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[QUOTE=XXL] Countries with the highest condom-usage like Brazil are also the countries with the highest incidence of HIV. Surely, it should be clear by now that condoms are a major cause of AIDS.[/QUOTE]


LOL! Reminds me of your posting some time ago when a lot of members stumbled over it!!

[QUOTE=Menteng]LOL! Reminds me of your posting some time ago when a lot of members stumbled over it!![/QUOTE]

You mean he's posted something that ignorant and biased towards his personal preferences in the past as well? Pretty sad. Next thing he'll be posting that condoms increase the risk of pregnancy and that doctors shouldn't wear rubber gloves during surgery because sterile gloves cause more possibility for infection than simply using dirty, unwashed hands. The lengths people will go to in order to try to justify going bareback (when all common logic dictates otherwise) are disappointing.

[QUOTE=XXL]
Countries with the highest condom-usage like Brazil are also the countries with the highest incidence of HIV. Surely, it should be clear by now that condoms are a major cause of AIDS.
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Actually, I did a bit of research on a random theory a while back and found that there seemed to be a correlation between religion (number of people who claimed to believe absolutely in a monotheistic deity) and AIDs prevalence. There were countries that were exceptions, but on the whole it rang true. Catholicism is no doubt largely responsible, as well as the dominance of religion in the third world (less money = less educations = less condoms).

[QUOTE=Knight 1001]I have been 2 or 3 times to Delilah with a friend and though it is true that the atmosphere, music and crowd are predominently of arab origin, I do not think that the girls were particularly more chubby than elesewhere. What put me off was more the high ratio men/girls.[/QUOTE]

Knight 1001,

Yes, an Arab bar is the place if you want to see man to man dancing, ha ha.

Smoothy, John Aldrich and Rainman:

How are you guys doing?

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

All members known to Menteng:

Menteng's mother just passed away in NL. I just PM'ed him my condolence. I advice members known to him personally to PM him their condolences.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

I've been "lurking" for a while, but never got round to posting. Over past few years been on many a visit to Singapore (Ot etc), Malaysia, China etc. For last 12 months, been with one girl from Jakarta, and next month will visit - staying Marriott. However, girl has asked me to visit family with her, out in "suburbs" of JKT (as best as I can make out, near ancol, near container port?) IS IT SAFE in these areas during the day?

Common logic also dictates that unaids has a self-interest in scaring people.. more people scared, more money..$$

The length at which some hypo-critics go.. Ralph Fiennes, british actor, safe sex campaigner and unicef ambassador, barebacked a Qantas stewardess in a plane toilet, she lost her job, but he continued the next day to 'teach' poor Indian villagers about condom use...

how much would you believe of what the unaids is preaching. Circumcision is common practice in Indonesia.. it does help prevent. (..yes, I do know about the funny website - circumstitions).

Nope, not about the pills! It was a sarcastic remark he made that was not understood by a lot of members. I will not react upon your opinion about barebacking, but, Smoothy, the tone of your posting surprised me!


[QUOTE=Smoothy]You mean he's posted something that ignorant and biased towards his personal preferences in the past as well? Pretty sad. Next thing he'll be posting that condoms increase the risk of pregnancy and that doctors shouldn't wear rubber gloves during surgery because sterile gloves cause more possibility for infection than simply using dirty, unwashed hands. The lengths people will go to in order to try to justify going bareback (when all common logic dictates otherwise) are disappointing.[/QUOTE]

[blue]Greetings Sam Dino,

I deleted this "report" because the text contained so many unknown abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. In fact, it was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it looked like English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.

If you want to communicate with the rest of us, you will have to write in a language that we can all read.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I think there is a risk to what you are proposing but it's maybe not the risk you have in mind! The point I'm hinting at, is that getting involved with a girl's family could make it even harder to "escape" should you ever wish to do so. Going back to a girl's house will in itself be seen as quite a big deal; in the kampung there is always gossip and in order to "justify" their daughter's apparant relationship with you, the family will for sure be declaring you to be a potential husband. Of course if that's what you are: no problem.

Truly sorry to have to report this news – Cynthia of Kartika passed away this afternoon.

I received a phone call from Cynthia’s sister less than an hour ago (6 p.m. local time) to inform me that Cynthia had died around 3 p.m. this afternoon in her kampung (home village) outside of Semarang, Central Java. She had been home sick since late June, after having worked at Kartika in Jakarta since 2003 (with time off to give birth in August 2004).

Cynthia was 26 years old. She leaves behind her three-year old son Robbie and her extended family. Cause of death unknown.

Just in case it was a prank call, I called Rista at Kartika and she answered the phone in tears, and confirmed that the news was correct.

Wow. She was a wonderful human being who died way too young. She will be missed.

Sad to hear about the death of this lady but following on from the debate about BB and Condom use it is hard not to speculate that an unless she died as a result of some tragic accident,the possibility of an untreated ST condition is plausible.A former 5+1 girl died from untreated syphilis (Yes it is still a killer if left untreated)recently and I think that those of us who have been here a few years will probabaly know ofat least 1 girl in the sex industry who has died in mysterious circs.Imagine therefore the ones that you dont hear about.So all you intellectually tested barebackers,whilst potentially threatening all these girls with the basket of delights that nature has to offer may wish to ponder as to why it is that in Thailand the rate of new HIV infections has reduced considerably since the condom campaign took hold.

Think of them but think of yourselves as well.

BTW any body know of the whereabouts of the delectable Mrs R ?

I concurred with Bulai69. There is no risk go back with her to her kampong. Unless you wish to be treated as the future spouse! Thats the culture.

Cheers
Stelatebloomer


[QUOTE=Bulai69]I think there is a risk to what you are proposing but it's maybe not the risk you have in mind! The point I'm hinting at, is that getting involved with a girl's family could make it even harder to "escape" should you ever wish to do so. Going back to a girl's house will in itself be seen as quite a big deal; in the kampung there is always gossip and in order to "justify" their daughter's apparant relationship with you, the family will for sure be declaring you to be a potential husband. Of course if that's what you are: no problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy]A better question would be where can't you get it in JKT.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the corrections, somehow I had it while I was in PP Santoso (if I am not mistaken) with no 36...
And I don't really like "mandi kucing" although the WG has brushed her teeth, hehehe.

cheers.

Thank you for sharing the info with us! Take care JAD!

KL Guy

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]All members known to Menteng:

Menteng's mother just passed away in NL. I just PM'ed him my condolence. I advice members known to him personally to PM him their condolences.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]