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[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yeah, just had the same experience. Sort of ridiculous!
But I didn't go out, took my dinner anyway, since I like it there.
And the girls are fast and friendly.
In Paris you'll still pay 5-7 times the money.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Your last sentence is the classic approach that ruins markets. Any market.
I am beginning to suspect you are the Dollhouse owner.
If you are not,remember, you are in Philippines, SO PAY PHILIPPINE PRICES!!! Please!
Otherwise you will see the Dollhouse type prices inflation. Enough to give Bernanke a serious heart attack and put interest rates up to 100%!!
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]I am beginning to suspect you are the Dollhouse owner.[/quote]Thank god I'm not, but the idea is a nice New Years Joke. :D[quote]
If you are not,remember, you are in Philippines, SO PAY PHILIPPINE PRICES!!![/QUOTE]I am in Angeles!! A tourists playground!!
FP, do you really think, you'll get Philippine prices in Mo's place, Edelweiss or Subdelicious etc pp?
Okay, those places are now 20% cheaper than DH, but still far away from Philippine prices and thats true for the western food as well as for the Philippine dishes. If you want Philippine prices, try it at least 3km away from Fields. You might get Chicken/Rice for 30ps, but I don't go for it.
And with all respect, I think neither you nor anyone else in these forums is in the right position to tell me, what I have to do with my money. Understood? ;)
Cheers and a happy new year!
I will be in Angeles on 2-7-07.
Any suggestions for a newbie?
Please understand one thing.
Again and over again, many people are not understanding that you should think of the local price rates and do not compare always with the prices in your expensive countries.
This is the reason, that we always hear: where the Americans (for example, but this is so typical) go, the prices go up and they ruin the place for the other tourists from other countries. This has not to be, if people would consider the local rates and dont overpay.
But how much was this said, and always there is someone coming with the stupid sentence: dont tell me what i should do with my money. bullshit. Think a little bit.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Thank god I'm not, but the idea is a nice New Years Joke. :DI am in Angeles!! A tourists playground!!
FP, do you really think, you'll get Philippine prices in Mo's place, Edelweiss or Subdelicious etc pp?
Okay, those places are now 20% cheaper than DH, but still far away from Philippine prices and thats true for the western food as well as for the Philippine dishes. If you want Philippine prices, try it at least 3km away from Fields. You might get Chicken/Rice for 30ps, but I don't go for it.
And with all respect, I think neither you nor anyone else in these forums is in the right position to tell me, what I have to do with my money. Understood? ;)
Cheers and a happy new year![/QUOTE]
My Dear Friend, you of course should spend your money however you like. You are welcome to flush your money down the toilet and I will say, no problem at all.
When it does concern me however, is when some individuals spoil the market for everyone else by trying to get attention and play 'Big Rich Sugar Daddy'. When such people are about, girls, bars and associated rstaurants get very greedy and within a very short time the place is spoiled. This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.
Hi guys,
Im still in ac and I m curious bout the thai massages offered in ABC hotel.
With hanky panky or without??
Any expereinces?? Please share or PM me. I got a terible flue and still suffer , no alcohol for me , only bum2 hehehehe.. :D
My experience in Agassya is so so. I took one of the stunners out, nothing happens. I complained to mama san an she gave me another gurl.
Im focus on one gurl there, but it seems she has mens since 2 month :D hahahaha..well I have other gf to play with :D
Ok, any info on the massage there please post, I go there now and take a look myself. Hope I wont laugh to much at the frontdesk with their nice blue uniform trying to make an impression cause the standard room is 5000 p plus tax (hahahahaha) and then the name ABC asian b(itch)each club. WTF is the beach??
I guess Taiwanese and koreans are blind :D or maybe they think its a gud deal to stay there for 100 US plus plus....
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
I agree with Fastpiston.
Rewarding good service is one thing, being perceived as a fool (in their cultural terms) is quite another.
Overspending in the Philippines is tantamount to littering, it spoils the ambience for everyone.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]My Dear Friend, you of course should spend your money however you like. You are welcome to flush your money down the toilet and I will say, no problem at all.
When it does concern me however, is when some individuals spoil the market for everyone else by trying to get attention and play 'Big Rich Sugar Daddy'. When such people are about, girls, bars and associated rstaurants get very greedy and within a very short time the place is spoiled. This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.[/QUOTE]
I believe incall extra services are available from most massage places and then it would be a case of negotiation. I would not have massage done at massage parlor to expensive and usually not enough privacy for a worthwhile experience.
BFs are the best in AC, you can always get your Massage from them.
Hi guys
I got the INFO form hong kong airlines
The flight depart from hong kong international airport( no need to go to macau).
N8 425 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Hong Kong - Clark 1730/1910
N8 426 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Clark -Hong Kong 1955/2135
For any reservation and ticket issue, Please contact our General sales agent
1) Central Sky Travel (852) 23931323
2) Hong Kong Four Seas Travel (852) 22007766
3) CAAC Holiday (852) 28708912
4) JBC Travel (852) 25252256
5) Prince Travel (852) 21113828
Thank you for you kind attention
HONG KONG AIRLINES LTD
Address: Suit 2705, 9 Queens'Road Central Hong Kong
Tel: (852)21551888 Fax:(852)21552223
Website:[url]www.hkairlines.com[/url]
The fare is HKD1,753.00
I hope its help
ESSI
[QUOTE=Dcand4]I will be in Angeles on 2-7-07.
Any suggestions for a newbie?[/QUOTE]I was there for 1 day - December 4th. I drove into town at 3:30 pm and stayed at the Wild Orchid.
Met up with Mattrick and hit the streets at 7pm. I was like a deer caught in headlights. I gawked from 7pm until midnight. Went to Nero's; Blue Nile; Camelot and finally La Pasha.
At La Pasha I made my 1st choice and got rolling. I did manage 4 girls in all that night. Went to the Dollhouse at 5 am and took a waitress and a hostess until 7 am.
YOU WILL LOVE IT!!!
You can also fly to and from Macau.
Tiger Airways flies daily
Macau to Clark daily at 13.25/15.15
Clark to Macau daily at 15.45/17.40
Prices start at 78hkd one way without taxes.
total cost (if you get the best fares) is under 600 HKD.
I've done it myself several times to get to Angeles and Manila.
For Manila had 2.500 pesos for the taxi.
You book direct at the airline website.
Beijinglover
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi guys
I got the INFO form hong kong airlines
The flight depart from hong kong international airport( no need to go to macau).
N8 425 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Hong Kong - Clark 1730/1910
N8 426 (every Tue, Thru, Sat, Sun) Clark -Hong Kong 1955/2135
For any reservation and ticket issue, Please contact our General sales agent
1) Central Sky Travel (852) 23931323
2) Hong Kong Four Seas Travel (852) 22007766
3) CAAC Holiday (852) 28708912
4) JBC Travel (852) 25252256
5) Prince Travel (852) 21113828
Thank you for you kind attention
HONG KONG AIRLINES LTD
Address: Suit 2705, 9 Queens'Road Central Hong Kong
Tel: (852)21551888 Fax:(852)21552223
Website:[url]www.hkairlines.com[/url]
The fare is HKD1,753.00
I hope its help
ESSI[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Germano123]Again and over again, many people are not understanding that you should think of the local price rates and do not compare always with the prices in your expensive countries. But how much was this said, and always there is someone coming with the stupid sentence: dont tell me what i should do with my money. bullshit.
Think a little bit.[/QUOTE]
Germano123:
No need to teach others what to do and what not! Let the market do the needful in terms of "finding the right price"! Think a little bit, ok?! :)
If the price level for any service is too high for you, simply do not purchase the good (e.g. food, transportation, barfine etc). But if other mates are prepared to pay more, let them do so and feel free to go to a cheaper place of your choice instead. We are living in an open society and the economical interaction between supply and demand will do the rest for you/us!
However, brother, be assured that neither Ekspat nor 1,000 Koreans have the power to spoil the overall price level in AC - at least not as long as 20,000 mongers like you (I suppose?!) act more cost-conscious. All in all it's pure economics, isn't it?! IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
If you where out bar hopping with a bar girl. Would you get mad if another guy asked her for her number or what bar she worked at?
Would you want the other guy to first ask you permission if it was ok?
What if it was a regular girl you seen every time you are in AC. Would it matter if she gave her number to another guy so she could meet with him after you are gone.
I would think it RUDE for a guy to ask the girl your with for her number or bar location while I was sitting there with her. I would Never do that to another guy in a Bar cause shes with him at that moment. ITS RUDE even if their only with you cause your paying them. If she gets up to go to the bathroom then Its fine to hit up on her then. This is a good test on what the girl really thinks of you anyways cause If she really likes you And you bought her a drink or 2 and even her EWR She will quickly render herself unavailable to this guy and blow him off. If shes gone a while and you see her flurting back with him she might just be a runner on you.
Yes, its a bit out of line to hit a gal directly as you sit with her. Makes you feel like you're not there.
I dont mind if the bloke ask me( not her) the simple questions out of curiosity ,like--where did I meet her, but not to ask her directly as I'm sitting there and he knows she is with me. Also, not right to ask too personal questions while I'm sitting there-like--her phone #, how much am I paying her for the nite etc.
No problem with me if some bloke ask me anything the next day but not while shes sitting there with me.
PT
Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl. Since a friend and I will be out of the States for the game, we would like to try and be in a football friendly enviornment. Anyone have any plans/advice. Or would you recommend we stay in Thailand? Newbies to SE Asia. How about renting out one of the bars? And if this is being done by one of the brothers. How about an invite.
Thanks in advance
Blitz
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]This phenomena of Big Rich Sugar Daddys has spoiled the market in lots of places elsewhere in Asia.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure, you can provide some examples of these "lots of places"?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Germano123] This has not to be, if people would consider the local rates and dont overpay.[/QUOTE]
Germano, you simply do NOT get the local rates in a place like Fields Ave or whole Balibago area.
It doesn't matter whether you pay 280 or 240ps for a Chicken Cordon Bleu with mashed potatoes and veggies. It has nothing to do with local rates.
Also Philippino dishes like tapsilog or losilog (?) somewhat around 120-150ps, rice with corned beef and fried egg for 110ps. This is also far away from local rates.
Do you have any idea about the local rates?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Streetlooker]I would think it RUDE for a guy to ask the girl your with for her number or bar location while I was sitting there with her. I would Never do that to another guy in a Bar cause shes with him at that moment. ITS RUDE even if their only with you cause your paying them. If she gets up to go to the bathroom then Its fine to hit up on her then. This is a good test on what the girl really thinks of you anyways cause If she really likes you And you bought her a drink or 2 and even her EWR She will quickly render herself unavailable to this guy and blow him off. If shes gone a while and you see her flurting back with him she might just be a runner on you.[/QUOTE]What is you sent a girl over to ask her in Tagalog?
Would that be the same as if she got up to go to the bathroom?
Since it is business, do you care what she does the next day or after you are done with her on her own time? Her giving out a number can take less than a min.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Yes, its a bit out of line to hit a gal directly as you sit with her. Makes you feel like you're not there.
I dont mind if the bloke ask me( not her) the simple questions out of curiosity ,like--where did I meet her, but not to ask her directly as I'm sitting there and he knows she is with me. Also, not right to ask too personal questions while I'm sitting there-like--her phone #, how much am I paying her for the nite etc.
No problem with me if some bloke ask me anything the next day but not while shes sitting there with me.
PT[/QUOTE]What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?
Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?
I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her!
[QUOTE=BJ Blitz]Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl.[/QUOTE]
Hello Blitz,
If you want a spacious place away from the action with a geriatric type crowd, check out the bar at Swagman Narra Hotel. For something on Fields, try Kokonutz Sports Bar part of the Kokomos complex. This is one sporting event you should have no trouble catching wherever you are, including Thailand. Many places use this game as an excuse to throw a party. To make things more interesting, I like to go to a party that has some betting action or at the very least some sqaures.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]I'm sure, you can provide some examples of these "lots of places"?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Thailand, Taiwan, Hong Kong, East Europe going that way from my own experience and recent posts. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Good Luck.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Same to you.
Seems we'll need it.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Thailand, Taiwan, Hong Kong, East Europe going that way from my own experience and recent posts. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Not in Asia, but you can add Montreal to the list. I have seen the prices double in a very short amount of time.
I am not sure if it was the Rich Sugar Daddy syndrome that caused the problem, but more that the girls got smarter.
I agree with Thailand. In recent years the girls can use cell phones and the internet to make more money. I have to say also with the new technology it made it easy for me to find what I am looking for.
I just try to continue to increase my income so I can continue to have money to spend on my hobby!
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?
Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?
I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her![/QUOTE]
This could happen but I probably wont mind as most of the times I'm never sure if the gals knows each other and could be friends etc., so may be talking about something personal among themselves. Yes, it would bother me if the guy came over and did it himself.
PT
Who cares about getting numbers of anykind? These gals suck and fuck anyone and will never stop at what they do.If a guy takes a gal from you who cares she went so that should tell you she will also do it to the new guy.ALL THESE GALLS HAVE OTHER GUYS,GALS,FOREIGN AND FILIPINO.Please do not think that you are the only one in the life of a bar or nonbar gal here.
This is the ultimate in CRAZY! ANGELES CITY.There are no rules and just watch whats going on around you.In the street,the bar,the hotel,the store EVERYWHERE!I heard a foreigner trying to get a free room in a gals house because this guy has no money.The scamms are here from all over the globe so it's not just the gals thinking we are bad we also think they are.
Should a guy get a number from a gal when she is with another guy I say no but if he knows where she works or lives he can get a contact number.And if a gal wants a guys number she can also get it herself or from the bamboo pipeline.This is a dash for cash and NOBODY IS OFF LIMITS GUYS OR GIRLS.
Get who you want and be polite and if you see a new conquest just sit back and wait your turn,"I im sure as god made green apples" you will get your chance.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Who cares about getting numbers of anykind? These gals suck and fuck anyone and will never stop at what they do.If a guy takes a gal from you who cares she went so that should tell you she will also do it to the new guy.ALL THESE GALLS HAVE OTHER GUYS,GALS,FOREIGN AND FILIPINO.Please do not think that you are the only one in the life of a bar or nonbar gal here.
This is the ultimate in CRAZY! ANGELES CITY.There are no rules and just watch whats going on around you.In the street,the bar,the hotel,the store EVERYWHERE!I heard a foreigner trying to get a free room in a gals house because this guy has no money.The scamms are here from all over the globe so it's not just the gals thinking we are bad we also think they are.
Should a guy get a number from a gal when she is with another guy I say no but if he knows where she works or lives he can get a contact number.And if a gal wants a guys number she can also get it herself or from the bamboo pipeline.This is a dash for cash and NOBODY IS OFF LIMITS GUYS OR GIRLS.
Get who you want and be polite and if you see a new conquest just sit back and wait your turn,"I im sure as god made green apples" you will get your chance.
B.B...[/QUOTE]I have no problem with a guy getting the girls number or even taking her from me that minute. I NEVER go bar hopping with a girl until I am already done !
If I bar fine a girl the first thing I do is go right back to my room with her... I would never pay her to bar fine with me ! After I am done with the deed I am off to find a new one ! If she wants to come I don't mind, I will buy her a few drinks at another bar. Even better becuase I get her to get more numbers for me from girls I would like to meet up with !
I agree guys should'nt get mad if another guy wants to get her info. It is a dog eat dog world! You have to get what you can when you can!
"What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?" - A sign of extremely bad manners.
I say this in a totally dispassionate manner, its like eating off another person's plate at dinner.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?
Sometimes a girl knows another girl may chat for a while. And if she just happens to give that girl her number, which can take less than a min. Does that bother you?
I know it is business for the girl and if she can get another customer. Good for her![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]I have no problem with a guy getting the girls number or even taking her from me that minute. I NEVER go bar hopping with a girl until I am already done !
If I bar fine a girl the first thing I do is go right back to my room with her... I would never pay her to bar fine with me ! After I am done with the deed I am off to find a new one ! If she wants to come I don't mind, I will buy her a few drinks at another bar. Even better becuase I get her to get more numbers for me from girls I would like to meet up with !
I agree guys should'nt get mad if another guy wants to get her info. It is a dog eat dog world! You have to get what you can when you can![/QUOTE]
Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.
Hi folks:
I just returned home from my last trip to the Philippines and need now to recover a little bit! :) During my recent stay in AC I had the greatest pleasure to meet again with brother Ekspat, who made certain that not one single minute in the “promised city” was wasted. :)
Wow, guys, believe you me, this incredible chap - who is best known all over the place - did not fail to amaze me over and over again! Already while going out for having breakfast at let’s say 1 pm, dozens of girls on the streets greeted him with a lovely smile “hello Ekspat, my dear!” And when both of us hit the bars in Perimeter Road at 2 pm or so, virtually all dancers and waitresses knew Mr Ekspat - apparently for ages. It goes without saying that the very same story continued at nighttime in Fields!
So, I was wondering more than once if there is any cuty in AC who was not f***ed by Mr Ekspat, or, if there might be a place in town he does not know? Well, honestly spoken, I would rather doubt it! However, I look forward to seeing Mr Ekspat again in a couple of months!
Cheers - Hesekiels
I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.
For hotel info, I found this to be a good link [url]http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url].
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?
I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!
Happ hunting, folks
GF
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]If you where out bar hopping with a bar girl. Would you get mad if another guy asked her for her number or what bar she worked at?
Would you want the other guy to first ask you permission if it was ok?
What if it was a regular girl you seen every time you are in AC. Would it matter if she gave her number to another guy so she could meet with him after you are gone.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.
A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.
For hotel info, I found this to be a good link [url]http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url].
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?
I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!
Happ hunting, folks
GF[/QUOTE]
There are many hotels at 20-60 U.S. dollars per night here and you get all you need.You can stay at ck\larkton great pool quiet great staff and food.New large room for 60 per night.Oasis is great also and thats 70 per night.Premier hotel is 27 per night nice place good pool.Horizonhill hotel 23 per night good staff clean quiet travel agent inhouse all you need under 1 roof.
You get out of the shit on fields ave and get a good room at a good price.Tell the driver to go past the petron station and you are 1 km from all the shit.Also high season is na so you will pay all the jack now for a room on or close to fields.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Billpsu]"What about if a girl ( a guy sent ) came over to get her number?" - A sign of extremely bad manners.
I say this in a totally dispassionate manner, its like eating off another person's plate at dinner.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean, but in the Philippines it is VERY common for others to eat of each others plate. They also use their fingers and hands. If they do use utensils it is a fork and spoon rather than a knife.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The whole point of going to a bar is to find one you may like. Bringing a girl with you automaticly tells the other girls at the bar that you are taken. They do not want to step on the toes of the other girls.
For the most part Filipina girls are not swingers. Most of them are really looking for a real husband, so they don't think you are cool seeing you go from bar to bar picking up different girls. But of course they know from them it is a job and most guys are out for a good time.
I think getting numbers and giving numbers is all part of the game these days, and if you are really up to date. Do it by Bluetooth!
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.
A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.[/QUOTE]I agree it may be a pathetic, but was'nt it Woody Allen that said.. " The heart wants what the heart wants "
Like you said, there are 1000 girls in AC, so why should the other guy get mad. It is only getting a number that can take less then a min to get.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Actually, I think it just makes you look pathetic. From the girls' standpoint it is not really a compliment. And if you take it from the guys perspective, you don't know what could happen. Why would you risk him going off on you? There are 1000 girls in AC.
A guy did that once on Fields to my girl. Good thing I didn't catch him.[/QUOTE]
It is rude for someone to do that, but you know what? We aren't dealing with angels. We ourselves could be nice people, but you are always going to have some rude people who don't give a lick about other people's feelings or whatever. Is it worth getting in a fight over? I highly doubt it unless someone is doing somebody bodily harm. What would be the point of getting into a fight? This is AC or wherever it may be in a P4P scenario. It to me would not be worth the energy or the possibility of bodily harm or worse. We have a potpourri of people here: women looking for money and/or love, drunks, good people looking for fun, jerks, whatever. No reason to trip. It's a losers game. I never understood this original concern of someone asking your barfine for her number. If it upsets the barfiner so much, he's got to get real. Look where it's happening. If it's your real girlfriend or wife, what the hell are you doing barhopping in AC? Anyway, all I'm saying is it's not worth getting all jacked up. Sure it's rude, but getting all emotional and potentially physical over it makes no sense. If you are bothered by it, I would consider bringing your barfine back to her bar and try and get your barfine back or loose her since she didn't live up to the true GFE you thought you paid for.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]
I think getting numbers and giving numbers is all part of the game these days ... ![/QUOTE]
Sure, it's part of the game! I also take frequently their numbers - just to call the girl in the afternoon ... for a great bbbj in my hotel room after having had lunch! :) Or, could there be another reason?
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]I add a good map, covering bars and hotels along 300 meter of Fields Av. which is the most important areas I think. Hope someone find it useful. Perimeter road is at the left of Fields Av. Up to the left, outside the map, is Clark freezone where the airport is.
For hotel info, I found this to be a good link [url]http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url].
Maybe someone can say more about the new hotels, standards and room rates at near 100USD. Just rip-off or does this give any value for money?
I go to AC by end of Feb, but think a hotel at 35 USD should be max. These 1800 PHP is more than 10 days work for those people there!
Happ hunting, folks
GF[/QUOTE]
to all
Better AC map detail on the bar and field area, see all you guys next week I will staying at the new pacific breeze hotel hope the pool is bigger than the one at central hotel .
[url]http://www.acmap.com/[/url]
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]I agree it may be a pathetic, but was'nt it Woody Allen that said.. " The heart wants what the heart wants "
Like you said, there are 1000 girls in AC, so why should the other guy get mad. It is only getting a number that can take less then a min to get.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it is not a winning percentage. Most won't give their number and why risk a problem?
If the guy is smart, why not ask "Hey don't you work at Nero's? No? Where did I see you?".
Coming up behind a girl and whispering "Hey can I get your number?" or "Give me your number" is pretty stupid. It just made my girl feel really uncomfortable, that is what would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.
The other guy can get mad because he has paid for her time and attention.
It is just poor form and the chance of a confrontation is higher than any benefit of the girls' phone number.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton].
You get out of the shit on fields ave and get a good room at a good price.Tell the driver to go past the petron station and you are 1 km from all the shit.Also high season is na so you will pay all the jack now for a room on or close to fields.
B.B...[/QUOTE]I usually try to avoid high season periods with the associated downside. The weather should be good now though. How busy is March through April? Is this a good time to visit. Never having been to PI, I'm looking to avoid the crowds in Cebu and Davao.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to all
Better AC map detail on the bar and field area, see all you guys next week I will staying at the new pacific breeze hotel hope the pool is bigger than the one at central hotel [url]http://www.acmap.com/[/url]
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Hi Eddie, I felt that map was a little outdated, thats why a newer (2006?) was attached. Anyway, main point is it should be easy to find the interesting areas.
About Pacific Breeze hotel, hope you can report back on that. Is that worth the value?
GF
Another great story here in the city of angels.
I have a frend that steady bf a gal here and now after he has given away the cash the attatude of the girl is she cares less about what the guy thinks.Never never never pay a gal a steady BARFINE!
She will change once the cash is gone and go back to the bar looking for another VICTOM.Guys they will all go out with no money given to the bar just be firm in what you tell her.Remember they all lie and tell stories here so tell some shit of your own.Tell the pea brain you will buy her a house and lot and you must get the cash when you go home.And then wait and see how long it is before you find out about just how honest she is.I am sure you will find out about all the scamms she is running on you in a short time.At least you did not give the blood thirsty bar your hard earned cash...
B.B...
[QUOTE=SUNSTAR NEWSPAPER ARTICLE]EXTRA caution is being asked of the public after City Hall was alerted to the presence of a foreigner said to be positive of the Human Immuno-deficiency Syndrome (HIV), the virus responsible for AIDS, who is sexually active and refuses to use protection in his encounters with local women.
The City Hall received e-mail reports from police intelligence regarding this Caucasian man who is said to be a long-term resident of the Philippines with a tourist or balikbayan visa but who does not have a work permit or a marriage contract to support his balikbayan visa.
The report said the man has at some periods stayed in Davao, Surigao, Butuan, Gingoog, and Cagayan de Oro.
The foreigner is described to be around 5'3" in height, in his mid-fifties, has brown eyes and a heavy body build, with short hair, and clean shaven. He has lots of tattoos and drives a motorcycle with a Philippine license.
The man is also said to be intelligent and manipulative with a history of pay-offs to the police and other Philippine authorities. Also, that he has a criminal record in his country.
Sightings of the said foreigner should be reported to the police and other local authorities.[/QUOTE]I am sure if the guy is in the Philippines he was in or will be in Angeles City at some time.
You also may want to watch out for bar girls from Davao. They could be infected and dormant. When the girls go to the clinic for their health check. They don't check for HIV. It is pretty much a simple pap smear. A lot of other STD will not show up either than can be transmitted.
Be careful and always use a condom if you don't want the headaches.
[QUOTE=Flying Sky High]I just recieved a text message from a girl from A.C. stating the feds raided a "locked down bar" in Angeles City and took all the girls, including the mamasan to jail in Manila. Anyone who is in Angeles hear or see this take place?. Those who have traveled to A.C know what a locked down party is in a bar.[/QUOTE]
What is a "locked down bar"?
One of my NY resolutions was to be less antagonistic, but the only "peabrain" I see in this story is BB's friend. Why on earth would anyone pay a "permanent" or "steady" bar fine? (that is BB's message, so I guess I still haven't broken my NY res.) Hey, if you love her, and she loves you, tell her to quit her job. Why on earth should a guy pay the bar for the privilige of a girlfriend?
Two years ago, I had an EDSA SPACE girl who was for some reason smitten with me. She didn't go to work the next day, nor the next....and she incurred the 1000 penalty.
She's now married and in a developed country. Good for her...but damn do I miss that hot ass. She still owes the bar money.
My biggest disagreement with BB is that you need to lie. White lies I can deal with, especially since the Filipino definition of "white lie" is much broader than those of Westerners. If you need to lie, you are one really lame piece of shait.
Dang, less antagonism, less beer....doesn't take long for those resolutions to fall by the wayside.
X
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Another great story here in the city of angels.
I have a frend that steady bf a gal here and now after he has given away the cash the attatude of the girl is she cares less about what the guy thinks.Never never never pay a gal a steady BARFINE!
She will change once the cash is gone and go back to the bar looking for another VICTOM.Guys they will all go out with no money given to the bar just be firm in what you tell her.Remember they all lie and tell stories here so tell some shit of your own.Tell the pea brain you will buy her a house and lot and you must get the cash when you go home.And then wait and see how long it is before you find out about just how honest she is.I am sure you will find out about all the scamms she is running on you in a short time.At least you did not give the blood thirsty bar your hard earned cash...
B.B...[/QUOTE]
[quote=flying sky high]i just recieved a text message from a girl from a.c. stating the feds raided a "locked down bar" in angeles city and took all the girls, including the mamasan to jail in manila. anyone who is in angeles hear or see this take place?. those who have traveled to a.c know what a locked down party is in a bar.[/quote]
yea that was the sob party. funny, i was at the perimeter party in may that got busted. the person that is going to be in the worst situation is the mamasan, if she has anyone **** in her stable.
basically, it moves in a rotation of different bars. the host bar will have food brought in and serve free drinks for about 2 hours during the party. you pay about 550 pesos. at sob they have front row seats for another 500. these are the best seats, because when the girls do their show well...some guys just gotta eat.
they usually have a contest where girls representing the rotating bars each do a show and the winning team gets some pesos. they get paid to be on the team too.
[QUOTE=X Man]One of my NY resolutions was to be less antagonistic, but the only "peabrain" I see in this story is BB's friend. Why on earth would anyone pay a "permanent" or "steady" bar fine? (that is BB's message, so I guess I still haven't broken my NY res.) Hey, if you love her, and she loves you, tell her to quit her job. Why on earth should a guy pay the bar for the privilige of a girlfriend?
Two years ago, I had an EDSA SPACE girl who was for some reason smitten with me. She didn't go to work the next day, nor the next....and she incurred the 1000 penalty.
She's now married and in a developed country. Good for her...but damn do I miss that hot ass. She still owes the bar money.
My biggest disagreement with BB is that you need to lie. White lies I can deal with, especially since the Filipino definition of "white lie" is much broader than those of Westerners. If you need to lie, you are one really lame piece of shait.
Dang, less antagonism, less beer....doesn't take long for those resolutions to fall by the wayside.
X[/QUOTE]
LIES,
THIS IS A COUNTRY BUILT ON LIES IN EVERY CORNER AND EVERY CRACK.Please do not try and tell me about America now I know what the answer is there also. Everyone here tells stories and everyone here needs cash thats the facts.The only real story I beleave here is from a guy that lived 20 miles from me at home.He tells me things that are true and fact as he has seen and found to be true to him.He has lived here over 6 years now and has a good handle on the culture and ways of the country.And also his ways never and still do not work for me.Style is indavidual here as at home so make your way using what you have to work with.You sit and listen to the 5 cent stories the guys tell here and then listen after a case of beer.The story is not the same one as before.How hard is it to be rich here?anything over 300-p per day is rich and most working people here are not getting that much.
I would dare say 90% of all the gals here have a bf or a guy sending cash.THATS NOT A HIGH FIGURE.These gals will tell you they love you and will be back in an hour and be sucking the dick of your best frend for pera(MONEY).I gave up telling everything via the truth because they will not return the same respect.If a gal is honest after a fue days or weeks or so then the respect comes out.GENTLEMEN,please you do not have to say only the words "would you like a barfine"Thats all no lies no talking just that.Any guy any size shape color can get a hot 18 year old from the bar thats a fact!When I here the shit like i love you,you are my first bf,i really like you just wait.In the morning the question out of there fucking suck's is I NEED MONEY!!Or my mpm is in the hospital or someone fell out of the tree or some unreal bullshit!
I know another guy staying here at my hotel, that think's when he buys a gal a drink this gives him an open line to feel and grope the girl.I blasted him face to face on that also.What do you think the girls here are not people??? They are!they work to support there life and manytimes that of a child and family.They are not trained fuck robots or machines there are PEOPLE.I will say this,what we do here we can and will never be able to do at home,so why act the fool here.MONEY TALKS AND NOBODY WALKS.
B.B...
WTF.? Blood pressure medication, I mean I'm a pretty stressed guy with a shor temper but Bill chill out man, take a break. Who the hell cares what anyone's opinion is. Sure everyone lies, sure most of these over the hill bastards are being taken for a ride but then again, who cares. Sad to say that the one thing that the Internet has done is to bring all of the (to use a British term) punters out of the woodwork. I liked SE Asia back in the 80's and 90's, now because of the Internet I think that every A hole who can still get it up has come to town. Times change and the last thing anyone wants is someone flying off the handle on this board. Hey it's a great resource, don't abuse it. I simply state my opinions, I don't yell and I don't get upset if someone has a different opinion than me. If people want to believe that these girls are all angels who never lie, go ahead and let them I will not harm your life at all.
Just my thoughts,
ENDER
[QUOTE=Ender]WTF.? Blood pressure medication, I mean I'm a pretty stressed guy with a shor temper but Bill chill out man, take a break. Who the hell cares what anyone's opinion is. Sure everyone lies, sure most of these over the hill bastards are being taken for a ride but then again, who cares. Sad to say that the one thing that the Internet has done is to bring all of the (to use a British term) punters out of the woodwork. I liked SE Asia back in the 80's and 90's, now because of the Internet I think that every A hole who can still get it up has come to town. Times change and the last thing anyone wants is someone flying off the handle on this board. Hey it's a great resource, don't abuse it. I simply state my opinions, I don't yell and I don't get upset if someone has a different opinion than me. If people want to believe that these girls are all angels who never lie, go ahead and let them I will not harm your life at all.
Just my thoughts,
ENDER[/QUOTE]
ENDER,
Thanks you are right thats true,why stoop so low as to get that started.
My mistake high blood.
B.B...
hi guys, thought i'd post after reading something on cambodia site. has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]hi guys, thought i'd post after reading something on cambodia site. has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty hard to get a 100% confirmation on anything. I've read reports of this possibility and these reports were like 10 years ago and in US. I would assume it is possible.
So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):
OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)
Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.
Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:
P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT
I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.
Your comments are welcome!
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:
P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT
[/QUOTE]
Hi Raverboy:
P. Burgos:
According to my experience that's indeed the price level to calculate with. Compared to AC damn expensive, isn't it!? However, keep in mind that some mates are of the opinion that the Burgos girls are more attractive than their sisters in AC (but that's just in the eye of the beholder, I suppose!)!
AC:
Also quite correct, although many bars in Fields carge 1.200 pesos nowadays.
LA Cafe:
I would rather doubt that somebody from LA Cafe accepts 500 to 1.000 pesos for LT! I believe that you could get ST for 1.000, but most likely not for 500 pesos!
Have a great time!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Hi Raverboy:
P. Burgos:
According to my experience that's indeed the price level to calculate with. Compared to AC damn expensive, isn't it!? However, keep in mind that some mates are of the opinion that the Burgos girls are more attractive than their sisters in AC (but that's just in the eye of the beholder, I suppose!)!
AC:
Also quite correct, although many bars in Fields carge 1.200 pesos nowadays.
LA Cafe:
I would rather doubt that somebody from LA Cafe accepts 500 to 1.000 pesos for LT! I believe that you could get ST for 1.000, but most likely not for 500 pesos!
Have a great time!
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Angeles City
1000 pesos for Perimeter Bars and above Kokomos.
A few bars on Field are at 1250 pesos ie. Executive Club.
Raverboy,
If you have the energy and money, I guess what you are planning is doable. Personally, I think you are probably just better off staying in Angeles for that short amount of time. That's a lot of traveling back and forth to Manila in that short span. Plus you have to get your transportation both ways. If costs are no issue, then go for it.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Raverboy,
If you have the energy and money, I guess what you are planning is doable. Personally, I think you are probably just better off staying in Angeles for that short amount of time. That's a lot of traveling back and forth to Manila in that short span. Plus you have to get your transportation both ways. If costs are no issue, then go for it.[/QUOTE]I agree with Keymaster that your schedule might be a bit much to try. For 4 days, sticking just to angeles might be the best bet if you're only interested in mongering. While I think there are more 8-10 range girls in the Burgos bars, there are certainly some in angeles also - you just have to look a bit more. The only real disadvantage to angeles is that there isn't much else to do there, but for a relatively short trip, that probably doesn't matter.
I've only been to the Phils twice so i am pretty much a rookie. I spent Dec 4th in Angeles and had Filipina Heart dates the rest of my stay.
I agree that you might best be served by just staying in Angeles for the duration. When I was there in December the ratio of guys to girls in any given bar is 30:1. So many to chose from. if you can't find a few goodlooking ones in the crowd you have extremely high standards.
I had a total of 5 girls in the one evening I was there. It was a blast. I am looking forward to a return visit and this time I am staying put in Angeles.
A word of caution on Angeles. There is nothing to do but drinking and fucking. For me though that is quite enough.
Good luck. Bob
[QUOTE=Raverboy]So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):
OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)
Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.
Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:
P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT
I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.
Your comments are welcome![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the comments, will take them into consideration. I'll post a report accordingly. In the meantime keep the comments coming!
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010] ... There is nothing to do but drinking and fucking. For me though that is quite enough ...
[/QUOTE]
Towelboy2010:
I second every single word you wrote - and that's exactly the reason why I like AC so very much! Simply have some fun there! Life can be so easy! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]in December the ratio of guys to girls in any given bar is 30:1. So many to chose from. [/QUOTE]
So many guys? :(
Isn't it 1:30 what you mean?
Cheers! :D
Just back in manila after 2 night at angeles city stay at the new pacific breeze hotel just open 2400 peso a night very nice room and a nice deep pool nice design own by same owner of central park and is just around the corner ,most bar barfine is 1200 peso blue niles still have the most girl the one taht I pick up have a little attiude stay all night only allow cbj 3 shots .
The new clark sm is nice also when to the new mall of asia in manila I will heading to china tomorrow I still like mongering much better there , this is my
4 trip to pi in 3 yr not sure I will be back for a long time , I think service and girl quality is much better in other country in asia .
fast eddie 48
Hi
As I been many times in angeles during the last 5-7 years I want to change too.
Can you advice me where I can find a nice holiday with nice hotel in china?
We normaly stay in angeles in oasis take a suite for 2500 pesos I like there the service and the rest. But I realy fed up with the filipino girls and their lie always like manstration and "my father ill" "my mother come to manila from the probince" and they have to go after you BF her at 12 midnight.
Me and my freinds comming for 10-15 for holiday and to have fan for a reasonbale price. where else can we go in china?
Must be pool or beach.
We dont like pattaya!!!!
ESSI
Any info about the new Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station? Hey, you AC expats. Tell me. I have seen the hotel before its opening. Please give me their e-mail to make an inquiry/reservation. I think it must be around 950/room and is a new hotel.
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
As I been many times in Angeles during the last 5-7 years I want to change too.
Can you advice me where I can find a nice holiday with nice hotel in china?
We normaly stay in Angeles in oasis take a suite for 2500 pesos I like there the service and the rest. But I realy fed up with the filipino girls and their lie always like manstration and "my father ill" "my mother come to manila from the probince" and they have to go after you BF her at 12 midnight.
Me and my freinds comming for 10-15 for holiday and to have fan for a reasonbale price. where else can we go in china?
Must be pool or beach.
We dont like Pattaya!
ESSI[/QUOTE]So you prefer China? OK, go there be be ready for 4 times AC prices, a lot more attitude, including business attitude and yes, related dangers. The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.
If you want a more relaxed Chinese atmosphere, yeah, go to Hong Kong but be ready to pay 10 times AC prices for less service.
Happy hunting in China
In case anyones is interested. CBC (Canadian Broadcast Corp) is showing
a story tonight 10 eastern on "The Lens" regarding prostitution, sex tours etc.
Filmed by two university girls and a prof. Wondered how long it was before there was some publicity on main stream tv!
Cheers
Hi
It not important if china or not we just look for a nice pussy paradise with same AC prices.....
Any idea?
ESSI
Now that doesn't sound very friendly. Where might you be from Quasarus?
BTW, I don't know anything about "... Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station?" Marcherita Station? That's probably in Tijuana -- you're in the wrong section.
X
[QUOTE=Quasarus]That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Quasarus]So you prefer China? OK, go there be be ready for 4 times AC prices, a lot more attitude, including business attitude and yes, related dangers. The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.
If you want a more relaxed Chinese atmosphere, yeah, go to Hong Kong but be ready to pay 10 times AC prices for less service.
Happy hunting in China[/QUOTE]
It sounds like he's been there Q and dont mind the bigger $$.
Eddie...aren't there huge language problems?
[QUOTE=Dafacer]It sounds like he's been there Q and dont mind the bigger $$.
Eddie...aren't there huge language problems?[/QUOTE]
to dafacer
Well I am an chinese american born in hong kong grew up in the US and I go
to China 4 times a yr for business so I have an avantage over you yes I agree
manila and bangkok is much easier for you guys ,if you been to both pi and china I am sure you will agree with me serivce is much better in China , the 4
p4p in PI and no bbbj only cbj but in China is standard.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=X Man]Where might you be from Quasarus?[/quote]
Who cares?
[quote]Tiger Hotel opened on a side street from Marcherita Station?" Marcherita Station? That's probably in Tijuana -- you're in the wrong section.[/QUOTE]
He might be in the right section. Most likely he means Margherita Station, The Ville, and it's true, somewhere nearby openend a hotel called Tiger. Turn left from The Ville and then 1st or 2nd street to the left. 100-200m off the main road.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Quasarus]The Chinese police will not give a shit on the color of your passport and your embassy is pretty powerless in Red China. That`s why I like Red China, they don`d give a shit of your Western Assess.[/quote]
Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Man, give me the e-mail of that hotel to make a booking. Also some info on the exact price and coditions would be useful for the community. Of course I mean Margherita Station.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Seems you have a minor problem with the western asses?
But you're asking the the AC expats to get a hotel email-address for you?
Somewhat funny.
Good luck![/QUOTE]That was for the sake of warning and protection. Some Westerners think that all the world is the same, no, its not. Better get offended now than spending some time in a Red Cage.
Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,
There are better options available in the same area.Try premier,and horizonhill same street lower price good service.Also secure and girlfriendly.Yes only a trike ride away from the action.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Aeilla]Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,[/QUOTE]I stayed there twice. Good hotel if you know what to expect. Japanese management=clean and correct.
-Big rooms, big beds, good watter preassure ( important)
-Excellent service, in room service ( breackfast, lunch)
-Great pool and pool area-gives you a bit of a tropical relaxed hiliday atmosphere
-you can pay by credit card
-daily cleaning
-no inroom safe box but at the reception
Bad points:
-The corridors are rooms are neon lighted, very basic= look like a sanatorium, nothing glizzy but much better than other cheap hotels.
Bottom line: good value especially if you stay for 7-12 days.
If you stay shorter better spoil yourself with something closer to the action and more luxurious.
-distance from the action, 10-15 min, trike at the door , or jeepeney around the corner
-Very close to the Perimeter bars-some people prefer perimeter area only.
-I might stay there again but lately I was targeting modells and stunners and they sometimes turn their noses when they hear about Hana although it can be only my impression
Ya think?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]He might be in the right section. Most likely he means Margherita Station, The Ville, UOTE]
I'm planning on taking my second trip to AC around the middle of February, does anybody know what the female/male ratio is around that time? I would appreciate any info.
Good question Ghost. I would like to know what the ratio is too. Also is that a tourist busy time, are we going at a good time for mongering?
Hi
I think its going to be busy as the chinees new year falling on this days.
ESSI
If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.
[url]http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.html[/url]
Watched the program "the lens", here in Canada. a special called, "selling sex in heaven". about all the girls who come from the provinces to work in the bars in Angeles. man thoses casas are terrible places. fuk them bastards who keep the girls there. the maintainers/proprieters should be shot on site if they're caught. the girls are locked up all day and night in a small room. disgusting. and to all you pricks who treat the working girls like shit, you can shove your head up your ass and disappear. they do this to help their families, it's unfortunate, but thats the only way, I guess. peace out.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.
[url]http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.html[/url][/QUOTE]Hard to find. The report obviously is distorting the reality in a number of ways: the prices, the fact that the girls are forced to do what they do
The report is accurante when it comes to the girls weekly check ups.
Hi,
Thanks for the info, I'm planning to be there for about 3 weeks so hopefully it wont stay busy the whole time.
Ghost
The males are always outnumbered by the females in Angeles. No worries there. Just go and enjoy yourself. Know the situation there and how everything works. Everything else will fall into place.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]If any of you guys can find this in the PI let me know.
[url]http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/553869.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Thats my opinion on it, this report is inaccurate and lays the blame, largely, on "The Catholic Church". I dont know what education level these people have but the producer could have done better if he saved the money and spent some time reading this board. Idealistic save the world types NEVER get it right.
This is ASIA people, you dont change it, it changes YOU.
Regards
Spamhog
It might be that some feminist groups or NGO's are running out of tax payers money. So they have to get such nonsense in the paper to proof how much to do is left.
Same happened in Phnom Penh, sometimes they had reports in the newspaper about K11, which were 2-3 years old. Just to keep the money flowing, so that NGO's can continue enjoying life and buy new 4WD's.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Good question Ghost. I would like to know what the ratio is too. Also is that a tourist busy time, are we going at a good time for mongering?[/QUOTE]
Thankfully - the busiest period of the year (xmas, nye) has already passed.
Even when its really busy, there will always be far too many girls on your 'to-do' list after scouting the bars for a day or two that you will never come close to having everyone you want.
If you're worried that another guy will get the girl that you like, just dress a little better than a drunken bum and avoid being arrogant or semi-abusive towards the girls and you are already a few steps above many of the guys who will be in AC at the same time as you.
You also need to consider that even though the popular hotels will be booked solid, many of the tourists already have girls waiting for them, so they won't even be competing with you for barfines. They will be tucked away in their rooms, playing by the pool or wining and dining the love of their life to bother thinking about who else they could be fucking.
If you want to be there during a 'ghost town' quiet period, then June-July is your best bet. Problem is, you may never see the sun, it could rain everyday and the atmosphere in some of your favourite bars will lack energy as they are too empty to give many of the girls hope that they will barfine that night. Sure you can get all the attention, but too much can be a bad thing. Its good to have some other punters in a bar to balance things out a bit.
It never ceases to amaze me how the harm done in the world by people looking to "do good."
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Thats my opinion on it, this report is inaccurate and lays the blame, largely, on "The Catholic Church". I dont know what education level these people have but the producer could have done better if he saved the money and spent some time reading this board. Idealistic save the world types NEVER get it right.
This is ASIA people, you dont change it, it changes YOU.
Regards
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]Thankfully - the busiest period of the year (xmas, nye) has already passed.
Even when its really busy, there will always be far too many girls on your 'to-do' list after scouting the bars for a day or two that you will never come close to having everyone you want.
If you're worried that another guy will get the girl that you like, just dress a little better than a drunken bum and avoid being arrogant or semi-abusive towards the girls and you are already a few steps above many of the guys who will be in AC at the same time as you.
You also need to consider that even though the popular hotels will be booked solid, many of the tourists already have girls waiting for them, so they won't even be competing with you for barfines. They will be tucked away in their rooms, playing by the pool or wining and dining the love of their life to bother thinking about who else they could be fucking.
If you want to be there during a 'ghost town' quiet period, then June-July is your best bet. Problem is, you may never see the sun, it could rain everyday and the atmosphere in some of your favourite bars will lack energy as they are too empty to give many of the girls hope that they will barfine that night. Sure you can get all the attention, but too much can be a bad thing. Its good to have some other punters in a bar to balance things out a bit.[/QUOTE]
GOOD INFO YOU ARE RIGHT IT'S JUST THIS EASY.
B.B...
Any guy staying long time at a hotel here will fall in the friendship trap.The hotel staff and others will befriend the person and extort whatever they can due to friendship.
This was the case of a long time friend and guest at my hotel.The cook was hanging around after work talking to us many nights.He first wanted a free drink or two and then more.He would bring his wife and kids and relathieves in and wanted us to foot the bill.WOW WHAT A DEAL HA.tHE BEST PART IS WHEN MY FRIEND WAS ON HIS LAST NIGHT HERE THE COOK WAS GOING TO BRING IN SOME FOOD AND THROUGH A PARTY.Please let me say that we did have a party but the cook was nowhere to be found.He knew that he would have to reach in his pocket for once and that shit will never happen here!!HE never showed and we had a good time after all.
Never get to close because kindness is viewed as weekness here.They take and take and take until the flys have nothing to eat.
IF NOT FOR PUSSY WE WOULD NEVER COME HERE.
STAYING ON TOP,
B.B...
As if there are no cheap *****s all over Canada...
[QUOTE=Quasarus]Hard to find. The report obviously is distorting the reality in a number of ways: the prices, the fact that the girls are forced to do what they do
The report is accurante when it comes to the girls weekly check ups.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Im back home since a week from my stay in PI and just give my 2 cents to AC and scenery there.
I visited some expat friends and we talked bout AC scene today, means those guys who actually live the dream to be constant in AC or elsewhere in PI.
AC has a very limited freelance scene, so for those guys who like to barfine a gurl and invite her to go to Boracay or just let her her stay with you for a while and give her 500 p a day its quite difficult to do so. All the gurls or lets say allmost all the gurls are obliged t folow the rules of the bar scene.
In other words, if you barfine a gurl and u like her, u have to be barfine her the nxt day also, otherwise she will go with another guy the next day.
I only speak about the experience from those guys who actually LIVE in AC.
Ac is ok for guys who just want a quick f..k , you just go to a bar, have a drinkwith the mama san and point to the gurl that you like to get barfine.
Conversation is limited, cause gurls arent that smart. My expatfriend told me he can do that also when he is 70, just point with his stick to one of the gurls dancing on the stage, buy her a drink and off we go...So, he will just live in AC but maybe only 4 month a year , in the other time he will go to Mindoro, Thailand and Manila, cause of the freelance scene, In AC its all dictated by the bars, tht was different some years ago...I rember 1996 the gurl f..k ur brains out all nyt, stay with you as long as you want and no problem with bars etc.....
During my stay in AC I went to Agassya, this place has changed and is now more western friendly. All you have to do is to chat with the mama san , buy her a drink and she will recomand gurls who wana go with you.
I will allways go back to AC when Im in PI, but the place has changed and this is my impression from my recent trip.
Blue Nile group will soon open a casino next to their club. They also installed one armed bandits las vegas style in Blue nile and Neros, I heard they invest 1 million dollar for this. I hope they have some extra savings to give some extra cash to the police for back up, cause Im pretty sure if they get customers from Casino Filipino those mafia mobs want to get a piece of the cake. Always remember that filipinos dont like competition, so lets see how they do in the future....gud luck...
If you know excactly with what you dealing when goin to AC and stay with ur feet on the ground in this fantasy world you will do good over there and you will have fun, but for the guys who actually live there, they kno what Im talkin about....
Happy hunting!!
Blink157
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Any guy staying long time at a hotel here will fall in the friendship trap. The hotel staff and others will befriend the person and extort whatever they can due to friendship ... He first wanted a free drink or two and then more... He would bring his wife and kids and relatives in ... [/QUOTE]
BB:
Very much true! Everyone who did not know that should read BB's lines twice, or, even better, three times! By the way, you need not stay all too long! Sometimes you have such "new friends" already after four, five days!
Cheers - Hesekiels
O k lets just say that I have gone through another long time stay here and it was not a good time.The reason is because of the staff and there games.They never stole (outright) anything like at the marquis but the money and games are going on here every minute.
Again where are we the bigest monkey business place in the PI and yes we should expect it right?The answer is wrong frome where I sit.They are all sisters and brothers under the sun and lie and cheet and steal whatever they can.They know most do not tell the management about whats going on for whatever reason.Could be there only here a short time,or could be they feel stupid over 10-20 dollars take your pick.And the managers know whats going on and do NOTHING to fix the problems,
The only way to get back at the places is HIT THEM IN THE WALLET! MOOVE OUT AND NEVER SPEND ANY CASH THERE AGAIN.How many hundreds of thousands of peso's do they have to loose before they know they have trouble?I know eating and paying for my room adds up to 70-80 thousand per month, so if you want your 150-p a day waitress or cook or bellboy to cost you that kind of cash over monkey business GO FOR IT? If the answer is yes it's ok for me My cash is green and the next place will honor it I am sure.The people know nothing about business and run things from the seat of there pants.Proven twice in six months so fuck them who cares.
And trying to tell them what they should do is not a help at all.They are so proud and will never say I am sorry ever so wollow in the shit you create is what I say.REMEMBER IF YOU GET ONE OF THESE BROWN PIECES OF SHIT TO SAY "SORRY" YOU HAVE HANDS DOWN HAD A GOOD DAY!They are so fucking stupid even when they are wrong they will never say those words.
Nice to see I kiss ass at home thats why I have the ability to stay here so long.Customer service here is zero and thats why they will always be below board here never on top.
WORLD FAMOUS;
B.B...
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]
IF NOT FOR PUSSY WE WOULD NEVER COME HERE.
[/QUOTE]
For me, this is true for all the mongering hotspots I regularly return to in Asia.
Hi,
Has anyone stayed at iL Tinios? Is it okay? Can I bring girls back from outside?
What bar has the best quality?
Hi there,
my friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.
Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.
When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.
He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.....
Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick....he agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.
You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again..
Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.....
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello,
During my stay in AC I went to Agassya, this place has changed and is now more western friendly. All you have to do is to chat with the mama san , buy her a drink and she will recomand gurls who wana go with you.[/QUOTE]Agassya is still full of shit. The other night a friend and I went there to test the water. My firend has has lived there for almost two years and the mamasan knows him. We walked in told mamasan we wanted to barfine two girls right away. After some "bull" with the girls, she said "girls don't want to go. Maybe you sit down, buy drinks and talk to them." Same old crap. They want you to spend on lady drinks and waste your time. Avoid Agassya.
[QUOTE=Ghost 13]I'm planning on taking my second trip to AC around the middle of February, does anybody know what the female/male ratio is around that time? I would appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]Dude,
Anytime is good. There are always plenty of girls to go around. Your choice of hotel may be only problem sometimes.
[QUOTE=Aeilla]Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,[/QUOTE]Try Dm Residente, Cold Drop Inn, Patio or Tiger for around 950 pesos ($20us) you will be much happier. For a good time you should budget around 125 a day excluding airfare. IMHO. If you stay at Patio, try breakfast at VFW.
[QUOTE=Aeilla]Going on my first P4P trip in my life. Has anyone stayed there? How much of a problem back and forth from the bars? The price there is great..looks like a nice pool. I have budgeted myself a $100 a day, with a room for $20. EWR of $24 to $28,food, and maybe a ST here and there should be fine. Thanks,[/QUOTE]I can put you in contact with a few trustworthy bargirl friends that you can go to for questions or help when you are there as well.
[QUOTE=Scotian]Hi,
Has anyone stayed at iL Tinios? Is it okay? Can I bring girls back from outside?
What bar has the best quality?[/QUOTE]
Not sure about the hotel you are asking about.Yes the choice is up to you as far as the gal quality goes.You might like others find fugly.Try any bar here and you will find the right one for you I am sure.
B.B...
Perhaps "wage slaves" would be better.
[QUOTE=Columpuss]IF NOT FOR MONEY, PEOPLE WOULD NEVER LIVE IN THE WEST
Bottom line MONEY; we are all the same: MONEY *****S[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Dude,
Anytime is good. There are always plenty of girls to go around. Your choice of hotel may be only problem sometimes.[/QUOTE]You're right Firewalker I guess im just looking at it like a buffet line, I know there's gonna be enough food for me but i wanna get first dibs.
Has anybody stayed at the Blue Fields hotel also known as Lafayyete? I've been reading the forum but I haven't seen anybody post anything about it. Any info would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Agassya is still full of shit. The other night a friend and I went there to test the water. My firend has has lived there for almost two years and the mamasan knows him. We walked in told mamasan we wanted to barfine two girls right away. After some "bull" with the girls, she said "girls don't want to go. Maybe you sit down, buy drinks and talk to them." Same old crap. They want you to spend on lady drinks and waste your time. Avoid Agassya.[/QUOTE]
hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)
By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)
Happy hunting!!
Blink
This bar is Korean owned, and any western guy has got no chance of barfining anything decent there, and this is why anytime you go in there the place is deserted of customers, as all the ac regulars know this.
Yes of course they will let you buy then ladies drinks, but after that the bola bola sets in, they are on their mens, ect, just avoid, go to stingers instead round the corner.
[QUOTE=Blink157]hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)
By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)
Happy hunting!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blink157]hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)
By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)
Happy hunting!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
First time was last night and the quality yes i fact is low.I got a new gal yes 6 hrs offthe bus to go and after she got to the room she only wanted to stay 1 hr.I guess all the words from the friend or cousin were make him stupid.
Never again.There are quality places here and yes scamms up the ass.Buy a drink or two and find the one you want.You never have to rush there are way to many to get here.
B.B...
I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."
I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.
Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.
[QUOTE=Blink157]hehehehe,
I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink for them or without talkin to them, Maybe aka blow row you can, but I never been there, to hardcore for me.
Before I get fu..d I like to be kissed, the more more maganda the gurls are they least expect a drink. I can speak for myself , being in Agassya I got many gurls offerd to go with me, but I just wanted to be with a certain gurl and refused many times. If you wana shag right away I recomand MP in AC..roman bath is ok and one just beside sunlight internet (next to Wu office om mcarthur hi way)
By the way I spent some times with the gurls in Agassya, they dont like the koreans that much, the atmosphere nd the way they got treated, so its not bad that they are in AC, its not a competition...of course they like the money , but all in all they prefer western guys. Infact, some of the gurls prefer only wester guys and some only koreans and the lets say the other half u have to convinced them ;-)
Happy hunting!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."
I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.
Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.[/QUOTE]
You tell the gal you will pay the bf and also tell her to go get ready.You do not have to but drinks thats unreal.You are the boss paying the freight so stay sharp.If she wants a drink and will not go who cares get another there are thousands.I am sure when it comes to that she will go and get ready.
No bar has a rule on this buy a drink thing.Please never do anything here you are told you should by bar personel.They will tell you to jump off the bridge next.You gonna do that?????????
The gals need money thats why they work so make the offer and see what they say.Never buy a drink before asking the right questions first.How many bomX2 and how ling will you stay,and do you have your monthly.Ask and get the answers first and that makes the process smoother at the start.Sometimes you don't ask and then when you get back to the hotel you get a surprise.I hate that,ask first everytime.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I totally disagree with your statement: "I dont think in any of AC bars you can just walk in nowadays and ask the gurl or mama san right away to take the gurls barfine without buying a drink . . ."
I have been in many AC bars and, for one reason or another, did not buy a drink - yet barfined the girl. You are the customer. Indeed, I would steer clear of any bar that made such demands.
Becasue of managements conduct at Agassya, I voted with my feet a long time ago, I simply don't go there.[/QUOTE]
to billpsu
I was in AC 2 week ago walk into bedrock late around mid night after drinking at 2 other bar , I walk in see the girl I like and barfine her 1200 peso without buying a drink I don't drink acohol and I have done this at blue nile also but camelot do want you to buy a drink first .
fast eddie 48
hi,
yes agassya is korean owned and also Las vegas (some stunners there)
Bola2 is all ovr AC, Stingers doesnt impress me much I barfiend there some years ago, but I always give it alook when Im there to see whats new.
i just try to see other places and I barfined in Agassya, maybe it needs more time, but u can score there also. I dont mind to spent some lady drinks to get info bout the gurls working there who Im intersted. Of course its all bola2, its al fantasy and like I said before, Ac has a little freelance scene so its all restricted to the bars...(not talkin bout the hoookers along/near mc arthur or ac downtown)
Agassya isn tmy favoured bar, I just post it here, to share my experience, thats all, but I think Agassya has some stunners, thats why u might check that place out.
Im back in march and Im sure I go there again to see what is newand if I like one I go and barfine there again.
happy hunting!!!
Blink
Yes, always think very carefully about advice you get. Take notes and keep records if possible. And then compare notes with other expats, and other people you meet. If you are a newbie, ask about restaurants, fares and tips and etc...BUT not from the people you expect to pay. Ask many questions....
For example, if you are in AC, ask the hote staff how much the tricycle ride is to abc bar.
So, find out what the costs are. Be prepared. Then, when you find the bikini-clad woman of your dreams....do you talk money? My advice is NO. You already know what the minimum payment is...
Before buying a drink...yes, you should ask the RIGHT questions. Of course the right questions are different for every lady and for every guy. My fav is where in Phil are you from...then talk about that place. Then I'll buy a drink. For a few bucks, I've scored a lot higher than the guy who asks, "do you lick scotum..."
Of course if she has your scrotum in the palm of her hand, the questions should be a bit more direct...
****
No bar has a rule on this buy a drink thing.Please never do anything here you are told you should by bar personel.They will tell you to jump off the bridge next.You gonna do that?????????
The gals need money thats why they work so make the offer and see what they say.Never buy a drink before asking the right questions first.
X/WHATEVER
You would be surprisedhow many guys would and do ask bad things to the girl on the first meeting.Look around here do you think you are at the church.Look at whats walking up and down fields ave.I am sure the police would question most if they were walking in my neighborhood back home.
When you compare, compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.
The following message was posted by Mo for the general mongering public.
The bars were sold yesterday; Lollipop, Ziggy's and Treasure Island. It was not an easy decision as those, along with Voodoo, were great bars and great places to hang out and in EVERY poll on the boards rate in the top 5 bars in Angeles. Still, with my involvement in Subic and 65 years approaching rapidly, it was time to scale back a bit.
The new owner is a great guy. He's a commerical pilot who will be retiring in 6 months and will spend lots of time in AC. Running the bar operation will be another pilot (we now have 3 working pilots in town) who has lived here since October but was a regular visitor for years. Ron, the new owner, has been a minor shareholder in this operation for quite awhile and all of us have been friends for ages. They are not making any changes in operational style or personnel. It will be the same great staff who many of you have known such a long time. Plus, of course, the regular gang who hang out there will still be around. We will continue to handle their administration and maintainence.
It seems strange that for the first time in 11 years there is not a gogo bar with Mo's name on it. Kokomo's is alive and kicking. We've made some operational changes (hours and a new menu which will be implemented next week) and, of course 'Nutz is still there.
In the end, though, all this fun would not have been possible without YOU. Over the years, I've come to know thousands of visitors; many found us via the Internet. My sincere thanks to all of you for your patronage, support and, most of all, your friendship.
[QUOTE=Columpuss]IF NOT FOR MONEY, PEOPLE WOULD NEVER LIVE IN THE WEST
Bottom line MONEY; we are all the same: MONEY *****S[/QUOTE]
Maybe for some people.
I left my country because of the higher earning potential in the 'East'.
Better to earn good money AND live in Asia.
Surrounded by asian pussy 24/365.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi there,
My friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.
Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.
When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.
He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.
Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick. He agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.
You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again.
Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.
Happy hunting!
Blink[/QUOTE]Sounds like he went off easy.
I tried to send a PM to you as follows, but it was blocked, please respond with another address so I can talk to you without me having to go thru the public forum.
"Hello,
My name is xxx and I am an Australian visiting again in April, usually stay at the Swiss Chalet when in Angeles. I read one of your posts and thought that I would like to meet you. Is that possible? Would you mind? I just wanna say hello and get some tips and buy you a beer. It is worth a great deal to me to know someone as familiar as you are with the Locals. I have been to the Phillipines 4 times already and have visited Davao, Cebu, Manila and surrounds Angeles and Olongapau. Hope you are agreeable to meet.
Regards xxx "
Hi Guys,
I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.
Thanks guys!
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to dafacer
Well I am an chinese american born in hong kong grew up in the US and I go
to China 4 times a yr for business so I have an avantage over you yes I agree
manila and bangkok is much easier for you guys ,if you been to both pi and china I am sure you will agree with me serivce is much better in China , the 4
p4p in PI and no bbbj only cbj but in China is standard.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Not correct. Had BBBJCIM this morning for 100 yuan in a BBS 5 minutes walk from my house.
Hi everybody,
I'll be going to AC on Feb 16 for a couple of weeks. This will be my second trip to AC so I still consider myself a newbie, so if anybody wants to meet up for a beer and maybe share some info please feel free to pm me.
Thanks
I was there for the first time last Dec 4th and I was solo too. I only had 1 night so I stayed at the Wild Orchid Resort. I was never more than 2 or 3 blocks from the center of Fields Ave so I'm not sure of the outer areas.
I was out from 7pm until 6 am having met and played with 5 girls over the course of the night. My last trip out was at 5:30 am to the Dollhouse and I was walking alone and no one bothered me. I am 51 yrs old and about 230lbs. I felt safe.
You will probably have ONE problem. Deciding which one - of the thousands of girls - you will want to have while you're there each evening. I couldn't decide. So I ended up with a 1 night total of 5.
Not a bad problem to have at all.
Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Country Club]Hi Guys,
I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is.
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
You will be fine stay alert and use your head.Ask for trouble and it's here play nice and the place will melt in your mouth.
B.B...
Country Club,
I'll be in AC on 13 March, but by the time I get there you should be well indoctrinated in the ways of life on the strip. Hit me with a PM during that time if you still need a wingman or want to grab a beer.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Country Club]Hi Guys,
I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way? I will be arriving in Manila on the afternoon of the 6th, spending a day or two there and then heading to AC, and maybe Subic after that. This will be my first trip to the PI and I'm looking forward to the change of scenery from BKK and Pattaya.
Cheers
Napalm
[QUOTE=Napalm]Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way?[/QUOTE]
Private car or taxi : php 2500 give or take
"Fly The Bus" : php 500
Have a good trip!
[QUOTE=Country Club]Hi Guys,
I will be going to Phils for my first time and will be in AC for a week or so from Mar 10-18. I hope I don't get overwhelmed by RTFF but I was wondering on safety in AC, particularly Fields and Perimeter areas. I will be traveling solo, (on business, taken care of all of it in Manila then the fun begins in AC) so I was wondering how safe it is to stroll alone in AC. One of my AC "gf" said I should always be walking with someone but I'm not sure if shes just being extra cautious, then again I have no idea how AC is. Help a AC virgin out. Also if any of you guys will be there around that time, maybe we can grab a beer, barhop and the veterans could show where the party is.
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
Central bar district (Fields, Real st etc) is pretty safe. Further up on Perimeter where the props (aka tourist) police don't drive around in their van with flashing lights some extra caution is advisable at night, especially say past America/Europhil...
Fly the Bus out of Swagman Hotel in Ermita for php 500. Stop in at LA Cafe while your waiting because it's very close to the hotel.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Private car or taxi : php 2500 give or take
"Fly The Bus" : php 500
Have a good trip![/QUOTE]
An addressee always helps, Sorry for my oversight, but originally this was meant to be a PM.
[QUOTE=Vidda]I tried to send a PM to you as follows, but it was blocked, please respond with another address so I can talk to you without me having to go thru the public forum.
"Hello,
My name is xxx and I am an Australian visiting again in April, usually stay at the Swiss Chalet when in Angeles. I read one of your posts and thought that I would like to meet you. Is that possible? Would you mind? I just wanna say hello and get some tips and buy you a beer. It is worth a great deal to me to know someone as familiar as you are with the Locals. I have been to the Phillipines 4 times already and have visited Davao, Cebu, Manila and surrounds Angeles and Olongapau. Hope you are agreeable to meet.
Regards xxx "[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yella Man]I'll be in AC on 13 March, [/QUOTE]
Will be there 16th onwards for 5 night.
For some beers, PM me.
Cheers!
Towelboy, thanks for the post, but I want to hear more. I would love to hear the whole story of that one night. I'm going to assume you were playing with more than one at a time. Even in my heyday, I never did more the three different ladies in different sessions over the course of one 24 hour period.
Of course I've traded in the jackrabbit method of jackhammer screwing and now have settled into a more (middle aged) mild, relaxed way of play where the intercourse lasts longer. I probably get more thrusts per day now than when I was 20. Still haven't acquired a chemical dependency ...other than alcohol.
X
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I was there for the first time last Dec 4th and I was solo too. I only had 1 night so I stayed at the Wild Orchid Resort. I was never more than 2 or 3 blocks from the center of Fields Ave so I'm not sure of the outer areas.
I was out from 7pm until 6 am having met and played with 5 girls over the course of the night. My last trip out was at 5:30 am to the Dollhouse and I was walking alone and no one bothered me. I am 51 yrs old and about 230lbs. I felt safe.
You will probably have ONE problem. Deciding which one - of the thousands of girls - you will want to have while you're there each evening. I couldn't decide. So I ended up with a 1 night total of 5.
Not a bad problem to have at all.
Good Luck.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Yella Man and Mattrick, I'm gonna try the fly the bus option from Swagman Hotel, since LA Cafe is on my to do list.
Ended up splitting a taxi with a guy I met at the airport. Stayed last night at America Hotel, semi decent room for 2400 pesos. Went bar hopping with my taxi friend and hit every bar/club from America Hotel up to Camelot. Camelot was IMO the best out of the places we went with lot's of good looking girls and a friendly atmosphere. My friend pulled a cutie and I went a couple of bars back to get a waitress I liked from earlier. Cute girl, kind of petite but when I got her back to the room I found out she had a big c-section scar which kind of turned me off. No problem just turned her over doggie and the scar disappeared! My fault for not sticking with the half naked girls where you can pretty much see what you are getting first. Good attitude and performance although I asked her to leave around 3:30am so I could sleep by myself. 1300 BF and gave her 250 tip on the way out.
Moved to ABC hotel today and this is a very nice hotel, although at 5700 something pesos for the jaccuzi room it is waaaaaay more than I ever pay for a room, but I wanted to treat myself for one night. If you don't mind spending about $120 USD per night and want a really nice room I would definitely recommend this place.
Had a burger at Mo's and made a room reservation for tomorrow there. 1600 pesos per night at Mo's which is more up my ally. Stopped in at La Pasha during the day and four girls were up on stage rehearsing their dance moves, with 6-7 more girls watching. They were really getting after it, looks worth investigating later.
Thanks Napalm - especialy for the hotel review.
I haven't been to AC in two years, but always liked America Hotel because of the cheap prices and nice pool. Service can be bad...very bad.......
It is walking distance to the main action area....if you are reasonably fit.
Some rooms have mirrors -- bring your own light bulbs.
No never mind, they've probably remodeled those rooms by now. The rooms in front are noisy.
Napalm doesn't say where he was, but I suspect he had a nice back room which has a balcony which overlooks the 24-hour-pool.
Last time I was there, they had a really cheap windowless first floor room under the stairs. I don't know if it's still available, and I would never stay there, but some of you might be interested.
Napalm, give us more info please...we want to know what you think.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi there,
My friend just told me what happen to his doorman last weekend.
Some bloke came into his bar parked his Harley Davidson infrnt, walked in and got himself a beer and bought a couple of LD for the gurls, SO far so gud.
When another costomer went in, he saw tht a filipina sat on his bike.
He run outside like a tiger , pull the filipina on her hair from his bike, The doorman told him she just sat down for a foto...BANG!! The bloke hit the doorman.....
Police came and ask the doorman if its ok to finish the guy quick....he agreed. The guy had to pay 15 000 p to the cops, 5000 p had to be given to the cops. !0 000 was fo the doorman. He bought some medicine for 1500 and gave 500 to trike driver and bought for 1000 p junkfood from joleybhees for the staff. Still got 7000 p left, excellent weekend pay so he says :D.
You cant hit filipinos in thei own counrty, would that happen somewhere in the Province, they guy wouldnt be seen again..
Neeedles to say, who wana go barhop with a Harley D.
Happy hunting!
Blink[/QUOTE]That is some funny stuff ! Even more so when it is some wanna be biker :)
I see white guys coming here all the time thinking they own the place just becuase they have a few dollars ! Alwasys good to hear when they are put back in their place!
Kudos to the Flips!
X Man,
Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.
The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.
All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.
For my second night in AC I had a few places I had read about here on the forum which I wanted to check out. Specifically Blue Nile, Dollhouse, La Pasha and Nero's. Started off at Lancelot, had a bottle of coke and left since nothing looked that good to me.
Next stop was La Pasha. Didn't see the four girls from earlier in the day but the stage was packed with about 30-40 girls. I immediately saw a really good looking waitress and sat down on the couch next to her. She was about an 8 on my scale with a very pretty face, long hair and incredibly silky smooth legs. If she would have had a bigger ass I might have BF'd her right then and there. Luckily I remembered my experience with the waitress from the other night and decided to wait.
Went across the street and down to Blue Nile and the quality of girls went up a few notches. Kind of a unique set up (well the first time I've seen it at least) with the girls up on an elevated stage which rises and lowers to let girls on and off. Ordered a beer and went upstairs to get a better view. Saw a pretty cute girl on stage with curly long hair who was my type but again not quite as much ass as I like. The bunch on stage soon got off en mass and I pulled the cute one over as she walked by. She had been standing next to me for about 30 seconds when a waitress came up and wanted me to buy a LD. As I was looking at the waitress and considering if I wanted to do that or not she gave the girl her little pad of paper and the girl wrote something down. So then I'm thinking... I hope she didn't just write down a drink order because I didn't say yes. Now, I know a LD isn't that expensive. 150 pesos isn't going to kill me but I was kind of annoyed that they just presumed I would buy one without even waiting for me to say yes so I thought to myself screw that I'm out and went back downstairs.
So I'm standing at the bottom of the stairs checking out the stage and I see the waitress go by with a drink headed upstairs. And I'm thinking, hey I didn't order that shit so it's not my problem. Waitress comes back down and hands me the check and I say hey I didn't order this, I never said yes to buying a LD. Well she gets a stunned look on her face and rushes back upstairs. So then I felt a little bit bad for the dancer, not so much the waitress but I was torn between feeling like a cheap bastard, feeling bad for the girl because either the waitress would take the drink back (or maybe she would have to pay for it herself?) and feeling like that's what they get for automatically assuming I'm going to buy a LD and not even waiting for me to say yes. Now, in hind sight I can definitely say that it's partly my fault for not immediately making clear that I did or did not want to buy the girl a LD. I will not make that mistake again.
Anyways, I sit down and start checking out the girls on stage. There are several that are my type and I see one that has the look I like and a nice ass too. I tell the waitress I want that one and she hits her with a little laser pointer and the stage lowers to let her off. Order another Heiniken for me and a LD for her and try to judge if there is any chemistry. It doesn't seem like it at first and I start thinking I may have to throw this one back in the pond. Our drinks arrive and hers is a glowing green concoction, which she offers for me to taste. Vodka and redbull. Not bad, wonder how they get it to glow though. So I'm trying to judge whether or not to BF this one. I had several girls grabbing my junk earlier when I walked by but this one is just kind of sitting there, and doesn't seem to be too into me. Finally I decide fuck it, she hot and I'm gonna BF her. If she's not into me oh well I'll just rail her, send her on her way and get some sleep.
1200 BF and 300 for the drinks and we're out. I'm pretty hungry though so we stop at Margarita Station for some food. I try to get her to order something but she doesn't want to eat. I order some mini chimichangas and a coke for me and three tequila shots for her since she said earlier that after three shots she's drunk. Now, it may have partly been that I was so hungry but those chimichangas were damn good. I imagine that the rest of the food there is pretty good too. We finish and head back to the hotel. I had also asked her if she wanted anything from the food vendors on the side of the street but she said no, and we stopped at 7-11 before we hit MS and the only thing she wanted was a bottle of mineral water.
Long story short once we got back to the room she turned out to be a decent GFE after all. It may have helped that I was going out of my way trying to be nice to her and make her feel comfortable... or maybe not. Who knows what goes on inside the mind of a bargirl. I briefly considered kicking this one out too around 3am but she was pretty sweet, rubbing my head and back until I fell asleep. Woke up around 8am and had a little morning session with her then gave her 400 PHP and told her goodbye. Her stage name is Jen and she's part Filipino part Spanish. Nice girl. Nice ass.
[QUOTE=Napalm]X Man,
Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.
The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.
All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.[/QUOTE]
to x man
I stay at the pacific breeze last month just open 2 month ago very nice pool very good to swim in deep end is over 10ft with a roman design 2400 peso a night , the pool in american is surrounded by the hotel so you don't get any sun at all , pacific breeze is own by central park is around the corner very good location and close to the actions and one of the nicest place in ac.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Napalm]
Moved to ABC hotel today and this is a very nice hotel, although at 5700 something pesos for the jaccuzi room it is waaaaaay more than I ever pay for a room, but I wanted to treat myself for one night. If you don't mind spending about $120 USD per night and want a really nice room I would definitely recommend this place.
[/QUOTE]
I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?
I am taking a non-pro I met to Palawan for a few days, then I am going to Fly the Bus and head up, thanks everyone for the info ahead of time.
2J
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]That is some funny stuff ! Even more so when it is some wanna be biker :)
I see white guys coming here all the time thinking they own the place just becuase they have a few dollars ! Alwasys good to hear when they are put back in their place!
Kudos to the Flips![/QUOTE]
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Firstly, the moral of the story happens to be just that; if you "have a few dollars" you can purchase justice on a pay-as-you-go basis, like it or not. This quick settlement scheme has its pros and cons, obviously.
Secondly, the whole incident could have been avoided at at least two times. The filipina who used the motorbike for a photographic session without permission could simply have asked the owner beforehand. In fact I'd venture to say that it's common wisdom in many parts of the world (excluding the Philippines) not to touch other peoples belongings without permission. This goes especially for HD bikes, I'd say ;) Moreover, if the guard hadn't commented the (for a HD owner) pretty mild correction, the case would probably have closed right there. So he asked for it, got it and the 10K LOL.
Thirdly, the general idea of the benevolence of having different sets of rules for foreigners and locals, which you seem to propagate, is not very appealing IMO.
Kudos to the Saudis for "correcting flips" in Saudi?
I think not.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?
[/QUOTE]
It's w/in walking distance to central bar district Fields/Real st.
As of late last night they had a banner flying across the road welcoming "hot air baloonists" and also offering a 20% "Valentines discount" Feb 1 thru 28. Haven't checked out their rooms but the lobby sure looks posh enough and the buffet they offered at New Years was very nice.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]It's w/in walking distance to central bar district Fields/Real st.
As of late last night they had a banner flying across the road welcoming "hot air baloonists" and also offering a 20% "Valentines discount" Feb 1 thru 28. Haven't checked out their rooms but the lobby sure looks posh enough and the buffet they offered at New Years was very nice.[/QUOTE]
It is closer to Perimeter action but you can easily walk to Fields. I think it is more suitable for people who need higher security, as their doormen are armed under their slick suits. I think you might see them getting realistic though. They have a chalkboard sign out now advertising the restaurant fare. Prices are not far out of line from competing restaurants.
But the security issue might not be realistic either. Once you are outside the confines, you are back in real world with the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Napalm]Can someone advise me what the going rate is going from Manila to AC by taxi? And is this the preferred method or is there a better way? I will be arriving in Manila on the afternoon of the 6th, spending a day or two there and then heading to AC, and maybe Subic after that. This will be my first trip to the PI and I'm looking forward to the change of scenery from BKK and Pattaya.
Cheers
Napalm[/QUOTE]
You can take 5 Star from Pasay to Dau for less than 200 pesos. At Dau take tryke to your hotel for 50-70. Very comfortable on bus. Be friendly with bus driver. Return same way they run every 30 minutes. Pasay terminal is near airport and it is about 150 pesos by meter.
subic is kinda boring unless you want to swim with whales. Make reservation ahead of time. Watch out in bars. Make sure you strike deal in front of mamasan. They will run on you after one pop, no matter what you agree on. Some good looking girls though, esp at Hollywood's. 1500 peso barfine. Do not tip until you walk her out to street.Do not tip in hotel room, I suspect that some girls pull tampo to extract more money.
Also there are airline deals on Cebu Pacific right now. I took 4 day trip to Cebu for two at around 95 USD and that was out of Clark in AC. Go to Website.
I can't say this too much. Spend more time in the Perimeter Bars, guys. I think alot of people hear how they are "Dive" bars or that the girls aren't as hot or whatever.
Here's how I describe the difference:
Fields is glitz, abundance, lots of makeup.
Perimeter is your neighborhood bar with a dance floor.
Remember when you moved into a new neighborhood and you tried the local haunts till you found "your spot"? That is Perimeter. Fields wants your money NOW. They can't stay in business any other way. Perimeter wants your money by repeat business. A little today. A little tomorrow. Etc.
Here's how I was trained and it works well for me. 3pm head to Perimeter Bars. Stampede, Gentlemans Club. Doctor Holm's, Thigh Hi's. Nasty Duck. Honeyko's Lost in Asia. Try them in different combos during the late afternoon. 35-50 for a beer. 100 or so for lady drinks. Be tight with your money, not because you are cheap. Make them work for you. If you make mistakes with choice of girl, let it be here.
Also, you'll start to notice something. There are some interesting girls here. How many times have you taken girl off stage on Fields and kinda were disappointed in her looks up close? That generally doesn't happen on Perimeter. What you see is what you get. The lighting in less sophisticated. Also you will find some of the waitresses look pretty good, esp. when they are not hotile or as pushy on Field. Let them tell you about the girls or even ask questions for you. If you buy a lady drink in these bars, the girls really appreciate it. That means they have lunch money guaranteed for tomorrow. That is literally how they think about it. The waitress is happy if you give her a 20-25 peso tip. If she sucked or was unattentive, leave a peso or nothing. Every time I go to Gentlemans Club when I get in town, I get sent a beer or a shot. I have only barfined a girl once there in 3 trips.
If you don't find your liking for barfine, so what? Have a good time. You can always head to Field later. An interesting thing happens too. You find your self not putting up with Fields bullshit. You will play YOUR game not the bars game. And your picks on Fieds will improve.
Just my take after 3 trips and barhopping with someone who lives there.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Central bar district (Fields, Real st etc) is pretty safe. Further up on Perimeter where the props (aka tourist) police don't drive around in their van with flashing lights some extra caution is advisable at night, especially say past America/Europhil...[/QUOTE]
It is fine up there, just don't walk in America/ Europhil area at night. Take jeepney to far end of Permeter. Nasty Duck, Fire and Ice, Honeyko's, Lost in Asia, etc. I've never had a problem up there.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]It is fine up there, just don't walk in America/ Europhil area at night. Take jeepney to far end of Permeter. Nasty Duck, Fire and Ice, Honeyko's, Lost in Asia, etc. I've never had a problem up there.[/QUOTE]
Well if you, with a full 3 trips under your belt, feel fit to be an AC security advisor who am I to argue with you?
As someone who walks this area practically every night my humble point is; since this area is not patrolled by tourist police and is partly poorly lit and/or desolate it's a favorite spot for some lowlifes. Please be aware that many of these guys and "girls" do carry weapons and if it's your lucky day..who knows?
[QUOTE=FireWalker]It is closer to Perimeter action but you can easily walk to Fields. [/QUOTE]
Yes it should be, since it's actually on Perimeter lol. This area is quickly getting "attached" to Fields now though...and the new project that will rise on the lot of present wet market will further underscore this trend IMO..
For any hoteliers in spe out there the lot next to ABC hotel was fenced with a very nice industry-strength barbed wire the day before yesterday..and a Lot For Lease sign was also posted.
AC needs more hotels! Why not build a hip-hop themed hotel there? The DEF Hotel, of course!
I have found that in AC the best bet is to ALWAYS go for the waitresses or door girls. They are usually the best looking and most personable girls at any bar. You can also chat them up extensively while just hanging out and having a drink. It is amazing how many guys don't know that they are available. One of my favorite things is to just walk down the street and briefly flirt with the door girls at every bar I pass. It is great fun and you can find a honey in no time like that.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Hi Egg:
An excellent report you wrote! However, I would not generalize "never barfine a waitress". It depends a little on the place, I suppose. Ironically I had never barfined a dancer at "La Pasha", but several times one of the cute waitresses there - and had always a great time with them!
In terms of "health check" you are right, some girls might be a little hesitant to get barfined the night before. But like always in life there are exemptions. Yesterday night for instance I barfined a cute dancer from "Heartbreakers", today at 6am I f***ed her the third time before she finally left - directly to the health center! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Thanks for you info on perimeter bars. Very usefull since I have never been to AC before and always about the 'famous' bars on fields ave.
Does anyone have experience with 950 Condotel (especialley the standard rooms)?
I'm looking for a cheap, simple but clean hotel in reasonably quiet surrounding.
Gonna be 22 yo when I hit AC, no need to impress the girls with the room and a big portemonnaie ;))
Fed has RAISED rates. Corporate profits are at a record highs. Economic forecasts are good. Dollar is declining simply because too many of them of been created out of thin air by the government and fractional reserve banking. They are literally "worth less". There hasn't been price inflation in manufactured items because of the competition from other countries. There has been TREMENDOUS inflation in housing and financial assets. That is where all the excess dollars have gone. People outside the US know the dollars are worth less but they can't sell all at once or they will crash the dollar and then their dollars really will be worthless. If you are an American you should definiitely invest in foreign currencies. It is all more complicated than this, but this is he basic answer.
[QUOTE=Lawn Gnome]Nutshell: Shitty US economic forecast-->Fed lowers interest rates-->US bonds, bills and notes pay less-->people dump or avoid dollars to invest elsewhere-->demand for dollar drops-->value of dollar drops.[/QUOTE]
This seems like backward logic. Most of the girls love to go bar hopping beforehand as a sign of respect. You (appear to be) not treating them like a *****. Much better sex IMO afterwards. They love to see their friends, but it is easy enough to buy drinks only for who you want to buy them. Just laugh with her and say "I know this game". Who is worried about spies? You WANT them to know you take other girls. The only girl who will think negative is one you lied to about something. If they play the guilt card it is all a big act. Don't fall for it.
Besides, it can be fun to bar hop! Do some shots. Get a little crazy. Dance around. See what a waitress will do for a tip (maybe your "tip"). Don't you guys go to have fun or is it just about sex? From the many sad sacks I see in AC I think it is the latter. Very few guys appear to be actually enjoying themselves.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Good point WebConnexxion. I don't really understand the thinking of barhopping with the bar girls. I really don't think there is anything good coming out of it in the end. The woman might see friends or family of hers and get you to buy drinks for them, and they become instant spies for her as you prance around with her. Another woman you might have been with thinks negatively of you for coming to her bar with another woman. I know it really ain't crap but if you want to play the game it doesn't hurt to respect her in some ways. Of course, running into guys that do what this original issue of someone trying to get your barfine's number. Personally, I don't really care, as I know the game. Just because you barfined her, doesn't mean you own her for whenever. Get real. Sure it spoils it for you a little bit, but it also grounds you in reminding you where you are. Unless you think you are going to marry her and such, who cares. Even more reason to stop the barhopping and just pound away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Well if you, with a full 3 trips under your belt, feel fit to be an AC security advisor who am I to argue with you?
As someone who walks this area practically every night my humble point is; since this area is not patrolled by tourist police and is partly poorly lit and/or desolate it's a favorite spot for some lowlifes. Please be aware that many of these guys and "girls" do carry weapons and if it's your lucky day..who knows?[/QUOTE]
Cute tone to your voice, I'm getting a hard on.
Actually you will probably find more lowlife's in the Field area where there are more targets. Sure you need to use normal caution everywhere(esp. travel in pairs, don't get too drunk), but no need for paranioa. The police carry weapons too, and they are the ones I worry about the most.
[QUOTE=Napalm]X Man,
Judging from the carpet and the furniture I don't think they have remodeled since your last visit. It's not a complete dive but for 2400 PHP I think better deals are out there, and much closer to the action. I was in a room upstairs and in the very back, away from the pool. No balcony and I was woken up several times between 3am and 7am by the roosters and other assorted noise from the local folks just behind the hotel. By light of day I noticed that the screen covering the window has a trap door you can reach through and close the window which would have cut down somewhat on the noise.
The bathroom light was out and in it's place they had another light bulb and socket hanging hanging down from the lamp and plugged into the wall. Kind of ghetto but it worked. Hot and cold water and AC worked well, didn't bother with the TV. They did have a nice big mirror on the wall angled for your viewing pleasure. The rooms are big, with several armchairs arranged in a little sitting area by the fridge, which has an assortment of items in it. The bellboy will check the items from a list of what should be in there and cross off anything that isn't, then ask you to sign the list.
All in all I wouldn't really recommend it, unless everything else is booked up and then only as a stop gap measure until you can get something better.[/QUOTE]
Just to let you know, the America Hotel and guests were robbed at gunpoint in September by masked men. This was a week before my September visit to AC. Pretty bold, just something to consider.
I will be in AC March 11 to the 18. I will be with some business friends but they will pretty much be occupied with their gf's as they have done the bar scene already. I've decided to take a few days for myself and take in the city before I connect with my own gfs. Want to see if anybody will be around so we can hit some bars. This will be my first time in AC so it would great to go around with someone who knows the place.
Senser- If you are around that time let me know, I?m 27 and looking for a wingman. Cheers fellas, cant wait to experience this city for myself.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I took a look at the website and it actually looks pretty nice. Has in room internet and in room safe, plus a jacuzzi, sounds like a good place to crash! But how close is it to the action?
2J[/QUOTE]
It's a bit of a walk to the Fields bars. Probably took me about 10-15 minutes on foot. I like walking but if you pull a girl from Fields you may want to take a trike back to the hotel. Probably safer too at night to take a trike.
Stayed at Kokonuts for one night and will not repeat. 1600 PHP room, not a bad price, basic no frills room but the noise from downstairs made it almost impossible to sleep. The staff were all very friendly and courteous though. Nice place to hang out, eat and drink. They have a private van going to Subic for 400PHP or you can catch fly the bus there for the same price.
[QUOTE=PeakView]This seems like backward logic. Most of the girls love to go bar hopping beforehand as a sign of respect. You (appear to be) not treating them like a *****. Much better sex IMO afterwards. They love to see their friends, but it is easy enough to buy drinks only for who you want to buy them. Just laugh with her and say "I know this game". Who is worried about spies? You WANT them to know you take other girls. The only girl who will think negative is one you lied to about something. If they play the guilt card it is all a big act. Don't fall for it.
Besides, it can be fun to bar hop! Do some shots. Get a little crazy. Dance around. See what a waitress will do for a tip (maybe your "tip"). Don't you guys go to have fun or is it just about sex? From the many sad sacks I see in AC I think it is the latter. Very few guys appear to be actually enjoying themselves.[/QUOTE]
Everybody is going to have their own opinion. You think it's backwards and someone might think your opinion is backwards thinking. That's new to me that going bar hopping gains you more respect and that the sex is better after bar hopping with your bar fine.. I've done the bar hopping a couple different times but didn't notice a difference vs. not. I prefer to take them to get something to eat than to bar hop. There's not a lot to do in AC at night except hit bars. I prefer to hit them without a woman in tow, but that's me. You can do all the stuff mentioned shots, getting crazy, dance and stuff without a bar fine in tow. Maybe some people don't know that. And in regards to falling for the crap from the women there, I don't 99% of the time, but at the same time I don't like to put myself in position to be tested either, but that's me.
[QUOTE=PeakView]I have found that in AC the best bet is to ALWAYS go for the waitresses or door girls. They are usually the best looking and most personable girls at any bar. You can also chat them up extensively while just hanging out and having a drink. It is amazing how many guys don't know that they are available. One of my favorite things is to just walk down the street and briefly flirt with the door girls at every bar I pass. It is great fun and you can find a honey in no time like that.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to have to get my eyes checked before I go back to AC. I've gone through trips where I've taken mostly door girls and waitresses. I then came back on the next trip and took all dancers. In all my trips, I cannot say that the way to go is to bar fine dancers or non dancers. My best bet is to find someone I'm attracted to both physically and personality and hopefully she treats me well. In my experiences there are no absolutes here. When taking waitresses and door girls you see less of them physically. If you are not into taking women with stretch marks from previous pregnancies or someone who might be a little chunky, you might want to do some inspection when they sit with you or you might have a surprise when you get back to your room. The waitress outfits are very sexy most of the time there, but can be deceiving to the eyes in reality. But then again the lighting in a lot of the bars can be deceiving period. My advice is to find someone you like whether they are door girl, waitress, or dancer and hopefully it turns out well. Sometimes the personality might change when outside the bar.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Cute tone to your voice, I'm getting a hard on. [/QUOTE]
Actually it's against the board rules to discuss this deviation of yours, besides I'm not interested..lol
Back to the topic: I didn't make any quantitative comparisons, I just stated that this area is a favorite spot for SOME lowlifes. Obviously there are more guys, good and bad, in Fields, but the presence of props police and a real police station smack dab in the middle sure keeps things in pretty good check there.
I walk around all over AC day and night, but the only place I've ever encountered some "incidences" has been in this area. Luckily all of them ended well and most were even aborted before they started...
That's my view..but of course as with anything else in Asia - Up To You.
[QUOTE=Senser]Thanks for you info on perimeter bars. Very usefull since I have never been to AC before and always about the 'famous' bars on fields ave.
Does anyone have experience with 950 Condotel (especialley the standard rooms)?
I'm looking for a cheap, simple but clean hotel in reasonably quiet surrounding.
Gonna be 22 yo when I hit AC, no need to impress the girls with the room and a big portemonnaie ;))[/QUOTE]
I always suggest DM Residente, as it is close to Fields. It is 3 blocks off so you don't have tryke noise in the morning. They have a small pool. but it is not a "hang out" pool. 950 pesos standard room, no water problems. They have website.
[QUOTE=Napalm]It's a bit of a walk to the Fields bars. Probably took me about 10-15 minutes on foot. I like walking but if you pull a girl from Fields you may want to take a trike back to the hotel. Probably safer too at night to take a trike.[/QUOTE]
The main reason you take a tryke with your barfine is so that you don't spoil your future game. In other words, don't be seen with other girls.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Actually it's against the board rules to discuss this deviation of yours, besides I'm not interested..lol
Back to the topic: I didn't make any quantitative comparisons, I just stated that this area is a favorite spot for SOME lowlifes. Obviously there are more guys, good and bad, in Fields, but the presence of props police and a real police station smack dab in the middle sure keeps things in pretty good check there.
I walk around all over AC day and night, but the only place I've ever encountered some "incidences" has been in this area. Luckily all of them ended well and most were even aborted before they started...
That's my view..but of course as with anything else in Asia - Up To You.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I couldn't tell by your user name that you were a guy.
Also, more guys are scammed with police involvement in the Field Ave. area as well.
My point is that you don't have to be paranoid or over cautious in the Perimeter Bars. If anyone feels they "don't want to risk it", go to Perimeter in the afternoon and early evening, then head to Fields at night.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]I always suggest DM Residente, as it is close to Fields. It is 3 blocks off so you don't have tryke noise in the morning. They have a small pool. but it is not a "hang out" pool. 950 pesos standard room, no water problems. They have website.[/QUOTE]
DM is filipino-owned nickel-and-dime you operation that has some really moldy rooms. If you fancy paying an extra 10 pesos for your extra TP this is the place for you. [OTOH they're quite generous sponsors w/in the local filipino community, go figure...] Also, the security guard is often sleeping at night, making it possible for anyone to reach your room...for good or bad lol
For P 950 you can get a clean aircon room at Anchorage Inn on Real St, right in the middle of bar district. If you up that a little to about 30 US you can stay at Central Park, good value and tightly run by expats.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Sorry, I couldn't tell by your user name that you were a guy.
Also, more guys are scammed with police involvement in the Field Ave. area as well.
My point is that you don't have to be paranoid or over cautious in the Perimeter Bars. If anyone feels they "don't want to risk it", go to Perimeter in the afternoon and early evening, then head to Fields at night.[/QUOTE]
Apology accepted, but you really need to read up on Occams Razor..
