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Pattaya Reports
[QUOTE=Owl_]I would tend to agree that 2000 to 3000 is way on the high end for Pattaya and that is a price more so if you were in Bangkok rather in Pattaya. I could take two girls LT from a beer bar pay them and the bar fine for less then 3000 bahts. That's just my experience on my trips over the past three years visiting Thailand.[/QUOTE]Dude! What do think I mean? Girl+barfine+drinks+drinks at other bars before you finally find the girl you want=2000-3000 baht.
Sorry If I'm not being as clear.
Peace.
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First time in Patts
I took my first trip to Pattaya earlier this year. I’ve been to Bangkok a couple of times but really wanted to know what pattaya was like, especially after reading the posts on this and other forum exhaustively!
Too much time has past since my holiday to do a day by day account, so these are the mixed ramblings of a Pattaya newbie. Old hands will cringe at my mistakes but hopefully they will help others avoid them!
I stayed at LK Metropole, recommended on here. I was in a standard room. I wanted a suite but they’d all gone. But it was a pretty good place to stay and very gf. Only negative was that it's a bit far from walking street, especially if you don't like walking much in the heat, but the moto taxis from outside the hotel were a great way to get around.
Being so close, Rockhouse became my regular hangout. I was made to feel welcome there and the atmosphere was very relaxed. I bf’d a girl from there, the cashier – not there now, on my second night in town. She is bright and good company although not brilliant in the sack. Took her a couple of times and had lunch with her one day too. Of course, this meant that all the other girls pretty much took it that I was Joy’s so everytime I went back, they were friendly but didn’t try and turn on the charm to get bf’d….so in hindsight was probably a mistake to take a girl so early from the bar I was going to hang out at - when I didn’t want to take her again!
The Rockhouse doesn’t open til 4 (or didn’t then) and it was very quiet for the first hour or so, but the bar next door which has the girls living above the premises was open all day. There was a girl there who spoke fluent English and was a good laugh, and I enjoyed going there around 3 to have a drink, chat, play pool. That was pretty good and I took this girl from there…she spoke hardly any English but was cute and seemed to have a nice personality…and was good in bed!
Was weird the looks the girls gave each other from there and the Rockhouse though, very aggressive! Maybe it wasn’t so wise to switch between the two next door bars!
I hooked up with a couple of American guys at Secrets bar. We went to dinner then two of us went off to a gogo. We had a great time and both took dancers. She wanted 2000 long time but said she would have to leave at 6am! Didn’t find this out til we were in the room so after I’d had my fun, I suggested she leave, it was 4.30 anyway and I didn’t want to get woken again at 6! Big mistake not to agree the price and time upfront, but too much lust and too many beers took over!
One thing I didn’t do was hook up with a girl for a couple days or so. Next time I will do this. Yes, there will be a next time!
For my last night I bf’d a coyote from Secrets (no pic of her, sorry). I had a great night, went to a disco together before crashing out back at the hotel.
I took a couple of soi 6 girls too, service was good as so many others have said…the second was excellent, but wouldn’t allow nude pics. Shame!
Unfortunately I got a cold when I was there, which took all my energy for the last couple of days in pattaya, will eat better and rest more next time!
I took a couple of days in BKK on my way back home, met this girl in the Beergarten. She may not be the best looking but she had a good body and a really sweet attitude. Her name is Bee and I would recommend her!
Well there you go, end of my ramblings….I had a good time in Pattaya but also realise I can do things differently and have a better time next time! Pics are in the photo section.
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[QUOTE=Clap Trap] Drinking not part of the cost? I think not.[/QUOTE]
It's really quite simple. Don't drink, and don't frequent venues that require you to drink. I have never been to ANY place, anywhere in Pattaya where I could not order a soft drink for less than 100 baht, and drink it for as long as it took me to decide which lady I would go with. But the fact is, I rarely do it now, because I have found that freelancers are better than the go go girls and beer bar girls.
Of course, if you're an alcoholic, not drinking could be difficult for you.
And no, going LT with bar girls who live at the bars is what YOU'RE talking about, not what WE'RE talking about. In my experience, freelancers generally provide better service than bar girls. Be it ST, or LT. I generally pay the freelancers 1200-1500 for LT in Pattaya.
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Who is right?
I read this forum since about some years. And this discussion recurs like the summer-time, raining-time and winter-time. And as long as this world circulates, there will be no end of this discussion.
A guy with a low budget can never pick up a high class girl (as I read with great interest it was 15.000 Baht a night) and can never dine in PIC Kitchen or Sugar Hut. And the right choice of a good bottle of wine will ever be a secret for him.
And a guy with high end budget will never ever pick up a freelancer from the Beach Road for about 500 Baht – or try to negotiate the prize down.
What both can do is to eat a delicious noodles soup at Leng Kees on Central Pattaya Road or drink a can of beer.
But as you always say: Each to his own. Everyone lives in his own world and tries to realize his own dreams.
And for all the others, who can not decide, whether they belong to the one or to the other group of guys – look at the photo. If you are able to do that, you can save a lot of money – for a good bottle of wine or a high class girl.
By the way: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 to you all.
Schock die khrap
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]And for all the others, who can not decide, whether they belong to the one or to the other group of guys – look at the photo. If you are able to do that, you can save a lot of money – for a good bottle of wine or a high class girl.
By the way: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 to you all.
Schock die khrap
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
OK, where do I fit? I have a 1200 bottle wine cellar with an emphasis on top tier Burgundies (as well as a fair selection of Bordeaux, California Cabs, Aussie, California and French Rhone varietals). To me, an "inexpensive good value" wine is a $25-30 - in a store - bottle that's as good as most triple digit bottles, and most $10-$15 wine is at best simple and boring, at worst, undrinkable swill - although I know the handful of places where I can find a $15 bottle that's as good as most $30-40 bottles (Say, a Tempranillo from Penedes, or a Malbec from the Maipo valley). BTW, fine wine is the ONLY alcohol I drink, and I almost never drink anything when I'm in LOS.
And as for ladies, I tend to like freelancers for 1000 baht in BKK, and 500-600 baht in Patts - not because they are cheap, but because in addition to being cheap, I find that they tend to have far superior attitudes than the 3000 baht as well as the 10000 baht ladies.
So where does your classification place me?
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Classification
Dear Member # 2041.
For you a special Happy New Year 2008.
Far away and long ago, my old and wise Latin Teacher in the HighSchool told me once on a special ocassion:
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Translated in English: If you had been silent, you would have been a Philosoph.
You make the classification for yourself. And I can not and will not help you.
All the best for you
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]
You make the classification for yourself. And I can not and will not help you.
All the best for you
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
Of course not, since I just proved that your oversimplification was broken.
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Whose The *****
The set up.
1) a condo or house with 2 bedrooms
2) x box or equivalent
3) a stocked kitchen
a coke -(clay grinding pot with wooden club thingy)
rice cooker
hot water jar
Thai condiments
4) a washing machine
5) Porn DVDs (with Asian chicks)
6) an extra used motorbike
Cap trap.
I am happy you have found your little niche in Pattaya.
BUTTTTT.
You provide all the things listed above,the food do the cooking, cleaning entertaining, kissing of asses.
ANDDDD
If you are lucky you will get sex, when they are not busy playing games watching your TV staying in the free apartment, complete with washing machine supplied including soap powder.
Wow why buy an air ticket I have got plenty of whxxes like that at home.
Hey it must be great the days they waltze in after one of us have bar fined them for 1000 got some cheap drinks on the way back to the room banged them for a couple of hours dropped a couple of loads in them and over them,
and then another load in the morning.
What a joy that they can go back to their b**** who will nurture them for the next dirty bastard that night.
Or are you saying they can live off fresh air with your plan?
Like I say I'm glad you have found something for you. But a dirty little bar girls b**** I aint.
I'll keep drinking the drinks I want to drink (nobody has ever made me feel obliged to have a drink) taking who I like, and if I choose a long term girl she'll be doing my washing and cooking.
Patarse
Give it to them in the arse they deserve it.
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You are right!~
You were not clear on what you were saying... if it was ST or LT, one or two girls or what. Most will assume that you are talking about spending that much on a single girl and because of that, the the amount you stated is way to much for Pattaya. If I'm taking only one girl back LT from a Pattaya beer bar then it'll cost me less then 1500 bahts. That's drinks (I don't drink so I have cokes or canned ice tea so that only about 50 bahts each drink), bar fine and the cost for her. Sure I've taken my LT girl to dinner after paying her bar fine so now I'm a little over 1500 bahts but still far short of what you are spending. And I've never had any place in Pattaya give me the evil eye because I order a coke or an ice tea. Being new to this forum don't let us assume we know what you are think! Put it down in black and white and clearly and then we won't have to reply back to rebuttal you.
[QUOTE=Clap Trap]Dude! What do think I mean? Girl+barfine+drinks+drinks at other bars before you finally find the girl you want=2000-3000 baht.
Sorry If I'm not being as clear.
Peace.[/QUOTE]
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3-some
Can anybody advice me if there are any special places i need to go for a good 3-some - i mean where it is not just a show - but where there girls do the real thing? And how much do you pay for this for all night?
Are the any bars with nude dancers and good shows in Pattaya?
Thanks for you advice.
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Pattaya 17-28/12
pattaya 17-20/12
my experiences with the beach road ladies.
i was here five years ago and i state, that there is no change in prices, but in my eyes the efforts of the ladies is reduced. so some are not really into it. the most give a good service, some are outstanding, but around 20-30% give low service.
kung, 22, beachroad
after swimming i ask her for st. 500 thb, i agree. nice looking young lady, body in good shape. bbbj good but too short. in the whole she was very under timepressure. she was thinking more quicktime rather then st.
anyway fucking a nice tide pussy was worth the money. haven`t finished.
it was an experience to see what is pattaya without music and without beer. beer is not so important for me (when i have nice ladies for sex). well i must state out , the walkingstreet was crouded as usual, some artist do a good job on the street to entertain. very relaxed atmosphere. the beerbars are closed. some ladies were sitting there but no "hellooooo comme in" no lady were pushing me on the street. some ladyboys tried it, but that is what i expect from them. strolling along the br i spoke with a lady she refused lt.
then meeting lek, 23, has rouge on the cheeks, so on the second view i was suspicious that she is a lady( i see this rouge a lot with the ladyboys). but she is definitiv a lady, has a son, and the son leaves stripes on the belly. nice face, frenchkissing 0-1/10, bbbj 4/10, fucking 8-9/10. i told her before that i prefer the long fucking, so she agreed. she became very horny after around 20 min, and we fucked quite a lot.
lak (pron. luk) 26
500 st, friend of kung, i first talked with lak, later kung joined us and gave lak the infos from the day before. despite that she came with me. i point out, that i do not mean quicktime , so at least one hour - she agree.
lak, beautiful face, beautiful body 8/10. bbbj 5/10, too short. intercourse 8-9/10. we fucked till i had no more power. didn´t finish, but enjoyed it very much.
bai (pron.: "buy"), br, 26, less talkative, sympatic reserved , nice body 7/10
bbbj 10/10. lt 1000 thb
she made me come two times. great bj, no intercourse.
mei, around 2 am at the br,
she wears glasses that make her look more intellectual. body in pretty good shape 9/10. she mide be around 30, very young and nice face.
she agreed for 1000, wants 1200. i say she will get 1200 when her service is good.
no showering, no french kissing, no bbbj. fucking ok, after 10 min she became wet, 20 min more and she is dry and we stop fucking. in the morning almost the same. not really bad, but wouldn´t choose her again.
really nice body and beautiful face.
i paid 1000 thb
my late morning st i repeat with lak.
this time french kissing was included. nice session. nice fucking, till she becomes dry.
500+tip
jam 21, hard body ( no baby)
500 st, was not really into it, but nice fucking with a cutie. she became dry after 15 min. finishing with hj and stroking my balls.
go. mid 20, slim, fucking 20-25 min 8/10, good bbbj 8/10, finishing with stroking my balls and hj.
finally hit the goal, pan, 23, some piercings,
some stripes on the belly, but her body is in a pretty good shape 8/10. my morning st. meet her at the br. fucking 10/10. very cloth nit together, stroking each other, fucking long, in various position and various speed. very intensive. there was no time pressure. fucking, resting, fucking and so on...we fucked at least 90 min till i finally came in her pussy. these are the sessions that make me addicted to thailand.
i had to check out that day, otherwise i would have continued with her.
back in pattaya. had a date with pan, but she didn´t come. met lek, lak and ai, they invited me to share there meal. it’s nice to talk and joke with this ladies. i was a bit sad and not interested in other ladies. in the night i woke up and did a walk cause i couldn`t sleep again. and in the end i met pan. she was a bit drunk but wants to go with me. fine. sex was again outstanding, but not so intensive as the first time. however we will meet again. nice young lady.
lak
only 35 min
dia, perfect body, but pimple in the face,
like long fucking, made herself comming then me.
intercourse 9-10/10. body 9-10/10
500thb + tip
bum, mid 20, like long fucking as i do, became very horny. she saw me, smile at me and told me that she would like to come with me. the session was at least 1h in my room. intercourse 9-10/10. body 8/10
neither dia nor bum i could find again. they told me that they would be at the br more often, but couldn´t find them again. :-(
fon, end 20, nice face. st.
showering together. body 1-2/10, less active, low sex 1-2/10
500 thb.
neo, 19, small but keen enough for my big cock, finishing licking my balls and hj
500 thb st
dia, an other dia then before, 22, small. fucking ok for 20 min then she blames "cock too big". i told her to do anything else, bbbj she refuse, no other action she offers - so i kick her out. 500thb
noi, 24 br, small but keen enough to enjoy my big cock. bbbj 8/10, very cloth nit together, french kissing persistent, fucking in a big variety. minus: she goes home tonight :-(
ning, very small, br 2-30 am, she works in soi6, gave me best bbbj i ever had 10/10. no intercourse.
500 thb
then pan several times, she likes long fucking as i do. when she is close to me i can smell her youth. each time 1000thb.
finally ??, 22, small, does not really like her job, fucking ok, made me come with handjob and stroking my balls. 500 thb.
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BKK Post: Deadly Starfish Pussy in Pattaya
Be careful dogging the Thai ladies, there's a deadly one looking for you.
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Clap trap
All of this trouble and expense for a go go/bar girl u can fuck for 20-30 USD? This is the reason why u are being ridiculed...it makes no freaking sense. X box, rice cooker, laundry, free moped use, breakfast AND a 300 baht tip? All in hopes that u will get free pussy from a sex worker later on?
If you plan on bartering for sex with go-go girls...know or place a value for your goods
Free moped use?--30/60 min BBBJ
X box use--ok...but can only be done in the nude...whoever loses needs to service u for an hour or two :) :P
laundry? sure...while laundry is being done--she can do U
300 baht tip?...noooooo....30-50 baht for a roundtrip taxi or bath bus
Anyone who stays overnight in YOUR BED will be fucked or they can go back and stay in their crappy apt, and ABSOLUTELY no clothes allowed in your bed.
lastly--assuming it is a nice apt...do u really want a bunch of bar girls hanging out at your condo?--or would you rather deal with beautiful young non-pros--say a hotel worker who lives far away? The marriott and their new bar (Moore) has some beautiful girls working there...THEY should be the object of your pursuits...not bar girls that u can fuck for 700-1k baht..Aim higher my friend..if u come back and say you've fucked a 15K high end girl for FREE..now that's an achievement!!
I am not sure who got it worst, you or the poor chap that barfined a gogo girl who wasted his time for hours before deciding when SHE wanted to fuck him. I paid anywhere from 700 baht to 1k(max) for ST and LT--only one girl complained and I started negotiating backwards " I usally get 2500 or 3k baht---really?.. how does 500 baht sound? We do not travel thousands of miles to sit around entertaining bar girls in the hopes that they will fuck us for free--pussy is way too cheap and abundant in Pattaya. When I was there, I saw 60-80 year old grandpas walking around with 18-20 yo stunners!!
Not sure whether it was thailand or the Phils...on an another board --a monger told a story how he was able to fuck several girls at a club--these girls apparently only fucked japanese men..how did he do it? he waited until closing time..invited a few of them to some cheap street food vendor..after two or three days of this...they were all fighting to fuck him and ended up fucking several of them for free...
hope he doesnt mind...I scrolled back and found a girl that fellow member scribe posted...700 baht....(no rice cooker, no x box, laundry...)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=85072[/url]
had a couple myself of similar quality--but paid 1k avg. :(
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Actually I have gone out to the bars with guys who believed this - basically the 'real' price is so high now that some people have a hard time believing it.
In one particular encounter in Udon, I was out with a young, good looking African dude, and he wanted to go to the 'regular' nightclubs. Of course I refused, and we ended up taking one girl each from Soi Farang. He very reluctantly paid the 300 baht, but apparently assumed it was the whole fee, as afterwards he had a big fight with his girl about the additional. I felt a bit bad as I had diverted the lad from his 'free' venues, so I slipped her 500 when he wasn't looking.[/QUOTE]Well I don't think that it's as wide spread as evilpenevil makes out.
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Three some...
Hey G2007! I've been able to do a three some with beer bar girls before in Pattaya at my own hotel room. Now be forewarned that you are usually allowed to bring one girl back to your room, but an extra charge for the second girl may cost you a little extra, so check with the hotel you are staying at for what that cost might be. Anyway, my normal girl had gone home for a couple of days so two of her girl friends wanted to walk me back to my hotel. When we got to my hotel they insisted (who was I to argue!!! LOL) that they would come upstairs to take care of me!!! And they took GOOD care of me that evening and I was sandwiched in the bed with them for the night! I think I paid them short time rate (500 bahts) each and since it was after hours, I didn't have to pay a bar fine for them. Just find a girl you like (say at a beer bar for example) and ask if she has a good looking girl friend who would like to come along for a threesome. It's just that easy!
[QUOTE=G 2007]Can anybody advice me if there are any special places i need to go for a good 3-some - i mean where it is not just a show - but where there girls do the real thing? And how much do you pay for this for all night?
Are the any bars with nude dancers and good shows in Pattaya?
Thanks for you advice.[/QUOTE]
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3-some
Thanks you Owl,
So I understand that there are no special places where there is a higher succes rate for a threesome - than others.
Are you aware of any places with sexy shows and nude dancers - like there are in Bangkok? A little bit more wild than just pole dancing?
Hope to get some advices where to go and search.
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[QUOTE=Meepmeep99]Well I don't think that it's as wide spread as evilpenevil makes out.[/QUOTE]
I didn't make out that it was widespread at all. I said a faulty understanding of the barfine system among inexperienced visitors to Pattaya was one of the factors why barowners raise prices on BFs during high season. Over Xmas and New Year's, a lot of young guys who've never been to LOS before and who haven't done much mongering visit Pattaya for the first time. Among some of them, there are individuals who believe the BF also covers the cost of the girl's services. When that happens, there's a lot of problem for the girl, the customer and the bar. A high bar fine tends to discourage that kind of punter, just as it discourages the punters who think they can charm the girl into sex without cash compensation.
It's not a widespread problem, but it's not rare, either.
Evil
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One Simple Question
What is the frigging big deal on Soi 6?!...I just don't get it! Am I missing something you guys aren't telling me?
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nude dancing...
I went with an bunch of guys I met from Norway and sometimes with my beer bar girls and they took me to Walking St. There are a lot of go-go bars and nude shows there. A lot of places you can sit at the counter and be arms distance from them dancing or you can sit in a booth/table a little further from the show.
No special place I know of that has a better chance then another for a three-some in Pattaya. But in Pattaya most anything is possible, but I think that you are most likely to success at the beer bars, as there are more beer bars and girls working them and each of them have lots of friends working at that bar. I took one of my girls and four of her friends to the water park in Jomtien before they went to work evening one day (so no bar fine!!!) and I had a ball with them riding the rides and just having fun.
Here's a link to a video of Walking St in Pattaya during Christmas for 2007...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M17NrAV2p0[/url]
[QUOTE=G 2007]Thanks you Owl,
So I understand that there are no special places where there is a higher succes rate for a threesome - than others.
Are you aware of any places with sexy shows and nude dancers - like there are in Bangkok? A little bit more wild than just pole dancing?
Hope to get some advices where to go and search.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=G 2007]Thanks you Owl,
So I understand that there are no special places where there is a higher succes rate for a threesome - than others.
Are you aware of any places with sexy shows and nude dancers - like there are in Bangkok? A little bit more wild than just pole dancing?
Hope to get some advices where to go and search.[/QUOTE]Windmill, a small gogo in Soi Diamond gets pretty hot at times. A lot of lesbian action on stage.
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Hell club - Pattaya
Hi guys,
4 weeks away from heaven and I have some questions about the Hell Club in Pattaya.
Has anyone used them recently? I mean after they broke up from the Eden Club in BKK.
If so, how would you compare them to Eden? Also, do they still offer take aways at 3K baht?
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Nude Dancing
Hooties on Walking street always has nude shows.
Lesbian shows, not the fake ones, last time I was there one girl had a huge strapon and really gave to the other bit** who just loved it.
They also have a lady who does an awesome show with fire.
I've seen her with some bad burns on her tits one night. Had to tip her a couple 100 to help releive the pain.
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Pretty hardcore lesbian action at Go-Gos
X-Zone nearby to Catz and Club Boesche. (Catz also but seemed a bit fake)
Sisters (right on Walking Street) not the prettiest bodies but I saw a lot of carpet munching there.
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Freak Show
Pattaya is at its worst at the moment...it is like a travelling russian circus with freakshow performances provided by hoardes of young english "lads" who all insist on walking round with their shirts off....I have never seen so many tattoed people!! Prices everywhere seem to be inflated to make the most of the holiday season and the girls attitudes seems to have dropped....Serious mongers may wish to avoid Pattaya for a couple of weeks although each to his own...but for the purists it may be best to stay away for now!! Dont get me wrong, I like Pattaya as it is such a fun place but right now it is just overrun.
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[QUOTE=Egathetos]Hi guys,
4 weeks away from heaven and I have some questions about the Hell Club in Pattaya.
Has anyone used them recently? I mean after they broke up from the Eden Club in BKK.
If so, how would you compare them to Eden? Also, do they still offer take aways at 3K baht?[/QUOTE]
Hi I have used the Hell club 3 times the 1st one being In April 2007 and the last two September/October 2007 but for in call only and had no problems.
Google and you can find the website
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Reports Of Distinction!!!!!
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Pattaya is at its worst at the moment...it is like a travelling russian circus with freakshow performances provided by hoardes of young english "lads" who all insist on walking round with their shirts off....I have never seen so many tattoed people!! Prices everywhere seem to be inflated to make the most of the holiday season and the girls attitudes seems to have dropped....Serious mongers may wish to avoid Pattaya for a couple of weeks although each to his own...but for the purists it may be best to stay away for now!! Dont get me wrong, I like Pattaya as it is such a fun place but right now it is just overrun.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more except I would say it isnt going to get any better once the 'high' season is over. Having just returned to Asia after spending the Xmas period in the UK, I can say the amount of interest, in Thailand particularly, is soaring around the local bars etc. More and more young 'lads' getting fed up with the rip offs that are Ibiza, Magaluf, Benidorm etc, hearing an ever increasing amount of stories from the old(er) timers about cheap beer, pussy and sun in LOS and more convenient air routes opening up from very local airports is only going to add to the complaints above.
Sid
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Recommended: Naiklae 3, a romentic place to have sea food
This heart melting seafood place is located by Beach Road in Jomtien. One of our Thail girs knows the place who drove us there. Table settings by the sea, can catch some great view after the sundown. Seafood was great, price are relatively cheaper than Pattaya's.
Now we would like to go to this place by ourselves to impress some more ladies, so we kindly need some direction help: From Pattaya beach to Jomtien beach, by any means of public transportation, or...?
Thanks a lot!!
Strad
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Fuck for free
Hey I am not saying I get free fuck in Pattaya, but close to that area.
Strike one: Met an hair salon lady at a street food vendor, I told her I would not like to eat alone, invited her to join me, she ended up staying my bed for the night, next day she wanted to buy a phone card, so my cost to her was 100 aht
My girl is here.
To be continued
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The Dream Experience Continues - Day 4
This installment covers day four of my trip to Pattaya. The pages are meant to be read in order.
Evil
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The Dream Experience Continues - Days 5, 6, 7
The pages should be read in order.
Evil
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The Dream Experience Ends - Final Day in Pattaya
But after Pattaya, it's on to Bangkok!
Evil
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The Dream Experience Ends - Final Day in Pattaya (cont'd)
I'll continue the TR in the Bangkok section.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]I didn't make out that it was widespread at all. I said a faulty understanding of the barfine system among inexperienced visitors to Pattaya was one of the factors why barowners raise prices on BFs during high season. Over Xmas and New Year's, a lot of young guys who've never been to LOS before and who haven't done much mongering visit Pattaya for the first time. Among some of them, there are individuals who believe the BF also covers the cost of the girl's services. When that happens, there's a lot of problem for the girl, the customer and the bar. A high bar fine tends to discourage that kind of punter, just as it discourages the punters who think they can charm the girl into sex without cash compensation.
It's not a widespread problem, but it's not rare, either.
Evil[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I have to disagree, IMO the high bar fine is to deter customers from removing girls from the bars thus keep the girls in the bar and attracting more punters in to spend money on drinks and lady drinks, a bar with no girls in it will have no customers in it either, if the girls in the go go's were 300bt instead of 600bt then come 9pm there'd be no girls on the stage because they'd be all taken, shrewd bar owners don't want any girls barfined as it kills there bars atmos. If anything a high barfine lets say 1000-1500bt could confuse a newbie in to thinking it all inclusive but not 300bt or even 600bt, if I had a bar I'd be scared shitless that a load of lads might come in take all five girls 300bt bf each, 150bt to the girl, 150bt x5= 750bt for the bar and an empty dead bar.
Meepmeep99
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Strad - quite simple really - the bhat buses leave to Jomtien from the corner of 2nd Road and where the traffic coming up from Walking street turns onto 2nd . You can either get on one of the line-up and wait until they leave or walk a ways and catch the first one that stops for you. 10B. They go up and over the hill into Jomtien then down the beach road.
Since I haven't gone beyond soi 18 I don't know how far they go
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Bad News for Pattaya
Sid
Yes I really fear that Pattaya could go seriously downhill if it gets flooded with more English. Here is an email that appeared on StickmanBangkok today:
"Pattaya the Blackpool of Thailand?
I spent a couple of days in Pattaya. What's happened to that place? While there I saw four farang fights. It just seems like there's gangs of lads everywhere looking for trouble and getting slaughtered on the Chang. It is not the same Pattaya as when I first went a couple of years ago. Maybe it's me getting boring, but I couldn't wait to get the hell out of there. Seems like Pattaya is turning into a stag do Blackpool."
I hate to say it as I am English, but those "lad" types really are the worst of the worst and bring the atmosphere down wherever they go. I met a girl on beach road on Friday night who was telling me that a lot of girls have been getting ripped off by Farang, ie: Not getting paid after the deed as agreed. I am sure the "lads" would be the type that would revel in this....I really hope things get back to normal in a few weeks but generally I fear you are right..it will be very sad indeed...
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Bowerboy,
They come and they go! it's a matter of time before their actions catch up to them. You just happen to come at the same time they came. Next time same time same station you might have a better time.
Stad, Not sure where you are coming from to go to Jomtien, but as noted you should not have a problem catch a bus to Jomtien.
The seafood place you refer too, is it at the other end of Jomtien, where there are no beach chairs and embrallas, seem like the road is somewhat under construction and across the seafood place is a viewing wall? Is there a large dirt parking lot on the side of the place and the place has small and larg wooden tables? Some of waiters are ladyboys in mens clothing? If so, for example if you are coming from maybe the Big C, Central Pattaya, depending on the size of your party somewhere around 110 baht to 150 baht. You should have no problem catching a taxi back either ask the waiters or waitress to waive one down or do it yourself.
Good luck, LBM
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recommendation of a girl on soi 6 pattaya
IMHO she was amazing. NOw realize I was having a run of mediocre providers so this girl was a breath of fresh air. her name was Kim and she was at the La-La Land bar. 300 to the house for bar fine and she asked for 700. she has such a hot body that I gave her 1100.. I dont care if you flame me for tipping her nearly 52%. I am honoring her request that I not post her photo. sorry.
put her ass up in the air and run at it from across the room and tell her that the american who liked to dance sent you
peace
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Bowerboy,They come and they go! it's a matter of time before their actions catch up to them. You just happen to come at the same time they came. Next time same time same station you might have a better time.[/QUOTE]LBM, have to disagree with you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Although Im not suggesting that Pattaya is already condenmed, the changes I have noted myself in as little as the last 4 years, are, indeed, very worrying.
Continue having a great time and enjoying Pattaya for what it is. But be warned, it aint gonna last forever!
Sid
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy]"Pattaya the Blackpool of Thailand?"[/QUOTE]I have recently added my rants worth about the poor state of decline my once loved city of Pattaya is now in. However, for someone to even consider the above statement is an outrage! Pattaya could never be that bad!!!!
Sid :D
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Sid
Yes I really fear that Pattaya could go seriously downhill if it gets flooded with more English. Here is an email that appeared on StickmanBangkok today:
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Why just blame the English?
There are plenty of other scum from other countries who spoil things for everyone else just as much. I respect other people and there country that I visit and always use my manners.
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English
I dont blame the English in general but just the "lad" types...if you are from England you will know exactly the type I mean...if you are not from England then it may be difficult for me to explain.
I agre with Sid, I really think this is part of a trend...I have been going to Pattaya probably at least once a month for the last 3 years and there seems to be a bigger number of these "lads" now....maybe I am wrong maybe it was just a new years holiday thing, but I can well imagine Thailand becoming more popular back in England as described....
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From my experience visiting Pattaya for the last 9 years and now retired in Pattaya. I don't hit the mongering places like many of you for reasons that most of you know. But like most things what comes around goes around! The nightly news and farang newspaper of late sugguest more problems with Germans. My point of view is Pattaya is all about money!
Maybe it's the strenght of the Euro that is attracting the problem drinking tourist or the time of the year but whatever the reason when the elements of money comes into question and the small gangs and the Thai Mafia and the local police get involve things will get back to normal! Whatever that is suppose to be? Even my limited visits to Walking Street, Soi 6,7,8, I have seens fights and drunks running around and acting like idiots and the next time it dead! The local police has recuited many Farangs working out of Soi 9, on beach road to help them with these types of arrest. As for Pattaya going downhill, I think not!
LBM
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[QUOTE=MeatMan]What is the frigging big deal on Soi 6?!...I just don't get it! Am I missing something you guys aren't telling me?[/QUOTE]
Meatman,
first of all, unlike most bars and gogos around Pattaya, Soi 6 is more or less a short-time place which also provides rooms upstairs. It's also cheap, the barfine of approx. 300 baht does include the room, actually most girls live in these rooms, asking for 500-700 for a session.
Drinks are cheap and the girls aren't pushy, never met one asking for a drink. The girls who work there seemed to have a certain attitude and are usually a lot of fun, never met a starfish and those girls are often "open" for everything. Also some fresh meat from upcountry, something you won't find in a gogo.
All in all it's the atmosphere, far more relaxed than Soi 7+8 or Walking Street. In the past this venue was mostly visited by expats and not known by tourists. Many moons back even the Town Hall was located there.
A friend of mine used to own a bar there and he told me that some girls - even extremely ugly IMHO - made very good money by having up to 6-8 customers per day.
Sure, even Tahitian Queen 1 on Beach Road used to have a nice room in the back, but all in all it's the attitude of the girls and the fact that you can pop them right away. It's all a bit dark and shabby inside, but still fun.
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Pattaya Hotels
Just got back from Thailand. While in Pattaya I stayed at Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 and Secrets right off walking street. At first I thought Dynasty Inn was really nice but my room had roaches and not just a few. I have stayed at the Dynasty resort before up on the hill and never had any problems. The resort is not very convenient but it is serene and a nice place to relax. Secrets has a great bar, is convenient, and the owner Larry was a good guy and the hotel had the most comfortable bed I slept in while in Thailand. It was a little noisy though as I was warned about on the forums, but it didn't cause me any problems. I didn't take any girls from Secret's bar cause I fell in love (not literally, well almost) with a girl from one of the gogo's but I noticed a few cute ones there at Secrets. I mostly went during the day to the bar so I probably didn't get to see their choicest girls. I am curious about something one of the girls said though. She said the girls with red necklaces cannot be barfined. Anyone know differently? I was gonna ask the owner cause I saw him there all the time but then the last two times I was in the bar he was out.
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Just as a matter of interest, posters on other boards have brought to light stories, and you know, Norwegians are making a name for themselves as twats.
I do accept the English-style lager lout is also a twat, and all I can hope is that the BiB sort them out.
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Thanks to Little Dinghy, LBM
We went there last night in a group of four. My buddy who has been doing a lady from BKK, a non-pro, who happened to have a car, so the transpo was solved at this time.
Yes, it not too far to reach the seafood location. Its about 2-3 km from the begining of Jomtien, on the road side where they set wooden tables by the beach, and watching the sun going down was suh an wonderful experiece!
Strad
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]From my experience visiting Pattaya for the last 9 years and now retired in Pattaya. I don't hit the mongering places like many of you for reasons that most of you know. But like most things what comes around goes around! The nightly news and farang newspaper of late sugguest more problems with Germans. My point of view is Pattaya is all about money!
Maybe it's the strenght of the Euro that is attracting the problem drinking tourist or the time of the year but whatever the reason when the elements of money comes into question and the small gangs and the Thai Mafia and the local police get involve things will get back to normal! Whatever that is suppose to be? Even my limited visits to Walking Street, Soi 6,7,8, I have seens fights and drunks running around and acting like idiots and the next time it dead! The local police has recuited many Farangs working out of Soi 9, on beach road to help them with these types of arrest. As for Pattaya going downhill, I think not!
LBM[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TripleX] She said the girls with red necklaces cannot be barfined. Anyone know differently? [/QUOTE]
In Secrets, as well as many other establishments, the girls with the red lanyards (cords around their necks to which their name badges are attached) cannot be barfined. That is correct. The girls with green lanyards can be barfined. It's mostly service and support staff and the mamasans that wear the red lanyards, but sometimes you'll find service staff wearing green.
BTW, Larry is an employee of Secrets, but he isn't the owner. The owner's name is Ben.
Evil
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[QUOTE=The Traveler]Meatman,
first of all, unlike most bars and gogos around Pattaya, Soi 6 is more or less a short-time place which also provides rooms upstairs. It's also cheap, the barfine of approx. 300 baht does include the room, actually most girls live in these rooms, asking for 500-700 for a session.
Drinks are cheap and the girls aren't pushy, never met one asking for a drink. The girls who work there seemed to have a certain attitude and are usually a lot of fun, never met a starfish and those girls are often "open" for everything. Also some fresh meat from upcountry, something you won't find in a gogo.
All in all it's the atmosphere, far more relaxed than Soi 7+8 or Walking Street. In the past this venue was mostly visited by expats and not known by tourists. Many moons back even the Town Hall was located there.
A friend of mine used to own a bar there and he told me that some girls - even extremely ugly IMHO - made very good money by having up to 6-8 customers per day.
Sure, even Tahitian Queen 1 on Beach Road used to have a nice room in the back, but all in all it's the attitude of the girls and the fact that you can pop them right away. It's all a bit dark and shabby inside, but still fun.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the info. Now it all seems clear to me!. :)
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Question?
Gentleman. If I was coning from Toronto Canada. Do I have to fly into another airport. Having issues finding Pattaya airport. Is it cheaper to hop from the uk.
Thank for the help
CC
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Coyote Gogo
hey thanks for reply evil.
man i gotta say that the coyote gogo there in pattaya has all hot girls but the bar fine was outrageous especially for pattaya. i was gonna come back at 1 am to get this girl there but then i left and happened upon a really cute greeter for a gogo where all the dancers were pretty much non stunners. she was a lot less expensive than coyote and every bit as cute. so i guess if you want to spend a lot of money and get a really cute girl quickly coyote is okay, but i'd rather not support their outrageous prices.
my cute greeter named teek was awesome, playful outside of the bedroom, and a perfect blend of innocence and sexuality inside the bedroom. when her lips peeled back in a rictus of pain while i was pumping her perfect, nearly hairless pussy i was in pure heaven. on top didn't seem to painful for her and she would grind into me, undulating her hips while i held onto her tiny firm waist. man it was awesome. i miss that girl so much. before i left she told me she was going to go home to ratchaburi if i remember right. she said she was gonna quit because she didn't like working in the bar. i am curious if she will, but doubtful. i don't have anyway to contact her but am gonna check her bar next time i go back, maybe as soon as this summer. i am glad it ain't easy to get visa's for these girls to come to the states cause i would have taken her back in a minute, which is probably not the best idea in the world.
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Pattaya Airport
Hi, Canadian Cowboy,
the Airport of Pattaya is U-Tapao, about one hour to drive by car into the direction of Rayong.
But this is an Airport for domestic flights. I only know, that some Russian aircrafts are allowed to land there. All other international flights end at Bangkok Airport.
And for you it seems to be more comfortable to take a taxi in Bangkok and go to Pattaya then take a domestic flight from Bangkok to U-Tapao and then drive back one hour to Pattaya.
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Canadian Cowboy]Gentleman. If I was coning from Toronto Canada. Do I have to fly into another airport. Having issues finding Pattaya airport. Is it cheaper to hop from the uk.
Thank for the help
CC[/QUOTE]
The airport you fly into is Bangkok (BKK), then about a two-hour trip by taxi/bus to Pattaya. There is an airport closer to Pattaya called U-Tapao (UTP), but don't think about it in terms of flights from Canada. U-Tapao is used mainly for domestic flights, but there are some international charter flights that land there during high season.
Unless you can get to London at a hugely discounted rate (or for nothing) it won't be cheaper to fly via London. Check prices for EVA airlines to BKK out of Vancouver. Also, with the Canadian dollar as strong as it is, look at prices for the non-stop Thai Airways flight between JFK and BKK. That is the quickest way to get to Thailand from Toronto (via New York).
Evil
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Canadian Cowboy
I see others beat me 2 the punch 2 answer your questions
I usually take the bus from Ekkami station the next morning after I arrive late from canada-I'm also from toronto
I leave for Thailand/Pattaya in 2 weeks
I tried 2 PM you, but I guess you have paid for a membership yet
1 of the cheapest routes 2 get 2 Thailand is AA-toronto-chicago-tokyo-BKK
I have an agent here that will get you the best price.
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Hi, Canadian Cowboy,
the Airport of Pattaya is U-Tapao, about one hour to drive by car into the direction of Rayong.
But this is an Airport for domestic flights. I only know, that some Russian aircrafts are allowed to land there. All other international flights end at Bangkok Airport.
And for you it seems to be more comfortable to take a taxi in Bangkok and go to Pattaya then take a domestic flight from Bangkok to U-Tapao and then drive back one hour to Pattaya.
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
You can get certain international flight to Phuket as well.
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Fellas,
Are they still operating Domestic flights out of the old Airport? If so this might be a difference to Canadian Cowboy going to Pattaya by flight or car!
LBM
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3200
Thank you I'm gonna get a visa card to do the membership tonight. What did the flight cost you all in. And if it works out are you looking for a wing man.
CC
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Canadian Cowboy
I purchase my airline ticket 2 weeks before the big spike in the CDN $ in September-taxes in thru my agent I get the flight NOW for $1100 & change.
I'm leaving jan 22nd & coming back feb 19th.
Wingwan would be cool.
I know my way around Pattaya by now somewhat well enough.
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Life is Good in Pattaya
Haven’t submitted a report here for a while mostly due to the fact that I have been so inundated with pussy while living here in Pattaya that I can hardly keep up with them all.
Thanks to OTH and others, only a few days ago I became a paying member of Thai Love Links.com. Since then the shear number of pretty young Thai “good girls” (yes, I mean non P4P girls), e-mailing, calling, and text messaging me wanting to meet for love and romance has been overwhelming. I tell them that I’m not looking for a serious relationship, but just want to have fun with them. Some of them pass on my suggestions, but many others are quite open with it. The following is an actual example of what can be accomplished in a 10 minute chatting session with one of these puppies:
(After the usual preliminary chit chat):
Me: Do you want to have sex with me?
She: u can make sex?
Me: Yes, good, I like
She: yes
Me: I will lick your pussy, OK?
She: Oh, yes I want
Me: Do you want to meet me?
She: yes
She: but i'm have smaal body
Me: I like small
She: small body
Me: yes, I like
She: my milk too small
Me: I like small
Me: You want me to lick your pussy?
She: yes, yes
Me: Will you smoke me and give me blowjob?
She: what blowjob
Me: smoke -- put my penis in your mouth and suck me
She: if u shower can
Me: Yes, of course, I will shower with you
Me: You want to meet?
She: yes u can pic me up in lotus
Me: Tesco-lotus?
She: yes lotus pattaya tai
Me: OK, I be there in 1/2 hour, OK?
She: ok, bye
Me: bye
This is what I recorded in my journal after she left:
1/7/08: I went to Tesco-Lotus and met little Mai as planned; she was hungry so I took her to California Steak and bought her dinner which she appreciated; then I brought her home on the motorbike and we immediately jumped into the shower naked together; she does not have a beautiful face, but she’s quite cute with a very small tight body, tiny tits and a cute round ass and lovely legs; she got on the bed with me and started giving me a wonderful blowjob with a fantastic sucking technique; before I shot my load, I turned her over on her back and licked her little **** until she climaxed in my face; it didn’t take very long to get her off; then I lay on my back and let her finish me with her mouth; I told her I was coming but she left it in and took part of my wad down her throat; she jumped up sputtering and gasping into the bathroom while I chuckled out loud; after she cleaned out her mouth she was quite happy; I am her first falang, (so she says); we cuddled a bit, then she got dressed and I gave her 60b for a taxi home; it was slam, bam, thank you maam and she was good with it; she will do it again anytime I want when she has some free time; I have her phone number ...
Your humble correspondent,
Daddy
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Visa
it isnt the best idea to take one back with you. because tomorrow you will find another and the next day another. it's never ending. they are all loveable.
[quote=triplex]hey thanks for reply evil.
man i gotta say that the coyote gogo there in pattaya has all hot girls but the bar fine was outrageous especially for pattaya. i was gonna come back at 1 am to get this girl there but then i left and happened upon a really cute greeter for a gogo where all the dancers were pretty much non stunners. she was a lot less expensive than coyote and every bit as cute. so i guess if you want to spend a lot of money and get a really cute girl quickly coyote is okay, but i'd rather not support their outrageous prices.
my cute greeter named teek was awesome, playful outside of the bedroom, and a perfect blend of innocence and sexuality inside the bedroom. when her lips peeled back in a rictus of pain while i was pumping her perfect, nearly hairless pussy i was in pure heaven. on top didn't seem to painful for her and she would grind into me, undulating her hips while i held onto her tiny firm waist. man it was awesome. i miss that girl so much. before i left she told me she was going to go home to ratchaburi if i remember right. she said she was gonna quit because she didn't like working in the bar. i am curious if she will, but doubtful. i don't have anyway to contact her but am gonna check her bar next time i go back, maybe as soon as this summer. i am glad it ain't easy to get visa's for these girls to come to the states cause i would have taken her back in a minute, which is probably not the best idea in the world.[/quote]
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Daddy
Nice report of TLL chick
Would you like 2 share her number with the rest of us
I would love 2 meet this fine falang loving woman
I will be in Pattaya in 2 weeks
Keep up the good work
Did you really go into much detail regarding the fucking-did you fuck her? How tight was she if you were her 1st falang?
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TR Pattaya Jun-Dec 07
Hi there,
This travel report refers to both of my visits to the LOS last year (Jun-Jul 07 and Nov-Dec 07).
Beach Road Heaps of chicks, some great bargains but many dodgy chicks /LB. I had heard some stories about the authorities trying to clean the Beach Rd from working girls, however this wasn’t too apparent when I was there.
[b][u]Freelancers (FL) / Clubs[/u][/b]
FLs are my preference, as they are usually more ‘free spirits’ and speak better English than beer-bar girls.
I like Lucifer as it’s got great music (hip-hop / RNB) and cheeky vibes, but it’s dark and has got more chicks with attitude than Marine /Tony’s.
Marine was a good place to visit during my first visit but was pretty empty most times I tried it during the second visit. There are plenty of new clubs and seems like competition is fierce.
Tony’s was interesting. Different, I’d say. More expensive than Lucifer (Singha B210! Soft drink B180 – this is more expensive than pubs here in Aussieland! ), but it’s worth a visit.
XZYTE is an interesting place when you get tired of the P4P game and need a break. More local entertainment with performances and no FLs. Open till 3am, entry (farang rates only) B200 (including 1 drink), Singha B120, water B60.
[b][u]Soi 6[/u][/b]
Great ST (short time) option, especially if you have a LT (long time) ‘TGF’ but need a break.
Just for a quickie, don’t expect too much of a GFE (girlfriend experience) (even though this can probably be found there as well.)
I liked to enjoy both worlds – when my ‘TGF’ had other stuff to do (hair dresser, nails, etc), I used to jump on the bike and have a quickie there. The great thing is the daytime availability!
Also, if you bring another girl to your hotel, your ‘TGF’ will know about it in no time! Thais like to gossip, and also, these girls have very sensitive sensors. So thank God for Soi 6.
Going price B300 BF +B500.
[b][u]Russian Chicks[/u][/b]
Yes, there are occasional Russian working-girls on WS.
‘Why bother? ’ is the first question that pops up. Well, I guess one needs a change from time to time.
After all, I love Thai food (my favourite! ), but I’d get tired of going to Thai restaurants every day.
Most of these girls would be considered cows in their homeland (and some would still be considered so in the LOS). Just have a look at the Russian couples that walk on WS and see what gorgeous girls these ex-commies have got. Cold like ice, fucking attitude, but gorgeous looking!
I saw one stunner in my first visit and approached. I wasn’t sure if she was a WG or a tourist, but when I saw her walking along WS again and again, I dared approaching and asked if she were on a holiday.
"Working", she replied. Game started.
She quoted B1000 ST / B3000 LT.
Note that ST with these chicks is 30 minutes, unlike TGs (Thai girls)!
I didn’t bother asking how long was the LT (probably 45 minutes.).
I thanked her and left, knowing that she would most likely be there the following day in case I feel like paying a LT rate for some cold 30 minutes play with a gorgeous Russian chick.
She wasn’t. I never saw her again.
Which brings me to the risk involved with going with these girls. Oh, well, I’ll save you this one, just use common sense.
[b][u]Hotels[/u][/b]
Two recommendations: (1) Make sure the hotel is GF (girl friendly) – most hotels in Pattaya allow girls in but some require additional JF (joiner fee). If the hotel is GF, that means no JF. (2) Never pay for a long period in advance, unless it’s the Peak Season (Xmas/NYE). There is a lot of continuous construction work in Pattaya and it’s better to pay on a day-by-day basis and move to another hotel if there is too much noise.
Eastiny Place Hotel in Soi 8 would be a good choice at the B1100-1500 range (Superior room at a high floor to avoid the noise). But then again, there are so many new hotels being built there that one should better book a place for the first night or two and have a look around.
And finally. To the most interesting part, the reason why we all return to Pattaya. TGs:
[b][u]#1 – Pip[/u][/b]
23 y. O. , Pip had worked ‘with computers’ and had arrived to Pattaya a couple of months prior to my first visit. (They all say that – I reckon it’s a part of a Manual for WG that they have to memorise.)
Didn’t speak much English, body 9, face 6, GFE 8 (mainly due to communication issues).
I picked her up from a beer bar across from Tony’s.
The usual rate – B300 / BF, B1000 / girl.
[b][u]#2.?[/u][/b]
Sorry, I didn’t get her name. I didn’t really care, though.
I picked her up from Marine disco when I lost hope of finding a hottie for the night. She didn’t speak any English, but danced in a very sexy way and had a gorgeous teasing smile.
It was 3:30am and I just wanted to stick it to her without much conversation. I had ‘broken up’ with my ‘TGF’ intentionally (for a few days only, as she was definitely the best! ) and needed some sex with no intentions (from the girl’s side) for anything more than that. She couldn’t speak English, so I didn’t know what intentions she had. And I didn’t care!
I soon found out, though. This ***** was hotter than mid-day sun in the Sahara desert!
The minute we got into the room she was all over me, licking and sucking.
She was all wet and only wanted rough sex on the spot, ASAP!
She didn’t want to take a shower first and I had to push her into the shower.
She wasn’t pleased when I insisted on using a condom – this horny ***** wanted my dick inside her with no rubber and she begged me to come inside her!
I insisted on using a condom, but the minute I came and took it off she was all over me, rubbing her wet pussy against my dick. I held my hand on it to make sure she didn’t stick it back into her hot and wet pussy while she kept on rubbing.
I was so aroused from this act and her passion that I came for the second time even before cleaning my cum from the first time!
[b][u]#3. Tawan[/u][/b]
Possibly my worst pick up in Pattaya ever.
I was looking for a chick with a non-Thai look (what can I do, I like changes.) and found her in the beer-bar just before WS on the right hand side.
35 y. O. From e-San, claimed to had been working in Pattaya for 4 months but had no skills whatsoever! Nor did she have any willingness to perform.
She did meet the criterion of non-Thai look, but that was the only criterion she met. :.(
The ***** even complained that "I liked sex too much. " Go figure!
I did my best to explain that there is no such thing as ‘to like sex too much’. Oh, well, I guess you win some and you lose some.
[b][u]#4. Pom[/u][/b]
28 y. O. With 3 kids from 2 different Thai ex-husbands (none of whom wanted to see their kids anymore after the divorce – a very common story in the LOS).
I picked her up from a very small bar on the corner of Soi 8 and 2nd Rd.
She had some great GF attitude, but unfortunately I found that I wasn’t too attracted to her. I was attracted enough for this one night, but no longer than that.
[b][u]#5. Nam[/u][/b]
This ***** was exactly the opposite of Pom.
I was madly attracted to her, but she had a terrible attitude.
She had just broken up with her one-year Aussie boyfriend, who had gone back to Australia. She was ‘heart broken’ and could hardly be persuaded to join me.
To her defence I should mention that it was late at night (3:30am at Marine disco) and she did say that she had to wake up very early, as they were supposed to connect a phone line to her apartment or whatever.
We got back to my place and after only 30-45 minutes (during which I did all the work! ) the princess claimed to be tired. She also said that I liked sex too much! :.(Go figure.
She had to leave 8am, so I woke her up early for a morning session. That was a hard job! The ***** didn’t want to even open her eyes! Eventually I had to help myself. Not worth the B1000 spend, but she got the money anyway. I wonder what other members would do in such a case (? ).
[b][u]#6. Aom[/u][/b]
I picked her up from a beer-bar just before WS (on the right hand side), on the far corner.
Poor English, Performance 5 (didn’t want to do doggie style! ), body 6-7.
The usual rates – B300 BF +B1000.
[b][u]#7. Ning[/u][/b]
A nice bargain from the Beach Rd. , 2am. Claimed to had arrived from e-San two days prior to that. Slim body – 8, performance 6-7 (didn’t want to go on top! ).
ST B500 and also gave her B100 to take a taxi back to Beach Rd.
Cute, but poor English. Agreed to LT from 1am for B1000, but I just couldn’t be bothered.
[b][u]#8 and 9.[/u][/b]
These were my two ‘TGFs’ and with whom I stayed (on and off) during my two visits. Ning can be found in a bar on Beach Rd. If you walk through Soi 8 and turn left on Beach Rd, this would be the second or third bar to your left. Boring place with many old ladies, but with Ning!
She was simply gorgeous, but I had to let her go when she started expanding the great GFE and turning it into a WE (Wife Experience)
Great body (I'd say 9-10), face 8 and attitude 6-7.
B200 BF + B1000.[/u][/b]
I met Phung in Tony's, but she can also be found in a bar in Jomtien, in the soi that leads to the White House resort (off Beach Rd). The bar is called Toto and Lulu. I stayed with Phung up until my departure. 10 wicked days in total.
B1000 if you find her at Tony's (+B300 BF if you pick her up from the bar)
Highly recommended. Great body (a slim 9), face 7 and attitude 10.
That’s all for now, folks. Hope you have enjoyed this report. Can’t wait for my next visit in the LOS!
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[QUOTE=Member #3200]Nice report of TLL chick
Would you like 2 share her number with the rest of us
I would love 2 meet this fine falang loving woman
I will be in Pattaya in 2 weeks
Keep up the good work
Did you really go into much detail regarding the fucking-did you fuck her? How tight was she if you were her 1st falang?[/QUOTE]
I dare say that the girl wouldn't be too happy if Daddy started passing her number around. I think that he managed to hook up with her as easily as he did because he lives in Pattaya and she probably sees him as at least stable and quite different from a 2-week sex tourist.
While there's been a noticeable shift on TLL in the last year or so towards girls who are borderline P4P, or least after something less honorable than simply a BF or husband, ALL of them still delude themselves into thinking of themselves as good Thai girls who don't fuck guys for money. So, most tend to shy away from the kind of guy that comes to Thailand for a short fuck holiday.
Also, I'd say Daddy was extremely lucky (somewhat suspiciously so) in scoring with this girl on the first meeting. This is quite rare. I've met about 70 girls online and have only shagged 2 on the first meeting. It usually takes a bit more chatting, (perhaps more than one chat session) and more work than that, before one manages to score.
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Also, I'd say Daddy was extremely lucky (somewhat suspiciously so) in scoring with this girl on the first meeting. This is quite rare. I've met about 70 girls online and have only shagged 2 on the first meeting. It usually takes a bit more chatting, (perhaps more than one chat session) and more work than that, before one manages to score.
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[/QUOTE]Getting into very obvious sex talk over the internet may have helped by making his intention absolutely crystal clear? If the girl was still not scared off, then he must have a very good prospect?
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I dare say that the girl wouldn't be too happy if Daddy started passing her number around... Also, I'd say Daddy was extremely lucky (somewhat suspiciously so) in scoring with this girl on the first meeting. This is quite rare. [/QUOTE]
Well, of course I’m not going to be passing any girl’s number around. I’m a dirty old man, yes, but not a cad. I have never identified in this forum any girl I’ve had the good fortune to shag.
Yes, OTH, I can certainly understand why you might think my report is rather suspicious. I would have never dreamed in a million years that I could get away with talking that way to a woman if I had not read Jungle Bluebird’s method of approaching “good girls” for casual sex encounters. He said that the sooner he would start talking dirty, the quicker he could get into their pants. I was mesmerized by his technique and very much motivated by his tales of conquest.
So I thought: what the hell; why not try it on TLL, a venue in which the worst thing that can happen to me is the girl closing her chat window. I can’t get my face slapped in a chat room, right? So I tried it – not just once -- but several times, and to my utter amazement, most of the girls were quite receptive to the sex talk, and some of them (like the one in my last post) were even game to meet me for nothing more that pure unadulterated sex.
Here is another edited partial transcript, (and I have a few more with other girls), of my recent chat with a pretty little 28 year old sweetheart who lives with her kid and parents about 700km from Pattaya. She wants to come on the bus meet me here for the purpose of me teaching her the fine points of casual coitus. She (in fact all of them) initiated these chats, not me:
Me: have you been with farang man before?
She: no never
Me: why do you want farang?
She: i have seen thai women who get on with farang man they are so happy and they said farang man good taking care too
Me: Yes, some of us know how to please a woman good
She: yes so why i think i want one
Me: you can try me out and if you like can find more
She: yes
Me: hope I don't offend you when I talk about sex
She: its ok some time you can have fun about talking sex
She: are you good kiss?
Me: you want to find out?
She: maybe
Me: Maybe I will kiss you all over
She: i am not a good kiss so i would like some one to teach me
Me: that is what I like
Me: And maybe I will lick you too, you like?
She: yes so much
Me: And teach you how to please me, yes?
She: yes
Me: I will make you wet
She: maybe later when we are together
Me: maybe right now when you think about being with me
She: i dont think so i am in the office
Me: he he
She: i dont want my friend to know maybe they think i am P my self
She: are you get feel now?
Me: say again?
She: i meant do you feeling anything now?
Me: yes, I feel hot for you
She: ok
Me: I want to lick you and make you scream, would you like that?
She: yes
Me: from farang man?
She: yes
Me: you have to relax and enjoy for a long time
She: yes
Me: then you will climax
She: thank you
Me: what will you do to me?
She: do everything
Me: you can suck me until I scream
She: yes
Me: I can see you now on your back with your legs apart for me. And I will kiss you the way you like to be kissed
She: yes
Me: so you can decide when you want to meet me, OK?
She: ok
She: see you later
Me: bye
So, am I incredibly lucky? I don’t know, but if this can be accomplished in the very first chat session, you can imagine what can be had with just two or three more. I think I know now why this place is called the Land of Smiles. :)
Regards,
Daddy
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Daddy
I wasn't doubting you. I was merely saying this girl's behavior is not typical and therefore I'd be suspicious of her. I'll be interested to see if her casual attitude turns into something psycho. I suspect it will. I'll bet anything she has a hidden agenda. They all do. TLL girls are generally crazy and I think that given the overall environment of Pattaya, even no-P4P girls like Mai have got to be somehow corrupted by the place.
I've had a similar experience with someone who swore she was ok with a casual relationship, who knew I had a GF, but who has now turned into an out-and-out nutcase demanding money. She's been sending me text messages saying that since I had sex with her before, I now have to give her money. I haven't seen her in 2 1/2 months and these messages only just started this week. This is far from an isolated incident. I've had my fair share of TLL nutjobs stalking me and threatening me. You have to remember that most of them are slightly desperate in the first place. Or, they wouldn't be online looking for a BF. Also, remember, (although I doubt that this is important to you) that they are generally all from the lower classes and therefore want and/or need money at some point or other.
Good luck. But, just be careful. If it seems easy, there's a reason.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]... You have to remember that most of them are slightly desperate in the first place. Or, they wouldn't be online looking for a BF. Also, remember, (although I doubt that this is important to you) that they are generally all from the lower classes and therefore want and/or need money at some point or other...[/QUOTE]
OTH,
Yes, I believe you, but somehow my intuition tells me that little Mai will be OK since she had a great attitude and seemed to enjoy the experience a great deal.
On the other hand, I was chatting with another prospect yesterday who told me that she was looking for a husband and would never even consider a casual encounter. Only a few minutes later, however, she was telling me how poor she is and how she really needs some money. She asked me to give her 5000b and I told her no way. I then asked her what she would do for me if I helped her out, and she said: "Anything you want." I mentioned a number of acts I wanted, and she generally agreed to each.
Then I told her I might agree to give her the same as I might give any Pattaya bar girl. She said: "How much," and I told her maybe 500b for each time she made me finish. She hesitated a very long time while she considered the proposition, then said: "Will you give me more?" I flatly said "No." A few seconds later her chat window was closed.
I just laughed to myself and figured that I was glad she didn't agree to what I had offered as she is probably a certifiable psycho. So perhaps I'm flirting with danger but I'm having a hell of a lot of fun doing it.
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Some Pattaya Gogos worth a visit
I recently visited Pattaya in Sept 07.
I walked around alot and mostly the quality was not good.
Silver Star Agogo
In need of some air con and a draught lager headed into silver star agogo now on soi 7 was previously on soi 8. Not many punters in there but around 40 girls. After a while realised one in ten was definitely bf material, but my night out had only just started.
Well could not resist one agreed LT for 2000bt and bf was 600bt, BKK prices here, but what the hell.
She was really cute, had something to eat in soi 7 and then back to the hotel. She was quite small and tight only 20yo.
After a good session we fell asleep and the next thing its 4:30am. Yes it is nice to cuddle up with a lblm. Little brown loving machine.
Had a good shag in the morning and she left around 8am.
Buffalo Bar.
Took a little cutie back from there, 19yo. She was a little shy and at first I was thinking maybe I didn't want to have to work at all for it. But decided to see it as a challenge. So made her feel welcome and safe, she then tell me she feel a little scared so we chatted on the bed for about 1 hour and she noticeably got more relaxed.
This is why I like long time as you can take your time. I then took a shower and clean shave and some mouth wash. Honestly a bit later she is jumping on top of me and fucking my brains out basically. Real change around considering for a moment I was planning on sending her home early.
As it was not too easy I found this more of a turn on too.
Hot and Cold
Another good gogo for some down and dirty fun is the hot and cold just up from the pump station. Had 3 girls all over me and could take them upstairs for 1K each and no barfine. They were telling me anal and cum in mouth (cim). Was getting turned on.
If I wanted I could take 10 girls upstairs for 10, 000bht and they would all take it in turns to suck me off Now thats crazy. I naturally declined their offer. Some big black guy came in and then took 3 girls out. Its a good gogo, well worth a visit.
I did return a couple of nights later and this time a different pair and each expected to pay a barfine.
Peppermint
Next night I decided to visit Peppermint, a few nice girls dancing around, was feeling tired so tried a new drink vodka and red bull, this did the trick was feeling lively again. Just by her face I noticed a really attractive girl, she started to smile back then came over, wow what a fit little body on her, no tattoos bright eyes silk hair and skin, totally fit, one of the best thai little asses I have ever seen.
Then she tell me she only a dancer does not go with falang and I was wearing my new gold chain as well. First time iv had one of these. She did look fresh and untouched Alot of young poseurs around walking street.
Massage Next night hit one of the massage places down soi 2. After all these young ones went for a maturer woman, who looked half indian with really great tits. Turns out she was half indian, 34. Don't really see the point of all this slopping around on a lilo with soaps and suds Not bad but it was all a bit false to me.
Afterwards could not resist a really cute 20 yo in some beer bar walking back up towards soi 6. Played some bar games with her and then bar fine her for 300bht. Back at the hotel she was a very affectionate and happy lbfm.
In the morning another good shag And yes only payed her 1000bht.
On my last night in town, I must say have mixed feelings about leaving. Big part wants to stay another part wants to go home. I felt myself being drawn to soi 7, to bf that little darling from the gogo down there that I have taken out two nights now. This is not good as I maybe like her too much. Manage to stop myself. Another night cuddled up with her in bed would have been too depressing when leaving She really is the best looking girl iv seen in Pattaya this year and nice girl with it too.
In the end just had a massage with two young girls 18 and 19 with some 'chuk wu' or handjob. So a wind down really.
Really wanted to fuck the 18yo really cute, but she told me to come back tomorrow and take her on her own. So it does work against you sometimes to take two if they are not a double act.
They reckon they both students. Just 300bht each extra for handjob. They had some experience at this.
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Question?
Ok if I was to spend 2 weeks in Pattaya in Feb. What would I budget for rooms and food. And whats the goin rate for women now? I'd like a nice room nothing super fancy with a/c where would you suggest?
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SirMarjAlot
The last report by LongRanger was actually by me SirMarjAlot.
LongRanger was an old alias of mine, and it had automatically signed in with this old alias. All apologies.
LongRanger is quite a common name on various websites and often conflicts whereas SirMarjAlot is unique.
I do run my own blog. But admin won't let me post a link to it.
I don't agree with this as I am not trying to steal traffic or custom only offer an alternative view. By posting the stories into this forum I am adding value to the forum. A bit of cross pollination never hurt anyone. Its not like anyone would ever come back here.
When people are considering visiting a place of interest they don't usually restrict themselves to one information source.
Agreed. If people only post links to their site and add no value to this great forum then the post should be removed. Also these sites should provide links back to here.
I'm not competing as it is not a forum. It just occurred to me iv done alot of travel over the last 5, 6 years and want a single place to put all my stories and their associated pics. I wish more mongers would do this also.
But we would always want a community forum. Sorry if I have offended and no disrespect intended.
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Rtff!
And by the way, quickest way to Bangkok is via Hong Kong. Both Air Canada and Cathay Pacific have daily non-stops from Toronto to Hong Kong. So you can do it in one stop.
[QUOTE=Canadian Cowboy]Ok if I was to spend 2 weeks in Pattaya in Feb. What would I budget for rooms and food. And whats the goin rate for women now? I'd like a nice room nothing super fancy with a/c where would you suggest?
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I think we're allowed to share links if it's by Private Message, isn't that right?
The way search result priority works, or part of the way it works, is that the more links there are out there on the internet to a certain site, the higher that site gets bumped up in the search results to the top (closer to page one, number one result). So it means that if there were more sites out there with links to this site, that would benefit this site because the more visits a site gets (and higher result in Google/Yahoo would equate to more visits), the more money the site can make.
I haven't searched lately for this site on Google or Yahoo, maybe this site doesn't need it, not sure.
I know a guy who runs a 'link farm' -- basically dummy websites that have links to websites of people he charges for the service -- what they get out of it is higher placement in the search results of Google and Yahoo.
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Canadian cowboy
Food if you mix western and local should average not over 400 baht a day for 6 meals.Hotel reasonably good, with hot water and aircon 600 baht near Walking Street.Girl can be as low as 400bast a pop in beach road to how much you want to give.
I should also be in Pattaya latter half of February this year and probably April and again in June.
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Links
[QUOTE=Wendella]I think we're allowed to share links if it's by Private Message, isn't that right?
The way search result priority works, or part of the way it works, is that the more links there are out there on the internet to a certain site, the higher that site gets bumped up in the search results to the top (closer to page one, number one result). So it means that if there were more sites out there with links to this site, that would benefit this site because the more visits a site gets (and higher result in Google/Yahoo would equate to more visits), the more money the site can make.
I haven't searched lately for this site on Google or Yahoo, maybe this site doesn't need it, not sure.
I know a guy who runs a 'link farm' -- basically dummy websites that have links to websites of people he charges for the service -- what they get out of it is higher placement in the search results of Google and Yahoo.[/QUOTE]Yes I have been reading up on this lately. The latest algorithms for working out your position in a search listing is now secret and uses many factors. If your link is found in a link farm you lose points.
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Canadian Cowboy,
I think it all depends on who you are and what sort of girls you like to spend your money on. The price you pay has always been a touchy subject.
There being three general categories.
Cheap. The infamous cheap charlie.
You could get a room somewhere past second road for 400bht, possibly less.
You could eat thai food, and take girls from beach road. Possibly sleeping eating and shagging for 1000. 1500bht a day.
Medium. Stay somewhere like the Flipper lodge on soi 7 and 8. Eat at resturants drink in the beer bars occassional visit to Gogos. Approx 5000bht
Top range. Well the sky is the limit. The more money you have the more there is to spend it on really.
Places like Thailand are cheap in comparison to the same what we get back home. But it just allows you to spend the same or more without some discipline.
IMHO
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I found Airfare from buff for 1050 all in or 1270 all in from Toronto so its not that bad I've planned 2 g's US for my time down there (2weeks). Think I can still make it. I also found a nice hotel [url]www.roofgardeninn.com[/url] was wondering if there anything like this closer to the walk. Buts its a nice place for the price 700baht a nite.
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Pattaya help
I will be in Pattaya from Feb 7-11 for a short trip. This is my first time to PAttaya and was wondering what is the best way to get from Bangkok to Pattaya. Also, I am staying at a place called Secrets. Is this a good hotel? I have searched the thread and haven't heard mention of it.
Thanks and if anyone else will be around PM me it would be great to grab some drinks with some mongering bruthas.
Regards,
Ye Lo PAn
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[QUOTE=Canadian Cowboy]I found Airfare from buff for 1050 all in or 1270 all in from Toronto so its not that bad I've planned 2 g's US for my time down there (2weeks). Think I can still make it. I also found a nice hotel [url]www.roofgardeninn.com[/url] was wondering if there anything like this closer to the walk. Buts its a nice place for the price 700baht a nite.
CC[/QUOTE]
Yes the roof garden inn is excellent. Admittedly it sucks getting into pattaya sometimes with a backlog of traffic. But the rooms are first rate and the staff are excellent!
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Stay in Pattaya, not towards Jomtien
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Originally posted by Canadian Cowboy]
I also found a nice hotel [url]www.roofgardeninn.com[/url] was wondering if there anything like this closer to the walk. Buts its a nice place for the price 700baht a nite.
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You should seriously consider staying somewhere more central. The roofgardeninn to me is "out in the sticks". I stayed in Jomtien for 6 months and the worse part was all of the travelling in and out of Pattaya on the Baht buses.
Everything you need is in Pattaya, so stay somewhere central like Soi 13 (eg Whitehouse condotel for 1500B high season, or one of the Sawasdee Hotels(Soi 10 or 11) for 500B to 900B depending on which one it is).
By the way the 700B quoted by the roofgarden inn is a low season rate. Low season starts 1 March, so you will be paying more than that for a visit in February.
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The roof top is 700 baht/nite jan. April so I'm still ok. But I don't get your point of staying closer to the action.
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C.C.
If you are coming for the first time or coming for a short trip what they are saying is Jomtien is further south of Pattaya. Although the prices are somewhat higher and does have action in the area the location is more for relaxing. From the main action, by baht bus it could take you 15 minutes to 30 minutes depending on the traffic.
Check the web and get a map and of Pattaya. One of the main action is Walking Street and that is already South of Pattaya and Jomtien is South of Walking Street. First timers as they say stay closer to the action!
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
From the main action, by baht bus it could take you 15 minutes to 30 minutes depending on the traffic.
Check the web and get a map and of Pattaya. One of the main action is Walking Street and that is already South of Pattaya and Jomtien is South of Walking Street. First timers as they say stay closer to the action!
LBM[/QUOTE]
When I stayed at Roof Garden I could get to walking street in less than 30 minutes by walking. A baht bus hardly took anytime at all. I could be remembering wrong, but I dont think so. Roof Garden was a great place for a first timer to stay.
Horatio
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you might get TO walking street in 30 minutes, but it's DOWNHILL. It's actually downhill (mostly) into Jomtien as well but farther
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Fellas,
The choice is his to make. But all the suggestion to him was that since it is going to be his first time in Pattaya. His stay, as suggested is maybe it would be better for him to stay closer to the action without having to take a bus ride back and forth to Jomtien for a 1st timer.
Personally I would stay in Jomtien but if it was the first time NO! but to each his own. Now he has gotten some comments it's his decision to make.
Bus or no bus?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Yelopan]I will be in Pattaya from Feb 7-11 for a short trip. This is my first time to PAttaya and was wondering what is the best way to get from Bangkok to Pattaya. Also, I am staying at a place called Secrets. Is this a good hotel? I have searched the thread and haven't heard mention of it.
Thanks and if anyone else will be around PM me it would be great to grab some drinks with some mongering bruthas.
Regards,
Ye Lo PAn[/QUOTESearch again cause I just posted about Secrets last week.
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Thank you for everything. You are all Gentlman and Scholars (or close enuff)
Roofgarden maybe a good place to start and then find something closer. Or even vice versa. I got time. 4 weeks till I leave.
CC.
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girl friendly hotels
HI
I'm off to Pattaya in early March. Does anyone have a list of girl friendly hotels in Pattaya? I have a couple of hotels that I am thinking of staying at, they being The Mecure and Green Park Resort.
Can anyone help me out of even give some advice on the above 2 places.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=DanTheMan]HI
I'm off to Pattaya in early March. Does anyone have a list of girl friendly hotels in Pattaya? I have a couple of hotels that I am thinking of staying at, they being The Mecure and Green Park Resort.
Can anyone help me out of even give some advice on the above 2 places.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Try looking in the pattaya hotel section
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Best Massage in Pattaya (with Happy Ending)
I 've never find the best lady, sex and massage service like this in Pattaya. Want to share and recommend to my friends here. The service of Japanese body massage is perfect. The ladies mostly a part-time and not sitting all the time like glass-bowl. I feel really a natural sex by the girls. The best service is 2 ladies only 3300 b. This is new year gift for you. The place is called "Gentlemen Massage" Nort Pattaya, 3rd Rd.
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Time from Patt to BKK
Hi,
I'll be in Pattaya soon.
Need some info:
If I need to catch a flight from BKK at 9.00am, is it safe to leave Pattaya at 6.00am?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Try looking in the Pattaya hotel section[/QUOTE]Check out [url]www.asiarooms.com[/url] they have good deals.
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[QUOTE=KelantanKing]Hi,
I'll be in Pattaya soon.
Need some info:
If I need to catch a flight from BKK at 9.00am, is it safe to leave Pattaya at 6.00am?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi Not enough time to catch a flight if you leave at 0600hrs from Pattaya. You normally have to check in at least 2 hours before departure sometimes 3 hours. Taxi will take about 90 minutes to the new aiport and more to the old one.
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Leave between 5-5:30am but no later than 5:30AM, 1 1/2 to new airport if he is on time and nothing happens on the way!
LBM
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[QUOTE=DanTheMan]HI
I'm off to Pattaya in early March. Does anyone have a list of girl friendly hotels in Pattaya? I have a couple of hotels that I am thinking of staying at, they being The Mecure and Green Park Resort.
Can anyone help me out of even give some advice on the above 2 places.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If your looking for a nice hotel, and girl friendly, let me know how much you want to spend a night.
I was just there in June, so I know alot of the places.
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Does anyone happen to know If I can send a letter poste restante to soi postoffice?
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I have not been back to the Center of the Universe in months, and yes, brothers, I feel I am beginning to whither away. Can any of you lucky men there report upon the condition of the Beach Road?
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I have not been back to the Center of the Universe in months, and yes, brothers, I feel I am beginning to whither away. Can any of you lucky men there report upon the condition of the Beach Road?[/QUOTE]
I'll be there next week. Not planning to spend too much time down there, but I will report back.
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Just spent 3 days in Pattaya. First of all, there's a bar on Beach Road between Soi 7 and Soi 8 called We Are The World - they offer bottled beer (Singha and Chang) for 30 baht until about 10pm.
Welkom Inn - I can't say enough good things about this place. Afternoon short time bar, 1000 baht gets you laid. I've taken a few of the ladies there (many are stunners) and have always had a good time. Took one of the barmaids this time and she was great. Draft Heineken is 50 baht - can't beat it.
Walking Street - Really crowded these days. I would never barfine any of the girls here during the high season - most are asking for at least 2000 baht for LT. A lot less than BKK, but still too much (yeah, I'm cheap. But I live here!). Went into Heaven Above - the place has gone downhill. The showgirls just aren't what they used to be. Same can be said about Happy - half of the showgirls have baby scars on their stomachs! Lots of bored looks on their faces as well. Beach is good, and Windmill has really improved - lots of friendly girls in those places who will talk to you for a bit and not immediately ask for a drink.
Soi 6 - King Kong is always good for a laugh. Went in there and as usual there's some British bloke on the couch getting his knob sucked. Talked to a girl aptly named "King" who is very nice. Didn't barfine her, though as it was a bit early. After 9pm, barfines go up to 500 + 1000 for short time. Also hit the "O" bar - some really great looking girls in there. Barfine is 300 plus 700 for the girl.
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Gentlemen,
Wondering can I get Viagra/Cialis in Pattaya and if so wheres the real stuff located.
Thanks,
CC
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What not to do in Thailand...otherwise...
"Estonian man dies following attack on Walking Street
A disturbing incident occurred on Walking Street in the early hours of Sunday Morning which was initially dealt with by the Tourist Police based on the street. Three men from Estonia made a complaint at the Tourist Police Mobile Unit regarding a confrontation with three Thai Men in Soi 15. It is thought the men were being ushered into a Show Bar but decided at the last minute that they did not want to go. The Thai men became angry and a fight ensued. The men were told to make their way to Pattaya Police Station to make a report, however they decided to take matters into their own hands and went back to confront the Thai men. It is thought that more than 15 men set-upon the three Estonian Men. One managed to run away, a second was hit over the head with a steal pole and a third man was stabbed in the leg with a broken bottle. A major artery in his leg was severed and he was rushed to Hospital. Later on Sunday he died from the injury according to medical staff at the Pattaya Memorial Hospital. The incident, which is now a murder investigation, occurred only meters away from the Tourist Police Unit and is now being investigated by Pattaya Police and the Tourist Police as the hunt for the attackers continues. We understand that as of Monday Afternoon, no arrests had been made in connection with the attack."
SOURCE: Pattaya City News
They didn't deserve it, but they should have expected it, this is Thai style, and very very normal behaviour.....a lesson to all, swallow your pride, your ego and walk the f**k away...or be dealt with Thai style.
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[QUOTE=Meaty]<cut>
They didn't deserve it, but they should have expected it, this is Thai style, and very very normal behaviour.....a lesson to all, swallow your pride, your ego and walk the f**k away...or be dealt with Thai style.[/QUOTE]
Yeh, how many times have we seen a Farang go looking for trouble in Thailand, and find it multiplied by 100?
Anger must be controlled at all costs, and mind your own business too.
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Trouble
I think more to this than meets the eye ?
We all know the Thais mentality is whats theres is theres and what ours is everybodys but when you dont want something if polite and eat humble pie they get pissed off but leave you alone these old Eastern block guys will have been showing there muscles off we have all seen them and then they got a bashing !!!
As what as been posted do NOT comfront Thais smile be polite and walk away
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Just back from gods kitchen
Beach Road soooooooooooo busy in the day up to 100 girls 500 - 800b max for short time.
Soi 6 i have never seen it as busy 100s of what ever takes your fancy
Be very carefull many drink getting spiked with Ketamin " sorry spelling" i heard of 4 cases when out there one guy total cleaned out in his room others usual pockets dipped soi8 main spot but happening in other areas also
Safe travels
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Where in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Canadian Cowboy]Gentlemen,
Wondering can I get Viagra/Cialis in Pattaya and if so wheres the real stuff located.
Thanks,
CC[/QUOTE]Walk up soi 13 from Beach Road to Second Road, turn right and walk for maybe 15 meters. There you will find a pharmacy. The owner may be a little shy at first, but he has got the stuff you want. The price is ok too.
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pharmacy
Also just across the 2nd road from where you mentioned is a pharmacy next door to Tim's Bar that I've gone too! Lady working there is not shy (just business as usual) as I've been in there when a lot of local farangs are there picking up their orders for the day!
[QUOTE=Kurtweiler]Walk up soi 13 from Beach Road to Second Road, turn right and walk for maybe 15 meters. There you will find a pharmacy. The owner may be a little shy at first, but he has got the stuff you want. The price is ok too.[/QUOTE]
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Forget about Viagra, Get Cialis!
Cialis is AWESOME!!!
I shoped on soi Buakhao south from Soi diana inn-Soi lemkee. There are 5-6 pharmacies on east side. I asked them all there price and got 5 dollar Cialis. About 4th one S. from intersection.
Cialis rocks- Ready when you are- No heart pounding!
Try 1/2 20 mg. tab per day.
Belmont
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Cialis is AWESOME!!!
I shoped on soi Buakhao south from Soi diana inn-Soi lemkee. There are 5-6 pharmacies on east side. I asked them all there price and got 5 dollar Cialis. About 4th one S. from intersection.
Cialis rocks- Ready when you are- No heart pounding!
Try 1/2 20 mg. tab per day.
Belmont[/QUOTE]
You probably didn't pay 5 dollars - you almost certainly paid in baht. How much? 150, 175 200? And how many tablets did you get for that?
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2nd Rd, Central Pattaya. I believe Soi 6, maybe 7, but no further than that. It is on the corner and next to a 7/11, has all your regular needs originals or after market. Lipitor, Nexum, Viagra, anti-biotics, etc... never had a problem years ago purchase Lipitor and brought it back had it tested at U.C. Lab, real stuff.
LBM
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Cialis
For the record I paid in Baht.
And I paid 700 baht for pack of 2x20mg. and I bought 3 packs.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]You probably didn't pay 5 dollars - you almost certainly paid in baht. How much? 150, 175 200? And how many tablets did you get for that?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Meaty]"Estonian man dies following attack on Walking Street
They didn't deserve it, but they should have expected it, this is Thai style, and very very normal behaviour.....a lesson to all, swallow your pride, your ego and walk the f**k away...or be dealt with Thai style.[/QUOTE]
Are we talking about Fantasia Show Bar?
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[QUOTE=Svenpattaya]I 've never find the best lady, sex and massage service like this in Pattaya. Want to share and recommend to my friends here. The service of Japanese body massage is perfect. The ladies mostly a part-time and not sitting all the time like glass-bowl. I feel really a natural sex by the girls. The best service is 2 ladies only 3300 b. This is new year gift for you. The place is called "Gentlemen Massage" Nort Pattaya, 3rd Rd.[/QUOTE]
Your only 2 posts have to do with advertising a certain massage establishment. 3300b for 2 ladies. Pretty steep for Pattaya. But if the place has nice looking women who provide the kind of service found in Hell then you are a winner.
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[QUOTE=Belmont]For the record I paid in Baht.
And I paid 700 baht for pack of 2x20mg. and I bought 3 packs.[/QUOTE]
If you paid 700 baht for a pack of 2 pills then you paid approximately $10.61 USD per pill -- more than twice the sum of $5 you originally quoted for Cialis. Conversely, generic Viagra can be purchaseded at some Pattaya pharmacies for 300 baht per pack of 4 pills, or a bit less than $2.50 USD per pill.
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[QUOTE=Tulip777]Are we talking about Fantasia Show Bar?[/QUOTE] The exact bar wasn't named in the article.
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My mistake
It was a pack of 4!
[QUOTE=Daddy07]If you paid 700 baht for a pack of 2 pills then you paid approximately $10.61 USD per pill -- more than twice the sum of $5 you originally quoted for Cialis. Conversely, generic Viagra can be purchaseded at some Pattaya pharmacies for 300 baht per pack of 4 pills, or a bit less than $2.50 USD per pill.[/QUOTE]
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Activity 20/28 February
Hy every body,
Will be in Pattaya at the end of February. Can someone tell me if it is a busy period with tourist, need hotel reservation, traffic with girl easy?
Thanks very much
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[QUOTE=Tom Tomus]Hy every body,
Will be in Pattaya at the end of February. Can someone tell me if it is a busy period with tourist, need hotel reservation, traffic with girl easy?
Thanks very much[/QUOTE]
Still high season. Plenty of hotel space in Pattaya. If you want a specific popular hotel then reserve in advance. You need to read this forum to skip hotels which charge joiner fees.
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Yeh, how many times have we seen a Farang go looking for trouble in Thailand, and find it multiplied by 100?
Anger must be controlled at all costs, and mind your own business too.[/QUOTE]
If there is no punishment or consequences then very soon it will be an everyday occurence. I guess changing your mind about going in a bar should be a crime, especially when touts need some yaba money. I do agree that Estonians were stupid to go back to sort things out though.
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what is **** sex ???
i am a bit confused these days, and i need someone to enlighten me. what is exactly **** sex ?
here's what happened. last week, on a sunny mid-afternoon, i was stolling along soi 6 and i stopped by to chat up a cuty in front of her bar, when i suddenly heard a concert of whistle and ooooooooooooh ! coming up from all the girls standing and sitting both sides of the soi. looking for the reason of such an excitement, i then saw a young blond boy in his 15,16 holding the hand of a brown thai stunner, higher than him on her high heels shoes, wrapped with not much more than a micro-miniskirt and a tiny teeshirt. close behind was coming a tough looking farang with a pair of solid tatooed arms. the boy, who must have hoped for a more discreet retreat, looked very embarrassed by all the uproar and having one hundred pair of eyes watching him walking through with his girl. he was walking stiffly, his eyes right ahead, but the girl was all giggling about her sudden celebrity in the soi. what's that, i asked the girl ? "he papa pay lady for son". how old is the son ? "i think 16, he lucky, no ?" sure he was, i would haved loved, when i was 16, to have my dad offering me thai prostitutes ! what a good father, i thought ! but then i start wondering : is this ok ? is this legal ? an adult sex worker having sex with a 16 years old punter, is this not ****phily ? or is ****phily only when a girl is ****d and her male partner is over 18 ? but then isn't that definition sexist ? what about sex equality ? i am puzzled really...
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[QUOTE=Svenpattaya]I 've never find the best lady, sex and massage service like this in Pattaya. Want to share and recommend to my friends here. The service of Japanese body massage is perfect. The ladies mostly a part-time and not sitting all the time like glass-bowl. I feel really a natural sex by the girls. The best service is 2 ladies only 3300 b. This is new year gift for you. The place is called "Gentlemen Massage" Nort Pattaya, 3rd Rd.[/QUOTE]
LOL! Sven, nice try. Two posts and both about the same massage place.
AT2
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[QUOTE=Tulip777]If there is no punishment or consequences then very soon it will be an everyday occurence. I guess changing your mind about going in a bar should be a crime, especially when touts need some yaba money. I do agree that Estonians were stupid to go back to sort things out though.[/QUOTE]
Sensible and balanced. Going back for more aggro is daft anywhere in the world. But I've recently read a few posts by expats and long-time visitors that have made my skin crawl slightly. Apparently, blatantly criminal activity by Thai locals is acceptable, but agitatedly naiive behaviour by farang newbies is som nam na. I genuinely hope that those creepy expats and similar don't become victims. And if they are unfortunate enough to be mugged, I hope nobody on this forum tries to transfer the blame for their misfortune onto them.
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sad
Two sad news in The Nation yesterday : A asshole farang making a baby to a bar girl and unable to assume his reponsibilities of his acts, and a drunk asshole farang destroying a bar. I wouldn't be surprised to read that it was the same man !
Newly-born baby with broken neck found at Pattaya garbage dumping site
The Nation Sun, 27 Jan 2008 0:56 AM PST
Pattaya - A scavenger found a body of a newly-born baby, who appeared to be a half-Asian, half-western, inside garbage bags Sunday afternoon.The body with broken neck was stuffed in three bags and was found by Ead Kua-suathia, 47, who combed through the site in Tambon Khao Mai Kaew in Bang Lamung district for recyclable garbage for sale.Police said the baby appeared to have died five to ten ...
Finnish man beaten up after damaging Pattaya bars' properties
The Nation Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:11 PM PST
Pattaya, Chon Buri - A Finnish man was beaten up by six or seven Thai men after the tourist, who appeared drunk, destroyed properties of some bars early Sunday.Police said Numela Matti Juhani, 54, was hit by the Thai men until he became unconscious. The attack happened at about 3 amThe Finnish tourist suffered a severe cut on his head apart from bruises all over his body.Witnesses told police ...
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Sensible and balanced. Going back for more aggro is daft anywhere in the world. But I've recently read a few posts by expats and long-time visitors that have made my skin crawl slightly. Apparently, blatantly criminal activity by Thai locals is acceptable, but agitatedly naiive behaviour by farang newbies is som nam na. I genuinely hope that those creepy expats and similar don't become victims. And if they are unfortunate enough to be mugged, I hope nobody on this forum tries to transfer the blame for their misfortune onto them.[/QUOTE]
Last year a farang walking with his Thai girlfriend was almost beaten to death after he accidentally splashed some rain water on a group of Thais. Police found them - these guys were food vendors by day. They were forced to go to the hospital to apologize (probably because the victim was a respected member of a community, helping the poor). I wonder if they got any jail time for this. I just don't see any other motives for such behavior, other than hatred. We need to know the exact name of the bar where the Estonians were originally assaulted.
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From a newcomer... some info
dear friends,
i just write here for begging some help well before hand, and if any needs in russia ukraine or brasil, i’ll be happy to exchange.
i do not know when, but in some months, unfortunately the hottest, but with a/c i do not care we will mostly saty inside and have fun…
i’ll go with a friend and we have a clear plan, starting from eu on friday and getting back on monday (not the next of course) so we will spend 8 nights in pattaya. i’m use to travel alone in most parts of the world but i’ll need some “help for some special items”. i’ve red carefully everything here but i found contrastating answer.
our plans are very simple: two different hotels 4 nights each in two different environments.
the first, we think, would be a big suite in penthouse (even if i red many bad reports, but the place seem even more kinky than a brothel so…) and a real relaxation in the luxury villa of secrets. at both we hope to find as written the id front desk keeping policy… no **** and no theft!
checked the price we see that we will spend the equivalent of a normal four star hotel with breakfast for one in kiev or moscow (special offer, not rack rate!).
our idea is having girls from different locations the normal go go’s and the establishments of the hotels… but some like four-six every night… (it’s the price of one-two in ee) and we will share them, no real group sex, but threesomes and foursomes, may be if we find the right one even some sandwich, but we are not so much in too that.
my questions are in order mainly to some simple items i did not really understand. i know there is no problem in getting two three girls in the bed but… just some question (i know i’ll ask the mamas an, but i like to know your opinions)…
bbbj with cim of cof, is it so common? they swallow do cum sharing etc… it’s one of my favourite hobbies.
how is anal? wide spread or they just say go to a trans? (i’m interested in anal only with girls of course!)
and photographing, some extra tips or what…
thanks
it
ps i was choosing penthouse too because i would love to see a private lap dance or a podium dance or even a lesbian show, comfortable laying in the bed and looking in the mirror roof a little thai taking care of my best friend…
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Like others have said - the major problem with Penthouse is the "visitors" - the 6 legged ones (that and the possible musty odor and perhaps a bit of mold.) If you are "OK" with Mockva prices, you will be in HEAVEN in Muangthai. (COST - it's a major reason I stopped going to Russia, although I can't get some of the things I particularly like in Thailand, but take the good with the bad...) Secrets is actually a better hotel, but they don't have the multi-mirrored booms and boom-boom chairs etc. If you stay in the "better rooms" (suites, etc) in Penthouse you might have a better room, but try to stay up on the upper floors if you have an outside room or the noise will prevent a lot of sleep (or take ear plugs)
I T ' S L O U D!! with the bars so close (I can't hear you over the noise WHAT DID YOU SAY??)
<smile> just don't go running up the prices for all of us other "poor" folks. Go-go bars have some very appealing talent, but the starfish "problem" is pervasive. Believe it or not, some better performance can be obtained from BEER BAR ladies. and the strassenlaufern are good on beach depending on time of day
Read the info about riding the BAHT BUSES (covered pick-up trucks) to keep your transport costs to a minimum (10B per ride up to Big C and back - each way)
enjoy your trip - I always do.
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Roofgardeninn Hotel
[QUOTE=Canadian Cowboy]I found Airfare from buff for 1050 all in or 1270 all in from Toronto so its not that bad I've planned 2 g's US for my time down there (2weeks). Think I can still make it. I also found a nice hotel [url]www.roofgardeninn.com[/url] was wondering if there anything like this closer to the walk. Buts its a nice place for the price 700baht a nite.
CC[/QUOTE]This is a great place to stay if you don't mind the extra time to get to walking street, etc, about 5 minutes once you get on the baht bus. FYI, this place is (1) girl friendly, bring (2) and there is an extra charge. I stayed there and like being away from the action but still being on the baht bus route.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Like others have said - the major problem with Penthouse is the "visitors" - the 6 legged ones (that and the possible musty odor and perhaps a bit of mold.) If you are "OK" with Mockva prices, you will be in HEAVEN in Muangthai. (COST - it's a major reason I stopped going to Russia, although I can't get some of the things I particularly like in Thailand, but take the good with the bad...) Secrets is actually a better hotel, but they don't have the multi-mirrored booms and boom-boom chairs etc. If you stay in the "better rooms" (suites, etc) in Penthouse you might have a better room, but try to stay up on the upper floors if you have an outside room or the noise will prevent a lot of sleep (or take ear plugs)
I T ' S L O U D!! with the bars so close (I can't hear you over the noise WHAT DID YOU SAY??)
<smile> just don't go running up the prices for all of us other "poor" folks. Go-go bars have some very appealing talent, but the starfish "problem" is pervasive. Believe it or not, some better performance can be obtained from BEER BAR ladies. and the strassenlaufern are good on beach depending on time of day
Read the info about riding the BAHT BUSES (covered pick-up trucks) to keep your transport costs to a minimum (10B per ride up to Big C and back - each way)
enjoy your trip - I always do.[/QUOTE]
Thanks I knew these things I'm just looking how it' in...
BBBJ with CIM of COF, is it so common? They swallow do cum sharing etc… it’s one of my favourite hobbies.
How is Anal? Wide spread or they just say go to a trans? (I’m interested in anal only with girls of course!)
And photographing, some extra tips or what… Lesbian or so.... otherwise why getting nine holees in a room when you have one dick?? :D:D
IT
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[QUOTE=It Travel]Thanks I knew these things I'm just looking how it' in...
BBBJ with CIM of COF, is it so common? They swallow do cum sharing etc… it’s one of my favourite hobbies.
How is Anal? Wide spread or they just say go to a trans? (I’m interested in anal only with girls of course!)
And photographing, some extra tips or what… Lesbian or so.... otherwise why getting nine holees in a room when you have one dick?? :D:D
IT[/QUOTE]
When you have 2 girls, they will change condoms as they switch. So don't expect cum sharing. They might, however, if you give them loads of money.
Anal, some do but most won't (in my experience).
I have no idea what 'holees' (sic) mean. You should give extra for photo session. But respect their wishes, if they object.
