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You've all seen my posts about my preference for bareback.
Recently, a chica I know got pregnant and her boyfriend confided in me that she always told him she could not get pregnant. I'm no expert on female fertility. The novio claims he used condoms mostly but she'd wouldn't make him do it so eventually he started going bareback. This really opened my eyes. My last trip to Colombia I ended up wifing up and barebacking this chica in Cartagena. She told me, as well, that she could not get pregnant. I remember asking her twice about this before doing the deed. She insisted she would need fertility meds to get knocked up.
I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1986432]Guys please post your other things you have to say here:[/QUOTE]I was wondering if you or another senior member could set-up an FAQ type thread where members can easily find information about Medellin and Cartagena please? It would definitely help new members find info and also reduce repeated questions.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1986440]You've all seen my posts about my preference for bareback.
Recently, a chica I know got pregnant and her boyfriend confided in me that she always told him she could not get pregnant. I'm no expert on female fertility. The novio claims he used condoms mostly but she'd wouldn't make him do it so eventually he started going bareback. This really opened my eyes. My last trip to Colombia I ended up wifing up and barebacking this chica in Cartagena. She told me, as well, that she could not get pregnant. I remember asking her twice about this before doing the deed. She insisted she would need fertility meds to get knocked up.
I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.[/QUOTE]Could be. Between STDs and pregnancy, there's plenty of incentive to use condoms. Some solve solve the second issue by getting a vasectomy.
A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.
I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.
Monger problems.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1986913]A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.
I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.
Monger problems.[/QUOTE]It's only Monday. Surely you can figure out how to rectify the "never fucked me" issue.
It is at the top of this page.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;1986466]I was wondering if you or another senior member could set-up an FAQ type thread where members can easily find information about Medellin and Cartagena please? It would definitely help new members find info and also reduce repeated questions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1986913]A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.
I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.
Monger problems.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is a great place for vacation, but regarding mongering it's poor compared to Bogota, Medellin or Cali: prices are sky high, girls are not pretty and service is poor. The place is spoilded by tourists. It might be a mongering option for tourists that combine both, but coming from Medellin to go to monger in Cartagena is a no sense. Just go on week-end with that girl, relax and enjoy Cartagena and leave mongering for when you are in Medellin. And hey, if the girl insists on going with you, it's simply impossible she will not have sex with you during that week-end.
[QUOTE=Routard;1987140]Cartagena is a great place for vacation, but regarding mongering it's poor compared to Bogota, Medellin or Cali: prices are sky high, girls are not pretty and service is poor. The place is spoilded by tourists. It might be a mongering option for tourists that combine both, but coming from Medellin to go to monger in Cartagena is a no sense. Just go on week-end with that girl, relax and enjoy Cartagena and leave mongering for when you are in Medellin. And hey, if the girl insists on going with you, it's simply impossible she will not have sex with you during that week-end.[/QUOTE]I'm the opposite. I prefer mongering in Cartagena, and recently we had a discussion on pricing there. It's not too different unless you're are comparing it to casa prices in Medellin and Bogota (I'm not into Casas). I won't be taking her. She's a cute girl but by all accounts just wants to mooch off me and I'm not into her enough to fuck her.
By the first night in Cartagena I hope to wife up with a fat ass morena and try out some anal. I like to make these trips into special projects.
I am at the airport right now, going back to Seattle. I found this web page [URL]Colombiangfe.com[/URL] and I found some girls from Colombia, escorts offering a real girl friend experience. That is what they said.
I arrived to Medellin and the girl from the website was waiting for me. It is true, is unbelievable, you can actually see the faces of the model.
I have to catch my fly, I will write more later.
[QUOTE=JuveCar;1987393]I am at the airport right now, going back to Seattle. I found this web page [URL]Colombiangfe.com[/URL] and I found some girls from Colombia, escorts offering a real girl friend experience. That is what they said.
I arrived to Medellin and the girl from the website was waiting for me. It is true, is unbelievable, you can actually see the faces of the model.
I have to catch my fly, I will write more later.[/QUOTE]I was wondering when the next shill would come along to advertise their rip-off escort services here. It has been awhile.
If they actually provided the service they promise, they wouldn't need to come here and lie about the service.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1987602]I was wondering when the next shill would come along to advertise their rip-off escort services here. It has been awhile.
If they actually provided the service they promise, they wouldn't need to come here and lie about the service.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't lie.
I contact the number, I asked for one girl and she was there hours later, knocking my door, the same girl of the web, body and face. She was very nice very polite and just a that moment I gave her the money. I didn't pay anything to the web or to any other person, just to the model.
[QUOTE=JuveCar;1987718]Sorry, I didn't lie.
I contact the number, I asked for one girl and she was there hours later, knocking my door, the same girl of the web, body and face. She was very nice very polite and just a that moment I gave her the money. I didn't pay anything to the web or to any other person, just to the model.[/QUOTE]Going to have to call bullshit on that one. Your syntax says English is not your native tongue, and you're certainly not from Seattle. That's strike 1.
You had only 2 posts, basically identical, on 2 Medellin threads, both promoting an escort agency. That's strike 2.
No other posts. No "I'm coming to Medellin", or "can anyone help with. " No review of anything at all except 1 escort agency. That's strike 3.
You see American tourists don't come to ISG, post 2 ads for the same escort agency and nothing else. They ask questions, they tell about their experiences, they brag, or complain. At the very least they will give some sort of introduction.
If you want to advertise your business, pay for an advertisement.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1987829]Going to have to call bullshit on that one. Your syntax says English is not your native tongue, and you're certainly not from Seattle. That's strike 1.
You had only 2 posts, basically identical, on 2 Medellin threads, both promoting an escort agency. That's strike 2.
No other posts. No "I'm coming to Medellin", or "can anyone help with. " No review of anything at all except 1 escort agency. That's strike 3.
You see American tourists don't come to ISG, post 2 ads for the same escort agency and nothing else. They ask questions, they tell about their experiences, they brag, or complain. At the very least they will give some sort of introduction.
If you want to advertise your business, pay for an advertisement.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right, I am from Italy, I am an engineer at Boei. And no, is not my web page.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1986440]I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.[/QUOTE]Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.
Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.
[QUOTE=JackJericho;1988042]Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.
Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.[/QUOTE]I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1988367]I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.[/QUOTE]I've known many a Colombian girl with child, and I can assure you. A ton of them aren't getting jack shit in terms of support from the baby's daddy! More the rule than the exception. So, I'm with you on this.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1988367]I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.[/QUOTE]From what I understand, child support laws are not applied very strongly in Colombia. They are about where the US was a few decades ago.
However, with a Gringo, she can hire an attorney who can work with a USA Attorney to go after you. Most of the girls probably aren't sophisticated enough to do this, but it has happened (I know of one case personally).
[QUOTE=Combo;1988381]From what I understand, child support laws are not applied very strongly in Colombia. They are about where the US was a few decades ago.
However, with a Gringo, she can hire an attorney who can work with a USA Attorney to go after you. Most of the girls probably aren't sophisticated enough to do this, but it has happened (I know of one case personally).[/QUOTE]It always comes down to money. If the girl gets knocked up by her just-as-poor-as-she Colombian boyfriend, it probably isn't worth the money to try to get any money from him.
This is a risky hobby, mongering, but we are all adults and every one of us can decide the risk level he is willing to take. Pregnancy not being the only one nor the worst. Besides, being a BB sex fan myself, I'll be the last one to throw a stone. I just point to a simple fact of which I have a couple examples.
To be honest, whether the laws were enforced or not I couldn't abandon a kid in some other country. I just don't want to have to raise it with a lying puta.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1986913]A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, [B]and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see[/B]. She claims she has never been to a beach.
I'm torn between being [b]mr nice guy and going along with it[/b], or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.
Monger problems.[/QUOTE]Going with her you have a 50/50 shot of having a great time. Perhaps less. Going solo your odds approach well over 80%. And you don't have to pay extra airfare and double all your meals, drinks expenses.
Don't get me wrong, I love travelling and going to the beach and out to dinner, but if I am taking on the expense (more of my time = having a good one, than money) I want to be with someone who totally rocks with me, then plan the vaca with her in mind. We both know what we're getting and that's cool etc. Otherwise solo it is.
You made these plans from the get go for solo and you were OK with that at the time. It should still be good now. Or if you think you can turn her into the perfect "what you want in a sexy travel partner" before you go there's always that option. JMHO.
[QUOTE=JackJericho;1988042]Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.
[b]Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.[/b][/QUOTE]Sage advice.
The top 5 reasons most paisas can't / don't go after child support:
5.) They don't know who the father is.
4.) They don't know where the father is.
3.) They know where the father is but he's jobless.
2.) They know where the father is and know he has a job but it's low paying and under the table. No legal recourse.
1.) Orgullo / pride.
[QUOTE=SailorJim;1991731]Going with her you have a 50/50 shot of having a great time. Perhaps less. Going solo your odds approach well over 80%. And you don't have to pay extra airfare and double all your meals, drinks expenses.
Don't get me wrong, I love travelling and going to the beach and out to dinner, but if I am taking on the expense (more of my time = having a good one, than money) I want to be with someone who totally rocks with me, then plan the vaca with her in mind. We both know what we're getting and that's cool etc. Otherwise solo it is.
[/QUOTE]I went on my own to Cartagena and fucked on average two girls a day. Had a swell time. I told the chica I wasn't going due to a last minute emergency at work. I lied basically, but whatever.
Fast forward two weeks later she sends me photos of her trip to San Andres island, and tells me it's so great there, and that she's having fun. I nicely tell her to enjoy herself. Then she starts asking where I am, so I tell her I'm back home. She asks if I'm coming down to Colombia and asks if I'll be coming alone. I tell her soon (probably not until April / May). The thing that bugs me is how she's trying to hitch a ride with me. Her looks aren't bad, but not really what I'm looking for. She's early 20's, slim, with a small booty and reasonable breasts.
I tried forming some kind of normal connection with her but she's very passive. The only time she asks anything is when I'm going to see her next. I never fucked her, and only hung out with her for one day back when I was in Medellin last year. As far as I can tell she's not a prepago in anyway. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if some other gringo took her to San Andres. It's like a disease with some of these young Colombian women. They want to enjoy themselves and use gringos as meal tickets.
I want to have a travel partner, I can fuck, and enjoy myself with, but they should at least put some effort into winning me over, other than constantly trying to guilt me into a free trip.
I keep reading about the Mansion 1 and 2, but haven't ran across the info to find out more about the stay, rates, or location. Can someone PM or post this info for me?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Unico11;2003467]I keep reading about the Mansion 1 and 2, but haven't ran across the info to find out more about the stay, rates, or location. Can someone PM or post this info for me?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here is a link to their website: [URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/about.html[/URL].
If you look a few threads down from this thread, you will see "Casa Blanca Medellin". That is the Mansion. You can find some more info there.
I recently made my first trip to Medellin. I want to share some of the information and learning experiences I encountered. First if you are preparing your trip, I recommend you purchase Patrick Jonesie's "Gentleman's Guide to Medellin" it's cheap and it will save you hours of reading the forum (which you should do anyway).
The first item to tackle is making reservations to fly there. I flew from a non-major West coast city and made my own bargain by booking the main flight from a major hub and then booking a separate flight from my city to the hub. I saved almost $250 by doing it this way. Sometimes those anomalies exist and sometimes they don't. Your situation may or may not warrant looking at the possibility.
First screw up! I mapped all the banks in El Poblado around where I was staying. I was concerned about getting cash from ATMs (called cajeros). I didn't see any at the airport (but I know they are there because I saw several on my return flight visit). I hit a cambio and got an awful rate. I knew the cab ride was $75 mil so I exchanged $40 US. Here are the tips. If you are arriving during the day there is a bus that will take you to el centro for a few bucks (US) and from there you can take a cab anywhere and have a huge savings vs the $75 mil from the airport. Second, if you are arriving late or don't want to f' with the bus. The cabs will be happy to stop in El Poblado (or wherever) and let you hit a cajero and pull money. BTW there was no need to map out banks, on 43 A (the main drag which as it goes further South is called El Poblado Avenida) has 2 or 3 cajeros every block. Oh and after you put in your ATM card and pin #, it offers you the choice of continuing in English or Spanish. (I hit 6 different ones during my trip and they all offered that choice).
The Mansion? Or on your own. I did not choose to stay at the Mansion. For a first time visitor with limited (or non-existent) Spanish and wanting to have everything easily available and the camaraderie at hand, maybe that is a winning choice. Just know that the rack rate is at least double what you would find in other places (and I mean guest-friendly places) the only difference is you will need at least basic Spanish and you'll have to call your talent in on your own. To me, it was an easy choice. I'm working on my Spanish and considering Medellin as a retirement spot. I wanted the Spanish practice and I wanted to see how I would fare on my own.
A few tips. Make copies of your passport. Once you are in your room, put your passport and credit cards in the safe. You can go out with the copies of your passport and just enough cash (and a little extra) to handle what you expect you'll need. No reason to amplify any risks and certainly not on one of your first visits.
Traffic is crazy in Medellin. Take a cab DO NOT rent a vehicle. Cabs (once you're in Medellin) are dirt cheap. (So are buses) OH. Do NOT slam the doors the cab drivers will run you over. Just push the door to a closed position.
I also suggest you walk around and get to know the layout. I enjoyed it and El Poblado is like any modern US city. Very modern. Parque Lleras is over hyped. I saw too many men wearing shorts (clearly Gringos, since Colombians don't wear shorts unless they are at the beach). Lleras seems like the ex-pat hangout. I was looking for more authentic experiences and avoided the place.
They have a very efficient metro (but it's always going to require some serious walking, so be prepared) and the Metro-Cable gondala cars that go up the sides of the mountains are amazing! Make sure you have the time to do this and if you need to hire a guide, it's still worth it. (Spanish comes in handy here. I was absolutely unable to communicate at a sufficient level but sure as hell, I got off at the right stop and the Policeman sent me in the right direction and I made it work, which means you can too).
I also did a 4 hour walking tour of el centro (called "Real City Tours" which is donation only and very interesting and worthwhile).
OK you're probably not coming to Medellin to checkout the history and retirement potential so let's talk about the real reason you're going there.
I booked my dates through FaceBook (and two others through Tinder). FaceBook is most relevant because of the large number of pointers and suggestions here on the board. You will need to have some basic level of Spanish. I know you're really smart and can manage google-translate but it takes too long and your girls will lose interest quickly if the conversation has too many delays. Oh and Google Translate and other apps are too word for word specific and don't really do a good job of translating the essence of what you are trying to say or understand. Basic Spanish will reward your effort more than you can believe possible.
If I had it to do over again (and I'm working on my next visit as we read / write) I would visit a number of the better casas on Avenida 33 in Laureles. (Unless I can get one of the masters to accompany me on a casa hunt in el centro). Laureles is safe, more expensive with lots of great beauties (or so I hear). So that is my plan for the next visit.
You should be able to pull great girls from Facebook but you'll have to work it. I mean let them know in advance you're visiting. (Don't expect long conversations, they don't want to waste their time until you're in the city). Once here, post some Medellin pictures on your FB homepage to let your "friends" know you've arrived and start to work. You'll pay more for a FaceBook prepago than you would in a casa but you should be able to pre-arrange your needs and her needs (something I didn't always do on my first trip and while it generally worked exactly as I hoped, there were a few disappointments). P4P is legal in Colombia (over the age of 18 and don't you even begin to think that 18 is a guideline and not a rule. You seriously do not want to find your ass in a Colombian prison, hoping that Donald Trump will pull you out. Because he won't). So since P4P is legal girls are not paranoid about clarifying what they want out of the visit and what you want out of the visit. This is a serious adjustment vs. The US where you both would be dealing with illegalities.
I recommend staying away from 'drugs' but I'm not a user so you are on your own in that department. If you would like to make sure you're 'up to the occasion' you might bring your needs with you. ED drugs in El Poblado are not as inexpensive even in the generic as I thought. Probably should have tried to price them in Envigado or other spots. Others may have good ideas where to find the bargains but all the "Drogerias" I tried in El Poblado were way too expensive for my tastes. (Luckily that was just a fact-finding excursion, since I brought my own stash).
I also suggest you bring your own condoms of choice. Why? Some girls won't bring them and will not go without, which will cause a problem. Besides some of the Colombian brands are too small and might make things uncomfortable. It's cheap, bring your own.
OK synopsis of my trip. I saw a bunch of FaceBook girls. Most asked what I was going to spend. I universally gave this answer:
$150 mil + taxis. Una Vez - 1-2 horas $150 mil - 1 time - 1-2 hours.
$200 mil + taxis. Dos Veces - 2-3 horas $200 mil - 2 times - 2-3 hours.
$300 mil + taxis - ? Veces - 6-8 horas $300 mil - ? Times - 6-8 hours.
Debes traer tu cedula. You must bring your ID.
Mi hotel es conservativa, por favor, te pones la ropa conservativa. My hotel is conservative, please wear conservative clothes.
I met very little resistance to this. One girl insisted she wanted $200 mil for 1 time 1-2 hours but she agreed to cover her own transportation. She had a very good rep so I did it but it wasn't one of my best sessions either.
OH, not a single girl asked to be paid up front. I would absolutely have sent them home (with taxi money) if they had insisted on this. This has been discussed in the forum and it's a clear absolute. You lose all control when you pay up front. Clearly you don't want to do this and sending a girl home is a preferable option even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. Luckily I never, once faced this issue.
I made my first trip 2 1/2 weeks, because air-fare is expensive. But I had a cold and was pretty much staying in my room the first 2-3 days. I think 10 days to 2 weeks is a satisfactory time range for a visit. If you reach your fill of sport-fucking the trip could drag. But if you like visiting museums and historical spots you certainly have enough to fill as much time as you would like.
If you visit a nice restaurant be warned that they might very well add "Propina" (which is 'standard gratuity' A lot of the places will ask you if that is OK? You might not understand the question in rapid-fire Spanish. Just look at the bill closely. If you see a line item "Propina" just know that you've already paid part (or all) of the tip and not to pay twice. My experience with the nicer restaurants (nicer meaning = more expensive) was that they added a 10% propina. Colombian tipping is different. 10% is generous / more than sufficient. You won't need or want to add anything to that. BTW Cab rides will not expect a tip at all, they will be delighted if you just round up the fare to the nearest Mil. (Cab fare = 8,650 and you pay them 9,000 (9 mil) They will be very happy.
Don't be too afraid to make mistakes, it's inevitable. You can't help but have a great time. So, relax and enjoy! And most important of all, take notes every night and write up a trip-report when you're finished.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2023909]I recently made my first trip to Medellin. I want to share some of the information and learning experiences I encountered. First if you are preparing your trip, I recommend you purchase Patrick Jonesie's "Gentleman's Guide to Medellin" it's cheap and it will save you hours of reading the forum (which you should do anyway).
The first item to tackle is making reservations to fly there. I flew from a non-major West coast city and made my own bargain by booking the main flight from a major hub and then booking a separate flight from my city to the hub. I saved almost $250 by doing it this way. Sometimes those anomalies exist and sometimes they don't. Your situation may or may not warrant looking at the possibility.
First screw up! I mapped all the banks in El Poblado around where I was staying. I was concerned about getting cash from ATMs (called cajeros). I didn't see any at the airport (but I know they are there because I saw several on my return flight visit). I hit a cambio and got an awful rate. I knew the cab ride was $75 mil so I exchanged $40 US. Here are the tips. If you are arriving during the day there is a bus that will take you to el centro for a few bucks (US) and from there you can take a cab anywhere and have a huge savings vs the $75 mil from the airport. Second, if you are arriving late or don't want to f' with the bus. The cabs will be happy to stop in El Poblado (or wherever) and let you hit a cajero and pull money. BTW there was no need to map out banks, on 43 A (the main drag which as it goes further South is called El Poblado Avenida) has 2 or 3 cajeros every block. Oh and after you put in your ATM card and pin #, it offers you the choice of continuing in English or Spanish. (I hit 6 different ones during my trip and they all offered that choice).
The Mansion? Or on your own. I did not choose to stay at the Mansion. For a first time visitor with limited (or non-existent) Spanish and wanting to have everything easily available and the camaraderie at hand, maybe that is a winning choice. Just know that the rack rate is at least double what you would find in other places (and I mean guest-friendly places) the only difference is you will need at least basic Spanish and you'll have to call your talent in on your own. To me, it was an easy choice. I'm working on my Spanish and considering Medellin as a retirement spot. I wanted the Spanish practice and I wanted to see how I would fare on my own.
A few tips. Make copies of your passport. Once you are in your room, put your passport and credit cards in the safe. You can go out with the copies of your passport and just enough cash (and a little extra) to handle what you expect you'll need. No reason to amplify any risks and certainly not on one of your first visits.
Traffic is crazy in Medellin. Take a cab DO NOT rent a vehicle. Cabs (once you're in Medellin) are dirt cheap. (So are buses) OH. Do NOT slam the doors the cab drivers will run you over. Just push the door to a closed position.
I also suggest you walk around and get to know the layout. I enjoyed it and El Poblado is like any modern US city. Very modern. Parque Lleras is over hyped. I saw too many men wearing shorts (clearly Gringos, since Colombians don't wear shorts unless they are at the beach). Lleras seems like the ex-pat hangout. I was looking for more authentic experiences and avoided the place.
They have a very efficient metro (but it's always going to require some serious walking, so be prepared) and the Metro-Cable gondala cars that go up the sides of the mountains are amazing! Make sure you have the time to do this and if you need to hire a guide, it's still worth it. (Spanish comes in handy here. I was absolutely unable to communicate at a sufficient level but sure as hell, I got off at the right stop and the Policeman sent me in the right direction and I made it work, which means you can too).
I also did a 4 hour walking tour of el centro (called "Real City Tours" which is donation only and very interesting and worthwhile).
OK you're probably not coming to Medellin to checkout the history and retirement potential so let's talk about the real reason you're going there.
I booked my dates through FaceBook (and two others through Tinder). FaceBook is most relevant because of the large number of pointers and suggestions here on the board. You will need to have some basic level of Spanish. I know you're really smart and can manage google-translate but it takes too long and your girls will lose interest quickly if the conversation has too many delays. Oh and Google Translate and other apps are too word for word specific and don't really do a good job of translating the essence of what you are trying to say or understand. Basic Spanish will reward your effort more than you can believe possible.
If I had it to do over again (and I'm working on my next visit as we read / write) I would visit a number of the better casas on Avenida 33 in Laureles. (Unless I can get one of the masters to accompany me on a casa hunt in el centro). Laureles is safe, more expensive with lots of great beauties (or so I hear). So that is my plan for the next visit.
You should be able to pull great girls from Facebook but you'll have to work it. I mean let them know in advance you're visiting. (Don't expect long conversations, they don't want to waste their time until you're in the city). Once here, post some Medellin pictures on your FB homepage to let your "friends" know you've arrived and start to work. You'll pay more for a FaceBook prepago than you would in a casa but you should be able to pre-arrange your needs and her needs (something I didn't always do on my first trip and while it generally worked exactly as I hoped, there were a few disappointments). P4P is legal in Colombia (over the age of 18 and don't you even begin to think that 18 is a guideline and not a rule. You seriously do not want to find your ass in a Colombian prison, hoping that Donald Trump will pull you out. Because he won't). So since P4P is legal girls are not paranoid about clarifying what they want out of the visit and what you want out of the visit. This is a serious adjustment vs. The US where you both would be dealing with illegalities.
I recommend staying away from 'drugs' but I'm not a user so you are on your own in that department. If you would like to make sure you're 'up to the occasion' you might bring your needs with you. ED drugs in El Poblado are not as inexpensive even in the generic as I thought. Probably should have tried to price them in Envigado or other spots. Others may have good ideas where to find the bargains but all the "Drogerias" I tried in El Poblado were way too expensive for my tastes. (Luckily that was just a fact-finding excursion, since I brought my own stash).
I also suggest you bring your own condoms of choice. Why? Some girls won't bring them and will not go without, which will cause a problem. Besides some of the Colombian brands are too small and might make things uncomfortable. It's cheap, bring your own.
OK synopsis of my trip. I saw a bunch of FaceBook girls. Most asked what I was going to spend. I universally gave this answer:
$150 mil + taxis. Una Vez - 1-2 horas $150 mil - 1 time - 1-2 hours.
$200 mil + taxis. Dos Veces - 2-3 horas $200 mil - 2 times - 2-3 hours.
$300 mil + taxis - ? Veces - 6-8 horas $300 mil - ? Times - 6-8 hours.
Debes traer tu cedula. You must bring your ID.
Mi hotel es conservativa, por favor, te pones la ropa conservativa. My hotel is conservative, please wear conservative clothes.
I met very little resistance to this. One girl insisted she wanted $200 mil for 1 time 1-2 hours but she agreed to cover her own transportation. She had a very good rep so I did it but it wasn't one of my best sessions either.
OH, not a single girl asked to be paid up front. I would absolutely have sent them home (with taxi money) if they had insisted on this. This has been discussed in the forum and it's a clear absolute. You lose all control when you pay up front. Clearly you don't want to do this and sending a girl home is a preferable option even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. Luckily I never, once faced this issue.
I made my first trip 2 1/2 weeks, because air-fare is expensive. But I had a cold and was pretty much staying in my room the first 2-3 days. I think 10 days to 2 weeks is a satisfactory time range for a visit. If you reach your fill of sport-fucking the trip could drag. But if you like visiting museums and historical spots you certainly have enough to fill as much time as you would like.
If you visit a nice restaurant be warned that they might very well add "Propina" (which is 'standard gratuity' A lot of the places will ask you if that is OK? You might not understand the question in rapid-fire Spanish. Just look at the bill closely. If you see a line item "Propina" just know that you've already paid part (or all) of the tip and not to pay twice. My experience with the nicer restaurants (nicer meaning = more expensive) was that they added a 10% propina. Colombian tipping is different. 10% is generous / more than sufficient. You won't need or want to add anything to that. BTW Cab rides will not expect a tip at all, they will be delighted if you just round up the fare to the nearest Mil. (Cab fare = 8,650 and you pay them 9,000 (9 mil) They will be very happy.
Don't be too afraid to make mistakes, it's inevitable. You can't help but have a great time. So, relax and enjoy! And most important of all, take notes every night and write up a trip-report when you're finished.[/QUOTE]Great report. Just a couple of observations. Colombians do wear shorts, although it's not as common for men as for women.
Propinas: Most restaurants, even the cheap ones, include a 10% tip on the bill, although some will ask first. The bill will include a statement that the 10% propina is voluntary and it will be removed at your request. Colombians pay the 10% without question and never leave an additional tip.
Cajeros: ATMs are everywhere. I was in Centro Comercial Santa Fe (mall) on Sunday and just inside was a line of 6 ATMs from 1 bank, with 2 other bank ATMs, on the other side. There were plenty more throughout the mall. You should use indoor ATMs when possible, especially outside of Poblado.
Casas de Cambio: Currency exchange at the airport is always the worst rate. There are several places with better rates, Surcambios, Unicambios and Western Union all have decent rates.
If you're bored and need to kill some time, go visit a centro comercial (mall). I think the biggest is Santa Fe, just off the Aguacatala metro station. It's also the most expensive, so go next door to Oviedo mall if you're planning on buying anything. There are about 30 different food options at Santa Fe (price 16 k to 25 k and up) with another 20 at Oviedo (mostly 12 k to 25 k). There are also plenty of hot paisas dressed to get your attention. Walk around, or sit and have a beer, many of the food court places serve beer, and enjoy the floor show.
Taxis are everywhere and Uber is also readily available. Daytime (and early night, in good areas), just stick out your arm on Poblado or Las Vegas Ave. A taxi will stop for you. If you're staying somewhere off the beaten path, be prepared to give directions. It's common for a driver to have no idea how to get somewhere, but he'll happily drive around hoping for inspiration. Note: If you're in Centro at 3 am, I don't recommend just flagging down a taxi.
Medellin traffic isn't bad, compared to Bogota, but drivers have no idea what lanes are for. They drive a little crazy. You're right about no need to rent a car. Between taxis, busetas and the Metro, getting around is easy. Much easier than trying to find parking.
The airport taxi fee is supposed to be 65 k, but the drivers will try to charge more. Confirm the price before you leave. The bus is 8 k or 9 k, $3 vs. $23. Considering the distance, either is a bargain.
Depending on where you're coming from, it may be cheaper to fly to / from Bogota or Cartagena. From either place you can fly roundtrip to Medellin for about $50. Gives the option of a day or 2 to check another city.
Villainy, that is a very good report. I think you are now as experienced as some who have been there many times. Your recommendations are all very good. There are a couple of things I want to add. At the airport, there are two Bancolombia ATM's just past the exit to the sidewalk after baggage claim. They are on the same side as the exit doors.
The generic Viagra is cheap in Medellin, although the price recently increased. I buy it just outside Park Lleras, at the drugstore on calle 10 and cra 40 (across calle 10 from Mondongos restaurant). It is less than 50 cents for 50 MG. They did not have generic Cialis when I checked about three years ago. I don't use Cialis because it had unwanted effects on me.
You didn't say anything about the downtown casas. If you go during the day, it is as safe as almost any other city. You just need to use common sense and some precautions. Most of the Medellin natives say to stay away from the Prado metro stop area, even in the daytime. I went there one time, not knowing any better, and didn't have any incidents. But why stretch your luck! There are many casas within easy walking distance of the Parque Berrio metro station.
Since you are comfortable staying in a hotel or apartment, I recommend you look in the Laurales area when you return. Almost everything there is cheaper than in Poblado.
Going back in a few weeks and some of you may remember this post from before I went in April:
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I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena?
[/QUOTE]Instead of paying 200 k a pop in Cartagena I wondered if I could grab a casa girl or an SW from centro to take with me (para llevar). Well out of nowhere a casa chica started messaging me. One of the fat asses in Chicas Punto. This one I have tosay is half Brazilian. She's Colombian from her head to her waist, and brazilian from her hips to her feet hahahaha. I tell her I'd love to contribute more to her college fund and will be in Medellin in a few weeks. We start chatting but there's only one issue. She types everything as single words in a single sentence the entire time on whatsapp. Like. Every. Word. Is. Its. Own. Message.
This is some Sienfeld level shit. She's a perfect fuck for me in everyway but what a turnoff that she's so stupid she can't even type full sentences. Oh and when I asked her if she wanted me to bring her a gift she told me she wants a gold watch. Well of course she does.
Good news is she's willing to go bareback and I hinted some anal would be much appreciated. Bareback is fine (evidently all them chicas in that casa get 'injections' for birth control), but no clear response on the anal.
People keep yapping about setting up dates and finding girls on Facebook. Okay, how? Where does one begin? I search for girls, medellin, paisas, prepagos etc I get nowhere. Where is this magical trove of secpzy Facebook chicas that are willing to please my every whim? How do I begin to find them?
[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2041463]People keep yapping about setting up dates and finding girls on Facebook. Okay, how? Where does one begin? I search for girls, medellin, paisas, prepagos etc I get nowhere. Where is this magical trove of secpzy Facebook chicas that are willing to please my every whim? How do I begin to find them?[/QUOTE]Go to club Gusto Wednesday night. Get a prepago a bit drunk and take her home and fuck her. Pay her. Take her whatsapp number. Make jokes for a couple of days. Maybe see her again? Then ask about facebook.
Once you have one or two look for other women with sexy photos and lots of gringo friends. Add away.
YippieKayay and his interesting report brings up an interesting dilemma.
He mentioned telling the girl he wished to contribute to her "college fund". I like that line. I have been struggling with how best to bring up the cold subject of compensation during lovey, dovey chats with FB paisas I haven't met yet in person.
When is a good time to bring up how much and begin negotiations? "College fund" is a nice way to put it to the girl. What are some other ways to bring up money without it being so direct?
I once brought up the subject of money to a known working girl from another country via chat and she quickly put me on ignore. And this was definitely a working girl too.
[QUOTE=Lou32;2043584] I have been struggling with how best to bring up the cold subject of compensation during lovey, dovey chats with FB paisas I haven't met yet in person.[/QUOTE]I have been meeting ladies from FB for more than six years. I have never brought up the subject of money with any of them. I tell them I want to see them, and that I am staying in an apartment. I've only communicated with two that said they were not P4 P. They both asked why I wanted to see them. I don't sugar-coat my response. I told them I wanted to go to bed with them. One said she has never done that for money (I'm still working on her). The other gave me some screwy answer that she's only been with one man, and she wasn't raised like that. Most of the ones I hadn't previously met in person asked what I planned to give them. It's always 150 mil plus one taxi ride. A few have asked for more. It depends on how they communicate if I agree to more. I had one last month tell me 300 mil plus taxi. I didn't even have to think before I said no.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2043599]I have been meeting ladies from FB for more than six years. I have never brought up the subject of money with any of them. I tell them I want to see them, and that I am staying in an apartment. I've only communicated with two that said they were not P4 P. They both asked why I wanted to see them. I don't sugar-coat my response. I told them I wanted to go to bed with them. One said she has never done that for money (I'm still working on her). The other gave me some screwy answer that she's only been with one man, and she wasn't raised like that. Most of the ones I hadn't previously met in person asked what I planned to give them. It's always 150 mil plus one taxi ride. A few have asked for more. It depends on how they communicate if I agree to more. I had one last month tell me 300 mil plus taxi. I didn't even have to think before I said no.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I will try to stick to 150 mil too.
My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it. That happened to me once (in another country, I don't know if the Colombianas would behave like that) and I want to avoid that again.
It is good to know that you can be more direct in Colombia, LOL!
[QUOTE=Lou32;2043705]Thanks for the info. I will try to stick to 150 mil too.
My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it. That happened to me once (in another country, I don't know if the Colombianas would behave like that) and I want to avoid that again.
It is good to know that you can be more direct in Colombia, LOL![/QUOTE]They will always generally negotiate before the act. Red flags are not mentioning price or time, and asking for money up front. In situations like these it's best to de-escalate as quickly as possible and get out of there. Usually giving them 20 k for taxi money seems to work.
EDIT: I noticed your other question. If you want to be subtle about payments say you're giving a gift. 'Regalo' is the Spanish word. You won't need to be this subtle with hookers and most prepagos but the ones who do it part time might want to use this kind of language.
[QUOTE=Lou32;2043705]My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it.[/QUOTE]I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.
In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2043778]I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.
In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.[/QUOTE]I don't think making a scene is part of the Colombian mindset. I'm sure there are exceptions, but most seem to accept things with minimal complaints. Afterwards, they will complain to all their friends.
My roommate just illustrated this to me, in an unrelated way. She had just bought something for the apartment, walked out of the store and saw an item she liked better. I told her to return the first one and buy the other one. She was terrified of making a scene or of offending the store clerk. She wouldn't even let me do it for her.
I wouldn't worry too much about one making a scene.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043710]They will always generally negotiate before the act. Red flags are not mentioning price or time, and asking for money up front. In situations like these it's best to de-escalate as quickly as possible and get out of there. Usually giving them 20 k for taxi money seems to work.
EDIT: I noticed your other question. If you want to be subtle about payments say you're giving a gift. 'Regalo' is the Spanish word. You won't need to be this subtle with hookers and most prepagos but the ones who do it part time might want to use this kind of language.[/QUOTE]Yes, regalo, I've heard that often in Latin America, LOL!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2043798]I don't think making a scene is part of the Colombian mindset. I'm sure there are exceptions, but most seem to accept things with minimal complaints. Afterwards, they will complain to all their friends.
My roommate just illustrated this to me, in an unrelated way. She had just bought something for the apartment, walked out of the store and saw an item she liked better. I told her to return the first one and buy the other one. She was terrified of making a scene or of offending the store clerk. She wouldn't even let me do it for her.
I wouldn't worry too much about one making a scene.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've noticed that the Colombians are a bit classier than their Dominican cousins. No offense meant towards the Dominicans, of course.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2043778]I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.
In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.[/QUOTE]Regarding the "Do Not Call List", I just had one of my absolute favorites do the ol' RFM and I told her Lo Siento so I am wondering if I am now on her "Do Not Call List" or if she will "forgive" me and try to get back in my good graces when I return.
I'm betting the latter. The money is too easy for them.
[QUOTE=Lou32;2043934]Regarding the "Do Not Call List", I just had one of my absolute favorites do the ol' RFM and I told her Lo Siento so I am wondering if I am now on her "Do Not Call List" or if she will "forgive" me and try to get back in my good graces when I return.
I'm betting the latter. The money is too easy for them.[/QUOTE]I put their RFM in the same category as my RFP. Very rarely does it create a problem for me, and sometimes I get lucky. I think their mindset is the same. Usually it doesn't cause a problem, and sometimes they get free money. I agree with you, she will probably act as if she never sent the RFM the next time you see her.
In an indirect way, I asked a Hooter's girl for sex. She acted insulted and asked if I was crazy. I told her I never know unless I ask. She continues to talk to me and asks me to sit in her section when I visit Hooter's, but now knows that I am a dirty old man. Who knows, she may tell her girlfriends and one of them may decide she can use some easy money.
So is it just me or are most prepagos fucking territorial? One of the chicas I banged in Cartagena posted a photo of herself and a friend of hers at a party. I sent her a message later complimenting her friend ('muy hermosa' I mean that chica looked stunning. She thanked me and I thought nothing of it. Well actually I did mention I'd be around Medellin soon and would love to meet her friend.
Today I discovered that evidently that earned me removal from her fb friends. WTF? Hahahaha.
Returning to MDE for a follow up visit next month; after a year long absence. Was in MDE in July right before all the shit hit the fan, with see Jake. I took a tour of the centro with Jake when I arrived to MDE and that was all I did with him. I am just a tad leery wondering since I did have some brief association with Jake and he did have my contact (whatsapp) info, if I might be on the Colombian LE's radar for whatever reason. We all know how toxic Jake was. I am also wondering if there were other guys that experienced some negative fallout for having associated with Jake.
Thanks.
If you're coming to Medellin doing the Facebook scene you need some restaurants for your "dates. " Here are some I recommend:
J&see Delicias. Good Colombian food, mostly featuring arepas. Several locations including Parque Lleras.
Sicilia en Bocca. Pizza restaurant not far from Parque Lleras. Good selection of personal size pizzas. Minimal seating.
Al Alma Cafe. Breakfast and lunch coffee shop. Food is very good. At La Strada mall and another location near Parque Poblado.
Patatas a cielo abierto. Start with your choice of potatoes topped with almost anything. Popular with couples. At La Strada mall.
La Strada mall. Several different restaurants to choose from. On Poblado Ave north of Hard Rock Cafe.
Sao Paulo Plaza. Good place for lunch. Several restaurants with 15 k lunch specials. On Poblado Ave at the south end of Poblado.
LOS Contenadores. A collection of several restaurants at the north end of Envigado on Las Vegas Ave. Not far from the Ayura Metro station.
Classic Diner. A 50's style American Diner. A bit overpriced, but a cool decor. In Envigado at La Fonda, a collection of a few restaurants. On Poblado Ave.
Crepes why Waffles. Located everywhere. Really good dessert selection.
Most of these places have entrees in the 18 k to 25 k range. All tend to attract upper middle class crowds.
It's a new restaurant in my neighborhood. It was surprisingly good.
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Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2056705]Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Victoria Secret sprays and lotions.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2056705]Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Rare treat? Peanut butter and Graham crackers. Both are hard to find and peanut butter is expensive. Any kinds of chocolate works too. Catch any of the clothing stores that are going out of business. I spent $50 at an American Eagle store that was shutting down and got 11 shirts and sweaters. Very well received.
I never would have thought of peanut butter and figured now that Vicky's is franchising their accessories stores (sprays and lotions), that they'd be all over Colombia by now. Good to know! I went by one of those Vicky's shops today that had a sale of a 4-pack of lotions for $10. I should have scooped up a few! I know those are always a big hit in DR!
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2056705]Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]What do women love the most beside $? Clothes.
I'd check [URL]www.Wish.com[/URL] they have super cheap women's stuff.
For my next trip I bought all this, $54 total including shipping.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2057079]Victoria Secret sprays and lotions.[/QUOTE]How about Victoria Secret lingerie?
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2057125]How about Victoria Secret lingerie?[/QUOTE]If you're a big spender, yes. But Rodeo said "little" gifts.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2057110]I never would have thought of peanut butter and figured now that Vicky's is franchising their accessories stores (sprays and lotions), that they'd be all over Colombia by now. Good to know! I went by one of those Vicky's shops today that had a sale of a 4-pack of lotions for $10. I should have scooped up a few! I know those are always a big hit in DR![/QUOTE]There's a Victoria's Secret in Centro Comercial Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2057213]There's a Victoria's Secret in Centro Comercial Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?
Bob.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2057317]So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?
Bob.[/QUOTE]I never suggested bringing VS. Haven't been in shopping, but I would guess higher price and a different selection in some areas.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2057317]So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?
Bob.[/QUOTE]Because one doesn't want to spend their valuable vacation time in Medellin shopping in a woman's lingerie store, I can only speak for myself but I would have better things to do with my time.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2057100]Rare treat? Peanut butter and Graham crackers. Both are hard to find and peanut butter is expensive. Any kinds of chocolate works too. Catch any of the clothing stores that are going out of business. I spent $50 at an American Eagle store that was shutting down and got 11 shirts and sweaters. Very well received.[/QUOTE]Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2057317]So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?
Bob.[/QUOTE]I think anything from the US is more expensive in Colombia. Also, several ladies have told me they cannot buy the proper size bra in Medellin. It seems the largest cup size is a "see". Any boobs larger than that, they increase the band size. Thus, the bra doesn't fit properly.
[QUOTE=Thebloke1;2057479] What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.[/QUOTE]Well last time I WhatsApp'ed my girl and got her sizes, she is out of town this time, so I got a mix of Small & Med, they like tight fitting stuff anyway.
[QUOTE=Thebloke1;2057479]Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.[/QUOTE]Actually, you can take peanut butter in a carryon. It's not a liquid, or any other banned item. I mentioned peanut butter because the OP asked about hard to find or expensive treats.
Makeup? I wouldn't bother. Women tend to be particular about their makeup and it's readily available. As for clothing, pick the size that fits the size of woman you prefer. They come in all shapes and sizes.
Unless you're trying to set up some long term arrangement with a complete stranger, why worry about anything too extravagant? If you meet one that you want to see again, bring something on your next trip.
If you really feel the need to bring gifts, and you plan on bringing them back to your place, buy some good scented body wash and a bottle of body spray. They can leave smelling better than when they arrived.
Here is a list of items I take every trip:
Chocolates. Kit Kat (most like those more than solid chocolate), Hershey's Kisses, Hershey's Miniatures Assorted Chocolates. After holidays (Easter, Valentine's Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas) many stores have them at half price. -.
Victoria Secret. Lip gloss, rollerball fragrances, lotions, body mists, panties, bras. I have to limit the amount of lotions and body mists because they add weight to my luggage very fast. Panties are mostly small, some extra-small and medium. Bras are small and medium. I don't bother with exact sizing of bras unless it is for someone I know. I wait for the sales at VS to buy the things.
Some of the things I take some times, because they are very expensive in Medellin:
Deodorants. It is difficult to find unscented there, and any is very expensive.
Shampoo. Any of the cheap brands are good, just make sure they smell good. I have noticed some of the ladies use my shampoo as a body wash when they visit me.
Cell phone chargers and cables (Android). Usually at least one lady will need those, and they don't take up much space.
This is not a complete list, but these are some popular items.
I took peanut butter one time, and my lady friend did not like it. The small jars of Jif are available there in most grocery stores for about $5.
[QUOTE=Thebloke1;2057479]Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about the rules on peanut butter, but it will likely be considered a liquid or gel, and not be allowed in the passenger cabin if the container is larger than 100 ML (3.4 oz).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2057114]What do women love the most beside $? Clothes.
I'd check [URL]www.Wish.com[/URL] they have super cheap women's stuff.
For my next trip I bought all this, $54 total including shipping.[/QUOTE]Just beware if you do use that site that the stuff all ships from China, of the 10 things I have ordered, 1 arrived on day 11, one on day 12 and the rest haven't arrived yet.
So order early!
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2060089]Just beware if you do use that site that the stuff all ships from China, of the 10 things I have ordered, 1 arrived on day 11, one on day 12 and the rest haven't arrived yet.
So order early![/QUOTE]I order quite a few things from China. Some will arrive in less than two weeks, but many will take a month or more. I try to order at least six weeks before I depart.
Wolf662 offers good advice. Order early.
[QUOTE=Jdit;2058318]I'm not sure about the rules on peanut butter, but it will likely be considered a liquid or gel, and not be allowed in the passenger cabin if the container is larger than 100 ML (3.4 oz).[/QUOTE]I think you're right. I had a problem once with a bottle of jam.
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Hi Guys,
Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.
Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.
Thanks, Nordico.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2063336]Hi Guys,
Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.
Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.
Thanks, Nordico.[/QUOTE]Taxis have an hourly rate. If I recall correctly it's around 27 k? Maybe less? The one I used had his prices posted on a sticker in his cab. There are also drivers who act as guides.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2063336]Hi Guys,
Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.
Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.
Thanks, Nordico.[/QUOTE]Santa Fe is in Bogota, unless you're talking about Centro Comercial Santa Fe in Poblado. If you plan on going around Santa Fe taking pictures, a cab is better. That way if you are injured when someone liberates your camera, you have a ride to the hospital.
Chances are, someone at the hotel or apartment you stay in, knows someone who will drive you around for a price.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2063347]Santa Fe is in Bogota, unless you're talking about Centro Comercial Santa Fe in Poblado. If you plan on going around Santa Fe taking pictures, a cab is better. That way if you are injured when someone liberates your camera, you have a ride to the hospital.
Chances are, someone at the hotel or apartment you stay in, knows someone who will drive you around for a price.[/QUOTE]I meant Santa Fé de Antioquia, which is 57 km from Medellin.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2063336]Hi Guys,
Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.
Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.
Thanks, Nordico.[/QUOTE]Here's a list of drivers / guides from World Traveler 69's complete list:
1. Juan Carlos, speaks good English and is cool and is honest and doesn't gouge the gringo. He'll take you on "special trips" or help you find casas, chicas. Etc. Rates: 25 k hour. 60 k airport pickup. Tel: 311-xxxx435, 313-xxxx366.
2. Bucky, Tel: 311 xxxx192, 31xx409. Speaks English.
3. Jaime Mira Estrada, Tel: 314 870 6228, (57) 317-793-5404. [EMAIL]jaime-medellintaxi@hotmail.com[/EMAIL] [URL]http://www.medellintaxi.com/[/URL].
4. William, he lived in the USA for 5 years so he speaks perfect English. Rates: 22 k Hour. 3 hours or more 20 k per hour. Cell: (573) 300-677-8058. [EMAIL]willisbestsupport@gmail.com[/EMAIL] [URL]www.willisbestguidemedellin.com[/URL].
5. Jimmy, he speaks English. Cell: 314 xxxx2 28.
6. Robert, makes sure you have a good time and you enjoy the stay. Feel free to call his USA landline 954-xxxx981 or cell 300 xxxx9 33.
7. Dino, Speaks Spanish only. Cells are: 300 xxxx211 or 315 xxxx010, Home 37xxx83.
8. Cesar's, cell number from USA is 011-57-315-xxxx390. From Medellin you just call the last 10 numbers: 315-514-3390. Cesar does not speak much English.
9. Gustavo, has lived in the USA, speaks very good English, understands and can relate to your needs. You can contact Gustavo directly, cellular in Medellin 311-388-3861.
10. Hector, speaks good English. Tel: 315 6xxxx87, 300 xxxx119.
11. Fernando, no English but knows everything in Medellin. Tel: 300-xxxx504. His Cells: from the USA 01157-xxxx26-7678, 313-xxxx670.
12. Nick, speaks English. Tel: 300 xxxx504.
13. Robinson, speaks English. Tel: 300 xxxx760, 311 xxxx913.
14. Andrea, she speaks English and has no car. Tel: 311 xxxx007.
15. Linton, cell is 311-xxxx712. He doesn't speak English but he knows where the street girls are. And he charged what was on the meter. Highly Recommended!
16. John Jairo, speaks English. This guy was really good about taking us on a tour of the SG's and Chica clubs. Tel: (310) xxxx3818.
17. Alvero, speaks English. Cell number from Medellin: 316-xxxx882. From the USA: 011-57-xxxx52-2882.
This list was created a few years ago, so inflation may have affected the rates.
Awesome list.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2063520].
14. Andrea, she speaks English and has no car. Tel: 311 387 0007..[/QUOTE]Hilarious. How does Andrea get you to where you need to go?
25 k to 30 k is about right. 'guides' will charge a premium if they think their English skills are worth that premium. If you are going outside of Medelland like Santa Fe then they might ask for an extra charge like 125 k plus their hourly rate. It's for the mileage I guess.