Of course, there is absolutely no need to be paranoid in AC, in fact I'd say it's safer than many (most?) of the crime-ridden big cities in the west. But cautious..on Perimeter yes!
I am presenting some alternatives and reasons why to bar hop with a BF when someone says, "I don't get it". I do get it! As for the respect thing? Absolutely. But you need to read the girl first. You can tell if they like to go out or if they just want the quick sex, get paid and get it over with. It is only fun to take out the party girls. Hey, I've taken out one and come back with two more free (their friends) several times. Is a girl going to give you her friends if she is having a bad time and doesn't feel respected? Doubtful. Yes, of course the other girls expect a little something, but it has been trivial. My observation in AC is that the vast majority of guys do not let their hair down so to speak and forget to have a good time. I am not taking about wild antics. I rarely see anyone even smile. Maybe one in five guys in a bar appears to be having a decent time. My post is not for the old hands who have a way they like to do things. It is for the lurkers, newbies, and other people who haven't beeen to AC yet or the infrequent visitor who wants to up his game next time around.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Everybody is going to have their own opinion. You think it's backwards and someone might think your opinion is backwards thinking. That's new to me that going bar hopping gains you more respect and that the sex is better after bar hopping with your bar fine.. I've done the bar hopping a couple different times but didn't notice a difference vs. not. I prefer to take them to get something to eat than to bar hop. There's not a lot to do in AC at night except hit bars. I prefer to hit them without a woman in tow, but that's me. You can do all the stuff mentioned shots, getting crazy, dance and stuff without a bar fine in tow. Maybe some people don't know that. And in regards to falling for the crap from the women there, I don't 99% of the time, but at the same time I don't like to put myself in position to be tested either, but that's me.[/QUOTE]
One of the difficult parts about chat boards is that if you don't write a book for each post and cover every possible alternative and nuance, someone else will. All your points are well taken. I did get a little carried away with the "always" thing. What I really meant was that they should always be considered at every place a guy goes. To say "never" is a big mistake.
[QUOTE=Key Master]I'm going to have to get my eyes checked before I go back to AC. I've gone through trips where I've taken mostly door girls and waitresses. I then came back on the next trip and took all dancers. In all my trips, I cannot say that the way to go is to bar fine dancers or non dancers. My best bet is to find someone I'm attracted to both physically and personality and hopefully she treats me well. In my experiences there are no absolutes here. When taking waitresses and door girls you see less of them physically. If you are not into taking women with stretch marks from previous pregnancies or someone who might be a little chunky, you might want to do some inspection when they sit with you or you might have a surprise when you get back to your room. The waitress outfits are very sexy most of the time there, but can be deceiving to the eyes in reality. But then again the lighting in a lot of the bars can be deceiving period. My advice is to find someone you like whether they are door girl, waitress, or dancer and hopefully it turns out well. Sometimes the personality might change when outside the bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PeakView]One of the difficult parts about chat boards is that if you don't write a book for each post and cover every possible alternative and nuance, someone else will. All your points are well taken. I did get a little carried away with the "always" thing. What I really meant was that they should always be considered at every place a guy goes. To say "never" is a big mistake.[/QUOTE]
I can accept your point of view. In a few of your posts, your tone and absolutes made it feel like there was only one way to do things. You never know when you are there what might happen and where you might find fun or meet people. I never thought I would go to Trax but I did with a couple of women and had fun. I also think everyone has their own opinion on what's fun or not. I may not take my bar fine barhopping but I think taking them to eat sometimes with a friend is a pleasure to them and other things. I also think how you treat them overall is important. For me, when I take a bar fine back it's not usually just straight sex. There's usually a lot of talking, listen to music, watch tv or play on the computer.
There's fun outside the bars also, like taking some of the hotel women to eat or a club. The women you meet working regular jobs love to be taken out also. It may not be a sex thing, but it's no big thing. It's nice taking them out and seeing them have fun.
Dang, you let the cat out of the bag. I try to share here on the board, but that little bit of info was something I was going to keep to myself. In AC there is sex around you all the time. I think it seeps into the pores of the regular girls. Some of them are ready to do some tasting themselves.....bless their hearts.
X
[QUOTE=Key Master]
There's fun outside the bars also, like taking some of the hotel women to eat or a club. The women you meet working regular jobs love to be taken out also. It may not be a sex thing, but it's no big thing. It's nice taking them out and seeing them have fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Dang, you let the cat out of the bag. I try to share here on the board, but that little bit of info was something I was going to keep to myself. In AC there is sex around you all the time. I think it seeps into the pores of the regular girls. Some of them are ready to do some tasting themselves.....bless their hearts.
X[/QUOTE]
Sorry X. I can't edit my post now that you quoted me. It's all good. There's way too many women out there even with the cat running a muck.
Sure enough Peak! Some guys forget to have fun in AC. I see it over and over again every time I'm there. Guys sitting in the clubs like corpse. The girls love it when I walk into a club, because I'm bound to get on the stage and dance with them and generally let my hair down. I usually travel there with my good friend who shares the same philosphy I have...that is..tear the club up (not in a literal sense) and have so much fun the girls throw their cell numbers at ya or request yours! They know a fun guy when they see one!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=PeakView]I am presenting some alternatives and reasons why to bar hop with a BF when someone says, "I don't get it". I do get it! As for the respect thing? Absolutely. But you need to read the girl first. You can tell if they like to go out or if they just want the quick sex, get paid and get it over with. It is only fun to take out the party girls. Hey, I've taken out one and come back with two more free (their friends) several times. Is a girl going to give you her friends if she is having a bad time and doesn't feel respected? Doubtful. Yes, of course the other girls expect a little something, but it has been trivial. My observation in AC is that the vast majority of guys do not let their hair down so to speak and forget to have a good time. I am not taking about wild antics. I rarely see anyone even smile. Maybe one in five guys in a bar appears to be having a decent time. My post is not for the old hands who have a way they like to do things. It is for the lurkers, newbies, and other people who haven't beeen to AC yet or the infrequent visitor who wants to up his game next time around.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Sure enough Peak! Some guys forget to have fun in AC. I see it over and over again every time I'm there. Guys sitting in the clubs like corpse. The girls love it when I walk into a club, because I'm bound to get on the stage and dance with them and generally let my hair down. I usually travel there with my good friend who shares the same philosphy I have...that is..tear the club up (not in a literal sense) and have so much fun the girls throw their cell numbers at ya or request yours! They know a fun guy when they see one!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
While I respect your positive approach I think it's also fair to note that it's not always so easy to muster a smile when the stage is full of "jollibee dancers" and fuglies looking bored and trying NOT to dance to the music they obviously don't like or relate to. The scene in AC is VERY much hit & miss...
I'm an equal opportunity kinda guy. Hell, they may be fat and ugly, but dammit they have pussy's to....I'm there to have fun! Doesn't mean I have to BF their ugly asses! Anyway, the best sex I had in AC was given by a 4...not a 10....and she was damn near a freebie (trike money)! :)
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]While I respect your positive approach I think it's also fair to note that it's not always so easy to muster a smile when the stage is full of "jollibee dancers" and fuglies looking bored and trying NOT to dance to the music they obviously don't like or relate to. The scene in AC is VERY much hit & miss...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yella Man]I'm an equal opportunity kinda guy. Hell, they may be fat and ugly, but dammit they have pussy's to....[/QUOTE]
More cushion for the pushin' I always say! Yes the best performers I've had were a few notches down in the looks department but they just try harder to please!
[QUOTE=Yella Man]I'm there to have fun![/QUOTE]
You are the party you create. It's much more fun to interact with the girls but if you just want to kick back and observe, thats okay too. Back in December, I hooked up with Ekspat, Towelboy and a couple of wild Aussies and we ruled the bar! My m.o. is to dirty dance with several girls, even the waitresses to see how they move because that usually translates into a good performance in the bedroom.
BTW, if anyone is going to be in town at the end of the month, PM me. We can get a few guys together and rule once again!
I'll be in AC for a couple of weeks from 05 March on. Will be staying at the Orchid Inn. Have been to AC 3 time before just for a few days at a time, so I'm looking forward to my "extended" stay. Have had lots of fun at the Classroom with "Officer Naughty" serving Tequila shots, nice little bar! Have enjoyed many others as well, and am going to try to spend more time down Perimeter way as well. Still, would like to hook up with someone with more experience in AC to learn more about the ways of the world there. If you're going to be in town and are interested, let me know. I can't wait to get there!
[QUOTE=Mattrick] It's much more fun to interact with the girls but if you just want to kick back and observe, thats okay too. [/QUOTE]
Exactly..but I could do w/o "observing" fat dancers be it filipinas or drunk aussies lol..although I must admit that seeing the fat dwarfette dancing has some entertainment value ;) (she's currently employed in one of the perimeter bars)
I'll be in the Philippines on 1 March but won't be in Angeles until 13 March. PM me if your still around and we'll burn some bars down...figuratively speaking of course.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Mattrick]
BTW, if anyone is going to be in town at the end of the month, PM me. We can get a few guys together and rule once again![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Exactly..but I could do w/o "observing" fat dancers
SNIP[/QUOTE]
There's a fat one at Dollhouse. I was kind of taken aback at first until I remembered that fat girls need love too. Just not from me ;)
[QUOTE=Napalm]There's a fat one at Dollhouse. I was kind of taken aback at first until I remembered that fat girls need love too. Just not from me ;)[/QUOTE]
Hehe..yeah to each their own..
BUT I might just temporarily white-list DH to check that out :)
I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?
As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Concarne]I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?
As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Why would you get street gals here? There are big problems that are following street trash here.The bars and malls and eveywhere is full of willing pussy why do the street thing for pay?
Take my advise stay away, way away from that type.Most are seasoned hustlers working for some lowlife Philippino and also the police! Go for a better class not profesional street p/u girls off Santos St. If 24 dollars is over your budget then stay home it's not worth the effort to get jammed up here.
B.B.
Had a great night with two sisters from a local fields ave bar. The original gal I paid in the bar was nice and then we talked to the 18 year old sister at the mall. She wanted to come along for the ride and why not. At the hotel the bar gal was in the shower and the younger sister was chatting me up. She was telling me about going to school and never making love with a foreign guy. I said "why not"She said she had never found one she thought she wanted to go with. Her sister finished in the bathroom and came out in a towel and a smile. The younger one looked on as we kissed and touched. After a fue minutes the younger one sitting in a chair was rubbing herself. She had her eyes closed and was working up a lather on her own.
I then pointed it out to the one with me on the bed and she smiled and said you want to try her? Why the fuck not I said. The younger sister was hands down wetter, horneyier, and better than the bar fly hands down in every way! . Wow, what a deal sisters, and one was the best I have had bieng here for 7 months. You never know what they are thinking or how they will react until you try. All in all, be. Fine 1000-p. Dinner 1600-p breakfast400-P and 1000-p to each of the willing sisters. 10 hrs in bed, 3 pops, 2 beautiful sisters, total time 13 hrs all for a c-note. Try that shit at home boys!
Unreal, just when you think it's time to go you get this.
BB
billy buxton, each to his own. i've also never been to angeles but hope to go soon. and i'm also intrigued by blow job row. it's more my thing than going into some smokey, noisey bar and having to buy drinks for girls then pay 1000 P+ when i can get a porn-style BJ for half that price from BJ Row. So any info on Santos and if BJ bars are still there would be greatly appreciated.
Peso 500 BJ's are easy to find in Angeles. Just look for the small hole-in-the-wall type clubs that line fields Ave. These bars are non-descript little joints that sometimes offer such service. Just walk into them and buy a beer to feel the place out. A lot of times the girls will ask you if you want the service. The key is you gotta feel the girls out by being friendly and playful, not sit there like a bump on a log. Illusions club up on Perimeter also has a short time room that girls will gladly give peso 500 BJ's in. I posted about this club in 2005 or early 2006. Five of the girls surrounded me and took turns giving me sample BJ's to see which one I would select for the ST room. They even let me take picture, which I posted, of them doing it. So don't worry if the Santos street BJ bars such as the Black Pearl are on the way out. There are plenty of other options available in AC.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Concarne]I read on some threads that BJ row is on its way out (Santos)?
As I am planning my cherry trip to AC that would be a most devasting development. Can anyone confirm? If so, what other BJ dedicated areas are there in town?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Cheers Yella man, appreciated. Good to know that Santos St isn't only place to find BJs. Just wondering tho, what is your recommendation if Santos St still operating? Is Black Pearl the best place? And for 500 P, it's 2 hrs, is that right? Ao you can take girl back to room and have numerous BJ shots in 2 hrs? Also, do all hole-in wall BJ girsl allow CIM?
Thanks
Hats off to ya if you can last two hours during a blow job session. Most of the girls their you won't want to BF and take back to the room. However, they will go to your hotel to give the peso 500 BJ if you want. I usually used there rooms instead. My normal day goes like this in Angeles: Pick up a BF or freebie (depending on who texts me that evening) and play with her all night thru the next morning. Feed her breakfast in the morning and then say goodbye. Head to the Black Pearl on Santos to see Lay Lay or Lia (sometimes both at once) for a peso 500 BJCIM, and a few San Miguel Lights. Back to the Hotel for a nap. Then start the process over again that evening. Illusians club on Perimeter is a must try. I have tons of fun everytime I'm in that club. Just loose your inhibitions and the girls will get pretty wild there. There's nothing else to do in Angeles but eat, drink, and fuck! Have a good trip!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]cheers yella man, appreciated. good to know that santos st isn't only place to find BJs. just wondering tho, what is your recommendation if santos st still operating? is black pearl the best place? and for 500 P, it's 2 hrs, is that right? so you can take girl back to room and have numerous BJ shots in 2 hrs? also, do all hole-in wall BJ girsl allow CIM? thnx.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Billy Buxton, each to his own. I've also never been to angeles but hope to go soon. and i'm also intrigued by blow job row. it's more my thing than going into some smokey, noisey bar and having to buy drinks for girls then pay 1000 P+ when I can get a porn-style BJ for half that price from BJ Row. So any info on Santos and if BJ bars are still there would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Go to the jolly frogg,or others in the area you can buy 2-3 one hundred peso drinks sit in the corner and get all the head you want. They will do whatever you want in the upperend bars for cheep. Many bars also have shorttime rooms for on the spot service. Many bars of fields have great service available for less than the big bars on Fields ave.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Go to the jolly frogg,or others in the area you can buy 2-3 one hundred peso drinks sit in the corner and get all the head you want.[/QUOTE]
Hey BB,
Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?
Congrats on the sister act, probably every man's fantasy!
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Had a great night with two sisters from a local fields ave bar ... I then pointed it out to the one with me on the bed and she smiled and said you want to try her? Why the fuck not I said. The younger sister was hands down wetter, horneyier, and better than the bar fly hands down in every way! . Wow, what a deal sisters, and one was the best I have had bieng here for 7 months. ... All in all, be. Fine 1000-p. Dinner 1600-p breakfast400-P and 1000-p to each of the willing sisters. 10 hrs in bed, 3 pops, 2 beautiful sisters, total time 13 hrs all for a c-note. ..Try that shit at home boys!
BB[/QUOTE]
BB:
Congrats to such a perfect session! Yeah, folks, that's AC live - and for that I truly love this place!
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Mattrick]
Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?[/QUOTE]
Yes, almost last stop before Anunas Bridge...
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hey BB,
Where is the JF? Is that on Friendship Hwy.?[/QUOTE]No IT'S ON PERIMETER Road! Take a trike up past the clarkton hotel to the upper gate to enter the base.Go to the left and 1/2 kl down on the right is jollyfrogg and another bar side by side.They have shorttime rooms and also 2 drinks in the corner for a bj.Classey place ha?lets just say, it works!
Girl quality its ok attatude quality is better than fields hands down.
W.B.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]BB:
Congrats to such a perfect session! Yeah, folks, that's AC live - and for that I truly love this place!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]I found out last night that the sisters have a younger one comming of age next week.I think with a little finese I can have that one also.The times are changing for the better.
Hey guys,
I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.
1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?
Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.
One of my chatmates worked there breifly as a waitress and I was wondering what the place was about. Never made it there because she said it never had many customers. Fortunately, I did have time to check her out in more ways than one!
Supermuff diver,
Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words...RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Supermuffdiver69]Hey guys,
I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.
1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?
Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]No IT'S ON PERIMETER Road! Take a trike up past the clarkton hotel to the upper gate to enter the base.Go to the left and 1/2 kl down on the right is jollyfrogg and another bar side by side.They have shorttime rooms and also 2 drinks in the corner for a bj.Classey place ha?lets just say, it works!
Girl quality its ok attatude quality is better than fields hands down.
W.B.[/QUOTE]
Yet another AC expert lol..
The road leading from the (Friendship) gate to the Anucan bridge IS the Friendship Hwy. Actually the long name is Fil-Am Friendship Highway for you nitpickers out there ;)
[QUOTE=Supermuffdiver69]Hey guys,
I want to have a local phone when I get to AC.
1. Should I buy an "unlocked" phone in the US or get one in PI ?
2. Can I buy a SIM Card in PI ?
3. Which service is the best deal and what should I expect to pay for a SIM Card or a "top up" card ?
Appreciate any info you can provide... I'll be there in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
1. Buy a cheap one here in AC, (make sure it's "openline") for max 2000 pesos you will get a nice new Nokia including SIM, charger and warranty. 2nd hand is even cheaper, of course, but the warranty is short or non-existant and the phone is probably more or less pinoyed (ie extra colored backlights, hello kitty covers, keys worn by excessive texting, "fixed" a gazillion times etc)
2. Yes, but usually one incuded with the phone, else get a Smart SIM, 100 pesos.
3. Most providers have various schemes to make your load go away, even Smart, but less so than Globe IMO. You can top up in various ways, electronic load (30 / 60 / 115 Pesos) in any roadside cellphone shop etc, or top up cards for bigger loads (300 + 500 Pesos) info leaflet included with SIM usually.
If you're still clueless when you get here - hit me up with a PM and I'll take you shopping and even help you load your phone. Heck, if there are more newbies out there who want to cut to the chase and not spend time loading phones I can even arrange to have new Nokias with SIM + load delivered to your hotel at the night of arrival. This way you will also know your PI cellphone # prior to arrival...just PM if interested..
Gentlemans,
Will there anybody be in AC tomorrow (17/02), interested in grabbign a bite for dinner somewhere? I can monger by myself, but the help of an old AC hand would be appreciated in finding a decent restaurant.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]I found out last night that the sisters have a younger one comming of age next week.I think with a little finese I can have that one also.The times are changing for the better.[/QUOTE]
Wow, BB:
Great prospects! I'll keep my fingers crossed! Don't forget to tell us part 2 of your story, ok!? :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Supermuff diver,
Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words: RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
Yo Yella Man,
Thanks for the info, I will take your advice for future questions I might have before posting. You'll have to bear with me, as I am a newbee at this BB Forum stuff and am on a learning curve here.
SMD69
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]1. Buy a cheap one here in AC, (make sure it's "openline") for max 2000 pesos you will get a nice new Nokia including SIM, charger and warranty. 2nd hand is even cheaper, of course, but the warranty is short or non-existant and the phone is probably more or less pinoyed (ie extra colored backlights, hello kitty covers, keys worn by excessive texting, "fixed" a gazillion times etc)
2. Yes, but usually one incuded with the phone, else get a Smart SIM, 100 pesos.
3. Most providers have various schemes to make your load go away, even Smart, but less so than Globe IMO. You can top up in various ways, electronic load (30 / 60 / 115 Pesos) in any roadside cellphone shop etc, or top up cards for bigger loads (300 + 500 Pesos) info leaflet included with SIM usually.
If you're still clueless when you get here - hit me up with a PM and I'll take you shopping and even help you load your phone. Heck, if there are more newbies out there who want to cut to the chase and not spend time loading phones I can even arrange to have new Nokias with SIM + load delivered to your hotel at the night of arrival. This way you will also know your PI cellphone # prior to arrival...just PM if interested..[/QUOTE]Pute Nut,
Thanks for the excellent advice.
Your offer sounds like a great deal, I'll be in touch via PM.
Thanks again!
SMD69
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Supermuff diver,
Most of the info you seek is already posted in the forum. Do a quick search and you'll have all the answers you need. In other words...RTFF! If you can't locate the info PM me.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man[/QUOTE]Yo Yella Man!
Thanks for the info, I will take your advice (RTFF!) before posting future questions. I'm a newbee to this BB stuff, so you'll have to cut me a "little" slack while I go through my "learning curve".
~SMD69~
Nifty on the perimeter area also has a short time room. On my first visit I thought i was walking onto a porn set. I sat down next to 1 guy but didn't notice anything at first. When the waitress arrived with the drink, I turned my head to say hi to the guy. To my amazement, his girl was doing HJ with his little boy out in the open. The whole time sitting there, I was praying to god not to let the sprinkler activate.
I took one dancer up to the room. once inside, my buddy texted me. As I was standing up next to the bed texting back, the girl proceeded to take out my hose and gave me a BBBJ. Another girl walked into to the room to get some stuff, peaked at my johnson and said hello. The whole experience reminded me of a Ron Jeremy flick back in the 80s. Only in AC!
I have seen numerous generalizations made, and it's always interesting to see that everyone always thinks they have the right answer. The reason for this? They do have the right answer .. for them! Every guy is different and every girl is different. Different strokes for different folks!
Bar hopping with a bar girl can be fun, but it's not always a sign of respect or even is necessary or expected by the girl. Not all woman are the same! Some like the "respect" angle, others could give a shit. Some already partied the night before and want a quiet night and would just like to have a bite to eat and go back to the room. Some genuinely like you so much, it is truly up to you! Some want to see their friends or be seen. Here's a novel idea .. ask the girl. If she says up to you, then make the best decision you can.
The safety issue is always a concern. I would say the general rules apply. The more people traffic and lighting there is, the safer it will probably be. You are in a third world country and the money in your pocket is probably the equivalent of $10,000 or more in relative buying power for the locals. Think accordingly. I have never experienced or talked to someone, who has run into problems in the lighted areas of Fields. Any issues tend to pop up outside the main active drag.
The waitresses in the bars and girls out front are available. They are not, in my experience, any better or worse. The waitresses are doing that job, because that is their preference. When I have asked, they prefer not to be on stage due to modesty issues. True or not, it seems like a reasonable explanation. The girls out front are there because they are either attractive, outgoing or both. That has nothing to do with how they will click with you and absolutely nothing to do with how good they are in bed. Often times, the quiet ones have more to say that will interest you, instead of just talking your ears off with nonsense.
The wall flower customer vs. the lamp shade on head customer is again, just a reflection of how those people decide to have fun. The guy who is quiet and is observing the action often is having just as much fun as the fool (And I say that in humour only) on the stage. They may be there just for the sex. Is that so bad? You really can party anywhere on the planet, so it's not like you can't make up for that back home. The cheap sex, is what A/C has that not many other places do. Also keep in mind that guys that dance on stage or are the center of attention end up in photos on the internet. Not everyone can afford for that to happen. In those cases, low key is the way to go.
Ok .. I'm off my soap box now!
AT2
Thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum I had a trip of a life time to angeles. I got back yesterday to the states and the depression has set in. I went to ac on the 7th and got there at 2am and the place was jumping! On advice from a aussie I ran into I hit champayne and ran back to hotel with 2 ladies. Was not disapointed for they spent nights with me the whole time there and day time hit the short time places, including a short time with some ladies at dollhouse and illusions. Wow wow wow, valentines day was the best. Not many guys but many girls begging to be my valentine. I felt like a kid in a candy store. Simply wow. Thank you and will return to AC in May!
[QUOTE=Peraxx]Gentlemans,
Will there anybody be in AC tomorrow (17/02), interested in grabbign a bite for dinner somewhere? I can monger by myself, but the help of an old AC hand would be appreciated in finding a decent restaurant.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Anyway, the Italian restaurant on top of Club Lancelot is not bad. They're running a french promotion of sort, at lest what i tried was nto bad at all.
I also went to Salvatore's, not too good.
Saludos.
Try the Bourbon Street Bistro down the street from and on the same side as KoKomo's. I was satisfied with every dish I had there. Wine selections not bad either.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Peraxx]Anyway, the Italian restaurant on top of Club Lancelot is not bad. They're running a french promotion of sort, at lest what i tried was nto bad at all.
I also went to Salvatore's, not too good.
Saludos.[/QUOTE]
Always a pleasure to help!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=SuperMuffDiver69]Yo Yella Man!
Thanks for the info, I will take your advice (RTFF!) before posting future questions. I'm a newbee to this BB stuff, so you'll have to cut me a "little" slack while I go through my "learning curve".
~SMD69~[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]I have seen numerous generalizations made, and it's always interesting to see that everyone always thinks they have the right answer. The reason for this? They do have the right answer .. for them! Every guy is different and every girl is different. Different strokes for different folks![/QUOTE]
Man, I have been wanting to say this for a couple months now, so thank you for putting it so well. Generalization and assumption is human nature, but it can be a bit irritating when you read someone who 'has all the answers' nitpick the style of others. I have always had slightly different tastes and needs than most, and through this board have always acquired enough background and information to seek out what [b]*I*[/b] am seeking. In return I post my experiences as an information resource merely to be considered by the brothers on the board, not for formal critique.
I have been very successful by my tastes in my travels, but I know what I like is not for everybody. I tend to go a bit slower in my quest for better hotels and better ladies to create the relaxing fantasy encounters I do not get back in the states. Others meanwhile are looking for quantity or budgetary success, while more still are on a photo hunt. Whatever their reasons, I applaud them when they are successful and share their experiences; I do not post to the ISG for accolades or to 'put my dick on the table' to see who's is bigger. We post here to keep each other informed; the ladies and the house has it's game together, so we need to have ours as well if we are going to be able to confidently find what we're looking for while avoiding the traps.
Well said, and thank you for saying it. Now, I am off to create that perfect fantasy... :)
2J
[QUOTE=SuperMuffDiver69]Pute Nut,
Thanks for the excellent advice.
Your offer sounds like a great deal, I'll be in touch via PM.
Thanks again!
SMD69[/QUOTE]
You're very welcome, SuperMuffDiver69, just let me know a few days before your arrival and I will have it ready for you. I presume you'd prefer a cell # with 69 somewhere in it if available, right? I will see what I can do, but chances are that here in AC they're all taken :D
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]
The wall flower customer vs. the lamp shade on head customer is again, just a reflection of how those people decide to have fun. The guy who is quiet and is observing the action often is having just as much fun as the fool (And I say that in humour only) on the stage. [/QUOTE]
Very well put. The problem is that the whole scene is so unprofessional and poorly managed in AC that the "wall flower customers" needs are very often overlooked. Unfortunately very few mamasans run a tight ship and tamad jollibees are, unfortunately, very common in AC. Case in point..I couldn't help laughing last night passing one of the perimeter bars - the door girls were checking out the latest Avon catalog so naturally all potential customers passing by were duly ignored :D
On a positive note, I checked out the Hotel Tiger last night and was pleasantly surprised. This hotel on 126 Narciso St is w/in walking distance from Fields and looks like a good deal for the budget-minded traveller.
Rooms are available @ 1000 P per night and up with weekly/monthly discounts of 10 and 15% respectively. If you need a good, clean hotel with all the basics and then some more thrown in for good measure, this is it. The hotel is really wired (and -less): inhotel and inroom wifi..PLUS...LAN connections...PLUS..a complete Internet connected PC set on each floor..all of this at no extra cost for guests. Book early, they have been more or less sold out since opening. No surprise.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]You're very welcome, SuperMuffDiver69, just let me know a few days before your arrival and I will have it ready for you. I presume you'd prefer a cell # with 69 somewhere in it if available, right? I will see what I can do, but chances are that here in AC they're all taken :D[/QUOTE]Yeah, Pute Nut, can you get me 696-6969. Just kidding!
I'll give you a holler before I leave.
Thanks!
SMD69
Folks,
I am a very relaxed and GFE sort of guy, I like to talk with my girl and create a nice relaxed atmosphere to aid in the humping that will come later. But even a guy like me occasionally runs into a blabber that will not just shut the hell up, forcing me to be an asshole to get them to leave. Usually, they are trying to get out the door as fast as possible, but not this one.
[red][b]Warning: This girl told me that she is checked weekly by a doctor, but it is a physical exam only, NO BLOOD IS DRAWN FOR TESTING. Thus I can only assume these girls ARE NOT BEING TESTED FOR HIV![/b][/red] If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I would love to be proven wrong. So all the more reason to be as careful as possible.
I started bar bouncing at around 11PM or so, stopping in a few clubs to make my way down Fields. I did not make it far, as I eventually went into Angelwitch and started flirting with some of the girls there. There were some real cuties, but the one that stood out was a 6-7 in looks but absolutely naughty in her behavior and with wonderfully natural breasts. Still, I tried to LD another model looking girl, yet it was Roselle in her persistence that one me over. Personality usually counts with me.
So I bought her an LD, which she drank slowly. Another point in her favor, and she let me fondle her and smiled and winked, et cetera. Part of me wanted to move on, but I figured it was my first night and there would be time for that. Of course, more stunners came and went offstage, and I knew I should hold out, but I ended up barfining Roselle for 1300P. I made sure beforehand that she was willing to perform and was not menstruating.
We went to La Pasha afterwards for a quick drink and to ogle girls together, then back to my room at the ABC Hotel. The room is very plush, and she clearly was impressed by the upscale amenities. She wanted to watch some porno, which is provided on two channels of the hotel's cable. This got her in the mood, so we went and showered, then back to the bed. This is where is was a let down, she did not do anything wrong, but the BBBJ was only mediocre, and this was after I spent 20 minutes chowing her lunchbox to excellent result (for her).
Then we went to the sexual positions where she was responsive but always on bottom, at some point I like to take a break and let the woman be on top so I can concentrate on my enjoyment. She didn't even try to get on top, even with my requests. So I started to lose steam and my erection. She gave me HJ to completion, which was not very good.
I then also noticed blood on the sheets. I figured maybe I hurt her a little when I hit her cervix. Whatever, I was not in the mood for her to stay, so I asked her to leave. She resisted, saying she really liked me and wanted to stay with me for LT. I got a little annoyed, but them I remembered that these girls do live in squalor surrounded by noisy girls, with no aircon, and screaming babies, so my conscience bit me and I relented. She then clung on to me all night like a facehugger from the movie Aliens, but I did not mind to much.
In the morning, the bed looked like a murder seen; turns out she IS menstruating, and it was the thickest I have seen in a long time. She was watching porno and playing with herself, and she wanted me to fuck her, but there was no way that was going to happen with the mess down there, so I accepted a somewhat better BBBJ (mostly to shut her up) and gave her a surprise CIM ending ("I didn't know I was cumming, just like you did not know you were menstruating, baby"). Then she would not shut the fuck up. I will not bore you with the details, but she kept saying the same shit over and over in an attempt to stay, win me over as a boyfriend, charge her cellphone, whatever.
I then got firm and told her she needed to leave. All of her delay tactics were met with my telling her I knew all the tricks. It was a relief when she left. This is very atypical of me, as I am usually very sociable with my girls, but this one was just low class and did not excite my cerebral erogenous zones. She is clearly a very horny 22 y/o who likes sex, but she has a lot to learn.
So, I should have done a few things different:
1) I should have moved on from bar to bar for awhile to survey the scene; if the girl you like is not there if/when you return there are [i]plenty[/i] of others to fall back to.
2) I should have started by telling the girl that I was interested in ST, and maybe LT if things go well. That way I could have booted this chick a little easier than by cutting LT so short.
3) Unless she is a smiling stunner, I should have taken a little time before buying her LD to give myself a chance to check out the other talent.
The above could be wrong as well, this was my first time going out in AC. I will hopefully do better tonight! :)
2J
[QUOTE=Too Jaded][red][b]Warning: This girl told me that she is checked weekly by a doctor, but it is a physical exam only, NO BLOOD IS DRAWN FOR TESTING. Thus I can only assume these girls ARE NOT BEING TESTED FOR HIV![/b][/red] If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I would love to be proven wrong. So all the more reason to be as careful as possible.
[/QUOTE]
Weekly checkup consists of an assembly-line visual inspection and a smear. This will (obviously) only detect some of the potential problems, but hey, it's better than nothing. HIV tests are few and far between. This is a third world country. Caveat emptor.
[QUOTE=Flying Sky High]Thank you for the info. Do they have a website you can book from as I could not find it if they do?. If anyone out there has there contact information or the cost for a monthly rental please post it for us will you? Your kindness in doing so will be greatly appreciated by me and I am sure many others.[/QUOTE]
Hello Flying Sky High,
Well, the monthly should run P 25.500 and up according to their discount scheme. (If you plan on staying in AC for several months there are other options available in AC that may provide even better value IMO, though)
Ironically their card doesn't list neither e-mail nor website address. I'll try to extract some more info next time I'm in the area, possibly already tonight
Also I'll be happy to PM you their contact nos asa your PM box is up.
Cheers, PN
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Weekly checkup consists of an assembly-line visual inspection and a smear. This will (obviously) only detect some of the potential problems, but hey, it's better than nothing. HIV tests are few and far between. This is a third world country. Caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the clarification. I actually expected that with the prevalence of do-it-yourself blood tests now that there was some type of more complete testing in such a popular destination as AC, especially given the focus on ASEAN business exchange and tourism. What really concerned me was not the fact that they do not do a blood test, but that this girl (and presumably others) thought what weekly checks they do recieve checked for everything. She was honestly perplexed when I asked her casually about the blood test, she said "No, doctor push on my abdomen, do smear, check everything...". Meanwhile this girl like many would have provided BBFS without question.
Education is key to prevention, so I guess it is ultimately up to us, as everywhere, to keep ourselves safe by being smart and minimizing risk for ourselves, the working girls, and any ladies we might have waiting for us back home. We're all human, and I for one have succumbed to alcohol and temptation in the past; I am pretty sure we all have and some of us will continue to do so. Just be advised and be careful.
Sorry to soapbox, but I just thought this was relevant information to pass on to others like me who are new to the AC scene.
2J
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Thanks for the clarification. I actually expected that with the prevalence of do-it-yourself blood tests now that there was some type of more complete testing in such a popular destination as AC, especially given the focus on ASEAN business exchange and tourism. What really concerned me was not the fact that they do not do a blood test, but that this girl (and presumably others) thought what weekly checks they do recieve checked for everything. She was honestly perplexed when I asked her casually about the blood test, she said "No, doctor push on my abdomen, do smear, check everything...". Meanwhile this girl like many would have provided BBFS without question.
Education is key to prevention, so I guess it is ultimately up to us, as everywhere, to keep ourselves safe by being smart and minimizing risk for ourselves, the working girls, and any ladies we might have waiting for us back home. We're all human, and I for one have succumbed to alcohol and temptation in the past; I am pretty sure we all have and some of us will continue to do so. Just be advised and be careful.
Sorry to soapbox, but I just thought this was relevant information to pass on to others like me who are new to the AC scene.
2J[/QUOTE]Its our fucking choice and dont let their snotty attitude guilt you into riding bareback. Checkup my arse. Dont like condom, dont like condom-blah, blah, I have weekly checkup. Yeah , right - just as I suspected.
Even when they do HIV test in the Philippines, they are totally unpredictable. True story which happened personally to me (I am not inventing anything here to look interesting):
- 2 years ago: too much drink in AC with a tiger girl, boom boom several times without condom;
- GFE with tiger girl, I ask her to make a test to local hospital; results not ready;
- I leave Philippines; 2 weeks pass (Christmas); e-mail from Tiger: please call me this is very urgent. That's it, she has it.
- I do my test 2 weeks later in Belgium (that's 5 weeks after the act): negative.
- One year later, I do another test in a good hospital of the Philippines; wait 1 week for the results (as part of a full check-up);
- Results arrive: negative. At exactly the same second, the girl chat with me in Yahoo (what she had not done for a year - talk about a coincidence). I ask her to re-do the test. She tells me: "I know, I did it again and they say that I don't have it".
- Last test 2 months ago: negative.
Well fellow mongers, that was a kind of stressing experience, and you'll understand that I cherish my condoms now.
2Jaded,
I already had 3 TIMES that experience with girl on period. Philippino girls are really far behind Thai girls for sex education - they have their advantages (speak English), but they can be a pain on that level... My patience has faded now, and I guess they still do it because we have good-hearted - need to tell them in advance: "if blood, you are out of room and no money".
Enjoy AC, and we wait for your next adventures on clean sheets.
[QUOTE=Flying Sky High]Thank you for the info. Do they have a website you can book from as I could not find it if they do?[/QUOTE]
Flying Sky High,
Visited Tiger Hotel again this evening and they told me they are indeed happy to take bookings via mail or yahoo messenger, please see their website for additional info:
[url]http://www.tigerhotel.co.nr/[/url]
or
[url]http://sstiger.awardspace.com/[/url]
I was talking with members of management at the Blue Nile, Neros, Bedrock, bars and they say the new electronic gaming machines might not be happining. They made the investment and got the equipment and now political pressure is saying we are not sure we will let this happen. I am sure that the local governing powers want to fleece mor cash out of the owners to operate.The thing is they have already paid a huge sum to get to the stage they are at now.
Some things never change,lies,promises,and smiling faces.Great ways to get your new friends in the mood before the last tear drop falls.
Staying on top,
B.B.
PN, can you tell me more on the other options? Month2month rentals, etc? I'll be in for about 3-4 months in the fall. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Hello Flying Sky High,
Well, the monthly should run P 25.500 and up according to their discount scheme. (If you plan on staying in AC for several months there are other options available in AC that may provide even better value IMO, though)
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dafacer]PN, can you tell me more on the other options? Month2month rentals, etc? I'll be in for about 3-4 months in the fall. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Dafacer,
My point was basically that while Tiger sure is a very good deal @ P900 daily (weekly prepaid rate) their monthly rate just drops an additional 5 % and 25 k Pesos monthly still gives you quite a lot of purchasing power in the rental market in AC. A decent unfurnished apt can be rented for 3-4000 P/month and up (sans utilities) on a yearly basis, so the various long term serviced/furnished apts cannot deviate too much from that...
There are so many options available, including the hotels in Diamond Subd (requires a little legwork or a jeepney/trike ride), where you will probably be able to get good long term discounts.
Just let me know your ballpark budget and any specific requests such as walking distance, kitchenette etc and I'll try to suggest the best AC LT rental bang for your bucks.
Cheers PN
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Too Jaded ! There must be some veneer left ! I agree with you, and I am a guy that hates condoms. But lets be sensible. If not you stand a good chance of spreading something when you get back![/QUOTE]One last note on the subject: most of the girls in AC are banging or have banged several local guys who never use condoms. Not using raincoats in AC (or anywhere for that matter) is rolling the dice with Joe Black. Not smart.
All,
The girl I reported on a little earlier apparently gave me a little something extra: a staph urinary infection. I started suffering the obvious symptoms yesterday after she left.
Managed to locate an excellent doctor via the web at [url]http://www.angelescity.com/std_doctor.html[/url], named Dr. de Guzman, out on Perimeter Road. I asked him how this could happen given how careful I was, and he said it was probably from unprotected oral sex. He even let me look in the microscope to see the little fuckers for myself. Fortunately it will be easy enough to clear up with a shot and some antibiotic pills, but what really pisses me off is that it puts me out of action for the rest of my trip, just when I got to AC.
For anyone finding themselves in a similar situation, I can recommend this doctor and his staff, who were professional and friendly. They are located just past Oasis on Perimeter in the COMMUNITY MEDICAL SERVICES building. No appointment is necessary.
It could have been worse, but I wish you all better luck than I had on this trip.
2J
You can tell he is the right doctor he has only 1 hand. No pun intended he is ok and most foreigners use him. He cleared up abad case of pnumonia I had last sept no problem with him.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]All,
Managed to locate an excellent doctor via the web at [url]http://www.angelescity.com/std_doctor.html[/url], named Dr. de Guzman, out on Perimeter Road. [/QUOTE]Too Jaded,
Great hint as you are certainly not the first one who caught a souvenir from a cuty! :)
Get well soon!
Cheers,
Hesekiels
The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.
The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Too Jaded !
I don't think I am going to start recieving CBJs[/QUOTE]Neither am I, brother, even after this setback. I think if you have the girl brush her teeth and you make sure to take a good [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] afterwards to clean out the pipe you can minimize your troubles. I was just particularly susceptible I think given the fact that I have been mongering all across asia for the past six weeks straight, so between the travel stress, poor diet, lack of sleep, my previous prostate issues and this girl's dental hygiene it was bound to happen.
So the lesson learned for me is to shorten my extended mongering expeditions to no more than five weeks next time, and follow my own advice above. :D
2J
Good info TJ
I think I got the same thing last visit. 2 days after the bj, my little boy started to feel tingly. A day later, it started to excrete milky stuff. I was scared but more scared to go to the doctor. I got myself some antibiotics and got rid of it. It took a bit longer than if I had used professional help.
I have received numerous BBBJ before but that time was unusually long and the girl might have scratched the tip of my little boy, hence the infection.
wish someone had posted this before so I wouldn't feel so scared.
[quote=too jaded]neither am i, brother, even after this setback. i think if you have the girl brush her teeth and you make sure to take a good [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] afterwards to clean out the pipe you can minimize your troubles. [/quote]
better yet make her use listerine (tm) and hold the toothbrushing, it can cause bleeding in (bad) gums. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] & wash (tm) suggestion is a very good one.
it's incredible that so many guys do these girls bb. regardless how cute, sweet and gfe they are - they do suck and and fuck guys (including some very skanky looking ones) from all over the world for money. hygiene does a good job weeding out the obvious sti and they do even ground girls permanently on occasion...but whatever these girls will bs about $$$ is what they care about. after coming back from a bf they will not discuss the possible exotic pleasure they had from being eaten out by the service-minded mongerer (a filipino will not lick a girl "down there"), the size of the dick or if the condom broke. actually, they don't care very much about that. their first topic of discussion will always be: how big was the tip?
they don't really know/care much what stis they get, more than to what extent it will be noticed and cause them a problem at checkup. and they certainly don't bother much about what they will pass on to the mongerers.
case in point. i was talking to a non-bargirl who is contemplating working in a bar. i mentioned a girl she knows about who was taken out of action permanently by hygiene and asked her "do you want to end up like her".
- yes, she has a nice cellphone now!
- wow then she can use it and call her folks back home and tell them about her sickness..
- yes, well at least she experienced the feeling of being rich!
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.
The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Running your mouth to the cops (even if you are right) is probably the worst thing you can do. THEY ALWAYS HOLD THE UPPER HAND. This sounds like a typical shake down where some guy, probably half drunk was targeted. In a situation like this consider a few things:
THESE GUYS MAY NOT BE REAL COPS, having badges, guns and uniforms means nothing, so much more so for "plainclothes"
Cops in the PI are notoriously corrupt,they can get away with anything, their word against yours and yours dont count. BUT...if you have DONE NOTHING WRONG, NEVER PAY ANYTHING, had this been me and they threatened me with arrest, I would have said, "Sure sir, I will go with you to the station. I have no choice, since that girl also picked my pocket when she pulled down my pants and took P1000 I had, I'm sorry I cannot settle with you here. I will probably ask the Sergeant to have her arrested." This said politely and respectfully. If I was close to a bar, I would also claim I was headed inside, loud enough for the door man or anybody hanging around outside to hear, good chance the person might step in and intervene, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH THE COPS
If they are NOT real police it throws them a curve, believe me they dont want to wait around and be discovered by the real cops, they are gambling on a quick hit, high intimidation tactic. Same thing IF they ARE real police, worried their little bullying scam comes to light. (Likely their Supervisor is NOT in on the deal as he is supposed to be and he'll be pissed). They will also take issue with their female accomplice later, probably throw an ass whipping on her for holding out the P 1000 she "stole" from you.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS maintain your cool, ALWAYS be polite and respectful, Play stupid if anything but DONT act like a typical foreigner, loudly asserting your rights etc.
USE YOUR BRAIN NOT YOUR MOUTH.
regards
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]The newest deal here now is getting arested for indeasent exposure. There was a british guy that had a gal come up behind him and pull his shorts down. The police were waiting in sight of the guy and then closed in for the scoop. They wanted 2500-p but after his friend and himself yak yaked to them payed 7500-p each. Yes each, the reason for the second guy was he wondered over to see whats up and ran his mouth and went with the cops also.
The gal was nowhere to be seen after she saw the guys off in the van. Another great situation here now going on here in AC.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
BB...do you know (approximately) when and where this scam took place?
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS maintain your cool, ALWAYS be polite and respectful, Play stupid if anything but DONT act like a typical foreigner, loudly asserting your rights etc.[/QUOTE]
Very good advice Spamhog, although sometimes it can really impress filipinos if you can quote certain Republic Acts (in a cool, calm and collected way). Actually if you ARE right, did NOTHING wrong and look like you are determined to prove it, they will often start to feel a little uneasy. And when you feel like they are ready to drop whatever scam they were trying to pull...make sure to provide a nice way out that preserves face of all parties involved.
In the case related to us by BB I think the guys should just look at the payment as a Stupidity Tax and move on. But it's a funny story. Thanks BB :D
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Running your mouth to the cops (even if you are right) is probably the worst thing you can do. THEY ALWAYS HOLD THE UPPER HAND. This sounds like a typical shake down where some guy, probably half drunk was targeted. In a situation like this consider a few things:
USE YOUR BRAIN NOT YOUR MOUTH.[/QUOTE]SH, once again you are a shining beacon of reason, too bad it is not always exemplified by others (myself included).
I think this advice extends to anywhere outside your 'own back yard'. Why be stupid and challenge the machismo of an authority that has an advantage over you? If you comply, the worst that can happen (unless you are patently guilty) is you have to go back to the station and pay the 'fine' there unless you want to wait for the consul to come whenever they can. I do not see it going that far for such a farce unless you are guilty or did something else to draw the ire of the cops.
However in most cases I would have to say that you will put them off game and remove yourself from the 'fast and convenient' target category. If you force them to take you back to the station there is paperwork and explanations, all while they are not on the street hustling some other poor slob. Or if they are just con artists, what more can they do?
Of course, if you are in a dark alley outside the public view: I would do the smart thing and give them whatever they want. But you are inviting such trouble by being in said alley, of course!
Thanks, Mr. Hog! I apologize for posting so much stupid BS but being out of commission in AC has left me with little to do except post stupid shit. I can't even drink until tomorrow, doctor's orders. :(
2J
BBBJ or FS took me a little time to learn my lesson. But after spoiling a few trips because of not using a condom, say two days after arrival catching C or G or what ever, and leaving in say 10 days, it became clear to me that I was ruining my trips. Now maybe it is just my luck but by staying the condom route I bang for the all the 10 days. Little note, if you have not been lucky to catch one of these C or G and if you think taking a leak is hard and really painfull believe me it is impossible to drop a load. Just my story. Keep smiling and choice is a beautiful thing.
Thanks a million PN. Walking distance I'd like to keep under 20min or so, I would need furnished with all the amenites (A/C, kitchen, secure, quiet, ect) budget is pretty flexible as I won't be slumming. 10,000/month?
Thanks again! T
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Dafacer,
My point was basically that while Tiger sure is a very good deal @ P900 daily (weekly prepaid rate) their monthly rate just drops an additional 5 % and 25 k Pesos monthly still gives you quite a lot of purchasing power in the rental market in AC. A decent unfurnished apt can be rented for 3-4000 P/month and up (sans utilities) on a yearly basis, so the various long term serviced/furnished apts cannot deviate too much from that...
There are so many options available, including the hotels in Diamond Subd (requires a little legwork or a jeepney/trike ride), where you will probably be able to get good long term discounts.
Just let me know your ballpark budget and any specific requests such as walking distance, kitchenette etc and I'll try to suggest the best AC LT rental bang for your bucks.
Cheers PN[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]BB. Do you know (approximately) when and where this scam took place? [/QUOTE]This shit happened 5 days ago. And I talked first hand to the two guys on Wednesday. They are on there way to subic now. I would just like to say they are quiet well manered guys from England. One was a younger kid 30 at best and well manered. He was the one that had the gal pull down the shorts. The other guy could be 40 at best. They are ok with the deal they just said they know how easy it is to get extorted from here.
Play safer,
B.B.
[quote=pute nut]better yet make her use listerine (tm) and hold the toothbrushing, it can cause bleeding in (bad) gums. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] & wash (tm) suggestion is a very good one.
it's incredible that so many guys do these girls bb. regardless how cute, sweet and gfe they are - they do suck and and fuck guys (including some very skanky looking ones) from all over the world for money. hygiene does a good job weeding out the obvious sti and they do even ground girls permanently on occasion...but whatever these girls will bs about $$$ is what they care about. after coming back from a bf they will not discuss the possible exotic pleasure they had from being eaten out by the service-minded mongerer (a filipino will not lick a girl "down there"), the size of the dick or if the condom broke. actually, they don't care very much about that. their first topic of discussion will always be: how big was the tip?
they don't really know/care much what stis they get, more than to what extent it will be noticed and cause them a problem at checkup. and they certainly don't bother much about what they will pass on to the mongerers.
case in point. i was talking to a non-bargirl who is contemplating working in a bar. i mentioned a girl she knows about who was taken out of action permanently by hygiene and asked her "do you want to end up like her".
- yes, she has a nice cellphone now!
- wow then she can use it and call her folks back home and tell them about her sickness..
- yes, well at least she experienced the feeling of being rich![/quote]this is somewhat relevant to the above message. i met this tall beautiful pinay that worked at an internet cafe on fields avenue (internet cafe is no longer there), her name was rina guzman.
she agreed to meet me in the lobby of clarkton hotel after she got off from work. surprisingly, she came to meet me. after talking briefly in the lobby she suggested we go to my room. one thing led to another and before you know it we were having sex.
after that she wanted to go to the mall which we did. she took me by surprise when she asked me to buy her some clothing, being a sucker for her beauty i did.
she stayed with me at the hotel for the remainder of my stay in angeles. all was nice until i returned to the states to find that she had given me chlamydia. i was fortunate that i didn't get anything else.
had i known that pinoys don't eat pinays, then i would have known that her asking me to eat her was indication that she was getting it from tourist that "go down," or that i wasn't the first tourist she had been with.
i should know better, but here's my question, is it safe to assume that all woman that work on fields, at non-bar-associated jobs, bar-girls?
i haven't been in contact with her for awhile, anyone else know who i'm talking about?
Vroooom, sorry to hear about that experience. can you clarify? you caught chlamydia via giving her oral sex, or by not using condom when having intercourse?
as for bbbj, i'm always worried about them (i'd NEVER go BB with intercourse), but i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?
V,
No it's not safe to assume that all girls who work in jobs other than the bars are bar-girls. Some of them may have been in the past, and some of them will be in the future, but I have met quite a few girls who work in restaraunts, malls, and other stores who make less than $3.00 a day, but who still won't turn to the promise of fast cash by working in the bars. But you must understand that it doesn't matter where the girl works. After being in Angeles all their lives, or however long they have been there, they start to get a sense of how easy it is to make money on the side from foreigners. They do this without guilt, and in their minds it's not prostitution. It's all about economics. "We have" and "They want"! So they figure out all kinds of ways to make us give what we have, to them. Of course they give us some poon in return, but only to help us lighten our pockets. I still love the place though!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom]This is somewhat relevant to the above message. I met this tall beautiful pinay that worked at an internet cafe on Fields Avenue (internet cafe is no longer there), her name was Rina Guzman.
She agreed to meet me in the lobby of Clarkton Hotel after she got off from work. Surprisingly, she came to meet me. After talking briefly in the lobby she suggested we go to my room. One thing led to another and before you know it we were having sex.
After that she wanted to go to the mall which we did. She took me by surprise when she asked me to buy her some clothing, being a sucker for her beauty I did.
She stayed with me at the hotel for the remainder of my stay in Angeles. All was nice until I returned to the states to find that she had given me chlamydia. I was fortunate that I didn't get anything else.
Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays, then I would have known that her asking me to eat her was indication that she was getting it from tourist that "go down," or that I wasn't the first tourist she had been with.
I should know better, but here's my question, is it safe to assume that all woman that work on fields, at non-bar-associated jobs, bar-girls?
I haven't been in contact with her for awhile, anyone else know who I'm talking about?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?[/QUOTE]
Never a bad idea to take any precautions as its always better than nothing. But, Remember that antibacterials only kills Bacteria and not Virus. Most of the stuff you buy will only say Anti-bacterials. Always remember that HIV and Herpes are Viruses so only using protection will be safest method.
PT
[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom] ... Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays ...[/QUOTE]
Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?
Cheers - Hesekiels
the newest deal getting the guys here in a world of shit is paying street kids for a pack of gum. Yes I am sure you and I have felt bad for the dirty little people selling a pack of gum. Well, this is a new trap just the same.
Get this a person is watching you pay the child selling the gum to you and snapps a photoof you putting the cash in the kids hand. The thing is the photo will not show the gum they are selling. You are touching a child and this issought out to be attempted whatever they want to say.
True, false, you be the judge, all I can say is no more money to street children asking for money. Who wants to be the next guy up in front of a judge telling your side with photos backing up the charge.
Staying on top,
B. B.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]That would be pretty consistent with most Asian cultures/sexual practices.
They don't go down as a norm.
Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.
My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.
Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.
Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.
Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)
I have a good story to share.
I have always been a big advocate of condoms on these trips. I usually take a hundred or more with me and whatever I dont use, I hand out to the ladies in the end.
There was one trip where I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom.
Then it was time to get back on the plane and head home. I got off the plane at my home country and went into the bathroom. My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime. It was as if there was an open wound at the tip of my penis and someone was pouring alcohol all over it.
Unfortunately, it was night time when it happened at the airport and I couldnt go to my doctor until the morning. I almost felt like just going to the emergency room, but this was a matter that I felt I had to take up with my private doctor rather then deal with it at the public emergency room. It was a long night sleeping with my dick on fire. As soon as that doctor's office opened at 8am, I was in there. I got the prescription for the antibiotics and I remember this long wait at the pharmacy. I hurried them up the best I could saying that I was late for work, but the real reason was flaming penis.
Well guys, this was the most uncomfortable feeling I have had in my entire life. I have barebacked many women back in the states, but I have never caught anything. The entire experience was a big eye opener and taught me a lesson.
Yes I have had a few HIV tests since and am negative.
I have broken bones before and been in accidents. However, the feeling that your dick is on fire is like none other. Its a very private part of your body unlike your hand and if anything happens to it, then your stuck. Luckily, this was all curable and worked out for the better.
It was embarassing trying to explain to the doctor. I didnt tell him that I went to the Phils and picked it up, just told him that it was some woman I was dating.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Vroooom, sorry to hear about that experience. can you clarify? you caught chlamydia via giving her oral sex, or by not using condom when having intercourse?
as for bbbj, i'm always worried about them (i'd NEVER go BB with intercourse), but i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]I have a good story to share.
I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom ... My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime ... [/QUOTE]
While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?
Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.
My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.
Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.
Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.
Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)[/QUOTE]
Interesting report but WTF does TJ have to do with AC?
Actually, chlamydia has no symptoms in 80% of the people affected. The test they would have to run weekly on all the girls would cost quite a bit of money, so I'm assuming the clinics do a visual and maybe a smar that doesn't go anywhere but the trash (cost effective). Remember, it's a requirement to be tested in order for the girls to hold their entertainment license. So they go weekly and get the once over. Who says the clinics are actually doing their jobs? In the States it takes 3 to 7 days for results to come back. Imagine how many mongers a girl can infect in that amount of time? It's really simple...cover that rascal up or pay the consequences.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?
Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Interesting report but WTF does TJ have to do with AC?[/QUOTE]The report is not about TJ. Its about crooked cops and my take on how to deal with them. I believe its applicable in AC, TJ, BKK, etc.
We all have to realize that many guys do not use condoms with these ladies. These guys are usually the ones who travel about to all of the countries. Whatever these guys caught in one country, they will spread it to someone else in another country.
I see more photos without condoms then with. I oftentimes see guys bragging on how they went "bareback". I dont believe its easy to catch an STD like HIV, but if a guy has sex with over 100+ different women in a year all over asia then the remote odds seem to increase exponentially.
Its nice to do it without a condom. Doing it with someone you just started dating back in your home country is one thing. Usually that date is someone who doesnt have sex everynight with "mongers". However, doing it with a prostitute who has had sex with countless guys (Guys who have had sex with countless prostitutes I might add) is simply asking for a disease.
So to sum it up for everyone here. Yes, there are diseases in these countries and if you dont wear condoms then you will get something at some point in time. For myself, I got lucky and all I went through was flaming urination. There are lots of other diseases with different consequences. If you dont want to deal with the conseuqences, then use condoms.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?
Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?
Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Yeah, be careful with local condoms, especially with that flavored shot called ``Trust``. Yes, once it broke right in the moment of climax and it broked totally in pieces.
Another time I had this surprise with those green oily local condoms.
Best bring your own reputable supply !
Krum Lov,
I got it on my penis, I assumed that since she was working at the internet cafe that she was not a bar-girl, meaning that I assumed she wasn't going with mongerers, however, that was a mistake on my side.
I don't know if she got the chlamydia from a genuine bf or if she was servicing mongerers on the side of her internet job, but, at any rate, it taught me my lesson to put on the rain coat regardless of where she is working.
She's a good looking lady, so I'm sure many other guys were trying to get her in bed, and since the internet cafe was on fields, then chances are she took a few offers.
Play it safe gentlemen.
My first trip I used a condom all the time, but on this last trip when I started using viagra and was horny all the time I slipped up and only used one every now and then. When I got back to Oz I was feeling a bit crook with a touch of flu or cold and started thinking the worst thoughts. I've had the clap once before many years ago and can still remember the pain in my dick - just not worth the risk!
But this time I got lucky and now after almost 2 months back I know I'm okay. But the worry about the stupidity of the risk I was taking has made me swear to myself that next trip I will be covered up each time - well maybe the BJs I'll take a chance!
The odds are stacked against us my friends in places like AC and Manila - bareback is playing russian roulette with your dick!
Try to think with the big head not the little one!
My 2 cents worth anyway!
Cheers,
Pete
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Actually, chlamydia has no symptoms in 80% of the people affected. The test they would have to run weekly on all the girls would cost quite a bit of money, so I'm assuming the clinics do a visual and maybe a smar that doesn't go anywhere but the trash (cost effective). Remember, it's a requirement to be tested in order for the girls to hold their entertainment license. So they go weekly and get the once over. Who says the clinics are actually doing their jobs? In the States it takes 3 to 7 days for results to come back. Imagine how many mongers a girl can infect in that amount of time? It's really simple, cover that rascal up or pay the consequences.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man[/QUOTE]If a girl has a problem she will be put on appropriate medication and flagged for extra screening upon subsequent visit(s) or taken out of action if deemed necessary. Hygiene is doing a good job given their limited resources IMO.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]
Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Get OKAMOTO condoms. You can find them in pharmacies such as Watsons in SM and even in Nice & Nawty on Fields if memory serves. Okamoto is a Japanese brand designed primarily for Japanese/Asian users, so sizes vary and you might want check package for size of the particular type before buying, especially if your member requires XL. Durex brand is also available (along with several others) but the sensation is really inferior to that of Okamotos IMO.
Avoid Trust, a cheap "local" brand (actually mfd in Malaysia). It has quality problems and a dick-limping rubber smell.
Another tip for condom buyers in Phil: Try to purchase them from a reputable, airconditioned shop if possible. Or better yet, stock up on condoms before you come here. Watsons in HK, for instance, carries many more Okamoto styles and last time Watsons HK even gave me a free gift. (Not one of the kind that keeps on giving..it was actually a condom carrying case. )
[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom]Krum Lov,
I got it on my penis, I assumed that since she was working at the internet cafe that she was not a bar-girl, meaning that I assumed she wasn't going with mongerers, however, that was a mistake on my side.
I don't know if she got the chlamydia from a genuine bf or if she was servicing mongerers on the side of her internet job, but, at any rate, it taught me my lesson to put on the rain coat regardless of where she is working.
She's a good looking lady, so I'm sure many other guys were trying to get her in bed, and since the internet cafe was on fields, then chances are she took a few offers.
Play it safe gentlemen.[/QUOTE]So working in the internet cafe, you could say she had a virus. I wonder if she picked it up there.
Krum Lov,
Please give us a name or at least the cafe name. I find it hard to believe you'd want to protect the identity of someone who gave you? (Oh, is here a name for that?)
X
[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom]Krum Lov,
I got it on my penis, I assumed that since she was working at the internet cafe that she was not a bar-girl, meaning that I assumed she wasn't going with mongerers, however, that was a mistake on my side.
I don't know if she got the chlamydia from a genuine bf or if she was servicing mongerers on the side of her internet job, but, at any rate, it taught me my lesson to put on the rain coat regardless of where she is working.
She's a good looking lady, so I'm sure many other guys were trying to get her in bed, and since the internet cafe was on fields, then chances are she took a few offers.
Play it safe gentlemen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Get OKAMOTO condoms. You can find them in pharmacies such as Watsons in SM and even in Nice & Nawty on Fields if memory serves. [/QUOTE]An excellent hint, brother! I'll try to get OKAMOTO's when I'm there in 5 weeks time!
Cheers,
Hesekiels
X-Man,
You need to ask Vrrrroom that. He's the one who told the story, not me.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Pete The Beat]But this time I got lucky and now after almost 2 months back I know I'm okay. But the worry about the stupidity of the risk I was taking has made me swear to myself that next trip I will be covered up each time - well maybe the BJs I'll take a chance!
The odds are stacked against us my friends in places like AC and Manila - bareback is playing russian roulette with your dick!
Try to think with the big head not the little one![/QUOTE]Hi PTB,
Just a bit of friendly information. HIV seroconversion can happen around 6 months after exposure (meaning tesing for the first 6 months might be negative). Not trying to scare you, just passing on info. Bacterial infections would have already shown up by now.
-M
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]when I'm there in 5 weeks time![/QUOTE]See you then, Heze!
My flight is confirmed.
By the way, my last trip on CNY was tremendous, mostly in Perimeter bars.
Arrived for 5 nights with 400USD, at the end I was almost running outta cash.
Heavy flow of beers for me and ladydrinks and BJ's.
And BF of course. :D
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Manfest]Hi PTB,
Just a bit of friendly information. HIV seroconversion can happen around 6 months after exposure (meaning tesing for the first 6 months might be negative). Not trying to scare you, just passing on info. -M[/QUOTE]Actually that's a bit outdated. Modern HIV tests will detect HIV antibodies w/in 30 days for most people and max 3 months for (almost) all. If you're worried and have the money regular test + PCR-DNA HIV will detect it from day one, basically.
Cheers,
PN
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]PCR-DNA HIV will detect it from day one, basically.[/QUOTE]Day one is a bit optimistic IMHO, better say day-3 onwards. But it's true, PCR detects the virus itself and doesn't need any antibodies.
These 3-6 months often being told are those with old Elisa and Western Blot tests from the 80ies and 90ies.
Stay safe!
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Day one is a bit optimistic IMHO, better say day-3 onwards. But it's true, PCR detects the virus itself and doesn't need any antibodies.
These 3-6 months often being told are those with old Elisa and Western Blot tests from the 80ies and 90ies.
Stay safe!
Cheers![/QUOTE]You're right, better err on the safe side...additionally there may be some days in between where it may go undetected. A negative re-test @ 3 months can be regarded as conclusive though.
Lads,
Just a few questions:
1) When getting BJs in a places like black pearl, etc, will girls always allow CIM, or should it be insisted on before hand?
2) Cost is 500P, correct? any chance of slight discounts?
3) Is 500P session just one pop, or for 1-2 hrs and numerous pops?
4) Anyone had 2 girls who also play with each other? is that a possibility?
5) Last, is it safe walking around santos ave and fields during daylight hours and early evening? completely safe, right?
Thanks,
Krum
I would say yesfor themost part if you have a lit area you are ok.The lower end of santos st is not agood idea after dark.The street just after wild orchid resort is a no no after dark.The street runs the same side as the resort and ends at the mcarther hw, next to johnnys supermarket.The gals dont even go that way after sundown.
Honkeytonk bar is a good place to stay away from anytime.The gals are not looking for love just getting your cash by hook or crook.The mummasang went to jail two nights ago because she hit a foreigner in the head.The police tookher away in the van and the foreigner went up the street with no complications.
The place is known for ripoffs and overcharging when you have had more than enough to drink.I know a guy that lost his phone there and a large sum of cash to boot.Do what you want but the place is not good.Check out the A-C2 website for more info.
The best deal waslast night a friend of the guy that got slapped got his revenge.He lobed a plasticbag of human waste inside the bar covering the mummasung.WOW,I bet she will thinkbefore she beats down a foreigner again.
B.B.
1. CIM is par for the course, better ask anyway. My last visit (Heaven Bar) the babe saw a bag of candy in my room, I take little performance enhancing gifts with me, and I told her I would give her a gift if she performed well. She actually tried to suck the excess cum from my dick.
2. Ordinarily 500p for short time + tip.
3. Negotiable.
4. Negotiable, had two work on me, then do some playg with each other. Again, get it all straight befoe you pay. To me, that convesation is half the fun.
5. I have been there at 2pm and 4am - no problem. However, I would not go beyond the Wild Orchid.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Lads,
Just a few questions:
1) When getting BJs in a places like black pearl, etc, will girls always allow CIM, or should it be insisted on before hand?
2) Cost is 500P, correct? any chance of slight discounts?
3) Is 500P session just one pop, or for 1-2 hrs and numerous pops?
4) Anyone had 2 girls who also play with each other? is that a possibility?
5) Last, is it safe walking around santos ave and fields during daylight hours and early evening? completely safe, right?
You may want to give "Shandra" at the Black Pearl a try - nice looking, fun, and knows her trade.[/quote]
Thanks Bill and Billpsu. Apprecaited. Wow, sounds like the area around and beyond wild orchid is pretty dodgy. Tho I notice black pearl is in that section. Also, was thinking about staying at the central park hotel, which is sort of in that area. Do you think that hotel is ok?
Billspu, when you said you had candy in your room, she went back to your hotel room? Or you got BJ in back room of heaven bar? If in hotel room, it was 500P for one shot? Also, with your experience with 2 girls, were they genuinely enjoying each other, or was their lesbian act more an "act"?
Thnx,
Krum.
K.L.
You get what you pay for in the santos area.The good thing is they all want the cash and its a great place to startthe day with a bj for stres preasure reduction.The quality is not as high as fields in most cases but verry passable.Be careful of the street action and keep your cash close tothe vest in the shorttime bars also.The small hands are allways moving is search of your stash.
The shorttime prices are good in the area and you can get some numbers out of the gals for hotel service later on.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Lads,
Just a few questions:
1) When getting BJs in a places like black pearl, etc, will girls always allow CIM, or should it be insisted on before hand?
2) Cost is 500P, correct? any chance of slight discounts?
3) Is 500P session just one pop, or for 1-2 hrs and numerous pops?
4) Anyone had 2 girls who also play with each other? is that a possibility?
5) Last, is it safe walking around santos ave and fields during daylight hours and early evening? completely safe, right?[/QUOTE]1. CIM is part of the course, . Nobody is announcing them. Some are anticipating but most don't. Taking them by surprise is part of the fun.
2. Are you joking? Are you going to negotiate 2-3 buks?
3. Yes, if you can have 2-3 pops within 30 min. Practically you cannot have. So 1 its enough. For the Perimeter area, instead of 700 ST you can upgrade to 1000 LT as have as many pops as you want within 24h.
4. Not really, you can take them but they are acting if anything
5. Generally safe. Yes
Last note: personally I would not BBJ on Santos. ! . Not even on Perimeter. Although I did it here and there! The girls on Santos are at the bottom of the lad.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Thanks Bill and Billpsu. Apprecaited. Wow, sounds like the area around and beyond wild orchid is pretty dodgy. Tho I notice black pearl is in that section. Also, was thinking about staying at the Central Park hotel, which is sort of in that area. Do you think that hotel is ok?[/QUOTE]Central Park (at almost P 1700) is certainly aimed at the price-wise Santos BJ connaisseur. If memory serves they even give out discount coupons redeemable on Santos "100 P off on any BJ + guaranteed CIM" :)
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]I agree with this report, although I do believe the S/T fare is $600 on Santos with usually no discount ![/QUOTE]True. It's 600ps nowadays.
Cheers!
600P? Damn. And that's strictly just one shot, or is that for a couple over an hour or so?
Looks like I'm finally coming to angeles for 1st time soon, so sorry for all the questions. Does anyone recommend an actual BJ shop in fields/santos that has better-than-average service? And a shop that has girls who'll touch each other if I take 2 girls?
And on a different note, is there a good restaurant in that area that has good steaks/western food? (no asian, since I live in asia).
Pute, are you saying that 1700P is cheap for hotel in that area? That's actually expensive for me! Any comment on actual hotel? Is it ok?
Finally, how much is taxi from clark airport to santos? Are they metered? How long is the drive? And should I arrange a hotel car to pick me up instead of taxi?
Cheers, and thnx!
Krum
Sorry, another thing: Can anyone recommend a really good legit, non-sexual massage place? Maybe even one of those blind people ones? And if so, how much/location?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]See you then, Heze! My flight is confirmed.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Ekspat, indeed great to know that you will be around as well! I look, however, forward to meeting you again!
So, my friend, simply let's continue with our daily standard program then (1 pm: breakfast / 3 pm: bbbj in Perimeter Road / 8 pm: dinner / until 1 am: barhopping at Fields, then: bedroom olympics / breakfast, etc. and inbetween plenty of SM beer!), ok? Life can be so easy!
See you soon,
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=X Man]Krum Lov,
Please give us a name or at least the cafe name. I find it hard to believe you'd want to protect the identity of someone who gave you? (Oh, is here a name for that?)
X[/QUOTE]Her name was Rita Guzman.
I don't remember the name of the cafe.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]600P? Damn. And that's strictly just one shot, or is that for a couple over an hour or so?
Looks like I'm finally coming to angeles for 1st time soon, so sorry for all the questions. Does anyone recommend an actual BJ shop in fields/santos that has better-than-average service? And a shop that has girls who'll touch each other if I take 2 girls?
And on a different note, is there a good restaurant in that area that has good steaks/western food? (no asian, since I live in asia).
Pute, are you saying that 1700P is cheap for hotel in that area? That's actually expensive for me! Any comment on actual hotel? Is it ok?
Finally, how much is taxi from clark airport to santos? Are they metered? How long is the drive? And should I arrange a hotel car to pick me up instead of taxi?
Cheers, and thnx!
Krum[/QUOTE]Try Kokomo's aka Mo's place-lots of yummy chicken dishes, meatballs, Aussie rissoles, American style brgers, real French fries- actually some of the best food i have had in Asia.They can also do western style breakfast too.
Looks like I'm only going to make it for 2 nights, damn. So was thinking, since I don't like noisy/smoky bars/dancing, and favor the BJ bars/hole in walls, would I be better just staying in perimeter section, where there are BJ places like illusions/club Rio/nifty's? Is that are cheaper for BJs than santos in main town? If so how much?
Also, has anyone stayed at hana, appartelle royal, marlim mansion or premiere hotel? If so, your comments? And are they near illusions/club Rio/nifty's BJ bars?
Last, is field/santos are closer to airport, or is perimeter rd closer?
Thnx once again,
Krum
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Does anyone recommend an actual BJ shop in fields/santos that has better-than-average service? And a shop that has girls who'll touch each other if I take 2 girls?
And on a different note, is there a good restaurant in that area that has good steaks/western food? (no asian, since I live in asia)...Finally, how much is taxi from clark airport to santos? Are they metered? How long is the drive? And should I arrange a hotel car to pick me up instead of taxi?
Krum[/QUOTE]My favorite BJ shops are Black Pearl or Honky Tonk. Also say hi to my buddy Mary Ann at Club Rio off Perimeter. Girls vary but most pretty good. Best western food at good prices is definitely Margarita Station on Fields. Private taxi from the airport to Fields is 200p, less for minivan with several people.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Sorry, another thing: Can anyone recommend a really good legit, non-sexual massage place? Maybe even one of those blind people ones? And if so, how much/location?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]One massage is by the Philippina Casino and the best is in the SM mall. Both are 500 peso. The One by the Casino is called Golden Massage I believe and they are just a little bit rough for my taste. The other is in the mall and is really good. Hope this helps . 500 peso for each.
Sailor Man
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Looks like I'm only going to make it for 2 nights, damn. So was thinking, since I don't like noisy/smoky bars/dancing, and favor the BJ bars/hole in walls, would I be better just staying in perimeter section, where there are BJ places like illusions/club Rio/nifty's? Is that are cheaper for BJs than santos in main town? If so how much?
Also, has anyone stayed at hana, appartelle royal, marlim mansion or premiere hotel? If so, your comments? And are they near illusions/club Rio/nifty's BJ bars?
Last, is field/santos are closer to airport, or is perimeter rd closer?
Thnx once again,
Krum[/QUOTE]Everything is relatively close together. Is it that you are on a budget?
As to airport, are you flying out of Clark or Manila? If so, it is not really going to matter where you stay, but Perimeter Area is a little closer.
If you stay at Apartelle Royal, ask for rooms 1-5. Inexpenxive places like Patio, Cold Drop Inn, Sunset Gardens, Clarkton are near Perimeter Bars. DM Residente(chreap), Royal Apartelle is near Field/Santos.
My favorite Perimeter bars are: Gentleman's Club, Nasty Duck, Thigh Hi's (you can short time in back room).
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]I agree with this report, although I do believe the S/T fare is $600 on Santos with usually no discount ![/QUOTE]I've stopped in when things were slow and gotten 500 pesos. Just have a take it or leave it attitude. I disagree that the girls here at the bottom. Things change and you can find some nice looking girls here sometimes. Make going to these bars part of your routine. Just stop for a beer and don't plan on taking someone, just socialize. There are no lady drinks here, so there is no pressure. Now and then there is a new girl that is very appealing.
One cop shot dead and another on his way out in a foiled hold up in AC.The area is mountianview and this is the way you go to city hall.The story is a hold up of a van was stopped by police with one cop shot dead at the scene and another in bad shape on the way to the hospital.Not many details available but this is what we do know at this time.Updates later.
Keep your whits about you and play safe.
B.B.
Are you kidding? The Santos girls are hideous. Take a look at this one for example. I found her hanging out with the Firestone gays. I met her as Carla and later saw her at a pen pal site as Irish.
That would be a hell of a thing. Meet a girl online, marry her, and then find her picture here explaining that she used to give $10 blowjobs in AC.
X
[QUOTE=FireWalker]I disagree that the girls here at the bottom. [/QUOTE]
I have seen lots lof reports about hotels in AC. I am looking for one in or near the action that is girl friendly with a Jacuzzi in room. I dont want to pay 100-150 a night but am not looking for a cheap $20 place either. Also was is the bet way for transfortation from Manila? Taxi Rates? I have also seen mentioned Fly the Bus. What is this about.
Any help is appreciated I will be traveling the end of April and will be looking for some drinking buddies.
JIMBO
Jimbo, I just posted in the Manila section. You will find some answers to your questions.
X Man
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]club Rio/nifty's? Is that are cheaper for BJs than santos in main town? If so how much?[/quote]
Santos Rd is cheaper than Perimeter bars.
[quote]
Last, is field/santos are closer to airport, or is perimeter rd closer?[/QUOTE]
Perimeter is closer to DMIA, but it doesn't matter. There isn't any metered taxi, they'll charge 200ps from both places and for walking it's way to far.
Man, if you're on such a tight budget, is it fun to travel at all?
You might consider rainy season, at that time there are some discounts here and there.
Cheers!
Jimbo,
Here is the scoop.
Dont bother with the in-room Jacuzzis in Angeles City. It fills up VERY slow and sometimes the heater doesnt work so well. You will sometimes find yourself jumping into a lukewarm jacuzzi. My jacuzzi was NEVER hot. Dont forget the tap water may not be suitable for drinking so you dont really want to take a bath in it. They are also not so large and you will find it tough manuevering around in them with a lady. They will also make the room more humid. Remember that its a tropical country with lots of humidity.
Here are my recomendations for you:
You can get a decent room for about 30 bucks a night. There is a restaurant downstairs that serves excellent Westernized food. The bars are a SHORT walking distance away. Literally they are right there. The guy who owns this place is an engineer and so the windows are double pained. The rooms are very quiet. Great if you need to sleep without sound.
[url]http://www.swisschaletph.com/en/index.htm[/url]
Another place is the Hotel Royal Amsterdam. It seems fancy on the inside and there is a restaurant downstairs. The bars are located right across the street. I suggest getting the Superior Room and make sure it has couches. If your on a tight budget, you can get away with the lesser rooms. Its fun to screw on the couches, but lets face it, all you need is a bed to have fun.
[url]http://www.hotelroyalamsterdam.com/rooms.htm[/url]
Central Park Hotel
Short walk to the action and basically a no-frills hotel. Swiss Chalet is right down the street. $33 a night.
[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/hotels/central.html[/url]
Here is another one. Blue Nile. Action right across the street. Actually, the action is right downstairs. The VIP room is 63 bucks a night
[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/hotels/blue_nile/index.html[/url]
Orange Lion $40 a night...Action right across the street.
[url]http://www.orangelionhotel.com/index_files/Page592.html[/url]
HERE IS THE ONE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. Action is a short walk down the street. Mirrors on the ceiling and jacuzzi, $55 a night.
[url]http://www.apartelleroyal.com/[/url]
Here are two links to a bunch of other hotels:
[url]http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url]
[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/hotels.html[/url]
You have to remember a few things about this place:
1. Once you get there, all you will want to do is screw. All there is to do is screw. So things like a pool really dont matter. I stayed at the Orchid Inn once which had a pool and all I did was look at it the entire time. I was either screwing or sleeping the entire time I was there.
2. Once you leave, all you will want to do is go back. These trips can get expensive and I made three trips back in the course of a year. The more you spend on one trip means the less you can spend on future trips. The more you spend on the hotel room means the less you can spend bringing back ladies.
3. All you need is a bed and a private space to screw. Thats it.
I stayed at the Orchid Inn and the Hotel Royal Amsterdam. I would recommend the Amsterdam, Apartelle Royal, Orange Lion, Blue Nile and Swiss Chalet. I would go with the more basic rooms and try to keep it under 40 dollars a night. The $30 a night rooms at the Swiss Chalet are not bad and the location ideal. The bars are just a 30 second walk away.
I would be partial to the Hotel Royal Amsterdam, Orange Lion, and the Blue Nile. The bars are right across the street.
As for transportation, just ask the hotel to send a driver to the airport.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]I have seen lots lof reports about hotels in AC. I am looking for one in or near the action that is girl friendly with a Jacuzzi in room. I dont want to pay 100-150 a night but am not looking for a cheap $20 place either. Also was is the bet way for transfortation from Manila? Taxi Rates? I have also seen mentioned Fly the Bus. What is this about.
Any help is appreciated I will be traveling the end of April and will be looking for some drinking buddies.
JIMBO[/QUOTE]
Thanks Good times for the hotel reviews and contact info.
Your point one is a bit incomplete and somewhat contradictory.
There is more to do than screw. For example, you can drink, screw and sleep. I usually do it in that order. I suppose the drinking and sleeping go without saying, but then you could say the same thing about "screwing". In fact, sleeping is one thing you might find yourself doing a lot less of. Or at least sleeping at times you usually wouldn't.
BUt why forego the pool? It's bloody hot, so take a swim. You need to burn of those beer calories, so take a swim. The go-go girls work all night in "bikini's", so go for a swim. If the girls don't have swimsuite and no one else is around*, they'll swim in their panties or less, SO GO FOR A SWIM!
I've heard there is a new SM mall in AC, so I suppose you could go shopping. Has anyone been there. How far is it from Fields and how do you get there?
***I've heard there are pickpocket gangs at the mall, so be careful. One scenario is using a pregnant woman to bump block or bump you, while others accidently bump you from the back, while lifting your wallet.
X Man
* Generally, the pools don't have a closing time.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]e:
1. Once you get there, all you will want to do is screw. All there is to do is screw. So things like a pool really dont matter. I stayed at the Orchid Inn once which had a pool and all I did was look at it the entire time. I was either screwing or sleeping the entire time I was there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]I've heard there is a new SM mall in AC, so I suppose you could go shopping. Has anyone been there. How far is it from Fields and how do you get there?[/QUOTE]
X-man,
The mall is next to the main gate.
So 5-10 minutes, walking distance from Fields.
Cheers!
Has anyone stayed at this hotel its close to fields hotel and 10 minutes waik to the new sm mall ! thanks!!
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2] Dont forget the tap water may not be suitable for drinking so you dont really want to take a bath in it. [/QUOTE]
Actually BWSI water is more or less potable (for deep wells all bets are off of course). It's not the Balibago water that's making some AC pools unsuitable, rather the various (bodily) fluids and other stuff that are added lol.
Best deal in town right now has to be Tiger Hotel. Newly opened in Dec 06, all basic amenities: aircon, ref, inroom wifi, LAN, safe. Clean. Walking distance to Fields (actually a few yards shorter than ABC Hotel) and only 1000 Pesos a night, 10% weekly discount. Can't beat that IMO.
I've got reservations set to arrive in the Phils on April 2. I've been told by a couple of Filipinas I met on Yahoo that starting the first week of April is "Holy Week" and many of the bars close and the girls go home to their provinces for a few days.
Is this true? How big of an impact will this have in EDSA, Burgos St, and Angeles City? Do the fun places turn into a ghost town during the first week of April? Is it bad enough to consider moving my trip back a week or two?
Hello Gentlemen
I'm returning to AC next month and would like to visit a beach for a few days. Can anyone recommend a beach resort town? I don't mind flying. Also, how many days should I go for? I'll be in AC for one week. Thank you.
Egg
With only one week your best bet might be Subic bay. There might be some reports in the "other distinations" section. You can find a bus schedule "fly the bus" at swaggy.com
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello Gentlemen
I'm returning to AC next month and would like to visit a beach for a few days. Can anyone recommend a beach resort town? I don't mind flying. Also, how many days should I go for? I'll be in AC for one week. Thank you.
Egg[/QUOTE]
there are many options if you have a few days.
the closest is subic bay which is next to olongapo. the beach is not the best, some say its 'scummy' and there are a number of hotels and 'resorts' (i use the term resort loosely here!) which are on or near the beach. there are a few go-go bars and other drinking holes to take care of your nightlife needs.
from clark airport you can fly to boracay island which is famous for its beaches. hotel options are varied there from cheap to 5-star so there is something for everyone's budget. you have to be expecting many white foreigners on holiday there, which may or may not be to your liking. there are no go-go or girlie bars there and there are not many girls in the way of 'freelancers' either. a single guy can still score if you've 'got game' and/or are decent/young looking. otherwise, byo girl!
mindoro island is just south of luzon (the island where ac and manila is located). mindoro has famous beaches such as sabang and white beach, and the main port is puerto gallera. this area is famous for dive sites rep001tered along the coastline. to get there, you need to travel to manila, then get a bus to batangas port (about p160). from batangas there are decent sized catamaran ferries which will take you to sabang, pg or white beach. sabang has a good nightlife scene with many gogo bars and girls ready to go with you. this is the prime location to be situated for diving. the beach is pitiful and the bay is full of boats, so it is not great for swimming. puerto gallera is central but you would not want to stay there. a trike will take you to any hotel for p50-100 (some are 10kms away). white beach is very beautiful, has great swimming, restaurants and bars and the people serve you well.
there are thousands of other beaches that you could visit, but these three areas are the most popular and easiest to get to for the ac tourist. good luck and enjoy your time there!
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Cannot speak for Manila, but I have been in Cebu and A/C during holy week. Its a real drag. Almost everything is closed starting Thursday in the pm.
It was amazing to see Cebu, on Good Friday around 1pm, with almost no traffic.
I always plann my trips in such a way as to avoid any mongeringing during this time.
QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I've got reservations set to arrive in the Phils on April 2. I've been told by a couple of Filipinas I met on Yahoo that starting the first week of April is "Holy Week" and many of the bars close and the girls go home to their provinces for a few days.
Is this true? How big of an impact will this have in EDSA, Burgos St, and Angeles City? Do the fun places turn into a ghost town during the first week of April? Is it bad enough to consider moving my trip back a week or two?[/QUOTE]
The best thing about AC is that they have lots of travel agents on-site. You can go there and simply go to one of the travel agents that will have everything you can think of hooked up...
I would also ask the hotel driver. He drives all over the place and would know of everything that is around. I never went to the beach, but I heard the driver can take you there for a fee. Cant remember the fee, but I imagine it would be similiar to that of going to the airport.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I've got reservations set to arrive in the Phils on April 2. I've been told by a couple of Filipinas I met on Yahoo that starting the first week of April is "Holy Week" and many of the bars close and the girls go home to their provinces for a few days. Is this true?[/QUOTE]It is true that "Holy Week" is always a big event in the Philippines! And yes, a number of girls will go home to their provinces then. However, I am pretty sure that there are still enough cuties around and virtually no bar in AC will close during Easter - the show must go on! BTW, folks, has anybody experienced "Holy Week" in AC?
Cheers - Hesekiels
Any reviews on this place? I know it is a bit off of the beaten path but would like some info if possible.
Thanks,
Jimbo
My personal preference is to just deal with hotels that are on Fields Avenue (or a short walk away). The reason is that you can get drunk at the bars and just stagger back to the hotel across the street. Its easier for the women to meet you real quick for a on the side rendezvous. No dealing with trike drivers or walking through places you dont know. Then the best of it all is the walk across the street and pickup the chick thing.
Swagman or those other hotels might be good. In fact, I know places like the Holiday Inn offer a better room then some of the ones on Fields, but you just cant beat simply walking across the street to pick up the ladies and bringing them right back to the room.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Any reviews on this place? I know it is a bit off of the beaten path but would like some info if possible.
Thanks,
Jimbo[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]Swagman or those other hotels might be good. In fact, I know places like the Holiday Inn offer a better room then some of the ones on Fields, but you just cant beat simply walking across the street to pick up the ladies and bringing them right back to the room.[/QUOTE]Holiday Inn (inside the base) is the best hotel in Angeles. It is run by professionals. They will offfer transportation to and from Fields in their tax-excempt vehicles. A snapshot of a Holiday Inn branded van dropping off guests in Fields may not be the photo of choice for a Holiday Inn marketing campaign though ;)
Is it best to wait until I am there to get a hotel? I dont mind booking on line with a big hotel chain but not sure about these places. Also I would like one with a pool. I do like to spend my days in the sun somewhat. what are the best ones on Fields Avenue with a pool.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]The best thing about AC is that they have lots of travel agents on-site. You can go there and simply go to one of the travel agents that will have everything you can think of hooked up...
I would also ask the hotel driver. He drives all over the place and would know of everything that is around. I never went to the beach, but I heard the driver can take you there for a fee. Cant remember the fee, but I imagine it would be similiar to that of going to the airport.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct it is a similar price to be driven by car to Subic. Most private cars to Manila charge P2500, which is terrible considering that at the current exange rate it equates to 52USD. Marguerita Station has vans which can seat up to 6 adults to Manila for P2500 and sedan cars for P2100. The cars are more comfortable and can travel faster down the new expressway. All tolls are included in the price (which amount to about P300).
To get to Subic, the common charge is around P2000 which is fleecing the tourist badly (typical for AC which is renowned for exhorbitant transport fees eg. trikes for P50-100 for very short journeys). Some hotels have a free van pickup service if you are staying with them and I believe that Mo's Place can get you there for P400. Go to Mo's to ask for details (if you are reading this post much later than March 2007, the name might have changed as he has supposedly sold all of his AC businesses).
If you book a driver through your hotel you will be ripped off even more. An example is Orchid Inn charges P400 to drive you to Clark Airport!! Central Park is cheaper for a single person at P300, but they have the audacity to charge another P250 for each additional person. Simply outrageous.
A cheaper and more flexible option is to go to Avis Car Rental on Perimeter road and enquire about renting a car. They often have special deals running which can save you a bundle. If you have a current drivers licence from your home country that should be ok (as long as you dont break any traffic laws). Some tourists also have an international drivers licence which might help a little, but if the police have decided that it is your turn to 'make a donation' then there is very little that you can do about it. I have never had a problem driving a car or riding bikes in all parts of Asia, but perhaps I have been lucky with that. Avis also has a fleet of taxis and drivers which are available for any trip you need and their prices could be slightly less than what you can find through an agent. There service is also more professional as they are carrying the corporate image with them.
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[QUOTE=Hesekiels]It is true that "Holy Week" is always a big event in the Philippines! And yes, a number of girls will go home to their provinces then. However, I am pretty sure that there are still enough cuties around and virtually no bar in AC will close during Easter - the show must go on! BTW, folks, has anybody experienced "Holy Week" in AC?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]I would certainly avoid AC during Holy Week. The number of girls that leave AC or do not work makes it resemble a shadow of its current self.
The bars will not close, but their opening hours might be modified. The atmosphere during this week is very docile and you might be disappointed if you have been waiting a long time to return and travelled a long distance to get there. If you can change your plans, it would be more of a guaranteed great time if you arrive a week after Holy Week has finished.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Any reviews on this place? I know it is a bit off of the beaten path but would like some info if possible.[/QUOTE]Stayed at this hotel last December, so I can give you some incite on this property.
It is located in the Diamond subdivision about a 15 minute walk to Fields Ave. The Koala and Patio hotels are also located next to Swagman and have cheaper prices. My room was around P1600.
The advantage of staying here is that it is quiet and for the comeraderie, especialy if you are Australian. It seemed that the majority of the clientele was over 60 and retired. The rooms are clean and in good shape dispite their age. The staff was very friendly and helpfull. Their business center with internet access came in handy. They also have a travel agency on sight.
The best part of the property is their spacious bar and restaurant across the street. The food is good and the drinks are cheap. Never saw anybody swim in the tiny pool.
They do have free shuttle service to Fields running until 2 am. Get the drivers cell number so you can call him to pick you and your lady up. This service was popular and I had to wait sometimes for a few minutes even though they had 2 trikes going back and forth. If you feel lazy you can skip Fields altogether because there are 3 bars down the street with plenty of girls.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]It is true that "Holy Week" is always a big event in the Philippines! And yes, a number of girls will go home to their provinces then. However, I am pretty sure that there are still enough cuties around and virtually no bar in AC will close during Easter - the show must go on! BTW, folks, has anybody experienced "Holy Week" in AC?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]I would certainly avoid AC during Holy Week. The number of girls that leave AC or do not work makes it resemble a shadow of its current self.
The bars will not close, but their opening hours might be modified. The atmosphere during this week is very docile and you might be disappointed if you have been waiting a long time to return and travelled a long distance to get there. If you can change your plans, it would be more of a guaranteed great time if you arrive a week after Holy Week has finished.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Is it best to wait until I am there to get a hotel? I dont mind booking on line with a big hotel chain but not sure about these places. Also I would like one with a pool. I do like to spend my days in the sun somewhat. what are the best ones on Fields Avenue with a pool.[/QUOTE]Maybe you try Orchid Inn Resort in Raymond Street!? Excellent location, great pool, friendly staff, rooms from 30 USD. For a long time I am a regular guest there. However, it is advisable to make a reservation in good time.
Have a great time!
Cheers - Hesekiels
The Orchid Inn has a pool and is probably the best choice at $55 per night.
[url]http://www.orchid-inn.com/[/url]
Then there is the Wild Orchid Inn and last time I checked it has rooms going for $85 per night.
There are lots of off-Fields hotels with pools. Just Google "Angeles City Hotels".
Personally speaking, I have been to Angeles three times and planning on a fourth. There are bars teaming with women. I wouldnt focus on hotel amenities.
The worst part of the trip is at the end when you have to pay the hotel bill. For some people, a ten day trip will be a matter of $310 if staying at the Swiss Chalet. However, others might pay over $1000 staying at other hotels.
If you just plan on one trip, the difference in price wont matter. It might be worth it to spend more to stay at the Holiday Inn which has a Golf Course and pool or the Wild Orchid Inn.
For myself, I know that I will be going back in the future and so I choose to spend as little as possible so that additional trips in the future wont be a problem.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Is it best to wait until I am there to get a hotel? I dont mind booking on line with a big hotel chain but not sure about these places. Also I would like one with a pool. I do like to spend my days in the sun somewhat. what are the best ones on Fields Avenue with a pool.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]
To get to Subic, the common charge is around P2000 which is fleecing the tourist badly [/QUOTE]
Cheap and nice to Subic:
1. Take a Jeepney to SM Pampanga
2. Take a FX Van to Olongapo from there
3. Take a Jeepney to Subic
Should run less than 150 Pesos total
[QUOTE=Porty]Information on New Pacific hotel[/QUOTE]
Hello Porty,
I believe you mean the Pacific Breeze hotel that opened in December which is owned by the Central Park people. Located on Vian St. just off Santos St. south of Mo's (2 minute walk to Fields). Stayed there last Sunday for just one night ( after Cebu Pacific Airlines cancelled my flight from Cebu to Clark, more on that later) and was very impressed by the rooms and the level of service. Tried to duplicate Towelboy's stunt of having 5 women in 24 hours but fell short! [url]www.pacificbreezehotel.com[/url]
what is an FX van? Althought the price you mention sounds great, what about if you have a suitcase? I guess you should pay the Jeepney drivers a double fare. What is the fare?
swaggie.com does AC to Subic for 400 pesos.
X Man
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Cheap and nice to Subic:
1. Take a Jeepney to SM Pampanga
2. Take a FX Van to Olongapo from there
3. Take a Jeepney to Subic
Should run less than 150 Pesos total[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]what is an FX van? Althought the price you mention sounds great, what about if you have a suitcase? I guess you should pay the Jeepney drivers a double fare. What is the fare?
swaggie.com does AC to Subic for 400 pesos.
