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I'm weighing taking Caribe Tours vs. Taxi from SDQ to Sosua. Does anyone know costs and travel time for each ? Any preferences?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Lotech]I'm weighing taking Caribe Tours vs. Taxi from SDQ to Sosua. Does anyone know costs and travel time for each ? Any preferences?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Do not travel by taxi. It will cost you a lot of money. My guess is between $100 to $150 USD and the cab driver will demand a big tip from you.
Take the bus. The bus has A/C, bathroom, and a TV. The seats are large and comfortable. And chances are, there will be a girl who will hit on you. ;)
I took the bus from Santo Domingo to Santiago with the Metro bus. There was a girl who smiled at me. I smiled at her. :)
How long is the trip from SD to Sosua via Caribe Tours?
[QUOTE=New World Order]Do not travel by taxi. It will cost you a lot of money. My guess is between $100 to $150 USD and the cab driver will demand a big tip from you.
Take the bus. The bus has A/C, bathroom, and a TV. The seats are large and comfortable. And chances are, there will be a girl who will hit on you. ;)
I took the bus from Santo Domingo to Santiago with the Metro bus. There was a girl who smiled at me. I smiled at her. :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lotech]How long is the trip from SD to Sosua via Caribe Tours?[/QUOTE]
Take the bus...its 4.5 hours...and lots of cute chicas ride it. You might find a few chicas venturing to Sosua for a brief working stint, etc...see the country, blah blah blah...
[QUOTE=Monger 3]Take the bus...its 4.5 hours...and lots of cute chicas ride it. You might find a few chicas venturing to Sosua for a brief working stint, etc...see the country, blah blah blah...[/QUOTE]
^^^
This is why everyone should take the bus. The bus is always full of surprises!!! lol :)
I am returning to Sosua late Jan. , and am staying for 2 weeks. The first week I am taking some dive courses through euro h2o, staying at villa flor
Second week will be at europa, doing what everyone else is doing.
Questions:
Anyone know details about villa flor or euro h2o?
Other than passions, any other massage parlor suggestions?
I have stayed at rocky's before, and marco was very helpful in arranging chicas. Is diego prone to helping make arrangements also?
The girls are coming back from vacation and are starting to flock the streets and discos. Life is real good in D.R.!
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Mister]The girls are coming back from vacation and are starting to flock the streets and discos. Life is real good in D.R.!
MISTER NYC :D [/QUOTE]
WOO HOO!!! So the buffet is back on the menu!!! :D
[QUOTE=Mister]The girls are coming back from vacation and are starting to flock the streets and discos. Life is real good in D.R.!
MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]
I can attest to new talent flooding the clubs and bars again. I am seeing plenty of new faces. My last trip was a dissapointment because much of the talent was the same...I saw many few faces and booties this time around...great time.
How much is the bus ride from Santo Domingo to Sosua?
And how long will it take.
[QUOTE=Bosco]How much is the bus ride from Santo Domingo to Sosua?
And how long will it take.[/QUOTE]
Well, I believe it is 280 pesos one way. You actually get off in Los Charamicos and then hop on a moto concho for a quick 5 minute ride to Sosua for another 20 pesos. The ride from the capital to sosua is nearly 5 hours.
See you around...still alive and well here in my second home.
MISTER NYC :D
Is there a bus from Santo Domingo to Caberete? Same travel quesiton below.
Is Caberete an alternative place for Sosua?
Thanks!
Strad
[QUOTE=Strad]Is there a bus from Santo Domingo to Caberete? Same travel quesiton below.
Is Caberete an alternative place for Sosua?
Thanks!
Strad[/QUOTE]
The bus from SD to Sosua actually continues on to Cabarete and other plaecs I believe...otherwise, get off in Sosua and cab it to Cabarete...its about another 20 minutes away...a great beach and chill scene there...nicer than Sosua, but not as much readily available action...
Hi all.
This is my first report of first mongering in Sosua, DR, so first of all I want to thank all of you guys posting great reports. It helped me a lot!
I stayed in Hotel Europa guest house (30 dollars) for a week from Jan 2nd, and overall had a good time. Based on the info found in here, I hit the town and the beach at day time and mainly went to disco classico at night.
The average price that I paid after some negotiation was 1000 for short time and 1500~2000 for all night. Am I overpaying? But that's all I could get using my limited Spanish.
A couple of Chicas didn't have ID, so I had to pay tip to the security (about 200 pesos). I think if I stayed at the Hotel room instead of guest room I could not bring chicas without ID since we have to go through the reception.
I tried 8 girls over my stay. In my opinion, although this is a common sense, if I treated a chica nice buying her a couple of drinks, dancing with her and trying some conversation to get to know each other, then I could expect the chica to behave very nice in return. On the other hand, when I just jumped a chica to have a session without time for communication, then she behaved accordingly: gave me ok short bj and sex without passion.
I met this beautiful chica who called herself "Ani" in disco classico. She is about less than 5 feet and has a nice set of tits, has 9 brothers and sisters, and lives in Puerto Plata according to her. I guess she also has a baby. She looks like the same girl in the photo of Ana posted by ******* back in 2003(Ana of Jazz collection) although now she is a littel fat probably due to after her pregnancy. I had a short session with her at 5 am. It was ok session but her beauty made up for it.
Do anybody know about this chica?
[QUOTE=Chute]Hotel Europa guest house (30 dollars) [/QUOTE]If you can post that hotel's website / contact / location, that will be very helpful, thanks a lot!
Strad
Check out [url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html[/url]
You will correspond with the owner, whose name is Diego. He's very helpful and reliable.
Europa is very conveniently located, and quite supportive of folks who want to import nighttime entertainment.
I've never stayed in the apartments (located across Calle Pablo Picasso), but the hotel rooms are clean and fine.
You can discuss all options with Diego.
I'm attaching a photo of the Europa, which is on the corner of Calle Pedro Clisante and Calle Pablo Picasso.
Staying in the hotel, a girl must show her ID at the desk, but there has never been any hassle or delay in getting her in. I think their check is primarily for your safety and protection.
From reading the forum, it appears that the apartments across the street don't require any type of check-in, but I've never stayed there.
Good luck.
Where are M&M, Passions & Sylvia's (is it still open?) located? In relation to the Europa. How does it work at Passions? Do I pick my masseuse? What do I get and pricing? I'll be in Sosua Feb. 3 - 10. Anyone there, let's hook up. Send me a PM.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Lotech]Where are M&M, Passions & Sylvia's (is it still open?) located? In relation to the Europa. How does it work at Passions? Do I pick my masseuse? What do I get and pricing? I'll be in Sosua Feb. 3 - 10. Anyone there, let's hook up. Send me a PM.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Passions is past the Europa, away from the beach, on the other side of the street, a couple of blocks up from the hotel. Passions has a full bar with about a 5-6 chicas working. If nothing to your liking just drink. Massages cost 900 pesos for a happy ending tug. Actual massage is just o.k.
M&M is near Banco Popular near the other end of town. Its is a small retail shop location. M&M massage on window of door. No happy ending but great massage.
Don't know Sylvia's
I’ve been thinking about the directions I gave you last night, and I think I’m wrong on one of them. The “mall” where M&M is located, may not be where I told you. I was only there once (when I found it was only a massage, and I didn’t go back). I think it might be on the first street, the one that continues from La Roca. Anyway, don’t be bashful if you have to ask for directions. The locals all know that gringos are there to get laid. Their lifestyle is based on that. Nobody is going to be shocked.
Give me your EMail address, and I won't have to keep the replies so short. There's more to tell.
Jim
What happened to the "Route 66" bar, that I was told had replaced Shark Bar on the beach?
[QUOTE=Silver Shadow]What happened to the "Route 66" bar, that I was told had replaced Shark Bar on the beach?[/QUOTE]There is a discussion of the subject here: [url]http://www.****************showthread.php?t=46396[/url]
Hmm... for some reason I can't post the URL here, in spite of its being a general info DR message board and not a competitor of ISG. So, go to DR1 and do a search for "shark". It will turn up on the first page under the title The New "New York Shark Bar".
BTW: The www. and .com are implied.
First of all, let me thank all of the members that came before me. I had so much knowledge going into Sosua. I saved a lot of time and money. I was solo on my trip, so I didn't know what to expect. First day stayed at the Palace. What a big mistake. Listen, to each his own but the Palace was not for me. I was charged $45 a night for a 2 bed room even though it was just me. Studios and 1 bed rooms were available in the hotel. Look I'm all about saving money but this hotel was just ridiculous. The lights in the ceiling were broken so they could not be changed. I had the room on the other side of the bar. My TV's volume had to compete with the tv from the night watchman all night long. There were no towels and the smell of roach spray filled the air. The battalion of ants never gave up trying to get into the small hole in the bathroom. To the credit of the palace I did see some better room up stairs. I didn't know why they didn't give me one of those. I wasn't going to let any of this stop me from having a good time.
I later made my way to Europa. Unfortunately they were booked all weekend. So I left and went to another hotel where the chicas behind the bar were so outstanding that some guys I met spent most of their time just trying to get at the bartenders. More on that later. Later that night I went to Classico and Club X across the street. In Classico there were so many hot chicas to choose from. Since I like all size and shades, the hardest part was just choosing one. I don't speak any spanish so trying to find a hot girl to connect with was difficult. I finally settled for a slim light skin chica that reminded me of one of my panamanian girlfriends from my army days. She had so much energy. While I was sitting at the bar she keep giving me lap dances. Then she would take my hand and put it up her mini skirt so I could play with her kitty. This chica just would not stop. She was putting on a show. Since she had my soldier at attention. I knew it was time to go.
Back at the Palace, we jump over the half dead pile of ants to enter the shower. Moments later my chica had me in the bed for some great BBBJ action. 10 minutes in she turn and asked me for a condom. I nearly lost my mind since I was not prepared. I figure since these chicas do this for a living, they would have the tools of the trade. Boy was I wrong. Of course this crazy chica tried to ride me with out a comdom but I wasn't having that. She finished with a crazy BBJTCIM. Before kicking her out she told me that she would meet me at Sosua Plaza at 4pm and would fuck me then.
Day 2. I was awakend by the TV coming from the bar since I slept on the couch. I got showered, got dressed and said good bye to the battalion of half dead ants still fighting their way into the bathroom. I changed hotels and stayed at Club Residendcial. This Hotel was the nicest place on Calle Pedro Clisante, but it also cost the most. Good security. I think most of the guest were older Europeans who didn't want a bunch of chicas walking around their lobby. The hotel was girl friendly and upon check in Beatrice told me that there would be no problem to bring a guest back. So back to the streets.
I went back to the hotel with the chicas behind the bar. The one who I'll call Lilly was one of the Islands best (IMHO). Lilly spoke broken english but better than most. Because of this Lilly had more game than Parker Brothers. While at the bar I met "steve" and his friends. Steve told me that this was his 11th trip to DR and Lilly was his girl. He then told me that he sends her things and a little money from the States now and then. Lilly wasn't the only girl that steve was seeing but she was the main one. When steve left Lilly was friendly and talkattive so I knew that what he said must be true. But then I noticed another guy come to the bar. I met "Joe" who said that he was working on trying to fuck Lilly. While Joe was around Lilly wouldn't give me the time of day. So I left.
It rained on and off all day. I was approached by this old nasty chica with a nice young chica. The old chica did the translating and offered me the young light brown skin chica with perky tits for 1,000DR. She was about a 7/10. So back to the hotel. This chica act like she didn't know the routine about getting in the shower first, but I set her straight. Started off with the best BBBJ of the trip. I could tell that she really enjoy doing me. By now I had purchased my own condoms so there was no problem. I started off mish and she took it like a champ. This would have been a complete GFE but I was not kissing this one. Finished up doggy. Now my trip was off to a good start. I could see my chica wanted to go to sleep but I put her out knowing that better times lay ahead. So I cleaned myself up and was out in the street.
I saw lilly on the back off a moto concho. She waved. I flagged her down. They came back and she told me to meet her in half and hour. I didn't think she would return but we meet as planned. She said "Let's go to your hotel." I couldn't believe that it was going to be this easy to get one of the Islands finest. She then said "I have one little problem." Lilly was on the last day of her period but said that it would be no problem. I told her that I don't get down like that. So we said maybe tomorrow and went our sperate ways.
I killed time at Casino Chiquita. Met an unbelieve waitress that keep on giving me the eye (oh did I mention I'm not fat, old or ugly). She spoke no english. Long story short- I got the number. she gets off at 3am. But what was I going to do with a Phone number at 3am when I don't speak any spanish. Picture this. Me on the phone"Hola!" Chica:"Hola!" Me:"Hola!" Chica:"Hola!" You get the picture. So back to classico.
Once again I can't decide which flavor of chica to choose. I finally settle on this darkskin honey a little thicker than I normally take them but she had alot going for her. First she had tits so big I thought they were fake. She had a nice fat ass and we hit it off with her broken english. So its 3am and we our on the back of the moto choncho for 30 pesos on our way back to Club Resdencial. The sex was nice. BBBJ for starts. Then every posistion. I like the idea of never being rushed. The crazy thing is when I was done this chica went back to classico. It must have been 5am.
The next day I'm back at the hotel bar talking to steve and Joe again and lily is lookin at me like she can't stand me. After steve and Joe leave Lily asked me was I talking about her to them. I told her no. She told me that they are in love with her and that she didn't want to mess with me because they think she is a good girl and I would tell on her. I assured her that I would not tell on her. So we made plans for 12am when she got off work.
Lily showed up on time again. I couldn't believe it. In the room she let down her beautiful hair and got naked. Then she realized that she couldn't find her keys. She started to get dressed to leave. I couldn't believe it. I turned on my radar and help her find the keys to save the night. After the showered we had the best GFE experience. DFK BBJ. I suck on her brown nipples for a while. When I touch the kitty she was all nice and wet. Since lily spoke english, I talked sexy trash in her ear and it just drove her crazy. I think we both enjoyed the fact that we were fooling everyone on an Island were you don't have to hind the fact the your fucking. Best GFE awarded by JD Power and Associates. When we were all clean up I gave her 2,000DR. She was worth every pesos. Then she was gone. So it was time to hit the classico for one last time. My plane was leaving at 0900 and I knew I wasn't going to get any sleep.
Back at Classico. I saw all the guys I had met during my trip. I even saw Sean Paul the reggae/R&B singer. Just a few other guys recognized him. I then saw Lily and her boyfriend, who by the way was not Joe or Steve, but some other dominican-American guy, who was on my flight coming to the DR. I felt superior to them all since I knew I had just got finished fucking her not but an hour earlier. Lily wouldn't even look at me in the presence of her boyfriend. So I had to find something new. I saw lots but for some reason couldn't take my eyes off this tall lightskin chica who had on some low cut jeans. The jeans were so low cut, you could see the crack of her pretty tight ass. Some how this trashyness attracted me in a positive way. Her name was Ana. Ana had braids in her hair, very long legs and sexy lips. She was an 8.5/10. We hit it off and went back to Club Residencial. On the way back I saw Lily and her boyfriend. Lily looked at me and my chica on our way to do the deed and she didn't look happy. This was the first reaction she had given me all night. Up until then it was as if she didn't see me all night.
In the room ana and I talked as best we could. She told me she is from Puerto Plata and works at Crystals. Once again I chose a winner. Another GFE. This was great. She gave me BBBJ with passion. Then mish and doggy for the back shot. Ana and I slept for an hour before I had to get my taxi to the airport. Ana rode with me to the airport and wanted to wait for me to get on my plane but I told her to get back in the taxi and go home. She gave me her number and the taxi drove off.
What a trip. I didn't even maximize my time. Since I know that I can do better. I'll be back in Feb. Yes that's next month. What can I say. If you can afford it, Why not?
Cheers Crossfire!! How much was club residential a night?, what was the admission process for a chica?
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Cheers Crossfire!! How much was club residential a night?, what was the admission process for a chica?[/QUOTE]I paid 55 per night. I didn't have to pay anything for the chica to get in. During the day, the chica had to surrender her ID at reception. At night she had to give it to the night watchman. One of the guys I met that stayed at Europa visited my hotel. He told me how much better my room was. The bedroom was large with 2 queen size beds in it. Very quiet and very clean. For some reason none of the chicas that I was with, had ever been there before. This hotel is for the guy that wants to be close to the action, without staying in a dirty hotel or a hotel that has a lot chicas and mongers in the lobby. Definately for the monger with class. But you are going to pay for it. I'm considering stay there again.
Crossfire1, it sounds like you had a blast and you have a lot of energy!!! :)
I agree with you about the waitress at the casino who speaks no English. I once met a waitress from the Jaragua casino. She spoke no English.
But at least your girl got off work at 3am.
This girl I met got off work at 7am!!! lol
[QUOTE=Crossfire1] First day stayed at the Palace. What a big mistake. Listen, to each his own but the Palace was not for me. I was charged $45 a night for a 2 bed room even though it was just me.
[/QUOTE]
Crossfire1, you dont have to apologize for not liking the Palace. Many many years ago I too made the mistake of staying there. After 2 nights in that place I found other accomodations. The owner John is a nice guy put the place is well below my expected standard. I have never recommended that place to anyone. I dont know why so many mongers were raving about that place.
Club Residencial is much better than the Europa, a bit more expensive but it's worth paying the difference.
Club Residencial's only drawback is that it doesn't allow you to take more than 1 girl at once - a real inconvenience if you like 3-somes.
[QUOTE=Sylvester]Crossfire1, you dont have to apologize for not liking the Palace. Many many years ago I too made the mistake of staying there. After 2 nights in that place I found other accomodations. The owner John is a nice guy put the place is well below my expected standard. I have never recommended that place to anyone. I dont know why so many mongers were raving about that place.[/QUOTE]While I was in Sosua, I met a guy who stayed at the Palace back in 2000. He said the Palace was very nice back then and full of Chicas. He doesn't stay there anymore because the place is no longer in good shape. I think you are right - John is a very nice guy. It would have been nice, if I could have seen the Palace in its glory days. Does anyone know of any other chica friendly hotel aside from Club Residencial and Europa that are worth staying at?
I will be arriving in Sosua in a few days. I will be arriving in the early evening and have a few questions:
1) What are M&M Massage's hours?
2) Where is the closest place to the Europa that is open in the evening to pick up water, beer and assorted sundry items?
3) What are Caribbean Com***ications & Orange's hours?
4) Where is the closest farmacia to the Europa? Hours & value for Vitamin C & V.
5) Which is the best farmacia for Vitamin V & C?
6) Is Ambien available in the farmacias?
I look forward to meeting anyone who willbe in Sosua when I am (Feb. 3-10). Shoot me a PM.
Thanks.
I will be arriving in Sosua in a few days. I will be arriving in the early evening and have a few questions:
1) What are M&M Massage's hours?
2) Where is the closest place to the Europa that is open in the evening to pick up water, beer and assorted sundry items?
3) What are Caribbean Com***ications & Orange's hours?
4) Where is the closest farmacia to the Europa? Hours & value for Vitamin C & V.
5) Which is the best farmacia for Vitamin V & C?
6) Is Ambien available in the farmacias?
I look forward to meeting anyone who willbe in Sosua when I am (Feb. 3-10). Shoot me a PM.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Lotech]I will be arriving in Sosua in a few days. I will be arriving in the early evening and have a few questions:[/QUOTE][QUOTE]2) Where is the closest place to the Europa that is open in the evening to pick up water, beer and assorted sundry items?[/QUOTE]There is a colmado less than a block away on the main drag, Pedro Clisante, just a few doors past Domino's Bar. It carries the things you mentioned and is open until around 11 PM.
[QUOTE]4) Where is the closest farmacia to the Europa? Hours & value for Vitamin C & V.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of farmacias on Pedro Clisante, I believe. There is one for sure opposite La Roca Restaurant near the street to the beach. Sorry, I don't go around writing down hours of operation. Other priorities, you understand.
[QUOTE]5) Which is the best farmacia for Vitamin V & C?[/QUOTE]I don't know that there is a best. They all sell those items over the counter. There is now on the market in the DR a generic brand of Cialis called "LaPela". It's a good deal at two tablets for 100 pesos.
Sorry, can't help with the other questions.
This is from the horse's mouth:
To all our friends of the earlier massages:
from the 26 of January we will be open from 1 pm thru 2 pm...
so you don't have to wait till 4 o' clock for your erotic massage
see you soon
La Passion Management
From me:
There is a small groceria about a half-block from Europa (toward town) that is open fairly late. Get only what you need for the first night. The following day, go to Super Super (at end of the same block) and stock up your fridge.
The most complete farmacia is on the end of Pedro Clisante (across the street from La Roca). I brought my own Vitamin V, so I can't advise the cost or whether you need prescription (I sorta doubt it).
I neglected to give you this - check it out.
[url]http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosua/[/url]
Peter lists the latest talent (click PHOTOS on the left). There is a high turnover of girls, so there may be a different group by the time you arrive. Copy the names of any girls you like - you can at least ask about them - they may be in later, or they may have moved on.
Again, DON'T buy a drink for a lady, unless you have decided she is the one. The others will stay away from you if you do. Wait until you are approached - you will be - by one and all until you have selected one. Usually eye contact and a smile is enough to attract the one you want.
The massage is $900 DR. I usually tip $100 more if it's a good blowjob. They seem happy with that.
I envy you - sitting in cold New York and thinking about the warm climate and warm cunts you'll be greeted by.
Please return and give us all a detailed report of your vacation.
Sorry - I didn't realize giving La Passion's address was a no-no.
Google "La Passion Massage" "Sosua" and you'll get it.
[QUOTE=Silver Shadow]Sorry - I didn't realize giving La Passion's address was a no-no.
Google "La Passion Massage" "Sosua" and you'll get it.[/QUOTE]
You'd think so but googling it doesn't get there at all.
You can't miss La Passion it is right on the main strip in Sosua.
Peter is usually there and its a nice place to hang out.
Peace:
WSJ3
:)
I'm distraught to hear that my long-term friend Ford had this experience. We all travel with the thoughts that we are targets to be ripped off, but to have a hotel in complicity with this is something to think about a lot.
I arrived in the DR with my bankcard, which works (without a penalty fee back home). I've never used an Amex or other card (I have them) to withdraw cash, because my bankcard works just fine.
Last fall, I hit a problem. I was there for October and November, and at the end of October, my bank card didn't work anymore. It took telephone calls to my ex-girlfriend in NewYork, who wasn't happy about my absence, but she FedExed the new card (my old one expired) to me. Another ***** to get them verified from the DR. (the DR doesn't accept the telephone numbers that would be required). It finally got worked out.
I have a many$thousand draw on my Mastercard - but smart me - never thought to ask about a pin number. I'll do that soon.
A lot of things are different in the DR. You have to swing and adjust.
That got done, and I had a marvelous time. I'll be somewhat smarter the next time I arrive.
Yeah, I'm still here in case some of you were wondering. For those of you who I missed during your short visit here, I have to apologize. I was busy with two new lady friends. Sorry, no photos will be available anytime soon.
Hello to my new buddy Tony from NY who I hung out with last night. It was his last night. Tony, my other good buddy J Dog and I hit Frank's, Cristals, Seacrets and then Classico.
The talent is nice at Franks. Yes, I endorse the place. Even thought about making one of the girls from that place a regular of mine. I can't just have one. I get bored too easily. I enjoy quantity and quality and so far have been very lucky in finding both here during these 5-6 weeks I have been here.
My other new buddy "A" will be making one of the newer girls at Frank's a house wife. I saw her and my friend last night at the club and talked a bit with them and then left her. She was sick with some sort of chest pain and headache. I saw her the two nights previously. Go figure.
Guess who walks into Classico? My buddy "A" and his new GF. Both as happy as can be. I applaud them. Hope it works out for everyone. Another one taken from Franks. She has only been working for 3 weeks now.
Point is....if you like something, don't hesitate...go for it and grab it. if you decide to wait for later, you may find yourself without the one you really wanted in the beginning.
This is the most I have written since I've been down here. Enough boredom. I'll entertain all questions.
Enjoy!
MISTER NYC :D
Okay, maybe this is a case of RTFB......
I'm interested in going down with my buddy. We have limited funds, so RIO is not an option.
How good is the beach at Sousa? Basically is it as good as a East Coast beach and are there open air bars and stuff along the beach? Is the provider action all pretty close to the beach? And what about SW? I've seen lots posted on the clubs, I like the grittier -accl (almost concentration camp lean) SW (hey, to each his own, right).
I got all the girl info I need from the board, what I want to know about is the "hang out and drink corona" factor....for example Juarez, Mexico IMHO has a high "hang out" factor but a low quality of providers.
Probably thinking of going down for a few days in April.
I like the sounds of "two" new lady friends. You are becoming an icon on the North Coast, and I'm sure I speak for everyone on the board in thanking you for your detailed updates on the situation in "FANTASY" Land. I only wish I could be down half as much as you are.
Regards, Keep up the Doubles!!!!
I just noticed, this message makes me a century old!
Look out Ford, I am gaining fast........................
[QUOTE=Mister]Well, I believe it is 280 pesos one way. You actually get off in Los Charamicos and then hop on a moto concho for a quick 5 minute ride to Sosua for another 20 pesos. The ride from the capital to sosua is nearly 5 hours.
See you around...still alive and well here in my second home.
MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]What is the best way to get to Sosua? Do you guys fly into the Puerto Plata International Airport? What about flying into Santiago Airport and then taking a taxi? Any idea how the drive would take and how much it would cost?
Thanks
IMHO the beach is Sosua is much better than most East Coast USA beaches. The water is far superior, and the beach itself is much better than anything in the northeast, with the possible exception of Acadia and Cape Cod. At Acadia, though, the water is freezing, even in August, and Cape Cod – well it’s the Atlantic. You can’t see your feet once you walk into the water.
I like the firm sand of Daytona, but nowhere on the Atlantic Coast does the water compare with Sosua. Cancun is my absolute favorite, powdery beach and crystal clear water, but I can’t fault Sosua. The only drawback to me is that the ends of the beach are rocky underwater – the center is fine.
There are wall-to-wall stalls and bars up under the trees, just off the beach. Smiles, some token Spanish, and a friendly attitude will insure making friends.
Good hunting!
Flying into Puerto Plata is by far the best.
Some amazingly cheap fares can be had by JetBlue flying into Santiago.
The problem: they are all red-eyes, which will put you into a deserted airport at 1:00 or 2:00 AM - not a taxi to be found until about 8:00. Then, a taxi to Sosua is about $80US. The trip takes about two hours. An alternative (for saving a few bucks) is to take the taxi at 8:00 or so to Caribetours in Santiago (about $20US), a bus to Charamicos (about $2US), and a motoconcho from the dropoff point to your place in Sosua (about $1US).
Should you check luggage and it doesn't arrive in Santiago when you do, you're screwed. You're stuck there until it does. They're not going to deliver it door-to-door for you.
Since my one experience at STO, I've flown into Puerto Plata, without problem. The taxi is an overpriced $20, but the saving of time and the absence of grief is worth the higher price (to me, anyway).
Jdindc9
If you can wing it, fly into Puerto Plata. GRINGO taxi ride is $20.00 and expect EVERYONE to want $1.00 from you when you leave the airport (bloodsuckers). Don't be afraid of saying NO. I saw a guy last night ripe a kid a new ass, bravo, bravo...... Some of the kids (male) don't understand that no means to move on to the next gringo. I had 1 follow me for 2 blocks starting out with my NO|, then he wanted $1.00 us, then it was 1 paso, then he was hungry, then he hadn't eaten in 3 days, then it was he needed a paso for school...bla,bla,bla.... I saw the shithead later with a group of brats. When I walked passed, he threw something at me. Am I sure it was him, not really. But I would place a bet on it.
Also one quick thing. Buys if your out on the town, don't get plowed. I saw some sorry idiot last night 2 sheets to the wind. Causing problems at the bar. Pushing other gringo's, arguing with the girls. He finally get directed to the bar, he orders a couple more drinks and goes to pay for his drinks...Then he realizes he doesn't have his wallet, victim of a pick pocket, or the dumbass might of left it on the bar earlier..... I saw someone trying to get the guy a cab prior to him going up to the bar, and he pushed the guy away. STAY SAFE BOYS!!!!! M&M
[QUOTE=Mimonger]Jdindc9
If you can wing it, fly into Puerto Plata. GRINGO taxi ride is $20.00 and expect EVERYONE to want $1.00 from you when you leave the airport (bloodsuckers). Don't be afraid of saying NO. I saw a guy last night ripe a kid a new ass, bravo, bravo...... Some of the kids (male) don't understand that no means to move on to the next gringo. I had 1 follow me for 2 blocks starting out with my NO|, then he wanted $1.00 us, then it was 1 paso, then he was hungry, then he hadn't eaten in 3 days, then it was he needed a paso for school...bla,bla,bla.... I saw the shithead later with a group of brats. When I walked passed, he threw something at me. Am I sure it was him, not really. But I would place a bet on it.
Also one quick thing. Buys if your out on the town, don't get plowed. I saw some sorry idiot last night 2 sheets to the wind. Causing problems at the bar. Pushing other gringo's, arguing with the girls. He finally get directed to the bar, he orders a couple more drinks and goes to pay for his drinks...[b]Then he realizes he doesn't have his wallet, victim of a pick pocket,[/b] or the dumbass might of left it on the bar earlier..... I saw someone trying to get the guy a cab prior to him going up to the bar, and he pushed the guy away. STAY SAFE BOYS!!!!! M&M[/QUOTE]
I am hearing more of these unfortunate stories.
This is why I always leave my wallet in a hotel safe.
I only carry cash in my pocket. And I only wear pants that has a button for a pocket. GAP, Walmart, Target, all sell these type of pants.
Stay safe everyone!!!
New World Order is on the mark.
The best early advice I got in Sosua was not to carry money in your front pocket. Unfortunately, it was too late, but fortunately I didn't have that much on me.
Ted, the bartender at Rocky's (he's been there nine years), told me that he had been pickpocketed early-on on the street, and that he cut up peso-sized paper, marked it with "Ladrona" (female thief), and stuffed his pocket before going out to discos. He enjoyed getting his groin massaged, and didn't worry about getting his pockets emptied. He told me that he got played with, happily and steadily, for several nights, then word got around that he was the guy with the phony bucks. His pockets were pretty safe thereafter.
A lady on the street will come up and look you in the eyes while she strokes your groin, or a friend does this for her, while one of them is emptying your pocket. They are fast, and they are accomplished. Don't try to outsmart them, unless your $ is hidden.
There are many ways to protect $, and I wouldn't start a how-to in this forum. The same things work worldwide.
[QUOTE=Silver Shadow]New World Order is on the mark.
The best early advice I got in Sosua was not to carry money in your front pocket. Unfortunately, it was too late, but fortunately I didn't have that much on me.
Ted, the bartender at Rocky's (he's been there nine years), told me that he had been pickpocketed early-on on the street, and that he cut up peso-sized paper, marked it with "Ladrona" (female thief), and stuffed his pocket before going out to discos. He enjoyed getting his groin massaged, and didn't worry about getting his pockets emptied. He told me that he got played with, happily and steadily, for several nights, then word got around that he was the guy with the phony bucks. His pockets were pretty safe thereafter.
A lady on the street will come up and look you in the eyes while she strokes your groin, or a friend does this for her, while one of them is emptying your pocket. They are fast, and they are accomplished. Don't try to outsmart them, unless your $ is hidden.
There are many ways to protect $, and I wouldn't start a how-to in this forum. The same things work worldwide.[/QUOTE]
Very good advice!!! Thank you for sharing them with us!!! :)
So everyone, be extra careful out there!!!
This snow sucks. I'm going to the Sosua this weekend and I can't wait. I hope to see some of you at Classico or you can catch me at the bar at Europa during the day.
I'm a newbie thinking of planning a trip down to the Sosua / Cabarete area for the first time. I am interested in staying at a high end hotel.
What is the possibility of bringing chicas back to the Piergiorgio Palace Hotel?
Any other high end hotels in the area chica friendly?
Thanks for your help!
Went to Sousa a few years ago - had a great time - The wacko I am going with this time is more interested in the lighter skinned woman. Will he be able to find any in Sousa?
Thanks.
I read on the net that it was chica friendly a while ago, but have no experience or confirmation from other sources.
That "high end" place is girl friendly....but one at a time and don't make too much noise or make it obvious to everyone.
Yeah, still here in "Fantasy" land kind friend. Someone has to do this type of work down here. Poking quality stuff at the right prices makes me smile ear to ear.
It's raining a lot right now. Just hit us bad with non stop rain for the past 3 hours. Should clear up by morning though.
J Dogg left today, however two nice people come into town Thursday and Friday for a short getaway...WestFl and LAJazz. I know you're reading this.
Taking it easy now and catching up on some work during this short break in time to party it up again Thursday-Sunday. For now, I'll just be ordering in...meaning, I pick up the phone and have the girls come by on rotating shifts so that we all have a good time.
I know we always say I'll see you down here, but who the hell really knows. Too difficult to put a face to a name at times. Once again, I'll entertain any questions.
See the rest of you when I see you.
MISTER NYC :D
Could someone please tell me how far the Club Residencials is from Hotel Europa or the Palace? Thanks in advance.
Viper
Club Residenciales is a block from Europa (away from downtown) on the same side of the street.
It's just around the corner from the Palace, but RTFF before you book there. It sounds as though things have changed since its high-water mark.
Does anybody know how long it takes the Europa to respond. I've been trying to make a reservation, but I haven't had an e-mail response from their website.
Use [email]real.state@verizon.net.do[/email]. I've always gotten a response within 24 hours.
Another great day. The exchange rate was 34.40 pesos to 1 USD in Sosua. May have been 10 pesos more or 10 pesos less depending on what time of day you made your transaction and where, but you get the picture.
I ate at Suzanna's; local dominican place that draws a tourist and a local crowd. The food is good and for 100 pesos, you get a meal and something to drink; juice, coke, etc. It is located to the right of Plaza Allegria which is the hut across the street from the 4 Roses bar.
Got my haircut today at Leo's right after. Freddy always cuts my hair. I always pay him 150 pesos since he always does a good job. The normal price is 100 pesos. I pay $15 in NYC weekly for it, so I can not complain. I'm happy.
Talked with Melody aka Marleny too. She has no more extensions and is sporting a carrot top hair do. She looks "funky" in my opinion, but very tempting if you are into that devilish seductive teasing look and a small thin frame. I haven't done her yet, but I just may have to. She is supposed to be outstanding and takes it like a champ and leaves no evidence behind if you know what I mean. Some of you may have met her at the Palace.
Later on...
Went through my rolodex of non-hardcore pros and called up a few. One says tomorrow. The other one says she is getting better; she has been sick with the flu for the past 3-5 days. I learned to stay away from those sick ones since they just don't perform 110%. Another one says call her tomorrow afternoon and one doesn't answer. That leaves me with shit to do tonight or shit to hook up with from my "trouble-free" batch.
No problemo. This chic from the new disco, Sea-Crets, calls me up. I think she is the finest bartender at this place. Anyone done her yet? No names.
If you have been, you know exactly who I am talking about. So we chat for a bit, but guess what? Yeah, she is with her kid and getting ready to report for duty at her job. She spends all day with her kid and works at this place at night. I like challenges. I will be stopping by in a little while.
Caught up with some work...
Then ate at La Roca. #9 on the Members Only Menu is damn tasty! It's the BBQ Ribs with a side dish. I always stick with the mashed potatoes. I then decided to take in some carrot cake and coffee. All ready within 10 minutes. All for 350 pesos plus tip. Again, this is the members only/resident menu. You have to spend a lot of time down here to eat like this for cheap or know the owner or be nice friends with the staff. I'm in all 3. Service is great and the price is very reasonable. Stop by.
After that great dinner, I felt lucky, so I hit the Casino. I won about $70USD in 30 minutes. Not bad at all. I left a winner.
Caught up on some more work after and here I am...thought I'd just share part of my day with you guys.
I'm going to take a 30 minute power nap (spelling?) and...
The hunt begins gentleman! ! !
MISTER NYC :D
Hello all,
I was last in sosua in dec of 2002, Average price for an average chick back then was 500 pesos for short time. Would i be correct in saying the price is now around 1000 pesos? I also have a few questions that if anyone has answers to them, id greatly appreciate it, thanks in advance for any replies
1/I am staying at the Europe hotel in Sosua, but i have one problem, i am flying into santo domingo at 3 pm on feb 21. I would like to know if anyone knows the cost of taking a taxi from santo domingo airport to the carbie tours bus terminal?
2/ I would like to stay the last night in Santo domingo as my flight also returns from there. Can anyone recommend an average priced hotel close to some action. Is there any hotels in the $50 range?
3/Is anyone going to be in Sosua from feb 21 to the 28th? If so, id love to talk chicas over a couple presidentes, let me know.
4/ Besides being darker, is there any other way to tell a Hatian from a Dominican? Ive also found on my trip in 2002 that the haitians were more fun to be with when it comes to watching the clock. How much less (cost wise) would the Hatian chicas be compared to the Dominican chicas?
5/ Is hari garis(something like that) down the road from Europe hotel, where jovi(jubi) works, still open? What about the other bars in Sosua, whats open now a days and whats the going price out of these hotels?
6/ Someone posted the name of chiquita as the casino there. Is this the same casino in Sosua that was there back 4 years ago? If so, whats it like now? It was pretty dead most nights back in 2002.
Thanks again for any replies
[QUOTE=Cainer]Hello all,
I was last in sosua in dec of 2002, Average price for an average chick back then was 500 pesos for short time. Would i be correct in saying the price is now around 1000 pesos? I also have a few questions that if anyone has answers to them, id greatly appreciate it, thanks in advance for any replies
2/ I would like to stay the last night in Santo domingo as my flight also returns from there. Can anyone recommend an average priced hotel close to some action. Is there any hotels in the $50 range?
4/ Besides being darker, is there any other way to tell a Hatian from a Dominican? Ive also found on my trip in 2002 that the haitians were more fun to be with when it comes to watching the clock. How much less (cost wise) would the Hatian chicas be compared to the Dominican chicas?
[/QUOTE]
2/ Why don't you consider the hotel Naco? It is located on the web at [url]www.nacohotel.com[/url]. It will run you $65 a night, completely guest friendly with no extra charge for a girl. It is stylish with a casino and small restaurant. Action is available at the casino and you are a short cab ride down Ave Tiradentes to the Malecon.
4/ Its all about Creole bro! The native language of the indigenous Haitan people is Creole. Many people incorrectly think that Haitians speak French - not so! Although, Creole has at its core words that are of French derivation - make no mistake about it, its a separate language. To a certain degree since %90 of Haitians are fluent in this language it creates a degree of isolation between them and other islanders and even with their neighbors on Hispaniola.
How are they different? The Haitians that emigrate to the DR are largely members from the uneducated, undeveloped working class and as a result have a slow plodding way of speaking Spanish. (Some can't speak Spanish at all) For some tourists its probably easier to understand their Spanish because they speak so much slower - but in any regards as soon as a Haitian girl opens her mouth you'll realize in 5 seconds she's not Dominican by the way she speaks. Darker skin tone, yes maybe but alot of these kind of things are generalizations. There are very dark toned Dominicanas also.
Alright, I tackled question 2 and 4. :)
cheers..........
Ford,
Do wou know anything about this hotel in Santo Domingo? Santo Domingo - Barcelo Gran Hotel Lina & Casino
Also, someone must know the best way from Santo Domingo airport to caribe tours? Do I take a taxi? How far is it to the bus station and what is the cost? I am guessing no esta muy cerca, verdad? donde esta la parada de auto buses?
About a week ago, I just stayed at the Riazor on Avenue Independencia, right across the street from the Jaragua Casino and 100 yards from Lapsus, Tabu and Volare and 1 block from the Malecon. Only 2 blocks to Parada and a short distance from Remingtons. Walking distance to Zona Colonial and El Conde. Totally girl friendly, they make a copy of her cedula. Price for a regular room is less than $50. Rooms are nice with AC, fridge, good water pressure and lots of hot water. The wooden bedframe squeaked like crazy tho.
All in all, for cost, location and quality, I recommend it
Hey Ford, or anyone else,
Have any of you been in the casino in Sosua? From the web page, it looks like the same casino that was there in 2002, but I think they did some renovations. I also noticed they have texas holdem poker there as well. Wow, I'm going to have a blast as I love poker. What more could a guy ask for then to play some poker, and pick and chase your chica for the night. Oh this is going to be fun. So, is anyone going to be in Sosua from feb 21 to March 1st? Let me know and we can hook up for a couple of beers. I could use some advice as its been 4 long years since I was last there. Ps. I also noticed the casino has rooms, anyone know what they are like and how much? thanks again I leave tommorow, so, hopefully someone will post somoe infor tonight or early tommorow. Thanks again in advance for any info and beer is on me.
Ford, Mister, wow, the company is good in the DR... Didn't realize some of my heros are hanging out here.
Just booked vacation in Cabarete. Here is the challenge: She who must be obeyed is in the condo, and LL will be sneaking out to Sousa for afternoon delights. So two questions:
1. What is the best venue or hunting ground to QUICKLY locate a new amiga in the mid-afternoon? My instincts would be roam the streets and beach area and make lots of eye contact with the eye candy, but I may be mistaken.
2. Where is the best/cheapest short time notel to take my new acquaintaces back to? I'd sure hate to pay more to the hotel than the chica...
PM is fine, but the answers would also make good intel for the board.
TIA
LoveLOS
[QUOTE=Cainer]Ford,
Do wou know anything about this hotel in Santo Domingo? Santo Domingo - Barcelo Gran Hotel Lina & Casino
Also, someone must know the best way from Santo Domingo airport to caribe tours? Do I take a taxi? How far is it to the bus station and what is the cost? I am guessing no esta muy cerca, verdad? donde esta la parada de auto buses?[/QUOTE]That is a nice place but you have to pay an extra if you bring up a girl and no way to bring more than one at the same time.
Not really a mongering place and quite far from the action.
[QUOTE=Cainer]Ford,
Do wou know anything about this hotel in Santo Domingo? Santo Domingo - Barcelo Gran Hotel Lina & Casino
Also, someone must know the best way from Santo Domingo airport to caribe tours? Do I take a taxi? How far is it to the bus station and what is the cost? I am guessing no esta muy cerca, verdad? donde esta la parada de auto buses?[/QUOTE]
The Barcelo Gran Hotel Lina & Casino. I stopped by a couple of weeks ago and had a drink at the bar. Nice place, nice stylish lobby, bar. Outdoor pool
If I'm remembering correctly it runs you around $85 a night on the internet but you can do a whole lot better if you go w/o reservations a negotiate with the front desk when you arrive. Got the vibe that if you bring in a guest they're going to try to "shake you down" for a guest fee.
Problems- its located on Ave Maximo Gomez near Ave 27 de Febrero which is quite near the old olympic complex but not anywhere near the Malecon. You'll need to take a cab everywhere. My driver used to take me past this place on the way to casa de coco's at night. We hit traffic one night, bad and I directed him to pull in and have a drink with me.
To Lovelos,
Wow, I'm someones hero! (lol) :) I'm gonna let you down though. Last 4 trips to the DR have been to Santo Domingo - I'm kind of out of the north coast loop. (sorry)
Mister will know. He knows everything about the north coast. Good luck with "the one that has to be obeyed". Enjoy your trip!
cheers...........
Thanks for the previous responses. A few more questions. Is the Passion Massage worth a visit? No condom Bj? come in mouth? I saw that you can take them to the hotel for a salida fee, but what the hell is to stop u from reaching a private agreement with the girl?
Going to see if I can get down there in May.
Thanks!
Hey LL,
1. Start your hunt around 2pm in the afternoon. Best around 4pm though...walk along Pedro Clisante aka the main strip and stop to have a beer or two at the bars by Europa. Yes, hit the beach also before or after the stroll.
2. 300 pesos for the Calypso Hotel/Motel. Turn into the block where Super Super Liquor store is located and it will be on the right hand side almost immediately.
Enjoy!
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Ford, Mister, wow, the company is good in the DR... Didn't realize some of my heros are hanging out here.
Just booked vacation in Cabarete. Here is the challenge: She who must be obeyed is in the condo, and LL will be sneaking out to Sousa for afternoon delights. So two questions:
1. What is the best venue or hunting ground to QUICKLY locate a new amiga in the mid-afternoon? My instincts would be roam the streets and beach area and make lots of eye contact with the eye candy, but I may be mistaken.
2. Where is the best/cheapest short time notel to take my new acquaintaces back to? I'd sure hate to pay more to the hotel than the chica...
PM is fine, but the answers would also make good intel for the board.
TIA
LoveLOS[/QUOTE]
Mista--- You ARE the man.
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Thanks for the previous responses. A few more questions. Is the Passion Massage worth a visit? No condom Bj? come in mouth? I saw that you can take them to the hotel for a salida fee, but what the hell is to stop u from reaching a private agreement with the girl?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
I reached a private agreement with my girl for 1300 pesos in total...original massage and chupa chupa was 1000. You have to have your own cover (which I did), and you have to be kinda quiet...the music basically blared out any moans, etc...and it was a great lil' session! You should speak spanish to try and negotiate/charm her, and maybe promise to meet her at closing (around 2am) for a night cap...
Semi-working girls (waitresses, camareras, etc.) generally have better attitudes and tighter cooches vs. the Classico brigade at 3am you know...plus, they are less away of market prices...I never traded TLN for more than 1500 pesos under ANY circumstances...and average is 1200-1300...again, Spanish is useful here...a savings of 300 pesos per night for 7 nights adds up!
Just dropped by for my third time in the past 2 months.
One or two cuties in my opinion. The best tiime to go is from 4-6 where you will see the shift change and all of them at once.
Love that light skinned chic with a cute face and big knockers!
MISTER NYC :D
P.s. I haven't checked into this forum for days...sorry gents and thanks LL.
Yes, Flamingos reopens today. I will preview the talent later tonight. Talent from Santiago. Might be interesting. See some of you then...
MISTER NYC :D
Cainer, seeing that you are planning on making casino visits in DR, I felt compelled to re-post this warning that I'd posted a few months ago.
A number of casinos across DR offer a game called "Super Keno", also referred to as "Caribbean Keno". This game is a masterfully executed scam. Please review my previous post on this subject at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=410059#post410059[/url].
You can find additional information on this wide spread scam at [url]http://www.superkenoscam.com/[/url].
I don't know anything about this specific casino, but my understanding and experience is that the rest of the games at large casinos are probably fine and not rigged.
Best,
Jb
[QUOTE=Cainer]Hey Ford, or anyone else,
Have any of you been in the casino in Sosua? From the web page, it looks like the same casino that was there in 2002, but I think they did some renovations. I also noticed they have texas holdem poker there as well. Wow, I'm going to have a blast as I love poker. What more could a guy ask for then to play some poker, and pick and chase your chica for the night. Oh this is going to be fun. So, is anyone going to be in Sosua from feb 21 to March 1st? Let me know and we can hook up for a couple of beers. I could use some advice as its been 4 long years since I was last there. Ps. I also noticed the casino has rooms, anyone know what they are like and how much? thanks again I leave tommorow, so, hopefully someone will post somoe infor tonight or early tommorow. Thanks again in advance for any info and beer is on me.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone tell me the hot spots in dr especially in santiago. I know about the carwash, and I don't want to get with the chick I was with last time. And I need alot of chicas for the 3 weeks I'm staying. So someone email me on aol my s/n is stillsstanding.
I have noticed that a lot of people seems to like Hotel Europa ([url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html[/url]). When I have searched through the thread I havent got info on why. It seems to be a long way from the action and a long way from the beach. Or are there more than one hotel europa in Sosua?
Is it just the standard and price or are there any secrets with girls hanging in the lobby all night?
I can mention that I passed throught the hotel lobby around 10 pm one night in december 2004. When I wanted to see a room the lady in the reception couldnt let me do it as she must be at the front desk and there was no one else around to show me. Of course I didnt stay there as one has to look at the rooms before accepting them while travelling in the third world.
Why hotel Europa
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My first trip to Sosua was in Hotel Europa. I didn't check out the rooms in advance, but they were clean and well maintained. The staff, including Diego, the owner, were very helpful while I was there (a week in November 2004).
I've been in Sosua on a couple of visits since, staying in condos, but have heard nothing but good reports from guys staying at Europa.
Europa is no more than a ten-minute walk to the beach - which you can cut in half if you hail a motoconcho. The "center of action" in Sosua is no more than a five-minute stroll away. I'm talking about Britannia Pub and most of the popular spots.
If you've been there before, as your post implies, you know that the local talent is not hanging around the Europa lobby at night. They are across the street, at the Domino and Four Roses bars. Order a beer and see what happens. There are no secrets about what their moves will be.
I don't know whether Europa "shows" rooms - they didn't for me, and I wasn't disappointed - and the only chica-friendly hotel that I know closer to the beach is one of Rocky's eight rooms (maybe four minutes closer to the beach), which is also chica-friendly. I've never been in one, and don't know what lies within.
Be adventuresome, dude.
For the reports I see that Sosua Palace, Europa and Club Residential are the places to stay. I hear a lot of bad talk about the Palace.
I'm going to Sosua for a few days in April and want to stay in a nice place that I can have two chicas at a time if I want to. Also, are these hotels close to "the action" and the beach? Thanks for any info.
Doeboy,
to Doe Boy,
The Palace has many problems and has lost many customers. It has about 13 rooms and has a run down quality to it. The owner is quite helpful but the Europa is more comfortable. The rooms are more secure and they are guest friendly. Bringing a chica up is no problem. If you want to bring up two the second one will be charged $15. Hotel Europa is close to the action and Domino bar and Four Roses is across the street.
The Palace is not a bad place and now that John is living on site it is getting better. Early April 1-4 it will be jamming with a bunch of regulars for anyone that is realitively new this is a great starting point, as is Field of Dreams in POP or BlackBeards in Caberette.
But for wild debauched evenings nothing beats the dirt streets of Sousa
[quote=doe boy]for the reports i see that sosua palace, europa and club residential are the places to stay. i hear a lot of bad talk about the palace.
i'm going to sosua for a few days in april and want to stay in a nice place that i can have two chicas at a time if i want to. also, are these hotels close to "the action" and the beach? thanks for any info.
doeboy,[/quote]re: europa, there is actually two hotels that make up the europa. one side is a typical hotel room usually around $35 usd a night. a/c, cable with porno channel, balcony, small fridge and microwave. the other side of the street (also hotel europa) has studio and small apartments usually around $28 to $32 usd a night. these are the ones i prefer. i recommend a one-bedroom apartment. you have a large king size bedroom with electronic safe you program the combination for. a/c, cable, large bathroom, full kitchen with pots and pans etc..., dining area and living room. better deal than the hotel room imho. and the pool is nice also. also has 24/7 security but is easier to slip in with two girls. resturant sucks. the europa does have free high speed internet in the lobby. europa is close to many bars and a short walk to the most popular discos (i.e. classicos and club x). always call europa first. end of feb they were completely book up. it was carnival time.
another alternative is hotel romanoff. located across the street from edy's sports bar. same type of hotel as europa and same rates but closer to the beach. also has a good resturant next door. close to discos also.
re: discos i prefer the classico. i was there two saturdays ago and felt like chum in a shark tank there was so many hungry chicas. club x is also very good. i have a beer or cuba libre downstairs in the merengue club while waiting for classicos to open.
also recommend sundays on the beach. most dominicans have sunday off and they head to the beach. we call it parada de chocha's. the pussy parade. lots of chicas up and down the beach. it is better imho to pick a girl on the beach, tell her your hotel and tell her what time you want to meet her. excellent way to get some economical pussy before you head out for the evening to the discos or casinos. best chicas i have been with i have pulled off the beach. most economical also. they are usually not the hrd core pros you find in the discos. usually part-timers. also if you speak alittle spanish go out in the campo for chicas.
take care,
nomad
[QUOTE=Cainer]Hey Ford, or anyone else,
Have any of you been in the casino in Sosua? From the web page, it looks like the same casino that was there in 2002, but I think they did some renovations. I also noticed they have texas holdem poker there as well. Wow, I'm going to have a blast as I love poker. What more could a guy ask for then to play some poker, and pick and chase your chica for the night. Oh this is going to be fun. So, is anyone going to be in Sosua from feb 21 to March 1st? Let me know and we can hook up for a couple of beers. I could use some advice as its been 4 long years since I was last there. Ps. I also noticed the casino has rooms, anyone know what they are like and how much? thanks again I leave tommorow, so, hopefully someone will post somoe infor tonight or early tommorow. Thanks again in advance for any info and beer is on me.[/QUOTE]
The casino is Sosua is kinda second rate. Still a good time but there are others close by that are alot better. The AI Breezes (between Cabarete and Sosua) is open to the public and very nice. Also there is another one fairly new in Cabarete. From the outside (have not been inside this last trip)it looks to be sort of Vegas style. Very ritzy. I have never seen the Texas Hold-em table in use in the Sosua casino (MR NYC would know better than I). The casino is Sosua is convenient you only need to hop on a moto conch. The other you must use a gua-gua or taxi. NOTE: Be very very very carefull when leaving the Casino in Sosua late at night. Only use a moto conch you know or try to get an older guy or if you won get a taxi. Some moto conchs will rob you in a heartbeat. DO NOT wear alot of jewelery, expensive watches or flash alot of cash. Use your street smarts. A friend of mine got a necklace snatched off his neck by a moto conch in broad daylight.
I personally have never had a problem in Sosua but know others that have. Use common sense this is a poor country.
Take care,
Nomad
Jackson,
Sosua is not spelled Suosa. It is Sosua. Not often we can catch YOU with a typo. You always get us though. :)
Nomad
[blue]Hi Falcao,
Thanks for the "heads up". My goal is to have the most accurate forum on the internet.
Jackson[/blue]
The Palace is not that bad and John is working on making improvements now that he lives on site.
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Thanks for the previous responses. A few more questions. Is the Passion Massage worth a visit? No condom Bj? come in mouth? I saw that you can take them to the hotel for a salida fee, but what the hell is to stop u from reaching a private agreement with the girl?
Going to see if I can get down there in May.
Thanks![/QUOTE]This has been done in the past. The girls usually get caught and fired.
I have to disagree with the previous poster, as I have made private arrangments with Passions girls many times.
Most work until midnight, or 1 a.m., and there is no one following them to see where they go when they leave. Some have suggested this before even being asked.
If you're staying at the Europa, it's only a three block stroll for them to drop by, and most are eager to pick up some pesos on the way home.
I pay the $900 pesos at the bar when I pick out the lady, then $100 or $200 tip, depending on how good the BJ was. She often asks where I'm staying, letting me know when she is available. My Spanish is poor, but good enough to deal with numbers and hours.
Experience has shown me that girls, even beautiful and talented, don't last very long at La Passions. I'd love to be Peter, who interviews them, though! Perhaps they don't make as much as working the street, although it's much cleaner and safer for them.
My advice: Don't hesitate to suggest an after-hours rendezvous.
I am not disagreeing. You can get them to do offsite stuff. It happens all the time and in some cases Peter is aware of it and the girl is that popular that he lets it slide for awhile. Eventually they quit because they have built up a good supply of offsite 'novios' and Western Union donators - or Peter is trying to stop the rot and fires them.
I do not know Peter well but - He wants the girls there during the day when they are working but when I asked him about them going offsite during the day he was not happy with the idea. He had been facing a lot of pressure about this and he told me that I should make a deal with them after hours when he was closed. What we did then was none of his business. I have to admit I never gave a propina and always got a BBBJ with a finish in their mouths.
Heard from a close friend that they are cracking down on the massage places and are requiring them to get some kinda permit. Peter is getting around this by taking the client and the girl to a cabana. Wont last long. The police periodically go on these crusades so it looks like they are cleaning up the town. It will be back to normal very quickly. Last time it was those roulette slot machines. I live in La Union by POP airport. The machines disappeared one day and were back two days later. They are not stupid. They know why so many gringos come to Sosua. They need the tourist dollar. They need you there. They just dont want it to turn ugly like it did in Boca Chica a few years back. Got really bad there and mongers stopped going there. Heard it has since been cleaned up.
But no sweat in Sosua. I was there last week and there were alot of very hungry and gorgeous chicas.
RE: Chicas leaving. They earn enough in 6 months to live good for a year in the Campo. That is what I prefer. I do not want the hard-core chicas.
Nomad
The recent closing of the MPs in Sousa caused Peter to have everything offsite. The licenses that everyone had to get took a little over a week, and one place didn't bother (forget which one) but Passions and M&Ms are back.
Govt wanted its taste through a nice license fee.
Thanks very much to all the people that help me with my Passion question. I'll make sure to check out the place when I go down there.
One more question, are there escort services down there. I would predominantly not use these but would be willing to pay a little extra one night for model quality chicas from an agency is this option is available.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Thanks very much to all the people that help me with my Passion question. I'll make sure to check out the place when I go down there.
One more question, are there escort services down there. I would predominantly not use these but would be willing to pay a little extra one night for model quality chicas from an agency is this option is available.
Thanks again![/QUOTE]Just go to Classicos in Sousa they will find you. For high end get to POP. See Franks and have him give you a tour of a few of the other clubs. He is great people.
Is there another Passions in other cities in DR other than Santiago that I need to know about. Its 15 days and counting when I head back to DR for 22 days of straight mongering, and I plan on mongering to my heart's content.
You may wander around the DR, but when you arrive in Sosua, drop your pants in La Passion. Hang around the bar, you will find several lovelies who want to massage you - choose one - and off you go. The fee at the bar is $900, whatever you want to tip is up to you. My tip was $200-$300, depending on the energy given.
Should you want to freelance, the bars across from the Europa (Four Roses and Dominica) are hunting grounds. The girls will crowd you if you look like a prospect. DON'T buy a drink for a girl if you don't want her to stick with you - there is some unwritten law where the other girls don't move in on a guy who has already bought a drink for a girl. Give her some pesos and send her on her way if you want to, but don't settle down with her if you want other women to hit you up. It's a good spot to bargain for anal sex, or whatever you like. These ladies like to take some $ home tonight.
Good hunting, guys.
[QUOTE=Still Mattic]Is there another Passions in other cities in DR other than Santiago that I need to know about. Its 15 days and counting when I head back to DR for 22 days of straight mongering, and I plan on mongering to my heart's content.[/QUOTE]
In Sousa there is a massage place called Passions.... 900 pesos for massage and BJ
RE: Across from Europa. The bar is called Domino's. Lots of hungry chicas always. Even when other places are slow. There has been a couple of bad chicas there in the past. Be carefull. Use common sense. If she has a "friend" who is a moto conch guy avoid her. It is probably her boyfriend.
For "model" type chicas I would recommend Crystal's in Puerto Plata. Near the baseball stadium. They also have a SPA next door that is good during the afternoon for a kinda Brazilian Terma experience. Kinda pricey though (for DR). The nightclub Crystal's is next door and has a good selection of very very hot chicas. There is also a bar across the street that has a nice selection usually for better prices. As I am a tightwad, in Crystal's I find a girl I like and tell her to meet me outside when the place closes. She will wait for you on the sidewalk and that way you do not pay a salida fee. (I told you I was cheap). Negotiate with her and off you go. Common courtesy that you pay for her taxi home in the morning if you take her back to Sosua. There is also El Boem in POP but I prefer Crystal's. Just seemed like there was a better selection. In my humble opinion.
Nomad
RE: Passions
Be lively. Helps if you speak spanish or go with a friend who does. Arrange to meet the chica when she is "off duty"
Nomad
[QUOTE=Falcao]RE: Passions
Be lively. Helps if you speak spanish or go with a friend who does. Arrange to meet the chica when she is "off duty"
Nomad[/QUOTE]
Any negotiations about meeting after hours for girls be it the highend POP places... Passions in Sousa or even Passions in Santiago requires Spanish or an English speaking girl which are few and far between... try and get their cell phones if they beg off meeting late night many will do a day time meet for cheap!!!
What city would you guys recommend to travel to in the DR to see lots of non-putas? Don't get me wrong, mongering with the putas is gonna be fun, but where can I find the local everday women in the dominican republic?
[QUOTE=Ykg3000]where can I find the local everday women in the dominican republic?[/QUOTE]
Nagua.
-Helpmann ;)
[QUOTE=Ykg3000]What city would you guys recommend to travel to in the DR to see lots of non-putas?[/QUOTE]If you are looking to hook up with a non-pro, the conventional wisdom says Santo Domingo or Santiago, but only if you speak decent Spanish and are presentable.
[QUOTE=Ykg3000]where can I find the local everday women in the dominican republic?[/QUOTE]The obvious answer is that they can be found in all locales every day.
Santiago has the University and there is an abundance of 20 something hotties if you have game.....
To the assholes who stayed on the 1st floor room by the pool and caused a 3 hour disturbance on Thursday at Hotel Europa , do everyone a favor and don't return. Who the F*ck are you to get jealous over some Sosua girl and break up the room, knock the girl out , knock 3 of your friends teeth out, and bleed all over the lobby of the Europa. It's assholes like you that f*ck it up for everyone else. If you can't handle your booz stay home in NY.
I have not been to Sosua in 3 years. I have stayed at the Palace and John was always a true gentleman. How is that place now and what are the hot spots in that town or should I stay in another town? It has been a while so I am looking to for advice.
Thanks,
backnblack
As a possible alternative to local "non-putas" consider what might be termed local "unspoiled putas". For practical purposes every little town and village in the country has a bar or bars and virtually every one of them has a gross excess of young waitresses sitting around for the purpose of attracting guys to drink.These chicas in bars away from the tourist areas are mostly unspoiled in the sense that they are there for the local traffic and are not used to extranjeros or gringos - or the inflated prices and expectations of the tourist areas.
These chicas are not necessarily putas and will not necessarily be willing to leave with you - at least the first time you meet. If they do leave there will be a small salida to pay (200 pesos or so is not so small by local standards and chicas are not that used to getting taken out from work). They are there to drink (sharing a Presidente Grande or Servicio) with you and dance if you want. This is to me a wonderful way to practice spanish and merengue, meet lots of pretty girls who are very interested in you and sometimes hook up with one.
To me this is one of the under-reported and most attractive aspects of the DR as a whole. Available young cute chicas are NOT just a tourist-town abberation, the local culture is extremely player-friendly and as a gringo-extranjero you are assumed to be rich and connected - which certainly gives you extra player points.
As to whether chicas in local bars and colmados are putas I would say that's as variable as topless dancers or barmaids in neighborhood clubs in the US. The job is not super respectable but it's not the same thing as being a Ho. Many girls in either would be quite insulted by a blunt offer of money for sex (though in both cases the degree of insult is in inverse proportion to the sum mentioned).
1000 pesos in this environment is throwing money around lavishly and stupidly. That's close to a week's wages. It's similar to offering a small town bar girl in the US $500. You will certainly get attention but you risk being disrespected as a fool and a mark.
Unlike trying to meet coeds and more upper middle class chicas this is like fishing in a barrel. Consider how comparatively rare topless bars or bars where you can easily pick up a girl at any time really are in the US. It's as though in the DR they are everywhere -as common as partystores or fast food places in the US.The DR is awash with semi-pro chicas just waiting to be hit on. Just order a Presidente Grande and a few plastic cups and start practicing your spanish. You'll be surprised at how much more motivated to learn you are than you were back in Mr. Garcia's class in high school.
[QUOTE=backnblack]I have not been to Sosua in 3 years. I have stayed at the Palace and John was always a true gentleman. How is that place now and what are the hot spots in that town or should I stay in another town? It has been a while so I am looking to for advice.
Thanks,
backnblack[/QUOTE]Palace is still alive. But they are looking to start selling the rooms as apartments. Sosua was doing well early this month. Ask me again after the 6th when I am down there. Classicos disco is great with lots and lots of chicas. Merengue bar also. Sosua had alot of chicas all over the place. Lots of new places have opened up also.
Nomad
[QUOTE=Falcao]Palace is still alive. But they are looking to start selling the rooms as apartments. Sosua was doing well early this month. Ask me again after the 6th when I am down there. Classicos disco is great with lots and lots of chicas. Merengue bar also. Sosua had alot of chicas all over the place. Lots of new places have opened up also.
Nomad[/QUOTE]
Sousa is always a fun town.... you can find it all and then some... interesting John is thinking of selling the apartments at the Palace..... I would take the Penthouse or A1 if the prices were right.... and then make the Penthouse what it could be..... finish the bar/kitchen.... improve the furniture, TV, and overall finish....
Find out the legal implications about the Palace. There is alot going on there and you don't want to be left hanging. Just a friendly piece of advice. Since you do not live in DR you might not be aware of the implications of what is going on. That is all I can say about it. You can ask around in Sosua and get a better idea of what is going on. Take care.
[QUOTE=Boriman]Find out the legal implications about the Palace. There is alot going on there and you don't want to be left hanging. Just a friendly piece of advice. Since you do not live in DR you might not be aware of the implications of what is going on. That is all I can say about it. You can ask around in Sosua and get a better idea of what is going on. Take care.[/QUOTE]
Would love a few more details.... where else can I look to get an idea of the mysterious post info....
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]As a possible alternative to local "non-putas" consider what might be termed local "unspoiled putas". For practical purposes every little town and village in the country has a bar or bars and virtually every one of them has a gross excess of young waitresses sitting around for the purpose of attracting guys to drink.These chicas in bars away from the tourist areas are mostly unspoiled in the sense that they are there for the local traffic and are not used to extranjeros or gringos - or the inflated prices and expectations of the tourist areas.
These chicas are not necessarily putas and will not necessarily be willing to leave with you - at least the first time you meet. If they do leave there will be a small salida to pay (200 pesos or so is not so small by local standards and chicas are not that used to getting taken out from work). They are there to drink (sharing a Presidente Grande or Servicio) with you and dance if you want. This is to me a wonderful way to practice spanish and merengue, meet lots of pretty girls who are very interested in you and sometimes hook up with one.
To me this is one of the under-reported and most attractive aspects of the DR as a whole. Available young cute chicas are NOT just a tourist-town abberation, the local culture is extremely player-friendly and as a gringo-extranjero you are assumed to be rich and connected - which certainly gives you extra player points.
As to whether chicas in local bars and colmados are putas I would say that's as variable as topless dancers or barmaids in neighborhood clubs in the US. The job is not super respectable but it's not the same thing as being a Ho. Many girls in either would be quite insulted by a blunt offer of money for sex (though in both cases the degree of insult is in inverse proportion to the sum mentioned).
1000 pesos in this environment is throwing money around lavishly and stupidly. That's close to a week's wages. It's similar to offering a small town bar girl in the US $500. You will certainly get attention but you risk being disrespected as a fool and a mark.
Unlike trying to meet coeds and more upper middle class chicas this is like fishing in a barrel. Consider how comparatively rare topless bars or bars where you can easily pick up a girl at any time really are in the US. It's as though in the DR they are everywhere -as common as partystores or fast food places in the US.The DR is awash with semi-pro chicas just waiting to be hit on. Just order a Presidente Grande and a few plastic cups and start practicing your spanish. You'll be surprised at how much more motivated to learn you are than you were back in Mr. Garcia's class in high school.[/QUOTE]
Great advice! Can you give any example of these palces?
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Great advice! Can you give any example of these palces?[/QUOTE]
some of the off the street restaurants and bars have cute non puta girls that you can chat up and take to dinner... the chicas give it up quicker than US girls - buy them a meal and a few drinks and they are a good shot at free sex.... they would rather spend the night in a nice hotel room with hot water and AC than go home to their place with no hot water and no TV and No fulltime electric.
The campos - small towns outside of the main towns - are also good but you need to speak the language.
Actually I have a non puta novia in San Andres and I go back to the SD/BC area every 3 to 4 months. I was thinking on flying in to POP next time and try the north coast for some action. I do speak spanish and can carry my own weight with the chicas. I was just asking for some town names so as to visit while I'm up north...Thanks
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Actually I have a non puta novia in San Andres and I go back to the SD/BC area every 3 to 4 months. I was thinking on flying in to POP next time and try the north coast for some action. I do speak spanish and can carry my own weight with the chicas. I was just asking for some town names so as to visit while I'm up north...Thanks[/QUOTE]Sabanete on the other side of Cabarete would be a good place to start.
Nomad
[QUOTE=Dbros9]Went to Sousa a few years ago - had a great time - The wacko I am going with this time is more interested in the lighter skinned woman. Will he be able to find any in Sousa?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Probably not. You may have to try Santiago.
[QUOTE=Nick Danger]Probably not. You may have to try Santiago.[/QUOTE]
try Ana Mariana's in POP. and yes there are some nice light skinned girls in Sousa you just have to look... Go to Classicos any night... also in POP you have the P4P places with a good color assortment.
Question for all. Is the room with Jacuzzi at Blackbeard's worth the price?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Question for all. Is the room with Jacuzzi at Blackbeard's worth the price?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Not when you can have fun in the public jacuzzi... damn I have been in it with 5-6 guys and 6-10 girls at the same time.... if you are a shy guy then maybe... but the right groups has a blast in the big outside jacuzzi
Having never been to the DR before, I'm looking forward to traveling to Sosua in June, a week or two after Memorial Day. Hoping it won't be sweltering there. Trying to get a few friends with me on board. Most likely will stay at Hotel Europa, unless I become aware of something better. I'll be following the forum for up-to-date info!
[QUOTE=Randy Tourist]Having never been to the DR before, I'm looking forward to traveling to Sosua in June, a week or two after Memorial Day. Hoping it won't be sweltering there. Trying to get a few friends with me on board. Most likely will stay at Hotel Europa, unless I become aware of something better. I'll be following the forum for up-to-date info![/QUOTE]
The Europa is handy and decent priced and is chica friendly so it is a good spot... Classicos is the big night spot for women but really the entire town is... just walk and smile and use a finger to beckon the ones you want... short time is 1000 pesos and lower - though people py more... toto la noche - all night ballpark 2000 pesos but they will go for higher at first....
LL did his recon at this wonderful haven with She who must be obeyed in the afternoon. SWMBO does get tired easily, so a night at the casino for LL was prescribed. Following the sage advice Mister gave me three pages back, I headed to Club X on the recommendation of a girl at the resort. FIgures, she was a tourist looking to get wild, and that is all that club X is, a place for the lady tourists to find guys, 'cause they can't compete with the pros in the open air bars. Now, if you have a game (and LL doesn't) look for a freebie there.
Walked across the street to Classicos. Fuck, what a buffet. LL was not used to being harsh with the ladies, so when he got accosted by a moderately OK looking one who was all over him, little LL stated thinking. She started negotiations at 3000. I negotiated her back down to 1200 and we left. When we Calypso hotel, and got prepared for ST, somehow the negotiations got lost in the translation and this one wanted 1500 to proceed. I almost walked but she had me. We went thru the motions but LL was dissappointed.
Note to LL - spend more time, be more selective, avoid the pushy ones, make sure you have a rapport before hitting the hotel...
She wanted cab fare but I walked her back to the bar an told he she wasn't taking a cab so no cab fare. Hasta la Vista, baby, I won't be back.
Next stop was the Sosua Life bar. Lessons learned and I sent three away before the girl with that perfect face LL always loves sits down. (Close friends know that face well) We chatted as well as my spanish allowed (and drank) for an hour and the results in the hotel were top notch. Damn I wish I could remember her name, but we showered together and the ST was just fucking excellent. What a doll baby.
I love this country!
LoveLOS
PS [post=450890]Next report in Cabarete....[/post]
LL you sound like you have the fever... I go down 3 times a year.... only $300 -$400 roundtrip from NYC.... you should try Santiago if you have Spanish.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]LL did his recon at this wonderful haven with She who must be obeyed in the afternoon. SWMBO does get tired easily, so a night at the casino for LL was prescribed. Following the sage advice Mister gave me three pages back, I headed to Club X on the recommendation of a girl at the resort. FIgures, she was a tourist looking to get wild, and that is all that club X is, a place for the lady tourists to find guys, 'cause they can't compete with the pros in the open air bars. Now, if you have a game (and LL doesn't) look for a freebie there.
Walked across the street to (fill in bar on edit). Fuck, what a buffet. LL was not used to being harsh with the ladies, so when he got accosted by a moderately OK looking one who was all over him, little LL stated thinking. She started negotiations at 3000. I negotiated her back down to 1200 and we left. When we Calypso hotel, and got prepared for ST, somehow the negotiations got lost in the translation and this one wanted 1500 to proceed. I almost walked but she had me. We went thru the motions but LL was dissappointed.
Note to LL - spend more time, be more selective, avoid the pushy ones, make sure you have a rapport before hitting the hotel...
She wanted cab fare but I walked her back to the bar an told he she wasn't taking a cab so no cab fare. Hasta la Vista, baby, I won't be back.
Next stop was the Sosua Life bar. Lessons learned and I sent three away before the girl with that perfect face LL always loves sits down. (Close friends know that face well) We chatted as well as my spanish allowed (and drank) for an hour and the results in the hotel were top notch. Damn I wish I could remember her name, but we showered together and the ST was just fucking excellent. What a doll baby.
I love this country!
LoveLOS
PS Next report in Cabarete....[/QUOTE]
The fill in the name bar opposite Club X is Classicos
[QUOTE=Lotech]I'm weighing taking Caribe Tours vs. Taxi from SDQ to Sosua. Does anyone know costs and travel time for each ? Any preferences?
Thanks[/QUOTE]From memory Caribe tours was about four hours when I made the trip last year. Many times cheaper than a taxi but difficult return journey due to lack of A/C on coach.
Nothing says loving like a hot tub full of bbbj providing chicas.
Peace:
WSJ3
:)
[QUOTE=Escort King]Not when you can have fun in the public jacuzzi... damn I have been in it with 5-6 guys and 6-10 girls at the same time.... if you are a shy guy then maybe... but the right groups has a blast in the big outside jacuzzi[/QUOTE]
R Ley, you got a bad bus. I've always been quite comfy on Caribe Tours.
[QUOTE=WSJ3]Nothing says loving like a hot tub full of bbbj providing chicas.
Peace:
WSJ3
:)[/QUOTE]
But of course.... I see a few other I-S-O-Cers on the boards here...
hi there mungers
went to Punta Cana & Sosua
I will write a report asap.
But I had back luck in sosua.
I picked up a Haiti girl at Classicos, went with her to a cheap hotel around the corner and had a great time.....untill my rubber broke, wich I didnt see before I got my dick out...
I feel very bad about this and do hope this will have no effect on my future...
I didnt come in her luckaly, but anyways its a very bad experience to have.
Does anybody had this before??
One great place to go is La Passion, ask for Alexa, she gave me the greatest bbbj ever. she is a real angel !
hope to read any reaction to this accidents and how to deal with it...
I do not wanna become another aids victim !
thanks
Tom3108
[QUOTE=Tom3108]hi there mungers
went to Punta Cana & Sosua
I will write a report asap.
But I had back luck in sosua.
I picked up a Haiti girl at Classicos, went with her to a cheap hotel around the corner and had a great time.....untill my rubber broke, wich I didnt see before I got my dick out...
I feel very bad about this and do hope this will have no effect on my future...
I didnt come in her luckaly, but anyways its a very bad experience to have.
Does anybody had this before??
One great place to go is La Passion, ask for Alexa, she gave me the greatest bbbj ever. she is a real angel !
hope to read any reaction to this accidents and how to deal with it...
I do not wanna become another aids victim !
thanks
Tom3108[/QUOTE]
Get tested. The HIV numbers are not as high in DR as they are in Haiti so it depends on where she started her activities.... unless you had an open sore on your cock the odds are decent you are okay but get checked.
I know a guy who likes bareback and has screwed well over a hundred women in Sousa area over the last 3 years.... he spends 20 days plus a year there.
And he is still healthy... we finally got him out of the habit.
If you did not give the girl your name and address etc. in the States it would be hard for her to track you down for child support....
[QUOTE=Tom3108]hi there mungers
went to Punta Cana & Sosua
I will write a report asap.
But I had back luck in sosua.
I picked up a Haiti girl at Classicos, went with her to a cheap hotel around the corner and had a great time.....untill my rubber broke, wich I didnt see before I got my dick out...
I feel very bad about this and do hope this will have no effect on my future...
I didnt come in her luckaly, but anyways its a very bad experience to have.
Does anybody had this before??
One great place to go is La Passion, ask for Alexa, she gave me the greatest bbbj ever. she is a real angel !
hope to read any reaction to this accidents and how to deal with it...
I do not wanna become another aids victim !
thanks
Tom3108[/QUOTE]
we've all had our misteps down there...best of luck on the HIV test...which I would get ASAP!
thanks for your comments,
I am getting tested for sure, but I guess I will just have to wait for 3 months or even 6 months to be 100% sure....
Anyway here my report
Arrived on the thursday with a small plane from Punta Cana. Flight takes about 1 hour, very bumpy, even at some time scary when they hit the clouds. It also was fully loaded 6 people + luguage, wich is not a nice feeling... Anyway after a delay of 2 hours we finaly took off and landed safely. Caught a taxi to my hotel, its the Breezes Puerto Plata, just 5 mins away from Sosua center, but its a 10 usd taxi ride per way ! If I ever get thrown out of my country, I will buy a car and get rich beeing a taxi driver in the dom rep. ...
Anyways, after my scary flight I decided that is was time for some action.
I took a cab to hotel Europe and checked out the bars in the streets. There were only very drunk old guys there + the most ugly chicas I ever saw. After some presidentes I decided to call it a day, obviously I was at the wrong end of town....
The next day I did my business untill 4pm and I took some time out to read the forum her eon where to go. Then I realised that I should be in the Classico disco and the La Passion Spa. I took a taxi to La Passion at 5pm.
I had a great choice between 5 or 6 chicas, and I noticed an african looking girl with nice firm body and dreadlocks. She invited me for a full body massage inside, with a happy ending. It was a great experience and she gave me BBBJ including CIM. I paid 1.000 pesos and felt reborn !
In the evening I went to Classico, indeed what a buffet...and what a difference with the sleezy bars at the Europa area...
The real action only started after 1:00 am in the disco, lots of hot chicas there. I guess they sleep all day and come out at night. My negotiating skills didnt help much. I was thinking about you guys who say that even 800 pesos is too much, well I wish you all good luch, but I never got a girl lesser then 1200 pesos. I could very well be that girls find me an ugly bastard and that they raise the price for that, but I never had complaints in the country where I live (lol) Anyway I took out a girl and had a great time for 1200 pesos + 300 for the room. Nothing special and her body was not very nice looking.
One thin I noticed is that a lot of the girls have a lot of fat bellys and slobby tits. And they all have children dont they?? We had a good f**k, nothing special and when I asked her special things , she wouldnt agree (such as sexo con zapatas....)
The next day I had to experience my massage again, and I went back to La Passion. Then Alexa came to me and asked me if I wanted a massage from her. Of course I wanted a massage from her. Let me tell you that girl is worth like 10.000 pesos. She is so good ! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaw !!!
She undresses in a plesant way, plays with you, has the nicest body is very good looking, I would rate her 8 on looks. My guess is that she works out as she is so nicely shaped. She wears hig heels all time and keeps them on for massaging, wich is very sexy looking. and then she finishes of with BBBJ and CIM but she does it in 69 position , and she asks you to play with her clit... I am not sure but I think she even had an orgasm (or she is a very good faker)
This girl is the best ever, honestly. Tried to date her for the evening, but no luck.
In the evening I went to classicos again, where I met my nightmare from Haiti
She was a great f**k, but then my condom broke and fun was over.
A good thing about this, was that she realy started freaking out and was very very scary asking me about 100 times if I was sure that I was not sick. I guess that is a good thing, but still I am very very busy with this.
On the sunday it was time to fly home (Amsterdam). But I made sure that I had one last massage before taking off. La Passion opens at 1pm, and my luck returned as my angel Alexa was there, and I took some time out with her. Damned she is so good. I would love to have a wife like that, for some time at least (lol)....
please see my PUJ report in the PUJ session.
Conclusions :
- I am a frequently travelling man, having lots and lots of chicas all over the world, mostly paying for them, before you start thinking of me that I am the most wanted playboy ....
Sosua is an OK place to hunt for chicas, altough you dont really have to hunt, but by far not the best place in the world. My feeling is that they should have much more massage parlors over there. Or it could also be that I have missed them.....
I also was a bit surprised about all the 50cent motha f**k look a likes..Why do all black guys have to look mean and loud, and look at you like they wanna shoot you? Pff this was disturbing...
I saw a guy he called himself El Diablo, at least 360 stone 7 foot tall, he was really action like he owned the place, my god the chica that ends up with him in the night, she will suffer !
Punta Cana is shit for hunting, nothing there except chicas asking for 100usd per lay, and 5 or 6 /10 chicas asking for 25usd in sleezy bars, wich I went for afterall...
I prefer places like Costa rica, Gambia, Bangkok and Jakarta. But then again I am a lucky sob who gets to see the world and taste it, all at the expense of the company I work for....
Now I all I need to do is go to church and lite a candle every week for my health....
Hasta luego amigos !
How far is Classico disco and the La Passion Spa from Hotel Europa? I will be staying there at the end of May from the 23-29th. I cannot wait to see the different flavors of chicas to choose from.
Also, what is a salida and how does that whole process work with the girls?
[QUOTE=Ykg3000]How far is Classico disco and the La Passion Spa from Hotel Europa? I will be staying there at the end of May from the 23-29th. I cannot wait to see the different flavors of chicas to choose from.
