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Good to know, Googo. I have done better at Amazon than at Manila Bay Cafe but both are good if one is not too choosy. I like that they are open 24/7 because my flight arrives at 4 - 5 AM so by 6:30 AM I am already banging some sweet young thing. Where else in the world can you pick up a freelancer at that time? Huts?

[QUOTE=Googol224;1868233]J
Highly recommended![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Googol224;1868233]Just got back from my annual Manila / Ermita visit. As usual, I spent my time between LA Cafe (formerly known as Manila Bay Cafe) and Amazonia Bar with a little side-mongering for SW.

LA has gotten a bad rap in recent years, but I find it's still a nice place that's usually packed to the gills with girls. Not as pretty as those you will find in the KTVs or in EDSA, but plentiful and (very) eager to please. I don't usually care only about looks. Don't get me wrong. Plenty of hotties in LA as well, but just a broader spectrum.

I usually take a beer and then pick a girl to ask over to talk to. If you invite them for a beer (95 to 150 pesos) they are more than happy to spend time with you. What's their alternative? Sitting on a chair and looking around? If you spend some time talking to the girls and are nice to them they will gladly go with you. Usually I pay 2 k for LT and 1200 for ST...[/QUOTE]This is a great report as I had heard these places where closed. When I was in Manila a couple of months back I had some great experiences pulling girls from Amazon and was staying in the New World Marina Hotel so it was a close walk there.

Hey Surfer,

I can definitely confirm that both places are still open and fully operational. Just texted with one of my "friends" there today and she was definitely "working".

Enjoy all & be nice to the girls!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1868407]This is a great report as I had heard these places where closed. When I was in Manila a couple of months back I had some great experiences pulling girls from Amazon and was staying in the New World Marina Hotel so it was a close walk there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;1868380]Good to know, Googo. I have done better at Amazon than at Manila Bay Cafe but both are good if one is not too choosy. I like that they are open 24/7 because my flight arrives at 4 - 5 AM so by 6:30 AM I am already banging some sweet young thing. Where else in the world can you pick up a freelancer at that time? Huts?

.[/QUOTE]At 6:30 am? The only place is LA Cafe. The times I've been there at sunrise most of the girls without a customer leave to sleep. From sunrise to 11 or so there are 20-30 girls there, and thereafter more start showing up. A weekend afternoon is a great time there; plenty of people but not overcrowded, and the girls aren't yet burnt out from sitting around for 14 hours.

Amazonia is often a ghost town. When walking from G Point to LA it's on my route so I peek in and there are a handful of girls. I don't know how that place stays in business. Good money in sad endings? G Point is only good at night.

There are few other places like the Southern Cross and Hussy's that attract freelancers. Usually dismal ones.

I prefer the dating sites because you can often find a call centre girl whose shift finishes in the morning or a student.

Well maybe I just got lucky then but I've been in Amazonia that early and vavoom we went to the room. LA Cafe tends to be kind of noisy and smokey especially at night so I prefer the peace and quiet of the Amazon although I've had as high as a 7 at both places and many fond memories. Yes, good idea to call a call center girl, too, whenever her shift ends. They are usually looking to supplement their income like most Filipinas. Regards.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1868568]At 6:30 am? The only place is LA Cafe.
I prefer the dating sites because you can often find a call centre girl whose shift finishes in the morning or a student.[/QUOTE].

Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?

[QUOTE=DCups;1868769]Well maybe I just got lucky then but I've been in Amazonia that early and vavoom we went to the room. LA Cafe tends to be kind of noisy and smokey especially at night so I prefer the peace and quiet of the Amazon although I've had as high as a 7 at both places and many fond memories. Yes, good idea to call a call center girl, too, whenever her shift ends. They are usually looking to supplement their income like most Filipinas. Regards..[/QUOTE]

JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

Night 1 - had brief look around, settled on Firehouse, place was deserted, me and another punter. Settled with drink to take in scenery and selection. Girls bored & trying to look interested. Spied 4 possibles. Chose one at back cute 21 why old slim.

