Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2580793]This shit is not over with. This shit will not be over with, no matter how much you wish it to be so, until the virus is crushed either by everyone getting the vaccine or the disease. 20% of Colombians are vaccinated. Masking is not about you or your dick, it's about preventing a public health emergency. The ICU's in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena are currently 92% full.

Imagine this: you step out of your hotel in Bogota and are hit by a cab and have major head injuries. There are no ambulances; however, the cab driver takes you to the hospital, but there are no beds. You can't breathe on your own, but all the ventilators are being used by Covid patients. Sorry, you die.

You want to monger in Vietnam, sorry only 4% of people have been vaccinated. Kenya, 2%. There are probably three or four billion people on Earth who have not been vaccinated or who have not had the disease. If you want 'this shit to be over with' and to go back to normal where you can stroll past smiling prostitutes, then you should be lobbying your representative for more federal vaccine funding for all people on earth.[/QUOTE]Roughly 5 billion people are either unvaccinated or have not had Covid. Unfortunately, about 30% of the vaccinated people were vaccinated with the Sinovac vaccine which appears to have low effectiveness against the Delta variant. With Delta becoming a major source of infection, that puts about 5. 5 billion still at risk of infection.

For those who, for whatever silly reason, don't want to get vaccinated, go ahead and throw away your masks and go about business as usual. There's nothing to worry about.

Nothing except for the real possibility that Colombia is going to be reinstating the curfews in Bogota and Medellin since ICU space is again rapidly running out. Then there's that minor risk of getting Covid (even if you are vaccinated). It's really nothing to worry about at all. Sure, you might end up in an emergency room absolutely certain you're about to die (not to mention some large medical bills). Sure, you might end up spending an extra $1500 because you got stuck in quarantine. Sure you might be almost completely unable to fuck for 3 weeks, because you can just barely breathe enough to keep from passing out. You might even end up stinking because you can't stand up long enough to take a shower. You probably don't want to hear about the bad parts.

I'm here to assure you that's all nothing compared to having a sore arm twice, for almost 8 hours each time, and having to put an almost weightless piece of paper over your face.

So, when the 6 pm curfews come back and when the doctor tells you that you don't need to go to the hospital, because you're doing fine (although it's because they have no place to put you at the hospital), you can take a deep breath and enjoy your stay. Well, you can't really take a deep breath. You can try, get really dizzy, start coughing which triggers your gag reflex and you spend 2 minutes gasping and gagging and trying desperately not to pass out. Which is kinda fun in a "if I puke there's nobody who will come and clean it up, and if I pass out, eventually someone will find me face down in my own vomit" way.

Feel free to opine.

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Once again, flat out wrong. I do not support the vaccine bcos I think it is immoral to murder innocent beings in the experiments conducted to research, develop and test pharmaceutical products. I have stated that several times. I do not know why it will not sink in to your thick head. Sentient beings are raped, enslaved and encaged, their babies stolen from them, mutilated, tortured and murdered. Why? So that another sentient being can live? If you are not willing to sacrifice urself or your own loved ones for such a cause, you have no moral right to force others to do it. That is why it is immoral to me. So very far from your ridiculous assumptions.[/QUOTE]Once again, you prove there is no way to argue with stupidity.

Humans are not harmed in thousands as you say in the development, trials or mass vaccination campaigns. Phase 1,2 and 3 trials have clearly written protocols and trials have to go through IRB approvals. It's a scaled up roll out so as to minimize human risk.

These vaccines have so far proven much safer and more highly effective than any of us could have hoped for a year ago. Yet you throw out these baseless opinions as facts without citing any basis whatsoever and flat out make up shit for why you won't vaccinate. If you won't at least grow a pair and say you just won't.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2580880]Once again, you prove there is no way to argue with stupidity.
Humans are not harmed in thousands as you say in the development, trials or mass vaccination campaigns.
These vaccines have so far proven much safer and more highly effective than any of us could have hoped for a year ago. Yet you throw out these baseless opinions as facts without citing any basis whatsoever and flat out make up shit for why you won't vaccinate. If you won't at least grow a pair and say you just won't.[/QUOTE]Another one that throws out insults without taking the time to read or understand what was written. What is it with you guys, did you throw out all your common sense when you started chasing women? As others have said earlier today, too many of you can only think with your dicks.