Also, what is a salida and how does that whole process work with the girls?[/QUOTE]
100 yards to Classico from Europa and 300 yards to Passions.... give or take.... under 5 minute walk in either direction.... facing the other side of the street from Europa you go left to Passions... it will be on your right.... Classicos is a right turn from the Europa.... ask the front desk they can point you.... salida is for the house... some places have the girls as part of the bar.... Classicos is not one of them... but some of the other numerous bars do... the waitresses and the bartenders can be had and you pay the house.
Passions has in house and takeout if you take them out you pay the salida... 500 pesos I think... Peter the owner of Passions is a nice guiy and speaks English - he is European.
La Passion Spa is on the other side of the same street as the Hotel Europa going west away from the town. It is small hut like thing with a bar. I would say about 100 yards.
The price for the massage fixed.
Salida is the money you pay the establishment to take out the girl for 2 hours
or whatever the length of time you require. You negotiate with the girl for the services.
My friend took a girl from there and paid 2000 pesos including salida for 2 hours.
Best thing is most of the girls who work there can be seen at classico disco after they finish work. You can pick them up from there avoiding the salida fee. Also if they like you , they will give their phone no. to you.
Tom - you obviously had some bad luck in Sousa... you need to hit the beaches and relax at one of the bars and watch and wait for the right girl.... everyone's tastes are there and virtually every woman is available all you have to do is say "Ola" and they will come to you.
I would have stayed in Sousa not POP.... you could have gone to Ana Mariana's in the other direction from the Playa Delrado complex... hot girls, lesbian shows and inhouse for 1000 pesos and no cabana fee! or pay salida and get one for 2k for all night
Escort King!
I should have known this from the start
anyway thanks for the advice, will use it when I go back , later this year...
have a great w-e
[QUOTE=Sammon]La Passion Spa is on the other side of the same street as the Hotel Europa going west away from the town. It is small hut like thing with a bar. I would say about 100 yards.
The price for the massage fixed.
Salida is the money you pay the establishment to take out the girl for 2 hours
or whatever the length of time you require. You negotiate with the girl for the services.
My friend took a girl from there and paid 2000 pesos including salida for 2 hours.
Best thing is most of the girls who work there can be seen at classico disco after they finish work. You can pick them up from there avoiding the salida fee. Also if they like you , they will give their phone no. to you.[/QUOTE]
Peter moved a little further in the same direction earlier this year
Trying to do some research. One of my friends may want to stay near the casino in Sosua. Can anyone tell me if that's a good location, e.g., near Classicos, Passions, etc? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Randy Tourist]Trying to do some research. One of my friends may want to stay near the casino in Sosua. Can anyone tell me if that's a good location, e.g., near Classicos, Passions, etc? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Everything is close and the 20 peso motoconchos can get you anywhere....
New to Sosua, and DR.
Planning a trip next month, I want a hotel, chica friendly, clean and safe, maybe with a bar that has chicas ,45 to 65$ range. A friend told me the Blue Dolphin???
Recommendations my friends?
Flacoduro1
If you are going to stay in Sousa and it is your first trip - the Europa, Palace and Residential are all good choices for a first time visitor.... prices are decent - they are chica friendly - though Europa and Residential usually limit your chica intake.... after the first one they are known to charge sometimes as much as $15 for the night....
Guy just reported that Europa demanded IDs from all women coming in. I never found that to be true. A girl would give her ID at the desk (which she would get back if she returned under favorable circumstances). That's a pretty good protection for the tenant.
The Europa rents apartments across the street, where there is no check on anyone you bring around. I've never stayed there, but I sorta appreciate the attention the lobby staff cares about the locals you bring around if you stay in the hotel.
I've brought as many as three into the Europa on a single night, and never had a problem at the desk, where their ID cards are checked. That was a year ago, though, and maybe things have changed.
the holding of IDs is a safety thing for you... if they try and run with your stuff... Europa has always been okay with women but they have gotten a little greedy with people who try and bring back more than one and if they can con you get a fee when you try to have a rolving door of women... talk to the girl at the front and you should be okay...
I also heard the night guy tries to shake the girls down for money at Recedential (also on the strip)...
Just returned from my first trip to Sosua, and stayed at the Europa. Never had a problem bringing back more than one girl to the room in a night, as long as they had ID, without it they are not getting in.
During the daytime, the staff doesn't really bother with this policy, but once the sun goes down and the guard shows up, they check them all.
Just a heads up to you guys. There was a girl named Pamala, light skinned, thick with blondish hair, who can speak english when she wants to. She hangs out in front of the Europa, and Classico's, swore to me and my friends that she wasn't a pro, just liked to "hang out" with them. Anyway, my buddy hooks up with her, for a short session one night, and she doesn't charge him.
She comes back the next day they spend some more time together, he feeds her, and walks her to her family's house somewhere in Sosua (I tried to talk him out of it), meets the family, comes back and she spends the night.
The next morning she leaves, he offers her money, and she refuses it. Our plane leaves in four hours and she knows it. According to another a female named Daisy, who works the Europa, This female scammed some americans a week before, by getting the police and telling them She had unprotected sex with these americans, and could be pregnant. The result was the police held these guys up, and they had to pay 2500.00 usc to get out of it.The word was my buddy was next.
Now I'm not sure how true this is, but we didn't stick around to find out, since this girl was waiting out front, and as our taxi pulled up gave my buddy a devilish grin, followed by an ice cold stare( friendly attitude was gone).
[QUOTE=Onexxxva]Just returned from my first trip to Sosua, and stayed at the Europa. Never had a problem bringing back more than one girl to the room in a night, as long as they had ID, without it they are not getting in.
During the daytime, the staff doesn't really bother with this policy, but once the sun goes down and the guard shows up, they check them all.
Just a heads up to you guys. There was a girl named Pamala, light skinned, thick with blondish hair, who can speak english when she wants to. She hangs out in front of the Europa, and Classico's, swore to me and my friends that she wasn't a pro, just liked to "hang out" with them. Anyway, my buddy hooks up with her, for a short session one night, and she doesn't charge him.
She comes back the next day they spend some more time together, he feeds her, and walks her to her family's house somewhere in Sosua (I tried to talk him out of it), meets the family, comes back and she spends the night.
The next morning she leaves, he offers her money, and she refuses it. Our plane leaves in four hours and she knows it. According to another a female named Daisy, who works the Europa, This female scammed some americans a week before, by getting the police and telling them She had unprotected sex with these americans, and could be pregnant. The result was the police held these guys up, and they had to pay 2500.00 usc to get out of it.The word was my buddy was next.
Now I'm not sure how true this is, but we didn't stick around to find out, since this girl was waiting out front, and as our taxi pulled up gave my buddy a devilish grin, followed by an ice cold stare( friendly attitude was gone).[/QUOTE]
Now that is a piece of news .... I will see if I can get a pic of who she is....
Is this the one you are talking about?
There is a woman named Daisy who hangs out at Four Roses, across the street from Europa.
She's about thirty, a bit heavy-set, and speaks perfect English. Is this the one you were writing about?
I know that there are many scams in he DR but this makes no sense.How can she cry that she might be pregnant if they just had sex a few days ago.I'm no expert on the female reproductive system but doesn't that take some time to show up?
Great reports on the DR guys.
I'll be headed there in June. Aye, Artistty I'm still waiting on your post regarding Bahia. That post is dead right now, can you give some info?
Yeah Escort King that's her in the picture, like I said this info came threw Daisy at the Four Roses bar, it could be B.S. just an FYI for you guys to be on the safe side.
Yeah Silver Shadow thats the one, and I admit the whole thing sounded silly from a legal standpoint, but I figured why chance missing a flight to stick around and see. These cops are crooked, and If they are anything like the ones in Tiajuana anything is possible.
Can anyone tell me where I can get a cell phone (with out a monthly contract) in Sosua. I need to make some calls back to the US as soon as I get there. I don't want to have to keep running to the phone center to make calls. I have less than 7 days until my next trip to Sosua and I can hardly wait. I've been in touch with some of the chicas I met there. One claims that things are very slow and that there are not many tourist there. That's a shame but that means more chicas for me. I plan on getting some serious stunners on this trips.
Also I've been thinking of doing a day trip to POP. My friend wants to do a night at blackbeards. What's worth doing? I been to Sosua twice and I like the hunt. Classico is always fun with its large selection of chicas.
Onexxxva,
Tell your boy to leave that trick alone. She is shady as hell. I had to curse her ass out in classico earlier this month. She was telling me that she was not like the other chicas in the club and that she owned her own business and did not want my money. She was running some silly ass game that I did not have time for. Just giving a warning, take it or leave it.
I hear ya Braves, I'll pass the word.
THX
STAY AWAY FROM DAISY! The one on the picture is not her. Daisy is fat, I mean FAT, unattractive, has a deep voice and speaks very good English. Usually, she hangs around Four Roses playing cards. I would not fuck her with a stolen dick. Whatever you do, stay away from her.
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Can anyone tell me where I can get a cell phone (with out a monthly contract) in Sosua. I need to make some calls back to the US as soon as I get there. I don't want to have to keep running to the phone center to make calls. I have less than 7 days until my next trip to Sosua and I can hardly wait. I've been in touch with some of the chicas I met there. One claims that things are very slow and that there are not many tourist there. That's a shame but that means more chicas for me. I plan on getting some serious stunners on this trips.
Also I've been thinking of doing a day trip to POP. My friend wants to do a night at blackbeards. What's worth doing? I been to Sosua twice and I like the hunt. Classico is always fun with its large selection of chicas.[/QUOTE]
if you have a phone that uses a sim card here in the US (from providers like T-mobile etc) that is a triband phone. All you need to do is have it unlocked. It can be done easily for $25US in the States or in the DR in Sosua at the photo shop close across the road from the gas station for $500dr pesos.
Go to the Orange shop I believe it is close to Banko Popular in sosua and get a SIM card. Last time I asked it cost 350pesos. They will need to have a copy of your passport to get this done. They will make the copy for you.
Insert the SIM into the phone that you have buy a card and load it and you are in business. When you are about to go nack to the states. Replace the Orange SIm with your US SIM and you will be just fine.
I have a phone that is dedicated to international travels and I have SIMs from several different countries. You should be fine and just repeat the process when you are about to travel.
Going to Sousa is a few weeks - any recomendations on where to go to pick up local girls who are not imported hookers?
I assume the beach, but looking for names of places where the non-pros hang out.
Thanks
Caribean Communications is across from Europa... the owner Mav is very cool and will help you with whatever you need as far as cell phones or sim cards etc.
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Can anyone tell me where I can get a cell phone (with out a monthly contract) in Sosua. I need to make some calls back to the US as soon as I get there. I don't want to have to keep running to the phone center to make calls. I have less than 7 days until my next trip to Sosua and I can hardly wait. I've been in touch with some of the chicas I met there. One claims that things are very slow and that there are not many tourist there. That's a shame but that means more chicas for me. I plan on getting some serious stunners on this trips.
Also I've been thinking of doing a day trip to POP. My friend wants to do a night at blackbeards. What's worth doing? I been to Sosua twice and I like the hunt. Classico is always fun with its large selection of chicas.[/QUOTE]
There is a large group of guys staying at the Palace from another site starting next weekend... they are like a walking encyclopedia of the north coast of DR... stop by there or try Rocky's any morning for breakfast and you will see them...
Planning a trip in May. Any hotels in Cabarete are girl-friendly? Any that should be definitely avoided?
Piergiorgio in Sosua is girl friendly to my understanding. Anyone disagree?
Thanks!
Go to [url]www.hotelkaoba.com[/url] Rooms for $30 you have to pay a $10 chica fee.I've stayed there twice and really liked it.They will arrange a pickup from the airport for $20.Swiss owned and operated.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Is this the one you are talking about?[/QUOTE]That is hilarious, EK!
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Planning a trip in May. Any hotels in Cabarete are girl-friendly? Any that should be definitely avoided?
Piergiorgio in Sosua is girl friendly to my understanding. Anyone disagree?
Thanks![/QUOTE]The Cita Del Sol is right in the middle of Cabarete and girl friendly. Never had a problem bringing back chicas.
[QUOTE=Patrk39]That is hilarious, EK![/QUOTE]
Funny thing about it is that is the girl I am fairly certain. She has a kid with a regular visiting monger.... though that scam from what I have heard is not unbelievable... though a risky move...
Guys:
Everyone appreciates your photographs, and your stories of the exploits. Please keep them up.
Some girls don't mind their faces being shown - others do. I don't want to "spoil the market" by putting ladies' faces where they don't want them, but having put a few on the Forum, I offer a few suggestions:
Many guys use Photoshop to disguise their ladies. They will put black smudges across their faces, or draw clown masks on them, or simply use some smears to cloud identity.
IMHO - this greatly distracts from the eroticism of the photo. It isn't a hot photo if a girl looks like a freak.
In my recent visits to the DR, I've taken a couple of cheap Halloween masks, and also an inexpensive pair of dark glasses. ALL girls that I have met are willing to be photographed in every position I could dream up, if they were so protected. Some even dropped the requirement toward the end of the evening.
I don't wish to submit a lady to local, national, or international criticism by showing her face to the public. Still, I feel that a photograph - showing everything - is possible, if one takes local consideration in mind.
I personally never had a problem with Daisy. In fact, she has been known to arrange everything for guys that like to come down....everything from hotel, pick-up, the girls, etc. for a reasonable fee.
I never did nor do I ever want to. She is just another decent contact of mine that I have met in the past few years.
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Xyu Na Rilo]STAY AWAY FROM DAISY! The one on the picture is not her. Daisy is fat, I mean FAT, unattractive, has a deep voice and speaks very good English. Usually, she hangs around Four Roses playing cards. I would not fuck her with a stolen dick. Whatever you do, stay away from her.[/QUOTE]
Define a NON-pro. If I understand correctly, one that is not hard core per say, correct? Of course I understand, but do you understand? Sosua is filled with HARD CORE putas....the ones that work the streets that is.
For a not so hard core puta, try driving around the outskirts of Sosua or spend at least 1 month or more in town and hit the discos, the beaches, the stores, the malls in Santiago, and drive around. If you just stick to the Sosua night life, you are bound to grab a chica that just came into town last night looking for the right "opportunity".
You may also want to ask the girls you meet if they have any cousins or friends in Pueto Plata or Santiago that might be interested. It works for me.
Sundays on the beach are GREAT! Walk up and down it and park your ass towards the end of the strip on closer to the Charamicos side. Grab a seat and order a drink and watch all the "possible" talent walk by and make your selection!
My favorite spot at that end is Leo's Banana Restaurant. I have yet to get comfortable at Herman's...aka Siempre Sol, although I hear great things about that spot on the beach.
NOMAD...where are you? I missed you in the disco that night.
Enjoy...
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Dbros9]Going to Sousa is a few weeks - any recomendations on where to go to pick up local girls who are not imported hookers?
I assume the beach, but looking for names of places where the non-pros hang out.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
the pic is supposed to be Pamela... Daisy was the one who told about this happening... unless I have misunderstood....
I was surprised. This is the first trip I have not seen you in the disco or the casino. But it was a short visit, only 5 days. Hung out with Apos alot. Usually at Siempre Sol. Apos met me at the airport and I took him by my apartment. The hit the beach as usual. Heard you were with Brooklyn Beas one day.
I agree with Sundays at the beach. In the past that is where I picked up the best semi-pro chicas was at the beach. Since most Dominicans do not work on Sunday they go to the beach. I call it the "Pussy Parade". La Parada de Chocha! Sabanete is also a good place for non-pro/semi-pro action. Try the disco there.
Nomad
[QUOTE=Mister]Define a NON-pro. If I understand correctly, one that is not hard core per say, correct? Of course I understand, but do you understand? Sosua is filled with HARD CORE putas....the ones that work the streets that is.
For a not so hard core puta, try driving around the outskirts of Sosua or spend at least 1 month or more in town and hit the discos, the beaches, the stores, the malls in Santiago, and drive around. If you just stick to the Sosua night life, you are bound to grab a chica that just came into town last night looking for the right "opportunity".
You may also want to ask the girls you meet if they have any cousins or friends in Pueto Plata or Santiago that might be interested. It works for me.
Sundays on the beach are GREAT! Walk up and down it and park your ass towards the end of the strip on closer to the Charamicos side. Grab a seat and order a drink and watch all the "possible" talent walk by and make your selection!
My favorite spot at that end is Leo's Banana Restaurant. I have yet to get comfortable at Herman's...aka Siempre Sol, although I hear great things about that spot on the beach.
NOMAD...where are you? I missed you in the disco that night.
Enjoy...
MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]
No, Escort King you had the right girl in the pic, but both Xyu Na Rilo and Mister are right about Daisy. She was the one that gave us the tip about Pamala, and was helpful with other chicas, but she is fat and can be bother -some at first.
Since Daisy's name came up recently, I want to report an experience from November 1994:
Returning to the Europa, I made a mistake and had my only bad experience in Sosua. In going to Rocky's, I would always pass Cowgirls, which Ted always called, "the *****house next door". (This word may be scanned by Jackson and deleted, but you will know what it is.) I never saw anyone I thought worth pursuing in there - anyway it was a five-minute walk to the Europa. Instead, I returned to the hotel by my usual route, and just before I even got to the Four Roses/Domino complex, I was hit on by a very determined lady who pressed up against me, and pulled my ass against her, jabbering in Spanish. I did a "no comprende", and she felt for my cock, still talking. She was very good looking, and her name was Maria (not the same Maria I had met earlier). She was giving me a hardon with her fondling, right out on the street, so I suggested we retire to the Europa. She agreed, left her ID at the Europa desk, and we went to the room. As soon as we neared the bed, she dropped to her knees, unzipped my fly, and began to suck my cock as I saw back on the bed. We hadn't even undressed. I said, "quitese su ropas" (one of the few Spanish phrases I knew), and she mumbled something unintelligible around her sucking. The blowjob under those circumstances wasn't really that good, so I stood up, popped loose, zipped up, and said, "No mas".
I gave her $200 RD, and said, "buenos noches". She was angry, and said, "Mas!". I said, "No Mas. Adios." She looked around desperately for something to steal - she grabbed a cigarette pack with two left in it, a pack of TicTacs with only a few left, and reached for my sunglasses. I stopped her and escorted her to the door.
For no reason other than I didn't like her, I washed my cock, and felt better. I had been warned to avoid the aggressive girls, and I guess I had to find that out for myself. Bad attitude, bad service, bad experience.
I went out to again check for the Perseid meteor shower. The moon was full, cutting through the clouds, but it was still too overcast to see any stars.
I walked past Domino's, and heard the familiar "Hey Bay-Bee" from Daisy. She had watched me leave with Maria, and asked me why Maria had returned so soon. I told her. That broke her up. She said Maria had come back to the bar, and told the group that she left because this guy wanted to ficky-ficky without a rubber. Daisy then spoke up, saying, "I know this guy. I've been with this guy. He doesn't like ficky-ficky. He likes blow jobs. You must not give good blow jobs if you're back this soon!"
The ladies at the bar loved it, and Maria left in a rush as they were all laughing at her.
Daisy asked if I would like a REALLY good blow job, and I had to tell her the mood was past. She was unhappy, because she needed some money for dinner. I gave her $300 RD. She was, and is, a nice lady.
Perhaps she is being reasonable with experience mongers, and that of course if you let her “help” you. Whether it is out of convenience, etc; I do not know. However, she will take advantage of inexperience mongers. Especially of those who know no English (my careful observation and small talk from the guys I met there). Another annoying thing, she keeps asking for beer and cigarettes one after another. Anyway, I better be wrong then right, but I doubt it.
p.s. When Diego from Europa is drunk, he is the best, honest source of info.
Taking advantage of the inexperienced tends to happen a lot down in D.R. and for that matter, the rest of the world.
Don't some just have bad habits? Smoking and drinking all the time? Especially the smoking bit....now if a dominican goes through a pack in one day easy, that is about 100 pesos at a bar for a normal pack. Now multiply that by 30 days and you get 3,000 pesos. The same guy doesn't even have 1,000 pesos to pay for his room in Charamicos. Go figure.
Gotta love this country. Live for today, etc.
NOMAD, you've got mail!
See ya when I see you.
MISTER NYC :D
P.s. Diego is a good guy in my book. You are right.
I doubt if too many of the locals are buying cigarettes at the bars.... they can get them a lot cheaper at Super Super or the small bodegas....
A lot of the guys I know are friendly with Daisy....
Have done my share of trips but the crew I usually go with a too loud and aggressive that many of these locals avoid us... go figure.
I will be staying in Cabarete during my upcoming stay in the area but want to hit Classicos at least one or two times. I've read that the action starts pretty late. Is it hard to find cabs that will take me and my chica back to Cabarete at a late hour or pretty easy? What is the going cab rate from Sosua to Cabarete? I prefer a car taxi to a motoconcho. Thanks!
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]I will be staying in Cabarete during my upcoming stay in the area but want to hit Classicos at least one or two times. I've read that the action starts pretty late. Is it hard to find cabs that will take me and my chica back to Cabarete at a late hour or pretty easy? What is the going cab rate from Sosua to Cabarete? I prefer a car taxi to a motoconcho. Thanks![/QUOTE]
The cab will run you about $20 US - DO NOT take a motoconcho you will have kidney damage - plus the ride takes about 15 minutes or more
[QUOTE=Escort King]The cab will run you about $20 US - DO NOT take a motoconcho you will have kidney damage - plus the ride takes about 15 minutes or more[/QUOTE]
I was in DR in January, and it was still about $10 USD to go from Sosua to Cabarete...350 pesos is the usual charge...its easy to get cabs at least going to Cabarete from Sosua at anytime...its harder sometimes from Cabarete...I would just go early to Sosua...have dinner and wait until the action jumps off at about 11:30pm...the peak is generally around 12-1am...but it aint bad early...
The one thing I've noticed with the early birds is they often want to get back out there and score another trick after say a 10pm romp...the reverse is at 1-3am...the chicks start getting hungrier, and you can score a TLN for a better rate as your buying power increases exponentially...especially if she has a crying bambino back at home!
You are right - I was think POP - you can also have the hotel arrange a ride in... even if it costs you extra it is worth it.... waiting 3-4 hours even with dinner means you could be well lubricated by game time
Please excuse this question as it may not be on topic.
im looking to visit a country that has more voluptuous women with extreme big tops than any other feature (don't have to be slim either as long as theyre DDD+). I know brazil got the chicks with heavy bottoms but what about stacked fronts? Is DR the right place, I'll be happy if anyone can point me the right direction.
[QUOTE=Billfaster]Please excuse this question as it may not be on topic.
im looking to visit a country that has more voluptuous women with extreme big tops than any other feature (don't have to be slim either as long as theyre DDD+). I know brazil got the chicks with heavy bottoms but what about stacked fronts? Is DR the right place, I'll be happy if anyone can point me the right direction.[/QUOTE]
Try Medellin Columbia... it is the South American capital for plastic surgery
[QUOTE=Escort King]Try Medellin Columbia... it is the South American capital for plastic surgery[/QUOTE]Thanks King,
Actually I was thinking more natural, not really silicone. Even if they have extra baggage.
[QUOTE=Billfaster]Thanks King,
Actually I was thinking more natural, not really silicone. Even if they have extra baggage.[/QUOTE]
Go to the North Coast.... there are a bunch of women with big racks.... Sousa is good.... and Ana Marian - or Frank's as it is also known in Puerto Plata has a really nice selection... look for Escarletta great natural rack.
Thanks very much for all the helpful advice.
One more question, as part of this trip I will be in Las Terrenas for a few days. Any action at all there? advice of bars where to go? or should I plan on just being a regular tourist?
Thanks!
Sorry guy, I have no clue about this place. I don't even know where it is. I may have passed by it, but wouldn't know. I am more familiar with Puerto Plata, Los Charamicos, Sosua, Gasper Hernandez, Moca, Mao, Licey, and Santiago.
Why Las Terrenas? Nice place to stay?
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Thanks very much for all the helpful advice.
One more question, as part of this trip I will be in Las Terrenas for a few days. Any action at all there? advice of bars where to go? or should I plan on just being a regular tourist?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Las Terrenas is a good place to go to get away from the pros.
A European ex-apt community means there is a European influence in the area (restaurants, bakery for breakfast, etc).
Whale watching, Limon waterfalls, nice beaches, etc.
Really only one disco in town.
A good place to bring a chica/date for the weekend, or look for a non-pro.
Be very careful of the road into Las Terrenas!
Over a steep mountain, single lanes, with loco local drivers.
Be careful, -or get a ride!
Yanqui69
[QUOTE=BadbadHombre]Thanks very much for all the helpful advice.
One more question, as part of this trip I will be in Las Terrenas for a few days. Any action at all there? advice of bars where to go? or should I plan on just being a regular tourist?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
delta offers customers more of the caribbean with first-ever service to puerto plata, dominican republic
fourth dominican destination supports delta’s goal to become the no. 2 u.s. carrier to caribbean and latin america
atlanta, may 1, 2006 – continuing the largest expansion to latin america and the caribbean in its history, delta air lines will expand to four the number of non-stop destinations served on one of the caribbean’s most enchanting islands with the addition of service between atlanta and puerto plata, dominican republic, effective dec. 15, 2006*. the new service, which will be operated in the peak season with delta’s 150-seat boeing 737-800 aircraft, will complement existing service from three other dominican destinations to the united states, including daily flights between atlanta and santo domingo and punta cana, and between new york-jfk and santo domingo and santiago.
delta chief operating officer jim whitehurst today announced the route during a speech to latin american and caribbean airline leaders gathered at the 14th annual international airline ceo conference in miami.
said whitehurst, “by 2007, delta firmly intends to become the no. 2 carrier to latin america and the caribbean among u.s. carriers. delta already holds a strong no. 2 position to deep south america, and we’re quickly closing the gap in central america and the caribbean. never has there been a better time to grow service in this vibrant region of the world and to offer our customers more choices to experience the beauty, warmth and growing centers of tourism and commerce throughout the caribbean.”
puerto plata’s more than 1850 square kilometers exhibit the region’s agricultural products of rice, coffee, rum and tobacco combined with beautiful hotels, resorts and shopping opportunities. the city offers everything from rest and relaxation to some of the caribbean’s best windsurfing. history buffs can rent a taxi just 20 miles up the coast to the long-abandoned settlement at la isabel, a national treasure where christopher columbus landed during his second trip in 1494.
delta customers traveling between dominican republic and the airline’s largest hub in atlanta will have access to one of the world’s most extensive schedule of connecting flights, making it convenient to connect to the dominican republic from most any corner of the globe. from atlanta, delta and the delta connection carriers will offer customers non-stop service to nearly 230 worldwide destinations aboard more than 1,000 peak-day flights with the summer 2006 schedule. delta’s new flights between atlanta and puerto plata, which are now available for sale to customers at delta.com, will operate as follows:
delta’s new daily non-stop service between atlanta and puerto plata, effective december 15:
flight departs arrives
256 atlanta at 11:05 am puerto plata at 3:12 pm
257 puerto plata at 4:14 pm atlanta at 8:40 pm
delta’s expanded non-stop service between atlanta and dominican republic is the latest in a series of nearly 40 new routes to latin america and the caribbean added or announced by delta in the last year as part of the largest international expansion in the airline’s history. in the last three months, delta has begun service to new non-stop destinations including acapulco, merida, and zihuatanejo/ixtapa mexico, and san pedro sula and roatan, honduras from atlanta; los cabos, mexico from cincinnati; mazatlan, mexico from salt lake city; puerto vallarta and acapulco, mexico from new york jfk; and zihuatanejo/ixtapa from los angeles.
delta air lines (other otc: dalrq) is one of the world’s fastest growing international carriers with more than 50 new international routes added or announced in the last year. delta offers flights to 452 destinations in 95 countries on delta, song, delta shuttle, the delta connection carriers and its worldwide partners. in summer 2006, delta plans to offer customers more destinations and departures between the u.s., europe, india and israel than any global airline**, including service on 11 new transatlantic routes from its atlanta and new york-jfk hubs. delta also is a major carrier to mexico, south and central america and the caribbean, with more than 35 routes announced, added or applied to serve since jan. 1, 2005. delta's marketing alliances also allow customers to earn and redeem skymiles on more than 14,000 flights offered by skyteam and other partners. delta is a founding member of skyteam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes and check flight status at delta.com.
*subject to foreign government approval.
**from the u.s., based on july 2006 oag.
a portion of travel for some itineraries may be on the delta connection carriers: atlantic southeast airlines, chautauqua, comair or shuttle america.
Does anybody know about this town called Moca? It was a town we went through leaving Sousa going to the Capitol. I believe it was right after going through the mountains. I seen so many beautiful woman there as if it was a tourist town. When I asked the taxi driver he said that there where no hotels in the town. Well he said that you could probably find one but basically it wasn't a tourist town. Beautiful chicas walking and on the back of moto counchos, I mean just like you would see in Boca Chica or Sosua. Does anyone have any experience with this town. I would have loved to say in that town but it not being a tourist area I am a little skeptical.
Can Anyone Advise On Any Places To Rent Cars For A Reasonable Price In Santo Domingo--preferably From The Sdq Airport? I Plan On Flying In To Sdq And Then Driving To Sosua For A 4 Night Stay. If Not, Any Car Rentals In Sosua? I Prefer A Car Since I've Heard That Renting A Scooter Is Not A Good Idea Over There. Thnx.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
Moca is an example of one of the prime locations in the DR for beautiful women. That's if you like them lighter skinned, long straight hair etc ... the Spanish vs the African influence. Always has been one of my favorite spots, especially because it is not a touristy place at all. Helps if you live here in the DR and can cultivate relationships. Otherwise, there is a reason places like Sosua, Boca Chica and, to a lesser extent, Santo Domingo, serve as the main tourist pickup locations. Geared to tourist trade. But, boy, can you find hidden gems in places like Moca, Mao, Constanza etc.
MrP
[QUOTE=Doe Boy]Does anybody know about this town called Moca? It was a town we went through leaving Sousa going to the Capitol. I believe it was right after going through the mountains. I seen so many beautiful woman there as if it was a tourist town. When I asked the taxi driver he said that there where no hotels in the town. Well he said that you could probably find one but basically it wasn't a tourist town. Beautiful chicas walking and on the back of moto counchos, I mean just like you would see in Boca Chica or Sosua. Does anyone have any experience with this town. I would have loved to say in that town but it not being a tourist area I am a little skeptical.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Common Sense]Can Anyone Advise On Any Places To Rent Cars For A Reasonable Price In Santo Domingo--preferably From The Sdq Airport? I Plan On Flying In To Sdq And Then Driving To Sosua For A 4 Night Stay. If Not, Any Car Rentals In Sosua? I Prefer A Car Since I've Heard That Renting A Scooter Is Not A Good Idea Over There. Thnx.
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
There is a pile of car rentals at the POP airport - have not been to SD but imagine there is some there too.
[QUOTE=Common Sense]Can Anyone Advise On Any Places To Rent Cars For A Reasonable Price In Santo Domingo--preferably From The Sdq Airport? I Plan On Flying In To Sdq And Then Driving To Sosua For A 4 Night Stay. If Not, Any Car Rentals In Sosua? I Prefer A Car Since I've Heard That Renting A Scooter Is Not A Good Idea Over There. Thnx.
[/QUOTE]
C.S.,
I'd just rent from the SDQ airport. I would go on any of the major car rental company websites (AVIS, HERTZ, etc)) and do a search using pick up at the SDQ airport as an option. Charge it on a credit card where you have extra insurance in case your car gets wrecked or stolen. Not saying that this will happen, but take it from me, driving down in D.R. is always defensive driving in some parts more than others. Better safe then sorry. For example, my new Master Card Business has $50,000USD coverage on all car rentals.
Enjoy and take some pics!
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Doe Boy]Does anybody know about this town called Moca? It was a town we went through leaving Sousa going to the Capitol. I believe it was right after going through the mountains. I seen so many beautiful woman there as if it was a tourist town. When I asked the taxi driver he said that there where no hotels in the town. Well he said that you could probably find one but basically it wasn't a tourist town. Beautiful chicas walking and on the back of moto counchos, I mean just like you would see in Boca Chica or Sosua. Does anyone have any experience with this town. I would have loved to say in that town but it not being a tourist area I am a little skeptical.[/QUOTE]Try "Very Well Rent a Car" They are right at the entrance to the airport and are much less expensive that the bigger names. The guy's name is Daniel David, speaks English. His phone # is 809-549-8224 or 809-924-2774.
Thanks for the info guys regarding car rentals in Sosua. I plan on heading there in June and plan on taking lots of photos. I've heard that certain months can be slow in this small town in terms of available women, but I hope June isn't one of them. Can anyone advise on this? Also, I know that Classico and Club X are the most popular spots, but is Sea-Crets rocking now? Finally, is there any good bars on the beach in the daytime where action can be found? Thnx once again.
[QUOTE=Common Sense]Thanks for the info guys regarding car rentals in Sosua. I plan on heading there in June and plan on taking lots of photos. I've heard that certain months can be slow in this small town in terms of available women, but I hope June isn't one of them. Can anyone advise on this? Also, I know that Classico and Club X are the most popular spots, but is Sea-Crets rocking now? Finally, is there any good bars on the beach in the daytime where action can be found? Thnx once again.[/QUOTE]
June is just fine for anyone with a watchful eye. I would say x-mas and new years are the slowest.
I always found Sea-Crets to be a place to go when you already have a girl. The place is la tad bit lighter on your pockets for drinks and the seats are real comfortable in the back inside. You will notice that a handful of girls go by the place early and that everyone ends up at Classico by 1 or 1:30am.
As far as beach bars...I can't really say. Maybe someone else can provide the intel. I normally just plant my ass on the Charamicos side after walking all the way down from the Sosua entrance and watch them come in one by one around 2-3pm. I prefer Leo's Banana restaurant down on that side while others prefer Siempre Sol.
Other than this, walk on the beach and maybe ask your beach chair guy to call some over for you.
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Common Sense]Thanks for the info guys regarding car rentals in Sosua. I plan on heading there in June and plan on taking lots of photos. I've heard that certain months can be slow in this small town in terms of available women, but I hope June isn't one of them. Can anyone advise on this? Also, I know that Classico and Club X are the most popular spots, but is Sea-Crets rocking now? Finally, is there any good bars on the beach in the daytime where action can be found? Thnx once again.[/QUOTE]
Sempre Sol is a great spot... say hello to Herman - and the girls parade by so you will have fun.
I have a question that I don't think has been answered:
Do ya'll ever give em US money or do you always change it out?
Also where is the best places to get Pesos? Do they have ATM's all about?
I sometimes give them dollars...just depends on the convenience factor for me. For example, if all you have is dollars and it is time for her to go and you do not want to get up and go with her to change money, well, guess what she gets.
99% of the time, pesos are given.
I change money at Duarte's Exchange Bank usually. It is on the street going up towards Banco Popular from Pluto's Bar (it will be on the right hand side next to a lingerie /bikini/travel shop). If it's big money, I always call the banks first and the other money dealers.
Yes, you can use the ATMs. I normally use Scotiabank, Progresso, and at times Banco Popular's. You will see the first two along the main strip, Pedro Clisante. Just make sure everything looks safe before you put your card in. Make sure no wires are sticking out or no funning gizmos are sticking out of the card reader or are in them, etc.
Enjoy!
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Caramel Me 13]I have a question that I don't think has been answered:
Do ya'll ever give em US money or do you always change it out?
Also where is the best places to get Pesos? Do they have ATM's all about?[/QUOTE]
Bring some cash and chage it at one of the changing houses.... try [url]www.gocurrency.com[/url] for the rate just before you go... they also have a printable cheatsheet that helps.
The ATMs give a fair rate but they can go down....
Those ATM machines have extra fees, that you won't see until get back home and get your statement, depending on the card you use.
[QUOTE=Onexxxva]Those ATM machines have extra fees, that you won't see until get back home and get your statement, depending on the card you use.[/QUOTE]
I really was not getting hammered... hell some of the ATMs in NY are charging me $2 plus a use....
I just got back from a 5 day trip to Sosua 2 weeks ago. I had a great time and hopefully I will get my lazy ass to report on all of the nice chicas that I met. But for this report I thought I'd shed some light on a subject that I have not seen mention in any forum.
Fellas you have to sometimes be careful of the monger "friends" that you met in the DR. This is my 3rd trip to Sosua and I have always met great guys who shared tons of knowledge with me. This trip I ran into a few good and a few who just don't understand how things work. I made the mistake of showing a few of my new found monger buddies some photos that were still on the digital camera that I had with me. Of course they recognized some of the chicas in the photo since they had been to the DR 4 or 5 times more than I had. We laughed and joke and I told them how 2 of the chicas were good friends of mine and they don't charge me anything.
The next day the idiot from the NYPD had to tell one of my Chicas that I showed him the pictures of her. Needless to say, she was very angry and just could not understand why I would show such picture when she was treating me like I was her novio. I couldn't believe I bullshitted my way out of that one. But It was undo stress. Cheap pussy is good but free pussy is alway better. I didn't want to loose mine.
Word to masses. There is a thing called discretion. It exist even in the DR. Don't be a Hater because one monger has it better than you. Don't hate, congratulate. And people wonder why I don't post my photo here on this forum. It is because too many idiots run back to the DR and tell the girls that they saw her photo on the internet. It is becoming very hard to take a girls picture fully clothed, without her being scared about it showing up on the net.
Let's work together on this. So we can continue to share knowledge, stories, and pics. That's what this forum is all about. Sermon over!! I'm out.
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]...I thought I'd shed some light on a subject that I have not seen mention in any forum....
The next day the idiot from the NYPD had to tell one of my Chicas that I showed him the pictures of her. Needless to say, she was very angry and just could not understand why I would show such picture when she was treating me like I was her novio. I couldn't believe I bullshitted my way out of that one. But It was undo stress. Cheap pussy is good but free pussy is alway better. I didn't want to loose mine.
Word to masses. There is a thing called discretion. It exist even in the DR. Don't be a Hater because one monger has it better than you. Don't hate, congratulate. And people wonder why I don't post my photo here on this forum. It is because too many idiots run back to the DR and tell the girls that they saw her photo on the internet. It is becoming very hard to take a girls picture fully clothed, without her being scared about it showing up on the net.
....[/QUOTE]
So damn true! I used to share all my pics and stories and now I do not because someone always says something to the chica.
Those boys in blue, eh? Oh well,,, the rat could have been any one.
As he put it "Don't hate, congratulate."
Enough said.
MISTER NYC :D
I agree it seems many people leave their common sense at home and behave like really little kids.... at what grade do you stop this sort of crap?
Lefthand drops, or even the "why does he get it when I can't - blow up the spot" statements etc. are all crazy....
Hi everyone!
My trip is next week and I need to know how far is Santo Domingo from Sosua. My arrival flight to Puerto Plata had to be changed to Santo Domingo. How much time do you think it takes to go from Santo Domingo to Sosua?
[QUOTE=Ykg3000]Hi everyone!
My trip is next week and I need to know how far is Santo Domingo from Sosua. My arrival flight to Puerto Plata had to be changed to Santo Domingo. How much time do you think it takes to go from Santo Domingo to Sosua?[/QUOTE]
Renting a car? Bus? Plane?
Taxi would be hundreds..... bus will take about 4 plus hours.
Metro Tours (phone: +1 809-566-7126)
* From Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata
o Cost: RD $215
o Route: Santo Domingo - Santiago - Puerto Plata
o Departure Schedule: 7am, 9am, 11am, 2pm, 4pm, 7pm.
Terra Bus
* From Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata
o Cost: ?
o Route: Santo Domingo - Santiago - Puerto Plata
o Hours of departure: 6:30 am-10:30 am-12:30 pm-4:30 pm-7:45 pm
Caribe Tours (phone: +1 809-221-442).
* From Santo Domingo to Sosua
o Cost: RD $250
o Route: Santo Domingo - La Vega - Santiago - Puerto Plata - Sosua
o Departure Schedule: 6:00am, 7:00am, 8:00am, 9:00am, 10:00am, 11:00am, 12:00noon, 1:00pm, 2:00pm, 3:00pm, 4:00pm, 5:00pm, 6:00pm
Hey Fellas
I like to thank all for your infos when I go to my trip 5/24-5/28 to Sosua.1st I hope to get pics,But by reading some reports the girls migth not take pics unless you pay them,and cover their Face.My ? is 1200 peso for 2-4 hour and 2400 peso for all nigth,is this a good price for the girls?
2nd: Should I have about 6450 peso(200.00 us $$)lock up in the safe in my room for the girls.
3rd: Should I carry 50.00 us dollar in 1 dollar bills when I go to the club?and whoever take them let then exchange the us dollar theirself?
4th: I would like to go to a very nice waterfalls(for my PEACE of Mind) are there any suggestion?
PS ALL of your Respond has been VERY VERY HELPFUL and if there any last min comment feel free to comment.
You'll have a safe trip.
Hey Man,
What I will write can vary and is only based on what I have heard or seen...
1. 1000 pesos for short time meaning 1 hour-1.5hr can be done. It can also be done for 1,500 pesos. Don't nickel and dime them if you have a great time, but don't spoil them either. The balance is key and communication prior to the visit is more key. As for all night, some will be happy with 2,000 pesos while others might want 2,500 pesos. All night is simply from the time you leave the disco to breakfast time. Most of those hours are spent fast asleep with sometimes a lovely stranger....sometimes not so nice. Be particular and go with instinct and recommendations if you can.
2. Plan as you wish. Some like a nice session each afternoon and again each night. Some like 2-3 in the day and none at night. Plan accordingly. Shit, have two at the same time your first or last night.
3. Nah, I would carry $50USD in fives for quick tips at the airport if you let anyone help you with luggage and to pay for the $10 tourist card quickly. I would also carry a decent amount of small bills in pesos; 20s, 50s, and 100s. More 20s and 50s for tips to the waiters, bar staff, and motoconcho money.
4. All i know is Jarabacoa and that is about 2 hours away from Sosua. Day trips are done through some tour companies in town. Check them out. They also offer white water rafting, 4-wheeling, and horse back riding. The horse back riding will take you to the water falls while in Jarabacoa. It's nice. I forget how much it costs. Your other option is to spend a night or two there with your favorite chica. You'll also see a lot of fine cuties.
FYI: Don't give any girl your number in the states. She will call you and be nice and may one day ask for the payoff for some make believe story or call you every time she has some financial trouble.
Enjoy!
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Man Can Bang]Hey Fellas
I like to thank all for your infos when I go to my trip 5/24-5/28 to Sosua.1st I hope to get pics,But by reading some reports the girls migth not take pics unless you pay them,and cover their Face.My ? is 1200 peso for 2-4 hour and 2400 peso for all nigth,is this a good price for the girls?
2nd: Should I have about 6450 peso(200.00 us $$)lock up in the safe in my room for the girls.
3rd: Should I carry 50.00 us dollar in 1 dollar bills when I go to the club?and whoever take them let then exchange the us dollar theirself?
4th: I would like to go to a very nice waterfalls(for my PEACE of Mind) are there any suggestion?
PS ALL of your Respond has been VERY VERY HELPFUL and if there any last min comment feel free to comment.
You'll have a safe trip.[/QUOTE]
Outside of Europa any other hotels worthwhile in Sousa?
[QUOTE=Mose]Outside of Europa any other hotels worthwhile in Sousa?[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you are looking for .... Resential is chica friendly, the Palace is good.... very low end but handy is Rocky's
In Boca Chica I thought El Candil was a good choice, any thing similiar in Sousa
If you liked El Candil in BC, you'll most likely be happy with the Europa in Sosua. They are not exactly the same, but near enough as makes little difference for our purposes. I stay at both, respectively, in the two places.
If you are looking for a place in Sosua, my advice is don't stay at Rocky's Bar. The place is a shit hole very bad rooms, dirty, lots of muskito's, very noisy too, I heard moto conchos all night racing by
Stay at Rromanov or Europe
[QUOTE=Taur55]If you are looking for a place in Sosua, my advice is don't stay at Rocky's Bar. The place is a shit hole very bad rooms, dirty, lots of muskito's, very noisy too, I heard moto conchos all night racing by
Stay at Rromanov or Europe[/QUOTE]Going to have to disagree with you there Taur55. Just came back from spending two weeks in one of Rocky's rooms. No. 3 to be exact. Granted the rooms are very basic, but what do you want for $20 a day. The rooms are cleaned everyday. The place is super central, and you can bring back chicas anytime. Mosquito's and noisey motoconchos, you'll be hardpressed to find a place in Sosua that you will be free from those pesky things. Food is always good at Rocky's also.
I usually stay at the Tradewinds condos when I'm there, but the last time I tried Rocky's bar itself, and I found the place OK.
Taur55,
Plus I forgot, you get free wireless internet in these basic rooms at Rockys.
[QUOTE=EZ Pilot]Going to have to disagree with you there Taur55. Just came back from spending two weeks in one of Rocky's rooms. No. 3 to be exact. Granted the rooms are very basic, but what do you want for $20 a day. The rooms are cleaned everyday. The place is super central, and you can bring back chicas anytime. Mosquito's and noisey motoconchos, you'll be hardpressed to find a place in Sosua that you will be free from those pesky things. Food is always good at Rocky's also.
I usually stay at the Tradewinds condos when I'm there, but the last time I tried Rocky's bar itself, and I found the place OK.[/QUOTE]
I like the food at Rockys, and the owner is a cool guy but, there is no way in hell I would ever stay in one of those rooms ! We all have our standards and those rooms are well below mine. I rent villas and I never had any mosquito problem, EVER !
I do some property management in Sosua and have private apartments and villas available. The flying pests always come and go and especially when you leave the window or door open. I always recommend to bring a can of OFF.
You'll even get bit by the little bitty ones at the beach or while sitting at a bar. It's the tropics!
Rocky's is nice too for the budget minded traveler, but you always have trade offs when you decide to rent on the lower end of the scale. The location is great, the food is pretty good too, but the rooms are small, etc, etc. etc. Trade offs do exist. Expect them in life.
If anyone is interested in a different place to stay, you can check out the link I added in the Sosua classifieds section - it is post #3 in that thread.
And to our veterans, you will never be forgotten!
Best Wishes,
MISTER NYC :D
Hey Mr NYC...
When are you heading back to DR?
Peace:
WSJ3
:)
[QUOTE=Mister]I do some property management in Sosua and have private apartments and villas available. The flying pests always come and go and especially when you leave the window or door open. I always recommend to bring a can of OFF.
You'll even get bit by the little bitty ones at the beach or while sitting at a bar. It's the tropics!
Rocky's is nice too for the budget minded traveler, but you always have trade offs when you decide to rent on the lower end of the scale. The location is great, the food is pretty good too, but the rooms are small, etc, etc. etc. Trade offs do exist. Expect them in life.
If anyone is interested in a different place to stay, you can check out the link I added in the Sosua classifieds section - it is post #3 in that thread.
And to our veterans, you will never be forgotten!
Best Wishes,
MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]
Damn.... I don't know. I was hoping by mid-late June for a few weeks. I'll know more the end of this week.
How about you?
MISTER NYC :D
I'm a middle-aged, relatively experienced monger in the world (Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Thailand) and have been to the DR 2X. I'll be in Sosua in July. Point is that I like the darker girls who come from Haiti.
Question: Has anyone here ever rented a car and driven toward Haiti in search of sweet chocolate in the smaller, less traveled border towns of the DR and Haiti? Are the border towns OFF LIMITS? Or are there some that can accomodate a single white traveler?
Love to know if there's any experience with that here.
Thanks for your help!
#2128
[QUOTE=Member #2128]I'm a middle-aged, relatively experienced monger in the world (Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Thailand) and have been to the DR 2X. I'll be in Sosua in July. Point is that I like the darker girls who come from Haiti.
Question: Has anyone here ever rented a car and driven toward Haiti in search of sweet chocolate in the smaller, less traveled border towns of the DR and Haiti? Are the border towns OFF LIMITS? Or are there some that can accomodate a single white traveler?
Love to know if there's any experience with that here.
Thanks for your help!
#2128[/QUOTE]
Haiti can be a little hairy.... there are plety of dark skinned chicas in Sousa/Puerto Plata .... know a few guys who have done the small towns - seems like too much work for me....
Can any of you point me to a site that gives the best rates for DR? I'm trying to go in June. Any info will be appreciated. Also is it possible to get a rate below $500, I don't want to spend all the dough on just getting there.
[QUOTE=Caramel Me 13]Can any of you point me to a site that gives the best rates for DR? I'm trying to go in June. Any info will be appreciated. Also is it possible to get a rate below $500, I don't want to spend all the dough on just getting there.[/QUOTE]
What area would you be flying from?
For example, those who live in NYC, like to choose JetBlue because the flights are sometimes like around $300 round trip with all taxes and fees included. However, the downside, if you can call it that, is that you must fly a red eye in/out.
MISTER NYC :D
P.s. I hope to fly out again sometime in June as well.
Hey, thanks for your response.
To clairify---I wasn't thinking of actually going into Haiti, but just driving by car more toward the border, but DEFINITELY staying inside the DR. I thought there may be some of you with experience in some of the barrios along the way.
I've enjoyed the dark women of Sosua in the past, but it's the spirit of adventure that moves me for my next trip in July. And to get away from the cold-eyed, totally mercenary and mechanical encounter that feels like such a waste of money when it's over. I'm strictly P4P, but think I would enjoy those semi-pro mamis who might be less into the Sosua grind and norteamericano con-game. I was thinking that it might be available somewhere in the barrios out in the campo, nearer to Haiti, where they see less touristas and have less opportunity to make the big easy money.
Just a pipe-dream? ;-=)
If anyone has actually tried this, I'd love to hear about it. BTW, I do speak a minimal, but effective high school Spanish.
Thanks, #2128
The farther you get from places that have a lot of tourists the less likely you wil find any P4P. With the malaria risk and the general shittyness around the Haiti border this sounds like a bad idea for a few reasons.
Minimal high school Spanish won't allow you much opportunity to hit on real girls either. Although the time and effort required is probably not worth it.
If you want to see beautiful girls and wow them with your words of amor try Moca and the Cibao valley.
See! I can speak Spanish!
Just busting your chops Gran Pollo! I do appreciate the "head's up" about the malaria infested Haitian border.
I guess I'll take my sense of adventure elsewhere. I saw some intell on DR1 in the other direction, toward Terrenas, a smaller Dominican tourist town of NAGUA. It said there was a healthy P4P scene and beachfront hotels. However, the information was real old (2002). Anyone been there, done that?
Ever heard of the town? I don't think it's been discussed here before.
Like I said, I've been to Sosua and had my fun there---enough so that I'm heading back in July, but I'd really like to expand my horizons this time around. I've been overnight to PP---the Long Beach area, the 3000 peso rip-off places like Crystals and the little bars along and around the Malecon. I also went into downtown with a driver who showed me around to a bunch of the outdoor Domincan dancing bars where the typical available girls looked thick, raw and rough. The gems were few and far between, mostly just walking around on the streets and hard to pursue.
So, we have NAGUA? Any other spots within striking distance of Sosua where a monger might score? There is also the "town" right past the town beach in Sosua where the Dominicans live, right? The name escapes me right now, but is that a reasonable hunting ground?
BTW, I'll do my best to report on all this when I return at the end of July...
#2128
If you could speak Spanish you'd remember grande or gran BEFORE a noun means great. Grande after is big.
Near Sosua with your great Spanish, Moca, Santiago. There should be posts here about both if you search. Moca or other Cibao locations you won't find P4P but you will find some of the best looking women in this hemisphere.
LOL. Yeah, I guess I don't speak good, the Spanish...I do know, however, that when a chica says "Dos mil", I reply with "Una mil", or if I'm feeling real cocky, or ready to call it a night, "Cinentos". Or, something that sounds kinda like that! So much for "las palabras de amor".
I really appreciate your suggestions (and your Spanish lesson!) and the fact that you're willing to share your greater experience. I'll check out Moca and the other place you suggested. However, as an older guy, it might just end up being a "sight-seeing" visit.
Thanks for your help now...and in your past posts as well.
You are the Great Chicken!
#2128
[QUOTE=Member #2128]See! I can speak Spanish!
So, we have NAGUA? Any other spots within striking distance of Sosua where a monger might score? There is also the "town" right past the town beach in Sosua where the Dominicans live, right? The name escapes me right now, but is that a reasonable hunting ground?
BTW, I'll do my best to report on all this when I return at the end of July...
#2128[/QUOTE]
Last time I was in Sosua, some guys spent a few days driving out to Nagua and back...they loved it. It wasnt the overwhelming scene that Sosua is, but there were some options according to them...and less commercial/shallow...Sosua has become a meat market and that gets kinda old...NOT!
But if you're up for a haul...I'd definitely check out Nagua or even Samana...its beautiful at the least...and there is p*ssy everywhere in this country!
Thanks Monger 3! I'm encouraged. A few days here, a few days there, always adds up to a more interesting trip.
I plan to be in and around Sosua for 10 days. I'll check out NAGUA as well and post a report (late July).
#2128
[QUOTE=Member #2128]Point is that I like the darker girls who come from Haiti. Question: Has anyone here ever rented a car and driven toward Haiti in search of sweet chocolate in the smaller, less traveled border towns of the DR and Haiti?
#2128[/QUOTE]Hi Member#2128,
I share your taste in chicas. On my two previous trips to the DR I have generally got the best fucks for my bucks from Haitians. I will be staying in the PP area throughout July and longer. One of my ambitions this trip is to visit Monte Christi (on the Haitian border) and, if I feel really adventurous, Dajabon (also on the border and a bit more "Wild West"). No way would I visit the latter without a wingman. And crossing the border into Haiti is out of the question for me because plan A is not to do the chicas on the spot but take one (or two) back to PP for two or three days or whatever. I would not risk wandering around any smaller centres and therefore there is no need to rent a car. (The thought of driving in the DR makes me nervous). If I do it at all it will be by bus, safer and cheaper.
[QUOTE=Member #2128]BTW, I do speak a minimal, but effective high school Spanish.[/QUOTE]If you want to chat up Haitians you would be better off having a minimal, but effective high school French. Do you? That was another reason I hit if off better with the Haitian girls. I learned French at school (albeit when the world was young) but I can't speak a work of Spanish (other than "propina" and "regalo" which I acquired during my first days in the DR through constant repetition).
I need the phone number.
Help please.
[url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/plaza-seiten/plazaeuropa-titel-engl.html[/url]
1 809 571 3335 or 571 3479
Note: It is NOT a toll-free number.
In advance I thank you for any information you can provide me on the names of bars/nightclubs that have air conditioning in Sosua. I am a regular to el capital Santo Domingo and to Boca Chica, but I will be making my first trip to Sosua on the 29th of June. I enjoy the nightlife but definitely need air conditioning after spending the day time hours at the beach.
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo][url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/plaza-seiten/plazaeuropa-titel-engl.html[/url]
1 809 571 3335 or 571 3479
Note: It is NOT a toll-free number.[/QUOTE]
lol... got it before me
[url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/index.html[/url]
Me and my buddy are heading to Sosua possibly for 3 days in July. Will it be very quiet? Also, are there any suanas which can be rented out in the area, that allow for girls?
[QUOTE=Straight Shooter]In advance I thank you for any information you can provide me on the names of bars/nightclubs that have air conditioning in Sosua. I am a regular to el capital Santo Domingo and to Boca Chica, but I will be making my first trip to Sosua on the 29th of June. I enjoy the nightlife but definitely need air conditioning after spending the day time hours at the beach.[/QUOTE]Classico & Club X on the strip both have a/c.
Just returned from another three days in Sosua. Had a great time, as always.
I flew in directly from Providenciales, Turks and Caicos where I spent four days diving. The diving was spectacular but the night life was non-existent; I pretty much knew that when I made travel plans. For you divers, there is diving in the Sosua area but it is sort of lousy, although I did a magnificent dive on a shipwreck in about 100 ft that was great.
I stayed at the Plaza Europa....made a reservation on the internet with Diego, the owner. (Super great guy). I've stayed in the hotel rooms before but tried one of his apartments this time....turned out to be an excellent choice. Pretty much the same amenities, although the AC is not as powerful and cold, but good ceiling fans and very comfortable in every way. Same daily housekeeping service, towels, room safe, etc. The advantage is less scrutiny, at least during the day. There is an armed guard out in front of the gate at night, who I befriended on day one with a few pesos, but during most of the day it is pretty much wide open. Some of the local ladies still do not have ID's with them all the time and so this minimizes this hassle, while still affording the security that is nice to have after sunset.
It is definitely a quiet time in Sosua, but no problem finding chicas in all the usual places; on the beach, at the bars, strolling the streets. I even ran into a few of my old regulars from past trips.....and enjoyed their company again. My Spanish improves slightly with each trip and I am becoming a better negotiator. Many of the girls still shoot for the moon at first, asking up to dos mil (2000 RD) which is, of course, absurd, but most will take 1000 esp if you hold out some promise of a propina (tip) for excellent service or, for me, dos veces (two times).
A technique: almost all the girls want to watch TV during the act. At first I didn't like this, as they seemed to watch it to my exclusion, but actually if they were enjoying themselves watching some program they would let me carry on for longer than normal; so I just offered them the remote and let them have at it!! I would just accomodate them and let them watch while doing doggy or if they were giving me BBBJ; it all works for me!!!
I will try to post a couple new pics in the photo gallery....most of the girls were somewhat reluctant and had apparently become wise to mongers posting pics on the internet, so I will look at what I have and post accordingly.
Overall, another excellent sojourn to the DR....I will return, and thanks to all who have posted previously for my benefit.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]Classico & Club X on the strip both have a/c.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information on Club X and Classico but I would like more information on the other bars that are located in the area of Europa as far as air conditioning goes. As I stated in my previous post after spending the day in the hot sun, I welcome being in the air conditioning at night, especially so when I like to wear nice clothes to go partying in the evening. Nothing is worse than being dressed nice and then being soaked in sweat!. I am sure many of you can relate. Thank you again in advance.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]Classico & Club X on the strip both have a/c.[/QUOTE]
Funny I never noticed the hunidity is outrageous during the summer... hence the low season... but there are so many driven into the towns to grab some pesos that the selections can be good... and there are plenty....
have fun.... and bring hand towels... they are a national flag in the DR during the summer and beyond...........
[QUOTE=Rocco 55]Me and my buddy are heading to Sosua possibly for 3 days in July. Will it be very quiet? Also, are there any suanas which can be rented out in the area, that allow for girls?[/QUOTE]
Sosua and the rest of D.R. will be hot and humid and just a tad bit better in the night. You can try M&M Massage parlor or Oni's. The first of the two is located by the Banco Popular branch while Oni's is on the other end of the main strip. Just ask and someone will show you the way.
MISTER NYC :D
[QUOTE=Straight Shooter]Thank you for the information on Club X and Classico but I would like more information on the other bars that are located in the area of Europa as far as air conditioning goes. As I stated in my previous post after spending the day in the hot sun, I welcome being in the air conditioning at night, especially so when I like to wear nice clothes to go partying in the evening. Nothing is worse than being dressed nice and then being soaked in sweat!. I am sure many of you can relate. Thank you again in advance.[/QUOTE]Classico and Club X, the discos, are pretty much it for a/c. Most if not all of the bars, including those around the Europa, are open-air, so a/c wouldn't make sense.
I was there in early September and the humidity was high. I eventually resigned myself to the fact that I was going to perspire any time I was outdoors, day or night. It didn't cut down on my enjoyment any. Just make sure you get a hotel with good a/c.
What air conditioned places did you frequent in Boca Chica?
[QUOTE=Zip Head]A technique: almost all the girls want to watch TV during the act. At first I didn't like this, as they seemed to watch it to my exclusion, but actually if they were enjoying themselves watching some program they would let me carry on for longer than normal; so I just offered them the remote and let them have at it!! I would just accomodate them and let them watch while doing doggy or if they were giving me BBBJ; it all works for me!!!
[/QUOTE]Zip Head, a nice report and some useful tips.
I always offer a young lady the remote and a Presidente as soon as we hit the room. The more relaxed and happy they are, the better time you are likely to have.
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo]Zip Head, a nice report and some useful tips.
I always offer a young lady the remote and a Presidente as soon as we hit the room. The more relaxed and happy they are, the better time you are likely to have.[/QUOTE]Hi VL and ZH,
Thanks for your interesting posts. In my very limited mongering experience, mostly limited to Riga and the DR, I have always been incensed when *****s talk on their mobiles or watch TV in my time. (I am a very selective user of phones and TVs in my own life). It is enough to make my dick go limp.
DR chicas are good at simulating GFE even in ST and even more with TLN, but hard to pull off the illusion if they are giving all their attention elsewhere.
Still, I respect you guys' opinions so I may experiment at least once on my forthcoming trip.
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo]Classico and Club X, the discos, are pretty much it for a/c. Most if not all of the bars, including those around the Europa, are open-air, so a/c wouldn't make sense.
I was there in early September and the humidity was high. I eventually resigned myself to the fact that I was going to perspire any time I was outdoors, day or night. It didn't cut down on my enjoyment any. Just make sure you get a hotel with good a/c.
What air conditioned places did you frequent in Boca Chica?[/QUOTE]Thanks Victor for the information and I am sure you are well aware that as far as air conditioning goes in Boca Chica after the crack down in March of 2005 the only nightlife left so to speak of was in the Barbujas Disco, so that was it with air conditioning bars/discos. My last visit to Boca Chica was last September but I know from reading the reports on Boca Chica that a couple of new discos have opened since then and I am sure they have air conditioning being a disco/nightclub setting. I stayed at the El Candil in Boca Chica so I could enjoy the beach life during the day, but made the trip to Santo Domingo to enjoy more of the nightlife because of what I stated above about Barbujas being the only nightlife left in the city.
While in Sousa for the week of June 29th through July 5th I will be staying at Europa but have not decided on staying in an apartment or the hotel. What do you or anyone else prefer?
[QUOTE=London777]I have always been incensed when *****s talk on their mobiles or watch TV in my time. (I am a very selective user of phones and TVs in my own life). It is enough to make my dick go limp.[/QUOTE]
Well, I can usually manage to draw her attention away from the television, but I do draw the line at talking on the phone during...especially if she's talking to her boyfriend. That definitely kills the romance. ;)
[QUOTE=Straight Shooter]While in Sousa for the week of June 29th through July 5th I will be staying at Europa but have not decided on staying in an apartment or the hotel. What do you or anyone else prefer?[/QUOTE]I've only stayed on the hotel side. I was shown the apartments, but opted for the one large, open, bright (via the sliders to the balcony) room, to a couple of smaller, more dimly lit rooms on the apartment side.
That's purely subjective, though. Many prefer the apartments. It is said to have a nicer pool area for example. Assuming there are sufficient vacancies, why not ask to see both on arrival and make a decision on the spot.
One thing, I think you'll find the discos in Sosua much superior to that accursed Barbujas in BC. In my opinion, Sosua is somewhat like Boca Chica, but with a bit more of everything and a nicer beach as well.
Hey Everyone,
I came back from a 4 days(5/24-5/28) stay in Sosua beach.IT WAS THE BEST!!!As soon as we got off the plane I was looking at those DELICIOUS Local girls at the airport and was thinking if I got a hold of any of the girls that look like the girls at the airport,It going to be some Good BANGIN.With my supprise the girls near Hotel Europa ws BETTER.Day 1 and 2 I had 6 girls in 2 day and counting.The 2 days there felt like I been there for a week.My buddies was screaming with excitment that they never had these many girls in a short time.IT WAS HEAVEN!!!.Now that Im back there are some lesson that I learn.1st lesson:Learn to said not now babie,But maybe later.2nd the girls that stay on the corner by the Hotel are a little posses(But a very good screw)and act like they dont want you to screw other women.But tell them in a nice way that you here to bang as many women that you can and it all BUSINESS,HAHA pretty lady.
3rd where SHADES,DARK Glasses eye contact is key with chicas emotion,when you moving on to better chicas.
4th Take a walk from Hotel to beach because we find some niccccccce girls pass the hotel and at beach.
5th The Jewel of that place is to hold on(if you can make it,ha ha ) until you can go to the clubs Classico and others,Because you will find BUBBLE BUTTS and loooooony nipple chicas after 11:00pm in those clubs.I mean some BANGGIN HAMER and they looking for that 2000 peso,But 1500 will do.
6th You can take PICS But bring a nice or cute mask and pay then 100 peso for the pics. I have a few pics and I send it later.
Thank everyone for the GOOD INFO ON THE FORUM!
That all for now.
Hey all,
I am just curious if [email]info@hotelplazaeuropa.com[/email] is still the email to Europa Plaza in Sosua. Sent an email couple days ago regarding booking couple rooms for July 11-19 and still recieved no answer. If anyone has an updated email adress I would appreciate if they could forward it to me.
Thank you
Hey Fella,
This is a question for the guys who been to Sosua more then twice of year.The girl that hang around Hotel Europa across the 1st corner are mostlly the same girls about 10 of then(yes or no).Because for 4 day you will see 25 to 30 new one,But you will alway see those 10 chicas.They feel that their territory and I watch and listen and watch out for them,Because they can be COCKBLOCKER! After you get pass the 1st block you will start seeing different chicas.
All the girls can be a good screw, but word to advice, WATCH OUT FOR THE AGGRESSIVE ONE! They will HOUND you until you leave.
There are a lot of smooth chicas after 10-11pm in the Clubs and try not to seat down in the clubs,because those aggressive chicas will try to claim you.
But I can be wrong.Can anyone answer this?
Myself,
I've just returned from Sosua and had a great time. The e-mail address you have for Europa is correct. You may also want to try: [email]real.state@verizon.net.do[/email]. When I booked my room back in May I noticed that they do not respond to e-mails very quickly. You're probably better off calling them at: (809)571-3335. Ask to speak to Diego who normally comes in during the late afternoon. He is very friendly and speaks english very well.
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo]Well, I can usually manage to draw her attention away from the television, but I do draw the line at talking on the phone during...especially if she's talking to her boyfriend. That definitely kills the romance. ;)[/QUOTE]
Not always. I had a Boca Chica girl pissed off at her Italian boyfriend so when he called she started blowing me with lots of sloppy noises and moaning so he knew what she was doing.
My trip to Sosua has been delayed, but still planning to go in late July or thereabout. I've heard some good things about the Tropix hotel and its central location. Can anyone tell me if it's chick friendly? I may still use a different place for mongering, but was wondering. Thanks for any feedback.
I wouldn't call the Tropix a "central" location. It's on the other side of the "highway" and a decent hike to downtown El Batey.
I've only been there once, very briefly. The hotel doesn't have a bar, and I assume it is chica friendly, as there seems to be no one around running the place. You might be happier at Europa.
Thanks for the info Shadow. I guess people leave reviews and give a positive spin when it may not be warranted. The Europa in the daytime seems to be fine from what I've read, but during nighttime, it might leave me searching for something better.
Hi everyone,
Do anyone have any info on where there are some nice Waterfalls near Sosua area. I would love to go to a waterfall if it not far from the beach.
Would really like to get some info on this.
Thank
[QUOTE=Man Can Bang]
Do anyone have any info on where there are some nice Waterfalls near Sosua area. I would love to go to a waterfall if it not far from the beach.
[/QUOTE]
The only waterfalls I know about are in Jarabacoa, which is about 2hrs away more or less. They have tour companies in town that take you out. You can go horseback riding up to the waterfall, walk a bit, and dive right in. White water rafting is also popular.
MISTER NYC :D
No there is a waterfall just outside of PP me and my buddy went there on a tour. Its truly amazing crystal clear water in which the tour involves climbing and swimming 7 stages. I cant remember the tour name but we booked the guide through black beards for 55usd.
I booked a similar tour with a guided horseback ride and meal through Billy at Field of Dreams.
[QUOTE=J Brolic]No there is a waterfall just outside of PP me and my buddy went there on a tour. Its truly amazing crystal clear water in which the tour involves climbing and swimming 7 stages. I cant remember the tour name but we booked the guide through black beards for 55usd.[/QUOTE]
Billy is a great guy.... have to get him to go with you and Frank from Casa Mariana to the other clubs... always a fun night
I met the owner at new Shark Bar one night in June 06, she implied that she did NOT consider her establishment a monger spot. It may be "chica tolerant" - but is almost certainly not chica friendly.
[QUOTE=J Brolic]No there is a waterfall just outside of PP me and my buddy went there on a tour. Its truly amazing crystal clear water in which the tour involves climbing and swimming 7 stages. I cant remember the tour name but we booked the guide through black beards for 55usd.[/QUOTE]I believe this would be the Rio Damajagua waterfalls near Imbert, inland from Puerto Plata. Several tour companies in Sosua go there. Just copy the name and show it to them.
Any recommendations for my visit? Northcoast or Dolphin dive centers?
[QUOTE=Mose]Any recommendations for my visit? Northcoast or Dolphin dive centers?[/QUOTE]
[url]www.northerncoastdiving.com/divesites2.html[/url]
Supposed to be the best on the North Coast.
-Helpmann :)
I’m planning my first visit to DR, (Sosua) I have RTFF and think I have a good feel for the mongering, and I’m not new to the hobby but any tips would be welcome.
What I would really like to know is if fishing is available, (sometimes I need a break from fucking) if so what type is available, and at what cost?
Thanks
Punter 127
[QUOTE=Punter 127]I’m planning my first visit to DR, (Sosua) I have RTFF and think I have a good feel for the mongering, and I’m not new to the hobby but any tips would be welcome.
What I would really like to know is if fishing is available, (sometimes I need a break from fucking) if so what type is available, and at what cost?
Thanks
Punter 127[/QUOTE]
There is plenty of good fishing.... most hotels can hook you up.... or try going to DR1 they have a good site for getting that non-momgering info.
O.K. which one of you was it? Who was responsible for this? Who was the guy responsible for using the high-powered vacuum and absolutely sucking the life out of this place? ;)
Sosua has never exactly had the best quality of women unless of course you consider 6's and 6.5's with questionable personal hygene - high quality. But when did the scores of Haitian working girls arrive who are 3.5's with NO personal hygene?
Prices for girls are dirt cheap, but food in the Mora Mai, PJ's and La Roca's is up across the board. Way up! It doesn't get much better in the Playero Supermercado where a six pack of Presidentes is $7 US. I can do a hell of alot better than that in the Bronx in NY, and the beer is being made up the street! :(
I may be "bolting" soon.
Santo Domingo, le falto! Le falto mucho!
cheers............
SuperSuper was selling Presidentes at 700 pesos a case????
I agree there has been an influx of darker women but there are still a good number of light skinned chicas too.
When were you there and how drunk where you at night? Did you check out Classicos and Passions? or Club X and the beach???
EK,
When was I there? I just finished my breakfast at the Mora Mai restaurant 10 minutes ago. I had the Desayuno Grande con los huevos revueltos. :)
I realize that "flaming" Sosua is a war I'll never win. So I'm not going to try. There is just too many guys that worship this place and made their reputation on this board and other boards based on their trips here. (Some senior members I know ONLY come here. You ask them about some place other than Sosua and they're clueless)
My last time to Sosua, was Dec 2003 and I think quality has dipped considerably since then. Life is afterall a series of choices and if I had to rate the top DR destinations I would say the Capital stands alone Santo Domingo 1st , with Santiago a respectable 2nd.
(That however is my list in this country - don't even get me started with my trips to Colombia and Venezuela!) ;)
cheers all..............
Sounds Like September Can't Get Here Quick Enough For You Ford!
Hey Fantasy!
Yes, that is pretty much true. At some point over the past two years Sosua seems to have turned into Boca Chica. The quality, the atmosphere etc.
I'm not exactly sure when it happened, but I'm not thrilled about it. :(
Ford,
I could not agree more. If I didn't have the connections on the North Coast I've developed over the years Sosua would not be my preferred destination on the island.
well guess who just semi-saved my vacation here in sosua? blausi. yeah, i know that blausi. (lol) i here all you guys laughing.
the world famous "palace" blausi is now a free-lancer who works somewhere between the bar alegria and the beach. she actually looks pretty damn good! thin, curvy and she always had a decent face and great little tits.
so there i am sitting on the balcony of la roca's sipping a presidente light and peeling the label off in even strips (because i'm bored out of my mind) and here comes blausi walking up from the beach.
i'm absolutely amazed to see someone i recognize so i call over to her. (here's the funny part) she grabs one little quick glance at me (maybe 5 seconds) and recognizes me immediately! she runs up to the balcony, hugs me, remembers my "real" first and last name, remembers she spent a night with me in the palace penthouse and that she posed for a series of pictures in some lingerie i brought in from the states. i was dumbfounded! i haven't been to sosua in 2 years and 7 months!
when sosua street girls know you on a first name basis it may really be time that i consider getting a life! (lol) :d
we went back to my condominium and had 2 1/2 hours of unmemorable sex. the great thing about blausi is that she's a consumate pro, and this was what i needed tonight. i'm not exactly the smallest guy in the world (anywhere) but its never too much for blausi!
she can take anything you can put in her with no problems, and she can do it with this disinterested expression on her face like she's making out tomorrow's grocery list! (lol)
i then went to antonio's italian/dominican restaurant and got into a discussion with the bar maid about whether barrio tres ojos is the worst neighborhood in santo domingo. tomorrow is her day off and i took her number for drinks.
all n' all a full day in sosua. :)
to me sosua is a quiet beach town with free flowing gossip. i guess thats why i love it. as far as scoring there in the disco? not anymore. but its just a hop skip and a jump over to pop or santiago. i never liked large cities, not here in the states, or on vacation. give me a small beach town any day over the bustle of santo domingo and the likes.
Well my exciting (lol) return to Sosua is nearly at an end, and its real had to put a good face on things. :(
After a 2 year 7 month layoff I returned to find Sosua, pretty much a dilapidated dump, and after some of my trips to central america I'm somewhat of an authority on dilapidated dumps! (lol) :D
There is a sad lineup of largely unattractive women trying to make a living on the street down here, and with the economy as depressed as can be the game in town now is 1. find a gringo 2. follow the gringo 3. steal, beg, cheat lie but do whatever you have to to get every last penny out of him any way you can!
I know that is nothing new for this place, but I've never seen it as bad and as depressed as this. Too, you have literally hundreds upon hundreds of Haitian nationals combing the streets looking for whatever they can score as well. :(
The one positive thing I could mention is that it seems to me that the prices for women is still low and possibly getting lower. There are so many unattractive Haitian and Dominican women walking the streets looking to make a buck I should think ST could probably be negotiated (at least during the day) for as little as 1200 RDP or maybe less. ($38)
I have reached the point in life where quality is what I'm after and finding something that is maybe a 4 or 5 and going after it just because it can be had for $40 doesn't "juice" me.
cheers,
FORD
[QUOTE=Ford]Well my exciting (lol) return to Sosua is nearly at an end, and its real had to put a good face on things. :(
After a 2 year 7 month layoff I returned to find Sosua, pretty much a dilapidated dump, and after some of my trips to central america I'm somewhat of an authority on dilapidated dumps! (lol) :D
There is a sad lineup of largely unattractive women trying to make a living on the street down here, and with the economy as depressed as can be the game in town now is 1. find a gringo 2. follow the gringo 3. steal, beg, cheat lie but do whatever you have to to get every last penny out of him any way you can!
I know that is nothing new for this place, but I've never seen it as bad and as depressed as this. Too, you have literally hundreds upon hundreds of Haitian nationals combing the streets looking for whatever they can score as well. :(
The one positive thing I could mention is that it seems to me that the prices for women is still low and possibly getting lower. There are so many unattractive Haitian and Dominican women walking the streets looking to make a buck I should think ST could probably be negotiated (at least during the day) for as little as 1200 RDP or maybe less. ($38)
I have reached the point in life where quality is what I'm after and finding something that is maybe a 4 or 5 and going after it just because it can be had for $40 doesn't "juice" me.
cheers,
FORD[/QUOTE]
I agree with you a 100% Ford on how Sosua is going down hill, the only reason I go there is for business purposes, and I have a trip coming up in week and this is going to be my last trip for a while Im taking a break and Im traveling to other places like Brasil in September and Colombia in December, it's time for me to step up in the mongering game and move into 1st class status.
[QUOTE=Ford]Well my exciting (lol) return to Sosua is nearly at an end, and its real had to put a good face on things. :(
After a 2 year 7 month layoff I returned to find Sosua, pretty much a dilapidated dump, and after some of my trips to central america I'm somewhat of an authority on dilapidated dumps! (lol) :D
There is a sad lineup of largely unattractive women trying to make a living on the street down here, and with the economy as depressed as can be the game in town now is 1. find a gringo 2. follow the gringo 3. steal, beg, cheat lie but do whatever you have to to get every last penny out of him any way you can!
I know that is nothing new for this place, but I've never seen it as bad and as depressed as this. Too, you have literally hundreds upon hundreds of Haitian nationals combing the streets looking for whatever they can score as well. :(
The one positive thing I could mention is that it seems to me that the prices for women is still low and possibly getting lower. There are so many unattractive Haitian and Dominican women walking the streets looking to make a buck I should think ST could probably be negotiated (at least during the day) for as little as 1200 RDP or maybe less. ($38)
I have reached the point in life where quality is what I'm after and finding something that is maybe a 4 or 5 and going after it just because it can be had for $40 doesn't "juice" me.
Cheers,
FORD[/QUOTE]I have no idea where you have been looking but the latest reports that I have seen had very attractive women in all varieties.. A non monger just returned from a bachelor party and showed me promising videos of the quality of women.
So really I find to say the majority of the women are ugly is ridiculous. unless you are one of those guys that likes mostly the white looking girls and anything outside of that is ugly..then it that case, you would be correct.
Just the Facts.
[QUOTE=Mose]Any recommendations for my visit? Northcoast or Dolphin dive centers?[/QUOTE]I'll be in Sosua next week.
Hopefully it won't be Boca Chica, as I will never return there. Being on Duarte Street in Boca for 3 days and seeing the same girls got very old in a short amount of time.
I'm a 7th time traveler to the DR, staying at BB's for 5 times but am looking for something a little different. I've always enjoyed BlackBeards but have gotten a little restless at being "gawked at" by the resident hookers after the deed was done with nowhere to go. At least in Sosua there is small town to stretch ones legs and take a walk. On my last trip from POP to Sosua I witnessed a cast of girls sitting a block away on the strip not far from the Palace that looked like the Oakland Raiders.
I'm staying at Europa Apartments. Any Advise would be appreciated. I promise to follow with a report. Good, Bad or indifferent
Just got back from a 12 day trip, and I must say that a great deal has changed from when I was there in April. The quality and number of nice looking women had dropped off big time. I found myself having to take my time in looking for what I really wanted, because these women can look like a totally different person outside of the lights in the club. I had several repeat sessions with several chicas that I found attractive, and the sex was on point. All in all, the 12 days in Sosua still beats anytime in the states.
I must say as an African American male, that I'm so damn tired of seeing all of these other brothers rolling in packs wearing those damn white tee's. Grow the fuck up!
I did have a chance to visit Santo Domingo and visit the campus of the Univeristy of Santo Domingo. I would highly recommend this for any person that would like to get away and see some educated Dominican women who are interested in American culture. My friend and I spent about six hours on campus and spoke with several female students. It was very refreshing to get some additional insight on the life of Dominicans. It is more to the Dominican Republic than Perdo Clisanate!
I will return to the DR, but I'm in no rush to get back. Looks like that I will hit Brazil in October, and Colombia in December. Take care and be safe.
[QUOTE=Braves41]Just got back from a 12 day trip, and I must say that a great deal has changed from when I was there in April. The quality and number of nice looking women had dropped off big time. I found myself having to take my time in looking for what I really wanted, because these women can look like a totally different person outside of the lights in the club. I had several repeat sessions with several chicas that I found attractive, and the sex was on point. All in all, the 12 days in Sosua still beats anytime in the states.
I must say as an African American male, that I'm so damn tired of seeing all of these other brothers rolling in packs wearing those damn white tee's. Grow the fuck up!
I did have a chance to visit Santo Domingo and visit the campus of the Univeristy of Santo Domingo. I would highly recommend this for any person that would like to get away and see some educated Dominican women who are interested in American culture. My friend and I spent about six hours on campus and spoke with several female students. It was very refreshing to get some additional insight on the life of Dominicans. It is more to the Dominican Republic than Perdo Clisanate!
I will return to the DR, but I'm in no rush to get back. Looks like that I will hit Brazil in October, and Colombia in December. Take care and be safe.[/QUOTE]
Very very good Braves41! I agree with your comments about Santo Domingo completely. SDQ is the rythym of the island, it is the pulse of the island, as the capital goes - so goes the DR!
I am really amazed at guys who have taken multiple trips to the DR and never even been to the capital. You said it my friend - "There is more to the DR than Pedro Clisante"
cheers...........
Staying at the Voramar.
I've heard that Sosua Car Wash re-opened, and lot of action is avaliable there (waitresses, among other chicas). Has anyone seen it?
I hope I got my numbers right....I think it's #5.
I'm in Sosua right now, after being in BC for 3 days. I am confused when people here say they are becoming the same place. For me, the current differences in my personal experience are significant, basic and worth noting. Of course, with all things YMMV.
1. BC is a very small place. In two days you've been approached or seen most of the P4P girls on the beach, on the street, or in the parque. Sousua is a bigger playground. It's no city...and you do see the same girls in the same places...sometimes. However, there is always something new to find around the corner and I've been here for 5 days so far.
