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[QUOTE=Woodman09;2926010]So Will The scumbag Newsome be the replacement?? Or Kamala?[/QUOTE]Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.

Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.

I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2926010]So Will The scumbag Newsome be the replacement?? Or Kamala?[/QUOTE]Woodman, I honestly thought Biden was not that bad. Thing is I have seen him so much worse than this. , but much of America had not. Well, last night, they did. Thing is the whole bird brained idea of debating Trump was Biden's decision, and I am sure he could not be talked out of it.

To me, the most telling story came when it came to Trump and his golf game. You can catch videos of him playing, and he is really good. Sportswriter Rick Reilly caddied for Trump and wrote about it in a book Who is your Caddy? Reilly talked about Trump using his "useful hyperbole" AKA being the bullshit artist Trump can be. Trump even told Reilly that Reilly would be sick of him after a few days, and Reilly was. LOL. Thing is Reilly also practically pleaded with people not to just buy into the bullshit and reject Trump but listed all of the things Trump had accomplished in his life including being a great golfer. In other words, buried in that bullshit is some really great stuff.

I expected the lying about the economy and the exaggeration / lying from both of them. When it came to the golf thing and Biden said he had a 6 and then 8 handicap, you could see Trump rolling his eyes. He even said it was Biden's worst lie of the night, and to me, it was the most insightful. It was like a 5 year old lying, and Trump told Biden, "Let's not act like children. " This was an exchange of a rational human being and a man who belonged in assisted living filled with delusion. The question was about physical fitness for office, and Biden absolutely lied his ass off when it came to being fit.

So Biden may be demented, but he is a demented bully, and there is no way in hell he is getting out. He still thinks he can beat Trump. He probably thinks he won the debate, and anybody who tries to take him out is going to have an FBI investigation or IRS tax audit.

If Biden tried to tee off, I swear he would miss the ball. At best, he would hit it 4 yards. I do not think he is even physically capable of raising s club above his head. But you know if he tried it and made an ass of himself, he would be yelling at people looking for something or someone to blame.

So you have the idiotic open border policy and its attempt to bring in illegals to vote for him being put up in luxury hotels. You have the stupid notion of criminally prosecuting your opposition, and now you had the incredibly idiotic idea of debating Trump. Well, that is your guy Dems. And guess what? You are fucking stuck with him because he ain't going anywhere.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2926075]Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.

Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.

I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.[/QUOTE]Remember that Obama lost his first debate against Romney too but came back to win. What goes down in a debate does not dictate the outcome of an election. It's one of many pieces. I have no doubt that Biden will do much better in September. But again, at the end of the day, I don't think most minds are going to be swayed either way. It's just not a good match up, and I wish there were better choices on both sides. But, it is what it is, and people are going to vote along party lines. It's going to be close, and I say whoever wins Pennsylvania (I have Biden), Wisconsin (I have Biden) [B]and[/B] Michigan (too close to call) takes the election.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2926075]Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.

Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.

I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.[/QUOTE]For anyone interested in substance in a debate, right off the top of my head, this is what I heard in those 90 minutes:

1. Biden will veto any ChristoFacist Repub attempt to outlaw Sex For Pleasure / a National Abortion Ban.

2. Biden will work to make Roe v Wade the law of the land.

3. Biden will raise taxes slightly on the wealthy (likely on greater then $400,000 in taxable income) to keep Social Security solvent for decades with no other changes necessary.

4. Biden will again reduce child / family poverty by extending the Child Tax Credit.

5. Biden will veto any attempt to abolish the Affordable Care Act.

6. Biden will continue to cut costs for many necessary, life-saving drugs.

7. Trump will do none of the above.

8. Trump told 1-2 lies in virtually every sentence he uttered.

9. Trump had to he chased around the horn by the moderators, repeatedly asking the same question for him to at least say something remotely related to the question asked.

10. Trump did not reveal this, Biden did, but Trump plans to raise taxes on everyone in America by slapping tariffs on practically everything.

11. Trump apparently does not know what a tariff is or who pays them. He still thinks China paid his tariffs.

12. Sixteen Nobel Prize Economists have explained that Trump plan will most assuredly trigger a huge Repub Recession and spike up inflation beyond his own Trump's Pandemic Inflation.

13. Trump mentioned no other plan if he gets a second term.

You think only 33% saying Biden won is bad?

