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Service is consistently bad at CC. There are exceptions if you look hard enough and go through enough trial and error, but the culture of the place is such that the girls make little effort to earn their money in the room, and can be downright unpleasant. The indoctrination process for these girls must involve a lot of talk about how to get the man to give up money for drinks and go to the room, and none about the need to please the man with good service. In fact, it almost seems like the opposite is taught--make sure the girls rush through perfunctory service.

I used to go to CC often, but now I rarely do. AB has its own problems, but is way better than CC nowadays. Other places are also.

Irishman,

I have to disagree with you on CC, I think it has gotten much better over the last couple of months and overall is better to hang out at than AB. If you go during the week the girls are very laid back and will spend alot of time hanging out with you and not bug you about going upstairs. Plus at CC you don't get bugged like you do at AB from the ugly chicas asking you to buy them a drink. As far as the time upstairs, YMMV if you pick a girl based only on looks you'll probably have a bad experience but if you sit a watch the girls to see who goes up alot and how much time they spend you can get an idea of what is in store for you. Just sit back and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere and find a little cuttie that has been alone most of the night, then start talking to her and see how her personality is. But if you don't like the place luckily you still have AB, La Tropa, LC, Tropical, Miami, and Hong Kong just to name a few.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by outofthegame
[i]Irishman,

I have to disagree with you on CC, I think it has gotten much better over the last couple of months and overall is better to hang out at than AB. If you go during the week the girls are very laid back and will spend alot of time hanging out with you and not bug you about going upstairs. Plus at CC you don't get bugged like you do at AB from the ugly chicas asking you to buy them a drink. As far as the time upstairs, YMMV if you pick a girl based only on looks you'll probably have a bad experience but if you sit a watch the girls to see who goes up alot and how much time they spend you can get an idea of what is in store for you. Just sit back and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere and find a little cuttie that has been alone most of the night, then start talking to her and see how her personality is. But if you don't like the place luckily you still have AB, La Tropa, LC, Tropical, Miami, and Hong Kong just to name a few. [/i][/QUOTE]When do you go, though. I usually have to drive back that night, so I am there before midnight. It's been dead.

The last time I went to CC was a few months ago, but I was pretty content with the experience. First time was with Maritsa. Maybe 30 years, ok bod, but really alot of fun. She was dancing anf flirting, wearing pigtails and a schoolgirl skirt. We went up, took a shower together. Then bed and several positions. She kept saying "Aaaiieee Papi, que bueno!". It was a lot of fun! Took another shower together and left.

Nest time was with Roxanna. Very young and cute. Had a real "pouty, bad attitude" look, but when we went upstairs she was really nice. Small breast but tight boddy. Lots of laughs. Well worth it.

The last couple of times I went it was dead in there, and I didn't see anyone I recognized, so I went to Adelitas.

SoCalLans,

Sorry for the delayed response, but I would go after 10pm. Yes during the week it will seem like the place is dead but this is the best time to talk to the girls and spend time with them. The more time you spend talking to the girl or dancing the better experience you will have upstairs.

Hey Guys:

Hope CC is still the place, when I was there last year I bumped in to Danyella (sp) rated about a 5 in a previous post but gave me the ride I won't soon forget. Long straight brown hair. Next night Rubi hit on me and we went upostairs for some good action. Short petite maybe 90lbs excellent F/S. Already looking foward to next trip soon. Paid the supposed going rate of 50/10/1 since bar was crowded, but did not have to buy any drinks for either even though we talked a bit.

Had a bad experience Tuesday 11/4 with a girl from the Chicago Club. I don't remember her name, but she speaks perfect english. She said she was from Chula Vista / San Diego area. She is very agressive in trying to get you to the room right away. She promised an incredible time, and since her English was so good I thought there would be no misunderstanding in what I wanted. I explained it to her more than once.

She wanted $70 + room fee to go up. I felt ok with her so I agreed to $60. When we get to the room she ask for $20 more and promised a good time. I agreed to give her $5 more, and we proceed. After 15 seconds (literally) of CBJ she wants me to get on top. After about 20 seconds on top she is trying to rush me saying it is too big, and it hurts. I barely even had the tip in, and sometimes I was not in at all and she was waling. I left before finishing, and throw her clothes out in the hall as I left. I thought I should have complained to club management, but not sure of the protocol down there, and didn't want to bring any unwanted trouble to myself if she lied about something that happened in the room.

I have never had this issue before in my 7 trips to TJ. If you run into a Americanized latina who speaks perfect english, and is in a big rush to get you upstairs. Avoid her like the plague. Her body is not the greatest (especially nude) so it should not be that hard.

Bad,

Sorry to hear about your experience. Chicas reneging on what was discussed, doing the bare minimum (15 second cbj!), and rushing you are unfortunately all too common at Chicago and other clubs, although yours was an especially bad experience. Bad experiences happen to anyone who goes to TJ with any regularity, there is definitely hit and miss. From hard experience, I have learned to avoid any chica who is aggressive in quickly trying to get you to the room. This is a major warning sign.

I have not personally been subjected to upselling very often. But the way to avoid this is to always, always, pay after. Never pay before. If they insist upon payment up-front, walk out. Once she has the money, she has no incentive to perform well and she is also free to upsell.

While there are warning signs and being careful increases the odds of picking a good chica, there is no way to ever guarantee you are going to pick correctly. I agree with you that complaining to management is futile and getting into a dispute with a chica is not a good idea. My philosophy is to just accept the bad experiences as an inevitable part of the game, and use what you learn to refine your criteria for picking chicas. If the chica acts offensively or makes no effort, end it quickly, don't finish, save the energy and find another chica. There are always other chicas.

Hey Everyone,

Celeste is her name Bad4URHeart. She is bad news, stay away all of you. I got ripped off by her a few weeks ago on my 2nd trip to the zona. I was to embarrassed to post my mistakes in dealing with her. EVERYONE AVOID CELESTE. I first ran into here at La Tropa, I think, and then I ran into her at Las Chevales. The pickings were slim and she spoke English and the chicas weren't digging me being in a wheelchair. So even though she wasn't attractive I agreed. She was supposed to stay the night and being the idiot I am I payed in advance. She gave me a cheap CBJ and next I knew she was gone with all my money. I went back a few weeks later and when I walked in CC she came up to me right away. I just left. I have learned a valuable lesson I hope you don't repeat this.

Peace
Jefe

Wow, is there anything lower than stealing money from a guy in a wheelchair? Sounds like this con artist chick gets around, moving from one bar to another--La Tropa, Las Chavales, CC. Maybe, contrary to what I have thought, management does do something if there are enough complaints about a chica. Or, more likely, maybe she moves around to try to stay away from the angry guys she rips off at each establishment.

This chick is so brazen and the behavior so risky and short-sighted that I am guessing her behavior may be related to a recent topic on the Tijuana general thread--drugs. I'll bet a bucket of Coronas this chica is a drug user. Either she is doing this while on meth or another drug or is doing it to obtain money to feed a drug habit.

Thanks for the message Jefe. No need to be embarrassed. Live and learn.

By the way, what does Celeste look like? She isn't the English-speaking black chick who used to be at La Tropa is she?

Irishman,

Celeste is not a black chick, she is hispanic and doesn't look to bad clothed. She has smallish breasts and a little bit of a belly.

Celeste is her name. Beware. She looks like your average early 20s Mexican-American chic. Nothing particularly special about her, except for her language skills. I did however get the impression that she was on drugs shortly after I paid her in the room. It was a little late by then.

It's a shame too, as I was talking to her, I saw the best chica of the night standing not 10 feet away from me. I was tired of the walking back and forth between Chicago, Miami, the Alley, and Adelitas trying to find something I really like, so I settled for her. Next time, I'm going to be all about business, and I will skip Tuesday nights (slim pickins).

I did end the night with a nice SG, so it was not a total bust. Sin ropa, multiple positions, and some interest in our interactions (instead of that patented SG mindless stare). She was 'muy caliente' as the cab driver I rode with after called her. I wonder how he knew!!

This Celeste being on drugs may also help explain why she has moved among so many clubs in a short period of time. Although drugs are a reality in the Zona, the club owners will get rid of chicas doing drugs on their premises. The club owners have a good thing going, have nothing to gain from tolerating drug use, and they know the police will come down hard on them eventually if they do tolerate it.

Just a note for anyone curious.

Chicago Clubs seems to come alive on weekends (Fri, Sat) about 9pm. Before that it is pretty dead. But after 9pm it gets packed pretty quick.

I think the average quality is better than AB after 9pm. However, AB has more stunner than Chicago. The reason CC has a better average is because AB has a large number of "3s and 4s".

It's been a while but I would like to recommend a couple girls from CC. The first is Maritsa. Kind of a soft shape but really fun. Late 20's pointy tits. Really into her job. The other is Roxanna. She seemed like she was going to be kind of a dud. But she was so young and pretty I couldn't help myself. Medium, dark hair, thin. Once in the room, she was very fun. Liked doggy style.

Hello All,

I guess we're talking about jealous hookers. These girls are supposed to be professional but let me tell you, it has been my experience that they are mostly jealous petty women who act anything but professional. I understand that their clientelle is important to them because that is how they feed their kids and send money home to mom. But under all the makup and professional bravado are frightened, jealous, possessive women.

When I find a chica I enjoy and trust (a relative term given the context) I will stay with her while keeping my options open for someone else who pricks up my ears. At first, the chicas always tell you that they don't care if you see other chicas. They seem quite adament about it so I always keep that in the back of my mind. However, try taking them up on it and you will get quite another reaction.

I remember taking one of my regulars to the room and asking her this question directly and she said she had no problem with it. Fast forward about 4 months and I run into my regular coming downstairs as I was headed up and I can't explain in words the look on her face. Shock, like I was cheating on my wife...and surprise when she blurted out my name as if to say "what are you doing here". Then when I got downstairs after the session the regular made her way over to me and told me flat out, "No mas putas" I knew what that meant.

Another time I had a regular who knew I had another regular that I enjoyed from time to time. This one at least was honest up front. She didn't like it and would always try to ask me questions to see if I had spent time with the other chica before her. Frankly, I didn't think it was her business. So I tried to avoid the topic but alas, it is unavoidable. Girls talk, and they find out anyway so you might as well give up the ghost.

Just recently I have been seeing another one of the chicas on a regular basis and she knows that one of the girls is a friend of mine. Everytime she sees me with my friend (who is the girl from the previous paragraph) she always has some very snide comment to offer up about the girl. The last time it was so rude that I finally had had enough and told her to stop it and be nice. This sent her into a mini tirade as if to say "I knew you liked her better than me". And she stormed off.

Am I the only one to have such experiences or is this commonplace and unavoidable in an industry where matters of sex and the heart become blurred and in the end, for all the posturing that goes on, they are all just women afterall with everything that that entails.

Wilbur

Excellent post. You know, I wrestle with this issue all the time and what works for me is that when I have one of these moments I do my level best to straighten it out with the girl and the beauty is that it is a "pass/fail" situation. She may or may not be ok afterward and if she can't get back into her skirt then "there it is ."

I think we are seeing a new mentality in the younger girls who might be more passionate about the exclusivity of the clientele and who might be taking this whole thing a bit too personally. Years ago the term "hard as a *****s heart" was used to describe the coldness with which the women handled their clients (for the most part) and even though this might be true to a greater or lesser degree today, I see a change in the mentality of the girls who might not have as easy a time disconnecting from the possessiveness (check spell) as their counterparts in years past. Am I making sense?

My view is that these lovely women do a tough job that involves us mongerers. Being 50% of the equation make me at least 50% responsible for being there so I believe that as we look to them for what we seek, they should get from us a bit of what they need, some compassion and understanding.

For me, these women are a dream come true (especially the Venezuelan in Mexicali). They are beautiful to look at and fabulous to encounter as mattress monsters. I just have a feeling of responsibility for my part in it and I don't mind showing it to them.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Has anyone seen a girl named Veronica? She is about 5'10" thin, average breast with braces, I think she is from Guadalare, probably about a 6.5 in looks but an absolute 10 in the sack. Not to mention she spent the rest of the evening with me afterwards, I first met her at CC in July but have only seen her once more there since. If anyone knows who I am talking about please post where she is now working I would like to have another go around with this little sweetheart, what a great attitiude. On another not I hooked up with an American the other night in the alley, she was about a 6 in looks, she charged me $20 I told her I would not pay her until afterwards and I would pay her half if she rushed me. Holy cow did I get my monies worth, she is a piece of ass, a little chunky but makes up for it in other ways. I ended up giving her $30,but not until I pounded my drunk ass on her for over an hour and then blew my load on her chin. Come to think of it I should have given her another 10 bucks.

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CC has a new policy regarding leaving with a chica and taking her to a hotel not attached to the club. As you all may know the old policy was if you left the club with a chica and wanted to take her to another hotel for the night (or even a few hours for that matter) the monger paid the bar $20 and the girl was his. Well now CC has a new manager and he has decided to change the policy. It now will cost a monger $100 to leave with one of the girls. I ask this question. How is this good for the club and how will it make CC more money?

This is a losing proposition for the club any way you slice it. The girls know how to get around it; they meet the monger at a prearranged spot and the monger will invariably spend all the money on the girl away from the club. I know one girl who has a regular who would come to CC, spend about $100-150 on drinks and then take the girl either upstairs or to a hotel nearby. That's one girl. Multiply that by how many girls have the same experience and you can see business drop off dramatically at CC. Plus, there are times when the casual monger may go to CC and find a chica he may want to shack up with for the evening. Then the chica lays on the new policy and this drives a potential customer into the waiting arms of an AB chica who still maintains a $20 charge for leaving the club with a girl.

I don't know the new managers name but I know who he is. He used to be just one of the grunts running around asking for drink orders. He was a hard nosed prick before and this doesn't exactly elevate his status in my book.

Those of you who know this meathead and maybe have a rudimentary spanish skill may want to breach this subject with him. Hopefully he can do the math and come to the same conclusion. We need mongers with some fluency in spanish to start talking to this guy and letting him know what a tremendous miscalculation this is.

Wilber:

Thanks for the "heads-up."

If CC is doing this shit then they will not see my "hard" earned dollars.

Is this guy aware of the WSG forum?

Mongerers unite! Look, there might be an endless supply of mongerers not connected to this site etc who could fill the void but if we mention it to the clubs that we will NOT patronize them because this sort of treatment they might (and I say MIGHT) change their ways.

Makes sense that the girls would arrange side deals in light of this foolishness.

Thanks again.

Be Safe and BE NICE.

Country John

Another trip to TJ this weekend, and I am focusing on CC since that is the only place I hooked up this time. This is like my 9th or 10th trip (starting to lose count).

Anyways, brought a friend with me this time (TJ virgin). The time seemed to pass so quickly as I schooled him on the fine art of TJ mongering. We did the 2 block tour, then finally settled down at CC (AB was insanely crowed, even for AB).

As we were drink a few beers, a chica I had done a few times before (Rosanna from Vera Cruz, best CGJTC I have ever had) came over to sit down. I bought her a drink, as she rubbed my member under the table. I had no plans to go up with her that night, so I told her no mas. She understood, and excused herself shortly thereafter.

I finally honed in on a girl I had seen on my last trip to TJ, but could not find when I was ready. She had just finished a solo dance routine on the dance floor. Her name is Cindy. She has a darker completion, devious eyes, and her hair is half braided with red streaks in it. She has a nice body, and has this really intriguing coy look about her. She speaking decent english. I caught her eye, and after a little small talk started negotiations. I asked her how much, so said you know good and well how much, and with that she grabbed my hand and we headed upstairs.

Room was $12 (when did they go up). Walked in, dimmed the lights. We started some all over body kissing as we got undressed (like a couple of high school kids). She started in with a little shaft and ball licking with awesome eye. We then sat 'indian' style facing each other caressing. She put the condom on, and climbed aboard. She worked her money maker for about 5 minutes in this position, before we switched to doggie. Did that for about 10 minutes, then finished up missionary.

$60 is what she expected, which I gave her, plus a little tip. We got dressed and she held my hand all the way back into the club where we said goodbye. I have to experience her again.

Looks: 9
Attitude: 10
Sex: 9
Cost: $72 + tip

..> BadOne

Why the drought on posts here?

the drought is because Ab has better chic there and better crowd
and ppl like the big post better

mr. speed,

re-read your post and see if it makes sense? because it didn't make sense to me.

tjs

Took my first trip to TJ on Friday and started off in Chicago, what a place to go! There were about 40 women, most 6 to 8s, but a few really hot babes. After giving myself a 1/2 hour to settle in, I spotted a girl with just the right look and body. A few seconds of talk (I speak zip Spanish, but it was not an issue as she knew enough English for us to get by) and off we went for the usual $60 her/$12 room/$1 tip to the clean up boy.

The room was remarkable clean (well, at the time I thought is was merely OK, but after visiting some other places, like bar San Diego in Mexicali on Saturday, I could see that the rooms above Chicago are really clean in comparison!)

The girl was great, everything was covered and I did not feel rushed, although since she was the first for the night, it did not really take a long time either :)

I hung around the bar for a while, but decided to check out a couple of other places. Not much else to report, I stayed away from the alleys and stuck to the one block strip for my first visit (went over to Adelitas - report in that area) and cabbed it back and forth (asking the price before getting in the cab, but $5 seems to be universal).

Having been to FKK clubs in Germany (some of the finest places on the face of the earth to visit!), I would rank the layout here a close second. I can't wait to go back!

First time poster here.

After reading all the great reports the last few months, felt the need to contribute now that I've been approved. Been to CC about 8 times in the last 3 months and can tell you its better to sit at the bar along the left side where the chicas hang out so you can talk easily with them, even though my espanol is so-so at best.

After 9 or 10 pm on weekends is when the talent arrives. Been lucky with AnnaMae, tight little blonde about 25, b cups, and almost GFE. Looks 8+ Attittude 9 Service 8. Julia is older, busty 36DD brunette who has her own room right upstairs, no rush, mutliple positions and can be had all night for around $200. Looks 7, Attiude 8+, Service 8. Both girls went for $60 for the 30 min plus room. This place can be worth fighting the crowds on weekend when Adelitas is too crowded for many.

I can post more when I remember the girls names.

Happy Humping,

KM

Sunday afternoon, around 5:30 PM. AB was doing decent business, considering the day and hour, but no one really grabbed my attention there, so I went to check out CC. That place was DEAD. There were maybe three guys, including me, and about 8 girls in the bar. I found a pair of cuties sitting by the bar, Jimena and Laura. Jimena spoke enough English, but her friend Laura didn't. In my conversation with her, I told her that I wanted to make sure they'd treat me well, and hinted that there might be a tip in it for them if they did. I just wanted to impress upon them the importance of me having a good time. After all, two girls ain't cheap and I didn't want to go home feeling cheated. I said something along the lines of "puede usted fingir amarme," which means something like "can you pretend you love me." Now, bear in mind that I don't sprechen the Espanol, so it's probably all wrong, but she seemed to get the idea. I actually wanted to have a bit of dancing before business, but neither girl was into that, even though I offered them a couple of dollars. They were embarrassed to dance publicly, even though the place was almost empty. But they promised me a little dance in the room.

The girls were giggly and a little awkward, as I don't think they were used to working tandem. But Jimena was very affectionate, though Laura was a bit stand-offish. It may have been the awkwardness of the situation. Anyway, they took good care of me, and washed up before and after. I might have considered hopping into the shower with them, but I've always been inclined to wear shower sandals or something in a public shower, to avoid any kind of foot fungus, and I had none with me of course. But with two girls, there was one to take care of me while the other was washing up, so I didn't get bored. Jimena seemed to take the lead, giving me a bit of a dance first (a request of mine). They were both efficient and professional with the condoms and the switching between girls and all that.

Jimena got me dressed and started me off with a bit of CBJ before we did a couple of positions. I then switched to Laura for a few positions before finishing up. I'm not into BBBJ or DATY or DFK, so that wasn't an issue for me. Back in the bar, it was still pretty empty. Despite the lack of customers, I didn't find the girls particularly aggressive, and I didn't buy anyone a drink. But then, we didn't converse THAT long. Anyway, I'm sure the selection would have been better if I had gone a few hours later, but as it was, I was quite satisfied. And I'm not one for crowds, so I was glad not to have to deal with all that. Since TJ is at least a 3 hour drive for me (and we all know that traffic ends up making that longer), weekends are pretty much my only option. Next time maybe I'll try a Saturday afternoon.

In the end, I paid $60 for each of the girls, plus a $5 tip for each, since I felt like they took good care of me. Plus $22 for the room, which let me get through things without feeling rushed. Maybe next time I'll take the advice someone posted here and tip the cleanup guy $5 so he won't come knocking.

Messy,

Sorry man, not trying to be mean but your throwing me softballs, your quote"

"I might have considered hopping into the shower with them, but I've always been inclined to wear shower sandals or something in a public shower, to avoid any kind of foot fungus, and I had none with me of course. "

Yeah I would never consider jumping in a shower with two hot chicas and risk getting athletes foot, heaven forbid.

Had a very nice time with Carla from Monterrey tonight at CC. I spent most of the evening at AB, as I typically do, but since I had never gone up at the CC, I decided that tonight would be the night. CC was very dead all evening, but then again, AB was not nearly as crowded as a weekend evening either.

Carla is 25, has two little girls (4 and 5) and said she has been in TJ for about 3 years. She is about 5'7", thin, and sports a lovely 34 B (or so) set of breasts. Stretch marks and evidence of the ninas is hardly evident. Her breasts are incredible for having two children.

She was very accomodating, nice covered bj after some uncovered teasing. Started in cowgirl, and she had a lovely technique. Switched to doggie and I finished pretty quickly while grabbing her fantastic hips and pulling her toward me.

Rooms in the CC hotel are a bit nicer, in my opinion, than at the AB hotel. Price was 50 + 11, and no tip was requested by cleaning staff.

I would definitely repeat with Carla, and may do an hour (with multiple pops) tomorrow night.

Krypto,

You wrote:

"Yeah I would never consider jumping in a shower with two hot chicas and risk getting athletes foot"

Uhh, maybe next time you should read the entire post before you reply. As I said in my original post, "with two girls, there was one to take care of me while the other was washing up."

See, most English-speaking people can correctly interpret this to mean that each girl was showering separately, and I was being entertained by the girl who was NOT in the shower. So "jumping in a shower with two hot chicas" was not part of the game plan. I suppose I could have jumped into the shower with ONE hot chica while the other one was keeping the bed warm, but I preferred to stay on the bed where the other chica could bounce up and down on my lap.

I'm sure you would prefer getting a foot fungus over getting a lap dance, but I guess I just don't have as good a health plan as you do. Or maybe enjoy visiting the TJ pharmacies as much as the bars. I find that if I'm paying for service, I'd rather lie back and be serviced. But if you think you need a shower, go with your instinct: you're probably right.

And next time, remember to finish reading before you reply. Seriously, reading IS fundamental.

Has anyone gone upstairs with Itzel (from Sinaloa)? She gives outstanding service, and is into the sex. I've gone upstairs with her on 2 different occasions, and both times were memorable. She has long black hair with dark eyes, she's not skinny but she's definitely not fat. Even when in the bar she was very affectionate, and when she was with another customer she kept making eye contact with me (must have remembered our first experience). Though I'd never get attached to a bar girl, it's interesting how some of the girls can become attached and some are pure business.

Had a very bad experience with a girl from CC. My friend took her to our hotel and negotiated for 2 hours. She didn't want to finish up once she got her 'paycheck', a shouting match ensued, and she ended up calling hotel security (motel alaska, wonder if anyone heard us?). To make a long story short, we almost got thrown in jail. Bad service...stay away! She's very small (5'3" or so), older, maybe 38-40, has short black hair and dark brown eyes, she looks like a little mouse. No tits or ass. We took her up on a Friday night, don't know what other nights she's there. I don't know what the fuck my friend saw in her. My criteria is number one, attractive with full lips and a sexy body, and number two, a mutual attraction to each other. If they don't satisfy those two conditions, fuck it, it's MY MONEY!. Had weak experiences where the girl was EXTREMELY HOT, but it was all business.

And now I'll get off of my soapbox!

Has anybody been with Norma from Guadalajara at Chicago? How is she?

Coroner,

What the hell did your friend see in her? Agree with you 100% on the criterias. I've been offered for half the rate. Took one look and moved on. Rather give the full rate for something that I would enjoy. Attraction is a big factor too. Mutual attraction=animal ritual. It's all good!

Marvin,

What does Norma look like? I think there may be more than one Norma there and not sure where they are from. I may be able to help out if you give a physical description.