2. In the evening, it seems that the only action in BC is the high-priced casas or on the street, which is a damn zoo. The street, Duarte, is a hell hole to walk on, especially at night. The girls are aggressive. They grab you. They shout at you. After the first night, I avoided the street altogether and walked on the street behind it, to and from the parque where I felt more comfortable, but even that could be aggressive, quick-- "you want to go with me" --with no flirtation foreplay and if the chica was fea, you couldn't get rid of them! Also, if you want to sit alone in the parque in BC it is impossible. In less than a minute you will be accosted and if it's someone you're not interested in. You have to move. They will not take "no" for an answer. They will not leave.
In Sosua you can stroll around. The chica presence is low-key on the street, focussed mainly in the bars---both the large noisy ones and the small ones with half a dozen seats. Even inside those, you get the looks, but not a whole lot of the aggressive chicas I had come to know in BC. Sure, some say hello and say something inviting, but they do not grab you and pin you in a hammerlock!
3. In BC I saw many real "skanks". Girls who looked like the drug addicts from back home. Real low life types, who don't even come on for sex, but just come over and ask for money. Very depressing. You start to feel dirty just being there. Here in Sosua, the girls are mostly real young and upbeat. Looks vary and are a matter of opinion anyway. I also noticed what Ford said about the large number of Haitians here now, as a negative. Two years ago I was here looking and couldn't find a decent one to spend time with. Now there is a club on the main drag in the more-or-less-middle of town that is almost EXCLUSIVELY HAITIAN! And for those who like the real dark meat, there are some real gems to be found. As you can tell, unlike Ford, I like the Haitianas---even though they have a not-unfounded reputation for being landronas. I've engaged two so far and both were legit and provided enthusiastic and smiling service all around. NO CEDULAS FOLKS. Many of the Haitianas don't have the necessary ID. One used a passport...and I went to CALYPSO with the other, a clean, but basic place you can use for ST for 300 pesos (less than $15 USD). They also provide soap, clean towels and condoms!
Also, RE: FORD'S REPORT. I am finding no problem with 1000 as a readily accepted number. Sure, they ask for 2000 or 1500 first, but when I say 1000 is what yo tengo, not even a whimper!
More later from Sosua....
#2128
After 3 years and 7 trips to DR, here are my thoughts. Sosua is on the decline...for sure. It is still fun as hell, but in my last trip this past winter, I saw many of the same *****s who were hanging around when I first landed like Columbus in 2003. Prices are still low, if you speak good spanish (1000ST 1500TLN), but you basically have too many knuckleheads going down there with their duty free rum and 50 Cent CDs thinking they are ballin' outta control and paying up for a$$. Since most jokers dont speak Spanish and are used to paying $200 for p*ssy in NYC, they are happying paying up to even $100USD for p*ssy in Sosua...I've seen it first hand guys. I am black American, and thought I should have stayed back in Washington Heights f*cking these ghetto chica instead of flying all the way to DR!
All this basically says 1) if you are a monger looking for more quality and fun in DR, I would head further off the beaten path. My next destination is Rio San Juan in October...I've heard great things. Sosua is a great 3-day, drunken, Man Can Bang bonanza...and little more. For a chiller time, with nicer surroundings, and sweeter p*ssy...head further from POP.
I also second the thought about Dominican universities...those girls are HOT HOT HOT and friendly and looking for a ticket too. I've seen plenty of wifey material p*ssy in SDQ and STI universities...literally, stop the press type girls.
Any info on places like Luperon? Monte Cristi? Rio San Juan? Nagua? Samana?
I'm now finishing up Day #6 in Sosua. It's my second trip here, so it's not all new to me...
I"m a white mature monger, greying but fit, travelling solo and not into the heavy drinking, heavy partying scene that is also happening here. Mostly now with several groups of African American guys, in their late twenties or so, and some maybe older, who are turning wherever they are into a big party. Most seem to be staying at the Europa and when they are hosting at the 4 Roses or The Domino the places are rocking! Some also seem to have rented SUV's and pack them with girls and cruise the main drag looking for more! I spoke with one guy from Philly who told me he had had 5 girls on his first night and paid them all in dollars---50 of them! He was real happy at that price. When I told him he could get by with 1000 pesos, he had to ask how much that was. When I told him $33, he was shocked. So that is some of what's going on, but I'm just observing that, it's not been my own experience of Sosua.
For the past two days I've met girls on the beach, sitting in the little food and drink stalls that line the playa. I usually will buy them a beer for a buck fifty and sit and chat them up. On each occasion, my interest in them was low and the heat of the day was high, the combination enough to take a pass.
Then, on each night after a forgettable and unremarkable dinner (there ain't great food here!) I cruised the main drag in town, stopping at one or two of the big bars at around 9 or 10 at night. They are hopping at that time with a lot of very dark girls. First night I connected with a Haitiana named "Marybelle". She was a damn beauty. Short, 20 y.o, big big tits and a great smile and laugh. She was hugging and sitting real close after about 5 minutes. We ended up at CALYPSO because she didn't have a CEDULA for 1000. Had a great GFE session. Couldn't have been better. Maybe I already reported this?
Then last night, went back to the same place, looking for a repeat. Marybelle wasn't there at 10PM, so I sat down with another very dark girl, older, maybe 25, Dominicana this time, and chatted her up. She was a little aloof. No touching and sitting at a respectable distance. She was quick to tell me that she worked during the day as a cook and only did this at night to support her 2 children. After about 20 minutes of small talk, uninspired at every level, I negotiated 1000 for a visit to my room. She agreed without any enthusiasm and we were off. The session was TERRIBLE. She wouldn't stop talking the entire time (I didn't understand what she was saying), but none of it seemed to have any point. She was just totally detached and wanted me to get on with it. Like she's singing some song in a low voice while I'm thrusting. Get it? I stopped and told her I was finished, it wasn't good for me and no problem, good by. She then acted like she didn't understand what was wrong and got insulted. She insisted that I finish. I did so as quick as I could...and got rid of her pronto. A real waste of time and $33 bucks.
I met Tom who owns (i.e. rents) the HAMBURGER PLACE next to Club Residencial. He's a Danish guy who's been here a year, married a Dominicana and is having a go here at running a business. He told me the fact that most here already know, that a salary for a shop girl, or one who works at his place as a waitress and cook, is 5000 pesos a month. He explained the obvious, how it's very tempting for these girls, who also have a real job, to take on a touristo for 1000 pesos for an hour or two of sex play! He told me that most are are single and open to it, if you make a decent impression. It's important for them, he explained, to have a real job. This makes the sex experience seem very different for them. Since they have a job, they do not consider themselves putas, only someone making a little extra on the side to help out with the cost of being a single Mom.
He also explained that many of the young girls here, both putas and the ones working in shops and restaurants, have had the typical Domincan relationship, one in which they fall madly in love, they fuck non-stop without condoms, since Dominican guys do not like to use them...until the guy impregnates the girl and then he leaves to find another girl, once the first one's belly starts to grow. The girl is left with the baby and no means of support. No welfare here folks! As a result, they turn to the street and voila: we find what we find!
OK. It's 8PM. Time for dinner and to see what the evening will bring....wish me luck!
#2128
[QUOTE=Monger 3]After 3 years and 7 trips to DR, here are my thoughts. Sosua is on the decline...for sure. It is still fun as hell, but in my last trip this past winter, I saw many of the same *****s who were hanging around when I first landed like Columbus in 2003. Prices are still low, if you speak good spanish (1000ST 1500TLN), but you basically have too many knuckleheads going down there with their duty free rum and 50 Cent CDs thinking they are ballin' outta control and paying up for a$$. Since most jokers dont speak Spanish and are used to paying $200 for p*ssy in NYC, they are happying paying up to even $100USD for p*ssy in Sosua...I've seen it first hand guys. I am black American, and thought I should have stayed back in Washington Heights f*cking these ghetto chica instead of flying all the way to DR!
All this basically says 1) if you are a monger looking for more quality and fun in DR, I would head further off the beaten path. My next destination is Rio San Juan in October...I've heard great things. Sosua is a great 3-day, drunken, Man Can Bang bonanza...and little more. For a chiller time, with nicer surroundings, and sweeter p*ssy...head further from POP.
I also second the thought about Dominican universities...those girls are HOT HOT HOT and friendly and looking for a ticket too. I've seen plenty of wifey material p*ssy in SDQ and STI universities...literally, stop the press type girls.
Any info on places like Luperon? Monte Cristi? Rio San Juan? Nagua? Samana?[/QUOTE]I just had to chime on on what you wrote. I am Black American living here in NYC. I think its a matter of time before that scene blows up for the brothers making the trek to Sosua. I say this because they dont know to stop. This is Republica Dominicana, not 125th Street. In DR, its Frank Reyes, not 50 Cent.
Total embarrasment if you ask me. Last time I was there, I walked down Pedro Clisante and said to myself: "if I wanted to see and hear this, I could have stayed home". Anyway, when I am there, I spend much of my time with my girl in Santiago, and the rancho tipicos along and out of the way of the knuckle heads as you so correctly described them. Just wanted to chime in here. Later.
OK...I'm in Sosua right now and I'm reading all this shit on the board here and I have a hard time with it...everyone seems to have such a narrow view of the possibilities and the realities here.
Sure, the main drag is full of "tigras" at night, calling out to you from their bar stools as you walk by. This happens all over, especially at the Classico, Club 59, etc. Sure, there is a lot of trash around walking the streets. So what! You just avoid them and hunt elsewhere.
Prices. Yeah, sure, most of the tourist joints charge OUTRAGEOUS prices. It's as expensive for a meal at some of the places recommended on this board than it is in LA or NYC. Paying $10-15 for an ordinary coffee shop meal is way off for me. LA ROCA should be called LA RIP-OFF and the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad. They charge a 26% bullshit tax on a meal that costs around $20 for something not very special. You can spend $30-$40/person there if you have a drink. In the Domincian REpublic? Even the board famous little joint called ROCKY'S, where everyone talks about the great breakfasts, is a gringo trap. I went there with a chica who speaks only Spanish and asked for the menu in Spanish. Out comes a menu with prices that are ONE-HALF the prices in English!!! READ CAREFULLY: THE ENGLISH MENU CHARGED TWICE THE SPANISH MENU. When in Sosua one must accept the fact that there are two economies---a Gringo price and a Dominican price. Sometimes it's just a few pesos more for Gringos, but in Rocky's ("We are the Gringo's Friend"), it's double! As far as food goes, for those mongers who are willing and/able to deal with a Spanish menu and a place with no other tourists sitting in the room....you can eat all meals for around $5.00 or less.
Now for the chicas. I know it's been said here before from the experienced guys, but mongers throwing around those 1000 peso notes are way off base. The girls that are going after them (i.e. the mongers and their big bills) are basically thieves. These are the "mafiosas", the "tigras", the "landronas". It's well known here. But somehow, many of the mongers hit town, with their head of their ass and don't think of what they're doing when they start throwing around the money.
The girl behind the small quiet bar, who is serving you drinks makes around 5000 pesos A MONTH! The same is true for the girl working at the little restaurant around the corner or at the beach. Their compensation, in other words, is about $33/week. Do we get that? $33 a week! They are not putas. They are working at a boring job every day and make 33 bucks a week to feed their kids, since most of them do not have working husbands who contribute. However, if you talk to them nicely, get to know them a little, flirt a bit and let them know your intention of a "good time" together....you will find they will OFTEN (not always!) come with you for a very nice session after work, or the next day, or whatever. They do not think of themselves as putas because they have a real job. However, they are tempted by 500 pesos for a night out, or even a few hours with you at the hotel. I have done this 3 or four times in 2 weeks with stellar results.
Also, it can pay off to look in places that don't seem like places to pick up women. Each day at the beach I saw this Haitiana "hair braiding" woman about 30-35 years old, with a classic Haitiana face and butt that the kind of curvature that could balance a tray of drinks. I couldn't keep my eyes off her. She'd always be a with a group of others just outside the beach area at the waterfront. After a day or two, I went over and stood there and just smiled at her. She and the other girls started laughing. They knew my intentions. She was not interested, but her friends kept chiding her on in Creole. She didn't speak Spanish. Through one of her friends, working as the interpreter, she asked for 2,500 pesos! for a day of entertainment. I was supposed to be taking her out on boat rides, having dinner with her, etc. It was crazy. When I told her that was out of the question, she backed off and said she wasn't interested. I offered 500 and she walked away. However, her friend assured me that for 1000 I could have her. Off she went to talk to her friend. Yes! It was arranged. She'd go home to bath and clean up and I'd meet her here in 2 hours.
I show up and there she is WITH ANOTHER GIRL, another Haitiana much younger and thin and gorgeous. She looked very Somalian actually. The other girls is presented as the "hermana" and I am to go with her, not the orginal, she keeps repeating "No puedo" for some reason. I insist at first on the orginal and make a fuss, but after about 10 minutes of nonsense, I go with the new girl for 1000. She's not a puta, but works in Puerto Plata at a hotel, doing cleaning during the day. And she is sweet, willling, HOT AS HELL and got wild in the sack with me. And says, "Thank you" and gives me a big hug when I give her the money! This is not the case with a "tigra". They usually ask for more and badger you till you want to start pummelling them!
These are the kind of story I've had in my two weeks here. There are others.
However, for those who want to hit the disco and buy drinks for full time putas at puta bars----you will not get what you pay for. You will get ripped off. I did. That's how I learned....
#2128
After a week here, I was in the mood for a break and decided to investigate further out on the north coast and go to a town called LAS TERRENAS, supposedly a sweet little beach town, without much action.
I had had a good time with a girl who works behind the bar at a place called SCANDALS (I think that's the name). It's just past CLUB RESIDENCIAL, away from the direction of "town", on the opposite side of the street. I had had drinks there for two nights and each time I flirted with a sweet little 1/2 Haitiana, 1/2 Dominican bar girl. Very dark, tight body and very friendly. On the second night, we're playing wilth each other and another one of the bar girls tells me that I can pay a SALIDA of 300 pesos ($9.00) and take her home. I ask if she's interested and she says, "No problema." Well...well. We walk across the street and have a hot, exhausting session in my room. Out of the cama she's low-key, fun and happy.
The next night, I return and she's there with a big sonrisa for me. I tell her that I'm planning a trip to LAS TERRENAS for an overnight stay and ask about her day off. Maybe she'd like to join me? She says, "No problema!" We can leave tomorrow. What? Sure, she says. The "salida girl" comes over and asks for 600 pesos ($18 USD) for two days. I pay the bill and we're out of there, planning to leave the next day! She spends the night with me (no $$$ asked) then the next morning, gets her stuff, we have breakfast together and off we go.
The only way to LAS TERRENAS, a place where she'd never been, was by guagua, since CARIBE TOURS (the big air-conditioned bus) only goes there from Santa Domingo. We take a series of 4 guaguas, through the countryside, packed like sardines, stopping for locals in the campo, go over a mountain or two with breathtaking views, pass through NAGUA a desolate beach surrounded by a dusty non-descript town and she's sitting there next to me, patient, quiet and occasionally smiling. I'm enjoying the typical Dominican scene in the guagua with people getting on and off, chatting with each other, seeing friends, etc. It's hot as hell and crowded, but I enoyed it, but that's just me. After 4 hours of this we arrive at our destination and it's everything I thought it would. Tranquil, BEAUTIFUL BEACH, world class IMHO. At night the beach area (tourist area) is quiet and the stars light up the sky. Since this is not a LAS TERRENAS report, I'll stop...
Point of the story is that this beautiful little chica (21 years old) spent two days and two nights with me on a trip I could have taken alone. She was not a full time, big time puta----just a girl who saw an opportunity for a pay day. She never asked for any money, but I let her know there would be some at the end, never mentioning an amount. When we got back to Sosua, after a fine time in L.T. walking around, sitting on the beach, exploring the town and doing the deed 2x/day, I went to the bank, got 3000 pesos and gave it to her. She gave me a quick little hug and was off to take care of some business. Finito. Over and out! 3000 for her, 600 for the bar, a bunch of meals and some drinks and it's a done deal for 2 days of fun. A bargain and again....much better than cruising the discos for hard core putas! IMHO.
So, while Sosua may be declining on the surface and being overun by Haitians (so what's wrong with that?), there's still a quality holiday there for the taking---if you speak a workable Spanish, make the effort and have some patience.
Enjoy.
#2128
"the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad."
Surprised to hear someone who is dissappointed w/ Morra Mai. They had the best food and prices in Sosua when I was there in 2002 and 2 months ago when I was there. We ate there for breakfast, lunch and dinner and found the food and service great. And the prices were the best part - i'd have been willing to pay more!
Hotel Plaza Europa sounds tired.
Are any of these two monger friendly? Hotel Cas Cayena or Piegiorgio? Any other recommendations in town?
I'm headed here next week. Will let you know what its like. I DO know that its chica friendly (I called and asked).
[url]http://www.club-residencial.com/en/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bahia Boy]I'm headed here next week. Will let you know what its like. I DO know that its chica friendly (I called and asked).
[url]http://www.club-residencial.com/en/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Did you call and ask if they are having any better luck keeping the lights on?
That complex and their street are notorious for electricity problems.
good luck..........
To Member #2128,
I have to admit I am thoroughly enjoying your reports on your trip to Sosua, BC, Las Terrenas and all around the DR! You write well, and your style suggests that you took in the country at your own pace and enjoyed your time there and your experiences. Very nice work! :)
I just wanted to make a few comments. I did not enjoy my recent trip to Sosua. (Hey, I'm being honest) As compared to 2003, I found the quality of the women to be way down, the petty street nonsense (crime, solicitation) to be way up and I thought that Sosua had lost that "electric" atmosphere that gave it it's unique and enviable reputation.
I know that in the past year the north coast (incl. Sosua) has been inundated by Haitian immigrants who have escaped near anarchy in their native country, and they have added substantively to the increase in crime and poverty. I also said that I don't find the Haitian working girls attractive at all. (Of course this is just my personal subjective opinion)
Since I've returned I've received quite a few pm's. As usual most of the pm's are asking my advice on Santo Domingo and Curacao. Others were from guys who agreed with me about how Sosua had declined in the past three years and thanked me for my candor.
There was however one PM that left me shaking my head. One guy suggested that the reason I'm not attracted to haitian women is because "you must not like black girls!" "Ford, if you're one of those guys who only likes really white women, its no wonder you didn't like Sosua"
Let me just set the record straight and get this off my chest. I didn't take 12 trips to the Dominican Republic and 2 trips to Jamaica because I don't like black women!! I have slept with very light skinned women to very dark skinned women and every skin tone in between and I just like beautiful women!! It makes NO difference to me what color a women's skin is - if a girl is beautiful she is beautiful! :)
I don't find Haitian women attractive in general because of their facial features. Member #2128 made mention of a Haitian girl that he met at the beach that he described as "thin and gorgeous" . He went on to say that she sort of "looked Somalian"
Now I would love to see a picture of that girl, and I'm sure she is quite attractive but subjectively (to my taste) I don't think that is a girl that I would be attracted to. It however, has nothing to do with the color of her skin. I have created a picture in my mind of a women who is "very attractive and has an appearance that is consistent with someone who might come from eastern Africa (Somalia, Kenya) and I don't think I would find that attractive.
I have however, met and spent time with very dark skinned Dominican and Colombian women over the past several years and I think they are perhaps the most beautiful and sexiest women on the planet!
People are attracted to the people they are attracted to!
(thanks for letting me rant)
cheers,
FORD
[QUOTE=Sattamon]"the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad."
Surprised to hear someone who is dissappointed w/ Morra Mai. They had the best food and prices in Sosua when I was there in 2002 and 2 months ago when I was there. We ate there for breakfast, lunch and dinner and found the food and service great. And the prices were the best part - i'd have been willing to pay more![/QUOTE]
I like the food there too... though Rocky's is hard to beat for breakfast...
Member 2128:
Restaurants in the DR all charge. . . .or should charge 28% tax on top of the bill.
18% is ITBIS and 10% is sort of an included gratuity that goes to the wait staff etc.
Rockys absolutely does not have 2 different prices depending on an english or spanish menu. Their ribs are famous and very reasonably priced.
As far as the restaurant and shop girls in sosua not being putas. . . . . .sort of a grey area there. Many girls realize the best way to meet clients is to work at a bar. They get a small salary, some tips and if the customer pays a salida, they make extra money. The amount of waitresses in Sosua that are not "available" is very few.
In bigger cities and less touristy spots there are plenty of waitresses that are non pro. If the bar charges a salida. . . .she is pretty much a hooker.
Unfortunately, this will be my final "on-site" report...my 19 day adventure in the DR has come to an end and I know, sadly, it will be much too long before I'm able to make another trip.
Ford, thanks for your comments and compliments. I've been enjoying your reports and your good will on this board for some time. The positive attitude you convey has been an inspiration when it came time for me to make a contribution here.
Basically, I guess that everyone has the the kind of trip and experience in Sosua (and the rest of the DR) that's right for them. Some think that Rocky's breakfasts are something special, some think that paying a 28% tax on a U.S. priced dinner in no problem, when there are are other, less tourist oriented restaurants that don't charge the tax. Who am I to judge what's best for EVERYONE? Maybe the point is that there are many choices available and each visitor gets to choose what they like best.
The same is true for the girls. There are opportunities for a variety of experiences, with a variety of girls, whether they be Haitian or Dominican, light or dark. It's whatever turns you on. Given the choice, I tend to gravitate toward the darker chicas. But that's just me. And I was not disappointed in Sosua. On any given day or night, anything was possible.
The gamble for me was whether or not I would have a positive, enthusiastic, energetic encounter, or one that was all "sales pitch" with not much delivered, or even worse, problematic and troublesome. This does happen! For instance, a number of times, after the fact, a girl would ask for more money that had been agreed upon (I never paid more than 1000) and would keep insisting, and badgering you for an extra cinentos. In the beginning I got engaged in the process of argument and got angry, then I learned to ignore it and say "no mas" and take it in stride, without getting too emotional. More or less, ignoring the request seemed to work much better than trying to justify the fact that you had agreed upon a price beforehand.
Finally, I do want to recommend CLUB RESIDENCIAL, which a few here have asked about. The staff (and SECURITY GUYS) are your friends, the rooms (actually small apartments!) are kept up and everything works fine. The location is convenient and quiet. I'd go back without any hesitation.
If anyone has any particular questions about anything re: Sosua or Boca Chica, I'll do my best to provide the information I have from my own experience.
#2128
Just return from sosua on Saturday and had a fantastic time as usual. I stayed in an all-inclusive and my mongering adventures wereon the main stretch of pedro clisante, the small bars, discos and restaurants.
Durind the day I would walk on the main street and would find many chicas hangin around the many local bars and restaurants, just make eye contact and the response would be fantastic.
During the evening the discos are jumping especially the classico, After 11 many more girls would show up and the disco upstairs would be packed. Again, just make eye contact and let the action begin.
You can take the girl out of the disco without paying a bar fine and head for the sort time hotel calypso- 300pesos.
Have fun guys and don, t spoil the girls too much.
[QUOTE=Ford]To Member #2128,
There was however one PM that left me shaking my head. One guy suggested that the reason I'm not attracted to haitian women is because "you must not like black girls!" "Ford, if you're one of those guys who only likes really white women, its no wonder you didn't like Sosua"
Let me just set the record straight and get this off my chest. I didn't take 12 trips to the Dominican Republic and 2 trips to Jamaica because I don't like black women!! I have slept with very light skinned women to very dark skinned women and every skin tone in between and I just like beautiful women!! It makes NO difference to me what color a women's skin is - if a girl is beautiful she is beautiful! :)
FORD[/QUOTE]
I have personally seen a pic of Ford between two very dark skinned women. He looked like a very happy Oreo cookie. So I would have to believe him.
New rules in DR. Everything closes at midnight exept friday and saturday when they will be allowed to keep open until 2 oclock. The police enforces the law, it was a big police action in Sosua last night.
[QUOTE=Vagabond]New rules in DR. Everything closes at midnight exept friday and saturday when they will be allowed to keep open until 2 oclock. The police enforces the law, it was a big police action in Sosua last night.[/QUOTE]
This is huge.... will hurt business... but you close earlier and get to keep them longer
Well it one thing to close down early on the other hand how safe is it if they have to send out 10,000 of police and military to enforce it? Any crime fellow mongers?
Have friend that called me today... just got back and he said the last couple of days were fun... more action on the beach and they were really aggressive and moderate priced around 11 pm....
That sounds good to me ... I can get some sleep.... or more sex :)
For a first timer in the DR, which would you recommend. Quality is paramount. Thanx
[QUOTE=mrmorton]For a first timer in the DR, which would you recommend. Quality is paramount. Thanx[/QUOTE]
For ease and selection I would say Sousa....
[QUOTE=mrmorton]For a first timer in the DR, which would you recommend. Quality is paramount. Thanx[/QUOTE]
If as you say quality is paramount. Santo Domingo, hands down.
For ease of movement, Escort King is correct, Sosua is far and away the easier destination for a first timer.
[QUOTE=mrmorton]For a first timer in the DR, which would you recommend. Quality is paramount. Thanx[/QUOTE]
I hope this helps!
-Helpmann ;)
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[QUOTE=MrMorton]For a first timer in the DR, which would you recommend. Quality is paramount. Thanx[/QUOTE]
I agree with Ford, if quality is paramount go to SD - or even better: skip the DR and go to Brazil.
They are no 10s hanging on the trees but a lot of solid 7s and 8s are around.
[quote=crazysunny69]obviously i agree with ford.
santo domingo blows sosua away. you cannot compare the two. its like comparing miami with bangor maine.
santo domingo has a population anywhere from 3-4 milion vs sosua which has less tha 50k.
cheers,
crazysunny[/quote]
i'm not here to argue with my betters, c.s. who lives in the dr, if i remember correctly... or with ford, who is the monger's monger, but to provide some perspective from my own experience in both places.
first off, if you're fluent in spanish i'm sure that sd holds many pleasant chica surprises in the streets and cafes, where a conversation can be started that goes beyond "como te llamas?" however, if you're getting by on high school spanish and can't really understand the language when it's spoken at the rapid speed of an average dominican, you'll be at a loss when it comes to creating monger opportunity, other than picking up aggressive hard-core hookers that hang at the casinos, walk the malecon, or can be found in some seedy bars.
people here often talk of the possibility of girls from the university. however, if you're over 35 and don't speak fluently, that option of chatting up 20 year old non-pros is more or less off the table i imagine. i never tried it
the other opportunity for the non-fluent monger in sd, is the casa de citas, basically *****houses, where there are very attractive young women that get 2500 pesos ($78 usd) + cabfare and tip. you look over the line-up, pick one, take her home, do the deed and say goodby. bottom line is maybe close to $100 usd when you add it all up---for a one-shot hour of so of very professional playtime. imho, that's like shooting fish in a barrel. no sport. no fun. just a biological release.
so while the experienced spanish speaking guys can find a good time in s.d with totally hot dominicanas, the non-fluent, middle aged guys like myself, start to feel lonely and abused ($$$) in the big city.
on the other hand, like ford said and c.s. agreed, sosua is more in your face, the chicas are more visable and available. a minimal spanish is not a big deal when it comes to meeting chicas on the street, in the bars, at the clubs (merengue bar!) and at the little counter restaurants and bar/cafes. they are everywhere. they are friendly, sometimes almost too friendly, and you have a solid variety and large number to choose from in any given place on any given day. so what's the problem, when you factor in that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" quotient? each day becomes an adventure. you never know where and how you might meet your next new friend!
the price in sosua for a st get together of several hours, as of two weeks ago, was 1000 pesons ($32) "no problema...", which is helpful when you want to sample the grand buffet during your stay without groaning with indigestion when you add up the cash withdrawals from your atm.
the other factor that no one has mentioned about sd is the cab drivers. you do need them to get around if you don't know the city and they always ask for way too much money! they're asking the eqivalent (300-350 pesos) $10-15 usd for a 5 minute ride. and screw the gas price! these guys, are way outside the dominican economy, when it comes to over-charging the gringos. i walked my ass off in the heat of the city to avoid these bastards. in sosua...cabdrivers not needed. motocoches....20 pesos in town if you don't feel like taking the walk.
so while you may very well find some sophisticated, gorgeous urban gem who will hop on your rod in the city, if you speak a fluent spanish....in sosua you'll have a more economic, go-go-go sex adventure with more than enough chica time and with girls who are attractive (to you!), unless, of course, you're looking for.....who knows what?
strickly imho,
#2128
President Leonel orders bars to close at midnight
In Sosúa, Punta Cana and other tourist locations you don't really notice it much, but according to the government and church leaders, the levels of criminality have risen considerably in the Dominican Republic. The drugs trade and its associated problems seem to be the main cause.
President Leonel Fernández The President of the Republic, Leonel Fernández, has therefore decided to take drastic measures in order to solve these problems.
Firstly an extra 10,000 police officers and military have been put on the streets to reduce crime levels. Secondly, a new law has been passed changing the opening times for bars and discos. From Tuesday 25 July, all establishments selling alcoholic beverages, i.e. the bars, discos and restaurants, must close at midnight. At the weekends they may stay open until 2am.
Yesterday evening the entire main street of Sosúa (Pedro Clisante) was in chaos. Lots of tourists were disappointed to find that the Merengue Bar and D'Classico were forced to switch off the music and close the bars at midnight. There were plenty of police officers around to ensure that this new law was applied correctly.
A protest meeting has been organised for Wednesday morning in Casa Marina Resort, to which every entrepreneur in Sosúa is invited. Plans will be drawn up to try and persuade the President that this law should be more flexible in the tourist resort towns.
thought i'd share my experience on here too...
just spent 16 days and 15 nights in d.r. - my shortest trip ever since 2003 - and this time it was a little bit different. first, it was really like a vacation. for those of you who don't know, i'm usually mixing business and pleasure while i am back in town and going online morning, noon, and night, returning phone calls, etc.... in other words, doing some light "work". this time i only went online twice and had 2 business meetings. money didn't matter as it was me having a great time that mattered the most. second, i spent 13 of the 15 nights with the same chica. you'll see why later. third, i had no car troubles except for the one time my crv over heated. fourth, i didn't change my return ticket like i normally do and stay an extra month or two or three.
the weather was mix - sun and clouds with light rains every now and then.
the exchange rate was ok - usually around 32.30 to 32.50 pesos to 1 usd.
the girls were plentiful in the discos even with the new ley taking effect. some of you may have read about this already here or somewhere else, but for those of you who haven't, the ley will probably be reversed completely back to the way it was originally or be modified to allow party time until 1 or 2am every day of the week. if you ask me, i wish it was pushed to 1am every day. i like the fact that all the fun and hunting gets pushed up some and that i can now enjoy my entire day ahead after a night filled with drinking and fucking.
note: i only saw 3 or 4 new girls that i would have done if i was not shacked up those nights with this one chica. no problem - i'll get them next time and will be sure to add them to my carefully noted to do list. these girls may be new to me but old to many of you. sorry no pics of these 3 or 4. remember that i havent been to d.r. since early april when i last spent 4 months in town.
it was nice seeing some good old friends again: tampa, jim ship, fantasy, the sage, escott, and others.
now to the good stuff....
the rest of this report won't be as detailed as many of the fine reports found on here, but i will post a brief note about each experience that led up to each chica. no phone numbers or names will be shared. sorry, however, i might honor a request for an equal trade of chica information based on looks, enjoyment factor, and price. ya never know.
lastly, all useful comments are always welcome, but those based on hate, money management, and the like are not.
i arrived on time and immediately called one of my lady friends. she came over within minutes and brought her sister with her. she's 19 and her sister is 18. sorry no pics of her sister since she sent her sister home and came with me instead. i asked if her sister was my welcome back present and she looked at me and pointed and said if i want her sister that i was to forget about her completely.
the villa i help manage was still undergoing some heavy renovations, but no sweat, i checked into one of the private apartments i also help manage directly behind it for convenience purposes.
please view photo attachements of my lady friend - linda1,2,3,4, and 7.
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i arrived on a tuesday and didn't want to count on the quality at the discos so i decided to do the pop run. thanks to fantasy and jim ship for inviting me.
we started out meeting 3 girls in puerto plata, but one had to go home. she just got off of english school and is a nice little spinner. she's been added to my well thought out to do list for my quick return. fantasy and jim ship hooked up with the two who could stay out and party all night. the one chica doing all the introductions that i have known for just over 3 years was surprised to find out that i knew her 2 other friends. i am glad to say that i know a lot of the keepers (no, not marrying - the ones that you wouldnt mind having repeat sessions with).
we then went over to frank's and had some girls play with me and everyone else and one took her claim on me. nice stuff, but i decided to pass and see what was at crystals and here is where it began.
i first had this tall model type sit with me and we talked but it was like talking to a cow. no communication - no good vibes - no good signs - means no salida with me. next.
i saw this one and she immediately put on the show. i liked the ease of the way things were going so i picked her. here she is with one of my dominican friends posing for the camera.
please see attached photos linda 9 and 10.
the first pic kinda of gives you an idea of why i chose her - nice sized tits, lips and petite. we were all in the disco and i decided to stay and drink some more and she did too. we left about an hour later and it was then about 3:30am. we're both drunk and wasted out of our minds. we get to the apartment and she sits for a minute and stares off as i tell her it's time to play, but then she stands up and says "me go now... money for me?"
what the fuck? is she out of her mind? my first night and she wants to put on this show and then bounce? well, yes. i decided not to get ugly, gave her some money, and she left. this was how my first night ended. it wasn't bad since i had a great time on the pop run and at the disco with this chic but it wasnt great either.
lesson to be learned: don't let the girls drink too much because then they just might shut down on you too and decide to bounce or just sleep it off. i find that many don't like having sex while they are wasted drunk and would rather wait for the morning to come to begin the fun. so now instead of getting two solid sessions (one at the night and one in the morning), you now are left with just one in the morning.
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i must have woken up around noon the next day and i was shooken up for a quick second. no one was sleeping next to me. i thought she had left on her own with some of my things, but then i remembered the nights events. i was glad she left.
note: if i did bang her drunk, it would have been at minimal effort and at minimal enjoyment for the high price.
i went to go get a bite to eat somewhere. i usually ate at suzanna's (local dominican food right next to leo's barber shop and plaza allegria) for 3 pieces of chicken stew, white rice, beans, and 2 juices for about 120 pesos or at la roca off the members menu for #2 - tostadas with chicken, #9 - bbq spare ribs with mashed potatoes, or the cheesburger with fries for about 155 pesos plus the cost of drinks. i also had to try the mixed seafood platter at morua mai for 495 pesos and say hello. it was so good that i had it twice on two different occasions. bailey's (the surf n turf was excellent on both occasions as well for 495 pesos) and alberto's (for real italian pizza 180 pesos for ham and cheese pizza or pasta) was another eating spot for me.
i then hit m&m massage parlor for 500 pesos. it was good as usual. on many occasions i left my boxers on and then she would take them off for that added personal sensual touch. me like!
i got a phone call from another lady friend and we chatted for a bit and she said she was on her way to sosua. i said ok, i'll be at the house. she shows up with her friend that she has always been talking about that is real pretty, etc.
here they are (the new friend is on the left). please see attached photos linda 11 and 12.
now i had two nice looking chicas with me my second afternoon back in town just like it was yesterday. i quickly made the decision to take them both back to my apartment.
i ended giving my friend (pictured on the right) two tops with some of that glittery design on them the girls always like and a pair of womens shoes that were in fashion i brought down.
note: most of the girls are either a size 7 or 7.5 in shoes from my experiences and a small in tops so it was easy to pick and choose and these items always make a great gift at very cheap prices.
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note: this one is about the quality of chicas i have the pleasure of meeting and getting to know a lot better than the average traveler. i think once you are able to spend months at a time in any particular destination for pleasure, you have the time to sort them out, be picky, and find the gems and diamonds in the rough, which will hopefully then lead to a more developed relationship with these quality women and allow for more reasonable prices and special treatment and priveleges. plus being younger and fluent is always an added plus!
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so now i have both chicas back in my apartment and i'm thinking to myself should i do both of them at the same time or what. many of you would say hell yea! but i decided to spend time with each of them separately first to enjoy each one individually, and then maybe go at it with them both.
note: i'd normally post nudes here, but i've decided not to post any nudes of chicas that i have some sort of relationship with. someone always tells.
after having some fun with my lady friend, i invite this one to come in. please see attached photos linda13.
i really started to get turned on by her but i was tired so i asked her to strip for me so i could see what i am getting when i call her the next day. i told her that she didnt have to, but it would be nice and smart of her to in order to get me really interested. she did and looked real nice!
i was hungry so i invited both of them to come with me have dinner at morua mai. took a taxi over. i ate the mixed seafood platter and you know what they had.... camarones, not the order of 4 or 6, but 10 each. no problem. i was really enjoying the company and time i had with them. the total bill with drinks included was about 2,700 pesos for three.
i saw the man himself and was warmly welcomed. i gave him him the package i brought from state side for him. he was happy.
note: be true friends with the right people through thick and thin and you'll be well connected in no time.... maybe.
we then went to bailey's for some ice cream and after dinner drinks. i called my other dominican friend over and the jeep arrives. we drive to pop and drop the girls off and then hit franks and cristals. i saw some cute girl at frank's, but then realized she had no ass. where did it go i asked my friend. we laughed and finished our drinks and headed to cristals.
i saw the party pooper again but didnt say anything to her. after another round of drinks, we headed out back to sosua to search for the perfect chica for me for the night. i had my doubts.
to be continued in part ii...
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note: about my experience with the chica that wanted to leave early without doing anything and money... we just had a great time at cristals and then at the disco. she wanted to leave and asked for money. we didn't do anything. i did not feel like getting ugly and having any sort of confrontation. some girls can get stupid and start throwing shit and guess who pays for it at the end. i gave her some money. i forget how much, but it was enough to get her home i suppose.
again, this was more of a vacation for me unlike my other trips where money was not an issue.
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so, where was i?
hit cristals again my second night as i did not want to take my chances at the disco and possibly get stuck with something below my standards. i saw the party pooper again but didnt say anything to her. after another round of drinks, we headed out back to sosua to search for the perfect chica for me for the night. i had my doubts.
my corner section was taken, but no problem. the guys at the disco hooked me up again and had me two tall chairs and a table set up in no time. i was just sitting back and drinking and chatting with my dominican friend and who do i see stroll in and almost ram me out of my chair? tampabukkake. he's back again. it was good seeing you again tampa.
next my friend says hello to a fat chic who he knows and this fat chic has a hot hot hot chica with her. i ask my friend who she is and he in turn asks the fat one. that's her sister! i play cool and look her up and down with out getting too excited and showing it.
she had me when she accepted my invitation to sit with me. a real beauty in my book. this is the one i spent 13 out of the possible 15 nights with.
please see attached photos linda 15.
we continued to drink a little bit more and chat and she seemed a little cold at first, but that was because she doesnt like to do this kind of stuff - ya know, meet strangers of all types for a fling to get paid - and she didnt know what to make of me either since she never seen me before. remember that i haven't been in town for 3 months. she just started showing up every now and then after i left in mid april. i thought of her as a regular girl just visiting, but after some questions i always ask them, i knew the deal. i didn't know i would like her so much as to spend 13 out of a possible 15 nights with her though.
by the way, she is wearing one of the gifts i brought down.
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she is all women. i kept telling her "tu eres un mujer completo". we both smiled. she reminded me a little bit of a colombian chic and a lot like penelope cruz with that sex appeal and sophistication to her. damn she is fine.
we spent the next days and night having about 2 or 3 sessions in the day and 1 or 2 each night she turned me on so much. no kidding.
when we'd hit the discos, i would just sit down and sip my drink while looking at her ass bounce up and down and side to side to the reggaeton that was playing while feeling it all over from the bottom to the insides on out. wouldn't you?
here's what i'm talking about. please see attached photos linda 18 and 19.
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note: the one i spent 13 out of the possible 15 nights with just made things so much more easier for me. she got down on my program and knew when i wanted to bang and had no problem with me wanting it 3 or 4 times a day and i didn't have to worry about her stealing shit from me. this relationship also helped me avoid chasing after some rat in the disco and finding out at the end that it wasn't worth it. not much to choose from by the way - as i mentioned in my first post, maybe 3-4 that i would consider during my trip.
in summary, the sex was great, the partying was good, and her company and attitude was excellent.
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the sage [known on here under a different user name] then arrived and it was good seeing him as always. i normally run into him on his every trip.
one funny episode fit for a sitcom scene was when the sage was haggling with 3 haitian shoe shine boys and him saying "no, get away, no quiero ... no, no necesito, comprende... you want me to tell you in english..." it went on for about 90 seconds but by the time i was ready to get it all on film, it was too late. he finally got rid of the little poor boys just looking to make 5 or 10 pesos. both my chica and i were laughing hard at the scene and so was the sage when he realized what i wanted to do. i tried calling the shoe shine boys back but they gone off somewhere.
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i decided to rent a crv for a week and negotatiated the price down to $40 usd a day and the deductable down to $1,000 usd from $1,500 - i will next try to get the ded. down to $500 - hey, ya never know. all in all, a good guy and place to rent from. being mobile made things easier and more attractive. brought down some favorite cds of mine and one that i made filled with the latest reggaeton classics.
as i reread this thread....
i recall the next time she came back with some extra clothes so she wouldn't have to go back to pop each day. one time she ran out of clean panties and i told her that was ok, she doesnt need them with me - me like without them on anyways.
i swung by la roca and couldnt find any good parking so i went down the beach road and found one. i decided to do something different and have lunch on the beach. total bill with pina colodas, soft drinks, and one double order of grilled sea bass and one order of seafood pasta was 1,500 pesos. i was blinded by the nice puffy naked pussy i saw through out my meal. she wasn't wearing any panties. life is good. real good.
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she really got my attention the first time and kept it going as she was able to stay consistent with the snug and sexy outfits, sex drive, and overall great attitude.
here's another pic of the one. please see attached photo linda 21.
so we continued to bang at 9am, 12noon, break for lunch, and then again at 2pm before we would just chill until dinner time where afterwards we'd hit the casino and disco daily. we banged again when we got back from the disco as well. it was great!
the above was my daily and nightly routine with her for the 14 days and 13 nights we spent together.
note: i had a problem with the runs and she could tell i wasn't going to the bathroom just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. it must have been my pale face that gave it away. she had the solution - alka selzter with squeezed lemon juice after each meal and 1 tablet of prodom every 8 hrs while the symptoms were still around. 1 tablet of prodom costs about 20 pesos or so. after taking the prodom, no more runs. take serious note as this may happen to you.
after a night of drinking, i'd replenish my system the following day with bottled water and 32oz bottles of gatorade.
i just have a little bit more to tell about my trip which includes one bad experience with a chica. it happened when the 13 nighter had a monday night off with me and i went to the disco in search of the perfect chica.
to be continued...
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so after partying 6 straight days and 5 full nights with the one, she gets a monday night off. i get another massage at m&m, do my stroll, and call some lady friends to no luck. i eventually hit the disco and it's close to 2:30am and i haven't found anyone to my liking until i see this one pictured below. i have been eyeing her for the last 4 or 5 nights. loved her face and tits on display and the sweatness to her.
here is her pic. please view attached photo linda16 and 17.
i asked her what she wanted to drink and she said a baileys. i told the water to put a shot of vodka in it. he did. i told her we'd leave once she sips that drink down.
the deal was for 3 pops and tln. she said ok. we went back to my apartment and started to bang. after 10 minutes of banging away, she stopped and asked me if i was going to cum yet and to hurry up! i tried to edecuate her and tell her that guys dont like that sort of talk and some guys would just throw her ass right out by the hair with nothing, but i wanted to be nice about it and finish. remember - i've been eyeing this chica for 4 or 5 nights now and i was determined to have my way with her.
we switch positions where i'm on top and i placed a pillow under her butt to elevate her pussy and slide and penetrate it a lot better and after another 5 hard and concentrated minutes, one pop down and 2 more to go.
i then asked her if i was going to have this problem with her in the morning time with her asking me every five minutes if i was going to cum or not and to hurry up. gentlemen, i can normally take anywhere from 30-60 minutes under the perfect circumstances. she stared off into space and turned to me and said in spanish that it is better she go home and for me to pay her. i explained to her that we had a verbal agreement prior to coming here and that deal was now off since she couldn't come through with her side of the deal. she demanded her money and all of it.
i asked her to leave the room as i went to lock up my valuables and get two five hundred peso notes out. before we left, i asked her if i could take her pic so i can remember how pretty she was, etc. she stupidly said ok. i took the pics to warn you guys about her.
i offered to drive her to her place in charamicos. it must have been around 4am by now. she first asked to stop by the disco, but it was dead, so we proceeded to her place. i told her she can have the gift i set aside and she looked at it and said in spanish that "i dont go out with gringos for less than 2,000 pesos" in a very nasty way. i tried to explain the deal but she wouldnt listen. she ended ripping up the two five hundred pesos notes into pieces and told me to go fuck myself, blah blah blah.
her passenger side door was opened as she stood there and started to tear afterwards with her standing outside. she then threatened to break all my windows and my head if she just had a bottle or a rock in her hand. as soon as i noticed her turning to the side looking at the ground for something, i switched gears and speed off, the door shut by itself and she did hit the jeep and dented it with a rock she threw. what a fucked up *****.
be warned gentlemen.
i didn't want to get ugly. i was feeling very very at peace during this trip without the least bit of stress and i did not want to ruin it for anyone, so i used the friendlier approach to things. i would normally drag her ass out by her hair and call the security guard to keep her out and then put her in jail for throwing the rock at my jeep and denting it plus have her banned from classicos. but i was being nice and didn't want to take the only means of earning money away from her.
p.s. i later found out that she went out with a close friend of mine and he had a very similar problem with her and at that time, she wanted even more money and was screaming and yelling, etc. stay away from this one.
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It was nice hanging with you again. And where can i purchase some of those "Sugar Wants" tops. I thought it was a nice touch. She was a quality lady. See you this fall in our home away from home......
Nice Pics as well...........
[QUOTE=Mister]P.s. I later found out that she went out with a close friend of mine and he had a very similar problem with her and at that time, she wanted even more money and was screaming and yelling, etc. Stay away from this one.
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Great reports NYC! As a first time poster but a long time lurker I was happy to read your report as I have been planning a trip back to the DR. I spent 7 yrs in Santiago as a teen until my family moved back to Canada in 1982. I suspect much has changed. Needless to say, as a teen, I was not there to hobby, but I certainly will be this time!
I have a few questions, for anyone who wishes to reply and I welcome all replies!
I am planning a trip to Sosua from 19 to 26 Aug. I spent many days on this beach from ’76 to ’82, before POP opened up so I expect things will be much different. There were days I was pretty much the only person on the beach!! I digress.
To keep the post relevant, my questions are:
1) Fluency – I am still fairly fluent in Spanish, should I let on that I know the language or should I pretend not to understand so I can hear what is being said in general without their knowing?
2) Where is the best place to stay?
3) What sort of clothing is recommended? Typical tourist (shorts and T)? Dress up a bit to go out (ie dockers and golf shirt)?
4) Should I try and link up with a few other mongers to ease the learning curve? I am well versed at home but have not tried the hobby in the DR.
5) What should I be careful of?
6) How do I prevent getting ripped off (price wise) and what are the going rates?
7) Car rental - I assume will make things easier to get into POP?
I know much has been commented on throughout this board already, but I see there are a great variety of answers to these questions so I turn to those of you who are “experts”.
Lastly, I may have my two sons with me, ages 18 and 16. I plan on staying at a “regular” place (with two separate rooms) and perhaps book a “special room” for myself at another chica friendly place. The two boys are pretty much independent and will do their own thing throughout the day leaving me to “do my thing ;)”. Any recommendations on how to handle this? I sure don’t want this info getting back to the Ex or “practice wife” as I call her.
I appreciate all and any advice
Mister,
After reading your report I am ready for my next trip to Sousa.. So much for the talent has gone down in Sousa.. If you know your way around you can find some nice talent at bargain prices.. Thanks again for the hookup in March, with one of the ladies in the photos.
Can someone post a link or tell me how I can rent an apartment in this area? It would be ridiculous for me to spend $100 a day for a hotel room. Thanks.
Great reports NYC! As a first time poster but a long time lurker I was happy to read your report as I have been planning a trip back to the DR. I spent 7 yrs in Santiago as a teen until my family moved back to Canada in 1982. I suspect much has changed. Needless to say, as a teen, I was not there to hobby, but I certainly will be this time!
I have a few questions, for anyone who wishes to reply and I welcome all replies!
I am planning a trip to Sosua from 19 to 26 Aug. I spent many days on this beach from '76 to '82, before POP opened up so I expect things will be much different. There were days I was pretty much the only person on the beach!! I digress.
To keep the post relevant, my questions are:
1) Fluency - I am still fairly fluent in Spanish, should I let on that I know the language or should I pretend not to understand so I can hear what is being said in general without their knowing?
2) Where is the best place to stay?
3) What sort of clothing is recommended? Typical tourist (shorts and T)? Dress up a bit to go out (ie dockers and golf shirt)?
4) Should I try and link up with a few other mongers to ease the learning curve? I am well versed at home but have not tried the hobby in the DR.
5) What should I be careful of?
6) How do I prevent getting ripped off (price-wise) and what are the going rates?
7) Car rental - Recommended or stick to public transport?
I know much has been commented on throughout this board already, but I see there are a great variety of answers to these questions so I turn to those of you who are "experts".
Lastly, I may have my two sons with me, ages 18 and 16. I plan on staying at a "regular" place (with two separate rooms) and perhaps book a special room for myself at another chica friendly place. The two boys are pretty much independent and will do their own thing throughout the day leaving me to do my thing. Any recommendations on how to handle this? I sure don¡¦t want this info getting back to the Ex or "practice wife" as I call her.
I appreciate all and any advice
Thanks!
Please see my response in the [CAPS] after each of your questions down below in your original quoted message...
[QUOTE=Pronto91]Great reports NYC! As a first time poster but a long time lurker I was happy to read your report as I have been planning a trip back to the DR. I spent 7 yrs in Santiago as a teen until my family moved back to Canada in 1982. I suspect much has changed. Needless to say, as a teen, I was not there to hobby, but I certainly will be this time!
I have a few questions, for anyone who wishes to reply and I welcome all replies!
I am planning a trip to Sosua from 19 to 26 Aug. I spent many days on this beach from '76 to '82, before POP opened up so I expect things will be much different. There were days I was pretty much the only person on the beach!! I digress.
To keep the post relevant, my questions are:
1) Fluency - I am still fairly fluent in Spanish, should I let on that I know the language or should I pretend not to understand so I can hear what is being said in general without their knowing? [I WOULD JUST TAKE COMMAND FROM DAY ONE WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE SPANISH LANGUAGE]
2) Where is the best place to stay? [SOME PEOPLE RECOMMEND PLACES LIKE HOTEL EUROPA - BUT I DONT LIKE IT SINCE IT CAN GET KINDA LOUD WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE FROM NYC AND PHILLY COME IN TO VISIT FROM THURSDAYS-MONDAYS. I PREFER A MORE PRIVATE SETTING LIKE CLUB RESEDENCIAL - HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PLACE IS THAT THEY HAVE A ONE GUEST PER DAY RULE AND REQUIRE ALL CHICAS TO HAVE ID - SOME CHICAS JUST DONT HAVE AN ID DUE TO MANY REASONS - ONE BEING IT IS A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS TO GET ONE AND MANY ARE NOT PATIENT ENOUGH TO WAIT ON LONGGG LINES - EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE 18YO+. I HELP MANAGE PRIVATE RENTAL PROPERTIES IN SOSUA LIKE APARTMENTS WITH A POOL AND JACUZZI ON SITE WITH A VERY VERY LIBERAL GUEST POLICY - NONE AT ALL - AND SOME VILLAS IN TOWN AS WELL. TAKE A LOOK AT [url]WWW.DEALQUEST.US/RENTALS/INDEX.HTML[/url] FOR MORE DETAILS.]
3) What sort of clothing is recommended? Typical tourist (shorts and T)? Dress up a bit to go out (ie dockers and golf shirt)? [I'D BRING A CAN OF OFF SPRAY AND USE IT WHENEVER YOU WEAR SHORTS - I NORMALLY WEAR SHORTS AND A T DURING THE DAYS AND LONG PANTS AND SOME TYPE OF BUTTON DOWN OR POLO SHIRT IN THE EVENINGS/NIGHTS - WHATEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH I GUESS - ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT YOU TAKE A SHOWER AND HAVE SOME MONEY TO SPEND ON THE CHICAS]
4) Should I try and link up with a few other mongers to ease the learning curve? I am well versed at home but have not tried the hobby in the DR. [START A ROLL CALL ON HERE TO SEE WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING - IT CAN ONLY HELP MEETING UP WITH ONE OR MORE EXPERIENCED TRAVELERS TO THE D.R.]
5) What should I be careful of? [CHICA SCAMS - ALWAYS GO OUT WITH A CHICA THAT IS 18YO OR OLDER - DRUGS - STAY AWAY FROM THEM - DON'T USE THEM DOWN IN D.R. AND DO NOT ASK ABOUT THEM IN D.R.]
6) How do I prevent getting ripped off (price-wise) and what are the going rates? [TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING UPFRONT BEFORE YOU AND THE CHICA LEAVE THE BAR OR THE DISCO: PRICE, WHAT YOU WANT INCLUDED LIKE HOW MANY POPS, SOME PHOTOS, VIDEOS, ETC. - SOME PEOPLE HAVE THIS RULE OF PAYING 1000-1,500 PESOS FOR SHORT TIME AND 1,500-2,000 PESOS FOR THE NIGHT AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU SOME SORT OF GUIDELINE ON PRICE, BUT IF YOU SEE A SOLID 9 OR GOD FORBID A SOLID 10 AND SHE WANTS 2,500 OR 3,000 PESOS, GO FOR IT!!!]
7) Car rental - Recommended or stick to public transport?[DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU PLAN TO GO AND THE FREQUENCY. I LIKE PRIVATE TAXIS AND CAR RENTALS MYSELF FOR THE CONVENIENCE AND A/C. YOU MAY FIRST WANT TO LAND, CHECK IT OUT, USE TAXIS, AND THEN DECIDE ON IF YOU WANT TO RENT A CAR OR NOT. RENT FROM THE AIRPORT AND USE YOUR CREDIT CARD THAT HAS THE EXTRA CAR RENTAL ACCIDENT INSURANCE AND FOLLOW ALL THOSE GUIDELINES PROVIDED BY THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY FOR THE INSURANCE TO TAKE EFFECT]
I know much has been commented on throughout this board already, but I see there are a great variety of answers to these questions so I turn to those of you who are "experts".
Lastly, I may have my two sons with me, ages 18 and 16. I plan on staying at a "regular" place (with two separate rooms) and perhaps book a special room for myself at another chica friendly place. The two boys are pretty much independent and will do their own thing throughout the day leaving me to do my thing. Any recommendations on how to handle this? [YOU HAVE A SHORT TERM STAY HOTEL IN SOSUA CALLED CALYPSO WHICH IS LOCATED AROUND THE CORNER FROM SUPER SUPER LIQUOR STORE AND THEY CHARGE ABOUT 300 PESOS TO USE THE ROOM FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE SO WHENEVER YOU ARE OUT ON THE STROLL AND SEE SOMETHING YOU LIKE, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO USE THIS ROUTE AND THEN GO BACK TO YOUR BOYS AT THE REGULAR FAMILY ORIENTED PLACE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP] I sure don¡¦t want this info getting back to the Ex or "practice wife" as I call her.
I appreciate all and any advice[/QUOTE]
ENJOY!
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Question fellow mongers. Is the Palace still open and is John still running it? I stayed there last year and met Fantasy and RSM Man. I may covertly go there at the end of the month. If it's shut down then please recommend something similiar. Thanks in advance!
It was a pleasure finally meeting you Mister Nyc after being in DR numerous times and seeing you before and not knowing who you where it's good to put a name and a face together.
[QUOTE=Sabor]Question fellow mongers. Is the Palace still open and is John still running it? I stayed there last year and met Fantasy and RSM Man. I may covertly go there at the end of the month. If it's shut down then please recommend something similiar. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
The Palace is dump at least I think so. Try Mister Nyc place or the Europa, and also Club Residential if you want to be in ground zero of all the action.
Pana: It was nice to finally meet you too! Great suggestions on where to stay.
Again, I prefer the more private and a bit more spacious accommodations. A private apartment or villa rental is sometimes the best way to go especially when you like to live a little and don't mind spending a bit more for it all.
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[QUOTE=Mister]Again, I prefer the more private and a bit more spacious accommodations. A private apartment or villa rental is sometimes the best way to go especially when you like to live a little and don't mind spending a bit more for it all.
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MISTER NYC © 2006[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions, Mister NYC. As a general question to you or other DR/Sosua vets, have you any experience with the Hotel Voramar? I've been emailing the proprietors and looking for reviews. Any info anyone may add will be helpful in considering my accommodations.
Again, thanks!
Mr. Plumber
Is it me or does it seems like Sosua is getting worse? The reports I read here makes Sosua girls seem like street workers who like to rip people off? If a pro like Mister experiences women who rip him off what can a newbie expect? Should I even bother going to Sosua?
I stayed at the Voramar on two separate occasions.....it is a decent place, very chica friendly, about $30 a night or something close as I recall. The guys that run it (I think Dutch) are super and will help you in every way. They have a nice little bar and a simple restaurant that is very adequate.
Best advantage is they are out of the downtown area and so it is QUIET there so you can sleep when you want to. Disadvantage is the same...a short trip to downtown (only 50 cents on the motoconche) for about 3 mins. No big deal, but if you just want to stroll in the eve or go to the beach a moto is a must both ways.
I have stayed at the Europa on my last two trips and prefer that, just for proximity to the downtown and the chica bars that are literally outside the front door at Europa. At Europa it was worthwhile to ask for a room that is NOT facing the discos so you don't hear the thumping all night
If you're going to be in Sosua for a week or so, try both places out!!
Have fun....I always do!
[QUOTE=Thetsmplumber]Thanks for the suggestions, Mister NYC. As a general question to you or other DR/Sosua vets, have you any experience with the Hotel Voramar? I've been emailing the proprietors and looking for reviews. Any info anyone may add will be helpful in considering my accommodations.
Again, thanks!
Mr. Plumber[/QUOTE]
Just like ZipHead stated down below and.... Mostly frequented by the Dutch and Germans. Never heard anything bad about the place though. Never tried it though due to the location. I like to be close enough to the action but still have my quietness and space too, thus I stay at the villa or at the apartments I mentioned. Yes, I help manage them both.
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[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Is it me or does it seems like Sosua is getting worse? The reports I read here makes Sosua girls seem like street workers who like to rip people off? If a pro like Mister experiences women who rip him off what can a newbie expect? Should I even bother going to Sosua?[/QUOTE]
Yes, the girls who work on the street and sit on the stools in the bars are "street workers" who make money by attracting gringo tourists and offering up sex for a price. There will definitely be a significant number of those among them who will try to get the most money for doing the the least "work"...and when it's over, you'll feel "ripped off". On the other hand, there will also be those memorable hotties who will do what you expect, sometimes with a flair, and you will feel quite satisfied.
Part of the fun it seems and also the risk of the monger game, IMHO, is developing a 6th sense---to sense to know which ones will "scam" you and which ones will deliver all you hope for and more...and thereby, make the trip to Sosua worthwhile. As you get better at the game, you eventually begin to pick more winners than losers! But for me, it's more about me and my game, not about the girls.
When I have a "good experience" I mark it as one for me! When I have a bad one, I mark it as "the cost of doing business" and hope that it will develop my monger "intuition" to a finer edge for the next time.
However, even experienced vets like MISTER can stumble. Maybe it was her smile, maybe the tight stomach, maybe the promise of the tetas beneath the tight tee-shirt...who knows? It's often something to do with the "little head" making the decision, instead of "the big head". Or, just maybe she was a consumate "con artist". Whatever it was, IMHO, he (or any monger) missed the "red flag" that would have told him she was trouble. I believe it is this mongering skill---of seeing the "red flags"---that needs to be developed. When you start to "sense" trouble and avoid it, that's what creates more successful P4P experiences.
As I think I said in my reports from my recent trip, I was maybe doing a little better than 50/50 when it came to winners vs. losers. However, there were more scammers/con-artists in Boca Chica than in Sosua, by far...so my overall score in Sosua might have been 3 winners to 1 loser.
In the end: Practice makes perfect, right? You can't hit a home run if you don't take the swing...
#2128
[QUOTE=Mister]Just like ZipHead stated down below and.... Mostly frequented by the Dutch and Germans. Never heard anything bad about the place though. Never tried it though due to the location. I like to be close enough to the action but still have my quietness and space too, thus I stay at the villa or at the apartments I mentioned. Yes, I help manage them both.
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MISTER NYC © 2006[/QUOTE]To Mister NYC, ZipHead and the PMs I received, thanks to all. I've got several good prospects in Sosua now. My October Bday trip cannot come soon enough. Me and my Haitiana gf will have a great time. She's such a pleaser. Cannot wait.
And Mister, I must apologize for not realizing in reading this thread your interest in the villa and apartments. As a business man myself I felt like I was asking you about your competitors. Your graciousness is appreciated.
Good travels to all and 'smoke 'em if ya' got 'em.'
Mr. Plumber
Hi,
I agree with Member #2128 and it is all summed up perfectly in his first paragragh below, but let me add to why I picked her, etc.
1. Her cute natural beauty of a face
2. Her tits
3. She talked the talk and gave me the right vibes while she sat with me prior
4. She agreed to everything I wanted and smiled
Note: The problem with her started when I took more than 10 minutes. She also caused drama with my good friend. I also have another new friend who said he had no problems with her.
By the way, this is the first drama problem chica experience I have had since I started going to D.R. 3.5 years ago. She didn't rip me off. Yes, it was a tiring experience, but it ended up being a freebie ;->
Don't ever let one bad experience get in the way. Try to learn from it and move full steam ahead and onto the next chica.
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[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Is it me or does it seems like Sosua is getting worse? The reports I read here makes Sosua girls seem like street workers who like to rip people off? If a pro like Mister experiences women who rip him off what can a newbie expect? Should I even bother going to Sosua?[/QUOTE]You don't have to worry about the chicas in Sosua or BC, as long as you know the prices, they won't be able to rip you off. Also, you have to be assertive with these chicas because they know no other way, can't be too nice, they'll take advantage. After going there a few times you will get the hang of things, just remember to keep your shit in the safe and becareful of pickpockets.
Can't wait to return to this land of freedom and fun.
I was thinking as I left the island.
If I was a ***** mongering drunk I would be in paradise.
Then I said.
What am I doing back here. In this police state?
Till I return DR stay sweet and free.
Keep the girls honest guys. And remember
Have fun.
I don't speak spanish. It seems like I'm almost doomed to get ripped off. Maybe I should just go to Blackbeards.
With thinking like that, I hope their are no train tracks close to your house! (LOL ). Go to Sosua and enjoy, and stay away from that town in
egypt, Bum_ _ _ _
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]I don't speak spanish. It seems like I'm almost doomed to get ripped off. Maybe I should just go to Blackbeards.[/QUOTE]
DR Monger II: Maybe you should go to BB, but they don't speak english either! And you still arent truly guaranteed a great time.
I only like "visiting" BB, not staying, during the weekends of the Bikini contest, which is held on the last Saturday of each month. BB is too far away from it all and I have never really like the talent at that place. They occasionally get one HOT chica, but then again, I'm a picky bastard and all our tastes in quality and beauty are different.
You don't need much Spanish under your belt to have a fabulous time to begin with. Yes, it helps, but what helps a lot more is sticking to your guns about price and quality.
If you have the time, pick up a spanish english dictionary or a pocket translator to help you out on your adventure. It can end up being more fun than you thought originally.
You may also want to try Cristals, El Bohem, and what used to be called Frank's place in Puerto Plata for a ton of variety and variances in quality. The salida will range from 500-1,400 pesos to take the girl out of the place and the chicas will be happy with about 3,000 pesos for TLN.
Enjoy!
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I will have the latest curfew developments tommorow afternoon after the meeting in Santo Domingo. This meeting is concerning all areas that are patrolled by the Tourist Police only. These include Sosua, Boca Chica, Cabarete, Playa Dorado, Punta Cana, La Romana and the Malecon area of Santo Domingo and the Long Beach section in Puerto Plata. I have a friend who will be in attendence.
I speak fluent French so I'm wondering if there are a lot of nice Haitian chicas around to rent in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Fabien]I speak fluent French so I'm wondering if there are a lot of nice Haitian chicas around to rent in Sosua.[/QUOTE]
Yes, half of the working girls are.
Read my reports on my latest Sosua/POP adventure at [post]492897[/post] and Part II at [post]492903[/post]
Enjoy!
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Yes, there are a wide variety of Haitianas (mi favoritas!)to choose from in the clubs of Sosua. The Good News: At the far end of Pedro Clisante, in the opposite direction from the beach...past SUPER SUPER....past CLUB RESIDENCIAL...past the OUTDOOR BARBEQUE...just past THE LITTLE MARKET & INTERNET CAFE on the left...is a two-story hotel with an outside staircase and a large balcony on the second floor. This is a place where I found several fine working-girl Haitianas, who were staying there. It seems to be a place Haitian girls stay and congregate, especially during the day.
There is another similar place, behind a small bar that is acrosst the street from the well-known tourista restaurant BAILEY'S. It is behind a gate and consists of a few small run down buildings with rooms for rent. They were staying there as well during my recent visit in July. If you prowl around back there, you'll get lucky!
BAD NEWS: The Haitianas speak CREOLE, which is a version of French. Can you understand this patoise? I spoke neither, but when you have a mission to accomplish...you find a way!
Have a great time....BTW, the Haitianas will frequently work for LESS than the going ST rate of 1000 if you are willing to give it a try.
#2128
[QUOTE=Member #2128]
BAD NEWS: The Haitianas speak CREOLE, which is a version of French. Can you understand this patoise? I spoke neither, but when you have a mission to accomplish. You find a way![/QUOTE]Most, if not all of them speak/understand regular French also. So don't worry.
More questions.
Do the girls generally approach you when you're alone?
Where can you get massages in Sosua? How much generally?
How has the curfew affected things?
Are there any brothels in the area?
Are there any chances of them banging on the beach?
Thanks again,
I leave on Monday BTW.
Let me help you out with some answers to your questions...
1. Yes, some girls do approach you when you are lone. You should also just wave any girl you like to come over to you and say hello and buy her a drink to get things started. If you want to be real frugal about things, first talk it up before hand, then buy her a drink. A cerveza should be just fine.
2. I get massages at M&M, which is located by the Banco Popular. While facing the bank, it will be on the left hand side in the small white shopping plaza. The general cost is 500 pesos for 1 hour. For a half ass massage with BJ at the end, try La Passions Massage and Bar on the other end of the strip. The general cost is 900 pesos.
3. The curfew has just moved the party to an earlier start time. Partying at the disco now starts at say 10pm and hopefully you would plan accordingly with the new curfew in mind (closing at midnight from Sunday-Thursday) and make your pick for the night way before closing. This allows for a true TLN experience.
4. No. The closest one to one in Sosua is La Passions. One is in the works though, but no telling how long it will take to open up. It looked almost done when I was in town over 2 weeks ago. You can also hit Puerto Plata and do the circuit course (Casa Ana Mirian, Cristals, El Bohem - expect to pay more).
5. Yes, it is possible. I have. Ask before you leave with your pick. Always make everything clear up front to set expectations before hand.
Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Fabien]More questions.
Do the girls generally approach you when you're alone?
Where can you get massages in Sosua? How much generally?
How has the curfew affected things?
Are there any brothels in the area?
Are there any chances of them banging on the beach?
Thanks again,
I leave on Monday BTW.[/QUOTE]
What you said about the beach, is that concerning services during the daytime? Or is it for at night, that they'll have do a short time on the beach when its dark?
Since I'll be staying at an All-Inclusive, are there an tips you can give me to make mongering convenient (even though I'm sure you'll tell me that All-Inclusives aren't good for mongering, which I surmise).
What other entertainment in Sosua would you personally suggest?
Any interesting spots to go to outside of Sosua? A place with less tourists in the area(a place to practice my Spanish)?
Ad apart from that, is there a chance of meeting up with fellow mongers while I'm there? Is there a common ritual meeting place?(lol)
Thx as usual,
Fabien
Dear Fabien,
Let me help you out some more...
1. The beach: unless you plan on banging the chica in the water and carrying a rubber, then the night time is the only way to do it.
2. Go from bar to bar. First start out by the 4 bars near the Europa (the europa hotel bar, next to it Dominoes and Four Roses Bar and across the street, Plaza Allegria bar). Also walk the beach. I have written about this "fun" stuff and tips before. Read further down and look for my other posts you lazy guy. LOL.
3. Interesting spots outside of Sosua are only good if you know the language to begin with. Stick with Sosua and do hit the Puerto Plata clubs as I have written about before.
4. Every single male that you see in town is either a retired Canadian, German, Italian, North American or on vacation for the same purposes as you. Some like meeting up at the bars mentioned above or simply just hang out while others like La Passions. No ritual meeting places. Try them all out and say hello. Ya never know.
By the way, you can also list your exact travel dates and start a roll call on here.
Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Fabien]What you said about the beach, is that concerning services during the daytime? Or is it for at night, that they'll have do a short time on the beach when its dark?
Since I'll be staying at an All-Inclusive, are there an tips you can give me to make mongering convenient (even though I'm sure you'll tell me that All-Inclusives aren't good for mongering, which I surmise).
What other entertainment in Sosua would you personally suggest?
Any interesting spots to go to outside of Sosua? A place with less tourists in the area(a place to practice my Spanish)?
Ad apart from that, is there a chance of meeting up with fellow mongers while I'm there? Is there a common ritual meeting place?(lol)
Thx as usual,
Fabien[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much for all the info, I hope it comes in handy not just for me but for other visitors to the forum. Understandibly all these questions are probably trying your patience, so those were my last ones anyway. Thanks a lot, I'll tell you how it all goes. Again I'm leaving Monday, should be there on late Tuesday.
P.S: I knew that your experience would come in handy so I asked.
Coming down the pipeline early next week. watch DR1 for the details.
Thanks for the curfew updates. Comming down the 1st of the month.
Is the storm hitting DR today?
Is C'est la Vie Bar still open? Its kind of across from the Codetel Tower and directly across from Baileys. If so, does Isabel still work there during the days?
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Is C'est la Vie Bar still open? Its kind of across from the Codetel Tower and directly across from Baileys. If so, does Isabel still work there during the days?[/QUOTE]
Are you in love? :)
Have a pic of this "Isabel"?
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Ask two simple questions and get two stupid answers. I've only been to DR 50 or so times so I think I know something about "love" there. If you have ever been to C'est la Vie during the daytime hours during the last 5 years or more, you would know who she is. Thanks for nothing.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Ask two simple questions and get two stupid answers. I've only been to DR 50 or so times so I think I know something about "love" there. If you have ever been to C'est la Vie during the daytime hours during the last 5 years or more, you would know who she is. Thanks for nothing.[/QUOTE]
It sometimes isn't that simple. I ask because many stupid guys do fall in love while "mongering" and not knowing if you were one of them, I had to ask. If you were one of them, I'd ask to see a pic of the chica so I can tell you how many times I, my buddies, and my newest friends have banged the same chica over and over again and how she really liked it. I'm sure you understand better now.
If you are talking about that little bar and I do mean little bar right across the street from Bailey's, yes, I have walked by it, and I have had sipped down two drinks while I was there on two different occasions. My friend invited me both times otherwise I would not have gone. I do remember faces, but not the names since I never really care enought to ask when I spend such little time at dives like that. I call it a dive because I have never seen anything worth while at that place and it always looks so gloomy. I must admit though - I think I have seen a cousin of a chica friend of mine working there and I know she is HOT - cute face and petite body. Couldn't tell you anymore as I was just passing on by.
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Using hookers in a third world country is a bit risky in my opinion. There are things that you can do to reduce that risk. Here is my top ten ways to play safer when you are mongering in a foreign country.
Joy Seeker’s Safety Tips for Single Male Third World Travel
1) Don’t get too drunk. Being drunk makes you a much easier target for thugs that want too hit you over the head and take your money.
2) Even when you are traveling alone, try to hook-up with other mongers. It is not only safer, but more fun.
3) Don’t be too cheep as to your hotel selection. Make sure that the hotel you stay at has 24/7 security guard, and an electronic safe in your room. When you bring your girl home, the guard or front desk should keep the girls ID card until morning.
4) Always take taxies at night even if it is a short walk from the bar to your hotel. In fact in some places it is not that costly to rent a taxi and driver for the night, this will increase your safety greatly.
5) Don’t stay out until 3 or 4 AM. In my opinion you should be back in your hotel room with a 20 year old girl that can suck a golf ball through 10 foot of garden hose by 12 Midnight. This is not only safer, but more fun. After all you can stay out late in smoky bars and get drunk at home. What you can not do at home is get a pretty 20 year old girl in bed with you for under $100.00 (often much less) at home.
6) Do not pick-up a girl of the street. This street girl could be a pretty lady boy. Go to an trusted establishment, ie Go Go bar, beer bar, massage parlor, and pay the bar fine. After all the bar fine is going to be less than $20.00 and if you have a problem you know where the girl works, and have someone to complain too (also the bar fine insures you that the girl is a girl and that she is over 18). Being too cheep can cost you.
7) When drinking at a bar, only order beer and drink it from the bottle or can. In third world countries the DON’T DRINK THE WATER. If you order a drink with ice you are drinking the water. Also it is easier for someone to slip
something into your drink vs. a beer that you do NOT leave at the table. Yes take your beer with you when you go to the toilet
8) Have three options for getting cash – electricity may be out – ATM can not be found or is out of order—ext. Option: 1. Old fashion American Express
Travelers checks, 2. Green peaces of paper with Ben Franklins picture on it.
3 Plastic ATM cards and Credit cards. Keep most of your money in the safe in your hotel room along with your passport and Plastic. Carry a copy of your
passport with you and only enough money for the evening.
9) Do research before your trip. RTFB Read the F—ken boards
10) The most important rule I saved for last. Use your big head not your little one. Be alert to your surroundings. If you since that something not right, listen to your instinct.
11) Bring lots of condoms from home.
That's the place and probably the chica too by the way you described her. She has quite a bit of family living in El Batey and Los Charamicos. And yes, that's the dive too by the way you described it.
For me its a good place to sit in the shade and watch people going to and from the beach and they keep the Presidentes nice and cold. At night though there are some really skanky women hanging around there. I'd stay here and do fat, cigarette smoking, big mouthed tatooed American women before I'd pull something out of there at night. Neither is a pleasant thought.
Mister,
By calling this place a dump, you are being way to kind. Isn't this the place where that skinny crack ***** has worked for years? It seems like it attracks the Germans at night.
What ever happened to "The Palace" A few years ago there were a lot of reviews and pics of this place and somehow this place went downhill? What happened?
Yeah, we're talking about the same place. That's Denise. Peter the owner has been doing her for a long time. Gotta love that little w***e town.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What ever happened to "The Palace" A few years ago there were a lot of reviews and pics of this place and somehow this place went downhill? What happened?[/QUOTE]The Palace is closed. I belive the owner is staying there now.
It's up for sale.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]The Palace is closed. I belive the owner is staying there now.
It's up for sale.[/QUOTE]
I knew John was living there but did not know he had closed the place...
I'm pretty sad about the Palace closing down. I really had a great time there and John is a great host. My next trip I'll have to try somewhere else. The Palace was really accomodating and private. I did these two on my last trip.
Be safe!
What made "The Palace" go down hill? Why did John have to close it?
It might have something to do with the "morality sweep" that Leonel has promulgated. A few years ago, other hotel owner(s) envious of John's success began rumoring that he was dealing and permitting drugs to be used there. In my zillions of times in Sosua, I never saw any evidence of drugs on the premises. But under Leonel's clean up campaign, speculation, conjecture, rumor or the like regarding drugs, are enough to get a place closed down.
[QUOTE=Zip Head]I have stayed at the Europa on my last two trips and prefer that, just for proximity to the downtown and the chica bars that are literally outside the front door at Europa. At Europa it was worthwhile to ask for a room that is NOT facing the discos so you don't hear the thumping all night.[/QUOTE]On the Europa website, I see a notice that there is a $15 charge for a second person in the room. Is that a chica fee?
I will make my first trip to DR after several trips to Buenos Aires and Costa Rica. I fly into POP. Should I stay in Peurto Plata or go to Sosua? I like morning or early afternoon sessions.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What made "The Palace" go down hill? Why did John have to close it?[/QUOTE]The Palace closed due to lack of customer service. Broken toilets, cold water.
John never being there slowly eroded the business and people found other places that changed the sheets and had working a/c.
[QUOTE=Riverm]On the Europa website, I see a notice that there is a $15 charge for a second person in the room. Is that a chica fee?
I will make my first trip to DR after several trips to Buenos Aires and Costa Rica. I fly into POP. Should I stay in Peurto Plata or go to Sosua? I like morning or early afternoon sessions.[/QUOTE]Riverm,
The $15 charge is for an extra chica visit. As far as where to stay, I would recommend Europa in Sosua. I stayed in Puerto Plata one night and toured the city with a local guide. Although there are opportunities for action in Puerto Plata, I feel like sosua gives you more options for anytime action. If you stay at the Europa, all you have to do is sit on the curb near the hotel anytime and chicas will walk past and offer their services. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!!! Just like the other commentator said, Europa is in a great central location on the main strip and just blocks away from all the great bars and nightclubs. If you need further info, contact Lucifer! :)
[QUOTE=Riverm]On the Europa website, I see a notice that there is a $15 charge for a second person in the room. Is that a chica fee?
I will make my first trip to DR after several trips to Buenos Aires and Costa Rica. I fly into POP. Should I stay in Peurto Plata or go to Sosua? I like morning or early afternoon sessions.[/QUOTE]
Great! Why don't you just call or email Diego, the owner, of Europa. They get these questions all the time and know what goes on.
You should definately stay in Sosua for the easy access to it all.
What are your exact dates?
Enjoy!
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Anywhere in Sousa is handy.... but the Europa is definitely very strategic. Mornings you can catch the girls leaving the overnights... afternoon I would say the beach and/or Passions for a relaxing massage with an oral finish for $30... and the women are take out as well... they finish early and you can work them to a club and then your bed....
These things could have been easily fixed. He could have hired someone to do it?
[QUOTE=Guthrie]The Palace closed due to lack of customer service. Broken toilets, cold water.
John never being there slowly eroded the business and people found other places that changed the sheets and had working a/c.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]These things could have been easily fixed. He could have hired someone to do it?[/QUOTE]John was working on a condo project that took time away from The Palace.
Also having the same chicas around every day was getting boring with some.
[QUOTE=Mister]Great! Why don't you just call or email Diego, the owner, of Europa. They get these questions all the time and know what goes on.
You should definately stay in Sosua for the easy access to it all.
What are your exact dates?
Enjoy!
MISTER NYC ©2006[/QUOTE]I sent a list of little questions to a Mr. Sterr, who answered my first email.
If that doesn't work, I'll try to contact Diego directly. In the past, I've had lots of trouble with reservations in Latin America, so I like to get everything in writing in advance.
I'll be there Oct. 13-16. I tend to monger alone, but I always enjoy some good conversation between the main events.
I do love sex in the morning. The idea of catching the TLN chicas as they leave others' rooms is something I have never thought about. Does anyone else have ideas for sex from 9 to noon? If I make a date for the next morning with a chica at a bar, will she show up?
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[QUOTE=Mister]Great! Why don't you just call or email Diego, the owner, of Europa. They get these questions all the time and know what goes on.
You should definately stay in Sosua for the easy access to it all. _________________ MISTER NYC c2006[/QUOTE]Diego at Hotel Europa gave thorough answers to many emailed questions, from threesomes to air conditioning to payments, so I will be staying there.
I especially like sex in the morning, especially threesomes with alert and eager chicas. Also, I found in Costa Rica and Buenos Aires that I tended to have more fun with part-time chicas who had regular jobs or who went to school and who just wanted some extra money for themselves, their kid (s), and their mom. They tended to avoid places that Uncle Pedro could see them, but you could find them in places where it was clear that they were working. They tended not to speak English, and my rule to avoid all English-speaking chicas has paid off well in recent trips.
Does anyone have suggestions as to where the semi-pros might hang out? Indeed, is the pursuit of semi-pros a worthwhile thing in Sosua and nearby communities? Is the beach a good place? Any particular bar?
Is it a good strategy to make arrangements with chicas in bars at night to visit me the next morning? Will they provide phone numbers so I can call in advance to see if they are really going to show up? What would be the no-show rate? Is it possible this curfew policy could actually be a good thing for a morning monger like me?
I know the answers to these questions probably depend on my Spanish. I can communicate, slowly, but lack skills with verb tenses.
[QUOTE=Riverm]Diego at Hotel Europa gave thorough answers to many emailed questions, from threesomes to air conditioning to payments, so I will be staying there.
I especially like sex in the morning, especially threesomes with alert and eager chicas. Also, I found in Costa Rica and Buenos Aires that I tended to have more fun with part-time chicas who had regular jobs or who went to school and who just wanted some extra money for themselves, their kid (s), and their mom. They tended to avoid places that Uncle Pedro could see them, but you could find them in places where it was clear that they were working. They tended not to speak English, and my rule to avoid all English-speaking chicas has paid off well in recent trips.