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Petemcc's week in Pattaya.
you guys who remember my account of my first trip to pattaya about 20 months ago will remember i made a **** of myself. well, this time i made up formit, i think.
this was all posted on another forum, but i've tried to make it understandable for you guys by editing it, anyway, i hope you enjoy it.
where to start?
travelling is always a bastard and those check-in queues and little things that go wrong and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, together with the huge queues at immigration, make you wonder if it's worth while?
anyway, clearing immigration was a piece of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but what's with the russians and germans? they've taken over bangkok airport i think.
i had booked mr t taxi, and sure enough the driver was there. we travelled in a late model small european type car, which was fine. the driver took me to a small service area about 45 minutes out from the airport where i had breakfast, and then on to pattaya. oh, i had forgotten how completely fucked up and mad road users are here, but we got there in one peace.
we found the rockhouse. i was really surprised on the way in that the whole area was so busy, and alive. it looked as though everything a monger or even tourist could want was in a short stagger.
anyway, i rocked up to the rockhouse where i was met by joy, the daytime cashier. i don't think we got off on a particularly good footing because i didn't realise i had to pay for my stay upfront, plus a deposit, so i had to go and get some cash from the atm, which is a good 2 minutes walk away.
returning, i went to my room, number 3 at the very top of the building. unfortunately it smelt quite fushty, like of stale smoke, but i just wanted to get my head down for a few hours and think about that afterwards. when i threw back the quilt, i realised that it and the sheets had not been changed and smelt of smoke and people, so it was back downstairs to see joy to register my complaint. i think we established that the last guest had only just booked out and the cleaner wouldn't be there until 3pm, so that was sleeping out. so, what do you do when you can't have a kip (well apart from the obvious in pattaya)? yeah, drink, or should i say continue drinking (started before i left home and continued on the plane). so it was me and joy. ting tong joy is what i call her. i've spent 2 days 'with her' during the daytime hours, drinking and buying her drinks, and trying to understand her and the goings on around the place. she is very helpful- offers advice on where to go, got me a sim card and a top-up, and let me sit there and drink [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and tallk shit. anyway, after about 12 drinks (this is between 1030 and 1430 so i am not an alcoholic) i decided i'd better go for a wander to see what is around the place, and the answer is everything. there's enough bars on the metro alone for a bar crawl, places to eat galore (bob's bbq and grill is next door), and even a gogo (champagne) about 20 metres away.
by the time i returned from my wanderings, around 1600, the girls were showing up, as did the cleaner, or is she a girl and the stand-by cleaner? i think that is it, is it da? i think if she stands in for either a cashier or cleaner. on day 2 i actually joked with her that i could take her lt and she could clean my room when she got up, and i think she agreed, anyway, we'll see. the girls are all cuties, and so is the boy (later).
i am not sure what transpired next, but around about 7pm joy asked me to bf her, but only for st, and it was for a silly amount of money. apparently she wanted to go to a disco afterwards with her friends. don't get me wrong, joy does it for me, ting tong or not, and i have no doubt whatsoever that i will end up bf'g her before i go, but on my terms!
i think that night i had been buying most of the girls a drink, or 2. i seemed to be an easy target, big heart, or just a sucker for a pretty face, whatever, but this continued into day 2 and has to stop. i have 3 beers and end up 700-1000? out of pocket! maybe it's an investment, we'll see.
anyway, i realised that i was missing the curry downstairs, and fortunately by the time i got down there was some left, and bloody good it was too-chicken madras. incidentelly, i had one on day 2 from an indian round the corner (details will be elsewhere) and it was shite, and nowhere near the standard of bigleg's.
i met the owner, alex, and a few other distinguished board members like kolobos, jack burton, casper, bigleg, and lots more, but i was just too pissed to remember.
anyway, joy was all over me like a rash now, but in a way showing her displeasure at me. to be honest though, although joy looks like she could be high maintenance, you'd have to lt her to do her justice.
out of the blue another cutie comes and sits beside me, again names are not my forte. she asked me for a drink, to which i obliged and then asked me to bf her. even in drunk mode, my decision was made in about a nanosecond. i may post pics of joy and her here, but i will ask for approval first from management as this is a relatively unsecure forum-but they are fully clothed pics. so more drinks, and then upstairs with cutie. unfortunately though i was too fucked to perform. the signals that go from your head to your penis got drowned somewhere en route, so although i did my best to do things to cutie (and she didn't like daty), i ended up just cuddling up and going to sleep-which was nice. morning time though, the signal got through and i felt like a man again, but unfortunately after pop no 1, cutie went for a shower and got dressed. i was too fucked to argue, and probably, definitely legally still intoxicated, sio i said whatever, paid her and said goodbye. i returned to bed and dozed for a few hours before starting it all again-day 2 to follow later.
i know there's not much exciting here so far, but maybe just a newbie hint. be careful buying these cute little things drinks, it really does mount up. still, it's forr as good cause.
cheers
wtf? i can't remember much about day 2 apart from drinking with ting tong joy most of the day. i am sure i did more than just that, in fact i know i went somewhere else, i just can't remember!
what i do remember though is getting to shooters. i know that stuff has already been written about that night, but here's my take.
first of all, for a septic, brucemangostein is a top bloke, mind you so is jack burton, and the others i have met. this was a good opportunity to meet other bms especially the ones i had forgotten from the previous day.
shooters has some top women working there, half of whom have some sort of attraction to casper, but each to their own i suppose. to cut a long story short, i decided to bf one of casper's ex conquests, cute thing that she was, but then i was faced with a problem, or not. there was this really fucken filthy looking one, probably only a 5/10, but she kept smiling at me and i kept thinking about screwing her arse off. when i bfd the cute one, she looked so disappointed. i discussed this briefly with the guys around the table, and can i tell you all, ask these guys a question and you'll get the answer you want. i think kolobos suggested i barfine them both, what a stroke of genius, and the rest of the lads agreed. i thought about it for nanoseconds and bfd the slutty one. actually, that's most unfair because she was a really, really nice girl.
so off i went, pleaseed as punch with my choice, to he cherry bar, where there was an australia day do. i met adam (hammer), but to be honest i didn't really enjoy myself there. whether that was because i got there too late or the fact that i was with 2 girls whom i desperately wanted to fuck, is the question.
so, anyway, back to loom, where they double teamed me, big style. the little one sat on my face, and the slutty one jumped on me bareback. wtf? but with a face full of sweet flange i wasn't ereally in a position to object too much-yeah, i know, fucken idiot. at half time they changed and cute girl rubbered me up. basically, i fucked and sucked for as long as i could, with these two girls all over me like a rash-good.
i couldn't sleep much because i kept turning round and groping one of them and getting a raging hard on, but i did get some sleep.
in the morning, or whatever it was, i was using a lubed finger on the cute one and she was in no way objecting, so i boned her, well and truely. later we went or a thai breakfast. i promised cute one that i'd be back for her tonight, because she was a seriously good gfe, but unfortunately that wasn't to happen as day three will reveal.
for the newbies or future visitors- i am conducting an experiment. last time i was here i was a thin hansum man with dyed black hair. now i am a fat, grey hansom man. you know, it doesn't matter a fuck, as day 3 and 4 will reveal-well day 4 is now, only half way through and i bf'd and st'd a 25/10, in tq, and i am going out again. wish me luck
well, day 3 i awoke and took the two bfs for breakfast-thai style, the old soup and chicken and rice. 3 meals and a few soft drinks for 105b, not bad at all. what happened next? oh yeah, it's sunday, i went back to the rh and a few of the bms were there, and the plan was to go for breakfast/lunch. now i know i had only just had breakfast but some time is missing somewhere, and quite a few hundred b, so i assume it went missing in the bottom of chang bottles, probably talking with ting tong joy again.
anyway, we had the sunday carvery at robin's nest, just around the corner. this is a really good place to eat, and i have been there a few times since. the carvery is something like 195b all you can eat for one course, and a few b more for more courses. for about au$8, fantastic value.
then it was back to the rh and i defenitely remember drinking with ting tong, and a few of the other grls who turned up around 1600. now, i had made plans to go to the secrets board meeting at 1800, so after finishing at the rh, i searched out secrets.
first, my take on secrets: it doesn't do it for me at all. it's like a gogo/beer bar hybrid while being neither. i mean it's a nice enough place, brand new, very, very attentive staff, some absolute stunner service girls, but as a first timer it just didn't do much for me.
anyway, the bm was shite. the boardies there were all old guys whom i had never heard off, but fortunately i got talking to a few sepos, who were good lads, and i had about 10 beers with them, before heading to my next port of call, nld1.
this was my first gogo this trip, and the sight of the naked girls on stage was welcoming. very soon i had spotted a cutie and ushered her across for drink. as we drank and i sussed her out, i realised that she was freezing, almost shivering. i asked her if she could put a top on, and she said only when bfd. well, she was a stunner and did it for me, so i thought wtf not and bfd her, 600 bucks i think. i asked if she did lt nd she said yeah, and price was up to me. great!
i should have realised when she insisted on getting m/c taxis rather than the bhat bus that perhaps she was a bit up herself, and sure enough when we got back to loom, she said she would only stay st and wanted 1500. what happened to ' up to you'? well, i wasn't in the mood for an arguement so i showed her the door.
oh dear, poor me, what could i do? easy, walk downstairs and speak to the rh girls. two of the older ones (not particularly good looking from memory, even with beer goggles), latched onto me, so that was it, another double bf. now, the thing about older girls is that they are a hell of a lot better in the sack, and i had a good night. objectively, money better spent on 2x 3/400 bf and 2 x 1000 lt than some gogo. i am rapidly realising that pattaya is chockers with beautiful women. i know some may say why pick a 6/10 when there's plenty of 9's or 10's (look up the apostrophe use there! ), but shagged one stunner, shagged them all. i am ceasing to be amazed at their bodies that i could just stare at all night, and realise that attitude and performance is as important.
so that was day 3. not that eventful really, but i am learning things, and at the end of my trs i will try to provide newbies and the unaware of some useful hints, like bringing decent fucken condoms.
incidentally, a friend of mine in macau supplies proper american durex condoms to hotels in pattaya and he does mail order for virtually nothing. i am just waiting for his permission to post details.
ok, day 4 to follow.
day 4, monday, i had arranged to meet my mate mike, aka wildoates. he promised to take me on a daytime tour of gogos, followed by an evening time one. well, i wasn't disappointed. i mentioned somewhere that we started at tq2 on beech road. now, for the newbies, if you want to spend an afternoon sipping a few coldies in the air con with some stunning girls dancing in front of you, then this is the place to go. i was only there 10 minutes when this girl walked on stage. i said to my mate words to the effect that there isn't anything i wouldn't do to her. she was just absofuckenlutely drop dead gorgeous, to my tastes. now gents we have a problem. on a scale of 0-10, some of these girls are off the scale. i think we need a new scale for those girls who have already reached 10, and have to start on a new scale, where 0 is absolute perfection and 10 is instant brain haemorage and cardiac failure, caused by the raised blood pressure from instantly ejeculating all seminal fluids at once, and the consequent crash of blood pressure from fluid loss, leading to shock, which if the stroke and thromby didn't see you off, it would. now mine was a 5. she was on that part of the scale where she could have quoted 10000b just to eat last night's evening meal from her knickers. fortunately she only wanted 1500 st. yeah ok, i'm not into st, and not into 1500 for st, but it was a possible bargin compared to eating last night's digested noodles.
i discovered tq2 has st rooms out the back, 300 loom, 600 girl, so off i went. because i was relatively sober, i utilised a durex performax, which a friend had supplied me-this is the condom supplier who'se business will be posted tomorrow. if you have a bit of a hair trigger with 5/10's on the gogo scale, these are well worth it, actually they cost fuck all. so i had my 34 seconds of fun. naah, a bit longer than that. anyway she rocked my boat. i asked what time she finished and it wasn't until 2000, but i asked if she did lt. she said she couldn't because her mother was up for a week. whether or not this is true i don't know, maybe, maybe not, but unless she didn't want the cash because i was an old fat fucker, then it must be true. anyway, call me an ldop, or just a man with no change, but she got 2k for her short time. after the deed i probably could have sat with her all day, groping her and just holding her, but it was getting too frustrating. my dick was like concrete and i was worried that i would have to bf her gain just to get of it. having said that, there were plenty more stunners there on the gogo scale above 3-4.
so, we left, and my mate dropped me back at the rh where i had a few more drinks and he dropped his bike home and got the bb down.
when he came back we hit kiss, an open air eatery on second road, opposite mike's mall. it's just round the corner from the rh. i've eaten there a few times, good, cheap food, thai and the rest. now, it was still early for the gogos, so we hit shooters so i could see if i could hook up with cute girl from whatever fucken night it was. i couldn't find her, but the other one, the one who looked like a **** was there and was all over me like shingles. in hindsight, she was not a great looking girl, and probably got fuck all barfines, which is why she fucked my brains out, but she was a nice human being, so wtf, i bought her a good few drinks. i noticed this real cutie, and she came across to sit with me. she spoke fuck all english, but her skin was just so soft it was like silk. being the kind of guy i am and what i do, i checked out the rest of her body. she had the nicest little arse i had felt all trip, and that's saying much, nice little tits (don't they all), but her palms were shocking, like she's been mixing lime with them, and she had a few scars on her left forearm. they looked to me like self harm marks at first, but with my limited thai, and her limited english, and a bit of help, we established they were from an accident. still not convinced, but whatever, she did nothing tyo indicate she was ting tong.
unfortunately we had to leave to hit the gogos. we went to catz, anglewitch, and another new one, which has been spoken about on the forums, but i can't remember its name. all 3 producd the goods, though anglewitch is fucken expensive. in the other two, i had my fingers up some cute girl's cludgie, which was nice.
in all honesty i could have bfd all but one of the gogos who sat with me, and the last one from anglewitch, although not my type looks wise and therefore not bfable, was a sweet girl with good english, however i had spent a small fortune that day and wanted cutie from shooters. my mate though bfd this gorgeous little thing-lucky bastard. so back to shooters, i walked in and pointed to her and told her she was barfined. she looked at me like wtf, and i said i drink with you today. she looked vague but agreed. then as she came across to me she said ' what about her? ' then a girl turned her head around. wtf, it was the wrong one, her sister as it turned out. wtf again, they both came with me. they agreed that they would be ok together. so, back to rh, drinks, and to loom. sister (mistake one) decided she didn't want to do it, but she didn't want to leave big sister (yeah older) who didn't speak english, as she was scared and started crying. i assured her i would take care of sista, so younger sista fucked off. i actually gave her a few hundred b (soft ****).
anyway, sista was good. inexperienced, and a little scared, but uncle ds took care of her. we had brekkie the following morning and i gave her the mc fare home. nice girl.
so endeth day 4, day 5, the darkside crawl to follow.
cheers
ds
well, my day 5 was also the same day as the darkside crawl. the darkside of pattaya, as it is called is the area on the on the other side of sukhumvit, where many ex-pats live. it has a number of good little bars and 20 odd of us went on a tour round there. a highlight was the black pearl 2 where we all chipped in 100 baht for the girls to skinny dip in the swimming pool. another brave crawler and i joined them for a bit of good clean fun!
we did a a few bars, including the butterfly bar, which i think is by the siam country club. they have st rooms there for 300 including the bf, so i utilised it!
another good pub is dao's bar and cafe. some very, very pretty girls there. we finished off at noi's bar, owned by one of the members. we had started off there and this cutie called bia was all over me when i came in, so when we went back there for a curry and more drinks, the first thing i did was bf her.
unfortuntely when i got her back, the cutie fell into an instant sleep, snoring and the works, so in the morning she had to be punished, and she took it lake a seasoned pro!
anyway, day 6.
well, it started too early! i'd just managed to wake bia up from her deep slumber and i porked her twice. i knew that she had to start work at 1500, so when i looked at my watch and it showed 1340, i thought i'd better tell her. after she fucked off i went for breakfast at robin's nest, well, not breakfast, lunch, i thought, then back to the rh. i sat outside with ting tong again and after about 5 beers i decided to go and sit by the rh computer to check out pl. it was then i looked at the clock. wtf 1320! i realised then that my watch had dual times on it and i had been referring to darwin time, 2. 5 hours ahead, oops, poor bia could have had another 1000zzzzs.
anyway, with sfa else to do, i got torn into the beers at the rh. when the girls turned up, i put it to dah that she was for tonight, o for the next night and ting tong for my last night of fun. it was then that dah told me she only does st. wtf? she said she already explained that she can't sleep. mmmmm let me see, unless the bia disease is catching, they're not being paid to sleep, or is it just me? anyway, that's her off my xmas card list.
well i continued drinking and buying lds, and decided that i needed a change of scenery, where better that that shite pub kolobos runs. the m/c taxi from the metro to there was a negotiated 60 b, which is fair enough.
when i got there, the man himself was there with a few of the other guys from the previous day, and some others. it was a good social get together with plenty of bell ringing. bia smiled at me quite often, as did her sister best, but over in the far corner, sitting by herself, i saw this sweet young thing. i beckoned her over. she was wearing a very mini skirt and sexy top. her thighs looked a bit chunky, but that was comparing them with other thai girls, most of whom are pretty skinny, and she obviously had youth on her side.
i'll not bore you with details, but here is a summary:
she was really shy and over the hour or so i sat with her, she gave away very little. i remarked to kolobos that i had picked another dud, and he reminded me of the old addage about the timid ones going off. anyway, pawn i think her name was, and i was later to establish that she was fresh off the issan bus last week (no mobile phone yet! ). i treated her gently and nicely, tried to ehgage conversation, and gave her a few pecks and cuddles. kolobos gave me a t-shirt advertising some shite bar, and because she was freezing, i gave it to her to put on. what a nice guy i am.
anyway, by the end of the night she was french kissing me, and very good she was too. i had a feeling this was going to be a goodie, so bf, and back to the rh.
now it isn't my style to talk about avery thrust and orgasm, and i won't do that, but i can tell you that pawn was sensational. i was pretty knackered, and after the shower and photos, including topless, we headed to bed. i actually didn't mind if we were to have a sleep, but this 21 year old horn bag had different ideas. wow, i thought, i'll just pop a kamagra gel and see how we go, well we fucken went. i'm not particularly into bjs, but i was using those durex performax, because they were a better fit, and on my second pronging i was finding it hard to cum. so she wips off the condom, and does a pretty good (i think) bbbjcim-nic girl.
cut to the morning, another 3 x session with this cutie. she kept saying her skin was chocolate and mine was white, and didn't understand why i was gazing at her in awe, touching and feeling her and kissing. she didn't get the concept that falang love lbfms. she was a real gfe, and it was hard finishing with her, especially when she told me about it being her seventh day in a bar, i was her first falang, and she didn't like working in a bar, mostly because some falang are ting tong. i did feel really sorry for her, as i do think she is one of those genuine ones. surprisingly, she can read english, but can talk fewer words than i can thai, so what else can a cute-she's not really what you'd call pretty, maybe a solid 5, issan girl who doesn't speak english do?
i have to say lads, and don't call me a ldop-well, you can't because this is flame free, but i explained to her that bg gets 1k lt. i gave her 2k, because to be honest, she was fucken outstanding, and was passionately kissing me all morning. i took her for brunch and bunged her the m/c fare as well and she asked me to come and see her tonight, but i don't know if that is a good idea. i'll try and post her pic here so you guys will know her.
today's report will be a bit different because i'm not going to go through the mundane of my daily life, but in the evening i went to the buffalo bar with wildoates. there were quite a few decent women there, but personally, for my taste, nothing special. wildoates knew the mamasan sandy, who tried to pair me up with a 2 girls. they were nice enough, but didn't do much for me, although the second one seemed nice. anyway, this little **** dancer comes along. way under 5 feet tall, little slutty denim shorts and a little top, and she danced round the pole like she could extract blood from a stone. she was obviously fairly up herself, and ting tong as fuck, but she looked like she may be an awesome fuck-wrong!
because she was a dancer, i had to wait until after 2230 to bf her for only 500 baht! i negotiated with her for lt nad was assured that the 2k she wanted was standard for coyote-type dancers. i felt a bit of a **** because the second girl who had been palmed off on me, although not a looker, seemed really nice, a taller girl, built like a falang, but with no extra padding. anyway little ****, puy i think her name was (you'll recognise her right away at buffalo from my description), comes back to the rh with me, drinkie, and up to loom. i don't normally go through my sexual exploits, but i think as a warning to others about this ****, i should.
loom, shower, then she hungry. wtf? she could have said that before. delaying tactic? anyway, i had a bowl noodle which i gave her and she seemed to enjoy. then it came down to bedroom antics. she had a perfectly proportioned small body, and as you would expect from a dancer, she was tight all over.
as we lay down and i tried to do the exploring thing, she grabbed my dick and started jerking me off. over the next few minutes i had to continually pull her hand away, telling her i wasn't after a wank, i could do that myself, better. i said dick is for mouth or pussy. she said ok mouth. (warning signals- wanking and offering bbbj rather than penetration? ). she started the bbbj. now i am not a particular fan of bjs, to me a ****, even through a condom, feels better. anyway, she wasn't that good, so i gave her some daty and told her i'd show her how to do it properly. she said i couldn't make her come, it would take too long, whatever, so i grabbed a condom, turned her round and stuck it in doggy. now, i'm not a rough bastard, and my dick is probably on the lower side of medium, but she started moaning like fuck that it hurt, i was too big. i told her my dick wasn't, and she said it was for her. now, i know a fair bit about vaginas, and it wasn't like i was bagning of her cervix or anything, she was dilated and things fitted well.
i turned her onto her front so it wouldn't be as deep, just to show i wanted to help, but still she moaned. ah well, fuck that, i was going to finish. i then made her sit on top of me, hoping that she could control the depth that way- you see, i care, a bit.
anyway, just before i shot, she seemed to orgasm. i couldn't tell if it was real or fake, but i'm really not in any event. it was clear this was already a big waste of money and a bad idea. i pop, she puts towel around herself and stands in front of the mirror, looking at her eye make up. the following conversation takes place.
her: you hab alarm clock
me: yeah, why?
her: you set for 5, i go at 6
me: why, we agreed to longtime
her: that is long time
me: it fucken isn't
her: i have to go to school at 8
me: well you should have thought of that before you said go long time
her: i always leave at 6 in buffalo bar longtime
me: that's isn't the rule, don't take me for an idiot, i've been around long enough to know
her: how long is long time then
me: until at least 9, you know that, and you knew when you said long time it wouldn't be 6, rules in pattaya are longer than that.
( she was getting decidedly stroppy now)
her: so what you want me to do, fuck you all night?
me: i'm not paying you to fucken sleep. you play in bar like you like to fuck men, all you want to do is wank them off, not even fuck. this is like a business transaction, understand, you are breaking the contract.
her: ok, maybe my fault, i no tell you i hab to go at 6
me: yeah, your fault, if i'd wanted short time i'd have asked for it. that other girl, i could have had her long time, she was a nice girl, she loses out because of you.
her: you go back to buffalo then and take her, you want me to go?
me: no point in you staying is there, your attitude stinks, you don't want to fuck.
her: ok then you give me 1500 short time and i go
me: fuck off, 20 minutes you want 1500, no way
her: ok, you give me half long time, i leave, and you go tell bar.
me: ok, take 1000 and go.
so she does, and she storms off, well fuck her- one to watch. if i get around to going to the bar again i will tell mamasan, but it's my last night and frankly couldn't be asrsed venturing out, waiting for mamasan and telling her. if i had a few more days here i would though.
so what is a man at the rh to do with no girl at his side? a no brainer really, go downstairs. now, o was there. i had promised to bar fine her for the past 3 nights and always found someone else, even tonight when i had promised her earlier. i felt like a twat, but she had a fair few drinks out of me, and accepted it. i mean, it's not as if she actually wanted to fuck me, i know that, i look at myself inn the mirror often enough. i know it's just the bf and the cash. well she is still there. i don't understand why she doesn't get bfd more often, she is relatively tall, slim, 21, pretty- not on the stunner scale, but the type of girl you would take anywhere with you and feel fucken proud, and she is nice to boot. she also has an exquisite arse.
i spent some time and some lds with her and little nok from my first night. i know i gave her a bad rating, but now i realise the wee thing is only 18 and her family basically told her to go and be a bar girl because they have no money, that maybe i was a bit harsh. if what she told me is true, it's fucken wrong, that sort of thing should be an individual's choice.
anyway, barfined o, and she was pleased as fuck. it was about 2330 when we started drinking there and then about 0130, someone rang the bell. this was to happen a few more times, i think island billy being responsible for a few times. well, come 3 am i was too stuffed to drink anymore, so we went loom.
now, i seem to have a bad cough, probably as a result of you smokers. back home i avoid smoke totally, my body being a temple and all that. i already told o that i wasn't interested in boom boom right away, just cuddle and sleep, boom boom morning, so the usual routine, shower etc, take her towel off, explore her lovely body, etc. btw, the skin on her face is like a baby's, so smooth.
she's cuddling me when suddenly i start a massive coughing fit, one of thhose where you cough so hard you have to be sick, so i rushed to the toilet and threw up a small amount of liquid-just my stomach's cursory attempt at vomiting. it knows beer is too important to regurgitate. o comes into the bathroom with me doubled over the shitter and comforts me, bringing me a glass of water.
back to bed, more cuddles, but i feel restless and my stomach is now very acidy, so i let her turn round and sleep without me fidgiting.
morning time we do the biz. she seemed to either love or hate daty because she was squirming all over and was really wet, so condom on, and a nice tight sensual fuck.
just after that she got showered and dressed. i asked her why she go, she said i need some sleep as i am sick, and right enough i had a bit of a temperature. must be coming down with something, so she left at 9.
some may ask, what's the difference between the coyote leaving early and her? well, for me, 9 is an ok time, even though she probably would have spent less time with me. i know if i had insisted that she stayed that she would have, but what was the point, i was going to sleep and she probably didn't want to, with a hot, sweaty man who coughs every 30 seconds. but also attitude. she cared, and finally, she said she come back loom tonight! now what that means i do not know, does she expect a bf again?
it's going to be a big night, and i suspect any bf will just experience a fat, snoring whale, so we'll see.
i think ting tong joy is going to bangkok with me tomorrow. i think she has negotiated with the real boss for a 2 day bf, we'll see.
anyway peeps, it's my last night in pattaya tonight. i have blown my budget big style, which i'll have to hide from the missus for the next few weeks of the holiday, but i've had a fucken ball, with only a few downs, notably, not from beer bars!
advice to newbies. gogos and coyotes are eye candy, but not really worth the money. i have only visited a few beer bars but there are many thousands with many very, very pretty girls. the best all round experiences i have had this trip have been with bar garls. good attitude, nice girls, couldn't ask for a lot more.
i may report on my last night from singapore on sunday, as hopefully tomorrow in bangkok i'll be giving ting tong a lesson in attitude evaluation! no seriously, i hope to have a good time with her.
pics to follow in next few days.
petemcc
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I laughed so hard
Petemcc, very possibly the funniest report i have ever read, hope you and ting tong joy have fun in BKK.
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Petemcc's week in Pattaya
Good read.
Can you tell me where Shooters is?
Name rings a bell but cannot think of where it is.
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Petemcc's week in Pattaya
Wow What a report! Funny or what?
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Good read.
Can you tell me where Shooters is?
Name rings a bell but cannot think of where it is.[/QUOTE]
Was "Lennies" situated in Soi Diamond off Walking Street,
has a realy good range of local & imported beers
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Rain in May
Gentlemen,
Can you give me any idea what the rain situation is usually like say at mid to late May? Is that a time of the year it usually rains all day hard or just a passing quick shower? Do the sois usually get flooded at that time of year?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]...
3)Only read posts by Giotto and his pals.[/QUOTE]Terry Terrier,
LOL. Peace!
Petemcc's report is an excellent and funny read - and if you had not linked it to the reports of distinction I had done that today :).
Petemcc, thanks, great report!
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Lemon, good advice:
1) Improve your English.
2)Improve your colloquial English.
3)Only read posts by Giotto and his pals.[/QUOTE]
I agree!
Fuck is a remarkable word. There was actually an article in New Scientist last month about swearing and how useful it is etc, and one thing it posted out was the word fuck being used to create new words, like infuckingcredible!
Sorry mate if my writing style is hard to understand, but it's the way I do it.
I do however hope you got something from it.
Cheers
Pete
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Improve my colloquial English
Well, it seems to be hard for me to improve my colloquial English. The only one, who could do it, is already dead since 1994.
Herr Heinrich Karl Bukowski, for “ fucking intellectual English readers “ better known as Mr. Charles Bukowski wrote nearly in the same style. Nearly.
So who could teach me? The author of the report? Hard to believe that. If I internalise his drinking habits, I would have forgotten the next day, what “fucken words” he taught me.
Or otherwise I confound all the things, drink that kamagra gel out of the decent fucken American Durex Performax condoms, get a stiff neck and wonder the next day, that this fucked my brain out and I understood only ting tong.
Well, Mr. Petemcc, to each his own.
I only wrote, that it was hard for me to understand this text. And I hope I can survive, if I don’t try to improve my colloquial English.
But of course I will read your interesting reports in the future again. Hope it will become easier and better for me every time.
All the best for you
Lemon Tree
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Mamasan
[QUOTE=Duniawala]When you have 2 girls, they will change condoms as they switch. So don't expect cum sharing. They might, however, if you give them loads of money.
Anal, some do but most won't (in my experience).
I have no idea what 'holees' (sic) mean. You should give extra for photo session. But respect their wishes, if they object.[/QUOTE]
So I think that I have to ask clearly the mamasan for what I want... At least BBBJ and CIM or COF....
Sorry I wrote wrong I was meaning nine holes... three girls = nine holes! I have to "travel" some before deciding where to cum! (usualli in mouth, because it's withouth condom! I hate to cum in condoms!)...
IT
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Thanks to you too
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I have never had two girls in Thailand at the same time so I can't speak on cum sharing. As far as pros, I have never had a problem with BBBJ or COF. Never tried CIM. Any time I have asked a pro about anal they always tell me to go get lady boy for that. I have also never done anal with a Thai non-pro. I have never been asked for an extra tip for fotos...and the non-pros that I know don't mind as well![/QUOTE]
On ground I'm an anal enthusuast and an enthusuast of having several girls... I think I'll have to firnd (as written) the right mamasan!
the pity is that LBFM are perfect bodied fore heavy anal fucking... with a small group COF...
I'm tinhinking on three girls on ground I want to see a real nice and heavy lesbian action on a bed, naturally I'll get rock hard and I nide a cutie who "speaks" to my best friend while I'm so excited...
IT
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Thanks and more info...
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Like others have said - the major problem with Penthouse is the "visitors" - the 6 legged ones (that and the possible musty odor and perhaps a bit of mold.) If you are "OK" with Mockva prices, you will be in HEAVEN in Muangthai. (COST - it's a major reason I stopped going to Russia, although I can't get some of the things I particularly like in Thailand, but take the good with the bad...) Secrets is actually a better hotel, but they don't have the multi-mirrored booms and boom-boom chairs etc. If you stay in the "better rooms" (suites, etc) in Penthouse you might have a better room, but try to stay up on the upper floors if you have an outside room or the noise will prevent a lot of sleep (or take ear plugs)
I T ' S L O U D!! with the bars so close (I can't hear you over the noise WHAT DID YOU SAY??)
<smile> just don't go running up the prices for all of us other "poor" folks. Go-go bars have some very appealing talent, but the starfish "problem" is pervasive. Believe it or not, some better performance can be obtained from BEER BAR ladies. and the strassenlaufern are good on beach depending on time of day
Read the info about riding the BAHT BUSES (covered pick-up trucks) to keep your transport costs to a minimum (10B per ride up to Big C and back - each way)
enjoy your trip - I always do.[/QUOTE]
I understand your Russia problem, so I switched over to Kiev... generally 50% less and I still found thos white teen blondinkas i love! :D
Coming to LBFM (little Brown Fucking Machines), whats really LT... most of my fucking is done (with my blondinkas) between 7 and 12 am... so??
I feel that anal si not so wide spread and a nice anal fuck ending with a good BBBJ + CIM or COF is still the best sex i know! I think I have to contact mamasan for avaliable ladies...?
IT
PS I red in some correspondence or somewhere there is a bar where the girls soing anal are on a side the "normal" ones on another... is it still true?
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]Cheers mate, Pete[/QUOTE]Yap, must say; it was fucking great - in all aspects :-)
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Lemon Tree,
For what it is worth I am a native English speaker and even I had some trouble stumbling over a few of Petemcc's prose. Aussie "English" is like that sometimes.
Don't let it bother you.
Petemcc,
I enjoyed your report even with the LB part. Everybody has their thing and it was all part of your trip. Honest reporting to say the least.
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Sorry chaps. Having read my report I can see it was full of typos and there are a few omissions, and as it was written for a different forum, it may seem a bit confusing, so sorry for those who found it hard going.
Pete
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rain
[QUOTE=Monopoly]Gentlemen,
Can you give me any idea what the rain situation is usually like say at mid to late May? Is that a time of the year it usually rains all day hard or just a passing quick shower? Do the sois usually get flooded at that time of year?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Mono,
May is not the wettest month I was in bangkok in mid may last yr for a week ,it only rain 2 days at night but it was hot during the day july to oct is the wettest month , may is a slow month with cheap hotel rate and many girl to pick from the bar .
Fast eddie 48
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Have a few questions for 1st time visit to LOS
Hi Gentlemen,
I will be travelling to LOS for the 1st time. I am staying 4 weeks, travelling everywhere.
I will spend some time in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket. I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Some of my questions may sound silly...
1) GENERAL QUESTION: where can one find the hottest & best-looking working Thai girls at reasonable prices? BKK, Pattaya, Samui or Phuket?
2. GENERAL QUESTION: where is the best places to get these girls? go-go bars, massage parlors or freelancers on the street? (could you name some actual places and locations that are sure-shots)
3. SPECIFIC QUESTIONS: would you mind telling me which are your top 5 hotels to stay at in terms of price, comfort and girl-friendliness?; where even the staff is available for ST/LT...? (for Pattaya, Phuket and BKK)
I am just trying to get myself veered in the right direction. I want to be as efficient as possible.
Also, I have a fetish for nylons, pantyhose and uniforms (schoolgirl, air stewardess, nurse, maid, etc...). I am aware that there are supposedly bars that cater to these types of places. Would you know of any in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket?
Thank you so much, and I await your answers with impatience.
M2
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Pattaya 2008 - for sex tourist
[b][u]Pattaya 2008 - Confidential! (for sex-tourist only)[/u][/b]
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Contents of this report:
- Travel from Khorat
- Pattaya gogobars
- Pattaya soapie
- general
- Pattaya "aids" business
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1. Bus from Khorat
VIP Buses from Khorat's new bus station to Pattaya run at 10.30, 12, 12.30. Five hours trip, 310B. Arriving at 11.30 bought the ticket first then went to eat something. Giving it sufficient time, returned at 10 past 12, just to see one bus pulling out. I figured it's the 12 o'clock one. But asked the attendant anyway. He got excited and says it's actually my bus, the 12.30 service. Once full, the bus leaves. I waved my ticket, asking so where is my seat? They stopped the bus, moved one kid to sit in grandma's lap and I got the seat. The kid was like a monkey, trying to jump all over the place during most of the trip.
Huge head, like a watermelon, kind of retarded face. Drooling saliva and sometimes vomiting. When not jumping then taking half of my seat. That 5 hours passed very slowly this time. But the 2 movies they screened were okay. This bus arrives in Pattaya at Chalermprakiat street, near Pattaya Klang.
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2. Pattaya - first day
*** Sausage-show ***
People watching is totally great! Huge fun and entertaining. Like a big monkey show all day. But this is a pathetic town, not quite as rotten as Bangkok but still comes second worst in Thailand. Sex-wise too. About as hard to get laid as in Afganistan. Because of the religion of course. The official religion of Pattaya is "Woman-Worship". Who ever does not comply is in trouble and does not fuck easily. Luckily I did bring Rubber Ruby my "pinkey artificial rubber vagina" and had some great sessions in the toilets of gogo bars after the naked dancing shows. The fuck was free as I actually own this vagina. I bought it for 30 Euros in Amsterdam 5 years ago. If you want free root, this is recommended.
The first day I wandered around but could not sex any woman. Totally hopeless. But the sex-shows were quite good as mentioned. Lots of spa and bath-tub foam, shower shows, pussy eating, beer-bottle fucking, like it was in Bangkok 10 years ago. First time in my life I actually saw a real "sausage show"! Everyone should see one! Shame that the girl doing it was very ugly.
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*** Jewellery show ***
In one night I kissed with 2 naked women (20&22yo). Quite good looking too. One had small tits and the other one big. Tipped them 20B each (60cents) each. I nearly paid barfine for one. But luckily thought about it first: 600B bar, 1500girl ST, 400 room, 200 drinks. Total 2700B ($80). The women were okay but the amount not sexy at all. So I quickly left. But had a good grope of their tits first. Great firm flesh. Not stinky at all.
I tried soi Yoksad (soi6) the short-time street too. Old woman walking around, trying to sell cheap jewellery. I bought one for a hooker girl for 30B. She says "thankyoo". We go inside bar. Then I say "Me nowanna drink but only wanna fuck". She says: 1000B. I tried to reason that usually the price is 500B around here but no avail. Plus I have good heart because bought that rotten plastic earring for her already. No use, no discount. She no good heart, I could feel. So I left and cried. How evil they can be to poor, retarded, disadvantaged farang.
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*** Dog show ***
Tried another at the beach. Everything is back to normal, lots of hookers all the way. This quite pretty one was feeding a dog. I said "How nice dog. Wanna root?" She asks the dog "wanna root?". I say not the dog but her. She says she not wanna. So I walked on and sobbed in my tissues again. How rude them hookers around here.
At all the beerbars on soi 7 and 8 only the uglies enquired "where you come from?" All beauties pulled away. One said to the others: "Look the idiot is here again. The one that wanked at the bar last time. Let's run!" They all laughed and I just wept, huge teardrops pouring down my hairy belly. Yes, people here are evil and discriminating against us. I will leave this town.
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3./ Pattaya - second day
As last resort, I tried the well proven Ab Op Nuod (Soapie), in North Pattaya. (If you want to know more about "Ab Op Nuod" there is a detailed description at Bangkok/Massage Parlors, posted Jan9, 2008. It tells all about the service and details.)
*** Hot chillie show ***
The had lots of young beauties indeed. I choose a real young and hot looking one, just 19 or 20 years. Possibly youngest in whole Pattaya nowadays. My girl vearing some simple blue dress, very friendly and smiley. Braces on teeth like a schoolgirl. Very sexy, good smelling, fresh and keen to serve. The usual soapie treatment, except that I still had the broken dick (as explained in Laos posting). She wondered how we gonna do the bathing. No problems, I poured the remains of the Som Tam papaya salad in the garbage, pulling the plastic bag over my broken willy. Fastening with a rubber band. He was happily floating on the water's surface while we playing with the young cat in the bath tube. Because of the dick she did not do the body-rub this time so we just moved on to the large bed. Me experiencing some strange sensation.
*** Pleasure and pain show ***
Occuring to me that maybe should have washed out that bag properly. As the salad was a rather spicey variety, about 6 or 7 chillies in it. Ouch, ouch, I was running back to the water, attempting to cool it down. Rather hopelessly. I was in pain while she sucking my tool through the rubber. But there is a very fine line between pleasure and pain so in fact my poor spiced sausage got extremely aroused and ready for some real action. The fuck that followed was totally awesome from my side, with 6 chilly power level. She screamed rather authentically but I could sense the theatrical play. Nevertheless the girl was extremely fresh, pretty, slim and beautiful. Compared to the gogobar prices (as above) she was a real bargain for 1600B ($50).
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Pattaya last day
*** The "aids" show ***
Tried to quickly get out of this evil town. Sex is difficult here and they don't respect people. Ready packed to go when some farang men said that they were raising funds for the Pattaya "aids-orphan" children. Do I want to contribute. I know these people and know that they are genuine, they send the monies where it is supposed to go. But still, there is no "aids". It is a commercial hoax and nothing else.
*** The "do-good" show ***
So, I enquired to them : excuse me but what is this about the "aids-orphans"? They could not explain. Just kept repeating: "you know, aids kills, blablabla". So, I of course did not give. It would just go to the doctors and poison "medicines" anyway. I my humble opinion this world is seriously fucked. No-one knows nothing. But believes everything they hear. "Aids" is the business of the charitable people too. They want to have it so they can do "good". That's why it won't go away. Everyone wants it. Some want the money. Others want the "good feeling". It is a perfect business, pleasing everyone. Only those "aids-orphans" are poor, the do-gooders and doctors killing them with medical poisons for the sake of "love", of course.
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End Pattaya 2008 / Part one
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Sex shows
are there any live shows to be seen in Pattaya and where can i ind them. Are they held in gogo's or what?
Thanks
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You could check out my top floor room at the Marriott Resort!
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Banking
Fellas I have read the reports, and have added in the TJ section, some help would be appreciated of the do's and don't's of ATMS and banking if your staying for a month or do not bother with the banks because your ATM from the states will be accepted.
Or is there an easier way of getting to your money. I here some of the exchange rates are pretty good. I am about to set up my first trip any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Hunting
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[QUOTE=Firedsup]Fellas I have read the reports, and have added in the TJ section, some help would be appreciated of the do's and don't's of ATMS and banking if your staying for a month or do not bother with the banks because your ATM from the states will be accepted.
Or is there an easier way of getting to your money. I here some of the exchange rates are pretty good. I am about to set up my first trip any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]
I survive pretty much exclusively on the ATM, but usually keep a stash of dollars/pounds/euros in case the network goes down or something - never had to dip into said cash though.
I usually pull cash out in 10k bundles, and I read a great idea the other day about how to make sure the banks don't double charge you for the same transaction (just in case). Pull out 10k the first time, then 10k + 100 baht the second time, then +200 baht the third time and it'll be obvious on your statement if something is amiss.
Apart from that, you are pretty safe using the ATM day or night - but, obviously use your judgement. Pattaya will be a lot safer than TJ, and, for the visitor at least, the chances of being violently robbed are orders of magnitude lower than they are likely to be back wherever you come from (US/Europe etc).
I tend to keep 1000s in one pocket, and the rest in another. The thousands pocket is then area verboten if you are in an area with wandering hands....
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Firedsup,
I do everything through the ATM'S, but I usually will have around $500.00 USD, in cash with me just for insurance. This is strictly for when I return home to the U.S. and stopovers at other countries airport. I use a Debit/Credit card to withdraw money from my checking account and a backup Credit Card that links me also to my Checking in case I lose the Debit card. Each card has different Pin numbers. I also carry another Credit Card outside of my main bank.
I mainly use Bangkok Bank and Siam Commercial ATM'S, I believe they are Blue and Yellow and are located usually in the shopping centers like Big C, but are also located outside most 7/11'S. I trust them because they usually are well stock with cash and always have paper receipts! Exchange rates are good and remember most like be charged a conversion percentage. For example if you take 10,000 baht from a ATM, in USD it will show on your statement now $304.00 and your bank will charge you $3.04 for the conversion! Remember also if you bank is in the U.S. like mines I can take around 17,000 baht which is around $500.00 within a 24 hr period. The exchange rate being near 33 to 1?
Enjoy, hope that helps. LBM
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Veterano
Thanks for that. What time do you want me to arrive :-)
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In the USA, CC and ATM are fairly close in the sense the only difference is really what type of rewards or cash back on ATM fee they may charge on the purchase side. On the finance side is really the credit limit and APR.
When you use your ATM or Credit card internationally there is vastly different treatment among cards. For instance on the credit card side I only use Captial One VISA card because there is zero foreign exchange fees added. I think Wells Fargo adds 5 percent to foreign exchange. Most CC like the onces from Chase bank will add 2 percent. On the ATM card I use various E*TRADE financial card because there is never any ATM fees and no extra 1 percent fee added.
Also I have at least two ATM cards associated with different accounts. One I carry with me and the other is back in the room safe as back-up in case I loose it or it's stolen or stops working because the VISA fraud people think something gone wrong. Having two ATMs is less risky than transporting cash around. If you are traveling to Thailand phone your bank to tell them that withdrawals from Thailand are expected.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Firedsup,
For example if you take 10,000 baht from a ATM, in USD it will show on your statement now $304.00 and your bank will charge you $3.04 for the conversion! Remember also if you bank is in the U.S. like mines I can take around 17,000 baht which is around $500.00 within a 24 hr period. The exchange rate being near 33 to 1?
Enjoy, hope that helps. LBM[/QUOTE]
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Mr. Hoffy,
I had a Capital One Visa, a little over a year ago and closed it because they the CC, interest was too high. The one time I used it they didn't say anything about the coversion but they called it something else, but it was nearly 5% for the usage. Account Closed!
My backup is Chase Bank Visa, 6.9%, never have used this account! Just a back up!
There is a Checking Account being offered with Charles Schwab, right now 4 % interest with no balance requirement. A friend that just retired from them told me about it that she heard from her co-worker it didn't charge you for ATM fee's domestic or internation. Hard to believe right. She just came back from a vacation in Asia. She got a Conversion charge from the ATM! but you can use any ATM, domestic Free!
I'm going to check on Capital One again. LBM
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Huh, you guys need to switch banks. I've got two credit cards Visa and Mastercard, can use in any ATM - no cost at all. I also got two debit cards, no cost either - and 75 days free credit. Most European banks offer this.
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Question
What is the going rate in Pattaya now for girls?
CC
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I am not using the CCs to carry a credit balance. Since Capital One advertises so much on TV their rates on outstanding balances must be fairly high. I only use the Capital One card for foreign purchases when I have to. I never carry a balance. The ATM cards I use never charge a fee and the exchange rate is very close the interbank rate. In Thailand the ATM rate was better than the best cash exchange rate that I could find. In Europe the ATM rate is very close to interbank rate and I've never found a rate even close to the ATM exchange rate. In the past 4 years, I've never converted cash from USD to Euros at a bank or exchange booth.
The last time I used a Chase card I figured I was charged at least a 2 percent exchange fee. That was in Bangkok where I put my Capital One card in my rollway and the bell hop had already taken it to the room. The front desk wanted me to pay for the room upfront so I just gave them my Chase bank card. The cost was around 2500 Bhat and I wasn't there to make a fuss.
The one scam people should be aware is that local travel agents in Thailand will attempt to convert the local currency in Bhat to USD at their poor exchange rate and bill the cost in USD. Always insist that the reservation to be billed in Bhat to you US based credit card.
I just used a Max-rate checking ATM card from E*TRADE that pays 3.3% >$5k with no ATM fee on two different ATMs I used in Europe. They say the charge a conversion fee of 1 percent but I can hardly tell.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Mr. Hoffy,
I had a Capital One Visa, a little over a year ago and closed it because they the CC, interest was too high. The one time I used it they didn't say anything about the coversion but they called it something else, but it was nearly 5% for the usage. Account Closed!
My backup is Chase Bank Visa, 6.9%, never have used this account! Just a back up!
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[QUOTE=Ckc 007]I was supposed to be in Pattaya this week but have had to postpone my trip. My main concern is racism towards Indians. – I am a British born Indian and pretty well of. My mate came back from Salvador Brazil and told me the women love colored ppl. I was about to book flights to Brazil and came across Pattaya which sounds a lot better but is the racisim really that bad? What are the work arounds? What bars allow Indians? Now planning to go in jan / feb[/QUOTE]Let me take this opportunity to make it clear for once and for all that Thailand (I mean the whole nation, not just Pattaya) is a 200% NO for people from India, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. It's unfortunate that I had to find it out myself without having read about it as part of my preparation. I did spend a considerable amount of time online (not on this site unfortunately), researching and discussing with people and I was shocked to see what was in store for me. I work in California, am originally from India and had decided to take a stop in Thailand for entertainment purposes. Because I had planned in advance I did end up spending about 4 weeks in total in Bangkok and Pattaya, so my experience is confirmed and reconfirmed.
Hatred for Indian community comes naturally to Thais. It's like they were born with it and like it's a religious doctrine to hate Indians. No debate, no questions, period - end of story.
It wasn't in my mind at all to expect this. I thought as a P4P destination, it's money that counts. But no, it's the natural instinct of filthy little bastards to stop Indian people right at the gate at go go bars. Those vermins can't speak a word of English but they no how to say no to Indians. And they know in their minds that it is not open to discussion. The cunts sitting at the beer bars have a natural instinct to turn their heads away as soon as they see an Indian soul approaching them. If however, you do manage to get in front of them, you will be reluctantly served by the worst looking girls. Every good looking girl that you buy drinks for, spend money on, try to entertain, will turn out to be on her period (haf men - or whatever the fuck they say in Thai).
Unbelievable. I could have turned around the lives of a few of them. All they had to was ask. All they had to do was to be a good a ****, work their charm. Money was their for the taking but they were not interested. They were on their periods or otherwise showing attitude.
I did spend considerable amount of money though. I didn't mind it at all. I was there to spend money. I only wanted to get my money's worth. But I was being made to spend for the wrong reason. I had to spend just to show that I had money. Then I would have to spend more to get the girl. Every day every outing was a challenge. I was guilty until proven innocent. This situation is beyond repair. It is fucked beyond recognition. The other alternative was to change two airline tickets and incur about $600 in damages. I figured I might just as well continue with the embarrassment and fuck a few more of them for a week. So I stayed.
To top it, I am one of the more aggressive kind of Indians. At one of the go gos around soi 7 I shred a 1000 bath bill into pieces. The little fucks manning the entrance were shocked. I went there the next day and did it again. But they were younger folks, only murmured. I did the same again AGAIN but this time at a different go go few steps away on the Beach road. They called out their gangsta looking boss from inside. Pretty entertaining scene was enacted. I was secretly hoping for a fist fight but it wasn't to be - for the benefit of all I must say. Policemen came. I walked with them to the headquarters two blocks away. There I explained the situation that I was a regular at that place few weeks ago and that these are new folks and they were stopping me from seeing my lady.
"You have lady?", that part he understood. "Yes, and I was there to give money to the lady and these people were stopping me". That struck a chord with him and off I went. Back to the same go go of course. Just to let them know I am also not an easy bastard. Mamasan and all the service girls were "soli soli" but how the fuck does it matter to me anymore. Thailand is fucked in my mind.
I was able to establish myself at super baby (or the one across, I don't remember exactly, they're both almost the same). 3000 baht take out but that's a flat price at least - priceless. Much better than patronizing random beer bar ladies while gambling on the prospects. I am not a gambler.
After the incident with cops I cut my Pattaya visit short and went back to Bangkok. Stayed at Novotel where I had heard you get "students" in their club. Ventured into the club at night, it was an all out **** scene. Sluts standing by themselves displaying their wares, sluts in pairs talking, Russian sluts sitting in the corner in a group seated separately. Decided to offer a drink to one not so slutty looking Thai one. She wanted 4000 baht for ST. I politely declined without negotiating. That's how much the imported talent from China makes in California. And that too by providing a delightful level of service. I didn't travel this distance to spend California price for a dead fish fuck. I ended up spending 10,000 on a Russian that night. Picked her up from Rama hotel close to Nana plaza. Now THAT'S what I can justify myself spending. If I were to pork a Russian in California for a night, it would cost me upwards of a $1000 bucks. It was a no brainer. Called a Thai escort one day. 7,500 for 24 hours. Looked like a steal. It was on my last day in Bangkok. I wanted to see something. So I took her out with me - boat ride, snake park, Chinese dinner, Chinatown, a lazy fuck and then sleep. I told her I needed a fuck in the morning. She said yes but forgot about it the next morning. I had paid her 8,000 in advance previous night just to make her feel comfortable. In the morning I asked for my extra 500 back without telling her why. She returned it without asking why. 500 baht - nothing for me and a lot for a poor lady, but she had earned the right to lose that extra money. I only obliged.
Other time spent a few nights at soi Cowboy and several massage parlors. Did not even think about Nana plaza. Overall, managed to spend money and get laid, but didn't enjoy and they sure as hell didn't enjoy it either.
I am not too surprised by their attitude. There is certain element in Indian personality that doesn't lend itself to being liked easily. That part I always knew. Hell even Indian people don't like Indians, just go to India to see. They are all fighting. But what I was completely aghast to find was why should it be part of P4P? I guess it has to do with your background, your education, your bringing up, your friend circle, the stories doing rounds, the precedents, etc.
At this point I am extremely pissed at Thailand. So much so that I would like to bring harm to Thailand, their establishments in USA, or any Thai bloke or girl in general who happens to cross my walk of life.
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[QUOTE=Mr_Hoffy]
The one scam people should be aware is that local travel agents in Thailand will attempt to convert the local currency in Bhat to USD at their poor exchange rate and bill the cost in USD. Always insist that the reservation to be billed in Bhat to you US based credit card. [/QUOTE]
The flip side of this scam is if a Thai agency tries to quote you a U.S. rate, already calculated at a bad FX rate, and then convert it back to Baht, at an equally bad FX rate - thus hitting you for a bad rate TWICE - and if you were to then pay with a CC, you'd get nailed for THREE conversion fees.
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Racism toward Indians??
Bayareapundit: Are you sure the girls avoided you because you are of Indian descent? Could it have been due to:
1)your aggresive personality,
2)willingness to spend lots of money to show complete strangers you are wealthy,
3)hoping for a fight with Thais,
4)disrespecting the King by tearing up money with his picture,
5)honestly believing you will better a girl's life if she only asks.
I think the girls were able to size you up as soon as you walked in the door...and not from the color of your skin.
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Alright. The reason I published this report is so that an Indian brother who is planning a Thailand adventure for the first time reads it and takes heed and possibly makes up his mind to shelve the idea.
Secondly, I figured somebody will take objection to the report and it happens to be you. So let me answer some of your objections with a request to not prolong this discussion because a lot of what I've said is factual and undebatable. Let me rule out those objections of yours that have to do with me personally and not with my nationality.
[QUOTE=Allover]Bayareapundit: Are you sure the girls avoided you because you are of Indian descent? Could it have been due to:
1)your aggresive personality.[/QUOTE]I am afraid I am not fuming all the time. I am just another regular bloke walking around thinking about little things in life who only reacts when a finger is unjustifiably pointed at him. Everybody does that.
[QUOTE=Allover]2)willingness to spend lots of money to show complete strangers you are wealthy.[/QUOTE]There was no other way they would talk to me if it wasn't for me to order 4-5 lady drinks as soon as I walked to the bar or otherwise just threw a bunch of 20 baht bills in the air before I said hello or unless I unloaded a full bucket of ping pong balls on the dancing floor at go gos. I tried the regular way first, it didn't work and it didn't work SEVERAL times. I also practiced revenge tipping where I would shower the non lookers with lady drinks and tip the ugliest girl who happened to wipe my sweat (it's a burning hell) 100 baht bills while the pretty ones and mamasan looked on. Yet another story for them to tell. Be my guest. I didn't light the fire, I only fueled it.
[QUOTE=Allover]3)hoping for a fight with Thais.[/QUOTE]Oh well. If you corner a rat and if the rat sees no escape even he is likely to fight back.
[QUOTE=Allover]4)disrespecting the King by tearing up money with his picture,
[/QUOTE]I only returned the favor like I always do. And I always return the favor in a higher proportion.
[QUOTE=Allover]5)honestly believing you will better a girl's life if she only asks.
[/QUOTE]Indeed. That WAS in fact my idea of going there. I wanted to change at least ONE life. Considering that the only expectation of one of the go go girls was to have a laundry shop it wasn't too far fetched. What would that kind of expectation level cost me, a few thousand dollars? A life would have been changed; a career, a life path, a revenue stream would have been set. She would be on her own rather than stripping in front of strangers at odd schedules and trying to get picked up. What price would you put on that? And I would have had a fuck buddy for life. I am not saying I would do this to every one of them - I was just hoping to do it for ONE.
[QUOTE=Allover]I think the girls were able to size you up as soon as you walked in the door...and not from the color of your skin.[/QUOTE]Wrong. The truth is lying everywhere, in every bar and every go go. And I don't have anything against it mind you. It's OK, I will just avoid Thailand, will leave them together with their hatred if that's what makes them happy. The more happy people on this Earth the better. I will search for other more hospitable abodes who will respect my dollars and skin.
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[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]Let me take this opportunity to make it clear for once and for all that Thailand (I mean the whole nation, not just Pattaya) is a 200% NO for people from India, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. ... [/QUOTE]
I don't blame you for being pissed off. I know I would be too if it happened to me. I believe you when you say you had a hard time here, and can understand why. Sometimes I talk to the girls I meet about this prejudice thing, and everyone of them without exception, p4p and non p4p, says she doesn't like Indians, Arabs, Blacks, and a few others. It's disgusting to me as I grew up believing that all people should be judged by their character -- not the color of their skin or their ethnicity.
That being said, there is no doubt in my mind that you made the situation far worse for yourself by becoming aggressive and confrontational with the Thais. It is a miracle that you didn't get the shit kicked out of you for tearing up Thai currencey -- 3 times no less -- and thereby desecrationg their king. You are lucky to be alive my friend. I'm surprised that the police didn't murder you.
Other persons on this forum of Indian descent have had good experiences here despite the initial prejudice. They apparently have learned how to overcome the problems you faced by being patient and showing a good attitude. Never-the-less, I do sympathize with you.
Best regards,
Daddy
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[QUOTE=Blunderer]I survive pretty much exclusively on the ATM, but usually keep a stash of dollars/pounds/euros in case the network goes down or something - never had to dip into said cash though.
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Two suggestions.
1. Backup should be Travellers Cheques e.g. AMEX for safety. Even though no intention to use them till emergency hits.
2. I opened a Thai Bank Account with Bangkok Bank Limited. I use internet to xfer large sums in Foreign Currency to my Thai Account and then pull it from ATM gradually. Make sure conversion occurs at Thai end so not to get ripped off. My own Country would definitely rip me off if asked them to send in Thai Baht.
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I do not think Thai's totally discriminate people who look Arab or Indian.
I look Arab and I have had a Thai gf for a long time. I have gone everywhere with her and people were always friendly.
yes, couple of times I went to a Go-Go bar in Pattaya i was refused entry. They said the club is full, in other words you are not welcome. I take it all with a grain of salt and i am non-confrontational. Travelling all over the world I have learned to be friendly and not draw attention to myself.
Well, the Indians must have done something for Thais to form an opinion.
But if you are reasonably well dressed, smell good act as a gentleman I think you should not have any problem.
Acting crazy and insulting the culture when you are a visitor is unwarranted in any country.
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Bayareapundit
Great report! Funniest I've read here for some time.
Apparent to all old hands why they continue to exclude Indian subcontinent blokes into the bars/gogos...and rightly so.
If I had seen your boorish behavior I'd have been the first to give you a Henekin hat, knowing full well the rest of the Thai's in the bar would have applauded and finished you off. You are a whinging pratt.
Bless the Thai's for their good judgement and consider yourself lucky you left alive.
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Something off topic.Not indian, but worked in indian restaurant back in student years. They never tip,they never happy. As soon as your remind about the tips,they stop understand english. So dear indian friend-tnink about.
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Atm
Thanks to all, great info enjoy and thanks again.
This will help for my trip planning.
Happy hunting
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I guess u went to the champagne go-go?...When I was in Pattaya and Bkk-I noticed quite a few indians having a good time. While I dont discount the fact that some idiot girl may have turned up her nose or some mgr did discriminate, there are over 3k bars in Pattaya..and perhaps 100K hookers working. If a bar or a hooker is acting up--go to the next one.
When I was there, we went to club boesche(sp?) and stood at the door deciding...the dude at the door motioned us to leave...we simply left and went to another bar that welcomed us
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[QUOTE=Larry Lurker]Great report! Funniest I've read here for some time.
Apparent to all old hands why they continue to exclude Indian subcontinent blokes into the bars/gogos...and rightly so.
If I had seen your boorish behavior I'd have been the first to give you a Henekin hat, knowing full well the rest of the Thai's in the bar would have applauded and finished you off. You are a whinging pratt.
Bless the Thai's for their good judgement and consider yourself lucky you left alive.[/QUOTE]Great response. Meet me sometime. Except it'll have to be outside Thailand because Thailand is totally fucked.
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Hi,
Like you I'm in my first trip. I have spend 8 nights at BKK.
As a newbie like me, I suggest you to stat at Livingstone's Lodge. Place feels more like a home. With a great bar and the most friendly staff in whole BKK. Even drinking with the owner and the other guests is more fun than going out chasing girls. It is located in the center of night life. The sky train can take you anywhere (shopping & entertainment) with in 5 to 10 minutes. You can even walk most places.
As for places to go I have tried the Rainbow 4 gogo at Nana. No: 158 & 128 was young and hot looking sisters and they get along well.
There are also very beautifull girls at Livingstones. But I never tried. I guess I'm too shy for BKK. Barfining a girl from my hotel and seeing her again and ignoring her was to hard for me.
Like you I had built an itinerary for each day. But never stick with it. Go with the flow. Just note the places to avoid. Be sure to try Thermae and Spice Club. There are many girls for all tastes.
I hope this can help you a little.
Full report will follow when I get back home.
[QUOTE=Montrealer2]Hi Gentlemen,
I will be travelling to LOS for the 1st time. I am staying 4 weeks, travelling everywhere.
I will spend some time in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket. I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Some of my questions may sound silly...
1) GENERAL QUESTION: where can one find the hottest & best-looking working Thai girls at reasonable prices? BKK, Pattaya, Samui or Phuket?
2. GENERAL QUESTION: where is the best places to get these girls? go-go bars, massage parlors or freelancers on the street? (could you name some actual places and locations that are sure-shots)
3. SPECIFIC QUESTIONS: would you mind telling me which are your top 5 hotels to stay at in terms of price, comfort and girl-friendliness?; where even the staff is available for ST/LT...? (for Pattaya, Phuket and BKK)
I am just trying to get myself veered in the right direction. I want to be as efficient as possible.
Also, I have a fetish for nylons, pantyhose and uniforms (schoolgirl, air stewardess, nurse, maid, etc...). I am aware that there are supposedly bars that cater to these types of places. Would you know of any in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket?
Thank you so much, and I await your answers with impatience.
M2[/QUOTE]
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bayareapundit said; "at this point i am extremely pissed at thailand. so much so that i would like to bring harm to thailand, their establishments in usa, or any thai bloke or girl in general who happens to cross my walk of life".
this is what ends up happening when discrimination is thrown in a guy's face. these thai's can be pretty nasty fucks when it comes to their racial profiling.....and this poor guy seems to have caught a large dose of it on his trip. probably one incident after another can get anyone to this point. it really makes me sick when i constantly hear these thai's and their constant attitude and looking down upon indians and others. it seems to be a deeply ingrained prejudice towards indians and others who do not fit the "standard" of what these thai's like. i have been personally embarassed by an incident where three indian/euro/american east indians came to our project for consultation and they were treated like shit at the local p4p establishments. one time at the door can set the attitude for the night. it is easy for a white guy to say move on down the road to a place where they will let you enter......but it doesn't feel good to even be around three previously happy guys just looking for some tail.....and now they are told no entry....because you look indian. just think how the guy feels in the pit of his stomach being told that he can't get to the gate of fucking a common "so-peeni"....because of his nationality or race.
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Thai Racism
Frequent visitor's to Thailand have heard the girls complain about Indians or Indian looking people. My response to Bayareapundit in no way condones racism. I was critical of his behavior and attitude. I do sympathize with persons of color that have a hard time in LOS.
During a Korea trip a few years ago, I visited one of their red lights districts. It consists of about three streets with the girls standing in windows similar to Amsterdam. The main street has gorgeous girls and the back street girls are not as pretty. A white guy will never be serviced by a main street hottie. Whites will only be serviced by girls on the side streets. It's prejudice and it sucks.
Thailand is not alone in being racist and racism can be directed at anyone, not just people of color.
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The old racism issue...AGAIN
Thais are xenophobic (not racist - racism is internal). What a surprise? How many times does this have to be discussed?
They are a basically homogenous nation, never militarily colonized (unlike the rest of the surrounding countries), where people are indoctrinated from birth that Thailand has one culture and one essence ("Thainess") and where people have a disproportionate view of Thailand's place in the world ("Thailand #1") and where everyone is basically told to be suspicious of anyone who is not like them - just like the rest of Asia (try going to Korea or Japan, if you want to feel really unwelcome).
Bayareapundit - they hate everyone. It might be more blatant, based on your experience that they particularly hate Kaek (what they call Indians, Arabs and anyone else of a swarthy complexion). But, they hate Farang, too. They're just a lot more subtle about it. I experience xenophobia on a daily basis from my Thai co-workers and I'm as WASP as you can get - blonde hair, blue eyes, pasty, pink skin. Unlike the low-end Thais you met, who might be excused for their ignorance, the Thais I'm around are supposed to be educated and enlightened, having gone to school in the West. Yet, they make derogatory remarks about Farang every day and there is a definite double standard in terms of how we are treated.
However, your obnoxious behaviour didn't help matters any and only managed to strengthen stereotypes about Indians.
I would also like to point out that India isn't exactly a bastion of open-mindedness either. I've been there twice (once for 3 months) and find the people incredibly dishonest, rude, aggressive and downright hostile at times - probably the most insular, xenophobic place I've ever been in my life.
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Agree 100
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Thais are xenophobic (not racist - racism is internal). What a surprise? How many times does this have to be discussed?
They are a basically homogenous nation, never militarily colonized (unlike the rest of the surrounding countries), where people are indoctrinated from birth that Thailand has one culture and one essence ("Thainess") and where people have a disproportionate view of Thailand's place in the world ("Thailand #1") and where everyone is basically told to be suspicious of anyone who is not like them - just like the rest of Asia (try going to Korea or Japan, if you want to feel really unwelcome).
Bayareapundit - they hate everyone. It might be more blatant, based on your experience that they particularly hate Kaek (what they call Indians, Arabs and anyone else of a swarthy complexion). But, they hate Farang, too. They're just a lot more subtle about it. I experience xenophobia on a daily basis from my Thai co-workers and I'm as WASP as you can get - blonde hair, blue eyes, pasty, pink skin. Unlike the low-end Thais you met, who might be excused for their ignorance, the Thais I'm around are supposed to be educated and enlightened, having gone to school in the West. Yet, they make derogatory remarks about Farang every day and there is a definite double standard in terms of how we are treated.
However, your obnoxious behaviour didn't help matters any and only managed to strengthen stereotypes about Indians.
I would also like to point out that India isn't exactly a bastion of open-mindedness either. I've been there twice (once for 3 months) and find the people incredibly dishonest, rude, aggressive and downright hostile at times - probably the most insular, xenophobic place I've ever been in my life.[/QUOTE]
I am an African-American, black as night and I have worked with Indians guys in Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and the UAE. They are not the friendliest people in the world bruh. In their country its the same thing with the light skin more widely accepted. Also try talking with an Indian lady in front of those guys whether she is a ***** or not most of them get offended royally.
As for Thailand I have had a few bar girls turn their nose up at me. Then their are some who are begging hugging jumping on my back to go home with me. I also experienced the same in PI where I live. Guys if a girl doesn't like you whether she is a hooker or not move right along just as you would if a non-WG told you to fuck off...I have been to all the three major spots in Thailand more then once and had a great time each time. They seem to warm up a little more when I tell them that I am an American though.
Take It Sleazy
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Thais hate themselves
They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.
Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.
Truth hurts!
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[QUOTE=D Etat]
I also experienced the same in PI where I live.
Take It Sleazy[/QUOTE]
D Etat, what is PI ?
;)
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[QUOTE=Professor10]PI = Phillipines[/QUOTE]
Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines" :D
It is a tricky word.
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Mick, of course, you know my question was a joke........
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines" :D
It is a tricky word.[/QUOTE]
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ML,
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how it came about (sigh).
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.
Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.
Truth hurts![/QUOTE]
An in-depth and sensitive understanding of Thai culture. My hat's off to you. ;)
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Truly Inelegant
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines" :D
It is a tricky word.[/QUOTE]
Wow! That was tasteless insulting the thousands of American soldiers who proudly served in the Philippines during the colonial period and after. PI stands for "Philippine Islands".
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Wow! That was tasteless insulting the thousands of American soldiers who proudly served in the Philippines during the colonial period and after. PI stands for "Philippine Islands".[/QUOTE]
I thought it stood for Penile Inplant? Wow! You learn something everyday.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I thought it stood for Penile Inplant? [/QUOTE]
Another subject you're an expert on, you would think this because you have one?
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.
Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.
Truth hurts![/QUOTE]
I vote we drop this subject for now.......but the above really does look like a very intelligent analysis of the situation. The whole thing is about self hate and Thai being the center of the world (it's not!). It's also a lot of crap that Thais who have been to an American/western university somehow should be expected to escape from this situation. They go to a university in the west.....stay with mostly Thai people in their social group, want to eat only Thai food most of the time and pull the same shit off their soil that they pull on it. They then return to the fatherland at some point....and act the same as when they left (i.e. that "lie" thing they are famous for, men causing termoil in interpersonal relationships with drinking and "hanging" with Thai men, racism, etc.). This is a generalisation of course....but fits the many Thais I have been involved with (male and female on a non-sexual basis) in the west.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Another subject you're an expert on, you would think this because you have one?[/QUOTE]
I am hoping you're being as facetious as I am. :)
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I am hoping you're being as facetious as I am. :)[/QUOTE]
I am, and it's good to see your sense of humor is still intact.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]I am, and it's good to see your sense of humor is still intact.[/QUOTE]
Well, in that case, you're correct. I did have a PI and it was while I was in the PI working as a PI. ;)
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Wow! That was tasteless insulting the thousands of American soldiers who proudly served in the Philippines during the colonial period and after. PI stands for "Philippine Islands".[/QUOTE]
I have a lot of trouble spelling it too. We all do. No insult intended.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I thought it stood for Penile Inplant? Wow! You learn something everyday.[/QUOTE]
Was Magnum P.I. a super large Penile Implant? :confused:
A soapy MP girl I fancied once (at the Thermae) told me all about the Thai Prime Minister's penile implant (no not Thaksin). I presume these days that the little Vitamin V or Vitamin C may have drastically reduced the need for Penile Implants. :D
I don't really know much about this topic. I'm just speculating wildly.
Anyway its great that older blokes can be assisted when necessary and can monger to the fullest.
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Themae girls a.k.a. "Termites"
From ML:
A soapy MP girl I fancied once (at the Thermae) told me all about the Thai Prime Minister's penile implant (no not Thaksin). I presume these days that the little Vitamin V or Vitamin C may have drastically reduced the need for Penile Implants. : D
ML. Might you be refering to the infamous "Noi" from Thermae? Beautiful face, big knockers, (made an awful racket when she ate), hails from Chumpon. Or maybe her close friends Nueng and Bau. The Thai VIP with the intials A. P? Know that crowd too well! Happy to share photo's, stories, even current phone numbers but not here publicly.
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[QUOTE=Montrealer2]Hi Gentlemen,
I will be travelling to LOS for the 1st time. I am staying 4 weeks, travelling everywhere.
I will spend some time in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket. I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Some of my questions may sound silly...
1) GENERAL QUESTION: where can one find the hottest & best-looking working Thai girls at reasonable prices? BKK, Pattaya, Samui or Phuket?
2. GENERAL QUESTION: where is the best places to get these girls? go-go bars, massage parlors or freelancers on the street? (could you name some actual places and locations that are sure-shots)
3. SPECIFIC QUESTIONS: would you mind telling me which are your top 5 hotels to stay at in terms of price, comfort and girl-friendliness?; where even the staff is available for ST/LT...? (for Pattaya, Phuket and BKK)
I am just trying to get myself veered in the right direction. I want to be as efficient as possible.
Also, I have a fetish for nylons, pantyhose and uniforms (schoolgirl, air stewardess, nurse, maid, etc...). I am aware that there are supposedly bars that cater to these types of places. Would you know of any in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket?
Thank you so much, and I await your answers with impatience.
M2[/QUOTE]You can find a lot more info by reading the forum here but I'll try to generally answer your general questions.
1. BKK & Pattaya. KS and Phuket do have some nightlife & a good time can be had but its nothing compared to B & P.
2. I prefer go go girls over freelancers for a variety of reasons. Namely medical checks and if one runs or rips you off you can return to the club and state your case. With a FL you have no recourse for theft and a much higher chance of getting an STD. In BKK just go to Soi Cowboy. In Pattaya go to Walking Street. Names of clubs are not necessary as there are so many in both places. Best to just check them out at your leisure. There are also many good picks at the beer gardens which are cheaper than the go go clubs.
3. In BKK I usually stay at Nana Plaza Hotel or one of the smaller hotels near Nana Plaza on Soi 4. All hotels in this area are girl friendly. Other hotels in other areas often have a join fee which I hate. In Pattaya I stay at one of the places on Soi 13 just off Walking Street. Dynasty Hotel or Sandy Springs Hotel. Both are relatively cheap and are near all the action. Personally I don't bring girls who work at the hotel club I'm staying at unless I'm slumming at the Penthouse which is connected to the Kitten Club next door. This can lead to much drama and some rude comments when you bring a different catch home the next day. With so many to choose from, its not worth the hassle. I'm sure you've heard. Don't shit where you eat.
4. Thais will do any fetish for the right price. It's all about the baht in LOS. Stockings you can get there. Uniform costumes might need to be brought with you. Careful though. A buddy of mine bought a Lady Cop uni from Ebay and somehow lost the keys to the handcuffs. While he was still handcuffed to the bed. LOL. Luckily the girl didn't leave him stranded there but from what I understand it was an embarrassing moment when the hotel handyman was called to cut him loose.
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Maybe those same G.I.'s were the ones who came up with the UK.
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Pattaya News
Think Pattaya isn't dangerous? Check out this news link.
Its both sad and funny as hell. Pattaya is a circus in every aspect. Enjoy.
[url]http://pattayacitynews.net/news_update.html[/url]
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Pattaya for Pattayans
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]Think Pattaya isn't dangerous? Check out this news link.
Its both sad and funny as hell. Pattaya is a circus in every aspect. Enjoy.
[url]http://pattayacitynews.net/news_update.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I've been reading these particular news reports for years. The thing that really stands out is that the vast majority of reported crime in Patts is Thai-on-Thai. Even among katoeys, it seems. The crime rates involving farang either as victims or instigators are consistently and astonishingly low given the nature of the vast majority of farangs' presences in this town.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Well, in that case, you're correct. I did have a PI and it was while I was in the PI working as a PI. ;)[/QUOTE]
Good one! However, isn't using that perplexing PI abbreviation three times in one sentence with three separate connatations bound create even more confusion?
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wow ! - A FR no less..
Gentlemans Massage - After reading the 3(?) reports from a recent newcomer all singing the praises of this fine establishment i decided it was somewhere i might try if i remembered....as it turned out they advertise in a free publication in Pattaya, it had a map, and i decided to give it a go. I recall it being at the end of 3rd road as you join Pattaya Nua Road (?). First off don't look for a sign saying Gentlemans Massage....no, that would be too easy, look for the frosted glass entrance, street sign in Thai, and many stickers on the frosted glass saying [url]www.fm.com[/url], the only other sign said Fashion Massage.
Walk in papa is there, there are a few couches a counter on the right and a raised area on the left, the 3 girls i see are sprawles out on the sofa's half asleep. They make no effort to move after i enter, papa sits me down and explains the menu, i don't remember much of it to be honest.
30 minute Hand Relief - 750 Baht (or 950, not sure now)
60 minute massage, HJ and BJ - 1,500
I think FS was 1,900
Anyway, i pick the 60 minute HJ and BJ, pap explains that with my package, the second girl is half price....hmmm i had to think about it, but i was so tired from the heavy night before, i didn't want to be working, i wanted to be enjoying so i opted out. Then papa asks the 3 girls to take their seats and a 4th girl appears from a back room, they sit on the raised area....this can be intimidating for some, but i made a quick choice and we were off upstairs.
We went to the 3rd floor, the room was spacious, large bed, corner jacuzzi tub steroe system and lots of quaint, authentic Thai items, the trouble was that it was very old, there was damp mould everywhere, even in the tub and that made it feel dirty. I was asked to undress and take shower...yep, shower in the tub...alone....she joined eventually when she realised i was waiting. After the shower there was a pretty lame massage which involved a little body slip and slid action with the oil, but it was all very lame, my girl kept yawning (and i was supposed to be tired). Flip over time came, she oiled it up and started with a vigerous HJ, after 5 minutes she reached for a condom, i explained i didn't want FS, she said it was for the BJ, i laughed and asked why, she said it was better, i disagreed, she proceeded to BBBJ, but kept reaching and spitting into my used shower towel. After around 10 minutes i was really bored, it wasn't happening, she'd had her chance, so i took matters into my own hands and provided her with a deep cleansing facial. The remaining time was spent massaging my arm...yep, about 20 minutes or so i would guess, just massging my arm, and doing it very badly...(how do you massage an arm badly!?!?). I showered dressed, paid her the 1,500 and went downstairs, as we entered the room, the silly tart referred to me as keeneow (Stingy/Tight with money) to her colleagues, with a smile on my face i left.
Would i go back........NO, does anything reported on this board about that place ring true........NO....having said that, surroundings aside, my bad experience was with an individual, not an establishment. YMMV.
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Sabai Land.... i think !
I went to one of the Sabai soapy places, on 2nd road nr the entrance to soi 2(?).
Wow, this was my first FB experience in Pattaya, i've had 100's (maybe 1,000's!) all over Thailand, but this took the biscuit. As we entered and sat down the 30 or so girls in the bowl were ALL waving at us, mouthing hello, pointing to us and them, making hand signals about what we could do together, smiling, happy, they were selling themselves all out, it was great, not like a BKK FB where at the most you may get an eye or a sneaky smile, these girls were working the bowl....excellent.
I picked one, name and number irrelevant, theres loads of nice ones there. bill was 1,900 Baht, that included my San Mig Light, papa asked for the 100 baht as a tip, i said you only get a tip if its good, he laughed, as did the girl and i was handed my 100 baht. Up to the room, very small, small double bed, standard bath and an area for the blow up mattress..the aircon barely worked and the room was dark, again giving it a dirty feel. Its' been a while since i've had the full soapy slip and slide so i was looking forward to it.
It turned out my girl was totally off her trolley, couldn't stop talking, wanted to know everything about me, family, work etc etc, it was driving me nuts, i fed her a fantasy scenario and she calmed down and decided to tell me about her 4 sponsors, one of whom lives with her but was in Phuket on business, so she had decided to work whilst he was away...no it wasn't one of them, she freelly admitted having worked here for 2yrs already, but quit for this guy a year ago !
There was no foreplay or warm up, despite my efforts to start some, she kept telling me, "first soapy, then bath, then happy" hmmm, great. Soapy was nice, suds and water was warm, slide was nice, kept feeling her pussies 6 o'clock shadow rubbing on me....no sexual stuff here though. Then into the bath, cleaned the suds off, then onto the bed, gave a bad BBBJ for all of 3 seconds, then slipped a condom on to provide a bad CBJ for about 1 minute before sliding on top of me, she wasn;t very tight, but no too loose either so we went at it, she took my hands to her breasts and forced me to squeeze very hard, much harder than i would normally and as i did she let out groans, i continued with this...but it felt fake (surprise!). she rode away for a while until she ran out of steam and rolled off and held her legs in the air, i clambered clumsily on top (as someone of my build and age would) and proceeded to bash her inner most regions with my cock, this became tiresome, i can;t remember why, but i asked her to roll over and took her doggy style, she made a lot of noise with each thrust and it was good enough to get me off. The second after i came she whipped me out the back, a dashed for the shower cleaning herself and leaving me to tend to the condom and left overs ! it was then a quick shower and get dresses, very rushed at the end. After we were dresses she said to me "not 100 baht tip for me right?" i agreed with her, and gave her 200 baht, she faked a smile and waied.
I never tipped papa, firstly he didn't recomend her and secondly she wasn't very good, i only tipped the girl as it was my first time here, i didn't know if i would be returning and i didn't want to cause any scene.
Would i go back...YES....different girl though.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Good one! However, isn't using that perplexing PI abbreviation three times in one sentence with three separate connatations bound create even more confusion?[/QUOTE]
You mean for example?...I did have a Private Investigator and it was while I was in the Phillipine islands working as a Penile Implant.
I see. You're right. That could be embarrassing...and painful. :)
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[QUOTE=Meaty]Gentlemans Massage - After reading the 3(?) reports from a recent newcomer all singing the praises of this fine establishment i decided it was somewhere i might try if i remembered....as it turned out they advertise in a free publication in Pattaya, it had a map, and i decided to give it a go. I recall it being at the end of 3rd road as you join Pattaya Nua Road (?). First off don't look for a sign saying Gentlemans Massage....no, that would be too easy, look for the frosted glass entrance, street sign in Thai, and many stickers on the frosted glass saying [url]www.fm.com[/url], the only other sign said Fashion Massage.
Walk in papa is there, there are a few couches a counter on the right and a raised area on the left, the 3 girls i see are sprawles out on the sofa's half asleep. They make no effort to move after i enter, papa sits me down and explains the menu, i don't remember much of it to be honest.
30 minute Hand Relief - 750 Baht (or 950, not sure now)
60 minute massage, HJ and BJ - 1,500
I think FS was 1,900
Anyway, i pick the 60 minute HJ and BJ, pap explains that with my package, the second girl is half price....hmmm i had to think about it, but i was so tired from the heavy night before, i didn't want to be working, i wanted to be enjoying so i opted out. Then papa asks the 3 girls to take their seats and a 4th girl appears from a back room, they sit on the raised area....this can be intimidating for some, but i made a quick choice and we were off upstairs.
We went to the 3rd floor, the room was spacious, large bed, corner jacuzzi tub steroe system and lots of quaint, authentic Thai items, the trouble was that it was very old, there was damp mould everywhere, even in the tub and that made it feel dirty. I was asked to undress and take shower...yep, shower in the tub...alone....she joined eventually when she realised i was waiting. After the shower there was a pretty lame massage which involved a little body slip and slid action with the oil, but it was all very lame, my girl kept yawning (and i was supposed to be tired). Flip over time came, she oiled it up and started with a vigerous HJ, after 5 minutes she reached for a condom, i explained i didn't want FS, she said it was for the BJ, i laughed and asked why, she said it was better, i disagreed, she proceeded to BBBJ, but kept reaching and spitting into my used shower towel. After around 10 minutes i was really bored, it wasn't happening, she'd had her chance, so i took matters into my own hands and provided her with a deep cleansing facial. The remaining time was spent massaging my arm...yep, about 20 minutes or so i would guess, just massging my arm, and doing it very badly...(how do you massage an arm badly!?!?). I showered dressed, paid her the 1,500 and went downstairs, as we entered the room, the silly tart referred to me as keeneow (Stingy/Tight with money) to her colleagues, with a smile on my face i left.
Would i go back........NO, does anything reported on this board about that place ring true........NO....having said that, surroundings aside, my bad experience was with an individual, not an establishment. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
The guy wrote like a carnival shill (the original guy who gave it the great review)......but thanks for taking one for the boy's!! (that's one place to wipe off the bucket list)
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Cerebral Meltdown
I've travelled to Thailand many times over the years. May be I'm a bit jaded or experienced, but I find I settle into my familiar routine when there. Hence I need your help. For my forthcoming trip I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Bangkok forum.
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[QUOTE=Kalahari George]I've travelled to Thailand many times over the years. May be I'm a bit jaded or experienced, but I find I settle into my familiar routine when there. Hence I need your help. For my forthcoming trip I'll be accompanied by a friend. He's never experienced mongering, barely travelled overseas and can't conceptualise what he's about to encounter. For that reason I'd like to make his trip very, very memorable. Please, any and all suggestions on where I can take him that will completely and utterly challenge him sexually would be greatly appreciated. Same message posted in Bangkok forum.[/QUOTE]
The Hell club which is like Edens in Bangkok.
To a soapie on 2nd road near big C
Visit walking street area go to Club Boseche & whats up a go go & Taboo are fun.
There is also a place over the main highway know as the darkside I have heard it is worth a visit but have not been myself.
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]The Hell club which is like Edens in Bangkok.
To a soapie on 2nd road near big C
Visit walking street area go to Club Boseche & whats up a go go & Taboo are fun.
There is also a place over the main highway know as the darkside I have heard it is worth a visit but have not been myself.[/QUOTE]
I can attest that the darkside is well worth a visit. There are many good locations there with many nice, dirty girls. PM me and I can let you know of another board where you can get a map of The Darkside. Also read my TR on Pattaya, day 5 I think about Darkside bars.
Cheers
Pete
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she proceeded to BBBJ, but kept reaching and spitting into my used shower towel. After around 10 minutes i was really bored, it wasn't happening, she'd had her chance, so i took matters into my own hands and provided her with a deep cleansing facial. The remaining time was spent massaging my arm...yep, about 20 minutes or so i would guess, just massging my arm, and doing it very badly...(how do you massage an arm badly!?!?).
This is by far the funneist thing I read. After you masturbate and the girl is massaging your arm.
Why not do it in your room and put ben-gay afterwards. Will save you time, money, etc.
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Hi Bayareapundit,
Looks like you had really bad time; I am also Indian and have been going to BKK & other regions in Thai since 1999. Initial I did work for time there when my company was implementing the GSM networks and after the work was over in 2000 I still made a few 10's of trips every year. Most of them were on transit when flying to US, OZ, Japan. I did spend a few years in NJ area.
Yes Thai’s do not like Indian on the face of it but once they get over the initial period they are pretty warm people, One of the reasons why in the night life, bars, etc. , they are not welcome is majority of them would just sit with drink and many of them who come are people who made money and just don’t know how to behave. They are basically aggressive in there talk & body language. Even within India if you look at people from North / Delhi are aggressive in there body language.
I know quite few BG’s who told me, one of the reasons they hate is they do not pay, or pay what was agreed or after taking to room a whole bunch other’s also want hers. This is some of the experiences the BG’s had and word goes around in BG network so fast that they beat even the some world fast networks. Also on the hygienic front they are low. In the same breath they tell me you not same same, you jade?
I had no problem in Nana, SC, and most of the bars know me as I come often and do spend money like any other normal visitor. I have myself seen Indian & Arabs been stopped and I been let in. I have also been to some of high end Thai places, initial with the local people and later on my own. These high end places do not entertain even white people if they go on there own, unit you go with some local thai’s.
Lucky you did not get your self hurt, Thai’s are pretty aggressive when it comes dealing with foreigners / falangs, they would beat the shit of them if you try pick a fight. I did see, 1st hand myself during all these years of travel.
On tearing the notes it is major offence as the notes have there HRM Kings, picture which could have landed with prison sentence. Remember the guy from Chaing Mia who was imprisoned and later HRM gave pardon after spending a few months in jail and he was deported & blacklisted where he can never again step in Thai.
Like other mentioned we just need to go with tide, remember there 1000’s of others who want your money, just relax and enjoy a holiday. BTW my wife is Thai? I met her 2000 and been married for the last 8 yrs. . I still enjoy traveling to the country quite often.
Cheers
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Religious holidays
My recent visit to Pattaya was marred by the authorities heavy-handed imposition of some religious holiday. Thursday was the actual day, and I wasn't surprised to see everything closed down on that day, but this went on through the whole weekend! There were only a few bars sort of half-open, and though I don't drink, I was saddened to see alcohol was banned. Needless to say girls were not in their usual supply, including down on the beach. Just a few here and there, and more pimps and thugs along the beach than girls.
I don't recall this religious weekend being imposed in previous years.
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I wonder what other holidays have similar observance practice. I think the holiday you mention was a religious one. Hopefully, only religious holidays bring out the gestapo. I will be there over Labor Day (May 1).
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[QUOTE=Opebo]My recent visit to Pattaya was marred by the authorities heavy-handed imposition of some religious holiday. Thursday was the actual day, and I wasn't surprised to see everything closed down on that day, but this went on through the whole weekend! There were only a few bars sort of half-open, and though I don't drink, I was saddened to see alcohol was banned. Needless to say girls were not in their usual supply, including down on the beach. Just a few here and there, and more pimps and thugs along the beach than girls.
I don't recall this religious weekend being imposed in previous years.[/QUOTE]
For someone living here, you remain incredibly ignorant of things. The holiday in question was Makka Buchha Day and was only on Thursday. The reason that booze was banned and many places were closed over the weekend had nothing to do with this holiday, but was because of the Senatorial elections. Banning booze for an election that few Thais care about was universally condemned. But, such is the already apparent stupidity of the new puppet regime.
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[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]Think Pattaya isn't dangerous? Check out this news link.
Its both sad and funny as hell. Pattaya is a circus in every aspect. Enjoy.
[url]http://pattayacitynews.net/news_update.html[/url][/QUOTE]I'm deciding whether to stay in Bangkok or Pattaya during my next Thailand visit. Based on all the news reports within the link, Pattaya sounds like a dangerous place and I should probably go to Bangkok instead. Would you all agree?
Thanks for in advance for your advice.
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[QUOTE=Gren62]I'm deciding whether to stay in Bangkok or Pattaya during my next Thailand visit. Based on all the news reports within the link, Pattaya sounds like a dangerous place and I should probably go to Bangkok instead. Would you all agree?
Thanks for in advance for your advice.[/QUOTE]Hi,
No place is dangerous in the wolrd as long as you think with your head & not your dick :) unitl you plan to vist Iraq or Afgan or Pak for holiday or night life.
Thai is perfect place for holiday as long you keep to you self and enjoy your holiday. Posting here I persume you are single male traveling to enjoy the best of the night life.
If your sole aim is to enjoy nightlife, Pattaya wins in this. You get more kick to your $$$ than Bkk. PTY is not at all dangerous as long you think with your head and not with your dick. The sad part is, people who get hurt are those who leave there brains back home and come here.
There are million's people who go and have a nice time, provided you know some of the basics how to go about. Read this forum, it walking history which will tell you how to go about right from the time you step out of plane and put your foot in the "Land of Smiling".
PTY is far less expensive than BKK and you have wide range of nightlife compared to Bkk, right from the go-go bars, beer bars, disco and the hotels.
Just remember that one stray incedient does not mean it is like dangerous place like you step in your either killed, mugged, shot or taken for ride. Like the old saying "One Cocku does not summer".
Enjoy your holiday and if you have any specific question I would be glad to help. I am old hand who travelled across Thai, since 1994 but post very less here befor due to my job pressures working across different time zones.
Enjoy your holiday, and do not just get carried away with a few reportinings, end of the day they are also working. "No Money No Homey" and also do not get carried away with the sweet BG's talk. They love you at the first sight. That is you are walking ATM.
Just leave your heart back home and come. Not your head.
Cheers
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Gren 62,
I travelled to some asia countries the last years and I always felt very save. Specially in Pattaya, there is so much life on the street and if you treat the locals with just a little respect to her culture, than you will have a great time. For me, it is always a perfect comination to stay in both areas. Several days in PTT just for hang around and play with girls, and before leaving to my home I stay 2-3 nights in BKK. Do a little shopping take a soapie and enjoy life. If you like the beach, you maybe should think about a trip to Koh Samet or Koh Chang.
Sam
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[QUOTE=Gren62]I'm deciding whether to stay in Bangkok or Pattaya during my next Thailand visit. Based on all the news reports within the link, Pattaya sounds like a dangerous place and I should probably go to Bangkok instead. Would you all agree?
Thanks for in advance for your advice.[/QUOTE]
No not at all, I have never had any problems in Pattaya I have found the people to be very nice. I have seen one fight in bangkok between two Lady Boys which was funny and two in Pattaya one between twos Bgs and then other between two farangs but the staff in king seafood were great at sorting it out.
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Hi there,
I'm a first time visitor to Pattaya (and Thailand for that matter) and would appreciate some 'localised' advice.
I was walking down Beach Road and spotted a real cutie at the 'Poppy Bar' (almost corner of Soi 7), she seemed to speak English well and at 1000baht LT and 300baht barfine seemed reasonable enough. So we head off, my first question is "so what do you like to do? ". Her reply was "shopping". Err, OK. We stop off at a bar on Soi 7, I ask the usual 'Thai questions'. Family, pets, football and get limited responses. She tells me that she is usually quiet until she has had a few drinks and Guiness is her favourite. So we head over to the Irish bar, whilst there she announces that she is hungary, so we sit down for a meal. A G&T and Guiness later, still no responses. She then tells me that her favourite team (Chelsea) are playing so we head off and watch the game. A couple more G&T's and head to a bar near by hotel; yet more G&T's and hoping this has sufficiently loosened her up. She seems unimpressed by my 800baht pn hotel. OK, shower and down to business, I suggest that she gives me a BJ. She doesn't do that she tells me. How about we try cowgirl? She prefers mish she says. So I bang her as long and hard as I can. We go to sleep and wake up at 9am, she says "I need to go", I say to her "What about morning boom-boom? ". She tells me that boom-boom in the morning costs another 1000baht. I let her shower and leave with 1000baht.
I'd appreciate any advice from Thailand veterans. Is this normal in Thailand? Or did she spot me as a rookie and take me for a ride? Any advice to prevent it happening again?
Can't remember her name, she said that she was 31 and from Northern Thailand. She had a large tattoo of a flower across her stomach.
Will upload a photo in the pictures section (although the photo doesn't do her justice)
I'd also appreciate some advice on the whole 'saving face' thing. I went LT with one girl from a bar. A couple of days later I stopped off for a midday drink at the bar next to the one that I picked up the LT girl (abeit seperated by an alley) and obviously chatted with some of the girls. I then spotted my LT girl stood down the alley, watching me. This probably went on for 10 mins or more until I had to take an urgent phone call and left the bar. I said "Hi" to the LT girl as I walked by, but she didn't respond.
In me drinking in that bar, in full sight of her and her colleagues. Did that result in her 'losing face' big time? Was I doing something completely wrong?
For anyone that's interested, I'm writing a newbie trip report on ignatzmice.
Thanks in advance.
Bb69
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[QUOTE=Leo2000] Like the old saying "One Cocku does not summer".
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I've never heard that old saying. What is the origin?
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An old saying ...
[QUOTE=Gwailo]I've never heard that old saying. What is the origin?[/QUOTE]We have this old saying in Scandinavia too, only here we say something like "One cockoo does not make a summer".
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YUP, Billybob - she played you like a fish on a line
LT is LT (sort of an "all you screw buffet")
Never had one expect "extra" for "boom-boom-chow" (chow is "morning")
as to her losing face - doubt it - you're just another business proposition (besides, she wasn't happy you decided to not part with the extra 1000)
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Billybob it sounds like she wasn't into you. You can reduce your chances of this happening by taking your time in the bars, wait for one to approach you and show interest, instead of you selecting a pretty girl.
Also try kissing (joob joob) them in the bar. If they turn away from you then there is a good chance they could be like your soi 7 girl.
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[QUOTE=Kurtweiler]We have this old saying in Scandinavia too, only here we say something like "One cockoo does not make a summer".[/QUOTE]
But what is a cockoo?
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[QUOTE=Gwailo]But what is a cockoo?[/QUOTE]The spelling in English is cuckoo, a kind of bird. The idiom in English is, "One swallow doesn't make a summer," although too many swallows does make you gay.
Evil
"One swallow doesn't make a summer" means that one instance of something isn't a sure signal of a prevailing trend.
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Who's the Boss?
When it comes to bargirls you've got to be clever. When I was in phuket I picked the most stuck up nasty stuck up ***** I have ever met on soi bangla. Got back with my room both of us pissed up and licked and shagged her and died on the bed. We slept till 12 noon and to be honest I just wasn't that turned on even though she was stunning (before I discovered kamagra, and the effects of having it permanently in your bloodstream)so when the lazy ***** awoke she got up got dressed and demanded without a smile the 2000bt we had agreed for LT. Well I'm a man of my word but the drunken 3am fuck was not LT as far as I'm concerned, so I put it to her that I wanted a blow job before she left with her money which she flatly refused (I said she was a *****, but so sweet) so I thought I'd play her at her own game. I told her she knew where the door was so if she didn't stay a bit longer she wouldn't get the 2000bt that was in my hand, she relunctantly agreed and with a sour face fully dressed got on her knees and worked for her money while I lay on the bed, she had scared the shit out of me in the bar but now I had her in daylight and sober. When I finished I handed her her money and we both laughed I'm sure she enjoyed it and my heart was beating like hell.
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Billybob69
Billybob69 – As an individual whose has resided in Pattaya for four years I will try and answer some of your questions.
The first and most important piece of advice I will give to you or any new comer is to negotiate everything before hand. Tell them what you want and ask them if they will do it and how much everything is going to cost. About 75% of the girls will be truthful with you.
I don’t try to get them to drop their prices from their original quotes since 100% of the fun your going to have is directly related to the girl’s attitude towards you. Thai’s are funny in one way, they fell if they got paid this much the last time then they should always get paid the same every time. And if they don’t get paid the same then they feel cheated. Some girls would rather sit at the bar all night and make nothing than drop their prices even a little, to avoid losing face with the other girls at the bar.
The bar fines for beer bars are 300 for short time and 600 for long time. The girl’s rates are 500 for short time and 1,000 for long time. Long time means they spend the day and night with you and leave in the morning.
As far as taking the girls out to other bars to eat, drink, watch football and have a good time most of them will really appreciate your effort to treat them as a friend you will be reward in many wonderful ways, hopefully. But, be careful, some of these girls really like to drink and get so drunk they are unable to perform the functions we pay them for.
All in all, you did not do so badly for a first timer. And now that you know the rules you will be able to have even more fun.
Good Luck,
Bill
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[QUOTE=Meepmeep99]Cruiser2121,
Well did you fuck her what, what a mug, she took you for a ride and stole valuable holiday time.[/QUOTE]Sure I did and I'd say it all was worth the trouble after all as I finally got her under controll. It could have easily turned into waste of time though, had I made mistakes.
Glad I sticked to my rules:
1. Never leave her out of sight for long, every time ask where she goes and come to controll the situation.
2. Once she is guilty of "getting lost", use it as excuse to refuse her next attempts.
3. Keep her in right mood by flirting and kissing to be instantly alerted by any change of mood or attitude.
4. Don't let her make important decisions like me taking another girl instead of her.
5. Threaten to complain to her boss if she's going too far.
6. Once she attempted to get out of reach and you grabed her under controll again, time to make an end and get straight to your room.
If anybody more experienced has other rules to add here, will be most welcome!
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Billybob69 – As an individual whose has resided in Pattaya for four years I will try and answer some of your questions.
The bar fines for beer bars are 300 for short time and 600 for long time. The girl’s rates are 500 for short time and 1,000 for long time. Long time means they spend the day and night with you and leave in the morning.
Good Luck,Bill[/QUOTE]Beer bars that quote a different barfines for LT or ST???Until now I've seen that only in soi 6 (250/300 ST and 500 LT, which can be 1000 if BF is payed early in the day).
Other beer bars usually have one price (200/300 bath) independently if you take the girl for LT or ST.
The USUAL rates are the one you posted, but some girl could be asking/expecting more.
And what a LT means to the girls is not an exact sience!