By the way, why do you ask? It is unusual that your very first post is to request information about a specific chica at a specific club. This betrays a familiarity with the scene, but yet you have never posted any information or reports of your own, and never before have you been moved to request any information. Out of curiousity, what moves you to request information about this Norma as your first post?

I was in TJ a few years ago and stayed at a hotel directly next door to Chicago Club, it was about $25 for the night. I plan to stay there again when I go back in a couple weeks. Would a CC girl to a room there instead of the short-time rooms, and if so would she or the club charge me extra?

The Hotel Leyva is next to CC. Rooms now are 275 pesos/night plus 20 peso key deposit. I find it best to buy pesos at the money exchange across the street from the Jack in the Box next to the border on the US side. Latest exchange rate was 11.45 pesos/dollar.

If they don't know you, CC girls are reluctant to go to a hotel other than the CC sponsored Hotel Jalos, because bar girls have been beaten up and killed. If they are willing to go, I think that CC is charging $20 for short time and $100 for over night bar fine. You can arrange meeting them after their shift to avoid the bar fine.

Swung by CC on a Tuesday night around midnight. About 10 chicas there, nothing special. What happened to this place? up until, ayear ago it was wild! Returned to Adelita's, which had 100-plus chicas, some of which were hot.

Chuponalgas,

I don't know what has happened to CC. I used to fuck some really hot girls there. In fact, I usually didnt bother with AC because of the amount of guys in the club. I can't even remeber the last time I visited CC and I went up with a chica. Too bad!

There must have been a management change or something. CC doesn't even have decent girls anymore. All the hot girls are now working at AC.

Gentlemen --

I've never enjoyed CC. Been there three times, walked out twice, wish I had walked out the other time. YMMV.

Bend It

Only good news is 3 or 4 former SG's work there now and some part timers. Maybe you have to be from Chicago to really enjoy it.

I love Chicago Club, granted it isn't too crowded but they play english music and it is a decent place. Once I gave the waiter a $20 to pay for a drink for me and a chica, instead of going and returning with my change, he counted my change in front of me, I liked that. Chicago Club is run very professionally

I think there are alot of cutties in there, there could be more but i'll still go there again, 3 weeks to be exact.

Cheers,

KJ

Man, what has happened to CC. Place is dead and the reports here show it has been like this for awhile. Heading back down to TJ in two weeks, guess it'll be cottage cheese at Adelitas.

To be clear:

Adelitas is clearly more busy than Chicago; in fact, don't even bother with Chicago during the day--EVER. However, if you're in TJ around, say, 10:00 or so on a Friday or Saturday night, it's worth checking both clubs out. I was there this past weekend and while Adelitas was almost uncomfortably packed and stuffy, Chicago was quite busy too, yet you could still move around a little more comfortably. Though the 'talent' was comparable, I'd still have to say the beauty scale tilts in Adelitas favor. Don't quite know why it is, but the girls in Chicago seem somewhat stuck-up too--maybe it's the lighting or something in the water?

King of Wings and I are headed down to TJ next week. First time for me, going to head down on Tuesday night for a short trip. As we are in San Diego for a convention. Hopefully we will have a nice trip report.

I went to the Asian American Social Club this Saturday (a.k.a. Chicago Club). There were some nice looking girls there and a few really nice looking ones.

I got excited because I picked up on this 18 year old. She said it was her first day at the CC. I believe it was true, but she must have worked in the alley for years. She wouldn't take off her clothes unless I gave her another $10. We negotiated $50 to go to the room. She didn't want to do doggie either. She was a totally bad lay, just like the alley girls. She was also quite chubby when she took off half her clothes. I shouldn't have paid her upfront. I wasn't expecting this kind of bad service.

I won't make the mistake of doing an 18 yo again unless I hammer out the details upfront.

Same thing happened to me this past weekend. She had the nerve to ask for "propina". I looked at her and asked "do I look like a gringo?". She smiled and said for service. I told her she had been compensated. Esta semana!

Tuesday, 1:00 A.M. About 20 girls, most of them have been there for years. Poor selection, dead while Adelita's was booming.

Chicago's quality has been on the decline for a while now. Back in the days, I would not even bother with Adelita because I didnt like all the guys in the club. Now, I dont even bother with Chicago anymore cause their inventory is just horrible!

What happened to the good old Chicago?:(

What happened to CC is strange and makes me wonder. Have you ever notice the LE presents around AB, but not CC. Maybe $$$ are tossed around to them, trying to drive CC out of business so they can have a monopoly over the industry.

Kinda like what the yellow cabs are trying to do with Taxi Libre.

Maybe we should open a new place like that in TJ to keep up good old competition?

From what I have heard, both Adelitas and Chicago are owned by the same guy. So it doesn't really matter which one you end up in he still wins.

Went to CC on Monday August 30 at about 2 in the afternoon. I hadn't been there in 2 years and had read the posts about poor selection but it was a routine I was comfortable with so I went for it anyway. Ended up with Roxanna, cute short girl with nice C cups and nips. Pretty smile and speaks decent English. Had a good time when she started with the balls for a looong time. Put the hat on and went to town and kept going back to the balls. Unfortunately that did it for me and the end came way too soon. She asked then if I still wanted to dance but I had to get back to SD quickly so I passed. If this is the poor quality at CC, then give me more!

I've been to both CC and AB in the last year enough times to discover a decent pattern to work from. While AB has more hot chicks at almost all hours and remains my favorite, you can score at CC if you sit in the right place at the right time.

Yeah, Chicago Club sucks most of the time. But if you go fairly late at night after 11 pm, and sit along the long bar on the left, not only will all the girls wander by going to and from the ladies room, many sit at the bar, hanging out and are very easy to talk with and not too pushy with the drinks. So I can check out all the girls, knowing each one will walk with 2 ft of me, and if I wish to talk, all I have to do is make eye contact. Since business is slower there, they will sit an talk for awhile and gotten much better service than I do at AB girls who are in a hurry. The price is pretty much the same, but you also can negotiate a allniter easily(TLN).

The also have more girls stipping in the bar at night, if thats your thing, you can really see the goodies at that point. Some of the finest latinas that I've seen were at CC.

Good luck,

King

There was time way back when the hottest chicas in TJ were at Chicago. Those days seem long gone!

Chicago Club R.I.P.:(

I was at CC on a sat night in july and it was packed with customers and hot b*tches. The strips shows were really good too.

I am a newbie to TJ, but went with a friend (old pro) to CC and to Adelitas last Wed and Thur. The first night, CC was pretty dead...got there around 9ish....hooked up with an older (30's) gal that promised to suck me 6 ways to sunday, and give me a massage. She was ok looking (sorry but I always forget those fake names)...she lived up to her word upstairs, let me play with her butthole with my finger, and then pounded away....she was pretty aggressive...even the massage was rough. She was ok....but not great. I noted that kissing was not a norm, nor apparently were bbbj.....my friend was still with his main squeeze, so I headed out to Adelitas. It was jammed, and noted a lot of good looking chicas there, probably more hot looking gals that night than at Chicago Club.

We returned next night, hit a few lap dance bars just so I could see what they were like. As it was day after independence day, most were weak on girls and crowd. Madonnas did have a couple of gals, one that really tripped my trigger. But, at $5 for a table dance, $20 for clothed private dance and $40 for anything goes (2 songs worth) was kinda pricey, although the blonde chick was pretty nice (28 yo).
We headed back to Chicago, and it was hopping. A lot of good looking gals, and some really abusive ones as well....but, one does have ones choice. I finally settled on a gal named Michelle (yea, right)...she was extremely hot, and stated that she was 21, probably younger. No V needed here, she really tripped my trigger for 30 minutes, but at the end of a nice encounter (though still no kissing and no bbbj) she wanted a tip. I told her I would give her a tip for a dfk, but she walked out. I had to use the restroom, and when I got out I expected her to be outside the door. But she had returned all the way to the club.

At that point, I saw the gal I really liked (huge tits, little older but petite, real personality as she had literally beaten me about the face with her tits during one of the dance segments). She was wild, normally mouthing "what the fuck" at various times. Think her name started with F, but she told me her real name was Maria (no duh there, most all hispanic women have maria somewhere in their names). Well, she was really hot, sitting right on top of me, but I just didn't have another effort in me that night, so had to say good bye. Am heading down there tonight, see what is up. I leave to go back home tomorrow (east coast) so want to have one last fling down there. Will write more tomorrow.

Was in CC Sunday night about 10PM. The place was sparse, no strip show.

There were about 20 girls, only 3 that were worth banging in my taste. 2 of them were sitting with the guys in the booths. Sonya was hanging out by herself forever in the little alcove on the left side of the entrance. She is the small dark girl with nice legs but no tits to speak of. She loooked new to the trade and did not have any friends there.

I approached her. She wanted $70! WTF! I offered her 40. She declined, insisting on 70. BS! She's not worth that much. The TJ bar girls have been spoiled by the gringos and are starting to act jaded like the bitches in the US!

With that price and attitude, I want her to hang out all night at the CC and go home hungry. Her pimp would probably beat the shit out of her!

Went down to the alley, found Brenda, a nice slim, light-skinned, pretty girl who just got back from Mexico City, hanging out near Hotel Cascadas. She was very nice, very sweet, very sexy. I fucked the shit out of her for 1/2 hour straight for $25. She speaks decent English, telling me she did not have sex for 4 weeks, so it was very good! I had a very good session!

May be she should have paid me instead?

Peter pan,

Sonia at CC has been working there for years and is one of the most popular girls(maybe that's why she has no friends). She speaks almost no english and sits by herself so she may seem unfriendly at least to me. She always ask for and gets $70 even when it's slow. When she's busy, she goes for $80. If you see her on a friday or saturday night, she'll be going up and down the rooms non-stop all night. But like you, I also turned her down for the $70 last month. However, she's one of the hottest spinners if you are into that kinda girl-5'1", 95 lbs, 32A, 20yo, gorgeous face. I have no idea if she's any good in bed, but I'm willing to give her a shot one of these days, maybe.

OK TJ Bob,

Sounds like you've been around the block a few years and know all the old players?

There used to be a few very pretty girls in CC (and AB as well) and they were nice as hell. I remember the 2 cousins from Sonora, forgot their names, who were very pretty, nice and sweet. You can't ask for nicer sex, slow nice and enjoyable.

Lately I found the bar girls ugly, very rude, very mechanical, not worth the time and money. I became very leery of them, unless I found those I had good experience with in the past!

Perhaps you should recommend a few names. I will look them up.

PP,

I have yet to find GFE from a AB/CC puta. Then again, I just go for the trophy fvck. I try not to repeat so that I have no emotional attachments to any puta for personal reasons. Sorry I can't give you any recs as I only specialize in hot spinners who give you a mechanical 30min F/S. You may want to read other people's reviews here who have received alot of TLC in their sessions. The general rule is that the 9's and 10's will be more likely to just give you a mechanical session as opposed to someone with a lowering rating in looks. So, it just depends on what you're looking for and a little bit of luck.

Tron "God",
You should try and live up to your name and not be so insecure.

Things to keep in mind:

1) Of course they are going to give you a fake name. They do this to everyone, not just you. Do you honestly think that you would have remembered her name had she given you her real name? So what dif does it make?

2) Tron God states: "I had to use the restroom, and when I got out I expected her to be outside the door. But she had returned all the way to the club."

WHY? Why would you expect her to be waiting for you. Remember, they are there to make money. Don't take it personally, of course she won't wait to escort you back. This isn't the movie Pretty Woman.

3) Tron God states: "(huge tits, little older but petite, real personality as she had literally beaten me about the face with her tits during one of the dance segments)"

Do you think that being beaten about the face with her tits means she likes you more that anyone else? Let me let you in on a little secret. They beat everyone about the face with their titties. I still have bruises!

4) For the record not all "hispanic" women have Maria "somewhere in their names". Some of them have Rosa or Guadalupe.

I hope I do not come across to harsh. I'm just trying to help.

Sincerely,

Donkey Punch

Went to CC last weekend. Not too bad with seating room. Adelita was pack with no seats. Finally hooked up with chica name Elaine(?). Sits in the corner right when you get in. Does anyone have any info on her?

Thanks,

M2779

Guys,

I really enjoy CC it is more relaxed than Adelitas. I have a chica there that we have become buds and do stuff during the day together. Full gfe. There are about 5 other chicas there at night I would most definitely like to nail but my friend would get very pissed and probably cut my prick off while I sleep so you dudes better come nail them and tell me how good it is. I have a buddy coming down Tuesday for his first TJ trip. It will blow his mind.

Last Friday there were plenty of girls there, at chicago you usually have to start the conversation first and generally the attitudes of the chicas there are very good. There aren't the Paris Hilton, Christina silicone look-alikes but there are several very good looking ones there. Especially if you like the Sinaloa girl type looks. Went with a svelt bleach blond with big natural boobs named Fernanda who was very nice and gentle compared to the knockout Adelitas girl that I saw earlier. The Adelitas girl wouldnt let me touch anything and was faking after 20 seconds and rushing me after 5 minutes into it! CC's Fernanda smiles alot (big killer smile) and likes being touched, even rubbed her boobs on mr happy. She does have a scar on the side of her belly from a tummy tuck she said (and boy is her stomach flat).

I don't remember her name, but you know how it works these chiks are a dime a dozen for the right $ .

Seen this one girl the past few trips but after she dances she get quickly snapped up so I havent had a chance to spend time with her. Tall maybe 5'9" (higher with tall heels) shapely though not too big hips and thighs, big boobs, wavy black hair thats slightly above her shoulders. The hair is often sticks out to the sides not just laying flat against her head. 25-30 kinda pale skin with dark eyes, big wide smiles kinda Sineloa looking.. Often wears a slinky long black dress when she dances late at night though last time wearing a tight white pants and she often gets down to g string pretty quick to get the most tips... Forgot the name though stupid me was wondering if she if a good time or full of attitude before I risk the cash and spend it on her instead of Fernanda or Leti.

Norma de puerto vallarta

Note: My ratings is based upon a spinner lover.

Cute brunette spinner with hair pulled back always, ~95 pounds, 5'0", A-cups, skinny, no curves, no fat, 24yo(looks 18-19yo), 2 kids.

Looks 7.0; I luv spinners and there's something sexy about her skinny body and cute face that turns me on. I've seen her at CC before, but never fvcked her due to heavy competition from other CC/AB BG's. On the same level of looks as spinner Alexia de Mexico City(AB). Body looks similar to spinner Sonia(CC).

Attitude 6; average downstairs and pleasant upstairs.

Techniques 5; CBJ, no besos, all positions. She's very tight. Going too deep on her during doggy caused her some pain so i had to back off on any hard sex. Same with mish going too hard on her caused pain. She would not allow both feet by her head. she was a trooper though by not complaining. She finally threw in some lube after 15 min. After about ~20min she told me to cum, but i reminded her that we agreed to 30min. I finished in about 25min for her sake. She has the same body style and same dimensions as alexia, but could not take the heavy pounding like alexia.

Hygiene 2; No sure what she did as i was taking a shower. The sink was in the bathroom and she never used it. She did pump the soap pump into her hands though.

English D; very limited.

Price; $50 plus hotel.

Overall 6; Fun one time only for me.

I should be there tonight. PM me if anyone is around.
Probably be staying there too.
Will be wearing a green Fender Polo and jeans with a black leather jacket.

Looks like rain, but oh well.

Will check messages this evening.

I had scoured this forum and some othre sources for info for my fist TJ trip. Thanks to all posters.

Grabbed a trolly and walked across at about 7 at night. Big wait for Taxi Libre, but worth it for the no-rip atmosphere. Dropped off at Adelitas, and once inside I realized that I couldn't cope! Loud, smoky, young, etc. Didn't even stop for a beer, just walked the long way(around and down the alley) to get to CC. The alley was interesting - a mix of cuties and ones that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. Being a newbie, I wasn't ready for bottom fishing, and made for CC.

This was a bit more my style. Bear in mind it was a Wednesday. There were about 20 ladies in evidence in the hour that I was there, and about 30 men. Some were clearly just in for the atmo, while others were on the hunt. Some of the ladies in here appeared to have some mileage, so I decided to just stick around and scope out the action for a while before making my selection.

I decided to chat to a young-ish bottle blond sitting on the far side from the bar in a booth. She said that her name was Nancy and that she was from TJ. Another beer for both us (Jeez, booze is not cheap in this joint) and we adjourned next door. The first thing that you need to know about Nancy is that once the kit comes off, she reveals some scar tissue on her left shoulder and boob. Not sure what happened, but it did not put me off, I was just surprised.

Nancy was a pretty decent performer. Her BJ (covered) was great, with lots of depth, eye contact and moans. The FS was decent too, although having a belly-full of beer sloshing around did detract from the experience a little! As I can never finish in a condom, I slipped it off, and Nancy worked me to a nice finish.

Then she was off to the shower, and I bailed for a taxi.

Total to her, $60 with $11 for the room. With beer, taxis, trolley fare, etc. Total cost was around $100 from door to door. This is about 1/3 the price of an escort in SD, and while it was abit down-market from that experience I thought that it was decent value.

By 9pm or so the crowd was decent, not stuffy hot, unable to move like adelitas gets. Bout 20 or so girls at 10pm, several were definitely interesting though my chica favorita wasnt back yet from her vacation so I was kinda bummed. Like the laid back atmosphere and being able to scan which girl you wanted to go talk too. Even the uglier girls didnt bug too much like they sometimes do. Seeing Carla dance though was definitely a brought back up my spirits! That girl is HOT when she dances. Kinda odd though cause she really doesnt have the curves or big boobs like you'd think a ultra hottie would have. She either stays in the back, walks out real fast outside alone or hangs out a long time with someone buying lots of drinks so still not sure if she 'goes upstairs'.... Havent been able to get her alone yet to find out for sure. Anyone know for sure and does that energy and smile still show up there?

Keep sharing the news. It sucks, but this way our fellow mongerers are better aware of the rip off bitches. Keep posting about the stupid bitches so they'll earn less and less. It's good.

Dark brown/black straight hair about shoulder length, dark eyes, good bod (5-7? 125 lbs?), light skinned and cute face. Seemed in low 20's in age. Kind Sineloa girl looking... about 8 there.

Is pretty hot and she acts like she knows it, kinda crappy attitude and hardly smiled. Doesnt know much english and doesnt really respond when you try to make small talk in spanish. Says she lived all her life in TJ. Score 3.5 there.

Wants the usual $60, is fairly active in bed, though very mechanical and doesnt act like she enjoys your company much or having sex even though she wasnt getting many other offers to go up that night. Still she looks pretty good naked so coming is not too much an issue if you really dont give a damm about what the chick is doing. She is soft and mostly shaved down there yet still 20's young and firm, smells nice. Purely a trophy fuck. score 6.5

Overall 6.0, might repeat for $50 if noone else good around, though she doesnt seem like one I'd ever make a regular.

Went there about 9 or so on a very rainy night. 40-50 women at least during the time I was around. At times there were more chicas then men :) About a quarter of them were very good looking. Jasmine was there and looked good but I wasnt in the mood for a mechanical trophy session again. My chica favorita was there but was busy for awhile with someone else so had to wander around. HK bar was charging a $3 to enter ( they give you a can of modelo beer with it). The spot in front of the dancers unfortunately was in front of a rather stinky one. There were a few other cute ones there but we checked out some of the cuties on the street before going back to Chicago. There I got to enjoy mi favorita's great melons that looked so ripe in her tight yellow dress upstairs . Also was treated to a fantastic dance by the ultra hot Carla downstairs. Wow I'll never be able to hear Shania Twain's "Man, I Feel like a Woman" again without reliving Carla's moves on the dance stage.

Kinda surprised for a weekday night that CC was pretty busy after 9pm or so. Alot of women too prob at least 30+ women at all times with up to maybe 50-60 at times figureing that prob at least 10 were 'upstairs' at any given moment.. My wingman was dying to testfly Karla after drooling about her danceing for so many weeks but unfortunately tonight was the night she was off duty. He tried hooking up with someone from his 'bullpen' at Adelitas but didnt see any of them there. He later hooked up with Fernanda's friend back at CC but he can post about that if he wants to. (he had MAJOR fun it seems ) I was here for my favorita Fernanda.

Hadn't seen her for awhile because of this or that reason but it was nice to see that huge smile and long blond (bleached) mane of hers again and her large ripe natural? melons about to burst out of her tight low cut dress. You can kinda make out her black g-string and bra thru the dress. I have never seen her wear the same dress twice but I found out from her that she sews her own dresses together cause otherwise not even a busy girl like her would be able to afford so many of em! She always seems to wear black underwear though. Anyways after some schmoozing it was time for a nice slow sensual session upstairs. Shes got great boobs and she loves to rub em all over your face and body and even did a bb tit-fk before we got down to the actual thing. The only downer was those damm hotel guys hanging around fairly close to the room we were in. They leave the windows open with the shutters or blinds down so if a girl calls for help with a psycho date they can hear her. It was fairly distracting to hear guys talking and laughing outside your window while your doing your thing. Fernanda too is fairly self concious about making noise when those guys are close by and it's happened enough times that probably next time I'll request a little more privacy or a room further down the hall with a working TV to make a little covering noise.

Fernanda 5' 5" (5'-8" with heels) about 120-130?

Body: 8.5 Great smile, long hair, great rack (seems natural they do have a slight sag and softness like a natural large boob should though still quite firm enough so that its by no means droopy or old ladyish.), nice butt. Biggest flaw is belly scars from tummy tuck. She does put henna flower tattooes over them. I can see guys saying 7 if scars bug em but I dont mind em. Her kitty is kinda close cut 'landing strip' style though not bald. Good enough for me since I'm not a full bush guy.

Attitude: 8 Good talker, she speaks some english and she is trying to get better. Usually pretty cheerful and sometimes playful. With her arresting eyes and smiles she can be extremely charming. She is very mercenary though and while talking to one guy shes scanning the room and signalling with her stare to other guys that she's aware of em or giving em a pat as she or they goes by hehehe...She is there most every night but she is often not downstairs since she get alot of attention pretty quickly and have enough money to leave work before alot of the other girls do. In the room shes pretty cheerful and playful too.

Performance: 7.75 Pretty good attitude upstairs, usually like it more slow and sensual but sometimes does go for the rougher stuff at times. She has pretty strong arms when she gives you the squeeze. Likes older guys alot it seems. Not too restrictive about where your hands can go and what you can do. I dont care about anal stuff so I have no idea if she goes for that at all. Not the tightest kitty but not too loose. Doesnt strike me as the wildcat love sort of girl but YMMV.

Overall: 8.25 Great looks, charming, good upstairs. So far keeps me coming back for more. Even though it's been several months and several visits with her it hasnt gotten old with her yet.

Forgot a couple catagories in Fernanda's report.

Hygiene: 8.25 Everytime I've seen her she always takes a shower afterwards and cleans up beforehand too. Still after the 5th dude or so of the evening sometimes it cant be helped with the crappy soap and towels.

Cost: Usually asks for $60 but she has gone for $50 including the first time I did her. Will use hands/shoulder bumps and alot of seductive looks on you at bar/table when drinking if you seem to need 'convincing'. If you sit accross from her she makes damm sure you get a ample gaze at her wonderful rack by leaning over and crossing her arms below em on the table.

Hit CC after Adelita's. It was way too busy and too hot and too crowded. Sat at the bar and watched the action. I saw Rebecca (later said her name was Anna) with fishnets and very statuesqe. The guy next to me seemed to know her and introduced her to anothr guy at the bar and left. I overheard some of her conversation (in spanish) I couldn't make out a word but she was sweet and animated. I though she had a great attitude. They kept talkin for some time. I saw her motion upstairs and her shook his head no. She started t walk away and I stopped her and asked if she knew English and she said a little bit. We negotiated and went upstairs. Watching those long legs in fishnets in front of me going upstairs got me hot!. In the room she took off her top and let me play with an exceptional boob job. They were soft and lucious. She left her stockings on and shoes and pushed me down to the bed and began to give me a BJ covered. She was awesome, did things with moving here head that made Mr happy stiff with joy. Then I rolled her over and started to mount her mish. I asked if I could kiss her down there and she reluctantly agreed. I lightly kissed her around her thighs and could smell her and it was sweet. I continued to do this for a while and then stopped. She was so into it she begged me to finish up. She loved it! I enjoyed it too. She then pulled me on top and proceeded to wrap those legs around me and fuck me silly. Great time!

Friday night I got mugged in a good way twice by chicas at the CC. Wow, amazing how sore and aching you are later heheh... My back hurts, my legs, feet, shoulders, and stomach muscles are all stiff and painful as I type this. I feel old. I dunno, my regular, Fernanda is getting too popular and eventually it'll get to her head I'm afraid. Still, she came over in her street cloths and gave me a hug outside where I was waiting for my wingman to finish his date, before getting in her taxi to go home and waved goodbye from it too. Good sign I hope.

