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I'm not a big fan of tipping for services. That is what I paid for in the first place. Anyway, a while back in FantasyLand where the pricing is 55 Euro. If you give the girl 60 or 100 euros, some girls will give you the 5 or 45 Euro back. But some girls will say that the don't have 5 Euro with them and just keeps the entire amount or gives back 40 Euro.

I don't encourage tipping, in fact I don't like to tip. I'll give a tip only if and when my job gives me tips for my work.

But if you get the puppy eyes look for tips with the girls. I usually say to the girls that I will have another session later with them, a quick kiss and a slap or squeeze on the ass. It usually works.

I know that when I go to the club, I usually have large bills, 50, 100, 500 Euros.
I suggest that you bring in a few small bills for just in case.

From my enquiries with girls - tipping seems to be more common than we normally think. However members of the isg and roemerforum are very much less likely to tip than other men I am told (The girls very often know who is a member of which forum). As I said I rarely tip (once or twice in the last three years) , but if I think the girl is genuine, not greedy and has done something really beyond the call of duty, then I have. Oddly I never tip if I get a favourite girl I do lots of repeats - the "relationship" then becomes one where I feel tipping is patronising (none so weird as folk as they say)

Nice summary Ortos about how to behave - not only is it just "right" to show respect, but one is more likely to get a decent time if one dosn't see the girls just as fucktoys

I won't knock anyone who tips at an FKK (although the Germans hate it when "tourists" do this: they think that it "spoils" the girls) there are better ways to show the ladies you gratitude. A repeat or extended session is the best way. If you have to tip, then just extend the session.

Cheers,

Dedalus

And I work pretty damned hard for my living as well. In fact, they almost always want me to do what I do cheaper all the time.

I must admit, I have not asked for a bit of change because it seems wrong to make her go ge it, when the service has been good or we have gone over-time and she has said to forget the 5 mnutes or so.

That is normal polite business.

But no, I only recently had a go at that well known Idiot from San diego recently about paying €50 every single time for €35 Alkmaar sessions.

It increases inflation, squeezes out the locals, decreases service levels, which depresses custom and the industry and eventually hurts the very Girls you are trying to help.

This is not a situation where we are dealing with underpaid workers who need tips to make up their base salaries (i.e. illegal immigrant waitresses in New York). Some may give you short term benefit from it, but many will not respect you for it either, they will look down on you for it and see you as weak and gullable and give you less next time. I see it all the time in my business when I am soft in the deal.

These girls are extremely highly paid, moreso than their customers are, and if they have financial difficulties it is usually because of circumstances not the fault of the extremely highly paying custmoer.

If im at a club like PHG, goldentime or Samya that all have the same basic rate of 50 for the first half hour and 25 for the next half hour...would booking a third half hour revert back to the original 50 charge? Ive read that goldentime stays at 25 per half hour, but are there any clubs where at the turn of the hour, the original rate comes back into play?

Ohhh, should also mention that the Breadman doesnt tip. I'll rebook the girl a couple times if her service was good.

I have always followed a strict "no tipping - Extend or Repeat" policy. I take it so far that I save 5€ bills up in my place extra for FKK trips, so I don't have the "No change available" excuse.

I never heard a problems with this until recently. This girl Nicki from Wildenrath now has cancer and has been out of the game for a bunch of months doing chemo and stuff. Due to some unlucky circumnstances, past medical problems, and some family members and ex-boyfriends who have been more than willing to take, she has been left pretty desolate. She is that one that there is a pic of somewhere here where she looks like some sort of Pamela anderson girl, and she used ot be in Playboy Germany and stuff. Well, I have been leaving some money in the office for her recently, and then once they gave this other girl who I always have 2 hour sessions with the money to bring to Nicci. She complained that I never ever tip, always pay the exact amount, but this girl who did nothing gets 4 times more from me than she did. The people in the office mentioned this to me.

So I went and talked to her about it, and whether she was upset. She said she totally understands my policy. I do not tip, but if a girl really needs the help or the money I'll find a way to get it to her. For her, I just book her for a long time, but she is still out there earning. I asked if i should start tipping her to show my appreciation and she really genuinely assured me it is not necessary and she respects me for it.

The other policy that I follow is to be generous about how to measure the time. If I was in a room for 40 minutes, I don't haggle, I pay the full hour, always! That is the extent of tipping. Extend, repeat, add extras or be generous in calculating the time (this is easier to do in the Ddf area with 25€/30 mins instead of 50).

Breadman,

This has been answered here before.

Officially each additional half hour is 25€ and never reverts back. But a lot of girls will ask you for 75€ each hour. If you ask them to chekc that policy with the desk BEFORE you pay them, then in all clubs it will be 75€+50€+50€ and so on for each continuous additional hour with the same girl. But if you are a Hard core fucker and the whole two hours were just fucking hard, then be man enough to pay them 75€ for each hour for all the hard work.