Does anyone have suggestions as to where the semi-pros might hang out? Indeed, is the pursuit of semi-pros a worthwhile thing in Sosua and nearby communities? Is the beach a good place? Any particular bar?
Is it a good strategy to make arrangements with chicas in bars at night to visit me the next morning? Will they provide phone numbers so I can call in advance to see if they are really going to show up? What would be the no-show rate? Is it possible this curfew policy could actually be a good thing for a morning monger like me?
I know the answers to these questions probably depend on my Spanish. I can communicate, slowly, but lack skills with verb tenses.[/QUOTE]
If you are in Sousa they are around during the day in the stores and offices etc.... but you can just grab most of the fresher looking ones and choose one to spend time with much easier... but if you need a project off you go......
Riverm: Just get to Europa. Hopefully you'll arrive during the day so that you can take a long walk and get your bearings. Just go out the front door of the hotel and turn right. Sosua awaits. The town isn't that large. You'll find semi-pros all over town at any time of day. Don't worry about your Spanish. If you don't find what you're looking for, take a pass. More will be around shortly and at night, its sometimes difficult to make a choice because of the multitude of women.
If I was a first timer there and know what I know now, I would stay away from Four Roses, the bar next to it, the Hatian place across the street, the Cowgirl Bar, Central Hotel and C'est la Vie. There are plenty of other places to find some prime women. Remember, you get what you pay for. Beach cruising during the day is a must. My personal preferences are Siempre Sol and the Shark Bar but there are plenty of other places on the beach with women.
All over town, watch for pick pockets. Bring only as much money as you need, don't flash it and keep it in a buttoned or zippered pocket. If any woman even touches you after approaching, odds are she's a thief. If they grab your arm, forcefully break their hold. If they approach you, set your space and keep them away. The "nice girls" in Sosua wouldn't do that.
No drinks, cigarettes or money to those that ask for it. Europa has a safe in every room. Use it. If you take a girl out to dinner, don't take her to a nice place as she'll just order the most expensive thing on the menu. A mid-priced place will be fine as she'll be eating better than she has for a week. If you're not interested in having a girl hang around, tell her to leave. If she insists on money to leave, then you leave. If she won't leave Europa, merely call security. Treat the employees at Europa well and they'll bend over backwards for you on your next trip.
For a newbie, I'd recommend staying out of Los Charamicos at night. El Batey is much safer with more gringos on the street. Don't bring or buy any "recreational drugs" as your first drug offense is 5 years in a Dominican prison. Don't get so drunk at night so that you're an easy target.
Don't drink the water or even brush your teeth with it. Always use bottled water. Bring Imodium. I never travel without it. If you feel safer with traveler's checks, they can be cashed at Europa or any cambio in town.
You gotta go to the car wash on a Friday or Saturday night. Car washes are uniquely Dominican. There will be a couple hundred semi pros at the car wash on a good night, particularly if a well known band is playing there.
Any other questions, feel free to PM me.
2006 Update
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]the Cowgirl Bar, Central Hotel ..[/QUOTE]Cowgirl bar is closed since about 1 year. Central don't allow hooker inside now.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]All over town, watch for pick pockets. Bring only as much money as you need, don't flash it and keep it in a buttoned or zippered pocket. If any woman even touches you after approaching, odds are she's a thief. If they grab your arm, forcefully break their hold. If they approach you, set your space and keep them away. The "nice girls" in Sosua wouldn't do that...[/QUOTE]Very true.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]You gotta go to the car wash on a Friday or Saturday night. [/QUOTE]Carwash only open when there is a concert now.
I actually miss the Cowgirl Bar. Yes its been closed for about (1) one year.
It was fun to Bachata dance with the chicas and chat it up with them. It was a comfortable place. Of course, there was never any real "stunners" working there.
I remember one of my regulars telling me that she had to sit around the bar from 6pm to at least 2am in the morning (If they went upstairs to their rooms before 2am they got a talking to) and she would be paid 100 pesos a night, plus any tips they made serving customers beers and whatnot.
3000 pesos ($90) mensual (monthly) paid at the end of the month, they had to work every single day. Good God, what a life! :( Listening to the same Elvis Martinez and Joey Veras songs over and over and over again on the bar's sound system.
I have a question, what's up with the bar that opened right across the street from the Cowgirl Bar? I was down there two months ago and walked in. It looked like the same setup as the Cowgirl Bar, same type of girls sitting around mouthing the words to the Frankie Reyes song blaring out of the speakers - but I was shocked when I started talking to one cute little morena and she said that "I just waitress here, I don't leave with the customers"
I was stunned!
Anybody have any war stories from that place? ;)
Any of you guys have been pickpocketed?
Does anyone have any updates on the curfew in Sosua?
My second night out in Sosua, I put 1000 pesos in a hidden side pocket. As I was walking along Pedro Clisante, me and my friend were approached by this 40 year old prostitute who preceded to touch in several different places. I struggled to finally get rid of the woman, who, as I later found it, must have found it and taken it. LESSON: Don't trust anyone and don't lose track of your money.
Ford, I never visited Cowboys, but it was a hoot. Ted, at Rocky's (next door) talked about the guys who could come out and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the street, causing some local commotion. I was there almost a year ago, and Cowgirls was closed, but an establishment was being built across the street.
Yes, DR Monger, I was pickpocketed. Fortunately not by much. The co-owner of the Brittania Pub at the time warned me not to carry money in my front pants pockets. I said yeah, yeah and did it anyway. A girl appeared before me on the sidewalk, speaking rapid Spanish in my ear, and rubbing my crotch. This couldn't have been more than ten seconds.
When I broke away and excused myself, I realized I'd been had. She had disappeared, as had her accomplices, if any. They sometimes work as teams.
After that, I carried any major cash in cargo pockets, above my knees, or in zippered pockets that are harder to get into.
A lady who accosts you aggressively on the sidewalk is after your pockets. Decline politely, and watch your valuables. You already know to keep your passport, etc. in a hotel safe. Some people have suggested you copy the title page of your passport and carry it with you. I never had this challenged in Sosua, but times do change.
It's a great town, if you prepare yourself, but realize that you are in a third-world country, and that an American, Englishman, Irishman, Australian, etc. is a walking ATM machine.
A few years ago when I'd walk in Sosua at night I used to carry my money in the "drop" pocket of a pair or cargo pants, but I used to keep a considerable stack of "peso-sized" pieces of colored copier paper in the top pocket of my pants with the phrase .....
"no es bueno robar el dinero de la otra gente" on them.
(its not nice to steal other peoples money) :D
I'd leave my apartment with 10 of those pieces of paper spend the evening at the Cowgirl Bar, get a "load" on, be rubbed and grinded by at least a half-dozen girls thru the night and when I'd get back to my apartment later there were usually only about 2 or 3 bills left.
My regular girl Anjela, who would watch me everynight carefully cut the paper, write on it, then crumple it and then fold it - thought the whole process was hysterical! :)
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Any of you guys have been pickpocketed?[/QUOTE]A friend of mine was picked this labor day weekend near Dr. Salazar's office.
Older looking Hatian with friend was walking towards us. The girl turned around and started to walk next to my friend. Luckly as she put her hand in his pocket I was walking behind them and yelled to look out for the pick.
As she took the pesos from his pocket I grabbed her hand with the money and then so did my friend. Luckly we were able to get all the money back. It just turned dark and there were no policia around.
I was amazed by how strong her hand was. It took 2 dudes to wrestle her hand open. She must practice her hand exercises during the day.
Unfortuantely I have been hearing more pickpocketing stories in the last year.
I don't know why. It seems it is usually an ugly ***** who can't hoe doing this. There should be a place to rent stun guns for these bitches.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]A friend of mine was picked this labor day weekend near Dr. Salazar's office.
Older looking Hatian with friend was walking towards us. The girl turned around and started to walk next to my friend. Luckly as she put her hand in his pocket I was walking behind them and yelled to look out for the pick.
As she took the pesos from his pocket I grabbed her hand with the money and then so did my friend. Luckly we were able to get all the money back. It just turned dark and there were no policia around.
I was amazed by how strong her hand was. It took 2 dudes to wrestle her hand open. She must practice her hand exercises during the day.
Unfortuantely I have been hearing more pickpocketing stories in the last year.
I don't know why. It seems it is usually an ugly ***** who can't hoe doing this. There should be a place to rent stun guns for these bitches.[/QUOTE]Lucky you, I wish I 'd done that.
Right on about the stun guns!
pickpockets, street scam artists and the like are infuriating, i agree. but, at least with these people you've got a fighting chance though. ;)
you can watch your wallet, keep only a photocopy of your passport, wear an inexpensive watch, no jewelry etc and have a fighting chance.
what really pisses me off is when you get robbed and there is nothing you can do about it! nothing! for example some of the scams at the airports (sdq & sti) where the dominican airport security tell you to place all your valuables in the plastic tray and then put it on the conveyour belt.
so there goes your carry-on bag, your watch, your shoes, and wallet traveling off on the belt and you walk thru the metal detector. the metal detector beeps, so they direct you to go back and try again then it beeps again so they stop you and start waving the wand over your body and pockets and waist and all the time tell you not to move!
now, at the same time something in your carry-on bag has allegedly raised the suspicion of the luggage screeners, so they open your carry-on bag and are "rifling" thru its contents while its completely out of your site and as you tell them to stop and motion towrds it you're abruptly warned - not to move!! (¡no se mueva!!!)
you finally get thru the metal detector and retrieve your belongings only to find your wristwatch is gone! everybody is looking up at the ceiling, nobody knows anything, nobody saw anything!
or how about , when you bring enough cash to sdq so you can pay for your room at the hotel hispaniola in cash, but you're told that its "hotel policy" that you give an imprint of a major credit card (debit cards not accepted) at the front desk to cover any incidental expenses or room damage, and that you can't check in without it.
upon returning home (happened to me this january) you pick up 3 voice mails from your credit card co. regarding fraudulent activity on your card.
seems hotel hispaniola is notorious for feeding guests cards into card "readers" and stealing the strips on the back and then selling the codes on the strips to their "homies" up in "da' heights" - washington heights, ny.
i was hit with $930 worth of baby [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url], simlac, pre-paid cell phone cards, tylenol, aspirin, hot pockets, red barron frozen pizzas, and a room humidifier in 3 duane reade stores in north manhattan, while i was still on vacation still in the dr!
these weren't pickpockets but at least with pickpockets you've got a fighting chance! what the hell can you do if the police are in on it, the military is in on it, the airport security is in on it, the hotel's management is in on it??!! etc etc.
not alot you can do. :(
I always pay hotels in cash. If they think I'll punch holes in the walls, walk off with their television or even steal a wash cloth, I still insist on cash payment. I tell them that if a staff member wishes to check on the room condition immediately prior to check out, that's fine. I've never even been refused on cash payment here in the USA or Canada. If there is damage in the room when I walk in, they are notified. They can put me in an undamaged room.
For my own security I leave my secretary with a $1,000.00 check that she can cash and Western Union the funds in an emergency. Maybe someday I'll get lucky and have so much fun that I'll run out of lobo money and she'll have to send me that money just to pay additional expenses. Wishful thinking.
I did this on my last trip, I purposely took out a credit card with a very low credit limit lets say 300 dollars. Of course alot of you are saying that isnt nothing but you forget when you are in dr that is something you pay the hotels with that credit card so even if they try to use the card with out yoiur knowledge it would be denied cuz. It already maxed out once you paid for your stay.
Now that in the US they have lifted some of the travel restrictions ( travel size items in a zip lock bag) does the same rule aply when I leave the Dominican Republic???
[QUOTE=Gutter Meat]Now that in the US they have lifted some of the travel restrictions ( travel size items in a zip lock bag) does the same rule aply when I leave the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]Yes, If you are going back to the US.
[QUOTE=Gutter Meat]Now that in the US they have lifted some of the travel restrictions ( travel size items in a zip lock bag) does the same rule aply when I leave the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]Are you saying that I can bring my KY liquid lubricante to DR in a carry-on bag, if it is in a baggie? This might sound trivial, but I hate checking baggage so much.
[QUOTE=Riverm]Are you saying that I can bring my KY liquid lubricante to DR in a carry-on bag, if it is in a baggie? This might sound trivial, but I hate checking baggage so much.[/QUOTE]I beleive if is in a tube containing 3 ounces or less.
I made a mistake. Two hot young chicas agreed to go to Hotel Europa with me for $100. We rode the motorcicletas in the rain.
After about 15 minutes in the room, the chicas started talking very fast to each other. They decided that the fun was over. In a nice way in my poor Spanish I told them we had agreed to an hour. But they said they were all done and wanted their money. The change in atmosphere from sexy playfulness to insistence on dollars was amazing.
I asked them to return to the bed. No, they dressed. "Da me el dinero. " I told them I'd give them $40, not $100, because they quit early. One said she would break my laptop computer if I did not pay up. Utter deterioration. I went downstairs and asked the staff for help. Gradually, so gradually, we got the chicas out of the room.
Thirty minutes later, I hear a knock on my door: "The tourist police are downstairs. " The two chicas are accompanied by a quiet policeman in a white shirt and a loud-mouth dressed in civilian clothes. He says that I have to pay the chicas $120. I don't speak Spanish, and he refused to say anything in English. The hotel worker (a very nice European fellow) explained to me that I would have to spend a night in a Dominican Republic jail if I did not fork up the $120. I refused. I asked for the loudmouth's police identification. He had none. This fact emboldened the hotel worker to state that there was no way that I had to go to the police station at midnight. The two Hotel Europa guard with their rifles surrounded the hotel worker. The chicas threatened the hotel worker.
The actual police officer who had been quiet said "a las nueve de la manana a la station de policia touristica, " or something like that, and pointed at me. They left. The hotel worker and both guard told me I should not go to the police station in the morning.
After morning breakfast, I walk out onto Pedro Clisante street, and there is a police car with the same officer as well as his capitan, accompanied by the two chicas (who looked very tired indeed - what had they been doing all night? ) I tried to explain the situation to the capitan of tourist police. Now the chicas were saying that I owed them $200. The same hotel worker was supportive, but the hotel daytime girl in charge at the desk simply told me to pay off the girls and showed no caring at all. I tried to work out any kind of fair deal. I even offered to screw the chicas for 40 minutes and then pay them the remaining $60. One of the chicas was willing; the other not. The hotel daytime girl did not let the girls go into the room.
The capitan told me to get into the police vehicle. They took me to the Policia Touristica headquarters, and 6 police officers, the two chicas, and I sat together in a little room that was about 9' X 9'. The capitan did not speak one word of English, and the chicas ran at the mouth. The loudmouth in civilian clothes came into the room and laughed at me. I asked him to show his identification, in my horrible Spanish. The capitan told him to leave the room. As the little shit left the room, he made a point of waving handcuffs in front of me.
The chicas spoke a mile a second, and I could understand nothing. In my horrible Spanish I insisted on someone who could speak English. Then I insisted on talking to someone from the you. S. Embassy. My requests were ignored. I tried to explain that the chicas were asking for $200 for 15 minutes of grade-D sex. I made notes in writing to the capitan. Finally I put $60 on the desk in front of the Capitan. He started lecturing the chicas on how they could not expect so much money for 20 minutes of work. Finally he let me leave.
It is not over. I had been trying to get this tall slim bartender named Elizabeth at Meringue's to spend an hour with me. She was very interested in my police encounter. Soon she agreed to an hour with me. That evening she showed up complaining of a headache, and lay on my bed and asked for aspirin. I went to the hotel lobby to get her some water. I gave her a massage. Then she took a shower for 15 minutes. Finally, she came out, and gave me about 5 minutes of sex. Then she said "no mas. " She lay there, and did not even get dressed. I told her to leave. She said that I would have to pay her because otherwise she would go to the Tourist Police, who would know that I was a 2-time offender. She said she could prove that she had been in the room for 45 minutes. After some disgusting negotiation, she agreed to 1, 000 pesos, and the chica fea left my room saying that I had a problema.
That was the low point in a mongering career of four years, with multiple visits to Costa Rica and Buenos Aires, as well as many trips to Canada and agency servicing in the States. Elizabeth seemed to enjoy her scam: she had utterly defeated the gringo and could walk out onto the street with her winnings. Certainly, the little loudmouth police-pretender had collected bribes of one kind or another and passed them on to the Tourist Police. The Capitan finally let me go when he saw that he could not hold me indefinitely without taking some risk. I am sure the chicas did not get the full $60 that I put on the table in front of him.
I did have a few good experiences in Sosua. Little Isabel was a hot chica, very sweet, with a super-round ass. She liked to dance on it, to the Latin music. And I met some interesting Canadians and Europeans down at the beach. I had a good swim and much good food. Then there were two chicas who were cute as can be but totally inexperienced in the sex act. One complained about being sore after about 10 minutes (she was a Santiago student in town with her amiga for the weekend to make mucho dinero). I might point out that she intended to snare more gringos later in the night, even though she complained of being sore. The other one literally did not know how to do doggie, not a clue. The innocence of her was enjoyable in retrospect, but at the time I wanted a sex goddess. She claimed I was her first gringo and that she had only had one novio, who was rapido in the bedroom.
I don't know if the scams are worse in the DR than in Costa Rica, Columbia, and Argentina. But there is no way I will return to check out other Domincanas. I have read about Costa Rican police trying to collect money for chicas, but this is my first experience with police corruption. And that Elizabeth at Meringue's (morning and day shift)! How fea can a chick be! Evil *****, she knew she could get my money without putting out, and she clearly enjoyed her scam.
There is no way I will return to this country.
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Sounds like a nightmare!!
90% of the guys that come to the DR shouldn't be there! They should be in Brazil, Costa Rica, or the Phillipines where the sex industry is much more transparent for Americans.
If you don't speak Spanish and don't have the backbone to physically "take charge" of a situation when your chica talks smack, you shouldn't be in the DR.
For me, the DR is perfect. Recently, I cancelled a free flight to Rio, so that I could return to the DR. Rio is beautiful, and I'm glad I did and saw everything the country has to offer (unfortunately, the DR doesn't have Swing Clubs), but I don't speak Portuguese and I can find pretty Dominicanas, who are younger and take it in the ass like a Brazilian. I fuck these Dominicanas throats, slap them around with my dick, dress them-up in role-play sessions, chain them to the bed, video tape them when they suck my dick and I do it for a fraction of the price I would have to pay in the Brazil.
There's a lot you have to learn about the DR and about yourself to enjoy the true benefits of the DR, but after you acclimated yourself to the culture, the language, and the people of the town (Boca Chica), you'll enjoy the freakiest sex you've ever had with some the youngest, prettiest girls you've ever met.
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
Riverm,
In hindsight was there anyway to avoid what had happened to you? Are most girls in DR like this?
Sorry things went so badly. Sounds like a drag.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all of that, but perhaps if another reader finds himself in this situation -- never, ever trust the police and avoid them at all costs. When complete avoidance isnt possible, bribe them and radically change your locale.
Perhaps you could have bribed the policeman (the silent one in uniform) from the get-go. After that, I would have gotten the hell out of Dodge. Go to POP for the rest of your vacation, or anywhere else really.
Your missed chance was to leave that night. You had already earned the reputation as a mark and can never shake that.
Anyway, sorry it didnt go so well.
Best wishes.
[QUOTE=Riverm]Thirty minutes later, I hear a knock on my door: "The tourist police are downstairs. " The two chicas are accompanied by a quiet policeman in a white shirt and a loud-mouth dressed in civilian clothes. He says that I have to pay the chicas $120. I don't speak Spanish, and he refused to say anything in English. The hotel worker (a very nice European fellow) explained to me that I would have to spend a night in a Dominican Republic jail if I did not fork up the $120. I refused. I asked for the loudmouth's police identification. He had none. This fact emboldened the hotel worker to state that there was no way that I had to go to the police station at midnight. The two Hotel Europa guard with their rifles surrounded the hotel worker. The chicas threatened the hotel worker.
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[QUOTE=Marzo]Sorry things went so badly. Sounds like a drag.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all of that, but perhaps if another reader finds himself in this situation -- never, ever trust the police and avoid them at all costs. When complete avoidance isnt possible, bribe them and radically change your locale.
Perhaps you could have bribed the policeman (the silent one in uniform) from the get-go. After that, I would have gotten the hell out of Dodge. Go to POP for the rest of your vacation, or anywhere else really.[/QUOTE]Marzo, thanks for your post. In retrospect, maybe I should have checked out that night and gone to POP. I did think of that in the middle of the night, when I couldn't go to sleep. But I decided not to because I was afraid that they would catch me at the airport on the way out of the country. The hotel had my name and passport number, and the police could have forced them to reveal it. The worst thing besides being beaten up (worse than losing the $600 I had) would have been to miss my flight. I was there on a long weekend, and for many reasons I had to be back at work. I don't know: would the Sosua tourist police communicate effectively with the airport exit security people? So I decided I would stick it out and make sure it was resolved somehow before my flight.
I have never bribed anyone in my life: call me naive, that's OK. My fear of bribing is that some sadist could incarcerate me for offering a bribe. I'm probably wrong there -- a matter of inexperience.
I think most guys would have caved in and paid the $80 (or maybe they were demanding $120 and denying I'd already given them $40) at midnight. There were people all around urging me to do so. I am stubborn, and I refused. I got out of the situation by paying only $60 the next day. That is $100 totally wasted, but it could have been a lot worse. There was some satisfaction in knowing that the two chicas had probably been giving their bribes, butts, and mouths all night to all these cops, just to get them to chase me down the next day. The chicas certainly looked tired!
Also I think I was lucky to get Elizabeth out of the room for only 1,000 pesos the next day. She could have scammed me for worse.
Overall, I lost $133 dollars on these two scams -- I've lost more on a Niagara Falls hooker. My guess is that many of us get ripped off one time or another, even though some of us might be too macho to admit it. The biggest problem was not the money. The biggest problem was a fear of what could happen if things escalate. What if the capitan had always dreamed of sticking a club up some gringo's butt? What if something might happen for me to miss my plane?
I need to make a correction to my post, and I can't see an edit button. Elizabeth did not work at Meringue -- rather it was another large bar down the street just a little from Meringue, toward the hotel. The bar is on the intersection of Pedro Clisante and the side street that comes from the tourist police station. Please be warned about this very clever and manipulative con artist.
I posted this to help guys understand what could happen to them. How many other guys have had similar experiences but not posted them? I have enough experience to know that there are some people who will kick you when you are down. That's just one of the things that happen on these kinds of Boards.
Anyway, Marzo, thanks for the comments and thoughtful suggestions. I certainly don't mean to say that everyone should avoid the DR. I do hope you understand why I will not be returning.
I had a similiar experience in Boca Chica but I speak some Spanish, 6'5" and weight in at over 350lbs. These chicas tried to block the door after I paid them the exact sum I had promised, service was poor. They wanted more. I was in some shit hole of a hotel on the main street. I gave them the evil eye, told them no fucking way and said I would call the federalis. I moved them to the side and walked out the door. I saw them all week long on the street. I told everyone including their competitors what pirates they were so the putas wouild starve while I was around.
You have to be street smart with some of these, make certain $ and services are understood and no, no, no money up front.
You are a patient man, I would have found another policeman, bribed him to kick them out of town. Money talks bullshit walks.
By the way, I hate to say this but many times when I bring two in the room the experience is less than what I anticipated because they love to talk to each other. You want a fantasy and they want to bs.
What hotels are recommended in Sosua. I am looking for beach access, privacy, and a all around nice place. Would like to keep it under $50. thanks
They will lie, cheat and steal for your money.
I also had a Boca Chica girl try to extort money by telling me she would call the police.
Most of the Santo Domingo girls all call on their cell phones and then lie, saying they must go early and not todo las noches, their baby has a fever, blah blah blah.
This is why I would not pay a DR girl for TLN, unless it is at Blackbeards - they have some control over the girls and get rid of the problem girls.
Colombian girls, on the other hand, will stay TLN if you pay them TLN. Most of them prefer to spend the night in a nice hotel room and enjoy the company.
DR girls are different, street smart thiefs. I am not fond of NYC, so I think of them as NYer types.
[QUOTE=Mose]By the way, I hate to say this but many times when I bring two in the room the experience is less than what I anticipated because they love to talk to each other. You want a fantasy and they want to bs.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I was going to post. My biggest mistake was in contracting with two total unknowns. They were gorgeous and 18: the cutest chicas I saw over three days. But one of them was stand-offish right from the beginning. She was giving me all the signals that usually tell me to stay away. But the other one was apparently warm and friendly, with a little jiggling of her very well-developed tits -- these were truly outstanding tits. So I was thinking with the little head. Once they were in the room, it was talk, talk, talk. Clearly they had never done a threesome and the quiet one was uncomfortable being naked and sexual in front of her friend. After a few minutes she persuaded the other to call it quits.
I think it is unlikely that either of them would have gone to the police if alone. But they took strength from each other, and they could corroborate each other's stories.
Mose, like you, I got them out of my room without over-paying. But what would you have done if they had gone to this loud-mouth guy who specializes in representing chicas, bribing police, and intimidation? Your size would not help you.
So, in hindsight, I screwed up at the start, right in the interview. And from there, everything had a predictability to it.
I've had some great threesomes in Costa Rica and Buenos Aires, and I've had some mediocre ones. The great experiences occurred only after I had already spent quality time with one of the chicas, who then helped me arrange the threesome with someone she had already worked with.
Riverm,
First let me thank you and commend you for posting exactly what happened to you on your recent trip. Alot of guys on this board have gotten scammed and flim-flammed in the DR but they like to present themselves on this board as "tough-ass, street-smart" mongers so they never, ever post anything about it.
Welcome to the world of the oldest scam in the world - "two brothers and a stranger" The girls probably knew exactly what they were going to do when they got back to your room, they knew exactly how you were likely to react and when they told you they were going to leave, then when they called the local poice they KNEW EXACTLY who was going to respond to their complaint.
Dígame, the big mouth plain-clothes police officer - was he the girls brother, cousin, uncle? What do you think? ;)
What can you do in the future?
1st, Learn Spanish, this is crucial.
2nd, Do what Marzo said, consider bribing the legitimate policeman. I've done this in the past, but then again I can speak Spanish so there is no misunderstanding exactly what the money is for. If you can't speak any Spanish and you hand a cop $40, he might just put it in his pocket and smile and you'll still be in the same situation you were before. He'll think its a union donation! (lol) :)
Finally, I agree with NPaul1. Maybe its time you consider changing your entire "latitude" I hate to make generalities but I have found Colombian women to be much more agreeable and "business" honest as a general rule. Whether its in Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama or where Dominicanas and Colombianas compete head-to-head in places like Curacao, Aruba or St Marteen - I have found Colombianas to be a cut above their competition.
(of course you'll need Spanish in these places too)
sorry to hear about the problems with you recent trip, :(
FORD
18 years old and cute, give me some names and if possible describe them. Where did they hang out? I will be there in a few weeks and would like to talk trash with them. Better yet tell the other putas that these putas are going to drive their business out of town if they keep it up. I did that in BC. I am serious. After my experience in Boca Chica I found a massage parlor/puta house that was just so, so, checked another accross from my hotel and had the best service, balls to the wall you name it. She even wanted to do bbanal after a while but I was sober and thought otherwise.
Unfortuately every ones findings are the same, you have to be more careful in the DR. As as to quality, the Colombians that you meet in Curasao at Campo Allegre are some of the best gf sex ever.
Mongers need to stick together and let the locals know when they cross the line.
[QUOTE=Ford]Riverm,
Dígame, the big mouth plain-clothes police officer - was he the girls brother, cousin, uncle? What do you think? ;)
He had a big mouth, and the uniformed officer did everything he told him to do. But he had no police identification. I think the guy does this for a living, and the chicas call on him. He is well-known at the Hotel Europa. The nice European guy working behind the desk said that the hotel owner (out of town at the time) had encountered him before and knew that he is very corrupt.
Mose, I picked up the girls in Merengue as they strolled around the bar. Gorgeous girls, one taller and slim, the other with large breasts but still not at all fat. The taller one was Wendy (actually on her cedula, and there can't be too many Wendy's in Sosua, can there?), and the shorter one was called Rosie, but her actual name is Carmen Rosa. My hunch is that I would have had a good time with Rosie if I had taken her alone, but trying to do the two chicas together was a fatal error.
Can some one help me out on places to stay.
Looking for beach and clean room.
Thanks
Overall experiece at the New Garden was good. I do like the Europa rooms itself in that they are large , big bed, electronic safe, location. The pool at the Europa sucks and is dirty. The New Garden hotel had some really good guys I met there. The pool was very nice and kept clean even though it didn't really go more than about 5 feeet deap. There is plenty of room on the property grounds which would make for a great hot tub.
Beers are 70 pesos which is kinda on the high end for a Hotel. What everyone was doing was just going right outside the Hotel to the bogee and buying them in "6" packs and putting the beers in the room fridge. If the owner lowered the price of beers to 50 pesos he most likly would sell alot more. Guys rather walk right outside and pay 35 pesos over 70 pesos a beer.
There was a security guard with pisola from 6pm to 6am and i had no problem with him.
On any given day there were about 2 to 7 chicas hanging out at the bar and pool area. i didn't use their services however it's nice to look at while you're chilin at the pool .
The room was a little smaller than the Eoropa's room. Room was clean with 2 beds, cable tv that worked, ceiling fan , and AC unit that worked very well. I was on the 2nd floor so I had a nice balcony over looking the pool. Bathroom toilet flushed well. Did NOT stuff up toloit once !! Shower stall is very small and water presure was average.
In order to turn on the AC unit in the room you must use your room key to turn it on. So there is no way to leave the AC on when you leave the room. Save energy I guess. The thing I don't like about that is that you must now leave the room key in the wall out in the open when a chica stays over. Somthing I don't like. If your sleeping , A Zankie pankie chica can take the key and split. There is a room safe too which was like $2 extra a day with a sepeate key. I like the Europas safe better since it's electronic and you only have to rember a #. With a "key" safe you always have to rember to hide the key when the chica goes to the bathroom. What i do is make the chica wait outside , I go in hide the key then let the chica in.
What is up with the key chain the garden hotel gives you??? thing is huge and is solid steel. pain in the ass to drag around if you go to the beach.
Still 1am cerfew on weekdays and 2am weekends. Kinda sucks.
I would stay at the Garden Hotel and i recommend it highly. Just A few minor changes would make it that much better
where is the Garden Hotel located at exactly? Are they strict about bringing in chicas? How much are the rooms? How far from the action? Do all the chicas need cedulas? What is there telephone number? Were you there recently?
[url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm[/url]
I haven't stayed there, but I checked it out when I was there in September. It seemed nice enough, rooms on a par with the Europa, though smaller and no in-room coffee. The courtyard/pool area was more attractive than Europa, I think.
It's on Dr. Rosen, a little bit farther down from Pedro Clisante than Rocky's and just a block or so from Classico and Sosua Life. Good location.
I was quoted $40/day for one person and $50/day for two, so there may be a $10 chica fee. Gutter Meat can probably clear that up.
It used to be called the Garden Keti.
Does anyone know the tel number or website to this Hotel/Apartments/Condos? It's a beautiful place about 2 min moto concho ride from let say Clasicos. Thanks for any help.
[QUOTE=Doe Boy]Does anyone know the tel number or website to this Hotel/Apartments/Condos? It's a beautiful place about 2 min moto concho ride from let say Clasicos. Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]
Try [url]WWW.lascanas.net[/url] good place off the beaten path prices for rooms are negotiable $35-50
Dstruggle,
Do you have directions to Lascanas?
Of a Complex that tells you upfront that they guarantee only 18 hours a day of electricity. They do this so they don't have to refund you when it goes out every day when you need it. Its true, electric is a problem everywhere on the island, but a new place advertising 18 hours a day is a dead end. it sounds like an under funded complex needing to sell a few units before they can afford full time back up generators. I will provide a full report while I am on the North Coast in December and January.
"the one and only"
Are there any places to stay on the beach? Bungalow type places?
I am considering the return of the world renowned Miss Elegante Pageant (aka Miss Sexy) to Sosua in december.
Can I get a "show of hands" as to who wants to be part of the madness.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]Of a Complex that tells you upfront that they guarantee only 18 hours a day of electricity. They do this so they don't have to refund you when it goes out every day when you need it. Its true, electric is a problem everywhere on the island, but a new place advertising 18 hours a day is a dead end. it sounds like an under funded complex needing to sell a few units before they can afford full time back up generators. I will provide a full report while I am on the North Coast in December and January.
"the one and only"[/QUOTE]
I have stayed at this place and the electrical can be a little shaky I perfer casa linda if there is 2 or more than of you guys going a villa beats this place hands down
p.s. las canas is by the international school across the street from the car wash
How far is Casa Linda from DClassico? What is cost per night? What is the chica policy? How can I get in contact with them? How is the air conditioning?
[QUOTE=Boriman]How far is Casa Linda from DClassico? What is cost per night? What is the chica policy? How can I get in contact with them? How is the air conditioning?[/QUOTE]
Casa linda is about 2-3 mims by car from classico i always rent a car the web address is [url]www.casalindaonline.com[/url] it will give you the prices phone # and so forth as far as the policy on chicas there isnt any its your house and if you want to bring back 10 girls thats up to you
[QUOTE=Fantasy]I am considering the return of the world renowned Miss Elegante Pageant (aka Miss Sexy) to Sosua in december.
Can I get a "show of hands" as to who wants to be part of the madness.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to see the return of the Miss Sexy Pageant! W/O the High Caribe Disco open, you're going to need a new venue though.
Your pageants always generated alot of quality women, at times real "quality" is hard to come by in Sosua. :(
cheers bud...........
[QUOTE=Fantasy]I am considering the return of the world renowned Miss Elegante Pageant (aka Miss Sexy) to Sosua in december.
Can I get a "show of hands" as to who wants to be part of the madness.[/QUOTE]Why don't you consider the renewed Sosua Car Wash? I can put yuo in touch with the owner.
I'm going to paradise next week for the third time! Can anybody tell me if they encorced the curfew law in sosua? Does the classico close at 2am?
[QUOTE=Member #2748]I'm going to paradise next week for the third time! Can anybody tell me if they encorced the curfew law in sosua? Does the classico close at 2am?[/QUOTE]In Sosua: Mon - Thurs. to 1:00am
Fri & Sat close at 2:00am
In Cabarette: Mon-Thurs to 2:00am
Fri & Sat close at 4:00am
Just start out earlier. The town seems to have adjusted.
You can't do anything about it. Go with the flow.
Does anyone know anyting about Viking's Exotic Resort? What island is it on etc. Is it worth it?
Go to [url]http://www.cat69.com/escort-vacations.html[/url] for their brochure
Pardon the pun, but I never cared too much for the Sosua car wash. I do like hanging out in the Car Washes in Santiago, Matter of fact last winter we hung out with some MLB players there. It's a small world though, later that same night they showed up at Classico in Sosua with some fine specimens on there arms. Thanks for the offer, but I will Pass on the Car Wash. The Owner at Classico advised me any night but a Saturday night, And the tourist police say that they have the juristiction to extend the curfew for my contest. (another words, for some $$, they will let it happen). Nothing like the old DR. After much thought, I have decided to have a Private Holiday party for close friends, and use the finances I would have spent on the Pageant for some very interesting entertainment.
QUOTE=Margarita]Why don't you consider the renewed Sosua Car Wash? I can put yuo in touch with the owner.[/QUOTE]
Is anyone going to Sosua in early December? I'm looking for someone (a mentor) to guide me.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Is anyone going to Sosua in early December? I'm looking for someone (a mentor) to guide me.[/QUOTE]
I've been there about 6 times and thinking of returning in December for my fix. I was dissapointed with my last trip, but how angry could I be with f*cking 2-3 chicks a day!
Anyone have any insights on how the scene in Sosua has changed in last year...is 1000 DP good for ST still...and 1500 TLN? Is this curfew having an affect on anything? Any other good alternatives to Europa? Cheap and hospitable within walking distance to the 'scene'?
[QUOTE=Monger 3]I've been there about 6 times and thinking of returning in December for my fix. I was dissapointed with my last trip, but how angry could I be with f*cking 2-3 chicks a day!
Anyone have any insights on how the scene in Sosua has changed in last year...is 1000 DP good for ST still...and 1500 TLN? Is this curfew having an affect on anything? Any other good alternatives to Europa? Cheap and hospitable within walking distance to the 'scene'?[/QUOTE]Try the New Garden Hotel on Dr Rosen. s-t 1,500. l-t 2,500 avg prices.
Last time in Sept 06. Next time in Nov 06.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Is anyone going to Sosua in early December? I'm looking for someone (a mentor) to guide me.[/QUOTE]Dude,
Just go to Classicos around 11:00pm, You won't need a wingman. The only problem will be you fighting off the chicas. About 10 to 1 ratio. Walk around town during the day to get the lay of the land. You will have no problem.
Is 11pm the time to go to Classicos (can I go before)? I don't speak a word of spanish. How can I negotiate prices with them? Can someone tell me there modus operandi when entering a club in sosua or puerto plata (exact word for word conversation)? What are the other clubs in Sosua? Where is Frank's place, Crystals?
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Is 11pm the time to go to Classicos (can I go before)? I don't speak a word of spanish. How can I negotiate prices with them? Can someone tell me there modus operandi when entering a club in sosua or puerto plata (exact word for word conversation)? What are the other clubs in Sosua? Where is Frank's place, Crystals?[/QUOTE]You can go earlier. Start out early and visit the small bars along the main drag. Just rember 1 mill, 2 mill, or 3 mill for 1, 000, 2, 000, 3, 000 pesos. Most of the chicas know some sort of English. Start our low and more higher if you have to. If you think its too much just walk away. There's so many there that they will be back or another one will take your price. Classicos is the main disco in Sosua at the moment. Club X is closed at the moment. Try Seacrets down the street. Frank's & Crystals, along with El Bohem are in Puerto Plata. They are strip/hoe houses as where Classicos is a disco for all.
Hey monger II, Are you joking or are you that concerned about it. Okay, I remember one night in 1994 in Boca Chica (when it was a great place may i add), when I was asking these questions. I will arrive in Sosua on December 8th for my regular winter stay. If you plan on arriving on or after that date I can show you around for a night. I like meeting up with other mongers for a couple of drinks or breakfast or lunch here and there but I mostly enjoy "hunting' solo as most here can verify. I just never really got into that "frat house" mode. If it interests you send me a pm for my domincan cell number.
"the one and only"
No, I'm serious. I never been to a latin American country before. I don't speak a lick of spanish. Part of me thinks that I should go to Blackbeards, but the thing that concerns me is that there would be a limit of women I could see there. Communication is the key to everything. If I said 1500 pesos or 2,500 pesos in English would most women in Sosua understand me? I'm not a paying member here and I can't pvt message you. I'm going to sosua early than you, but I can meet you on the 8th or later than that. Would most people in Sosua steer me in the right direction if I asked? Also, should I be concerned about going by myself to DR? I read many reports here and DR seems relatively safe, but on DR1 there have been reports of crime.
What I can tell you is that all of the DR is relatively safe. Thats why I spend a few months there in the winter, the freedom of movement which I don't feel I have in my favorite country (Colombia). If you get drunk in public, flash cash, wear alot of gold, buy alot of ***** drinks, than you become a "mark". Once you are a mark, word spreads like crazy. Use the comman sense that you would use in any big city in america, and you will be fine. Be the "man about town", and you will come home with your tail between your legs. good luck, and have fun.
DR Monger II,
I went there for the first time last Dec., I learned a few words of Spanish and I recommend you at least learn the numbers, it will be absolutely invaluable (write them down on a piece of paper and memorize them). It is VERY important that there is no confusion at all about the prices as you always pay at the end for everything (never pay upfront for ANYTHING).
The other experience I had was that the girls come in for TLN (Toda La Noche - all night) or a short time (say 1, 2 hours what ever you agreed) and then they get you off in a matter of minutes (the good ones can blow you off you in 10 minutes, I can tell you they are EXPERT down there). Then they put on their clothes with some excuse to bogger off. There is not much you can do about it (you read about this all over this and other forums). So I recommend always go for a lower price and shorter time then if you like them you can negotiate longer stay or tip them etc. (I found this to be the main biggest problem in Sosua). Oh, and always check their Cedula (ID Card).
As soon as you arrive you can meet up with some experience mongers, they are plenty around and very friendly and welcoming, you will have no problem at all with anythihng else. Have a great time.
I read a lot of those scams on here even ones where the local police were called. I heard that some women leave after a few hours when you pay TLN or request more money. I wouldn't know what to do in the situation being in a 3rd world country and not knowing the language. If they leave after 15 minutes it wouldn't be worth it for me to go to DR. I could get better service in the states. There is nothing worse than a provider that wants to dash and leave as quick as possible.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]I read a lot of those scams on here even ones where the local police were called. I heard that some women leave after a few hours when you pay TLN or request more money. I wouldn't know what to do in the situation being in a 3rd world country and not knowing the language. If they leave after 15 minutes it wouldn't be worth it for me to go to DR. I could get better service in the states. There is nothing worse than a provider that wants to dash and leave as quick as possible.[/QUOTE]I have been to the DR and Sosua many, many times.
One of the biggest problems that occurs is miscommunications over time. I don't really take the side either of mongers or of the girls on this, but the simple fact is that if you are going to get the best out of the girls you have to understand a bit about their culture and where they are coming from.
As I posted in the Puerto Plata section, these girls you meet are not licensed professional "providers" and if you perceive them this way, you will be off to a bad start.
They are poor women who nearly always have children and who do not make enough money to support them or to have a few of the things that young women enjoy, like a cell phone, nice clothes, spiffy hair, manicured nails etc., all of which cost MORE not less in the DR than in the US.
When you look at them you see sex, but when they look at you, they see money. On your way to the room to do the deed, you are thinking about getting into their pants, they are already mentally calling their family to tell them they will eat tonight, or buying that cute blouse they saw in the store yesterday.
Your idea that you have purchased them for two hours, or overnight, or whatever you have in mind, is basically meaningless, because they have pretty much no choice but to agree to whatever you suggest regardless of whether they can actually fulfill the deal.
If you have a reasonable knowledge of Spanish, a lot of these problems will disappear, because you can chat with the girl, find out about her living situation, who is minding the kids, how she will get home etc., and work out some agreement with her. Also, if you can speak some Spanish, she will feel much more comfortable with you and want to spend time with you.
Two suggestions to avoid disappointment:
1) Just stick to short time, "un rato", which means just having sex, one orgasm, and then the deal is finished. This avoids complex negotiations.
2) Get to know a girl and spend more time with her, meals, drinks, etc., and she is more likely to treat you like a friend of the family.Spend time with her BEFORE the sex, before you pay her, then she will be in no rush to depart.
3) You don't always have to have sex with a girl right now. You can arrange to meet her later after she has gone home and taken care of business, or you can meet her tomorrow and take her for dinner and dancing before you bed her. Unlike escorts in the US , there is no hourly charge for dining time.
Most of the girls are basically decent and nice people, but obviously this does not apply to every single one. Some are more intelligent, some have better people skills. Like any population, there is a lot of variety, but you in general you will always enjoy yourself more if you treat them like ladies first, and only treat them like bad apples once they have proved themselves rotten to the core.
I have a much better idea for you that will guarantee success. I will be down on the eighth. If you western union me a thousand dollars u.s. I can guarantee you photos that will give you a lifetime of enjoyment. As your proxy, I will even have some two girl sessions for you. For an extra $200.00 I would include a video as well. When you send the money just include a description of the kind of girl you like. But if you like heavy ones it will cost you more! To make the package complete send me a pair of your shoes and I will have them shined by one of the local boys. And I think I can round up a six pack of presidentes as well. I will be anxiously awaiting your answer.
P.S. A photo album of Colombia would be nice, I could take care of that for you In January, No problem......
"the one and only", at your service..........
I'm not into watching. Maybe we can meet up. Name a place and time and I'll meet you in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]I have a much better idea for you that will guarantee success. I will be down on the eighth. If you western union me a thousand dollars u.s. I can guarantee you photos that will give you a lifetime of enjoyment. As your proxy, I will even have some two girl sessions for you. For an extra $200.00 I would include a video as well. When you send the money just include a description of the kind of girl you like. But if you like heavy ones it will cost you more! To make the package complete send me a pair of your shoes and I will have them shined by one of the local boys. And I think I can round up a six pack of presidentes as well. I will be anxiously awaiting your answer.
P.S. A photo album of Colombia would be nice, I could take care of that for you In January, No problem.
"the one and only", at your service.[/QUOTE]I just got an email asking me if I could loan $1,000 and a pair of my shoes to a monger. He told me he has the $200 for the video! I told him to stop smoking that crack shit! I would almost wager that you will have some serious replies, ha, ha ha.
Fantasy
If you need a body double while you are recovering from some of the shoot, let me know.
[QUOTE=Supertigre]I have been to the DR and Sosua many, many times.
One of the biggest problems that occurs is miscommunications over time. I don't really take the side either of mongers or of the girls on this, but the simple fact is that if you are going to get the best out of the girls you have to understand a bit about their culture and where they are coming from.
As I posted in the Puerto Plata section, these girls you meet are not licensed professional "providers" and if you perceive them this way, you will be off to a bad start.
They are poor women who nearly always have children and who do not make enough money to support them or to have a few of the things that young women enjoy, like a cell phone, nice clothes, spiffy hair, manicured nails etc., all of which cost MORE not less in the DR than in the US.
When you look at them you see sex, but when they look at you, they see money. On your way to the room to do the deed, you are thinking about getting into their pants, they are already mentally calling their family to tell them they will eat tonight, or buying that cute blouse they saw in the store yesterday.
Your idea that you have purchased them for two hours, or overnight, or whatever you have in mind, is basically meaningless, because they have pretty much no choice but to agree to whatever you suggest regardless of whether they can actually fulfill the deal.
If you have a reasonable knowledge of Spanish, a lot of these problems will disappear, because you can chat with the girl, find out about her living situation, who is minding the kids, how she will get home etc., and work out some agreement with her. Also, if you can speak some Spanish, she will feel much more comfortable with you and want to spend time with you.
Two suggestions to avoid disappointment:
1) Just stick to short time, "un rato", which means just having sex, one orgasm, and then the deal is finished. This avoids complex negotiations.
2) Get to know a girl and spend more time with her, meals, drinks, etc., and she is more likely to treat you like a friend of the family.Spend time with her BEFORE the sex, before you pay her, then she will be in no rush to depart.
3) You don't always have to have sex with a girl right now. You can arrange to meet her later after she has gone home and taken care of business, or you can meet her tomorrow and take her for dinner and dancing before you bed her. Unlike escorts in the US , there is no hourly charge for dining time.
Most of the girls are basically decent and nice people, but obviously this does not apply to every single one. Some are more intelligent, some have better people skills. Like any population, there is a lot of variety, but you in general you will always enjoy yourself more if you treat them like ladies first, and only treat them like bad apples once they have proved themselves rotten to the core.[/QUOTE]
Great Post Super Tigre, they also call me Tigre/Cassanova/Mafioso down in the DR.....Im guessing we have the same approach when towards chicas down there.
One more thing I need to add is, all girls are not the same. Some girls really care for you and tend to fullfill your wishes more than others. It is a difficult problem to weed out the bad from the good.
I liked the Philippino girl I picked up from LA cafe when she said after 4 rounds of satisfying sex " You picked me for sex and sex only. Before I leave I have to make sure you have had enough for today"
[QUOTE=Fantasy]I have a much better idea for you that will guarantee success. I will be down on the eighth. If you western union me a thousand dollars u.s. I can guarantee you photos that will give you a lifetime of enjoyment. As your proxy, I will even have some two girl sessions for you. For an extra $200.00 I would include a video as well. When you send the money just include a description of the kind of girl you like. But if you like heavy ones it will cost you more! To make the package complete send me a pair of your shoes and I will have them shined by one of the local boys. And I think I can round up a six pack of presidentes as well. I will be anxiously awaiting your answer.
P.S. A photo album of Colombia would be nice, I could take care of that for you In January, No problem......
"the one and only", at your service..........[/QUOTE]
$1200 for a "two-some", a video, a shoe shine and a six-pack of Presidentes?? I've never read a single post on this board before but my I have a sixth sense for this sort of thing - and I think this is a sweet deal! :)
I like a Vida Guerra type - alittle chunky - so tell me how much more that will cost and I'll wire you the $$$ asap!
Btw, is there any chance you can get me a souvenir tee-shirt, and maybe a souvenir shot glass with a Sosua logo? It would make a great keep -sake.
I'll pay up to $60 a piece for each.
talk to you.............
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]The other experience I had was that the girls come in for TLN (Toda La Noche - all night) or a short time (say 1, 2 hours what ever you agreed) and then they get you off in a matter of minutes (the good ones can blow you off you in 10 minutes, I can tell you they are EXPERT down there). Then they put on their clothes with some excuse to bogger off. There is not much you can do about it (you read about this all over this and other forums).[/QUOTE]
Yes, there is something you can do about it. Like NEVER pay in advance. Try it, and you will be surprised how that cuts down on the percentage of wham-bam-and-dash type of girls.
EA
I never pay in advance, but you try to tell a DR puta (all dressed up and ready to leave) that you are not paying her the full amount she wants... !? She will make a fuss you've never seen, scream and shout and wakes everybody up - read the forum a few pages ago - police and all sorts of scammers, pimps get invlolved. And if you manage to survive all those you got to watch your back every day in the street.
Saying all that I argued with them for some time and didn't pay the full amount to a couple of them (well gave them what they deserved and worked for).
I think generally you should settle for a price that you are quite happy to loose if things didn't work out (in case of a quick service or a bad performance). Bring the price right down to ST, un rato, and take it from there - last time I was only asking for TLN. Well, I don't know but I hope this works better.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I never pay in advance, but you try to tell a DR puta (all dressed up and ready to leave) that you are not paying her the full amount she wants... !? She will make a fuss you've never seen, scream and shout and wakes everybody up - read the forum a few pages ago - police and all sorts of scammers, pimps get invlolved. And if you manage to survive all those you got to watch your back every day in the street.
Saying all that I argued with them for some time and didn't pay the full amount to a couple of them (well gave them what they deserved and worked for).
I think generally you should settle for a price that you are quite happy to loose if things didn't work out (in case of a quick service or a bad performance). Bring the price right down to ST, un rato, and take it from there - last time I was only asking for TLN. Well, I don't know but I hope this works better.[/QUOTE] I no longer ask for TLN . Only ST, and if the session was good, I then bring up the subject, and they often agree at a price that is quite abit less than an upfront TLN. At that point they kinda know what type of person you are, and you know the same. Win win.
And NEVER pay up front.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I never pay in advance, but you try to tell a DR puta (all dressed up and ready to leave) that you are not paying her the full amount she wants... !? She will make a fuss you've never seen, scream and shout and wakes everybody up - read the forum a few pages ago - police and all sorts of scammers, pimps get invlolved. And if you manage to survive all those you got to watch your back every day in the street.[/QUOTE]
So what if she throws at tantrum? If you have been a good customer and friendly with the security staff (make sure to tip them well!), they won't even blink to throw the girl out! Police? Get them over here! Pimps? Why should the mafiosos get involved in that? Why should they even be let into the building?
Of course, a situation like this is way easier to handle if you are fluent in Spanish.
As to watching your back every day in the street afterwards: you know, if you don't stand your ground and set the limits and become known as a gullible tourist (read: sucker), you might have to watch your back twice as hard every day in the street afterwards.
I do agree with everyone regarding ST. I am no longer a TLN guy, either, but if you decide to do TLN, at least only do it with a girl you already know from ST and can gage somewhat accurately, performance and attitude-wise.
EA
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]Of course, a situation like this is way easier to handle if you are fluent in Spanish.[/QUOTE]I think the Spanish is the key, I'm trying to learn as much as possible.
As for being a sucker, due to a few arguments that I had with a few girls and also my rule of only pay 1000 pesos for TLN (perhaps not enough for some good looking ones), I was in fact known as a tight- feasted bastard in the town (well, it wasn't my fault that they agreed to it!). So much so that on the final nights I would stand in Classico club alone and would NOT get hit on once for a full hour? (If you know that club you realize how bad that is.). But perhaps that is a bit extreme, so this time I'll be a bit nicer to them!
Thanks for the advice.
I just spent a couple of weeks in Sosua for the first time. I have been to the DR before, but that was in Santo Domingo and Boca Chica.
I have enjoyed Sosua. It is small, everything is within walking distance. Disadvantage is that everybody knows each other and you become well known in the scene in a day or two.
Once I had "done" 3 or 4 chicas, I kept bumping into all of them in the bars and Classico disco at the same time. And they will all claim me. Just keep bluffing, dance with all of them...and some others....and take your pick later.
Or, as I did, take a chica early in the evening for short time......and maybe another later for TLN.
I stayed in both Rocky's and Casa Valeria at Calle Dr. Rosen.....they don't blink an eye when you come in with a different girl 3 times a day.
Please if you don't know a girl yet, set a price in advance.......once you are familiar with her later on, she will know what you will spend on her....and she will like you to take her to your room again the following days. It is a market....and there are more girls than guys....so there is no reason to overpay. But treat these girls with respect, something they don't get from Dominican men, and they will treat you like a king.
What is the going rate at Classicos for ST and TLN? Also, I read different reports about Hotel Europa. Is it a dump? Or is it at least a decent place to stay? Should one make an attempt to go to Franks place or El Bohen when in Sosua?
The Europa is NOT a five-star hotel.
It is, however, a clean, inexpensive (around $45 a night for a single, depending on exchange fluctuation) room with a refrigerator (for your less costly bodega Presidentes), an accommodating staff (who will check in any lady you bring back - for their protection as well as yours), a self-programmable room safe (for your passport and everything but walking-around money).
It is about a five-minute walk (or a 30 DR - about a buck - ride to the center of town), and less than twice that to the beach.
The owner, Diego, is usually on premises, and is helpful with any questions you might have.
I would recommend it to any first-timer, unless someone expects treatment that is unknown in a third-world country. As you may have noted, many mongers make it their home while in Sosua.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What is the going rate at Classicos for ST and TLN? Also, I read different reports about Hotel Europa. Is it a dump? Or is it at least a decent place to stay? Should one make an attempt to go to Franks place or El Bohen when in Sosua?[/QUOTE]
The taxi will run you $40 or more to get to PoP though if there is a few of you you can call Frank's and see if they can get you a ride.
Classicos prices vary but 1500-2000 is average for TLN. Though some get for less and others have been known to pay more.
Have never stayed at Eurpoa but friends have and they like it.
[QUOTE=Escort King]The taxi will run you $40 or more to get to PoP though if there is a few of you you can call Frank's and see if they can get you a ride.
Classicos prices vary but 1500-2000 is average for TLN. Though some get for less and others have been known to pay more.
Have never stayed at Eurpoa but friends have and they like it.[/QUOTE]You can take the publico taxi from Sosua to Puerto Plata for about US$1 each way. (25 pesos daytime, 30 pesos at night, unless it has gone up in the last few weeks).
They run all night. The night taxis have "Transporte Nocturno" on the lighted roof sign.
You pick up the taxis at Sosua at the intersection at the top of the road that runs from Classico disco to the highway, or just ask anyone where is the "parada de taxis" (taxi stand).
In the daytime you pick up the taxi or guagua in Puerto Plata at the Central Park "Parque Central". At night time outside the hospital on the highway. (Again ask for the "parada de taxis de Sosua".) In Puerto Plata you can take a motoconcho (30 pesos) to the taxi stand, if you don't know where you are.
If you are going to or from Cristals nightclub/brothel, you can alight or pick up a publico taxi on the highway outside the courthouse at Long Beach. Cristals is 3 minutes walk, or take a motoconcho.
You can also get one outside the gates of Playa Dorada if you are staying at Field of Dreams.
The publico taxi is usually a Toyota Corolla. A full payload is six passengers plus the driver, that is two passengers in the front passenger seat, and four in the back. However, if you are a big spender, you can pay double and have the whole of the front seat for yourself. If you are a really big spender, you can buy all the seats, so it would cost 180 pesos ($6) to buy all six seats to take the taxi from Sosua to Puerto Plata at night.
Or you can pay the US$40 for a tourist taxi.
Or you can charter a helicopter.
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Thanks Supertiger, Publico taxi isn't a gua gua is it? A gua gua is sort of like a public taxi? I heard a gua gua was a mini van or van of some sort. You just stick your hand out and they will pick me up? I think I would have a problem with communicating with them about where I'm going or how much to pay since I don't know any spanish:(
Can the publico taxi take you anywhere? Can they stop anywhere?
Also, are there roaches or rats in Europa? Water running well?
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Thanks Supertiger, Publico taxi isn't a gua gua is it? A gua gua is sort of like a public taxi? I heard a gua gua was a mini van or van of some sort. You just stick your hand out and they will pick me up? I think I would have a problem with communicating with them about where I'm going or how much to pay since I don't know any spanish:(
Can the publico taxi take you anywhere? Can they stop anywhere?
Also, are there roaches or rats in Europa? Water running well?[/QUOTE]Yes, stick out a hand.
The publico taxi is called a "carro" (car) and works pretty much the same way as a guagua, with the same fare, so they are interchangeable. The carros run all night, but the bus-type guaguas don't.
A publico taxi going from Sosua to Puerto Plata will drop you where you like in Puerto Plata, within reason. A taxi from Puerto Plata to Sosua will drop you in front of the supermercado, opposite Canto del Delfin (Song of the Dophin) on the main road.
I'm not aware of roaches or rats at the Europa. I have stayed there many times. The odd mosquito will make an entrance if you leave the door open. It is a good idea to take some mosquito repellent, because if you are sitting in bars or restaurants at night, they have a tendency to go for your ankles.
One would have to check the guest register. You can ask. The Spanish words are cucaracha(s), and raton(es) (which covers both mice and rats).
I would not worry too much about not being able to speak Spanish, because the people there are used to ignorant tourists. And look, if you are planning to fuck their women, you need to brush up on your sign language at least.
The water at the Europa runs reasonably well. Sometimes you have to flush the toilets two times. There is hot water round the clock.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What is the going rate at Classicos for ST and TLN? Also, I read different reports about Hotel Europa. Is it a dump? Or is it at least a decent place to stay? Should one make an attempt to go to Franks place or El Bohen when in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I would not bother. You can find everything you want in Sosua. El Bohen is a clip joint and Frank's place has seen better days. Both of them pay commissions to taxi drivers, so that means that of whatever you pay a girl, the first $500 pesos comes right off the top for the taxi driver.
In Sosua you will find all the girls you want, and then some. Night times at the Merengue Bar/Classic disco is the best hunting ground, because here you will find a lot of "semi-pros". These are girls who do it now and again, rather than every day, and you will probably find them more interesting than the girls who hang out around the bars all day. There is another place halfway between the Europa and Merengue Bar/Classic that is called Seacrets. You can't miss it, as there are girls hanging over the street, but it seems to me that the quality of the girls is mediocre.
Anyhow, as soon as you arrive in Sosua there will be girls trying to nail you, so don't worry. Anywhere you go they will find you. You are the prey, they are the hunters.
Push back your vacation and I will get you started when i arrive. The europa is more like a one star, and they borrowed that from atop the christmas tree.
but is more than adequate for your first stay, and very convienent. stay away from the gua guas. the sosua-puerta plata transports (toyotas) are a valid alternative to the high priced tourist taxis. but for god sake, buy all the seats and get there quicker and without smelling like the other 6 farm hands stuffed in the car with you.
DR Monger II,
Its cool you're asking all the right questions, but to be honest, there is nothing like just diving in feet first and getting your feet wet in the environment. For a newbie, I would recommend literally staying in Sosua, and if you meet some fellow mongers, maybe doing a group trip to Cabarete, Playa Dorada or Puerta Plata.
Everything you need is in SOsua...good food, good beach, and some casino action...and BABES. People make the mistake of doing too much in a short time, and I think that erodes people's experiences. Stay in a place like Europa or Club Residencial or New Garden Hotel...all walking distance to action, food, and beaches. In DR, all you need is a clean room with AC, TV, and a fridge for beers. Save to fancy clothes and jewelry for home...T-shirts and flip flops are fine. Learn some basic spanish from some tapes, and you're good to go. Be stern, but respectful to the chicas...dont do anything stupid like multiple babes at once or get too wasted and you'll be fine!
I've been to DR 7 times in last 3 years, and everytime, I've met cool dudes who I've chilled with and mongered with. Your first time wont be your last, and it will surely be a blast...
Well traveled mongers,
You all seem to be very knowledgeable regarding the pleasures of the DR so I come to you with my rookie question. Everyone has so many opinions about both locations but I would like to know your genuine opinion comparing the two.
Keep in mind certain factors for me:
- Tirst time in the DR. Been to Rio and had a blast.
- Birthday celebration with 2 buddies (I'll be 30)
- I prefer fair skinned/brown skin women not too dark
- Less than avergage spanish skills (my friend does speak well)
- Arriving late February
- Current reservations (2/22-3/1) at bbs jacuzzi suite and penthouse
- Hear good things about classico and would like to go. Hear good things about la passion and franks place. Are these mongering locations doable from bbs without breaking the travel by taxi bank?
- Any suggestions on hooking up with a local guide to assist in get around, club negotiations, translation services. I'm sure some con artist would gladly take my money so I would prefer someone with some history. Plus I don't pay up front. Their loss.
Thanks for any thoughts you can provide.
Uptownspc
Well traveled mongers,
You all seem to be very knowledgeable regarding the pleasures of the DR so I come to you with my rookie question. Everyone has so many opinions about both locations but I would like to know your genuine opinion comparing the two.
Keep in mind certain factors for me:
- Tirst time in the DR. Been to Rio and had a blast.
- Birthday celebration with 2 buddies (I'll be 30)
- I prefer fair skinned/brown skin women not too dark
- Less than avergage spanish skills (my friend does speak well)
- Arriving late February
- Current reservations (2/22-3/1) at bbs jacuzzi suite and penthouse
- Hear good things about classico and would like to go. Hear good things about la passion and franks place. Are these mongering locations doable from bbs without breaking the travel by taxi bank?
- Any suggestions on hooking up with a local guide to assist in get around, club negotiations, translation services. I'm sure some con artist would gladly take my money so I would prefer someone with some history. Plus I don't pay up front. Their loss.
Thanks for any thoughts you can provide.
Uptownspc
[QUOTE=Uptown Spc]Well traveled mongers,
You all seem to be very knowledgeable regarding the pleasures of the DR so I come to you with my rookie question. Everyone has so many opinions about both locations but I would like to know your genuine opinion comparing the two.
Keep in mind certain factors for me:
- Tirst time in the DR. Been to Rio and had a blast.
- Birthday celebration with 2 buddies (I'll be 30)
- I prefer fair skinned/brown skin women not too dark
- Less than avergage spanish skills (my friend does speak well)
- Arriving late February
- Current reservations (2/22-3/1) at bbs jacuzzi suite and penthouse
- Hear good things about classico and would like to go. Hear good things about la passion and franks place. Are these mongering locations doable from bbs without breaking the travel by taxi bank?
- Any suggestions on hooking up with a local guide to assist in get around, club negotiations, translation services. I'm sure some con artist would gladly take my money so I would prefer someone with some history. Plus I don't pay up front. Their loss.
Thanks for any thoughts you can provide.
Uptownspc[/QUOTE]
With 2 other guys and maybe one or two others from BBs wanting to do the run it is not too expensive - say $5 a man each way or get a guy for say $50 for the evening and let him have a beer or two with you - and go for a van if you can arrange it. That way you can do all of the stops in a night... start at Pop - Frank's and La Bohemme - then head to Sousa and stop at Passions say around 11pm and finish the night at Classicos - here later gets you better negotiations on TLN....
[quote=uptown spc]well traveled mongers,
you all seem to be very knowledgeable regarding the pleasures of the dr so i come to you with my rookie question. everyone has so many opinions about both locations but i would like to know your genuine opinion comparing the two.
keep in mind certain factors for me:
- tirst time in the dr. been to rio and had a blast.
- birthday celebration with 2 buddies (i'll be 30)
- i prefer fair skinned/brown skin women not too dark
- less than avergage spanish skills (my friend does speak well)
- arriving late february
- current reservations (2/22-3/1) at bbs jacuzzi suite and penthouse
- hear good things about classico and would like to go. hear good things about la passion and franks place. are these mongering locations doable from bbs without breaking the travel by taxi bank?
- any suggestions on hooking up with a local guide to assist in get around, club negotiations, translation services. i'm sure some con artist would gladly take my money so i would prefer someone with some history. plus i don't pay up front. their loss.
thanks for any thoughts you can provide.
uptownspc[/quote]if your preference is for lighter skinned women, you will have less choice in the dr, however there are many woman who are morenas with european features. however, even when their features are european, their tail ends are distinctly african, so if you are looking for saggy butts, you are right out of luck.
frank is no longer associated with "franks place". the current proprietor is clueless. el boem is a waste of time and money.
if you are arriving in late february you have plenty of time to get your spanish up to speed. you can get a set of 9 cds of learn in your car spanish from amazon for only $30. half an hour a day and you will be semifluent by end of feb.
avoid local guides. many of the dominican men who speak english are criminals who have been deported from the us.
blackbeards is a good place, and you will meet people there who may include local expatriates who have retired to the dr and who have nothing better to do than drink and *****. they also have cars.
chicas make good local guides, but they are not much use at finding other women for you unless a threesome is required.
[QUOTE=Monger 3]DR Monger II,
Its cool you're asking all the right questions, but to be honest, there is nothing like just diving in feet first and getting your feet wet in the environment. For a newbie, I would recommend literally staying in Sosua, and if you meet some fellow mongers, maybe doing a group trip to Cabarete, Playa Dorada or Puerta Plata.
Everything you need is in SOsua...good food, good beach, and some casino action...and BABES. People make the mistake of doing too much in a short time, and I think that erodes people's experiences. Stay in a place like Europa or Club Residencial or New Garden Hotel...all walking distance to action, food, and beaches. In DR, all you need is a clean room with AC, TV, and a fridge for beers. Save to fancy clothes and jewelry for home...T-shirts and flip flops are fine. Learn some basic spanish from some tapes, and you're good to go. Be stern, but respectful to the chicas...dont do anything stupid like multiple babes at once or get too wasted and you'll be fine!
I've been to DR 7 times in last 3 years, and everytime, I've met cool dudes who I've chilled with and mongered with. Your first time wont be your last, and it will surely be a blast...[/QUOTE]Good advice, but I would hold the flip flops because the sidewalks are pretty rough and you get some heavy rain in the winter months.
Beach type clothes and sneakers are OK for the daytime, but for going out in the evening you will impress the chicas better if you wear something like slacks, polo shirt and leather shoes. This is a tropical climate, so you don't need much, and can be pretty informal, but you will impress the chicas more if you look like a man of substance. Also a good idea to get a good haircut and get your teeth polished before the trip.
Many people don't care about this, but all I can say is that if you want good sex, then women in the DR are no different from women elsewhere in what turns them on.
Look, the sex in the DR is fantastic, or can be. Newbies do not appreciate this. They think getting laid with a pretty girl for $40 is the greatest thing, but you can also have the best, most passionate sex of your life too, if you play it right, sex that you could not get for $1000 in the US.
This place is a paradise within the wonderful Emerald City of Oz. They have moved to a new location, which is conveniently located, and beautifully designed. It's on Pedro Clisante - the main street - a few blocks away from town.
The girls are very friendly, and will one by one approach you as you are having a Presidente at the bar, and if you want to turn one away without hurting her feelings, it's "quisas luego" (maybe later). The girls are attractive, although there seems to be a high turnover. They play about on swings, beside the bar, while they are checking out their possible clients.
Should one ring your bell, the price is fixed. Unless recently changed, it is $900 DR (about $27 at current exchange rate). That includes a sensual massage and a bareback blowjob. They are talented, and this usually only takes about a half hour, as their "massage" has gotten you ready for the end game.
If you want a REAL massage, M&M (up near Banco Popular) is excellent, but don't expect any sex. Their specialty is massage.
A silver-tongued dude could possibly entice any one of them into an after-hours session, as he could possibly with a "Passions" girl, but they risk their jobs if they meet clients after hours.
I've gotten blown, and even fucked, in the above parlors. Most of the others are rip-offs, and you should make clear (in Spanish) what you expect before you strip and give them yourself to play with.
Carry a rubber if you are the cautious type. As happened with me, a girl might get carried away. I don't - I suppose I'm just old-fashioned.
I usually give the girl a $200 DR tip ($6) if she swallows my come. They have always seemed satisfied with that.
I hope this helps your planning your budget to Sosua.
Yeah Passions is a great spot.... and Peter really does not care what the girls do after hours - many end up in Classicos... you can ask if they go to Classicos after work... though with the shorter bar hours that may be moot... but they have been know to meet during the days... and you can pay a house fee and take them out - never have but know others that have.
It will be my 2nd time in Sosua. I will stay in Casa Valeria, very close to the action. If any of you want to meet to have drink, share some knowledge of the chicas, do some hunting...just let me know
I'm heading to Sosua for the first time early January. I was wondering what the clubs and bars are like on a Monday or Tuesday night. Do the chicas go out regularly on the weekdays? Also does anyone know if the extra $3 for daily breakfast at the Europa is any good or is it at least edible? Can I use US dollars for everything; girls, bars etc. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Dran Reb]I'm heading to Sosua for the first time early January. I was wondering what the clubs and bars are like on a Monday or Tuesday night. Do the chicas go out regularly on the weekdays? Also does anyone know if the extra $3 for daily breakfast at the Europa is any good or is it at least edible? Can I use US dollars for everything; girls, bars etc. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Using the local currency is generally best... most restaurants and clubs won't take US and the girls always seem to work from a lower conversion rate so DR pesos get more!
Last year during the Superbowl I stayed at Hotel Don Antiono for about 25 bucks. This time would like to stay at a apt for maybe a bit more. I've seen them advertised in the real estate offices. Can any body reccomend anything? I love the semi pro and regular girl action here.
I have been a patron of La Passion since the beginning, and I have nothing but good things to say about the establishment.
There is a high chica turnover but management is constantly on the lookout for new talent.
The propina for the chicas is something that I have noticed that the chicas are starting to demand.
2 years ago everything was included and most of the superstars put their backs into the massage and happy ending.
Now you will have to find the diamond in the rough and expect to hear "Propina para mi" at the end of your session.
Carpe Diem.
Peace:
WSJ3
:)
[QUOTE=Silver Shadow]This place is a paradise within the wonderful Emerald City of Oz. They have moved to a new location, which is conveniently located, and beautifully designed. It's on Pedro Clisante - the main street - a few blocks away from town.
The girls are very friendly, and will one by one approach you as you are having a Presidente at the bar, and if you want to turn one away without hurting her feelings, it's "quisas luego" (maybe later). The girls are attractive, although there seems to be a high turnover. They play about on swings, beside the bar, while they are checking out their possible clients.
Should one ring your bell, the price is fixed. Unless recently changed, it is $900 DR (about $27 at current exchange rate). That includes a sensual massage and a bareback blowjob. They are talented, and this usually only takes about a half hour, as their "massage" has gotten you ready for the end game.
If you want a REAL massage, M&M (up near Banco Popular) is excellent, but don't expect any sex. Their specialty is massage.
A silver-tongued dude could possibly entice any one of them into an after-hours session, as he could possibly with a "Passions" girl, but they risk their jobs if they meet clients after hours.
I've gotten blown, and even fucked, in the above parlors. Most of the others are rip-offs, and you should make clear (in Spanish) what you expect before you strip and give them yourself to play with.
Carry a rubber if you are the cautious type. As happened with me, a girl might get carried away. I don't - I suppose I'm just old-fashioned.
I usually give the girl a $200 DR tip ($6) if she swallows my come. They have always seemed satisfied with that.
I hope this helps your planning your budget to Sosua.[/QUOTE]
I read some reports on DR1 message board that there are riots and a few deaths after the death of a public official. Is Sosua safe now? Is there more rioting?
Hi All,
Have been lurking for awhile. Lots of good info here. I have seen the suggested girl friendly hotels in both Sosua and PP I ll be heading down to DR in January 07. It seems most of the hotels suggested are not on the water. Does anyone have any Hotels on the beach that are Girl friendly and are at least a 3 star hotel.
Thanks,
Sinister
I just got back from a few days in sosua yesterday. Last week one of the top drug cops was shot 48 times. From what the locals told be he was a honest guy that looked out for the people. He recently made a huge 250K kilo bust that got the pissed off the big guys. His friends set him up for the killing. There was a big march on the highway last Friday protestign his murder. I was going east so traffic was moving, but I feel sorry for the poor soles driving west behind the demonstrators! Traffic was backed up for a couple of miles! I was told a few other cops were shot during the weekend too.
I was in the bar during the day watching the news and all the locals were engrossed by the coverage. The bartender and security guard were actually crying.
Nothing looked out of the ordinary at night on the main strip (although it was my first trip to Sosua and really can't compare). A few chicas said it would be dangerous and nobody would be out but it looked fine to me. I don't know how much policing is normally on the strip, but I didn't see much.
MC
[QUOTE=Mikecnyc]I just got back from a few days in sosua yesterday. Last week one of the top drug cops was shot 48 times. From what the locals told be he was a honest guy that looked out for the people. He recently made a huge 250K kilo bust that got the pissed off the big guys. His friends set him up for the killing. There was a big march on the highway last Friday protestign his murder. I was going east so traffic was moving, but I feel sorry for the poor soles driving west behind the demonstrators! Traffic was backed up for a couple of miles! I was told a few other cops were shot during the weekend too.
I was in the bar during the day watching the news and all the locals were engrossed by the coverage. The bartender and security guard were actually crying.
Nothing looked out of the ordinary at night on the main strip (although it was my first trip to Sosua and really can't compare). A few chicas said it would be dangerous and nobody would be out but it looked fine to me. I don't know how much policing is normally on the strip, but I didn't see much.
MC[/QUOTE]I actually just got back from DR last Sunday from a 10 day trip and the last couple of days were terrible. Trying to drive past Charamicos was dangerous as people were protesting and rioting. Burning tires in the road and blocking the roads to POP. They were also throwing rocks at some passing cars. Its stopped me from going to Mangu my last night for safety reasons. DR is now in my past. Time to move on to Colombia and Brasil after 15 trips to the DR.
Hi, everybody.
I'm new in here and this is my first report. Sosua is my favorite place on earth beside Switzerland where I'm from. But well enough about that.
(hope my english isn't that bad)
I was in Sousa several time (last time in June) now I will be going back there on the 16. Of December for one month. I will stay in Hotel Orchidee which is really a nice place cus its also on walking distance to all the bars and discos.
Here is the link from the hotel [url]www.hotelorchidee. Ch[/url]. But sorry I have made the side only in german right now but check the pic from room (Zimmer) aren't this gals are just hot? Well I find them not in Sosua. If you like to know everything about that Hotel you can ask me as well.
When I wanna get a gal to carry home, I only ask for the price and usually not for how long. I guess its better when she ask for how long that you say for a hour or so. I got the expierience with women staying over night, that in the morning they are faster in there cloths as you can open your eyes and wanna leave, so better have your fun for one hour and sleep save and peacefully alone afterwards. I usually pay for my pleasure between 500 up to 1000 Peso. Oh well I know some gals and they know me. In June I had one gal who came to visit me mostly in afternoons in my hotel and I can tell you the BBBJ she gives can drive someone mad. I paid her all the time 500 Peso and she never watch or counted how much I have given her. Sometimes in the afternoon when she has seen me sitting somewhere, she came over and ask me for some money. I told her okay but later she should come and visit me in the room. Which work perfectly.
Well as you said her to speak some spanish can help alot and to threat them nicely too. My spanish isn't that good but I try to speak with them and learn more. Sometimes I just offer them a drink but tell them, that I will not take her home, usually they didn't have any problem, when you say that at the beginning. Its nice to hear the stories.
Some of my addvices. Don't pay in addvance, don't try to reduce the price when you allready at home, even if the game wasn't that good, just think okay thats happen give her the money and send her away. This leaves out of problem from police or joolo or so.
This are may expierience and I never had any big problems over ther.
So if someone needs help or a travelguide for Sosua during my time I'm dear just send me a pm.
Ben el suizo
Ben Hur,
Thanks for the report. I never noticed Hotel Orchidee before but it seems to be very near Rocky's from the map on the website. What is the hotel like? Prices? Would Americans be welcome? TIA.
Hi Marc Anthony,
well the Hotel is cheap and so are the rooms. Not a big comfort and also not so big. But there is a refrigerator und cable tv inside. I like it cus its really close, walking distance to the discos and bars. no need of a moto concho at all. its quiet. well there are no security but so u can come in and out with gals and there is no problem. The Hotelprices are okay so far in june i paid 20 dollar per night. but during high season they will be up to 30. The Hotelmanager is a older german man, but he didn't speak english. The good thing is, that he will pick you up from the airport and brings you back too, and also overs a free welcome and goodbye drink there. He is also the owner of all the beach toiletts/showers and we u stay in his hotel you can use them for free. The hotel by itself didn't have an pool, but for me i don't mind as the beach is not that far. Some rooms have airconditions for 5 Dollars Extra.
Well as i said i like it cus is close to center and didn't have to care about airport transport. Its really quiet and thats what i like. After a full partynight.
I guess the manager has no problem for americans and from other country as long as the keep up the quietness at night.
So well thats all i can say for now, any other question just ask, or if anyone likes to c a room during his holiday over there in december, just contact me, since i will be there from 16. till 16. of january.
Ben el suizo
Have any of you had any experience with the apartment rentals listed on the Sosua board? I had a three day stay at BB's a couple of years ago and I think I am more of a soloist than an ensemble player. I will rent a car (Idrive in Manhattan every day) so transportation will not be an issue. Thank you for sharing your time and experience.
How would one get out there...are there any intra-DR flights...how long would a drive be from say Sosua to Punta Cana?
[url]http://www.takeoffweb.com/[/url] has daily flights from POP to Punta Cana for $149.00.
Caribe tours bus line will take you to Santo Domingo but you'd have to take a smaller bus line to Punta Cana from there - a long day on the bus.
If you want to really take your time you can take Gua Guas to Samana then the ferry across samana bay and more gua guas to Higuey and eventually punta cana - probably best done over 2 days because you don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere at night.
If you're going to punta cana why not fly directly there?
Driving would take 6-8 hours and it's worth searching posts about driving in the DR before considering renting a car at all. That would be a major cross-country adventure passing through Santo Domingo. The Samana ferry is not a car ferry and would only carry a small motorcycle with some hassle.
There are no riots in Sosua now. I was there. Everything is calm and okay. I will write a report later. Although I didn't monger that much.
And I love the new curfew. These girls scramble after midnight. They are really ready to talk bargain. And I love fucking for three hours then still getting a good nights sleep. Going to sleep before the sun comes up is great!!
This past weekend I found quality in the disco to be near late 1990's quality. I was shocked after reading reports here. I was prepared to break out my "big"black book. But so far it has not been needed. I hope the quality does not disappear near Christmas, but I am sure it will as always. Hope to see some of you, I will be here until about 15 days into the New Year.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL YOU FELLOW CRAZY GUYS!!!!!!!!!
Fantasy - Thanks for the update. I will be in Sosua for the first time 2nd week of January. I made a reservation at the Europa but wasn't asked to give a credit card number. I assume it won't be really busy there right after Christmas.
Well in one day I'm back to my favorite place on earth.
And I hear since two or three days no rain, hope it will last a little longer.
Hope as well to see some of you guys over there
Ben el suizo. Will stay in Hotel Orchidee.
[QUOTE=Dran Reb]Fantasy - Thanks for the update. I will be in Sosua for the first time 2nd week of January. I made a reservation at the Europa but wasn't asked to give a credit card number. I assume it won't be really busy there right after Christmas.[/QUOTE]Forget it. The Europa will ***** out your room and you will be left standing with your suitcases and they won't even apologize. They couldn't care less if you have a reservation or not, if someone comes to the front desk to buy a room, they sell it. If you show up with a reservation, they say they don't have it.
Fantasy, again. Jazz and I will be there on the 5th. We need an oltimers party!
Yes. When you have confirmed reservstion have them e mail you confirmation. Print it out and take it with you. All the times I have stayed there I had to show them proof of reservation.
[QUOTE=Dran Reb]Fantasy - Thanks for the update. I will be in Sosua for the first time 2nd week of January. I made a reservation at the Europa but wasn't asked to give a credit card number. I assume it won't be really busy there right after Christmas.[/QUOTE]You will be o.k. Just ask for Diego, the owner. Have a copy of the e-mail regarding the reservation. There are numerous small hotels that you can stay. The best is to pay in US $. You get a small discount and you won't get screwed on the credit card exchange rate.
Other hotels are The New Garden, on Dr. Rosen & Hotel Residential, just up the street from the Europa. Both chica friendly and about the same price as The Europa.
Well I met up with some old aquaintences at the bar below the disco including Tampa B and the Merchant Marine!! J and I had several options brewing when my phone rang with an old time favorita. Seems as though her and her new roomate wanted to come over from Puerto Plata for a pajama party. So I never made it upstairs to the disco. But I will get an update from the guys and post.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that the bottom does not drop out on this good run as we approach Faliz Navidad! Those of you who know me well know that it is safe to say that I am very Picky. If Fantasy is happy with the present Quality it is more than a safe bet that most of you will be. But this can change in a minute as you long time sosua expats can verify.