20 min BS discussion. Where you from, how long you stay, where you stay etc. Time for negotiation- asked how much ST? She said up to you. I said no you tell me. Said have to consult mamasan. I said no I'm asking you. Went to & fro. Told me this was her second night, not barfined before etc etc.

Finally I said ok good 2000 BF 2000 you. She said ok. I was thinking ok if no good at least its discounted. Discussed everything (well I thought). Took ages talking to mamasan before we left. Maybe she was a newbie? Taxi mafia outside- FO- walked up a little got correct fare back.

Shower all good, full GFE, DFK, BBBJ, covered up and did the deed. Was tight but pounded away for awhile. Very wet, suddenly she gets up and says sorry. Turn on lights. Well lets say sheets weren't creamy white anymore. She keeps apologizing I just say F, F, lucky I was covered up.

I give her the 2000 she asks for taxi money. I say yeah right after I pay for new sheet and mattress protector. Bye.

Overall impression: yeah great start.

Night 2 - Not to be discouraged returned to EDSA. First of all went to Firehouse told Mamasan what happened. Told her I wasn't happy. Typical reaction. Not interested.

Spent next 15 minutes doing the rounds. Prob saw every club. Witnessed the jap phenomenon of walk in. Choose girl. Pay barfine. Walk out. Girls flock to Asians. 333.

MHO best bar. Cotton Club. Best selection and best atmosphere. Settled here. Got some recommendations from Mamasan. Took more time this time.

Chose 26 why old cute spinner. BFine 2000 plus 2,500 tip. Discussed everything and after last night I mean everything.

GFE (sort off) bit mechnical, BBBJ, Covered FS, fair but not great.

My impressions of EDSA. Compared to other places expensive for quality of service. Bit hit & miss. Would I partake from EDSA again. Prob not better options elsewhere but YVMD.

Nice report. Your message includes "why old". This is probably the intrusive auto correct that is in place. What did you mean? Curious minds want to know!

[QUOTE=NewImage;1869654]JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

Night 1 - had brief look around, settled on Firehouse SNIP but YVMD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Googol224;1868808]Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?[/QUOTE]My approach to working the angle:

Dating sites.

Coffee shop adjacent to any large Makati building.

One thing to consider with dating office workers, you do need to be available to their hours, they can't party like bargirls and they like sex just a much.

Enjoy.

BD.

Anyone having problems accessing [URL]pinalove.com[/URL]? I'm getting 502 Bad Gateway error.

Has been like this since yesterday (for me).

BD.

[QUOTE=Googol224;1868808]Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?[/QUOTE]Here I must say I have quite some experience as Callcenter-, office- and studentgirls are my prime objects for my escapades in Makati. BD has given you some headsup which are correct. To elaborate I use only FB but the same rule apply here as in datingsites. My trick is to have a VERY large pale / stock of girls to pick from so I can put girls into my scheduel and by this rotate them girls into having 3 to 5 girls a day during my stays in Makati. Having many to choose from gives me the advantage as they work different hours and they have different days off. Mybe ex the regular real officeworker as they seem to be stucked in their chair somewhere in a Makati highrise from 8/9 am to 4/5/6 pm. Callcentergirls have longer shifts (mostly) and work either dayshift (incl afternoon early eve) or nightshift and then they have a day or more off before they rotate to oposite workingtime. A few of them work for businesses deviding the day in 3 (day-, afternoon- and nightshifts). For student girls some of them are, like the regular officeworker, busy during daytime. But also here we have various hours they do study. Some study during day and others start classes in afternoon (from noon and towards early eve).

Seems chaotic? Yes, it can be. You need to work out your own system on how to keep track of each girls scheduel. I ask many questions in the beginning when I start hitting up a girl and I do have a designated scrapbook where I load in all info (by pen as I like it the old fashion way) and by this I can create my daily scheduel in an calmed environment and give the girls info when they are schedueled to come. All girls go through the same questioning/interview so it add some sense into it all. I am only interested in the girls able to answer more than one qustion at the time anyway so this also functioning as a screening method i am happy i found. This is how I do it and others MO might vary from mine but I think I, by now, can say my method works.