X Man[/QUOTE]
The FX is usually a Toyota Van or similar, usually not bad at all, often even with working aircon. Big suitcases are not recommended, I usually bring a backpack that I can put in my lap if needed, but many times I've managed to secure the front passenger seat, being slightly bigger than the other pax lol. Fx has been as low as 70 Pesos but I think it was 90 last time after the fuel increases. Jeepney fare Dau to SM Pampanga is 20+ (23?) and the fare Olangapo to Subic is peanuts (9-9,50 P ?)
So what do we have?.. 90+23+9...yes total will maybe come in as low as 132 ..but don't be a CC..budget 150 to be on the safe side :D
In theory the Jeepney driver can ask you for double fare for a suitcase (specially if it occupies a seat), but in my exp. they are pretty cool about it. I can't recall ever having to pay extra, and I've even brought quite big ones to and from Clark.
400 P is not so bad if you'd rather avoid the "filipino travel experience". I might just try that some time for a change. The big advantage with FX is that you go anytime ( last FX leaves SM Pampanga around 8-9 PM ) no need to check schedules, book etc.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Is it best to wait until I am there to get a hotel? I dont mind booking on line with a big hotel chain but not sure about these places. Also I would like one with a pool. I do like to spend my days in the sun somewhat. what are the best ones on Fields Avenue with a pool.[/QUOTE]
As mattrick says [url]www.pacificbreezehotel.com[/url] is ok, but 100 meters way from Fields.
You might have to book long time in advance. Big swimming pool. Nice Jacuzzi-rooms about 60 usd, hopefully does not come with this gf :)
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My buddies and I are planning to head down to AC during the week of Good Fiday (aka Holy Week in AC). Will the scenes be subued?
Plus what is the best way to get to down to Manila to AC? Any mongers out there have recomenedations on where we can stay in Manila and hangouts there?
Many thanks
Got in at 7pm at clark airport, picked up by Hotel Hana car (the one-way pick-up was over-priced at 500P), had booked standard room, but looked nothing like photo I saw on internet. It was awful. Decided to leave, which they were ok about. Took a look at Premier hotel next door, which was almost as bad. Then entered Sunset Lodge, which was ok. All the budget rooms I’d seen in the perimeter area were around the 1300P mark, and this one was by far the best.
Went straight up to look at some BJ bars. I’d read here that if you buy 2 drinks in Illusions, you can get a free BJ. I asked the mamasan at the bar about this deal and she nearly died of shocked. She looked at me like I was a freak. I slinked out, tail between my legs, embarrassed. Then checked out Rio and Niftys. Both ok and fairly friendly. Enquired about a 500P BJ, but they were pretty much sticking to 600P. Moved on to Matrix Brawn, asked about BJ, and one OK girl (23 yrs old, 6.5/10) said 500P was ok. Proceeded to back room where she gave me decent BBBJCIM. On way out, saw a young (18-20 yr old) stunner (8.5/10). Damn, isn’t it always the way?
About an hour later, popped into Palace Massage on main road. 500P for 1 hour massage. Was ok quality, not brilliant. Wasn’t even after another shot when at end of massage, the woman said she wanted some “monkey business”. Being a little monkey myself, I agreed to a HJ, which cost me 200P. total: 700P.
Next day, moved into Fields. Booked into Central Park – excellent hotel all round, and for same price as aforementioned digs. Visited Santos St, checked out some BJ bars, Again, a few wanted 600P, but in Black Pearl, a few OK looking girls agreed to 500P. decided to take 2 at once (both 25 years old, one was 6/10, the other 7/10) … went out back. All good, they were friendly and attentive. Blew first time into 1st girl’s mouth as the 2nd girl was sucking my nipples. The 2nd time (about 40 mins later), wanked myself and blew over 2nd girl’s tits as 1st girl was sucking my balls. All up, 1000P.
Next day, walked around corner and found quiet street that had a load of girls in 2 adjoining bars. Again, price was quoted at 600P, but again, negotiated (in friendly manner, of course) down to 500P. got a manila girl (21 yrs old, 7.5/10) who did a pretty good job. And that’s about it – was only there for 2 nights.
Thanks for everyone’s tips before I arrived, it helped a lot.
In the short time i was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
Angeles is one ugly place. Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place -- devoid of anything remotely interesting -- to buy a house or rent long-term there? Sure, the girls are great, but that’s it. And the food’s awful, too. That is, why angeles over phuket, samui, hua hin, pattaya, bali, or even nha trang in vietnam? When I wasn’t getting BJs, I was incredibly bored. No beach, no nice eateries, no parks, nothing.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Got in at 7pm at clark airport, picked up by Hotel Hana car (the one-way pick-up was over-priced at 500P), had booked standard room, but looked nothing like photo I saw on internet. It was awful. Decided to leave, which they were ok about. Took a look at Premier hotel next door, which was almost as bad. Then entered Sunset Lodge, which was ok. All the budget rooms I’d seen in the perimeter area were around the 1300P mark, and this one was by far the best.
Went straight up to look at some BJ bars. I’d read here that if you buy 2 drinks in Illusions, you can get a free BJ. I asked the mamasan at the bar about this deal and she nearly died of shocked. She looked at me like I was a freak. I slinked out, tail between my legs, embarrassed. Then checked out Rio and Niftys. Both ok and fairly friendly. Enquired about a 500P BJ, but they were pretty much sticking to 600P. Moved on to Matrix Brawn, asked about BJ, and one OK girl (23 yrs old, 6.5/10) said 500P was ok. Proceeded to back room where she gave me decent BBBJCIM. On way out, saw a young (18-20 yr old) stunner (8.5/10). Damn, isn’t it always the way?
About an hour later, popped into Palace Massage on main road. 500P for 1 hour massage. Was ok quality, not brilliant. Wasn’t even after another shot when at end of massage, the woman said she wanted some “monkey business”. Being a little monkey myself, I agreed to a HJ, which cost me 200P. total: 700P.
Next day, moved into Fields. Booked into Central Park – excellent hotel all round, and for same price as aforementioned digs. Visited Santos St, checked out some BJ bars, Again, a few wanted 600P, but in Black Pearl, a few OK looking girls agreed to 500P. decided to take 2 at once (both 25 years old, one was 6/10, the other 7/10) … went out back. All good, they were friendly and attentive. Blew first time into 1st girl’s mouth as the 2nd girl was sucking my nipples. The 2nd time (about 40 mins later), wanked myself and blew over 2nd girl’s tits as 1st girl was sucking my balls. All up, 1000P.
Next day, walked around corner and found quiet street that had a load of girls in 2 adjoining bars. Again, price was quoted at 600P, but again, negotiated (in friendly manner, of course) down to 500P. got a manila girl (21 yrs old, 7.5/10) who did a pretty good job. And that’s about it – was only there for 2 nights.
Thanks for everyone’s tips before I arrived, it helped a lot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]
In the short time i was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
Angeles is one ugly place. Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place -- devoid of anything remotely interesting -- to buy a house or rent long-term there? Sure, the girls are great, but that’s it. And the food’s awful, too. That is, why angeles over phuket, samui, hua hin, pattaya, bali, or even nha trang in vietnam? When I wasn’t getting BJs, I was incredibly bored. No beach, no nice eateries, no parks, nothing.[/QUOTE]I won't say that I am the definitive expert on Angeles City, but I have visited countless times over many many years. I am always interested to read a first time visitor's account of their visit and any observations they have of this locale in general.
Nothing I am writing here is a flame, as I am in fact impressed by what you accomplished over two days - sounds like you had a wide range of experiences in such a short time.
A P500 taxi from Clark airport is more than I have ever heard of. Taxis outside the arrivals building will take you for P300. Even P200 to some hotels on Perimeter (eg America Hotel). One of the cleanest hotels that I have seen is the 'Perimeter Hotel' next to Emotions. The rooms there are P1200 and are cheaper if you book for a week or more. Its walking distance to Field Ave and there are a number of bars on the way there.
You are right, Illusions doesnt offer 'on-site relief' and Nifty's is renowned for doing this. Its one of the favourite afternoon bars before starting a barhop. If you buy 3 LDs, they will give you a sample BJ, or if you really hit it off with a girl in there, she might try it on you in your seat for less. P600 is steep, as you can take a girl to your hotel ST for P700. LT is P1000.
If you saw an 8.5 stunner in Matrix Brawn then consider yourself lucky! That is an extremely rare sighting for that bar, which I am yet to barfine a girl from (actually I never last more than 1 beer in there, although some guys like the tiny bar and the girls there).
P500 for a 1 hour massage is too expensive for my AC taste - there are cheaper options for P350 (eg Bodybliss near Norma's money changer). The P200 HJ is ok (although it should be included in the P500 price IMO).
Luck seems to have been on your side again, as Central Park Hotel is always fully booked. Most guests have to book weeks or even months in advance. I have never found a room there after walking in off the street!
The 'quiet street' you mentioned is just past Wild Orchid Hotel, a safe option during the day, but somewhere I never venture at night. There are always some very undesirable people hanging around there which makes me feel like they are waiting to jump you. People have been robbed there from time to time.
With regards to the Viagra/Cialis they sell there, yes it is all fake. I dont think it is dangerous to take as there are probably very few active chemicals in each tablet, but it will have little to no effect, wasting your time, expectations and money.
What I liked the best from your report is the last paragraph that I quoted from you. Yes Angeles is a dirty-dustbowl with filth everywhere. Most mongers just accept this like some other places in Asia (but not many places are as bad as AC!). This question you pose is very insightful: "Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place -- devoid of anything remotely interesting -- to buy a house or rent long-term there?". If you posted this on a major AC discussion board it would probably invoke a record number of responses as so many members actually do live in AC! That question posed here is much safer due to the fact that most ISG members do not live in AC. It is a question that is asked many times but rarely gets truthfully answered by expat residents of AC. I have my own opinion of the truth but can't post it here as it could be considered inflammatory. Let's just say that some people are happy living there because that is what they are used to. Ok I know this is not the real reason, but it answers your question in part.
Take care and I hope you return to AC again one day.
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The tune is getting softer here and the gals are feeling the downward swing.The amount of cash is going south and the amount of customers in the bars at night is lover now than a month ago.I am sure this will help in the attatude dept for the guys that are still here.Five or six guys in a bar with fifety plus girls is not a mix for a good night at work.The staff is sitting half sleeping and the girls are getting slower and slower.The managers want to give the guys deals on ringing the bell so the numbers on sales stay up.
I on the other hand often get 20-p notes a thousand at a time and throw up to the dancers.The gals love this and the bar hates it I am quite sure.The big reason the bar gets no cut of the cash as when you buy ladies drinks.I feel the bars get enough and why not give the hard working little honeys some hard earned jack at face value.After all if a thousand pesos is big loot for a guy I am sure he has been here to long.On the downside be ready to be an unknown to the gals once the cash stops flying through the air.This is just the way it is they get and forget just that fast.Please dont get upset thats the way it is.
Please remember that the season is on the downside so better deals are on the way.The beauty you could never have is getting short on rice at home so just wait.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]
Went straight up to look at some BJ bars. I’d read here that if you buy 2 drinks in Illusions... checked out Rio and Niftys. Both ok and fairly friendly. Enquired about a 500P BJ ... moved on to Matrix Brawn, asked about BJ, and one OK girl (23 yrs old, 6.5/10) said 500P was ok. [/QUOTE]
KL:
Excellent, with this program you hit the spot! BTW, the favorite places of brother Ekspat and me! :)
Cheers- Hesekiels
Any of the hotels in AC will have a driver and you can hire them. You can of course take the bus and there are a few other ways down there. Personally, I feel safest with the hotel driver. I would not want to get on a bus full of strangers in a third world country with all my belongings.
As for hotels in Manila, it depends upon how much you want to spend.
Lotus Garden Hotel
[url]http://www.citygardenhotels.com/[/url]
Right across from LA Cafe which has all the freelancers. LA Cafe is a disco like place and you pick up the ladies inside. For safety, walk out of the disco alone once you select one and tell the ladies to come over to the hotel. The reason is that the police might stop you and you might have to pay a bribe. This is a cheap no-frills hotel, but all you need is a room, bed and the chick.
Oxford Suites Makati
[url]http://www.oxfordsuitesmakati.com/[/url]
Right across the street is the bars and the ladies.
Century Citadel Inn
[url]http://directrooms.com/philippines/hotels/century-citadel-inn-manila-774.htm[/url]
Right in the middle of the action on Burgos.
Copacabana Apartments
[url]http://www.copasuites-manila.com/[/url]
Right across the street is EDSA and lots of bars.
Heritage Hotel
[url]http://www.heritagehotelmanila.com/[/url]
Another one close to EDSA.
Hyatt Casino
[url]http://manila.casino.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp[/url]
Very nice but expensive.
Iseya Hotel
[url]http://www.angelescity.com/iseya_hotel.html[/url]
Cheap no frills place, one block away from LA Cafe. Australian owned. About 25 bucks a night.
Las Palmas
[url]http://www.asiatravel.com/laspalmas/[/url]
Right across from the Hyatt.
Rivera Mansion
[url]http://www.rivieramansion.com/index.html[/url]
Dont know anything about this place.
When in doubt, just describe your situation to the taxi driver and tell him where you want to go.
[QUOTE=Geven2000]My buddies and I are planning to head down to AC during the week of Good Fiday (aka Holy Week in AC). Will the scenes be subued?
Plus what is the best way to get to down to Manila to AC? Any mongers out there have recomenedations on where we can stay in Manila and hangouts there?
Many thanks[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate..its more than what I could ask for. Incidentally, what are rates for FLs in LA Cafe?
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]Any of the hotels in AC will have a driver and you can hire them. You can of course take the bus and there are a few other ways down there. Personally, I feel safest with the hotel driver. I would not want to get on a bus full of strangers in a third world country with all my belongings.
As for hotels in Manila, it depends upon how much you want to spend.
Lotus Garden Hotel
[url]http://www.citygardenhotels.com/[/url]
Right across from LA Cafe which has all the freelancers. LA Cafe is a disco like place and you pick up the ladies inside. For safety, walk out of the disco alone once you select one and tell the ladies to come over to the hotel. The reason is that the police might stop you and you might have to pay a bribe. This is a cheap no-frills hotel, but all you need is a room, bed and the chick.
Oxford Suites Makati
[url]http://www.oxfordsuitesmakati.com/[/url]
Right across the street is the bars and the ladies.
Century Citadel Inn
[url]http://directrooms.com/philippines/hotels/century-citadel-inn-manila-774.htm[/url]
Right in the middle of the action on Burgos.
Copacabana Apartments
[url]http://www.copasuites-manila.com/[/url]
Right across the street is EDSA and lots of bars.
Heritage Hotel
[url]http://www.heritagehotelmanila.com/[/url]
Another one close to EDSA.
Hyatt Casino
[url]http://manila.casino.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp[/url]
Very nice but expensive.
Iseya Hotel
[url]http://www.angelescity.com/iseya_hotel.html[/url]
Cheap no frills place, one block away from LA Cafe. Australian owned. About 25 bucks a night.
Las Palmas
[url]http://www.asiatravel.com/laspalmas/[/url]
Right across from the Hyatt.
Rivera Mansion
[url]http://www.rivieramansion.com/index.html[/url]
Dont know anything about this place.
When in doubt, just describe your situation to the taxi driver and tell him where you want to go.[/QUOTE]
Hello All
I will be flying from AC to Bangkok next month. I've been in contact with a travel agent in AC. She tells me I can take Tiger Air from Clark to Bkk but I have to stay over night in Singapore. I looked on Air Asia's site and they seem to have same day flights from AC to KL and KL to Bkk with no need of overnight stay. But my travel agent did not mention this option. Has anyone here flown from AC to Bkk on Asia Air through KL? Can this be done without an overnight stay?
Egg
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]In the short time i was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
Angeles is one ugly place. Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place -- devoid of anything remotely interesting -- to buy a house or rent long-term there? Sure, the girls are great, but that’s it. And the food’s awful, too. That is, why angeles over phuket, samui, hua hin, pattaya, bali, or even nha trang in vietnam? When I wasn’t getting BJs, I was incredibly bored. No beach, no nice eateries, no parks, nothing.[/QUOTE]
Definitely has my vote for most soulless pussy pool .
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]In the short time i was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
[/QUOTE]
Virtually all "V" sold in Fields is fake, but most of them do contain the right stuff, more or less. Caveat emptor.
Many "botikas" (quasi-pharmacies) and similar stores will also stock fake V. I'd prefer real Kamagra over fake V but since it's not BFAD listed they may intervene if a shop sells real Kamagra, but let the fake V's slip since it's "listed". TIP LOL.
Hey everyone,
I am a long time reader as well as user of the information shared on this board, and have just signed up to the board, hopefully getting fully activated here to receive PM's within 24 hour's or so.
Back to my point, I am going to be in AC on the 14th of March till the 27th and was wondering if anyone wated to get together. Ill be travelling solo and staying at the Wild Orchid.
I look forward to meeting some of you.
Is there any good italian restaurant?
Something like Saks inside Grande Majestic Hotel in Bangkok.
Is there any good indian restaurant?
Something like Rang Mahal inside Rembrandt Hotel in Bangkok.
I wonder if I am asking too much.
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello All
I will be flying from AC to Bangkok next month. I've been in contact with a travel agent in AC. She tells me I can take Tiger Air from Clark to Bkk but I have to stay over night in Singapore. I looked on Air Asia's site and they seem to have same day flights from AC to KL and KL to Bkk with no need of overnight stay. But my travel agent did not mention this option. Has anyone here flown from AC to Bkk on Asia Air through KL? Can this be done without an overnight stay?
Egg[/QUOTE]I don't know if it's worth all the savings to fly out of Clark instead of Manila if you have to stay overnight in a place you don't want to stay. The cost of the hotel alone will probably be about the price for a cab to Manila airport from AC. Plus you loose a night or two both ways if you cannot get a good connecting flight. I don't like spending 1. 5-2 hours in a car myself to get to that crappily run airport in Manila either, but I rather do it than stay overnight in Singapore for the costs and stuff. I have done the Tiger Airways deal and to me it doesn't work out right when you cannot connect out of Singapore on the departure and/or return. It gives you another night or two in the PI flying into Manila. Once more direct flights out of Clark to other Asian countries like Thailand happen it would probably be well worth the time and costs. The cost to and from the Manila airport for private taxis is pretty ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Key Master]I don't know if it's worth all the savings to fly out of Clark instead of Manila if you have to stay overnight in a place you don't want to stay. The cost of the hotel alone will probably be about the price for a cab to Manila airport from AC. Plus you loose a night or two both ways if you cannot get a good connecting flight. I don't like spending 1.5-2 hours in a car myself to get to that crappily run airport in Manila either, but I rather do it than stay overnight in Singapore for the costs and stuff. I have done the Tiger Airways deal and to me it doesn't work out right when you cannot connect out of Singapore on the departure and/or return. It gives you another night or two in the PI flying into Manila. Once more direct flights out of Clark to other Asian countries like Thailand happen it would probably be well worth the time and costs. The cost to and from the Manila airport for private taxis is pretty ridiculous.[/QUOTE]The cost of private transport is not high at 2500-p thats back and forth for a private car.Where can you get a better deal than that for 50 bucks.Yes you are right you can fly 1 hr in a new aircraft for about the same here for that money but lets face the facts its still cheep.
I have some numbers for reasonable land transporters if anyone wants to use them.
B.B.
[QUOTE=It Traveller]Hey everyone,
I am a long time reader as well as user of the information shared on this board, and have just signed up to the board, hopefully getting fully activated here to receive PM's within 24 hour's or so.
Back to my point, I am going to be in AC on the 14th of March till the 27th and was wondering if anyone wated to get together. Ill be travelling solo and staying at the Wild Orchid.
I look forward to meeting some of you.[/QUOTE]Give me a pm and I will meet you at MO's place just up the street from where you are staying. I'll buy you the first beer . If you pm me I will give you my cell number or set a time and day to meet.
We could meet also at the pool/bar area to the wild orchid. It really is a very nice place and the food and beer are not a bad price. The pool is great there.
Look forward to meeting you, and have a good mongering trip. [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Sailor Man
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[QUOTE=Krum Lov]In the short time I was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
Angeles is one ugly place. Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place.- devoid of anything remotely interesting.- to buy a house or rent long-term there? Sure, the girls are great, but that’s it. And the food’s awful, too. That is, why angeles over phuket, samui, hua hin, pattaya, Bali, or even nha trang in vietnam? When I wasn’t getting BJs, I was incredibly bored. No beach, no nice eateries, no parks, nothing. [/QUOTE]Krum Love,
Enjoyed reading your report, I truly did. Not a flame either, just tongue in cheek. Considering where you choose to go and stay, you would fit right in here as an full time expat. Cheap dirty living.
Now all joking aside. I really did enjoy your report. And I will not go into the details of the cost of things here as some have. Seems like everyone can always get everthing cheaper than anyone else can. Just face it as a monger, you will sometimes get lucky and get a good deal. If you are a good monger and smart, you just do not get taken as bad as a novice tourist. If always getting the lowest price is your goal in life, make up your mind to be sad a lot.
Yes I would rather live full time in Thailand, as I agree with most of your remarks. I like the beach, I like clean, clean, clean things, good places to eat, and do not mind spending a little extra for what I get.
So why stay in a little dirt hole like Angeles?
A. The women speak English. A two week trip to Thailand is about as long as I can handle all the extra work it is to even try to communicate with the girls. After that the joy to work ratio goes in favor of the Philippines.
B. The government. As much as I hate the Philippine Government, they at least do one thing right. They do not make it impossible to stay here as long as I want. That fact alone makes the Philippines more attractive to me.
If I am on a two week vacation from the states twice a year, I would go to Thailand everytime over the Philippines. Maybe take a two or three day stopover here and then go to Thailand, but Thailand would always be my choice over the Philippines.
The Thailand government makes it impossible almost for me to stay there full time with all there stupid regulations. I retired to make life easy and fun. Thailand wake up. You don't want me, ok you don't get me.
3. There is another reason why so many choose Angeles. I can only speak for myself but I know it represents others. We are retired military. We have history here. Also there is a community set up to help us. We get militay benifits here that we would have to work hard to recieve anywhere else.
4. I work hard to overcome many of the things you saw as a big turn off to Angeles. I pay way too much for my place. But at the end of the day, I go through a gate, and I am back in America. I am in a small comunity with a clubhouse, a pool, clean streets, nice homes, and good friends. Also the new SM mall has helped a lot. There you can feel just like you are back in any real world town.
In summary, Yes for a two or three week vacation, Thailand wins for me hands down. For a retired single American, Thailand just will not work. Too much red tape to stay, and too much work to communicte long term with the girls.
Just ones man's reason to choose angeles.
Ps I almost forgot. When Angeles gets to me, we have Tiger Airlines. I can be in Thailand for aboout $100 usd anytime I want. I can be in Singapore for about $50. 00 usd. You see, for the cost of a good night out on the town, I CAN escape Angeles just like you escape your own home for a night out on the town. I really do hope you can see now why some of us choose to stay here. If there are 5, 000 expats here, there will be 5, 000 different answers to your question. Glad you came.come again and I will buy you a beer.
Sailor Man Congerww
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[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello All
I will be flying from AC to Bangkok next month. I've been in contact with a travel agent in AC. She tells me I can take Tiger Air from Clark to Bkk but I have to stay over night in Singapore. I looked on Air Asia's site and they seem to have same day flights from AC to KL and KL to Bkk with no need of overnight stay. But my travel agent did not mention this option. Has anyone here flown from AC to Bkk on Asia Air through KL? Can this be done without an overnight stay?
Egg[/QUOTE]Another option is to fly from Clark to Macau with Tiger Airways, then Macau to Bangkok with Airasia (depart 2135 arrive 2315).
Here is a flight 1 month from today (not incl. taxes):
O FARE Guest 199.00 MOP
Tue, 10/Apr/2007
Flight FD3607 21:35 Depart Macau (MFM)
23:15 Arrive Bangkok (BKK)
Including taxes = 400MOP (c.51USD)
Because of the late departure time, it is a reduced fare code.
At earlier times this costs around 600-660MOP (incl. taxes)
This could be the cheapest option, as it is the shortest flying distance in total (and uses budget carriers).
The Singapore and KL routes are further to travel.
Btw, here is cheapest fare I could find from Clark to Singa:
(Tuesdays and Wednesdays are usually the cheapest days to fly)
Lowest Fare Internet Discounted Fare 58.28 USD
Wed, 11 Apr 07
Flight TR 507 17:30 Depart Manila (Clark) (CRK)
21:00 Arrive Singapore (SIN)
Departure (Lowest Fare)
1 Adult at 58.28 USD 58.28 USD
Taxes and Fees 26.82 USD
Total Cost of Flight 85.10 USD
Great post by Conger,
Not only do we share some opinions (see quote below), you have a good way of putting your words together. I couldn't help but chuckle at some of your points. (of course it may have been the wine).
If I may dig a little deeper, why did you pick AC over other places IN THE PHILIPPINES? There are nice beaches here and there. There is probably better medical care in MLA / Cebu / Davao.
I'll be in AC next week. Let's try to get together for a beer or two.
X Man (ex-Navy, QM, but only 4 years)
Thanks for your replies and insights, much appreciated.
having lived in thailand and now living in the 'peens" i whole hearted agree with conger, he covered some good points, los is great to visit, i love the women...they are the worlds best sex toys, but after "tham lhak' (sigh) even though i can speak thai fairly well, i've found them generally to be...well... rather dull or addle headed, even those educated in university like chula u, you always get the impression that they are hiding something in just the simplest conversation, or they read into a casual query from you about the weather or condition of traffic and turn it into an arguement. thai's do not like the fact a "falang" can speak their language and like less your knowledge of their society, they are secretive by nature and use this to 'get over' on you. whereas the filipinos really have a positive reaction to a foreigner speaking a few words of their language and are open about their cultural beliefs etc.
i never had too much problem with the thai govt or immigration but the lack of understandable english and everything written in thai (they hand you poorly translated forms to fill out) over .6 type, well it gets tedious after a while.
xman as far as medical care goes, i understand that the facilities in angeles for the retired military is high on the list, the premier being st luke's in manila.
another reason i moved from davao to cebu is cebu has better medical facilities than either davao or cdo.
regards
spamhog
I have to agree with much of what has been said re. the 'enhancement of the pleasure' provided by English speaking ladies.
I spent two weeks in AC last month before returning to my work in China. The pussy here in China is just as cheap and cute after you do the usual mongering research, but it is largely all short time and you simply cannot communicate with the girls - short of the usual age old gestures.
I will definitely be back in AC later this year for an extended stay - just to see if the fantasy can be long term. The place is really a dive, but there is something about the ambiance of the place which in part, includes meeting interesting other mongers, but mainly the surreal atmosphere. it really gets the hook into you. It could be my downfall.
Aint life great!
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]Another option is to fly from Clark to Macau with Tiger Airways, then Macau to Bangkok with Airasia (depart 2135 arrive 2315).
[/QUOTE]
AZN Playa
Thanks for the info. I'll look into that. I'm trying to not stay overnight somewhere. I'll be willing to pay more to avoid that. And, I would like to fly out of Clark. When Tiger air uses "Manila (Clark)", they mean Clark and not Manila, right? Also, should I book these tickets online from the states or wait untill I get to AC and use a travel agent?
Egg
So I looked into Azn Playa's suggestion. You can fly from AC to Macau on Tiger and arrive at 15:10. Then, Air Asia leaves for Bkk at 16:40. This give me 90 minutes between flights. But I have to claim my luggage and check them again. Is this enough time? Has anyone does this before? I could play it safe and book that late flight out of Macau at 21:35. This would give me about 6 hours. Is this enough time to do anything in Macau?
Egg
Eggsalad.
I have flown from Clark to BKK via KL before and I will do it again on my next trip. Air Asia has it's own terminal in KL same as Tiger does in Singapore. Yes you will still have to claim your luggage and check in again. Last time i did this trip they had more than one plane in at the same time, a small wait to clear customs. As for travel times.
Arrive at KL 15.40
Depart at 18.45
Arrive at BKK 19.50
One more thing, I buy all my tickets online. Just remember to print out your itinerary otherwise they won't let you inside Clark airport.
Bob.
Eggsalad,
I have this very trip booked for next month.
I'm flying out of Clark on Tiger Airways (depart 13:15) and arive in Macau at 15:10. Then leaving Macau on Air Asia at 16:40 and arriving in BKK at 18:20.
I hope the connection works!
I booked both of these tickets on line, and as two round tickets (BKK-MFM, where I'm staying a few days, and then MFM-CRK). The BKK-MFM RT on Air Asia was about $155. and the MFM-CRK RT on Tiger was $120.
So, one way, purchased in advance, I imagine you could do it for about $138.
I'm really happy about flying directly into Clark AFB (as opposed to Manila, where I have no desire to be). I'll get picked up by the hotel driver, and be on Fields in no time. Very easy!
Good luck with your plans.
Cornwall
I wouldnt expect much from AC but a good old time getting laid. There isnt much in the way of fine dining. This is a party place and you cant expect much more then that.
[QUOTE=Travel Spirit]Is there any good italian restaurant?
Something like Saks inside Grande Majestic Hotel in Bangkok.
Is there any good indian restaurant?
Something like Rang Mahal inside Rembrandt Hotel in Bangkok.
I wonder if I am asking too much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]The tune is getting softer here and the gals are feeling the downward swing.The amount of cash is going south and the amount of customers in the bars at night is lover now than a month ago.I am sure this will help in the attatude dept for the guys that are still here.Five or six guys in a bar with fifety plus girls is not a mix for a good night at work.The staff is sitting half sleeping and the girls are getting slower and slower.The managers want to give the guys deals on ringing the bell so the numbers on sales stay up.
I on the other hand often get 20-p notes a thousand at a time and throw up to the dancers.The gals love this and the bar hates it I am quite sure.The big reason the bar gets no cut of the cash as when you buy ladies drinks.I feel the bars get enough and why not give the hard working little honeys some hard earned jack at face value.After all if a thousand pesos is big loot for a guy I am sure he has been here to long.On the downside be ready to be an unknown to the gals once the cash stops flying through the air.This is just the way it is they get and forget just that fast.Please dont get upset thats the way it is.
Please remember that the season is on the downside so better deals are on the way.The beauty you could never have is getting short on rice at home so just wait.
B.B.[/QUOTE]Bill,
I've noticed that as well. I was here last year and the place was packed with mongers, I couldn't believe it when I got here last week, hardly anyone here.
Any particular reason for the slow down?
Great time to be here IMHO.
Just wondering where you hang out? I read your posts with great interest, you seem to "hit the nail on the head" with your observations/thinking. I'd like to get together for a beer.
Let me know if you're interested.
Cheers!
I agree. Angeles City is probably not the place to be if your expecting a 5 course vacation full of culture, beaches and other such things.
When I go to Angeles City, I just expect one thing and thats plain old sex. The outside environment is rather dirty much like Mexico. The food can be ok depending upon where you go. The hotels have decent food.
The biggest factor for me is the ease of use. All I have to do is make a plane and hotel reservation. Then get to the hotel, put my things away, go across the street, pull a lady out and get laid. Everytime I have barfined a lady there have been minimal problems. The ladies usually stay all night long and I have to kick them out in the morning. On occasion you have a "runner" and the woman who is on menstruation, just a rare occasion for me.
The ladies are usually very friendly, speak English and accomodating. They will go to breakfast, lunch or dinner with you, the mall. Whatever you want to do. It seems more like their your friend.
However, I do have to admit the pictures of the Thai ladies I see in the photo gallery (Certain pictures) do look better then what I can find in Angeles City. It seems the Thai women do have better bodies and faces in general.
I have not been to Pattaya, but my next trip will be to there. Im not expecting the same easy experience as in the Phils where I am simply dropped off at a hotel and walk across the street to get my ladies.
My time and cash is limited to where I can go and what I can spend. I will indeed miss Angeles when I do make that trip to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]In the short time i was in Angeles, almost every Filipino guy asked me to buy Viagra. Obviously, there is huge market for this. Talk about weird. How could anyone with half a brain buy medication anywhere other than a reputable health clinic/doctor? You may as well play Russian roulette for real. Incredibly risky and downright stupid.
Angeles is one ugly place. Why would expat men (wanting to live near cheap pussy) choose such a soulless place -- devoid of anything remotely interesting -- to buy a house or rent long-term there? Sure, the girls are great, but that’s it. And the food’s awful, too. That is, why angeles over phuket, samui, hua hin, pattaya, bali, or even nha trang in vietnam? When I wasn’t getting BJs, I was incredibly bored. No beach, no nice eateries, no parks, nothing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]..However, I do have to admit the pictures of the Thai ladies I see in the photo gallery (Certain pictures) do look better then what I can find in Angeles City. It seems the Thai women do have better bodies and faces in general..[/QUOTE] Well, I dont agree. My experience you have to be LUCKY to find a nice one in Pattaya, in AC there are many more of the nice ones.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]..I have not been to Pattaya, but my next trip will be to there. Im not expecting the same easy experience as in the Phils where I am simply dropped off at a hotel and walk across the street to get my ladies..[/QUOTE] Shure you can if you stay at a hotel in the Walking street. Go outside the bars along the street from 6pm and the girls will invite you by. Barfine from 300 and up if I remember right, pluss the girls.
Ok, hope you are LUCKY!
Looks are subjective. I dont find the majority of AC women to be fat exactly, but i do believe their bodies are probably thicker then most other asians. My true preference is for a woman who is rail-thin. The AC women are generally slender, but not truely rail-thin most of the time. There are definately a few who I would say are chubby. Im not sure if I will find the rail-thinness in Thailand, but the pictures do suggest that its a high possibility.
I will say the treatment I received in Angeles City was the most accomodating out of any other women I have been with in my life. I have never really encountered such kindness from women that I just met. For example, I walk into a bar and walk out with a woman. Then I spend the night with her and she acts as if we have been boyfriend/girlfriend for years. Sometimes it gets to a point where I have to ask the woman to leave because my intentions were more of a short-term nature. I like this conduct because I would rather have me being the one determining the time when the lady should leave and not the other way around.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Well, I dont agree. My experience you have to be LUCKY to find a nice one in Pattaya, in AC there are many more of the nice ones.
Shure you can if you stay at a hotel in the Walking street. Go outside the bars along the street from 6pm and the girls will invite you by. Barfine from 300 and up if I remember right, pluss the girls.
Ok, hope you are LUCKY![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]Looks are subjective. I dont find the majority of AC women to be fat exactly, but i do believe their bodies are probably thicker then most other asians. My true preference is for a woman who is rail-thin. The AC women are generally slender, but not truely rail-thin most of the time. There are definately a few who I would say are chubby. Im not sure if I will find the rail-thinness in Thailand, but the pictures do suggest that its a high possibility.
I will say the treatment I received in Angeles City was the most accomodating out of any other women I have been with in my life. I have never really encountered such kindness from women that I just met. For example, I walk into a bar and walk out with a woman. Then I spend the night with her and she acts as if we have been boyfriend/girlfriend for years. Sometimes it gets to a point where I have to ask the woman to leave because my intentions were more of a short-term nature. I like this conduct because I would rather have me being the one determining the time when the lady should leave and not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
They get these pumpkin head. They get pat to look frosperous.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]Then I go to Angeles City, I just expect one thing and thats plain old sex. The outside environment is rather dirty much like Mexico. The food can be ok depending upon where you go. The hotels have decent food.
The biggest factor for me is the ease of use. All I have to do is make a plane and hotel reservation. Then get to the hotel, put my things away, go across the street, pull a lady out and get laid.
I have not been to Pattaya, but my next trip will be to there. Im not expecting the same easy experience as in the Phils where I am simply dropped off at a hotel and walk across the street to get my ladies.
My time and cash is limited to where I can go and what I can spend. I will indeed miss Angeles when I do make that trip to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Good Times... I live of course in Angeles. I like to visit Pattaya, it has everything that I like and Angeles is missing. It has the beach, a beautiful Beach Road to walk down, better transportation, and overall much cleaner. It is of course a little more expensive for pussy and beer. You will find, it as convient to get both as it is in Angeles. Right out the door of most hotels and into a beer garden or some of the famous Soi 6 bars. Walking street at night has to be an experience not to be compared to anywhere in the world.
There are really only three reasons why I choose to live in this shit hole paradise called Angeles when comparing it to Pattaya.
A. The number one reason, is the Thai Goverment just makes it too hard for me to live there year round. With Tiger Airways located at Clark, I am only $100 dollars away from a vacation in Thailand. It is so so so much ealier to live here full time.
B. The number two reason is the language problem. Most Thai ladies I encountered spoke so little English that after a couple of week, the effort just wasn't worth it knowing how much easier communication was here in Angeles.
C. Number three is just a small reason. In Thailand, the religion is so much different. In the Philippines the Religion is much like some parts of the states. There is not that much culture difference. The values are similiar to the states. As I said number three is of far lesser problem. Number 1 and 2 are just too hard for me to overcome for a retirement home.
When you go to Thailand ( Pattaya), be sure to check out the several boards that deal with just Pattaya. You will be so so glad you did. But of course ever good monger knows this and you would not be on this great board.
Enjoy your next trip to Thailand and if you head back to Angeles, pm me and lets have a beer.
Sailor Man
Guys,
I'm visiting AC the first week of June. Last time there was April 2000. I've read many of the reports given in the last 6 months and it seems that good AC is still the same. I'm sure there are some changes but the basics are the one constant. I was planning on staying the Orchid Inn and was curious if the new(to me) Flamigo club draws a crowd. Also curious about the weather during that period. I did go back a year to last June and nothing out of the ordinary posted just not many posts. Is this a slow time of year? I looked at the average weather and it appears that the rainy season starts in June. Any pointers? 49 days and 7 hours until touchdown in MNL
I am making my first visit in May. I arrive late at night in Manila(10:30) and leave the following week early morning(7)
I think I will spend my first and last night in Manila for ease of travel. I will be tired but would still like to have some fun there. Where is a good place to stay that is close to the action not far from the airport and safe enough to walk to.
The rest of my trip I will be in AC. and have decided on the Pacific Breeze. What is the best way to get to AC from Manila and back. I can set it up with the hotel for about $50 each way. Is this the best way to go or is there a better cheaper yet safe alternative.
What is a standard Bar Fine I have seen several numbers tossed about I am sure it varies and is it all night. What should I expect to pay for Short time and Long time
Is Dirty Duck still the best BJ bar and what is your favorite bars for taking home girls.
Last is it worth setting up FH dates or should I concentrate on P2P and be sure what I am getting.
I know most of this has been discussed before and I have read back for two years on the AC site but i would like any updated info.
Also I wouldnt mind having a drinking buddy or two if any one will be in town starting the 14th. I will be a paid member shortly and can take PMs
One last thing I did chat with a girl at a club called AngelWitch. I have seen clubs with similar names on the maps but not that. does anyone know where that club is ?
thanks for any help
JIMBO the HO
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Is Dirty Duck still the best BJ bar and what is your favorite bars for taking home girls.[/quote]
Dirty Duck is a BJ-Bar?!? Didn't know that since I'm rarely in Fields.
Seems I have to check it out soon.
[quote]One last thing I did chat with a girl at a club called AngelWitch. I have seen clubs with similar names on the maps but not that. does anyone know where that club is ?[/QUOTE]
It's at the upper end of Fields near Main Gate and Jeepney terminal. Next to Roadhouse and SubDelicious.
Cheers!
Well, after 24 hours of traveling from Afghanistan to Manila because of delays, I finally arrived in AC. I’m just glad my driver was still at the airport to meet me. So as I arrive at the Wild Orchid, I go up to my room, and take care of the three S’s in about 15 minutes.
I figures that since I was pretty much wasted from the travel I would just do some recanaissance and then call it a night. My first stop was at Blue Nile where the place was pretty much empty with the exception of the abundance of girls. Some good lookers and definitely worth paying a visit back to later. Next it was off to one of my old favorites of Champagne. It’s not as rocking as it used to be, and the girls were lacking the fun they used to have. On the other hand, the waitresses are pretty smoking. Think I liked most is the no pressure atmosphere it has always been for me, yet everyone is still friendly. I had a few there and then moved on to Camelot. As reported before, the girls who used to be at Champagne moved over to Camelot. Place has a few good lookers here and the girls are still real friendly. After about 45 minutes here I figured I should move on.
Headed over to Dollhouse in which I walked into a mock contest of who is the best looking I think. Some real good looking dancers here, but the club is just too loud and too much for my taste, but I will give it a go again as I was tired and that could have been factoring into my bad time there. But they did have some real lookers; the dance crew was good, and it probably is better then my initial visit.
Next stop was the old Pick-UP dico whatever it is called now. Club seemed nice, but not the best looking dancers IMHO. Very friendly waitresses but a little too pushy, as I was constantly surrounded by six or seven of them, which honestly isn’t a bad thing, it’s a great thing, but can get a little old after a bit, and again my levels of frustration could have been up after my travels.
I was thinking about calling it a day, but figured I would go back to Champagne and have one last SanMig. When I was there earlier I noticed a waitress eying me quite a bit, so I called her over as I was sitting at the bar. She was a tad bit older then what I usually go for, but I was thinking I needed a little mellower night if I bar fined anyone. Little did I know that the girl wore me out. The little girl got on top and wouldn’t get off until she finished twice, then it was my turn as she calmly stated. Afterwards, it was a well deserved rest.
On a side note, I went to the optometrist before I came over and found out I needed glasses. I figured that since I was coming here, I would check prices out here before I bought anywhere else. Well, I can say that for 800p for the lenses and 7500p for Armani lenses, it cost me about 170 US for Armani prescription glasses, roughly half the cost in the states. I know a lot of people mention dentistry work over here, but thought I would throw this out as well.
More to follow…
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[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]I think I will spend my first and last night in Manila for ease of travel. I will be tired but would still like to have some fun there. Where is a good place to stay that is close to the action not far from the airport and safe enough to walk to.[/QUOTE]A good place to stay is in Ermita at the Executive Plaza Hotel. Book through Action Travel in Angeles City for a rate of P1,500/nt. You pay the hotel at checkout. See: [url]http://www.actiontravelac.com/hotels.html[/url]
Why you want to stay in Ermita is because of the LA Cafe. It is a two block walk from the Executive Plaza and is full of freelancers and is open 24hrs/day. See: [url]http://ermita.com/LA%20cafe/index.htm[/url]
The Executive Plaza is a 20 minute taxi ride from the airport but don't worry as the times you will be going to/form the airport the traffic will be light.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]The rest of my trip I will be in AC. and have decided on the Pacific Breeze. What is the best way to get to AC from Manila and back. I can set it up with the hotel for about $50 each way. Is this the best way to go or is there a better cheaper yet safe alternative.[/QUOTE]If you stay at the Executive Plaza and feel adventureous, a safe and very cheap way to get to AC is by the Philippine Rabbit bus.
Take a taxi to the Avenida Philippine Rabbit bus terminal which takes 15 minutes and costs about P70, then board the bus to Angeles City/Dau. You buy your ticket onboard. The trip takes 1.5 hours and costs about P130. Tell the ticket guy you want to get off at the Fields Avenue stop. The bus stops at McArthur and Fields. You can then walk or take a trike to the Pacific Breeze depending on how much luggage you have.
I have done the trip via Rabbit bus twice and wouldn't go any other way. I wouldn't waste US$50 each way when you can do it just as fast for about US$4.
Sailor man, I'll be following in your footsteps this fall...moving to AC and making occasional trips to Tland to meet visa stuff. I'd like to buy you a beer and pick your brain when I get over there. My top concern of course is budget, give me an idea what yours is like when you can...Thanks! T
[QUOTE=Congerww]There are really only three reasons why I choose to live in this shit hole paradise called Angeles when comparing it to Pattaya.
A. The number one reason, is the Thai Goverment just makes it too hard for me to live there year round. With Tiger Airways located at Clark, I am only $100 dollars away from a vacation in Thailand. It is so so so much ealier to live here full time.
B. The number two reason is the language problem. Most Thai ladies I encountered spoke so little English that after a couple of week, the effort just wasn't worth it knowing how much easier communication was here in Angeles.
C. Number three is just a small reason. In Thailand, the religion is so much different. In the Philippines the Religion is much like some parts of the states. There is not that much culture difference. The values are similiar to the states. As I said number three is of far lesser problem. Number 1 and 2 are just too hard for me to overcome for a retirement home.
When you go to Thailand ( Pattaya), be sure to check out the several boards that deal with just Pattaya. You will be so so glad you did. But of course ever good monger knows this and you would not be on this great board.
Enjoy your next trip to Thailand and if you head back to Angeles, pm me and lets have a beer.
Sailor Man[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]I am making my first visit in May. I arrive late at night in Manila(10:30) and leave the following week early morning(7)
I think I will spend my first and last night in Manila for ease of travel. I will be tired but would still like to have some fun there. Where is a good place to stay that is close to the action not far from the airport and safe enough to walk to.
The rest of my trip I will be in AC. and have decided on the Pacific Breeze. What is the best way to get to AC from Manila and back. I can set it up with the hotel for about $50 each way. Is this the best way to go or is there a better cheaper yet safe alternative.
What is a standard Bar Fine I have seen several numbers tossed about I am sure it varies and is it all night. What should I expect to pay for Short time and Long time
Is Dirty Duck still the best BJ bar and what is your favorite bars for taking home girls.
Last is it worth setting up FH dates or should I concentrate on P2P and be sure what I am getting.
I know most of this has been discussed before and I have read back for two years on the AC site but i would like any updated info.
Also I wouldnt mind having a drinking buddy or two if any one will be in town starting the 14th. I will be a paid member shortly and can take PMs
One last thing I did chat with a girl at a club called AngelWitch. I have seen clubs with similar names on the maps but not that. does anyone know where that club is ?
thanks for any help
JIMBO the HO[/QUOTE]
From the international or domestic airport take a meter taxi 85peso to the LRT train station, 1st station is Maclaren or 2nd is edsa (not sure about spelling) 1st station is very busy and a long walk from where taxi drops you off. 2nd station would probable be best bet, but not been there tho.
Get a ticket to D Jose station about 10 stops 15peso.
Exit station and when at bottom of steps turn left when you reach the footpath. Continue about 100 meters and you will see Rabbit bus terminal on the left. Buses run every 30 mins to Angeles city. 115 Pesos.
Bus takes about 90 mins and arrives at dau bus terminal.
trike or jeepney to Ac takes about 10 mins. trike should be 100peso.
Taxi from Airport will be about 2500 peso and you will be stuck in traffic for ever. the LRT train will bypass most of this traffic and drop you off on the outskirts so the bus is on the open roads within about 15 mins.
I found the best bars to be, Lancelot, stingers, blue nile/Neros and Las Vegas.
Bar fines are 1200 peso and some models go for 1500 peso.
Good hunting!
Well I just got back from AC in February. I can tell you that the best and most secure way is to set it up with the Hotel to pick you up. Some use the taxi stand to the right where you meet your company. They tend to want more and tend to be hustlers. Best bet is though Hotel transportation. I stayed at the Wild Orchid off Santos street. This in my opinion is the best place because its a good quality place girls love the pool and it is 1 block from everything! Kokomos is near and a great place to eat. The bars are endless. Everyone will have there own opinion of what there favorite bars are. Me I liked Champayne, Classroom, and Dollhouse. But Dollhouse can be tricky in the early mornings because there are rumors they pad the tabs to us drunken mongers. The main area will cost P 1300 for bar fine. And you need to tip girl next morning if she was good (P700 to P1000). Also Dollhouse is open 24 hours a day. If you go further down you will have smaller and cheaper bars that have short time places if you desire. These are usually P1000 bar fines. Never got a chance to go to the Dirty Duck. I will make another trip there on Mat 7th so I may try that. As far as Hotels when you come back to Manila. There is a hotel I can not think of the name of it. But it is across the street from the US embassy. It is reasonable cheap for Manila. Good luck on your trip you will be there around the same time when I return.
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well I just got back from AC in February. I can tell you that the best and most secure way is to set it up with the Hotel to pick you up. Some use the taxi stand to the right where you meet your company ... Everyone will have there own opinion of what there favorite bars are. Me I liked Champayne, Classroom, and Dollhouse. But Dollhouse can be tricky in the early mornings because there are rumors they pad the tabs to us drunken mongers. The main area will cost P 1300 for bar fine. And you need to tip girl next morning if she was good (P700 to P1000). Also Dollhouse is open 24 hours a day. If you go further down you will have smaller and cheaper bars that have short time places if you desire. These are usually P1000 bar fines. [/QUOTE]
Dcand4:
A very good summary indeed! But one tiny little remark: I would not tip with 700 to 1000 pesos, even if the girl was good!
As some mates find valid arguments not to tip at all, this topic usually leads to endless discussions which I hate to inflame again. However, I tend to insinuate that we have reached here something like a consensus that 700 to 1000 pesos is far too much!? IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Dcand4:
A very good summary indeed! But one tiny little remark: I would not tip with 700 to 1000 pesos, even if the girl was good!
As some mates find valid arguments not to tip at all, this topic usually leads to endless discussions which I hate to inflame again. However, I tend to insinuate that we have reached here something like a consensus that 700 to 1000 pesos is far too much!? IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Ditto that. But to each their own. The big tippers who pay us a visit now and then and throw money around are in their full right to do so. In fact, thanks to them AC keeps attracting new talent in search of rich porreigners. In the end it means so many more hungry mouths to feed on a rainy day...
But just to re-iterate the facts:
[b]P700-1000 = 3-4 full 8hr workdays pay for a regular girl @ SM Mall[/b]
(smaller shops usually pay LESS than that)
It's all up to you (Air Supply)
Well good point on the tipping, I guess I leave a good tip then but will admit that I had one girl that got nothing at all and for good reason. I BF her and she was just simply lousy attitude and rather than waste my time with her I sent her on her way. Went back to same bar (Champayne) and got another girl who spent next 4 days with me helping BF for threesomes and what a 4 days it was!
There is a place called Illusions down further that has ST upstairs the girl I BF was P700. This was a great place for short time.
Well I go back in May...Anyone know of Casa's there in AC? Like to try them for a change. Never had experience BJ bar which do you recommend when I go back and is it true they do it right there in the bar? Can u bar fine the girls there for short time as well and what is the cost in BJ bar.
I will back in AC (for my third trip) in April. Looking forward to the low season > fewer pooners, lower prices (in some cases). Hungrier girls make for better attitudes IMHO. he he.
Last trip I enjoyed lunch a few times at Edelweiss Restaurant and a few weisse bier there. They had only 2 of the lower quality beers on hand - Oetinger and Kapunzer - which were affordable and a welcome relief from the crappy SM.
2 questions for the vets:
1) Can anyone here point me in the direction of a place to buy (retail ) some of the better imported beers? Schneider Weisse, Paulaner etc?
2) Ever have any success in negotiatinga 10% discount for low season; staying for a week etc?
Cheers,
Dirty Daddy
[QUOTE=Dcand4] Can u bar fine the girls there for short time as well and what is the cost in BJ bar.[/QUOTE]
Dcand4:
Sure, pay 1000 pesos and you can barfine any girl for ST in a bj bar! I do that quite regularly for some afternoon entertainment! :) Check any bar in Perimeter Road!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Assuming no public bus and transport from Clark to heart of AC. Whats the usual cost to the AC strip area and hotels near all action and time to get there.
I arranged for hotel pick up (Sunset Gardens) at perimeter...they quoted 300 pesos.
[QUOTE=Pirate1]Assuming no public bus and transport from Clark to heart of AC. Whats the usual cost to the AC strip area and hotels near all action and time to get there.[/QUOTE]
It's like a 10 minute drive. It's really quick. I have usually used hotel pickup at around 300 pesos, but I'm sure you could hire someone out there.
[QUOTE=Key Master]It's like a 10 minute drive. It's really quick. I have usually used hotel pickup at around 300 pesos, but I'm sure you could hire someone out there.[/QUOTE]
Nice taxis are immediately available from the taxi pool in front of airport. They are called for you at arrivals and drive up to arrivals in 2 minutes and charge a fixed 200 Peso. Ver well organized. Much easier than having to arrange a hotel pickup and paying 50% more.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Nice taxis are immediately available from the taxi pool in front of airport. They are called for you at arrivals and drive up to arrivals in 2 minutes and charge a fixed 200 Peso. Ver well organized. Much easier than having to arrange a hotel pickup and paying 50% more.[/QUOTE]
For the hardcore cheap charlies there are plenty of jeeps available @ L&T just outside the airport. Less than P10 to checkpoint.
Keep in mind Jimbo 69 said he's arriving at 10:30 at night, fresh off the plane, jet lagged and possibly with bags. I wouldn't want to deal with the LRT in broad daylight, let alone at nearly midnight. And I think the trains stop running by about 10 or 11.
Just stay in Manila for the night. You can be ready to hit the bars by about midnight. If you try to go to AC in one go it could be 3 in the A.M.
If you want to save money, try the free Swagman pickup and stay at their hotel. I don't particularly like the place but for one short night who cares? You can flick the baby roaches off the bed before you lay your girl down. Then in the morning you can board Swagman's bus to AC.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]From the international or domestic airport take a meter taxi 85peso to the LRT train station, 1st station is Maclaren or 2nd is edsa (not sure about spelling) 1st station is very busy and a long walk from where taxi drops you off. 2nd station would probable be best bet, but not been there tho.
Get a ticket to D Jose station about 10 stops 15peso.
Exit station and when at bottom of steps turn left when you reach the footpath. Continue about 100 meters and you will see Rabbit bus terminal on the left. Buses run every 30 mins to Angeles city. 115 Pesos.
Bus takes about 90 mins and arrives at dau bus terminal.
trike or jeepney to Ac takes about 10 mins. trike should be 100peso.
Taxi from Airport will be about 2500 peso and you will be stuck in traffic for ever. the LRT train will bypass most of this traffic and drop you off on the outskirts so the bus is on the open roads within about 15 mins.
I found the best bars to be, Lancelot, stingers, blue nile/Neros and Las Vegas.
Bar fines are 1200 peso and some models go for 1500 peso.
Good hunting![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mahku]Keep in mind Jimbo 69 said he's arriving at 10:30 at night, fresh off the plane, jet lagged and possibly with bags. I wouldn't want to deal with the LRT in broad daylight, let alone at nearly midnight. And I think the trains stop running by about 10 or 11.
Just stay in Manila for the night. You can be ready to hit the bars by about midnight. If you try to go to AC in one go it could be 3 in the A.M.
If you want to save money, try the free Swagman pickup and stay at their hotel. I don't particularly like the place but for one short night who cares? You can flick the baby roaches off the bed before you lay your girl down. Then in the morning you can board Swagman's bus to AC.[/QUOTE]
...or just take a metered cab to Pasay (70+ Pesos) then bus to Dau (24 hrs service regular P90 aircon P119). From Dau trike to any Fields hotel (P 60-70).
MIA-AC sweet n easy for P 250, give or take a few pesos :)
Congerww,
Great write up from a guy Living n AC. Your information made a lot of sense and i chatted up many ex pats at Mo's recently on my trip to AC. For me I'm looking at relocating to Cebu or Damagete City as I do so love being by the sea/beach.
I have visited BKK and Pattaya and agree that the Thai women are slighly hotter thna Filipina's although many of the Phillina are also quite hot. While Ac can be dirty and have not much there it does have very cheap and good attitude pussy for the most part.
For me I will come to play there a few more times before I permanently relocate to live in the Phillipines for all the reasons U stated. Since I'm not ex military then AC has no speical place for me other than mongering.
And in short time living there permanently I will cease that for the most part with a great Philipina girlfirend/life partner.
You and Spam Hog have written many great posts and hope to look u guys up in your repsective areas on my next trip.
I had never been to Angeles but I did some extensive reading on this forum and also other similar type websites. It seems that there are two schools of thought concerning Angeles, those that love the place and those that don’t think very much of it and stay far away from it. After my first trip there I can say that all that I’ve read about Angeles is true, that is, there is both good and bad. One can find themselves loving and hating it all within the same day.
I arrived in Angeles by way of taxi at about 3:00pm. After checking in to my hotel I stepped outside and took a nice leisurely stroll down Fields Ave. My first impressions were not good. I have heard so much about the legendary Fields Avenue: bars, girls, neon lights, excitement! Clearly I wasn’t expecting the Las Vegas strip but I have to say my first impressions were;
“This is it???”
It is a narrow street with lots of traffic, run down shops and an endless parade of hustlers selling Viagra, Cialis, T-shirts and just about any piece of crap you can imagine. I remember one day a guy was walking down the street with a rolled up area rug.
“Rug sir?”
“No thank you.”
As I continued my walk down the crowded street I suddenly noticed an incredibly foul odor, as I looked around I realized that I had walked into an outdoor market area complete with raw fish, chicken and beef sitting out on tables in the hot tropical sun. No ice, no refrigeration, nothing to cover the meat from the swarm of buzzing flies; I nearly lost my lunch right then and there. It is a wonder that whoever eats from this market and others like it don’t get a daily dose of food poisoning!
Clearly, these are some of the bad things, trust me, it does get better, much better.
I stayed at the Royal Amsterdam which I highly recommend; it is a new and modern hotel that opened about two years ago. The décor and amenities are top notch and there is a decent restaurant on the first floor that is open 24 hours, the staff is very friendly and professional as well. The hotel is located in the heart of “the action” on Fields Ave., the only negative things about the place are that it does not have a pool and if you have a room on the back side of the hotel you will hear the constant sounds of karaoke all night long as there is a long line of KTV shacks that seem to cater to the local clientele. They have installed double windows and shutters on these rooms but you will still hear the endless array of tone deaf voices screeching through the night until 6:00am!
As night came and all of the neon appeared, the reason why so many come here became abundantly clear. There is a certain electricity in the air, a spirit that is fun, adventurous and alive. There are so many bars so close together, it is so easy to bar hop from one place to another. If you go into a bar that you don’t like or it just doesn’t feel right, no problem! Just walk out the door and whatever you’re looking for it will probably be right next door.
There are big obnoxious bars, bars that are small and quaint, bars with lots of girls, bars with only a few, there is something for everyone. Generally speaking, the girls have a fun attitude, very laid back, simple. There can be a fair share of homely chubby girls, but to counter that there is more than enough attractive ladies to suit anyone’s taste.
If a monger doesn’t’ have fun in a place like this, then they are either so uptight they would never have fun anywhere, or they are seriously burnt out and have had way too much of a good thing!
On my first night in Angeles I did some barhopping and ended up at a place called “The Welcome Inn” where I met a 21 year old doorgirl named Herwill. She was friendly and sweet and a lot of fun to be with. I asked her if she wanted to barfine with me she literally jumped up and down and went dancing all over the bar. One thing about this place is that it’s good for the ego!
We went straight to my hotel and after a good romp in the sack she said she was hungry and wanted to go out and get some chicken feet and go bar hopping. It was about 2am at this point so I thought what the heck.
Now, being rather naďve and from the USA I didn’t know what chicken feet were. Here in my country, for example, we have a popular snack called chicken fingers, now these are not literally fingers from a chicken but rather strips of chicken meat that have been battered and fried and usually served with some kind of dipping sauce. When my girl said she wanted some chicken feet I just assumed it was some funny name of a Filipino snack. When we went to a roadside BBQ I found out to my horror that chicken feet were exactly as she said; little chicken feet, claws and all, that are skewered and barbequed. I’m not sure what was worse, the mere thought of eating the feet of a chicken or the sight of my cute date devouring these things then spitting out the bones on the sidewalk! She offered some to me but I respectfully declined. A nice thing she did though was to give her leftover skewers to some little street kid.
We went to Stinger bar, a place she used to work and played a few games of pool and had a few drinks. We then we headed to the Blue Nile Executive Club that is upstairs of the Blue Nile bar. It had a great party atmosphere, it was crowded and the music was loud, not very good for a conversation but a good place to have a drink or two and watch the dancers, of which there were some nice lookers there. After a while there I was getting tired and horny so we left and went back to the hotel for another session.
The next day I needed money from an ATM, Herwill was still with me and said she knew of one nearby, so we were walking along Fields Ave. and she hails a trike, not knowing how far anything is I just followed her into the trike. This was my first ever ride in a trike, I was not impressed. Now keep in mind that I am not a big guy and even I was cramped in this damn thing, there can’t be much of a suspension on these things as the ride was rougher than Fred Flintstone’s car. To top it off, the driver drove like a maniac, which isn’t so unusual as all Filipinos drive like this.
Anyways, the trike takes us to an ATM about a two minute, if that, trike ride away on Macarthur Blvd. To walk this it would take about 10 minutes, no problem for me as I love to walk. So I get in line for the ATM, the trike patiently waiting for me to conduct by business then takes us back to the Royal Amsterdam, price for about 10 minutes of the trike drivers time was 500 peso! I did not know it at the time just how badly I was being ripped off, but if I was a local I believe the tab would have been more like 50 peso. Now, I am not a cheap Charlie and I have no problem being generous and tipping well, but I don’t like being taken advantage of. From this point on I started to dislike trike drivers and swore that I would rather walk then get into another one again! I can count on my hand the times I have ridden in those damn things.
We went up to my room and she told me that she loved me and wanted to stay with me. Here we go again! I don’t know what I’m doing wrong (or what I’m doing right depending on how you look at it) but this talk of love the next day is just too much for me. Maybe I would have spent another day or two with her if she didn’t start in with all the crazy talk, but as it was I had to say goodbye to her. She was crying when I told her I was going barhopping that night without her. I felt lousy about it as I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I believe it’s better to nip it in the bud in a situation like this, after all, if she was proclaiming her love for me after just one night and crying when I said goodbye, imagine what would she be like after two or three days!
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Hello Gentlemen
I will be in AC in about a month. I want to take my girl to Boracay for a few days. I've been in contact with a couple of travel agencies and they are quoting about $100 US per night. This seems high for me. Can any of you help? Should I book my own via internet? Any hotel/resort recommendations? How much should I pay?
Egg
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello Gentlemen
I will be in AC in about a month. I want to take my girl to Boracay for a few days. I've been in contact with a couple of travel agencies and they are quoting about $100 US per night. This seems high for me. Can any of you help? Should I book my own via internet? Any hotel/resort recommendations? How much should I pay?
Egg[/QUOTE]
I expect to be there in the May 16 - 24 time frame. I'll likely stay at the Pacific Breeze; PM me for a few other options & contact info. $48 - 90 or so per night depending if you want a jacuzzi, a suite, etc. There are some available in the $30/night range as well and are reportedly fairly good.
/Dan D.
[QUOTE=It Traveller]On a side note, I went to the optometrist before I came over and found out I needed glasses. I figured that since I was coming here, I would check prices out here before I bought anywhere else. Well, I can say that for 800p for the lenses and 7500p for Armani lenses, it cost me about 170 US for Armani prescription glasses, roughly half the cost in the states. I know a lot of people mention dentistry work over here, but thought I would throw this out as well.[[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]IT Traveller--where did you get the glasses made and how long did it take?
Also, is the first week of June a good time to go? Please I know it always a good time but seriously, is it slow, rainy, etc?
[QUOTE=Ice2005]IT Traveller--where did you get the glasses made and how long did it take?
Also, is the first week of June a good time to go? Please I know it always a good time but seriously, is it slow, rainy, etc?[/QUOTE]
On my last trip, I needed to replace my lenses so I took a walk over to the mall. There are several optometrists there so I picked one and they quoted me $925 pesos. It took them about 45 minutes to finish the job so I chatted up the receptionist and even got her phone number!
The weather at the begining of June will be hot and is the start of the rainy season. This should be a great time to go because you will have more choices and less competition.
[b]To Sagramore:[/b]
Great write-up! Good to see you made it to AC and now you are surely hooked!
Believe it or not I’ve never really been that interested in a threesome, I’ve always been more than satisfied with just one woman at a time. However, I always told myself that if I ever did do one that:
A.) The girls would have to be truly bisexual, getting off with each other as much as with me, and.
B.) They would have to be into me as much as they were into each other.
That being said, I was out and about one night in Angeles, not looking for any kind of threesome, and I end up at a bar called, I think, Private Dancer. It was located directly next door to "The Roadhouse". I say "was" because since I’ve been there it has changed owners and it is now called "Angel Witch". At the time I went there it had a sign outside that said; "Hot Women, Cold Beer and a pool table". What more could anyone want?
So I went on inside and started chatting and flirting with two ladies named Alex and Sophia. Things were getting a little flirtatious with both of them with one on each side of me, kissing and caressing each of them, with a lot of encouragement from both of them. They were kissing each other as well! So I started to think that maybe this was the night to break my threesome cherry. What the hell? You only live once right? They seem to be into each other and they seem to be into me as well: so I barfined both of them and headed out to a night that had promise of untold pleasure!
However, the evening took a nosedive as soon as we stepped out of the bar; it went from light, flirtatious fun to awkward moments and forced conversation. I tried to recapture that lovin’ feeling by going into another bar and having a drink or two but it just wasn’t the same. Sophia, the more aggressive and talkative one, suggested we head back to my hotel room and move the party there, I thought this seemed like a great idea!
Back at my hotel we raided the mini-bar and had a few more drinks and things were going much better now, so I figure this is the time to make my move and really get things started here! I invited them both to come over and sit on the bed with me, Sophia came over but Alex didn’t even want to sit next to me. It didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out she just wasn’t into the whole threesome thing, she was too shy to do anything so I just sent her home.
Now, I really wasn’t upset at this point; I still had Sophia who promised to "take care of me". Things were going pretty good with her, we had some good foreplay, clothes came off, took a shower, headed back to the bed then all of a sudden things went sour and she said she wanted to go home! I asked her what was wrong but she wouldn’t give any reason. To this day I have no idea what the hell happened with the change in attitude. In any event, it was far too much drama for me, I told her to get dressed and just go home. I never want a girl to do something she doesn’t want to do and I try to be very careful to pick girls that genuinely seem to be into me. It’s ok if they’re not; all I ask for is some honesty in the first place!
So here I am, alone in my hotel room, stewing about what just happened, the bottom line was that I paid two bar-fines and both girls left early and I never went boom-boom! (You can tell I’ve been in this city too long when I start talking like that! ) I thought I was being more than reasonable when I went back to the bar asking for just one bar-fine back, especially considering that I never even touched one of the girls. To make a long story short, the manager refused to give me one centavo back; to me this was simply poor customer service skills. Needless to say I never did go back.
After the failed threesome it was about 3 am, late but still bars are open, my choices were simple;
(a.) go home alone (be.) find an eligible honey before the bars close.
Guess what option I choose? ; )
I went to a bar called Nero’s Forum and quickly met a girl named Veronica. She was an aggressive girl who was very adept at making the blow job gesture by pumping her fist in front of her mouth while her tongue poked at her inside cheek in unison. She promised me the best blow job ever and all night of boom-boom. At this point I thought maybe this is just the ticket, a professional girl who does her job well and won’t make a scene when it’s time to leave. So I bar-fined this aggressive minx and took her back to my hotel where I learned that not only am I only her 3rd bar-fine but she has never done a BJ before and was not about to learn that night! These facts were made believable by her overall inexperience in the bedroom. However, much to her credit, what she lacked in experience she more than made up for with enthusiasm.
I should also add that I am not necessarily complaining about her performance or attitude, I’m a go with the flow kind of guy and will always try and make the most of any situation and will still treat the ladies with respect, after all, I never want a woman to do something she doesn’t want to do. I avoid thinking of the girls offering a service and think more of just picking up a girl at a bar where we are both mutually attracted and both having a good time. Although a valuable lesson here is that things are often not what they seem; you have to take everything these girls say with a grain of salt.
After a full night of fun, I unfortunately woke up the next morning feeling terrible with a raging fever. I think the combination of the long plane ride, jet lag, strange foods and nonstop drinking and screwing took its toll! I ended up feeling worse and worse to the point of calling a doctor. The Royal Amsterdam hotel has a doctor on call that stopped by my hotel room for a checkup, all for 1500 peso. I know back in the USA you could never, I mean never find a doctor to do a house call for 30 bucks! You couldn’t even find a plumber for that price! Anyways, I was diagnosed with tonsillitis, nothing some antibiotics couldn’t cure.
As for Veronica, she stayed and took care of me; she was like my own personal caregiver. I think that there is a certain caring nature with these girls that I believe is part of their culture. With her by my side for those few days, I got to know her on a more personal level and developed a genuine affection for her. However, as much as I liked her, there was still not enough there to make more than a few days of fun. I ended up spending three days with her and maybe would have gone longer but she was simply getting too attached to me too quickly when she started saying things like ‘mahal kital" (I love you) and calling me her honeyko.
The hardest part for me is saying goodbye to these women, I am not here to hurt anyone, and on the contrary I’m here for fun. It seems all too often that when it’s time to say good bye a scene complete with tears and pouting breaks out. I simply have not found the best way to handle these situations, or better yet, how to avoid getting myself into them.
There is more on this girl later; I will have a separate story in the "Filipina’s Advice" forum.
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I'm trying to weasel a trip to AC in May, tagging it on as a "stopover" on my trip to Toronto. (yes, this technique often gets me to where I want to go for free or very little cost, with my client paying for the original trip)
I see that the costs of bar fines / EWR in most of the bars are in the 1200 + P range. Does a portion of that go to the girl? Bottom line - will I need to negotiate with the gal for pricing also or does the bar fine cover everything except the tip for good service?
I've read conflicting reports (for instance, in Cebu on a 2500P barfine the bar often gets 700P & the girl 1800P)
Thanks.
/Dan D.
Hello Dan,
Yes the barfine covers everything except the tip for good service. The only thing you should negotiate is what will happen in the bedroom. In most cases, the girl gets $500 and the bar gets $700, so a tip for good service is always appreciated.
M
PS.........Just curious but will you be flying Cathay to TO?
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello Gentlemen
I will be in AC in about a month. I want to take my girl to Boracay for a few days. I've been in contact with a couple of travel agencies and they are quoting about $100 US per night. This seems high for me. Can any of you help? Should I book my own via internet? Any hotel/resort recommendations? How much should I pay?
Egg[/QUOTE]Egg -
have been to Baracay many times and $100 US is high... My wife and I stay at Willy's Resort for about $50 - it is away from the action a bit however, we like it because it is a bit quiet.. Rooms are nice and clean (with A/C and hot water), service is great. Also, restuarant on site. PM if you need more...
n_r
PS - wear shorts and flip flops on the boat - unless you want your clothes to get wet...
[QUOTE=Mattrick]PS.........Just curious but will you be flying Cathay to TO?[/QUOTE]
No - of all airlines, Continental. Houston-Toronto outbound. Two days later Toronto-Houston-Honolulu-Guam-Manila.
Thanks for the info.
/Dan D
One night on a good barhop I ended up at a bar called Gecko’s and met two girls named Michelle and Ecel. They were best friends and we ended up drinking and partying for quite a while together. I asked Michelle if she wanted to barfine with me and she said yes but also asked;
“Barfine my friend too?”
Hmmm, now I’m thinking that means a threesome, but too often I believe it means that they just want a friend to go barhopping with. I did ask if they were up for a threesome, they said they were but I really wasn’t convinced of that. I wasn’t too keen on having another threesome attempt after the last fiasco I had, but maybe this time would be different. You never know until you try. ;)
So I barfined both of them, they said they were hungry so I suggested we all go to Kokomo’s for a bite, they said they would rather go to another place located nearby on top of the Lancelot bar, I forget the name but it was a nice place with some decent food. It actually was probably one of the most expensive places in Angeles and they both ordered some of the most expensive dishes on the menu, the bill came out to be over 4,000 pesos! Now don’t get me wrong, I am not a Cheap Charlie and I am there for new experiences and to have a good time, but you have to watch that the girls don’t spend too much of your money.
After our late dinner we then went to go Karaoke at one of the numerous shacks on the road North of Fields. These shacks are more for the locals as I was the only foreigner there; it was interesting in a way to see how the locals get their entertainment. One thing for sure is the drinks were a lot cheaper! All of the Filipinos were very polite and friendly to me, but I still felt a little out of place there.
We then went to Agasya for a few drinks, there were some nice lookers in there but as I already had two girls my plate was already full! Speaking of which, through the course of the evening, it was becoming apparent that Michelle was not really into doing a threesome. Since I preferred her anyways I simply asked Ecel if it was alright if just Michelle and I left to go to the hotel, both the girls were happy at the new arrangement. Since it was getting late I paid our bill and took my girl back to the hotel.
Now Michelle had the face of an angel and was very shy and coquettish. From what I have gathered from my experiences, a shy girl can either be a real gem or a real dud, unfortunately she turned out to be a bit of a dud. After an overall just average romp in the sack the first thing afterwards she did was grab the TV remote and proceeded to watch some of those truly awful Tagalog movies. I couldn’t get even a word of conversation out of her as she was completely hypnotized by the boob tube! She made it easy on me when she said she had to leave early the next morning because of her weekly hygiene checkup. That was fine by me, no tears or proclamations of love! Yay!
The last day I found a cutie from Samar (There seem to be a lot of women from Samar that work in these bars) named Trixie from the Bunny Ranch. She was a lot of fun and very good at doing a blow job shot as well as a having a special gift of shaking her ass in a way that rivaled Shakira! I ended up barfining her and had a terrific all night GFE with her. It is simply so easy to find fun attractive girls who will rock your world all night long in this city, I love this place!
The next day it was unfortunately time for me to go, I had been in Angeles almost a week now and it was time to experience new and different things. Although there was a part of me that was having such a good time and didn’t want to leave!
Next stop: Manila
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Keep the good reports coming Sagramore. I've enjoyed reading your posts so far. Those are the kinds of reports this forum was made for.
I do want to share one piece of advice that a very honest waitress from the old Lolipop Club once shared with me.....don't fall for their act. During one of my first trips to the PI, I always felt bad the next day when I'd ask the girl to leave and suddenly the pouting or sometimes tears would start. Once I even had to have the hotel security guard where I was staying remove a girl who simply didn't want to leave because "she was in love with me" after one night. Fortunately I met a very honest waitress who told me it was all an act. These girls are taught that western men have a conscience unlike their Filipiono men and that we can be manipulated in many ways. They are taught these tricks of the trade to get longer barfines and bigger tips. It's called the "Sucker Complex". The true suckers will feel so bad for their poor honeyko when they return to their country that they'll even send these girls money via Western Union for support. This is the true goal of the working girl. I know it sounds cynical, but after 40 trips to the PI and seeing nearly everything, please believe me that I know the routine there.
Case in point...if your little honey from Welcome Inn really "loved" you after one night, she would not have let you get ripped off P500 for a P50 trike ride. Even your girl who took care of you while you were sick probably was doing it in the hopes that you'd give her a large compensation or even develop some attachment for her so she'd have some Western Union money coming in when you leave the PI. They learn these tricks the day they start working in a bar. I think it's called "GRO Class 101". Or maybe "How to Spot a Sucker".
Don't feel bad about it or let it spoil your fun. It's the same for all of us. What I normally do now is avoid this potential disaster by telling them upfront that I'm just looking for a one night barfine because I may be leaving the next day or I have a business meeting at 3 PM so they can't stay later than that. Since I started using this routine years ago, I've never had one girl refuse a barfine and I've avoided the waterworks and drama when it's time for them to go. These girls are for the most part uneducated but that doesn't mean they aren't smart. We just have to stay one step ahead of them and their manipulations.
Having said all that, enjoy your time there but have no regrets. Don't let their games play on your conscience or western sense of chivalry. And definately keep up the great posts!
Cheers & Good Luck.
Soju Lizard,
Your advice is timely.
I was half contemplating sending a little gift to one young darling I met in AC and have kept in contact with.
She hasn't asked for anything (yet) but so little goes a long way there, and I thought that it would be no big deal.
But you are so right. They know how to ident and manipulate the sucker and despite best intentions ie feeling sorry for the poor girls, life is what it is and you can't save all of em.
But rational thought tends to go out the window when you hear their voices (must stop ringing her).
Again, thanks for the reality check. I am going back up there for a week in June, and possibly again longer term in July. I really need to get my shit together as to how I deal with the emotional blackmail etc , otherwise it could turn out to be a disaster.
Not only Filipino girls, but every girl everywhere in this whole world. Let's not just the girls in AC! If you don't have the extra money, don't give. If you have money to share, then it's no big deal to share a little.
Greetings Sojo Lizard,
Thanks for the kind words and advice, it is well taken. As I mentioned in my first "chapter" even though I’ve been around the block a few times I still consider myself a rookie, sometimes making dumb mistakes. Hopefully some readers can benefit from my stories, or at least be entertained. I have more chapters to come and trust me I’ve made some good mistakes!
As far as my Welcome Inn honey, you’re right about the fact that she let me get ripped off by the trike driver, something I realized after the fact as well. When she, or any girl, starts talking about love after only one night it can be nothing but trouble as far as I’m concerned. Either she is trying to manipulate a guy, as you mention, or worse perhaps she thinks she means it!
In some ways these girls can be very mature and down to earth because of their culture and background in poverty compared to Western women of similar ages, but in other ways they can have the emotional attitudes and maturity of a 12 year old when it comes to relationships. Another one of the many paradoxes one finds in the Philippines.
Cheers!
Reading Bold Focker and Paul3456 reports on getting to AC via Philippine Rabbit bus. Most appealing is avoiding Manila traffic and the lower price. Also is avoiding the 2 hour small talk with a private driver who is only trying to figure out what else he might be of service for while you are in town. That makes for a long trip.
Some questions though:
1. Is it safe and possible to carry 2 pieces of luggage including a laptop using Philipine Rabbit.
2. Confused where the bus station might be. Is D Jose station the same as Avenida Philipine rabbit?
The alternative Swagman Fly the bus schedule is not convenient for my morning arrival, but if anyone knows of a similar service, this would be appreciated.
Thanks for the great reporting!
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard] These girls are taught that western men have a conscience unlike their Filipiono men and that we can be manipulated in many way ... They learn these tricks the day they start working in a bar. I think it's called "GRO Class 101". Or maybe "How to Spot a Sucker"... Don't feel bad about it or let it spoil your fun ... These girls are for the most part uneducated but that doesn't mean they aren't smart ... We just have to stay one step ahead of them and their manipulations ... Having said all that, enjoy your time there but have no regrets. Don't let their games play on your conscience or western sense of chivalry.
[/QUOTE]
Soju Lizard:
Very wisely said, indeed! I can't agree more! All of us are well-advised to keep your words in mind - always!
BTW, one girl from Nero's who "loves me soooo very much" sent me recently much to my biggest surprise her first (!) e-mail. Tenor: "I want to finish school and have to pay my rent next week. Please send me some money, my love!" To cut a long story short, their "games" might even continue after months. Anybody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hey folks.... I'll be in AC 25-29 Mar staying at the Orange Lion on Fields... Any one want to get together and be each other's wingman?? Always more fun with another monger...
Be safe out there,
[QUOTE=Hesekiels] her first (!) e-mail. Tenor: "I want to finish school and have to pay my rent next week. Please send me some money, my love!"
Anybody with a similar experience?[/QUOTE]
Hehe, very common question. Having heard that a dozen times but never sent anything.
My latest passion is bringing handphones as a little give-away.
Our Tesco-Supermarket has thrown out Motorola phones recently for 111 Malaysian Ringgit (25 Euro).
Bought some and give it sometimes to the gals as souvenir.
If theirs are lost, stolen or they dont have one or given to pawnshop or what ever.
Ready to be grilled for that.......... :D
Ekspat
[QUOTE=Great Expecta]I'll be in AC 25-29 Mar staying at the Orange Lion on Fields... Any one want to get together and be each other's wingman?[/QUOTE]
Too bad, me arriving on 30th.
Have fun and stay safe!
Cheers!
sagramore
The welcome inn girl didn't allow the trike driver to rip you off. She's a part of the deal. They split the 500. That's how things work in many country, mostly poor ones. It is viewed as normal business even though the girl and the driver are perfect strangers. It takes a couple of winks and the deal is set. The girl is a middle-man bringing the deal together. A good girl would fight for you. Keep your report comming
My tentative plans before I arrived in the Phils were to monger in Manila and Angeles for a couple of weeks then travel to Davao and Cebu to spend the majority of my stay searching for non-p4p beauties. As great of a plan this was it simply did not happen that way. After a couple of weeks in Manila and Angeles I found that I simply was not ready to abandon the bar scene just yet. I thought I would try an experiment, to go back to Angeles and achieve what I would call "Bar Girl Saturation Point". That is; the point every monger reaches where they simply have had enough of the whole bar-girl scene and is ready to move on to bigger and better things. Unfortunately, in the six weeks I was there in the Phils I didn’t reach that point until I was ready to leave!
I tried to make a reservation at the Royal Amsterdam but unfortunately they were booked, I wanted to stay on Fields Ave and the only hotel I could find a room at was the Blue Nile Executive Hotel. It is basically next door to the Royal Amsterdam which meant that the location was great if you wanted to be close to the action, however, the hotel itself was only okay in my view. The room I was in was very small and the entire hotel is done with this Egyptian theme that I found to be rather gaudy and somewhat silly. There is a bar with a swimming pool downstairs which I actually never used, it seems I was usually in my room either sleeping or. Um, doing other things!
So on my first night back in Angeles I went to the Las Vegas bar, the place did have some nice lookers however there weren’t very many customers. I met an 18 year old cutie named Elma. I usually don’t go for girls this young, but as I was sitting in the bar drinking my San Mig she was grinding on my lap in a way that made me seriously horny. Not to mention that she had a perfect body, curvy with absolutely perfect firm breasts and a nice flat stomach. I barfined her but as it turns out she was kind of a dud in the sack, just kind of laid there kind of girl. She said she had to leave early the next morning because of some story that I really didn’t understand concerning her mother, under the circumstances it was fine by me.
Now, as my adventure continues I should mention a word or two about door girls. Every bar in Angeles takes attractive and personable girls and puts them outside the front door to entice passerby’s to check out their particular bar. One night I met a door-girl named Mary Ann at a bar called Barhoppin that was off the Fields Ave. Strip, right by the Sky Trax disco. After some flirtatious banter on the street, she grabbed my by the hand and literally dragged me inside. The bar itself was only so-so with average girls inside; however, I was having a good time with Mary Ann so a stayed for a few drinks. She met my criteria in that she was sweet, sexy and seemed to genuinely enjoy my company. She told me that she liked me because I "wasn’t an asshole! "
There are clearly a number of men who treat women in these bars like *****s and objects, by grabbing them and talking trashy. Now, I’m not here to tell anyone how to act or talk, far from it, I can only say about what I have experienced and what works for me. Personally, I prefer to be more of a gentleman and not think of these women as prostitutes, I want them to "pick me" as much as I pick them. I like to have fun at these places and sometimes I find myself being the life of the party. This is actually interesting as I’m usually the quiet type when I’m back home. Something about this place brings it out in me I guess! I’ve found that when you use the fun gentleman approach you are more likely to find a true GFE. In the case of Mary Anne, my demeanor definitely worked!
A quick note about door girls, keep in mind that if she is a door girl, she will be outside the bar when she is working and will see you every time you walk by. If you are alone she may accost you drag you into the bar, if she sees you with another girl you may be in for a little jealousy or drama. So I asked Mary Anne if she wanted to barfine with me, she said yes. We went back to my hotel where I discovered that even though she was basically a shy girl, she turned out to be an absolute tiger in the bedroom! She was easily one of the horniest women I have ever been with, after a generous amount of foreplay this petite 5 foot young quiet girl turned into an absolute uninhibited animal! That night I found nirvana gentlemen, pure, absolute, unadulterated nirvana.
She stayed with me for three consecutive days and I would have liked to spent more time with her but chose to let her go because she simply did not like to talk very much. As I’ve stated before, she was an absolute tigress and one of the best lays I’ve ever had but I must say that after a few days of nonstop bedroom gymnastics it actually starts to get a little boring. Call me crazy but I actually like to have an occasional conversation with a woman and that’s where the trouble begins. As sweet and I’ll even say as sincere as she was, she simply did not have much to say about much of anything. I tried my best to get her to open up and talk about any subject but the effort was in vain. Keep in mind I’m not asking for much, even just a superficial banal conversation, but alas, even finding that can be sometimes difficult.
From my experiences I’ve learned that these women that end up in the bars are not the brightest or best educated, let’s face it, if they were they wouldn’t be working in a bar. They can be very sweet, sexy and fun but because of their backgrounds they will often not be very smart or interesting.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss]sagramore
The welcome inn girl didn't allow the trike driver to rip you off. She's a part of the deal. They split the 500. That's how things work in many country, mostly poor ones. It is viewed as normal business even though the girl and the driver are perfect strangers. It takes a couple of winks and the deal is set. The girl is a middle-man bringing the deal together. A good girl would fight for you. Keep your report comming[/QUOTE]
Watching the trikes that hang around outside hotels in AC and nightspots, I cannot stop feeling that there is a cartel mafia at work. The girl may have also been too darn scared to help as she has to live there. I always walk or take a jeepney for longer distances as I just to not want to waste energy arguing with the crooks.
Allow me: Bus services from Metro Manila to AC are not limited to Philippine Rabbit and Swagman's Fly the Bus. Here's an alternative which I took when I was in Manila in Feb.:
Take a metered cab to the Victory Liner bus terminal in Pasay. The bus terminal is located on the slip road serving the EDSA, which is a main artery through the city. I believe the Philippine Rabbit terminal is also in the vicinity. From the Victory Liner bus terminal, catch a bus bound for Northern Luzon. It terminates in Baguio and there should be only one ticket counter. Tell them you want to get off at Dau, which is just north of AC and is served by a busy bus terminal. Cost was something like PHP120 or so and there are buses every hour or half hour depending on the time of day. The ride takes about 2 hours. From the Dau bus terminal, I found trike drivers aplenty willing to take me to Fields Ave. The trike driver asked for PHP50 and I wasnt about to bargain over a buck. The ride took all of 10 mins through the smell of exhaust fumes (mostly) and BBQ meat.
Regarding the 2 pieces of luggage and the laptop, just exercise common sense. Bring the laptop on the bus with you but the luggage may go in the bus' luggage compartment. On second thoughts you might not be able to fit all that on a trike so you may have to hail a cab from Dau.
Enjoy your trip.
[QUOTE=Asia Smiles]Reading Bold Focker and Paul3456 reports on getting to AC via Philippine Rabbit bus. Most appealing is avoiding Manila traffic and the lower price. Also is avoiding the 2 hour small talk with a private driver who is only trying to figure out what else he might be of service for while you are in town. That makes for a long trip.
Some questions though:
1. Is it safe and possible to carry 2 pieces of luggage including a laptop using Philipine Rabbit.
2. Confused where the bus station might be. Is D Jose station the same as Avenida Philipine rabbit?
The alternative Swagman Fly the bus schedule is not convenient for my morning arrival, but if anyone knows of a similar service, this would be appreciated.
Thanks for the great reporting![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Allow me: Bus services from Metro Manila to AC are not limited to Philippine Rabbit and Swagman's Fly the Bus. Here's an alternative which I took when I was in Manila in Feb.:
Take a metered cab to the Victory Liner bus terminal in Pasay. [/QUOTE]
Yeah Raverboi, the MIA-Pasay-Dau route was the one I described in my previous post and is probably the smoothest public bus ride to AC.
Current prices is something like P90 regular P119 aircon. As previously stated meter taxi to Pasay is 70+
I would prefer to keep the baggage inside the bus though. Always did and never had a problem. Same with the cab.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Allow me: Bus services from Metro Manila to AC are not limited to Philippine Rabbit and Swagman's Fly the Bus ... Here's an alternative which I took when I was in Manila in Feb ... Take a metered cab to the Victory Liner bus terminal in Pasay. .[/QUOTE]
Raverboy is right! Further options are: Dagupan Bus, Five Star, Partas, Dangwa Trans, Farinas, Maria de Leon etc. However, most companies have their terminals in the Cubao district (ask any taxi driver).
As all buses run via EDSA one can also wait there (plenty of bus stops in QC!). Normally one won't wait longer than 15 minutes to catch any north-bound bus via Dau. Simply hop off at Mabalacat bus terminal (Dau) and take a tricyle or Jeepney to Balibago!
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Asia Smiles]Reading Bold Focker and Paul3456 reports on getting to AC via Philippine Rabbit bus. Most appealing is avoiding Manila traffic and the lower price. Also is avoiding the 2 hour small talk with a private driver who is only trying to figure out what else he might be of service for while you are in town. That makes for a long trip.
Some questions though:
1. Is it safe and possible to carry 2 pieces of luggage including a laptop using Philipine Rabbit.
2. Confused where the bus station might be. Is D Jose station the same as Avenida Philipine rabbit?
The alternative Swagman Fly the bus schedule is not convenient for my morning arrival, but if anyone knows of a similar service, this would be appreciated.
Thanks for the great reporting![/QUOTE]
to asia smiles
Yes Philippine rabbit bus stations is near D jose LTR stations at avendia it run every half an hr cost is 130 peso ,I take this 2 month ago trip only take
one hr 30 min it stop it dau first and then AC bus stations , you can ask driver to drop you off at field and Macarthur , on return trip go to the check point and take the jeepney to dau stations 10 pesos.
fast eddie 48
One night on a good bar hop session, I staggered over to the Winchester Club, which unfortunately is now closed. It is a shame as I thought it was a great bar. When I walked in there was a table with four attractive girls at it, when they saw me they got up and offered to give the table to me. Now, what fun is that sitting at a table all by yourself? I sat down on the condition that they all had to stay with me, they all giggled and agreed, and so started a night of absolute drunken silliness. I was in a generous mood so I bought all four ladies a drink, they all clapped and cheered and I was a hero! We all talked, joked and laughed; everyone was having a good time, so another round for the table! Yay! I’m a hero once more! A few more rounds, more laugher the bar owner, a nice friendly chap whose name I unfortunately forgot, bought me a drink on the house, then another, and another. I love a friendly bar that appreciates a good customer and treats them well.
We were becoming the loud table with our laughter and silliness, at one point I was actually on the main stage dancing and teaching the girls some new moves! I ended up barfining one of the girls named Myra, it was a hard choice as I found all of them sweet, fun and attractive. What really did it for me was the fact that she was quite a pool shark, she beat me at quite a few games and was quite sassy about it (sassy in a good way). There are few things sexier than a hot girl in a bikini and high heels leaning over a pool table and making a shot with attitude.
My point in talking about a closed bar is that I think that a real key to success in a town like this is to be a fun guy, being generous helps too. Not to come off the wrong way here, but at the end of the drunken night all of those girls wanted to go home with me, not because of money but because I was nice to them and was fun to boot. Of course they would have probably gone with me if I was a jerk too, as long as I paid them, but that’s not my point. I tend to think of it as "bar karma", that is, where one gets out what they put into it. If you are a fun person who is respectful than you will find a great GFE in abundance, if you act like a jerk than you will more than likely find an endless parade of cold fish lays and runners.
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[color=purple]I've done the bus thing going from Manila to Dau ang back to Manila many times. Suggestions I would make are:
-Pay for a Nissan taxi to the Bus terminal may cost to much but I've done the go up to departure thing and get a Taxi, then get hassled by the guys that watch for this. I've also walked down to the main road and caught a Taxi and that is a pain in the ass if you have much luggage. So pay for a Nissan Taxi from the terminal to the bus station. You're saving a lot by taken the bus so don't try and over do it and jam yourself up with somebody trying to f*uk you over for grabbing a drop off taxi or get robbed of your things walking down that ramp to the main road.
-If you’re thinking about asking a Taxi driver in the departures to take you to AC, don't. I've know two guys who got robbed doing this. One got a trip to the hospital too. Only take the Nissan Taxi or the one the hotel sends for you. You can f*uck up your whole trip trying to save a few dollars. When you are in a taxi and you have your cell phone call someone and tell them your with so in so driver on the way and the name of the Taxi company. Do this even if you're just acting like your talking to someone on the phone, the driver then thinks someone knows his name and Taxi Company. I have taken Taxis many times from the departures area but at night this is not recommended at all, very dangerous. Day time it can be too, but remember is saving maybe $7-8 worth f*uking up your vacation???
-If you are alone going to the bus station and I've been to most of them, even the one in Tonto, they are not the safest places to hang out. Make sure you always have your luggage in your hands. Don't sleep in a waiting area outside the bus. When you put luggage in the compartment make sure the bus driver and attendant for the bus know it's your's and maybe a p5 or p10 tip to watch it for you. They stop all up and down the highway and in Manila and someone could grab your's and take off. Sit on the side of the bus where the bag compartment opens and when they stop make sure you are watching just for safe measure. Some people could target your bags and only get on the bus to steal them at the next stop, they know you just came in from abroad with lots of nice presents in the bags to steal.
-Sit in the bus next to the window on the side the bag compartment is on if you have bags in there. Hopefully a female sits next to you or no one, but the buses are normally full by the time they are leaving Manila and on the Highway. If a guy sits next to you be careful he may be a pick pocket, don’t eat or drink anything someone offers you on the bus, maybe they want you to go to sleep. These buses have been robbed before; I suggest you not carry much cash. Have a wallet, if you don't they know you are hiding it. I always have a PI wallet, one that has an ID, some peso, a few dollars and an expire credit card (so save one that you were going to cut up). If you get robbed when they open the wallet they think they hit the jackpot and move on. Don't never attempt to tell them you don't a have anything or fuck off you can't have it, they will f*uck you up or worst. Keep your "real" wallet in a safe spot somewhere, just remember if you have a small bag or computer they will take that more than likely so it best to hide your wallet in your sock, shoe or down in your briefs. I may sound paranoid but I've been on the bus, mostly good experiences.
-Overall the Bus is great way to save money, meet girls and if the bus isn't full and your sitting in the back with your girl, maybe a BJ on the way; I've had that experience before nice to past the time on the bus while your girl works your TT.
