American Politics

Way to go, Donny-boy. I see your infamous Midas Touch In Reverse for business and USA Household Wealth is still fully functional even when you are only pissing on the USA Constitution from the campaign trail.

[B]Nasdaq Slides as Chip Stocks Sell Off
Nvidia, TSMC and other semiconductor heavyweights fall.
July 17, 2024
Trump's Taiwan Comments Fuel TSMC Selloff.[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp500-nasdaq-live-earnings-07-17-2024/card/trump-s-taiwan-comments-fuel-tsmc-stock-selloff-jCO4IsuWjpYQdRD7jKUt[/URL]

And the stock market is definitely not liking all this buzz about a potential 2nd Trump term:

[B]Nasdaq falls for a second day as tech exit continues, Dow loses 400 points.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/17/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]This shift away from tech came to a head on Wednesday, when the Nasdaq tumbled 2.8% in its worst day since December 2022. Wednesday also marked the first session since 2001 where the Nasdaq posted a loss exceeding 2.5%, while the blue-chip Dow registered a gain.

But Thursdays sell-off appeared broader than tech alone. All but one of the 11 sectors that comprise the S&P 500 traded lower, while more than two out of every three Dow members also headed for losses. Even the small-cap focused Russell 2000, which has run up amid expectations for forthcoming interest rate cuts, dropped close to 2%.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2930839][b]Oh, there was another update before bedtime [/b]

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/[/URL]

There has been another update on the above 538 site for tonight.

Biden's Chances of Winning have increased to 54 out of 100 vs Trump's 46 and his Electoral College Vote projection improved to 278 vs 260 for Trump.

Just passing it along to anyone into this whole polls thingy. Which seems to be everyone in the Media, the Repub Party and for sure the Dem Party lately.[/QUOTE]

Yet another great update! [b]Please keep them coming!!![/b]

While Repubs, are flexing again in MSM [i](where they do most of "their winning"...kkkk!)[/i], for yet another [i][b]"red wave"[/b][/i], your updates suggest otherwise, with just another [i][b]"pink trickle"[/b][/i] at the ballot-box.

And for those who haven't figured it out yet...elections are WON at the BALLOT-BOX!

[b]FUN FACT: [/b]Repubs, have [b]NEVER[/b] won the popular vote at the ballot-box, in 20 years and [u]ONLY ONCE[/u] in 36 years.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2930851]"The USA Secret Service failed. That Donald Trump is alive today is only a result of sheer luck a bullet that missed by less than an inch, a head tilt at the right split second. But make no mistake, the fact that an aspiring assassin was able to get to an elevated position within an easy shot of the former president and leading candidate to be the next president is a stunning failure of an agency whose primary mission is to protect the president.

Let us also not forget that in addition to a bullet grazing Trump's ear, there were multiple casualties Corey Comperatore, a firefighter who died heroically shielding his family from bullets, and two others who were seriously injured.

In the aftermath of the shocking event on Saturday, many questions have been raised about the response. Why didn't the counter-sniper team take out the shooter before he fired a shot? Why didn't they respond more quickly as spectators frantically drew police attention to the suspicious man crawling on the roof? Why did they let Trump continue speaking once this threat was identified? Why didn't they whisk him away sooner in case there was a second assassin?

More on.

SECRET SERVICE.

Secret Service Director Suggests Roof Used by Shooter Was Too Dangerous for Agents to Stand On.

Shocking Trump-Rally Failure Highlights Secret Service Recruiting Issues, Diversity Distractions.

Sheriff Confirms Local Cop Encountered Would-Be Trump Assassin on Rooftop before Shooting.

These are all fair questions, but each one of them can be answered by some variation of explaining a breakdown in communication or imperfect responses in real time. The one question that was most perplexing from the day of the shooting was, how did the Secret Service allow a would-be assassin to get so close to the president, just 150 yards away a shot that wouldn't be too difficult for anybody with basic training in looking through the scope of a rifle and pulling a trigger? Why wasn't somebody posted on the roof when that could have been arranged in advance?

At first, some of the explanations that came out were that the Secret Service had outsourced to local police the responsibility for securing the locations outside the gates where the crowd was let in in other words, the area outside the heavily secured area. And there were questions about whether a lack of resources was the issue and the team was spread too thin to post somebody on the roof.

