German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Gino02;2418258][URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-illness-seen-evacuated-u-s-passengers-wuhan-cdc-says-n1125566[/URL]

That is how people / expats are now being tested first and only if negative for Coronavirus, they are let mingle with others after they arrive in USA or Europe. As much as inclusive society we want, we must be careful to not spread diseases that don't have vaccines or treatments. When was the last time in modern history any killer disease like HIV, SERS, MERS, Ebola or this Coronavirus originated in any Western European country or in USA? There are historical and health related cultural reasons to suspect other countries and their people. Also, note that we are not talking about brothels in China, they are probably already shut down or close to that. We are discussing how the German FKKs (not in Asia) can take precautions by "temporarily" banning people with Asian passports, or some sub-group of that as it makes sense by the German Physicians. Once a vaccine or a treatment is available, simply lift the ban.

Better follow what the health experts suggest in these cases.[/QUOTE]There have been cases of secondary infections already. Also, incubation is several days. I don't think the returning natives are being quarantined for that long in US or anywhere else.

Again, given that air traffic and other transportation modes have already been shut down, no new people are coming from Wuhan or China to DE now. The question is, how do we know that a person with Asian look is more lethal to FKK girls and customers than a person with non Asian look. And if the person with Asian look is dangerous to FKK girls and customers, is nt that person also dangerous to everyone else in DE, not just in the club? Ergo, extending this logic, we should round up all people of Asian look from DE and deport them or quarantine them? And other countries such as US, UK etc follow the same logic?

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2418234]Bravo KingOfBongo! You hit the nail right on the head. I totally agree with your comment.

Kissing as many different girls as possible is good for your health because shared germs actually boost your immune system. By swapping spit, your fkk girl introduces you to bacteria you may encounter later on, making you more equipped to ward off future infections. Kissing also forms a similar mix of living bacteria in your and your girl's body, which makes you both better prepared to deal with similar infections. I am citing the article in the link below.

[URL]https://www.mensjournal.com/adventure/kissing-helps-boost-your-immune-system/[/URL]

I am a sex athlete and kissing / sexercise with FKK girls is an integral part of my health regimen. Marathon kissing and sex sessions help to build my stamina, muscle strength, and flexibility. I have engaged in 3-hour non-stop penetrating sex sessions with Annabel (DE) of GT Bruggen, Alessia ex Elexandra (RO) of Globe, Erika (RO) of Globe, Serena (RO) of Sharks, Marianna (RO) of GT Bruggen, to name a few. Kissing and sexercise make me stronger than ever.

Same like you KingofBongo, I never got flu, only some very mild colds at most.[/QUOTE]Perhaps not 100 % sure but it could be true that you improve your immune system.

Girls also kisses me very much (not asking especially) and I also practice regularly sport every week such as running, bicycle and swimming (2 hours minimum).

And I am almost never catch any disease; so far.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2417833]Probably clubs, girls and punters are better safe than sorry, by banning all Asians for now. Imagine one single case of Coronavirus infection thru an FKK in the news. All FKKs will suffer serious downturn of all customers, not just Asians.

CDC tells travelers to avoid China in expanded travel warning as coronavirus spreads ([URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/cdc-tells-travelers-to-avoid-china-in-expanded-travel-warning-as-coronavirus-spreads.html[/URL]).[/QUOTE]I am not a national of any Asian nations.

I am here to champion the import of clear and objective thinking. We should not allow fear and / or bigotry to corrupt our clear and objective minds.

The Coronavirus primarily affects the residents of Wuhan area in China. The Chinese government already put this entire area under quarantine.

There are a lot of nations in the vast continent of Asia. With the exception of China, other Asian nations have had very minimal exposure to the Coronavirus, just like the US, Australia, or European nations.

Therefore, the call to ban the nationals of all Asian nations just doesn't pass the "clear and objective" test.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2418589]I am not a national of any Asian nations.

I am here to champion the import of clear and objective thinking. We should not allow fear and / or bigotry to corrupt our clear and objective minds.

The Coronavirus primarily affects the residents of Wuhan area. The Chinese government already put this entire area under quarantine.

There are a lot of nations in the vast continent of Asia. With the exception of China, all nations in Asia have had very minimal exposure to the Coronavirus, just like the US, Australia, or European nations. Therefore, the call to ban the nationals of all Asian nations just doesn't pass the "clear and objective" test.[/QUOTE]Right now, the top 10 countries with infected cases are:

China,

Japan,

Thailand,

Singapore,

Hongkong.

