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Flight time from London is about 12 hours, so Amsterdam should be the same or less. If it is quoted as longer there must be a stopover.
That's 2 or 3 films, read a few magazines, eat, drink, sleep. Time flies...
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ive been thinking of going to thailand for some time now. What has been keeping me from going is the 17 hour flight from new york city.
Can anyone give me a suggestion on how I can break up my flying time? I thought I could spend one night in amsterdam at an airport hotel. However after looking at expedia.com it seems to be 19 hrs away.
I have sleeping pills and all that but I still dont think I could last 17 hours.
Thank you. Im a latin america person who knows nothing about asia.
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]
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If I were going to Thailand for the first time, I probably wouldn't sleep. I would be too crazy with anticipation.
That said, maybe you are a smoker, which is why you want break up the trip? my advice is to go the most direct route, and chew on some gum. ( i am not a smoker, but I know 17 hours can be a killer if you want a fix).
Or maybe that is not the reason. Regardless, 17 hours non stop, versus 7 hours to AMS then overnight, then 12 hours to BKK. No brainer. Or you could fly Turkish airlines. Istanbul has to be pretty much the half way mark.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Flight time from London is about 12 hours, so Amsterdam should be the same or less. If it is quoted as longer there must be a stopover.
That's 2 or 3 films, read a few magazines, eat, drink, sleep. Time flies...[/QUOTE]
Ok that helps. Would you recommend a specific airlines from amsterdam ?
Thanks again. I will now rtff.
Artisttyp
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ok that helps. Would you recommend a specific airlines from amsterdam ?
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]
SQ (#25?) flies to Singapore in 12 hours so any non-stop from there to Bkk should be about the same - check with your local TA or go on-line, no?
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Artisttyp,
AMS-BKK
China Airlines:
14.25-07.10 (mext morning) - fly time 10 hrs 45 mins
EVA:
appr 12.00-05.00 (next morning) - fly time appr 11 hrs
BKK-AMS
CAL(=China Airlines): 02.40-09.00 (same day)
EVA: 03.00-09.30 (same day)
For me, EVA arrives in BKK too early in the morning and they carry a 'lower' class of people. Flew them once, will never do so again! But if I were in your situation, I would try to limit stop-over time as much as possible and they might work!
KLM sucks even more. I wouldn't let them fly my dead parrot:(!
SAS and Finnair may fly the shortest routes (Nordic hubs) but don't appear to connect well. SAS requires two stop overs (Copenhagen and Stockholm). Finnair fly New York-Helsinki and Helsinki-Bangkok, but they don't list the combined journey on their website.
Should you need a hotel near AMS, might I suggest (strongly recommend!) Haarlem? PM for details if needed.
Well, I hope this adds to your confusion:).
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ok that helps. Would you recommend a specific airlines from amsterdam?
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]Good flights and good rates from AMS to BKK are China Airlines and EVA airlines direct to BKK , EVA as a semi buss. Class with big seats for a few 100$ more , KLM will be to expensive and Singapore air as a stop over, look also at a Frankfurt stop over if you really want to travel via Europe.
I have been flying in to USA from BKK and SIN to San Francisco why not flying to BKK with a connection JFK (or stop over) in LAX or SFO ?
John Euro
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Thanks
I appreciate everyones help..thank you. Yes I am familiar with haarlem and amsterdam in general.
I guess china air sounds good. I couldnt understand what the other initials stood for but I could probably figure it out.
Ill get back to the forum when I do my homework.
Thanks again,
Artisttyp
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ive been thinking of going to thailand for some time now. What has been keeping me from going is the 17 hour flight from new york city.
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I fly trans pacific for work about every month and I can tell you two things:
1) drugs... valium or ambien or such, pop a pill and you can be asleep for 8 hours and that really helps if you are a smoker, almost any doctor will prescribe for long haul trips. And even if you are not a smoker if you have the long haul flights you can have a nice long sleep.
2) Noise Cancelling Headphones... bose are name brand but Able planet are better sound quality however audio technica block out the most noise and are the cheapest, others like panasonic and what you get at sam's club or such stink. Put those on with your MP3 player with something soothing that you can rest to and it blocks out all children, engine, FA's, etc...
I wake up rested and ready to go.... Don't let the flight stop you from going.