But on Monday, it emerged that in fact multiple law-enforcement officers were inside the building at the time of the shooting. Meaning there wasn't a shortage of personnel they just were not posted on the roof.

Then, in an interview with ABC News that aired Tuesday, Kimberly Cheatle, the director of the Secret Service, made an extraordinary revelation.

"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point," Cheatle said. "And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside. "

This makes no sense, on multiple levels. For one, the would-be assassin (a slight-looking 20-year-old with no evidence of any sort of combat training) managed to scale the building and get off multiple shots at Trump. Secondarily, the counter-sniper who ultimately took out the shooter was posted on a sloped roof.

There is simply no excuse for a stunning failure that, but for a stroke of luck or act of God, would have ended up with Trump's death, and all of the political and social turmoil that would have come with it.

Despite this incredible dereliction of duty, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas declared, "I have 100 percent confidence" in Cheatle.

As for Cheatle herself, she tried to act accountable in her ABC interview, claiming, "The buck stops with me. " But if those words are to have any meaning, there is only one move that she can make. Kimberly Cheatle must resign immediately and be replaced by somebody who can do the job competently. ".[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is getting worse and worse. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=439Ub1JFJD4[/URL].

I think these Dems permitted the shittiest SS crew in of all time. Apparently, the A team was guarding Dr. Jill. Can you imagine what would have happened if the shooter got Trump? We would be in a fucking civil war. This is gross negligence, and Biden or whoever the fuck is running things is putting up with this shit. But these Democratic douches are not going to fire anyone because deep down they wanted this to happen.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2930963]Scumbag Joe looks worse then ever-- I think if he does not step down he will croak in the next couple weeks Or croak either way- We won't know if it was natural or if the CIA done it.

In any case at least he shall burn in hell-.[/QUOTE]Well -- so now the CIA won't be sprinkling Pixie Death dust on Biden's toothbrush-- But I still think he will croak and go to hell in the next month or so.

In philosophy there's a problem called theodicy. If God is omnipotent, omniscient and good, why does he allow evil in the world? The toned-down political version of this is simple: If God is omnipotent, omniscient and good, why is he doing everything he can to re-elect Donald Trump?

It's remarkable. First, he inspired President Biden to overstimulate the economy, leading to inflation and discrediting the Biden domestic policy in the eyes of many voters. Then he inspired Democrats to run the televised Jan. 6 hearings, which was a noble civic responsibility but a political distraction. That's not what key swing voters are most concerned about. Then Trump's main primary rival, Ron DeSantis, turned out to be a total stiff. Then prosecutors started indicting Trump, guaranteeing that he would win the Republican nomination. Then there was the avoidance of tragedy in Butler, Pa.

Then there was this week. This is the happiest, most united and most confident Republican convention I've ever been to. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party is imploding. Next week, we'll may very well learn that Trump is going to face Kamala Harris in the general election. The swing states are mostly in the Upper Midwest, and Trump will probably be running against a progressive from San Francisco.

The ways of the Lord are truly mysterious.

Of course human beings may have played a role. At his blog Marginal Revolution, the economist Tyler Cowen lists a number of reasons for the rightward shift in the political climate since 2020. The most crucial, I'the say, are these: The Trumpian right has been more intellectually creative than the progressive left. The Trump message resonates better with today's deeply pessimistic culture. The deindustrialization of America has had decades-long social effects. People don't want to be ruled by the intellectual class, whether under Barack Obama or Biden. What we call woke-ism is really unpopular. The Biden age cover-up damages Democratic credibility and undermines the party's claims of moral superiority (INFERIORITY).

Of course Trump himself may have played a role in his success. Over the past year he has performed acts of showmanship that were remarkably effective, even for him. He turned a mug shot into a propaganda win and an assassination attempt into an iconic image of defiance. But here are a few things that I, at least, did not expect from Trump. He chose two veteran campaign managers in Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita and he's doing what they tell him to do. He's leading a campaign operation that is far more disciplined and professional than his White House was.

He has mostly shut up and lain low as the Democratic campaign falls apart. He has suppressed his bellicose, nasty nature and smiled benignly as his daughter-in-law and granddaughter portray him as a kindly grandpa.