Don't go to Santa Fe alone. Get a chica with you. It's their cottage country.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2063166][URL]https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia[/URL][/QUOTE]The one I met and did inhouse in BarreEjectiva seemed normal and not desperate, the older one with her daughter I met in Maracaibo and did takeout turned out to be fairly desperate, no ID, no cel, nowhere to stay etc.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2063336]Hi Guys,
Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.
Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.
Thanks, Nordico.[/QUOTE]You can travel with an organized Spanish speaking group, probably around 70 K Not every day, but at least once a week, usually on Saturdays. Drivers may be more convenient for faster in and out of Santa Fe. Buses are cheaper.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2063166][URL]https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia[/URL][/QUOTE]I banged one in Cartagena, one in Medellin, and was offered her friends. In Santa Marta there is a club with mostly Venezuelan girls. A lot of the restaurants and bars have Venezuelans as regular workers. At the club in Santa Marta I asked a Colombian girl if she was mad at the Venezuelan girls, and she said no, they really need the money. I found the Venezuelan girl in Medellin on mileroticos. 3 of the 4 I banged gave great service. One was a dud. The three good ones did BBBJ no questions asked. BBBJ seems to becoming less common in Colombia overall.
Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.
[QUOTE=Prowler5599;2064127]Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.[/QUOTE]Where are you flying from? Satena flights into EOH are twin prop planes, not jets.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2064216]Where are you flying from? Satena flights into EOH are twin prop planes, not jets.[/QUOTE]I am starting in Bogota and was thinking of flying into Medellin. Supposedly they have some smaller jets (ERJ) in their fleet.
The dental thread seems dead. So I'll ask here. I went to a dentist recommended by someone I consider a friend, he is one of the people listed on ISG as a guide in Medellin. I came to the conclusion that my "friend" refers quite a few people to the dentist and gets a healthy referral fee. After I was a little surprised by the price and didn't say anything, he says OK, you are a friend of "the guide", I'll give you a discount. I'd be OK with the price, but I don't think he can actually do what I need to do. He came to the conclusion of 1 root canal and post and crown, remove an old crown and maybe work underneath it and replace it. Remove and redo 2 fillings, fix a cavity. Do the work and install 2 porcelain implants in the back. I had teeth just coming out the last couple years. Then he added cleaning and whitening. Originally it was about $3,000 USD. Then he made it $2480 USD. I'm sure in the US it would cost a lot more. But this guy was talking like he orders and old porcelain teeth and can have everything done very fast. He was trying to insist he might do it all in 1 day. I know that isn't reasonable or safe. And I thought for sure you have to take some measurements and do fittings. Not just order some teeth. He said all this before getting X-rays. He asked me to go across the street to get the X-rays and come back. The X-Rays were only 15,000 pesos. They did use a high-tech machine though. I came back and gave the dentist the X-Rays and he said he will have a look at them and see what else needs to be done.
Now I know one of the first things I dentist wanted to do in the US is get the X-Rays. Or have a quick look and get X-Rays. He was making all kinds of plans with no X-Rays.
Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2064670]Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.[/QUOTE]A guy who owns and rents many apartments in Medellin, and occasionally posts on here, has recommended Marcel Hincapie. His office is on San Juan Ave. You can do an internet search to find him.
I have personal experience with a dental clinic in Costa Rica. It is all-inclusive, everything is done on-site, including the lab where they make crowns. It is Costa Rica Dental Team. Again, find it on the internet. Their prices have increased in recent years, but still about 25% of US (Florida) prices for major procedures. You will have to make at least two trips to Costa Rica for the implants because they allow the gums to heal after installing the post before installing the final crown.
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2064670]
Now I know one of the first things I dentist wanted to do in the US is get the X-Rays. Or have a quick look and get X-Rays. He was making all kinds of plans with no X-Rays.
Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.[/QUOTE]Post your question at [URL]tripadvisor.com[/URL]. I know some of the people who respond are actually living in Medellin. You can also try [URL]http://www.expatexchange.com/colombia/liveincolombia.html[/URL] to post your question. Whichever Dentist you select, never let him / her to do all the work an one day. Let him to work on one tooth first. If you were happy with the result, make further appointments. You may have to select an specialist for root canal, another for Implant and another for General Dentistry. At least that is how it is in the USA. I would stay away from a dentist who recommends treatments without prior Dental X-Ray and Oral Exam.
[QUOTE=Prowler5599;2064276]I am starting in Bogota and was thinking of flying into Medellin. Supposedly they have some smaller jets (ERJ) in their fleet.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I did see a smaller jet flying in to EOH. I have a good view of the incoming flights from my apartment, although not close enough to make out which airline. I would give it a try. I prefer Avianca out of MDE for my trips to BOG, because they have enough leg room for me. But I do hate spending more time getting to the airport than I spend in the air.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2064960]Yesterday I did see a smaller jet flying in to EOH. I have a good view of the incoming flights from my apartment, although not close enough to make out which airline. I would give it a try. I prefer Avianca out of MDE for my trips to BOG, because they have enough leg room for me. But I do hate spending more time getting to the airport than I spend in the air.[/QUOTE]Here is not a whole lot from there. On their website they tell you the airline schedules. [URL]http://www.aeropuertomedellin.co/[/URL].
Thanks for the replies about a dentist in MDE. I found an Airbnb guy that owns a penthouse and stays in it, and co-owns a coffee farm, gold mine, and cattle ranch. I actually decided to stay in his Airbnb because he could help me with a few different things and I knew I could respect his opinion. I am staying here for a week even though No guests are allowed. It's Ok, for a week I can bang girls where they work. Anyways, he suggested go to Clinica Las Americas. I actually went there last month because a girl I was with and know very well had a baby with an unknown father. We did a DNA test there. That was only 250 K. In the same building hey have a large dentistry area. So far some of the costs are or will be: Exam, X-Rays, and cleaning were 166 K pesos. Further consultations and exam the next day was free. They have their own digital X-Ray system. The total cost for a root a canal and ceramic crown, no post, is 1,445,000 pesos. For my other teeth they suggested less work than the first dentist. They didn't try to get me to do extra stuff. They said I need 3 posts for 2 tooth implants on the lower rear. Cost for preparing for 2 implants, building up any bone if needed and temp crowns, 3 post, and 4-5 month later 2 implants is 5. 6 million pesos.
Luckily I am not a father.
As far as them speaking English, only the guy that will do the root canals can speak English. On my first day nobody spoke English. I don't know why they didn't get him to talk to me the first day. I got lucky and my Airbnb guy gave me a ride and was going to be my translator on he second day. But after we found out I didn't need a translator my Airbnb host left.
I got 2 more appointments next week. The dentist that can speak English is Guillermo Oliveros.
I'm curious as to why you need 3 posts for 2 teeth.
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[QUOTE=Prowler5599;2064127]Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.[/QUOTE]BOG to EOH via Satena to me is the better option than flying into MDE. I've flown with them twice this year. Satena has a small jet with about 50 people capacity. EOH is only about 5 minute cab ride to Parque lleras without traffic vs 45 minutes from MDE.
[QUOTE=HBoy54;2066103]I'm curious as to why you need 3 posts for 2 teeth.[/QUOTE]I thought it was odd also. But he said the gap between my teeth is bigger than normal. The two teeth are next to each other. I don't know if they plan on making the 2 teeth like one unit or something. He will do my root canal and crown on Tuesday. I can ask him then and if the service is scary or sucks I won't need to do the implants with them. Their website is [URL]http://odontologia.lasamericas.com.co/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2066098]Thanks for the replies about a dentist in MDE. I found an Airbnb guy that owns a penthouse and stays in it, and co-owns a coffee farm, gold mine, and cattle ranch. I actually decided to stay in his Airbnb because he could help me with a few different things and I knew I could respect his opinion. I am staying here for a week even though No guests are allowed. It's Ok, for a week I can bang girls where they work. Anyways, he suggested go to Clinica Las Americas. I actually went there last month because a girl I was with and know very well had a baby with an unknown father. We did a DNA test there. That was only 250 K. In the same building hey have a large dentistry area. So far some of the costs are or will be: Exam, X-Rays, and cleaning were 166 K pesos. Further consultations and exam the next day was free. They have their own digital X-Ray system. The total cost for a root a canal and ceramic crown, no post, is 1,445,000 pesos. For my other teeth they suggested less work than the first dentist. They didn't try to get me to do extra stuff. They said I need 3 posts for 2 tooth implants on the lower rear. Cost for preparing for 2 implants, building up any bone if needed and temp crowns, 3 post, and 4-5 month later 2 implants is 5. 6 million pesos.
Luckily I am not a father.
As far as them speaking English, only the guy that will do the root canals can speak English. On my first day nobody spoke English. I don't know why they didn't get him to talk to me the first day. I got lucky and my Airbnb guy gave me a ride and was going to be my translator on he second day. But after we found out I didn't need a translator my Airbnb host left.
I got 2 more appointments next week. The dentist that can speak English is Guillermo Oliveros.[/QUOTE]I want to correct something in this report. The dentist that speaks English: his name is Daniel Ruiz. Their website is [URL]http://odontologia.lasamericas.com.co[/URL].
Just curious if any guys have indulged in trimming a little off the waist and hips. What are the prices like and is it less or more expensive for guys than women?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2066901]Just curious if any guys have indulged in trimming a little off the waist and hips. What are the prices like and is it less or more expensive for guys than women?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm pulling your Man Card, hahahaha.
Does Bogota have a Semi-Pro scene similar to Medellin? I have not been able to tap into it.
If so, how are you finding them? Colombia Cupid? Tinder? Facebook? Clubs?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Cm6363;2067163]Does Bogota have a Semi-Pro scene similar to Medellin? I have not been able to tap into it.
If so, how are you finding them? Colombia Cupid? Tinder? Facebook? Clubs?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2067156]I'm pulling your Man Card, hahahaha.[/QUOTE]Speaking of man cards. I was looking at the Victoria's Secret website to find some thong panties for a lady friend in Medellin. For a particular thong, almost all the reviews were by men in various states who bought the panties for themselves. Is that a new trend, or have I been living in a bubble for years?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2067714]Speaking of man cards. I was looking at the Victoria's Secret website to find some thong panties for a lady friend in Medellin. For a particular thong, almost all the reviews were by men in various states who bought the panties for themselves. Is that a new trend, or have I been living in a bubble for years?[/QUOTE]Whoa! Man panties? Man-ties? That's just nasty! I did read that some dudes are sporting rompers. That is all-in-one shorts and shirt together. Surely, no guy that mongers in MDE would be caught in manties or rompers!
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2070446] ... Right now, in Medellin, there are about 20,000 women working as webcam models. There are perhaps 15,000 more in the rest of Colombia. Most of these models make very little money. Many of the ones making very little money are available for sex if you know how to approach them.
There are about 1000 models in Colombia who make a decent living, 1 to 3 million COP per month or so. Some of these are available for sex, but the price is higher and the approach much more difficult.
Perhaps 100 models are making in excess of 4 million COP per month in Colombia. Almost none of them are available for sex and the ones who are, are priced out of range of almost everyone.
I work with models from this group, or models who are good enough to get into this group. I've never claimed to own any multi-million dollar company. The closest I can claim is that I'm working with some models who do work for a multi-million dollar company.
The specific model I mentioned, I don't work with, never claimed to work with. She lives in a penthouse apartment in the same building I live in and we have mutual friends. Right now she is earning 600,000 tokens per month. 100,000 tokens is $5,000. Her earnings have increased substantially in the past 6 months and continue to increase..[/QUOTE]Good post.
I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.
What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?
Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?
I believe you, just a little shocked.
I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.
Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.
Must be some lonely cats out there.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2070474]Good post.
I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.
What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?
Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?
I believe you, just a little shocked.
I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.
Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.
Must be some lonely cats out there.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the Colombian webcam girls but I watched one of the top US girls make around $20,000 on her Birthday on Chaturbate. I was amazed!
[QUOTE=Balboa;2070474]Good post.
I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.
What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?
Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?
I believe you, just a little shocked.
I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.
Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.
Must be some lonely cats out there.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]One word differentiates most of them, Personality. There are a few that make great money for no apparent reason, but the majority it's all about personality. How well they connect with the viewers.
As for the type of show, it varies. I've seen some elaborate shows, professional body paint jobs, professional makeup, hair and nails that didn't do that well. I've seen basic shows without anything beyond topless that did very well.
It's not something you can understand. I once met a guy about 30 years old who was in love with a 70 year-old woman who looked rough. Try to understand that one. For some it's the ultimate thing. For others it's boring.
Definitely something I can not understand. This chick in Medellin keeps trying to do a webcam show for me because she is behind on rent. I told her I just do not understand it. I have no problem getting pussy so I have no desire to see a webcam show. Maybe if I was locked up in my mom's basement or something. But still, there is so much free porn including webcam shows, that I just can't fathom paying for one.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2070518]Definitely something I can not understand. This chick in Medellin keeps trying to do a webcam show for me because she is behind on rent. I told her I just do not understand it. I have no problem getting pussy so I have no desire to see a webcam show. Maybe if I was locked up in my mom's basement or something. But still, there is so much free porn including webcam shows, that I just can't fathom paying for one.[/QUOTE]I know guys who can't fathom paying for sex. I know guys who can't fathom having sex with anyone but their wife. Then there are guys who only want bareback anal with cheap hookers. Guys who only want black, white, blonde, redhead.
Knew of a CEO who, 25 years ago, paid women to come to his office and watch him masturbate. Just sit and watch.
Some things I can understand, some I can't.
There are guys on webcam sites that spend as much as $80,000 on a single tip. Some have spent even more. Why? Beats me, but I'm betting they aren't living in their mother's basement. I can tell you that quite a few of those guys are also frequent mongers. When they are stuck at home, they would rather chat and watch girls online than deal with the dating scene, or the US p4 p scene. When they can get to a mongering spot, they do that.
I guess most of them prefer the fantasy to their reality.
You are an assistant to a webcam small business and rent a room in a internet hookers apartment and call that success.
Now she made 6000 USD / month, yesterday it was 1 million US Dollars a year.
It's the most BORING activity that exist, except bring out the garbage!
I was offered to by a studio in Medellin for like 5000 USD. But my paisa friends warned me, saying that the studios lose money more often than make money. And if they make money it's the owner of Jazmin, MFC and the 1% top models.
My English was good enough to understand?
As I said, how have you achieved all this universal knowledge about what is good and bad, right and wrong.
Now you are calling my a pimp based on some funny %-based calculation on living expenses. So if I live alone and a girl moves into me and we share the expenses, that makes me a pimp?
She is not complaining at all, she even was surprised that I did not have an idea of charging her, which had been her main concern before. And yes; we have a strong connection emotionally. She does sex or escorting on dinners, travels with living persons to make a good income, instead of your sick admiration of girls that suck and fuck plastic dildos 8 hours a day and making conversation on a chlids level.
Marriage is necessary to get a visa, to get work permit, go to school, doctor etc.
Her friends coming over will do that as her friend, and their business are not my concern.
I usually get laid without paying more for the dinner etc. , or just a female friend comes to my apartment and are horny. But the best sex are of course with prepagos, but it takes time and money to find your favorites. Colombians, girls from those hot sunny countries wants sex and it's not a taboo, like in Anglo-Saxon countries. Anyway, it could be fun to have some Colombian girls here, changing like every 3rd months, even without any erotic benefits. I can assist them how to find a Boyfriend and future husband here.
Yes, if she is pulling tricks, I send her home right away. Paisas are such unpredictable and impulsive females, so you never know whats on her real agenda, nor does she does herself!
All this chat about Webcams reminds me. There is a new Netflix series called Turned on. It is a well made series of documentaries on topics related to modern day sexual issues. One of the episodes is about recruiting porn stars and webcam modeling. My take home message from that series is that girls that make money work very hard, over 8 hours a day and seven days a week and it takes consistent hard work to build a client base and an ex penthouse model goes on record to say that she makes $160,000 a year. Very interesting series. There is one episode about Tinder dating. I don't do either so I don't know first hand but I am fascinated to hear some posters saying that there are girls in Medellin making more than twice that. Good for them.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2070578]All this chat about Webcams reminds me. There is a new Netflix series called Turned on. It is a well made series of documentaries on topics related to modern day sexual issues. One of the episodes is about recruiting porn stars and webcam modeling. My take home message from that series is that girls that make money work very hard, over 8 hours a day and seven days a week and it takes consistent hard work to build a client base and an ex penthouse model goes on record to say that she makes $160,000 a year. Very interesting series. There is one episode about Tinder dating. I don't do either so I don't know first hand but I am fascinated to hear some posters saying that there are girls in Medellin making more than twice that. Good for them.[/QUOTE]There was another Netflix series that might have been part of Turned On, Hot Girls Wanted.
Here's the problem: There are several different sex work jobs for women. Exotic dancer, Model, Porn actress, Prostitute and Webcam model. While some of the skills in one help in another, they are not all interchangeable. Ever got a stripper who was a great dancer, but the sex was nothing special?
If you read the post below, which I don't recommend, Model the is a good example to use. As a model, she is great. Three different photographers have told me she is an incredible model. But a webcam model is about personal interaction, not about posing. She is no longer competitive because she just poses.
I've seen Playboy and Penthouse models in strip clubs who are boring. They don't have the skills. The women who make it to the top in nude modeling have one set of skills. They may have others which let them move to porn, dancing or webcam, but success in one doesn't guarantee success in another.
Right now webcam is the growth industry. Porn is trying to get onboard, because it has been stagnant. In the not too distant future, webcam and prostitution will do a partial merge. Technology is very close. Webcam is already starting to drift away from the pure sex aspect and more towards mainstream entertainment.
Hours worked is tough to calculate. Yesterday, after breakfast, my roommate looked in 6 stores to find the perfect top for last night's show. Afterwards we went to a sex store to look for a costume for another show. Didn't find the right one, but she found something for a completely different show. We then stopped at 2 other stores looking for show related items. While walking between stores we talked about different show ideas. How much of that is work? There's also an hour before and 30 minutes after of setup and teardown. Actual on camera time was 4 hours. Today has been spent taking selfies and getting my opinion and discussing the different shows. Some days she spends only 30 minutes deciding on the show.
If I measure just the time from when she starts putting on makeup and getting ready, to when she's taking off makeup, no more than 30 hours per week. She usually does 5 shows about 4 hours long plus prep and finish time. If I include everything, probably 90 hours, but most of that is while living her normal life.
Booked kinda last minute my flight back in Feb was American Airlines TPA-MIA-MDE $471. I was stupid and parked at the airport long term, turned out that was $19 a day, ouch.
When I flew down in June I did VivaColombia for $230, MIA-MDE-luggage incl. (You can get VivaColombia as low as $180 outa Miami if you can book the right days.) Parking at the Airport Hilton was $6. 50 a day. You have to book thru their website:
[URL]https://www.vivacolombia.co/en-co[/URL]
Copa does Orlando-MDE for $260+- (via Panama City).
[URL]https://www.copaair.com/en/web/us[/URL]
My next trip is on Spirit, TPA-FLL-MDE $306-luggage included.
Insert boo! Here, everybody hates Spirit, personally I think they are going to be way better when I flew Air Uzbekistan, flying in 1970's era Aeroflot cast-off YAK-40's with 1 bald landing gear tire, no seat belts and a choice of prune juice or tomato juice-their motto, "It's always scary!
Parking off property near TPA long term lot $5. 75 a day.
But I was looking into flying one of my sweeties up here next year and looking in April I actually found American Airlines for $307 MDE-MIA-TPA.
Any other airlines to consider for low fares?
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Hours worked is tough to calculate. Yesterday, after breakfast, my roommate looked in 6 stores to find the perfect top for last night's show. Afterwards we went to a sex store to look for a costume for another show. Didn't find the right one, but she found something for a completely different show. We then stopped at 2 other stores looking for show related items. While walking between stores we talked about different show ideas. How much of that is work? There's also an hour before and 30 minutes after of setup and teardown. Actual on camera time was 4 hours. Today has been spent taking selfies and getting my opinion and discussing the different shows. Some days she spends only 30 minutes deciding on the show.
[/QUOTE]I really hope your not funding all of this with your retirement savings. Running around with a hooker for hours buying dildos and shit.
I am not trying to sound like an asshole. Cities like Medellin are breeding grounds for fantasies. Be careful.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2070885]I really hope your not funding all of this with your retirement savings. Running around with a hooker for hours buying dildos and shit.
I am not trying to sound like an asshole. Cities like Medellin are breeding grounds for fantasies. Be careful.[/QUOTE]First off, I wasn't running around with a hooker. If you haven't grasped the difference yet, I can't help you. If you don't think there is a difference. Well we don't have much to talk about.
Let me think. I paid for the cab, 7200 pesos I think. My roommate bought breakfast, because she didn't have cash and wanted to use her card. She bought 2 shirts, she bought 1 costume and no dildos. We then checked out a few more stores on the way back to Avenida Poblado. Once there I hit an ATM, pulled out 720 k, first withdrawal in almost a month. I was down to under 300 k in cash. Then we walked down Avenida Poblado to PanAmericana where she bought a few other items. Next stopped at CC Santa Fe for lunch at Mitos. I paid for that, 32 k. Walked out of Santa Fe, caught a taxi home, which I paid 6100 for. My total expenditure for the day 45,300 COP, which included 2 meals.
I pay for taxis slightly over half the time, but meals, groceries and drinks are split evenly. I never buy anything for her shows, that I don't get reimbursed for. If I go to lunch with my boss, I almost never pay for anything.
Currently I'm spending about $600 per month including all expenses, food and entertainment. My income is more than enough to cover it. I think I'll be alright for a little while.
As for fantasies, don't you think I'd be getting laid more if this is just some fantasy? Probably at least a few 3 somes as well. Instead, I'm averaging about 1 session every week and all but 1 through the standard Medellin P4P scene. If it's a fantasy, it's not my best work.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2070934]First off, I wasn't running around with a hooker. If you haven't grasped the difference yet, I can't help you. If you don't think there is a difference. Well we don't have much to talk about.
[/QUOTE]All I am saying is a 50 year old shopping for dildos with his webcam 'model' roommate is a bit much. But to each his own. I mean we just had someone talk about their dick pic sexting in the main thread and how quickly that went south.
Be careful. If your numbers are real on what these women are making you are going to attract attention. You don't get to bring in tens of thousands of dollars a month without someone greedy noticing.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2071031]All I am saying is a 50 year old shopping for dildos with his webcam 'model' roommate is a bit much. But to each his own. I mean we just had someone talk about their dick pic sexting in the main thread and how quickly that went south.
Be careful. If your numbers are real on what these women are making you are going to attract attention. You don't get to bring in tens of thousands of dollars a month without someone greedy noticing.[/QUOTE]Lmao. You seem to be fixated on dildos. No dildos were shopped for, although we did get a laugh over a giant Hitachi. She doesn't need to buy dildos. One of her viewers will buy her anything she wants. And why the quotes around model? You're welcome to hit me up whenever you're in town. I think I can put an end to your doubts. If I remember correctly, I dropped you a PM a while back offering to meet up.
I'm not too worried about attracting greedy people. I'm more at risk from the mongers I meet, than from anyone else.
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2070950]The person behind the profile JjBee62 is considered mentally ill I have got info. From mongers met him, and they can't stand him. [/QUOTE]Jack, you seem like an ok guy, very philosophical and rambling at times, but with a decent heart.
If you don't like JjBee's replies, posts, advice, etc, just ignore him.
What you should do is just consider his advice, take what you like and discard the rest.
I always found it prudent to run an idea by various people and hear their opinions.
Never hurts to hear what advice others may have.
It doesn't mean you have to follow it, you ultimately make your own decisions right?
As far as Webcam girls and income goes, I get it and find it fascinating that some girls have found a niche to make good money.
There are plenty of guys stuck in pussy prison, if they find paying a beautiful and sexy girl to interact with them comforting and satisfying, good for them and the girl as well.
Fulfills a need.
JjBee has found an "in" to live and enjoy Colombia.
Good for him.
I hope you find you're "in" as well.
There's enough for all of us.
I like you better as a philosopher than an angry argumentative guy.
Peace brotha.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2071106]
I'm not too worried about attracting greedy people. I'm more at risk from the mongers I meet, than from anyone else.[/QUOTE]If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.
Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).
Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.
Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2071122]If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.
Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).
Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.
Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.[/QUOTE]I disagree, this board always migrates into a discussion about some off topic or another.
The Webcam subject is no different.
His Webcam roommate is his business, I wouldn't post any more info on her either if I was in his shoes.
Protective is a good thing.
He's posting in a chit chat thread.
Let the chit chat roll.
Peace.
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.
My main MDE girly from Conejitas it out of town working down in the islands. Waaah.
So going out again with the 1st girlie I met in MDE, my hottie redhead Sofi (met her on SA). She is a spitfire in bed.
She is going to bring her friend with her to play too. (Per my request, LOL. That'll teach her to post friends pics on FB! Yea! We'll do dinner, then some dancing, then to a love hotel with a Jacuzzi for some more fun! I think I am going to try 3 the Suites this time, their rooms look nice.
Only issue we had last time was when her hair is wet it turns sheets and pillow cases red. LOL. I turned the pillowcases inside out and turned the sheets over last time at Eros love hotel. Then back at my hotel I tipped the maid to ignore the red pillowcases. LOL.
I am getting psyched! Woohooo!
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/[/URL]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2071153]I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.[/QUOTE]JBee will pull plenty of song and dance out of his ass to get around that. At the end of the day, he only wants attention in the only place he has a chance of getting it, the internet. Don't give it to him.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2071122] Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people
Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.
Clear your head man..[/QUOTE]The guy is fine as long as you sit at his feet letting him spoon feed you his unsurpassable wisdom. It's only when challenged that the problems begin, ie. The defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. The guy would have made a good religious leader, missed his calling. Lololol.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2071122]If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.
Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).
Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.
Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.[/QUOTE]That's always the problem with this medium, nuance doesn't translate well. I don't fear anything from other mongers. Worst case, one or the other is boring or obnoxious.
As for the webcam business, it was brought up and questioned, so I elaborated.
Now to my roommate. I consider her to be a good friend. I'm pretty sure she feels the same. If someone goes out of their way to insult my friends, I get defensive. Do you consider that wrong? Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
I will try to get back to being more helpful.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2071153]I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.[/QUOTE]Your information came from an article in SoHo magazine, with information from Juan Bustos. Nice guy and one of the big names in the Colombian webcam business. The website MyFreeCams has a monthly contest for their top model. Winner gets $1000. They list the top 250 models on the contest. Not too long ago, a glitch in their system also listed each model's token earnings for that pay period. They pay twice per month. At the end of each pay period, all tokens are converted to cash and paid to the models. The link below, from Juan Bustos website, shows the top 20 models. The top 4 all made over $50,000 for the pay period, or over $100,000 for the month.
https://juanbustos.com/mfc-top-20-models-make-a-lot-of-money/
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2071153]I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.[/QUOTE]Those numbers seem more likely to me. That said, I don't know a thing about the webcam industry. And I don't know why anyone would do it. Though I guess there's no risk of pregnancy or STDs!
Well, if someone moved in with me I wouldn't pay all the rent just because my expenses didn't double. Just as I wouldn't expect someone else to pay the rent if I moved in with him / her.
Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do.
Thirdly, I have no problems to understand what CJ writes in English. On the other side neither I nor CJ are native English speakers. I'm also pretty certain that few native English speakers speak two languages as good as CJ does.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2071153]I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends..[/QUOTE]Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2071512]Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do..[/QUOTE]I guess you're the authority on what a "normal" or "good" girl is.
Thanks for enlightening us.
[QUOTE=Combo;2071302]Those numbers seem more likely to me. That said, I don't know a thing about the webcam industry. And I don't know why anyone would do it. Though I guess there's no risk of pregnancy or STDs![/QUOTE]Do you think they do it for the money possibly? Lol.
Why else?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2071512]Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do.[/QUOTE]So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2071532]So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.[/QUOTE]I mean hardcore in the sense that they are exposing themselves for the world to see in a way which even few prostitutes (that I've met) would. To block Colombia doesn't help very much when someone put their pics and vids all over the web.
My other point is that I don't see the big difference between camgirls and prostitutes that some people like to paint. I've met several university students working in the puticlubs during the summer in Spain.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2071532]So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.[/QUOTE]All the cam sites I'm familiar with allow the models to block content from any country. For the US they allow individual states to be blocked. With every website except 1, using a VPN will bypass the block.
I'm not sure what he means by hardcore either. Granted, the easy way to get a little money on webcam is to go straight to dildos, anal, etc. There are a lot of studios that do that. Convert a cheap building to 20 tiny rooms, toss in a cheap mattress, and stick a girl in each room for 8 hours. Pay the girls $30 - $40 per day and keep the rest. These are the equivalent of the girls you'll find working the streets in Centro or Mayorista. Most of them are interchangeable, camgirl or hooker.
Not all girls, or studios fit into that category. For anyone interested, the current top Colombian model is probably DulceMoon. Ranked #12 on MyFreeCams. That probably puts her monthly earnings around $65,000 USD.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2071582.]I'm not sure what he means by hardcore either.[/QUOTE]You don't know what someone means when they say a working girl is hardcore? When you are done typing statements like that is there even the smallest part of you that realizes how absurd that sounds?
[QUOTE]
Not all girls, or studios fit into that category. For anyone interested, the current top Colombian model is probably DulceMoon. Ranked #12 on MyFreeCams. That probably puts her monthly earnings around $65,000 USD.[/QUOTE]You are off by a factor of 10. She probably earns 6,500 a month before expenses. Which is great in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2071526]Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?[/QUOTE]
Because he likes to believe this fantasy so he fulfills some of it by writing out big posts detailing everything. You have never met someone and who will endlessly talk about their nonexistent success?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2071729]You don't know what someone means when they say a working girl is hardcore? When you are done typing statements like that is there even the smallest part of you that realizes how absurd that sounds?
You are off by a factor of 10. She probably earns 6,500 a month before expenses. Which is great in Colombia.
Because he likes to believe this fantasy so he fulfills some of it by writing out big posts detailing everything. You have never met someone and who will endlessly talk about their nonexistent success?[/QUOTE]You have never met me either.
When someone tells me a particular prostitute is hardcore, unless I know him, I don't know what he means. Is she hardcore because she gives a PSE instead of a GFE? Is she hardcore because she does BBFS with anyone? Is she hardcore because she's jaded and just wants to do the least possible for the money? Maybe she's hardcore because she does some extreme fetish stuff.
Without some context, I'm not certain what he means. This is more difficult, because he said every camgirl is hardcore. If I told you every prostitute, including those "semi-pros", was hardcore, would you know what I meant? I wouldn't.
There are models who are using 3 different sex toys simultaneously. There are models who do on cam gangbangs and orgies. There are models who never show any nudity. There are models who play the guitar topless and sing. Which definition of hardcore fits all these models?
I'm not sure what I did to make you an adversary YK. But as I said I'm not here to please everyone.
[URL]https://juanbustos.com/mfc-top-20-models-make-a-lot-of-money/[/URL]
As mentioned before, not too long ago, a glitch in the software at MyFreeCams, listed the period monthly tokens earned by the top 250 models for that period. A period is from the 1st day of a month to the 15th, or from the 16th to the last day of the month. So the amounts listed are roughly one half of each model's earnings.
The same glitch, also listed archived model earnings back to 2009. For awhile that information was available at a few different sites, but MFC has been requesting removal. Without a more exhaustive search, this is the only one that is still around. It's also from a source who I trust. He's frequently contacted by the Colombian press as a source for stories about the webcam industry, he's a leading figure in the webcam world, and I've shook his hand and had a few talks with him.
According to what was revealed in that glitch, the #12 model made 621,923 tokens for that period. 1 token = $0.05 to the model. Double that to approximate monthly earnings and her monthly earnings in dollars was $62,192.30.
I was able to find a video which shows the top 20 MFC models for each month back to 2009. It also shows top 100 rankings, with token earnings for at least some months of 2015, the year the glitch occurred. The number directly below the ranking is the end of month period token earnings. For Feb 2015, the #100 model made over 262,000 tokens for the 2nd period of February, about $26,200 for the month.
[URL]https://youtu.be/zn372cRuqXM[/URL]
Look at the first link for a quick snapshot, watch the video if you want a more detailed history.
Or around the 20th of the month, find out who is the leader of the rankings on MFC. Watch that model for the rest of the month. See how much she makes in public tips. On that website people can send hidden tips, only the model sees the amount. Popular models also get about 10% of their earnings from offline tips and sale of content. In 10 days you will have an idea how much a top model makes.
If you want a closer approximation, check out the top models on Chaturbate. Keep track of their tips for a few days. Do the math.
The reason I write long, detailed post is to provide details. I prefer to give the tools and information so people can make informed decisions. That way you don't have to believe me. You can discover the facts on your own.
Fantasy? I've read thousands of reviews here and quite a few appear to be complete fantasy. Others are the occasional review-ad for a Bogota escort agency. As fantasies go, this would be pretty boring.
This started months ago, when someone posted that all the webcam models are available for P4P. I responded. More recently a few have decided to insult all webcam models. I respond, just as I have responded when people insult all prostitutes or all women.
I speak about it from knowledge and experience. I've opened the books and placed them before you. The knowledge is right in front of you. You can decide what to do with it.
And that's all I have to say about that.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2071526]Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?[/QUOTE]Why do people lie about being associated with famous people? It gives them prestige until the truth is exposed. As for what difference does it make, most of us come to this forum with the expectation of getting factual information.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2071859]Why do people lie about being associated with famous people? It gives them prestige until the truth is exposed. As for what difference does it make, most of us come to this forum with the expectation of getting factual information.[/QUOTE]Oh Ok, he's going to lie about befriending and rooming with a Webcam girl to get prestige, and then lie about Webcam earnings.
I'm sure lots of guys are truly needing exact factual Webcam girl income figures as well.
Not sure what the hostility is about the Webcam subject, unless maybe someone is remorseful about over spending on Tokens last week, LOL.
Peace amigo, not that big of a deal.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2071582]
Granted, the easy way to get a little money on webcam is to go straight to dildos, anal, etc. There are a lot of studios that do that. Convert a cheap building to 20 tiny rooms, toss in a cheap mattress, and stick a girl in each room for 8 hours. Pay the girls $30 - $40 per day and keep the rest. These are the equivalent of the girls you'll find working the streets in Centro or Mayorista.
[/QUOTE]Most girls working the streets in el centro or Mayorista can't even make 30 to 40 bucks a day in an 8 hour period doing webcams. So you would be out of business very fast.
My girlfriend that I lived with in Cali for over a year was a webcam girl on MFC and she made 50 bucks an hour on average for every hour she spent in front of the cam. I opened a studio account with MyFreeCams and had anywhere from 3 to 5 other chicks working the cams and rarely did all the other women combined ever earn more than what my girlfriend earned per hour.
In most industries 20 percent of your employees earn you 80 percent of your profits. In webcams it is more like 10 percent earn you 90 percent of your profits.
I have to say I have never been interested in porn. And was quite shocked to find out what some of the top performers make on MFCs.
It is impossible to know for sure what any single performer makes unless she works for you or she shows you her account.
But my girl had a webcam score of around 5000 and made 50 bucks an hour so I would think girls with a 25,000 cam score would be bringing in at least 250 bucks an hour.
Here is a chick that could be working in el centro:
https://profiles.myfreecams.com/KLEIIO
She has a webcam score of 386 and is probably making about 4 bucks and hour doing webcams.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2072039]Not sure what the hostility is about the Webcam subject, unless maybe someone is remorseful about over spending on Tokens last week, LOL.[/QUOTE]Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.
FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2072198]Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.
FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.[/QUOTE]There's a problem with information from the internet. It's not always reliable. Oftentimes it's deliberately slanted to support one viewpoint. Other times things are changed to protect people. It can be tricky finding the right answers.
The SoHo article your information came from falls in the last category, at least in my opinion. The source of the article wants his models to be on cam 8 hours per day. This was a topic we discussed over lunch yesterday. The models I work with, I don't want online more than 6 hours and I prefer 4. Molly Brooke doesn't work for him. None of the models in that article work for him to the best of my knowledge. The income numbers he gave are very low and he knows this. Other entries on his website, including the one I linked, confirm this.
I've personally seen a single tip of 50,000, of 44,000, and perhaps 20 between 15,000 - 30,000. I've heard of single tips of 999,999, of 1,200,000, and 1,100,000. Tips of over 2000 tokens are uncommon. Tips of 1000 - 2000 I see daily.
All of this is something you'll never believe, which has zero effect on my income. Anyone with questions or doubts, or who just wants a wingman for a few hours can always hit me up.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2072198]Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.
FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.[/QUOTE]Haha, hostile? Me? That's funny.
Anyway, whatever, all good.
Have a great day and happy hunting!
Peace.
I'll be in Colombia in a couple of weeks and for the first time Medellin won't be on my itinerary. Actually I have made Cartagena only trips before so it's not the first time, but certainly the first time I spent almost two weeks in Colombia without spending a weekend in Medellin. The plan is visit Bogota for the first weekend and stay in Cartagena the following week. As many of you know there's a papal visit in Colombia during labor day week. I asked a couple of chicas in Cartagena if it would affect things and they both thought I was hilarious. I was assured pussy would continue to flow.
I decided to prepare for the worst, so as some of you may remember, I've had the cunning idea of getting a Medellin casa girl to go to Cartagena with me to save on money. On my last trip there was a chica I was inviting over for nooners and barebacking like the cerdo that I am. Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so so, and I didn't care about attitude so much with her. I'd happily bend her over, fuck her while she watches TV. But unreliability sucked. I asked her if she wanted to come to Cartagena. She jumped on the idea. I told her when I 'd be there and what dates she wanted to visit on. She wanted the entire week. She asked me to send money for a bathing suit and I will probably break my rule of not sending money. She's going to need cash for beach things, a visit to the beauty salon, and cab fare.
I have only two concerns:
Will she be able to get on a plane? She has never flown before.
Will she not let me fuck other chicas? I told her I had a venezuelan I'd be screwing too and she wasn't against the idea but seemed a little let down by it. My hope is by day 3 she gets tired of the constant fucking and sets me loose hahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2073289]I have only two concerns:
Will she be able to get on a plane? She has never flown before.
Will she not let me fuck other chicas? I told her I had a venezuelan I'd be screwing too and she wasn't against the idea but seemed a little let down by it. My hope is by day 3 she gets tired of the constant fucking and sets me loose hahaha.[/QUOTE]If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.
If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2073289]Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so so[/QUOTE]And you want to pay for her to fly to Cartagena and stay with her for a week? It could come up all roses for you, but I wouldn't put any money down for it to go well.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2073328]If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.
If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Unfortunately avianca is expensive around this time. I think its because of the Pope running around and people flying out to see him. I'll assume she's good for the whole week. I've known her for six months now, visited her twice, and her behavior has always been complacent and sweet. Her poor attitude is more like doing dumb shit like watching TV while I fuck her. Oddly enough I've come to enjoy it. I'm going to get her to cook me breakfast and see if I can fuck her while she's cooking hahahaha. I'm fucked up like that.
Let me re-address the first question, as I think it goes beyond the question of ID. I have met many Colombianas who are deathly afraid of flying. I had one girl who agree to go with me to Cartagena and then backed out on my two days before the flight because she admitted she was just too afraid to fly. She offered to take the bus, but I declined.
Just be sure you ask her if she is comfortable flying for the first time. It will help if you are with her (not just meeting here there) and you tell her you can give her something to relax her (booze or muscle relaxer).
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2073328]If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.
If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2073342]Unfortunately avianca is expensive around this time. [/QUOTE]Have you checked VivaColombia? It should be much cheaper than Aviana.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2073289]I decided to prepare for the worst, so as some of you may remember, I've had the cunning idea of getting a Medellin casa girl to go to Cartagena with me to save on money. On my last trip there was a chica I was inviting over for nooners and barebacking like the cerdo that I am. Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so so, and I didn't care about attitude so much with her. I'd happily bend her over, fuck her while she watches TV. But unreliability sucked. I asked her if she wanted to come to Cartagena. She jumped on the idea. I told her when I 'd be there and what dates she wanted to visit on. She wanted the entire week. She asked me to send money for a bathing suit and I will probably break my rule of not sending money. She's going to need cash for beach things, a visit to the beauty salon, and cab fare..[/QUOTE]I can't imagine flying in a Cartagena girl to MDE, are the girls just not as fun / pretty / cheap in Cartagena or what? Or is this chick extra special? (which is hard to imagine if she watches TV during sex. LOL).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2073861]I can't imagine flying in a Cartagena girl to MDE, are the girls just not as fun / pretty / cheap in Cartagena or what? Or is this chick extra special? (which is hard to imagine if she watches TV during sex. LOL).[/QUOTE]In Cartagena most chicas will want 200 k+. You can get them at 150 k with some haggling but there's no 10 dollar pussy. Not even in the local brothels. The venues are typically expensive unless you pick up at the clocktower. It's the most expensive mongering venue in Colombia. It's also super convenient with more things to do. I'm tired of Medellin.
My idea is to get a cheap chica from Medellin (this one works out of a casa) to Cartagena and bang her for practically nothing. Planet ticket + food / drinks + a few hundred mil at the start for her shit. Most of these paisa putas haven't left the interior so going to Cartagena is a big deal for them. I have a couple of other chicas I fuck regularly there. They won't go below 200 k for short time, and I don't ask. Trying to haggle for less is a pain in the ass I find.
The upside of Cartagena compared to Medellin is that there's shit to do during the day. The casa scene isn't big and it's more flooded with chicas from all over Colombia and Venezuela. I read once that after 10 pm, in Cartagena, one in three women walking outside is a hooker. The clocktower plaza in the old city is really a site to behold at midnight; it literally is a crowd of working girls.
Worse case scenario I change her return ticket to be earlier. My only concern is her attitude when I'm bringing back other chicas to fuck. She better be a good sport or I send her back to Medellin.
So if chicks in Cartagena go for 200 K and you have regulars from Medellin that you give 200 K to, what is the difference? It appears you just want a hole to stick your dick in judging from the description of your encounters with the girl you want to bring with you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2073929]So if chicks in Cartagena go for 200 K and you have regulars from Medellin that you give 200 K to, what is the difference? It appears you just want a hole to stick your dick in judging from the description of your encounters with the girl you want to bring with you.[/QUOTE]200 k for short time in Cartagena. A plane ticket and a few hundred k for all you can eat if you fly her in. There's a difference.
Yes, I want a hole I can fuck (bareback) on a regular basis without shelling out 200 k everytime I get whorney. Hence, flying in pussy from a cheaper location.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2073914]My idea is to get a cheap chica from Medellin (this one works out of a casa) to Cartagena and bang her for practically nothing. Planet ticket + food / drinks + a few hundred mil at the start for her shit. [/QUOTE]Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.
Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2074103]Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.
Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.[/QUOTE]What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2074103]Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.
Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.[/QUOTE]I planned a similar situation once, elsewhere, except I was meeting her and travelling together to the beach. The closer it got to the trip, the more she was expecting. Night before meeting, I started adding it all up and figured my 3 days was probably going to cost above $500, not counting transportation and hotel.
Made my excuses early the next morning, made up a plan be and went to the FFP plan, Find, Fuck and Pay to leave. The next 6 days cost $500, transportation, lodging, food and women. Saved enough to extend my return flight for 2 days and still came in under budget.
Main difference, I was dealing with a "semi-pro" and he's looking for a casa girl.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2074118]What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.[/QUOTE]As I said, it is your life. I was only pointing out some of the pitfalls you may encounter. But you already know everything, and I am just the pessimistic know-nothing. Have fun!
You cannot control tsunamis, but you should be able to control what you do.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2074156]As I said, it is your life. I was only pointing out some of the pitfalls you may encounter. But you already know everything, and I am just the pessimistic know-nothing. Have fun!
You cannot control tsunamis, but you should be able to control what you do.[/QUOTE]OK. I overreacted. Apologies.
Not concerned about handing her cash at the end. She knows I'm not paying her for her time but that doesn't change anything. She constantly asks for rent money and other shit which I never give her and she mostly stopped trying to pull that shit months ago. She knows if I get to fuck her like a cerdo she's going to get rewarded in the end.
Does it all come out to cheaper? For me it does. If you go back to some of my cartagena reports I've banged 4-6 chicas in one day. That adds up fucking quickly in Cartagena. In Medellin the brothels allow me to do 3 sessions during the day (morning, after lunch and after a snack) for cheap. I can't do that in Cartagena and it's annoying and expensive. Hence, I try to wife up in Cartagena. Only difference is this time I'm shipping one in.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2074161]OK. I overreacted. Apologies.
Not concerned about handing her cash at the end. She knows I'm not paying her for her time but that doesn't change anything. She constantly asks for rent money and other shit which I never give her and she mostly stopped trying to pull that shit months ago. She knows if I get to fuck her like a cerdo she's going to get rewarded in the end.
Does it all come out to cheaper? For me it does. If you go back to some of my cartagena reports I've banged 4-6 chicas in one day. That adds up fucking quickly in Cartagena. In Medellin the brothels allow me to do 3 sessions during the day (morning, after lunch and after a snack) for cheap. I can't do that in Cartagena and it's annoying and expensive. Hence, I try to wife up in Cartagena. Only difference is this time I'm shipping one in.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your excursion with the Paisa, Yippie.
Looks like you've got a back up plan, send her home early, LOL.
I personally would never do a "vacation", with a chica who wasn't really into me, even if she wasn't charging me.
Appears that doesn't matter to you, so enjoy, have fun, give us a full post battle report, LOL.
Buen viaje!
Anybody in town for Labor Day weekend, the 1st weekend of every month is the craft fair in Parque Bolivar, downtown-they have lots of cool stuff for sale, many neat souvenirs.
That's the park in front of the big brick church, the Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medelland, Calle 56 & Ave Oriental.
I know you have to order a bottle to sit at a table, anybody know what the small bottle of Aquardiente costs?
My wingman got the tab last time but he's not coming this time. LOL.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2075345]I know you have to order a bottle to sit at a table, anybody know what the small bottle of Aquardiente costs?
My wingman got the tab last time but he's not coming this time. LOL.[/QUOTE]Could have sworn it was 40 k in parque lleras but we're talking the small bottles. The medium sized ones were 70-80 k. It will of course be cheaper in centro.
edit: sorry. I didn't notice you wanted pricing at the strip club.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2075832]Could have sworn it was 40 k in parque lleras but we're talking the small bottles. The medium sized ones were 70-80 k. It will of course be cheaper in centro.
edit: sorry. I didn't notice you wanted pricing at the strip club.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, the small bottle is 16 k on the corner from my hotel in Centro, but FaseII, lords knows, I never even saw the bill, we had a bottle and my wingman bought at least half a dozen chicks drinks, must have been a arm and a freaking leg.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2074254]Enjoy your excursion with the Paisa, Yippie.
[/QUOTE]Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.
Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2077825]Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. [/QUOTE]Well no one saw that coming!
But like you said, no sweat in a place like Colombia.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2077825]Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.
[/QUOTE]Wait a minute. But you said...
I guess experience is the best teacher. Maybe that will be the last time you invite a chick that plays with her phone and watches TV when you are fucking her along to go anywhere. At least it did not cost you as much as it could have.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2077825]Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.
Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.[/QUOTE]I think everyone has a "great plan" experience that everyone warns against, which falls apart. Next year when someone else plans a similar adventure you can join the "negative Nancies. " If nothing else, you've provided a learning experience for others.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2074118]What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.[/QUOTE]You should be safe from tsunamis while you're in Bogota.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2077921]Wait a minute. But you said...
I guess experience is the best teacher. Maybe that will be the last time you invite a chick that plays with her phone and watches TV when you are fucking her along to go anywhere. At least it did not cost you as much as it could have.[/QUOTE]Yes. I think I tried this once before with similar results. I'm not doing it again. One in maybe twenty of these prepagos are worth spending a thought on. That's my philosophy from now on. At least I didn't send dick pix and a million pesos. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2077825]Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.
Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.[/QUOTE]Nice job though, canceling the ticket and ignoring her.
Silence goes a long way.
I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.
I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?
Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2077954]I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.
I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?
Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.[/QUOTE]If you're on Colombian Cupid you should also sign up on Latin American Cupid. Include a few pictures in your ad, mention your travel plans and start reaching out to the ones you like.
Any replies mentioning long term relationship reply with "I'm sorry. I will only be there for X days. I'm only looking for someone to have lunch or dinner with while I am there (or someone to show me the city). "
There will be a few who will go for lunch or dinner. You can decide if they are worth pursuing.
If your initial message stresses the short term tourist angle you'll get a few who'll quickly let you know they are available. Get them on Whatsapp as quick as possible. Anyone with a FEPSM (Family emergency, please send money) message should get a reply that you would be happy to give them money after you meet response. Or just don't reply.
CC and LAC aren't great options, but there are a few who are worth the effort.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2077954]I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.
I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?
Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.[/QUOTE]You have to be careful about propositioning women outright on CC because you can get your account closed down if too many women complain.
