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[QUOTE=Optimist;2374906]
I am interested in what prompts you to ask about this as it is not something I have discussed recently.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Have you read past 15 posts here? Cheers.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2374608]Don't you see? It is your inept ability to verbally distinguish one of your handles from the next, that reveals your true face. As your first paragraph here shows. ... .[/QUOTE]I dare you to name another handle you think I'm posting under. Because I'm not. Put up or shut up. Substantiate or apologize.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2374371] ... And we all know you are the multi nick user half the forum complains about.
[QUOTE=Ararat;2374821]I didn't. Could you tell me the other users? I don't post here a lot but see there's a conflict around here and would like to see who's on each side.

Thanks.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I don't know whether he actually believes what he is posting, but I only have one account on ISG. This one.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374627]Ok as we have degenerated to dick sizing I won't feel bad for going OT with an FR from NYC. You may recall I've been having great success with SA this side of the pond. Here was my top NA experience.

Of my three NY visits I surely must write this one up as my finest complete dating experience ever.

So Amy is a half Korean half Vietnamese and super cute. She studies art in NYC -- her senior year but is from LA. She has a true valley girl sort of free spirit about her, like everything in the world is new and amazing.

We really got lucky to go on a date together. Because I'd been surfing NYC for weeks and thought I was done. Then on the Friday before I find her. I accidentally overlooked her age range maxing out at 45 and sent her a ping and was surprised when she responded. But then we have instant chemistry and witty banter. It's interesting how this just totally works with some girls and you get mutually infatuated over the wire. It's really great.

At some point I casually threw in something about meeting and she was all over it. But she suggested coffee and possibly a later meet up. I told her I had to politely decline because I was too busy for two meetings (the truth) and I thought we were done. So she says she's not opposed to a single dinner meeting but she's new and how would that work.

This is actually good because I can explain how I agreed terms with other girls and this involves mentioning room time. So we get that elephant out of the room. And I suggest a range. With this loose framework we agree to meet...[/QUOTE]Have you posted this under the USA, NYC forum thread? I'm sure the guys there would be interested in finding such a pleasing lady. I love when the ladies can make you believe that you are the best lover in the world. This really sets the session apart. Right up there with her husband walking in as you're jumping out the back window without your underpants and socks, carrying your shoes in your hands. Crazy stuff for sure.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;2374907]Have you read past 15 posts here? Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yes except for the Pistons and Neurosynth posts. . Whatever Neurosynth and Pistons are discussing is totally beyond me:I try to steer clear of grumpy arguments if I can

I didn't want to jump to conclusions about your reasons for asking. As you say speculation is not a good thing

I believe the Ararat post was not up when I posted. I don't understand this "taking sides". Surely we are all just interested in the forum functioning with useful informative posts?

[QUOTE=Optimist;2375052]

I didn't want to jump to conclusions about your reasons for asking. As you say speculation is not a good thing

[/QUOTE]As I said, if I remember correctly, you are the first member of posting about poster with multiple handles. Since then this issue became frequently mentioned and was sometimes used against other posters. But so far I have not read and gotten any conclusive evidence from any member including you to support this claim.

Before I retired, I made a living by financially speculating as a bond trader. I profoundly and sometimes painfully learned at that time that nobody can correctly speculate all the time, nobody. Fortunately, in financial field, if your speculation is correct 7 out of 10 times, you can still make decent profit with proper money and risk management.

But when we make comments on people, we shouldn't use any speculation because the reputation of the person who is the subject of speculation could be damaged without any truth in it.

I think that a poster shouldn't make any accusation that some member has multiple handles unless he can provide conclusive evidence like somehow the poster knows that the posts from multiple nick names come from the same IP address and so on, or states that the accusation is a speculation. If we don't do that, next victim could be any of us.

Hello Steve

I agree that one should not post speculation as the person who is subject could be damaged by it. That is why I have never posted any speculation about another member.

By addressing your points (about needing to prove accusations) to me, you are implying that I have been posting accusations and naming a particular member. I have never made any such post.

As for the general point, I don't see any harm if a person has two or three handles, but if a person has loads more then I personally would not want to be involved with such a person, so yes, I do keep this in mind. As in all walks of life, I like to check out my evidence and feelings about people I engage with.

You clearly care about due process and fairness. In view of this I'd be grateful if you would ensure any claims about my posts are based on factual evidence. You yourself say you are relying on a memory of an unspecified post I made (you say "If I" ( Bfsie) "remember correctly")

Rather than bore other members with this I am happy to discuss further by PM

Cheers

Hi Optimist,

Let's finish this discussion, so this is my last post on this topic and obviously you can response to my post.

First of all, as you know from all of my previous posts with regards to you, I have a great respect for you, so there is nothing personal against you here.

Secondly, I didn't say and imply that you named any particular poster.

Thirdly, I don't want to do this, but since you challenged me, so I have to response to your challenge with your post mentioning about multiple handles as follows. I don't think that anyone can find any earlier post here from any poster on the subject of multiple handles.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2301535]Cane and Mr Ho. There is a person posting in various threads who has maybe eight handles. I try not to be conned into replying to any of them.[/QUOTE]Again, Optimist, with all due respect, I have nothing against you personally. I hope you see my good intention to make this forum as pleasant as possible for every poster without being labeled as something.

Cheers.

Bfsie. Fair to quote my post :) But as you see it makes my point for me. I never gave any information which would identify a person. That would be improper. Nor have I labelled another poster.

We seem to be at cross purposes: I have never said that I did not mention fake handles.

Let's finish this. If we meet we can chat about it much more easily than doing increasingly confusing posts.

O.