Australia,

Taiwan,

Malaysia,

Macau,

South Korea.

90% of this list is Asian countries, not only China. Even the cases in Australia, Europe and USA could have been avoided if the governments had banned those Asian careers of infections earlier. Who just today declared it a "Global Health Emergency". Italy now has a cruise ship with 6000 people in quarantine. Google and Tesla closed all offices / factories in China.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2418600]Right now, the top 10 countries with infected cases are:

China,

Japan,

Thailand,

Singapore,

Hongkong.

Australia,.[/QUOTE]The discussion is not about whether travel should be cut off from and to China (it has been) and quarantine should be in place (it is).

You are advocating a differential admission policy to people *already* in Germany and at the club door step based solely on their ethnicity look. If they pose a threat to FKK girls and fellow customers, they also pose a threat to the general society if they are roaming around train stations, grocery stores, restaurants, movie theaters, etc. So, if you are really a believer in your policy, all people in DE, US, ND, other places who have an Asian look should be quarantined and rounded up (until a vaccine develops or they are found to be having no infection after quarantine of an appropriate amount of time).

Why would you justify an admission denial at the club but would allow them to roam around free in society? Just curious.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2418600]Right now, the top 10 countries with infected cases are:

China,

Japan,

Thailand,

Singapore,

Hongkong.

Australia,

Taiwan,

Malaysia,

Macau,

South Korea.

90% of this list is Asian countries, not only China. Even the cases in Australia, Europe and USA could have been avoided if the governments had banned those Asian careers of infections earlier. Who just today declared it a "Global Health Emergency". Italy now has a cruise ship with 6000 people in quarantine. Google and Tesla closed all offices / factories in China.[/QUOTE]There are about 50 nations in the vast continent of Asia. Please see the full list of Asian nations in the link below.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_countries_by_area[/URL]

Many nations on this list have NOT even had any case of coronavirus infections.

Therefore, the call to ban the nationals of all Asian nations is just absurd. It fails to pass the test of clear and objective thinking.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2418600]Google and Tesla closed all offices / factories in China.[/QUOTE]BMW in China also extended new Lunar year holiday for thousands of its assembly workers. Only office workers remain in low numbers but working from home. I agree with the points of your concern, Gino. Spoke to a girl today. She is nervous and acutely aware of the current situation. I did not bring up the subject, she did.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2418265]Exactly. [URL]https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51293038[/URL].

Quarantined even in football games where no kissing or BBBJ involved! And here some of our senior members are arguing in favor of not putting Asians in quarantine in FKKs.[/QUOTE]Virus problem is in China which don't say the truth, not in whole Asia, not in Japan nor Korea. Better to know there are risks in brothels.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2418634]There are about 50 nations in the vast continent of Asia. Please see the full list of Asian nations in the link below.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_countries_by_area[/URL]

Many nations on this list have NOT even had any case of coronavirus infections.

Therefore, the call to ban the nationals of all Asian nations is just absurd. It fails to pass the test of clear and objective thinking.[/QUOTE]Actually, the biggest flaw in Gino's argument is that he wants to ban them at the door of the FKK. If any person is truly infected, s / he should be stopped well before coming inside the country. Gino can argue that it is only FKK that we care about, but from the larger society pov, any infected person passes through airport, and perhaps a train station and could have been in grocery stores, restaurants, shops and malls, and so many other spaces. He could be infecting dozens of people who in turn will come into clubs unknowingly and infect the girls.

Say, a week ago, an Asian dude and a white dude traveled from Shanghai to DE. The Asian dude had been in Shanghai for the last entire year. The white dude had some business in Wuhan for a week in mid Jan, then came to Shanghai, and then flew to DE in the same flight. They both slipped into DE just before this virus became such global news, but of course early infections broke out in December itself. So, it is possible the white dude was infected but he is not yet showing any symptoms.

These 2 guys and another Asian dude who had been working in Stuttgart for the last 2 years show up at Sharks. Gino would send the two Asian dudes back and let in the white dude who may be a infected carrier. Somehow, I guess this makes sense to Gino?