I am planning a holiday party with some very special "Fantasies" planned. I will post details in the next few days. Of course all of you will be welcome, and will only be expected to bring your imagination. With my retirement coming in 2007, and my enormous latin american project with my partner (Ford from this Board), this will most likely be my final winter in the Dominican Republic. I look forward to telling all of you about our project we call "Club Paradise", in the upcoming months.
Pictures of the pajama party to follow, but don't expect to see any pajamas!!
[QUOTE=Fantasy]Well I met up with some old aquaintences at the bar below the disco including Tampa B and the Merchant Marine!! J and I had several options brewing when my phone rang with an old time favorita. Seems as though her and her new roomate wanted to come over from Puerto Plata for a pajama party. So I never made it upstairs to the disco. But I will get an update from the guys and post.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that the bottom does not drop out on this good run as we approach Faliz Navidad! Those of you who know me well know that it is safe to say that I am very Picky. If Fantasy is happy with the present Quality it is more than a safe bet that most of you will be. But this can change in a minute as you long time sosua expats can verify.
I am planning a holiday party with some very special "Fantasies" planned. I will post details in the next few days. Of course all of you will be welcome, and will only be expected to bring your imagination. With my retirement coming in 2007, and my enormous latin american project with my partner (Ford from this Board), this will most likely be my final winter in the Dominican Republic. I look forward to telling all of you about our project we call "Club Paradise", in the upcoming months.
Pictures of the pajama party to follow, but don't expect to see any pajamas!![/QUOTE]
Fantasy I really like your postings. Excellent work. Thanks for all the contributions.
Not as strong as I would have liked. Alot of illegal immigrants (if you know what I mean) from the other side of the island moved in. But I still think everyone could have found happiness with a little effort. The curfew has brought the rising price oF Ass to a hault. Great prices can be had a half hour before closing. I will try to keep you guys who are trying to decide on a holiday trip or not posted on the latest. Club X reopened. This makes four active discos in town, plus all the make believe discos on every corner. With the curfew, and the different locations it is fun just to watch these girls jump around trying to make the right play. Also I have found that many of the Bartenders head for the casino directly after work to spend all their tips. So this is now a real option for hunting after all else closes..................
The rates are cheaper for a 4 night stay than a 1 night stay. Also, if you pay in cash they give you a small discount. The security there is decent. They have cameras at the entrances and at different places at the hotel. They also have a security guard carrying a shotgun at night. I found the personnel there helpful. Also, if you run into any problems, they will try to help you. The safe they have is a numbered security safe instead of a key. It makes it a little safer than regular safes I saw at other hotels.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Yes. When you have confirmed reservstion have them e mail you confirmation. Print it out and take it with you. All the times I have stayed there I had to show them proof of reservation.[/QUOTE]
When I was at Classicos and Latinos I saw mostly black women. I don't have anything against this. I saw only a few caucasian or light skinned women (I'm assuming 2-3%). I'm not sure if this helps anyone. I'm not into black women too much, some of them there had amazing bodies though. When I went into these clubs I could hardly find something that I would be interested in.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]Not as strong as I would have liked. Alot of illegal immigrants (if you know what I mean) from the other side of the island moved in. But I still think everyone could have found happiness with a little effort. The curfew has brought the rising price oF Ass to a hault. Great prices can be had a half hour before closing. I will try to keep you guys who are trying to decide on a holiday trip or not posted on the latest. Club X reopened. This makes four active discos in town, plus all the make believe discos on every corner. With the curfew, and the different locations it is fun just to watch these girls jump around trying to make the right play. Also I have found that many of the Bartenders head for the casino directly after work to spend all their tips. So this is now a real option for hunting after all else closes..................[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]When I was at Classicos and Latinos I saw mostly black women. I don't have anything against this. I saw only a few [b]caucasian[/b] or light skinned women (I'm assuming 2-3%). I'm not sure if this helps anyone. I'm not into black women too much, some of them there had amazing bodies though. When I went into these clubs I could hardly find something that I would be interested in.[/QUOTE]Caucasian women? Try the All-Inclusives?
-Helpmann :D
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]When I was at Classicos and Latinos I saw mostly black women. I don't have anything against this. I saw only a few caucasian or light skinned women (I'm assuming 2-3%). I'm not sure if this helps anyone. I'm not into black women too much, some of them there had amazing bodies though. When I went into these clubs I could hardly find something that I would be interested in.[/QUOTE]
Santiago has a higher density of lighter skinned women... but this is the DR - not many women of European descent working the streets... they are part of the families that have money.
Looking forward to my first trip January 18th. One question I haven't been able to answer in my searching:
I'm flying in on the Jet Blue redeye to Santiago. Is there a bus to get to Sosua? I've seen references to Caribe Tours, but don't know if they have buses from Santiago to Sosua.
[QUOTE=Skatman]Looking forward to my first trip January 18th. One question I haven't been able to answer in my searching:
I'm flying in on the Jet Blue redeye to Santiago. Is there a bus to get to Sosua? I've seen references to Caribe Tours, but don't know if they have buses from Santiago to Sosua.[/QUOTE]
The late night means cab or an overnight in Santiago... buses don't run that late.
Skatman:
You're going to spend the night in a deserted airport in Santiago. Around 7-8 AM, you'll be able to get a taxi to Caribetours (don't pay more than 500 pesos - verify this before you take the taxi). The bus to Sosua is cheap.
The bus stop is in Charamicos - you'll need a taxi or a motoconcho for the short ride into Sosua.
Assuming you mean the flight that lands about 4:35am; by the time you clear customs and get your luggage it'll be after 5:00am. Get a cab to the caribe tours and catch the 6:00am bus. You'll be in Sosua in time for a late breakfast at Rocky's :)
[QUOTE=Skatman]Looking forward to my first trip January 18th. One question I haven't been able to answer in my searching:
I'm flying in on the Jet Blue redeye to Santiago. Is there a bus to get to Sosua? I've seen references to Caribe Tours, but don't know if they have buses from Santiago to Sosua.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ApostropheMan]Assuming you mean the flight that lands about 4:35am; by the time you clear customs and get your luggage it'll be after 5:00am. Get a cab to the caribe tours and catch the 6:00am bus. You'll be in Sosua in time for a late breakfast at Rocky's :)[/QUOTE]Rockin. Thanks much for the help. Will provide detailed report. ;)
I hadn't been to Sosua since summer of '04. First let me say that I am thankful most dudes aren't very particular or I would either have had to work very hard or pay premium for decent talent. I was able keep the prices at mininum, thankfully but it was no where near the ridiculus pocket change I was paying in '04. The initial asking price was out of sync with quality of the talent but the partying was great. Definitely still one of the favorites.
Well well well, I'm back down here in Sosua and everything is just fine. The gals the weather and the rest as well. I arrived saturday late evening and sunday evening i went to the Santo Domingo so yesterday i picked up my Cedula. I came back yesterday evening and allready my favorite gal visited me in my room. She is a domenican girl 18 years old and has just a perfect body. The session with her costs me usually 500 Peso. Well she is cheap and perfect. So today i will check out for the first time the discos and c whats going on there.
I stay as I told here in Hotel Orchidee which is close to the bars and discos.
So everybody wanna meet or so just go there and ask for Ben. During daytime I stay at the ticktack bar on pedro clisante or on the beach on different places.
Will tell more whats going on later.
Ben el suizo
Staying at New Garden Hotel #6, if anyone wants to get together for beers or mongering. about my 6th trip to Sosua
Its nice over here in Sosua bad some girls are getting bad more and more. As I still have fun with my girl which is visiting me during timetime in my room I also shaking around with other girls.
Yesterday on the beach I meet this pretty haitian girl. At the beginning she was really nice and we had fun together in the bars at the beach. But as she was drinking some Cuba libre she was changing her mood. I wanted take here later as I told here so and was willing to. But as my friend has but 200 peso on the table she was taking it and didn't wanna give me back. Okay its no problem the money, but she said the the money was for the time I spend with here on the beach (pago para tiempo). We started a fight about it and she said she will call the police and so. As the girlfriends of my friends was talking with here in creol, she was shocked and has given the money back.
So when I meet a nice girl on the beach bring her home and have fun and don't stay to long on the beach with her, as you may get in the same trouble.
Here is the picture of that girl so be carefull. Maybe you will have even more problem with here at home too.
But anywhy its xmastime and any of them looking for money to go to there family in santo doming.
So I wish to everybody nice xmas and happy new year. I will stay here in Sosua till 16 of January.
Hasta luego y feliz navida
Ben Hur
(Hotel Orchidee / Calle Dr Rosen)
Hell, I hate to open my first post with a question, but after several years and mongering locations, I am ready to take my first quick trip to Sosua.
After quite a bit of lurking and researching this very informative sight, I feel as though I have a rather good feel for the place.
I just have one question. Due to time constraints, I can only do a 4 day 3 night trip. I've read up and down these posts and reports and I still can't determine which is the nicest Chica Friendly Hotel in the area!
I've read the posts about the usual places like Europa and BB's, but am hoping to stay somewhere more upscale. Any feedback would be most appreciated.
I will contribute my report when I get back. I'm looking at Jan 11-14th.
Thanks for the help!
[QUOTE=Prowler2]Hell, I hate to open my first post with a question, but after several years and mongering locations, I am ready to take my first quick trip to Sosua.
After quite a bit of lurking and researching this very informative sight, I feel as though I have a rather good feel for the place.
I just have one question. Due to time constraints, I can only do a 4 day 3 night trip. I've read up and down these posts and reports and I still can't determine which is the nicest Chica Friendly Hotel in the area!
I've read the posts about the usual places like Europa and BB's, but am hoping to stay somewhere more upscale. Any feedback would be most appreciated.
I will contribute my report when I get back. I'm looking at Jan 11-14th.
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]
I would go Field of Dreams.... though not palatial bedrooms - they are clean and comfortable... the place is secluded yet handy to Sousa and POP and BBs... hell Billy will help get you around.
The upscale alternatives are generlly not chica friendly though one a night could be done with a few bribes/extra fees.
[QUOTE=Prowler2]Hell, I hate to open my first post with a question, but after several years and mongering locations, I am ready to take my first quick trip to Sosua.
After quite a bit of lurking and researching this very informative sight, I feel as though I have a rather good feel for the place.
I just have one question. Due to time constraints, I can only do a 4 day 3 night trip. I've read up and down these posts and reports and I still can't determine which is the nicest Chica Friendly Hotel in the area!
I've read the posts about the usual places like Europa and BB's, but am hoping to stay somewhere more upscale. Any feedback would be most appreciated.
I will contribute my report when I get back. I'm looking at Jan 11-14th.
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]Try the New Garden Hotel on Dr. Rosen in Sosua. A step above Europa.
About the same price but more quiet. Also check out Hotel Residential up the street from the Europa. About $50 / night. Also, Field of Dreams is about 20 mins from Sosua.
[QUOTE=Prowler2]Hell, I hate to open my first post with a question, but after several years and mongering locations, I am ready to take my first quick trip to Sosua.
After quite a bit of lurking and researching this very informative sight, I feel as though I have a rather good feel for the place.
I just have one question. Due to time constraints, I can only do a 4 day 3 night trip. I've read up and down these posts and reports and I still can't determine which is the nicest Chica Friendly Hotel in the area!
I've read the posts about the usual places like Europa and BB's, but am hoping to stay somewhere more upscale. Any feedback would be most appreciated.
I will contribute my report when I get back. I'm looking at Jan 11-14th.
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]If you are looking for somewhere in Sosua more upscale than the Europa, you have two options. You can either rent a private villa (try Googling something like "Sosua villa rental") or you can take a room at a more upscale hotel like Piergorgio or Sosua-by-the-Sea and then take your chicas to a short stay place--Calypso--for $10 each time, or rent a secondary room at the Europa to use for amatory purposes. I would rent a room at the Europa for the duration.
To stay at one of the upper tier hotels in Sosua, you may get a better rate by purchasing the hotel room in a package with your airline ticket.
Field of Dreams is no more upscale than the Europa--or only fractionally so--and is not terribly conveniently located for Sosua.
Three nights is ample for an enjoyable stay. It may even be the optimum length of stay. I am sure that wherever you decide to room, you will have a great time in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]Try the New Garden Hotel on Dr. Rosen in Sosua. A step above Europa.
About the same price but more quiet. Also check out Hotel Residential up the street from the Europa. About $50 / night. Also, Field of Dreams is about 20 mins from Sosua.[/QUOTE]
yeah but you can get to and from both sousa and pop for 500 pesos so if there are a couple of you it is cheap... and there are usually people at FoD that will split the fare... or Billy can help with transportation....
and the massage girls there is really hot and loves anal!!!
[b][color=green][size=5]Flight[/size][/color][/b]
I booked the charter flight with Jetairfly through this site:
[url]http://www.jetairfly.com/nl/index.php[/url]
This is the Flemish (Belgian) version, but sites for other European countries are available by clicking on the flags at the bottom of the page.
A round-trip ticket from Brussels to Puerto Plata cost me 298€, including all taxes (149€ for each leg).
- The allowance for checked in luggage was 25 kg.
- Meals were included.
* Non-alcoholic beverages were free of charge.
* Alcoholic drinks had to be paid for.
- On the way there, we made a 30 minute stopover in Punta Cana.
The tourist card, which costs 10 USD, was included in the price of my ticket. And there was no departure tax (20 USD) to be paid when I left.
A taxi to the airport costs 600 DOP. But if you ask at hotel reception, they can get a motoconcho to fetch you a “carro publico” for just 300 DOP (+ 30 DOP for the motoconcho).
[b][color=green][size=5]Restaurants[/size][/color][/b]
Rocky’s was by far my favorite restaurant. The first 2 days in the DR, I had the runs. Once I started eating at Rocky’s, that was a thing of the past. The food is prepared fresh, so the service may be a tad slow, but it’s definitely worth the wait.
Ted (the bartender) is a great guy, who has some fascinating stories to tell. At the start of my trip, he was proud to tell everyone he had a girlfriend. A few days later, he was single again.
Unlike in most other restaurants in Sosúa, the menu prices are net – tax is already included and no service charge is added. So don’t forget to tip Ted; he basically lives off his tips.
Marco (the owner) has quite a picture collection, which he may be willing to share with you. The “Doubleicious” collection features some great shots!
The kitchen at Rocky’s closes rather early (between 10 and 10.30 PM). After that, your best bets are the roadside food vendors or PJ’s, which is open 24 hours.
[b][color=green][size=5]Motoconchos[/size][/color][/b]
Motoconchos cost a flat 20 DOP around town. As in Thailand, they’ll charge you double for 2 people. As it’s the same price, I prefer to take separate motoconchos in that case – one for me, one for her. It’s safer and you spread the wealth.
Being cheap when it comes to transportation, I walked everywhere. Most chicas were made to walk from Clasico to my hotel as well – I tell them walking together is romantic.
[b][color=green][size=5]Laundry[/size][/color][/b]
- The lavanderia at the Hotel Europe charges 250 DOP / machine, which is a total rip-off.
- Just a block away, across the street from the Club Residencial, they only charge 120 DOP / machine (washing & drying; no ironing).
* They tried to charge me for 3 machines (white, light color & dark color).
* I quickly straightened that out and reduced it to 2 machines (white & color).
* If you wanna save money on laundry, don’t bring any whites!
- The lavanderia opposite Rocky’s only charges 100 DOP / machine.
[b][color=green][size=5]SIM Card[/size][/color][/b]
I got my local SIM card at the Orange shop next to the Banco Popular.
- You need to bring your passport.
- The SIM card (activacion) cost me 350 DOP.
Loso
[b][color=green][size=5]Timing[/size][/color][/b]
I was in Sosúa:
October 12 - October 25 (13 nights)
I spent the first night of my holiday in the DR (October 11) in Puerto Plata.
[b][color=green][size=5]Statistics[/size][/color][/b]
During my 13-day stay in Sosúa, I had:
ST: 11
LT: 7
Girls: 17
I didn’t get laid on my sole night in Puerto Plata.
[b][color=green][size=5]Merengue Bar & Clasico Disco[/size][/color][/b]
The girls and punters who arrive early often hang out at the Merengue Bar downstairs, waiting for the disco to get busy.
Clasico opens at 10 PM and closes at midnight (Sunday–Thursday) or 2AM (Friday & Saturday). Especially on weekdays, that leaves you with precious little time to party and find company for the night.
Still, Clasico Disco is the place where I met most of my chicas and where I have the best memories. Dominicanas love to dance and having a chica rub her ass, tits & pussy against me all evening was a blast. Unfortunately, the performance in bed often didn’t live up to the performance in the disco.
For me, Clasico Disco was the [b]only [/b]place in Sosúa where quality talent could be found. Some of the disco girls may hang out at the beach in the daytime or at the multitude of bars along Pedro Clisante earlier in the evening, but the hot babes either can’t be bothered or are otherwise engaged.
To get some quality talent in your room for an afternoon or early evening ST, I would recommend collecting phone numbers in the disco and calling them when you have an urge. I got a few girls’ numbers, but arranged meetings are ultimately not my style.
[b][color=green][size=5]Pedro Clisante Bars[/size][/color][/b]
There are plenty of small bars along the main drag Pedro Clisante & some of its side streets. I never counted them, but have read reports claiming there are 30+ bars. Still, most bars have less than a handful of girls, so I estimate that the total number of chicas would be around the 100 mark.
That’s less than the turnout at the Merengue Bar / Clasico Disco on any given night, and the quality is much lower. I found very few girls to my liking in the bars, except for Yuli from La Bonita... and she wouldn’t go with me.
[b][color=green][size=5]Sosúa Beach Scene[/size][/color][/b]
Some girls also hang out at the Sosúa beach bars during the daytime. Unlike in the disco, there are way more punters than there are chicas and the quality is low.
[b][color=green][size=5]Sosúa Chicas[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Beauty[/size][/color][/b]
The overall quality of the selection in Sosúa didn’t impress me at all. Real hotties are few and far between... and they know what they’re worth. Ugly girls are a dime a dozen and can be picked up cheaply... but I had no interest in them.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Price[/size][/color][/b]
For the better-looking girls in Sosúa, I generally paid 1500 DOP ST and 2500-3000 DOP LT. Those prices are higher than what my research revealed and more than I expected to be paying.
There were very few chicas I liked, so I always tried to hook up as early as possible in the disco. The later it is, the better your negotiating position, but the beautiful chicas get picked up early. I know that bargains can be had at closing time, but when I was without a chica when Clasico closed, I ended up going home alone. The leftovers didn’t appeal to me.
There are way more punters than there are beautiful girls in Sosúa. Quite a few experienced mongers told me: “If you want quality, you have to pay!” I did want quality. I did pay. Maybe I overpaid?
BTW, I did get plenty of offers as low as 500 DOP ST and 1000 DOP LT. But they were not the kind of girls I wanted to fuck...
[b][color=blue][size=4]Variety[/size][/color][/b]
You have a choice between Dominicanas and Haitianas, with skin colors ranging from golden brown to pitch black. There’s plenty of variety in Sosúa.
Blanca chicas are a rarity, though. The only truly blanca chica I met was Carolina, who likes to be called Baby. She has a really pretty face, but her complexion isn’t all that good, so she needs a lot of make-up. Still, she wants 3000 DOP ST... and gets it all the time.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Big Booty[/size][/color][/b]
Big booties seemed to be the norm in Sosúa. Of course, the majority of the Sosúa mongers are black Americans and a lot of them indicated a preference for big booties, so there’s definitely a market for them.
I personally prefer flaca chicas. But the face remains the most important selection criterion, so a pretty face always trumps a hot body.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Service[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=3]French Kissing[/size][/color][/b]
DFK: 5
Nada: 12
I consider no French kissing to be the hallmark of an ultra-professional puta.
French kissing is an essential part of the GFE and this statistic is totally unacceptable!
[b][color=purple][size=3]Blowjobs[/size][/color][/b]
BBBJ: 13
CBJ: 3
Nada: 1
Not a perfect score, but good enough.
[b][color=purple][size=3]Fucking[/size][/color][/b]
Good Fuck: 11
Sterile Fuck: 5
Once again, decent enough score.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Mentirosas[/size][/color][/b]
Some girls promised to spend the night (sleep 8 eight hours – 2 rounds), yet they woke me up early in the morning, all dressed up and ready to go.
Others agreed to provide certain services, but ultimately wouldn’t.
So many mentirosas in Sosúa...
[b][color=blue][size=4]Sweetness[/size][/color][/b]
Thai girls can be so sweet. Brasileiras are ever so carinhosa. That explains why they’re the world’s top mongering destinations.
Apart from a few notable exceptions, the Dominicanas didn’t seem to have a sweet bone in their body. Most seemed hard-edged with a very professional attitude.
Dominicanas don’t seek body contact when they spend the night with you either. They sleep on their side of the bed; you sleep on your side. Sleeping with a Dominicana is just like sleeping with... your wife.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Hijos[/size][/color][/b]
Hijos: 12
Nada: 5
Most of the chicas in Sosúa have kids. The good news is that stretch marks are a rarity (1 out of 12). The bad news is that their tits cannot defy gravity.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Language[/size][/color][/b]
The Dominicanas obviously speak Spanish. Some may speak a little English (or even German), but most chicas speak nothing but Spanish.
Haitianas speak Creole, a French patois that is incomprehensible to French speakers. The Haitianas in Sosúa generally speak Spanish as well. Some of them may also speak fluent French.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Hygiene[/size][/color][/b]
Hygiene is not a topic I mention very often in my reports. I found working girls all over the world to have a very high standard of personal hygiene. Considering what they do for a living, it’s in their best interests.
Unfortunately, the DR chicas do not comply with that pattern. Some girls simply refused to take a shower, telling me that they were clean already. Others took some convincing before I could get them to wash at least their tits & pussy.
The overall standard of hygiene in Sosúa is the lowest I’ve ever encountered. And poor personal hygiene is simply unacceptable.
[b][color=green][size=5]Sosúa Mongers[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Weekend Tourists[/size][/color][/b]
The reception area at the Hotel Europa was sometimes full of people waiting to check in on Thursdays & Fridays. And one Monday, the maid told me that 27 people had checked out that day.
Cheap, direct flights make Sosúa a viable (extended) weekend destination for Americans (especially New Yorkers).
Black Americans dominate Sosúa, followed by white Americans and Europeans.
[b][color=blue][size=4]No More Germans?[/size][/color][/b]
The Germans are often pioneers when it comes to discovering mongering destinations. The fact that the Sosúa girls use the term fickie-fickie (not fuckie-fuckie) illustrates its German heritage.
Girls with a preference for European customers (some of which spoke German), were complaining about the lack of Europeans in Sosúa. Maybe the Germans have discovered more fertile grounds? Or maybe it was just low season?
[b][color=green][size=5]Ted’s Quotes[/size][/color][/b]
A few quotes from Ted (from Rocky’s), who’s lived in Sosúa for 12 years:
- When a chica steals from you, get her name (from hotel reception) and her picture (if you have any) and go to the police. Tell them she stole [b]3 times[/b] the amount she actually stole. The police will pay her a visit and demand half the money she stole. If she coughs up, she’s out of pocket. If she doesn’t pay, the cops will beat her up. You won’t get your money back, but you can get your own back.
- A lot of the chicas in Sosúa carry concealed weapons (mostly knives). They’re unlikely to use them on you, though. What happens a lot is that a girl, who’s just been with a guy and made some money, will get attacked by other girls. The knife will allow her to defend herself. Talk about cut-throat competition between the girls!
- The New Yorkers have fucked up the market in Sosúa. They pay 100 USD for a ST and still think it’s cheap.
BTW, that last statement does not imply that Ted doesn’t like New Yorkers. He basically lives off his tips and the New Yorkers are generous tippers, so he absolutely adores them! It’s simply a statement of fact.
[b][color=green][size=5]Final Words[/size][/color][/b]
The main thing the DR has going for itself is its proximity to and easy accessibility from the US. But unless the flight time is your primary concern, there are better places to spend your mongering budget.
Loso
[b][color=green][size=5]Field of Dreams[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Web Site[/size][/color][/b]
[url]http://fieldofdreams.8m.com[/url]
[u]Warning:[/u]
When you try and access the site, you may receive a pop-up urging you to install DriveCleaner. When I refused to install it, my browser went blank.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Rooms[/size][/color][/b]
The rooms feature:
- A comfortable double bed.
- A table and chair.
- A safe in the wardrobe.
* The safe if big enough to hold a 17” laptop.
* The safe is flat and wasn’t high enough to hold my SLR camera or lenses.
- The safe has a key, which means you have to hide the key when a chica spends the night.
- An empty fridge.
- A good A/C unit.
- Cable TV.
- A hot water shower.
- A separate toilet.
- A balcony with chairs, overlooking the grounds and pool.
Although the room was perfectly adequate, it was rather bare and had this “unfinished” look.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Grounds[/size][/color][/b]
The landscaped grounds and pool are the hotel’s most noteworthy features.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Location[/size][/color][/b]
The Field of Dreams is in the middle of nowhere. Except maybe for the disco at the Playa Dorada resort across the street, no P4P venues are within walking distance. Even the Puerto Plata strip clubs (Casa Ana Mirian, El Bohen & Crystal’s) are some distance from the hotel.
Of course, the main action is in Sosúa. The one time I took a taxi to Sosúa, it cost me 200 DOP, with a lot of bargaining. That was in the morning and I was carrying my luggage. Without luggage / at night, prices may be lower / higher.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Price[/size][/color][/b]
My room was paid for by Bruce (from TSM), who’s an investor in the hotel.
According to the web site, the room rate is 43.10 USD + 16% taxes, which adds up to a round 50 USD.
[b][color=green][size=5]Hotel Plaza Europa[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Web Site[/size][/color][/b]
[url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com[/url]
[b][color=blue][size=4]Rooms[/size][/color][/b]
As in Field of Dreams, the rooms feature:
- A comfortable double bed.
- A table and 2 chairs.
- A safe in the wardrobe.
* The safe was big enough to hold my SLR camera and lenses.
* The safe has a number lock, which saves you the hassle of hiding the key.
- An empty fridge.
- A decent A/C unit.
- Cable TV.
* Includes a porn channel.
- A hot water shower and toilet.
- A balcony with chairs, overlooking the pool.
The rooms also feature the following, lacking at Field of Dreams:
- A kitchenette with microwave oven.
- Nightstands each side of the bed.
- Photogenic curtains & bedspread.
- Alarm clock.
- Hairdryer.
- Ironing board & iron.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Grounds[/size][/color][/b]
The hotel also features a swimming pool.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Location[/size][/color][/b]
The Hotel Europa is right at the heart of the Sosúa entertainment area, so you’ll never need a taxi unless you want to check out the Puerto Plata strip clubs.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Price[/size][/color][/b]
My hotel room cost 40 USD, including all taxes.
I received a 5% discount for cash payment.
The apartments, located down a side street, are cheaper.
[b][color=blue][size=4]Check-out Time[/size][/color][/b]
The check-out time is 2 PM.
[b][color=green][size=5]Conclusion[/size][/color][/b]
- The Hotel Plaza Europa is at the center of the action, whereas the Field of Dreams is in the middle of nowhere.
* Staying near the action can save you a fortune in cab fares.
- The rooms at the Hotel Plaza Europa are large and well equipped, whereas the rooms at the Field of Dreams are smallish and look bare.
- The Hotel Plaza Europa is cheaper than Field of Dreams.
Field of Dreams vs. Hotel Plaza Europa? [b]No contest![/b]
Loso
Excellent reports. You gave a good overview of the Sosuá scene. However, I must say that I did luck up on some quality talent at closing time but your assessment is pretty much correct. All in all a fun time, but finding quality takes a bit of work. I have come to expect that from Sosuá.
Loso69,
Is the part about negotiating pricing for GOOD LOOKING chicas in Sosua really 1500 pesos ST and 2500-3000 TLN?? Not that I can't afford it, but I had been led to believe from previous posts that they were much lower. Heck, people made fun of me for paying these exact prices at BB's and I was able to find some quality there.
Is this because of a lack of negotiating skills or maybe comprehension of the Spanish language? Or is it that a lot of mongers go for the ugly ones because of the price? Let me know so I can plan accordingly for my trip in Feb.
As far as the sweetness of the chicas goes in the DR (I have limited exposure here-2 trips down in a controlled environment-BB's), but I found the above comments NOT to be the case, so long as you have a basic understanding of the culture. I read up on being a tigre' in the forums here and I found that although the chicas start their approach with you with a "hard edge", they often soften up when they see you setting boundaries and taking charge correctly.
Heck, there was a string of threads fairly recently about one chica (Black Barbie/Louisa) a beautiful girl who has somewhat of a predatory reputation and I found her to be the sweetest thing in the world once she saw me as a tigre'. She was so sweet that I had to invoke the "three day rule" while I was with her because she was getting inside my heart. Word spread that I was a tigre' and AND a nice guy and all the chicas treated me well from the beginning.
Ponderosa,
As I said, there are way more punters than beautiful girls in Sosúa. Even if a beauty refuses to go for less than 3000 DOP LT, she’ll still get a customer (almost) every single day. Simple market economics.
You can get girls for as little as 500 DOP ST and 1000 DOP LT, but they’ll be fat and/or ugly.
BTW, my Spanish isn’t great, but I have no trouble communicating with the girls. But I never bothered to learn any grammar, so I don’t conjugate my verbs. :)
About the sweetness. I do most of my mongering in Asia, so I judge the girls by Asian standards. Asian girls are so much sweeter than Latinas. I recently spent a month in China. I couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, yet most of them provided a better GFE than the Dominicanas.
I’ve attached pics of a few chicas, to give you an idea of the quality I was aiming for. BTW, pretty faces are my thing.
Loso
Impressed.... great report... and I don't say that lightly. I like the way it was structured.... perfect, I might use your format in future reports! I could not agree more with EVERYTHING you said in your report. For me (from NYC also) I travel to the area for business and it's as simple as that. I have been going down to the DR for over 15 years and I can tell you that it has changed quite a bit. I totally think that the German's are a perfect indication of what's hot and what's not. In the early 90'd they hit the DR with a passion and for good reason. LT was about $25 USD and you couldn't throw a dart without hitting a solid 8 or better. Boy have times changed. In the late 90's it was Cuba then Columbia etc. etc. Returning to the DR (15 years older and about 30lbs heavier than I was in my prime) does not fair well with the current econimics and situation. Too many P4P tourists that are willing to fork over $100 to a chica. I wish my business took me somewhere else... cause quality and attitude are in dire straights of late. Sadly, it is supply and demand... and I do not think it will change anytime in the near future, UNLESS ... Fidel's brother decides to turn Cuba into little America .. hopefully for the Cuban's and the rest of the old school punters on the board, that will not happen. Let me know where you plan your next trip, I'll be in Peru, Ecuador and Columbia sometime in Feb or Mar. Let me know,
ENDER
[QUOTE=Loso69]Ponderosa,
As I said, there are way more punters than beautiful girls in Sosúa. Even if a beauty refuses to go for less than 3000 DOP LT, she’ll still get a customer (almost) every single day. Simple market economics.
You can get girls for as little as 500 DOP ST and 1000 DOP LT, but they’ll be fat and/or ugly.
BTW, my Spanish isn’t great, but I have no trouble communicating with the girls. But I never bothered to learn any grammar, so I don’t conjugate my verbs. :)
About the sweetness. I do most of my mongering in Asia, so I judge the girls by Asian standards. Asian girls are so much sweeter than Latinas. I recently spent a month in China. I couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, yet most of them provided a better GFE than the Dominicanas.
I’ve attached pics of a few chicas, to give you an idea of the quality I was aiming for. BTW, pretty faces are my thing.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Also Loso, I the early days of my international mongering I would have said that the Latin girls were much better in terms of warmth and GFE. Sad to see that has changed but I haven't seen those super-warm light hearted non-pros in the latin girls in about 5 years and even then it was in Cuba and Columbia.
ENDER
Ender,
My last contract finished on August 8, and I pretty much traveled non-stop until early December. But I start a new contract on Jan 2, which is in... 3 days.
I will be making a few trips while I’m working, and will be taking at least 6 months off when I finish my contract. I’ll let you know.
Loso
Put your requests in to jetblue at this link [url]http://www.jetblue.com/email/citysuggest.asp?intcmp=where_we_fly1[/url] to start flying to DR from JFK to Puerto Plata so we dont have to do the long drive from Santiago to Puerto Plata/Sosua anymore or any long connecting flights from JFK to Miami or San Juan, THANKS HAVE A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS MONGERING NEW YEAR TO ALL THOSE ON ISG!!!!!!!!!
Loso loved your detailed reports on DR and other location on other sites as well, no offense but most of the putas you have in your pictures are the hard-core of the hardest down in Sosua I know most of them and they have been down there for atleast 2 years or so, you know as a seasoned monger that *****s that have been in the game for a while are not going to give you the GFE, and I think you over paid these putas the most they should of get is 2000RD (but hey it's your money and your vacation so who am I to tell you what to do), you might as well went to Cristals and El Bohiem in Puerto Plata if you where going to give Sosua putas 3000RD and you would of found better quality out of there and them putas give better service in opinion for the money you would be giving them than a Sosua puta.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Ponderosa,
As I said, there are way more punters than beautiful girls in Sosúa. Even if a beauty refuses to go for less than 3000 DOP LT, she’ll still get a customer (almost) every single day. Simple market economics.
You can get girls for as little as 500 DOP ST and 1000 DOP LT, but they’ll be fat and/or ugly.
BTW, my Spanish isn’t great, but I have no trouble communicating with the girls. But I never bothered to learn any grammar, so I don’t conjugate my verbs. :)
About the sweetness. I do most of my mongering in Asia, so I judge the girls by Asian standards. Asian girls are so much sweeter than Latinas. I recently spent a month in China. I couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, yet most of them provided a better GFE than the Dominicanas.
I’ve attached pics of a few chicas, to give you an idea of the quality I was aiming for. BTW, pretty faces are my thing.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Papa Nyc,
They were the best looking girls in Sosua at the time of my visit… and that’s my only criterion. I couldn’t possibly know that they’ve been around for years, as this was my first visit to the DR... and my last.
BRW, I did spend one night in Puerto Plata. The girl I wanted from El Bohen wouldn’t go for less than 4500 DOP (including salida), even though it was closing time. I passed.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Papa Nyc,
They were the best looking girls in Sosua at the time of my visit… and that’s my only criterion. I couldn’t possibly know that they’ve been around for years, as this was my first visit to the DR... and my last.
BRW, I did spend one night in Puerto Plata. The girl I wanted from El Bohen wouldn’t go for less than 4500 DOP (including salida), even though it was closing time. I passed.
Loso[/QUOTE]
I cant blame ya for giving the DR the blow off. It is definately not what it used to be. Too many mongers (especially from NYC) overpaying the putas and screwing things up. Not to mention the quality of putas has declinced.
The DR doesnt impress me in the least, wrote that place off a couple years ago. Too many other places to see, no need to return there.
I did a short trip to Sosua for the New Year and the weekend was as dismal a mongering experience I have had. Sosua use to be OK hookers at rock bottom prices now it is fugly to OK hookers at premium prices. It is time to retire Sosua from my list.
I'm debating myself whether or not to go back to Sosua. I did a lot of regular tourist trips and some of those trips aren't to be missed. Acitivity trips in Sosua are cheap compared to other places. I full day of horseback riding is like 35 dollars.
I was warned about these hard core girls in Sosua. "These girls steal. Some of these girls carry knives. Others tell lies and leave early. Some of them have a small time police boyfriend and ask for more money." Some of these statements have been confirmed in this message board and other boards on the internet. I received a warning from my hotel personnel and from expats who lived there. I met one guy who lived their 15+ years and said that he would see any of those classico disco gals. I ventured out to classicos and D'latinos to see what it was like. I saw a lot of ugly girls. It was also dark. I also saw a lot of mongers there. However. there are way more girls than guys there. I did see a few girls that I would have liked to have taken out. However, I was warned "the prettier they are, the more trouble they are" This statement kept me from picking any girls in Classicos.
I read a lot of advice on here. Some of you suggest not to pick up street rats. But let me ask you this, all of the girls in Sosua are street rats. Okay I know some of them are nice. I've seen some mongers in Sosua and they seem to be having a good time. However, there is no way for some newbie like me without fluent spanish speaking abilities to probably pick up a descent chick. Or are some of these hardcore chica stories exagerated?
My first night there I was speaking to a chick in a bar. She spoke english and wanted 2500 for a 3 hour affair. I negotiated it down to 2000. Okay it was my first night and I overpaid. I was also a little horny. So I have sex with her in my hotel for an hour. Then she decides its time to leave. She says its time for her to go. I decided that I didn't want any hassle so I give her the 2000 pesos. She wants more. She wants 500 pesos more for salida. At the bar, she never mentioned any Salida. I didn't want to pay her the 500 pesos extra and she just sits there. I go downstairs to the hotel personel. I can hear her from the room saying "hey there's something wrong with your window, its broken" Anyway she follows me down and gets her id. Then she follows me back to my room and I shut the door in her face and say that I'm not going to give you 500 pesos. This incident stopped me from mongering too much in DR. It also ruined my vacation. Before my trip, I read a story on here about how one of you guys had a problem with two girls and somehow the police was involved. I didn't want the same thing happening to me. I know probably some of you would suggest that I should go to Blackbeards if I need safety and to be spoonfed.
If I do go to Sosua, I will take a trip to Crystals and see what it's like there.
The ugly chicas = Less $ and usually less agravation
The fine chicas = More $ and more of a pain in the ass.
Sometimes it better for ST only and if you find one that doesn't steal & lie,
then keep her for TLN and more.
On my September trip a chica took money from my friends pants while he
wasn't looking. The typical story then happened after he kicked her out and took back the money. She shows up with a plain clothes cop who staggered around drunk with a cuba libe in his hand. The chica claims she was robbed. After the situation was translated by the owner of the hotel to my friend he was advised to give the chica back his money that she stole from him. If my friend did not do so the police would be back and take his pasport until the trial in about 3 weeks. The owner of the hotel explained at the trial you will be found not guilty but you are stuck there for 3 weeks.
From my past experiences this hotel, The Europa, is know to the chicas as to where the newbies start out. They know they can pull their shit there and it seems that the cops are involved. The owner though is very helpful and I do
not believe he benefits from this in any way.
Wow, these last 4 or 5 reports have really deterred me from going to Puerto Plata / Sosua.
I thank you guys for saving me the trouble!
Remember, gimme a shout if y'all need any info on the Montreal scene.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]From my past experiences this hotel, The Europa, is know to the chicas as to where the newbies start out. They know they can pull their shit there and it seems that the cops are involved.[/QUOTE]
I heard otherwise from Ted (from Rocky’s). He said that the “cops” generally weren’t real cops. They’re ex-cops or people who just happen to have a police uniform. If they are real cops, they’re operating alone, without their bosses knowing about it.
Ted told me: “If a so-called cop shows up at your hotel, ask to go to the police station to talk to his commanding officer. Your problem will disappear instantly!”
Loso
many reasons not 2 hobby in the DR
dark women r ugly-IMHO
they are 2 hardcore-they will steal &/or fuck up your possessions or cause you extra charges elsewhere if u dont get their way
there service sucks-i have been reading the boards for 3 years now
the cops are on the take-they will basically rob you or extort money from you when they take the girl's side of the story
DR is not safe-high HIV+ haitians that r ugly & the crime rate is high
I have made a pile of trips there over the past 3-4 years and so have many of my friends... none of us have had any problems... generally we are the problem - a bunch of big fat drunk guys.... you know the Animal House line: "Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life" - but it is a great way to end it!
[QUOTE=Loso69]Ponderosa,
As I said, there are way more punters than beautiful girls in Sosúa. Even if a beauty refuses to go for less than 3000 DOP LT, she’ll still get a customer (almost) every single day. Simple market economics.
You can get girls for as little as 500 DOP ST and 1000 DOP LT, but they’ll be fat and/or ugly.
BTW, my Spanish isn’t great, but I have no trouble communicating with the girls. But I never bothered to learn any grammar, so I don’t conjugate my verbs. :)
About the sweetness. I do most of my mongering in Asia, so I judge the girls by Asian standards. Asian girls are so much sweeter than Latinas. I recently spent a month in China. I couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, yet most of them provided a better GFE than the Dominicanas.
I’ve attached pics of a few chicas, to give you an idea of the quality I was aiming for. BTW, pretty faces are my thing.
Loso[/QUOTE]
I have had a few of those sweeties.... tania or whatever her name is is a twin I seem to recall....
And I just threw out Raquel's number... it was at least 9 months old - they go through numbers like crazy.... the ups and downs of prepays
I agree with many things being said about the DR however I am going back for an extended amount of time just to make sure.
I will not be going to sosua instead I will force myself to venture out into the country a little more and see where that takes me. Im 36 from new york and can speak enough spanish and I know alot about spanish music...somewhere along the line I should get laid.
Also I feel sosua or DR just might not be the right place for some people . I dont think it's a very forgiving place if you make a mistake or dont have your act together. I usually stay in cabarete and do just fine. Nobody really thinks of cabarete as a location to monger but from what I saw of sosua Im glad I stayed there versus sosua. Sosua has the worst group of tourists Ive ever seen...sorry to offend anyone.
New yorkers ruin everything its true Im from new york born and raised. The reason guys are willing to pay $100 is because you cant even get into a club and have one drink for under $50 when you add entrance fee coat check and one $7 beer..$50 only gets you in the door more or less so for $100 you actually get something for it. Its all messed up you can thank americas mayor (rudy G ) and the people who moved here from elsewhere since they feel safe to do so and are willing to pay for it.
I like the people in the DR I really dig the "el caribe" vibe and the beautiful sights. I will give the DR one more try then I really need to pick someplace in South America that Ive been and build a nest. These places change like the weather so you never know what to expect just enjoy it while its good.
***last note - to the guy who got his money stolen from his pants always get ready to monger before doing so not while in the process..hide all your crap etc. this might not have helped you but it's worth mentioning you can get side tracked very easy.
For guys who's looking for a change needs to venture to other towns and find the spots where local dominicans find their *****s, the prices will be cheaper and quality would be better than Sosua, learn spanish in between trips and befriend a local taxi driver in a town other than Sosua or Boca Chica. If you have Dominican friends in your hometown, i.e. NYC or NJ, they will be your best source for info or could set you up with a local in the many towns and small cities surrounding Sosua, so you won't have to travel far. Good Luck Fellas
Great Report Loso69,
I think you pretty much touched on everything that is Sosua. It has been one year this month since my first trip to Sosua. I have been many times since and will return in February. I have seen many of the chicas in your pics and fucked only Yuni. She not really my type, but Classico was closing and I had to fuck someone that night. Tania hates me because I will not fuck her. I could tell from the time I meet her that she was hard core.
As far as not having a good time with chicas, YMMV (your milage may vary). In my exprience in the DR I have had mostly GFEs. I was suprised at the ratio of Chicas that didn't DFK. One of the things that I do differently than some of my friends is, I get dress up to go out and pic up a chica. There are still too many mongers (NYC and others) that go to the disco wearing the same clothes that they could wear to the beach or back on the block. I like to wear a nice linen shirts and pants never shorts on a night out. The women always compliment me, especially the ones that saw me earlier that day, in my shorts and T-shirt. I shower and use a nice body spray. This is important because I like to drink all day when in the DR. Before I go to the DR I stock up on my favorite gum so I don't have to look for it in Sosua. Some say why go through all that trouble when the chica will fuck you anyway. I do it because I know that these chicas know what a clean man looks like too. They have dreams of being with a decent, clean and sexy Gringo who will pay them for their time. I know if I can maker her want to fuck then my exprience will be better than if she is obligated to fuck. Sure, she will fuck the slobs also but being a slob is what contributes to some peoples poor expriences. These chicas are not mindless. If you want a good chance at a GFE then try being BF material. LOSO69 I'm not saying that this was your problem. I just mention it because I know it to be the problem of many mongers. Also Mongers should respect the culture. When in DR do as the Dominicans do (well not always but you understand). Your Tiki Barber jersey is not going to impress Chicas in the DR. So while your keeping it real and impressing all the dicks in the room, don't be surprised when your chica wants to leave early or she dosen't want to kiss you. This may not happen in Asian countries or in Brazil. I don't know. I've never been there. But the key to having fun in the DR is know how to navagate it well.
Now, I'm not crazy. When I was in Germany and Amsterdam and other monger locations around the globe. I made sure that I was always clean but I didn't get dressed up to go to a ***** house. The chicas in the DR (especially in Classico) play a strange game of "I'm not a puta". It took me a while to understand this game. When getting a Chica from a disco she wants to act like (from the moment you agree to take her for the night) the two of you are on a date. This is different from going to a ***** house, selecting a chica, fucking her brains out for 40 minutes and then leaving. Once you agree to be with a chica it is your choice of what you will do with her next. Do you go straight to the hotel? Do you Dance with her? Are you Playful? Remember most of them are young even if you are an old geezer. Do you hold her close (see, you should've used that body spray and gum like I told you)? Or do you just go to the hotel take a few pics and fuck her brains out. I'm sure she has had anyone do that to her in months. Not! Think about it your fantasy is not her fantasy but meeting her half way will increase your odds of getting what you want.
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[QUOTE=DR Monger II]I'm debating myself whether or not to go back to Sosua.
I saw a lot of ugly girls. I did see a few girls that I would have liked to have taken out. However, I was warned "the prettier they are, the more trouble they are" This statement kept me from picking any girls in Classicos.
If I do go to Sosua, I will take a trip to Crystals and see what it's like there.[/QUOTE]
Cristals is just another rip off strip joint. Overpriced drinks, overpriced putas ! Why pay a salida ? IF you must do a cristals puta, just get her cell number and call her the next day.
I never understood the TLN thing or whining and dining a ho. They are putas, pay them for their services then show them the door. Why try and make girlfriends out of them. I laugh when I see the next monger strolling around in daylight, puta in hand, strutting around like he is Magic Don Juan. The locals are laughing too, they know who the putas are. Who amoung us would be caught dead walking hand in hand with known *****s in their own country, let alone be seen dining with one ? The DR locals take these bitches to the cabana, do the deed, then take off. Last thing they want is for anyone they know to see them in the company of a puta.
Like I said, find'em, fuck'em, forget'em.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]Try the New Garden Hotel on Dr. Rosen in Sosua. A step above Europa.
About the same price but more quiet. Also check out Hotel Residential up the street from the Europa. About $50 / night. Also, Field of Dreams is about 20 mins from Sosua.[/QUOTE]I cannot find any phone number/web site in order to make a reservation at "New Garden".
Anyone can help?
This summer will make it 5 years since I have been going to DR and I will say I had my best times in the non-mongering areas of DR, and if you want to see more of DR get out of the tourist areas and learn some spanish and go to the off beaten path. I will say this like some have mentioned before on here the best thing about DR is how close it is to the US if you want to get away on a quick weekend to monger than DR is the place to go, but if I have a week to spare I will be in BRASIL where the quality and the service of the GDP'S are far more better than the serices of a DR puta. I have spent up to 2 months in DR and I had a great time but I was not in the toursit areas. I could deal with Sosua no more than 5 days thats it than I get bored and tired of the place, you will never catch me staying in a place any where related to that strip.
After spending nine winters in the DR, I have retired. This year I left four weeks early, and had a great time in three other countries. It has now become a twice a year weekend retreat for me. The constent problems with power,water, etc, etc... finally just drove me out. And if I wanted to fuck a haitian, I would go to Puerto Prince. Quite honestly you would find me selling little u.s. flags in the town square in Iraq, long before I would visit Haiti! I will not begin to fire away negative comments, I will just try to remember the good times and move on....................
All good things must come to an end.............
"the one and only"
Well, I wouldn't take any of the crystals girls for breakfast or lunch. It is more to take a girl out from Crystals for an all nighter. I heard some people having a good time in the club without taking the girls out. Strip shows and girls rubbing them. I heard that some of the girls in Crystals are trouble too (stealing and leaving early). I'm not sure. I'm a new monger to Sosua. It seems that from these reports, that there were more white or hispanic looking women before in Sosua. What happened to these women? When I went, Classico was probably 97% filled with black women (probably mostly Haitian). They didn't just dissapear did they?
I also heard some bad things about this club called "Velvet Rope" I never went in this place. I heard that a gorgeous looking girl offers to massage you, but when you get in the room, its a fat woman massaging you :(
I never encountered water problems or electricity problems. The hotel I stayed in had a generator, but the power did go off. I know this because the tv went off and the alarm clock had to be reset :(
Do these girls associate Europa with Newbies? If someone had stayed in Residential or some other hotel would they be better off? The security there probably wouldn't be that great. Europa has a armed security guard and security cameras. I'm not sure if other hotels would help you if you had problems with chicas there (police).
Would I run into these problems in Brazil? I have a week off, but haven't research Brazil too much. I don't speak portugese. The plane fare to Brazil is also about 1000 bucks.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]I'm debating myself whether or not to go back to Sosua. I did a lot of regular tourist trips and some of those trips aren't to be missed. Acitivity trips in Sosua are cheap compared to other places. I full day of horseback riding is like 35 dollars.
I was warned about these hard core girls in Sosua. "These girls steal. Some of these girls carry knives. Others tell lies and leave early. Some of them have a small time police boyfriend and ask for more money." Some of these statements have been confirmed in this message board and other boards on the internet. I received a warning from my hotel personnel and from expats who lived there. I met one guy who lived their 15+ years and said that he would see any of those classico disco gals. I ventured out to classicos and D'latinos to see what it was like. I saw a lot of ugly girls. It was also dark. I also saw a lot of mongers there. However. there are way more girls than guys there. I did see a few girls that I would have liked to have taken out. However, I was warned "the prettier they are, the more trouble they are" This statement kept me from picking any girls in Classicos.
I read a lot of advice on here. Some of you suggest not to pick up street rats. But let me ask you this, all of the girls in Sosua are street rats. Okay I know some of them are nice. I've seen some mongers in Sosua and they seem to be having a good time. However, there is no way for some newbie like me without fluent spanish speaking abilities to probably pick up a descent chick. Or are some of these hardcore chica stories exagerated?[\QUOTE]Part of me thinks I don't want to venture into Sosua with the current flaming of the place going. Knives, thief’s, policia, fuglies, threats, etc. , gosh sounds like the place for me. I could just drive to the Southside of Chicago and save on the airfare (no offense intended to residents there).
On the other hand, let's scare everyone off, less punters around, more chicas getting hungry and supply and demand will take over. Cheap poontang may be restored.
As to the part about why treat he chicas like girlfriends, I look at it as this is the true meaning of YMMV. These girls understand what is going on. If you were in their shoes would you rather s*ck and f*ck a guy who treats you well and smells good, or one that treats you like a traditional *****?
I find here as well as other stomping grounds I go to that if you treat them like a lady they start acting like one. When I am in Montreal I shave and shower beforehand, and then spend the first 20 minutes of my hour session talking to them, maybe have a glass of wine, and once repore is there, go do the deed. Maybe I only get one shot on goal this way, but it tends to be a GOOD shot. I will take one good shot over 2 crappy shots anytime.
With the girls here, I have no problem acting like it's a date. I am not talking about letting them take advantage of you, but taking them to dinner on TLN (or the like) is simply foreplay. When I was 16 I believed in the 4F's exclusively (Find 'em, Feel 'em, F*ck 'em, Forget "em) and I still do it at times. But I do find a much higher quality of service when I "date" them first.
As far as holding hands walking down the street, that is not my thing, but I do understand it. I am in no way embarrassed to be seen with a puta down there. Heck that is what I came here for. The only people I will run into are either fellow mongers or locals. Who cares who sees me and what they think? I am not looking to do it in my hometown, but that is why I travel a couple thousand miles to be here. The girls see that you are not embarrassed to be seen with them, and then some of them strut around, and service CAN, not WILL, but can improve. If I wanted a piece of meat to lay there as a lifeless f*ck, I could save a few hundred dollars and buy a blow up doll w/a flashlight vagina-vibrator built in and get similar results.
My 2 cents.
Crossfire,
I don’t even wear shorts during the daytime. I dress casually (jeans and polo shirt), but change my clothes a couple of times a day. Smelling nice is important. Every Dominicana I was with “smelt” me.
I never took the girl straight home after I made a deal with her. Sometimes, money wasn’t even mentioned. I just danced with the girl until the disco closed, then took her home. I sometimes had a better time in the disco than in my room. The chicas are fun in the disco, but only have money on their mind once they get to your hotel.
So far, I’ve visited 3 Spanish-speaking countries (Colombia, Cuba & the DR) and found the chicas way too business-like. Spanish-speaking putas are cold-hearted snakes!
Don’t bother with Spanish... learn Portuguese!
Loso
[QUOTE=Guthrie]
From my past experiences this hotel, The Europa, is know to the chicas as to where the newbies start out. They know they can pull their shit there and it seems that the cops are involved. The owner though is very helpful and I do
not believe he benefits from this in any way.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure, for I had an experience once where I was going to be shaken down by a haitian puta named Sara in Sosua in 2004, she pissed me off one night so I bundled up her clothes and left them at the desk and told the woman at night that she is not to bother me anymore. Bottom line she was banging at my door and threatening to kill me etc... I came out to confront her, she came at me with a shank, for which i knocked out her hand, soon then the police came, the fucking asshole chulo from the Flamingo got involved and wanted to embezzle his take from me. At that time and older guy from Europe that lived down there arrived on the scene and talked to the cops on my behalf, bottom line $20 to the cops, and the night ended.
Well after about four hours later she was back again screaming at the door, this time I went to the front desk and made the clerk call the Euro that owned the place, I did get him to move me to an upper floor, when I was moving upstairs, I discovered three more pairs of chicas pants, and three blouses, for which later I gave to the bartenders at the roses bar, in return one of them came up and gave me A BBBJ and rimjob, that ranks in my alltime top # 5, torrid. I then confronted the owner of the Flamingo about what happened. The next day, Sara the puta was told by the owner not to return- she was fired, and the chulo was also fired.
In hindsight, yes the Europa is newbie ground zero, be warned and be aware. It was fucking nice to come out only $ 20, plus 3-4 beers the next day to the cop I paid off, to get back at the Puta.....I think by not caving in except for the $20, and thanks to the older euro, I may have been lucky, I do think that the owner at the Europa is ok, but not sure about the desk clerks.
[QUOTE=Sylvester]Cristals is just another rip off strip joint. Overpriced drinks, overpriced putas ! Why pay a salida ? IF you must do a cristals puta, just get her cell number and call her the next day.
I never understood the TLN thing or whining and dining a ho. They are putas, pay them for their services then show them the door. Why try and make girlfriends out of them. I laugh when I see the next monger strolling around in daylight, puta in hand, strutting around like he is Magic Don Juan. The locals are laughing too, they know who the putas are. Who amoung us would be caught dead walking hand in hand with known *****s in their own country, let alone be seen dining with one ? The DR locals take these bitches to the cabana, do the deed, then take off. Last thing they want is for anyone they know to see them in the company of a puta.
Like I said, find'em, fuck'em, forget'em.[/QUOTE]I never understood why people go to the DR for a week and spend 4 or 5 nights with the same chica, but I never made a judgmental post about it. Because I'm wise enough to know that even though I know they are missing out on all the flavors of the DR, I know that they are having a blast in a way that only they can appreciate. The same goes for the guy that does TLN. I do this often. I like to fuck a chica more than once and I like to have some rest in between session. I'm not superman you know. Fucking 2 chicas a day takes its toll on the nuts. But not only that, I simply enjoy the chicas too. Come day light my chicas are gone. The chicas I tend to fuck in the day time are usually short time because I don't want them around to stop me from getting the second chica later that night. But in Defense of the novia lovin' guy who wants to spend 5 days with a chica, I'll say this: Who cares what some broke ass Dominicono thinks about what we are doing if they see us walking day or night with a puta. You don't think they see us at night. You don't think they know why you are in that shitty town of Sosua in the fist place. I know. I know. Your there just for the scuba diving, right;). The point is people go there to escape reality. The fact that I get to fuck 2 chicas a day is not my reality and I enjoy it while I'm there. What we would or wouldn't do in the DR as opposed to the our home country is irrelevant. If that were the case many of us would not feel comfortable being seen by anyone, night or day with known putas. I can say that I don't wine and dine putas but I like a little company with my sex. But I will say--the day I start to worry about what the dominiconos think about what I'm doing in Sosua, that is the day that I should stay home.
There is nothing wrong with your moto of "find'em, fuck'em, forget'em." You have make it do what it do. Ok in english---Do what is best for you. You don't have to understand the others as long as they are happy.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Crossfire,
I don’t even wear shorts during the daytime. I dress casually (jeans and polo shirt), but change my clothes a couple of times a day. Smelling nice is important. Every Dominicana I was with “smelt” me.
I never took the girl straight home after I made a deal with her. Sometimes, money wasn’t even mentioned. I just danced with the girl until the disco closed, then took her home. I sometimes had a better time in the disco than in my room. The chicas are fun in the disco, but only have money on their mind once they get to your hotel.
So far, I’ve visited 3 Spanish-speaking countries (Colombia, Cuba & the DR) and found the chicas way too business-like. Spanish-speaking putas are cold-hearted snakes!
Don’t bother with Spanish... learn Portuguese!
Loso[/QUOTE]Loso again great report. I didn't mean to suggest that any of things mentioned in my post were a part of your problem in the DR. I just used it to illustrate the problem of many other mongers. I'm always wondering why it is that I see so many people complaining about the DR, when I'm have such a great time there. Sure everyone has a bad expierence or two. But it just makes me wonder what people are looking for. Again I've never been to asia or Brazil and probably will not have the chance to go. But I have been Curacao and ST Maarten and many places in Europe. So I have had many Phillipinos, Thia, Korean, Indoneasian, Columbian etc.... and for me, going in to the ***** house jumping up and down on a chica who just wipe herself off from the monger before me, and then having her put me out so fast that, I have an imprint of the door knob on my ass, is not appealing to me. I don't care how beautiful the chica is. If that is all I have to resort to then sure I'd do it again. But I don't have to because there is the DR. Don't get me wrong, I'm smart enough to know that the chica I just pull from classico may have been with someone else earlier that day. But at less the choca has had some time to air out.
So I'm wondering what I am I missing in these other monger location that makes people complain about the DR so much. Because if these other monger destination have nicer, prettier ladies that are on the revolving door system, Then I'll have to say "No thanks! My ass still hurts from the last door knob." That's just my personal view. Do what's best for you.
I've stayed in Europa and I have never been robbed or hustled. It is not the hotel, it is the girl. One of my observations on my last trip was how many guys were taking back some really hardcore gangsta chicas. They are not difficult to spot, the look hard and I would not let any of them near my hotel room or me. For me, leaving early or performance is rarely an issue. The problem I had the last trip was how difficult it was to find a chica worth taking back. I like to party, flirt with a bunch of different chicas before making my selection as oppose to being press into making a selection before the few cute ones come of the market. Not to mention, since the highest I will pay is well below what most guys are paying, makes my job much more difficult. The partying is fun but the mongering has become more of a hassle than it need to be because of quantity of mongers and quality of the putas.
[QUOTE=Bysa003]I cannot find any phone number/web site in order to make a reservation at "New Garden".
Anyone can help?[/QUOTE]Here ya go.
[url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Bysa003]I cannot find any phone number/web site in order to make a reservation at "New Garden".
Anyone can help?[/QUOTE]Try this link
[url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm[/url]
Ponderosa, as for your gfe experience. Taking a girl out to a restaurant would only work if you knew spanish and can communicate with her. I can't speak spanish, although I'm learning, it would take me awhile to get it. It would be really awkward for someone like me to be eating at a restaurant with a puta and not talking to her. Some of them can speak a little English like "Buy me a drink"
I didn't monger too much, but when I did, I didn't smell. I took a shower before heading out. I wear clean clothes. I didn't wear a suit. I use listerine. I'm also a lot younger than a lot of the mongers I've seen. I'm not in my 40's or 50's. I lift weights for 2 hours 2 times a week. I can pass for someone in my 20s. I believe I took a shower with the girl I took out. I even told one to doche and I did so afterwards myself. Would my mongering experience have been better if I dressed in dress pants, dress shoes and a good shirt like I'm going to work in a business office setting? When I was at Classicos or D'latinos, I hardly saw anyone wearing dress pants with their shirts tucked in. Everyone dressed relaxed.
BTW, the woman I had trouble with wasn't Haitian. She was a Blanca chica with blonde hair. She wanted me to go back to the bar with her and talk to the manager. No way was I going to go that. I later found out that the Salida for that place was 1000 to take her out. She never mentioned this in the first place. So I think she only got 1000 for that 1 hour encounter. I still got ripped off though.
Anyone have any experiences at "Velvet Rope" It's not in the main area near Classicos. It's toward the left of Europa, a little before Passions Massage.
I went to Passions a lot. However, some days I wasn't into it and left without a massage.
This is the same problem I have in DR, in Brasil it's the other way around deciding on who I want to smash is so difficult since the quality is 10x better and there is never a shortage of stunners in Rio. Im only going to do DR now just business wise and relaxing,my hard-core mongering days are over in that country trying to smash 3 chicas per day I'll save that for Rio.
[QUOTE=Lazy Monger]The problem I had the last trip was how difficult it was to find a chica worth taking back. I like to party, flirt with a bunch of different chicas before making my selection as oppose to being press into making a selection before the few cute ones come of the market. Not to mention, since the highest I will pay is well below what most guys are paying, makes my job much more difficult. The partying is fun but the mongering has become more of a hassle than it need to be because of quantity of mongers and quality of the putas.[/QUOTE]
Crossfire1,
[QUOTE]I've never been to Asia or Brazil[/QUOTE]
If you had experienced the world’s best P4P spots, you might be complaining about the DR as well. But compared to US women, the Dominicanas are probably wonderful.
DR Monger II,
I fucked a short-haired blonde from SeaCret’s. I met her in the afternoon, before the bar opened, and didn’t have to pay a salida. I’ve attached a picture of her. Same girl?
The Velvet Glove is an upscale, expensive massage parlor that opened its doors while I was in Sosúa. I never visited, but I did take a picture of it.
Papa Nyc,
The lack of quality explains why I only fucked 17 girls in 14 days in Sosúa. As a comparison, I had 54 different girls in 21 days during my last trip to Rio.
Loso
Loso,
I failed to mention that your photography has got to be some of the best that I've seen on any board. Your lighting is techincally correct and I can tell that you have posed the chica to bring out thier best. You diffenately are note using the standard digital camera from Circuit City. Some pointer on your photo technics would be appreciated. On a different note- I guess I'm glad that I have not been to these other places because compared to most places I'm happy with what I have in the DR. No need to get spoiled by going to Brazil once when I can go the DR 6 or 7 times a year. I can tell that the quality of chicas was low seeing that you took the chica with the short blonde hair. Don't get me wrong she cute but I have passed on her on about 7 trips. I thought about doing her but have always managed to find someone better. When I first met her she used to work at the bar Across the street from Dominos and the Four Roses Bar. I also remember she was between jobs. She used to walk the street all day looking for a gringo. The bar was closed last time I was there. I think it was called Plaza Algeria or something like that. Anyway Great picture of her.
As far as dressing nice to go out--I never mentioned tucking you shirt in. I said a linen shirt. What kind of an idiot would tuck in a linen shirt. Suits who mention wearing a suit on this board. Dress shoes? Who mentioned that? People-- some of you have no style. You can be totally relaxed and have style with your shirt tail hanging out (I think somebody's age is showing). I happen to be in my 30's and I work out and I'm slim and I have style. Some poeple have only 2 modes. On and off. Up and Down. Jean and Suits. There is something in between all of that. Nobody should take it personal if I give advice. I call it like I see it. Just read the post and if there is something that you can gain from it take a little advice and move on. If not keep on doing what you do.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Crossfire1,
If you had experienced the world’s best P4P spots, you might be complaining about the DR as well. But compared to US women, the Dominicanas are probably wonderful.[/QUOTE]If you noticed I've been everywhere else in the world. So I'd say that compared to most women in the world, the Dominicanas are wonderful. To me that is saying a lot. I'm not spoiled. Some of the worlds best is good enough for me.
I assume people have stayed here before since its being mentioned. Any reports of overcharging your credit card breaking into room safes etc ? Im looking into it for a possible back up in case I dont find affordable lodging in SD.
Thank you in advance.
By the way the guy said no problem bringing back chicas at no charge.
Artisttyp
** Will I be hearing any motoconcho noise? It says it is located in the central part of the town. I know how bad motoconchos can get.
I just thought that I would add a few pic. I usually post on a different board so some of you may have seen these. I'm happy with the DR. I'm not spoiled with my ugly chicas. I know they are the bottom of the barrel but I enjoy them. I understand that beauty is subjective. Like I said I've been around the world. But not everywhere So I'm not saying that the Dominicana is the most beautiful in the world. But we all know that the situation is still better than in our home countries. Since I have been around the world I will not go back to Germany, England, The Netherlands, Curacao, St Maarten, etc and then complain on the internet that they are not as good as in the DR. If you've got a good thing (in Brazil or Asia) and you are spoiled then stick to that country(s). But If you are spoilded and chicas such as these are not good enough for you then you should not come to the DR. And if you do then, stop bitchin'.
PS Loso can you give me some photography pointers
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I assume people have stayed here before since its being mentioned. Any reports of overcharging your credit card breaking into room safes etc ? Im looking into it for a possible back up in case I dont find affordable lodging in SD.
Thank you in advance.
By the way the guy said no problem bringing back chicas at no charge.
Artisttyp
** Will I be hearing any motoconcho noise? It says it is located in the central part of the town. I know how bad motoconchos can get.[/QUOTE]
No problem with breaking in or overcharging. Look for the owner, Lorenzo. They have an armed guard from 6pm to 6am. The hotel borders the baseball field across from Casa Marina Resort. A lot less noisy than The Europa which is right on Pedro Clisante.
There is less foot traffic which means less business for motos.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]No problem with breaking in or overcharging. Look for the owner, Lorenzo. They have an armed guard from 6pm to 6am. The hotel borders the baseball field across from Casa Marina Resort. A lot less noisy than The Europa which is right on Pedro Clisante.There is less foot traffic which means less business for motos.[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. I had no problems when I was there is October.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Crossfire,
I don’t even wear shorts during the daytime. I dress casually (jeans and polo shirt), but change my clothes a couple of times a day. Smelling nice is important. Every Dominicana I was with “smelt” me.
I never took the girl straight home after I made a deal with her. Sometimes, money wasn’t even mentioned. I just danced with the girl until the disco closed, then took her home. I sometimes had a better time in the disco than in my room. The chicas are fun in the disco, but only have money on their mind once they get to your hotel.
So far, I’ve visited 3 Spanish-speaking countries (Colombia, Cuba & the DR) and found the chicas way too business-like. Spanish-speaking putas are cold-hearted snakes!
Don’t bother with Spanish... learn Portuguese!
Loso[/QUOTE]So far, I’ve visited 3 Spanish-speaking countries (Colombia, Cuba & the DR) and found the chicas way too business-like. Spanish-speaking putas are cold-hearted snakes!
Your report was accurate for a quick trip no experience non spanish speaking person. Dr, colombia, honduras, panamana, peru can not compete with brazil o aisa on the number of pros. The days are over when you can arrive and say " I'm american" "do me for nothing ". Asia is changing also.
Let the NYC Altanta guys have sousa. To each his own.
You will never experience the real DR girl that will cling to you so tight all night that you have to pry her away. Colombia. Its a great country. Again you will never experience that. You do not have the skills or language to experience latain american countries. Your report was accurate for a person like you with your skills and experience. Your post was accurate.
The last thing " Young Mongeres". When I was 20, 30 I never paid. Yet I see all these young guys in every country I visit looking for pros. I pay less and have many non-pro friends. OK. Every girl is a pro in one way or another. Should someone take advice from a "young guy" to score the same girl a "old guy" can get.
When your the young cool. Guy in the club hitting on the most beautiful girl there. Watch out. I'm the old guy that might leave you there there holding you d***.
[QUOTE=James Zz]...You will never experience the real DR girl that will cling to you so tight all night that you have to pry her away. Colombia. Its a great country. Again you will never experience that. You do not have the skills or language to experience latain american countries. Your report was accurate for a person like you with your skills and experience. Your post was accurate.
[/QUOTE]Agreed!
[b]80% of the guys that come to the DR shouldn't be there![/b] They should be in Brazil or the Phillipines where the sex industry is much more transparent to Americans.
For me, the DR is perfect. I even cancelled a free flight to Rio last fall, so I could return to the DR. Rio is beautiful, and I'm glad I did and saw everything the country has to offer (unfortunately, the DR doesn't have Swing Clubs), but I don't speak Portuguese and I can find pretty Dominicanas, who are younger and take it in the ass like a Brazilian. I fuck these Dominicanas throats, slap them around with my dick, dress them-up in role-play sessions, chain them to the bed, video tape them when they suck my dick and I do it for a fraction of the price I would have to pay in the Brazil.
After you have acclimated yourself to the culture, the language, and the people of the town (Boca Chica), you'll enjoy the freakiest sex you've ever had with some the youngest, prettiest girls you've ever met.
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=James Zz]When your the young cool. Guy in the club hitting on the most beautiful girl there. Watch out. I'm the old guy that might leave you there there holding you d***.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure of what your definition of a young guy is (I'm in my 30's) but, I would never presume that anyone could leave any guy (young or old), holding his dick in the DR. You see--there are too many fish in the sea. The chica that one man gets is never a problem to me. The DR is not the US. My friend and I never have and never will go home holding our dicks. I think I speak for most people young and old who have some wits about them. It's the DR. Everyone should go home happy. I say again, the advice I gave earlier is for those who are having problems. If your system is working. Then obviously I'm not talking to you. Keep on doing what's best for you. If your advice differs from mine, then you can give it and move on. You don't have to reference my advice. Just give yours. If you are having difficulty where you should be hitting a home run every time you are at bat, then take some advice. My advice is not for everyone. But do something different aside from Bitchin. There more pussy out there than most of us could get in our home countries. This is why we travel. After a few trips we become guru, and travel snobs. Now nothing is good enough. Some return to their home countries where getting laid for them is as rare as an apperance from Hailey's Comet. Lightin up and have fun. Do your research before you travel. Read the fuckin forum. If Rio is the Best Place in the world, then save your Pounds, Euros, or Dollars and go there once or twice a year. Otherwise stop bitchin'.
Loso, no she was a different girl than that pic.
Crossfire, did you find these girls at Classico (Jessica, Ani, Hiedy?) I know the Sex devil girls are from Passions. Okay, most of the girls at Passions are pretty. I would say that most girls at Classicos or Dlatino don't match that level of hotness in your pictures. If you saw 100 Classico girls, maybe 5 of them would match your pics. I saw a few that were hotter than your pics.
Are you guys saying that spanish and technique is the prerequisite in having a girl friend like experience in DR?
Are there any differences in sexual experiences in the aggressive girls that approach you in Classico and the ones that don't approach you, but you have to approach them?
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Are you guys saying that spanish and technique is the prerequisite in having a girl friend like experience in DR?[/QUOTE][b]YES...[/b]
that and you have to know what you're hunting and what you're strengths and weaknessess are. If you want to hunt tigers (a 25 year-old, Classico, DD, size-3 hottie, w/ a Razr and designer clothes) with a sling-shot, be my guest. Nevertheless, you're going to get ripped to shreds! Personally, I'm very happy hunting gazelles with my shotgun. In a few years my prey may change and my weaponary may improve. Nevertheless, I enjoy the hunt now.
[size=1]excerpt from another site...[/size][quote]Go where you can speak the language. If you can't speak the language then go to Rio. It's perfect for guys who only speak English. Rio is like Disney World for sex tourists; almost everything can be had at a price. Although Rio has the "soul" of a Disney World (compared to Havana or the Dominican Republic), there are more professionals and places in Rio that can offer quality service. [/quote][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546122&postcount=940[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=523702&postcount=910[/url]
-Helpmann ;)
Crossfire1,
Some of your girls are really hot (especially Jessica & Hiedy). If I’d seen them around, I definitely would have pounced on them. But girls like those are few and far between in Sosúa.
For almost a decade, I mongered exclusively in SE Asia. For the last couple of years, I’ve been branching out. These days, I love the thrill of novelty. Feeling like a newbie again, as I discover the scene in a new destination. I don’t regret visiting Sosúa. But my experiences weren’t good enough to warrant a return visit.
Your pictures are fine, considering the equipment you use (Nikon S1). Top quality pics require a digital SLR camera and a separate flash, which you bounce off the ceiling or wall. But they’re expensive, bulky and inconvenient and only worth investing in if you’re serious about photography.
Non-equipment related advice I can give you:
- Take a lot of pics. The more pictures you take, the better chance you’ll get a few great shots.
- Make the girl feel like she’s a model and you’re a photographer. All pretty girls are wannabe models...
- Show the girls their pictures on TV. They love that! And it encourages them to take more pics.
- If you’re traveling with a laptop, tell the girl you’ll burn her a CD with the pictures. Or print the pictures and give them to her. When her friends see how great you made her look, they’ll all wanna fuck you!
Jameszz,
Who said I didn’t speak Spanish? I may not speak it fluently, but my Spanish is good enough to be able to communicate with the chicas. And I’m no gringo either; I’m from Belgium.
Am I in tune with Latin culture? Probably not. But I recently spent a month in China, where I couldn’t communicate with the girls at all. Yet the Changping girls provided a better GFE than the Dominicanas.
DR Monger II,
The ugly girls have to be more aggressive to get noticed. In Sosúa, like everywhere else in the world, you’ll have to make the first move to get the hot girls. Act confident and don’t be shy.
Loso
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Are you guys saying that spanish and technique is the prerequisite in having a girl friend like experience in DR?[/QUOTE]YES, YES, and double YES!
If you guys focus on studying spanish one hour a day between your trips to the DR you will be ready in no time to travel outside of Sosua and befriend locals who will show you some of the hottest chicas the country has to offer and get this, at DOMINICAN PRICES!! You don't need fluency, just a basic understanding and you will build on that with time and frequent travel. Every town in the DR have pros & semi-pros trolling the discos and carwashes. You guys need to start networking, but if you are only there to monger on one or two visits then don't bother, but if you frequent this beloved country, then YES, networking is a must and will open doors to towns and cities within an armthrow of Sosua. I never mongered in Sosua, but if I wanted to, I would speak to my contacts first and set something nice by a semi-pro(non street walker). Even the local barrio motoconchisto whos broke screws some of the nicest chicas in the country.
I trully believe that Sosua may be a little more dangerous for tourists, because all the hardest cueras and tigres flock to Sosua, like sharks flocking to fish.
Great point on DR vs Brasil, I love the DR but there is no comparison to Rio. You can do Rio real cheap to get quality garotas and Im not talking about VM, I ventured out there during my trip and I had a great time I speak spanish so I understand a little Portugese. Helpmann I was hitting alot os spots that have not been mentioned on here, there is more to Rio than Copacabana. I love the DR but I wil save my hard-core mongering for Brasil, Im very picky when I go there I have been all over that place from Samana, Cabbera, Nagua, Rio SanJuan, Gasper Hernandez, Sosua, Puerto, Santiago,Moca, La Vega, San Franciso, Jarabacoa, Santo Domingo,Boca Chica, San Perdro De Macoris...etc... and my best times in DR where in the non-tourist areas, when I go back to DR now this is where I will be from now on it is where I started and I will visit the toursit areas less now.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Agreed!
[b]80% of the guys that come to the DR shouldn't be there![/b] They should be in Brazil or the Phillipines where the sex industry is much more transparent to Americans.
For me, the DR is perfect. I even cancelled a free flight to Rio last fall, so I could return to the DR. Rio is beautiful, and I'm glad I did and saw everything the country has to offer (unfortunately, the DR doesn't have Swing Clubs), but I don't speak Portuguese and I can find pretty Dominicanas, who are younger and take it in the ass like a Brazilian. I fuck these Dominicanas throats, slap them around with my dick, dress them-up in role-play sessions, chain them to the bed, video tape them when they suck my dick and I do it for a fraction of the price I would have to pay in the Brazil.
After you have acclimated yourself to the culture, the language, and the people of the town (Boca Chica), you'll enjoy the freakiest sex you've ever had with some the youngest, prettiest girls you've ever met.
Cheers!
Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]there is more to Rio than Copacabana. [/QUOTE]Absolutely, and there is more to Brazil than Rio. Normally, when I refer "Brazil," I do mean Rio; however, the country must have so much too offer. Jesus, if it were cheap and convenient to travel to Brazil and I spoke Portuguese, I would be in the campo tearing-up some shit.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Are you guys saying that spanish and technique is the prerequisite in having a girl friend like experience in DR?[/QUOTE]
100% agree with Helpmann! Being able to communicate in her language is a HUGE plus in getting a quality monger experience. That plus technique means you are giving her a BFE! If you have chosen well, she will reciprocate with a fantastic GFE!
Loso,
Thanks for the photo tips. I knew you were the one to ask. I know quality photos when I see them and yours are the best I've seen by any monger hands down. You even show your tech knowledge by magicly know the exact make and model carema that I use. You'll have to teach me to do that trick. I love the S-1. Infact on a trip to the DR I lost my camera. The S-6 was new in store and I still bought the S-1 because it is smaller. The idea of burning a CD for the chica is brilliant. I'll use that one. and to show my thanks to you for unlocking some of your knowledge I have unlocked a few additional photos of my own.
DR Monger,
Jessica, and Ani(her real name is Alta Gracia) can befound at classico almost every weekend. I've always seen them on every trip I've been on. Heidy is a Puerto Plata girl. She is an illustration of the quality that is out there but not of your typical GFE. I had to brake her down she was some what hard core. This girl is fluent in english, so that tells you something right there.
[QUOTE=Loso69]Your pictures are fine, considering the equipment you use (Nikon S1). Top quality pics require a digital SLR camera and a separate flash, which you bounce off the ceiling or wall. But they’re expensive, bulky and inconvenient and only worth investing in if you’re serious about photography.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the photo tips. I generally take bikini shots at the beach at sunset.
-Helpmann :)
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Those are some excellent pics, Crossfire. You found some nice looking girls there.
Question about La Passion: Can anyone tell me if the girls there provide CIM standard? Or is that a negotiated service? And what about AR?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Long Stroker]Those are some excellent pics, Crossfire. You found some nice looking girls there.
Question about La Passion: Can anyone tell me if the girls there provide CIM standard? Or is that a negotiated service? And what about AR?
Thanks[/QUOTE]It is standard.
[QUOTE]You even show your tech knowledge by magicly know the exact make and model carema that I use. You'll have to teach me to do that trick.[/QUOTE]
Pictures from digital cameras contain metadata.
Right-click on a picture and select Properties. Click on the Summary tab and, if necessary, click on "Adanced > >".
I can even tell when you fucked each and every one of your girls! :)
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Pictures from digital cameras contain metadata.
Right-click on a picture and select Properties. Click on the Summary tab and, if necessary, click on "Adanced > >".
I can even tell when you fucked each and every one of your girls! :)
Loso[/QUOTE]Wow, talk about TMI (Too much in formation). Thanks for the tip though. Nice to chat with a real photo pro. I used to have an SLR Camera, and you are right they are to bulky. It's not digital. So it sits on in my closet collecting dust. I know they have digital ones, but like you said I'm not that serious about photography.
Crossfire1:
In case nobody tells you, thank you, thank you, for sharing some of those stunning pictures. I think I am in lust with Jessica and the girl on the left in "Titas Grande"!
One question, in my quest for knowledge, what other board do you post on?
I travel a lot to South America and soon will have the DR in my patch. A lot of the Caribbean has been very, very disappointing so I have high hopes I can find a "home" in the DR.
Suerte
Polvo
Crossfire1,
I'm new to the boards and I have one question: Where does Titas Grande and Suli1 party @ in Sousa?
Thanks great pic's Man
Beaches= 9--2 (super beaches vs long trips to Punta Del Este or Pinnamar).
Dining=5--10 (found 2 more excellent restaurants but BA is the best).
Service=3--10 (Sosua service can't compare to BA waiters)
Chica bodies, good asses= 8--6 (Sosua bodies great and one of the good ass capitals of the world)
Faces-8--6 (much higher % of stunners)
Chica service=6--8(BA better)
Chica prices=8--6 ($25 to $50 and cheap TLN's)
Free porn tv and chicas like it=8--2,
Sports bars=9--2 (all games! Eddy's much better than Alamo)
Hangouts=8--6 (many better places than Exedra like beach bars, Rocky's, Pedro Clisante street)
USA TV=8--3 (USA programs, sports, CNBC)
Places like Exedra 8--5 (better places and all chicas are circulating, not sitting on their big asses)
Sex available discos=9--5 (cruising the discos and you see countless doable chicas)
Internet=8--6 (many wi-fi)
Weather =9--6 (perfect year around)
Small area vs large=9-5
Pollution= 3--8 (Sousa none and BA huge)
Cheap rooms= 8--5
Motos, buses, and taxis= 6-9 (motos annoying but nothing compared to BA)
Cosmopolitan 7--9 (very high % from Canada, Britain, France, Spain, Italy. No culture in sosua)
Compact= 10--5
English spoken=6--2
Inflation 4--9 (AR mucho)
Air fare and convenience to USA= 8-3
Real massage ($15 vs $10) and BBBJ massage $16 vs $30-40)
Professional sports= 3-- (baseball vs soccer, polo, tennis, basketball, volleyball).