Earlier I met Leticia de Matazlan whom I haven't talked to for a loooong time. Fernanda was busy with a guy and I'm not gonna sit around alone all day in a sea of hot babes! So funny the Fernanda later told me she saw me with Leti and gave me the sniff test on willie almost immediately when we went to the room to see if the gun was still smoking! Leti has a ok slim bod (not as good as the other Leti whom I'm not sure works there anymore), med dark skin, black straight long hair, about 5'4" + heels and felt about 120lbs and a darling petite voice, light touch and quiet manner. Her face does bear scars of an abusive relationship in the past though, but she does still have a slightly shy cute smile thats a winner.

She did take a good long shower before the session so the knock did come earlier then I thought but she thankfully told em off and we went for another 10-12 minutes before they banged harder again. By then she had already came (with her petite voice it sounded like I was banging a poodle or something) and I was feeling guilty for some bizarre reason. She would have still kept going for me but I told her I didnt want to get her in trouble. I dunno if they actually charge the girl or something if she stays past the 3rd or 4th set of knocks and calling of her number. Overall she was a repeat though she did at first have bad breath but I coarse I had brought the good ol' Listerine Minty Breath Strips with me cause you KNOW where chica mouths have been.

Dunno where earlier post for this time went but here it is again, sorry if its a repeat. Condensed this time though.

CC My regular Fernanda stayed pretty busy, she is so popular now she's going back up with another regular before I have a chance to get to her nowadays heheh. After a couple of times of this tonight I spy'd a cute new face in the corner who acts nervous and looks around alot. Find out her name is Abril (April) and she is a relative newcomer to the place, she says she's been in TJ for a month or so from El Salvador. Tall, long shapely legs and light skinned with brown not black hair, and a big wide smile she didnt look like an El Salvadoren. She didnt speak hardly any english but I kinda do so during the chat with drinks she was very nice, sexy, and her hands were very very 'persuasive' below the table. Well, cant wait around forever for my tapatia favorita... sorry! It was my wingmans birthday and his favorita was upstairs too and he thought April had a nice shape and look too so I asked him if maybe he'd wanna do her. She said no, she wanted me! That was a surprise since my wingman is way better looking than me and has a certain magic with dark haired women.

Well upstairs Abril was a pouncing tiger, hands and mouth everywhere sucking and touching on me. 'Estoy una chica loca!' or something like that she said hehe and it was true. Sure she was faking the lust but dang it felt real real real good. She said she was 20 and naked it looked true, no child marks, big scars, sagging or flab, the bush was sorta trimmed but not landing strip style bout 90% still there. Boobs looked like B cup and seemed natural, she looked pretty good naked and smileing :).The sex was fast and furious and I knew that she was trying her best to rush me by being so crazy but dang I couldnt stretch my time in her. Grrr I dont think I lasted half as long as usual. It was oddly disturbing cause with most girls I can go the full 30 minutes and beyond with those da^$ rubbers, even with someone very sexy like Fernanda I have to force myself to finish to avoid all the knocking. After I popped she went to her room in the hotel to wash up, she hasnt gotten a apartment outside yet.

Did see Abril later in CC and she was still pretty friendly and wanted me to be sure to visit her the next time I come there but I most likely would pass. She is a very cute, friendly, but a rusher, she's better than Jasmine who is a very pretty, a rusher, and pretty cold personalitywise. Plus I overpaid since I didnt haggle in my eagerness to sample fresh talent so it probably would make things worse to pay her less next time.

Hehe no sooner do I walk downstairs and sit down does Fernanda see me and starts coming over flashing that gorgeous smile of hers! We chit chat over a couple of drinks and I give her kind of an early Mother's Day present she can enjoy with her family later since I wont be back before May 8 and I told her last time I'd get her something. She's flashing that brilliant smile and showing ample shots of her incredible cleavage so pretty soon me and her peanut gallery fanclub sitting at the barstools are all salivating like starving dogs. Upstairs we go and she is so nice and wonderful as usual though having no recoup time I kinda had to really force myself to pop before the knocks got too bad and my legs were still kinda gone. Sucks getting old.... She was so nice before, during, and even much afterwards when she was leaving for the night, always a sweetheart. She's still definitely a repeat.

Later about 4:40am while my wingman was having an encore GFE with his favorite and would be gone another hour or so, I went to see if any familier faces were still in the alley. I saw Erica was still there and she was much friendlier and less pushy then in the past month. I got the $20 late night familiar face discount and was pleasently surprised to find that she had lost alot of the attitude and weight she gained during her vacation that made me bypass her. mmmm she was pretty good and cuddly. Some sg cattiness was still there, she asked why I kept walking by and if I had been going to see Andria? (another sg whom I havent seen in months). Still she goes back on my would repeat list.

Got home very tired, very poor, but very happy. Kinda makes the choice to not to grovel and seek further punishment from a bitchy girlfriend again or get married feel less painful.

Was my birthday so went to celebrate it chica style... did the hanging out with relatives and b-day cake stuff but I wanted to taste my favorita's cakes again more! Got there about 10 pm or so, saturday night like crowd at adelitas and cc because of the holidays and a good assortment of chicas too. My wingman had the major hots for Carla and was for sure gonna grab her but alas she wasnt there when he was again. His AB faves were gone too

Finally got ahold of my Chicago regular Fernanda and surprisingly she remembered it was my bday and stuff. She seemed to have gained some pounds during a trip she took earlier but with her it just makes her tits and butt bigger not her belly or face! (why cant more girls be like that if they gotta get fat!) I've never heard so many catcalls whistles and comments as last night leaving with her to go upstairs but I dunno, she's almost too top heavy even though its all natural. The first of the two times I went upstairs with her that night there was a line in the hotel just to use a room so business must be still very good at the cc! She was both times as usual, so nice and gentle and sexy with a great personality and smiles... She lets me do nearly anything to her, nibble and kiss her anywhere but still my favorite thing is just to embrace her with my arms around her great body and her giant soft tits pressed against mine and long brownish blond sweet smelling hair flowing around us as I just enjoy her face and that incredible smile of hers. (she has the beauty pagent smile on automatic) Latinas more than anyone have an astounding array of cute looks, smiles, stares, eyebrow arching techniques they use to mesmorize guys and Fernanda is such a pro at it that its sometimes hard to remember that if the money wasnt there the smiles would turn into something else real quick heheh...

Birthdays are such a double edged sword, I was feeling so old and ugly next to her. So between the times I went with Fernanda, I went to grab a little street girl (veronica?) and get a cheap,dirty, I-could-care-less-about-what-i-am bang with a flaca. Veronica was decent nothing special but did try to hustle for more money upstairs but I wasnt in the mood for anything more other then to blow my load in a girl for cheap.

well i decided to go to CC on sunday night, and met up with the famous frida.. (LOOK UNDER TJ PICS, TJHOOKER1 donnie cabo).. pretty fun time, she wanted $70, talked her down to $60.. great body, nice firm D cup tits, a great tight, bubble ass.. we did some oral, daty, doggie, mish and she even got on top.. lots of moaning and acting, even some gfe.. overall a great session, very friendly, she likes to drink as well..
overall, i like the atmosphere of the chicago club.. there was more room to move around, and you can find some nice jems there.. not as crowded or as hectic as the AB, and there are some real lookers..

Had a trophy at CC named Espana. Say it with the nyuh sound.

.60 for everything & 11 "for the room". Her blowjob was terrible and she started rushing after about 10 minutes. She didn't say anything though, just could tell she wanted to be done. 3 pos. not the best in bed, but she is the best looking ***** in TJ. 5 feet 9 inches around 125 pounds. She is latin looking when you look really close in the light, but otherwise she looks like one of the american models you see in the womens' magazines. She wouldn't allow pictures of any kind.

Sat and Sunday were both kinda of a drag for me since my CC favorita was having that time of month and thus out of action. My wingman though was having the time of his life those 2 nights, he bagged his dreamgirl that turned out every bit as hot as we imagined she'd be, then his regular got jealous so he got hot jealous breakup-makeup sex, then he went in the alley and banged some new street girl that was a wildcat Some guys have all the luck!

I decided to make a quick wednesday run so I kinda held off doing a club girl Sat and sunday and stuck with street girl. One girl I spotted and pointed out to my wingman as acting like a newcomer in Chicago turned out to be just here less then a month. She said her name was Lucita, Carlita? I forgot, from Acapulco, 23?,she was cute, bout 5'6" 125 maybe, cute dark eyes, medium length straight dark hair, b-c tits, light brown complexion. She was semi friendly, cute smile, bout 7.8 in looks.

Bought her drinks to see how she responded and what her price was. She asked for $70! I saw her upset later in the night cause no one apparently is that stupid and horny. What the heck is management telling these new girls? She's a new girl, hasnt really developed a selling style, no rep or stable of regulars yet, it was Sunday night and lots of other really good girls, some also new and very hungry, and I've never dated her before or seen her dance to get an idea of her ability to move. I might have been able to haggle her down to $50 but the way she cooled down after I told her $70 was a little too rich for me made me think she'd not put much effort upstairs and be pouting about not getting full price. She excused herself real quickly after she knew I wasnt gonna give her $70.

I ended up in the alley, Erica was there and looking real good but I wanted something new and didnt want her attitude and games that she sometimes gets. Sat night must have been 100 girls on the alley and sides! I settled with Leti (hehe banged 3 different Leti's in TJ already) who has hanged by cascades forever and has always intrigued me with that slight smile and freckles when I go by. Leti always talks real quietly and only slightly smiles because of her braces. She seems about 5' 6-7" with a nice slim bod and long dark hair and a light complexion. Looks I'd rate a 7 and attitude and performace was about 6.5 Sat night and about 8 on Sunday night. Only real downer is that its at Cascades where the towel boys/time keepers suck! The weather was slightly humid and warm to me cause I sweated like a pig working Leti.

Wednesday night Fernanda was there at Chicago and my wingman's dreamgirl was there too though he couldnt make it there that night. The idea of having a heavenly sandwich with those 2 chicas crossed my mind but another dude quickly grabbed the other girl away. Fernanda looked sooo good as usual and was very nice and sweet and my intention for just buying 30 minutes soon changed to an hour. She was so much more relaxed and energetic on a slow day after a few days off vs a saturday! Cowgirl-on fours with her leaning over me and her big boobs bouncing in rhythm to her moaning and grunting was such a treat to see again. Attitude was 9 that night!

Right now it's 2 am on a Saturday night and I'm fiending BAD for a chica like a crackhead needs his hit. Heheh is there a Chicas Anonymous cause I need help :) 3 visits in a week just made things worse and made me poor for awhile.

Hi Everyone! I'm Belgrath and I'm a Chicaholic.

Karla the chubby who starts early around 7PM gives a good BJ. She is fun to talk to as well. A bit heavy for most monger tastes but a great chica IMO.

YMMV but she may go for less than $40. No rush, great service.

Carla the not chubby from Mataztlan (ohhh those Sinaloa girls :) ) arrives about 9pm or later and is a GREAT dancer and a very good lover... so much so that my wingman and his pal both have jealous former regulars now. She is a B-cup and a morena so fans of big boobed blondes might not be so attracted. She also is hard to talk below $70 though she might be the one girl thats worth it. Alas she wasnt there last Sunday night.

My wingman and his pal talked to Stephanie? a very Barbie doll looking big silicon boobed, blondie who also was from Mataztlan too. She spoke very good english and unfortunately had a crappy attitude, even the chicago bartenders said she's no fun upstairs! Plus she asked for 70 !, are girls trying to raise prices again? I seem to see that asked most often as a starting price lately instead of 60 there. Fortunately for me my regular big boobed blonde, Fernanda, showed up and I had a good old time upstairs. I paid her the usual 60, yeah I prob could (and have in the past) bargain her down to 50 but she's pretty good company most of the time. She did give my wingman sort of a hard time about dumping his regular (one of her friends) for Carla.

Sat night TJ was a zoo with roads clogged and some closed. I dunno, Sat night has to be the worst night to go to TJ for mongering. HORDES of horny dudes overpaying and being ugly americans, AB HK and CC packed to the rim till all hours. CC was a downer saturday night, my favorite blond Fernanda took the night off and all the looker chicks pretty much were always taken or hit their money quotas for the night and went home earlier or something.

Wound up with 2 sg's Lorena (mexico city) again and Diane (from Veracruz). Diane is now my favorite of the sg's for now, 22 cute and playful though her English skills are almost non-existant. Unfortanately she doesnt seem to be around that long and its several visits before I see her again. Her buddy Erica was there and looking GOOD but from visits before she can be moody and sometimes robotic or very very nice. I didnt feel like gambling and went with D.

Thursday night Fernanda was at Chicago club and her magic boobies and smile kept me from straying to streetland that night. My wingman was in heaven since his favorite sg was ready and waiting for him and his wildcat favorita returned to the AB after a 5 month vacation and she smoked him like a hippie does a fattie.

Dunno if my post of a now retired favorita of former days (pre fernanda) made it to the pics post section or bounced back here.

That's actually a lucrative scam for fat, unattractive chicas. Gross the customer out to the point he pays you to go away. I agree the girls at Chicago Club tend to be more reserved but they aren't at Adelita Bar. Those gals are predators.

Got there about 8/5 at 10pm or so by then there were at least 30 or so girls and the place wasnt too packed. Around midnight or so there was about 40 or so girls including the dancer Carla and my regular Fernanda. The place was packed enough later so that getting a table to chat with a girl was kinda tough. Yea some of the girls like Naomi shouldnt be danceing during prime time but others like Carla, Gabriella, Stephanie, Wendy, and Sara plus a few newer ones make watching the strip shows at night pretty interesting most of the time.

Alot of the barstools were taken up by the girls which made picking and choosing easier but did make trying to figure out what kind of figure they really have kinda tough. Alot of newer girls with less then 5months in the place lately at night and alot of the familiar faces are gone. Couple of the fat old pesky ones are still there though as well as some of the 'stars' of the place like Carla, Sara, Wendy or Fernanda who make oodles of money there and are not going anywhere... Personally I dont mind a girl who does sip that 1 fincha drink and makes it last and spends some time with me.. we may not be talking but our hands and feet may doing alot of their own 'communicating' underneath the table! I hate a girl that slams down a pricy drink in 15 seconds and then asks if I want to go upstairs now or buy her another drink! A girl that isnt watching the clock downstairs usually is alot less uptight about finishing fast upstairs and going to the next guy. Sure they are always looking around, its part of the job, they take notes on which guys seem to show up alot and go upstairs (prime targets) or if another girl is stealing away a regular! Many a dude here can testify about getting flack from a favorita after she somehow spotted him with another girl.

The girls dont speak a word of chinese, japanese or korean and asians usually know less spanish than most gringos and are very shy around non asian women so no surprise that its pretty mild till the guy gets horny enough to take her upstairs.

Well onto the report... Fernanda was sitting with some guys and sooo many women sitting alone at the bar and standing against the wall by the bathroom so sat around with my wingman eyeing the scene, sizing up prospects, making smalltalk etc... He soon had a girl sitting with him working on his 'brain override switch' in his pants with her hand and again it would look to passers by that it was just some guy sitting there with a girl not saying much while she nursed a drink.

A small cutie named Ana caught my eye in wearing a tight purple semi see thru dress. She was very shy and quiet and seemed very robotic at first but gradually she seemed to warm up after a little small talk. She knew very very little englishso she was afraid to approach many guys, she had been working there about 5 months, she was only 20 years old, she was from Puebla, worked before as a secretary and knew typing, MS Word, Excel... etc! Obviously she was here to make money, she really didnt like TJ and what she had to do here though she did like cabo and even liked National Parque 1857 which is a few hours away. She was pretty reactive in a positive way though, she didnt start rubbing my leg like alot of girls do but when i rubbed her leg she started stroking my arm and hands. She wanted 60 but when I countered with 50 she agreed with no fuss (I later gave her 10 as a tip and told her it was for being so nice upstairs and to get herself a drink with it on me). Upstairs we did cowgirl and pressed cowgirl with her lying on me with my arms around her followed by mish. Also before we starting we did alot a nude cuddling and stuff, nothing like the soft firm skin of a naked 20 year old girl rubbing her body against yours!

Ana ( de Puebla) 5'3"? with heels 100-105 lbs

Looks: 7.3 cute body, no memorable scars (like Fernanda does) or tattoos, b cups, morena, slightly dark skin, dark hair slightly frosted, hair looks much better upstairs when she lets it down. She does have a bush instead of a landing strip or completely shaved
Attitude: At first 5 but after talking awhile and she got more relaxed I would say about 7. She still isnt a social butterfly by any means but she wont be so shy later.

Sex: 7 This could be hard here cause I dont know what her limits are yet, my first time with her so didnt try the DATY. she didnt try any rush techniques so thats good. She's pretty passive but seemed to like everything I tried on her.

Came down and saw my wingman dancing like a madman by himself alone on the Chicago dance stage to california dreaming. Carla asked me if he was on drugs or drunk heheh.. What brought that on? Well i guess he fullfilled a fantasy of doing 2 girls at 1 time. The hotel jerks did charge him $22 to take 2 girls up in a room at once though.

Later Fernanda was free and she spent some time with me before we went upstairs. She had a tight low cut blue dress that made those beatiful natural tits of hers even more gigantic. She still uses a technique of using her tongue alot to tickle and tap your johnson while doing the bj and it feels nice. Guess she'll be on vacation the next time I'm in TJ so I better hope Diane the SG is out there then heheh..

I was in CC last night and it was a disappointment. I used to go down to TJ all the time, at least 3-4 times a month a few years back. But lately it just doesn't seem the same. Maybe I got burnt out or maybe the quality and service really has slipped. This goes for both AB but especially CC.

I was in CC on and off between 10 and 12 last night and didn't find a single chica who I wanted to do. Maybe part of it is I don't follow who the good ones are anymore. I ended up doing a mediocre chica in AB mostly because my buddy was upstairs in CC and I had to do someone so I didn't go home with blue balls.

Anyways, I'll be down with another buddy tomorrow night and I'm hoping things will be better.

what a difference a couple of nights makes. I was in CC last night and it was way more busy than Tuesday night. Probably 2 or 3 times the girls but unfortunately probably five times the number of guys. But a lot more fun atmosphere. Lots of dancers and the talent level was better.

I brought down a newbie buddy on his second trip and help set him up with a chica who I would have liked to do myself. He sais she was great but I didn't remember her name. I ended up going to AB and really struck out with a lousy chica. She was great and flirty in the bar but terrible upstairs but that's an AB story. I think I've lost my ability to instinctively figure out the good ones, just out of practice. Anyway took one for the team last night.

Yea Tuesday night is bad at CC because alot of the hotter girls take the night off. Saturday night also is often not good simply because with soooo many guys there all the decent looking girls are snapped up instantly leaving only the plain janes and fatties/oldies hanging around. I have to be hanging right by the door on saturday nights to see my favorita when she comes in or else someone grabs her within seconds :(

Was up at CC thurs night for a fling with my favorita, noticed just about all the regular hotties showed up sooner or later by 10pm or so. Even a few new very interesting new faces caught my eye too... Heheh gonna be fun trying out new faces while she's gone on vacation...

Was gonna go for just a half hour but things were so good that I sprung for a second half hour while we were in the room. Problem was the damm towel boys started knocking after only 15-20 minutes on the second 30 minutes! Even my girl called em over and asked why they knocked so soon but the bastards insisted it was 30 minutes! (we did hear alot of foot traffic outside so maybe they got short of rooms like some nights). Bless her though cause she still stayed with me for another 10 minutes till I finished and got my full 30 minutes and she still showered and didnt rush me out the door. I dont think the towel boys like 1 hour or longer dates cause they still get only $1 tip vs multiple 30 min $1 tips for the room.

Ab had several cuties in there though the attitude seemed to businesslike for me and funds were low. The surprise of the night was the Hong Kong bar. Is it just me or has the general quality of the girls there gone up quite a bit over the past several months? Before there were few girls there that I'd pay much attention to but especially last night (thursday) there were alot of very interesting bodies.

Belgrath, when were you in HK Thursday night? I usually take a swing thru there and Thursday me and buddy walked in just as they were starting a two-girl show that was amazing. I'll post about it in the General section since this is the CC thread.

I did an hour session Thursday and got the early knock too. My chica talked to the guy though and we weren't hassled again and went a little past the hour mark without another knock.

Does anyone know her name? I beleive there is only one girl there that has the "studious" look going on.

Tried something new while at CC this time, went with Laura from Mexico city who is not that great looking but has always been friendly and moving to the beat of the music when I've seen her in the past there. She doesnst speak too much english but was pretty active and touchy feely when having her drink and was soon giving Mr Happy a good rubdown at the table.

Was pretty busy that night since the guys had to move couples into rooms on the 3rd floor even! Sex was pretty good, mish, cowgirl, bearhug-cowgirl and then doggie and she was pretty tight even though she did have a kid a few years ago. Her body was pretty soft and squeezable, though it did not compare to Fernanda's. The session lasted about 45 minutes, was glad for the towelboys forgetting us and did pay only $50 which included a tip for her.

Body: 6.5 Light skinned, short brown wavy hair, slightly thick thighs. Hair needs to be longer since her nose is big and attention getting.

Attitude: 7.75 Doesn't get that much customers till fairly late, so she is pretty happy for attention. She tried pretty hard to please though I'm so dang spoiled and jaded nowadays. Likes to touch and be touched/stroked.

Overall: 7 Good attitude and effort though her looks arent that great. Also 50 or less seems to be quite possible to get with her even on busy nights. Carla de Mataztlan was there and looking for company and boy did she look good in a yum yum yellow tight short dress and her full shoulder length black hair! She was shooting down a few guys that didnt meet her standards.

After Laura it was Diana de Veracruz out in the Alley, dang she is such a cutie! Only needed and had money for a 20 min though next time she said she'd do a full hour nude, shower, bj everything for $80. hmmmm

Hong Kong was jumping too that night. They had the shaving cream show, and the show with 4 girls in neon cowgirl outfits and g-strings on stage line dancing and shooting silly string. there also was a lady wearing a devil outfit on stage with fireworks shooting sparks on stage and on some of the patrons. She was shooting a flames with spray can and a lighter during her dance.

Went to CC over the long weekend.

Not much crowd. I expected that there would be a lot more because of the holiday. Looks like most of the crowd was with family.

Well anyway, picked up a short cutie named veronica and wanted to take her up. She asked if her friend could also come along and I was ok with it. The friend was Cassandra (not so great looking but had a wonderful way of doing things).

Was a really great experience and will go back for them!

There was a police raid @ CC last night. Never been at the club when 1 of those things happened. An unintended side benefit to this is that they turned all the lights on so you got a REAL good look at all the girls. All the girls had to go to the back room to have a visit with the federales. They trickled back into the main room but you couldn't exit with them until they were all clear. I was told that when they come in it's either to inspect health papers, look for drugs or search for undocumented foreign workers. Last night it was for the last reason. Imagine that. I'm in TJ and they're looking for illegal aliens! LOL

This is my 1st post in the TJ section... y'all could pretty much guess by my nick that I prefer to monger in Europe, but I go check out TJ a couple of times a year.

After the federales left I ran off with Carla for a TLN. Boy, were her regulars p.o.'d!

They came in at about 12:45 and didn't leave until after 1:30AM

You lucky dog if you got THE Carla from Matazlan, (Tall, slim but shapely, long muscular legs, gorgeous kinda round face, shoulder length black hair, bout b cups, VERY good dancer) to go TLN. She doesnt come cheap either...

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After the federales left I ran off with Carla for a TLN. Boy, were her regulars p.o.'d![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Belgrath]You lucky dog if you got THE Carla from Matazlan, (Tall, slim but shapely, long muscular legs, gorgeous kinda round face, shoulder length black hair, bout b cups, VERY good dancer) to go TLN. She doesnt come cheap either...[/QUOTE]

Yup. Flagged her down immediately after her first dance of the night... she didn't dance a 2nd time. And no, I wouldn't recommend it if you're on a budget.

The Feds raided AB a month or so ago. Being suspicious, I'm thinking someone did not pay enough protection or did not pay it to the "right" people. I wonder how much these raids are actually producing in terms of real drugs.

Mexican independance day festivities were going on in full force outside and inside the club... red white and green everywhere especially on the girls clothing. Spent a couple of drinks with Lara who has wandering hands under the table :) Might have gotten her to go upstairs for $40 since she was having a slow night and there were alot of good looking girls there but I did her last time.. Settled later on Marianna? from Veracruz, petite bleach blond with giant 34D breasts (fake) busting out of a skintight dress. She acted like a newcomer to the club since she was kinda nervous the whole time. Decided to risk a $50 even though she was older and she readily agreed. She had a very nice body and let my hands fully appreciate her breasts and hips. She did the bj on her knees and it was a turn on to see her eyes looking up like that.Sex was ok though she still seemed nervous, it was like banging Cheri Oteri's Saturday Night live cheerleader character is some ways heh..

