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The meeting was arranged a day before. A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, called me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?

The girls I had in the past asked for taxi money only after they came in to my apartment and before they left my place but never in addition to the price of the meeting.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome.

[QUOTE=HornyMonger;1769736]The meeting is arrange a day before.

A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, call me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?[/QUOTE]You are dealing with an agency and not an independent. Very unlikely to get ripped but your girl will probably be something low class with a zero personality.

[QUOTE=Horny Monger;1769736]The meeting was arranged a day before. A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, called me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?

The girls I had in the past asked for taxi money only after they came in to my apartment and before they left my place but never in addition to the price of the meeting.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Riina;1769747]You are dealing with an agency and not an independent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input, but she doesn't sound like an agency because I tried to arrange a meeting with her several times and each time she either delayed the meeting by 2 to 3 hours or moved it early by 1 hour then cancelled; so we haven't met so far because of her irratic changing of time. Agencies send the girls fast and generally on time.

A friend of mine visited Kiev for 3 days, I told him to stay away from strip clubs and try night clubs, hes good looking.

Her went to mens club, took a stripper home from a club in the center, he managed to get her real name and her phone number during the time they were together and when she left he realized his bracelet was gone.

What is the proper thing to do here? Contact the club's manager and let him know, the stripper didn't return his phone call.

[QUOTE=HornyMonger;1769359]Does this kind of smog happen beginning September every year?[/QUOTE]Nope, there are the forest fires that have shrouded the city in smoke caused by illegal loggers. Then to avoid being caught they burn down the forest to hide the theft.

[QUOTE=Muddy7;1769762]A friend of mine visited Kiev for 3 days, I told him to stay away from strip clubs and try night clubs, hes good looking.

Her went to mens club, took a stripper home from a club in the center, he managed to get her real name and her phone number during the time they were together and when she left he realized his bracelet was gone.

What is the proper thing to do here? Contact the club's manager and let him know, the stripper didn't return his phone call.[/QUOTE]The management won't do anything.

And don't get girls from Dolls or Rio. They have low caliber women. If you take a girl out, try Arena, Paradise, Velvet.

The girls won't steal from you if you get them from there.

This brings me up to the following. Has anyone recently been to Velvet strip club? It is located inside Hotel Ukraine. I can't wait to return.

Hello mongers,

Is there anyway to avoid passport being stamped by Ukraine border control?

I am worried my better half to see it in my passport causing me trouble!

As CallSign Papa recounted, "a good MILF is worth her weight in gold. " So true. My first time in Kiev and I found a 105 lb of gold. First let me say as mostly a Dubai poster, I found this board very helpful in preparing my trip. Thanks to all of you. Second, Kiev is one of my top cities now. Alright it's not Berlin or Barcelona but there is very little downside and lots of up. These people deserve much better political leaders. Third, I recall earlier on this board advice to show respect for locals and ladies and that held true for me.

Ok, so I used mamba to prepare. My Russian is weak and I stand out as an older American white guy. But I'm not new to this. And I was MILF hunting. Not that the younger choices in this city are not stunning (and I found their English is better than older), but I was on a mission. Out of 15 attempts on mamba I got 5 solid responses and paired it down to two possible MILFs. I got a nicely appointed apt in the passage area, brought USD, and did my restaurant and disco homework. First night, I met the MILF that would be mine. She is stunning, mid-30's. Prior online, I promised financial support once we got back to my flat. Our first meeting (a Saturday) lasted all evening, walking through the city and stopping to drink and eat along the way. By the time we got back to my place, I knew she was hooked so. And I know this is weird, I just sent her packing and set up a date the next day. No pussy, no pay.

Later that night, I headed out to sample the professionals. First, I went to Golden Rhino in Arena complex but I could not find a stripper I liked. Onto Rio and did the VIP room, much like other reports here. Eventually found an english speaking petite brunette. She was fun, but covered BJ and limited DFK, ok in a pinch but not good value IMO. Funny thing was, she was leaving the next day to work in a hotel bar in Ras al-Khaimah in the UAE. Poor girl assumed it would be like Dubai.

So second day, I met up with the MILF mid-afternoon. That night and the next couple of days were marathon orifice exploration. I mean this girl / lady was clearly reserved and devout in public but once we got back to the flat, no holes barred. Eventually, we just stayed in the apartment for 10 hours straight. It really got kinky at one point with her riding me, then breaking out phone photos of her 19 year old daughter. Thank you, Ukraine.

I was in Kiev for 5 nights last week. I started working trough mamba 15 days prior to my visit. I collected approximately 20 mobile numbers and agreed to meet in Kiev.

First night; I arrived to Kiev late and didn't want to waste time to arrange a meeting with mamba girls because it would be a last minute effort. I went to Buddha bar instead. There were two tables with 5 ladies, I assumed that they were pros because they were looking at me very often. One of them was very pretty. I smiled at her, invited her to the bar with my eyes but she didn't make any move. I finished my drink and went to their table. After a little chat she asked 500 usd for all night, I offered 300 and agreed. As I said she was very pretty but service was not good. No DFK, oral with condom etc. I should have discussed the details of the service before the deal. Waste of money!