Which club (s) do you think has the highest percentage of natural looking and acting girls ie. Natural boobs, natural lips, untanned skin, no tattoos, less makeup and less mechanical acting?

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2375225]Which club (s) do you think has the highest percentage of natural looking and acting girls ie. Natural boobs, natural lips, untanned skin, no tattoos, less makeup and less mechanical acting?[/QUOTE]Such a club doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;2375073]As I said, if I remember correctly, you are the first member of posting about poster with multiple handles. Since then this issue became frequently mentioned and was sometimes used against other posters. But so far I have not read and gotten any conclusive evidence from any member including you to support this claim.

Before I retired, I made a living by financially speculating as a bond trader. I profoundly and sometimes painfully learned at that time that nobody can correctly speculate all the time, nobody. Fortunately, in financial field, if your speculation is correct 7 out of 10 times, you can still make decent profit with proper money and risk management.

But when we make comments on people, we shouldn't use any speculation because the reputation of the person who is the subject of speculation could be damaged without any truth in it.

I think that a poster shouldn't make any accusation that some member has multiple handles unless he can provide conclusive evidence like somehow the poster knows that the posts from multiple nick names come from the same IP address and so on, or states that the accusation is a speculation. If we don't do that, next victim could be any of us.[/QUOTE]Thank you Bfsie.

You are a man of honor and I agree with you.

As for naming names, yes that has been done. Directly, indirectly, and plenty of times.

I have been directly accused by these acclaimed foundational members as being one of the trolls. Gino, FuckedupSwede, Tintin, Expatlover, LabambaBoy, Pksimar, Memphis10, Ludacris775, Pokerweisbaden, Omar Rap. Perhaps another ten members. It has been done multiple times, in multiple FKK threads, quite easy to search and see for yourself.

At first, I did not know why my name was being pulled into comments by people I never knew. First few times, I ignored them. But that hardly stopped. When I replied somewhat forcibly, apparently that was a no-no from the POV of these foundational gentlemen; the expectation seems to be that I should have kept my mouth shut in the face of barbs by these senior members. Two of them ganged up on me questioning that I was even an American.

They said there was one man with 8 handles but roughly two dozen are being accused of being these fake handles. I became curious and looked up: Gino has been posting since 2004. ExPat has 3000+ posts. I am honored being thought of one of their duplicate avatars. I'm happy to take credit for all the thousands of informative comments posted by these gentlemen over years. Early on in my history here, Gino and I had a small argument. I guess I must have been arguing against myself to somehow throw off the forum.

At one point, I thought this was not worth it and thought of stopping to post altogether. But if that is the purpose of these foundational gentlemen. To discourage members from posting. That is not quite within the rules or spirit of this forum. As far as I know, this is an anonymous forum and no one's passport has been verified. There is only one moderator and he is doing a great job. Thank goodness.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2375225]Which club (s) do you think has the highest percentage of natural looking and acting girls ie. Natural boobs, natural lips, untanned skin, no tattoos, less makeup and less mechanical acting?[/QUOTE]The club used to be called Jeffery Epstein. You had to be rich and connected.

Pissing in a public pool.

I remember a year or two ago, sitting during a summer day by the pool at Sharks. I was engaging in idle conversation with another male guest who I previously did not know, but we just ended up chatting about alot of things, especially, of course, about the nude and semi-nude parade of females that would work the circuit of lounge chairs occupied men lying in the sun. At one point, we both noticed that despite the heat of the day, there was just one guy in pool the whole time. I remarked to my new friend that this was curious. He gave me a wry smile and then launched into the following story, some episode of his life travelling around the globe:

"I'll tell you something that once saw at a giant public pool on the outskirts of a fairly large city. There was this Olympic sized swimming pool that was visited by lots of really good swimmers and just ordinary people enjoying a dip. One day it was discovered that one of the swimmers in the pool used to p iss in the pool water on purpose to annoyance of the other people using it and to get other people out of the pool so that he, for his own warped reasons, could have the pool all to himself. As word went round that somebody kept deliberately pissing in the pool, people started to abandon the place and would no longer swim there. Some of the pools long time veteran swimmers who used to do laps or do double flips of the diving board, no longer showed up. Pretty soon there was hardly anybody at all in the pool. Some people who loved the pool and wanted to protect its integrity tried to reason with the person, this "p iss artist," to get him to change his ways and stop pissing in the pool. But he at first just ignored them, then claimed it wasn't him but somebody else doing the pissing, but in the end it was discovered that he just kept pissing. You can probably guess what happened in the end: The pisser was the only one using the pool, because all of the original swimmers, either found another pool, or stopped swimming altogether. The "p iss artist," it was later discovered, had mental problems and was delusional. He seemed quite happy to swim alone in his own p iss, but for lots of other innocent people, the damage had been done.!

I remember this story whenever I go to Sharks. I never use the pool there even this story about the pisser did not happen specifically at the Sharks pool. Actually, I can't remember exactly where this guy's story took place, but it was at some far off location in the western world, New Zealand, maybe, or Sinapore, somewhere distant like that, but the morals seemed to apply to things very close to home here in FKKland.

Sorry for being so off-topic, it just came back to me, as now the summer season at FKKs is ending and we get ready cooler weather, when we walk by an empty pool in Sharks' garden.

Safe and happy mongering to all for the next few months, and let's hope we can get some genuinely good, honest and most important truly informative reports about specific girls with great service attitudes at real and proper pricing. Top of the morning to you all!

Ortos. Allegories always make good stories. With my limited imagination I learn a lot from them. It was worth reading to the end

I now imagine the pool empty apart from one guy whilst all the others have gone off elsewhere, having forgotten about the lonely man drowning by himself unseen by anyone, frantically waving to be noticed