Face 6 Older lady definitely in 30's though doesnt look too old
Body 7 has stretchmarks on belly from child otherwise 8
Performance 6.5 Did everything asked though seemed jittery might be more at ease with later visits..

Later on in the alley took Lorena who had been getting rather angry with me since I started seeing Diana more. Everythings ok now, money cures nearly everything in the alley it seems.

AB and often CC are pretty busy theres gotta be more stories to tell from others! Friday night the Fernanda that I know and like had returned from a sort of long vacation, she kinda had a new hairstyle that I dunno made her look a little sleazier though, sort of a slighty frizzed 'just fu*ked' look as an old girlfriend used to say... her smile and great attitude hadnt changed so we had a nice time upstairs, her body, especially her chest, still bangin as ever, even took a few shots of the whole thing though sorry I promised her they were for my eyes only....sorry.

Karla wasnt there though so no super sexy pole dancing though there were a few other good looking dancers that night. Kati was dancing there and looked nice, Sara was looking good though I hear she's a robot upstairs. Usually there were about 60 girls and 100 guys in the room friday night so it wasnt too hard to move around though getting a table was kinda hard. Alot of the nicer girls didnt disappear too fast unlike saturday nights so got to see alot of eye candy in between girls.

Afterwards since stayed she busy the whole night meeting old friends and stuff I hit the Alley and had more fun there! See SG section.

Alot have left for the holidays but the management has brought in several new girls too over the past few months so things are still pretty good in CC and AB most nights past 9pm. (Mon and Tues still kinda bad in CC). Saturdays still kinda suck at both places since too many guys show up and so the chicas try to rush thru as many as they can then, and the good or pretty ones get snatched up real fast.

Recent sightings at CC: Karla de Matazlan, Bebe, Sara, Wendy (loca!), Corina de sonora, Gabby, Pilar, Leticia de Matazlan, Abril de El Salvador, Isabel the SG, Marinna? D-cup..

Hi Belgrath,

I stopped in CC Friday night and they were celebrating the birthday of CC gangster style. There seemed to be many girls in there so I did not notice a big drop off. Is Carla de Matzalan still around. When I used to hang out a lot there, my girlfriend would comment how beautiful Carla was and how perfect her body was. I met Carla’s sister Moncie at AB over the summer and she was pretty cute herself. I don’t think I have ever seen anybody write how good a session Carla was?

Jimmy TJ

Karla was around dancing on stage around Thanksgiving time. Forgot if it was before or after thanksgiving. She is good in bed and clean but a pro at heart.

As a SoCal monger, I have been fortunate to be able to go to TJ on a semi-regular basis over the past 8-10 years. Before that, we're talking pre-internet, pre-Brockton days, and I didn't know how easy it was to indulge here. I wish I knew then what I know now. This was likely to be my last TJ experience, because I am moving to another part of the country and will have no opportunity to return.

I went down on Friday 12/23. Lots of SW were out. AB had plenty of mongers, but the chica selection was minimal. Las Chavelas and Tropical seemed to be full of mostly local non-pros. I didn't even bother with HK, as they were selling beer at the door as a cover charge/minimum.

That left me with CC. It seemed to be a little less crowded than normal, as could be expected with the holiday. I parked at the bar about 3 seats past the waiter station. Normally the bar is where lots of the girls are posted, but there were several empty seats. A minute or two later, a short, cute gordita chica sat next to me. I expected her to start chatting me up and selling me right away, and I was ready to turn her down and start walking around again. I mean, this is TJ, and I can get a beautiful young flaca. Why should I compromise and "settle" for a large butted, although cute and young girl.

She was Brenda de Veracruz, 23 yo. To my surprise, she completely left me alone. I glanced her way a few times and she smiled, but that was it. So she was playing hard to get? I started talking to her gradually with a few comments here and there in my limited Spanish. She spoke only when I spoke to her and asked my name and where I was from only after I asked her. She didn't seem shy, just polite. I got the feeling that if I hadn't said anything in the first place, she never would have done so on her own.

I am one of those mongers who really resists buying the ficha drinks. It just seems like such a racket. But after about 45 minutes, I was enjoying her company so much that I offered to buy her a drink. She graciously accepted. I was very intrigued by her attitude and her reserved manner. She seemed to have a quiet dignity and self confidence. Finally I got around to asking her to the room. Again, I don't think she would have ever brought it up. I had to take the initiative. I broke one of my own rules, and didn't discuss price. I did tell her I like to suck on chichis and play with the panocha. She smiled in an almost embarrassed way, and said OK.

We went up to the room. I asked how much and she said $60. I was a little disappointed at this, as I was hoping for a non-hottie discount. I said OK, do you want the $ now or after? She said it was up to me. Now things are getting better!

She used the bathroom while I disrobed. She put the condom and her lube on the edge of the bed and laid down on her side. I laid next to her and started kissing her chichis, and kind of moved around onto her back and the back of her neck. I started to give her a back and shoulder massage, which I could tell she greatly enjoyed. I took my time kissing and rubbing, while exploring with my hands.

I think this prelude/foreplay is what made this session, because from here on in it was total GFE. Of course, YMMV, but I just kept kissing her back, neck, ears, sides, etc., and she just seemed to get more and more into it. She rolled onto her back and had me in full DFK liplock. We made out and I started my way down. I usually don't DATY with TJ hookers, but I was lost in the moment. She seemed to be a little hesitant even at this point, but only for a moment. She was into it too. I eventually made my way back up where there was further DFK. No hesitation with the pussy juice on my face-she didn't mind. She did stop kissing me for a second, sat up, and tossed the unused lube onto the nightstand, then back to kissing. She then put on the condom, and it was on to the main event. I tried to hold out for as long as I could because we both were enjoying ourselves. But I soon lost it and had a great finish. I laid on her for a couple of minutes. Then I rolled off, but we still laid there and cuddled until the knock came a few minutes later. Lots of these girls jump up, clean up, and rush out the door. I appreciated the extra attention.

We went back into CC, and found a table. Normally I would just say goodbye and leave, but I liked being with her. We sat and talked and watched people for another couple of hours. It was 2 AM, and I was at the point where I was either going to leave, or take her upstairs again. That would have been a first for me. I'm a middle-aged guy, and twice in that short of a time span is a challenge for me. Anyway, I decided to leave.

This was my best TJ experience. It just wasn't very "business-like". I find myself daydreaming about this girl. Our hobby is full of danger-ROBs, rateros, policia- but I didn't anticipate the danger of having the memories of a killer session with a wonderful girl haunting me for the rest of my life.

Good luck guys. Maybe years down the road, I might make it back to SoCal or TJ. I'll be missing it.

I saw a girl there with what seemed to be an enhanced rack, long blonde hair and the thinnest little waist, hips and ass I have ever seen in TJ. You could wrap your hands those hips. It looked like she could barley take a pencil width cock, (although I have know small girls with big pussies and if she works there...).

Has anyone ever been with her?

Amigos,

Was at CC Saturday night. Saw a tall blonde dancer with tan skin and wearing shiny silver two piece bikini. She speaks only Spanish. She quoted $80 to go upstairs. I saw her go up about five times in about three hours.

Anyone have the 411 on her identity and performances? She must of made some serious $$$ that night

Also saw Stephanie, the tall brunette dancer with the Asiatic face and silicon chest. She was quoting $70. Any info on her?

Looks like a kitchen they are adding at Adelitas?

The new restroom looks pretty cool.

Was there wed night Feb 10th and met up with one of my favoritas Fernanda who looked as hot as ever and had just come back from a long long vacation. It had just been her bday a couple days ago so brought her a present. Still with a killer smile, big natural tits and nice fun personality, still about 120 on a 5'3 frame so not a spinner but her buxom figure is still not fat. Long hair is blondish brown and back to strait after experimenting with frizzing it. Still willing to titfuck and rub those giant hooters all over your body. Nice slow sensual session. Careful with good hygine, showers after sex. Now taxes damm bills and other drama prevents me from going again for awhile so treat her well guys..

Some other hotties were hanging around like Ingrid, Ashley, Perla and Mary ann (grecia) that night too, Good night overall after 10 :30 pm or so... Not too many guys and for bargin hunters alot of the second tier girls would go for 50 and not resent not getting 60 at all.

Which one is Fernanda? Never seen one that fits your description. TIA.

Fernanda is there usually from 8pm to 2am wed. thru sunday nights. She has alot of regulars and is usually upstairs more often then not. She takes looong vacations too so its not surprising you havent seen her yet. Late Wed or thursday nights are best bets for seeing her.

CC has alot of 7's and 8's with alot of charm. AB has probably more 8's and alot more 9's though the atmosphere and crowds dont allow you to develop much of a rapport with a chica before its time to decide yea or nay. CC girls usually have more time so you can flirt and charm them a bit before arriba and it definitely helps push the YMMV factor in your favor.

Who on this forum has had any dealings with Wendy? If you are a true Chicago monger then you will know who she is. For newbies she is one of the sexy dancers who always dances to heavy rock or alternative like Marylin Manson or System of a Down. What are your experiences with her? She seems to really love the sex and she never rushes or leaves you with a bad experience (that is unless you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off, then look out). She has long dark hair, huge boobs and a great ass. Very pretty face too. I would be interested in comparing notes on her.

Yes, Wendy is wild in the sack. She's a screamer and wants you to be completely drained when you leave the room.

She's also fucking nuts. If you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off (I have) she will go apeshit on you, kick you in the cajones and become a lying ***** when she's called on the carpet to the manager. ( I did that, too).

That was about a year ago and I've seen her there many times since.

We only smile at each other and don't push the issue.

She has 4 kids and a god awful butcher's scar from her liposuction, too.

Only reason I took her up was cuz I liked the way she danced (hate that music) and she reminded me of Salma Hayek.

Good luck and protect your balls.

FP

She is noisy in the sack! Ive heard her yelp clear across the hotel while I was in a room banging another chica.. She'll grab you hard on the crotch if you say hi to her or sometimes just smack you upside the head, especially if you dont take her up. Does a pretty wild spinning dance act on stage.

Yes real snow (well more like little hail) fell from the sky Friday night about 3:30 am. I was up stairs with Reyna, (5'3", slim, real B's, black wavy hair below sholders. Claims to be 1/2 Arabic and 1/2 Puerto Rican. She can be picked out of the crowd by here oral fixation - she is always sucking on something while sitting around) when a killer storm rolled through, thunder shook the hotel, lights went out twice and when I walked out the streets were running like a river and the Cabs and sidewalks were covered with an inch of slush.

Now for the Reyna report - Fantastic. Smoking hot body, two little tats on the tummy - a true sex machine. Great oral skill then She mounted up CG and I slid one hand around to rub the little man in the boat and she started squirming and shaking - I was on my fourth vitimin V run so I had some time. She just kept cuming and cuming - quite a show. She never slowed down for the storm, the lights going out or the knocks on the door.

The rest of the trip was standard fare. I seem that over the years I have pulled my best experiances out the CC.

Are my tastes that different? I read about how many great chicas are here but on Sunday there were NONE! Some were down right scary. If you don't care if they are fat, ugly but just have a hole, I guess it's okay. Checked several times and always the same. Adelitas was also poor but had at least a couple of lookers.

Has anybody been with Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara? She is skinny like 100lbs, morena with hair pulled back. Pretty. A guy I met at Chicago said she has been there a long time. The thing is she quoted me $80 and would not go down! Has anybody experienced this at Chicago or with this girl?

Has anybody been with Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara? She is a skinny small morena. Has her hair pulled back in a bun. Pretty. A guy I met at Chicago said she had been there a long time. The thing is she quoted me $80! I didn't take her up but wanted to. Has anybody else been quoted more than $60 at Chicago or with this girl?

[QUOTE=Marvin]Has anybody been with Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara? She is a skinny small morena. Has her hair pulled back in a bun. Pretty. A guy I met at Chicago said she had been there a long time. The thing is she quoted me $80! I didn't take her up but wanted to. Has anybody else been quoted more than $60 at Chicago or with this girl?[/QUOTE]Nice face/style, almost like Spanish, but her body sags from stretching with no muscle. $80, you must look like a chump :)

[QUOTE=Conejito]Nice face/style, almost like Spanish, but her body sags from stretching with no muscle. $80, you must look like a chump :)[/QUOTE]Well, she has a slutty ***** face and her front teeth are fucked up from sucking so much cock. Nice style...fucking 10 guys in one hour. It's alright I took the girl next to her for $60 (probably could of gone to $50). Norma had a bewildered look on her face when she heard her friend say $60. I don't care if I look like a chump in some *****s eye.

Went on another excursion last night and met some interesting people.

Hit the border at about 10:30 and headed straight for Ab's as usual. As soon as I walked in I just wasn't feeling it. It was already overpacked, music was loud as hell and and I had 3 mesero's hit me up before I was even 5 feet in the damn door! I made a courtesy pass any way and nothing grabbed my attention. I was going to stick it out when at least 4 of the girls made comments about my cigar and how bad it smelled. Which I know for a fact is BS. I'm Sorry AF Short Stories don't smell bad. I'd had enough and headed for Chicago. Total elapsed time in Ab's 20 minues? If that.

Chicago was already packed! Not overly packed like Ab's but it was pretty damn close! I've never seen it that full that early on Saturday. I made a cursory pass and noticed at least 5-6 girls I'd never seen before! They were all good looking too At least one 10 and the others at least 8's or 9's. IMHO.

I couldn't find a table or open stool so I took up roost near the stage and waited. One of the new girls "the 10" was dancing. She was at least 5'8" 110 lbs. C Cup. Long cury hair and wearing a gold bikini. Unfortunately ever time the DJ said her name, he said it too fast I missed it everytime. It only took the Mesero's 15 minutes to finally hit me up for a drink. Which didn't bother me at all. I got my drink(6$ I only drink alcohol) and tipped him $2. He asked me if I needed a table. I said yeah for one. He looked around and right in front of me was a rather large gentlemen sitting by himself. Now before I go any further. If this guy was one of the members on here. I truly apologize. This was not my idea and I had nothing to do with it. Anyway, the mesero asks him I can sit with him since he's alone too. He's says no. Then one of the other mesero's asks him the same question cause he has two guys who need a table too. He again says no. The mesero's start giving him shit! I tell my guy it's cool. I'm ok standing. So he quits but the other mesero is still laying in to him. So this guy gets all pissed grabs his jacket and storms out of the place. Damn near knocked over the table and almost took out one of the girls on his way out!

The mesero's are apologetic to us and offer up his table. I sit down with the other two guys and enjoy the scenery. It doesn't take the two other guys long to find some chicas and they soon want a table of their own. About 30 mins go by and off they go. By this time, I've already downed my third mixed drink. What can I say I was thirsty. One guy hits me up and asks if I'm going to be leaving soon cause if I am if he could have my table. I tell him I'm not but if he wants, him and his friends are welcome to join me. They're a couple of cats from L.A. and they were pretty damn cool. We hung out together for at least 2 hours..shooting the shit and scoping out ass. By the time they took off. I had gone through 4 more drinks and another cigar. They all had hooked up with a chica. I was still "shopping".

I was starting to fill really good at this point. So I decided to get my groove on. I scoped out the scene and all the new talent was occupied. I finally settled on a chica by the name of "nadine" I think it was. She had pale skin, in her 30's. about 5'6" 120lbs. and decent size C cup. I think she said she was from DF.She asked for the money up front. She took a shower first. Which was new for me. I joined her and messed around for a litle bit. Then we hit the bed and she rubbed some kinda heating lube/gel on her boobs and ass. I'm thinking the K/Y warming sensation. She started with CBJ. to reverse cowboy to cowboy to k-9, to mish and finish. Took me the whole 30 minutes. She got up and took another shower. I joined her yet again and se fue.

Girl: 7
Presentation:7
In the sack:7
English:0
Total experience: 8

Left there and hit up Juan for some hotdogs and a coke! My fav. He ran out of grilled onions on my last dog damnit! I decided I wanted another stogie and another drink and walked over to Ab's. It was still packed but had thinned out. Grabbed a stogie and stool at the new bar. It's intereresting sitting at the new bar. You can get a pretty good view of the entire place and when the girls dance you're at a pretty good height to take everything in. I finshed my drink and grabbed a cab north. No problems with immigration. However, I almost got to see a fist fight break out in the line between some "friends". Good times!

Stopped by with my girley after visiting AB for a half hour or so. At least CC feels like there is game happening and the atmosphere is much better than AB where it feels like a **** farm. You go in, get hussled, maybe have a decent session then leave so somone else can take you place.

Lots of vets in there though who seemed to be having fun.

CC was jumping. I hope they become what AB was.

I would suggest CC for the best "recreational" mongering, then the alley, then Tropical then AB as a LAST resort.

Country John

Saw Marlena (sp?) in CC tonight. Beautiful dark-haired thin girl almost always wearing a smile. Seems to spend most of her time either talking to her jean-skirted friend or text messaging on her cell. Can anyone vouch for her skills upstairs?

Thanks from a former lurker.

So I headed to TJ for my first and definitely not last visit. I stayed at the Motel 6, about 3/4 of a mile from the border, and walked over.

I first hit AB and after a bit thought it was way to crowded. There were a lot of 8-9's around but again it was a bit stuffy. I left and headed to HK. I arrived just in time to see the whipcream show. Two very fine looking girls, both 9's, were covered in whipcream. One guy clearly couldn't care about what he was wearing as he went up on stage and laid there while one of the girls rubbed all over him. I stuck around and had a few beers. Another exhibition came when a guy was taken on stage, went full monty, and was covered in whipcream. He certainly wasn't self-conscious as everybody was commenting on what "little" he had downstair. Entertained, I took off and head to CC.

It was crowded but not as much as AB. The smoke did a number on my as it was messing with my contacts. I didn't bring any solution with me and I wasn't about to walk all the way back so I dealt with it. A walked around and checked out the girls and then took a spot on the wall opposite the bar. A brunette, about 5'2", short hair, B-cups, and about a 7 came up to me. She said in semi-broken English, "You want to go up, fucky-fucky? " I laughed and said "I thought we were in Mexico and not Bangkok? " It took her a bit but she smiled and had a cute laugh. Needless to say we went up and stood in line. "I feel like we're in line at "Adult Disneyland". " This got a laugh out of the other guys waiting.

When we finally got a room, it was a straight to business. She started with a BBHJ, using her spit as lube. Once hard, she moved to a CBJ. Finally, it was MISH, my least fav position on account of my lower back; a little CG, RCG, more CBJ, and more CG. She finished me off with a two-handed BBHJ and a lot of her spit. Most girls will stop once you pop, but she kept stroking until I was done. So we cleaned up, gave her the $60 and left.

So with my TJ cherry popped I was already planning on my visit. I'll say this much, I think I had more fun here then in Vegas.

Just got back from two days in TJ. Chicago was pretty slow this afternoon. Spent about an hour in the club. Nothing over a 7. Headed to Adelitas.

Hello,

Does anyone know Monica from the Chicago Club? She has blond/brown hair. Looks Caucasian. Works at night (usually stands in the small alcove on the right when you enter). Almost always wear pants. Breasts about C or D. Speaks English very well. Has a San Diego phone number and a black SUV. I really miss her and cannot find any information about her in this forum. She did work before at Adelitas. Pants often white. Very nice figure. Please help, who is she did anyone meet her?

Belusa

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Never have seen less then 40-50 guys on a saturday night after 9pm or so... pisses me off since I often cant get a good table to sit down and chat and play touchie feelie games with a chica under the table. :) Either that or my favoritas are all sitting with dudes already or being taken upstairs [/QUOTE]Welcome to the toss up world of mongering. This is one reason I prefer street shopping to bars. Solution at CC is to get there at 8 or 8:30 and put in your waiting time. Then you have a choice of seats & chicas. It's a boring wait but you see them cuming through the door so you can pounce before they make it to the dressing room.

Fellow mongers,

I stayed at a hotel within walking distance from the Chicago Club but I lost the name & number. Wondering if someone here can help.

Directions are as follows:
1 - Walking out of the Chicago Club, you make a left and walk about 100 feet to the corner of the street.
2 - Do not cross the street but instead make another left and go to the end of the block.
3 - The hotel is right on this corner. Same street as Adelitas but I freaking lost their business card.

Any help would be appreciated. Planning to go to TJ within the next couple weeks.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

[QUOTE=BowHuntMopar]Fellow mongers,

I stayed at a hotel within walking distance from the Chicago Club but I lost the name & number. Wondering if someone here can help.

Directions are as follows:
1 - Walking out of the Chicago Club, you make a left and walk about 100 feet to the corner of the street.
2 - Do not cross the street but instead make another left and go to the end of the block.
3 - The hotel is right on this corner. Same street as Adelitas but I freaking lost their business card.

Any help would be appreciated. Planning to go to TJ within the next couple weeks.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!![/QUOTE]

Was it a pretty nice hotel compared to the regular shitholes in the zona?

Place called "Hacienda de Santiago"

Don't know if these #'s are still active for HDS but you can try :)

011526646854646

011526646857598

011526646856286

Just dial it like that from the u.s.

This place is starting to give ABs a run for it's money. The girls are looking much hotter and more GFEs are to be found for very reasonable prices. Dollar for dollar this place is the best buy for your money. My recs are Claudia of Mazataln, Marisol of Mexico city and Adriana (big juggs!) of Sinaloa. Has anyone seen the Salma Hayek (younger version) look alike? Who is she? everyone in the place was going nuts over her.

[QUOTE]This place is starting to give the Adelita Bar a run for it's money.[/QUOTE]While I concur that things are looking up a little at the Chicago Club, I think it's a stretch to say that it rivals the Adelita Bar.

Granted, there are some hotties working there now. I recently discovered Tania standing in front of the main bar, about halfway down toward the ladies room. She was young and fresh and slim, with a cute face and friendly vibe. In the room she was just awkward and shy enough to be sweet, and her size five figure was close to perfect. Despite her somewhat diffident technique I thought Tania's fresh off the bus vibe was close enough to a GFE to warrant the $60 tariff. I also liked that the hotel used by the Chicago Club girls is marginally less creepy than the place upstairs from Adelitas, and it thankfully lacks the assembly line atmosphere.

But the Chicago Club still has a long way to go to be competitive with the Adelita Bar. Young fresh hotties are few and far between in the Chicago Club lineup, and there are WAY too many old fat chicks hanging around. Even assuming there's a girl you wanna fuck on a given night, finding her is a big challenge. The Chicago Club's "sit and drink" business model means that at peak times a significant percentage of the girls are out of circulation. At times, the place operates more like a ficha bar than a place to get laid. I realize that some guys (specially the Asians, apparently) like to sit and drink with the girls. But that aspect of the club's business definitely conflicts with the hookup aspect.

To use a popular cliche, I understand the Chicago Club "is what it is." And I realize the owners are unlikely to depart from a format that's worked for decades. But there are two incremental changes they could make that would go a long way toward improving the place.

First, improve the lighting. There are definitely girls in the Chicago Club that want to hookup and go up. In fact, during busy times there are quite a few of them, in the alcove near the front of the club, along the long main bar, and sometimes even in front of the ladies room. But the lighting is so bad you can't get a good look at them. The current iteration of the Adelita Bar shows how it should be done. The lighting is bright enough that you can see the girls, without being so bright as to be distracting or to detract from the party mood. The wavelength (color temperature) of the lighting is warm and flattering, without being overly theatrical. When I visit the Adelita Bar, the lighting reminds me of a high class club in the states. Except of course that you can fuck any of the girls.

Meanwhile at the Chicago Club, the alcove is shrouded in gloom so dark that the girls disappear into the shadows. The girls who hang out in front of the main bar are slightly easier to see, but they are backlit by the bar lighting. The lighting in front of the ladies room and DJ booth is marginally better. But few girls stand there, unless it's really busy. If these areas were lit better, we'd be able to find diamonds in the rough like Tania.

Second, scale back the strip shows. When the dancers are on stage the lights elsewhere in the club are dimmed, making a bad situation worse. Moreover, the dancers just aren't that hot. And even when a hottie or two sneaks into the stripper lineup, I'd rather have a chance to take her upstairs than watch her supposedly "artistic" strip show that drags on forever while she extorts a dollar from every damn guy in the club. Again, I realize the strip shows have part of the Chicago Club formula forever. But at the very least, they should be reduced in length and they should leave the (hopefully brighter) lights in the rest of the club up while the dancers are on stage. Like they do at the Adelita Bar. (Notice a theme here?)