[QUOTE=Polvo]Crossfire1:
In case nobody tells you, thank you, thank you, for sharing some of those stunning pictures. I think I am in lust with Jessica and the girl on the left in "Titas Grande"!
Polvo[/QUOTE]Mucho Gracias Povo! :) This brings up a great point. Chicas like the girl in that picture are a Dime a dozen on even the worst night at Classico. This is the truth I tell you. One problem that I had to even shake myself form was being too picky. When you go to DR and Probably other places your standards will rise very very high. I found myself on the bad nights at the disco thinking there is nothing in here. But there were plenty of Chicas like Titas Grande and Jessica walking about. That's when I think about that plane right home. And I think about how I would act if some of these same chicas were back home? How enthusastic would I be to fuck these chicas back home? If the answer is -- I'd act like a kid in candy store and hell yeah I'd fuck that chica, then I know I'm going home happy.
I remember seeing Jessica on several trips and passing on her. she is very petite and can get lost in the crowd. I want to find model types also but ultimately I think I just wanna fuck sexy chicas that are to the standard that I have right now. So If you wanna see a room full of porn star, or playboy magazine model looking chicas you will not find them in one location in the DR. But they are there throught the country.
I've seen better chicas than the ones in my photos also. I had better ones also. But there is no way I'm every going home complaining when chicas like these are a dime a dozen. So for those of you have never gone to DR, this is what you can expect on a daily basis. If you live in a big city, then just think about that hot 18-25 latina chica that you saw walking through the mall or on the train. You can find her equal in the DR. Just look through the uglies. Yes they are there too. Let's be real.
Papa Benito,
Thanks for that comparison. I’m considering a side trip to BA on my next trip to Brazil, but haven’t done any research on BA as yet.
One thing really surprised me:
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]
Faces-8--6 (much higher % of stunners)
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I didn’t think there were that many pretty faces in Sosúa and if BA is worse...
Also
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]
Chica bodies, good asses= 8--6 (Sosua bodies great and one of the good ass capitals of the world)
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I suppose you have a preference for big booty. I prefer them really skinny.
Loso
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]
Real massage ($15 vs $10) and BBBJ massage $16 vs $30-40)
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Papa Benito,
You are saying BBBJ massage in Sousa for $16, is that correct? Currently La Passion is advertising $1,000 per session which is about $32 US. Do you know of a place where it is only $16?
Hey Guys,
I've been ausente from the board for a bit but I'm enjoying the discussion. The gist of the conversation seems to be "all right so I've done Sosua and its got its pluses and minuses - what other places should I consider for my next trip?" Brazil?
Helpmann and George90 are both sharp guys and I've enjoyed their contributions in the past. Being able to communicate with the girls is an enormous ventaja (advantage) and it can easily turn an average vacation into gfe paradise! I have never been to Brazil because I don't speak Portugués but I am fluent in Spanish - and I feel I've evolved beyond the level of waving to a girl, pointing to the bulge in my pants and grunting. (lol) :D A successful trip to me means that I'll be able to communicate.
In my recent trip to Medellin I was amazed at how many "hobbyists" down there think that they are guaranteed a gfe merely as a birth right. "I'm Americano so Colombian women will love me" without a second thought to being able to have a conversation with her in her native language!
Learn Spanish it will pay dividends in the long run! :)
Of course once you've learned Spanish then you're equiped to tackle Colombia and Venezuela. Both are beautiful countries with hordes of gorgeous women, plus they are both a good bit closer than the shores of Sao Paolo and Rio. Caracas and Medellin should be your first journey to SA.
Crossfire - great pics my friend! Very cute girls and yes the two girls pictures in the photo "Titas Grande" do have tetas grandes! ;)
FORD
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Mucho Gracias Povo! :) This brings up a great point. Chicas like the girl in that picture are a Dime a dozen on even the worst night at Classico. .......So If you wanna see a room full of porn star, or playboy magazine model looking chicas you will not find them in one location in the DR. But they are there throught the country. .......So for those of you have never gone to DR, this is what you can expect on a daily basis..[/QUOTE]
Crossfire1:
Would you be kind enough to put the top four cities in order for the DR (for the hobby!) e.g. Sousa, SD, PP etc?
Thanks!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Wow, talk about TMI (Too much in formation). [/QUOTE]
I agree that in some cases, metadata can definitely be TMI. There is software available that can strip out that data leaving you with a clean image to post.
I believe IrfanView has an option to exclude EXIF data when saving files after resizing.
You definitely don't want to leave your dick hanging too far out there.
The top four cities in the DR for the hobby. (IMHO)
1. Santo Domingo
2. Santo Domingo
3. Santo Domingo
4. Sosua, Puerto Plata, Santiago (3 way tie) :D
[QUOTE=Ford]....... Being able to communicate with the girls is an enormous ventaja (advantage) and it can easily turn an average vacation into gfe paradise! I have never been to Brazil because I don't speak Portugués but I am fluent in Spanish....[/QUOTE]
Ford:
I do a lot of travelling throughout the region and you are 100% correct. Communication is key - and if the chica does not speak your language, you better speak hers. It improves the whole situation enormously - because even if she is a ten it gets just boring if you can't communicate.
On the Portuguese issue, I have found that the Portuguese speaker can actually understand Spanish quite well but not always vice versa. However, you will always manage if you speak Spanish. Don't let that be a hinderance to visiting Brazil! Brazil is Disneyland for sex. VZ, Colombia, Peru are heaven! (Haven't been to DR yet!)
Suerte!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Ford]In my recent trip to Medellin I was amazed at how many "hobbyists" down there think that they are guaranteed a gfe merely as a birth right. "I'm Americano so Colombian women will love me" without a second thought to being able to have a conversation with her in her native language![/QUOTE]Ain't that the truth! With or without Spanish, guys are setting themselves for a bad time with this kind of attitude.
-Helpmann :)
Size 1 to 3 max.. No fat butts for me!
I just wanted to second the comments on learning Spanish. Without speaking the language, you still won't have much trouble getting sex, but it will likely be more of a business transaction than it would be if you could communicate and get to know each other.
What if you don't have the time to go take classes or spend six months listening to language CDs? Here are a couple of things you can do.
On a recent trip with a non-Spanish speaking friend, we each had a girl for the night but he complained about feeling left out of conversations when the four of us were together. Although I speak Spanish, I always have a Spanish-English dictionary with me, and my friend grabbed it and it turned out to be much more than just a means for looking up words for him and his girl.
He told me they spent their first hour in the room lying side by side on the bed looking up words in the dictionary, trying to figure out what the other was saying. Soon they were joking about some of the words they found, or teasing each other over their attempts to pronouce the words correctly. The result of that interaction was that in a short time they actually got to know each other very well, despite the extremely limited number of words they actually learned. They had an awesome time together, but having that dictionary gave them a place to start.
Keep in mind that in many parts of the world you'll meet chicas who don't know how to read, so this won't always work.
But they all know how to dance. Get her to show you some dance steps. You won't need a word of Spanish to have a lot of fun interacting if you're dancing with her. Bring a little radio, some way to play music in your room, a radio will pick up the local music and that's all you need. Just do me a favor and don't play it so loud that I have to listen to it through the wall if I'm next door in my room playing music of my own! ;-)
Of course if she's totally hardcore none of this may make much difference, then you'll need some Spanish just for the negotiations. But in general, if your communication with her is purely about sex, then sex you'll get; but interacting with her in other ways and about other things can establish a connection that will make the encounter that much better, even if you can't speak the language.
All that said, I still highly recommend learning the language, but if you want to travel and you don't speak the local lingo, don't get discouraged, there are still plenty of ways to communicate.
Crossfire, does Ani have a tattoo on her shoulder and a tattoo above her butt?
Forget about a gfe experience, what about the chica pulling scams like leaving early, stealing money, getting the police? Will she likely do this if you speak spanish?
If a chica speaks, English, does this mean she's more hardcore? Especially, if she's fluent?
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Crossfire, does Ani have a tattoo on her shoulder and a tattoo above her butt?
Forget about a gfe experience, what about the chica pulling scams like leaving early, stealing money, getting the police? Will she likely do this if you speak spanish?
If a chica speaks, English, does this mean she's more hardcore? Especially, if she's fluent?[/QUOTE]
Not every time.... a little more intelligent perhaps... but a mind is a terrible thing to fuck............
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]...what about the chica pulling scams like leaving early, stealing money, getting the police? Will she likely do this if you speak spanish?[/QUOTE][b]Spanish fluency WILL NOT save your ass if you choose to hunt tigers instead of gazelles!!!!!! [/b]If you can't tell a tiger from a gazelle then you're in trouble. Below are some helpful hints (listed in order of importance) that will help you discern who's a tiger and who's a gazelle.
-Helpmann :)
[b]1. Location[/b]
If you choose to hunt in Boca Chica or Sosua you've significantly increased the odds of a finding a tiger. Tigers love to hunt at night on Duarte (Boca Chica) and at Classicos (Sosua.)
[b]2. Time of Day[/b]
If you choose to hunt at night you should be very skeptical of the women you meet, because you've significantly increased the odds of a finding a tiger. Good girls skip school to make a few bucks in the daytime, but return home at night. In tiger areas (Boca Chica, Sosua...), hookers and girls from broken families are the girls you will find in the evenings.
[b]3. Age[/b]
If you choose to hunt in "tiger areas" (Boca Chica, Sosua...), then you should be skeptical of all women 20+. Dominican girls start fucking and having babies early. Some even start whoring early. Get them early. Get them before they spoil (6-months+ whoring in Sosua or Boca Chica.)
[b]4. Bi-lingual[/b]
If your girl speaks English, French, Italian, German... RUN!!! Believe me, she's been working 6-months+ in Sosua or Boca Chica.
[b]5. Nationality[/b]
If your girl is Haitian you should be skeptical, because you've increased the odds of a finding a tiger. Not all Haitians are tigers and there are plenty of Dominican tigers to go around. Nevertheless, I believe that Haitian girls harden at a younger age than Dominicanas.
[b]NOTE: Providing BFE CANNOT change a tiger's stripes. If anything, it may work against you. Hunt cautiously.[/b]
No offense, but I hope you don't come across as timid in real life as you do on here because they can sense that and exploit it. I met some guys my last trip and two were newbies, one join the group on Friday and the other on Saturday. Both were first time mongers and the same girl got them both night s for a total of $250. She didn't know they were together but she was able to spot a newbie and took them for as much as she could. Be aware of your body language and act as if you belong. Don't be too impress by the girls and maintain a sense of masculinity when dealing with them. Dominican culture is very macho. If you can't speak Spanish, be sure to speak man.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Forget about a gfe experience, what about the chica pulling scams like leaving early, stealing money, getting the police? Will she likely do this if you speak spanish?
If a chica speaks, English, does this mean she's more hardcore? Especially, if she's fluent?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kendan]...spent their first hour in the room lying side by side on the bed looking up words in the dictionary, trying to figure out what the other was saying. Soon they were joking about some of the words they found, or teasing each other over their attempts to pronouce the words correctly...
...Get her to show you some dance steps. You [b]won't need a word of Spanish to have a lot of fun interacting if you're dancing with her.[/b] Bring a little radio, some way to play music in your room, a radio will pick up the local music and that's all you need...
Of course [b]if she's totally hardcore none of this may make much difference[/b], then you'll need some Spanish just for the negotiations. But in general, [b]if your communication with her is purely about sex, then sex you'll get[/b]; but interacting with her in other ways and about other things can establish a connection that will make the encounter that much better, even if you can't speak the language.[/QUOTE]Very good examples of how to have fun.
-Helpmann :)
You are right. I'm probably timid in real life.
Helpmann, with your advise I shouldn't even bother going to Sosua :)
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Helpmann, with your advise I shouldn't even bother going to Sosua :)[/QUOTE]Just change your name to "Philippines Monger II" and you should be good to go!
-Helpmann :D
What is the reason?
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Just change your name to "Philippines Monger II" and you should be good to go!
-Helpmann :D[/QUOTE]
I'm looking for ST play only, for obvious reasons! Where are the places I can rent a room for a few hours?
I'm staying in Puerto Plata, but I plan on hittin' up Sosua once during the day and once at night.
Is it possible to get more than a bbbj at Passions?
Thanks Fellas!
[QUOTE=Always Horny #2]I'm looking for ST play only, for obvious reasons! Where are the places I can rent a room for a few hours?
I'm staying in Puerto Plata, but I plan on hittin' up Sosua once during the day and once at night.
Is it possible to get more than a bbbj at Passions?
Thanks Fellas![/QUOTE]
Everything is possible.....
I'm heading back to DR tomorrow (my 8th trip in 2 yrs)and I'm flying into POP to spend Friday in Sosua but my lovely university novia in SD demands I be there Sat. I'll drive if I have to(I've done it before) I can't seem to find any info on flights to SDQ from the north. Thanks for any help!
Unless I'm mistaken, you can catch a bus in Sosua that will take you to SD in about 5 hours for $US20 or less.
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]I'm heading back to DR tomorrow (my 8th trip in 2 yrs)and I'm flying into POP to spend Friday in Sosua but my lovely university novia in SD demands I be there Sat. I'll drive if I have to(I've done it before) I can't seem to find any info on flights to SDQ from the north. Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]
From Sosua it's about 270 pesos or $8 USD. An excellent bargain.
You catch it from the Caribe Tours depot in Los Charamicos so you'll need a "ride" from the el Batey side.[QUOTE=Yanqui69]Unless I'm mistaken, you can catch a bus in Sosua that will take you to SD in about 5 hours for $US20 or less.[/QUOTE]
Is anyone currently in Sosua and mongering? I heard it's very slow there this season. Is that true?
[QUOTE=Always Horny #2]I'm looking for ST play only, for obvious reasons! Where are the places I can rent a room for a few hours?
I'm staying in Puerto Plata, but I plan on hittin' up Sosua once during the day and once at night.
Is it possible to get more than a bbbj at Passions?
Thanks Fellas![/QUOTE]If you ask Peter then the answer is no for the passions girls at Passions. But, if you take one out to a hotel for an hour and a half then you can negotiate exactly what you want. 500 salida for 1.5 hours and full service. The girls want anywhere from 1000-1500 for that 1.5 hours. I took a few out at 1000 + 500 salida my last trip in November and stayed with most for about 2 hours because Peter knows me well.
Yeah the girls can be grabbed and taken back to your place and most will give it all up....
She is about 26, educated, claims to be 3rd year law student, and employed as bartender at an all inclusive hotel, Casa Marina. Not great looking, thick legs and hips. Good lay and service. She hangs in little hotel bars like New Garden Hotel during the day. She is a Thief! Avoid! Seems like a good deal for 1000 pesos. Not!
Excellent post, Ford.
[QUOTE=Ford] Helpmann and George90 are both sharp guys and I've enjoyed their contributions in the past. [/QUOTE]
And thank you very much for the kind words!
What did she steal?
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]She is about 26, educated, claims to be 3rd year law student, and employed as bartender at an all inclusive hotel, Casa Marina. Not great looking, thick legs and hips. Good lay and service. She hangs in little hotel bars like New Garden Hotel during the day. She is a Thief! Avoid! Seems like a good deal for 1000 pesos. Not![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What did she steal?[/QUOTE]Not only what did she steal. But, where is the pic of her so we can all be aware. I know a thick girl named Naomi that used to work at the Palace back in the day. If its her, I know her well and I doubt she would steal. Show us a pic.
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]I'm heading back to DR tomorrow (my 8th trip in 2 yrs)and I'm flying into POP to spend Friday in Sosua but my lovely university novia in SD demands I be there Sat. I'll drive if I have to(I've done it before) I can't seem to find any info on flights to SDQ from the north. Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]I have taken that Caribe Tours bus from POP to SDQ and make sure that you wear a sweater or jacket because that air blows super cold..Now imagine suffering through that for 5 hours..
What you can do is drive, If you have rented the car already, make her take a bus, or pay a taxi about ($115) to take you straight there.
Thanks guys for all the info. I decided tp drive cause I hate not being in control of my own destiny.
I pulled into Sosua about 5pm and after checking in made my way straight over to the Orange store to buy a simm chip. Met a couple of cute honey's that work at the store but no time for anything as I only wanted to check out what the market was in the disco's, so I got my simm and headed back to the hotel to rest and clean up.
That night around 10pm I went to classic's had a presidente down stairs and then headed upstairs around 11pm. The place was just starting to get movin'.
I'm a salsero and merenguero so I hit the dance floor as soon as some salsa music called me forth. Unfortuately not many chicas in the DR can dance salsa and what they do know is very limited. When it comes to merengue, most chicas can do the basics but can't follow too many advanced moves and this was the case that night.
Later in the night I met up with a morena who was okay(8) and as it was getting late I asked her to come to my hotel room. She agreed but we had to go to her apt so she could change and drop off her friend. We get to her apt and both start undressing, the friend looks good as I watch her remove her pants and top and climb into bed with just her thong. She smiles and continues to talk to me while I wait for my "chica". After getting a nice strip tease, the morena is ready to go. We leave her friend and head to my hotel.
That night I get a long bbbj and some great gfe. In the morning I wake up early and after a shower we go back to her apt. Now I don't like to be the first to bring up $ and apparently she doesn't either so we didn't talk price. We are infront of her apt and now and we start the discoarse. She asks for RD4000, I laugh and say no. I say RD1800 is all I have, she laughs and says no. I say no kidding that's it. She continues to inform of all the reasons why no less than RD3000 won't do and we are stuck at an impass. I tell her I have to leave for SD and give her the RD1800 she takes it, crumples it up, throws it on the floorboard of the car and gets out of the car. I don't have time for this so I drive away.
Four hours later I'm in SD with my beautiful chica and all is well. I stay with her for the next three days. She is why I keep returning to the DR. (Generally speaking, if you take the time to learn the culture and the language it is very easy to develop relationships with nonpros who will like you for who are and not just for what you can do for them financially).
I head back to sosua for the last night and pull out an interesting chica from Latin's disco. We get back to the hotelroom and she wants RD1200 for st. I agree and she spends the next 2 hours giving one of the best tongue baths I've had...
If your heading to the DR for cheap P4P and don't know the language or culture and don't have the inclination to learn them, my advise is don't bother.
Nice looking Chica. Thanks for the post. I tend to disagree on a couple of issues in your post. One, for all the newbies you NEVER take advantage of the services of the chica without having agreed upon a price. You survived this time but you cood have very easily ended up at the police station trying to pay your way out of a sticky situation. It sounds like you were with a pretty classy chica to not escalate the issue. Many would still be screaming for the police. You may want to consider yourself lucky and change your strategy on this one unless you are a Big baller that will pay anything.
I agree that learing the language and culture will enhance ones abilities, but I would not say don't bother if one cares not to learn. When it comes to Sex, I see guys who can't say Hola in Spanish have a great time in the DR. Sure they probable pay more because of the inability to negotiate. Many guys care less about the culture. They are strictly there for the services that are rendered. It soulds callus but I can relate. I happen to enjoy learning the people, country and the culture by day, but at night I could CARE LESS. Most of the Chicas don't know the culture. They are strictly surviving and know money.
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Thanks guys for all the info. I decided tp drive cause I hate not being in control of my own destiny.
I pulled into Sosua about 5pm and after checking in made my way straight over to the Orange store to buy a simm chip. Met a couple of cute honey's that work at the store but no time for anything as I only wanted to check out what the market was in the disco's, so I got my simm and headed back to the hotel to rest and clean up.
That night around 10pm I went to classic's had a presidente down stairs and then headed upstairs around 11pm. The place was just starting to get movin'.
I'm a salsero and merenguero so I hit the dance floor as soon as some salsa music called me forth. Unfortuately not many chicas in the DR can dance salsa and what they do know is very limited. When it comes to merengue, most chicas can do the basics but can't follow too many advanced moves and this was the case that night.
Later in the night I met up with a morena who was okay(8) and as it was getting late I asked her to come to my hotel room. She agreed but we had to go to her apt so she could change and drop off her friend. We get to her apt and both start undressing, the friend looks good as I watch her remove her pants and top and climb into bed with just her thong. She smiles and continues to talk to me while I wait for my "chica". After getting a nice strip tease, the morena is ready to go. We leave her friend and head to my hotel.
That night I get a long bbbj and some great gfe. In the morning I wake up early and after a shower we go back to her apt. Now I don't like to be the first to bring up $ and apparently she doesn't either so we didn't talk price. We are infront of her apt and now and we start the discoarse. She asks for RD4000, I laugh and say no. I say RD1800 is all I have, she laughs and says no. I say no kidding that's it. She continues to inform of all the reasons why no less than RD3000 won't do and we are stuck at an impass. I tell her I have to leave for SD and give her the RD1800 she takes it, crumples it up, throws it on the floorboard of the car and gets out of the car. I don't have time for this so I drive away.
Four hours later I'm in SD with my beautiful chica and all is well. I stay with her for the next three days. She is why I keep returning to the DR. (Generally speaking, if you take the time to learn the culture and the language it is very easy to develop relationships with nonpros who will like you for who are and not just for what you can do for them financially).
I head back to sosua for the last night and pull out an interesting chica from Latin's disco. We get back to the hotelroom and she wants RD1200 for st. I agree and she spends the next 2 hours giving one of the best tongue baths I've had...
If your heading to the DR for cheap P4P and don't know the language or culture and don't have the inclination to learn them, my advise is don't bother.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reply Griot. Actually that is what I've been doing for many, many years. There is an old adage that I strictly adhere to in business and that is
" The first to state a price, looses ". I travel around the world and luck, in my view, has little to do with how situations unfold in my interactions. You don't get what you deserve in life, you get what you negotiate. That my friend, is why the former is my main tool in all negotiations...
Although, I highly recommend that one negotiate, 20% of the time I don't. If the girl is so hard or so new I will look to negotiate as to limit confusion. Nevertheless, in some instances, I don't negotiate.
When I feel I'm in a position of power, knowing that the woman will take what I give her, I don't bother to negotiate. We have some drinks, fuck, then I drive her back.
-Helpmann :)
Why not just give a lowball price? 500 for ST, 1000 for LT?
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Why not just give a lowball price? 500 for ST, 1000 for LT?[/QUOTE]I generally see lowballing as a joke and I am positive the girls see it that way as well (you only have one chance to make a first impression.) You're either in Boca Chica (or Sosua) to buy pussy or not. If you want to make jokes, it's done to your detriment.
I'm not saying that I don't offer RD$500. I'm just saying that I offer RD$500 for girls that are approx. RD$500. For short-time, sometimes I pay RD$600, RD$700, RD$800, RD$1,000 or RD$1,200 (it's been a long time since I've paid more than RD$1,200 for anything in BC or Sosua.)
Just by looking at the girl and evaluating your surroundings you should know off the bat approximately how much it's going to cost you. Then, depending on how horny you are, you should offer 0-20% less.
[b]If you really want to bang this girl:[/b]
1) Estimate how much it's going to cost you [B]("STEP #1")[/B]
2) Decide if you want to pay this price
3) Make an offer (0-20% less estimate)
4) Listen to her acquiesce or negotiate
You should be more than willing to walk away if she asks for more than 20% of your initial offer.
[b]BTW: If the girl agrees rather quickly to accompany you after you've made your initial offer, you've paid too much! A slow decision can mean a number of things.[/b]
-Helpmann :)
These sound like figures from a used car purchase. every circumstance is different. I really don't think there is a correct formula. Trying to create one is "HG". Now if these are meant to be starting guidelines, than I can agree with this. Experience is the only way to achieve proper skills to negociate. Alot of factors come into play that are not mentioned. Compitition on that particular night is a big one. And I am refering to not only the number of shoppers, but also the quality of the "talent pool" out and about on any given night. I do agree that low balling is a sure way to a lousy performance. you must hit that golden number where she knows she cannot railroad you, but she still wants and needs your business. You must remember that this is strictly a business deal, nothing more. She wants all she can get, with the least amount of "Wear and Tear". You want a GFE, or a wild fuck for as little as you can. A quick offer is also not a good idea. I am not saying wait to move in. This is also foolish. Move in, have a few drinks, and then ease into the business dealings. After she quotes you, and you must let her come up with the starting figure, don't react immediatly to it. let her try to read your mind. A poker face, and no immediate reaction will soon bring a more attactive offer quickly.
"the one and only"
I think that its best to use whichever style that makes you feel comfortable. I personally like to negotiate before we get started to minimize the confusion.
But on the other hand I have a monger in law that will not go with a girl if she brings up price beforehand..To me that is strange, but to each its own.
If we both are in the marketplace looking to fulfill each others needs then to me its best to be straightforward with each other on our expectations.
I also don't pay attention to guys quotes on price because some guys will go with any old thing, while others have a more descriminating taste.
I ran into a woman in Sosua that wouldn't give me a price. She wanted me to offer first. I just sat there and drank and then I left.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]These sound like figures from a used car purchase. every circumstance is different. I really don't think there is a correct formula. Trying to create one is "HG"... [/QUOTE]Hog wash? God, I hope you're not referring to my post? There is and has been a method to negotiations. There are plenty of courses and books on how to negotiate and they all generally refer to knowing ones personal BATNA (your "price") and trying to figure out the other party's BATNA (her "price.")
Once you know [b]"STEP #1",[/b] the other party's BATNA (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement), you know what the other person wants and it's just a matter of whether you choose to pay it.
Believe me, negotiating with uneducated third world hookers isn't that hard! Once you realize that some women (Duarte and Classicos girls) are more than willing to go home alone every night, 7-nights a week, than negotiate a lower price, you know to stay clear of these irrational tigres (they're not that "irrational"," they're just "gambling" that they can find a "sucker" before they go broke.) Most of the tigres can be found in the evenings on Duarte Street (Boca Chica) and at clubs like Classicos (Sosua.) Call it pride or laziness, but most of these girls are much more interested in hanging out with their friends than making money and because they're "gambling" looking for the "sucker," they're behind (in debt) and feel the pressure to "double down" (RD$2,000+), instead of lowering their prices.
If you're negotiating with gazelles, you don't have much experience estimating BATNAs, and you really want to bang this chick, buy her a drink and feel her out. Unless, I think I'll have to pay RD$1,000+, I won't need the drink and conversation. Usually, I offer RD$700 or RD$800; however, sometimes their BATNAs are RD$600 and RD$700 respectively. This is a loss of RD$100, which for me, equates to the price of my time + her drink.
Good Luck!
Helpmann :)
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATNA[/url]
I see talk of Sosua? Please tell me is this a part of a city? A street? I am new to this and I have not really figured things out yet. I am flying into Santo Domingo, I need a clean cheap hotel close to the action. Can you help? I have seen the names Hotel Europa & Aurora Hotel but I can't find them on the net. Is there a certain part of the city where the clubs are located. Whats best area to stay?
Thanks Larry
[QUOTE=Alew217]I see talk of Sosua? Please tell me is this a part of a city? A street? I am new to this and I have not really figured things out yet. I am flying into Santo Domingo, I need a clean cheap hotel close to the action. Can you help? I have seen the names Hotel Europa & Aurora Hotel but I can't find them on the net. Is there a certain part of the city where the clubs are located. Whats best area to stay?
Thanks Larry[/QUOTE]
Sousa is a town in the north near Puerto Plata... Santa Domingo is central and quite a distance from Sousa... but has its own places... try the different towns in the DR thread... just click on the link in front of Sousa above and it will list all the town options.
I don't value my time at 100 dominican pesos.
Step Two: Forget about step one, and just go fuck, not worrying about 100 pesos,(about $3).
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]I ran into a woman in Sosua that wouldn't give me a price. She wanted me to offer first. I just sat there and drank and then I left.[/QUOTE]When negotiating, it's always best to wait for the other party to make the first offer. Nevertheless, sometimes you just don't have the time.
When making the initial offer, tigres have a strong tendency to over price themselves, while gazelles have a tendency to under price themselves. Although, I seldom wait for a girl to make the initial offer, I love to hear a gazelle ask for RD$500.
-Helpmann :)
No, this girl wouldn't make an offer, no matter how many times I asked her. I sat there for maybe 15-20 minutes while she was touching me and flirting with me. I didn't want to make the first offer. I actually didn't understand her. She was attractive. I felt a bad vibe and just walked away. Did I do the right thing?
I was offered 500 for st in the morning when I guess one of those Classico girls finished the night with a customer.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]No, this girl wouldn't make an offer, no matter how many times I asked her. I sat there for maybe 15-20 minutes while she was touching me and flirting with me. I didn't want to make the first offer. I actually didn't understand her. She was attractive. I felt a bad vibe and just walked away. Did I do the right thing?[/QUOTE]If you get a bad vibe, walk away. Nevertheless, if you really want the girl to make the initial offer, lead her by the hand, take her to your room, bang the fuck out of her, then show her the door. I am pretty sure this course of action will lead to an initial offer.
-Helpmann :D
It can get me in trouble too :) The girl might want 3000 pesos for ST? The police will come and get me.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]If you get a bad vibe, walk away. Nevertheless, if you really want the girl to make the initial offer, lead her by the hand, take her to your room, bang the fuck out of her, then show her the door. I am pretty sure this course of action will lead to an initial offer.
-Helpmann :D[/QUOTE]
Is there a place like "LA Passions massage" in Cabarete? I heard of some massage place in Cabarete that was like Passions? Is there such a place?
Technically, if you don't discuss money and bring a chick to your hotel and stay the night. Can't someone argue that they didn't know that the girl was a prostitute. You can tell her that you thought she was a regular girl and just wanted to have a one night stand. Money, what? I never paid for sex in my life!
My experience is that if you allow the chicas to give the impression to her friends that she bagged a whale, they tend to feel they made a better deal is the case.
The few times I used a girl's desperation against her by negotiating a low price, it always translated into a lousy effort later on and me feeling like crap back at home.
If you want to pay a low price, wait for a girl who is happy with the price you're willing to pay. If you're eager to grab a girl and want to pay a low price, do yourself a favor and just grab an older/uglier chick.
MC
[QUOTE=Bedroom Bully]I also don't pay attention to guys quotes on price because some guys will go with any old thing, while others have a more descriminating taste.[/QUOTE]This is an important point. Gauging what one is going to pay based on internet quotes is pointless. Some guys will get a good price but not a good value.
Gentlemen,
On my one previous trip to Blackbeards the rental agent did not show as promised with a car. The taxi drivers were of course working the home court advantage for the trip. I want to travel from home base so a car is obligatory. Is there a hotel close to the Santiago airport (it needs to be nice at 50 and counting).
I hoping on the drive to meet a new friend. Spainish CD's. Not home court but at least one step away from "Gringo". Thank you!
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Technically, if you don't discuss money and bring a chick to your hotel and stay the night. Can't someone argue that they didn't know that the girl was a prostitute. You can tell her that you thought she was a regular girl and just wanted to have a one night stand. Money, what? I never paid for sex in my life![/QUOTE]I don't know if its a good idea to focus on ways to weasel out of paying the girls. If you don't have money just save up, that way you can go there having a clear conscience and not having to count every penny or figure out ways not to pay.
My Co-worker also tells me that he doesn't pay for sex, but you should also see his face when he gets his wife's credit card bills at the end the month.
[QUOTE=Lazy Monger]This is an important point. Gauging what one is going to pay based on internet quotes is pointless. Some guys will get a good price but not a good value.[/QUOTE]I have seen this first hand where guys come on here bragging about 500 peso girls but walk around with sea hags. In that case I don't see the point in getting on the plane.
I think getting an attractive girl at a reasonable price. I am not trying to get over on her, and I dont want her to try that on me.
[QUOTE=Lazy Monger] Some guys will get a good price but not a good value.[/QUOTE]
Excellent and very intelligent statement!
I was only joking of course. I guess technically every girl you take out of Classico or DLatino is a working girl. I guess its expected that you pay.
[QUOTE=Bedroom Bully]I don't know if its a good idea to focus on ways to weasel out of paying the girls. If you don't have money just save up, that way you can go there having a clear conscience and not having to count every penny or figure out ways not to pay.
My Co-worker also tells me that he doesn't pay for sex, but you should also see his face when he gets his wife's credit card bills at the end the month.[/QUOTE]
Here's a little information on the new disco High Caribbean Jef. Freddy is the man running things there. Freddy is aware of the this website and is very interested in your thoughts and opinions about the club.
For now, the club will be open Thursday thru Sunday. They are in the works of getting 30 live-in chicas to work the club on a regular basis so mongers will always have a fresh supply of beauties to choose from. The club will provide them room and board. Feel free to call the club directly and ask for Freddy. He will answer all your questions. The phone number is 809-571-2508
I went there almost four years ago on my first trip to DR. I guess it was closed then re opened under a new owner.
It was ok not many people there. If they stocked it with women it might make for a nice break from sosua.
I had a problem finding a cab when I left so I had to go on a motoconcho while I was drunk...not fun. I probably just got unlucky.
Yeni is a 26 year old cutie I had the last time I was in Sosua. A couple of days later she showed up at my hotel with her girlfriend, a gorgeous 23 year very small girl. I opened the door, they came in and started to undress me and themselves.
I s+f them both, they both gave me a bj. They both came and I did that 3 times. Gave both 1500.
The hottest threesome I experienced so far.
Enjoy a pic of Yeni. If you want her phone nr please pm me.
[QUOTE=Alew217]I see talk of Sosua? Please tell me is this a part of a city? A street? I am new to this and I have not really figured things out yet. I am flying into Santo Domingo, I need a clean cheap hotel close to the action. Can you help? I have seen the names Hotel Europa & Aurora Hotel but I can't find them on the net. Is there a certain part of the city where the clubs are located. Whats best area to stay?
Thanks Larry[/QUOTE]
Larry,
You can find al you want to know by just reading the posts in the Sosua section.
To give you the highlights: The action is on a street called Pedro Clisante. Merengue bar, Clasico disco and Latino Club bar and disco are the places to be. A lot of hotels are around there. Depending on what you are prepared to pay.
I would recommend Casa Valeria Hotel, small, friendly, round US$40, swimming pool, and they don't care how many chicas you bring. But there are a lot of other options.
If you like contact details or any other advise, please let me know.
Dutchie
Where is it.
1. Caribe Campos. 2. Residencial Carlos. 3.Las Canas.
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]1. Caribe Campos. 2. Residencial Carlos. 3.Las Canas.[/QUOTE]
Only no 2 is in walking distance to everything, but i think it's very basic and maybe a bit run down.
[QUOTE=Dutchie525]Yeni is a 26 year old cutie I had the last time I was in Sosua. A couple of days later she showed up at my hotel with her girlfriend, a gorgeous 23 year very small girl. I opened the door, they came in and started to undress me and themselves.
I s+f them both, they both gave me a bj. They both came and I did that 3 times. Gave both 1500.
The hottest threesome I experienced so far.
Enjoy a pic of Yeni. If you want her phone nr please pm me.[/QUOTE]
I'll guess the other one was Mildred, two very known and active girls in Sosua, You will find them at Classico every night.
HIGH CARIBBEAN IS DONE.
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]Where is it.[/QUOTE]High Caribbean Disco is located on the far east end of Pedro Clisante.
The velvet rope is closed. The gates are down. There one guy in there. Does he live there?
[QUOTE=Papa Benito]Where is it.[/QUOTE]
On Pedro Cliante towards Playa Chiquita casino. On the right hand side. Just past the road to turn to highway 5 near the car wash.
I went to High Caribe on Friday 19th. I was told that it was the grand reopening. The club was packed and it was great. I really like the set up. Inside the was a DJ and girls dancing on stages. Outside there was a live band. I saw a few familiar putas but it look like a lot of local dominicans just out enjoying themselves. The feel is definately different from classico. I also noticed a lot of tourist being shuttled to the club. I think most of the all inclusives are trying to steer their guest to this club since Club X is closed. It's funny seeing all of the signs for Club X. It is one of the first things you see on the way to Sosua from the airport. The sign say Club X open everyday and now they are not open at all. Club X was only open for about a year. Seacrets is struggling to stay alive. Latino club is open a few months and doing ok. The Velvet Rope is dying. Now High Caribe opens up. It is just to hard to tell anything by the grand opening these clubs just don't last. Sosua just dosen't attract the amount of tourist needed to fill these clubs. Enjoy it while it last. I'll be back in Sosua in about 2 weeks, so I'll give an update then.
Helpmann,
Do you offer 700-800 for all the night or 2-3 hours?
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Hog wash? God, I hope you're not referring to my post? There is and has been a method to negotiations. There are plenty of courses and books on how to negotiate and they all generally refer to knowing ones personal BATNA (your "price") and trying to figure out the other party's BATNA (her "price.")
Once you know [b]"STEP #1",[/b] the other party's BATNA (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement), you know what the other person wants and it's just a matter of whether you choose to pay it.
Believe me, negotiating with uneducated third world hookers isn't that hard! Once you realize that some women (Duarte and Classicos girls) are more than willing to go home alone every night, 7-nights a week, than negotiate a lower price, you know to stay clear of these irrational tigres (they're not that "irrational"," they're just "gambling" that they can find a "sucker" before they go broke.) Most of the tigres can be found in the evenings on Duarte Street (Boca Chica) and at clubs like Classicos (Sosua.) Call it pride or laziness, but most of these girls are much more interested in hanging out with their friends than making money and because they're "gambling" looking for the "sucker," they're behind (in debt) and feel the pressure to "double down" (RD$2,000+), instead of lowering their prices.
If you're negotiating with gazelles, you don't have much experience estimating BATNAs, and you really want to bang this chick, buy her a drink and feel her out. Unless, I think I'll have to pay RD$1,000+, I won't need the drink and conversation. Usually, I offer RD$700 or RD$800; however, sometimes their BATNAs are RD$600 and RD$700 respectively. This is a loss of RD$100, which for me, equates to the price of my time + her drink.
Good Luck!
Helpmann :)
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATNA[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alew217]I see talk of Sosua? Please tell me is this a part of a city? A street? I am new to this and I have not really figured things out yet. I am flying into Santo Domingo, I need a clean cheap hotel close to the action. Can you help? I have seen the names Hotel Europa & Aurora Hotel but I can't find them on the net. Is there a certain part of the city where the clubs are located. Whats best area to stay?
Thanks Larry[/QUOTE]Larry, Just to put you straight, Sosua is a town in the North East near Puerto Plata, and about 4 hours (I think) by cab from Santo Domingo. So if you want to go to Sosua you are best to travel to Puerto Plata. I know that Hotel Europa is in Sosua, although I haven't been there in about 4 years. Blackbeard's is a chica friendly resort in the area. If you're going to Santo Domingo look in that section of the ISGuide.
[QUOTE=Marco30]Helpmann,
Do you offer 700-800 for all the night or 2-3 hours?[/QUOTE]For the gazelles I hunt, the median price I pay has been RD$700 - RD$800 for one "hour" (until I orgasm.)
Although, there are a few exceptions, I [b]RARELY[/b] allow a woman to stay the night. Tigres leave early and gazelles never leave; therefore, I only permit women that I know well to spend the night. The median price I pay has been RD$1,000 and the range has been RD$500 - RD$2,000.
[b]BTW: Generally, the prices I quote in my posts are for short-time only.[/b]
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
Will be in Sosua tomorrow (Sunday) will give an update on High Carib disco.
Thanks alot, Going to the "SOSEWER" for the first time in About a year and a half, I thought my DR days were well behind me, but like 20 of us are going for a bachelor party so it will be a blast and maybe just maybe ill find a diamond in the "Rough"
No Viagra without Rx, says Ministry
SANTO DOMINGO.- The Ministry of Health’s Drugs and Pharmacies Agency is warning that as from January, anyone found selling sexual stimulants or any other drugs that require a prescription outside pharmacies will be subject to legal penalties ranging from fines to up to two years in jail.
Agency head David Díaz Guzmán said that a list of prescription drugs was being prepared. He also said that his department was going to limit inappropriate advertising for erectile dysfunction drugs, such as songs with risqué double-entendres, some of which have already been banned.
He said that these drugs are being consumed by young people and others who do not need them, and that this was a cause for concern, because they should only be used under medical prescription because of possible side effects, including dependence.
The Drugs and Pharmacies Agency will also be tackling the sale of medications outside pharmacies, in illegal establishments and advertising. The failure to act until now, he said, was due to under-funding, but he said that the resources required for more inspectors were now available.
Pharmacy owners say that erectile dysfunction drugs are their best-selling products, and that most are purchased by males between the ages of 18 and 45.
As well as pharmacies, these drugs are sold unrestrictedly in colmados, nightclubs, car washes, cafeterias, brothels and others. One chemist, Richard Camilo from Los Pinos pharmacy said that the demand for sexual stimulants from young men was “incredible”, adding that any taboos surrounding the need for such drugs no longer existed.
A colmado owner in Los Ciruelos, Andrés Rodríguez, said he started selling three brands of sexual stimulants six months ago, and now sells more of these than rice and beans.
“I’ve sold 800,000 tablets and the people who buy them are young people”, said Rodriguez.
A Cibao-based feminist group has warned that the use of these drugs has led to an increase in sexual assaults against women in the region, because many young men consume them after excessive drinking.
It is business as usual for Viagra etc. I had friends there in the last week buy it as before. The rules are not in effect in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Kdogg21]It is business as usual for Viagra etc. I had friends there in the last week buy it as before. The rules are not in effect in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I believe that such drugs may be available over the counter from pharmacies, but no longer may be sold in colmadas (covenience stores).
[QUOTE=Supertigre]I believe that such drugs may be available over the counter from pharmacies, but no longer may be sold in colmadas (covenience stores).[/QUOTE]You are probably right. The first time I went to buy it the Pharmacies were sold out in Sosua and a guy in a car parts store tried to sell me some. I passed. went to Purto Plata the next day and they had lots there.
What is the cost per pill, 100mg?
Last September I paid 400 pesos or about US$12 for a packet of 4 100mg tablets of generic Viagra at a farmacia in Boca Chica. Since I quarter them, that comes to about $0.75 per dose. It works fine for me.
I bought the name brand at the same place in 2004, when I was a newbie. It cost, I think, $US10 per pill. I don't see any difference between the two in effectiveness.
The generic packet, about 3 inches square, has a picture of a white stallion on the front.
I wonder if they will use the "ban" as an excuse to increase the price.
Note to Supertigre: that was my read too, that it can only be sold over the counter at farmacias and nowhere else. We'll see how that goes. Next thing you know, they'll be trying to outlaw prostitution. Why oh why does the DR want to be just like the Good Ol' USA?
Hi Helpmann,
I agree fully with that Batna thing....most girls would rather starve then lower their price by 500 pesos. I mean 3000 pesos for an all-nighter??? Come on...please. Thats about HALF a normal monthly salary!!!
It all comes down to looks,language skills and the "horny"factor of the male negociator;-)
IOW...if you look like shit, can't speak spanish and are horny as hell...you usualy pay the price charged by the girl.
Like i always say: "don't pay first world prices if you are in a third world country!!".
Personaly (like you) i don't like all-nigthers. Just 1-2 horas of f*ck session and then it's "chao linda"....One friend of mine got robbed back in 2002 (in Sosua) by a girl becoz the dumb ass fell assleep while the chica was in his room during an "all-nighter"....!
keep us informed helpmann. Love to read your stories.
Keep on F*cking!!
regards,
Johan
PS: I am down in the DR starting the 5th febr. till 27th....:-)If some of you wanna hook up PM me....I still have some days left SIN novia;-)
[QUOTE=Helpmann]For the gazelles I hunt, the median price I pay has been RD$700 - RD$800 for one "hour" (until I orgasm.)
Although, there are a few exceptions, I [b]RARELY[/b] allow a woman to stay the night. Tigres leave early and gazelles never leave; therefore, I only permit women that I know well to spend the night. The median price I pay has been RD$1,000 and the range has been RD$500 - RD$2,000.
[b]BTW: Generally, the prices I quote in my posts are for short-time only.[/b]
Cheers!
Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Have had cameras, phones and cash stolen in the DR.... hey if you drink you are at risk.... especially when you go for the late night happy hour...
Does anyone know if XM channels are available in the DR, Sosua specifically? Thanks! Sorry for the spelling errors.
[QUOTE=Doe Boy]Does anyone know if XM channels are available in the DR, Sosua specifically? Thanks! Sorry for the spelling errors.[/QUOTE]
I believe it is. The Shark Bar has satelite radio. I could be sirius though.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]I believe it is. The Shark Bar has satelite radio. I could be sirius though.[/QUOTE]
Lou and the Shark Bar has everything you need.....
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Tried several agencies. The best far was Amber Guardian. Call Karina. She was organized and showed me many excellent apartments in Sosua/Cabarete.
Seems to be mucho local action here on weekends. Anyone tried it?
Visited about 10pm Friday, but was dead. Talked to a bartender friend, she said they have a lesbo act about midnight on Sat.?
Sosua Life has far fewer patrons. The disco is more and more inhabited with young local men, several obviously gay and/or bi-sexual. Music is loud and hip-hop. They are no competition because of their orientation and lack of money. However, i did find 2 terrific young chicas there. Classico bar always full. Disco very good with a lotta 7's, a few 8's. Easy to find good chicas. Sat., they tried a 100 peso cover. I believe it failed. Please boycott them, if they try again.
Both appear to be finished. Maybe here and there?
My trip to Sosua is up and down! Best body ever, has returned from Miami with a grande actitude=so much for her. My favorita(Jeni)= a couple good sessions, then she decided to ''play me'' against others =goodbye. #3 Favorita has not returned from SDQ. I went with 4'' tongue chica (Veronica) one night, great-round-the-world and bbbj. Similar with a stacked Haitian. All of these chicas can be found at Classic and Sosua Life. I would say the scene here has deteriorated some since the holidays=fewer stunners. Oh well, my gf arrived Sunday from SDQ and all is well!
Near the S.W. corner of Pedro Clisante and Dr. Rosen. Many ex-pats ''hang'' there. A great place to meet people. Good food, coffee pots, internet, Wi-Fi, reasonable. Marco is the owner and an excellent, knowledgable owner. They have parties, Holiday dinners, etc..
Chica friendly but with knowledgeable security, big pool, game room, good restaurant, fun bar with visiting chicas, and an all monger clientel. Located near the far end of Pedro Clisante, near the Casino. I have stayed there 5 times. Henk and Harold are the managers.
No offence to you Chily, just in case you aren't another Marco alias.
This guy has so many aliases going on it isn't funny. He promotes his pathetic little restauraunt on every forum related to the DR.
Next time you're there, why not ask his cooks what they think of him? Ask the expats that aren't hanging out there what they think of his restauraunt.
Visit the DR1 forum to witness his many aliases. It really is pathetic.
Truth: Food takes about 90 minutes to get to your table. This accounts for the "atmosphere" you get. It takes so long because his cooks hate him. Many people have witnessed him screaming at the employees. He's a wannabee.
There are dozens of better places to "hang" than that place. The only reason for the rib reputation is the aliases posting about them.
Just thought people should know the truth.
If you have a beef with Marco (the owner of Rocky's), why not address it with him?
Because by steering traveling mongers away from Rocky's - you're denying them one of the DR's most comfortable, fun, safe and affordable experiences.
I've been to Sosua MANY times. Have stayed several OTHER places, but have found my Sosua "home" at Rocky's.
The rooms are basic at best, most without AC. And yes, you'll wait awhile for your food. There might even be a big-ass black dog underfoot as you eat or drink. Welcome to Rocky's. It's like your oldest, most comfortable pair of slippers.
[QUOTE=Sosuatype]No offence to you Chily, just in case you aren't another Marco alias...There are dozens of better places to "hang" than that place... The only reason for the rib reputation is the aliases posting about them...Just thought people should know the truth.[/QUOTE]
Marco has been most cordial to me He spent at least one hour making refinements to my laptop. He refused any payment.
I am another fan of Rocky's... no shill just another monger who knows he can get a decent breakfast and access to the web in a colorful atmosphere.... it is a regular meeting spot of mongers from various boards and though yes food takes time getting there - it is much like the DR experience - no one is in a rush.
I only went to Rocky's once, but I liked it too.
As EK said, slow service is part of the DR experience. The excuse they used when I was there was that everything was made fresh. OK, I'll buy that.
I liked the internet access there also.
I opened an account at Bankers Trust, 25 Pedro Clisante for $25. They give you a Miami address. You have all your USA mail forwarded by the Post Office to the Miami address. The Miami office of BT sends it to Sosua for $3.50 per pound. BT telephones you that mail has arrived.
I'm convinced that most of these forums focus on how to be a cheapskate more than how to have fun. Let's face it sosua is a shit hole because everyone wants everything for next to nothing. I think there is a real difference between paying too much, paying a fare price, and being cheap. While I see nothing wrong with finding good buys and getting discounts, I think it is crazy how all the forums focus on being a cheap ass. Most of these guys are trying to penny pinch because they are making several trips per year and they can't afford quality lodging and sevices over the 4-10 trips they will make per year. There is nothing wrong with this, but all of that gets lost in translation. Most people new to these forums don't realize that the post they are reading is by a guy who plans on making several trips per year to the DR and other places. So they don't realize why the guy is chasing 100RD chicas, staying in shit hole hotels, and then trying to convince you that this is how the DR is supposed to be done.
I was reading a post on another forum by one of the senior members. This was an unusual post because the member was posting about his trip to Las Vegas. In the post I noticed the guy went all out. He stayed at an expensive hotel on the strip. Bought expensive drinks for chicas and treated them to expensive shows. But when in the DR it's $30 rooms and $30 chicas.
I use the above example to show that if you have never been to the DR then you may want to take following advice:
Read the Forum(s)- there is a lot of great information there that can point you in the right direction. You can gage what the going rate is to pay a chica for short time or Todo la noche. Also the forums contain lots of information that will keep you safe.
Be yourself- Don't try to reproduce someone elses vaction experience. Get ideas from the forum and explore new things. Keep in mind that these forum(s) like politics have a certain spin to them. The forum(s) have a certain slant that leans toward, how to be a cheapskate in DR, instead of how to have a good time in the DR.
Accomodations- If you've never been to the DR before, but have been on vacation before, then you know what kind of hotel it is that you need. Of course it must be chica friendly (chicas are what these boards are about). after that it is up to you to decided. Don't let people on the board steer you into staying at a shit hole hotel because its OK for them. There are all levels of Chica friendly places in the DR from rooms, to condos, to villas. All reasonably priced. I take this one personally because it happend to me (palace hotel). 2 weeks ago I visited a friend of mine staying at the latest monger favorite hotel (New Garden). The Bathroom had a hot water heater just above the bathroom door. The water tank was leaking water at a fast rate and pouring water over the electric wires. It took serval complaints for management to give him a new room. So keep in mind that the latest monger hotel does not mean that it is a quality hotel. It usually means it's chica friendly and cheap.
Paying Chicas- Again read the forum because you need to find what the average going rate is for chicas. Once you know the going rates ignore the cheapskates. So what if Joe found a $300RD chica. Just be you. You may get some for free. I did. I'm for over paying a chica as much as I am for over paying for a car. I wouldn't. However, I know a Ferrari when I see one and that is not often. After having had countless chicas in the DR, every now and then I feel entitled to have a top shelf chica. That's when I'll pay more than the going rate and that is not very often. Mainly because I can't find a chica that I think is worth it. It takes more than great looks for me to think a chica is worth more than the going rate. It's vibe and her attitude as well.
Summary- Don't let these forum(s) recreate you. We all like pussy. That is the one thing we have in common. So read the forum(s) so that you can gain information on what you need. Spit the rest out. There are many ways to do the DR. If you can have it all and you can afford it, go for it. Some of you will only be able to go to the DR once a year or once in a lifetime. So make the most of it. These are memories for life. Don't worry about the discount traveller on his 15th DR trip.
Crossfire very well said....
Greetings,
I luv it when someone who is brand new with a total of one post bashes a place I have been to a number of times. Rockys is not the be all and end all of places. However, Marco is a decent guy who I have seen help a number of visitors to the area. I have never had a problem there and I have found the service to be faster than most other places. Still slow compared to anything in the States but you are in the DR. I have made over a dozen visits to the DR and found that Rockys is a great place to hang at.
[QUOTE=Sosuatype]No offence to you Chily, just in case you aren't another Marco alias.
This guy has so many aliases going on it isn't funny. He promotes his pathetic little restauraunt on every forum related to the DR.
Next time you're there, why not ask his cooks what they think of him? Ask the expats that aren't hanging out there what they think of his restauraunt.
Visit the DR1 forum to witness his many aliases. It really is pathetic.
Truth: Food takes about 90 minutes to get to your table. This accounts for the "atmosphere" you get. It takes so long because his cooks hate him. Many people have witnessed him screaming at the employees. He's a wannabee.
There are dozens of better places to "hang" than that place. The only reason for the rib reputation is the aliases posting about them.
Just thought people should know the truth.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Don't worry about the discount traveller on his 15th DR trip.[/QUOTE]I don't worry about them but some of them seem to worry about me.
I never see generous people complain about how cheap some people are but the other way around is quite common.
[QUOTE=Snowbird]Greetings,
I luv it when someone who is brand new with a total of one post bashes a place I have been to a number of times. Rockys is not the be all and end all of places. However, Marco is a decent guy who I have seen help a number of visitors to the area. I have never had a problem there and I have found the service to be faster than most other places. Still slow compared to anything in the States but you are in the DR. I have made over a dozen visits to the DR and found that Rockys is a great place to hang at.[/QUOTE]
I've known Marco for a couple of years and I never had a problem with him, the issue from that DR1 board with Marco and a couple of ex-members is personal and has nothing to do with all of the newbies who jump on the bashing bandwagon. Only the old-timers on that board knows what went down. I'll leave it that, let those guys handle their own business, go there and enjoy the food, there are plenty of other joints to choose from.
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paying chicas- again read the forum because you need to find what the average going rate is for chicas. once you know the going rates ignore the cheapskates. so what if joe found a $300rd chica. just be you. you may get some for free. i did. i'm for over paying a chica as much as i am for over paying for a car. i wouldn't. however, i know a ferrari when i see one and that is not often. after having had countless chicas in the dr, every now and then i feel entitled to have a top shelf chica. that's when i'll pay more than the going rate and that is not very often. mainly because i can't find a chica that i think is worth it. it takes more than great looks for me to think a chica is worth more than the going rate. it's vibe and her attitude as well.
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the problem with this analysis is that the ferrari, especially if you're getting the right vibe/attitude, shouldn't be overpriced. the vibe/attitude basically means she likes you/feels comfortable with you and if it's that the case, she'll be very happy with the "going rate". otherwise, you're just getting played. if she's several standard deviations hotter than the average girl, then i suppose i could understand if she'll demand more money - though personally i would remain extremely skeptical. generally speaking in terms of sexual satisfaction/performance, money spent is inversely proportional to the former.
as to everything else in your piece, fair points but i would have to add that the biggest mistake people make is price everything in american $/purchasing power which is outright assinine and you should be leery of tourist traps and people who cater to tourists who price everything in $/american pricing power. it all adds up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
btw, in my experience the girls tend to laugh at wildly overspending people and have little to no respect for them. just learn spanish well enough to talk to them/befriend them, and you'll learn the same.
[quote=catire]the problem with this analysis is that the ferrari, especially if you're getting the right vibe/attitude, shouldn't be overpriced. the vibe/attitude basically means she likes you/feels comfortable with you and if it's that the case, she'll be very happy with the "going rate". otherwise, you're just getting played. if she's several standard deviations hotter than the average girl, then i suppose i could understand if she'll demand more money - though personally i would remain extremely skeptical. generally speaking in terms of sexual satisfaction/performance, money spent is inversely proportional to the former.
as to everything else in your piece, fair points but i would have to add that the biggest mistake people make is price everything in american $/purchasing power which is outright assinine and you should be leery of tourist traps and people who cater to tourists who price everything in $/american pricing power. it all adds up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
btw, in my experience the girls tend to laugh at wildly overspending people and have little to no respect for them. just learn spanish well enough to talk to them/befriend them, and you'll learn the same.[/quote]
catire-you said "if she is several standard deviations hotter than the average girl then i suppose i could understand if she'll demand more money..." when i compaired her to a ferrari it should have been obvious that i was speaking of a girl that was "several standard deviations hotter than the average girl". if you can understand her asking for more money then enough said on that point right there. i went on to say that, it is not just looks that make a chica a ferrari it is "vibe and attitude." i don't think anyone needs that explain. i was merely saying that it is more than just looks that determines if a chica is worth it.
wildly overspending- i think i said read the forums to find out the going rate for short time and tln. obviously the researching of the forums is done to prevent wildly overspending. the only problem is as soon as some one wants to pay a little more than the next monger some el cheapo loses his mind. if i pay rd$300 more than you so what. did i wildly overspend? and as long as i'm not paying more for every chica? i'm not suggesting that you pay top dollar for every chica. i think the average man reading my post understood that. i am suggesting that- after doing some research and knowing the average rate people should be able to understand what is worth it and what is not, base on thier own values and not pressure from cheap asses on this board. it is good for the people to remember that it is thier lives, thier vacations, thier money, thier dicks, thier good times and thier memories. not mine and not yours. to get the most of thier vacations, the guy going on a once in a life time trip should not let a ferrari (several standard deviations hotter....) pass him buy because she wanted rd$300 more than the avarage girl.
pricing in usd-- when i negociate with a chica i always do it in pesos. i have had chicas make me offers in dollars and those are the chicas that are usually over priced(imho) and i usually tell them to fuck off.
chicas laughing- yes i have heard the chicas laugh stories before. while this is true, i am sure that it is no different than buying milk at twice the price. the clerk would laugh. or buying a house at twice the price. the sellers would laugh. but in the usa when we go to the 7-11(or other convience store) and pay a little more for the milk no one laughs. when you really want the house and pay a little more than the next guy, no one laughs. i could go on and on with examples. my point is, there is a difference between getting what you want and being a fool. the same goes for chicas. also, why not tell how some chicas(not all) laugh when el cheapo makes offers of $500rd. "the chicas laugh when..." defense for cheap mongers is true when applied to the fool but other than that its just bullshit to convince you to be cheap also.
again the main purpose of my previous post was to illustrate how most of these forums tend to try to hold people in a box. to have you live out thier cookie cutter vacations by recommending shitty hotels and telling you that you must be cheap in every way. then when they get back home, the same guys spend large amounts of money doing the same things(nyc). there is good valuable info on pricing and safety in the forum(s). much of that info gets lost in the competition to be as cheap as possible. i'm not suggesting that one be a "fool." so read the forum(s), do research and know the average rates for short time and tln. and remember the average rate is not written in stone. if you can get her for less-good.
purchasing power & tourist traps -- i have standards first. i think we all do. some people just need a concrete shell and bed to fuck a chica (hotel romanoff, clypso hotel). nothing wrong with that. just know your standards before you go. most mongers will not recommend anything more than $40 usd a night. if you go on vacation in your home country and you stay at shitty hotels then i can understand why you would do the same when you go to the dr. if you chose to stay in a decent place that cost a little more then i would not call that a tourist trap. there are plenty of shitty hotels and motels in vegas. ask yourself are you going to stay on or near the strip in las vegas or in a shitty motel. my suggestion is do the same in the dr (if you can afford it). just do you. don't let someone else say it is a tourist trap or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
for the new guys--know your standards and budgets before you go to dr. do the research and then try to get what you want, not what the forum wants. its your life.
ps: yes i know some of you have scored for $500rd and less. let's not dwell on this subject. i know it can be done. just using it to illustrated a point.
Is there such a person or persons? Any names or recommendations?
[QUOTE=Chily]Is there such a person or persons? Any names or recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Are we talking as in real estate?
Suggest trying the americanrealtydr.com
or juanperdomoCentury 21 websites for an email response/referral.
Crossfire,
First off, I am a fan. You are broaching a subject that touches on the nerves of the punters who believe everyone must be on the same page of paying the least for everything possible or they are "ruining it for everyone". Don't let it bother you. There seems to be even a fear on the boards of overpaying when you see something you want (that Ferrari), not wanting to lose your opportunity to buy it and paying asking price to make sure you get it. I think there is a thought that this activity drives up prices for them and their punting activities.
This may be true if it was the 300RD to 1000RD ST chicas you were talking about. You are not talking about them. The high end girls are already out of the "inexpensive" mongers price range. Your post clearly is addressing those who have a vacation coming up and advising them not to ruin it by going to the wrong hotel, cheaping out on food, and not going for the right quality chica for them to make their vacation the "fantasy" trip they want. All this grief because someone posts (example here) "you are 500RD over market prices". Whoop-tee-doo, a whole $15 US (I did that on purpose-I am an American..).
Crossfire this is good advice for those newbies out there making plans. Don't mess up your trip because you think 800RD is the most you should pay for any chica on this island. Please understand me, I am not talking about throwing around money like drunken sailors either. I think you are trying to make sure if someone has only ONE CHANCE to have a vacation like this to make it the best it can be. Don't cheap out and be miserable. What is wrong with that?
Hey I am not trying to point fingers here. This board should be big enough to handle suggestions for the most frugal of us, to those who choose to go to the $2000 USD per day All Inclusive Adult Vacation places and everything in between. Not everybody is the same, not everyone has the same fantasies, not everyone has the same checkbook, not everyone has the same language skills, etc. The DR offers punting on all levels. From Non-Pro to Semi-Pro to Hardcore-Pro with many variations of those. That is one of the reasons I love it here.
My 2 cents.
IMHO a 10000RD Chica is laughable. It better be Amelia Vega and she'd better be in love with you.
for that kind of money you can set yourself up in a sugar daddy situation with a super hot middle class girl who's not a *****.
but to each their own, eh?
Ponderosa,
I think you understand exactly what I'm saying. What to pay a chica is always a sensitive subject. Just wanted to add some balance to the board(s).
What set me off-- I was reading a post where a guy was asking if the service at La Passions was negoitable because he thinks it cost too much. Then I read an old post about the opening of the Field of Dreams hotels. Some of the Senior members where already complaining that they are not going to pay the $40 per day rate and that they better get some serious discounts or they were going to use thier powers on the forum to bring or not bring them business. This guy had not even seen the hotel or stayed there yet, and he didn't believe the owners deserved the $40 a day they were asking.
I just think these boards need balance.
Chily's revenge = I TLN with 2 of her best friends last night. Intentionally I pay them more money that the other chica. And will TLN them again tonight. Never again with the original chica! Stay tuned for the ''fall out''!
I was in sosua from February 3 till March 3 and I had a great time over all. I stayed at the hotel voramar which is an excellent monger hotel right next to the casino in sosua at the far end of pedro clisante.
Afternoon action starts round about 3 pm in the pedro clisante and at the beach. Just approach any girl you like and if she is in the game she will let you know. At the beach just take a seat at a bar and you won't be alone for a long time especially during the weekend.
At the beach try bar siempre sol which is number 145 cause its owner hermann knows most of the working girls at the beach and their specialities like rimjobs. At night the action takes place at classicos, sosua life bar or latinos club round about 10 pm. The majority of the girls are very dark girls but there are always some really hot girls around too. Just approach any girl you like and make a deal.
I payed for st between 500 and 1000 pesos and for toda la noche 1500 pesos. Don't be afraid of girls asking for 3000 or 4000 pesos especially close to 1 am when the discos are about to close they usually come down to 1000 or 1500 pesos.
I also liked la passion alot and went there several times and got some phone numbers for dates before or after closing time.
After midnight the salida is 500 pesos and during the day 2500 pesos.
For eating out I went most of the time to baileys restaurant which is right next to the banco popular in the center of sosua or la finja restaurant which is situated on the other hand side of the street.
In total I had 8 girls during my time cause once I found a girl who I liked I kept her for several days, this is more confinient than looking for a different girl every day especially in Sosua.
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I was in sosua in the middle of February arriving on a Caribe tours bus from SD. My first learning experience was that the Caribe bus drops you off at the side of the road next to a wall on the main highway. As soon as I got my bag out of the bus a motoconcho was there to help me with it. I'd really intended to take a taxi but I was boxed in there and couldn't see any taxis (or anything else) so I said OK. He balances my 45lbs duffle bag in front of himself and off we go into rush hour traffic on the main highway. After a pleasant quiet 4 hour bus ride that last 5 minutes of terror really lets you know you've arrived. As it turns out the Carribe tours station is accross the street and you can get a taxi there (though I'd pay the 20 peso moto fare just for the guy to transport my bag accross the street in rush hour).
I checked in at the Europa and got the 5 minute course on reprogramming the room safe while I was still praising all the gods for letting me survive the motoconcho ride. It seemed like a sort of Fear Factor IQ test. I barely passed, got to the room, reprogrammed the safe, stowed my gear and chilled.
I had made it to the the center of what had been called "the holy city".
It was near sunset and I took a walk down pedro clisante to the beach. I was fresh meat in this town and the couple of town crack ho's, as well as all the street venders had to take a shot. Much like Boca chica there seem to be people who specialize in fresh foreigners of a certain language. Neither BC or Sosua are dominated by Americans and it takes folks a while to figure out what you are. For those interested in very low end chicas, I had a couple follow me for a block or two rapidly bidding themselves down to 300 pesos. One of them seemed to recover and think maybe she was scaring me off with too low a price and she began to insist that usually she would charge more and she meant that this was just for a BJ.
I've been back for a couple weeks and reread the board and gave some thouight to negotiating in the DR. This really is a more libertarian sort of culture than the US. Negotiation is a much bigger part of life. Everybody has some kind of hustle going all around U. I think that's one reason why so many people think more about going into business here- even when they gave it little thought back home. Another feature is failure. The first world covers up failure better. It seems OK to fail here. Try again. No Biggie. This leads me to thoughts about negotiating for chicas. I read about it but it seemed so unnatural. But then so does negotiating with a taxi or a manicurist. I was puzzled by what the "real" price of chicas was. Getting it through my head that the price of anything here is fluid has taken me some time and effort. Here goes a take a the price of chicas.
The price any chica is willing to take. The market clearing price for her at time t, depends on her mood, her needs and her expectations for earnings otherwise. Most chicas will take a lot less early in the day or late. Early they can be out again and have a shot at making more. Late they are risking making nothing if they reject the offer. This is definitely a buyers market. Most chicas in Sosua will not get even one man on any given day. This is not like some street walker in the Bronx who turns a dozen tricks a day. On the other hand most have had the addictive experience of asking a guy for 3000 pesos and having him just say. OK. It's a memory I'm sure like a slot machine flashing and ringing and all that dinero clanging down in the tray.
Early in the evening I was walking down Pedro see. And got approached by a little fire plug of a chica who was in the company of a tall slender chica I thought was amazing. By this time I'd overcome my sense of politeness enough to straight out say sorry I have no interest in you but your amiga is beautiful. Cool, the fireplug starts negotiating for her friend (who helps a bit too). She wants 3000 pesos. This seems very high to me. It's very early in the evening. Would I buy them a drink? Sure. 2500 pesos. I really would just like to look around and not jump into this. 2000 pesos. Where is your hotel? Europa. A bit of a problema. She hasn't got her cedula. She left it at home in Santo Domingo. Lo Siento. No cedula. No hotel. Wait! She can go with you to the Calypso. Only 300 pesos. Sorry. I was at this point totally backing out because I don't know where Calypso is.even though I've read about it on the board before, and I'm picturing another motoconcho thrill ride down the main highway but his time in the dark, plus I have no idea if this chica is actually over 18. She claims to be 19. I know plenty of 14 year olds who look 19. So I'm shaking my head. 1500 pesos. Total. 1200 for us, 300 for the hotel. Sorry, I can't be sure she's 18. 1300. 1000 pesos for us. I smile. Thank them for their time, and walk out. OK. 1000 pesos total.
I managed to bargain them down from 3000 to 1000 (including hotel) without actually bargaining. Just being my genuine noncommital bashful hesitant self. That plus my firm decision that I wouldn't take a chica who had no ID. In retrospect I realize that this sort of bargaining is brute force. Just refusing the sale but letting the selling keep making offers. I remember it occurring several times in different contexts.
The next day I saw them again, waved, smiled, they smiled back.
Negotiations begin with the question of who will make an offer first. Later I was trying to get a chica I actually wanted (this one also talking mostly through an amiga). I say what do you want. She says how much are you offering. I say Ummmm. 2000 pesos for ST. My warped brain thinking something like. Well that's actually better than they expect to get so it should do it. It actually does kind of stun them a bit. They hesitate and talk. Then one comes back with no, thats not good enough. I say how much? They say. Hesitantly, ahhh 2500? I say OK, 2500.
Reviewing the mental game tape I of course realize what went on. They open with asking me to make the initial bid. It should have been something like 500, but with a smile and an agreement that of course they are worth more but I'm not a rich man. Instead I say 2000. They think, holy shit! The crazy gringo is actually offering us twice what we really hope to get on his first bid! They go into a huddle. If the gringo is this batshit crazy he may do anything but we can't lose him. Still if that's his first bid we've just got to try for more but hey just a little more because we can't let him get away.
As it turned out that chica and another chica that I over-paid both were very worthwhile experiences. The good experience however was despite overpaying rather than because of it. My sense is that the botched negotiation actually started the connection with the chica off on the wrong foot. The fact that I'm a nice guy, I work hard at the language, I try to please the chica in bed, I'm respectful etc eventually turns the chica around but she starts off thinking. What a fool this guy is. I've come to think that if you like a chica you bargain hard- but politely and pleasantly. You show her you are no fool and you are in control. Later if appropriate you show her generosity by your own choice and based on her deserving it.
She says how much are you offering? You give a number. If it's early or late rather than prime time, I think 500 or 600 is good to start. Why? It's half what a decent price should be and thats what's expected. You're communicating that you're willing to spend 1000 to 1200. I had to overcome my initial embarassment at an offer so low. Because it may provoke a show of rejection. It should. Derisive laughter. A toss of the pretty mane of hair. No that's not enough. Well how much would you find sufficient? She's still talking, the negotiation is on. Now she's got to name a number. She doesn't want to go too high since you low balled the opening bid it would just signal that you really are very far apart. 2500? That puts the mid point. You double, she halves- a bit over un mil where you expected.
The thing I had to get past is that at least in Sosua or the main DR mongering areas this is an everyday market transaction. It's not illegal or embarassing or hidden in itself. Participants do want to hide the details of their transactions for the same reason that bids are typically very privelidged information in the US. It's not in the least bit secret that you are taking or giving bids though the details of the bids themselves are quite secret. Similarly chicas are entirely open about the fact of the negotiation. Though they often don't want others to hear the details.
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Talk about hitting a nail on the head!
Marc you have discovered the "Dominican" mindset. It takes a bit to get your head around it, especially if you are from a first world country. The mental games that go on in the locals minds as well as the Domincan experience are written out in your report.
Great post!
The Plaza Europa is the default hotel in Sosua that I'd always read about on both mongering boards and DR1. It's definitely in the middle of the action and it's competently managed. Very large rooms with full kitchenette facilities. Good if noisy AC that you control completely. At Casa Marina for example and at many other AI's (as well as some smaller hotels) they have a wall slot you have to place your key card in to make the AC work. It prevents you from leaving the AC on when you are out of the room. At the Casa Marina at least, the AC kicks out whenever the power fluctuates or the planta has to come on line. That means you often wake up without AC and have to get up and reset it. Not that I want to leave the AC on all the time but it is a nice luxury sometimes to be able to return to a pleasantly cool room.
In five days I never heard other guests in their rooms or had any problems. The hotel provides alarm clocks but without battery back-up and as the power will frequently go out briefly at night it will always be flashing 12:00. They also have phones in the rooms and will do wake-up calls so it doesn't matter much.
I took advantage of the fridge and microwave and went to the playero supermarket when I got in. It really is a major convenience to me not to have to go out to eat all the time as much because service is so slow as anything. I also bought a fifth of Brugal Anejo at the super super - about RD$200 I think. It was more than half full when I left so it went with my tips and presents for the maid. Beer is definitely no longer cheap here and my frugal mongering instincts rebel at paying as much for a few beers as I know I could potentially pay for a decent campo chica.
Walking out of the lobby if you turn left on Pedro C. you pass a moto rental, a bank ATM, an outdoor chicken place, and a small grocery market (bigger than a colmado) before seeing a big strip/massage place [which I already forgot the name of] on the other side of the street and a block past it La Passion massage. The chicken place is so informal looking I thought at first it was a sort of family picnic shelter. It's not and it provides good cheap grilled chicken. Past La Passion there is very little of interest for a long way on Pedro C. all the way to High Carribean.
La Passion is a fun well run business. Decent looking chicas - I'd be willing to do any of them, pleasant bar and not much pressure. Lots of funny signs about blow jobs. RD$1000 straight pricing for an Ok attempt at a massage, a decent tease and some OK preliminary head followed by a mostly hand job to completion. The chica I picked had a very nice set of tetas which she dangled and moved very pleasantly while massaging my chest and stomach from above my head. If I was a regular I think I would follow the lead of some posters here and get more directive offering a small propina of 200-300 for oral I'd consider better -including CIM which was not included automatically.
I like Sosua enough that I keep thinking about how I would do things if I lived here. La Passions wouldn't be all that frequent a stop for me but I'd do it on occasion for convenience like McDonalds.
La Passions isn't all that flashy. Actually I think I stopped and had a few beers there in 2004 and talked to a german guy for at least an hour without ever noticing that they even did massages or BJs or were that place with a lot of stuff on the internet. The place closer to europa just down from passions is much more obviously a sex industry joint. It has signs claiming strippers and massages. It just seemed too much of a flashy rip off - though to be fair the one time I walked right past it I had just been pretty thoroughly drained of leche by the young masseuse at La Passion.
Turn right out of the lobby and you hit the famous Domino's/Four Roses bars right across the side street. Friendly popular places that seem hard to not to become a regular at. Great for watching the street scene flow past.
I really got to like one of the bartenders and tried to pay her salida on my last day but she said the new owner doesn't let them leave. I was shocked. This was a breach of customary practice! She was very happy to get together after work but this was a friday and that was after 2am and I had to get up about 5:30 to catch the bus back to SD so too bad. If I was in the situation again I'd just have her come over after work and sleep until then but I was a bit nervous about pulling off my big travel day since I'd never done quite a few of the elements.
As it turns out I was too conservative about it. It's not that hard to take Carribe tours back to SD and a taxi to the airport in time for an afternoon flight at Las Americas. The desk will call a taxi, the taxi takes 5 minutes. There are people there even at 6am in the dark. It is a bit weird to get off by the side of the road in almost total darkness with all of your luggage and try to figure out what to do next. Even though it was blacked out, there is a little station right there. There was a ticket window with a clerk who had a candle and a pen and filled out my ticket. There was a waiting room with seats but it seemed a bit stuffy so I sat on my bag outside with some other people. I was too conservative. The buses really are on schedule.
Earlier in the week I had booked a deep sea fishing excursion with one of the tour companies (they all seem to offer the same tours) and the hotel pick-up missed me. They called the hotel desk after a while and I agreed to catch a cab to Puerto Plata to meet the boat. The taxi I got had just been sitting outside across the street for a very long time. I'd thought of taxi's as expensive - as they are for direct trips like the one I took to PP - 1000 pesos , $30, which is half of what the whole fishing trip cost and that included beer/sandwiches and hotel pickup and delivery. Talking to the taxi driver on the way I asked what he'd charge to drive around locally for say 6 or 8 hours - Sosua, caberete, Monte llano, on a fee plus gas basis. He though about it and said RD$500. I was surprised. It made sense though. As I mentioned, I'd noticed him sitting around outside for a very long time. I think he was there from 8am until 1pm when we left without a fare. If I could give him a profit of 500 after gas that was worthwhile. His time sitting around or guideservices were not costly. In the future I'll try to negotiate car with driver services from taxis. It wouldn't cost much more than a rental car and doesn't have the liability issues. In time I'd have a couple of phone numbers of taxi's for all day lease. It seems a bit odd but taxi's for specific jaunts are quite expensive but taxi's hired to sit around and wait on you all day dedicated to your sole use could be cheap. I suspect the same economic logic applies to pussy.
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The truth about negotiating in the DR is that once you speak the language and do not act like a tourista and you are genuine and nice with a little sence opf humor and a dont take me for a ride attitude (normally refered to as "Tigre") the price drops by 50%. I have noticed that. I have been there enough times to know.
I just came back from 3 weeks in the DR and will be going back there again in another 2 weeks.
Anyone interested in staying in an apartment /resort (chica friendly) between Cabarete and Sosua from March 17,2007 and March 24,2007. One bedroom, Kitchen,bath,pullout bed for your guest and many other amenities. I double booked two apartments when I only needed one. I speak fluent spanish. $250 dollars for the week.
If anyone interested, please PM GLROBIN
Guy's can you tell me is the Garden chica friendly?
[QUOTE=Glrobin]Anyone interested in staying in an apartment /resort (chica friendly) between Cabarete and Sosua from March 17,2007 and March 24,2007. One bedroom, Kitchen,bath,pullout bed for your guest and many other amenities. I double booked two apartments when I only needed one. I speak fluent spanish. $250 dollars for the week.
If anyone interested, please PM GLROBIN[/QUOTE]
seems like a decent price
[QUOTE=Bigup]Guy's can you tell me is the Garden chica friendly?[/QUOTE]The New Garden Hotel is chica friendly and a nice place to stay.
[QUOTE=Bigup]Guy's can you tell me is the Garden chica friendly?[/QUOTE]Yes, very.
[QUOTE=Bigup]Guy's can you tell me is the Garden chica friendly?[/QUOTE]
Yes, The New Garden is chica-friendly
Slip the guard 100 pesos. No problems.
Great advice dude. Especially of she's only 16. Yeah, we need alot more people like you on this board. Reckless, careless and cheap. Just what we need around here. A hundred pesons isn't even two bucks!! You must be hanging with some real stunners.
That is a normal bride to a security guard when the chica, 18 to 35, does not have docs. Which is common! What the chica is paid is negotiated between us. And is a lot more than 100 pesos!
Why wouldn't someone working who is 18-35 not have the card?
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse]Why wouldn't someone working who is 18-35 not have the card?[/QUOTE]Maybe she's Haitian and she's in the country illegally?
I don't ask for ID and I don't bribe security guards either. If she's hot, looks legal, and she's selling herself, I am going to take her to my hotel and tap that ass!
Nevertheless, last month I was happy when "My Spinner" voluntarily took out her ID to show me. I'm glad that she didn't try to make me look like a fool or a liar.
[b]A Hard Dick Has No Conscience,[/b]
Helpmann :cool:
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse]Why wouldn't someone working who is 18-35 not have the card?[/QUOTE]
If they don't have their papers then they need to go to Santo Domingo and pay a lawyer in order to get their cedula.
Its not cheap.
Hey guys,
I'm heading to Dominican after 8 years whoring in Asia. By reading the posts seems like Sosua is the place (will be there for 10 days in March for the first time).
If someone would finish the sentence below would be appreciated:
In Thailand: Pattaya, Walking street...
In The Phillipines: Orchid Inn, Angeles City...
In The Dominican Republic: ________________
The majority of haitians and many of haitian ancestry born in the DR do not have cedulas or any documents. A significant number of dominicans over 18 don't have them either. Getting a cedula depends on having a valid birth certificate and many of these people don't have one.It's not just a matter of getting a replacement (which isn't easy). They never had one. There was a recent scandal involving issuing false birth certificates to get cedulas and payments were quite high - in the hundreds to thousands of dollars per certificate range. I've talked to haitian chicas who not only don't have a cedula or birth certificate but actually don't know their birthday or exactly how old they are. One of these chicas had a daughter who was a teenager and was unquestionably an adult of normal intelligence. She knew her age within a year or two in relation to her siblings but nobody tracked birthdays when she was a child and she just didn't know.
This explains why many don't have docs. The % is staggering. Any apology from the most critical Puerto?
Pedro Clisante is the walking street...
[QUOTE=Ass N Grass]Hey guys,
I'm heading to Dominican after 8 years whoring in Asia. By reading the posts seems like Sosua is the place (will be there for 10 days in March for the first time).
If someone would finish the sentence below would be appreciated:
In Thailand: Pattaya, Walking street...
In The Phillipines: Orchid Inn, Angeles City...
In The Dominican Republic: ________________[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]The New Garden Hotel is chica friendly and a nice place to stay.[/QUOTE]Do they require Cedula from the chicas at New Garden? How much do they charge for an A/C room?
[QUOTE=WSJ3]Pedro Clisante is the walking street...[/QUOTE]
He wants Classicos, Sousa
or just Pedro Clisantre, Sousa
Appreciate the info. Will be at one or both of these places and find a good hotel with pool once I arrive. Hopefully can hook up with someone at that time to shoot the shit. Adios.
[QUOTE=Ass N Grass]Appreciate the info. Will be at one or both of these places and find a good hotel with pool once I arrive. Hopefully can hook up with someone at that time to shoot the shit. Adios.[/QUOTE]
Rocky's for breakfast and the Shark Bar for early evening drinks and dinner - you will find plenty of fellow mongers to talk to at both.
Voramar is a monger hotel, while Las Canas has a huge pool and is chica friendly.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Rocky's for breakfast and the Shark Bar for early evening drinks and dinner - you will find plenty of fellow mongers to talk to at both.[/QUOTE]
I can't stand walking past Rocky's! 'Cause next door used to be my beloved "Cowgirl Bar" - now is closed! I was there last week and peaked in. The Cowgirl Bar is "gutted" incl. the fixtures - only thing left is the paintings of cowgirls on the walls.
