Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1594869]
Keep in mind the other side of that sword; if you're TW is much younger or too hot for you (lets be honest guys) than you look foolish with TW not like a BOSS but the fool. People will think you're getting played, that she's only with you for your money (which in this case she is), it will make other people that you want to deal with uncomfortable. Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

[/QUOTE]Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us.

We both have friendly, outgoing personalities, so I think once people meet us together they see we fit well.

I've never been one to care what others, especially the bitter people are thinking.

It's really the best way to live IMO, because there's always someone saying something about something, blah, blah, blah, and I really don't care, because I'm happy, and they're usually not.

I'm never getting married again, and she knows it, so she'll never be a Trophy Wife, but a Trophy GF is good enough, LOL.

Life throws curve balls and sometimes it's a nice hanging one, and you need to take advantage of it while ya can.

Enjoy life amigos.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1594947]Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us.

We both have friendly, outgoing personalities, so I think once people meet us together they see we fit well.

I've never been one to care what others, especially the bitter people are thinking..[/QUOTE]Thank you for recognizing the validity of my argument. Always nice.

RE you vs TW. Intent.

You met a girl and hit it off. End of story. The rest (age, economics, ect) is just window dressing.

Dude wants to meet a girl and have a TW to use for x why and z.

The intent is what is important here.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1594947]I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

I'm never getting married again, and she knows it, so she'll never be a Trophy Wife, but a Trophy GF is good enough, LOL.

Life throws curve balls and sometimes it's a nice hanging one, and you need to take advantage of it while ya can.

Enjoy life amigos.[/QUOTE]My girlfriend hit me like a ton of bricks two years ago. I absolutely was not looking for this relationship. I didn't use the word "amor" for the first 3 months after meeting her.

Ricker, you would never tolerate a trophy wife. I can see it by the way you write. You wouldn't be around someone that would make you stick out. People would notice that you two are comfortable together and there would not be a problem. Sure, some people are going to look at you a little funny but you are going to minimize this by the way you conduct yourself.

I live in an area way out in west Laureles. The foreigners that I see out where I live make me proud. One place I see couples together is at The Los Molinos Mall. Again these guys look good and blend in.

The only area I notice the problem is in El Poblado and in Laureles around UPB and LA 70. Everywhere else I notice foreigners blending in with their spouses / girlfriends.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1594947]Amigo, you make some very good points.

I have to tell you though, I met this sexy, beautiful, younger latina american girl by chance a couple years ago, in the US.

I wasn't looking or really wanting a GF in the US, but she just hit me like a ton of bricks, LOL.

She's 20 plus years younger than me, an absolutely been fantastic for me!

We hang out all the time together, go on little trips / vacations, etc and though I may be wrong, I never feel that anyone is uncomfortable around us..[/QUOTE]What's the magic formula? Half your age + 7? Hahaha. I think that works, but you can probably go 1/3 your age + 8. As long as you are older than 30.

I been in the Asia and south America, and it's not unusual to see older men with younger women. I know a couple accomplished businessmen who are in their 50's. And they have gfs in 20's. Hot.

Will people in the USA look at you differently? Yes. Especially women and jealous men. But man if you are happy, do what makes you happy. Life is short. Remove the negative people from your life or minimize them.

"Stay thirsty my friends"dos equis commercial.

I have a girl with money issues that needs it fixed today. If you want a nonpro today and are willing to fork over 200 k pm me. If not let's not make this a big deal just ignore this post.

Hi Concarne,

I'm really interested in your success with Medellin lesbians. Can you tell us more about that?

I've approached lesbians knowing that they are so and eventually was just a disappointing experience. When I shared my experience with a local male friend, he told me don't waist your time, lesbians hate men. And I think there is some truth to that.

Anyhow, to answer your concern with paisas inviting you to their homes, have no worries. It's perfectly normal for them. I can speak from my experiences only! I had never felt I was being setup or endangered. My only problem was that the mother of one of the young ladies I was visiting was teaching her to smooch as much as possible from me and I eventually got tired and stopped going there.

Just use your common sense and, especially in your case, previous experiences to make a sound judgment.

[QUOTE=Concarne;1594925]Hey guys. Yet another trip in the pipeline. In a few weeks.

So in my last trip (I forget if I commented on this already) I found an unexpected source of fun in the lesbian bars. One in Barbacoa in particular. At any rate, I ended up doing a couple of checas there. It was one of those things that just happenned. I went there at the request of an amiga, ended up sitting there for a while as I like the music that was playing as well as absorb the scene both in the bar and in the "Calle de Pecado" Interesting and entertaining. Long story short I did a couple of girls I met there.