-When you get to Dau, most Trikes have a large bag rack on the top or rear. If you have a couple of big bags no problem. Expect to pay p50-100. If the guy is nice and watches your stuff carefully and isn't an ass throw him a p100 and let him keep the change. I've never needed a Taxi from Dau and I've had some big bags with me before.
-In review, the bus is good, watch your bags, don't have much cash, have a decoy wallet (this is good all the time) and don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] a driver, passenger or trike driver off. Just remember you came to the PI to relax and have a good time, most of the people in the PI are always in a relaxed state of mind with nothing being to urgent to them so don't let this attitude they have get to you, take it easy and enjoy.
Have a great trip,
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Allow me: Bus services from Metro Manila to AC are not limited to Philippine Rabbit and Swagman's Fly the Bus. Here's an alternative which I took when I was in Manila in Feb.:
Take a metered cab to the Victory Liner bus terminal in Pasay. The bus terminal is located on the slip road serving the EDSA, which is a main artery through the city. I believe the Philippine Rabbit terminal is also in the vicinity. From the Victory Liner bus terminal, catch a bus bound for Northern Luzon. It terminates in Baguio and there should be only one ticket counter. Tell them you want to get off at Dau, which is just north of AC and is served by a busy bus terminal. Cost was something like PHP120 or so and there are buses every hour or half hour depending on the time of day. The ride takes about 2 hours. From the Dau bus terminal, I found trike drivers aplenty willing to take me to Fields Ave. The trike driver asked for PHP50 and I wasnt about to bargain over a buck. The ride took all of 10 mins through the smell of exhaust fumes (mostly) and BBQ meat.
Regarding the 2 pieces of luggage and the laptop, just exercise common sense. Bring the laptop on the bus with you but the luggage may go in the bus' luggage compartment. On second thoughts you might not be able to fit all that on a trike so you may have to hail a cab from Dau.
Enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE]
Why not hire a private car if you want to travel around or a van service? Why not spend the 40 plus dollars on the trip? How do you guys travel at home? Walk!
Fly the bus is ok and the only people you have to deal with is out front of the swaggy in Manila. This at time is enough. I will never understand why if not sure or worried about whats at one end or another why they want the cheepest form of travel. After all It's much cheeper than at home.
B. B.
[QUOTE=Razzor] I've done the bus thing going from Manila to Dau ang back to Manila many times. Suggestions I would make are: ... [/QUOTE]
Nicely elaborated, Razzor! I travel quite regulary by bus to AC and never faced any problems, but I admit, mostly during daytime and without heavy luggage. However, when I arrive late at night at NAIA I always arrange for a pick-up service beforehand. Although it costs ten times as much it's worth it. Safer and also more comfortable, particularly after a long flight.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Great responses. Much thanks.
Since I'll be arriving around noon, and AC doesn't start rocking till late night, the bus seems like a good alternative. This will be my second visit to AC, and I did not care for the 2 hour mindless conversation with the hired taxi driver. Some of these cab drivers only want to figure out how much more money they can get out of you.
Besides, Manila traffic just about kills the first 45 minutes of the trip, so I don't see the point in paying for pick up at the airport to AC. I do see the point is paying a little more to make sure you make it to the bus station safe and sound. The same applies at arrival at DAU.
All good tips, as most of this is true anywhere you go, but I'm sure especially good advice in the Phils.
Found the victoryliner.com website, and the busses seem comfortable enough. I've done the bus ride from Pattaya to Bangkok, and these busses seem better.
Is there any difference between the PASAY bus station vs. CUBAO? Both indicate located in EDSA.
And a BJ on the way to AC, wow, what a way to travel Razzor!
After a week at the Blue Nile Executive Hotel I was ready to leave and find something different. I walked around and checked out different hotels in the area, inquiring about availability while checking out the rooms and accommodations. I found that that Natalia Apartelle would fit my needs perfectly and they had a great room rate. The building itself is pretty new, it has a nice convenience store, money changer and cyber café on the ground level and the rooms are spacious and nicely appointed with a kitchenette and refrigerator. The only thing I didn’t like was there was no room safe.
One afternoon I decided to check out some of the bars on Santos Street, the infamous “blow row”. I went to the Black Pearl and the other place that was next door to it, I think it was called Honky Tonk. So here I am sitting at the bar in Honky Tonk with my San Mig light and I started talking to a young girl. Now, usually I am the type of guy that girls like to talk to, confess their problems to and trust me with all kinds of personal things. Today was no different, this girl starts telling me her depressing life story complete with a baby in Manila that she is working at this place to support. She tells me how much she hates working there and quite frankly who could blame her. I tried the Black Pearl next door but the girls were so aggressive for a short time session that it became annoying. I know there are many that have had better experiences at these places and to each his own of course, but I actually found them to be rather depressing. Not quite the quality I was looking for when I go to monger!
I eventually developed a daytime routine, to stop in at Rick’s café (which is now gone, replaced by a new bar called Carousel) for lunch and to watch a movie they always had playing, then would usually head to the Doll House next door and play pool on the tables they have upstairs. I became friends with several of the waitresses, I would have an agreement with all of the girls; if they could beat me at pool then I would buy them a drink. Since I’m such a lousy shot I usually lost and they would get their drink. Needless to say the girls would line up to beat me everyday and collect their commissions. Although after doing this almost every day I started to improve my game quite a bit, I wasn’t such an easy target after a while! I would spend several hours in there and have a great time all for about 1000-1500 pesos. Sometimes I would meet up with some of the waitresses after work and hang out with them at Kokomos or the Midnight Rodeo bar, which is a bar that features live music and dancing, there are no girls there.
I also had a daytime routine of having a drink or two at the Dirty Duck. I became friends with the waitresses and two in particular named Rachelle and Michelle. I never did barfine any of them although they were both very attractive, mostly because one of them was a cherry girl and the other was more of a friend.
Admittedly, one does lack for non-bar things to do during the daytime, there is usually only so much of hanging out in bars that one can take. There is the new SM mall that offers some shopping or maybe a movie. Although the best thing I’ve found is when you have a fun girl the night before to keep you company the next day!
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[QUOTE=Hesekiels]BTW, one girl from Nero's who "loves me soooo very much" sent me recently much to my biggest surprise her first (!) e-mail. Tenor: "I want to finish school and have to pay my rent next week. Please send me some money, my love!" To cut a long story short, their "games" might even continue after months. Anybody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Had similar in Thailand mate,
same same story need extra. If them lady gets 1 sucker a nite then have 30 suckers already in month and if just 1 sends money she win. So happen not only in AC.
pirate1
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]For the hardcore cheap charlies there are plenty of jeeps available @ L&T just outside the airport. Less than P10 to checkpoint.[/QUOTE]
No wayz to hide me a cheap charlie mate.
Outside Clark airport at L&T---is these store/shop?
Where is checkpoint in AC?--is a bar?
Also will zee jeepie drop off me in hotel for P10 or price extra?
Thankz matie.
Pirate1
[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Watched the program "the lens", here in Canada. a special called, "selling sex in heaven". about all the girls who come from the provinces to work in the bars in Angeles. man thoses casas are terrible places. fuk them bastards who keep the girls there. the maintainers/proprieters should be shot on site if they're caught. the girls are locked up all day and night in a small room. disgusting. and to all you pricks who treat the working girls like shit, you can shove your head up your ass and disappear. they do this to help their families, it's unfortunate, but thats the only way, I guess. peace out.[/QUOTE]So you would rather see their families starve. Very good logic.
[QUOTE=Zoltan3939]So you would rather see their families starve. Very good logic.[/QUOTE]As a Canadian he's most likely brainwashed by the extreme feminism there.
As far as I know, eg. Scandinavia is very similar.
Poor guys.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]As a Canadian he's most likely brainwashed by the extreme feminism there.
As far as I know, eg. Scandinavia is very similar.
Poor guys.......[/QUOTE]Hi Ekspat:
Maybe you are right, but just for the sake of good order, not all the Canadians are necessarily "brainwashed" - thank G*d, I must say! It will be my greatest pleasure to prove that to you next week in AC! :) BTW, for your recent post you owe me at least three SM, ok!?
See you in the promised city,
Hesekiels
You can't read or what? The impression I get from the program is that the girls in a casa are held there against their will. If it's wrong, tell me about it, don't go spewing your shit about brainwashing and feminism. I also said, " they do this to help their families, it's unfortunate, but thats the only way, I guess". So where do you come up with the notion that I'd rather see their families starve?. All I'm saying is treat the girls right, which I'm sure the majority of mongers do.
[QUOTE=Sagramore]I tend to think of it as "bar karma", that is, where one gets out what they put into it. If you are a fun person who is respectful than you will find a great GFE in abundance, if you act like a jerk than you will more than likely find an endless parade of cold fish lays and runners.[/QUOTE]
Yes so very true! This is paramount to having a good time in AC !
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]BTW, for your recent post you owe me at least three SM, ok!?[/QUOTE]
Okay, man, but happy hour only!!
See you!
[QUOTE=Pirate1]No wayz to hide me a cheap charlie mate.
Outside Clark airport at L&T---is these store/shop?
Where is checkpoint in AC?--is a bar?
Also will zee jeepie drop off me in hotel for P10 or price extra?
Thankz matie.
Pirate1[/QUOTE]
Ahoy Pirate1!
1) L&T LuenThai = a garment factory near CRK airport, just turn right when you exit the airport gates pass L&T and you will soon find yourself on CM Recto Hwy. From there take a jeepney going left (your butt facing L&T). Check w/ the driver that he's going to checkpoint.
2) To make checkpoint a bar, bring your own rum. To get the rum, just walk a few meters to your right (Fields)
3) No but not really needed if your hotel is centrally located on/near Fields. Else just grab a trike.
BTW...a small correction/update. The fare L&T -> checkpoint is only P 8.50 while the fare Checkpoint -> Airport is a whopping P 9.50!
PS Remember to tip the girls zero to nuthin (if at all..I mean..an EWR fee is really "all-in") and kick the beggars' butts good (especially the deformed ones, who are probably already well aware of the occupational hazards) In other words, enjoy your stay in AC ! :D
Cheers,
PN
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]From there take a jeepney going left (your butt facing L&T). Check w/ the driver that he's going to checkpoint.[/quote]
Just check the jeepney. The route is being written right and left side of the jeepney.
DMIA Maingate or somewhat like this.
[quote]
BTW...a small correction/update. The fare L&T -> checkpoint is only P 8.50 while the fare Checkpoint -> Airport is a whopping P 9.50!
[/quote]
Damn!! Often I give 10ps and don't get any change.
Daytime robbery, will report to tourist police next time!
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Just check the jeepney. The route is being written right and left side of the jeepney.
DMIA Maingate or somewhat like this.
[/QUOTE]
Good point.
I'd also like to add a word of warning with regards to jeepney rides.
The "real bad coughing" pick-pocketeers act is alive and kicking in AC. A fat, ugly filipino gentleman decided to sit down beside me while riding a jeepney on McArthur a few days ago Unfortunately he was very sick and kept coughing a lot, while applying maximum rolly-polly pressure to my right side. As I suddenly decided to get off a little bit before the end of the line, he probably got a little sloppy and pulled my wallet rather clumsily. To cut to the chase, I got my wallet back, with all its contents untouched. Another rider who rode to the final stop later told me that the fat, ugly & sick filipino's coughing completely stopped once I took off. Instant healing ;)
I hadn't been to AC in three years. Not sure why. I guess i got tired of the monotonous offers of "trike" "t-shirt", etc. I love drinking and sex, but somehow a white sand beach was always calling when I walked down the dirty path of Santos Ave.
Maybe the kicker was a Sunday afternoon, after going downtown for church and market strolling, only to fine my wallet was gone at the end of the jeepney ride. That was my last time in AC - three years ago.
Three years later, I find things have changed a bit. There are a lot of new hotels, and some more that will open soon. I noticed that my old favorite from three years ago (America) has lowered it's rates. Santos ave is paved....and cleaner....
Having rented a car and a bike at Pattay and Koh Somui I was disappointed at how difficult it was to rent a bike in AC three years ago. Apparently that problem has been solved as there are places to rent a bike. Now, if someone would kindly rent me a bicycle.
The third thing I noticed different..... three years ago some of the dancers in some of the bars were trying to do some choreography. Most of it was pretty lame, but I appreciated their efforts. Now, wow. Doll house has some good stuff. I also saw a couple of girls at Fire and Ice who had been dancing together since high school and had a good routine. It was kind of sad buying the cute one a drink because the other one seemed to be lost. Ha, ha.
Then there is the Illusions bar. The girls stand there. I asked, "why don't they dance. ". The answer was, "they don't like the music". Well, it was old rock, but the girls at Brown Sugar and many other bars have no trouble with the old music. I guess the only illusion at Illusions is that they acutally have dancers there. The only redeeming point about Illusion is Hana, but she is also an illusion. She's very selective about bar fine. Give the place a miss.
X man
While in an AC bar CR, I saw a sign for Cialis at 175 a pop. I bought some for the first time. The next bar had a similar sign, but for 400 a pop. I thought, oops, I must have bought some fake stuff.
I've never used the stuff before so didn't know what to expect. Also, I wasn't sure how to test it since the girls tend to do a pretty good job of getting me hard. How would I know if the vitamins work?
The next day, I found myself pretty exhausted after a long night of drinking and fking. I figured this is the time to test the stuff. I ate one and then went out. At Stampede a girl I had barfined earlier quickly rubbed me hard. She was pretty hot so I still wasn't sure if my woody was a result of the vitamin or the woman's skillful stroking. I was tempted to short time, but eventually went on my way. I stopped at one of the outside bars and met a cherry girl who was really sweet. She said she finished work at 9 and I made a date for dinner. Well, I guess I wasn't going to test the Cialis after all.
I do some more bar hopping and when 9pm rolls around I go back to the bar with the cherry girl. She says she has to ask her sister for permission. Huh? Why couldn't she have done that in the two hours since agreed to the date. She seems reluctant to leave. I have a bag of laundry so I tell her to text me. I take my laundry back to my room and relax a bit. No text. I text her and find out she's at home? THanks for wasting my time. I call her and give her a piece of my mind. (She texts me numerous times a day for the rest of my trip and even offers herself to me....but I never take her out).
Okay, since cherry girl spaced out, I'm free again. I do some more bar hopping. It starts raining. I walk by a bar and there is a very attractive woman, doe eyes, hair down to her ass crack standing alone at the door. She doesn't shout at me to come in ....I walk past and then turn around to talk to her. She's alone because the rain has made it a bit chilly and the others went inside. We talk a bit and at some point she says she's not working.
Why are you here?
I was bored.
I'm hungry, do you want to go get something to eat?
Okay, but you walk ahead. I don't want the mamasan to know because you didn't pay the barfine.
We eat, hit one bar, and then back to my room. So, I'm tired and drunk -- a time when it's most difficult to get / stay hard. So, did the Cialis work?
Oh yea. This girl was insatiable. We started at about 1am and didn't get out of bed until 2pm the next afternoon. I can't count how many times I rode her. Twice during the night I had to push her off me because I wanted to get some sleep. I doubt I could have kept up with her without help from the Cialis. My balls ached for the rest of the day.
Later I learned that she's on steady bar fine, but the guy was out of town. Gee, thanks dude. I took some pictures and gave her 1000 as a modeling fee.
X man
[QUOTE=X Man]While in an AC bar CR, I saw a sign for Cialis at 175 a pop. I bought some for the first time. The next bar had a similar sign, but for 400 a pop. I thought, oops, I must have bought some fake stuff.
[/QUOTE]
Virtually ALL "v" & "c" sold in Fields are fakes, but most do the job. More or less. Kamagra etc is less common in the PI because it's not "BFAD listed". It's OK to sell fakes in PI as long as the original is listed LOL...
Interesting. In Dec 06 and March 07 I also got sick. Started out with cold like symptoms and in the earlier case a nasty case of tonsillitis which req. visiting a doctor. This time the symptoms have been less severe, but some tonsil swelling. Maybe from the water? Licking snatch? Any ideas?
None of the ladies I played with got sick after our trysts.
X man
[QUOTE=Sagramore]After a full night of fun, I unfortunately woke up the next morning feeling terrible with a raging fever. I think the combination of the long plane ride, jet lag, strange foods and nonstop drinking and screwing took its toll! I ended up feeling worse and worse to the point of calling a doctor. The Royal Amsterdam hotel has a doctor on call that stopped by my hotel room for a checkup, all for 1500 peso. I know back in the USA you could never, I mean never find a doctor to do a house call for 30 bucks! You couldn’t even find a plumber for that price! Anyways, I was diagnosed with tonsillitis, nothing some antibiotics couldn’t cure.
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Not been online much since I was in the Philippines. Reading back I see some posts about busses.
I used the swaggie.com "fly the bus" to AC for 500 pesos, which runs three times a day. They also arrange transport to your hotel on the AC end. The only problem I had was having a conversation with Mr. Chubby behind me. Guy never stopped talking. Some of his stuff was useful, but give me a break. He was on the way to see his honeyko, the mother of three kids (none of them his). He regularly sends money to this woman. Well, good for the five of them. Wow.
On the way back to MLA, I was too late to take F the B, so took a trike to the Dau bus terminal. As I entered there was a Dominion bus on the way out enroute to MLA. I hopped on. 108 pesos to the Cubao terminal in Quezon city. Unfortunately, I wanted to go to the Pasay terminal on EDSA since I had a reservation at Copacapana Hotel. I got caught up on the eve. traffic so abandoned my plan to stay at Copacobana and ended up at a truly horrible hotel called Frendy in Ermita. **** I think I'll add a bit, but the rest belongs in the Manila section.
X Man
Well I posted on my trip to AC in February which I gave my trip detail. Now I have some questions. I am going back to Phil on May 7. I want to stay in Manila for one night before heading to AC. My flight gets in late ay 10:55 PM so I would like to find a good Hotel that wont be to expensive and yet neat the girlie bars and bf for the evening to get myself warmed up fot AC. Any syggestions on where to go and how to best get there from airport. Usually when I go fly in I go right to ac from manila by way of hotel transport. so my question where to stay in Manila near good girlie bars and not have to unload my wallet?
[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting. In Dec 06 and March 07 I also got sick. Started out with cold like symptoms and in the earlier case a nasty case of tonsillitis which req. visiting a doctor. This time the symptoms have been less severe, but some tonsil swelling. Maybe from the water? Licking snatch? Any ideas?
None of the ladies I played with got sick after our trysts.
X man[/QUOTE]
More than likely you just got the Manila "Crud"
Its an allergic reaction to all the pollution in the air from all the jeepneys powered by over-sized lawn mower engines. Try a Claritin a day while you are there. That usually does the trick.
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well I posted on my trip to AC in February which I gave my trip detail. Now I have some questions. I am going back to Phil on May 7. I want to stay in Manila for one night before heading to AC. My flight gets in late ay 10:55 PM so I would like to find a good Hotel that wont be to expensive and yet neat the girlie bars and bf for the evening to get myself warmed up fot AC. Any syggestions on where to go and how to best get there from airport. Usually when I go fly in I go right to ac from manila by way of hotel transport. so my question where to stay in Manila near good girlie bars and not have to unload my wallet?[/QUOTE]
I often do the same and usually stay at the Oxford Suites on P. Burgos St. It's right in the middle of all the action in Makati and the rooms will run you about $55-$65 a night. If you want to spend a little less, the Century Citadel is also on Burgos and it's about $30 a night last I checked. The quickest thing to do is just take the fixed fee taxis right outside of the terminal. Cost is about P400. You can go downstairs through the mob and look for a regular meter taxi but that takes time and you're not always guaranteed to find a taxi willing to give you the meter rate there anyway. Since you come in late and time is short, I'd pay the P400 (about $8) and get over to Burgos as fast as you can. It's about a 30 minute ride from the airport depending on traffic. If you stay at either of those hotels, you won't need any more taxis the rest of the night. You can just stumble from one bar to the next.
Another option is to stay in the Ermita / Malate area. There are numerous hotels in this area. Ermita is especially convenient if you plan to take "fly the bus" to AC.
Soju says 400 for the taxi from the airport to Makati. I think it's 500 for the trip to Ermita.
I also had a late arrival, so I stayed at the Copacabana Hotel ($50) which is very near the airport and right across from EDSA Entertainment plaza. My flight was delayed an hour so this turned out to be a good choice. Right next door is a better hotel - the Heritage ($90?).
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well I posted on my trip to AC in February which I gave my trip detail. Now I have some questions. I am going back to Phil on May 7. I want to stay in Manila for one night before heading to AC. My flight gets in late ay 10:55 PM so I would like to find a good Hotel that wont be to expensive and yet neat the girlie bars and bf for the evening to get myself warmed up fot AC. Any syggestions on where to go and how to best get there from airport. Usually when I go fly in I go right to ac from manila by way of hotel transport. so my question where to stay in Manila near good girlie bars and not have to unload my wallet?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting. In Dec 06 and March 07 I also got sick. Started out with cold like symptoms and in the earlier case a nasty case of tonsillitis which req. visiting a doctor. This time the symptoms have been less severe, but some tonsil swelling. Maybe from the water? Licking snatch? Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
There is a good chance your cold started out on the flight over. Before I fly, I always take an "Airborne" tablet to boost my immune system. Designed for crowded environments and strange places. [url]www.AirborneHealth.com[/url]
It's a relatively new product that works for me!
[QUOTE=Mattrick]There is a good chance your cold started out on the flight over. Before I fly, I always take an "Airborne" tablet to boost my immune system. Designed for crowded environments and strange places. [url]www.AirborneHealth.com[/url]
It's a relatively new product that works for me![/QUOTE]
Agreed, I take this stuff when I feel a cold coming on. It drastically reduces the symptoms and shortens the length.
[QUOTE=Mugroso]It drastically reduces the symptoms and shortens the length.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and in less than 24 hrs I'll be sitting in Club Rio and little Willy is being pampered.
The girls there reduce the symptoms and shorten the length.
Heyhooo :D :D
Cheers!
Just wanted to share this experience with you guys. I have plans to be in AC in about 3 weeks. I'll be in Phi for 1 week. I wanted to take 3 days and check out Boracay. I tried a popular travel agent in town and she gave me a package with hotel and air. This is where the problems started. There are no good ways to pay her! She says to use Western Union but when I visit their site, it won't accept the address or account info she gave me. I asked the travel agent for the information again and she gives me the same info and insists others have used it to pay her. Well, good for them but it didn't work for me. Then she asked me to send her a copy of my ID and credit card. I've been a victim of Identity theft before and I will not use this option. So there you go, I want to pay her but I can't. Why is it that every 2-bit porn site has a payment page but none of the travel agents do? Using a 3rd party like Western Union or Paypal can be a hassel if the recipient doesn't know the process. Anyway, just my rant for the day. See you guys soon.
Egg
Ps. I know I'm paying more by booking from the US. But I'm only there for a week and don't want to run into any scheduling problems once I get there. Also, I want to fly out of Clark and have heard that it is difficult to procure tickets with such short notice.
i took another monger’s advice and joined filipinaheart.com a couple of weeks before my 2 wk trip to pi to meet a few women prior to arrival. that can be hit or miss, as i found the bar girls will jump at the chance to meet you, while the more professional women are very leery about why you are contacting them and considering the length of your visit, why you are there.
lodging - i arrived in manila on 25 mar and hitched a ride to angeles city. i decided what the hell and stayed at kokomos (or mo’s) for 1,650 pesos in a poolside room. the room itself was not bad and it had a desktop computer to use, mini bar, etc. at night however, the music vibrated the entire room and naturally went on all night long. the ac also kept turning off, as it was on a timer. i would not do it again.
fun - i met jennifer on fh.com and called her as soon as i got to ac. she works at fiesta garden hotel as a waitress/dancer and told me in advance she wanted to stay with me, but she still had to pay a 1,000 peso bar fine up front. i decided to take a jeepny down to check her out before hand. she was very cute standing about 5’, a cup (the bad part), and had a great personality. she kept saying i better be ready for all night, and i just smiled thinking that was the standard line. she was serious…. went back and had a terrific evening, with about 5 shots in all. you should have seen her face when i pulled out a vibrator i brought to play with my dates. she really got into that!!! only part i didn’t like was kept texting between sessions and then suddenly at about 1230am said her kid was sick and she needed to go home. she wanted to see me the next day, but i never took/returned her messages. i did write her an email saying that she used one of the three most popular excuses to leave a lt date. it helped that i was really spent and needed to just sleep anyway.
i woke up at 445am and remembered yet another monger on this site saying this was prime time to pick up bar girls going home. i jumped up, got dressed and was out and about in about 3 min (lol!). i was actually a little late and should have been out about 4am. low and behold a decent looking girl peeled away from one pack walking down the street and matched my pace. i asked if she need a place to stay and she said yes without hesitation. she said she had an appointment at 730am and didn’t want to go all the way home, just to come back. i told here we’d trade favors and she just smiled. her name was berlin and she works at the vipor room on fields. she was about 5’4”, 120 lbs, large breasts (saggy), and long black hair. we sat in the room and made idle chat before i suggested hitting the shower, which was followed by a great session. we went to sleep and i woke up with her hand on my cock trying to get me hard again. we went one more time and took another 30 min snooze. when it came time to leave, she didn’t say anything, but i gave her 300 pesos, which really made her light up.
more lodging -next day i checked in at the blue nile executive inn, as they had a banner hanging out front saying rooms were 30% off from sun-thurs, and the rate came to 1,610 pesos per night. the rooms were very nice, but a little small. they had a nice room safe (not big enough for a laptop), spacious 2-3 person shower, well stocked mini bar, and on the third floor…it was considerably more quiet than mo’s.
more fun - i totally agree with a previous post, which said a lot of the girls weren’t dancing at all…they were just either standing…or slowly moving left/right with totally stoic faces. i was looking for a decent girl with looks, breasts, and a little personality and finally found what i wanted in a second story door girl at the blue nile bar across the street from the hotel. her bar fine, a lady drink, and a beer for me set me back 1,435 pesos and off we went. we shared a beer and off to the showers we went…. she also really got into the vibrator and her legs were trembling when we finished.
note: jenn (from fiesta garden), as well as a mamasan on fields told me there are cherry-girls who will bar fine and will just sit and talk to you. they will not do sex, bjs, or allow daty and just want to get paid. not saying that is wrong if that’s what you’re after, but seal the deal before you leave the club so you don’t get a big surprise.
oh well…it’s off to subic bay and then manila to complete more chapters of this monger's stay.
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Just wanted to share this experience with you guys. I have plans to be in AC in about 3 weeks. I'll be in Phi for 1 week. I wanted to take 3 days and check out Boracay. I tried a popular travel agent in town and she gave me a package with hotel and air. This is where the problems started. There are no good ways to pay her! She says to use Western Union but when I visit their site, it won't accept the address or account info she gave me. I asked the travel agent for the information again and she gives me the same info and insists others have used it to pay her. Well, good for them but it didn't work for me. Then she asked me to send her a copy of my ID and credit card. I've been a victim of Identity theft before and I will not use this option. So there you go, I want to pay her but I can't. Why is it that every 2-bit porn site has a payment page but none of the travel agents do? Using a 3rd party like Western Union or Paypal can be a hassel if the recipient doesn't know the process. Anyway, just my rant for the day. See you guys soon.
Egg
Ps. I know I'm paying more by booking from the US. But I'm only there for a week and don't want to run into any scheduling problems once I get there. Also, I want to fly out of Clark and have heard that it is difficult to procure tickets with such short notice.[/QUOTE]
You can book air tickets online with cebu pacific air. You are probably paying more by booking your hotel ahead of time. Just book first night and then go somewhere else. What kind of place do you want to stay at and what is your budget? I can recommend a few places.
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]I know I'm paying more by booking from the US. But I'm only there for a week and don't want to run into any scheduling problems once I get there. Also, I want to fly out of Clark and have heard that it is difficult to procure tickets with such short notice.[/QUOTE]
Hello, here are my suggestions for you Eggsalad:
1. Forget the WU website. Go to one of their numerous outlets and conduct your business there.
2. Check with another agent such as Beeline or Swagman.
3. Just show up and take your chances because it is very easy to get a flight out of Clark, especially during the week. Thats the beauty of traveling in the P.I. You can just show up, pay cash and be on your way in a matter of hours.
[b]To Ekspat:[/b]
Should have seen that one cumming but wouldn't you want the girls to reduce the symptoms and extend the length!? :cool:
Have a good trip!
[QUOTE=FireWalker]You can book air tickets online with cebu pacific air. You are probably paying more by booking your hotel ahead of time. Just book first night and then go somewhere else. What kind of place do you want to stay at and what is your budget? I can recommend a few places.[/QUOTE]
Fire
I'm only going to be there for 2 nights. As for budget, I'm trying to keep it under $100 USD per night. Most of the hotels recommended by the travel agents are around 100. The plane tickets are 8400 peso round trip. Am I getting ripped off? Or should I take my chances when I get there? I actually don't mind paying a few dollars more to know my plans ahead of time. That way, I can tell my girl to get ready to travel on that day.
Egg
[QUOTE=Great Expecta]Note: Jenn (from Fiesta Garden), as well as a Mamasan on Fields told me there are cherry-girls who will bar fine and will just sit and talk to you. They will not do sex, BJs, or allow DATY and just want to get paid. Not saying that is wrong if that’s what you’re after, but seal the deal BEFORE you leave the club so you don’t get a big surprise.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, many of the girls with the best bodies in Angeles (slim and hard) often turn out to be cherry girls. Still, if the girl is into you, she could be more than willing to give BBBJs and let you do DATY on her (but you gotta be careful not to break the magic seal, as that will become the most expensive barfine of your life!). If you are really lucky, you might find a girl that will do anal.
Most cherry girls require a bit of work to win them over, but once you have she could give you a great time. If you act like you are in a rush with her its likely you will receive nothing. I know a guy who barfined a girl 4 times and after some tender care the girl gave him her cherry for free.
Cherry girls are not my thing, but I have had some great times with some in the past. Some girls who entered the infamous SOB parties, having their pussies eaten out etc were cherry girls (eg. two from Lollipop that I knew of).
It appears from my research that Voodoo Bar seems to have attractive women who are pleasantly dressed. Is this still the case? A second question, if I may. Is the Swiss Chalet Hotel as good as its Internet site suggests, and is the water supply to the two 'suite' rooms (with jacuzzis) reliable, as I expect it will be? Would this hotel have any reciprocal arrangements with others to use their pools, given that it doesn't appear to have one? If not, what hotels or other places in AC have well maintained, reasonable size pools that can be used on a casual basis and what is the entrance fee, and does this cover all day use and into the early evening as well? Are there freelancers at these hotel pools? Many thanks for any info.
Voodoo bar? Is that still there? "pleasantly dressed" - what in hell are you talking about? I'm rather fond of the costumes at Emotions and Touch of Class on Permimeter. They were very short halter tops with no bra. Lot of flashing going on. I hate those ugly old platform boots they wear at DollHouse. At the nicer clubs, the costumes change every day.
Somone on this board suggested the jacuzzi water wasn't hot enought to make it enjoyable. I like the mirrors at Swiss Chalet. As far as I know, they are only in the cheaper rooms.
Pools: Wild Orchid, Orchid, Pacific Breeze in Fields area. ABC, America, Clarkton, Oasis up where the road turns into "perimeter" all have pools. Other places have smallish pools.
[QUOTE=Notanocker]It appears from my research that Voodoo Bar seems to have attractive women who are pleasantly dressed. Is this still the case? A second question, if I may. Is the Swiss Chalet Hotel as good as its Internet site suggests, and is the water supply to the two 'suite' rooms (with jacuzzis) reliable, as I expect it will be? Would this hotel have any reciprocal arrangements with others to use their pools, given that it doesn't appear to have one? If not, what hotels or other places in AC have well maintained, reasonable size pools that can be used on a casual basis and what is the entrance fee, and does this cover all day use and into the early evening as well? Are there freelancers at these hotel pools? Many thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
Deluxe room (see first two pics) didn't have mirror. Cheaper room did. It's a new hotel and very clean. Decorations look nice, but a bit gaudy. Bed has box springs. There's a really hotty working in the restaurant. What I didn't like is that you have to struggle through two sliding doors to get from outside to the staircase.
X Man
X Man,
Many thanks for your tips and terrific, high quality photos. The only question you didn't answer was: is there a cover charge for the pools if you're staying elsewhere? The girl you photographed looked classy, with a lovely smile. I hope she did LT! As for my comment about 'pleasantly dressed': beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to me a bikini and mile-high boots just looks 'silly' and not something to get one interested!
Hi All,
I have read many reports to prepare my visit to AC end April but one question remains. I plan to select one of the better hotels in AC and currently think about Wild Orchid and Angeles Beach Club Hotel. The ABC hotel is not at Fields but not far away. Both have a pool and good rooms.
Are there any specific advantages which are pro one of them. I assume bot are girl friendly.
Please let me know, Best Regards Martin
NB : I will write a report during my AC visit.
[QUOTE=X Man]Deluxe room (see first two pics) didn't have mirror. Cheaper room did. It's a new hotel and very clean. Decorations look nice, but a bit gaudy. Bed has box springs. There's a really hotty working in the restaurant. What I didn't like is that you have to struggle through two sliding doors to get from outside to the staircase.
X Man[/QUOTE]
Nice pics. Cute girl.
I have always stayed at Sunset Garden out on Perimeter Rd. Each room comes with three virgins. OK. They are all not really virgins. But, it is a nice touch. I am offering a great price on the Brooklyn Bridge to anyone who believes this sh*t! :-)
N1
Why don't you stay at both places and then you can write your own review? I've stayed at neither.
I'm not directing this at you Martinn....
I'm getting really tired of passing on info to newbies and then usually NOTHING comes back. If you get info from the members here, return the favor by taking a few minutes and writing something up. Althoough the focus of ISG is on getting laid, any supporting information is also valid. Restaurant reviews, personal stories, etc.
Failing to reciprocate here is almost as bad as not giving a lady her deserved tip. Is anyone feeling guilty yet? :-)
And while I'm in pissy mood....why send me a question by PM when you can just as easily post it on the main thread? Ummm, Swiss Chalet 1600 for cheaper rooms, 1700 for the deluxe to the best of my recollection. Good value.
Now, maybe I should have my morning cup of coffee before I post again....
X Man
[QUOTE=Martinnl]Hi All,
I have read many reports to prepare my visit to AC end April but one question remains. I plan to select one of the better hotels in AC and currently think about Wild Orchid and Angeles Beach Club Hotel. The ABC hotel is not at Fields but not far away. Both have a pool and good rooms.
Are there any specific advantages which are pro one of them. I assume bot are girl friendly.
Please let me know, Best Regards Martin
NB : I will write a report during my AC visit.[/QUOTE]
PB hotel is just off of Santos. (is it Vian St.?). It's new, nice pool, nice place. Restaurant by the pool, but I didn't think the food was so good. I paid about $50 for the cheapest room. They tried to charge me an extra day, but I'm pretty sure it was an honest mistake.
The rooms are quiet despite new construction across the street (see pic 86). Across the street is a structure which I suspect is a copy of the current Pac Breeze. Same owners as Central Park Hotel.
THe model in the photos is from Stinger's and was a complete dud.
X Man
I don't know if there is a cover charge, but my advice is be discreet (don't walk into the lobby with a swimsuit in one hand and tanning lotion in the other) and don't ask. Just order something from the restaurant (usually poolside), be nice to the staff, then jump in. But if a pool is important, America has rooms for about 2000. The good (or bad) thing about the America pool is that it is in a central courtyard so gets shade from the building at certain times. Good if you or your honey don't want to get too much sun.
If you're at Pacific Breeze, I suspect you could say you are from Central Park (same mgmt and I presume CP people can use the pool). Same thing for the two Orchid hotels.
The girl with the lovely smile was a lot of fun. When I met her she was busy licking a chocolate flavored condom. The other dancers all had a lick too. Then they blew it up and batted it around the bar. BTW, she had a pussy ring. Nice to look at, but I didn't really care for licking it. I don't like finding cold, hard metal while licking soft pussy. Kind of like finding alum foil in your chewing gum.
The best outfit I ever saw on a girl....she was a cherry girl her first night at Silver Dollar (in Cebu). She was barefoot, wearing white cotton panties and a simple white bra -- in other words, she just stripped to her underwear for the dance. I couldn't take my eyes off of her. Of course the next night they had her in the standard t-back just like everyone else. Boring.
X Man
[QUOTE=Notanocker]X Man,
Many thanks for your tips and terrific, high quality photos. The only question you didn't answer was: is there a cover charge for the pools if you're staying elsewhere? The girl you photographed looked classy, with a lovely smile. I hope she did LT! As for my comment about 'pleasantly dressed': beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to me a bikini and mile-high boots just looks 'silly' and not something to get one interested![/QUOTE]
Well Martini I highly reccomend the Wild Orchid on santos. I have stayed there in February and will be staying there again next month May 6 thru the 23. Why do I like Wild Orchid? Its definately one of the better Hotels. Rooms are clean, safe in room, the pool the girls love and the restuarant is pretty good as well. But the best part is that you are only 50 yards away from all the action. Kokomos is also near as well. This may be hard to beleave but they really take care of there guest. 2 times I left $ in my pocket and sent it out for laundry and both times got a call from front desk informing me of they found $ in my pants, Yes this is the Philippines imagine that! The staff is very courtesy and hmmm, if only the staff at front desk was available! If you are going to be there when I am there maybe we could meet for a drink and talk shop.
Good luck
[QUOTE=X Man]I don't know if there is a cover charge, but my advice is be discreet (don't walk into the lobby with a swimsuit in one hand and tanning lotion in the other) and don't ask. Just order something from the restaurant (usually poolside), be nice to the staff, then jump in. But if a pool is important, America has rooms for about 2000. The good (or bad) thing about the America pool is that it is in a central courtyard so gets shade from the building at certain times. Good if you or your honey don't want to get too much sun.
If you're at Pacific Breeze, I suspect you could say you are from Central Park (same mgmt and I presume CP people can use the pool). Same thing for the two Orchid hotels.
The girl with the lovely smile was a lot of fun. When I met her she was busy licking a chocolate flavored condom. The other dancers all had a lick too. Then they blew it up and batted it around the bar. BTW, she had a pussy ring. Nice to look at, but I didn't really care for licking it. I don't like finding cold, hard metal while licking soft pussy. Kind of like finding alum foil in your chewing gum.
The best outfit I ever saw on a girl....she was a cherry girl her first night at Silver Dollar (in Cebu). She was barefoot, wearing white cotton panties and a simple white bra -- in other words, she just stripped to her underwear for the dance. I couldn't take my eyes off of her. Of course the next night they had her in the standard t-back just like everyone else. Boring.
X Man[/QUOTE]To X man,
I stay at central hotel 2 month ago and I was giving a card for pacific breeze to use their pool area, rate is about 35 usd a bit cheaper than the new hotel is own by same company and they are buliding a new central hotel down the st.
Angeles city is changing new mall and new development is being bulid and price on real estate is going up fast, friend of mine purchase a condo there 10 yr ago is up 300 %.
Fast Eddie 48
Great info "de candy for" something....or whatever your handle is.
So what did you pay for your Wild experinece????
Laundry: to be honest I do it the cheap way and hike my bag of clothes to a shop, which usually charges 35 pesos for a bag of 1 kilo. Hotel will charge you that much for one piece of clothes.
The shop I use is run by a very interesting lady. She remembers my name and knows what I do in AC. She asks, "playin with the girls"? I answer, "of course, what else?". She repiies, "I know all about that, I've done it". I guess she's worked in the bars somehow, but is long past her prime. I love the way she bullshits me. "yes sir, only 32 dollars". "Dollars sir, not pesos".
They usually take a day, but if you offer a 10 peso tip, they'll do it quicker.
X Man
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well Martini I highly reccomend the Wild Orchid on santos. I have stayed there in February and will be staying there again next month May 6 thru the 23. Why do I like Wild Orchid? Its definately one of the better Hotels. Rooms are clean, safe in room, the pool the girls love and the restuarant is pretty good as well. But the best part is that you are only 50 yards away from all the action. Kokomos is also near as well. This may be hard to beleave but they really take care of there guest. 2 times I left $ in my pocket and sent it out for laundry and both times got a call from front desk informing me of they found $ in my pants, Yes this is the Philippines imagine that! The staff is very courtesy and hmmm, if only the staff at front desk was available! If you are going to be there when I am there maybe we could meet for a drink and talk shop.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
Anybody have been to L Tinio's hotel, and in particular to the suite with big jakuzzi? is it value for money?
Thanks
I will have to say to X man I always enjoyed your pics. My Camera is a must this next trip. I went to Champayne which I hooked up with 2 girls for several days. Still write back in forth with them. They were well worth the several days I spent with them. But like the rest of you they get stale after a while and a new breed must be sought. Met one at Classroom which If let myself could fall inlove with. Any of us could do that if we don't use the head on our shoulders. Also hit st at Illusions as well. Price at Champayne P 1200 bf at Classroom P 1200. Illusions st was P 800. I tip well if service was great at P 1000. Most say this is to much but itt was my first trip. Live and learn as they say. My May trip will be a little more educated. I know Illusions has an upstairs short time place. Can anyone tell me what places have onsite st rooms? Thanks
[QUOTE=Joe Perez]Anybody have been to L Tinio's hotel, and in particular to the suite with big jakuzzi? is it value for money?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I doubt you'll have enough hot water to make that jacuzzi much fun.
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Fire
I'm only going to be there for 2 nights. As for budget, I'm trying to keep it under $100 USD per night. Most of the hotels recommended by the travel agents are around 100. The plane tickets are 8400 peso round trip. Am I getting ripped off? Or should I take my chances when I get there? I actually don't mind paying a few dollars more to know my plans ahead of time. That way, I can tell my girl to get ready to travel on that day.
Egg[/QUOTE]
Plane tickets sound a little high, but I don't know your dates/time of travel. Make sure you are flying into Cacticlan, go to Asian Spirit or Sea Air websites directly and check flight/pricing.
If you are staying only 2 nights, I can see you don't want to mess around.
Here is my take on the boracay resort pricing: I have stayed at some really expensive resorts before here in the US (Boca Raton Hotel & Club, Breakers, etc.) and what really disappoints me is to stay at a place that doesn't live up to what I am paying for.
Do not try to impress the girl. It actually works against you. Keep it simple. YOU are the star, not the hotel room.
Stay at a $30-40 a night place and you'll probably have a better time (Dave's Strawhat Inn or Cocomangas are my choices). It fits the vibe of the beach life more and you won't be disappointed that you paid $100 a night for crap.
Don't stay directly on Beach (unless you stay at Friday's, but again too expensive and too segregated from Boracay), you are always a pretty short walk away.
[QUOTE=Martinnl]Hi All,
I have read many reports to prepare my visit to AC end April but one question remains. I plan to select one of the better hotels in AC and currently think about Wild Orchid and Angeles Beach Club Hotel. The ABC hotel is not at Fields but not far away. Both have a pool and good rooms.
Are there any specific advantages which are pro one of them. I assume bot are girl friendly.
Please let me know, Best Regards Martin
NB : I will write a report during my AC visit.[/QUOTE]
Martinni,
Stay at Wild Orchid. There will be more people there to watch out for you.
I can see that you are well equipped to single handedly spoil the market when you come. Have you made up a budget for how much you will be overtipping on the trip?
[QUOTE=Correspondent]Unfortunately, many of the girls with the best bodies in Angeles (slim and hard) often turn out to be cherry girls. Still, if the girl is into you, she could be more than willing to give BBBJs and let you do DATY on her (but you gotta be careful not to break the magic seal, as that will become the most expensive barfine of your life!). If you are really lucky, you might find a girl that will do anal.
Most cherry girls require a bit of work to win them over, but once you have she could give you a great time. If you act like you are in a rush with her its likely you will receive nothing. I know a guy who barfined a girl 4 times and after some tender care the girl gave him her cherry for free.
Cherry girls are not my thing, but I have had some great times with some in the past. Some girls who entered the infamous SOB parties, having their pussies eaten out etc were cherry girls (eg. two from Lollipop that I knew of).[/QUOTE]
I disagree that the cherry girls have the best bodies. Most of them have a bit of baby fat. I think the best bodies are on the girls with some "work ethic". They dance more, take care of themselves more by not eating junk all the time. Most of the cherry girls I know there are a bit lazy.
Thanks Firewalker,
Royal Orchid it will be if room available. I only stay a few days and be assured I will not overtip and spoil the market. By reading the forum I am well informed about going rates and tips will be limited based on performance.
More after the visit ( promise ).
Regards, Martin
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Martinni,
Stay at Wild Orchid. There will be more people there to watch out for you.
I can see that you are well equipped to single handedly spoil the market when you come. Have you made up a budget for how much you will be overtipping on the trip?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Martinni,
Stay at Wild Orchid. There will be more people there to watch out for you.
I can see that you are well equipped to single handedly spoil the market when you come. Have you made up a budget for how much you will be overtipping on the trip?[/QUOTE]LOL. Good post. Actually though I think its the Koreans who do the most overtipping damage and are ruining the market. Its a status thing with them. A girl I know at the Executive Club told me she often gets P5, 000 tips or more from Koreans. Whats funny is there is no tipping in Korea. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]LOL. Good post. Actually though I think its the Koreans who do the most overtipping damage and are ruining the market. Its a status thing with them. A girl I know at the Executive Club told me she often gets P5,000 tips or more from Koreans. Whats funny is there is no tipping in Korea. Go figure.[/QUOTE]You are right about that, but I don't think the Koreans are targeted much by criminal element.
I like to appear one or two notches above a Cheap Charlie, so as not to draw attention to myself.
I know this sounds rediculous but do they have massage places in angeles with fish bowl to choose. Also how about Kasa? Anyone know of any in Angeles?
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]None that I know of. Best experience with Massage Girl in AC is to have them do out call. On the other hand AC is one giant fishbowl. Husky[/QUOTE]To Husky,
There are no fish bowl in AC and the massage place there suck girl are old and service is bad , the bar is the way to go if you want fish bowl go to Makati or Manila , someone told me there is a fishbowl in subic bay can anyone confirm.
Fast eddie 48
angeles city does have "fishbowls" (massage & etc.). but they are god awful places! you can not even compare them to what you see in thailand. they are dirty dark rooms where you look through a peep hole to see something equally aged & unglamorous. but they are there in ac. just ask a trike driver to take you.
[QUOTE=Notanocker]It appears from my research that Voodoo Bar seems to have attractive women who are pleasantly dressed. Is this still the case? A second question, if I may. Is the Swiss Chalet Hotel as good as its Internet site suggests, and is the water supply to the two 'suite' rooms (with jacuzzis) reliable, as I expect it will be? Would this hotel have any reciprocal arrangements with others to use their pools, given that it doesn't appear to have one? If not, what hotels or other places in AC have well maintained, reasonable size pools that can be used on a casual basis and what is the entrance fee, and does this cover all day use and into the early evening as well? Are there freelancers at these hotel pools? Many thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Voodoo is long gone and has been replaced by a sports bar. Yes it was a great little bar but it's only a memory now. There is a floating bar in Subic called Voodoo, although it is a poor imitation of the Blue Rock floating bar.
The Swiss Chalet is a good hotel and priced cheaply for its central location, but it is almost always fully booked weeks in advance. Most people book months ahead to secure a room there.
Wild Orchid has one of the best pools but the hotel is very expensive. ABC Hotel has a small pool but I think it has closed or is on the verge of closing at it has been running at a loss since it opened (and at over 5000P a night with all taxes and surcharges thrown in its no wonder). Orchid Inn has a pool that you can use if not staying there, but they told me 300P per person to swim there. If you were eating at their restaurant and running a large tab then they might let you swim for free (but don't expect it as the owners want to get as much as they can from you). Pacific Breeze has a great pool and the rooms are about $50, but like Central Park, you better book well in advance to guarantee a room. Oasis Hotel has a big pool and is a relatively quiet, secure location but it is a long way from the action down Perimeter road. Trikes will cost P70 each way from there. Other pools exist which rate in levels of cleanliness such as and Sunset (looks clean), America Hotel (filthy) and Villa Modesto (nuclear tailings waste). Central Park technically has a pool but its more like an oversized bathtub that is fun to knock your mates into when youre plastered late at night returning from a barhop (but not if he is carrying a phone in his pocket!).
In terms of freelancers hanging next to any of these pools, this doesn't happen as any bargirls need to be staying there or are friends with someone who is. Some guys occassionally barfine large groups of girls for a pool party and if you were patient enough you might score one of them after he has taken a few back to his room - but don't hold your breath!
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I will be visiting in may (13-18). I hope to share some down time with some fellow westerners. Let me know if you will be in the area, as I am a first timer and could use some assistance with the scene.
A couple questions. Regarding money. Trying to figure how much to bring. Is it safe to use credit card at the hotel for the room? I am staying at the pacific breeze. Should I exchange money or do many of the places take US Dollars?
Thanks
I agree with the Editor that Correspondent's report was excellent: lots of facts. Thank you! Correspondent, do you believe that the jacuzzi rooms at the Swiss Chalet (caleld 'suites') are worth the additional P1000/night? If Voodoo has closed, what bar(s) in your opinion have the best dressed women (hopefully some good lookers too?)
Many thanks.
Stayed there twice in a suite. The stairs are a *****, but absolutley the best deal for your money in AC.
Stay away from Chicago Park, there van service treated me like a leper.
Will be in AC this weekend, anyone want to have a beer pm me.
[QUOTE=Notanocker]I agree with the Editor that Correspondent's report was excellent: lots of facts. Thank you! Correspondent, do you believe that the jacuzzi rooms at the Swiss Chalet (caleld 'suites') are worth the additional P1000/night? If Voodoo has closed, what bar(s) in your opinion have the best dressed women (hopefully some good lookers too?)
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69] A couple questions. Regarding money. Trying to figure how much to bring. Is it safe to use credit card at the hotel for the room? I am staying at the pacific breeze. Should I exchange money or do many of the places take US Dollars? [/QUOTE]
Jimbo, I think you are fine using a credit card at Pacific Breeze. But realize that they will charge you an added percentage for using a credit card like Mastercard or Visa. It will be like 3-5% of your bill. Plus, your credit card might charge you a conversion fee on top of that. I'm sure if you read through the many posts you'll find the topics in regards to exchanging money, ATM's and credit cards. I normally do ATM's mostly and then on occasion exchanging US Dollars. I rarely rarely use credit cards at hotels and never have used them at stores or restaurants. The added on percentage is pretty typical of most businesses in Asia in regards to credit cards. I highly recommend you read and read to find out more.
Someone told me that the rooms in Swiss Chalet are pretty noisy, especially during daytime. Is this true?
(Just wondering why the prices are that low... Wanted to stay at 950 condotel, but the swiss chalet seems to be even cheaper)
[QUOTE=Senser]Someone told me that the rooms in Swiss Chalet are pretty noisy, especially during daytime. Is this true?[/QUOTE]
Most likely, opposite is a huge construction site.
New appartement building or so.
Cheers!
I stayed in two different "front" rooms (facing the basketball court) at SC and had no noise problems. In between Swiss Chalet (back side) and Pacific Breeze is a large construction site, so that might affect the back rooms of SC. My PB room faced the construction site, but only occasionally did I hear noise. Bigger problem is opening the curtains and having the construction guys looking into the room.
Ekspat says "opposite", but that would be opposite the back side. Damn, that sounds sexual, but I'm only writing about hotels.....
Anyway, it always makes sense to look at a room before you put your money down. Open the curtains and see what's out there. The biggest noise problems I've had in all my hotel experiences has been noisy neighbors. At least you can expect that most AC hotels won't have children bouncing around.
GUYS, if the head board on your bed is banging the wall as you bang your girl, there is an easy solution. Get out of bed, pull the bed away from the wall, and continue. DUH?
On the other hand, if your lady is a screamer/shouter/loud moaner....that's okay -- please keep up the good work. It inspires the ones who tend to be quiet. I love to sarcastically ask my date, "what's that?". They giggle and say, "I don't know".
I say, "She sounds like she's in trouble, should I go help her?"
She, "Go ahead."
I, "No, I'd rather stay here with you."
From there, if you aren't already inside, check for moisture, insert.
X Man
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Most likely, opposite is a huge construction site.
New appartement building or so.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Hey,
I will be in Angeles on May 4rd.
Anyone want to chat at Kokomos with me or to catch me up with the going ons?
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]In terms of freelancers hanging next to any of these pools, this doesn't happen as any bargirls need to be staying there or are friends with someone who is. Some guys occassionally barfine large groups of girls for a pool party and if you were patient enough you might score one of them after he has taken a few back to his room - but don't hold your breath!
Good Report, Although I must say on quiet days that Wild Orchid does allow some Santos St Girls some R&R unescorted.[/QUOTE]The Wild Orchid allows Santos St girls?? Ok I will have to ask the owner about this because it's news to me. Perhaps if a girl is well known to management and is friends with someone working there then it's possible she might be allowed to swim there. This would hardly classify as 'freelancers' which is what the original poster was asking about and I highly doubt that these girls would be permitted to solicit business from hotel guests while they are enjoying their 'R&R' as you put it.
Also, I would be interested to know when the Wild Orchid had its last "quiet day" as it always operates at very high occupancy rates and the months of October through March are the busiest period of tourism for AC.
[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]I will be visiting in may (13-18). I hope to share some down time with some fellow westerners. Let me know if you will be in the area, as I am a first timer and could use some assistance with the scene.
A couple questions. Regarding money. Trying to figure how much to bring. Is it safe to use credit card at the hotel for the room? I am staying at the pacific breeze. Should I exchange money or do many of the places take US Dollars?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Pacific Breeze and Central Park list their prices in $US so you could bring at least enough cash to cover the price of your room (and you won't lose out if the Peso appreciates while you are there). I never use credit cards in AC and only use an ATM on rare occasions. By all means, use an ATM if you are nervous about carrying cash, but I always keep my cash very secure whilst I'm travelling and have never had any problems over many years living in Asia. If you get robbed at gunpoint, you will lose everything anyway (which is extremely unlikely if you use safer options for transport).
Regarding how much to bring, if your room is $48 then you should have at least $100US per day for spending money. Of course you might spend more or less than that, but I think you can have a lot of fun for $100 in AC (and if you want to spend much more than that, you might prefer to stay in Manila and get a higher class of bargirl/KTV girl). You will need Peso's for day-to-day spending for most purchases and there are many places you can use to do that. The hotels give the worst rates and Normas money changer is one of the best. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Correspondent]I always keep my cash very secure whilst I'm travelling [/QUOTE]
Care to share your "stashing" methods? I am planning a trip and want to cover all the logistical aspects of a trip to AC.
Mugroso
I would appreciate the info....
TIA
[QUOTE=Concarne]I would appreciate the info.
TIA[/QUOTE]It's at the corner of Teodoro and Oak street. Walk down Fields to Mr. Frosty and go down the street away from the base and it's on the left-hand side.
I just use the changer by JJ's because the rates are practically the same. Nowadays I send a bar-boy or a waitress to do it for me, from my home bar of course. I would not do it in a place I don't trust.
Here is a link to Wayne's AC Map, he finally updated the small maps but the full view maps are out of date. All the maps are still good for reference though.
[url]http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f4[/url]
"if your room is $48 then you should have at least $100US per day for spending money." Whoa! That's spending cash for Miami, Paris & Perth!
May i request submissions on daily expenses in Angeles specifically-moto/trike, barfine, bar beer, girl beer, BJ, ST, LT and tipping? (Better dining costs vary, and i can find that info in a guidebook.) And am i right: it seems some places barfines include ST/FT?
I hear many understandable complaints about newbies spending too much-
well, help keep it down right now!
I only ask this as I've been reading the threads for my own estimates, and I can't find recent specifics.
Thanks guys!
Gentlemen
I will be in AC from April 16 to the 23. Anyone wanna get together and chat, let me know...
Egg
[quote=mugroso]care to share your "stashing" methods? i am planning a trip and want to cover all the logistical aspects of a trip to ac.[/quote]
if you must carry large amounts of currency, jock it or sock it, i always say. try to bring crisp clean large denomination bills. never keep your stash in your wallet or fannypack, those are for pocket money. make good use of the hotel safety deposit box or a room safe. most of the moneychangers have competitive rates.
[quote=man in japan]nowadays i send a bar-boy or a waitress to do it for me, from my home bar of course. i would not do it in a place i don't trust.[/quote]
does not sound like a smart thing to do. putting your trust in a bar employee is fine but shit does happen. i guess your too busy having fun to worry about such things.:cool:
[b]to mountain peep:[/b]
one hundred dollars per day is a good reference point as correspondent mentions. you do not have to spend $48 on accommodations as there are plenty of places for less than $30. it really all depends on what kind of party animal you are. but better to bring too much money than not enough.
[quote=mountain peep]"if your room is $48 then you should have at least $100us per day for spending money." whoa! that's spending cash for miami, paris & perth! [/quote]
you won't even get a room for 100$ in paris. at least not a decent one.
with 100$ (75euro) paris is really no fun at all.
if room costs of 48$ in ac are included in 100$, then with remaining 52$ it's sort of tight budget. nearly 2,500ps a day.
st in afternoon and later bf (one only), some beer and 1-2 ladydrinks and it's gone. no lunch and dinner yet.
with 100$ cash a day it will be a nice party. no doubt.
Was in AC a couple of weeks back.
I found that ATMs with + network did not work. The ATM for these were out of action at the Clarkton Mall and in the banks close to Fields. Probably temporary. For the two weeks I was there. Or might have been my card, but beware. The Cirrus network was ok. So take a couple of ATM cards one for each network. The money changers gave good rates. So take as much cash stashed on you as you can feel safe with and keep it in the room safe. I only used credit card for the hotel.
My budget ran to:
350p for breakfast and Dinner. (Aussie or American Breakfasts at Mo's and a big evening meal at Swiss Chalet). Including tips and a drink at dinner. The breakfast was so huge that I only needed a San Miguel Sandwich for lunch.
Beers were about 80-95 P at most bars in Fields.
Lady Drinks, budget about 140.
Most barfines were around 1200 P
Therefore to barfine a gel, give her a meal, a tip of up to 300 P and a couple of lady drinks - say 2100 P....not a bad deal for an all-nighter. :)
Most of the bars have fifteen to twenty ladies in bikinis on a raised stage, in most bars, they sort of shuffle around. Avoid the immediate press to get you to buy a drink, pick out one you like, and give her a look. If she is interested, you will know. If not, don't push it, because you will just spend $ on a drink and she will tell you she is on her period. So do wait for the return eye contact before you call her up for a lady drink.
Some of the ladies will even then not go with you. First night. I found twice though, that if I was gracious about it, and came around the next night, her period had stopped. LOL! (I figure it is something of a little test they gave me).
I tried to learn a few tagalog words on the plane over from a Lonely Planet book. I think it was worth while.
First of all, I looked like a newb. Or at least they picked me for one. In those bars that I did not use any of my few tagalog words, they really hounded me for lady drinks. But when I entered the bar, used a couple of words of Tagalog to the waitress when she asked if I wanted a drink, the harassers let me alone.
Some bars like Roadhouse and Agasaya (Sp? ) had choreographed shows where the girls did more than just shuffle. They actually danced. (In Agasaya, though there were shufflers, dancers and models who just pranced). Agasaya also seemed to have a Korean bias. Although I had no problem and did bf one lady there. She was the most expensive (since there is a slight premium for dancers) and the one who left earliest (after three hours).
I stayed in Fields and so did not have to worry about trike fares or jeepneys. It was also walkable to the perimeter bars and to the Mall. (Tho I am not sure how safe the walk to the perimeter bars would be at night).
Perimeter bars were all cheaper than the above. But a little less classy. I think the girls overall were slightly less quality, BUT you would never have a problem in finding your '10', so give them both a try.
I also found it profitable to alternate my beers with a non alco drink. It meant that I did not end up with beer goggles on and was able to check out many more bars before I succumbed to temptation. In all cases I ended up with a 10 for the night because I was sober enough to avoid the 8-9s who would have snagged me had I had a couple more beers. Finally, being more or less sober, I was able to judge the body language and pick out those that looked like they would give gfe.
(Given that I am over fifty, balding and overweight a little, you can imagine how good a twenty year old gfe 10 feels). ) It must have been my 'Peso'nality.
Also from a practical point of view, there are some 7/11 stores and pharmacies. So you do not need to worry about packing much. If you forget anything you will be able to buy it there. Laundry was about 25-30p per piece in the hotel, and about 35p per load if you bundled it up and took it to one of the nearby laundries.
I think next time, what I might do is repeat the process above, but when I have narrowed down the best of the '10' gfe ladies, perhaps take them for a week to somewhere else, and see if I can get a 'hme' (Honey Moon Experience). Without the marriage of course. ; )
One final thing that worked for me. Albeit by chance.
I had barfined a lady from Rhapsody. Looked a little spanish rather than typical pinay. She treated me very well over several nights, I did tip her 300p each time for sterling service. However as I was leaving, I thought to spend some $ on her. So after the barfine, instead of the usual, off to the hotel for a quickie before taking her to dinner, I went with her to one of the little dress shops, bought her a nice dress, some shoes and some fake sunglasses. She was a 10 before, in body and attitude, but with the nice togs she looked $1million. As we were walking back to the hotel, guys were twisting their necks, and you could see she felt like a $1million. I tell you, I got paid back for that dress big time in the hotel. I was so so sore and exhausted on the plane next day. I never thought I physically could do it ever again.
Overall, I had a blast for 3500P per day plus hotel cost.
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[quote=mountain peep]"if your room is $48 then you should have at least $100us per day for spending money." whoa! that's spending cash for miami, paris & perth!
may i request submissions on daily expenses in angeles specifically-moto/trike, barfine, bar beer, girl beer, bj, st, lt and tipping? (better dining costs vary, and i can find that info in a guidebook.) and am i right: it seems some places barfines include st/ft?
i hear many understandable complaints about newbies spending too much-
well, help keep it down right now![/quote]$100us includes the girls, naturally. you would be hard pressed to find a st girl who would go with you for $100 in paris, leaving you with nothing left. $100 used to get a lot more, but the peso is so damn strong, its only p48/$ and has been for quite some time now.
barfines are between p1000 and p1300. all the fields ave bars are 1200-1300. lds are around 150 for f.av, beers are p85. this adds up quickly and a bellring is $100us+ (and ive seen some guys ring a bell several times in one night). girls seem to expect a tip for a good all-night service, but of course that's up to you. dont listen to anyone tell you that there is a norm for tipping. newbies often tip way too much if they liked a girl eg. a p1000 tip. this would be an example of complaints you have heard of.
only a couple of bars on perimeter offer st barfines and they are around p700. hardly worth it as you can take a girl lt for p1000. if you are in a hurry, have two rounds and then send the girl on her way. you get what you want and the girl will be happy to have the rest of the night free (unless she was madly in love with you, haha!).
yes you can spend a lot on dinner, there are several decent restaurants on fields and a few past checkpoint. of course there are many more than in these two locations but they aren't walking distance. trikes fleece the crap out of tourists (and even bargirls). p50 for any small distance and p70 for longer rides. if the trike driver thinks he can get more, then he will ask for more. try not to get angry as it will also end in a bad result for you. the best thing to do is hand him the money (which you know is correct) say thankyou, then walk away.
Hey Dude,
Thanks for the great post. The information was very helpful for someone who hopes to visit the city.
Have you heard much of the hotel Swiss Chalet? How are they with guests?
Hi Ronin,
Did not stay at the hotel Swiss Chalet, but did eat in their restaurant. So looks ok from the ground floor at least., and the photos of the rooms looked ok.
I have tried to get in there in the past, but it has always been booked out. I would be stunned if there was any problem with girls in the room (although you should ask them if you planned to have more than one or two at a time).
It is quite central to the Fields action, so location wise you would have no problem as long as you can get in.
Hotel Royal Amsterdam might be an alternative if you cannot get Swiss Chalet.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]
I tried to learn a few tagalog words on the plane over from a Lonely Planet book. I think it was worth while.[/QUOTE]
Why not, it is indeed an interesting experience, but please, don't overdo it, folks! When I practiced my (very poor) Tagalog at Nifty's two weeks ago, my favorite girl all of a sudden did not talk to me in English anymore! Gentlemen, you have been warned! :)
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
Hesekiels
Been here for four days. Staying at the original Orchid Inn. Standard room is 32$ and a real dump. First room the a/con did not work. However, there was very little hassle and they switched me to a dump of equal value. What can you expect for $32.
The bars are pretty much as I left them in August of 2006. The big glitzy places vs. the smaller cozier bars. Its up to you. I found it interesting that all places were crowded. Maybe it was because I arrived on a Friday.
Bad experience at Insomnia. I have a tendency to resist initial solicitations to buy a drink and just tell them I want to look around. If I don't, I will be drunk in about 1 hour. Love to shop. On my way out of Insomnia the door girl became very belligerent because I did not buy a drink. I found this odd because in most, if not all of the bars, there is no problem with the staff. Indeed, they usually joke about it. Made it up to her the next night, brought my bar-fine there and we both slid down the pole.
Went to Santos Street, now a mere shadow of days gone by. It seems to be getting smaller and smaller. Last year my nephew would not venture down, I always enjoy the visit. Reminds me of my navy days. As before, Black Pearl was the best place. They did some considerable remodelling with the floors now mopped the new pictures on the three walls.
Took a girl my friend had on our last visit, her name is Chanda. A slim good looking gal with nothing less than a great personality. If you want the type of bj you see in porn movies you must visit this gal. Her combination of looks, personality, and skill made me a repeat customer. I also found it interesting she has been working there for five years. Quite a long time for that line of work.
Also made a trip to the perimeter road bars to kill one afternoon. Most bars there open around 2pm. Arrived a little early and went to Garfields for a beer. Its not that the staff was unfriendly, it is just the fact this is a stone cold local bar. After a few minutes I notice everyone else was on a first name basis. As for me, no waitresses went out of their way to continue a conversation. Again, they were not rude, just made no effort at return chat.
Time to make my last rounds before heading back to the U S. Good by.
RTFF
Early April there was a review of SC.
Hope that helps you, DUDE.
X Man
[QUOTE=Ronin63]Hey Dude,
Thanks for the great post. The information was very helpful for someone who hopes to visit the city.
Have you heard much of the hotel Swiss Chalet? How are they with guests?[/QUOTE]
In response to Rubberymans post. You state that the barfines are 1200 p, which seems very steep when compared to Thailand. What would you pay the girl in addition upon completion of the deed ?
[QUOTE=Billpsu]
Also made a trip to the perimeter road bars to kill one afternoon. Most bars there open around 2pm. [/QUOTE]
I did exactly the same during the past weeks and had always an excellent time in Perimeter bars! Much more fun with the girls than in Fields!
Usually I barfined one cuty already at 4pm and went straight to my hotel room for round one. At 8pm a little snack at Mo's place and some barhopping without the girl ("My dear, go alone, I would like to watch TV instead! And I'm not hungry either, but maybe later you can bring me one Siopao from 7/11?"). At 11pm round two, some rest until 8am, followed by round three.
BTW, all girls from Perimeter road performed much better than their sisters in Fields! IMHO, of course! Somebody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hello Gentlemen
My laptop is acting weird so you might be seeing this twice...
I'm flying from AC to BKK via Macau using Tiger air and Air Asia. I have 90 minutes to transit in Macau. Has anyone done this before? Is that enough time?
Egg
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]I'm flying from AC to BKK via Macau using Tiger air and Air Asia. I have 90 minutes to transit in Macau. Has anyone done this before? Is that enough time?[/QUOTE]
Greetings Egg,
You should have no problems with your connecting flight since the airport is small and compact. My last time through in Dec. '06, I had to wait about 30 minutes to clear immigration but that was because several flights landed at the same time and it was my destination. I'm not sure whether you will have to clear immigration but you should be fine.
[b]To Zdavolos:[/b]
On the contrary, barfines in Thailand are almost double than they are in AC. Check it: [url]www.xe.com/ucc/[/url]
Tipping should be 20% for good service.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Greetings Egg,
You should have no problems with your connecting flight since the airport is small and compact. [/QUOTE]
Mattrick
Thank you for the info. I will have to check a suitcase. That means I'll need to claim it and re-check it for Air Asia. Do you still think I'll have enough time? Do I need to go thru immigration to do this?
Egg
Zdavelos,
To clarify your question, in The Phillipines the barfine is inclusive of the service and just a tip is expected whereas in Thailand, the barfine simply simply releases the girl with further negotiations for services.
I have been to AC twice now and will be back soon. I have never tipped a girl in the morning and never had a problem with repeats.
One girl asked me one morning if she can borrow 500p to pay her rent that day. I told her she can have the 500p, she told me if she not see me that night she would return the 500p to the hotel. So that night while I was in bed with another girl she kindly returned and left the 500p at the hotel front desk as promised.
So lets think about this, out of the 1200p. The bar get 600-700p and she gets 500-600p. If we forget about the money the bar gets and ladies drinks, she was pretty much free. As the money she would have got from my barfine, she collected from the bar and returned to me that night.
Bob.
Just arrived in Manila and made a short walk down from my Hotel and saw Jooles already. Wasn't in, guess it's too early and should come back later. Thanks guys for the info.
Though, one questions I still have. I was a few years before already in Manila and we were there in two locations I remember. One was a large gogo bar with very pretty girls inside not for from a bigger street. Don't remember the name, but it was not in the Burgos area. The other location was like a big hall with many small gogo bars inside. Do somebody know about that places? I guess the description is too vague, but who knows.
[QUOTE=Goodfeller]Zdavelos,
To clarify your question, in The Phillipines the barfine is inclusive of the service and just a tip is expected whereas in Thailand, the barfine simply simply releases the girl with further negotiations for services.[/QUOTE]
only in angeles. everywhere else is the same as thailand.
[QUOTE=DG69]The other location was like a big hall with many small gogo bars inside. Do somebody know about that places? I guess the description is too vague, but who knows.[/QUOTE]
think you are referring to Edsa. just jump in a cab and ask for the intl bar complex.
Arrived in AC last night. Took the Rabbit bus from the Santa Cruz station. It's funny, cost me $135p from Cherry Blossoms to Santa Cruz (Driver wanted 20 pesos on top of that, I just laughed at him), and then 110 pesos for the bus.
A nice ride, comfortable with nicely working AC. I got off at Dau, and took a trike to the Central Park Hotel. Nice hotel, friendly folks.
Went out and ate at Mo's, drank a little in Typhoon. Was looking for the BJ bars. I was told it was Black Pearl, so checked those out. Went to One Tuk which had the most girls. Prices were 600, upstairs or back in your room, so I took Janet, who the other girls gave a good BJ. She's a chinese looking 24 yo from Cebu.
Had a decent attitude. DFK, B chest, a bit chubby, but good otherwise. Her BJ skills are okay, but nothing out of the ordinary. She was pretty responsive to DATY. I ended up throwing a fuck into her, which was okay for all involved.
She wanted to stay and watch the tv for a bit, and asked if it was okay to leave after a couple of hours.
Looks 4 - service - 6. But for the price, I couldn't complain.
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Thank you for the info. I will have to check a suitcase. That means I'll need to claim it and re-check it for Air Asia. Do you still think I'll have enough time? Do I need to go thru immigration to do this?[/QUOTE]
Yes I believe that all passengers go through immigration as soon as you deplane. You should be fine since there are only about a dozen gates at that airport. Grab your suitcase and head upstairs to check in for your flight. To give yourself more time, sit at either the front or rear of your Tiger flight, (they usually open both front and rear doors when you deplane) to get a good place in line.
Since I've never been to BKK, I might try your stunt sometime. How much was your plane ticket from MFM to BKK?
To keep his strength, length & stamina a monger has to eat something: Where do you guys eat? What are your favorite restaurants?
I have a friend that is living in Angeles City. I am in Colombia. I want to send my friend a book. I can order it from amazon.com to be delivered anywhere in the USA. Is there anyone going to Angeles in the next month or so that would be willing to help out a couple of old time mongers?
I've eaten at a few places in AC so far. Margarita Station, Mo's, Swiss Chalet, and the big sub place on Fields. Nothing really outstanding as of yet. I've picked different items at each place, so it's hard to make a real comparison. The tastiest was the Macaroni dish at Mo's so far.
Nothing really disappointing, but often the food doesn't get served warm enough. The Philly steak sandwich at the sub place was only room temperature in the middle of the sandwich.
I also ate at Max's in the SM Clark mall, but nothing special.
is called C'Italian out on Perimeter Road. The chef is from Switzerland and they have a good wine list. Western quality and prices.
Don't agree on C'Italian. Its not good, I think it's a great restaurant. Ate there a few times last week with three friends and they all agree. It is the best I've had in Asia. A little pricey, but well worth it.
@AsiaFloyd
Yes I think that was the place. I shall visit it maybe tonight. More Info about my first day in Manila at the Manila Thread.
Regarding Food in AC. I can recommend Zapateros where you can have a good selection of American Mexican food. The place is nice, the prices are Ok, just the food is very tastless. Needs to be more spicy.
Regrading bars in AC, I have to say that I wasn't impressed. Alot of girls but not much lookers. The most girls are small and not good in shape.
When the girls are dressed they looks much nicer than when they wear those silly bikinis. Don't understand why they not more have the string tangas. Only the girls in Dollhouse have strings.
From all the bars where I was I can recommend Dollhouse, Blue Nile, Club Icarus and the Mirrors Bar at Clarkton Hotel.
The tequilla girls and the door girls and even in the most bars the waitresses looks much better than the dancer. Maybe because they are dressed and not too much is visible from there often ugly bodies.
I had in my 4 days Angeles only 4 girls.
In the first night I didn't took any girl. The ugly ones I didn't like, the few pretty onces were either cherry girls or not very enthusiastic. It was Friday night and many customer were at the bars so I guess the few stunners were already barfined.
The next day I had a waitress from Mirrors. She had a nice face, but when we were at the room I noticed that her belly was in not good shape. Therefore I took her only for a short time. Later I barfined a very pretty girl at Dollhouse. She was cute, sweet and nice, but for my taste too skinny. I like the voluptious type of girl. Nevertheless I had her over the night.
Nummber 3 was a girl who gave me a blowjob at a perimeter bar. Don't remember the name. I didn't came, she tried about 20 minutes than I said stop it and I left.
Number 4 was a tequilla girl at blue nile executive club. She had a very sexy body. She was very good in bed, came 3 times during the night. Did her even anal, though it was her first time and she couldn't enjoy it really. Nevertheless she was great, only think she wasn't too large. Only about 1,50 m and so I tried to find a taller girl the next night. Wasn't successful. When back home without a girl, since the tequilla girl was also not more available when I entered the blue nile executive club.
So, my conclution is that AC is not my stile. It's a good place for those who can have fun with average to under average looking girls. I am now in Manila and can say that the girls there looks by far much better.
This famous eatery, A.C. Rumpa, is an acronym for Angeles City Retired US Military Personnel Association, which originally opened in 1968. They have a killer Chicken Courdon Bleu! Really everything I've tried has been good, great breakfast too. Located on A. Surla street between MacArthur highway and A. Santos, not far from Fields. Inexpensive.
For a quick snack the Shawarma Center on Fields has the best pita sandwiches this side of Lebanon! Open very late.
[QUOTE=AsiaFloyd]only in angeles. everywhere else is the same as thailand.[/QUOTE]
Not really.... I've mongered numerous times in Subic/Bario Baretto and only paid the bar fine in each bar I've found talent, which was 1,200 pesos for all night.
In Manila, I went to a few fishbowl bars and picked up a cute spinner from a club on United Nations Blvd(?) for 1,500 pesos ST.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]This famous eatery, A.C. Rumpa, is an acronym for Angeles City Retired US Military Personnel Association, which originally opened in 1968. They have a killer Chicken Courdon Bleu! Really everything I've tried has been good, great breakfast too. Located on A. Surla street between MacArthur highway and A. Santos, not far from Fields. Inexpensive.
[/QUOTE]
A word of warning though. Rumor has it that there has been some "hygiene/sanitary problems" at Rumpa. True or not, I don't know, but if you have a sensitive stomach you may want to take note..
I ditto what's been said about C'Italian. Chris is really passionate about serving the best food in AC!
[QUOTE=Great Expecta]Not really.... I've mongered numerous times in Subic/Bario Baretto and only paid the bar fine in each bar I've found talent, which was 1,200 pesos for all night.
In Manila, I went to a few fishbowl bars and picked up a cute spinner from a club on United Nations Blvd(?) for 1,500 pesos ST.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but i was generally speaking. i have only barfined in manila,ac and cebu.
papillion in cebu was ALL INCL and a couple of cocktail lounges in Malate, Manila were 2500 all up.Been to Subic but had my own girl.Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Well I am getting ready. 2 weeks can not get here quick eneogh.
Foriegner
I have stayed one time as previously reported in February at Wild Orchid on Santos. It is bit expensive but well worth the security and cleanliness which we all know in AC is hard to find. Besides the girls go nuts over the pool.
Well here is my question and I have searched to see what I could find. Santos Street is known as Blow Road. When you leave hotel and take right going towards Kokomos there is place cross from Wild Orchid (little place) that I am sure has BJ there. On same side as orchid is mostle ladyboys and definately not my thing. I just don't know where st Blow raod could be cuz they have new apartments being built and then your at Kokomos. If you take left out of wild orchid it becomes Residential very quickly and my guess its not safe to go down there as foriegner. So what did I miss and where is the Black Pearl and other Blow Row establishments. Thanks! Any one want to meet at Kokomos let me know I will be there from 5/5 to 5/16.
In AC the barfine includes the loan for the girl. But, as far I made the experience not so in Manila. In Burgos /Macati the Barfine is about 1500 in Rouges up to 3500 in the most other clubs. Than the better looking girls expect 2000 for ST and 3000 or even higher for LT. It's ridiculous but at least the quality of the girls is quite high.
[color=purple]Check out the map in this link it will help you find what you're looking for.
[url]http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5[/url]
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[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well I am getting ready. 2 weeks can not get here quick eneogh.
Foriegner
I have stayed one time as previously reported in February at Wild Orchid on Santos. It is bit expensive but well worth the security and cleanliness which we all know in AC is hard to find. Besides the girls go nuts over the pool.
Well here is my question and I have searched to see what I could find. Santos Street is known as Blow Road. When you leave hotel and take right going towards Kokomos there is place cross from Wild Orchid (little place) that I am sure has BJ there. On same side as orchid is mostle ladyboys and definately not my thing. I just don't know where st Blow raod could be cuz they have new apartments being built and then your at Kokomos. If you take left out of wild orchid it becomes Residential very quickly and my guess its not safe to go down there as foriegner. So what did I miss and where is the Black Pearl and other Blow Row establishments. Thanks! Any one want to meet at Kokomos let me know I will be there from 5/5 to 5/16.[/QUOTE]
I went out late last night, and was going to eat at Mo's, but it was closed already.
Instead, I went back to Sub Delicious. After I had ordered, I noticed something moving on the floor. I looked down, but didn't see anything. A few minutes later, I look down again, and there's a small mouse there. It runs under the booth, but I snap a picture. I tell the waitress about it, and she looks a little (and I show her the picture), but she doesn't seem concerned.
Needless to say, I won't be eating here again.
I found the Doll House Restaurant has pretty good food, and a good view of the street.
There is also a nice Chinese restaurant. Turn right at the end of Fields and it is on the left side. Chinese is always better with several people because you can sample more dishes.
I ate one night at Bourbon Street. It was good, but expensive. There was a male/female pair singing a wide range of songs - very nice. The atmosphere was great and suprisingly my Perimeter girl acted quite sophisticated.
I didn't know what to expect since earlier in the day she had done the well-known bj mime in the bar, blown up and licked a chocolate flavored condom and gave me a hand J in the bar....
X
I previously posted the Blue Nile Executive Inn on Fields (right across from the Blue Nile Bar) was running a 1,610 peso per night deal from Sun-Thurs.
I don't know if they still are, but I was there 25-29 Mar and was quite happy. They only advertised it by the banner hanging in front of the place. I'm sure if I went to the website there would be no mention.
The place is girl friendly, very clean, and quite nice. I didn't care for the furnishings (opulent inlaid gold cobras, pharoahs, etc.), but after all...it was the "Blue Nile."
Be safe out there...
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I went out late last night, and was going to eat at Mo's, but it was closed already.
Instead, I went back to Sub Delicious. After I had ordered, I noticed something moving on the floor. I looked down, but didn't see anything. A few minutes later, I look down again, and there's a small mouse there. It runs under the booth, but I snap a picture. I tell the waitress about it, and she looks a little (and I show her the picture), but she doesn't seem concerned.
Needless to say, I won't be eating here again.[/QUOTE]
Thanks J.C. for the heads up!
As Sub-Delicious offers one free topping for their 17" P298 take-out pizza I guess I'll have to be a little wary of any general meat toppings offered then (sticking with the tuna) ;)
Some reputable filipino stores DO address the rat problem by hiring special P.U.S.A security squads (Makro and Puregold comes to mind).
Speaking of undesirables, if only we could make the filipinos culinarily interested in various bugs (like the Thais). Imagine all the giant cockroaches being chased by filipinos hungry for a snack...
Are either Pacific Breeze or Angeles Beach Club Hotels having 'promos' (discounted room rates) currently? What rates appear to be on offer for the so-called 'deluxe rooms' (often a term used for the lower classes of rooms); are there any 'promos' for the higher end rooms? How busy are both these places, notwithstanding that after RTFF I deduce that ABC Hotel is 'losing money' and 'about to shut down.' Any word on that latter possibility?
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Notanocker]Are either Pacific Breeze or Angeles Beach Club Hotels having 'promos' (discounted room rates) currently? What rates appear to be on offer for the so-called 'deluxe rooms' (often a term used for the lower classes of rooms); are there any 'promos' for the higher end rooms?[/QUOTE]
Yes there is currently a 20% promotion on several classes of rooms.
Check it for yourself: [url]www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com[/url]
Maybe one of our distinguished brethren who have stayed there can post a review.
On May 11, they are hosting the bikini open!
What bar and the girls name?
always an excellent time in Perimeter bars! Much more fun with the girls than in Fields!
Usually I barfined one cuty already at 4pm and went straight to my hotel room for round one. At 8pm a little snack at Mo's place and some barhopping without the girl ("My dear, go alone, I would like to watch TV instead! And I'm not hungry either, but maybe later you can bring me one Siopao from 7/11?"). At 11pm round two, some rest until 8am, followed by round three.
BTW, all girls from Perimeter road performed much better than their sisters in Fields! IMHO, of course! Somebody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Had my last night in AC on Tuesday night. Barfined a great gal from Cambodia - Angelica. She had a great rack and she really took care of buisness in the sack.
Had a bizzare/awkward situation at Insomnia. Walked in during happy hour, went to the end of the bar and stood there for no less than 20 minutes - no waitress. As a result, I walked out the door at which time the mamason followed me out literally shouting what a "cheap charlie" I was. I explained had she done her job and got me a waitress I would have bought a drink. This made her really mad and she began to scream: "go back where you came from." At that point I had enough and told her: If I go back where I came from scags like you would starve." Well, she went off the deep end screaming at me, while shooting me the bird. Guess she was under a lot of pressure to move drinks.
Back in six months, but not to Insomnia.
[QUOTE=Mattrick] How much was your plane ticket from MFM to BKK?[/QUOTE]
It is around 72 USD
[QUOTE=Billpsu]What bar and the girls name?
always an excellent time in Perimeter bars! Much more fun with the girls than in Fields!
Usually I barfined one cuty already at 4pm and went straight to my hotel room for round one. At 8pm a little snack at Mo's place and some barhopping without the girl ("My dear, go alone, I would like to watch TV instead! And I'm not hungry either, but maybe later you can bring me one Siopao from 7/11?"). At 11pm round two, some rest until 8am, followed by round three.
BTW, all girls from Perimeter road performed much better than their sisters in Fields! IMHO, of course! Somebody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I have almost always had a better time with Perimeter girls, including a girl I have been seeing for a year.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Yes there is currently a 20% promotion on several classes of rooms.
Check it for yourself: [url]www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com[/url]
Maybe one of our distinguished brethren who have stayed there can post a review.
On May 11, they are hosting the bikini open![/QUOTE]
Yea, I knew that would be coming. They have been a ghost town most of the time since they opened. Now they are starting reach out.
[QUOTE=El Vagabundo]I have a friend that is living in Angeles City. I am in Colombia. I want to send my friend a book. I can order it from amazon.com to be delivered anywhere in the USA. Is there anyone going to Angeles in the next month or so that would be willing to help out a couple of old time mongers?[/QUOTE]
I may be going in June, I'd be happy to deliver. Or you could mail it to Margarita's and he can pick it up there. They have a mail board.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut] As Sub-Delicious offers one free topping for their 17" P298 take-out pizza I guess I'll have to be a little wary of any general meat toppings offered then (sticking with the tuna) ;)
Speaking of undesirables, if only we could make the filipinos culinarily interested in various bugs (like the Thais). Imagine all the giant cockroaches being chased by filipinos hungry for a snack...[/QUOTE]The last time I ordered a pizza from Subdelicious I threw most of it out.
Even the first pieces I ate (while really hungry) tasted like crap.
I ordered the smaller size and the girl told me that the 17" was the same price as a special, so I ordered it. Wish I hadnt, as it was such a waste of food.
Regarding the cockroaches, there are certainly some big ones in AC.
If you eat at Kokomos you are bound to see one or two crawling near your food, especially the seats facing the street. Filthy.
Well I am leaving for ANGELES on 5/2.
I can take it there if you would like.
If you do not want to give specific names how about advice on particular Perimeter Road bars you may have found better than others. For example, see my previous post on the Garfield.
[QUOTE=FireWalker][/QUOTE]I have almost always had a better time with Perimeter girls, including a girl I have been seeing for a year.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FireWalker]
>Yes there is currently a 20% promotion on several classes of rooms.
>Check it for yourself: [url]www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com[/url]
Yea, I knew that would be coming. They have been a ghost town most of the time since they opened. Now they are starting reach out.[/QUOTE] With prices starting at 5000 peso (100 USD) we wont cry for them at all!
[QUOTE=Billpsu]If you do not want to give specific names how about advice on particular Perimeter Road bars you may have found better than others. For example, see my previous post on the Garfield.
I have almost always had a better time with Perimeter girls, including a girl I have been seeing for a year.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I had recently a lot of fun in "Dr Holmes"! Give it at try! If I remember correctly the name of the girl was Lucille. But bear in mind that some girls change their bars quite regularly. So, a dancer from "Dr Holmes" might work as a waitress in "Nero's" two months later!
Have fun!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]
I had recently a lot of fun in "Dr Holmes"! Give it at try! If I remember correctly the name of the girl was Lucille. But bear in mind that some girls change their bars quite regularly. So, a dancer from "Dr Holmes" might work as a waitress in "Nero's" two months later!
Have fun!
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Actually the name is "Dr Holm's", Sherlock ;)
I think the owner is European (Scandinavian?) hence the odd name I suppose..
Personally, I prefer Gentleman's Club (right on top of Dr. Holm's). Good attitudes, cheap beer, often free pulutan...
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Actually the name is "Dr Holm's", Sherlock ;)
I think the owner is European (Scandinavian?) hence the odd name I suppose..
Personally, I prefer Gentleman's Club (right on top of Dr. Holm's). Good attitudes, cheap beer, often free pulutan...[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, what an inexcusable mistake I made! Thanks for correcting me, PN! :) Anyway you are right, GC is also a great choice.
Cheers - Hesekiels
I just stayed a few nights at the Angeles Beach Club Hotel (also known as 'ABC' Hotel) and can write a review.
The last time I was in AC, I stayed at the Wild Orchid. A buddy of mine told me that that hotel was the best in town. He never went to the ABC.
The amazing looking building, with all those statues at the front, had caught my eyes everytime I was in the area. So I decided that this time I would check it out and stay a few nights.
From the second I walked in I was blown away! I had never expected anything like it in AC, It was a paradise. The sheer beauty and perfection that was put into every single detail in the hotel is like no other hotel I've seen.
The main theme is some sort of mixture of contemporary classical themes (as you can see from the exterior). The inside, however, is a blend with a unique 'tropcial beach' theme.
What I loved was that although the hotel itself is very high-class, it portrays an exciting 'party' side aswell. Sexy girls in bikinis partying on the beach sipping on tequila (did I say beach?), erotic toys available at the hotel corner shop, if you can't please her on your own. Even the excellent gold-framed replica paintings that hang in the rooms and corridors have sexy Filipina girls in G-strings (sitting on Rembrandt's lap, for example). Though, don't even bother asking the spa girls for any sort of monkey business while having a massage, they are highly trained spa professionals only... who do not do extras!
On entering I was greeted by two sexy receptionists in classy, tight uniforms. I got a deluxe jacuzzi room, since there was a 20% promo (and the jacuzzi deluxe was around $15 more) I thought I might aswell get the jacuzzi.
The other two room types available were deluxe rooms and the 3 Sauna Suites that are situated right infront of the beach (yes, the beach). The deluxe rooms was said to be exactly the same as the deluxe jacuzzi rooms, only, it doesn't have the 3 persons jacuzzi (which left me some exciting memories!).
My room costed $91 (20% promo reducted) excluding 10% service charge and VAT. I suppose this is the most expensive rate to be found in Angeles, but taking in consideration that it includes free breakfast, free internet, free car service, 6 free movie channels (including two porno channels), it makes the number look a lot less.
Entering the room I found out that when they say 'deluxe' in the ABC hotel, they mean it. Top class custom made furnitures, beautiful golden wall coverings, carpeting, combined with an adjustable lighting effect in the ceiling. An amazingly warm and unique, top-class room. The lighting is an indirect light behind the ceiling frames, which can be adjusted to (the girls) desire. The beds are 2x2 meters of a 5 star matrass brand. Large fluffy cushions and thick cozy covers resulted in the best sleep I had in years.
A white sandy beach, swaying palm trees and exotic plants surround the pool. It was hard for me to realize that I was in the middle of the hustling city of Angeles, while being in this little oasis sunbathing on the beach beds. This is a must-see in Angeles, even just for one drink.
Other ammenities included a great international restaurant (which surprisingly wasn't expensive as I expected), Internet Corner, Spa, Sun Terrace, Cornershop, Travel center, and p10/min International room calls.
Two penthouse Suites were still being finished on the top floor. The owner who I got to have a babble with was kind enough to show me the $409 Master Penthouse Suite. Spacious luxurious living room, bedroom, balcony and bathroom of top-notch quality. The living room has a complete sofa set with large flat screen TV. The bedroom with it's 2.5 x 2.5m bed, would fit I guess about 5 ladies snuggled up together. The balcony has a full view of Balibago and the SM mall Across.
Talking to the owner, he gave me the impression that the hotel was not entirely for business purposes only, but simply just to create something exciting and fun in Angeles. He says it is running at a steady 50% occupancy at the moment, but expected this to increase as more people (like me) get to know about it and as the 'party' starts to evolve. Having read some people's reviews that it is going bankrupt is far from true...
I have fallen inlove with the hotel(and some of the receptionists in it...) there is no other place for me to stay. Although the price might be much for someone like me, it is more than worth it. A 5-star-class hotel like this would cost triple.
The ABC Hotel redefines and adds a new dimension to the 'Angeles Experience.' For me, a holiday experience like no other.
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I just stayed a few nights at the Angeles Beach Club Hotel (also known as 'ABC' Hotel) and can write a review.
The last time I was in AC, I stayed at the Wild Orchid. A buddy of mine told me that that hotel was the best in town. He never went to the ABC. The amazing looking building, with all those statues at the front, had caught my eyes everytime I was in the area. So I decided that this time I would check it out and stay a few nights. From the second I walked in I was blown away! I had never expected anything like it in AC, It was a paradise. The sheer beauty and perfection that was put into every single detail in the hotel is like no other hotel I've seen.
The main theme is some sort of mixture of contemporary classical themes (as you can see from the exterior). The inside, however, is a blend with a unique 'tropcial beach' theme.
What I loved was that although the hotel itself is very high-class, it portrays an exciting 'party' side aswell. Sexy girls in bikinis partying on the beach sipping on tequila (did I say beach? ), erotic toys available at the hotel corner shop, if you can't please her on your own. Even the excellent gold-framed replica paintings that hang in the rooms and corridors have sexy Filipina girls in G-strings (sitting on Rembrandt's lap, for example). Though, don't even bother asking the spa girls for any sort of monkey business while having a massage, they are highly trained spa professionals only. Who do not do extras!
On entering I was greeted by two sexy receptionists in stylish, tight uniforms. I got a deluxe jacuzzi room, since there was a 20% promo (and the jacuzzi deluxe was around $15 more) I thought I might aswell get the jacuzzi.
The other two room types available were deluxe rooms and the 3 Sauna Suites that are situated right infront of the beach (yes, the beach). The deluxe rooms was said to be exactly the same as the deluxe jacuzzi rooms, only, it doesn't have the 3 persons jacuzzi (which left me some exciting memories! ).
My room costed $91 (20% promo reducted) excluding 10% service charge and VAT. I suppose this is the most expensive rate to be found in Angeles, but taking in consideration that it includes free breakfast, free internet, free car service, 6 free movie channels (including two porno channels), it makes the number look a lot less.
Entering the room I found out that when they say 'deluxe' in the ABC hotel, they mean it. Top class custom made furnitures, beautiful golden wall coverings, carpeting, combined with an adjustable lighting effect in the ceiling. An amazingly warm and unique top-class room. The lighting is an indirect light behind the ceiling frames, which can be adjusted to (the girls) desire. The beds are 2x2 meters of a 5 star matrass brand. Large fluffy cushions and thick cozy covers resulted in the best sleep I had in years.