I'm a free markets kinda guy, so it concerns me to see the Adelita Bar make periodic improvements to their physical plant (which has obviously improved business) while the Chicago Club lagged behind. The recent slight increase in the number of hotties at the Chicago Club is a positive development. But it's still no contest.

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especially the dead mannequins in Adelitas....[/QUOTE]Hahaha! At least they suck on a lollipop all night while they're trying to get your attention.

Geek

[quote=bunky]to use a popular cliche, i understand the chicago club "is what it is." and i realize the owners are unlikely to depart from a format that's worked for decades. but there are two incremental changes they could make that would go a long way toward improving the place.

first, improve the lighting. there are definitely girls in the chicago club that want to hookup and go up. in fact, during busy times there are quite a few of them, in the alcove near the front of the club, along the long main bar, and sometimes even in front of the ladies room. but the lighting is so bad you can't get a good look at them. the current iteration of the adelita bar shows how it should be done. the lighting is bright enough that you can see the girls, without being so bright as to be distracting or to detract from the party mood. the wavelength (color temperature) of the lighting is warm and flattering, without being overly theatrical. when i visit the adelita bar, the lighting reminds me of a high class club in the states. except of course that you can fuck any of the girls.[/quote]i disagree with the assessment of the lighting in chicago club vs. adelitas bar. while ab is crawling with hotties, the pinkish lighting while warm in wavelength is bright enough where you feel that you are being watched. and i mean watched not in the sense that someone is following you but watched in the sense that there isn't any privacy. you can clearly see faces way across the room. everytime i'm in ab, i feel that i am on display.

chicago club on the other hand is darker and cozier. the long bar is genius in my opinion because there is enough room for scores of people to sit, converse, negotiate, drink and yet not get the sense of being on display. the lighting around the other tables and booths are low enough where you can entertain (or be entertained by) a hottie and enjoy a good conversation without having other ladies or patrons peering at you.

chicago club is great for the vip-like sense of privacy which is what i think every monger wants.

Heard better things about Chicago than in the past. Went to Adelitas first and saw lots of hotties but way too many bolt-ons that turn me off. Saw Sarah Geller lookalike (Vampire killer) but she was busy all night. Finally, she sat down and lit up but when I got close, she seemed cold. Anyone comment?

Went to Chicago. Sure enough lot more chicas than in past. Bad news, lots of fat and ugly ones around. Would not take them for free. Saw one stunner, bleached blonde with very light skin, a see cup that was enhanced but very good natural looking to fit her bod. Couldn't get close to her. Like others say, too many possible ones tied up drinking in seats for fichas.

Saw another exotic looking slim girl, Brittany (sure, it is her real name) with enhanced see cups proportional to her body. She said she is from Puerto Vallarta. After hearing her name got bad vibes about what else might be fake so I passed.

Went to Adelitas first and saw lots of hotties but way too many bolt-ons that turn me off. Saw Sarah Geller lookalike (Vampire killer) but she was busy all night. Finally, she sat down and lit up but when I got close, she seemed cold. Anyone comment?

Sounds like Isabella. Hair is fake, boobs are fake, passion is 100% real.

If you go back, give her a shot.

What's a bolt-on?

[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's a bolt-on?[/QUOTE]
I think he means fake boobs or any other type of plastic surgery "enhancements", something not altogether uncommon in the Tijuana P4P scene. Some guys aren't turned off by that at all; personally I prefer mine all natural.

Hey Mongerers,

I wanted to report of the gold mine I have discovered recently at the Chicago Club. I have been frequently visitng TJ during this football season to place bets at Caliente. After my games are over, I usually head out to the Zona. Over the past few weeks I have been making a pit stop over at the Chicago. AB's is nice but I am really tired of those lazy hoe's standing around waiting for you to appraoch them. Whatever happened to these ho's seducing us guys? I'm also tired of seeing so much silicone. Too much bolt ons everywhere. They should be referred as Frankenho's.

I have noticed the quality at CC's really picking up this year. The number of girls is much lower than AB's but I believe that they will soon start giving AB's a run for their money. There is a very good selection that I sometimes wonder why they are not at AB's because they can make alot more money due to the volume at AB's.

Over the past 2 months I have been with 4 girls there. All of them hot. Unfortunately I can not remember their names. Last night I was with Brenda. Blond very light skin girl with huge natural tits. She looks Caucasion but she is Mexican from DF. Excellent service. Prior to this I was with this other amazonian type latina that likes to wear wigs. Huge natural DD tits with at least one inch nipples. She looks like a porn star and the service is very porn star like. I wish I can remember her name. She was there last night but I wanted to try something different. The two other ones were hot as well.

The best part of the above, I paid fifty for 3 out of the four. This is what they quoted. Brenda offered the same deal but I paid her sixty due to the great service.

I thought you guys should know this so you can check out this club. I am sure you will all be pleasantly surprised. Let me know what you think by posting on this thread.

I hate bolt ons.

I have sortied through just about all the clubs in the Zona, but have come to feel the 'homey', relaxed atmosphere in Chicago Club. I've also made quite a few friends among the chicas, and staff, and the policia out front.

I'm fond of being distinctive, and I have no fear, so, I've regalled the masses by wearing a kilt (which drew some great attention, and some good questions; and explained to the plaid wearing chicas, which clan their tartan represented, followed by a long explanation about over check and under check.), a tuxedo on New Year's Eve, and the perinnial favorite, a Stetson. There is an older woman that comes though and sells chips and such, mostly to the girls, I have a true warm spot for. I like the overall quality of the girls, some are true natural beauties. I have seen several girls that could make a lot more doing Sunday newspaper circular ads, than what they are doing.

But I think, by and large, just going about making friends, and having the 'neighborhood' bar feeling, is great.

I usually don't even cross the border going south til after midnight, and if I don't have breakfast with one of the girls at the little restaurant next door, then I'm not coming north til 4 or 5 am. Amd I've had no, hhmm, 'safety' concerns.

[QUOTE=Pico1972]Hey Mongerers,

I wanted to report of the gold mine I have discovered recently at the Chicago Club. I have been frequently visitng TJ during this football season to place bets at Caliente. After my games are over, I usually head out to the Zona. Over the past few weeks I have been making a pit stop over at the Chicago. AB's is nice but I am really tired of those lazy hoe's standing around waiting for you to appraoch them. Whatever happened to these ho's seducing us guys? I'm also tired of seeing so much silicone. Too much bolt ons everywhere. They should be referred as Frankenho's.

I have noticed the quality at CC's really picking up this year. The number of girls is much lower than AB's but I believe that they will soon start giving AB's a run for their money. There is a very good selection that I sometimes wonder why they are not at AB's because they can make alot more money due to the volume at AB's.

Over the past 2 months I have been with 4 girls there. All of them hot. Unfortunately I can not remember their names. Last night I was with Brenda. Blond very light skin girl with huge natural tits. She looks Caucasion but she is Mexican from DF. Excellent service. Prior to this I was with this other amazonian type latina that likes to wear wigs. Huge natural DD tits with at least one inch nipples. She looks like a porn star and the service is very porn star like. I wish I can remember her name. She was there last night but I wanted to try something different. The two other ones were hot as well.

The best part of the above, I paid fifty for 3 out of the four. This is what they quoted. Brenda offered the same deal but I paid her sixty due to the great service.

I thought you guys should know this so you can check out this club. I am sure you will all be pleasantly surprised. Let me know what you think by posting on this thread.[/QUOTE]I do believe the lady you're refering to as having 'star' quality, the wearer of wigs, is none other than BeBe J. and she does give excellent service.

I have noticed one other quality she possesses, that puts her in one of the higher ranking classes of angel. She will tend to cater to, hhmm, clients that perhaps the whole rest of the room will disdain. A couple of weeks ago, she very proudly led a young man, I would guess, that he was afflicted with a physical or mental abnormality, upstairs, and judging from the smiles upon their return, I believe his critique would concur.

I've gotta run down there, in just a few minutes. Someone's getting a cell phone for being wonderfully 19.

[QUOTE=Njminer1]I have sortied through just about all the clubs in the Zona, but have come to feel the 'homey', relaxed atmosphere in Chicago Club. I've also made quite a few friends among the chicas, and staff, and the policia out front.

I'm fond of being distinctive, and I have no fear, so, I've regalled the masses by wearing a kilt (which drew some great attention, and some good questions; and explained to the plaid wearing chicas, which clan their tartan represented, followed by a long explanation about over check and under check.), a tuxedo on New Year's Eve, and the perinnial favorite, a Stetson. There is an older woman that comes though and sells chips and such, mostly to the girls, I have a true warm spot for. I like the overall quality of the girls, some are true natural beauties. I have seen several girls that could make a lot more doing Sunday newspaper circular ads, than what they are doing.

But I think, by and large, just going about making friends, and having the 'neighborhood' bar feeling, is great.

I usually don't even cross the border going south til after midnight, and if I don't have breakfast with one of the girls at the little restaurant next door, then I'm not coming north til 4 or 5 am. Amd I've had no, hhmm, 'safety' concerns.[/QUOTE]
Yep, CC is definitely a pretty good place, and in my opinion it just doesn't get the recognition it deserves on this board. Most guys seem to prefer AB, and often refer to the women at CC as being "ugly". I know the place is pretty dead during the day, but come 8pm I will take CC over AB any night. It's filled with nice looking women who are generally friendlier than at ABs, and there are enough girls such that there is something for everybody there. It seems to be a bit more relaxed than ABs and has less of the "mill" feeling as well. It can be a little more expensive, but I can usually talk them down to the point where it is comparable with ABs.

Have fun!

Blue Nose

Bluenose, I agree. Adelitas is the McDonalds of the Zona. The only reason why they don;t have a drive thru is because they are in the middle of the block. A real fuck factory and an expensive one at that.

CC is much more laid back and comfortable. A better "bang" for your buck.

Don't I owe you a beer or two?

Country John

[QUOTE=Country John]Bluenose, I agree. Adelitas is the McDonalds of the Zona. The only reason why they don;t have a drive thru is because they are in the middle of the block. A real fuck factory and an expensive one at that.

CC is much more laid back and comfortable. A better "bang" for your buck.

Don't I owe you a beer or two?

Country John[/QUOTE]
No, you don't, but I'll be happy to take you up on your offer anyway! I am travelling right now but I should be back in a few weeks and I hope to hook up with you and Adela then. We've got a lot to talk about, and I would love to see how the business is running! I'll be in touch.

Blue Nose

Greetings all,

Found this site a couple of months ago; only been going to CC and AB since last May. Done about 11 girls from CC and 2 from AB during that time. Find CC much more pleasant and relaxing than AB. Just seems that AB has more of a "work culture" if you know what I mean. Anyways, my favs at Chicago are Claudia (of Mazatlan) and Norma (Puerto Vallarta). Went last Sunday night and had Norma for nearly an hour/real hot sex. Haven't been with Claudia for about two months/she's always busy. Claudia said she has papers and wanted to go home with me one night after we finished; but I wasn't sure if this would be a good idea so I ignored her. Also like the young girl, Maria, whose on vacation until April. Anyways, will make a trip the weekend of March 16th to CC.

Jay

Greeting all,

Relatively new to this site and hobby, and I've been browsing through past postings. I just wanted to add that some of the club girls (CC and AB) do have and contract stds (healthcards or not); not just the "streetwalkers" and/or alley girls. I speak from an experience about 3 months back. But whatever girl chosen (anywhere or anytime), latex or polyurethane condoms should offer greater than 95% protection. Don't use "natural lambskin" condoms as they only protect against pregnancy; std viruses/microorganisms can penetrate them. I learned the hard way. I was used to using lambskin condoms with my ex-girlfriend. While lambskin condoms feel absolutely amazing (like using nothing) and they conduct temperature better than latex; save them for the "clean" girlfriend or wife.

Jay

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Greetings all,

Found this site a couple of months ago; only been going to CC and AB since last May. Done about 11 girls from CC and 2 from AB during that time. Find CC much more pleasant and relaxing than AB. Just seems that AB has more of a "work culture" if you know what I mean. Anyways, my favs at Chicago are Claudia (of Mazatlan) and Norma (Puerto Vallarta). Went last Sunday night and had Norma for nearly an hour/real hot sex. Haven't been with Claudia for about two months/she's always busy. Claudia said she has papers and wanted to go home with me one night after we finished; but I wasn't sure if this would be a good idea so I ignored her. Also like the young girl, Maria, whose on vacation until April. Anyways, will make a trip the weekend of March 16th to CC.

Jay[/QUOTE]

Hello Jay Love. Looks like you discovered the fountain of youth. Yes, CC is more relaxed than AB for lots of reasons but none of them really matter since the bottom line is service. The service (from my own personal experience) is musch better and more predictably so than AB which is a fuck factory.

Is it safe to take them home?

Well, what are you planning on doing with her State-side? She says she has "papers." I have "papers" and all kinds of things. You need to ask yourself the above question for reals. Does this girl want a relationship? Be very very careful. If her papers are no good and she tries to cross in your car, gues what? You go to jail. So stay away from this mess for right now. Get to know her a bit more if you are tempted to take her across. Have a look at her papers then find out what they should look like for real.

If she has papers she doesn't need you to take her across, she can go any time she wants. Is she suggesting that she stay with you State-side?

Anyway, you decide of course. Regarding STDs, you are quite correct. One must always be careful and use a latex condom. Lamb-skin is good for stopping junior but not for the nasties. Good advice.

Country John

Thanks to the board, I bypassed AB. I haven't been stateside for quite some time and agree AB was just a fuck factory back then.

I met two girls in CC Tuesday at 4pm. I sat and talked to Flora for about 15 minutes and she said she was getting off work at 7pm. She is about 5'7" and had a very slight ponch on her belly. She said she was 35, but she certainly didn't look to be over 25-26. Her breasts had a little sag to them, but were a nice mouthful (real too).

She quoted $.5 for 30 min, which would include a shower, massage, etc. I told her up front I wanted anal and she hem-hawed for 5 minutes before relenting. I reiterated I wanted anal and gently touched her butt to reaffirm. She agreed and off we went.

She paid $1 for personal lubricant when we entered the room. We showered and then got playful before the main act. I got between her legs and played with her (no DATY) until her legs were quivering. She replaced my hand for hers and continued playing with herself while I manuevered for a BBBJ.

Time came and I donned the raincoat and started pumping her pussy. After about 10 minutes, I open the lube and applied to my cock and her ass and slide my cock in slowly. She grimaced a little but settled down and continued to frig herself. I pumped her ass for about 5 minutes and blew my load.

We returned to the shower and she kept shaking her head looking at me and smiling. She said to please not tell the other girls she did anal, as they'd think she was loco. I told her OK, but I would be back fuck her ass again. She smiled and nodded OK.

When I was walking back to the bus station, I saw my old anal stand-by Juanita at her normal spot on Constitution. I've been tapping that ass for 5 years now and she gets $.35 for her (for anal) and $5 for the room. She knows me from my last times and was surprised when I winked and just passed her by.

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Greetings all,
Found this site a couple of months ago; only been going to CC and AB since last May. Done about 11 girls from CC and 2 from AB during that time. Find CC much more pleasant and relaxing than AB. Just seems that AB has more of a "work culture" if you know what I mean. Anyways, my favs at Chicago are Claudia (of Mazatlan) and Norma (Puerto Vallarta). Went last Sunday night and had Norma for nearly an hour/real hot sex. Haven't been with Claudia for about two months/she's always busy. Claudia said she has papers and wanted to go home with me one night after we finished; but I wasn't sure if this would be a good idea so I ignored her. Also like the young girl, Maria, whose on vacation until April. Anyways, will make a trip the weekend of March 16th to CC.
Jay[/QUOTE]

Jay,
If you can go down and have your fun and then leave, why would you want to take a girl (even your fav) home with you?
If she wants to spend some time with you, I'm assuming it will be a freebie. Then why not use a local hotel?

As for papers, next time you cross, ask at the border what type of papers a girl must have to enter the US. See if they have an example. Then check your fav's papers for verification. Now, after giving it much thought, if you really do plan to bring her across for a day or so, walk back together. Thats just in case. If something is amiss, you keep going and she can turn back. Let her know this upfront as well. Assuming all goes well and you get her to your place - *Make sure you lock your shit up at the casa. Don't leave ANYTHING out in the open and available or it may grow lkegs and walk away. Now what was my first question???

Donnie

[quote=country john] she says she has "papers." i have "papers" and all kinds of things. [. . .] be very very careful. if her papers are no good and she tries to cross in your car, gues what? you go to jail. [. . .] get to know her a bit more if you are tempted to take her across.

country john[/quote]this is a minor detail, but: no, you won't go to jail. even though alien smuggling is a felony, first time offenders are not being prosecuted. why not? simple: it would aggravate the gridlock in the courts and prisons. that's also why illegal aliens are merely deported on their first offense: the border patrol seizes about 1,000 illegal crossers a day.

what us immigration will do if they catch you with an illegal alien in your vehicle is confirep001e the vehicle (just a 15 year old honda civic, right?) and put you in their database. you'll be on file for the rest of your life as a federal miscreant. on your third offense or so, yes you will get several months of prison and years of probation. i've spoken with guys who fell into each of these two categories.

the smugglers go to san diego and recruit homeless men and other down and outers to be on call. the henchman is given a car, not to own, but to have in constant possession for personal use. there's this one young "monger", who by the way recently did 16 zn girls in one night -- i wish i could claim the credit. anyway, he got caught at the border with an illegal in his "work car". so he has to find a new way to pay for the next 16.

of course, anyone who falls in love with an alien prostitute he doesn't really know personally and yearns to bring her across the border is just thinking with his small head. which we've all done :)

Did you contract an std from either a CC or AB girl?

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Greeting all,

Relatively new to this site and hobby, and I've been browsing through past postings. I just wanted to add that some of the club girls (CC and AB) do have and contract stds (healthcards or not); not just the "streetwalkers" and/or alley girls. I speak from an experience about 3 months back. But whatever girl chosen (anywhere or anytime), latex or polyurethane condoms should offer greater than 95% protection. Don't use "natural lambskin" condoms as they only protect against pregnancy; std viruses/microorganisms can penetrate them. I learned the hard way. I was used to using lambskin condoms with my ex-girlfriend. While lambskin condoms feel absolutely amazing (like using nothing) and they conduct temperature better than latex; save them for the "clean" girlfriend or wife.

Jay[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ethereal X]Did you contract an std from either a CC or AB girl?[/QUOTE]Yes. A few months back (about 2 weeks before new years), I contracted gonnorhea from either a CC or AB girl. The night I went down, I slept with one girl from AB, and two at CC; using lambskin condoms with all three. I don't know which one had it but I started noticing symptoms around new years. And those two places (CC and AB) are the only two I go to (I haven't had any street girls yet), because I'm skeptical of picking up girls off the streets/alley. And I haven't been with any girls in the states since my ex-girlfriend (over 1 year ago). Std's are present and I read a report that HIV & AIDS are also on the rise in TJ(report by a UCSD professor). That shot (in my ass) I received at the doctor's office was very painful; anyways, I'm completely done with lambskin condoms.

Jay

Greeting All,

Cruised down last Sunday night; hoping to avoid the businest of fri/sat nights. Had planned to try out Erica (Sinoloa, 20 yrs old) since my last visit and thats what I did. She sits along the long bar closest to the entrance and as soon as I walked in; she was all smiles. Anyways, I sat down next to her and bought her a drink; we chatted some despite my sparing Spanish. After we agreed on a price, upstairs we headed. While paying for the room, seen Claudia on her way out; her head dropped and she just stood there with this poutful expression on her face as Erica and I walked by. I've been single for a year and hoping that these girls don't do jealous shit. Anyways, once Erica and I get into our room; our clothes come off and she's got real nice soft tits (see cup) with long sexy legs. She seemed a little shy and just stood there gawking at me at first. I felt like a baby on those tits; thought my eyes would roll back in my head. We started off in mish, then I turned her over on her side. We finished in doggy-style; overall she wasn't as passionate as I like/but maybe I'll give her another try at a later date. I'll give her a "7 out of 10"; will cruise down the weekend on March 31st and do atleast 2 girls.

Jay

Greetings,

Sunday (April 1st):

Cruised down to CC last Sunday night solo. Didn't see Norma or Erica. Contemplated doing Claudia despite her apparent "busy-ness". Sat at the long bar toward the ladies room for a while; just checking out the seen. Met a young chica named Venus (20 yrs. , Veracruz). She's only about 5' 0'' with a cute face and lovely dark skin. She's got some nice natural, see-size cups but smal ass. We agreed to go up for $50. After undressing, she gave me a hand-job to get started while I carressed her breasts. We went into cowgirl position, while she leaned forward so I could suck her tits. Lastly, we ended in mish before finishing. We tried a couple of other positions before mish but she forgot to get lubricant from the hotel check-in. Overall, she doesn't seen to take dick that well. I going to try and stay away from the smaller, short young girls.

Tuesday (April 3rd):

Got a call while at work Tuesday from a couple buddies cruising down from L. A. One had never been to the zona; so I decided to meet them at the border and show them around. First went to AB where my buddies got serviced. Then we headed over to CC where I decided to do Claudia (a fav) since I haven't been with her in a few months. Bought Claudia a couple of drinks and after about 10 minutes of chatting, we headed up. While undressing, Claudia kept telling me how good-looking I am and saying "mi amor". Anyways, we got undressed and began kissing each other all over. She gave me a CBJ and we started in mish and continued for a while; then we moved to doggy-style where we finished. Claudia's beauty amazes me everytime I see her/body and face; I haven't see women in Playboy magazine this beautiful. WOW! I'll probably marry a Mexican girl someday. But CC is awesome, I have a good 3 or 4 favorites there now. Will probably head down this sat. or sun. Jay

Haven't seen Maria in a few months. She's the fair-skinned sweetheart from Veracruz (20 yrs. Old) with an adorable face. I know that she's on vacation but was supposed to return this month (April). Maybe she'll be back later in the month. Has anyone seen her lately? Guess, I'll have to be patient.

Jay

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Greeting all,

Relatively new to this site and hobby, and I've been browsing through past postings. I just wanted to add that some of the club girls (CC and AB) do have and contract stds (healthcards or not); not just the "streetwalkers" and/or alley girls. I speak from an experience about 3 months back. But whatever girl chosen (anywhere or anytime), latex or polyurethane condoms should offer greater than 95% protection. Don't use "natural lambskin" condoms as they only protect against pregnancy; std viruses/microorganisms can penetrate them. I learned the hard way. I was used to using lambskin condoms with my ex-girlfriend. While lambskin condoms feel absolutely amazing (like using nothing) and they conduct temperature better than latex; save them for the "clean" girlfriend or wife.

Jay[/QUOTE]Is anyone worried about herpes? Will anyone admit to contracting it in TJ?

[QUOTE=Montt]Is anyone worried about herpes? Will anyone admit to contracting it in TJ?[/QUOTE]Well I haven't contracted herpes yet. I've had a couple of the girls from CC try to kiss me on the mouth before. But I always turn my head before they have a chance to do so. And I've never given any of these girls oral sex. I also avoid alley and street girls even though they're cheaper than club girls. Anyways, I hope that everyone who frequents TJ's zona realizes that such a vice (and all vices) have their associated risks. I acknowledge those risks and try to minimize the likelihood of contracting stds.

Jay

[QUOTE=Montt]Is anyone worried about herpes? Will anyone admit to contracting it in TJ?[/QUOTE]

In case you missed it, this is the Chicago Club Reports section.
Perhaps you should post there - or not. Maybe take it down the street.

All of us know the risks and thats why we use condoms.

Hey fellas,

Headed down Sunday night, arriving around 10: 30p at AB. Seen a fav at AB that used to work at CC; I wish I had taken her up. Left to check out the CC; made multiple eye contact with atleast three previous "acquisitions". I decided to give Erica (Sinaloa) another try, although our first encounter wasn't great. Erica has a real sweet disposition and is very polite. So after chatting for a bit over a drink; we headed upstairs to the hotel. We spent a good ten minutes just making out/petting. Started off hitting it from the back with her laying on her side; she really knows how to fuck back too. I had a hard time relaxing though and blew my load within two minutes; I probably needed another drink. Damn it. But she was real cool about giving me the full 30 minutes and maybe a little more. We massaged each other for the rest of the time. I gave her a small tip, found my wingman and headed north. Had to be at work by 8 a. M. I think I'll start with a street or alley girl next time to get started; just to get my rocks off for one-third the price. And then maybe finish up with one of my proven, favorite club girls at AB or CC.