Well, I return home and thru facebook I keep in touch with a couple and connect with others. You know just some innocent chit chat. One of them I briefly met and drank with a little bit is super cute and funny. Not a paisa stunner to be sure but that girl next door quality. So chatting with her. Next thing you know she wants to do this and that go here and there. No surprises there as she is probably bored doing whatever it is she does on a daily basis (probably internet and hang around) and the foreigner guy may be able to provide some distraction by doing stuff she usually does not do.

My question is: she at some point insisted on picking me up at the airport and on visiting and hanging out with her family. I do not like being paranoid but I have been burned in Tijuana once and in BGT once (stories for another day). Is this a common thing with paisas or colombian girls? Or is this some kind of set up I must be super weary of?

Always so much more simple to do P4 P. Hahaha. BTW some fresh casa recs always welcome!

TIA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1594988]My girlfriend hit me like a ton of bricks two years ago. I absolutely was not looking for this relationship. I didn't use the word "amor" for the first 3 months after meeting her.

Ricker, you would never tolerate a trophy wife. I can see it by the way you write. You wouldn't be around someone that would make you stick out. People would notice that you two are comfortable together and there would not be a problem. Sure, some people are going to look at you a little funny but you are going to minimize this by the way you conduct yourself.

I live in an area way out in west Laureles. The foreigners that I see out where I live make me proud. One place I see couples together is at The Los Molinos Mall. Again these guys look good and blend in.

The only area I notice the problem is in El Poblado and in Laureles around UPB and LA 70. Everywhere else I notice foreigners blending in with their spouses / girlfriends.[/QUOTE]Sounds good amigo!

I think the best things in life happen when not expected!

I remember when I first visited Medellin years ago, staying at a place called Colombian Sweethearts.
The routine was selecting girls from their internet files, setting up meetings, almost like interviews, quickly became repetetive and boring.

I gave up on that after day 2 and just moved on to roaming the city, having fun and meeting on my on.
More relaxing and happy-go-lucky for sure.
The guys that show with up just a skeleton plan and just simply enjoy have the most fun IMO.

Have fun out there!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1595125]Sounds good amigo!

I think the best things in life happen when not expected!

I remember when I first visited Medellin years ago, staying at a place called Colombian Sweethearts.
The routine was selecting girls from their internet files, setting up meetings, almost like interviews, quickly became repetetive and boring.

I gave up on that after day 2 and just moved on to roaming the city, having fun and meeting on my on.
More relaxing and happy-go-lucky for sure.

The guys that show with up just a skeleton plan and just simply enjoy have the most fun IMO.

Have fun out there![/QUOTE]That's what I'm doing, Skelaton plan, go in with an open mind see what happened. I lined up a few chicas but it's not like I'm there going "what will our invitations looks like".

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1594922]It has nothing to do with women, look at the movie Wolf of Wall Street, Dicapro dropped his main girl that was with him before the money.

For a trophy wife, only to find out when he falls on hard times and lost millionaires, she left him in a hard beat. When your looking for a wife, don't look for eye candy.

You have to look for a women that is going to be there when your broke, sick and down on your luck. When your looking for a wife you have to think about the future!.

Will she be there for you when your down on your luck? She's eye candy for now, but what about 10-20 Years when her looks start to fade? She is not going to look like that.

Forever.[/QUOTE]Very well said! To go further, a "trophy wife" isn't likely to help you out in the business world. But a wife that is intelligent, educated, and decent looking (but not hot-looking) certainly could. Of course, your own intelligence and hard work will be much more important in the business world than whatever a spouse offers (unless her father is CEO of a major corporation).

I'm not sure if the original poster was being serious. If he actually were to find this type of women in Colombia, it would likely end up being a disaster for him.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1594869]I have to call shenanigans on a few of your points or arguments here bro. Forgive me but they are too glaring for me to let slide.

First: in Mede a Anglo-saxon guy raises up a nice guy 5 points on the social scale? No dude it does not. Go to Juan Valdez in Parque Lleres to watch and listen in to those sad sad sacks of gringos that live down there part / full time. They are mostly Anglo-Saxons and no TW or even hot girlfriends, just prepagos that come over every wed to fuck them and leave to be with their reals novios, esposos, and familias.

Just being a white guy does not cut it any more. Maybe in Asia there still is a strong novelty factor but Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, that ship has sailed. Being a normal white guy isn't enough anymore. Being a normal white guy with money and wiliness to spend / give it to a girl will move you up the scale like you said. Or you can be a brown, yellow, purple, green guy as long as you have money. Same story as it always was and will be. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Second: The hotter and smarter your trophy wife has the better it is for business? Especially in Latino Community? I don't even know where to begin on this one. A wife even a trophy wife is a partner in your entire world so yes she should be a help to you and not a hindrance.