[B]Majority of debate watchers say Trump won debate over Biden: CNN Poll.
June 28, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/majority-of-debate-watchers-say-trump-won-debate-over-biden-cnn-poll-124062800222_1.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]
Sixty-seven per cent to [b]33 per cent[/b] of the registered debate watchers said that Trump turned in a better performance, according to a CNN flash poll conducted by SSRS.[/QUOTE]How about this?

[B]Romneys Strong Debate Performance Erases Obamas Lead.
GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas.
Oct. 8, 2012[/B]

[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Fully 66% of registered voters say Romney did the better job in last Wednesdays debate, compared with just [b]20%[/b] who say Obama did better.[/QUOTE]And, of course, Obama went on to win re-election over Romney.

Was there Dem panic back in Oct. 2012? Yep.

Oh, and Romney wasn't a 34 time felon convicted of conspiracy to commit Election Fraud in order to steal a presidential election, found liable for rape, did not incite a violent mob of cop-killing Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol, stalk top elected officials for their public execution, overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy and so on while he sat on his butt and did nothing except enjoy the show for 3+ hours and did not lie 1-2 times in every sentence he uttered at that debate.

Perhaps typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will take a moment or two someday to recall that.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2926021]That's right, she won't need $100, [b]she'll need $10K[/b] [i](according to the article, [b]here:[/b] [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-costs-roe-v-wade-out-of-state-supreme-court-2022-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T[/URL])[/i] , especially if (God forbid) she has complications or miscarriages in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, in a red state.

Here's is a list of other "planned" pregnancy complications, Elvis 2008 and "Economic Pussy Sidekick Chick", might want to "plan" for:

Amniotic Fluid Complications
Bleeding
Ectopic Pregnancy
Placental Complications
Fetal Loss (or Miscarriage)
Preeclampsia or Eclampsia

Just hope she can find a good OBGYN (or competent doctor), in a red state, when the time comes. Cause the good ones are getting the fuck outta Dodge![/QUOTE]And here you go again. You know NOTHING about medicine. First off, you have lied and lost on abortion. Second, you make this completely idiotic comment that Obs are all Democratic loving douches like yourself.

Quite frankly, the OB field is filled with losers who could not get into orthopedics, men who want to control women at their most vulnerable, and female lesbians looking to score. Thank God they are in that field because women in Africa somehow make it by with childbirth and unlike orthopedists who often are operating on seniors, OB / Gyns are operating on young women and have a large margin for error because their patients are so healthy. They have a reputation for being the WORST surgeons there are.

And with regards to medicine and not surgery, their training is pure shit. They do little if any training in intensive medicine. They are not medicine people but surgeons and their prescribing habits, which are often horrible, reflect that. Again, because their patients are so healthy they get away with prescribing stupidly.

The exceptions to the rule are the positive doctors who look at being an OB as bringing life into the world. They thrive on the joy of child birth and are usually very religious. They often are prominent members in their church and are known and loved within their communities. And this may shock you, but these doctors fucking HATE abortion. They do not do it and do not want to. But if a member of their congregation has an incomplete miscarriage they would not treat it? Are you out of your fucking mind?

And then your is your idiotic contention that right wing religious groups do not want good prenatal care and IVF? Again, you are out of your fucking mind.

Lastly, the doctors making a living on abortion are by and large the biggest scumbags in medicine. Yeah, doing abortions may be legal but it does not means those doctors are respected. And those are the people you are insisting on being good doctors? Again, you know nothing. You just parade around pretending to be prowoman while mirroring feminazi talking points.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2926049]Both candidates were absolutely awful and petty, even arguing over their golf handicaps! Really? Trump dodged question after question and told lie after lie after lie! And Biden was low energy with a hoarse voice and often unable to keep his train of thought. They said he had a bad cold (after the fact), and I'll give him that, but definitely not a good look. Both candidates sucked, and it's hard for me to say that anybody "won".[/QUOTE]LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".

It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".

[QUOTE=TheCane;2926049]At the end of the day, for me like most people, it's not going to make a difference. I'm a Democrat. I vote for Democratic candidates.[/QUOTE]IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2926049]Joe Biden may belong in an old folks home, but Chump belongs in jail making him (and his not ready for prime time players) the far worse choice in my mind. Biden can stand up there and drool for all I care. [B]Never Trump[/B]![/QUOTE]This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.

Biden is up 1 point in this poll vs his pre debate rating in it.

I get this is what 60% "want". But even if they don't get that, there is no indication (yet) that they will not still vote for him over Trump.