On the rest of my visit I decided try my chance with freebies. I was able to meet 5 of 20. Most of the girls told that they are busy, sick etc. (not a surprise). 3 of them were non-pros. But they were not pretty as in the profile photos plus I didn't feel like I can bang them in 1-2 days so I passed. One of them was a working girl she asked 200 for all night but she was 6-7 so I passed that one as well. I was loosing my hope on freebies and start thinking about going to Rio but I thought I have to eat dinner alone anyway so I decided to invite the last girl to Odessa Rest. As a company (by the way this a really good rest. It was close to Alfavito hotel where I stayed). A 24 years old 8 arrived. Her English was good enough to communicate. We ate and drunk a bottle of wine, I was expecting her to ask money but she didn't. She asked me if I would like to go to club. I said definitely yes. We went to a club called 'Sorry Babushka'. It is a kind a retro club not too much teenagers but the atmosphere was perfect. I didn't see any pros in the club but I had many eye contacts with other girls while we were dancing or I was going the restroom. (unfortunately when you go alone nobody looks, when you go with a girl every girl looks). %80 of the club was female as usual in Ukr. And I didn't see any foreigner in the club. I highly recommend this place if you are after freebies and milfs. Honestly I was still expecting her to ask money before we go into business but she didn't. I took her to the hotel. She slept with me that night and went to home in the morning. We met the next afternoon and I bought her some presents (I felt like I have to). I wish I could meet with her earlier in my trip. Any way I like Kiev. I can't bang a beauty like this free in my hometown that's for sure.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1769596]Thanks DF for a great report. I think you had the best of Mix& Match opportunties in Kiev.

And with the second bedroom and threesomes, you've definitely now earned the title of " Distinguished Monger ". Join the club. LOL.

Also a 9 from Rio for US $ 300 for 3 hours not bad either. How much did you spend inside the club?[/QUOTE]Glad you like the report I can't recall precisely but I'm pretty sure it was about 600 Gryvnas or about 30 USD. That was for 2 fresh squeezed orange juices, a Perrier and a coffee / espresso for the girl and I guess the entry fee. I didn't order a dance, but she sat at my table for about 30 minutes before we left. Also, I sat at the VIP lounge, so not sure if there is an additional charge for that or not. You can't call it "cheap" but for a strip club I didn't think it was bad at all. The key point is there doesn't seem to be much incentive for the girl to order a bunch of drinks while having no intention of leaving with you. At least not that I can tell. By comparison, take a look at an elite Manilla club like Air Force one or Classmates. Take out was the same 300 $ for 3 hours. Drinks were much more expensive and you are hassled to buy a lot of them. Lady Drinks were the norm and you are expected to tip male waiters and club managers. And Manila as way more messed up than Kiev (although I would happily monger in both.).

So overall, I liked Rio. I'd go again on another trip but definitely not everyday. Too expensive and other girls are much more GFE. At least compared to the one I picked, who was very nice but not GFE nice.

[QUOTE=HornyMonger;1769751]Thanks for your input, but she doesn't sound like an agency because I tried to arrange a meeting with her several times and each time she either delayed the meeting by 2 to 3 hours or moved it early by 1 hour then cancelled; so we haven't met so far because of her irratic changing of time. Agencies send the girls fast and generally on time.[/QUOTE]Sounds not like a Pro. More like a girl who would like to open new ways of income but doesn't dare to. The internet makes it easy to get into contact. Now terminal broken, so she tries it as a last resort. Could be great, but the odds are against. Usually these on / off girls are engulfed by scruples and may even run during sex before you finish.

Stay away,

H

[QUOTE=TickleBoobs;1769768]Nope, there are the forest fires that have shrouded the city in smoke caused by illegal loggers. Then to avoid being caught they burn down the forest to hide the theft.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply.

[QUOTE=Raffzahn;1769972]Sounds not like a Pro. More like a girl who would like to open new ways of income but doesn't dare to. The internet makes it easy to get into contact. Now terminal broken, so she tries it as a last resort. Could be great, but the odds are against. Usually these on / off girls are engulfed by scruples and may even run during sex before you finish.

Stay away,

H[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply.

I guess she wants the taxi to be paid on arrival; so she won't be left holding the bag if she decides to run in the middle or the beginning of the meeting.

But why doesn't she just take the metro as I am next to Metro Kreshschatyk? She said she's only 5 km away.

[QUOTE=HornyMonger;1769736]The meeting was arranged a day before. A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, called me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?

The girls I had in the past asked for taxi money only after they came in to my apartment and before they left my place but never in addition to the price of the meeting.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience and you can read my post in Kiev escorts.

I refused to pay and 2 girls came up in my apartment and I paid 200 UAH for the taxi in my apartment, what is anyway too much. As I explain in Kiev escorts.

[QUOTE=GremlinOg;1769808] No pussy, no pay. [/QUOTE]HA. . HA. . HA. . This is great!

Couple of weeks ago, a 25 years old MILF came, didn't put out her pussy and asked me for 450 UAH plus cigarette money, and I gave it to her because she looked pathetic and was practically begging for money! I didn't know she has a child because in her profile, she didn't say. I guess I was feeling charitable (throwing away 500 UAH) because I wasn't really interested in have sex with her anyway! Though I would f*ck her that night because she was there. But she wasted the whole night and. . . . . . which I wasn't really happy about wasting. Couple of days later, she called and wanted to come again; I basically ignored her.