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[QUOTE=KindAn;2913531]Sad to see articles like this. Issue is, it can happen anywhere in Bogota. I always keep a burner with me, and some money, but still. Any idea if crime is going up, or if it's stagnant over the last few years??[/QUOTE]Rule of thumb, always keep valuables out of view in any country that you visit. I was robbed in Frankfurt, Germany (not violently) because I got careless.
That is one of the best upscale neighborhoods in Bogota.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2913465]A US citizen was the latest victim of insecurity in Bogot. As confirmed by the Metropolitan Police, the foreigner was the target of a violent robbery in the north of the capital. As indicated by the authorities, the incident occurred on 116th Street and 17th Street, in the town of Usaquand.
The report of what happened shows that the authorities were alerted after it was known that the man was asking for help in the middle of a public street. According to the victim's story, at least three criminals approached him, threatened him, stole his cell phone and attacked him with a knife on his chest.
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/estadounidense-gravemente-herido-tras-robo-en-el-norte-de-bogota-3340228[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2913813]That is one of the best upscale neighborhoods in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Robberies are happening everywhere. Thieves in scooters or small bikes are mugging people in all kinds of neighborhoods. And the president yesterday told the police once again not to harass the youth. Insane. This won't get any better until a right-wing president wins and put things in order.
Arrived at the airport and was out of immigration in 15 minutes. No checkMig or any questions.
Stayed at Airbnb near chapinero that had few restrictions but internet was good. I didn't bring chicas to apartment.
Santa Fe: went on Thursday night and it was good crowd. I forgot whether I saw good girls in Venus or Troya. Didn't do any activity on Thursday.
Friday: Behind Monte Rey restaurant on calle 65 (I think so) there were about 5 to 8 houses that had chicas. Like bar and girls will introduce themselves. Took one girl about 22 years for 50. Mil. (30 mins.) she did a good job but didn't knew she had milk (baby). Tried other places in the area all the way up to one street where there love motels.
In one bar mature Venezuela girl was asking me to add her to WhatsApp for virtual service that she wanted to provide while she was not working at the club. I didn't entertain her.
Tantra: this place always delivers but don't know why rooms are crazy small. Plus they always some local dudes sitting all time on sofa. The girl took 50 mil for 30 minutes and performed well.
MileErotics: went to meet a girl near Fontibon but it was utter flop. Her room, the motel everything was bad.
Another MileErotics girl near Chapinero (around cr 60) did good for 120 mil for an hour.
Davivienda: I didn't withdraw at airport but around cr 65 where I was not charged any transaction fee and I declined their conversion. My bank charged me. $267 for 1020000 mil.
This is the first time I withdraw from ATM and I was surprised most ATM machine around chapinero were. Closed. Night. Time.
Food: I ate mostly local food and empanadas and absolutely no fast food.
Used Indrive for in & out of airport and was around 15 mil each time.
Weather: sometimes rainy. Rain jacket recommended but definitely not winter jacket.
I flew to Cali from Bogota.
Long time listener, first time caller.
I've read back about 200 pages of the forum and so far it seems most folks recommend the agencies like lacelestina, eroticasbogota, but there are a handful of successful reports from photoprepagos, passionprepagos, and even mileroticos and prepagos. I'm curious about everyone's mileage with the latter. Is is mostly bait and switch? Awesome independents? Or just a total crapshoot?
Thanks!
Frank.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2914608]Long time listener, first time caller.
I've read back about 200 pages of the forum and so far it seems most folks recommend the agencies like lacelestina, eroticasbogota, but there are a handful of successful reports from photoprepagos, passionprepagos, and even mileroticos and prepagos. I'm curious about everyone's mileage with the latter. Is is mostly bait and switch? Awesome independents? Or just a total crapshoot?
Thanks!
Frank.[/QUOTE]So I haven't had tons of problems using photoprepagos. But haven't used since 2022. I've been doing other things in Bogota + girlfriends after that.
So I mostly went to their location and only had like 1 bad experience where I paid for 1 hour and she was trying to get me out after 5 minutes. Other than that I've found sweethearts that were hotter in person. Affectionate. Gave me my money's worth and full time whether it was 30 minutes or 1 hours.
I did find a like 19 year old 6 or 7 month pregnant girl that was only traveling. I did my first love motel meeting and she was such a sweetheart. Amazingly sensual experience. Checked a big box.
But. This is all such a personal experience. I'm apparently good at and automatically ignoring the fake / Instagram model types.
I was paying 120 to 180 for an hour with bbj in 2022.
How long will you be here? If more than a week and your looking for chill college type girls and more gfe+, you might try seeking. It's freakn awesome in Bogota.
[QUOTE=ReachJM;2914584]Arrived at the airport and was out of immigration in 15 minutes. No checkMig or any questions.
Stayed at Airbnb near chapinero that had few restrictions but internet was good. I didn't bring chicas to apartment.