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[QUOTE=Freeler]Artisttyp,
For me, EVA arrives in BKK too early in the morning and they carry a 'lower' class of people. Flew them once, will never do so again! .[/QUOTE]Watch who you are calling "lower".
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I appreciate everyones help..thank you. Yes I am familiar with haarlem and amsterdam in general.
I couldnt understand what the other initials stood for but I could probably figure it out.
Artisttyp[/QUOTE]In addition to Artisttyp his question on initials he could not figure out. This site can be very helpful for everybody flying around the globe – site with all airport and airline codes + flight time between airports etc .
[url]http://www.airportcitycodes.com/aaa/CCDBFrame.html[/url]
With pleasure
John Euro
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Freeler,
Like other things everyone has a opinion on everything. I have traveled on Northwest, Eva, China, Cathay, United, Singapore, Thai, and it really depends on the city that it is departing and connecting from. Two years ago I went to Thailand for San Francisco on Cathay ( voted the number 1 Airline in the world ) as you know that would be SFO/HKG/BKK, going was no problem, but returning I took the last flight out of BKK/HKG/SFO, (11:30am) the flight was late into BKK, which had me worry because the connection to SFO from HKG was real short! When I boarded I noticed that this flight was from India and the back was nearly full! It was already 1/2 pass the departure time and everyone was standing or roaming around the airplane. I got up and went to the back to ask the attendant when do we plan to leave? Passengers were standing outside the back galley having beer and waiting for the bathroom and many didn't have their shoes or socks on! When the flight was departing people was still roaming around I never in my 30 years in the Airline industry saw anything like this and to top that when I went to the bathroom in the back the floor was flooded with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] but the Indian passengers didn't care they came in and out without shoes or socks. The Fight attendants didn't give a shit or they just gave up. I too and since have never booked another flight on Cathay. I just let my 75,000 miles expire last year!
Since gave up on Northwest, just couldn't stand going thru Narita and another 6.5 hours to BKK way to long. Since then for the last year I have been traveling on Eva, people seem o.k. they don't seem too low to me? Now that I have figure out their system I usually book on a heavy flight in coach and they will upgrade you to Deluxe coach for free to free up the oversold coach, if you carry a Silver card. Most people who travel on Eva out of SFO are usually in large groups and aren't member of their miles club.
So far Eva has been good to me!
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LBM,
It's obvious that the team up of KLM and Northwest has done either airline any good:(.
You might have cracked the bad smelling Indians conundrum. O jeez, did I say something that pisses some people off:)?
Lord,
I watched them and decided that they were the lowest class of traveling drunks I ever encountered. I haven't met a lower class of travelers since. The folks at Pattaya's The Dog Bollocks are extremely well behaved compared to the human waste on that EVA flight. Satisfied?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Freeler,
Since then for the last year I have been traveling on Eva, people seem o.k. they don't seem too low to me? Now that I have figure out their system I usually book on a heavy flight in coach and they will upgrade you to Deluxe coach for free to free up the oversold coach, if you carry a Silver card. Most people who travel on Eva out of SFO are usually in large groups and aren't member of their miles club.
So far Eva has been good to me![/QUOTE]I have over 500,000 miles with EVA. I have never seen any "drunks" on any of the flights that I have been on. Mostly just people going to TPE to go home, or to SFO to visit folks, little old grannies and the like. In all of the flights that I have been on, there has been only one cancellation, and I cannot recall them ever being over 15 min late, usually they are early. In my experience the airline bends over backwards to take care of their "regular" customers, even if we are low class
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China Air
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China Air
I once flew China Air from BKK to Newark with a stop in TPE and another in Anchorage. Just about every passenger had a wheeled carry-on, and each of them ran over my feet with it at least once during the trip, and those who didn't had the chance to make up for it while hanging around the luggage carousel in EWK. As far as no-class people on an airline flight goes, that was it for me. The hicks in the hinterlands of Thailand have more class when riding in rickety buses.
On an Eva flight I once had some Filipino guy in a down parka sitting next to me and I was ready to strangle the bastard after three minutes, his jacket rubbing against me whenever he moved, but I managed to find an empty row all to myself in the back of the plane. Nice looking flight crew, too. You get a lot of Filipinos doing the trans-Pacific leg on Eva.