The best way to use CC is to just meet the women in person and make them an offer if you like their looks and attitude.
But if you don't have time to use that kind of hit or miss approach then you should just make a profile that makes it obvious what you are looking for without coming right out and saying it.
Something along the lines of "I'm a generous gentleman that would like to meet an attractive woman for fun and adventure". There is very little chance of that being misinterpreted. And then you can openly discuss P4 P with any woman that responses to your profile without having to worry about your account being closed down.
Is tinder any better with immediate results?
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2078532]You have to be careful about propositioning women outright on CC because you can get your account closed down if too many women complain.
The best way to use CC is to just meet the women in person and make them an offer if you like their looks and attitude.
But if you don't have time to use that kind of hit or miss approach then you should just make a profile that makes it obvious what you are looking for without coming right out and saying it.
Something along the lines of "I'm a generous gentleman that would like to meet an attractive woman for fun and adventure". There is very little chance of that being misinterpreted. And then you can openly discuss P4 P with any woman that responses to your profile without having to worry about your account being closed down.[/QUOTE]
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.
There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?
My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).
So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2082870]I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.
There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?
My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).
So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?[/QUOTE]Prices are about the same. There are a few advantages to Medellin.
The big one is the weather. Bogota can be chilly, especially at night. Can be cold when it's raining. Medellin is in low to mid 80's most days, high 60's at night.
Traffic is another issue. It's bad in Medellin, but worse in Bogota. It sucks sitting in a taxi realizing it would be quicker to walk.
Bogota elevation can be rough on the older, out of shape mongers. No fun gasping for air after 3 minutes. Medellin is about 4000' lower and easier to adjust to.
I think the average taxi is also cheaper in Medellin. Plus, the Metro is a cheap alternative and much better than the Transmilenio.
People overall are nicer and friendlier in Medellin. Bogota people aren't as outgoing. There's also a better gringo support network in Medellin.
There's no area that is a huge difference between the two, but the little differences all lean towards Medellin.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2082870]I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.
There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?
My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).
So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?[/QUOTE]Simple answer. WEATHER! I've been to Colombia many times and I've never bothered with Bogota because it's supposed to have dreary weather. Whereas MDE is close to ideal.
As far as women, Bogota might have more as it's significantly more populous than MDE. But MDE has enough.
Good answer.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2082960]Prices are about the same. There are a few advantages to Medellin.
The big one is the weather. Bogota can be chilly, especially at night. Can be cold when it's raining. Medellin is in low to mid 80's most days, high 60's at night.
Traffic is another issue. It's bad in Medellin, but worse in Bogota. It sucks sitting in a taxi realizing it would be quicker to walk.
Bogota elevation can be rough on the older, out of shape mongers. No fun gasping for air after 3 minutes. Medellin is about 4000' lower and easier to adjust to..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2082870]I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.
There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?
My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).
So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?[/QUOTE]Some good opinions already made by some other verteran mongers, let me add my two cents:
I actually traveled to Bogota many times for about a three year period from 2009 through about 2011, I have some great experiences with rollo chicas, a few nights were off the charts as I partied like a rock star, but that was back 7 and 8 years ago and have not mongered in Bogota in over 5 years now as back in 2010 stated with the Paisas in medellin.
You can find plenty of suitable fun and adventurous chicas be it in medellin or Bogota, for me the weather in medellin hands-down blows away the cold and rainy Hi altitude medellin weather and is a big deciding factor for me and others.
I sit right now in my apartment in medellin and we had just a brief sprinkling of rain this morning but right now it is 70 f outside and I sit here in shorts with my balcony door fully opened.
As for chicas, we have a wide variety of venues, casas, prepagos, escorts, street walkers and the higher end clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos. Just a few hours ago I enjoyed a 20 yo escort, low mileage, cute and adorable, I paid 200,000 plus her taxi, her fee was 150,000 but since her service was GF like experience, and it was, I gave her a 50 mil propina. She was the third escort I have had over in the past 8 days. I will repeat with her.
The medellin casa girls can be had for about 50 mil to 100 mil depending the length of time and the casa.
I suggest that you visit medellin next trip, you will be back.
TTM.
I thought I would post what I have experienced from SA girls in the last 2 weeks.
A lot are just looking to send pics or a video for a payment via western Union. I found one with her tag Mia rosse she is a 10 awesome body. She got me to send money for a video and then today she wanted more money, she said for a dress to meet me in and laungerie but I have some panties for the girls. So when I said no money until we meet she said no.
A few have stopped talking when I make it clear I want them to meet me at my hotel for a short time.
This sight is probably more of a YMMV if you are close to their age, which I am not. This method is harder than the strip clubs or massage house, it requires more time. Make sure to use WhatsApp and I use google translator it makes it easier. Not sure what's going to happen when I meet in person translation app are cumbersome to use while in a conversation.
I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2083702]I thought I would post what I have experienced from SA girls in the last 2 weeks.
A lot are just looking to send pics or a video for a payment via western Union. I found one with her tag Mia rosse she is a 10 awesome body. She got me to send money for a video and then today she wanted more money, she said for a dress to meet me in and laungerie but I have some panties for the girls. So when I said no money until we meet she said no.
A few have stopped talking when I make it clear I want them to meet me at my hotel for a short time.
This sight is probably more of a YMMV if you are close to their age, which I am not. This method is harder than the strip clubs or massage house, it requires more time. Make sure to use WhatsApp and I use google translator it makes it easier. Not sure what's going to happen when I meet in person translation app are cumbersome to use while in a conversation.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Disclaimers 1ST: I am a noob to this site, and am still in process of doing my homework here; however, not new to mongering. Therefore, please take my 2 cents and combine it with your specific knowledge about MDE area. Being a noob, I have two options. A) keep my mouth shut and learn from the senior members, or B) contribute, knowing senior members will chime in and correct me.
I decided to contribute.
I have utilized SA many times with mixed results. When screening for a SB on SA, the thing to keep in mind is that SA is no longer a new site. Word has gotten out, and all kinds of chickas flock there. Some of them are new and testing the waters. Some of them are genuinely looking for a SD. And, as you might expect, many are on the site to make a quick buck. Example: I found a couple of chicka profiles on SA that were obviously also on P411. LOL.
If a chicka hits you up for $ after a couple of days of chit chat on the phone with some story that she is desparate. That should be your queue to move on.
Why?
Common sense.
Reverse the situation. Imagine you were the chicka on SA. If you were genuinely looking for a long term SD, would you be hitting him up for $ two skype conversations later, never having met him face to face? What effect does that have on your longer term relationship with him, not to mention what expectations you might be setting yourself up for when you do meet face to face?
Consider that, and one will likely agree that probability of her genuinely wanting to meet you face to face just dropped by about 70 percentile.
In my experience, SA has some diamonds. But you have to put in a lot of time and effort in weeding out the riff raffs. That is why I choose not to hunt on SA much any more. Most I do is put my profile up with an upfront tag line, and see who bites. And if I do get a bite that seems genuine, I don't ask her for her lifestyle expectations. That is like asking a kid what kind of candy they want.
LOL. Instead, I like to take the lead and tell them what I am willing to commit to. Works better for me.
Hope that helps.
And thanks to everyone for the wealth of info on this site. Expecting to be in MDE in the next 45 days or so and check out some of the delicacies of your wonderfuly city.
[QUOTE=Fubar1;2084700]If a chicka hits you up for $ after a couple of days of chit chat on the phone with some story that she is desparate. That should be your queue to move on.[/QUOTE]To me this is the dumbest shit ever and the ultimate red flag. You mean out of all the family and friends that this person has come into contact throughout their life, how do they gather the wherewithal to ask a complete stranger for money. I would feel like a total jakass if I just asked Fubar for some money, not knowing him from Adam, when I know thousands of other people personally that I could ask. But like they say, your first time doing anything is the hardest. Once they have gotten up the balls to ask the first couple of people, it just starts to roll off the tongue naturally.
[QUOTE=Fubar1;2084700]Disclaimers 1ST: I am a noob to this site, and am still in process of doing my homework here; however, not new to mongering. Therefore, please take my 2 cents and combine it with your specific knowledge about MDE area. Being a noob, I have two options. A) keep my mouth shut and learn from the senior members, or B) contribute, knowing senior members will chime in and correct me.
I decided to contribute.
I have utilized SA many times with mixed results. When screening for a SB on SA, the thing to keep in mind is that SA is no longer a new site. Word has gotten out, and all kinds of chickas flock there. Some of them are new and testing the waters. Some of them are genuinely looking for a SD. And, as you might expect, many are on the site to make a quick buck. Example: I found a couple of chicka profiles on SA that were obviously also on P411. LOL..[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangements is, for most people, especially those visiting Colombia, a waste of time and money.
Like every adult oriented match website, many of the profiles are fake, generated by the website to increase traffic. Many others are from people looking for guys to scam. Add in those looking for a Western Union novio, the prostitutes who know they can charge double or triple and a few desperate aging women, hoping for a ticket out of poverty and over half the profiles are a waste of time. What remains are mostly unrealistic expectations.
To contact anyone on the site it costs a minimum of $80 for a 1 month subscription, or the price for an over-priced 10 in Medellin plus taxi both ways. Or the price of 4 sessions in a Centro casa, plus 3 meals.
If you're looking to pay a woman a minimum of $400 per month, plus the money spent each time you see her, plus gifts, plus money for the inevitable and frequent emergencies, SA is the place to be.
If you're looking for sex in Medellin, SA is like paying an escort agency for a session, for the privilege of trying to set up a session.
Other options:
If you're a normal person the opportunities are unbelievable. From streetwalkers who cost less than a large size combo meal in the US to the high end strip clubs where you might spend $200 if you're partying hard. 95% of the p4 p opportunities are cheaper than 1 month on SA.
I suppose there are a few guys who are so incredibly handsome and smooth that the women on SA, who all signed up specifically to get compensated for dates, will fuck them for free. So $80 per month to SA makes more sense than the price of 10 trips to discos.
I have never used SA, and do not plan to. There are too many other options.
However, if a good chunk of the profiles on SA are fake & generated by the site to build traffic. Well, that is a low way of doing business that I have no respect for.
I don't think this counts as a review, since I didn't get laid, so I'll put it here.
Started my Sunday afternoon watching football at Jenson's with a few other mongers. Talked a while before walking a block over to Lleras with 2 guys. Stopped at the bar next to The Charlee Hotel, which has 3 for 1 drink specials. Sorry, I don't know the name of the place.
Afterwards we went to Envy, which is Charlee Hotel's rooftop bar with swimming pool. If you want to impress a woman, just let her see the drink prices. Pretty close to US prices. Very nice place, with great views. Might be a spot if you're trying to connect with upper class non-pros on a Friday or Saturday night.
Next stop was Gusto. Cover charge is 10 k, I was told. We didn't pay. The bar starts filling up at 10 pm and was still full at closing time (4 am Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 2 am all other days). Music was typical Colombian dance music. Not sure about drink prices. One of the guys ran a tab, and paid for everything. Sunday night there were 10 - 15 working girls. All looked very good, by someone's standards. One was tall with the plastic Barbie body. Gorgeous if that's the look you like. One was blonde, short and curvy, heavier than I like. I can't help with prices. The only one I heard was much lower than anyone would believe. Although she seems to be working for a long-term relationship. If you're into the party scene, Gusto is a good choice.
Last stop was Fahrenheit, an after hours club just half a block from the Ayura metro station. Dress was mostly casual. Music was electronic played too loud. Place was packed until 5:30, and still busy at 6 am. At least some of the girls are p4 p. I'm sure there was a cover, but I can't remember how much. If you're into hard partying all night, this is your place.
Envy -.
Calle 9 a #37-16.
Hours: Sun and Tues 9 am - 10 pm, Mon 12 pm - 10 pm, Wed. Sat 9 am - 2 am.
[URL]http://thecharlee.com/envy-roof-top[/URL]
Gusto -.
Calle 9 a #38-26.
Phone: 300 444 6200.
Hours: Sun. Wed 9 pm - 2 am, Thurs. Sat 9 pm - 4 am.
[URL]http://gusto-nightclub.business.site[/URL]
Fahrenheit -.
Carrera 42 # 79 - 125 ItagI, Medellin.
Phone: 574 354 6203.
Hours: unknown. Until 8 am?
[URL]https://www.discotecafahrenheit.co[/URL]
Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.
Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).
Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.
I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.
One of five homicides on Thursday. Kind of brings it home when someone on here actually knows a victim.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2096918]Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.
Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).
Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.
I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your loss brother. May she RIP.
C5.
[QUOTE=Chris561;2097080]Sorry for your loss brother. May she RIP.
C5.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, yeah while I usually try to stay off the radar of foreign police, not this time, I looked up the website for the Colombian National Police and emailed them the serial # and model and make of the laptop I bought her to take to Saint Maartin this summer so she could stay in touch with her family via Skype, her GF told me it was missing from her place so hopefully I can be of some help to catch or convict the sub-human who killed her. (it was on closeout on Dell for $230).
May she RIP and her killer burn in Hell.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2096918]Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.
Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).
Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.
I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.[/QUOTE]I never knew her but may her soul rest in peace. Yes most likely a jealous ex-BF. Very sad. This gives me pause to reflect how discrete I need to be with some of the girls I have meet and befriended.
TTM.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2097297]I never knew her but may her soul rest in peace. Yes most likely a jealous ex-BF. Very sad. This gives me pause to reflect how discrete I need to be with some of the girls I have meet and befriended.
TTM.[/QUOTE]It really brings to home just how dangerous Colombia can be for Colombians. We worry about our own safety but I can't think of a single person I know who would do me physical harm where I live.
Sorry for your loss Wolf.
That is fucked up. Condolences for the loss of your friend Wolf.
[QUOTE=HBoy54;2097041]One of five homicides on Thursday. Kind of brings it home when someone on here actually knows a victim.[/QUOTE]I had an acquaintance who was killed in Medellíand a few years ago. American of Latino descent who spoke Spanish.
Medellin, while much safer than 20 years ago, is still a dangerous place.
[QUOTE=Combo;2097458]I had an acquaintance who was killed in Medelland a few years ago. American of Latino descent who spoke Spanish.
Medellin, while much safer than 20 years ago, is still a dangerous place.[/QUOTE]Not to take away the from your friend which is very horrific but I've heard of this time and time again. A girl that worked at Chicago club a few years ago was found chopped to pieces in a garbage bag by the river in Tijuana. The murderer was none other than the DJ who was also her novio. Not sure what made him snapped but it sucks. This is just one of the many I've heard. Another was a time I was in Nicaragua while I was talking with a girl in the club, she just told me about her girlfriend in the hospital from an attempted murder by her novio. Be careful and keep it just professional, getting too close could get you caught in a bad place.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2097461]Not to take away the from your friend which is very horrific but I've heard of this time and time again. A girl that worked at Chicago club a few years ago was found chopped to pieces in a garbage bag by the river in Tijuana. The murderer was none other than the DJ who was also her novio. Not sure what made him snapped but it sucks. This is just one of the many I've heard. Another was a time I was in Nicaragua while I was talking with a girl in the club, she just told me about her girlfriend in the hospital from an attempted murder by her novio. Be careful and keep it just professional, getting too close could get you caught in a bad place.[/QUOTE](Be careful and keep it just professional).
That is some of the best advice I have seem concerning working girls. Not only for safety, but also money wise as if you get hooked on a girl then western Union is almost sure to follow.
Some of you might remember my attempt at taking a Medellin casa chica para llevar the last time I went to Cartagena. I managed in refunding the ticket when she put up demands for rent and shit to be paid before she left. My luck in Cartagena was fantastic, 12 million pesos in black jack winnings, a trip to Cholon on my own cruiser fucking away through the week. She nagged the fuck out of me on whatsapp during the trip so I started responding with photos of my wild ride and nothing else.
Fast forward three months later, I'm gearing up for my next trip. Out of nowhere she messages me HOLA COMO ESTAS VAS A VENIR CARTAGENA? Lalalala. Now she's begging. I wouldn't give her a second chance if I didn't love fucking that bubble butt haha. I'm going to regret it but I'm going to try this ONE MORE time. I'm going to have her call me on Saturday and lay out the ground rules.
She totally just wants her photos in Cartagena and to get out of the shit hole she lives in in Medellin.
You'd better hope you win at the casino again.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2098810]Some of you might remember my attempt at taking a Medellin casa chica para llevar the last time I went to Cartagena. I managed in refunding the ticket when she put up demands for rent and shit to be paid before she left. My luck in Cartagena was fantastic, 12 million pesos in black jack winnings, a trip to Cholon on my own cruiser fucking away through the week. She nagged the fuck out of me on whatsapp during the trip so I started responding with photos of my wild ride and nothing else.
Fast forward three months later, I'm gearing up for my next trip. Out of nowhere she messages me HOLA COMO ESTAS VAS A VENIR CARTAGENA? Lalalala. Now she's begging. I wouldn't give her a second chance if I didn't love fucking that bubble butt haha. I'm going to regret it but I'm going to try this ONE MORE time. I'm going to have her call me on Saturday and lay out the ground rules.
She totally just wants her photos in Cartagena and to get out of the shit hole she lives in in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Don't do it my friend. Trouble waiting to happen. Cartagena is a place most Colombia chicks never make it to unless they are privileged. This chick wants you too pay her rent before you take her on a trip to Cartagena? LOL. How does that make any sense?
Just curious, when will you be back in Cartagena?
C5.
[QUOTE=Chris561;2098961]Don't do it my friend. Trouble waiting to happen. Cartagena is a place most Colombia chicks never make it to unless they are privileged. This chick wants you too pay her rent before you take her on a trip to Cartagena? LOL. How does that make any sense?
[/QUOTE]I'll see if she learned her lesson. She left me a really disturbing message this morning. Yesterday she had some dudes photo in her whatsapp status so I joked if her boyfriend wants to come as well. She snapped insisting she was using her sisters phone because her broke and how she was single. I hadn't heard her voice so distressed before. Last time I tried this she told me she has never been on a plane. In any case, I agreed ahead of time how much I'd send for taxi + day at the salon getting her nails done and then got her a ticket on LATAM from Medellin. I feel kinda bad for her. She's probably never left Medellin. Just [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor with a shitty life.
Now if she shows up with a shitty attitude I can always buy her a one way back to Medellin and wash my hands of things.
BTW, how is LATAM? I've never flown it. Always Avianca but they're out of seats for the days I wanted.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099454]I'll see if she learned her lesson.[/QUOTE]Looks like she is seeing if you have learned your lesson.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2099460]Looks like she is seeing if you have learned your lesson.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are the one whipped, buying her a ticket back?! Bro, if you are in the land of P_ssy, why are you stress on her. There are many more who are much cooler and why even bother? All the red flags are flapping in the wind. Your just not seeing it. Sorry to be harsh but some one has to tell you like it is. One other note, once she is there, the headache will be even worse. All she has to do is call the police and say you are abusing her and off you go to try and explain the situation from a jail house. Don't get caught in drama in another country.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2099474]Sounds like you are the one whipped, buying her a ticket back?! [/QUOTE]She's a great lay.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2099474]
Bro, if you are in the land of P_ssy, why are you stress on her.
[/QUOTE]This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2099474]
All she has to do is call the police and say you are abusing her and off you go to try and explain the situation from a jail house. Don't get caught in drama in another country.
[/QUOTE]I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.
Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099477]She's a great lay.
This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.
I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.
Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.[/QUOTE]I admit I've been there before but as soon as a flag goes up, I cut it off. Luckily, I was able to get my money back and still had a good time by myself. Gave me an opportunity to see what was available without bringing sand to the beach.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2099483]I admit I've been there before but as soon as a flag goes up, I cut it off. Luckily, I was able to get my money back and still had a good time by myself. Gave me an opportunity to see what was available without bringing sand to the beach.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Especially if you're going for the first few times. More often than not it causes problem. But I want to grow a little and try something new. I just spoke with my Venezuelana in Cartagena and she called me loco but said she's game for 3 ways.
In a few weeks time it'll either be a report of a great time or a short post letting everyone know what a nightmare I had, hahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099513]I totally agree. Especially if you're going for the first few times. More often than not it causes problem. But I want to grow a little and try something new. I just spoke with my Venezuelana in Cartagena and she called me loco but said she's game for 3 ways.
In a few weeks time it'll either be a report of a great time or a short post letting everyone know what a nightmare I had, hahaha.[/QUOTE]Good luck mi friend, hope you have a nice time.
Looking forward to see that report.
The sad thing is that will be one less chick in Medellin for me, planing to arrive Monday afternoon.
Kukulkan.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099477]She's a great lay.
This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.
I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.
Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.[/QUOTE]My friend I'm rooting for you that all goes well. This chick must truly have some really good pussy bro! LOL! I've been there! I was addicted to this one beautiful mega Booty blonde who worked in 4 x4 in Rio. Couldn't get enough of fucking her. I went thru so much shit with that shit it was unbelievable. Just when I called it quits she would come over and fuck my brains out and we called off the break up. Lmao!
Needless to say, that relationship is ancient history now. But the memories will last me forever. Good luck brother.
C5.
QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099454 I'll see if she learned her lesson. She left me a really disturbing message this morning. Yesterday she had some dudes photo in her whatsapp status so I joked if her boyfriend wants to come as well. She snapped insisting she was using her sisters phone because her broke and how she was single. I hadn't heard her voice so distressed before. Last time I tried this she told me she has never been on a plane. In any case, I agreed ahead of time how much I'd send for taxi + day at the salon getting her nails done and then got her a ticket on LATAM from Medellin. I feel kinda bad for her. She's probably never left Medellin. Just [URL=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/URL] poor with a shitty life.
Now if she shows up with a shitty attitude I can always buy her a one way back to Medellin and wash my hands of things.
BTW, how is LATAM? I've never flown it. Always Avianca but they're out of seats for the days I wanted.[/QUOTE]I thought Vivo Colombia was cheapest flight to Cartagena from Medellin?
C5.
Recently I was sitting and talking with my friends when someone decided to join the group. More accurately, he decided to try and lure one or both of my friends away from me. I suppose he saw 2 young Colombianas sitting with an old gringo and figured they would rather be sitting with him.
He was wrong. However, it was entertaining and I learned a few new words, although I already knew "bobo" and "idiota.
In the US if you see a group and are interested in one of the women, you cut her from the herd, get her more interested in you, than in her friends. In Colombia that doesn't work, except with prepagos. It doesn't even work with prepagos if they are out with friends having fun, instead of out with friends trying to make some money.
Colombianas go out with friends to be with their friends. They are happy to add new friends, but aren't likely to abandon their group. The trick is to figure out who is the center of the group and impress them. Wit and sincerity work well. Name dropping doesn't work. You can be the guy who shaves Ozuna's head and nobody cares, unless you can get him to show up. There's also a risk with name dropping (or other bullshittery). Sometimes, someone else knows him (or in this case, her).
If you see a guy talking with 1 or more girls, talk to the guy. If there's any room or options for you, someone will let you know.
Hola Dudes,
Anyone know, either in Poblado or Envigado, where you can get a passport photo taken? I need to get my 90 day visa extended. Bringing a couple of these photos is one of the requirements.
Thank You,
Judd.
[QUOTE=Judd;2119711]Hola Dudes,
Anyone know, either in Poblado or Envigado, where you can get a passport photo taken? I need to get my 90 day visa extended. Bringing a couple of these photos is one of the requirements.
Thank You,
Judd.[/QUOTE]I took my own photos and did the online submission. I don't know why they require it, because they take your photo and fingerprints at the Migration office.
This is just an experiment to see if I can spell Bogot and Medelland correctly. I. e. With accented characters - in a recently posted report it seemed that I wasn't able to.
(added via Edit) Bogotá was correct but now in Edit it has been changed to Bogot. Medellin (but with an accented i ends up as Medellín.
This week a few Davivienda ATMs at bank's have had a max of 2 million cop per transaction. Normal max is 720 k.
Today, after I hit a casa in Centro, I found a place that can take a passport style photo. The location is on the corner of Maracaibo and Oriental. It's on the side of the street heading towards New Life. It will be the first business you see on the left side of the street once you cross Oriental. Cost was 6. 9 mil or $2. 25 USD. BTW, lineup at Sexy Amigas 2 was very weak.
Late,
Judd.
Good info on the passport photos. As general info, if in a large city and needing passport photos, in a pinch go to an embassy. A lot of them will have photo places right nearby. Paraguayan embassy in Buenos Aires conveniently has one in the same block. Conveniently, this place appears to be owned by one or more relatives of one or more of the chicas who work in said embassy. Conveniently, the women who work in the paraguayan embassy are all so good looking that by the time I got done with that place, my dick was so fucking hard that I did not have enough skin left to blink my eyes.
Hey guys, I have a question for anyone who has stayed in both Argentina AND Colombia for extended periods of time.
How does Medellin compare with Buenos Aires in a general sense?
I'm talking about everyday living. I understand that's different for everybody, but I just wanted an idea of how the two compare. I'm sure that someone else has spoken of it, but times have changed over the last few years, so I thought I'd ask anew. I like to stay in apartments because I don't like being controlled on my comings and goings. But I always stay in the historic center of a city so I can walk everywhere, and those are usually safer. In BAs I stayed in a fully-furnished short term apartment in San Telmo, which was perfect (except for the dogsh*t everywhere hehelol). I was wrapped in history, bohemian intellectualism, everything was walking distance, especially really REALLY good restaurants, for a tenth of what I'd pay in America for the same. As far as the weather goes, I'm looking to escape the triple-digit summer heat of where I come from and figured this would be a really nice way to do it. S America stays nice and cool so I'm going to be there for about 6 weeks, and in that sense, I am on a budget.
The only thing about BAs is that the mongering scene is also dogsh*t (read that forum, trust me). From what I gather, Medellin does not have that problem.
But what of the rest of it? What are the practicalities of living there compared to living in BAs? Is "walking" also synonymous with "hopscotch"? A warm thanks in advance for the help!
I think you know the answer but IMO Medellin has the advantage only in chicas and weather (eternally spring) and perhaps ease of movement because it is a much smaller city. In terms of culture, food and non-mongering nightlife there's no comparison. Medellin is really provincial in many ways while BsAs is a world capital on par with Paris or New York.
Hola Dudes,
I went down to the immigration office this morning to get an extension on my Tourist VISA since my 90 days were up in a couple of days. At a cost of only 92 mil, its a much cheaper and less hassle option than to book a flight out of the Country and re-enter.
Colombia allows you to file a 90 day extension as long as the following do not apply. You do not stay more than six months consecutively. You cannot stay more than six months in one calendar year.
An article in Medellin Living broke down the items you needed in order to get the extension processed. Things have slightly changed. You no longer need to fill out any paperwork at the immigration office, nor do you need to bring any passport photos. They will take your photo + prints at the office. What's now required is to fill out an application on their website, upload a copy of your passport info section, and print a verification page showing the app was registered. You will not be able to see an Immigration Officer unless you have this printout which states your application was, "Registered Successfully Completed.
Bring this page along with your passport, copy of your passport photo / info page + copy of entrance stamp. Again, the cost is 92 mil. Keep in mind, they do not take cash, only credit cards. Cash payments are taken by a specific bank. The Medellin Living article has this info. Another option if you only have cash is to have another customer whose waiting pay with their credit card, and you pay them with pesos.
On the application, they will ask for a person to contact in case of an emergency. I used a friend in the States, but couldn't put in his real address since it's coded for a Colombian address. I used the address for the apartment I'm renting here in MDE and was not asked to verify. The Agent asked for a local phone # in addition to my US cell #. I gave him the guys number whose renting the apartment to me, and he said that was fine.
Total time it took to complete this process was about two hours. However, if I would've filled out the app prior to arriving, it would've saved me about an hour. Since I didn't register online, I had to go to an Internet cafe around the corner, and get that completed. Here's the link to the online app. [URL]http://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/index.php/es/[/URL] Navigating on this site is a bit confusing. Find the menu icon and click "Tramites", then, "Cedula de Extranjeria". Click it and you should be taken to the online app.
Oficina de Migracion Colombia.
Address: Calle 19 #80 A-40, Barrio Belen, Medellin.
Try to get there when it opens at 8 in the AM before it gets busy.
Late,
Judd.
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2124077]I think you know the answer but IMO Medellin has the advantage only in chicas and weather (eternally spring) and perhaps ease of movement because it is a much smaller city. In terms of culture, food and non-mongering nightlife there's no comparison. Medellin is really provincial in many ways while BsAs is a world capital on par with Paris or New York.[/QUOTE]I actually don't know the answer at all, but you def gave me some very good key info. Again, thank you. So medellin has my favorite season as year round weather. WOW!! Chicas are top notch. Even better. I'm just trying to figure out if this is a place I can park my butt for about 3 weeks or so. I need the opinions of others as much as I need the facts HAHA!
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2123836]Hey guys, I have a question for anyone who has stayed in both Argentina AND Colombia for extended periods of time.
How does Medellin compare with Buenos Aires in a general sense?
I'm talking about everyday living. I understand that's different for everybody, but I just wanted an idea of how the two compare. I'm sure that someone else has spoken of it, but times have changed over the last few years, so I thought I'd ask anew.[/QUOTE]I've never been to BsAs, but I'll give what I know of Medellin.
The historic and traditional center is El Centro, which is not a generally safe area. I know several people who always stay there with no problems. I also know several people who are terrified of the area.
If you're going to have a lot of down time, you might run out of things to do in 3 weeks. I've heard many complaints that there's nothing to do here. I've also heard plenty of "I don't want to do that" when I offer suggestions. If you're the type who really wants to find something to do, you will find plenty. If you're the guy who just wants something to complain about, you'll find plenty of reasons to complain.
Food is cheap. You can find a complete meal for about $2 including drink, typically fruit juice. The public transportation is very good and taxis are cheap. Walking is my preferred transportation and I average about 5 miles per day. In some areas you need to watch your step, not only for doggy treats, but because sidewalks are terrible. People are friendly.
The mongering scene has been slow the last 10 days, but there were still options available. It is already picking up quickly. If you're coming in summer you'll have more options than you'll ever have time for.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2124458]I've never been to BsAs, but I'll give what I know of Medellin.
The historic and traditional center is El Centro, which is not a generally safe area. I know several people who always stay there with no problems. I also know several people who are terrified of the area.
If you're going to have a lot of down time, you might run out of things to do in 3 weeks. I've heard many complaints that there's nothing to do here. I've also heard plenty of "I don't want to do that" when I offer suggestions. If you're the type who really wants to find something to do, you will find plenty. If you're the guy who just wants something to complain about, you'll find plenty of reasons to complain.
Food is cheap. You can find a complete meal for about $2 including drink, typically fruit juice. The public transportation is very good and taxis are cheap. Walking is my preferred transportation and I average about 5 miles per day. In some areas you need to watch your step, not only for doggy treats, but because sidewalks are terrible. People are friendly.
The mongering scene has been slow the last 10 days, but there were still options available. It is already picking up quickly. If you're coming in summer you'll have more options than you'll ever have time for.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2124639]Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best.[/QUOTE]One thing you might consider is "Real City Tours Medellin". The walking tour is conducted in English and is free (although they would greatly appreciate tips at the end, if you enjoyed it). The tour is 3-4 hours long during the day in El Centro. You'll learn a lot about the history of Medellin. How some of the parques came into being. My trip was with about 25 people and only 1 other American (the rest were European). It was fabulous. Botero plaza, Parque de Las Luces, Parque Bolivar. They have other tours also which I will try on another occasion. There is also a coffee tour but it's expensive and an all day affair. I hear it is superb (especially if you're a coffee aficionado). Take the Metro-Cable to some of the barrios, or the Escalator to the top of Communa 13. As Jjbee said "if you're a doer" you're not going to have a single boring day.
If chica quality and cost are the top two criteria, then Medellin is your place. Not as cosmopolitan as BsAs but to a foreigner, plenty exotic enough.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2124639]Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best.[/QUOTE].
Here's something to do.
I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH!
If you are a paid member you should be able to get access to the Medellin Google map.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2130846]I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2130859]If you are a paid member you should be able to get access to the Medellin Google map.[/QUOTE]I absolutely AM a paid member, both on this board and on Argentina's separate board. Where can I find the map? (or am I just blind?
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2130963]I absolutely AM a paid member, both on this board and on Argentina's separate board. Where can I find the map? (or am I just blind?[/QUOTE]I made a map for downtown use where most the action is, PM me a email address and I will send you one, the one I post here gets reduced in size a bit and gets blurry.
Sorry I deleted the post.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2130846] Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. ![/QUOTE]There is a 1/2 HR video on the MED adult scene on this page: (has about a min and half musical intro with hot Colombianas) The prices on the vid are a little high because the peso has dropped since then:
[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL]
I'm just going to drop this here.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2130846]I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH![/QUOTE]There are 3 main P4 P scenes in Medellin.
1.) casas. Like Thai massage parlors.
2.) strip clubs where you can take the girls next door for short time.
3.) Facebook freelancers.
Personally I only go to Medellin for the Facebook girls. Someone else can give a better lowdown on the casas and strip clubs. Because prostitution is legal (only pimping is against the law), Medellin has a huge freelance scene. The only place I can think of that has a larger freelance scene is probably Pattaya, but it's way easier to find hot freelancers and arrange appointments with them on Facebook than on Thaifriendly or Badoo. It also doesn't hurt that Medellin is famous for having beautiful women.
BTW, the post before mine is advertising a Super Bowl party being put together by Jonesie who runs a different forum. He throws together parties like that sometimes and invites freelancers to come. The fee that the guys pay helps cover taxi costs for the girls and then the guys and girls arrange their own appointments themselves. I've never been to one of his parties, but it's a great example of how the freelance scene works in Medellin. Nobody's pimping the girls and the girls won't go with you if they don't like you, but everything's so convenient that it's super easy to arrange meetings with beautiful girls with much less hassle than anywhere else in the world.
[QUOTE=Richmond72;2136527]3.) Facebook freelancers.
Personally I only go to Medellin for the Facebook girls. Someone else can give a better lowdown on the casas and strip clubs. Because prostitution is legal (only pimping is against the law), Medellin has a huge freelance scene. The only place I can think of that has a larger freelance scene is probably Pattaya, but it's way easier to find hot freelancers and arrange appointments with them on Facebook than on Thaifriendly or Badoo. It also doesn't hurt that Medellin is famous for having beautiful women.[/QUOTE]So how do I get in touch with facebook freelancers in Medellin?
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2124716]If chica quality and cost are the top two criteria, then Medellin is your place. Not as cosmopolitan as BsAs but to a foreigner, plenty exotic enough.
.[/QUOTE]I agree. And if you are into outdoors activities (non-sexual I mean) then Medellin wins over Buenos Aires, too. Medellin sits in the middle of a beautiful mountain range which goes up to volcano peaks above the snowline (LOS Nevados near Manizales) and down to tropical humid heat (Magdalena and Cauca river valleys). You can go hiking, mountain-biking, road cycling, quad-biking, horse-riding, paragliding, canoeing, canyoning and more. For a start I recommend seeing the pine forests of Parque Arví just on the edge of the city.
[QUOTE=Arcangel;2136632]I agree. And if you are into outdoors activities (non-sexual I mean) then Medellin wins over Buenos Aires, too. [/QUOTE]I agree if considering the area as a whole but disagree if considering the cities themselves. BsAs is much more walkable and bikeable and has more public tennis courts. I would also give BsAs the edge for city parks, although MDE has some nice ones too.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2136634]I agree if considering the area as a whole but disagree if considering the cities themselves. BsAs is much more walkable and bikeable and has more public tennis courts. I would also give BsAs the edge for city parks, although MDE has some nice ones too.[/QUOTE]How about the fine dining places, and the various umpromptu tango shows in downtown. IMO, Medellin cannot compete with BA on the fun scene.
Mongering, however is a different story, except if you enjoy girls from Colombia, DR, and Paraguay, when you are in BA and wish to monger.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2136657]How about the fine dining places, and the various umpromptu tango shows in downtown. IMO, Medellin cannot compete with BA on the fun scene.
Mongering, however is a different story, except if you enjoy girls from Colombia, DR, and Paraguay, when you are in BA and wish to monger.[/QUOTE]While I think the food in BA is overrated, it is certainly better than colombian food, which is well below average on a world-wide basis, in my opinion. It's true that the tango shows are a plus, and BA also has stand-up comics and other types of buskers. Medellín might have some of that, somewhere, sometimes, but I never saw any when I was living there. That's been quite a while ago, and I spent an austral winter in BA just a couple of years ago.
BA is major, world-class city with a European flavor. Medellín is a fairly large Latin American city with pleasant weather and a ton of hookers. Mid-summer in Buenos Aires is pretty unbearable to be out and about in, and air conditioning is an absolute must, (again IMO; obviously almost everything I write is my opinion). One of Medellín's primary advantages for North Americans is that it is much closer. Flights to BA from North America are a major drag.
When I lived in BA, there were zero colombianas. I never met a single one. There were some from the DR, increasingly as time went on, a development that I personally did not view favorably. And paraguayan pussy is the very best in the world, hands down. It isn't even close. And since Paraguay itself really sucks, that makes BA the better place for pussy, especially if you don't like silicone. Now if the latitudes and elevation of the two cities could be reversed, that would be ideal. I don't see that happening any time soon.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2136673]While I think the food in BA is overrated, it is certainly better than colombian food, which is well below average on a world-wide basis, in my opinion.
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Now if the latitudes and elevation of the two cities could be reversed, that would be ideal. I don't see that happening any time soon.[/QUOTE]Haha, I agree with everything. I never had local food that I found exciting anywhere south of Mexico. But I have got used to Colombian food and can live well on it. I also enjoy the Lebanese shawarma restaurants that you can find in most Colombian cities.
The problem with putting BsAs at the latitude of Medellin is that it would then be too far from Paraguay, hehe.
After two solid years of mongering too frequently in Colombia I've come to the following conclusion:
(1) [B]Prepagos lie[/B] all the time. I feel like talking to them is mostly worthless. I've had a few open up to me and tell me how they first got started. One story in particular really sticks in my mind. Then I remember they lie lie lie, and then lie some more. It's like downloading useless "alternative facts. ". One time this chica tells me for weeks that's she is preparing to go to Peru with her "cousins" and of course when she gets there its all photos of her and some cuckold boyfriend. Why lie? There's no conceivable reason to lie like this other than to just lie.
(2) [B]They are not single[/B] ever. There's always an ex-husband, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, fuck-friend, handler, or some other dude who pops up into their life around Christmas and Semana Santa. I literally had a prepago message me ask me when I'll next be in town with her boyfriend and her in her WhatsApp profile pic. I've only met two of these dudes in the past, casually, and they are always such big time losers who mooch off the prepago. It's almost like role reversal where she wears the trousers and takes care of him. I don't know why but this always makes me feel a little sick in my stomach to watch.
(3) [B]They are self centered[/B] to an extreme. This explains why everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. They don't give a fuck. It's all about them. Their needs. Gifts they want. Surgery they want. It's all about them.
And it doesn't matter if they're "semi-pro" or "new" or "fresh" or whatever the fuck.
OK story time. One night as we're watching TV in bed this one prepago opens up about her first time hooking. She tells me she was in college and her instructor (a female instructor) mentions that a man is looking for a companion just like her and would pay well to spend time with her. I think she was nineteen or twenty when this happened. She's in her early thirties now. She tells me that's the first time she slept with someone for money. After that she says, her eyes unfocused and lost in some memory, it's all became so easy.
I just said: "Dale, chuparme" and got her to blow me.
I'm in Colombia next week. This same prepago asked me to bring a iphone because hers isn't working properly. I laughed in her face.
Basically, 'chúpame' could be the correct response to anything a hooker says. 'I want a new I-phone.' 'Chúpame.' 'Let's go out to dinner.' 'Chúpame.' 'I need taxi money.' 'Chúpame.' 'I think it might rain.' 'Chúpame.'
I really don't see how you can go wrong with this approach.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2141511]After two solid years of mongering too frequently in Colombia I've come to the following conclusion:
(1) [B]Prepagos lie[/B] all the time. I feel like talking to them is mostly worthless. I've had a few open up to me and tell me how they first got started. One story in particular really sticks in my mind. Then I remember they lie lie lie, and then lie some more. It's like downloading useless "alternative facts. ". One time this chica tells me for weeks that's she is preparing to go to Peru with her "cousins" and of course when she gets there its all photos of her and some cuckold boyfriend. Why lie? There's no conceivable reason to lie like this other than to just lie.
(2) [B]They are not single[/B] ever. There's always an ex-husband, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, fuck-friend, handler, or some other dude who pops up into their life around Christmas and Semana Santa. I literally had a prepago message me ask me when I'll next be in town with her boyfriend and her in her WhatsApp profile pic. I've only met two of these dudes in the past, casually, and they are always such big time losers who mooch off the prepago. It's almost like role reversal where she wears the trousers and takes care of him. I don't know why but this always makes me feel a little sick in my stomach to watch.
(3) [B]They are self centered[/B] to an extreme. This explains why everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. They don't give a fuck. It's all about them. Their needs. Gifts they want. Surgery they want. It's all about them.
And it doesn't matter if they're "semi-pro" or "new" or "fresh" or whatever the fuck.
OK story time. One night as we're watching TV in bed this one prepago opens up about her first time hooking. She tells me she was in college and her instructor (a female instructor) mentions that a man is looking for a companion just like her and would pay well to spend time with her. I think she was nineteen or twenty when this happened. She's in her early thirties now. She tells me that's the first time she slept with someone for money. After that she says, her eyes unfocused and lost in some memory, it's all became so easy.
I just said: "Dale, chuparme" and got her to blow me.
I'm in Colombia next week. This same prepago asked me to bring a iphone because hers isn't working properly. I laughed in her face.[/QUOTE]I could not spell it out any better myself, me too me 8 years visiting medellin have heard every story and manipulation by both prepagos and the more normal paisa chicas, if you could use the term normal. Oh and I will be back in paisa pussy land next month. I get stories almost daily on whatsapp from many of my contacts.
I need to better understand the word chuparme.
TTM.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2141539]Basically, 'chpame' could be the correct response to anything a hooker says. 'I want a new I-phone.' 'Chpame.' 'Let's go out to dinner.' 'Chpame.' 'I need taxi money.' 'Chpame.' 'I think it might rain.' 'Chpame.'
I really don't see how you can go wrong with this approach.[/QUOTE]So when a paisa chica sends me a message that she needs something I simply reply "chuparame"?
I am already practicing the phrase chuparame la polla, jejejeje.
TTM.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2141649]So when a paisa chica sends me a message that she needs something I simply reply "chuparame"?
I am already practicing the phrase chuparame la polla, jejejeje.
TTM.[/QUOTE]It is 'chúpame,' not 'chuparme. ' The former is the imperative or command form. 'Chuparme' would be the infinitive. You could say, 'Tienes que chuparme' but I think using the imperative is the way to go. Shows who's the boss and takes less time to say.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2141657]It is 'chpame,' not 'chuparme. ' The former is the imperative or command form. 'Chuparme' would be the infinitive. You could say, 'Tienes que chuparme' but I think using the imperative is the way to go. Shows who's the boss and takes less time to say.[/QUOTE]Or you can try "callate y chupame. ".
I'm just curious why everyone is getting into these discussions with their prepagos. Why pay $30 - $50 to listen to someone else's problems? If her mom needs 500 k tell her as soon as she's finished with you she can go find 2 more guys. Why care if she has a boyfriend or husband? Unless she's lying about having a vagina, who cares?
Hell, lots of the mongers I meet tell lies. I don't call them out. I just enjoy the story and carry on.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2141723]Or you can try "callate y chupame. ".
Why care if she has a boyfriend or husband? Unless she's lying about having a vagina, who cares?
[/QUOTE]That happened once. I noticed when I took off the condom she quickly grabbed it and ran off and tossed it in a bin. She explained she's very orderly. I was like no. There was blood on that condom. She was fucking while on the rag.
Or you can try "cállate y chúpame."
I like that even better! Or how about 'cállate, arrodíllate y chúpame'? If you get bored with that, or want a slightly different angle, or if the floor is really dirty, substitute 'agáchate' for 'arrodíllate.'
If none of that works, say 'La puerta está allá. Lárgate!'
That chica who openly has a photo of her boyfriend in her whatsapp profile messages me out of the blue. She needs to tell me something she says. Then I get one of those biiiiiiig long messages describing her pitful economic state and how she needs help. I've been through this before and have my standard non-committal answer ready. Then she drops a bomb shell. She's 21 weeks pregnant. I immediately go to my calendar and start counting the weeks back to the time I barebacked her like a sweaty pig all night (creampie after creampie). Oh shit. It falls in or around that time. I ask her point blank if its mine. She says 'no lo creo' or she doesn't believe it is. Turns out other than her boyfriend I'm the only guy with that privilege (yeah right). She's pretty sure its the boyfriend because she took the morning after pill with me.
The conversation then goes on and on about other stuff. She told me she doesn't look pregnant but at 21 weeks I doubt that. I told her we could meet up when I'm in town and maybe we can work something out. I see even the start of a baby bump and I'm exiting stage left. Otherwise, we're doing a full dress rehearsal of the last night I was with her.
These chicas are fucking bizarre. I think it's like a mini matriarchal society with these hookers. They have their boyfriend and then other men they recruit into their circle. Sadly, she's such a sweet hottie. If she wasn't a hooker I'd easily make her a girlfriend. But putas be putas.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2142450]That chica who openly has a photo of her boyfriend in her whatsapp profile messages me out of the blue. She needs to tell me something she says. Then I get one of those biiiiiiig long messages describing her pitful economic state and how she needs help. I've been through this before and have my standard non-committal answer ready. Then she drops a bomb shell. She's 21 weeks pregnant. I immediately go to my calendar and start counting the weeks back to the time I barebacked her like a sweaty pig all night (creampie after creampie). Oh shit. It falls in or around that time. I ask her point blank if its mine. She says 'no lo creo' or she doesn't believe it is. Turns out other than her boyfriend I'm the only guy with that privilege (yeah right). She's pretty sure its the boyfriend because she took the morning after pill with me.
The conversation then goes on and on about other stuff. She told me she doesn't look pregnant but at 21 weeks I doubt that. I told her we could meet up when I'm in town and maybe we can work something out. I see even the start of a baby bump and I'm exiting stage left. Otherwise, we're doing a full dress rehearsal of the last night I was with her.
These chicas are fucking bizarre. I think it's like a mini matriarchal society with these hookers. They have their boyfriend and then other men they recruit into their circle. Sadly, she's such a sweet hottie. If she wasn't a hooker I'd easily make her a girlfriend. But putas be putas.[/QUOTE]Been there and done that. Good luck to you, tread carefully. I know if they were not so much damn fun and cute I would be long long.
TTM.
1st weekend of the month is the craft fare at Parque Bolivar. Lots of cool handmade stuff for sale.
It's a nice event, absolutely worth a visit and a refreshing change from the normal collection of addicts, transvestites, and assorted ne'er do wells. You can combine it with a meal at Hacienda, or a visit to chicas puntocom LOL!
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2147030]1st weekend of the month is the craft fare at Parque Bolivar. Lots of cool handmade stuff for sale.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2141511]
everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. [/QUOTE]I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2153612]I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Ditto that as I am one guilty of it, not often but when I do I show nothing of us together anywhere yet she shows great solo photos of her on the beach or in a boast, funny but guess who is taking those photos of her, jajajaja.
TTM.
Regarding the discussion about learning languages that is taking place in the Med forum, Knowledge posted:
'Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.
The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate. '.
I agree that speaking is the most important. I agree that TV and film are useful tools. I would add that watching soap operas, while painful at times, is good because the plots are so obvious, even if you miss the meaning of a few sentences, you don't get lost overall and later you figure out what they must have said. Listening to Spanish language radio in your car helps too. Those fuckers talk really fast so just let it wash over you for the most part, but it will sink in at some level and be helpful.
Dccpa writes:
'in your opinion is the hardest Romance language? I have limited exposure to most of them, but for me, Romanian is by far the most complex. Also, any suggestions for the best course for learning Spanish?
I only have exposure to Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese. I feel those are in order of ease. Spanish is easier than Italian by just a bit because Italian does not have the accent mark rules to indicate the syllable that should be stressed. It also has both grave and aigu accents, while Spanish does not. Then in French you have more silent letters, plus both types of accent marks, plus cedillas and circonflexes. Portuguese has all the pronunciation symbols that French has, plus the tilde, and silent letters.
I learned Spanish the hard way, but learned Italian using Pimsleur tapes, which I recommend.
Okay Dickhead, I will bite on this discussion. Here are two links I posted in the Valencia, Spain section.