Jay

Yes Claudia got papers, and are good, she cross to us, but the problem with her she has many friends POLLEROS, she is very nice girl and beautiful. She try not to go with her family, however they come to tijuana from time to time, also I know she was detected in the border at least twice times, she told me that. She and I went to dinner some times y to dance a las pulgas, she like that place.

I will recommend to anybody be careful with any girl from la zona for a ride to US. Any time I want something with her I do it in tijuana, and most of the times in hotel Leyva. Pay for event and good bye, thanks.

Capitan fu

Jay: Just for the record, what calification give to Claudia over any other girl i CC; also its very uncommon from Claudia kiss any body in the mouth, but some times is very appassionate, i do it her several times in one month, and the last times was something very different, she was like gfe, and after sex she gime several minutes chatting and then again has the chance of one more pop, maybe she was on those days, who knows.

capitan fu[QUOTE=Jay Love]Greetings,

Sunday (April 1st):

Cruised down to CC last Sunday night solo. Didn't see Norma or Erica. Contemplated doing Claudia despite her apparent "busy-ness". Sat at the long bar toward the ladies room for a while; just checking out the seen. Met a young chica named Venus (20 yrs. , Veracruz). She's only about 5' 0'' with a cute face and lovely dark skin. She's got some nice natural, see-size cups but smal ass. We agreed to go up for $50. After undressing, she gave me a hand-job to get started while I carressed her breasts. We went into cowgirl position, while she leaned forward so I could suck her tits. Lastly, we ended in mish before finishing. We tried a couple of other positions before mish but she forgot to get lubricant from the hotel check-in. Overall, she doesn't seen to take dick that well. I going to try and stay away from the smaller, short young girls.

Tuesday (April 3rd):

Got a call while at work Tuesday from a couple buddies cruising down from L. A. One had never been to the zona; so I decided to meet them at the border and show them around. First went to AB where my buddies got serviced. Then we headed over to CC where I decided to do Claudia (a fav) since I haven't been with her in a few months. Bought Claudia a couple of drinks and after about 10 minutes of chatting, we headed up. While undressing, Claudia kept telling me how good-looking I am and saying "mi amor". Anyways, we got undressed and began kissing each other all over. She gave me a CBJ and we started in mish and continued for a while; then we moved to doggy-style where we finished. Claudia's beauty amazes me everytime I see her/body and face; I haven't see women in Playboy magazine this beautiful. WOW! I'll probably marry a Mexican girl someday. But CC is awesome, I have a good 3 or 4 favorites there now. Will probably head down this sat. or sun. Jay[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Capitan Fu]Jay: Just for the record, what calification give to Claudia over any other girl i CC; also its very uncommon from Claudia kiss any body in the mouth, but some times is very appassionate, i do it her several times in one month, and the last times was something very different, she was like gfe, and after sex she gime several minutes chatting and then again has the chance of one more pop, maybe she was on those days, who knows.

capitan fu[/QUOTE]Hi Captain Fu,

Personally, I find Claudia attractive in many ways. She has big beautiful, "puppy-dog" brown eyes and a small mouth; not to mention her flawless, silky-smooth skin. And that ass, it's like sir-mix-alot said, "my anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun". The boob-job I could live without but it's nicely done. I just prefer natural tits, no matter how big or small. We also have a lot of sexual chemistry in the bedroom, probably because we find each other so physically attractive. We fuck each other like we're possessed. Lastly, she is the ultimate player; a charismatic business woman who is bold enough to lay her own body on the line to get what she wants. I've observed her often in CC: she is very, very smooth. I bet she makes close to 100-grand per year doing what she does. She's probably the hottest thing in the zona right now. But my budget only gets me down there every 2 to 3 weeks; as my in-flows are not that expendable. Plus I was hitched up with my ex-girlfriend for about 3. 5 years; so I'm used to alot of sex.

I use the hookers as a supplement; to the woman I meet/chase on a daily basis (grocery store, 7-eleven, gym, etc.). A convenient booty-call or two is good to have; they give you the girl-friend experience and intimacy every human being needs. If I were banging these hookers "several times" per month, I'd be flat-broke. But I guess some guys have more expendable cash than others. But anyways, I went to AB and CC this past weekend; I'll post a report in the next couple of days.

Thanks

Jay

Made my way into CC around 11:30p after finishing up with a regular at AB. Bought a beer and just watched the strip show a bit. Saw a couple of regulars but didn't see Claudia. Noticed some new fresh, young faces; that's what I like about this business. The girls get younger and younger but I stay the same. Anyways, decided to grab a table and invited Venus (20 yrs. , veracruz) to sit down. Ordered her a drink and snuggled up for a little chat; we had some choppy conversation in Spanish as her English is very minimal. Headed upstairs, making sure to get lubricant as she is very small and petite but not thin like Norma. Venus has a awesome pair of natural tits though/probably 34C size. You can be sure that her children will not starve. Once upstairs, sucked on those priceless tits for a while. Began hitting it with her on her side and finished in doggy-style. Great moans, I made sure to ask her if she was OK. This was much better than our first encounter. Probably because we had lubricant this time. Highly recommend her if you like small, tight pussy.

Jay

"but not thin like Norma." You mention Norma a lot in your reports but don't post anything about your sessions with her. I have debated about taking her up and a report would help. Thanks

[QUOTE=Marvin]"but not thin like Norma." You mention Norma a lot in your reports but don't post anything about your sessions with her. I have debated about taking her up and a report would help. Thanks[/QUOTE]Hey Marvin,

Well Norma is probably the most passionate girl I've been with in the zona/been with her only twice. I don't know if she is always that way or if she likes me a lot. The first time I talked with her she asked for $70 for a 30-min session; she said that would include a massage. I was able to talk her down to $60, which is the "standard" price. She has two kids/ I think thats why she's tries to charge higher. Anyways, the first time we went upstairs she took me to her personal room in the hotel where she was staying at the time. She began with an awesome massage for about 10 min, from my calves to my neck; which was very relaxing. After the massage, she rode me cowgirl style with unmatched passion, while leaning forward so I could suck her tits. She also kissed me a little around the eye area. Our second position was missionary, where I stroked it slow and thorough; while staying close to her torso. Last position was doggy-style where I made sure her legs were nice and wide. I gave it to her strong and steady for about 10 min where palming her sweet little ass and hips/she moaned like there was no tomorrow. While lacking in curves; the thin, lean girls usually have the "deepest" pussies from my experience. And Norma just confirms that; but she's always real cool, and relaxes me with her massages and friendly way. I haven't seen her the last couple of times that I've been to CC(which were sunday nights). Our second session was similar to the first;she brought the same passion which I love. We finished and spent about 20 min in doggy style until she fell forward on her stomach; and I just keep fucking her. We spent atleast 45min total in the room/both of us were sweating. I highly recommend her: energetic and great service. I usually give her a $10 tip which she earns.

Thanks,

Jay

My last trip I went to CC. I hooked up with a young gal with blond hair and big fake tits.They were nicely done. I bought her a drink, $8 for the small Corona, and she downed it like a frat boy. She was giggly and very freindly. Since I my Spanish is better than most, we had a nice conversation. We agreed on the standard $60 suckie fuckie, no clothes, lots of touching both ways and I didn't want to be rushed.
I bought her another drink and that went down fast too. She was definitely getting buzzed, and she liked it.

Usually once you agree on the terms the gal wants to get going right away. What I did different this time was that I made sure we talked for a bit more. I talked about how I like to be stroked and sucked and fucked. And asked her what she liked. We were sitting together and i rubbed her up and down as we talked about sex. It was a great primer before going upstairs.

To say the least she was hot and the session was great, she moaned so loud the clean up guys gave me the nod as we were leaving. She gave me a deep kiss out the door which turned the bouncer's head.

Next time I'm definitely looking for her again. I wish I could remember her name.
Any help out there?

Cruised down early Sunday night, arriving at vivamex around 8:30p. Had intentions of getting a massage but they were busy and couldn't be serviced until 9p. So maybe next time I'll go down earlier in the evening.

From vivamex, caught a taxi to AB. Sat at the bar and had a couple coronas to relax while watching the strip show. Then headed over to CC and had my third beer; and since I don't drink much, had a pretty good buzz coming on. Camped out at CC for about 2. 5 hours. Ended up doing two prior "acquisitions":

Venus (22yrs. , Veracruz) Venus came over to the small bar where I was sittting, we grabbed a table and chatted over drinks. Venus is always pleasant to be around. Venus and I had a short session (about 20 min), first pop of the night. Only did it in mish.

Corina (21yr? , Sinora). I called her over after her stage dance, bought her a drink. She seemed to be preocupied/probably had a lot of shit on her mind. Anyways, Corina and I went for about 45 min/multiple positions. The sex was great; lots of moans. Corina is very beautiful, has an awesome pair of tits and nice body. She has put on some weight recently, but still looks good. Hopfully she'll be in better spirits next time.

Left CC for stop #2: AB.

Jay

Corina I belive is preggos, thats why the weight gain. Couple other girls have gotten knocked up in there too I think. Petite dancer Nicole I think is one thats preggos too. Wonder if any of the baby's daddys stuck around...

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Corina I belive is preggos, thats why the weight gain. Couple other girls have gotten knocked up in there too I think. Petite dancer Nicole I think is one thats preggos too. Wonder if any of the baby's daddys stuck around...[/QUOTE]Corina being pregnant also crossed my mind. She checked her cell phone a couple of times while we were together; she's probably pregnant from someone she sees outside of CC. Some of the girls have boyfriends outside of CC. Hopefully, that's the case and not an accidental pregnancy from a 30-min session. I've only been with her twice and don't really know her that well. So I didn't ask her why she was in such a lousy mood Sunday night. I guess pregnant helps explain it.

Jay

Hit CC at about 9 on Friday, memorial day weekend.

She came up to me at the bar. Nice looking, not gorgeous, but nice. From Mexico City. Said she gets to San Diego and Vegas sometimes too.

Tall, 5' 8". Bought her a drink, chatted for a bit. Hard to hear anything in CC.

She wanted $1 to go up. Told her I expected her to earn it, turns out she did. Beautiful pussy, cute kinda little titties, nice nips. Mexican girls always have such nice nips. DATY, BBBJ, mish, dog, then had her lay down and came on her tongue. Very nice. Gave her an extra 20 and then was out.

Next, Hong kong.

Damm, $1.20. Cmmon LuLu, where's your barganning skills??

Walked in about 2 a.m; my buddy was done after his first hooker ever at AB. We got beers and watched the strip show; I knew it would only be a matter of time before one of my regulars came over. I didn't see Claudia but seen a couple of other regulars.

Winded up doing Venus(22y, Veracruz): We cuddled over one drink and upstairs we headed; since it was getting late. Started with some petting Did 2 positions: CG and doggy. A decent session, she was very passionate; good moans.

Decided to call it a night(3 girls total); grabbed some tacos outside and showed my budddy the "alley". Seen a lot of attractive street girls that night. Will have to try a few more SG's as their also more cost-effective. Will probably head down in 2 weeks.
Jay

Lulu here's a link for you:

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[QUOTE=Blue Nose]I will take CC over AB any night. It's filled with nice looking women who are generally friendlier than at ABs, and there are enough girls such that there is something for everybody there. It seems to be a bit more relaxed than ABs and has less of the "mill" feeling as well. It can be a little more expensive, but I can usually talk them down to the point where it is comparable with ABs.

[/QUOTE]

Exactly my sentiments Blue Nose. Nice to have some breathing room and for some odd reason I am see more chicas at CC I would take up than AB. All in all I think the ladies here provide better or at least longer service with more of a personal touch.

OK. Out of Mermaids, on to CC. Stop at taco stand on the corner, near CC. I, personally, like this one the best. Huge tacos, great al Pastor, great asada. Wolfed down a couple and in I go. I have always had great luck at CC. Never any hurry-ups, never any pay-up-fronts, never any bullshit. But I make it a point to avoid the obvious floozys running around in see-through pants, bikinis, huge fake b00bs, etc.

It's approaching 12:00 and the place is hopping. Every seat and every booth was occupied. But, still plenty of available talent. I decided to make a couple of laps and see what might turn up. Began the first lap by walking in front of the left-hand bar. At the corner nearest the alcove, a chica caught my eye. I made note and kept walking. Saw a couple of nice ones lurking along the back wall, but not up to the standards of the first lady. Completed my first lap, young thing still at the corner of the bar. Decided on one more lap. Nothing else looked promising, so finished 2nd lap and stopped in front of the first chica.

Bingo!!

Approached, instant smiles, immediate cuddles, etc., etc. Name is Jacqueline de Veracruz. Rather short, probably about 5' 2". Large, pretty eyes, full lips. Shoulder length hair, dressed fairly conservatively, spoke very little English. No problema.

So, started our chit-chat. bought a few drinks. When did lady drinks go to $9.00?? The last ones I remember were $6.00, with the girls getting half. Anyway, she likes tequila shots. I have another beer. This makes around 6 in about 4 hours, which is a bit over my limit. Thank goodness for Cialis!! :-) She claims to have been working there for a couple of months (right!) and at a maquiladora befor that. One kid in Veracruz. She likes to dance, so we danced a bit at our bar stools. She had this cute way of standing in front of me with her back to me, wrapping my arms around her and asking for really firm hugs. She also has a rather cute way of looking up and sideways at you. I'm sure she's practiced this in the mirror a lot, but it's still kinda cute.

After about 45 minutes it came time for the negociations. I inquired about an hour. She responded with $120, $60 for half and hour. I maintained that I should get a discount for longer time and offered $80. She countered with $100. We settled on $90. :-)

In the room, it's 110% GFE. We collapsed on the bed, clothed and giggling. Snuggled for a bit, got started. She has nice natural Bs with lucious nips that got large and very firm with a little oral persuasion. Didn't kiss much until I asked in Spanish. Then, look out. Interesing mix of kissing, tongue and gentle lip biting. Fun. Played with the twins for quite a while, more probing, DATY (couldn't help it! Moans were authentic, as was the major wet spot.), more DFK. BBBJ or CBJ, my option. Miscommunication resulted in CBJ, no biggie. Interesting technique, forced it as far down her throat as it would go until she gagged, then up for a breath of air, then back at it! Interesting, if nothing else. We were having so much fun we both lost track of time. This one is definitely NOT a clock watcher. Finished up with mish, my choice.

After finishing and collapsing on the bed, she starts a pretty good back and shoulder massage. Of course, right then the time nazis start pounding on the door. Crap! We both stagger into the shower, rinse, get dressed. Nazis start pounding more. Slip her the $90, plus $10 propina for excellent service.

"Tienes hambre?" sez I.

"Si, poquito"

So, off to Al Capones for a bite. Normally, I sit across from my companion, but she insists I sit next to her. Then she proceeds to relax and cuddle, off and on, through the meal. Then we sit and relax afterwards. Unfortunately, it's around 2:30 now, and it's time for me to push off. Here's where I wish I'd have arranged for a hotel. But now I'm short of $$.

All in all, another successful encounter at Chicago Club. No attitude, no hassles. I'd rate her an 8.5 on looks, a 10 in attitude and a 10 in service. What's not to like?

Left, took taxi back to la linea. Cops were hassling a group of tourists by the stairs. One had a foreign accent and was protesting, very loudly, that he'd already paid the cop $10. They were all very drunk. Man, getting sh*tfaced in ANY foreign country is rarely a good idea, and antagonizing the cops while drunk is even worse. Zipped through customs and home by 5:00!

Now my biggest problem is forcing myself to stop thinking about her!! :-)

PP

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[QUOTE=Phordphan]OK. Now my biggest problem is forcing myself to stop thinking about her!! :-)

PP

[/QUOTE]

Been there, done that.. Great report!

[QUOTE=Phordphan] Name is Jacqueline de Veracruz. Rather short, probably about 5' 2".[/QUOTE]

Phordphan, I've been with her several times and have some info tried to send a PM (private mail)to you but you are not set up apparently. If you want to exchange info drop me an Email.

[email]Ninguno_Especial@hotmail.com[/email]

Stopped by CC after leaving AB. It was sparse and generally lacking energy. I didn't seen any of my favorites: Claudia (Mazatlan), Norma (PV), or Venus (Veracruz); very strange. There wasn't any strip show going, but I did talk to 3 or 4 girls. But decided to head over to the alley for a second easy piece. Oh well, I'll have to go back another day.

Jay

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Phordphan, I've been with her several times and have some info tried to send a PM (private mail)to you but you are not set up apparently. If you want to exchange info drop me an Email.

[email]Ninguno_Especial@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]Sure, NE. I sent you an e-mail just now.

PP

Hi,

About Claudia, for the moment she is on vacation with some moreno guy, she will be back at the end of june or july first days. She will back walking funny. Sorry Jay, but she love money so much.

Brandy

This girl work noons shifts, she enjoy so much be in bed, did you guys have any experience with her?

[QUOTE=Capitan Fu]Hi,

About Claudia, for the moment she is on vacation with some moreno guy, she will be back at the end of june or july first days. She will back walking funny. Sorry Jay, but she love money so much.

Brandy[/QUOTE]Hey Captain Fu,

Thanks for the info on Claudia. I'm glad someone keeps more tabs on these girls than I do. And no need for the apology. Just remember, Claudia wanted to go home with me many months ago; I'm the one she can't have. Except when she gets me at CC. And whoevers giving her the high hard one on vacation, more power to him. He still can't give it to her like I do: guranteed. So I didn't mean to make you jealous with my prior posts Cap.

Besides Cap, I also realize that Claudia or any other girl at CC or AB isn't an investment. She's a hooker and a damn good one. But when she's not available, I have others at CC and certainly more at AB. No worries. Thanks.

Jay

[QUOTE=Capitan Fu]This girl work noons shifts, she enjoy so much be in bed, did you guys have any experience with her?[/QUOTE]

Don't know her. What does she look like? I rarely go to CC that early but you've sparked my interest.

Arrived about 10p at AB; which is where I spent most of the night. But landed at CC about midnight. My current regular, Venus, was tied up sitting with customers. I don't get why some guys want to chew up some much time sitting with the girls. Anyways, decided on Claudia (Mexico City, 27y); this girl is stacked and all natural. I told her that her children will not starve. She laughed and said that I won't starve either. We were both cracking up. LOL. After one drink we did the deed: 4 positions. I wore that ass out. Great ending and she wanted a massage after; I told her that she should be paying me. Of course she got the massage but I needed one too. Left CC to finish up with an alley girl.

Jay

Phordphan,

The chicas drink prices at Chicago Club changed on the 1st of January.

See the insidious trail of affected products and services by rising gas prices, lol!

[QUOTE=Capitan Fu]Hi,

About Claudia, for the moment she is on vacation with some moreno guy, she will be back at the end of june or july first days. She will back walking funny. Sorry Jay, but she love money so much.

Brandy[/QUOTE]Ah, Captain, there is the rub, or so it would seem. As for myself, I would not consider any trade of material goods, for the friendships I have made in Tijuana, and especially CC. The good Captain very well knows me, at least by sight (6', 175lbs, long blonde ponytail). I've been considering a different stategem for some personal management issues, which may take me to phoenix for awhile, where I own a 4 yr. Old house, that's been vacant for a year of tenants. I have to property upgrade thoughts, that will remain just that, as long as I'm 350 miles away.

But, I ain't going nowhere until I hold Joselin in my arms, just one more time.

Spent most of my time in AB, but would always do a walk through Chicago before sealing the deal. Usually did not see anything to my likes except on Sat PM. Saw a black haired girl named Leah, from Cancun (1 week) just as you walk in on your left. She has fake tits w/long nipples, braces, and a medium butt. When asked if she does everything, she stated "I will do anything for you". When we got up to the room, she told me to "enjoy her pussy". Not a bad new girl.

Stopped by briefly sunday night around 1 a.m. for one beer. Didn't see any of my favorites; I got off to a late start sunday night. Will come by much earlier next time. But during the time I was there, met and talked to a girl named Celeste. She speaks great English and no Spanish accent/said she was born in Chula Vista and works there just sunday nights. She told me that she would let me fuck her for free if I didn't come. She's kind of chunky and I wasn't that attracted to her though, so I passed. But great enthusiasm.

Jay

New chica at CC name of Claudia. About as pretty as they cum in my opinion. Said she has been there only a week or 2. Quoted $70. with lot's of restrictions but she is a must see...

[QUOTE=Jay Love]...She told me that she would let me fuck her for free if I didn't come...[/QUOTE]
What an odd request. Kind of like saying, "I'll let you play in my pool if you promise not to get wet".

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]New chica at CC name of Claudia. About as pretty as they cum in my opinion. Said she has been there only a week or 2. Quoted $70. with lot's of restrictions but she is a must see...[/QUOTE]There is one Named claudia la guapa, she come back after 6 weeks on vacations, maybe it`s same girl, she come back to work wed 11, if is she black air, tits enhanced and pretty face? If yes it's same Claudia, with malverde saint on the neck.

C.F

Claudia return to work after 6 weeks vacations, she still pretty as ever, I made it a test Wed noon.

Happy hunting

C.fu

[QUOTE=Capitan Fu]There is one Named claudia la guapa, she come back after 6 weeks on vacations, maybe it`s same girl, she come back to work wed 11, if is she black air, tits enhanced and pretty face? If yes it's same Claudia, with malverde saint on the neck.

C.F[/QUOTE]

I had not seen her before last Saturday. She is very flaca and young looking. Was standing up front by the entrance in the alcove. Some how I think we are talking about 2 different Claudias as I've been going to CC for years and had not spotted this one before.

Made the mistake of trying to hit La Zona on an early Sunday evening and found the area crawling with crowds. AB and Hong Kong were packed and definately a "seller's market" for the ladies.

Decided to stop by Chicago for the first time in many trips and found what I was looking for - a situation where I could pick and choose and have some leverage (less mongers = more service and better bargining).

Scanned the scene and hooked up with Dorotea - a 25 year old not necessarily your "trophy" but a very cute girl with a very contagious personality. Barginning started at $60 and wound up (once again due to the "buyer's market") at $40 + $12 for the room for an hour of pleasure (massage to me, massage to her, dfk + foreplay, long cbj and cg/rcg to completion). Scale of 1-10 ... a solid 8.

Biggest pain in the ass was the border crossing at 830 pm - hopped in a cab but couldn't even make it to Ave Revolucion before hopping out and walking to La Lina - only to fine the LONGEST line I have ever faced - took almost 1 1/2 hours to get to the US side.

Didn't realize sundays would be a lot busier. I guess I should avoid tj on Sundays. Thanks for that tip.

DFK? The chicas will really do that? I never even contemplated that. Is that during sex, before or after? Aren't you concerned with catching something that way?

btw, what is [b]cg/rcg[/b]?

[QUOTE=OCTraveler] Barginning started at $60 and wound up (once again due to the "buyer's market") at $40 + $12 for the room for an hour of pleasure [/QUOTE]

Well it's one thing to get a bar chica to go for less than a street girl ($40 for 1 hr = when the average street girl would demand $80 plus) but to get the room for an hour @ $12 when the rate is that per half hour segment is monumental feat!

You truly are the man!!!

[QUOTE=Efjayel] DFK? The chicas will really do that? I never even contemplated that. Is that during sex, before or after? Aren't you concerned with catching something that way?

btw, what is [b]cg/rcg[/b]?[/QUOTE]

- Before (don't want the taste of latex LOL) - Concern? We all choose our levels of hygene/safety concern in TJ (sucking on a nipple, drinking from dirty beer bottles, consuming ice made from the local water, getting in a taxi, partaking oysters from a street vendor, etc etc etc) so I guess I place the level of this concern somewhere less than some and higher than others

-You'll find these in Jackson's glossary - cg= cowgirl (her on top facing you) and rcg= reverse cowgirl (her on top facing away from you)

Speaking of the taste of Latex, one chica didn't want me to use my trojan condom. She complained that she didn't like the taste of it so she used one of her own condoms. One other chica didn't tell me that but she non-chalantly wiped the lubricant while chatting with me from my trojan condom before doing the CBJ then poured some of her own lubricant from a bottle before fucking me.

Got a call at work Wednesday/a couple buddies from L. A. Wanted to make a zona trip. Decided what the hell, made plans to meet them at the border about 8:30p. Figured I would be "tour guide", since it was their first and second times in TJ. Landed at CC after an hour at AB. Chatted and had drinks with a few girls. Each of us had one girl at CC; I went with a favorite, Venus. The other girls, I had never seen before (one's name was Alicia, brunette, spoke some English); but my buddies were both very pleased with their girls and service. Got out of dodge around 11p, shortly after finishing. Had job interview thurday morning. Might be living a little higher off the hog soon.