That's what I know and have seen until now, although I did not lived there for 4 years
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Questions galore
guys,
i understand that beer bar girls are 300b barfine (st) and 500b barfine (lt).
a) what about go-go girls. what's their st vs. lt rates (misty's, silver star, the classroom)?
b) which are the top 3 go-go bars to go to? (i have always been intrigued by the aforementioned 3 due to their glossy websites)
c) also, at go-go bars, do you have to drink? can you just go in, and speak to a mamasan and take out right away without having pumped any $ into the bar?
d) i've been told that there are bj bars in pattaya (like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in bkk). where can i find these bj bars?
e) which massage parlors (with fishbowl) are highly recommended here?
thanks in advance boys!
m2
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Thai girls drink?
In response to Bill Miami's warning about Thai girls drinking too much I have often wished to meet a Thai girl who will have a drink, the ones I have met usually just stick to orange or coke and when I have splashed out on a bottle of wine they usually just have a sip. I have tried to get a few Thai girls drunk to see if they are more game in bed but I have only succeeded once most are like the Chinese and avoid alcohol.
may the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Cruiser2121]Sure I did and I'd say it all was worth the trouble after all as I finally got her under controll. It could have easily turned into waste of time though, had I made mistakes.
Glad I sticked to my rules:
1. Never leave her out of sight for long, every time ask where she goes and come to controll the situation.
2. Once she is guilty of "getting lost", use it as excuse to refuse her next attempts.
3. Keep her in right mood by flirting and kissing to be instantly alerted by any change of mood or attitude.
4. Don't let her make important decisions like me taking another girl instead of her.
5. Threaten to complain to her boss if she's going too far.
6. Once she attempted to get out of reach and you grabed her under controll again, time to make an end and get straight to your room.
If anybody more experienced has other rules to add here, will be most welcome![/QUOTE]I'm glad to here you got her in the sack in the end.I remember reading your report and thinking,this guys gonna get dragged all over town until she's drunk and too tired to do anything. It happened to me once and never again. I have my night with a girl in the bar she works and take her straight from the bar to the hotel, every girl i take is what is left at the end of the night that way there asking you as opposed to you asking them,so you don't get any stupid prices.
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Soi 8 Area vs. Walking Street
Greetings.
I'll be visiting Pattaya for the first time in May and would like to know whether I should stay near the Soi 8/bar area or Walking Street where the go-go bars seem to be.
In Bangkok, I noticed the go-go dancers were generally prettier than bar girls. Is that true in Pattaya?
Lastly, is it easy to travel between the Soi 8 area and Walking Street?
Thanks in advance and much gratitude for Leo2000's stellar response to my prior post which ultimately made me choose Pattaya.
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Soi 8
[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings.
I'll be visiting Pattaya for the first time in May and would like to know whether I should stay near the Soi 8/bar area or Walking Street where the go-go bars seem to be.
In Bangkok, I noticed the go-go dancers were generally prettier than bar girls. Is that true in Pattaya?
Lastly, is it easy to travel between the Soi 8 area and Walking Street?
Thanks in advance and much gratitude for Leo2000's stellar response to my prior post which ultimately made me choose Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Definitely stay on Soi 8. Only cost 10 B to catch ride down to Walking Street. There are a couple of good hotels right on Soi 8. I usually stay at Sunshine 1200-1600B but cheaper 850B at 2 hotels that run down street in front of Sunshine between Soi 7 and Soi 8. My mind is blank right now and do not have cards with me but one is a British place (Pig and Whistle?) and other is something like AFN. Can not miss if you just take road from front of Sunshine on Soi 8 to Soi 7. If you really need I can look up for you and send.
Soi 7 and 8 are right next to each other. There are several go go bars there. The one next to Beach road on Soi 7 has a jacuzzi show. Run by a younger mammasan from Bangkok that is real funny and lot of fun. Girl cost ST 1000 B plus bar fine 600B. The biggest problem with go go bars the bar fine is usually always 600B plus cost of girl plus drinks and if LT then add food cost. Then problem getting them to leave in morning. Always have an exit plan ie. "I need to leave for tour so leave." If not they want to keep you on string making money. Remember you are the ATM machine so you run the show. Also if you are wanting anything in particular agree in advance. Do not get to room and then get turned down for anything but straight sex.
Personally I think Walking Street is turning kind of boring and lots of ladyboys.
If you want something quick and easy hit Lollita's for a qucik BBBJ for 700B. They are located on street behind Mike's mall. For price kind of takes the urgency off you.
And for whatever it is worth part - always kiss the girl before you bar fine. I have found if there is no real response or passion it will be the same in the room.
Try to change your thinking from how you think back home. A lot of these girls are lucky to get a ST or LT 4-6 times in one month. The less effort you put into it the better you will do and less it will cost. Not like back home where you have to wine, dine, and beg to get anything.
Read some of my previous posts may help out.
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Being an Indian in LOS
Hi Everybody,
Sorry to keep the racial agenda ON but had a few thoughts which I did want to share. The original post is in Bangkok section since the information I felt was centred more around Bangkok then Pattaya. Hope I am not disturbing anyone or wasting there time. If I am, you can always choose not to read it anyways.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=713328&postcount=1561[/url]
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[quote=billybob69] i let her shower and leave with 1000baht.
i said "hi" to the lt girl as i walked by, but she didn't respond.
in me drinking in that bar, in full sight of her and her colleagues. did that result in her 'losing face' big time? was i doing something completely wrong?
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if you'd agreed on 2000 lt but then ended up giving her 1000 in the morning, i'd say the non-response was because she wanted to give you the message that she saw that as you reneging on the deal, cheating her of her rightfully earned 2000. so now you're a bad man. don't get me wrong. of course you're right that 2000 was for more than one go. and she knows that too. but the unfriendliness is part of maintaining her position that you crossed her.
i have some experience in thailand, not nearly as much as a lot of people here. but i've had plenty of experiences like that, of one variety or another. it does seem to me that the girl is doing it because she thinks i'm new at this and don't know better. if you think about it, they probably get lots of customers in that category, maybe enough for them to use scamming strategies like that pretty standardly. they're probably successful with it often enough to try to use it as much as possible, if they sense it might work.
a friend of mine said he would talk to the girl beforehand, and say ok if you leave at 7am, you get this much. if you leave at 3am, only this much, at 1am this much. this way if she tried to pull something, he'd be able to say ok then you only want this much, that's what we agreed on. i guess you could also talk to the girl earlier about what lt means exactly -- like can you go as many times as you want, or does it mean just twice, or what. it certainly doesn't ever mean just once, so just by asking that question, you'll get the girl to confirm that you'll get more than once. otherwise they can stand there in the morning and claim that lt means until the morning regardless how many times you had. and they will have had practice perfecting that speech, and all the attitude and gestures that go along with it.
i'd say you did about the best you could in that situation. you got out of it for just 1000, and the girl's act has conveniently served to cut the cord for good, another big plus for you. think how lousy you'd feel after a few more nights like that. that happened to me once, a girl i was stupidly into, kept having unfulfilling nights with her which got worse and worse. every time i figured out how to close the escape routes she'd used the last time, she'd come up with new unexpected ones the next time. and every time i'd see her, i couldn't resist taking her again, and she also couldn't resist the chance to take me again.
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[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings.
I'll be visiting Pattaya for the first time in May and would like to know whether I should stay near the Soi 8/bar area or Walking Street where the go-go bars seem to be.
In Bangkok, I noticed the go-go dancers were generally prettier than bar girls. Is that true in Pattaya?
Lastly, is it easy to travel between the Soi 8 area and Walking Street?
Thanks in advance and much gratitude for Leo2000's stellar response to my prior post which ultimately made me choose Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
I always stay at the Flipper House on soi 7 and have never had any problems. The only thing lacking is an in-room safe, but they have safes at the front desk.
[url]http://flippergroup.com/flipper_house/index.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings.
I'll be visiting Pattaya for the first time in May and would like to know whether I should stay near the Soi 8/bar area or Walking Street where the go-go bars seem to be.
In Bangkok, I noticed the go-go dancers were generally prettier than bar girls. Is that true in Pattaya?
Lastly, is it easy to travel between the Soi 8 area and Walking Street?
Thanks in advance and much gratitude for Leo2000's stellar response to my prior post which ultimately made me choose Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
May is low season so you can pick and choose rooms, however FLIPPER HOUSE is very popular and often booked-up even in low season, they do have a great, rooftop pool. There are several hotels that are part of the EASTINY chain, also with pools, on soi's 7 & 8 They are clean, well appointed and reasonably priced.
Transportation to Walking St is by an endless chain of "sawngtaows" travelling the loop of Beech Rd./2nd Rd.: ten Baht.
If you want to stay close to Walking Street, The P72 HOTEL is directly across from LUCIFER'S DISCO, has decent rooms in the old wing for B600-800 and deluxe rooms in a brand new wing for B1200-1500. For some reason they don't have a website. Tel: 03 842 9291
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[quote=wendella]if you'd agreed on 2000 lt but then ended up giving her 1000 in the morning, i'd say the non-response was because she wanted to give you the message that she saw that as you reneging on the deal, cheating her of her rightfully earned 2000. so now you're a bad man. don't get me wrong. of course you're right that 2000 was for more than one go. and she knows that too. but the unfriendliness is part of maintaining her position that you crossed her.
i have some experience in thailand, not nearly as much as a lot of people here. but i've had plenty of experiences like that, of one variety or another. it does seem to me that the girl is doing it because she thinks i'm new at this and don't know better. if you think about it, they probably get lots of customers in that category, maybe enough for them to use scamming strategies like that pretty standardly. they're probably successful with it often enough to try to use it as much as possible, if they sense it might work.
a friend of mine said he would talk to the girl beforehand, and say ok if you leave at 7am, you get this much. if you leave at 3am, only this much, at 1am this much. this way if she tried to pull something, he'd be able to say ok then you only want this much, that's what we agreed on. i guess you could also talk to the girl earlier about what lt means exactly -- like can you go as many times as you want, or does it mean just twice, or what. it certainly doesn't ever mean just once, so just by asking that question, you'll get the girl to confirm that you'll get more than once. otherwise they can stand there in the morning and claim that lt means until the morning regardless how many times you had. and they will have had practice perfecting that speech, and all the attitude and gestures that go along with it.
i'd say you did about the best you could in that situation. you got out of it for just 1000, and the girl's act has conveniently served to cut the cord for good, another big plus for you. think how lousy you'd feel after a few more nights like that. that happened to me once, a girl i was stupidly into, kept having unfulfilling nights with her which got worse and worse. every time i figured out how to close the escape routes she'd used the last time, she'd come up with new unexpected ones the next time. and every time i'd see her, i couldn't resist taking her again, and she also couldn't resist the chance to take me again.[/quote]
this is a good post wendella, with some good tips about how to arrange a lt with a girl about whom a punter has doubts.
your last paragraph creates a whole other discussion about treatment of thai prostitutes. we disagreed in the past about the, admittedly, rather extreme 'fake gold honesty test' presented by another poster. but how much slack should we cut for a girl who presses some of the right buttons? and how tactful and polite should we be when we've decided to move on?
my first trip to thailand, about four years ago, presented me with some of these difficulties: my first ever thailand pickup (an absolute stunner from nana's rainbow 3) left at about five or six in the morning without offering a second pop, but i was jetlagged at the time, so couldn't have cared less. how would i have reacted without the jetlag? i've often thought about this. i barfined several girls subsequently from nana plaza (i was staying just around the corner at majestic suites) and had one [i]fairly[/i] bad experience with a girl who had a very pretty face and great tits. i paid the bf after about a minute of talking with her and took her over the road to nana hotel's golden beer bar. it very quickly became apparent that she didn't like me to the extent that she wasn't trying in the slightest to disguise the fact. i was quite shocked by her behaviour, told her as much, and told her to go home. (i wrote a report about this in the 2004 thread.)
i've not had a similar situation arise since, but i think i would be less confrontational should it happen again. i think i would probably pretend to take a call about a serious family crisis etc, etc, 'here's a few hundred baht, velly sollee. goot luck, blah blah'. anybody got any other opinions?
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[QUOTE=Leo2000]Hi,
No place is dangerous in the wolrd as long as you think with your head & not your dick :) unitl you plan to vist Iraq or Afgan or Pak for holiday or night life.
Thai is perfect place for holiday as long you keep to you self and enjoy your holiday. Posting here I persume you are single male traveling to enjoy the best of the night life.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Leo & Gren62
Leo your advice to Gren62 is somewhat blasé, there are more foreigners leaving Pattaya in body bags than the Thai government would have you think!
One doesn’t have to look back too far & see when the last mugging or robbery went sour.
Not to mention the road accidents, unsafe airlines, bombings, unsanitary food /hygiene, drugging, kidnapping or the odd coup just around the corner.
Thailand may have been perfect 15 years ago but things have changed – Stay alert.
Leo you can probably add southern Thailand to your list at the beginning with Iraq, Afghanistan & Pakistan.
Willo
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]
I've not had a similar situation arise since, but I think I would be less confrontational should it happen again. I think I would probably pretend to take a call about a serious family crisis etc, etc, 'Here's a few hundred baht, velly sollee. Goot luck, blah blah'. Anybody got any other opinions?[/QUOTE]Your right about not being confrontational, I had problems with lots of lazy girls in hua hin and threw easy 10 of them out on my last stay there. In the end I decided to not bar fine anyone and just picked up girls walking back from working at various bars. I found that some girls would just wanna get barfined. I could never judge whether they just wanted to get bar fined and then it was down hill from then on. I did used to get confrontational but never again, they'll spread loads of shit about you if you upset 'them, this time I'm going to be cool as a cucumber and make it my business to see if I can palm off the most horrible of leaches who pester me for a drink nicely and without telling them to xxxx right off! It's war! Thats why I love the beergarden and thermae and Bangkok, there workers and have there heads screwed on, no money no eat and I kinda respect that. Ok you've got have your wits about you in those places but I had stuff stolen from my bags by the room cleaners at my last hotel in Bangkok so it goes to show it don't matter who the person is theres a chance you could be robbed, the only other time I was robbed was by a bargirl I had barfined and I caught her red handed with money from my wallet hidden underneath her bag on the table in my room, after I had fucked her she had to pick her bag up, I must of disturbed her as I came back from my shower and she didn't have time to bag it, it was the exact same bunch of folded notes I had received in change from the chek bin at her bar. Them little terrors eh! Anybody got any good stories about being robbed blind, because this wasn't one.
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]how much slack should we cut for a girl who presses some of the right buttons? And how tactful and polite should we be when we've decided to move on?
I've not had a similar situation arise since, but I think I would be less confrontational should it happen again. I think I would probably pretend to take a call about a serious family crisis etc, etc, 'Here's a few hundred baht, velly sollee. Goot luck, blah blah'. Anybody got any other opinions?[/QUOTE]
I'd be tempted in that last Nana situation you told, to just cut her loose without paying anything -- she can just walk across the street to her bar and get back onstage, so it's not like she's lost anything. But yes, then there is the social situation and also the fact that you may want to return to that bar later and be able to pick someone up there, not be labeled as the Farang from Hell. Then again, if a girl is that blatant, the other girls must realize she plays the prima donna act, and wouldn't take her too seriously.
I guess the way I'd handle it also would depend on how eager she seemed in the bar. If it seemed like she was aloof and just agreeing to it without any enthusiasm, then I'd cut her some slack because she probably was going along with a deal she wasn't too keen on. I've also had the opposite, a girl who was very seductive before (Angel Disco) return to the hotel to turn into a rudely aloof corpse, making it clear this whole thing was completely tedious to her. (That was back in 2003, and I see she STILL works there. Saw her in Nana parking lot at 2am one night. And I'd seen this same girl there in 2001! She always wears a bob hair cut, usually bleached a bit, nice face -- from Laos, and says she was once in some Thai film as an actress)
On this past trip, I went to Rainbow 4 and was approached (when leaving the men's room) by a girl I'd had my eye on for a few visits -- she's the tall and thin one. There are a few like that there, but she's the distinctly tallest and thinnest. Anyway, she said Hi, what's your name. I asked her if she wanted a drink. She came over to my table and pretty soon cut to the offer,which was for ST only and only upstairs. LT? No, can not. Well, within a few minutes we were upstairs and about a minute after that we were getting dressed again to go our separate ways. I think we had sex but it all went so fast I wasn't completely sure. My condom was filled, so I guess we did. Anyway, the fastest 2000 baht I ever spent.
The next night she spotted me outside (she was done working early I guess) and asked me if I'd buy her a stuffed animal from a vendor. I giggled and said oh no, sorry.
The next night I went back to Nana and hit a few different bars, not being too enthused about anything I was seeing. I decided to go back to RB4 and see if anything else there caught my eye. Well, she was dancing right on stage just inside the door, spotted me the second I stepped inside and made eye contact. She immediately came down off the stage and over to me, wedged herself between my legs and put my arms around her. (she took MY arms and placed them around her, I mean) She was being about as warm as I've seen any girl behave in that bar. After a few minutes tonight's offer came: I go to your hotel. "OH, I thought you can not?" Well, she can. I ask if she can go LT? "No, ST." "Oh, well, hm, I don't know." Then we start negotiating time, she says until 12 (it's 10pm now), and I'm not too interested in that. Then she says ok until 2am for 3000. At this point a mini-mamasan comes over and inserts herself into the negotiation -- She says 5am is LT, she can go until 5am. A bit weird that this one has taken over like this, but I go along with it and the deal is made at 3000 until 5am.
So, we go back to the hotel. We get in bed and as we proceed, she seems to be rushed and I say "I like slow." to which she says she doesn't like slow. Grrr. Anyway, this time I take more control and keep the pace at my own. Eventually we get to the main deal and finish up. At that point she got under the covers and turned on tv, while I relaxed next to her and then dozed off. Awhile later, maybe 45 minutes? she says ok she wants to go now. "You sleep, I go." It's about 12. Now I'm sleepy and not exactly desiring another go this second, so I say OK but you go now only 2000. She says 3000. I tell her that was if she stayed until 5 o'clock. She then said "no, not 5 o'clock, five HOURS" -- Uh, well, its now just 2 hrs later. So knowing that her ST fee is 2000, I just say OK I pay you 2500, ok? She frowned (!!!!) and agreed. She made some remark about how now she would have to go back and work in the bar again to make enough to pay her tuition fee tomorrow (between the lines: that's my fault). I said, "oh, ok" in a nice way, still friendly in tone. She seemed slightly displeased but still polite-friendly. And then she left. I'm sure she ended up getting her next customer and 'made her tuition'. The compromise felt like the only one that was going to be peaceable on both sides. Any less and she would have been pissed off, any more and I would have been.
Now the problem with a girl like this one is that if it's 10pm and you want LT, she knows she can finish you in less than 2 hrs at 2000baht ST (or in my case, 4 minutes), and then get another customer after you for 2000ST again, or even for 3000-4000 for LT. So it's absolutely not in her economic interest to do LT at 10pm. Of course she has to be pretty sure she can get the next customer if she goes back, and I'd say for this one that would be a pretty safe bet. She looked much more like a Japanese girl than a Thai. So in my situation, after we'd done it the first time, now she was looking at having to stick around my hotel for 4-6 more hours for just 1000 baht more, missing out on lots more money to be made back at her bar. Not going to happen. And I can't really blame her. If that mini-mam hadn't jumped in (forcing a deal on us that was more favorable to me than the girl wanted to give), I might have been able to work out a good deal with her -- for less than LT but longer than ST, which may have worked. Then again, it may have been inevitable that she would have pulled that move after the first go.
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Waitresses
A few times I found myself in go go bars that had a waitress or 2 who were hotter than the girls onstage. One was Hollywood Carousel on the top floor of Nana -- there's one tall thin one there who's the hottest girl in the place by a safe distance. What's the deal with those? I mean, I'd think if she was available, she'd be up on stage. It seems like if you work as a waitress, a lot of guys will presume you're not available, so you'd get fewer offers.
In another club at Soi Cowboy called Spice Girls there was another one who caught my eye - and in that club the waitresses wore numbers just like the girls onstage, which kind of gave me the idea they would be availalble.
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Bar closed
Yesterday my actual LT girl told me that all bars are closed. I didn't checkt at walking street or soi 2/6/7/8 but around Royal Garden Plaza the most bars were closed, or at least no music played and no alcohol were sold.
Today it should be the same. Can someone cofirm that?
Well for sex, it doesn't matter for me, since I have that girl from Bangkok. She worked usually in Hong Kong, met her in Tunnel disco in Bangkok. Also, other mongers will not starve too much, I guess. Since at the beach road were still alot of girls.
But, it's a bit boring not to go out to bars and discos and just stay at restaurants and inside the Hotel.
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Bar Closed
March 2 elections.
Hopefully Labor Day - May 1 - won't be the same deal.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]The next night I went back to Nana and hit a few different bars, not being too enthused about anything I was seeing. I decided to go back to RB4 and see if anything else there caught my eye. Well, she was dancing right on stage just inside the door, spotted me the second I stepped inside and made eye contact. She immediately came down off the stage and over to me, wedged herself between my legs and put my arms around her. (she took MY arms and placed them around her, I mean) She was being about as warm as I've seen any girl behave in that bar. After a few minutes tonight's offer came: I go to your hotel. "OH, I thought you can not?" Well, she can. I ask if she can go LT? "No, ST." "Oh, well, hm, I don't know." Then we start negotiating time, she says until 12 (it's 10pm now), and I'm not too interested in that. Then she says ok until 2am for 3000. At this point a mini-mamasan comes over and inserts herself into the negotiation -- She says 5am is LT, she can go until 5am. A bit weird that this one has taken over like this, but I go along with it and the deal is made at 3000 until 5am.
So, we go back to the hotel. We get in bed and as we proceed, she seems to be rushed and I say "I like slow." to which she says she doesn't like slow. Grrr. Anyway, this time I take more control and keep the pace at my own. Eventually we get to the main deal and finish up. At that point she got under the covers and turned on tv, while I relaxed next to her and then dozed off. Awhile later, maybe 45 minutes? she says ok she wants to go now. "You sleep, I go." It's about 12. Now I'm sleepy and not exactly desiring another go this second, so I say OK but you go now only 2000. She says 3000. I tell her that was if she stayed until 5 o'clock. She then said "no, not 5 o'clock, five HOURS" -- Uh, well, its now just 2 hrs later. So knowing that her ST fee is 2000, I just say OK I pay you 2500, ok? She frowned (!!!!) and agreed. She made some remark about how now she would have to go back and work in the bar again to make enough to pay her tuition fee tomorrow (between the lines: that's my fault). I said, "oh, ok" in a nice way, still friendly in tone. She seemed slightly displeased but still polite-friendly. And then she left. I'm sure she ended up getting her next customer and 'made her tuition'. The compromise felt like the only one that was going to be peaceable on both sides. Any less and she would have been pissed off, any more and I would have been.
Now the problem with a girl like this one is that if it's 10pm and you want LT, she knows she can finish you in less than 2 hrs at 2000baht ST (or in my case, 4 minutes), and then get another customer after you for 2000ST again, or even for 3000-4000 for LT. So it's absolutely not in her economic interest to do LT at 10pm. Of course she has to be pretty sure she can get the next customer if she goes back, and I'd say for this one that would be a pretty safe bet. She looked much more like a Japanese girl than a Thai. So in my situation, after we'd done it the first time, now she was looking at having to stick around my hotel for 4-6 more hours for just 1000 baht more, missing out on lots more money to be made back at her bar. Not going to happen. And I can't really blame her. If that mini-mam hadn't jumped in (forcing a deal on us that was more favorable to me than the girl wanted to give), I might have been able to work out a good deal with her -- for less than LT but longer than ST, which may have worked. Then again, it may have been inevitable that she would have pulled that move after the first go.[/QUOTE]I would have told her here's your short time rate, now if you want to go go to the go-go, go and thanks for the saved money. Although all the factors you have mentioned about this girl add up to her being a ladyboy. Tall and thin works in rainbow 4, aggressive, gives bad service and won't take no for answer. No offence meant but I'm sure others will agree that rainbow is 50% ladyboy sometimes.
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Yes all bars are closed due to National Elections, until midnight sunday march 2nd.
They're closed because no alcohol can be served.
But personally, I find this is great because the girls are waiting everywhere for you, including the bars, where they just sit around in the dark waiting for farangs to show up with offers!
It's great. You pay nothing on drinks and just cut to the chase!
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Smoking ban
Can anyone in Pattaya report on the smoking ban that came into affect on 11th Feb. i have heard that some bars are enforcing it now and other are waiting until the law is to be enforced with fines on june 1st.
I'm looking forward to going back and not having to move around the bar every time someone sparks up!
It works well in the civilized world, I see no reason why it cant work in Thailand!
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[QUOTE=Meepmeep99]No offence meant but I'm sure others will agree that rainbow is 50% ladyboy sometimes.[/QUOTE]
There's only one way to find out for sure, and I have no doubt of your certainty about this. ;-)
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Smoking forbidden
my information is that smoking (cigarettes, cigars and pipe) isn’t allowed from now in all bars and restaurants. separate rooms for smokers are not allowed. there is a short transitional period until the end of april. from 1st of may you have to pay round about 2000 baht, if they snap you. the owner of the bar has to pay about 20.000 baht. if they control.
i hope, the system works like the traffic control. if you call for a traffic ticket from the police, after they have stopped your car or bike, you pay 500 baht. without ticket it is 200 baht.
so better go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s or pump station and let smoke. you have a better consideration for your money.
enjoy your life.
lemon tree
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]... If you call for a traffic ticket from the police, after they have stopped your car or bike, you pay 500 Baht. Without ticket it is 200 Baht...[/QUOTE]
Unless the BIB charge more in Pattaya than Bangkok i think you're being overcharged for your ticket ! It's 300 baht for a ticket in Bangkok, you must surrender your driving license, or a photocopy is fine if you have one, they will issue you a ticket, which you can pay at the post office within a certain timeframe, the driving license you despoited is then posted back to your home address after they see the payment has been made. I find it huighly amusing when police stop and tell you it's 500 baht to be on your way, i go for the 300 baht ticket everytime, in most cases the BIB can't be bothered and just give up on anything !
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Soi 8
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]Definitely stay on Soi 8. Only cost 10 B to catch ride down to Walking Street. There are a couple of good hotels right on Soi 8. I usually stay at Sunshine 1200-1600B but cheaper 850B at 2 hotels that run down street in front of Sunshine between Soi 7 and Soi 8. My mind is blank right now and do not have cards with me but one is a British place (Pig and Whistle?) and other is something like AFN. Can not miss if you just take road from front of Sunshine on Soi 8 to Soi 7. If you really need I can look up for you and send.
Soi 7 and 8 are right next to each other. There are several go go bars there. The one next to Beach road on Soi 7 has a jacuzzi show. Run by a younger mammasan from Bangkok that is real funny and lot of fun. Girl cost ST 1000 B plus bar fine 600B. The biggest problem with go go bars the bar fine is usually always 600B plus cost of girl plus drinks and if LT then add food cost. Then problem getting them to leave in morning. Always have an exit plan ie. "I need to leave for tour so leave." If not they want to keep you on string making money. Remember you are the ATM machine so you run the show. Also if you are wanting anything in particular agree in advance. Do not get to room and then get turned down for anything but straight sex.
Personally I think Walking Street is turning kind of boring and lots of ladyboys.
If you want something quick and easy hit Lollita's for a qucik BBBJ for 700B. They are located on street behind Mike's mall. For price kind of takes the urgency off you.
And for whatever it is worth part - always kiss the girl before you bar fine. I have found if there is no real response or passion it will be the same in the room.
Try to change your thinking from how you think back home. A lot of these girls are lucky to get a ST or LT 4-6 times in one month. The less effort you put into it the better you will do and less it will cost. Not like back home where you have to wine, dine, and beg to get anything.
Read some of my previous posts may help out.[/QUOTE]
I really should have included this info in my first response. In the day time Walking Street smells like a sewer. Have been through a number of times in day and just plain disgusting. Most of fun bars closed until later. Cheap food further apart. Better to just visit it at night and get away during the day. At night kind of fun due to all of the lighting. Kind of reminds me of Bourbon St in New Orleans (or what it use to be like before Katrina) in the sense that fun to go to at night to hear music and be part of crowds. Day time lot better off in Soi 8 area. No matter where you stay figure on catching a few rides per day.
Pulled a few cards:
Pig & Whistle 850 B Soi 7/8
Sunshine 1200B Soi 8
Bella Vista Soi 7 980B
Flipper Soi 8 1100 B
Easting Soi 8 1600 B (looks like about 6 mos old very upscale)
Apex Hotel Soi 216/11 500B
Opey De Place 700b (by Hell Club & Lollita's)
New Nikon Court 700B (by Hell Club & Lollita's) 312/90 M.9 Soi Lengkee
Both of the one's by Lollita's looke nice and clean.
Honey Inn 800B 529/2 Soi 11 Pattaya 2nd RD
Anyway hope helps. These were a few of cards I picked up last visit. All seemed okay by my standars from outside. Prices were what I was quotedin 12/2007
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Great hotel list! I would like to add Charlie Place, corner of Soi Dianna and Soi Bakaw 900b. Beg to differ but a friend of mine stayed at Opey De Place this Dec/Jan 900b.
Cactus J
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Out of curiosity, Why walking street is called walking street..its obvious, that people walk on the walking street..which gives away any secrets it holds :).
Is there anything else on the walking street or people just walk around here and there..
Was there any Discovery like newfoundland or new england or a British expat just walked onto pattaya and said wow..this steet is nice..lets name it walking street or its named after his demise and the bar girls named it after him as the greatest monger of all time.....Mr James Walking :D
The name is tooo simple and does not convene what history walking street hold ;)
It should be re-named as a tribute to all ISG members as Mongers Lane or Buddha's bite or Angels Path Way or something Thai That..:)
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[QUOTE=Gren62]I'm deciding whether to stay in Bangkok or Pattaya during my next Thailand visit. Based on all the news reports within the link, Pattaya sounds like a dangerous place and I should probably go to Bangkok instead. Would you all agree?
Thanks for in advance for your advice.[/QUOTE]I don't believe everything I read as somethings are blown out of proportion
ie Grenades guns and fists used in a fight but no report on fatalities seems to me that's BS.
Some ways to stay safe or at least prevent the chances of trouble
1. Don't ride motorbikes esp when drunk
2. Don't flash big cash only bring out enough for the night.
3. Don't flash gold or expensive watches
4. Keep to weel lit areas (standard safety precation in any city)
5. Don't walk beachside of Beach Rd late at night.
6. Don't go looking for trouble, or you will find it.
7. Don't get shitfaced falling down drunk you are making a target of yourself.
8. If you decide to ignore No'7 do it within staggering distance of your hotel.
9.Keep cool be nice and pull your head in.
10. If there is any confrontation turn and walk away.
11. use your hotels safety deposit.
I'm sure others would have more ideas but I think you get the picture, so I'll get off my soapbox now.
Just be aware of your surroundings and any situations that may develope near or around you.
Oh yes I nearly forgot don't get involved if it's none of tou business keep out of it.
One more thing have a great time I will and will be there next week
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Walking Street,
Might be because during the day, the street is available to vehicles and traffic of all kinds from Beach Road. Then at night it is blocked off and only available for walking foot traffic. There you might have it! WALKING STREET!
LBM
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Go ahead and stay in grungthep - that's one less to deal with in Pattaya. :)
In all honesty, Pattaya isn't any better or any WORSE than most other places with similar populations. it IS, of course, essentially wall-to-wall available "poo-ying" - with a more "affordable" price structure than grungthep
"Bai nai, khon sooay krup?" Bai doo-ay luh krup?
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T-Minue 34 days...
Hi All,
Glad to hear you guys have been keeping the water warm for me upon my return. Just a quick question to those converting their weary dollar to baht - how are the in-country exchange rates treating you? We're looking at 29 to 31 baht on the dollar for exchange in the states. Is it any better in the LOS? We need every baht we can get.
See you all soon and remember NOT to behave. Slap some asses tonight for me.
J Ride.
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Greetings all.
As a Pattaya first-timer, I'm trying to narrow down my hotel options with the following criteria:
1. Around 1, 000 baht/day
2. In-room safe (preferred, but not a must)
3. Shower is western-style (I. E. Not just a shower hose over the toilet and spraying everywhere)
4. Bed is actually one piece and not two small beds pushed together
5. Located near Soi 8 bar area (I wouldn't want to be wandering too much while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk in a new, strange, yet incredible place! )
I've searched this forum rather thoroughly for such a hotel, but couldn't find a place that met all criteria. Flipper House seemed perfect, but then read they push 2 single beds to make a queen size. That seemed like an uncomfortably bad idea, especially since I intend to use that bed to its fullest!
Many thanks in advance for everyone's help. Also, much gratitude to Mai Yao, Gwailo and especially RetiredForever for guiding this newbie. If you guys are there in May, I'm buying you a beer!
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Dropping every day
[QUOTE=J Ride]Hi All,
Glad to hear you guys have been keeping the water warm for me upon my return. Just a quick question to those converting their weary dollar to baht - how are the in-country exchange rates treating you? We're looking at 29 to 31 baht on the dollar for exchange in the states. Is it any better in the LOS? We need every baht we can get.
See you all soon and remember NOT to behave. Slap some asses tonight for me.
J Ride.[/QUOTE]J ride,
I was in thailand a month ago was getting 32 bht to a dollar but USD is dropping everyday who know in 34 days what it will be ,I sold some of my gold on my last trip still got about 20,000 bht left over for next trip and 2 more gold chain hope gold will be over 1200 a oz on my next trip ,I buy all my gold at chinatown in bangkok the shop will buy it back at market price it was about 900 bht a gram a month ago .
Fast edddie 48
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Just got back
Hello Gents!
Just got back from Pattaya today. I spent about 8 days there and all I can say is "holy sh*t!"...this is the real fu#king deal. The LOS makes Vegas look like kindergarten. This board has tons of great info. I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort for a few days. The place is clean, rooms are spacious, and of course, most importantly girl friendly. I then tried the white condotel for a few days..this placed rocked too! I did'nt even get to see the whole town and so, that means a return trip in a few months.
Be street smart...don't wear flashy jewelry. The first things the Thais do is look at your watch if you are wearing one and then your shoes...they are trying to size you up. Overall, the place is pretty safe, especially when you consider ALL of the tourists that are there from all over the world. Be careful crossing the street though.
If you have questions just fire away. The Baht averaged 31 for the days that I was there and you can haggle on prices, even in the mall!
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for "in country" exchange rates read "bangkokpost.com" It's on their front page about 1/2 way down (about 31.5)
Thanks to that magnificent ass-hole of a president...
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Pig & whisle soi 7
Will not give you the normal BS line RTFF as I know what it is like when new to the game, even though this hotel was mentioned by RFE a few threads ago!
Best choice is above hotel meet all your requirements except No 1 price is 850bth per night!
Only problem is they do not have wi-fi and the owner is absolutely dead against getting it!
I would stay there every time but I need wifi.
Also girl friendly which I think you will find important!
Hotel is very well presented in decor, and is run more on a guest house basis giving a more personal touch, unlike the flipper houses hotels.
[url]http://www.pigandwhistlepattaya.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings all.
As a Pattaya first-timer, I'm trying to narrow down my hotel options with the following criteria:
1. Around 1, 000 baht/day
2. In-room safe (preferred, but not a must)
3. Shower is western-style (I. E. Not just a shower hose over the toilet and spraying everywhere)
4. Bed is actually one piece and not two small beds pushed together
5. Located near Soi 8 bar area (I wouldn't want to be wandering too much while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk in a new, strange, yet incredible place! )
I've searched this forum rather thoroughly for such a hotel, but couldn't find a place that met all criteria. Flipper House seemed perfect, but then read they push 2 single beds to make a queen size. That seemed like an uncomfortably bad idea, especially since I intend to use that bed to its fullest!
Many thanks in advance for everyone's help. Also, much gratitude to Mai Yao, Gwailo and especially RetiredForever for guiding this newbie. If you guys are there in May, I'm buying you a beer![/QUOTE]
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ISG Meeting in Pattaya March 21st, 2008
Any ISG members in Pattaya are welcome to join a few of us on Friday, March 21st at Kiss Cool on Soi 6. Maybe about 3 p.m. in the afternoon would be a good time to start. Just some time to hang out, have a couple drinks and share tips/stories about Thailand.
To those not familiar with Soi 6, get off the baht bus on the corner of Soi 6 and 2nd Road. Walk about 2/3 of the way down the street and KISS COOL is on the right hand side. Nice place. PM and post here if interested. Photos and report to follow.
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[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings all.
As a Pattaya first-timer, I'm trying to narrow down my hotel options with the following criteria:
1. Around 1, 000 baht/day
2. In-room safe (preferred, but not a must)
3. Shower is western-style (I. E. Not just a shower hose over the toilet and spraying everywhere)
4. Bed is actually one piece and not two small beds pushed together
5. Located near Soi 8 bar area (I wouldn't want to be wandering too much while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk in a new, strange, yet incredible place! )
I've searched this forum rather thoroughly for such a hotel, but couldn't find a place that met all criteria. Flipper House seemed perfect, but then read they push 2 single beds to make a queen size. That seemed like an uncomfortably bad idea, especially since I intend to use that bed to its fullest!
Many thanks in advance for everyone's help. Also, much gratitude to Mai Yao, Gwailo and especially RetiredForever for guiding this newbie. If you guys are there in May, I'm buying you a beer![/QUOTE]
about 860/night
Try this place
[url]http://www.rockhousepattaya.com/[/url]
Cheap, huge rooms, resident girls, room safe, safe as houses. Just tell the owner Alex that darkside sent you.
Pete
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[quote=j ride]hi all,
glad to hear you guys have been keeping the water warm for me upon my return. just a quick question to those converting their weary dollar to baht - how are the in-country exchange rates treating you? we're looking at 29 to 31 baht on the dollar for exchange in the states. is it any better in the los? we need every baht we can get.
see you all soon and remember not to behave. slap some asses tonight for me.
j ride.[/quote]expect to get about 31 these days. 31.45 at the most (at superrich in bangkok).
[url]http://www.superrich1965.com/[/url] you need to subscribe and log on to see the rates. it's free.
be aware that the rates are worse on weekends (the spread is 20 satang, during weekdays 5-10 satang)
the place that i experienced to get the best rates in pattaya is near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on the opposite side on soi lk metro.
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[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings all.
As a Pattaya first-timer, I'm trying to narrow down my hotel options with the following criteria:
1. Around 1, 000 baht/day
2. In-room safe (preferred, but not a must)
3. Shower is western-style (I. E. Not just a shower hose over the toilet and spraying everywhere)
4. Bed is actually one piece and not two small beds pushed together
5. Located near Soi 8 bar area (I wouldn't want to be wandering too much while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk in a new, strange, yet incredible place! )
I've searched this forum rather thoroughly for such a hotel, but couldn't find a place that met all criteria. Flipper House seemed perfect, but then read they push 2 single beds to make a queen size. That seemed like an uncomfortably bad idea, especially since I intend to use that bed to its fullest!
Many thanks in advance for everyone's help. Also, much gratitude to Mai Yao, Gwailo and especially RetiredForever for guiding this newbie. If you guys are there in May, I'm buying you a beer![/QUOTE]
Reply posted in Pattaya Hotels Thread
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I would look at the Sunshine Inn and Residence. The New Wing is better. Usually after Thai New Year they run a special like Stay 7 nights and pay for 6. They don't have Wifi and their safes are in the front lobby. The Rooms are a little noisy until 2 or 3 am because of the bars close by. They do have an underground garage where you can park your motor bike.
These days I like staying near Soi 13. The Inn House does fine for me. There is Condo-hotel across the street right next door to the Dynasty Inn but those rooms run 1500+ bhat per night.
[QUOTE=Gren62]Greetings all.
As a Pattaya first-timer, I'm trying to narrow down my hotel options with the following criteria:
1. Around 1, 000 baht/day
2. In-room safe (preferred, but not a must)
3. Shower is western-style (I. E. Not just a shower hose over the toilet and spraying everywhere)
4. Bed is actually one piece and not two small beds pushed together
5. Located near Soi 8 bar area (I wouldn't want to be wandering too much while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk in a new, strange, yet incredible place! )
I've searched this forum rather thoroughly for such a hotel, but couldn't find a place that met all criteria. Flipper House seemed perfect, but then read they push 2 single beds to make a queen size. That seemed like an uncomfortably bad idea, especially since I intend to use that bed to its fullest!
Many thanks in advance for everyone's help. Also, much gratitude to Mai Yao, Gwailo and especially RetiredForever for guiding this newbie. If you guys are there in May, I'm buying you a beer![/QUOTE]
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Wendella, A lot of these girls have regular customers who call them up right after bar closes, 1am or 2am. The guys don't want to pay a bar fine but want their company. Even though they may not pay a big premium it's quite consistent. If the girl is not available then maybe another girl will be called and the girl which goes with you will loose a consistent income source. That's why many will only want ST until 1 am or 2 am so they can hook-up with another guy after that. In fact they take a taxi right to their apartment. I have so many girls who I have barfined LT and at 2 am or 3 am they get 2 or 3 call right in succession. It's like clock work. The key issue is to tell the girls you know about these scams. Tell the girl if agrees to LT and somehow has to leave early she will only get 500 Bhat as a penalty for breaking her promise. If she's not too good in bed before the 2 am mark you can negotiate and say 1500 Bhat. Remind her she can still go with another customer.
This scam is very common especially in Pattaya. You have the most leverage for LT about 1 hour 1/2 before closing. She knows if she goes with you their isn't enough time for you and then a possible late night customer who wants her right after closing. Also another request is to ask her to turn her phone off when having sex or in bed. Tell her I don't like mobile phones going off when we're having sex.
[QUOTE=Wendella]
Now the problem with a girl like this one is that if it's 10pm and you want LT, she knows she can finish you in less than 2 hrs at 2000baht ST (or in my case, 4 minutes), and then get another customer after you for 2000ST again, or even for 3000-4000 for LT. So it's absolutely not in her economic interest to do LT at 10pm. Of course she has to be pretty sure she can get the next customer if she goes back, and I'd say for this one that would be a pretty safe bet. She looked much more like a Japanese girl than a Thai. So in my situation, after we'd done it the first time, now she was looking at having to stick around my hotel for 4-6 more hours for just 1000 baht more, missing out on lots more money to be made back at her bar. Not going to happen. And I can't really blame her. If that mini-mam hadn't jumped in (forcing a deal on us that was more favorable to me than the girl wanted to give), I might have been able to work out a good deal with her -- for less than LT but longer than ST, which may have worked. Then again, it may have been inevitable that she would have pulled that move after the first go.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mr_Hoffy]You have the most leverage for LT about 1 hour 1/2 before closing. She knows if she goes with you their isn't enough time for you and then a possible late night customer who wants her right after closing. Also another request is to ask her to turn her phone off when having sex or in bed. Tell her I don't like mobile phones going off when we're having sex.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I think next time I'm wanting to go LT or more than ST, I'll do something like this. Basically set out how much it will be if she leaves at this time, how much at this time, etc., and also discuss how many goes it actually means. I find that if you go ST or agree to one go, then they often try to rush it so they can get out a.s.a.p. and go make more money. And of course I want to take my time and enjoy the experience, so that's no good. And if you want to go LT, they'll often have some excuse why they have to leave early, or else hit you with the early morning sudden departure, the girl pretending not to know that LT means at least 2 times, then giving a hard time about doing one more go, and making it like pulling teeth. Lots of fun. It sucks that you have to actually discuss all these details beforehand, but the truth is that these days if you don't, you're often gonna end up with an experience that's short of your expectations.
As for mobile phones, yes defniitely. I've had plenty of experiences where a phone call (or calls) took place as soon as we got to the room. That period of limbo where you're waiting for her to finish up these mysterious calls, which always go on too long, really is pretty damn effective at wrecking the mood and the vibe.
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4 days in Pattaya
The first time I went to Pattaya was 2004 and I didn't know nothing except a generic "a monger place". That first time I didn't even discover south pattaya walking street, I had an hotel at Soi 8, and stopped there, from time to time walked along beach road, not very far, within 2 blocks I always had a good hook. I still remember a couple who drove me crazy at the time, well it was easy, I was my second experience in life with P4P, the first had been in patpong at Bangkok 2 days before.
This time I was much more informed, thanks to this forum. But I must say I had better experience in 2004. Place is going to be spoiled by russian tourism. I saw it in 2004 at Jomitien beach, now it's also in Pattaya. Talking with girls they also told me they were worried about. They told me they are always very aware with them because violent people, and half times they beat them and do not pay. I don't know wether is true or not, but they told me, all of them, I asked them.
Even at walking street. Not many good places I must say. Thai girls here behave mostly very badly, I mean, unfriendly and with a lot of arrogance. They learned form customers. I remember in Soi 8, passing by a bar, there was always someone calling you or at least saying hello. Here none care about you, none. Polo entertainment is just a waste of time getting in. More boys then girls. I saw there a thing I never thought could be possible in thailand: outside a bar inside polo complex, there was a couple of girls of the bar, seated on a bench. They were quite nice. I took seat near them and I say them "hello". They didn't even answer me, they stand up and went away... in tahiland!!!! Can you imagine? I never thought I could write such a thing about thialand, never, even to me looks like fiction. They all look like just came out from desparete housewife or sex and the city stage, that arrogance we all escape from our own countries.
I took a room at Sea View hotel at soi 10, just because I could book it via sawasdee website. The worst service I've ever had, ever. There were no towels in room when i checked in at 3pm, they gave me at 7pm, just to make an example. Room quite big, mine was very dark, big window with the view of a wall. Avoid if possible. Breakfast awful. Never seen a place in the (ex)LOS where none will even tell you good morning. Really the worst place in the world.
The What's up go-go was the only really fun place I found, to my taste. Many really beatiful girls. I didn't feel very good there, none even care about me, and I went away without company, as all other places in walking street. But I must say, what a hell is going on there? How comes you are in What's up watching a soapy show with naked girls and a family come in, a man with wife and even a baby on 2 years old on a pram? I mean, customers has to move because the pram coming in? What am I doing here with a family and a pram? Went away. Pattaya won't still last long time. Baby-prams going in and out from go-go bars? I went to angel witch. Nice place, at first nice show, but were is the company? where are the girls? I asked the waitress, she answer me "not available". What happens to all this bars? They forgot why there are there for, I must say. I'm sorry for all the enthusiastic of pattaya, I was a fan too, but nowadays pattaya has gone.
But for sure such a huge place cannot disappear in one night. Still many girls along beach road, many of them just coming out from pooerty, they thank you for taking them. You better go with this kind of girls, they are very nice, gems, some are really beautyful, and most of them deserve your support and help and let the arrogance of the bar girls spoiled them up definitly.
Sorry I am so hard with Pattaya, you read my previous reports along this trip, I am not a picky man, I am easy going, but this place has become a really bad place.
I read some reports about nice and kinky girls, couple of beauty eating up someone all night long. Well, I didn't see nothing about this, really nothing. I'm not going to tell anyone is lier, simply I didn't see nothing. Really nothing.
I 'm really sorry to say this. I had a beatiful night in bangkok, before coming here, just an easy pick up at NEP, nice dinner ans sweet moments. Very easy, I couldn't do in 4 days in pattaya, I simply couldn't. And I tried, believe me I tried. In phnom Penh I knew a man, used to live here, he just moved away and he told me "yes, while you are used to pattaya it looks like ok because a huge amount fo girls going around, but as soon as you see another place then you realize how ruined pattaya is". People use to adapt to a situation, so looks like is always the same, but is not. Try one night in phnom penh and you will understand. How do you think a female behave while there are baby on prams going around? Do you really think she will take out her kinky side? Come one!
Good-bye Pattaya, as been nice to know you existed once. Let's go ahead, life is going on.
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My first visit to Pattaya was four days between last Xmas and New Year. I stayed in White House Condotel. Nothing to complain but it is not the most affordable place to stay in. Surprisingly few customers. I do not have that much bad to say about Pattaya visit but, of course, being there first time I do not know how much better it has been before. Sure, I noticed a clear indications of Russian presence. I would not worry so much of Russian tourism than Russian ownership of the establishments. If they bring their working methods with them it not a good news for the tourists or working girls.
For some reason I did not get any kicks of Walking Street scene. I cannot pinpoint why. I visited it couple of evenings. It was crowded. I was not in mood getting hammered. I did not get much attention from girls in there. I ended visiting bars outside WS and got reasonable priced LT companionship for every night (and morning). I cannot raise much highlights from my visit. Maybe two: The slightly scary one was when I missed my hotel and walked a bit too far on Beach Road. When I returned there were five ladyboys and they stopped me and one of them asked if I would go to his/hers? hotel room. When I declined he/her? became annoyed and said "So why did you stop to talk with me?" I decided to leave conversation there and walked back to my hotel not turning my head back. Another more hilarious one was after some time from my visit to BJ bar in Soi Post Office. I was walking by another side of street in my thoughts. I heard a cheerful yell with my name from one of the girls who had given me head couple of days earlier. Everywhere else it would have been embarrassing but not in that situation.
Then to annoying newbie style of questions. I am going back during Eastern. How is the season compared to after Xmas? Are there more or less people around? What about weather? Hotter? I see temperature is over 30C but what about humidity? What would you recommend to visit on other direction than between Soi 13 and Walking Street. I think I covered that during my first visit.
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Thanks all for the FX tips. I wish the USD had the same buying power it did seven years ago, but that's not going to stop us, is it?
J Ride
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YOU wish it had the same buying power? :(
Blame the non-fucking US Gummint!!
makes the buying/selling in my PRIMARY hobby DAMNED EXPENSIVE (poo-ying are "secondary" na)
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Bayareapundit,
In reference to your report:
LOl, I am Indian and had absolutely no problem in Pattaya.
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The Hell Club (Eden Club) in Pattaya off of Soi Diana
was looking for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, when i accidentally ran into the hell club (sister club of eden club in bkk) on the same street (off of soi diana, some l-shaped soi). i quickly forgot about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, and dropped in at 2:30pm. was the only client. the 20 girls lined up, and i must say that they had some nice ones. the owner (jack) was very friendly to me. he helped me choose. in the end, i took a newbie named mint (who had a gorgeous face, with puffy lips and killer body), with took (or tuk? ) who was a bit older but was stunning, and petite, the way i like it, with an immaculate body. and although she had long straight black hair, she had it completely slicked back, exposing her truly natural facial beauty. neither did anal. i asked them to wear a maid's outfit (took) and a nurse's outfit (mint). i gave them matching stockings from my private collection (red stockings for mint and white ones for took), which they absolutely loved and started calling me "romantic man". they even allowed me to take some photos of them before the action. pics to come soon!
took was also only 45kg (as she proefessed while i was manhandling her in a reverse cowgirl. she was so cute and screamed, "ohh you take me only 45 kilos, oh, oh, ohhh". i started laughing, and they both did too.
i would be going deep into one, while the other had my balls in her mouth and licking on them vigorously.
mint couldn't speak english at all, so took translated everything like a champ. i must say that this was one incredibly amazing threesome i had, which resulted in a beautiul finish (double bbbjtc-cim-cof), where i had took lie on her back with my twin sack in her mouth, while mint took the rest of me in a sloppy bbbj. at the last moment, i pulled out of her mouth and jizzed all over mint's face (who surprisingly took it like a pro, loving every bit of it), while the rest of my juice trickled down from mint's chin and my balls onto took's face below. the two stayed with me until my final girations were calmed.
when i was done, took ran off to clean her face, but the mysterious mint (who had way more juice on her face) stayed with me, licking me and gently blowing me, just staring in my eyes!
wow.
10/10 experience
ps: keep in mind that right after fs, and just before the final bbbjtc, i asked the girls to wash their hands profusely to remove all possible bacteria.
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Lucky Finger Massage (2nd Road near Soi Diana)
I went for a full-body massage 1-hour/300B at around 10pm, but within minutes, this cute little number was rubbing my meat, and finally I agreed to give her 700B for a HJ (talked her down from 1000B). Keep in mind that there were older couples upstairs getting regular massages, and the only thing separating us was a curtain. So everything done was with whispering which turned me on. This was my 1st ever LOS massage HJ!
The HJ lasted about 15 minutes LOL (had been to Hell Club earlier that day, so I was comletely drained), but this little cutie didn't mind. She was HJ-ing me with her left hand, while she made out with me and licked my neck and nipples. She was cradled in my left arm and she had her legs all over me cuddled REAL close. I slid my left hand down the top of her jeans from the back, and carressed her gorgeous ass for the duration of the HJ. The HJ was truly 10/10, as she paid close attention to my twin sacks, and had a perfect sliding motion with her hand. I ended up spewing such a massive load that it actually flew and hit my own cheek and her chin. The orgasm lasted about 30 seconds and she continued on massaging it for another 2-3 minutes. She cleaned me up, and continued with her half-assed body massage.
She gave me her cell number and whispered that she wanted to do FS LT with me. I told her I would call her, but I left the next morning to BKK!
They had very cute girls working there!
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[QUOTE=Wendella]
As for mobile phones, yes defniitely. I've had plenty of experiences where a phone call (or calls) took place as soon as we got to the room. That period of limbo where you're waiting for her to finish up these mysterious calls, which always go on too long, really is pretty damn effective at wrecking the mood and the vibe.[/QUOTE]
I have a rule regarding mobile phones, they must be either switched off or put on silent once back in the room, if the girl refuses I give her 200 baht and send her on her way.
If you allow her to keep the phone switched on there is a danger she will get a call to say "Papa has been taken ill" or some other nonsense.
Keep one step ahead of them, they are not that smart.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]I have a rule regarding mobile phones, they must be either switched off or put on silent once back in the room, if the girl refuses I give her 200 baht and send her on her way.
If you allow her to keep the phone switched on there is a danger she will get a call to say "Papa has been taken ill" or some other nonsense.
Keep one step ahead of them, they are not that smart.[/QUOTE]
Remember to unplug the TV and hide the remote control before you go out hunting as well. Some girls have the habit of switching on the bloody television as soon as they enter the room. And of course lock down your valuables before you leave.
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Pig And Whistle Hotel
This is the worst hotel I have ever stayed in ever. Management is the worst and the rooms are awful. Beds and showers had no water and ac dint work when I checked in at 10 pm owner or manager told me I could live without ac one night and he dint see why us americans had to have it so dam bad. So at 1030 I had to run around and try to find me hotel last min. At pig and whistle I was on top floor and it had to be 85 to 90 in that room no way I was going to stay and bring gal back to that dam room but even if the room ac was working the rooms not that appealing at all you take shower and every thing just gets wet in there.
Last two trips been at the queen victoria on soi 6 and its the best hotel I have ever stayed. And it starts with the manager vic.
Just check out the website you can see videos of the rooms and you can see for yourself, big showers with glass doors and huge king beds. All for around 800 baht a night.
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Apologies for not getting back sooner - I've been in the land of no / slow internet connections (Laos). Thanks for all the advice.
[QUOTE=Wendella]If you'd agreed on 2000 LT but then ended up giving her 1000 in the morning, I'd say the non-response was because she wanted to give you the message that she saw that as you reneging on the deal, cheating her of her rightfully earned 2000. So now you're a bad man. Don't get me wrong. Of course you're right that 2000 was for more than one go. And she knows that too. But the unfriendliness is part of maintaining her position that you crossed her.
[/QUOTE]With regard 'girl 2' (the one that was watching me) she did try to communicate something to me in the morning - we even tried to phone someone to translate - I thought that she was trying to find out if I wanted to keep her 'long-time, long-time', maybe she was trying to say that 1000 did not include a pop in the morning, but she didn't mention anything about expecting more money. Oh well, that will remain a mystery!
[QUOTE=Dinghy]YUP, Billybob - she played you like a fish on a line
LT is LT (sort of an "all you screw buffet")
Never had one expect "extra" for "boom-boom-chow" (chow is "morning")[/QUOTE]I suspected as much. You win some, you lose some!
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]The first and most important piece of advice I will give to you or any new comer is to negotiate everything before hand. Tell them what you want and ask them if they will do it and how much everything is going to cost. About 75% of the girls will be truthful with you.
All in all, you did not do so badly for a first timer. And now that you know the rules you will be able to have even more fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I'm back in Patts now and will make sure that I fully negotiate beforehand (but stop short of a full written contract!).
Many thanks,
bb69
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Hotel Suggestions?
Looking to spend a week in Pattaya soon. Has anyone stayed at Secrets Hotel and Bar. Off Walking street? What do you think about the place? I am looking to spend under $1, 550 baht per night. Any suggestions?
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[QUOTE=Herbuster Bob]Looking to spend a week in Pattaya soon. Has anyone stayed at Secrets Hotel and Bar. Off Walking street? What do you think about the place? I am looking to spend under $1, 550 baht per night. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Consider yourself lucky if you get a room, should you not have more than the plan and should that be soon. I tried to get in there for a week to no avail.
The place is great.
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[QUOTE=Billybob69]maybe she was trying to say that 1000 did not include a pop in the morning, but she didn't mention anything about expecting more money.[/QUOTE]
I'd be surprised if 1000 was supposed to cover long time and/or more than one go. It'd be rare these days to find a girl who'd do a real LT for less than 1500. Depends where though. In a go-go, def not. 1000 would almost surely be a price for ST.
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places to stay
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Consider yourself lucky if you get a room, should you not have more than the plan and should that be soon. I tried to get in there for a week to no avail.
The place is great.[/QUOTE]
Guys!!
Don't be fooled by some slick advertising, and postings on You Tube.
There are thousands of places to stay, and I would never consider staying at a club for my vacation, let alone peace of mind.
Secrets bar is not what you might think, I was unimpressed, and disliked the hassle of girls trying to have me buy them the world, and beers that cost a shitload. Fuck that! That is why Pattaya sucks imo. There is so much pussy to see, and the talent does not lay in Sharky's or Secrets or any of the Popular rip-off places. Just arrive and find something, look at the room first, DUH!! It works around the world guys.
1550 baht is a lot to pay there, remember not to be sucked into this US mindset. That is why they are a tiger, and the US is a pussy cat. I can get a great ST blowjob in the us for the same as Thailand, and a hotel for less than 1550 baht.
I will not pay more that 5-700 for a hotel anywhere in Thailand, and for that I expect a clean room with TV, Fridge, shower, and AC.
Money is earned, and should not be given away just because we want to feel like were "traveling" and "enjoying" ourselves.
You will be respected more for not throwing your money around, rather than a fool to cheat/and rip-off.
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prices
Oh by the way you guys will be happy to know that Nan (See PHoto Galllery) stayed in my room all night for 1000 baht, and I tapped her multiple times. I had several all nighters for 1000B, and this was not so long ago. In fact Nan asked me to just move into her room and "save money", I did not, but I did stay several nights at her place for the same price, nice to have a girl all day and all night for a 1000.
Cheers
Hummer
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Guys!!
Don't be fooled by some slick advertising, and postings on You Tube.
There are thousands of places to stay, and I would never consider staying at a club for my vacation, let alone peace of mind.
Secrets bar is not what you might think, I was unimpressed, and disliked the hassle of girls trying to have me buy them the world, and beers that cost a shitload. Fuck that! That is why Pattaya sucks imo. There is so much pussy to see, and the talent does not lay in Sharky's or Secrets or any of the Popular rip-off places. Just arrive and find something, look at the room first, DUH!! It works around the world guys.
1550 baht is a lot to pay there, remember not to be sucked into this US mindset. That is why they are a tiger, and the US is a pussy cat. I can get a great ST blowjob in the us for the same as Thailand, and a hotel for less than 1550 baht.
I will not pay more that 5-700 for a hotel anywhere in Thailand, and for that I expect a clean room with TV, Fridge, shower, and AC.
Money is earned, and should not be given away just because we want to feel like were "traveling" and "enjoying" ourselves.
You will be respected more for not throwing your money around, rather than a fool to cheat/and rip-off.[/QUOTE]Firstly there are a lot more things to lookat than only the price. And I don't take adies from the secrets bar for both of the reasons. But I was talking hotels here. And the hotel is very well run and if you need internet in the room it is a bargain at 800-900 Baht (If you can get a room for that rate, mostly fully booked). Furthermore I am happy that the 500 Baht hunters stay somewhere else.
A higher price does in most cases not have an influence on the quality of the girl, but it certainly has an influence on the quality of the customer.
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Oh by the way you guys will be happy to know that Nan (See PHoto Galllery) stayed in my room all night for 1000 baht, and I tapped her multiple times. I had several all nighters for 1000B, and this was not so long ago. In fact Nan asked me to just move into her room and "save money", I did not, but I did stay several nights at her place for the same price, nice to have a girl all day and all night for a 1000.
Cheers
Hummer[/QUOTE]
And at what kind of place are you finding a 1000 baht LT?
I can't really judge her by those pics -- seems like butts are the be all-end all for you (so to speak). ;-)
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Bruised and confused - Newbies ongoing Pattaya trip report
I had previously spent a couple of days in Pattaya - see my other posts - in that time I experienced a good 1000 baht LT session with a girl from the 'Hole In One' bar on Soi 6, another 1000 baht LT session which was bordering on being a rip-off with a girl from 'Poppy Bar' on Soi 7 / Beach Road and a very nice 500 baht ST session with "Mon" from the 'PAT' bar on Soi 6.
After a few weeks travelling around Thailand, I returned to Pattaya. Here is my newbie (ongoing) trip report -
I had booked into the Sawsdee SeaView hotel, but checked out after 1 night; the staff were down-right rude and the room was in need of a lick of paint.
I checked into the 'Queen Victoria' pub; nice atmosphere and of course the Soi 6 action is right on the doorstep. Although Soi 6 is ram-packed of girls looking for action, I find it hard to make a selection on this Soi; obviously I'm looking for a young cutie, but I also like my girls to have a 'personality' and to be able to speak at least a smattering of English, especially if I am going to go LT. I find it hard to start a conversation outside when all the cat-calls are going on.
So I go looking around the beer bars around 2nd road / Soi 6 and spot a girl with a 'different' Thai look. Her name is "Tut", speaks good English, is 29, but hasn't had any kids. 'All my boxes are ticked', so I buy her a drink, we play pool & Connect 4, but at no point does she even so much as come onto me, so eventually I leave confused.
Are there actually bar girls who aren't looking for action?
I head up Soi 6 and the Red Light Bar seems to have the best selection, so I go in for a drink. I buy a cutie a drink, but she has mimimal English and I'm told that she is 700 for ST + 300 bar fine. 1000 for a quickie, you have got to be joking! I buy a drink for another girl but she wants 1500 baht (+ 300 bar fine) for LT.
Were they taking me for a newbie or is 700 ST / 1500 LT now the going rates for half decent girls on Soi 6?
I decline both and by this time, it's past midnight and head back to 2nd road. I walk past 'Sweet Lemon' bar, a girl who looks wise is no more than a 6/10 on my scale, persuades me to pop in for a drink. "Beam" is 26yo and as mad as a March Hare, but we have a great laugh, so bar fine her (400 baht) for 1000 LT - and this time I make sure that this includes a pop in the morning. We head back to the hotel, she gets unchanged. OMG! What a rack! The best that I've seen on an Asian girl. We get down to business. OMG! What a performer! Probably the best bj I've received and great girl on top. It doesn't take me long to finish and I roll over thinking 'I can't wait to do that again in the morning!".
However, all through the night and the morning, I'm woken to the sound of her wretching down the toilet and saying that she is never going to touch Whiskey again. Bang goes my second mind-blowing pop in the morning.
To be continued.......
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[QUOTE=White Whale]Then to annoying newbie style of questions. I am going back during Eastern. How is the season compared to after Xmas? Are there more or less people around? What about weather? Hotter? I see temperature is over 30C but what about humidity? What would you recommend to visit on other direction than between Soi 13 and Walking Street. I think I covered that during my first visit.[/QUOTE]Answering to myself as you guys do not talk to strangers... Weather is about same. I do not notice difference in amount of people. Walking Street still growded. Same lady on my bedside third day. Seem not to get rid off her; probably even want to. If that would happen, I still would appropriate pointers. Now when with her, I also could use hints for tourist activities. Been already in Ripley's Believe or not. What comes to lady 24h LT is 1000B + expences. Expences include eating, drinking, a dress or shoes a day. Still under 2000B a day.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]Answering to myself as you guys do not talk to strangers... Weather is about same. I do not notice difference in amount of people. Walking Street still growded. Same lady on my bedside third day. Seem not to get rid off her; probably even want to. If that would happen, I still would appropriate pointers. Now when with her, I also could use hints for tourist activities. Been already in Ripley's Believe or not. What comes to lady 24h LT is 1000B + expences. Expences include eating, drinking, a dress or shoes a day. Still under 2000B a day.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention 250B bar fine. But we still are in 2000B range. Yesterday we went to beaty parlor. On my request ;) I wanted my finger and toe nails properly done. She had her hair washed. I have met close to 20 thai ladies and sometimes wondered why they always used shower caps? Why did they not wash their hair? I got my answer. It took 20 mins to dry the hair. From bottom to top. Layer by layer.
Today bar owners son takes me for sight-seeing.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]Answering to myself as you guys do not talk to strangers... Weather is about same. I do not notice difference in amount of people. Walking Street still growded. Same lady on my bedside third day. Seem not to get rid off her; probably even want to. If that would happen, I still would appropriate pointers. Now when with her, I also could use hints for tourist activities. Been already in Ripley's Believe or not. What comes to lady 24h LT is 1000B + expences. Expences include eating, drinking, a dress or shoes a day. Still under 2000B a day.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nongnoochtropicalgarden.com/en/index.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.tigerzoo.com/index2.html[/url]
(good tourist activity)
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[QUOTE=Billybob69] I buy a cutie a drink, but she has mimimal English and I'm told that she is 700 for ST + 300 bar fine. 1000 for a quickie, you have got to be joking! I buy a drink for another girl but she wants 1500 baht (+ 300 bar fine) for LT.
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It completely depends on what time of night you go to Soi 6. If you're just looking for a quickie, then go before 8:00 and you should be able to negotiate 500 for a ST and 300 BF. You probably won't get less than that.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]I I have met close to 20 thai ladies and sometimes wondered why they always used shower caps? Why did they not wash their hair? I got my answer. It took 20 mins to dry the hair. From bottom to top. Layer by layer.
Today bar owners son takes me for sight-seeing.[/QUOTE]
Thai girls wear shower caps because they wash their hair about once a week (unless you're a bargirl -they go to the salon every day). This is because their hair can become very frizzy and unkept if they wash it everyday, and if they only wash it once a week, then it's easier to manage. Their hair is also not naturally straight and sleek - they have to go to the salon every few months to get it straightened and done - it can cost anywhere from 1500 baht to 5000 baht, depending upon the length and the treatment.
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Tiger Zoo
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2][url]http://www.nongnoochtropicalgarden.com/en/index.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.tigerzoo.com/index2.html[/url]
(good tourist activity)[/QUOTE]
Didn't Sriracha Zoo get closed down by the authorities because of illegal use of it's Tiger stocks? Has it re-opened now?
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Were they taking me for a newbie or is 700 ST / 1500 LT now the going rates for half
I wish I knew how to put quotes when I write something on this forum. Other forums have little quote buttons. I know how to put quotes around the entire text somebody has written, but I don’t know how to put them around just a few lines.
But, Jackson is the greatest so who am I to complain.
To answer your question, most girls will always ask a higher fee than the normal cost, of course to make a little more money. But, if you know the normal costs all you have to do is look at them and smile and ask, “Are you sure?” Or say, “Everybody else asks for this amount.” And they will usually go down.
Now there are certain hot girls on the street that will ask for that amount, and if they are hot enough I will pay them. There are also certain bars on the street that will ask for that amount, but even if the girl is hot and the bar is asking the higher fee you can usually get them to accept the normal price.
There are a few reasons a hot girl will not accept your lower offer. She might have a regular customer that comes by at that time of day or has called her and said he is coming soon. The second reason is because she is so hot she knows in the next hour she will get somebody to pay her the higher price.
But, I most cases you can always get them down to the normal price. But, if you’re drunk and traveled half way around the world why bother about 10 or 20 buck if you like the girl.
I have lived in Pattaya fours years now and visit Soi 6 at least 3 times a week. It is getting sad know to tell you the truth when every girl on that street, and there are 1,000’s of them know you by name and what you like.
A few that have big tits I have go out and buy baby oil to do them between the tits. Now I will be walking down the street looking for a new girl and I will here one I have done before and might do that day yell out, “Bill, I already have baby oil, you not have to give me 50 baht to buy.”
It is sad to be so well known on that street, but what can I say, I am a ***** monger!!!!
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]I wish I knew how to put quotes when I write something on this forum. Other forums have little quote buttons. I know how to put quotes around the entire text somebody has written, but I don’t know how to put them around just a few lines.
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[QUOxxxTE=Bill Miami]I wish I knew how to put quotes when I write something on this forum. Other forums have little quote buttons. I know how to put quotes around the entire text somebody has written, but I don’t know how to put them around just a few lines.
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Just remove the xxx from both the start/end tags.
Alternatively use the quote button and remove the text you don't want to mark as a quote.
Giotto
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Bruised and confused - Newbies ongoing Pattaya trip report (cont.)
I let my girl go without a morning pop. I don't fancy the thought of my girl puking as she gives me head.
After an afternoon / early evening nap, my plan for the night was to head over to Soi's 7 & 8 to pick another LT girl, but first I had to pick up my laundry. By this time, darkness has just fallen and the laundrette in on Soi 6/1. Which during the day is a Soi of no significance, but as I discovered after dusk it turns into the area where the Ladyboy streetwalkers hunt in packs. In my attempt to outmanovere their advances, I don't spot on open drain and my leg falls down the drain, bruising and grazing it on the way down, so badly that I can bearly limp the 100 yards back to the hotel. Luckily there is enough ice in my fridge to make an ice-pack, but my Soi 6/7 plan is well and truely scuppered.
By 11pm, my leg is just about good enough to do a lap up and down Soi 6 to find some ST action. I don't really see anyone that takes my fancy, then I pass 'Nightwish' Bar. Outside the bar has a host of young average-looking girls, but I spot a cute girl in her late twenties, so stop for a chat, she has good English, so go for a drink. I chat to 'King' and ask her how long she has worked in Pattaya. She tells me two years. I admire her honesty. She tells me that ST is 700 + 300 bar fine. The going rate on the Soi and even offers to leave if I prefer one the bars 18yo girls. She doesn't seem to pick up that I really dig her. I ask about LT, but she doesn't really answer, saying it is 'a long time since she went long-time'. It is almost that she has resigned herself that guys in Pattaya have no interest in looks and personality, but are solely after tender young meat and it is her role to be some kind of 'fixer' for the younger girls (although I don't think that she is the Mamasan or Bar Owner). Does this make any sense to you Pattaya Veterans?
We agree 700/300 for her to go ST. More than I would have normally paid. But this was one girl that I wanted to try in the sack. She didn't disappoint. As I leave, I tell her that I am a butterfly, but I know that if there is a chance I'll be back.
To be continued.
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Bill - it's even more interesting if they don't KNOW that you have language skills and you play "dumb" until the "proper moment" comes along.
in your case, since you live there, they KNOW not to say much around you, right? :)
sabai dee (eek bat ar-tit)
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Secrets - Overpriced
[QUOTE=Herbuster Bob]Looking to spend a week in Pattaya soon. Has anyone stayed at Secrets Hotel and Bar. Off Walking street? What do you think about the place? I am looking to spend under $1, 550 baht per night. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Secrets is just off Walking Street but it's overpriced for what it is and where it is. Has very good marketing but it needs it with all the competition that exists on every corner.
More or less opposite still on Soi 14 is another hotel called the Grand that offers very reasonable rooms at under 1000 Baht per night. Ticked all the boxes for me last year. Quiet and functional A/C, well managed and good breakfast. Perhaps the decoration is a little tired but my room was clean and the bathroom perfectly adequate.
This year I'm planning to stay a little further out near Soi Diana. Still near all the action but away from maddening crowds. Walking Street got a little OTT for me after the novelty value wore off.
[url]http://www.hotelthailand.com/pattaya/grand/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Billybob69]I let my girl go without a morning pop. I don't fancy the thought of my girl puking as she gives me head.[/QUOTE]
This is certainly preferable to her puking while you are deep French-kissing her.
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The Classroom
Went to Classroom on the way home one night about midnite. No one there, and only about 6 girls working. OK, no worries. I sit down and am greeted by a pretty average looking girl. Not my thing, I ignore her and she gets the picture. Then another approaches me, her name is Taay (14), 30 and an Issan girl, who also has a kid. Anyway shes over me like a rash, and I ask her if she wants a drink, and she says no, shes happy just feeling me up. Fair enuff. Soon she says that there are ST rooms up stairs, we can go up there. After awhile I say ok and off we go.
After the shower, I lay on the bed and she asks me where I want it......I say just here for the time being. So she fires me up by giving me a HJ, then she on top riding me. Great body.....and I'm enjoying it, then I feel like a change, so I tell her to get up and go to the table. I tell her to grab the table and I'll do her from behind. So off we go, great experience, and she got nothing on except her high heels, then I ask her to put on her little tartan skirt, and shes got no idea what I'm talking about. So I start looking for the skirt, I find it and I run over to get it, and tell her to put it on, which she smiles and obliges. To be honest I have a huge thing for those little skirts now! Man it was great to pound her from behind while she was wearing that little skirt on.
I soon mention for another change and I say on the poofle (plush stool). So she goes and leans against the poofle with her ass in the air, no I say and I sit on it, then she put her hand on my legs and shes facing away from me bouncing on my cock. This is great I reckon and give her a rest and then I start to give it to her again, then not long after the spasms start to work their way through my body and its finished.
Damage done 1600 Baht. 1000 for her and 600 for room/ BF - (AUD$53)
Heres a link to Taay - [url]http://classroom1.com/girls/taay14/taay14.htm[/url]
Went back to the Classroom the next afternoon, but Taay wasn't there but got talking to a girl called TUK TUK. Now shes from BKK, and told me only her sisters know she works here. Her pic isn't on the website but if you click on present pupils and look at the header, shes the girl in the middle. She is 25 and an absolute doll and hot for it!!!! A lot of foreplay in the gogo touching me up, hands up sorts, etc and soon we are off upstairs for it.
She tells me to sit on the chair and takes off my pants. With that, shes on it like theres no tomorrow and says it alright for me to cum in her mouth. Right on I think. Soon I can't handle it anymore, and once again tell her to put on that little skirt, while I give it to her up against the table from behind. From there we move to the poofle, (is there a theme here), and she's loving it, not to mention me. I soon get her to stand up, and I lean her against the cabinet while I'm still inside her and we continue doing it. Then she gets me to hold her leg in the air. I did this for a while, then she rested her foot on the table while I'm giving it to her from behind. Soon she pushes me away, turns and faces me resting up against the cabinet and we are at it again, b4 I grab her legs, lifting her and she hangs on to me until we finish! She's a hot little number, and she been at the Classroom for 5 months.
God what a joint. I actually went back to see Tuk Tuk on my last day there, and it was no where near as good, but it was worth it. Shes actually looking for a farang BF, and told me shes on a Thai dating site, which she showed me. I've got her email too :)
Great place for a single bloke Asia.
Dan
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[QUOTE=DanTheMan]Went to Classroom on the way home one night about midnite. No one there, and only about 6 girls working. OK, no worries. I sit down and am greeted by a pretty average looking girl. Not my thing, I ignore her and she gets the picture. Then another approaches me, her name is Taay (14), 30 and an Issan girl, who also has a kid. Anyway shes over me like a rash, and I ask her if she wants a drink, and she says no, shes happy just feeling me up. Fair enuff. Soon she says that there are ST rooms up stairs, we can go up there. After awhile I say ok and off we go.
After the shower, I lay on the bed and she asks me where I want it......I say just here for the time being. So she fires me up by giving me a HJ, then she on top riding me. Great body.....and I'm enjoying it, then I feel like a change, so I tell her to get up and go to the table. I tell her to grab the table and I'll do her from behind. So off we go, great experience, and she got nothing on except her high heels, then I ask her to put on her little tartan skirt, and shes got no idea what I'm talking about. So I start looking for the skirt, I find it and I run over to get it, and tell her to put it on, which she smiles and obliges. To be honest I have a huge thing for those little skirts now! Man it was great to pound her from behind while she was wearing that little skirt on.
I soon mention for another change and I say on the poofle (plush stool). So she goes and leans against the poofle with her ass in the air, no I say and I sit on it, then she put her hand on my legs and shes facing away from me bouncing on my cock. This is great I reckon and give her a rest and then I start to give it to her again, then not long after the spasms start to work their way through my body and its finished.
Damage done 1600 Baht. 1000 for her and 600 for room/ BF - (AUD$53)
Heres a link to Taay - [url]http://classroom1.com/girls/taay14/taay14.htm[/url]
Went back to the Classroom the next afternoon, but Taay wasn't there but got talking to a girl called TUK TUK. Now shes from BKK, and told me only her sisters know she works here. Her pic isn't on the website but if you click on present pupils and look at the header, shes the girl in the middle. She is 25 and an absolute doll and hot for it!!!! A lot of foreplay in the gogo touching me up, hands up sorts, etc and soon we are off upstairs for it.
She tells me to sit on the chair and takes off my pants. With that, shes on it like theres no tomorrow and says it alright for me to cum in her mouth. Right on I think. Soon I can't handle it anymore, and once again tell her to put on that little skirt, while I give it to her up against the table from behind. From there we move to the poofle, (is there a theme here), and she's loving it, not to mention me. I soon get her to stand up, and I lean her against the cabinet while I'm still inside her and we continue doing it. Then she gets me to hold her leg in the air. I did this for a while, then she rested her foot on the table while I'm giving it to her from behind. Soon she pushes me away, turns and faces me resting up against the cabinet and we are at it again, b4 I grab her legs, lifting her and she hangs on to me until we finish! She's a hot little number, and she been at the Classroom for 5 months.
God what a joint. I actually went back to see Tuk Tuk on my last day there, and it was no where near as good, but it was worth it. Shes actually looking for a farang BF, and told me shes on a Thai dating site, which she showed me. I've got her email too :)
Great place for a single bloke Asia.
Dan[/QUOTE]
Great report....and thanks for the info!!
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Thai girls wear shower caps because they wash their hair about once a week (unless you're a bargirl -they go to the salon every day). This is because their hair can become very frizzy and unkept if they wash it everyday, and if they only wash it once a week, then it's easier to manage. Their hair is also not naturally straight and sleek.[/QUOTE]
My Thai GF has naturally straight hair, however my backup Thai GF has the curliest hair I have ever seen on a Thai woman. She said both of her parents had slightly curly hair and it just multiplied when it got to her.
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My Language Skills
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Bill - it's even more interesting if they don't KNOW that you have language skills and you play "dumb" until the "proper moment" comes along.
in your case, since you live there, they KNOW not to say much around you, right? :)
sabai dee (eek bat ar-tit)[/QUOTE]
I have lived here four years and know 10 words. That is so sad! I am from American and so envious of Europeans that learn to speak four or five languages at an early age. It is so much easier for them to pick up the Thai language or at least enough to have a conversation. I do miss out on a lot of fun I could having being able to communicate with the girls better and understand what their laughing at all of the time. I hope it is not me! But it could be, who knows?
Although, people who do speak good Thai say they hear Thais speaking bad about foreigners when they are walking around town. Since, I don’t understand Thai, I don’t know when their saying something bad about me, which is a good thing I guess.
For all you first time visitors, one of the reasons, besides the fact I am lazy and don’t want to go to school and learn which I should. You don’t need to speak Thai to have a good time. The girl’s, almost all of them speak a little English, much better than my Thai. And if they don’t speak English they get the point across in other ways that are very easy to understand, if you know what I mean?
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Because of the shitty USD, I have to flee to Cambodia for sex. Fuck![/QUOTE]
Must be sad not to be able to drop $20-30 for a shag.
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Bruised and confused - Newbies ongoing Pattaya trip report (final instalment)
Still suffering the effects of my ‘ladyboy incident’, I decide to take a day off from the ladies and hit the beach. At the end of the day, I have to walk down Soi 6 to get to my hotel (tough life isn’t it). 'Mon' at PAT bar, who I was with at my previous visit to Pattaya, spots me and greets me like an old friend. I tell her ‘no boom-boom, only drink’ as I enter the bar, but the old fella has different ideas and is quickly stood to attention. We agree 500 ST with only 200 bar fine (a reduced bar fine for a repeat customer? ), the BJ wasn’t as good as I remembered – maybe the other girls have raised my stakes – but nevertheless a more than satisfactory experience. As we clean up, she asks me the ‘’usual thai questions’’ – children? Married? Girlfriend? – I answer negative to all three – Why? She asks – "Maybe it’s because I’ve got a small cock" I nervously joke. She bends down and looks at my cock and then says in a matter of fact way "No, you have a good cock". Amen to that.
The next night I again head down Soi 6 for some ST action and go for a drink with "Da"at the Thai Rose bar. She tells me that she has only been in Pattaya for five days and only moved there because her husband died – instincts are telling to abort mission, but I have to leave early the next morning and don’t want to hit any more bars that night so agree 700ST with 250 bar fine. My instincts were initially proved right; uninspiring BJ and cowgirl and she was a condom holder in mish and doggy. None of this is working for me, so I decide to take the condom off and hand myself. She responds by gently licking my knob. As I reach the point of no return, I give a few grunts fully expecting her to pull away, but she waits mouth wide open, so I duly oblige. The CIM just about redeemed her; but I wouldn’t recommend her.
Newbies Conclusion on Pattaya
Whilst Thailand in general and specifically Pattaya may seem like a mongering paradise – in many ways it is; bar after bar of cuties waiting to "love you long time" at a fraction of the cost back home – it seems like the golden rules of ‘research’ and ‘negotiate’ are more than relevant.
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Back home :(
[QUOTE=White Whale]Answering to myself as you guys do not talk to strangers... Weather is about same. I do not notice difference in amount of people. Walking Street still growded. Same lady on my bedside third day. Seem not to get rid off her; probably even want to. If that would happen, I still would appropriate pointers. Now when with her, I also could use hints for tourist activities. Been already in Ripley's Believe or not. What comes to lady 24h LT is 1000B + expences. Expences include eating, drinking, a dress or shoes a day. Still under 2000B a day.[/QUOTE]After spending seven days with same nice girl I needed a change. After all conversation was very limited around one word basis on level "Me Tarzan. You Jane". We broke up in friendly terms. We had visited Ripley's, crocodile farm, garden and Mini Siam. Ended up her bar every evening. Most nights I seemed to be their only paying customer.
I found myself in Pump Station on Soi 13/2. There was one youngish girl who gave good head and was very friendly afterwards. I spent there couple of hours and took two (too) quick rounds. For rest of the night I went to Bootleca? bar on same street; I was lucky there during my first Pattaya visit with late night desperate girls looking for customers. What you say. It seemed to be the case that evening also. A nice looking lady approached and we agreed visit to my hotel for 1000B. In hotel after some lousy sex it turned up that I had agreed ST visit. To be frank getting rid off her did not upset me that much.
Next afternoon I went back to Pump Station to same girl. This time she had to work for the money. I did not come before she took off the rubber and then I came into her face. For the evening I wanted search new frontiers and headed to Soi Buakow. There really was no action. The bars were almost empty. I sat in one of those and found companionship behind the counter. I made standard overnight deal. The girl turned out to be bigger disappointment than previous night. She was cold and refused from touching. She said that deal includes two pops and nothing more. After first one she demanded something to eat so I ordered her a pizza. When she had eaten I asked her to leave.
After these two experiences I started to believe I had used all my luck meeting the first LTR girl. There was only two nights left. I wandered back to Soi 13/2. I needed to take a leak so I went to a random bar. There were ok looking young ladies but an older lady dangled on me. First I was not interested. She sat facing me and started discussion in fairly good English. She was 37 years. It could be noticed on her face and hard labor hardened hands. I am close to 40 myself. For the first time during my visit I felt I could talk to someone. Eventually it came time to do the deal. She said it is 200B for bar and whatever I wanted offer to her. I liked her despite her age so I offered standard 1000B. When we arrived to hotel I first went to shower. She went after me. When she finally came out with towel on my expectation for her body was not high. But WOW when she undressed the towel. I guess hard work had made her body rock hard. Nice small firm tits. Much better than much younger girls I only preferred earlier. Two kids she has had not made her pussy too loose. She really worked hard in bed. Did not give up riding too easily than most of the Thai girls I had met. She ride me until we both we soaked in sweat. She also offered best GFE I have experienced for a long time. No need to say I spent also my last night with her. If I was not such cynic life has turned me into I really would have fallen for her. Anyway, I miss her :)
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[quote=hummer bird]
guys!!
don't be fooled by some slick advertising... there are thousands of places to stay...
...1550 baht is a lot to pay there, remember not to be sucked into this us mindset.
...i will not pay more that 5-700 for a hotel anywhere in thailand, and for that i expect a clean room with tv, fridge, shower, and ac.
money is earned, and should not be given away just because we want to feel like were "traveling" and "enjoying" ourselves.
you will be respected more for not throwing your money around, rather than a fool to cheat/and rip-off.
oh by the way you guys will be happy to know that nan (see photo galllery) stayed in my room all night for 1000 baht, and i tapped her multiple times. i had several all nighters for 1000b, and this was not so long ago. [/quote]
well said, hummer! i can't agree more.
unless you visit during xmas, there is no point in booking a place for more than the first night. there are some nice places for b500-700 per night, just shop around soi dianna inn / soi bokhao.
fls are happy to get your b1000 and no bf; and beer bars b1000 + b200-300 bf. i've been with many talents for b1000. if the girl is a real talent i would stay with her for more than one night.
if i want her to stay during the day (which they would be happy to do and you wouldn't be restricted to night time sex only), the deal is that you have to cover her expenses during the day (food, drinks, etc). some would ask for a dress /shoes - this is not a must.
fls can be found in all the clubs (luzifer, tony's, tony's 2, etc). the better you look and the later it is, the less you will have to pay. wgs from beer bars etc go to these places after around 1-2am, when their bar closes.
b1000 per night is a lot of money for a thai girl; and if she's good, her 'tip' is that you stay with her for more than one night, and maybe even cover her expenses during the day. i don't see any reason to pay more.
personally, i find fls much more fun (generally speaking). most of them speak english (to some extend) and are more fun-loving.
clubs check their ids before letting them in, so no risk of **** sex, which is a crime that you can go to jail for!
it's a real issue sometimes, as most farangs can't read thai dates and can't verify the girl's age by themselves. thai police enforces the law and you will definitely find yourself in jail if caught, whether you knew about it or not!
farang-owned beer bars are strict about employing 'legal' girls only, but thai owned places don't always care.
anyway, enough said. unless you've got a personal reason why you should pay more, i wouldn't pay more than b1000 +bf for lt; and about b500 for a nice big hotel room with tv, ac, fridge, hot water and in-room safe.
my last visit in pattaya was nov-dec 07, so not so long ago. this was high season (even though not peak season, which is around xmas).
around this time of the year (march-april) prices go down and it's much easier to find nice accommodation for cheap rates. from april - if i'm not mistaken - low season prices apply.
happy holiday and successful hunting!
:-)
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Susi and Inter Massage
Can someone please help us out with the location of Inter Massage in Pattaya? Has it closed down or just temporarily?
Susie massage at the bottom of soi 3? I went there again this time how do I get in? From the bar on beach road or from the side in soi 3? I went there and couldn't get much sense out of the people around there at the time.
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[QUOTE=Skate128]Can someone please help us out with the location of Inter Massage in Pattaya? Has it closed down or just temporarily?
Susie massage at the bottom of soi 3? I went there again this time how do I get in? From the bar on beach road or from the side in soi 3? I went there and couldn't get much sense out of the people around there at the time.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.soapy-massage.com/pattaya-soapy-massage-parlors.html#Inter_Massage_Soapy_Parlor[/url]
I can't say if its still open.
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Na
@MarcoStraight: where can i found Na (the blackgirl from your nice pictures)?
She is the woman of my dreams.
thanks very much for info!
Bye,
Shaved
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[QUOTE=Wendella]I'd be tempted in that last Nana situation you told, to just cut her loose without paying anything -- she can just walk across the street to her bar and get back onstage, so it's not like she's lost anything. But yes, then there is the social situation and also the fact that you may want to return to that bar later and be able to pick someone up there, not be labeled as the Farang from Hell. Then again, if a girl is that blatant, the other girls must realize she plays the prima donna act, and wouldn't take her too seriously.
I guess the way I'd handle it also would depend on how eager she seemed in the bar. If it seemed like she was aloof and just agreeing to it without any enthusiasm, then I'd cut her some slack because she probably was going along with a deal she wasn't too keen on. I've also had the opposite, a girl who was very seductive before (Angel Disco) return to the hotel to turn into a rudely aloof corpse, making it clear this whole thing was completely tedious to her. (That was back in 2003, and I see she STILL works there. Saw her in Nana parking lot at 2am one night. And I'd seen this same girl there in 2001! She always wears a bob hair cut, usually bleached a bit, nice face -- from Laos, and says she was once in some Thai film as an actress)
On this past trip, I went to Rainbow 4 and was approached (when leaving the men's room) by a girl I'd had my eye on for a few visits -- she's the tall and thin one. There are a few like that there, but she's the distinctly tallest and thinnest. Anyway, she said Hi, what's your name. I asked her if she wanted a drink. She came over to my table and pretty soon cut to the offer,which was for ST only and only upstairs. LT? No, can not. Well, within a few minutes we were upstairs and about a minute after that we were getting dressed again to go our separate ways. I think we had sex but it all went so fast I wasn't completely sure. My condom was filled, so I guess we did. Anyway, the fastest 2000 baht I ever spent.
The next night she spotted me outside (she was done working early I guess) and asked me if I'd buy her a stuffed animal from a vendor. I giggled and said oh no, sorry.
The next night I went back to Nana and hit a few different bars, not being too enthused about anything I was seeing. I decided to go back to RB4 and see if anything else there caught my eye. Well, she was dancing right on stage just inside the door, spotted me the second I stepped inside and made eye contact. She immediately came down off the stage and over to me, wedged herself between my legs and put my arms around her. (she took MY arms and placed them around her, I mean) She was being about as warm as I've seen any girl behave in that bar. After a few minutes tonight's offer came: I go to your hotel. "OH, I thought you can not?" Well, she can. I ask if she can go LT? "No, ST." "Oh, well, hm, I don't know." Then we start negotiating time, she says until 12 (it's 10pm now), and I'm not too interested in that. Then she says ok until 2am for 3000. At this point a mini-mamasan comes over and inserts herself into the negotiation -- She says 5am is LT, she can go until 5am. A bit weird that this one has taken over like this, but I go along with it and the deal is made at 3000 until 5am.
So, we go back to the hotel. We get in bed and as we proceed, she seems to be rushed and I say "I like slow." to which she says she doesn't like slow. Grrr. Anyway, this time I take more control and keep the pace at my own. Eventually we get to the main deal and finish up. At that point she got under the covers and turned on tv, while I relaxed next to her and then dozed off. Awhile later, maybe 45 minutes? she says ok she wants to go now. "You sleep, I go." It's about 12. Now I'm sleepy and not exactly desiring another go this second, so I say OK but you go now only 2000. She says 3000. I tell her that was if she stayed until 5 o'clock. She then said "no, not 5 o'clock, five HOURS" -- Uh, well, its now just 2 hrs later. So knowing that her ST fee is 2000, I just say OK I pay you 2500, ok? She frowned (!!!!) and agreed. She made some remark about how now she would have to go back and work in the bar again to make enough to pay her tuition fee tomorrow (between the lines: that's my fault). I said, "oh, ok" in a nice way, still friendly in tone. She seemed slightly displeased but still polite-friendly. And then she left. I'm sure she ended up getting her next customer and 'made her tuition'. The compromise felt like the only one that was going to be peaceable on both sides. Any less and she would have been pissed off, any more and I would have been.
Now the problem with a girl like this one is that if it's 10pm and you want LT, she knows she can finish you in less than 2 hrs at 2000baht ST (or in my case, 4 minutes), and then get another customer after you for 2000ST again, or even for 3000-4000 for LT. So it's absolutely not in her economic interest to do LT at 10pm. Of course she has to be pretty sure she can get the next customer if she goes back, and I'd say for this one that would be a pretty safe bet. She looked much more like a Japanese girl than a Thai. So in my situation, after we'd done it the first time, now she was looking at having to stick around my hotel for 4-6 more hours for just 1000 baht more, missing out on lots more money to be made back at her bar. Not going to happen. And I can't really blame her. If that mini-mam hadn't jumped in (forcing a deal on us that was more favorable to me than the girl wanted to give), I might have been able to work out a good deal with her -- for less than LT but longer than ST, which may have worked. Then again, it may have been inevitable that she would have pulled that move after the first go.[/QUOTE]Yes, this sounds like me regular at RB4 I think the name was Jar or Jah? do you recall. I haven't seen her in long time however heard she was being taken care of. She wear braces and is in Uni supposedly. If so I'll post a pic later.
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[QUOTE=Siddv]Yes, this sounds like me regular at RB4 I think the name was Jar or Jah? do you recall. I haven't seen her in long time however heard she was being taken care of. She wear braces and is in Uni supposedly. If so I'll post a pic later.[/QUOTE]
No braces on the one I met. I don't remember her name but Jar/Jah doesn't ring a bell. What I do remember is that she was #025. Good luck finding yours. I'm not in Thailand now so can't help too much, sorry!
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[QUOTE=Shaved72]@MarcoStraight: where can i found Na (the blackgirl from your nice pictures)?
She is the woman of my dreams.
thanks very much for info!
Bye,
Shaved[/QUOTE]On the Pattaya beach.
A nightmare now.
Forget!
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[QUOTE=Calvinrussell]On the Pattaya beach. A nightmare now. Forget![/QUOTE]Calvin, could you expand on this? Are you saying mongering is poor along the beach areas?
Thanks.
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Going to Pattaya with husband
Hi guys
My husband and I are off to Pattaya in late June for some fun. Been there before and had a few girls; Lek, Juan and Jong. Nice enough ladies but I let him pick them. This time it is my turn. No wonder you guys have bad experiences. You need a female counterpart to help you see what us girlies want. The ones my boy picked were only mediocre and I saw him ignore some girls that were ok but would have gone nuts in the sack. Put the energizer bunny to shame I would think. We are both safe and do LT ST but NEVER BB, even BBBJs are out. I know someone who caught aids from a girl over there by a BBBJ as she had a bad cut in the mouth. Is never worth the risk eh? Last time we stayed at the Nana Plaza and Eastiny but this time we are off to Jomtien Beach. I want to go to a BJ Bar and also see a soapie. Any suggestions? We don't care about the money. F*ck, it is nothing compared to paying $600 for a whitie here for an hour and getting someone who is fat, with stretchies, hanging tits and a face that is ugly as. Different compared to the ad "hot, sexy, model looks" ha ha ha
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[QUOTE=Kakariki 08]Hi guys, My husband and I are off to Pattaya in late June for some fun. [/QUOTE]
Let us know if you are looking for a guy to fill one of your holes while your hubby fills another one. My rates are extremely reasonable.
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I'm finally going back to LOS, today! See you all there. I'll be posting pix upon my return.
J Ride
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[QUOTE=Kakariki 08]Hi guys
My husband and I are off to Pattaya in late June for some fun. Been there before and had a few girls; Lek, Juan and Jong. Nice enough ladies but I let him pick them. This time it is my turn. No wonder you guys have bad experiences. You need a female counterpart to help you see what us girlies want. The ones my boy picked were only mediocre and I saw him ignore some girls that were ok but would have gone nuts in the sack. Put the energizer bunny to shame I would think. We are both safe and do LT ST but NEVER BB, even BBBJs are out. I know someone who caught aids from a girl over there by a BBBJ as she had a bad cut in the mouth. Is never worth the risk eh? Last time we stayed at the Nana Plaza and Eastiny but this time we are off to Jomtien Beach. I want to go to a BJ Bar and also see a soapie. Any suggestions? We don't care about the money. F*ck, it is nothing compared to paying $600 for a whitie here for an hour and getting someone who is fat, with stretchies, hanging tits and a face that is ugly as. Different compared to the ad "hot, sexy, model looks" ha ha ha[/QUOTE]
Now you've got me curious. Does this board have a substantial amount of female members? Honestly, it never really occurred to me. Anyone else care to sound off?