I heard it was purchased by an American woman, and she has big plans for it?! Sounds promising! :)
I realize, of course that it was a dump with only marginally attractive girls, but it was MY FAVORITE - dump with only marginally attractive girls! :D
I would Bachata dance there with the "house chicas" for hours to the sounds of Joey Veras, Elvis Martinez and Frankie Reyes! I even slept in one of their upstairs rooms (room 4) for 2 nights.
(in any case, Rocky's is located right next door)
I will be in the area within the next couple of weeks. I'm lodging in Puerto Plata, but I was thinking of making a day trip to Sosua.
What day should I come down?
Can I expect to find some nice talent during the day?
I want to go to Classico's one night, but with all the advice against traveling late at night between the two towns, I'm a bit reserved.
Any help is appreciated.
Ford, I sympathize about the loss of Cowgirls. Are there any other places the chicas live above that are kind of modest and friendly like that?
Whats that new bar across the street like?
There are chicas on Pedro Clisante and quite a few on the beach during the day, both at the small bars and strolling along.You would have to get a room anyway so you might consider staying over rather than returning at night. La Passion is open days and would have several chicas to choose from 1000 pesos massage and BBBJ fixed price. A taxi back at night would cost as much as a room at rocky's for the night.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Ford, I sympathize about the loss of Cowgirls. Are there any other places the chicas live above that are kind of modest and friendly like that?
Whats that new bar across the street like?[/QUOTE]
The name of the new bar directly across the street is escaping me. (and I was there just a few days ago too) But its real disappointing. When I was there they had Bachata music blaring from speakers behind the bar, but evidenty a few of the waitresses think they were actually hired to be REAL waitresses!:(
I got a fairly cold reaction when I steered the conversation with one girl towards returning to my condominium for the night. The place is stylish, but was largely empty and didn't have much energy.
At least that was my experience there, I'd be interested to know if someone took a girl out of there and what there experiences were.
Who will be in Sosua this weekend? I will be there from Sat-Mon.
[QUOTE=Escort King]He wants Classicos, Sousa
or just Pedro Clisantre, Sousa[/QUOTE]
It would probably be best if he hit Classicos...pretty hard to miss out on the chicas in that spot EK...
Ass N Grass,
Just don’t expect Sosua meat market to be anywhere closer to that of Pattaya: Sosua’s mongering scene is infinitely smaller, but you can still have a good time.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]Ass N Grass,
Just don’t expect Sosua meat market to be anywhere closer to that of Pattaya: Sosua’s mongering scene is infinitely smaller, but you can still have a good time.[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me if cedula is required at New Garden? Thanks for your help.
Way more than I was finding in my last home of 2 years, Buenos Aires.
I sometimes contribute to the New York City forum. I would like to know if I am better off at Villa Brigette (possibly the Stuckman property referred to by DrVisiter) at $240 for 3 nights, or at the Europa for $116? It is always nice to save a few dollars, but for me a nice trouble free weekend is most important. Also, will anybody be in town 4/13-4/16?
New Garden does not require cedulas, but they do sign-in chicas. This is for your protection as well as theirs.
[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]I sometimes contribute to the New York City forum. I would like to know if I am better off at Villa Brigette (possibly the Stuckman property referred to by DrVisiter) at $240 for 3 nights, or at the Europa for $116? It is always nice to save a few dollars, but for me a nice trouble free weekend is most important. Also, will anybody be in town 4/13-4/16?[/QUOTE]It's a matter of preference. I like staying in the villas while I'm there. Personally, I consider the Europa unpleasant, to be kind. If you want a decent chica-friendly hotel, try the New Garden.
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]Alert. Don't rent anything from the stuckmans living in Playa Laguna they are not to be trusted. I left 10 days early it was that bad with a lawyer we hired who brought along a police escort. They have a unsavory reputation in the community.[/QUOTE]What type of problem did you have?
[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]I sometimes contribute to the New York City forum. I would like to know if I am better off at Villa Brigette (possibly the Stuckman property referred to by DrVisiter) at $240 for 3 nights, or at the Europa for $116? It is always nice to save a few dollars, but for me a nice trouble free weekend is most important. Also, will anybody be in town 4/13-4/16?[/QUOTE]I've been many times to Villa Brigette - had great times and never problems.
Hotel EUROPA is located on the main strip in Sosua - also nice, but basic rooms and noisy.
[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]I sometimes contribute to the New York City forum. I would like to know if I am better off at Villa Brigette (possibly the Stuckman property referred to by DrVisiter) at $240 for 3 nights, or at the Europa for $116? It is always nice to save a few dollars, but for me a nice trouble free weekend is most important. Also, will anybody be in town 4/13-4/16?[/QUOTE]I've been may times to VILLA BREGITTE - always great times and never problems.
HOTEL EUROPE is not bad - but rooms are basic and noisy.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]Ass N Grass,
Just don’t expect Sosua meat market to be anywhere closer to that of Pattaya: Sosua’s mongering scene is infinitely smaller, but you can still have a good time.[/QUOTE]And Sosua is heaven for butt lovers.
[QUOTE=Bob Belez]New Garden does not require cedulas, but they do sign-in chicas. This is for your protection as well as theirs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, Bob!
I am comfortable with that.
Okay, fellas. I'm in the stretch run. I will be in the area within 10 days. I will make sure to provide detailed reports and pics of my experiences.
I think I have a pretty good idea of where to go and what to do, now I'm just trying to make the most of it. If you are currently in Sosua, I would like your input. As usual, any assistance is greatly appreciated.
What should I expect as far as quantity/quality as compared to the high season?
What would be the best day of the week for an early afternoon visit? Are there any days to avoid?
Which night ,other than Saturday, could I expect to have a decent time? Are there any nights to avoid?
Thanks,
AH
[QUOTE=Bob Belez]New Garden does not require cedulas, but they do sign-in chicas. This is for your protection as well as theirs.[/QUOTE]
That can be risky unless this is someone you have known for a while... there is a website with cedulas listed I remember hearing about....
[QUOTE=Bert Bongo]And Sosua is heaven for butt lovers.[/QUOTE]
Sousa is heaven in the Caribbean.... there are a few other spots on the planet with their own little heavens
[QUOTE=Escort King]That can be risky unless this is someone you have known for a while... there is a website with cedulas listed I remember hearing about....[/QUOTE]Hi Escort King!
What do you mean exactly by "risky"? Does that mean that I might have trouble with the girl or the management of the hotel? Please, clarify a bit. Thanks
[QUOTE=Bert Bongo]And Sosua is heaven for butt lovers.[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree with this, BRASIL IS HEAVEN FOR BUTT LOVERS HAVE YOU BEEN TO 4X4 and seen that place dude?
[quote=papi0170]hi escort king!
what do you mean exactly by "risky"? does that mean that i might have trouble with the girl or the management of the hotel? please, clarify a bit. thanks[/quote]
don't want to risk getting caught with an ****d girl.... third world prisons are a *****. also pics of **** girls can get you in trouble at customs coming back to the us...
plus most places want the cedulla and trying to bribe someone when the girl is **** is a flag... if the person is obviously of age then you may have less of a headache.
[QUOTE=Patrk39]What type of problem did you have?[/QUOTE]We rented a 2 bedroom beach house (1/4 mile to beach) fo the month . Another couple were to join us mid Jan which would make a total of 4 people. We werer told we could not have more than 2 people in the unit. Check the dr1 web site for more
Having been to sosua in a while is the Sousa Palace hotel still there.
The building is still there and John has it on the market. It hasn't been operated as a hotel for quite a while.
I snapped this photo last week. "Dominican" John is a friend and is still one of the nicest and most stand-up guys I've ever met - in my many trips through Latin America.
He's out of the hotel business after being "worn down" by cheap gringos and users. I can't blame him at all.
I wish him well on his future business ventures. :)
Is there a internet site for the New Garden?
Inaddition what is the best chica friendly hotel in Sosua, that is clean, AC, safe in room and no car necessary for 2 week stay?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Ford]I snapped this photo last week. "Dominican" John is a friend and is still one of the nicest and most stand-up guys I've ever met - in my many trips through Latin America.
He's out of the hotel business after being "worn down" by cheap gringos and users. I can't blame him at all.
I wish him well on his future business ventures. :)[/QUOTE]You are right, to many low class mongers.
And this was my last destination in Sosua - more decent compare to the palace - but 100% girl friendly.
Can you imagine - together with a chica in a hammock and the beach few meters away.
That place looks great. Where is it!
[QUOTE=Chily]That place looks great. Where is it![/QUOTE]Actually I wanted to keep the secret to myself - anyway here we go.
I've forgotten the name of their homepage - but check "GOOGLE".
Keyword : "sosua rentals" or "vacation rentals Dominican Republic"
The page shows always up on no. 1
Good luck
[QUOTE=Chily]That place looks great. Where is it![/QUOTE]When you have a chance Joe, give us a review of the place.
I Hope to Return to DR in a Week!
Helpmann ;)
[url]www.sosuarentals.com[/url]
Well I just came back from Sosua last week.
I stayed in an apartment.
My friends stayed in an AI(It was their 1st time there and I had warned them)
Anyhow I myself had problems visiting them as they would not let me in without a wrist band. Much less them bringing girls back to the room.
MY buddy had to pay the guy at the front off; go and come back at a certain time during the night.
And STILL was woken up at 7am by the same fella telling him the girl had to leave NOW! They ended up getting separate rooms at plaza europa just so they could bring girls back. Europa only asks for ID.
They are girl friendly but be warned don't let them catch you with
A) more than one girl
Or be) having your friend use your room
We committed both offenses and was charged extra by the pissed off dutch woman at the front desk.
I have stayed at other hotels in the past and the only one that seems to have a problem with women is casa marina
However I will onl do apatment rentals from now on this way if the woman doesnt have her Id on her it isn't a problem.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]When you have a chance Joe, give us a review of the place.
I Hope to Return to DR in a Week!
Helpmann ;)
[url]www.sosuarentals.com[/url][/QUOTE]We have been there last December with a group of 5 single mens and rented 2 beach houses and a 1 bedroom apartment.
Concrete queensize beds, aircon, wireless internet connection, free cellphones and few meters to the beach.
In the evening we lit the BBQ by the pool and fried chicken wings together with the girls.
Also we ordered a private masseuse and we received a relaxing massage on the terrace of the beach house.
Meanwhile our girls served us "HENNESSY" on the rocks - it was a fantastic experience.
The only downpart the villas and apartments are 2 miles away from the main strip in Sosua.
Sorry for my bad englisch - I am from Norway
Joe
[quote=escort king]don't want to risk getting caught with an ****d girl.... third world prisons are a *****. also pics of **** girls can get you in trouble at customs coming back to the us.
plus most places want the cedulla and trying to bribe someone when the girl is **** is a flag... if the person is obviously of age then you may have less of a headache.[/quote]thanks escort king for the explanation.
i don't think i have to worry about that. i don't do **** girls. i am more into 20 + or so. i even do 30 and something in some cases. also, the girls i will take there are girls i have known for 2 or 3 years. i have never had any trouble with them. i leave them in my room and go to playero or other places. they don't touch a thing. thanks again.
[QUOTE=Ford]I snapped this photo last week. "Dominican" John is a friend and is still one of the nicest and most stand-up guys I've ever met - in my many trips through Latin America.
He's out of the hotel business after being "worn down" by cheap gringos and users. I can't blame him at all.
I wish him well on his future business ventures. :)[/QUOTE]I stopped by the Palace several times. Never stayed there. Never had the chance to meet John. I have heard a lot of good things about him. Good luck John!
Would I be correct in the following assumptions for a ST?
Sosua 1000 pesos
Puerto Plata 1500 pesos
I don't mind paying more, but I don't want to flamed by the board. Actually, I will take back. If she has the right combination of attitude and looks, I will probably have a difficult time with "negotiations". LOL
[QUOTE=World Jockey]Well I just came back from Sosua last week.
I stayed in an apartment.
My friends stayed in an AI(It was their 1st time there and I had warned them)
Anyhow I myself had problems visiting them as they would not let me in without a wrist band. Much less them bringing girls back to the room.
MY buddy had to pay the guy at the front off; go and come back at a certain time during the night.
....... I will onl do apatment rentals from now on this way if the woman doesnt have her Id on her it isn't a problem.[/QUOTE]
......all true WJ! I'm glad you had a nice time. :)
I've said many times on this website - All-in's are "all-out" if you want to bring guests back.
There are alot of nice condo complexes on the north coast - you don't need to go the "all-in" route to have nice accomodations.
You are correct that RD$1000 is the round number that probably on balance is acceptable to most chicas much of the time as a result of negotiating. Some will accept it readily.
Keep in mind that means: if she says how much are you willing to give and you say RD$1000 she'll say NO, that's not enough.
Because negotiation is expected she will tend to ask for more than she expects to get and assume you are willing to pay more than you first offer.
If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. You also have to be convincing that you're willing to walk. She knows your interested or you wouldn't be negotiating. If your drooling is forming a puddle at her feet she'll have some doubt's about your resolve.
If you choose not to get into negotiating and just pay whatever is asked you will both pay significantly more than un mil and make an initial impression with the chica that you are a fool and a sucker.
PP is part of the same market as Sosua and prices cover the same range for basically the same chicas. If you mean the prices for BB's or Crystal etc that's specific to the venue not the chicas. I think 1500 is a more or less standard price ST at BB's. If you met the same chica elsewhere she would likely negotiate as above.
Personally I don't see any point in negotiating anything but ST this way. I see ST as a kind of sample date to see if she's really any good past looks and basic manner. If she's not impressive you meet the ST contract and say adios. If she's a real gem you can always freely give her regalos y propinas and any negotiation for longer stay or future dates will be conducted more affectionately and easily as pillow talk.
[quote=escort king]don't want to risk getting caught with an ****d girl.... third world prisons are a *****. also pics of **** girls can get you in trouble at customs coming back to the us.
plus most places want the cedulla and trying to bribe someone when the girl is **** is a flag... if the person is obviously of age then you may have less of a headache.[/quote]+1
my 2nd to last day in sosua younger girl started talking to me not too far from my room.
i asked her how old she was and she said 18.
i asked her if she was going to the club later and she was like i can't get in i said the entry age is 18.
busted
and she knew i busted her by the look on her face.
she admitted to being only 16.
i high tailed it.
not only can you be prosecuted in the 3rd world country as you said you get serve time up here also.
not worth it imo.
plenty nice looking legal girls there.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. [/QUOTE]Great advice, but it depends on the time and place, in Classico if you offer RD$500 you propably get a slap in the face before she walks away and point you to all the other girls as a cheap grongo ! Might never get a chance of the counter offer.
Things are changing fast in Sosua, in 1.5 year I noticed the prices now start from RD$2000/3000 in clubs at peak time - to be fair I never paid those and negotiated but 1.5 year ago RD$1500/2000 was the starting price.
I blame pimps (chulos) for this, the so called Dominican boyfriends who now more and more hang around bars and tell the girls not to settle for less than so and so, I guess they are so loaded they say "heck, I (or my friend) can do you for RD$500..." !?
[QUOTE=Helpmann]When you have a chance Joe, give us a review of the place.
I Hope to Return to DR in a Week!
Helpmann ;)
[url]www.sosuarentals.com[/url][/QUOTE]Check out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonest
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]Check out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonest[/QUOTE]"Dr Visitor"nothing else as a childish scammer.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]You are correct that RD$1000 is the round number that probably on balance is acceptable to most chicas much of the time as a result of negotiating. Some will accept it readily.
Keep in mind that means: if she says how much are you willing to give and you say RD$1000 she'll say NO, that's not enough.
Because negotiation is expected she will tend to ask for more than she expects to get and assume you are willing to pay more than you first offer.
If you want to pay RD$1000 you should first offer RD$500 and fully expect to be flatly rejected - then made a counter offer. You also have to be convincing that you're willing to walk. She knows your interested or you wouldn't be negotiating. If your drooling is forming a puddle at her feet she'll have some doubt's about your resolve.
If you choose not to get into negotiating and just pay whatever is asked you will both pay significantly more than un mil and make an initial impression with the chica that you are a fool and a sucker.
PP is part of the same market as Sosua and prices cover the same range for basically the same chicas. If you mean the prices for BB's or Crystal etc that's specific to the venue not the chicas. I think 1500 is a more or less standard price ST at BB's. If you met the same chica elsewhere she would likely negotiate as above.
Personally I don't see any point in negotiating anything but ST this way. I see ST as a kind of sample date to see if she's really any good past looks and basic manner. If she's not impressive you meet the ST contract and say adios. If she's a real gem you can always freely give her regalos y propinas and any negotiation for longer stay or future dates will be conducted more affectionately and easily as pillow talk.[/QUOTE]Sorry for my ignorance but can you break down what st bb crystal. Means
Oh well I cn agree with you on the price negotiations it really boils down to who is more desperate and needy
The little fella in my pants or her purse. I usually average 1mil. 1500 only once did I pay 2500 and that was because the woman really really really REALLY turned me on. I doubt I would ever do that again on the flip side of that there was a girl I had been with on oher trips down there that was really doing bad ($ wise) she actually told me $200 pesos
Yea you read right $200. This girl is a mute deaf (yea laugh all you want fellas. She is a hottie LOL) and can't really communicate I had to have her punch the number in my cell phone just to make sure she was really saying $200
And on the total flip side you can find a girl that really likes you an asks for nothing. My friends first night and 1st time in DR he met a girl that only wanted him and cab fare to go home.
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]Check out Sousa Rentals on dr1. They are a ripoff & very dishonest[/QUOTE]Believe me, I've read the Villa Brigitte reviews on DR1. Nevertheless, I'm always curious to hear a new opinion, particularly when it contradicts another.
-Helpmann :)
ST BB I just meant Short Time at Black Beard's. People often have in mind Blackbeard's when they refer to Puerto Plata - PP. Cristal is the strip club/casa near long beach that's higher priced and pitched to guys at playa dorada AI's. PP is a big place with price ranges the same as sosua. BB's is more a no bargaining needed fixed price venue.
[QUOTE=Joe Hermer]"Dr Visitor"nothing else as a childish scammer.[/QUOTE]The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.[/QUOTE]You are certainly entitled to your opinions (as I am entitled to disagree with them and have differing ones) but "Villa Brigitte" is marketed as a value location and delivers what it promises - quality vacation villas and apartments for adults. When somebody run a business over 12 years in Sosua with great success – I don’t think they can be “dishonest……..”
This is based on personal experience, too.
Hey Fella,
Im going back to Sosua 5/26---6/3 and I been reading the update on all your posts. It will be helpful for the Mongers who confuse with the 1,000, 1,500..ect pesos.
Will someone explain what a 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100 US dollars mean in pesos. I forgot.
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Hi Man Can Bang,
Forum contributors rarely provide the conversion rates because foreign currency rates change all the time.
You rbest bet is to lookup the current conversion rate at any one of a number of websites that are designed for this purpose.
Here's a few popular ones:
[url]http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic[/url]
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/[/url]
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/americas_currencies.html[/url]
Thnaks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]The scammers are the stuckmann's. This is based on personal experience . They are overpriced (check out other places) lack customer service in addition to being untrustworthy. Ask around before you make your statements.[/QUOTE]Who is dishonest?
In the DR1 forum you stated that you rented a condo.
In another forum now you stated that you rented a beach house.
DrVisitor, don’t waste our time and get lost.
Lets close this thread, we are here to discuss other stuff.
Update, my Haiti hottie has been very pissed because I fuk many other chicas. Finally we have reached an accomodation--- I can only fuk her or her 4 friends! No newbies. Yeah right!
I use this converter [url]www.gocurrency.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Bert Bongo]Who is dishonest?
In the DR1 forum you stated that you rented a condo.
In another forum now you stated that you rented a beach house.
DrVisitor, don’t waste our time and get lost.
Lets close this thread, we are here to discuss other stuff.[/QUOTE]It is advertized as a beach house but is 1/4 mile to the beach so I call it a condo now.
The point stands the place is overpriced & stuckmann's are dishonest & do not know the first thing about Customer Service. Get with the facts not unfounded proclmations.
What do you want to discuss?
I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
Varamar
What I cant find is any website to book these hotel or any reference to what these hotels cost per night or per week.
do any of them have Wi-Fi internet access.
A detailed report would be good on these three hotels giving:
price
location which is best for action!
Facilities, safe, internet, Wi-fi, non smoking restaurant or bar, GF or joiners fee for guest, AC,
distance from air port and transport available. read taxi about 1000dr
what about bus.
how do i book? anyone got email address?
any help appreciated!
Anyone with recommendations for other hotels!
BF
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
Varamar
What I cant find is any website to book these hotel or any reference to what these hotels cost per night or per week.
do any of them have Wi-Fi internet access.
A detailed report would be good on these three hotels giving:
price
location which is best for action!
Facilities, safe, internet, Wi-fi, non smoking restaurant or bar, GF or joiners fee for guest, AC,
distance from air port and transport available. read taxi about 1000dr
what about bus.
how do i book? anyone got email address?
any help appreciated!
Anyone with recommendations for other hotels!
BF[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=365822&postcount=202[/url]
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have been reading the forum regarding hotels.
the three hotel that appear faverite are:
Europa
New Gardens
Varamar[/QUOTE]This should get you started.
-Helpmann :)
[url]http://hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html[/url]
[url]http://www.voramar-sosua.com/indexenglish.htm[/url]
Back to mongering and away from personal accusations.
Prices really depend on your formula: that is, what do you look like, how much Spanish you speak, and how are your negotiating skills? I was in the DR last month and I got the same deaf mute in a previous post.- not for the outrageous price of $150/200, but for $60 and a ride home in the morning. (And yes.- she is very sexy) She even wanted me to come up to meet her kid.- all of course, because I'm a relatively young, athletic American who speaks Spanish. The next night I had a girl for free. Mostly because I played hard to get, danced with her all night, and paid for the part-timer hotel.
I've been to the DR at least 20 times; I've been quiet on the board but I have a lot of tips and here are a couple of my survival tips. I'll give more later:
1. STICK TO THE NORTH COAST: Sosua is good for "spoon fed" mongers who care about their wallet. Here are my ratings for the major cities in the DR (in descending order):
Quality of Women: Santiago, Santo Domingo, Puerto Plata, Sosua, and finally Boca Chica: Not to say that Boca Chica is weak by any means (certainly not as weak as the Boca Chica board on ISG seems to indicate), but this is still the DR and the women are still Dominican. The quality is good, but not as good you would perhaps see in Santo Domingo or Santiago. Santiago is the haven for beautiful lighter-skinned women, but availability is more limited.
Availability of Women: Sosua, Boca Chica, Santo Domingo, Puerto Plata, and Santiago: The women are in Sosua are by far the most accessible in all of the country. Sure, there are night clubs in Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata, but virtually every woman you see in Sosua is available for action. Boca Chica and Puerto Plata have discos where almost all women are available and Santiago has its share of other venues. However, the venues in Santiago have come under scrutiny in recent months and are not as open as you may think. I favor the casinos in SD (particularly the Jaragua) but by far, the best place for open-air day and night time mongering is Sosua.
Pricing: Sosua, Boca Chica, Puerto Plata, Santiago, Santo Domingo: Just like any other market-driven economy, DR women operate on supply and demand in most cases. You will find that prices in Sosua can be much less than those in Santo Domingo. But trust me, in some locations.- the able monger can get away with 1000 pesos or less in the right situation. Many advertise that they have gotten free play in the DR, but many can be discounted as bravado. Just my humble opinion. Of course, I fall in this category, but I look.- and sound Dominican so my situation is different from the typical American.
2. BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. You have to remember that almost every Dominican has the somewhat troublesome impression that All Americans have a pocket full of money and a bucket of gold at home. This is troublesome because they expect you to pay the retail price for all transactions. I took a motoconcho once and the driver told me he would charge me 300 pesos for a 100 peso ride because I was American and could afford it. This is how many Dominicans think. So, while you want to represent a good, clean-cut, and fairly well-dressed image.- don't over do it. It can get you in trouble for a Dominican (or Haitian) who doesn't know where their next meal is coming from. Also, you DO NOT WANT TO GO TO A DOMINICAN JAIL. There are no beds or meals.- people in Dominican jails have to rely on friends or family to bring in meals every day. Otherwise, it's a dog-eat-dog world. And if you have not friends/family in the DR.-- Forgetit. I won't go into the prison situation for you individuals who like "younger" women. Just be careful and represent our country well.
More later. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
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Europa & New Garden are in town near the action. Voramar is further out and requires taking motos a lot. You can review the websites for most details.
All are guest friendly. At Europa a fee is charged for more than 1 guest at a time. I know Europa has electronic in-room safe at no extra charge, good a/c with no special card control, cable, back-up power. The restaurant, Quixotes, has wi-fi but I don't think the hotel does. You can book Europa or Voramar by email no deposit.
In season they are about $50 a night, off season - after April 15th or so they are less.
The Gregorio Luperon airport (POP) is less than 10km away. $15-20 taxi, or walk to the highway .5km and get a GuaGua or publico for 50 pesos or so.
Check out DR1 or google it.
The voramar seems decent...cheap...and safe..Does any of you gents know the inroom safe is large enough to keep a Laptop??
The car rentals are Cheap!!!!!!!!! what a treat compared to Santo Domingo!!! wow
I assume the Voramar is chica friendly???;-)
TIA
Johan
Stayed there several times. Henk +Harold will treat you right. Say Ben(Chily) spoke highly about the hotel.---------------------------New Garden is ok, but very ''clicky'' Italian. Food service is very slow. Hotel very convenient. ------------Europa=forget.
[QUOTE=Chily]Stayed there several times. Henk +Harold will treat you right. Say Ben(Chily) spoke highly about the hotel.---------------------------New Garden is ok, but very ''clicky'' Italian. Food service is very slow. Hotel very convenient. ------------Europa=forget.[/QUOTE]
Henk and Harold??? Is the Voramar run by Dutch or Germans???:-)
If I am corerct...do they also offer a pick up service at POP airport??
thanks Chily...i think i will book today and stay a week or so before i am off to SD.
Johan
Once i have booked flight, I will book one hotel for a few days and then move around and try them all!
If anyone has the web site for new garden hotel, it would be good but i can look once i get there, so no big problem.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Once i have booked flight, I will book one hotel for a few days and then move around and try them all!
If anyone has the web site for new garden hotel, it would be good but i can look once i get there, so no big problem.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.a3tnet.com/bluedolphin.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.travellero.it/hotel_673[/url]
[url]http://www.voramar-sosua.com/english/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.oneoceanplace.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/pla...titel-engl.html[/url]
[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.sosuapalace.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.villachessahotel.com/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Johan007]Henk and Harold??? Is the Voramar run by Dutch or Germans???:-)
If I am corerct...do they also offer a pick up service at POP airport??
thanks Chily...i think i will book today and stay a week or so before i am off to SD.
Johan[/QUOTE]
Harald is orginally from luxembourg and henk is from the netherlands. There is also another guy from germany called patrick who is really nice and takes care of you. The voramar offers airport pickup, one the 3 dudes will pick you up and bring you pack to the airport.
I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.
Any suggestions? Please help!
[QUOTE=Forest]I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.
Any suggestions? Please help![/QUOTE]
There are chica friendly hotels in Sosua and you are going to find them searching through Expedia. The Hotels are the Europa, New Garden, Voramar, Clud Residential, and other smaller hotels that are cheaper than these. I dont most of these hotels offer internet room access, just go down to Rockys sit down and have a meal or something to eat and you will all the internet you will want.
Three permenant residents at club resedential use wireless and have not blocked the signal. In most rooms there you can pick it up. Europa has a cafe where the owner will let you use internet if you buy anything, even a soda. He will even supply you with a laptop.
But unless you must work while you are there, make use of the internet cafes that are on every corner. I have met some stunners while using them, and it gives you a destination during the day. La roca (one of my favorite eating holes) also offers free wireless internet, and has two computers onsite to check email.
[QUOTE=Forest]I have read the board, and cannot find a girl-friendly hotel in SOSUA with in the room internet access. I have read that not all hotels are girl friendly, so Expedia.com is not the way to find a hotel.
Any suggestions? Please help![/QUOTE]
The hotel voramar has wirless internet access in the bar area. The signal was very strong and when i was there in february i could use the internet in my room too without problems.
I read some posts a few pages back talking about Viagra. One says they aren't allowed to sell it over the counter anymore as of January 07 and a couple that said they still were at that time. Are there any updates about this?
I found a good airfare to POP for next Thursday. If it's still there on Monday and I can get the time approved, I'm going.
How is Sosua over the Easter holiday? Are there a lot less girls around?
I'm also going to email a couple of the recommended hotels and check on availability.
Thanks in advance,
Methos
and New Garden
Have any of you staid at Las Canas? Are they chica friendly? Would you also please recommend something similar in Cabarete ? Been few times to SD, time now to explore the North Coast.
Thank You all for all your contributions, as a relative newbie your posts helped me a lot in SD.
[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]There are chica friendly hotels in Sosua and you are going to find them searching through Expedia. The Hotels are the Europa, New Garden, Voramar, Clud Residential, and other smaller hotels that are cheaper than these. I dont most of these hotels offer internet room access, just go down to Rockys sit down and have a meal or something to eat and you will all the internet you will want.[/QUOTE]
The restaurant attached to The Europa w/ free internet access for customers is called Don Quixote's.
Its independently owned by a guy from upstate New York. I liked him, but I can see how he can be alittle gruff at times.
However, I was laughing my ass off when I saw the attched video. This guy did an absolute "hatchet-job" on him. This is one very, very funny video! :D
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkcvvyG0WeM[/url]
Pana NYC- its funny you mention the "guest friendly" hotels and then separately mention that Rocky's is a good place for the internet. Isn't Rocky's a well-known "guest friendly" place? Or has their policy changed? I've never stayed there but I know guys who swear by it.
cheers mates............
Very chica friendly = no docs, no holding docs!
[QUOTE=Chily]Very chica friendly = no docs, no holding docs![/QUOTE]What do you mean?
Where in the Dominican Republic can you get adult video?
i think he means they don't check or hold the girl's id. that can be a good or bad thing, good mostly for someone with an **** girl or possibly a haitiana without proper documentation.
in some hotels, if a girl leaves solo, reception will call your room to make sure everything is ok before they will return her cedula. i've had that happen when the girl in question was a long time amiga and not a casual pickup. it was unnecessary, but i still appreciated the fact that they were looking out for me.
Where is the Calipso hotel/cabana? Anyone been there recently?
Do you think that I would need to rent a car? Any ideea of how much would a cabbie charge? Which would you choose (you all know the criterias), Casa Linda or Las Canas? Two of us will be there from Apr 21st to Apr 29th, would love to get together for few Presidente.
The Calypso is on one of the side streets off the main street. (I know that sounds lame but don't know the exact street.) Not hard to find and anyone on the street can give you exact directions.
Last time I used it (about a year ago) they had short time rooms for 300 RD for an hour or so. I think they had an all night rate, too.
The rooms are OK, nothing glamorous, a bit austere even. Bed, sheets, bathroom, towels and air conditioning.
The owners do not require ID from the girls. Be smart.
[QUOTE=Danesi77]Do you think that I would need to rent a car? Any ideea of how much would a cabbie charge? Which would you choose (you all know the criterias), Casa Linda or Las Canas? Two of us will be there from Apr 21st to Apr 29th, would love to get together for few Presidente.[/QUOTE]
As far as the rental car goes, if this is your first trip down to the DR I would not suggest it. Get a lay of the land on your first trip and once you feel comfortable with the way they drive down here you should be ok.
Caribe has busses that do the trip. [url]http://www.caribetours.com.do/[/url]
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Where is the Calipso hotel/cabana? Anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]
Walk from Classico towards the disco called Searcrets, pass Searcrets and take the second street on the left. The hotel is on the right hand side of that street.
I was there in February and March 2007 several times with a girl who did not have id. One hour or st is 300 pesos and toda la noche is 700 pesos. The room was okay but the bathroom was disgusting.
Almost next door, behind Super, Super Liquors.
Yes, not much of a comparison; however, it's still necessary to put the information out there. Because, tastes and P4P ranges vary for both the DR and Rio, sexual appeal and pussy prices will not be compared. Pussy can be bought for US$15 and US$100 in both countries and there are plenty of photos on the internet to give guys an idea of what's out there.
That said, Sosua is not a good proxy for Rio; however, "Classicos" disco is a good proxy for "Help" disco (just a smaller version.) If you like Help disco in Rio, you'll like Classicos. Nevertheless, there are some issues with Sosua and with the DR.
-Helpmann :)
[b]DOWNSIDE (DR): [/b]
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.
[b]UPSIDE (DR):[/b]
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. [b]North Coast[/b] lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)
There are no direct flights from nyc, only from Newark (Continental).
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]There are no direct flights from nyc, only from Newark (Continental).[/QUOTE]
........low and behold, DR Monger II is right on! AA has stopped their direct servive from NYC. I spent many hours on that JFK-POP direct shot...it was [b]great![/b] It was originally cut down from 7 days a week, to 3 and now us New Yawkers (lol) have to fly thru MIA or SJU to get to POP. :(
(less flights, higher fees)
[QUOTE=Danesi77]Have any of you staid at Las Canas? Are they chica friendly? Would you also please recommend something similar in Cabarete ? Been few times to SD, time now to explore the North Coast.
Thank You all for all your contributions, as a relative newbie your posts helped me a lot in SD.[/QUOTE]What's tour take on SD. Hotels Chicas prices. In Cabarete try the road to the caves for chicas
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Yes, not much of a comparison; however, it's still necessary to put the information out there. Because, tastes and P4P ranges vary for both the DR and Rio, sexual appeal and pussy prices will not be compared. Pussy can be bought for US$15 and US$100 in both countries and there are plenty of photos on the internet to give guys an idea of what's out there.
That said, Sosua is not a good proxy for Rio; however, "Classicos" disco is a good proxy for "Help" disco (just a smaller version.) If you like Help disco in Rio, you'll like Classicos. Nevertheless, there are some issues with Sosua and with the DR.
-Helpmann :)
[b]DOWNSIDE (DR): [/b]
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.
[b]UPSIDE (DR):[/b]
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. [b]North Coast[/b] lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)[/QUOTE]it is silly to compare a small town in the DR with a major world city, however, even so your comparison is slanted. I would make the following points.
1. Sosua is 1 hour and 40 mins flying from Miami. Brazil is down by the Equator.
2. Spanish is spoken in the DR. Many of us speak Spanish--Spanish is spoken in many countries and by many people in the US, so is worth learning. Portuguese is spoken in Brazil--most of us don't speak it.
3. Sosua Beach is a pleasant place to spend a few hours, eat a meal, have a drink, and watch the people go by. It has great views across to the mountains behind Puerto Plata. If you want a broad, sandy beach for $1you can take a local taxi to Cabarete 5 miles away.
4. Although the girls may be "less professional" than in Rio and may perform better with some clients than with others, this is what many of us like--it is called spontaneity.
5. It is true that most Sosua girls don't favor anal sex, but what has this to do with sexual experience? I don't like anal sex and I have plenty of experience.
6. The closing of the bars and discos at midnight on weekdays is an inconvenience, but if you are a serious alcoholic you can always stock your hotel room with liquor.
7. Sosua is conveniently small. You can walk everywhere and never use motorized transport. It has a good selection of decent restaurants and bars, Internet cafes, etc.
8. Sosua doesn't have the brothels and termas that Rio has, but then again, there is a good selection of girls and you can have sex with as many attractive young women as you like, so what do you want?
I am sure that Rio offers the visitor a fantastic experience, but I'm not sure there is any point comparing it to Sosua. However, I have no doubt that if your pursuit of happiness revolves around anal sex and round-the-clock alcohol, you will be happier in Brazil.
Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.
I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.
Is it a hotel as well?
How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?
How far is it from sausa and PP?
ST = DR1500 how much is LT?
Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?
How many girls do they have there?
Is it on the beach?
I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]ST BB I just meant Short Time at Black Beard's. People often have in mind Blackbeard's when they refer to Puerto Plata - PP. Cristal is the strip club/casa near long beach that's higher priced and pitched to guys at playa dorada AI's. PP is a big place with price ranges the same as sosua. BB's is more a no bargaining needed fixed price venue.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.
I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.
Is it a hotel as well?
How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?
How far is it from sausa and PP?
ST = DR1500 how much is LT?
Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?
How many girls do they have there?
Is it on the beach?
I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?[/QUOTE]Try looking up the Blackbeard's Adult Resort Web page. They have an FAQ or you can e-mail them for information--or phone them.
BB's IS a hotel, not "officially" a brothel, -they will point out that they don't employ the girls, that they are "independent contractors" which they screen and permit to ply their trade there.
(Although THEY are the ONLY reason guests go to BB, of course).
Check the website for details.
blackbeardsadultresort.com
Rooms vary from multi-BR suites, to singles, so prices start at about $50US.
Rooms have safes.
PP is about 6-8 miles/ 10-15 min by taxi.
Sosua (about) 20 miles, 45 min. by taxi ($40US)
ST 1300 pesos, TLN/overnight about 2500 pesos.
The Costambar beach (small, islolated, but nice, not as busy and commercial-dominated as Sosua) is about 5 minutes walk away.
Yes, you can go just to drink or eat. Some locals do.
Girls total around 40-45, though don't expect them ALL to be there at the same time, nor wasting their time hanging around if there are no guests present at the time.
One can discuss their desires with Charo (mama-san) or her assistant to call a girl from home if the selection at the time isn't sufficient.
One can also "bring your own" from outside as long as they can produce an ID and haven't been banned from the place for some reason.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Before anyone starts i have RTFF, well as much as time permitts.
I am coming to Sausa on the 16th April. can someone post full details of BB.
Is it a hotel as well?
How much are the rooms if so? dio they have safes?
How far is it from sausa and PP?
ST = DR1500 how much is LT?
Can you just go for drinks? or do you have to be resident?
How many girls do they have there?
Is it on the beach?
I will be staying at Rockys on the 16th, if anyone wants to meet up for a beer!
I read somewhere Rockys is not good for bringing girls back! why is that?[/QUOTE]
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.
I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.
Any action down that way.
If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.
Wich is the most interesting? the safest?
Thank you for your help.
Yes you can just stop in for a drink to check the place out. If available they have been known to rent rooms for ST only.
Rocky's is chica friendly.
[QUOTE=Dr Visiter]What's tour take on SD. Hotels Chicas prices. In Cabarete try the road to the caves for chicas[/QUOTE]I was with my SD chica all the time, so I didn't have space to monger, but I've seen some stunning girls at the Barcelo Lina casino.
[QUOTE=Jacques52]I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.
I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.
Any action down that way.
If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.
Wich is the most interesting? the safest?
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
Jacques 52,
The Town of Cabrera is located in Sanchez Province, on the northeast section of the country. I've driven thru it 2x on my way out to Samana, can't say anything about it particulary sticks out in my mind. I have found that depending (of course) on your ability to converse in Spanish [b]"our type of activities"[/b] are available in almost every single town in the country! Its much more available in some places then others and depending on the specifics of your trip (wife's with you, have the kids, only have limited time free) you may not want to waste alot of time "digging" around and searching.
Don't go east from your hotel but rather west back towards Sosua/Cabarete. If you travel further east, all you're going to see is the dilapidated Town of Sanchez, and Samana (alot of digging) Bars, mp's are all over Sosua and have in-call, or out-call options for you. You could drive from Cabrera to Sosua in 40 minutes. You could probably do it even quicker but that road is notoriously always "washed out" and as I recall it (at times)it has potholes so big you could loose a Volkswagen in one. ;)
You should probably direct specific questions about the Town of Cabrera to the "other areas" thread as it is really not all that close to Sosua. Too, I'm going to go out a very long limb here and assume that you meant Boca Chica? (Never heard of Boca Rica) (lol) ......Boca Chica is on the south coast, quite a drive from your hotel and truly not worth it!
Welcome to the board, enjoy your trip and post of your experiences!
cheers.............
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacques52
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.
I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.
Any action down that way.
If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.
Wich is the most interesting? the safest?
Thank you for your help.
Jacques 52
I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.
[QUOTE=Frannie]it is silly to compare a small town in the DR with a major world city, however, even so your comparison is slanted. I would make the following points.
1. Sosua is 1 hour and 40 mins flying from Miami. Brazil is down by the Equator.[/quote][b]Flying time addressed in #7.[/b]
[quote]2. Spanish is spoken in the DR. Many of us speak Spanish--Spanish is spoken in many countries and by many people in the US, so is worth learning. Portuguese is spoken in Brazil--most of us don't speak it.[/quote][b]Most Americans speak English and that's about it. For many Americans, it makes no difference if the language is Spanish, Portuguese, or Thai.[/b]
[quote]3. Sosua Beach is a pleasant place to spend a few hours, eat a meal, have a drink, and watch the people go by. It has great views across to the mountains behind Puerto Plata. If you want a broad, sandy beach for $1you can take a local taxi to Cabarete 5 miles away.[/quote][b]Sosua is a small town with an ugly beach.[/b]
[quote]4. Although the girls may be "less professional" than in Rio and may perform better with some clients than with others, this is what many of us like--it is called spontaneity.[/quote][b]Brazil offers both.[/b]
[quote]5. It is true that most Sosua girls don't favor anal sex, but what has this to do with sexual experience? I don't like anal sex and I have plenty of experience.[/quote][b]A girl who can't take a cock in her ass, isn't up to Helpmann's standards.[/b]
[quote]6. The closing of the bars and discos at midnight on weekdays is an inconvenience, but if you are a serious alcoholic you can always stock your hotel room with liquor.[/quote][b]This is Latin America!! The party doesn't start until 1am; however, the DR discos and bars close down at 12am. This only benefits the AARP crowd, cheap pussy preceded by the "early bird" dinner special.[/b]
[quote]7. Sosua is conveniently small. You can walk everywhere and never use motorized transport. It has a good selection of decent restaurants and bars, Internet cafes, etc.[/quote][b]Yes, Copacabana has none of these things :rolleyes:[/b]
[quote]8. Sosua doesn't have the brothels and termas that Rio has, but then again, there is a good selection of girls and you can have sex with as many attractive young women as you like, so what do you want?[/quote][b]Termas, brothels, and pussy 24/7.[/b]
[quote]I am sure that Rio offers the visitor a fantastic experience, but I'm not sure there is any point comparing it to Sosua. However, I have no doubt that if your pursuit of happiness revolves around anal sex and round-the-clock alcohol, you will be happier in Brazil.[/QUOTE][b]It sounds like you have never been to Rio; therefore, you're speaking out of your ass.[/b]
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Bahai]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacques52
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.
I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.
Any action down that way.
If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.
Wich is the most interesting? the safest?
Thank you for your help.
Jacques 52
I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.[/QUOTE]
you are not far from PoP and the upscale places and the car washes have on premises places to rip one off
[QUOTE=Bahai]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacques52
I am a new member, did not know about this group until yesterday.
I will be staying in La Catalina Hotel in Cabrera. I am stuck, my reservations are made.
Any action down that way.
If not, what about Puerto Plata, Sosua, Boca Rica.
Wich is the most interesting? the safest?
Thank you for your help.
Jacques 52
I am at La Catalina beginning the 13th. Golfing Playa Grande. Happy to team up for a trip or two to Sosua.[/QUOTE]
Dude you are an hour away from Puerto Plata and Sousa, and like 5 hours away from Boca Chica. Do you speak spanish? If not than your best bet is to hook up with a local Dominicano to introduce you to semi-pros, pros, non-pors in Cabrera or near by town Rio San Juan or Nagua depending where your guide is from. Since you are going to be in these small towns dont pay a chica no more than 1000RD for her time, and the guide just buy him meals and drinks and you should be good in that aspect. Hook up with a Dominicano who works at the place that you will be staying and he should be able to hook you up and introduce you to chicas if you dont speak spanish.
[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]Dude you are an hour away from Puerto Plata and Sousa, and like 5 hours away from Boca Chica. Do you speak spanish? If not than your best bet is to hook up with a local Dominicano to introduce you to semi-pros, pros, non-pors in Cabrera or near by town Rio San Juan or Nagua depending where your guide is from. Since you are going to be in these small towns dont pay a chica no more than 1000RD for her time, and the guide just buy him meals and drinks and you should be good in that aspect. Hook up with a Dominicano who works at the place that you will be staying and he should be able to hook you up and introduce you to chicas if you dont speak spanish.[/QUOTE]
Try to hook up with a trustworthy taxicab driver.
They usually have a few girls they can link you up with.
As stated, buy him a beer and a snack and have him hook you up.
(Just keep your wits about you, just in case he's not.)
Impossible to sleep=party, party, roosters all night, motos, loud talking!
My car is rear-ended. I get out my car to talk with the driver. He flees the scene. I get car type and plate #. Report to Policia. They could care less. They spend 30 min. writing a report. Much interrogation of me! Very little interest in the other car or apprehension. Then refuse to give me a copy of the report for my rental car company and insurance company unless i bribe them!
[QUOTE=Chily]My car is rear-ended. I get out my car to talk with the driver. He flees the scene. I get car type and plate #. Report to Policia. They could care less. They spend 30 min. writing a report. Much interrogation of me! Very little interest in the other car or apprehension. Then refuse to give me a copy of the report for my rental car company and insurance company unless i bribe them![/QUOTE]
An example of why the DR will suffer for years to come. Corruption.
I had a similar experience, but I was able to submit a written statement to the rental company. My credit card covered my damage and I submitted the claim to them for reimbursement. Everything went fine.
One reason I always use a national-level US rental car company, never a local or small-time company.
[QUOTE=Chily]Impossible to sleep=party, party, roosters all night, motos, loud talking![/QUOTE]
I never heard of anyone doing TLN Los Charomincos. I like to hear the story on this one.
Is it possible to buy a local sim for a mobile phone in Sausa? and how much are they?
No hotels were available. Chica is my regular. We decided to go to her place at the far West end of town, then at least 2 city blocks downhill , on a skinny lane. All houses were side-by-side like a barrio. All night you could hear motos, some on the skinny path. Everyone must raise chickens, the noise never stopped. We could hear parties all night. The very early in the morning the families started rising. Every word could be heard especially, the very bossy mothers. And a drunk driver rear-ended my car, then fled the scene! Never again!
Hello forum members. I am planning a last minute trip to DR since my return trip to Quito has been put on hold. POP (BB's) and/or Sosua were of interest. Does anyone have any recent info or comments about Hotel Voramar? It looks very chica friendly based on the web site and I did see it mentioned here in the Sosua section but it doesn't have the following as say. BB in POP. Should I take that as a sign that it isn't good. LOL. Thanks in advance. By the way, I hope to visit the end of this month into the first week of May. I will keep checking the forum for any of you other members that will be there and maybe we can get together for a drink and compare notes.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Is it possible to buy a local sim for a mobile phone in Sausa? and how much are they?[/QUOTE]There is an Orange phone center on Alejo Martinez (sp). The cost is 350 pesos.
[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]Hello forum members. I am planning a last minute trip to DR since my return trip to Quito has been put on hold. POP (BB's) and/or Sosua were of interest. Does anyone have any recent info or comments about Hotel Voramar? It looks very chica friendly based on the web site and I did see it mentioned here in the Sosua section but it doesn't have the following as say. BB in POP. Should I take that as a sign that it isn't good. LOL. Thanks in advance. By the way, I hope to visit the end of this month into the first week of May. I will keep checking the forum for any of you other members that will be there and maybe we can get together for a drink and compare notes.[/QUOTE]
Voramar is very chica friendly, but doesn't officially invite the P4P ladies to hang our there. This is not like BB with fixed prices etc. Just very very chica friendly. Officially, all of the women are supposed to have their cedulas, but this policy is not enforced. The bar is opened 24 h per day, and at least half the girls who work there will see you when they are not working (the best looking girl, however, wouldn't even talk to me after she watched me bring back 4 different girls in my first 8 hours there. There was some element of professional pride, I guess).
At night, there are some girls who hang at the bar to pick up some business. Only one of them was not fat and ugly, but she was no beauty either (her BBBJ was top par, proving once again that beauty is overrated). I did see a few girls at 8 am who were leaving the hotel; these girls were available if you were ready and quick to beat out the other guys who were waiting around.
My biggest problem with the hotel is that it is not near the city center. This would be fine if it were quiet (this is, after all, why you do not hang out in the city). But the bar is open all night long, and there is latin music blaring 24/7. Why not stay at the Europa under the circumstances? Its a bit of a pain to be taking the motoconcho into town whenever you want pussy. And frankly, the motoconchos were not all that pleasant. That being said, I discovered a great way to find semi pros was to tell a motoconcho guy you want to cruise and find a beautiful girl, Any girl you point out, he will ask them if they are interested in fucking you. You would be surprised how many girls will say yes, even though they are not really prostitutes.
The owners are great guys, incidentally. There is internet access most of the time if you bring a computer with Wi Fi capabilities. They also exchange money at rates that are not a ripoff.
One more thing: comparing Sosua to Rio is like comparing Peoria to Paris. But there is plenty of P4P, and many of the girls available are quite beautiful despite their lack of sophistication. If you are vacationing for sex alone, its not a bad place. If you are expecting a beautiful beach and beauitiful girls, forget it. Find a chica in Sosua and take your girl to an all inclusive resort with its private beach (registering her when you check in). The public beaches are pure third world fare (although not bad for finding sex).
[QUOTE=Forest]Voramar is very chica friendly, but doesn't officially invite the P4P ladies to hang our there. This is not like BB with fixed prices etc. Just very very chica friendly. Officially, all of the women are supposed to have their cedulas, but this policy is not enforced. The bar is opened 24 h per day, and at least half the girls who work there will see you when they are not working (the best looking girl, however, wouldn't even talk to me after she watched me bring back 4 different girls in my first 8 hours there. There was some element of professional pride, I guess).
At night, there are some girls who hang at the bar to pick up some business. Only one of them was not fat and ugly, but she was no beauty either (her BBBJ was top par, proving once again that beauty is overrated). I did see a few girls at 8 am who were leaving the hotel; these girls were available if you were ready and quick to beat out the other guys who were waiting around.
My biggest problem with the hotel is that it is not near the city center. This would be fine if it were quiet (this is, after all, why you do not hang out in the city). But the bar is open all night long, and there is latin music blaring 24/7. Why not stay at the Europa under the circumstances? Its a bit of a pain to be taking the motoconcho into town whenever you want pussy. And frankly, the motoconchos were not all that pleasant. That being said, I discovered a great way to find semi pros was to tell a motoconcho guy you want to cruise and find a beautiful girl, Any girl you point out, he will ask them if they are interested in fucking you. You would be surprised how many girls will say yes, even though they are not really prostitutes.
The owners are great guys, incidentally. There is internet access most of the time if you bring a computer with Wi Fi capabilities. They also exchange money at rates that are not a ripoff.
One more thing: comparing Sosua to Rio is like comparing Peoria to Paris. But there is plenty of P4P, and many of the girls available are quite beautiful despite their lack of sophistication. If you are vacationing for sex alone, its not a bad place. If you are expecting a beautiful beach and beauitiful girls, forget it. Find a chica in Sosua and take your girl to an all inclusive resort with its private beach (registering her when you check in). The public beaches are pure third world fare (although not bad for finding sex).[/QUOTE]
The hotel voramar also offers appartments, which are behind the 2 main buildings and they are nice and quiet and the music from the bar does not disturb you at all, and also the cleaners show up later like at 1:30 pm.
Thankyou guys for your quick response, opinions and advice. I was looking at doing a few days at BBs and a few days in Sosua at hotel V. Unfortunately I will be alone on this venture and being still a rookie I think I will be more comfortable "fishing in a barrel" for this first trip. I will definately make it a point to go to the city for a few hours during the day and follow some of the posts here for places to check out while in Sosua. At BB's I will probably just relax on the beach. As always, I will continue to read the forum and hopefully post something of interest when I take my trip.
[QUOTE=Helpmann][b]Flying time addressed in #7.[/b]
[b]Most Americans speak English and that's about it. For many Americans, it makes no difference if the language is Spanish, Portuguese, or Thai.[/b]
[b]Sosua is a small town with an ugly beach.[/b]
[b]Brazil offers both.[/b]
[b]A girl who can't take a cock in her ass, isn't up to Helpmann's standards.[/b]
[b]This is Latin America!! The party doesn't start until 1am; however, the DR discos and bars close down at 12am. This only benefits the AARP crowd, cheap pussy preceded by the "early bird" dinner special.[/b]
[b]Yes, Copacabana has none of these things :rolleyes:[/b]
[b]Termas, brothels, and pussy 24/7.[/b]
[b]It sounds like you have never been to Rio; therefore, you're speaking out of your ass.[/b]
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]Oh, really, well what about this post from less than six months ago written by someone using the name Helpmann. Quoted below:
The DR vs. Brazil: My 2 Cents.
I prefer the DR to Brazil. Nevertheless, with a few exceptions (laws/norms regarding prostitution and police corruption) I don't believe that there is really that big a difference between the two. If you're looking for flirtatious sexy morenas with thin bodies and round culos, you can find them in both countries. After that, it comes down to three things.
1) Do you have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.
2) Do you speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?
3) All things being equal (#1 and #2,) is it convenient and cheap for you to travel to the country?
For me, when it comes to the DR, I can answer "YES" to #1, #2, and #3; however, when it comes to Brazil, I can't answer "YES" to a single one.
Yes, I can get laid in Brazil, but not like I can in the DR. I can't find an 18-year-old Brazilian girl, who's going to let me fuck her like her last Brazilian boyfriend. Yes, I may fuck her ass and yes, I may fuck her throat and slap her with my dick, but not for US$30 and not following 4-hours of GFE.
I don't speak Portuguese, I know very little about Brazilian culture, and it's a 10-hour, $800 direct flight away (3.5-hour, $400 direct flight to DR,) so when I cancel a free miles flight to Brazil, so I can return to the DR, it's because I've already been to Sugar Loaf.
Thank you for the advices, it will be put to good use.
[QUOTE=Frannie]Oh, really, well what about this post from less than six months ago written by someone using the name Helpmann. Quoted below:
The DR vs. Brazil: My 2 Cents.
I prefer the DR to Brazil. Nevertheless, with a few exceptions (laws/norms regarding prostitution and police corruption) I don't believe that there is really that big a difference between the two. If you're looking for flirtatious sexy morenas with thin bodies and round culos, you can find them in both countries. After that, it comes down to three things.
1) Do you have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.
2) Do you speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?
3) All things being equal (#1 and #2,) is it convenient and cheap for you to travel to the country?
For me, when it comes to the DR, I can answer "YES" to #1, #2, and #3; however, when it comes to Brazil, I can't answer "YES" to a single one.
Yes, I can get laid in Brazil, but not like I can in the DR. I can't find an 18-year-old Brazilian girl, who's going to let me fuck her like her last Brazilian boyfriend. Yes, I may fuck her ass and yes, I may fuck her throat and slap her with my dick, but not for US$30 and not following 4-hours of GFE.
I don't speak Portuguese, I know very little about Brazilian culture, and it's a 10-hour, $800 direct flight away (3.5-hour, $400 direct flight to DR,) so when I cancel a free miles flight to Brazil, so I can return to the DR, it's because I've already been to Sugar Loaf.[/QUOTE][b]Simple. I personally prefer to the DR to Brazil (I think most guys that read my posts know this.) Nevertheless, I'm probably in the minority when it comes to this opinion and below are the reasons why:[/b]
[quote][b]DOWNSIDE (DR): [/b]
1. Su-Th. clubs that serve alcohol are now legally obligated to close down at 12am. (Fr & Sa: 2am)
2. You will never find the professionalism of a Rio hooker. There are no reliable escort services in DR. Sexual services provided can vary drastically for different men, who use the the same girl.
3. Women not as sexually experienced (much less anal)
4. Sosua is an ugly city with an ugly beach.
5. No termas.
6. Many taxi drivers outside of Santo Domingo are cheats and thieves. A rental car is highly recommended.
[b]UPSIDE (DR):[/b]
1. Some clubs seem to have a way of bypassing this law ("Mangu" in Playa Dorado stays open until 5am and "Playa Chiquita," a casino w/ a disco in Sosua, stays open until 4am.)
2. NO COUNTER. Who want's a pro providing GFE?
3. NO COUNTER. Just take it. Gazelles are passive and take what is given to them.
4. Cabarete and Boca Chica have good beaches. Bayahibe and Punta Cana have beautiful beaches; however, fewer women.
5. NO COUNTER. Santo Domingo does have massage parlors and wh0re houses, but nothing like 4x4.
6. NO COUNTER. Car rental's are $35-$80/day (depending on time of year and make.)
*7. If leaving from NYC, direct flights are 3.5 hours.
*8. [b]North Coast[/b] lodging and food are cheaper than Rio. (ex. 2-bedroom villas w/ private pool for US$105.)[/quote]I'm not going to lie to a fellow single traveler and tell him that Sosua is just as beautiful as Rio and that what one can do in Rio is equivalent to what one can do in Sosua. That's Bull Shit! Nevertheless, for me, in the Dominican Republic:
[b][size=1]1) I have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.
2) I speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?
3) It's convenient and cheap for me to travel to the country?[/b][/size]
BTW: My OP was only to inform on the differences and similarities between Sosua and Rio, not to slam Sosua or the Dominican Republic (which is how you've interpreted it.) The post was written in response to a PM I received from a frequent Rio traveler, who wanted to know the similarities and differences between the two cities. You shouldn't take it as a personal insult if one decides to comment on the only city your mongering experience is limited to.
-Helpmann :)
I think it is much better if you stay at home and jack off.
Rio and Sosua are boring, no girls, high prices and both dry towns (no drinking aloud in either). Watch this board for updates on when it might be safe to return to either.
No, I was just amused that Helpmann's earlier post spoke about the huge advantages of being able to speak Spanish in the DR, but the more recent post opined that since most people in the US don't speak either Spanish or Portuguese, then it makes no difference.
Learning a new language takes a certain investment of time and effort, but anyone who is planning to make more than one sex tourism trip would probably find it would pay off. Once you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick, as this will also stand you in good stead in other mongering destinations like Costa Rica (where I have been) and Colombia. Spanish is also more commercially useful in the US.
I prefer the DR for exactly the same reasons as Helpmann, and having reached a certain level of fluency in Spanish, I am too lazy to start over in Portuguese.
[QUOTE=Frannie]Once you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick, as this will also stand you in good stead in other mongering destinations like Costa Rica (where I have been) and Colombia. Spanish is also more commercially useful in the US.[/QUOTE]
......"if you decide to learn a mongering language, then Spanish is probably the one to pick" Well, I can hardly disagree with this statement. :) I suppose you could learn Portuguese for your trips to Brazil or Creole to help on a trip to Haiti - but I mean c'mon [b][i]who really wants to travel to Haiti?[/i][/b]
Spanish is important and essential to have a true "gfe" down there. As I became fluent in Spanish my experiences improved and my gfe's improved %500.
In college I studied German. Being able to speak German is very important in Latin America also (lol) :D When someone from Hamburg or Franfurt thinks I'm from Germany (my appearance looks German) I am able to say -
"Ich verstehe nicht, ich bin ein Amerikaner. Wie ist Ihr Glas Bier?"
"I don't understand you, I am an American. How is your glass of beer?" :D
[QUOTE=Frannie]No, I was just amused that Helpmann's earlier post spoke about the huge advantages of being able to speak Spanish in the DR, but the more recent post opined that since most people in the US don't speak either Spanish or Portuguese, then it makes no difference...[/QUOTE]There is an advantage to speaking the language of the country one is mongering in; however, most Americans don't speak a second language. Therefore, you'll find just as many Americans mongering in Europe, Asia, and South America.
You should have read an even earlier post where I state that if one can't speak the language one should head to Rio, "it's perfect for guys that only speak English." Nevertheless, most of the American tourists I meet don't speak Spanish and at best have 5 Spanish phrases on hand and can count to 1000.
I guess I could speak for myself and assume that everyone speaks Spanish, has easy access to direct flights out of JFK->SDQ, and has the "talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat." If I did, I would say, [b]"EVERYONE COME TO BOCA CHICA, IT'S HEAVEN ON EARTH AND NOTHING BEATS IT."[/b] I doubt there would be many guys who would disagree with that.
[b]BTW: I didn't make the mistake of posting a photo of your novia or something?? Was it "Fuck Puppet?"[/b]
-Helpmann :D
[QUOTE=Helpmann]There is an advantage to speaking the language of the country one is mongering in; however, most Americans don't speak a second language. Therefore, you'll find just as many Americans mongering in Europe, Asia, and South America.
You should have read an even earlier post where I state that if one can't speak the language one should head to Rio, "it's perfect for guys that only speak English." Nevertheless, most of the American tourists I meet don't speak Spanish and at best have 5 Spanish phrases on hand and can count to 1000.
I guess I could speak for myself and assume that everyone speaks Spanish, has easy access to direct flights out of JFK->SDQ, and has the "talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat." If I did, I would say, [b]"EVERYONE COME TO BOCA CHICA, IT'S HEAVEN ON EARTH AND NOTHING BEATS IT."[/b] I doubt there would be many guys who would disagree with that.
[b]BTW: I didn't make the mistake of posting a photo of your novia or something?? Was it "Fuck Puppet?"[/b]
-Helpmann :D[/QUOTE]I guess I am pretty stupid, but at least I speak Spanish with a certain amount of fluency, not like a native to be sure, though one or two girls have asked me if I was Dominican (I am sure they are thinking local resident immigrant Dominican and not native-born Dominican.) I also speak German, which is occasionally useful for discussing Fussball mit Fritz and Hans uber ein bier.
The point I made was that if you are just making one lifetime trip, then language does not matter, but if you are going to make two or more trips, then you might as well learn one of the languages of mongering, as you and I both have, and the most obvious one to learn is Spanish. I am well aware that most Americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system, but it is not that hard to pick up a second operating system for your brain and there are many learning aids available on the Internet.
I have no doubt that Rio beats the pants off Sosua in many respects, but the newbie who is planning a first trip will have to decide for himself once he has all the pros and cons of both.
April 11,2007 | RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Gov. Sergio Cabral Filho has formally requested that the army intervene to contain the violence that has been spiraling out of control in Rio de Janeiro.
AP News.
[QUOTE=Frannie]I am well aware that most Americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system.....
[/QUOTE]
Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.[/QUOTE]
Ah! But look at the Dutch on Curacao. Most will speak three, possibly four languages. It is not because their education system is superior (which it is). But because nobody else can speak fuck*ng Dutch!!
For example, ask a German to pronounce "Scheveningen" and see what happens. If they get it right, I will give them a bike.
Suerte!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Unecessary.
I also would say that even those getting the best educations, language is simply not a priorit.
In Europe, one can get on the highway or a train and in less than an hour, you can be in anothe country, with another language.
Multiple languages are simply needed to live there.
In the US, unless one travels outside the country, (and so many don't) a second language is rarely useful.
I personally think its a good idea to have more than one language. We Americans often thing we are the center of the universe, and being able to communicate and appreciate other cultures is a gift.
(O BTW, I lived in Europe for almost 9 years on and off , in uniform and civilian capacity, and there are Europeans who don't speak a second language).
Another language is more common in the young -and its usually English!
Damn, Sorry about all those typos.
(I can write in English, believe me.)
[QUOTE=Yanqui69]Agreed. Unecessary.
I also would say that even those getting the best educations, language is simply not a priorit.
In Europe, one can get on the highway or a train and in less than an hour, you can be in anothe country, with another language.
Multiple languages are simply needed to live there.
In the US, unless one travels outside the country, (and so many don't) a second language is rarely useful.
I personally think its a good idea to have more than one language. We Americans often thing we are the center of the universe, and being able to communicate and appreciate other cultures is a gift.
(O BTW, I lived in Europe for almost 9 years on and off , in uniform and civilian capacity, and there are Europeans who don't speak a second language).
Another language is more common in the young -and its usually English![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crossfire1]Ouchh!!! That's fucked up. You didn't have to take it there.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. We don't have to make sweeping remarks about the educational system. Let's be civil about this......
[quote=frannie]i am well aware that most americans do not have a second language, due mainly to deficiencies in the education system, but it is not that hard to pick up a second operating system for your brain and there are many learning aids available on the internet.[/quote]
this remark is a perverse misrepresentation of the truth.
the education system in europe emphasizes the study of foreign languages as a matter of necessicity. a german businessman would be hard pressed to be successful in his work with out a "working" command of english, french, russian, possibly dutch. this is due to the fact that the proximity of the european nations makes it [b][i]significantly[/i][/b] more likely that business will be conducted across borders than has traditionally been the case here in the usa.
for example - let's compare a businessman in st louis missouri with say one from munich germany. the businessman in st louis can engage in commerce with companies that are physically located 1500 miles east or west of his office and still be in the usa. business, still be conducted (for the most part) in english.
you travel 1500 miles either north, south, east or west from munich you will cross over into the countries of france, the united kingdom, belgium, netherlands, denmark, switzerland, italy, austria, poland, croatia, sweden, finland, former nations of the soviet union such as estonia, russia, albania, slovakia and serbia/montenegro.
learning foreign languages in europe is therefore, of much greater necessity than it is in the us. i would certainly suggest however, as business becomes increasingly global with every passing year - this will change. it already has.:)
anectdotally, i have found that for a group of people that you remark have a "superior education system", i have found that the german's that i have met in my numerous trips to the dr are sadly lacking in spanish! they try to get by down there by using their english but this doesn't serve them well - because the education system in the dr is grossly inadequate - and english is not widely spoken.
i translate and help out german tourists in the dr all the time when they have difficulty speaking with the locals. on my last trip, (last month) i helped a german tourist with his breakfast order and he thanked me. he then remarked that he thought it was funny that he needed my help, because he told me he "speaks 5 languages at %75 or more, but spanish isn't one of them"
he said, "spain is not a leading nation in the european business community and as such he never felt the need to learn the language"
to suggest that the entire american education system is lacking, solely due to the fact that europeans excel in foreign language skills is an obfurep001ion of the truth.
cheers my friends.......
[quote=ford]......the education system in europe emphasizes the study of foreign languages as a matter of necessicity. a german businessman would be hard pressed to be successful in his work with out a "working" command of english, french, russian, possibly dutch.........1500 miles either north, south, east or west from munich you will cross over into the countries of france, the united kingdom, ...."spain is not a leading nation in the european business community and as such he never felt the need to learn the language".......... to suggest that the entire american education system is lacking, solely due to the fact that europeans excel in foreign language skills is an obfurep001ion of the truth........[/quote]
ford:
i do agree with your final analysis.
a german simply cannot speak dutch. in wwii the dutch, to protect themselves, got people to name a specific dutch town to see if they were infiltrators, or not! if you were a german, you couldn't handle the consonants properly and got promptly slotted.
english is the lingua franca in europe (pardon the pun) primarily because the french refuse to speak german, as do the dutch (although most of them learn it) plus the british are just as bad as the americans when it comes to languages. in fact, the united kingdom (which is not a coutry, cough) has dialects so extreme that in many cases an englishman could not understand what a scot said. even if he wanted to.
the key is who does the trading? that is where the language comes from. the us could actually live without raw materials from abroad and until last century was mainly trading "within" (i exclude texas who kept changing nationality). hence, no need to learn another language. and note that spain has been a poor sister in europe based on exports for a while, but that has changed mightily in the last few years. the sun is finally setting on the uk as the emasculated effetes demonstrated adequately quite recently.
until recently a modern language was a mandatory course in the uk. but that wasn't getting the government the pass marks they needed to boast about. so they introduced media studies and hairdressing!!
i was classically schooled (got buggered rotten, but learnt a thing or two) and was trained as a french linguist. what a wast of fuc*ing time. i have no wish to go to the congo. and it actually gets in the way of learning spanish. have you ever tried asking for directions in a 7-11 in california in french??? see how far that gets you!!
language is a matter of trade. you trade global - you need to be able to speak local. the capital markets gravitate to cheap raw materials. i submit that we are all engaged in trade on this board. and, with due respect to some of our members, some of the materials purchased are more raw than others!!
suerte!
polvo
O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.
The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.
Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.
And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.
The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.
So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.
Trip number 7...but its been a year. I would like to NOT stay in Europa this time around; any other suggestions on Europa-like places. Any info on New Garden or other options under $40/night? What is Club Residencial like?
Also, any info on the scene since the curfew was implemented? My routine has always been putz around during the day, find a pre-quel for an evening bone at ~9pm, and then hit Classico for the nightcap at midnight...are clubs even open at midnight now? Nothing was more fun than pulling out stragglers from Classico at 3am at bargain basement prices! By that time, I have enough booze in me for the 5s and 6s to look like 7s and 8s anyhow!
Is there anything new to Sosua I should check out? New clubs or massage places I should look out for? Is High Caribe or D'Latinos back open? Anything in Cabarete or Charamicosworth checking out. Any casino action? I like off-the-beaten path stuff...but old school mongering up and down Pedro Clisante is always a winner!
I checked this place out the last time I was in Sosua (Fall of 2006). I have been staying at the Europa, which is central and convenient, but has its faults and is a bit rundown. I took a short tour of Club Residencial and it is VERY nice, especially for local standards. They have several classes of rooms, poolside, non-poolside, I think some two room apts and overall the place looked much nicer than any local properties I've been in, but they were a bit pricier...can't remember exact numbers, but in the vicinity of $60 U.S. per night, depending on the season.
They have full time security out front all the time and it is chica friendly, but the cedulas (id) are required and held at the front desk. This is a good thing, for most of us.
Although I've never stayed there, it looked great and I would recommend it.
[QUOTE=Frannie]O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.
The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.
Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.
And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.
The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.
So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.[/QUOTE]
Frannie,
O.K. maybe we got off on the wrong foot - if so, I apologize. I certainly think that this most recent post is accurate, well-thought out and articulate. I agree completely with your remarks.
In defense of [b][i]my[/i][/b] education system let me just offer this. When you say that the schools here are not doing a good job preparing students for the world we live in - well this may be true. But I think the USA education has been largely [b]overwhelmed[/b] by the explosion of immigration in the past ten years and was ill-prepared to handle it.
The signs you speak of in Walmart that are in both English/Spanish represent a rather recent "phenomenon". They were put there to address the needs of a changing society and that is what our schools need to do. The Europeans are a bit ahead of us when it comes to foreign language [b][i]awareness[/i][/b] - that I'll give you! :)
BTW, since I live in New York and am employed in one of the fields that you mention - and routinely provide Spanish/English interpretaions at my job - I know of what I speak! ;)
cheers ..............
I agree with you and Ford.
In the modern globalizing world, there is no excuse for not learning more than one language. Current immigration matters aside, there has been a strong Spanish influence in the Southwest and Florida for a long long time
(since way back when it belonged to SPAIN).
I live in Florida and love the Latin influence.
It gives an otherwise bland whitebread-and-baloney culture a little spice.
We Americans have been isolated in our own little world for too long.
Serve overseas or live overseas a while and you find out how isolated mentally we really are.
One should be a citizen of the world, not a little corner of it.
The Latins have an expression that roughly translates as:
"Whoever can speak another language is worth two."
Wish we Gringos were that wise.
[QUOTE=Frannie]O.K., I live in Florida, a state that has a very large Spanish speaking population and does a great deal of trade with Latin America, and where signs in stores like Wal*Mart are routinely posted in both Spanish and English. yet Spanish is not routinely taught in the public schools, except to Spanish speaking children who are taught in Spanish! I call this a deficiency in the education system.
The large organization I work for provides services to people who don't speak English, and yet almost the only people in the organization who speak Spanish are those for whom it is a first language.
Since many jobs require Spanish speaking skills, persons who don't have them are pretty much excluded. Try getting a job as an airline agent in Miami if you don't speak Spanish.
And even if you don't absolutely NEED Spanish, it is extremely useful in many fields including government services, health care, prisons, law enforcement and helps you get ahead. In addition, learning a language, any language, invariable includes learning more about other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in, which is generally a good thing.
The best way to learn a language is to start as young as possible. A person who language as an adult rarely speaks as well as someone who learned it young.
So in my opinion black and white Floridians who don't speak Spanish are disadvantaged versus bilingual Cuban Americans who learn Spanish in the home. The schools are not doing a very good job in preparing students for the world we live in.[/QUOTE]
Yanqui69,
Thank you for your kind words Yanqui, but to be fair I think the person you are agreeing with is Frannie. He wrote the caption that you are quoting from.
I was defending the US education system as it attempts to play "catch up" in this ever changing world - a world that benefits (imo) more and more everyday from the influence of Latin America. :)
[QUOTE=Ford]Yanqui69,
Thank you for your kind words Yanqui, but to be fair I think the person you are agreeing with is Frannie. He wrote the caption that you are quoting from.
I was defending the US education system as it attempts to play "catch up" in this ever changing world - a world that benefits (imo) more and more everyday from the influence of Latin America. :)[/QUOTE]
Ford,
No problem.
It just seemed to me that we were all in our own way extolling the benefits of learning another language and broadening our horizons (and minds).
regards
yanqui69
Let's get real.
No one one on ISG is studying Spanish so they can learn more about "other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in." If an ISG member is studying Spanish, it's because "Language Ability" + "A Plane Ticket to DR" = "A Hot Cheap Lay," nothing else.
If you were fluent before your "mongering career" you're either Latino, Spanish, or Italian. There's no economic or social benefit for many Americans to know another language. Yes, there's a very large populous of Hispanic-Americans in California, Texas, New York, Florida, New Mexico, and Arizona. That's cool. Nevertheless, there are 44 other states in this country. Do I need Spanish to live in Massachussetts, Ohio, Colorado, Indiana, Vermont, Georgia, Oregon...?? Only if I plan to bang *****s in Mexico!
Everyone who's finished high school in the US has studied another language. Nevertheless, because there is no economic or social benefit for many Americans to learn another language, we don't practice and we don't continue to learn. It's not because Americans are lazier than the French.
Believe me, Americans are determined. Once we see the "economic" benefit, we'll jump right on it! Shit, you don't have to be a "rocket scientist" to learn Spanish and you'll see that out upon meeting the ex-pats that live in DR.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Let's get real.
No one one on ISG is studying Spanish so they can learn more about "other cultures and ways of life, and about the world we live in." If an ISG member is studying Spanish, it's because "Language Ability" + "A Plane Ticket" = "A Hot Cheap Lay," nothing else. ....... you don't have to be a "rocket scientist" to learn Spanish and you'll see that out upon meeting the ex-pats that live in DR.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Helpmann:
Respectfully, Ford was defending the eduaction system. Most were agreeing with him. And, in analysis, you are too.
You correctly identify there is minimum economic benefit for the vast majority of Americans to learn a second language because the vast majority of Americans do not travel outside the contiguous US. The vast majority of Americans do not even posses a current passport! For them, there is no need.
You also correctly point out that people on this board are learning a second language to try and get a cheaper, hotter experience! Earlier, I submitted that everyone on this board is engaged in trade. Money for sex (P4P or GF). I would also submit that the people on this board are not the "vanilla" normal American. And for that, I am grateful!
So if you are after a better, and hopefully cheaper, experience in South America you learn Spanish or Portuguese. The capital markets gravitate to cheap raw materials - which is all we are after!! And, with due respect to some of our members, some of the materials purchased are more raw than others. But many of the ones featured here are as good as I have seen anywhere!
Now, bugger this, what's happening in Classico tonight??
Suerte!
Polvo
ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.
Thanks
Cap
Suggest you contact some realtors there for long-term rentals.
Try americanrealtydr.com
juanperdomo.com also has multi-national agents (Dutch, Belgian, US, etc)
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.
Thanks
Cap[/QUOTE]
Yanqui69,
Thanks for the reply. I will look into your suggestions.
Other questions I wanted to ask, you and others maybe able to comment on are, The off season if there is one? Am I correct in asuming this begins around May ending in the cooler months of Nov?
The hotel VORAMAR I have seen rates ranging form $50 thru 150 What is up with that?
My frist stay being in May, 07 for 30days, I'll stay here hopefully in a one room apartment. Than I'm back to Nigeria for 60days.
Any and all comments are welcome from all members. Anything that may help me learn a little before I arrive.
My flight will be Nigeria, Paris, Miam, POP
Thanks in advance.
Cap
Yanqui69,
Thanks for your reply. I'll look into these are ny visit in May.
You may see a reply I wrote early in regards to these questions not sure if it was posted or not.
Is there and offseason?
The hotel VORAMAR I am seeing price from $40-$70 and $150 if I go to the "REALDR. COM" What is up with that?
I will be traveling Nigeria, Paris, Miami, POP early May, 07
I plan on staying at the VORAMAR for thirty days. Than I return to Nigeria for sixty days.
If anyone has any comments on any thing from my flight to and from to were I stay to contacts in SOUSA please let me hear it. I'll thank you in advance now.
All The Best!
Cap
The closest thing to an off-season is the summer.
Those going for women aren't put off, but the "snow-birds" that come to escape the winter can sweat at home without coming to the Caribbean to do so.
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]Yanqui69,
Thanks for your reply. I'll look into these are ny visit in May.
You may see a reply I wrote early in regards to these questions not sure if it was posted or not.
Is there and offseason?
The hotel VORAMAR I am seeing price from $40-$70 and $150 if I go to the "REALDR. COM" What is up with that?
I will be traveling Nigeria, Paris, Miami, POP early May, 07
I plan on staying at the VORAMAR for thirty days. Than I return to Nigeria for sixty days.
If anyone has any comments on any thing from my flight to and from to were I stay to contacts in SOUSA please let me hear it. I'll thank you in advance now.
All The Best!
Cap[/QUOTE]
If you want Anonymity, don't come here! Mucho chica network
Already, the Haitian Hottie has caught me twice with the RD Jackhammer! Both are spending time in Cabarete, where my gf is housed. What is a Monger to do? In 2 years, this never happened in Buenos Aires.
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]ZIPHEARD, thanks for the report on the Club Residencial. I work in Nigeria
and have to move to the DR. Sousa will be my new home do to tax purpose.
I'm trying to reseach the Sousa here. Any info. fellow mongers can provide will
be very helpful. English will do just find for me in my new home. And the
German and Dutch speak vastly alike. But this is not the place for this discussion.
Thanks
Cap[/QUOTE]
Captain,
Give Amber Guardian a try also. [url]www.amberguardian.com[/url]
They are big on the north coast - have alot of the best properties. They can give you decent deals on ST or LT rentals. They also handle purchases.
Late in the afternoon to 9pm, I have seen in the main street open air restaurants. Later, in Bamboo.
Has anyone been to the Blue Dalphin Club? It is suppose to be an upscale gentelman's club in Sosua.
What are the room rates?
Is it O.K. to visit the bar if you're not staying there?
Is there take out?
It looks nice.
[url]http://www.a3tnet.com/bluedolphin.htm[/url]
Regards,
Brian
I am still looking for a place to stay for the week I will be in the DR so I sent them an e-mail after seeing your post. I asked them the same questions. I will let you know what I find out if you're interested. If there isn't anyone here on the board that has stayed there or has any info on it, I may in the spirit of the board, TOFTT and book a few nights there next week. Then I can post some info that will be helpful to others.
Dpilzbo
Another option is new garden hotel. i called in there today. they have wi-fi air con and girl friendly. $45 per night. he is booked up until the 22nd.
[url]www.newgardenhotel.com[/url] if this helps. also central to action!
heard it is full of Wops!
[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]I am still looking for a place to stay for the week I will be in the DR so I sent them an e-mail after seeing your post. I asked them the same questions. I will let you know what I find out if you're interested. If there isn't anyone here on the board that has stayed there or has any info on it, I may in the spirit of the board, TOFTT and book a few nights there next week. Then I can post some info that will be helpful to others.
Dpilzbo[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have seen many reports about that place. I have that as a last minute option for me if I decide to stay in the city itself. I look forward to your review of NewGarden since it will probably be the most current relative to my trip.
This address may work better if you want an English version of the hotel's website : [url]www.newgardenhotel.net[/url]. I think your link was a different hotel but I was not sure since it was in a language foreign to me. I'll keep in touch, so far you are the only person from the board that will be down there when I am I think.
Dpilzbo
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]Another option is new garden hotel. i called in there today. they have wi-fi air con and girl friendly. $45 per night. he is booked up until the 22nd.....[/QUOTE]
I think this is the right address [url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net[/url]
[QUOTE=Ponderosa]I think this is the right address [url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net[/url][/QUOTE]
This is not centrally located hotel. It is on the way to Voramar and it is somewhere bteween Plaza Caribe and Voramar. You need a motoconcho everytime when you want to go to the beach, disco, bar, Sosua centre etc...
Only 1/2 block from Rocky's and Pedro Clisante. Two miles from the Voramar.
[QUOTE=Andy S]This is not centrally located hotel. It is on the way to Voramar and it is somewhere bteween Plaza Caribe and Voramar. You need a motoconcho everytime when you want to go to the beach, disco, bar, Sosua centre etc...[/QUOTE]You must be thinking of a different hotel. New Garden Hotel is a one block walk to the action. IMO New Garden Hotel is one of the best places to stay.
I'm booked there for a July trip...
Girl friendly? Nope.
New Garden used to be called Garden Keti. I think the owner got a new wife who didn't like the hotel being named after the old wife. Just up from Rocky's.
I'm looking at going back to el salvador for a trip but I've been missing the DR alot. I've been staying away due to the weather forecast. The trip would be for a little over 3 weeks.
1. What are the days really like....afternoon rain everyday...can I plan an outdoor trip or probably not?
2. Can a girl hang out the entire night if you get her in your room before 12
3. I know sosua has a supermarket but last time I was there food was running $12/15 US a plate in an average restaurant. I assume inflation would have risen those prices since ? I do like the little joints but not in excess.