[B]60% of voters want Biden replaced as candidate after debate, poll says.[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/06/29/biden-democrat-candidate-replacement-poll[/URL]

[QUOTE]When the survey asked respondents to choose between Biden and former President Trump, [b]45% chose the president and 44% chose the former commander-in-chief.[/b]

The results were similar to those from a poll following Trump's criminal conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records linked to a $130,000 hush money payment.
[B]That shows "President Joe Biden has lost no immediate ground to Trump," per Morning Consult's findings.[/b][/QUOTE]Oh, Fun Fact: it turns out not many people watched that debate:

[B]TV Ratings: Biden-Trump Debate Draws 51M Viewers, Way Below 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/biden-trump-first-2024-debate-tv-ratings-1235934892/[/URL]

And it is likely very few of them were undecideds anyway since they are not known to be so into politics that they bother to watch debates.

Sure, if they didn't watch even a minute of the debate, they will certainly be exposed to plenty of sound bite ads taken from that debate.

And on that point, I could easily identify a dozen sound bites from that debate of Biden touting a planned policy for his 2nd term that would be very popular with voters.

I can not recall even one from Trump.

However, there are many, many easy sound bite lifts from that debate of Trump proclaiming that "America SUCKS"!

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2926116]LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".

It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".

IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.

This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.[/QUOTE]I assure you neither the authoritarian system in Russia nor the authoritarian system in China have the least bit of affinity with an American who intelligently chooses to only vote for candidates from the one Party that has produced the best results in America and none of the Great Repub Disasters rather than any person willing to vote for a member of the Party that has led directly to every Great American Economic Disaster of the past 100 years AND the corrupt justices bent on eliminating American freedom and rights instead of protecting and expanding them.

You do know that the very countries' evil systems you cited are not now and never have helped Biden or the Dem Party win elections but do actively hack, spin and help Trump and the Repub Party, right?

If, as you appear to be saying, you really are against what evil Russia and evil China want to spread around the globe you too would never vote for THEIR beloved Repub Party candidates and only vote for Dems.

That's right. I have actually done more to prevent the spread of Russia / China-style authoritarian rule in America all the way here in Thailand with my mail-in ballots than you have with any vote for any Repub at any time and especially for Donald Trump in your home town in America.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2926116]LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".

It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".

IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.

This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/opinion/biden-election-debate-trump.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2926116]LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".

It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".

IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.

This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.[/QUOTE]No, you see I make up my own mind. The New York Times, FOX News or whatever doesn't tell me what to do. And can you read and comprehend? I do vote for my candidate [B]plus[/B] the people that I expect they will bring along with them as a part of their administration. And talk about being blind. It's a [B]two party system[/B] that we have and I don't do anything in it that you don't. And that's vote for which of the two parties that routinely best represents me and my interests. That's no doubt the Democratic Party and not the Repukeian party.

So you go ahead and vote for your unqualified, dictatorial but mentally competent incompetent felon and "all the best people" he would bring with him. And I'm going to vote for the one whose people stand for democracy, the rule of law, and the peaceful transfer of power. Touche douche! Four more years of Democratic rule over cowardly, morally bankrupt, tyrannical Repukeians who've proven they can't govern and who won't stop at denying women the right to choose.

You see, now they want to make the Bible the centerpiece of education in America too violating yet another foundation of this country's basic founding. That would be the separation of church and state. We may as well be living in some corrupt theocracy like Afghanistan or Iran! The only ones with Trump Derangement Syndrome are dolts just like you who would jump off a cliff for Chump if he asked you too. Just like the followers of other crooks like Hitler or Tojo. Trump says himself he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and ignorant sheep followers like you wouldn't care. And he knows it and says it out loud. You're too ignorant to realize he's not looking out for you. He's out for himself, and that's not who or what the world needs as the leader of the free world. A "mentality competent" piece of shit. Touche douche! Touche!

Biden may be not long ready for the old folks home. But Trump and his January 6th hooligans belong in jail! For me the right choice is clear in the reality of the two-party system we have. Papa Joe and his peeps who would preserve our democracy over Felonious Chump and his blind, ignorant, law breaking sheep!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2926116]The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down.[/QUOTE]Since when did right-wing, knuckle dragging, cro magnon, Rupukeians start citing the New York times as a source of credible news? As the man would say, what a pile of hypocritical, stinky "mularkey"! Papa Joe isn't going anywhere! And he's going to whup Felonious Chump's fat, lying ass one more time. Watch, wait, and see.