[URL]https://hbr.org/2013/11/countries-with-better-english-have-better-economies[/URL]
[URL]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jul/6/20060706-085927-3579r/[/URL]
I was very hopeful that the desosvalencia operation, which posted a notification on ISG of its grand opening, would make an effort to service non-Spanish speakers like their sister operation desosbarcelona does. All a person has to do to make an appointment with desosbarcelona is to compose a message in English on one side of Google Translate, translate it to Spanish (or Catalan if you think you might be dealing with a rebel), copy and paste it into whatsapp, and send it. Sometimes the message comes back in Spanish, and you reverse the process, sometimes it comes back as a whatsapp voice message in English from a sexy sounding lady. But at the Valencia location, so far, they don't have whatsapp, they ignore translated SMS messages, and they politely say they don't speak English when someone calls.
Most all Madrid brothels and independents either speak English or use the above-described translation system either via Whatsapp or email. But there is one specialty place I wanted to go in Madrid where they just have a landline and they speak no English. They post their exact address and door code on the Spalumi message board and invite walk-ins, and when I called I could tell the madam really wanted me to come over, but her spoken English was as bad as my spoken Spanish. So I just went someplace easier.
So I am less likely to go to Valencia in comparison to Barcelona, and I am less likely to go to that particular "non-English friendly" Madrid place in comparison to other Madrid places.
I have been to two countries in South America and I had a much more difficult time getting around in comparison to Europe, including when it comes to mongering. If it hadn't been for Laura's wonderful translation service for john's in Buenos Aires, I would have been completely lost. So I am relatively more likely to go to Europe than to South America. I was supposed to stay at the Mansion once, but I had to cancel the trip due to a flight schedule change. But if I go to Medellin, I would definitely stay at the Mansion due to my lack of Spanish.
So here is my question as it relates to the links I posted. Given the relative proprtion of overall worldwide income and wealth amongst English speaking men, wouldn't it make more sense for South American providers to greatly step-up their game with technology to translate to and from English, and step-up their game with respect to speaking English in general?
It is automatic in the hospitality industry that English will be spoken, because the hospitality industry knows that their ideal customer base speaks English. If you were a hot, young female sex worker, wouldn't it make the most sense to work on English skills, and technological abilities to attract the customers with the most wealth. The English speakers?
I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2153612]I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I don't get it. Do you guys WANT to be plastered all over a work girl's timeline? Not me. I'd rather stay under the radar. Why bring attention to yourself like that?
And if I see pics of any of the girls on my Medellin FB outside of Colombia, it's almost certain they're with a client.
The girls I find weird are the ones who post pics of their Colombian BF all over their timeline with lovey dovey messages to each other. I like to avoid drama and prefer the more discreet ones who keep their private and working lives separate.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2154217]Regarding the discussion about learning languages that is taking place in the Med forum, Knowledge posted:
'Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.
The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate. '.
I agree that speaking is the most important. I agree that TV and film are useful tools. I would add that watching soap operas, while painful at times, is good because the plots are so obvious, even if you miss the meaning of a few sentences, you don't get lost overall and later you figure out what they must have said. Listening to Spanish language radio in your car helps too. Those fuckers talk really fast so just let it wash over you for the most part, but it will sin.[/QUOTE]There are 4 parts to learning a new language, in order of difficulty: reading, speaking, writing and hearing.
Hearing is most difficult because most people speak rapidly and informally. Spoken language is full of colloquialisms and cliches. Especially in English, it's often full of grammatical errors. Reading is easiest because any unknown word is right where you can look it up and the meaning of many words can be inferred contextually.
Speaking correctly, not only with correct pronunciation, but also with the correct rhythm takes a lot of time and practice. However, unlike hearing, you control the tempo and vocabulary. Making yourself understood is easier than understanding others.
The difficulty with writing is that written language needs to follow all the rules. Mastering the written language is easier than mastering the spoken language, but for a beginner the ñ (tilde in English) and ' (tilde in Spanish) can be confusing.
Neglecting reading and writing will slow down the learning process. Reading helps to build your vocabulary in a controlled environment. It also helps stress correct structure and grammar. Writing helps to organize your thoughts and helps you to avoid mistakes like confusing ano and año, cono and coño.
Work on all 4. Since hearing is the hardest and most important, more effort should be put there, with less effort towards writing.
More on this CIA Factbook. The CIA has had a despicable record when it comes to Central and South America and the Caribbean. From overthrowing countries, to suppressing progressive / liberal / socialist movements and politicians. But that being said, there's no reason for them to jimmy the racial / ethnic people mix of a country. Even though when it comes out with 84% of the population of Colombia is Mestizo and white. That's a wide berth and they don't have very accurate statistics for those 2 groups; could have wide variance with the numbers.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2154253]Okay Dickhead, I will bite on this discussion. Here are two links I posted in the Valencia, Spain section.
[URL]https://hbr.org/2013/11/countries-with-better-english-have-better-economies[/URL]
[URL]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jul/6/20060706-085927-3579r/[/URL]
I was very hopeful that the desosvalencia operation, which posted a notification on ISG of its grand opening, would make an effort to service non-Spanish speakers like their sister operation desosbarcelona does. All a person has to do to make an appointment with desosbarcelona is to compose a message in English on one side of Google Translate, translate it to Spanish (or Catalan if you think you might be dealing with a rebel), copy and paste it into whatsapp, and send it. Sometimes the message comes back in Spanish, and you reverse the process, sometimes it comes back as a whatsapp voice message in English from a sexy sounding lady. But at the Valencia location, so far, they don't have whatsapp, they ignore translated SMS messages, and they politely say they don't speak English when someone calls.
Most all Madrid brothels and independents either speak English or use the above-described translation system either via Whatsapp or email. But there is one specialty place I wanted to go in Madrid where they just have a landline and they speak no English. They post their exact address and door code on the Spalumi message board and invite walk-ins, and when I called I could tell the madam really wanted me to come over, but her spoken English was as bad as my spoken Spanish. So I just went someplace easier.
So I am less likely to go to Valencia in comparison to Barcelona, and I am less likely to go to that particular "non-English friendly" Madrid place in comparison to other Madrid places.
I have been to two countries in South America and I had a much more difficult time getting around in comparison to Europe, including when it comes to mongering. If it hadn't been for Laura's wonderful translation service for john's in Buenos Aires, I would have been completely lost. So I am relatively more likely to go to Europe than to South America. I was supposed to stay at the Mansion once, but I had to cancel the trip due to a flight schedule change. But if I go to Medellin, I would definitely stay at the Mansion due to my lack of Spanish.
So here is my question as it relates to the links I posted. Given the relative proprtion of overall worldwide income and wealth amongst English speaking men, wouldn't it make more sense for South American providers to greatly step-up their game with technology to translate to and from English, and step-up their game with respect to speaking English in general?
It is automatic in the hospitality industry that English will be spoken, because the hospitality industry knows that their ideal customer base speaks English. If you were a hot, young female sex worker, wouldn't it make the most sense to work on English skills, and technological abilities to attract the customers with the most wealth. The English speakers?
I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?[/QUOTE]Because of the vestiges of colonialism. South Americans have poorer educational opportunities and live in more economically disadvantaged conditions. The per capita incomes in LatAm are 1/5 that of Spain. Your ignorance is unbelievable, and is part of the problem. Europeans get free public education. Latin America remains 20-30% illiterate because if your parents can't pay for your education you don't get any. Understand?
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2154253]
I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?[/QUOTE]They don't need English. All their business is conducted in Spanish. In fact my colleagues in Spanish speaking LATAM learn Portuguese as a higher priority than English because they do more business in Brazil. My Brazilian colleagues tend to study Italian and Spanish as well. I've only met one Colombian who spoke French and that's because he comes from a wealthy family and was sent abroad to study. He speaks Spanish and French (not English).
Also how does speaking English raise incomes? I mean other than working in the tourist industries I don't see it being very important. Multinationals who hire locals in LATAM don't necessarily pay them higher wages. They look at what the market pays and maybe pay a little more to attract better talent but that's about it. Unlike what some mongers do (paying $200 USD for short time with a chica), foreign investment in LATAM isn't looking to pay European or North American wages in LATAM countries.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2155581]Your ignorance is unbelievable, and is part of the problem...[/QUOTE]Thank you. Very kind of you.
To the best of my knowledge, educational materials for an second language are relatively inexpensive, and most ladies in South America seem to have cell phones, and apps are certainly available to help with languages, both in learning them and in translating.
You seem to advocate for American men, most of whom have good paying jobs and relatively little free time, to learn Spanish. While I agree that learning Spanish will allow an American John to have a better time in Central and South America, I make the presumption that ladies in South America are as intelligent as I am, and frankly they may have more free time than I do. So I don't think it is unrealistic to expect that they might learn a bit of English, especially if they are proposing a transaction where they want to sell something to English speakers in exchange for cash.
Now over time, as the levels of income and wealth equalize, non-Spanish speakers would have more incentive to learn more Spanish.
I notice that ladies in South America who do speak fluent English tend to get much higher rates per hour. While one is at the extreme in rates, there is an independent in Buenos Aires who seems to be getting a lot of business for herself and her friends by being able to communicate efficiently in English.
This principle is not limited to South America. In Lisbon, my favorite escort group is about 50 euros per hour more expensive than most of the local independent escorts. Some of this is the outcall transportation charge, but some of it is the convenience charge for communicating in English, and for having a group of ladies who speak English and can make the hour more enjoyable to customers. The local Lisbon escorts who speak fluent English do often charge more per hour than the local independent escorts who do not, and are more likely to advertise on sites catering to English speakers.
All I was saying was that escorts who learn English can likely earn more than those who don't. So they should be economically incentivized to learn English.
And I see economic incentives for American guys to learn Spanish. Many of the johns on ISG who get the best rate per hour in places like Medellin do in fact speak fluent Spanish and are at an enormous competitive economic advantage over those who don't. All I was saying us that it seems to me that more ladies in Central and South America would recognize this economic principle and raise their overall income by making an effort to learn more English and seek out more English-speaking customers.
I would respect any provider who does that, and I don't think the lack of prior education should be that much of a detriment. But maybe I am wrong, having received a good education. That would tend to decrease the competitive economic advantage that Spanish speaking johns have over non-Spanish speaking johns, which might tend to irritate the former. Perhaps that explains the hostility some of the guys on ISG have for The Mansion, since it caters to non-Soanish speaking johns?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2155586]They don't need English. All their business is conducted in Spanish. In fact my colleagues in Spanish speaking LATAM learn Portuguese as a higher priority than English because they do more business in Brazil. My Brazilian colleagues tend to study Italian and Spanish as well. I've only met one Colombian who spoke French and that's because he comes from a wealthy family and was sent abroad to study. He speaks Spanish and French (not English).
Also how does speaking English raise incomes? I mean other than working in the tourist industries I don't see it being very important. Multinationals who hire locals in LATAM don't necessarily pay them higher wages. They look at what the market pays and maybe pay a little more to attract better talent but that's about it. Unlike what some mongers do (paying $200 USD for short time with a chica), foreign investment in LATAM isn't looking to pay European or North American wages in LATAM countries.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that if a person has a product or service to sell, and he or she can produce that product at a low cost, he would seek out the customers with the most cash to sell the product or service to them at the highest price. If the majority of those potential customers who are flush with cash primarily speak English, I would think the seller of the product or service would want to speak English to communicate with them to let them know the product or service exists, and to be able to close the deal.
Maybe I am wrong, but I am guessing the actual Pablo Escobar and the actual version of the mythical Juan Valdez spoke English.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2155591]I was under the impression that if a person has a product or service to sell, and he or she can produce that product at a low cost, he would seek out the customers with the most cash to sell the product or service to them at the highest price. If the majority of those potential customers who are flush with cash primarily speak English, I would think the seller of the product or service would want to speak English to communicate with them to let them know the product or service exists, and to be able to close the deal.
[/QUOTE]Yes, if you're in sales and are selling to North America you probably want to lean English but not everyone living in Colombia (or LATAM) is working in the sales department taking POs from North American customers.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2155591]I was under the impression that if a person has a product or service to sell, and he or she can produce that product at a low cost, he would seek out the customers with the most cash to sell the product or service to them at the highest price. If the majority of those potential customers who are flush with cash primarily speak English, I would think the seller of the product or service would want to speak English to communicate with them to let them know the product or service exists, and to be able to close the deal.
Maybe I am wrong, but I am guessing the actual Pablo Escobar and the actual version of the mythical Juan Valdez spoke English.[/QUOTE]A lot of the women that are in the profession for a long time do end up learning English. I generally try to avoid this sub-segment as they tend to be hardened pros.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2155591]I was under the impression that if a person has a product or service to sell, and he or she can produce that product at a low cost, he would seek out the customers with the most cash to sell the product or service to them at the highest price. If the majority of those potential customers who are flush with cash primarily speak English, I would think the seller of the product or service would want to speak English to communicate with them to let them know the product or service exists, and to be able to close the deal.
Maybe I am wrong, but I am guessing the actual Pablo Escobar and the actual version of the mythical Juan Valdez spoke English.[/QUOTE]If you have 5 customers per day who want to buy a sandwich on rye bread and 100 customers per day who want their sandwich on wheat bread, how much effort do you put into making sure you have rye bread? Consider that 3 of the 5 rye customers will take wheat if rye isn't available, but none of the wheat customers will try rye.
Most of the Colombian working girls are selling pussy 3 or 4 years before it's legal to do so. They are making money before they've ever seen a gringo. These are not business majors. They work, make money, spend money and work when they need more. If they have money they are doing something they enjoy. If they don't have money they go do something to get money. Spending money to learn English isn't on their list of priorities.
Expecting the population of a foreign country to learn your language because you believe it will benefit them is the gringo mentality many of us try to avoid. You're willing to wait in line for a (usually) older prepago just so you can talk to her. Then you're willing to pay her extra regardless of how good or bad she performs.
What makes you think these women have more free time than you do? Most have kids, have a house to clean and family to feed. Quite often they have no data on their phone, so any online app or program won't always work. Very few have extra money to take formal lessons.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2155590]You seem to advocate for American men, most of whom have good paying jobs and relatively little free time, to learn Spanish. [/QUOTE]No, I am advocating that the public schools in the US (Colombia is part of America, BTW) start teaching foreign languages in the primary grades as is routinely done in most European countries, with the UK being one notable exception. The idea of university graduates being monoglots seems anathema to me. Either Spanish or Mandarin would seem to me to make the most sense for someone from the US to study, since they have the most speakers and since Mxico is a neighbor.
And most guys in the US have crap jobs. The median wage is less than $50 k, rents are outrageous, and going to college costs a small fortune. The current Secretary of Education, a billionaire kunt, wants to make that all worse, of course.
'I don't think the lack of prior education should be that much of a detriment. But maybe I am wrong, having received a good education.'
Yes, you are definitely wrong.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2155674]If you have 5 customers per day who want to buy a sandwich on rye bread and 100 customers per day who want their sandwich on wheat bread, how much effort do you put into making sure you have rye bread? Consider that 3 of the 5 rye customers will take wheat if rye isn't available, but none of the wheat customers will try rye.
Most of the Colombian working girls are selling pussy 3 or 4 years before it's legal to do so. They are making money before they've ever seen a gringo. These are not business majors. They work, make money, spend money and work when they need more. If they have money they are doing something they enjoy. If they don't have money they go do something to get money. Spending money to learn English isn't on their list of priorities.
Expecting the population of a foreign country to learn your language because you believe it will benefit them is the gringo mentality many of us try to avoid. You're willing to wait in line for a (usually) older prepago just so you can talk to her. Then you're willing to pay her extra regardless of how good or bad she performs.
What makes you think these women have more free time than you do? Most have kids, have a house to clean and family to feed. Quite often they have no data on their phone, so any online app or program won't always work. Very few have extra money to take formal lessons.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I'm tired of the mentality that says that Colombians / Latinos / people from third world countries can't, shouldn't or have no need to learn English. I think that it's called "the racism of low expectations".
English isn't even my second language and I do much prefer to speak in Spanish than English, so to me they can remain ignorant. But where I'm from small children are taught English in school from an early age, why? Could it be that we as a people and country recognise the need to be able to speak English in a global world?
Colombians should learn English and it has nothing to do with what you native English speakers think.
Here is what a recent poster said about this subject: 'I speak Spanish almost fluently, not quite--but close! And it does help A LOT in Medellin!
Languages are a skill, an asset, a resource. The more languages you know, the better your life will be. Just as the more math you know, the more whatever you know, the better off you are. Ignorance is not bliss. I found that I could obtain some language skills without investing any additional time, by listening to radio or tapes while doing other things. Back when there used to be actual newspapers, instead of spending fifteen or twenty minutes reading an English newspaper, I spent fifteen or twenty minutes reading a Spanish one. Didn't get as far through it, especially at first, but I wasn't spending extra time. That was back when I was pretty busy. I will admit, learning Italian after I was retired was easier than learning Spanish while I was still working. I also had the advantage of starting the language learning process fairly early, when I was eleven years old.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2156025]I'm sorry but I'm tired of the mentality that says that Colombians / Latinos / people from third world countries can't, shouldn't or have no need to learn English. I think that it's called "the racism of low expectations".
English isn't even my second language and I do much prefer to speak in Spanish than English, so to me they can remain ignorant. But where I'm from small children are taught English in school from an early age, why? Could it be that we as a people and country recognise the need to be able to speak English in a global world?
Colombians should learn English and it has nothing to do with what you native English speakers think.[/QUOTE]And I'm tired of people who expect something from nothing.
Can't learn English? I know they can. Shouldn't learn English? Should and shouldn't are subjective. You get to decide what you should do. You can suggest what you think others should do. You don't get to determine what others must do. Have no need to learn English? For the majority that is true. Just as the majority of the people I grew up with in the Midwestern US had no need to learn Spanish. A second language is not a necessity, it's a luxury, especially in a country surrounded by Spanish speaking (except Brazil) countries.
Perhaps Colombians should learn English, just like kids in the US should learn Spanish or Mandarin. However, you blame the lack on the individual Colombian, while admitting bilingual education in your country is clearly a government initiative.
Making Colombian schools bilingual, requires money. The prepagos this discussion is about don't have the money and they certainly didn't have the money when they were starting their education. The government probably could find the money, could require all teachers to become fluent in English and in 15 to 20 years perhaps 30% of Colombians would be able to handle basic communication in English.
The majority won't become fluent for many years because the vast majority of Colombians rarely have any need to talk to someone in English.
Go walk around Manrique, Paris or Llanaditas and tell the residents they need to find the money to teach their children English. Tell the prepagos you're with that instead of buying clothes or food for their kids they need to spend the money on English classes. Better yet, go to Bogota, spend about $2 million USD convincing politicians to push a bilingual education initiative and offer to provide $50 million more to get the program started. Politicians tend to get really excited about these type of things when their pockets are filled.
It's call "racism of privilege. " The US is full of it. I don't believe Colombians are incapable of learning a second language. I've spent part of the last year teaching English to a few who wanted to learn, without charging for my time. I believe, given the opportunity they can accomplish anything.
Racism of privilege is "why can't they be like me?" Did you grow up with a television, telephone, air conditioning and / or heating? How about with electricity and running water? A real roof instead of a sheet of tin held down by rocks? Did you sleep in a real bed, or was it on a piece of foam rubber thrown on the floor? How many kilometers did you have to walk uphill after school each day? How far did you have to carry bags of rice and beans, also uphill, so your family could eat?
Chances are you can't imagine what it's like to grow up in the poorest neighborhoods of a third world country. We take everything for granted, because what we needed has always been available. Most of us rarely interact with the poorest people, with the exception of the girls who come down to sell us pussy. They look at an average hotel room as if it's a 5 star suite because it has hot water. Imagine considering warm water a luxury. They post so many balcony, pool and jacuzzi selfies because where they come from this is unimaginable opulence.
Many of the prepagos could spend their money better and use some of it to learn English. Instead, they waste it on tattoos or taking their friends and family to a finca.
Then again, why? They don't want to be with an old gringo who only knows 20 words of Spanish. They aren't fucking us for our charm, wit and good looks. And no matter how many times they say it none of them love your penis. Everyone they want to be around speaks Spanish.
Which means, if you want them to want to be around you, it's in your best interest to learn their language.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2156025]I'm sorry but I'm tired of the mentality that says that Colombians / Latinos / people from third world countries can't, shouldn't or have no need to learn English. I think that it's called "the racism of low expectations".
English isn't even my second language and I do much prefer to speak in Spanish than English, so to me they can remain ignorant. But where I'm from small children are taught English in school from an early age, why? Could it be that we as a people and country recognise the need to be able to speak English in a global world?
Colombians should learn English and it has nothing to do with what you native English speakers think.[/QUOTE]And one other thing.
Most of the Colombian prepagos aren't thinking about long-term benefits of investments in education. They might spend some money going to a beauty school as their plan be once the prepago gig starts slowing down, but most won't keep a job.
Telling them that spending time and money to learn English will help them earn more is a waste of time. They are only interested in money now.
Most have Pretty Woman syndrome. They just know that some rich, good looking guy is going to come along and put them in a mansion and they'll live happily ever after.
While it would be great if they would all learn English, it isn't going to happen. It will always be the responsibility of the traveler to learn the native tongue if they want to improve communication with the natives.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2156025]I'm sorry but I'm tired of the mentality that says that Colombians / Latinos / people from third world countries can't, shouldn't or have no need to learn English. I think that it's called "the racism of low expectations".
English isn't even my second language and I do much prefer to speak in Spanish than English, so to me they can remain ignorant. But where I'm from small children are taught English in school from an early age, why? Could it be that we as a people and country recognise the need to be able to speak English in a global world?
Colombians should learn English and it has nothing to do with what you native English speakers think.[/QUOTE]WTF. You're obsessed. Why don't you lobby the Colombian Government to push English education? My guess is they have plenty of other priorities right now.
Whether it would behoove them (or not) to push English, that's their decision, not yours.
I've been coming to Colombia for the past 10 years. Made about 15 trips there. It seems to me that theres more English spoken now than 10 years ago. Maybe the people are adjusting to tourists from English speaking countries or more English is being taught in school. Don't know, but I've seen a difference.
[QUOTE=Combo;2156798]WTF. You're obsessed. Why don't you lobby the Colombian Government to push English education? My guess is they have plenty of other priorities right now.
Whether it would behoove them (or not) to push English, that's their decision, not yours.[/QUOTE]You are obsessed by me. It's not healthy. It's not your decision to decide what I'm supposed to write or think.
I notice the same thing in Spain, and attribute it to the internet, plus the diffusion of popular music via Spotify and Pandora and such.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2156192]Here is what a recent poster said about this subject: 'I speak Spanish almost fluently, not quite--but close! And it does help A LOT in Medellin!
Languages are a skill, an asset, a resource. The more languages you know, the better your life will be. Just as the more math you know, the more whatever you know, the better off you are. Ignorance is not bliss. I found that I could obtain some language skills without investing any additional time, by listening to radio or tapes while doing other things. Back when there used to be actual newspapers, instead of spending fifteen or twenty minutes reading an English newspaper, I spent fifteen or twenty minutes reading a Spanish one. Didn't get as far through it, especially at first, but I wasn't spending extra time. That was back when I was pretty busy. I will admit, learning Italian after I was retired was easier than learning Spanish while I was still working. I also had the advantage of starting the language learning process fairly early, when I was eleven years old.[/QUOTE]I agree with your comments. Language is important. I speak Spanish and Portuguese and believe that learning a foreign language is a form of mental gymnastics. There is growing evidence that speaking a foreign language can delay the onset of dementia.
There is also the issue of respect. When visiting another country it is good to show that your can speak their language and in general your language learning efforts will be appreciated and respected. Speaking their language opens up a whole new world.
[QUOTE=Rocinha;2157223]I agree with your comments. Language is important. I speak Spanish and Portuguese and believe that learning a foreign language is a form of mental gymnastics. There is growing evidence that speaking a foreign language can delay the onset of dementia. There is also the issue of respect. When visiting another country it is good to show that your can speak their language and in general your language learning efforts will be appreciated and respected. Speaking their language opens up a whole new world.[/QUOTE]
Case in point. Years ago, my sisters and I were visiting family in Europe. We made a 3 day side trip to Paris. I had taken French in high school and made attempts to speak the language. The Parisians were polite to me, but rude to my sisters.
Also agree that learning languages helps keep the brain. Recently I read the results of a long term study about the health effects of eating leafy green vegetables. Participants who ate an average of 1.3 servings of leafy green vegetables daily had brains that were eleven years younger than those that didn't eat leafy green vegetables. Hello Spinach!
It looks like several countries have added English to their curriculum. Vietnam calls it project 2020. Cuba was per a Cuban who stated in a Youtube video that they used to teach Russian in schools and now they teach English. Colombian was from a Youtube video interview of someone who was teaching English in Colombia. It really would make sense if there was an international language and English is the language of international business. Maybe take the better parts of English and come up with a new international language.
Downtown.
When you're alone, and life is making you lonely.
You can always go.
Downtown.
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry.
Seems to help, I know.
Downtown.
Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city.
Linger on the sidewalk where the street girls are pretty.
How can you lose? -It's only $10!
The lights are much brighter there.
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares.
So go downtown, things'll be great when you're.
Downtown, no finer place for sure.
Downtown everything's waiting for you.
Downtown.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2157431]Downtown.
When you're alone, and life is making you lonely.
You can always go.
Downtown.
Downtown.[/QUOTE]Your post was a breath of fresh air after the stale posts of the last few days! Kudos!
[QUOTE=Dccpa;2157395]come up with a new international language.[/QUOTE]They tried that. It was called Esperanto. Didn't work.
Why is the fucking peso getting stronger vs. US dollar? Oil prices have not increased that much. And I want the old 1 usd = 3.000 peso so I can get better value.
It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167564]It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Medellin, Nov 2015, dollar bought 3300 pesos. No problema. After the trade war with China and the the nuclear war with Russia it won't matter.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167564]It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.[/QUOTE]I suppose if you don't get laid when you want to, or at the price you want, that's also Trump's fault. In the past 90 days, when the dollar has fallen the most in the last year and a half, the Euro has fallen almost the same - 7. 8% and 7. 2%. A weaker dollar is good for most people who live in the United States. It means goods produced in the US will be cheaper on the world market. Since the US is now an oil exporting country, higher oil prices allow for more exploration. That creates more US jobs.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2167685]A weaker dollar is good for most people who live in the United States. It means goods produced in the US will be cheaper on the world market.[/QUOTE]Yes, but most shit sold in the US is made in other countries. So that same shit is going to cost Americans more.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2167397]Why is the fucking peso getting stronger vs. US dollar? Oil prices have not increased that much. And I want the old 1 usd = 3.000 peso so I can get better value.[/QUOTE]Do you realize that the rate was 1800 just four years ago? The USD is still quite strong against the Col Peso, even if it has pulled pack recently. Honestly if it stayed right here for the foreseeable future, I'd be happy as hell.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2167397]Why is the fucking peso getting stronger vs. US dollar? Oil prices have not increased that much. And I want the old 1 usd = 3.000 peso so I can get better value.[/QUOTE]Its weakness to the dollar to some extent. But, the COP is still pretty weak against the USD from a historical standpoint. As someone also pointed out, it was much stronger 4 years ago. And when somebody complains, "I only used to pay XXXX for short-time", just ask then what the exchange rate was at the time. When I was in Medellin two years ago from this month, the COP was only slightly weaker, whereas the Euro was a lot weaker when I was in Germany just over two years ago. Colombia is still a good value compared to most places that are easy striking distance from the US.
Note that the dollar's weakness is not universal around the globe. The Indonesian Rupiah is very weak against the USD right now. Weaker than it was a year ago, and since I just got back from Bali, that was a wonderful thing. Excellent short time service with a young, slender Javanese girl for under $22? Best mongering value I've had so far. The Philippine Piso is also at its lowest point against the dollar in a decade.
But, if you are currency conscious, as I am, then keep your eyes on the currency rates of monger locations you want to visit. That's what I do, because there are many places I want to visit and I choose my destinations partially on how strong the USD is very the destination currency. I figure I'll visit Germany again when the Euro is weak and maybe monger in Spain or Portugal for the first time when the Euro is weak. Dickhead seems to like those locations. I do hope to visit Indonesia and Colombia while their currencies are still weak. Maybe some day, Thailand's government will enact a more sensible monetary policy and let the overpriced Baht weaken a bit. Thai exports are complaining about the strength of the Baht, and tourism is also off this year. At barely 31 Baht to the USD, I'm not planning to visit the Land of Smiles for very long.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2167727]Yes, but most shit sold in the US is made in other countries. So that same shit is going to cost Americans more.[/QUOTE]I don't know the specific group of products you are referring to, but most consumer goods sold in the US are produced in the US. On an individual basis, food takes the third most out of most budgets, behind housing and automobile related expenses. Almost all food bought in the US is produced in the US. Automobile imports amount to very little of the total automobile market.
I haven't seen any data on clothes, but I venture to say that most clothes sold in the US are imported. How much of an average individual's budget is spent on clothes? I say very little.
Overall, I think a weaker dollar is better for the US populace as a whole, but not good for those of us who travel internationally on a regular basis.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167564]It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to reach El Toro Rojo. Been offered a post in Bogota.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2168048]I don't know the specific group of products you are referring to, but most consumer goods sold in the US are produced in the US. On an individual basis, food takes the third most out of most budgets, behind housing and automobile related expenses. Almost all food bought in the US is produced in the US. Automobile imports amount to very little of the total automobile market.
I haven't seen any data on clothes, but I venture to say that most clothes sold in the US are imported. How much of an average individual's budget is spent on clothes? I say very little.
Overall, I think a weaker dollar is better for the US populace as a whole, but not good for those of us who travel internationally on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]I have a few thoughts. On food, I guess it depends on what you are talking about. If you mean fresh vegetables, the majority comes from Mexico and Central / South America. If you mean meats, yes almost all from the US. Auto imports? Not so much but that is because a lot of Japanese Auto-Makers have built plants in the US so the numbers are a little (a lot) of gibberish. Clothes? Yes you are right, mostly imported (including tennis shoes which may have the Nike symbol but they have the made in China ID if you look at the identifiers).
Weaker vs Stronger dollar. I guess it depends on whether you are buying or travelling. Clearly this forum would favor a very strong dollar!
I really like reading some of the post and blogs on the happenings of Medellin. Are any of you guys hanging out there this week? I'the like to meet up and have a beer or 2. I have rent and Airbnb near Llera Park. Looking for to the fellowship!!
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167564]It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.[/QUOTE]Okay by that logic, George W. Bush is responsible for cheap FKK adventures, when the Euro fell to 85 cents in May of 2001. And don't forget, gas is still cheaper now than it was 5 years ago, when everyone was paying well over $3 a gallon. I saw gas for 1.49 right around the time Barack Obama was elected. Are you ready to blame Barack Obama for high gas prices?
And BTW, the Euro began the year at 3578, and fell to 3336 a few weeks ago. Is that what you call virtually nowhere?
While the COP has strengthened against most other currencies in recent months, we have seen the Indonesian Rupiah fall to a three year low against the dollar and approaching a 10 year low. So, shouldn't I thank Donald Trump for the cheap pussy I enjoyed in Bali last month?
My point is, you cannot selectively blame politicians for economic events. They have less influence over economic matters than people think they do, and less than they would like you to believe. The big player in the strength of the dollar over the long term, in my opinion, is going to be the new "Fed". A central bank that is "hawkish" is going to strengthen the currency, just as central bank that can't keep inflation in check is going to see its currency slump. What money manager is going to put their funds in a currency whose value is eroding due to inflation. A currency gets attractive when the spread between inflation and the yield on deposits or bonds is positive. Right now, not many money managers or investors want to stick their money in bonds if they don't have do. With three interest rate increases in the cards, the "smart money" would prefer to wait until bond and money market yields are higher. Its just the same as you would want to take out a mortgage and buy a home now, instead of a year or two. Because it will likely be more expensive to finance a home purchase then. Making investments in fixed income will be a better value in that same time period. Note that around 45% of all US Treasury debt was held by overseas entities of last fall. The Japanese government holds almost 8% of all US Debt. Almost 20% of all buyers at US Treasury auctions are foreign, down from almost 30% ten years ago. So, you can see the impact this will have on a currency. If other big central banks don't follow suit, soon (and they don't appear to be), you will likely see a trend towards a stronger dollar, regardless of who is in the oval office and what noise they tweet. Because that is all it is, noise. What the Fed does, actually matters immensely, and what they merely imply in the published Fed "Minutes" or what the Fed Chairman mumbles can move mountains in the world of finance.
A bit more insight into the strength of the USD, and the impact of interest rates on a currency:
[URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dollar-set-for-best-month-since-february-2017-ahead-of-fed-meeting-2018-04-30[/URL]
As the article notes, the Pound Sterling is taking a beating (again) because the Bank of England isn't likely to hike rates in the near future. However, in the past week the consensus is that the Fed will hike rates soon, and it looking at four, not three rate hikes in the near future. As the article quotes on analyst as saying "The Fed is on a course to raise rates again in June and we believe that they will use this month's meeting to telegraph their intent to pull the trigger again and this will send the dollar sharply higher.
The Euro: USD reached my long awaited multi year top of 125-126 (actual was 125.5) back in February. I am looking for a 25-30% drop in the Euro over the next 12-15 months. No idea what will cause the drop, but the monthly chart has been very reliable since the 2008 financial crisis.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2172592]Okay by that logic, George W. Bush is responsible for cheap FKK adventures, when the Euro fell to 85 cents in May of 2001. And don't forget, gas is still cheaper now than it was 5 years ago, when everyone was paying well over $3 a gallon. I saw gas for 1.49 right around the time Barack Obama was elected. Are you ready to blame Barack Obama for high gas prices?
And BTW, the Euro began the year at 3578, and fell to 3336 a few weeks ago. Is that what you call virtually nowhere?
While the COP has strengthened against most other currencies in recent months, we have seen the Indonesian Rupiah fall to a three year low against the dollar and approaching a 10 year low. So, shouldn't I thank Donald Trump for the cheap pussy I enjoyed in Bali last month?
My point is, you cannot selectively blame politicians for economic events. They have less influence over economic matters than people think they do, and less than they would like you to believe. The big player in the strength of the dollar over the long term, in my opinion, is going to be the new "Fed". A central bank that is "hawkish" is going to strengthen the currency, just as central bank that can't keep inflation in check is going to see its currency slump. What money manager is going to put their funds in a currency whose value is eroding due to inflation. A currency gets attractive when the spread between inflation and the yield on deposits or bonds is positive. Right now, not many money managers or investors want to stick their money in bonds if they don't have do. With three interest rate increases in the cards, the "smart money" would prefer to wait until bond and money market yields are higher. Its just the same as you would want to take out a mortgage and buy a home now, instead of a year or two. Because it will likely be more expensive to finance a home purchase then. Making investments in fixed income will be a better value in that same time period. Note that around 45% of all US Treasury debt was held by overseas entities of last fall. The Japanese government holds almost 8% of all US Debt. Almost 20% of all buyers at US Treasury auctions are foreign, down from almost 30% ten years ago. So, you can see the impact this will have on a currency. If other big central banks don't follow suit, soon (and they don't appear to be), you will likely see a trend towards a stronger dollar, regardless of who is in the oval office and what noise they tweet. Because that is all it is, noise. What the Fed does, actually matters immensely, and what they merely imply in the published Fed "Minutes" or what the Fed Chairman mumbles can move mountains in the world of finance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dccpa;2174160]The Euro: USD reached my long awaited multi year top of 125-126 (actual was 125.5) back in February. I am looking for a 25-30% drop in the Euro over the next 12-15 months. No idea what will cause the drop, but the monthly chart has been very reliable since the 2008 financial crisis.[/QUOTE]Multi-year top? Maybe in the past 3 years, when it was coming off a 10-year low. But it hit 1.60 USD 10 years this July. The dollar has definitely been much weaker against the Euro in the past decade.
Here is a professional source for exchange rates, past and current:
[URL]https://www.xe.com/[/URL]
They also have an app on Google Play. What monthly chart are you referring to? Is this a tech analysis tool?
The Euro was down to $1.05 USD back in the fall of 2015, just over two years ago. By dumb luck, I happened to visit a friend in Berlin at that time. My only regret was not mongering more. The USD has done well in the past weeks, but the Pound Sterling has done the opposite. So, news of a strong dollar does not mean happy news for everyone on these forums. If the USD reclaims 3000 COP by this fall, I will be thrilled.
And as a point of reference, the USD was down to just over 1800, five years ago. After the COP took a dive in in Mid-2014, the USD hit a 10-year high of 3370 in February of 2016 and had fallen to barely above 3000 when I visited just two months later. From a historical perspective anything approaching 3000 to the US dollar is an awesome deal (if you have US dollars, that is). Today's closing price of 1,20 EU to the USD is less than attractive. And 13900 Rupiah to the Buck means a great time to visit Indonesia.
In Europe in the summer when the Euro hit about 1. 67 to the dollar. Even the cost of a Coke was outrageous! And I also spent a lot of time in Colombia when the COP was in the 1700's. True deals could be found on local products, but not much else. I also enjoyed the 330 rate as well. I would be very happy to see the COP go back to 3000 to the dollar, but even at 2800 or 2900 I am very happy compared to what the rate was when I first married my ex-wife, who was from Bogota.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2174179]Multi-year top? Maybe in the past 3 years, when it was coming off a 10-year low. But it hit 1.60 USD 10 years this July. The dollar has definitely been much weaker against the Euro in the past decade.
Here is a professional source for exchange rates, past and current:
[URL]https://www.xe.com/[/URL]
They also have an app on Google Play. What monthly chart are you referring to? Is this a tech analysis tool?
The Euro was down to $1.05 USD back in the fall of 2015, just over two years ago. By dumb luck, I happened to visit a friend in Berlin at that time. My only regret was not mongering more. The USD has done well in the past weeks, but the Pound Sterling has done the opposite. So, news of a strong dollar does not mean happy news for everyone on these forums. If the USD reclaims 3000 COP by this fall, I will be thrilled.
And as a point of reference, the USD was down to just over 1800, five years ago. After the COP took a dive in in Mid-2014, the USD hit a 10-year high of 3370 in February of 2016 and had fallen to barely above 3000 when I visited just two months later. From a historical perspective anything approaching 3000 to the US dollar is an awesome deal (if you have US dollars, that is). Today's closing price of 1,20 EU to the USD is less than attractive. And 13900 Rupiah to the Buck means a great time to visit Indonesia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2175858]In Europe in the summer when the Euro hit about 1. 67 to the dollar. Even the cost of a Coke was outrageous! And I also spent a lot of time in Colombia when the COP was in the 1700's. True deals could be found on local products, but not much else. I also enjoyed the 330 rate as well. I would be very happy to see the COP go back to 3000 to the dollar, but even at 2800 or 2900 I am very happy compared to what the rate was when I first married my ex-wife, who was from Bogota.[/QUOTE]Things might get even better for those who hold the USD. Unemployment fell below 4% in the US, triggering speculation that the FOMC would hike interest rates four times, whereas there's the consensus that it would happen twice at the beginning of this week.
In other news, drastic action was also taken by Argentina's Central bank in the past week. They hiked interest rates three times! And that still hasn't had much impact on its weakening currency.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/05/04/brakes-slamming-on-argentina-as-central-banks-credibility-damaged/[/URL]#57592 ef410 d5.
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/argentina-central-bank-boosts-main-rate-to-40-in-third-rise-in-eight-days-1525445140[/URL]
Argentina's peso has been sliding in the past few years, which means that maybe Argentina needs extra scrutiny as a mongering destination. Certainly it has it fans here on ISG.
As for ex-wife's abroad, I can certainly relate. Though in hindsight they might be cheaper when you just pay them to leave.
Multi year top as in the highest EUR: USD rate since 2014 and will be the highest rate for a few more years. If you look at the chart below, the EUR: USD has been trending in favor of the USD since the 2008 crisis.
[URL]https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=6E&p=m1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2174179]Multi-year top? Maybe in the past 3 years, when it was coming off a 10-year low. But it hit 1.60 USD 10 years this July. The dollar has definitely been much weaker against the Euro in the past decade.
Here is a professional source for exchange rates, past and current:
[URL]https://www.xe.com/[/URL]
They also have an app on Google Play. What monthly chart are you referring to? Is this a tech analysis tool?
The Euro was down to $1.05 USD back in the fall of 2015, just over two years ago. By dumb luck, I happened to visit a friend in Berlin at that time. My only regret was not mongering more. The USD has done well in the past weeks, but the Pound Sterling has done the opposite. So, news of a strong dollar does not mean happy news for everyone on these forums. If the USD reclaims 3000 COP by this fall, I will be thrilled.
And as a point of reference, the USD was down to just over 1800, five years ago. After the COP took a dive in in Mid-2014, the USD hit a 10-year high of 3370 in February of 2016 and had fallen to barely above 3000 when I visited just two months later. From a historical perspective anything approaching 3000 to the US dollar is an awesome deal (if you have US dollars, that is). Today's closing price of 1,20 EU to the USD is less than attractive. And 13900 Rupiah to the Buck means a great time to visit Indonesia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dccpa;2175940]Multi year top as in the highest EUR: USD rate since 2014 and will be the highest rate for a few more years. If you look at the chart below, the EUR: USD has been trending in favor of the USD since the 2008 crisis.
[URL]https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=6E&p=m1[/URL][/QUOTE]Look at your chart again, dude. The Euro topped in 2008. Three years doesn't constitute "multi-year". The USD has merely strengthened against most currencies in general since the financial crisis, not just the Euro.
I noticed while the Colombian Peso has strengthened the Brazilian Real is at 3. 5 to a US dollar. That's getting close to the 1 US dollar is 4 reals which is a sweet deal if you're in Sao Paolo.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2176227]I noticed while the Colombian Peso has strengthened the Brazilian Real is at 3. 5 to a US dollar. That's getting close to the 1 US dollar is 4 reals which is a sweet deal if you're in Sao Paolo.[/QUOTE]Hmmm or in Rio!
There now 😎
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2175912]Things might get even better for those who hold the USD. Unemployment fell below 4% in the US, triggering speculation that the FOMC would hike interest rates four times, whereas there's the consensus that it would happen twice at the beginning of this week.
In other news, drastic action was also taken by Argentina's Central bank in the past week. They hiked interest rates three times! And that still hasn't had much impact on its weakening currency.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/05/04/brakes-slamming-on-argentina-as-central-banks-credibility-damaged/[/URL]#57592 ef410 d5.
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/argentina-central-bank-boosts-main-rate-to-40-in-third-rise-in-eight-days-1525445140[/URL]
Argentina's peso has been sliding in the past few years, which means that maybe Argentina needs extra scrutiny as a mongering destination. Certainly it has it fans here on ISG.
As for ex-wife's abroad, I can certainly relate. Though in hindsight they might be cheaper when you just pay them to leave.[/QUOTE]The biggest driver of Forex pricing is the relative interest rates of the two locales. Of course country risk and all that other stuff figures in as well. However, central bank rate hikes and cuts are a big driver. The USD has had a couple recent rate hikes. That means USD deposits will make a little more.
As for four hikes this coming year, in part as a response to lower unemployment, I actually think that the reverse is true. The tightening labor market will eventually yield significant wage increases which are, in and of themselves, inflationary. Rapidly increasing the cost of capital at the same time as the market is experiencing material increases in labor costs isn't good policy, if the objective is to keep the recovery going. Also, consider the recent rise in fuel prices.
On the subject of Argentina, I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw the news. The currency has dropped quite a bit (ARS: USD 15:1 to 22:1), since the currency controls came off in 2016. When I first started spending a lot of time in Argentina (2007) the rate was 3. 10 ARS:1 USD. However, it isn't like things are 7 x cheaper, now (constant inflation doesn't help). The women are awesome and there are lots of good expats and forum members in Buenos Aires. Things are starting to get a little cheaper and if the articles I read were on target, things could continue to get cheaper.
My last time to read any of your posts, my last time to reply to you and my last attempt to educate you.
1 The all time high was in 2008, but the Euro has made several tops since then. If you are using a definition of top that is different than everyone else I know, it's a free world.
2 Two years constitutes multi year and so does three years. To argue different makes you look stubborn or foolish.
3 The Euro is a flawed currency that was doomed from the start. In the last few months, the Euro finally made a back test to the neckline of the H&S pattern that started in 2004. The USD will be over par vs. The Euro within the year. Personally, I consider that kind of move to be more than merely strengthening. But again, you may have a different definition than most people.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2175989]Look at your chart again, dude. The Euro topped in 2008. Three years doesn't constitute "multi-year". The USD has merely strengthened against most currencies in general since the financial crisis, not just the Euro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dccpa;2176485]My last time to read any of your posts, my last time to reply to you and my last attempt to educate you.
Two years constitutes multi year and so does three years. To argue different makes you look stubborn or foolish.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thanks for educating me. Have fun with your currency speculation. I expect you will get rich on it, soon enough.
Heading this weekend there. Saturday 6 pm is Ley seca because of the elections. Will establishments be open Saturday night? Will establishments be open on Sunday?
[QUOTE=Caribb777;2184524]Heading this weekend there. Saturday 6 pm is Ley seca because of the elections. Will establishments be open Saturday night? Will establishments be open on Sunday?[/QUOTE]No. They will all close at 6 pm Saturday and will not reopen until Monday.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167564]It is the dollar getting weaker. Dollar down 18% against the euro since Trump was elected and began running his mouth. Oil prices up nearly 30%. Look at the COP vs. The euro. Gone virtually nowhere.[/QUOTE]Well, it seems there is also a bit more rational explanation for the temporary strength of the COP.
[URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-why-emerging-market-investors-are-swooning-over-colombias-peso-2018-06-06[/URL]
Of course, if you want to persist in blaming presidents for low exchange rates, we must note that during Obama's two terms, the dollar spent at least half of those 8 years under 2000 COP. Personally, I'm inclined to look at the big picture as to what influences exchange rates, instead of only what goes on in the White House.
In other news, the USD broke about 2900 COP a week ago, and has stayed there. The COP lost momentum against the USD on April 18, a week after the Fed released the "minutes" from their prior meeting in March. The Thai Baht also turned around on April 18, while the Brazilian Real hastened its decline on that same date. Its typically a bad thing for a developing nation's currency when the FOMC embarks on a path to raising interest rates. But, is can be a blessing for those of us who prefer to monger in the developing world.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2195627]Well, it seems there is also a bit more rational explanation for the temporary strength of the COP.
[URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-why-emerging-market-investors-are-swooning-over-colombias-peso-2018-06-06[/URL]
Of course, if you want to persist in blaming presidents for low exchange rates, we must note that during Obama's two terms, the dollar spent at least half of those 8 years under 2000 COP. Personally, I'm inclined to look at the big picture as to what influences exchange rates, instead of only what goes on in the White House.
In other news, the USD broke about 2900 COP a week ago, and has stayed there. The COP lost momentum against the USD on April 18, a week after the Fed released the "minutes" from their prior meeting in March. The Thai Baht also turned around on April 18, while the Brazilian Real hastened its decline on that same date. Its typically a bad thing for a developing nation's currency when the FOMC embarks on a path to raising interest rates. But, is can be a blessing for those of us who prefer to monger in the developing world.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Anyone complaining about the current exchange rate has lost perspective. 2946 close today is a fantastic rate. Heck, if it stays above 2500 to the USD, that is still a damn good rate. I've been going to Colombia for over a decade and a lot of that time the rate has been under 2000.
Also trying to blame / credit the current politicians for a good or bad exchange rate is ridiculous (though the-Bags on both sides do it). I've traded FX for a living for most of my life. So many things go into an exchange rate that are completely outside a president's influence.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2201101]I'm not debating whether the 10% is a large number. I'm just pointing out that with the ratio of men to women on the site, the chicks from SA are no less used than any other chicks that us mongers are fucking for money.[/QUOTE]I don't think the ratio of women to men has anything to do with how used the girls are, that depends on her MO, is she a real sugar baby / part timer or a escort. Seems to be about 1 out of 5 are actual high volume escorts, the rest are real SB's, college girls / low income chicks looking to make some extra money on the side and get dinner & drinks + maybe sex.
The escort ones want to come right to your house the 1st time, no dinner, drinks etc and may have a driver and they watch the clock, have rules and usually have a lower starting price. The real SB's will want to meet you somewhere for dinner / drinks and see how they like you first. My fav for a year was a 19 yo (the 1st pic I posted with the bikini and huge tits, which were natural, she was only about 5' tall too with a model's face) she lived at home with her parents and had no car, told her parents I was her "Uber" driver when I came to pick her up. Gave her $400 the 1st time she was so hot but we got that down to $100 in about 2 weeks. We would get some take out sushi, drink some Saki, lay on the couch and watch some Top Gear (I turned her on to it) then I'd give her a full body massage and we'd have awesome sex, on the pill, no condom. Avg time over about 3+ hours at least once a week. She didn't want to go out cause we might run into her parents. LOL.
No full time escort would follow that plan.