Yes; If she's hot, smart, and charming then clearly this will reflect on you in the most positive of ways in social or networking situations. If she keeps a nice home and presents a nice meal to a client then this is a benefit to you in closing deals. Best case is that TW and his wife get a long great and that would be huge!

In business ultimately the deal gets done or lost because of you NOT your wife. "My product is whack and my team third rate but my wife is hot! So please buy this product / sign this contract. " Unless you plan on using your wife's sexuality to close deals / fuck clients then you're argument does not hold water IMO.

Now if you're TW has hot friends and the contact is single or recently divorced that is a separate matter. You could use that opportunity to personal relationship to leverage into a more lucrative professional dynamic.

Keep in mind the other side of that sword; if you're TW is much younger or too hot for you (lets be honest guys) than you look foolish with TW not like a BOSS but the fool. People will think you're getting played, that she's only with you for your money (which in this case she is), it will make other people that you want to deal with uncomfortable. Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

Also the same TW might make the other wives JEALOUS and there is getting over that obstacle of life or business. If the other guys wife doesn't want you or your TW wife around you will not be around. Happy Wife=Happy Life.

Third: Speaking or learning English is not that hard once placed into a immersion environment. Get TW a visa, bring TW to USA for classes and culture, and watch how fast she leaves you for the next best thing!! Because in America there are guys younger, better looking, better shape, and make more money that you. And don't forget he'd be Anglo-Saxon so that bumbs him up 5 points making him a better catch than you. (I'm guessing you're not Tom Brady).

Forth: Education in Colombia is crap! I think most elementary schools go for like 4 hours and then a second shift starts. What can you accomplish in 4 hours with kids? I think it was Korea or China that said they're elementary programs go for 7-8 hours. Cultural considerations need to be factored in to the equation as well. Girls are told from the jump that their looks are the key to their lives so that is what they focus on. That being said education no bueno.

To answer your question about finding a TW you listed or inferred your needs to be. Stunning, Smart, Bilingual, Classy, Educated, and willing to marry you. Now ask yourself Why would a woman like this even in Colombia want to marry me? Even is she only had two or three of these characteristics she'd have better options in life than to marry into a loveless relationship with a man a decade or two her senior.

Lets be honest, Are you young or even youthful? Handsome or in good shape? Smart, funny, charming? Interesting, worldly, adventurous? Can you sing or dance well? Talented? Successful guys in the romantic world have several of these traits if not all. These are the things that make men attractive. And one more that is most important. Money.

Are you well off? I mean like $250 K a year or better? Because that's the range you need to be to get the girl you are describing. Even in Colombia!

If you are willling to lower your standards then if you make $80-$100 K+ then you can make it happen.

Seriously dude you're asking how to find a Trophy Wife on a forum dedicated to banning from around the world.

The game is to be sold. Not to be told.[/QUOTE]The picture you paint seems logical. That one needs to pay enormous amounts of money to get a Trophy Wife.

The reality is that you still are so influenced by your life in a often puritan Anglo-Saxon society that you can't break loose from mentally.

[URL]http://cazollasociados.********.com/2012/11/colombia-consumidores-de-bajos-ingresos.html[/URL] : 50% of the Colombians live on minimum wage and maximum working hours! 50%.

[URL]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/co.html[/URL] : top ten percent of the population gets 44% of the nations incomes, which leaves 90% of the Colombians with 56% of the incomes. Only some poor countries in Africa have more inequality!

Girls are stunning in Medellin. That is a fact! Compare to Peru or Argentina or Ecuador!

Men can NOT provide with much more than his paisa wife, and hence they look for money by prostitution or marrying a extranjero.

These are basic circumstances.

The lower class people only have contact with the upper-class life when being with gringos. They want to marry to escape their lifes in poverty. But they are ashamed of themselves. They are used to be servants, unskilled workers, etc. These girls almost consider gringos coming from another world. They have low self-esteem. They have no solution to that problem. This is a factor much more important than the supposed ugliness of the gringos in Parque Lleras.

[URL]http://www.tusalario.org/colombia/Portada/tusalario/compara-tu-salario[/URL] : A female engineer have a salary of 1. 20 m COP a month or $US 600 with 3-4 years university studies and 3-4 years working experience. That is 6877 COP / hour, which is 3. 43 $US an hour.

This is the economical landscape that to you enter going to Medellin.

I need to make $US 250.000 to get a trophy Wife here? Her income is $US 7200 a year. That is 34 times more that she earns! 34 times more!

Lowering my standards to a more normal girl I only need $US 80-100.000 which is "only" 11-14 times more.