Santa Fe: went on Thursday night and it was good crowd. I forgot whether I saw good girls in Venus or Troya. Didn't do any activity on Thursday.
Friday: Behind Monte Rey restaurant on calle 65 (I think so) there were about 5 to 8 houses that had chicas. Like bar and girls will introduce themselves. Took one girl about 22 years for 50. Mil. (30 mins.) she did a good job but didn't knew she had milk (baby). Tried other places in the area all the way up to one street where there love motels.
In one bar mature Venezuela girl was asking me to add her to WhatsApp for virtual service that she wanted to provide while she was not working at the club. I didn't entertain her..[/QUOTE]Excellent Report brother. Glad to see you had a good time and thanks for the info on the chapinero area. I will be checking it chapinero next month when I am in Bogotá.
Also the Davivienda does charge a fee of 15 mil but it doesn't tell you, it is baked into the total amount that it charges to your card for the transaction.
Gabacho.
Anyone know the most current prices in the main SF brothels / clubs Fiebre Troya Pink Paisas.
Minimum / maximum estimates, also is it always mandatory to prepay before the servicio.
I like to avoid prepaid establishments at all costs, as should everyone.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;2914862]Anyone know the most current prices in the main SF brothels / clubs Fiebre Troya Pink Paisas.
Minimum / maximum estimates, also is it always mandatory to prepay before the servicio.
I like to avoid prepaid establishments at all costs, as should everyone.[/QUOTE]I haven't used the brothel part of one of the clubs recently. But a buddy was getting lap dances at Fiebre for 50 mil last week for I think 3 songs. Seemed like the same price from a year ago. I didn't partake. You didnt ask. But Chapinero casas are the same as a year ago. 50 mil for 30 minutes which includes the room. Tantra is still 50 mil for 30 minutes but you automatically get bbj.
Related to the "not pre-pay" - I have never had an issue with doing that with the santa fe clubs, santa fe street girls, and casas. They have to pay the room and / or the base fee. So I don't see a way around it or any point in trying to get around that. Extras I will occasionally hold back. But very rarely. I used to fuck a lot at Fiebre and just do not see away around pre-paying. Ive fucked probably 150+ santa fe / club/casa girls in the last 3 years. Only 1 issue 1 time with a photoprepagaro girl where I pre-paid.
At least in Bogota. Seeking / other grey area semi-pro its very rare to pre-pay. I had one girl once that was probably very or brand new. Met me at a motel, but told me ahead of time that she wanted the money first at the street. I had a great feeling about her and just thought she was nervous. So we agreed to half before we go into the motel, and half when we got inside. Still before the sex. Turned out I read the situation correctly and had one of the best experiences I ever had, she was just 18. And new. She told me that she was afraid that a guy would fuck and then not want to pay. And it really worried her. Paying her ahead of time removed that concern from her and had a wonderful time.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;2914862]Anyone know the most current prices in the main SF brothels / clubs Fiebre Troya Pink Paisas.
Minimum / maximum estimates, also is it always mandatory to prepay before the servicio.
I like to avoid prepaid establishments at all costs, as should everyone.[/QUOTE]In the SF clubs nowadays, a rato (15 min) is min 100 k. The hottest girl can ask 100 to 150 k. I don't fuck in the clubs anymore and I don't see a lot of people going upstairs. Too expensive. Most girls says they make more money doing shows.
I would advice street meat or chapinero casas 50 to 70 k min for 30 min or north spa 250 k for 60 min.
[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2914796]
How long will you be here? If more than a week and your looking for chill college type girls and more gfe+, you might try seeking. It's freakn awesome in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your fast and helpful reply!
I took a scroll through Seeking and the talent does seem pretty good. I think my ideal visit is just about a week long. Would this be long enough to meet a couple seeking girls and rotate through them? How much do you discuss pay-for-play ahead of time? Do you ask them what 'services' they provide? I'm in my 40's and chubby. Is this going to put a damper on this 'dating' style? I'm coming from just some dabbling in the Mexico City scene and that pretty much all escorts. I'm really curious about this wonderland that is Bogotas SA scene, strip club scene and the casas.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2915295]Thank you for your fast and helpful reply!
I took a scroll through Seeking and the talent does seem pretty good. I think my ideal visit is just about a week long. Would this be long enough to meet a couple seeking girls and rotate through them? How much do you discuss pay-for-play ahead of time? Do you ask them what 'services' they provide? I'm in my 40's and chubby. Is this going to put a damper on this 'dating' style? I'm coming from just some dabbling in the Mexico City scene and that pretty much all escorts. I'm really curious about this wonderland that is Bogotas SA scene, strip club scene and the casas.[/QUOTE]With minimal seeking experience and about 1 week here is what I would recommend.
1) definitely do an agency if your looking for a specific body type to sorta check that box. I would maybe do this the first night so you get the process down and so you can use it as a backup if a seeking situation that falls through.