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Pattaya June 2008
Hi guys,
I will visit Pattaya with my 25 year old Filipino wife in June(i am a 40 year old swedish guy).
She is a tiny girl with a incredible smile and she is very submissive.
Besides the fact that we will have female companions, we are also interested in having some guys joining us at our hotel some evenings.
The best would be 2-3 friends who will come to our hotel and fuck all her holes, but single guys are also welcome to answer.
We enjoy sex to be wild and intence and it's nice if you enjoy to dominate, slap her a little, deep throating her and of course fucking her tight little ass.
We are not doing this for money, just for fun.
Everything must be with condom!
So send me an PM if you are in Pattaya during June this summer, and you wanna come to our hotel for some drinks and some wild and free sex.
PS: she is not very experienced yet, so "big" guys can be a problem.
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Harikke, Kakariki...You both have similer names and really odd post..you seem to be the husband and wife..who would be visting pattaya on june.
Do i know you..you sound very much familer...with capital S A C M..oops
S CAM ;)
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Harikke, Kakariki...You both have similer names and really odd post..you seem to be the husband and wife..who would be visting pattaya on june.
Do i know you..you sound very much familer...with capital S A C M..oops
S CAM ;)[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a load of BOLLOCKY!
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Happy a-go-go
Have any of you been to Happy before? Good or bad experiences? What other go-go bars have any decent girls? I was at Happy's but I'm kinda un-sure about bar chicks... I'd rather just wait til' midnight and hit up Lucifers or Marine Disco but if yall know of any cute girls at any of the go-go bars and have some pics that would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Harikke, Kakariki...You both have similer names and really odd post..you seem to be the husband and wife..who would be visting pattaya on june.
Do i know you..you sound very much familer...with capital S A C M..oops
S CAM ;)[/QUOTE]Yes I agree that some of the letters are equal in (harikke and Kakariki), but I am not sure I am very impressed that you noticed that...
I gladly admit that Kakariki made me post here, and if any are interested I can take custom pictures of my wife to prove that we are for real.
It was not my intention to "hurt" anyones feelings with my post.
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[QUOTE=Harikke]Yes I agree that some of the letters are equal in (harikke and Kakariki), but I am not sure I am very impressed that you noticed that...
I gladly admit that Kakariki made me post here, and if any are interested I can take custom pictures of my wife to prove that we are for real.
It was not my intention to "hurt" anyones feelings with my post.[/QUOTE]
OK im sorry.....i take my words back...misunderstanding on my part...Good Luck with your trip
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Happy
[QUOTE=Slim220]Have any of you been to Happy before? [/QUOTE]
I've used Happy a Go Go many times over the past 10 years. I guess I'm a regular customer there. The manager always recognizes me and says hi, and I have my regular waiter, #79. I have several regular girls too, but sometimes take some variety. Happy is my personal favorite Go Go, because they tend to have the hottest girls. Tends to have some of the higher prices, but I believe the quality is worth it.
The sister bar to Happy is Peppermint, which is also one of my top 5 Go Go's. I've had some luck with Lucifer's and other discos. But I like to get a good look at the entire package. A couple of times I've been a little disappointed once the package was unwrapped; stretch marks, chubby, saggy boobs, etc.
Coyotes, Club Boesche also have some hotties. But they all are forever changing, so variable. Just my thoughts. Many may disagree.
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Happy has a nice selection, but I found it to be too "mercenary".
I tried Coyote last trip - some lookers. I thought it was a nice touch when a Japanese guy decided on 2 hotties for the night, gathered the rest of the dancer crew around and threw a fist full of small bills into the air before leaving for the rest of the night. As I was sitting right next to them, some landed (the bills) in my lap so I graciously offered them to a couple of the dancers. (I think he tossed maybe 1500B total in 20, 50, 100's)
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Pregnant girls
I just wonderd has some advice regarding finding pregnant girls in Pattaya. Any bars who specialize in this? Or bars who let them work even if they have had a little accident?
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First time in Pattaya
Hello all,
Had my second trip to Thailand recently, and more importantly the first to Pattaya.
Stayed at Anna Jet bar/guest house on soi 7, just under 500 baht a night for 13 nights. Think the price dropped to 400 and something because of the length of my stay. Ideal, clean, basic, digital wall safe, A/C, CCTV on the entrance stair well. No hassles bringing girls back (You pay for the room, the guest is your business), in fact the bar downstairs was full of available women. You wouldn't even need to leave your accomodation for a shag! Chose not to shit on my own doorstep though (Which was a struggle considering the quality of some of the women) Laundry opposite, very friendly staff. Recommended!
Went to Foxy Lady bar soi 8. Ended up with a girl who said she was 18. 300 BF. Took her home at 0000, and she stayed till 1400-1500 in the afternoon. Think I shagged her 4 times in all. Very charming girl, name of Om. Another girl Nui? , I took short time a few nights later and went to a nearby hotel for an hour. A real firecracker! BBBJ, and BB sex (Due to the heat of the moment not through deliberate choice. Not clever I know) She just dived on it. Pulled out and come all over her. Foxy Lady is worth a visit lads.
Found most girls would go back with me for 300 BF, and 1000 LT, and one stayed till 1730 the next day (That was a tiring day! She joked that I was trying to kill her! Shagged her 5 times, and she wasn't in a hurry to go) Did meet a girl from Amazing Paradise Bar soi 7, (Some good talent here) who asked for 1500 LT, but as she was one of the most attractive girls on soi 7, I chose to pay it. She in fact stayed with me 24 hrs, for 1500. Ended up being my companion for a trip to Ko Chang too. Went to Honey Pot soi 2. Amazing talent, but the girl I chatted to was so stuck up her own arse because she was (admittedly) stunning, that I lost interest. So nice waitresses in there though! Went to King Kong bar, soi6. Chatted to a lady called Lot, 30 year old. My sort of woman. Gentle, polite, immaculate appearance (She had beautiful cared for hands and feet, something I notice in women) very pleasant. Paid 200-300 bar fine I think, and 700 for a really nice hour of sex upstairs, including the room fee. Will visit her again.
Ko Chang
I was 'accompanied' on Ko Chang, but if you travel alone, there are a strip of bars in Hat Sai Khao that are full of available women. Many (Very attractive) young ladyboys, young gay lads, and fit bar girls. Something for everyone. Chilled out atmosphere too. Sat at the bar wishing I had visited alone. Sorry didn't get the chance to find out the goiing rates.
Don't want to annoy people by expressing my newbie opinions, but I did make some observations.
I) Respect. Treat all the women with dignity and respect, and you will have a friendly, willing companion, not just grinding away for pay.
Ii) Learn some Thai and make an effort to use it.
Iii) Don't go back to the same bar and pick up a different girl, unless you want trouble.
Iv) Don't go with a ladyboy who's cock is bigger than your's. It's demoralising. !
Matt
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[QUOTE=Bam Boii] regarding finding pregnant girls in Pattaya. Any bars who specialize in this? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Matt] Iv) Don't go with a ladyboy who's cock is bigger than your's. It's demoralising. ! [/QUOTE]
Is it me or is this thread getting really weird.
The mental image of a lineup of a dozen pregnant girls doing the shuffle, I have to admit, is pretty hilarious. I'm no Pattaya vet but my hunch is there is not such a place. Yet.
As for Tip #4, thanks. That will definitely come in handy. ;-)
Variety is certainly the spice of life. At least around here lately.
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17?
[QUOTE=Red Matt]Hello all,
Had my second trip to Thailand recently, and more importantly the first to Pattaya.....................................
Went to Foxy Lady bar soi 8. Ended up with a girl who said she was 17. 300 BF. Took her home at 0000, and she stayed till 1400-1500 in the afternoon. Think I shagged her 4 times in all. Very charming girl, name of Om. ...........
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17? Isn't this illegal and another punter went through hell from board members because of this?
And making it to the ROD is a sick joke, isn't it?
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[QUOTE=Duniawala]17? Isn't this illegal and another punter went through hell from board members because of this?[/QUOTE]If he is a citizen of the U.S., he can and should be prosecuted.
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[QUOTE=Duniawala]17? Isn't this illegal and another punter went through hell from board members because of this?[/QUOTE]
It's illegal under the laws of Thailand and the U.S. In Thailand, the age of consent is 15, but there are special laws that state it is illegal to pay (or compensate in any way) for sex with a partner under 18 years of age. And under U.S. law, paid sex with a partner under 18 anywhere in the world is a Federal crime that can get the perp 30 years hard time. Since the law was passed, 71 men have stood trial for violating it and 44 have been convicted.
Evil
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Deep-Throating a Bottle
A short report from my most recent trip to Pattaya. More will follow. As always with my posts, the pages are meant to be opened in numerical order. The girls are from Secrets on Soi 14, just off Walking Street in Pattaya.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Rayzor]If he is a citizen of the U.S., he can and should be prosecuted.[/QUOTE]Calm down mongers!
He is from the UK. Legal age of consent is 16 there. Have some mercy on our brother.
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Decided to cancel my Angeles trip and head back to Pattaya again, arrived Saturday 12th around 19:00hrs, managed to get into my favourite hotel no problem even though Songkran was just starting. At around 19:30 I was on Soi honey having a massage 300 baht for about 1 1/2 hour, finished with an excellent oily HJ which is what I wanted (she was willing to ride) gave her a tip of 500 baht in the room, I did notice while I was waiting at a food trolley outside she gave the tip money to the papasan.
Wandered down to Soi 6 around 15:00 Sunday stopped and watched the merriment of the water battles, the conclusion I drew was there is always somebody with a bigger bucket! it was nice seeing the hardened soi 6 girls playing like kids.
Eventually retired inside King Kong for a break was accompanied by Leah who gave me a BBBJ on the couch in front of the bar very good technique, the old expression "she could suck start a leaf blower" comes to mind.
One major disaster was on Sunday night took an older dear off a Soi Diana bar near Areca lodge, nice smile but no english at all 300baht bar fine, got to the room and only wanted to cuddle and massage couldn't touch her pussy anyway settled for a relaxing massage and nodded off gave her the standard 1000 in the morning I know I shouldn't have as she didn't provide the goods but as it's new year I let it go. Paid a visit to TQ1 not been for a few years, there were some real stunners in didn't have a take away as a little early.
May the force be with you. any forum members want to share a beer or chat pm me as I am a solo j
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Decided to cancel my Angeles trip and head back to Pattaya again, arrived Saturday 12th around 19:00hrs, managed to get into my favourite hotel no problem even though Songkran was just starting. At around 19:30 I was on Soi honey having a massage 300 baht for about 1 1/2 hour, finished with an excellent oily HJ which is what I wanted (she was willing to ride) gave her a tip of 500 baht in the room, I did notice while I was waiting at a food trolley outside she gave the tip money to the papasan.
Wandered down to Soi 6 around 15:00 Sunday stopped and watched the merriment of the water battles, the conclusion I drew was there is always somebody with a bigger bucket! it was nice seeing the hardened soi 6 girls playing like kids.
Eventually retired inside King Kong for a break was accompanied by Leah who gave me a BBBJ on the couch in front of the bar very good technique, the old expression "she could suck start a leaf blower" comes to mind.
One major disaster was on Sunday night took an older dear off a Soi Diana bar near Areca lodge, nice smile but no english at all 300baht bar fine, got to the room and only wanted to cuddle and massage couldn't touch her pussy anyway settled for a relaxing massage and nodded off gave her the standard 1000 in the morning I know I shouldn't have as she didn't provide the goods but as it's new year I let it go. Paid a visit to TQ1 not been for a few years, there were some real stunners in didn't have a take away as a little early.
May the force be with you. any forum members want to share a beer or chat pm me as I am a solo j[/QUOTE]
Hi Luke. I arrived on the day of Songkran soaking very annoying. Will be around for another couple of days. Sent you a PM. Any other mongers out there are also welcome to send me a PM
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[quote=monkeydick4]calm down mongers!
he is from the uk. legal age of consent is 16 there. have some mercy on our brother.[/quote]
he can be prosecuted in the u.k. as well. thirty three countries, including the u.s., u.k., australia, canada and germany, have laws making it illegal for their citizens to have paid sex with a minor anywhere in the world. for the purposes of these laws, anyone under the age of 18 is defined as a minor or child. the age of consent in the country of origin doesn't enter into it.
you can get more information on the [url=http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travelling-and-living-overseas/be-a-responsible-tourist/child-sex-tourism]foreign & commonwealth office website
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from that site:
"british citizens and residents can be prosecuted in the uk for sexual offences committed against children abroad under the [b]sexual offences act 2003[/b]. having a sexual relationship with a child is an offence, regardless of local cultural practices.
some offences carry penalties up to life imprisonment and anyone found guilty will also be placed on the sex offenders register.
the uk police, the child exploitation and online protection (ceop) centre and interpol constantly monitor child sex tourists and will prosecute.
it may be difficult to correctly judge a person’s age. if in doubt, err on the side of caution and remember you could be breaking the law and prosecuted."
the bottom line is clear: run, don't walk away, if you encounter an ****d provider in thailand or elsewhere. a few moments of pleasure could turn into a nightmare than lasts the rest of your life.
evil
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don't forget that the Thai way of doing "age in years" is a bit different - 18 by the "year" not by the birthday - so even IF 2533 is the "year" (it's 2551 right now) there's that little matter of "DAY" (meaning that she could be "18" in her eyes, but not "legally")
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]You can get more information on the Foreign & Commonwealth Office Website
From that site:
".....It may be difficult to correctly judge a person’s age. If in doubt, err on the side of caution and remember you could be breaking the law and prosecuted."[/QUOTE]
This should be every punter/monger's mantra. How difficult is it to do this in a country with so many choices?
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Age of Consent?!?!?!?
What if the punter is only 17???
Ive seen plenty young lads in Pattaya, well below 18. Usually their dads paying for the girls.
Sid
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[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]What if the punter is only 17???
Ive seen plenty young lads in Pattaya, well below 18. Usually their dads paying for the girls.
Sid[/QUOTE]
Sid
If that's a serious question, I'd suggest you get in touch with the British Foreign Office for a legal answer.
The discussion here is about us old farts not ending up taking it up the Gary in the Bangkok Hilton due to wearing poor quality beer goggles.
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Sid, If that's a serious question, I'd suggest you get in touch with the British Foreign Office for a legal answer.The discussion here is about us old farts not ending up taking it up the Gary in the Bangkok Hilton due to wearing poor quality beer goggles.[/QUOTE]Ha, yes I agree, 'up the gary' is the last thing I would like to be experiencing expecially in the bkk hilton.
It was however, kind of serious, although as it would not affect me either, Im not too concerned about the answer. More just curious.
Sid
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[QUOTE=Harikke]Hi guys,
I will visit Pattaya with my 25 year old Filipino wife in June(i am a 40 year old swedish guy).
She is a tiny girl with a incredible smile and she is very submissive.
Besides the fact that we will have female companions, we are also interested in having some guys joining us at our hotel some evenings.
The best would be 2-3 friends who will come to our hotel and fuck all her holes, but single guys are also welcome to answer.
We enjoy sex to be wild and intence and it's nice if you enjoy to dominate, slap her a little, deep throating her and of course fucking her tight little ass.
We are not doing this for money, just for fun.
Everything must be with condom!
So send me an PM if you are in Pattaya during June this summer, and you wanna come to our hotel for some drinks and some wild and free sex.
PS: she is not very experienced yet, so "big" guys can be a problem.[/QUOTE]Sounds like fun. Shame I won't be in Pattaya in June. Are you active in the Philippines?
Take it this is your post on Escorttown. ([url]http://www.escorttown.com/escort-158-100072/[/url]).
GH
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First trip to Pattaya
I will be coming to Pattaya later on this year for the first time. I have read through the posts and have a pretty good handle on where to stay and where to go, but has anyone ever used the Classroom's shuttle service from Bangkok to Pattaya? I just want to know if it is worth it to use the service? So if you have any experience with it hit me up and let me know.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]A short report from my most recent trip to Pattaya. More will follow. As always with my posts, the pages are meant to be opened in numerical order. The girls are from Secrets on Soi 14, just off Walking Street in Pattaya.
Evil[/QUOTE]Thank you Evil for this nice pictures.
But I hope every ladies in Pattaya can do that.
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Songkran wednesday
Had a wander up Soi Diana last night hoping to bump into a fellow ISG member, didn't meet up but he did me a favour as I found a newbie from Nong kai in the New Orn bar. Had a good night with her she was very bubbly and a real laugh I am sure she hadn't been bar fined much and the fact that she couldn't play connect 4 confirmed she was new.
The best pair of legs I had seen all day and pretty, but she had more stretch marks than a trampoline just from one kid he must have been a 12 pounder!
Had a massage this afternoon on Soi honey same girl as last time Noi, 22 years old and petite has a snart mouth so definately not new but worth 200bht+500bht tip for the knuckle shuffle. There are some really good looking girls around town but the bars don't seem to have many, maybe most are GoGo girls.
Did take stunner from Tims beer bar on 2nd road 600bht bar and 1000 for her but after 1 shot she wanted to do a runner even though she had agreed long time (it was 4:00am when she got to room) lack lustre performance but worth it for the body.
intend to try Soi 6 tonight even though it is supposed to be a daytime venue may prove interesting, maybe meeting a fellow ISG member on route.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Sounds like fun. Shame I won't be in Pattaya in June. Are you active in the Philippines?
Take it this is your post on Escorttown. ([url]http://www.escorttown.com/escort-158-100072/[/url]).
GH[/QUOTE]
I'm there 21-30 June. I'll pm you nearer the time to see if you want to go ahead.
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[QUOTE=Red Matt]Hello all,
Had my second trip to Thailand recently, and more importantly the first to Pattaya.
Stayed at Anna Jet bar/guest house on soi 7, just under 500 baht a night for 13 nights. Think the price dropped to 400 and something because of the length of my stay. Ideal, clean, basic, digital wall safe, A/C, CCTV on the entrance stair well. No hassles bringing girls back (You pay for the room, the guest is your business), in fact the bar downstairs was full of available women. reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Interesting information.
I am going to Pattaya in May.
Does Anna Jet have some kind of booking facilities ( phone, e-mail)
Or do you think it is Ok just to walk in, since there is low season now?
Thanks for your help
L
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]I'm there 21-30 June. I'll pm you nearer the time to see if you want to go ahead.[/QUOTE]
I will miss meeting up with you as I am there from the 4th-1th juNE 2008
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[QUOTE=Laroche]Interesting information.
I am going to Pattaya in May.
Does Anna Jet have some kind of booking facilities ( phone, e-mail)
Or do you think it is Ok just to walk in, since there is low season now?
Thanks for your help
L[/QUOTE]
here the link : [url]http://www.annajet.co.uk/guesthouse.htm[/url]
But u can found much better !
IMO, room are shithole..
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Songkran wednesday
getting a little pissed off with the songkran festival, the girls seem happy to play with plastic water pistols during the day rather than the fleshy ones. met up with another forum member last night had a good evening cheers poopbunny, ended up with a dancer from club boesche on walking street, many previous postings about the place a very good line up but paid double the usual, 600bht bar and 2000bht all night sorry guys but it was quality and she treated me well.
not sure if it is because i am older now (50) or i have picked different types of girls or my attitude has changed, i have never had a problem getting a girl to leave in the morning they all have dressed and just left, i remember 3 or 4 years ago i had to tell them i was going for a jog and i wouldn't leave them alone in the room, this was the only way i could get them to leave!
i have a flight out on saturday afternoon the hotel have informed me that i need to leave saturday morning at the latest 8:00am otherwise i will not get out of pattaya with the last day of songkran, the taxi company have said if they can't get to soi 13 because of road blocks they will send a motor cycle to pick me up then transfer me to a car on sukumvit no doubt dripping wet through!
may the force be with you.
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'Free' sex in Pattaya!
Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.
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Oh Cheap Meat: you are disgusting!
I dont call this 'free sex'; this is called cheating. Thailand is a country where the main income is generated by tourists. I have never come across a gentleman, whether from America, or Europe who will think this way. These girls need money to live, this is their livelihood. Another important point is the risk that you will be taking. Thai people are honest and at the same time simple. But when you cheat them, they will never tolerate that. Believe me, they will cut off your penis and will send it home in a parcel. Be a gentleman and behave like a gentleman.
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Shame on you! ****!
Don't worry. If the girls can't find you, the BF ou brother will find you and make you regret that!
And I guess a lot of member here are ready also to kick your ass!
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]...Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
I have a better idea for guys like you who like it free ... stay home and jerk off. You aren't welcome here.
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Dnftt
Please don't feed the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll]trolls[/url].
[QUOTE=Marteau]Shame on u ! **** !
Don't worry..if the girls can't find you, the BF ou brother will find you and make u regret that !
And i guess a lot of member here r ready also to kick ur ass ![/QUOTE]
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You are sick
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Cheap Meat.
I know you do not have a lot of money from your previous post on the asian board, but clearly ripping off these WG is theivery. I hope that one of the WG points you out to their pimp/BF and they are going to show you several reasons why not to rip anyone off. You are totally SCUM. Why don't you come back to the US and try this routine to a WG in like Compton - a very nice suburb of Los Angeles..
You are a total SCUMBAG
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J A C K S O N - please !
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat] I simply don't pay the girls anymore.[/QUOTE]Cheap Meat,
Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson.
Do we have to allow such guys on your great forum ?
I can not even imagine a low life like that !!!!!
Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson.
Jackson - please !
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
You thieving disrespectful **** do you do a runner from a restaurant without paying.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I have a better idea for guys like you who like it free ... stay home and jerk off. You aren't welcome here.[/QUOTE]
Thats a great idea. stay at home
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.[/QUOTE]M**********R!
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
I truly hope you are joking. You are even lower than a human trafficker on the evolutionary scale.
How you sleep at night is beyond me.
But I have a feeling that one night when you are sitting alone at a bar you will get a beer bottle smacked across your head from a thai crack head hired by one of your 'freebies'.
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[QUOTE=PauloThai]Cheap Meat,
Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson.
Do we have to allow such guys on your great forum ?
I can not even imagine a low life like that !!!!!
Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson.
Jackson - please ![/QUOTE]
This Cheap Meat sounds like a classic troll to me, if not let's hope he get's a good kicking from a Thai pimp, he certainly deserves it.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]This Cheap Meat sounds like a classic troll to me, if not let's hope he get's a good kicking from a Thai pimp, he certainly deserves it.[/QUOTE]There are hardly any pimps in Pattaya. If you actually knew much about this town, which you don't, you'd know that. These girls stay together in small rooms. There are no men present.
So, I'm not afraid of anything. Just recently I picked up a girl on soi 13. Fucked her, then she wanted her money. You know what I did? Heheh. I drove her way out to sukhumvit and forced her off my motorbike (never paid her). I'm not making that up. I've done it before (pushed a girl into the ditch way outside Pattaya). And I don't care about the consequences because there haven't been any. I abuse the girls and I like it. Loll.
I get away with not paying the girls time and time again. You're just jealous cuz you don't get free poontang.
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat][/QUOTE]
The name says it all.
from another thread:
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole.[/QUOTE] maybe that's the explanation -- low self esteem.
Thought this one was ironic, in a China thread:
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat] If there was so much free sex everywhere, there would be no hookers and they wouldn't be able to charge anything. I know your types. You think you can get sex for nothing. I've seen some ads on adult listings and saw about 30 ads of guys looking for free sex with women. You know how many ads there were from women looking for free sex with men? About 3. So stop the myths! Sex isn't free. [/QUOTE]
or this:
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Isn't the 3rd World funny?
I mean, I feel like bill gates going to these cuntries. LOL. Hey, cool factoid. Did you know that Indonesia is as poor as india? Yep. The Philippines makes Indonesia look like luxembourg. Man, I just feel like a god when I walk around these places. Isn't that cool? Next time I'm gonna throw up a wad of worthless notes right in the middle of a street and watch the impoverished masses scramble to pick them up. Maybe I should film it and post it on youtube. It'd be a riot![/QUOTE]
Pretty impressive stuff.
CM, you're begging for trouble, and I don't think many people would be on your side when you get it. It's the way things like this work: you get away with it, and the trick continues to work -- until it doesn't. And that's going to be some day for you. I have to smile at the naive false sense of self-confidence you have about this. A Darwin Awards entry waiting to happen.
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Cheap skate
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
Wow your really cheap LOL.. You give new meaning to donkey = Asswhole LOL. I hope they never catch you alone and drunk... You might be missing more than your money.
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Paying the girls! It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, I get away with it. In fact, I have saved loads of money following these strategies. I have been able to have a blast in Pattaya on just 2, 000 baht a day. Now here's how I do it.
In order to get 'free' sex in Pattaya, you must find girls who are both naive and far away from your residence. Ideally, the girl would be inexperienced and shy. You do not want ladies who are aggresive in asking for money or ladies' drinks. They are more likely to come after you seeking payment.
Next, after you have fiI get free sex all the time here in Pattaya. You know how I do it? I simply avoid nished with your Long Time, you need to get her out of your room without paying her. If you stay in a room (such as a short time room) or have put your luggage somewhere else, you can just sneak out and dissappear.
Once she is out of your room and you haven't paid her, she is in your hands. Suggest that you and her go to Jomtien Beach for a bit of relaxation. You and her are sitting under one of those beach umbrellas. What a perfect time for you to go to the toilet! You make an excuse to go to the toilet while she stays there. Except, instead of going to the toilet, you head to your motorbike parked just past her sight down the road. Now you make your getaway and race back to your hotel room, check out, and check into a new hotel room! She has no idea where you are at now. Nor can she demand payment. Congradulations! You've just scored a 'freebie'!
Now there are many variations to this theme. For example, you could also suggest to her that she go to the hair salon or back to her room to change her clothes. You, being the trustworthy teelak, tell her that you'll come back and pick her up later. Only you never do!
If you have a motorbike, this makes everything all that easier. This is especially true when performing the 'driveoff' trick. Suppose your teelak wakes you up at the break of dawn and wants to go home. No problem, you say. You simply tell her that you'll take her back to her place. At no charge. She will no doubt agree to this proposal. You take her back to her room and drop her off. Just as she hops off your motorbike, you quickly say goodbye and drive off before she can ask for money. This take a little bit of skill, but with practice makes perfect!
Using these methods I have been able to get free sex here in Pattaya. I simply don't pay the girls anymore. It certainly helps stretch your budget during those long stays in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]WOW, you are my idol.
By the way, let me tell you some storys about naive girls that had been going with guys like you.
One be catched the day after at Beachroad by the girl and her friends. Instead of 500 baht that she wanted day before, she demanded 5000 baht or he would be beated up.
One girl asked the man at the room if he realy not gonna pay her, and he just laugh at her. Fine by me she say and crashed the hotel-TV and steal his passport.
Another girl come back with the police to the room and the police accused him for had be robbing her. That cost him 10.000 baht to avoid "monkeyhouse"
This is just 3 storys that I know for a fact is true, then I had heard a lot of others. I hope that one day day you meet one of these girls. More than 9 out of 10 girls will do nothing when they go with a man like you, but some day you will meet a girl that take action. And I hope that day comes soon. Nobody shall work for free, and for the girls this is work.
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if you really want to help the cheapster - just spread the word about him to the girls.
Pretty soon they will figure out who he is and then one of their "friends" will take action and maybe cheapster will speak with a squeaky voice.
NEVER, EVER CROSS A THAI - it has a way of coming back to haunt you. Conversely, being nice will help you in ways unimaginable.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy] Conversely, being nice will help you in ways unimaginable.[/QUOTE]
It can help while also draining your pocket book. Be smart and treat the low class thai people as other thais treat them, like scum. That will gain you respect! Being nice to low class thais gets you no where in thailand!
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kit wah khun pood thai mai dai. pood thai dai nit noi dtae mai geng.
you misinterpret "being nice" if you think it means "contributing" - it doesn't - it means "treating people the way you would like to be treated" (and seems to pay dividends to me, usually)
I guess it's just a Buddhist frame of mind that I adopt when I'm there
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]I'm not afraid at all buddy. The way I see it, they scam us, we scam them. It's fair play. I am not the pushover weakling I used to be. Either the world gives me sex or the world suffers. I won't be the one who suffers last though.[/QUOTE]
Ok, ok, it is now apparent that Cheap Meat is rattling our chains with his funny cheap Charlie jokes...
Nobody in reality could be that stupid.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Ok, ok, it is now apparent that Cheap Meat is rattling our chains with his funny cheap Charlie jokes...
Nobody in reality could be that stupid.[/QUOTE]
My guess is that Cheap Meat is not even who he says he is. Picture a 16 year old in the middle of Alabama, naked in front of his computer, jerking off at his own stories! that's Cheap Meat for you = an immature wanker.
Now if he really does live in PTY, and crosses the girls the way he describes, then I am affraid he is a lost cause. I can imagine why they say Pattaya is full of Lowlifes.
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RETURN TO FOCUS i.e. Forget about Cheap Meat
Listen fellow mongers, do not respond to this ass!
Everyone needs to ignore this idiot, and return to the real deal. Posting pics of hot WG's.
I hope Jackson sees these posts from cheap as derogatory, and destructive to international relations for all mongers. Block the guy and let him experience the coming Karma.
Cheers
Hummer
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Cheap Meat
Just click him into the ignore list like I did about 6 months ago and you never have to read his drivel again.
You can access your personal "Ignore List" under your User CP. Just login, select "User CP" from the top menu bar, then select "Buddy / Ignore Lists" from the left side column. Type in Cheap Meat and it is done.
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]The way I see it, they scam us, we scam them. It's fair play. I am not the pushover weakling I used to be. Either the world gives me sex or the world suffers. I won't be the one who suffers last though. [/QUOTE]
Heh heh. It's like some evil arch-nemesis in a superhero movie. At this point he'd laugh maniacally.
"You'll never catch ME, Spiderman! The world used to laugh at me, oh yes, but soon the world will learn its lesson, and you will all crawl at the feet of Cheap Meat!!!! Mwah hahahahahaha!!!!"
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Either the world gives me sex or the world suffers. [/QUOTE]
Free sex or... you'll destroy the planet?
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Heh heh. It's like some evil arch-nemesis in a superhero movie. At this point he'd laugh maniacally.
"You'll never catch ME, Spiderman! The world used to laugh at me, oh yes, but soon the world will learn its lesson, and you will all crawl at the feet of Cheap Meat!!!! Mwah hahahahahaha!!!!"
Free sex or... you'll destroy the planet?[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. At last.
This whole business puts me in mind of the effect a mischievous child would get when he stamps on an anthill:)
GH
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To Change the Tone
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s at about 1100. met a nice little girl there. had a beer with her for a little bit and then went upstairs. decided to do the large room. girl washed me very well in the tub and then herself. we proceeded to the bed. she gave a bbbj like a vacuum cleaner. she had me stiff in 30 seconds with her suction. i had her do this for about 5 minuts and then i got so horny i grabbed a condom and just fucked the hell out of her. she had a great little bod and nice small breasts with perky nipples. i came very fast and hard into her pussy. we started cuddling then for awhile before she started round 2 of bbbj. she sucked so hard again, i let her do this for about 10-15 minutes before i splurged all in her mouth. we showered again and dressed. 1500 baht to the house for a little over 1 hour. i of course tipped the girl nicely for the 2d pop.
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Just click him into the ignore list like I did about 6 months ago and you never have to read his drivel again.[/QUOTE]This obviouly isn't true because even though he is on your ignore list, you were still able to read what he wrote.
It doesn't take much to yank the chains of the Forum guard dogs but why is it so hard to detect an obvious provocateur?
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]I'm not afraid at all buddy. The way I see it, they scam us, we scam them. It's fair play. I am not the pushover weakling I used to be. Either the world gives me sex or the world suffers. I won't be the one who suffers last though.[/QUOTE]
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]This obviouly isn't true because even though he is on your ignore list, you were still able to read what he wrote. [/QUOTE]
Yes, although you have a member on Ignore there are 2 ways you can read his posts:
1. if someone else Quotes from that Ignored Member then you will see the quoted text but not the Original post.
2. You see that the Ignored member has posted, the message says: "This message is hidden because **** is on your ignore list." but you can still choose to read it if you hit the "View Post" button.
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I will not comment on the troll, but I will say that I have had a few aquaintances who, being young and attractive, sometimes felt they should get it 'for free'. In all cases however they quickly learned their lesson that this led to far more trouble than it was worth.
We need not worry that an epidemic of such cheaters will lead to the girls being hostile or worst of all demanding (as they do in the Thai oriented business in the rest of Thailand) prepayment. The fact is that nearly all mongers are sensible enough to prefer paying 500-1,300 baht rather than fleeing pathetically post-coitus and running about the town avoiding various girls.
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To Change the Tone Part 2 (1st time didn't work :))
went in the evening to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. a different set of girls work in the evening. found a nice girl with very long hair. i love long hair. went in, got a beer and talked awhile to make sure chemistry was at work. it was ! off to upstairs we go. this time try the small room. it is ok, no shower, and the wall doesn't go all the way up. a couple of inches are left open. get undressed and i get her to take her top off. she wipes me down and down she goes:). great technique for a bbbj. not a vacuum like the last one, but a very wet and squishy good feeling one. she gets me so horny that i also want her pussy. alas, her time of the month. i reach down to check. yep, a pad is there. so sad. but she continues with a great bbbj until i come into that sweet mouth. gave the usual amount to the house and the left over from the 1000 baht note to the girl as a tip.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]It can help while also draining your pocket book. Be smart and treat the low class thai people as other thais treat them, like scum. That will gain you respect! Being nice to low class thais gets you no where in thailand![/QUOTE]Be smart and treat low class Thai people as other's Thai people treat them? Like Scum? That will gain you respect? What planet are you from? A statement like that basically just shows you have no class.
Let me give you some fair warning about not being nice to low class Thai's - it may not get you anywhere, such as you suggest, but it just may save your life someday. I'm not kidding you.
By the way, what kind of man are you that carries a "pocket book" ?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]It can help while also draining your pocket book. Be smart and treat the low class thai people as other thais treat them, like scum. That will gain you respect! Being nice to low class thais gets you no where in thailand![/QUOTE]
I am sure you know a lot about being scum ----no offence meant.
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Well, what I mean is keep those that are low in their place. Don't be too nice. Don't treat tin like it is gold. Thais respect the status of individuals and when you are of higher status and you are too nice then you get no respect. My previous post was a bit harsh in tone[QUOTE=Arizonan]Be smart and treat low class Thai people as other's Thai people treat them? Like Scum? That will gain you respect? What planet are you from? A statement like that basically just shows you have no class.
Let me give you some fair warning about not being nice to low class Thai's - it may not get you anywhere, such as you suggest, but it just may save your life someday. I'm not kidding you.
By the way, what kind of man are you that carries a "pocket book" ?[/QUOTE]
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Phukkit - 2 weekends without bars!!!
Damn those politicians... they have an effing election! The bars are closed! (almost all of them in that 'Thai style' of closing)
Election Commission has announced that once again, alcohol sales and public celebrations are prohibited from 6 p.m. Saturday, April 26, until midnight Sunday, April 27.
Pattaya’s mayoral and city council elections are scheduled for May 4, meaning bars and entertainment places in Pattaya will be prohibited from selling alcohol next weekend, too, from 6 p.m. Saturday, May 3, until midnight Sunday, May 4.
Meaning both these 2 weekends will be great for the freelancers.. I guess there must be some very pissed off mongrels here :)
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election = Beach road packed
There will have been plenty on beach road.
Better to set up a date and stock up your room w/ booze!
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Back in Pattaya
after spending a very good october holiday here, i decided to make a return visit for this week. alas, i arrived last saturday, and had no idea there was an election underway, and was surprised to find the bars and walking street deserted. pattaya clearly would be dead without the sex. so i pretty much spent the weekend resting from the grueling workweek i had before coming here. meh.
anyway, glad to have the bars back open. so far my mongering's been limited to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s (they opened at 4pm yesterday) and soi six. there's a couple of girls at one of the bbbj bars who really floated my boat last time i was in town. alas, it seems they are now gone. hopefully i'm wrong on this.
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Pattaya Beer Garden Opens
It is based on the famous Beer Garden on Soi 7 in Bangkok. Apparently the opening night in Pattaya was a huge success. Read about it [URL="http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/"]Pattaya Beer Garden[/URL].
Evil
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Soi8 - one bar area closed down
And on Soi 8 the strech of bars on the same side as Sunshine Hotel is on has now been demolished. The last 2 are still standing, since they were not made of wood.
The rest of the bars on Soi 8 is still up and running. Just a big quiter and fewer girls to select from.
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Hotels In Pattaya
Hi Guys,
I am considering a trip to Pattaya soon, What Hotels could you recommend me for reasonable prices?
B71
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[QUOTE=Divine Baal]And on Soi 8 the strech of bars on the same side as Sunshine Hotel is on has now been demolished. The last 2 are still standing, since they were not made of wood.
The rest of the bars on Soi 8 is still up and running. Just a big quiter and fewer girls to select from.[/QUOTE]
The place is being updated and the cherry bar has moved to a complex in between soi13 & 13/1 near the right spot bar just off beach road near star bucks. It used to be kown as the butterfly bar and once the soi 8 section has reopen they are going to keep both bars running.
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Photo guide - Street Level map of Pattaya
Saw this posted on another forum. It's a really amazing site.
[quote]Hello,
Just stumbled across this the other night. I don't know if it has been posted before, but a search pulled up no results so I thought I would share it.
It uses Google maps, but has the whole center of Pattaya mapped out in photos. It's kind of neat to be able to check it out before heading there.
Anyway enjoy. ;)
[url]http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/[/url][/quote]
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Hotels in Pattaya
I always stay at the Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
Short walk to everything, but still not a noisy soi.
I prefer the sea view rooms at about 1500 a night, but if you dont need the sea view you can get the same size room at 1200.
Book at wwww.scandibar.com
Then you dont even have to use your credit card.
And you will get a free beer every day at Scandinavian bar and resaurant in beach road.
Only give a message some time before if you not intend to show up for your booking.
Regards,
Ken
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[QUOTE=Belanov71]Hi Guys,
I am considering a trip to Pattaya soon, What Hotels could you recommend me for reasonable prices?
B71[/QUOTE]It depends what you mean by "reasonable price." How much are looking to spend per night on a hotel room? In Pattaya, there are rooms ranging from 400 baht to 10,000 baht a night. What price level is "reasonable" to you?
Evil
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]It depends what you mean by "reasonable price." How much are looking to spend per night on a hotel room? In Pattaya, there are rooms ranging from 400 baht to 10,000 baht a night. What price level is "reasonable" to you?
Evil[/QUOTE]Well I was thinking about €30 per night!
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Hopefully you will post a report after your Pattaya trip since 3 of your other 4 posts are asking questions too but unless you are someone famous or have a real need to be secretive; Pattaya is one place where I would not recommend any type of escort agency. Man, step out of your room and you can do it with your eyes closed or ask the bell man/security guard to assist you. Be mindful with escort agencies that you always have to be aware of the bait and switch. Eden/Hell Club=Anal
[QUOTE=Svatkova]Hello,
I have read alot in this forum, and I understand that I am abit different from the rest of you:)
I like to look at my girls and book them through the net. So I normally use Escort agencies.
I know this is more expensive, but I can live with that.
So my question is if any of you can recommend an agency in Pattaya?
Have found [url]www.pattaya1.com[/url] and it looks good, but since I can't find reviews I hope for some help.
Question 2: is it difficult finding thai girls who do anal?
Keep up the good work![/QUOTE]
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Go-Go's Go Dark
Went to Walking Street last night only to discover all the usual action spots closed until tonight at midnight due to elections or some such baloney. Seems like this happens fairly frequently here in Pattaya and I'm always the last person to know.
Is anyone aware of an accurate calendar list of these annoying events published somewhere on the net?
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[QUOTE=Belanov71]Well I was thinking about €30 per night![/QUOTE]
My vote goes to girl friendly LK Metropole or LK Renaissance at Soi Diane it is centrally placed between Soi 6 (North) and Walking Street (South).
On days that you might not be bothered walking that far (20mins), there are even pubs across the road.
Starts from about B1800, but if your stay is not long and can afford it, go for the Deluxe (or even the Suite). There you would experience opulence you can never find in Western Europe for anywhere near that price.
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[quote=poopbunny]my vote goes to girl friendly lk metropole or lk renaissance at soi diane it is centrally placed between soi 6 (north) and walking street (south).
on days that you might not be bothered walking that far (20mins), there are even pubs across the road.
starts from about b1800, but if your stay is not long and can afford it, go for the deluxe (or even the suite). there you would experience opulence you can never find in western europe for anywhere near that price.[/quote]hi poopbunny,
are not all pattaya hotels girl friendly? would you advice a double room? could you send a link for these hotels?
b71
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[quote=belanov71]hi poopbunny,
are not all pattaya hotels girl friendly? would you advice a double room? could you send a link for these hotels?
b71[/quote]
no not all hotels are gf have a look on the pattaya hotel section of the board plus you can also run the names through a search engine .
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[quote=belanov71]hi poopbunny,
are not all pattaya hotels girl friendly? would you advice a double room? could you send a link for these hotels?
b71[/quote]
always book a double room however if the hotel is not "girl friendly" you will still have to pay a joiner fee.
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[quote=belanov71]hi poopbunny,
are not all pattaya hotels girl friendly? would you advice a double room? could you send a link for these hotels?
b71[/quote]
no, not all hotels in pattaya (and in thailand for that matter) are girl friendly. some may request a "joiner fee" (b500 - b1500) and some may impose restrictions on use of facilities by your "guest" or may demand that they leave the hotel before a certain time in the morning.
almost all budget hotels (daily rate b1000 and below) are gf. some are really just guest residences rather than hotels and don't care who you take to your room. they may be clean but facilities may also be basic, no pool, no breakfast inc...etc. the choice for most long term stay residents..like months.
there are only a few upmarket hotels in pattaya that will tolerate your "guest".
i have not found a comprehensive guide or list anywhere, just to odd posting on this forum or other forums as which hotel was gf or not gf
lk was one that met my specification standard, with reasonable rates and yet not charge a joiner fee. all beds are double/king sized. i think they may request an additional fee to cover breakfast if you brought back 2 girls, but i never did. they would request your "guest" leave her id (or his id, in the case of "ladyboys") . this is really a good thing and for your protection so you don't get ripped off. i was talking to one of the concierge about the girl scene, he said he could arrange a hottie for me if i did not find any in the bar scene. will post my adventures soon.
the impression i got was lk was actually a development group that sold or leased upmarket apartments but also had their finger in the hotel scene ie. lk metropole, lk royal suites, lk mansion and now lk renaissance.
see attached map. (i believe soi metro on the map is aka. soi diana). you should bring this with you to help the airport taxi's find it. renaissance is just further down the road (about 50m) from metropole on the same street (soi diana) but not always visible at street level from a taxi. my taxi driver missed it the first time around and had to get directions.
the main lk site is here
[url]http://www.lkpattaya.com/[/url]
but there is no site up for the renaissance yet (i think its new), so my renaissance booking was actually made through lk metropole.
[url]http://www.lkpattayahotel.com/metropole/index.html[/url]
the reservation e-mail address is
[email]lk_rsvn@yahoo.com[/email]
i was a bit suspect about a yahoo e-mail but it is valid.
do bring / print out email of your reservation. when i arrived, they screwed up my reservation and thought my departure date was my arrival date. they did make up for it by upgrading my deluxe room to a 80 sqm suite with 2 large screen tvs for only b200 extra, a real bargain. only at the venetian macau had i experienced this opulence but that room cost me us$350+ per night.
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[quote=poopbunny]no, not all hotels in pattaya (and in thailand for that matter) are girl friendly. some may request a "joiner fee" (b500 - b1500) and some may impose restrictions on use of facilities by your "guest" or may demand that they leave the hotel before a certain time in the morning.
almost all budget hotels (daily rate b1000 and below) are gf. some are really just guest residences rather than hotels and don't care who you take to your room. they may be clean but facilities may also be basic, no pool, no breakfast inc...etc. the choice for most long term stay residents..like months.
there are only a few upmarket hotels in pattaya that will tolerate your "guest".
i have not found a comprehensive guide or list anywhere, just to odd posting on this forum or other forums as which hotel was gf or not gf
lk was one that met my specification standard, with reasonable rates and yet not charge a joiner fee. all beds are double/king sized. i think they may request an additional fee to cover breakfast if you brought back 2 girls, but i never did. they would request your "guest" leave her id (or his id, in the case of "ladyboys") . this is really a good thing and for your protection so you don't get ripped off.
the impression i got was lk was actually a development group that sold or leased upmarket apartments but also had their finger in the hotel scene ie. lk metropole, lk royal suites, lk mansion and now lk renaissance.
see attached map. (i believe soi metro on the map is aka. soi diana). you should bring this with you to help the airport taxi's find it. renaissance is just further down the road (about 50m) from metropole on the same street (soi diana) but not always visible at street level from a taxi. my taxi driver missed it the first time around and had to get directions.
the main lk site is here
[url]http://www.lkpattaya.com/[/url]
but there is no site up for the renaissance yet (i think its new), so my renaissance booking was actually made through lk metropole.
[url]http://www.lkpattayahotel.com/metropole/index.html[/url]
the reservation e-mail address is
[email]lk_rsvn@yahoo.com[/email]
i was a bit suspect about a yahoo e-mail but it is valid.
do bring / print out email of your reservation. when i arrived, they screwed up my reservation and thought my departure date was my arrival date. they did make up for it by upgrading my deluxe room to a 80 sqm suite with 2 large screen tvs for only b200 extra, a real bargain. only at the venetian macau had i experienced this opulence but that room cost me us$350+ per night.[/quote]thanks for your tip, i just want a nice hotel not over posh. what about these other hotels that have been mentioned [url]http://www.sandyspringhotel.com/[/url] and [url]http://www.sunshinepattaya.com/[/url] are these girl friendly? i am looking for a hotel no more than 1.600 per night as i would stay for more than two weeks.
b71
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Nice hotel, 850B
This is my first but not last report and its my first, but not last, trip to Thailand
nice hotel:
[url]http://www.sunviewplacepattaya.com/rate.html[/url]
GF hotel if you bring only one.
She has to register at the reception (but its the best for us)
Amirs
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Secrets Bar, Angel Witch and Babby Dolls
I had 3 days and nights in Pattaya. I had one girl per night. The first 2 were from Secrets, neither of them stunners but I was happy with both. I really liked the place. I met the Mamasan and bought her a drink which she reciprocated. First girl was Su. She was a little hardened but good fun. I enjoyed being with her.
My second girl was Dow. She is a real treasure. A beautiful GFE. Highly recommended. This was on the no-alcohol night so I learned I can enjoy a girl even more when totally sober.
In between drinks at Secrets, I visited Angel Witch and was very impressed by the show. It is of course mostly erotic but it merits a recommendation as entertainment in its own right, a really professional production. If you get there when the numbered girls are dancing on stage, just hang on and after a while the real show resumes. Very highly recommended.
I also visited Baby Dolls to see what a more basic Pattaya go-go bar does. It involves a lot of very hard green bananas, oil and two foot lengths of what looks like domestic pipe insulation, this is used by the girls to whack each other on the bottom. Good sound efects and hopefully not painful.
Unlike at Angel Witch, I was surrounded by dancers vying for my attention and took one away (LT like the others). Going with a dancer is something you have to do at least once. Something to do with having what guys have been lusting after.
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Pattaya: Thailand's "Sodom & Gemorah"?
I haven't been to Thailand yet. My friend says that Pattaya is known as Thailand's wildest city. Is it crazier than BKK and other cities? From what I've read about the bars, girls, etc., it seems kind of comparable. Agree? Disagree?
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hotel
[QUOTE=Belanov71]Thanks for your tip, I just want a nice Hotel not over posh. What about these other Hotels that have been mentioned [url]http://www.sandyspringhotel.com/[/url] and [url]http://www.sunshinepattaya.com/[/url] are these girl friendly? I am looking for a hotel no more than 1.600 per night as I would stay for more than two weeks.
B71[/QUOTE]
How about the sabai lodge new wing. Price not bad and GF.
Also at the LK Metro asked for long term rate because my stay was close but not long enough but they did give me the rate. Just ask.. Also stayed at the five star but that hotel is a 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 Star hotel. Staff was nice but hotel leaved much to be desired LOL..
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[QUOTE=Belanov71]Thanks for your tip, I just want a nice Hotel not over posh. What about these other Hotels that have been mentioned [url]http://www.sandyspringhotel.com/[/url] and [url]http://www.sunshinepattaya.com/[/url] are these girl friendly? I am looking for a hotel no more than 1.600 per night as I would stay for more than two weeks.
B71[/QUOTE]
Based on some of the pool pictures I saw that had LBFM swimming in them, I would say those hotels are probably GF, but you should e-mail them and ask.
The rates did not include breakfast. If I was going to spend B1600 without breakfast or B1800 for a much nicer room with American breakfast (eggs, bacon, sausages, etc) I know which I would pick.
I normally have breakfast quite late and skip lunch then I have an early dinner or a lunch snack then a late dinner.
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[QUOTE=Rio Joe]I haven't been to Thailand yet. My friend says that Pattaya is known as Thailand's wildest city. Is it crazier than BKK and other cities? From what I've read about the bars, girls, etc., it seems kind of comparable. Agree? Disagree?[/QUOTE]
I was told, Angeles City, Philippines.
IMO, girls may look a tad better but the place lacks upmarket dining and decent hotels. The "luxury" hotel are no better than standard hotels in Pattaya. It sort of looks a bit like Pattaya in its infancy. Angeles City may also be a bit of a pain to get to.
When I met up with fellow monger LukeSkyWanker, he had planned to go there, but changed his mind at the last minute because of "logistical" difficulties in either transport/accomodation, so he ended up in Pattaya instead where I met up with him. Will post full report later.
I can also recommend Patong Beach, Phuket, Thailand. Its like a smaller version of Pattaya.
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can we please start putting the hotel questions and comments in the proper thread? there is a 'pattaya hotels' thread.
thanks!
[quote=poopbunny]based on some of the pool pictures i saw that had lbfm swimming in them, i would say those hotels are probably gf, but you should e-mail them and ask.
the rates did not include breakfast. if i was going to spend b1600 without breakfast or b1800 for a much nicer room with american breakfast (eggs, bacon, sausages, etc) i know which i would pick.
i normally have breakfast quite late and skip lunch then i have an early dinner or a lunch snack then a late dinner.[/quote]
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I want to go to Thailand for the first time, in August? What city would I have most fun? I hope you guys can give me some tips. I'm all new at this: D
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Although I am aware that it would probably not be good to fill this thread with 'Hi, I'm new please help me' messages, I want to go ahead with this one. For a reason.
I’m a 21-year old Dutchman who will visit Thailand, and South East Asia, for the first time in his life. Although I plan to do a lot of things, mongering will – of course – be one of them. I was wondering if there is somenone here who would want to give me a few pointers on where to go/what to do. I was thinking about staying in Bangkok only a short while and then go straight away to Pattaya. If you do something, why not at the best place for it right? Or is Pattaya’s advantage over other places in Thailand overrated?
I'm posting here because I thought maybe there is someone out there who (experienced or green like me) who would like to meet up sometime and exchange notes or just have some beers. I already have contact with a bargirl there who wants to show me around, but some fellow monger advice would be appreciated very much.
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Massage ladies are the best for mongering
[QUOTE=Van Velen]Although I am aware that it would probably not be good to fill this thread with 'Hi, I'm new please help me' messages, I want to go ahead with this one. For a reason.
I’m a 21-year old Dutchman who will visit Thailand, and South East Asia, for the first time in his life. Although I plan to do a lot of things, mongering will – of course – be one of them. I was wondering if there is somenone here who would want to give me a few pointers on where to go/what to do. I was thinking about staying in Bangkok only a short while and then go straight away to Pattaya. If you do something, why not at the best place for it right? Or is Pattaya’s advantage over other places in Thailand overrated? ...[/QUOTE]
I've been in both Bangkok and Pattaya. And I couldn't stand Bangkok. Too much polution in the air. And after some people there tried to take advantage of me. I got disgusted and left Bangkok for Pattaya.
One good thing in Bangkok is that it has a lot more people, which includes more bars, more go-go places, and more massage places to have fun at.
But Pattaya is pretty good too. And it's a lot more quiet and relaxed than Bangkok is. The distances are smaller, which means that you can simply walk from place to place. And the hotels in Pattaya are better priced and more accommodating when it comes to bringing the lady to your room for the night.
One problem you might have in Pattaya is staying with the same lady you've arranged to show you around. Many streets there are lined with open air bars and go-go places. And you'll have to deal with many temptations, especially when you go for an evening walk.
As long as you have a female escort. Then the other ladies won't bother you too much. But if you happen to be alone in the evening. Then the semi-naked ladies will be all over you. And you will have a hard time getting away, unless you choose one of them to go with you of course.
One thing you have to be careful of is drinking too much alcohol. The ladies there are paid to encourage foreign customers to drink. And you can easily end up drinking too much. Which can lead to all kinds of problems because you loose your good judgement when you drink too much.
If it's not a girlfriend you are looking for but a good ride. Then a massage parlour is the best place to go to for that. Search Google for 'Pattaya Massage'. And you'll find the addresses of all massage places in Pattaya.
I've been with ladies from bars and ladies from massage places. And there is no comparison when it comes to sex. The ladies in massage places are a lot better at giving their man a good ride, or two, or however many you want. And there is a good reason for it. The massage ladies tend to be a bit older, more mature, and a lot more experienced.
A thirty-year-old lady can be just as sexy and attractive as a younger woman is. But she knows a lot more about what to do and how to do it. And she is not shy about it either. If you act shy with her. Then she will likely teach you a thing or two about how to enjoy your time with the sexy lady. Which can be educational for a young man like yourself.
My most pleasurable and most sex-educational experiences have been with massage ladies. Most of these ladies really are the best of the best. And going to a massage parlour is something I recommend you do, if you want to have some real fun with an attractive woman who knows how to debauch her young horny man.
If you want to have some real fun. Then avoid haggling over the money. Give the lady her regular pay as soon as the two of you get inside the massage room. And then she'll have nothing to worry about except pleasing you and trying to make sure that you'll like being with her so much that you'll want come back again and again.
One thing you've got to be careful of is sexually transmitted diseases. Condoms do help. But they are not 100% effective. Massage ladies do a lot more men than bar ladies do. And all their practice and experience makes the massage ladies very, very good at what they do. But perhaps it also makes them a bit more dangerous in terms of possible STD's.
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Ladies
Hi Guys,
I will be going to my first trip to Pattaya in September is any bars you can recommend for beautiful ladies and for good service.
WC
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[quote=poopbunny]i was told, angeles city, philippines.
imo, girls may look a tad better but the place lacks upmarket dining and decent hotels. the "luxury" hotel are no better than standard hotels in pattaya. it sort of looks a bit like pattaya in its infancy. angeles city may also be a bit of a pain to get to.
when i met up with fellow monger lukeskywanker, he had planned to go there, but changed his mind at the last minute because of "logistical" difficulties in either transport/accomodation, so he ended up in pattaya instead where i met up with him. will post full report later.
i can also recommend patong beach, phuket, thailand. its like a smaller version of pattaya.[/quote]
i was there three weeks ago for 5 days. angeles city is a miniature of pattaya about one tenth of pattaya i would say and with no beaches.
imho not worth going if you can visit pattaya instead.
i don't think i will ever go there again. thailand is offering too many more options than phlippines. the only plus was the language and the 10-15% lower prices . almost all of them speak some english.
el greco
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I was wondering what's the position of Pattaya girls towards condom use?
I have been to BKK where safe sex was 100%¨and even some girls wouldn't go BBBJ even for nice tip :) , while in Angeles City it's like 100% BB, BBFS + BBBJ.
Don't flame, people that want go to go BB go BB, people that go cover are safe so shouldn't worry about barebackers, consenting adults can play russian roulette if they want :)
It's just an educational question, when comparing the two "mekka's" of sexual tourism in Asia.
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[QUOTE=Wearhouse Clown]Hi Guys,
I will be going to my first trip to Pattaya in September is any bars you can recommend for beautiful ladies and for good service.
WC[/QUOTE]
It would probably be more fun to find out for yourself which bars you like.
Pattaya is easy to just wander around and check out the bars. None of the go-go's charge for admission so it will only cost you the price of a drink to take a look, if you don't like it, move on to the next bar.
I'm sure you'll find something you like.
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[QUOTE=Gwailo]It would probably be more fun to find out for yourself which bars you like.
Pattaya is easy to just wander around and check out the bars. None of the go-go's charge for admission so it will only cost you the price of a drink to take a look, if you don't like it, move on to the next bar.
I'm sure you'll find something you like.[/QUOTE]I meant do most of Thai upper scale girls DFK & BBBJ?
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[QUOTE=Wearhouse Clown]I meant do most of Thai upper scale girls DFK & BBBJ?[/QUOTE]
Most will DFK, some will bbbj and some won't. You can ask her, some of the top go-go girls might not.
There are plenty of girls to try so I'm sure you'll find a few that you like. Just ask for what you want, they've heard it all before.
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Secrets Report
Hope this report isn't too long winded but here goes:
I was in Pattaya in March for a couple of days before going to Phnom Penh to be with my Cambodian gf. I stayed at Secrets for the two nights. I made the normal rounds around Walking Street and Beach Road but didn’t quite find anything to my liking so I ended up in my room back at Secrets for a short nap. Around 10 pm I decided to check out the bar. The bar is pretty decent with a few coyote dancers and lots of bar girls. The girls range in looks from 5’s to a few 9’s. A girl named Dear sits next to me at the bar and starts chatting. I’d say she was a 6. 5. The usual "where you from" "how long you stay" blah blah blah transpires. Of course I buy a couple of lady drinks for her and another girl and the mamasan comes around wanting one too. That gets old real fast.
Anyway, my girl wants me to barfine her. I wasn’t really into her, not ugly but not pretty either but I figured what the hell. But first I wanted to enjoy the ambiance of the place for a little while. I hate being rushed out of the bar. As we talk she jokes about being a lady boy. I don’t like that shit so I wanted to check. She would not let me check. I didn’t think she was a lady boy but now I am wondering, really getting a good look at her. She says I can find out in the room.
Finally, around 12:30, we talk price. She wants 2, 000, I say too much and we agree on 1, 500 LT. I barfine her. I think it was 600B but don’t remember for sure. Upstairs to my room. Once in the room before she gets too comfortable I want to check on that L/B joke from earlier. I try to reach up her skirt to make sure there is no dick there but she pushes my hand away. Red Alert Red Alert. Now I am starting to get pissed. By this time somehow we are sitting on the bed so I reach again much more forcibly and get a good feel of her crotch. There is something there alright. Not a dick but a pad. She says her period is just ending and it is ok. I say let me look. She shows me her pad and it has a small trace of blood on it. I am not very happy about this but we’re this far already and I’m tired of fu%king around.
I don’t might bangin’ my g/f when she’s on the rag but when I’m paying good money for it that’s different. I’m surprised a better place like Secrets allows their girls to work while on the rag. I don’t know if this is common but I have not run into it before.
Ok, off to the shower. She takes a shower while I wait. Usually I like to join but for some reason didn’t this time. She comes out I go in for a quick shower. We get on the bed she’s laying there naked displaying a very nice rack. Nice C cups. Beautiful tits. She didn’t look this good in her outfit. Maybe it won’t be so bad after all. She wants me to suck them. I oblige. After a minute or two of sucking I reach down to check her oil and she is soaking wet. Ok, things are looking up. By this time I can sense that she is really into me. She keeps trying to kiss me but I tell her I can’t because of my g/f in Cambodia (I had to think of something to say to get me out of it without hurting her feelings as I am soft hearted) Normally I love to dfk but I wasn’t really into this chick that way. She says "hey, you said you don’t have girlfriend". Oops, can’t remember everything I tell these chicks. She gets over it quickly after I gently ram my farang cock into her slippery pussy and she moans like a porn star. As it has been a couple of weeks since my member has felt action after a couple of minutes I blow a load inside her (condom, of course) missionary style. We clean up and as I am still jet-lagged from the 20 hours of flying I tell her I need sleep.
I wake up a couple hours later feeling horny. I reach over to see if she put her panties back on. No. I reach for a condom, slip it on, scoot myself over to within striking distance. She is now somewhat awake. I slowly slide it inside her from behind. She gives a sexy moan. She turns to lay on her back, I am on my side, her left leg in the air. I am pounding away with a steady rythym and she is moaning and saying my name. I finally blow another load inside her. Wow! I needed that! Clean up, back to sleep. What a good girl.
Wake up around 6am to her playing with my cock. Wow! Wish she was hot enough to kiss. I tell her if she wants it she has to get on top, cowgirl. I didn’t have to twist her arm. She gets on top as I lie there enjoying the service. She slides my member into her tight, juicy cooch and rides me like a rented Harley as she leans forward to let me suck those nice titties. This girl loves sex. After about 15 minutes she had already cum two times. I love making the girls cum, gives me some satisfaction. I’m a giver. I tell her I want to drive. I take her doggy style. Five minutes of pounding results in a blast that would make Dirty Harry proud. Damn! We are both exhausted now and clean up then back to sleep.
Four hours later I wake up. Dear is sleeping on her stomach. I think one more time ought to do it. I quietly slip on yet another condom. I put her legs together, she awakes, I mount her while she is still laying on her stomach. Slid it in. Not as easy this time as she is tight and not juicy right now. It finally eases in. She is quietly moaning again. I love this position. I try to slip my thumb in her ass but she reaches back and pulls my hand away. I guess anal is out of the question! After pounding away for a while then switching to a couple different positions I realize it just ain’t gonna happen this time, not from lack of effort on her part, she is a trooper. Finally I give up. We shower together. I invite her to breakfast or by this time lunch. She has to be back at Secrets by 1pm because they are having a birthday party for one of the girls. We went back to Secrets. She goes to the bar and I go up to my room. I give her the 1500 + 200 tip. She wants me to come back that night for round two. I did go back but did not take a girl back to my room.
Overall the sex was great. Very enthusiastic. No cell phone interruptions. I didn’t like that she was still sort of on her period. Nice bar but too much pressure for lady drinks at Secrets. Also, one of the girls that works the service desk at the hotel kept flirting with me, wanting to come up to the room with me. She wasn’t my type. Good hotel for the price 850 baht.
Southbound69
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[QUOTE=Gwailo]Most will DFK, some will bbbj and some won't. You can ask her, some of the top go-go girls might not.
There are plenty of girls to try so I'm sure you'll find a few that you like. Just ask for what you want, they've heard it all before.[/QUOTE]I am sure they have *LOL*. one final question what are the prices in those bars for an overnight? and do the ladies expect decent tips?
Thanks in advance
WC
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[QUOTE=Wearhouse Clown]I meant do most of Thai upper scale girls DFK & BBBJ?[/QUOTE]Unlike in europe where upper class escorting usually means top service like DFK, BBBJ, CIM etc. In Thailand (note that I've only been to BKK and not to Pattaya) I found that money only buys beauty, not services.
I've gone to some high end MP like Poseidon, or some high end club like Pegasus where I've received some rather poor service.
On the other hand you can pick up a cheap girl from Nana that will be full service.
So always ask for services to avoid bad surprises.
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4 day - Long report.
Day 1
Arrived in Bangkok today from Macau (see my Macau report) I check in at LK Renaissance, this is the only decent GF hotel I could find in the Bht2500 upwards range. It is more than most pay here from what I have read, but as I don’t get much time off, I am willing to spend a little more. This is smack in the middle of Songkran Festival. Fuck I thought that was the previous week. This is such an intense party town everyone is getting a good drenching from water fights. I have no interest in venturing out in the man made monsoon that starts from around midday until dusk. Eventually I venture out towards walking street and see a few average looking SW, all the stunners seems to be in the arms of someone else. Disappointed, I head out to beach road to check the talent. From walking St to about Soi 6, I see about 3 potential take-away. The first one looked cute, went up to talk to her, then she opened her mouth and saw her severely misaligned teeth that scared me, so I walked, The next one was much younger and sort of looked like one of the hot LBFM girls at my work. She caught me checking her out and instead of coming over she retorted something to the tune off “WTF are you looking at”. The 3rd was sort of nice until I went up close and had the inklings that it was a transvestite, I asked to see some ID and the picture of a guy on it confirmed my worst fears, so I walked. Bruised ego, I headed back to my hotel figuring I could probably pick an average looking one across the road. There are a cluster of bars opposite Mike Shopping on Second Road, deep inside I stumbled across this go-go called Hottie Club that has stunners. My eyes fixed on a tall hot slim dancer right away. She was perfect except for tattoos around the waist (more than usual but not excessive for my taste) I decide she would be the one for me but this other one, quite hot but IMO not as hot clung to me right away. She looked like Barbie Benton, not really my style but some people like that look. One thing I know from experience your chances of GFE are better with a girl that actually likes you and she seemed to. So I BF her B600, drink was B100, LT B2000 (that was as low as she would go) and a B100 tip for the fat waitress. I don’t normally tip that much but she gave me good advice on the girls and how things happened around here. BBBJ was negotiated before hand and I took her back for the night. She was alright, got my GFE kissing & bbbj. My only complain that I had to ask for another round in the morning, although I did get it, I hate having to ask, so I wrote her off for future “take away”.
Day 2
I see the girl I had from the night before and she greets me like her long lost friend. I say hi and walk on. With more intel gathered from ISG Pattaya, I go back to walking street. This time I go inside Tony’s, as mentioned in the past, all the hotties copped the usual attitude so I pass them over. In all honesty the only truly 10/10 ones on walking street were the kha-toeys (post op trannies) and the odd Caucasian female tourist. I would have given no more than 9/10 for even the stunning Thai females. I actually considered the kha-toeys. Heck if they look that hot and if I can’t tell the difference, why the hell not. I spotted one that I thought I might give a shot later and the only thing that gave the game away was that she hung out with the obvious trannies otherwise I would not have known. Ah… maybe I’ll do her on my last day if nothing decent arises.
I make my way into Club Boeshce and behold, all the hotties are there. Half the girls were dancing naked. About 2 were at the top, covered in soap on a transparent plexi platform so patrons could also look up and see them bath, with the air-cond it must be cold for them I thought. The other half were entertaining patrons, dancing etc. Puki caught my eye right away. She says she does not do LT regardless of the price, I move on to another, and the second one says she does but would not stay past 9AM (too early for me). I must admit I was unrelaxed and was being a little mercenary (point & fuck) trying to secure a bedwarmer for the night but my feet were tired and I just wanted to go. I finally agreed to go with Puki (after all I don’t sleep that well with someone I don’t know but it’s nice to have pussy in the morning). Puki in my eyes was a real stunner and looked better than any other Thai girl I had seen on the scene to date. Drinks was about B100, BF B600 and the girl B1500. Puki’s English was actually not bad, so we had a great time and lots of laughs. She enjoyed my company so much she stayed another hour longer. She had stretch marks left over from having a baby but delivered via C section but she was still pretty damn tight. I actually had trouble fitting my penis in, so tight, I nearly resorted to using a shoehorn. Puki said that the father of her child was screwing around so she told him to take a walk and he did, but has tried to get back with her lately, I told her its too late for him because she’s all mine now and she had a good laugh. Good GFE kissing and decent bbbj. At one point my penis was not that hard (from reduced sensitivity from condoms), she offered to finish me off with her mouth, what a trooper. I did not mind the stretch marks too much as I was looking at her face rather than her stomach. She was so beautiful and reminded me of the hot LBFM wife of a fat balding storeman at work, so that is another fantasy nailed. All in all a great night.
When we left Boeshe, one bargirl along the Soi pretended to throw some water at me (Fucking Songkran!!). She then smiled and I spotted a stud on her tongue. I have a weakness for pierced tongues, so I’ll do her tomorrow.
Day 3
First I go to the “Classroom” to look for “Da142”, because she was a carbon copy of another hot LBFM wife from someone at work, and it would be a great fantasy for me. Unfortunately “Da142” was not available as she had retuned home for at least the duration I was there. I did not see anything else I liked, so I left.
I return to look for the girl with the pierced tongue but she was not there. Walked up and down walking street. After 1 or 2 hours she still was not there. I was hoping she might be engaged for ST and might return later but never saw her. Finally I did spot a hottie with a pierced tongue in a bar called “Performance” (blue sign written on a Cadillac/Ford Fairlane type font). She was pretty stuck up but I was pretty desperate for a hottie with a pierced tongue.. I bought her a drink and asked if she wanted to go with me. She had lost her ID so only ST was possible but bbbj was ok. So BF400 Drinks about B200, room B300 and her B1000. She was average and her studded bbbj was not that great, I did not even feel the stud and at one point wondered if she still had it on. I guess the good thing was that sex lasted pretty long because of the thick condoms, I pounded her hard and she squeeled a little. I think she said her name was Tika or maybe it was Taki. This night was not so good.
Day 4
Last night. I go across the bars opposite my hotel (Puki actually asked why I had gone all the way to her bar to pick her when there was plenty here). The cluster of bars on Soi Diane is closer to second road but these were different from the ones on second road opposite Mike Shopping. These bars are next to the pool hall (I saw some hostesses there too and I will try them for next time). There are 2 rows of bars, I go to the 2nd row behind the road and spotted a hottie. I asked if I could barfine her and she said I could, but no bbbj so I walked. On my way out, the last bar (closest to the pool hall behind the main road) I spot an average looking girl smiling at me. Spotted her pierced tongue and I was hooked. “Tip” was a tad on the heavier side but not what I would call fat, just not your typical super slim pixie. She agreed to bbbj so I BF her B300, and for her B500. I told her to use my pool in the hotel. Up until then I had not used the pool and I gave her a skimpy bikini I had brought along for her use. I got good GFE out of her and we were kissing in the hotel pool. After maybe 30mins we went to my room where I got one of the best bbbj I can remember for a long time. She knew how to use her tongue and I felt the stud! I would rank her as one of the best stud bbbj out there. Sex was also good. And I tipped her an additional B200 after. Although I can pay the premium prices asked, I try to bid them down where possible so as not to spoil the market but I do tip them when above average service is rendered.
Later I caught up with fellow ISG member LukeSkyWanker (LSW) at the New Orn pub across my hotel. I had just missed a hilarious episode where a guy was chatting up this nice slim bar girl only to be spotted by another older punter. The older guy offered the younger punter B5000 to take a walk so that he could have a go. She was good, but not B5000 good.
Compared notes with LSW over dinner then we went over to Beach House go-go which I would have missed if not for LSW. Beach House is a gogo where dancer with short mini skirts on mirrored tables so you could see what you were getting, very good concept. There were a couple of ladies there I made a mental note of for later if I wanted to return if nothing else came back.
We then returned back to Boesche. Before I went in, I went back to see if the pierced tongue girl from Day 2 was still around but she was not. It wasn’t long before I spot “Puki” entertaining some clients. She waves when she sees me and it wasn’t long before she comes over dragging her good friend (she was telling me about from the other day) to sit with me. Then she goes back to her farang. Meanwhile her friend is telling me about how she likes me (I guess Puki must have told her that I was a nice guy) then she starts slagging off Puki about how Puki was not as good as her because she has had a child. At this point she wasn’t scoring any brownie points with me. I tell her I am not bar fining anyone tonight and for her to move on. LSW settles for one girl, I have my eye on a couple of other hotties. I ask one of them about bbbj but was told that “smoke” was not on the cards. At this stage I was about to leave empty handed with LSW and his BF trophy when Puki ditches her farang and comes over. I tell her that she did not have to do that on my account. She insist that she would rather go with me. So I BF her and we all leave. Same deal with Puki on my last night. I figured better stick with the good service than risk another unknown. Only difference is Puki excused herself a little earlier because she was having a headache and not feeling too well, I gave her some codeine paracetemol and sent her on her way. I find some evidence on the toilet later that she did indeed get sick. I will never forget Puki. A real stunner with great service, I’m glad I had her on my last night at Pattaya.
On this trip I asked 6 different ladies about bbbj, 2 said "no", 4 said "ok", so I guees the hit rate was 66%
Looking forward to reading LukeSkyWanker’s reports
I head off to Phuket. You can read my Phuket report on the Phuket forums.
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I was in Patts this past weekend. With these idiotic elections over, the bars can finally operate at full capacity.
Walking Streeta
Heaven Above -- this place has improved. The mamasan must have fired all the skanks or they took the night off. Either way, it's a great improvement. Nearly all the girls are hotties.
Peppermint - Great place. The girls in the back in the cages are now 600 baht barfine just like everyone else -- no discounts! They are completely nude as well. There's this one in the cage that had the most perfect pair of tits I've ever seen on a go go girl, although her attitude indicated that she might be a bitc*.
Soi 6
King Kong -- Sausage fest all around. Took a look inside a few times and the place was filled with fat blokes chowing down on dinner. No thanks.
Ruby - still nice inside with draft beer, although the hot bartender (Juk) seems to have gone missing.
Thumbs Up Bar -- nice girls in here.
Red Point - still the best of the lot. Comfortable couches and lots of girls to choose from.
Welkom Inn -- this place still tops my list. Soi 3. It's an afternoon bar, so if you get there past 6 it will probably be dead. Draft beer is 50 baht. 200 baht barfine and 800 baht for the girl.
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BBBJ and DFK
[QUOTE=Gwailo]Most will DFK, some will bbbj and some won't. You can ask her, some of the top go-go girls might not.
There are plenty of girls to try so I'm sure you'll find a few that you like. Just ask for what you want, they've heard it all before.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I thought I'd send my first post after lurking around for a couple of months.
Back about 4 weeks ago from an 18 day BKK/Pattaya trip. Been doing it at least twice a year for about 10 years now and judging by some of the posts I guess I've been very lucky in the BBBJ dept. Only 2 girls haven't BBBJ'd in all that time and in fact the 2 that didn't wouldn't BJ at all! Yeah surprised the hell out of me too. "Me no like" was the only explanation I got out of them! Didn't bother trying to persuade or beg them for it. I can get that experience back here! The begging and refusal I mean not the BJ
I honestly don't think the issue of BBBJ has come up even once that I can remember and that goes for Soapies, Massage and the gogo girls, though to be honest there are many, many nights that I wake up and genuinely don't remember. This goes for the stunners to the 'wish I hadn't drank so much and picked her up on Suckumvit road at 4am' girls. They just seem to do it. Guess it must be 'cause I'm a "Hansum Man" and they "Like me too much". Must be true cause they told me! Surely they wouldn't just be Pak Wan? The deceitful little Minxes!
DFK on the other hand is a bit different. Think I've found about 75% do and these tend to be from beer bar and gogo. Can't think of a single massage or soapy girl that has DFKed. Personally I can't think of anything more of a turn on than a real GFE so when they do DFK it just adds to the good time. I think it might be about how comfortable you make them feel. Be nice and have a laugh with them and much more likely to get that GFE.
Been a real pleasure reading the forums in the last couple of months and even though I am a long time Monger (though didn't know I was called that) and been many times to Bangkok and Pattaya I still picked up a lot of good advice from all you regulars before my last trip a few weeks ago. Thanks a lot. Hopefully I can start giving some back now. Last trip was just so damn good I couldn't hold out any longer and booked another flight today for 4 weeks time. Yehhaaa!
Cheers,
Johnthescot
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Soi 6
Hi there,
Now that I have come out of the closet so to speak (registered subscription), can I ask for some advice on something that's been bugging me for my last few visits to Pattaya. I tend to be a gogo person and only done the MPs and Soi 6 bars a few times over the years.
So on last couple of trips when I'm in need of a wee bit of afternoon delight I've ocassionally taken a stroll down Soi 6 to see if there are any nice girls. I usually pick a bar based on the quality of the girls outside. When I walk in and sit down it seems to be a totally random quality girl that follows me into the usually almost empty bar and takes my order and sits down beside me. I've been really unlucky the last few times in that it's been a relatively unattractice girl that just didn't take my fancy. Frustrating when there are much better girls sitting outside.
So what do I do? Politely tell them that I'm not really interested but could they introduce me to one of their friends that I like? Try to get one's attention on the way in? I tend to just have a little bit of chat with them, drink my beer and move onto the next bar in the hope that a better one will come over this time. By the time I'm in the 5th bar and a decent one come over, I'm too far gone to be bothered anymore :-)
Just wondered if some of you Senior Mongers could help me out on this issue of etiquettebefore my next trip in 4 weeks time?
Thanks,
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]...So what do I do? [/QUOTE]
The proper procedure is to signal the girl you want to follow you in, or, failing that, to tell the skank who followed you inside to go get her for you. If you are polite and smiling, you will cause no loss of face and always wind up with the one you fancy. Working girls are used to being rejected.
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Soi 6 - In ya face
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Hi there,
Now that I have come out of the closet so to speak (registered subscription), can I ask for some advice on something that's been bugging me for my last few visits to Pattaya. I tend to be a gogo person and only done the MPs and Soi 6 bars a few times over the years.
So on last couple of trips when I'm in need of a wee bit of afternoon delight I've ocassionally taken a stroll down Soi 6 to see if there are any nice girls. I usually pick a bar based on the quality of the girls outside. When I walk in and sit down it seems to be a totally random quality girl that follows me into the usually almost empty bar and takes my order and sits down beside me. I've been really unlucky the last few times in that it's been a relatively unattractice girl that just didn't take my fancy. Frustrating when there are much better girls sitting outside.
So what do I do? Politely tell them that I'm not really interested but could they introduce me to one of their friends that I like? Try to get one's attention on the way in? I tend to just have a little bit of chat with them, drink my beer and move onto the next bar in the hope that a better one will come over this time. By the time I'm in the 5th bar and a decent one come over, I'm too far gone to be bothered anymore :-)
Just wondered if some of you Senior Mongers could help me out on this issue of etiquettebefore my next trip in 4 weeks time?
Thanks,
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Wee Johnnie boy - methinks u have the notion of Soi 6 arse about. Whilst I myself tend to see what passes by (or even sits down for that matter !) in the Go-Go's, Soi 6 is definitly not the same. If u just walk in and take a seat, the tugs will often see this as their possible opportunity to make some cash. MOI for me is to take a walk along one time, spotting a few that take my fancy to add to my mental shortlist, carefully ensuring to make some eye contact and a smile, then taking a walk back the other way to hone in on my #1 choice. They will always remember u on the walk back so its just a matter of looking at her all the time as u approach the bar, then walk in. If she doesnt get the message from that then I just motion towards the door with an "after you, my lovely" type gesture.
Hope this assists........... should avoid some wasted time and beers with the ugly ones anyway :D
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I was wondering what's the position of Pattaya girls towards condom use?
I have been to BKK where safe sex was 100%¨and even some girls wouldn't go BBBJ even for nice tip :) , while in Angeles City it's like 100% BB, BBFS + BBBJ.
Don't flame, people that want go to go BB go BB, people that go cover are safe so shouldn't worry about barebackers, consenting adults can play russian roulette if they want :)
It's just an educational question, when comparing the two "mekka's" of sexual tourism in Asia.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is standard, but most require condoms for intercourse. At least that's been my experience.
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Visa Extension?
I am scheduled to return to the USA on 3 June. My visa expires 22 May. Does anyone know if there is a simple, cost effective way to extend an "on arrival" tourist visa in Pattaya? I would rather extend that take the visa run to Cambodia.
I have RTFF but did not find an answer.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Hi there,
Now that I have come out of the closet so to speak (registered subscription), can I ask for some advice on something that's been bugging me for my last few visits to Pattaya. I tend to be a gogo person and only done the MPs and Soi 6 bars a few times over the years.
So on last couple of trips when I'm in need of a wee bit of afternoon delight I've ocassionally taken a stroll down Soi 6 to see if there are any nice girls. I usually pick a bar based on the quality of the girls outside. When I walk in and sit down it seems to be a totally random quality girl that follows me into the usually almost empty bar and takes my order and sits down beside me. I've been really unlucky the last few times in that it's been a relatively unattractice girl that just didn't take my fancy. Frustrating when there are much better girls sitting outside.
So what do I do? Politely tell them that I'm not really interested but could they introduce me to one of their friends that I like? Try to get one's attention on the way in? I tend to just have a little bit of chat with them, drink my beer and move onto the next bar in the hope that a better one will come over this time. By the time I'm in the 5th bar and a decent one come over, I'm too far gone to be bothered anymore :-)
Just wondered if some of you Senior Mongers could help me out on this issue of etiquettebefore my next trip in 4 weeks time?
Thanks,
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
I just tend to have a laugh with them buy them a drink have some fun and then may be move on. I have had ones that are stunning but boring and star fish and ones that are not lookers lots of fun and a great fuck.
So I tend to see what happens first. Then I decide.
Ps
Also you should check out the Hell club on LK Metro
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Soi 6 again (Day 3 in Pattaya)
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]I just tend to have a laugh with them buy them a drink have some fun and then may be move on. I have had ones that are stunning but boring and star fish and ones that are not lookers lots of fun and a great fuck.
So I tend to see what happens first. Then I decide.
Ps
Also you should check out the Hell club on LK Metro[/QUOTE]Thanks ThaiLearner and Maaars
I'll try your advice next time.
Actually last trip a few weeks ago I ended up in Soi 6 one afternoon (yeah like I didn't make a beeline straight for the place as soon as I got out of bed in the afternoon? ). Was in one about half way down on right hand side as you face the beach, no idea of name. As I mentioned in earlier post I had the usual misfortune of being followed inside by some decidedly below average petite girl. Not my type at all. She had a less than average face, virtually no tits and was way too small for my liking. I was really thinking of just leaving the beer and going. But then being a Scot, leaving a beer would be a criminal offence so had to stay til that was at least finished. We chatted for a bit and she trurned out to be quite good fun. Bought her a drink within a few minutes her hand was on my crotch and the question "you wan fcuk me? I do anythin you wan! " Til that point I would say I was a 100% no. The directness of her surprised me and almost made me spit my beer all over her! Well, it was just too hot to go looking and I just needed to 'get it over with'. I do have needs after all. I already had made plans to meet a real hottie later that night for some LT action (and my best GFE ever in Thailand but more of that in a later report) but just needed to 'clean the pipes' first.
I think she said B1000 all inclusive for her and the room. Seemed reasonable value for money as far as I was concerned so up we go to the rooms. I think there were 2 floors of rooms. The one we went into was a decent large room with good aircon and reasonable ensuite shower room (for a ST room anyway). I've been there before last year and if I remember correctly some rooms don't have a showeroom and you have to do an embarrasing walk with a towel wrapped round you past the maids and various random people walking the corridors. Also bizarrely one of the walls didn't go all the way to the ceiling so I was very concscious of all the other punters hearing the all the cries of pleasure, mine not hers
Anyway in this room we got undressed and as it turned out she was n't that great naked. Very petite and bit too skinny with tiny tits which is in itself usually a disappointment for me. I know it's what a lot of guys like over there but I prefer a woman to look like a woman and not a child. Anyway since she was naked my reluctance was lessening a bit and another part other than my brain was taking over. It's amazing how that can happen! We showered together and she take great care in washing my 'bits' and gave me a bit of a shock by meticulously cleaning my ass. Hey it was clean already, I'm house trained. "In case you wan me lick your ass! " was the explanation. What can I say, this girl is a professional and thinks ahead!
On the bed she gives me a very nice, energetic BBBJ without my asking (see previous post). After a bit of this she stops and say's "You finish, you tell me first? OK? ". So much for CIM. I really can't be bothered with negotiating during the actas it's a huge turn off. BJ was good but still wasn't really into her so wasn't looking forward to the FS. Why do I get myself into these situations? Too bloody polite thats my problem!
Anyway she gets on top, jumps around for 10 minutes and I'm really not into this now. I can just feel 'the power' draining away. OK doggie style should sort things, least I won't see her face and can fantasise about the girl from last night! Shit just like being at home. Shagging the GF and thinking about the girl from work Could have saved a fortune and just stayed in the UK!
Anyway a few minutes of doggie style and I had totally lost interest. So had another part of me. I think she senses things aren't going well back here so in an attempt to help things along she turns her gead around and says in a helpful manner "You no finish? Why? You wan stick it in my ass? " Not really a question I get asked often back home funnily enough! I politely declined (sorry guys, aint my thing) and she seemed genuinely surprised. Too many of my fellow mongers over here corrupting this poor innocent girl with your deviant ways!
Anyway I was ready to throw the towel in at this point and put it down to a bad experience but she was having none of it. "I finish you ok? No problem". What a wee superstar. Professional pride appears in the most unlikely places. She then proceeded to sit on me reverse cowgirl style and give me the most vigorous, energetic and satisfying HJ I have ever had without it being pulled off.
So an unusual, and for me, totally surprising experience. Not quite what I was after but not the total disaster it could have been. I have honestly never been with a girl in all my mongering years that has spoken to me in such a matter of fact way about the things she did. I did have a few giggles about it later in the bar.
Anyway just a relevant story that came to my mind as I was talking about Soi 6. More to follow.
3 Weeks and 4 days to go.
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
When I walk in and sit down it seems to be a totally random quality girl that follows me into the usually almost empty bar and takes my order and sits down beside me. I've been really unlucky the last few times in that it's been a relatively unattractice girl that just didn't take my fancy. Frustrating when there are much better girls sitting outside.
So what do I do? [/QUOTE]
What works for me is to ask the one sitting outside that I find most attractive
is if she would join me for a drink. Probably 99% of the time she'll say yes. Should she say no, it's just to ask the second-most attractive or move on to another bar.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]I am scheduled to return to the USA on 3 June. My visa expires 22 May. Does anyone know if there is a simple, cost effective way to extend an "on arrival" tourist visa in Pattaya? I would rather extend that take the visa run to Cambodia.
I have RTFF but did not find an answer.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I believe you can extend an "on arrival" tourist stamp for a once only maximum of 7 days. That will still leave you 5 days short. Suggest you go this week to immigration in Jomtien, and see what if anything they can suggest. Overstay penalties are not that high, but if for any reason you should be caught by the police without a valid visa, penalties are severe and usually include deportation.
If you can't get more than 7 days extension, then for safety you must make a visa run to Aranyapathet
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]I am scheduled to return to the USA on 3 June. My visa expires 22 May. Does anyone know if there is a simple, cost effective way to extend an "on arrival" tourist visa in Pattaya? I would rather extend that take the visa run to Cambodia.
I have RTFF but did not find an answer.
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]Very simple:
1) Scan a passport-photo or make a digital portrait.
2) Google Cambodian evisa
3) Fill out the form and upload the pic
4) Pay by paypal 26 US (that's much cheaper than anything you pay at the border)
5) Wait about 24 hrs for approval
6) Go to Aranyaprathet/Poi Pet or Hat lek/Koh Kong borders
I suggest Aran. Take the 8 AM direct VIP bus from Pattaya to Aran (appr. 220 baht). At the bus station take a motorbike (50 baht) to the border. Ignore all all touts. They might charge you a fee for not staying the night there on Cambodian soil. For suggestions check the Cambodia section.
Back from Aran. Motorbike to the station. Last bus leaves around 6 PM. Take a bus to Kabinburi and switch to the Chonburi buses, Chaosengsao is also ok as it is the same route. In Chonburi plenty of connections to Pattaya. The direct Pattaya buses come through Aran well after midnite.
If you are back from the border by 1. 55 pm at the train station you could catch the train to BKK and get off at chaosengsao (around 40 Baht). Relaxing trip, bring food and drink and enjoy the countryside as the train runs through the fields.
Koh Kong: take the Bus to Trat anytime before noon if you want to get back same day. The buses leave on Sukumvit near Pattaya Klang (Central Rd.). Near a small wooden Restaurant shag. First Bus is around 6 AM. Take the direct buses to Trat. At Trat bus station 110 baht direct minibus to the border. Return the same thing. Last direct bus back is 3. 30 PM (2nd class aircon).
You can take a motorbike for about 50 baht into Kohkong (details on the sites in Koh Kong in the Cambodia section)
The evisa also saves you a full passport page. No evisa allowed at other overland border crossings.
The total cost should be around 1400 baht (incl. Visa) as opposed 1900 for the 7 day extension. The prices of the border run services vary. They usually suck.
Try to avoid weekend (incl Friday) trips. Much less traffic at the border. Aran has more people running around but less trouble with Cambodian touts. Koh Kong is a true shit hole that makes the Aran mafia look like catholic sisters.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]What works for me is to ask the one sitting outside that I find most attractive
is if she would join me for a drink. Probably 99% of the time she'll say yes. Should she say no, it's just to ask the second-most attractive or move on to another bar.
Evil[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I do. Also, if an ugly one follows you in, don't be afraid to kick her out and go out and choose another one. Sometimes the girl I'm with will suggest prettier girls to replace her, or if a hottie suddenly comes back from lunch or whatever, I'll tell the one I'm with to go get her. Butterfly moves, but I don't care!
One thing that you need to do is when you enter the bar, make sure the girl is going to sit down with you before you order your drink. I've had a few [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off before I even sit down. I usually tell the mamasan and then leave.
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Cambodian E-Visa
"No other overland border crossing accepts E-Visas"
It wasn't clear to me from your post if both Aranya Phrataet and Koh Kong accept E-Visas or only Aranya Phratet; could you clarify?
Thanks
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Three Nights
I am not a regular reporter due to where I work. Dodgy.
However, had the company of a freelancer in Patayaa who said I was free to give number/email out if it was European / American guy with picture. She does maybe 4 to 5 customer per month. And is booked ahead. I just thought I would add.
Regards
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Pattaya
Yes I learned in Patteyaaaa.
Went with one girl, a freelancer of sorts, for three days. Took me around BKK and showed me some sights, good enough english, and street smarts for getting the deal before buying things for me (business) and shipping them. All sorted within hours.
Happy to recommend as a good girl, sweet, especially fun and funny, with a western style sense of humour and western style sense of directness. She will tell it like it is. I don't want to say what she will and won't do, she made it clear it is up to her.
But anyway this girl goes only LT for european stock. Looking for days or weeks, pic first. I think she will go for 3k / day if she likes you, up to 5k if she doesn't. I may be wrong and that may not be how it works. I got lucky with my slot, she normally sees 2.3 per month and that is it.
She only said ok to mention her name to people with picture and she would take from there. PM me for details. Pic is going to be important to her, and I think June is booked. I could be wrong in all of this, did not write it down, and fragile memory when hard on.
Regards
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]That's exactly what I do. Also, if an ugly one follows you in, don't be afraid to kick her out and go out and choose another one. Sometimes the girl I'm with will suggest prettier girls to replace her, or if a hottie suddenly comes back from lunch or whatever, I'll tell the one I'm with to go get her. Butterfly moves, but I don't care!
One thing that you need to do is when you enter the bar, make sure the girl is going to sit down with you before you order your drink. I've had a few [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off before I even sit down. I usually tell the mamasan and then leave.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
You and Mr Penevil make total sense. I'm not a newbie but I think I act like one in soi 6. I think I might be the same in MP in general. Not the same in gogo bar. Must be shy in those places when girls are forward like that. Makes sense, sort of. I'll be reporting with my on the spot mong cam in 3 weeks!
Johnthescot
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3k/day
Neufie,
I hope you don't get many PMs for details, 3K/day or 5K/day if she doesn't like you? you can find many girls willing to spend all day with you for a thousand or less, June is low season so business is slow also we should be the ones setting the price not a thai hooker who thinks she is a little smarter.
Booked June what the fuck?
Only European what the fuck?
Up to her what the fuck?
Give us a break!
Do everybody a favour and email her or call her saying nobody is interested as her prices are too high, after ditch the contact details just in case some poor guy is trying to get rid of his lottery money and asks you for a phone number.
Sorry to to be hard on you but this forum is for helping fellow mongers find a good deal not ambitious hookers, lets do our bit to stop the prices creeping up in LOS.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]
Do everybody a favour and email her or call her saying nobody is interested as her prices are too high,
[/QUOTE]
It’s not just the price; it’s the restrictive and rigid rules she has. This kind of dictating approach may work in places where the numbers of (working) women are low in relation to their clients. However, in Pattaya where the supply of women is so high these types of women should be rejected emphatically. It’s sad that Nuefie felt he “got lucky with his slot.” If a woman starts off being this rigid when selling her services, like making it clear that it’s up to her what she will do” and raising her price if she doesn’t like you there’s a high probability she will be as restrictive in bed and the session will suck, but not in the way you want.
She has every right to have her standards but there’s no need for anyone to meet them when we are in a buyer’s market.
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Couldn't agree with you more, Mr. LSW!
[quote]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
Neufie,
I hope you don't get many PMs for details, 3K/day or 5K/day if she doesn't like you? You can find many girls willing to spend all day with you for a thousand or less, June is low season so business is slow also we should be the ones setting the price not a thai hooker who thinks she is a little smarter.
Booked June what the fuck?
Only European what the fuck?
Up to her what the fuck?
Give us a break!
Do everybody a favour and email her or call her saying nobody is interested as her prices are too high, after ditch the contact details just in case some poor guy is trying to get rid of his lottery money and asks you for a phone number.
Sorry to to be hard on you but this forum is for helping fellow mongers find a good deal not ambitious hookers, lets do our bit to stop the Just prices creeping up in LOS. [/quote]A classic "the tail wags the dog" scenario injected with common sense, logic and reason by LukeSkyWanker!
This is directed to all the mongers who have so unkindly and unfairly vilified me in my past posts about the same topic, "Atrocious p4p prices in Thailand (especially in Bangkok) and what we CAN do about them", your welcome to have a go at me again but please, I BEG YOU:
- Be sure to ignore the fact that the vast majority of p4p, when they were charging xxxx baht for ST/LT and they "hooked up" with "Daddy Warbucks"(generous millionare in Little Orphan Annie) farang who paid them 1000 baht more and that is what they are now worth as someone paid them that sum, ONCE(at least, until a higher price is offered and then that is what they are worth and so on, and so on, ad infinitum! ).
It is similiar to walking up but NEVER walking down stairs and, to go lower in price from that point onwards, is to commit the ultimate Thai cultural sin and lose "face" and put them in disfavor with Buddha! (a little creative license sarcasm, here! )
- And please do not be satisfied until p4p is as expensive in Thailand as it is in South Korea (which is getting dangerioulsly close, if not already there, to p4p prices in Western countries). Remember, it doesn't matter if Thailand is cost-prohibitive to all but the wealthiest of mongers as there are MANY Asian countries that have infrastructures, cultures and a cost of living that are REALLY "poorer Western foreigner friendly", correct?
Let the poorer mongers go there, instead, if they want to monger that badly as I have the money to pay Thailand prices so why should I care about them!
- Lastly, please be sure to use (ad nauseum) the same old, over-used and worn-out justifications to over-pay in Thailand:
"It's so much cheaper than in my home country, it's a bargain"
"I can't be bothered to bargain, it's not worth the effort".
"If you find something you really like, why quibble on paying an extra 1000. 3000 baht for the quality"
"If you bargain them down they will act like statues in the room but pay them what they ask for and "the sky is the limit".
This is highly speculative and too YMMVish!
"It's a waist to bargain as Asians from other countries have "money to burn" and spend it like "there is no tomorrow" and always get all the better women, so you have to "match" or "outspend" them".
I challenge this last excuse to over-pay by stating that the richer Asian mongering groups can not be everywhere, all the time, soliciting p4p, and it is very doable to create a two-tiered level of cost expectation on the part of p4p women (as they do in some of the "oilies"/"soapies" pricing, ONLY IN REVERSE where foreign Asians are expected to pay more than farangs because they WILL pay more and farangs will REFUSE to pay more).
This CAN ONLY HAPPEN if farangs "hold the line" on being "big spenders" and "just say no" to over-paying!
Give it a go as you would be surprised how far a "NO" and the obvious movement towards another p4p women (or movement towards the door/walk away on the street) can have a p4p having "second thoughts" about the farang's (who she, in all probablity, will never see again) offer she just flat said no to (especially during the "slow" season)!