One of my other fav was the one in the pic on stage as a fitness competitor, 27 yo, saw her for almost 2 years, ran her own business, worked out all the time and did the NPC fitness competitions and dog rescue. She told me she didn't have time for a BF but still wanted some sex. Apparently her last BF was a big time leech. Basically same MO as other girl except she had a car and wanted $200, came over for sushi, Saki, Top Gear, back rub, and bare back sex, 2 to 3 hours at my place. Me & her did several out of town vacations incld camping on the beach in the Dry Tortugas for 3 days.
Also saw for a few months a chick who was a WingHouse waitress (like Hooters). She was the most fun in bed as she was up for anything. She did want $300 though so didn't see her that long.
Those girls all had $300 to $400 an hour bodies and faces to me.
There is a 3rd type though, ones who ask for $100 to meet you for dinner / drinks and have no intention of sleeping with anyone, do that 7 times a week and they don't need a job.
My 3 favs: (out of around 40 SB's I took home off the sites).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2201274]I don't think the ratio of women to men has anything to do with how used the girls are, that depends on her MO, is she a real sugar baby / part timer or a escort. Seems to be about 1 out of 5 are actual high volume escorts, the rest are real SB's, college girls / low income chicks looking to make some extra money on the side and get dinner & drinks + maybe sex.
The escort ones want to come right to your house the 1st time, no dinner, drinks etc and may have a driver and they watch the clock, have rules and usually have a lower starting price. The real SB's will want to meet you somewhere for dinner / drinks and see how they like you first. My fav for a year was a 19 yo (the 1st pic I posted with the bikini and huge tits, which were natural, she was only about 5' tall too with a model's face) she lived at home with her parents and had no car, told her parents I was her "Uber" driver when I came to pick her up. Gave her $400 the 1st time she was so hot but we got that down to $100 in about 2 weeks. We would get some take out sushi, drink some Saki, lay on the couch and watch some Top Gear (I turned her on to it) then I'd give her a full body massage and we'd have awesome sex, on the pill, no condom. Avg time over about 3+ hours at least once a week. She didn't want to go out cause we might run into her parents. LOL.
No full time escort would follow that plan..[/QUOTE]They are asking for 300-400 USD?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2201531]They are asking for 300-400 USD?[/QUOTE]No, not really, my MO is to offer them $100 to meet for dinner and drinks and then during dinner if we get along offer another $200 to come home with me so they walk with $300. Then after a few visits say you'd love to see them tonight but only have X amount of dollars ($100 to 200) and see if they take it. Most do if you've been treating them right.
The 19 yo with the big natural tits I did offer her 400 the 1st time because I really wanted to seal the deal, worked great because she came over (well I picked her up) for a year at $100 a visit later on.
I thought she was worth it:
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2201591]No, not really, my MO is to offer them $100 to meet for dinner and drinks and then during dinner if we get along offer another $200 to come home with me so they walk with $300. Then after a few visits say you'd love to see them tonight but only have X amount of dollars ($100 to 200) and see if they take it. Most do if you've been treating them right.
The 19 yo with the big natural tits I did offer her 400 the 1st time because I really wanted to seal the deal, worked great because she came over (well I picked her up) for a year at $100 a visit later on.
I thought she was worth it:[/QUOTE]But your referring $100=100 k cop not 100 usd right? LOL.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2195627]Well, it seems there is also a bit more rational explanation for the temporary strength of the COP.
[URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-why-emerging-market-investors-are-swooning-over-colombias-peso-2018-06-06[/URL]
Of course, if you want to persist in blaming presidents for low exchange rates, we must note that during Obama's two terms, the dollar spent at least half of those 8 years under 2000 COP. Personally, I'm inclined to look at the big picture as to what influences exchange rates, instead of only what goes on in the White House.
In other news, the USD broke about 2900 COP a week ago, and has stayed there. The COP lost momentum against the USD on April 18, a week after the Fed released the "minutes" from their prior meeting in March. The Thai Baht also turned around on April 18, while the Brazilian Real hastened its decline on that same date. Its typically a bad thing for a developing nation's currency when the FOMC embarks on a path to raising interest rates. But, is can be a blessing for those of us who prefer to monger in the developing world.[/QUOTE]In the long run, exchange rate reflects only difference in inflation rates. This statement is not said lightly. There can be deviations from the rate determined by inflation but they quickly even out usually within microseconds.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2201846]But your referring $100=100 k cop not 100 usd right? LOL.[/QUOTE]Well I was talking about when I use SA in the US, those are dollar figures. In MED I offered the SA girls 300 k pesos for all night.
It will be my third time, will stay at M1 (poor Spanish). Based on massage quality and sexual talent, what will be your first choice? Thanks in advance for your help.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2202054]Well I was talking about when I use SA in the US, those are dollar figures. In MED I offered the SA girls 300 k pesos for all night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up, when I read your original post I was thinking, fuck, got to start looking for the next place because Medellin just died.
There are no real SB's on SA. Real SB's don't have ads, they don't need them, they have guys who pay their bills. They might, and I stress might, be low volume prostitutes but they are not sugar babies.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2204404]
There are no real SB's on SA. Real SB's don't have ads, they don't need them, they have guys who pay their bills. They might, and I stress might, be low volume prostitutes but they are not sugar babies.[/QUOTE]Not true at all. There are sugar babies that lost their sugar daddy and are looking for a new one, there are sugar babies that have sugar daddies and are looking for a more generous one and there are want to be sugar babies looking for their first sugar daddy. There are also full time prostitutes and as you pointed out low volume prostitutes. I have been with all types of girls from that site.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2204488]Not true at all. There are sugar babies that lost their sugar daddy and are looking for a new one, there are sugar babies that have sugar daddies and are looking for a more generous one and there are want to be sugar babies looking for their first sugar daddy. There are also full time prostitutes and as you pointed out low volume prostitutes. I have been with all types of girls from that site.[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree, there is a full spectrum of choices.
Has anyone tried out the new (ish) sports bar places in Parque Lleras. Ray's & Aye Way? Are they worth checking out?
Are there any nights of the week that might be better to leave Poblado, and go to Laureles / Envigado / etc?
[QUOTE=PseudoGene;2202477]It will be my third time, will stay at M1 (poor Spanish). Based on massage quality and sexual talent, what will be your first choice? Thanks in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]You might try OM Mens spa. It's on the 4th floor in the back of Rio Sur Mall, just a few blocks from M1. Right across from Ovieda Mall. Cost is 100 K for 1 hour legit massage. Some girls will offer extras for 50-100 K more, but some not do. Anyway a 1st class massage.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2204523]Has anyone tried out the new (ish) sports bar places in Parque Lleras. Ray's & Aye Way? Are they worth checking out?
Are there any nights of the week that might be better to leave Poblado, and go to Laureles / Envigado / etc?[/QUOTE]Any night when Nacional is playing a home game is a good night to go to Laureles, if you don't mind the crowds. Thursday through Saturday is the best time to visit any of the nightlife areas. Sunday and Monday are dead, unless Monday is a holiday. Tuesday and Wednesday pick up a little bit.
[QUOTE=PseudoGene;2202477]It will be my third time, will stay at M1 (poor Spanish). Based on massage quality and sexual talent, what will be your first choice? Thanks in advance for your help.[/QUOTE][URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/relajate-con-un-masaje/11005597/[/URL]
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I am sure the massages end with a hand job. I enjoy going to these places once in awhile.
[QUOTE=MSClive;2201882]In the long run, exchange rate reflects only difference in inflation rates. This statement is not said lightly. There can be deviations from the rate determined by inflation but they quickly even out usually within microseconds.[/QUOTE]The largest determinant of the difference in exchange rates is the relative interest rates in the respective locales, which take inflation into account. However, the biggest driver of the respective interest rates is central bank policy. Included in the calculus is also all of the risks (sovereign, economic, market, etc.). But you are near the core that the interest rate differentials are the key.
Sorry for chiming in, but I couldn't help myself.
After seeing the discussion about sending money to girls, I've reached a conclusion; it doesn't matter what you do. If you want to send money to a girl, whether for a life saving operation or to buy cat food, send the money. If you don't want to send the money, don't.
I've sent money to a few, I've told most no. I've got my criteria and don't believe I'm scoring any points or somehow winning them over. Sometimes I enjoy doing nice things, knowing I'll get nothing in return.
Do the few I've sent $30 to think I'm a fool? Do I care? Not in the least. Do you honestly believe that your prepago friends respect you? When you're not around, you're just another Bobo. When they are around me, I expect certain things. When they're not around me, I expect them to talk about me the same way they talk about other guys with me.
If you want to give a girl 300,400 or 900 k, when others are paying 150 k, go for it. It's your money. If you want to take her shopping, or take her to Europe, more power to you. It's your life, enjoy it while you can.
Now everyone will want to blame you for ruining the market, but fuck them. They are neglecting one important factor; the sizzle.
Probably came from Zig ZIglar, "don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle. " Why are young, gorgeous Colombianas eager to come fuck us old gringos? I can guarantee they aren't figuring out how much they can save, how to invest, etc. They are looking for that pot of gold. Each one of us is a potential winning lottery ticket. Every one of them knows someone who found a rich husband, or a sugar daddy. They all know someone who got to travel around the world, who got a high paying modeling job, or who got out of their barrio and moved up in the world.
When there are no more Cinderella stories, the fountain will dry up. If all the lotteries had a top prize of $50,000 they'd sell a lot less tickets. If the best any girl can hope for is to get 200 k, a lot more are going to be looking for other lines of work. Even if economic conditions force them into prostitution, the incentive is gone. There's no big payoff, it's just something to tolerate to get paid. Instead of fun, energetic sessions, you'll just get starfish.
I think what everyone is worried about is that the girl they want won't be available, because someone just sent her some money, or someone took her to Germany. Big deal. Each one of them has 6 cousins, 14 friends and a sister who aren't in Europe, that don't have a WU sugar daddy and are looking for a little bit of money.
Do what makes you happy.
Jbee62,
That is the best post I have read on ISG all year.
While I have probably been guilty of it myself, one of the worst things about ISG is the attitude that everyone must do things exactly the same way and that this dynamic market can be controlled and unchanged if everyone does things exactly the same. Services are variable from Girl to Girl and even from the same girl to the next guy since it is a personal service business that is difficult to commoditize, higher prices usually bring better talent and performance, the cure for higher prices is higher prices (lower cost entrants enter the market and / or demand falls off), and the cure for lower prices is lower prices (guys will travel there if performance is good and bid the prices up).
I get amused at the techniques for guys who like a market to try to eliminate or stall these changes. Your advice is the best. Let everyone do what makes them happy and let the market adjust how the market adjusts. I have never seen a controlled market for anything turn out good.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2211228]After seeing the discussion about sending money to girls, I've reached a conclusion; it doesn't matter what you do. If you want to send money to a girl, whether for a life saving operation or to buy cat food, send the money. If you don't want to send the money, don't.
I've sent money to a few, I've told most no. I've got my criteria and don't believe I'm scoring any points or somehow winning them over. Sometimes I enjoy doing nice things, knowing I'll get nothing in return.
Do the few I've sent $30 to think I'm a fool? Do I care? Not in the least. Do you honestly believe that your prepago friends respect you? When you're not around, you're just another Bobo. When they are around me, I expect certain things. When they're not around me, I expect them to talk about me the same way they talk about other guys with me.
If you want to give a girl 300,400 or 900 k, when others are paying 150 k, go for it. It's your money. If you want to take her shopping, or take her to Europe, more power to you. It's your life, enjoy it while you can.[/QUOTE]Exacto! Right on!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2211228]After seeing the discussion about sending money to girls, I've reached a conclusion; it doesn't matter what you do. If you want to send money to a girl, whether for a life saving operation or to buy cat food, send the money. If you don't want to send the money, don't.
I've sent money to a few, I've told most no. I've got my criteria and don't believe I'm scoring any points or somehow winning them over. Sometimes I enjoy doing nice things, knowing I'll get nothing in return.
Do the few I've sent $30 to think I'm a fool? Do I care? Not in the least. Do you honestly believe that your prepago friends respect you? When you're not around, you're just another Bobo. When they are around me, I expect certain things. When they're not around me, I expect them to talk about me the same way they talk about other guys with me..[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said except the part about sending them $$ when you're not with them. Otherwise spend it on them as you please it's your own $$ and no one has the right to tell you how yo spend it.
I agree there's a lot of folks here getting upset because they have hot girls who won't take their 150-200 k anymore because others are willing to pay more.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2211228]After seeing the discussion about sending money to girls, I've reached a conclusion; it doesn't matter what you do. If you want to send money to a girl, whether for a life saving operation or to buy cat food, send the money. If you don't want to send the money, don't.
I've sent money to a few, I've told most no. I've got my criteria and don't believe I'm scoring any points or somehow winning them over. Sometimes I enjoy doing nice things, knowing I'll get nothing in return.
Do the few I've sent $30 to think I'm a fool? Do I care? Not in the least. Do you honestly believe that your prepago friends respect you? When you're not around, you're just another Bobo. When they are around me, I expect certain things. When they're not around me, I expect them to talk about me the same way they talk about other guys with me.
If you want to give a girl 300,400 or 900 k, when others are paying 150 k, go for it. It's your money. If you want to take her shopping, or take her to Europe, more power to you. It's your life, enjoy it while you can.
Now everyone will want to blame you for ruining the market, but fuck them. They are neglecting one important factor; the sizzle.
Probably came from Zig ZIglar, "don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle. " Why are young, gorgeous Colombianas eager to come fuck us old gringos? I can guarantee they aren't figuring out how much they can save, how to invest, etc. They are looking for that pot of gold. Each one of us is a potential winning lottery ticket. Every one of them knows someone who found a rich husband, or a sugar daddy. They all know someone who got to travel around the world, who got a high paying modeling job, or who got out of their barrio and moved up in the world.
When there are no more Cinderella stories, the fountain will dry up. If all the lotteries had a top prize of $50,000 they'd sell a lot less tickets. If the best any girl can hope for is to get 200 k, a lot more are going to be looking for other lines of work. Even if economic conditions force them into prostitution, the incentive is gone. There's no big payoff, it's just something to tolerate to get paid. Instead of fun, energetic sessions, you'll just get starfish.
I think what everyone is worried about is that the girl they want won't be available, because someone just sent her some money, or someone took her to Germany. Big deal. Each one of them has 6 cousins, 14 friends and a sister who aren't in Europe, that don't have a WU sugar daddy and are looking for a little bit of money.
Do what makes you happy.[/QUOTE]Once again, the voice of reason and common sense.
You posted exactly what I was thinking.
I just bought and gave a few girls here in Brazil refurbished nice android phones off eBay, 100 bucks each. They didnt ask for them, I know theyre struggling and needed them.
Made me feel good, I know they loved it.
Now if they call me a bobo behind my back, or dont respect me like some guys here say, which I doubt, I really dont care, Lol
I feel good about it, and they always take good care of me.
Be happy as you say.
Great concept! 😉
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2211228]After seeing the discussion about sending money to girls, I've reached a conclusion; it doesn't matter what you do. If you want to send money to a girl, whether for a life saving operation or to buy cat food, send the money. If you don't want to send the money, don't.
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Do what makes you happy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post, JjBee62. A few days ago, I thought about writing almost the same thing.
I worked many years and saved money so I could enjoy retirement. When I was working, I didn't envision enjoying time with the young ladies of Medellin. Actually, I never did any research about life in Colombia. It was happenstance that I discovered the mongering scene in Central and South America. I was looking to have some dental work done, and didn't want to pay the outrageous prices in the US. I decided to go to Costa Rica because reports were good about dentistry there. As a by-product, I found some nice ladies there that wanted to be mutual "friends with benefits". Migration from Costa Rica to Colombia was only natural for me. I still go to Costa Rica for dental work, but not for the ladies, other than friends.
I never tell other adults how they should live their life, and I respect those who don't try to tell me what I should do with my money. If I feel like sending money to someone I know in Medellin or paying 200 mil for an hour with them, I will do it. If someone feels that is upsetting the apple cart, then so be it. I take gifts to waitresses in Medellin who I don't envision ever being in bed with. They show appreciation when they receive the gifts, and that's enough for me. When I was growing up, my parents were very poor, money wise. I appreciated any gift of anything. I think that same feeling is in many of the young people of Medellin.
I don't think I will ever over extend myself with being generous to others. I know my limits. If only one person whom I have given something to or paid a little extra to has had their life enriched in any way by what I did, then my mission is a success.
To keep from further clutter in the Medellin reports thread, I'm putting this here.
There have been a few guys complaining that the internet in general and specifically Facebook has ruined the hunt for prepagos in Medellin. Instead of hanging out in bars or working at casas or strip clubs, the women are sitting at home waiting for some loser to send them a message. It's a real tragedy.
I'm curious about one thing. In what way is going to a bar where prostitutes hang out and picking out a prostitute, hunting? Do you hunt for meat at the grocery store? It sounds suspiciously like shopping to me. I can understand going to a strange city, wandering the streets, hitting all the bars and clubs trying to find the bars with the hookers. That sounds like hunting. But, if you're just looking it up on a map, or asking a taxi driver, or another monger, you're simply getting directions to where you're going to shop.
If you're getting your information from ISG, you're not hunting.
There is one example that qualifies as hunting. If you're trying to find a girlfriend or wife, or trying to find someone who's never considered selling sex, that's hunting. Unless you're just asking another prepago to bring her cousin.
Facebook hasn't really changed anything. Maybe the average person is paying more now than 15 years ago. But everything you buy has gone up in price over the past 15 years. Why should pussy be exempt? Maybe there are less quality girls in the places where you used to find them. Any hunter will tell you that's what happens when an area gets hunted out.
If you still want to don your pith helmet and pretend you're the mighty hunter tracking his prey, just send a message and ask her to meet you at a bar. Then you can use your finely honed skills to bag the trophy.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2220217]I'm curious about one thing. In what way is going to a bar where prostitutes hang out and picking out a prostitute, hunting? Do you hunt for meat at the grocery store? It sounds suspiciously like shopping to me. I can understand going to a strange city, wandering the streets, hitting all the bars and clubs trying to find the bars with the hookers. That sounds like hunting. But, if you're just looking it up on a map, or asking a taxi driver, or another monger, you're simply getting directions to where you're going to shop.
If you're getting your information from ISG, you're not hunting.
There is one example that qualifies as hunting. If you're trying to find a girlfriend or wife, or trying to find someone who's never considered selling sex, that's hunting. Unless you're just asking another prepago to bring her cousin.[/QUOTE]Well I feel like the redlight blocks are sort of a hunt. At least a hunt for the one I think is hot. Do a lap or 2 of Vera Cruz then over to Raudal then back to VC.
JjBee62,
I always enjoy your humorous and thought-provoking posts.
If the issue is simply adapting to technology, I think people need to do so. One of my favorite episodes of the cartoon King of the Hill involves the old grandpa who had taken his sons and the friends of his son to a hotel brothel thirty or forty years ago (they all loved it except for the son. The old grandpa decides to take his grandson and the grandson's friends to the same place but the reactions are not positive as grandpa slaps attractive women on the butt and tells the youngsters to pick out a good one, then the camera shows the sign at the now upscale hotel, "Women Trial Lawyer Assiciation Meeting."
Guys who don't adapt run the risk of ending up like that Grandpa.
But I can't help but feel that some of the guys taking issue with Facebook appointments are correctly concerned about disruptive technology entering the South American market, which is relatively more limited to Spanish and Portuguese speakers in comparison to the markets of Europe and Asia that are more easily accessible by English-only speaking johns. I realize The Mansion is the exception, but it only holds so many guests.
For the prototype attractive sex worker who most of us would rate 8-10, the highest prices in the world by far is in the USA Upper-end call girl scene, followed closely by London England and the upscale agencies in Sydney and Melbourne Australia. Canada is less expensive than either of those places, but English-speaking Toronto is more expensive than largely French-speaking Montreal. The recent FOSTA crackdown on sex work in the US has made that market even more difficult to access for American johns.
Those places are likely the most expensive in the world because the Johns there have the highest level of income and wealth. When an English-only speaking John looks at some markets, he realizes that many less expensive markets are fully accessible with a smartphone that he can use WhatsApp and Google Translate with. The market I do most of my posts on, Barcelona, offers a guy willing to translate the ability to read reviews by locals and access relatively lower priced local ladies (in comparison to the prices at brothels that more specifically cater to tourists). Plenty of guys communicate with a lady and find her incall location using electronics in a manner that would simply be impossible with a verbal conversation with his English and her Spanish, even if they know a few words of the other language.
The pricing difference is more pronounced between the South American market and the USA Market than it is between the USA Market and the European market. But a lot more USA English-only speakers make mongering trips to Europe than to South America in my observation.
I have always thought that the lack of ability to easily communicate with women was one of the primary factors driving the favorability of Europe for English-only speakers. I realize there are others, including lack of guest-friendly hotels and perception of greater physical dangers.
But it would seem to me that in the long run, if more USA Guys felt comfortable that they would be making a trip that would result in them actually seeing a specific very attractive lady (or three or four) that they are communicating with online with real pictures and who are reviewed by guys they trust, there would be more travel by these guys to South America.
That would probably result in higher prices as the large price gap decreases a little bit, and South American ladies realize these guys will pay more than the ladies are currently charging.
I could of course be wrong, it is just a hypothesis. But it would rationally explain why a lot of mongers, with a competitive advantage of speaking Spanish and knowing where the non-electronic meeting places are, would dislike ladies starting to use electronic communications accessible by johns worldwide.
I notice on the argentinaprivate forum that one lady, who also has provider friends, advertises very specifically for English speakers and goes out of her way to make the process of seeing her very easy for English-only customers. She charges a ridiculously higher price than her Spanish speaking competitors, and gets blasted in comments by some long-term contributors to that forum (even though she gets good reviews). That would be evidence that some guys reasonably do not want technology to change their existing market in a manner that might significantly increase prices. I am not being critical of them, just presenting a hypothesis.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2220217]
I'm curious about one thing. In what way is going to a bar where prostitutes hang out and picking out a prostitute, hunting? Do you hunt for meat at the grocery store? It sounds suspiciously like shopping to me. I can understand going to a strange city, wandering the streets, hitting all the bars and clubs trying to find the bars with the hookers. That sounds like hunting. But, if you're just looking it up on a map, or asking a taxi driver, or another monger, you're simply getting directions to where you're going to shop.
[/QUOTE]What I described as hunting in the other thread is really shopping. I like to shop in places that others on the ISG Board have not been or at the very least have not been described in reports. If you look in the Madrid thread last June, I reported on 4 places previously unidentified.
If you look at the Buenos Aires thread, you will see that I liked to go to the places listed as therapeutic on the website [URL]http://www.todomasajes.net/page00.htm[/URL] to find the chicas who gave full service.
From my research, I would say there are at least 100 apartments in Belen and Laureles that have not been reviewed on ISG. Nobody seems to travel to the apartments in Bello or at least reports on it.
The local Boards don't use the metaphor of hunting but use the term "going kamikaze. " It means going to a place that has no reviews. However, it is obvious that no one is going to die and everybody is going to return from the mission.
I think when I use the word "hunt", I really mean that I am searching for chica prostitutes that are keepers.
But on the other hand, maybe your definition of hunting is too strict. When my Dad went pheasant hunting in Iowa, he hired a guide who owned bird dogs. By your strict definition, my Dad has never been pheasant hunting because he used other people's expertise to find the best spots.
JjBee.
I, like some of those posters you refer to, enjoy meeting them in person. However, it's not so much the "hunt" that appeals to me. It's the seeing and interacting with them live. You can much better judge both their physical appearance and the chemistry you feel with them when you meet them in person. For me, that greatly increases the odds of a good experience with them en la cama.
FWIW, there are still enough places where you can meet them in person. I rarely use Facebook and I've had no trouble in recent visits meeting and boning hot women. Our hobby hasn't gone to shit like some of the doomsayers insist.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2220250]Well I feel like the redlight blocks are sort of a hunt. At least a hunt for the one I think is hot. Do a lap or 2 of Vera Cruz then over to Raudal then back to VC.[/QUOTE]I'll reply to everyone in one post, starting with Wolf662.
My preferred path was down the alley, down 1 side of Veracruz, down to Raudal, cover both sides, then up to Carrera 53, cruise the bars on both sides, up to Carrera 52 a,. Walk it down to Calle 54, take that back to Raudal, cruise, usually the west side, then back up the other side of Veracruz. But that's just the selection process. I walked with a guy who was hunting in El Centro, but he was hitting up all the women working in the stores and kiosks. He found more than one taker.
Mongerer88:
What they're bemoaning is the loss of the frontier. It's inevitable that the frontier will disappear. There was a time, before my time when Ireland and Australia were the places to go. If the stories are halfway true, all you needed was a US Military ID and some basic manners. Money wasn't required other than to take the girls to dinner. Then there was a time when $5 in the Philippines would get you a woman, a bed and breakfast, $25 would get all the above for a week. Now half the hookers in PI have a PayPal account.
There are probably places in Colombia where you can find real bargains, but it's not Medellin. Medellin is too accessible. There are also, probably, some relatively unknown bargain spots in Europe, especially in some of the former Soviet Republics.
Big Boss Man, I think you've got the right idea. It's not so much hunting as TOFTT. Taking one for the team. It's a valuable service you're providing.
As for your dad's hunting. Nothing wrong with using the tools that are available. It means he probably always comes back with a pheasant. That's what Facebook is. Just another tool.
Combo, I like most of the mongers that I've met. A lot of good guys. Each has their own routine that works for them. I've used all the methods. Facebook appeals to me, because it gives me a better understanding of the girls. It adds depth which is usually not going to be found in the bar.
However, I also prefer to meet the women in a bar. Even better if there's a party going on. I'd rather sit and talk before making a decision.
I've tried to say this 1 million times! I agree with every single sentence here! The sizzle concept is icing on the cake! People are forgetting that your having sex! Banging beautiful women. I get there is money involved but don't let $17 extra dollars ruin an amazing experience that you obviously couldn't get for free with equal amounts of effort. I see guys that complain about paying 250 k but will pay 200 k. It blows my mind. I get everyone wants to get the best bang for their buck. Pun intended. But remember you are on vacation. Spoil yourself sometimes! Don't be stupid. Just be realistic. If you want to bang her but she is out of your price range then move on. Take a 2nd 3rd or 4th option but just know. You really wanted to bang her. Weigh it on the scale! Is my mental and physical experience with her worth this amount. She is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. Do I pay her say 300 k and remember her for the rest of my life. Or do I pay 7 regular pretty girls 125 k and remember 3 of them. It's all about the experience that you want to give yourself! Remember mongering is one of the most selfish sports to partake in. Sure your "helping" some girl feed her kids but at the end of the day it's about using money to satisfy your "own" sexual needs. When it comes to pleasing yourself. Always go the distance. You'll be way happier at the end of your trips. There's no guarantee the expensive girl will perform better than the cheaper girl or vice versa but the thing I can guarantee is you gave yourself what you will become more in tune with yourself by always spoiling yourself when you have the chance. The money will come and go. You will travel. You will monger. Make it an experience thing rather than a notched on belt thing and you'll enjoy it more. At least I do.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2211228]I think what everyone is worried about is that the girl they want won't be available, because someone just sent her some money, or someone took her to Germany. Big deal. Each one of them has 6 cousins, 14 friends and a sister who aren't in Europe, that don't have a WU sugar daddy and are looking for a little bit of money.
Do what makes you happy.[/QUOTE]
Is there a need for a driver to take you around the country?
Is there a list or link to the reliable driver / tour guides around Medellin who can be trusted?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Scamnew;2226731]Is there a need for a driver to take you around the country?
Is there a list or link to the reliable driver / tour guides around Medellin who can be trusted?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Around the country, or around the city? Around the country, it's best to fly. Tickets are not expensive. If you're really on a budget and have the time, take a bus. Hiring a driver to take you around the country will cost more than flying and take as long as riding the bus.
Getting around the city is easy and cheap by either Taxi or Uber. It's even cheaper to take a bus or the metro. Why pay someone $30-$50 for a $5 ride?
What tours are you interested in? What areas of the city or country? There are plenty of guides, but some are better for certain things and others aren't good for certain things.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2230505]I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]The confusion comes from a misunderstanding, by so many, about the meaning of the word "need." Nobody needs to know Spanish to visit Medellin, or anywhere else. They won't be forced to leave the country if they can't pass a basic Spanish knowledge test at the airport.
If the Mansion is the environment someone prefers, they can stay there and their lack of Spanish will be less noticeable to them. There will always be an English speaker around to help. There will be other guests who either speak Spanish, or have learned, after repeat visits, enough Spanish to get by with what they want to do. Even the girls who hang out there are more likely to be familiar with Google Translate.
If someone speaks no Spanish and stays somewhere else, they will experience more difficulty. There will be frustration and confusion. There's a greater chance they will be victim to some scam. It's unlikely they will enjoy the trip as much as they would if they spent a few hours a day picking up basic Spanish. However, it may not matter to them. They might be happy enough with their trip without Spanish.
Through the forum you can learn several ways to get laid in Medellin. If you know where the casas and strip clubs are, and you have Google Translate, you can get by. You can even limit your restaurants to US franchises and be able to figure out how to order crap by pointing at the menu. If getting laid, cheaply, by young, attractive women is all that matters, Spanish isn't necessary.
However, the more Spanish you know, the more you will get out of your visit. This is especially true if you are doing more than just going to casas and strip clubs every day. Anywhere you go in Medellin you'll find people willing to talk to you. I found it difficult to avoid people who wanted to talk to me. If you get on an elevator and someone else is on, they'll greet you. When they get out, they'll tell you "hasta luego" or "esta bien" (until later / see you later, or be well). Waiters will ask how your food was. Taxi drivers will ask where you're from. Practically every week someone would stop and ask me for directions. Paisas are friendly and they love to talk. If you can talk with them, a whole new world opens up.
When you can handle the basics in Spanish, things get easier. You can acknowledge and reply to greetings, you can ask basic questions. I used to joke that I knew enough Spanish to buy a beer, find the bathroom and get slapped. Now I know more. With a bit of work you can learn the denominations, so you don't have to depend on a cashier to pull the correct amount of money out of the bills you hold out. You can learn to ask if a restaurant has an English menu. You can even learn how to order a hamburger that's not red in the middle.
More importantly, you can talk with the women. Just being able to give a few compliments, and to ask and answer a few questions will improve every encounter and it will open up new opportunities. That cute waitress around the corner from your hotel, the one who always smiles at you, she might be happy to go on a regular date with you. Or she might be happy to come to your room after work for a reasonable fee. Or she might have a friend. The maid who cleans your room might have a daughter, who would be happy to visit. There are thousands of options.
Those doors are out there, just waiting to be opened, but you have to speak the language.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2230641]When you can handle the basics in Spanish, things get easier.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% on the whole post but didn't want to quote it all again. Thanks for being such an asset to the forum.
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2301820]I learned the hard way to bro. Not to your extreme, but totally not worth all that drama. Guys stop PM'in me for MDE contacts. Haha.
The great day of Medellin are slowly drifting away. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]The day after someone "discovers" a place it's great days begin drifting away. Fortunately, Medellin is large enough that it will be awhile before it's ruined.
I've talked about sharing info with strangers before. If you plan on seeing the girl again, don't do it. Of course, if I never planning to see a girl again, she's not someone I'd recommend anyway.
My recommendations are reserved for people I know, or people who have an established reputation.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2230641]If someone speaks no Spanish and stays somewhere else, they will experience more difficulty. There will be frustration and confusion. There's a greater chance they will be victim to some scam. It's unlikely they will enjoy the trip as much as they would if they spent a few hours a day picking up basic Spanish. However, it may not matter to them. They might be happy enough with their trip without Spanish.[/QUOTE]Each and every word of this post is true. Thanks JjBee62 for writing it so clearly.
I've been working on my Spanish for the last few years (slowly) and I'm far from being an expert or anything close.
I've noticed that certain idiomatic phrases in English just don't work in Spanish. Just a few obvious examples: We "take" a shower, they "shower themselves". We "spend" time, they "pass" time.
So, here is the point of my rambling. If I want to inquire about "going down" or "eating pussy" I have a suspicion that these idiomatic expressions won't make any sense in Spanish if translated literally.
I've used this phrase: Podria besarte entre sus piernas? (Could I kiss you between your legs). It generally works as far as understanding goes.
So, I'm curious if any of my amigos here with more polished Spanish know the correct way to phrase the question without being too crude.
Many thanks!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2346343]I've used this phrase: Podria besarte entre sus piernas? (Could I kiss you between your legs). It generally works as far as understanding goes.
So, I'm curious if any of my amigos here with more polished Spanish know the correct way to phrase the question without being too crude.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]Puedo besar tu vagina? (May / can I kiss your vagina?) I haven't encountered a chica yet who thinks that is crude. But usually, I start kissing down their stomach, and before getting to the sweet spot, I ask "OK?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2346392]Puedo besar tu vagina? (May / can I kiss your vagina?) I haven't encountered a chica yet who thinks that is crude. But usually, I start kissing down their stomach, and before getting to the sweet spot, I ask "OK?[/QUOTE]Vagina is a little clinical. Mamar la panocha, which is my go to phrase in Mexico and the DR, often got blank stares in Colombia. On the Caribbean coast they seemed to like mamar la concha (little shell), but I think "cuca" is most widely understood. But also "papaya" and "la cosita".
[QUOTE=Villainy;2346343]So, I'm curious if any of my amigos here with more polished Spanish know the correct way to phrase the question without being too crude.[/QUOTE]Why worry about being crude when you are fucking a chick or fucking a chick is on the table? When I am ass nekkit with a chick excuse me would you pass me the condom please is the last thing I would say. I see a lot of guys mentioning asking about things during sex. Just do it and make it natural. Like JC said, what is up with the clinical shit?
I am gearing up for my second trip next month. I posted this in the main Medellin thread but did not receive a response, so this is a repost.
Last year I stayed in Mansion for a couple of days then shifted to San Peter in Laureles for rest of my 10 day trip. My biggest complaint with San Peter is the noise from the bars in the area especially from Thursday to Sunday.
Otherwise, I think its a perfect location to hit up centro during the day and strip clubs plus other P4P areas in the evening. Although I really loved it for the price and location, I think the pricing has crept up in place and is close to Casacol pricing ($50).
As you guys may know Casacol has apartments all over MDE including Moderetto in Laureles. I did check it out last time but did not stay there. Any reviews on Casacol places? Can anyone compare San peter with Moderatto building. Also I have read here that Laureles hotels are not P4P friendly.
Any updated information on the Laureles area by seniors would be appreciated.
On my first trip about 2 years ago hotel suite comfort was girl friendly, as in the girl showed ID and then they let her up to the room. Then later that week I stayed in hotel TRYP and same process, show ID at front desk. In both cases registered for 2 persons and never paid a fee.
I have found Airbnb to be less expensive but not as nice as the professional places like casacol. I have not stayed in one but they seem much nicer. The lifeafar website also has some BRAND new places not far from the main park laurles. I am not trying to impress the girls with my apt more with the cash they get. Less paid on apt more on chicas.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2349533]I am gearing up for my second trip next month. I posted this in the main Medellin thread but did not receive a response, so this is a repost.
Last year I stayed in Mansion for a couple of days then shifted to San Peter in Laureles for rest of my 10 day trip. My biggest complaint with San Peter is the noise from the bars in the area especially from Thursday to Sunday.
Otherwise, I think its a perfect location to hit up centro during the day and strip clubs plus other P4P areas in the evening. Although I really loved it for the price and location, I think the pricing has crept up in place and is close to Casacol pricing ($50).
As you guys may know Casacol has apartments all over MDE including Moderetto in Laureles. I did check it out last time but did not stay there. Any reviews on Casacol places? Can anyone compare San peter with Moderatto building. Also I have read here that Laureles hotels are not P4P friendly.
Any updated information on the Laureles area by seniors would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2349614]On my first trip about 2 years ago hotel suite comfort was girl friendly, as in the girl showed ID and then they let her up to the room. Then later that week I stayed in hotel TRYP and same process, show ID at front desk. In both cases registered for 2 persons and never paid a fee.
I have found Airbnb to be less expensive but not as nice as the professional places like casacol. I have not stayed in one but they seem much nicer. The lifeafar website also has some BRAND new places not far from the main park laurles. I am not trying to impress the girls with my apt more with the cash they get. Less paid on apt more on chicas.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this has been helpful to me. I'm coming in November. I've booked my flight, but have been lurking on the board, waiting to pull the trigger on accommodations. I think I would like a hotel in Laureles over an apartment. I like maid service every day. But would like one that is chica friendly. Might try TRYP. I appreciate all the posts on this board that provide insight on good places to stay, thanks.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2346343]I've been working on my Spanish for the last few years (slowly) and I'm far from being an expert or anything close.
I've noticed that certain idiomatic phrases in English just don't work in Spanish. Just a few obvious examples: We "take" a shower, they "shower themselves". We "spend" time, they "pass" time.
So, here is the point of my rambling. If I want to inquire about "going down" or "eating pussy" I have a suspicion that these idiomatic expressions won't make any sense in Spanish if translated literally.
I've used this phrase: Podria besarte entre sus piernas? (Could I kiss you between your legs). It generally works as far as understanding goes.
So, I'm curious if any of my amigos here with more polished Spanish know the correct way to phrase the question without being too crude.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]I always use "Te puedo comer?" It means can I eat you. Sometimes I'll say to puedo comer el culo, meaning can I toss your salad. Crude and straight to the point. The chicas love it when you tell them what you want.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2349533]I am gearing up for my second trip next month. I posted this in the main Medellin thread but did not receive a response, so this is a repost.
Last year I stayed in Mansion for a couple of days then shifted to San Peter in Laureles for rest of my 10 day trip. My biggest complaint with San Peter is the noise from the bars in the area especially from Thursday to Sunday.
Otherwise, I think its a perfect location to hit up centro during the day and strip clubs plus other P4P areas in the evening. Although I really loved it for the price and location, I think the pricing has crept up in place and is close to Casacol pricing ($50).
As you guys may know Casacol has apartments all over MDE including Moderetto in Laureles. I did check it out last time but did not stay there. Any reviews on Casacol places? Can anyone compare San peter with Moderatto building. Also I have read here that Laureles hotels are not P4P friendly.
Any updated information on the Laureles area by seniors would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Moderetto looks nice. Do you know if they have A / see?
[QUOTE=Combo;2349675]Moderetto looks nice. Do you know if they have A / see?[/QUOTE]No air conditioning but the apartment was well-ventilated. If you a night crawler and like to sleep late into the morning, there are some issues with noise from the church bells and the fact it is in the flight path of the airport. Taxi drivers have a hard time finding it which was one reason why I started meeting chicas at short-time hotels. I will probably stay there again.
[QUOTE=Uthred;2349672]I always use "Te puedo comer?" It means can I eat you. Sometimes I'll say to puedo comer el culo, meaning can I toss your salad. Crude and straight to the point. The chicas love it when you tell them what you want.[/QUOTE]I plan on asking every attractive girl I see in Colombia if I can comer their culito. Which women responded the best? Street Hoes, regular girls, casa-putas?
[QUOTE=Combo;2349675]Moderetto looks nice. Do you know if they have A / see?[/QUOTE]Depends on the unit. Some have AC some don't. You can request for one with AC though.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2349614]On my first trip about 2 years ago hotel suite comfort was girl friendly, as in the girl showed ID and then they let her up to the room. Then later that week I stayed in hotel TRYP and same process, show ID at front desk. In both cases registered for 2 persons and never paid a fee.
I have found Airbnb to be less expensive but not as nice as the professional places like casacol. I have not stayed in one but they seem much nicer. The lifeafar website also has some BRAND new places not far from the main park laurles. I am not trying to impress the girls with my apt more with the cash they get. Less paid on apt more on chicas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insight. This is valuable. Casacol has several other new units, some in buildings near Centro. I wish someone would try and post a review.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2349713]No air conditioning but the apartment was well-ventilated. If you a night crawler and like to sleep late into the morning, there are some issues with noise from the church bells and the fact it is in the flight path of the airport. Taxi drivers have a hard time finding it which was one reason why I started meeting chicas at short-time hotels. I will probably stay there again.[/QUOTE]That is a nice advantage with the San Peter Suites. FB chicas know the exact place. One time I did not even share the address and the girl was waiting in the bar downstairs in half hour.
[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2349936]I plan on asking every attractive girl I see in Colombia if I can comer their culito. Which women responded the best? Street Hoes, regular girls, casa-putas?[/QUOTE]Well, that should lead to some interesting experiences. If you have any allergies or medical issues you should probably print them out on a card, in Spanish and carry it with you. That will help the medical personnel.
[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2349936]I plan on asking every attractive girl I see in Colombia if I can comer their culito. Which women responded the best? Street Hoes, regular girls, casa-putas?[/QUOTE]Do guys like this really exist?
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2350135]That is a nice advantage with the San Peter Suites. FB chicas know the exact place. One time I did not even share the address and the girl was waiting in the bar downstairs in half hour.[/QUOTE]I also found out that many girls do not have data on their phone so when they are traveling you cannot communicate using Whatsapp. For me this is a problem because I can't speak Spanish. I need to use the translator. Sometimes they don't have money for the taxi so they need to find you before they can leave the car. It can be difficult to maintain stealth.
What is the price per pill in Medellin?
Also known as the Plan be pill.
Hey, anybody down to grab coffee or a drink sometime? I'm in Medellin for the month, enjoy fase dos and similar clubs a lot.
I am currently in Medellin and moving from one hotel to another. Today I gave the housekeeper who had been cleaning my room a 50 mil peso tip. Her reaction was priceless. She was so overwhelmed with gratitude and hugged me profusely. I was surprised by her reaction as when she would come to clean my room she would be so quiet and the only words that would come from her mouth were 'buenos dias' on arrival and 'hasta luego' on leaving.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2371875]I am currently in Medellin and moving from one hotel to another. Today I gave the housekeeper who had been cleaning my room a 50 mil peso tip. Her reaction was priceless. She was so overwhelmed with gratitude and hugged me profusely. I was surprised by her reaction as when she would come to clean my room she would be so quiet and the only words that would come from her mouth were 'buenos dias' on arrival and 'hasta luego' on leaving.[/QUOTE]I appreciate good hearted people, right on Sr. Turgid.
Hello,
I'll be heading to Medellin for the first time this November. I have a few questions if anyone has the time to respond:
I believe I read somewhere the tap water is good. No need for bottled water. I drank the tap water in San Jose Costa Rica and had no trouble. Same in Medellin?
I was thinking about a day trip to Guatape. Is is easy to take a bus? Is that the best way to go? Can it all be done in a day trip without staying overnight?
I see a couple of golf courses there. Look like private clubs. I've emailed them to ask about playing, but haven't heard back. Anybody know anything about the possibility of playing golf in Medellin? Should I just leave my clubs at home? Thanks!
Facebook.
I've never created a facebook profile in my life, because I really don't want to be on it. But I tried to create one to meet up with girls on my upcoming trip. I used an alias name, but once I took the first steps to create my profile, my page was populated with all my family and co-workers suggesting them as friend requests. That freaked me out a little. Do you think it figured all that out just based on my phone number I gave them? I guess I should have gotten a burner phone first? What I'm really trying to avoid is for people who know me to see an alias profile with my picture and get a suggested friend request. Do you think Facebook would prompt my friends and family with friend requests of my fake profile? If Facebook is prompting me with their profiles, would it also prompt them with mine? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2373041]Hello,
I'll be heading to Medellin for the first time this November. I have a few questions if anyone has the time to respond:
I believe I read somewhere the tap water is good. No need for bottled water. I drank the tap water in San Jose Costa Rica and had no trouble. Same in Medellin?
I was thinking about a day trip to Guatape. Is is easy to take a bus? Is that the best way to go? Can it all be done in a day trip without staying overnight?
I see a couple of golf courses there. Look like private clubs. I've emailed them to ask about playing, but haven't heard back. Anybody know anything about the possibility of playing golf in Medellin? Should I just leave my clubs at home? Thanks![/QUOTE]The tap water is safe to drink.
You can easily do Guatape in a day. The bus is easy and more relaxing than with most private drivers. If you use the bus, when you get to Gautape, buy your return ticket so you are assured of having a seat.
I don't know anything about the golf courses.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2373041]I was thinking about a day trip to Guatape. Is is easy to take a bus? Is that the best way to go? Can it all be done in a day trip without staying overnight?[/QUOTE]Last year I did a day trip to Guatape by helicopter and it was completely worth it!
I think it might have been some sort of special, as they had specific dates listed on their site, and I found it on a Friday and booked it for the coming Sunday.
I believe the special was kind of like a Uber pool or something, meaning they would combine reservations to fill up the helicopter max 5 or 6 people. I was solo.
Lucky me got the first flight out to Guatape, maybe 10 am, and it was just me and the pilot and it was amazing. Coming back at maybe 4 pm was me and another couple. And they do a little tour of sorts and point out a bunch of cool ahot while flying over Medellin.
I recall costs me like $250 usd, and well spent included lunch and access to hotel pool area with great views.
Name if the company was helitours Colombia. Check out their website if they still doing that kind of trip. My first time on helicopter! I got the idea from a chica who had some fancy sugar daddy that took her.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2373057]What I'm really trying to avoid is for people who know me to see an alias profile with my picture and get a suggested friend request.[/QUOTE]Ahem! (1). Don't put your real picture on your fake profile. C'Mon. Man.
(2). Don't put your real city, your real birthday or your real phone number either. Keep reminding yourself. This is my fake profile.
(3). Having started off like you have. Best to kill this profile and start another from scratch without putting any of your real information.
You may have given permission for Facebook to read all your contacts on your phone and use that to suggest people you already know (based on Facebook already having their phone numbers associated to Facebook profiles).
At this point delete your real photo from the fake profile as Facebook may indeed be suggesting your fake profile to your real life contacts.
[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2374933]You may have given permission for Facebook to read all your contacts on your phone and use that to suggest people you already know (based on Facebook already having their phone numbers associated to Facebook profiles).
At this point delete your real photo from the fake profile as Facebook may indeed be suggesting your fake profile to your real life contacts.[/QUOTE]Thanks to everyone for all the feedback to all of my questions. It's crazy to think in the time it takes to make one click of the mouse, Facebook instantly matches me with every contact in my phone and any other person in the world who has my phone number in their contacts! I deleted the account and removed any pictures. Facebook still says it's 30 days to delete an account. This is partly why I never wanted to sign up with them in the first place. Leaning towards only going after casa girls for my trip. Still, I think I should have plenty to keep me satisfied.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2375279]Thanks to everyone for all the feedback to all of my questions. It's crazy to think in the time it takes to make one click of the mouse, Facebook instantly matches me with every contact in my phone and any other person in the world who has my phone number in their contacts! I deleted the account and removed any pictures. Facebook still says it's 30 days to delete an account. This is partly why I never wanted to sign up with them in the first place. Leaning towards only going after casa girls for my trip. Still, I think I should have plenty to keep me satisfied.[/QUOTE]You can use a burner number to create a fake profile. For 2 months, it will cost you around $11. [URL]https://www.burnerapp.com/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Villainy;2373130]Ahem! (1). Don't put your real picture on your fake profile. C'Mon. Man.
(2). Don't put your real city, your real birthday or your real phone number either. Keep reminding yourself. This is my fake profile.
(3). Having started off like you have. Best to kill this profile and start another from scratch without putting any of your real information.[/QUOTE]I messed up when I tried creating a fake profile and it didn't take the 48 hours to shut mine down. I gave myself a whole fake biography, fake city, fake birth place, fake job, fake colleges, but used my photo!
Apologies because this question probably comes up often, but how safe would Medellin be for a solo Asian traveler that speaks no Spanish? I have read the common suggestions of walking with confidence, avoid taking your phone out in public, avoid El Centro at night, be aware of your surroundings, etc. That being said, it seems like gringos and black individuals could sometimes pass as native Colombians easier than say a pale, skinny Southeast Asian male. I was thinking I would stay in El Poblado and work off of escorts and / or chicas off of Facebook and Tinder, with checking out Parque Lleras at night for the SG action as this seems like the suggested safest plan for newbies. Am I being overly paranoid?
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2378271]Apologies because this question probably comes up often, but how safe would Medellin be for a solo Asian traveler that speaks no Spanish? I have read the common suggestions of walking with confidence, avoid taking your phone out in public, avoid El Centro at night, be aware of your surroundings, etc. That being said, it seems like gringos and black individuals could sometimes pass as native Colombians easier than say a pale, skinny Southeast Asian male. I was thinking I would stay in El Poblado and work off of escorts and / or chicas off of Facebook and Tinder, with checking out Parque Lleras at night for the SG action as this seems like the suggested safest plan for newbies. Am I being overly paranoid?[/QUOTE]Yes. You're being overly paranoid.