Most important, he has shifted the entire governing philosophy of the Republican Party. His campaign aggressively controlled the platform, moving it in a populist direction. The campaign softened the party's abortion stance, which I would have thought impossible. Trump also made the right vice-presidential pick. Business types like Doug Burgum and Glenn Youngkin would have undercut his populist message while putting people to sleep.

Many of the delegates I have spoken to once cheered lustily for the free-market gospel of Mitt Romney and the aggressive internationalism of John McCain. On Wednesday night they were won over by J. The. Vance, who ripped into both those worldviews. The delegates are still not completely where Trump is. On Monday night, the Teamster boss Sean O'Brien addressed the convention, lashing out at corporate greed. Afterward I was walking down the stairs to exit the arena when I overheard a delegate complaining: "Couldn't he have mentioned small business at least once?" This is still somewhat a business owner's party.

In retrospect the last decade has been a race between rival populisms — the left-wing kind personified by Bernie Sanders and the right-wing kind, personified by Trump and Vance. The right-wing kind has won.

Even for those of us who detest the man, it's kind of impressive. We've learned, probably too late, not to underestimate Trump.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2931171]In philosophy there's a problem called theodicy. If God is omnipotent, omniscient and good, [b]why does he allow evil in the world? The toned-down political version of this is simple: If God is omnipotent, omniscient and good, why is he doing everything he can to re-elect Donald Trump?[/b]

It's remarkable.
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Even for those of us who detest the man, it's kind of impressive. We've learned, [b]probably too late[/b], not to underestimate Trump.[/QUOTE]"probably too late".

LOL. What do you suppose Repub Brooks means by that? What does he think the dire consequences are of underestimating Trump's craftiness in improving his poll numbers until it is now "probably too late" to avert?

I thought Repubs like Brooks were supposed to be relieved that Trump's poll numbers are looking ok. But, no. "probably too late".

Too late to avert what?

I think you will find what he is referring to in his opening paragraph.

And in case you missed that clear and unambiguous message, here is another one from your beloved NYT:

[B]HE IS DANGEROUS IN WORD, DEED AND ACTION.

HE PUTS SELF BEFORE COUNTRY.

HE LOATHES THE LAWS WE LIVE BY.

DONALD TRUMP IS UNFIT TO LEAD[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/11/opinion/editorials/donald-trump-2024-unfit.html[/URL]#site-content.

That never would have happened if Biden had been there instead of Trump. Because snipers fear and respect Biden but not Trump.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2931141]Yeah, it is getting worse and worse. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=439Ub1JFJD4[/URL].

I think these Dems permitted the shittiest SS crew in of all time. Apparently, the A team was guarding Dr. Jill. Can you imagine what would have happened if the shooter got Trump? We would be in a fucking civil war. This is gross negligence, and Biden or whoever the fuck is running things is putting up with this shit. But these Democratic douches are not going to fire anyone because deep down they wanted this to happen.[/QUOTE]If Trump can't even keep himself and his cult followers safe at a little podunk farm town rally, how can anyone expect him to keep America safe from Iran?

BTW, in Trump's utterly loony, rambling, incoherent, nonsensical, Gish gallop lie fest on steroids, lackluster, tired, feeble, droning, boring Convention speech, he said he could "stop wars with a telephone call".

Why didn't he make that magical telephone call to stop the GW Bush War in Afghanistan for the entire 4 years, all 1460 days, of his miserable presidency?

Why didn't he bother to make that telephone call for 3+ hours to stop the Trump War Against America on American Soil, the NEW War he started as so-called president, being waged on his orders on January 6, 2021?

Did he misplace his phone all that time?

Despite Trump getting the typical "convention bounce", which, as is explained in the 538 Consensus Poll site, is generally temporary and partially reflects only who is responding to polls rather than actual electorate voting intentions, Biden has remained ahead of Trump in the Chances of Winning status, the Electoral College Votes projection (enough for Biden to win right now) and the Popular Vote:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/[/URL]

As usual, the contest is fluid and nobody is "kicking" anyone's ass. The Dem Convention will be interesting.

Meanwhile, the USA Stock Market did not respond well to all the "Rah Rah Trump and the Repubs" anti-business, economy-damaging, anti-America, anti-democracy Repub MAGA Lie Festivities going on this week:

[B]Dow drops more than 100 points, S&P 500 heads for worst week in 3 months[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/18/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2931017]Be careful what you ask for. Because you just might get it! Harris is polling ahead of Chump![/QUOTE]Let's Go Kamala!! So funny how people posting here are not in reality.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2931355]Let's Go Kamala!! So funny how people posting here are not in reality.[/QUOTE]You mean like that "107% of the new jobs are taken by Immigrants"?