It works sometimes to good so I have to ditch screened and good to go girls. I try in some ways to keep them warm but continuious communication with girls are not my idea of fun time. And when next trip closing in i have found others and better gems anyway so it is basically waste of valuable time trying to keep them warm(in my book). I mostly communicate girls maybe a small week prior to my arrival as a general rule. Actually I have narrowed it down to mostly a 3 to 4 days by now as I have become more efficient in sweettalking them girls. Hitting on the girls earlier than this creates only a lot of jibber jabber and empty talks which also is timeconsuming. The girls appreciate that initial contact and actual meet takes place within a very short period of time. Hope this helps a tad. Even if i do it the old fashion way its still some sort of science:-)

[QUOTE=NewImage;1869654]JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

SNIP

My impressions of EDSA. Compared to other places expensive for quality of service. Bit hit & miss. Would I partake from EDSA again. Prob not better options elsewhere but YVMD.[/QUOTE]Good reports, keep them coming. As for finding EDSA expensive, wait till you get to Burgos. Also, if my memory serves me right the barfine in EDSA is 1950 P. Probably rounding off error?

This fora is not the worst but I want to adress some concerns by fellow mongerers;.

Do you by heart think that giving the sweetheart dinner and on occationally 0. 5 k to 1. 5 k in aftermath is enough? Some of you guys are cheap / kuripot and the girls can not provide their life from this small ammount. I give by now 3 to 5/6 k php for each girl I encounter and they are even not in realy need from it. It should have been more like girls from the lower tire getting 5/6 k php and girls from higher tier getting 0,5 to 1 k.

We can allways evalutae that I only had fucked her once and for a session 1 HR or a bit more 1,5 could be adjusted to enough. I think some of you (u know who you are) exploit the girls and due to their shyness you can ride your big horse and think you did her a favor. Be generous is my campaign, FL or regualr girls. Girls can not provide family with the best of your dick. If you consider urself the best lover and by fucking you she's got all she deserves. Give a gift.

[QUOTE=DonaldSucks;1872283]This fora is not the worst but I want to adress some concerns by fellow mongerers;.

Do you by heart think that giving the sweetheart dinner and on occationally 0. 5 k to 1. 5 k in aftermath is enough? Some of you guys are cheap / kuripot and the girls can not provide their life from this small ammount. I give by now 3 to 5/6 k php for each girl I encounter and they are even not in realy need from it. It should have been more like girls from the lower tire getting 5/6 k php and girls from higher tier getting 0,5 to 1 k.

We can allways evalutae that I only had fucked her once and for a session 1 HR or a bit more 1,5 could be adjusted to enough. I think some of you (u know who you are) exploit the girls and due to their shyness you can ride your big horse and think you did her a favor. Be generous is my campaign, FL or regualr girls. Girls can not provide family with the best of your dick. If you consider urself the best lover and by fucking you she's got all she deserves. Give a gift.[/QUOTE]I pay fairly. I had some FLs I met through a NY friend who took the meal deal over board (6 meals total). All mongers cannot afford to overcompensate or the expats that live here full time may have to cut out some sessions a month to compensate. Filipinos will take advantage of you. When I first arrived I was over tipping for 10 weeks until I ran across a Phil website. I noticed older white males tipping only 5 and 10 pisos. I asked my expat friend who has 40 years of experience here and he coached me on the market rate. It's best to stay at market rate for the brotherhood or you drive up prices for the next fellow. At first I had to make sure a pinay didn't hack your account like Tunsil the NFL draft pick (MIA). Beware fellows because those extra pisos Donald gives goes into their young / handsome Filipino boyfriends' pocket. Their boyfriends' enjoy going to the finest restaurants on your dime. Must be nice earning 3 days salary for a hour of labor. Most of these women do not respect 75% of foreigners. A lot of the drink sluts do well since they are in position to decline 10+% of barfine propositions. For mongers that got sure go for it. But that does not mean she will like the guy who paid her double her rates more than the guy who shagged for free or jollibees.

[QUOTE=XMan;1869697]Nice report. Your message includes "why old". This is probably the intrusive auto correct that is in place. What did you mean? Curious minds want to know![/QUOTE]Suppose to be 26 year old.