2) try Tantra Spa and / the other day time casas in Chapinero for at least 1 or 2 days. I've found some gems and you get to see before you buy. So I recommend this to kinda hedge your bet.
3) read back in my post history. I've made a few posts about my strategies and some talk tracks. Now it's what worked for me. And I obviously don't know your style. But if you have the funds it's totally worth giving it a go. But if you put all your eggs in one basket you could end up disappointed.
But to summarize my experience. As long as you avoid Instagram models / highly photoshopped girls. You are generally going to have a good experience. Read my post history, but I had a category that we wouldn't talk money. Meet up for drinks (I am sure they would have said yes to dinner). And then we would go to a motel.
I'm not going to lie. Depending on your style and / or luck. Seeking might not work out and could lead to disappointment if you only focus on it.
One last thing that maybe some people might disagree. Because it was true. I was able to say that I will be visiting a lot and I am looking for someone that I have chemistry with to see often. I feel like that brought down some barriers based on the typical girl I was going after.
For your other questions - again, I think my post history might help. I never asked about services though. I often avoided sex and money talk. Unless they forced it - I would say " let's meet for drinks. And if we both feel comfortable we can go to a motel" or "take things from there". Sometimes they say no. Sometimes they ask how much. Sometimes they say "sip!" Which means yup. I generally found that once I got them in the room going down on them led to wonderful sexy time. If your into super super specific stuff and it's important then you could consider bringing stuff up
But I like go with the flow.
I would they have them meet maybe at a BBC during the day and have a love motel selected within walking distance. Motelnow is an app you can look for.
I haven't used seeking in like 16 months. I was often going with 200,000 for the girls that didn't ask about money. When they asked, it was between 200,000 to 300,000. Obviously some will ask for 500,000 or more. Obviously your call how you negotiate. For me it was a heck no for 400,000+.
Your looks generally won't matter. I was 220 lbs 5 11 . Maybe pushing 230. Wear clean cloths. You don't need to dress fancy. I would wear jeans, t-shirt, and kinda crappy shoes. But I was clean. If yu have body odor issues definitely take care of that. But Bogota is usually around 65 degrees during the day. And a bit cooler at night. So us guys that sweat a lot (not pointing fingers at you) can have an easier time staying presentable / smelling good.
One last thing that all depends on both your comfort level and game. But some of the girls I met were clearly on the down low. I had one 22 year old English teacher at a private school that was just amazing. But she didn't like to be seen out a lot and wanted to chill at my Airbnb and get rappi. Fuck. Watch movies / documentaries. I literally do not care if she just didn't want to be seen out with me. Or if it would be all men above 35.
So yeah - you kinda just got to try it. And see what works.
How to go about finding BBFS?
I've been through the wringer now and am a little bored if anything that isn't true GFE with BBFS. What's your best ways to find this with minimal risk? I know Tinder with a regular girl or Seeking with a semi-pro is probably the best bet for lowest risk of disease and all that but also I don't want to fool around too much with dating and going out. I actually hate going out, I just want to build a little bit of a rapport and get it over with.
[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2915726]How to go about finding BBFS?
I've been through the wringer now and am a little bored if anything that isn't true GFE with BBFS. What's your best ways to find this with minimal risk? I know Tinder with a regular girl or Seeking with a semi-pro is probably the best bet for lowest risk of disease and all that but also I don't want to fool around too much with dating and going out. I actually hate going out, I just want to build a little bit of a rapport and get it over with.[/QUOTE]It's super easy to get BBFS with the Chapinero casas girls. GFE though? Not exactly in my experience. But I'm also not typically trying for that / asking them to visit me. You could probably get one to start visiting you. But it requires finding her and getting a number.
Seeking, real girlfriend, building rapport with an agency girl seem like your options. Agency girl doesn't require leaving your place I guess.
[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2915885]It's super easy to get BBFS with the Chapinero casas girls. GFE though? Not exactly in my experience. But I'm also not typically trying for that / asking them to visit me. You could probably get one to start visiting you. But it requires finding her and getting a number.
Seeking, real girlfriend, building rapport with an agency girl seem like your options. Agency girl doesn't require leaving your place I guess.[/QUOTE]Hey Jack.
Are there a bunch of Chapinero Casas located in the same vecinity.
I've been to Tantra Spa and Bar which arent Casas.
But I have been to some casas near Tantra that I've been directed to after contacting milerotico ads and such.
I'm wondering if those locales change often or if I can go back and just ring the doorbell to see their lineup.
Or if they only take online Whattsapp reservations.
Guess the more ads I try the more locales I will find. But just in case there are a few lined up in the same few blocks for walking and perusing I had to ask. Thanks.
Also are seeking casas out in neighborhoods like Kennedy during the day somewhat safe. I know risk can't be eliminated fully but thought ID ask. Maybe Tesaquillo casas would be safer. Thanks.