The problem isn't that Biden isn't the man he was four years ago. People like Elvis don't give a shit about that! They didn't like him four years ago, they don't like him now, and they will never like him. No, the problem is that Felonious Chump [B]is[/B] the same asshole [B]he[/B] was four years ago. Unqualified, incompetent, amoral, and dictatorial. In other words, nothing has changed about Chump, leaving him unfit for office. Therefore, the only real choice in our two-party system is to go with the other camp. That's what I and millions and millions and millions of other Americans will be doing. Democracy itself is at stake. Felonious Chump and the rest of the Repukeians must be stopped again from ruining America! Four more years of Democratic rule!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2926110]You think only 33% saying Biden won is bad?

[B]Majority of debate watchers say Trump won debate over Biden: CNN Poll.
June 28, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/majority-of-debate-watchers-say-trump-won-debate-over-biden-cnn-poll-124062800222_1.html[/URL]

How about this?

[B]Romneys Strong Debate Performance Erases Obamas Lead.
GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas.
Oct. 8, 2012[/B]

[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/[/URL]

And, of course, Obama went on to win re-election over Romney. Was there Dem panic back in Oct. 2012? Yep.[/QUOTE]I think if they took a poll again, it would be 90% for Trump. People tend to go along with a crowd. I was used to Biden being so out of it so it did not bug me much seeing him. He even made a good point or two, but the media has been showing his gaffes and distorted facial expressions nonstop.

And I do not know what you are talking about with regards to panic and Romney v Obama. Romney and Dole were probably the two worst Republican candidates in 50 years. Any poll putting Romney over Obama had huge flaws, and no one was talking about Obama being replaced or Obama being mentally incompetent.

The thing about the debate and the people who thought Biden won were fools like you. You have been going on with your Thanks, Joe nonsense and not seeing Biden for the bumbling shell of a man that much of the country has now seen with its own eyes. Be.

The most telling question was about mental and physical competence. Trump said he recently won two golf tournaments, and it demonstrates what we all know. Trump still has it mentally and physically. Golf is a challenging mental and physical game.

With Biden, he says he has a 6 handicap in golf. Then a second later, he says he had an 8 handicap when he was vice president after Trump says that was his worst lie of the night. Later on, that night, we see Jill Biden helping Joe down the stairs. That video was not supposed to be shot, and we see her talking to her husband like a kindergartener, "Oh, Joe, you answered all those questions. ".

At this point, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is mentally and physically fit to be president is fucking nuts.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2926110]Perhaps typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will take a moment or two someday to recall that.[/QUOTE]LOL. The Republican media is not reporting anything new. They are doing a round of we told you so. This is a hilarious bit on Gutfield scolding the media for lying about Biden: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0-atnrWZE[/URL].

What is funny is with the liberal media we are seeing the same thing as we did with Covid. They are playing the "never mind, we never said that" game with Biden's incompetence. Just like they never advocated for school closings, social distancing, or hawking ineffective vaccines, now the deep state has told the media criticizing Biden's mental incompetence is okay. The NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, and Politico have completely flipped their script yet again. The more honest members of the liberal media like Bill Maher have been screaming about Biden's incompetence for months.

MSNBC's Morning Joe was the target in this video showing the hypocrisy of the liberal media but it could have been any of the liberal press. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URo8ntbyQ6o[/URL].

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2926110]Oh, and Romney wasn't a 34 time felon convicted of conspiracy to commit Election Fraud in order to steal a presidential election, found liable for rape, did not incite a violent mob of cop-killing Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol, stalk top elected officials for their public execution, overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy and so on while he sat on his butt and did nothing except enjoy the show for 3+ hours and did not lie 1-2 times in every sentence he uttered at that debate.[/QUOTE]Well, even that is a positive now. That Biden was not charged criminally for having top secret documents in his home does not mean Biden is not a criminal. The reason given to not prosecute Biden was he was not mentally competent to stand trial and anyone who saw the debate knows that to be true.

So no one is voting FOR Biden anymore including you. If you cannot see that you are blind. You are voting against Trump and for a deep state cabal. Biden's body may still be functioning somewhat but his mind is gone.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2926269]People tend to go along with a crowd. So no one is voting FOR Biden anymore including you. If you cannot see that you are blind.[/QUOTE]Is that right? So, I guess it's OK if they go along with a crowd that you like. But if it's a crowd of Democrats, then that's just people who don't think for themselves and are acting like sheep pushing for a one-party system right? You're so full of it you reek bro! And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land. Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.