I never said that humans are harmed in the development of vaccines. I said sentient beings. I care about sentience. The ability to suffer. I don't care how intelligent you are, or how hairy you are, what colour you are, or how many legs you have. If you can experience pleasure and suffering, then you share what is important and have inherent value.

"Other animals, which, on account of their interests having been neglected by the insensibility of the ancient jurists, stand degraded into the class of things. . The day has been, I grieve it to say in many places it is not yet past, in which the greater part of the species, under the denomination of slaves, have been treated. Upon the same footing as. Animals are still. The day may come, when the rest of the animal creation may acquire those rights which never could have been withholden from them but by the hand of tyranny. The French have already discovered that the blackness of skin is no reason why a human being should be abandoned without redress to the caprice of a tormentor. It may come one day to be recognized, that the number of legs, the villosity of the skin, or the termination of the os sacrum, are reasons equally insufficient for abandoning a sensitive being to the same fate. What else is it that should trace the insuperable line? Is it the faculty of reason, or perhaps, the faculty for discourse?. The question is not, Can they reason? Nor, Can they talk? But, Can they suffer? Why should the law refuse its protection to any sensitive being?. The time will come when humanity will extend its mantle over everything which breathes. ".

Jeremy Bentham.

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please not respond to a long report by re-posting the whole report because it is redundant and takes up space to where people are having to scroll lot to get past responses.
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[QUOTE=Onojdi;2580989]I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.[/QUOTE]You took it a little far when you suggest people ignore or forget about the advice of veterans here. I have never been anywhere in the world which includes all the continents, that has the variety of mongering options, styles and prices, as Medellin. Anyone can develop their own hybrid model of what works for them.

You gave some great advice for like minded and situated warriors as yourself. I am sure there are more than a few here. We all bring different backgrounds, biases and economics to the game. You sound just like a young buck with some success in life, should sound, and that is cool. I would have to agree there is a bias here from broke-ass old guys, but they probably offer more broad useful info to the readership, than you or I. No one here should view their methods or the self as better than anyone else's. Just different, and then we can all borrow or steal from each other, jajaj Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2581377] You sound just like a [b]young[/b] buck with some [b]success[/b] in life, should sound, and that is cool. I would have to agree there is a bias here from [b]broke-ass old guys[/b], but they probably offer more broad useful info to the readership, than you or I. [/QUOTE]Do you really mean that? Who are these old guys. I am pretty sure it is not Surfer who probably is wealthier than most. I have met some living in Colombia who are poor but they are not old.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2581435]Do you really mean that? Who are these old guys. I am pretty sure it is not Surfer who probably is wealthier than most. I have met some living in Colombia who are poor but they are not old.[/QUOTE]He is retired, out of shape, has too much ear hair, knows ten word of Spanish at most, doesn't floss, rude, and wouldn't know a female orgasm if it bit him on the tongue, jajjaja.

I read somewhere (unverified) that the vast majority of Gringos who expatriate to Colombia do so on the value of their social security check alone. If we assume one of the reasons Americans choose to live here is decent quality of life at a half or less the cost of living, then that would support my point, too. But a guy could have ten million in assets and still only use his social security for immigration visa purposes. And I think most guys here are short term visitors to Colombia, not trying to relocate or establish Colombian residency. No one knows the demographic on this board, so yes, I was being flippant.

But the original poster did mention that he also felt a bias in the direction I listed. And another poster after him said the same thing. And I get the felling from here, too. This is a classic of perception if truth, but we all perceive things differently, too. I have no prejudice against people based on income or age. I am prejudiced against assholes.

