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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694389]To the list, I would add.

The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.

Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.

There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.

A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.

A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.

A flashlight.

The taser in the flashlight.

Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).

I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.

Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.

If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.[/QUOTE]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.

With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.

A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.[/QUOTE]

There's a map from the economist. It has a section titled the location of favelas.

There are 3 enlargements.

Copa, which is in the middle of favelas, where most mongers, including Senor Anaggie stay. It's right there in your reports.

Centro / 4 x 4, in the middle of favelas.

Barra the Tijuca, which is not in favelas, in fact is the only area in Rio outside of the favelas.

[URL]https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/08/14/rio-de-janeiro-asks-why-its-cops-kill-so-many-black-people[/URL]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the choice of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP...[/QUOTE]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.

How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694531]With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.

A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.[/QUOTE]Let's just get the math worked out.

3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.

The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.

So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.

Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.

Live and let live. My man.

I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2694606]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.

How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Maybe I am not making the right comparison. I am sure they all have started from the bottom but they have become more cultured and classy. I just don't see that in the Rio boates. It is the same quality year in year out. In fact, I feel it has gotten worse lately. I now use rio as a place to blow the first pent up load and then use SP to truly enjoy the women. Plus, I need to maintain my relationship with my agent and he likes taking me to 4 X4 so there is that.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694646]I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own..[/QUOTE]Very good advice when it comes to mongering, or anything else for that matter.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694646]Let's just get the math worked out.

3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.

The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.

So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.

Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.

Live and let live. My man.

I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".[/QUOTE]Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜

[QUOTE=Lonster;2694363]Hey Stinky
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.

I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.[/QUOTE]I would not expetct any of them to be there, but rather just go and see what lineup they have. I just did a mass contact campaign to dozens of these and the first challenge is getting them to respond at all. Especially today on Mother's day. Brazilians take their Foobar day very seriously. I remember when I first set foot on Brazil it was mother's day and I struggled to get anyone to come and it wasn't good. My 12 year Brazil anniversary, need to accomplish something special today. So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.

I have one night here, tonight, Mother's Day.

Meeting my main babe for drinks near Baixa Augusta around 9 pm, then going to give Casarão another shot, probably getting there around 11. If any mongers are around, let's kickit'.

I am a 50 something gringo, 6' tall, will be wearing jeans, nice collared shirt with a dark blue jacket.

Don't plan on banging a chick there tonight, just a night cap to scope for future mongering.

Lonnie.

The next time you're in Rio.

Take your agent to.

[URL]Massagemtijuca.com.br[/URL]

Next to Maracana stadium.

Perola negra.

Ave de pepe 400.

Mosaico after midnight.

Praca bandeira.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694668]Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜[/QUOTE]

While you're all going gaga over Rio and being scared of shit in Sampa, I managed to get on the agenda of the famous Isis in the Discovery Hotel, Santana. Getting an appointment with that garota is like teeth pulling, only Neca Santos is more difficult. But now that I did it for you, I saved you the effort, because in my view this is totally not worth it. I, being a deepthroat fanatic had to check this off my list, but I am now relieved that it's done and I don't have to struggle about getting an appointment with her ever again! The problem with that girl is that she regards her service as a technique which she administers like surgery. There is none of that interaction that's part of a deepthroat program, she won't even let you touch her head, and you think going to a specialist spares you complaints? Think again! The only thing good about her is she's cheap. Getting serviced by a cheap girl has a special meaning to it, so I could still sort of enjoy and not get hung up on the disappointed. But man, my time with my pornstarlet friend GiPaes remains in my memory. She was expensive, but worth it. And it's not that you get what you pay for, no, but there are just different kinds of girls. And then the Mineiras are so friendly. If you go on GiPaes' onlyfans you can even see some video "production" that we did, that comes out of my sick mind. Haha. So now you know who not to run after and who you might want to try and catch a session with before she moves away to the UK. It's like with Kelly Oliveira, missed her by about a year and now that gal is in Berlin taking 1000 euros for the session. But boy, what a loss not having known her whenshe was still in RJ! Now I have one final todo item on my check list, and that's Neca Santos. I already told her I will have to give her a spanking if ever I actually get to meet her, just for the way she gave me a hard time. But after today with Isis, I can also rest relaxed that often all those imaginations are not what's really in store anyway when it's your turn in the waiting list, if only there was a waiting list! Getting a ride with Neca Santos is harder than buying a confirmed train ticket in India.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/o-melhor-oral-da-sua-vida-isis-garganta-profunda-id-8hy7e[/URL]

As of date, does Brazil and the US still require negative test when bording flights? Thanks.

"Class" is a broad term. Could be "socio-economic" class. "educated" class. "character" class. Etc etc. For me character is the most important.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2694606]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.

How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694671]I So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.[/QUOTE]Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.

Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.