This is a true "win/win" situation as all farang will save money and it will not cause p4p women to lose "face".
In conclusion, my over-paying mongers, is there a shortage of p4p women in Thailand that are sexually desirable? Then why the fuck turn a "buyers' market" into a "sellers' market" by sheer selfishness and shortsightedness.
Cheers!
P.S. However, to prove I am not a totally obstinate bloke, I can accept "I'm on a tight schedule" or "I only have a few days to monger" as excuses IF they are REALLY telling the truth!
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You sure you're not NEWFIE the CANUCK? Walking down beach about noon - several "hello" plus a couple of other announcements from pooying. For 3k/day I could have most of them in triples (3 at once) for $100/day I could get a WIFE
hallooo! plus a few sweet young things sitting on benches all over the place. Too tired though to have interest since just got in after 16.5 hour N-S flight.
first airport bus to patt still goes at 640 am - can get ticket on ground level 1 near the food court 106 B - 2 hours - also ends at soi chatapruk right at Jomtien beach road in Jomtien makes stops along Suk north central south but need to cross hiway to get bhat bus into town
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Sorry lads
I work in a fucked up country, and when I get out to bangers or anywhere else, I go for an experience. This may not suit you, you may not like or agree with the goings on. And on price, yes I have friends in BKK and know the rates. But up to me.
Good luck!
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Simple
[QUOTE=Run Mann]She has every right to have her standards but there’s no need for anyone to meet them when we are in a buyer’s market.[/QUOTE]Then Don't - It Is Simple - Yes?
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[QUOTE=Neufie]Then Don't - It Is Simple - Yes?[/QUOTE]
You are right but wrong for trying to promote her here.
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Run,
We are all (I hope) trying to provide specific info on ISG on how to get laid. Suggesting that someone is 'promoting' because they have provided/offered to provide info is tantamount to accusing that someone of being a pimp. While I would never be interested in the type of girl that Neufie has recommended in this thread, I see nothing in his posts that indicates a vested interest. Each to their own: Seems to me that Neufie has his own take on having a good time in LOS, and is reporting it here, which is great.
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Terry,
You are narrowing and changing the definition of promotion. Promotion does not make him a pimp and I did not accuse him of being one. Customers can promote goods/services without receiving rewards; it happens here all the time and some portions of his post reads like a classified ad. I suspect he promoted her because he felt like her service was good. I actually felt for him because he appears to be very green. My point is that in Pattaya there no need to patronize girls like the one he had using those prices and structure of her services because of the vast availability of girls who offer better. Yes we are all sharing info and novices coming here need to know that Neufie’s girl is the exception and not the norm in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Terry,
You are narrowing and changing the definition of promotion.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Promotion does not make him a pimp and I did not accuse him of being one. [I]Customers can promote goods/services without receiving rewards; it happens here all the time.[/I][/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the core purpose of ISG.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]I suspect he promoted her because he felt like her service was good.[/QUOTE]
Funnily enough, so do I. And that's the core purpose of ISG.[QUOTE=Run Mann]I actually felt for him because he appears to be very green.[/QUOTE]
Having read his posting history, I disagree.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]My point is that in Pattaya there no need to patronize girls like the one he had using those prices and structure of her services because of the vast availability of girls who offer better.[/QUOTE]
Up to you, up to him. He appears to have had a great time.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Yes we are all sharing info and novices coming here need to know that Neufie’s girl is the exception and not the norm in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
To paraphrase John Cleese and Monty Python, it's statin' the bleedin' obvious that using an escort-type service in Patts is the exception rather than the rule. Bet you a thousand baht that Neufie's recommend doesn't stop a single newbie from having it large in downtown Patts and paying something like the going rate in the morning.
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TT,
Read again, now you are contradicting yourself but we agree to disagree on this issue. I stand by what I wrote and am looking forward to my 1000B.
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Run,
Neufie has brought another option for shagging to the table. Luke has already highlighted the fact that it's quite an expensive option for this locality. Let's not slaughter the bloke over his obviously genuine input.
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I agree with you Terry and if you read my original report on this issue, I addressed her rigidity not so much the price which is a subject I tend to stay away from. Look I believe he is sincere, but again he is green. The best part about this dialogue is that his post is here along with yours and mine (as well as others). We are all grown men here who are free to decide for ourselves.
Peace!
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Applauding Cheap Charlie
Gotta applaud Cheap Charlie. I mean, c'mon. Most of us wouldn't have thought to avoid a $30 bill by running and hiding, and then spending the rest of a trip to paradise worrying and looking over your shoulder, having to move from one location to the next like a fugutive! That takes some real fortitude to be able to spend ones vacation "avoiding" instead of "embracing". Seems a little silly now that in the past I've actually paid the girls and then basked in their (admittedly purchased) affections. Instead of spending $30 or $45 (after having spent $1000 to get there and home) or even the princely sum of $60 for great sex and relaxation, I'm gonna start to pump up the excitement by finding ways to avoid payment. It's fun to live on the edge, always apprehensive, always having to remain on guard. And afterall, I need that $60 far more than these girls for whom $60 is more than 2 weeks salary in a normal Thai job!
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"like him too much" but not his mouth
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
DFK on the other hand is a bit different. Think I've found about 75% do and these tend to be from beer bar and gogo. Can't think of a single massage or soapy girl that has DFKed. Personally I can't think of anything more of a turn on than a real GFE so when they do DFK it just adds to the good time. I think it might be about how comfortable you make them feel. Be nice and have a laugh with them and much more likely to get that GFE.
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Is there something wrong with you? Smoker?
A good percentage of Soapy and Massage shop girls, do DFK, but certainly not all. Maybe 60-70%.
Some start off with no DFK but later loose control.
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Hell Club Pattaya
i visited the hell club yesterday and the only thing harder than my appendage was finding the place. but if you head up soi diana from second road and turn left passing lollitas, it is just round the corner on the left.
about 15 ladies and had a great time. note that the "3 way" girls are on the right here so don't get confused. its pretty obvious really considering the right side is the smaller side.
marc was a star, clearly telling you the deal and anything you need to know. his absolutley gorgeous wife speaks great english too. everything else is as has been well explained. note that 70% of their business is repeat so that must tell you something. the other thing is you are free to pick both ladies. the first girl picking the second is a hangover from the eden club where the lunchtime corporates are in a hurry to get back to their beloveds so need the high speed treatment!
try it once and if you like it, go back.
c1
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Peppermint - Pattaya
Dropped by Peppermint on Walking Street around 10.30pm on Sat night.
Picked out a cute dancer named "Nong" and bought her a drink, then barfined her as my evening "insurance" policy (600 Bht).
Went with Nong and a friend to Happy Go-Go where she helped my friend pick out May, a young stunner dancer. Friend barfined May and we all headed out to his hotel for some drinks by the pool and a look at his room.
Lots of kino between me and Nong the whole time, but no real kissing.
Around 1am headed back to my hotel (LK Renaissance) with Nong. Showered up but I protested I was tired and we basically went to sleep after some unit-rubbing by her (not to completion). Partially held back by her breath which was surprisingly stanky after all the time she had in the shower, and the blatant Listerine I keep by the bathroom sink (and liberally swig from myself).
Upon waking she showered again and we got down to some moderate business, her on top and then BBBJ and HJ to completion.
I left her 2000 Baht on her purse and she picked it up, counted it, and asked for (demanded?) 3000. Felt a little taken aback. Is that normal pricing for an all-night with 1 completion? Didn't think arguing was the best policy so payed and chalked it up to experience.
My friend said he negotiated with May down to 2500 from her request of 3000. Perhaps I should have negotiated up front.
I was surprised as in BKK the Nana Plaza go-go girls are doing 2K longtimes.
EDIT: Went back to Peppermint tonight after learning Monday (tomorrow) is a Buddha holiday and all bars are closed. Wanted to take a girl for a very short time tonight and set her up for Monday. Peppermint still has a selection of hot girls, though few speak more than basic words of English. I was told by one girl that the bar's minimums are 2K short-time and 3K longtime. She wouldn't budge. I said I only wanted very short time, like 15 mins, and still they wanted 2K plus Barfine (e.g., $75 USD total). I moved on -- cheaper to jack off :)
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Is there something wrong with you? Smoker?
A good percentage of Soapy and Massage shop girls, do DFK, but certainly not all. Maybe 60-70%.
Some start off with no DFK but later loose control.[/QUOTE]Nope, not a smoker and I'm a "Hansum Man", they've told me!
Johnthescot
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Headed to Patts on June 6
I am working in Hong Kong and must jump over to Patts because I fell in love last month with a gal working on Soi 8! :-)
If anybody else is solo and want to hang out, hit me back. I will only be there 2 nts so I am really gonna let it all hang out. I will be at Sunshine on Soi 8 so I won't have to wander far from the fun.
dumbass
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Peppermint
Eric,
Peppermint go go girls asked me 3000 thb LT as happened to you. I think that it's betwen the most expensive go go in Pattaya because those in soi diamond like the sea or paris asked 2000 LT.
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Dropped by Peppermint on Walking Street around 10.30pm on Sat night.
Picked out a cute dancer named "Nong" and bought her a drink, then barfined her as my evening "insurance" policy (600 Bht).
Went with Nong and a friend to Happy Go-Go where she helped my friend pick out May, a young stunner dancer. Friend barfined May and we all headed out to his hotel for some drinks by the pool and a look at his room.
Lots of kino between me and Nong the whole time, but no real kissing.
Around 1am headed back to my hotel (LK Renaissance) with Nong. Showered up but I protested I was tired and we basically went to sleep after some unit-rubbing by her (not to completion). Partially held back by her breath which was surprisingly stanky after all the time she had in the shower, and the blatant Listerine I keep by the bathroom sink (and liberally swig from myself).
Upon waking she showered again and we got down to some moderate business, her on top and then BBBJ and HJ to completion.
I left her 2000 Baht on her purse and she picked it up, counted it, and asked for (demanded?) 3000. Felt a little taken aback. Is that normal pricing for an all-night with 1 completion? Didn't think arguing was the best policy so payed and chalked it up to experience.
My friend said he negotiated with May down to 2500 from her request of 3000. Perhaps I should have negotiated up front.
I was surprised as in BKK the Nana Plaza go-go girls are doing 2K longtimes.
EDIT: Went back to Peppermint tonight after learning Monday (tomorrow) is a Buddha holiday and all bars are closed. Wanted to take a girl for a very short time tonight and set her up for Monday. Peppermint still has a selection of hot girls, though few speak more than basic words of English. I was told by one girl that the bar's minimums are 2K short-time and 3K longtime. She wouldn't budge. I said I only wanted very short time, like 15 mins, and still they wanted 2K plus Barfine (e.g., $75 USD total). I moved on -- cheaper to jack off :)[/QUOTE]
Those prices are fucking RIDICULOUS. I was going to go back to Peppermint in a few weeks but now I won't bother. These girls obviously think that their pussies are made of gold. Even Bangkok is cheaper than that. Hell, fucking JAPAN is cheaper than that. And this is low season!!!
Wank and save....
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hey eric - the absolute WORST she could have done was to get a bit upset and then badmouth you to the others in the bar. IF she wants to make a scene, she can TRY but there is always the tourist police. 1000B isn't wprth having someone visit you fuck her and her horse too - 2000 is going rate and if she doesn't like it - tough. next time set a price up front
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nothing to do with women - so pass on if you aren't interested
Ran into a timeshare presentation yesterday - with a "twist". The guy comes along with a couple of scratch off cards supposedly for a tourist promotion. scrtach the first one and it says t-shirt or something like that. The second card had 2 stars - so you supposedly win a prize - supposedly big prize. Anyway - by Big-C so didn't matter - out on the street. The barker told me to tell them not over 59, and room cost had to be over 800B plus if married, wife had to be along or girlfriend I guess. have Major credit card - just tell them in room - don't travel out with the card (thats true)
Anyway - go to Jomtien - handy since I was going there anyway. To "win" you need to sit thru a 90 minute presentation. HERE'S THE HOOK - IF you don't DO 90 minutes and they kick you out like they did to me (not rich enough to buy their timeshare (HA! If they only knew...) but a bunch of brits were running the show)
Anyway - the guy wants people who stay at Marriot or similar and then sell them some timeshare I guess - they didn't get down to the hard sell with me (not that I would have bought it anyway - so didn't actually get the real price or any price at all).
What someone needs to do is to fit the profile (or SAY they fit the profile anyway) and talk a good line and stay for maybe 2 hours so it's pretty impossible to get 86'd after 1 hour and then collect whatever they are passing out - they wouldn't even give me the t-shirt (course, with the name being bogus - they didn't know - and the rest of the info being frm where I used to live, I didn't much care anyway.) just that another t-shirt would be something else to wear
If anyone scams the scammers, let me know. (I consider all timeshares scams - YMMV)
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Ran into a timeshare presentation yesterday - with a "twist". The guy comes along with a couple of scratch off cards supposedly for a tourist promotion. scrtach the first one and it says t-shirt or something like that. The second card had 2 stars - so you supposedly win a prize - supposedly big prize. Anyway - by Big-C so didn't matter - out on the street. The barker told me to tell them not over 59, and room cost had to be over 800B plus if married, wife had to be along or girlfriend I guess. have Major credit card - just tell them in room - don't travel out with the card (thats true)
Anyway - go to Jomtien - handy since I was going there anyway. To "win" you need to sit thru a 90 minute presentation. HERE'S THE HOOK - IF you don't DO 90 minutes and they kick you out like they did to me (not rich enough to buy their timeshare (HA! If they only knew...) but a bunch of brits were running the show)
Anyway - the guy wants people who stay at Marriot or similar and then sell them some timeshare I guess - they didn't get down to the hard sell with me (not that I would have bought it anyway - so didn't actually get the real price or any price at all).
What someone needs to do is to fit the profile (or SAY they fit the profile anyway) and talk a good line and stay for maybe 2 hours so it's pretty impossible to get 86'd after 1 hour and then collect whatever they are passing out - they wouldn't even give me the t-shirt (course, with the name being bogus - they didn't know - and the rest of the info being frm where I used to live, I didn't much care anyway.) just that another t-shirt would be something else to wear
If anyone scams the scammers, let me know. (I consider all timeshares scams - YMMV)[/QUOTE]I've run into this many times in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket. They often work in pairs (guy and gal) with a golf shirt showing some company name. The first time I didn't know what was going on, but he girl was very cute and figured I'd play along. Later I found out she would get 500 baht if I stayed 45 minutes. Unfortunately for her I had left after 30 (with a T-shirt). We went to dinner the next night and my next trip I took her to Angor Wat and later Chaing Mai but she wanted a committment so I said goodbye.
Now I tell them upfront what I know and find out if they get anything (usually 20 or 50 baht but sometimes nothing) if they get a valid name and room number that can be called. If they get something I give them the 2 mintues and fill out the inital survey.
Once in Phuket 2 girls stopped me and I told them I just didn't have the time to go listen for 45 minutes. They then told me they got 2000 baht. I gave in and verified I had to stay 45 mintues. Happened to have my laptop with me for the 1 on 1 conversation and took notes. At 53 minutes I insisted on the price or I would walk. They woudln't give so I walked again with my T-shirt. The girls waited outside and bought me a local food dinner and had some nice conversation but one was married and the other I wasn't interested.
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Update on the Hell Club (with photos)
Just a brief update to an old report I did on [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=554950&postcount=1213] Inside the Hell Club[/url]. The Hell Club's opening hours are now between 1 pm and midnight and about 25 ladies work there. The ladies line up in relation to the striped line (yellow-black) in the opposite order to Bangkok's Eden Club: the ones who do anal stand to the right of the line (as you face them). Prices are still the same (3600B for the inhouse, 90-minute two-lady session, 3000B per lady for overnight takeaway). For more info, check out the [url=www.thehellclub.com]Hell Club Website[/url].
I'm attaching some photos of the Hell ladies that are reproduced with the permission of the Hell Club's owner, Cerberus. The photos were taken in mid-April.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Ran into a timeshare presentation yesterday - with a "twist". The guy comes along with a couple of scratch off cards supposedly for a tourist promotion. scrtach the first one and it says t-shirt or something like that. The second card had 2 stars - so you supposedly win a prize - supposedly big prize. Anyway - by Big-C so didn't matter - out on the street. The barker told me to tell them not over 59, and room cost had to be over 800B plus if married, wife had to be along or girlfriend I guess. have Major credit card - just tell them in room - don't travel out with the card (thats true)
Anyway - go to Jomtien - handy since I was going there anyway. To "win" you need to sit thru a 90 minute presentation. HERE'S THE HOOK - IF you don't DO 90 minutes and they kick you out like they did to me (not rich enough to buy their timeshare (HA! If they only knew...) but a bunch of brits were running the show)
Anyway - the guy wants people who stay at Marriot or similar and then sell them some timeshare I guess - they didn't get down to the hard sell with me (not that I would have bought it anyway - so didn't actually get the real price or any price at all).
What someone needs to do is to fit the profile (or SAY they fit the profile anyway) and talk a good line and stay for maybe 2 hours so it's pretty impossible to get 86'd after 1 hour and then collect whatever they are passing out - they wouldn't even give me the t-shirt (course, with the name being bogus - they didn't know - and the rest of the info being frm where I used to live, I didn't much care anyway.) just that another t-shirt would be something else to wear
If anyone scams the scammers, let me know. (I consider all timeshares scams - YMMV)[/QUOTE]
Had a German come up to me on a motorbike a few months ago and did the same scam on me -- scratched off the card and said I won some big prize. He was probably in his early fifties or late forties, grayish hair and about 5'10. He was alone. He wanted me to come with him to Jomtien. I smelled a scam so I said no thanks. He was a bit pissed off but fuck him - I've been here long enough to know a scam when I see one (at least most of the time).
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Just a brief update to an old report I did on [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=554950&postcount=1213] Inside the Hell Club[/url]. The Hell Club's opening hours are now between 1 pm and midnight and about 25 ladies work there. The ladies line up in relation to the striped line (yellow-black) in the opposite order to Bangkok's Eden Club: the ones who do anal stand to the right of the line (as you face them). Prices are still the same (3600B for the inhouse, 90-minute two-lady session, 3000B per lady for overnight takeaway). For more info, check out the [url=www.thehellclub.com]Hell Club Website[/url].
I'm attaching some photos of the Hell ladies that are reproduced with the permission of the Hell Club's owner, Cerberus. The photos were taken in mid-April.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Evil, thanks as ever for the info, and the pics of the girls. From what people had said, I was expecting older, past it witches. Those girls are on par to the best I've seen, and if they are skilled in the art of fucking and sucking, all the better. I arrive at my 'place' on Soi LK Metro at about 1000 on Sat 21 June, 3 hours later, I know where I'll be, 200 m up the road in hell!
Cheers
Pete
Addition. Looking at the photos again, there's at least 4 of those girls I would spend my bhat on. Does anyone know, is it possible to have fun with 4 girls in 90 minutes, or is 2 a max and do it twice?
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Ran into a timeshare presentation yesterday - with a "twist". The guy comes along with a couple of scratch off cards supposedly for a tourist promotion. scrtach the first one and it says t-shirt or something like that. The second card had 2 stars - so you supposedly win a prize - supposedly big prize. Anyway - by Big-C so didn't matter - out on the street. The barker told me to tell them not over 59, and room cost had to be over 800B plus if married, wife had to be along or girlfriend I guess. have Major credit card - just tell them in room - don't travel out with the card (thats true)
Anyway - go to Jomtien - handy since I was going there anyway. To "win" you need to sit thru a 90 minute presentation. HERE'S THE HOOK - IF you don't DO 90 minutes and they kick you out like they did to me (not rich enough to buy their timeshare (HA! If they only knew...) but a bunch of brits were running the show)
Anyway - the guy wants people who stay at Marriot or similar and then sell them some timeshare I guess - they didn't get down to the hard sell with me (not that I would have bought it anyway - so didn't actually get the real price or any price at all).
What someone needs to do is to fit the profile (or SAY they fit the profile anyway) and talk a good line and stay for maybe 2 hours so it's pretty impossible to get 86'd after 1 hour and then collect whatever they are passing out - they wouldn't even give me the t-shirt (course, with the name being bogus - they didn't know - and the rest of the info being frm where I used to live, I didn't much care anyway.) just that another t-shirt would be something else to wear
If anyone scams the scammers, let me know. (I consider all timeshares scams - YMMV)[/QUOTE]
You are not going to loose your 90 min but your money too if you ever buy a timesharing program from them.
They did the same scam in my country. It was on TV a couple of years ago where I live. Lots of victims.
Stay away.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Ran into a timeshare presentation yesterday - with a "twist". The guy comes along with a couple of scratch off cards supposedly for a tourist promotion. scrtach the first one and it says t-shirt or something like that. The second card had 2 stars - so you supposedly win a prize - supposedly big prize. Anyway - by Big-C so didn't matter - out on the street. The barker told me to tell them not over 59, and room cost had to be over 800B plus if married, wife had to be along or girlfriend I guess. have Major credit card - just tell them in room - don't travel out with the card (thats true)
Anyway - go to Jomtien - handy since I was going there anyway. To "win" you need to sit thru a 90 minute presentation. HERE'S THE HOOK - IF you don't DO 90 minutes and they kick you out like they did to me (not rich enough to buy their timeshare (HA! If they only knew...) but a bunch of brits were running the show)
Anyway - the guy wants people who stay at Marriot or similar and then sell them some timeshare I guess - they didn't get down to the hard sell with me (not that I would have bought it anyway - so didn't actually get the real price or any price at all).
What someone needs to do is to fit the profile (or SAY they fit the profile anyway) and talk a good line and stay for maybe 2 hours so it's pretty impossible to get 86'd after 1 hour and then collect whatever they are passing out - they wouldn't even give me the t-shirt (course, with the name being bogus - they didn't know - and the rest of the info being frm where I used to live, I didn't much care anyway.) just that another t-shirt would be something else to wear
If anyone scams the scammers, let me know. (I consider all timeshares scams - YMMV)[/QUOTE]Ran into these guys in Pattaya a few weeks ago too (though there are probably loads of them).
American guy and a German guy on a moped stopped me while walking down beach road one afternoon. As soon as they asked me if I spoke English I knew what was coming. Said they were doing a promotion, one produced a scratch card, it's just a scratch card, don't need to buy anything, can win a prize, oh my surprise surprise the first one I win a tshirt, my lucky day, I can have another go free as well, second card I win a BIG prize, but I must go pick it up, preferably now as they close soon, all I have to do is watch a presentation, I can just leave anytime, they don't care because they get their commission just for me going and I get a prize anyway blah blah blah blah!
Heard it a million times. But God these guys were persistent. Annoyingly so. Smarmy and seedy sales types! I was getting a bit pissed off that they wouldn't take no for an answer so just let them do their 10 minute bullshit, proved I had a credit card, gave them wrong hotel and room number and promised I'd be at reception next morning at 10am.
Twats!
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Had a German come up to me on a motorbike a few months ago and did the same scam on me -- scratched off the card and said I won some big prize. He was probably in his early fifties or late forties, grayish hair and about 5'10. He was alone. He wanted me to come with him to Jomtien. I smelled a scam so I said no thanks. He was a bit pissed off but fuck him - I've been here long enough to know a scam when I see one (at least most of the time).[/QUOTE]That will be the same German twat that tried the hard sell on me last time. Cant wait to get back there in two weeks. Gonna make him do the whole spiel again and give the wrong hotel and room number!! He should be out drinking and looking at naked girls rather than wasting his time trying to rip off poor Mongers!
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]Evil, thanks as ever for the info, and the pics of the girls. From what people had said, I was expecting older, past it witches. Those girls are on par to the best I've seen, and if they are skilled in the art of fucking and sucking, all the better. I arrive at my 'place' on Soi LK Metro at about 1000 on Sat 21 June, 3 hours later, I know where I'll be, 200 m up the road in hell!
Cheers
Pete [/quote]
Unfortunately, in the past, there has been a fair amount of disinformation on various boards about both the Hell Club and the Eden Club. Sometimes it's been deliberate, the echo of old wars on one of the Bangkok boards; other times, it's the result of the unlucky timing of a visit or failing to ask to see the line up.
I've found the best way to refute misconceptions is through posting photos and text that give an accurate picture of Eden and Hell. I hope to post more pics of both Hell and Eden ladies in the not-too-distant future.
[QUOTE=Petemcc]Addition. Looking at the photos again, there's at least 4 of those girls I would spend my bhat on. Does anyone know, is it possible to have fun with 4 girls in 90 minutes, or is 2 a max and do it twice?[/QUOTE]
The all-in fee for a 90-minute, two-lady session at Hell is 3,600B, with each additional lady costing 1,800B. A four-lady session would then cost 7,200B. The Hell Club has a "party room" to accommodate a larger number of participants.
If you have any special wishes regarding any type of session, don't be shy to talk to the manager or owner about them. Above all, have fun! Please give Cerberus (the owner) my greetings.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Unfortunately, in the past, there has been a fair amount of disinformation on various boards about both the Hell Club and the Eden Club. Sometimes it's been deliberate, the echo of old wars on one of the Bangkok boards; other times, it's the result of the unlucky timing of a visit or failing to ask to see the line up.
I've found the best way to refute misconceptions is through posting photos and text that give an accurate picture of Eden and Hell. I hope to post more pics of both Hell and Eden ladies in the not-too-distant future.
The all-in fee for a 90-minute, two-lady session at Hell is 3,600B, with each additional lady costing 1,800B. A four-lady session would then cost 7,200B. The Hell Club has a "party room" to accommodate a larger number of participants.
If you have any special wishes regarding any type of session, don't be shy to talk to the manager or owner about them. Above all, have fun! Please give Cerberus (the owner) my greetings.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Cheers mate. What I meant with the 4 is, is it prudent to take 4 girls, or is it just a waste of poon?
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[QUOTE=El Greco]You are not going to loose your 90 min but your money too if you ever buy a timesharing program from them.
They did the same scam in my country. It was on TV a couple of years ago where I live. Lots of victims.
Stay away.[/QUOTE]
nah - I didn't just ride on im the khao san truck (*khao san" means bags of rice)
the Ameircan expression is "just rode in on the turnip truck".
They weren't getting anything real out of me (maybe a headache) - it was just a ride BACK to Jomtien - if it had been in the other direction I wouldn't have bothered. Indian guy from Goa. said didn't speak Thai. wouldn't give me the T-shirt either which sort of pissed me off a bit. I ENJOY mind games with inferior mentality. Only thing difficult was keeping the dates straight so I had to keep subtracting 3 years which kind of messed up things I think.
If had been a poo-ying might have been more interested. The "office girl" at the desk was more of a "dragon lady" - I wouldn't fuck her with your dick.
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]Cheers mate. What I meant with the 4 is, is it prudent to take 4 girls, or is it just a waste of poon?[/QUOTE]
That's very much a subjective situation and the answer will vary from individual to individual. Some guys find being with multiple ladies a huge psychological turn on, others find it a waste. I'd say that more than three is a bit impractical but still a lot of fun. The advantage of picking ladies from Eden or Hell is that they work so well together, so there's no "dead time" if you have three or four or however many. They've done it before and know how to work it. And if you're into watching lesbian activities, they do that very well, too.
Bottom line: You probably get more bang for your buck if you take them two by two, but a FFFFM orgy can be quite exciting.
Evil
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Shopping for suits and shirts
Hello,
Can anyone recomend a taylor to buy custom made suits and shirts in Bangkok or Pataya? I'll be looking around Nana Plaza for a taylor around May 26-27. Then onto Pattaya.
Any help apriciated!
Thanks!
Belmont
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Hello,
Can anyone recomend a taylor to buy custom made suits and shirts in Bangkok or Pataya? I'll be looking around Nana Plaza for a taylor around May 26-27. Then onto Pattaya.
Any help apriciated!
Thanks!
Belmont[/QUOTE]There is this guy on the beach road (Pattaya) and on nana (BKK) that is always selling hugo boss and armani. Youl recognize him because he will be the guy trying to shake your hand saying "Hello, my freind". I can't remebr his name but I'm sure youll bump into him in Pattaya or his brother in BKK
Great suits!
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Trip Report May 2008
Hello,
I have stayed the last two weeks in Pattaya. It is the low season over there (from May up to July). And it is very hot during the day. In the evening it rains sometimes.
Taxi from airport to Pattaya 1. 150 Baht THB and from Pattaya to airport 1. 300 Baht THB. I know you could use Bell Travel by bus instead.
Hotel (off 2nd road) room per night 650 Baht THB. Thai food incl. Drink 100 Baht THB.
I have been confused about closing the "GoGo Streets" before Walking Street. Now they have got a "City Pattaya Walk". And "Boyztown" has got 3 Sois already.
How about Soi 7? They have closed all the beer bars on the left side in the middle of this street (you are coming from 2nd road).
Current prices:
- barfine from 200 to 300 Baht THB depends on bar;
Small bar 300 and bigger bar 200 only
- longtime from 1. 000 to 1. 500 Baht THB depends on YOU;
Lt from midnight including morning and afternoon 4 o'clock (p. M.)
I have not got information of GoGo bars.
Please, do not pay per BBFS, do pay per timeline.
Take care, do not "shopping girls" at Beach Road.
Regards
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]That's very much a subjective situation and the answer will vary from individual to individual. Some guys find being with multiple ladies a huge psychological turn on, others find it a waste. I'd say that more than three is a bit impractical but still a lot of fun. The advantage of picking ladies from Eden or Hell is that they work so well together, so there's no "dead time" if you have three or four or however many. They've done it before and know how to work it. And if you're into watching lesbian activities, they do that very well, too.
Bottom line: You probably get more bang for your buck if you take them two by two, but a FFFFM orgy can be quite exciting.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Thanks Evil. I think for a novice ( I've had lots of 2x with bargirls, not professionals) probably 2 is enough. I shall see how the girls are, what really turns me on, and ask them what they would do if there was a third one present.
Pete
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[QUOTE=Rockabilly77]There is this guy on the beach road (Pattaya) and on nana (BKK) that is always selling hugo boss and armani. Youl recognize him because he will be the guy trying to shake your hand saying "Hello, my freind". I can't remebr his name but I'm sure youll bump into him in Pattaya or his brother in BKK
Great suits![/QUOTE]
All the Indian tailors on beach road and second road jump out in front of you and want to shake your hand.
They are a fucking pain in the arse!
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All tailors in Thailand
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]All the Indian tailors on Beach Road and Second Road jump out in front of you and want to shake your hand.
They are a fucking pain in the arse![/QUOTE]All tailors in Thailand is fake -- from London-- Kasmier all fake all made of a kind og goritex same same as plastik bag form supermarket
This is not a joke its tru
There is no inport from other contry.
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Hello,
Can anyone recomend a taylor to buy custom made suits and shirts in Bangkok or Pataya? [/QUOTE]
About 99% of the tailor shops in Thailand, maybe 100% in Pattaya, are "measurers," not tailors. The clothes you order are actually sewn in off-premise central sweat shops. But there are actually a few real tailors in Bangkok. One is Narin Couture on Sukhumvit Road 180, between Soi 10 and Soi 12 (it's closer to Soi 12). The owner, Peter, is Chinese Thai and has European training (worked in Paris before). He is a Zegna-certified tailor and all his stuff is sewn on the premises under his supervision. Becoming a Zegna-certified tailor is very difficult, sort of like winning a gold medal in the Olympics.
The best fabrics in the world come from Italy - Ermenegildo Zegna or Loro Piana - and Peter does suits in both. They aren't cheap, expect to pay a minimum of $700 for a suit from Narin, but it is top quality fabric and tailoring and would cost at least US$2,000 - $3,000 in North America. He requires a minimum (that's minimum) of three fittings (he'll want five for a Zegna suit) and it takes 4-5 days to finish, assuming he has the fabric on hand.
One sign that he sells on reputation and quality is the absence of any touts for his shop.
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Indian tailors
Are they Thai citizens?How the hell can they ply their trade for so long?
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[QUOTE=Member #3173]Are they Thai citizens?How the hell can they ply their trade for so long?[/QUOTE]
Of course they're Thai citizens. What a stupid question. Thailand has a very large native Indian population that have been here hundreds of years. Go to Paharat next to Yoawarat (Chinatown) in Bangkok. This is the Indian neighbourhood, which by the way is the centre of the cloth trade.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Of course they're Thai citizens. What a stupid question. Thailand has a very large native Indian population that have been here hundreds of years. Go to Paharat next to Yoawarat (Chinatown) in Bangkok. This is the Indian neighbourhood, which by the way is the centre of the cloth trade.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's not a stupid question. I've wondered why there were so many Indian tailors in Pattaya too. The UK has many non native Indians living there. So why not Thailand. Oh what a stupid person I am!!
Johnthescot
p.s. I'd love just to read ISG one day when someone wasn't bloody arrogant or downright rude to another member for no reason other than just for the hell of it. Just a thought. But I guess they think they've 'earned' the right!
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Go to Paharat next to Yoawarat (Chinatown) in Bangkok. This is the Indian neighbourhood, which by the way is the centre of the cloth trade.[/QUOTE]
Also, in the eighties, used to be the only place to get decent Indian food in Bangkok; at the scruffy, hole in the wall Royal India (still going strong I believe and producing some of the most authentic North Indian food in Thailand).
Why the fuck is this on the Pattaya board? I don't know either. Sorry. GH
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Bill's Hint #2
As some of you know I live in Pattaya and post some useful highly classified information that is available to most experienced mongers that go out of their way to fiend different and unusual experience to spice of my day. Every now and then I post the classified information to help out the first time visitor or for that matter some very experience visitors. So here goes Bill’s Helpful Hints Volume #2.
I tried a new service getting to the airport that worked out extremely well. The name of the company is Bell Travel and for 150 Baht they will pick you up at you hotel or condo and take you to the bus station and then transport you to the airport. The bus was much nicer than the regular buses. I have always used taxies in the past and the cost is 800 baht plus tolls. I would highly recommend this service when leaving Pattaya. There number is 038-370-055. They leave Pattaya ever two odd number hours. It adds ½ hour to an hour to your travel time as opposed to the taxi service. But then again when ordering a taxi I am always sitting there and hoping they show up.
They also will take you from the airport to Pattaya for 150 Baht and leave every two hours on the even hours. After a 36 hour of travel I ended up taking a taxi at a total cost of 1,300 baht, I was too tired to wait the hour for the bus ride. But if your flight hits the right schedule and you don’t have to wait to long I would use them. There number in Bangkok is 0-247-4675-6. The bus leaves on the bottom floor from gate #7, so you really don’t need to really make reservations, just show up at the gate and start asking around for Bell Travel. Real good service that could save over two thousand baht getting to and from Pattaya and only an hour to an hour added to your travel time.
If you ever wondered where all the go-go and bar girls go in the day time and want a little action with the same girls you see in the go-go bars but are tired of paying the bar fines and the 1,500 or short time and 2,000 for long there is an alternative but this requires a little work and you need to talk to more than one girl to hit it off with her. But, if you use this trick not only will you save money, your total experience with the girl will be of much higher quality than taking them out of the bar, as you are now much more that a customer, but a friend that is going out of the way to meet then out side of the bar and showing them more respect, which they love and you receive the benefits ten fold over the normal experience.
Have you ever wondered where all the girls go in the daytime. Well most of them are sleeping. But on Thursday and Friday there is a market on Soi Buakhoa (this is spelled wrong.) It is an out door market when many of the girls go to buy there cloths and food. The time to show up is between 1PM to 5Pm based on you objective for that day. If your looking for a short time experience without have to pay the bar fine and the ladies will also will charge you a little less because this unexpected cash to them. You can get a real stunner from a go-go bar for as little as 500 Baht for short time that day if you show up before 3 PM.
For shortimes that day show up between 1Pm to 3Pm to give them time to provide the service and get to work on time. If you’re looking for a girl to meet a girl and want to go to the bar and meet her latter the best time to meet them is between 3Pm to 5PM. By establishing a relationship before you meet them at the bar, the level of you enjoyment is increased 10 fold, because they now think of you as a friend that made a special trip just to meet them and they all love that little bit of extra attention.
Of special note, make sure to buy them some clothes they like at the market of their choice, your cost should be only be around 200 Baht and you get 5,000 Baht back in their appreciation of your treating them like a friend, really the best investment you can make while in Pattaya.
The market is located right off South Pattaya road about a half block past Dot Com. If your not sure what I am talking about, you can ask anybody about Soi Buakhoa.
I meet one our regular readers and gave him this inside information and he said he was going to post on its usefulness, let’s see if he does.
But, this is a supper hot insider tips that can be used by any visitor that will not only save you money, but the most important part increase you overall satisfaction of the experience as the girls now think of you as a friend and will be bragging to all of the other girls about the special friend she meet who really likes her as a person and she just can’t wait of you to get to the bar.
The best part the girls your paying 1,500 plus a bar fine of 600 baht can now be had for 500 baht for an afternoon experience. But if you meet them at the bar latter the cost will be the same as any regular customer, but the experience will be much greater.
A highly recommend way of attacking this situation is do a little shopping with them and buy them an out fit for around 200 baht and then take them across the street and get them a cup of coffee at Dot Com and sit an talk for a while. The girls just love this, and as I said previous you paid back ten fold for being that nice friend that wants more out of them but just sex, you are their friend and they treat their friends much nice than a regular customer.
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Great Report!
[QUOTE=Bill Miami] ... Have you ever wondered where all the girls go in the daytime. Well most of them are sleeping. But on Thursday and Friday there is a market on Soi Buakhoa (this is spelled wrong.) ... [/QUOTE]
Good information, however, the daytime market on Soi Buakhow is open on Tuesday & Friday -- not Thursday. Lots of great bargains.
Yes, the market is very crowded and there are many lovely females to be seen there, but how does one know that a lady is a go-go dancer or P4P? In other words, how do you know which girls to target and which to pass by?
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Day time market Soi Buakhow
Two photos of that market, photographed from the forth floor of the Buakhow Massage. I'm just back from Thailand after 1 month of vacation and will report next week about my experience and a nice, unexpected ball massage in the Sauna on Second Road.
Yours
Lemon Tree
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Question
So I'm passing thru Bangkok in January and to be honest, asian women are not my thing. I ran into a couple drunken American fellas at Nana Plaza, who are now BK residents and ask them if any euro or white gals avail. They tell me I need to go to Pattaya or Phuket I think, I can't recall as I was very drunk at the time. They said there are many avail.
Does anyone know if there is some truth to this? I will be going back to BK this fall for some dental work and would love to venture elsewhere if what they speak of really exists. I would appreciate any help.
GT
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]All the Indian tailors on beach road and second road jump out in front of you and want to shake your hand.
They are a fucking pain in the arse![/QUOTE]Thats kinda what i was getting at. They aren't hard to find!
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
p.s. I'd love just to read ISG one day when someone wasn't bloody arrogant or downright rude to another member for no reason other than just for the hell of it. Just a thought. But I guess they think they've 'earned' the right![/QUOTE]
Well said John - its an unfortunate fact that, because they have submitted more times than anyone else, this appears to give certain senior members the right to belittle newer members. Sort of like roosters crowing on a shitpile (analogy only, I am not slagging anyone off). GH
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Bill Miami,
if you mean Tuk.com, then you are so right about the market. i stayed in an apartment behind Day and Night Hotel the area has a lot of gay establishments but there are also many great looking girls around there when the bars of Walking St. closed. Also some of the girls working the stalls are available. I was offered a threesome by a former Angelwitch girl and her mate who has a noodle stall. I had to decline as we couldn't agree on the ground rules, and they had a friend worked in the bar downstairs from my apartment. I also ran into an ex at that market and had to explain why I had dumped her.everal hours my explanation took several hour as I reaquainted myself with her body.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Well said John - its an unfortunate fact that, because they have submitted more times than anyone else, this appears to give certain senior members the right to belittle newer members. Sort of like roosters crowing on a shitpile (analogy only, I am not slagging anyone off). GH[/QUOTE]Shit how did you know that was my name?? I thought it was all anonymous!!
This will help get me to Senior Member status so I can start being rude and obnoxious!
Only joking guys. Some guys on here might be total wankers with their heads up their own arses but I still appreciate all the advice they give.
Thanks a lot.
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Green_Thumb]So I'm passing thru Bangkok in January and to be honest, asian women are not my thing. I ran into a couple drunken American fellas at Nana Plaza, who are now BK residents and ask them if any euro or white gals avail. They tell me I need to go to Pattaya or Phuket I think, I can't recall as I was very drunk at the time. They said there are many avail.
Does anyone know if there is some truth to this? I will be going back to BK this fall for some dental work and would love to venture elsewhere if what they speak of really exists. I would appreciate any help.
GT[/QUOTE]
Go to the Galaxy club on walking street in Pattaya and get ripped off
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Shit how did you know that was my name?? I thought it was all anonymous!!
This will help get me to Senior Member status so I can start being rude and obnoxious!
Only joking guys. Some guys on here might be total wankers with their heads up their own arses but I still appreciate all the advice they give.
Thanks a lot.
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Yes, its amazing what can be deduced with...well, a bit of deduction. Like you've only been a ISG member a short time (but longer than me and I have joined the senior elite ...hah, hah) and have already correctly deduced that there are folk here with their heads so far up their own arses that they need a cave rescue team. Incredible - you deserve a Jackson special award for astuteness.
I guess the problem is that us senior member special elite consider all you nooby new guys as so green and tourist stupid that we do you a special favour by answering your ridiculous questions in as rude, arrogant and obnoxious a way as possible thus ensuring that you either give up mongering completely thus leaving more totty for us or else soldier on manfully as one of those disgusting lurkers until somehow you magically achieve elite senior status and then we will tolerate your presence on 'our' board.
But don't hold your breath;) ;) GH
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yes, its amazing what can be deduced with...well, a bit of deduction. Like you've only been a ISG member a short time (but longer than me and I have joined the senior elite ...hah, hah) and have already correctly deduced that there are folk here with their heads so far up their own arses that they need a cave rescue team. Incredible - you deserve a Jackson special award for astuteness.
I guess the problem is that us senior member special elite consider all you nooby new guys as so green and tourist stupid that we do you a special favour by answering your ridiculous questions in as rude, arrogant and obnoxious a way as possible thus ensuring that you either give up mongering completely thus leaving more totty for us or else soldier on manfully as one of those disgusting lurkers until somehow you magically achieve elite senior status and then we will tolerate your presence on 'our' board.
But don't hold your breath;) ;) GH[/QUOTE]Hey Deducer,
What a ridiculous thing to say. You're a wanker. Fuck off back to your own country!
Oh wait, sorry I'm just a regular member!! How presumtious of me!
Anyway I plan to bug the shit out of the lot of you with all my exploits in 2 weeks time (including the bad stupid stuff because I'm nothing if not honest. And I'm not a Nooby. Just dont preach about it to everyone!
So anyone fancy a beer on 7th in Bangkok? I'm buying. And for a Scot that is a major big deal!
Johnthetightfistedbastard
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
Yes, the market is very crowded and there are many lovely females to be seen there, but how does one know that a lady is a go-go dancer or P4P? In other words, how do you know which girls to target and which to pass by?[/QUOTE]
I would estimate that at least 30 to 50% of the girls shopping at the market are girls working at some kind of bar. So if you talk to enough you’re sure to find one.
But, by far the best way to increase your odds is look at the way the are dressed. If they have very short pants, or a short shirt showing their belly button your odds of them being a working girl is 90%. If they have all of the above and are showing cleave then the odds are 99%.
If they are eager to talk to you and don't just blow you off then they are almost assuredly working girls. In fact this is a very good way to fiend a girl friend that will stay with you your entire vacation for much less than if you took them out of a bar that is if you are going to be here at least two weeks. These girls change bars so often and it is so easy for then to find another job they really don’t care much about where they are working.
This only works though at the beginning of the month. The girls all get paid their salary at the end of the month. So if you meet them at the end of the month they are going to wait until they get their salary before they quit being with you full time. But then again their salary usually only ranges between 8,000 to 15,000 except for the show girls, so if you really like they girl tell them you will pay their salary for the month and they will be more than happy to quit their job and stay with you full time for 1,000 a day or so.
But, you need to treat them nice and take them out to dinner, take them shopping and do a little sight seeing, such as jet skiing, riding on the sale boats, taking the out to dinner and above all take them dancing.
Not many of the girls have enough money to go to the Hard Rock Café disco which is a really special treat because the are really moving up scale. A lot of the girls love to go bowling and to the movies.
All in all your total cost will be relatively the same as if you went to the bar each and every night and got a different girl. But the appreciation, love, attention and over all experience will be greatly enhanced. You just need to be careful are realize what your really dealing with and not fall in love, as so many of the inexperienced guys do, which takes you total cost to a completely next level.
In addition, many of the girls you are going to meet are going to be bi-sexual and love nothing better than attending the go-go bars with you and finding their own special lady for both of you to spend the evening with.
I know that reading this for the first time you realize that I am a very shallow person that only cares about having as much fun as I can possibly fit into a single day and should be concerned about my job and future. But, since I make great money here working only three hours a day I have to find something to fill up the rest of the day so I am not bored and this is what I have decided to. I know I am a low life scumbag, but I go to sleep every night with a smile on my face glad I no longer am forced to live in the rat race and to tell you the truth I love being a ***** monger low life scumbag.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Hey Deducer,
What a ridiculous thing to say. You're a wanker. Fuck off back to your own country!
Oh wait, sorry I'm just a regular member!! How presumtious of me!
Anyway I plan to bug the shit out of the lot of you with all my exploits in 2 weeks time (including the bad stupid stuff because I'm nothing if not honest. And I'm not a Nooby. Just dont preach about it to everyone!
So anyone fancy a beer on 7th in Bangkok? I'm buying. And for a Scot that is a major big deal!
Johnthetightfistedbastard[/QUOTE]
Hey John,
Your not one of these strange, north of the border persons who take a 'wee dram' and then threaten 'alputtheheedonyea' to anyone within nutting range, are you? No I think not; in fact I suspect that you cannot be Gaelic at all as you actually offered to buy a beer!!! That is definately not a Jockish trait, is it?
Anyway I imagine there are super special elite senior members who would be willing to descend to the level of drinking with the regular hoi polloi. Some people have no pride. But it would be worth it to see your tears as you dug your short arms into your long pockets.
Enjoy your exploits and bug away ;) GH
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hey John,
Your not one of these strange, north of the border persons who take a 'wee dram' and then threaten 'alputtheheedonyea' to anyone within nutting range, are you? No I think not; in fact I suspect that you cannot be Gaelic at all as you actually offered to buy a beer!!! That is definately not a Jockish trait, is it?
Anyway I imagine there are super special elite senior members who would be willing to descend to the level of drinking with the regular hoi polloi. Some people have no pride. But it would be worth it to see your tears as you dug your short arms into your long pockets.
Enjoy your exploits and bug away ;) GH[/QUOTE]yes Gamahucher (isn't that a posh french term for a pussy hound if my memory serves??) your powers of deduction know no bounds and I am in fact from north of 'the border' but I am sadly exiled in Engerland at the moment and it's been ages since I've had a 'wee dram' and headbutted anyone. I miss the drunken violence and deep fried Mars bars and shit, cold weather of my homeland :-) I think the fact that I've offered to buy a drink proves that I've been away far too long and need to be heading home soon before I become too English and start drinking cider or half pints of lager shandy like a big girl!
No offence!
Johnthescot
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Great pattaya website
No doubt it's been posted before (yes I know I should learn how to search the site better blah blah) but I came across a really cool website, on wikipedia of all places (clever, interesting non mongering site:-))
[url]http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?HSuRUrJokcoE[/url]
Cool walk through images and maps of Pattaya including walking street. Provided by google. Clever. check it out.
Johnthescot
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Pattaya Fetish Bdsm Scene Question
Hello everybody,
I have been reading the forum for two months now and I decided to join the monger comunity. I am planing my first trip to LOS and Pattaya in August. THis forum has provided me all the information possible that a rookie should know and I can't wait to add my own contribution. But even thought I RTFF day and night I still could not find an answer regarding the fetish bdsm scene.
Does BKK or Pattaya have a bdsm fetish scene or for this purpose is a dead trip and LOS is something only for massages and cheap normal sex?
Any response will be greatly appreciated.
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Unexpected balls massage in the Sauna
I stayed in Pattaya from middle of April until middle of May.
One day my permanent asked me to visit a sauna. Sauna?? 35 ° Celsius outside and then a sauna? But ok, why not. Let’s try.
The sauna is on Second Road opposite Soi 6. Inside they have a steam sauna like a Turkish bath and a dry air sauna, 3 Jacuzzis and 4 showers. Nice location. The Thai girls like that place to scrub their skin.
In the background there are some rooms for massage. Thai massage as well as oil massage.
After 3 relaxed hours in the sauna we decided to have a 1 hour oil massage. My lady went at first into that massage room, I followed 2 minutes later. The massage ladies couldn’t realize that we belonged together. Therefore they closed the curtain between her and my massage bed.
OK.
First backside. Excellent massage. Then turn. A lot of oil in the centre and suddenly she started to massage my dick and my balls. Oh my god. On one side that was an excellent feeling. Wow.
On the other side – my lady. I tried to relax and thought about football and the weather and so on. That succeeded 2 or 3 minutes. How did that massage girl look like? I didn’t look at her when I entered the room. And inside the room the illumination wasn’t bright. So was she old or young? Beautiful or ugly? No idea. But her hands worked unbelievable good.
After 3 minutes I lost control. Junior was stiff like a hero. He enjoyed that. Now the lady toughed me lightly. Unspoken question – shall I continue or not?? Shock.
I bow my head and compressed my lips. I wished I could groan. But no sound from my mouth. 5 minutes later the volcano spit fire. Ahhhh.
I didn’t realise that she finished the normal massage. I was confused about the situation. She went away; my lady and I took our towels and went for shower.
Then we dressed and went together to the reception and paid. At the entrance on a bench sat two ladies, waiting for a tip.
I went behind my lady, because I didn’t know, which one lend her hand on me. But when I saw the wide open eyes of one of the ladies, she realized, what had happened – and that my lady laid beside me when she made her excellent dick and balls massage. Finally she smiled and I smiled too. And of course I gave her a real good tip.
Middle aged, not a sweetie, but not really ugly to. No name, on the nameplate was written: M8.
OK, I likes sauna already before. But that kind of experience was great.
Highly recommended, especially in that special situation.
Enjoy your life.
Lemon Tree
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Beergarden Pattaya
During my vacation April/May I had a close look at the new Beergarden. If you don’t know that location, you will pass. Only a small sign at the entrance of the Bar Beer Complex at the corner of Beachroad and Walking Street. You have to pass the whole beer bars until you reach the Beergarden.
A round bar in the middle and an excellent terrace outside with a wonderful view around.
Well, not so many customers and girls at that time. May be, because it isn’t well-known in the moment. But finally a location that is worth a visit.
Lemon Tree
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Marriott?
I have a bunck of Marriott points that I was thinking about burning in Pattaya. But, I did a search and couldn't find out if the Marriott is Girl Friendly.
What do you guys think? Is the Marriott Girl Friendly? Anybody have an idea what it's like? Is it a nice place?
Thanks,
Randito
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Marriott is GF
I stayed there a few years ago, I had NO problems bringing girls back to my room. You can enter the property from both 2nd road or from the beach road.
It's a short stroll from walking street. No problems bringing the girls back, but don't try to take them to the morning breakfast unless they put on something conservative.
RG.
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]During my vacation April/May I had a close look at the new Beergarden. If you don’t know that location, you will pass. Only a small sign at the entrance of the Bar Beer Complex at the corner of Beachroad and Walking Street. You have to pass the whole beer bars until you reach the Beergarden.
A round bar in the middle and an excellent terrace outside with a wonderful view around.
Well, not so many customers and girls at that time. May be, because it isn’t well-known in the moment. But finally a location that is worth a visit.
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
Great bar for a quiet afternoon drink, food OK as well, not the best place to find girls at the moment, maybe it will get busier when more people get to hear about it.
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Old man back from Thailand with his new Thai bride.
Lying in bed, the Thai bride is playing with his manhood, slowly stroking it up and down.
The old boy says, 'You must love that, you haven't left it alone since we got back!'
The bride replied, 'Not really, I just miss mine.'
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[QUOTE=Lethalsoul]Old man back from Thailand with his new Thai bride.
Lying in bed, the Thai bride is playing with his manhood, slowly stroking it up and down.
The old boy says, 'You must love that, you haven't left it alone since we got back!'
The bride replied, 'Not really, I just miss mine.'[/QUOTE]Lol, thats good. I'll have to remember that one!
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Excellent. Lethalsoul!
I haven't stopped laughing yet!
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Marriott
[QUOTE=Randito]I have a bunck of Marriott points that I was thinking about burning in Pattaya. But, I did a search and couldn't find out if the Marriott is Girl Friendly. [/QUOTE]
I've stayed at the Marriott for years, and the Royal Garden Hotel before it was the Marriott. There's never been a guest fee and it's rare I've spent the night alone. Definitiely GFF. It's a little pricier than other hotels, but the location is excellent; very close to the nightlife and anything you need at the adjacent mall. It's probably one of the nicest hotels in central Pattaya.
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Marriot
I guess its not up on the level that the Marriot is, but I choose to stay at the Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
If you book the sea view room at a rate of 1500 its very nice.
Its small cozy, quiet at night, but still in the center of everything. Its even have a nice pool. And the staff are just lovely and fantastic there.
Every time I go there I buy a bottle of black label for the man in charge downstairs.
That gives me a lot of benefits. Even the hotel are perfectly girl friendly from before.
If you want to book. Book on Scandibar.com Then you dont have to use any creditcards during booking. Just based on trust. You even get a free beer in Scandinavia bar every day for you stay.
Good luck.
Kenorvik.
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[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]I guess its not up on the level that the Marriot is, but I choose to stay at the Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
If you book the sea view room at a rate of 1500 its very nice.
Its small cozy, quiet at night, but still in the center of everything. Its even have a nice pool. And the staff are just lovely and fantastic there.
Every time I go there I buy a bottle of black label for the man in charge downstairs.
That gives me a lot of benefits. Even the hotel are perfectly girl friendly from before.
If you want to book. Book on Scandibar.com Then you dont have to use any creditcards during booking. Just based on trust. You even get a free beer in Scandinavia bar every day for you stay.
Good luck.
Kenorvik.[/QUOTE]Seaview-room from May 1. to 'Dec. 24 is 1600 Baht.
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Marriott
Randito,
I suggest you pay Jackson his $19.95 so that you can send and receive PMs. This should be on the Pattaya hotel thread. I stayed at the Marriott some months ago. Perfect location. Great pool. Excellent Gym. Completely GF. Too expensive for the conditions of the rooms. Bathrooms suck for the price one has to pay. Charge for internet. Good breakfast as at all Marriotts. You will gain weight at the Benihana Sunday Brunch with chocolate room. I will stay there again because the pros outweigh the cons.
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Pattaya fetish scene, the Castle
[quote=zap2003]hello everybody,
i have been reading the forum for two months now and i decided to join the monger comunity. i am planing my first trip to los and pattaya in august. this forum has provided me all the information possible that a rookie should know and i can't wait to add my own contribution. but even thought i rtff day and night i still could not find an answer regarding the fetish bdsm scene.
does bkk or pattaya have a bdsm fetish scene or for this purpose is a dead trip and los is something only for massages and cheap normal sex?
any response will be greatly appreciated.[/quote]i am currently living in buenos aires but was last in pattaya in 2006.
on that visit amongst my constant mongering endeavors, i did try out a fetish club of which i believe is the only one.
i went alone, and you must dress in something black to get in, and a peephole in on the door opens to ask if you have been there before, not sure why but i played along. anyway when inside i sat at the bar and only one other was there at that time, it was early evening.
they had a few different stage show scenes going on with girls dressed in latex, schoolgirl, nurses etc. and doing some bondage and spanking/strapping displays. i was told that if i want to touch any girls of interest to go ahead. once you show that interest the girls take you to a private room. i had select 3 hot ones and they put me in a dentist chair and had me disrope while they massaged, sucked and displayed what i desired accept no actual penetration was allowed in the club as you strike a deal for an outcall.
i forgot the prices ut wasnt that cheap but a memeorable experience never the less. check it out below.
[url]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/site.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Zap2003]Hello everybody,
I have been reading the forum for two months now and I decided to join the monger comunity. I am planing my first trip to LOS and Pattaya in August. THis forum has provided me all the information possible that a rookie should know and I can't wait to add my own contribution. But even thought I RTFF day and night I still could not find an answer regarding the fetish bdsm scene.
Does BKK or Pattaya have a bdsm fetish scene or for this purpose is a dead trip and LOS is something only for massages and cheap normal sex?
Any response will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
There is a small BDSM scene, apart from The Castle in Pattaya there is Demonia on Soi 33 Bangkok and also BARBAR in Patpong, they like you to wear black but it is not essential ----expensive though, 900 baht entrance includes your first drink.
[url]www.barbar-bangkok.com[/url]
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Anybody else getting free sex in Pattaya??
Heheheheh. Just wanted to know if other people like me are playing these tricks to get free sex in Pattaya. If you've read 'ChicksforFree' on Stickman or one of my many columns, you know what I'm talking about. I don't pay for sex. I play games and trick the girls into giving it to me!
I am literally 'living it up' in Patts on 2, 000 baht a day.
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Thank You
Jimmy and Expat
Thank you for you answers. I have foud those websites myself but almost no reviews or opinions. I guess I will try them anyway and see how it goes.
Happy hunting
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Run Man
RUn man I don't know what you mean.Tell me how can I send you what you have asked me and I will do it.
Zap
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Falang shortage
It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.
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[QUOTE=Zap2003]RUn man I don't know what you mean.Tell me how can I send you what you have asked me and I will do it.Zap[/QUOTE]
I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
[b] Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. [/b]
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
[b] Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. [/b][/QUOTE]Zap should pay up.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
[b] Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. [/b][/QUOTE]
Run Mann, Zap is a regular member and can not recieve PM's.
Have a read of FAQ's, Membership Type questions.
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]Run Mann, Zap is a regular member and can not recieve PM's.
Have a read of FAQ's, Membership Type questions.[/QUOTE]
You should read it because some regular members can receive PMs. There's no way to tell if a reg member can receive PMs until you send it to them as was the case here.
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[QUOTE=Belmont]It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.[/QUOTE]
I'll be there by noon today! I love low crowds and bagain fares!
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]You should read it because some regular members can receive PMs. There's no way to tell if a reg member can receive PMs until you send it to them as was the case here.[/QUOTE]
I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.
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P4p
[QUOTE=Bob Down]I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.[/QUOTE]
I think regular members can receive PM's if they pay the $19.95 subscription fee. I could send and receive PM's before I became a senior member because I paid the fee.
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.[/QUOTE]
The Q and A below was taken from the Forum FAQ. You clearly did not read it and the word is receive and not the way you spelt it in your last two posts.
[B]Q-Do I have to be a Forum Member to access the Private Messaging system?[/b]
A-Yes. You must be logged in as a Regular or Senior Member to use the Private Message System.
[b]Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system. [/b]
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[QUOTE=Belmont]It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.[/QUOTE]Guess that means 'free' sex then huh?
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Summer in the City of Sin by the Sea
i am a college professor, divorced who just turned 50, from the midwestern united states. with the summer off (except an online class that i am actually teaching from thailand). i have decided to spend my summer in pattaya. i was able to obtain a very good monthly rate in the off-season of 13,900 baht plus electric, which should be about $500.00 us a month. this hotel has free wireless internet, in-room electronic safe, pool on the roof, owned by an american, and is well located. they have no problem with guest and i am very satisfied with my hotel choice. i do not want to publicly post the name. however ,if you pm me i will give you the hotel information. they have a good web site. i stayed at the flipper lodge on soi 8 in december (when i was on christmas break). i was satisfied with the flipper, and would have returned there, however they would not offer a monthly rate.
i obtained a 90 day double entry tourist visa for $60.00 through the mail before i entered thailand. i left from the detroit airport may 13, and after 30 hours of travel, i arrived in pattaya in the early morning hours of may 15. upon entry at the bangkok airport, my passport was stamped with a 60 day stamp. which reading this and other forums, i knew was likely to happen. my return ticket is for august 4. so i have the alternative of going to an immigration office in pattaya and paying 1900 baht for a 30 extension or leaving the country and returning. i am considering spending a week in siem reap, cambodia, and see the angkor wat. i am thinking of going july 1 – 8, then returning to pattaya. i would like some suggestions as to hotels to stay in siem reap? should i fly or take a bus? suggestions from those who have been there would be most welcome.
let me share some information and opinion with forum readers on pattaya. i will start with the low end and work up to the higher end.
beach girls
the lowest end is the “beach girls”. these are independent ladies that are working all along the beach. they are short time specialist and the standard price 500 baht. i have actually found a couple of diamonds in the rough. and rough is the right word for many of these girls. most are a bit older, have had children, and have been struck with an ugly stick. another disadvantage is that there are many ladyboys working the beach. actually some of the ladyboys, are prettier than the many of the beach girls, but they are not my interest, i require the proper plumbing. the advantages of the beach girls are that they are available 24/7. before i got my time adjusted, i was taking walks along beach road as soon as it was daylight at 6:00 am and girls were available. the main advantage is no lady drinks, or bar fines, and only a 500 baht fee. it is hard to know exactly, but i would estimate between 300-400 girls are working the beach.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is actually a short walk from my hotel on soi diana off soi 14 from second road. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is 700 baht for a blow job upstairs. of the 700 baht the girl gets 300 baht and the bar gets 400 baht. the girls set outside the bar, and there are about 40 girls working at any one time. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] opens in the late afternoon and is open until 3:00 am. you simply pick the girl you want and pay the bar and take her upstairs. though you could do [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for only 700 baht, i believe that most men’s toll would be about 1000 baht, because you are likely to relax and purchase a drink and you will most likely purchase a “lady drink” for the girl that you have selected, and you will most likely want to leave the girl a 40-100 baht tip. these girls are blow job specialist, they do not require condoms and will allow you to cum in their mouth. so even though your total tariff will be around 1000 baht it is a good value.
soi six
there are 30 to 40 bars along soi six between second road and beach road. with each bar having 30 to 40 girls, some of the larger soi six bars have even more girls. soi six also has ladyboys. soi six bars all have standard pricing 300 baht for use of the room upstairs and 700 baht for the girl. again, you will buy at least one drink for yourself and at least one lady drink for the girl you choose, so your total fare should be around 1,200 – 1,400 baht. i have also taken two girls and had lesbian action and a good threesome for 2,000 baht (1000 for each girl) the key advantages of soi six are that the bars are all inside and air conditioned, making it a very good option for an afternoon. they have music on a computer that customers can control (i like this because i like the blues ,muddy waters, howlin wolf, john lee hooker, and classic rock, the rolling stones, the who) the right music can make your experience better, by putting you in a good mood. you can play pool with the girls and other patrons. you can have a relaxed and fun time at soi six. however, you may feel pressured as you walk along soi six and every girl shouts “wecome” “come one drink” “you handsome man”, but after you enter a bar i always have a good experience. the other advantage is that these girls know what they are doing. if you are going to have brain surgery you want a surgeon with much experience, if you want some really good sex go to soi six because these girls are experienced.
beer bars
the fourth level is my favorite level, because you can find many very pretty young girls to spend all night with you for less than the price of a tank of gas (especially true at $4.00 a gallon). there are about 2000 or more beer bars all over pattaya, with 10 to 30 girls working at each one. you can find all ages, shapes, and sizes of girl at beer bars. the standard bar fine is 300 baht, and 1000 baht for the girl, for long time, which means all night. you get one pop in the evening and a second pop in the morning, if you can perform (i need the help of blue pills, which are readably available without a perception at 100’s of pharmacies). again, you will buy at least one drink for yourself, and you will buy the girl you select at least one lady drink. so your total fare will be around 1,500 baht. i am not a big drinker. if i wanted to stay out until 2:00, 3:00am, and drink 10 beers i could stay home and do that. i am fucking up my vacation if i do not have a 20 year old, pretty, hard-body, naked, in my bed, by midnight. if you are a heavier drinker than me you will need to add more money for beer. beer prices are much lower at beer bars, most 80 -100 baht. i often drink water for 40 -60 baht or a diet coke for 60-80 baht at beer bars.
key advantages of beer bars is you can buy a girl a lady drink and a drink for yourself and the girl will set with you for an hour, playing a couple of different beer bar games or just visit with you depending on her english ability and your thai ability. often you can visit with other westerners, some beer bars have live music, some pretty good, some pretty bad. you have many choices with beer bars, some have very loud music, and many are more relaxed. i never feel pressured at a beer bar. although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from i find myself returning to the same two or three that i like. the key disadvantage of beer bars is they are all outdoors, with no air conditioning, and it is so hot here that the trees often walk around looking for dogs to help cool them off.
soapy massages
on second road and soi 2 there are three soapy places, the best being sabai dee body massage. if you have never experienced this, put it on your “bucket list”. it is not your cheapest choice, 1,700 baht for one hour. but it could be one of the best hours of your life. you select a girl from a “fish bowl” depending when you go you will have 30 – 50 girls to choose from. it opens at 2:00 pm however, all the girls don’t get there until later, maybe 5:00 or 6:00 being a good time to get a soapy. you select a girl and she takes you to a room with a jacuzzi tub, air mattress, and bed. what pleasure these girls can give you with their beautiful young bodies, warm water, and soap is not to be believed until experienced. the advantage is you do not need to purchase drinks for the girl. i usually purchase one drink for myself and spend 20 to 30 minutes looking over all my options.
go go bars
there are go go bars all over pattaya, not just on walking street, although walking street has some of the best, and is not to be missed. the bar fines are double the beer bars, 600 baht at most of them. the girls will also want double the price of beer bar girls as well, for longtime 2000 baht, and may come up with an excuse (sick mother or baby), often after a phone call, not to spent the night with you, and turning the experience into short time. the girl will still like the entire long time fee. here is where you should be strong and tell her that she is free to leave, but if she does she is only leaving with 1000 baht (which is still a high fee for short time). go go bar girls tend to be younger, and prettier, although i have had no problem finding some stunning beauties at beer bars. the key advantage of go go bars is you can see what you are getting. you may get your beer bar girl home and find that she has stretch marks that she kept well hidden. another advantage is they are air conditioned. the disadvantage is price, drinks are more expensive, both yours and your lady drinks. expect to pay 100 to 160 baht for drinks. and from my perspective the music sucks that the girls like to dance too. this is personal preference, if you are younger and in pattaya for a short time, you may prefer go go bars. if you are like me 50 years old and here for an extended period you may prefer the beer bars as i do.
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Great report LOVE SEEKER
Thank you for your report love seeker
But. Did you made any spelling mistake when you said this?
"There are about 2000 or more beer bars"
"Although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from"
There are thousands of bars or hundreds? Just curious as I have never been there but planning very soon.
Thank you
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]The Q and A below was taken from the Forum FAQ. You clearly did not read it and the word is receive and not the way you spelt it in your last two posts.
[B]Q-Do I have to be a Forum Member to access the Private Messaging system?[/b]
A-Yes. You must be logged in as a Regular or Senior Member to use the Private Message System.
[b]Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system. [/b][/QUOTE]
OK. But it does not say that under Membership Categories, it only says regular members can upload photos but not view them of send/recieve PM's.
Maybe Jackson needs to update that part of the website.
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Morning Delight in Pattaya
decided i wanted a nice healthy blowjob this morning so i rode the bike over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s. it’s open for monkey business every day at 10am. my favorite girl there is pim, a sweet 22 year old with a genuinely lovely smile. she’s a little on the chunky side but makes up for that deficiency with a happy smiling attitude as well as top notch aptitude for her job(s). pim recognized me right away with a big grin on her face. twenty minutes later, after lots of ball licking, deep throating, shaft sucking, head slurping, tongue probing and alltogether thorough genital mouthing, i stood up to watch her receive and swallow the whole load like a good little girl. pim loves her job and she’s great!
this is for mick: swallowing is a rare and much appreciated part of the overall bbbj cim service experience for dedicated fellatio fetishists like me. i never insist upon it out of deference for the girls, but am always happy when it does go down.
in a word, swallowing is erotic.
regards,
daddy
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[QUOTE=Zap2003]"There are about 2000 or more beer bars"
"Although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from"
There are thousands of bars or hundreds?[/QUOTE]
There probably are a thousand or two, but perhaps not many thousands. But as for the population of streetwalkers along Beach Road, to me it looks closer to 100, at best, than 300-400.
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Cambodia for seeker
[QUOTE=Love Seeker] I am considering spending a week in Siem Reap, Cambodia, and see the Angkor Wat. I am thinking of going July 1 – 8, then returning to Pattaya. I would like some suggestions as to hotels to stay in Siem Reap? Should I fly or take a bus? Suggestions from those who have been there would be most welcome.[/QUOTE]If you are in for the temples, go overland. Take the 8 AM bus from Pattaya to Mukdahan until Aranyaprathet. It has more leg room than the other buses going that route and the difference of 2 dollars or so wont kill you.
You can get a cambodian visa at US 26 total cost online and save a full passport page. google for cambodia and evisa.
When crossing into Cambodia a Poipet people will try to sell you anything in the line of bus seats to Siem Reap. 10 US - 15 US should be plenty. I did it for 6 with a little like.
I worthwhile alternative might be this. Go only to Sisophon (sway). Stay overnite, if you into the rough wild of Cambodia, have a look at the railroad track scene there. Very scenic.
Next morning take a motobike at to Bantey Chmar Temple (5 US entrance fee) and see another temple some 5 km before. The main temple is a gem and huge. Not second to the reliefs at Angkor. You come back in the early afternoon and can get to Siem Reap in time.
The road to Bantey Chmar is pretty good and 10 US return should do the trick. Food is avaible at the temple as are drinks/coffee (small village and clean food).
THe temple is a good choice if you like to see more of Cambodia as opposed to the tourist craze at Siem Reap.
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well - it's like this: to get from Grungthep to Cambodia (Siem Riep) is an all day thing - leave 7 or 8, get in about 6 or so by bus/train/taxi etc
Fly - 1 hour but costs a lot more (about 3X or 2X as much) - maybe 3000B versus $30 or so by ground trans.
Depends on how much your time is worth. I'll tell you that the trip overland back from PP to BKK took 15 hours and cost $31 10 days ago. Flying would have been $97 so was 13 hours (it would have taken 1 hour to get from near the central market to the airport at a cost of about $5 or so) worth $70? (includes the taxi to the airport)
Go read talesofasia.com "cambodia overland via Koh Kong" - my 29May (I think it was 29 May anyway) report is in there
Overland is not fun, but moderately scenic (even if time consuming) - unless you choose to cheap charlie and ride in the back of a pickup truck - just you and the DIRT - and there is PLENTY of RED DUST if the road is dry
Your call. IF you want to spend the time, "up to you".
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]
Fly - 1 hour but costs a lot more (about 3X or 2X as much) - maybe 3000B [/QUOTE]
Where are flights available to Siem Reap for 3000 baht? From where? Which airline? Thats a lot cheaper than it has been in the past.
Riding in the back of a pickup truck to Siem Reap would have to be about one of the most unpleasant things a person could possibly do in Southeast Asia. I guess being eaten alive by crocodiles would top it. Not by much tho.
I did that trip in a car once. Never again. At 3000 baht a flight, if thats right, you'd be nuts to not fly.
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I was thinking about PP actually - about 5000B round trip on AirAsia for July including taxes + $25 to get out of PP
The BUS was bad enough
PP-Koh Kong - 6.5 hours (1 hour to just get out of PP)
It's still better to fly to PP and bus north to SR than to go all overland
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2 Days in Pattaya - its been too long
its been well over a year since i ventured to los. i managed to squeeze a 2 day layover and decided to avoid the stress of bkk and head to pattaya during low season so focus completely on mongering. with only 2 days i had to choose between the beer bar culture (more work, cheaper, more gf but somewhat riskier) or instant gratification. as you can see i chose the latter. i chose secrets as my 2 day home and even chose their cab service to get me there straight away. i actually was thinking of getting one of those luxury vans including 2 girls for the ride down. it’s just hard to justify $200+ for a cab ride for 1.5 hours.
secrets hotel is small, the rooms are small, there is no elevator and they overcharge for the ride but on the upside, it is right over secrets club in the heart of walking street and the rooms are cheap.
my plan was to get settled and start my short stay off with a bang. i checked in around 9am and by 10am was in a room at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] getting one of their famous impersonal bbbj. i then headed back to the hotel for breakfast and a nap.
my goal for the afternoon was to experience hell club. i have visited its sister club in bkk numerous times and almost always crawl back to the hotel with weak knees. i was the first customer of the day and met jack (one of the owners) who told me the story of the creation of the “franchise”.. about the frenchman who’s girlfriend loved bi girls and he started sharing all this with his friends. the deal, for those who don’t know, is that you pick 2 girls for 90 minutes for 3600 baht. there is a line in the middle of the room where the girls line up. those on the left are usually prettier and provide 2 hole service (jacks words) while those girls on the right of the line provide 3 hole service.
i picked one from the left and one from the right. the girls came over and snuggled up while i drank my beer, went and grabbed a bag of goodies (lube, toys, condoms) and off we went to the room upstairs. they turned on some porn, took me into the shower to scrub me well, laughing, touching, kissing, giggling the whole time. i’m not going to go into the graphic detail but let me simply say that these girls are very good at what they do and the next 90 minutes was non stop fingers, mouths, bodies, toys, cock and pussies in any combination i wanted (including them with each other). 90 minutes later there was a knock on the door, i showered and with very weak knees walked downstairs.
after a decent nap i headed out to check out the clubs. next door to secrets is a kinky gogo (cant remember the name) --- the girls are nude and come by to sit with you. these girls waste no time getting their hands on you and making sure your hands are on them. i took 2 of them home my last day…. see the end of the report. i checked out the beach club where the girls dance on mirrored tables without and panties on, and a dozen --- all the same clubs. the new thing is that the gogos seem to all have a jacuzzi where the girls play and for a little tip you can too. they all try to have some theme but frankly they are all pretty much alike. ended up taking a sweet young thing home for the night for from club boesche 1500tb l/t. she was a great find and we had a blast.
the next day was pretty much blur with a session with the lt sweety then, a short term in the afternoon on soi 13 (thank god for the little blue pills). i checked out the beer bar on the pier that is trying to replicate the nana beer bar. just not enough girls to make it fun yet. i do wish them well. i ended the night by taking a couple girls from 69 club. they were all over me in the club, agreed to 1k each st (i was leaving that night) but when we got back to the hotel they started to renegotiate and wouldn’t do bbbj and was just not fun. oh well, that happens in our hobby. just got to get it over with and move on with a smile.
next – jakarta – 1st time
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]I was thinking about PP actually [/QUOTE]
Ah ok. Thought that sounded too good to be true. Some day, we'll eventually get normal fares to fly to Siem Reap.
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First time to Pattaya. I stayed at Secrets Hotel, largely because it is so close to Walking Street. I thought it might be like some short-time or love-hotel dive, but it’s a nice little hotel. Very well placed. The bar itself is ace too. Very good for the first time visitor. It’s not the best idea to BF one of the girls from the bar, then bring girls back to your room from other gogos on subsequent nights. Well I got a few nasty looks for it anyway.
I didn’t venture too far from walking street but here’s my thoughts: I liked Baby Dolls the best, because the girls in here were the most fun. Best looking girls I thought were in Angelwitch, but that place ripped me off for a drink so I wouldn’t go back. All the other main gogos were pretty good: Boesche, Livingdolls 1 and 2, Peppermint, Champions and many more. Happy was always too busy for my liking. Prices (always asked after 23:00): 2k seemed to be standard for LT; I didn’t bother to haggle. I got one of the lasses for free (paid the BF, mind) and another for 1k, perhaps because I am a little younger than most Patts visitors?
Much as I still love BKK, Pattaya had the better P4P seen, I thought: no difference I could tell in quality of looks but far cheaper; less LBs in Patts; and most importantly the girls were more fun. I don’t, however, know how people can stand it (no pun intended) for 2 weeks, 5 days was enough for me.
Cheers
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Live Sex Shows
On Walking Street you will find touts with cards trying to get you to follow them to a bar with live sex shows and lesbian shows. Also shows with Girls taking razor blade out of there pussies and shooting ping pong balls and darts out of pussies. The touts say 300 to 500 Baht with one “free drink”. I have never followed one of these touts to the bar because I do not like touts. I saw one of these shows in Pat Pong, Bangkok some years back. Can anyone give me the name and location of one of these bars in Pattaya. I am sure that if I go on my own the cover charge will be less, because the bar would not have to pay the tout.
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Sex Shows
I thought after seeing one of those sex shows once no one would want to return because the girls performing these shows are tough on the eyes and the shows are about as boring as watching some go-go girls dance. However, World Wide a GO-GO on Beach Road near Soi 7 has a sex and lesbian show as does the club at the end of the street that Angel Witch is on near Walking Street.
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[QUOTE=Love Seeker]On Walking Street you will find touts with cards trying to get you to follow them to a bar with live sex shows and lesbian shows. Also shows with Girls taking razor blade out of there pussies and shooting ping pong balls and darts out of pussies. The touts say 300 to 500 Baht with one “free drink”. I have never followed one of these touts to the bar because I do not like touts. I saw one of these shows in Pat Pong, Bangkok some years back. Can anyone give me the name and location of one of these bars in Pattaya. I am sure that if I go on my own the cover charge will be less, because the bar would not have to pay the tout.[/QUOTE]
With bars closing and reopening regularly, I do not know the current names of bars with shows.
However in my experience, there was NEVER any cover charge for shows, (this being the exclusive reserve of the Patpong upstairs bars, Normal go-go bar prices should prevail
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Live sex shows
I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons. Yes, a "tout" did tell us of the 200 baht cover that included a drink. Tonight we are going to the other sex show bar up one of the side streets. There is always someone around who will try to get you to come in.
Last year I went to Angels for the show. It was great There was another show bar on walking street I enjoyed last year but they have downsized it. The show was still good. Tomorrow off to Phnom Penh.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]With bars closing and reopening regularly, I do not know the current names of bars with shows.
However in my experience, there was NEVER any cover charge for shows, (this being the exclusive reserve of the Patpong upstairs bars, Normal go-go bar prices should prevail[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GymWhite]I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons. [/QUOTE]
Those German girls sure learn pretty quick. ;-)
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Baby Dolls
[QUOTE=Run Mann]I thought after seeing one of those sex shows once no one would want to return because the girls performing these shows are tough on the eyes and the shows are about as boring as watching some go-go girls dance. However, World Wide a GO-GO on Beach Road near Soi 7 has a sex and lesbian show as does the club at the end of the street that Angel Witch is on near Walking Street.[/QUOTE]
That would be Baby dolls(petting zoo!). Bath and stage lezy show. Audience touching allowed.
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Action at Thepprasit road, soi 8, Dao karaoke
Thepprasit road, soi 8, Dao karaoke
Here is a report about a good experience on March, 15, this year, from an area in Pattaya, which is to my knowledge, not so much frequented by farangs.
Around midnight I went with a male Thai friend to this place. I told him I wanted to fuck a lady, age 19 or 20 years young. When he parked the motorbike I saw we had come to the right place. Some young fresh-looking ladies were loooking at us.
We went inside the establishment. We were the only customers at that time. My friend had been there before. We ordered Coke and said, no we do not want to sing a song. We only want to talk to the ladies and bomm-bomm. I saw a young one; slim, breasts of acceptable size, attractive ass and long hair. I made eye-contact with her and said hallo. She came to the sofa where we were sitting. She also wanted Coke. I started to talk to her. Together with other information about her I found out she had good age, no babies, no silicon, can bomm-bomm with farang dick, OK bomm-bomm slowly, not a tobacco-user, OK to shower together and permits me to kiss her breasts. We made a deal. She spoke absolutely no English and when my limited Thai was not enough I had my friend translating. I went to the counter and paid 740 baht. That was the short time-price. And short time was one hour in a room in an adjacent building. The karaoke kept 240 baht and mama-san gave 500 baht to the lady.
She and I walked one minute to a short-time-hotel. A lady-man-maid took us to a bed-room that had not been cleaned for some time. I locked the room from the inside. The shower was a hose and only cold water. Never mind that, I concentrated on taking off her clothes and I liked what I saw. For reasons of security I put my trousers on a nail on the wall in the bath-room. In the shower I cleaned every intimate part of her body and she did the same to me. That was a good start.
Back to the room and taking off the towel I started the treatment of her breasts with fingers, tongue and lips. I took a close look at her well-shaved pussy. I wanted to kiss, suck and bite the pussy-lips. But, I must protect myself. I had planned for this by bringing extra-condoms and a pair of scissors. I opened one condom and made a cut on the length of the condom. Voila, I have a rubber-sheet with size about 15 x 15 centimeter. I put the rubber-sheet on the pussy and start licking, kissing and sucking. With my thumbs and my forefingers I make the rubber-sheet stay over the pussy. It works fine. (Sometimes I tell the lady to help with two fingers put on the rubber-sheet above the clitoris.) I could tell by the expression on her face this was the first time a man had kissed her pussy like that.
We fucked in various positions.missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and doggy. It makes an old man very happy to see his dick going in-and-out a young and small pussy. I had to use plenty of will-power not to come when I squeezed her buttocks in doggy-style. The lady-man-maid knocked on the door and said that the hour was almost over. We changed back to cowgirl and I had a good orgasm. Another shower and we were out of the short-time-hotel.
Back at the karaoke we had more Coke. I think one bottle of Coke was 30 baht. Cuddling in the sofa and looking deep in the eyes. I learned that her working hours were from 6 PM to 6 AM. If I wanted to take her out of the karaoke to my hotel the price was 2 000 baht and then she could stay with me until 8 AM. My male friend and I left Thepprasit road, soi 8, around 2. 30 AM. At that time the neighbourhood was not that nice. Some drunk Thai men walking around or driving around on motor-bikes and making a lot of noice. Then I was glad to be in the company of a Thai man.
I did not go back to Thepprasit road. My regular Thai girlfriend come to me the following day and when I stay with her I have everything I need for my sexual appetite. This time, this presumebly good girl also gave me chlamydia, (yes, I fuck her without condom) but that is a report I intend to write another day.
Over all it was a good experience at Thepprasit road. I will go there again.
I do not know which time of the evening/night is the best to go there. My friend told me that the early evening is not good because then working Thai men sit there drinking, singing songs, get drunk and have the ladies entertaining them.
Tom Ling
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Petemcc goes to Hell
Well gentlemen, I made it to the Hell Club, a mere 3 hours after arriving in Pattaya.
I’m not going to give a blow-by-blow (excuse the pun) account of how I bust a nut 5 times, rather I will tell you why the Hell Club floated my boat.
I was greeted by Jack, what a top bloke. He gives advice on all sorts of stuff and so far has done a lot for me WRT info and organising a trip out with one of his imps, but enough of Jack-sorry mate.
We all know the HC formula, fine, and we all know that girls come (again no pun) and go, but I’ll tell you, the line-up that greeted me was mind boggling. There was no way I could pick one above another, well that is not strictly true. There isn’t one girl there who I wouldn’t take to a restaurant somewhere, or walk with hand-in-hand, in Pattaya, or elsewhere. They are not all the same, but each one is a serious babe.
How I picked Miss T, as I will call her, is beyond me. All the girls make eyes at you, that’s how they earn a crust, but one, Miss T stood out. It was like sexual chemistry drawing us together, so Miss T it was. Now, I had fully intended to pick a second girl myself, not let the girl choose, but to be honest, even with Miss T’s subliminal messages, picking one was a hard job, and they all looked so beautiful and cute, so I bottled out and let Miss T pick the second one, Miss J. She was a little thing, 20 years old, whereas Miss T was apparently 28! WTF? No way, anyway, to the loom we went.
It goes without saying that these girls have perfect bodies, that is if you like Thai girls, slim, proportioned, little tits, but not flat, they have tits, just little, and gorgeous arses. Last trip I spent some time with a bar girl whom I thought had the most gorgeous arse ever...wrong, Miss T must have made the template for arses.
Back to the plot. Now let’s be real here guys, effectively an orgasm is an orgasm, sometimes it is a real from the big toes one, sometimes just an ordinary moment of bliss. I am not going to pretend that these girls have magical powers, they don’t, but it’s how you get there that counts. Surrounded by mirrors, and with mirrors on the ceiling, you can lie back and watch as some LBFM sucks your cock, and the other sits on your face. Seeing my fat white body being engulfed by two little brown devils was in itself a huge turn on
I‘ve had plenty of 3somes before, but this experience sets a new benchmark. The girls interact so well. I have never really found the lesbian thing a turn-on, but when you have a girl straddling you, trying to f**k your brains out, and another with her minge in your face, and you manage to sneak a look past the soft brown flesh into the mirror to see them kissing...well, what can I say? But it’s not just that. It’s every opportunity. You turn your head for a minute and they are into each other. Jealousy reigns and they both get an extra seeing to.
We’ve all had starfish, I am sure. These girls were the exact opposite. I’ve screwed maybe 30 TGs in 2 trips, and I do my best to make them cum, and often it takes a bit of time. These girls I think came more than me. You know what the big difference is? These girls seem to genuinely like sex, pleasuring you, and doing a good job.
Guys, as I said at the start, an orgasm is an orgasm, but at the HC, the girls go not just that little bit further, but all the way to make sure it’s a fantastic experience. It is attitude that counts 100%. There’s plenty of drop dead gorgeous girls in Thailand, and many who will f**k you for money, but finding one, sorry two who will do it with such feeling is in my opinion rare. Sure, it’s all an act, isn’t most of life? But some acts are class ones, and the Hell Club is a class one, without a doubt. The management of the Club IMHO makes this place what it is. The girls are treated well, paid well, and subsequently they perform well.
Really, any monger who goes to Pattaya and doesn’t pay a visit to Hell is either just a tight bastard or gay, or maybe both, yeah, you can BF 2 bargirls and have them all night for a little over half the price, but then again you can rent a BMW, or a Skoda. They both do the same job, but it’s how they do it and the comfort of the ride.
Cheers.
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Airport to Pattaya
Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks!
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Taxi
Taxi is definitely easier. Most likely in the 800-1200 baht range depending on your negotiating skills and other factors.
Should take about 90 minutes.
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Show but no fuck in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=GymWhite]I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons. Yes, a "tout" did tell us of the 200 baht cover that included a drink. Tonight we are going to the other sex show bar up one of the side streets. There is always someone around who will try to get you to come in.
Last year I went to Angels for the show. It was great There was another show bar on walking street I enjoyed last year but they have downsized it. The show was still good. Tomorrow off to Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Hey dude,
Great post about this germans yuppies shows, but man, we are in Pattaya and mens come to this place to have all kindof sex because every where else they have those stupid shows with ''hot chicks but no sex'' stuff. I think you should post in some other country where sex is rare. No offense and have fuck in Pattaya.
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the 800B is pretty much "unavailable" unless you can find a driver just "going back" empty - While you can get TO BKK from Pattaya for 800+ tolls, getting from BKK to Pattaya for 800 likely won't happen. See if you can find anyone else going that way and share a cab for 600 or so each (4 years ago I spent 1300B for 2 guys from Don muang - while it's "closer" to Swampy, gas prices have skyrocketed.
As much as I don't like spending extra money, give the drivers a break - they have to make a living, too.
As to the "Airport trans fact sheet" link - a couple of days ago I sent off a bit of "added info" to the admin, but I haven't heard anything back or seen any changes yet. There are more buses to Pattaya/Jomtien than are listed in the fact sheet. The FIRST bus to Pattaya (Jomtien) leaves at 6:45 AM for 121B
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FreebieFan,
the arrivals on floor 2. If you go out, you will find a taxi counter. If i remember right, they normally ask 1500 Bath. If you move to the departure floor 4 you can catch a taxi who brings customer to the airport. Just ask them, they are normally interested too, to bring you to PTT, too. Last time i paid 1000Bath including the tool. Back to floor 2, if you go out of the hall there are some guys and ladies are offering a taxi. I told them that i will go to floor 4, because it is cheaper. They asked what i am willing to pay. I said 1000Bath. OK. I got it for
1000 Bath plus toll.
Regards,
Sam
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]the 800B is pretty much "unavailable" unless you can find a driver just "going back" empty - While you can get TO BKK from Pattaya for 800+ tolls, getting from BKK to Pattaya for 800 likely won't happen. See if you can find anyone else going that way and share a cab for 600 or so each (4 years ago I spent 1300B for 2 guys from Don muang - while it's "closer" to Swampy, gas prices have skyrocketed.
As much as I don't like spending extra money, give the drivers a break - they have to make a living, too.
As to the "Airport trans fact sheet" link - a couple of days ago I sent off a bit of "added info" to the admin, but I haven't heard anything back or seen any changes yet. There are more buses to Pattaya/Jomtien than are listed in the fact sheet. The FIRST bus to Pattaya (Jomtien) leaves at 6:45 AM for 121B[/QUOTE]The taxis don't run on gas, they use LPG and that price has been relatively stable compared to gas.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks![/QUOTE]
Try Mr T taxi who is based in Pattaya [email]mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com[/email] 081-2587716.
Have used twice with no problems should be around 1000bht
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[QUOTE=Speaker5]The taxis don't run on gas, they use LPG and that price has been relatively stable compared to gas.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure about that? I know the tuktuk's run on propane but I've seen lot's of taxi's filling up with gas.
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They are filling up with LPG. Not gasoline. Look at the pumps and do you see any other vehicles there but taxis. Maybe more other vehicles now but mostly taxis. Maybe your eyes are looking at the passengers. 5555555
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Lpg
[QUOTE=Gwailo]Are you sure about that? I know the tuktuk's run on propane but I've seen lot's of taxi's filling up with gas.[/QUOTE]I was a passenger once in one of the many green and yellow Toyota Corolla taxis and had to pull into the Taxi's base station for a fill up. I was surprised to see scores of other taxis all being filled up with LPG.
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[QUOTE=Siam150] Maybe your eyes are looking at the passengers. 5555555[/QUOTE]
Maybe so. Watching taxis fuel up isn't very exciting.
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BKK to Pattaya by Taxi
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks![/QUOTE]I paid 1200 Baht for a 90 minute taxi ride from the new BKK airport to my hotel on Soi 8 in Pattaya. Like you, I was in a rush and totally jet lagged after my trip from the USA. After passing bus after bus, I thought the taxi money was well spent.
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No need to pay much to these girls... I don't.
As they say, up to you what you want to pay them. Sometimes I have the girls buy me drinks and pay for other stuff. Seriously! 9 times out of 10 I get away without giving the girl so much as a bowl of noodles.
How do I do it? Simple. I just don't discuss the money issue, and when it's time for her to leave, I take her back to her place. I say goodbye, and take off on my motorbike.
I get free sex everyday in Pattaya. No need to waste good money if she doesn't ask for it.
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Taxi or bus
I order since 6 years a private taxi from Pattaya. The car is a mini van, always new, clean and very comfortable. The driver is loyal and faithful.
We communicate via sms, so that he knows my flight number and arrival time. I also use his taxi if I need a closed taxi in Pattaya – going to U-Tapao airport or somewhere else in Pattaya or the surrounding areas. The prize is a little bit more expensive than normal taxis or bus – I pay for Bkk – Patty 1.500 Bath, for Patty – U-Tapao 1000 Baht and for a trip from North Patty to Jomtien 150 Bath.
OK, it is more expensive, but for me it is important to have a loyal driver, a secure car and someone I can call at every time I need him. That is worth for me to pay the difference between normal prizes and that kind of comfort.
Enjoy the time, gentlemen
Lemon Tree
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Downtown Pattaya Rental
I am ging to be in Pattaya mid November 08 till mid April 09 and need a 1 bedroom or large Studio in the area, preferably of Soi Dianna. If it is a walkup first floor would be OK but anything higher and I would need an elevator. Clean and serviced, not noisy. I would pay 9000 b month. Is that reasonable for a 5 month contract? I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions! Many Thanks!
Cactus J
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Cactus J,
I'm sure the price and location is very possible, but Soi Diana location in my personal opinion isn't consider to be quiet! Maybe others here in Pattaya know better.
LBM
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how much comfort do you require? There actually isn't much with ground floor access on Diana. Perhaps Sawasdee Pattaya for your price range (maybe not - it all depends on what "deal" they would make), but I don't remember if they had easy access from the street level to the lobby. They DO have a lift
Otherwise I know of a couple of "other" places not on Diana but with BASIC facilities (and I DO MEAN basic) A/C rooms on Soi10 off 2nd road
I'm basing a lot of this on you riding a chair.which might be incorrect
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Thanks Gents! I am just an old fart with golf clubs to carry each day and that is the reason for elevator need above 1st floor. I have stayed at the Swasadee Pattaya and it was very noisy with crazy drunk Russians. Last year I stayed at Charlie Place which was good but best rate I got was 800b.
I would certainly consider a decient place at Soi 10 and 2nd Road, just reasonably close to Soi Dianna as that is where I plan to play most of my golf from. Your help is really appreciated!
Cactu J
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Return to Pattaya
After 2 years I am on my way back to Pattaya later this month. I have been several times and it is always a blast. Are there any members out there who would like to catch up for a beer or share a particularly hot or enthusiastic girl with me via PM. You will need to have some respect for the girls and be a decent guy. I am not a fan of people who treat the girls like shit.
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[QUOTE=Wayne Carey] You will need to have some respect for the girls and be a decent guy. I am not a fan of people who treat the girls like shit.[/QUOTE]
You are setting the bar quite high for Pattaya. It's will be hard to find guys who don't treat the girls like shit. The saddest thing is they are proud of it and consider it to be the sign of a veteran monger. You always have to keep in mind that Pattaya is the capital of White Trashistan.
Evil
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Excellent private driver
[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]I order since 6 years a private taxi from Pattaya. The car is a mini van, always new, clean and very comfortable. The driver is loyal and faithful. We communicate via sms, so that he knows my flight number and arrival time. I also use his taxi if I need a closed taxi in Pattaya – going to U-Tapao airport or somewhere else in Pattaya or the surrounding areas. The prize is a little bit more expensive than normal taxis or bus – I pay for BKK – Patty 1. 500 Bath, for Patty – U-Tapao 1000 Baht and for a trip from North Patty to Jomtien 150 Bath.
OK, it is more expensive, but for me it is important to have a loyal driver, a secure car and someone I can call at every time I need him. That is worth for me to pay the difference between normal prizes and that kind of comfort.
Enjoy the time, gentlemen
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]For the past 4 years I have used Mr. Song. I got him trough a travelagent the first time.
Mr. Song is not only very reliable and pleasent; he is also one of the few Thai drivers who anticipates in trafic! He drives a very recent model Toyata Camry, always clean. Most important; I feel safe with him at the wheel; no aggresive driving. Suvarnabhumi-Pattaya last March was 1. 300 Baht (tolway included).
Mr. Song
Phone: +66 (0) 84 00 87 454
E-mail: [email]ultramanathum01@hotmail.com[/email]
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]You always have to keep in mind that Pattaya is the capital of White Trashistan.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Fortunately, it's also the capital of Thai Poontangistan
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Pattaya Mini-Break
Returned last week from my second of three annual visits to Pattaya from the depths of Isaan. On this occasion my visit was limited to just two and half days.
Nevertheless I managed to enjoy the sexual pleasures of no less than 4 different girls.
As many of those who live permanently in Pattaya will know as well as people like me who spent many years in Pattaya in days of yore the P4P scene is not limited to just downtown Pattaya, and freelancers are available elsewhere other than Walking Street and Beach Road.
Whilst the numbers of girls available in these alternative locations are just a fraction of the "wall to wall" girls that line Beach Road and the quality is generally poor/bad, there are occasionally some acceptable/good girls available, and I was fortunate to find 4 such girls.
My criteria are small girls, not fat, nice happy faces, good bodies and hopefully nice small tits. My requirements are generally smoke and boom boom, which all 4 girls were happy to provide.