Hi,
For any strange reason I seem to get a kick out of High Mileage girls, big meatful lips (not in her face :-) dirty talk and (semi)public action. On my two fkk visits so far I've not been able to follow up on these as I simply don't know how to figure out at least the first two. I assume most girls don't like to admit these kind of "properties" upon direct question.
I'm now plannig for a visit during a one night stop over in FRA and thought about Palace just for simplicty reasons, however if anyone knows about any better supply of these attributes in some other nearby fkk, I'm happy to hear. Thanks in advance....

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[QUOTE=uggabugga]For any strange reason I seem to get a kick out of High Mileage girls, big meatful lips (not in her face :-) dirty talk and (semi)public action.
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The most exhibitionistic and loudest girls work at Bernds.

Most of the women tend to keep their legs together at most FKK clubs so even if they are nude, they don't really display themselves.

At Bernds because they can't approach the guys they advertise by displaying their physical characteristics including what they have down there.

Babylon and Wiago also tends to have visually provocative girls.

They will sit there, not say anything but their hands will casually wander down there to touch and once in a while even insert a finger. They can sometimes put on quite a show.

Bernds also probably leads the way in terms of public action and in terms of really loud activity.

If you haven't been, you should go.

Thanks Jackyo, that's definately something to consider. But with regards to the mileage, do you think they will fancy those kind of questions and be honest with their answer?

[QUOTE=uggabugga]Thanks Jackyo, that's definately something to consider. But with regards to the mileage, do you think they will fancy those kind of questions and be honest with their answer?[/QUOTE]

Of the Big 3 in Frankfurt, Oase is probably your best bet. I see more open and loud sex there than at the other two. Daniela at World might be a possibility for you as well.


Cheers,

Dedalus

Will be in the Netherlands, near Mastricht for a couple days some time next month. Can I get a few decent FKK"S that are within an hours drive?

[QUOTE=Jack591]Will be in the Netherlands, near Mastricht for a couple days some time next month. Can I get a few decent FKK"S that are within an hours drive?[/QUOTE]

You are a lucky guy, because the answer is ...yes! And even a few major:

In Germany

Goldentime
Heidweg 1 41379 BRUGGEN
Phone : 02163 8894760
Open: Mon-Sat 11am-1am Sun 3pm-1am
Homepage: [url]www.goldentime.de:[/url]
Entrance 50€
Price: 50€/30min 75€/60min

Planet Happy Garden
Butzenstr. 41 47918 TÖNISVORST/OEDT
Phone: 02152-519103
Open: Mon-Sat 11am-1am, Sun 3pm-1am
Homepage: [url]http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/[/url]
Entrance: 50€
Prices: 50 €/30min, 75€/60min
Misc.: Solarium, Sauna, Buffet:

Parksauna Wildenrath
Heinsberger Str. 35 41844 WEGBERG/WILDENRATH
Phone: 02432-908535
Open: Mon-Thu 11am-2am, Fri 11am-4am, Sat 5pm-4am, Sun 5pm-12pm
Homepage : [url]www.parksauna-wildenrath.de[/url].
Entrance : 50€
Prices : 50€/30min, 75€/60min

And in the Netherland:

Yin Yang
Heinsbergerweg 230 ROERMOND
Phone: (0475) 53 25 96
Open: Mon-Fri 11am-1am Sat-Sun 1pm-1am
Homepage: [url]www.yinyang.nl[/url].
Entrance: 50€
Prices : 50€/30min, 75€/60min

[QUOTE=Routard]You are a lucky guy, because the answer is ...yes! And even a few major:[/QUOTE]And if you could only pick one? Say for Thursday night?

[QUOTE=Jack591]And if you could only pick one? Say for Thursday night?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't advise going to YinYang you can read a report of mine when I was there a coupel of weeks ago.

I would go to GoldenTime if I was you. Great outdoor area, loads of very attractive women and the huts outside and some of the rooms inside are air conditioned.

I went to PHG a couple of weeks ago and although it was good it was not up to the standard of GT and there was no air-con in the huts outside so it was like having a session in a sauna.

In the newspapers here up in the north, they write that the German police made razzias at around 75 fkk's(?) in middle and southern Germany. Several people were arrested.

In Sweden we all live with the belief that our view of life is the only possible one, and presently everything that is FKK-like is the worst thing you can think about. The newspapers only write about the football championship and the many prostitues in Germany.

On TV on the other hand they send things like Big Brother where young people are locked in a house, fed with alcohol and of course perform a lot of sexual activites in front of the cameras. This shit seems to be OK to send to be watched by young people. And in the same newspaper where they are furious about prostitues in Germany telling they want to continue with their work, they some pages later write everyting about last evenings BigBrother and who fucked who. This is in fact a very strange country.

Anyone have some real info about what the police have done? I do hope they have focused on trafficing. In that case, they have my best sympathy.