First, nobody passes for native Colombian, except for native Colombians. Take a German and stick him in Des Moines, Iowa. Nobody is going to think he's a native.
The suggested, safest option for newbies is probably to stay at the Mansion and let some of the regulars there take you under their wing. Other than a short walk to eat, you won't have to venture out anywhere, but if you do, there will be people who will go with you.
Currently, the biggest risk might be Tinder. Some groups have been using Tinder to target, drug and rob visitors. At least one of those targeted died.
Sign circulating around the neighborhoods in Medellin.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2378397]Yes. You're being overly paranoid.
First, nobody passes for native Colombian, except for native Colombians. Take a German and stick him in Des Moines, Iowa. Nobody is going to think he's a native.
The suggested, safest option for newbies is probably to stay at the Mansion and let some of the regulars there take you under their wing. Other than a short walk to eat, you won't have to venture out anywhere, but if you do, there will be people who will go with you.
Currently, the biggest risk might be Tinder. Some groups have been using Tinder to target, drug and rob visitors. At least one of those targeted died.[/QUOTE]Fair point about not passing as a native. I was more or less just worried that being a solo Asian traveler that's a bit diminutive and unimposing may present an appealing target for robbers or other criminals. Would you mind sharing what prices I could expect at the Mansion for ST chicas? Any other casa suggestions that would suit a newbie to Medellin that speaks no Spanish? Do prepagos off of sites have a reputation (positive or negative)?
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2378504]Fair point about not passing as a native. I was more or less just worried that being a solo Asian traveler that's a bit diminutive and unimposing may present an appealing target for robbers or other criminals. Would you mind sharing what prices I could expect at the Mansion for ST chicas? Any other casa suggestions that would suit a newbie to Medellin that speaks no Spanish? Do prepagos off of sites have a reputation (positive or negative)?[/QUOTE]I believe most of the girls at the Mansion ask for 200 k for an hour. Some can be talked down to 150 k. Just to be clear, the Mansion isn't a casa. It's a hotel. There are girls who hang out at the pool during the day and in the bar at night.
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2378504]Fair point about not passing as a native. I was more or less just worried that being a solo Asian traveler that's a bit diminutive and unimposing may present an appealing target for robbers or other criminals. Would you mind sharing what prices I could expect at the Mansion for ST chicas? Any other casa suggestions that would suit a newbie to Medellin that speaks no Spanish? Do prepagos off of sites have a reputation (positive or negative)?[/QUOTE]My Chigga, I am on your same boat. Relax, we stick out no matter what but you can always do the following:
1. Hire a guide. They act like pimps most of the time too with their own pool of hoes.
2. Take Ubers or find a recommended car service on social media.
3. Its not hard to write down a few things in Spanish and learn to say them. Things like "yo quiero chicas" (joe-key-ro-chi-cas) at the casa I'd imagine leads to a parade of hoes right there.
4. Check out Catador Colombia forums for local online prepago reviews. Turn the google translate on on your Chrome browser.
5. From the above site, I have learned that Mansion hoes are basically the Facebook hoes, also same price range as online prepagos 100 Mil and Above experiences, Median going for 150-200 Mil, 45-60 USD. The price of a toothless BJ in the Big-Apple.
6. As far as being Asian, I've been told that they will call us Chinos but not mean anything malicious, there are just too few of us there to have formed any stereotypes, just that they know who Jackie Chan is. I wouldn't walk around too afraid and paranoid, that's why a bilingual guide is worth a 100 hoes in this situation. Can also double as a security guide of sorts. Better to get robbed with someone right?
7. If this is your first rodeo, I suggest moving in the shadows.
[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2379045]My Chigga, I am on your same boat. Relax, we stick out no matter what but you can always do the following:
1. Hire a guide. They act like pimps most of the time too with their own pool of hoes.
2. Take Ubers or find a recommended car service on social media.
3. Its not hard to write down a few things in Spanish and learn to say them. Things like "yo quiero chicas" (joe-key-ro-chi-cas) at the casa I'd imagine leads to a parade of hoes right there.
4. Check out Catador Colombia forums for local online prepago reviews. Turn the google translate on on your Chrome browser.
5. From the above site, I have learned that Mansion hoes are basically the Facebook hoes, also same price range as online prepagos 100 Mil and Above experiences, Median going for 150-200 Mil, 45-60 USD. The price of a toothless BJ in the Big-Apple.
6. As far as being Asian, I've been told that they will call us Chinos but not mean anything malicious, there are just too few of us there to have formed any stereotypes, just that they know who Jackie Chan is. I wouldn't walk around too afraid and paranoid, that's why a bilingual guide is worth a 100 hoes in this situation. Can also double as a security guide of sorts. Better to get robbed with someone right?
7. If this is your first rodeo, I suggest moving in the shadows.[/QUOTE]Another Asian brother? I thought I was the only one. Good advice on the guide and the Catador site is cash. Thanks, my bro.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2378859]I believe most of the girls at the Mansion ask for 200 k for an hour. Some can be talked down to 150 k. Just to be clear, the Mansion isn't a casa. It's a hotel. There are girls who hang out at the pool during the day and in the bar at night.[/QUOTE]Like said current Mansion price is 200 k, includes "taxi", although some may take 150. Heard currently no Chicas at pool during day Unless invited in by guest due to recent crackdown of some kind. Plenty at night in the downstairs bar. Only hotel guests allowed. Occasionally they will let outsider in for a fee.
I have noticed recently that the US stock market has an inverse effect on the dollar / COP exchange rate. Last week, when the stock market was in freefall, the exchange rate was more than 3500 to $1 for a few hours. This week, when the market is going up, the exchange rate is going down. I think the dollar should be stronger when the market is up. Any economics experts out there care to enlighten me?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2380414]I have noticed recently that the US stock market has an inverse effect on the dollar / COP exchange rate. Last week, when the stock market was in freefall, the exchange rate was more than 3500 to $1 for a few hours. This week, when the market is going up, the exchange rate is going down. I think the dollar should be stronger when the market is up. Any economics experts out there care to enlighten me?[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with nothing. Only coincidence, not correlation.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2380414]I have noticed recently that the US stock market has an inverse effect on the dollar / COP exchange rate. Last week, when the stock market was in freefall, the exchange rate was more than 3500 to $1 for a few hours. This week, when the market is going up, the exchange rate is going down. I think the dollar should be stronger when the market is up. Any economics experts out there care to enlighten me?[/QUOTE]Prob. More to do with China trade issues than US stock market, though the latter would also be affected by China trade to some extent. If China trade goes south then the peso goes with the other emerging markets lower. Arguably due to more China trade, Colombian peso affected more. The other issue driving peso to keep an eye on is oil price.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2380414]I have noticed recently that the US stock market has an inverse effect on the dollar / COP exchange rate. Last week, when the stock market was in freefall, the exchange rate was more than 3500 to $1 for a few hours. This week, when the market is going up, the exchange rate is going down. I think the dollar should be stronger when the market is up. Any economics experts out there care to enlighten me?[/QUOTE]When there's bad news, especially bad news worldwide, people buy dollars (as well as Swiss franc and Japanese Yen). So it's common to have a sell-off in stocks and a strengthening in the USD (against most currencies) on the same day.
I've traded FX and interest rates most of my life, though I'm still not sure I'd call myself an expert!
BTW -- USD, SF, and JPY are the "safe-haven" currencies.
[QUOTE=Combo;2380553]When there's bad news, especially bad news worldwide, people buy dollars (as well as Swiss franc and Japanese Yen). So it's common to have a sell-off in stocks and a strengthening in the USD (against most currencies) on the same day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, Combo. That makes sense.
I found this to be damm funny to be not sharing here with punters.
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[QUOTE=MushElvii;2385813]I found this to be damm funny to be not sharing here with punters.
[URL]http://noticias.chistescol.com/agente-que-se-infiltro-como-travesti-abandono-la-policia-porque-ganaba-mas-plata-de-travesti/?fbclid=IwAR3-yOnK-xlBeCxgdbsv358ipq0vOHtzP-Tl5yyxufFxh_X95f-1zd-yLHM[/URL][/QUOTE]A lot of those jokers are only gay for pay.
I'm less than a week away from coming to Medellin for the first time. This might sound like a stupid question but, I was told exchanging money in the airport is a ripoff. There is an ATM right next to my hotel, and I plan to use my bank card in the ATMs for the best rate. My question is how do I pay for my taxi from the airport? Do they take credit cards? And if I remember correctly, I think I read it is not customary to tip taxi drivers in Colombia. Is that right? What about tipping in restaurants now that I think about it? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2388077]I'm less than a week away from coming to Medellin for the first time. This might sound like a stupid question but, I was told exchanging money in the airport is a ripoff. There is an ATM right next to my hotel, and I plan to use my bank card in the ATMs for the best rate. My question is how do I pay for my taxi from the airport? Do they take credit cards? And if I remember correctly, I think I read it is not customary to tip taxi drivers in Colombia. Is that right? What about tipping in restaurants now that I think about it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Use the ATM in the airport and get that tipping stuff out of your head.
Here are some of my chit chat thoughts from my recent trip. A lot of this will sound obvious to the regulars, but this is geared more for newbies since I was just a newbie myself.
- Learn spanish. If you are planning to come to Medellin. I would plan the trip at least 6 months from now and spend the time learning spanish if you don't know any. It's also a good investment in time and effort if you ever plan to go to other spanish-speaking counties in the future. I have only basic spanish, but it really helped. I can only imagine how difficult it would be here to have no spanish.
- ATMs. My card didn't work at Banco de Bogota ATMs, but it worked at others. If your transaction doesn't go through, don't panic. Try some other banks. Also, I found that the transactions went through easier if I just pressed one of the pre-selected amounts. When I tried to do a custom amount, it would often not go through. Although I wanted to take out more money at a time, the most I could take out at once was 780,000. Most ATMs the limit was 600,000.
- Know the precise location if you are going to visit a casa. They do not have signs out front. You need to know ahead of time the exact building you are going to. If you think you can just go the the approximate location and find it by walking around, you are mistaken.
- Credit cards. At some places they will try to charge you in US dollars on the credit card machine, when they do this they use a slightly worse rate than the going rate. This actually only amounts to pennies when paying for a meal at a restaurant, so no big deal. But at my hotel, when paying for 9 nights I saved some decent money by having him re-do the transaction in pesos instead of dollars.
- Cabs. Cabs are super cheap and plentiful all over town. I was surprised how many cab drivers didn't really know where they were going though. I had to pull up directions on my phone and help them get there quite a few times. The subway is cheap, and I found it to be a fun way to kind of tour the city and interact with the people. But for practical purposes as far as getting anywhere, I would just cab or uber. I just rode the subway and metro cable as a tourist thing to do.
Just curious but what is with the numerous Colombian escorts with the large tattoo of a skull on their thigh?
I have no idea about the skull. But speaking of tattoos has anyone on here gotten a tattoo in Medellin? I am wondering who some of the best artists in the area are and pricing.
I bought my pharmacy meds in Poblado and was wondering if the pharmacies overcharge since they know the tourists are abundant in the area. Everything from Ibuprofen to Pepto Bismol was overpriced. I also bought some generic Cialis and some Colombian Modafinil. I can say that the Modafinil was either fake or seriously under dosed because I did not feel a thing from it. I cannot recall the price on them but the name on the box was Vigia 200 MG. I only bought them because when I asked for Adderall they said that in Colombia they don't sell that kind of stuff. The generic Cialis seemed to work. I usually bring along my OTC drugs with me but on this trip I ran out! Where do you seasoned vets buy your meds in Medellin? I usually don't care if prices are a little higher than normal but as an example I was sold 600 MG tabs of Ibuprofen at about 2 k a piece. Outrageous but I was desperate and did not care at the time.
[QUOTE=GaiusMarius;2396243]I bought my pharmacy meds in Poblado and was wondering if the pharmacies overcharge since they know the tourists are abundant in the area. Everything from Ibuprofen to Pepto Bismol was overpriced. I also bought some generic Cialis and some Colombian Modafinil. I can say that the Modafinil was either fake or seriously under dosed because I did not feel a thing from it. I cannot recall the price on them but the name on the box was Vigia 200 MG. I only bought them because when I asked for Adderall they said that in Colombia they don't sell that kind of stuff. The generic Cialis seemed to work. I usually bring along my OTC drugs with me but on this trip I ran out! Where do you seasoned vets buy your meds in Medellin? I usually don't care if prices are a little higher than normal but as an example I was sold 600 MG tabs of Ibuprofen at about 2 k a piece. Outrageous but I was desperate and did not care at the time.[/QUOTE]Pharmacy prices vary widely from store to store. The Aleman pharmacies always seemed to be more expensive. Last time I bought ibuprofen I think I paid 8 k for 10,800 MG. 4 packs of 50 MG sildenafil run around 8 k as well.
Get away from Parque Lleras and you should find better prices.
I really like them and the local teams shirts like AN (Atltico Nacional) will gets you lots of thumbs up in bars. Although I did have some awkward moments in Barra Ejecutiva with some drunk guys asking me who my fav player was. I rolled the dice and said "Juan". LOL.
Anywho I have found the cheapest place to buy them last time I was in town was a street vendor on the corner of Calle 50 and Car 49 (Junin) for 10 k.
I did have more of them but US GF's keep taking them. LOL.
The 2 on the left though I got in Costa Rica, Deportivo Saprissa and LDA (Liga Deportiva Alajuelense). 2 of my favs when I was growing up in CR as a kid.
[QUOTE=Nyclooking;2661322]Was at Patrick's Irish Pub recently and hit it off with one of the waitresses. She said she's free tomorrow but wasn't sure if she was saying that she's available or if she's just telling me that. Has anyone gone out / gone for GFE with the waitresses at the Pub or other establishments? TIA.[/QUOTE]I've gone out with waitresses from other places, not Patrick's. If she tells you she's free, she's interested in spending time with you. That could mean she wants you to take her shopping, or it could mean she wants to get nasty with you, most likely for money.
Just ask her "Que quieres hacer conmigo?" What do you want to do with me? You'll get an answer that indicates her interest.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661423]Just ask her "Que quieres hacer conmigo?" What do you want to do with me? You'll get an answer that indicates her interest.[/QUOTE]Designed specifically for Medellin. I have not done enough field testing to say "it works" but my Gestalt is that it does. I also designed it for when you only have seconds to spare. Normally I get a response of amusement, and yes, I agree, include your Whassap number.
"Te gustara ser mi novia por dos horas?
Or, "Would you like to be my girlfriend for two hours?" You can use whatever number for the hours that fits the situation. I use it anywhere, anytime.
If they say yes, you will get laid. Delivery is key. If you look or sound like a lecherous serial axe murderer, then don't expect results, jajja. I've never had anyone get pissed or upset but of course I've had some rejections. If you have fear of rejection, then don't try it. When she says yes, have a specific plan in mind for the follow up right then and there. Seize the moment. Fuck her in the next 30 minutes or that night at the latest before you lose momentum.
I should not share this pearl because if it gets too widely used I believe it will lose effectiveness. However, I love you guys and I will simply think of a new and better line. Jajajajjaa, let's Keep On Keepin' On, together.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2663594]"400 mil pesos? Qué rico amor, te entiendo. Pero siempre pago 200 Mill por un rato. Quizás encuentro te un otro día."[/QUOTE]"Quizas encuentro te un otro día"
You want 'quizás te encuentro' and you don't use un with otro; it's included. Otro means both 'other' and 'another. ' Therefore 'un otro' and 'una otra' would be redundant.
The current stats are nothing than more markers for a dwindling disease, at best. Some regions and countries are getting it right by claiming the epidemic is over and ignoring the data. Future state depends mainly on the appearance of any new variants, but those who are unvaccinated will be playing catch up and may encounter legal problems from trying to needlessly beat the system. Every new vaccine has a predictable percentage of anti-vaxers, and their arguments are just as predictable, uninformed, and pedestrian, every time.
This was the Purrfekt Storm and the worst managed vaccine program in history partly because of some novel behaviors in the virus, but mainly because this was the first worldwide epidemic since the invention of the Internet. Information overload, unprepared, Classic GIGO, Garbage In, Garbage Out, for results.
If a different virus appear on the horizon, with a significantly higher attack and mortality rate, and we don't use lessons learned from this giant Klusterfuk, it will be the end of mankind. Add it to the list for the Doomsayers worried about Super Volcano, Deep Space Gamma Ray burst, Comet Impact, Nuclear Holocaust, Zombie Apocalypse, and Global Warming.
I have been predicting for 30 years that if the end of mankind comes, it will be from infectious disease. Consider Covid a "warning shots across the bow" from the Cosmic Blueberry Muffin or whatever it is you turn to in you bleakest moments.
Now you may to your Piranha Pool, jeje.
First of all, not all drugs are the same. Heroin is not penicillin. Oxygen is a drug. Water will kill you if you drink too much from hyponatremia, among other electrolyte imbalances. Room air, or the air you normally breathe is only 21% oxygen. Most of what you respire is nitrogen. 100% oxygen is toxic due to the damage done by the caustic and abrasive singlet oxygen free radicals.
BTW, this is all off the top of my head, maybe you can find errors if you are so inclined, jeje.
We are at a tipping point in the history of pharmaceutical drugs right now. Elon Musk sees it when he toys with his detractors about his marijuana use. The pharmaceutical companies are poised. Cannabis clinics flourish and now there are IV ketamine clinics.
Heroin is not alcohol, cigarettes are not cannabis, crack is not methamphetamine.
Yet again, I am presenting from a viewpoint of education, background, personal and professional experience. But I don't like to talk about intelligence or credentials unless it's a professional setting (someone's getting paid for their advice) because I believe concepts should stand on their own.
Intelligence is the most overrated human characteristic of all time.
There is a huge difference between addiction and dependence and recreational use. I go pretty soft on the people who lump all recreational drugs as "bad and evil" because usually they have intense negative personal experiences with family members. Daddy hit mommy after drinking. Sister stole from everyone to support her habit. Little Johnny had to watch his mom turn tricks to get money for dope. You get the idea. That is some pretty heavy duty environmental influence leading to bias.
Speaking of bias, guess what the greatest bias and prejudice of all time is?
Reality bias. Reality is for people who can't handle their drugs, jajajajjaaja.
Ostee Out, more to come.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2663669]"Quizas encuentro te un otro da"...[/QUOTE]Curious to know whether one can use talvez instead of quizas.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2663786]Curious to know whether one can use talvez instead of quizas.[/QUOTE]Yes. Those two words are synonyms.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2663789]Yes. Those two words are synonyms.[/QUOTE]You ain't kidding when you said you studied the language. Strong work.
What did you do with your spare time, jeje?
Dear Moderator,
May I respectfully and humbly request the attempts at Spanish lessons be moved to its own thread or combined with the stupid shit thread? It's off topic and, incidentally, of inconsistent accuracy. Please and thank you.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2663786]Curious to know whether one can use talvez instead of quizas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2663764]First of all, not all drugs are the same. Heroin is not penicillin. Oxygen is a drug. Water will kill you if you drink too much from hyponatremia, among other electrolyte imbalances. Room air, or the air you normally breathe is only 21% oxygen. Most of what you respire is nitrogen. 100% oxygen is toxic due to the damage done by the caustic and abrasive singlet oxygen free radicals.
BTW, this is all off the top of my head, maybe you can find errors if you are so inclined, jeje.
We are at a tipping point in the history of pharmaceutical drugs right now. Elon Musk sees it when he toys with his detractors about his marijuana use. The pharmaceutical companies are poised. Cannabis clinics flourish and now there are IV ketamine clinics.
Heroin is not alcohol, cigarettes are not cannabis, crack is not methamphetamine.
Yet again, I am presenting from a viewpoint of education, background, personal and professional experience. But I don't like to talk about intelligence or credentials unless it's a professional setting (someone's getting paid for their advice) because I believe concepts should stand on their own.
Intelligence is the most overrated human characteristic of all time..[/QUOTE]I created an account just to say how much I agree with this post. Bravo.
[QUOTE=ChuckRanger;2664094]I created an account just to say how much I agree with this post. Bravo.[/QUOTE]But that's where it ended up, jaja.
The Tussi is not like any other drug on the market and represents a new wave of drugs that will soon be marketed by Big Pharma to "optimize and enhance" your life even if there is nothing really "wrong" with you to begin with.
Guys,
If you don't want to use a taxi to get from the airport to Medellin city centre, then there are great little buses that run every 15 minutes.
- Come out of the airport and there will be taxi touts offering you their services. Just say "No gracias" and continue walking to the front of the taxi queue and you will see at least a couple of small buses waiting.
- There will be a guy working for the bus company and just ask him if the bus goes to Medellin ("centro de Medellin?" or "San Diego centro commercial?
- Give him your luggage and he will give you a green slip as receipt and store your suitcase in the boot. Take your valuables with you in the bus.
- Just take a seat. You pay the fare (13 K) when you leave the bus. Have cash ready, doesn't need to be the exact amount as the driver has change.
- The journey is about 30 minutes and the buses are very comfortable and modern.
- You will be dropped off at the San Diego shopping mall.
- From here, there is a queue of yellow cabs waiting, and just jump into one and head to wherever your hotel is. I went to a hotel 2 miles away at calle 61 and the fare was just 9 K in the taxi.
The driver was a nice old man who actually waited for me till I got inside the hotel (it is not the best area) to make sure I was safe.
It was all pretty painless actually. I don't feel safe using airport taxis, especially in countries like this one, and I would recommend the bus option.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2664156]But that's where it ended up, jaja.
The Tussi is not like any other drug on the market and represents a new wave of drugs that will soon be marketed by Big Pharma to "optimize and enhance" your life even if there is nothing really "wrong" with you to begin with.[/QUOTE]Where did you get your information from? About 50 years ago there was a drug called MDA that was basically the original Tussi or Molly type drug. It has never become legal. So, Tussi is not really New Wave and your prediction that it will become legal is baseless unless you have some sort of proof like you require from others.
[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2677470]Where did you get your information from? About 50 years ago there was a drug called MDA that was basically the original Tussi or Molly type drug. It has never become legal. So, Tussi is not really New Wave and your prediction that it will become legal is baseless unless you have some sort of proof like you require from others.[/QUOTE]MDMA is the generic chemical name for Ecstasy. That was not the original Tussy drug. The original Tussy drug is nowhere to be found and come out of a scientific paper published in the early 1900's, I am not going to look it up but I have seen it. What the sell now is the cartel's attempt to reproduce the original.
The only thing I can recall predicting would become legal is "enhancement" drugs that will be used to optimize mental status and not treat preexisting disease.
And I was not aware of requiring proof. Most of the things we do or believe can never be proved. Einstein said it best, "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts".
Now, I will return to the reason we are all here, to fuck the beautiful girl who just walked thru my open door. Ostee Out.
[QUOTE=FudiMaar;2677435]Guys,
If you don't want to use a taxi to get from the airport to Medellin city centre, then there are great little buses that run every 15 minutes.
- Come out of the airport and there will be taxi touts offering you their services. Just say "No gracias" and continue walking to the front of the taxi queue and you will see at least a couple of small buses waiting.
- There will be a guy working for the bus company and just ask him if the bus goes to Medellin ("centro de Medellin?" or "San Diego centro commercial?
- Give him your luggage and he will give you a green slip as receipt and store your suitcase in the boot. Take your valuables with you in the bus.
- Just take a seat. You pay the fare (13 K) when you leave the bus. Have cash ready, doesn't need to be the exact amount as the driver has change.
- The journey is about 30 minutes and the buses are very comfortable and modern..[/QUOTE]How late do the buses run? And would there be taxis at the mall there at say 9 pm or later?
[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2677751]How late do the buses run? And would there be taxis at the mall there at say 9 pm or later?[/QUOTE]I believe the last bus leaves the airport at 10 or 11 pm. There should be taxis waiting. If not, there is a casino just around the corner where you should be able to get a taxi.
The bus stop is on Avenida Las Palmas just before it ends at Avenida Poblado. You can cut through the corner of the mall to get to Avenida Poblado. Depending on how much luggage you have and where you're staying you can cross Avenida Poblado and catch a southbound bus and get off at Parque Poblado. Cost is about 2500 COP.
[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2677751]How late do the buses run? And would there be taxis at the mall there at say 9 pm or later?[/QUOTE]I believe the buses run from the airport into the wee hours of the morning. The name of the bus company is Combuses S.A. The buses are white with green lettering and stripes on the sides. Word AEROPUERTO will be across the top of the windshield. I arrived in December late at night (little after 11 pm when I got out of the airport), and the buses were still running. Information on the Internet says they run from the airport 24 hours a day, but I wouldn't depend on that. The fare is 13,000 COP.
When you are dropped off near the San Diego mall, there will be a group of young ladies there to help you with your luggage and hail a taxi for you. You have to walk across a little traffic island to the street where the taxi will pick you up. Normally, I arrive at San Diego between 6 and 6:30 pm. Most of the time there aren't any, or only two or three, taxis waiting. No worries, the ladies will get a taxi for you. It is safe where you are dropped off.
If your destination is Poblado or Laureles, get off at San Diego. Most of the people on the bus will get off there, so just follow the crowd.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2664156]But that's where it ended up, jaja.
The Tussi is not like any other drug on the market and represents a new wave of drugs that will soon be marketed by Big Pharma to "optimize and enhance" your life even if there is nothing really "wrong" with you to begin with.[/QUOTE]Tussi (2 CB) has been around for decades (if I remember the inventor of MDMA made it to deal with the comedowns), but as you rightly say its 'new to the market' as previously it was only psychedelic nerds that did it. Although from what I remember reading (this could be wrong) Colombian 2 CB has no 2 CB in it and is mostly ket + other stuff like molly. Real 2 CB is pretty fun, non addictive and has no comedown.
[QUOTE=KindAn;2678085]Tussi (2 CB) has been around for decades (if I remember the inventor of MDMA made it to deal with the comedowns), but as you rightly say its 'new to the market' as previously it was only psychedelic nerds that did it. Although from what I remember reading (this could be wrong) Colombian 2 CB has no 2 CB in it and is mostly ket + other stuff like molly. Real 2 CB is pretty fun, non addictive and has no comedown.[/QUOTE]We vary a bit on the history and my source was a masters psychology Colombian student and competitive roller blade racer who selectively sold her wet holes on the side. She was also the single hottest chica I have ever seen on this planet except for Catgirl.
I would say the same thing for the good stuff they call Tussy now here, pretty fun, non addictive and has no comedown. There is stuff out there that could kill you adulterated with heroin or fentanyl but I haven't heard of any lately.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2677694]MDMA is the generic chemical name for Ecstasy. That was not the original Tussy drug. The original Tussy drug is nowhere to be found and come out of a scientific paper published in the early 1900's, I am not going to look it up but I have seen it. What the sell now is the cartel's attempt to reproduce the original.
The only thing I can recall predicting would become legal is "enhancement" drugs that will be used to optimize mental status and not treat preexisting disease.
And I was not aware of requiring proof. Most of the things we do or believe can never be proved. Einstein said it best, "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts".
Now, I will return to the reason we are all here, to fuck the beautiful girl who just walked thru my open door. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]If it feels good, do it. Tussi and pussi both feel good alone and together so let's leave it at that. Not worth wasting time on anything else unless it feels good too. Another guy just posted something interesting about Tussi worth reading. Have fun, stay safe.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2718010]Apparently a new high was hit yesterday topping out over 4400 COP to the USD and I withdrew 2,700,000 COP from a Scotia ATM, and maybe should of withdrawn more. When the new President was elected the exchange rate was like 3960. It would appear the exchange rate has changed over 11% in the three weeks since the election.
Does anyone know what is driving the devaluation of the Peso so much. I'm assuming having a leftist President has something to do with it, and I read an article that he had ran on a platform of cutting back on oil and gas, yet one of his spokespersons said they weren't going to do this. Gasoline is just over 9,000 COP per gallon here in Colombia as they sell it buy the gallon not the liter. At the way the exchange rate is going, gas here in Colombia will be like $ 2 USD a gallon, where as in the USA, it's double to triple that. The devaluation of the Peso it's great for foreigners, but not for the Colombians. I remember coming to Colombia when the exchange rate was under 2,000 COP. Even though there has been a dramatic price increases for everything here in Colombia, with the way the exchange rate has been going, it's never been cheaper.
People in the States sometimes ask me how expensive things are in Colombia, and I sent a few people photos from different food aisles from an EXITO with all the prices of things, one was from a bread counter and the other of fruits and vegetables. At the time I told them to just divide everything by 4,000 to get a sense of what things cost, and also told them that this was a higher end market and with the exception of the breads, all the fruits and vegetables could be bought for easily 1/2 to 1/4 from street vendors or other markets. Most people could not believe how in-expensive fruits and vegetables are, along with being so fresh.
The situation here with the exchange rate kind of reminds of how in-expensive things were in Argentina when I visited in February 2000 just before the Pandemic was declared. I was exchanging money on the blue market, and would buy things in the market, especially imported items, that were easily 1/2 what they would cost in the USA.
And as an example, it's cheaper here in Colombia to buy American candy like M&M peanuts than in the USA right now. But it still isn't cheaper to buy Haagen-Dazs ice cream yet, but maybe soon.[/QUOTE][URL]https://walletinvestor.com/forex-forecast/usd-cop-prediction[/URL]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2718140]Pure speculation on my part, but I expect it back in the 3900 range within 2 or 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Where's the best place to buy pesos if in the USA to get the best exchange rate?
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2718010]Does anyone know what is driving the devaluation of the Peso so much. [/QUOTE]I think it's more of a strong dollar than it is a weak peso. The euro is down to $1. 02. Rising US interest rates are for sure a factor.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2718164]I got the expected 4,369 (and change) today. I'm looking forward to Tuesday and pulling again at 4,420 (or close to it). Once a person learns how the XE rate and the Visa Exchange rate work you can really maximize your withdrawals.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you could explain how the XE and Visa Rates work. I just checked the Visa rate 4369 and the XE rate 4418, it's my understanding that if I went to an ATM I would get the Visa rate, yet the XE rate is higher. So when could I get the XE Rate. Is there a time delay. Or will I never get that rate because it's moving target, where as I have assumed the Visa rate is fixed for the day. So if this is correct, where does the XE Rate come in, is it a forecast perhaps, and the next day the Visa rate will catch up.
Maybe these sound like some pretty stupid questions for some, and perhaps you shed some light on what you have brought up.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2718250]I think it's more of a strong dollar than it is a weak peso. The euro is down to $1. 02. Rising US interest rates are for sure a factor.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about this. The Ukraine war is driving down the Euro and GBP. The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. Many other currencies are unchanged against the US dollar.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2718404]Finally, where I am sure some Users would agree with you, how large a chunk of the User population do you believe you speak for other than yourself? Keep in mind the Users who don't mind a view of a penis in action or even like it will be predisposed to not write or say anything due to selection bias. Do you believe your personal taste speaks for the "majority" of the users here or what is your guesstimate? 51%? 75%, 99% 10% 1%? Even if twenty guys post who agree with you, that still proves nothing. The heart and soul of this Website it the silent majority, not the frequent posters, and I believe I understand my audience from past experience.[/QUOTE]Too bad this website doesn't have a survey capability where users vote anomalously. My estimate is you would get less than 10% support.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2718235]Where's the best place to buy pesos if in the USA to get the best exchange rate?[/QUOTE]Absolutely flat ass nowhere and why on earth would you want to do that?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2718438]I'm not so sure about this. The Ukraine war is driving down the Euro and GBP. The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. Many other currencies are unchanged against the US dollar.[/QUOTE](The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. } Yes that is the main reason. People who control the rates are afraid of the new Pres being a communist. This was mentioned before the election that if this man wins the pesos would take a hit.
Funny first I used to divide by 2 then 3 then 4. Now maybe 5 will be the new division point in the near future.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2718532](The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. } Yes that is the main reason. People who control the rates are afraid of the new Pres being a communist. This was mentioned before the election that if this man wins the pesos would take a hit.
Funny first I used to divide by 2 then 3 then 4. Now maybe 5 will be the new division point in the near future.[/QUOTE]You think so, huh? You are aware that Colombia has a political system that in many ways is very similar to the US. The Legislature enacts laws just as they do in our political system.
[B]The Legislative branchs duty is to amend the constitution, make laws ,and exercise political control over the government and the administration. Congress is the body in charge of the legislative function and it is made up of the Senate and the House of Representatives. (Constitucin Poltica de Colombia. Art. 114. (1991)).[/B]
So, fear that a leftist President is going to create a Communist state is patently absurd. Petro has nothing close to major support in the Senate or the House of Representatives.
So, what caused the peso to devalue by almost 10% in the last 2 months (5-11 to 7-11) is tied to a plethora of causes. The Fed raising interest rates causes US Governments to trade at lower values and therefore higher rates (Interest Rates and Bond Prices are inversely related). Countries that held Colombian Governments are trading into more secure and higher earning US Governments. Colombia has also printed higher inflation than it has in many years, which is no doubt creating a rush to the world's reserve currency. Oil prices are wavering and oil is Colombia's main export.
There are probably 20 more factors that interact in how the Colombian currency trades vs. US currency. Petro's election is probably a minor factor.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2718532] People who control the rates are afraid of the new Pres being a communist. [/QUOTE]People who control the rates?? People who actively trade (currency traders) Colombian Pesos are not ignorant of how Colombia's political system works.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2718490]I know you directed your post to Villainy, but I will try to explain. Up until about a month ago, Visa changed their rate at midnight GMT. Now they change it at midnight local time. The XE rate is a mid-market rate, which is a the midpoint between the currency dealers' bid and ask rates. I don't know what time of day Visa gets that rate. Once Visa gets that mid-market rate, they will not change their rate at midnight of that day, but at midnight of the next day. That rate is fixed for 24 hours. So, the XE rate on Monday will be Visa's rate at midnight Tuesday until midnight Wednesday. Since there is no currency trading on the weekend, just X out those two days from the schedule. It is a fixed schedule. If the XE rate is going up, wait to use the ATM. If the XE rate goes down, you have the next day to get the rate before it went down at the ATM. I hope all that makes sense.[/QUOTE]I agree with what Fun wrote. But there is one nuance. Monday's rate is the same as it was on Saturday and Sunday.
So here is how you can visualize it.
M -- W. Monday's closing XE rate should be about what the Visa Exch Rate will be on Wednesday. Follow the pattern from there. The Visa Exch Rate is what you get at the ATMs.
Tu -- Th.
W -- F.
Th -- Sa Su M.
F -- Tu.
Sa & Su closed.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2718235]Where's the best place to buy pesos if in the USA to get the best exchange rate?[/QUOTE]At an ATM in Colombia.
Afew years ago Bank of America had a good rate for account holders. I have no idea of that's still the case.
Unless you plan on spending a lot of time in Colombia there's no advantage to buying pesos in the USA. You'll only save a few dollars.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2718235]Where's the best place to buy pesos if in the USA to get the best exchange rate?[/QUOTE]COP isn't a widely accepted currency outside of Colombia. My Colombian friends would buy USD before they travel abroad, and once they arrive, they will exchange USD to whatever local currency they need. This even include their neihboring country Peru. If you are not near Miami or other big cities with large COL population, your luck to get COP is low.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2718140]Pure speculation on my part, but I expect it back in the 3900 range within 2 or 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Could happen and would be my luck as that's the next time I'll visit jajaja!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2718554]You think so, huh? You are aware that Colombia has a political system that in many ways is very similar to the US. The Legislature enacts laws just as they do in our political system.
[B]The Legislative branchs duty is to amend the constitution, make laws ,and exercise political control over the government and the administration. Congress is the body in charge of the legislative function and it is made up of the Senate and the House of Representatives. (Constitucin Poltica de Colombia. Art. 114. (1991)).[/B]
So, fear that a leftist President is going to create a Communist state is patently absurd. Petro has nothing close to major support in the Senate or the House of Representatives.
So, what caused the peso to devalue by almost 10% in the last 2 months (5-11 to 7-11) is tied to a plethora of causes. The Fed raising interest rates causes US Governments to trade at lower values and therefore higher rates (Interest Rates and Bond Prices are inversely related). Countries that held Colombian Governments are trading into more secure and higher earning US Governments. Colombia has also printed higher inflation than it has in many years, which is no doubt creating a rush to the world's reserve currency. Oil prices are wavering and oil is Colombia's main export.
There are probably 20 more factors that interact in how the Colombian currency trades vs. US currency. Petro's election is probably a minor factor.
People who control the rates?? People who actively trade (currency traders) Colombian Pesos are not ignorant of how Colombia's political system works.[/QUOTE]According to this article a new President has "90 days as president during which decrees can be signed without the support of Congress".
[URL]https://time.com/6188361/colombia-presidential-election-gustavo-petro-rodolfo-hernandez/[/URL]
My expectation is that the peso will conitinue to weaken somewhat as Petro increases social programs spending. But much of that is already priced in at well over 4000. You might recall the rate quickly jumped back to 3700 the Monday after it looked like Hernandez would be a serious contender in the runoff.
And as the Fed increases rates the dollar will stay strong. So I think we'll be enjoying a great exchange rate for some time to come. Anything over 4000 is "great" imo. We might even be treated to some "super great" rates LOL.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2718494]Absolutely flat ass nowhere and why on earth would you want to do that?[/QUOTE]Maybe one couldn't get away for now, but also thought the exchange rate had reached it's peak, or that person thought the US dollar might tank.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2718601]According to this article a new President has "90 days as president during which decrees can be signed without the support of Congress".
[URL]https://time.com/6188361/colombia-presidential-election-gustavo-petro-rodolfo-hernandez/[/URL]
My expectation is that the peso will conitinue to weaken somewhat as Petro increases social programs spending. But much of that is already priced in at well over 4000. You might recall the rate quickly jumped back to 3700 the Monday after it looked like Hernandez would be a serious contender in the runoff.
And as the Fed increases rates the dollar will stay strong. So I think we'll be enjoying a great exchange rate for some time to come. Anything over 4000 is "great" imo. We might even be treated to some "super great" rates LOL.[/QUOTE]Ruling by decree and bypassing Congress is not so easy. He would have to declare an emergency and that is subject to review by the Constitutional Court which (by the way) is centrist and not far left leaning.
[URL]https://theglobalamericans.org/2022/06/gustavo-petro-hard-time/[/URL]
Higher inflation data has probably had more of an effect than anything else.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2718561]Unless you plan on spending a lot of time in Colombia there's no advantage to buying pesos in the USA. You'll only save a few dollars.[/QUOTE]Huh? What? So if you DO plan to spend a lot of time in Colombia there IS an advantage to buying COP in the Yew Ess? What? WTF? You'll only save a few dollars? Save a few dollars how? You'll get absolutely fucked senseless buying COP in the Yew Ess.
Really scratching my head on this one. There is [B]no advantage whatsoever[/B] to obtaining COP in the Yew Ess at any time, under any circumstances, for any reason.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2718609]Maybe one couldn't get away for now, but also thought the exchange rate had reached it's peak, or that person thought the US dollar might tank.[/QUOTE]Therefore that person would buy an extremely illiquid and poorly convertible currency, with high transaction costs (especially the bid-ask spread) and hold it in physical uninsured theft prone cash in hopes of some future possible visit. Or, that person thinks they are smarter than the global currency traders. Neither passes my logic test. Even if a particular person thought the US dollar 'might tank,' why would that lead one to COP vs. A more stable and convertible currency?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2718438]I'm not so sure about this. The Ukraine war is driving down the Euro and GBP. The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. Many other currencies are unchanged against the US dollar.[/QUOTE]Look at the US dollar against the basket measure of other currencies, it is extremely strong. All, or almost all, other currencies are down against the US dollar in the past couple of months. Things that happen in the individual countries may modify that a bit, but by far the biggest part is the strength of the US dollar. It is considered a safe haven with rising interest rates, inflation, etc. Etc. And especially as US Fed raises rates the US dollar strengthens, as not all other central banks are raising rates as quickly.
There is a bit of overthinking in this series of posts. I don't find politics especially interesting, so I tend to avoid spending a lot of time thinking about it. In practical terms Petro and any Latin America leader is beholden to powerful interests beyond the will of their citizens and constitutional law. In no particular order, the powerful interests that are high the list are: the International Monetary Fund, narcotraffickers, paramilitary organizations, the military, wealthy landowners (especially in Colombia). Government policy in developing countries generally support a balancing act between the prevention of civil unrest and maintaining the status quo of inequity in which a very small segment of the population controls all significant sources of the countries' wealth. In developing countries the source of wealth is combination of natural resources and the land on or beneath which they lie, and labor. Petro or any other leader who attempts to disrupt this system will be eliminated via exile, assassination, or coerced resignation. It's no more complicated than that.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2718668]Ruling by decree and bypassing Congress is not so easy. He would have to declare an emergency and that is subject to review by the Constitutional Court which (by the way) is centrist and not far left leaning.
[URL]https://theglobalamericans.org/2022/06/gustavo-petro-hard-time/[/URL]
Higher inflation data has probably had more of an effect than anything else.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2718532](The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. } Yes that is the main reason. People who control the rates are afraid of the new Pres being a communist. This was mentioned before the election that if this man wins the pesos would take a hit.
Funny first I used to divide by 2 then 3 then 4. Now maybe 5 will be the new division point in the near future.[/QUOTE]I posted in the main Medellin Report thread, but here as well. I personally think Petro is the #3 reason or so. He's not a Communist, but more a Socialist. The question is whether he's a Maduro Socialist or Bernie Sanders. I think most think the latter, but the issue is even then it will reduce foreign investment. Also while he did get the majority of votes, his party only controls a small portion of their congress so it may limit what he can get through. Hopefully he doesn't get power hungry like Maduro, Orgega, or the guy in El Salvador.
It's 4 or 5 things. In rough order of effect:
1) Rising interest rates in the US is making dollars more attractive to hold and nearly all other currencies go down relative (look at the GBP and Euro). Emerging markets hit worse than established ones.
2) Declining price of oil recently (although still high historically) which is Colombia's largest export and driver of GDP.
3) Petro winning which is expected to reduce foreign investment and grow national debt. He did name a moderate central banker as his Finance Minister so that has tempered some expectations.
4) Belief that the populace will want to push through more progressive measures and anecdotal evidence of rich Colombians accelerating their movement of money outside of the country (I. E. The rich and businesses don't even think it's safe to keep money in-country).
5) Ukraine / Russia. At any time there is a conflict that could expand worldwide people will seek out more stable currencies. On the flip side, the conflict initially causes a dramatic increase in the price of oil which should have helped the COP.
6 - Bonus!) Budget deficit. Colombia had to run a bit hot with a 7% or 8% deficit during Covid. Normal would be around 3 to 4%.
The amazing thing to me is the exchange rate given the historically high price of oil. Without Petro I bet it would be around 3500 to 3700 right now.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2718736]Huh? What? So if you DO plan to spend a lot of time in Colombia there IS an advantage to buying COP in the Yew Ess? What? WTF? You'll only save a few dollars? Save a few dollars how? You'll get absolutely fucked senseless buying COP in the Yew Ess.
Really scratching my head on this one. There is [B]no advantage whatsoever[/B] to obtaining COP in the Yew Ess at any time, under any circumstances, for any reason.[/QUOTE]Don't scratch your head too hard over it. I never said it was advantageous to buy COP in the US. I merely stated that at best there would be only minimal benefit for a short term visitor.
However, here's a hypothetical situation. Someone is retiring in 6 months and plans to move to Colombia for 6 months following retirement. Let's assume he finds a source to get COP at 6% off cost (if rate is 4000 he gets 3760). If long-term projection is a rate of 4 k in 6 months and it spikes to 5 k next week, he can buy $5,000 at 4700 and get 3. 5 million more than if he waits 6 months (assuming the rate returns to 4 k).
But, it's all a gamble and assumes you can find a decent rate to begin with, along with spending enough time and money in Colombia to make it worthwhile.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2718829]There is a bit of overthinking in this series of posts. I don't find politics especially interesting, so I tend to avoid spending a lot of time thinking about it.[/QUOTE]The two most likely scenarios are actually both beneficial to mongers. If the status quo is kept, mongers actually enjoy the exchange rate benefits and cheaper pussy. The pie size stays the same.
If this guy follows the Chavez-Morales method, you actually contract the economy by seizing industries and putting them under government control. The pie typically shrinks in this scenario but because Gustavo controls all the money, there are no well funded rivals to take him on. If the pie shrinks, mongers benefit as their currency goes further. Thing is to keep all your assets abroad or on your person when visiting Colombia because private property is not respected. The pussy cost goes down, but safety goes down, and shitty, negative attitudes are the norm.
The worst for mongers would be seeing Gustavo put forth growth ideas because Colombia would be richer and our dollars would not go as far. The issue with that is when you grow the pie, you have more well funded rivals able to topple you. You never say never but I doubt anyone need worry about that.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2718668]Ruling by decree and bypassing Congress is not so easy. He would have to declare an emergency and that is subject to review by the Constitutional Court which (by the way) is centrist and not far left leaning.
[URL]https://theglobalamericans.org/2022/06/gustavo-petro-hard-time/[/URL]
Higher inflation data has probably had more of an effect than anything else.[/QUOTE]That's a great article you linked thanks much for that detailed synopsis!
I expect Petro will rule by decree and let the Constitutional Court attempt to clean up the mess. We'll find out next month.
And that his policies will be good news for gringos trading dollars for pesos. Still we may hit a peak before he even takes office on "buy the rumor and sell the news".
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2718928] Let's assume he finds a source to get COP at 6% off cost[/QUOTE]Dude. No. There are not discounts on foreign currencies. You're not going to buy a dollar for 94 cents ever, either.
Can we keep this forum for mongering purpose? This morning there's a full page of review about exchange rate, why are you guys are so concern about that, to save 2-3 buck?
[QUOTE=Huacho;2719026]Dude. No. There are not discounts on foreign currencies. You're not going to buy a dollar for 94 cents ever, either.[/QUOTE]Other way around. What he said was you are getting charged a 6% commission when you look at his example. Which is often the case.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2719009]5000 is my next ATM visit.[/QUOTE]I think so, the XE Rate just broke 4602, heck the way it's going it may hit 5,000 by the end of the week, then it's a matter of figuring out what day you can actually get that amount out of the ATM's. Hopefully our Financial Currency Advisor's Funluvr and Villany can advise us all when to hit the ATM's to get the 5,000 if it goes that high.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2719138]Other way around. What he said was you are getting charged a 6% commission when you look at his example. Which is often the case.[/QUOTE]It's a really disgusting rate of commission if you pause to think for a moment about what work they are actually doing. It's another form of financial robbery.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2719160]It's a really disgusting rate of commission if you pause to think for a moment about what work they are actually doing. It's another form of financial robbery.[/QUOTE]I think that was just a hypothetical, but yes, agree with you 100%. And in reality in the country I am in I cannot get an overall cost for currency exchange less than around 3-4%. It is robbery in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2719008]To put this all into perspective, please consider this question. What does Gustavo Petro or anything else in Colombia have to do with the US dollar being at its highest rate against the euro in more than 20 years? You and I are saying basically the same thing.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of movement to usd, but the euro decline appears largely related to the dependency on Russian exports in a time of war.
Further perspective, the euro is down 15 percent in the last year, and 4% since Jun 19, the peso as of this am is down over 18% since June 19 alome. The peso is clearly getting hit much harder. Further perspective, as a Canadian I need to follow the exchange rate with USD for various reasons and our dollar remains stable in the last month.
While markets are hard to understand, the impact of the election seems pretty clear to me. I'm an example of it, I was planning on buying an investment property in Medellin this year and have decided to wait for a while to see what he's like in power. I'm a small potato, but hard to believe I'm the only person who's decided not to move my money into pesos since Petro was elected.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2719160]It's a really disgusting rate of commission if you pause to think for a moment about what work they are actually doing. It's another form of financial robbery.[/QUOTE]Oh dear God! Are you saying that Banks take advantage of their customers? I never thought I would say this. But I agree you JustTK. Just don't let it go to your head.
[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2718994]Good points, I might just hold out on taking any money from ATM until COP stabilizes or until I literally run out of COP. I got another month here, so before leaving I'll see if I should stock up or it might even hit 5,000 by end of the year, who the hell knows right.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are two things that have surprised me, the panic selling continues. If you look at the currencies, the COP is down way more in the few days than other currencies. This is not interest rates ETC. It is panic selling.
But at some point, you would think the Colombian central bank would step in and stop this. You never see the Peruvian sol makes moves like this because the Peru puts a tight grip on its currency.
With the COP this weak, inflation in Colombia is going to be out of control. If I were Colombian, I would be screaming for Colombian authorities to stop this fall. It makes you wonder what is going on and why they are not. Are they trying to show up Gustavo? Are they the ones selling the Colombian assets? You would think at some point soon there would have to be an intervention.