A white sandy beach, swaying palm trees and exotic plants surround the pool. It was hard for me to realize that I was in the middle of the hustling city of Angeles, while being in this little oasis sunbathing on the beach beds. This is a must-see in Angeles, even just for one drink.
Other ammenities included a great international restaurant (which surprisingly wasn't expensive as I expected), Internet Corner, Spa, Sun Terrace, Cornershop, Travel center, and p10/min International room calls.
Two penthouse Suites were still being finished on the top floor. The owner who I got to have a babble with was kind enough to show me the $409 Master Penthouse Suite. Spacious luxurious living room, bedroom, balcony and bathroom of top-notch quality. The living room has a complete sofa set with large flat screen TV. The bedroom with it's 2. 5 x 2. 5m bed, would fit I guess about 5 ladies snuggled up together. The balcony has a full view of Balibago and the SM mall Across.
Talking to the owner, it seemed to me that he wasn't doing all this for business only, but simply to create something exciting and fun in Angeles. He says it is running at a steady 50% occupancy at the moment, but expected this to increase as more people get to know about it. He expected it to take a month more or two for the 'party hotel' to evolve as 'party events' are coming soon. Starting with the bikini show in May.
I have fallen inlove with the hotel (and some of the receptionists in it.) there is no other place for me to stay. Although the price might be much for someone like me, it is more than worth it. A 5-star-class hotel like this would normally cost triple!
The ABC Hotel redefines and adds a new dimension to the 'Angeles Experience. ' For me, a holiday experience like no other.
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[QUOTE=Notanocker]Are either Pacific Breeze or Angeles Beach Club Hotels having 'promos' (discounted room rates) currently? What rates appear to be on offer for the so-called 'deluxe rooms' (often a term used for the lower classes of rooms); are there any 'promos' for the higher end rooms? How busy are both these places, notwithstanding that after RTFF I deduce that ABC Hotel is 'losing money' and 'about to shut down.' Any word on that latter possibility?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]The ABC is the absolute hotel experience. I would never choose any other hotel. And it is not about to shut down at all. It was really lively when I was there 2 weeks ago and people are starting to see it as 'the classy party hotel'.
Just returned home from a glorious week in AC and thought I'd add my 2 piso to the board here.
I stayed at the Wild Orchid for the first time. I have to say that it is a very nice hotel with the best pool I've seen in AC. The rooms are nice and clean with both ceiling fans and airconditioners to choose from. Also they have a nice lanai overlooking the pool. Even the food is good in the restaurant. Overall I have to give the place a thumbs up but if you are on a budget then I'd recommend staying at the Pacific Breeze just around the corner. The hotel is just as good but the rooms are a little bigger at half the price. The pool is not as nice at the Breeze but saving $40 a day goes a long way.
I also checked out the new ABC hotel down on Fields to see what a $150 a night AC hotel looks like. Well...it looks fantastic but unless you're rolling like Trump or Snoop Dog, why would you stay there? The restaurant is definately worth checking out though. Great food at a very reasonable price. I had a great grilled swordfish steak meal for P340. Its not the kind of place I'd bring a barfine to but it is a place to enjoy a good meal with your wingman or significant other if you want something a step above the MS/Kokomos standard fare.
I spent most of the days down on the Permiter side and must say they have come a long way since my last trip. The quality of girls has definately gone up on Perimeter and you can't beat the prices for drinks & barfines. The best ST I had my entire trip came out of Fire & Ice. A pretty gal only 21 years old but a true old school LBFM. All of the bars down Perimeter way are worth checking out. My advice is to start at the Clarkton Hotel Mirrors bar and then start working your way back to Fields. Most of the Perimeter bars have ST rooms too so if you're like me and don't want to take the trike all the way back to your Fields hotel, you can use the rooms on the premises. A word of caution though...the ST room at Nifty's is horrible. I'm not even sure if what they have can be called a bed. Its more like a tar pit.
The bars I recall as having the best lineups were Alaska, Camelot, Neros, the old Volcano (can't remember the new name) and the Dollhouse. The Dollhouse is 24X7 which is great if you are a night owl like me. Standad barfine here is P1200 but they have some that want P3,000 because I guess they are considered to be professional dancers. I'll leave that for you to judge but I had no problem finding a hottie at the normal P1200 price. My only complaint with the Dollhouse is they are charging P350 for a ladies drink. That is just crazy IMHO. AC is not Makati and there's no justification for that but definately check the place out just to see the number of hotties they have at any given time.
The best night I had in AC was spent at a new bar called the Wet Spot. It's all the way down on the same street as Stingers and Las Vegas. Just keep walking down the street until you get to the end. This place was really rocking and they have a couple of stunners in here. The night I went it was packed and they had about 6 or 7 bellringers so the girls were all in a good mood and partying. I prefer the smaller clubs anyway and the Wet Spot really needs to be on your checklist of places to see in AC.
The Santos area is just a shell of its former glory. Only a few places are left as the surrounding area is being bought up and turned into high end condos and hotels. The Black Pearl is the best of the lot but it was sad to see this area of AC in its current state. Don't expect quality girls here though...just cheap beer and quality blows for under $10.
A couple of surprising things I learned from this visit....Some of the places now give the girls the option of whether or not they want to be barfined. I'm guessing if she's a stunner and has made good cash for the day on LD's then she can refuse a barfine if she wants to. This is a very bad trend to start. This same practice destroyed Itaewon in Korea several years ago. Unless the customer is belligerent, inebriated, on drugs or just grossly overweight, nobody should ever be turned down for a BF.
Another surprise is tha Norma's money exchange is no longer the best rate in AC. I've used Norma's for years but the place next to the Alaska Club is the same or even has a better rate than Norma's now. There is absolutely no reason to make that long walk to Norma's anymore.
Both Margarita Station and Kokomos are no longer 24X7. This was probably my biggest shock and disappointment on this trip. I used to hit both places after the bars would close and there would always be tons of freelancers, off-duty bargirls or girls just out partying/shooting pool late at night. This provided numerous opportunities and it was just a great part of the AC nightlife scene. Now with both places closing at 3 AM (or maybe 4?) another aspect that made AC special is gone. It also means there is no place to grab a bite to eat late at night anymore. A horrendous decison by the owners of these establishments IMHO. The Dollhouse seems to be the beneficiary of this decsion as it was just packed every night after 5 AM. Unfortunately no unescorted ladies can get in here so the freelancer/off-duty bargirl scene is dead. This was the biggest complaint I heard from both locals and tourists who had been to AC before and might be a true indication that all is not well in AC these days. Maybe one of the locals can provide some insight as to what went into this bad decsion at both places.
All in all AC is still the best place in the Phils for mongering even though its lost some of its charm and options. I'll be back in May and already I'm looking forward to my next schwarma and LBFM. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Simon Holdens]The ABC is the absolute hotel experience. I would never choose any other hotel. And it is not about to shut down at all. It was really lively when I was there 2 weeks ago and people are starting to see it as 'the classy party hotel'.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha!! You've got to be kidding!
Someone writes a negative post about ABC Hotel, then today 'Simon Holdens' joins the ISG board and makes a huge glowing report about the hotel (and then reposts it again) then has to make this other post in response to another negative reaction to a failing hotel.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that 'Simon Holdens' no doubt has some financial interest in the hotel (as a part owner or manager) and has used this forum as a means to promote/save his hotel. Nice try buddy.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]
The bars I recall as having the best lineups were Alaska, Camelot, Neros, the old Volcano (can't remember the new name) and the Dollhouse. The Dollhouse is 24X7 which is great if you are a night owl like me. Standad barfine here is P1200 but they have some that want P3,000 because I guess they are considered to be professional dancers. I'll leave that for you to judge but I had no problem finding a hottie at the normal P1200 price. My only complaint with the Dollhouse is they are charging P350 for a ladies drink. That is just crazy IMHO. AC is not Makati and there's no justification for that but definately check the place out just to see the number of hotties they have at any given time.[/QUOTE]You must have been away from AC for a while as Volcano has been Lancelot since 2003.
The spotlight dancers are P3000 but they are far from being professional dancers (although they think they are). You are right in saying that there is no need to barfine one of those girls for that much money - its just one of many Dollhouse scams. Dollhouse is also infamous for their 'double ladies drinks' which probably wasn't explained to you by the waitress or the bargirl whilst they were fleecing you for the price of these drinks.
Once you received your bill you could have questioned the price and then refused to pay the 'double' prices if they had not told you at the time it was ordered. A full bottle of beer counts as a double as can any drink that the girl tells the waitress. Chances are the drink doesnt even have twice the alcohol (eg. they mix sprite in the beer or glass of wine/champagne).
On top of the double LDs and P3000BF, Dollhouse is renowned for padding the bill if you are drunk or have ordered several rounds of drinks. I rarely enter Dollhouse and will only do so if I am on a Fields barhop with friends and even then will only stay for one beer. Its a bar I try to avoid as much as possible.
Great Poat there Soju Lizard. I share the same thoughts on AC. Your POst was right on the Peso (money)!! I stayed at the Wild Orcheid to as noted in my previous Post. Let me add that the Staff here really took care of there guest. As stated once before I had laundty done at Wild Orchid and 2X left money in my pants pocket. Unbeleabable I got a call from front desk indics ating that they found money I had and it was in clear bag at front desk.
First time it was P 3500 & the second time was P1200. Honesty in AC hmm. Is this possible? Well I go back in May and they earned my return stay there.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]A couple of surprising things I learned from this visit....Some of the places now give the girls the option of whether or not they want to be barfined. I'm guessing if she's a stunner and has made good cash for the day on LD's then she can refuse a barfine if she wants to. This is a very bad trend to start. This same practice destroyed Itaewon in Korea several years ago. Unless the customer is belligerent, inebriated, on drugs or just grossly overweight, nobody should ever be turned down for a BF.[/QUOTE]I think it is great that the girls are free to turn down a BF.
They are not slaves.
You will not have a fun time with a girl who is forced to go with someone she finds repulsive.
[QUOTE=Simon Holdens]I just stayed a few nights at the Angeles Beach Club Hotel (also known as 'ABC' Hotel) ...I have fallen inlove with the hotel .....there is no other place for me to stay. Although the price might be much for someone like me, it is more than worth it. A 5-star-class hotel like this would normally cost triple!
The ABC Hotel redefines and adds a new dimension to the 'Angeles Experience. ' For me, a holiday experience like no other.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Simon for a good report, even making me want to try this next time.
But, but, but - only one nite. I hope they never have success with 10x increase in price. Just think of the consequenses, rich people go here, prices increases. No more 1200 BF all inclusive, but 5000 for BF like Makati. I understand it is worth your Western money, Simon, but I hope they never succeed.
AC is for me the place I go having 2-3 GF every day. 500 peso lunch ST (a hootie you have phone number to), 1200 LT at 6pm and 1200 LT at midnite. This is how I wanna spend my 60USD. Try and fail and when you find the real GF, stay with here some days.
God, I miss it now and wanna come back soon. A week holiday here cunts as 12 weeks back home. AC, Addicted Cunty?
I agree Girlfinder. Although the ABC hotel is very nice, its just not what I go to AC for and I feel like this albatross will have further ramifications in changing AC to "Little Makati" which none of us want.
I don't spend a lot of time in the hotel anyway except for sleeping, showering and sexual acrobatics. I definately don't need gaudy gold framed pictures on the wall to make my stay more enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Thanks Simon for a good report, even making me want to try this next time.
But, but, but - only one nite. I hope they never have success with 10x increase in price. Just think of the consequenses, rich people go here, prices increases. No more 1200 BF all inclusive, but 5000 for BF like Makati. I understand it is worth your Western money, Simon, but I hope they never succeed.
AC is for me the place I go having 2-3 GF every day. 500 peso lunch ST (a hootie you have phone number to), 1200 LT at 6pm and 1200 LT at midnite. This is how I wanna spend my 60USD. Try and fail and when you find the real GF, stay with here some days.
God, I miss it now and wanna come back soon. A week holiday here cunts as 12 weeks back home. AC, Addicted Cunty?[/QUOTE]
Well, I've seen the recommendations and tried many of them. Here are some I've done the last few days:
Gerry's Grill - SM City - Clark. Going on a recommendation, I ate here before seeing a movie. The steak was the most expensive item on the menu. 420P or 440P. I love steaks, and hardly ever order them because they're so shitty in Asia.
While the quality was okay, it was fairly small (220g, I'd guess). The steak at ABC is much better quality. Sides were okay, and service was okay. I'd go back, but order more local items, and not the steak.
Angelo's - Italian food. Upstairs on Fields. Reasonable pricing, okay service. 10% service automatically added to bill. I got some pork fillets, with a mushroom sauce. 185P. Came with a side of pasta or potatoes. I got the pasta, and it was fettucine noodles, and had a decent sauce on it.
Most prices seemed reasonable, except for some seafood options. Most everything else was 300P or less.
They also give you some bread with butter, which was of good quality. I went at 9pm at night on Friday, and there was only one other table occupied.
ABC Hotel. I went Saturday night, and this is a pretty fancy place. You can eat out by the pool, or inside the Air conditioned restaurant. For Angeles, a bit expensive.
They do have a set menu, and tonight it was 350p, vat and tip inclusive. It was a cream of chicken and asparagus soup that was quite good. For your entree you had a choice of Steak ala Hawaiian or a Thai beef with noodles. You also got a Mango Float, which was a piece of mango cake, not the ice cream creation, I had envisioned.
I got the Steak ala Hawaiian, and it was two medium sized pieces of beef, with a pineapple ring on the top of each. Nice quality meat, with good flavor. Dessert of the Mango Float cake was quite tasty. I was surprised that even the 10% service was included in all the prices here.
I think you'll spend 400p-500p for most meals here with a non-alcoholic drink. Not cheap, but quality seemed to be worth it.
Zapata's Mexican food (Perimeter) - I've heard a lot of raves about this place, but I just don't see it. I got the beef Fajitas, and they were barely edible. Wafer thin tortillas that looked more like rice paper. Only 250P, but I see no reason to return here.
I also got to see some of the perimeter bars for the first time. Went into Full Brawn, Caddy Shack, and Illusions. None of them too good, but I found a 35 kilo cutie at Caddy Shack for 1000p bar fine.
Swiss Chalet - I've heard raves about this place, but both times I've eaten there, I thought it was pricey compared to Mo's nearby, and the quality wasn't anything super. I've never seen more than 2 table busy when I've been there.
Speaking of Mo's, I've eaten there about 5 times so far, and haven't been disappointed yet. I think I had one meal that was about 300p, but most are 200-250p.
Hey correspondent,
I think you might be on the money about that 'review' of ABC.
Having said that, the "reducted" (sic) price mentioned in the original post starts to approach what is reasonable. Still high, but would be ok if it were the rack rate.
The problem that such places have is that they do provide a lot of infrastructure that is expensive, and is not really what anybody comes to AC for.
I also figure that AC is now ripe for 'redevelopment', something the size of the Clarkton Mall would obliterate the whole scene, and it would just take one crusading politician with connections to do it. Sure they would lose some money, but that didn't stop them chucking the US out of Fields did it? And that large highway coming in just being built shows all the hallmarks of an overall plan for the area by the Government.
So monger there while you can fellas...and in the meantime start looking elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Si Poppi]I think it is great that the girls are free to turn down a BF.
They are not slaves.[/QUOTE]
Fully agree!
Cheers!
It was sad to see the girls in Angelwitch in Pattaya who were not allowed to refuse a barfine. Or in Phnom Penh where no girl can refuse a barfine.
Angeles City is the best place for me. I want the girls to be given the right to refuse! It makes it right.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]
Angeles City is the best place for me. I want the girls to be given the right to refuse! It makes it right.[/QUOTE]
Totally agreed! BTW, having the right to refuse a barfine and taking some days off proves to me the matter of fact that no girl in AC acts under duress!
Cheers - Hesekiels
There's good and bad about allowing the hookers (don't kid yourself about what they are) to refuse customers. I was no way implying they be treated as slaves, be forced to work under duress or go with BF's that would in anyway place them in danger. But its a slippery slope once you go down that path. Korea started the same thing circa 1989 and now the villes there are nothing but juicy bars. Zero barfining; zero mongering. It's not even an option. The DOD put the final nail in the mongering coffin a few years ago with their zero tolerance policy for prostitution by placing establishments off-limits that did allow barfines but the practice was nearly completely extinct already.
I think its safe to say that nobody on this board wants Angeles to turn into a juicy bar town that no longer does barfines. Maybe I'm just being paranoid after seeing what happened in Korea and knowing how quickly you'll be tossed from a strip bar in the US if you even proposition one of the strippers. Chivalry is very PC and you guys earned approving nods from the feminist extremists who troll this board, but be careful of what you wish for.
The first sign of the apocalypse will be when a large bar opens on Fields with zero barfining allowed. Its a slippery slope gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Totally agreed! BTW, having the right to refuse a barfine and taking some days off proves to me the matter of fact that no girl in AC acts under duress!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]It was sad to see the girls in Angelwitch in Pattaya who were not allowed to refuse a barfine. Or in Phnom Penh where no girl can refuse a barfine.
Angeles City is the best place for me. I want the girls to be given the right to refuse! It makes it right.[/QUOTE]Let them refuse anyone they want. Except me!
Apples versus Oranges. Prostitution is driven by poverty. And since South Korea now has a first world economy. They can now afford imposing higher morality standards. It will be a long time before the Philippines will be in the same economic bracket. There may not always be an Angeles City, but there will always be a third world economy out there somewhere.
If a girl finds you too fat, ugly, smelly, rude, obnoxious, cheap, etc..., why would you want her to be forced to go with you?
If she claims to have a headache, sick, or mens., take a hint and move on.
Are you going to call her a liar and force her to go with you?
It doesn't matter how pretty she is if she is grossed out and performs like a cold mechanical starfish.
Maybe you will get in a few pokes and a quick HJ before she runs.
There are plenty of fish in the sea.
Find one who gives off good vibes, or better yet, let one pick you.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]Both Margarita Station and Kokomos are no longer 24X7. .[/QUOTE]Margarita Station is still open 24 hours. They close in the wee hours of the morning once of month for a heavy dose of insect spraying.
Based on past experience, Kokomos will probably revert back to a 24 hour operation once the "slow season" is over. Sorry, I'm not privy to the plans. September is my guess.
Gentlemen,
Been reading reports for the past 2 months and noted nothing mentioned at all on massage services at ac. Anyone here had any experience having massage at imee massage, classic touch massage, japanese bath & massage. Any info on how much, extra service, type of gals, type of massage would be appreciated.
Cheers
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]It will be a long time before the Philippines will be in the same economic bracket. [/QUOTE]
Well, MM808, are you really sure that it takes a long time until the Fils will be in the same economic bracket? Brother, I don't think so! You bet your life, in just 432 short years they are on the very same level with Korea! :)
In the meantime you, I and all our friends from ISG can enjoy prostitution in AC, not driven by poverty, but by pure fun of the girls! Think about it when you see them dancing, singing and joking on stage - and, of course, when you penetrate their wet pussies!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Thanks for the info Smiley. Thats good to know. AC was quiet the week I was there. It's the last time I go the week after Easter.
[QUOTE=Smiley2]Margarita Station is still open 24 hours. They close in the wee hours of the morning once of month for a heavy dose of insect spraying.
Based on past experience, Kokomos will probably revert back to a 24 hour operation once the "slow season" is over. Sorry, I'm not privy to the plans. September is my guess.[/QUOTE]
Good points. I just hate to see the first signs in AC of what happened in Korea. Once the girls in Korea realized they could make just as much from juicys (if not more) than going on BF's, within just a few years the mongering scene was gone. The bars are all still there but no more BF's....just $12 -$25 juicy's now. At each stage of the Korean evolution, the Western clientele, with our Western standards of chivalry, supported the changes for the "benefit of the girls" with similar reasons that folks have stated below in this thread. Once the dust was settled, we all realized that we'd lost a great playground; probably the third best in the world at that time after the PI and Thailand. I don't think it will happen anytime soon in the Phils for a variety of reasons but someone has to be the Devil's Advocate. :)
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Apples versus Oranges. Prostitution is driven by poverty. And since South Korea now has a first world economy. They can now afford imposing higher morality standards. It will be a long time before the Philippines will be in the same economic bracket. There may not always be an Angeles City, but there will always be a third world economy out there somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Everyone is right!
Let's just have fun now!
Cheers to All here!
I just checked out this morning, after a 9 day stay here. I can't remember the last time that I stayed in such a nice place, with great service under $100 a night.
Some of the things that just annoy me so much aren't an issue here. No housekeeping knocking on your door at 10am, when you went to bed at 6am. No padding the bill with mini-bar charges for stuff you never drank. No rude desk personnel when you bring chicas back to your room.
By the second day, all the desk people knew my name. I had booked via email about 2-3 weeks before I came. They didn't have the standard $29 room for the first 4 nights. When the room did become available, the room they showed me really smelled of smoke. They found me another one without any problem, and then 3 of the housekeeping staff moved all my stuff!
The wired internet was a bit hit or miss, I'd say it was up about 75% of the time, and a few of the bath towels were in need of replacement. At least they were of decent quality, and not the paper thin kinds you get in a lot of Asia.
I only ate in the restaurant the last night, and found the pricing to be fair, just a bit over Mo's prices, and the waitresses are *hot*.
I rarely post such glowing reviews of a place, but I was quite impressed with Central Park.
I travel to different parts of Asia every 4 months. The Central Park HOtel has the very best Staff and Services of any hotel that I have ever stayed at in Asia. But now, I understand that the same owner (s) has a second hotel in AC called the Pacific Breeze. So I am guessing that they will staff PB with an equally outstanding hotel staff. In less than two weeks, I shall be staying at both to compare them. Will report back later on the results.)
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I just checked out this morning, after a 9 day stay here. I can't remember the last time that I stayed in such a nice place, with great service under $100 a night.
Some of the things that just annoy me so much aren't an issue here. No housekeeping knocking on your door at 10am, when you went to bed at 6am. No padding the bill with mini-bar charges for stuff you never drank. No rude desk personnel when you bring chicas back to your room.
By the second day, all the desk people knew my name. I had booked via email about 2-3 weeks before I came. They didn't have the standard $29 room for the first 4 nights. When the room did become available, the room they showed me really smelled of smoke. They found me another one without any problem, and then 3 of the housekeeping staff moved all my stuff!
The wired internet was a bit hit or miss, I'd say it was up about 75% of the time, and a few of the bath towels were in need of replacement. At least they were of decent quality, and not the paper thin kinds you get in a lot of Asia.
I only ate in the restaurant the last night, and found the pricing to be fair, just a bit over Mo's prices, and the waitresses are *hot*.
I rarely post such glowing reviews of a place, but I was quite impressed with Central Park.[/QUOTE]Hi Gentlemen,
I will be having my very first trip to AC this weekend and after reading all the reports here, I must say that I have equipped myself with adequate info and knowledge of AC to move around. will be staying at Hotel Royal Amsterdam.
BTW, anyone here has any idea on the location of the nearest casino. I found two from internet but unsure the distance from AC itself. thought of spending some hours there to try my luck.
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any info would be appreciated. TQ , bud.
[QUOTE=Foxdana]BTW, anyone here has any idea on the location of the nearest casino. I found two from internet but unsure the distance from AC itself. thought of spending some hours there to try my luck.[/QUOTE]
The Royal Amsterdam hotel on Fields ave.(and the entire entertainment district) is actually in Balibago and can't be more than a five minute walk to the casino, which is located on McArthur Hwy.
For years the Central Park (formerly Chicago Park) was my hotel of choice in AC. Never had a problem there. I've now switched to the Pacific Breeze which is probably the best hotel for the money in AC.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]I travel to different parts of Asia every 4 months. The Central Park HOtel has the very best Staff and Services of any hotel that I have ever stayed at in Asia. But now, I understand that the same owner (s) has a second hotel in AC called the Pacific Breeze. So I am guessing that they will staff PB with an equally outstanding hotel staff. In less than two weeks, I shall be staying at both to compare them. Will report back later on the results.)[/QUOTE]
I use to always go to the orchid inn, but now i stay at the clarkton and have one of their new studio rooms at around 3000 peso, the space in these rooms are bigger than any european rooms I have stayed in, let alone phills hotels, you also get a nice balcony, very large bed, and the wifi connection in the room is the best i have known.
But what attracted to me first to the clarkton wasn't the hotel rooms so much. but the quality of the food. The swiss chef seems to have a complete control over the food quality and is always there, the food in the orchid is just greasy rubbish, so i use to stay at the orchid inn and eat at the clarkton.
Staying at the clarkton i have discovered a few new bars where the girls are a bit more appreciating of my money than the fields girls, like Lost in Asai.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]I travel to different parts of Asia every 4 months. The Central Park HOtel has the very best Staff and Services of any hotel that I have ever stayed at in Asia. But now, I understand that the same owner (s) has a second hotel in AC called the Pacific Breeze. So I am guessing that they will staff PB with an equally outstanding hotel staff. In less than two weeks, I shall be staying at both to compare them. Will report back later on the results.)[/QUOTE]
I agree Central Park is a very good hotel choice in angeles. The only downside is their pool which is more like a large bathtub. Pacific Breeze looks great from the photos on its website, but is more expensive. Anyone stayed there yet and is it worth the price difference? I don't really care too much about the pool and otherwise Central Park is fine with me so I'd leaning toward saving a little money by staying there again unless there's some major difference.
[QUOTE=Steve74]I agree Central Park is a very good hotel choice in angeles. The only downside is their pool which is more like a large bathtub. Pacific Breeze looks great from the photos on its website, but is more expensive. Anyone stayed there yet and is it worth the price difference? I don't really care too much about the pool and otherwise Central Park is fine with me so I'd leaning toward saving a little money by staying there again unless there's some major difference.[/QUOTE]Steve 74,
I have post this info many time this two hotel is own by the same owner ,if you stay at central park about 30 usd older hotel you can get a pass to use the Pacific Breeze pool this is a new hotel open dec 2006 $ 45usd room is much nicer and the pool is best in the area.
Fast eddie 48
Just walk to the end of Fields Ave, make a right on McCarther road. The casino is about 4 blocks down.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]The Royal Amsterdam hotel on Fields ave.(and the entire entertainment district) is actually in Balibago and can't be more than a five minute walk to the casino, which is located on McArthur Hwy.[/QUOTE]
I think Mo's place is the worst place to eat in AC!
Everytime I have ordered there they have got the order wrong. Last time I ordered some toast, no butter on the toast, with a portion of jam in a pot, so how was it served to me toast smothered with this butter and jam on top!
The cooked food is so greasy I just can't eat this sort of food.
The best places to eat in ac (imho)has got to be the Clarkton Hotel, the swiss chef has a complete hold on the food quality there, also Salvatore's some of the best pizza I have ever eaten, the fortunue Chinese restaraunt on Mc Arthur opposite the casino, Red sea restaraunt opposite Viper lounge very good eastern spicey food, American legion very low cost quality canteen food, Cottage kitchen very good steaks, baby pork ribs.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Well, I've seen the recommendations and tried many of them. Here are some I've done the last few days:
Gerry's Grill - SM City - Clark. Going on a recommendation, I ate here before seeing a movie. The steak was the most expensive item on the menu. 420P or 440P. I love steaks, and hardly ever order them because they're so shitty in Asia.
While the quality was okay, it was fairly small (220g, I'd guess). The steak at ABC is much better quality. Sides were okay, and service was okay. I'd go back, but order more local items, and not the steak.
Angelo's - Italian food. Upstairs on Fields. Reasonable pricing, okay service. 10% service automatically added to bill. I got some pork fillets, with a mushroom sauce. 185P. Came with a side of pasta or potatoes. I got the pasta, and it was fettucine noodles, and had a decent sauce on it.
Most prices seemed reasonable, except for some seafood options. Most everything else was 300P or less.
They also give you some bread with butter, which was of good quality. I went at 9pm at night on Friday, and there was only one other table occupied.
ABC Hotel. I went Saturday night, and this is a pretty fancy place. You can eat out by the pool, or inside the Air conditioned restaurant. For Angeles, a bit expensive.
They do have a set menu, and tonight it was 350p, vat and tip inclusive. It was a cream of chicken and asparagus soup that was quite good. For your entree you had a choice of Steak ala Hawaiian or a Thai beef with noodles. You also got a Mango Float, which was a piece of mango cake, not the ice cream creation, I had envisioned.
I got the Steak ala Hawaiian, and it was two medium sized pieces of beef, with a pineapple ring on the top of each. Nice quality meat, with good flavor. Dessert of the Mango Float cake was quite tasty. I was surprised that even the 10% service was included in all the prices here.
I think you'll spend 400p-500p for most meals here with a non-alcoholic drink. Not cheap, but quality seemed to be worth it.
Zapata's Mexican food (Perimeter) - I've heard a lot of raves about this place, but I just don't see it. I got the beef Fajitas, and they were barely edible. Wafer thin tortillas that looked more like rice paper. Only 250P, but I see no reason to return here.
I also got to see some of the perimeter bars for the first time. Went into Full Brawn, Caddy Shack, and Illusions. None of them too good, but I found a 35 kilo cutie at Caddy Shack for 1000p bar fine.
Swiss Chalet - I've heard raves about this place, but both times I've eaten there, I thought it was pricey compared to Mo's nearby, and the quality wasn't anything super. I've never seen more than 2 table busy when I've been there.
Speaking of Mo's, I've eaten there about 5 times so far, and haven't been disappointed yet. I think I had one meal that was about 300p, but most are 200-250p.[/QUOTE]
I will never forgive them for ruining my very first night very first trip to AC. I had a pastrami sandwich and in the middle of the night woke up to spend half an hour praying to the porcelin god. I pretty much have a cast iron stomach and I am well traveled in the 3rd world.
I have never had a problem anywhere else, even eating filipino style with my bargirl friends.
MisterMax needs to read the biographies of the many prostitutes who now write about their experiences.
Universally, they say that they chose prostitution for many reasons, very few of which are poverty. Most of which have to do with money, power, excitement, self fulfilment.
How can he explain how, in my town in Australia, there is always a half page or more of advertisements for prostitutes in the local paper. There are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia than in the Philippines. You can gat any form of sex in Australia that you want, boys, girls, hetero, homo, anything. And Australia is one of the richest populations on earth.
Is this driven by poverty?
No.
A woman may choose to be a prostitute, but to say that this is driven by poverty is a disgrace. There are so many people in the Philippines, and I know quite a few, who live a life that the westerner would consider to be poverty, but they do not. I can introduce you to a man who lives in a grass hut, with two wives, six pigs, and a vegetable patch who would never consider himself to be living in poverty. He lives in the highlands of Papua New Guinea.
Think seriously about poverty. Most western definitions are ridiculous. A few women will be driven into prostitution by pressure of their family. I know of girls who are sold into prostitution by their mothers and aunts. These women should be jailed. But they will not.
Why are you in Angeles?
Prostitutes have an important place in society. They have been working for as long as history is recorded. Prostitution will never die, no matter how rich the populace. It is just that the price goes up.
Get real.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience at Mos , I have eaten there on many occasions and had absolutely no problems with either the food or service. Even the best of places can sometimes get it wrong.
P.S. Try the Hungarian goulash [Tuesday special] It is masarap.
Tom Brack
[QUOTE=FireWalker]I will never forgive them for ruining my very first night very first trip to AC. I had a pastrami sandwich and in the middle of the night woke up to spend half an hour praying to the porcelin god. I pretty much have a cast iron stomach and I am well traveled in the 3rd world.
I have never had a problem anywhere else, even eating filipino style with my bargirl friends.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmmm. Okay. "whatever".
But the truth is that we always underestimate the human power of denial. When it suits our goals.
Do you really think that they would be as much prostitution if everyone on earth was a millionaire?
I don't wish to get into this discussion, but to manipulate the facts to fit your personal bias is just self serving wishful thinking.
But like I said, "whatever"!
Cheers, Max
Just returned home from a ( only ) 3 nights visit to Angeles and as promised earlier when asking hotel advise here my 2c.
I did select the Wild Orchid for my stay and all was very nice. Although relatively expensive the stay and service was perfect. The new garden Jacuzzi ( at 125 $ a night ) rooms are clean, spacious and really brand new with both ceiling fan and remotely controlled air-conditioning.
Pool is nice, food in the restaurant is good and service very good, also for your GF, even if it is another one every day.
ATM :
Being to Bangkok several times where you can find an ATM easily in AC it's more difficult. Of course this board did give me some guidance, but an easy one is the one at the SM Mall, outside entrance location. This is at walking distance from Fields. Alternatively take a trike for 50 peso's to SM.
Nightlife / bars :
I think having visited nearly all bars at Fields and must say during these 3 days in April the best bars were Lollipop, Typhoon and Treasure Island. But also Wet Spot was great fun, I did find this one by just walking the same street as Las Vegas and Stingers to the end. I like the smaller bars for the fun part, a bar like Blue Nile is way to big, girls standing on the podium too far away, but hey have great lookers in there moving on the podium.
The first night after arrival I took 2 ladies to Wild Orchid out of Typhoon, not real stunners but very accommodating in the Jacuzzi and the bed afterwards. Stayed the night, as usual in AC and left around 10 AM. Sorry, forgot the names but one was relatively white skinned, big rack and cousin of one of the waitresses and not so long in the business. The other small and darker skinned with a lovely face. Both performed BBBJ & CIM really super.
Second night : after the regular barhopping and meeting a Canadian guy I ended up in Lollipop and met a very soft girl and a lot of others with whom I shared loads of lady drinks having a great party. Oops, counts up if you have fun.... 2000 plus for LD's. Anyway ...Late night I took with me Jamie, nice soft body, bigger as usual rack and very friendly. Relatively passive in bed but anyway ... nice and sweet. More a GF experience.
Before this I did meet a stunning beauty in Viper Room, an absolute stunner but only 6 days in the business but not a cherry girl. She was afraid to go with customers; we talked quite long and had some fun but decided that I would come back the next day at 2 PM to barfine her and have the afternoon etc. together to see what happens.
Third day and night :
Went back to Viper Room at 2:30 PM to meet my beauty. And yes, she was there and waiting to go. After some drinks and paying the standard 1200 P BF we left for SM mall to have some food but also a massage together. Ground floor entrance SM Mall with very nice rooms, interconnecting. My lady did not have any professional massage before but liked the combination massage. Price point 500 Peso's each with special oil for one hour. After the massage we've been told not to shower / swim for 6 hours. Oops.... Jacuzzi was waiting. After some play in the room, no Boom Boom I decided the sent my stunner home to select and find a real sex hotty for the night; the reason for doing so was being in AC you also want to have some great fucks, isn't it and she was too shy / inexperienced for this. She welcomed this and told me she would come back the next morning at 11 AM. ( Let's wait and see ).
Hunting time and ending up in Typhoon again I found a small beauty who was fun to be with, loads of interaction and laughs in the bar and really begging to go with me to Wild Orchid for bed party and swim in the morning ("they have nice pool"). Heading home at 1 AM I found out having made the right decision sending the Viper Room lady home. She sucked and fucked me completely dry and started doing so in the whirlpool. ( unfortunate it takes a long time to fill up the pool ).
Before finding my lady of the night I was also in Wet Spot, little more far away from the Field action, but a funny bar with some lookers. Wanted to take 2 nice ladies, but one left 10 PM and could not come with me that night .... so no threesome from Wet Spot. Mamasan in Wet Spot is very friendly as well.
Does stunner come back at 11:00 ?
Having breakfast and just released the Typhoon night partner without her wanted swim exactly at 11:00 she arrives at the Wild Orchid wanting to share the Jacuzzi with me. This means I need to ask for a late check out. No problem at Wild Orchid, I can stay until 3 PM without any charge ( normally 20 $ ).
So stunner and I fill up the Jacuzzi again and have a great time in it, less shy and softly accommodating. She leaves close to 2 PM to start work at Viper Room exchanging contact details with me.
Afternoon action :
Two times, also the last day when stunner has left, went to Nifty's and the next bar at Perimeter Road to experience these. Fun, fun.... no real beauties but really focused on your dick. For 3 lady drinks ( total 300 BF ) you'll get a sample BJ. First day had 3 ladies in Nifty's for each approx. 10 mins slurping my horny harry. Two of them took 3 tequila LD's during the session. Fun to have experienced. Did not go upstairs or shoot the load since I needed the power for the night.
Coming to AC :
I did fly from Singapore with Tiger. Good flight, reasonable priced budget airline and nice Airbus 320. Driving from Clark only 15 mins max.
Hope to see more of AC and report once again in the future, take care.
MartinNL
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[QUOTE=Gangles]MisterMax needs to read the biographies of the many prostitutes who now write about their experiences.
Universally, they say that they chose prostitution for many reasons, very few of which are poverty. Most of which have to do with money, power, excitement, self fulfilment.
How can he explain how, in my town in Australia, there is always a half page or more of advertisements for prostitutes in the local paper. There are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia than in the Philippines. You can gat any form of sex in Australia that you want, boys, girls, hetero, homo, anything. And Australia is one of the richest populations on earth.
Is this driven by poverty?
No.
A woman may choose to be a prostitute, but to say that this is driven by poverty is a disgrace. There are so many people in the Philippines, and I know quite a few, who live a life that the westerner would consider to be poverty, but they do not. I can introduce you to a man who lives in a grass hut, with two wives, six pigs, and a vegetable patch who would never consider himself to be living in poverty. He lives in the highlands of Papua New Guinea.
Think seriously about poverty. Most western definitions are ridiculous. A few women will be driven into prostitution by pressure of their family. I know of girls who are sold into prostitution by their mothers and aunts. These women should be jailed. But they will not.
Why are you in Angeles?
Prostitutes have an important place in society. They have been working for as long as history is recorded. Prostitution will never die, no matter how rich the populace. It is just that the price goes up.
Get real.[/QUOTE]Very well said. You are right in that popular belief is that prostitution is driven by poverty, which it is not. We look around and see poverty and all the prostitutes, and we connect the two, but that is wrong. It has much more to do with income discrpancies, then poverty. For example, lets say the USA had no anti-prostitution laws. If wealthy foreigners came in offering a months salary for one fuck, you would be amazed at how many "regular" girls would take up the offer.
It is like China. I went there recently and was very dissapointed at how few cute prostitutes I could find. 10 years ago, when the economy was quite different, they were everywhere (at least that is what I was told). So I told my friend "now that everyone has money, all the prostitutes have gone". But he corrected my and asked if I checked out the high end KTV places. "not really" I said "it can cost several hundred USD to take out a cute girl from one of those places". "Exactly", he says, "they are just more expensive".
So I thought about it. There are hundreds of those place, but they were out of my budget. Prostitution in China has not disappeared. It has just moved into more comfortable surroundings.
I am from the US. I am in the Philippines because the Philippines is so inexpensive for the hobby. If I was rich, I could have more beautiful prostitutes in the USA then I could fuck in a hundred lifetimes. Did you ever notice how the vast majority of mongerers out here are middle class working folk. Why aren't all the rich jetsetters out here taking advantage of all the girls driven to prostitution "due to poverty"? . Because they are too busy paying a $1, 000 a night to prostitutes in their own contry who are also "driven to prostitution by poverty"
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Do you really think that they would be as much prostitution if everyone on earth was a millionaire?[/QUOTE]If everyone on earth was a millionaire, there would be almost no prostituion. But if half the population was a millionaire, and the other half were billionaires, the going price for a fuck would be around $10, 000 and prostitution would be rampant. I just hope, in such a world, that I was one of the billionaires.
Loveasian*****s,
You are absolutely right! Hahahhaahaaa! It reminds me of what Einstein discovered. The theory of relativity.
And. Damn that "inflation"! A dollar doesn't always buy what it use to!
NOw, let's get back to the Girls! Max!
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]Very well said. You are right in that popular belief is that prostitution is driven by poverty, which it is not. We look around and see poverty and all the prostitutes, and we connect the two, but that is wrong. It has much more to do with income discrpancies, then poverty. For example, lets say the USA had no anti-prostitution laws. If wealthy foreigners came in offering a months salary for one fuck, you would be amazed at how many "regular" girls would take up the offer.
It is like China. I went there recently and was very dissapointed at how few cute prostitutes I could find. 10 years ago, when the economy was quite different, they were everywhere (at least that is what I was told). So I told my friend "now that everyone has money, all the prostitutes have gone". But he corrected my and asked if I checked out the high end KTV places. "not really" I said "it can cost several hundred USD to take out a cute girl from one of those places". "Exactly", he says, "they are just more expensive".
So I thought about it. There are hundreds of those place, but they were out of my budget. Prostitution in China has not disappeared. It has just moved into more comfortable surroundings.
I am from the US. I am in the Philippines because the Philippines is so inexpensive for the hobby. If I was rich, I could have more beautiful prostitutes in the USA then I could fuck in a hundred lifetimes. Did you ever notice how the vast majority of mongerers out here are middle class working folk. Why aren't all the rich jetsetters out here taking advantage of all the girls driven to prostitution "due to poverty"? . Because they are too busy paying a $1, 000 a night to prostitutes in their own contry who are also "driven to prostitution by poverty"[/QUOTE]In the Philippines you have all kind. You can pay from 200 peso to 100 000 peso dependends what you want. The local here geting girls even working in local beerhouse, KTV or massage pearlor. we going to bars in AC Burgos street or pick up places like LA Cafe. The sory same only diffrent price.
Beside same you paying casch others you ave to pay lifetime.
So just treat the girls we paying well and have FUN. Never look down on the girls in philippines mostly NEED the casch and they are very good not ONLY MONEY MONEY.
Thank you
I will be going to AC in June. As a newbie, I was wondering how much spending money I should bugdet for 12 days, not including money for the hotel. Although not a Cheap Charlie, I still want to be smart about my expenses in AC. Any help would be appreicated.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=El Capitan65]I will be going to AC in June. As a newbie, I was wondering how much spending money I should bugdet for 12 days, not including money for the hotel. Although not a Cheap Charlie, I still want to be smart about my expenses in AC. Any help would be appreicated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty laid back, don't drink much, don't buy a crazy amount of ladies drinks, don't ring the bell and buy drinks for all the women in the bar. On a real conservative day I would say $70 not including hotel. The average bar fine is about 1200 pesos which is about $25. I would probably err on the higher side and say $100-120 a day which would help even out things like multiple bar fines in one day on occasion and the cost of a private taxi to and from airport of $50 a pop each way.
Honestly this is very subjective and usually people will vary widely with their responses. It really depends on how you are and what fun is for you. The avg. drink for you is little less than $2 and the avg lady drink is about $3. You can eat pretty cheap for each meal, but if you are conservative you can eat for about $4-7 pretty easily a meal. Reading the people's reports here and figuring which is closest to your style would put the costs more in perspective. There are people who easily go through $200-300 a day in AC, and then there are people who spend less than a $100 including hotel.
[QUOTE=El Capitan65]how much spending money I should bugdet for 12 days, not including money for the hotel. [/QUOTE]
Excluding hotel I usually burn 3-4k pesos per day.
Around 55 Euros. (1Euro=64ps, 1USD=47.3ps)
Enjoy!
Yeah I tell everybody phills so cheap, so why do I always go back to england with no holliday money left!
I think the trouble is you can easily get sucked into the drinking/playing pool/multiple bar fines syndrome, and what with taking the lady out for meals ect, suddenly you realize cash burn!
But the life in ac is like dysneyland for us mongers so you just have to try everything you can, so I would set a budget of around $120. 00 per day.
I have found out that if you have a long time bar fine with a girl, you end up spending little money, as the girls I have been with have always advised me if I was being ripped off for anything I was buying.
Fuck the expense, just enjoy!
[QUOTE=Any Hole]... so I would set a budget of around $120. 00 per day ...
Fuck the expense, just enjoy![/QUOTE]
No doubt, this budget guarantees you a lot of fun, including two barfines and a number of ladies' drinks (maybe a considerable cost factor if I remember correctly!? Mr Ekspat, am I right? :) )! I cannot agree more, "fuck the expense, just enjoy", that's namely exactly the reason why we are in AC!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hello guys,
Im back to normal life and just wana give some info about my last trip to the Philippines.
When I go to PHils I make sure I have a budget about 100 euro to spend, excluding cost of stay plus some extra money in case something happen or I might get married (lol). Both has never happend.
I stayed at Dm residente, 1050 p a day, nice rooms, walkin distance to fields.
Checked out new bars, carousel. I think german owned, same like la pasha, big video screens. Its just besides Dollhouse. Staff is friendly, not pushy, that how I like it.
After a few beers I check Dollhouse. I have to say Dollhouse seems to be a rip off. Gurls are stuck up. If you have a gurl sit next to you, they ask for san miguel light, which is more expensive then a normal LD. I think about 300p, more or less.
But sometimes, they have some real cuties there. This evening one of the doorgurls catched my attention. Korean looks and frim sexy body from what I saw. I literally had to chase her, grab her by the arms and we went to a place to sit down. She ask me for a a LD, san migel, I agreed, hell, f.. the money Im here on holiday and sitting to a real stunner, lets call her Jay..
We chat a bit and I told her frankly I barfined a gurl thenight before and she wasnt gud at all. She sleep all night, speak no words and if I hadnt kick her out the next day, she would be still around.
She then told me she dont go barfine, only barhop. Oh well, seems to me Im unlucky again with my object of desire, but she was a real beauty and I enjoyed her company so I keep on drinkin with her in dollhouse and had no plans to push things. My eyes catched attention of a korean guy staring all the time to us. Then the waitress comes with a LD Gatorate, the guy spent "my gurl" a drink. She told me this guy spent her evry day a drink and he is her friend, bu tsh enever go with him, neithe rbarhop nor anything else.
Not sure if it was one of the beers or somehing else, but I don tlike if some dude have to spent a gurl with whom I sit and having a chat spending drinks. So I grabbed the Gatorate, looked at him, smiled and drink it infront of his eyes, ignoring his attempts to exlpain me it was meant for Jay. Hell, I know, I was drunk but not that drunk and that kind of stupid. jay was blushing and giggling but I dont care. I think enough gurls around, no need to do that, If I see a nice gurl sitting with some other guy, I wait until he left and then talk to her if Im intersted...
anyway, that guy hates me, useless to say he didnt do that again. More on that later.
I was in a party mood and ask mama san to barfine the gurl, she say only barhop no barfine. I say, ok, lets see, pay the fine and up we went to blue nile executive where I use d to hang out, cause not a pushy place and I like the atmosphere also the papa san daddy bruce is ok and recognized me when I walked in with my chaperon.
I ordered tequila, cause I know one of the tequila gurls. My gurl had san miguel light and also joined me with drinkin. It was really fun, bruce came by and spent us some sambooka and Im not sure how it happens, but suddenly I found myself lips on lips with Jay and we start kissing. First lips to lips then more intimate. She seems to be suprised, she told me Im her first western guy and she never did that before....We had some more drinks and it was a realy nice atmosphere. I walked her back to Dollhouse early monring and she told me , the next day she will stay with me. To make things short. I was next day again in dollhouse, we had some drinks , she introduced me to her ate and ask me if I could barfine her also. She is, like her from san fernando and she is going home evry day after work, because she had a baby who to take care of. I agrred and the auntie told me, that her niece gets wild when she have some drinks , lol, useless to say I bought her some drinks then,eheheehe....Up we went to my hotel, the auntie stayed just five minutes and found me ok to stay with her niece and up she went.
I dont like to get in details but she took gud care of me. She was 19 years young, fantastic body and a real stunner. I was really to going like her, I had a cough at night and evrytime I was coughin , she woke up , rubbed my chest to make the cough go away. Now what kind of westenr woman woudl do that??? I guess I rather would get a slap over my face then somebody will rub my chest to make me comfortable.
She stayed until late after noon , then I get a trike for her which brings her to her dorm hosue , where she could a little rest slep and then prepared for Dollhouse again. At 7pm my cp rings and I get txt mesages, that she is missing me and I should go there now to see her.
I decided to do that, but I wanted to go to roadhouse before, still happy hour and I liked the music and the atmosphere. I ordered 2 beers and received 4, guess I ordered one more and ended up with 6 cause of the happy hour.
I received another txt from Jay , asking where I am and I should go there now she is missing me. So up I went there again, paid some drinks, paid bar and went to cambodia to meet up a fried over there. On the way to the bar she told me she have a filipino bf, lol, didnt suprise me, I mean she looks gourgeous. We stopped at the Lion, or orange Lion hotel , we walked inside and she showed me her bf LOL, a guard, ahahaha, I thought she was joking, so I had some beer drinks allready and I told the guy that Im her bf now. Off we go and I think I got some killer looks behind me, hehehehe. Next day I thought, dam , you shouldnt do that, the locals dont like us anyway , but they sure dont like us tosteal their gf, hehehehe...
Now, Im being around some times in PI, but I never experienced that a gurl introduced me to her filipino bf. Never!! Ever!!
When we went back to my hotel, she got a lot of txt. Then she asked me go home ealr ymonring, cause her bf wait for her to bring her home, she got to know him from skytrax disco and he allways brought her home after work.
I told her suprisingly that I thought Im her bf now and she start crying and she agreed finally to stay, Guys Im not a blind about Angels city and the bola2 going on there, but I think this gurl was different. She said not all bargurls are bad, and she can survive with barhop and only one time a month go barfine if she likes the customer. she sent all her money home to get her 2 sisters tru school and she tells me, she needs love not money, which makes me lik eher more, cause I also heard that first time from a gurl.
Useless to say that I spent my whole time with her, I became her bf, I did give her some parfume which I brought from dubai back from dubai and she was very happy about that. This time it was quite hard to leave AC, cause I will miss this gurl, she told me she wil wait for me until I come back, but I told her we keep in touch and I have no doubts that she has to eanr and go with guys, I offered her some other work, but she really enjoy dolhouse.
Now iMback in my country, she someties go to the cafe and chat me up, she allways txt me , call me or misscall me, telllin me what she did and that she ok when sh eback at her dormhouse with her co workers. She never asked for any money, neither given me some soap stories. I think she really likes me.
Im in a kind of trouble now, cause I have a another gf in la union, goin to collegue. On my last trip I couldnt see her, how could I?? When you come home to ur room around 4 am evry day and then have something with ur other gf, how can you make it to be on the fly the bus on 9 am goin to la union, impossible for me. I also like her very much, givin her some excuses for not showing up and promise to be there next time.
As of now, my gf from DH callin me evry day and also want to pick up me from airport in Manila.
So why Im tellin you guys my story? Well, I have to say about this board its a reference for gud information, but a refernece only. Evrybody has to make his own experience how things work out in the PI.Evrybody here has his own opinion about bars, bargurls etc.
Dollhouse is mention as a rip offplace many times. I have to agree that they think they most better than other bars, but as you can see on my story, you can also find a real jewel there, like I did which made my stay unforgetable and makes me lookin forward to my next trip in July....
happy hunting!!!
Blink
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]Very well said. You are right in that popular belief is that prostitution is driven by poverty, which it is not. We look around and see poverty and all the prostitutes, and we connect the two, but that is wrong. It has much more to do with income discrpancies, then poverty. For example, lets say the USA had no anti-prostitution laws. If wealthy foreigners came in offering a months salary for one fuck, you would be amazed at how many "regular" girls would take up the offer.
It is like China. I went there recently and was very dissapointed at how few cute prostitutes I could find. 10 years ago, when the economy was quite different, they were everywhere (at least that is what I was told). So I told my friend "now that everyone has money, all the prostitutes have gone". But he corrected my and asked if I checked out the high end KTV places. "not really" I said "it can cost several hundred USD to take out a cute girl from one of those places". "Exactly", he says, "they are just more expensive".
So I thought about it. There are hundreds of those place, but they were out of my budget. Prostitution in China has not disappeared. It has just moved into more comfortable surroundings.
I am from the US. I am in the Philippines because the Philippines is so inexpensive for the hobby. If I was rich, I could have more beautiful prostitutes in the USA then I could fuck in a hundred lifetimes. Did you ever notice how the vast majority of mongerers out here are middle class working folk. Why aren't all the rich jetsetters out here taking advantage of all the girls driven to prostitution "due to poverty"? . Because they are too busy paying a $1, 000 a night to prostitutes in their own contry who are also "driven to prostitution by poverty"[/QUOTE]
I was told this by a Filipino ***** at Best ladies in Chatswood , Sydney.
" Most of the women working here are heroin users". Just my two cents worth. It came about because i kicked this spanish looker out of my room for poor performance and asked Laine about her later on.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello guys,
Im back to normal life and just wana give some info about my last trip to the Philippines.
happy hunting!!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
Blink, what is your home country? Thanks for the reports....
Thats a nice report for your experience there in the philippines. But I don't think that the girl Jay really love you just in a short time to stay with you. I totaly agree girls in the philippines are so nice!! Anyway, hope to read your next report :)
[QUOTE=Dafacer]Blink, what is your home country? Thanks for the reports....[/QUOTE]
Hi,
IM a german sheppard.
Happy hunting!!
Blink
[QUOTE=Danny 2003]Thats a nice report for your experience there in the philippines. But I don't think that the girl Jay really love you just in a short time to stay with you. I totaly agree girls in the philippines are so nice!! Anyway, hope to read your next report :)[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I know I know, I have to say I know the bola2 going on in PI and I dont look like Brad Pitt either, but calls and txt message and miscalls evry day since I left the PI show me, she must somehow liked me....I have no doubts there are alsoo other guys aroud, thats her job , but I think Im under the top 10. I had a gud time with her and I will have again when Im back.
Happy hunting
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]After a few beers I check Dollhouse. I have to say Dollhouse seems to be a rip off. Gurls are stuck up. If you have a gurl sit next to you, they ask for san miguel light, which is more expensive then a normal LD. I think about 300p, more or less.
But sometimes, they have some real cuties there. This evening one of the doorgurls catched my attention. Korean looks and frim sexy body from what I saw. I literally had to chase her, grab her by the arms and we went to a place to sit down. She ask me for a a LD, san migel, I agreed, hell, f.. the money Im here on holiday and sitting to a real stunner, lets call her Jay..
Blink[/QUOTE]Fantastic report you had there. Enjoy reading it very much.
LD at DH for Sm light is 250 pesos. I bought a few there the last trip :P
Blink, thanks for the post. Enjoyed reading it, but you must be one bad mother to do what you did. Most Korean men end up in the K. military and I can assure you they can kick some ass. Yea, he was wrong to do what he did, but "your" girl made money off the deal.
I wish someone would buy my girl-of-the-moment a drink so that I could save money.
As for the security guard, umm, did he have a gun?
Someone has said that DH pads the bill, in which case that is a ripoff. Charging high prices may SEEM like a ripoff, but technically it isn't. Whenever I was in DH the waitress clearly told me the price of the Gatorade before I bought one for the girl. Now, I tend to ask anyway, but after hitting the bar three or four times I knew the price and was willing to pay it. THe waitresses ALWAYS warned me about the price. Seems pretty honest to me.
My bill wasn't padded.
Also, you said the "girls are stuck up". Since you spent most of the time with one girl from DH, may I ask how many OTHER girls you talked to.
I'm not trying to start a confrontation, just want you to clarify your observations.
I had both good and mediocre experiences at DH - just like you. See photo section for one of the good experiences. While I was taking pictures, a lady in regular clothes came up to me to tell me I was talking pictures of her "friend". I gave her my card, but no go with that one. I had fun though.
X Man
I had my second AC visit in March. I stayed at Amsterdam where I stayed before. I think it is a good value compared to Wild Orchid except there is too much noise from Karaoke from the street behind the hotel.
Everyone is different in how to enjoy their time in AC. I tend to buy LD's and enjoy the company including older mamasan. Once you start buying LD's they keep pestering me beyond being fun. How do you stop them from swarming you and still have fun buying 5-6 LD's maximum?
I was playing pool with a couple of girls at DH and next thing I know there are 5-6 girls sitting at my table. After buying each a LD, I had to rush to choose a girl to bf and get out of there. Funny thing is, the girl I picked is the one I barfined on my first trip to AC and the peformance was sub par. She remembered me also and, this time, she performed very well.
In this 4 day trip, I tried facial massage at the shopping mall (recommended), Imee massage (recommended), Casino (not recommended- no blackjack tables), Karaoke (I had fun with the girls but sorry for the noise, fellow mongers) and Sky Trax Disco. Two girls I barfined (two separate nights) were 19 and 20 yo and they asked me to go to disco. I had a lot of fun with them and their friends until early morning. My mistake was not remembering I am not 20's anymore.
On my last evening at AC, I found a stunner at Cambodia at around 9PM. My flight out of Clark was 1AM and I figure I had almost 3 hours and had to take her to my room for the last pleasure. She turned out to be the best looking, body and performance as she was getting so wet. And my little bro was finally out of commission after 30 min. Life is so cruel...
Then again, there is always the next trip. Life is good and I'll be back.
Thanks for all the information on this board!
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Tahoe, You are right that you can have much more fun with the girls if you buy ladies Drinks.
Everyone has the same problem, and I do not yet know if I have ever perfected the best was to deal with the problem but here are a couple of things I do depending on which bar I am in. Also it depends on how fast you want to get rid of the girls, you can always leave. Ladies Drinks, and cutting down the size of the crowd around you.
A. Get the girl you really like on your lap. Tell the other girls you are a nipple guy. I will buy ladies drinks for the girl (one) who has best nipple and shows them to me. (usually thins the crowd a little) Ha ha but you will have to buy someone a drink
B. Also my girl tells me not to worry about the girls so much. Be direct and tell the girls you can not afford so many drinks. I only want (point to the girls you want to buy drinks) and the rest of you will have to leave ok?
C. When I am just bar hoppin and looking at the girls. When a girl comes up to me, no matter who she is and ask if I will buy her a drink, I tell her only if she lets me see her nipples. This sets the tone for everything that follows. If she does not show them, then of course I know I would have been wasteing my time.
D if I am in a really naughty bar, I thin the crowd out buy doing the same thing but asking them to show their pussy.
E. Just Remember, these girls are poor. They are trying their best to make money but they also understand when you do not have money.
Hope this helps,
Wade
Hey Tahoe,
I know what you mean about the noise in the Royal Amsterdam at night from the karaoke.
However, I thought that was an advantage. It meant that whenever I was about to fall asleep and waste my barfine time, the noise woke me up. It was quiet during the day, so I got plenty of sleep then. (I had room 218).
For multi LDs, I did lots of 'experimenting'. In one place, I tried paying for lots of LDs and as well as for the mamasan. That was fun but expensive. But it did provide a party atmosphere to the place while it lasted. Worth a try. I then (in another bar) just ignored the girls trying to entice me until I saw one I liked then called her over. That worked too. Those ignored soon got the message. That was the cheapest, but not much of a party atmosphere out of it. I also did a variation of that where I picked one girl for a drink, sussed out her friendliness, and then said to her that I would buy a drink for one or two of her friends if she wanted. That worked, and was not as expensive as all out drink buying. In another place there were two gorgeous girls vying for my attention, so I said to them. You decide who gets the lady drink. They did a scissor-paper-rock and I sat out the winner with a LD. The variations are endless, and you can have a lot of fun. Another place I played 'cheap charlie' for two drinks (non-alcoholic), ignoring the girls who sat next to me till they went away. I then called down the best looking 'dancer' bought her a drink and then five of her friends. The rest of them did not know what to make of me at all. LOL!
LOL
Glad to know that I am not the only one thinking about LDs and thanks for the tips. I just might use one or two. One observation I made in limiting LDs was to go to bars with a friend/wingman. As they sit together and talk, girls tend to wait and see and can only surround you in a half circle. I don't mean to use mathematical method to limit the LDs but couldn't help it. hahaha. I was solo on my trips and, when I was in a party mood, I would be completely surrounded. Couple girls were massaging my neck and shoulder but never saw their faces even after buying them LDs.
I still enjoy creating a party atmosphere once in a while. You just can't do that in every bar. I also buy LDs for not so good looking girls. They can be fun and sometimes help breaking the ice for the girl I bf if they are friends. Besides, don't we need to support these not so popular girls in AC bars? You have to have supporting cast as well as the stars in a movie. Sometimes you get ripped off by taxi drivers, etc. but villains play role too.
I know the people in AC are not a good representation of typical philipinos but there are many good people/girls. Can't wait til I get back.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Hey Tahoe,
I know what you mean about the noise in the Royal Amsterdam at night from the karaoke.
However, I thought that was an advantage. It meant that whenever I was about to fall asleep and waste my barfine time, the noise woke me up. It was quiet during the day, so I got plenty of sleep then. (I had room 218).
For multi LDs, I did lots of 'experimenting'. In one place, I tried paying for lots of LDs and as well as for the mamasan. That was fun but expensive. But it did provide a party atmosphere to the place while it lasted. Worth a try. I then (in another bar) just ignored the girls trying to entice me until I saw one I liked then called her over. That worked too. Those ignored soon got the message. That was the cheapest, but not much of a party atmosphere out of it. I also did a variation of that where I picked one girl for a drink, sussed out her friendliness, and then said to her that I would buy a drink for one or two of her friends if she wanted. That worked, and was not as expensive as all out drink buying. In another place there were two gorgeous girls vying for my attention, so I said to them. You decide who gets the lady drink. They did a scissor-paper-rock and I sat out the winner with a LD. The variations are endless, and you can have a lot of fun. Another place I played 'cheap charlie' for two drinks (non-alcoholic), ignoring the girls who sat next to me till they went away. I then called down the best looking 'dancer' bought her a drink and then five of her friends. The rest of them did not know what to make of me at all. LOL![/QUOTE]
I am pretty much the same way. I have a couple of bars where I have friends and I'll spend money. I'll also get rounds from the papasan. Other places, I am just another cheap charlie.
[QUOTE=Any Hole]Yeah I tell everybody phills so cheap, so why do I always go back to england with no holliday money left!
I think the trouble is you can easily get sucked into the drinking/playing pool/multiple bar fines syndrome, and what with taking the lady out for meals ect, suddenly you realize cash burn!
But the life in ac is like dysneyland for us mongers so you just have to try everything you can, so I would set a budget of around $120. 00 per day.
I have found out that if you have a long time bar fine with a girl, you end up spending little money, as the girls I have been with have always advised me if I was being ripped off for anything I was buying.
Fuck the expense, just enjoy![/QUOTE]
There is a saying in AC, "Everyone arrives rich, but leaves poor".
I always go there with a good budget, but then I start barfining 2-3 girls a day and oops!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Excluding hotel I usually burn 3-4k pesos per day.
Around 55 Euros. (1Euro=64ps, 1USD=47.3ps)
Enjoy![/QUOTE]
I usually end up spending $125 us not including hotel. But I usually do a side trip to Subic or Cebu also.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
I know I know, I have to say I know the bola2 going on in PI and I dont look like Brad Pitt either, but calls and txt message and miscalls evry day since I left the PI show me, she must somehow liked me....I have no doubts there are alsoo other guys aroud, thats her job , but I think Im under the top 10. I had a gud time with her and I will have again when Im back.
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]If one thing I have learn't about these girls is never ever ever think that she thinks of only you with special affection when it comes to texting.
These girls have got it down to a art form, the only way you could tell if she has something special for you, is next time you see her ask to see her cell phone, and yahoo email account, I can almost guarantee you will find many many guys just like you!
Its a kind of grooming for these girls they let you think you are special to them , and soon you will get the story about how the mother is un well. or her younger brother is in hospital, ect ect, and then before you know you are sending her money on western union and she has you hooked.
Its happened to me with 4 different girls, yeah I admit it I have been a right stupid sucker in the past, but now I think, I have chosen the right girl, I have seen her email account, she had 7 guys sending her money, but i forgot to ask her for her cell phone, that will be her little suprise next time I see her.
[QUOTE=Any Hole]If one thing I have learn't about these girls is never ever ever think that she thinks of only you with special affection when it comes to texting.
These girls have got it down to a art form, the only way you could tell if she has something special for you, is next time you see her ask to see her cell phone, and yahoo email account, I can almost guarantee you will find many many guys just like you!
Its a kind of grooming for these girls they let you think you are special to them , and soon you will get the story about how the mother is un well. or her younger brother is in hospital, ect ect, and then before you know you are sending her money on western union and she has you hooked.
Its happened to me with 4 different girls, yeah I admit it I have been a right stupid sucker in the past, but now I think, I have chosen the right girl, I have seen her email account, she had 7 guys sending her money, but i forgot to ask her for her cell phone, that will be her little suprise next time I see her.[/QUOTE]
Heehehe,
I have to say I also made mistakes in the past, but never have sent any money to bargurls, but I did that with regular gf I had, but since I have business and I know this gurls better I stop this also and just have a gf when Im in town, which means I spend only money for the real thing. Oversea relation with those "gurls" can only lead to one thing..SUPPORT!!
This gurl I dated from DH never got any money from me, when I barfine her I pay the bar, gave her 500p extra the next day and pay the trike, also paid the food when she eat with me. Until now she txt me, miscall me and she dont ask anything, She told me when Im in Manila she will go there to pick me up, doesnt matter to her what time IM arriving.
I have to say Im long time around and seldom experienced this one.
By the way Xmen, thanks for your concern about the guard and the korean military guys, but we germans are mean and scary. You should see the latest WWII movie Flyboys were we potrayed there as mean scums , ehehehehe...so dont wory about me bro..besides my so caled gf told me the guy also wanted to make her drunk and wanted to barfine her, but she declined and say ty for the drinks, she is a pro drinker LOL, 10 to 12 san miguel plus other drinks is normal to her during a night. Besides , she knwos the guy i smarried and have filipina wife and baby. As you see this gurls know really evrything wht happen in the bar. when Im there she allways give me updates what happpen from the gurls. There is one gurl workin there, she really loks gorgeous also, she is a dancer, but show gurl, shoulder length hair, about 5"4 and really gud looking..but I cant do anything then only smile when I see her. The only hope I have is, that she might also into gurls and we have a 3 some LOL.
Off the topic a bit, I saw yesterday an old movie in TV with Burt reynolds about a treasure hunt in. Movie was playing in the PHils. wow they show MH de pillar, Manila bay (really clean) and the street also clean. It really look nice to see how Manila and PI was during the 60`s.
Happy hunting!!
Blink
Hello all,
I shall be returning to AC yet again from May 15-21. If anyone else is in town at that time, let's grab a beer!
I'll also try to post up some new reports while I'm there; I had so much fun I neglected to last time!
And a note to all those hotel seekers; I like to stay at the Apartelle Royal (above Camelot, right on Fields Avenue). If you don't need a pool or a restaurant on-site, I think it's a great place. Huge quiet rooms, nice staff, even the guards and housekeepers are friendly. My room is US27.50 per night, and they have an executive suite (it has a kitchen, but that's really the only difference) for $40. If you're super cheap, these are quality rooms right in the middle of the action.
Saying this, the only other places I've stayed in are the Royal Amsterdam (too noisy due to the karaoke bars right behind) and L Tinio's (behind Insomnia - very cheap, but incredibly shabby and didn't feel safe). I've never been able to get reservations at the other mid-range hotels due to the short notice timerange of my vacation planning.
With the budget conversations going on, I wanted to add my 2 pesos that I rarely spend over 4000 pesos a day, *including* my hotel. My day goes like this:
- hotel fee
- short time or massage in the afternoon
- lunch/dinner
- go to a bar/club, find a girl, enjoy!
Of course, if I decide to create a party atmosphere, it might cost a little more, but I can also spend less; on a quiet night, I'll go to the small patio bars down past Blueberry Hill, etc (it's the side street after Santos St if you're looking towards Perimeter). They look like Santos St bars, but it's very laid back and low-key. If you just want to sit back in the night air and talk to girls with no pressure for LDs or ST or BF, but of course to get one if you want, these are the place to go.
More soon!
~Crazy Ami
[QUOTE=Blink157]... which means I spend only money for the real thing ... Oversea relation with those "gurls" can only lead to one thing ... SUPPORT!![/QUOTE]
Wisely done, Blink157! And in terms of an "overseas relationship" you hit the nail on the head! The great and famous philosopher Ekspat used to say once: "play and pay, that's ok!" There is nothing more to add! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Crazy Ami, I am in AC. PM and let me know when and where for the beer.
Doc
[QUOTE=Blink157]Oversea relation with those "gurls" can only lead to one thing..SUPPORT!!..[/QUOTE]You guys being there now, hope you know how lucky you are. Oh, it's so hard not to get involved!
After 3 years I now and then still see this from Manila [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=539505&postcount=271[/url].
I gave a nice present for X-mas, and she still want me to come back...and give more I guess.
But then is of my gf last times in AC. She was a cherry-girl in a bar, proven, and gave it to me next visit :)
I of course paid here a very nice present, and she stopped working in bar. But after a couple of months she needs money again, but are shy to ask directly. Girls is funny, I talk to here regularly, I dont want her to go back to bar.
Yes, I guess she looks at me as her escape from there. But what can I do, this girl around 20 aiming at me in the end of 30's? Maybe I send here some money, I feel for it.
Hmm, anyway I better go there again, very soon!
Well I just left AC and will have pictures here once I get back to states. I just don't know how to begin. All I can say is sex now is the furthest thing from my mind. Way to much but I am sure once I get back to the states I will have the blues. As I have stated in last report I was there in February. Several girls from Champayne inlove with me and I stayed in contact with them from February till I came bak this month. Problem is I wanted friends and what do I get instead they all claim I am theirs, When I came back this month the dramatics started. I made my first mistake in helping one girl there get surgery where she had cyst on her breast. Yes it was not a ploy to get money for I know she did get the surgery needed. Now she claims I am hers when I never asked to be. Make matters worse an 18 year old there whom I talked to regularly via internet claims she is mine. Needless to say I am not very popular right now at Champayne. Well problem #2 I fell in love (yes I did) with a girl I met in the mall in Manila at Robinsons. She worked there at perfume stand. Asked her out and she said no three consecutive days. Finally got her the fourth day. Finally slept with her 4 days later and OMG this nice conservative girl was a freak in bed. Anyway crazy maybe but I am keeping her. My full report without the soap oparah will come when I am back in the states.
So true. I can't understand how some guys get wrapped up into sending these girls money from overseas. Compensate them fairly for their services and move on. Its like sending your plumber money every month after you've already paid him for fixing your toilet. Who in their right mind would do that?
The record I've seen is one girl in AC had seven different guys overseas sending her money every month. Amazing.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]The great and famous philosopher Ekspat used to say once: "play and pay, that's ok!" There is nothing more to add! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
A girl I have know for a long time..no bargirl..she is a nurse there have decided to get married. She worked in the US for a while that is how we met and she doesn't have to marry me to get here being a nurse. Anyway, she lives near Alaminos in N. Luzon. I figure the closest place for her to get a US passport photo is in Angeles. Does anyone know where and could you give directions please.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard] It is like sending your plumber money every month after you've already paid him for fixing your toilet. [/QUOTE]
Soju Lizard:
Indeed a superb analogy! Very funny - I like it! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]So true. I can't understand how some guys get wrapped up into sending these girls money from overseas. .. Its like sending your plumber money every month after you've already paid him for fixing your toilet. Who in their right mind would do that?[/QUOTE]hehe...I like that analogy, but there are different versions.
For me it's like the plumber gave me his left hand without asking money. But I gave him some although. Now a couple of months later he need money because he cannot work. Yea, a man in his right mind should concider sending money...
Sorry for off-topic.
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[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]So true. I can't understand how some guys get wrapped up into sending these girls money from overseas. Compensate them fairly for their services and move on. Its like sending your plumber money every month after you've already paid him for fixing your toilet. Who in their right mind would do that?
The record I've seen is one girl in AC had seven different guys overseas sending her money every month. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,
I know the story to. Some guys get to close to a girl, start some kind of relationship with them and want to get the girls to stop the work they do and find other jobs. The guys usually want to see the girls again and see that they approve in getting a new life and maybe a life as the future wife of the guys who give the money to the girls. The money the guys give is some development money. The guys don't give to charity anymore because they found new charity, the Philppine bargirls.
I've been such a guy to, try to get the bargirl outof the bar and i really did my best, but sorry, no luck at all, and the girl was so nice. For the guys who give money now from overseas, time will tell and they will learn as well. I agree, give the girl after service some extra money and leave it by that. No more.
Greeting, im coming to Angeles end of May till end of June to check out the girls in the bar and the new changes since my last visit October 2005.
See ya,
Beat Pro
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]So true. I can't understand how some guys get wrapped up into sending these girls money from overseas. Compensate them fairly for their services and move on. Its like sending your plumber money every month after you've already paid him for fixing your toilet. Who in their right mind would do that?
The record I've seen is one girl in AC had seven different guys overseas sending her money every month. Amazing.[/QUOTE]I agree,
Dont give to much money to the girls and don''t send any money from overseas.
Beat Pro
Middle of last month I as in Geckos Bar and bf a waitress called Verlyne.
I have lost her cell and am going back in 2 weeks.
I wonder if anyone can tell me if she is still there.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Seadoo
I met a nice girl in a permimeter bar in January and took her to Subic the next day. not as much fun as bar hopping but shes a nice girl. we actually share the same birthday which bought us together. different years of course.
We have been talking on skype for some time since i left. anyhow she was sick and from the conversations we were having at the time she needed medication but she wasnt asking me for any money. a couple more days went by and she got worse.
I rang her and asked her for her full name and sent her 2k pesos thru western union. after she picked up the money and got better she sent me the doctors certificate and sms's thanking me for my help. she was so thankful. it turned out she had phumonia(sp) and when i arrive in manila next month im going straight to cebu and missing angeles this trip.
She will meet me at cebu airport and im going to spoil her with 2 nights at the newly opened Parklane hotel then we are going to take a bus to her province in the north of cebu island and celebrate our birthdays together there with her family. she is preparing our room there now.
only thing im worried about here is how her family will feel about me sleeping with their daughter/sister/neice/cousin etc. She has told me she needs me there cos last birthday she was horny and wanted sex but had to help herself.
I just hope her family doesnt expect me to marry her, well not yet anyhow as im still officially married to a cebuano in nz, seperated for 3 years now and dont really want to settle down with anyone yet.
i have another 2 gf's in Bangkok so theres not going to be much oportunity to butterfly this coming trip but this girl in cebu im going to speak to her before going to her province. i just dont want her family to have initial high expectations of me and if im not comfortable i wont go.
In May 2007 I spent three weekday nights at the 24 room Swiss Chalet Hotel and two weekend nights at the gaudy Angeles Beach Club Hotel with its 20 per cent off rack rates promo.
Apart from an inability to conduct telephone conversations in-room(you have to visit reception to place or receive local or international calls, which is annoying and intrusive), I could not fault the Swiss Chalet.
My deluxe room for P1780 per night was not just large. The bed was firm, the linen immaculate, the airconditioning (as promised by the website) silent and the bathroom sparkling, with a good constant flow of hot water.
In short, owner Hans Hoffman has not only spent the dollars on quality fittings, but more importantly he maintains them properly. But the pice de la resistance in this sweet-tooth's opinion would have to be the glace meringue dessert on offer at the hotel restaurant: a sugary concotion of meringue, cream and both vanilla and (yuk!) chocolate ice cream, all for P185. The mains were homely in style: one night, 25 people were eating in the restaurant at 2130 hours. No wonder the Swiss Chalet's 12 rooms have become 24: only one of the two suites were vacant, and none of the 22 rooms. Book ahead!
As anyone RTFF will know, the ABC Hotel perhaps does not belong in Angeles. It is a strange creature, although as one might expect for a discounted minimum tariff of US$95 per night, the fittings are sumptuous. Not only are there two Chesterfields in even the cheapest rooms, but the bed is probably a King and the bathrooms have two vanity basins, a bath and a shower at minimum. There are even two Ottomans to rest weary feet!
On the Friday I was there, a seven-contestant beauty pageant was being hosted by a noisy American, but it ceased at 2300. When I arrived, the hotel staff tried to give me a front, street-facing room. Even with the double galzing, a little noise entered, so I quickly decamped and asked for another room. The efficient staff quickly gave me Room 138 overlooking the pool. Despite a two-floor stair climb, I couldn't fault the room.
Both hotels are GF, to state the obvious.
The pool at ABC is excellent: the curvature adds interest, and the water temperature is just right.
However, ABC's breakfast is skimpy. I was informed I could not have both cereal, one glass of juice and pancakes without the latter food being charged to my account. Staffing in the restaurant recently reduced from 18 to nine, with some staff being told with no notice that they no longer had a job. That stinks!
The Wild Orchid Resort's bar is excellent, being staffed by attractively attired Filipinas varying from a 6 to an 8: the food is acceptable, at about P400 or so for a main. Patronage of the restaurant was light: the bar, heavier.
I recommend hiring a taxi to visit Mt Arayat National Park, 32km from the jeepney and taxi area not far from SM Clark and across through the wet markets from ABC Hotel. I negotiated to P1500 including a half hour stay, but suspect the driver may have done the return trip for P1000.
SM Clark has many dining options. One Chinese restaurant adjacent to the Congo Grille is excellent, and CG serves a reasonable halo-halo if you like sugary Filipino desserts.
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The Honeypot bar has an absolute stunner of a tequila girl, Crystal, aged about 25, with finge like hair. She was dressed in a white 'police' uniform, and spoke excellent English. Unfortunately while I met her at 2000 hours one night in May 2007, I had to return to my hotel. When I went back at 2200, she had gone home 'sick' (allegedly).
At Thi-Hi, Olive was 28 (she'd had one child) and dressed attractively in black suspenders. After one round at the ABC Hotel, she claimed she needed to sleep. I convinced her to undertake 'seconds' and she went home after four hours, at 0030. Service about a 6, and price P1000 with no demands for taxi fares or tips.
At Champagne, I drank alone at a bar stool for 20 minutes without being hassled.
One bar adjacent (Anglicised name, apologies for my forgetfulness) had a pool table but little else happening: six bored dancers and two other customers.
Lancelot was crowded but not my scene, with no apparent stunners, and Illusions was just that.
[QUOTE=AsiaFloyd]
only thing im worried about here is how her family will feel about me sleeping with their daughter/sister/neice/cousin etc. She has told me she needs me there cos last birthday she was horny and wanted sex but had to help herself.
I just hope her family doesnt expect me to marry her, well not yet anyhow as im still officially married to a cebuano in nz, seperated for 3 years now and dont really want to settle down with anyone yet.[/QUOTE]
AF you can bet your sweet ass they will expect you to marry her and likely so will she. Just MOHO from having lived in PI for 7 years.
ES
Mates,
Having done the aftermath for one week of AC early May,
I came along with somewhat 60 Euro per day.
Tons of fun, I love the low season!
Wow, just seen banking rate of Peso is 46.0,
how much do the money changer give nowadays?
45.8 for a greenback?
I still got 64 for the Euro.
Btw, talked with a gal in Dollhouse,
she told me being 19. Two years (!) in AC already.
Me surprised, what??
Yeah, correct, she started somewhere in Fields at the age of 17.
Just FYI.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Fish N Chips]Hey Gents got a question
First time to this part of the forum, I have been a LOS guy but think I'll try PHP soon.
Question #1
In preparation for this adventure I would like to get a list of Hotels/w price. My preference is econo (3star), that is it must have AC be bug free, clean and in reasonable vicinity to the action, if wireless is available assume!!!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Tiger Hotel. Clean, new, wifi/wired (even free PC stations). All the basics AC/Cable etc. 1000 P/night -10% weekly prepaid rate.Walking distance if you're not an immobilised fatso, even closer to Fields than ABC hotel (by a few yards, I have measured ;) )
Got wind today Neros was shut down and girls areesested and brought to manila. Anyone hear about this, My good friend at Lollipop informed me that they were rounding up girls from street in front thinking they worked there as well. Anyone know what the deal is. I just got back into states going to write report wwhen I got text from friend. I was just in Neros last week too.
Hi to all,
yesterday Blue Nile, Neros and bedrock got raided by NBI, mama sans and gurls have been taken away.
Guess somebody needs money. Of course if you look for some trouble you will find one, like minors, wearing no id etc...guess other bars of the blue nile group stay alert.
Mongers arent alowed to go into and gues those ones who were in stay in until they whole show was over.
Happy hunting
Blink
Hi,
Has anyone heared about other bars that are closed to? And also girls arrested. Also anyone hear that a bar was opened and that the police come and close the bar and the customer inside was maybe arrested to.
I'm gonna check out soon. Tuesday 29 May i'm in Angeles too for 4 weeks.
Thanks,
Beat Pro
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
yesterday Blue Nile, Neros and bedrock got raided by NBI, mama sans and gurls have been taken away.
Blink[/QUOTE]
They all looked closed last night. No lights on. The only Blue Nile Group bar that was open from my view was Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Key Master]They all looked closed last night. No lights on. The only Blue Nile Group bar that was open from my view was Cambodia.[/QUOTE]
A quite scary incidence! Does anybody know now the actual reason why the police made such a damn trouble?
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Does anybody know now the actual reason why the police made such a damn trouble?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Election time is over. New standards need to be set?
It must be a great time to be in AC. There must be a lot of unemployed ladies strolling the streets, crowding the net cafes, window shopping at the mall.
Can anyone with feet on the ground give us a report other than a few gaudy bars are closed for the week.
X Man
My friend at Dirty Duck wrote to me the other night regarding the raid:
And the bad news is, there is a raid in Blue Nile,Neros Bar and Bed rock.They said there is a party tonight and there is a show,naked girls. Maybe someone give a tip to the NBI that there is show in that bar.So it was so happened that NBI raid them. Many girls arrest,including the bar tender,mamasan,the manager all staff and maybe they gonna bring them in Manila Camp Crame.Its really too bad especially for the girls who didnt do the show dance.
I talk to my friend at Lolipop today. She said it was really quiet for a few days but is picking back up again. I heard that alot of Cam girls have been arrested and shut down too. Girls are really freaking out she said. Can you imagine the economic impact this must be having on the hotels there because I heard that alot of Mongers have headed elsewhere this week. Some one somewhere is flexing muscle since election is over. I left last week and had a blast, looks like I left on time. Anyone still there able to give us an update?
Got word that bars are open.
[QUOTE=AsiaFloyd]I met a nice girl in a permimeter bar in January and took her to Subic the next day. not as much fun as bar hopping but shes a nice girl. we actually share the same birthday which bought us together. different years of course.
We have been talking on skype for some time since i left. anyhow she was sick and from the conversations we were having at the time she needed medication but she wasnt asking me for any money. a couple more days went by and she got worse.
I rang her and asked her for her full name and sent her 2k pesos thru western union. after she picked up the money and got better she sent me the doctors certificate and sms's thanking me for my help. she was so thankful. it turned out she had phumonia(sp) and when i arrive in manila next month im going straight to cebu and missing angeles this trip.
She will meet me at cebu airport and im going to spoil her with 2 nights at the newly opened Parklane hotel then we are going to take a bus to her province in the north of cebu island and celebrate our birthdays together there with her family. she is preparing our room there now.
only thing im worried about here is how her family will feel about me sleeping with their daughter/sister/neice/cousin etc. She has told me she needs me there cos last birthday she was horny and wanted sex but had to help herself.
I just hope her family doesnt expect me to marry her, well not yet anyhow as im still officially married to a cebuano in nz, seperated for 3 years now and dont really want to settle down with anyone yet.
i have another 2 gf's in Bangkok so theres not going to be much oportunity to butterfly this coming trip but this girl in cebu im going to speak to her before going to her province. i just dont want her family to have initial high expectations of me and if im not comfortable i wont go.[/QUOTE]
Cebuano's enjoy sex. When I stayed with a girl in Cebu once, her parents gave us their bed!
firewalker, thanks for the encouragement. hehe.
classroom 2 was raided back in january, spoke to a girl that worked there two weeks ago. she said **** girl in bar did not work in bar and walked into the bar with other customers. classroom 2 is now called honey pot.
Does anyone know if Misty's Bar got raided along with the Blue Nile recently?
I was in AC for the last two weeks and thought the talent level was pretty low. For what remaining beauties were left, they were already arranged to be with regulars before going to work or bar fined pretty quickly in the first hour of opening. I wish I had left a lot earlier. I think it has a lot to do with slow season and a lot of the women just not coming into work though.
Think about it? The really beautiful ones have multiple "sponsors" sending them money each month. They have offers of steady 1. 2 week barfines. They have the Koreans & Japanese offering barfines each evening by 8 pm. Or earlier. What do you think is left after 10 pm?
Angeles City has plenty of beautiful girls. But many are just out of service at times.
Just heard from an employee of the Blue Nile that the reason for the raid was because of several minors doing illegal shows, especially in Neros and Bedrock. Two mamasans and two papasans are still in jail.
Flew into the Philippines and got picked up at the airport by a driver from the Pacific Breeze Hotel. Website: [url]www.pacificbreezehotel.com[/url] Website: [url]www.centralpark-ac.com[/url]
I can’t say enough good things about the hotel. 46 bucks a night for an
excellent room, no chica fee, good cheap computer rental, an excellent restaurant and a great pool. They just sent me an email as it seems I left a few things behind, but not to worry, they are having another guest mail it off once he reaches Gingolandia.
AC is what it is; the strip is there, some nice clubs, all pretty much the same; lots of mediocre dancers and a few stunners, about 30 bucks for TLN. Banged one spinner, who was about 4’8”: and looked very young, but was 25. We stayed 4 nights and took off to Boracay the following Tuesday. Got a BBBJ in the back of one of the older clubs (closer to Main Gate, has panty less Sundays) a club for 10 bucks which was pretty cool just in novelty factor alone. Just the line, “gag, salty C*m” was worth the price of admission.
One piece of advice: Do your own homework. We used a travel agency in AC to schedule the rest of the trip and the outcome was less than optimum. Those road warriors with a laptop or willing to use the hotels computers will be able to their own planning much better.
Lonely Planet Guide was very valuable although somewhat biased against former American military retirees according to their write-ups. It will show you how to save money and avoid headaches.
Boracay: Most beautiful beach that I have seen in a while. P4P is available, I think. The diving was pretty good, but did not partake of the poo-poo platter.
Puerto Galera: Made a major tactical error by flying back to Manila from Boracay and renting a cab to Batangas to get a ferry to Puerto Galera: Best way would have been ferry from Boracay to Batangas and then to PG. Had a scary moment when we had to take the unofficial ferry to Sabangas because we arrived too late. Thought we were having an Shanghi Express moment when we had to be transported to the dock for the unofficial ferry, but other than a scary moment, suffice it to say that a lot of Gringo tax was added to the cost of the ferry ride.
Stayed at the Dream Wave Hotel near Puerto Galera; avoid this hotel at all costs. It should be called the Nightmare Wave. There are plenty of good hotels on the island, but all things being equal, I would stay at Sabangas next time. Dream Wave is a nightmare, no water pressure, Transexual talent show that goes till 1:30 am and crappy restaurant, enough said.
Last night in Manila, checked out LA Girls. Picked out a two some for a short time. I think it set me back fifty bucks. I love the Philippines!
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[QUOTE=AsiaFloyd]firewalker, thanks for the encouragement. hehe.[/QUOTE]
If things are not working well in Province, just have a friend email with bad news. I wouldn't worry too much, Cebuano's have healthy attitude about sex. Just make sure you say you will not even think about marriage before knowing a girl one year.
A few comments from a first-time Angeles City visitor. I'm a typical, 55 y/o average-looking but overweight guy. I have enjoyed the sport primarily in Latin America prior to this visit.
Primary comparison: for the most part, don't expect big titties or skilled sex. It can happen but the odds dramtically favor the Latinas.
I stayed at the Pacific Breeze. A few minor problems but nothing worth noting. The staff is 5-star. The facilities are new & pleasant. Because of prior bookings I stayed in the Admiral's Suite (one friend said it was larger than her house), an Executive Plus room & a Jacuzzi Suite. Overall the Executive Plus rooms are the best deal at $50 a night. Of the six nights I had a jacuzzi at my disposal, it was used only once, though the larger rooms are nice. The Admiral's Suite was $90 & the Jacuzzi Suites $75. It's a short two minute walk to Fields & Santos, in the heart of the action. Food was good to excellent but watch out for buying the juices in the morning. One breakfast for two with several juices was P1000, the next day with one coffee & my own Diet Sprite it was P500 - a savings of nearly $10US. The pool is one of the best in the area & you can order from the bar & eat and/or drink poolside. I will definitely stay there again. The maid was kind enough to move into high gear & replace the sheets & haul away all the evidence when I had an afternoon indescretion with Cherryl an hour and a half before I picked up Honey. We chatted while she was covering my tracks & she became a great asset while I was there.
Bring your laptop & a short ethernet cable. Broadband internet is available for free & it usually worked very well. I only had problems with my regular e-mail client that would immediately log me out on a regular basis, I presume either as a security measure or because the link was broken for a fraction of a second. Stopped off at an internet cafe on Real Street just off Santos and handled all my business for P7 so no big deal.
My observations; I'll try not to state the obvious:
The ride from MNL to the hotel was $50US pre-arranged through the hotel. It took almost two & a half hours in extremely crappy traffic until we hit the freeway. The driver gets about $6 for the round trip. Please tip generously. There are much cheaper alternatives but nothing as convenient.
It's the beginning of the rainy season. Most hotels offer loaner umbrellas or bring your own.
Half the Westerners wore shorts & sandals, half wore jeans or other long trousers & sneakers.
You WILL be jet-lagged. That can be a very good thing since most action is late (Midnight to 5 AM). If you think you're going to pick up a night shift gal at 7PM, have dinner & be asleep by mignight you're sadly mistaken. Thase gals normally go to sleep late becasue they work late. You're going to stay awake longer than you want. Exception: picking a dayshift gal for some afternoon fun. But again, most of the activity is at night.
The San Miguel Pilsner beer is really pretty good. The Lone Star beer sucks. The San Miguel Light beer is fair at best. No bar offers Diet Sprite, Diet Ginger Ale or Diet 7-Up. They all offer Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi. No bar offers Diet Cali (a local pineapple soft drink). Regular Cali is always available, as is sweet tea, colas and mineral water. Mineral water is just bottled water, not that crappy mineral-tasting water you get sometimes in Europe.
There have been several flames regarding the restaurants. I found good food at Mo's (Fields & Santos, a/k/a Kokomo's) and excellent food and service at the little restaurant upstairs next to Pasha, directly above Club Lancelot. The chef is German, speaks fluent English, is a pleasure to talk to & prepares great Chicken Cordon Bleau (not on the menu) and several Flambe's. Most of the girls have never seen flaming Cherries Jubilee or Mango Flambe so it's very likely you'll impress the hell out of them. Dinner for two with a flaming dessert was about P1000.
The Naughty & Nice (N&N) store on Fields (same side as Pasha & Lancelot, just down the road a few hundred feet) offers a pretty good selection of vibrators & other toys. Expect to pay 2 - 4 times the US value. Amazingly, the gals I took there were very open minded, enjoyed looking and talking with the sales girl. Get extra batteries, one of the gals I was with (Honey) originally asked "what's a vibrator?". After I bought her one she wore the damned batteries out in a single sitting.
Exchange some money at the airport so you can tip the driver. The rate's not particularly good & the Dollar is tanking right now. The hotel will also exchange money at a not-so-good rate. The place recommended most by locals is the Tourist Center next to Chow King down near the railroad tracks & the Checkpoint & jeepney terminal. Note that there was a robbery recently of a guy who exchanged a lot of money at a Cambio in broad daylight. local talk is that they guy's girlfriend's boyfriend was involved. Use your head & stow most of your valuables in your in-room safe & limit how much you exchange each day. Seperate the bills so you never flash large amounts. you know - all the common sense stuff.
There are plenty of SWs available on the cheap. Not recommended. I ran into a local ex-pat who was drugged and robbed by one only a few weeks before. If you get a gal from the bars you know who she is. Bar fines or Early Work Releases (EWR) are only P1200 & that'll last you all night. In my case it lasted 24 hours until the next barfine the following night & could have gone on indefinitely had I not wanted variety. Most guys tip P500 or so. I usually tipped P1000 [please keep you're comments that I'm ruining it for everyone else to yourselves].
The starting salary for a dancer or waitress is usually in the P200/week range plus ladies drink (typically P50 each) & EWR commissions. Most live on $200-300US per month. One gal I was with shared a room with other gals & paid P1000 per month for her sleeping space. Consequently, they typically love to sleep over in a nice hotel room.
If you head down the road to Nifty's or Rio's you'll find the area where many/most of the local ex-pats hang out. These are pretty seedy, which can be a good thing. For instance, visit Nifty's, buy a gal three ladies drinks (now you're out about $12US) and get a sample blow job in the back room behind the curtain. I took my gal there one evening and the bar girl had a customer's dick out stroking the hell out of it; didn't even bother to cover it as I walked by.
None of the bars allow unaccompanied girls. So they all want to go bar hopping after you EWR them. Although the drinks are cheap ($3 apiece or so), after 10-12 drinks apiece it can still add up after several days. Pointer: buy yourself mineral water. It'll come in a small bottle. Don't finish it? Bring it with you to the next bar & you won't have to buy another drink. Never had a problem with that approach, entering with my girlfriend-du-jour & buying only one drink.
Most girls don't get bar fined that often. So they love to bar hop. Even though they've been working for months it seems they've never been inside 90% of the other bars. They want to see them all. You've EWRed her early, the night is young. Expect her to drink enough to yak. Happened on two of the two gals I bar hopped with, though I bar hopped with one four different nights & the other three nights were fine. That could turn you into being a babysitter - one that paid for the privelege.
Experience....NOT! These are not Latinas! I was careful to pick girls I thought were plenty experienced, usually in their late 20's with children. One didn't know what a vibrator was. One put the condom on me and said "now what?". No kidding! One got on CG style & had no concept of how to move; I finally had to lay her on her back & mish it. Most are modest. Half would pull the covers up over them when sitting on me CG style.
They don't seem to mind the photo's though. Often sin ropa. Never suggested the hard core versions so I can't attest to that.
