Sao Paulo Reports

Visited Casarao again this Friday, where I shortly met with another ISG member. Unlike on my previous Friday visit, the place was already full of guys and girls at 12:30. More or less one guy to a girl, with most guys staring from a distance rather than engaging the girls. What an array of sexy female figures! Only a good German FKK can rival with this for the sheer "child in a toyshop" effect on a monger like me.

It's like the old days at Help disco in Rio, only here there's less dancing and more standing and ambling around. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.

[QUOTE=XXL;2710018]Visited Casarao again this Friday, where I shortly met with another ISG member. Unlike on my previous Friday visit, the place was already full of guys and girls at 12:30. More or less one guy to a girl, with most guys staring from a distance rather than engaging the girls. What an array of sexy female figures! Only a good German FKK can rival with this for the sheer "child in a toyshop" effect on a monger like me.

It's like the old days at Help disco in Rio, only here there's less dancing and more standing and ambling around. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.[/QUOTE]You are right:

1. SP 5 Star hotel prices are getting ridiculous unless you have amassed plenty hotel points and voucher night credits, but 4 star hotel prices are still in the reasonable camp. I managed to book the Renaissance for 6 nights, the Intercontinental for 6 nights, and the Hyatt for 4 nights all on points and vouchers for a part of my upcoming October visit.

2. There is no comparison in nightlife between SP & RJ. SP is world class. RJ is not IMHO. But RJ has urban beaches if that is your thing. I just spent 6 weeks in SP and 4 nights in RJ and I think that ratio is about right. 10 to 1 in favor of SP. On my next trip I am skipping RJ completely and instead I am taking my favorite Scandallo girl to Ihabela Island for 4 nights. If this little side trip goes well, I will take her up north to the dune beaches on my Spring trip.

I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?

Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?

I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061].... At twice the cost, how does Prime compare? .[/QUOTE]Your comparison is wrong. A more reasonable comparison is to compare Prime to Loutron, and it is better than Loutron. Loutron may have hotter girls but the service is very limited.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?

Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?

I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]A 25 difference? The price comparison seems insignificant. Can get at the clinicas GFE / pse for 50 usd. Never a charge to see the lineups. I never been to Medellin but seems like average service only is the standard there from my experience with Columbian girls.

If you like the mix of native south american (indigenous) with Afro, then Colombia is just great.

Brazil has all the rest of ethnicities of the entire world. So Brazil is better from my point of view and personal likes.

Downtown Medellin some 10 years ago, there were bars since 3 pm where you could have a beer and wild fuck for US $25.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?

Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?

I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2710018] .. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.[/QUOTE]I was there (Casarao) on Thursday night. Each girl I talked to opened with a price of 250 for a half hour and 350 for the hour.

I went with 2 girls that night, separately.

Each girl I ended up paying 300 for the hour, BBBJ included, plus the room cost.
Definitely negotiate a little. They both said yes to 300 for an hour in an instant. I’m thinking I could even ask for lower, but 300 seems fair for everyone.

Also, one of the girls I went with was telling me about her Euro namorado (boyfriend) that sends her money weekly.
She showed me their text messages professing love and saudades.
His contact name was Gringo, lol.
I asked her what she calls him in person, and she said, amor.
They have a nice Google translate love affair going.

Great time with each of the girls I sessioned with at Casarao.
Not looking for a girlfriend there though, lol.

I remember back 2002, my first trip to Brazil, crossing from Rio Branco (West) to Rio de Janeiro (East). It was election days and first time the leftist party with Lula as leader was about to win elections. In matter of days the Real lost 25% of the value compared to US $. It was great news for a traveler like me of course.

This year 2022 is also elections year and Lula is still the favorite to win. What I've heard during the last months: Brazil is now receiving lots of investment from many countries and that's the reason for the Real to keep from strong devaluation. So keep an eye on Octover 2022, the elections will take place 2th of octover. Not it's around are $5. 1 = 1 US $.

During the Lula years, the Real had the highest value ever. Are $1. 8 = 1 US $. So Brasil was super expensive!!

[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2708844]I read on this forum and is it really R50? Or R50 plus some amount for mandatory consumables?[/QUOTE]Some nights irlt was cheaoer like 30 or even 20 but communicating through staff was never easy. My TIM phone never had signal inside. 50 included at least one drink.

I hate sloppy seconds so as usual I popped my Sildenafil shortly after 11 am and soon was on my way to Alameda dos Guaramomis. I learned from the Uber driver that the funny street names in Moema (Guaramonis, Maracatins, Nhambiquaras etc.) were names of Indian tribes. Armed with this fresh knowledge, I entered Abbobora where things didn't look too bright as 3 other clients were already seated for the line-up, which they call "presentation" here. Indeed after the presentation (6 girls) I made to leave empty-handed when the front desk woman, who knows me as a frequent client, asked me "aren't you going to take any girl today?" For civility's sake I enquired whether Bebel could be got hold of. To my surprise she could, having just arrived and being still busy doing herself up.

Bebel was the girl who on a previous session had objected to my licking her pussy, on account of my stubble. This time, no stubble, no problem. She has the kind of physique I like. Tallish, small tits, roughly pear-shaped body, good booty. A further turn-on for me was her ass-cheeks: they stood well apart from each another. It turns me off when a woman's ass cheeks are pinched so that you have to prize them apart to see what's there.

In the taxi back to the hotel I pondered how easy it was in SP to have sex with sexy women (women who would hold their own in PornHub), and how lucky one was to be able to do so in the comfort of a first-world country (good internet, easy transportation, good food, temperate climate, lack of police hassle).

[QUOTE=XXL;2710018]I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job.[/QUOTE]I was beginning to think it was just me being out of luck, with everybody here saying they get BBBJ by default and had never had to discuss cover.

Damn, I so need to go back to Casarao.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2711012]During the Lula years, the Real had the highest value ever. Are $1. 8 = 1 US $. So Brasil was super expensive!![/QUOTE]I guess this was the golden years for the Brazilian and now it's golden years for us mongers!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2710471]
His contact name was Gringo, lol.
[/QUOTE]That's funny because when I went to Casarao and told my name, the receptionist didn't know how to spell it and put Gringo on the ticket. LOL.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?

Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?

I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]Okay, New Life MDE can't compare to Prime SP or any clinica in MDE vs SP. 1st) Girl quality, Prime is better but somewhat subjective to your taste. 2nd) Service, Prime is way better (No upcharge like BBBJ and such, it's pretty much the standard) and GFE. Facility? Prime is better, not some rundown motel looking joint in centro.

The downside with Prime? It's is always busy so the popular girls usually taken, but you can always walk 5-10 min to the next clinica, can you do that with New Life? No, you got to walk back to ground zero centro or take a cab to Laureles.

What about value? Not talking just New Life but overall clinicas MDE vs SP. Average in MDE is roughly 130 mil but majority won't do BBBJ / anal / rim, those are upcharge atleast 30-50 mil. SP is around 250 r but about 180 r if you post online gpguia with majority inc BBBJ and some might inc anal / rim and not to mention the girls in Brazil are more open to these than Col girls.

My humble opinion? Brazil is better than Colombia in term of service, value, and quality.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2712881]My humble opinion? Brazil is better than Colombia in term of service, value, and quality.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%.

Guys living in Colombia may do better than the average tourist but for visitors Brazil is the best.