You are right. There is no need to track the exchange rate if you use the currency for weeks at a time. Some of us use pesos full time. That is why the exchange rate is more interesting to us. When I vacation outside of Colombia I don't pay attention to the exchange rate for the reason you stated.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2719115]Based on the frequency I need to go the ATM, I get a dollar cost average exchange rate that is insignificantly different than if I tried to time my withdrawals.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carter80;2719169] While markets are hard to understand, the impact of the election seems pretty clear to me. I'm an example of it, I was planning on buying an investment property in Medellin this year and have decided to wait for a while to see what he's like in power. I'm a small potato, but hard to believe I'm the only person who's decided not to move my money into pesos since Petro was elected.[/QUOTE]This actually might be the right time to be bringing money into the Country at such a good exchange rate, to buy an investment property.
And if your a "small potato" investor, and not living in the Country more than six months a year and not considered a full time tax resident, you would only be subject to income taxes on your investment property. And if you have good Colombian accountant, those taxes can be mitigated.
Petro will most probably instigate the wealth tax again which expired a few years ago, along with going after owners of very large properties to tax them as well.
However in your case, as a "small potato", I don't think whatever he does will have much impact on you, in the short term, yet I get your concerns.
As far as waiting to see what happens after he is in power, well it might be at least a few years before there is anything significant taking place, except taxation I believe.
El Colombiano is splashing the 4600+ and rising level of the US dollar today. Alongside the primary article is an editorial feature with the headline "is it possible to dollarize the Colombian economy?
It's an interesting proposal with historical precedent in Ecuador. As all of us know here, prices quoted in dollars tend to be higher than when they are quoted in a local currency. Let's hope the idea doesn't go farther.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719223]This actually might be the right time to be bringing money into the Country at such a good exchange rate, to buy an investment property.
And if your a "small potato" investor, and not living in the Country more than six months a year and not considered a full time tax resident, you would only be subject to income taxes on your investment property. And if you have good Colombian accountant, those taxes can be mitigated.
Petro will most probably instigate the wealth tax again which expired a few years ago, along with going after owners of very large properties to tax them as well.
However in your case, as a "small potato", I don't think whatever he does will have much impact on you, in the short term, yet I get your concerns.
As far as waiting to see what happens after he is in power, well it might be at least a few years before there is anything significant taking place, except taxation I believe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719223]This actually might be the right time to be bringing money into the Country at such a good exchange rate, to buy an investment property.
And if your a "small potato" investor, and not living in the Country more than six months a year and not considered a full time tax resident, you would only be subject to income taxes on your investment property. And if you have good Colombian accountant, those taxes can be mitigated.
Petro will most probably instigate the wealth tax again which expired a few years ago, along with going after owners of very large properties to tax them as well.
However in your case, as a "small potato", I don't think whatever he does will have much impact on you, in the short term, yet I get your concerns.
As far as waiting to see what happens after he is in power, well it might be at least a few years before there is anything significant taking place, except taxation I believe.[/QUOTE]I don't necessarily disagree (double negative for effect). We might be seeing a temporary peak in the dollar and a return to sub 4000 soon onces the reaction recedes. And I don't necessarily think he's going to do anything crazy, I just think the possibility exists now and is beyond my personal risk threshold at the moment.
I'm certainly glad I didn't buy the property I was looking at in early June as I'd be down 20% right away due to the devaluation, so to this point waiting has served me well.
My thinking on waiting is simply I want to have a better understanding of whether he has authoritarian leanings or not. If not, and the peso stabilizes I'll feel much more comfortable at that point. We all have our risk thresholds and while that might mean a missed opportunity, I'm willing to accept that. I also believe that this thinking is what's driving people to sell off on the peso, it's just a level of uncertainty that didn't exist before.
I am very clear about the general risk profile. The recent peso slide is a pointed reminder. I'm not very clear about the benefit potential. Is there really enough profit potential to justify the risk of devaluation and loss of liquidity? It seems to me there are many other investment opportunities around the world. If nothing else, the pace of construction here limits the potential property value appreciation.
[QUOTE=Carter80;2719249]I don't necessarily disagree (double negative for effect). We might be seeing a temporary peak in the dollar and a return to sub 4000 soon onces the reaction recedes. And I don't necessarily think he's going to do anything crazy, I just think the possibility exists now and is beyond my personal risk threshold at the moment.
I'm certainly glad I didn't buy the property I was looking at in early June as I'd be down 20% right away due to the devaluation, so to this point waiting has served me well.
My thinking on waiting is simply I want to have a better understanding of whether he has authoritarian leanings or not. If not, and the peso stabilizes I'll feel much more comfortable at that point. We all have our risk thresholds and while that might mean a missed opportunity, I'm willing to accept that. I also believe that this thinking is what's driving people to sell off on the peso, it's just a level of uncertainty that didn't exist before.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Caboteur;2719132]Can we keep this forum for mongering purpose? This morning there's a full page of review about exchange rate, why are you guys are so concern about that, to save 2-3 buck?[/QUOTE]This page should be for Trip reports not discussions.
For those of you who care. The Visa Exchange Rate, which is what you will get at the ATMs, tomorrow will be 4,513.
For those you who don't care. I return you to your regular schedule programming.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2719138]Other way around. What he said was you are getting charged a 6% commission when you look at his example. Which is often the case.[/QUOTE]Right, so it's not a fucking discount; it's a [B]premium[/B] or a haircut or a cost or a negative or whatever you want to call it. I get his math. My point is the futility of overcoming such charges when it's all a crapshoot. A lot of people think they can predict the direction of forex, interest rates and so forth. But, I actually [B]can predict exactly what foreign exchange rates are going to do![/B].
They are going to fluctuate. Forex rates will always depend on relative real interest rates, the balance of trade, and the perceived ability of the country to control and tax its citizens. But, all three of those components are continually fluctuating. Keep your wealth in a stable currency and go with the flow on exchange rates. If you live in Colombia, you're going to have to put up with it because you can't control it. If you are portable, you can live where your native currency is strong. But, that could change. Now, if you are based in a country with a strong currency and just travel periodically, then you can definitely benefit by traveling where the exchange rate tells you to.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719223]This actually might be the right time to be bringing money into the Country at such a good exchange rate, to buy an investment property..[/QUOTE]Land is about all I would look at. That traditionally has been much harder to seize. I put $1500 in a stock fund in Bolivia, and Morales drove that to zero. I would be really careful about bank accounts, stocks, bonds, or anything else that can be easily seized with this guy Gustavo. Maybe he is not Chavez or Morales but you never know.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2719026]Dude. No. There are not discounts on foreign currencies. You're not going to buy a dollar for 94 cents ever, either.[/QUOTE]Dude. No. Is there something in viagra that causes people to forget basic math? The numbers are right there in my post for the hypothetical situation I offered and they clearly indicate that a discount was not being discussed.
When you exchange currency, either by withdrawal from an ATM in another country, or using a currency exchange office, you pay a fee (although at times the fee is zero or even negative, I'll explain). That fee takes many forms. Some banks charge for a foreign currency conversion, some charge for using a foreign ATM. Exchange offices give a rate which is less than the current rate. Even with no fees, there is usually a difference between the rate you receive and what the actual market rate is at the time of the transaction (which is how it's possible to get a negative fee, or get the money at a discount). All of this has been explained completely by both Villainy and FunLvr.
I don't know all of the various rates which you can buy pesos in the US. I know that at one time Bank of America customers could get pesos for a very good rate. If I remember correctly 1.5%. I also know that one of my banks, when I asked about it offered a terrible rate, worse than bad airport exchange rates.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2719351]Right, so it's not a fucking discount; it's a [B]premium[/B] or a haircut or a cost or a negative or whatever you want to call it. I get his math. My point is the futility of overcoming such charges when it's all a crapshoot. A lot of people think they can predict the direction of forex, interest rates and so forth. But, I actually [B]can predict exactly what foreign exchange rates are going to do![/B].
They are going to fluctuate. Forex rates will always depend on relative real interest rates, the balance of trade, and the perceived ability of the country to control and tax its citizens. But, all three of those components are continually fluctuating. Keep your wealth in a stable currency and go with the flow on exchange rates. If you live in Colombia, you're going to have to put up with it because you can't control it. If you are portable, you can live where your native currency is strong. But, that could change. Now, if you are based in a country with a strong currency and just travel periodically, then you can definitely benefit by traveling where the exchange rate tells you to.[/QUOTE]Right. Except the only person who said it was a fucking discount was you. You getcall wound up over something that existed only in your mind and then get twisted further out of shape when it's pointed out that you failed to grasp the math.
Switch to decaf.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719478]Right. Except the only person who said it was a fucking discount was you. [/QUOTE]"Originally Posted by JjBee62.
Let's assume he finds a source to get COP at 6% off cost".
Perhaps you meant 6% [B]above[/B] cost. After I read the above, I'm not sure I even looked at the numbers. Because if you get something at X% "off cost," that's known as a discount.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2719531]"Originally Posted by JjBee62.
Let's assume he finds a source to get COP at 6% off cost".
Perhaps you meant 6% [B]above[/B] cost. After I read the above, I'm not sure I even looked at the numbers. Because if you get something at X% "off cost," that's known as a discount.[/QUOTE]Thus your failure to comprehend what was in front of your face.
"Off" lacks a vector, it's positional, not directional. Granted, it's frequently used as you assumed I was using it. That's why it's important to read the entire post to understand the content, instead of focusing on one word taken out of context.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719577]That's why it's important to read the entire post to understand the content, instead of focusing on one word taken out of context.[/QUOTE]True, but your posts are way too fucking long most of the time.
Tomorrow you can pull 4,627.45 Colombian Peso / Dollar at the ATMs. This is the highest it has been and based on currency trading results today (Wednesday) the Friday rate will be back to just under 4,500. So if you're thinking of grabing some money, Thursday (before 7 pm) is the time to do it.
This public monger service announcement was brought to you by Villainy.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719577]"Off" lacks a vector, it's positional, not directional. [/QUOTE]Um I have no idea what that means but after vector you need a semi colon and not a comma. You are hooking two complete sentences together. That is what is known as a "comma splice. " Just so you know, since you seem really anal about details.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2719883]Um I have no idea what that means but after vector you need a semi colon and not a comma. You are hooking two complete sentences together. That is what is known as a "comma splice. " Just so you know, since you seem really anal about details.[/QUOTE]Pffff. Hehe. Let me introduce you to WTF Jpaedo.
This service announcement part made me laugh out loud.
Amazing rate. I need to get back ASAP.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2719695]Tomorrow you can pull 4,627.45 Colombian Peso / Dollar at the ATMs. This is the highest it has been and based on currency trading results today (Wednesday) the Friday rate will be back to just under 4,500. So if you're thinking of grabing some money, Thursday (before 7 pm) is the time to do it.
This public monger service announcement was brought to you by Villainy.[/QUOTE]
Today (Sunday 7/17) and Tomorrow you can pull Colombian pesos at 4,519 to the dollar. The transaction rate (XE rate) looks like it closed around 4,357 on Friday which would suggest that is the rate you will get on Tuesday. So if you need pesos you might want to get them now (or tomorrow).
OH and never forget to decline any bank rate that is offered. That is solely offered to give you a silly option to enrich the bank. [B]If[/B] you decline their no so generous offer you will get the Visa Exchange Rate that I've described above.
Some have said this was a waste of energy. OK but here is an example of the relevance. If you are here a week. Let's say you pull 4,500,000 Colombian pesos (the equivalent of about 1,000 US dollars) now. Your plan is to fund your needs for the entire week. If you wait and get the money after the rate falls to 4,350 that same 1,000 US only gets you 4,350,000 Colombian pesos.
That means you saved 150,000. Which is most of the cost of a FB cita or several meals or a couple of casa visits or whatever.
How do you capitalize on this in the states?
[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2726442]How do you capitalize on this in the states?[/QUOTE]Buy only imported stuff.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2726668]Buy only imported stuff.[/QUOTE]I mean is there a way for me to buy pesos for an upcoming trip?
[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2726676]I mean is there a way for me to buy pesos for an upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]I think the price you pay if you try to buy in the US would not be to your advantage, generally you will get the best exchange rate from within the country you are visiting if you are from the US. But in any case the US dollar has weakened a wee bit since your post, but not sure how it is against the Colombian peso.
[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2726676]I mean is there a way for me to buy pesos for an upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]Yes, but you will get severely raped and would be very lucky for the fluctuation in the rate to offset the high commission. Because, the COP is not a popular international currency. The bid-ask spread is quite high. Here is a ten year chart:
[URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=COP&view=10Y[/URL]
So it's a continually depreciating currency overall (10.16% depreciation on average annually). That means short term fluctuations will be overcome by the long-term trend. That means you don't want to buy COP very far in advance even if you could get the short term blip right. Add to that the risk of holding physical cash.
[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2726676]I mean is there a way for me to buy pesos for an upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]There's atms in the airport.
After 1 week in Bogota and 1 in Cali, I have just arrived at Medellin. I'm at the Energy this year.
Anybody around? I need to eat something, willing to join? Than we can go to a girls club.
Please PM me.
Thanks.
I'm taking my first trip next month and was wondering where the hottest chicas on average are? I'd like to make the most of my time with quality over quantity and don't mind spending a little more. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
[QUOTE=Vvvs1234;2753897]I'm taking my first trip next month and was wondering where the hottest chicas on average are? I'd like to make the most of my time with quality over quantity and don't mind spending a little more. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]Social media like IG, FB, SA, Tinder, etc. As far as in person I would recommend Loutron, La Isla, and Fase II.
I don't know if this was posted, but figured I'd share here about this OC guy that ended up dead in Medellin. Always be on your toes. [URL]https://abc7.com/paul-nguyen-colombia-tourist-death-travel-safety-cal-state-fullerton/12453453/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2754364]Social media like IG, FB, SA, Tinder, etc. As far as in person I would recommend Loutron, La Isla, and Fase II.[/QUOTE]Is Loutron better than mansion as far as girl quality? I haven't really seen any one talk about the mansion recently.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2766671]Is Loutron better than mansion as far as girl quality? [/QUOTE]What do you mean by quality. Beauty, personality, ability in bed, intelligence?
Its all subjective. Just go and have fun.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2766671]Is Loutron better than mansion as far as girl quality? I haven't really seen any one talk about the mansion recently.[/QUOTE]You're not comparing two similar places.
Loutron is a casa, a brothel located in a mansion. They have prostitutes working there.
The Mansion is an old mansion converted into a hotel. Freelance prostitutes hang out there at the pool during the day and in the bar at night.
Last I heard there was a 50 k cover charge to enter the bar if you're not staying in the hotel.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2766841]What do you mean by quality. Beauty, personality, ability in bed, intelligence?
Its all subjective. Just go and have fun.[/QUOTE]Well to put it into perspective I have a pretty high standard when it comes to paying for sex. What I mean by quality is mainly looks / body. I understand sometimes you don't have the best experience with girls that only have looks, But then again if I wanted a basic looking girl to have sex with I would just go to a local bar. The kind of girls I usually pay for sex usually have had work done and in my opinion usually fall in between 8-9's usually thick legs, small waists, perfect juicy butt. My idea of a 10 as far as body would be a girl on ig by the name of genesisLopezoffical. I was surprised to find out just recently she has a couple sex tapes haha man seeing her take it from behind is quite a view.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2766867]You're not comparing two similar places.
Loutron is a casa, a brothel located in a mansion. They have prostitutes working there.
The Mansion is an old mansion converted into a hotel. Freelance prostitutes hang out there at the pool during the day and in the bar at night.
Last I heard there was a 50 k cover charge to enter the bar if you're not staying in the hotel.[/QUOTE]Both sound intriguing, just wondering which one others like better, but mainly which one has better looking girls, I figured it would be like comparing adelitas to Hong Kong with Hong Kong being the obvious choice for better looking girls.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767259]Both sound intriguing, just wondering which one others like better, but mainly which one has better looking girls, I figured it would be like comparing adelitas to Hong Kong with Hong Kong being the obvious choice for better looking girls.[/QUOTE]If it's strictly looks, then the choice is probably Loutron. I don't recall a single report where someone was impressed with the service, but the reviews are mostly positive for the appearance of the girls.
However, there's no guarantee you'll find a body like the one you're looking for at either place. With only a few exceptions, most guys find the average looking Colombian to be well above the average they have grown to expect.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767255]Well to put it into perspective I have a pretty high standard when it comes to paying for sex.
The kind of girls I usually pay for sex usually have had work done and in my opinion usually fall in between 8-9's usually thick legs, small waists, perfect juicy butt.[/QUOTE]In that case all I could do is repeat myself and say beauty is subjective. I personally don't find the girls of your description at all attractive. So you got to put the effort in urself and find girls to your taste. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767259]Both sound intriguing, just wondering which one others like better, but mainly which one has better looking girls, I figured it would be like comparing adelitas to Hong Kong with Hong Kong being the obvious choice for better looking girls.[/QUOTE]Loutron, on average, will have better looking women. But the Mansion is more fun, at least for me. I frequently stay there. If you're not staying there, I don't advise paying to get in the bar, unless you know it's rocking that night.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767259]Both sound intriguing, just wondering which one others like better, but mainly which one has better looking girls, I figured it would be like comparing adelitas to Hong Kong with Hong Kong being the obvious choice for better looking girls.[/QUOTE]Loutron is going to have better looking girls.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767259]Both sound intriguing, just wondering which one others like better, but mainly which one has better looking girls, I figured it would be like comparing adelitas to Hong Kong with Hong Kong being the obvious choice for better looking girls.[/QUOTE]No. It was more like comparing Las Cascadas to Adelitas.
Good stuff. Looks like loutron it is. Maybe I'll still check out mansion if I have time.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2767431]Good stuff. Looks like loutron it is. Maybe I'll still check out mansion if I have time.[/QUOTE]Not worth it imo unless you are already staying there because they will charge you a cover fee to get into the bar.
Guys who use Insta, Facebook, how do you message girls on these apps? Are you direct with your intentions in the very first messages? Like do you tell them you are gringo and you straight out offer to bang them for $, or you do some small talk first?
[QUOTE=IAmThatGuy;2802390]Guys who use Insta, Facebook, how do you message girls on these apps? Are you direct with your intentions in the very first messages? Like do you tell them you are gringo and you straight out offer to bang them for $, or you do some small talk first?[/QUOTE]There are as many ways, means and styles of introducing yourself as there are gringos in Medellin. Since I don't know you, I can't begin to tell you what will work best for you.
I live here and this is my introductory message to a FB or Insta or Tinder girl:
Hello (girl's name)! Nice to meet you!
I am (your name) an American that lives here. I retired 3 1/2 years ago and moved to Medellin in 2019. I like to watch movies and go out to restaurants but I don't go out much in the evenings and sometimes I get bored. I would like to meet you. (I put a $$ after the last sentence to somewhat clarify my intentions without being rude).
Do you have WhatsApp? My number is (include your number).
You'll have to figure out how to put that (or something similar) into Spanish. I recommend a short and somewhat toned down initial approach to start. You don't want to insult the girl if she is not available for a date. But you want to be sufficiently suggestive so that if she is available she will respond.
I'm around the Lauerles area looking for a store that sell knockoff designer clothes / shoes. Anyone know of such a place around Medellin?
Something like.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdK-veqzXBU[/URL]
[QUOTE=DownLow123;2805798]I'm around the Lauerles area looking for a store that sell knockoff designer clothes / shoes. Anyone know of such a place around Medellin?
Something like.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdK-veqzXBU[/URL][/QUOTE]Av. Carabobo and around it. Start from Parque De Las Luces, go north and I'm sure you'll find plenty. El Centro is full of this stuff. Follow the crowds. Must be millions of fake sneakers in there. P.S. I wouldn't venture further north than Botero plaza.
[QUOTE=DownLow123;2805798]I'm around the Lauerles area looking for a store that sell knockoff designer clothes / shoes. Anyone know of such a place around Medellin?
Something like.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdK-veqzXBU[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm sure there must be places in Laureles but you should be looking in El Centro. That would be the area where you would find hundreds of stores and street vendors that sell that type of clothing.
[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2805871]Av. Carabobo and around it. Start from Parque De Las Luces, go north and I'm sure you'll find plenty. El Centro is full of this stuff. Follow the crowds. Must be millions of fake sneakers in there. P.S. I wouldn't venture further north than Botero plaza.[/QUOTE]Might also try Itagui, Carrera 52 south of Calle 85, the Mayorista area. Lots of stuff there. Another option, there's a clothing outlet mall across from the regional airport. Northeast corner of Calle 14 and Calle 65.
For all the reply's and advice. Will venture to look in a few days once I become more attuned to the area.
Has anyone golfed in Medellin? Is it only private clubs, or is there some public golf too? I played with some guys from Medellin when I was in Cartagena. But I am an idiot and didn't get their what's app to ask if they could get me on their private club courses.
When paying with cash we give the courier (rappi driver) the entire total due correct? Never used the service here nor instacart in the states so I'm fucking clueless to what I'm doing.
[QUOTE=DownLow123;2807247]When paying with cash we give the courier (rappi driver) the entire total due correct? Never used the service here nor instacart in the states so I'm fucking clueless to what I'm doing.[/QUOTE]Yes. It's been years since I used it, but when I ordered before, paying cash, I was asked how much I was paying so the driver would have the correct change ready.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2807384]Yes. It's been years since I used it, but when I ordered before, paying cash, I was asked how much I was paying so the driver would have the correct change ready.[/QUOTE]Girl #2 in my report said the same exact thing. You always seem to give good info JjBee, Thanks!
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2824944]This is exactly how I feel about this forum. I'm wondering why someone who top Colombian models are paying to have sex with are even on a monger board let alone posting? I'll be in MDE next week for the fourth time in the last 7 months. Got a stable of hotties I've been with before lined up and some new ones. I'll be busy. FYI I just do FB and SA girls and only the hottest ones, mostly from SA. Model types. I pay between 350 and 600 all in for long dates in my airbnb with as much sex as I can muster and if we both want, go to a nice dinner after. I'd rather go out to dinner with a hottie than by myself. A few are BBFS and all are BBBJ and GFE. I do some light negotiating but that's about it. I want to girl to be satisfied with what she is getting and I turn down a lot of dates if the price is too high. Some of the better looking SA girls are asking 700-800 and won't come down. The FB girls tend to charge less than the SA girls but not all of them. I speak intermediate spanish and I think that helps a lot.[/QUOTE]Relationship sex and mongering sex are very different.
Ever heard the expression " for every hot girl there's always a guy tired of banging her".
I can tell you from experience. If you're Spanish is good to the point of not having to use google translate. It's a new world out there.
Enjoy [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIl0aJs-VSs&ab_channel=RamiTravel[/URL].
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2824967]Relationship sex and mongering sex are very different.
Ever heard the expression " for every hot girl there's always a guy tired of banging her".
I can tell you from experience. If you're Spanish is good to the point of not having to use google translate. It's a new world out there.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of this expression, it does makes sense though. Over the years I have cultivated some friendships in this city. One retired footballer comes to my mind. The guy currently owns a gourmet coffee shop in the Belen area. Early 40's, fit and reasonably well off for Colombian standards. We have gone to casas / clubs a couple of times and he picks average looking chicas. One Friday a couple of months age, I met his family for dinner and was blown away at how gorgeous super model type his wife was. A perfect 8 or 9 and he still lusts after an occasional 5 and 6 chicas!
I am in the city starting next week. PM me of you want to hang out or grab a beer / coffee. Please do not ping me if you are only interested in asking to share some GFE contacts. It took time and effort to build my relationships here.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2825136]I have not heard of this expression, it does makes sense though. Over the years I have cultivated some friendships in this city. One retired footballer comes to my mind. The guy currently owns a gourmet coffee shop in the Belen area. Early 40's, fit and reasonably well off for Colombian standards. We have gone to casas / clubs a couple of times and he picks average looking chicas. One Friday a couple of months age, I met his family for dinner and was blown away at how gorgeous super model type his wife was. A perfect 8 or 9 and he still lusts after an occasional 5 and 6 chicas![/QUOTE]Now can you understand what some of us have been saying? We have been there and done that and gotten the coffee mug. It is not that we can not get that kind of chick or in the mongering world can't afford to pay a chick like that. Like your buddy, we are just hanging out having a good time with what comes our way. We are not out like a heat seeking missle saying this is the only type of chick that I must get. After you have had tons of them it is no big deal and in many cases the juice is not worth the squeeze as several people have written reports showing.
Good thing those Lleras, FB, and SA chicks will charge less since the exchange rate is falling.
The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed. Back in the 2000's Halle berry was in the news a lot for being cheated on constantly and getting dumped. My boss asked me why this is happening to her so much. I said because she sucks in bed. Period. As mongers we know what pse is. Most guys married to hot women don't. Elizabeth Hurley is hot and an Oxford graduate. Hugh grant cheated on her with a five dollar crack working girl. He wanted a real BJ.
This is to all the simps and that can't say no. An example how to say no.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2825188]The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed.[/QUOTE]No matter how PSE she could get it will get boring after a while. Speaking from experience. One can only have the same meal over and over again for so long. You eventually won't even notice that once great view from your window. Variety is the spice of life.
No to mention men are wired to spread the seed not to dump it all in one woman. If she can keep herself fresh and new for her man, then she can delay it for a while. Some relationship-jailed men are getting their variety fix from porn, but eventually that's doesn't do either. Women know this of course which is why all the different outfits, makeups and all the pressure to get that most important contract signed ASAP while she's still fuckable and 'new' . Then she can finally relax and start getting fat and lazy. Places with a lot of reasonably priced hookers often keep all the wives honest though. No girls to have fun with -- I just ate a whole cake honey and don't feel like blowing you, order yourself something and go to sleep.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2825223]Your comments regarding BBFS have not been my experience. I don't necessarily look for it as I don't want to get a girl pregnant, but I've had Seeking girls, IG 'model' girls, and hot regulars that ask me 'How can I make more than your standard? . I'll say you need to do something more (ie BBFS). Maybe 1 in 8 agrees. And usually the BBFS just happens when we've had a fight or they think I'm going to leave them. On the other end of the spectrum I've had girls stop seeing me as the simple questing made them think that I was raw dogging a bunch of girls and putting their health at risk. Of note, I'm early 40's (pass for younger) and in very good and healthy shape. Regular check ups, etc. It's not like I'm a degenerate looking guy, but regardless the girls won't take the risk.[/QUOTE]Yes 100%. If a girl truly feels comfortable with you she will one day simply jump on top.
Bringing that specific service up as a topic will usually scare a lot of girls.
Young girls new to the game or druggies sws are the only group that will entertain such offers.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2825188]The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed. Back in the 2000's Halle berry was in the news a lot for being cheated on constantly and getting dumped. My boss asked me why this is happening to her so much. I said because she sucks in bed. Period. As mongers we know what pse is. Most guys married to hot women don't. Elizabeth Hurley is hot and an Oxford graduate. Hugh grant cheated on her with a five dollar crack working girl. He wanted a real BJ.[/QUOTE]I just think us as mongers have a different mindset and always need something new.
Once you're with a girl in a real relationship there really isn't anything she won't do. I simply think we're not built to be content with one girl regardless of how hot she is.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2825183]Good thing those Lleras, FB, and SA chicks will charge less since the exchange rate is falling.[/QUOTE]Where does that leave the person that is uninterested in paying more?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2825250]Yes 100%. If a girl truly feels comfortable with you she will one day simply jump on top.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Something I have experienced. But still an opinion.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2825250]Bringing that specific service up as a topic will usually scare a lot of girls.[/QUOTE]Another opinion. These girls are getting paid for a service. You should ask for what you want. A girl who runs because I ask for a particular service is a girl I don't want to be with in the first place. The last thing you want is a girl that promises everything and then does not deliver. Get to no quickly. No one ever gets disappointed by positive surprises only negative ones. Keep an abundance mind set. If only one (1) out of eight (8) say yes make sure you ask at least eight.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2825250]Young girls new to the game or druggies sws are the only group that will entertain such offers.[/QUOTE]This statement is written as a fact when the writer clearly knows he is expressing his opinion.
[B]Opinion[/B]: An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2824965]
I never think I am better than anyone. Regardless if they spend 40 k or 400 usd on a girl.
.... if you look at the pattern of behavior of some people they like to poke at guys who spend more think that the guys who spend more are fools or idiots.
.... my favorite. The in demand 8's-10's can be had for 200 mil...
Then they talk about how all girls are poor and can't afford nothing meanwhile half these hookers have the most up to date iPhones and spend 1000's a month on make up, nail, etc.
Everyone has different standards in mongering and dating... So let's move on from this nonsense since those fools are nowhere to be found.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.
But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?
Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.
Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2825292]Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2825302]But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?
Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.
Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree preferring natural over silicone. Even lipo or fat freezing or face contouring etc is a no go. . But a pretty smile is a must.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2825302] A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. [/QUOTE]A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.
Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?
Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2825317]A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.[/QUOTE]Nonsense. Absolutely stunning women can be found almost anywhere. There's no worldwide agency inspecting every girl born and whisking away all the ones who will turn out to be "stunners" to some hidden enclave, where they're raised by a secret society entrusted with providing 10's to the world's elite.
Now, you might not consider what someone else calls a GND as a 9 or 10, but many others would disagree. In my opinion a GND is simply a beautiful woman, without the overworked hair and makeup, who typically dresses in normal attire.
[QUOTE] Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?[/QUOTE]I used to think the same way. "She's too beautiful to be interested in me. " "I can't compete with all the guys who are after her. " That mindset makes it extremely difficult and is probably why so many guys find themselves going to p4 p in order to get above average women.
Then I started talking to 1, just talk, normal stuff. She met all the requirements. She was in high demand, millionaires and billionaires were wooing her (and 25 years ago billionaires were a lot more scarce). She was beautiful, in face and body and she wasn't just jumping into bed with anyone. Yet, she ended up in my bed many times, often after going on a date with the guys who were supposedly my competition.
It's quite simple. Most of the guys you think you're competing with are either idiots or assholes. All any guy needs to do is to be a decent human being with at least a bit of a sense of humor. That combined with good hygiene and a dash of sincerity works wonders.
How many would a monger score in his life? That's a tough question. Before I started mongering (in my 50's), there were maybe a dozen. Since switching mostly to P4P, 5 or 6. I no longer see the point in seeking them out, besides I'm still doing the GF thing.
[QUOTE]Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.[/QUOTE]This part confuses me. You've posted many times about going after only the top women, the best of the best, only the most beautiful for you. You've attacked many others because you felt they were only going after inferior women. Yet, with only a few exceptions, you say that almost all of the girls you've been with were in most guys average to above average range.
I don't use a 1-10 scale. If I did, a 6 would be a casa girl I'd settle for, because I didn't feel like looking for anything better, while a 7 would be 1 of the better casa girls. That's a 50-60 k girl. An 8 would be a HCEQV Facebook girl (a girl I can set up a date with by messaging "Hola. Como estas? Quiero verte), formerly 200 k, now no more than 300 k. Girls above an 8 usually require a conversation and a little more money, if I was rating them that way.
Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.
To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2825874]Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.
To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.[/QUOTE]Drop the bat and watch walk off home run!
I made the point in another post in another thread here in the Colombia forum that one should pay attention to their appearance and I was called an [I] idiot[/I] by one of our less eloquent posters that populate the forum. Attitude and looks matter. In both transactional and non transactional relationships. As an example, I was getting a little straggly and needed a haircut and a shave. As I was walking with my girl I saw a barbershop and approached a young barber with a client and he invited me to be next. Long story short after he finished up with me. I came out of the shop and my girl told me I looked five years younger. And anecdotal illustration for sure. But looking your best and projecting confidence has never hurt anyone in life.
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.
All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?
-Loki.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.
I've been going to Med since 2005. I've too seen the changes (for the bad) with these type tourists. I was there a few weeks ago and was shocked to see as many fools from the states as I did. Colombians are reserved for the most part. So to watch these loud obnoxious American tourists behave the way they did was so embarrassing. A group of them were yelling (in English) to a young boy who was a beggar. They totally berated him. Then they did something and ran through the street yelling and laughing and then about 5 of them jumped in a little Yellow Taxi, slammed the doors on it yelling for the Taxi to "Go!" At this time this boys friends were yelling for the Policia! For whatever this group of hoods had done to their friend. The Cops were taking their time so the cab eventually left. I'm sure they handed him money because he didn't want to go at first. Something has to give. A few things can happen there, and I hope it eventually does to some of them and it sends a message. It makes your heart sink watching the bad behaviour from Americans there when your also American.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830278]I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.
All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?
-Loki.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up and the Energy update. It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic. Did you have any observations about girls you are willing to add to your social observations?
[QUOTE=Loki;2830278]I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful..[/QUOTE]I have been living 6 months of the year in mde since 2015. This stopped in Dec. 2021 when the city started going viral on social media. It is like Tulum or Cancun or Sosua now, fools with selfie sticks and go pros trying to go viral on tiktok or youtube and blowing up spots on twitter. It is really embarrassing behavior when you think about it, grown men taking little videos of their lives overseas because of insecurity. The group you mentioned used to be relegated to Cartagena, but now they have taken over "medejeen". It isn't a particular race thing though, you have all kinds of dweebs coming from the states that don't speak a lick of Spanish acting like marks.
For me Medellin is uninhabitable now, even sabaneta, envigado. There is a little enclave where ricerocket is, but not going to mention it. Currently in a smaller antioqueño town and it is calm, but boring tbh. And Bogota is too cold, zona t / g are getting over run as well. Tier 2-3 cities are the best option in Colombia right now unless you don't mind the piss poor American behavior (I am American BTW).
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency..[/QUOTE]First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that. Like you kind of already stated, any group of young guys on vacation are going to be rowdy. I been to Cartagena, Sosua, Santo Domingo, Jaco and never once have I had a problem with the way any urban Americans rolled. They were all just trying to have a good time like everyone else. Any group of young guys at that age on a mongering trip are going to be rowdy. Now what goes on behind closed doors, I don't know. The biggest problem is just social media and the huge numbers of tourists in general. Dudes filming everything and blasting it all over instagram and youtube.
I have said this before. We should try to uphold the narrative on the forum of preservation of the game. This means keep your head down, treat everyone right, don't splash your cash, and stay the fuck out of any legal trouble. Bring class to the game to preserve it. And stop filming and taking pictures of every little fucking thing you do.
Sad to say, but Cartagena is already ruined, look at all the druggings in Medellin. Many have switched to the new spot which is good for now, but how long until cat is out of the bag on that one and tons of videos go up and tourists ruin that place too.
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2833904]You should care to a certain degree If you are here posting. I do. Thats why DR hoes are charging 150 US and Brazil is pricy too. Why, because of the make it rain mentally. But Hi do you man. Enjoy yourself![/QUOTE]How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2834085]I don't think the price can be affected by a single monger. Let's fast forward 12 months from now. It is possible one of your regulars who you consider hot asks for twice you have been paying because that is what others are paying her. [/QUOTE]And no monger can affect the exchange rate, which has been slipping the past few months. Eventually, things reach a point where those that do not care, come to find out actually do care.
No said we are reprimanded my G. Just voicing my opinion in a forum about our sport. Just spoke to a ISG member. Told me his boy payed 800 k for a night. LMAO! Other guy are paying for these hoes college or beautician school, which is the biggest waste of money IMO. Every Colombian girl wants to go to beautician school. OMG! There sure are a lot of simps in this new generation.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2834070]How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.[/QUOTE]
I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).
What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control
25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?
that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planet
I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? Even though my card reimburses ATM fees, I feel their reimbursements are sometimes off and don't want to deal with it if possible.
Full disclosure: I am melanin-rich! I only spend one week a month in Medellin. I like the Dominican Republic enough to live there. And I am renting a room in Sosua next year to try it out. My country of origin is the (Dis) United States of America. I think outside the box.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?[/QUOTE]I am not going to call you an intentional lier. But in my opinion you are misinformed about the Dominican Republic. Forgive me, I just don't remember reading your posts in the Dominican Republic forum over there during last ten years I have been posting there. But if I have missed them please point them out to me so I can do a deeper dive into your work and maybe change my opinion on what you have written here. I am certainly willing to discuss anything you wish to say about the Dominican Republic wherever you would like. I am not using an appeal to authority. So share your facts and opinions but be ready to back up your factual statements.
Not here to cancel anyone. I am here to respond and give a different perspective. So if anyone is not able to handle what I write please stop reading now. I don't want anyone to have an apoplectic fit.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.[/QUOTE]How shall I say it? Like a man. That is some bullshit! What's up with the code? State it like it is. Are you one of the melanin-rich or melanin-poor? This information will inform my opinion on your attitude.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.[/QUOTE]Those are strong words. Are you able to back them up. The ones about the Dominican Republic? May I ask, have you even visited the Dominican Republic? If so, where. I state again, I have missed your posts about it.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.[/QUOTE]I see we are back to the [B]melanin-rich or melanin-poor[/B] comparisons. Have you stopped to think what it takes to get a passport in the United States or any other country? Your description of them is inaccurate at best and 'ist' at worst. Less than 50% of all citizens of the United States of America hold passports. The individual you describe are elite. That is a fact. What you think about them is is your opinion.
[QUOTE=Loki;2830346]P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.[/QUOTE]Why would I try to message someone, who seems on the face of it to be ill informed on the Dominican Republic, but insists on using it to compare to things that he does not like that he sees in Colombia? I have no basis to dispute anything you say about Colombia. I do not hang where you hang and therefore I don't see what you see when I am in Colombia.
But in my opinion, your comments about the Dominican Republic indicate to me as a person who actually lives in the country that you don't know jack (my nice word) about the Dominican Republic. Anyone who doubts my knowledge base refer to this post in the Medellin thread:
[QUOTE=RainCity206;2825742]Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread.[/QUOTE]He read my work.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2830434]It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]What inside information about the Dominican Republic is that?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2830448]First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that. [/QUOTE]You and Loki are not right about the Dominican Republic. And in fact as the [B]The Notorious B.I.G.[/B] said: "[I]you're dead wrong![/I]".
[I]"Relax and take notes, while I take tokes of the marijuana smoke. "[/I] - [B]The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong[/B].
And it is about race and nationality. Your post proves it. That is why you are who you are and writing about it. With the code words and implications that the actions of one group of people are better than another group of people.
I live in the Dominican Republic and unless you are in a very specific place in the the Dominican Republic (Sosua) in a very specific venue (Rumbas / Kings), you will not see any of the actions that are have been described by [B]RamDavison84[/B] or [B]Loki.[/B].
And I take issue with terms like [I]Melanin-rich variety from the United States.[/I] And I will state further that if you don't believe me about the Dominican Republic, I don't give a fuck. Live in the Dominican Republic for ten years and tell me I am wrong or that I am lying. Then give me some facts to back it up. Opinions, you know what they say about those. I'm writing this from Sosua this very moment. [I]How you like me now?[/I].
Fuck all those who are melanin deprived with bad attitudes. Those who look at culture and cannot understand it. Even when it is been in their face in their own country for years. They are like hammers seeing everything in life like a nail. Individuals like that have been colonizing the world for years. These posts read like the opinions of pussy colonizers that are facing competition from individuals willing to do what others are not.
Just because I don't like an attitude or actions that someone displays does not mean I am going to condemn it. And if I don't like what I see in Rumbas / Kings I do not have to go there. If you don't like the behavior of a certain group of people, be men, use clear language and state who they are. Talk to management of the establishment and ask them to confront the behavior or leave. Do do otherwise is some passive aggressive girly man shit. I understand completely if you see disagreeable behavior and comment on it. But keep the Dominican Republic out of your mother fucking mouth if all you know about it is what you see on Youtube. And if you don't like what I have to say, then put me on ignore. If you throw up weak ass mess, I am going to go hard in the paint and reject that shit forth with!
[I]"I dont give a fuck if you dont like my shit. Cause I was high when I wrote this so suck my dick"[/I] - [B]Eminem, Under the Influence.[/B].
[I]"I'm using rubbers, so they won't trace the semen
The black demon, got the little hookers screamin' (whoo!)
Because you know I love it young, fresh and green
With no hair in between, know what I mean? (C'mon, I know what you mean)"[/I] - [B]The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong.[/B].
Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2833813]but taxis from the airport to Poblado cost 90,000 pesos ($21) in Colombia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2831069]There is a sign, where you pick up your luggage, that informs tourists how much the taxi is -- and yes it clearly states 98,000 COP if you want the car all to yourself (a shared ride is cheaper, if someone is found to share it with you).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2831057]On 6/1/23 it was 98 K. That has been the same price all year for me.[/QUOTE]My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2825806]ATMs are our friends.[/QUOTE]ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2825798]Most people use an ATM in the airport to get taxi money.[/QUOTE]Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
[QUOTE=RainCity206;2825742]Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread. Official taxi from MDE are 90 k and that includes tolls as the airport is something like a 45 min away from the actual city.[/QUOTE]I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
[QUOTE=RainCity206;2825742]Have you considered using a schwabb checking account or capital one checking account and using the debit card (no no fees from these banks) to withdraw money instead of exchanging actual currency?[/QUOTE]I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
[QUOTE=RainCity206;2825742]Also, you should try guarapo (cane juice with lime in it. Similar to our united states lemonade, but much better) and bandeja paisa (a meal with a little bit of everything on the plate. It originated in this area). Have fun.[/QUOTE]I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2834109]I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).
What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control
25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?
that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planet[/QUOTE]The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2834343]The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.[/QUOTE]Being drugged is not something I worry about when I visit Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. So that adds an element of danger that does not exist in those other countries. Some guys just brush it off and ignore it but it is something you need to be aware of. I have some friends who refuse to come to Columbia for that reason and their belief is that you should not risk your life for pussy. They are perfectly content with those other countries and I do not try to defend safety of Colombia because I cannot. But if you take precautions and are aware of your surroundings, you can avoid being a victim of crime. Along with being drugged, there is also the danger of being robbed on the streets.
So far I have not been a victim of crime but I've been taking precautions as should we all.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2834207]Gents, help out a newbie please. What is a good venue by Parque Lleras to have a beer and watch the lleras girls walking by until I see one of my likings? Some venues seem to over charge based on google reviews. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's a lot easier when you get there. There are a ton of tables on the street now. Sit at an empty one and order a beer. But if you want something mapable, the LICOEXPRESS on the corner of Cra. 40 and Calle 9 A is a popular easy place to sit and chill. But once you are there you will realize you've got dozens of sitting places to chill.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2834109]I've lost track how many visits I've made here [/QUOTE]Right, because it's impossible to count to zero. It's been well established that you've never been to Colombia.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834314]But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price.[/QUOTE]I've arrived 7+ times in the last two years, mid-day, evening, etc. Never experienced this. Just walk up to the white cabs, jump into the next one on duty, mumble "Voy a Poblado, cien mil, no?" and the guy nods and we are off. Never had anyone suggest anything different. I did have one guy confirm that I wanted to take the tunnel, and I did have one guy that I wasn't sure if he was going to take the tunnel so I clarified "por el tunel por favor".
[QUOTE]I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.[/QUOTE]I usually do 10-15 minutes to check-in (gate line), then 10-15 minute walk through security, then the painful 30+ minute wait for immigration, then I'm in. Never taken more than an hour, though that immigration line has made it feel longer. Usually then head to one of the lounges (the 2nd one behind the 1st one is always quieter with better service) and hang out until flight time.
[QUOTE]ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.[/QUOTE]Never accept the exchange rate of an ATM! Always decline it and you will get the very good exchange rate of your ATM card (or credit card if using that). If you use one that charges a transaction fee, try to use a card that will reimburse you (seems you already are). ATMs are definitely your friend. Davivienda remains my favorite, but Occidental has worked for me in a pinch. Since they let me take out 2 MIL COP at a time.
I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2834367]Right, because it's impossible to count to zero. It's been well established that you've never been to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I'm quite unimpressed by your low IQ and lame attempt to deflect from the question at hand.
POST SCRIPT next time don't forget to include the equally lame, "they are in their mommys basement typing away" you must be so intelligent, so unique.
BRAVO BRAVO! ENCORE POR FAVOR.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2834343]The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.[/QUOTE]Well it doesn't say either way.
But I seriously doubt they were little old ladies doing tours of the Botero statues or the flower festival in Santa Elena.
25 is YUGE in 10 months.
Name another city any city in the world losing that many "tourists" to murder each year? Not to mention how tiny Medellin is.
In most places its the putas getting killed.
Not the mongers WTF is going on.
[URL]https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/serial-killer-suspect-arrested-california-18191143.php[/URL]
I try to keep my distance from the stoopid.
Stoopid people attract danger and I don't want to be in the same proximity.
Its like walking thru the hood.
They can be shooting at someone else and get you.
Stoopid is as stoopid does.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2834343]The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.[/QUOTE]Dudes need to quit bringing chicks back to the same rooms they keep all their shit in. Especially if it is the first time you have met this girl.
You must always decline the conversion rate offer to avoid getting hosed at the ATMs. Search the forum for ATM for further details. You should also decline any ride offers from drivers who are not operating the white taxis with a blue stripe down their sides. Those are the taxis that charge the rate you see posted in the arrivals area of the airport. By the way, that rate is government regulated and only changes in January. I think I remember you refuse to use uber, didi, or indriver. Those are also good options that are rarely more than the regulated rate and often less. There is a 24 hour bus service that costs 14,000 pesos.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834314]Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carrib;2834481]Just finished another trip in Medellin and it is getting a bit harder to find really good Chicas at decent prices because some of you insist on overpaying these Chicas instead of politely telling them NO when they quote in USD instead of pesos.
Can you find a chica for less than 150 USD at Gustos and clubs nearby? YES and they are good looking.
I went to this club right across from Gustos named GLOW VIP, the chicas in there were nicely dressed and my homie took one out for 120 USD or 450 K Pesos. After our stint in GLow, he took his girl home and I walked over to Gustos, and the Chicas in there were less attractive than those from GLOW, it was packed but I was able to find a table near the entrance and simply sat and observed -first Chica that caught my eye was a fake blonde and I simply asked her how much? 300 dlares - LOL, no gracias mami and she walked off. A brunette parked her ass right front of me (see pic in white), finally motioned her over and we started a convo, brought her a drink and we agreed on 450 k pesos, the body was at least 8 (to me, Chicas bodies get a plus 1 rating if they have a phat ass lol) and face was really cute. That's the most I have paid for a chic thus far in medellin, just think if you can get a 10 at Loutron for 400 k pesos, talk to her get her number why would you pay more for a lesser looking chic at Gustos? Try to talk to the chick, make some sort of connection, don't be an asshole and you might save hundreds of thousands of pesos.
Are there chics asking for 300 USD and not budging, of course but there are plenty more not willing to go home empty handed. Do you Chica proof your apt before allowing a random prostitute inside? Secure all your valuables, stay in a secure building where they take their ID and pics and call you before she leaves to make sure you weren't drugged? Gustos Chica was told to go back to my apt and get me because I missed the phone call from security when she tried to leave.
Small edit-When I went to SPA Energy, I encountered a few younger mongers, I tried to say hello and dude just mumbled something and looked straight down, never looked back at me LOOOL, if u are reading this my young bro its OK, I guess u were embarrassed that I saw u there? NO need, its cool and to each his own LOOLLL :-)
I went to OCI.MDE and they have a sign that says "NO to SEX tourism!" It appears that some of you have been bringing these hoodrat looking hoes to fine dining establishments LOL.
PS against my better wishes, I have added a face pic of one of the Chicas I banged and NO she didnt cost me 300 USD. If one of you breaks the fucking code and go blab to this Chica, I wont post anymore pics. All of the chics I banged were on her level or MUCH better, paid btw 300-450K (max) for all of the chics. I would rather become a Loutron houserat before I pay a fucking avg chic 300 USD at Gustos[/QUOTE]OCI has had that sign for a long time.
And I've stated before many idiots and yes this is an idiot who are bringing down bello hoodrats for steak and lobster and treating them like absolute princesses.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834314]
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. [/QUOTE]There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.
The fare is 98 K to Poblado, and higher rates for further outlying cities like Envigado. I don't know where you where going but it sounds as though the cab driver added the 20,600 K tunnel fare "peaje" to your fare assuming you would assume that it was an additional.
Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go. However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.
Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.
This is what my experience has been.
[QUOTE=Tasss;2834261]I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? [/QUOTE]
If I'm not mistaken, it had been the Scotiabank Colpatria branches whose ATM's offered a good exchange rate with no fee (as opposed to the plain, "Colpatria"less Scotiabanks). When I was last in Medellin in March one could make four withdrawals of 900,000 each (3,600,000 total) at one go, with no fee. Have you been charged a fee at one of their banks? (I used the Scotiabank Colpatria branch on the second floor inside Exito Laureles on Carrera 81.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2834416]I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.[/QUOTE]There is oral gonorrhea, genital warts / hpv virus, syphilis, probably the last 2-3 mongers jizz.
And I'm sure there are at least few other things.
But other than that.
Bon Appetit.