Bottom Line, no one really knows what the demographic is here. Thanks for the feedback. You made me stop and think.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2581622]He is retired, out of shape, has too much ear hair, knows ten word of Spanish at most, doesn't floss, rude, and wouldn't know a female orgasm if it bit him on the tongue, jajjaja.
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Bottom Line, no one really knows what the demographic is here. Thanks for the feedback. You made me stop and think.[/QUOTE]There are many kinds of long term gringo visitors / residents that I think all have it pretty good. First are the nomadic work from anywhere online types. Mainly IT. Who get paid well, some by the hour even, and who can leverage their first world incomes with Colombian cost of living, and the second are the retired early and have enough to be classified as rich by Colombian standards if not by US standards. Say the 55 yr old that has amassed $1 M and wants to call it a day early. A very shaky position in the US but a very cushioned one in Colombia. You can even add to that the seasonal workers in the US who work around 6 months a year and make good money but then have 6 mths of down time. There are also fields that are always in demand and those guys just chose to work less and enjoy their money and lives rather than chase the wealth mirage.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2581798]There are many kinds of long term gringo visitors / residents that I think all have it pretty good. First are the nomadic work from anywhere online types. Mainly IT. Who get paid well, some by the hour even, and who can leverage their first world incomes with Colombian cost of living, and the second are the retired early and have enough to be classified as rich by Colombian standards if not by US standards. Say the 55 yr old that has amassed $1 M and wants to call it a day early. A very shaky position in the US but a very cushioned one in Colombia. You can even add to that the seasonal workers in the US who work around 6 months a year and make good money but then have 6 mths of down time. There are also fields that are always in demand and those guys just chose to work less and enjoy their money and lives rather than chase the wealth mirage.[/QUOTE]Mongering was conspicuously absent in your description. Is it fair to say we really don't know the demographic of the mongers on this Website? I would like to hear your opinion even if there's no data to back it up.

Side joke: Do you know what my definition of digital nomad is? Anyone who claims it, has a laptop, and is more than 50 miles from their home. Jajaja. I am sarcastically saying the bar is low.

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[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2581622]But the original poster did mention that he also felt a bias in the direction I listed. And another poster after him said the same thing. And I get the felling from here, too. This is a classic of perception if truth, but we all perceive things differently, too. I have no prejudice against people based on income or age.

Bottom Line, no one really knows what the demographic is here. .[/QUOTE]Because if you do that means it applies to you, and if it applies to even 1 monger in the world that means it must be true and applies to everyone he wants to apply it to.

So don't call bullshit with this fool!

You wrote way too much lame childish sophistry for just 1 post bro.

Please lay off the bath salts.

And take the pills the doctor gave you.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2580880]Once again, you prove there is no way to argue with stupidity.

Humans are not harmed in thousands as you say in the development, trials or mass vaccination campaigns. Phase 1,2 and 3 trials have clearly written protocols and trials have to go through IRB approvals. It's a scaled up roll out so as to minimize human risk.

These vaccines have so far proven much safer and more highly effective than any of us could have hoped for a year ago. Yet you throw out these baseless opinions as facts without citing any basis whatsoever and flat out make up shit for why you won't vaccinate. If you won't at least grow a pair and say you just won't.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/buddycarter-kamalaharris-covid-vaccines/2021/07/19/id/1029169/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2581622]But the original poster did mention that he also felt a bias in the direction I listed. And another poster after him said the same thing. And I get the felling from here, too. [/QUOTE]That stereo type is not accurate. I think there was a similar conversation not long ago. Surfer has always said he likes them a little rough on the edges or something like that. I only use Surfer as an example because his age. Other Centro posters are actually not old unless you think thirty something is old. And really, the members who think they fuck 8, 9, and 10 in El Centro are the lucky ones. They are at an advantage in this debate because they get the same thing cheaper, in their head or mind, lol.

Anyone has a property in California can pretty much use rental income to finance living and mongering in Medellin. I guess Surfer has a property in California and we know he has one in El Poblado. He is not using either one for income and that tells you something. I can be wrong but it costs me nothing to be wrong, haha.