Or that "Immigrants are killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens"? (That would mean Immigrants have committed every homicide in America for the past 9-10 years).

Or that "We had the greatest economy of all time, the greatest in the world before the China virus! Now we are in the worst economy! Biden is worse than the ten Worst President's in history"? (Aside from all known data proving Trump's 3 pre Trump's Pandemic years were below average compared with the 11 most recent presidents' economies and much, much worse than that considering he racked up record high deficits just to achieve "below average" numbers and Biden's economy outshines his and every other Repub in history, considering Trump is himself The Worst President in History, it is as mathematically impossible in reality for Biden to be worse than any group that includes Trump in it as it is to take "107%" of anything.).

And, oh, so much more.

And as I have not heard any meaningful push back in Mainstream Media on the blissfully easy to debunk outrageous lies about the economy under Trump vs Biden, we just hear them saying "Oh, that was the usual Trump rally speech. Nothing to see hear. Nothing to say about it. His base loved it", the great professor Allan Lichtman has finally come to the conclusion about typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's "Bothsiderism" serving no other purpose but to help disaster-prone Repubs win elections that I fully understood and have been observing at least since 1982:

[URL]https://youtu.be/S-hZeRQxA0g?si=3f_3OxdQLhAwLTVH[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2931094]Not much has changed on the 538 Consensus Poll Site since last night except that Michigan has now moved from Toss-Up to Lean Dem / Biden:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/[/URL]

Otherwise, Biden is still notably ahead of Trump on their Chances of Winning status (53 out of 100 vs 47 for Trump) and with a comfortable lead in the Electoral College Vote projection (276 vs 262 for Trump) and the Popular Vote (2. 5 point lead in that for Biden).

I am so looking forward to Trump's "less violent rhetoric" speech tonight where he apologizes profusely for putting so many cops, election workers and elected officials at deadly risk of attack, maiming, murder and assassination with the constant repetition of his Big Lie about Biden stealing the 2020 election, his near daily praising as "patriots" of the blood-thirsty numbskulls who fell for his horse shit and acted on it, as they did with Trump's Declaration of War Against America waged on American soil on January 6, 2021 and for almost every day of the past 3 1/2 years.

The country really needs to start healing from the historic damage he did to it.[/QUOTE]You really thought Trump would or should apologize LOL? Its one thing to support a Democratic candidate and agenda and I understand that. As long as Biden has a pulse, there will be people around him to run the country. I get that. But after Trump is shot, to think that he would or should apologize for him being shot at the RNC is the dumbest and one of the most inflammatory things I have ever read. To still be posting lies like "Trump declared War against America" on Jan. 6, after he has been shot, is foul, despicable, and wreaks of desperation. It is despicable to lie like that after his attempted assassination. People who lie like that and think it is ok to publicly state things like that on an open forum are without morals or any code of honor. In my eyes, they are not human, but something less and I am saddened my nation produced such individuals. I am saddened we live in a society where an adult has become so twisted, he could write such non-sense after the attempted assassination of a Presidential candidate.

I pray for you as an American that you develop some sense of right and wrong which transcends your politics.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2931500]You really thought Trump would or should apologize LOL? Its one thing to support a Democratic candidate and agenda and I understand that. As long as Biden has a pulse, there will be people around him to run the country. I get that. But after Trump is shot, to think that he would or should apologize for him being shot at the RNC is the dumbest and one of the most inflammatory things I have ever read. To still be posting lies like "Trump declared War against America" on Jan. 6, after he has been shot, is foul, despicable, and wreaks of desperation. It is despicable to lie like that after his attempted assassination. People who lie like that and think it is ok to publicly state things like that on an open forum are without morals or any code of honor. In my eyes, they are not human, but something less and I am saddened my nation produced such individuals. I am saddened we live in a society where an adult has become so twisted, he could write such non-sense after the attempted assassination of a Presidential candidate.

I pray for you as an American that you develop some sense of right and wrong which transcends your politics.[/QUOTE]You saw something in my post that, to you, had me expecting Trump to apologize "for being shot"? Please quote the exact passage where you thought I said that.