Probably safer licking the shower floor of a truck stop that has never been cleaned.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.[/QUOTE]I believe you. I just have never seen it personally. Others have mentioned it.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go.[/QUOTE]From my location it is a consistent 90,000 COP to the airport. I like Poblado. I go there to eat breakfast on occasion. Otherwise I stay out of that area. I prefer El Centro.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.[/QUOTE]Since my usual flight schedule has me arriving "very late at night" that is the reason I have been given by the white cab drivers for the 120,000 COP rate to my spot.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.[/QUOTE]I have never timed clearing immigration in Medellin to leave only on arrival. And I can share with you that I arrived 2 hours early on my first trip to leave and almost missed by flight between airline check in and immigration and decided never again. Three hours early for me also.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]This is what my experience has been.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing. This is how I learn.
[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2834168]Why is $800 k too much for toda la noche?[/QUOTE]Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2834647]Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.[/QUOTE]I understand that rationale but you can also look at it this way. Depending on where you live, you probably spent an average of 600 to $700 to get here, for a week you paid probably $500 for your hotel. You're here to have a good time. You meet the hottest girl that you've ever seen and would ever been with and she tells you that she'll do everything that you want all night for $191 US which wouldn't even get you one hour with an escort in America. Now you will turn her down because of the theory that well that's the average monthly Colombian salary as if that matters to you. So you go home on that plane following this advice not having that experience with the hottest girl you've ever seen who do everything you want all night because of the principle that well it's a lot of money in Colombia although it's actually not a lot of money to me. You should be commended for your principles while another guy is having the time of his life and you can call him a simp.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2834494]You must always decline the conversion rate offer to avoid getting hosed at the ATMs. Search the forum for ATM for further details.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2834494]You should also decline any ride offers from drivers who are not operating the white taxis with a blue stripe down their sides. Those are the taxis that charge the rate you see posted in the arrivals area of the airport. By the way, that rate is government regulated and only changes in January.[/QUOTE]These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2834647]Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.[/QUOTE]And they don't even speak the same language, lmao.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2834714]I understand that rationale but you can also look at it this way. Depending on where you live, you probably spent an average of 600 to $700 to get here, for a week you paid probably $500 for your hotel. You're here to have a good time. You meet the hottest girl that you've ever seen and would ever been with and she tells you that she'll do everything that you want all night for $191 US which wouldn't even get you one hour with an escort in America. Now you will turn her down because of the theory that well that's the average monthly Colombian salary as if that matters to you. So you go home on that plane following this advice not having that experience with the hottest girl you've ever seen who do everything you want all night because of the principle that well it's a lot of money in Colombia although it's actually not a lot of money to me. You should be commended for your principles while another guy is having the time of his life and you can call him a simp.[/QUOTE]Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2834761]Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.[/QUOTE]Them 7's really got you gassed up. Mans feeling like John Gotti now.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834727]Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.[/QUOTE]I don't understand how it's a scam. The banks give you a choice of accepting or declining their conversion rate. Every ATM I've been to in Medellin that charges a fee gives you that information before your transaction is completed. The user has the option to cancel the transaction. I traveled to the Far East before the pandemic and many ATM's there were offering their own conversion rate.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834727]These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?[/QUOTE]The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2834779]
The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.[/QUOTE]What happened to me one night earlier this year I arrived very late, like after 1 AM and there was one white taxi out on the curb and the driver asked me where I was going and when I said Poblado, he said 120,000 Pesos. Since I was already a zombie after flying from California and my other options where limited, I decided to just pay the fucker the extra 22,000 Pesos.
As you mentioned there is a pricing list for the white cabs posted with the fares to various locations in and around Medellin. The fare to Poblado is posted at 98 K and as you mention should be in effect no matter what time of day, but unfortunately is not always abided by.
I think in some instances what the cab drivers are doing are adding the 20,600 Peso toll fare to the published fare hence asking for 120,000 Pesos which may be what some others have expereinced. So for others travelling during the day and early evening, when there are a bunch of cabs out they should just confirm that the 98 K or 100 K fare includes the tunnel toll which does.
And if a cab driver try's to pull that stunt on them I would report them, but probably a waste of time.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834727]Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?[/QUOTE]Just take the bus, problem and money solved.
The ATM conversion rate offers are unnecessarily confusing and it's intentional. It is showing up in more and more countries around Latin America. Besides Colombia, I've personally seen it in Dominican Republic and Brazil.
The bus and taxi rates have nothing to do with time of day. The uber / didi / indriver rates will of course vary according to demand and time of day. As I wrote previously, the ride share app rates are rarely as high as the taxi rate.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2834779]I don't understand how it's a scam. The banks give you a choice of accepting or declining their conversion rate. Every ATM I've been to in Medellin that charges a fee gives you that information before your transaction is completed. The user has the option to cancel the transaction. I traveled to the Far East before the pandemic and many ATM's there were offering their own conversion rate.
The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834727]Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?[/QUOTE]Information is power, my recommendation is to make it known to the drivers that you know the rate. If they insist then just use uber / didi / inddriver. You can also take the bus and avoid discussions altogether. All these services operate 24/7. I sometimes grab a ride share if there is a long line for the bus (usually late at night). It's pretty common worldwide that taxistas try to take advantage of people who aren't familiar with the rates or the trip routes. The yellow taxis at Bogota's El Dorado airport are notorious for it. I tell Colombians who complain to me about it to benchmark the fare on ride share or taxi (cabify, Coopebombas) apps, then plug your destination into a GPS app set to Spanish and pump up the volume. The app will immediately announce when the driver tries to deviagte from the route. They don't normally try anything once they realize you are aware enough to turn on GPS.
It can happen if you are really unlucky. It's pretty much a game of Russian roulette. It all depends on how many flights arrive near the time of your arrival. Normal unpredicatable arrival delays make it hard to schedule around busy times. I don't remember every spending an hour on the immigration line. I've heard of passengers with document problems being detained for long periods but that's another issue.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2834516]There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.
The fare is 98 K to Poblado, and higher rates for further outlying cities like Envigado. I don't know where you where going but it sounds as though the cab driver added the 20,600 K tunnel fare "peaje" to your fare assuming you would assume that it was an additional.
Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go. However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.
Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.
This is what my experience has been.[/QUOTE]
It's probably better to smoke a cigar or have a batida.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2834416]I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2834647]Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.[/QUOTE]You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP). In the US, the minimum salary varies in each state, from about 7. 25 USD / HR to 15-16 USD / HR (in very few states, like DC or California). $7. 25 at 40 hrs a week is "whopping" 1160 USD / month.
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.
1/10 of $3500 is $350. Can you get a hot girl to spend the night with you in the States for $350? I doubt it. But even if you can, the ratios are pretty much the same.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2834761]Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.[/QUOTE]Who says the person is broke or cheap because they do not pay more. How is there always a comparison, but where I am from? If you went to London and paid 2 times as much as it does back home in Alabama, would you holler but back home?
Avianca has always had 1 price for the rich foreigners but a different price for the broke ass cheap charlie local people. If you go onto the Colombian version of the website you can get the cheaper price without even being Colombian. Knowing this, why would you even brag that you purposely went on the foreign Avianca site to pay the higher price, because back home an airplane ride would cost more and you do not want to appear cheap or broke?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2834823]You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP).
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.[/QUOTE]You can dig even deeper and say well there is no Colombian person from the neighborhood she is from and with the education that she has making the AVERAGE. Pretty sure they are almost all making the minimum. But if she can get it, then why not.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2834647]Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.[/QUOTE]1. $200 isn't the average salary in Colombia, it's closer to $1 k / month.
2. $200 for all night and GFE with an 8+/10 Colombian hottie is a bargain, I'm also from a third world country and that's what the escorts charge for long time and the girls aren't anywhere near as hot as Colombians.
3. Hot Americans girls are like $1 k+/ HR, $5-10 k for the entire night is the going rate, atleast when you look at Tryst and Eros and other high end sites.
4. The same girls who charge $800 k cop for all night charge like $130-200 k cop for 1 HR, $800 k cop for 8+ hours is a bargain and I don't understand how you can think this is too expensive.
Minimum wage doesn't matter. Very few people work for 7. 25 with no tips. Popeyes near me pays 15.00 an hour to start. Medellin girls should ask for whatever they can get because they hit the wall fast. I've never had a girl in Colombia ask 200 dollars for an hour. She must not have wanted to go and shot high. 100 dollars all day. 500 k pesos can get any girl in gusto or park lleras. Unfortunately they are really weathered and older looking.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2834823]You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP). In the US, the minimum salary varies in each state, from about 7. 25 USD / HR to 15-16 USD / HR (in very few states, like DC or California). $7. 25 at 40 hrs a week is "whopping" 1160 USD / month.
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.
1/10 of $3500 is $350. Can you get a hot girl to spend the night with you in the States for $350? I doubt it. But even if you can, the ratios are pretty much the same.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, Google gives a wrong answer, $1100 is not the average salary in Colombia it is around $450 a month.
[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2834840]4. The same girls who charge $800 k cop for all night charge like $130-200 k cop for 1 HR, $800 k cop for 8+ hours is a bargain and I don't understand how you can think this is too expensive.[/QUOTE]It is only a bargain if you will be fucking her for 8 hours. If she is only sitting around and eating and helping you spend your money for 7 of the 8 hours, how could that be considered a bargain?
[QUOTE=Tasss;2834261]I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? Even though my card reimburses ATM fees, I feel their reimbursements are sometimes off and don't want to deal with it if possible.[/QUOTE]Yes, it appears to be true. I used the Scotia-Colpatria ATM at the Victoria Mall here in Pereira. Same fee. I and others have had issues with Davivienda.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2834827]You can dig even deeper and say well there is no Colombian person from the neighborhood she is from and with the education that she has making the AVERAGE. Pretty sure they are almost all making the minimum. But if she can get it, then why not.[/QUOTE]There is no need to dig deeper, because the ratios are still more or less the same. We got to compare apples to apples. If her neighbors are making the minimum, 300 USD, she gets 30-35% of that for TLN. In the States a girl can get 300-500 USD and up, and that would be the same percentage of the minimum wage.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2834803]The ATM conversion rate offers are unnecessarily confusing and it's intentional.[/QUOTE]I don't see anything confusing about the bank's conversion rate presented on the ATM. It's straight forward to me. If you want that rate, then accept it. If you don't want it, then decline it. Can you give an example of how it's confusing?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2834803]The bus and taxi rates have nothing to do with time of day. [/QUOTE]Why respond to my post and say the same thing using different words? As the moderator has stated a number of times, that's a waste of bandwidth.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2834812]It can happen if you are really unlucky. It's pretty much a game of Russian roulette. It all depends on how many flights arrive near the time of your arrival. Normal unpredicatable arrival delays make it hard to schedule around busy times. I don't remember every spending an hour on the immigration line. I've heard of passengers with document problems being detained for long periods but that's another issue.[/QUOTE]If you arrive 3 hours early, you'll fly through immigration and security, 15-20 minutes max.
If you arrive 30 minutes early, it will take a minimum of 20 minutes.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2834905]I don't see anything confusing about the bank's conversion rate presented on the ATM. It's straight forward to me. If you want that rate, then accept it. If you don't want it, then decline it. Can you give an example of how it's confusing?[/QUOTE]Because it seems that if you do not accept then you can not get money. How many people would push accept if the truth was printed on the screen? "Push this button to give us a $20 tip. " Not many people are savvy when it comes to currency exchange. If they were then the ones throughout USA airports would have all closed down by now.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2834893]There is no need to dig deeper, because the ratios are still more or less the same. We got to compare apples to apples. If her neighbors are making the minimum, 300 USD, she gets 30-35% of that for TLN. In the States a girl can get 300-500 USD and up, and that would be the same percentage of the minimum wage.[/QUOTE]The whole point is that you are not comparing apples to apples when you bring a random country into the discussion. The apples in country 1 (Colombia) have nothing to do with the apples in country 2 (USA). (Hell, you can not trust the apples of 2 cities in the same country to even be aligned.) Each country's apples have to stand on their own merit. If that was not the case one could easily ask why isn't the comparison made with Burkina Faso or Lichtenstein instead.
Because these boys be simpin'them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2834863]It is only a bargain if you will be fucking her for 8 hours. If she is only sitting around and eating and helping you spend your money for 7 of the 8 hours, how could that be considered a bargain?[/QUOTE]
Before you pay for pussy. As your GF if she ever hoed out before. A paisa is a paisa.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2834314]Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.[/QUOTE]
[B]800000 COP is over two thirds of my rent each month in Medellin![/B]
Think about that gentlemen. Being a high end prostitute pays well throughout the world. I addressed this in a post in another thread.
[QUOTE=Sun08;2834934]A while ago I posted about how to get taxi To and From airport and avoiding overcharge. You can make reservation from the official Airport taxi website or send them a message using whatsapp (+57 3137440680). Once you provide the Name, cell phone number, date, time and destination, you will receive a confirmation including the reservation number and the total cost.
[URL]https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/[/URL][/QUOTE]You sure did brother and you also hit me on the back channel about it. I appreciate that. Reading comprehension is bad in the Medellin thread. I have clearly stated that the problem is arriving at 2 AM at the airport when dealing with Taxis at the airport. I have had no problem with the price getting to the airport and I have already developed a relationship with a driver and all he does is airport runs. I will look into the private car service using the apps. I am not taking the mother fucking bus. I am simply not that poor. Besides I can pay 40000 COP for pussy in El Centro instead of paying 800000 COP for a high end prostitute and use the difference to pay the 30000 overcharge (7. 32 USD) I am consistently getting when I take a taxi from the airport. I will look for the sign and point to it so see if it makes any difference. [I]ROTFLMAO![/I].
Somebody challenged me that my posts are not related to "Sharing information on having sex with girls". After you arrive at the MDE you have to get to where you stay so you can have sex with girls no matter if you pay them or choose to put the work in and develop a relationship with one or many that is not completely based on money.
ATMs: You got to get cash to pay for your pussy. I have NEVER used anything else anywhere in the world my entire life to pay for pussy.
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2834935]Before you pay for pussy. As your GF if she ever hoed out before. A paisa is a paisa.[/QUOTE]First of all, pussy is never free, you pay for pussy with money or you pay for pussy with money, time, energy, emotional frustration and heart ache. LOL! My girlfriend hoes out. And she part of the money she earns she spends on me! No monthly maintenance fees.
Expand your mind. Most relationships are open. The difference is that most men are not man enough to admit it!
[I]I don't know what you heard about me
But a ***** can't get a dollar out of me
No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see
That I'm a motherfuckin' P.I.M.P.[/I] - [B]50 Cent, P.I.M.P.[/B].
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2835191]Thanks for this info Sun. Have you been able to arrange a taxi with them for late night pickup like midnight or 1 AM? That's the only time I have a problem with the white taxis wanting more than the official rate because there is no line of taxis waiting for customers at that hour.[/QUOTE]Are you telling me that you pointed to the sign with the official rate and they didn't immediately start apologizing and telling you: "[I]let me get the door for you massa. I gonna charge YOU da official rate massa. I don red or spell 2 gud massa?[/I]. ROTFLMAO!
For the record the two times I have quoted the fee of 120000 COP by half a dozen drivers it has been the exact situation that you describe. I routinely arrive after midnight. I don't write the airline flight schedules I just buy my ticket and be a the airport when they tell me to in order to board the flight so eat good, shop, use a ATM that is scamming and fuck my girlfriend in Medellin. [B]Every trip has been a good trip.[/B].
I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2835402]I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.[/QUOTE]Are you coming to Colombia or leaving. I had too many problems using the Check-mig for arrival so I paid on [URL]www.ivisa.com[/URL].
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2835402]I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.[/QUOTE]I tried using the App, and it couldn't find the site. I did a search and what looked like an official site came up, but then it came to a payment page. I backed out quickly. Next I went to the Migracion Colombia page.
[URL]Http://migracioncolombia.gov.co[/URL]
That got me to the form and I was able to fill it out. At the end, on the final click, it said it couldn't process the request. I backed up, tried again, same result. However, within seconds I received 2 email confirmations.
Don't know if that will help.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2835482]
That got me to the form and I was able to fill it out. At the end, on the final click, it said it couldn't process the request. I backed up, tried again, same result. However, within seconds I received 2 email confirmations.
[/QUOTE]I did it yesterday and got the same end point. It says that it didn't work but it had anyway. Really shltty slte. A government department should be ashamed to put visitors thru thls shlt.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2835460]Are you coming to Colombia or leaving. I had too many problems using the Check-mig for arrival so I paid on [URL]www.ivisa.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]I was leaving. I ending up doing what Jjbee62 described (search for check-mig Colombia). When I filled it out in English, it got to a point and said it couldn't finish. I tried both as a frequent traveler and as a normal traveler. I then tried filling it out in Spanish as a normal traveler, and it completed. I also left the arriving city as the default. I don't know if that had any bearing.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2835793]I was leaving. I ending up doing what Jjbee62 described (search for check-mig Colombia). When I filled it out in English, it got to a point and said it couldn't finish. I tried both as a frequent traveler and as a normal traveler. I then tried filling it out in Spanish as a normal traveler, and it completed. I also left the arriving city as the default. I don't know if that had any bearing.[/QUOTE]From the WTF division of Migracion Colombia, yesterday I did my CheckMig to leave, through the website and everything worked exactly the way it's supposed to work. Maybe they finally figured it out. Probably not.
Never had any problems with Check mig before, maybe a slow loading page at most.
Flew out of palonegro international yesterday through avianca, filled out the form the previous day, they didn't even ask for it.
And for anyone else seeing this, the paid check mig is a scam. Do not pay money for that LOL.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2835656]I did it yesterday and got the same end point. It says that it didn't work but it had anyway. Really shltty slte. A government department should be ashamed to put visitors thru thls shlt.[/QUOTE]I was 3 out of 4 with check MIG my last two trips. I flew American into Colombia and showed them the site was down, and they shocked me and handed me a paper copy I could use in place of check MIG. I never saw that before. LOL. I later tried the check MIG while in the Bogota customs line and the site then worked. Who the fuck knows why? The funny part is no one in Colombia asked for it.
Bogota customs line was 45 minutes in line coming in, and Cartagena was 20 minutes going out this time.
I was with a fellow traveler who had all the perks I knew. He used the VIP lane with Spirit like I did. He went to the Priority Pass lounge like I did and got free food like I did, but the one thing he had me beat on is that he had an expedited way through Colombian customs. This was for foreigners not Colombians. It was no big deal as the regular customs lines were short. I was just curious if anyone knew anything about that.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2837141]I was with a fellow traveler who had all the perks I knew. He used the VIP lane with Spirit like I did. He went to the Priority Pass lounge like I did and got free food like I did, but the one thing he had me beat on is that he had an expedited way through Colombian customs. This was for foreigners not Colombians. It was no big deal as the regular customs lines were short. I was just curious if anyone knew anything about that.[/QUOTE]It is called Biomig. I posted about it last month in the general thread.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826019]Biomig is now available for foreigners leaving the country out of Bogota.
[URL]https://www.opain.co/page/comunicados/comunicadosdetalle?id=4271[/URL][/QUOTE]
In my opinion there is such a thing as a non-pro. It means that you have to date her. Give her BFE and she gives your GFE. The relationship is not based on money alone. And don't give me that [I]shit[/I] about this being a exclusive Forum about prostitutes. It is not. It is a Forum to share information on having sex with girls.
The description I gave are the type of relationships that I have focused on since I left the (Dis) United States of America. They exist and I have had them. And I don't give a fuck what anyone says about my posts about them.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2837228]No such thing as a non pro. If she'll see you she's a pro. As for anal. Ask how much, and if it's available she'll say a number. Go from there.[/QUOTE]
Anyone have air bnb recommendations for 3 people. Looking for a nicer house.
So I'm taking the dive and heading to Medellin next week. I've done Cuba and cdmx with pretty good success but I'm looking for advice. Airbnb over hotel? I'm leaning towards Poblado or Laureles areas. I'm planning on 11 or 12 days, for the most part is that too long in Med? Upgrading membership today so I can get DM's on here. If anyone is going to be there during those time and wants to help a bro out it would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2837248]In my opinion there is such a thing as a non-pro. It means that you have to date her. Give her BFE and she gives your GFE. The relationship is not based on money alone. And don't give me that [I]shit[/I] about this being a exclusive Forum about prostitutes. It is not. It is a Forum to share information on having sex with girls.
The description I gave are the type of relationships that I have focused on since I left the (Dis) United States of America. They exist and I have had them. And I don't give a fuck what anyone says about my posts about them.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are not money related. Great.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999]Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are not money related. Great.[/QUOTE]You have thrown out your opinion before kand it sort of mirrors MiamiChild. Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
So, I don't know you. Are you old? (not so important) are you gross looking (I. E. Fat, bad dental hygiene, drop-dead ugly) can you speak Spanish? Are you cheap as hell? You'll answer those questions for yourself. But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies. You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
Now to be fair. If you are mid-60's you might not get to date mid-20's girls. It isn't that it would have to be about money but you would have absolutely nothing in common and one or the both of you would get bored in a New York minute. But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999]Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are [b]not money related[/b]. Great.[/QUOTE]You are ok and I am ok. And your experiences cannot be invalidated by mine. We are all speaking from our point of view, unless we are dealing in facts. Like who can or cannot use BioMag. In my opinion, your post leaves a lot open to interpretation. And that is good. I appreciate that you shared your insights. That is how I learn. And that is one of the two reasons I read and participate in ISG.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999] But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money.[/QUOTE]Here is my interpretation of your post: [I]At my age I am not interested in any woman in Colombia that would date me for something other than money. [/I] In other words, the girls you are interested in having sex with, are probably not interested in having sex with you for reasons other than money. Now if that is a incorrect reading, please put me in check.
I am not trying to get into your business, but someone like me (who happens to be pushing 60) has a long time girlfriend that is 34 and a new friend with benefits that is 21. Do they see me for money? You have to ask them.
But with my long time girlfriend I happen to KNOW without a doubt it is not about money. With my new young friend with benefits it remains to be seen. What I do know is that in my country of origin no girls of that age would even look at me from the side. That is the nature of my culture and I am happy to have found a culture where I am relevant again within the sexual marketplace without money being the main motivator. Additional fact, I can fuck girl younger than me in my country of origin with money being a motivating factor, but only at stratospheric amounts compared to my favorite countries to live and visit.
For me the real question is: [I]Is your partner motivated solely or primarily for the money[/I]? Did you discuss the money up front? Have you ever told her that you cannot give her money and does she still have sex with you? Those are the questions everyone must ask themselves if they are concerned with that sort of thing. And I can tell you most assuredly that I am not. If individuals are just worried about busting a nut, then why all the self introspection? Men with real self awareness do not have to ask those questions. They know when a girl is fucking them for money and when they are not. How do they know? They can feel it. To quote my biggest hater out there "There is a big difference between when a girl is sucking your dick because she wants to and one that you are paying to do it". I don't agree with that mother fucker much, but I give credit where credit is due. And he is right. There are levels to it. And if your are perceptive you know the difference. [B]You can FEEL the difference[/B].
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999] Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, the concept of a girl friend experience is fake unless she is a real girl friend. You may get certain sexual services that you like. But you are paying for them. She is not kissing you because she actually likes you. You are paying her to kiss you. Yes, she is playing a role for you because she is getting paid. Porn stars and actresses on the big screen do that. It is fake. That is why people speak having girl friend experiences and I speak about girl friends.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999] Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money?[/QUOTE]Dam straight my experiences are different because I don't lead with money. At my age I have had enough pussy so that is not my main focus. I got plenty of pussy in my home country and all over the world without leading with money as young to middle age man and did not even bring money into the picture until I was 50 years old. That is why I feel sorry for the individuals that want to call me old and yet they are flying to Colombia and paying for their hotel room, their food, their pussy and yet they are young men. And on top of that they want to argue with each other over beauty standards and brag about paying attractive prostitutes to have sex with them. As if that was some sort of achievement. GTF! I do not have to ask myself would it have happened without money in the cases where money is after the fact instead of before in the normal prostitute situation.
I spend time with the girls that have an interest in that goes beyond sex. And I ask, no I require that they bring more to the table in my life than their pussy. Others may or may not want that. [B]Man Law 101[/B] does not allow me to comment on how any other real man runs his life. No man ought to be telling another man, who they should be fucking, how to spend their money or worrying about about a dick other than their own.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2840999]If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.[/QUOTE]Real men don't give a fuck about that shit! After you bust a nut, are you really in the sex fog asking yourself those questions? I am not. And I don't give a fuck. I am enjoying, the pillow talk. Looking at the beautiful feminine form close to me. Thinking about the questions you listed after sex is like taking about world peace after putting smoke in the air. It messes up your buzz.
Example, my new friend with benefits actually discussed the nature of our relationship in the pre sex conversation. She stated up front that she was NOT looking for a boyfriend. That meant to me: "I'm cool with fucking you old man as long as nobody finds out I'm doing this shit". There was no money discussed. Until we were on the bed and she still had her clothes on and sexy heels on. Then the discussion was had about the expenses she needed to fund her birthday. She started high but then quickly stated that I didn't have to give her all the she needed for her birthday. I literally told her that we didn't have do do anything she didn't want. That if she did not want to have sex with me I was not going to pay her to do so. Her next response was to ask if I had condoms. And it was on from that point. Was the encounter based on money? Ask her. Because I can tell you that I don't give a fuck what you or ANYONE else posting here thinks. I did not ask the question after we [B]BOTH[/B] got our nut. Natural wetness cannot be faked nor that pre and post orgasmic glow.
I will tell you [B]Mr. Zeos[/B] that I am enjoying this classic discussion. It will never be resolved here. But I can tell you I have resolved it in my own mind. And when I bust my nut, my dick does not give a fuck. I am having too much fun to be worried about money. [B]The most money ever paid to fuck was paid to my first ex-wife[/B]. Anyone who has been married going to tell me that is a relationship that is not money related. GTF!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2841088]Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and [b]not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies[/b]. [u]You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.[/u]
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.[/QUOTE]Mr. Villainy is dead on point with this post. I will only add the following:
Money is just paper that is not intrinsically worth anything anyway. My thoughts is I may as well give it away to someone in need that is doing something valuable for me in real life. And I plan to die broke. My last check is going to be to my undertaker and it is going to bounce. LOL!
[QUOTE=Villainy;2841088]You have thrown out your opinion before kand it sort of mirrors MiamiChild. Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
So, I don't know you. Are you old? (not so important) are you gross looking (I. E. Fat, bad dental hygiene, drop-dead ugly) can you speak Spanish? Are you cheap as hell? You'll answer those questions for yourself. But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies. You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
Now to be fair. If you are mid-60's you might not get to date mid-20's girls. It isn't that it would have to be about money but you would have absolutely nothing in common and one or the both of you would get bored in a New York minute. But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.[/QUOTE]Fair responses and I appreciate them. I am in my low 70's. I am fit, been told I am attractive, I communicate reasonably well in Spanish, and I am single. Divorced. I have been in a relationship where I don't doubt that the gal liked me, and certainly there was sexual chemistry for both of us. But she was not really interested in a future together other than one that looked a lot like a ho-customer relationship. So it was a bit hard for me to figure it out. I was ready to make her the one and only and help her along the way for a while, but I realized I was basically just a client, albeit an important one financially for a time. I don't particularly regret having helped her along the way as the money part is transient and I can't take it with me, and in a way I don't think she really set out to rip me off. She never really made any future suggestions nor would she even respond to hints that I might like a future together. I just think she was in a position where she saw she could only lose my support by telling me that she was not really keen on a future together, and she was also not keen on losing her support of other patrons and customers. And I can't really blame her for that. Anyway. I'll be fine.
But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2841490]For me the real question is: [I]Is your partner motivated solely or primarily for the money[/I]? [/QUOTE]The only people this is a question for are people that give their partners money. It amazes me what seems the amount of people that have never had a normal relationship where money was not involved. If a person can not see the difference between going to Hooters and ordering a meal for which they pay plus tip afterwards and going to their buddy's house when his wife has cooked Sunday dinner and going home without leaving "taxi money," then there is no hope.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2841490]Men with real self awareness do not have to ask those questions. They know when a girl is fucking them for money and when they are not. How do they know?[/QUOTE]Because if he is not giving her money then she is not there.
I guess there is a lifestyle for everyone to live. I have never lived one where I saw it essential to give a woman money if I wanted to have a woman. Yesterday I was joking with a chick that I mess with in Colombia. I told her that she never has time for me. She said you know I had to work all the time when I was living in Bogota, but I came to you the little time I had between work. She then said well if you want to take care of me then I will have more time for you and I will do whatever you say. I told her that I was neither interested in taking care of a grown woman or controlling one. I know that is some guys' thing, just has never been anything I had the desire or need to do when dealing with the opposite sex.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2841631]Fair responses and I appreciate them. I am in my low 70's. I am fit, been told I am attractive, I communicate reasonably well in Spanish, and I am single. Divorced. I have been in a relationship where I don't doubt that the gal liked me, and certainly there was sexual chemistry for both of us. But she was not really interested in a future together other than one that looked a lot like a ho-customer relationship. So it was a bit hard for me to figure it out. I was ready to make her the one and only and help her along the way for a while, but I realized I was basically just a client, albeit an important one financially for a time. I don't particularly regret having helped her along the way as the money part is transient and I can't take it with me, and in a way I don't think she really set out to rip me off. She never really made any future suggestions nor would she even respond to hints that I might like a future together. I just think she was in a position where she saw she could only lose my support by telling me that she was not really keen on a future together, and she was also not keen on losing her support of other patrons and customers. And I can't really blame her for that. Anyway. I'll be fine.
But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.[/QUOTE]Allow me to share a few other insights. First of all the woman you were "dating" was worried about losing the support of other patrons and customers. So, I think we can safely say she is a "pro" (a woman who makes her living renting her body") as opposed to a semi-pro who is far more selective and has a job or other support (possibly family) and only sees men she either likes or is attracted to and does this to augment her income. A non-pro is a little more nebulous. She might have friends who are semi-pros and she is emboldened to try it herself. She doesn't know what to do or how to do it or any of that. A good portion of the time she sees a man as a good provider, and a good person and she is interested in dating him. Sure she would like his help from time to time when she needs it but that is kind of normal in society. The fact that he might be older isn't really that important. After all her cousin Maria Camila (there are at least 500,000 Maria Camilas) married a widower who was 40 years older than her and they are happy together. (he is Colombian BTW).
I have a friend who lives here. He is mid-70's in decent shape and not exactly a Sean Connery look alike. He started dating Colombian women but chose women who were in their late 30's and 40's. He found that a number of these women are still very attractive (in other words they took care of themselves) and culturally they are the forgotten ones. Women who hit 30 are kind of supposed to be married or permanently off the market. Since Colombian men like their women young and beautiful these women aren't getting a lot of attention and my friend was scoring up more dates than he could handle. He found a woman in her late 40's and they have been together over 2 years now. She works and they are together most evenings and weekends. Might not be what you were thinking of for yourself but just a thought that bears consideration.
One other tidbit. Colombian women (especially paisas) are disinclined to tell you "NO" if you ask something that they don't really want to be involved with. The standard responses are: (A) Just ignore the question / offer and maybe he will forget it too. (B) Say "Yes" to be agreeable but she won't follow through at all and will stall or resist if you bring it up again.
Saying "NO" is by far the rarest response in the situation I mentioned. She would have to have a strong personality or be very confident in her 'grip' on your friendship (manhood jajaja). It just isn't their custom to respond negatively to a request.
Oddly enough, she absolutely will NOT see it the same way in the other direction. If you tell her you will do something she will verbally beat the living sh*t out of you if you don't live up to your promise.
I hope those insights are either of value or at least interesting.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2841631]But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. [b]They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them[/b]. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.[/QUOTE]I am in 100% agreement with you on this. I have had this exact discussion with many girls. And they say the exact same thing. They don't want to be owned. In my experiences all relationships last only as long as both people get up and say yes. The moment one person says no, the relationship ends. Girls in the 20's still have hope. As they approach 25 -27 they start getting desperate to find their mate (as defined by the society they are in). After that they are washed up. They have tried for the approved societal relationships and failed to achieve them. Or they didn't last. Now they are being practical. That is why I ask girls I am interested in what their objectives are. I have just as much right as they do to reject them if they are not looking for the same type of relationship I am.
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[B]Marriage[/B]: the relationship sanctioned by every society in the world. Involves the man giving money to the girl (with a few exceptions). I live in the reality of the real world. Not a fantasy world. And I will just leave it at that. Lastly, I do not care how anyone posting on this board get their girls. But money is involved. You can count on it!
Let's say I take a girl on vacation. I pay for the entire vacation. We have sex during the vacation. Was that free sex? Or was that paid sex? Enquiring minds want to know.
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.
[QUOTE=Rover2;2843177]New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate? Is this something special kind of code? Why are you hanging out for hours at New Life to verify that "guys of a certain persuasion" are hanging out there for hours? What does "of a certain persuasion" even mean? And if you're just there to get laid, why do you care what other people are doing in the waiting area? Go in, get a lineup, pick a girl and go get laid.
New Life, along with most of the better known casas have long been places where you were likely to encounter noisy foreigners. Many of the regular casa visitors avoid New Life because it seems to be the goto for the newbies.
[QUOTE=Rover2;2843177]New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.[/QUOTE]It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways. Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2843316]It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
[b]I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways.[/b] Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.[/QUOTE]Let me ask you a question JC: Have you ever complained to anyone that can actually do something about the problems you outline here? Like call the police? Report them to your landlord? Report them to building security? Confront them directly like a real man? Since they are your brothers even if you don't get along with your family you should be able to talk to them. LOL!
I don't have those sorts of problems in the building I stay in when I am in Medellin near any of the many apartments I have available to me. Maybe I am just operating on a higher level even though I am new to Medellin?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2843407]Let me ask you a question JC: Have you ever complained to anyone that can actually do something about the problems you outline here? Like call the police? Report them to your landlord? Report them to building security? Confront them directly like a real man? Since they are your brothers even if you don't get along with your family you should be able to talk to them. LOL!
I don't have those sorts of problems in the building I stay in when I am in Medellin near any of the many apartments I have available to me. Maybe I am just operating on a higher level even though I am new to Medellin?[/QUOTE]Right, like I'm going to crawl out of my bed in the middle of the night, light up the place, dress up, and go out to get into arguments with bunch of obnoxious drunks. No thanks, good luck getting back to sleep after that. Sleep is my priority. After they informed everyone about their achievements and how great they are I was able to get back to my slumber anyway.
I'm sure if I was pissed enough it would provide a good motivation to do all that, but all arguments I have at my place is a broom stick at this point anyway.
But it thank my lucky starts they moved out right after that and it's back to normal since. Never been a problem with other airbb residents that stayed in the building somehow. Although they haven't probably been a sex tourists party types (got to start my own 'no sex tourists welcome' poster campaign in the building I guess LOL). But if it would be a repeated pattern of interruption of my sleep then you can bet your ass I'd try to do something about it, since I really really (really) hate not getting my sleep, whole damn day ruined.
As for all the 'bros' in my previous post I was paraphrasing how they talked to eachother.
And to think I held the front door open one of them to help move in his bags, we chatted a bit and he seemed cool and didn't even 'bro'd' me much. Must be a group situation that changes all that. Well next time I'll try to hold the door shut.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2843316]It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways. Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.[/QUOTE]Yes it is always the same sh-t conversation all day long "how dangerous their hood is". Why they think anyone gives a sh-t or why they feel compelled to announce it to the world all day everyday will remain one of lifes mysteries.
You don't have to be their for hours to know they are because every time you go they are there.
It gets tiring real quick for both customers and chicas having to ask them to repeat their names because the hyenas are talking and laughing so loud.
Chicas are now complaining about it because every time they line up and present themselves these dudes think they are there because they want to talk to them.
Incredible.
[QUOTE=Rover2;2843177]New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.[/QUOTE]Never had that problem at New Life and hope to never encounter that.
If a girl is going to the salon and asks you what color you want for her nails, that is respect! And mutual respect is the base of all quality relationships.
[QUOTE=Rover2;2843177]New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.[/QUOTE]Ask Walmart Walgreens cvs and all the other places that have to close now because of their retail theft.
TTM, I was trying to send you a private message but it says your inbox is full, so I'm going to copy and paste the message here in hopes that you see it LOL:
I know this is probably a long shot, but would you happen to be the same tall dude with gray hair that I met a couple times on separate occasions a year or two apart while having breakfast at the little hole in the wall breakfast place in Tijuana on Calle 4 ta and Revolution?
I know it's probably not you, but I've been wondering. I forget the guy's name but he always use to tell me about Colombia and Medellin and how it was so much better than Mexico LOL. This was like in 2016-17 ish while I was living in Tijuana before I started coming to Colombia.
Anyways if it's not you, my apologies.
I'm currently in Bogota but I'm going to head out either tonight or early tomorrow to check out the street meat in Pereira and then back home to Medellin.
Gabacho.
Hey guys first time going to MDE and CTG and have been reading a lot, but still had some curiosities.
I have read some guys post about these IG girls, and known models that usually ask 800 K to 1 million COP to see them.
Basically what's the best approach to find such girls? And has anybody had direct experience like this?
I'm willing to go quality over quantity so I want to make sure I know the possibilities.
Also how is mileroticos vs going to La Islas or Fase Dos -- I've tried to get some facebook activity going, but honestly so many profiles seems fake, not sure if that's the best route.
I whatsapped through a couple listings on mileroticos and was provided a simple menu of what's on the table. 320 K for "domicilio" which I assume is at my hotel.
Thanks for any help and feel free to inbox me!
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2848715]TTM, I was trying to send you a private message but it says your inbox is full, so I'm going to copy and paste the message here in hopes that you see it LOL:
I know this is probably a long shot, but would you happen to be the same tall dude with gray hair that I met a couple times on separate occasions a year or two apart while having breakfast at the little hole in the wall breakfast place in Tijuana on Calle 4 ta and Revolution?
I know it's probably not you, but I've been wondering. I forget the guy's name but he always use to tell me about Colombia and Medellin and how it was so much better than Mexico LOL. This was like in 2016-17 ish while I was living in Tijuana before I started coming to Colombia.
Anyways if it's not you, my apologies.
I'm currently in Bogota but I'm going to head out either tonight or early tomorrow to check out the street meat in Pereira and then back home to Medellin.
Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Nope not me. Regards my PM, I have been a regular poster on these boards for over a decade but have given up trying to reinstate my paid sub, so PM does not work.
Also I do live in Medellin and have so many chicas both pro and UTR and civvies that I simply don't need or am on these forums much at all anymore, perhaps once a month, and it's a shame as I travel to every city in Colombia and know all the spots.
Regards Tijuana, it was my twice monthly hang out place from about 1997 through 2007 then every other month up until 2014 then my last visit was a few years ago, oh the memories some of which I will take to my grave, hehehe.
TTM.
This is a better thread for this discussion.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2853697]Nah you can't deny that quality has taken quite a hit over the last few years. I don't believe that it's because of rich oil sheiks buying up all girls LOL, although there's some truth there of course, mobility has gone up so girls can easily travel to Dubai and make 10 x more than what they make in Medellin.
But the MAIN reason is much simpler: Onlyfans. This platform is at least partly the problem. Normally one of the biggest factors determining your salary is the country you're in. A top doctor in Medellin doesn't even come close to what a top doctor in Dubai makes, just because they're working in different countries. However Onlyfans totally changed this, all of a sudden it doesn't matter anymore if you're from Dubai or Medellin, the hotter you are the more you make. So this makes it extremely interesting for hot girls from poorer countries. A hot girl can't make 100 k usd / month working at Parque Lleras. But they can with Onlyfans. Not saying this explains all of it, there are of course tons of girls not willing to make internet porn for obvious reasons. But it surely is a very important factor for the quality decrease over the last few years. Girls don't even need to have sex with total strangers anymore, they can make much more putting some rubber dildo in their asses in front of a webcam. Of course this is very tempting to quite a few and hence the increased popularity of this platform correlates with the decrease on the streets in Medellin, of that I'm sure.[/QUOTE]The average quality that I've experienced over the past few years has increased. However, that's because I've been doing things differently over the past few years. If I still did things the same way, went to the same spots and didn't try to improve things, the outcome may have been different.
Around 10 years ago the webcam explosion hit Colombia. 3-4 years ago the livestream and TikTok craze hit. OnlyFans is more recent, but before that Pornhub and others were providing the same options. All those things have a relatively small impact on the prostitution options. First some background, then I'll explain.
I spent a year working with webcam studios and models in Medellin. For most of the year my roommate was a successful webcam model (and she still is a successful model). For the record, there are probably less than 500 women in the world making $100 k per month on webcam, Onlyfans or any other adult online service and none of them went from street hooker to porn royalty.
The reason why webcam, TikTok and Onlyfans all have only a small impact is simple. They all require a work ethic.
Providing online content, adult or not, requires a lot of work. It's not something you can just do whenever you need money. With webcam, it takes a minimum of 6 weeks, 4-8 hours per day, 6 days a week, to start making any money. Usually it takes another 2 months to earn enough to start making a decent income.
Very few prostitutes have the drive to devote 3-4 months to the job. I know. I tried to explain it to them. They want to get paid, cash, after each show. That's the hooker mindset.
However, with cheap phones, the hookers have other options. Why hangout on the street when you can find better paying customers online?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2853805]...there are probably less than 500 women in the world making $100 k per month on webcam, Onlyfans or any other adult online service... [/QUOTE]100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2853958]100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.[/QUOTE]So the $ symbol referred to pesos many centuries before it referred to dollars.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2854060]So the $ symbol referred to pesos many centuries before it referred to dollars.[/QUOTE]Most of us weren't alive many centuries before the $ symbol was used to refer to dollars.
Also, pretty sure any girl working Parque Lleras can clear 100 k pesos per month.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2853958]100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.[/QUOTE]Sure. Except in all but a very few cases the girl will need to work her ass off for 6 months or more before she makes $2 k per month.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2854180]Most of us weren't alive many centuries before the $ symbol was used to refer to dollars.
Also, pretty sure any girl working Parque Lleras can clear 100 k pesos per month.[/QUOTE]Well, are you alive now? Because $ still refers to pesos, as well as dollars.
Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.
[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2884607]Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. If you're coming in from another city in Colombia, then you might be in luck, unless that city is Cartagena. EOH is only for domestic flights.
[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2884607]Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.[/QUOTE]My buddy did recently and he loves it. He bought tickets from Bogota on that new airline.
[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2884607]Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.[/QUOTE]Yes I have used that airport a few times. I like the fact that I can get there on the metro just hop off at the Poblado station and it's about a 15 to 20 minute walk to the airport.
I used it when I went to Armenia and also when I went to Cali.
They only have smaller turbo prop airplanes there. The small ones that only seat about 20 people. The airline I always used going thru there was called EasyFly (it's called Clic now).
The terminal is very small but there is a Juan Valdez coffee inside there and when you board the flights you actually have to go outside. I always thought of it as an adventure.
They have flights to different regional airports in smaller towns that MDE doesn't offer so that's a plus if you want to fly into some small pueblo to explore the real side of Colombia.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2884711]Good luck with that. If you're coming in from another city in Colombia, then you might be in luck, unless that city is Cartagena. EOH is only for domestic flights.[/QUOTE]Why good luck? I am coming domestic and I know it only does. Same price to fly to either EOH or MDE so why not skip the big airport and the extended taxi ride.
Great and thanks for the info and figured it was OK to come in there. I am on Clic from BOG after I stay in BOG for a few days. Prices for my travel were 89 MCO to BOG or 250 MCO to MDE. Cheaper to return from MDE then BOG so I needed to get to MDE at some point.
Anyone know where in El Poblado I can get this and what the current costs are? Yes I know I don't need it for Medellin, I will be living in Ecuador and its expensive and hard to get where I live in USA.
[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2885132]Anyone know where in El Poblado I can get this and what the current costs are? Yes I know I don't need it for Medellin, I will be living in Ecuador and its expensive and hard to get where I live in USA.[/QUOTE]I got mine for free at the Centro de Salud Guayabal.
Any recommendations for a good place for a massage non gringo priced in centro or elsewhere and is there still any action on Mayorista at night anymore or is that a thing of the past now?
[QUOTE=IAmThatGuy;2802390]Guys who use Insta, Facebook, how do you message girls on these apps? Are you direct with your intentions in the very first messages? Like do you tell them you are gringo and you straight out offer to bang them for $, or you do some small talk first?[/QUOTE]I use Tinder. Works great.
I tell them there pretty and look like my type.
Then I leave my WhatsApp (Colombian#.
They contact me on whatsApp and I have one little paragraph I use.
If they bite I have a second one.
I'm looking for gals who will do videos and I'm up front as I can be as it helps to avoid problems when they show up.
I have about 25+ that will take a cumshot to the face with 3 cameras pointing at them.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what. Any other place on the site for that?
I've spent 6 plus months down here over the last 15 months.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2933934]Last sentence in the first paragraph: "it only applies to New York's Eastern District".[/QUOTE]The law is in flux IMO but there is reason to be optimistic. There were these two lines: The ruling theoretically applies to land borders, seaports, and airports but in practice, it only applies to New York's Eastern District.
And this one; The ruling stems from a criminal case against Kurbonali Sultanov, a naturalized US citizen from Uzbekistan, who was ordered to hand his phone over to CBP after his name triggered an alert on the Treasury Enforcement Communications System identifying Sultanov as a potential purchaser or possessor of child sexual abuse material. Sultanov, who said the agents said he had no choice but to unlock his phone.
So the CBP agent did not want to fuck with this, and neither would I. The only way I would do that is if some other agency had a gun to my head like in this case.
A cop told me the most discouraging thing he was ever told by a criminal was, "Man, do we really got to do this? I will be out on bail before you are done with your fucking paperwork. " And he laughed because time and again, the criminals were right.
I think the border patrol agents do not want to deal with going through your phone. The law is gray, and It is a too much of a fucking hassle.
The biometric scanning and passport scanning is a huge plus, but it only applies to exits. Even then, it is half the number of stamps in your passport. Like most of their non-US countries, Colombia stamps passports both coming in and going out and that is a lot of stamps. My passport is now full, four years before expiration. What a pain. I need to apply for a new passport.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2931114]They waved me over to the biometrics machines instead of seeing a human immigration officer. You scan your passport, look at the camera and it's done. Relatively quick. The security lines were also relatively quick. Total time for me from waiting to check in at the airline to waiting at the gate was about half an hour. Not bad at all. But my next passport should last much longer.
So I did survive another trip without any druggings or robberies.
It was a good trip. I saw the type of girls that I wanted to see for the amount of money that I wanted to pay and I got the type of performance that I expected. All these factors are different for every guy. But if you could satisfy these three factors for yourself on a trip, whatever your criteria, it is a successful trip.
I will say an obvious point. My eighth trip was much better than my first trip. I have to laugh now at all the mistakes I made on my first trip. I think that will be the way it will be for most guys. Expect to make mistakes and learn from it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2934536]Like most of their non-US countries, Colombia stamps passports both coming in and going out and that is a lot of stamps. My passport is now full, four years before expiration. What a pain. I need to apply for a new passport.[/QUOTE]You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2934637]You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.[/QUOTE]They stopped doing it that way years ago. You have to get a new passport now if you run out of pages before it expires.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2934637]You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.[/QUOTE]I had extra pages put in my passport twice and did not have to pay. Perhaps this has changed but I don't think so. But fewer countries give physical stamps now. The EU / Schengen does not, the US of A does not, El Salvador does not, etc.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2934637]You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.[/QUOTE]I don't think you can buy extra pages anymore. I ran into the same problem & had to get all new extra page passport.
So now just like with the BioMig argument we are now having a new argument about whether you can add pages to a passport or have to get a new passport. Classic Medellin Reports nonsense.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2934647]I don't think you can buy extra pages anymore. I ran into the same problem & had to get all new extra page passport.[/QUOTE]I learned something today. According to the Department of State website, they stopped adding pages on January 1, 2016. They state one of the reasons for stopping was to improve security. I don't understand that.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
[QUOTE=DrHosem;2934058]
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what.
.[/QUOTE]The last lady has a nice pair of buns.
I imagine have to dress up and do videos takes more time and probably costs more than an average sex date?
[QUOTE=DrHosem;2934058]I use Tinder. Works great.
I tell them there pretty and look like my type.
Then I leave my WhatsApp (Colombian#.
They contact me on whatsApp and I have one little paragraph I use.
If they bite I have a second one.
I'm looking for gals who will do videos and I'm up front as I can be as it helps to avoid problems when they show up.
I have about 25+ that will take a cumshot to the face with 3 cameras pointing at them.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what. Any other place on the site for that?
I've spent 6 plus months down here over the last 15 months.[/QUOTE]
Guys,
I keep seeing references to Instagram, so I just signed up today. Forgive my ignorance, but How do you find girls on IG that are in Colombia?