Medellin Reports

But USA women may not be a good standard for this. Again, very good post. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1594130]There was a lot of dubious stuff in his post.

"In SA generally, there are very few girls who are sophisticated and good at conversations. In comparison to the girls in OECD countries, Very small percentage of the girls know politics, economy, art, history, etc. Also, very small percentage of the girls are good athletes. They may be attractive to old mongers for short time actions, but they could be pretty boring partners for serious date."

A country like Chile, for instance, is both in SA AND also an OECD country.

I don't think most guys come to a monger site to find foreign women that want to discuss politics. The people are passionate about things like politics. There is a lot of art and culture in Colombia. Culturally, if you like things like Salsa music you can relate to the people. Anyone that has an ethnocentric view of Colombia, should stay home and chat politics with the feminist nazis in their country.

Women in Colombia know their role. Go to the gym or walk along Avenida Poblado on a Sunday, if you want to see fit chicas. I don't know the percentage that have a regular exercise regimens, but there are a lot of fat women in the USA, a country where people tend to have more money and resources to engage in such regiments. Also, not every monger is a great physical specimen. As far as boring partners for a "serious date," boring people usually tend to get bored.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1594097]

For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality. They come in small groups and helps to have a wingman with you. You would end up buying drinks for her girl friends and some nights will be a bust. The key word in BS0's post is semi pro. By definition, P4 P is not guaranteed with a semi pro as she will have to choose you also. It can be a blast of fun if you can score. A lot depends on your skill set, personality, language and most importantly...; Money.

[/QUOTE]The original poster asked if it was true that there where SW's in Parque Lleras. I said "NO" thinking the guy was asking about Street Walkers. Brazilsoccoreo replies that Parque Lleras is full of street workers (whatever that is) and then goes on to describe how someone would go on to proposition women in the Park. Jajaja.

Now you are telling guys that you need an A game with charming personality to score women at Parque Lleras. Which is more accurate but certainly doesn't describe a situation where women came there looking to exchange sex for money.

Now if someone wants to randomly proposition women in the street I would look at the list of barrios that Brazilsoccero listed in his post and go there not to Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1594097]

For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality.[/QUOTE]That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun!

"They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste. ".

From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine.

(2) Russia.

(3) Sweden.

(4) Italy.

(5) Argentina.

(6) Japan.

(7) Brazil.

(8) Colombia.

(9) Venezuela.

(10) China.

Though I would replace china with Iran. Again, it's just a taste, nothing to be personal or angry.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1594166]"They are not bad looking, and a few of them look gorgeous. But in any countries, there will be some beautiful ladies. Probably, this is a matter of taste. ".

From my travels my rating of the ten countries with the most beautiful women worldwide is as follows, starting with the most beautiful:

(1) Ukraine.

(2) Russia.

(3) Sweden.

(4) Italy.

(5) Argentina.

(6) Japan.

(7) Brazil.

(8) Colombia.

(9) Venezuela.

(10) China.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=WorldWideScout;1594035]

I also read that there are SWs in Parque Lleras, they're just disguised as civilians. If that's true, I wonder what they charge?

[/QUOTE]Yeah, I heard that also. Been there a dozen times or more and never got the slightest inclination that any of the woman there were looking for Johns.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1594097]Yes you do need to read further back on this thread. Read the Medellin lists thread also, especially for casa info. Some guys were getting tired of the silly off topic discussions that tend to happen on this this thread and started posting reports over there (not me).

For SWs is Parque Lleras read Brazilsoccer0's post 5 posts down. I agree with him but know that you need an A game with charming personality. They come in small groups and helps to have a wingman with you. You would end up buying drinks for her girl friends and some nights will be a bust. The key word in BS0's post is semi pro. By definition, P4 P is not guaranteed with a semi pro as she will have to choose you also. It can be a blast of fun if you can score. A lot depends on your skill set, personality, language and most importantly...; Money.[/QUOTE]Thanks!! Saw BSO's post. Makes sense. Sounds like fun, but will need a sure thing if I strike out LOL! Looks like I'll be in Laureles / Estadio and will have to take the train into la candelaria (where it seems all the casas and sws are).

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1594167]Though I would replace china with Iran. Again, it's just a taste, nothing to be personal or angry.

.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the average Iranian woman looks like.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1594156]That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Solid post, Ricker. Good detail.