Uh. No. I said that IF he really meant the now known to be total bullshit he tried to peddle that his RNC speech was being rewritten to be "less violent" in rhetoric, then he should apologize to Joe Biden and the rest of the American people for inciting the assassination of, oh, his VP Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, MittWitt Romney, several other elected officials as well as deadly threats to several election workers, judges, juries, etc by way of his BIG LIE that Biden stole the 2020 election from him. A BIG LIE that he has not only repeated almost daily for the past 3 1/2 years but repeated AGAIN in his rambling, nonsensical, lie-filled, Loony rant at the RNC.

Oh, and to apologize for praising and glorifying the blood-thirsty wannabe assassins as "patriots" and "hostages" in his War Against America on American Soil that he declared and sent to battle on Capitol Hill.

I said nothing about him apologizing for getting shot at himself.

But, of course, it would have been a bonus pro American gesture on his part if Trump had also apologized for defunding and removing the Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 and 2019 contrary to expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid and thereby leaving America and the rest of the world bare-ass naked to Preventing his Pandemic from developing in the first place. I mean, considering that Trump economic and national security decision led directly to the deaths of a Million Americans, millions more people around the world, massive global economic destruction and virtually every digit of inflation that followed.

But his apologizing for his "violent rhetoric" in LYING about the 2020 election being stolen from him for several years was the most I was hoping for with his supposedly "softened" speech to bring "unity" to America at the RNC.

None of which happened. Maybe there was a glitch with the teleprompter.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2931500] The Level of Bias in this post is Hysterical [/QUOTE]Ram, this is only the latest example of balderdash from our learned left wing propagandist. But talking about hysterical, here is a video of his mentor's greatest hit. I am sure you will remember this clip. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ung95ORVUY[/URL].

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2931310]Despite Trump getting the typical "convention bounce", which, as is explained in the 538 Consensus Poll site, is generally temporary and partially reflects only who is responding to polls rather than actual electorate voting intentions, Biden has remained ahead of Trump in the Chances of Winning status, the Electoral College Votes projection (enough for Biden to win right now) and the Popular Vote:

As usual, the contest is fluid and nobody is "kicking" anyone's ass. The Dem Convention will be interesting.[/QUOTE]Loony Tooms, do you have some business where you are afraid you lose money if Republicans win? Is there at least some rationale as to why you are this crazy? Why do you have to post this mental masturbation versus anything factual?

In your fucked up world, how is it that you only attribute the fact that Trump is kicking Biden's ass to me? How does it not register with you when I show you the objective casino odds? Do you not believe those numbers are right? How do you blow off all the Democrats calling for Biden withdrawing and are left with me?

In fact, this was the results from your link, Trump wins 51 times out of 100 in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election. Biden wins 48 times out of 100.

Now the casino odds have varied but no one is giving Biden 48% odds. They have been in the 8 to 20% range since the debate. I said that 67% odds of Trump winning were about right. That does not mean Biden has 33% odds of winning though. I think Biden is more out than in. At this point, I think he is negotiating a golden parachute in the hundreds of millions if not billions to quit. If Trump now is at 67% and Biden is at 10%, the last 23% goes to the field.

The Democratic donors seem to be dominating things right now and are clueless as to the American Idol / Survivor show they are going to put on to pick a candidate. If at any time the whole notion of just Biden on the primary ballot was nauseating to the average voter, this show will be. The message sent to the Democratic voter is you are too stupid to know who is best. We tell you and you will vote accordingly. That message is going to IMO going to be more of a negative than any positive any candidate could bring, and a number of Democrats will sit at home.

I said 67% was right with Trump due to the unknowns. Trump could have a scandal or health issue. In fact, assassination is one of the things that was predicted and almost came true. So things can change, and it is the unknown that puts a Trump victory in the 60 to 70% range, but if the election was fair and was Trump v. Biden tomorrow, I think the odds should be 99% to Trump.

And if you look at the CNN projections, Trump wins even without Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB4vgAClHEk[/URL], you can start that clip at the 2 minute mark.

So hell yeah, Trump is kicking Biden's ass and it is getting worse by the day. Why do you think all the Democrats are freaking out? I just cannot even imagine what kind of bullshit lie you are telling yourself at this point.