Jay

That's an easy one... it's not the latex, it's the brand.
Trojan condoms have lubricant plus a spermicide (the name skips my mind) that has an awful taste.
Sico, Durex brands only have the lubricant, some offer flavors and that's what the girls favor.



[QUOTE=Efjayel]Speaking of the taste of Latex, one chica didn't want me to use my trojan condom. She complained that she didn't like the taste of it so she used one of her own condoms. One other chica didn't tell me that but she non-chalantly wiped the lubricant while chatting with me from my trojan condom before doing the CBJ then poured some of her own lubricant from a bottle before fucking me.[/QUOTE]

well, i’m sitting here sipping some of my favorite lagavulin single malt, popa chubby’s on winamp and i’m planning to go see the padres tomorrow, with a side trip to tj afterwards. what’s not to like, right?

the only problem is that my amiga had to move away, and she ain’t comin’ back. and that kinda sux.

i met maite a couple of years ago in chicago club. i was sitting at the bar, near the end where the changing room is, watching the tv. she was sitting next to me and i was trying to concentrate on the baseball game. she wasn’t bad looking, but not really my type and a bit older than the rest. probably about 35 – 36 at the time. figure about a 6.5 on the pp scale. but she made a few insightful comments about the game, and began chatting about sports. turns out she knew a bit about beisbol, a fair amount about american football and a lot about soccer. we chatted about this and that, had a few drinks and an interesting time. (this was back when customer/lady drinks were $3 and $6 respectively, so it’s been a while!). we finally headed upstairs for the standard $60/30 min. arrangement. the action was pretty good overall, and certainly qualified for a future encore.

so, for the next several visits, we’d hook up at cc. we’d have a few drinks in a booth, she’d help me with my spanish, i’d help her with her english. we would eventually go arriba. from the 2nd time on, she would just tell me not to worry about the length of time, and to just pay her what i could. that’s cool with me, but i’m no cheap charlie, either. on average our 90 minute sessions would cost about $80.

one time, by chance, i had a free weekend. i call, we decide to meet at hotel nelson. i get a room ($50 on the weekends, i recall). this place really has seen better days, but it’s a great location. the rooms are really dumpy.

anyway, we get fish tacos at this great all-local stand 5 or 6 blocks away, spend some time at the sports book, then all night drinking at the nelson’s bar. this is a great little watering hole. mostly locals, the drinks are reasonably priced, pretty good jukebox. we proceed to get hammered. i’m pretty drunk, but m’s absolutely sh*tfaced by about 2:00am. we stagger upstairs, hit the hay. i’m ready for some action, she’s strangely lethargic. next thing you know, i hear a strange sound. i sit up and she’s hurling all over the floor next to the bed! holy sh*t! i fetch the wastebasket, but it’s a bit too late. oh, well.

raging hangover the next day. hangover-tinged morning nookie isn’t the greatest, but it’s better than nothing! spend the rest of the morning in the nelson bar drinking cervezas michiladas, which she swore was the only cure for a hangover. you gotta love these authentic experiences. i left for home in the afternoon, she opted not to go to work that evening. i think she got $150 - $200 at the end, but memory is really fuzzy.

this sort of became our mo for the next couple of years. we’d meet, get a room and go have a good time. (i think we’ve been in most of the hotels on revu now. the paris is a dump, the cesar has been remodeled and is rather nice, in a motel 6 kind of way, the espana is probably my farorite. but they’re all pretty noisy until about 3:00 – 4:00 in the am). consequently, i had no reason to go to cc for a long time.

to go off on a tangent for a second, earlier this year i called her up. she’s now working days. (i thought it was still at cc but i found out that it was at las chavelas) she says she really preferred days over nights. the crowd was a lot different (many married men looking for a little on the side), a lot calmer and less nerve wracking. that’s the official line, and it may be true. i know that she is well past her sell-by date, and suspect the night shift wasn’t paying what it used to. she’s now about 38, but looks a little older. i guess working in a bar will do that to you. but you certainly don’t want to get into a tequila drinking contest with her! :-)

fast forward to july. i got a friday off, headed down, got the room at espana, just like always. after lunch at the fish taco stand we’re back in the room. i like sitting in a quiet room and talking. i can concentrate on the spanish without too much interruption, and if the person speaks a little slowly i can pick up a lot. it really helps, so we would do that frequently. she tells me that her mother is really ill and she may have to go back to chiapas and take care of her. if that happens, she isn’t coming back.

earlier this month i received a call from her. she left a message asking me to call her back right away. uh-oh! i do, and she would like to see me before the weekend. i make arrangements, get a padres ticket, and head down on friday, two weeks ago.

we go to her favorite place, la especial restaurant. (btw, the food’s really good). over the birria de res she tells me that her mom has gotten a lot worse and the she needs to leave after the weekend. bummer. she’s sad. me too.

“what are you thinking?”
“soy triste.”
“por que?”
“en tijuana, hay muchas damas, pero no hay muchas amigas. soy triste para perder una amiga”

i had no intention of staying that night. i hate long good-byes. i figured i just go see the pads and head home. i thought i’d told her that before we went to eat, but i guess it didn’t register. i slipped her $100 at the table (it was all i could scrape together on short notice, but it would pay for about half of her plane ticket). she seemed a bit confused, but counted it and accepted it. (one thing a little off-putting. in sea i almost never see the girls stop and count the money. in tj they all seem to. but i digress). we finish and go to the street. she wants to know if i want to get a room at the espana. i say no, i gotta go soon.

“then why did you give me $100?”
“it’s my gift to you. a good-bye present. it will help with your ticket.”

she seems surprised and a bit pleased. but she really doesn’t want me to leave yet. i have a bit of time so we go into club animale and have a couple of beers. i finally confess that i have to leave to go to a baseball game. she wonders why i just didn’t tell her. she says that’s ok, she’s the same way with soccer. if the game’s on, don’t bother her. i finally promise that i’ll come back after the game, if it isn’t too late. baseball not having any fixed time frame is difficult to explain to people used to soccer.

get to la linea around 5:00, about 45 minutes in line, trolley to the stadium. watch the padres pull it out in extra innings, back to la linea on the trolley. call and we meet at the corner near cc. turns out that she has a room near there, temporarily.

we go hand-in-hand up constitucion to la revu. she knows i don’t have a lot of dough left, so she picks the place with $1 coronas. after 3 or 4 i feel pretty good, but it’s getting really late and i gotta hit the road. she’s surprised, and not too happy, that i don’t intend to sleep with her. i ‘fess up that i don’t have the $$ left for a room. she says that we’ll go to her room, if i don’t mind no hot water. ok, fine.

mano en mano, back down constitucion. she has a room just past molino rojo, in a really cheesy block of rooms. single room, dinky bathroom, no hot water, just enough room for a single bed and a tv. really grotty. $60 a week. she had been sharing a small apartment with two other girls in a somewhat nicer part of town, but they had moved away. she suspected things were going to get really bad in chiapas, so she took this dump for a few weeks. (i thought this place was bad for one person, but she told me that two girls who worked at cc shared the same sized room next door. and i thought i’d seen some grim dwellings in cambodia.)

well we got undressed, turn out the lights, opened the door for a bit of breeze and went at it for the last time. she always enjoyed daty, so, as a treat, i indulged her. she always liked cg, i prefer mish, so we split the duties. after resting and cooling down, it’s almost 2:30. i have a 2 hour drive ahead of me. she’d really like me to stay the night with her, but i just have too much crap to do on saturday. so it’s a cold shower, dress and she escorts me back to the corner opposite cc. she says the alley leading from her place to the street is dangerous and that she needed to go with me. maybe she’s right. quick kiss on the corner, grab a cab and it’s off to the border. no cops at the drop-off, whiz through security and it’s back to la. get home about 4:45. ugh.

so, now it’s back again to tj, but it won’t be the same. it may be good, it may be bad, but it won’t be the same. time will tell whether it’s better or worse. i can still hear her cautioning me in her slightly fractured english.

“when you come to tijuana, be careful. stay away from women who only want money, money, money. too many ladies in chicago take too much drugs. always want money, more money. too crazy.”

well, with advice like that, what can you say? i will say this. i’ve met a lot of girls in this business, and the ones who get my respect are the ones who take their familial responsibilities seriously. from rangoon to jaco, the ones who get my repeat business use the money they earn to feed and educate their children, care for their aged parents, or whatever. they don’t sit on their ass and collect welfare, they don’t support some leech boyfriend and they money doesn’t go straight up their noses. you gotta respect someone like that, and ms. maite certainly fits the bill.

adios, maite. vaya con dios.

pp

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went to see the pads saturday. frickin' traffic! the construction on the 5 just before the 5/805 split, even when they're not working, causes this huge slowdown for several miles. arrgh! 2 hour drive turns into a 3+ hour drive. park at the border near the trolley, trolley to petco, get to my seat an hour late.

after the game, crossed la linea and grabbed a yellow taxi to the border (cuz i'm too lazy to go find a libre). driver chatted me up, told me how bad the police are getting, stopping everybody walking, mexican or american, doesn't matter. rico, pobre, doesn't matter. he also mentioned something about the cops "leave us alone," which i took to mean the yellow cab drivers. since the taxi mafia and jorge hank are as*hole buddies, do the fuzz not hassle the yellow cabs? did i misunderstand? was he full of guano? anybody?

got to cc just before 11:00. place was swamped. like 6 - 8:1, guys to girls. not so good. so i made a lap and walked out. thought i'd poke my head into las chavelas, just for fun. looked around, not nearly as busy, but couldn't see anything that really attracted me. a fairly chubby chica kept smiling at me and patting the chair next to her. i kept smiling back and kept my distance.

ok, so back to cc. took another lap, looking for jackalyn, or another familiar face. there were quite a few 9.5s and 10s strutting around. tall, fair skin, super-model looks (and probably attitude to match). but ginormous chichis plasticas just aren't my cup of tea. i felt somebody grab me from behind. i turned and looked down on a little spinner. she had almost-shoulder-length hair bleached in the sort of streaky way, with some sort of perm to make it look wavy, and the gel treatment so it looks sort of "wet" all the time. you know what i mean. tiny natural a cups, rather a "moon" face with a very toothy smile. probably a 5.5 on the scale. i didn't feel like hanging around for another hour or two looking, and i wasn't planning on staying too late, so i figured we'd see where this one went.

so, she's sara from vera cruz. she says she'd 19 with no kids. hmm. and, that she's only been in tj for 3 days!! (she also had a bridge she wanted to sell me, but i didn't have enough money on me. damn, i could've really used that bridge, too). very limited english. overall a rather sweet attitude. after a couple of drinks we negociate a tln for $180, but it's apparently a bit too early in her shift. seems you can only be "gone" for so long before a salida becomes due and payable. i hadn't booked a room, and wasn't going to do that and pay a salida, so we abandoned that idea and decided on 2 hours for $100.

up in the room we get to know each other better. the chicas really dig it when you talk about their familia, ninos, etc., and i think it usually leads to a better overall experience. but ymmv. she finally 'fesses up to having a kid, a little girl 5 years old. (she had the stretch marks to prove it). she showed me the pix. apparently she had her when she was 14!!! wtf?? i asked her why. she said that she wasn't thinking. what an understatement.

cut to the chase - she only does cbj and cfs, which was fine. her cbj was very, very good. amazing what you can learn in just 3 days. no kissing (well, a little). play with the twins a bit, but she would cup them in her hands, which was mildly annoying. seemed to prefer mish (which i like anyway). p*ssy still tight. needed a pillow under her butt since she was so tiny. pretty good post-coital oil massage. overall, this was probably a soft 7 on the pp scale. i think she may be worth another try in the future. downside is that she wouldn't shower afterwards.

one weird thing, while we're laying on the bed, chatting and getting to know each other, she would quietly masturbate herself. never seen that before...

usually i just have some tacos and head back to la linea afterwards, but tonight i thought i'd hang around for a bit. bought sara another drink (agua mineral for the both of us) and hung out. she needed to get back go work. no problem. i watched her, off and on, for the remainder of my time there. poor girl tried hard, but couldn't snag another customer.

so, i'm propping up the bar near the end. up comes lily. rather tall, thin morena, about an 8 on a good day. very funny in a really hyper sort of way. i suspect some sort of stimulant. bought her a drink just because she was so amusing. she "guaranteed" me a good time, and told me she needed her "protein." :-) it was sort of like chatting with carmen miranda on speed.

next, up wanders helena de michocan. she's a very presentable 40-year old. reasonable body for the age, naturals in a push-up bra. nice hair which, on reflection, was probably a wig, lives in playa tijuana. she likes me, she says, because the other men there are too young and remind her of her son! :-) she's actually very touchable and speaks pretty good english. she was also very drunk! plenty of groping, some dancing bar-side, fun stuff, all for the price of a couple of drinks. she did say one fun thing: "call me on a sunday. maybe we can watch the sun go down from my bed." what's not to like? ;-)

i'm running out of dough, it's now almost 4:00 and i gotta go. i make my way to the door, look to my right, and guess who's sitting at the bar? the famous jackalyn! crap! just my luck. out of time and out of money. well, i have to sit down with her for a bit. i buy her a drink just for old times' sake. she launches into her patented gfe mode. lots of hugs, shoulder, neck, leg massage, etc., etc. it's like you're the only guy in the world, or something like that. man, if she could bottle that, she'd make bill gates look like a homeless wino.

at 4:15 i really have to go, and her shift is over, too. out the door, into a taxi, off to la linea. lots more people that i expected for 4:30am, but zipped right through. no cops at the bridge, just lots of young kids. in my car and pulling out of the parking lot by 4:35. home at 6:15.

pp

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[quote=phordphan]went to see the pads saturday. frickin' traffic! the construction on the 5 just before the 5/805 split, even when they're not working, causes this huge slowdown for several miles. arrgh! 2 hour drive turns into a 3+ hour drive. park at the border near the trolley, trolley to petco, get to my seat an hour late.

after the game, crossed la linea and grabbed a yellow taxi to the border (cuz i'm too lazy to go find a libre). driver chatted me up, told me how bad the police are getting, stopping everybody walking, mexican or american, doesn't matter. rico, pobre, doesn't matter. he also mentioned something about the cops "leave us alone," which i took to mean the yellow cab drivers. since the taxi mafia and jorge hank are as*hole buddies, do the fuzz not hassle the yellow cabs? did i misunderstand? was he full of guano? anybody?

got to cc just before 11:00. place was swamped. like 6 - 8:1, guys to girls. not so good. so i made a lap and walked out. thought i'd poke my head into las chavelas, just for fun. looked around, not nearly as busy, but couldn't see anything that really attracted me. a fairly chubby chica kept smiling at me and patting the chair next to her. i kept smiling back and kept my distance.

ok, so back to cc. took another lap, looking for jackalyn, or another familiar face. there were quite a few 9.5s and 10s strutting around. tall, fair skin, super-model looks (and probably attitude to match). but ginormous chichis plasticas just aren't my cup of tea. i felt somebody grab me from behind. i turned and looked down on a little spinner. she had almost-shoulder-length hair bleached in the sort of streaky way, with some sort of perm to make it look wavy, and the gel treatment so it looks sort of "wet" all the time. you know what i mean. tiny natural a cups, rather a "moon" face with a very toothy smile. probably a 5.5 on the scale. i didn't feel like hanging around for another hour or two looking, and i wasn't planning on staying too late, so i figured we'd see where this one went.

so, she's sara from vera cruz. she says she'd 19 with no kids. hmm. and, that she's only been in tj for 3 days!! (she also had a bridge she wanted to sell me, but i didn't have enough money on me. damn, i could've really used that bridge, too). very limited english. overall a rather sweet attitude. after a couple of drinks we negociate a tln for $180, but it's apparently a bit too early in her shift. seems you can only be "gone" for so long before a salida becomes due and payable. i hadn't booked a room, and wasn't going to do that and pay a salida, so we abandoned that idea and decided on 2 hours for $100.

up in the room we get to know each other better. the chicas really dig it when you talk about their familia, ninos, etc., and i think it usually leads to a better overall experience. but ymmv. she finally 'fesses up to having a kid, a little girl 5 years old. (she had the stretch marks to prove it). she showed me the pix. apparently she had her when she was 14!!! wtf?? i asked her why. she said that she wasn't thinking. what an understatement.

cut to the chase - she only does cbj and cfs, which was fine. her cbj was very, very good. amazing what you can learn in just 3 days. no kissing (well, a little). play with the twins a bit, but she would cup them in her hands, which was mildly annoying. seemed to prefer mish (which i like anyway). p*ssy still tight. needed a pillow under her butt since she was so tiny. pretty good post-coital oil massage. overall, this was probably a soft 7 on the pp scale. i think she may be worth another try in the future. downside is that she wouldn't shower afterwards.

one weird thing, while we're laying on the bed, chatting and getting to know each other, she would quietly masturbate herself. never seen that before...

usually i just have some tacos and head back to la linea afterwards, but tonight i thought i'd hang around for a bit. bought sara another drink (agua mineral for the both of us) and hung out. she needed to get back go work. no problem. i watched her, off and on, for the remainder of my time there. poor girl tried hard, but couldn't snag another customer.

so, i'm propping up the bar near the end. up comes lily. rather tall, thin morena, about an 8 on a good day. very funny in a really hyper sort of way. i suspect some sort of stimulant. bought her a drink just because she was so amusing. she "guaranteed" me a good time, and told me she needed her "protein." :-) it was sort of like chatting with carmen miranda on speed.

next, up wanders helena de michocan. she's a very presentable 40-year old. reasonable body for the age, naturals in a push-up bra. nice hair which, on reflection, was probably a wig, lives in playa tijuana. she likes me, she says, because the other men there are too young and remind her of her son! :-) she's actually very touchable and speaks pretty good english. she was also very drunk! plenty of groping, some dancing bar-side, fun stuff, all for the price of a couple of drinks. she did say one fun thing: "call me on a sunday. maybe we can watch the sun go down from my bed." what's not to like? ;-)

i'm running out of dough, it's now almost 4:00 and i gotta go. i make my way to the door, look to my right, and guess who's sitting at the bar? the famous jackalyn! crap! just my luck. out of time and out of money. well, i have to sit down with her for a bit. i buy her a drink just for old times' sake. she launches into her patented gfe mode. lots of hugs, shoulder, neck, leg massage, etc., etc. it's like you're the only guy in the world, or something like that. man, if she could bottle that, she'd make bill gates look like a homeless wino.

at 4:15 i really have to go, and her shift is over, too. out the door, into a taxi, off to la linea. lots more people that i expected for 4:30am, but zipped right through. no cops at the bridge, just lots of young kids. in my car and pulling out of the parking lot by 4:35. home at 6:15.

pp

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very good report and good sense of humor!

[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Very good report and good sense of humor![/QUOTE]

Here, here! I enjoyed both very much too!

To Phordphan or anyone else with intel on these hotels:


[QUOTE=Phordphan]...
Hotel Nelson. I get a room ($50 on the weekends, I recall). This place really has seen better days, but it’s a great location. The rooms are really dumpy.

...the Cesar has been remodeled and is rather nice,in a Motel 6 kind of way
...the Espana is probably my farorite. But they’re all pretty noisy until about...

PP
[/QUOTE]


How would you rate the Cesar and Espana hotels?
Whats the cost to stay one night during the week?
How far are they from CC/AB?

Thanks in advance,
Donnie

[QUOTE=Donnie D]To Phordphan or anyone else with intel on these hotels:
How would you rate the Cesar and Espana hotels?
Whats the cost to stay one night during the week?
How far are they from CC/AB? [/QUOTE]
I will let Phordphan comment on how they rate as I've not stayed there but... I believe the Hacienda de Santiago is a good bet for a nice room, decent price and a bit over a block from CC/AB.

It would be a lot easier to get a street girl to go there with you and maybe easier to get a bar girl if you wanted an all nighter.

[QUOTE=Donnie D]To Phordphan or anyone else with intel on these hotels:

How would you rate the Cesar and Espana hotels?

Whats the cost to stay one night during the week?

How far are they from CC/AB?

Thanks in advance,

Donnie[/QUOTE]Hi,

See my reply in the general TJ section.

Never been to the Hacienda de Santiago. Can't comment but will check it out next time.

I checked out the Villa Zaragoza once. It seems a nice place if you have your car, but it's way the hell up behind the Jai Alai fronton, and quite a hike to the zona.

PP

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[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]... I believe the Hacienda de Santiago is a good bet for a nice room, decent price and a bit over a block from CC/AB.

It would be a lot easier to get a street girl to go there with you and maybe easier to get a bar girl if you wanted an all nighter.[/QUOTE]

I like the way you think. Thanks for the room info.
I will check that place out on my next trip (as well as 1 - 2 others) and let everyone know about them.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I will let Phordphan comment on how they rate as I've not stayed there but... I believe the Hacienda de Santiago is a good bet for a nice room, decent price and a bit over a block from CC/AB.

It would be a lot easier to get a street girl to go there with you and maybe easier to get a bar girl if you wanted an all nighter.[/QUOTE]I have always used the rooms/hotels the girls work out of. Has anyone gotten a hotel near La Zona and taken the girls there, and not the hotel next to the bar? How does that work? I like to stay overnight because it's a long drive for me. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I have always used the rooms/hotels the girls work out of. Has anyone gotten a hotel near La Zona and taken the girls there, and not the hotel next to the bar? How does that work? I like to stay overnight because it's a long drive for me. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

From the experiences of my friends and mine we know its according to which bar and hotel you go to. The girls working infront a bar generally have to use their hotel. Generally if they get caught during work hours going to another hotel, they can get in trouble. The same problem applies to club girls, they have to use the hotel of the club. My friends usually stays at that hotel above Adelitas so since alot of the clubs around there use the same hotel, they get away with not paying the visitors fee. Its a good hotel, but always crowded on the weekend because they got air condition so good luck getting a room there. Even better when the girl is staying in the hotel also, she can pass by your room later or get the visitors fee waived. I usually stay at Leyva in the new wing. They don't charge a visitors fee so I have gotten girls in with no problem. I have gotten Chicago girls to come up to my room, but they mostly want to come after work or when the club is closing. You may have to try her first at the bar hotel or if she is comfortable and trust you, she will pass by before or after work.

[QUOTE=Bootytapper]From the experiences of my friends and mine we know its according to which bar and hotel you go to. The girls working infront a bar generally have to use their hotel. Generally if they get caught during work hours going to another hotel, they can get in trouble. The same problem applies to club girls, they have to use the hotel of the club. My friends usually stays at that hotel above Adelitas so since alot of the clubs around there use the same hotel, they get away with not paying the visitors fee. Its a good hotel, but always crowded on the weekend because they got air condition so good luck getting a room there. Even better when the girl is staying in the hotel also, she can pass by your room later or get the visitors fee waived. I usually stay at Leyva in the new wing. They don't charge a visitors fee so I have gotten girls in with no problem. I have gotten Chicago girls to come up to my room, but they mostly want to come after work or when the club is closing. You may have to try her first at the bar hotel or if she is comfortable and trust you, she will pass by before or after work.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I'll report back after my next trip. Late September.

How much is the visitors fee?

I visited the Chicago Club with my buddy on a Thursday night. It was not crowded and the girls were easily viewed. I will say that there is NO comparison with the girls in Adelitas. I mean there may be one or two diamonds but if it is your first time in TJ, don't go here first...lol. My buddy and I had a few beers and watched a few strip routines. Two older ladies sat with us and insisted we go upstairs for some action but the interest just wasn't there for us. They were fun to talk with and before we left they wanted to go up for practically nothing. Somehow "practically nothing" still didn't do it though. There were a few that caught my eye and I will go back next time just to satisfy the itch if they are still there.

[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]I visited the Chicago Club with my buddy on a Thursday night. It was not crowded and the girls were easily viewed. I will say that there is NO comparison with the girls in Adelitas. I mean there may be one or two diamonds but if it is your first time in TJ, don't go here first.[/QUOTE]

Well that depends. There are fewer bolt on tits and padded asses than Adelita Bar but I always see some very thin and sexy chicas there. The plus for CC is that the chicas will not watch the clock, rush you or use the bait & switch. (promise you the moon in the bar then turn into a dead fish upstairs).

Trick is if you want kisses, ask if they will before going up. If you want GFE ask them if they will make love to you like a novio, etc.

It is a monger market at CC. Much easier to pick the top tier ones without having to wait, then climb over tables to grab her when she returns. LOL

It is a puta market at AB. Good luck on getting a good relaxed session on a Friday or Sat. night.

Take your pick.

So, wandered into CC, about 10:00, after leaving Botana. Made 3 laps of the joint, looking around, looking for Ms. J, but not finding her. So, I sit at the "little" bar and order up a cerveza. Start looking around, notice a cute little spinner standing in the corner, looking at me. She smiles, I smile, she nods, then she shakes her head. I nod and motion her over. You know the drill.