I agree with the 3 areas mentioned above as the main areas for streetwalkers. I am not a fan of streetwalkers. If I were forced into doing streetwalkers I would rank the Mayo at the top and El Centro at the bottom. There are lots of nonpro girls that can be hit on in El Centro, but that is not the same as streetwalkers. There is some grey area here but I hope you guys can make the distinction.

This is what is happening here. Guys stay in El Poblado. They hear about Parque Lleras as a place to get something to eat. They hear Parque Lleras mentioned often on a sex forum. They see all these people walking around. More importantly they see all of these hot girls. Why not try to talk to them and see what happens? I know this because I was one of you guys 3 years ago. I didn't hit on the upper class girls, though, and proposition them for money on my first few trips. I was friendly, enjoying the interactions. I then left Parque Lleras and went into the city for P4P. I encourage you guys to do the same. Don't forget that many of you new guys can't communicate well, putting you into a near impossible situation. I think this is the stupid that Ricker is alluding to.

I agree with BrasilSoccer that many of these girls have accepted money for sex, no doubt. But for a guy, on one of his first few trips, to try and pick up girls in Lleras? Especially considering Lleras is a place where people are waiting to take advantage of tourists who don't know what is going on around them. Same goes for LA 70 in Laureles.

I want to be at the advantage of being in an environment that I understand with hopefully a sweet, unjaded girl. In Lleras you guys don't see the angles and many of the people you are talking to can see the angles. Disadvantage. Be smarter than the average foreigner and don't hit on the girls in these areas. Use this area as a place to decompress and view the girls as people, or artwork, and not girls to have sex with.

My advice is to be friendly and make connections with the culture at large. Be polite and nice to everyone you meet. Be charming but firm with the working girls.

Good luck to some of you new guys on your first trips.

[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1594168]Yeah, I heard that also. Been there a dozen times or more and never got the slightest inclination that any of the woman there were looking for Johns.[/QUOTE]+1 I have not seen SW in Lleres. I have seen known working girls out on "dates" with johns all the time. Woka seems to be popular with them.

I heard there was a place one one of the side st that used to let working girls in there but they might have closed or changed names.

The last possible reason why they might be in the area is hard to believe but it's true. These girls are actual people so they might be out with their girlfriends just having a good time.

Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?

The girl must be stunning.

She can not be stupid (which makes this project impossible, no offensive paisas de Manrique, but God is a cynical basterd). She must be able to grow mentally, way above what is requiered in the "barrio" life, socializing with amiga, mama, tia, sobrina, prima.

Good English, or must be able to learn English (also a rare ability if it means that the person must be able to navigate in an Anglo-Saxon community's everydaylife without major communication problems).

Where do I find the girls of estrato 4-6, (where 6 is the highest social class) ? They are not available at Internets Colombiancupid, Latineuro or Amolatina. Are they splinging around the Centro Comercial like; Olviedo, Plaza Premium or El Tesoro?

Kickboxer means that the non-pro scene is a different world. The girls are in general stunning. But which are the clubs, discos, restaurants, cafe's where they are promoting themselves?

Yes it business for me. It already is for this kind of girls. I / we must take the same stand. The better looks and manner your Trophy Wife has, the more respect and impression of success you will give among business people, especially in a latino comunity.

Trophy Wife is the long-term P4 P / prepago. The same principle rules.

After paying for your wife's monthly expenses you can continue the mongering as usual. It is 100% normal. Just don't ever mention it to her, even if she clearly understand what you are up to.

In Medellin a Anglo-Saxon guy rise up 5 points on the social scale which gives ordinary nice guys a fair chance to catch a Dreamgirl.

Anyway. I promised a report. I'm on day #3 of day 7. And I got to say, this is not looking like a mongering trip. But something else.

So I arrived late Friday night. Found a nice place in poblacdo which was 65 bucks and included a pool, gym, and kitchen. Decent HQ. Owner of rental said you can have guests just no crazy parties and bbqs. Ok.