Blowjobs? Difficult to come by with most of the EWR girls. I think the issue is that they just are modest, inexperienced & shy. Honey - the one I bar fined 4 or 5 times did a passable job. Actually, a very good job, just not to completion. She told me her friend she shares a room with taught her how. She has an 11 year old daughter. No wonder the guy left.....
Birth control? Not sure here, but it sure scares me. Essentially all will go bareback. One pulled my condom off just before she got on, then just as I was coming, she jumped off. I don't know about you, but somehow the withdrawal technique is not particularly satisfying.
STD's? Don't know, but that also scares me. Not enough to skip the DATY but enough to use condoms every time. They all get their bi-weekly "Hygiene" checkup but there is much debate among the local ex-pats as to the efficacy of that exercise.
Speaking of DATY - they all loved it and acted as though it was extremely rare for them to receive. Unfortunately, some were still in the giggle stage which is a real wood-eraser for me. That damned Honey wore my tongue out.
They all want stability in their lives. They'd move in with you in a heartbeat. Expect e-mails when you get home telling you how much they love you. I would presume e-mails looking for money will be following shortly. Resist or not - it's your call.
Take a gal to the mall, spend a hundred dollars on her over a few days, take her to a movie & she yours to do with as you wish.
Photos in the appropriate section, some G-rated out of respect for the gals.
BTW - there is a competing commercial web site that provides a wealth of info for the first-time visitor. Also loads of pictures & some opportunities for private parties. I attended a private pool party & had a blast. PM me for the info. Also available are a few good maps of the Fields Ave & Perimeter Road areas. These are quite handy when visiting.
/Dan D.
Hi,
my fren told me that NBI came to his bar last night and ask if they have shows and barfine.
Of course they say they dont have.....
Its all about money in AC..
happy hunting
blink
Dan
Great report and summary. I am happy you made the trip. I remember you telling me it was in the works. I was actually wondering if you went as I was toiling away with my busy May schedule.
Took a look at your pics. Great choices.
You have had a hell of a year (or less) since your initial experiences in Panama.
Looks like you have plans to return. I hope that works out.
Is there a direct CR - Philiippines flight??? LOL
....my wife has given me the assignment of accumulating FF miles for her to use!
/Dan D.
[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Dan
Great report and summary. I am happy you made the trip. I remember you telling me it was in the works. I was actually wondering if you went as I was toiling away with my busy May schedule.
Took a look at your pics. Great choices.
You have had a hell of a year (or less) since your initial experiences in Panama.
Looks like you have plans to return. I hope that works out.
Is there a direct CR - Philiippines flight??? LOL[/QUOTE]
Wow, I finally found this site again! Anyway, I'm on "vacation" in the States at the moment and will be back in PI in a couple weeks. Going to do manila a couple days then to Tacloban, Leyte on my way to Biliran Island. I plan on staying there about a week or so then head back home to AC the first of July.
Bud
M1, I hope you have a good vacation in the states.
I won't be to PI till July. May the rain holds off for your trip!
Hope you can give us a good review of your Leyte / Biliran trip. I've been hoping to visit Samar / Leyte for a long time.
In addition to women info, please feel free to send info on hotels / restaurants / beaches.
X Man
[QUOTE=mongering1]Wow, I finally found this site again! Anyway, I'm on "vacation" in the States at the moment and will be back in PI in a couple weeks. Going to do manila a couple days then to Tacloban, Leyte on my way to Biliran Island. I plan on staying there about a week or so then head back home to AC the first of July.
Bud[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=mongering1]Wow, I finally found this site again! Anyway, I'm on "vacation" in the States at the moment and will be back in PI in a couple weeks. Going to do manila a couple days then to Tacloban, Leyte on my way to Biliran Island. I plan on staying there about a week or so then head back home to AC the first of July.
Bud[/QUOTE]I am in Tacloban staying at the leyte park for 3 weeks, do you know any good places to stay in Billarun, also do you know a beach resort in north Samar called the marrabat beach resort?, any info would be appreciated.
Marvin's is the place to stay in Biliran. [url]www.biliranisland.com[/url] is a great website. Not sure about Samar, I only ever stayed in N Samar and forget the name of that place.
Bud
Hi
Can you advice us please, we want to try other places like tacloban layte or billirun.
Me and my friends got tired of AC or Manila and want to change for other resort/beach not subic.
We like the bar action.
We plan a visit for 3 weeks in november.
1) Any bars in layte? how can we pick up girls? any freebies? caffe's?
any idea for prices? over night/short time?
2) Any good beach? We like the oasis style...
3) Any airport near bye from manila?
Thanks
ESSI
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
Can you advice us please, we want to try other places like tacloban layte or billirun.
Me and my friends got tired of AC or Manila and want to change for other resort/beach not subic.
We like the bar action.
We plan a visit for 3 weeks in november.
1) Any bars in layte? how can we pick up girls? any freebies? caffe's?
any idea for prices? over night/short time?
2) Any good beach? We like the oasis style...
3) Any airport near bye from manila?
Thanks
ESSI[/QUOTE]
1)Just ask any trike driver in Tacloban for a ride to the bars. There are a few areas a bit spread out. Trikes are cheap and I've never been hassled by them. There is a red light area in Naval, Biliran, the D&C.
2) [url]www.biliranisland.com[/url] follow the links from there.
3)Tacloban, Leyte has an airport with daily flights from Manila on both PAL and Cebu Pacific. Can also fly into Cebu from Manila and then take a boat to either Ormoc, Leyte or Naval, Biliran
Bud
I've never been to AC. Thought I'll just go to Costa Rica, it's closer, and I speak some Spanish. Then I started chatting up the Philipina internet cam girls, wow. Some of these chicks are such total stunners, many young, and many with full breasts the way I like 'em.
So far I've fallen in love about a dozen times, started inquiring whether these girls are cam only or would they be up for more if I came? and got some yes answers from some awesome girls.
Now thinking the hell with Costa Rica, MNL isn't all that far..
My preference is for quality over quantity, so not getting the 5-in-24hrs record wouldn't kill me. And price is not of supreme importance.
Am I being stoopid, thinking that I could line up a couple days entertainment in advance with several girls I have already seen, no unpleasant surprises here? When one honey says she would love for me to take her to the beach (Borocay) for the weekend, where am I going wrong?
Asking here for reactions from you guys on the ground, appreciate any comments, don't worry about hurting my feelings.
What kind of cam are you referring to? Sex cam or regular chat rooms?
I haven't been too impressed with the sex cam girls. The one I did meet wanted me to take her shopping and then when we got to the bed she asked for some exorbitant price. When I suggested something more reasonable, she said, "I'm not a bar girl". I threw her out and spent the night with a wonerful gal -- who happend to also be a bar girl.
If you are doing cam with regular women on some chat site, then everything you say is possible. I wouldn't promise anyone a trip to Borocay though. In fact, if she suggested the trip, I would be a little worried. Be especially careful about someone who asks you for plane fare so that they can come meet you.
If you "line things up" and then find out in the first five minutes that you don't like the girl, you might end up with some drama. Don't make promises you might not keep.
My modus operanda is meet at the food court of the local mall, and then take it from there.
BTW, there is a section just for discussion about chat and online women. If you want any more input from me, I'd appreciate it if you move over there.
Oh, I just noticed you mention AC in your post. If you are chatting with women in AC then they are likely bar girls or ex bar girls. You might as well just go bar hopping and find the one you like that way. Of course some of the finest ladies in AC have some "nice guy" sending them money so that they don't have to work in the bar. This may be the type you are chatting with. Have you calculated the time of day she is online.
Anyway, give us more information.
X Man
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I've never been to AC. Thought I'll just go to Costa Rica, it's closer, and I speak some Spanish. Then I started chatting up the Philipina internet cam girls, wow. Some of these chicks are such total stunners, many young, and many with full breasts the way I like 'em.
So far I've fallen in love about a dozen times, started inquiring whether these girls are cam only or would they be up for more if I came? and got some yes answers from some awesome girls.
Now thinking the hell with Costa Rica, MNL isn't all that far..
My preference is for quality over quantity, so not getting the 5-in-24hrs record wouldn't kill me. And price is not of supreme importance.
Am I being stoopid, thinking that I could line up a couple days entertainment in advance with several girls I have already seen, no unpleasant surprises here? When one honey says she would love for me to take her to the beach (Borocay) for the weekend, where am I going wrong?
Asking here for reactions from you guys on the ground, appreciate any comments, don't worry about hurting my feelings.[/QUOTE]
i just returned from an 11 day trip to ac/manila and thought i'd report on the latest happenings of our favorite dirty little town in the pi. i'll try to get around to a separate manila report in the next day or so also.
i had 6 days in ac which is probably one day too many. i think i left my liver under the pool table at dollhouse. for those who don't know, there is nothing to do in ac except barhop and shag. i'm not saying that's bad...just that thats all there is to do there.
i stayed at the pacific breeze hotel. the hotel is very nice and the staff is quite possibly the best i've ever seen in ac but if you are going to stay there, try and stay in the main building and not their new addition due to the fact that the new building doesn't have an elevator. i was on the third floor and the walk up those 3 flights of stairs isn't fun at 5 am after 15+ rum & cokes. it's a good place to stay though with a nice pool and excellent bar/restaurant that's open 24x7.
rather than a detailed report of the bars...i'll just say that most have fair to average girls with a few stunners here and there. the larger bars like dollhouse and neros have more to choose from but there are hidden gems like la pasha that seemed to have a higher ratio of stunners than their competitors. the wet spot bar was a blast as was la bamba. down on perimeter side, fire and ice had by far the best selection of girls but lost in asia was right there with them. bf's tend to be cheaper on perimeter too with the most expensive being around p1,000. bf's down on fields can range from p1,000 - p4,000.
one recommendation i must pass on is the pizza delivery service from the cold drop inn. if you order a pizza from them, you can have one or more of their girls deliver it to your room. one rainy day i had 2 girls deliver a pepperoni & mushroom pizza and we ended up having a 3some for the entire afternoon. the girls were average looking but old school when it came to performance and effort. total cost including the pizza was p2300. if you're into trying a 3some, this is the way to do it as the girls from the cold drop obviously have the experience and seem to enjoy it. i've tried 3somes before in ac where one girl would wait in the bathroom and vice versa when i was ready for the other. not with these girls. it was non-stop anything goes from the moment they knocked on the door. and did i mention they brought a pizza!!!
regarding the raid from a few weeks ago....one waitress at neros told me it happened because they had a wet t-shirt contest and some of the girls were running around topless. a waitress from another bar said it was because neros had **** girls working there. i guess it all depends on who you believe. in true filipina style, you'll probably never get the real story from anyone. misty's was not raided.
speaking of mistys....this was one of my favorite bars because the staff seems to be a little bit older. i think its were the bargirls go when they're put out to pasture. several of the ladies there are pushing 30 but i think that's a nice option to have if you get tired of the giggling inexperienced 18-20 year olds like i do. i bf'd one girl out of misty's......26 years old, sexy as hell, no kids and a firecracker in bed. if i didn't have my one night only rule, i might have kept her around longer.
like others here have mentioned, many of the stunners are gone early due to the large number of koreans and japanese that scoop them up before 9 pm. i saw one japanese guy at our pool that had 5 girls with him in tow. it's good to be the king. if you are a late night prowler like me, the dollhouse has their late night lineup that starts at 3 am. i pulled 3 different ones from this lineup during my time there simply because at that time of the morning its the best option. all the other bars are either closing or about to close but the dh has 40 or so ladies just starting work. one warning about the dh....their ladies drinks are 2-3 times higher than everywhere else. it's my only real complaint about the place. a regular bf there is p1,200.
ac is still a great little mongering town but it does get old rather quickly. i actually had just as much fun in manila this trip but that's another story. cheers!
Soju Lizard understandably thinks there are limitations to what one can do in AC. May I suggest that you can hire a taxi for P1500 (perhaps P1000) and visit Mt Arayat National Park, 32km distant? Or perhaps an admittedly expensive daytour to Mt Pinatubo, or a 'day return' to Subic?
Shopping malls are loved by some and loathed by others, but at least SM Clark has a wide variety of eating options. The shopping at SM Department store, if you are after P175 - P450 ties and P175 - P800 business and casual shirts, cannot be beaten and is at one quarter or one fifth the price in developed nations like Australia. The quality of clothing has improved immeasurably since 1990. So Soju Lizard, enjoy the two activities to which you refer but remember that variety is the spice of life!
You're exactly right and I do seek variety. The shopping at the SM Mall is excellent when compared to other countries and even the local markets are fun to hit in the mornings. But those things are available in other areas too. My advice for someone coming a great distance to the PI is to definitely spend several days in AC but also hit some other areas for true variety like Manila, Boracay, Puerto Galera & maybe Baguio. I've heard good things about Cebu, Palawan and Samar too but I've never been to those places.
[QUOTE=Notanocker]Soju Lizard understandably thinks there are limitations to what one can do in AC. May I suggest that you can hire a taxi for P1500 (perhaps P1000) and visit Mt Arayat National Park, 32km distant? Or perhaps an admittedly expensive daytour to Mt Pinatubo, or a 'day return' to Subic?
Shopping malls are loved by some and loathed by others, but at least SM Clark has a wide variety of eating options. The shopping at SM Department store, if you are after P175 - P450 ties and P175 - P800 business and casual shirts, cannot be beaten and is at one quarter or one fifth the price in developed nations like Australia. The quality of clothing has improved immeasurably since 1990. So Soju Lizard, enjoy the two activities to which you refer but remember that variety is the spice of life![/QUOTE]
One recommendation I must pass on is the pizza delivery service from the Cold Drop Inn. If you order a pizza from them, you can have one or more of their girls deliver it to your room. One rainy day I had 2 girls deliver a pepperoni & mushroom pizza and we ended up having a 3some for the entire afternoon. The girls were average looking but old school when it came to performance and effort. Total cost including the pizza was P2300. If you're into trying a 3some, this is the way to do it as the girls from the Cold Drop obviously have the experience and seem to enjoy it. I've tried 3somes before in AC where one girl would wait in the bathroom and vice versa when I was ready for the other. Not with these girls. It was non-stop anything goes from the moment they knocked on the door. And did I mention they brought a pizza!!!
That might be the coolest thing I've ever heard! Are the girls that show up just random? Did you get around to eating the pizza? ...any good?
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I've never been to AC. Thought I'll just go to Costa Rica, it's closer, and I speak some Spanish. Then I started chatting up the Philipina internet cam girls, wow. Some of these chicks are such total stunners, many young, and many with full breasts the way I like 'em.
So far I've fallen in love about a dozen times, started inquiring whether these girls are cam only or would they be up for more if I came? and got some yes answers from some awesome girls.
Now thinking the hell with Costa Rica, MNL isn't all that far..
My preference is for quality over quantity, so not getting the 5-in-24hrs record wouldn't kill me. And price is not of supreme importance.
Am I being stoopid, thinking that I could line up a couple days entertainment in advance with several girls I have already seen, no unpleasant surprises here? When one honey says she would love for me to take her to the beach (Borocay) for the weekend, where am I going wrong?
Asking here for reactions from you guys on the ground, appreciate any comments, don't worry about hurting my feelings.[/QUOTE]
I've been there and done that, but not with a cam girl. Just a girl from an internet dating site. She could be for real, as Boracay is a dream vacation for most of these girls. But I would suggest you not line anyone up. Just go to Angeles City and if you find a girl you want to spend more time with, then just book a flight to Boracay. You say price is of no importance, but you will pay more for one of those cam girls and they probably have worked in the bars and will probably end up back there in a month or two. A little advice on money: Always pretend you have less money than you do. Act cheap most of the time and be generous when it is merited.
There are 110 ten bars or so in Angeles City with 10-100 girls in each. There are girls of all experience levels there. If you find a sweetheart you want to spend more time with, then just book a flight and take her to Boracay.
Do not feel sorry for these girls and their financial plight. There is a bargirl I know that was receiving $1700usd a month from some foreign idiot. He found out she was fucking the filipino DJ and cut her off. They spend everything they make and have more expensive cellphones than I would buy. Think about what you spend and don't ruin the market. They make more than doctors do.
Excellent advice frokm FireWanker,
And all the doctors are working overseas. Don't get sick in the Philippines.
X Man
[QUOTE=FireWalker]They make more than doctors do.[/QUOTE]
I had actually been to the Cold Drop the day before to scout out their staff and verify that they did this service so I knew which ones to ask for. That's probably the safest thing to do if you're picky coz otherwise you're getting whoever they decide to send you. I didn't try it but I heard their steak is pretty good. I'd recommend having lunch there one day and go in the back to the bar and chat up the girls to see who you like then let your choice(s) know you'll be ordering a pizza soon and you want her/them to deliver it. The day I was there they had 6 girls working. They'll give you a menu to take with the phone number you need to call. That system worked out great for me and it was nice having someone show up that I already felt comfortable with. I'd already broken the ice the day before.
The pizza wasn't that great but who cares? LOL.
[QUOTE=Dafacer]
That might be the coolest thing I've ever heard! Are the girls that show up just random? Did you get around to eating the pizza? ...any good?[/QUOTE]
I was at Cold Drop one time, got way way too drunk. So, I oredered delivery and got a ride to my house! My gf was not impressed by the couple of girls that joined me however.
Bud
[QUOTE=X Man]Excellent advice frokm FireWanker,
And all the doctors are working overseas. Don't get sick in the Philippines.
X Man[/QUOTE]
Most of the doctors that are working overseas are working as nurses!
I have been a regular visitor to the LOS to play golf and monger. Pattaya is the place I go, the place I love and undoubtedly, the golf opportunities coupled with the available ass has kept me happy for many visits.
However, I have decided to look at other options as far as Golf/Monger holidays are concerned, and this in turn has brought me to the Phillipine forum.
Firstly, where is it best to go for women. Reports suggest Angeles is dirty and horrible.
Where would it best to visit for good golf, nice scenery and some quality Filipino poontang?
Thanks in anticipation
The reports are correct. Dirty and horrible -- and that's the women. The town is even worse.
The best golfing is the course around the Pinatubo crater. It's very scenic, but during the rainy season, the sand/lahar traps can be a real pain.
Have a good trip.
X Man
[QUOTE=Have It]I have been a regular visitor to the LOS to play golf and monger. Pattaya is the place I go, the place I love and undoubtedly, the golf opportunities coupled with the available ass has kept me happy for many visits.
However, I have decided to look at other options as far as Golf/Monger holidays are concerned, and this in turn has brought me to the Phillipine forum.
Firstly, where is it best to go for women. Reports suggest Angeles is dirty and horrible.
Where would it best to visit for good golf, nice scenery and some quality Filipino poontang?
Thanks in anticipation[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I am planning a trip to Angeles in July and needed some information.
To get to Angeles from manila airport how long is the journey and what is the cost.
Also any hotel recommedation would be grateful budget about 50$ per night.
I see on the forum bar fines are p1000 is this correct and is this just for the bar or is it for the girl also. What would be the normal tip for the girls.
Cheers,
Pavlohh
[quote]The reports are correct. Dirty and horrible -- and that's the women. The town is even worse.[/quote]Damn, and I just prepaid my membership at the country club. Oh well, at least the golf course sounds appealing.
[QUOTE=Pavlohh]Hi,
I am planning a trip to Angeles in July and needed some information.
[/QUOTE]
Man, make your homework and RTFF
[QUOTE=X Man]The reports are correct. Dirty and horrible -- and that's the women. The town is even worse.
[/QUOTE]
Horrible eh?!?
Excellent advice...
(and more "horrible" young filipinas for Billy Baht)
Hye, hey, hey........
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Do not feel sorry for these girls and their financial plight. There is a bargirl I know that was receiving $1700usd a month from some foreign idiot. He found out she was fucking the filipino DJ and cut her off. They spend everything they make and have more expensive cellphones than I would buy. Think about what you spend and don't ruin the market. They make more than doctors do.[/QUOTE]
$1,700 USD per month?
To put that sum in perspective, last night I was talking with a waitress in "Gentlemans Club" on the perimiter. Waitresses make P100 per day; dancers get P160. When you buy a P100 ladies drink, the girl gets a P45 commission; she gets P500 of the P1,000 bar fine.
$1,700 USD -tax free- per month? That's a f*cking fortune here. No wonder some girls get an attitude...
Hey fellas.
There's a real possibility that I may go to Angeles later this summer (depends on my holiday time.). Anyways, been reading thru the threads. And my understanding is that from the Clark's airport into town (Fields and Perimeter St), one has to take a taxi at a cost of some 300-400P, is that right?
Isn't there any cheap way to go from the Clark's airport into town? Like shared taxi or jeepney? If there are so many jeepneys that run along the main drag, why don't they ply their trade btw the airport and the strip? Just a thought.
Thanks in advance for your info.
Tonedog
[QUOTE=Tonedog]Hey fellas.
There's a real possibility that I may go to Angeles later this summer (depends on my holiday time.). Anyways, been reading thru the threads. And my understanding is that from the Clark's airport into town (Fields and Perimeter St), one has to take a taxi at a cost of some 300-400P, is that right?
Isn't there any cheap way to go from the Clark's airport into town? Like shared taxi or jeepney? If there are so many jeepneys that run along the main drag, why don't they ply their trade btw the airport and the strip? Just a thought.
Thanks in advance for your info.
Tonedog[/QUOTE]Big guy, That is cheap. Your talking at most 9 bucks for greater than a twenty minute cab ride.
Current Rates: 400.00 PHP = 8.67237 USD
1 USD = 46.1235 PHP
[QUOTE=Tonedog]Hey fellas.
Isn't there any cheap way to go from the Clark's airport into town? Tonedog[/QUOTE]
If you arrive late at night from Seoul...no way. Better book a cab through your hotel. Its 300 Ps.
If you arrive with one of the lunchtime flights and got no luggage, then you may walk out some 200 m in the heat and find a jeepney next to the shopping places.
Or you take one of the buses to SM mall. They are waiting just in front of the exit at arrival. From SM mall you can get then anything... or even walk ot the hotel.
Alex Deuce, travelling from Clark Airport to SM Clark shopping centre takes only 10 minutes. It is an easy walk from the latter across to many hotels, including on Fields as well as Angeles Beach Club Hotel. Annoyingly, the ABC Hotel looks to be very close to the main entrance of SM Clark but in fact one jas to detour a bit across some empty land and then through the markets. A fence prohibits quicker foot access. Be warned. The footpaths (sidewalks to any Americans reading this) are the usual poor Filipino standard in Angeles, so any travellers with considerable luggage may require a trike from SM Clark to their hotel. The latter is a fixed P50 charge.
going through customs check at calrk they thoroughly checked my carry-on luggage. on the bottom, i had a bag with 6 dvd's each with several movies on them (no porn). they told me i had broken international law and confirep001ed them. they were quite polite about it but took my passport info and had me sign on their log book. the log book was also full of scribbles, not to official looking. they told me that my name would not be released' only the item names. they said that they were legal to view within the philippines, but illegal to take out. this surprised me as i have taken movie dvd's out before and they said nothing.
well i hope i don't get in trouble for this. i never travel with check-in baggage--wish i had this time
going through customs check at calrk they thoroughly checked my carry-on luggage. on the bottom, i had a bag with 6 dvd's each with several movies on them (no porn). they told me i had broken international law and confirep001ed them. they were quite polite about it but took my passport info and had me sign on their log book. the log book was also full of scribbles, not to official looking. they told me that my name would not be released' only the item names. they said that they were legal to view within the philippines, but illegal to take out. this surprised me as i have taken movie dvd's out before and they said nothing.
well i hope i don't get in trouble for this. i never travel with check-in baggage--wish i had this time
[quote=durianman]going through customs check at calrk they thoroughly checked my carry-on luggage. on the bottom, i had a bag with 6 dvd's each with several movies on them (no porn). they told me i had broken international law and confirep001ed them. they were quite polite about it but took my passport info and had me sign on their log book. the log book was also full of scribbles, not to official looking. they told me that my name would not be released' only the item names. they said that they were legal to view within the philippines, but illegal to take out. this surprised me as i have taken movie dvd's out before and they said nothing.
well i hope i don't get in trouble for this. i never travel with check-in baggage--wish i had this time[/quote]strange. i thought clark airfield is customswise off county (duty free zone). do they check on arrival-departure ?
this sounds a bit like a scam to me (which wouldn't surprise me in the philippines).
I wasn't checked at all flying out of MNL. I did get the full search coming into the US at LAX, though. Luckily, I had stocked up on DVDs in Indonesia, so nothing to find!
[QUOTE=Billy Baht]$1,700 USD per month?
To put that sum in perspective, last night I was talking with a waitress in "Gentlemans Club" on the perimiter. Waitresses make P100 per day; dancers get P160. When you buy a P100 ladies drink, the girl gets a P45 commission; she gets P500 of the P1,000 bar fine.
$1,700 USD -tax free- per month? That's a f*cking fortune here. No wonder some girls get an attitude...[/QUOTE]
Even more perspective. A decent bargirl (who isn't lazy) makes around $300usd a month. That is more than a doctor makes in the Phils. I knew a filipina in Cebu that made $120-220usd a month as a salesperson. She supported 5 family members and schooling for siblings on that.
By the way, the girl who was receiving $1700 usd a month in support, still fucked it up. She got caught by her benefactor screwing the filipino DJ for free. She went around saying she broke up with him, or course.
My point is- don't feel sorry for these girls and overtip. You don't have to be cheap either. I buy lady drinks sometimes for girls I am not interested in barfining, just for conversation. I've even rang the bell before in my favorite bar where they treat me well, but I don't overtip.
Firewalker wrote:
My point is- don't feel sorry for these girls and overtip. You don't have to be cheap either. I buy lady drinks sometimes for girls I am not interested in barfining, just for conversation. I've even rang the bell before in my favorite bar where they treat me well, but I don't overtip.
Yeah, I did it all wrong earlier this year in February. Tipped too much, barfind one girl four times etc etc. Still had lots of fun Lol!
I will be all the wiser next week when I'm up in Angeles. Treat them with respect but don't be a sucker.
I'll even write a report this time. Lol.
Hey Botaki.
Thanks for the info. I'll actually be arriving in the late afternoon around 5:30pm. At this time of the day, are the jeepneys still available in front of the shopping places; and are the buses still running in front of the arrival exit.
And one more thing. I looked on acmap and not able to locate the SM Mall. Can anyone tell me where is it exactly (near what landmark). It will be my first time in Angeles. Just trying to get my bearing before arriving
Thanks again.
And Alex Deuce.
I know it's only $8US for a taxi ride. My thinking is. If you can do it cheaper, why not. Just means more cash for me to spend on beers and boobs.
[QUOTE=Tonedog]..not able to locate the SM Mall. Can anyone tell me where is it exactly...[/QUOTE]Close to entrance to Clark Economic sone, only 400 m away from the bus/ jeepney station. If you want to save another 100 peso, just walk.
[quote=durianman]going through customs check at calrk they thoroughly checked my carry-on luggage. on the bottom, i had a bag with 6 dvd's each with several movies on them (no porn). they told me i had broken international law and confirep001ed them. they were quite polite about it but took my passport info and had me sign on their log book. the log book was also full of scribbles, not to official looking. they told me that my name would not be released' only the item names. they said that they were legal to view within the philippines, but illegal to take out. this surprised me as i have taken movie dvd's out before and they said nothing.
well i hope i don't get in trouble for this. i never travel with check-in baggage--wish i had this time[/quote]
i got busted with dvd's in manila. they confirep001ed them, but nothing more.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Close to entrance to Clark Economic sone, only 400 m away from the bus/ jeepney station. If you want to save another 100 peso, just walk.[/QUOTE]
You will be able to see it on other side of Checkpoint.
[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]Firewalker wrote:
My point is- don't feel sorry for these girls and overtip. You don't have to be cheap either. I buy lady drinks sometimes for girls I am not interested in barfining, just for conversation. I've even rang the bell before in my favorite bar where they treat me well, but I don't overtip.
Yeah, I did it all wrong earlier this year in February. Tipped too much, barfind one girl four times etc etc. Still had lots of fun Lol!
I will be all the wiser next week when I'm up in Angeles. Treat them with respect but don't be a sucker.
I'll even write a report this time. Lol.[/QUOTE]
Try my method for barhopping when you are there. Head to perimeter bars, say out to HoneyKo's (Take jeepney from Checkpoint) at 3pm or so. Then work yourself back toward Fields. Stopping at Nasty Duck, Gentlemans, Thi Highs, Nifties,etc. You will have a better lay of the land that way. If you don't find a girl you want, then go to Fields in the evening. This will save you some money, as well.
[QUOTE=Tonedog]Hey Botaki.
Thanks for the info. I'll actually be arriving in the late afternoon around 5:30pm. At this time of the day, are the jeepneys still available in front of the shopping places; and are the buses still running in front of the arrival exit.
And one more thing. I looked on acmap and not able to locate the SM Mall.
I know it's only $8US for a taxi ride. My thinking is. If you can do it cheaper, why not. Just means more cash for me to spend on beers and boobs.[/QUOTE]
5:30 arrival and out of customs say 6:30 should still be ok, but its dark then already. If its your first time, would get a cab booked from your hotel.
The SM mall is new therefore not in the maps: next to the Gate entrance to Clark and next to the jeepney parking, which is now a bus and taxi station. Walking to SM mall...well..its from the terminal some 3 or 4 km...lol
To Botaki.
Thanks for all the info. Hope my holiday time gets approved.
Happy hunting.
Tonedog
I've been writing to this one girl for a long time and she uses this one word.. I though it was just a lack of vocabulary.. but now writing to this other girl from Cebu and she used the same word.
Does anyone know what they wean by furge ..?
"she did not love the father of her child because the man was furge her that
time"
I love this stuff.
ENDER
[QUOTE=Botaki6]5:30 arrival and out of customs say 6:30 should still be ok, but its dark then already. If its your first time, would get a cab booked from your hotel.
The SM mall is new therefore not in the maps: next to the Gate entrance to Clark and next to the jeepney parking, which is now a bus and taxi station. Walking to SM mall...well..its from the terminal some 3 or 4 km...lol[/QUOTE]
Look for someone to share taxi, that will bring cost down. Jeepney may try to charge you more for bringing bags on anyway. Just not worth it.
A few weeks ago, during a few days in Angeles...
After a day and night of bar hopping, including some afternoon delight, I decided that, at 02:00, I was good to keep the bed to myself.
My last stop for the night had been Las Vegas. Great show, gorgeous girls, fun waitresses, but I always seem to end up with the cherry girls, so I was going back to the hotel alone.
As I walked into the hotel, I was behind a fellow monger who had three girls with him. He was looking fairly drunk and a little unstable on his feet. I said to the girl at the end of his trail, "You're going to have trouble carrying him if he falls down". She laughed and reminded me that she was from Vegas, where I had just come from. She remembered me but I only vaguely remembered her, but so what? I said, "If things don't work out, you know where I am!"
We proceeded to our rooms, and it turned out that the hammered monger was in the room next to me.
10 minutes later, my phone rings and our beauty says, "Can I come over?" Who am I to say "No"?
There's always a way to avoid a barfine!
[QUOTE=Ender]..."she did not love the father of her child because the man was furge her that time"...
[/QUOTE]
she might mean "forget" but couldnt spell it.
Hello Gentlemen
This was my second trip to AC in only 6 months. I was just here late last year and I love it so much I came back in record time. The only thing I didn’t like about my last trip was the lack of a beach. So this time, I decided to include Boracay in my trip. I knew from reading this board I need to bring someone with me. So I contacted my favorite girls from my last trip to see if she wanted to come with me. Of course she said yes. We’ll just call her Ms. Flamingo. I booked everything from the States even though I was warned I would be paying more. The way I figure it, I only have a few days of vacation per year. I don’t want to spend it organizing a trip. I would rather have it all lined up and ready to go for a few dollars more. I guess if you’re European and had a few weeks to a few months to spend over there, it would not matter much. But I just don’t have that luxury.
I flew Philippines Airline for the first time. The planes were old and my attendant was rude. I did notice the other attendants were all very attractive and nice. I guess I just had bad luck with mine. I also notice that most of the passengers were very nice. I had some very pleasant neighbors and that made for a great flight. I was dead tired from my hectic work life. So I had no problems sleeping through most of the flight. The rest was typical, easy customs, car waiting for me from the Pacific Breeze Hotel, smooth sailing. I bought a reload for my cell phone I had purchased on my last trip. I put it in hoping the SIM card would still work and it did. Does anyone know how long you can go without using the phone before they cancel your number? Anyway, on the way to the hotel, I call Ms. Flamingo and tell her I’m on my way. She is just too excited for words.
I checked into my room at the Pacific Breeze and found it to be very nice. I got the bath tub room for about fifty bucks. I think this is over priced for a place like AC but there are only a limited number of nice hotels here and the rule of supply and demand applies. Can’t complain too much though. In the US, fifty bucks doesn’t get you much more than Motel 6 these days. This room was much better than any Motel 6 I’ve ever seen. The hotel also had some very cute girls working the reception. Every time they saw me, they would say greet me by name. It was just too cute and put a smile on my face every time.
I take a quick shower and decided to go for a walk. I wanted to find the Blue Boar Inn to talk to Harry the Horse. Except I had no idea where it is. So I just start walking towards Perimeter road. On the way there, I spot Action Travel and decided to pick up my tickets to Boracay. I gave them my name and money, they handed over the tickets. No ID check or anything. I guess they don’t care who I am as long as I pay for the tickets. I continue to walk towards Perimeter hoping to spot the Blue Boar Inn. I got to about the American Hotel and decided this was a stupid idea. I need to get to a computer and check a map. Besides, I’m in AC. How about getting laid first? Dumbass. I walk back to the Margarita Station and call Ms. Flamingo. She is there in 5 minutes. We eat a little bit. The food is only OK. They really need aircon in this place. Back at room, she is a good girl and hits the shower right away. I do the same. I come out of the bathroom and she is watching wresting on Jack TV. Something about that was really funny to me. And I notice how cute she was. I’m glad I picked her to go to Boracay with me. We have a passionate session and both fall asleep.
We woke up about 8 pm and I’m ready to hit the bars. She says she is late for work and I tell her I’ll go ahead and barfine her for the night so she can bar hop with me. She tells me to relax and she’ll go pay her BF. I’m a little reluctant to give her the money and not go with her. But so far, I have no reason not to trust her so I decided to test her. Ten minutes later, she returns and says she is ready to go out. A good sign. An interesting thing happened on her way out; she asked me how to operate the elevator so she can make her way back. I guess they don’t have much experience with elevators in this town.
The first place I decide to take her is Nero’s. It was here that a waitress decided I wasn’t good enough for her last time I was here. So I decided to show off Ms. Flamingo and tell her I’m taking Ms. Flamingo to Boracay with me. This immediate got a response from the Waitress. I had a lot of fun hanging out here tonight. Most of the staff I had met last time were still here. I noticed a Hostess who kept staring at me the entire night. Before I left, she came over and asked me where I was from. Translation: I like you and I want you to BF me. I take a mental note and leave with Ms. Flamingo for more bar hopping. To my dismay, most of the other bars weren’t much better than Nero’s in terms of talent.
The next day, I went to see Harry the Horse at the Blue Boar Inn. What a great guy. I’m going to keep in touch with him as he is a great source of information on AC. After that, I took Ms. Flamingo to Zapata’s Mexican restaurant. I was surprised by the quality and authenticity of the food. Not the best Mexican food I’ve ever had but certainly no where near the worst. We spent the rest of the afternoon at the SM Mall. We saw The Reaping with Hillary Swank. An OK movie. Ms. Flamingo was scared most of the movie and held me tight. Works for me. Soon after the movie, it was back to the room for another session.
We went back to Nero’s that night. They had a wet T-shirt contest going on. You can buy roses to give to the girls you like. The girl with the most roses wins. I see a very sexy girl on stage and gave her all my roses. She then kisses me right on the lips in front of Ms. Flamingo. I thought she might not like this but all she did was laugh. Ms. Flamingo was a winner. I can’t wait to go to Boracay with her.
Boracay
The next morning, we check out of the hotel and head for Clark. This is my first time here and I was shocked by how close it was. It is so convenient to have an airport just minutes away. Our flight on SEAir’s prop-plane was fun. I’ve never been in a plane this small before. We land in Caticlan and the hotel staff was waiting for us and drives us to the beach where a boat was waiting. A short hop across the water and we are on Boracay. Again, hotel staff was waiting and takes us to the hotel. We stayed at Boracay Tropics which wasn’t right on the water but close enough. This is the high season (April) and I paid about $120 per night. That included transfers and two meals for two each day.
Everything I heard about this place was right: it is very beautiful; there are no actions to be found here so bring your own girl and 3 days are enough. I absolutely loved the 3 days I spend here. I had the cutest girl on my arms 24/7. I lounged on the beach, went snorkeling and swam in the beautiful blue water. I kept asking myself “how much would this cost in the US?” I had to stop thinking about that after a while or I wasn’t going to go home. To make a long story short, it was 3 days of blue water, white sand, and a beautiful girl. Who could ask for more?
Back to AC
When I got back to AC, I was in the mood to try something different. I told Ms. Flamingo I was going barhopping alone. To my surprise, she agreed without any drama and went home. I told her I would call her soon and she was OK with that. I decided to go back to Nero and BF the hostess I met previously. She turned out to be the most aggressive provider I’ve ever been with in Asia. She told me she was a 3-holer and made me promise to use all three entries. During the bedroom exercises, she kept asking me to release in her mouth. This girl belongs in Rio. I don’t know where she learned all this but I was glad I ran into her. Unfortunately, she was also very high maintenance. She insisted in barhopping and shopping before performing. But she promised a great performance and delivered. So I really can’t complain.
The next day, I spent the day at the mall with another waitress I met on my last trip. I never BF’d her and have no plans to. She is a little older than most of her counter parts. We became friends and I decided to take her and her kids to lunch and the arcade. I ended up having a great time. Her kids were great and I was glad to be able to take them out for a good time. While out with them, she tells me that there is a girl at Nero’s with a crush on me. “Crush?” You mean she likes my wallet. No, she said. This girl has liked you since you were here last year. I decided to investigate this crush further that night.
So I go back to Nero’s again that night and look for this girl. She is also a waitress. She tells me she was the Tequila Girl during my last trip. She also tells me she not only remembers me but she remembered where I sat and who I was talking to on that last trip. The memories of the bar girl is absolutely amazing to me. I can’t remember what I had for breakfast. I can’t say I remember her as the Tequila Girl but she is really cute. I wanted to BF her but the Hostess came over and claimed me as hers. She asked me if I missed putting it in her ass. Well that pretty locked it in and I told the Tequila Girl maybe next time. That night, the Hostess wanted to go to a disco before the hotel. I was curious so I agreed. We went to a place called Skytrax. It was mostly locals. Not a bad club, some cuties and pretty good music. Then, a bunch of gang-banger wannabe’s came in and I had to leave. I have enough of that in the US. I don’t need to see it on vacation.
Back in the room, she kept gaping her ass and pussy for me as I pulled out. It was like being in a porno. It was a blast but I kept thinking about the Tequila Girl. The next day was my last before I head for Pattaya via Macau. I called Ms. Flamingo to spend some time with her before I left. She gave me some story about being busy. I knew it was a lie and she had another client. But I didn’t care because I really wanted to try the Tequila Girl. That night, I BF’d her. I got a few looks from the Hostess as I did this but she is a pro and she knows the game. Taking the Tequila Girl on my last night was a huge mistake on my part. I should have taken her from my first night. Her “crush” was real and she wanted me more than I wanted her. That made for a great session. I’m reminded of a rule a fellow monger once shared with me. Find a girl who likes you and you’ll have a great time. Too bad for me. I instituted this rule a little too late. More reason to come back for a third time I guess.
I left the next morning from Clark to Bangkok using Tiger Air to Macau and Air Asia to Bangkok. It was so easy and cheap. This is the only way I’ll travel between Pattaya and AC from now on. Best of all, you’ll miss Manila all together. That airport sucks and the ride isn’t fun either. In Macau, you just go through immigration then head upstairs to the ticket counter and re-check your luggage. The airport is really small and this is really easy. The layover is about 1:45 and you have plenty of time. There are free computers with internet at the terminals. If you decide to fly through Manila, you won’t have a layover to Bangkok. But you’ll have a 2-3 hour car ride instead. So in the end, the time spent is about the same.
In conclusion, my second trip to AC proved to be better than the first. I suspect they’ll keep on getting better every time. Spending time in Boracay with Ms. Flamingo was the best time of my life. I felt like a rock star. It also made my life in the US look rather pathetic. In fact, it has been over 7 weeks since I returned and I just now had time to put this in writing. However, my hectic life in the US is a necessary evil. It provides me with the funds to be able to do this every 6 months. I guess you can’t have it both ways. BTW, I was back for 3 days before I bought tickets for my next trip later this year. Hopefully, I’ll meet up with some of you guys on that trip. I will now post the Pattaya portion of my trip on that board. I hope you enjoyed this report. Sorry if it was too long.
Egg
[QUOTE=Eggsalad]I bought a reload for my cell phone I had purchased on my last trip. I put it in hoping the SIM card would still work and it did. Does anyone know how long you can go without using the phone before they cancel your number? [/QUOTE]
Nice report Egg, I see you had a good time.
The SIM cards usually last 2 months active after reload, then the load disappears, but you have a grace period of the following 4 months with number still valid.
After this 4 months the SIM doesn't work anymore and number is cancelled.
(For my Globe SIM it's right, Smart I dunno)
Cheers!
Ekspat, I'm pretty sure it's longer than that, unless things have changed since I bought my SIM. I'll try to dig out my old contract / info...I'm just going by memory. Or better yet, can someone else chime in.
(despite what some of you have assumed, I don't live in the Philippines)
X Man
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Nice report Egg, I see you had a good time.
The SIM cards usually last 2 months active after reload, then the load disappears, but you have a grace period of the following 4 months with number still valid.
After this 4 months the SIM doesn't work anymore and number is cancelled.
(For my Globe SIM it's right, Smart I dunno)
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Great Report Eggs..It was really deep and novelist like....you are really a gentleman monger.
Good Luck with your next trip :)
[QUOTE=Ekspat]The SIM cards usually last 2 months active after reload, then the load disappears, but you have a grace period of the following 4 months with number still valid.
After this 4 months the SIM doesn't work anymore and number is cancelled.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Yes thats correct Ekspat, at least for Globe. If in doubt check their website: [url]www1.globe.com.ph[/url]
There are serveral ways to extend your account by reloading. I remember that someone mentioned putting your phone on international roaming before you leave the country, to extend the grace period. Before I left the country back in March, I did just that. Will have to see if it works.
PS-- Yes nice report Eggsalad, glad your travel plans worked out!
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Great Report Eggs..It was really deep and novelist like....you are really a gentleman monger.
Good Luck with your next trip :)[/QUOTE]
A "gentleman monger", huh? I haven't heard that before but it sounds great to me. I just try to treat everyone how I would like to be treated in their position, that's all.
Egg
Hello there.
I was thinking. If I were able to take time off and travel to AC later this year, I mind as well get some dental work done there, as I have learned the cost of dental work in the PP is much less than here in NA.
My question to you all is. Can anyone recommend a good dentist in AC, specifically one who does stuff like crowns and veneers and whitening?
The doctor's' email would be great.
Thanx a whole bunch
Tonedog
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Even more perspective. A decent bargirl (who isn't lazy) makes around $300usd a month. That is more than a doctor makes in the Phils.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I can't guarantee that there are no doctors in the PI who make less than US $300 per month, but I know that there are plenty who make a hell of a lot more. To further put salaries in perspective: an entry level job in a Manila call center (helpdesk/tech support phone person) requires a bachelors degree and typically pays $200-$250/month, and it is not considered a very good job--hence the very high turnover rate. An average engineer or programmer with 3 or 4 years experience makes around $400 a month. This is what my company pays, and I have been told by numerous people that we are actually a little below average. I have also been told by a Filipino coworker that a non-degreed sales clerk generally makes about $100 per month and gets no benefits. Compared to this, which is about the best job most bar girls could get, $300 sound pretty good.
[QUOTE=Have It]I have been a regular visitor to the LOS to play golf and monger. Pattaya is the place I go, the place I love and undoubtedly, the golf opportunities coupled with the available ass has kept me happy for many visits.
However, I have decided to look at other options as far as Golf/Monger holidays are concerned, and this in turn has brought me to the Phillipine forum.
Firstly, where is it best to go for women. Reports suggest Angeles is dirty and horrible.
Where would it best to visit for good golf, nice scenery and some quality Filipino poontang?
Thanks in anticipation[/QUOTE]
There is a reason Thailand is much more famous as a mongering destination. There are golf course around Subic, but I have no idea how good they are, and the scenery is not on par with Thailand. Your best bet would be to go to AC, pick a girl or two that you like, and then take her/them with you to a resort area. If that is too much trouble--and I would not blame you if it is--stick to Pattaya.
I spent with a friend four days in AC. We stayed in “Hotel America”. When the bar girls asked, where are we staying and we answered “Hotel America”, then it happened several times, that they giggled and said, that this hotel is a “ghost hotel”. I asked them for an explanation, but I didn’t get one.
I hadn’t any contact with a ghost in the hotel just a volcano appeared.
Unfortunately, she decided to go home after the session (claimed to be drunk). In the second night the same procedure (I ordered a trip to Mt Pinatubo starting 5 o’clock and she didn’t want to disturb me in the night).
The nice girl in the third night didn’t know obviously about the “ghost(s)” in the hotel and stayed until 12 o’clock, when I had to check out.
My friend had similar experiences. Only one girl of six stayed overnight and she was the only one didn’t ask for the name of the hotel.
Such one I would expect in Thailand. There are ghosts anywhere. But in the Philippines? Where are the ghost busters?
I did RTFF, but I didn’t found anything. Therefore, can anyone explain why the girls call this hotel “ghost hotel”? Or does it mean that the hotel is empty like a ghost house? (but it wasn’t)
Are there other hotels in AC having this reputation?
Next time I have to go to another hotel because I like it when the girls stay till the morning. I sleep better and when I wake up, I know what to do.
[QUOTE=Lucky Fellow]I spent with a friend four days in AC. We stayed in “Hotel America”. When the bar girls asked, where are we staying and we answered “Hotel America”, then it happened several times, that they giggled and said, that this hotel is a “ghost hotel”. I asked them for an explanation, but I didn’t get one.
I hadn’t any contact with a ghost in the hotel just a volcano appeared.
Unfortunately, she decided to go home after the session (claimed to be drunk). In the second night the same procedure (I ordered a trip to Mt Pinatubo starting 5 o’clock and she didn’t want to disturb me in the night).
The nice girl in the third night didn’t know obviously about the “ghost(s)” in the hotel and stayed until 12 o’clock, when I had to check out.
My friend had similar experiences. Only one girl of six stayed overnight and she was the only one didn’t ask for the name of the hotel.
Such one I would expect in Thailand. There are ghosts anywhere. But in the Philippines? Where are the ghost busters?
I did RTFF, but I didn’t found anything. Therefore, can anyone explain why the girls call this hotel “ghost hotel”? Or does it mean that the hotel is empty like a ghost house? (but it wasn’t)
Are there other hotels in AC having this reputation?
Next time I have to go to another hotel because I like it when the girls stay till the morning. I sleep better and when I wake up, I know what to do.[/QUOTE]
Apparently a bargirl died in the America Hotel a long while ago, hence the ghosts thing. Just tell the girl that the ghost LOVES to join in a threesome!
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Apparently a bargirl died in the America Hotel a long while ago, hence the ghosts thing. Just tell the girl that the ghost LOVES to join in a threesome![/QUOTE]A German guy cut a BG in pieces there and aparently not that long ago (maybe a couple of years back). Most of the bg know the story and they are superstitious. For good reason. That hotel and especially the location look quite freightening.
I have heard that CP has had a similar problem recently.
As a younger guy I tend to gravitate to the older ladies. Are there a lot of 30+ ladies in Angel City? Where is the best place to find them?
[QUOTE=Quasarus]A German guy cut a BG in pieces there and aparently not that long ago (maybe a couple of years back). Most of the bg know the story and they are superstitious. For good reason. That hotel and especially the location look quite freightening.[/QUOTE]
that happens in clarkton hotel last august, gurl was from lolipop bar , she sneaks out, guy cut her in pieces, bribed the cops and left the country, thats the info how it was told to me.
german guy killed bargurl in america long time ago and until now this story goes from mama san to bargurl etc etc etc
happy hunting day
B
[QUOTE=Blink157]that happens in clarkton hotel last august, gurl was from lolipop bar , she sneaks out, guy cut her in pieces, bribed the cops and left the country, thats the info how it was told to me.
german guy killed bargurl in america long time ago and until now this story goes from mama san to bargurl etc etc etc
happy hunting day
B[/QUOTE]
I heard it differently from guy who lives there, he says CP. The hotel helped get him out even before cops came. I heard the same that she was a sneak out, so the bar didn't give a shit. I witnessed an incident at CP this year where girl came out crying from CP, tourists police showed up. Don't know what ended up happening there.
Hi guys, I’ll be in AC from Sunday, July 29, till Friday, August 17, coming from Thailand where I live.
I just hope the weather will be good and find some good fun.
I would like to know if there are some gym (maybe with sauna and steam bath) around town (I’ll probably stay at Orchid Resort) and nice place to jogging and run (especially in the morning) to keep up some fitness,
I’m not really scare about the weather because I’m custom to Phuket climate but I’m complete unaware of AC.
Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestion, by the time take care all of you and happy mongering…
If anyone will be interested to join me just PM.
Hi Pavlohh,
When you have to spend some money best way is to book in advance a ride by car to Angeles City. It cost about P2, 300. It take about 2 hours to go to Angeles. You can make reservations through margarita station ([url]http://www.margaritastation.com[/url]) or the best you book a taxidrive via your hotel your going to stay. Hotel to stay for a very good hotel in the entertainment place is pacific breeze ([url]http://www.pacificbreezehotel.com[/url]) Look at the site and a room starts at $41. If you want cheaper an near pacific breeze you can stay in the hotel Central Park with room that starts at $29 per night. The main place of the bar is Fields. Here is the parfine P 1, 200 (half for the girl (P600) other half for the bar. Barfine on Permiter Road is P 1, 000. It is very far from Fields, not many customer and not so good looking girls. But it can be fun to go in the afternoon. Bars there open at 2 pm. In fields bars open at 6pm. Tip for the girl depends. I normally gave P300. When I was in the bar I give a girl about 3 till 5 lady's drinks (each drink is P150 and half is for the girl). Sometimes I give a girl P500 when she was really good to me. Most of the girls are the breadwinner for there family. When they just get thte P200 more they just can get to send some more the the family.
Because of the electon that has been there is something new in the bars on Fields. Instead of saying I barfine a girl you have to say Gotta. It means you buy the girl in 1 time 8 drinks and that would be equal to the barfine. In the Camelot they use this term very good but in other bars not. To be safe you say just to the girl of the waitress that you get the girl and than you are safe and they know what you want.
Later I send my report with some pics. I have some tips about finding the right girl that can be not a failure when you take her home. Always ask how long a girl works in the bar. I have myself 2 barfines of a girl who I was first customer to. F. K only 5 minutes and than no more. To much pain and sometimes blood. Always ask if the girl had before european or american man. Girls who only be with philipina or Chinese or korean are still virgin for us and cannot be good in the bed. To much pain and blood. That is not what we came for guys. But always be nice and gentle to the girls no matter what. The 2 times I was with a first timer (first customer) is was gentle with the girls. Also always ask if the have period or it is coming soon. I had 2 times a barfine that the girl I have get her menstration while doing it in the room. And than you have to stop what you are doing and no more.
If you have any questions, write to the forum and I tell you. I've been now 5 times to Angeles already, have had a girlfriend from the bar there 3 years ago so I know a lot. Not all but I have new recent experience. By the way, I've been to almost any bar in Fields so I know about the bars how they are know too.
Good luck,
Beat Pro
[QUOTE=Pavlohh]Hi,
I am planning a trip to Angeles in July and needed some information.
To get to Angeles from manila airport how long is the journey and what is the cost.
Also any hotel recommedation would be grateful budget about 50$ per night.
I see on the forum bar fines are p1000 is this correct and is this just for the bar or is it for the girl also. What would be the normal tip for the girls.
Cheers,
Pavlohh[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=White Shark]I would like to know if there are some gym (maybe with sauna and steam bath) around town (I’ll probably stay at Orchid Resort) and nice place to jogging and run (especially in the morning) to keep up some fitness[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Since you guys are staying at the Orchid group, check out the hotel inside Casino Filipino (five minute walk) where there is a gym. Not sure about the facilities because I have never checked it out for myself.
Holiday Inn Resort at Clarkfield has an off site gym but they charge a substantial fee for the privilege to use the facilities.
Finally, if your really into running/hiking, check out this group: [url]www.angeles-hash.com/index.htm[/url]. They have organized runs every Sunday amongst other activities.
Thanks guys for your advice and help, I was chatting with a pal and he suggest me that Pacific Breeze Hotel is better place then Orchid /Wild Orchid,
What are your opinion and recommendation from value x money to other aspect?
[QUOTE=White Shark]Thanks guys for your advice and help, I was chatting with a pal and he suggest me that Pacific Breeze Hotel is better place then Orchid /Wild Orchid,
What are your opinion and recommendation from value x money to other aspect?[/QUOTE]
Hello WS,
PBH is without a doubt the best value in AC. I stayed there back in March and their service and attitude are superior. Wild Orchid does have a better bar/restaurant in my opinion. If you do stay at PBH, make sure you specify a room in the main building as the annex is still a work in progress.
Have a great trip!
[QUOTE=Imperial521]As a younger guy I tend to gravitate to the older ladies. Are there a lot of 30+ ladies in Angel City? Where is the best place to find them?[/QUOTE]
Just barfine the mamasans!
Over 28 is old in the bar girl trade, and I've had a few around that age who were truly amazing (bar girl and non bar girl). If you like the older ones you might even want to hit up the matchmaking sites. Those older ladies, with a kid or two, know that they're pass the "sell by" date. They can be very accomodating.
I think FW has some good advice here, but even then you might be looking for a diamond in the rough. If she's an ex-bar girl, she may have quite a few tricks up here sleeve. On the other hand, if she's a battle axe that was hired to keep the girls in line, you might want to pass.
I'll never forget a mamasan I met in Pattaya who kept her pen stuck in her ample cleavage. She was the 2nd hottest girl in the bar. And probably the best sexer.
X Man
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Just barfine the mamasans![/QUOTE]
Not all mamasons can be had. But when you frequent a bar and you get to know some of the Mamasons alot can and will happen. I am well known in Lolipop as well as Champayne. I have bf Mamason at both places. The one at Lolipop was a true experience. The first time I asked her she was shocked an agreed to go bar hopping. She was 38 years old. After bar hopping she bought me something to eat! Then I said well I think I will go back to Hotel to crash. She stated ok that she would come with me for her husband was abroad in Hong Kong and missed having a good man to hold her at night. Well she came back to my Hotel and OMG what a animal. She was well aware of technique and what she wanted. I felt like I was the one being used! For I could not sleep because once I was done she was wanting more and more. There is alot to be said to the older experience ladies thats for sure! So from personal experience. YES! Mamasan's can be had. Just show them that you are a good guy and enjoy fun!
Hi Guys,
It has been some days for me in Angeles City in June 2007. Due to my ex filipina girlfriend who i just broke up with i could not stay longer than 15 days. I tell you almost every night i had another girl to taste. When i arrive in Manilla my holiday did not begin good. I book a transportation via Margarita station to pick me up. I book transport 3 times before via them. But this time they just didn´t show up. I look 30 minutes for the driver, but no driver. So i go with airport taxi to Angeles. I arrive 2 am in Angeles. I first stay in Sunset Garden for the first 2 nights. In Sunset Garden i take quick a shower, i shave myself and i eat candybar. Then quick with trycikle to Fields. Because it was already 2.30 am and most bars close at 3 am i go directly to Camelot. I had good experience before. I come inside, buy San Miguel beer and look at the girls on stage. Before i know it a girl sit next to me and begin talking to me. I be polite and buy her a drink. She was nice and good looking. Before i know it was 2.55 am. She tell me you pick a girl sir to take to your hotel. I sad to her i cannot make a choice. Then i ask her if she is still a virgin. She said no. She was 21 years old, name May, slim girl with small souso, but very nice talking and laughing. The music stopped already and then i said to myself i want someone with me tonight. So i tell her i barfine her. All the other girls were already away. I was last customer inside and May go get on her clothes to get with me. When she come back i pay to mamasan the barfine and for the drinks and i took May and we go barhop. We go to Insomnia(open till 4am) and after that to Dollhouse. At 5 am it was enough for me and we go back to hotel. We take shower seperatly and after that we play. She was good in the bed and nice talking partner. The next night i barfine her again. It was fun with May the first 2 days of my stay in Angeles. Later in my holiday i try to find her again in Camelot but she already was with other customer to Bagiuo. So no more May for me to see.
During my stay of the 15 days she was on of my top 3 girls. Good looking, good in the bed and nice personallity.
Beat Pro
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Hi Guys,
Here Beatpro.
Here is some advice I have for you when you are in Angeles city. Advice of bars and knowlegde what you can use to pick a right girl for you take to your hotel. Look at the picture page for 10 pictures I upload of the girls I have been with in Angeles.
I have been to almost every bar in Fields. Here are the best bars to my oppionion. Camelot, Lancelot, La Pasha, Carousel, La Bamba, Insomnia, Bunny Ranch. Dollhouse is nice to go to for barhop. I never pick a girl there but there is good looking dancers too. I hear and read in forum Dollhouse is a rip off. So that is why I did not try to barfine a girl. If you like to sing you go to Blue Berry Hill. Also nice to go to with your girl for barhopping.
1 week before I came there was a raid in the bar of Blue Nile and Neros. All dancers and staff was arrested. The 2 bars were closed for several days. Because of that they use now in some bars not the word Barfine anymore but Cotta. It means that you buy the girl at 1 time 8 drinks. For real you don't buy the drinks but just pay for 8 drinks in one time. Barfine or Cotta at Fields is P 1, 200. Half for the bar, half for the lady. At Permiter Road barfine is P 1, 000.
When in a bar and you see someone nice just ask the waitress that you buy her a drink or get eye contact and wave with your hand so the girl comes. First do some small talk. Ask name, age and how long she is in the bar and where she comes from. Important after the first drink ask how long the is working in the bar already. Also ask if she has been with European or American men. If she only been with Filipino or Chinese or Korean guy, you get the problem she is still very tight and the real f. K will be short. To my experience girls who have not been with European of American guy can be not a pleasant night. I have had myself 2 times a girl who was never with European or American guy. The play was only in the hotel 5 minutes and than the girl could not do anymore, to much pain. Also ask to the girl if she have period or it is coming soon. I had 2 times a girl where the period begin while doing her. Not nice and 2 much blood and the girl also wanted to stop.
So for a nice time in the bed choise a girl who has been longer in the bar then 1 month, has been with European guy or American before, has no period and it is not coming. Always use condom but still some girls don't do it. Of all the girls I have been with (13) I did half with condum, half without. I know the f. K was much better without. Sometime I begin with condum and then the girl takes it off after some possision. For the use of medicine for in the room performance, always use it to my oppinion, your little willy if working for sure. My tip I use always Viagra 100 mg. Before in my other trip I had the most beautiful girl with me and no hard one because no medicine. Also the medicine makes that you can do 3 rounds. 2 when you come home and one in the morning before the girl goes. Also make pictures of the girl. You can just ask the girl that you want to take picture for yourself of her boobs. Most girls will allow that.
Thats all for now.
Keep up the good work and good luck.
Beatpro
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Well I am off to AC again. Gee whiz you think that maybe my February trip and May trip would have cured me for a bit! Nope just aint so! I will stay at my favorite spot the Wild Orchid. I thought about less expensive but I am used to Wild Orchid and happy with there place, security, and location. I will make it 3 weeks this time as well. Well. I have not been there in August so I am assuming that this is the low season there am I correct? Of course I am aware that there is always enough "candy" at all the candy stores. Well if anyone going to be in town from 8/8/07 thru 8/26/07. It would be great to chat at "Mo's" or the "Ville". Private message me if interested to chat or need some advice on first time.
I saw this TV special last night on how this Pinoy housemaid conspired to the murder of the wife of an airman stationed at Clark Air Base. This was 10-15 years ago and all but the airman got life w/o parole but the girl and her two brothers from the province that actually did the killing both got 1 year each.
I'd avoid conficts with Pinoys at all costs.
Am in the Philippines for the first time and will be in Quezon City until the 14th.
Trip came about on short notice, so I'm still RTFF, but if anyone's in the area and wants to meet up for a drink or something one of these evenings, do send me a PM.
Anyone ever been asked to pay a barfine on the girls day off? Never happened to me before last week. Spent Sunday with a girl then went back to the same bar on Monday and mamasan told me I had to pay the barfine for Sunday, even though it was a confirmed day off. I have no problem compensating the girl for her time, but why should the bar get a cut of what she chooses to do in her free time?
When I was there in February I met a girl at SM mall.come to find out it was her day from Angel Witch. I took her to Jolibees in mall and she said that it was her day off and that she would be willing to meet me at Hotel in few hours and we could go swimming. Well she explained to me that the bar considers the girls "theirs" even if its a day off and ESPECIALLY if it is a foriegn man that is NOT Filopino. Well she said to not say anything and to keep low profile and she does not say anything. Well I gave her P1000 for the evening and night to which she left me the following day to go to work at 4PM. I went to see her at work the night she worked and we pretended we just met and off we went. This time with her girlfriend as well! So yes. Bars don't like the girls going off on there own especially on there day off. I guess they fear of income loss if girl leaves with guy for good.
Well, what did you do and how did they react? What did the girl say? What bar?
The only way I can see this is if you barfined her and then she missed work the next night. As far as I know, the girl gets fined for this. What you describe is different.
Once I picked up a girl who was on steady barfine. She didn't want the mamasan to see her. I guess the mamasan would disapprove of her cheating on her steady barfine.
I suppose the mamsan saw you and the girl out and about and went fishing for your cash. Let me guess, you refused and then she said it would come out of the girl's pay. Then you felt sorry for the girl and paid the money. Am I right?
X Man
[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]Anyone ever been asked to pay a barfine on the girls day off? Never happened to me before last week. Spent Sunday with a girl then went back to the same bar on Monday and mamasan told me I had to pay the barfine for Sunday, even though it was a confirmed day off. I have no problem compensating the girl for her time, but why should the bar get a cut of what she chooses to do in her free time?[/QUOTE]
I can't exactly understand what you mean. Are you saying that the three murderers were sentences to life, but served only one year each?
Was the airman in on it?
X Man
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]I saw this TV special last night on how this Pinoy housemaid conspired to the murder of the wife of an airman stationed at Clark Air Base. This was 10-15 years ago and all but the airman got life w/o parole but the girl and her two brothers from the province that actually did the killing both got 1 year each.
I'd avoid conficts with Pinoys at all costs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well she said to not say anything and to keep low profile and she does not say anything. Well I gave her P1000 for the evening and night to which she left me the following day to go to work at 4PM. [/QUOTE]
Can confirm, I have done same thing before since the gals are quite keen to get their 1,200ps without sharing.
But don't be seen too much with the girl in the streets. Better most of the time in-room.
Also sometimes girls from Fields-Bars come to visit me ST in the afternoon before their work.
-->low profile, don't tell anyone, just enjoy 2-4hrs afternoon fun, pay 800-1,000 ST, let her come to room alone and let her leave alone.
Looking forward to 20th July.................. :D
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]Anyone ever been asked to pay a barfine on the girls day off? Never happened to me before last week. Spent Sunday with a girl then went back to the same bar on Monday and mamasan told me I had to pay the barfine for Sunday, even though it was a confirmed day off. I have no problem compensating the girl for her time, but why should the bar get a cut of what she chooses to do in her free time?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know a bargirl who is so honest that she will collect barfine for day off and will turn it in.
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, what did you do and how did they react? What did the girl say? What bar?
The only way I can see this is if you barfined her and then she missed work the next night. As far as I know, the girl gets fined for this. What you describe is different.
Once I picked up a girl who was on steady barfine. She didn't want the mamasan to see her. I guess the mamasan would disapprove of her cheating on her steady barfine.
I suppose the mamsan saw you and the girl out and about and went fishing for your cash. Let me guess, you refused and then she said it would come out of the girl's pay. Then you felt sorry for the girl and paid the money. Am I right?
X Man[/QUOTE]Good guess, but not quite what I did. I did refuse, the mamasan did say it would come out of the girls pay, but I still didn't pay the barfine. As I had already more than fairly compensated the girl, both with cash and taking her and her friends out, I told her it was up to her to pay her fine since she had not been clear with me about the supposed rules. She didn't seem to care, and said she thought it was bullshit as well. Also said that particular mamasan had been getting greedy recently. I'm not sure what the girl ended up doing. I'm pretty sure the bar will get that money, one way or another. She said she was gonna switch to a new bar because business hadn't been good recently, which may explain the fishing for cash from the bar. I'm not here to spread bad word about anybody so I won't mention bars or names. But I had been in this bar numerous times and as I said before, had never been asked to pay barfine for days off. On my next trip I'll be taking my business elsewhere.
Husky Babalin ( QUOTEI think there is a big difference in Orchid and Wild Orchid. WO is more roomier and more upscale. IMHO ! Husky )
thanks, what do you think from a value for money point of view and what is your recomandation?
looking forward to be in ac soon and enjoy my vacation.
[QUOTE=Dcand4] YES! Mamasan's can be had. Just show them that you are a good guy and enjoy fun![/QUOTE]
True, some more mature woman - like mamasans - are a much better f**k than the 19 years old kids on stage! However, from all mamasans I met in the past only 5% were worth a barfine. And bear in mind, they usually cannot leave the bar during working hours.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Thanks for the reply. You decide not to name names, up to you. I have two thoughts on this.
1) From what you say, this place is going downhill, and it's probably best to avoid a place that has unhappy girls and unhappy customers. PM me the name of the place! I'll be in AC next week.
2) Maybe the owner / manager doesn't know the extent of this discontent, and should know. An astute manager should know that the Internet can pass on discontent exponentionally. Does the place have a web site or email address. Send in your complaint.
One of these bar owners should team up with a mamasan and a few gals and write a book. I would buy it. I'd especially like to read these chapters:
New girls and how we train them
Cherry girls and how we profit from deflowering
The bribes we pay
Worst customer / Worst GRO
[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]Good guess, but not quite what I did. I did refuse, the mamasan did say it would come out of the girls pay, but I still didn't pay the barfine. As I had already more than fairly compensated the girl, both with cash and taking her and her friends out, I told her it was up to her to pay her fine since she had not been clear with me about the supposed rules. She didn't seem to care, and said she thought it was bullshit as well. Also said that particular mamasan had been getting greedy recently. I'm not sure what the girl ended up doing. I'm pretty sure the bar will get that money, one way or another. She said she was gonna switch to a new bar because business hadn't been good recently, which may explain the fishing for cash from the bar. I'm not here to spread bad word about anybody so I won't mention bars or names. But I had been in this bar numerous times and as I said before, had never been asked to pay barfine for days off. On my next trip I'll be taking my business elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
You've gotten some great recommendations, now what else do you want? Husky gave enough detail for you to make your decision. Why do you belabor the point?
Check the website, look at the pictures, make your reservation based on your budget. Then, after your trip, you can tell us which Orchid has the best value.
Try to be a big boy...or should I say shark. If you show the same indecisiveness in the Philippines, I suspect you'll get fleeced soon enough.
Oh, Orchid? Have you made your reservation yet?
X Man
[QUOTE=White Shark]Husky Babalin ( QUOTEI think there is a big difference in Orchid and Wild Orchid. WO is more roomier and more upscale. IMHO ! Husky )
thanks, what do you think from a value for money point of view and what is your recomandation?
looking forward to be in ac soon and enjoy my vacation.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Im back in the PI last week July/first week august, so if anybody wana meet up just PM me.
I try to get a room in pacific breeze depends what rate they quote me pesos. before I stay in Dm, its a gud price, but a bit run down now, but for 1000p its ok, also locationwise.
2 rules in AC
1 st rule: your a foreigner you have to pay for evrything, you have money, your rich
2nd rule: look up 1st rule :D
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
Im back in the PI last week July/first week august, so if anybody wana meet up just PM me.
I try to get a room in pacific breeze depends what rate they quote me pesos. before I stay in Dm, its a gud price, but a bit run down now, but for 1000p its ok, also locationwise.
2 rules in AC
1 st rule: your a foreigner you have to pay for evrything, you have money, your rich
2nd rule: look up 1st rule :D[/QUOTE]
You forgot 3rd rule: No matter how much money you have, you leave poor.
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Hi Blink, I arrive AC Aug 6 , will you still be around ? Thanks Husky
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
Im back in the PI last week July/first week august, so if anybody wana meet up just PM me.
TE][/QUOTE]
Hi,
Im the whole august in the PI, plan to go to different locations, depdns on the weather and how early I will get up in the morning ( LOL)
I wil PM you uthen Husky.
FW you right, I thought PI is cheap, but dam I spend so much money there, comparing to home, Im not a bellringer neither Im one of ths gus who feel gud if I spent evry gurl in the bar a drink...bt 6000 on a party night in ac is not uncommon, specialy if you know the papa sans and specially if they drunk too :D and in Ac you can party a lot...:D
Im in a bit of trouble cause I have some regular gurls there, not sure how I gona manage it, specially now one of this nice solo dancers in dollhouse is my gf..she calls me asawa now..hope its all bola2, but you never know :D
Im thinkin if Im gona post her picture here......she is selling her fotos for 500 p lol.and guys buy it :D
Then I have to go out with soe of my "friends" hopefully I find one who I can share (specialy the bills hehehe :D)
Whenever I go to R&B (club with live music upperfields/perimter road) I feel I see the same people there allways, then you have to sign the bills and I allways know if your in a place where you have to sign for ur drinks/fuds etc they cheat you...its justthat Im not capable to calcuate all this around 3 am after san migues, shots etc...
4 weeks to go...countdown is running....
Happy hunting
B
[QUOTE=Blink157] I thought PI is cheap, but dam I spend so much money there,[/QUOTE]
The Philippines was cheap. Peso is now 45.6 to the dollar. Not so cheap anymore, but still fun.
[QUOTE=Blink157][QUOTE=Husky Babalin]
Im in a bit of trouble cause I have some regular gurls there, not sure how I gona manage it, specially now one of this nice solo dancers in dollhouse is my gf..she calls me asawa now..hope its all bola2, but you never know :D
Im thinkin if Im gona post her picture here......she is selling her fotos for 500 p lol.and guys buy it :D
B[/QUOTE]
Might be a good idea to post her pic, especially if you are not her only "asawa" on this site. I hope she is not the Tbird who is one of the solo dancers!
I'll be there then if anyone wants to barhop.
Hi All,
I'm going to PI for the first time in a few months. Can you all tell me the prices of food, transportation, lodging, custom clothing, and other non-bar stuff in PI vs Thailand ? Same Same but different or Same Same ?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=FireWalker][QUOTE=Blink157]
Might be a good idea to post her pic, especially if you are not her only "asawa" on this site. I hope she is not the Tbird who is one of the solo dancers![/QUOTE]
hahahaha....
ok I post her pics in the foto section later this day..
to all: would be a great idea if we meet up somewhere central...5pm is a gud time..
Keep in touch
Blink
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Firewalker , Will keep an eye out for you !
As a matter of fact may I suggest a meeting of ISG members in AC August 7. May I also suggest a Central Location and Time such as Lollipop at 5PM .
What do you guys think ? Husky
How about some feedback on this subject Guys ! Husky[/QUOTE]Hi Husky and all,
I am new on this board but not to the hobby, been around quite a bit. I come as an AC "cherry" from July 28 to Aug 2.
I would be pleased to meet fellow forum members while there, so can I suggest we move the ISG meeting to an earlier date, like July 30 for example? For the location and time, I would leave it to you guys, you are the local experts after all; )
Hope to see you soon.
Hi Husky Blink FireWalker and all,
I am new to the board and this is my first message, even if I have been around a few places of interest (Rio, Bangkok)
I will be coming as an AC "cherry" from July 28 to Aug 2. Can I humbly suggest we have as well an ISG meeting a little bit earlier? , for example July 30, I believe some of us will be in AC at this date.
For the location and time, I would leave to you guys, you're the local experts after all; )
Hope to see you all soon. Well, to be honest I also hope to see nice ladies while there!
Hey Husky
What a great idea. Wish I could be there to join you. Have fun.
Egg
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]As a matter of fact may I suggest a meeting of ISG members in AC August 7. May I also suggest a Central Location and Time such as Lollipop at 5PM . [/QUOTE]
Too bad, I'm in AC end of July and end of August, but not early August.
Would really like to join the fun.
Enjoy!
Lolipop is my hang out!
I will be there on 7th of August at 5PM!
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Firewalker , Will keep an eye out for you !
As a matter of fact may I suggest a meeting of ISG members in AC August 7. May I also suggest a Central Location and Time such as Lollipop at 5PM .
What do you guys think ? Husky
PS: Planning a Beach Party shortly thereafter. Price of admission 3 BarFines.
The plan is to head to the Beach for one overnite. Each Member carry 3 girls , if we have 5 members we would be up to about 15 girls. This is what we call in Jamaica a Real Baccanal. If it is good enough for Baccus , its good enough for me.
How about some feedback on this subject Guys ! Husky[/QUOTE]
I once did a similiar thing with 3 other guys. We barfined 8 girls (2 each) and fucked for 7 hours. We found that a about 3 were not working out and cut them loose. It is hard to find just the right chemistry with the girls. It is better to do this "in-town" for process of elimination. What beach were you intending? Subic pretty much sucks water wise. It might be better to get a few jacuzzi suites at the Pacific Breeze (or maybe the huge jacuzzi at L'Tinio) and bang from room to room. We can order up a few buckets of sand and pretend its a beach.
Just read on another thread that the these clubs were raided and as a AC regular and heading there late August, I am a bit worried that my favourite club complex has been closed down or had all the gals scared off.
I was wondering if any ISG members have been to these clubs recently and can report on their status?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Bees11]Just read on another thread that the these clubs were raided and as a AC regular and heading there late August, I am a bit worried that my favourite club complex has been closed down or had all the gals scared off.
I was wondering if any ISG members have been to these clubs recently and can report on their status?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Back in business, of course. Apparently, they were pretty clean and this may backfire on the people who instigated the raid.
If you want to go to beach from Angeles, this may be the place. I haven't been there, but maybe someone else here can comment. Can take van from Sunset Gardens, should be less than $20 per person each way.
[QUOTE=Bees11]Just read on another thread that the these clubs were raided and as a AC regular and heading there late August, I am a bit worried that my favourite club complex has been closed down or had all the gals scared off.
I was wondering if any ISG members have been to these clubs recently and can report on their status?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I was in AC in June and at that time the NBI were holding some of the mamasans and managers from the BNG. There were 7 in total. At the present time all have been released. All charges have been dropped and the case dismissed. One can assume that the appropriate monetary considerations have been made to the proper authorities.
You can go to your favorite bars and enjoy your mongering in peace. FYI it is rainy season. The low season, there are many, many girls go and visit the other bars. Champagne, Lancelot, La Pasha, Carousel, Camelot and so on. Get those girls before they get you. Fornicate at your leisure.
This might be where you have the party! [url]http://www.insomniagroup.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=13[/url]
[QUOTE=Lucky Fellow]I spent with a friend four days in AC. We stayed in “Hotel America”. When the bar girls asked, where are we staying and we answered “Hotel America”, then it happened several times, that they giggled and said, that this hotel is a “ghost hotel”. I asked them for an explanation, but I didn’t get one.
My friend had similar experiences. Only one girl of six stayed overnight and she was the only one didn’t ask for the name of the hotel.
I did RTFF, but I didn’t found anything. Therefore, can anyone explain why the girls call this hotel “ghost hotel”? Or does it mean that the hotel is empty like a ghost house? (but it wasn’t)
[/QUOTE]
LOL! I know there is a hotel in AC, where someone died in their room. Can't recall the details or the hotel, but sounds like you were in it.
That's ok. I sure that there are some nice female ghost's that you can Boooo fine! See Through negligee takes on a whole new meaning! Of course they probably have nice Booooobs and finish with an awesome Boooo job! LOL!
Sorry, very lame, but I couldn't resist.
AT2
Well, I've come back from my second trip to Angeles this year. After making all the usual newbie mistakes first time, I promised myself to set some ground rules-they lasted about six hours. First day, barfined three ladies including one from the hotel that I was staying at. Two were fun but the last was a bit of a non-event. Had lined up a pretty young 19-year old from my first visit in February. But as fate would have it I got pissed on the day that I was meant to meet her. No drama, she said that we could hook up next day. Anyway after hearing nothing for her, I started trawling the perimeter bars (my favourite haunts). Met up with a really nice friendly, girl and bar fined her. Next day still nothing from my earlier contact so I went and saw my pretty little perimeter girl. Ended up barfining her for the next four days and of course, fell in lust. Anyway, I am coming back in the next two weeks and intend going away with her for at least a month.
Shagging as many as possible in a given time, I'm sure, is great for some. But for me, if I can get a really good connection, well it makes the experience so much better.
I'm sure that I could have had a lot more boom boom for my buck, but at the end of the day it's how happy you are that I think is important. First time in February, I barfined 10 different ladies over a period of 12 days (One three times). But I think that my last visit was more enjoyable. To each his own I guess.
Finally, there really is no place like AC. I think that I will always have to come back. Not just for the action, but for the sheer bizaareness of the place.
Good mongering to all. I say!
Life is good.
Wazza88,
Thanks for your interesting report on AC.
You said that June was part of the "low season."
I assume that means they are fewer tourists, but are there also fewer GROs and dancers as some may leave to return to their province?
Also, do the girls have better "attitudes" (stay all night rather than tell you about their sick sister, carabou, etc.) and perform better since there may be fewer gents and therefore less barfine and drink income for them?
If so, the low season may be a good time to monger - how long does the low season last?
Thanks for your help!
Laser
[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Eggsalad and Ekspat , Was hoping to meet you guys. Thanks HUSKY[/QUOTE]
Me around in AC 20-25th of July, 17-22nd August
and next then in October as Rhamadhan-Getaway.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=LaserNut]If so, the low season may be a good time to monger - how long does the low season last?
[/QUOTE]
October.
From November till April it's considered high season. But finally it doesn't matter, there are 10 times more gals than customers at any time.
Cheers!
Hi Laser,
Just to answer some of your inquiries,
Low season. June to October. Hotels will be cheaper as they offer low season/rainy season rates.
There will be fewer tourists in the low season and fewer girls but as "Ekspat" says 10 times more girls than customers.
As far as "attitude" of the girl. I cannot say--a runner will always be a runner. The performance of the girl is a subjective thing. You are the one who can take charge of the situation---softly, softly catchee monkey. Respect the girl, smile and joke with her and you willl see the good side
I consider AC as my second home. High/low season (as Ekspat says it does'nt matter) earn the money in a rich country and spend it in a poor one.
You go to AC to immerse yourself in sexual gratification---to satisfy your lustful appetite and seek an immense desire to get your sexual organ sucked by a 19 year old LBFM. Sex is the most beautiful, wholesome and natural experience money can buy.
As far as the so called 1st. World countries viz. You. K. , Australia, USA A. , . Go to your local shopping mall and the food court. Look for the jumbos or small whales AKA white, fat women weighing 150 Kgs. /330 lbs. With the sagging tits and smelly pussies. Then you look to the heaven above and thank God for AC.
To all the good folk, enjoy yourselves in the sexual paradise known as AC. We are not on this earth for a long time better make the most of it.
I have always spent time in AC outside of high season. I think the main difference maybe the choice of hotels. Even in off season some hotels can fill up and limit your choice. As most of the visitors fail to venture off Fields, there can be a concentration of guys in that area anytime of year. There are always girls coming and going all year long. My advice: whenever you can go is a good time to go. Just book ahead if you are going in high season.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Back in business, of course. Apparently, they were pretty clean and this may backfire on the people who instigated the raid.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update FW...I am really looking forward to getting back to AC and the Nile group and hooking into the sexy, sometimes busty but always horny looking drink gals in their very undersized uniforms. I especially like some of the gals in the Bedrock bar.
[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]... including one from the hotel that I was staying at... [/QUOTE]
SD:
Sounds very interesting! Just curiousity, how did you manage it with your 'hotel girl'? I have tried that namely three times at Wild Orchid - with zero success! Do you mind to share your trick with us?
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hesekiels,
You know I stay at Wild Orchid everytime I am there! Three times in the last year and hmmm those Hotel girls at Wild Orchid sure are a pleasure on the eyes but yes, they are untouchable..Which I could find the secret as well.
Hesekiels
Re. My barfining hotel girl. Should have been clearer.
She was a 'waitress' in the in-house bar so no big deal.
SD
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]SD:
Sounds very interesting! Just curiousity, how did you manage it with your 'hotel girl'? I have tried that namely three times at Wild Orchid - with zero success! Do you mind to share your trick with us?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Well for example if you stay in the clarkton hotel you have mirrors bar there. I stayed there once and took 4 of them back to my room in one go! I even stayed in touch with them all (love friendster hahaha! ) and had free sessions with 2 of them last time I was back.
[QUOTE=Park I]Well for example if you stay in the clarkton hotel you have mirrors bar there. I stayed there once and took 4 of them back to my room in one go! I even stayed in touch with them all (love friendster hahaha! ) and had free sessions with 2 of them last time I was back.[/QUOTE]
Park I:
... free sessions? Wow, great - congrats, brother! Unfortunately I never had such a good luck!
Cheers - Hesekiels
I spent 10 days last months in AC. It was the VERY low season.
For the first girl taken in Dirty Dick I was the first customer for three weeks (she was only in the bar for three weeks). The boss a guy from Norway asks me to take care her. I just said that Pouppard is a gentleman with girls. I treat them as my GF.
Barfine was 1300 pesos. Around 20 euros and I tip her with 500 pesos after a three hours short time with two shots. She was very enthousiast. A very good LBFM. She has had Filipino BF before....
Then at Bunny Ranch, I found a stunner... (no name) I was the ONLY customer in the bar... I paid the 1300 barfine... I stay with her a whole week... and gave her 200 euros as a tip... i know that it is too much but she was amazing.
Anyway... in Angeles City it is the VERY low season. Many girls (but few stunners) and not so much customers... And if you are less than 50 years old, you are a young and desirable guy in AC.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]I stay with her a whole week... and gave her 200 euros as a tip... i know that it is too much but she was amazing.
[/QUOTE]
Just to put it into perspective; a girl working in SM has to work more than 2 MONTHS to earn the same amount. But up to you & keep on paying whatever you like :)
( Actually it's quite funny to hear the BG's hilarious stories about milking their punters esp after a cpl SMB "after work" LOL )
A few cool website worth checking out IMHO.
[url]http://www.angelescity.net/[/url]
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]I spent 10 days last months in AC. It was the VERY low season.
For the first girl taken in Dirty Dick I was the first customer for three weeks (she was only in the bar for three weeks). The boss a guy from Norway asks me to take care her. I just said that Pouppard is a gentleman with girls. I treat them as my GF.
Barfine was 1300 pesos. Around 20 euros and I tip her with 500 pesos after a three hours short time with two shots. She was very enthousiast. A very good LBFM. She has had Filipino BF before....
Then at Bunny Ranch, I found a stunner... (no name) I was the ONLY customer in the bar... I paid the 1300 barfine... I stay with her a whole week... and gave her 200 euros as a tip... i know that it is too much but she was amazing.
Anyway... in Angeles City it is the VERY low season. Many girls (but few stunners) and not so much customers... And if you are less than 50 years old, you are a young and desirable guy in AC.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
I say this on this board at nauseum: PLEASE do not over pay for mongering. You spoil the market for yourself and others. The girls talk and expectations rise, they get spoiled. Do you want Phils to get like Thailand where money is everthing - as a result of stupid short term visitors throwing their money around? You do far better for the market by flushing your money down the toilet. The irony of it is the girls actually have a laugh at the guys who overpay. Also do not say Phils is so cheap compared to US / Europe - they are different markets.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]I say this on this board at nauseum: PLEASE do not over pay for mongering. You spoil the market for yourself and others. The girls talk and expectations rise, they get spoiled.[/QUOTE]
Fastpiston,
We're already there, more or less. Just let them pay their 200 Euros and feel good about themselves (I hope they tip their French GF's a couple thousand Euros per week too). When they are gone, and the girls have their dire needs and emergencies, such as Jollibee cravings etc, 200 Pesos will be just as (or even more) welcome.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston] The irony of it is the girls actually have a laugh at the guys who overpay.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I love hearing the stories from the girls about "stupid, fucking Mike in US" who just sent 200 US.. (BTW if you're Mike..this is a recent AC BG quote lol)
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]if you are less than 50 years old, you are a young and desirable guy in AC.[/QUOTE]
If you're under 100 with wallet & some pulse you will be desirable and handsome guy in AC.
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]I spent 10 days last months in AC. It was the VERY low season.
For the first girl taken in Dirty Dick I was the first customer for three weeks (she was only in the bar for three weeks). The boss a guy from Norway asks me to take care her. I just said that Pouppard is a gentleman with girls. I treat them as my GF.
Barfine was 1300 pesos. Around 20 euros and I tip her with 500 pesos after a three hours short time with two shots. She was very enthousiast. A very good LBFM. She has had Filipino BF before....
Then at Bunny Ranch, I found a stunner... (no name) I was the ONLY customer in the bar... I paid the 1300 barfine... I stay with her a whole week... and gave her 200 euros as a tip... i know that it is too much but she was amazing.
Anyway... in Angeles City it is the VERY low season. Many girls (but few stunners) and not so much customers... And if you are less than 50 years old, you are a young and desirable guy in AC.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]Pute Nut and Fastpiston.
Fortunately it is the minority over paying for mongering. Some newbie Europeans, some Japanese and some Koreans. It is not the general rule.
Poupard2000 was obviously a newbie on his cherry trip. For example, he barfines a stunner for one week and she gets 7x p650=p4350 plus (200 euros) another p13, 000. All up some p17, 000 for one week! WTF. This person was obviously thinking with his little head. (no flame intended here).
Hopefully, people like this are far and few between and do not come to AC that often. JMHO
[QUOTE=Wazza88] ... some newbie Europeans, some Japanese and some Koreans. It is not the general rule...
[/QUOTE]
Wazza88:
And even if the Koreans over tip, so what? No matter if it is the general rule, or not! As long as the official prices for a barfine do not rise it's no big deal at all! Last April one cuty from Lancelot asked me in the morning for a 2,000 (!) peso tip ("because the Koreans give me always that much"). But due to her lousy performance she left with not even one additional centavo ("hey, girl, I had no fun with you and furthermore I am no Korean, understood"!?)! What could she do except being utterly disgusted? Virtually nothing!
Gentlemen, be wise and keep in mind, the decision about any tip is always up to you! Consequently I am wondering how newbies or Koreans could spoil the market for the rest of us? Maybe somebody can enlighten me?
For good orders sake, depending on my level of satisfaction I usually tip with 300 to 500 pesos max! Sure, for some mates that's already too much, whereas others might consider me as a 'Cheap Charlie'! Purely a matter of taste, but again, so what?!
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
I just received a text from an AC bargirl. It seems that some are now asking for 3, 000 pesos per day. Let's just say "NO!"
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]It seems that some are now asking for 3, 000 pesos per day. [/quote]
As barfine or what do you mean?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]As barfine or what do you mean?[/QUOTE]
Must be the barfine for a 'Stardancer' from Dollhouse!?
Not barfine. She was a former bargirl. Now, a FL with her other beautiful girlfriends. They have sponsors, but always looking for "side" money. But wants 3, 000 pesos per day for her company. Don't worry. I said "No"! But I had heard of other girls talking about the number 3, 000. And I know that Dollhouse showgirls BF is 3, 000. I was just thinking that the number 3, 000 is becoming a bargirl's goal.
I've been to Thailand several times, but never been to the Philippines before. I plan on visiting Angeles City mid-August for about a week.
Any suggestions or words of wisdom?
[QUOTE=James Bowen]Any suggestions or words of wisdom?[/QUOTE]
Hello JB,
Welcome to the forum! Your question is too general. What you need to do is go back and read through the previous reports. You will find plenty of wit and wisdom dating back almost 5 years! In a nutshell visiting AC is a "No brainer".
Have a good trip!
Well do your homework and read reports in last 6 months and you will have a pretty good indication how it all is in Angeles. The major difference from Philippines verse Thailand is that in the Philippines the girls are more girlfriend related where they try to get you hook to support them after you leave. Some want to come to USA and generally you are there ticket out of the third world country. Its a different kind of game here cuz in Thailand the girls don't want to leave There country and they just want your money! Philippines is same way but the head games where girl says she loves you is common after a 10 minute conversation with her. Remember most of it is a game and yes there are some that really do want boyfriend. If your a sucker for tears and gulible for lies then maybe you should stick with Thailand. If you understand the game then know that Angeles is an Adult Disney land where you are the super star and every girl dreams to be in your bed tonight for as little as P1000 to P1300. Godd luck and read read and read past reports! Still have question when you get there go to Kokomos and talk to a monger there who will give you the ins and outs.
Yes go out early about 7pm and BF a girl b4 you get the old beer goggles.
same BF price for stunner or pig ugly so get in quick!
Take her around the clubs and look for the girl for tomorrow night.
If i was with friends I sometimes left the girl at the bar and came back for her at about midnight.
try not to take girls from same bar, if they see you taking different girl every night you will get black ball as i did. Spread it about!
Swiss Chalet is a good hotel, central and has wi-fi. 1480 p per night
(only problem is they are building hotel next door so could be noisey)
BF = 1200p to 1500 for models
beer 60 -85P
girls tip 300-500
bye a local sim card, cant remember how much about 300p with credit
Picture of girl is from Bedrock form my trip in June! 5 days with her. It was very sad to say goodbye!
[QUOTE=James Bowen]I've been to Thailand several times, but never been to the Philippines before. I plan on visiting Angeles City mid-August for about a week.
Any suggestions or words of wisdom?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]BF = 1200p to 1500 for models
beer 60 -85P
girls tip 300-500
bye a local sim card, cant remember how much about 300p with credit
[/QUOTE]
Please. Gentlemen. For the umpteenth time:
BFs are [b]all inclusive[/b] in AC and thus include full payment for the girls´ services. The girls share corresponds to several days´ hard vertical work for a non-BG. Not bad for an uneducated country bumpkin to spread her legs and dream of her pinoy trike driver BF. In addition to this she gets the LD commission from the drinks you bought her.
Any dicretionary tip for services rendered that are above adequate is [b]entirely up to you - the "costumer".[/b]
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Not barfine. She was a former bargirl. Now, a FL with her other beautiful girlfriends. They have sponsors, but always looking for "side" money. But wants 3, 000 pesos per day for her company. Don't worry. I said "No"! But I had heard of other girls talking about the number 3, 000. And I know that Dollhouse showgirls BF is 3, 000. I was just thinking that the number 3, 000 is becoming a bargirl's goal.[/QUOTE]She's back to earth now. Now willing to go for 1, 300 per day. I can deal with that. These girls really push you when they can.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Picture of girl is from Bedrock form my trip in June! 5 days with her. It was very sad to say goodbye![/QUOTE]Wow, what a doll. I hope I run up on a babe like her in AC.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]She's back to earth now. Now willing to go for 1, 300 per day. I can deal with that. These girls really push you when they can.[/QUOTE]Is that in Angeles City? Dude, as a freelancer? Fuck that.
Are you back to earth?
If we fly air asia from KL we land in Clark base, please may I know how far is LA from the air port, or it is nearer to head for Manila.
Thank you
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]She's back to earth now. Now willing to go for 1, 300 per day. I can deal with that. These girls really push you when they can.[/QUOTE]hi,
Flyin to Pi in less then 2 weeks and also see my gf of the time in dollhouse again. She is now a solodancer and will go for 3k, but tht doesnt mean she wil fxxk the guy, or just with korean or japanase clientle. In and out and finish. She is sexy and pretty and was fun when I as with her. If she now ask for 3k somebody else can take her LOL. I have gurls lined up for me and I don't pay that price. Except she is a really hot stunner and I'm madly in love (which never happens to me to any bargurl in AC)
I tod her to chnage to doorgurl then I don't mind to take her out, she was a doorgurl before and changed to solodancer now (look up my post in photosection)
Just remember, those gurl will allways ask and ask and ask and nomatter what you give its not enough, cause you the FAFA with money and you have to pay LOL.
If the gurl of your desire doesnt like you, don't spend time to push it. Maybe there is a cutie in the next place who will give you the time of your life. Don't give money, buy gifts, clothes if you feel comfortable with her.
Happy hunting
Blink
To the guy looking for older girls,
I, too, like the older ladies.
I recommend Dirty Duck. You enter, turn right, sit down on that side of the room, and Marissa and Raquel will take care of you. Friendly and funny ladies in their 30s. Wise and gentle. You won't be disappointed in them in the bar or in the sack.
Marissa could stand to lose 10 pounds and Raquel could gain 10 -- so nobody's perfect.
I like the relaxed vibe in that bar -- just as long as it is not too dead it is fun. Because it is quieter you can talk and meet the girls easily. Other bars are too loud for good conversation.
Ok I've been running though past posts as suggested and seeing how much I should be paying for things and which bars are good and which aren't and came across a few comments about ATMs and the mall that got my radar going.
From what I've seen it's hard to come across an ATM in the area. Would it be wise to bring lots of money with you an exchange it at the airport once arrived in the country or is that not really the case?
How far away from Fields Ave and all the action is the SM Mall and is it really worth going to?