Girl No 1 provided all that was requested and enquired as to whether all was satisfactory, which it certainly was. The 2nd girl on day 1, after having smoked me for some 15 minutes, perhaps deciding that I was not going to cause her some serious problems invited me to have anal sex with her. With the assistance of some KY, which I always carry for just such occasions, I slowly and carefully penetrated her arse, being met with much noise from her which she constantly assured me were moans of pleasure rather than pain. After some 5 minutes I orgasmed and withdrew, only to be told that this had been her first but not her last experience of anal sex. WOW - an Anal Virgin. She then suddenly realised that she had not fully met her contractual obligations, and insisted I still had to boom boom her pussy. She spent the next 20+ minutes bringing me back to erection after which I mounted her in missionary to complete my 3rd orgasm of the day.
But the "piece de resistance" was yet to come. On day 2, I took a happy looking small mid 20's girl who seemed to meet all my other criteria, and after showering together, we went to the bed. There she surprised me by thoroughly enjoying herself shooting milk from her tits all over me. I was not only stunned but delighted - such small tits containing milk! I very soon took up the task of milking her myself, which started to turn her on, and when I started to suck on her tits and finger her quickly moistening pussy, she became highly aroused. When I finally used my tongue on her pussy and continued to milk her with my hands, she had 2 shuddering orgasms in quick succession.. Almost immediately she threw me off her, turned me over and mounted me whilst I continued to milk her with both hands and mouth. Very soon 2 further orgasms emanated, 1 from her and the other from me.
Being completely drained, we spent the next half hour lying together, kissing and cuddling whilst I intermittently milked her more with both hands and mouth. More boom boom was out of the question. What a fantastic girl.
I spent most of day 3 searching for her, without success, and finally resorted late in the day to my 4th and final girl who did not disappoint. Anal was not available, but she enjoyed me fingering her arse, and kindly reciprocated with her short fingers whilst smoking me
What a fabulous mini-break. 4 girls, a variety of sex and only costing 1200bt in total.
And upon arriving back home I realised my timing had been perfect. The wife had just commenced her period giving me some 4/5 days to regenerate a new head of steam!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]
What a fabulous mini-break. 4 girls, a variety of sex and only costing 1200bt in total. [/QUOTE]
But you really should have paid the other three girls something for their efforts.
Evil
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Indian Man Drugged And Robbed, In Pattaya, After Having Sex With Prostitute
Apologies if this is the wrong thread to post this query.
Editors, please move it to whereever it is appropriate. Thank you.
I am a south-indian planning a three day trip to Pattaya.
Came accross quite a few articles indicating the dislike that Thai women may have for Indians.
This one is a really worrying news.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000003109[/url]
Requesting senior folks who would have done short trips 'alone' to Pattaya to give suggestions, dos and donts.
Is a budget of 800USD(for threedays in Bangkok)+Airfare from Chennai reasonable for this trip in August? Given my age, I would not be able to go more than two pops a day.
Is Escots a better option?
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[QUOTE=Owching]For the past 4 years I have used Mr. Song. I got him trough a travelagent the first time.
Mr. Song is not only very reliable and pleasent; he is also one of the few Thai drivers who anticipates in trafic! He drives a very recent model Toyata Camry, always clean. Most important; I feel safe with him at the wheel; no aggresive driving. Suvarnabhumi-Pattaya last March was 1. 300 Baht (tolway included).
Mr. Song
Phone: +66 (0) 84 00 87 454
E-mail: [email]ultramanathum01@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]If you have confidence in a lady driver I can recommend Ms Noi. I used her services already 6 times. Safe driver, new airco car and reliable.
I just send her an email with flight details and time of arrival and she will be there. Rate 1200 bath toll included.
Ms Noi
[url]www.ladytaxidriver.com[/url]
email: [email]lady_driver_taxi@hotmail.com[/email]
Phone: + 66 (0)86 336 866
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Taxi Ride
Thanks guys for the info on Taxi selections this will be a big help with my up coming trip in Aug to LOS.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]But you really should have paid the other three girls something for their efforts.
Evil[/QUOTE]Thanks Evil. I suspected as such. I guess I will just do my own thing. In a way so many a-holes around is a blessing in disguise. In my experience I have been rewarded massively by young hot girls when I have shown them a bit of respect.
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[QUOTE=Var Blr]Apologies if this is the wrong thread to post this query.
Editors, please move it to whereever it is appropriate. Thank you.I am a south-indian planning a three day trip to Pattaya.
Came accross quite a few articles indicating the dislike that Thai women may have for Indians.
This one is a really worrying news.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000003109[/url]
Requesting senior folks who would have done short trips 'alone' to Pattaya to give suggestions, dos and donts.
Is a budget of 800USD(for threedays in Bangkok)+Airfare from Chennai reasonable for this trip in August? Given my age, I would not be able to go more than two pops a day.
Is Escots a better option?[/QUOTE]
Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htm[/url]
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Great report Bumholes1, but I couldn't do that milk thing. From when I was a child, I've hated the taste, smell and even the look of milk. I would rather have a girl shit on me as happened on one occasion while fucking her ass, than have a girl start lactating on me. It is a definate deal breaker for me.
BB
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I pass on the milking AND the shitting, thank you very much :)
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Indian people
Don't pick up a girl from the street or the beach road if you scare about your health and your life. Go into a soapie. There you will find a good collection of beautiful girls. That places are safe and clean and the girls are too. I is a little bit more expensive, but worth. A budget of 800 $ should allow you that pleasure.
Enjoy your time
Lemon Tree
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I'm not a big fan of milk, but I definitely prefer it to someone's shit.
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Tipping suggestions please!
Thanks Run and Lemon Tree.
Yes as a first timer - I am planning to go for incalls only. No pick-up.
Planning to stay at LK Metropole.
Visit(s) to Hellclub is definitely on my list.
Have been "RTFF-ing" about Soapie massage parlors - not finsihed yet.
Given the bad-precedence we have from fellow Indian mongers, I do not want to be one more in the list with my clumsyness-interoreted-as-stingyness.
Can senior folks kindly suggest dos and don'ts as far as tipping the girl goes.
Is 500TBH tip considered ok for ST (equiavelent INR is accepted happily in south-india), be it in Hell Club or in Soapie parlors?
Thanks Again!
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Milky tits really turn me on, but you can keep your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and shit
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
What is really sad here is that somehow the photographer for the news rags always shows up before the medical personnel. It almost looks like they arranged the bag of chips and bottle of water on that bed side chair.
Your best protection from any drugging is to NEVER drink anything that could be tampered with, finish your beer at a bar or take it into the bathroom with you for example.
RG.
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[QUOTE=Var Blr]Is 500TBH tip considered ok for ST (equiavelent INR is accepted happily in south-india), be it in Hell Club or in Soapie parlors?[/QUOTE]
Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Probably not as they insist upon safe sex. I went there twice, one for a 3some and once for a 4some. How the fuck you can say it is overpriced is beyond me.
I've had numerous BGs and gogos, and none match up to the enthusiasm and skill of girls at the Hell Club. Of the 3600, the girls get 1000 each. Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex. Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed. For the work those girls put in on their customers, they must be the best deal in the whole of Thailand. The rest of the money goes to a beautifully clean, comfortable environment, with mirrors everywhere, and a management team that gives a fuck, and where aftercare is as important as the customer's sexual experience.
To Var Blr , 3600 for the Hell Club. I gave the girls the remainder of the money between them, that's 200 each as a tip. The girls are quite well paid there, but they work hard for their money, and they really appreciate anything you give them, maybe a LD afterwards as well.
I would urge you to go to Hell and speak with the management. You'll see some of the girls outside, the rest linger around. 500 st are ok in Pattaya, though if you are somewhere like Soi 6, you will pay 300 for the room as well, and usually, as fast as you unload, the game is over, so that's 800 bhat for anywhere between 5 minutes and 30 minutes of sex in a stinking hot room, as the aircons are turned off after each visit.
Do yourself a favour, put aside 4K, which including tips will get you the most memorable 90 minutes of you life, ever. But beware, after sex with Hell Club girls, the rest is pretty boring.
Petemcc
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Agree in some ways.
[QUOTE=Petemcc]Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex. Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed.
To Var Blr , 3600 for the Hell Club. I gave the girls the remainder of the money between them, that's 200 each as a tip.
500 st are ok in Pattaya, though if you are somewhere like Soi 6, you will pay 300 for the room as well, and usually, as fast as you unload, the game is over, so that's 800 bhat for anywhere between 5 minutes and 30 minutes of sex in a stinking hot room....
[/QUOTE]I was in Eden in Bangkok. It's the same 'Konzept'. I agree, when you choose good Girls, it's sooo hot.
About Beach Road for 500B.. You can find very nice Girls gfs and they stay at least 1 Hour, if you are nice to them and if the 'chemistry' is o. K.
They will come in your really nice Room if you have the Hotel near there.
So, it's not hardcore like HellClub or Eden, but you can have great Sex too.
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Starfish pretty much guaranteed???
[QUOTE=Petemcc]Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed. [/QUOTE]
Don't let reality interfere with the story ;)
Most of us experience a starfish girl rarely :)
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Starfish?
Thanks Pete for the info on tips and infact reading your blow-by-blow account of Hell Club was like being there. Excellent report.
By the way, whats a starfish: is this term used to refer to a lady with too many birth marks? or some other unpleasant stuff down there?
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Don't let reality interfere with the story ;)
Most of us experience a starfish girl rarely :)[/QUOTE]
From my own experience about 75% of the girls I have had from GO GO are starfish but the other 25% I had were far from it. For bar girls it is probably about 5% are starfish.
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100% of Hell Club girls I have been with have gone far and beyond the call of duty.
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Speak Thai
Bored working on my Thai. Thought I would post a couple of simple words for those interested. Have a previous post from last year if interested in a longer list. If you can not find send me a PM and will forward when I get a chance.
Picked out some of the simpler words to learn. By the way no trip is complete unless you visit Hell Club, Lolitta's, Angel Witch.
When you speak Thai if you're a man, you should end the sentence with the word khrab and kha for woman. You should say it after sawatdee (Greeting / Hello, Hi) and kharb koon (Thank you). Sometimes we use khrab and kha for "yes".
Thai people will also break the word up for example "smile". We will say it as "sa-mile", "sport" will become "sa-port", "summer" will become "sum-mer" and in this case Thai people will make the last part louder
"dai" for yes or "mai dai" for no.
Can you help me please? (chuay dai mai)
Can you speak English? (poot pa sa ang grit dai mai)
A little. (nit noi)
Do you understand? (khao jai mai)
I don't understand. (mai khao jai) If you understand just say "kao jai".
Say again please. (poot eek krang)
Hello/Goodbye (sawat-dee) Goodbye (la-gon)
See you again (lao jer gun) good luck (chok dee)
How are you? (sabai dee mai)
I am fine. (sabai dee)
What is your name? (khun chue arai)
Nice to know you too (chen gun)
"mai ben rai" means "it's ok". For example when someone tries to give you something but you don't want it or someone says thanks to you, you say mai ben rai.
"khor thot" means "sorry". You will say it when you want to interrupt someone, when you want to pass someone or when you do something wrong.
"sia jai" means "sorry" too. But in this case it means different thing. Like if someone died or got hurt, you say "phom/di-chan sia jai" which means "I am sorry".
I don't believe you (mai chue)
How much is this? (ra ka thao rai)
Can you help me? (chuay dai mai)
Ice. (nam-khang) Water. (nam-blao) Singha Beer. (beer sing)
I love you. (pom ruk koon)
I miss you. (pom kit teung koon)
I am single. (pom sot)
You are very beautiful. (koon suay mak)
Can I kiss you? (joop dai mai)
Have a nice dream. (fun dee na)
You are my girlfriend. (koon ben fan pom)
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[QUOTE=Petemcc] Of the 3600, the girls get 1000 each. Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex. [/QUOTE]
Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what. You keep mentioning 3600 but I'm not clear on whether that is for a single girl or a twosome or threesome or what, or whether it's for on-the-premises or takeout including barfine, etc.
I agree that it's fine to pay more for something you think is better than what's on offer elsewhere. Some guys are content with what some of us are not content with, and so they think it's a waste of money to pay more. To each his own, I say. We all have our own distinct tastes.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.[/QUOTE]
Looks matter a lot to some of us, and I would have to say I'm very skeptical I could manage to realistically find one that matches my standards for 500 baht. I could be wrong. But in any case, I challenge you to post a photo of what one of these 500 baht girls looks like, and we'll see. If the girl is cute enough, I'll stand corrected.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what. You keep mentioning 3600 but I'm not clear on whether that is for a single girl or a twosome or threesome or what, or whether it's for on-the-premises or takeout including barfine, etc. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.thehellclub.com/index.php[/url]
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Hell Club performance
[QUOTE=Petemcc]100% of Hell Club girls I have been with have gone far and beyond the call of duty.[/QUOTE]
I agree, in my limited experience at Hell Club. Quality performance. I had to ask them to stop having sex with me as I just couldn't do anymore (and I'm not THAT old yet)
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[QUOTE=Run Mann][url]http://www.thehellclub.com/index.php[/url][/QUOTE]
OK so I'm looking at it, and it seems to say that you take TWO girls for that 3600, but no option to have only one girl for less? .... this from their site:
* Your choice of 2 or more beautiful hostesses.
* 90 minutes of pampering, and you're the director and the star of everything that happens.
* All enjoyed in our beautifully appointed surroundings.
* The fantasies of a lifetime fulfilled in an hour and a half.
* All this for an all inclusive price of a mere 3600 Thai Baht. (additional Angels are 1800 Thai Baht each)
Your enjoyment of our staff's ability to please is guaranteed.
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hate to tell you this retired, but the tone makes a BIG difference in some of those expressions. For instance - "fun dee" if pronounced as it is written in pa-sa angrit (English) would be "good teeth". To make it "pleasant dreams" you would need to say "fun" with a rising tone. that's the problem with transliterations - they don't capture TONE
mai (rising tone) - "isn't that so?"
mai (high tone) - "wood"
mai (neutral tone) - "silk"
mai (falling tone) - "no"
mai (low tone) - "new"
(there are more meanings to some of the tones as well depending on context - just as with English "two, to, too" - all pronounced the same with nowhere the same meaning). Most of the time khon Thai will stop, think about what you said, chuckle and then answer the question.
Personal pronouns I, me and YOU are RARELY used (they are "understood in the conversation)
:)
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[QUOTE=Var Blr]By the way, whats a starfish: is this term used to refer to a lady with too many birth marks? or some other unpleasant stuff down there?[/QUOTE]
Starfish refers to any lady who just lays there doing nothing while you do all the work. Like the starfish you find on the beaches...
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Probably not as they insist upon safe sex.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been, but I used to go to Eden back in the day (I often got bb, but they're strict nowadays). Actually I quite liked the place, but as I've been in country longer the girls seem less attractive than what I pick up out of the freelancer pool. Is the lineup better in Pattaya?
3,600 seemed high when I first started coming to Thailand a few years ago, and it is still just a bit expensive for Pattaya, but the same price in Bangkok has slowly but surely become a relative bargain.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Looks matter a lot to some of us, and I would have to say I'm very skeptical I could manage to realistically find one that matches my standards for 500 baht. I could be wrong. But in any case, I challenge you to post a photo of what one of these 500 baht girls looks like, and we'll see. If the girl is cute enough, I'll stand corrected.[/QUOTE]
Oh I never take photos. Seems a waste of time. But while your assumptions are generally true, the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]
.......the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more. There are some wonderful freelancers out there, not greedy and prepared to give you a most rewarding service for a reasonable price. Just look at my report of a couple of days ago -300bt a head - no bars, bosses and other overheads to pay for to pay for; the girls named their price and I can honestly say that both the anal girl and milky tit girl really enjoyed their time with me, and showed their appreciation with their warmth, cuddles and kisses.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what. [/QUOTE]
There is no one-lady option for the inhouse sessions at the Hell Club. It is 3,600 baht for 90 minutes with two ladies, as many pops as you can manage. That's an all-in fee, nothing else is required, no lady drinks, rooms fees, etc., but many punters choose to tip the girls 200 baht each. That's entirely up to you.
You can take a single lady overnight (10 pm to 6 am at the earliest, most stay later that that) for an all-in fee of 3,000 baht. Again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. Guaranteed.
When the Hell Club opened at the beginning of 2007, the menu included a one-lady option, but it was removed after only a few weeks. The vast majority of customers were only interested in multiple-lady inhouse sessions. The multiple-lady sessions are the main attraction of the Hell Club. If you want short time with a single lady, there are dozens of options in Pattaya. But for a multiple-lady session of the quality you receive at Hell, it's unique.
Of course, of anyone would like to suggest an establishment which you feel is equal to the Hell Club in terms of multiple-lady sessions, I'm happy to do a point-by-point comparison.
There are many reports on the Hell Club, including pictures of the girls, on ISG. Just do a quick search for "Hell Club."
Evil
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Oh I never take photos. Seems a waste of time. But while your assumptions are generally true, the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.[/QUOTE]
I can understand that -- and makes me think of one thing that I should have mentioned, that didn't occur to me before -- one other major qualification that I (and probably lots of others too) would have -- which is that I would only ever be visiting for a few days at a time. So for me, cutting to the chase on any given evening, knowing time is precious, is a top priority. I can't spend a likely fruitless 45 minutes or more wandering down a beach road or amongst the hundreds of beer bars when I know there's much less chance I'll find what I'm after there, and much more likely I'll spot it in one of the go-gos, discos, etc. If I lived there, or was there for weeks, then yeah ok, I would be checking out those FL scenes. The way it would play out is that after spending a good amount of money to finally get to Pattaya, then heading out for the evening, if I go to spots like those and hunt for awhile, not finding anything that seems special in all that time (which is probable), by then it's late in the evening and I know that the pickings out in the higher end spots are much thinner by now. Much higher chance of having a disappointing night out, and even heading home alone rather than 'settle' on something that doesn't match expectations. Maybe that's extreme, but it's the thought that's always there in the back of the head as one goes out on the prowl.
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[quote=evil penivel]again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. guaranteed.
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hm. sounds ok. i wish their website gave us a peek at the selection of girls, the way most of the sites for gogos and massage places do.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel].....You can take a single lady overnight (10 pm to 6 am at the earliest, most stay later that that) for an all-in fee of 3,000 baht. Again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. Guaranteed.....[/QUOTE]Is this possible in the eden club Bangkok?
Due to the higher prices of Bangkok p4p it would be a good bargain for guaranteed performance!
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[quote=wendella]hm. sounds ok. i wish their website gave us a peek at the selection of girls, the way most of the sites for gogos and massage places do.[/quote]
trust me, when you get there it won't matter a flying fuck what pictures you ever saw posted, the sexual chemistry will lead you to the first girl, and the rest will follow, your choice or hers. you will not be disappointed. there's tall, small, soft, hard, so sexy you will blow in 10 seconds, and so sensual that you will try to last forever. of course it's about attraction, but seriously, trust me, when these girls start kissing you and working on you, your only thoughts on choice will be that you made the best one.
girls come and go. why get your hopes up to shag one girl? i can tell you that there is a girl there, miss m, does anal, maybe a 6/10 in looks, but she is so soft and sweet that she will make you think sex can get no better.
these girls are good, fucking good, so don't even try to pick them based upon pre-conceived notions.
basically, just go there and do it!
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Weather in Pattaya in July
This is perhabs off topic but I'm planning my vacation now and I really like to go to experience the scene in Pattay. However I also want to relax and get some sun. Can anyone tell me if it's constant rain this time (July) in Pattaya or just the occasional rain storm? Do you get a nice sunny weather to play some golf in between?
Milken
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Speak Thai
[QUOTE=Dinghy]hate to tell you this retired, but the tone makes a BIG difference in some of those expressions. For instance - "fun dee" if pronounced as it is written in pa-sa angrit (English) would be "good teeth". To make it "pleasant dreams" you would need to say "fun" with a rising tone. that's the problem with transliterations - they don't capture TONE
mai (rising tone) - "isn't that so?"
mai (high tone) - "wood"
mai (neutral tone) - "silk"
mai (falling tone) - "no"
mai (low tone) - "new"
(there are more meanings to some of the tones as well depending on context - just as with English "two, to, too" - all pronounced the same with nowhere the same meaning). Most of the time khon Thai will stop, think about what you said, chuckle and then answer the question.
Personal pronouns I, me and YOU are RARELY used (they are "understood in the conversation)
:)[/QUOTE]
You are entriely correct. A very good site to go to to hear the different tonal sounds is [url]http://www.learningthai.com/speak_thai.html[/url]. Good place for beginner to start basic skills. The main reason I have suggested learning a few of words of Thai, in this and previous postings, is for a starting point to at least have something to do. I am still a beginner and do not know if I will ever get the language. Plan on spending 3 months in Pattaya end of year (my 5th trip). I have seen more guys just sitting with a lady with blank looks on their faces. The one thing I personally have found at my age (and 4 marriages) is show a little interest in the lady and she will warm up. Women like nothing more than being the center of attention no matter what the country. It is all about them in their eyes. This is why when you read a lot of the tales the members talk about after the deed the girl jumped up and leave. So even if you are not perfect it can be good for a few laughs. Just my opinion.
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Bar fine Lollita's
Since there seems to be a lot of posts about getting a single girl from Hell Club thought I would contribute this info. During my last visit I bar fined a girl from Lollita's. Just passing on the cost. Bar fine 1800B and girl 3000B LT. A lot of money I know but just in the mood that night.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]I can understand that -- and makes me think of one thing that I should have mentioned, that didn't occur to me before -- one other major qualification that I (and probably lots of others too) would have -- which is that I would only ever be visiting for a few days at a time. So for me, cutting to the chase on any given evening, knowing time is precious, is a top priority. I can't spend a likely fruitless 45 minutes or more wandering down a beach road or amongst the hundreds of beer bars when I know there's much less chance I'll find what I'm after there, and much more likely I'll spot it in one of the go-gos, discos, etc. If I lived there, or was there for weeks, then yeah ok, I would be checking out those FL scenes. The way it would play out is that after spending a good amount of money to finally get to Pattaya, then heading out for the evening, if I go to spots like those and hunt for awhile, not finding anything that seems special in all that time (which is probable), by then it's late in the evening and I know that the pickings out in the higher end spots are much thinner by now. Much higher chance of having a disappointing night out, and even heading home alone rather than 'settle' on something that doesn't match expectations. Maybe that's extreme, but it's the thought that's always there in the back of the head as one goes out on the prowl.[/QUOTE]
I've struggled in Bangkok late at night sometimes to find a girl to my taste, but it's soooo easy to get around the central fleshpots of Patts, and IME there are always far more girls than punters, and always plenty of late-nite options for us customers :).
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Thanks for the useful info about hell club will try it out and see how it goes.
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Weather
Milken,
If my memory serves me this month ( July ), it has mostly rained at night heavy downpour with some lighting and then it stops. This I think has happened 3 times so far this month. Today, Thursday it rained in the morning around 6:45am for about a half hour and then stopped. It is overcasted not raining during the day.
Hope that helps for me it is somewhat of a relief since it has been hot the last few months.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]I've struggled in Bangkok late at night sometimes to find a girl to my taste, but it's soooo easy to get around the central fleshpots of Patts, and IME there are always far more girls than punters, and always plenty of late-nite options for us customers :).[/QUOTE]
Maybe you're right. My last time in Pattaya a few yrs back, I have to admit I ended up alone for the night. It's possible I just didn't know the right spots to hit.
[QUOTE=Petemcc]
Girls come and go. Why get your hopes up to shag one girl? [/QUOTE]
No, it's not that. I'm not trying to find one girl to get my hopes up over, just trying to get a general sense of how their girls look. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're right about their talents, it's just that I'm curious to get a glimpse first.
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[QUOTE=Epicurien2]Is this possible in the eden club Bangkok?
Due to the higher prices of Bangkok p4p it would be a good bargain for guaranteed performance![/QUOTE]
Yes, overnight takeaway has always been an option at Eden in BKK. The same hours apply (10 p.m. to at least 6 a.m.). The cost is a flat 3,000 baht, with as many pops as you can manage. If you want them to, most ladies are happy to stay later than 6.00 a.m., but that depends on how many hours they have been able to sleep, how comfortable your hotel room is and whether they have anything to do that morning. Remember, you can sleep the rest of the day, but she has to be back at work by 1.00 p.m.
Considering bar fines are 600 baht and even ordinary gogo girls are asking a minimum of 2,000 baht for one-pop S/T, an Eden takeaway is looking more and more like a bargain. You can always play free-lancer roulette in Nana Car Park, on the street or in an after-hours pick-up joint, but that involves staying out until the wee hours of the morning. Between 1.00 a.m. and 2.00 a.m., I rather be f*cking than than f*cking around.
Here's some breaking news. On the official Eden forum, Marc (edenpapa) was soliciting opinions about offering one-lady inhouse sessions at Eden. Nothing definite, he was just asking the regulars for their opinions and trying to determine if there was any demand for this option.
I'll keep everyone posted.
Evil
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Amused by guys paying...
I don't pay ANYTHING to the girls and I'm saving FUCK-LOADS of money! Fact is guys, 9 times out of 10 you can get away without paying! A LOT of these bargirls are TOTAL pushovers. It's VERY EASY to take advantage of them! If you pay, up to you. But you can save a LOT of money by scaming the girls. IN FACT, these bargirls are SO DAMN EASY to scam that I'm setting up shop permanently in Pattaya so I can lure girls from Bangkok and Pattaya and fuck them for FREE! Hundreds of them!
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Pattaya Mass Transit LOL "Baht Bus"
I have a question about the baht bus..
I was staying at the LK Metro two years ago and would walk to second road to catch the bus to walking street. At the top of the route past soi 2 heading north the driver pull over and basically give the impression that we have to get off!! WTF. I thought they just kept going around and around till you get off. Any answer to whats going on here?
So to get to walking street we had to basically walk to second road then cross it to mikes swap meet LOL and end up on beach road where we would go down to walking street. LOL B@$t@rd$
Also does the baht bus or any bus go up north to Heaven complex and or south to Jomtien beach?
Thanks …. This info should help out any newbie reading this forum LOL… Including me….
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Baht buses et al
[QUOTE=AliasDonkey]
Also does the baht bus or any bus go up north to Heaven complex and or south to Jomtien beach?
Thanks …. This info should help out any newbie reading this forum LOL… Including me….[/QUOTE]
From what I have observed there appears to be two seperate circuts the buses follow. One of which goes around pattaya and the other goes from pattaya to jomtien. To get to Jomtien you need to jump off or get to where they are park-up in front of some wrought iron fence and take another bus to Jomtien. Cost 20 bht.
Spent 3 days in pattaya recently. Only managed one session at the hell club since I was more interested in drinking than mongering. The lineup there did not seem as good as eden in bkk with only 4 girls on the anal side and like 12 two holers. Disappointing scene but the rooms are much better than eden.
I'm sure you all know the details but my one disappointment was that I forgot about trying to dp the anal girl with the other girl wearing a strap on. next time.
As per my previous post I decided to try cialis. 200 bht from a all night pharmacy and most likely a rip. I didn't detect any change in my performance or longevity so it most likely a harmless fake or a less likely possibility is that I am such a fucking stud that it would have no effect anyway.
Numerous girls available on the beach but I don't like picking up in front of the dozens of schoolkids who appeared to be searching for shellfish on their lunchbreaks.
Peaceout
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Baht bus to Naklua and Walking Street
The busses going around Second Road and Beach Road turn left into Soi 2 and then back to Beach Road.
Your bus was the one, who goes to Naklua. And when the driver knew that you wanted to go to Walking Street, he was right when he stopped at Soi 2.
I suppose, he understood where you want to go to. But he was not able to explain you where his route goes, because most of the drivers don’t speak foreign languages.
But it is not necessary to walk the whole way to Beach Road. Stop the next bus that passes the Soi 2 and he will bring you to Walking Street.
Regards
Lemon Tree
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Indian
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Look this is my opinion on Indians and the Thai girls who dislike them. I am from a surrounding country and look Indian. Girls often refuse me till I tell I am not Indian. This is because Indians are known in Thailand to be cheap, as somebody who will negotiate the hell out of them and to be rude. I have nothing against Indians ,but they need to stop being cheap and that is it. You will see girls will take care of you when you are not being cheap. Unfortunately the vast majority of Indian tourists happen to be lousy tippers and in plain words cheap. You have to change your attitudes for the girls to change theirs. This particular story is very unfortunate and no one shall have to go through this. I think thie hooker in this case just wanted to rob someone and its not because he is Indian. I was just talking about the general situation
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Blue Bar Pattaya
Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
[url]http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/[/url]
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Blue Balls Opps Blue Bar.
[QUOTE=Striker34]Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
[url]http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info i'll try to check this place out in sept if possible.
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I found an impressive amount of info about Pattaya at this site, most of it pretty accurate. I haven't had a chance to check out if it has good info on other cities yet...
[url]http://wikitravel.org/en/Pattaya[/url]
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Dianna Mellinimum Apartments
As I mentioned earlier I am planning 5 months in Pattaya this winter and am looking for a suitable 1 bedroom or Studio in Soi Dianna/Backow / Lk Metro area. Haven't had any luck but see Dianna Group has a couple of places on Bakow, anyone ever stayed there? Any reports and suggestions appreciated!
Cactus J
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[QUOTE=Cactus J]As I mentioned earlier I am planning 5 months in Pattaya this winter and am looking for a suitable 1 bedroom or Studio in Soi Dianna/Backow / Lk Metro area. Haven't had any luck but see Dianna Group has a couple of places on Bakow, anyone ever stayed there? Any reports and suggestions appreciated!
Thanks Gents! I am just an old fart with golf clubs to carry each day and that is the reason for elevator need above 1st floor. I have stayed at the Swasadee Pattaya and it was very noisy with crazy drunk Russians. Last year I stayed at Charlie Place which was good but best rate I got was 800b.
I would certainly consider a decient place at Soi 10 and 2nd Road, just reasonably close to Soi Dianna as that is where I plan to play most of my golf from. Your help is really appreciated!
I am ging to be in Pattaya mid November 08 till mid April 09 and need a 1 bedroom or large Studio in the area, preferably of Soi Dianna. If it is a walkup first floor would be OK but anything higher and I would need an elevator. Clean and serviced, not noisy. I would pay 9000 b month. Is that reasonable for a 5 month contract? I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions! Many Thanks!
Cactu J
Cactus J[/QUOTE]
I almost answered your last few post but I was too lazy and figured somebody else would give you some help, but since nobody did, I will.
First you are coming at the high season and looking for a short term rental, therefore anyplace you are able to find that has not been rented far in advance by you will be a dump. Second you can forget about a one bedroom for 9,000 a month, it is not going to happen. And since you’re are coming in the high season and looking for a short term rental prices at that time of the year increase anywhere from a minimum of 25% to 100%.
The location you mentioned does not have very many accommodations and most of them are not in very good condition and you will be paying a premium price due to its location within the city of Pattaya.
If I were you I would look in Jomtien, which is just a ten minute ride by Baht bus into Pattaya. There are 1,000’s of more condos for rent there and the possibility of finding something nice is much greater. A nice studio condo at that time of year will run you around 15,000 a month plus electric and water fees. You can find lower priced condos which will not be in such good shape.
Since you mentioned you are a golfer staying in Jomtien is no problem. Most, if not all of the bars and other establishments that offer golf outings will pick you up right at your condo if you desire. There are also quite a few bars in Jomtien that offer the same golf outings as the bar you listing in your post that are only a few minutes away from any condo in Jomtein.
The following is a web site that lists virtually every real estate agency in Pattaya and Jomtien and just look for their link “Condos for rent.” There you will find an endless supply of condos you can rent, the pictures of the condos and the prices they are asking for. The agencies all have email address and you can make arrangements for your rental before you leave home and they will have somebody meet you at the condo to check you into the condo the day you arrive. I hope this helps.
The link is below.
[url]http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/[/url]
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Thanks Bill,
Very helpful! I will persue your suggestion.
Cactus J
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No offence Pete but you could have just descibed any of 10,000 girls in Pattaya. Remember the 3 F's - Find her, fuck her and forget her. Eden / HC girls I'm sure are very nice (I've been to Eden Club a few times) but I think they're at the more experienced end of Thai hookers.
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The 3 F's
[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]No offence Pete but you could have just descibed any of 10,000 girls in Pattaya. Remember the 3 F's - Find her, fuck her and forget her. Eden / HC girls I'm sure are very nice (I've been to Eden Club a few times) but I think they're at the more experienced end of Thai hookers.[/QUOTE]
I guess we have all been sucked in at one time or another by the type that Pete describes, its just a question of how long and how much we get taken for before we catch on to the pretence. Well written story Pete, and good that you had the guts to write it all down....... hope it saves at least one guy from making the same mistake....... all hail to the 3 F's !
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The Silver Lining!
[QUOTE=Petemcc] (snip) In between I have told my wife I love Tang, etc, so she now wants a divorce. Excellent, my wife is leaving me, Tang is back being a *****, and I am where?[/QUOTE]
Off the hook and free to play in Thailand to your heart's content! Of course, all you'll have to do is write a big check to make this happen!
Just don't mess things up and get a Thai "girlfriend!"
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Chap,
It sounds like you've been through the wars, my sympathies.
I did something similar, but didn't fuck up a marriage or anything - had her on the phone to my parents, sent her a couple of thousand US etc etc.
[QUOTE=Petemcc]
The undying love went on, speak to mother on phone etc, I wait for you in Issan, you come and teach at school we get married, all that shit, and how she hated going with customers, how she cried each time[/QUOTE]
I would strongly urge you (and everyone else) to read Stephen Leather's free ebook 'Private Dancer' (it is also published in bound form, but I just printed out the pdf at work and popped it in a folder). It is an entertaining read, but, more importantly, it drilled into me the (almost) inevitability of outcomes like this one.
A quick google for "stephen leather private dancer free ebook" found me:
[url]http://www.conanstevens.com/temp/private-dancer.pdf[/url]
Whoever reads it, I'd be curious to know what you think...
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gee Pete - you ever heard that you can take the girl out of the bar but you CAN'T TAKE THE BAR OUT OF THE GIRL??
Worse yet - From HELL, of course ;)
READ Private Dancer - it may be FICTION, but it's TRUE fiction (just that you didn't get snuffed in the process)
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Pete
What were you thinking? Involvement with any P4P girl is a recipe for disaster. Your actions were just plain stupid.
If you want a Thai girlfriend, the only answer is: a decent girl from a decent family, not some Pattaya ho.
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Jesus, Pete. What on earth were you thinking??
There really are no adequate words to comment.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]gee Pete - you ever heard that you can take the girl out of the bar but you CAN'T TAKE THE BAR OUT OF THE GIRL??
Worse yet - From HELL, of course ;)
READ Private Dancer - it may be FICTION, but it's TRUE fiction (just that you didn't get snuffed in the process)[/QUOTE]Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather (Borders Books &15.95)
A great read concerning Bargirls and will get you thinking.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]Jesus, Pete. What on earth were you thinking??
There really are no adequate words to comment.[/QUOTE]
Come on ... He only spent 77000 baht and he had a wonderful time -- a 2 week holiday he will never forget! :D
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I can't believe people come here for advise. I have not been to Hell Club but I did check out Eden about six years ago and frankly the girls are not much better then what you find on the beach. Granted they do the lesbo thing, and that is fun but you can't walk three blocks in Pattaya without girls offering to go with you short time for 300 baht.
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Pete,
What on earth were you thinking? If a middle aged guy like you interacts with younger, good looking women on holiday, he has to keep his wits about him big time. In Pattaya, of all places, one has to keep his wits about him so much more and move things along very slowly.
The 'take the bar out of the girl' cliches that you read on here and other forums are only as relevant as the situations/relationships that the participants create. If you are looking for a partner, it's all about finding a sane girl. And you are at least as likely to find one working bar who has been left high and dry by her immature Thai hubby as you are likely to find one from an affluent background who also feels the need to look outside her culture for a partner. Any farang with long-time experience of Thailand will tell you about horror stories they have first/second/third hand experience of with with girls from all types of backgrounds from this place. You have to take your time, and not rush into things. That means giving any girl you feel you may have a future with time to prove herself or to self-destruct.
I have seen too many guys rush into relationships with younger Thai women from all sorts of backgrounds only for things to turn very ugly when things have progressed too far and too quickly to get out cheaply.
Slowly, slowly.
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Price
I am thinking about visiting this place for the first time next year around march/april and just how much you need to have a reasonably good time here for about seven days, including girls, food, lodging etc. Is there particular month best for mongering etc.
Thanks.
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Best way to carry money in Pattaya
Here is a newbie question. what's best way to carry Money in Pattaya.
Are ATM machines everywhere where I can withdraw as needed or travelers checks or caarying in foreign currency recommeded.
Pls comment.
Jay
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Thanks guys for all your comments, even the negative ones, but I deserved it!
I have deleted the post and pics because at the end of the day it's my fault, not hers.
Cheers
Pete
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Pete,
Lets just hope that she doesn't get up the duff and start trying to get DNA confirmation and then try to extract extra cash. V. dodgy situation. There but for the grace of god . . .
Expatcat
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Pete,
Count your lucky stars! You got off lucky! We all allow the little head to do too much of the leading sometimes that get us all in trouble from time to time. The only thing that really counts now is did you learn anything?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Petemcc] ... I have deleted the post and pics because at the end of the day it's my fault, not hers...[/QUOTE]
I think you ought to resurrect it, Pete. If you do, I’ll post it in the Reports of Distinction thread where it belongs. It should serve as a lesson to all unwary mongers who visit the Land of Smiles.
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Hell Club holiday
Pete,
Nothing to worry about. You had a ton of fun. There are those of us who do things we later determine that maybe we would have done differently. And everyone else who just won't admit it.
I remember the time I...
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[QUOTE=Blunderer][url]http://www.conanstevens.com/temp/private-dancer.pdf[/url] Whoever reads it, I'd be curious to know what you think...[/QUOTE]
Blunderer: thanks so much for that link. I downloaded the pdf this morning and once I started reading, I couldn't stop until I'd finished it. Brilliant stuff. Loved it. x
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*slaps Pete upside the head on my way out*
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Atm
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Here is a newbie question. what's best way to carry Money in Pattaya.
Are ATM machines everywhere where I can withdraw as needed or travelers checks or caarying in foreign currency recommeded.
Pls comment.
Jay[/QUOTE]
A truly newbie question, there are a zillion ATM machines, we are in 2008 !
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[QUOTE=Juan73]I am thinking about visiting this place for the first time next year around march/april and just how much you need to have a reasonably good time here for about seven days, including girls, food, lodging etc. Is there particular month best for mongering etc.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
It all depends on your style of living. eg 5* hotac, expensive restaurants etc
For the average monger I believe 5.000 to 7.000 Baht/day will cover everything for a week stay.
Hotac 1.500
Food 1.000
Girl 2.000
Drinks 1.000
Other 500
Total 6.000
For longer stays the average could be lower
Hope that it helps
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massages & shows
Can anyone recommend a good place for a massage. There are soooo many to choose from here it would be helpful to have the opinion of a more seasoned campaigner in this arena. I would like to try a soapie as well as a more traditional Thai massage..with possibly a happy ending included if possible.
Also, I am interested in seeing a sex show similar to those found in Patpong Bangkok. I went to the Queens Castle II but was hassled soooo much that I really could not appreciated nor watch/enjoy the actual show. Is there anywhere in Pattaya where I could see this type of show while being minimally hassled?
Thanks,
JohnnieBravo
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Massage...Again
Another quick question. It is my understanding that some of the places in Pattaya offering oil massages also will massage other places including the prostate for an additional fee. Does anyone have any info. as to where in Pattaya I might find this service?
Thanks and sorry for two posts in a row.
JohnnieBravo
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ATMs are outside virtually EVERY bank and almost all 7-11 as well
Moreover - you can even go to a bank and make an ATM withdrawal with your passport up to the limit of your daily amount. (Mine is $3000 or roughly 100,000B)
Usually oil massage includes a hand job for a minor tip
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[QUOTE=El Greco]For the average monger I believe 5.000 to 7.000 Baht/day will cover everything for a week stay.
Hotac 1.500
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What's a 'Hotac'? This budget is very high-end. I visit Pattaya for a few days on this budget:
Hotel 450-700
Food 500
Girl(s) 500-1,500
Drinks 200
motorbike 150
other 500
Total 2,300 to 3,550 per day
The main difference being whether I take one girl per day or two. Also note - renting a motorbike is one of the best values in Pattaya, as you will reduce your taxi costs more than the 100-200 per day the bike costs, as well as experiencing a hugely increased freedom of movement. Nothing worse than trudging around on foot.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]What's a 'Hotac'? This budget is very high-end. I visit Pattaya for a few days on this budget:
Hotel 450-700
Food 500
Girl(s) 500-1,500
Drinks 200
motorbike 150
other 500
Total 2,300 to 3,550 per day
The main difference being whether I take one girl per day or two. Also note - renting a motorbike is one of the best values in Pattaya, as you will reduce your taxi costs more than the 100-200 per day the bike costs, as well as experiencing a hugely increased freedom of movement. Nothing worse than trudging around on foot.[/QUOTE]
well ! 200 baht/ day for drink !
That's 1 beer and 1 LD day + some water in 7/11..
Dunno how u can do that but that's impossible ..IMO.
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[QUOTE=Marteau]well ! 200 baht/ day for drink !
That's 1 beer and 1 LD day + some water in 7/11..
Dunno how u can do that but that's impossible ..IMO.[/QUOTE]
I don't drink or buy lady drinks. Cokes and the like are usually around 50 baht in bars.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I don't drink or buy lady drinks. Cokes and the like are usually around 50 baht in bars.[/QUOTE]
So u take girls from bars but u don't even buy her a drink...
no comment !
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[QUOTE=Expatcat]Pete,
Lets just hope that she doesn't get up the duff and start trying to get DNA confirmation and then try to extract extra cash. V. dodgy situation. There but for the grace of god . . .
Expatcat[/QUOTE]
Not possible unless she can reverse the vascetomy
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[QUOTE=Opebo]What's a 'Hotac'? [/QUOTE]
HOTel ACcommodation
Used mainly in the travel business.
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No need for lady drinks, bar fines or the ridiculous prices bars charge for a bevvy.
There are hundreds of freelancers on the beach road and elsewhere, and in my experience their service is as good as if not better than bar girls. They ask for less, give as much or more and help those who are on a tight budget.
In my report of a couple of weeks back, I stated how I had 4 girls for just 1200bt.truly excellent service and all very happy to come with me. No lady drinks to pay for, although we did have some beer in the room, bought at normal retail prices, which made the experiences all the more enjoyable.
Bars, bar fines and the greedy girls found in most are unnecessary.
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I must admit Bumholes that I stray to the bars once in a while. For those of us who knew the Beach Road a few years ago it is hard to be satisfied there now. I'm not sure if it is the police crackdowns or some other force brought to bear but the numbers and quality of girls on the Road are way, way down. There are also hardly any ladyboys compared to before, which also suggests the police are behind the alteration. I don't partake of those 'ladies', but have always found their presence a cheerful sign.
Still, one can find the occasional diamond, which is the whole reason for beachcombing.
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[QUOTE=Striker34]Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
[url]http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/[/url][/QUOTE]
extremely overpriced! i've been there and the chicks are no better than the freelancers on walking
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Safety Check
Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
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Italian drugged and robbed by woman in Central Pattaya Apartment.
[i]Police Sergeant Major Ootin, a Tourist Police Detective received a report from Security Guards working at an apartment complex in Central Pattaya that an Italian had just been drugged and robbed of his possessions. Police arrived and went to the victim’s room. Mr. Claudic Ballarini aged 53 from Italy was lying on the bed in a dazed state. He explained that he had met a woman on Pattaya Beach and, for an agreed fee, she accompanied him back to his room. When the pair arrived, the woman offered Mr. Ballarini what appeared to be a wine gum. Moments later, Mr. Ballarini passed out and a security guard noticed that the woman left alone and decided to check the room and found Mr. Ballarini sleeping on the bed. 2,000 Baht in cash, a gold necklace and a gold bracelet were apparently taken by the woman. Tourist Police are now questioning known prostitutes who work on Pattaya Beach and will attempt to locate and arrest the woman in due course.[/i]
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
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Italian drugged and robbed by woman in Central Pattaya Apartment.
[/i][/QUOTE]Use common sense/ street smarts and you will never have a problem (ie. never accept any drinks or anything from anyone)
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
/QUOTE]
You make a valid point, and this is most important especially for 1st time visitors.. However, I am sure that Opebo, like myself is well aware of the hidden dangers, and have no money gold or other possessions with us nor in the room.
Drugging is negligible - hyped up by the media. There are hundreds of freelancers active everyday, many having repeat customers. The odds are minute, and you are far more likely to get hit by a baht bus whilst making your way with the freelancer to your bed.
You know what you are going to pay for the girl, you know how much for the room and a beer or 2, so never carry more money than you need. Split it up between all your pockets. If you are a tourist staying in a reasonable hotel with all your belongings take her to a short time hotel. She will know where, and it will only cost 100/150
In 20+ years, and many hundreds of freelancers, I have NEVER had any sort of problem. 99% of the time they were excellent - just a few starfish, and NO NO's - No I won't smoke. No don't touch my tits. No I won't do doggy - thats about it.
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Freelancers
I agree with bumholes1. I have been with both bar girls and freelancers and think that I have gotten better performance (on the average) from a freelancer then from a beer bar girl or a go go girl. Been here several days now and have yet to pay a barfine.
Bumholes point is well taken though...one does has to excersize caution and good judgement when being with these girls. After having said that....I hope that my DATY with a freelancer I had earlier will be ok and that I will not bring anything back home with me except my tailor made suits ;-)
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Back in Pattaya
Arrived back in Pattaya after a 6 month absence, its good to be reminded all the time that I am so hansome, I am even beginning to believe it myself. I am staying at the Eastiny Place on Soi 8 a hotel I highly regard. It is spotlessly clean, very accomodating, has a nice pool and all for 1100 baht, plus it is in the centre of the action.
Am not into beer bar girls or go go girls and like to explore the freelancer action, even trying the malls, shops and other places for potential targets. On my second day I had a stroll down the beach road and found a pair of girls sitting opposite the Royal Garden Plaza.
Both seemed uniterested in Farang watching and both had their backs to the foot path, looking out towards the beach and sea.
One woman was in her late 30's but the other at a guess was about 18 or 19. I started chatting to them both, but with lustful intent on the young girl. It transpires she was a new arrival from Isaan, couldn't speak very much English (always a good sign in my book) and had joined her sister who was already working in Pattaya and had just split up from her Norwegian boyfriend. (I interpreted this to mean her sister was a WG). I speak Thai so was able to have a reasonable conversation with both and after a few pleasantries I suggested the younger one come with me. She seemed reluctant at first, however we agreed to meet later that evening. I suggested she come to my hotel but she said she would prefer to meet me back at the beach as she did not know her way around Pattaya (another good sign)
Money was not discussed at any point and I left them both feeling a sense of anticipation in my trousers.
Anyway after meeting the girl, having some drinks we retired to the hotel at about 10. I know it was very early but I was tired and feel very horny. Di as her name is was actually 18 with the slimmest cutest body, tight ass and stomach and not one ounce of fat....my ideal.
She seemed very inexperienced and it transpired I was her very first Farang, though she admitted she did have a Thai bf before.
Anyway the sex was ok, but I guess part of the turn on for me was her relative inexperience and young age of 18.
There was little in the way of foreplay or touching from her and she even seemed reluctant to kiss. Anyway it was not of great importance this time due to me feeling like a man who had just come out of prison after 10 years.
In the morning I left her my number, 1000 baht which she seemed happy with and off she went. We agreed to meet later that day, though I thought to myself I will keep her as a reserve just in case I do not meet anything better looking.
Later that day she called. I told her I would see her again on condition she was more responsive and that I expected OWO full kissing and lots of touching. She agreed and so began my second night with this girl.
This time the performance was a 100 times better and she performed OWO hesitatingly at first, but she soon got into the swing of things. I responded with DATY and then plunged inside her making her gasp and groan. She came with gasps and a scream as I did and we both collapsed in a heap on the bed spending the rest of the night cuddling.
I gave her 1000 baht again this morning and bought her breakfast. I felt a bit pissed that she just took the money without so much as a thank you, but what the hell it it just a minor complaint.
I am planning to see her tonight but am now thinking about looking elsewhere for something different.
I will keep my fellow mongers posted.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]...If you are a tourist staying in a reasonable hotel with all your belongings take her to a short time hotel. She will know where, and it will only cost 100/150...[/QUOTE]
The only problem with these cheap short time hotels is that they are mostly filthy dumps with stained sheets, phone booth sized bathrooms, no hot water, and usually no air conditioning. I can't get comfortable for a good sex session in at place like that so I end up taking them home in spite of the potential risks.
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Daddy07, there are many short time places with air, including even PS Guesthouse (200 baht). Admittedly not a place everyone can stomach. There are several others on Soi Yamoto in the 200-300 baht range that are cleaner, and many others around Pattaya. Many even have hot water - Nipa House on Yamoto does for 200, and there's one opposite it that is downright posh for 300.. the name escapes me.
I always feel so much more relaxed in a short-time hotel, unless the girl is an old regular. Makes me nervous to have a strange girl in my room! (I know that sounds funny).
I'll add a non-Pattaya aside - up here in Isaan every town has an astounding number of '24 hotels', mostly near the outskirts. These are identifiable only by the 24 in the sign and the motel-building look, as there is usually no English. The typical charge is 150-160 baht for two hours, and about double that for overnight, though few sleep there. A small minority of these places will have girls on call, or a massage or kareoke front joint attached, though be warned the services are usually expensive for the foreigner (1,000-1,500). I assume these can be found in other parts of Thailand as well. Interestingly, these are all much cleaner and nicer than the typical short time place in Pattaya - many even have the mirrors round the bed.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Daddy07, there are many short time places with air, including even PS Guesthouse (200 baht). Admittedly not a place everyone can stomach...[/QUOTE]
HaHaHa ... man, you can say that again about PS Guesthouse! It's awfully convenient for a 500 baht BR BJ girl, but that place is gross to the maximum. I once made the mistake of tossing my light colored T-shirt on top of the wardrobe. When I brought it down just a few minutes later, (I don't last long in these dumps), the side touching the surface was completely black from the 1/4 inch layer of dust up there. It probably hadn't been cleaned since the building was new.
It's hard to concentrate on the sex when your mind is occupied with trying to avoid lying down on some previous punter's spunk spots, so I can't relax like you can in such a place. I must admit, however, that the sickening ambiance of the room can somehow almost inhance the porn style sexual experience, so long as the only part of your body actually touching any surface is your feet.
I'm sure there must be much better short time places as you describe, but when the price gets up to the 300 baht range and beyond, it's starting to approach the amount of the tip you'll be paying the girl, thus bringing the law of diminishing returns into the equasion. So I'd rather just take the girl back home. When staying in a decent hotel you can always have the desk clerk keep the girl's ID card during your session.
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Hello,
I'm in Pattaya in November. Nobody is there for a beer? It's my first time. I must prenotation the room. Someone can help me. This website. And this appartment someone try? It's girl friendly?
[url]http://www.dianapattaya.co.th[/url]
And if is not girl friendly someone can help me and indicated some appartment in the centre (near walkin street)?
Thanks
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well, mort - thing is that you may have well serviced her as much as she you and she was embarrassed to say so.
I've found that it's almost characteristic of newbies not to know what to do if they enjoyed themselves. See if she calls back. I'm thinking she might view you as a potential BF and didn't want to scare you off by alluding to a "satisfactory commercial transaction".
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US Embassy Services in Pattaya
Note to Pattaya expats:
The US Embassy in BKK periodically provides a one day extension office in Pattaya for the benefit of US citizens who have business with the Embassy, such as passport and visa matters, etc. A vice counsel and staff was at the Dusit Hotel on July 18. I was able to obtain notarized proof of monthly income for purposes of extending my retirement visa without making a trip to Bangkok.
It’s a good idea to monitor the Embassy website from time to time at [url]http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/[/url] for announcements of future Pattaya visits. It saved me both time and money.
Regards,
Daddy
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Day 1 Pattaya
Flew in to new Bangkok airport at 11. 00 local time last night. Was in Pattaya by 12. 30. Still quite busy around walking st and soi 7. 8. Had a look around had a couple of beers and picked #66 from Living Dolls go go. The bigger one further up walking st. This girl had the most magnificent set of natural tits you will see on a Thai or any other girl for that matter. If you are into porn they were a bit like Amy Reid the pornstar. They seemed to defy gravity and were 100% natural. The rest of her wasn't bad but the tits were the stunning feature. She has a couple of big tatts which I am not a massive fan of but don't care too much about anymore. She was ok in the sack without being great.
Overall looks 8
Body 9.5 (tits)
Face 7.5
Personality 8 - quite bbbly, smiley and friendly
Conversation 6 - not great english
BJ 5
Enthusiam 7
Overall rating 7.5 - Hopefully can do better tonight.
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Return From Pattaya
I just returned from Pattaya two days ago. Spent a few days with a freelancer I know from a couple of times before. Good time as always, but again, maybe I am just lucky with this one.
She said things with her were slower than this time last year so it might be that the ladies are keener. As low/slow season I enjoyed my stay this time. Maybe I am just getting old!
Anyway off to Dubai tomorrow early, and not looking forward to the comparrison when I return... For me this is the right time of year for Thailand.
Good Luck!
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Day 2 Pattaya
Took #34 out of Living Dolls 1 last night for short time. Meant to go out again and do a round 2 but fell asleep. Not much enthusiasm but very good lookng. Might go for a more down to earth beer bar girl tonight.
Looks 9
body 9.5
enthusiasm 4
conversation 7
over all 6
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Soi 6
My regular gf came over from Bangkok and stayed for a few days so my freedom has been curtailed somewhat. Saw her off on the songtaew this morning as she had to get back for work and needed to get to the bus station early.
I wasted no time at all looking for something to satisy my lustings that had been building up over the last couple of days so took a walk down Soi 6. I have to say that this is not my usual style and I normally prefer freelancers, but I did not want to waste precious time hunting around all afternoon looking for something suitable.
Anyway it was about 12 noon today and the soi was already teeming with girls all eager to please. The choice down here is amazing and though I feel the general quality of the freelancers is not as good as it was when I was here last time, Soi 6 seemed to have plenty of choice with a generally good standard.
I have walked down this Soi so many times over the years, even stopped for a drink here but never taken a girl, but today I was a man on a mission.
I opted for one bar that had a cute girl outside and asked her how much for short time. It came to 300 baht for the room and 1000 for her which I thought was a bit expensive and so declined. It really amazes me that the girls do not seem prepared to negotiate even in low season when the girls outnumber the men 10 to 1. Anyway I moved on and a few bars further along came across a young girl with the cutest smile I have ever seen. She turned out to be 23 from Buriam, really small and very very petite, just the way I like them. We talked about the price which was 250 for the room and 700 for her and I was in no mood to wait any longer and accepted. Her name was Dow and she came inside the bar with me whilst I paid for the room.
This girl was unbelievable, she had the warmest personality and a constant beaming smile that lit the whole place up. We went up through two flights of stairs to a room which was very basic but clean and comfortable. We showered together, with her washing me down and then retired to the room.
For 700 she performed OWO and I have to say the technique was superb, as good as I have had anywhere else.
She did not rush me and I felt relaxed in her presence. She was receptive with lots of french kissing and hugging and I could take no more than 5 minutes before exploding in her mouth. She continued sucking until I could take no more and tapped her on the shoulder to ask her to stop. She looked up, smiled and I realised that she had swallowed the whole mouthful. Wow for a total price of 1000 baht including a small tip, this beat any service I have had anywhere and is certainly better value for money than the 500 baht short time freelancers, though that still holds a certain attraction for me.
If anyone wants to try out this experience, it was a bar called the Bull Ring in Soi 6 opposite the King Kong Bar. It is a fairly unassuming place and might not necessarily be a person's first port of call in this Soi, but this was one of my very best experiences in many visits to Pattaya.
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Hold that Line!
Mortman,
Good job to smell the overpricing by some girls at soi 6, rain or shine even if there is a line, the going rate at all the bar's at Soi 6, is 250-300 for the house and 700 baht for the girl!
LBM
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]I have never mongered outside the US and I have finally chosen a destination. This would be Pattaya. I have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. What exactly do I need to travel from the U. S to Thailand. How easy is it to find party favors in Thailand besides the liquor. I am not le. Everybody seems to think that when I ask this question. I have been jumped on in other rooms. I have planned a pre disneyland trip to DR in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. I am doing this to get my feet wet so I have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
1. Outside of mongering what other activities are there I love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. Should I rent a car to get around?
3. Will a U. S liscense work in Thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. What places do you recomend to eat I am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. I am planning on going alone should I drag someone with me or am I safe by myself?
6. I work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should I pay to use their facilities?
7. How do the thai people view black americans?
8. Would you check out Bangkok or just focus on Pattaya?
9. Are all hotels girl friendly in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
1) You can Jet ski Banana boats etc in pattaya there is also the cinema and bowling.
2) If you are only staying in Pattaya then there is no point I have never needed one the Baht bus is a good and cheap way to get around.
3) You should get a thai (international license) but most people don't bother .
4) There are plenty of places to eat steak (sorry I do not know what Chillis is ) pattaya has many western fast food places as well.
5) You will be find by yourself.
6) do not know.
7) Sorry I do not know either.
8) How long are you staying out there for? You could spend a couple of days in Bangkok then pattaya.
9) no they are not a GF place is where they will let a girl stay with you for no extra charge see the hotel thread.
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn] I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
[/QUOTE]Wow. You are only planning on spending 5 days in Thailand? Trust me. That will not be enough time. Maybe stay one night in Bangkok (nana hotel) and then spend the rest in Pattaya. I recomend staying in the Soi 8 area. (many beer bars/central location)
I'm 29 myself. If you want to party at night, go to Club Lucifer's (mostly hip hop if you like that) and you can find you an all night freelancer for 1000 baht. ($30)
Have fun (your next trip should be brazil!)
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ThaCTJohn
[quote=thactjohn]i have never mongered outside the us and i have finally chosen a destination. this would be pattaya. i have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. what exactly do i need to travel from the u. s to thailand. how easy is it to find party favors in thailand besides the liquor. i am not le. everybody seems to think that when i ask this question. i have been jumped on in other rooms. i have planned a pre disneyland trip to dr in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. i am doing this to get my feet wet so i have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. i am planning on spending three days in pattaya and 2 in bangkok and i have a few questions and by the way i am 28 years old and love to party that's why i asked about the party favors in the intro. thanks for the help.
1. outside of mongering what other activities are there i love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. should i rent a car to get around?
3. will a u. s liscense work in thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. what places do you recomend to eat i am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. i am planning on going alone should i drag someone with me or am i safe by myself?
6. i work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should i pay to use their facilities?
7. how do the thai people view black americans?
8. would you check out bangkok or just focus on pattaya?
9. are all hotels girl friendly in pattaya?[/quote]
1. although all kinds of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] are freely available in pattaya, personally i would not want to swim in and around pattaya. the water here is quite dirty and polluted and there are much nicer places in thailand if that is your primary focus. you can take boat trips out to a couple of the islands off pattaya, where the water quality is better.
2. as thai learner said, if pattaya is your primary destination and this is your first visit, i would strongly advise against hiring a car here. traffic can be almost as busy as bangkok and cars drive on the left hand side here (some would argue the correct side!) if you really want to get around with some freedom, hire a motorcycle. a scooter here will set you back around 1000 baht for one week and the machines are generally very new. it is a good way to explore pattaya by yourself and quite safe so long as you don't try to ride whislt drunk. if you go outside of pattaya in a car especially in and around bangkok, the roads can be very confusing even with a good map.
3. if you are renting a car then i would recommend an international licence. i don't know about the us but in the uk they are easy to get and cost very little. in thailand it is a requirement to have an international licence and whilst it is almost never going to be an issue with a motorcycle, if you get stopped on a freeway driving a car, the cops will expect you to have one, and you are likely to be fined if you don't.
4. the advice you have been given previously is correct. chillis are part of the staple diet here in thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
5. you are completely safe here alone, in fact i feel much safer here than i do in many us and uk cities, even at night. like anywhere you need to exercise standard precautions but pattaya is very very safe.
6. there are many many gyms here. many of the larger 4 and 5 star hotels have fitness rooms and there are at least 10 hard core bodybuilding gyms in and around pattaya. just ask the hotel receptionist and they will find the nearest one to wherever you want to stay. incidentally anabolic steroids of all descriptions are freely available from the pharmacies here, if that is your thing.
7.thai people can be funny when it comes to race. there has been much discussion about this subject on other threads in the thailand forum. where you do encounter racism it tends to be done very discreetly, for example a bar girl will say she is not feeling well rather than go with you. don't let this put you off though, the power of money here is all that matters and there are many people coming here from the middle east, so people are getting used to other races rather than just white farang. i have never seen any overt racism and it will not be a problem for you i am sure.
8. bangkok is interesting in its own right and i suggest you read the bkk thread.
9. virtually all hotels are girl friendly in pattaya and it simply would be commercial suicide for them here if they stopped being girl friendly.
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]7. How do the thai people view black americans?[/QUOTE]I've had no problem as a black american in Thailand. The girls love the "chocolate man" as they will yell at you constantly. As I said before, you will love Lucifer's at night on Walking street.
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[QUOTE=Mortman]4. The advice you have been given previously is correct. Chillis are part of the staple diet here in Thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
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Guys,
Chilis is a chain of restaurants serving Tex-mex or some abomination that hankers towards it. Steak, fajitas, chicken etc. Popular in the US and it's managed to be exported to the Middle East. Not my type, but just to clarify, if clarity needed. Somehow methingks you posted with tongue very much in cheek. I may be wrong :)
Expatcat
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Royal Asia Garden has both Sizzler and Benihana.
Steak and teppanyaki both there - opposite ends of the mall
I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself (ta mai pet, kin mai chawp) :)
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[QUOTE=Expatcat]Guys,
Chilis is a chain of restaurants serving Tex-mex or some abomination that hankers towards it. Steak, fajitas, chicken etc. Popular in the US and it's managed to be exported to the Middle East. Not my type, but just to clarify, if clarity needed. Somehow methingks you posted with tongue very much in cheek. I may be wrong :)
Expatcat[/QUOTE]
IMHO, "Chili's" is god awful. Then again, so are Sizzlers and Benyhana. I go to the LOS to eat Thai. Both the girls and the food. ;-)
Take care,
N1
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself[/QUOTE]
You obviously have a death wish.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]
I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself [/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more! Off -the- street food and off -the -street girls. Both delicious, tasty and much cheaper!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Couldn't agree more! Off -the- street food and off -the -street girls. Both delicious, tasty and much cheaper![/QUOTE]
That may be true. But, at least in the case of the food, it's not very healthy and not all that good for you.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]That may be true. But, at least in the case of the food, it's not very healthy and not all that good for you.[/QUOTE]
How is it unhealthy?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How is it unhealthy?[/QUOTE]
The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking. Most vegetable dishes are over-cooked, so lack much nutrition. They tend to use the cheapest refined rice which has high glucose content and almost no nutritive value. The soup water in which they cook noodles is rarely changed and sits exposed to the same dirty air.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking. Most vegetable dishes are over-cooked, so lack much nutrition. They tend to use the cheapest refined rice which has high glucose content and almost no nutritive value. The soup water in which they cook noodles is rarely changed and sits exposed to the same dirty air.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.[/QUOTE]
How can you be sure that the same methods you mentioned above aren't being used in a restaurant too? It's hard to tell what's going on behind the scenes in the kitchen.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How can you be sure that the same methods you mentioned above aren't being used in a restaurant too? It's hard to tell what's going on behind the scenes in the kitchen.[/QUOTE]
Well, of course, that's true because there's no health inspector here like you would find in a western city. But, after you've been here awhile, you do get to know the places that have excellent food and can be trusted.
As for Pattaya...there isn't any really good Thai food there anyway, in my experience. Like most tourist traps, a lot of the food has been Farang-ized beyond recognition.
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Pattaya
I was in Pattaya last week. Really!
Everybody knows that I am a big Pattaya fan, and now that I haven't been there for at least 3 years it was time to go there again [nonsense, simply business].
It has changed. New buildings, hotels, shopping centers/areas everywhere. Much more modern now. Not good, not bad, somehow a crazy mix, all the bar areas next to modern buildings.
Many Russian tourists now, and surprisingly also many couples and families. May be because I stayed in North Pattaya ..., a nice resort (Green Garden Resort ?!?, not sure about the name), huge pool, reasonable rooms, clean, TV, average quality breakfast and food. Beds not too good, old matrices, simple sheets. Internet - wireless, 70 min THB 100, 10 min. to display one page, SMTP blocked - unusable. I went to Starbucks (in Royal Garden Shopping Center), there it works very well.
Nightlife:
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.
Gogo's: Happy A Gogo was somehow ok. Provider quality average ... but no reason to run away immediately. No smoking in that bar ! I was surprised. Bar had customers.
Diamond a GoGo - the hit a few years ago - now dead. No customers, no quality providers. I left immediately.
Tahitian Queen - bar is still good, has customers, providers quality average, good music.
Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it.
Giotto
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Street food.
I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam[/QUOTE]
Pra ra is healthy? :eek:
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[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken. .[/QUOTE]
Som tam or Som tum (Thai: ส้มตำ, IPA: som ɗam) also known as Tam mak hoong (Lao: ??????????, Isan: ตำมักหุ่ง, IPA: ɗam mak huŋ) is a spicy salad made from shredded unripened papaya originally from Laos and Lao-settled Isan region of northeastern Thailand. Variations of the dish are found throughout Laos and Thailand, as well as in the West, where it is more commonly known by its Thai version and Thai name. A similar dish is also eaten in Cambodia, where it is known as bok l'hong. It is often served with sticky rice (Lao: ເຂົ້າໜຽວ, Thai/Isan: ข้าวเหนียว, IPA: kʰaːw nio) and gai yang (Lao: ປິງໄກ່, IPA: piŋ gɑj, Isan: ไก่ย่าง, gɑj ɲːaŋ, Thai: ไก่ย่าง, IPA: gɑj jːaŋ). It is also sometimes served over rice noodles and raw vegetables to mitigate the spiciness of the dish, or simply as a snack by itself with crispy pork rinds.
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[QUOTE=Giotto]...Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it...[/QUOTE]
So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :) It's such a pleasant contrast to all the slobbering knuckle dragger stories we usually see on this thread.
Please don't make us wait 3 years for the next one.
Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.
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[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.[/QUOTE]
Well, in fact they can make somtam with either papaya or mango. Mango somtam is one of my favorites. They also make a somtam with long beans. That's called somtam tua - also a favorite. Have you actually ever been to a proper Isaan restaurant? You'll find a whole variety of somtam on offer.
But, in actual fact I did mean to say papaya, not mango in my post as papaya is by far, the most common form of somtam, and usually the only kind available on the street.
Terry...You're right. pra ra is decidely unhealthy and has been linked to stomache cancer. But, I don't think there are many Farang who eat anything but the sweet and sour somtam Thai. Personally, I hate pra ra and those little black crabs, too.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :) It's such a pleasant contrast to all the slobbering knuckle dragger stories we usually see on this thread.
Please don't make us wait 3 years for the next one.
Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.[/QUOTE]
I think the problem Daddy is that you guys in Patts get so conditioned by the low-standard of women available there that you lose sight of what a good-looking Thai woman really is. I think Giotto's reaction to the women is because he probably sees women of such quality on a daily basis that one would never see in Patts.
A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I think the problem Daddy is that you guys in Patts get so conditioned by the low-standard of women available there that you lose sight of what a good-looking Thai woman really is. I think Giotto's reaction to the women is because he probably sees women of such quality on a daily basis that one would never see in Patts.
A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]
No problem at all, OTH. I always get a chuckle at all the sophisticates’ from Bangkok stumbling over each other in their over the top exaggerations about the shit hole of Pattaya.
You know ... stuff like: "A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok." Very comical.
I'm sure you must be correct, but I'm happy I've not discovered the awful truth yet. :)
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DON'T VISIT PATTAYA! This place sucks!
[QUOTE=Giotto]I was in Pattaya last week. Really!
Everybody knows that I am a big Pattaya fan, and now that I haven't been there for at least 3 years it was time to go there again [nonsense, simply business].
It has changed. New buildings, hotels, shopping centers/areas everywhere. Much more modern now. Not good, not bad, somehow a crazy mix, all the bar areas next to modern buildings.
Many Russian tourists now, and surprisingly also many couples and families. May be because I stayed in North Pattaya ..., a nice resort (Green Garden Resort ?!?, not sure about the name), huge pool, reasonable rooms, clean, TV, average quality breakfast and food. Beds not too good, old matrices, simple sheets. Internet - wireless, 70 min THB 100, 10 min. to display one page, SMTP blocked - unusable. I went to Starbucks (in Royal Garden Shopping Center), there it works very well.
Nightlife:
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.
Gogo's: Happy A Gogo was somehow ok. Provider quality average ... but no reason to run away immediately. No smoking in that bar ! I was surprised. Bar had customers.
Diamond a GoGo - the hit a few years ago - now dead. No customers, no quality providers. I left immediately.
Tahitian Queen - bar is still good, has customers, providers quality average, good music.
Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Come on Giotto. As a moderator you might consider a little moderation. This post smacks of a bit of a negative marketing campaign coming from someone who obviously has some financial interest in promoting BKK and Soi 33 and the establishment you are associated with.
I would humbly suggest that one very short visit in 3 years doesn't qualify you as an expert in the quality of the girls in Pattaya.
I read a lot of your material re: BKK and found it quite informative. This was not one of your best efforts.
I've seen both gorgeous and exceptionally unattractive girls in both places. The proportion of gorgeous vs. unattractive varies from time to time in both places. IMHO, attitudes and price of the girls are a bit better in Pattaya. But, that's just from my experiences. I've had great and beautiful WGs in both venues. I've also had less than great encounters in both places.
I've visited Soi 33 a number of times (5 or 6) and in all cases I found attractive and unattractive girls just like Pattaya. The issue I have encountered with Soi 33 girls was attitude and price. There have been a number of Soi 33 Painter bars that I visited with girls that made many of the Soi 7 beer bar girls look really good.
Still Soi 33 is still worth a visit. The prices for the girls and the drinks are a bit over the top.
I don't pretend to be an expert on all that is the LOS. I'm just a tourist. Just like you were a tourist in Pattaya. How many nights did you spend in Pattaya before you came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth a visit for the next 3 years or maybe never?
Given your very informative reports on BKK; you could have been a little more honest or at least informative with your post.
Here is my edited version of your post. "I have a vested interest in a hotel/resort on Soi 33 in BKK. As a smart business man, I must suggest that you never visit Pattaya. This place really sucks and 99.99% of the girls in that butt hole of a place are exceptionally fugly. On the other hand, a vast majority (99.99%) of the girls on Soi 33 are stunners. Pattaya sucks! Why would any punter in his right mind go there? BTW. Check out my place on Soi 33 in BKK."
That may or may not have been your intention. But that's the way I interpreted your post. I'm pulling your chain a bit here. No harm intended. I seriously have found your BKK posts informative.
Take care,
N1
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :)
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Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.[/QUOTE]Daddy07,
Hmmm, I think I feel the irony in your words ... :)
Anyway, I tried to write my report as unbiased as possible - I never liked Pattaya, so I am biased, for sure.
I definitely find the providers quality low there, compared to Bangkok. This has a lot to do with the type of bars I visited, the way the girls are dressed, the way they behave, the way they carry themselves - not my thing. But - to each his own. There are obviously lots of customers which like this style.
No way that I start a business in Pattaya. I checked out some boutique hotels which are to be sold, and my decision was very clear: No business in Pattaya, I don't want to spend a lot of time there to start it up. I also don't see a real chance of making money there, it is mass tourism, and money can only be made with quantity, most likely not with quality. I thought about giving it a try, but I put that plan to the files.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Nuevo]Come on Giotto. As a moderator you might consider a little moderation. This post smacks of a bit of a negative marketing campaign coming from someone who obviously has some financial interest in promoting BKK and Soi 33 and the establishment you are associated with.
I would humbly suggest that one very short visit in 3 years doesn't qualify you as an expert in the quality of the girls in Pattaya.
I read a lot of your material re: BKK and found it quite informative. This was not one of your best efforts.
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[/QUOTE]Nuevo,
I visited Pattaya, and I wrote a report. I can stop writing reports about Pattaya, if you wish ...
When I read my report again - I mentioned, that it was my first visit since 3 years - that definitely doesn't qualify me as a Pattaya expert. I simply wrote about what I saw. My personal impression.
There was no marketing approach for Livingstone's Lodge in this report at all. Pattaya customers are usually not customers of Soi 33 in Bangkok. Those worlds obviously don't really match.
Regarding the quality of girls: There is a huge difference between Soi 33 and what I saw in Pattaya. But there is no area like Soi 33 in Pattaya from which I know - so it does not really surprise me. You can compare the Go-Go bars of Pattaya with the Soi Nana / Soi Cowboy area and possibly the beer bars with those we have here in Bangkok in Soi 22 and Soi 5/7. And even then - there are differences in the behaviour, dresses etc., in my POV.
But I hope that I am allowed to write a report about Pattaya when I have visited it without being qualified as a Pattaya expert - everybody else writing here is for sure more expert about Thai service provider quality and Pattaya than me.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Nuevo]...
Here is my edited version of your post. "I have a vested interest in a hotel/resort on Soi 33 in BKK. As a smart business man, I must suggest that you never visit Pattaya. This place really sucks and 99.99% of the girls in that butt hole of a place are exceptionally fugly. On the other hand, a vast majority (99.99%) of the girls on Soi 33 are stunners. Pattaya sucks! Why would any punter in his right mind go there? BTW. Check out my place on Soi 33 in BKK."
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[/QUOTE]Nuevo,
LOL, no, that is definitely not the message - please not!
The experiences we have here in Livingstone's with the tourists who usually visit Pattaya is - let's say difficult. And this is not meant to be any kind of valuation ...
Pattaya is relatively cheap, you can get everything cheap there, cheap hotels, cheap food, cheap girls. Soi 33 is definitely not cheap - that doesn't fit together. Some Pattaya tourists visit Bangkok and Livingstone's, and when they start to compare it always comes down to one point - everything is so expensive here in Soi 33, compared to Pattaya.
Then the quality approach - are the girls "better" than in Pattaya? What justifies a higher price? What is "better" ? The performance in the sack? I don't think that the higher prices for girls guarantee a better performance ...
There are people staying in Khao San Road area, in the lower Sukhumvit area, in the 5 star hotels at the river, in North Pattaya, South Pattaya - to each his own. All the areas have a different style and provide different entertainment options. Everybody should just accept that and do whatever he likes.
The most problematic customers for us here at Livingstone's are the unhappy ones - i.e. the ones who like to stay in this place because so much was written in the forums, but they expect something like Pattaya - and then the rooms, food, girls are more expensive here. And the complaining starts ...
For me - Pattaya sucks. But obviously for many others not. To each his own, let's leave it like that.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.[/QUOTE]
In many budget Hotels, the food quality is not that great.
Off the street often tastes a lot better.
There are many crap expensive restaurants around as well.
Street sellers wouldn't do well if their food tastes bad.
The times I have been sick were from eating in restaurants, although not may be top class expensive ones.
I have never been sick from eating off the street vendors.
A large portion of Thais are poor and cannot afford expensive restaurants. They are quite happy to eat from selected street vendors that they trust to have fresh produce. Some will buy at the markets and prepare for themselves especially when nearby street vendors don't have the variety.
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[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.
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OTH knew that Som Tam was made with Malagor (papaya) but miss translated into English. (just a slip)
However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not so commonly ordered.
There are many Thai dishes where we know what it is in Thai but rarely have to speak its English names.
Some we wouldn't have a clue what it is called in English.
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Road Spice
The reason food from street vendors has that unique, hard to identify flavor, is Road Spice. This is the dust that is thrown up by every passing motorcycle, car, truck and bus. It is a combination of dirt, garbage, particulate pollution, spit, cigarette butts and ashes, and dried, pulverized droppings from stray dogs. The street vendors are aware of this 'Manna from the tires' and position themselves to take the best advantage of it. Witness the BBQ chicken carts right next to Sukhumvit Highway.
Street food is not the only beneficiary of this free seasoning. If you eat in one of the open air restaurants, along Beach Road for example, you'll notice they wipe the table when you sit down. After you finish your meal, wipe your finger on the table and notice the black grime on your finger tip. What falls out of the air onto your table fell on your food as well.
Think about it.
Khun Talung
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]No problem at all, OTH. I always get a chuckle at all the sophisticates’ from Bangkok stumbling over each other in their over the top exaggerations about the shit hole of Pattaya.
You know ... stuff like: "A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok." Very comical.
I'm sure you must be correct, but I'm happy I've not discovered the awful truth yet. :)[/QUOTE]
The exception might be the nurses at Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. Some of them are pretty hot.
Anyway, I'm sure you and I have quite different tastes. So, my condemnation of the dark lovelies of Patts comes from my rather un-Farang view of what constitutes Thai beauty. I'm not going to get into any more debates about that because my view is the minority view on here and I respect that fact.
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[QUOTE=Superman79]I've had no problem as a black american in Thailand. The girls love the "chocolate man" as they will yell at you constantly. As I said before, you will love Lucifer's at night on Walking street.[/QUOTE]
Everything is Ok for the Chocolate Man, as long as he has money (possibly overspends)....and doesn't take too long. Trouble starts for the Chocolate Man when there is a money dispute, a cultural dispute or a babe who just doesn't like you dispute. The Chocolate Man would not be happy if he heard the girl's comments behind his back...and neither would the the Vanilla Man. Thai rak Thai for the most part.....Chocolate and Vanilla welcome to play....with money for the honey!!
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not common.
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It is very common here in Isaan. Perhaps you Bangkok types should spend a weekend out here sometime and see what you are missing, in both types of food!
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not common.[/QUOTE]
True. It's not common with street vendors largely because mangos are so much more expensive than papaya. The same would be true for Isaan people at home. They're less likely to make somtam mamuang when they can make somtam malagor for a lot less money. But, they still often do. Also, pra ra and those black crabs don't really go with mango, IMO.
But, mango somtam is readily available in any Isaan restaurant or Thai restaurant that has somtam on it's menu. Even that Isaan chain 'Yum Saep' has it. They have a lovely fried fish with mango somtam dip - sweet, sour and spicy and quite good.
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]I have never mongered outside the US and I have finally chosen a destination. This would be Pattaya. I have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. What exactly do I need to travel from the U. S to Thailand. How easy is it to find party favors in Thailand besides the liquor. I am not le. Everybody seems to think that when I ask this question. I have been jumped on in other rooms. I have planned a pre disneyland trip to DR in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. I am doing this to get my feet wet so I have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
1. Outside of mongering what other activities are there I love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. Should I rent a car to get around?
3. Will a U. S liscense work in Thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. What places do you recomend to eat I am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. I am planning on going alone should I drag someone with me or am I safe by myself?
6. I work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should I pay to use their facilities?
7. How do the thai people view black americans?
8. Would you check out Bangkok or just focus on Pattaya?
9. Are all hotels girl friendly in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
You need a passport and some time to read the thousands of posts on this forum. There are many gyms all over major cities with many different pricing plans. Don't rent a car.....and don't focus on Pattaya alone....and no.....after working out five days a week.....you won't need to drag anyone along.......
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Giotto you are quite right that Pattaya is worse than it used to be, due to 'modernization'. But I'd like to comment on two of your observations:
[QUOTE=Giotto]
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.[/quote]
These establishments have customers, Giotto, because men from certain countries, such as England, Germany, and the US do not have access to sex in their homelands. They come to Thailand and a few other destinations because these are the only places where they can have easy access to sex.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
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You are quite correct that the quality is low on the Beach, but this is a major change from years ago. Police action has led to fewer good looking girls on the beach. However, those who still brave the authorities can easily make 1,000-2,000 baht per day, as there are far more customers on the beach than in any bar. Many men simply hate the bars, and the annoyance of having to drink so much liquid for no good reason. Also there is something very irritating about having to sit in a place where there are only maybe 5-10 girls for even 15 minutes, not to mention paying 40-100 baht for the privilege. Keep in mind that the wonder of prostitution is Convenience, Giotto. You get to have lots of sex with lots of women, and most importantly without having to put up with many impositions.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.[/QUOTE]
OTH, I eat in small restaurants and on the street constantly, but I do not eat 'pad' whatever - or anyway rarely. I also dislike the noodles soup which makes up some 80% of street food. What I eat, and recommend, are the pre-prepared foods which are set out in pots and pans. These are mostly delicious curries and soups rather than stir fried dishes. Alas this type of restaurant is getting rarer in Pattaya and Bangkok as it requires more trouble and space while development is destroying all that is good in the this country (and the rest of the world), and while up in Isaan though they are plentiful nearly all only offer take-out in the little plastic bags.
At any rate, the only times I have ever gotten even slightly sick in Thailand has been when I have eaten at more expensive Thai or Farang restaurants - in fact in these I've come to rather expect it. I've never gotten sick from street food. The key is quite simply that you must eat where the owner or a member of the owner's family cooks the food - paid cooks don't much care, and this is true anywhere in the world. Also always remember that Thais don't eat farang food, and therefore farang food is cooked with great indifference by Thais, who dislike farang.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Everything is Ok for the Chocolate Man, as long as he has money (possibly overspends)....and doesn't take too long. [/QUOTE]I have never had problems with thai women in pattaya!!!! And I NEVER overspend. 500 baht short time (usually 3 hours multiple finishes) and 1000 baht long time have to kick them out in the morning!
I agree money talks and could care less what is spoken around my back!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]It is very common here in Isaan. Perhaps you Bangkok types should spend a weekend out here sometime and see what you are missing, in both types of food![/QUOTE]
O.K. Point taken. What I should say is I didn't see someone order Som Tam Mamuang very often. I have editted to improve my wording. But my Issan GF did order it once or twice.
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The world is full of dirt, shit, insects, microbes, etc.
[QUOTE=Khun Talung]The reason food from street vendors has that unique, hard to identify flavor, is Road Spice. This is the dust that is thrown up by every passing motorcycle, car, truck and bus. It is a combination of dirt, garbage, particulate pollution, spit, cigarette butts and ashes, and dried, pulverized droppings from stray dogs. The street vendors are aware of this 'Manna from the tires' and position themselves to take the best advantage of it. Witness the BBQ chicken carts right next to Sukhumvit Highway.
Street food is not the only beneficiary of this free seasoning. If you eat in one of the open air restaurants, along Beach Road for example, you'll notice they wipe the table when you sit down. After you finish your meal, wipe your finger on the table and notice the black grime on your finger tip. What falls out of the air onto your table fell on your food as well.
Think about it.
Khun Talung[/QUOTE]
I am am blessed with no paranoia about dirt and microbes.
I know that girls mouths are full of germs and viruses yet I still want to kiss them. I have caught viruses but didn't kill me.
I hope a Psychiatrist can help. He might ask you if ironical/sarcastic writing shows a special talent too? It doesn't turn me on.
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Got to jump in!
concerning food i will have to agree with o****, most of the food i buy comes from the thai local outdoor markets, some cooked and some not but always from the same vendors who i accept their health habits. up to date now i haven't ever been sick and as i stay longer in pattaya i have started to try more street vendor food near my home and found that some of those bbq's pork and chicken sticks with the peanut sauce are unbelievable good. but remember oth,, a good ass cleansing is good for the system as long as you don't have to check into a hospital.
i'm certainly not a expert on looks when it comes to comparing girls in bangkok and pattaya, although i have the ball and chain on regularly i do get to look and i can only say oth, pattaya should get more credit than you are giving it. yes, pattaya now is growing and as you stated in the past there is more crime and after staying here longer i would agree with that point of view certainly now as the economy is slowing down. in regards to a 10 in pattaya only being a 4 in bangkok i can only say in my own eyes you are dead wrong. outside of the p4p scene i see stunners daily and i'm using the bangkok standards. next door to my son's school is the pbac business school and i love going early sitting in the car and watching them come out and thinking if i was single what i would love to do to them. last week after nearly 10 years i was able to venture down to walking street and saw much more than i expected. not everything i saw were stunners but at the same time i didn't have to rush to the 7/11 to buy bags to cover their heads.
what i surmise these days about pattaya and about women looks that are being mentioned here on the board is mainly about p4p. that guys come for short periods for business or vacation and expect to find every women to be a stunner and that's impossible. when you're here just enjoying the life daily you see stunners everyday and they aren't 4's! at least not yet! i'm getting old but i'm not blind yet!
for those of you that hate pattaya or had a bad experience good! don't come back! more for the rest of us and at cheaper prices!
lbm
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...Anyway, I'm sure you and I have quite different tastes. So, my condemnation of the dark lovelies of Patts comes from my rather un-Farang view of what constitutes Thai beauty...[/QUOTE]
Actually, I believe we probably have much the same tastes. First and foremost, we both love beautiful women, and Thailand produces them in abundance. I've seen the photo's you post, and those women are very lovely indeed. But perhaps you forget that girls come to Pattaya from all over Thailand and I see many many light skinned beauties of the sort you and I prefer, both good girls and p4p. They are not all of the dark skinned monkey faced variety you deplore.
Where we differ, I think, is you want a girlfriend/wife, and I want to be free as the wind in the LOS. I've sampled some of the beautiful good girls and found that I'm just not up to bullshitting them about what they want in order to get what I want, which is nothing more than good sex when I want it. It's not fair to them or to me. I like to be alone 99% of the time. This means that I'm restricted to p4p while you have the benefit of your situation to enjoy a variety of good girls. Perhaps your girls are prettier than mine. I suppose they are. But I'm sure not complaining. I'm getting my share. :)
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Actually, I believe we probably have much the same tastes. First and foremost, we both love beautiful women, and Thailand produces them in abundance. I've seen the photo's you post, and those women are very lovely indeed. But perhaps you forget that girls come to Pattaya from all over Thailand and I see many many light skinned beauties of the sort you and I prefer, both good girls and p4p. They are not all of the dark skinned monkey faced variety you deplore.
Where we differ, I think, is you want a girlfriend/wife, and I want to be free as the wind in the LOS. I've sampled some of the beautiful good girls and found that I'm just not up to bullshitting them about what they want in order to get what I want, which is nothing more than good sex when I want it. It's not fair to them or to me. I like to be alone 99% of the time. This means that I'm restricted to p4p while you have the benefit of your situation to enjoy a variety of good girls. Perhaps your girls are prettier than mine. I suppose they are. But I'm sure not complaining. I'm getting my share. :)[/QUOTE]
I'm just being a bit contankerous. Firstly, I don't hate Patts nearly as much as I make out. I don't think I could live there. But, it's good for the occasional weekend away with my buddies, just for something different. As far as my girls being prettier than yours...as a good friend of mine always says when I pontificate a little too much..."They're ALL fashion models in the dark". BTW, occasionally I like some earthy brown meat, instead of all that refined white meat, all the time, again for something different. The beauty is, one can have it all here.
final note on food: I wasn't suggesting that people are going to get sick on street food immediately. My issue with it is negatvie long-term health effects. I sat in a taxi today on Phetchaburi Road and watched as office people lined up for food that was being repeatedly belched on by an old bus. Just imagine the crap falling on all those moo ping on the grill.
But, then again, one could get murdered by the Russian mafia or run over by a baht bus tomorrow. And just breathing BKK air every day is probably slowly killing me. So, maybe I'll throw caution to the wind and go get some mango somtam ;), khanom jeen and a chunk of kai yang on soi 22 for dinner.
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[QUOTE=Giotto]Daddy07,
Hmmm, I think I feel the irony in your words ... :)
Anyway, I tried to write my report as unbiased as possible - I never liked Pattaya, so I am biased, for sure.
I definitely find the providers quality low there, compared to Bangkok. This has a lot to do with the type of bars I visited, the way the girls are dressed, the way they behave, the way they carry themselves - not my thing. But - to each his own. There are obviously lots of customers which like this style…[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I appreciate that you were up front about your bias. And I hope that you will continue submitting reports about Pattaya and any other subjects you like. Your posts, though sometimes biased just like mine, are always interesting and informative.
Bangkok is a major world business center and huge cosmopolitan city. Pattaya is a resort destination by the sea. Pattaya caters to vacationing tourists while Bangkok is more oriented to the business crowd. So maybe the bar girls in Bangkok, especially on soi 33, will be found wearing cocktail dresses and high heel pumps, while the Pattaya bar princesses are mostly dressed in tight shorts, jeans, t-shirts, and tennis shoes. Perhaps the lounge ladies of BKK have better educations overall, better manners, and more sophistication in their behavior, but one thing is certain – they are all hookers and money is their primary motivation. They don’t like their johns any more, nor will their sexual performance be better, just because he’s a business man as opposed to a tourist or expat.
So the question for the monger – for me at least -- is whether the attractive Bangkok soi 33 bar hostess is worth 3 or 4 times the price of the pretty Pattaya go-go dancer for the same pop. Am I going to use my time chatting with her about free trade agreements and world politics before banging her doggy style, or will I be satisfied with whispering sweet nothings to each other before and during the lovemaking?
I’m biased too, and I’ve make my considered choice.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]...Am I going to use my time chatting with her about free trade agreements and world politics before banging her doggy style, or will I be satisfied with whispering sweet nothings to each other before and during the lovemaking?
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LOL, good one!
Bangkok is not only Soi 33.
If you expect that you can talk about "free trade agreements and world politics" with the girls here from Soi 33, only because they wear cocktail dresses - you will be surprised about the outcome. You will only see questionmarks in their eyes ("What the hell does this guy want from me? When will he talk business?" = Pay the bar fine and me and take me doggy style, that we get over it and I can go home to sleep!).
Anyway - your POV is absolutely understandable and ok for me.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Giotto]...("What the hell does this guy want from me? When will he talk business?" = Pay the bar fine and me and take me doggy style, that we get over it and I can go home to sleep!)...[/QUOTE]
Hilarious!!
And so universally true in both Bangkok and Pattaya! :D
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OTH,
I understand your point when it comes to food. For the longest of time when I was visiting Thailand I never touch the street food. But now that I'm living here longer I find it hard not to. Most of my wife close friends all make their living operating food stalls at our local market so it's kind of hard to refuse their offerings.
In the U.S. there are many pesticiles that are banded but as we become more of a global economy we are importing more products from all over the world and like many I wonder what does the U.S. make? I'm not surprise the last few years of lead problem from China, etc... and recently problems with contamination of fruits and vegetables like tomatoes in the U.S. In Thailand, in the local markets I see so many fruits and vegetables that look so fresh but I wonder how they are being grown? I could drive myself crazy thinking? of the what's and if's! but now that I'm living here what real choice do I have except to use my common sense and as my friends and family say to me daily " relax " but as each nights comes and I go to sleep I think about the cancer growing inside or the heart attack I'm about to have from all the shit that I'm eating. My dad died when he was 85 and he smoked 2 packs a day and drank, my mother is now 90 and going strong. I come from good genes but living here in Thailand if it's not the food, it's the lead coming from all the cheap pots and pans they use to cook their food in. If it's not this it's that!
Either way I'm here and making the best of it and thankfully from time to time I get to go out and get a good 2 hours oil massage with some action before I have to go home and clean house or pick up the kid. Here in Thailand waiting to die by what I'm not sure!
LBM
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i think he meant the restaurant "chillis". none of those in pattaya. but there are a few steakhouses. closest you will get to "american' quisine will be mcdonalds, kfc and pizza hut (no dennys, outback, etc). just keep an open mind about the food. and try various eateries till you find what works for you.
as for the transportation. depends on where you will be staying. if you get a hotel anywhere on beach road or 3rd road, the baht bus will pretty much be all the transportation you need for mongering. if you plan on 'touring the countryside', all you need to rent a vehicle is your passport. but be forewarned. the police 'target' visitors and will fine you for the most minor of infractions (no helmet, seat belt, etc). also the parking is confusing at times (one side of the road on tue, thur, sun. etc). if you are hard-set on getting a vehicle for whatever reason, i would recommend 1-2 days at max.
as for being black. not really an issue there. skin color is a secondary (or tertiary) factor (first being money, second being age). if you are semi-attractive and young. (28 is considered young there), you will do fine. trust me.
for the water-activities. i have to agree with the other posters and advise against it. the water at pattaya bay/harbor is not akin to swimming/diving, etc. let me put it this way. i was on a ship that went to phuket (not pattaya, but i'm sure the policy is the same). well. thailand wanted to charge $20, 000/day to use their barge (for human waste and 'grey water' shower, sink, etc); but the fine to just 'pump it over the side' was $10, 000/day. so, guess what we did. and the ship was only like 2-3 miles off shore. so, its your decision, but i won't be going in the water close to the bay.
anywho. thats bout all the advise i can give. as for the gyms/whatnot. not sure on those, but if you search the forums, i am sure you can find some good gouge.
[quote=mortman]1. although all kinds of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] are freely available in pattaya, personally i would not want to swim in and around pattaya. the water here is quite dirty and polluted and there are much nicer places in thailand if that is your primary focus. you can take boat trips out to a couple of the islands off pattaya, where the water quality is better.
2. as thai learner said, if pattaya is your primary destination and this is your first visit, i would strongly advise against hiring a car here. traffic can be almost as busy as bangkok and cars drive on the left hand side here (some would argue the correct side! ) if you really want to get around with some freedom, hire a motorcycle. a scooter here will set you back around 1000 baht for one week and the machines are generally very new. it is a good way to explore pattaya by yourself and quite safe so long as you don't try to ride whislt drunk. if you go outside of pattaya in a car especially in and around bangkok, the roads can be very confusing even with a good map.
3. if you are renting a car then i would recommend an international licence. i don't know about the us but in the uk they are easy to get and cost very little. in thailand it is a requirement to have an international licence and whilst it is almost never going to be an issue with a motorcycle, if you get stopped on a freeway driving a car, the cops will expect you to have one, and you are likely to be fined if you don't.
4. the advice you have been given previously is correct. chillis are part of the staple diet here in thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
5. you are completely safe here alone, in fact i feel much safer here than i do in many us and uk cities, even at night. like anywhere you need to exercise standard precautions but pattaya is very very safe.
6. there are many many gyms here. many of the larger 4 and 5 star hotels have fitness rooms and there are at least 10 hard core bodybuilding gyms in and around pattaya. just ask the hotel receptionist and th
ey will find the nearest one to wherever you want to stay. incidentally anabolic steroids of all descriptions are freely available from the pharmacies here, if that is your thing.
7. thai people can be funny when it comes to race. there has been much discussion about this subject on other threads in the thailand forum. where you do encounter racism it tends to be done very discreetly, for example a bar girl will say she is not feeling well rather than go with you. don't let this put you off though, the power of money here is all that matters and there are many people coming here from the middle east, so people are getting used to other races rather than just white farang. i have never seen any overt racism and it will not be a problem for you i am sure.
8. bangkok is interesting in its own right and i suggest you read the bkk thread.
9. virtually all hotels are girl friendly in pattaya and it simply would be commercial suicide for them here if they stopped being girl friendly. [/quote]
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the dangers of living
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan] Here in Thailand waiting to die by what I'm not sure!LBM[/QUOTE]
GAWD! Even I wasn't that grim. :)
I hope you're joking a little.
But, I will say that, the longer I live here the more aware I become of the dangers. You're right. If it's not this it's that. Thinking about it could drive you crazy. The lack of checks and balances and the overall unregulated chaos of Thailand, the thing that is often cited as one of the attractive features of the place is also the thing that could eventually do one in.