Attracting a paisa who is educated, or adoptable to studies, cultural change, social class change, can't be more easy.

The numbers speaks for themselves. Above this comes many working hours, often Saturdays, often continuously studies to be competitive. Work & Studies, all day long, exept Sundays.

The Anglo-Saxon guy still is the best deal, even if there are much more of them in Latinamerica now than 30 years ago.

Trophy Wife are among the 51-89% of income. Maybe 10% have the looks and education / adaptability to become a real Trophy Wife.

That leaves us with an estimated 20.000 potential TWs in Medellin only, counting that 22% of the female population is in the age range to be married as "young and beautiful".

How many USs or Europeans do I then compete with?

I would say ten percent, 2000. Tops!

All statistics are in favour of the Anglo-Saxon guy. All of the statistics!

Trophy Wife does NOT exclude prepagos and mongering. It just leaves you with a smaller framework, but you can still visit paisasdivinas, Energy or New Life.

Don't (wildly) underestimate your ability to be a winner.

Thanks to macroeconomic factors you are a winner, even if you might feel otherwise!

" Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

I don certainly not think so! And there are a HUGE difference being 40 than being 60 if you excuse me.

I also want a SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30. Yes I do. I want her a lot more than that new Mercedes see-Class model with a powerful 3 liter engine. Both can be considered a waste of money, but both can also be considered a prestige symbol.

Most Western guys have to marry big, horselike females with an attitude, even though many times the guys earns more, have better looks since they are in the same age and females gets sexually unattractive much younger than men, just as they mature much earlier. A new trend today is, on top of that already permanent Stalingrad-like scenario, that the females is older. Are those females ashamed of themselves? NO! They just take what they want among "cute", but powerless modern men!

Why shouldn't we do the same in Medellin?

Make money in the Anglo-Saxon, Franko, German society. Then leave before you are stuck!

Females of today just take what they want without asking permission. Men tend to be unsecure. They can get that SUPER HOT girl, but then he starts to reason with moral logics to prevent himself from doing what he innermost really wants!

"Why didn't he ask me out", thinks the SUPER HOT Medellin girl.

Have you ever been to Medellin?

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1595262]" Your colleagues will think what we all do when we see a guy in his say 40-60 yrs range walk into a bar, club, restaurant with SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30's. Look at that guy with his hooker! Whan an idiot!

I don certainly not think so! And there are a HUGE difference being 40 than being 60 if you excuse me.

I also want a SUPER HOT girl in her 20-30. Yes I do. I want her a lot more than that new Mercedes see-Class model with a powerful 3 liter engine. Both can be considered a waste of money, but both can also be considered a prestige symbol.

Most Western guys have to marry big, horselike females with an attitude, even though many times the guys earns more, have better looks since they are in the same age and females gets sexually unattractive much younger than men, just as they mature much earlier. A new trend today is, on top of that already permanent Stalingrad-like scenario, that the females is older. Are those females ashamed of themselves? NO! They just take what they want among "cute", but powerless modern men!..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1595018]I have a girl with money issues that needs it fixed today. If you want a nonpro today and are willing to fork over 200 k pm me. If not let's not make this a big deal just ignore this post.[/QUOTE]So the nonpro is about to go pro? Nice!

[QUOTE=Cachupo;1595003]What's the magic formula? Half your age + 7? Hahaha. I think that works, but you can probably go 1/3 your age + 8. As long as you are older than 30.

I been in the Asia and south America, and it's not unusual to see older men with younger women. I know a couple accomplished businessmen who are in their 50's. And they have gfs in 20's. Hot.

Will people in the USA look at you differently? Yes. Especially women and jealous men. But man if you are happy, do what makes you happy. Life is short. Remove the negative people from your life or minimize them.

"Stay thirsty my friends"dos equis commercial.[/QUOTE]The magic formula in my opinion is there is no magic formula.

Too much talk of statistics, ratios, percentages, etc.

It's simple, if you want to really meet Colombian women, do what makes sense.

Maybe learn to speak Spanish, duh LOL.

Get good and comfortable at it.

Visit Colombia often, another duh.

Go out, make friends, contacts, friends of friends, etc.

Just enjoy the day, the week, whatever.

You'll meet women.

The culture is friendly, especially to the respectful and fun.

Chances are good you'll eventually meet the girl for you.

Don't force it.

Relax and enjoy the growing of the relationship.

I've seen many many guys fall for the beautiful Latina and rush it, even get married way to soon, only to find disappointment later.

I'm getting way too philosophical here, bottom line, take a deep breath and enjoy the ride.

Cool.

20 years old, 2 hours 2 shots 200 k.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1595277]So the nonpro is about to go pro? Nice![/QUOTE]