Does AC have a curfew for their bars like Bangkok now has or are the bars and clubs more or less open 24/7?
That's it for now, thanks for your help.
I notice that every once in a while mongers complain that the Japanese and Koreans are jacking up expectations by giving big tips. I feel your pain, but I can't exactly agree that they're stupid.
I have to argue that it's a cultural and societal thing. Most of the Asian mongers are married, and Asians have much shorter vacations. Often just one full week a year, taken with the wife, and then a couple of three or four-day "secret" vacations with other mongers. So the time they spend in Angeles is their one big opportunity to enjoy life and feel like a million bucks.
An easy way to feel good is to give a big tip. A big tip being anything above US$20 or 1, 000 pesos. Since prostitution isn't common or even legal in most Western countries, you Westerns might not realize it, but P4P is prevalent, but incredibly expensive in Japan and Korea. Even a 15-minute quickie in Seoul, where I live, costs US$70 these days. However, the more common experience is a Karaoke-type establishment where just for the company and alcohol a group of 4 guys usually end up playing US$1, 000 (not a typo). And that's before the sex.
Sex, one time, no stay over, will cost several hundred US dollars. Tipping is not common in Asia, but if they were to tip one of these girls, even US$50 wouldn't make much of a difference to them.
And of course, everything else in Japan or Korea can be light years more expensive than in the good ole US. A decent (not impressive) date with dinner, drinks, and a movie for two, will easily run US$100-150. With US$50 or 60 tacked on for the two-hour stay at the love motel.
In other words, a US$20 tip to a hot Filipina whom you barfined for US$25-30 for the whole night is absolutely no big deal on your one or two wild trips a year.
I explain this because I feel it is a source of continual, although low-level, tension between Westerners and Asians. I'm just hoping to clear the air a bit.
Ironically, Americans who come from a country where tipping is mandatory, complain about large trips given by men from countries where tipping is not common.
Think of it this way. Since Japan and Korea don't have tipping cultures, and they have so little personal direct contact with other cultures, they have no idea how outsized their tips are, that it can cause problems for other mongers, or that there's anything wrong with it.
All of that said, it's pretty easy to avoid too many problems. Filipinas know Japanese and Korean are the big tippers. They don't really expect such large tips from foreigners on a regular basis. They're just using their previous large tips as pressure, in the hopes of another big tip. Also, the girls are generally young and ignorant, so they don't understand the huge difference in culture between Western and Eastern.
So when a Filipina asks you for a big tip, mentioning how her Japanese boyfriend gives her 2, 000 pesos each time he visits her, just say, "Well, I'm American, and I'm different. " It never feels quite good, but life is a series of compromises, and you can't really blame a girl from trying, can you?
And take pity on me, since I'm American, but also Korean. I expect to tip American, but I'm expected to tip Korean.
[QUOTE=Vox Jox]To the guy looking for older girls,
I, too, like the older ladies.
I recommend Dirty Duck. You enter, turn right, sit down on that side of the room, and Marissa and Raquel will take care of you. Friendly and funny ladies in their 30s. Wise and gentle. You won't be disappointed in them in the bar or in the sack.
Marissa could stand to lose 10 pounds and Raquel could gain 10 -- so nobody's perfect.
I like the relaxed vibe in that bar -- just as long as it is not too dead it is fun. Because it is quieter you can talk and meet the girls easily. Other bars are too loud for good conversation.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
good that we have guys like you in town. Dont forget also the gurls with 4 kids, the one with no teeths, also the gurls who jump on you right after you enter a bar and sit for 2 minutes. Yes, those who ask you straight to buy them a drink and also their friends. Or those who make this gesture to where the gurlds dancing on stage and then ask for drinks, thinking those made them also qualified for getting a drink.
also thank you to the guyss who overpay. Im sure evry trike driver boyfren when seeing them will salute....hmmm well some (but only the bad ones) might wait them early morning for a hold up, cause surely thos guy who spend so much on tipping had some money left in his pocket for the trike-on-drugs-angeles city foundation LOL.
Sorry.cant resist to post this one here.
Seriously, if you pay more or tip I doubt you get a better service, cause you had that allready, right?? pay 2oo to 300 or if she really suck you dry, give her a 500 note, also if you want her to come to you again. Last thing I also did once, but she dont ever come with me again, cause some other guy tipped her 3000 pesos!!!!
if you like 40 or older womeen, feel free to come to my country. Plenty of here around (LOL) Sorry, no offense guys.
I will cal my gf now in Dollhouse and lets see whats new there, if some Bloke pay steady barfine, we talkin bout 30/50 000 pesos a month ( ahahhhhahaha LOL unbelievble, specially if the guy left and she fxxk someboy else for free LOL)
11 days to go!!
happy hunting, watch your bucks its LOW season now :D
Blink
[QUOTE=James Bowen]Ok I've been running though past posts as suggested and seeing how much I should be paying for things and which bars are good and which aren't and came across a few comments about ATMs and the mall that got my radar going.
From what I've seen it's hard to come across an ATM in the area. Would it be wise to bring lots of money with you an exchange it at the airport once arrived in the country or is that not really the case?
How far away from Fields Ave and all the action is the SM Mall and is it really worth going to?
Does AC have a curfew for their bars like Bangkok now has or are the bars and clubs more or less open 24/7?
That's it for now, thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]James,
You can go to the ATMs in SM ...they are reliable. Take out what you need for a few days. The mall is about a 10 minute walk from check-point(Field Ave.)
Bring cash with you....do not change too much at the airport (rate is lower). Go to Normas and change your money. Put your money, passport and valuables in the hotel safe.
No curfew on bars , normally open 6pm-3am/7pm-4am mainly Field Ave. The Perimeter bars open earlier.
As you are going in the low/rainy season you can negotiate with the hotels regarding room rates. There are many girls, you just have a problem of deciding which one to go with.
Have a good trip.
Bk BIG FISH.
If you read the posts carefully (#777, #782)--there is mention of one person who paid a tip of 200 Euros after being with the girl for one week. No one mentions Koreans or Japanese as being stupid.
No one is against tipping as it is up to the customer. However, giving a girl 200 Euros after one week would be (IMHO) a little excessive.
When you mention Japan/Korea and customs in those countries regarding regarding mongering and tipping and then talk of AC, you are comparing apples with oranges.
You say " Filipinas know Japanese and Koreans are the big tippers. " IMHO this is not true. I have spoken to some girls in Agaysa and Las Vegas (both Korean owned clubs attracting a majority Korean clientle) and some Koreans tip 3, 000p, some tip 1, 000p and some do not tip.
In my experience, I have never had a girl ask me for a tip.
Now you have a good one.
[QUOTE=James Bowen]Ok I've been running though past posts as suggested and seeing how much I should be paying for things and which bars are good and which aren't and came across a few comments about ATMs and the mall that got my radar going.
From what I've seen it's hard to come across an ATM in the area. Would it be wise to bring lots of money with you an exchange it at the airport once arrived in the country or is that not really the case?
How far away from Fields Ave and all the action is the SM Mall and is it really worth going to?
Does AC have a curfew for their bars like Bangkok now has or are the bars and clubs more or less open 24/7?
That's it for now, thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
There are ATM's, just not right in the Fields bar area. There are ATM's say 6 blocks away. Also, the mall has ATM's also. The mall is say 3/10ths of a mile from Fields and it is clearly visable from Checkpoint (like a jeepnet station). I don't think anyone here cares whether a Mall is "worth going to" and I am not doing mall reviews this week.
Dollhouse is the only bar, as far as I know, that stays open 24/7.
Just go, man. You are getting a little too analytical. Everything is relatively close. 110 bars and 1000+ girls, the rest is of little importance.
[QUOTE=Swinger F]If we fly air asia from KL we land in Clark base, please may I know how far is LA from the air port, or it is nearer to head for Manila.
Thank you[/QUOTE]Wow. The airport is 15 minutes away! Surprsed you didn't know that. Arrange for your hotel to pick you up because there is very little random cab service. Bizarre, yes, but you can wait a long time to get a cab if you don't plan ahead.
What is LA? Are you referring to LA cafe?
[url]http://www.ermita.com/LA%20cafe/index.htm[/url]
X Man
[QUOTE=Swinger F]If we fly air asia from KL we land in Clark base, please may I know how far is LA from the air port, or it is nearer to head for Manila.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Chinabank and Equitable PCI have ATMS on the wall OUTSIDE the SM City Clark entrance; just take the long snaking walkway and then go downstairs when it reaches the mall. These are the most useful ATMs because they carry Plus and Visa (and Banco de Oro inside the mall has Cirrus). I usually lean on ATMs as my first-choice money-extraction method in the PI because banks are so paranoid and bureaucratic with traveler's checks. Unlike in Thailand, you won't see money-exchange booths everywhere that take traveler's checks. You might see a few moneychangers but they'll want cash.
Reasonable transport leaving out of Clark airport is indeed still a problem. You might be able to get a special-ride jeepney for P100-180 if one arrived to drop someone. As in Manila at NAIA, taxis aren't reasonable (though in fairness the gouge price is similar to what the price would be in the U.S.). I was light enough on my bags to just walk all the way out of the airport to the road where the regular jeepneys pass, but it was a longer distance than I had expected.
Would also mention that Cebu Pacific flies Clark-Cebu three times a week now. There's no ticket office of theirs in town in Angeles and their website was rejecting U.S.-issued credit cards, but I got a RT ticket for US$75 after the taxes and junk fees at Action Travel on Fields Ave. Very pleasant flight: New airbus A319s and only about half full, with assigned seats.
Swagman bus still connects Ermita Swagman and Angeles hotels at P500.
Am wrapping up nearly 3 weeks in the Philippines, having taken in Manila, Angeles and Cebu (I might write about Manila and Cebu in those sections for organization's sake). Have been a twice-yearly visitor to the PI in most years since 1994.
Newbies in Angeles don't know how nice they have it with the SM City Clark and other conveniences so close. Back in 1996 you'd have to take a jeepney all the way to downtown Angeles for Internet access or for an internationally-linked ATM (often offline), and most food was on MacArthur Highway. Nowadays you don't have to go past the end of Fields Ave.!
Also, in constant-dollar terms the cost of customer drinks and barfines hasn't risen much at all since the days of the P25/$1 peso, though the last 2 years have made what used to be bargains much less so.
Overall I find myself wanting to cut my time allocated to Angeles on future trips vs. time for other places in the PI. Reason: The bar-hopping routine in Angeles seems like too much work and too time-consuming compared to options like LA Cafe in Manila (may it survive...) or Kamagayan in Cebu. Call me spoiled, but I'll try to lay out the case:
At first glance in Angeles it appears the female:male ratio in Angeles bars is quite favorable to males. Looks can be deceiving, though. Let's assume, for this exercise, that you're goal-oriented and there because you want to find someone nice to take back to the hotel and boink (if you mainly want cheap drinks you can do better than the girl bars!).
The main problem you'll run into is way too many "non-qualifiers," i.e. girls that for reasons of hers or yours or both, aren't possible barfines. Reasons could include:
1) Girl not much to look at, and she's working mainly for salary anyway. Many bars have quite a few of these; they're way past their prime but can hang on and work for salary because the talent pool is currently stretched thin (too many bars for the number of girls, best girls head to places like Makati for more money there).
2) Girl doesn't want to go with you because she's going out with friends later (could happen especially on Fridays/Saturdays), you're not her type, or she's got enough revenue from lady drinks or overseas boyfriends sending money that she'll not barfine very often and then only with attitude. Happens with the prettiest of the lot (the old saying, "Don't barfine the best-looking girl in the bar.")
3) Maybe it really IS the wrong time of the month.
Or, most infuriatingly...
4) Cherry girls. Am sure this has been discussed a lot before, but I'd come down solidly in the camp that says they just get in the way and there's no reason to have them. As a practical matter, I think they still exist because the talent pool is stretched thin over the number of bars.
Add up these four groups and you've got a high percentage of the bar not really in play as far as your needs go. Of course, bars still want the lady-drink revenue from these groups, so their incentives aren't aligned with yours on this one. You can eliminate girls in group #1 visually yourself and, if you're diligent (not that you should have to be in this case) ask about #4 before calling a girl over to make sure you don't sit down with a cherry girl when you don't want one. But usually you'll have to interview over a drink to find the girl is eliminated because of group #2 or #3 (hard to get at those upfront).
If it doesn't work out, you're back to square one as far as fulfilling your goal. Some nights you can go through multiple duds this way to try to get a winner.
OK, let's say you do get a really good one. Congrats. If you're like most guys you'll want to hold onto her for multiple days rather than having to repeat the whole process to get a new one that may very well not be as good. Makes sense, but it's also a factor taking more of the best girls out of circulation on any given bar-hopping night.
To put all this to the test just go to a bar, even a well-stocked one, around 1:30 a.m. with intent to barfine. You'll get noticeably far fewer interested glances than earlier in the night and may well see all the "qualifiers" gone. It'll definitely be a different vibe. Also, the later you go, the more likely the girl you have your eye on will turn out to be a group #2 or #3 non-qualifier.
Buying a drink for the mamasan or having a relationship there can be helpful, as she can point out the new arrivals and maybe give you reason to pick a borderline one.
But if you're semi-selective it IS very possible to go back to the hotel in Angeles empty-handed after a string of near-misses (don't think you're the only one it has ever happened to!) And watch those drinks; if you get too deep into the night on San Miguels or San Miguel lights trying to make something happen with a girl at the bar, something might not happen in bed. I think a good portion of the street-vendor Viagra sales go to people who don't need it medically but are maybe hoping it'll put the lead in the pencil that the alcohol took out.
So I submit that it's a lot more time, money and work to monger in Angeles than it first appears, and if you hit a 10 on your first or second time, consider yourself very fortunate. Just don't try to tell me that most guys are in the bars chiefly for the drinks, the non-nude scenery or the chance to snuggle up with a cherry girl but not go any further. Nonsense.
Eventually many people will ask themselves, "Why am I doing this?" After all, most girls you'll meet in LA Cafe or a place like Kamagayan in Cebu will want to go with you or at least give quick enough feedback if not. Add the drinks and lady drinks as overhead and even the Angeles barfines don't look as cheap. There's the STD screening in Angeles but we've heard how it's a system with holes. Would also be nice if Angeles had more "showing" (think Pattaya) so that bars could be useful as "ogling dens," but politically it's unlikely to happen.
So, at the risk or being labeled a wet blanket, I'll likely be cutting time allocated to Angeles to nights before/after flights into or out of Clark.
Good report Ploughman! Just one question: you mention Kamagayan in Cebu. I am quite often in Cebu, but I don't know this place. Can you tell us a bit more about it. Most reports in Cebu session even says, that mongering in Cebu is not good ...
Thanks
Sumart
[QUOTE=Ploughman]Am wrapping up nearly 3 weeks in the Philippines, having taken in Manila, Angeles and Cebu (I might write about Manila and Cebu in those sections for organization's sake). Have been a twice-yearly visitor to the PI in most years since 1994.
Newbies in Angeles don't know how nice they have it with the SM City Clark and other conveniences so close. Back in 1996 you'd have to take a jeepney all the way to downtown Angeles for Internet access or for an internationally-linked ATM (often offline), and most food was on MacArthur Highway. Nowadays you don't have to go past the end of Fields Ave.!
Also, in constant-dollar terms the cost of customer drinks and barfines hasn't risen much at all since the days of the P25/$1 peso, though the last 2 years have made what used to be bargains much less so.
Overall I find myself wanting to cut my time allocated to Angeles on future trips vs. time for other places in the PI. Reason: The bar-hopping routine in Angeles seems like too much work and too time-consuming compared to options like LA Cafe in Manila (may it survive...) or Kamagayan in Cebu. Call me spoiled, but I'll try to lay out the case:
At first glance in Angeles it appears the female:male ratio in Angeles bars is quite favorable to males. Looks can be deceiving, though. Let's assume, for this exercise, that you're goal-oriented and there because you want to find someone nice to take back to the hotel and boink (if you mainly want cheap drinks you can do better than the girl bars!).
The main problem you'll run into is way too many "non-qualifiers," i.e. girls that for reasons of hers or yours or both, aren't possible barfines. Reasons could include:
1) Girl not much to look at, and she's working mainly for salary anyway. Many bars have quite a few of these; they're way past their prime but can hang on and work for salary because the talent pool is currently stretched thin (too many bars for the number of girls, best girls head to places like Makati for more money there).
2) Girl doesn't want to go with you because she's going out with friends later (could happen especially on Fridays/Saturdays), you're not her type, or she's got enough revenue from lady drinks or overseas boyfriends sending money that she'll not barfine very often and then only with attitude. Happens with the prettiest of the lot (the old saying, "Don't barfine the best-looking girl in the bar.")
3) Maybe it really IS the wrong time of the month.
Or, most infuriatingly...
4) Cherry girls. Am sure this has been discussed a lot before, but I'd come down solidly in the camp that says they just get in the way and there's no reason to have them. As a practical matter, I think they still exist because the talent pool is stretched thin over the number of bars.
Add up these four groups and you've got a high percentage of the bar not really in play as far as your needs go. Of course, bars still want the lady-drink revenue from these groups, so their incentives aren't aligned with yours on this one. You can eliminate girls in group #1 visually yourself and, if you're diligent (not that you should have to be in this case) ask about #4 before calling a girl over to make sure you don't sit down with a cherry girl when you don't want one. But usually you'll have to interview over a drink to find the girl is eliminated because of group #2 or #3 (hard to get at those upfront).
If it doesn't work out, you're back to square one as far as fulfilling your goal. Some nights you can go through multiple duds this way to try to get a winner.
OK, let's say you do get a really good one. Congrats. If you're like most guys you'll want to hold onto her for multiple days rather than having to repeat the whole process to get a new one that may very well not be as good. Makes sense, but it's also a factor taking more of the best girls out of circulation on any given bar-hopping night.
To put all this to the test just go to a bar, even a well-stocked one, around 1:30 a.m. with intent to barfine. You'll get noticeably far fewer interested glances than earlier in the night and may well see all the "qualifiers" gone. It'll definitely be a different vibe. Also, the later you go, the more likely the girl you have your eye on will turn out to be a group #2 or #3 non-qualifier.
Buying a drink for the mamasan or having a relationship there can be helpful, as she can point out the new arrivals and maybe give you reason to pick a borderline one.
But if you're semi-selective it IS very possible to go back to the hotel in Angeles empty-handed after a string of near-misses (don't think you're the only one it has ever happened to!) And watch those drinks; if you get too deep into the night on San Miguels or San Miguel lights trying to make something happen with a girl at the bar, something might not happen in bed. I think a good portion of the street-vendor Viagra sales go to people who don't need it medically but are maybe hoping it'll put the lead in the pencil that the alcohol took out.
So I submit that it's a lot more time, money and work to monger in Angeles than it first appears, and if you hit a 10 on your first or second time, consider yourself very fortunate. Just don't try to tell me that most guys are in the bars chiefly for the drinks, the non-nude scenery or the chance to snuggle up with a cherry girl but not go any further. Nonsense.
Eventually many people will ask themselves, "Why am I doing this?" After all, most girls you'll meet in LA Cafe or a place like Kamagayan in Cebu will want to go with you or at least give quick enough feedback if not. Add the drinks and lady drinks as overhead and even the Angeles barfines don't look as cheap. There's the STD screening in Angeles but we've heard how it's a system with holes. Would also be nice if Angeles had more "showing" (think Pattaya) so that bars could be useful as "ogling dens," but politically it's unlikely to happen.
So, at the risk or being labeled a wet blanket, I'll likely be cutting time allocated to Angeles to nights before/after flights into or out of Clark.[/QUOTE]
As a frequent visitor to Cebu I would also be interested in learning about "Kamagayan."
[QUOTE=Sumart]Good report Ploughman! Just one question: you mention Kamagayan in Cebu. I am quite often in Cebu, but I don't know this place. Can you tell us a bit more about it. Most reports in Cebu session even says, that mongering in Cebu is not good ...
Thanks
Sumart[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PeakView]Wow. The airport is 15 minutes away! Surprsed you didn't know that. Arrange for your hotel to pick you up because there is very little random cab service. Bizarre, yes, but you can wait a long time to get a cab if you don't plan ahead.[/QUOTE]I answered the question too fast! I assumed AC instead of LA.
Hi guys
One girl told me that she is pregy from me.
There is any risk if I will come and visit her? by the law can she stop me in PI?
ESSI
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi guys
One girl told me that she is pregy from me.
There is any risk if I will come and visit her? by the law can she stop me in PI?
ESSI[/QUOTE]
If there's a be a law, half of the Pinoys would be in shit.
But mate, whats your motive to see her?
You like her and perhaps wanna be responsible for the baby. Then dun be afraid, just go!
You just wanna shag her big belly again and then disappear? Hmmm...thats not gentlemenstyle, more typical Pinoy style of run away. But be aware that perhaps her uncle is waiting to cut off your dick....
Any other motive?
If no motive, just stay away---and move on.
Hi guys, got finally my confirmation and I'll be in Orchid Inn from 27th July for 2 weeks.
First visit to AC so anybody woulkd like to join me for same fun will be welcome.
As I wrote in the past report I will run in the morning for keep some fitness.
Anybody interested just PM.
Good luck and see you soon in AC.
[QUOTE=White Shark]Hi guys, got finally my confirmation and I'll be in Orchid Inn from 27th July for 2 weeks.
First visit to AC so anybody woulkd like to join me for same fun will be welcome.
As I wrote in the past report I will run in the morning for keep some fitness.
Anybody interested just PM.
Good luck and see you soon in AC.[/QUOTE]You'll be better off at pacific Breeze directly behind Wild Orchid. opened December 06 and much cheaper.
I would like to make this report on Angeles city after returning from a seven day stay there. This was my first trip to the phillipines and being a newbie I was grateful for all the information this forum provided. I am 27 and from england I was unsure wether to come here or Thailand being of mixed race some of my friends told me thais can be quite racist towards non whites but I'm glad I had no problems here.
I stayed at the pacific breeze hotel which had a good staff, nice resturant and pool. For $40 you got a big room with a massive walk in shower, a/see fridge etc. All the girls I brought back said it was nice so I think I made the right choice. I arrived on a Sunday and thought I would hit the bars about 9pm, I decided I would only bf one girl from each bar during my stay, walking down fields ave I went first to the bunny ranch it was pretty dead inside. Then I went to insomnia which was also quite empty but they had a few better looking girls.
As the was only 3-4 other people there I got quite alot of attention from the girls, I wasn't pressurized to buy them drinks and the atmosphere was ok. I saw this girl I liked and called her over she wasn't stunning but she was ok, I asked her the usual questions and brought her a ladies drink for 150. By this time it was 11pm and I barfined her for 1200. I wanted to go in the skytrax disco but she warned me it was full of gang members and stabbing a westerner was one of there initiation requirements.
She was very experienced, despite what I read previously I bf 12 girls here and all of them asked if I had condoms before they left the bar which was very reassuring. I think the best club was camelot which had some stunning girls but you the ld was still 150 and the bf 1200. I found a nice girl in there which I stayed with for two days. Its could to have company during the day as there is not alot else to do except hang out at SM mall or go on the internet.
I only had one bad experience when a girl lied to me about being on mens and put blood all over my bed. I wasn't sure what to do but I went back to bunny ranch where she was from and complained to the mamasan who returned my money and was very apologetic which surprised me. If I go back again I will only go for ones who can understand english quite well as with some of them it was hard to communicate what I wanted in the bedroom, but all in all for my first time it was a good experience. Sorry if this post is too long.
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[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]You'll be better off at pacific Breeze directly behind Wild Orchid. opened December 06 and much cheaper.[/QUOTE]
hi,
agree to that. wild orchid, a hotel for 90US plus ++, facin blowjob bars is a joke :D,same like ABC hotel (asian bitches hotel) asian beach club.
Payin 20 us for gurls and bring them into 100 US resort is a joke. You can stay there with ur family (but why bring them to ac lol) or with your gf you know and been together for alonger time.
Im not a cheap charlie but I wont pay that much, well maybe cause I stay longer then 2 or 3 nights in AC.
Nevertheless, Pacific breeze is brand new, they also manage Central park
I work in hotel business before. I stayed in all kinds of hotels and personally I stay in places who offer me the most for my bucks.
Ok, thats my opinion, evrybody is free to stay where he likes, just sharing my thoughts to this.
Happy hunting
Blink
Hi all,
My first visit to AC will be next month and really looking forward to visit. Does anyone know if the Sons of Bacchus parties I've read about are active again? I read that they were stopped by LE?
Do the hotels have pool parties on a regular basis or are they one-off events?
Hey White Shark. I am jealous. It is nine weeks to 'wheels up' for me.
(Still, I should not complain since I just got back from Thailand).
You will enjoy yourself. Have a 'San Miguel' for me, and try out a breakfast at Mo's. Watching the world go by.
As far as the hotel is concerned, relax. While you are there, you can check out the other accommodation options close by. If you find something cheaper and just as nice, you can chalk it up to experience and zero in next time. My observation of your hotel though is that the door people give the girls a bit of a hassle if they are unaccompanied, so in the morning make sure you do the gentlemanly thing and escort your lady out. I found that treating these girls with consideration (but NOT weakness) pays big dividends.
As alternatives, check out the Swiss Chalet and Hotel Royal Amsterdam. The latter is very nice but with noisy rooms at the back at night. (An advantage if you prefer to sleep during the day and not fall asleep 'on the job' at night).
You ought to be able to get a really nice room for $60 and not bad for $45-50 USD.
In any case, you can't really go wrong where you are.
Thanks Rubberyman for your report.
I'll enjoy my holiday and on my return post a report with pix and details.
Sorry about the San Miguel but I didn't drink alcool.....
Actually, he did say CLARK. Of course he hasn't clarifed, so who know what was going through his mind. If the question is just TOOOO stupid, it's best to ignore it.
I guess the correct answer is LA is only about 2 hours away from the Clark airport.
[QUOTE=PeakView]I answered the question too fast! I assumed AC instead of LA.[/QUOTE]
Ploughman is spot on. This is especially obvious after a few days in AC and then visiting EDSA or Burgos. OMG, what a difference!
Nevertheless, having different options keeps things interesting. You can find some great gals in AC. There are also some pretty good restaurants in AC. Having the restaurants, bars, thousands of ladies, SM mall, and your hotel all within 15 minute walk is quite convenient.
THe cherry girls often DO have a purpose. They sometimes give BJs. Often they are also the most attractive women in the bar. I just wish they would wear a big cherry sign somewhere so that we would know ahead of time.
Ploughman, I hope you can give us a report about Kamagayan / Jonquerra. (Jonquerra is the name of a street in the Kamagayan area of Cebu). I haven't pulled a girl from there since 1990. I'd like to go, but the place gives me the creeps after dark, and I don't want to be picking girls who line up infront of a taxis headlights. (I've seen it done)
X Man
[QUOTE=Ploughman]
Overall I find myself wanting to cut my time allocated to Angeles on future trips vs. time for other places in the PI. Reason: The bar-hopping routine in Angeles seems like too much work and too time-consuming compared to options like LA Cafe in Manila (may it survive...) or Kamagayan in Cebu. Call me spoiled, but I'll try to lay out the case:
The main problem you'll run into is way too many "non-qualifiers," i.e. girls that for reasons of hers or yours or both, aren't possible barfines. Reasons could include:
SNIP
Or, most infuriatingly...
4) Cherry girls. Am sure this has been discussed a lot before, but I'd come down solidly in the camp that says they just get in the way and there's no reason to have them. As a practical matter, I think they still exist because the talent pool is stretched thin over the number of bars.
.[/QUOTE]
I was looking to possibly stay at the Orchid. Would I be chosing poorly? Would the Pacific Breeze or the Central Park hotel be the wiser choice?
James be,
You need to be a bit more specific about your requirements. Orchid is ok, but relatively expensive. However, that is your call, it seems like a nice hotel (my sources are some of the girls I barfined who liked the rooms and decor, but not the attitudes of the guys at the door).
Suggest you google the hotels in AC and pick something central that you like. Start off with something in Fields Ave area (which is where the W. O. Is off a side street) and once you are there, you can check out other options for later trips.
If you are going in off season, book only for a few days in the WO and then shift to wherever else you like (or stay if you are happy there). Things are close together, so if you shift it is no big deal. If you are a sociable sort, there are always fellow mongers there who will give you advice in places like Mo's or Margarita Station.
[QUOTE=James Bowen]I was looking to possibly stay at the Orchid. Would I be chosing poorly? Would the Pacific Breeze or the Central Park hotel be the wiser choice?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
try to get a room in central park first, they allways fully booked. If you there, walk to orchid, its just beside central park. Pacific breeze is a 5 minutes walk away if you walk like a pinoy (for me its one minute :D)
Hope that helps!!
Blink
The Orchid is a good choice with a swim up bar and $33 a night and right in the middle of things, but you have to book months ahead to get a room. Sometimes I stay at Hana, a short 50p trike ride out near Phoenix, Club Rio, Thi Hi etc. but get a quieter inside room facing the pool. About $26 a night.
QH
hello fellow mongers from angeles city!
it is hot as he@@ outside today so i am killing a few hours before venturing out again and decided to bore you with my observations of angeles city (ac) versus pattaya.
i am from the usa, 54 and retired early. i've lived in thailand since january 2003 and my first trip to the philippines was in august 2006; i spent two months in ac and another month visiting mindanao, cebu, bohol and manila.
as of today one usd = 45.5 pesos and 33.7 thai baht. i use 0.7 as a factor to compare philippine pesos to thai baht. (100 pesos = 70 baht) it is not exact but works as rough guide.
in thailand i now live in pattaya, but i spent the previous four years in bangkok. the following ramblings are subjective and just my personal opinions.
general:
infastructure is far better in thailand: pattaya roads are congested but mostly paved and in decent condition. baht buses are every where and getting around is relatively easy. accomodation in pattaya is plentiful and available to meet most budgets. atms are everywhere and thai bank offices are available to change currency.
ac is dirtier (i know, pattaya isn't spottless!), many side streets are unpaved and in poor condition. there is a new, and modern mall (sm clark) within walking distance from the fields-perimiter road area. both cities are hot, but i think i sweat even more in ac. depending on your airline (air asia, cebu pacific, korean airlines, tiger) you can fly directly into the old clark airbase, about 10-15 minutes ride from ac.
the gross domestic product of thailand is twice that of the philippines. but there are 20 million more people in the pi. the girls of ac are definately poorer than their vice sisters in pattaya.
night life:
pattaya is much larger and has more bars and he girls. pattaya is also adding more go-go bars, but the main stay is the open air "ba beer." in the open air bars beer sells for 50+ baht, in the go-gos roughly double that, but many go-gos have happy hour specials for thb 50, sometimes less. ladies drinks (ld) are usually around thb 100. of course the go-gos charge more but they also can have some pretty sexy shows. bar fines vary but a rule of thumb is baht 300 for small beer bars to 600+ for go-gos. the bf just gets the girl out of the bar, in small open air bars expect to pay 500+ for short time (st) and 1000 for long time. go-go girls expect more, about 1000+ st and 1,500+ long time. i've heard some of the younger thai stunners are asking-and getting- over 3,000 lt. out of billy baht's budget but the two week millionaires are seemingly happy to pay. as they say, up to you!
ac is comprised almost entirely of small to large airconditioned go-go bars. the larger bars on fields avenue charge 85 pesos for a beer, 150 pesos for a ladies drink. the perimeter road bars charge 50 pesos for a beer and 100 for a ld. bar fines are 1,200+ on fields, mostly 1,000 (some are charging 1,100) on the perimiter. the bar fine is all inclusive, the girl gets half the bar fine and about 45% commission on lds. it is expected that the girl will stay all night, but just like thailand, things are changing. it is better to clarify that she will stay all night if you really want lt. runners will "become ill" have to check on their "auntie" (their trike driver boyfriend) or get a text saying that they are needed for some other emergency. a few bars have a st room available but still may charge the regular p 1,000 bf.
in pattaya i've hada great time with many freelancers. some are trouble but many have simply realized their true worth and don't want to put up with the hassels of bar rules and some of the a@@ hole customers that abuse them. ac is different entirely and i would advise you to be very cautious with freelancers. definately beware of young/**** girls-the cops will be entirely ungorgiving. even the older ladies may claim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or some other abuse. you've been warned. (manila freelancers can be ok but keep your radar on at all times.)
thai girls are definately beautiful, but beauty is a subjective thing. in general the thais are a bit taller and have tan skin. tan skinned filipinas can be found but i was suprised at the number of relatively fair skinned ac girls. the maidens of ac have far fewer tatoos and rarely die/tint their lovely hair a lighter shade. filipinas are way ahead in english language skills and they even get western humor. they also have a better understanding of the outside world because half the country is working overseas. they all have relatives living abroad, especially the usa. thais are much more insular and really have little interest or awareness of the outside world. there are of course exceptions but in general, a filipina wants to leave the philippines; a thai girl wants to remain in thailand.
i personally find the filipinas of ac to be a bit more loving and attentive, but don't fool yourself-it's still all about the money.
misc:
thailand is a bit more accomodative giving most westerners 30 days free visa waiver on arrival; the philippines gives 21 days. if you want to stay more than 30 days in thailand, it is advisable to bet a 60 day tourist or 90+ day type o in your home country before arrival. the philippines treats you better if you wish to stay longer, you just go down to immigration and extend for another 59 days (first ex. is 38 days; 38 + 21 = 59.) after six extensions, you must leave the country, then you return and re start the clock. easy peasy :)
again it is subjective, but the filipinos are a bit more polite. they will usually appologize if they bump into you on the street, request your presence in the bar with "come inside sir!" and thank you as you leave the bar. the philippines is still an asian country however and they will happily run over you if you dare to step infront of on comming traffic. depending where you are, it is definately more dangerous in the pi, although most of the crimes are petty, like pick pockets or filipino guys that invite you to a "friendly" card game.
the philippines is just like thailand, in that loosing your cool will only make matters worse. the street vendors in both places are a pest, but remember that there are no social safety nets here, so either ignore them or decline politely. there is no precentage in taking on the locals.
the expat crowd in pattaya have a few more rough edges- shaved headed, heavily tatooed, shirtless guys of all ages and nationalities that seem to enjoy confrontation as much as the girls. the ac crowd is a bit older and more peace loving, but a few nights ago i did notice a guy comming out of the doll house with his shirt almost ripped off and blood running from a gash on the side of his head. in ac most of the guys are from australia, uk, usa and germany, but the koreans are arriving in ever greater numbers.
in my 20+ trips to pattaya i have had exactly one bar owner buy me a drink. in my 2 ac trips i have received at least 6 beers from friendly bar owner/managers (all australians by the way.)
as a parting word to the wise "if it flies, floats or fucks it's cheaper to rent." i would also not but a house or condo in either place, but that's just me. i prefer maximum mobility and rent is cheap :)
all the best,
billy baht
Billy Baht,
Good post.
I appreciate your comments.
Thank you
[quote=billy baht]ac is different entirely and i would advise you to be very cautious with freelancers. definately beware of young/**** girls-the cops will be entirely ungorgiving. even the older ladies may claim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or some other abuse. you've been warned. (manila freelancers can be ok but keep your radar on at all times.) [/quote]
this cannot be emphasized enough. steer cleer of freelancers in ac and stick with the registered bgs. in addition to what bb stated above i have reason to believe that there are hiv positives, esp. among the older fls.
there is no reason whatsoever to be polite to the beggars. begging is illegal in pi - they are simple criminals out to prey on softhearted westerners. the "streetkids" are often put there by ruthless parent(s). please don't encourage this by giving them money.
Excellent post, well written, informative, I've been looking for something like that for a while - straight to the reports of distinction!
[QUOTE=Billy Baht]
Angeles City vs Pattaya
Billy Baht[/QUOTE]
For all you Newbies out there and who are thinking a trip to PI or Pattaya Billy Baht really gave you good information! 2 weeks to go and I will be in Adult Disneyland of Angeles once again.
Great post Billy! It makes me want to give Thailand a try as I've never been there..
Cheers!
I pretty much agree with everything BB said. It's pretty amazing that I didn't find anything I didn't agree with him on the comparisons and stuff in that people's views usually vary quite a bit and he brought up a lot of different points. It almost felt like I wrote it. Very nicely done.
Plan on going to Stampede tomorrow (Sat. 28th 6-8pm).
500 pesos food, drinks and dance contest with girls from different bars competing.
You can buy tickets at Stampede. I'd arrive early as it is first come first serve seating.
Usually a good time at Stampede when I have gone. Girls get very competitive.
Thanks Billy. Your post is highly informative. I think that much of what you've written is the common sense that n00bs tend to forget. Especially the part about renting. Good luck to you. I hope to meet you in person some time.
They still run the service but its not always the air conditioned bus. A few months ago I went into the Swaggy and bought a ticket for the 3 PM bus up to Ermita. At 3, an old crappy 10 seater van pulls up and the driver tells us to climb aboard. I asked the driver where is the nice bus with the A/C, big seats and TV monitors that show movies. He says the owners are trying to save gas money and don't use it unless they have to. Only if there are more than 12 passengers.
Yes....only if there are more than 12 folks on a 10 seater van!!!! We only had 11 passengers that day so I spent the next two hours sitting between two huge overweight sweaty guys on a van with a broken air conditioner. Did I mention that it is still 500 piso?
The Swaggy management are a bunch of wankers for pulling this crap IMHO. A couple of months later I had the same situation only this time I didn't purchase a ticket beforehand as I wanted to see if the same van showed up....it did. When I saw it I took a P50 trike over to the Dau bus terminal and paid P130 for a ticket to Manila on an air conditioned bus.
To make a long story short...check and see what shows up in front of the Swagman before you buy your "bus" ticket.
[QUOTE=Ploughman]Swagman bus still connects Ermita Swagman and Angeles hotels at P500.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]
The Swaggy management are a bunch of wankers for pulling this crap IMHO. A couple of months later I had the same situation only this time I didn't purchase a ticket beforehand as I wanted to see if the same van showed up....it did. When I saw it I took a P50 trike over to the Dau bus terminal and paid P130 for a ticket to Manila on an air conditioned bus.
To make a long story short...check and see what shows up in front of the Swagman before you buy your "bus" ticket.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip SJ. Unfortunately I just bought a Swaggman "Fly the Bus" ticket before I read your post. If they load me onto the mini van, it'll be my last Swaggy trip, LOL!
I came to Angeles on the Rabit bus from their Santa Cruz terminal; SC terminal is only a five minute walk to the Light Rail train, a viable option if you are traveling light or making a day trip to manila.
BB
[quote=billy baht]hello fellow mongers from angeles city!
in thailand i now live in pattaya, but i spent the previous four years in bangkok. the following ramblings are subjective and just my personal opinions.
billy baht[/quote]
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thanks bb. excellent comparison. especially useful for those who have tried one but not the other yet. hardly anything more needs to be said, except maybe a few more details if you accept:
1./ accomodation:
in pattaya you will always get a room without reservation (maybe after some walking around) even at christmas and new year. in ac it is better to book ahead during peak periods, like dec-jan. fortunately many hotels have websites and will hold a room on an email or a phonecall, without a deposit. recently a number of new hotels opened in ac, but to get a "comfortable" room is much more difficult than in pattaya. also, for the same price you get much better value in pattaya, esp. if you don't mind staying a bit off the main roads.
2./ food:
definitely more varied and cheap in pattaya. however, if you just step outside of the tourist ghetto of balibago, in either direction of angeles or dau there are plenty of shops selling varied and delicious food (even pizza) at local prices of 50-60 pesos for a set meal. that's just 40 baht, same as thailand. you can walk to dau and take a jeepney to angeles for 7 pesos (or walk? - get fit!). filipino fare is not as spicy but quite delicious. some even prefer it after all the thai fire-fare (i do).
3./ the local people:
this is a varied lot. while most people in either countries tend to be honest, i believe that a lot more tourists get badly "burnt" in the pi as in thailand. balibago is pretty safe in the main area and during the day especially. this may not apply at night (as you said). the thais tend to have a sense of pride based on their "toughness" that keeps them doing bad things to foreigners, unless they are badly provoked. i don't notice this at the philippinos.
they are more casual and open to foreigners but this can be deceiving and you just have to be alert so much more (see: freelancers as you mentioned before). their national pride will certainly won't bar them from ripping you off at any opportunity. i don't like thais because they are so closed to the outside world, but it also has some advantages as i said. it would be "un-thai" for them to harm you - unless they can really justify it (like if you violate some taboos).
thailand looks dangerous yet it is safer, the pi looks safe and friendly yet it is far more dangerous (does that make sense?). i have been ripped off much more often in the pi (in much fewer visits) than in thailand, yet thailand is so much more of a scary place if you realize just how tough the locals are and how much they look down on you (even when you speak thai). plus here goes the language issue:
4./ language:
rotten hard to learn, but once you speak reasonably fluently you get quite a bit of credit for it from locals in thailand (like moto taxis, restaurants, etc). since most everyone speaks english in pi, few foreigners even try to learn pilipino, so you will always stay an outsider.
they speak english but not so well, really just on basic level, definitely not like most of us. to them it is still a "foreign language". it might be well worth the effort to study some pilipino, to further enhance our experience.
to further confuse you, please note that if you speak thai well in front of bargirls in pattaya it is usually a very bad point (because they cannot cheat you so easily). they seem prefer uninitiated, "innocent" men. i have no experience of speaking tagalog on any reasonable level (apart from "mabuhay and maganda-ng")so please let us know what you think.
5./ the gogo bars:
in ac the music is much softer, making a conversation possible. also, there is much less explicit sex displayed in ac than in pattaya. no naked dancing, unless in a dark corner especially for you if you pay for it. so, entertainment-wise pattaya leads because you can sit all night just ogle the sex-shows. in comparison ac bars are boring if you don't like much conversation (very boring indeed as there is not much else to do or watch). there are some shows now but they are not near as great as in pattaya.
6./ the girls:
in ac they have "real girls names", like "emily, janice, kellie" etc like we are used to, and not like "pon, fon, kung, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and poo, etc" as in thailand which sound strange and have no much meaning to us. also, because they speak english better, kiss much more readily and are usually more affectionate and western minded, your experience will be so much more enhanced if you are into gfe or the like. no wonder that so many guys marry them (for better or worse). but for st it is really nice. also, you will have to change your approach somewhat when you come to the pi.
it is more small talk and kindness (even if for the st) and less of a cold commercial transaction as in thailand (i know it is commercial, but it doesn't feel that way). if you come "hard and tough", you will unlikely get the best girls in ac, even if you have the money. i know especially because i am such an asshole that likes just to "point-and-fuck" like in a bangkok massage parlour. usually it works out quite well with thai hos (they even like it), but in the pi unfortunately i had to tone down that approach (one reason why i visit the pi less often).
7./ regular tourists:
this is the main point where ac really excells, as there are no "regular tourists". apart from a few lost backpackers en-route to baguio, basically everybody is here for one thing: the puss-puss. this gives a wonderful sense of comradiere among the guys, friendsips are formed more easily, everyone is more relaxed. and yes, hardly any fights. this is our "own little refuge" from the outside world. the pattaya traffic is really crazy nowadays and the huge tour-buses dominate the roads. they are a danger to everyone, pedestrians to motorcyclers alike. in comparison, ac is relaxed joy. just sitting at one of the open-air bars and watching the world go by at snail's pace in ac is like holidaying on a desert-island, after a stretch of a few weeks in pattaya.
[QUOTE=Billy Baht] It is expected that the girl will stay all night, but just like Thailand, things are changing. It is better to clarify that she will stay all night if you really want LT. Runners will "become ill" have to check on their "Auntie" (their trike driver boyfriend) or get a text saying that they are needed for some other emergency. [/QUOTE]
BB:
So true! And, folks, beware: even a clarification beforehand does not necessarily mean anything! Last week my barfine from Dollhouse run away at 2:30 am although our crystal clear (and three times repeated!) agreement was 7:30 am!
Of course I immediately went back to Dollhouse and struggled with the mamasan because of that non-compliance! However, I fear that this kind of Filipino cheat happens nowadays more or less regularly!?
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=That Asshole]-----------------------------------------------------
Thanks BB. Excellent comparison. Especially useful for those who have tried one but not the other yet. Hardly anything more needs to be said, except maybe a few more details if you accept:[/QUOTE]We are in agreement :)
BB
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]BB:
So true! And, folks, beware: even a clarification beforehand does not necessarily mean anything! Last week my barfine from Dollhouse run away at 2:30 am although our crystal clear (and three times repeated!) agreement was 7:30 am!
Of course I immediately went back to Dollhouse and struggled with the mamasan because of that non-compliance! However, I fear that this kind of Filipino cheat happens nowadays more or less regularly!?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I think the DH is a ripf off place, even my gf works there also. Or lets say my gf of the time last time and maybe my gf this time ( I fly this week to PI)
Before she works as doorgurl, barfine was 1300p, now she works as solodancer, bf is 3000p. I told her I wont pay that. I dont care to give her some extra, because IM enjoying with her, but I dont pay the bar. At least thats what my plan is. if she dont chnage back to doorgurl as I told her, she can wait 4somebody else, not me Belive me, there is nothing more for me or anybody else in it or extra to pay this amount.
DH , agassya and las vegas care for korean/asian customers , cause they pay more, or they more quick finish, have smaller dicks or what ever the reason is, gurls prefer also to go with them. En contraire they say they dont like it very much. nevertheless, I will go there and check things out, sometimes ur lucky and sometimes things are changin.
This is what really sucks in AC, just expereince that again with my so called gf. If you like the gurl, its alllmost impossible to make deal to pay her 600p a day, skip barfine and see her evry day or after work. The bars are pretty much dictating the scenary over there and that sucks. So dont get to close with the gurls, cause you know if you dont take her and pay bar, she will go with somebody else.
Well, good that Im a butterfly and have plastic heart. I divide my gf in cathegories and have plenty of them, some serious, some less :D
But for newbies it can be hard.
happy hunting
more on that once Im there
Blink
be careful what you hope for!
the swaggy bus i rode had rotten ac. people opened the windows. the "attendant" never once asked anyone if they wanted drinks or anything. she sat her ass down and checked her text messages. during the rest stop i noticed the bus tires had lost huge chunks of rubber. i guess that accounts for the relatively low speed -- many buses passed us on the way. but the high point was the big intersection in mla near the govt buildings / luneta park. the bus stalled out in the middle of this intersection and wasn't restarted untill well after we had the red light.
x man
[quote=soju lizard]they still run the service but its not always the air conditioned bus. a few months ago i went into the swaggy and bought a ticket for the 3 pm bus up to ermita. at 3, an old crappy 10 seater van pulls up and the driver tells us to climb aboard. i asked the driver where is the nice bus with the a/c, big seats and tv monitors that show movies. he says the owners are trying to save gas money and don't use it unless they have to. only if there are more than 12 passengers.
yes....only if there are more than 12 folks on a 10 seater van!!!! we only had 11 passengers that day so i spent the next two hours sitting between two huge overweight sweaty guys on a van with a broken air conditioner. did i mention that it is still 500 piso?
the swaggy management are a bunch of wankers for pulling this crap imho. a couple of months later i had the same situation only this time i didn't purchase a ticket beforehand as i wanted to see if the same van showed up....it did. when i saw it i took a p50 trike over to the dau bus terminal and paid p130 for a ticket to manila on an air conditioned bus.
to make a long story short...check and see what shows up in front of the swagman before you buy your "bus" ticket.[/quote]
[quote=x man]be careful what you hope for!
the swaggy bus i rode had rotten ac. people opened the windows. the "attendant" never once asked anyone if they wanted drinks or anything. she sat her ass down and checked her text messages. during the rest stop i noticed the bus tires had lost huge chunks of rubber. i guess that accounts for the relatively low speed -- many buses passed us on the way. but the high point was the big intersection in mla near the govt buildings / luneta park. the bus stalled out in the middle of this intersection and wasn't restarted untill well after we had the red light.
x man[/quote]
gud to know xmen i sent them email
[email]bookings@swaggy.com[/email]
and hope others will follow also, so that management might react to this.
if any response i let you guys know. i fly this week to philippines, so i know if things had change with the gud ole "fly the bus", not only the price of the ticket. (lately from 450p to 500p)
gud old times, i remember i was allways exited when i left from manil with fly the bus to angeles city, staff was attentive and friendly, they show some movies. nowadays its seems nobody cares a flyin fxxk about how things run.
happy hunting and heads up!!
blink
[QUOTE=Grubert]Hi lads,
Just a question, is it allowed to set a direct link to the my report? I have written some reports with a lot of pics, which could be interesting. What I say, pics, infos and stuff round about the gilrs.
To post only the report (without fotos) is. Stupid, and to link 100 or 150 pics by hand is. To hard;[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Welcome to ISG and thanks for your photo contributions but it appears that Jackson has already deleted your photos because you displayed your website address in most of your photos. No you cannot link to your website for obvious reasons, refer to the rules. It would be nice to get more contributions from you, both photos and info but it might not be worth the effort on your part.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Of course I immediately went back to Dollhouse and struggled with the mamasan because of that non-compliance! However, I fear that this kind of Filipino cheat happens nowadays more or less regularly!?[/QUOTE]
Hello Hesekiels,
I've never had a really good barfine at DH. It seems that they try to get away with as much as they can. The only reason I go there is because they are open in the day and the a/c is good. But in general, I think the length of time a BG stays with you boils down to if they like you or not.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Good that I'm a butterfly and have a plastic heart[/QUOTE]
Good overall advice in your report Blink. Last time I was in town, my BG wanted me to barfine her again the following day. So I told her I would think about it. Then she sweetens the deal by offering to give me a rebate of 600 (the bars cut). If you like the girl, mongers should try to make a deal because some of them dread showing up for work day after day.
Dollhouse offers a little extra for a big extra price. This is what we call expensive.
"rip-off" is to defraud or steal. I don't think we can say that about DH.
Sorry to split hairs. Native english speakers sometimes use "rip off" when referring to something that is too expensive. Nevertheless, I've never felt defrauded at DollHouse. In fact I went their several times.
X Man
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
I think the DH is a ripf off place, even my gf works there also. Or lets say my gf of the time last time and maybe my gf this time ( I fly this week to PI)
Before she works as doorgurl, barfine was 1300p, now she works as solodancer, bf is 3000p. I told her I wont pay that. I dont care to give her some extra, because IM enjoying with her, but I dont pay the bar. At least thats what my plan is. if she dont chnage back to doorgurl as I told her, she can wait 4somebody else, not me Belive me, there is nothing more for me or anybody else in it or extra to pay this amount.
DH , agassya and las vegas care for korean/asian customers , cause they pay more, or they more quick finish, have smaller dicks or what ever the reason is, gurls prefer also to go with them. En contraire they say they dont like it very much. nevertheless, I will go there and check things out, sometimes ur lucky and sometimes things are changin.
This is what really sucks in AC, just expereince that again with my so called gf. If you like the gurl, its alllmost impossible to make deal to pay her 600p a day, skip barfine and see her evry day or after work. The bars are pretty much dictating the scenary over there and that sucks. So dont get to close with the gurls, cause you know if you dont take her and pay bar, she will go with somebody else.
Well, good that Im a butterfly and have plastic heart. I divide my gf in cathegories and have plenty of them, some serious, some less :D
But for newbies it can be hard.
happy hunting
more on that once Im there
Blink[/QUOTE]
How many bar fines has Mattrick had at DH?
Success depends on how much they like you ........and how much they like you may depend on a lot of things, including who was stuffing the hole before you, and how generous he was.
I had an incredible ride from Miss. J when I was in Manila. She needed money for her birthday. After she nearly fked me to death, she caught a bus to AC to go back to work on Fields. She needed MORE money for her birthday. I got an email telling me when she would be back in MLA (for her birthday), but I was unavailable. I don't think I was invited to the Bday party.
Another girl I met had been fking Fil guys at a KTV. I was her first bar fine (at that bar) and she treated me pretty good. "Sorry baby, but it's 3pm and I'd like housekeeping to change the sheets."
I haven't worked out a formula for success. The innocent looking ones sometimes are a lousy lays, sore puss, or OMG great sex. I used to avoid tatooed ladies, but have come to realize that women into self mutlilation - such as self inflicted holes/ tatoos - tend to like it a bit rough or naughty.
Bar hopping with a bar fine is probaly OK for one bar, but if she's ordering real alcohol, better stick to one bar. Drunk wenches can get unmanageable real quick. Of course half-drunk women ....well, you know...
I still have bad experiences, but I try to talk to them, look them in the eye, and if there are no bad vibes I treat them like a girlfriends....well, almost like girlfriends.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello Hesekiels,
I've never had a really good barfine at DH. It seems that they try to get away with as much as they can. The only reason I go there is because they are open in the day and the a/c is good. But in general, I think the length of time a BG stays with you boils down to if they like you or not.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
I think the DH is a ripf off place, even my gf works there also. Or lets say my gf of the time last time and maybe my gf this time ( I fly this week to PI)
Before she works as doorgurl, barfine was 1300p, now she works as solodancer, bf is 3000p. I told her I wont pay that. I dont care to give her some extra, because IM enjoying with her, but I dont pay the bar. At least thats what my plan is. if she dont chnage back to doorgurl as I told her, she can wait 4somebody else, not me Belive me, there is nothing more for me or anybody else in it or extra to pay this amount.
DH , agassya and las vegas care for korean/asian customers , cause they pay more, or they more quick finish, have smaller dicks or what ever the reason is, gurls prefer also to go with them. En contraire they say they dont like it very much. nevertheless, I will go there and check things out, sometimes ur lucky and sometimes things are changin.
This is what really sucks in AC, just expereince that again with my so called gf. If you like the gurl, its alllmost impossible to make deal to pay her 600p a day, skip barfine and see her evry day or after work. The bars are pretty much dictating the scenary over there and that sucks. So dont get to close with the gurls, cause you know if you dont take her and pay bar, she will go with somebody else.
Well, good that Im a butterfly and have plastic heart. I divide my gf in cathegories and have plenty of them, some serious, some less :D
But for newbies it can be hard.
Happy hunting
More on that once Im there
Blink[/QUOTE]I am suprised to hear your comments about dolls house, because 3 of my now "regular girlfreinds" i met at Dolls House, and now i enjoy a gf relationship when visiting phills instead of bar fining.
These girls i met just wanted me for their boyfreind and they just left the bar, not wanting me to pay a long term barfine, and didn't want money off me, just wanted me to love them, yeah i know it sounds corny! But I think if they really like you romantically then they behave completley differently to you.
See i am in my early fifties and i think alot of these girls are really attracted to the older guys, they think ( rather foolishly) that older guys like me won't fuck around, or want boom boom 7 times in a night like young guys do, this is the beauty of phills you could be 70 and have a 18 year old girl freind!!
Now if there is one bar that pisses me off and that is Blue Nile, now that is a club that only the pretty ones will go with the japs or the koreans.
I had it out there with one of the waitresses. I think me took me for a sucker and padded my bill by P500. Fortunately I caught it and one of my friends that has worked there a long time took care of it. Of course its just not DH that does this its everywhere if your not paying attention. It happen another time at Lolipop. I have had to stunners at DH and they stated that they only usually are with Japenese or Koreans. They both stated I was cute and of course had my time with them bar hopping and some fun. I have been told that I am at good age at 40 where I am still young but not so young where some 20 year olds just do not get it. I am reasonably good looking which also gets me extra encentive when I go in bars. Looks don't mean a thing in ac. Money talks.
[QUOTE=Any Hole]I am suprised to hear your comments about dolls house, because 3 of my now "regular girlfreinds" i met at Dolls House, and now i enjoy a gf relationship when visiting phills instead of bar fining.
These girls i met just wanted me for their boyfreind and they just left the bar, not wanting me to pay a long term barfine, and didn't want money off me, just wanted me to love them, yeah i know it sounds corny! But I think if they really like you romantically then they behave completley differently to you.
See i am in my early fifties and i think alot of these girls are really attracted to the older guys, they think ( rather foolishly) that older guys like me won't fuck around, or want boom boom 7 times in a night like young guys do, this is the beauty of phills you could be 70 and have a 18 year old girl freind!!
Now if there is one bar that pisses me off and that is Blue Nile, now that is a club that only the pretty ones will go with the japs or the koreans.[/QUOTE]
hi,
yes your ryt with blue nile in general, gurls there have an attitude. if they pretty, they either go with asian customrs, or young studs :D or they say they cherry gurls :D. but.....on my previus trip I barfind the wetress in neros and she wont leave my room until I kicked her out :D.
Speaking about DH, I have also gf there, last time I bafiend her evryday for 1300 pesos its ok, since I left PI she keep on miscaling me txt in me evryday. Now she is a solodancer (look up her foto in fotosection) Her pay is now 3k. I told her I dont pay that for her and we see like things are when Im back there this week. If she folows the bar or she folow me. thats what I really meant with it sgetin diff to get the gurls stay away from the bar without paying the barfines. cause they strict (the bars) and dictatng the rules.
Now, in my case Im double fux..d, cause she is from Dh and also lives in Pampanga (avoid Pampangan gurls LOL,nevertheless all my ex gf from Pampanga hhahahaha)
Anyway, Im there soon and see how things will be. Yes they like older guys, caue maybe they assume they not get f..xxd he whole day, but they wrong :D
I post my experience when Im in AC and meet up with her. I might be tere sunday, Im first in Manila
happy hunting
Blink :D
[QUOTE=X Man]How many bar fines has Mattrick had at DH?[/QUOTE]
Only six that I can recall and they were all in the morning or early afternoon, maybe that was part of the problem. The day shift girls are probably not as good as the night shift.
[QUOTE=Sumart]Good report Ploughman! Just one question: you mention Kamagayan in Cebu. I am quite often in Cebu, but I don't know this place. Can you tell us a bit more about it. Most reports in Cebu session even says, that mongering in Cebu is not good ...
Thanks
Sumart[/QUOTE]
Greetings from Udon Thani Thailand. Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond to posts. Kamagayan is a barangay near downtown in Cebu that has long been a center of P4P on the fly. Here's a link to an excellent map of the barangay from the Cebu City government website: [url]http://www.cebucity.gov.ph/Images/Maps/kamagayan.jpg[/url]
The area of greatest interest is the square bordered by Junquera, Sangcianko, Del Rosario and Jakosalem streets. I accessed from Del Rosario (if you see an indent on the map on Del Rosario, that's the alley leading in). If you're a single male on foot you'll be approached by touts (also on the other streets), while if you're on a taxi they'll run after it.
The block is a maze of dark walkways and ramshackle buildings; there's a way in and out just wide enough for a taxi as well. It gets an F for presentation, because a tout will want to lead you down dark and unsafe-looking alleys and understandably many people would balk at that.
He'll lead you to a central courtyard in the middle of the block where there's a basketball court and some boarding houses (the University of San Carlos is nearby). Several groups of girls from different boarding houses will come out (or will already be sitting around). Other locals also will be milling around. Girls look 18-21-ish with not a high level of experience, usually, and mostly average looks.
Even though locals have seen everything, it feels a bit awkward, like you're a center of attention, walking around the area looking at the girls. You have to negotiate with the tout and (another odd thing) pay him or a mamasan the whole amount, which includes the girl's cut. You also have to specify short time or long time. Have bargained ST down to P600 and P700, though I think locals can do even better. Also depends on the girl. Then you take the girl to the hotel.
(Not sure how going by taxi adds to the pricing, as I'm sure the taxi driver gets a cut. Girls will surround the car, and you have to get out to get a good look).
It's also important to ask about any special requests, as the girls aren't usually very experienced. Condom education is very good, and most carry them (could be that an NGO has done work)
So I give it an A- for pricing, about a B- for selection (usually about 30-40 available, it seemed) and a F for presentation. Cebu City could use a branch of L.A. Cafe, but politically I think it's doubtful.
As for the go-gos, some are semi-reasonable with their B1,800-2,000 all-in barfines, but don't forget that girls who work at go-gos that don't have reasonable barfines have bills to pay, too. Was able to set up an afternoon session with one from such a place by slipping her my cell #. She texted me the next day.
I took the 3 pm Swaggman "Bus" from AC to Manila on July 30. It was the van and not the regular bus with movies, drinks, etc.
Save your money, go to the Dau bus terminal and ride a regular full sized air con bus to Manila for about 120 pesos.
Billy Baht
I am somewhat familar with this area.
I would only add two things. First, I would not go there at night, you are really in a "frisky" area of the City.
Second, I have a pinoy relative in Cebu who told me many of the girls in that area - from time to time - work the docks in Cebu, i.e., they are smuggled on board the ships to service whoever is standing in line. Security, health, physical, and otherwise should be your no. 1 concern.
[QUOTE=Ploughman]Greetings from Udon Thani Thailand. Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond to posts. Kamagayan is a barangay near downtown in Cebu that has long been a center of P4P on the fly. Here's a link to an excellent map of the barangay from the Cebu City government website: [url]http://www.cebucity.gov.ph/Images/Maps/kamagayan.jpg[/url]
The area of greatest interest is the square bordered by Junquera, Sangcianko, Del Rosario and Jakosalem streets. I accessed from Del Rosario (if you see an indent on the map on Del Rosario, that's the alley leading in). If you're a single male on foot you'll be approached by touts (also on the other streets), while if you're on a taxi they'll run after it.
The block is a maze of dark walkways and ramshackle buildings; there's a way in and out just wide enough for a taxi as well. It gets an F for presentation, because a tout will want to lead you down dark and unsafe-looking alleys and understandably many people would balk at that.
He'll lead you to a central courtyard in the middle of the block where there's a basketball court and some boarding houses (the University of San Carlos is nearby). Several groups of girls from different boarding houses will come out (or will already be sitting around). Other locals also will be milling around. Girls look 18-21-ish with not a high level of experience, usually, and mostly average looks.
Even though locals have seen everything, it feels a bit awkward, like you're a center of attention, walking around the area looking at the girls. You have to negotiate with the tout and (another odd thing) pay him or a mamasan the whole amount, which includes the girl's cut. You also have to specify short time or long time. Have bargained ST down to P600 and P700, though I think locals can do even better. Also depends on the girl. Then you take the girl to the hotel.
(Not sure how going by taxi adds to the pricing, as I'm sure the taxi driver gets a cut. Girls will surround the car, and you have to get out to get a good look).
It's also important to ask about any special requests, as the girls aren't usually very experienced. Condom education is very good, and most carry them (could be that an NGO has done work)
So I give it an A- for pricing, about a B- for selection (usually about 30-40 available, it seemed) and a F for presentation. Cebu City could use a branch of L.A. Cafe, but politically I think it's doubtful.
As for the go-gos, some are semi-reasonable with their B1,800-2,000 all-in barfines, but don't forget that girls who work at go-gos that don't have reasonable barfines have bills to pay, too. Was able to set up an afternoon session with one from such a place by slipping her my cell #. She texted me the next day.[/QUOTE]
I'll be making my first trip there in January. Could you provide your views of the place in the Thailand forum when you find the time? You probably already know but in case you don't there is a website called udonmap that has lots of non punter info.
[QUOTE=Ploughman]Greetings from Udon Thani Thailand. Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond to posts. Kamagayan is a barangay near downtown in Cebu that has long been a center of P4P on the fly. Here's a link to an excellent map of the barangay from the Cebu City government website: [url]http://www.cebucity.gov.ph/Images/Maps/kamagayan.jpg[/url]
The area of greatest interest is the square bordered by Junquera, Sangcianko, Del Rosario and Jakosalem streets. I accessed from Del Rosario (if you see an indent on the map on Del Rosario, that's the alley leading in). If you're a single male on foot you'll be approached by touts (also on the other streets), while if you're on a taxi they'll run after it.
The block is a maze of dark walkways and ramshackle buildings; there's a way in and out just wide enough for a taxi as well. It gets an F for presentation, because a tout will want to lead you down dark and unsafe-looking alleys and understandably many people would balk at that.
He'll lead you to a central courtyard in the middle of the block where there's a basketball court and some boarding houses (the University of San Carlos is nearby). Several groups of girls from different boarding houses will come out (or will already be sitting around). Other locals also will be milling around. Girls look 18-21-ish with not a high level of experience, usually, and mostly average looks.
Even though locals have seen everything, it feels a bit awkward, like you're a center of attention, walking around the area looking at the girls. You have to negotiate with the tout and (another odd thing) pay him or a mamasan the whole amount, which includes the girl's cut. You also have to specify short time or long time. Have bargained ST down to P600 and P700, though I think locals can do even better. Also depends on the girl. Then you take the girl to the hotel.
(Not sure how going by taxi adds to the pricing, as I'm sure the taxi driver gets a cut. Girls will surround the car, and you have to get out to get a good look).
It's also important to ask about any special requests, as the girls aren't usually very experienced. Condom education is very good, and most carry them (could be that an NGO has done work)
So I give it an A- for pricing, about a B- for selection (usually about 30-40 available, it seemed) and a F for presentation. Cebu City could use a branch of L.A. Cafe, but politically I think it's doubtful.
As for the go-gos, some are semi-reasonable with their B1,800-2,000 all-in barfines, but don't forget that girls who work at go-gos that don't have reasonable barfines have bills to pay, too. Was able to set up an afternoon session with one from such a place by slipping her my cell #. She texted me the next day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billy Baht]I took the 3 pm Swaggman "Bus" ..Save your money, go to the Dau bus terminal and ride a regular full sized air con bus to Manila for about 120 pesos.
Billy Baht[/QUOTE]
Agree, I took that bus from Angeles to Subic. Really shit of an old bus. A/C not working. Bad seats. 3 of 12 people got sick and puked.
I believe much better go with van from Mo (Kokomos), leave around 1130 from Subic and around 1400 from Angeles. Sane price 400 peso.
Visited ABC just for s boxing event some days ago. Really nice place, big pool area in the middle. But far, far too expensive I think to stay there. 125 usd ++.
Tried Mo's (kokomos), but that stinks. The first room they offered me, I could not close the door, just a minor repair necessary but they dont care. In the room I accepted, I found the bathroom door could not be closed, the AC did not work. The swimming pool which was clean in the morning, looked dirty in the evening after all these children playing in there and doing what they do. Also tried their establishment in Subic. Toalet not flushing. Shower hardly working. No bedsheets, they claimed the customer had to ask. With such cheap labour-cost, why they dont just fix it?
All in all, really bad experience, will never go there anymore.
Tried Orchid Inn with large swimming pool. Nice but expensive. 2750 peso (60 USD) for superior room. But they really have a rat problem. I saw them at three different times, and one actually stepped onto my gf's foot. I think the biggest was 13 cm + 13 cm tail, quite big if you ask me. Back home anyone would be chocked, but I dont think they care to much.
Also tried LeMirage. New apartelle right on the Fields with clean rooms. Until 31.aug they have a promo, with good rooms for only 1200 peso. Best bargain these days!
By the way, this rainy season so many girls, very few customers. (dont be afraid rain, only 1 or 2 times a day then finish, buy an umbrella). In DollHouse, open 24/7, sometimes no customers except you. Just let your dick pick, barfine 1300 peso. Happy hunting. I will love to come back soon.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Visited ABC just for s boxing event some days ago. Really nice place, big pool area in the middle. But far, far too expensive I think to stay there. 125 usd ++.[/QUOTE]Hehe, was there too during the event, the most interesting was not the boxing but rather the 50+ girls in the swimming pool loosing their bikini top ;)
The hotel is MUCH better than other ones i've seen in AC, and i stayed in their deluxe room (most basic one but already very good (real 4* level)) for 4000P a night including a great breakfast. The hotel just opened 6 months ago, so everything is brand new. I believe it is actually a good price/ quality offering as you can relax in a room with good AC, closing doors, and without rats ;)
During my 4 nights stay, i barfined from the following spots, where i found what i liked most:
- La Bamba, 1200.
- Camelot, 1200.
- Voodoo, 1300.
- Foxy, perimeter area, 1500, Lead dancer, very pretty and open to all naughty propositions.
I am now in Barrio Barretto (subic) where my adventures continue, i will post in the adequate thread later, but globally i prefer the scene in Barrio, less bars but still plenty enough to find adequate talent, and the girls are much more relaxed and less business-oriented.
hi,
i've just been reading through all the posts from the last few months, so i thought i'd make a few comments based on my last trip in april, 2007.
first i just wanted to say, billy baht (post from 7/26/07), you've said so many good things; you obviously have the right attitude about so many things regarding travel in thailand and the p.i., and we can all learn from your tolerance and maturity. thanks.
this was my 2nd trip to ac, the prior one being in 2004. i think things have changed for the better: more room choices, more eating choices, the new mall, etc. i even discovered a posh english style pub (the "orange lion" i believe) on fields across from the royal amsterdam, which had a nice selection of belgian beers (duvel / chimay / forbidden fruit for 130-180 pesos +/-). it was quite a strange feeling sitting outside watching the 3rd world slumminess that is ac, while drinking some of the finest quality beer in the world.
i wanted to say (without judgement) that the atm machines at the new sm mall are indeed a nice addition. but, as luck would have it, the first morning i went over there to make an atm withdrawal, the machine for china bank froze up and ate my card, leaving me standing there pissed off and speechless. this was my only atm card, and the remainder of my trip would be a hassle without it. i've been to the p.i. twice now, and both times i've encountered serious travelers hassles, so at least i'm (and the p.i. is) consistent! what a drag!
anyway, i was able to get my card back the next day after repeated visits to the retail branch bank in the mall, but it turned out that the network charged my account for the 10,000 pesos which i had attempted to withdraw, so i had to deal with all that after getting back to the u.s. (my bank credited me back the $218. +/- after i finally reached the right contact person). so for the remainder of my stay in ac, i resorted to the good old-fashioned method of trading us currency for pesos at one of the money changers along fields. didn't want to take a chance with my atm card again!
a few quick observations:
1) viagra/cialis street salesman and assorted beggars are a pain, and it takes every bit of restraint i have to ignore them and not lose my cool.
2) a girl at the black pearl (santos street) remembered me from my prior trip there 2.5 years ago, even though i didn't have "relations" with her at that time - unbelievable! the black pearl is still one of my favorite places to go for characters, girls, and fun.
3) stayed at the pacific breeze for all 6 nights i was there. great staff and very comfy, but i have to say its one of the noisiest hotels i've ever stayed in (and i've stayed in many), due to the rooms being positioned around an open courtyard having a fountain and marble tiled flooring everywhere, including the interiors of the rooms. from inside your room, you could even hear what was happening in the lobby 3-4 floors below! too bad about that...
4) i'm sure its just me, but i get tired real fast of the whole "disco bar" scene (the same way i do in thailand). loud stupid music, dancing girls that are so bored that you (as a customer) feel like you are more "on stage" than they are, and being approached for lady drinks multiple times before you can even get one drink of your own down. and they (disco bars) are all basically the same setup. why doesn't one do something different, like having quiet jazz music with available girls sitting on the sidelines who dont approach until you call them over? what a nice change something like that would be!
5) i flew into clark afb this time (from macau on tiger airlines), and it is definitely the way to go! an easy 15 minute ride via your hotel shuttle (300 pesos for pacific breeze) and you're there!
sorry if it sounds like i'm complaining, cause i'm really not. ac is what it is, and everyone can find his own level of fun. personally, i enjoy the perimeter road bars better than fields. and ac really is a great and inexpensive place to find threesomes, which i really do enjoy. i had a pool party one night with a couple girls from geckos; great fun, although i kicked one girl out in the morning in order to have some morning nookie with the other girl. she was truly a 22 year old "stunner" (although i hate that overused term). afterwards we went to breakfast, where she kept talking about her "63 year old boyfriend from canada", who by chance we ran into at margarita station. funny stuff, and only in the philippines.
anyway, thanks for listening. i will go back again. despite its drawbacks, angeles city is still a great time for a very cheap price!
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[QUOTE=The Voyager]
The hotel is MUCH better than other ones i've seen in AC, and i stayed in their deluxe room (most basic one but already very good (real 4* level)) for 4000P a night including a great breakfast.[/QUOTE]
I've just been quoted USD630 for 7 night at the ABC Hotel, including free breakfasts and airport pickup. This amount will be less 5% discount if I pay 50% up front. The hotel looks very nice on their website, but can you tell me if it is within walking distance of the Go Go bars? Forgive my ignorance, but I've never been to Angeles, and I can't find much in the forum about this.
Yes, its right in all the actiom of all the bars.
Scribe,
The ABC hotel is new, I believe it has only opened in the last 6 months. It is centrally located with all of the Fields Ave. bars in walking distance.
Since you are a first time visitor I would recommend downloading a map of Angeles from acmap.com. It is a great resource that was put together by a fellow monger.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Scribe]I've just been quoted USD630 for 7 night at the ABC Hotel, including free breakfasts and airport pickup. This amount will be less 5% discount if I pay 50% up front. The hotel looks very nice on their website, but can you tell me if it is within walking distance of the Go Go bars? Forgive my ignorance, but I've never been to Angeles, and I can't find much in the forum about this.[/QUOTE]
Location is very good; both the SM City and Fields Ave. core areas are walkable without much trouble. OTOH, it's definitely on the high end of a Cheap Charlie market on pricing, so it better be really good.
Alas, I didn't stay long enough in Udon Thani to research. Read some posts about how it used to be great. Beer bars are still operating near Charoensri complex (similar to Chiang Mai), and discos have some girls but they don't always go with you. That was the extent of the research. :(
Cornwall, enjoyed your post. Why don't you bring cash with you to AC,then you don't have a problem with your card in the ATM.
AC is the only way to go. Good luck, mate.
Great report Cornwall.
I agree with your comments about ATM cards. I had one card refuse to work the whole time I was there on my first trip. Luckily I had a back up. Thereafter I carry enough cash for a couple of weeks with the ATM cards as backup.
The thing about the bars and hassling for lady drinks I found could be avoided after the first time IF I stood firm and very politely refused to purchase a lady drink. Thereafter, the good memories that these girls have (and you referred to in the 'Black Pearl' part of your report) meant that they knew I was not going to buy LD, and so they did not even try. That gave me plenty of time on second and third etc visits to eye off the talent before moving in for the kill.
Six weeks to 'wheels up'.
[QUOTE=Scribe]I've just been quoted USD630 for 7 night at the ABC Hotel, including free breakfasts and airport pickup. This amount will be less 5% discount if I pay 50% up front. The hotel looks very nice on their website, but can you tell me if it is within walking distance of the Go Go bars? Forgive my ignorance, but I've never been to Angeles, and I can't find much in the forum about this.[/QUOTE]
Is there a particular reason you want to stay at the most expensive place in town to bring $20 girls back to?
For those recommending carrying cash instead of ATM's, realize that safes aren't as safe as you think. If you loose your cash, it's not replaced by your bank for free. If you loose your ATM card they are replaceable. If an ATM doesn't work when you want to use it, there is another one or it will work later. Bring cash for emergency purposes like when you can't access an ATM and need to change money. It's easy to say bring all cash when you have never lost money from a thief. Always have a backup and another backup.
In regards to ABC Hotel. Most hotels charge like 300 pesos to pick you up from the airport. It's like a 10-15 minute ride. You can eat meals anywhere from like $3 to whatever you want to spend. You have to wake up by a certain time and get down to the restaurant in time to get the breakfasts included with your room. Angeles is a very third world in many ways. It's not a fancy place. Leave your nice jewelery and clothes at home.
[QUOTE=Key Master]You have to wake up by a certain time and get down to the restaurant in time to get the breakfasts included with your room. [/QUOTE]ABC will serve breakfast until 3pm, that's if you're a fan of morning action ;)
And to respond to scribe, yes it is located in walking distance to fields bar and to SM mall.
I should state I have no stake into the hotel bu I found it more enjoyable than other previous hotels I went too. Ok it's more expensive than other hotels, but its better too so the price/quality ratio is still there. I didn't mind bringing 20$ girls back to the room, and they seemed to enjoy the place as well; )
Firewalker, what does accomodation price have to do with the price of p4p? Using your logic, does it make sense to spend $500+ for a plane ticket in order to do $20 girls?
My last visit I stayed at America Hotel for about 1500 pesos. I like the pool there, but I wish the beds had box springs.
Scribe, ABC is walking distance to the action. The Wild Orchid is even closer, has similar standards, but might be hard to get a reservation.
Here are some pictures of ABC. Yea, a bit gaudy. I didn't take any pictures inside, but it looks top quality.
X Man
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Is there a particular reason you want to stay at the most expensive place in town to bring $20 girls back to?[/QUOTE]
The balcony rooms in the back that overlook the pool are my favorites (see pic). Avoid the rooms in the front unless you are a heavy sleeper. The trikes can be very noisy.
Every time I stay here I find women in the pool in only their underwear. Usually this happens at night when someone brings his bar fine(s) back, but this last time it was in the day (see pic)!
American is right in between the Fields area and the Perimeter area. In fact I'm quite fond of the two bars right next store to America Hotel: Emotions and ??? (maybe Top Hat). Emotions they wear cut off t-shirts. When they are on stage you can often see part of their tits hanging out from under the t-shirts. Many of them will be more than happy to flash you.
X Man
Some pictures inside the room.
X Man
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my questions. You'll be rewarded with photos aplenty after my trip.
Hi keymaster,
You make a good point about safes not necessarily being safe. The hotel can open any safe they want with a key (all they do is prise off the little plate that sits between the keypad and the knob, and there it is, the keyhole to get in).
However, my initial experience was that one of my ATM cards did not work for a whole two weeks. So I would have been stuffed had I relied on that card.
I spend about $80 per day (apart from hotels which I put on the credit card)on my trips, so a couple of weeks' worth of $$ works out at $1120. I would not like to lose that amount of money, but on the other hand, nor would I like to be stranded in AC without a functioning ATM card. So I figure it is really a matter of risk management. I get a much better rate of exchange with cash than my bank, and my bank also charges an ATM fee. That altogether works out saving me about $100 per trip by carrying cash. So, if I get eleven trips in without being robbed of the whole amount, then I am ahead. Of course, being robbed of the whole amount is a worst case scenario, since if the heist were to happen half way through, the loss would be half that.
Just from talking to people and browsing these forums, I don't think such heists are anything like frequent enough to cause concern.
My recommendation is ABC.
Before staying at ABC, I stayed at the end of the strip (Walter??) at some hotel where some girl was "allegedly killed". It was not nice. I mean in terms of American Standards, that place was pretty dumpy. It was clean, but the bed was built into a tile structure and the place felt like TJ in Mexico.
I didn't even shower there, I packed up and walked to ABC and asked for availability. At $100USD per night it was pricey, but the difference was day and night. ABC was at the top of luxury. More luxurious than hotels in Vegas (common rooms)... I mean it had a nice bathroom, luxurious bed, etc. etc
Truly a place where a gal wants to hang out all day and F your brains out, just for the privilege of staying there. We had girls who'd call their friends to brag.
When we were there (Feb 2007), the second building was not yet completed, but we stayed in the main building on the 2nd and 3rd floors.
the only con to the room was no elevator... but who cares.. a little stair climbing never killed anyone.
Internet was abundant (with a LAN cable), the staff was cool. Breakfast was good, and it was alot closer than the other dump i stayed at.
Now this is just my opinion. Others didn't mind that hotel for the price and I thought it wasn't BAD for the price, but I'm on vacation. I'm not trying to "survive..." so I went for the big bucks and the ABC hotel compared to ALL the hotels I looked at (I took at look at all the other popular ones) was far above any hotel I looked at in AC.
One note. the Hotel also had a relationship with Mimosa Golf Club and we were able to get a tee time for the following day at Mimosa. Mind you we had to rent clubs, etc.. but it was a blast.
Any questions on AC and ABC, feel free to PM me. I'll be back for a few days in October 4-8. Anybody interested in hitting up some bars together, let me know..
Otherwise, I'm sure I'll find SOMEONE to keep me company!! :)
-Jettsetter
[QUOTE=X Man]Firewalker, what does accomodation price have to do with the price of p4p? Using your logic, does it make sense to spend $500+ for a plane ticket in order to do $20 girls?
My last visit I stayed at America Hotel for about 1500 pesos. I like the pool there, but I wish the beds had box springs.
Scribe, ABC is walking distance to the action. The Wild Orchid is even closer, has similar standards, but might be hard to get a reservation.
Here are some pictures of ABC. Yea, a bit gaudy. I didn't take any pictures inside, but it looks top quality.
X Man[/QUOTE]
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I tried my hardest to remember it (the website is located right on the moving stage). But I got distracted, each of the 7 nights I was in that damn bar!!
Anyone help?
Thanks. Will be there Oct. 4-8. A short trip. Anyone interested in meeting up for a beer, let me know.
I'm a regular in China and have been to AC a few times. Always have a good time here!
Like Rubbery, I tend to take enought cash and have the card as the emergency backup. If your atm card doesn't work I think you can go into a bank and get a cash advance on your credit card.
If Rubbery spends $40 on a room, his daily budget is $120.
I calculated about $160 per day for myself, but that included three domestic flights (MLA - CEBU - Davao - MLA) and over $200 for a new pair of glasses.
If I put my costs in order from the bigeest: Hotel / wine, women, song / domestic travel / shopping / food
X Man
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Hi keymaster,
You make a good point about safes not necessarily being safe. The hotel can open any safe they want with a key (all they do is prise off the little plate that sits between the keypad and the knob, and there it is, the keyhole to get in).
However, my initial experience was that one of my ATM cards did not work for a whole two weeks. So I would have been stuffed had I relied on that card.
I spend about $80 per day (apart from hotels which I put on the credit card)on my trips, so a couple of weeks' worth of $$ works out at $1120. I would not like to lose that amount of money, but on the other hand, nor would I like to be stranded in AC without a functioning ATM card. So I figure it is really a matter of risk management. I get a much better rate of exchange with cash than my bank, and my bank also charges an ATM fee. That altogether works out saving me about $100 per trip by carrying cash. So, if I get eleven trips in without being robbed of the whole amount, then I am ahead. Of course, being robbed of the whole amount is a worst case scenario, since if the heist were to happen half way through, the loss would be half that.
Just from talking to people and browsing these forums, I don't think such heists are anything like frequent enough to cause concern.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]
If Rubbery spends $40 on a room, his daily budget is $120.
[/QUOTE]
Indeed a very handy amount that guarantees always a lot of fun! During my recent stay I burnt that as well, providing me at times even with two barfines per day! The first one from 3pm to 7pm, the second one from 11pm till dawn. Simply great and IMHO every single penny worth it! Where in the world you get a good hotel room, a lot of drinks in various bars plus two horny cuties for 120 bucks? :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Folks:
Before I forget: if you like some great afternoon entertainment, Viper Room is a great place to be! Some pretty dancers on stage and very, very friendly waitresses available.
For all gentlemen who like slightly chubby girls - ask for 'Joy' (waitress). Not the prettiest face in town, but a good body, very friendly and, that's the best, horny like hell! :) Truly a nice companion for the afternoon hours!
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Before staying at ABC, I stayed at the end of the strip (Walter??) at some hotel where some girl was "allegedly killed". It was not nice. [/QUOTE]
You mean the Clarkton?
Cheers!
Security wise, I invested in one of those fake cans (Barbasol Shave Cream). I split my money up between it, the safe (if available), and lock my suitcase.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Hi keymaster,
You make a good point about safes not necessarily being safe. The hotel can open any safe they want with a key (all they do is prise off the little plate that sits between the keypad and the knob, and there it is, the keyhole to get in).
However, my initial experience was that one of my ATM cards did not work for a whole two weeks. So I would have been stuffed had I relied on that card.
I spend about $80 per day (apart from hotels which I put on the credit card)on my trips, so a couple of weeks' worth of $$ works out at $1120. I would not like to lose that amount of money, but on the other hand, nor would I like to be stranded in AC without a functioning ATM card. So I figure it is really a matter of risk management. I get a much better rate of exchange with cash than my bank, and my bank also charges an ATM fee. That altogether works out saving me about $100 per trip by carrying cash. So, if I get eleven trips in without being robbed of the whole amount, then I am ahead. Of course, being robbed of the whole amount is a worst case scenario, since if the heist were to happen half way through, the loss would be half that.
Just from talking to people and browsing these forums, I don't think such heists are anything like frequent enough to cause concern.[/QUOTE]
My hardrive recently needed formatting so I don't have a decent word processor to spell check ect, forgive me this.
Kokomoz: Good news and bad, macaroni with 3 cheeses is the bomb is the good news, bad news is that the Italian sausage sandwich no longer available.
Voodoo: Rivals Treasure Island now for sure, IMHO is better! I had a great time there last week and DS and BCM doing a kick ass job. Made my newbie in tow happy as well as me and my girl and even my hardened expat buddy. That's hard to do in any venue.
SubD: Fix the damn CRs! I'm rarely in a hurry but I hear most complaints about the service, fix that too. But it's still one of my favs to meet up with my buddies and thier dates upstairs. Prices are par for Field's venue and quality is decent.
Fire and Ice: Great early happy hour on Perimeter, P35 drinks from noon to 3pm. The few top shelf girls really know they are top shelf so buyer beware. Overall I really love this bar. Has it all, more than decent line-up, music level just about right, pool table, mostly good attitudes from the girls, clean CR, great layout, and overall a good experience.
Nasty Duck: Good vibe in this bar. BigAl posted about mommy shouting him for taking a pic is about the only complaint I've heard from this bar. The management say they will change the girls uniforms to the half shirts instead of the wire bras currently used by most. Happy hour prices from 3pm-6pm is P35 locals. Got to say that besides Rio/Nifties bars I spend most my free afternoon time here.
Rio/Nifties: Always my fav if out at 2pm. Not usually a stunner, but some of the best times I currently have is in these bars. I wasn't here for the "good old days" but I'm sure these bars are as close as I care to share of what I think might have been. Do have to put in this, longtime is hard to do since the girls can and will make a lot more pesos doing many short times.
Perimeter in general: Honeykos still has the best overall line-up and I must mention the best waitress massage in town. I've always bragged up this bar and still do. The prices seem a bit stable now since is rainy season, but I sense it's going to get worse come September onwards for these bars. I can go on and on, but most has been posted so I won't repeat recent reviews on Perimeter bars. Basically I spend 90% of my bar hopping time on Perimeter due to mostly location then prices. I have no comment on Roadies or Lost In Asia since I don't get up that way lately, but I will assume that Roadies is still the "perfect" bar and Harro is an asshole!
Field's: Don't get there too often, but I have so many buddies coming and going that I'm often obliged to do a barhop about once a week at least.
Voodoo; sticks out first in my mind at the moment. Perimeter attitude girls with prime location of Field's. I already reviewed it in this post so you can see I'm very impressed.
BNG: Too fucking loud!
Alaska: Damn! I'm a cheap fuck down this way but I very rarely leave this bar without buying a LD or two. Pound for pound line-up, Alaska going to win!
Of course I been to many other bars, well almost all of them since my last update so excuse me if I left out some bars since they are basically unchanged since my last post. I will add now that the weak dollar is really fucking with my social life. I lost basically 30%++ since I been here.
I do want to point out one thing. Just a couple years ago you could go to some certain bars for short time for P500 with room on site. Now it's P1,000+ and you have to pay for the room too, P350 at some bars! Unless I'm with the newbie he is going to get ripped. Perimeter used to be the place to go for cheap ano. Now for just a short time is going to cost the tourist more than a barfine on Field's.
In closing: AC is still the place to be. If it wasn't I would move. Bars still change by the hour at times and it's unfair to judge any place from just one visit. I haven't had a very bad experience in a long time but have had some very nice pleasant surprises lately and I think I hit them all.
Bud
Thanks for the bar / restaurant summary.
As recently as March I got a short time in a Perimeter bar for 700. I would have kept her longer, but she declined. I needed more time to explore what her 5'7" body had to offer. I gave 500 tip as for excellent service and attitude and pictures. The bar used to have two ST rooms, but at that time only one. I wonder why this service is in decline. Maybe too much risk for the bar?
X Man
[QUOTE=mongering1]
I do want to point out one thing. Just a couple years ago you could go to some certain bars for short time for P500 with room on site. Now it's P1,000+ and you have to pay for the room too, P350 at some bars! Unless I'm with the newbie he is going to get ripped. Perimeter used to be the place to go for cheap ano. Now for just a short time is going to cost the tourist more than a barfine on Field's.
In closing: AC is still the place to be. If it wasn't I would move. Bars still change by the hour at times and it's unfair to judge any place from just one visit. I haven't had a very bad experience in a long time but have had some very nice pleasant surprises lately and I think I hit them all.
Bud[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Leadbeater405]Andody needing advice about!
Bars with the best girls
Please don't hesitate to pm me.[/QUOTE]Leadbeater405,
Wow, thanks for your great offer! However, I am pretty sure that would be most interesting for all of us! So, why don't you enlighten all our readers in terms of 'bars with the best girls'? Honestly spoken, I am very curious! :)
Cheers,
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Leadbeater405,
Wow, thanks for your great offer! However, I am pretty sure that would be most interesting for all of us! So, why don't you enlighten all our readers in terms of 'bars with the best girls'? Honestly spoken, I am very curious! :)[/QUOTE]
Hello Hesekiels,
Forget about this one for he was banned yesterday. You can check out his parting shot in the banned users hall of shame. I think he was a shill for the ABC hotel.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello Hesekiels,
Forget about this one for he was banned yesterday. You can check out his parting shot in the banned users hall of shame. I think he was a shill for the ABC hotel.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Hello Mattrick:
Bad luck, because now I fear the worst, namely that we will never find out where exactly the best girls are! :)
Now seriously: beauty is always in the eye of the beholder (damn, what a stupid platitude, isn't it!? :) )! However, when Ekspat and I hit dozens of bars three weeks ago I saw vitually everywhere at least one cuty which met my taste.
BTW, this time I had a lot of fun at Ziggy's! Since they have plenty of new girls from Samar on stage their line-up has improved considerably IMHO. So I could not resist and barfined two girls from there - both truly excellent and worth every single peso!
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]I tried my hardest to remember it (the website is located right on the moving stage). But I got distracted, each of the 7 nights I was in that damn bar!!
Anyone help?
Thanks. Will be there Oct. 4-8. A short trip. Anyone interested in meeting up for a beer, let me know.
I'm a regular in China and have been to AC a few times. Always have a good time here![/QUOTE][url]http://asianfields.com/[/url]
but the page is currently down.
the reason is given here: [url]http://www.ocsupport.com/?location=networkstatus&view=181[/url]
I haven't visited their site in ages because the pics and info weren't updated for about 3 years.
[QUOTE=X Man]Like Rubbery, I tend to take enought cash and have the card as the emergency backup. If your atm card doesn't work I think you can go into a bank and get a cash advance on your credit card.
If Rubbery spends $40 on a room, his daily budget is $120.
I calculated about $160 per day for myself, but that included three domestic flights (MLA - CEBU - Davao - MLA) and over $200 for a new pair of glasses.
If I put my costs in order from the bigeest: Hotel / wine, women, song / domestic travel / shopping / food
X Man[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for other people's experiences. I have only had one issue with not getting money out of an ATM one time and that was taken care of by going to another ATM. I have used the ATM mainly for my last two trips. The main issue I heard of problems with ATM's in AC was the availability. But I think with SM Mall it's not really an issue anymore. Otherwise going out to McArthur was the way. I am able to get quite a bit of cash on each visit from my bank, and it might not be the same for other people's banks. I can pull upwards of like $600 a day. Other people might be limited to like $300. If that's the case obviously bringing more cash that I do would have to be if you have some concerns about ATMs working.
One thing I remember from posts somewhere was a problem with a certain network of ATM's that started with a "P". I can't remember the name of the network. I think the best network which I've heard from others is Cirrus for ATM's. If you don't have a Cirrus ATM network for your ATM card, you might want to consider getting with a banking institution that does if you are a frequent visitor. Either way there are pros and cons to all venues of accessing local currency. You take your chances with any of them. The best to me is to have a mix of options rather than depending on one.
Note that relatively often the ATMs will fail due to communications problems etc. Sometimes when that happens, it gives you no money, but the transaction goes through to your bank anyway. I lost a bunch of money not realizing this was happening and not keeping a close enough eye on my bank statement.
A way of getting around this problem is to alway check your balance, then withdraw money. There's a small chance comms will go down in time you are actually at the ATM, but it is a lot better than your odds otherwise.
[QUOTE=Blunderer]Note that relatively often the ATMs will fail due to communications problems etc. Sometimes when that happens, it gives you no money, but the transaction goes through to your bank anyway. I lost a bunch of money not realizing this was happening and not keeping a close enough eye on my bank statement.
A way of getting around this problem is to alway check your balance, then withdraw money. There's a small chance comms will go down in time you are actually at the ATM, but it is a lot better than your odds otherwise.[/QUOTE]
That sounds more like robbery me to me. Did it happen at the same ATM? I understand the infrastructure isn't that good, but that shouldn't happen if it didn't dispense cash. I had that happen once when I hit the button to withdraw money and later the machine froze and gave me some error message. I went back to my computer and logged on for the next few days checking to see if the transaction went through or not. It didn't.
[QUOTE=mongering1]
SubD: Fix the damn CRs!
[/QUOTE]
Including the door knobs! The newbie friend and I got stuck in the upstairs bathroom when the door knob came off in my hand. Luckily our hardened expat buddy was at a table and got a good laugh from coming to let us out when I called him.
That was the same night the newbie left and went somewhere else because the newbie waitress refused to tell him what was in pancit Canton and would only say "it's Filipino food." So obviously the service could use some work, also, but overall I found it no worse than Mo's.
[QUOTE]
I do want to point out one thing. Just a couple years ago you could go to some certain bars for short time for P500 with room on site. Now it's P1,000+ and you have to pay for the room too, P350 at some bars! Unless I'm with the newbie he is going to get ripped. Perimeter used to be the place to go for cheap ano. Now for just a short time is going to cost the tourist more than a barfine on Field's.