So as I mentioned, I met girls on a video web site. This site has about maybe 500-1000 people on, and about 20-30 from Colombia. Rough estimates. I found out later that the girls tend to block people with IP sites from Colombia. THe web site is a porn site. Only 1. Maybe 2 girls on same channel. No intercourse. Just strip, masturbate, on cams. You pay them tokens. Whatever. Pretty hot girls from all over the world, so it was really the only site I went to when was bored and horny LOL. But about 1-2 days before my trip to Colombia, I thought. Maybe I should get in contact with the Medellin girls before the trip. So the Medellin girls I saw on the site are hot. Models. I chat witth them. Tell them I'm going to Medellin, send them a pic of me. And they get a little more interested. They give their numbers. I add them on whatsapp or viber. So far I have personally met 2 of the girls. One of them gave me their facebook page, so I scoured the page. Legit. Girl is 20 something, has a kid. But hot! I never mentioned anything about sex. Just asked about Medellin, where to hang out. She says we should meet. But warns me. "I'm not prepago, OK? Basically, she makes her money from the website. She lost her prior job, left her husband because of domestic abuse and is supporting her kid. The funny thing is. I see her on the web site, chat with her, flirt etc. And I log into a different room on the same web page and see another girl. I start flirting with her at the same time. But then realize that they are playing the same music in both rooms. Shit, they work in the same studio and know each other. And pretty soon they are comparing notes and realize they are chatting with the same guy. Regardless, the first girl was cool with it, and I kinda backed off her friend because I don't need drama (although her friend has added me on FB and we message periodically. NOt sure if she is testing me. Or what).

I hung out with girl 1 (blonde hottie) a couple days now. She hasn't asked me for a cent. We had sex. But yeah, I pay for dinner, took her paragliding (60 bucks) and she takes me the local joints where I'm the only to foreigner. And plenty of GFE. I know girls are manipulative, and they have ulterior motives. But I figured as long as you are aware of it, you play along and have fun. First night, dance, party, drink. Great time, and sex! Next day, she got pretty sick with the paragliding. Vomitted and looked like shit. So I sent her home to rest and recuperate. But I txt the other girl #3 I met. She has no kids. Age young 20's. She is out with 4 friends at a bar, asked me to join them. I did. Got drunk with aguaardiente, had a blast, met some nice people. One was a medical student who was wasted, and the other an owner of a bar. No sex tonight, the girl wanted to go home and sleep it off, but asked to hang out tomorrow. I really had a blast and was pretty buzzed. Its 2 am Sunday. Contemplated about maybe doing some strip club (FASE 2?) fun. But I thinking. Sunday, hmmm. Maybe dead. So I'm calling it a night and saving energy for next day. Now 3 girls messaging me. Kinda wondering who I'm in contact with. But I play it off.

So Monday. Not sure what is in store. I might finally hit the casas. Check it out. Wanted to do some biking / treking. May bring one of the girls I met (good company, GFE, and fun). And Like I said, NONE has asked me for money. Yet I guess. But just like dating. You are spending money in other ways.

But Medellin is the bomb. Girls are hot. Waitresses and bartenders are sweet and flirtatious. Between the drive from the mountains (paragliding) back to el Poblado, we drove through near el centro and I saw some appealing street walkers.

Enen.

I love it. THanks for the 411. Being latin American, I realize that latinas are for me. I was married to an eastern Indian-American woman for a while. Now divorced. Happily. I can see myself marrying a south American woman. In the distant future, after plenty of fun and mischief is done.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1594294]Where is the best place to look for a Trophy Wife in Medellin?
.[/QUOTE]EAFIT. You must speak excellent Spanish.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1594156]That's funny, really.

Now you're going to have more gringos in Medellin, and specifically Parque Lleras looking stupid.

Maybe a dude like Brazilsoccer has the eye to spot and the personality to talk PFP in Lleras, however, really it's not good advice to brag and send guys there looking for PFP, especially SW type.

Hell yes, head to Lleras, meet girls, schmooze away, pick a Paisa up if ya can, but don't just don't propose PFP like it's the norm, unless you don't mind offending.

The actual SW's, as we all know, hang in el Centro, San Diego area, the Mayo.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Ha ha. My point is the same. If you are good looking, charming manners, speak the language and willing to invest time and money, you can pick up women anywhere. PL, included. I only have three out of those five so I never waste my time looking for them at Parque Lleras. If you read between the lines, I was trying to discourage the poster from doing so.

[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1594323]EAFIT. You must speak excellent Spanish.[/QUOTE]Or instead of trying to turn a Latina into a white girl, go to the USA and get you a fat Anglo Saxon female who is educated to your liking. Maybe after Gastric Bypass and a few years on Jenny Craig, she will even be your Trophy Wife.