My current beef is with the healthcare in this country. I had knee surgery 4 1/2 months ago, have continued to have post-op problems and have finally been told by my usual doc at Bangkok Hospital that the surgeon at the hospital where I had it done botched the job. BTW, I didn't have the surgery at Bangkok Hospital as I wanted, because their prices for such things have become obscene since they expanded and started catering to rich arabs. The price I was quoted there was over twice as much as it would cost in the US ($11,000 here as opposed to $4500 in the US). Bumrungrad wasn't much better. My insurance simply didn't cover it and the university where I work forced me to have the surgery at the teaching hospital at the uni. It was not a great experience, all around. Even the nurses were ugly! :D
I realize of course that the botched job could happen in the States, too. But, there they have malpractice insurance. There's not much protection here. So, if there's some screw up by the doctor, you have little recourse. You could sue. But, even if you won, you'd likely end up with a paltry sum. The current payout for wrongful death is a pitiful 300,000 baht. So, what would a bad knee job be worth? maybe, 10,000 baht? :) Fortunately, I will eventually be ok. But, it's going to take at least a year and a strict regimin of diet, physio and exercise to get my leg back to normal.
If one thinks about this total lack of accountability in all aspects of living here, Thailand does become somewhat less attractive than it first appeared to be.
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Mick-
Sorry if you didn't appreciate my satire. If you don't find it funny, don't laugh. It wasn't ironic or sarcastic so much as observational. Having eaten in open air restaurants along Beach Road, I have seen the residue on the table. I have seen the roasting chickens right next to Sukhumvit. One good thing is that for every one person that takes exception to my report, one hundred will see it and think twice about the source of their next meal. As Ayn Rand said in 'The Fountainhead', 'A man will eat the cleanest food possible'.
I am perhaps more cautious of dirt and microbes, but this doesn't deter me from kissing girls or sucking their poosies. I do like to shower with them so I can get a soapy finger up in that thang, not withstanding that I still have had the occasional throat irritation. But, a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do, and I gotta get down on that thang.
You may be right about seeking Psychiatric treatment, not so much about my style of writing as my 13 year residence here in Pattaya. I often ask myself, "What am I doing here in the Land Of Starfish? ".
Khun Talung
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S T R E E T___f O O D
"That which does not KILL YOU makes you STRONGER!"
(in my best faux Gerrrman accent) :)
Actually, the places with very fast turn around or even cook it front of you have less likelihood of making you sick. I do seem to get a bit concerned with "dish washing" though (or rather "attempted dish washing" would be a better term)
mai ben rai
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[quote=mjjudd]i think he meant the restaurant "chillis". none of those in pattaya. but there are a few steakhouses. closest you will get to "american' quisine will be mcdonalds, kfc and pizza hut (no dennys, outback, etc). just keep an open mind about the food. and try various eateries till you find what works for you.[/quote]i suggest trying bob's bbq for anyone looking for good food. he has got tex-mex, bbq, and a very good burger. the bonus is that bob's is located on soi lk metro next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and near hell club so a hungry monger can be fully satisfied after a visit to this neighborhood.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]
These establishments have customers, Giotto, because men from certain countries, such as England, Germany, and the US do not have access to sex in their homelands. They come to Thailand and a few other destinations because these are the only places where they can have easy access to sex.
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Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I'm just being a bit contankerous. Firstly, I don't hate Patts nearly as much as I make out. I don't think I could live there. But, it's good for the occasional weekend away with my buddies, just for something different. As far as my girls being prettier than yours...as a good friend of mine always says when I pontificate a little too much..."They're ALL fashion models in the dark". BTW, occasionally I like some earthy brown meat, instead of all that refined white meat, all the time, again for something different. The beauty is, one can have it all here.
final note on food: I wasn't suggesting that people are going to get sick on street food immediately. My issue with it is negatvie long-term health effects. I sat in a taxi today on Phetchaburi Road and watched as office people lined up for food that was being repeatedly belched on by an old bus. Just imagine the crap falling on all those moo ping on the grill.
But, then again, one could get murdered by the Russian mafia or run over by a baht bus tomorrow. And just breathing BKK air every day is probably slowly killing me. So, maybe I'll throw caution to the wind and go get some mango somtam ;), khanom jeen and a chunk of kai yang on soi 22 for dinner.[/QUOTE]
Well said! I am done mongering in Bangkok. It's overpriced, and you don't get the same service as you would from the girls in Pattaya. I live here, and instead of wasting my money in this horrid city I just get out once a month to Pattaya and pull girls there. The businessmen can have their overpriced *****s.
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No sex your British!!!
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?[/QUOTE]
Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out [url]www.sandyssuperstars.com/[/url].
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out [url]www.sandyssuperstars.com/[/url].[/QUOTE]
Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.
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Here...try this place....the intensity of the sexual experience would rival Thailand any day of the week;
[url]http://www.aboutus.org/Planet-Happy-Garden.info[/url]
....better sauna experience than is availalbe anywhere in Thailand....lounging on the lawn with semi-naked beauties in summer, legitimate business with health checks and licenses.....
(food, weather, cost of living.....all different stories...but that was not the subject)
Opebo....from reading your posts...better you stay in Thailand!!
P.S. The "gear" on those "Sandy's" girls would be very hard to beat. I always try to achieve that look when in Thailand by buying the gear for a long term keeper from a local lingerie shop......but they never seem to achieve the full look....and "keep the shoes on in bed" seems to bring a strange look in Asia...while in Germany it is expected!!
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UK MP's v Thai MP's
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.[/QUOTE]
Also sorry for the probable non relevance but its all mongering related. Agreed that Sandy's has a tremendous internet site and is slightly higher priced because of this but the quality of the surroundings and the pornstar/centrefold nature of the girls are second to none. I must admit I'm a big fan. Before I returned home to the Philippines from a visit to UK recently, I paid a visit and had an absolutely tremendous hour with a young Yorkshire blonde Minx called Kirsty, which was the equal or better than any ST experience in the Far East. For a bit cheaper but even more raunchy experience in less salubrious surroundings, I would recommend Arabesque in Bury (and also Bolton) and Executive Lounge on the other side of the Pennines in grotty Hull! Check out my reviews under the same handle on *********. I am a big adherent of the MP scene in UK where quality and vfm are second to none in the top parlours. Probably not as good (or as cheap) as a soapy/oily in Bangkok/Pattaya but not far off and a completely refreshing change.
P.S Sorry I'm not supposed to mention the top punter related site in UK although it has a completely different remit than this;)
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Fake Police
There seem to be a recent increase in the number of crime related incidents involving fake Police Officers in Pattaya; this one is a lot more painful than some of the others. Ouch!
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Construction Worker shot in the groin by 4 men dresses as Police Officers.
[i] In the early hours of Saturday Morning, Police Lieutenant Choosak from Banglamung Police Station made his way to a Constructors Campsite located near the train track in Naklua to investigate a shooting. Khun Surachai aged 28 was injured in the shooting and rushed to Hospital. Through the pain he was able to explain to Police that he was awoken by the sound of a Cockerel. He woke up and went to use the Toilet. On the way he spotted 4 men who were apparently wearing uniforms similar to Police Officers. One of the men approached Khun Surachai and told him to go back to bed as they were in the process of purchasing Yabba Tablets as part of an undercover Police operation. Khun Surachai was suspicious of the men and did not comply. One of them then produced a gun in anger and shot him in his groin area. Police confirmed that no such undercover operation was taking place in the area at the time and suspect the men were not Police Officers or volunteers, however all possible avenues of investigation are being explored at this time as Police hunt for the shooter and his accomplices.[/i]
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Ask the Beach Road lady to leave her ID at the hotel desk
[QUOTE=Run Mann][i]Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.[/i][/quote]
Most hotels in Pattaya require that the lady leave her Identification Card at the hotel desk, when she goes inside the room with her man.
A lot of farangs ignore this rule. And the hotel mangement often doesn't enforce it. But if you want to stay safe. Then make sure your lady leaves her ID at the hotel desk.
When other people know who she is. And the police can easily trace her. Then even the criminally inclined ladies probably won't try to take advantage of you.
All adult Thais are supposed to have this ID, which is issued by the Thai government. And virtually all Thais carry this ID with them. Because simply not having this ID can lead to arrest by Thai police.
When you take a lady from a beer-bar. Then perhaps you can ignore this rule about leaving the lady's ID at the hotel desk. Because people at the bar know who she is and how to find her. But when you take a lady from the Walking Street or the Beach Road. Then finding her in case of trouble is a lot harder. And with these ladies you definitely should insist that they leave their ID at the hotel desk.
But besides being drugged at your hotel room. There have been cases of farangs being drugged at large crowded disco places, such as Marine Disco and others. And the best way to avoid trouble there is to avoid drinking anything.
And I say this based on my own experience. A long time ago I was at one of those Disco places with a group of freelancers, whom I've known for a few days. I didn't think twice about accepting a drink from one of them. Because by then I knew them relatively well. And it turned out that they did put something in my drink.
I was fortunate enough not to pass out there. Perhaps they didn't put enough stuff in my drink. And after they got tired of waiting for me to pass out. We all went back to our usual bar. Where a short time later I did pass out. But they didn't take anything from me because of all the witnesses there.
I wasn't completely fortunate though. Because after that incident I felt sick for 2 or 3 days. This knock-out stuff they put in your drink is not good for you. And you can even die from it, if they happen to put too much of it in your drink.
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Beer Garden
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]It is based on the famous Beer Garden on Soi 7 in Bangkok. Apparently the opening night in Pattaya was a huge success. Read about it [URL="http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/"]Pattaya Beer Garden[/URL].
Evil[/QUOTE]I visited the Beer Garden multiple times mid July. On low season it was disappointment. Absolutely no free lancers there and not that many customers either. It is good place to eat with nice ocean view if you already have company. It is good place to have a beer if you do not want any hassle from anybody. Including waitresses. I also liked their music video selection.
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OTH,
Back in the states for 2 months and I'm just getting over my jetlag. I didn't mean to sound so down but I had medical insurance all my life until the last 2 years. I do have a expat medical policy now but after all the research on medical coverage I'm not so sure how much it is going to cover if I ever get real sick.
I have always kept myself in real good shape but find myself now somewhat restricted particularly when I come back to the states. I have always enjoyed the snow and am a expert skier and can't even do that since I don't want to get hurt. The cost to go to the hospital just for a broken leg would take a big chuck from my savings since I don't get a pension right now. Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurance. Example, just last summer I got a infection under my arm and I couldn't take the pain any longer. I was considering flying back to Bangkok to get it taken care of but in the end had to go to the general hospital to take care it. In the end I didn't qualify for general assistance because I had too much money in the bank so I had to pay full price for the service. Two thousand bucks! If I had insurance they would have gladly taken 500.00 from the insurance company. If I had it done in Bangkok or Pattaya it would have cost me maybe 3,000 baht.
After all my research I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblown! Some of these hospitals seem topush so hard to make money to pay for all the upgrades in the hospitals are making recommendations for operations and procedure when they are not necessary. Now living in Thailand I eat Thai nearly everyday and I understand what you are all saying about where the food comes from and how it might be prepare and it could drive one crazy and that's what it is doing to me maybe but I don't have much choice. How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooling? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
Good luck to all and enjoy the food and I'll just have to learn to relax more in the LOS!
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblown[/QUOTE]The "tourism" part of medical tourism to Thailand is fine. It's the "medical" part that has the problems.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan].... How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooking? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
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I suggest you tell her that you like boiled food more than fried food. Boiling food does take a little more time and work. But she probably won't mind doing it, if you ask her nicely without criticising her cooking skills.
I've also had a problem with too much oil in my stir-fried food prepared by my Thai lady. So much oil doesn't taste good. And it is bad for your health.
But that's what you have to deal with when you choose your lady for her nice-looking body rather than for her good cooking skills.
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Dan7373,
Not her body but for her personalilty. She is a good cook but she isn't just cooking for me although I'm the only farang that is eating. She buys the proper cooking oil and the food taste so good but they seem to use so much of it when they cook. Have you ever seen how much oil is used to fry a egg?
It seems in the Thai culture asking nicely is exactly that, being critical! When it is my turn to cook I usually steam the vegetable but although I don't like my food too spicy I always spice it up with a small pepper and lots of garlic for the rest of the family. As for western food I use only olive oil. Basically it's a matter of education and working around the their style without unintentionally offending anyone.
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]OTH,
Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurancethe LOS!
LBM[/QUOTE]
The operation I had was the same as the one Tiger Woods just had. It's fairly routine and doesn't require staying in the hospital in the US. But, I had to stay in for 2 days here. I got the US quote off the Internet. My sister has also had the same operation in Canada, as well as 2 knee replacements and she told me the 350,000 baht quote from Bangkok Hospital was obscene. Bumrungrad quoted 150-180,000 - basically the same as the US quote. I eventually had it done at a govt. hospital for 84,000 by supposedly the top ortho surgeon in Thailand. My leg hasn't been the same since and I've been in and out of hospital for the last 6 months.
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Wtf
Has this forum gone to shit or what!!! leave the small talk to PM's and report useful information about chicks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Impressions of Pattaya
i have mongered a lot in asia and thailand but this is my first trip to pattaya. maybe my report will be of use to other first timers.
central pattaya (soi 7/8) seems to be more laid back and have less ladyboys than walking street. there are many, many beer bars and some go-gos. lots of ladies on beach road but i prefer the guarantee of a bar (not ladyboy, not ****, won't drug you or steal). i tried both beer bars and go-gos and both short time and long time. south pattaya/jomtien beach seems to be where the russians and middle-east people go.
girls - i was never disappointed with the performances of the girls, never had a problem, never had them try to leave early. i did find the quality of the bbbjs to be poor - shallow, not very long, rough. it seemd like the girls did not know how but thought they had to do it. one girl from a go-go was really good but she was an exception. the sex was good universally - multiple positions, full penetration, no complaining. overall, great sex but bjs weak.
fresh off the farm girls - it seems like there is a constant stream of girls coming to pattaya and many have only been here a few days and had a few customers. these girls are unspoiled, very sweet and gf, cuddle and hold you all night but of course they are inexperienced, especially with bjs.
i found all of the girls honest, clean and nice people. i do go for the clean look though - no tats, smoking piercing and stay away from the hardened looking ones.
prices seemed very standardized barfine at beer bar = 300bt, go-go=600bt. girls ask for 1000bt st and 2000lt but you can negotiate down. i found it a good idea to make friends with the mama-sans (buy her a drink) and ask for her advice. they want repeat customers and happy customers and will help you pick the right girl.
i found the beer bars not pushy. you have to buy a drink once in a while but the girls generally don't beg for drinks. beers go from 40-100bt depending on the place and kind of beer. lady drinks seemd to be about 110bt. the girls drink slow and don't pressure you. i never got ripped off.
pattaya is cheap. you can get a decent hotel for 1000bt and and all you can eat quality buffet for 200bt. you can have the hotel do your laundry for a few hundred baht. all day trip to coral isalnd including lunch is 350bt. you can get laid for 300bt from a beach road girl or 1300bt for a nice ber bar girl.
pattaya seemd like a great place for teh novice monger. cheap, safe, loads of girls, easy to get the girls, good sex.
eb
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Eric Burden, thanks for your report - I was not aware that short times were being priced at 1,000 baht. In Pattaya I've only ever paid 500 per short time basic fee, not including tips for extra services.
In fact I had three in one day recently, and they were of interest: first I had a very good-looking busty twenty year old from the Beach Road. She refused to do blow job at all(!), and was so tight I could not enter her more than a few inches, accompanied by a litany of complaint "jep! jep!". By the way, Burden, you are right a good BJ is a rarity in Asia. Anyway I paid off this cutie at 300 baht, a 200 baht discount based on the fact that she could do nothing and no orgasm was achieved.
I then picked up a horrible old munter thinking therefore service would be good and I could have a good deep rough fuck. Alas this one turned out to be one of those rare crazy ones. I had a terrible feeling when she touched my head as we waited at the short time hotel desk. Brothers if any Thai girl touches your head, ditch her immediately. It is an insult. Upstairs this girl argued with me incessantly, provided a ridiculously bad BJ for an old bag, and when I jumped up to leave grabbed me by my boxers till I coughed up a few hundred baht. What a monster.
Finally I picked up an attractive old (but twenty-something) regular - they're getting rarer and rarer as the cops throw them in jail - and had a great BJ and intercourse for 500, finally achieving much needed release.
Interestingly all the girls said the cops were interfering a lot, particularly from 8:00 PM to midnight. Not many girls around. I almost resorted to going to bars but I couldn't really figure out which ones to go to - the idea of sitting for 15 minutes in a place where there are only 10 girls always seemed crazy to me.
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russian and thai top models
Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things in Pattaya:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help!
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Has this forum gone to shit or what!!! leave the small talk to PM's and report useful information about chicks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]Hmm...
OK, go ahead, you start, write your report!
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Passepartout]Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things in Pattaya:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]You can stay at HOTEL GRACE at Sukhumvit-4. You can get all the russian as well as Thai Models also. have a good trip to Thailand.
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Eric,
Thanks for the comments on Central Pattaya. I was in Pattaya back in May and pretty much limited my time to Walking Street. I will be returning in October and intend to branch out a bit to other parts (Soi's 2, 6, 7, 8), so any info on these areas is helpful to me.
Thanks
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Hummer Bird,
Cool your wings! You never know when you might trip, fall out of bed while you are getting a good or lousy BJ, or just running away from a ladyboy and break your leg or twist your knee and might just need medical service in Pattaya!
OTH, the price seems low! I've had to knee operations in the mid 80's and had a crack knee cap in the mid 90's and the bill then was way more than you quoted and I had medical insurance and what the hospital and doctors agree to accept was way more than that! I had 2 minor scope on the same knee a few years ago just to clean up the floating fragments and didn't even stay overnight. Operation room, the doctor's and nurses just to put me alsleep and to recover before I went home was over 10,000. To stay overnight in a hospital in the U.S. for 1 night is 10,000 U.S. But for the sake of Hummer Bird let just move on and respectfully agree to disagree! I just wish you the best on your recovery.
The problem I'm starting to find out as you indicated in Thailand concerning medical is that the life of a person isn't worth a hell of a lot. There are few consumer laws that are available or enforced. The best hospital are pushing services on farang that aren't really necessary so that they can pay for all the glitter they have build and are making rcommendations for unnecessary medical procedure. When hospitals are telling you that you can stay for 2 nights and get the 3rd one free something is really wrong! In the last 2 years when I was home in the states my wife had to check into the Bangkok/Pattaya hospital for a simple gas reflux problem. They had her stay overnight on both ocassions just for observation the cost was 18,000 baht to the hospital from the insurance company. When I came back this February I took the bill to the hospital adminitration and question them why she was required to stay overnight since she had no bleeding etc... and given no long term medication and education to prevent this from happening again in the future. Their lack of response was clear to me that the only reason stay overnight was so that the hospital can make money!
Although, Thailand medical services are much better than others country but if the government doesn't provide some strict regulations in the future you are going to see lots more abuse from these hospitals. The price you quoted in Thailand for a simple scope seems to be the norm from my research in Pattaya for the Bangkok/Pattaya hospital and in Siracha Hospital. The key as in your situation is finding a doctor that can explain the problem and procedure in proper english and doesn't screw up a simple procedure.
For the sake of Hummer Bird after this I'll move our conversation to the Living in Thailand thread.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Opebo]...I almost resorted to going to bars but I couldn't really figure out which ones to go to - the idea of sitting for 15 minutes in a place where there are only 10 girls always seemed crazy to me.[/QUOTE]
When looking for a beer bar girl, the idea is to stroll slowly past the open air bars without sitting down, and thus commiting yourself, just looking for something friendly and cute.
When you find a likely prospect, (sometimes after checking out several bars and many areas), then you sit down to chat with her. If she's responsive to your interest and you like her, then you buy her a drink and begin negotiating terms.
If she agrees to suck your dick, but declines your more dangerous request for bare-back intercourse, only then must you decide whether the lass is worth your effort. :)
Sorry about your old hag experience. I stay away from them no matter what they promise to do. :D
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Pattaya branch of Exit seems remarkably busy!!
Forgive me if I broach a subject that seems a little morbid but scanning through the back news reports on Pattaya One News, I was struck by the number of Falang suicides in the Pattaya area. Usually 1-2 a week (sometimes more) and most often by hanging, drugs overdose or somersault with pike and splat from a high building. Firstly I thought it must be high natural wastage amongst mongers as by default there are many fairly desperate, sad and vulnerable characters amongst the Pattaya expat crowd.
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface. We all know that life is pretty cheap in the LOS and for a few thousand baht it is easy, if you know the right people, to arrange a hit. And of course it is much less likely to attract police attention if its a 'suicide'.
Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on (not that they would be particularly concerned about the early demise of a few foreigners anyway).
Watch out for yourselves out there, lads.
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[QUOTE=Ronisoni]You can stay at HOTEL GRACE at Sukhumvit-4. You can get all the russian as well as Thai Models also. have a good trip to Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Russian "models"? OK this must be irony.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Forgive me if I broach a subject that seems a little morbid but scanning through the back news reports on Pattaya One News, I was struck by the number of Falang suicides in the Pattaya area. Usually 1-2 a week (sometimes more) and most often by hanging, drugs overdose or somersault with pike and splat from a high building. Firstly I thought it must be high natural wastage amongst mongers as by default there are many fairly desperate, sad and vulnerable characters amongst the Pattaya expat crowd.
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface. We all know that life is pretty cheap in the LOS and for a few thousand baht it is easy, if you know the right people, to arrange a hit. And of course it is much less likely to attract police attention if its a 'suicide'.
Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on (not that they would be particularly concerned about the early demise of a few foreigners anyway).
Watch out for yourselves out there, lads.[/QUOTE]Do you think its some kind of blackmailing involved?
Bargirls involved? Broken Heart?
I have also been struck by the numbers of so called suicide by farangs in the Pattaya news.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news_25_07_51_2.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on.[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid you're being completely realistic. Unless the police have reason to believe these things aren't suicides, e.g. someone raising a fuss and publicly demanding an investigation, they're hardly about to increase their workload. 'Suicide' is the easiest option for everyone.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface.
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What's your definition of high? Try comparing the number of suicides with the actual number of foreign residents/visitors in Pattaya and these suicide and suspicious deaths rates have more to do with availability bias than being high. The police may not want to intentionally suppress the suicide numbers; they just don't seem to care much. However, with their limited recourses and attitude towards some foreigners no one should expend them to conduct any type of extensive investigation into a Falang’s death. Aside from their character or lack of character, these deaths do seem to be connected in some way their relationship with these sweet or not so sweet young things these guys thought they had only to discover the truth later.
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[QUOTE=Passepartout]Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]
CM2 nightclub in the Novotel Hotel on Siam Square, expect to pay 5000 baht upwards depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]CM2 nightclub in the Novotel Hotel on Siam Square, expect to pay 5000 baht upwards depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night.[/QUOTE]Why go to Thailand to find ruusian girls?Go to Russia, Ukraine ets.
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[QUOTE=Passepartout]Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things in Pattaya:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]
1. DO you want both or just in Pattaya? Pattaya is about 100miles from Bangkok. In Pattaya try Galaxy Cabaret but becareful they will try and rip you off.
2. Just have a good look around and also try some of the go gos you will find them or they will find you.
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NO Nauty Girls
June 5.
I picked a girl out of Nauhty Girls, and had a drink w/ her at Lucifers. All was good. Then I ordered a second round and she went to the wc, after a few minutes she didn't return, and I looked around??? All was OK w/ us!
So I walked around and no girl! Went back to NGs. and they called her!!!
No I don't want girl back, I want 600baht back!
Returned next day, and they say she is fired, doesn't work there any more. I ask for $ back and they offer other girl no charge!!!
NG for me! No refund, exchange only!!! I left Thailand next day;-(
Brit owner out of town!
Rip off,
John
I returned for new trip on Aug 26, and guess what, first stop NAUGHTY GIRLS. THIS TIME MANAGER IN HOUSE, BUT ALAS Time expired!!!!!!!! Also the Mamason confirmed my story!!!!!
He told me it was too long ago!
I told him I came back the same night and next day after! But NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!?!?!
To Make the situation laughable, At 3:30am same night(first night this trip) who do I see in Insomnia disco But skinny Peow, The dissapering girl! I spoke w/ disappering girl and she offered a session, but NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. I'm not stupid.
My final thought, avoid Naughty girls. I don't think they are a bad GO GO bar, but, Let the buyer beware??? or Bar fines are NOT a guarante!!!
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]1. DO you want both or just in Pattaya? Pattaya is about 100miles from Bangkok. In Pattaya try Galaxy Cabaret but becareful they will try and rip you off.
2. Just have a good look around and also try some of the go gos you will find them or they will find you.[/QUOTE]
Please, don't use this Galaxy Cabaret. I had a friend working there.....you will SURELY be ripped to the MAX!
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[QUOTE=Betong]I'm afraid you're being completely realistic. Unless the police have reason to believe these things aren't suicides, e.g. someone raising a fuss and publicly demanding an investigation, they're hardly about to increase their workload. 'Suicide' is the easiest option for everyone.[/QUOTE]
Thailand has one of the worst, most corrupt police forces in the entire world. Expect the worst from these criminals.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Thailand has one of the worst, most corrupt police forces in the entire world.[/QUOTE]
Bit of an overstatement, given the cops in much of Latin America, Africa, and elsewhere in Asia. Like where I am right now, the Philippines. Talk about thugs . . .
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[QUOTE=Romankh]Why go to Thailand to find ruusian girls?Go to Russia, Ukraine ets.[/QUOTE]
Someone asked where to find Russian girls in Bangkok, I told them.
Russia is far more expensive than Thailand, from hotel prices to girls, also it can be slightly cold in January. ?????
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Suicide is not so surprising among expats in Pattaya or Thailand in general. In most cases they run out of or lose their money and can't face the horrific prospect of returning to the life of working in their homeland. In a few cases they discover they have some socially condemned ailment. Generally speaking anyone rational enough to choose the Pattaya life is rational enough to check out when things get bad.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]CM2 nightclub in the Novotel Hotel on Siam Square, expect to pay 5000 baht upwards depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night.[/QUOTE]
I guess you are speaking about bnagkok...my question was for pattaya...
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[QUOTE=Romankh]Why go to Thailand to find ruusian girls?Go to Russia, Ukraine ets.[/QUOTE]
I live in Moscow.... The thing is that I will be for 10 days in thailand with my buddies... and I perfectly know that after 15 sweet little thai, I always needs something different....yes a russian babe!
It's always like, I 'm fed up after a certain time with thai girls... i am a man of all seasons...
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Please, don't use this Galaxy Cabaret. I had a friend working there.....you will SURELY be ripped to the MAX![/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot for the advice!!
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[QUOTE=Belmont]June 5.
I picked a girl out of Nauhty Girls, and had a drink w/ her at Lucifers. A[/QUOTE]
1.pay bar
2. take girl to room
3. bang her
4. pay her
5. go to lucifers alone
6. find another girl.
or skip 1-4 and go to 5.
No need byop to lucifers.
p.s. that girl is still a ****.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Bit of an overstatement, given the cops in much of Latin America, Africa, and elsewhere in Asia. Like where I am right now, the Philippines. Talk about thugs . . .[/QUOTE]
The key is "for a country of a fairly high state of development". I have lived all over the world and have experience in the places you note......but comparing the Philippines to Thailand as far as development goes, is not a good comparison. When someone sees a city like Bangkok....we tend to expect a police force which can be equated to a large developed city in Europe/Canada/America, etc. What we get are ignorant, dishonest, criminals with a large degree of endemic corruption.
Please see this article;
[url]http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11058580[/url]
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]When someone sees a city like Bangkok....we tend to expect a police force which can be equated to a large developed city in Europe/Canada/America, etc. What we get are ignorant, dishonest, criminals with a large degree of endemic corruption.[/QUOTE]
Thank goodness for this, for if the country were not so corrupt and dishonest in spite of its high level of development, the large-scale P4P industry would not have survived as long as it has.
My hometown had an efficient, honest, non-corrupt (though quite trigger-happy) police force. It was also very difficult and expensive to get laid there, and we ran the very real risk of arrest and prosecution.
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What Socially Condemned Ailment Will Lead A Cat To End His Life?
[QUOTE=Opebo]Suicide is not so surprising among expats in Pattaya or Thailand in general. In most cases they run out of or lose their money and can't face the horrific prospect of returning to the life of working in their homeland. In a few cases they discover they have some socially condemned ailment. Generally speaking anyone rational enough to choose the Pattaya life is rational enough to check out when things get bad.[/QUOTE]
What would be a socially condemned ailment? I remember a guy asking me did I want buy a Condo in A.C. I told him I like to visit the Zoo I don't want to live there.
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Thanks for the warning Belmont.
Gagoo and I will give this spot a miss.
[QUOTE=Belmont]June 5.
I picked a girl out of Nauhty Girls, and had a drink w/ her at Lucifers. All was good. Then I ordered a second round and she went to the wc, after a few minutes she didn't return, and I looked around??? All was OK w/ us!
So I walked around and no girl! Went back to NGs. and they called her!!!
No I don't want girl back, I want 600baht back!
Returned next day, and they say she is fired, doesn't work there any more. I ask for $ back and they offer other girl no charge!!!
NG for me! No refund, exchange only!!! I left Thailand next day;-(
Brit owner out of town!
Rip off,
John
I returned for new trip on Aug 26, and guess what, first stop NAUGHTY GIRLS. THIS TIME MANAGER IN HOUSE, BUT ALAS Time expired!!!!!!!! Also the Mamason confirmed my story!!!!!
He told me it was too long ago!
I told him I came back the same night and next day after! But NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!?!?!
To Make the situation laughable, At 3:30am same night(first night this trip) who do I see in Insomnia disco But skinny Peow, The dissapering girl! I spoke w/ disappering girl and she offered a session, but NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. I'm not stupid.
My final thought, avoid Naughty girls. I don't think they are a bad GO GO bar, but, Let the buyer beware??? or Bar fines are NOT a guarante!!![/QUOTE]
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Thai Suicide can = Homicide
[QUOTE=Opebo]Thank goodness for this, for if the country were not so corrupt and dishonest in spite of its high level of development, the large-scale P4P industry would not have survived as long as it has.
My hometown had an efficient, honest, non-corrupt (though quite trigger-happy) police force. It was also very difficult and expensive to get laid there, and we ran the very real risk of arrest and prosecution.[/QUOTE]
Germany has a large scale P4P industry and a police system (Landespolizei and Bundespolizei, Bundeskriminalamt, etc.) that are Ok for the most part (nothing is perfect!). The only problem I see in the legal P4P German FKk and Partytreff clubs is that the Police sometime conduct immigration control and deport foreign females who are not allowed to work in Germany and do not pay tax on their earnings. So, I believe you can have a good P4P system and a Police system that doesn't declare a suicide when a man's hands are tied behind his back as he swings from the noose.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]What would be a socially condemned ailment? I remember a guy asking me did I want buy a Condo in A.C. I told him I like to visit the Zoo I don't want to live there.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha .. good one Daddy. I cannot understand why anyone would like to even visit WC, I mean AC .... oh, I forgot, silly me, there is one reason!!
A socially condemned ailment sounds like a fair description of a mongering habit. GH
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]So, I believe you can have a good P4P system and a Police system that doesn't declare a suicide when a man's hands are tied behind his back as he swings from the noose.[/QUOTE]
Ah, but those suicidal Pattaya farangs can be so clever ;) .
No seriously, I agree with you, and I have a lot of respect for countries like Germany that are mature enough not to criminalize commercial sex. But just to be fair, I think we should point out that the average farang on the street here has little to fear from the Thai cops, apart from the occasional invitation to contribute to the Benevolent Fund. Manage to get yourself killed though, and 'justice' becomes a very dubious concept indeed.
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[QUOTE=Passepartout]I live in Moscow.... The thing is that I will be for 10 days in thailand with my buddies... and I perfectly know that after 15 sweet little thai, I always needs something different....yes a russian babe!
It's always like, I 'm fed up after a certain time with thai girls... i am a man of all seasons...[/QUOTE]
You could get your Russian ladies when you get back home. I'm sure it would cost less there. There are Russian girls working in a bar here, but last year the price for one of these girls was really high. If possible, you can try a few days in one of the neighboring countries.
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[QUOTE=Gagoo]You could get your Russian ladies when you get back home. I'm sure it would cost less there. There are Russian girls working in a bar here, but last year the price for one of these girls was really high. If possible, you can try a few days in one of the neighboring countries.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering -- everyone always says the cost of a Russian girl from... what, Galaxy?... is really high, but haven't seen anyone mention what it actually costs. Just curious. Do you know? Anyone?
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Just wondering -- everyone always says the cost of a Russian girl from... what, Galaxy?... is really high, but haven't seen anyone mention what it actually costs. Just curious. Do you know? Anyone?[/QUOTE]
From 20 to 50.000 bath...100% not worth it. I just heard it , I never been with one of those galaxi's superstar. If you really want to try something different , once you in Thailand , I suggest u to go to Spasso disco or Mc2 in Bangkok.You're gonna pay 2.500 or 5.000 bath for a decent eastern girl.
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Thanks for the information.
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Certainly not 20,000-50,000 baht. If that was the case you can take the bus to BKK stay overnight and go to spasso and still come out ahead. The rate is more like 5,000 baht and that depends on the girl. I personally would never pay that price but coming from the U.S. I do once in a while think and want a change but at that rate I personally wouldn't pay it. I've had many Russians in Macua in the past and I never felt or even came close to a GFE. In 1999, I bump into 2 russians girls outside of Tiffany and one of them had big boobs and the other great legs and I took them back to my hotel and had a twosome and the cost was only 3500 baht then and the service wasn't bad either. It was a situation that happen that I couldn't pass up! In Pattaya certainly not 20/50,000.
LBM
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Galaxi
[QUOTE=Passepartout]Thanks for the information.[/QUOTE]
Actually those girls don't go out with normal mongers but rich thais and arabs...I never see one of these girls hangin' around with regular farangs.
If you live in Moscow and you can speak some russian , take a look upstairs...You might be lucky.
My suggestion remains the same anyway : MC2 , Spasso (both in Bkk).
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Greetings to one and all
Gday Mongers,
Grassys the name and going to Pattaya soon will be my game. Could anybody help a newbie with advice on where to purchase Viagra or Cialis in Pattaya. Iam travelling there soon for a week and am looking foreward to a week of activities.
Thanks,
Grassy
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Russians
The only Russian I ever had in Thailand was on Sukhhumvit and Soi 7/1, and she only cost me 1,000 baht for short time bareback. Of course she wasn't very attractive, but I've seen much worse from the former USSR. At least she had huge breasts - not my thing, but an amusing novelty.
I think if anyone is asking you for more than, say, 2,000 baht, you're pretty much gauranteed to have a bad time with them.
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Viagra
[QUOTE=Grassy]Gday Mongers,
Grassys the name and going to Pattaya soon will be my game. Could anybody help a newbie with advice on where to purchase Viagra or Cialis in Pattaya. Iam travelling there soon for a week and am looking foreward to a week of activities.
Thanks,
Grassy[/QUOTE]
Any pharmacy in the likely areas will have it. Just ask, they've got plenty. You can get the real stuff or generic. Penegra - should be around 300 bht for 4 tabs
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat 2]Comeon! Admit it! As if I'm the only one! I know you cheap old men have been tempted to do it. You guys on your, what? , 30, 000 baht pensions. Maybe you feel afraid that the girl will come after your frail old body and you can't run away?
I always scam the girls out of their money now. I'm 27, so I think I can easily outsmart them (and outrun them too). Last time I was living like a king on 2, 000 baht a day. Sex every day, drinking every day. The works.[/QUOTE]
27 my arse :D:
[url]www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96006[/url]
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Cheap Meat gets banned for his repulsive behavior, scamming girls, leaving them on the side on the road in the middle of nowhere, and comes back as "Cheap Meat 2".
This guy is really smart.............
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]27 my arse :D:
[url]www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96006[/url][/QUOTE]
Maybe I should ask some friends at The Nation to publish this pic with a caveat for every women in LOS. ;)
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]From 20 to 50.000 bath...100% not worth it. I just heard it , I never been with one of those galaxi's superstar. If you really want to try something different , once you in Thailand , I suggest u to go to Spasso disco or Mc2 in Bangkok.You're gonna pay 2.500 or 5.000 bath for a decent eastern girl.[/QUOTE]
That would be about $600 - $1500 US? That can't be correct.
I've been to CM2 a few times, never to Spasso's. Where is it? I might be tempted to try a Russian if one seemed worth it, even for as much as 5,000 (if that was for at least a couple hours and more than one go). And again, this would have to be that kind that you just can't pass up. Must admit I haven't seen a Russian in that category yet in Bangkok. Not in CM2 and surely not at Grace.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]That would be about $600 - $1500 US? That can't be correct.
I've been to CM2 a few times, never to Spasso's. Where is it? I might be tempted to try a Russian if one seemed worth it, even for as much as 5,000 (if that was for at least a couple hours and more than one go). And again, this would have to be that kind that you just can't pass up. Must admit I haven't seen a Russian in that category yet in Bangkok. Not in CM2 and surely not at Grace.[/QUOTE]
In April of 2007 I went upstairs to visit a friend that was working at Galaxy (not P4P)....I sat down and got a drink. I talked to my friend for a few minutes and asked her how this deal worked. I am not a rich Thai or Arab. She told me (I am not 100% sure....but close)...that it was around 5,000 b for the "escort" and that a separate deal had to be worked out with the girl for any sexual service. I also asked how much this could run. She said she wasn't sure but heard the girls ask for around 10,000 b. This might be the price before negotiating. Of course, if you are a movie star...then maybe 5,000 b more and a typical Pattaya dude....10,000-20,000 b more sounds about right!! I have not identified the girl because she also told me that I was sure to have a bad time, as the girls were not friendly/GFE with the customers and she heard that many guys were not very satisfied with the eventual result.
If you go over to Cozy Beach, the Russian girls are everywhere....mostly with boyfriends/husbands/kids.....but sometimes not. When I have lived in Thailand for very long periods of time....sometimes you can get sick of the "short time/long time"..."luv you too mutts"..."Thai fooos"...."big peanut".....and assorted other stuff.....and maybe want to hear it all with a different accent....
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]In April of 2007 I went upstairs to visit a friend that was working at Galaxy (not P4P)....I sat down a got a drink. I talked to my friend for a few minutes and asked her how this deal worked. I am not a rich Thai or Arab. She told me (I am not 100% sure....but close)...that it was around 5,000 b for the "escort" and that a separate deal had to be worked out with the girl for any sexual service. I also asked how much this could run. She said she wasn't sure but heard the girls ask for around 10,000 b. This might be the price before negotiating. Of course, if you are a movie star...then maybe 5,000 b more and a typical Pattaya dude....10,000-20,000 b more sounds about right!! I have not identified the girl because she also told me that I was sure to have a bad time, as the girls were not friendly/GFE with the customers and she heard that many guys were not very satisfied with the eventual result.[/QUOTE]
This has to be one of the best pieces of advice on this thread for a long time. Any further comment is not required.
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[QUOTE=Cheap Meat 2]Comeon! Admit it! As if I'm the only one! I know you cheap old men have been tempted to do it. You guys on your, what? , 30, 000 baht pensions. Maybe you feel afraid that the girl will come after your frail old body and you can't run away?
I always scam the girls out of their money now. I'm 27, so I think I can easily outsmart them (and outrun them too). Last time I was living like a king on 2, 000 baht a day. Sex every day, drinking every day. The works.[/QUOTE]
If you need to scam some poor Thai girl out of her pay for fucking you.....that is very sad. At the level that you are dealing with, some of these girls need the money for food for themselves and a family possibly. This can only bring bad karma to you......you might be reincarnated as a fly dining on a soft dog turd in your future......maybe something to think about. Other than the quick thrill of a "con"....you must be very sad most of your days. Now, please go away!
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[QUOTE=Wendella]That would be about $600 - $1500 US? That can't be correct.[/QUOTE]It is correct ! 5000 bath bar fine , then it's up to the girl ...It does mean that you're gonna spend [i]only[/i] 10 to 20.000 more.Total damage : 25.000 bath ! Try it, then let me know.
Pattaya is not the [i]low class farang heaven[/i] only...At least not anymore. A lot of money involved, new clubs opened (North Pattaya) , rich thais coming from Bangkok for the week end.
I've seen thai people spend much more than 600 € in a night.
[QUOTE=Wendella]I've been to CM2 a few times, never to Spasso's. Where is it? I might be tempted to try a Russian if one seemed worth it, even for as much as 5,000 (if that was for at least a couple hours and more than one go). And again, this would have to be that kind that you just can't pass up. Must admit I haven't seen a Russian in that category yet in Bangkok. Not in CM2 and surely not at Grace.[/QUOTE]Spasso:
Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel 494 Rajdamri Road 494 Ratchadamri Rd Bangkok, 10330.
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Any farang who goes to the Galaxy Club is crazy. The prices are absurdly high (yes, the girls ask US $200 - $500 for S/T, depending on the nationality and level of stupidity of the client). The girls look more dead-eyed and disinterested than stoned Western street walkers.
Remember, all the former-Soviet hookers (wrong to call them Russians - few are) you see in Pattaya have been trafficked into Thailand. It's a really bad scene. With so many fun-loving girls in Thailand, why bother with the East European mobs and their ice-cold hookers?
I've attached a pic of a girl from Galaxy. She was about the best of the lot, so you can imagine how bad the others were.
Evil
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Russian girls and their pimps
Yes it is true what Evil Penivel writes. I agree 100 %.
And if you once go to the Hopf Brew House on Beach Road you may have the luck to see the master Pimp of those Russian hookers. A guy with the face of a gorilla, nearly 7 feet high and a fat neck lace with a diamond covered big 1 on his thorax, welcomed by Enzo, the opera singer, who treated this guy like the master of the Universe. And finally the hookers who come to his table and pay their respect on that guy – unbelievable.
Finally I can say from my point of the view, that most of those Russian hookers are ugly and from their intelligence on a very low level.
I have been many times in the former USSR and later Russia and had a lot of women during that time. They all have been much better in every way than that scum working in Pattaya now.
May be they are good for people who liked to have European looking girls – but, why the hell they go to Thailand to fuck that kind of girls?
I am happy to stay there and being together with a beautiful young Thai lady since about 4 years. And if I have an appetite to stay together with a Russian girl – I will do that in Russia or in Germany – but it is really not necessary to do that in Thailand. Too expensive and really not worth it.
Enjoy your life, Gentlemen. You only have this one.
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Any farang who goes to the Galaxy Club is crazy.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Every time I walk past the Galaxy Club, there is a crowd of people on the street below -- all asians -- watching the ugly white girls dance around in the glass cubicle.
I wouldn't have one of them at Beach Road FL prices!
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Daddy07,
Did you see me that night standing below staring up! The best girl is most likely dancing in the glass window get inside and you run right back out. As EP said, you got to be stupid to pay that price. They are neither attractive and they smell and I'm Asian.
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Daddy07,
Did you see me that night standing below staring up!...LBM[/QUOTE]
Yeah, come to think of it now, I did see one slack jawed Asian cat in particular, with drool streaming down his chin gawking up at the caucaisian freaks in the plastic tank ... Was that you? :D
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Putting things in perspective
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Every time I walk past the Galaxy Club, there is a crowd of people on the street below -- all asians -- watching the ugly white girls dance around in the glass cubicle.
I wouldn't have one of them at Beach Road FL prices![/QUOTE]
Ugly to us, but hot to them.
Conversely, the little dark so-called 'lovelies' that you all drool over in the bars etc. are viewed the same way by them, as you view these "ugly white girls".
Just as you may think they're nuts for gawking at these white skanks, they think the same of you when they see you walking around with your dark-skinned Isaan rent-a-hos. To them, 90% of the "hotties" in the gogo bars are as ugly as shit.
So, all those admonitions..."To each his own", Beauty is the eye of the beholder"...blah, blah, blah...cut both ways.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Ugly to us, but hot to them.
Conversely, the little dark so-called 'lovelies' that you all drool over in the bars etc. are viewed the same way by them, as you view these "ugly white girls".
Just as you may think they're nuts for gawking at these white skanks, they think the same of you when they see you walking around with your dark-skinned Isaan rent-a-hos. To them, 90% of the "hotties" in the gogo bars are as ugly as shit...[/QUOTE]
You really shouldn't include me in your over generalizations about farangs preferences in girls, OTH. Actually, the Thai men salivate when they see me walking home with my chosen girls. :) If you could only see my latest regular, I'm sure you would understand.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]You really shouldn't include me in your over generalizations about farangs preferences in girls, OTH. Actually, the Thai men salivate when they see me walking home with my chosen girls. :) If you could only see my latest regular, I'm sure you would understand.[/QUOTE]
The "you" wasn't you, specifically. So, don't be sensitive. Since I haven't seen your chosen girls I don't obviously want to comment. So, this isn't about you.
But, I don't think my comments are over generalizations. I've been here long enough to form an accurate opinion based on continual observations of what women most Farang prefer.
BTW, the Thai men to which you refer are what kind of Thai men? Just curious because status plays a huge part in this. While I've seen motorcycle taxi drivers salivate over just about any Thai girl seen with your average Farang, simply because they can't have them, Thai men slightly higher on the ladder and certainly middle-class and above simply wouldn't give these girls the time of day. But, they might get all wound up over those "ugly white girls" at Galaxy. I used to work with a female American teacher who arrived in Thailand a 26 y.o. virgin. By any of our standards, she would be considered at best plain and more likely quite unattractive. But, she had blonde hair, blue eyes, and pale, pale skin and eventually lost it to one of her HiSo Thai-Chinese students. Thereafter, she became the campus bicycle - the scions of some of Thailand's richest families were lined up to have a go. Yet, I bet that most guys on here wouldn't go near her with a barge pole.
That's the point. The whole notion of what's ugly or not (and I've been guilty of this, too) is almost always generalized and, of course is totally subjective.
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Daddy07,
No that wasn't me! It was my wife nephew that was drooling like a water fountain. I have a thing for redheads alway have and always will, that is my weakness.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The "you" wasn't you, specifically...[/QUOTE]
OK, OK, as long as you're not including me my fantasy bubble remains intact. :)
Yeah it's probably baht bus drivers who are salivating over my girls, and I suppose they would salivate over a hot dog. There simply aren't any hi-so people here, so we'll never know about them.
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I agree with OTH, that beauty is very individual. I am also somebody who like to observe and to reflect about myself and my observations. Obviously it's the girls who choose the men. If I bar girl isn't interested than it will be difficult to get her, or have a good time with her. I often saw western guys with not very pretty Thai girls, but the guys seems to be happy. Maybe because they good first time any attention. For that they loved her thai girl. But, objectivly the more pretty girls are not typical thai style.
In general the majority of men like girls with small waists, broader hips, long legs, round butts and tits. Also, narrow noses and not flat faces are pretty. Typical Thai girls, or better to say Isaan girls have the opposit characteristics. So, I understand why somebody is behind Russian girls. The advantage of Thailand for the most guys who are behind Russian girls, is that they don't need to have a Visa, like they would need for a journey to Russia. Also, the costs for accomodations, etc are in Thailand much lower.
Well, I have to admit that I would prefer, at least by look Russian girls, but since the are very expensive and as far as many say not good performer, I use to find a pretty thai girl.
Though, when I am in Dubai, than I prefer CIS girls, since they are usually more pretty than Asia girls and better performer than Ethiopian or Eritrean girls, Imho.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]OK, OK, as long as you're not including me my fantasy bubble remains intact. :)[/QUOTE]
Well, we all have our own bubbles. Although, I will say that mine was burst last week when I was in Pattaya. I really think I spend too much time around demur, young things. So, watching th antics of the girls in the bars, despite having seen them ad nauseum in the past was a bit of a jolt. I have to admit that I've become a bit of an old granny, or something because as I watched the naked lesbian show in one bar, all I could think of was, "I wonder what your parents would think." I'm not sure, but I was probably the only guy in the bar thinking that. ;)
You asked me last week if I got laid. Well, I did try to take one for the team, for old time's sake. I bar-fined a girl, who then of course was hungry (aren't they always?). I knew I was in trouble when I actually felt I was walking the "walk of shame" on Walking Street, of all places - a street that, afterall is purpose-buit for this. The snack, which turned into a meal (albeit, at least not lobster or something expensive) gave me time to think. I couldn't go through with it. So, after she finished scoffing down the last of her steak moo, I gave her a grand, sent her home (with a puzzled look on her face) and went back to my hotel to sleep. She was the best that I had seen, but still wasn't up to my standards. So, why bother?
It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
Naww ... I'll tell you what it really is: OTH is in love and can hear the wedding bells pealing softly in the background of his troubled mind.
After the wedding -- one or two years maybe -- the mongering instincts will be rekindled, to burn even hotter than before, and the best of Pattaya will start looking plenty good to him again. :D
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Naww ... I'll tell you what it really is: OTH is in love and can hear the wedding bells pealing softly in the background of his troubled mind.
After the wedding -- one or two years maybe -- the mongering instincts will be rekindled, to burn even hotter than before, and the best of Pattaya will start looking plenty good to him again. :D[/QUOTE]
Funny. :D
I didn't say I wasn't shagging other women. I just can't do the P4P monger thing, anymore. I just have to content myself with more infrequent sessions with the harder-to-get types, pictures of whom I occasionally post in the Photo Gallery.
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Agreement from an Old Bali Hand
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
I can really relate to this. The whole P4P just leaves me cold these days. Enough is enough. I bought my first fuck at the original Thermae Bar on Sukhumvit in 1972. It was $US5 all night and we smoked dope and sung songs and screwed our brains out from go to whoa. I still remember her name -- Dang.
I've drunk deep at the well ever since on my regular trips to Thailand over the ensuring 36 years, and the 20 odd years I've been in Bali.
But now the whole scene just leaves me cold, here in Bali and in Thailand.
I'm no longer in such a state of denial that I can believe the "I luf you's" and the sounds of wild sexual excitement from a girl I met all of 10 minutes before.
Part of this is that I finally found someone who I love to bits and who genuinely loves me too.
The fact that she is Balinese, tall, slim, fresh, drop-dead gorgeous, a post-graduate student, not the slightest bit interested in the heft of my wallet, and all of 26 years old (to my wrinkled 58) is probably part of the reason.
And I'm only the second man who she's ever been to bed with.
I've tasted the best sex of my life with her. Why would I settle for second best?
But never say never... so I agree with OTH's "all but evaporated."
All but.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
How many years did it take to get to this point?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How many years did it take to get to this point?[/QUOTE]
Not so sure but I can tell you that after 4 years here, I am already getting very tired of the Bar/FL scene. I still go to massages but ever since I realised that regular Thai girls (read non P4P) were as good in the sac as your garden variety BG, I stick to non P4P as much as possible.
I find this very amusing because not so long ago (a year?) I was convinced that p4p was the only way to go. I guess I smartened up. LOL.
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[quote=dg69]i agree with oth, that beauty is very individual.[/quote]
actually it isn't, is precisely the point - it is socially determined. thai guys have a socialized social climbing/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy, while farang guys have a porno movie fantasy. it is all cultural. individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.
[quote=old thai hand]i just can't do the p4p monger thing, anymore[/quote]
[quote=nicfrenchy]...i stick to non p4p as much as possible..[/quote]
you guys, i just don't get it. the older i get, the lazier i get about getting laid (and everything else), and p4p is much easier than the regular girls. heck, i can hardly stand even the more difficult or uncooperative type of p4p anymore, which leaves only real pros in pattaya and maybe sukhumvitt to get the job done - particularly old tried and true regulars i know will perform and give no touble.
for example - and this is only one example - one would have to learn thai to even begin to pursue these 'non-prostitutes'. my goodness, getting laid is nice, but it certainly isn't worth that much trouble.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]...Individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.[/QUOTE]
Never-the-less, I consider it the core of my conscious existence and wouldn’t care to live without it.
[QUOTE=Opebo]You guys, I just don't get it. The older I get, the lazier I get about getting laid (and everything else), and P4P is much easier than the regular girls...[/QUOTE]
OTH has exhausted the p4p scene. He’s found a beautiful young lady who meets all his standards. He’s fallen in love with her. It’s no surprise then that no other women seem to measure up to her. She’s better than p4p in his mind. He’s willing to put up with her needs and demands, and admits that she’ll cost him just as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.
Nic is a young guy with lots of money and energy. He sees non-p4p girls as a challenge and enjoys wooing them from Camfrog to meeting to bedroom. He’s happy to go out on dates with them for hours, sometime even days at a time; taking them for dinner at expensive restaurants, drinks at trendy clubs, involving late night dancing and partying. His girls are more desirable than p4p because they don’t want payment for the sex. He likes that part of it, but admits that these girls also cost him as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.
Mick appears to enjoy the benefits of both – the girlfriend and the p4p. There’s an awful lot on his plate. He’s walking a thin line. But it’s right for him.
And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. We don’t have to put up with family, friends, emotional problems, and constant personal demands. We can avoid wasting our time, energy, and money on mindless courtship rituals, dancing, and partying – not to mention jealousy, paranoia, and sheer boredom. When we want to fuck, we fuck, and then we send the lovely lass on her merry way, so we can focus our attention on other important matters. It’s what is right for us.
I think we can all agree that Thailand is the best place in the world to do all of the above.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]
For example - and this is only one example - one would have to learn Thai to even begin to pursue these 'non-prostitutes'. My goodness, getting laid is nice, but it certainly isn't worth THAT much trouble.[/QUOTE]
Gawd you're stupid! Loads of non-P4P TGs speak English. For example, I currently have something in the neighborhood of 120 female uni students, all of whom are fluent or near fluent in English.
I actually find the whole P4P scene more of an effort than non-P4P, not to mention exceedingly tiresome.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How many years did it take to get to this point?[/QUOTE]
exactly 2 years. Even during that time, I was mixing it up between P4P and non-P4P and finally found it more interesting and rewarding to shag the less accessible type of TG.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Never-the-less, I consider it the core of my conscious existence and wouldn’t care to live without it.
OTH has exhausted the p4p scene. He’s found a beautiful young lady who meets all his standards. He’s fallen in love with her. It’s no surprise then that no other women seem to measure up to her. She’s better than p4p in his mind. He’s willing to put up with her needs and demands, and admits that she’ll cost him just as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.
Nic is a young guy with lots of money and energy. He sees non-p4p girls as a challenge and enjoys wooing them from Camfrog to meeting to bedroom. He’s happy to go out on dates with them for hours, sometime even days at a time; taking them for dinner at expensive restaurants, drinks at trendy clubs, involving late night dancing and partying. His girls are more desirable than p4p because they don’t want payment for the sex. He likes that part of it, but admits that these girls also cost him as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.
Mick appears to enjoy the benefits of both – the girlfriend and the p4p. There’s an awful lot on his plate. He’s walking a thin line. But it’s right for him.
And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. We don’t have to put up with family, friends, emotional problems, and constant personal demands. We can avoid wasting our time, energy, and money on mindless courtship rituals, dancing, and partying – not to mention jealousy, paranoia, and sheer boredom. When we want to fuck, we fuck, and then we send the lovely lass on her merry way, so we can focus our attention on other important matters. It’s what is right for us.
I think we can all agree that Thailand is the best place in the world to do all of the above.[/QUOTE]
Good post. BTW, I never liked the chase that much. But, still I do like a bit of a challenge. Just because I have found a significant other, doesn't mean I won't keep a gig or 3 on the side. The GF was away for 5 days last weekend and therefore, I had a former student pop round for dinner and an all-nighter. The good thing about my GF is that, unlike a lot of TGs, she's not clingy and likes to do her own thing, affording me considerable free time to do whatever I want.
My all-time hero on here was always the long-gone and missed Coma Boy. He did it all, but tended to favor girls he'd meet randomly walking around in Siam Square, at a coffee shop, at a club, coming out of office buildings etc. The guy had (and I'm sure still has) no fear. He consistently pulled and posted pics of the best looking girls anywhere in Thailand. The board's never been the same since he left.
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[quote=opebo]actually it isn't, is precisely the point - it is socially determined. thai guys have a socialized social climbing/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy, while farang guys have a porno movie fantasy. it is all cultural. individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.[/quote]
not to all of us. some people are easy manipulable, others not. but, one thing is in all cultures the same and that is the ideal ratio between hips and waist (0,7). so, if talking about beauty than it's not a question of cultural background.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. [/QUOTE]
Right there with you, but I'm not older. Wiser? Maybe.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]My all-time hero on here was always the long-gone and missed Coma Boy. He did it all, but tended to favor girls he'd meet randomly walking around in Siam Square, at a coffee shop, at a club, coming out of office buildings etc. The guy had (and I'm sure still has) no fear. He consistently pulled and posted pics of the best looking girls anywhere in Thailand. The board's never been the same since he left.[/QUOTE]
I might be mistaken OTH, it has been over 2 years since Coma disappeared, however, IIRC, all of his dalliances were with P4P, not girls coming out of buildings, or sitting in coffee shops. And how could you say the girls he pulled were the best looking anywhere in Thailand. All he ever showed were "gyno" shots.
Here are a few of Coma's girls.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454804&postcount=801[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454802&postcount=800[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454801&postcount=799[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454807&postcount=802[/url]
This one is 100% P4P
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39277[/url]
And Coma Boy wrote this
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]I like uncovered face photos, I just don't post them myself...................... I live here so can't post faces, even if I wanted to.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]I might be mistaken OTH, it has been over 2 years since Coma disappeared, however, IIRC, all of his dalliances were with P4P, not girls coming out of buildings, or sitting in coffee shops. And how could you say the girls he pulled were the best looking anywhere in Thailand. All he ever showed were "gyno" shots.
Here are a few of Coma's girls.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454804&postcount=801[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454802&postcount=800[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454801&postcount=799[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454807&postcount=802[/url]
This one is 100% P4P
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39277[/url][/QUOTE]
Well, maybe I over-enthused a bit about them being the best-looking. And, maybe my memory isn't that good. I know he did a lot of P4P. But, unless his girls on ISG were markedly different form those on his follow-up blog, a sizeable portion of them were non-P4P. He talks a lot about this fact on his blog. It's true he rarely showed faces. So, who knows definitively about looks. But a lot of these girls had amazing bodies, if I remember correctly. He did also pick up a lot of girls at Q-Bar and Bed Supper (when those places were still upmarket, before they descended into P4P hang-outs), as well as clubs around Ekkamai and Thonglor. I think it was always a mix of both P4P and non-P4P.
In any even, I think he was a quality contributor and I for one miss his pics.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]I might be mistaken OTH, it has been over 2 years since Coma disappeared,...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he stopped contributing here just about 2 years ago when he started his own web blog, which wouldn't load properly on my computer, so I was unable to enjoy it.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yeah, he stopped contributing here just about 2 years ago when he started his own web blog, which wouldn't load properly on my computer, so I was unable to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
And Giotto can thank him for the word BESTARD.
what is his blog address? is he still at it?
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[QUOTE=1Ball]...
what is his blog address? is he still at it?[/QUOTE]Mr. VP,
Sadly he stopped writing his blog more than a year ago.
Giotto
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[QUOTE]I actually find the whole P4P scene more of an effort than non-P4P, not to mention exceedingly tiresome.[/QUOTE]
Well the other day I took a stroll up Soi 6 and within about 30 seconds saw, amid the usual freak show, a lovely young thing. Five minutes later we were upstairs for a full hour of superb meaningless fun. No effort and nothing tiresome about that.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Well the other day I took a stroll up Soi 6 and within about 30 seconds saw, amid the usual freak show, a lovely young thing. Five minutes later we were upstairs for a full hour of superb meaningless fun. No effort and nothing tiresome about that.[/QUOTE]
You missed the point.
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Some of the replies in this thread are getting very dogmatic, as though there's one right way to monger and all the rest are inferior - if not outright wrong. Good Thai girls who fuck for free are held up as the Holy Grail of mongering, while scorn is heaped on the girls who work on a daily basis in the frontlines of P4P. A notch below the GTG gik is either the "farm fresh" 18- or 19-year-old girl who's worked for a couple of weeks, or the uni student, office clerk, shop assistant, etc. who only does P4P two nights a month when the rent is due.
In fact, these sorts of distinctions are totally subjective. As long as the girl is over 18 and it's a consensual relationship, there is no right or wrong, only what appeals to you the most. If you prefer talking girls onto their backs, whether on the Net or in person, go for it. If 18 year-olds straight from the village are your thing, I hope you find them. And if you want to buy into the myth of "occassional," or "non-professional" working girls at Spasso or the QBar, go pet the unicorn.
But you're deluding yourself if you think any one approach is an ultimate insight or universal truth about P4P in LOS. The members of ISG monger for different reasons. We have divergent goals, fantasies, budgets, time available, etc. - all of which influence the form of P4P (or non-P4P) we choose. With a very few exceptions, it's never a question of one being better than the other by any objective standard. The options are just different and what's good for one monger is bad for another. It's sort of like arguing whether spicy food is better than bland food or green is a more beautiful color than red.
It all boils down to some variation of "One man's meat is another man's poison." That's the way it was, is and always will be.
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Dream Teen Pattaya massage
Has anyone been there?
The website from this new massage place shows a lady or two I'd like to check out.
[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url]
Lady named 'Boo' looks big up-front. I'd love to know if those are real, or did she have them surgically enhanced?
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I have been to Pattaya three times now and every time I arrive I shudder at the awfulness of it all, the crowded streets, the disgusting-looking western guys, the occasional horrible smells, the ranks of ugly women in some of the bars. But after a couple of days I come to love it and I find it as charming as anywhere in Thailand. As Leonard Cohen put it "You know that she's half crazy but that's why you want to be there".
It is very possible to find lovely-looking women if you look in the right places. Baby Dolls is good for younger women who look great but the music gives me a headache. I'm sure the bar checks their ages and the hotel usually does likewise when they hand in their ID but it does no harm to double-check yourself, one hotel receptionist gave a succinct piece of Thai legal advice that any lawyer should be proud of. She told me "If 17 then must not, if 18 then up to you-ooo".
Secrets is also good. The girls are a bit mixed on the looks side of things but plenty are OK. And they are well supervised by no less than four mamasans (beware one of these who sometimes drinks a bit too much and can get a bit aggressive. But if she does just let her know you are not worried and she will be fine). I had a great time with one woman and later I made a point of telling one of the mamasans. Next time the same woman was not available so I chose another who was quite new to the scene, possibly even very new, although she was 38. When we got to the room, she told me the mamasan had told her what great things this other girl had done for me and she must do the same. She looked despondent and told me "I cannot smoking like X". I told her not to worry and we did not have to do anything. She firmly said she liked making love. So we did and after a while she swung us over and then turned herself around to genuine cowgirl position (first time for me) and went at it really hard and came like a steam train, apologising and saying it had been a long time since she had come. When I return I will be curious to see if she has lasted the course so to speak. I don't think I will go with her again though. After all, if I go with a 38 year-old I do expect smoking!
Happy days!
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Nic is a young guy with lots of money and energy. He sees non-p4p girls as a challenge and enjoys wooing them from Camfrog to meeting to bedroom. He’s happy to go out on dates with them for hours, sometime even days at a time; taking them for dinner at expensive restaurants, drinks at trendy clubs, involving late night dancing and partying. His girls are more desirable than p4p because they don’t want payment for the sex. He likes that part of it, but admits that these girls also cost him as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.[/QUOTE]
Am I that obvious? LOL
I must say you got me pretty well figured out ;)
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]Has anyone been there?
The website from this new massage place shows a lady or two I'd like to check out.
[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url]
Lady named 'Boo' looks big up-front. I'd love to know if those are real, or did she have them surgically enhanced?[/QUOTE]
Been there done Jib & New. It is a little on the pricy side, any place that has Japanese writing on a sign out in front of their shop is going to be $$$, but I loved getting the ball massage, this is a full service joint, with a very happy ending.
RG.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]You missed the point.[/QUOTE]
Given that this is a forum on commercial sex in Pattaya, I thought I went straight to the point. Oh well.
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Dan7373,
Awhile back, after reading on another board of a frequent poster's enjoyable trip there, I went, and asked for the same masseuse he had. I should have known when I walked up and one of the girls outside made a thinly disguised sneer. I should say that I'm tall, fit and clean. I went upstairs with the recommended girl, and despite my attempts at conversation and warmth, she remained cold. She massaged my balls, as advertised, and then asked me if I wanted to finish... for an additional 800 baht. This is a blatant rip off when many massage places give a bj for a tip of 500. I declined and she left, well in advance of the time I had paid for. If you haven't been, Teen Dream is a single shop house near the corner of Soi Buakao, and nothing notable.
After being here for 13 years, I am weary of the Thai promise and no deliver. I went in another recommended place, Stand By on Soi Honey, got a half assed massage, and then the girl said she had a tooth ache and couldn't smoke, how about a hj for the same price? Ironic how so many girls all get a tooth ache at the same time, the same excuses being bandied about on the bamboo telegraph.
LOS: Land of Starfish.
KT
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Dream Teen Massage
[QUOTE=Dan7373]Has anyone been there?
The website from this new massage place shows a lady or two I'd like to check out.
[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url]
Lady named 'Boo' looks big up-front. I'd love to know if those are real, or did she have them surgically enhanced?[/QUOTE]I was there twice back in April and enjoyed both visits. The first time was with a girl who is no longer on their website, but it was a great experience overall. I took the 2 hour (including ball massage) package for 700THB, which included a shower and a great romp on the bed for 2 hours. She immediately started asking for an extra 1000, but I only had 300 with me so she settled for that with the hope that I would come back another time and spend some more money. She had a beautiful body, spoke very poor english, had great massage skills, gave me a great BBBJ and covered sex, and it was the best 1000THB I ever spent.
Went back a few days later and had Fret, who is on the website. Fantastic time again. She asked for 1500THB plus the 700THB to the house. I was happy to pay it, as it was the best 66USD I've ever spent. Two full hours of joy. A great massage, great BBBJ, and great sex.compare that to Las Vegas where a mediocre 45 minute massage with an awful HJ and a sneer from the provider is a minimum of $120, and you begin to realize what a true paradise Pattaya is.
Treat yourself to Dream Teen Massage. You won't regret it.
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[QUOTE=David 2]Treat yourself to Dream Teen Massage. You won't regret it.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately a lot of people have regretted it. Pattaya oilies are almost all somewhat hit or miss, and this one seems to deliver more misses than hits.
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[QUOTE=Khun Talung]Dan7373,
Awhile back, after reading on another board of a frequent poster's enjoyable trip there, I went, and asked for the same masseuse he had. I should have known when I walked up and one of the girls outside made a thinly disguised sneer. I should say that I'm tall, fit and clean. I went upstairs with the recommended girl, and despite my attempts at conversation and warmth, she remained cold. She massaged my balls, as advertised, and then asked me if I wanted to finish... for an additional 800 baht. This is a blatant rip off when many massage places give a bj for a tip of 500. I declined and she left, well in advance of the time I had paid for. If you haven't been, Teen Dream is a single shop house near the corner of Soi Buakao, and nothing notable....[/QUOTE]
It sounds like your experience at Teen Massage has not been as good as that of some other guys who have been there. I suspect that the ladies treated you less than well there because you are 'tall, fit and clean'.
I've gotten to know some P4P ladies in Pattaya quite well. And one common theme I've heard from them was that young, tall, fit, clean, and good-looking guys usually didn't pay the ladies well. The more sexy the guy was, the more he tended to treat his encounter with the lady as if he was doing a favor for her. Which meant that he didn't pay her as well as the less good-looking guys paid.
Due to such experiences, many ladies in Pattaya are probably biased against good-looking guys. Which puts you at a disadvantage with these ladies.
One good way to overcome such a disadvantage would be to pay the lady generously in advance. Which is what I usually do. And from my own experience I can say that the lady usually devotes herself well to me, when the money is not a worry for her.
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So there's hope for us short, not so handsome and slightly overweight types after all :) Mind you, we all tend to be 'hansum man' so long as the wallet is full.
I look forward to being in Thailand and especially in Pattaya in five weeks time. Not that I'm counting mind . . .
Expatcat
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[QUOTE=David 2]....Went back a few days later and had Fret, who is on the website. Fantastic time again. She asked for 1500THB plus the 700THB to the house....
Treat yourself to Dream Teen Massage. You won't regret it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information. It sounds like at least some of the ladies there are very good for the horny man to pursue, provided that you pay them well.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]...I suspect that the ladies treated you less than well there because you are 'tall, fit and clean'.
I've gotten to know some P4P ladies in Pattaya quite well. And one common theme I've heard from them was that young, tall, fit, clean, and good-looking guys usually didn't pay the ladies well. The more sexy the guy was, the more he tended to treat his encounter with the lady as if he was doing a favor for her. Which meant that he didn't pay her as well as the less good-looking guys paid.
Due to such experiences, many ladies in Pattaya are probably biased against good-looking guys. Which puts you at a disadvantage with these ladies...[/QUOTE]
(Sigh) ......... I love this place. :D
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]
I've gotten to know some P4P ladies in Pattaya quite well. And one common theme I've heard from them was that young, tall, fit, clean, and good-looking guys usually didn't pay the ladies well. The more sexy the guy was, the more he tended to treat his encounter with the lady as if he was doing a favor for her. Which meant that he didn't pay her as well as the less good-looking guys paid.
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I'd agree, but it's usually the newer girls who learn the hard way and go with young good looking guys. Many of these guys get away with low prices or not paying at all (I used to). By the time they are a bit more seasoned, however, the lesson has been learned and they tend to go for the higher bidder.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]And one common theme I've heard from them was that young, tall, fit, clean, and good-looking guys usually didn't pay the ladies well. [/QUOTE]
Some of them are also concerned about undue wear and tear on their moneymakers from the younger guys, especially on overnighters. Most of these girls are NOT impressed when some god's gift to women shags them silly all night long.
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young guy vs old guy
This is a slightly differen take on this issue and has to do with it as it applies to regular TGs and relationships with older Farang guys.
It's been my experience that a lot of girls, who might at first go for the young Farang hunk soon get tied of them because these guys, naturally are butterflies, liars and undependable.
While lots of older guys are butterflies and liars, too (I certainly have been in the past), they at least provide security; not just financial security, either but also emotional security.
However, one mustn't have any illusions that the hot TG won't occasionally stray and have a hunk on the side as a Gig. But, in the big picture, she'll usually favour the older guy over the younger and stick with the older guy as the main love in her life.
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Older Boyfriend?
Oldy,
Well said, You are right on on this!
Yet many DO REMAIN faithful also!
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]This is a slightly differen take on this issue and has to do with it as it applies to regular TGs and relationships with older Farang guys.
It's been my experience that a lot of girls, who might at first go for the young Farang hunk soon get tied of them because these guys, naturally are butterflies, liars and undependable.
While lots of older guys are butterflies and liars, too (I certainly have been in the past), they at least provide security; not just financial security, either but also emotional security.
However, one mustn't have any illusions that the hot TG won't occasionally stray and have a hunk on the side as a Gig. But, in the big picture, she'll usually favour the older guy over the younger and stick with the older guy as the main love in her life.[/QUOTE]
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Bullshit!
reply, reply, reply
i view the forums, and get rtff, then i search, and read schuabling w/ multiple replys. i view the posts
i say ban the words rtfff
[quote=opebo]actually it isn't, is precisely the point - it is socially determined. thai guys have a socialized social climbing/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy, while farang guys have a porno movie fantasy. it is all cultural. individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.
you guys, i just don't get it. the older i get, the lazier i get about getting laid (and everything else), and p4p is much easier than the regular girls. heck, i can hardly stand even the more difficult or uncooperative type of p4p anymore, which leaves only real pros in pattaya and maybe sukhumvitt to get the job done - particularly old tried and true regulars i know will perform and give no touble.
for example - and this is only one example - one would have to learn thai to even begin to pursue these 'non-prostitutes'. my goodness, getting laid is nice, but it certainly isn't worth that much trouble.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...in the big picture, she'll usually favour the older guy over the younger and stick with the older guy as the main love in her life.[/QUOTE]
Haha, I hardly think 'love' is an appropriate term to use for these arrangements!
[QUOTE=Dan7373]I've gotten to know some P4P ladies in Pattaya quite well. And one common theme I've heard from them was that young, tall, fit, clean, and good-looking guys usually didn't pay the ladies well.[/QUOTE]
'Pay the ladies well'? The price in Pattaya is the same for everyone is it not? 500 short time, 1,000 long time.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Haha, I hardly think 'love' is an appropriate term to use for these arrangements!
'Pay the ladies well'? The price in Pattaya is the same for everyone is it not? 500 short time, 1,000 long time.[/QUOTE]
I've found that most (good looking) gals won't go for 500 short anymore. Those days are gone. Too many guys comming here now throwing 1500-2000 short time at these girls. There is still cheap pussy here, don't get me wrong, but it's just not like it used to be. Also, the amount of 18-20 year old babes has dwindled over the years.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]...Also, the amount of 18-20 year old babes has dwindled over the years.[/QUOTE]
Correct! And this means that the size of P4P will continue to shrink, as each succeeding generation of prostitutes is smaller. At the same time the number of mongers of course always goes up, thus we see these huge price increases. It is this demographic reality which dooms us, brothers, even more than the intervention of the Forces of Social Control.
Luckily for me I care more about service than looks or youth, so I've so far avoided the worst of the carnage.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Also, the amount of 18-20 year old babes has dwindled over the years.[/QUOTE]
Over what years are those? There's probably ten times the number of working girls in Pattaya now compared to 20 years ago, and plenty are still 18-20 years old.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Over what years are those? There's probably ten times the number of working girls in Pattaya now compared to 20 years ago, and plenty are still 18-20 years old.[/QUOTE]
Last 6 years or so.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]
'Pay the ladies well'? The price in Pattaya is the same for everyone is it not? 500 short time, 1,000 long time.[/QUOTE]
It depends. In walking street forget it ! No way you're gonna find a decent girl goin' with you for 500 bath. The only girls available at this price are freelancers on beach road. Beautiful bar girls would charge u a thousand as well (bar fine not included).
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Shopping in Pattaya
I will soon go on a short trip to Pattaya. Need some help from you guys.
Where in Pattaya can I buy Computer SW as in Panship Plaza in BKK?
Any recommonadation for a decent but not to expensive Restaurant (Thai Food)?
Which are actually at the moment the top bars in terms of nudity and shows?
Thanks for your advises.
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Work and Barfine:
Can anyone answer this question as fact or fiction:
On my last visit (2006) to LOS the girls in Bangkok Pay for play seem to come to work if they wanted to thus no additional bar fine if they wanted to stay with us longer?? vs. The girls in Patttaya had to come to work like a regular job and if they stayed with their customer they still had to pay the bar fine.
Can anyone shine some light on this?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've found that most (good looking) gals won't go for 500 short anymore. Those days are gone. [/QUOTE]
And quite right as well, 500 baht in 2008 is nothing short of slave labour, no wonder sex tourists have a bad name.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]And quite right as well, 500 baht in 2008 is nothing short of slave labour, no wonder sex tourists have a bad name.[/QUOTE]
Jimmy, I agree with you that working girls in Thai Tourist resorts deserve, and should hold out for as much money as they can get. But your economics are screwed. Most parlour prostitutes in the UK will earn £200-600 per day for shagging 10 to 20 customers, which is about 2 to 6 times a normal working wage. 200bt is a good day's wages for most khun Thai, so 2.5 x that for a quick shag holds up quite well against the aforesaid rate in farangland.
Like I said, not trying to do anybody down, but let's have some perspective here.
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Software in Pattaya
Tuc Com, South Pattaya
[QUOTE=Sumart]
Where in Pattaya can I buy Computer SW as in Panship Plaza in BKK?
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TukCom South Pattaya Road for electronics and software.
Try he 24 hour diner in Villa supermarket for standard thai food. Very clean
DON'T eat at Kiss Restaurant, unless you enjoy having diahria!!!
Electra Blue on Soi Diamond also Has good thai food-Very clean.
[QUOTE=Sumart]I will soon go on a short trip to Pattaya. Need some help from you guys.
Where in Pattaya can I buy Computer SW as in Panship Plaza in BKK?
Any recommonadation for a decent but not to expensive Restaurant (Thai Food)?
Which are actually at the moment the top bars in terms of nudity and shows?
Thanks for your advises.[/QUOTE]
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Pattaya Pleasures
This is my second time in Patts. I'm no veteran so i'm generally cautious...
Walking Street
This is a candy shop with differring prices and quality. My first take was from a beer bar. BF was 300B and 1000B LT. She was very good...a real GFE.
My second and third takes were from GoGo bars. At Living Dolls the BF is 450B and I took one ST for 1000B. She was a looker. However the performance was well below par. The same applies for the third take.
MP's
This is were it gets interesting!! Went to small MP in soi 7, opposite Anna Jet's. Before going in, I spent some time talking to the girl. She wasn't a stunner, but she was sweet and had a pleasant personality. The massage was excellent (300B+50B tip-no extras). I got her number and phoned her the next day. We went to the cinema, then for a coffee. One thing led to another and she came up to my room. It was an atomic experience (and absolutely free). The next day I met her again and did her again. I slept like a baby.
The fact is, if she wanted money she wouldn't have wanted to see me the second time. She never mentioned money!
Guys....there are places in Patts were you can get talking to a girl in a setting far removed from the bar scene. At Mike's shopping mall the girls aren't stunners but they're sweet and if you act decent and make them smile you can ask for their number. The rest is "Up to you".
I found this out quite by accident in Chiang Mai. In that situation I paid 500B LT and the experience was excellent. Unfortunately, my stay in LOS is drawing to a close so I cannot perfect my strategy and I cannot say that's it's foolproof. But I did wanted to share this with you people.
Take care,
Taka
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]It depends. In walking street forget it ! No way you're gonna find a decent girl goin' with you for 500 bath. The only girls available at this price are freelancers on beach road. Beautiful bar girls would charge u a thousand as well (bar fine not included).[/QUOTE]
It is exceedingly rare that I ever see a 'beautiful' girl in a bar, but the mediocre ones that are present in the bars always seem to want about 500 baht short time (plus the 250-300 baht bar fine). I suppose the beautiful girls work somewhere else - probably the Thai-oriented business.
Lets try to hold the line on prices, fellows. Short time really is a very small amount of the girl's day, so she can make a great income doing two or three short times per day. No reason to let your funny old Western Puritan guilt make you an easy mark!
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[QUOTE=Opebo]It is exceedingly rare that I ever see a 'beautiful' girl in a bar, but the mediocre ones that are present in the bars always seem to want about 500 baht short time (plus the 250-300 baht bar fine). I suppose the beautiful girls work somewhere else - probably the Thai-oriented business.
Lets try to hold the line on prices, fellows. Short time really is a very small amount of the girl's day, so she can make a great income doing two or three short times per day. No reason to let your funny old Western Puritan guilt make you an easy mark![/QUOTE]
Does the average WG in Pattaya really do 2 - 3 STs a day?
Certainly wouldn't be true in BKK. Only the super sexy girls get to do multiples every day.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]It is exceedingly rare that I ever see a 'beautiful' girl in a bar, but the mediocre ones that are present in the bars always seem to want about 500 baht short time (plus the 250-300 baht bar fine). [/QUOTE]
So you're gonna pay 800 bath (500 + 300 ) for a mediocre girl. In this case much better spend 200 bath more ( 2 € ? ) for a decent freelancer in walking street .
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Pattaya - the only sexfun place in Thailand
I red a lot of comments.
I travel 5x a year over a lot of countries in SE Asia and in general I don't like Thailand. The English they speak make me sick. The heigh prices they ask in the sex scene (if you get above 50 years even an old fat cow askes 2000 Bath + 2000 bath barfine but most just want to feed you beer so you get drunk and pay a lot of tips or ladydrinks).
But Pattaya is interesting, asside of all the tatoot western muzzle men who want to fuck 10 girls in a night. And all the Thai ladyboys on the street.
If you are lucky however (like me) you have already a wife.
Then you can watch shows like (something like) Dolls in Soi 14 or (something like) Midnightmist in Soi 15. You pay 40 Bath during happy hour 8-10 PM (and 70 bath later) and see real shows. You can sit along a naked couple of girls who play with eachother (even stick bananas in the pussy). Or you look to the other site and see girls in a batutube (naked) playing. Or just watch to girls dancing in a miniskirt without panty. And all the same time! And NO ANY PRES TO TAKE A SECOND BEER. If you are alone and want to save ladydrinks and not to have all the time the same stupid questions (where are you from. You look much yonger) then just say you are gay and you can watch the show undisturbed.
But if you need a woman. Then it gets hard. Most pretty things try just to talk to you and get ladydrinks and after a while (talking to 4 girls who don't want to go with you after a lot of drinks) you will end oversexed and drunk as you are with an old fat girl for 2000-3000 bath. Realy. Most pretty young girls don't want to go out with you! They have an own boyfriend waiting at home!
So when you need a woman just start to ask directly if she wants to go with you. After 2 minutes (and a clear head) you can shoose out of 4 girls (even if the bar is filled with 40 girls). If you don't like go and you just spend one drink. But for long time you should count on 2000-3000 bath all in in a gogo bar.
Indeed in beerbars in Pattaya the quality is low. Its more for the older men who drink a lot of cheap beer and if they almost fall in sleep they have a girl who can support them. But the next morning (when you have seen them naked and you are clear) you don't want to have sex anymore. But for 200Bath barfine and 600 bath long time you can have at least sex with a woman to have any exercise after all the beer drinking. And they are friendly too. (pretty girls are a pain in the ass and just talking to you to get a lot of money and come away without sex)
A lot of years the steetwalkers (along the boulevard) were ugly and asking still 800-1000 bath short time.
But now (August 11-18) I saw a lot of nice and young girls between e4qual amount of uggly and older woman. From about 2 pm they stand along the boulevard (most on the higher part with rough stones) like dolls in a show room. I was with my wife so I could undisturbed look around. Even in the sun they are some pretty once. But without any experience with them I would think they ask 1000+ bath short time and also could cause a risk in you have any valuable in your room.
My best bet would be soi 6 (sidestreet of the boulevard street) to get a good girl. That street is packed with girls just standing or sitting along the sidewalk. If you see a nice one (I like the young + skinny once but thats hard to find in Thailand where the minimum sex age is 21) you just look to here and she (or here older girlfriend along here) wil smile to you. Then you know she likes to go with you and you can ask here how much (for ST or LT).
For me it turned out to be 2000 bath long time (overnight) all in for a young, nice, but somewhat thicker girl (not skinny). If you take an older (28 year) or less pretty the price will drop to 1500 LT / 1100 ST all in. And thats the best you can get in whole Thailand for that money. Realize. You dindt spend any money on drinks and you can take out the girl from 2 pm till next morning!
Next evening/night don't take any girl and just drink cheap beers (cheapest between 8-10 pm) and watch the shows in Soi14+15 and say you are a gay. And you save money enough to get again a nice girl at soi 6 or a cheaper one at a beerbar.
Like this you save thousands of dollars and you get friendly reliable girls.
Sex holiday = Have uncomplex sex fun and save money!
Two things which are hard to find at any other place in Thailand.
Thats why I prefer other countries and I certainly don't mean Laos or Vietnam or Malaysia.
But always use a condom. All asian girls do it without condom and say you are the first like they did it to all others before you!
The reason? Most asian girls don't get a local friend anymore if they had sex with a man (like their first boyfriend or first husband). So they don't loose anything anymore after they had one time sex and can work without any mind problem as a *****. Nite after nite and even marry a foreighner if she is lucky because she is not good anymore for the locals.
Still want to spend 20 ladydrinks and 4000 bath?
Andre
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[QUOTE=Sumart]I will soon go on a short trip to Pattaya. Need some help from you guys.
Where in Pattaya can I buy Computer SW as in Panship Plaza in BKK?
Any recommonadation for a decent but not to expensive Restaurant (Thai Food)?
Which are actually at the moment the top bars in terms of nudity and shows?
Thanks for your advises.[/QUOTE]
Hi
Not sure about the computer question but I have heard that they are cheaper where I live than in Thailand.
It depends on what you mean by expensive? There are many decent places a couple at Tip Plaza by the DHL office on 2nd road. Then there is also a very cheap and cheerful place on Soi Buckaow between Soi LK & Soi Diana.
You need to go to a gogo to see the shows they can vary from visit to visit. Angel witch has a good show it is a good place to take a girl with you.
Whats up ago go is good and wet N Wild you get to see the girls swim around in the big tank.
There are go gos that you can just look then there are others that are more hands on it depends what you like.
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[QUOTE=Takamine1]This is my second time in Patts. I'm no veteran so i'm generally cautious...
Walking Street
This is a candy shop with differring prices and quality. My first take was from a beer bar. BF was 300B and 1000B LT. She was very good...a real GFE.
My second and third takes were from GoGo bars. At Living Dolls the BF is 450B and I took one ST for 1000B. She was a looker. However the performance was well below par. The same applies for the third take.
MP's
This is were it gets interesting!! Went to small MP in soi 7, opposite Anna Jet's. Before going in, I spent some time talking to the girl. She wasn't a stunner, but she was sweet and had a pleasant personality. The massage was excellent (300B+50B tip-no extras). I got her number and phoned her the next day. We went to the cinema, then for a coffee. One thing led to another and she came up to my room. It was an atomic experience (and absolutely free). The next day I met her again and did her again. I slept like a baby.
The fact is, if she wanted money she wouldn't have wanted to see me the second time. She never mentioned money!
Guys....there are places in Patts were you can get talking to a girl in a setting far removed from the bar scene. At Mike's shopping mall the girls aren't stunners but they're sweet and if you act decent and make them smile you can ask for their number. The rest is "Up to you".
I found this out quite by accident in Chiang Mai. In that situation I paid 500B LT and the experience was excellent. Unfortunately, my stay in LOS is drawing to a close so I cannot perfect my strategy and I cannot say that's it's foolproof. But I did wanted to share this with you people.
Take care,
Taka[/QUOTE]
Did you not offer her anything?
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[QUOTE=Takamine1]
One thing led to another and she came up to my room. It was an atomic experience (and absolutely free). The next day I met her again and did her again. I slept like a baby.
The fact is, if she wanted money she wouldn't have wanted to see me the second time. She never mentioned money!
Guys....there are places in Patts were you can get talking to a girl in a setting far removed from the bar scene.
Taka[/QUOTE]
So you reckon she fancied you, do you?
The fact is, I reckon, she wanted to see you again so that you could give her some money for the second time. Possible?
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Does the average WG in Pattaya really do 2 - 3 STs a day?
Certainly wouldn't be true in BKK. Only the super sexy girls get to do multiples every day.[/QUOTE]
Freelancers do far more short times, and in general make far more money, than the girls trapped sitting in bars.
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]So you're gonna pay 800 bath (500 + 300 ) for a mediocre girl. In this case much better spend 200 bath more ( 2 € ? ) for a decent freelancer in walking street .[/QUOTE]
No way. I get 500 baht freelancers. I would never consider paying more than 600 or 700 baht in Pattaya, unless it was for some serious extras.
I would like to applaud [b]Andre Cuipers'[/b] excellent analysis of the Thai sex scene - it certainly leaves a lot to be desire and is very overpriced. Kudos to Andre for telling it like it is. The whole buy-a-drink thing is incredibly tiresome, particularly for those of us who do not drink.
However I can say that he's quoting some very high prices there - almost double what I'm quoted. Usually the price on the Beach is 500 baht, sometimes (rarely) less, and certainly never more unless you are getting some serious extra services.
In the go-gos of Walking Street it is typically around 500 baht barfine and 1,500 baht short time, plus the 100 baht wasted on the obligatory drink. You may have to also buy the girl a 'drink' - in other words the barfine is actually around 600-620 when you add on this offensive demand. So all in is about 2,100 - true, far more than it is worth, but not 3-4K.
I would like to know where they have 200 baht bar fines and 600 baht all night beer bar girls.. I haven't ever run accross that.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]...In the go-gos of Walking Street it is typically around 500 baht barfine and 1,500 baht short time, plus the 100 baht wasted on the obligatory drink. You may have to also buy the girl a 'drink' - in other words the barfine is actually around 600-620 when you add on this offensive demand. So all in is about 2,100 - true, far more than it is worth, but not 3-4K...[/QUOTE]
In my experience, the typical go-go bar fine in Pattaya is 600 baht, but most girls will still go short time for 1000. The prima donna's want more and generally turn out to be starfish.
The trick is to go during happy hour when the ladies are fresh, your drink is half price, and you can watch the girls dance, often completely nude, taking your sweet time before making a selection, or leaving to check out the next place without incurring any obligation.
If you have great chemistry with the girl and she gives you her phone number after the session, next time she'll come to see you before work, so your total cost is reduced to 1000 baht ST for a pretty young girl and GFE.
You're right about the Beach Road girls. I've not met one yet who wanted more than 500 baht ST, and one or two decent ones went for 400 not too long ago.
There are far more doable girls in Pattaya at inexpensive cost than the most voracious monger could handle.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]'Pay the ladies well'? The price in Pattaya is the same for everyone is it not? 500 short time, 1,000 long time.[/QUOTE]
It's up to the man to tip his lady as much as he wants.
Besides the official bar fine or the massage price, it's up to the lady and the man to negotiate the rest. And some guys don't pay what they've promised to pay, especially with freelancers.
I've heard from one lady in Pattaya how she went with a really sexy guy. And he gave her only 200B in the end. He said that he will give her 300B more the next day. But the next day he was nowhere to be found.
For me 1000B was the minimum I paid for long time. And when I liked the lady a lot. Then I usually gave her 1500B every day. And I've heard from the ladies about some guys who paid them 2000B per day.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]It's up to the man to tip his lady as much as he wants.
Besides the official bar fine or the massage price, it's up to the lady and the man to negotiate the rest. And some guys don't pay what they've promised to pay, especially with freelancers.
I've heard from one lady in Pattaya how she went with a really sexy guy. And he gave her only 200B in the end. He said that he will give her 300B more the next day. But the next day he was nowhere to be found.
For me 1000B was the minimum I paid for long time. And when I liked the lady a lot. Then I usually gave her 1500B every day. And I've heard from the ladies about some guys who paid them 2000B per day.[/QUOTE]
I've heard of guys paying 3000-6000 per day.
As you've said, it is up to the guy to pay whatever he wishes. It is his money and his experience. IMO, this is like paying $20 for a can of coca cola. Very overpriced considering what you're getting (a pattaya hooker).
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Does the average WG in Pattaya really do 2 - 3 STs a day?
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During high season maybe.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Freelancers do far more short times, and in general make far more money, than the girls trapped sitting in bars.
No way. I get 500 baht freelancers. I would never consider paying more than 600 or 700 baht in Pattaya, unless it was for some serious extras.
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Are you telling me that you can get a decent freelancer in walking street for 500 bath ? Sorry , I don't believe you.
I'm telling you what kind of girl you can get for 500 bath...The desperates from Beach Road ... As I told you before.
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MarcoStraight,
I've been down on beach rd, a few times the last few months to look around especially around Soi. 13/1 13/2, several times during the day and once at night. Of course everyone has their own taste but personally I have seen some pretty decend ladies down there that I wouldn't mine doing but I'm not into short time hotels. I've approached several and nearly all the average one have quoted me 500 baht (and not bath). I've noticed that as they get better looking the price averages 700 baht, and my only visit 1 night there was a stunner standing around the street from Starbucks that quoted me 1500 baht. I also noticed during the day time around 11am the selection was better than the 1 night I was down there.
LBM
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It sounds like you got screwed on your trip Andre Cuipers. I would suggest reading through the forum a bit for tips on getting the most tail for your baht next time around. If I can help, give me a hollar.
J Ride
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so true
[QUOTE=Daddy07]In my experience, the typical go-go bar fine in Pattaya is 600 baht, but most girls will still go short time for 1000. The prima donna's want more and generally turn out to be starfish.
I couldn't agree more.
RE: The massage parlour girl.
Whether she likes me or not I really cannot say. I met her the third time and again got a magnificent freebie which I admit is totally out of character for Patts.
We had dinner before (400B for both of us) but that's hardly the price one pays, even for ST let alone LT.
I'm still trying to understand and trying to find a catch, a small detail, anything that would make me see the true picture. Till then, "maipelai"
Take care
Taka
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A few observations from this past weekend:
Tahitian Queen -- this is a go-go bar that's open during the day on Beach Road near soi postoffice. It's fairly small but the quality of girls was surprisingly good. They are asking for 300 baht ST and 1500 to the girl to do her on the premises. A bit steep, so I passed.
Peppermint - this go-go probably had at least 100 girls on Friday night. However, I'd say more than half of them have breast implants. Barfine is 600 baht, and usually 1500-2000 for ST.
Sakura 69 - this is my favorite go-go bar on Walking Street. Most of the girls here dance naked, and nearly all of them are doable. I met this cutie, Joy, with absolutely perfect big tits. Didn't want to pay the barfine (500 baht) so told her to call me the next day before work. 3:00 rolls around and she rings me up and comes to my room for a few hours. Paid her 1500 baht - well worth it as she's absolutely lovely.
Windmill -- they've still got the shower and the massage bed where the girls fool around with each other. Unfortunately all of them were mingers so I left after one beer.
Buffalo Bar -- Met a cutie here named Ta and gave her my number and told her to call me next time she's in Bangkok. We'll see. Anyway, the barfine here is an insane 600 baht - the most I've ever heard of for a beerbar. 1500 baht to the girl to do her on the premises or 2000 to to take her out. The cashier behind the counter is a definite hottie that definitely doesn't go with customers.
Massage -- Went down Soi Honey and hit my favorite massage joint on the right (forget the name). There was a 19 year old hottie out front that I chose. Went in and halfway through she flips me over for the "special". 500 baht for boom-boom and off the clothes came. She has a pair of perfect tits - young and firm. Her name was "Gip". I'll definitely be going back to see her.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]MarcoStraight,
I've been down on beach rd, a few times the last few months to look around especially around Soi. 13/1 13/2, several times during the day and once at night. Of course everyone has their own taste but personally I have seen some pretty decend ladies down there that I wouldn't mine doing but I'm not into short time hotels. I've approached several and nearly all the average one have quoted me 500 baht (and not bath). I've noticed that as they get better looking the price averages 700 baht, and my only visit 1 night there was a stunner standing around the street from Starbucks that quoted me 1500 baht. I also noticed during the day time around 11am the selection was better than the 1 night I was down there.
LBM[/QUOTE]
The fact you met some nice one on beach road doesn't change the fact that most of the girls working there are desperates .
I agree that everyone has their own taste . Black Na for is a beach road veteran...To me she's ok.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]Are you telling me that you can get a decent freelancer in walking street for 500 bath ? Sorry , I don't believe you.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not telling you that, as I have never taken a freelancer from Walking Street. I have looked for streetwalkers on Walking Street before and never saw many - most of the time none, except for a few ladyboys.
Really I have to say Walking Street is a pretty horrible facet of Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]Are you telling me that you can get a decent freelancer in walking street for 500 bath ? Sorry , I don't believe you.
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a few years back this was possible, but now days pretty rare.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]Are you telling me that you can get a decent freelancer in walking street for 500 bath ? Sorry , I don't believe you.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm telling you exactly that.
I met a quite decent freelancer on Walking Street a few weeks ago who went with me for 500 baht, and she's done so several times since. She's not a stunner, but is cute, has a nice tight body, a great attitude, and provides GFE as well.
Lots of the girls walking around with their friends on Walking Street are freelancers, and you know it when they make eye contact with you and smile.
The desperate ones you describe like to hang out in the shadows along Beach Road hoping that some nice man will take them in spite of their unattractive looks.
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Pattaya - the only sexfun place - thanks for your remark
Thanks for you positive remark on my (not perfect English) report.
The price settings I mentioned were for LT and for an older man like me (51 years). Further I refer to nice young skinny girls, strange enough if you get older you start to take even younger girls. At the beach (same as in Bangkok) you see the dollar sighns in their eyes if you talk like me to a nice/young girl. For me (and people like me) the best is to go to soi 6 where the prices are (almost) fixed. But even then you have to be kind to the girl because she is not pressured by a mamasan to go out with you. Also they prefere a much younger man above an old man and if the girl lookes nice the probability is high that she can get a better looking / younger man. And with LT you claim the whole profit she can make for the whole night. In my case. I look rather good and smile nice and are friendly. About 40% of the nice girls will go with me. But because I am not a big spender and they have to do "some work" to help me as an older guy. They rarely want to stay with me for more days.