[/QUOTE]
Yes, and I really think bar owners are shooting themselves in the foot with this. Charging anything extra for use of a ST room only makes sense if demand is exceeding supply. Otherwise, they WANT customers to use the room, as it means that the girl finishes and is back to work much quicker. Also, with more and more Field bars opening in the afternoon, there is becoming less of a reason for the occasional tourist to venture out to Perimeter.
Hi,
Pacific breeze has a massage, its 800 pesos...anyboy tried it..any hanky panky going on???
Please PM me or report here.
Met some guys from australia last nyt in bar, they told me they have been to the market. One pinoy took a pictures from them and ask for money. They told him to fuck off and then they got in trouble, furnitures flyin and all of the sudden evry guy there jumps on them.
Police came but nothing happen, the guys starting the fight and the aussie guys been released.
They meet some nice lookin gurls there. Im not so sure about them, they keep on flirting with me also , when their "aussie boyfriends"lookd other directions.
I told the guys to be careful, ignore fights, cause you cant beat up pinoys in their own country, you will have the whole family and brgy against you.
Happy hunting and heads up!!!
Blink
Well, in most cultures (including Australia) you don't tell people to "fk off". Well, you might if you have one big happy smile on your face.
Nevertheless, blink has some good advice. Stay calm, don't insult anyone, make a joke to diffuse tension (you should pay me for my model picture!). I know it's good advice, but not always been able to follow it myself.
Oh, I'm sure the PB massage is full of hanky panky....looking forward to someone who's tried.
So, Blink, did you slip those girls your phone number? Who gives a flying fk about some ozzie wankers.
X Man
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
Pacific breeze has a massage, its 800 pesos...anyboy tried it..any hanky panky going on???
Please PM me or report here.
Met some guys from australia last nyt in bar, they told me they have been to the market. One pinoy took a pictures from them and ask for money. They told him to fuck off and then they got in trouble, furnitures flyin and all of the sudden evry guy there jumps on them.
Police came but nothing happen, the guys starting the fight and the aussie guys been released.
They meet some nice lookin gurls there. Im not so sure about them, they keep on flirting with me also , when their "aussie boyfriends"lookd other directions.
I told the guys to be careful, ignore fights, cause you cant beat up pinoys in their own country, you will have the whole family and brgy against you.
Happy hunting and heads up!!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hippie]Yes, and I really think bar owners are shooting themselves in the foot with this. Charging anything extra for use of a ST room only makes sense if demand is exceeding supply. Otherwise, they WANT customers to use the room, as it means that the girl finishes and is back to work much quicker. Also, with more and more Field bars opening in the afternoon, there is becoming less of a reason for the occasional tourist to venture out to Perimeter.[/QUOTE]A lot of guys who use a ST room don't have the option of taking the girl to their hotel as they either already have a girl/girlfriend there or they are AC residents with a wife at home.
A bar owner is providing the room for sheer convenience and privacy for these type of punters, because for anyone else, a quick trike ride gets you back to your hotel (or some decent clean hotels nearby already have ST rates for P350).
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, in most cultures (including Australia) you don't tell people to "fk off". Well, you might if you have one big happy smile on your face.
Nevertheless, blink has some good advice. Stay calm, don't insult anyone, make a joke to diffuse tension (you should pay me for my model picture!). I know it's good advice, but not always been able to follow it myself.
Oh, I'm sure the PB massage is full of hanky panky....looking forward to someone who's tried.
So, Blink, did you slip those girls your phone number? Who gives a flying fk about some ozzie wankers.
X Man[/QUOTE]
Hi there,
went in the pacific breeze and went out again after I saw the massage room, actually its only one and it was allready occupied by korean guy. They ask me for their room service but I passed on that, cause u never know who is coming. To many options here..LOL.
Took one solodancer out of DH and yeah, I pay the 3k barfine, who cares, she was hot and I was hot too and I have to say she gave a very gud service. 5"8 and big susu, easy to spot.
went to the Pacific breeze pool today and had some beers with friends (after breakfast LOL)..guess who came in??? My barfine from last night, hehehehe..met her other boyfriend..or merienda victim..funny deja vu :D
Going now to heartbreakers , saw a nice 5"8 tall and slim gurl there also. I love those cuties..slim and tall, thats my thing..
Xmen, no I didnt get the info yet, but I PM it to you if I met the gurls again :D
I stay now in Pacific breeze and I can say its gud hotel, gud beds , gud shower and nice staff. Pool area is really nice, I stay some more nights there, cause my new gf is coming there tomrow, met her on chat and the first meeting will be in my hotel, hahahahaha....well lets see..more on that laters.
weather is fine here, I realy like the rainy seasons, its not hot and after a shower u get fresh air and if there is to much rain you just stay in ur room with ur honeyko.
Life is great!! Gotta go...
Happy hunting!!
Blink
This question is focused on transportation to Clark, so some might argue it belongs in the transportation forum, but the Angelese/Clark experts are here, so the question is too.
I've spent lots of time in the Philippines, but have never traveled on my own to Angeles/Clark, so I need answers from others. A co-worker arrives in Manila at 9PM and must travel to the Holiday Inn at Clark. I don't want him to take the bus, something along the lines of a taxi/Tamaraw would be preferred. I don't think it matters if he shares with 1 or 2 others, but a bus/Jeepney is out. It is preferable that he be able to get the transportation at the airport on arrival.
What are his options?
[QUOTE=Blink157]
Took one solodancer out of DH and yeah, I pay the 3k barfine,
Blink[/QUOTE]
Hey brothers.. did I miss something? $3k at DH? have th rates gone up lately or is this just isolated to this performer at this location? Do tell? I'm out in that area again in the beginning of Oct., and certainly would be disappointed to see the rates everywhere like this.
-Jettsetter
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Hey brothers.. did I miss something? $3k at DH? have th rates gone up lately or is this just isolated to this performer at this location? Do tell? I'm out in that area again in the beginning of Oct., and certainly would be disappointed to see the rates everywhere like this.
-Jettsetter[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, Jettsetter! 3,000 pesos barfine at Dollhouse is indeed just the rate for their 5 to 10 'spotlight dancers'! The other hundreds of girls go still for 1,300 pesos. Similar at Las Vegas: 'solo dancers' 2,000 pesos, waitresses and 'normal dancers' 1,300 pesos.
However, whenever I see dozens of cuties on stage I am wondering why to pay more than double as much for the assumed 'superstars'?
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Of course they are, but that in no way affects the validity of the argument I am making. It is a win-win situation for the bar, because the girl misses much less work. Charging 300-500 for the room makes no sense, because at those rates the guys can just take the girl to a short time hotel for about the same or less money, and generally get a lot better room and have a more relaxed time with the girl. There are also guys who just want a quickie, and don't want to go to the trouble of going to a hotel. Some of them might pay for the room, but many won't.
[QUOTE=Correspondent]A lot of guys who use a ST room don't have the option of taking the girl to their hotel as they either already have a girl/girlfriend there or they are AC residents with a wife at home.
A bar owner is providing the room for sheer convenience and privacy for these type of punters, because for anyone else, a quick trike ride gets you back to your hotel (or some decent clean hotels nearby already have ST rates for P350).[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure, but maybe the point that Correspondent was making is that guys with long term relationships CANNOT be seen out and about with other women and therefore have no choice but to pay the room fee.
And in some cases the ladies come from Pampanga and tell their families they are waitresses. They also have reasons not to be seen walking into a hotel with some guy. This may be rare, but I came across it once. Of course this is a good reason for the bars to keep their short time rooms....
Also, why does the girl miss less work? Short time gives you what? I think it's two hours. You mean less time in a ST vs. LT situation?
X Man
[QUOTE=Hippie]Of course they are, but that in no way affects the validity of the argument I am making. It is a win-win situation for the bar, because the girl misses much less work. Charging 300-500 for the room makes no sense, because at those rates the guys can just take the girl to a short time hotel for about the same or less money, and generally get a lot better room and have a more relaxed time with the girl. There are also guys who just want a quickie, and don't want to go to the trouble of going to a hotel. Some of them might pay for the room, but many won't.[/QUOTE]
I will be in Angelse tonight for the first time i should arrive pacific brezze hotel about 5p.m. if any one wants to have a drink maybe we can meet up give me your mobile number and i can call u.. i will buy the first round.
Thanks and see you guys soon.
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Hey brothers.. did I miss something? $3k at DH? have th rates gone up lately or is this just isolated to this performer at this location? Do tell? I'm out in that area again in the beginning of Oct., and certainly would be disappointed to see the rates everywhere like this.
-Jettsetter[/QUOTE]
Hi,
no just stupid horny guys who are fixed on one type of gurl like me paying this :D....seriously this is for solodancers and showmodels in DH....they also have 1300p..in most of the places its between 1000 and 1400(showgurls agassya)
Life is great, just kissed my chatgurlfriend gudbye and ready for another adventures.....
remember......dont txt the gurls, let them txt you......
Life is gud, staying at the Pacificbreeze, posting some pictures here laters in fotosection.....
mabuhay patay
Blink
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Don't worry, Jettsetter! 3,000 pesos barfine at Dollhouse is indeed just the rate for their 5 to 10 'spotlight dancers'! The other hundreds of girls go still for 1,300 pesos. Similar at Las Vegas: 'solo dancers' 2,000 pesos, waitresses and 'normal dancers' 1,300 pesos.
However, whenever I see dozens of cuties on stage I am wondering why to pay more than double as much for the assumed 'superstars'?
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
It is total bullshit paying for a spotlight dancer. There was one at DH that just the week before was in a Perimeter Bar and could be had for 1000. Most of those so-called dancers couldn't even get a job as a stripper in LA. Who wants a girl that has been fucked so many times by a bunch of overspenders anyway? I'd rather pull one of the waitresses.
[QUOTE=X Man]
Also, why does the girl miss less work? Short time gives you what? I think it's two hours. You mean less time in a ST vs. LT situation?
X Man[/QUOTE]
No, in the sense that she spends a lot less time going to a hotel and coming back. Also, when guys go ST in a bar, they frequently just go in the room, do the deed, shower (hopefully) and come back out. Average time is probably under 30 minutes, from what I have seen. When they take the girl to another location, they are more likely to take the full two hours or whatever period is allotted. Partly because their lust has cooled down a bit during the trip to the hotel, partly because there is just a different feeling to the situation when you take a girl off the premises. Of course, I am generalizing. There are exceptions.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]It is total bullshit paying for a spotlight dancer. There was one at DH that just the week before was in a Perimeter Bar and could be had for 1000. Most of those so-called dancers couldn't even get a job as a stripper in LA. Who wants a girl that has been fucked so many times by a bunch of overspenders anyway? I'd rather pull one of the waitresses.[/QUOTE]
As someone who worked as a DJ and manager in topless clubs during college, I have no doubt that those girls could all get a job in any but the very highest end strip clubs in the USA with no problem. However, I agree with you that I would never pay 3000 to barfine them. (That's why I don't go to Manila in the first place.) I believe the bar fine is set that high to prohibit them from being barfined frequently. The club wants them there to do the shows and keep customers coming in and buying drinks.
[QUOTE=Hippie]As someone who worked as a DJ and manager in topless clubs during college, I have no doubt that those girls could all get a job in any but the very highest end strip clubs in the USA with no problem. However, I agree with you that I would never pay 3000 to barfine them. (That's why I don't go to Manila in the first place.) I believe the bar fine is set that high to prohibit them from being barfined frequently. The club wants them there to do the shows and keep customers coming in and buying drinks.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about Manila, but the DH spotlight dancers specifically. Actually, the spotlight dancers get barfined excessively there.
Okay, you have a point and I've noticed the same thing. I don't want to continue this thread forever, but I'll post one more possiblitiy...
THose married guys do the in and out as quickly as possible (30 min?)...in order not to raise suspicions. Again, a captured market who will pay extra for the discretion.
Guys like me try to squeeze in a second round. Of course if the first round is unsatisfactory, I might be out in 30 min too! So, I think everyone is right in this discussion.
The only point that WAS NOT covered was my earlier assertion that having ST rooms on the premises poses additional risks to the bar. Allowing guys to pay an EWR seems to pose a lot less risk than having mirrored rooms in the back with female employees buck naked in the back with old Joe from Alabama.
Of course the Santos ave bars do manage quite well with this business model, but aren't they Philipino owned?
BTW, noticed the Black Pearl has increased their number of computers. I have to respect a business that diversifies. I bet they doubled their income with that little trick.
X Man
[QUOTE=Hippie]No, in the sense that she spends a lot less time going to a hotel and coming back. Also, when guys go ST in a bar, they frequently just go in the room, do the deed, shower (hopefully) and come back out. Average time is probably under 30 minutes, from what I have seen. When they take the girl to another location, they are more likely to take the full two hours or whatever period is allotted. Partly because their lust has cooled down a bit during the trip to the hotel, partly because there is just a different feeling to the situation when you take a girl off the premises. Of course, I am generalizing. There are exceptions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asian Explorer]This question is focused on transportation to Clark, so some might argue it belongs in the transportation forum, but the Angelese/Clark experts are here, so the question is too.
I've spent lots of time in the Philippines, but have never traveled on my own to Angeles/Clark, so I need answers from others. A co-worker arrives in Manila at 9PM and must travel to the Holiday Inn at Clark. I don't want him to take the bus, something along the lines of a taxi/Tamaraw would be preferred. I don't think it matters if he shares with 1 or 2 others, but a bus/Jeepney is out. It is preferable that he be able to get the transportation at the airport on arrival.
What are his options?[/QUOTE]
Go to [url]www.theville.com[/url] and reserve a ride from them. They will pick up anywhere in Manila and deliver anywhere in AC. P2,100 for a car, best value I know of. 0918-518-2436 is the cell number for them.
Yes, you can get an airport taxi to deliver you directly to AC. The cost is P2,800.
Bud
Hi guys,
Im here on holiday and if I like the gurl I barfine her, even if its 3k. They have some gorgoues gurls in DH and Im a picky guy and rather go for quality then for quantitiy, of course Im not stupid, if I see another gurl I like and goes for the usual 1200p or so I barfine that one.
I took a dancer from Dh last time, she screwed me all night, gud performance and we danced all night im my bed.....yesterday I had 3 gurls there, spend them shots make friends and leave them my cp numbers to come over to my pool before they work. I have a gfs allready and Im serious to all of them (LOL), if I barfine a gurl she must be my taste 100% and drop dead gorgeous, otherwise I wont spend money on her.So, I guess evrybody is free to do as he like.
Btw lookin at the real estate offers here, I guess angeles city will be on his way to be a secound las vegas style entertainment venue in Asia....gud thing its still cheap, di ba??
Happy hunting!!
Blink
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Who wants a girl that has been fucked so many times by a bunch of overspenders anyway? I'd rather pull one of the waitresses.[/QUOTE]
Well, Fire Walker, I believe that virtually all of them are quite overused, aren't they? :)
Now seriously, the only thing that really matters is a good service at reasonable costs. So, for 3,000 pesos I would rather barfine two waitresses instead of one spotlight dancer! Folks, let's be honest, what is more exciting than a great threesome? At least I enjoy it - always! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Back in The mid-1980s, I spent many military leaves in Angeles City. My favorite bars were off Peremeter Road, behind the Oasis Hotel on a cul-de-sac. Red Baron was one but I don't recall the names of the others. Also, are the four bars still in business.
Haven't been back since 1987 when I married a Filipina. She is everything I wanted in a wife so no real reason for more hunting.
Planning a return in 2009 for 60th birthday.
I have enclosed some old photos to jog the memory.
Slim
OVERUSED??? Get serious. All the girls I barfine have been on the job for less than a week. The fact that they are so great at bedroom acrobatics is probably a process of osmosis. They somehow absorb these skills by dancing next to the real pros.
And the waitresses. of course they are models of purity and goodness. Surely Hesekiels is barfining two waitresses for the only the most conventional activities....going to church maybe....
X Man
Hesek, I've never done a 3some. Despite how nice the fantasy sounds, I'm always thinking that it would double (or triple depending on how you do the statistics) the chance of bad personal vibes.
The obvious advice is to find two ladies who are friends (or lovers), but if you have any other advice or ancedotes, please share.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Well, Fire Walker, I believe that virtually all of them are quite overused, aren't they? :)
Now seriously, the only thing that really matters is a good service at reasonable costs. So, for 3,000 pesos I would rather barfine two waitresses instead of one spotlight dancer! Folks, let's be honest, what is more exciting than a great threesome? At least I enjoy it - always! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Back in The mid-1980s, I spent many military leaves in Angeles City. My favorite bars were off Peremeter Road, behind the Oasis Hotel on a cul-de-sac. Red Baron was one but I don't recall the names of the others. Also, are the four bars still in business.
Haven't been back since 1987 when I married a Filipina. She is everything I wanted in a wife so no real reason for more hunting.
Planning a return in 2009 for 60th birthday.
I have enclosed some old photos to jog the memory.
Slim[/QUOTE]
hi,
maybe Im wrong , but it looks to me like the bar from the old chicago bar hotel, now central park hotel.Theyhad some nice cuties there, last visit this bar 1997...its gone allready.
Blink
[QUOTE=X Man]All the girls I barfine have been on the job for less than a week.
Surely Hesekiels is barfining two waitresses for the only the most conventional activities....going to church maybe....
I've never done a 3some.
... but if you have any other advice or ancedotes, please share.[/QUOTE]
Hi X-Man:
Well, it would be my greatest pleasure to tell you personally a couple of anecdotes over a bottle of SMB (let's say on the 20th December 9pm at La Pasha?)! :) But giving 'advices' might be slightly unfair since tastes are mostly different. However, of course I am glad to share some of my experiences with you. So, here we go:
Contrary to the barfines you had, my girls were in the business for at least 6 months.
Yes, you are right: whenever I barfined two waitresses/dancers it was indeed 'only for the most conventional activities!' But certainly not for going to church. Since I did not find a synagogue in AC we went straight to my hotel room instead! :)
You never had a threesome? Man, what have you missed until now!? So, you might reconsider that since you can get it easily for the price of one spotlight dancer!?
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
great old pics nvslim
Too bad the girls can't walk around naked like that anymore.
Hello Columpuss,
Tissue manufacturers would be very upset at the loss of sales.As you may know, most dancers stuff several down the front, unlike in Pattaya.
I look forward to being back in AC. in a few weeks.(Live in China)Visitor since pre-Pinatubo.
Some suggestions for the budget-conscious:
10P for a jeepney from CRK to jeepney station.(Jeepney goes from Route 1 site to departure lounge. )
DM Residente, Koala, Patio etc.at ca. 900P/night. Never had a complaint from BF girl.Comfortable,air-conditioned, pool. As they say, "It's up to you"
In July, 750 ST and 1200 LT.(leave 9am) Be a nice person, this is what you get.
(Generally Perimeter prices, though not exclusively)
I enjoy this forum as a "newbie". Keep up the good work!
Chickenlegs 1
[QUOTE=Chickenlegs1]I look forward to being back in AC. in a few weeks.(Live in China)Visitor since pre-Pinatubo.Chickenlegs 1[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a PM but I guess you're not a paid member yet. I'll be in AC Sep 28 for a week. My usual hangout is with the cherry girls at Lanies tourist hangout next to Insomnia. Buy you an SMB. Welcome to the forum.
I live in China too.
QH
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Well, Fire Walker, I believe that virtually all of them are quite overused, aren't they? :)
Now seriously, the only thing that really matters is a good service at reasonable costs. So, for 3,000 pesos I would rather barfine two waitresses instead of one spotlight dancer! Folks, let's be honest, what is more exciting than a great threesome? At least I enjoy it - always! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
A lot of the girls do not have that much sexual experience. My point was that when a girl is a spotlight dancer there is a silly notion that they are special because they cost more to barfine. They end up getting barfined alot because guys with money believe that. For 3 thousand pesos, I can barfine 3 girls on Perimeter and they are probably better dancers.
Last year, one spotlight dancer at DH was a few weeks earlier working at Limited Edition. She got arrested in the Tea Times raid for eating pussy onstage during a Perimeter Party. Anyone could have barfined her for 1000 anytime before that. Actually, she also continued working at Limited Edition during the day for a while and at DH at night.
Hi there,
Glad to be a part of this forum.
I will be arriving in Manilla at 10: 30 at night and want to get to AC. It will be a first trip there after numerous trips and living in Thailand.
What is the best way to get to AC at that time of the night. The cost is not a factor. Just want to get there. (from Zyborgian Korea)
If I only have carry on luggage and meet a driver for example on a Friday night, at about what time would I get to AC?
And can someone recommend a Hotel for the first night. Good but not great with a king size bed and tiled floors. And thereafter which hotel in AC has the best pool. As in large and deep and yessss. Clean. Having local lovlies lolling around would be nice too.
One last question if I may. Coconuts. Actually the worlds largest seed. Are there places or people selling coconuts around Angeles. The water is 100% sterile and bio-chemically similar to blood plasma. Kept many a GI alive during the Pacific War with transfusions. Great for blood sugar issues as well and weght loss.
Looking forward to writing up a comparative report with Pattaya. The English speaking ability of the Filipinos will be interesting.
Alas I will only be there from late Friday night to the following Wednesday.
Thanks in advance.
Core
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Back in The mid-1980s, I spent many military leaves in Angeles City. My favorite bars were off Peremeter Road, behind the Oasis Hotel on a cul-de-sac. Red Baron was one but I don't recall the names of the others. Also, are the four bars still in business.
Haven't been back since 1987 when I married a Filipina. She is everything I wanted in a wife so no real reason for more hunting.
Planning a return in 2009 for 60th birthday.
I have enclosed some old photos to jog the memory.
Slim[/QUOTE]Dont know of any bars that survived Pinatubo.
Many bars have changed hands/name several times just in the past few years!
I'm sure your wife is great, but is she everything that you want in a *****?
(Well Ac will always be there for that! ;) )
And a planned trip for 2009?? Its a nice touch that it will be your 60th, but you could be dead before then, its 2 years away!
Get your ass over here soon, while you still can!
G'day Qiao Man,
Qiao min means expat in Putonghua, but I suppose you understood the pun. The reason a lot of us expats come here is, though Chinese girls can be drop dead gorgeous, AC girls have it all over them in the boom-boom stakes. QM mentioned Insomnias. Peter, one of the managers, loves talking about cricket and football. Next thing it's 5 am. Anyhow, he lined me up with a couple of good BFs for the next night. Nico at Butterfly Rock is also good for a chat.
See anyone interested at Lanies (28/9/07) and we can compare notes.
[QUOTE=FireWalker] My point was that when a girl is a spotlight dancer there is a silly notion that they are special because they cost more to barfine. They end up getting barfined alot because guys with money believe that. For 3 thousand pesos, I can barfine 3 girls on Perimeter and they are probably better dancers.
[/QUOTE]
FW:
I've got your point! BTW, if I am not mistaken Perimeter bars have increased their barfines to 1,200 pesos!? Can anybody confirm that?
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Coremine]Hi there,
Glad to be a part of this forum.
I will be arriving in Manilla at 10: 30 at night and want to get to AC. It will be a first trip there after numerous trips and living in Thailand.
What is the best way to get to AC at that time of the night. The cost is not a factor. Just want to get there. (from Zyborgian Korea)
If I only have carry on luggage and meet a driver for example on a Friday night, at about what time would I get to AC?
And can someone recommend a Hotel for the first night. Good but not great with a king size bed and tiled floors. And thereafter which hotel in AC has the best pool. As in large and deep and yessss. Clean. Having local lovlies lolling around would be nice too.
One last question if I may. Coconuts. Actually the worlds largest seed. Are there places or people selling coconuts around Angeles. The water is 100% sterile and bio-chemically similar to blood plasma. Kept many a GI alive during the Pacific War with transfusions. Great for blood sugar issues as well and weght loss.
Looking forward to writing up a comparative report with Pattaya. The English speaking ability of the Filipinos will be interesting.
Alas I will only be there from late Friday night to the following Wednesday.
Thanks in advance.
Core[/QUOTE]
Core,
Glad to see you're coming out, but if you'll just do a little reading you'll find the answer to just about all your questions. It really doesn't take that much effort, and generally the reports will be very informative. I know we just talked about hotels and transportation in the last few pages, so this is a nice way of saying RTFF.
-Jett
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]BTW, if I am not mistaken Perimeter bars have increased their barfines to 1,200 pesos!?[/QUOTE]
1,000ps for BF seems history, but I'm not sure whether 1,100 or 1,200ps nowadays.
Different with each bar I think. And since I barfine usually after lots of SMB, I don't remember exactly.
I'll confirm on next trip 8th/Sep onwards.
Cheers!
Hi Coremine,
IMHO, you are better off getting a ca. P100 metered taxi to a hotel like the Park Oasis (1900/night) or the Amazonia in Emrita. At the last one the freelancers will be all over you, esp. At that time of night, in the bar. Then you can take your time in getting to AC, after savouring the delights of one of the Manila girls.
Regards,
Chickenlegs
From Korea, can't you fly into Clark?
I'll assume you're flying into MLA.
Cost is not a factor? Contact Wild Orchid and ask them to pick you up at the airport.
[email]info@wildorchidresort.com[/email]
[QUOTE=Coremine]Hi there,
Glad to be a part of this forum.
I will be arriving in Manilla at 10: 30 at night and want to get to AC. It will be a first trip there after numerous trips and living in Thailand.
What is the best way to get to AC at that time of the night. The cost is not a factor. Just want to get there. (from Zyborgian Korea)
If I only have carry on luggage and meet a driver for example on a Friday night, at about what time would I get to AC?
And can someone recommend a Hotel for the first night. Good but not great with a king size bed and tiled floors. And thereafter which hotel in AC has the best pool. As in large and deep and yessss. Clean. Having local lovlies lolling around would be nice too.
One last question if I may. Coconuts. Actually the worlds largest seed. Are there places or people selling coconuts around Angeles. The water is 100% sterile and bio-chemically similar to blood plasma. Kept many a GI alive during the Pacific War with transfusions. Great for blood sugar issues as well and weght loss.
Looking forward to writing up a comparative report with Pattaya. The English speaking ability of the Filipinos will be interesting.
Alas I will only be there from late Friday night to the following Wednesday.
Thanks in advance.
Core[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ekspat]1,000ps for BF seems history, but I'm not sure whether 1,100 or 1,200ps nowadays.
Different with each bar I think. And since I barfine usually after lots of SMB, I don't remember exactly.
I'll confirm on next trip 8th/Sep onwards.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Hi Ekspat:
Great! I also look forward to reading your next post(s)! In the meantime virtually ALL girls in AC must know you personally - and vice versa!? :) So, I suppose that you have some nice and entertaining stories for all of us?
Keep the pen active, brother!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Thanks for the replies - and I had done some reading.
As I have never been to AC, I want to ask about the travel time to AC from the airport on a Friday night leaving with a AC pick up taxi at maybe 12:30 midnight.
The last thing I want is to be stuck in large city for hours. When I'm hanging out to get laid - looking forward to multiple encounters of an enticing kind
How does this compare to an early morning Saturday departure. Maybe at 6:00 am. The daylight would allow for actually having a look at Manila on the way out to AC. Would there be a big difference between the two travel times?
The idea of staying at the Amazonia in Emrita looks good - to arrive and be sucked in by wet lips within an hour certainly has its appeal :)
Do AC hotels send taxis to Manila hotels to pick up guests ?
Do local taxis take people out to AC as it done in Bkk to Pattaya? And if so, how much should one pay?
Decided to stay at the Pacific Breeze. The email communiation is excellent with the Hotel. Quick full query responses. They answered my question re coconut water.
3 weeks until the play begins.
Oh - I live in Pusan here in Korea and there are no flights to Clark from here.
The local girl scene here after 4 years living in Thailand is awful by the way - just don't play - older scaggy woman want US100 for a 20 mintue encounter. Don't think so.
Thanks again,
Core
Travel would be less than two hours, probably about an hour at those times because of the light traffic.
AC hotel ride question I already answered (check the URL) and yes regular taxis will go to AC as they do Bkk - Pattaya.
Too bad about Pusan. I was there about 25 years ago and it was a lot of fun in those days. I picked up a real sweety on Texas Street. From what you wrote about the place, she may still be there!
X Man
[QUOTE=Coremine]Thanks for the replies - and I had done some reading.
As I have never been to AC, I want to ask about the travel time to AC from the airport on a Friday night leaving with a AC pick up taxi at maybe 12:30 midnight.
The last thing I want is to be stuck in large city for hours. When I'm hanging out to get laid - looking forward to multiple encounters of an enticing kind
How does this compare to an early morning Saturday departure. Maybe at 6:00 am. The daylight would allow for actually having a look at Manila on the way out to AC. Would there be a big difference between the two travel times?
The idea of staying at the Amazonia in Emrita looks good - to arrive and be sucked in by wet lips within an hour certainly has its appeal :)
Do AC hotels send taxis to Manila hotels to pick up guests ?
Do local taxis take people out to AC as it done in Bkk to Pattaya? And if so, how much should one pay?
Decided to stay at the Pacific Breeze. The email communiation is excellent with the Hotel. Quick full query responses. They answered my question re coconut water.
3 weeks until the play begins.
Oh - I live in Pusan here in Korea and there are no flights to Clark from here.
The local girl scene here after 4 years living in Thailand is awful by the way - just don't play - older scaggy woman want US100 for a 20 mintue encounter. Don't think so.
Thanks again,
Core[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Hi Ekspat:
Great! I also look forward to reading your next post(s)! In the meantime virtually ALL girls in AC must know you personally - and vice versa!? :) So, I suppose that you have some nice and entertaining stories for all of us?
Keep the pen active, brother!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
1000 pesos Perimeter Bar
1200-1250 Fields
[QUOTE=Chickenlegs1]
Some suggestions for the budget-conscious:
10P for a jeepney from CRK to jeepney station.(Jeepney goes from Route 1 site to departure lounge. )
Chickenlegs 1[/QUOTE]
I was told there was no public transport from the Clarke airport to the Fields.... is there a jeepney from arrivals hall to fields?
SC
For some reason there is no public transport from Clark to the town. If you want to catch a Jeepney you have to walk to the main street. The guy outside will call cab for you. It will cost 200 pesos to Fields area.
If you have prearranged Cab from the Hotel it will cost 300 to 400 Pesos.
Take a Taxi. It is not worth lugging yourself and the luggage to save couple of dollars.
[QUOTE=Coremine]Thanks for the replies - and I had done some reading.
As I have never been to AC, I want to ask about the travel time to AC from the airport on a Friday night leaving with a AC pick up taxi at maybe 12:30 midnight.
The last thing I want is to be stuck in large city for hours. When I'm hanging out to get laid - looking forward to multiple encounters of an enticing kind
How does this compare to an early morning Saturday departure. Maybe at 6:00 am. The daylight would allow for actually having a look at Manila on the way out to AC. Would there be a big difference between the two travel times?
The idea of staying at the Amazonia in Emrita looks good - to arrive and be sucked in by wet lips within an hour certainly has its appeal :)
Do AC hotels send taxis to Manila hotels to pick up guests ?
Do local taxis take people out to AC as it done in Bkk to Pattaya? And if so, how much should one pay?
Decided to stay at the Pacific Breeze. The email communiation is excellent with the Hotel. Quick full query responses. They answered my question re coconut water.
3 weeks until the play begins.
Oh - I live in Pusan here in Korea and there are no flights to Clark from here.
The local girl scene here after 4 years living in Thailand is awful by the way - just don't play - older scaggy woman want US100 for a 20 mintue encounter. Don't think so.
Thanks again,
Core[/QUOTE]
If leaving manila that late, traffic should be very light (unlike during day & early evening) - should be about 1.5 hours. Many of the bars close at 2 a.m., but some are open later including Dollhouse & Voodoo (both 24 hours). Both are very close to Pacific Breeze so you can still find a girl for your first night. Pacific Breeze is a good choice - great service and a very nice pool. They can have a driver pick up at airport & take you to the hotel - costs P2400 i think. I'd suggest doing this rather than getting a cab since cost will be about the same & you can trust Pacific Breeze to provide a good car & driver who'll be waiting for you. I think Pacific Breeze sells coconut at their restauarant.
I flew in to Clark last month (first time) on business for one night and I stayed at the Holiday Inn on Clark. The hotel taxi was 600P to Fields and local cab 200P back. Nice girl friendly hotel, just too far from town. When I departed I went to ABC hotel to meet my co-worker, who I didn't know was there until the next morning and he had a driver for 2000P to take us back to Manila. Next time I will stay in town.
Robb
You can have a private car from Pacific Breeze pick you up from the airport or a hotel in Manila. Your ideal of leaving Manila at 6 am to see the city should be squashed not for travel time, but for logistics and stuff. No reason to see Manila in the daylight. There isn't much to see imo. It's ugly. Also, what's the point of getting to AC at 8 am. If you stay in Manila the first night, you don't want to have to get up that early. If you arrive at 10 am, your room might not even be ready. Take your time. Also, if you decide to stay in Ermita the first night, you can walk over to LA Cafe for the freelancer action. Also, you would be very close to Swagman and can take a bus from there for like 500 pesos that will take you straight to your hotel in AC. There are only three trips a day though, so you'll have to check the schedule and get there a little beforehand and purchase your ticket. Just another option instead of a private car.
Thank you for the replies. I have booked a room at the Pacific Breeze (pity one can't actually take a dip into the Pacific itself).
Roselle at the Hotel has been wonderful via our email exchanges. Full and rapid replies. They will have a coconut ready upon my arrival Bliss in Heaven. And then into Voodoo to begin a 4 day baccharian onslaught.
They will send a car to the airport to carry me off to AC which will make life even smoother.
I do intend to bonk a lot during my stay. Would the hotel staff see this as poor taste (too indulgent)? . This guy bring back multiple girls sometimes in 2' and 3's each day. Do they give a fuck? Can I ask for and get multiple towel changes? I would tip the cleaning lady and pay for the extra towels.
Listening to George Noory interviewing NZ's Jonathon Grey about his expeditions and his books. Ancient archaeology.. Fascinating
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?theearch&plindex=5[/url]
Thanks again for the input. It has been most helpful.
Regards. Core.
Itinerary...
Depending on when you get in, if you want some instant action, I'd suggest hitting up AIRFORCE ONE right next to the airport.. You could have your urge satisfied in a Thailand style fishbowl selection within 30 minutes of your arrival (maybe even 15).
I'd then have the staff help you negotiate a ride back to AC, or going to the Margaritaville Station website and have them send a driver to pick you up from AF1 after you're nice and "spent."
Then just go to your hotel, and if you're "spent", go to bed, or try to find some action when you get in late at one of the 24 hour joints or some freelancers at one of the bars still open (not familiar with this scene).
If you're really good, maybe you can arrange for someone to meet you before you get into town via chat or getting someone's mobile, and having them wait for you when you get there... I'm sure your driver will know of some gals or contacts to some at any hour.
I'm a big fan of AF1.. reminds me to BKK Massat places like Catherine or Emannuelle or Evita... ahhh... the memories.
happy hunting.
-Jettsetter
Thanks Jett, the guy who started this thread hasn't said a word, as is so unforunately common. But glad you could post some extra info. There was once an ISG (jedi) master, known as CL, who also recommended these "air force" or "AF" places.
I should go someday....
X Man
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Itinerary...
Depending on when you get in, if you want some instant action, I'd suggest hitting up AIRFORCE ONE right next to the airport.. You could have your urge satisfied in a Thailand style fishbowl selection within 30 minutes of your arrival (maybe even 15).
I'd then have the staff help you negotiate a ride back to AC, or going to the Margaritaville Station website and have them send a driver to pick you up from AF1 after you're nice and "spent."
Then just go to your hotel, and if you're "spent", go to bed, or try to find some action when you get in late at one of the 24 hour joints or some freelancers at one of the bars still open (not familiar with this scene).
If you're really good, maybe you can arrange for someone to meet you before you get into town via chat or getting someone's mobile, and having them wait for you when you get there... I'm sure your driver will know of some gals or contacts to some at any hour.
I'm a big fan of AF1.. reminds me to BKK Massat places like Catherine or Emannuelle or Evita... ahhh... the memories.
happy hunting.
-Jettsetter[/QUOTE]
Initially, there was a legitimate complaint about those not following through within this forum after an initial topic question has been posited. Well, in my initial posting I pledged to offer a comparitive report between Angeles and Pattaya - and that will needfully occur after my first trip to the Philippines.
And again, it is a little difficult to continue a thread when one is a pre-newbie. All that we (those not yet exposed, and I dare imagine enthralled by AC's life) can do is to posit legit questions. I have done that earlier today, along with some comments about the Pacific Breeze's professionalism. That offering, alas, has yet to appear at this time of writing.
Thanks for sharing the idea of heading straight to Air Force One - having googled it a bit - the place looks like a lot of fun - and yes this boy is
bee-lining directing to the harem -
I trust that the Pacific Breeze's driver can be enticed to picked me up from there. I'll try anyway... Having spent oneself there at AF1, I see myself contentedly napping on my way out to AC - and once having arrived there, having the energy to go out again for No 2... :)
Alas, the hardships of being a single male.
Below is an entry for A F ONE
Again :)
Core
Air Force One stories
Jan. 06, 2006
(Published on Page B3 of the January 6, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer)
The nightclub Air Force One is building a similarly humongous branch in the Libis area of Quezon City, barely three years since it blasted into the scene to become the best KTV-men's "spa" in Metro Manila.
Ferdinand Topacio, lawyer for one of the Air Force One partners, confirmed that the consortium of low-key Chinese-Filipino owners had chosen a warehouse in Libis for the expansion.
Topacio declined to go into details, until all the regulatory issues shall have been resolved. Located near the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Parańaque City, the one-hectare Air Force One complex had originally been designed as a shopping mall but the business was scuttled with the onset of the 1997 currency crisis.
Despite its out-of-the-way location, Air Force One has generated a buzz not only among the local patrons but also even in Internet blogs worldwide.
Said to be the same group behind the successful Classmates KTV nightclub on Quezon Avenue's entertainment row, the Air Force One owners successfully improved the industry image with a combination of a live-performance theater that has attracted the likes of such movie stars as Ara Mina, Angelica Jones, Maui Taylor and Patricia Javier, tastefully designed private rooms and the acceptance of credit card payments even for "spa" services.
The ground floor even has a branch of HSBC and a 24-hour ATM for emergency cash withdrawals.
Following its airline motif, the spa is even named, in a nod to its target clientele, "Flight 168" -- 168 in Mandarin apparently sounds like "gain fortune all the way."
The private rooms, which come in first and business classes, even sport airline initials and flight numbers.
I have heard of Airforce One but never been. I just got bak from my every 4 month trip and will head back to Philippines in November. I will have pics and result of trip in next few days. Anyway, what are the prices at airforce one and what is the routine. My guess its bar with fishbowl. Anyway what are the prices there and where near the airport is it? Thanks!
Copied from a blog - edited.
Posted January 03, 2006 So could be more expensive now ....
[quote]Air Force One – near the airport.
"Economy class" rooms cost P1500. "Business class" rooms cost P2500. "First class" rooms cost P3300. There is a 20% discount during promo hours of 12 noon to 6 pm.
So now I would like to introduce you all to probably how a Massage Parlor should be run. If I have VIP guests from other countries, I always take them to Flight 168!
Flight 168 is the MP arm of Air Force One. It is located in Airport Road, near Dampa. There is an HSBC ATM right beside it and even an ATM inside the MP itself. Handy when you suddenly realize you are short in cash (remember, the MPA doesn't take credit cards for "extra service. ")
Flight 168 tries to maintain an airport motif. You see clocks displaying the different time zones, people are dressed as if they are flight attendants, their rooms are numbered and categorized according to airlines (so you will see rooms named after Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific), and when an attendant is ready, you can hear someone cry out: "Number 52, ready for boarding. "
The place has two levels: the "economy" section, which is at the same floor as the KTV, and the more expensive "business class" and "first class" area, which is a floor below the KTV. Both have a nice waiting area, their own viewing room, and their own selection of attendants. I have tried the "economy" section once, and I found the rooms comfortable.
But the "business class" and "first class" rooms are the kicker. You are greeted with a wide lobby that looks like the lobby of a 5-star hotel. Drinks and pastries are available. This is one of the poshiest---if not THE poshiest---Massage Parlor lobby I have ever seen. Subdued lighting. Soft music. Courteous and well-dressed waiters. And they serve beer in tall glasses, although one San Mig light cost P120. They even have a foot spa!
Now the rooms are spacious. Very spacious. Almost as spacious as that of a 5-star hotel. I am not sure if the beds are either king-sized or queen-sized, but definitely not the tight single bed you see in some other MPs. Each room has their own shower and steam bath. "Business class" rooms have no jacuzzi but the "first class" rooms do have one. You have a cabinet and hangers for your clothes (some other MPs just have hooks on the wall to hang your clothes). Condiments include the standard shower, soap, bath gel, shaver, toothpaste, toothbrush, mouthwash, deodorant. One unique touch is that Flight 168 has aromatherapy fragrances. Plus bath robes. And you can control the ambiance of the room, from blaringly bright to a dim, cozy atmosphere just right for some "romance. "
"Economy class" rooms cost P1500. "Business class" rooms cost P2500. "First class" rooms cost P3300. There is a 20% discount during promo hours of 12 noon to 6 pm?[/quote]
[QUOTE=Ploughman]
Overall I find myself wanting to cut my time allocated to Angeles on future trips vs. time for other places in the PI. Reason: The bar-hopping routine in Angeles seems like too much work and too time-consuming compared to options like LA Cafe in Manila (may it survive...) or Kamagayan in Cebu. Call me spoiled, but I'll try to lay out the case:[/quote]
You mention "kamagayan" in Cebu. What the heck is that. I think i'm losing my memory at the ripe old age of...early 40s. I've been in cebu for 8 months of the last 2 years and thought I'd heard it all.
Thanks.
sigh...
The same question was answered twice and could also be answered by searching for Kamagayan on the Internet.
Hint: Jonquerra is a road in Cebu....
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]You mention "kamagayan" in Cebu. What the heck is that. I think i'm losing my memory at the ripe old age of...early 40s. I've been in cebu for 8 months of the last 2 years and thought I'd heard it all.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coremine]
I do intend to bonk a lot during my stay. Would the hotel staff see this as poor taste (too indulgent)?[/QUOTE]
Not at all. The hotel staff would be worried and may think there is something wrong with you, if you don't do bonking at its best. :D
Cheers!
I've personally had the pleasure of going there, and while the prices are likely double or triple that of Angeles, the nice thing about the MP scene is the ability to see all available girls right away, and the level/quality of service.
The place is in a strip mall from the outside, on the same street as the airport. Literally you could likely walk to the airport (although I wouldn't given the neighborhood). A cab ride is literally minutes away.
The strip mall is called something like City Mall or Airport City Mall... as you enter, ground floor, they check in bags (absolutely no cameras). The place sorta looked abandoned, like it wasn't open yet.. that's probably because i always go in the afternoon.
So you enter ground floor and immediately have to go upstairs. As you walk upstairs on the left, there's the "economy section," which has a fishbowl. You wouldn't know it and would think it's abandoned by walking by... but there is, trust me.
As you walk to the end (past the economy section), you take an escalator down and there's ANOTHER fishbowl. Now both times I went, I picked someone from the business section, but from what I heard there's no difference in service. It's more about the rooms, but from what I know, you can't take an economy girl to business or vice versa.
The prices posted below are accurate.. not cheap, but by US standards, not expensive... the girls' service both times I went were pretty good... showered together, lots of dfk, bbbj, by both gals... just a nice time and couldn't complain..
both times, I got numbers but never ended up calling... they have 3 shifts (from what I asked) with the prime time being around 8 p.m. Pretty sure they open until about 2 a.m. (somewhere around there, can't remember for sure).
Some warnings:
Now the hardest part about AF1 is getting a cab out. . I waited about 15 minutes for a cab to take me... and they wanted flat rate to take me back to Makati - RIP OFF. Go to the street and flag a cabbie down with the meter.
Another warning: drinks outside... AF1 has a lounge... prices are pretty hefty, so just know how much they are before you pay for it.. we ordered some mango drinks, and they must've been about $5 USD each... heft by PI standards...
Anyways, have a good time... AF1 is the perfect off the plane retreat.
On a side note, I'd highly recomment AF1 be your BEFORE trip place.. the beauty about this place is that you can SHOWER, relax, and take a small nap before and/or after your flight.. nothing like being clean before and after a flight.
-Jettsetter.
Hi!
I have seen the body paint exhibition from Mattrick, Ekspat and Xman posted in May 2007! Great bodies! Great shots!
A question: as I understand the pictures are taken in Dollhouse, Angeles City, are the girls in body paint available for the lower fee 1200P or the higher 3000P?
I haven't been to AC yet but hope to be there in about a month from now. I like the tall and skinny type of girls like these ones:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70239[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70114[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70243[/url]
How common are tall and slim girls like that compared to the a bit more chubby ones? Are prices and availability about the same or is it the tall and slim that are taken early in the evening? Is there any place that has more of that body type than others? Some reports suggest that the girls on the Fields are a bit more classy, does that equal my preference; "Tall and Slim"?
Would be greatful for all answers!
(Posted this first in the photo section. But I guess this is a more appropriate board for questions.)
Hello all,
I am a real newbe and first timer in Philipines. Because of good words in this Forum I decided to go for it and I booked 4 Days ABC Hotel with Jaccuzi.
If you go out the hotel to the left are the cheaper bars. Drinks 55p, lady drinks 100 and barfine 1000p.
That it is cheaper does not say anything about the service I can tell you from experience.
The Gentlemensclub is not a fancy club but the admosphere is great. Nobody is pusing everybody relaxed and nice girls.
If you go from the ABC to the right site and visit bars like Blue Nile, Dollhouse and Camilot the prices getting much higher like 75P drink, 150p Ladydrink and 1300 barfine.
I have barfined a nice lady from the Gentlemensclub and she stayed 3 days. The last day I asked her to invite a friend. So I could sit in the jacuzi with 2 beatiful ladies.
I can tell you it was a wonderful experience
Thanks Mattrick for good information!
PS! Tweedy looks great to me!
You are more likely to find more chubby ones than the tall and skinny in AC in my opinion. If they are available, they are probably a bit more likely to be barfined earlier than later. Those pictures are not necessarily a good ideal of the normal quality there as those pictures skew them. AC is more for the GFE than finding real hot women. If you want that, you might want to head more towards Manila, but the price goes up. I am pretty sure that's not Dollhouse. Telling you where to find a certain type of woman in AC is difficult as the bars can change real fast. Either way it's cheap and the place is really small so you can hit a majority of bars without any transportation.
[QUOTE=The Lucky Guy]Hi!
I have seen the body paint exhibition from Mattrick, Ekspat and Xman posted in May 2007! Great bodies! Great shots!
A question: as I understand the pictures are taken in Dollhouse, Angeles City, are the girls in body paint available for the lower fee 1200P or the higher 3000P?
I haven't been to AC yet but hope to be there in about a month from now. I like the tall and skinny type of girls like these ones:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70239[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70114[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70243[/url]
How common are tall and slim girls like that compared to the a bit more chubby ones? Are prices and availability about the same or is it the tall and slim that are taken early in the evening? Is there any place that has more of that body type than others? Some reports suggest that the girls on the Fields are a bit more classy, does that equal my preference; "Tall and Slim"?
Would be greatful for all answers!
(Posted this first in the photo section. But I guess this is a more appropriate board for questions.)[/QUOTE]
hi,
dollhouse has modelshow on wednesday and all the models/spotlight dancers can be barfined as low as 3k LOL. SOme of the better loookin gurls are spotlightdancer but u can also find sometimes cuties there for 1300p or so.
If you not in a hurry, start barhop early and barfine before 8pm so u get the hot ones, otherwise you end up with.....well.....san miguel and not so hot ones :D.....
I just came backfrom PI (4 weeks hahahahaha) and report laters here some updates.
hope that helped a bit...
Happy hunting
Blink
[QUOTE=Key Master]You are more likely to find more chubby ones than the tall and skinny in AC in my opinion...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Blink157]If you not in a hurry, start barhop early and barfine before 8pm so u get the hot ones, otherwise you end up with.....well.....san miguel and not so hot ones :D.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for good info!
I think I will go for AC anyway. I want to see what Blow Job Row is before it disappear. How many here has actually tried it? The price is low and the degree of "sex without effort " must be the highest on the planet, but what about the girls? Are the girls there average for AC or are they significantly below (which would be my best guess.)?
The first and last body paint photos are from Las Vegas, which typically has a model show on Friday or Saturday each week. Two of the skinny models in the pictures are sisters who are no longer in AC. In Feburary I sampled both of the sisters in their body paint for 1300 pesos each. It's always been a great show.
As Angeles growths further,
looking through my pictures of long time gone events....
I've found a scan of a bill.
4 SMB,
1 ST,
1 LD.
Total was 720 pesos.
Hard to get nowadays I guess...
Cheers!
Hi Lucky Guy,
You can find a variety of types in blow row. There are definitely some cuties.
However, some are cherry girls who will only do BJ. (BBBJ easy to find).
I also find that a lot of the regular barfines from the regular gogo bars do not give BBBJ, so I often have a barfine at night from the gogo, and a session in blow row during the day when in AC.
Good for a beer or two and some relief at lunch time.
They also have a cheap 'sample' session where you are not supposed to 'finish'. Ie 'sample' is cheapest, BBBJ is more expensive and BBBJ and fs is most expensive IF they do it. So you need to establish up front what the cost is just in case you lose control. Whatever, it won't break the bank.
Thanks for the fr about two women who aren't available. If you know something, report it.
[QUOTE=Montrose]The first and last body paint photos are from Las Vegas, which typically has a model show on Friday or Saturday each week. Two of the skinny models in the pictures are sisters who are no longer in AC. In Feburary I sampled both of the sisters in their body paint for 1300 pesos each. It's always been a great show.[/QUOTE]
LD?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]As Angeles growths further,
looking through my pictures of long time gone events....
I've found a scan of a bill.
4 SMB,
1 ST,
1 LD.
usually it's "lady drink"
OK, thanks for that. Duh.
My first trip to Philippines was when Marcos was Prez...but I don't rememer the prices. I seem to remember prices were cheaper as the clock ticked closer to martial law curfew.....he, he....the good old days.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]usually it's "lady drink"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Lucky Guy]Thanks guys for good info!
I think I will go for AC anyway. I want to see what Blow Job Row is before it disappear. How many here has actually tried it? The price is low and the degree of "sex without effort " must be the highest on the planet, but what about the girls? Are the girls there average for AC or are they significantly below (which would be my best guess.)?[/QUOTE]
I want to somewhat recorrect what I said earlier. I am not necessarily saying that the majority of the women are chubby, I was saying you will more likely find chubby than a lot of tall and skinny women. I don't know if that was really more clearer or not. Anyway, there are a lot of women there period. I think of it kind of like Pattaya where there are a lot of women, and a lot of women I wouldn't do, but enough women that I'm attracted to to do. I am kind of particuliar, and I like tall and thin but that's a little harder to come by I think. You are more likely to find short and thin. To me Blow Row is no big deal, but whatever floats your boat. There are a lot more clubs open in the daytime now than before where you don't really have to go looking down Perimiter so much anymore, but it's definitely still worth going to as the whole entertainment section is really quite small and to me Perimiter and Fields are the same logistically. If you have the time, I say go for it. The women aren't as sexually experienced as I would like there, but they are nice companions. I felt the sex was at a much higher level in Manila but at a higher price for some reason. There are decent to good looking women in AC to keep anyone happy.
Again thanx to Jettsetterer/ Keymaster/ Steve74 for the ideas and suggetions.
Plan to visit Airforce One the Massage Harem near the airport on the way back home, as my flight leaves at 4:10 am. Apparently it closes at 2:00 am
So will leave AC at about 12 midnight and head to Airforce One. A great idea expressed earlier, is to shower. Bonk. And then again have good shower, freshen up as the last task of duty before heading to the airport.
And great to know that a long trip (from AC to the airport) is the not to be endured. And there is always a possibily of something happening with the taxi. Just can't miss that plane.
Two weeks to go until AC touchdown
I am also glad to have found the Harry's site :
[url]http://www.harrythehorse.com/[/url]
Harry's monthly slots of info and insight comes from one who lives in AC -
One question - Does anyone have Harry's email address?
I can't see it there on his website - maybe he wants it that way.
Thanx
Core minus 13 days :)
Hi,
I tried santos santos street on my last trip august. I stayed pacific breeze ,so evrytime I walked home I saw some cuties at night and ask my self why not try them out on a time you dont go barhop or u just wanted to relief and look for new cuties but no pressure to barfine them.
So I went to one place called truck stop. It happen that this place belongs to the owner of the wild orchid, at least thats what I m thinking cause I found the guy and his friends there. he bought me a drink and I told him I stayed at pacific breeze :D....anyway place look nice and I saw 2 hotties who fit my taste. Tall and slim. I waved one to me and bought her a drink. I asked if she wanted go with me for short time and told her I stay nearby.
She said she aint gud at blow job(hahahaha) but say is ok she go with me.
her vitals are 5"6, 18 years old , slim and from samar.
Price was 600 p (hahahahaa cheap!!!) she did bbbj, sex and I tip her 200 p for her performance. I walked her out of my hotel and have to say that I will continue on my next trip to visit the santos gurls , cause I think its a pretty gud value for money what u get there.
Question to all my fellow mongers, did somebody tried WOW, its the small shabby place at the corner of santos. When I walked home at night I allways saw at least one or two gurls of my liking over there.
happy hunting
Blink
Tried them all. Its like fishing, sometimes a great one swims by, and sometimes nothings biting (no pun intended).
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
I tried santos santos street on my last trip august. I stayed pacific breeze ,so evrytime I walked home I saw some cuties at night and ask my self why not try them out on a time you dont go barhop or u just wanted to relief and look for new cuties but no pressure to barfine them.
So I went to one place called truck stop. It happen that this place belongs to the owner of the wild orchid, at least thats what I m thinking cause I found the guy and his friends there. he bought me a drink and I told him I stayed at pacific breeze :D....anyway place look nice and I saw 2 hotties who fit my taste. Tall and slim. I waved one to me and bought her a drink. I asked if she wanted go with me for short time and told her I stay nearby.
She said she aint gud at blow job(hahahaha) but say is ok she go with me.
her vitals are 5"6, 18 years old , slim and from samar.
Price was 600 p (hahahahaa cheap!!!) she did bbbj, sex and I tip her 200 p for her performance. I walked her out of my hotel and have to say that I will continue on my next trip to visit the santos gurls , cause I think its a pretty gud value for money what u get there.
Question to all my fellow mongers, did somebody tried WOW, its the small shabby place at the corner of santos. When I walked home at night I allways saw at least one or two gurls of my liking over there.
happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
Yup I have done the Blow Row Adventure for quick afternoon relief. The one I went to was directly accross from Wild Orchid. Of course that limits 2 of them. I was at the one on the far left. Anyway, I elected the 2 girls which was well worth it cuz I make sure I take my time to blow my load but gee whiz it was worth it for the P 1000 for 2 girls. Yes blow row is getting smaller and smaller and I noticed when I showed up in August an area on santos had been leveled. So I guess little by little it seems to be disapearing. But the great thing about Blow row is it is BBBJ and some will and some will not swollow but they take it in mouth till completion. How nice! Oh and the ones that don't swoolow usually spit or run to bathroom upon completion! Blow row is a must for any first timer. Hey I just got to thinking. I got to plan now to go back in November!
[QUOTE=Coremine]Again thanx to Jettsetterer/ Keymaster/ Steve74 for the ideas and suggetions
I am also glad to have found the Harry's site :
[url]http://www.harrythehorse.com/[/url]
Harry's monthly slots of info and insight comes from one who lives in AC -
One question - Does anyone have Harry's email address?
I can't see it there on his website - maybe he wants it that way.
Thanx
Core minus 13 days :)[/QUOTE]I think his email is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Good luck and take care.
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Gentlemen, a moment of silence, the current dissipation of Blow Row signals the end of an era.
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Yup I have done the Blow Row Adventure for quick afternoon relief. The one I went to was directly accross from Wild Orchid. Of course that limits 2 of them. I was at the one on the far left. Anyway, I elected the 2 girls which was well worth it cuz I make sure I take my time to blow my load but gee whiz it was worth it for the P 1000 for 2 girls. Yes blow row is getting smaller and smaller and I noticed when I showed up in August an area on santos had been leveled. So I guess little by little it seems to be disapearing. But the great thing about Blow row is it is BBBJ and some will and some will not swollow but they take it in mouth till completion. How nice! Oh and the ones that don't swoolow usually spit or run to bathroom upon completion! Blow row is a must for any first timer. Hey I just got to thinking. I got to plan now to go back in November![/QUOTE]
The leveled part of the street.
RIP
[QUOTE=Coremine]Thank you for the replies. I have booked a room at the Pacific Breeze (pity one can't actually take a dip into the Pacific itself).
Roselle at the Hotel has been wonderful via our email exchanges. Full and rapid replies. They will have a coconut ready upon my arrival Bliss in Heaven. And then into Voodoo to begin a 4 day baccharian onslaught.
They will send a car to the airport to carry me off to AC which will make life even smoother.[/QUOTE]I'm coming to AC for the first time and tried to stay at Pacific Breeze but it's full. Read about ABC on the forum; seems nice but pricey. Anyone have recommendations for a nice hotel along the same lines?
Thanks guys for good info about Blow Job Row! Appreciated!
Cowboy Mike, did you take the video inside one of the bars? It's very dark on the screen, is that intentionally or was it something wrong with the video I downloaded?
I have seen a lot of pictures taken inside of the bars in AC, is it OK to take pictures inside the bars in the Philippines? In Thailand there are signs everywhere to not use a camera, is Phil different?
[QUOTE=Key Master]I want to somewhat recorrect what I said earlier. I am not necessarily saying that the majority of the women are chubby, I was saying you will more likely find chubby than a lot of tall and skinny women. I don't know if that was really more clearer or not. Anyway, there are a lot of women there period. [/QUOTE]
Key Master, I think I understand what you want to say; there are a lot of chubby ones, but slims can be found. I guess it's like the Pattaya beer bars: yes it's possible to find beauties but you have to work (=walk from bar to bar) to find them.
My experience with Pattaya is that there are much easier to find beauties in the Go-go bars than in the beer bars. How is AC compared to that; is the AC bar girls more like the ones in Pattayas go-go bars or like Pattayas beer bars? (I understand that AC only has the equivalence to go-go bar, no beer bars Pattaya style).
By reading this forum I get the impression that most guys think that Thai girls are more beautiful than Philippines, but from elsewhere I have got the opposite impression. This forum seems to suggest that the main advantage with Phil ladies is that they are more GFE, hotter in bed and cheaper, but not as beautiful as Thai ladies. Whats you comment on that?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]The leveled part of the street.
RIP[/QUOTE]
Looks like a booming economy! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
I'll be in AC for 5 days in October. Are there many moneychangers available in AC as in BBK? Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Wantoknow]I'll be in AC for 5 days in October. Are there many moneychangers available in AC as in BBK? Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]
Hey brothers,
Will be in town October 5 for about 4 days. It's a pre-trip to AC before I head to China for some more fun. Anyways, if anyone else is around, and want to go bar hopping together (more fun in groups in my opinion), grab some food, go dirt biking around town, then PM me and let me know.
I'm staying at ABC for my duration.
-Jettsetter
I never been to Angeles before but I had Filipina a girlfriend for a long time in Manila. She would fuck me to death constantly and I am 25 years old. I have been to Thailand 4 times in the pass year and I only experienced this with one bar girl in Pattaya and I will tell I have slept with many girls in Thailand, Phuket, Pattaya, Bangkok you name it but them damn Filipinas the US Marines called them LBFM for a reason. I was dating one in Korea back in 04 and one in Japan in last year same results. Sweet in public but an insatible ***** in bed.
The Thai WGS are prettier though. Making my cherry trip to Angeles in December.
Take it sleazy
[QUOTE=The Lucky Guy]By reading this forum I get the impression that most guys think that Thai girls are more beautiful than Philippines, but from elsewhere I have got the opposite impression. This forum seems to suggest that the main advantage with Phil ladies is that they are more GFE, hotter in bed and cheaper, but not as beautiful as Thai ladies. Whats you comment on that?[/QUOTE]
It's kind of true in my eyes. Pattaya is huge compared to AC. I think of AC as a much smaller version of Pattaya. There are more hotter women in the agogo's of Pattaya easily. There are some pretty hot women in AC but spread out and probably harder to find and barfine. But at the same time there are a lot of girl next door types, not real hot but attractive and nice personalities. I have more fun with the women in PI because they are more relaxed and can communicate. I find most of the women in Thailand's P4P are a little more mercenary. I think you should just give it a try. If you don't like it, which is possible, you can cut your trip short and go somewhere else possibly. My first time there I didn't like it, but I've liked it more and more as I've gone.
Yes, of course there are money changers. This has been discussed many times on the list.
I think the consensus is don't put all your eggs in one basket. Having too much cash is risky. ATM machines sometimes don't work.
Pick pockets work on the jeepneys and in the mall.
X Man
[QUOTE=Wantoknow]I'll be in AC for 5 days in October. Are there many moneychangers available in AC as in BBK? Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]
Generally, you can't take pics in the bars. Several exceptions...
1) Some places put on a special show -- DollHouse for example. Then they allow pics.
2) Perimeter bars seem to be more relaxed. They might allow it, or at least turn a blind eye. It might depend on which manager/owner is there, or how "nice" you are perceived to be.
Buy a girl a drink. Ask her if you can take her picture. If she says yes, go for it. A manager might come up and ask you to stop. Apologize and put your camera away.
Don't pull out your camera and start taking pics of girls on stage without their permission. You might get away with it once or twice, but eventually you'll have a girl or two go ballistic on you.
If you want stage pics, follow my advice above about buying a drink. Take her pic when she's on stage. Encourage other dancers to enter the frame. Later show them the pcitures. Offer to send the pictures to their email accounts -- and since they are writing down their email address, they may as well write down their phone number too.
If the management has let you get this far, you have pics, email addresses and phone numbers. Make sure you write down names, bar name, date. Otherwise you'll end up with a notebook full of contact info and not be able to remember which one is the hottie and which one is the fat chick that barged into the frame.
X man
[QUOTE=The Lucky Guy]
I have seen a lot of pictures taken inside of the bars in AC, is it OK to take pictures inside the bars in the Philippines? In Thailand there are signs everywhere to not use a camera, is Phil different?
?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Generally, you can't take pics in the bars. Several exceptions...
1) Some places put on a special show -- DollHouse for example. Then they allow pics.
2) Perimeter bars seem to be more relaxed. They might allow it, or at least turn a blind eye. It might depend on which manager/owner is there, or how "nice" you are perceived to be.
Buy a girl a drink. Ask her if you can take her picture. If she says yes, go for it. A manager might come up and ask you to stop. Apologize and put your camera away.
Don't pull out your camera and start taking pics of girls on stage without their permission. You might get away with it once or twice, but eventually you'll have a girl or two go ballistic on you.
If you want stage pics, follow my advice above about buying a drink. Take her pic when she's on stage. Encourage other dancers to enter the frame. Later show them the pcitures. Offer to send the pictures to their email accounts -- and since they are writing down their email address, they may as well write down their phone number too.
If the management has let you get this far, you have pics, email addresses and phone numbers. Make sure you write down names, bar name, date. Otherwise you'll end up with a notebook full of contact info and not be able to remember which one is the hottie and which one is the fat chick that barged into the frame.
X man[/QUOTE]
One sure way of being able to take pics is to go up on stage with the girls.. I went to a smaller bar and went up to the stage after tipping around with the dancers.. just a few pesos each... we snapped away with me on the stage along with all the girls..
it was fun, but probably not your idea of the ideal picture with me on the stage! hahaha.
-Jett
I was at Dollhouse for a show in May and took 2 pics before a manager told me politely that is not allowed during the show. I guess its a hit or miss on which manager tells you to put it away. In Lolipop the gir; s LOVE the picture taking but then again they know me well in there. Here is the 2 pics from Dollhouse I took.
Having just spent two weeks in Pattaya, and as a regular visitor to PI, permit me to weigh in on this.
I believe you get the illusion in Pattaya the gals are better looking becasue of the sheer number of girls. Otherwise, per capita, the ratio appears about the same to me. Because A/C is tiny, compared to Pattaya, sometimes you need to go on safari for the lookers.
I also think the girls in Thailand are a bit more mercenary. However, as a general matter, on initial contact they are less inhibited and perform better than PI gals.
[QUOTE=Key Master]It's kind of true in my eyes. Pattaya is huge compared to AC. I think of AC as a much smaller version of Pattaya. There are more hotter women in the agogo's of Pattaya easily. There are some pretty hot women in AC but spread out and probably harder to find and barfine. But at the same time there are a lot of girl next door types, not real hot but attractive and nice personalities. I have more fun with the women in PI because they are more relaxed and can communicate. I find most of the women in Thailand's P4P are a little more mercenary. I think you should just give it a try. If you don't like it, which is possible, you can cut your trip short and go somewhere else possibly. My first time there I didn't like it, but I've liked it more and more as I've gone.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you had fun, but...
Go to a disco. Pay a bar fine and take her to the disco with you. No one wants to see you on a stage. Get a life!
Rare, but some bars do have a dance floor. Find those places. Better yet, go back 20 years to the strip in Olongapo where the bars were combination dance floor and go go. Some even had live bands. Those were the days. Thank gd few had video cameras back then. Not sure I want to see a younger and drunken X Man going "down, down, down..." to the beat of B52 Rock Lobster. Of course thinking about that one woman.....some vintage video might not be so bad....
I wonder why I never took pics in the bars in those days. I have a picture of a lass showing her crack on the beach at Subic and another one showing tit on that island in the bay, but I never took a picture in one of the bars.
X
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]One sure way of being able to take pics is to go up on stage with the girls.. I went to a smaller bar and went up to the stage after tipping around with the dancers.. just a few pesos each... we snapped away with me on the stage along with all the girls..
it was fun, but probably not your idea of the ideal picture with me on the stage! hahaha.
-Jett[/QUOTE]
This place is Las vegas next to stingers! the girl in first pic far left is Geraldine. Bf is P1500 she is a model. normal gogo girls are P1200.
I find the dollshouse a real rip off. i refuse to go there now! P3000 for top girl!
fuck that!
As for AC verses Pattaya!
I agree that AC tends to have taller and slimmer girls than Pattaya!
I would think that Thailand has enjoyed better times longer than PI and is creeping towards the fat yankie culture!
As for GFE experience I would suggest that AC has the edge. But i think i need to keep abreast of the situation some more!
I will be heading back to AC in November Second weekish (No dates set yet). would like to meet up with others as wingman!
[QUOTE=The Lucky Guy]Hi!
I have seen the body paint exhibition from Mattrick, Ekspat and Xman posted in May 2007! Great bodies! Great shots!
A question: as I understand the pictures are taken in Dollhouse, Angeles City, are the girls in body paint available for the lower fee 1200P or the higher 3000P?
I haven't been to AC yet but hope to be there in about a month from now. I like the tall and skinny type of girls like these ones:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70239[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70114[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70243[/url]
How common are tall and slim girls like that compared to the a bit more chubby ones? Are prices and availability about the same or is it the tall and slim that are taken early in the evening? Is there any place that has more of that body type than others? Some reports suggest that the girls on the Fields are a bit more classy, does that equal my preference; "Tall and Slim"?
Would be greatful for all answers!
(Posted this first in the photo section. But I guess this is a more appropriate board for questions.)[/QUOTE]
Have you tried Swiss Chalet, it has everything you want and a good air-con restaurant as well (i wish it was non-smoking tho) It is a good central location, only down side they are building another 10 storey hotel next door so could be noisey! P1500 PN.
[url]www.swisschaletph.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Tokyohomeboy]I'm coming to AC for the first time and tried to stay at Pacific Breeze but it's full. Read about ABC on the forum; seems nice but pricey. Anyone have recommendations for a nice hotel along the same lines?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcand4]I was at Dollhouse for a show in May and took 2 pics before a manager told me politely that is not allowed during the show.[/QUOTE]
Funny, I went yesterday to DH and took around 2 GB on pics and videos.
Several other guys with DSLR shooting like if there's no tomorrow,
and countless guys taking pics with their phones and small digi-cams.
And the girls very keen to make photos.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Funny, I went yesterday to DH and took around 2 GB on pics and videos.
Several other guys with DSLR shooting like if there's no tomorrow,
and countless guys taking pics with their phones and small digi-cams.
And the girls very keen to make photos.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
hi,
its because it was wednesday nyt...they have fashion show and evrybody is alowed to take pics of them....
BTW half of the spotdancer I barfined, hope some body will f..ck mona lisa and the othe rnice cherry gurl, cause I don tliek to spend 5o k for getn her cherry...but some guys pay for that.....my regards to those who paying :) (cause then I can screw them for small money :D without any trouble )
So please do that BEFORE christmas, thats when I fly back to the Pines :D
Happy hunting
Blink
Hey Blink - good idea to make sure that people don't overpay.
Now you won't do that when you get there will you?
Being serious, I thought that the going price for a cherry was P40k. Has it gone up?
I am going there Saturday, so inquiring minds need to know so as not to unduly inflate things for others.
Regards,
Rubbery.
Two days to wheels up. YeeeeeHaaaaaaaa.
You need to make reservations well in advance. I love those mirror rooms. I posted some pictures of this place way back in May. I'm pretty sure I posted them in the AC section rather than the photo section.
X Man
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Have you tried Swiss Chalet, it has everything you want and a good air-con restaurant as well (i wish it was non-smoking tho) It is a good central location, only down side they are building another 10 storey hotel next door so could be noisey! P1500 PN.
[url]www.swisschaletph.com[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Rare, but some bars do have a dance floor.
X[/QUOTE]Which bars have a dance floor? The only one I've danced at is Bedrock.
Girls love guys who dance. And I prefer going out with good dancers because they have more energy, and there's just something about that hard and toned body underneath you that feels so much better than a girl who just sits on her ass all nite. Heck I'll even dance with the mamasan but I don't want to be the only one out there making a fool of myself.
QH
Well I got a text from one of my "good friends" from Champayne Bar. I guess they have tempararily closed Champayne Bar due to something with the electricity there. So from what I found out is that they have all moved over to brown Sugar for now. So if anyone has any favorite girl from Champayne go see her at Brown Sugar. Just stay away from my girl! Ha ha!
[QUOTE=X Man]I'm glad you had fun, but...
Go to a disco. Pay a bar fine and take her to the disco with you. No one wants to see you on a stage. Get a life!
Rare, but some bars do have a dance floor. Find those places. Better yet, go back 20 years to the strip in Olongapo where the bars were combination dance floor and go go. Some even had live bands. Those were the days. Thank gd few had video cameras back then. Not sure I want to see a younger and drunken X Man going "down, down, down..." to the beat of B52 Rock Lobster. Of course thinking about that one woman.....some vintage video might not be so bad....
I wonder why I never took pics in the bars in those days. I have a picture of a lass showing her crack on the beach at Subic and another one showing tit on that island in the bay, but I never took a picture in one of the bars.
X[/QUOTE]
Wow, just trying to inject a little humor. I think your age has made you quite grumpy. But I guess the guy with 800+ posts telling me to get a life is quite humorous too.
:)
-jett
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]Which bars have a dance floor? The only one I've danced at is Bedrock.
Girls love guys who dance. And I prefer going out with good dancers because they have more energy, and there's just something about that hard and toned body underneath you that feels so much better than a girl who just sits on her ass all nite. Heck I'll even dance with the mamasan but I don't want to be the only one out there making a fool of myself.[/QUOTE]
Hello QH,
I've had great fun dancing up a storm at several bars particularly at Cambodia. They have an upper level stage that is partially obscured so you can get down and dirty with the dancers. The mamasans there also like to dance which is a great way get VIP treatment. Have you ever tried Skytrax Disco?
Heard Champayne bar has closed due to some electrical problem and girls are over at Brown Sugar. Just for everyone to know.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure the ladies think it's humorous when YOU get on stage -- I don't.
The only exception was when a young Ozzie couple got on stage at Silver Dollar and did some dirty dancing. That was a good show.
Yea, 800 posts. I've met two ISG guys, both with over 1000 posts, and they have very intersting lives.
Maybe it's hard for you to comprehend 800 posts as you slowly do your two-finger typing. I think you can buy typing software these days. It might help you. I worked my way thru college as a typist.
Or maybe you have to spend all your time kowtowing to your significant other and barely have time to visit ISG, much less enjoying PI live -- the beach, beer and debauchery of the Philippines. Anyway, hope you are enjoying your vicarious andventure to the Philippines.
X Man (grumpy old man)
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Wow, just trying to inject a little humor. I think your age has made you quite grumpy. But I guess the guy with 800+ posts telling me to get a life is quite humorous too.
:)
-jett[/QUOTE]
Yessss, 6 days in AC now and 14 cums so far.
With pleasant girls from Stinger, Pasha, Angels and Emotions.
Life can be great......... And another 2 days to go!
Less than 300 posts and with interesting life too.
Sincerely yours! :D
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello QH,
I've had great fun dancing up a storm at several bars particularly at Cambodia. They have an upper level stage that is partially obscured so you can get down and dirty with the dancers. The mamasans there also like to dance which is a great way get VIP treatment. Have you ever tried Skytrax Disco?[/QUOTE]
hi,
try topclass disco, besides bunny ranch, only foreigners alowed to go in there, cause they like to make money not like in other local disco sellin coke for 20p (ahahaha).
I went skytrax 12 years ago, if I would go there today, then only with my colt45 (not the beer :D)
happy days
Blink
[QUOTE=Jettsetter]Wow, just trying to inject a little humor. I think your age has made you quite grumpy. But I guess the guy with 800+ posts telling me to get a life is quite humorous too.
:)
-jett[/QUOTE]
hi,
dont be so harsh to X men, I think he is a nice guy who will warm up after some beers, rum and coke and with a cute filipina sitting on his lap :D
I havent met him yet, cause I think he will allways tell the wettress seperate bills :D
Happy days
Blink
LOL. Good post Ekspat. I have 28 to go and a wake up. Can't wait to see my favorite dusty little town again.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yessss, 6 days in AC now and 14 cums so far.
With pleasant girls from Stinger, Pasha, Angels and Emotions.
Life can be great......... And another 2 days to go!
Less than 300 posts and with interesting life too.
Sincerely yours! :D
Cheers![/QUOTE]
First day back in AC since May, and boy, things are a-changin'. Couple of things off the bat:
Santos Street - VERY different. Buildings torn down, some new Irish bar opening on the other side of the street; it's like a new world. There's even a regular (albeit small) gogo bar now open on the old Row. I forgot the name, but it was using drink coozies from the old "Honkytonk." Only opened for 5 days (so said the youngest mamasan I've ever seen), and only 9 girls total. The girls I talked to (including the one I eventually barfined - she was nice) said that there were almost no customers, due to it being a regular gogo (complete with the stupid ping-pong ball gag) quite a ways down Santos St. My girl even told me that after 3 days, she was planning on quitting and moving to another bar the next day. All I can say is, good luck to the owners. P235 for 2 beers and one LD, then P1250 for the BF. More expensive than Blow Row, but cheaper (slightly) than the main drag. Meh.
Woodbell Restaurant - New restaurant on the side street of Fields with Mister Frosty on the corner. Opened on Sept. 4. Mostly Filipino food, but they have a few Western selections that aren't bad at all. I had fried pork medallions in gravy, rice, and vegetables for P80. Their waitresses are also very friendly. If you want a decent Western meal for a cheaper price than Mo's, Margarita, or Sub Delicious on the strip, I'd give this place a try at least once. I mean, it's already 5 hours after the meal, and I'm still not sick, so their record is already better than a few of my experiences at Mo's and Margarita.
New buildings going up all over the place - Golden Nile (monstrous eyesore that it is) is almost done, and there's a new building going up right next to Carousel. Carousel's upstairs apartelle (Mirage) is offering a summer special of 1200P a night, but I haven't checked it out yet. I think I will, because I'm paying 1600 at the moment.
So anyway, things are changing, and I need to get out of this internet cafe chair and go check it out!
As always, I'm here for a week (until Sept. 20), so if you're in or around AC and want to meet up, shoot me a PM.
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Ekspat, glad to hear you have a life.
But, if you're going to brag like a high school boy, how old are you? And since Lance A, and Barry B get asked the question, are you using any performance enhancing drugs.
And if the answer is yes, can you tell me where I can get some of that stuff....
Just kidding, don't answer that question on the board. It was a rhetorical question Although some pharmacys bend the rules, it's a bit more risky for foreign owned bars. Just ask around.
Got a hotel review?
X Man
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yessss, 6 days in AC now and 14 cums so far.
With pleasant girls from Stinger, Pasha, Angels and Emotions.
Life can be great......... And another 2 days to go!
Less than 300 posts and with interesting life too.
Sincerely yours! :D
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]But, if you're going to brag like a high school boy, how old are you? And since Lance A, and Barry B get asked the question, are you using any performance enhancing drugs. [/QUOTE]
Can answer, no problem, who cares?
Hehe, no, me not high school boy, those times are long gone, I'm 45y/o.
Anyway, I don't use Vitamin-C or Vitamin-V.
Little ekspat still works fine. SMB is my drug, otherwise I come too fast.
Once I bought those Cialis in AC in the street, 100ps for 4 pills.
Tried a little bit at one night, but don't know whether it worked or placebo effect.
I think it worked somehow because suddenly during breakfast next morning in Margerita station,
I sat there with a huge erection while having coffee, whats unusual.
:D
Cheers!
I'm new to AC..
What are the best clubs?
Here is my criteria:
1. Most inexpensive barfine girls, yet still beautiful.
2. The girls have a good attitude.
3. The girls will stay the entire night in your room (for the barfine) and not try to take off.
I would like to hear from the AC vets!
Thank you very much!
LSP
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yessss, 6 days in AC now and 14 cums so far.
[/QUOTE]
Wow, Ekspat, your daily ratio is getting better and better! I am most impressed! Maybe also a result of your 'glatt kosher' food? :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]Which bars have a dance floor? QH[/QUOTE]Blue Nile, in 3rd floor. Difficult to find, just ask there. Also 200 meters down Fields avenue "normal" discos like SkyTrax and just beside there Class Room (or something similar).
By the way, the threesome Blue Nile, Nero and Bedrock swing these days. Just beside each other with open doors beween, quite good selection of girls, very few other guys if you go there before 9pm. Try 2nd floor Blue Nile and get a good overview of the girls dancing in 2nd floor. From here you enter a door to 3rd floor where you can dance as well.
Yes, as a comment to an previous question, some girls do not do white man - due to size. Many in Blue Nile. But I got one really nice there, was her first white. I post some pictures in photo section soon, hopefully within monday, maybe more than one dreamgirl - let's see.
Dont' forget, you know you are in heaven when you se angel(e)s.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Yes, as a comment to an previous question, some girls do not do white man - due to size.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but many other comments available also.
I don't do Asians because they demand strange things in bedroom.
I don't do Indians because they are smelly.
I don't do Blacks because of the size.
I don't do French because they're Cheap Charlies.
I do whites only.
I do Japanese only.
Etc etc.
If you're long enough around, you'll hear everything.
Just go on and enjoy..........
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Maybe also a result of your 'glatt kosher' food? :)
[/QUOTE]
Most likely the 100% kosher food, but found also nice girls with good chemistry between us.
As you know I don't go for the often tourist-spoiled superstars with Nokia N95,
I prefer well performing talents out of the second row!
Better attitude. ;)
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yeah, but many other comments available also.
..If you're long enough around, you'll hear everything.
Just go on and enjoy..........Cheers![/QUOTE]
Well, the mamasan told me they did not do white due to size.
Agree with you, just enjoy and have fun! There are so many nice girls here.
You know you are in heaven when you se angel(e)s.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]... As you know I don't go for the often tourist-spoiled superstars with Nokia N95 ... I prefer well performing talents out of the second row!
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Totally agreed! In fact the second row IS the first row, isn't it!? BTW, how many additional cums during the past 48 hrs - just curiousity?! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
I am staying in AC - ABC to be exact. My mates all bailed out on me for this trip. Anyone want to start out the evening with a drink?
I'm just curious but has the Blue Nile turned into a Korean hangout? If so, the mamasan may have been sugarcoating the real reason why the girls won't go with whites/blacks/etc and that is Koreans absolutely hate for the girls they play with to be with any other foreigners. If the Koreans have staked out their claim on the Blue Nile then it will be hard to pull girls out of there.
Most of the red light districts in Korea are off limits to foreigners and I'm not talking about the US Army's off limits policy. The Koreans won't service ANY foreigners in many of the fun places. Not sure if its because of xenophobia, fear of disease, low self esteem because they generally have much smaller dicks or a combination of all the above but once Koreans stake their claim they don't want anyone else playing with their ho's. I heard a story about one of the glass house rooms in the 588 district of Seoul once had to swap out all of their girls because word got out that a couple of Japanese businessmen banged a couple of the staff and the Koreans wouldn't go there until they changed out the girls.
The irony is that most other developed cultures realize the need to practice safe sex and do so accordingly with prostitutes but Koreans despise using condoms under any circumstances so a girl who is being passed around between Koreans is likely to be a lot more susceptible to diseases and therefore "unclean" than if she were with non-Koreans. They are definitely a strange, illogical and paranoid lot.
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Well, the mamasan told me they did not do white due to size.
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Souja Lizard brings up a very interesting point on the Blue Nile. I have been in most clubs in Angeles and it just seems odd that "yes" alot of the girls are reluctant to go whith the caucasian guys. (can not speak for other races) but it seems they stay to the Koreans. Now let me add this interesting note. I have a several friends that work at Lolipop and Treasure Island and they too have said that the girls at Blue Nile seem to be stuck on themselves. Never really got into why they say that but just interesting note to add. It would be interesting to read others who have noted this.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I'm just curious but has the Blue Nile turned into a Korean hangout? If so, the mamasan may have been sugarcoating the real reason why the girls won't go with whites/blacks/etc and that is Koreans absolutely hate for the girls they play with to be with any other foreigners. If the Koreans have staked out their claim on the Blue Nile then it will be hard to pull girls out of there.
Most of the red light districts in Korea are off limits to foreigners and I'm not talking about the US Army's off limits policy. The Koreans won't service ANY foreigners in many of the fun places. Not sure if its because of xenophobia, fear of disease, low self esteem because they generally have much smaller dicks or a combination of all the above but once Koreans stake their claim they don't want anyone else playing with their ho's. I heard a story about one of the glass house rooms in the 588 district of Seoul once had to swap out all of their girls because word got out that a couple of Japanese businessmen banged a couple of the staff and the Koreans wouldn't go there until they changed out the girls.
The irony is that most other developed cultures realize the need to practice safe sex and do so accordingly with prostitutes but Koreans despise using condoms under any circumstances so a girl who is being passed around between Koreans is likely to be a lot more susceptible to diseases and therefore "unclean" than if she were with non-Koreans. They are definitely a strange, illogical and paranoid lot.[/QUOTE]To Soju,
I think the whole angeles city is become a korean mongering paradise , cheap flight from korea to clark with strong enconomy in korea and the crack down in seoul brothol many korean is going to PI and other part of asia for cheap fun .
Fast eddie 48
AC coming up.
5 days and counting.
Saw this bit of a report back in May - Does anyone know the bar that this guy is talking about ?
'Got a BBBJ in the back of one of the older clubs (closer to Main Gate, has panty less Sundays) a club for 10 bucks which was pretty cool just in novelty factor alone'.
The Pantyless Sundays sounds great! Are there other bars that do this?
Does anyone know of any pool parties on next weekend - Saturday 22nd ?
What Perimeter bars are good to hang out in the afternoons where BBBJ's can be had? The idea of having samples is fun too?
Thanx in advance,
Core
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Souja Lizard brings up a very interesting point on the Blue Nile. I have been in most clubs in Angeles and it just seems odd that "yes" alot of the girls are reluctant to go whith the caucasian guys. (can not speak for other races) but it seems they stay to the Koreans. Now let me add this interesting note. I have a several friends that work at Lolipop and Treasure Island and they too have said that the girls at Blue Nile seem to be stuck on themselves. Never really got into why they say that but just interesting note to add. It would be interesting to read others who have noted this.[/QUOTE]I have th answer to this question guys! I lived in S. Korea for 2 years!
There are many red light districts in Korea.. None of the girls are allowed to cater to foreigners! (With the exception of Itaewon) Which is where the foreigners live.. If she dose sleep with a foreigner she will be ostrisized and none of the Korean men will do business with her again!
Apparently they are exporting these methods to Angeles City!
Which is pathetic, because it is a city built by America trade!
I guareente you behind the b.s. the girls are telling you.. They are being told by Korean businessmen.. (service a foreigner and lose all Korean business)
I know how they work! Everything is behind the back! And they will smile to your face!
Really you guys should not tolerate it! The Philippines is a country liberated by Americans! Don't let them import their prejudice heavy handed trade practices to AC!
I find this interesting because a number of PI girls I have known (biblically) have told me they do not like Koreans - they find them, as a general matter, obnoxious and "unclean."
Will be in the PI in a few months, interested in viewing this first hand.
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I'm just curious but has the Blue Nile turned into a Korean hangout? If so, the mamasan may have been sugarcoating the real reason why the girls won't go with whites/blacks/etc and that is Koreans absolutely hate for the girls they play with to be with any other foreigners. If the Koreans have staked out their claim on the Blue Nile then it will be hard to pull girls out of there.
Most of the red light districts in Korea are off limits to foreigners and I'm not talking about the US Army's off limits policy. The Koreans won't service ANY foreigners in many of the fun places. Not sure if its because of xenophobia, fear of disease, low self esteem because they generally have much smaller dicks or a combination of all the above but once Koreans stake their claim they don't want anyone else playing with their ho's. I heard a story about one of the glass house rooms in the 588 district of Seoul once had to swap out all of their girls because word got out that a couple of Japanese businessmen banged a couple of the staff and the Koreans wouldn't go there until they changed out the girls.
The irony is that most other developed cultures realize the need to practice safe sex and do so accordingly with prostitutes but Koreans despise using condoms under any circumstances so a girl who is being passed around between Koreans is likely to be a lot more susceptible to diseases and therefore "unclean" than if she were with non-Koreans. They are definitely a strange, illogical and paranoid lot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billpsu]... they find them (Koreans), as a general matter, obnoxious and "unclean" ...[/QUOTE]I cannot judge if Koreans are 'obnoxious' and 'unclean' (well, actually I would rather doubt it), but it is hard to believe that this really matters! As long as the tip is generous (and the dick is not all too large :) ) everybody is welcomed. It's their job and money talks! Or am I wrong, gentlemen?
Cheers,
Hesekiels
Hmmm. Well I am making my time every 3 month trip this November. Will have to go to Blue Nile and try again. Further report will be warented. So we will have to do some experimenting. Gee why do I get to be the guinea pig in all this (ha ha) Ok. Ok. I see I am being forced to walk over to the Blue Nile and try and bf some cute pinoy. Why do you all put the responsibility all on me (ha ha). Well let me know how you others do before November 6.
Hi all,
I'm a young guy making my first trip to Angeles this weekend. I'll be staying at the Swiss Chalet. If anyone wants to go for a drink and show me around, just post here and we can work out a meeting time/place.
Looking forward to meeting some of you!
NN
Ok, my body clock is still all messed up. Can't seem to stay awake during peak hours so have been going out either early morning (like 4am) or late afternoon (say 4pm).
Went to Dollhouse yesterday, having fun, bought about 7 girls 2 LD each. We are all joking, having fun, they are all flirting with me, trying to get me to BF them. I thought I clicked with one. She called herself my "lawyer and kept the rest of them in line. She was not the prettiest or the best body but I liked her attitude so I BF her. She seems really excited in the club, playing the part. Great! We leave, go next store to Kokomo's for a bite. As soon as we order food, she starts texting friends. No problem. However, when she keeps texting rather than talking with me, I tell her joking, "I think I am getting jealous of whoever that is on the other end of that text! " That's when she tells me it's another boyfriend she had earlier this week! WTF! I ignore this.
When we get back to the room, again, she is totally into the text and not what's going on in the room. I tell her politely that this isn't going to work and give her 7 pesos for the Jeepne. I went back to DH and got my barfine back. There were 6 other girls for me to pick from. If she wasn't into me, I wish she would have steered towards one of the others who were!
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I cannot judge if Koreans are 'obnoxious' and 'unclean' (well, actually I would rather doubt it), but it is hard to believe that this really matters! As long as the tip is generous (and the dick is not all too large :) ) everybody is welcomed. It's their job and money talks! Or am I wrong, gentlemen?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]To Hesekiels,
I was told by girl in Manila and other part of asia they don't like korean because they are rude and they act crazy when they are drunk , they prefer japanese and farang better tipper and are gentleman.
Fast eddie 48
I've never met an unclean Korean, although their love of kimchee (fermented cabbage and spices inlcuding garlic) may give them a bit of an odor.
Obnoxious, hmmm. They do seem to be loud and sometimes aggressive. I guess that's what happens to the national character when too many wars are waged....Korea has the geographic misfortune of being situated in the middle of three large and sometimes militaristic countries.
X Man
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I cannot judge if Koreans are 'obnoxious' and 'unclean' (well, actually I would rather doubt it), but it is hard to believe that this really matters! As long as the tip is generous (and the dick is not all too large :) ) everybody is welcomed. It's their job and money talks! Or am I wrong, gentlemen?
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
"I'm a young guy making my first trip to Angeles this weekend. I'll be staying at the Swiss Chalet. If anyone wants to go for a drink and show me around, just post here and we can work out a meeting time/place.
Looking forward to meeting some of you!
NN"
I too will be making a debu this weekend. So North Neighbour why not link up. Just ask for the coconut man at the Pacific Breeze Hotel and they will organise communication. And/or leave your North Neighbour nickname where you are.
I want to go for a 45 minute flight ovet the volcano on Sunday 22. They can take 4 people for $120. So if anyone wants to go for this trip please contact as above.
I live here in Korea. Not in Seoul. Which seems to be a good place to live. Next year. But, yes it is not much fun to live here. Insecure. Aggressive people. And the guys always check out my wang in the bath houses. So yeah these guys aren't blessed with tower-like poles.
I don't monger here.
AC on Friday night.. Can't seem to find voodoo on the AC map.
Core
[QUOTE=North Neighbour]Hi all,
I'm a young guy making my first trip to Angeles this weekend. I'll be staying at the Swiss Chalet. If anyone wants to go for a drink and show me around, just post here and we can work out a meeting time/place.
Looking forward to meeting some of you!
NN[/QUOTE]North Neighbour, I will also be in AC this weekend!
How can I ask for you at the Swiss Chalet?
LSP
[QUOTE=Josh Doe] ... bought about 7 girls 2 LD each ...
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JD:
Wow, not bad! One thing is crystal clear, you are definitely no Cheap Charlie, brother! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
LSP and Coremine,
Slight change in plans. I'll be staying at the Central Park Hotel, which is sandwiched between Orchid and the Swiss Chalet. I'll be arriving Friday evening - estimate maybe between 8:00-9:00pm. Will you guys be out mongering already at that time or will it still be good to meet up at one of our hotels?
I will instruct the staff to contact me if anyone asks for Mr. Canada. :)
(Why not? It's no worse than the coconut man...)
Let me know what you guys want to do!
Also - does anyone know a good barber in Angeles?
Cheers,
NN
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I'm just curious but has the Blue Nile turned into a Korean hangout? If so, the mamasan may have been sugarcoating the real reason why the girls won't go with whites/blacks/etc and that is Koreans absolutely hate for the girls they play with to be with any other foreigners. If the Koreans have staked out their claim on the Blue Nile then it will be hard to pull girls out of there.[/QUOTE]I'm making my Angeles debut from Sep 30 - Oct 6, so I'll definitely have to check this out. I'll pass along a yea, nay, or inconclusive.
I'd be happy to meet any members in town that week.
[QUOTE=Coremine]Can't seem to find voodoo on the AC map.
Core[/QUOTE]
Voodoo bar is inside Kokomo's.
On the left side.
Usually I dont have problems barfining a gal.
Okay, next time will try to bf a girl from Blue Nile.
Will report then.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Josh Doe]Ok, my body clock is still all messed up. Can't seem to stay awake during peak hours so have been going out either early morning (like 4am) or late afternoon (say 4pm).
Went to Dollhouse yesterday, having fun, bought about 7 girls 2 LD each. We are all joking, having fun, they are all flirting with me, trying to get me to BF them. I thought I clicked with one. She called herself my "lawyer and kept the rest of them in line. She was not the prettiest or the best body but I liked her attitude so I BF her. She seems really excited in the club, playing the part. Great! We leave, go next store to Kokomo's for a bite. As soon as we order food, she starts texting friends. No problem. However, when she keeps texting rather than talking with me, I tell her joking, "I think I am getting jealous of whoever that is on the other end of that text! " That's when she tells me it's another boyfriend she had earlier this week! WTF! I ignore this.
When we get back to the room, again, she is totally into the text and not what's going on in the room. I tell her politely that this isn't going to work and give her 7 pesos for the Jeepne. I went back to DH and got my barfine back. There were 6 other girls for me to pick from. If she wasn't into me, I wish she would have steered towards one of the others who were![/QUOTE]
Good stuff. I congratulate you on not letting her get away with that crap. It will happen on occasion that they are good enough actresses to make you think they are really into you and stuff. Usually there are telltale signs that something isn't right. The one time I ignored the signs it came back to haunt. If something tells me something is not right, I usually can't ignore it and don't bother bar fining no matter how much I want it. It's not worth the aggravation of knowing your gut warned you even if you had no clue what it was about.