6 from USA, 6 from France, and 5 from Germany infected which is more than most of the Asian countries that you want to ban. Should we ban all Americans, French, and Germans from FKKs now too? If not now, what number is the breaking point where we should consider banning these nationalities from FKK clubs? As someone else posted pretty sure it won't be a monger traveling from Wuhan that will cause an outbreak in FKK clubs rather a local German or French person. How many Asian guys have you met from Wuhan in Germany? That's what I thought.

Hopefully you aren't suggesting banning all Asians who are say 3rd generation Americans and have no association with people from China at all other than maybe going to a Chinese restaurant. Maybe we should ban all Europeans who have any business dealings with China at all, either they go to China or Chinese businessmen travel to Europe? Why don't we just shut down all FKK clubs? Places like Sharks would suffer severely without Chinese or Japanese anyways.

Hi guys,

New member here from the sex prison across the pond. I'm an Asian but born and raised in USA, and planning for my first ever FKK trip in February. With all the discussions and fear about the Coronavirus all over the news and here too, will it be wise for me to keep my trip in February or should I postpone it for a few months later? Last thing I want is that after spending on flights and hotels, find out that the FKKs are not allowing Asians, or even worse I get stopped at the German immigration, like US Trump Government just started today. Even if I can get in Oase or Palace or Sharks, will the women agree to go to room with me? Thank you all for this great forum and your advises.

[QUOTE=AsianDaddy;2418911]Hi guys,

New member here from the sex prison across the pond. I'm an Asian but born and raised in USA, and planning for my first ever FKK trip in February. With all the discussions and fear about the Coronavirus all over the news and here too, will it be wise for me to keep my trip in February or should I postpone it for a few months later? Last thing I want is that after spending on flights and hotels, find out that the FKKs are not allowing Asians, or even worse I get stopped at the German immigration, like US Trump Government just started today. Even if I can get in Oase or Palace or Sharks, will the women agree to go to room with me? Thank you all for this great forum and your advises.[/QUOTE]I have no idea if you will or won't face problems at the doors getting in or from girls or even fellow patrons who might get aggressive out of fear and ignorance. If I were you, I would cut out all non essential travel not just to FKKs but any travel in general. Why risk any hassle during the travel, at the entry back into US or in the plane or anywhere else.

Play safe. You waited a lifetime to go there. Make it stress free, drama free and a pleasant experience.

US quarantines 195 American evacuees from China in California Air Base for 14 days ([URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/health/quarantine-coronavirus.html[/URL]).

What do you suggest Germany in general, and FKKs specifically should be doing for health safety now?

[QUOTE=AsianDaddy;2418911]Hi guys,

New member here from the sex prison across the pond. I'm an Asian but born and raised in USA, and planning for my first ever FKK trip in February. With all the discussions and fear about the Coronavirus all over the news and here too, will it be wise for me to keep my trip in February or should I postpone it for a few months later? Last thing I want is that after spending on flights and hotels, find out that the FKKs are not allowing Asians, or even worse I get stopped at the German immigration, like US Trump Government just started today. Even if I can get in Oase or Palace or Sharks, will the women agree to go to room with me? Thank you all for this great forum and your advises.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the forum.

First off, your Asian American (US Citizen) therefore I'm assuming you have an American Passport so I think you should go to Germany without hesitation. You also have not indicated whether you traveled to China and or the Wuhan area or encountered individuals who have recently traveled to said affected area or encountered any infected individual (s). Therefore, you don't have any medical reason not to travel.

Now it seems like you either have not booked your plane / hotel yet due to you indicating you can postpone your trip for a few months so really when you want to go is up to you. In fact, your only wavering based on your Asian look. Don't buy into the so-called fear and ignorance of other spouting banning Asian guys or closing the clubs outright or certain Asian customers of which bring significant revenue to said clubs. German immigration should not stop or detain you since you are American with a US Passport, I do not see any justification for the stop and if so they may just ask if you traveled to China with in a certain time frame.

Also, women do ultimately decide with whom they want to go with but at the same time they are there for the $dollars $. If your properly groomed and healthy you should not really experience any issue. Again, you're an Asian American if you do experience any issues it will only be due to fear and ignorance of your look only.

Go and have a good time and report back with reports of your travels, the good and the bad.

Coronavirus: US and Australia close borders to Chinese arrivals.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51338899[/URL]

I hope Germany and Europe countries follow, if that happen then anyone who passes the Europe border should be allowed in FKK land.