Except the once who like to marry me (never happened in Thailand).
But then again. If they like you so much that they want to marry you they want to take control over you (don't drink beer, don't look to other girls).
It feels like you are married for 10 years just after 2 days.
So in fact I am glad that they don't come back the next day. Saves me a lot of trouble/time to get rid of her and also if she runs away earlier then the time I want to have her I feel free to skip the whole Tip giving ceremony.
(I think you only give a tip is she did what you asked her at the moment of taking out)
200 bath BF + something of 600-800 bath I payed to a girl sitting outside at the table along the street at the beerbar just south from the intersection of the boulevard and the central Pattaya road (Pattaya Klang).
I mean the first bar along the boulevard road.
But that was a 28 year old woman, friendly but with a thick belly so I just put a blanket over her belly and didn't want to do it a second time at the morning.
I think beerbars are more ment for the beerboozing (verry) older men who get too drunk to see what they are doing. Why otherwise sit in the hot humid air drinking a 40Bath beer looking to all other older western men and seeing older fat locak working women while you could take a beer for 50 bath and sit in the aircon looking to young skinny naked girls (or with a miniskirt if you can't handle that). Anwer. You do that wen you get to old/large to move over to a better place a mile further and need to stay close to your hotel.
Even the gogo bars in the beerbar areas (like soi 11/12 and at the corner of soi 13/2) have the same quality of girls. And if you have the (bad)luck like me, a 70 year old men with a fat belly wil jump on the podium just in front of you to dance with the girls "the magarita".
Never seen that in quality bars. Even 10 bath for a beer is then too much.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Freelancers do far more short times, and in general make far more money, than the girls trapped sitting in bars.
No way. I get 500 baht freelancers. I would never consider paying more than 600 or 700 baht in Pattaya, unless it was for some serious extras.
I would like to applaud [b]Andre Cuipers'[/b] excellent analysis of the Thai sex scene - it certainly leaves a lot to be desire and is very overpriced. Kudos to Andre for telling it like it is. The whole buy-a-drink thing is incredibly tiresome, particularly for those of us who do not drink.
However I can say that he's quoting some very high prices there - almost double what I'm quoted. Usually the price on the Beach is 500 baht, sometimes (rarely) less, and certainly never more unless you are getting some serious extra services.
In the go-gos of Walking Street it is typically around 500 baht barfine and 1,500 baht short time, plus the 100 baht wasted on the obligatory drink. You may have to also buy the girl a 'drink' - in other words the barfine is actually around 600-620 when you add on this offensive demand. So all in is about 2,100 - true, far more than it is worth, but not 3-4K.
I would like to know where they have 200 baht bar fines and 600 baht all night beer bar girls.. I haven't ever run accross that.[/QUOTE]
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NOT screwed on my trip dear J Ride
Thanks for you remark J Ride.
I just tell you what they asked to me for prices.
Returning from other countries I was not interested in paying 2000 Baht (all in) for LT in Pattaya (and even 4000 bath in Bangkok) to a 24+ yo woman while in other countries I payed 600-800 baht (equivalent) for 18-19 yo skinny pretty girls.
Yeah. I had a freeby from Tops foodcourt (smoking, long nails, 27 yo) a year ago. But in the same time a had a 18 yo virgen and an 17 yo girl in another country (freebies). In my reports I just mention what you would see normally.
But even if you take some time (get insight like you do) you will have similar ideas what the best city (or country) would be. What is good on the surface will only get better if you take more time.
But the best places are the one where you can enjoy youreself from the first day for every day/night (lot of bars and streetwalkers. Btw don't look in the walking street but on the pavement along the beach north of the walking street) and inbetween you can work your way down to (almost) freebies.
So I am not ripped of. They just tried to do that and already that point makes me to skip Thailand except drinking (happy hour) beers while looking to the best gogo show on earth.
I ment Also WIndmill on soi 15 from walking street like in another report. The most sleezy one I have ever seen in my life. Other men going with their fingers for 20 bath tip the the pussies. Not my taste. Give me the two girl banana trick of soi 14 (bar xxdolls) on a looking distance of 2 foot and with free food and this man is happy for a few days.
For taking a girl out I move to other countries, but to be honest. They are not so comfortable like Thailand and in most cases even the beer sucks.
So its good you found a good way J Ride.
I red a lot of tips on this site concerning Isaan/Laos and afterwards I didn't find anything there. Further I red a lot of reports of people who went banging with perfect girl for days and days and in the end there was no comment where they found that girl nor how old they were themselves. No doubt. If you are 35-40 and you look for a 25 yo women al Thai cities will offer you a lot of (almost free) pleasure. If you start getting grey hair and like the younger/skinny once you see $$$$ signs. And those I don't like I certainly never want to pay.
But a beer of 40 Baht with free food an a nice show made Pattaya the best town for me. And certainly the far best of Thailand.
Andre
[QUOTE=J Ride]It sounds like you got screwed on your trip Andre Cuipers. I would suggest reading through the forum a bit for tips on getting the most tail for your baht next time around. If I can help, give me a hollar.
J Ride[/QUOTE][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Takamine1]
RE: The massage parlour girl.
Whether she likes me or not I really cannot say. I met her the third time and again got a magnificent freebie which I admit is totally out of character for Patts.
We had dinner before (400B for both of us) but that's hardly the price one pays, even for ST let alone LT.
I'm still trying to understand and trying to find a catch, a small detail, anything that would make me see the true picture. Till then, "maipelai"
Take care
Taka[/QUOTE]
I ll tell you what.
Next time, why dont you just ask her if she wants money? but this question can be taken as an insult.
Sorry to go on a bit, but I am curious about her state of mind as you know women are usually very calculating.
all the best
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[QUOTE=Opebo]No, I'm not telling you that, as I have never taken a freelancer from Walking Street. I have looked for streetwalkers on Walking Street before and never saw many - most of the time none, except for a few ladyboys.
Really I have to say Walking Street is a pretty horrible facet of Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Sadly I have to agree with you...Walking street is becomed the headquarter of ladyboys , it reminds me PatPong with a lot of tourists and chinese people making pictures .... However still some pretty girls going to Lucifer and Marine disco (places that I hate), but the prices are 1000 up.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yes, I'm telling you exactly that.
I met a quite decent freelancer on Walking Street a few weeks ago who went with me for 500 baht, and she's done so several times since. She's not a stunner, but is cute, has a nice tight body, a great attitude, and provides GFE as well.
Lots of the girls walking around with their friends on Walking Street are freelancers, and you know it when they make eye contact with you and smile.
The desperate ones you describe like to hang out in the shadows along Beach Road hoping that some nice man will take them in spite of their unattractive looks.[/QUOTE]
Probably you're good looking farang, or it might be the "low season factor" , I keep on thinking that is not easy, almost impossible,getting a decent girl on walking for 500 ...
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marcostraight,
the conversation started by o****, which he stated that he got freelancers for 500 baht. your response was you didn't believe him! my response and daddy07, was it was possible. no time did we bring up " desperate " in the conversation! if your'e talking desperate that's another topic!
now you said black na is o.k. and a veteran of beach rd. since you posted her picture one would assume you did her? and if you did was it for 500 baht? and would you call he desperate? and since you said she was o.k. would that put her in the catagory of o.k. being the same as decent? although you noted that taste is a individual choice and after looking at black na picture which i think i have seen her before on walking street given the right time, price and situation i wouldn't turn her away. but the times i mentioned in my earlier post the one's i approached or approached me for 500 baht had a slight edge on her in looks so i certainly will stick to my opinion that as far as myself, i can and could find freelancers for 500 baht, excluding the desperation!
lbm
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]Probably you're good looking farang, or it might be the "low season factor" , I keep on thinking that is not easy, almost impossible,getting a decent girl on walking for 500 ...[/QUOTE]Although I am young, 29, I hang out with a guy that is around 50 or so when I am in Pattaya. To be honest, I never have a problem finding good looking freelancers in Pattaya (high or low season) for 500 st and 1000 lt. Patience is key.
I must admit that I have an easier time getting this price at times than my older friend but we both stick to these prices and have no problems. Just negotiate it a bit and then walk away. At the end, it will always be "UP TO YOU"
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[QUOTE=Superman79]Although I am young, 29, I hang out with a guy that is around 50 or so when I am in Pattaya. To be honest, I never have a problem finding good looking freelancers in Pattaya (high or low season) for 500 st and 1000 lt. Patience is key.
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I agree that patience is key and that you can still find 500 st, but when you got tourists grabbing the good meat and paying 1000+ st without hesitation, then it's up to you to consider how valuable your time is. How many hours are you going to spend trying to find that decent looking girl who will go for 500?
Overall, prices are going up all over this country for everything and the young cheap hooks aren't in large supply like before.
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[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]Thanks for you remark J Ride.
I just tell you what they asked to me for prices.
But in the same time a had a 18 yo virgen and an 17 yo girl in another country (freebies).
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What country?
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[QUOTE=Superman79]Although I am young, 29, I hang out with a guy that is around 50 or so when I am in Pattaya. To be honest, I never have a problem finding good looking freelancers in Pattaya (high or low season) for 500 st and 1000 lt. Patience is key.[/QUOTE]
I am young too and never have a problem with offering them 500 ST and promising them another 500 if the sex is "Very good". I find that all the girls really perform well under this incentive scheme. The thing with this strategy is never to try and cheat the girl, always honor your side of the deal if you see she has made a real effort.
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"Le Kitchen" Restaurant
Been here 2 weeks and not had time to post, but I thought I would put a quick one in about a restaurant I went to on Soi Boukhao called "Le Kitchen"
This is a buffet style dinner that are generally not renowned for there quality of food, but this place is the exception. The beef was so tender it pulled apart with the fork. There was also chicken, pork, squid and fish.
The vegetable in a cheese was out of this world!
All this for 189 bt coffee included. I can't recommend this place enough!
Directions: From beach road travel up Central road passed 2nd road and take next road on right Soi Boukhao Le Kitchen is 100 meters on the left. Open air restaurant next to LK Royal Suits Hotel.
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[QUOTE=Need More Gas]I ll tell you what.
Next time, why dont you just ask her if she wants money? but this question can be taken as an insult.
Sorry to go on a bit, but I am curious about her state of mind as you know women are usually very calculating.
all the best[/QUOTE]
I agree with you totally about being curious re her state of mind. I was mulling the idea of asking her but I reckon if she really wanted money she would either have told me or not wanted to see me again.
unfortunately i cannot test this hypothesis since i'm back home (Prince---->Frog)
Take care as usual
Taka
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Soi 6
[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]
My best bet would be soi 6 (sidestreet of the boulevard street) to get a good girl. That street is packed with girls just standing or sitting along the sidewalk.
Andre[/QUOTE]
Yes Soi 6 - Soi Blowjob, Packed with a few girls, many more ladyboys and katoys
Choose carefully
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[quote=littlebigman]marcostraight,
the conversation started by o****, which he stated that he got freelancers for 500 baht. your response was you didn't believe him! my response and daddy07, was it was possible. no time did we bring up " desperate " in the conversation! if your'e talking desperate that's another topic!
now you said black na is o.k. and a veteran of beach rd. since you posted her picture one would assume you did her? and if you did was it for 500 baht? and would you call he desperate? and since you said she was o.k. would that put her in the catagory of o.k. being the same as decent? although you noted that taste is a individual choice and after looking at black na picture which i think i have seen her before on walking street given the right time, price and situation i wouldn't turn her away. but the times i mentioned in my earlier post the one's i approached or approached me for 500 baht had a slight edge on her in looks so i certainly will stick to my opinion that as far as myself, i can and could find freelancers for 500 baht, excluding the desperation!
lbm[/quote]
desperate doesn't mean ugly. na looks good to me but she's desperate now, that's the reason i don't take her anymore. she's into ya-ba (drugs) , like most of the girls selling their bodies on beach road for 500 bath only.
the conversation started about getting girl in walking street for 500 b. wich , i repeat again , is veeeeryyyy difficult. if you guys can get decent girls in walking for 500 bath, no problem ! it does mean there's something wrong with me, ok ?
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am young too and never have a problem with offering them 500 ST and promising them another 500 if the sex is "Very good". I find that all the girls really perform well under this incentive scheme. The thing with this strategy is never to try and cheat the girl, always honor your side of the deal if you see she has made a real effort.[/QUOTE]
Problem is, you give the girl 500.... I doubt she will answer your call again...
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Good Thai Massage
Hi all
Headed to PAt for a few days and I am craving a legityimate 2 hour Thai massage adn 1 hour ft massage. I get almost every day that I am in Thailand I will swear on a stack of Bibles Thai massage ahs saved my life or at least my back.
Looking for a good place no sex required. Hot tea, smiling massues etc, will be staying on Soi 6 or 8 somewhere there in Pat.
PM me if you can or post here.
JJ
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[QUOTE=Just Jim]Hi all
Headed to PAt for a few days and I am craving a legityimate 2 hour Thai massage adn 1 hour ft massage. I get almost every day that I am in Thailand I will swear on a stack of Bibles Thai massage ahs saved my life or at least my back.
Looking for a good place no sex required. Hot tea, smiling massues etc, will be staying on Soi 6 or 8 somewhere there in Pat.
PM me if you can or post here.
JJ[/QUOTE]Soi 12 from 2nd road first mp on left hand side. 150bt thai and 200bt oil.
Chunky lady and old lady good!
No flicky dicky either, well they do not me anyway!
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[QUOTE=Just Jim]Hi all
Headed to PAt for a few days and I am craving a legityimate 2 hour Thai massage adn 1 hour ft massage.
Looking for a good place no sex required. Hot tea, smiling massues etc, will be staying on Soi 6 or 8 somewhere there in Pat.
JJ[/QUOTE]
"Number One Massage" at the end of Soi 6 by Beach Road is an excellent massage shop. Recommend you use Anna, a small mid-aged woman who gives a powerful foot/Thai massage.
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[QUOTE=Just Jim]Hi all
Headed to PAt for a few days and I am craving a legityimate 2 hour Thai massage adn 1 hour ft massage. I get almost every day that I am in Thailand I will swear on a stack of Bibles Thai massage ahs saved my life or at least my back.
Looking for a good place no sex required. Hot tea, smiling massues etc, will be staying on Soi 6 or 8 somewhere there in Pat.
PM me if you can or post here.
JJ[/QUOTE]Best massage - and that´s not only my opinion - is by blind men in Naklua.
So that actually quite near soi 6.
Beaware, it take a few minutes to get used to the looks. They are not the prettiest. That where the Thaipeople go. cost about 130 for 1 hour
Another Place i can recommend is in Yensabai. It´s called HighwayStar as far i can remember.
No tourist rip off. Friendly service.
cost 200/hour
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naklua is near soi 6 like walking street is near the BUS STATION
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]naklua is near soi 6 like walking street is near the BUS STATION[/QUOTE]
Agree....Naklua is nowhere near Soi 6.
My personal favorite massage place (without happy endings) is on the soi right before walking street. It's called Harmony Massage. They'll give you a cup of hot tea before you begin and then you walk upstairs. The rooms are quite nice as well.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]naklua is near soi 6 like walking street is near the BUS STATION[/QUOTE]
............. :D
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Naklua and tourist rip offs
Well,
Naklua in fact is well within walking distance from Soi 6. Unless you're talking North Naklua:).
So the blind men aren't the prettiest? I really can't see a connection to 'men looking for sex with women', but no doubt, some will argue that that's beside the point:(.
Please explain how B200 an hour for a simple Thai massage is not a tourist rip off. I never paid more than B200 for two full hours.
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[QUOTE=Freeler]Naklua in fact is well within walking distance from Soi 6.[/QUOTE]A rather nice walk too, up the beach and around the big curve. Or if that's too much work, catch a Nakleua-bound songthaew at the top of Soi 6 and you'll be there in about three minutes. That's 'nowhere near'?
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[QUOTE=Freeler]Please explain how B200 an hour for a simple Thai massage is not a tourist rip off. I never paid more than B200 for two full hours.[/QUOTE]
Where? The posted/quoted price in Pattaya, Bangkok, etc., is almost invariably 400 for two hours. In Isaan I find it is mostly 240 for two hours - at least that is what I and my Thai acquaintances pay.
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Pattaya lodging
Hello,
Would someone please post or pm me a recommendation for a hotel in Pattaya that has wireless wifi access in the room?
Something along the lines of the flipper house or flipper lodge, but with wi fi access from room, not only lobby.
Thanks for the info.
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Where?
Opebo, since I said I never paid more then it means everywhere, including: Pats, Phuket, Korat, CR, Hua Hin, Roi ET (the best!), Krabi (also the best!)
Regards,
Freeler
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[QUOTE=Masthope]Hello,
Would someone please post or pm me a recommendation for a hotel in Pattaya that has wireless wifi access in the room?
Something along the lines of the flipper house or flipper lodge, but with wi fi access from room, not only lobby.
Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Mac. in South Pattaya has it on the 2th or 4th floor,don't remember, you just ask.
The hotel is nice, prices are acceptables, and it's near walking street.
[url]http://www.mrmachotel.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mrmachotel.com/pattayahotelfacilities.html[/url]
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WiFi in Pattaya
[QUOTE=Masthope]Hello,
Would someone please post or pm me a recommendation for a hotel in Pattaya that has wireless wifi access in the room?
Something along the lines of the flipper house or flipper lodge, but with wi fi access from room, not only lobby.
Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]The Nova Platinum has free wireless internet throughout the hotel.
[url]http://www.amari.com/novaplatinum/[/url]
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pig and whistle wi-fi
[QUOTE=Masthope]Hello,
Would someone please post or pm me a recommendation for a hotel in Pattaya that has wireless wifi access in the room?
Something along the lines of the flipper house or flipper lodge, but with wi fi access from room, not only lobby.
Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]This has been my problem for me for the last two year. I like soi 7 & 8 but could not find a hotel with wi-fi, so this time i did some pains taking footwork.
best by far is the pig and Whistle soi 7 &d 750 bt per night and excellent quality.
I did have problems connection up to there wi-fi, i had to adjust some setting to get connected. What makes it worse is the hotel managers do not have a clue about it either.
you are also limited on room that can connect. I am writing this from room 7, which has very good signal. I am re booking this room again on the 10 to 17 Sept, so in other words if you want it during this time find another room! ha ha
Another guest house/bar just around the corner is "Bar Drie Angel" continue down soi 7 from 2nd road passed P & W and it is next road on right opposite eagle bar. Also has wi-fi but it was playing up when i was there, so i moved out!
World wide bar on soi 7 also picks up a free wi-fi signal and also only 35 bt a beer all night long!
Other hotel/guest houses are penthouse Suites, but what out for all the add ons on the price quoted! soi 13/4 i think.
drunkard duck, Metro and red Five Shop all on soi LK just off soi Diana have wi-fi in rooms as well.
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[QUOTE=Freeler]Where?
Opebo, since I said I never paid more then it means everywhere, including: Pats, Phuket, Korat, CR, Hua Hin, Roi ET (the best!), Krabi (also the best!)
Regards,
Freeler[/QUOTE]
Oh, I thought you meant there was a place that normally charged this, or posted this price. I'd never seen one anywhere, so I was curious. It must be more of a personal discount.
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Opebo,
"It must be more of a personal discount."
Happens to me all the time:)
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Prices
I never discuss the prices. Thanks to this forum I always have an idea of the current prices, take the girl, and after the service (be it massage, be it lt, be it st, or else) I give her the average price. They actually accept because the price of the forum is the real actual current price.
In PTY short-time from street-girls is invariably 400-500 baht. Long time 800-1500bt. Girls from beer bars is the same, plus bar-fine (500 ST 1000 LT + 200/300baht BF). Girls from go-go bars are consistently more expensive
In winter the prices go a up.
It is better never ask for the price. You know it, and she knows it too.
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[QUOTE=Mikle]I never discuss the prices...It is better never ask for the price. You know it, and she knows it too.[/QUOTE]
Never say never, Mikle.
Sometimes you'll get a nasty surprise when you hand her 1000 baht with a smile, but she demands 1500. It's happened to me a few times now.
And sometimes your much anticipated BBBJ turns into a lousy CBJ because you didn't discuss the terms of service as well.
It's a jungle out there. :D
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[QUOTE=Bold Focker]This has been my problem for me for the last two year. I like soi 7 & 8 but could not find a hotel with wi-fi, so this time i did some pains taking footwork.
best by far is the pig and Whistle soi 7 &d 750 bt per night and excellent quality.
I did have problems connection up to there wi-fi, i had to adjust some setting to get connected. What makes it worse is the hotel managers do not have a clue about it either.
you are also limited on room that can connect. I am writing this from room 7, which has very good signal. I am re booking this room again on the 10 to 17 Sept, so in other words if you want it during this time find another room! ha ha
Another guest house/bar just around the corner is "Bar Drie Angel" continue down soi 7 from 2nd road passed P & W and it is next road on right opposite eagle bar. Also has wi-fi but it was playing up when i was there, so i moved out!
World wide bar on soi 7 also picks up a free wi-fi signal and also only 35 bt a beer all night long!
Other hotel/guest houses are penthouse Suites, but what out for all the add ons on the price quoted! soi 13/4 i think.
drunkard duck, Metro and red Five Shop all on soi LK just off soi Diana have wi-fi in rooms as well.[/QUOTE]
Queen Victoria on soi 6, 500-800 bhat rooms-800 ones are spot on, wifi is excellent, and you're on soi 6!
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[QUOTE=Takamine1]This is were it gets interesting!! Went to small MP in soi 7, opposite Anna Jet's. Before going in, I spent some time talking to the girl. She wasn't a stunner, but she was sweet and had a pleasant personality. The massage was excellent (300B+50B tip-no extras). I got her number and phoned her the next day. We went to the cinema, then for a coffee. One thing led to another and she came up to my room. It was an atomic experience (and absolutely free). The next day I met her again and did her again. I slept like a baby.
The fact is, if she wanted money she wouldn't have wanted to see me the second time. She never mentioned money!
Guys....there are places in Patts were you can get talking to a girl in a setting far removed from the bar scene. At Mike's shopping mall the girls aren't stunners but they're sweet and if you act decent and make them smile you can ask for their number. The rest is "Up to you"....... I cannot perfect my strategy and I cannot say that's it's foolproof. But I did wanted to share this with you people.
Take care,
Taka[/QUOTE]They are too shy to ask but they need extra funds. I've taken a couple from that same place and they are not pros. None of the two asked for money BUT the know funds are usually passes as a form of "gratuity". Remember, you are in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Mikle]In PTY short-time from street-girls is invariably 400-500 baht.[/QUOTE]The other day a beach walker quoted a 1000 st on the open.
A true sign the economy isn't so good. Thai logic: "Let's double prices when times are tough to make up for the missed income".
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[QUOTE=Kaukaukane]They are too shy to ask but they need extra funds. I've taken a couple from that same place and they are not pros. None of the two asked for money BUT the know funds are usually passes as a form of "gratuity". Remember, you are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]You may be very right and I may be very wrong. I really don't know. I talked to some guys who live in Patts and they told me it was very strange that she didn't ask for any money at any time.
Anyway i'm back home now. So I've got another 11 months thinking about it.
Take care,
Taka
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For Marcostraight
I don't know how long you been going there, but you want to wake up, there are plenty of quality girls on beach road, and in some cases top quality. I have 3-4 on the go when I go there.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight]Probably you're good looking farang, or it might be the "low season factor" , I keep on thinking that is not easy, almost impossible,getting a decent girl on walking for 500 ...[/QUOTE]
....I think a lot of it has to do with what time it is and where you are staying (i.e. not a long distance from Walking Street). Also, how you present yourself at the initial stroll has a factor in this, as the girls adjust prices if they think there is something about you that won't make the experience painful (I'm not talking dick size...I'm talking emotional strife).
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Pothai or Pojives? right next to Sabai Water Massage
They have the best theraputic massage in Pattaya. The girls all have great different techniques, but won't do a back crack and it gets kind of noisy when the chinese tour bus patrons are near your area. The place with the blind (same sex) masseus on the other side of the road back toward the water is good as well. They do the deep tissue massage. I sure to miss those Thai massages over here in Nablualand!!
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Dangerous business
I was strolling along Beach Road on Wednesday evening when I spotted a large crowd outside a hotel in Soi 13/? Police and ambulance too. Apparently a Thai man had taken a young lady back to his hotel, has engaged in a strenuous session of bonking, overdid his exertions, promptly had a heart attack and died on the scene.
Be warned...
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]I was strolling along Beach Road on Wednesday evening when I spotted a large crowd outside a hotel in Soi 13/? Police and ambulance too. Apparently a Thai man had taken a young lady back to his hotel, has engaged in a strenuous session of bonking, overdid his exertions, promptly had a heart attack and died on the scene.
Be warned...[/QUOTE]Why?
If your number is called, I defy anybody to tell me a better way of pegging out. In the saddle, with my still smoking gun in hand. That is the way I want to go:D
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Why??
If your number is called, I defy anybody to tell me a better way of pegging out. In the saddle, with my still smoking gun in hand ... that is the way I want to go:D[/QUOTE]Yep cumming and going at the same time.
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Cumming and going
Yeah, hit by a barrel of fresh brewed beer while you are finishing your last shot.
Cheers,
C.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]I don't know how long you been going there, but you want to wake up, there are plenty of quality girls on beach road, and in some cases top quality. I have 3-4 on the go when I go there.[/QUOTE]
I think that we give to the word "quality" a different meaning.
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Guys, I read a lot on Bangkok massage thread but looking for lots of advice on Pattaya MP??? I tend to do Gogo most of the time so I'm kooking for advice on MP
Johnthescot
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John and Marco
I spent 2 weeks in Pattaya, going to go go bars daily including Happy A Go Go
where the nudes feel embarassed (?) when you look at her part too long and
Sisters A Go Go.Never felt a need for massage though there are tons around, more than a go gos.The two times I had a massage I met a lady in the daytime on Walking Street trying to go to Bali Hai pier and she took me to my room insteadl lol, and the second time I asked a beach road girl to massage me in my room.Both times I could strip them and shower too.
For the girl who took me back to my room in her scooter she says she is a
waitress in her sister's restaurant in Naklua.Scammed a beer and fried chicken from mee too.As she left my room someone on the same floor also called her in for service.
Anyway you only pay 200 baht for a massage anywhere though I saw a joint offering massage for 199 baht.Wonder where the 1b goes to
I agree with Marco as I got one 22 year old whose parents are teachers in
Isaan and who works in a supermarket.Regret sending her back after short time and called her 5 days later as she was booked solid till she went back
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Beach Road
I might add the downside of being over 60 is that you cannot screw more than the mandatory once a week though your girl is a stunner compared to the 7 times overnight in your 30s.The only way you can compensate is to
delay ejaculation so that you can go 3 or 4 rounds a night but it may spoil your sleep.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys, I read a lot on Bangkok massage thread but looking for lots of advice on Pattaya MP???[/QUOTE]
For soapies I like Sabai Room. There are three or four khon chia (what do we call this in English -- pimps?), but the one to talk to is the old guy with the glasses.
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[QUOTE=Betong]For soapies I like Sabai Room. There are three or four khon chia (what do we call this in English -- pimps?), but the one to talk to is the old guy with the glasses.[/QUOTE]
I think you call the material on the bathtubs in that place.....fungus, black mold and bad smelling mildew. The place is owned by a Hong Kong businessman who doesn't give a crap about the girls or the customers.....evidenced by the condition of the rooms and the smell in the rooms. Also, they put girls to work who just come into the place for work.....waiting until the next HIV test cycle to get their tests....and that is the most dangerous time....as brothel owners will tell you (i.e. the most tests positive are from new workers). I think you are a lot better off across the street where the rooms are clean and the policy different.
(also, Noi was a mamasan there for at least 15 years.....when she asked for a few more baht salary, they just fired her and told her to eat sand...real nice!!)
(also, also...agree about the old guy....but don't take any suggestions from him...he is only making suggestions to satisfy his own financial arangements and not your sexual desires.....the place is a complete crapshoot)
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2] I think you are a lot better off across the street where the rooms are clean and the policy different.[/QUOTE]
You mean Sabailand? The rooms are clean now only because they've just been redone after being ignored even longer than Sabai Room's. Sabailand was certainly the pick of Pattaya soapies through the '80s and early '90s but over the past ten years or so I've had consistently better experiences at SR. In fact I had yet another dud at SL just last week (#105, Phen, nice girl with no aptitude, recommended by the head guy there).
ALL these places are indeed crapshoots unless you have a solid recommendation, preferably from a fellow customer. But over many years the old guy at SR has never steered me wrong, and has put me on to some great talent. How he treats customers he doesn't know well, especially ones who don't speak Thai, I have no idea.
Selection is pretty thin at both these places now, and probably won't pick up till around November.
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[QUOTE=Betong]You mean Sabailand? The rooms are clean now only because they've just been redone after being ignored even longer than Sabai Room's. Sabailand was certainly the pick of Pattaya soapies through the '80s and early '90s but over the past ten years or so I've had consistently better experiences at SR. In fact I had yet another dud at SL just last week (#105, Phen, nice girl with no aptitude, recommended by the head guy there).
ALL these places are indeed crapshoots unless you have a solid recommendation, preferably from a fellow customer. But over many years the old guy at SR has never steered me wrong, and has put me on to some great talent. How he treats customers he doesn't know well, especially ones who don't speak Thai, I have no idea.
Selection is pretty thin at both these places now, and probably won't pick up till around November.[/QUOTE]
No, I mean Sabai Dee....Sabai Land......is indeed another mildew and fungus jungle. Reality is that if there are five girls in the bowl, the mama/papa/pimp will call out a number...or maybe a few numbers. They are trying to make a sale......maybe if he likes you (i.e. you have tipped him), he won't steer you to a girl who he has heard complaints about (if and only if there are others available). The bottom line is that he doesn't know what goes on in the room, customers from different areas of the world are interested in different activites and, unless a guy complains or is rejected (and tries to make another choice)......the touts really don't have a clue in that venue. I have been to a place like Tulip in BKk where you can discuss what you want and the manager will tell you yes or no on certain girls (anal, big penis issues, experienced collector of sperm, etc.).
I lived and worked in Thailand for many years and these places were visited very, very often. I have sat with the old guy for over an hour and talked to him. He is a decent guy for a papa......but still has a personal interest for the house...not you.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]No, I mean Sabai Dee[/QUOTE]
Ah, that's the only one of the three I've never liked. Maybe just bad luck, but the khon chia always had an attitude, treating all farang like tourists. And I seem to recall that their pricing isn't all in, i.e. you've got to negotiate with the girl for extras . . . ?
There's an art to getting good recommendations from these guys, as I learned years ago when going to MPs with Thai colleagues. You have to ask the right questions and not always the obvious ones. For example, is there anyone else here you recommend? Meaning the girls who are too exclusive to sit in the tank (like the famous Phuphe of Sabai Room) or who are upstairs working, as of course most of the best ones will be at any given time.
I agree that some of the guys don't necessarily know much about the girls except for their overall popularity, but the more switched on ones do (and strangely enough, female khon chia almost always do). And of course they're only looking out for themselves, which is why you make it in their financial interest to give you the very best they have. I don't always tip and I seldom give much, but when the old guy at SR does things like calling in girls for me on their day off (one was with her boyfriend on Jomthien Beach!) I've been pretty generous.
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The official AOT Limos are now eye-gouging tourist Bht3000 for BKK to Pattaya transfers now that the private operators have been prevented from soliciting business there. Most airports in other countries may charge a small premium to give travelers the comfort that they are not going to be ripped off by touts, but at 2 or 3 times the going rate, it looks like the “official” transportation are the rip-offs.
I first hit Oasis and there were plenty of hot girls there. I made a mental note to return there the next day.
My first night took me back to Boesche, where I was glad to see Puki again. It was a no brainer for me to BF her Bht1500 ST and she gave the same excellent service. This time instead of paying the full Bht600 BF, a game of chance is involved, where you spin a wheel and possibly pay no BF. From memory the possibility of a freebie is like 1 in 12, with a 50% chance of paying the full Bht600 BF and lesser BF amounts falling somewhere in between. This time my BF was Bht400. There was another new girl (possibly days old in the business) dancing naked on the stage. Her body was a perfect 10/10 but her face was only average. Puki saw me looking and said I should come back tomorrow for her.
I went to the bars across the road from my hotel for Tip but she was nowhere to be found on this trip. However at the New-Orn bar I did sight this hottie where on my last trip 2 punters were trying to bid for her. See my previous Pattaya report for more info.
Day 2. I wondered along to the back of my hotel LK Renaissance to Hell Club etc and other bars I never knew existed. I ended up picking up a hot slim girl from Oasis called LB (not necessarily spelled that way but sounded like that). BF was B590 and her ST tip was B1000. I think the place only opened at 3pm, when I went there were only a few girls and the mama-san was reluctant to release her for an ST outside the premises but agreed because my hotel was so close. She was pretty good and I got my BBBJ. I ordered some room service which she ate very little of as she was watching her weight.
I met up with fellow ISG member Gagoo. I first went to the Classroom to see if Da (#142) was there, I had been dreaming about her since my last visit, but she was away during the entire time I was there. She still wasn’t in so we hit a few Go-go bars. There were less hotties at the Beach Club this time than my previous visit. But Gagoo showed me Peppermints and Happy A Go go. There were plenty of hotties there but I decided on Waey at Boesche another slim petite hottie. The great thing about Puki was that she was perfectly fine with me going with another girl where most other bars they can get a little disappointed if you don’t pick them again. Waey turned out pretty good. Bought her some food from street vendors B25 then got BBBJ with LT. Another round in the morning. All up B2000. Initially she wanted another B500 for a second round but was happy with the B2000 I gave her.
My last night I met with Gagoo again and his Canadian friend. Unfortunately his friend preferred the bars in the Soi3 area rather than go-go bars so he split up, Gagoo and I headed towards the go-go bars of walking street. We first made a detour to Classroom to see if Da (#142) was around and this time she was! She was everything like she looked like on the site, so I told her I would first tour the bars and would return for her. At Happy a-go-go I spotted a slim hottie that was giving me the eye. However, despite my weakness for skinny girls, I decided to pass on her on return to the Classroom for Da. So I bid Gagoo farewell and we went our separate ways. Back at the Classroom I told Da that the only thing I was after was regular sex with BBBJ, once at night and then again in the morning, which she agreed. She had her own motorbike and gave me a lift back to my hotel. I did get my BBBJ but not my second shot in the morning and insisted on her full B2000 payment. I thought WTF would anyone want a LT without at least a second round in the morning. Also she has had a kid and unfortunately her pussy was not as tight as Puki’s so I did not really bother to press on and waste my energy with what would be a mediocre second round anyway. Anyone tried the Classroom airport pickup service with the girl? I wonder what sort of services are available? Anyway Da is the only decent looking girl at The Classroom and if that was service you got, I would not be returning and can’t recommend it to anyone else either. More unfortunate that my last night was wasted on her when I could have gone back to Waey, Puki or even tried that hottie at Happy. I guess with all things you never know until you try and post my reivewi here for the benefit of others.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Ah, that's the only one of the three I've never liked. Maybe just bad luck, but the khon chia always had an attitude, treating all farang like tourists. And I seem to recall that their pricing isn't all in, i.e. you've got to negotiate with the girl for extras . . . ?
There's an art to getting good recommendations from these guys, as I learned years ago when going to MPs with Thai colleagues. You have to ask the right questions and not always the obvious ones. For example, is there anyone else here you recommend? Meaning the girls who are too exclusive to sit in the tank (like the famous Phuphe of Sabai Room) or who are upstairs working, as of course most of the best ones will be at any given time.
I agree that some of the guys don't necessarily know much about the girls except for their overall popularity, but the more switched on ones do (and strangely enough, female khon chia almost always do). And of course they're only looking out for themselves, which is why you make it in their financial interest to give you the very best they have. I don't always tip and I seldom give much, but when the old guy at SR does things like calling in girls for me on their day off (one was with her boyfriend on Jomthien Beach!) I've been pretty generous.[/QUOTE]
Either you are a bit confused....or YMMV strikes again!! In my experience, Sabailand was the place that had the general entry and the separate negotiation with the girl. That has changed (I was there last month)...and it is now all in (1600b) plus tip for exceptional service of course!!. Sabai Dee has always been all in.....from the first day they were opened....and I was there for the event. I made a pick at Sabai Dee in May....and it was surely all in....no negotiation at all. 100%, for me......both are currently all in.....Sabai Land was the only one that ever had the entry option with the negotiation in the room with the girl......Sabai Land had a decent selection and the papas were OK. I have never been treated like a tourist at Sabai Dee......I park in the attached garage and enter through the back entrance.....get a drink.....the papas are all giving out their opinions (at least giving out numbers)........and yes....there are a lot of bused in Chinese tourists. Sabai Dee is the newer place with the nice wood paneling in the entry area and rooms. Sabai Dee always has a large selection with some real gems to be found.
Sabai Room has had at least 2 incidents that I know of where girls tested positive for HIV after being with a lot of customers (between HIV test cycles).....and at least one girl was kept working when the manager knew she was the victim of an active case of tuberculosis (which is one thing I personally am very afraid of). This girl's Thai boyfriend died of TB....and the management knowing this....and seeing that she was very sick...allowed her to work as she was testing neg. for HIV. It got so bad that girls working there got concerned that they were getting coughed on...and knowing that the boyfriend died.......got very upset. I just don't like that place because they don't give a shit about the customers, workers, or anyone for that matter.......only the baht counts...........
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Massage Parours and their reputation
Mr. Lover Boy # 2
I agree with the first part of your statement. In the moment only Diamond VIP Massage allows to negotiate the prize with the girls. You pay 700 Baht for the normal use ( Cleaning your body in the Jacuzzi and foam body massage on the air mattress). All things after have to be negotiated with the girls.
And you are right that the Hongkong Chinese owner of Sabaii Room sucks out his profit without renovating the rooms. I wonder how long that works well.
Your second part- that’s coming it strong. I hope you know that you can compromise the reputation of that massage parlour with such kind of statements. How could you check the truth content of this defamatory statement? I know myself, that the girls often chatter humbug, especially when they are angry about something or work for another MP.
I am since about 9 years a customer of all 4 MP’s. And I know the Papasan of Sabaii Room very well. He always gave me serious and good advices when I asked him about the girls. And of course he looks sometimes on his own business. But finally I can say: As the question, so the answer.
And by the way, I have never heart such things about Tb and HIV positive girls who are allowed to work after the infection is known. And my lady who stayed together with me since about 5 years didn’t know about such incidents. And believe me, the girls have a lot of time to chit chat while sitting in the fishbowl.
As I am just now in Pattaya, I will ask him about that things. Curious about the answer. And I will inform you in time.
Take care
Lemon Tree
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[quote=poopbunny]the official aot limos are now eye-gouging tourist bht3000 for bkk to pattaya transfers now that the private operators have been prevented from soliciting business there. most airports in other countries may charge a small premium to give travelers the comfort that they are not going to be ripped off by touts, but at 2 or 3 times the going rate, it looks like the “official” transportation are the rip-offs.
[/quote]i got a private taxi / limo from the airport to pattaya for 1100 bht last week from the arrivals level by gate 7. i would normally go to the departures level and negotiate a price there, and would anticipate spending no more than 1000 bht.
for what it is worth, i got a taxi from pattaya to the airport for an agreed price of 800 bht. the driver then wanted money for tolls (100 bht), and asked for a 100 bht tip at the end. no.
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My experiences on not getting cheated!
I took Bell Travel from the Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for 150THB and thought the experience was superb. I received the information at
Pattayanewbie.com/bell.html
I would have returned with them but my exit flight was early in the morning (4:00) long before their last airport return shuttle (19:00 the previous day) and too late for their first shuttle that day (6:00).
When I hired a taxi from one of the many "taxi reservation stations" I found one that acceptable English was spoken (to avoid the "misunderstandings" that usually mean the ATM/Bankomat farang has to pay more to avoid an unpleasant argument with the taxi driver) and negotiated the 800THB Pattaya. Airport return fee to include the tolls and NO tip expected (as I am such a trusting soul, I had this written in English and Thai on my reservation receipt).
Lastly, and I am sure this will frost the balls of many of the "Overpay Oscars" out in the ISG Thai "La-La" land, when my "no money. No honey" girlfriend insisted she go to the airport with me and wait I gave her the 150THB to return to Pattaya on Bell Travel and saved the rest of my baht for the next trip and other p4p!
I'm doing my part to contain p4p costs in Thailand, are you doing yours?
From what I have read, probably not!
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[QUOTE=Lexb]I took Bell Travel from the Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for 150THB and thought the experience was superb...[/QUOTE]
Are you sure it wasn't 1500THB?
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Daddy07,
Lexb, is right 150 baht. When I left Pattaya to come back to the states in beginning of August I took Bell Travel which is at the regular bus station. The office is on the right in a buildng separate from the regular ticket windows that sell ticket for other destinations throughout Thailand.
My bus was to leave at 11:00am to the airport. I had purchased the ticket a few days before I left. I was dropped off at 10AM, I went inside gave my receipt to the desk and they gave me a ticket with a seat assignment 1A, big A/C bus, they took and loaded my luggage and at 11:05 the bus pull out of the station only half full, went straight for the motorway and off we were to the airport and you don't have to worry about the toll cost, all included. By 12:30 we reach the airport. Great service and price! I don't see how they can make money?
LBM
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Week day or Weekend?
I will be in Bangkok in October. I want to go to Pattaya to check out the world famous insanity.
I can go down either on a Monday/Tuesday or a Friday/Saturday. Which is better for action?
I's assume that weekdays = mellower / maybe more choices, less pressure. BUT, what do I miss by not being there on the crazier days?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Daddy07,
Lexb, is right 150 baht. LBM[/QUOTE]
Oh, OK, I stand corrected. Reading his post, I didn't get that it was a bus, and not a taxi service.
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Pattaya soapies
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Either you are a bit confused....or YMMV strikes again!![/QUOTE]
Probably some of both!
Anyhow maybe the moral of the story for the OP or any other newcomer would be to take a look into all three of these places (Sabailand, Sabaidee, and Sabai Room), since they're only a few steps from each other. After a few visits you'll probably have a favorite of your own.
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The latest from Walking Street....
Club Boesche -- hadn't been in here for a while so we walked in and sat on the couch in front of the jacuzzi. Watched 2 hotties eat each other out, but for the most part they were just standing around, splashing water on each other. Clearly yaba addicts. They kept asking us to buy them each tequila shots. Spoiled bitches weren't even willing to sit down with us and yet they want us to buy them drinks? One was quite fit but she knew it - wasn't interested in sitting down with anyone. Probably has a few atms on the side sending her cash. They do have a new concept here. If you choose to pay the bar, they give you a little spin grid. Spin the arrow and it lands on an amount - and that's your barfine. Half of the spaces are 600 baht, but you do have a chance to get it for free, or 300, 400, or 500.
Heaven Above --- This place is just okay. I probably won't come back here. There was a little 18-year old hottie working at one of the bars on Soi 6 who also works here, but she had no interest in being barfined; she'd rather dance with her friends. Only half of the dancers actually take their clothes off; the other half just dance around in school uniforms.
Sakura 69 - still one of the best places in town. Nearly all of the girls here are nude, and very friendly. I sat down with my regular hottie, Joy, and bought her a drink. She's tall with big beautiful natural breasts - some of the best I've ever seen. I told her to come over the next day around 3, I offered 1500 if she did. She came over the next day, gave me a weak BBBJ and said it hurt too much when we tried to have sex. Didn't even put it in. Finally gave up and she said that she was going home. She asked for 1000 baht. I said no way. She told me that she had to go to the doctor. Now I know for a fact that Thais can visit the doctor anytime they want and the most they'll get charged is 50-60 baht for meds and a checkup. I offered 200 baht. She said no. I finally caved at 500 baht, but she still left unhappy. No way I would give 1000 baht --- we didn't even have sex!!!!
Happy -- spoiled bitches with bored looks on their faces. Lots of Japanese come here to get fucked over on the prices.
Utopia -- this place is at the end of walking street. It's an outside go-go (no nudity, though). It's got a pool table, and girls are dancing on pedestals outside. We went in and ordered drinks. There are about 7 girls in here who are fit spinners, but they have no interest in talking to customers. We were the only ones in there and all of them were just chatting to their friends. I suspect most of them have atms, judging from their cell phones and jewelry.
Babydolls -- this place is right next to Sakura, and I have to say that it's absolutely insane!!! After 1:30 the barfine goes down to 300 baht. We went in about 1:45 and the place was just going wild. There were full on lesbian shows on both sides of the club. I saw at least 2 guys getting blowjobs from various girls. My friend even got a blowjob from a dancer in the bar for 200 baht! I barfined an 18-year old hottie named "Oh". She's a sweetie, and I gave her 2k for LT (tried to negotiate for a lower rate but she wasn't going for less). The girl is a complete nympho - one of the best fucks I've ever had. Perfect breasts. They were so perfect, that I mistook them for silicon.
Oasis --- this is a good place to go in the afternoon. They've got nice rooms upstairs, and the barfine is only 300, and 1000 to the girl for ST.
Champagne --- Not many hot girls here, but there are a few. Went in here about 10pm and saw the shower show. There's a shower with a glass window and 3 girls got in and bathed each other. One of the girls is the epitomy of filth --- she's got about 25 piercings, and at least that many tattoos of various butterflies and scorpions. I went in here looking for a girl named "Yui", who was on the cover of After Dark magazine last month. Didn't find her --- next time.
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[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]I's assume that weekdays = mellower / maybe more choices, less pressure. BUT, what do I miss by not being there on the crazier days?[/QUOTE]
Nothing. (That's all I wanted to write, but the board software won't allow a message shorter than ten words.)
Evil
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mangofan
I enjoyed your report. I like the reports that describe clubs and give prices.
thanks,
horatio
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Are you sure it wasn't 1500THB?[/QUOTE]
You can hire your own taxi from departure level for about 1200THB if you negotiate a little. Taxi driver wiil be happy at this price beleive me.
I am doing it in case I have to wait long for the next bus.
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[QUOTE=Horatio]mangofan
I enjoyed your report. I like the reports that describe clubs and give prices.
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Mangofan
I concur with Horatio. Nice one, thanks.
Question for anybody / everybody:
Anybody flown into U Tapao and know how much to expect for a taxi into Pattaya? 1stoppattaya.com quotes "no more than 300 baht", is this accurate?
Cheers
Sonic
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[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Mangofan
I concur with Horatio. Nice one, thanks.
Question for anybody / everybody:
Anybody flown into U Tapao and know how much to expect for a taxi into Pattaya? 1stoppattaya.com quotes "no more than 300 baht", is this accurate?
Cheers
Sonic[/QUOTE]
I have flowen into U Tapao twice with bangkok air from Phuket (you can also get from Samui to U Tapao as well).
It is a military base as well.
The first time I caught a minibus for 250 bht (it is now 300bht) but it will only drop you off on a certain route so I walk to the hotel was required.
The second time I prebooked a taxi Mr T from Pattaya and this was 700bht inc tip. The airport taxi is at least 1000bht.
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Daddy07,
You're not in love are you Daddy?
The bus service is just like a taxi, and cheaper. You got money left for a 2 hour massage with a happy ending!
LBM
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Hello Everyone
Hi All,
This is my first posting. I can't wait to visit Pattaya!
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]The second time I prebooked a taxi Mr T from Pattaya and this was 700bht inc tip. The airport taxi is at least 1000bht.[/QUOTE]
Thieving feckers!!!!
Flying in from Samui. Would have been as well to fly to BKK and get a ride from there at those prices!
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Exactly 2 months and counting before my return to paradise.
See you all soon!
J Ride
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Daddy07,
You're not in love are you Daddy?
The bus service is just like a taxi, and cheaper...[/QUOTE]
What's love got to do with it? :)
Bus is different than Taxi and cheaper because there are usually several more passengers and you don't control where it stops and goes.
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Eastiny Plaza/Soi 7
Does anyone know if Eastiny Plaza or Eastiny Place on Soi 7 is GF. Do they have a joiner fee? security checks IDs?
EB
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Mr. Lover Boy # 2
I agree with the first part of your statement. In the moment only Diamond VIP Massage allows to negotiate the prize with the girls. You pay 700 Baht for the normal use ( Cleaning your body in the Jacuzzi and foam body massage on the air mattress). All things after have to be negotiated with the girls.
And you are right that the Hongkong Chinese owner of Sabaii Room sucks out his profit without renovating the rooms. I wonder how long that works well.
Your second part- that’s coming it strong. I hope you know that you can compromise the reputation of that massage parlour with such kind of statements. How could you check the truth content of this defamatory statement? I know myself, that the girls often chatter humbug, especially when they are angry about something or work for another MP.
I am since about 9 years a customer of all 4 MP’s. And I know the Papasan of Sabaii Room very well. He always gave me serious and good advices when I asked him about the girls. And of course he looks sometimes on his own business. But finally I can say: As the question, so the answer.
And by the way, I have never heart such things about Tb and HIV positive girls who are allowed to work after the infection is known. And my lady who stayed together with me since about 5 years didn’t know about such incidents. And believe me, the girls have a lot of time to chit chat while sitting in the fishbowl.
As I am just now in Pattaya, I will ask him about that things. Curious about the answer. And I will inform you in time.
Take care
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
Mr. Lemon Tree,
Thank you for agreeing with my first part. I will agree on the Diamond Massage info., but in many tries at that location...only once was I ever able to make a pick. The place has horrible looking women working there (yes, my opinion).
In the second matter, you state with great wisdom that the girls have a chit chat while sitting in the fishbowl and that your girl was not privy to this information in her chit chats. OK.....and your point is??????
You also say; "I know myself, that the girls often chatter humbug, especially when they are angry about something or work for another MP". Yes, I am aware of this.
Then you go on to say that you are going to ask a manager at the club and find out if my comments are the truth. You must be joking. I would be extremely surprised if he (or anyone there) told you the correct information....and you should be too. I am trying to be polite here and I hope you realize this. Maybe his religious beliefs will win out and you will be apologizing soon? (doubt it!)
I am not someone who just came to this forum and decided to make a "defamatory statement". I have been here a long time...probably longer than you.
I received this information from a business client who had very detailed information on all matters noted. He is not involved in the sex industry at all, other than being an Asian customer and he has lived in Thailand for over 25 years. Based on his demeanor and lack of any harsh feeling toward any soapy in particular, I chose to believe this source. It was the second time I had heard this similar story of the Hong Kong owner. My original comments stand.
(p.s.....if girls are going bareback and allowing guys to ejaculate in them, HIV is a possiblity.......you can stick your head in the ground and not believe this......but females who are in the sex industry have contracted HIV in this fashion)
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[QUOTE=Betong]Probably some of both!
Anyhow maybe the moral of the story for the OP or any other newcomer would be to take a look into all three of these places (Sabailand, Sabaidee, and Sabai Room), since they're only a few steps from each other. After a few visits you'll probably have a favorite of your own.[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree.....thanks for the good discourse!!
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Utapao to Pattaya is around the 700-800 range, when you come out of the airport you don't really have a lot of choice.
Last time I booked Pattaya limo in advance, 800 I think with good car and driver.
I forget the exact times but I can leave my hotel in Lamai Beach around 9ish and be in my room in Pattaya for 1 ish.
Utapao airport is not over burdened with Taxis so you have to bite the bullet, it is quicker than BKK for exiting the airport though.
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When you first fly into the airport at Pattaya, you immediately look at the prices and think that you're fucked. The first time I landed I went up to the counter, looked at the prices, and said straight out "No fucking way am I paying 1000 baht to go 15 minutes". The lady looked at me and told me that I could take the minibus for 180 baht. Basically you get on the minibus with a bunch of other people and they drop you off at certain locations. The dropoff points are highlighted on the map inside the bus. If I recall most of the dropoff points are on 2nd road. My advice is to take the minibus, get dropped off somewhere on second road and then take a baht bus to your hotel - shouldn't be more than 50 baht.
Of course, this was in 2005, so things might have changed, but I'm sure they still offer the minibus at the airport. I mean, even Phuket, the most expensive city in Thailand offers a minibus from their airport.
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Soi 6/1 (next to Soi 6)
Pattaya, Thailand
I posted pictures of noi in the photo gallery.
i am staying at the queen Victoria inn on soi 6. hotel is good, deluxe room, recently refurbished, 800 baht and wi - fi in the rooms.
Soi 6 is lined with short time blow job/full service bars, manned by 10 – 20 girls (schtupp on premises, $9 for the room and $15 - $20 for the load).
google “soi 6 pattaya” for an idea.
I met noi on soi 6/1 (outside the back entrance of the hotel, and a bit less frenetic street). she works at bar 6/1 on soi 6/1 pattaya thailand. bar 6/1 is a “garden bar” with a pool table and the girls are happy to sit with you and you buy them drinks (i skipped that, i had spied noi dropping off laundry earlier in the day, and i followed that ass right to the laundry spot. i walked her back to work and said i would find her after lunch, and i did). it cost 300 baht ($9) for a bar fine exit salida, and 500 – 800 for a short time visit, one load. i gave noi 800 baht, i had planned on 700, but went to 800 after the squirt. we had not discussed price in advance (not generally recommended, but more the larry style when possible, part control thing, and can lead to altercation (rare for me)).
Noi was very se asian in that many of the girls will not let me peel off their clothes and probe. no. they go to shower, and then sex. after the shower, you see what you can get, and how horny they might be. many play (or real) the shy act. then test the barriers, kissing, fingers, pussy and ass licking, blowjobs, 69 etc. it is a crapshoot. the girls generally blow bare (my friend George i met makes them put a condom on him for the bj, as some guys are very wary of transmissions). The Pattaya girls generally require a condom for intercourse. in pattaya, ass fucking is not the norm, they have good looking ladyboys here for that, but i digress (those guys, i mean girls, are extra crazy). most of the girls are grudging about photos, and do a shy battle. when i get them in front of the camera, initially usually the body language says i do not want to be photoed, and that is no good, as it will invariably lead to a poor quality photo, so i have to continue the photographer “dance” to enable them to take a decent pic (tough to do some of them justice under the conditions). noi was shy of the photos as you can see, but i coaxed a smile, while wishing she would get on all fours and spread her ass cheeks (not). generally i do not pay extra for photos, and that cuts into opportunities.
I do it for you guys, and it is my pleasure to try.
Almost all the Thai girls are a good lay, after the foreplay. they give a good ride.
Noi is 20 (still quite young in this sex trade work, and her English reflects that, about a three (although English ability is across the board) but has the 2 year old boy in the province, and 4 tattoos (yoy) and tongue pierce. these girls are pieces of damaged work. it is interesting to see the same culture infused in the good v. bad girls. to some of the Thais the sex trade girls are just performing a job (although they have stigma, and some of the girls lie to the folks (1,000’s of stories, it’s all about the money?). also, eastern peoples can be so polite, as the norm, and it reflects in the language and actions (stark contrast to the lovely Dominicans most of us know and to some degree love). i can slip into polite schpiel with ease, and i enjoy it.
Noi was a sport and let me dabble with her on her belly with good light, gave a bj and 69 her on top. tasty showered crazy 20 year old Thai babe. yum.
Noi was a tad mortified when, while she was riding on top cowgirl, she gushed a wet come stream that soaked the condom, balls and bed. (squirt referenced earlier). it was tres wet and it was fun getting my fingers in her ahole with that juice. i love a girl that juices wet like that. what is that liquid stuff anyway, other than tasty?
after a while it gets time to come for the guy. some guys have trouble with finishing (not me usually, but can happen) so it is a feel your way thing with the chica. sometimes the girls will just say “you come now?” when it is “enough”) with noi, i switched condoms (i had taken a half Viagra to make sure i had wood through the shenanigans i knew noi would entail) and put her on her side with leg up and me on knees and blamed her, and came all over her pussy and belly (not gooping the belly jewelry on purpose) and she did not quite expect it but gave an OK smile. pretty pussy.
Hallelujah right? it was fun.
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Daddy07,
Love, you're always on top of things! How did you miss the 1500 as 150?
On the bus versus the taxi, you're right but the bus has a few girls that you can look at... and maybe make a few connections just for the challenge. The Bell bus makes no stops at all going or coming from the airport but if stopping is your thing then a Taxi or limo is the way to go.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Mr. Lover Boy # 2
And by the way, I have never heart such things about Tb and HIV positive girls who are allowed to work after the infection is known. And my lady who stayed together with me since about 5 years didn’t know about such incidents. And believe me, the girls have a lot of time to chit chat while sitting in the fishbowl.
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]
Probably too much time on this, but I re-read your post a few times. I did not say that they are allowing HIV positive workers to have sex with customers. I stated that they are allowing girls to work who come in for interview immediately after they are accepted to work. I would imagine this would be at times that they needed workers. When the next HIV test cycle came for the place, the girls were then tested. If they came up positive, they were sacked. I did not say that at that point they were allowed to continue to work there. Once it was known, they did not have exposure to customers. However, you will find that other soapies have a different policy in that they test before the girl is allowed to work. That was my only comment on that subject.
I am quite curious about a statemnt you made in your argument. You say that you have been staying together with a lady who works there for approximately 5 years? (this would be a bit unusual in that you are able to be a customer and pick girls at the same place where she works).....or are you saying that you have a girlfriend for 5 years who should know of such things because she is a girl living in Pattaya?
In any case, maybe better to let this thing go...as I was only trying to alert forum members to what I know about this place. I personally would never go there based on this information that I found out....especially when there are a lot of other venues out there. I don't think this would hurt their business any (which is what you seem concerned about)...as I would venture that a very small percentage of their customers are readers here. I guess you would know this as you have seen who the customers are for the most part and have a girl who is in the know on matters of this type.
(P.S. I can see by the way you write English that we are from the same country.....I have been in this game since the first FKK club opened quite some time ago and have been aware of this same weakness in our system. It comes from greed and a total disregard for the customer....who is hoping that at least some basic safeguards are in place)
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Sabaii Room and other M.P's.
Yes, Mr. Lover Boy # 2, you are right, we should stop that discussion now.
Final statment of mine.
If you are from Geramany, then we have the same Bundeskanzler.
Yes, I am together with the same girl since about 5 years – and she still works the whole time in S.R. Except the 3 times a year when I stay in LOS for vacation.
Of course I knew that kind of answer the papasan of S.R. would give me. (But every medal has two sides and I have learnt to have a look at both sides before I write about something)
When I asked him yesterday, Pa Fun (so the girls call him) denied that any girl can start working there without being checked out before in a hospital for HIV. Especially in S.R. the doctor comes every Friday for checking all girls. Normal genital check. Every 3 month they check out the blood for HIV.
And of course the papasan told me, that they try to teach the girls to use condoms. For their own and the customers safety. But we all know that money rules the world, and if the offer is high enough, who can control whether the girld use condoms or not. But do you believe that happens only in S.R.?
All the girls in the M.P’s are looking for getting a lot of money. So your excample holds true also for all the other massage parlours. And I believe you knew that too, before you wrote about HIV and Tb in S.R.
Therefore I wondered about compromising the reputation of a single M.P.
But it’s ok, I believe, we both have the same intention.
By the way, Pa Fun told me, that or Hongkong Chinese owner is only a leaser. His contract finishs in 2 years. Now I understand, why he has no interest to renovate the parlour. Sucking the max until the contract expires. I suppose we would do the same in his position.
Enjoy your life.
We only have this one.
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Yes, Mr. Lover Boy # 2, you are right, we should stop that discussion now.
Final statment of mine.
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You have asked some questions.....but I think it best to put this to sleep. However, I will say that my intentions are only good.
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[QUOTE=Eric Burden]Does anyone know if Eastiny Plaza or Eastiny Place on Soi 7 is GF. Do they have a joiner fee? security checks IDs?
EB[/QUOTE]
To my knowledge, all hotels in the Eastiny Group charge a joiner fee for having more than one girl in your room, in otherwords they don't charge if you only have one. However, they are not girl-friendly by my definition. From what I recall they charge 400 to 500 Baht for every additional girl after the first.
J Ride
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
Bus is different than Taxi and cheaper because there are usually several more passengers and you don't control where it stops and goes.[/QUOTE]
Well fuck me, I didn't know that. I'm sure all the readers are grateful for the insight!! -)
While you are at it can you explain the difference between a car and a motorbike? :-)
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Well fuck me, I didn't know that. I'm sure all the readers are grateful for the insight!! -)
While you are at it can you explain the difference between a car and a motorbike? :-)
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Ok. The car has four wheels and the motorbike two.
Now it's your turn, Scotty. As an asshole, why don't you explain to us the difference between yourself and a regular human being. :)
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Well fuck me, I didn't know that. I'm sure all the readers are grateful for the insight!! -) ...[/QUOTE]And it is wrong. The airportbus for example is terribly overcharging. I see no reason why a bus has to cost 150 Baht for a distance where a taxi goes for little over 200. If you are 2 the taxi is already a lot cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888]And it is wrong. The airportbus for example is terribly overcharging. I see no reason why a bus has to cost 150 Baht for a distance where a taxi goes for little over 200. If you are 2 the taxi is already a lot cheaper.[/QUOTE]
My understanding is that the airport bus service to Pattaya costs about 120 baht. Taxi service for the same distance is normally 1200 baht, a difference of 10 times.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07].....Scotty. As an asshole, why don't you explain to us the difference between yourself and a regular human being. :)[/QUOTE]
I know I should just leave that one alone, but Daddy, that is so funny, I love it.
thanks for brightening up my evening.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]My understanding is that the airport bus service to Pattaya costs about 120 baht. Taxi service for the same distance is normally 1200 baht, a difference of 10 times.[/QUOTE]You are right in terms of Pattaya, but not Bangkok. (Sorry I dind't relaize it was the Pattaya thread). The airportbus to Sukhumvit is 150 baht. They can ask that because enough people are stupid enpough to pay. Inflation happens if too many people accept to high prices.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Ok. The car has four wheels and the motorbike two.
Now it's your turn, Scotty. As an asshole, why don't you explain to us the difference between yourself and a regular human being. :)[/QUOTE]
Hehe Good One!! :-)
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Beat in spades
have enjoyed the big diversity of reports from fellow mongerers and thought it was time for me to add my perceptions. i have been visiting bangkok andpattaya every february for the last five years, but have decided to by-pass bangkok completely on the visit to the los. would recommend same to all first=time adventurers. pattaya has everything bkk has and more. for me pattaya has bkk beaten in spades. i have enjoyed the adventuring in bkk-nana plaza, soi cowboy, soi 33, the beer garden, but now i ask myself why go back to the smoke and congestion and higher prices of bkk when pattaya has it all and more and at cheaper prices. there are over 100 go=go palaces with some of the sexiest asian lovelies i have ever seen. i personally have gotten a kick out of going on the hunt in the more than 1000 beer bars along beach road and second road and elsewhere. fellow adventurers and mongerers know that the thrill of the hunt is in the thrill of the chase. i have discovered some real honeys nesting in some of the beer bars who have produced wondrous delights as companions to live music venues and later in bed. soi 6 is almost unmatched in bkk as there is an ambiance of earthy, unalderated sex about it. can also remember many afternoons of good conversation with fellow mongerers in the bars of sois7 and 8. pattaya has a plethora of great restaurant s with many international cuisines represented. the great number of hotels means more competition and better prices. for me, flipper lodge on soi 8 is hard to beat. there are some tremendous live music venues rep001tered throughout the area of south pattaya and then there is the beach for a diversion when you feel partied out as i do after four days and night. time to recharge the battery with a book at the beach.
more later.
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Good points, Arky. I live in BKK and I never monger here. In fact, I rarely even go out in Bangkok. The city sucks for mongering, and you don't get the same service as you do in Pattaya. Now I just save my money and go down to Pattaya once a month for a great weekend. I really don't understand guys who stay in Bangkok to monger. They really don't know what they're missing.
For example, a few of us went down to Soi Cowboy last weekend. We hadn't been there in a few months, and just decided to check it out. We walked down the soi a few times and it was just dreadful. Desperate slags trying to get you into the club by pulling on your shirt and tugging your arm. There were 3 elephants walking down the soi, with touts in tow. I counted 5 flower sellers who couldn't have been more than 8 years old. Went into one of the clubs - all the dancers had bored faces so we immediately walked out - didn't even sit down. I turned to my friend and said "This is dreadful. I will never come here again". And I won't. My mongering days in BKK are over. The city is just horrible. In Pattaya it's not only a hell of a lot cheaper, but you get better service, the air is cleaner, and there is more choice - there's probably over 5,000 bars in Pattaya. I've never had a bad time there!
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]I rarely even go out in Bangkok. The city sucks for mongering . . . [/QUOTE]
Wow, now that's a minority point of view. Pattaya is certainly easier and more open for the tourist or new expat, but no one should ever underestimate the depth and quality of the Bangkok mongering scene. Judging it on the basis of a walk down Soi Cowboy is like going to a burger stand in Paris and saying ugh, the food in this town sucks.
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PAttaya is a zoo
american hospitalized with stab wounds after quarrel with fellow countryman
boonlua chatree
a fight between two american men in a condo room led to one of the men being stabbed and seriously injured.
police question paul joseph laurettaja.
pol col noppadol wongnom, superintendent at pattaya police station led a team of officers to a condo near the asia hotel at 12:30 a.m. on september 2, following a report by a security guard of a disturbance.
at the scene, the officers discovered robert george koenig, 57, a resident of california, usa, sitting on the floor in a pool of blood. he had sustained a stab wound under his chin, two stab wounds to his stomach, and another stab wound to his right arm. he was rushed to hospital for treatment.
the officers examined the scene. there was blood spread over the floor, up the wall, and a long trail of blood outside, leading up to the room. a bloodstained internal phone was hanging off the phone table.
the officers questioned suggi puh, a 69-year-old german citizen in a nearby room. he said he had been sitting with his wife watching television when there was a heavy knocking on the door. opening it, he found koenig bleeding heavily and asking for assistance. puh contacted the condo staff, who called the police.
the police learned that koenig’s attacker was also an american, who was staying in a room next to the injured man’s room. they knocked on the door, which was opened by paul joseph laurettaja, a 61-year-old resident of massachusetts, usa.
laurettaja said that he had quarreled with koenig, who challenged him to a fight outside the room. however, he claimed he did not stab him or use a knife. police confirep001ed laurettaja’s passport and released him. they are now awaiting the recovery of koenig before deciding on the next course of action.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Wow, now that's a minority point of view. Pattaya is certainly easier and more open for the tourist or new expat, but no one should ever underestimate the depth and quality of the Bangkok mongering scene. Judging it on the basis of a walk down Soi Cowboy is like going to a burger stand in Paris and saying ugh, the food in this town sucks.[/QUOTE]
Of course I didn't judge it based on one short walk. I've been here for a while, and during my tenure here I've visited all (or nearly all) what this city has to offer mongers. In my opinion, it sucks. It's just too expensive and the service isn't the same as elsewhere. I used to live in Pattaya as well, and know that city very well. It's miles better than Bangkok in nearly every way.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]I've visited all (or nearly all) what this city has to offer mongers.[/QUOTE]
With due respect, I doubt if you've much more than scratched the surface of what Bangkok offers. I've been doing it for 30 years, including ten years on a daily basis, and I feel like I'VE barely scratched the surface.
No argument on Pattaya -- it's great easy fun, especially for guys who don't speak much Thai or who just want everything laid out in front of them. But I think you'll find that many long-time connoisseurs gravitate to Bangkok, just as many of them prefer Manila to Angeles City or Jakarta to Bali. Me, I love Bangkok and Pattaya equally, just in different ways.
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I'll chime in - while I frequently have a bad time in either place, I do of course prefer Pattaya. The biggest reason being not the girls - though of course they are cheaper and generally offer better service and attitude - but that a week in Pattaya is quite salubrious. Anything more than 3 days in Bangkok leaves one tired and irritated. The problem is all the crowds, public transportation, traffic, taxis, and of course the heat. In Pattaya temperatures are cooler, one can get everywhere on a cheaply rented motorbike easy as pie, and the air is much better - even including sea breezes.
I do think it is true for big spenders, and those who like a more 'Thai-oriented' scene or Soapies/Fishbowls, Bangkok is better.
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[QUOTE=Betong]With due respect, I doubt if you've much more than scratched the surface of what Bangkok offers.[/QUOTE]I'm quite sure that's true, but it isn't really apparent from the forum. There is a ton of information on MPs, Sukhumvit FLs and Gogo's. In comparison the Thai scene (e. G. Up near Saphan Kwai, & the grotty neighbourhood karaoke bars, & I don't know what else), and whatever other scenes, is relatively uncharted territory. Maybe that's just the way it is.- more freeform and surprising. And vulnerable to exposure. There are clues here to pick up & follow on your own, but it's easy to lose the path and end up wasting time.
To stay on topic: had my first visit to Pattaya yesterday. Soi 6 delivered in spades. I challenge any horny individual to make it all the way down the street without cumming at least twice. Mine were with a very cute babyfat beginner in Lick Bar (700BJ, same as SOL in BKK) and a tall slim big-boobed young lady in Love Club (300room/700lady).
I have had similar relaxed cuddling in Thai lounge in BKK but even less English, but the surroundings were much worse (dingy, harsh) than Soi 6.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]American hospitalized with stab wounds after quarrel with fellow countryman...[/QUOTE]
Yes, but what does a knife fight between two stupid drunken Americans have to do with Pattaya, except of course that it happened here? How many more times does it happen in Bangkok? If Pattaya is a zoo, BKK is the Sarengetti Plains.
Go to Miami and you can see it happen daily on every street corner in some districts.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]There are clues here to pick up & follow on your own, but it's easy to lose the path and end up wasting time.[/QUOTE]
And money! Plus it takes at least a reasonable command of Thai to get into the 'real' Bangkok scene. But once you crack the code, it's endless.
Back on topic, I'm a total Soi 6 junkie, though I always warn first-timers to be prepared for a bit of a freak show. Best to go just after the sun sets -- the Soi 6 style of makeup (not to mention many of the faces it covers) is not designed for daylight! And keep the faith that you *will* find something nice eventually, as unlikely as it might seem at first.
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Tailor in Pattaya
I normally get a suit and shirts made up each year in BKK. Have used Rajawongse and Raja's and been happy with the quality.
I'm thinking about bypassing BKK as my trip is fairly short. Can anyone recommend a good tailor in Pattaya for persnal experience?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Betong]And money! Plus it takes at least a reasonable command of Thai to get into the 'real' Bangkok scene. But once you crack the code, it's endless.[/QUOTE]
Augh! I gotta get there! My 4 hours a week of lessons isn't working! I don't even know where the code is ..
[QUOTE=Betong]Back on topic, I'm a total Soi 6 junkie, though I always warn first-timers to be prepared for a bit of a freak show.[/QUOTE]As a freak show, I find Nana much worse.
[QUOTE=Betong]Best to go just after the sun sets[/QUOTE]But if you go in the daytime, the *really* pretty ones stand out.
Maybe I was lucky, but I saw a fair number of cuties.
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Twins Sisters?
Hi guys,
I'll be in Pattaya for the umm-teenth time this November. My number one mission this time around is going to be to bang twin sisters. A few years ago I had a couple of twins hit on me, but I wasn't interested and passed them along to my buddy. Apparently the two identical sisters did lesbian and the whole nine.
Can anyone on the board point me in the direction of either twin sisters or as a second runner up, full-blooded sisters that work together? The twins I met aren't around anymore to my knowledge and the other set I had heard of isn't working on walking street anymore and seems to have disappeared into the history books. Please share your suggestions.
J Ride
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Hot!
I apologize in advance as I know this is a little off topic. I have just returned from my 3rd trip to the LOS. I have enjoyed all of my trips immensely, don't get me wrong. I love the Thai culture and people and the women are awesome. In my older age though, I am finding myself becomming less able to tolerate the ungodly repressive heat that I encounter there. Each time I have visited I have found myself doing less and less. The last trip there the heat absolutely wore me down. I have gone during there "winter" before and found there to be not that much difference. I was wonder if some of our more globally seasoned campaigners could recommend a mongering location with some of the similiar good qualities of Thailand, women, cost, etc. without all of the HEAT. It would be great to have a location where I could spend more time without killing myself. Any locations you could suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I apologize in advance as I know this is a little off topic. I have just returned from my 3rd trip to the LOS. I have enjoyed all of my trips immensely, don't get me wrong. I love the Thai culture and people and the women are awesome. In my older age though, I am finding myself becomming less able to tolerate the ungodly repressive heat that I encounter there. Each time I have visited I have found myself doing less and less. The last trip there the heat absolutely wore me down. I have gone during there "winter" before and found there to be not that much difference. I was wonder if some of our more globally seasoned campaigners could recommend a mongering location with some of the similiar good qualities of Thailand, women, cost, etc. without all of the HEAT. It would be great to have a location where I could spend more time without killing myself. Any locations you could suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Winter (North American summer) in South America.
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I apologize in advance as I know this is a little off topic. I have just returned from my 3rd trip to the LOS. I have enjoyed all of my trips immensely, don't get me wrong. I love the Thai culture and people and the women are awesome. In my older age though, I am finding myself becomming less able to tolerate the ungodly repressive heat that I encounter there. Each time I have visited I have found myself doing less and less. The last trip there the heat absolutely wore me down. I have gone during there "winter" before and found there to be not that much difference. I was wonder if some of our more globally seasoned campaigners could recommend a mongering location with some of the similiar good qualities of Thailand, women, cost, etc. without all of the HEAT. It would be great to have a location where I could spend more time without killing myself. Any locations you could suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Eskimo's in Lapland are real goers once you get their seal skin knickers off and get your head around the strong fishy smell :).
Bit of a dopey post IMHO. There are few places in the world that you cannot
p4p. The reason why mongers visit LOS (and similar tropical destinations) is because they like the combination of sun, sea and reasonably priced and widely available pussy for their vacations. If you don't like the heat spend your vacation money (and saved airfare) on a few choice punts closer to home. If in Europe the choice is wide with Amsterdam and Prague springing instantly to mind. OK, no GFE but you can get the job done in whatever fashion spins your wheels. If in the States - sorry no idea but believe cost of decent p4p is prohibitively expensive so you would probably have to head down to South America during the cooler months.
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Tidbits from Pattaya
It is raining a lot lately, which does interfere a bit. Also it is interesting how many of the girls seem a bit down when it is raining, even to the extent of just staying in their rooms and doing nothing. Numbers of customers also very small at the moment.
The town was recently visited by some members of the American navy. I'm not sure if these young men are allowed to hire prostitutes, but nevertheless they were here. I think in the past the Bush religious administration imposed a strict no purchasing of sex rule on the military; perhaps it has been relaxed a bit.
Personal anecdote: visted Soi Six for the first time in a while, and enjoyed a decent service from a reasonably good looking twenty-something with breast implants. Awfully expensive however at 300 bar, 700 girl. Bareback allowed with a bit of persuasion and no extra money. Why is it that freelancers who allow bareback mostly smell ok, but the girls on Soi Six nearly all have the fishy-smelling vagina?
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Bareback allowed with a bit of persuasion and no extra money. Why is it that freelancers who allow bareback mostly smell ok, but the girls on Soi Six nearly all have the fishy-smelling vagina?[/QUOTE]
Could be from the residue sperm from another monger.
I love bareback though. Would you say it is more common for a girl to accept bareback in Pattaya than, say, Bangkok or Phuket?
In Indonesia or even the Indonesian WLs in Singapore allow bareback the most in my experience.
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Twins
Lucky guy!
I did several couples of sisters, but never managed to get identical twins, not even in Moscow (it has nothing to do with Pattaya but twins are twins everywhere!)... even if advertised.
I would fuck the brain out of them!!! If I found two!... Two with a bigger sister is close to perfection of sex...
IT
[QUOTE=J Ride]Hi guys,
I'll be in Pattaya for the umm-teenth time this November. My number one mission this time around is going to be to bang twin sisters. A few years ago I had a couple of twins hit on me, but I wasn't interested and passed them along to my buddy. Apparently the two identical sisters did lesbian and the whole nine.
Can anyone on the board point me in the direction of either twin sisters or as a second runner up, full-blooded sisters that work together? The twins I met aren't around anymore to my knowledge and the other set I had heard of isn't working on walking street anymore and seems to have disappeared into the history books. Please share your suggestions.
J Ride[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=It Travel]Lucky guy!
I did several couples of sisters, but never managed to get identical twins, not even in Moscow (it has nothing to do with Pattaya but twins are twins everywhere!)... even if advertised.
I would fuck the brain out of them!!! If I found two!... Two with a bigger sister is close to perfection of sex...
IT[/QUOTE]
My mission is to do the same. I'm going to find some identical twins somehow some way. I'll have two weeks in November to do it and to do them. Now, if you have a great pair of full-blooded non-identical sisters and would be willing to share them, I'd love to hear about them. Of course, many chicks say that their companions are their "sister", but later admit their a cousin or a just half sister.
I think I got on the twin and sister track because back here in the states, I have a P4P chick that is filipina who has a hot sister. She brought her over to my house once so I could bang her. They both have enormous racks and look hot as hell. I haven't had them at the same time yet, but maybe that should be something I do before I get to Pattaya. That way I'll be nice and motivated when I begin my twin search.
J Ride
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[QUOTE=Opebo] Why is it that freelancers who allow bareback mostly smell ok, but the girls on Soi Six nearly all have the fishy-smelling vagina?[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that any FL unwise enough to offer bareback would have enough sense to maintain high standards of personal hygiene, particularly post coital. Whether the guy would adhere to similar standards is debatable.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I would imagine that any FL [b]unwise enough[/b] to offer bareback [b]would have enough sense[/b] to maintain high standards of personal hygiene, particularly post coital. Whether the guy would adhere to similar standards is debatable.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't really follow that someone 'unwise' would 'have sense', but you are quite correct that most Asian prostitutes clean their vaginas quite well (I have often witnessed it). So why don't the Soi Six girls thus maintain? I'm guessing it may be that the frequency of insemination is higher.
In any case I hope no one interprets these comments as a criticism of our wonderful service providers - certainly nearly all prostitutes (and I believe most poors generally) back in my sad homeland have the fishy poonanny.
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[QUOTE=Rguy89]Could be from the residue sperm from another monger.
I love bareback though. Would you say it is more common for a girl to accept bareback in Pattaya than, say, Bangkok or Phuket?
In Indonesia or even the Indonesian WLs in Singapore allow bareback the most in my experience.[/QUOTE]
In Pattaya and Phuket it just depends on the girl some will no problems some will not but some may do after being lt with you.
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Opebo,
Not speaking for the military, you don't think for a minute that they are in Pattaya to see the elephants? The military is there regardless of what country for whatever period of time to f--k themselves silly. This is a real stretch but I wouldn't be surprise Colin Powell didn't get a piece of ass in Pattaya when he started his military career.
They might preach God, but when you come to Thailand it's about the pussy nothing else.
LBM
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September Road Trip, Part 13
This is one of a series of reports from the Philippines and Thailand. There's one in this section under Other Cities (from Udon Thani) and a bunch over in the Philippines under General Info, in case you're interested.
THE NIGHT I DIDN’T GET LAID IN Pattaya
My ability to strike coal in a gold mine amazes me. The night before last was one of the most exasperating of my life.
Around 8 p. M. , I met a girl at PJ’s (or PJ, s, as their sign insists), a beer bar on Second Road roughly across from the Lek Hotel. Her name was Aern, which she spelled before pronouncing. She was a little older, around 30, but quite pretty, easy to talk to, taller than average and with a trim figure and great rack. We hit it off. Since I wanted to prowl the Walking Street a-gogos before getting down to business, I paid her 300 baht barfine but said I’d come back to collect her later.
Which I did. I strolled Walking Street for the parade of eye candy and inspected the merchandise in several dens of display and desire (‘What’s Up’ being the best of my tour). Then, suitably aroused, I head back to collect Aern. We had a drink – Sprite for me and apple juice for her), chatted a bit, and I suggested going back to Walking Street. I should have just taken her back to the condo.
Aern wanted live music, so we stopped at ZAB near the head of Walking Street, where the band was not bad, and had a couple of drinks. We left when the Elvis impersonator took over. He was pretty bad – an Eastern European, I guessed – who sounded almost nothing like Elvis, especially when he talked, and who chose his songs from the worst of The King’s repertoire. We stopped in at the Beach Club, which managed to make bare breasts and bare bottoms under their skirts almost boring. Then we went to Lucifer’s disco.
We had a drink in the outer bar, then plunged into the maelstrom of the disco proper when the band took a break. We started dancing but it was, as always, very crowded, so we moved back to the outer bar. On the way, one of the customers knocked my drink out of my hand, spilling sticky Sprite all over my arms and pants. The band was back and we grabbed a table but sat for only a short time. Soon, we were up and boogie-ing. We must have danced for an hour.
We were having a good time, and I was enjoying Aern’s sexy dancing. I was ready to go when she ran into a friend and her date and asked to stay for another drink. Okay, I said, one more. Finally, the other couple left and I pried her out onto the street, ears ringing from the loud music.
We were cutting through one of the side streets toward Second Road when she got a phone call. After a moment, with an apologetic look, Aern walked off a distance to talk in private. Another guy, I assumed. Okay, I don’t own her, I’m only renting. When she came back, she asked if we could go back to her bar. A good friend had arrived, and she wanted to see her. That wasn’t what was in my mind, but I agreed, trying to be nice. It was around 12:30 by this time.
At the bar, we sat down and were joined by several of the other girls. I bought drinks. After chatting briefly – I was unclear if one of the girls was the ‘friend’ – Aern excused herself to go upstairs to see The Friend. The music was too loud to carry on much conversation, so I amused myself by watching the passing people and the girls dancing on the bar counter. Aern returned after about 15 minutes and sat with me for a while. Then another phone call and back upstairs she went. The friend was having problems, she said.
Now, I’m a reasonably sympathetic guy, but the situation was starting to bug me. I was working up a head of steam of the wrong kind. It was nearly 2 a. M. Now. I set a mental deadline of 2:10 and decided if she wasn’t back I would leave. Maybe I’d take one of the other girls, a couple of whom were looking better and better.
Aern made it back just before time ran out. "Let’s go, " I said, emphatically. I paid the tab – 630 baht! Because Second Road traffic runs the other way, and we were a long walk from South Pattaya Road, we took a taxi. After we were rolling, I noticed that despite the METER TAXI on the roof, he hadn’t turned it on. The toll would be 150 baht, I learned. Argh!
But we finally made it up the hill to the condo. As I paid the driver, Aern only got out halfway. "I’ve got to go back to the bar, " she said. "Give me your room number and I’ll be back in 30 minutes. OK? " I told her it wasn’t OK. I stalked off and, as the cab rolled away, realized I hadn’t given her my room number so she couldn’t come back even if she was actually planning to.
Riding up in the elevator, fuming, I decided to go back to the bar and reclaim the barfine. I was pissed off, you may imagine. I went back down and grabbed a baht bus. Back at the bar, I asked them to refund the barfine. "We have to talk to the girl first, " said the guy who seemed to be in charge. Or you could take another girl. Okay, I chose Nee, not as pretty but a sexy dancer. By this time, the man-in-charge had disappeared. "You have to pay another barfine, " the woman-now-in-charge said. "Come back tomorrow at 6 p. M. After we’ve had a chance to talk to Aern. " Double ARGH! But was wound up and ready for action. I agreed and paid.
Nee turned out to be a basket case. She didn’t really work at the bar or had just started – her English wasn’t very good and it wasn’t clear to me which. She had just broken up with her boyfriend the night before.
I won’t detail the next few hours, but after talk and tears and broken conversation, we finally managed some kisses, a mutual shower and some preliminary fondling that got hotter and hotter and. I woke up the next morning around 6 a. M. And realized I had fallen asleep before getting to it. I was really pissed now, although it was partly my fault. I gave Nee 500 baht and sent her packing. I caught another couple hours of sleep, got up briefly, but went back to bed, waking around noon. What a grand time!
When I awoke and had showered, I listed my options. I could head for Beach Road and look for an early honey. Or find the street with the BJ bars – can’t remember the Soi number but it’s easy to find strolling down Second Road. Or have a soapie, which I only did once on my very first visit to Pattaya. Or get a massage with a happy ending. I had a name and a location. I opted for the last, since I’d never had a real massage anyway. I headed for Jomtien, got a late breakfast, and sauntered down to the Yellow House on 6th.
Good decision. It mitigated the disaster. The girl was great, delivering a long, strong, relaxing lotion massage that ended with a great blowjob/handjob and finally, finally, finally, a wonderful release of pent-up backlog juices that she took expertly, eagerly, sensuously. Damn, it was good! I staggered out on wobbly legs and hobbled to the main road where I caught a baht bus back to the condo.
Not much to add. I’m leaving for Bangkok today at 1 p. M. I went back to PJ’s last night and, after some tactful talk, got my barfine back. Aern still hadn’t shown up. I talked to the man-in-charge from the night before. When he finally understood that I’d paid a second barfine for Nee, he refunded my 300 baht. I smiled and gave him back 100 baht, saying it was not the money I cared about but the fairness. He smiled back and pocketed the money, saying "For me? " Aern arrived just as I was leaving. I glanced at her but said nothing, just walked away. Too bad. She was cute.
I wandered around for a while, stopped in a few places, but I was more tired than horney. I had dinner and headed for Walking Street. I only went into one place. It had been sprinkling when I went in but it was raining full out when I came out. I bought an umbrella and walked up to Second Road for a baht bus up the hill. After catching up on correspondence, I went to bed. This has not been my best visit to Pattaya, I admit. I wish I had another night to help balance the bad one, but that’s the way it goes sometimes.
Before I forget, a recommendation for the Tahitian Queen on Beach Road. Nothing too bold her, but the girls were high quality. They dance on a stage down the center, and rotate off and on two at a time. The girls who come off walk around before sitting down. If you’ve been trading smiles, it’s easy to connect. It was the first bar I visited, and I wasn’t quite ready to grab one. But there was one cutie I would have taken anyway, except that she was leaving that night for a family visit. She wanted me to take her to their short-time room, but I passed. I wanted a girl to spend time with, not just a bonk. I had a second one lined up for after hours but never made it back to collect.
There’s another Tahitian Queen – TQ2 – on a side street off Walking Street. I checked it out and was disappointed. They use only a blacklight for the stage, so what you see is mostly boobs and booty in bikini. Faces are hard to discern. I told the manager they ought to alternate the black light with spots, and he acted like the idea had never occurred to him – odd, because the lighting at TQ1 is spot on, so to speak. Where the original was hopping at 6 p. M. , TQ2 doesn’t open until 8. I was the first customer, and it didn’t get much better while I was there. Maybe it takes off later. The main bar, however, is well worth an afternoon visit and probably as good or better at night.
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Sisters
I have done several couples of sisters... in my home country and in Russia (just check the passport....) ;) and still doing a couple (no lesbian but... )
Twins are my dream often on catalogue thre bit incredibly expencive... would like to get to Thailand to do some identical twin...
Will see
IT
Of course Keep us informed!!!! and make photos of the twins.... :p :p :p
[QUOTE=J Ride]My mission is to do the same. I'm going to find some identical twins somehow some way. I'll have two weeks in November to do it and to do them. Now, if you have a great pair of full-blooded non-identical sisters and would be willing to share them, I'd love to hear about them. Of course, many chicks say that their companions are their "sister", but later admit their a cousin or a just half sister.
I think I got on the twin and sister track because back here in the states, I have a P4P chick that is filipina who has a hot sister. She brought her over to my house once so I could bang her. They both have enormous racks and look hot as hell. I haven't had them at the same time yet, but maybe that should be something I do before I get to Pattaya. That way I'll be nice and motivated when I begin my twin search.
J Ride[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Opebo]It doesn't really follow that someone 'unwise' would 'have sense', but you are quite correct that most Asian prostitutes clean their vaginas quite well (I have often witnessed it). So why don't the Soi Six girls thus maintain? I'm guessing it may be that the frequency of insemination is higher.
In any case I hope no one interprets these comments as a criticism of our wonderful service providers - certainly nearly all prostitutes (and I believe most poors generally) back in my sad homeland have the fishy poonanny.[/QUOTE]
Yes, my poor choice of words - Thai BG's and FL's seldom have much sense and are almost never wise :).
You are correct - you could eat your dinner off most Thai girls private parts (I frequently have :D) so that is all the more reason to be extra cautious when they don't smell right. It could be just a yeast infection (very common) or it could just be something far nastier. GH
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Pattaya Hotel, Nirvara Place Resort
Requesting info on this hotel in Pattaya.
Has anyone recently stayed there?
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U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Opebo,
Not speaking for the military, you don't think for a minute that they are in Pattaya to see the elephants? The military is there regardless of what country for whatever period of time to f--k themselves silly. This is a real stretch but I wouldn't be surprise Colin Powell didn't get a piece of ass in Pattaya when he started his military career.
They might preach God, but when you come to Thailand it's about the pussy nothing else.
LBM[/QUOTE]
Articles 134-138 covers this:
Note: The following subsection (2) was added by President George Bush, via Executive Order # 12473, on October 14, 2005:
(2) Patronizing a Prostitute.
(a) That the accused had sexual intercourse with another person not the accused's spouse;
(b) That the accused compelled, induced, enticed, or procured such person to engage in an act of sexual intercourse in exchange for money or other compensation (Note: if the act was "compelled" on or after October 1, 2007 the offense will be charged under the new Article 120). and
(c) That this act was wrongful; and (d) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces."
Maximum punishment
(1) Prostitution and Patronizing a Prostitute. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.
I guess if don't get caught you can't be punished but its out there.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]Articles 134-138 covers this:
Note: The following subsection (2) was added by President George Bush, via Executive Order # 12473, on October 14, 2005:
(2) Patronizing a Prostitute.
(a) That the accused had sexual intercourse with another person not the accused's spouse;
(b) That the accused compelled, induced, enticed, or procured such person to engage in an act of sexual intercourse in exchange for money or other compensation (Note: if the act was "compelled" on or after October 1, 2007 the offense will be charged under the new Article 120). and
Slim[/QUOTE]
A blow job is not sexual intercourse. Is this allowable? If Billy boy can do it then why not the military?
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Regarding the unfortunates in uniform
Perhaps the more sensible military commanders (Republican though they reputedly are) are ignoring this ridiculous and offensive executive order by the ruler of my benighted homeland. Letting those about to die get some beforehand is human if not 'American'.
I was very tempted to ask the 'MPs' or 'Shore Patrol' I saw swaggering about (dressed as Mormons, tellingly) about the policy, but I was afraid to speak to them and thought in any case they were probably too low in the hierarchy to know.
Regarding other smelly things:
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]...Thai BG's and FL's seldom have much sense and are almost never wise :).
It could be just a yeast infection (very common) or it could just be something far nastier. GH[/QUOTE]
I definitely take exception to your low estimation of the local prostitute's intelligence. While it is certainly popular on this forum to denigrate same, I find them just as intelligent as anyone else - only dealing with a different set of circumstances.
As for odiferous infections, this is most commonly Trichomonas. 'Trick' is the only one that is famous for the over powering fishy odor, but if it comes and goes it could just be rotting sperm.
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amazing some of the discussion this board generates but regarding the u.s military and prostitution, the law focuses more on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] than prostitution. yes, if a u.s. service member gets caught he can be subject to prosecution under the ucmj. however, enforcement of this law is spotty at best and the punishment is at the discretion of the commanders. most commanders are reasonable and understand that soldier’s encounters with hookers while illegal under the ucmj, are good for morale, especially for men on extended duty who come ashore for some r and r. they have zero tolerance for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and rightfully so but the conceptual view is that to put a dent in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] you can't ignore wide scale prostitution. i saw some of those sailors in clubs on soi 6 having the time of their lives, as long as they stay away from **** girls and don’t create an international incident like beating a hooker and getting arrested by the local fuzz, these boys will be ok.
[url]http://www.usafe.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123017180[/url]
about hooker's hygiene, you as a customer can help by better preparing yourself for action. a stop at your local 7-11 and purchasing some trail size toiletries will go a long way. i always have these in my bathroom at home or in my hotel. most of the girls will get the hint and use them when they see them in your bathroom, if not just tell them to. lactacyd and listerine will help with aroma issues, p4p or not, don’t forget to use them on yourself too though. ;)
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Run Mann
What is Lactacyd used for?
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[QUOTE=Member #3173]What is Lactacyd used for?[/QUOTE]
Wash hoy! Look at the label on the bottle in the pic, it tells you.
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Hygeine
[QUOTE=Run Mann]
[url]http://www.usafe.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123017180[/url]
About hooker's hygiene, you as a customer can help by better preparing yourself for action. A stop at your local 7-11 and purchasing some trail size toiletries will go a long way. I always have these in my bathroom at home or in my hotel. Most of the girls will get the hint and use them when they see them in your bathroom, if not just tell them to. Lactacyd and Listerine will help with aroma issues, P4P or not, don’t forget to use them on yourself too though. ;)[/QUOTE]
I don't do P4P but I do the same thing for my freebies. I just set it out on the bath rooms counter top and they are happy to use it. Raises my comfort level a great deal.
ES
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Why is it that freelancers who allow bareback mostly smell ok, but the girls on Soi Six nearly all have the fishy-smelling vagina?[/QUOTE]
The saying goes, If it smells like fish, it's a dish! If it smells like cologne, leave it alone!.
Robb
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Best said ever
This quote below is just the basic truth about mogering and one of the best I have ever read.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Some of the replies in this thread are getting very dogmatic, as though there's one right way to monger and all the rest are inferior - if not outright wrong. Good Thai girls who fuck for free are held up as the Holy Grail of mongering, while scorn is heaped on the girls who work on a daily basis in the frontlines of P4P. A notch below the GTG gik is either the "farm fresh" 18- or 19-year-old girl who's worked for a couple of weeks, or the uni student, office clerk, shop assistant, etc. who only does P4P two nights a month when the rent is due.
In fact, these sorts of distinctions are totally subjective. As long as the girl is over 18 and it's a consensual relationship, there is no right or wrong, only what appeals to you the most. If you prefer talking girls onto their backs, whether on the Net or in person, go for it. If 18 year-olds straight from the village are your thing, I hope you find them. And if you want to buy into the myth of "occassional," or "non-professional" working girls at Spasso or the QBar, go pet the unicorn.
But you're deluding yourself if you think any one approach is an ultimate insight or universal truth about P4P in LOS. The members of ISG monger for different reasons. We have divergent goals, fantasies, budgets, time available, etc. - all of which influence the form of P4P (or non-P4P) we choose. With a very few exceptions, it's never a question of one being better than the other by any objective standard. The options are just different and what's good for one monger is bad for another. It's sort of like arguing whether spicy food is better than bland food or green is a more beautiful color than red.
It all boils down to some variation of "One man's meat is another man's poison." That's the way it was, is and always will be.[/QUOTE]
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USSR in thai
Every time I see one of them I remmember left over trash or refurbuished equipments.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Any farang who goes to the Galaxy Club is crazy. The prices are absurdly high (yes, the girls ask US $200 - $500 for S/T, depending on the nationality and level of stupidity of the client). The girls look more dead-eyed and disinterested than stoned Western street walkers.
Remember, all the former-Soviet hookers (wrong to call them Russians - few are) you see in Pattaya have been trafficked into Thailand. It's a really bad scene. With so many fun-loving girls in Thailand, why bother with the East European mobs and their ice-cold hookers?
I've attached a pic of a girl from Galaxy. She was about the best of the lot, so you can imagine how bad the others were.
Evil[/QUOTE]
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Nvslim,
Sounds like this military article is like Don't ask Don't tell!
As far as Bush is concern: I go by Article: 6.1. inch " Fuck Bush " and his old ass VP buddy Dickless.
LBM