Rain in DR or rain in El Salvador I cant decide both are humid and both have good sex.
There are a few place in Sosua that you can eat for cheap. La Graviola serves cheap dominican food. The chicken place on Pedro Clisante, near where "The Palace" use to be serves a half bbq chicken for 100 pesos and a big glass bottle of coke for 20 pesos. Less than 4 dollars for a big meal.
[QUOTE=DR Monger II]There are a few place in Sosua that you can eat for cheap. La Graviola serves cheap dominican food. The chicken place on Pedro Clisante, near where "The Palace" use to be serves a half bbq chicken for 100 pesos and a big glass bottle of coke for 20 pesos. Less than 4 dollars for a big meal.[/QUOTE]
......its Pollo Pedro's! :) That guy has done pretty well for himself. Used to be located on the opposite side of the street. All you need to do is get a couple grills,set up a canopy tent over your cookers, set up about 6 plastic tables with chairs - and your in business!
Respectable chicken for cheap! Just make sure your chicken is cooked thoroughly though, I've had a few friends who have had some bad experiences eating there. :(
cheers............
[QUOTE=Anvil]Can anyone tell me if Sosua by the sea is girl friendly or if there is a way to sneak one in if not.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
It was semi GF when I stayed there a few years ago. First nite, I bribed the guy, but second night, he would not let my friend and I back with 2 chicas...big hassle...and it wasnt that nice for the premium pricing besides having huge rooms...
Few years ago All Inclusive resorts were GF. But recently they do not want any Dominican girls as guests especially with tourists. I guess the image of family friendly goes away.
I used to bribe the security guys especially at night to get the girls in. But no more.
Best way is to befriend the guy who gives you the armband when you check in and let him slip you few armbands. This you can put on the girl and the girl can stay and eat as long as she likes. Also make sure when you check in he notes down as checking in as two people although you paid for only one. Sometimes the strict security guys ask the front desk check on these.
There are some dominican girls who pay their own way and stay at the resorts. You can usually meet them in the disco. They usually stay only on the weekends.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]New Garden used to be called Garden Keti. I think the owner got a new wife who didn't like the hotel being named after the old wife. Just up from Rocky's.[/QUOTE]Actually they built a new garden on the lot next door, hence the name change. I see last week they put in a new sewer line - the new sign has been ordered!
[QUOTE=Zip Head]I checked this place out the last time I was in Sosua (Fall of 2006). I have been staying at the Europa, which is central and convenient, but has its faults and is a bit rundown. I took a short tour of Club Residencial and it is VERY nice, especially for local standards. They have several classes of rooms, poolside, non-poolside, I think some two room apts and overall the place looked much nicer than any local properties I've been in, but they were a bit pricier...can't remember exact numbers, but in the vicinity of $60 U.S. per night, depending on the season.
They have full time security out front all the time and it is chica friendly, but the cedulas (id) are required and held at the front desk. This is a good thing, for most of us.
Although I've never stayed there, it looked great and I would recommend it.[/QUOTE]I checked out this place a while ago and was impressed, however after asking around I heard a lot of comments about the chica friendly policy being at the discretion of the woman manager. Everyone said they had problems with her.
Bar Hours
Just to correct a few reports here. The bars in this country stay open until 1:00 from Sunday to Thursday, and 2:00 on Friday and Saturday. The casinos can stay open until 4:00 so they have now added discos which means, in the case of Sosua, there is a one o clock rush hour of motoconchos to and from Playa Chiquita. BTW the standard cost is 50 pesos one way.
In my four months here this winter I have not seen many bars staying open later. This seems to be one of the few laws in this country which is consistantly enforced. Often the bars will pass out plastic cups so you can leave the premises with your drink at closing time.
Sorry to repeat the same questions but I never really got a solid response to them. I'm looking into booking a trip in the next few weeks to either buenos aires,el salvador or back to the DR. Buenos aires seems the most promising but the hotel situation has gotten pretty expensive and Im not into renting an apartment. I cant justify spending that kind of $ or can I ?
1. The weather the weather the weather in DR. Yes I know its raining and Ive been there during rain storms so I know it can be very intense. However what Im not getting from the weather forecast is are there any patches of sun throughout the day ? Are people getting a sun tan at all or are they just sitting around drinking beer at a beach bar with overcast skies. If someone is down there now that would be a big help. Thanks
2. Another member posted a question about inflation. I've read about it on ******** What are mongers experiencing relating to daily expenses...chicas,beer,food. By the way I dont eat a half chicken and a soda and call it a meal. I cant be drinking for 3 weeks and survive on fried foods. I'm not that type.
3. Has anyone heard of an apartment complex called "perla de sosua"
Thanks sorry to be repetitive but Ive been running into kinks everywhere Im looking to go. Knowhere is perfect but at least I know wherever I go I will have thought it out.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Sorry to repeat the same questions but I never really got a solid response to them. I'm looking into booking a trip in the next few weeks to either buenos aires,el salvador or back to the DR. Buenos aires seems the most promising but the hotel situation has gotten pretty expensive and Im not into renting an apartment. I cant justify spending that kind of $ or can I ?
1. The weather the weather the weather in DR. Yes I know its raining and Ive been there during rain storms so I know it can be very intense. However what Im not getting from the weather forecast is are there any patches of sun throughout the day ? Are people getting a sun tan at all or are they just sitting around drinking beer at a beach bar with overcast skies. If someone is down there now that would be a big help. Thanks
2. Another member posted a question about inflation. I've read about it on ******** What are mongers experiencing relating to daily expenses...chicas,beer,food. By the way I dont eat a half chicken and a soda and call it a meal. I cant be drinking for 3 weeks and survive on fried foods. I'm not that type.
3. Has anyone heard of an apartment complex called "perla de sosua"
Thanks sorry to be repetitive but Ive been running into kinks everywhere Im looking to go. Knowhere is perfect but at least I know wherever I go I will have thought it out.[/QUOTE]
There are usually breaks in the rain but doubtful if you have enough time to get a tan.... but it seems you will be there 3 weeks.... you will get good sun days.
Food, chicas and drink... you will need at least $100-150 for girls.... $30 for food will get you good meals.... Rocky's etc for breakfast, decent lunch and good dinner... though you have an apartment with a kitchen buy from the grocery store and have your TLN cook you breakfast in the morning and maybe your beach bunny afternooner makes dinner....
Have not heard of the hotel/apartments
Great thank you.
Have been to the DR many, many times and all the year round the weather is nearly always hot and sunny all day. BUT sometimes there are spells of rainy weather, which has been the case recently. In all probability it will be hot and sunny a few weeks hence, but you can never guarantee anything as far as weather is concerned.
Near the Shark Bar and Secrets. She is fat, stocky, and very ugly, and wearing a dress. First, she agressively propositions you. When that failed, she grabbed my balls hard and simultaneousy uses her other hand to frisk your pocket. She failed but you may not be as lucky! I wanted to ''punch her out'' but I was afraid the Policia would support her, not me.
Has anyone stayed at new garden hotel and experienced motoconcho noise from a room facing away from the street?
Do you think u$50 bills will be accepted ?
As always thanks.
I just returned tonight from twelve days in the "ring" with my wingman (Senior Ford). I have always loved this place, and argumentatively no one knows this destination better, but even I am growing tired of the constant
"scams", high prices and foolish taxes. When you are there, you are simply spending "Monopoly Money", but when you get back and realize what you are paying for a domestic beer in the supermarket, it plainly is robbery. this place will never recover from that one golden winter we had when the peso was 52 to 1.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]I just returned tonight from twelve days in the "ring" with my wingman (Senior Ford). I have always loved this place, and argumentatively no one knows this destination better, but even I am growing tired of the constant
"scams", high prices and foolish taxes. When you are there, you are simply spending "Monopoly Money", but when you get back and realize what you are paying for a domestic beer in the supermarket, it plainly is robbery. this place will never recover from that one golden winter we had when the peso was 52 to 1.[/QUOTE]
Yeah great exchange rate and much lower prices... it was bliss... now you have to go further south to get those prices... Colombia or Equador
Sat. about 10pm
It won't be long before Medellin is next at the rate we are going. I have been there so much in the last two years, but equador, maybe so.... you don't go to quito do you?
I do have a location in paraquay, and one in northern chile that are still like the 52 to 1 days of sosua (even better really), but I hesitate to share them just yet. I have watched medellin go from bargain basement to $100 rooms with $150.00 *****s in less than 12 months. So very sad, as I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer, and for me personally, the best in any hemisphere. its a matter of taste, and my taste is now and will always be "Latino".
[QUOTE=Fantasy]It won't be long before Medellin is next at the rate we are going. I have been there so much in the last two years, but equador, maybe so.... you don't go to quito do you?
I do have a location in paraquay, and one in northern chile that are still like the 52 to 1 days of sosua (even better really), but I hesitate to share them just yet. I have watched medellin go from bargain basement to $100 rooms with $150.00 *****s in less than 12 months. So very sad, as I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer, and for me personally, the best in any hemisphere. its a matter of taste, and my taste is now and will always be "Latino".[/QUOTE]
.........[i]I am one of the few who rate Colombia over Brasil as the best quality this hemisphere has to offer....its a matter of taste and my taste will always be "Latino".[/i]
...er, uh......you did mean "Latin(a)" didn't you? :eek:
(you're scaring me, this is a side of you I never saw) (lol)
Since there is talk about Colombia here what would be the best place (safe) to go in Colombia (i really liked Cabarete vs. Sosua in Dr) .
John Jr
[QUOTE=John Jr]Since there is talk about Colombia here what would be the best place (safe) to go in Colombia (i really liked Cabarete vs. Sosua in Dr) .
John Jr[/QUOTE]Might br better to ask this in the Columbia section!
Miss hangin with you guys! Sorry, BF about all the ''crap'' on the AR board. Just some machismo!
Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.
Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.
My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.
I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.
How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?
Thanks,
Cap!
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.
Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.
My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.
I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.
How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?
Thanks,
Cap![/QUOTE]
to reach the beach in sosua from the hotel voramar it takes you round about 30 minutes depending on how fast you walk. the casino in sosua is right next to the voramar (playa chiquita) and has a nightclub too which is open till 4 am in the morning.
You think!? Listen Capt. If you are new in town you automatically stand out. If you dont speak Spanish you stand out. If you are NOT Dominicano, you will stand out. I do understand your concerns. They are to some degree legitimate but dont worry. Not going with every chica actually garners respect from some of the girls and increases your chances of selecting the "right" one. If you opt to walk alone at night, make sure that it is for short distance and in reasonably lit areas. Same city rules as anywhere apply. Studying Spanish? You will need this very simple phrase more than an other in DR. No, gracias. For what its worth. I stand out more than anyone in any crowd in any country. Beleive me.
[QUOTE=Boriman]How far is Casa Linda from DClassico? What is cost per night? What is the chica policy? How can I get in contact with them? How is the air conditioning?[/QUOTE]I stayed at Casa LInda in november 2006, it's the best. Chica friendly no problems at all, 3 bedroom villa, kitchen, dinningroom, 2 bathrooms, and swimming pool with big backyard for about $1050 for the week, you have to get your own food and stock the house, with three or four people that should not be a problem at all. They also have armed guards at the front gate with shot guns.
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]Thanks everyone for you earlier comments. Ford I will use your reccomendations
for long term rentals.
Everyone, I'm going to Sousa this week and staying at a chica friendly hotel.
I'm going down to check things out. A friend and co-worker lives in Sousa.
He will be in West Africa were we work for this trip. So I'm on my own.
My concerns, I don't drink allot due to meds. But can be socialable and have
a couple. I'm really not going to try to pick up a girl every night. But, I'm sure
I may meet one who I can't say no to. In these regards I'm afraid I may put
folks off and seem stuck up to the culture there.What do you think? I don't want to ride the back of a cycle or use a taxi. This may [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] some off.
These things will make me standout rather than blending in.
I may end up living there. I'm reading Espanol now. This forum is the best for
the real skinny on the streets of any country.
How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?
Thanks,
Cap![/QUOTE]
Cap,
Stand out? Once you get down to Sosua and walk around that place you'll soon realize how silly your concerns are. Don't worry, you won't have any problems.
Sosua and the neighboring town of Cabarete are tourist (primarilly European tourist) "hotbeds." You will be in the company of literally hundreds of neophytes "shuffling" along in their slide sandals, cargo shorts and crumpled tee-shirts. Many don't speak much Spanish, many don't speak any Spanish.
You say you don't drink much due to medication - well that's good! At one point on this board you were given the impression that being drunk and disorderly was a means of public acceptance in Sosua? (lol) If you are socialable but "fly below the radar" down there you'll be fine.
The one issue that might present a problem is the fact that you don't take taxi's or motoconchos. This may present a logistical issue of getting around.
This strikes me as a bit strange. How do you get around in other LA countries?
From the center of town, the Casino is too far to walk (especially at night) and it is located down a dirt road that floods (ALOT):eek: I don't know that I'd want to be walking there - and certainly wouldn't want to be walking back from there- especially if its 4am, I have a little Dominicana Hottie on my arm, I've already dropped 25mg of "V" and I'm ready for [i]"sexy time!"[/i] :D
I think you should reconsider your motoconcho phobia - not for the purposes of blending in - but for the purpose of enjoying your stay.
Have a great trip.............
[QUOTE=Ford]Cap,
Stand out? Once you get down to Sosua and walk around that place you'll soon realize how silly your concerns are. Don't worry, you won't have any problems.
Sosua and the neighboring town of Cabarete are tourist (primarilly European tourist) "hotbeds." You will be in the company of literally hundreds of neophytes "shuffling" along in their slide sandals, cargo shorts and crumpled tee-shirts. Many don't speak much Spanish, many don't speak any Spanish.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Ford is right. And that's the problem. Full of short-term gringos on a quick beach and pop holiday, throwing money around, without much respect for where they are.
IMHO. Sadly,
#2128
[QUOTE=Capt Dps]How far of a walk from Voramar to Sousa beach? How are the Casinos?
Thanks,
Cap![/QUOTE]Be EXTREMELY careful with regards to Casinos in DR. A large number of casinos in DR have a major scam running there and they have fleeced thousands of tourists. I have posted a couple of detailed reports on this site on this subject. Check them out. Also, check out the site [url]http://www.superkenoscam.com/[/url] for further details.
Other than that, Sosua is a very tourist friendly town and I wouldn't worry about standing out or not having much Spanish.
Good luck.
Member #2128 - Sosua was ruined along time ago by "overpaying short staying" Gringos.
There are still a few of us that respect the laws of the jungle and try to maintain reasonable pricing but it ain't easy.
The reputation that Sosua has with tourists is that Sosua is a place where the girls are "easy".
The reputation that Sosua has with the working girls is that Sosua is a place where the tourists are "dopey."
........its sadly changed alot in the past 5 years. :(
I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price.
Highlights of my most recent trip included taking three gorgeous young women to a cabana and rolling around on a bed with them for a couple of hours doing it all, and then a todo la noche with two gorgeous, horny women, fucking one at bedtime and the other in the morning after sleeping between them. When you consider that this activity combined cost a little less than $250 and compare to the cost of an hour with an escort in the US, this is great value--and an overwhelming experience.
Maybe it can be done better and cheaper somewhere else, but the DR is close to the eastern USA, so is convenient.
Try it, you might get used to it.
Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a proit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.
[QUOTE=Bar Stool 101]Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a profit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.[/QUOTE]Ment to use the word "profit"
"I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price"
Here, here. Well said.
But the title is a bit misleading, because there IS no demise of Sosua. I was there until Thursday and there is no single feeling like walking into Classico's or the other discos in town and seeing the wide range of beautiful Dominican women, of all colors, shapes, and sizes at your beckoning.
Sosua is a good balance. It is a town without pretenses, where if all you want is P4P.- simply step outside of your hotel or to a local bar/disco.- and make your play. But we also have to remember that the tourist area is just a tiny piece of Sosua, and there are beautiful women in all parts of the city. A man with a bit of confidence, game, reasonably good looks and above all. Patience can have a respectable fling with a respectable Dominicana.
And above this, there are beaches, casinos, cheap beer, almost consistent sun.
Come on. Where is the demise?
[QUOTE=Bar Stool 101]Lou at the Shark bar raised its price for a Presidente beer to 100 pesos. Where does he get off charging such as high price. What happened to his quote on his web site? " Intention is to bring American guys together so they can have a place to shoot the shit and listin to American music (That much he did). Then it went on to say his goal was "not to make a proit but to break even". Why is he hitting his own friends over the head with his prices? I will no longer spend my money there.[/QUOTE]As you mentioned it is Lou's bar and he can set his price where he wants and you can choose whether you want to drink there. My feeling is that most of the guys who drink there will continue to. I think Lou knows what he is doing.
G
Can anyone in Sosua at this time tell me how the Tropicana is doing these days.
The place never seemed to get busy until 11:00 and it has to close at 1:00 or 2:00, tough to make it work with only 2 hours of business per day.
The owner is decent guy, hope he can make it work through the slow season.
G
[QUOTE=Mr Majik]"I think the demise of Sosua is a bit overstated. It is still a place where you can go and live out your sexual fantasies with attractive young women at a very reasonable price"
Here, here. Well said.
But the title is a bit misleading, because there IS no demise of Sosua. I was there until Thursday and there is no single feeling like walking into Classico's or the other discos in town and seeing the wide range of beautiful Dominican women, of all colors, shapes, and sizes at your beckoning.
Sosua is a good balance. It is a town without pretenses, where if all you want is P4P.- simply step outside of your hotel or to a local bar/disco.- and make your play. But we also have to remember that the tourist area is just a tiny piece of Sosua, and there are beautiful women in all parts of the city. A man with a bit of confidence, game, reasonably good looks and above all. Patience can have a respectable fling with a respectable Dominicana.
And above this, there are beaches, casinos, cheap beer, almost consistent sun.
Come on. Where is the demise?[/QUOTE]
Mr M,
Your point is well taken. I guess if you read from my comments that I was predicting a demise - this wasn't my intention. Sosua will always have its advocates, its supporters and I know several guys who are "wordly" experienced, have some $$$ - but will travel no where else! They still love Sosua, always will.
Imo, as compared to past years - prices are up and quality is down overall. But it can still be found. Look at the photo gallery thread. I found my girl Daniella is Sosua, and I'd consider her to be reasonably good "quality".
If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!
There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)
The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.
cheers..........
Hi,
I´m going to Sosua on june 15, now I have some questions as my last visit was back in 2002.
I´m planing to take a Taxi from Puerto Plata to Sosua, whats a "normal" fare for this ride?
In 2002 the High Caribbean Disco was the place to go, what Clubs are "hot" today?
As everyone has to close at 1AM, will the bars/clubs open earlier than before?
Anyone has a town map of Sosua ?
Thanks for your answers
Don Rapha
[QUOTE=Ford]Mr M,
Your point is well taken. I guess if you read from my comments that I was predicting a demise - this wasn't my intention. Sosua will always have its advocates, its supporters and I know several guys who are "wordly" experienced, have some $$$ - but will travel no where else! They still love Sosua, always will.
Imo, as compared to past years - prices are up and quality is down overall. But it can still be found. Look at the photo gallery thread. I found my girl Daniella is Sosua, and I'd consider her to be reasonably good "quality".
If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!
There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)
The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.
cheers..........[/QUOTE]
I have to agree... having been to both and the flight only being 2 hours longer it is worth it... a lot of beauty and cheaper....
Can anyone tell me how far is Casa Linda from the action in Sosua? The villas there look beautiful and I like the fact that I have all the privacy I want. I never stayed near Sosua while in DR. I'm usually in Costambar and wanted to try something different when I return in the fall.
I also would like to know how far is Casa Linda from Cabarete and are there any good looking girls there? I keep hearing how beautiful it is there also.
And last is it necessary for me to rent a car or will a taxi be okay? Because my novia lives and works in POP and I might want to go grab her maybe a night or two on my visit, or ride to BB's and grab someone that I've been wanting but never had a chance to get because of some distractions. LOL!
A couple of answers.
Don Rapha - I was there last week. High Caribe is closed. (moss growing on steps) It opened recently for a short period of time but is closed again. Its sad I really liked that place. Its just not in a good location, alittle out of the way. The place now is the Merengue Bar and the Latino's Club. Both places close about 1am , 2am on weekends.
Then the action switches over to the Playa Chiquita Casino which (because of a series of envelopes given to the right government officials, no doubt) is exempt from the new ordinance and is open til 4 or 5am.
Nothing quite like Dominican law. :rolleyes:
A couple of answers.
Third World - Residencia Casa Linda is a stylish series of mini-homes located up a dirt road on the way out of Sosua headed towards Cabarete. The entire complex has 24 hour security and is gated.
The complex is fairly convenient to all but I sure wouldn't depend on taxi's. I would rent a car. Taking motoconchos back and forth from your place up that dirt road would be quite a chore and you said that you have a novia in POP - so you sure wouldn't want to be taking a cab there every night.
Cabarete didn't have much in the way of quality when I was there - it was all in Sosua.
Casa Linda will definitely "fill the bill" for security and privacy. You say the last time you were in the DR you stayed in Costambar (can't understand what in the "3rd" world you were doing there ;)- talk about the middle of nowhere - I assume you were at BB's) , this trip you will be much more centrally located and much closer to the action! :)
...........enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Ford] If there is a drop-off in the popularity of Sosua in the coming years - it won't come from overpaying travelers who fly in from JFK, LGA, or EWR it will ultimately come from the jungles of Colombia!
There has been an astonishing improvement in the overall safety and security in that country due to Pres Uribe's "política de la mano duro" and travel has swelled to cities like Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla as a result. Major airlines such as AA are increasing their scheduled flights to keep up with the increased demand, and the quality of the woman in this country has always been exquisite! :)
The emergence of Colombia as a viable "monger" destination (imo) threatens many of the popular DR locations and will continue to be a drag for years to come.
[/QUOTE]
Can't agree more with Ford, one of our best analyst of this part of the world!
Ford,
I actually stayed at the Caribbean Sun apartments last month in Costambar but did make several trips around the corner when my novia left to go to work! LOL!
I did BB's a couple times and don't get me wrong it's cool but management be on some bullshyt sometimes.......
I went to Sosua one Saturday night, hit the clubs, and had a ball plus brought a little cutie back so...
This time I wanna try something different and get the whole experience of that action so Casa Linda is what it will be!
Thanks for your response!
Hi everyone,
Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?
Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?
And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?
Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?
Have not really seen Asian imports... there are Russian ones at the real highend all sex inclusives.....
Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?
The people at the Europa can help organise a road trip.
And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?
BBs is not a club. it is a hotel like Europa that has girls onsite until late night. It is about 30 minutes or so away from Sousa... cost about $30 at least to get there by cab.
[QUOTE=Escort King]I'll be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3. Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel and I was interested in other cuture womens, because I'm going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace? Have not really seen Asian imports. There are Russian ones at the real highend all sex inclusives.
Where are the Waterfalls, I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?
The people at the Europa can help organise a road trip.
And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?
BBs is not a club. It is a hotel like Europa that has girls onsite until late night. It is about 30 minutes or so away from Sousa. Cost about $30 at least to get there by cab. [/QUOTE]There are a couple of girls who hang out in front of the Europa who offer massage and more.
There are a couple of massage places over the barbershop near the cross roads a few blocks towards the beach from the Europa. Kika does not do sex (I don't think) but does excellent massage 1hour for 500 pesos that is worth every peso.
If you proceed up the street from the Europa away from the beach there is a new "massage" place a couple of blocks away, then next to that is Passion massage, where you can get an orange juice and a blow job.
Going back the other way towards the beach, there is a new "massage" place near the Classico disco, but I can't tell you how good it is.
My recommendation, for what it is worth is this: If you want a real massage, go to Kika. If you want sex, get your own girl from the street, bars, disco, casino and take them to your room. And remember that while you can't take all the girls from the disco at night, there is nothing to stop you making arrangements to see one or two the next afternoon at your hotel.
The only waterfalls I know of for sure are at Limon near Las Terrenas, which is a long way from Sosua. Maybe there is something local.
Blackbeards is about 25 miles from Sosua. You can cover the Sosua to Puerto Plata leg of the journey, which is 4/5 of the distance, in a public taxi, that costs only 30 pesos ($1) each way, if you want to save money. However your choice of girls at night in Sosua is infinitely superior to what you woud find at Blackbeard's at night. Blackbeard's is a good place to stay, especially if you are new to the DR, but offers less to the non resident visitor. You might want to go there for a day trip just to see it, if you are curious.
[QUOTE=Man Can Bang]Hi everyone,
Ill be in Sousa at Hotel Europa 5/26--6/3.Are there any xxx massage palor near the hotel [red] sure, there is one right up the road on Pedro Clisante[/red]and I was interested in other cuture womens, because Im going to be banging the Hati and DR GIRLS and I want to change the pace?[red]Want a change of pace from one culture? Try Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama - Sosua has "stay at home" girls working here[/red] ;)
Where are the Waterfalls,I would love to take some pics and have some fun with the girls near some waterfalls?[red]You are referring to the famous white water rafting and cascadas (waterfalls) of Jarabacoa no doubt! They are located in the central valley near the town of La Vega and south of Santiago. 80 miles from Sosua by car.[/red]
And how far is Blackbeard from Hotel Europa and what is the Clubs hours, is Blackbeard all that?[red]Skip BB's. Its not all that! Their swimsuit contest on Saturday's is kind of fun - but BB's is located in Costambar (you'll never find it) way out of the way. If you go make sure you throw popcorn out the window of the car, so you'll be able to find your way back! (lol):D[/red] [/QUOTE]
In short, MCB if this is your maiden voyage to Sosua - stick around the town. There is no need to venture far, except maybe to Cabarete one night for dinner. You'll have fun and you'll find some quality. If you want to take a day-trip to the waterfalls of Jarabacoa I have no doubt that The Europa could set it up. Enjoy your trip!
cheers.......
Hi All,
I am going to BB 5/29 - 5/31 and was looking to see who else might be there.
I am not new to the hobby, but new to the hobby in DR. I have hobbied all over the world Latin America included and have been on this board since '92 and the Atta days. I have had to limit posting and change names to keep things under cover if you know what I mean). I understand the BB's is for the "spoon feed" monger and I am OK with that for this visit but would like to get out and about to Sosua and PoP with someone that knows there way around. If I can't hook up with someone that's ok too. I am used to going it alone in and out of the USA.
Hit me up if you want to hook up.
Mike77,
If you've been all over LA and a member of this board since the Atta days then I'm guessing your Spanish is pretty solid too.
BB's is very much for the "spoon fed" monger. I don't think your going to enjoy it there. You should consider staying in Sosua, and driving into BB's for their Saturday swimsuit contest and lunch. When you see where Costambar is, and how far away you are from [b][i]everything[/i][/b] you'll wish you made other arrangements I'm sorry to say.
Anybody who knows me and my contributions to this board over the years - knows I NEVER have anything to tout or any "axe to grind." The owner of BB's is a real nice guy, they serve very tasty food and have a nice stylish little complex - but I don't think its for you - you'll be too isolated out there, and bored!
If you go, hit me with a PM when you get back. I'd like to know if my advice was on target or not my friend.
cheers,
FORD
Any decent restaurants besides El Toro?
Many Thanks
Ford is absolutely right. BB's is nice but in the middle of a sleepy expat suburban setting. Sosua, at least for awhile, is vibrant with street life and possibility within easy walking distance. BB's is perfect for a newbie but very limited for someone with LA travel experience.
I've just return from forty days in the north of the D.R.
Two things that may help newbies to this area.
Forget BB'S! to far out, in the middle of nowhere.
Forget Voramar! to far out and know A/C.
Remember everyone wants your money.
The hotels will even burn you.
Watch your peso!
Carberete will be my new home in the near future.
Cap
[QUOTE=Danesi77]Any decent restaurants besides El Toro?
Many Thanks[/QUOTE]Lots more places in Sosua, I think I counted over 30 within a 5 minute walk from my hotel.
Try:
La Finca- (next to Codetel)Good place for a romantic dinner
Baileys - (across from Codetel) Consistant quality and service at reasonable price
La Roca - ( On the corner coming off the beach)Great place to people watch
Andys - (Next door to Passions massage), may be closed now
Albertos Tipico - (On Pedro Clisante nr Classico disco) Always good
Brittania ( across from Classico) In my opinion best every day food in town, daily specials are usually 200 pesos ($ 6)
Hope this helps
G
Like I said from day 1, this well maintained, nicely layed out, well managed resort is located in (BF,Egypt)
Always remember the three golden rules,
Location, Location, Location.................
Capt Dps
I feel the same way about CABARETE .
John Jr
Field of Dreams has been sold to the guiys that run Crytstal's and will be doing all-inclusives.... get the girl and room and food....
though not in Sousa it is not too far....
Who is allready in Club Residencial ? I miss my Girlfriend Zelandia.
She work there a lot of Years.
If somebody know a Apartment there for Sale -not from the Office-only from Privat can send me a privat Message.Untill 60000 U$
[QUOTE=Escort King]Field of Dreams has been sold to the guiys that run Crytstal's and will be doing all-inclusives.... get the girl and room and food....
though not in Sousa it is not too far....[/QUOTE]
That's it EK. His name is Lino, and he's a real nice guy and a friend. But with all due respest to him - to really enjoy FOD - you'd have to be comfortable with that type of dynamic. (an all-inclusive place)
Not all of us are. The one [b]huge[/b] advantage Lino has with FOD over McBrides "Blackbeards" is the location.
FOD's is near Playa Dorado and as such is near Puerto Plata and Sosua. Blackbeard's is in Costambar and as such is close to just about nothing. :(
I wish Lino success with his new venture.
[QUOTE=Ford]That's it EK. His name is Lino, and he's a real nice guy and a friend. But with all due respest to him - to really enjoy FOD - you'd have to be comfortable with that type of dynamic. (an all-inclusive place)
Not all of us are. The one [b]huge[/b] advantage Lino has with FOD over McBrides "Blackbeards" is the location.
FOD's is near Playa Dorado and as such is near Puerto Plata and Sosua. Blackbeard's is in Costambar and as such is close to just about nothing. :(
I wish Lino success with his new venture.[/QUOTE]
It appears the national tourist minister has closed the
"Mustang Ranch" before it opened.
Reasons?
1. the location is too darn blatant, right across from Megabuck development Playa Dorada. Too threatening to a huge megabucks development.
2. if the location wasn't provocative enought, let's call it something really obvious, like Mustang "look I'm a *****house!" Ranch.
How absurdly stupid.
Like it or not, you can't put *****houses on the front door of million dollar businesses and expect not to get shot down.
Hell, even teh original Mustang Ranch is in the middle of nowhere!
D'ya thing they could put in across from a casino and expect to survive?
These types of establishments have to be inconspicuous.
BB survives BECAUSE it IS "in the middle of nowhere"!
As long as they remain (relatively) inconspicuous, they don't draw (too much) crap from the BIG business interests and officials.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69]It appears the national tourist minister has closed the
"Mustang Ranch" before it opened.
Reasons?
1. the location is too darn blatant, right across from Megabuck development Playa Dorada. Too threatening to a huge megabucks development.
2. if the location wasn't provocative enought, let's call it something really obvious, like Mustang "look I'm a *****house!" Ranch.
How absurdly stupid.
Like it or not, you can't put *****houses on the front door of million dollar businesses and expect not to get shot down.
Hell, even teh original Mustang Ranch is in the middle of nowhere!
D'ya thing they could put in across from a casino and expect to survive?
These types of establishments have to be inconspicuous.
BB survives BECAUSE it IS "in the middle of nowhere"!
As long as they remain (relatively) inconspicuous, they don't draw (too much) crap from the BIG business interests and officials.[/QUOTE]
Is there a news link for this?
[QUOTE=Escort King]Is there a news link for this?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html[/url]
Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69][url]http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html[/url]
Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.[/QUOTE]
Gotta love the translation of Puerto Plata as "Port Silver".
[QUOTE=Yanqui69][url]http://www.periodicoelfaro.info/news/118/ARTICLE/1138/2007-05-29.html[/url]
Translation:
The Secretariat of State of Tourism closed east Tuesday the construction of the denominated project “Crystal Mustang Ranch Resort”, located in the neighborhoods of the Complex Golden Beach, in Port Silver. The closing act was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, Bernardita lawyer Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community. “We received several complaints of the community with respect to the construction of this project, which was being built without no type of permissions that instead of elevating the quality of the tourist product of the zone went in damage of the same one, because it was a project directed to prostitution and to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman”, showed Abbott de Finke. It lamented that situations as this happens, distorting the reality of a country, not only as vacacional destiny but of its people, since this type of projects is shameful and in anything they correspond with the international and professional promotion that is making the Dominican Republic in the different emitting markets from tourists.[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate.... hope Billy got paid up front... otherwise they back out and he has his spot compromised.
[QUOTE=Frannie]Gotta love the translation of Puerto Plata as "Port Silver".[/QUOTE]
Well, that is what it means in Spanish.
Playa Dorada or "Golden Beach" in Spanish, got auto-translated as "Gilded Beach"
[QUOTE=Escort King]Thanks mate.... hope Billy got paid up front... otherwise they back out and he has his spot compromised.[/QUOTE]
I think the understanding is Billy got paid.
-But I wouldn't want to be in the buyer's shoes.
Hey Yanqui. Great find on that article!
(In sum and substance. This is [i]my[/i] translation of the article from the original Spanish. Originally appeared in El Faro Digital, Tuesday May 29.)
The Crystal "Mustang style Ranch" was blocked from being developed any further. The closing of the new Crystal Complex was headed by the undersecretary of State of Tourism for the North zone, lawyer Bernardita Abbott de Finke, who emphasized the support offered by the Association of Hotels and Gilded Beach Proprietors, as well as of all the leaders and leaders of that community.
"We received several complaints from the community with respect to the construction of this project. It was a project that would not do anything towards elevating the quality of the tourist zone, in which it was built. Rather, it would do damage to this area, because it was a project directed to prostitution and it would work to denigrate the image of the Dominican woman", expalined Abbott de Finke. "It is sad that this situation was able to get as far as it did. Establishments like this one in the DR effectively distort the reality of our country. Projects like these are shameful and work against those of us who are trying to promote a atmosphere of professionalism for the Dominican people throughout the International community, and promote a positive atmosphere for tourism."
Oh well, so much for that. Lino isn't happy I'm sure. :(
cheers,
FORD
Less than a month ago Ford and I sat in Cristals and told Lino that this would never Fly. His answer was. "Yes it will, I am Dominican".
Ford, is this not the truth? I guess he did not want to take advice from two Gringos!
Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]Less than a month ago Ford and I sat in Cristals and told Lino that this would never Fly. His answer was. "Yes it will, I am Dominican".
Ford, is this not the truth? I guess he did not want to take advice from two Gringos![/QUOTE]
Fantasy, you are absolutely correct. I remember that is [i]exactly[/i] what you said to him. "But Lino, isn't your location just a bit too close to Playa Dorado? Won't you get some grief from the government?"
"No, it will be o.k., it will be no problem."
If you remember however he wasn't the only guy we spoke too - who said he wouldn't "have any problem because he's Dominican." Someone else we know down there - had the same comment. ;)
[QUOTE=Ford]Fantasy, you are absolutely correct. I remember that is [i]exactly[/i] what you said to him. "But Lino, isn't your location just a bit too close to Playa Dorado? Won't you get some grief from the government?"
"No, it will be o.k., it will be no problem."
If you remember however he wasn't the only guy we spoke too - who said he wouldn't "have any problem because he's Dominican." Someone else we know down there - had the same comment. ;)[/QUOTE]
I think the concept is a good one. I have often though that the BB model could be applied over and over again. (uh, Medellin Mansion?).
But the location was absolutely suicidal.
Like threatening a Mafia Don. Just don't do it!
You couldn't threaten/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-off a multi-million dollar developement like Playa Dorada (think it doesn't have connections with Dominicans in high places?).
If he can convert the property to a "straight" establishment, -but drop the name for something less in-your-face, there might be a chance.
It could be "chica-friendly" like FOD, but not so damn OBVIOUS.
That could work, a good quality "chica-friendly" place.
BB used to have a "black book" with girls' fotos and more suggestive fotos on the website, -and got a LOT of scrutiny from the officials, so they dropped it.
(In favor of "Bikini Contest" fotos).
Put up the front like BB that the girls don't "work" there, they just "hang around."
Dominican or not, he's got to be subtle, (have to look up the Spanish word for "inconspicuous").
[QUOTE=Usboys]Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.[/QUOTE]
Hi Usboys,
I know a gazillion places to stay in Sosua, but I think you should consider this one......
[url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm[/url]
The New Garden Hotel is guest-friendly, its very convenient (less than 100 yards from the main places) its inexpensive, clean, safe, and has a nice little outdoor pool and convenient little bar on premises.
I checked it out a few weeks ago when I was in town. A very respectable place to launch your Sosua getaway! :)
cheers...........
I understand that Ford will make is 1000th post in a small internet cafe in Buenos Aires?
Ford is New Garden far from Classico? And can you bring guess in?
[QUOTE=TheJerk]Ford is New Garden far from Classico? And can you bring guess in?[/QUOTE]
Its very close to Classico. Its just around the corner and down the street where Rocky's and the old Cowgirl Bar used to be.
Yes. It is "guest friendly."
I have stayed at the New Garden Hotel before, and will stay there again this week (6/6-6/9). The location is great, the staff are accommodating, and it is good value for the money. I have seen families enjoying this place too. Though definitely girl friendly, it is probably best for the low key monger. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
I am fixed to go to Sosúa in August but I have some questions and pardon me if they might seem too trite
1. Are the girls in Sosúa all shaven down below? I know that Americans and many Europeans prefer shaven girls, and I respect that, but for those of us who like the more natural, unshaven kind, is there any hope to find one?
2. Some members report that the Dominican girls are not as careful about feminine hygiene as, for example, Thai girls are. Does that mean that DATY is highly dangerous in DR? (by that I mean herpes and other STDs)
3. Where can you find "quality" (i.e. good-looking) Haitian girls in Sosúa? In the street? In a particular bar? Are they nicer or more jaded than Dominican girls? Would it help if I learnt some Kreyol before I went?
Thank you for your kind information.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I am fixed to go to Sosúa in August but I have some questions and pardon me if they might seem too trite
1. Are the girls in Sosúa all shaven down below? I know that Americans and many Europeans prefer shaven girls, and I respect that, but for those of us who like the more natural, unshaven kind, is there any hope to find one?
2. Some members report that the Dominican girls are not as careful about feminine hygiene as, for example, Thai girls are. Does that mean that DATY is highly dangerous in DR? (by that I mean herpes and other STDs)
3. Where can you find "quality" (i.e. good-looking) Haitian girls in Sosúa? In the street? In a particular bar? Are they nicer or more jaded than Dominican girls? Would it help if I learnt some Kreyol before I went?
Thank you for your kind information.[/QUOTE]
I've been to Sosua a couple of different times. Stayed maybe 5 weeks total over a two year period.
1. Most I found were shaven if I remember correctly. I know I don't remember encountering any jungle bushes, even though I preferred the Haitians and more or less focused on finding girls from there.
2. You can't generalize about hygiene. ALL DOMINICANS....blah blah. Like all Americans are big mouthed, blowhards who like to get drunk and throw around their money (this is what the Dominicans say about us!). I'd say DATY is not a good idea with working girls anywhere, even Thailand. For exactly the reasons you mention---STD's like gonnorea or herpes...or even worse. You don't put your dick in there without a condom, why put your TONGUE?
3. If you like the darker skinned Haitians like I do, you are in for a treat. They are everywhere! Attractive and unattractive alike. Downstairs at Classicos there seem to be more Haitians than Domincanas. Again, you can't generalize about them as a group...or you will be proven wrong. I saw a lot of "low-class" trampy, rough looking Haitianas, but steered clear. I also found an ample number of young, sweet, hotter than hot Haitiana ladies who I enjoyed a whole lot! Remember, the Haitians are the underclass in DR. They are the immigrants and the Domincans generally don't like them. If you go with a Haitiana and take her to where mostly Domincans are...you may get some attitude. Not as a rule. But it can happen.
I envy your trip!
#2128
I would like to thank Member #2128 for his kind, knowledgeable answers to my questions.
In a followup, I have some further questions, theories, and comments regarding the scene in Sosúa.
1. From Member #2128's answer, I may infer that if there are any nonshaved ladies, they are mostly to be found among Haitians if there are, indeed, any to be found. What a shame that nearly all are shaved. Oh well. I hope someone tells me that there are some that at least are not totally bald.
2. DATY is not dangerous so long as you take precautions such as using saran wrap over the vulva area. OK, it may not be anywhere as good as the real thing but it is better than dreaming about it.
3. According to Member #2128's informed answer, cute dark-skinned Haitian cuties are to be found everything, especially downstairs in Classicos. I have fallen in love, nay, fallen in lust with Helpman's "Fuck Puppet". I really would like to meet her. Her rich dark-chocolate skin and svelte, lithe body really do a wicked job on my hormones. Perhaps Member #2128 could tell us how many Haitians there look like Miss #Fuck Puppet". (Wherever did that nickname come from?). I wonder if there are any nice, non-jaded 18 or 19 year old beauties along the beach, ready for action?
Further questions and comments.
4. My question about learning some Kreyol went unanswered. Although I am perfectly fluent in Spanish (I ought to be, I live on and off in Catalonia which, for now at least, is in Northeast Spain even though, where I live, no one actually uses it in the street. Catalan is the norm there which I also know quite well), I speak fairly good French and I am very aware that Kreyol is, on the surface at least, quite different from Parisian French.
However, I have found that if one makes an attempt at the girl's language, they usually respond. I am fully aware that the girls in Sosúa are much more interested in the tourist's money than anything else (somewhere between 99% and 100%) but that one percent can, in my opinion, make a big difference. What I am after is a bit more enthusiasm, a bit more oomph in the sack.
Of course, money talks, but perhaps a nice appearance, nice clothes, nice banter, a bit of cologne and a smattering of Haitian Kreyol might go a long way towards developing some feel-good rapport, thereby resulting in some great mind-blowing sex for both. In Thailand, I found that speaking Thai often made things much better (though at other times it made some Thai girls suspicious and fearful because I could understand a lot of their comments which they did not like).
5. How is security there in Sosúa? If one wears nice clothes at night, is he a target for a mugging (of course, by nice clothes, I mean slacks, a nice shirt, but no shiny gold watches, rings, etc.) ? In Thailand, I found that a nice well-groomed appearance brought brilliant results (of course, money was also fundamental). Would that apply in Sosúa as well ?
In any case, is it safe to walk the streets at night from Classicos to, say, New Garden Hotel or Hotel Europa or is it necessary to take a cab, however short the distance might be?
6. I understand that upmarket, girl-friendly hotels would be New Garden, Residencial. Any other nicer girl-friendly hotels in Sosúa that are quite close to the action? I understand the Hotel Europa is for the more budget-minded.
I hope my questions and the answers to them might prove useful to those who wish to visit Sosúa.
"Quality" Haitian girls - pretty, dressed well, with manners, more upscale - will speak french as well as kreyol and tend to gravitate to french speaking establishments in Sosua. Ask around for bars where french is spoken, there's one past the discos in the direction of the beach on Clisante.These girls appreciate being treated with respect and courtesy. It's strange after struggling to get along with chicas in spanish to find chicas who don't speak spanish at all. All Haitianas speak Kreyol and they are often fascinated by any effort by a blanc to speak it so that's not a waste of time.
Any Haitian in Sosua is comparatively comfortable in DR society. There are many more haitians who would be afraid to leave the batey (the tourist part of Sosua is called "El Batey", but bateyes are originally cane cutter's quarters near the mills - effectively haitian ghettos). There are bateyes any place sugar cane is grown. Locally there are several off the main road between Sosua and Puerto Plata- especially by Monte Llano. Batey Haitianas are unpolished and generally speak only Kreyol, but on the other hand can be unspoiled, appreciative, and can still have that perfect butt.
Have my first trip to the DR coming up in July. Will be in Sousua for 10 days. I have a questions on prices. As I look over the diferent post here I see lot of different prices listed. I only speak English so want to have a good idea on what I should expect to pay for an all nighter. I pefer LT over ST. The one amount I saw several times was 1500 for LT and 1000 for ST; is that the average for Sousua? Is that in clubs or for free lance workers? Can I expect to pay more in different clubs and less in others?
Marc Anthony & Member 2128 pretty much covered the bases, when it comes to the Haitian girls in the DR. 5 years ago you'd have to make special arrangements to meet one - now they're all over!
But Also, on the main Pedro Clisante strip - Haitian girls tend to hang out at Bar Central. Its the somewhat subdued bar with the Fleur-de-lis's on the sign directly in between the Merengue Bar and Classico Disco.
cheers........
[QUOTE=Usboys]Places to stay in Sousa. I am going to Sousa in July, where are places to stay for mongering and the current cost for chicas.[/QUOTE]I would stay at Resedencial casa linda, great place, out of the way of the known sosua strip. I've stay twice in the last six months, next time I go I will there again.
Freetime,
I also prefer longtime girl friend experiences to short time. I would recommend that you not go to Sosua for your first trip to the DR. With no Spanish speaking ability Blackbeards in my opinion would be a much better option. At Blackbeards you do not have to negotiate with the girls the cost is 2500 pesos for LT and 1300 pesos for ST set for everyone.
In Sosua you will have to pay at least 2500 pesos for LT and many times the girl will not stay even if that was what was agreed to at the bar. The girls cell phone rings, sick mother, sick baby, ext.
[QUOTE=Love Seeker]Freetime,
In Sosua you will have to pay at least 2500 pesos for LT and many times the girl will not stay even if that was what was agreed to at the bar. The girls cell phone rings, sick mother, sick baby, ext.[/QUOTE]-I think you will find your estimates of 1000 pesos ST and 1500 LT are on the mark.
- In Sosua all girls in the clubs are freelancers except for Passions Massage.
-You do not need to speak spanish but learning some basic words will get you a long way, especially the numbers when it comes to negotiating.
- Do not negotiate in $'s as this gives you away as a newby and they will immediatly quote $100 which is double the going rate.
G
My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?[/QUOTE]
I agree with you, during my last time in sosua in march 2007 i usually paid 1500 pesos for lt and most of the girls seemed to appreciate that. Well i am fluent in spanish, young and in good shape so maybe this helped for a bit.
Cunning Linguist (great name, BTW),
Before you worry yourself silly about speaking the language of the Haitiana, you may be interested in learning how to spell it. As far as I know, it's Creole. Not Kreyole. If you want to learn it and have the means, knock yourself out! However, they understand French and will readily speak it with you. Or, even Spanish. The only one that won't work is ENGLISH!
Re: Dress Code
You will see that bringing your "slacks" and "dress shirts" will be a bit of a waste. Sosua is quite casual. Most of the monger tourists walk around in baggy shorts, baseball caps and flip flops, even at night. Long pants instead of shorts will make you look less a "typical" tourist, but jeans or casual long pants would do better than dress pants for sure, IMHO. On the down side, I think if you "dress up" it only raises the asking price in the same direction.
As an equal admirer of "Fuck Puppet's" lithe body, dark skin and especially toned tight stomach, I think she originated on the beaches of Boca Chica. Am I right?
Also, I don't know how you'd search it, but I believe that way back when, there was a great report about how she was found, named and used for routine pleasure....and how she had a sister, "Fuck Puppet's Sister"....or was it "Crack Girl's Sister"....classic reports, nevertheless. Was it Helpman? Marc Anthony? Can't recall. Whomever: Thanks for the memorable contributions. They live on in the minds of those....who remember these things! LOL
I've always wanted to visit those Haitian communities mentioned in one of the previous posts. The places where former sugar cane workers lived. There was a well-known one off the main Puerto Plata Road, down a side dirt road, at the corner where there was also the well-known monger hotel called Field of Dreams. Given the vague info, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Been there? Was it worth visiting for a monger opportunity with the "village" Haitianas? I never got there. I always got caught up in the public beach activity, flirting at the water side tables, buying the cutest ones beers and making dates.
Sooner, rather than later I hope,
#2128
Hello Member #2128 (thanks for the compliment on my nickname).
As a matter of fact, I have already started learning a bit of the Haitian language as a result of seeing photographs of "Fuck Puppet" (who may not even be Haitian) and Marc Anthony's Haitian beauty. As for the name of the language, well, in English it might be calle "Haitian Creole" but the Haitians say, and write, "Kreyòl". Kreyòl spelling is mind-bendingly phonetic and, for those who know French, it takes some getting used to. For example, "beswan" instead of "besoin". "Dousman" instead of "doucement", "konprann" instead of "comprends".
I don't wish to bore ISG members with grammatical essays and lessons on phonology but perhaps a few choice phrases might bring a smile or two on a cute Haitian babe's face. Why not?
I have tried to give a very approximate pronunciation. Please bear in mind that the capital "N" means that that the vowel is a nasal sound. That means that when you say koo-mawN , hold your nose when you say mawN (if you speak French or Portuguese, it is like "bon" or "bom"). My knowledge is still limited so I don't know how to say racier things. Sorry.
Sa ka fèt?
Sah kah fett?
how's it going?
Kouman ou rele?
Koo-mawN oo ray-lay?
what is your name?
Bonjou
BoN Zhoo (zh = s in treasure)
good day / good morning
Mwen se ameriken
moo-een say amerikayN
"I am a American"
Ki jan ou ye?
Kee zhaN oo yay?
How are you?
Mèsi
Messy (accent on sy)
Thanks
Souple
soo-play
please
Eske ou pale angle?
ess-kay oo pah-lay aN-glay?
Do you speak English?
Eske ou pale pannyòl?
ess-kay oo pah-lay pawn-yole?
Do you speak Spanish?
Kilaj ou?
Keel-ahsh oo?
How old are you?
Ou konpran?
oo koN-prawN?
Do you understand?
Konben?
KoN-BeN?
How much?
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[QUOTE=Member #2128]...As an equal admirer of "Fuck Puppet's" lithe body, dark skin and especially toned tight stomach, I think she originated on the beaches of Boca Chica. Am I right?
Also, I don't know how you'd search it, but I believe that way back when, there was a great report about how she was found, named and used for routine pleasure....and how she had a sister, "Fuck Puppet's Sister"....or was it "Crack Girl's Sister"....classic reports, nevertheless. Was it Helpman? Marc Anthony? Can't recall. Whomever: Thanks for the memorable contributions. They live on in the minds of those....who remember these things! LOL[/QUOTE]Her body was so pliable. I could do anything with that meat hole. Wrap her body in cellophane, fuck her face, chain her to the bed... she was my fuck puppet. With my cock inside her sleeve she would come alive.
-Helpmann :)
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What places give the best exchange rate?
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]My impression was that 2500 was high for Sosua. With some discussion, isn't 1500 possible?[/QUOTE]
If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.
I will investigate this phenomenon and report back. It was mentioned below that being young and in good shape helps. Do you all think this is true? Again, I will investigate.
[QUOTE=Escort King]If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.[/QUOTE]This true, I was just there. They 1500 for a short stay and 2000-3000 Lt, the game is getting a little ugly.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Her body was so pliable. I could do anything with that meat hole. Wrap her body in cellophane, fuck her face, chain her to the bed... she was my fuck puppet. With my cock inside her sleeve she would come alive.
-Helpmann :)
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Helpmann----Thanks for the trip down memory lane. You be da BOMB! I remember those reports from 2000 f***ing 5 like yesterday. Those were the glory days of BC for shure. Everyday a party. I get a vibe that F.P was not much in the personality department. A bit dull before and after the nut? Well, as I've heard said, "Nobody's perfect".
Also, I picked up on something you said in your report:
<<<No free sex, no free money. I can only give her opportunities to earn cash and nothing else. Anything else (free money or free sex) will lead to problems and complicate things>>>
Helpmann, you are a wise mann. This is one of the many mongering truths, especially in 3rd World places like the DR, that will keep the train on the track.
Newbies, read and consider. Don't forget the rules of the game.
Thanks again for your terrific reports and for paying attention,
#2128
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist] As for the name of the language, well, in English it might be calle "Haitian Creole" but the Haitians say, and write, "Kreyòl". Kreyòl spelling is mind-bendingly phonetic and, for those who know French, it takes some getting used to. For example, "beswan" instead of "besoin". "Dousman" instead of "doucement", "konprann" instead of "comprends"
Sa ka fèt?
Sah kah fett?
how's it going?
Kouman ou rele?
Koo-mawN oo ray-lay?
what is your name?
Bonjou
BoN Zhoo (zh = s in treasure)
good day / good morning
Mwen se ameriken
moo-een say amerikayN
"I am a American"
Ki jan ou ye?
Kee zhaN oo yay?
How are you?
Mèsi
Messy (accent on sy)
Thanks
Souple
soo-play
please
Eske ou pale angle?
ess-kay oo pah-lay aN-glay?
Do you speak English?
Eske ou pale pannyòl?
ess-kay oo pah-lay pawn-yole?
Do you speak Spanish?
Kilaj ou?
Keel-ahsh oo?
How old are you?
Ou konpran?
oo koN-prawN?
Do you understand?
Konben?
KoN-BeN?
How much?
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Of course. Now I know why you call yourself Cunning LINGUIST! You enjoy the big puzzle that is language. And the benefits that come with being to charm in the mother tongue of a young bubble-butted Fuck Puppet. Yes, you are indeed Cunning!
Thanks for the lesson!
#2128
Hello,, #2128, I like to use my tongue for more than just talking. Cunnilingus and Cunning linguistics are my passions.
Strange though it might seem, I get a bigger kick out of eating a hot chick out than her giving me a BJ. I know, that might sound weird to some but different strokes for different folks.
I will keep members posted and informed about how my venture into Kreyòl turns out, complete with photographic evidence. To be sure, I also plan on doing Dominicanas.
I plan on staying at the New Garden hotel though I wonder if the adventure might be more interesting at Europa Hotel. Any thoughts out there about that? Casa Residencial even better? All I want is a girl-friendly hotel.
Though I don't want to sound arrogant, I really prefer to dress a little upscale since I honestly don't feel right in shorts, flipflops, a T-shirt and a baseball hat. If that means I have to pay more, so be it but, then again, maybe my Spanish/French/ Kreyòl might just make up for it. Anyway, who knows? Who cares? It is all a game. I just want to charm a hot chick into actually enjoying what she is doing, if that is indeed possible. As I said, it is all a part of the game.
Bkgee,
How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.
Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?
The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.
[QUOTE=Member #2128]Helpmann----Thanks for the trip down memory lane. You be da BOMB! I remember those reports from 2000 f***ing 5 like yesterday...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment. No, Fuck Puppet has a very good attitude. If she didn't, I would have never fucked her a second time. Even though I haven't banged her in awhile, she always happy to see me and tells me how much she misses the handcuffs.
A lot of Boca Chica girls know me and I get along with most of them. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time or energy to bang them all, even at the price of RD$500 - RD$700. I usually keep my eyes out for girls under the age of 21 who are "8's" and above. I'll make an exception if I know the girl is a super-freak or if she's a "7" with a good attitude, who will cost me under RD$800.
I am happy to know that my previous posts were helpful, because ISG has been an incredibly useful for tool, not only my trips to the DR, but to Brazil, Cuba, Colombia, and Mid-town ;).
The DR is a wonderful place and I hope you continue to go. If you're in the neighborhood (Boca Chica) over Labor Day Weekend, let me know. I would love to tag team Fuck Puppet.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Third World]Bkgee,
How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.
Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?[/QUOTE]Dude, call Bigi at Hispaniola Real Estate (M-F; 9am - 4pm.) I have rented villas at Casa Linda through them before. Hell, I was just there 2-months ago.
-Helpmann :)
[url]www.hispaniolarealestate.com[/url]
(809) 571-2727
Freetime, I believe ATM's provide the best exchange rate. There are a lot of them in Sosua. Also, theres a bank at the airport (not the exchange money place near the baggage claim area) I think its called Banco Popular, you have to walk outside the airport, near the stores. It's close to the bathrooms. They have a descent exchange rate there. They will also exchange pesos into dollars for you when you return.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]
I plan on staying at the New Garden hotel though I wonder if the adventure might be more interesting at Europa Hotel. Any thoughts out there about that? Casa Residencial even better? All I want is a girl-friendly hotel.
Though I don't want to sound arrogant, I really prefer to dress a little upscale since I honestly don't feel right in shorts, flipflops, a T-shirt and a baseball hat. If that means I have to pay more, so be it but, then again, maybe my Spanish/French/ Kreyòl might just make up for it. Anyway, who knows? Who cares? It is all a game. I just want to charm a hot chick into actually enjoying what she is doing, if that is indeed possible. As I said, it is all a part of the game.[/QUOTE]
C.L, you sound like a real gentleman! Now I'm REALLY looking forward to your report(s) when you return....or even better, take a short break each day and file them from one of the many internet cafes you will find in Sosua. It becomes a different experience when you report directly from the front!
One of the things that goes on, if you're a "nice guy" and easy-going about paying top dollar (or more!!), is that the chica/Haitiana in question will try to lock you up. They will refuse to leave you. They will show up unexpectedly. They will search you out wherever you go, like a peso-seeking missle. Of course, if this chica is the absolute girl of your dreams (another problem for you!), you may not mind any of this. However, if she was simply an hour of pleasurable diversion, you will find it quite annoying when she continually shows up when you're eating at a restaurant, or shouts your name from a distance...as she comes running up to you to continue the harassment. Unfortunately, Sosua can become a very small town! This kind of unwanted attention can carry on for your entire stay. Especially....if you start to throw the money around. It is, as you say, "a game", so it helps to be aware of the rules. IMHO, it can help to be "charming", but not too charming when comes to how much you pay.
Another member makes a good point in the previous post about the Haitianas being harrassed by policia, being afraid to walk alone at night, always looking over their shoulder. I experienced this as well. It can lead to behavior on their part that is confusing, but it's because they're afraid. Also, these same girls DO NOT HAVE CEDULAS, therefore, although the hotels you mention are "girl friendly", chicas cannot enter the premises without showing a CEDULA (I.D. CARD) at the front desk. Can be a problem. You may have to rent a ratty ST room for 300 RD$. It's a little less than $10 USD, but annoying to pay nevertheless. There's a convenient one that's not too bad and that everyone knows---Calypso?
When are you going...?
#2128
[QUOTE=Helpmann
The DR is a wonderful place and I hope you continue to go. If you're in the neighborhood (Boca Chica) over Labor Day Weekend, let me know. I would love to tag team Fuck Puppet.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Damn! Labor Day! Tag team! Fucking that skinny Fuck Puppet Forever?
Helpmann, you are cruel. Now I have to jerk off till September! LOL
Nevertheless, thanks for the generous invitation. I will keep you posted.
#2128
[QUOTE=Chily]The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.[/QUOTE]
Dominicanos [b]do[/b] take advantage of Haitians and their pitiful economic condition. Chily, you are correct! They often work Haitian men for long miserable hours in the 96 degree Dominican heat for $6 USD or less a day.
However, taking advantage of an economically opressed people who are not comfortable with the local language and working them long hours at less than minimum wage - does that sound familiar?? ;)
It's wrong, and its inhumane but it goes on in the DR with illegal immigrants from Haiti and it goes on in the United States in the NYC suburbs with illegal immigrants, who aren't comfortable with the local language either.
However, instead of from Haiti - these people come from Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and other Central American countries.
[i]"It was always thus!"[/i] - as my grandfather might say.
cheers............
Helpmann,
Thanks once again! You and Ford always come through rapido!
[QUOTE=Chily]The Polica constantly harrass them. Polica often, very often, take them to the station, hold them illegally, molest them, until a friend bribes the Policia 3000 pesos. Haitians are afraid at all times! They can't walk from Secrets to the discos. They usually ride this short distance on moto-conchos. Certainly, they can never walk alone! Frankly, Dominicans and their representatives represent the most prejudicial behavior that I have personally witnessed in any country.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree. I only meant to point out the distinction between the Haitians who are confident enough (informed, acculturated) to be out in Dominican Society and those who are so thoroughly cowed or intimidated that they are still unwilling to leave the ghetto. The Haitians you see in Sosua are the ones who despite the risks are experienced and brave enough to deal with the threats you're pointing out. A chica who is in Sosua risks detention and having to get her amiga to bribe the polica. The Bateye chica who has no amiga with 3000 pesos faces being put on the back of a truck and driven to the border at Dajabon. On the 6 hour trip she will get to entertain the soldiers (who will often not bother with details like condoms). Once there she will be put across the border with nothing, knowing nobody, with no sympathy. Haitians you see around in Sosua do not have it easy. I was just commenting that there is an invisible even larger population of Haitians who have it worse.
Just came from a trip from 5/26--6/3. It rain for 5 days and screwing was all you have to do, ha ha ha. But this trip I've learn more about the cuture and DR/Hati girls. 1st thing1st. EYE CONTACT Look for 3 sec and act like you looking at somewhere us, But be cool about it, because that how the girls pursue you. I egnore them and act like I'm looking at someone else. By me doing that I had a good time at picking who I want. But that take a little practice because when you smile you can get yourself in lockdown by the girls. The DR Pip (Guy) are laughingstock, they beg more, I mean more than the women. Being a men in DR is the worse when it come to you not having a job or skills, the WORSE! THE LAST THING is Girl from other citys who come to Sosua to make $$$ said that the Sosua girls have more STD's because of there living near all the action. She warn me and my freind that don't go barebone unless you are crazy. Just alway wear a hat. The girls this year was more younger and nicer and the Hati girls was even better, lot more in shape BOY I HAD A WORKOUT.
I'd never caught the reports you referenced and they are excellent. My one little Boca Chica experience in February was like being on the outside looking in. It's definitely no longer an "easy" mongering town but I could see the potential all around with more work and experience. Your reports illustrate what's possible.
Boca Chica is cheaper and easier for me to fly into than the north coast and you convince me that despite first appearances it's worth the effort.
Don't make poor FP wait too long for her esposas.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]I'd never caught the reports you referenced and they are excellent...[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have written approx. 25 full trip/day reports on the DR. Although, ISG has about half of those reports, most of my adventures during 2004 - 2006 are archived on two other "travel guide" sites.
-Helpmann :)
Man can bang
You bring up a good topic. Were are all the DR girls working? Or do they? IMHO the girls we are seeing at Sosua are all Haitians! Yes? Okay, they are of Haitian decent. DR citizens yes, But Haitian black decendants for sure. The DR As you know was occupied by Hatti for many years. One think is is for sure the light skin DR women are beautiful but rarely did I see any on the Sosua strip.
This site is the best for reading the skinny on the streets of all countries from those who know it the best. From sex to crime, food and fun.
So I'll post a stupid newbie mistake here. I was walking home from the disco to The New Garden by myself about midnight one night. This chica comes up to me around Rockies, She took out here tits and rub on me giving me the baby, baby song. The girl took my wallet out of my pocket. Emptied it of small Pesos and was putting the wallet back in my pocket before I caught on.
Now, I'm not a Newbie. I work and hunt at all the West African countries. Hopefully, It will not happen to someone who reads this report. The gir was slick, I have to give her that.
All the Best!
Cap
Hello Member veintiuno veintiocho,
I plan to be in the DR the first week of August, albeit for only about 4 days. Duty forces me to be in Sosua only a few days.
You mentioned in post #974 that a local girl or a Haitian might just latch on to me if I prove not only to be a reliable ATM, but a charming one as well. I have had that problem, of sorts, in Thailand but I was unaware of such a thing in the DR. I suppose that women are the same, no matter where they are from, whatever their cultural background.
My style is to pay only the going rate but I do get a kick out of buying girls a shirt, or jeans and giving them little presents such as perfume, not to mention inviting them to dinner or lunch. I prefer to spend the "extra money" this way rather than just throw extra money in the short time or long time (or TLN as they seem to say in Sosúa) fee. It is my understanding that if they are hustling a gringo, it is better if the gringo is kind, clean, good-looking, and even fun. I still think it is all more than just money for sex transaction if you play your cards right. I really like GFE, even if, in the very end, it is only a fleeting moment.
I really feel sorry for the poor Haitian girls and their plight there. In any case, many people seem to be reporting that there are many of them and many are hot. My mouth is drooling. I only hope that not all of them take to the razor.
I wonder whether a few dollars might persuade the people at a hotel to look the other way when it comes to a Haitian girl who is obviously over 18. Otherwise, the Calypso short-time hotel would seem to fit the bill.
How is security in Sosúa at night? My theory is that, unless he is a total drunken idiot sporting around an expensive camera along a dark street at night, the tourist is relatively safe since, after all, it is in Sosúa's own economic interest that tourists are not harmed.
On another note, I wonder if Helpmann could tell us whether Fuck Puppet is Haitian or a Dominican girl and whether she actually has a name. I envy whoever can get her over the Labor Day holiday.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]On another note, I wonder if Helpmann could tell us whether Fuck Puppet is Haitian or a Dominican girl and whether she actually has a name. I envy whoever can get her over the Labor Day holiday.[/QUOTE]She's Haitian and she still has a tight little body. Nevertheless, I don't publish her name or the names of other Boca Chica girls on the internet.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]
...My question about learning some Kreyol went unanswered...
[/QUOTE]
If you're serious about learning, "Ann Pale Kreyol" by Albert Valdman is one of the best language course out there (available from Amazon). I'm trying to attach a quick survival Haitian glossary. We'll see if it uploads.
It has some useful commands like follow my orders, lay down, open your mouth, I'm going to give you an injection, etc, which you may find useful.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]
...New Garden Hotel or Hotel Europa, Residencial...
[/QUOTE]
Did you make a decision on your hotel? Were prices for all of these about the same? I am planning on making a trip of my own to Sosua for one week in July or August.
Thanks,
Jimbo
[QUOTE=Escort King]If you have a little game..... but 2500 for a really hot girl means you are going to need something in your favor... I have heard 3 and 4k being floated out there and just a simple no 1500 is not getting them to agree and go with you.[/QUOTE]I was just there may28-june4, and yes they want 3000 pesos of the top, from following everyone on this forum, you have to talk them down. 1500 is for 1hr-1. 5hr tops, we was getting for 2000 for the night, from about 6-7pm until 12pm-1pm the next afternoon. The best chicas I've seen were at La Passion on the strip in sosua. Nothing but 7's and up!
[QUOTE=Third World]Bkgee,
How did you get in touch with the people at Residential Casa Linda? My buddy called and emailed them, and they took a long time returning his call. Once he spoke to someone, they were suppose to email him some information and he hasn't heard back from the guy. He will be down there June 22-29 but had to make reservations elsewhere because communication was so complicated with Residencial Casa Linda but he really wanted to stay there.
Also I plan on staying there in the fall and wanted to avoid this issue. What's the best way to correspond with them and which villas did you stay while you where there?[/QUOTE]I have a agent who books for us, everyone that he sends down there, they use casa linda, sent me your e-mail and we can see what we can do for you, [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Bkgee,
I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.
By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.
[QUOTE=Third World]Bkgee,
I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.
By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.[/QUOTE]Yes someone from the villa has to be with the girl, these are armed security guards with shot guns. Once they have the I.D. at they gate let the party begin, as we did but naked in the swimming pool, LOL!, And as far as distance from the action 5 mins by car, if you can rent something small would be even better, and to let you know there's a gas station/grocery store right next to the villa.As far as classico (Club59) it was kool, but if you mess with a chick from there she will want to be with you everyday, so just to let you know they hound you, the hold srtip knew us, we were like the five horsemen, when we came they all came out, word spreads fast in sousa, the girls talk to damn much! p.s. the villa as a safe in one of the closets so your good, have fun man.
[QUOTE=Man Can Bang]Just came from a trip from 5/26--6/3. It rain for 5 days and screwing was all you have to do, ha ha ha. But this trip I've learn more about the cuture and DR/Hati girls. 1st thing1st. EYE CONTACT Look for 3 sec and act like you looking at somewhere us, But be cool about it, because that how the girls pursue you. I egnore them and act like I'm looking at someone else. By me doing that I had a good time at picking who I want. But that take a little practice because when you smile you can get yourself in lockdown by the girls. The DR Pip (Guy) are laughingstock, they beg more, I mean more than the women. Being a men in DR is the worse when it come to you not having a job or skills, the WORSE! THE LAST THING is Girl from other citys who come to Sosua to make $$$ said that the Sosua girls have more STD's because of there living near all the action. She warn me and my freind that don't go barebone unless you are crazy. Just alway wear a hat. The girls this year was more younger and nicer and the Hati girls was even better, lot more in shape BOY I HAD A WORKOUT.[/QUOTE]The women bring home the bacon down there, if the man is not working, also the men beat there women for there money!
[QUOTE=Third World]Bkgee,
I got in touch with them! Helpmann hit me off with some great info! So I'm good, thank you though.
By the way which villa did you stay in? How far was it from the action in Sousa mainly Classico? Do the guards let women come and go as they please or someone staying in the villa have to be with them? I'm trying to cut down on the theives LOL! I've heard there are alot of slick women down there. I never experienced it personally but one of my buddies had his money and camcorder stolen after he fell alseep with a chica in his room in Sousa.[/QUOTE]The villa was called Natilie.
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]If you're serious about learning, "Ann Pale Kreyol" by Albert Valdman is one of the best language course out there (available from Amazon). I'm trying to attach a quick survival Haitian glossary. We'll see if it uploads.
It has some useful commands like follow my orders, lay down, open your mouth, I'm going to give you an injection, etc, which you may find useful.
Did you make a decision on your hotel? Were prices for all of these about the same? I am planning on making a trip of my own to Sosua for one week in July or August.
Thanks,
Jimbo[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the tip and Mèsi for the glossary. Although it is a $245 course, I will definitely buy it. I think I will stay at the New Garden in deference to what some have said on the board. My only worry is finding a super hot legal Haitian (i.e. over 18) who does not have her ID (cédula) and therefore I will have to make use of a short-time hotel such as the Calypso. As far as I have been able to ascertain, the New Garden prices are slightly higher than Europa Plaza.
I will be staying there over a good part of the first week in August.
Oh, Jimbo, I found your discussion on other boards regarding sowing your DNA around the world to be fascinating. Although having kids with third world women (with mutual consent), and maintaining them is definitely not for everyone, it is an interesting for option for those who like "reproductive" mongering. LOL.
I still would appreciate it if other members would discuss the security situation in Sosúa and how to avoid being mugged or robbed or worse
[QUOTE=Bkgee]I was just there may28-june4, and yes they want 3000 pesos of the top, from following everyone on this forum, you have to talk them down. 1500 is for 1hr-1. 5hr tops, we was getting for 2000 for the night, from about 6-7pm until 12pm-1pm the next afternoon. The best chicas I've seen were at La Passion on the strip in sosua. Nothing but 7's and up![/QUOTE]
Just for the sake of the members. You paid 2000 +. You said WE so that meant that you likely had a group of guys with you. Are you all from the Notheastern US? do you all speak Spanish? do you have any pics of these "hot girls". I only ask because
1.If you paid that much she better be taken some kind of pics. I dont care if their not nudes.
2.Guys from that region tend to have a reputation for overpaying for everything. Many of the girls have relatives that live in Washington Heights or NJ which has ,get this, the larget Dominican population outside of the DR and are constantly being told how little 2500-3000 is for Americans.As soon as you say your from NY/NJ you are a target.
3.I dont want to assume from your # of post but how many times have you and your squad been to DR? A lot of guys go down for the 1st or 2nd time and just blow dough.
I AM NOT SAYING BE FRUGAL. WE ALL COME DOWN TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
But please bare mind that With the proper technique/ talk you could fuck 2 gorgeous girls in DR for 3000. Hell 3 okay lookers for 3000. Would any experienced travelers here disagree?
Get the pics up. Then maybe we can have a better understanding.
It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?
What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.
Jimbo
[QUOTE=Curry]Just for the sake of the members. You paid 2000 +. You said WE so that meant that you likely had a group of guys with you. Are you all from the Notheastern US? do you all speak Spanish? do you have any pics of these "hot girls". I only ask because
1.If you paid that much she better be taken some kind of pics. I dont care if their not nudes.
2.Guys from that region tend to have a reputation for overpaying for everything. Many of the girls have relatives that live in Washington Heights or NJ which has ,get this, the larget Dominican population outside of the DR and are constantly being told how little 2500-3000 is for Americans.As soon as you say your from NY/NJ you are a target.
3.I dont want to assume from your # of post but how many times have you and your squad been to DR? A lot of guys go down for the 1st or 2nd time and just blow dough.
I AM NOT SAYING BE FRUGAL. WE ALL COME DOWN TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
But please bare mind that With the proper technique/ talk you could fuck 2 gorgeous girls in DR for 3000. Hell 3 okay lookers for 3000. Would any experienced travelers here disagree?
Get the pics up. Then maybe we can have a better understanding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?
What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.
Jimbo[/QUOTE][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556]The 80%[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548325&postcount=559]The Hunt[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549079&postcount=588]Helpful Hints to Hunt[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553514&postcount=612]First Impression[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553695&postcount=616]BATNA[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546122&postcount=940]Happy Hunting![/url]
-Helpmann :)
[b]Curry[/b] - You are being too kind my friend. Any girl you sleep with for 2000RDP in Sosua -had better pose for photos in the nude! I don't like making generalizations, but in large measure you are also correct about guys from the northeast USA. They have a bit of a "rep" for "hitting the DR" with "their crew" and overpaying. They have a "rep" for being somewhat unsophisticated mongers.
I have dozens of aquaintenances from NYC that are like that. I think it gives me some [i]license[/i] to make that generalization. Also, I was born and raised in NYC, educated here - but please don't blame me! ;)
[b]Crazy Jim Wood[/b] - I think the issue is that in a "hobby" that is so dependent on your skills of negotiating - speaking Spanish puts you at a tremendous advantage. Do you absolutely have to speak Spanish in Latin America to get laid? No, of course not.
I know some career US Navy guys who get shore leave in Cartagena for 3 days and they tape $50 bills to their foreheads and run around town like idiots. They get laid too but I'd kind of gotten the impression that members of this board were looking for something more though!
Another shot of Maria. Met her in Crystals in Puerto Plata. Paid 2000RDP plus "vig" to the house.
Then took her again the very next night back in Sosua for all night till 12 noon the next day. Paid 2000RDP. Got photos - nude, dressed - and everything else I wanted!
Very gfe, very agreeable to [b][i]everything[/i][/b] - worth 2000rdp! :)
(Of course I negotiated everything in fluent Spanish first)
cheers mates.............
Helpmann,
I think it costs twice as much for me to go to Brazil as to DR, I don't think that I will save enough on chicas to make it worth it. Plus, I have been following the DR thread for a while and want to give it a shot.
The issue isn't only money, either: I don't want to look stupid paying to much, and I want to make sure it is GFE as much as possible.
I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women. It seems many others on the forum think Boca Chica is played out, but I guess you think Boca Chica is a better bet than Sosua?
I will only be there for a week but it would be nice to get to know a few places. Perhaps I should stay a few days at each.
Thanks (Thanks to Ford as well),
Jimbo
[QUOTE=Helpmann][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556]The 80%[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548325&postcount=559]The Hunt[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549079&postcount=588]Helpful Hints to Hunt[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553514&postcount=612]First Impression[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553695&postcount=616]BATNA[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546122&postcount=940]Happy Hunting![/url]
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]It seems like the prices are pretty firm for non-Spanish speakers. Is this a deal where girls will NOT go lower for someone who doesn't know the lingo, or is it a case of the non-Spanish speaking monger not holding out long enough to get a lower price? Or perhaps it is timing or other market conditions (your professional Spanish-speaking monger is hitting up girls for lower prices later in the night when the girl has already made some money or is afraid of going home alone where as the less-experienced, non-Spanish speaking monger is asking early in the night, etc)?
What's a guy who doesn't know Spanish supposed to do? I wouldn't want to cause inflation by paying too much.
Jimbo[/QUOTE]Here it is folks! This scenario says it all.
[b]BTW: For the mentally challenged, please substitute "Bombay" w/ "Santo Domingo", "pot" w/ "pussy," and "he" w/ "she."[/b]
-Helpmann ;)
[i][b][size=1]Excerpt taken from the book "Getting to YES" by: Fisher and URY[/size][/b]
"Consider a wealthy tourist who wants to buy a small brass pot for a modest price from a vendor at the Bombay railroad station. The vendor may be poor, but he is likely to know the market. If he does not sell the pot to this tourist, he can sell it to another. From his experience he can estimate when and for how much he could sell it to someone else. The tourist may be wealthy and "powerful," but in this negotiation he will be weak indeed unless he knows approximately how much it would cost and how difficult it would be to find a comparable pot elsewhere. He is almost certain either to miss his chance to buy such a pot or to pay too high a price. The tourist's wealth in no way strengthens his negotiating power. If apparent, it weakens his ability to buy the pot at a low price. In order to convert that wealth into negotitiating power, the tourist would have to apply it to learn about the price at which he could buy an equally or more attractive brass pot somewhere else."[/i]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATNA[/url]
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women. It seems many others on the forum think Boca Chica is played out, but I guess you think Boca Chica is a better bet than Sosua?[/QUOTE][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=563605&postcount=977]Boca Chica Ain't For Newbies![/url]
-Helpmann :)
Hail Oh Great Helpmann!
In reading your experience as the Lion King lying in wait, you mention that a good place is essential while waiting for the gazelles.
You mentioned a place in Boca Chica but exactly where in Sosúa would you recommend a strategic place to stake out, e.g. lie in wait for a scrumptious gazelle. By tigress, I suppose that you mean a ***** with an attitude or sticky fingers.
From what you say, gazelles seem to be rather challenging to find.
1. They must be under 21 or 20
2. They can't be on the prowl after dark. Gazelles head home.
3. They can't be Haitian
4. They aren't the ones who approach you
5. They don't hang around Classicos
I hope I have got the essentials. Maybe a few pictures that illustrate what constitutes a tigress and what consitutes a gazelle might help the likes of such as we. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
In any case, thank you for sharing your seasoned experience
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Hail Oh Great Helpmann!
In reading your experience as the Lion King lying in wait, you mention that a good place is essential while waiting for the gazelles.
You mentioned a place in Boca Chica but exactly where in Sosúa would you recommend a strategic place to stake out, e.g. lie in wait for a scrumptious gazelle. By tigress, I suppose that you mean a ***** with an attitude or sticky fingers.
From what you say, gazelles seem to be rather challenging to find.
1. They must be under 21 or 20
2. They can't be on the prowl after dark. Gazelles head home.
3. They can't be Haitian
4. They aren't the ones who approach you
5. They don't hang around Classicos[/QUOTE][b]1. Location, location, location. [/b]It's the most important. It's the reason why you're in the DR and not the Bahamas. It's the reason why you're in Sosua and not Punta Cana. Yes, there are gazelles at Classicos (less at night on Duarte's Boca Chica); however, there mixed in with so many more tigres, it's hard to spot them. Also, good girls go home at night. Only once in a blue moon will you catch them working the discos at night.
[b]2. On average, I find Haitian girls more hardened than Dominican girls. [/b]Nevertheless, I've met Haitian gazelles. Hell, Fuck Puppet is Haitian. There are no hard and fast rules, just guidelines. When the girl has too many "checks" to her name, walk away.
[b]3. Age is also not a hard and fast rule. [/b]Age is generally linked to experience. Knowledge of her market worth (gained through experience.) Also, girls become hard through their negative experiences with Dominicans and foreigners.
You have to evaluate the girl on several measures. You cannot discount her if she fails one or two guidelines.
In reference to a tigress, it's a woman who isn't going to fuck you right. It's a woman who is going to try to steal from you or renegotiate. It's a woman you don't want to fuck again.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]...I hope I have got the essentials. Maybe a few pictures that illustrate what constitutes a tigress and what consitutes a gazelle might help the likes of such as we. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...[/QUOTE][center][b][size=5][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72469]Tigress[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=66272]Gazelle[/url][/b][/size][/center]
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Helpmann,
The issue isn't only money, either: I don't want to look stupid paying to much, and I want to make sure it is GFE as much as possible.
I am more interested in gazelles as you put it than tigresses--and I am more interested in fairer skinned women.
Thanks (Thanks to Ford as well),
Jimbo[/QUOTE]
Just say lighter complexion or European. the DR is not "fair' for 1st timers nor does it have an overabundance of available/inexpensiVe to cheap "fair" skinned talent.Most Dominicans have more African ancestry in common than Spanish ancestry as evidenced by the presence of dominat African features.Most of the girls will be darker skinned (I love it!) but of course there are exceptions.Do you like "fair" skinned black woman? They have those in every flavor from Licorice to Chocolate to Cinnamon to Mocha to Vanilla.
My point is this. If you are looking for a more European type bare in mind that
1.There are many in Santiago (where if you dont speak Spanish or have a visa to give away you wont be screwin anyones daughter)
2.They are present in the capital but tend to be part of a higher economic status.NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME.Longterm effects of colonization ETC.In short. They dont want or need your money.
3.They generally cost more so yes. You will likely look like a fool paying too much.
Considering your preference, Why not try Colombia or Costa Rica?
There is a beach restaurant called Siempre Sol. It belongs to a multilingual Dutchman named Hermann. You can go there, and have a snack while picking Hermann's brains. He seems to know every chica on the beach, has many of their phone numbers, and will happily share his knowledge. One word of caution however. Hermann exploits his waitress badly. They earn 3,000 pesos monthly (supposedly plus tips). Please put your tip directly into her hand. Otherwise she will never see it. What a piece of work!