April is a thin, tiny (maybe 5'2", probably a bit shorter) thing, rather long black hair with red highlights at the ends, a diamond stud in her nose and lower left lip. Also a piercing above the left eyebrow which didn't have anything in it at the time, but she delighted in showing me by poking an earring part through it. =:-0 She's really cute, she's sweet and affectionate at the bar, I pop for a couple of ficha drinks. After some conversation, the subject of arriba comes up. Just before negotiations get started, I go take a leak and count money.

On the way back from the can, guess who I run into? Ms. J, looking sharp. Man, my timing sux. If I was still 18, I could do them both, but NOOOOOO. So, I make my excuses and go back to Ms. A.

I shouldn't have let Ms. N have that last ficha drink in Botana. Now I'm a bit short. April wants $60 for 1/2 hour. I tell her I don't like 1/2 hour, that it's too rushed and I like 1 hour. She says OK, $120. I tell her I'm sorry but I don't have $120. She wants to know what's so bad about 1/2 hour. I'm firm in my commitment to one hour sessions. She finally asks how much I can pay. I tell her $80, plus $24 for the room, leaving me just enough for taxi money and a couple of tacos. She relents and says OK. So, up we go.

IN the room things are inconsistent. She has a nice little bod, tiny naturals with nice nips, smooth p*ssy, but a little more in the stretch mark department than one would normaly like. She asks for $ up front. I say no, pago cuando terminamos. She insists and wants to know why, she always gets it up front. I say i NEVER pay up front and get ready to call it quits. I relent somewhat and show her the money, then place it on the counter where she can see it. (I've used this "compromise" in other places, like Costa Rica, where they have too many f*cking idiot gringos screwing it up for the rest of us). She says too many people do it, then say they don't have any money. What kind of a**hole would rip off a hooker? Especially in a foreign country.

We lay down together, she likes to cuddle. Great. But, not a lot's happening. I figure she's not into it, or she's gonna go starfish. I start making plans to bail. I ask if she just doesn't like me (I mean, no problem. Just say so, no harm no foul) But she says no, that's not it. She's really tired. SHe only had 2 hours sleep in the last 24, and the couple of beers knocked her out a bit.

Anyway, after a bit of get-to-know-you, it's time to get down to biz. Try playing with the twins. It's OK to kiss 'em, but no sucking. No DATY or playing with the p*ssy, it's too sensitive. Sh*t. This may still be going nowhere fast. So, I just relax and let her do the driving. Now it gets better. Her CBJ is really good, and things get more interesting. Then she starts her Asian CowGirl. Cool, one of my favs, but don't see it all that often outside SEA. And she's really good at this,too. Then she gets a bit tired, says "you on top" and flops down onto her back. No problema. She's pretty tight, just like a 20yo oughta be. She starts playing with my nips, but she's pretty quiet. But, it's overall a pretty good session. I'd give her a 6.5 on the PP scale. The act itself was really good, but the no-fly zones are a turn-off.

After I finish, I collapse in a heap next to her. She cuddles up and we both manage to fall asleep. Next thing I know, the time nazis are knocking on the door. Sh*t. Stagger up, quckie cleanup, dress, more knocks, out the door and into the street.

Two more tacos, and it's off to la linea. The driver doesn't speak English. I ask him so speak more slowly, as I can understand most of what he's saying if he does. So, he speaks slower for 2 seconds, then it's full-auto all the way. But he kept telling me about the cops robbing tourists at the drop off point, then talking about cameras. When we got there, no fuzz in sight, so he said no problemas, then started pointing to two or three different spots and saying camera, camera, camers. Does anybody know anything about this?

It's just after midnight, and nobody in line. Zip right up, and some clown has a suitcase, a sleeping bag, looks like a vagrant and is getting the third degree from the agent. Sh*t, just my luck. Everybody else's line is flying. Everybody in my line finally moved to another. What a joke. 90min drive back to LA.

PP

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[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]I visited the Chicago Club with my buddy on a Thursday night. It was not crowded and the girls were easily viewed. I will say that there is NO comparison with the girls in Adelitas. I mean there may be one or two diamonds but if it is your first time in TJ, don't go here first...lol. My buddy and I had a few beers and watched a few strip routines. Two older ladies sat with us and insisted we go upstairs for some action but the interest just wasn't there for us. They were fun to talk with and before we left they wanted to go up for practically nothing. Somehow "practically nothing" still didn't do it though. There were a few that caught my eye and I will go back next time just to satisfy the itch if they are still there.[/QUOTE]

Don't kid yourself. CC is probably a better bet for the new monger or someone new to TJ. In general, the service is better and more personable. Lately, I've been doing more girls at AB. Yes, the AB girls are a cut above the rest/AB sells the sizzle and glitz a bit better as well. But when you're at AB, you kind of feel like you're in a nightclub in LA/it's just more pretensious/with girls throwing around attitude like people throwing around baseballs. If someone new goes to AB, they're probably going to think "hey, this is the way it is". But a good experience can be had at CC even on fri/sat night. The girls at CC are more genuine/or atleast play the role. Right? Some of the ladies at AB are cool too but it's too packed on fri/sat nights to expect a sit down. CC does have a few beautiful women(9-10 range) who stand out like sore thumbs: Claudia, Maria, and Corina. And I'm aways more relaxed at CC than AB.
Jay

Things have obviously changed. It was no more than a year ago when I first started reading up on TJ and hearing major feuds about which club was better, AB or CC. And it looked like CC was winning because it had higher class girls than AB. Prettier even. The trophy girls.

It had better shows, and better service. Price was a bit higher as well but it was said that its worth the price. That it had become the top club at TJ. Heel to heel with AB or actually surpassing it. I no longer hear this. All I hear now is that its dead or slow.

On my first trip to TJ I put CC in my itinerary due to all the praise and hype it was receiving. When I got there, there was literally no one in there. I mean no one. I didn't even see a bartender and no music was playing. I'm surprised I didn't hear crickets. This was like 10:30 am on a Saturday. I walked out. But to be fair, this was on a holiday and when I went into AB it was kind of dead also, there was like only 4 girls in there. But that's better than going into an empty club.

When I returned to CC later that night there was finally some people there. But it was like Adelitas on a slow morning. And i saw only one girl who could have passed as a trophy girl. One girl I talked to at AB said she used to work at CC but got kicked out for deciding to take too many sick days. She didn't regret it though, since CC had gone down anyways.

So what happened to this club? How did it go from almost being number 1 to sucking? Obviously Adelitas once again reigns but what do you guys consider to now be the #2 club at tj? Hong Kong/Miami?

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Maria is back at CC after 8 months away. She has a 3-month old baby back in veracruz. I saw her this past saturday night at CC/she's only been back for 2 weeks. She still beautiful with her adorable baby face.
Jay[/QUOTE]

Is Maria the girl with shoulder length black hair, real cute, drinks like a sailor and loves to get drunk? Sheesh, I remember almost fucking her in a booth one night at CC. Is it the same girl? She had a kid? sheesh.

Country John

[QUOTE=Country John]Is Maria the girl with shoulder length black hair, real cute, drinks like a sailor and loves to get drunk? Sheesh, I remember almost fucking her in a booth one night at CC. Is it the same girl? She had a kid? sheesh.

Country John[/QUOTE]

Maria does have long black hair; I think it runs down past her shoulders. She's very fair-skinned and about 5'6''. She like to wear white tops and sweaters; and also white jeans. Not very curvy but very pretty face. Come on CJ, all this Maria talk; I'm trying to hold off for 2 weeks. Writing this description tempts me to drive down tonight(or tomorrow) and ravage her. LOL.

I wonder, does anyone know the actual postal address for the Leyva Hotel?

Thanks in advance.

Stopped by CC last night in between SG sessions. Talked with a couple regulars. I asked Venus about a TLN and she quoted me $500. I looked at her like she was wearing a tail. Has anyone had a TLN with a good-looking CC or AB girl. If so, how much were you quoted and/or paid. I don't think I would pay more than $200 for an all-nighter.
Jay

[QUOTE=Njminer1]I wonder, does anyone know the actual postal address for the Leyva Hotel?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

HOTEL LEYVA
ADDRESS: Av Constitución No. 412, Zona Centro
Tijuana, B.C.
TELEPHONE: 883956 y 883968
FAX: 859774

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Stopped by CC last night in between SG sessions. Talked with a couple regulars. I asked Venus about a TLN and she quoted me $500. I looked at her like she was wearing a tail. Has anyone had a TLN with a good-looking CC or AB girl. If so, how much were you quoted and/or paid. I don't think I would pay more than $200 for an all-nighter.

Jay[/QUOTE]I've been quoted everything from $100 to $400, depending on the looks of the chica and the day of the week.

One hottie at CC insisted on $300+ on a Saturday. She said that a Tuesday would be a lot less. Another quoted the same, with $100 and dinner being the Tuesday/Wednesday price. My longer-term amiga, who was no longer a hottie, would accept pretty much anything, but she required more on the weekends.

I've had lots of the lookers tell me they earned $300+ each day of the weekend. I think that may be true, occasionally, but, at least at CC, I don't see how you could do it consistently. Not with the normal girl:guy ratio. AB, on the other hand...

I suspect the $500 quote was a blow-off. :-( But $200 - $300 is definitely possible.

PP

Jaylove,

Thanks so much for posting the info.

Back in June, I had a TLN with a chiqa freom CC. I think she was happy just to change scenery for an evening. I had a room at Puebla Amigo, I think that was another incentive, as well as, she's been interested in me for awhile, but I have always ended up with someone else.

It was a Tuesday or Wednesday, and it was only $100. She was enthusiastic, so, good for me.

Thanks again.

Njminer1

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Stopped by CC last night in between SG sessions. Talked with a couple regulars. I asked Venus about a TLN and she quoted me $500. I looked at her like she was wearing a tail. Has anyone had a TLN with a good-looking CC or AB girl. If so, how much were you quoted and/or paid. I don't think I would pay more than $200 for an all-nighter.

Jay[/QUOTE]Lmao! Hahaha! Jay Love I owe you a drink for that one! Funniest Shit I've read. Thanks for making my day! Wearing a tail LOL!

[QUOTE=Njminer1]Jaylove,

Thanks so much for posting the info.

Back in June, I had a TLN with a chiqa freom CC.
It was a Tuesday or Wednesday, and it was only $100.
[/QUOTE]

So was there a bar fine? I've heard it can be $100 or more at CC unless you wait till her shift ends.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]So was there a bar fine? I've heard it can be $100 or more at CC unless you wait till her shift ends.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking of taking a girl after her shift ends; a lot of the girls at CC leave by 2 or so/some earlier. So I would have her for only 5 to 6 hours. By not pulling her off her shift, I can avoid paying a bar fine. Right? But I think I'll try it with one of my regular SGs first/whoever gives me the best deal.

[QUOTE=Docholiday101]Lmao! Hahaha! Jay Love I owe you a drink for that one! Funniest Shit I've read. Thanks for making my day! Wearing a tail LOL![/QUOTE]

Thanks Doc. I guess I can be witty at times. I try to not let the work day (and these hookers) get me down too much. LOL. But these girls do seem to have an inflated sense of wealth about Americans. I guess she thinks money grows on trees in the U.S.; trees I can't find! LOL.

[QUOTE=Jay Love]Stopped by CC last night in between SG sessions. Talked with a couple regulars. I asked Venus about a TLN and she quoted me $500. I looked at her like she was wearing a tail. Has anyone had a TLN with a good-looking CC or AB girl. If so, how much were you quoted and/or paid. I don't think I would pay more than $200 for an all-nighter.

Jay[/QUOTE]I was quoted by Norma at CC the $500 also for a TLN. She said that is cheap and that she has other guys who give her a $1000 and I believe her. Until guys with unlimited money to blow on these girls stops, the girls will want more and more money and get it.

[QUOTE=Marvin]I was quoted by Norma at CC the $500 also for a TLN. She said that is cheap and that she has other guys who give her a $1000 and I believe her. Until guys with unlimited money to blow on these girls stops, the girls will want more and more money and get it.[/QUOTE]


I think the key to getting a reaonable TLN is finding a girl that likes you and wants to be friends. The only way to achieve this is through repeat sessions with a girl; so a rapport can be forged. I've also been quoted $500 by a SG(Ana by the Eduardo); I told her that she was crazy. LOL. I wouldn't even give Jenifer Love Hewitt $500 for a TLN. Another angle would be to settle for a girl whose stock isn't so high; maybe a girl in the alley or a girl at tropical bar or else where. But I'm not one to settle. I have to be highly attractive to a girl I select for a TLN; since I want to be humping her all night long. I'm sure I can get one soon.

[QUOTE=Jay Love]I think the key to getting a reaonable TLN is finding a girl that likes you and wants to be friends. [/QUOTE]This is absolutely the case. Otherwise, it's whatever the market will bear.

And one would seriously need one's head examined if one were willing to part with $1K for any of these chicas. Some guys have waaaay more money than brains.

PP

Saturday night about 10:00. Leticia is about 30, 5’3, small tetas, long brown/black curly hair sits at bar on left, jeans with black shirt. Bought her a chica tequila – that’s right, no friggin’ pina colada for you… if I’m buying it, then it’s gonna have more than 1/16 oz of alcohol and NO DAMN UMBRELLA. Started at $60, quickly came down to $50. DFK in room, small c-section scar. Cute/playful. In session, she earned $60. Remember – they are in competition for your money; if she has attitude or there’s not a connection, move on. I may repeat, and she’s recommended.

I've never encountered the 'bar fine'. When I took my TLN, it was about 2:30, or so. No problems, we hopped into a cab right outside the front door. It may have been the hour, but, I agree that to save money, it's a case of repeat business, and attraction on the chiqua's part. Shit, I've nearly wangled two gals into paying me, LOL! , but some invisible 'picture logic' stops them at the point of cusp, LOL!

I was in TJ on the 2-3/10/07, got there after midnite, my favorite time, found Josselyn (thank you Lord), and spent a wonderful 2 1/2 hrs. At the Leyva. All the room attendants were gone when we finished, I left them a tip in the 'sheet room', and since she has a room there, she asked me to wait, and we then went down to the Tropica to meet her friend Demi (a dancer there, and quite a fox, as well), and stayed there til they threw us out, about 5am or so.

Why, oh why, did I ever leave San Diego? , LOL! Oh well, it makes each return, all the sweeter!

Incidently, Josselyn was cracking up, as all the waiters sort of formed a 'reception line', to come by and shake hands, and catch up a bit. Everyone there is used to seeing me weekly, or more.

I think, even in mongering, there is a standard to be carried, that will ultimatley serve one in excellent stead, no matter where the search takes them. Spoken like a true surfer, LOL! , roflmao!

Nadia is an attractive flaca with dark hair sometimes pulled back in various sexy styles. I didn't buy her a drink or take her up but did enjoy the view of her nalgas while she parked herself in front where I was sipping a vodka & tonic the other night.

This girl has a great ass and looks like a CK commercial from the belt to thigh. Worth a look see if you like flaca chicas with nice ass.

Anyone had the pleasure of checking it out arriba?

[QUOTE=Jay Love]I think the key to getting a reaonable TLN is finding a girl that likes you and wants to be friends. The only way to achieve this is through repeat sessions with a girl; so a rapport can be forged. I've also been quoted $500 by a SG(Ana by the Eduardo); I told her that she was crazy. LOL. I wouldn't even give Jenifer Love Hewitt $500 for a TLN. Another angle would be to settle for a girl whose stock isn't so high; maybe a girl in the alley or a girl at tropical bar or else where. But I'm not one to settle. I have to be highly attractive to a girl I select for a TLN; since I want to be humping her all night long. I'm sure I can get one soon.[/QUOTE]

$500 is what they'll quote you. I roared at my fav one day when she gave me that number. It's a combination of things. They are basing it on a "best case scenerio" day at work (which sometimes happens, depending on the girl). They figure if they go with you for the night, they'll miss out on a lot of sessions so they're going to make you pay.

$500. Sheesh. Ask her next time if she has "la panocha de oro?"

Country John

I stopped by CC last friday(11/02) in between SG and AB sessions. Talked with Marisol(Guadalajara) and bought her a drink; plus feeled her up a bit. Has anyone been with her; how's her service?
Jay

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I just read your post from September 2005. Very good post I would like to add. Maria is still there looking muy bonita. Bought her a drink a couple of months ago. Saw her last Saturday. I've not taken her up only because of having another agenda but she is on the possible short list if the agenda gets screwed up.[/QUOTE]

Is that Maria the cuite girley with shoulder length back hair, nice bod etc? Jeez, I just described at least 1/2 the girls in TJ.....

Loves to drink? Gets hammered all the time... great in the room, outrageous in the club... very sexy, all that.....

I love her. She's nuts in the sack. I took her one night, had a great session then the next night she sits next to me at the bar - totally changed her fucking appearance - and said: "You gonna buy me a drink?" I didn;t recognize her so I said "No." and then she starts in on me...."Fucking gringo, loves to fuck but won't buy a god damn drink, doesn't remember me, doesn't fucking care....." All this in a rather loud voice. After a few seconds, I recognized her and felt bad because I filled her head full of shit the night before, telling her how pretty she was etc, and now here I am and don't even recognize her.

By then she was almost at full fucking volume so I grabbed her and hugged her. I told her how sorry I was for not recognizing her tonight because she looks so much more sexy etc blah blah blah. So she calms down and I buy her a drink. Stoopid shit me takes DeAngelea instead of Maria up for a session. DeAngelea was good, but Maria...well..she's nuts in the sack.

Country John

[QUOTE=Country John]Is that Maria the cuite girley with shoulder length back hair, nice bod etc?

Loves to drink? Gets hammered all the time... great in the room, outrageous in the club... very sexy, all that.....

Country John[/QUOTE]

The Maria I know is very quiet, not outrageous. I've not observed her drinking much either. Maybe she toned it down over the years but I would bet you know another Maria.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]The Maria I know is very quiet, not outrageous. I've not observed her drinking much either. Maybe she toned it down over the years but I would bet you know another Maria.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Nawww, the Maria I know would not have toned town at all. I hope she got some guy to take care of her. She was pretty and seemed like a nice girl.

Experiences at the windy city club –

My first foray to this club happened a few weeks ago on a Tuesday just after 2 o’clock. Everyone should visit the zona during daylight hours at least once, there is an old west feel to it. I am from down-town San Diego, so I usually hop the trolley to the border.

During this time of day the trolley was hauntingly empty. As its doors cranked shut, pages of some random Spanish newspaper swirled around my feet. I grabbed a seat on the west side so I could watch the pale blue ocean slide by as the trolley rocked and lurched its way southward. The sea had a forlorn color to it, like tears of goodbye from a college sweet heart. I thought about the fact that the reason the trolley was so empty was that most people were dutifully working their day jobs, while I on the other hand was dutifully thinking of carnal debauchery.

My mind was in a haze, transfixed by the passing landscape, and the next thing I knew I was at the end of the line. The border was a breeze but I felt that I stood out a bit as the only gringo in sight. I’m sure the locals just shook their head and said to themselves, ‘I know where he’s going’. I wish the Taxi Libre’s were easier to find just outside the border, I ended up with the yellow variety and told him ‘Chicago’. He didn’t try to up-sell me to any of his commission generating spots, I think he was just enjoying the warm breeze as we weaved through the midday throngs.

This part of the city has a certain character to it. The word that comes to mind is gritty, not in the bad sense but gritty nonetheless. There is a sense of urgency about it with a twist of laissez-faire, I can’t quite describe it but it leaves a familiar taste in my mouth, like an old memory partially faded with time.

My cabbie pulled up to some corner, and I had to re-cage my brain. Having never visited the zona in the daylight everything looked only vaguely familiar, but sure enough there was the familiar Chicago club sign. I relieved myself of the usual five spot and shut the door, leaving the waning protests for lack of a tip behind me. I had places to go and pussy to see.

I was feeling no pain as I entered the hallway that leads into the beating heart of what is, and sustains Chicago club. You see I had a small flask of my favorite eastern block spirit, not enough to go crazy just enough to tip the scale. I was the only monger in sight (just a quick aside, I have noticed that in the U.S. those of our ilk tend to refer to themselves as ‘Hobbyists’ but when we cross a border, be it into TJ or SEA, we become Mongers. I haven’t decided which I like better).

I made a quick lap to the men’s room, it was definitely the B team’s shift, but there were some great looking girls as well. I sat down at a booth against the wall and ordered a Dos Equis. No sooner had I done that when a nice looking Asian girl sauntered over. She was older for sure but had a nice tight body, she sat down and I got her a drink. I inquired and she told me that she was Filipina, her English was good and she seemed like a friendly laid back type. I am a yellow fever kinda guy from way back so I am always hard pressed to turn down a hot Asian girl anywhere I find them (One Wing Low and I need to do some chatting about China). From what I remember the negotiations were standard, $60 plus $11 for the room, no clothes, no rush, bj, and multiple positions. I had a good vibe about her so I wasn’t worried at all, which added to the enjoyment.

We got to the room, our jovial banter continuing all the while. She stripped down, never asking for payment up front, which is always a nice touch. She had rail-straight, jet-black hair about to the middle of her back. I absolutely love dark hair on a girl, and hers was as black as a raven’s eye, stunning. I tell ya guys, that hair set against her flawless, tanned skin was enough to put the Captain at attention. Her tit’s were ok as far as I remember, but I’m an ass man anyway, and she passed muster in that department, great little tush.

I lay back and she begins with some lfk and works her way down for my first uncovered bj in the zona, nice suprise. It was nice, slow, and steady like an old blues tune from back in the day. She had great suction to, at one point I thought my balls were going to come up through my dick. Great eye contact throughout, as she moved down giving the boys their due. I’m just relaxing, soaking all this in and suddenly I have a tongue in my ass. Now I’ve had this done before but never in the zona, and I tell ya nothing wakes you up like a tongue in the ass, better than coffee, boom, right out of bed.

Now she creeps up for some cowgirl, and does it like only Asian girls can, always one of my favorite positions. Now she is really getting into this, and I’m thinking wow this feels great and snug, I take a peak and low and behold I’m in her ass. She hopped on for anal and it wasn’t even negotiated beforehand. I’m not a big fan of anal but she was fantastic. She jumped off and said she wanted me to fuck her pussy, and with a quick change of the cover I was in it to win it. We went through the litany of positions, ending with doggie, her long hair streaming down her body, her head thrown back howling at the moon. I told her I wanted her to jerk me off onto her face and she snatched the cover off and proceeded with gusto. Now it had been a few days and I knew this was going to be quite the load. She took it like a champ with a squeal of surprise, I love to see their reactions.

As we cleaned up she told me that her shift was just about over and we talked about her family. As I usually do, I asked her what her TLN rate was and she quoted $200. Seeing as we seemed to click, she gave me her cell number and told me the days she worked. I walked her downstairs and gave her a hug goodbye, she going back inside the club and me making a beeline for the nearest taco stand. The shadows were longer now as the sun had started its slow decent, and I chuckled to myself as I watched a tumbleweed bounce defiantly down the street like some truculent kid.

EPILOGUE – After my taco, I headed back to Chicago for what was to be my first threesome (in the zona, that is). But more on that later seeing as I’ve blabbed on too long as it is.

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[QUOTE=Country John]Is that Maria the cuite girley with shoulder length back hair, nice bod etc? Jeez, I just described at least 1/2 the girls in TJ.....

Loves to drink? Gets hammered all the time... great in the room, outrageous in the club... very sexy, all that.....

I love her. She's nuts in the sack. I took her one night, had a great session then the next night she sits next to me at the bar - totally changed her fucking appearance - and said: "You gonna buy me a drink?" I didn;t recognize her so I said "No." and then she starts in on me...."Fucking gringo, loves to fuck but won't buy a god damn drink, doesn't remember me, doesn't fucking care....." All this in a rather loud voice. After a few seconds, I recognized her and felt bad because I filled her head full of shit the night before, telling her how pretty she was etc, and now here I am and don't even recognize her.[/QUOTE]

Definitely not the same girl. The current Maria at CC is very reserved/shy and speaks minimal(close to zero) English/I've never heard her run off sentences in English. Also this Maria is not wild in the room/she always assumes missionary after a slow CBJ. I had to ask her twice during a session for doggy before. But our sessions are always slow and unrushed/she is a good lay though.
Jay

interesting story by dcooper. i've never seen an asian girl there and i think the rooms cost $12. the experience sounds almost too good to be true.

[QUOTE=Conejito]interesting story by dcooper. i've never seen an asian girl there and i think the rooms cost $12. the experience sounds almost too good to be true.[/QUOTE]

I've never seen any Filipino women at CC either. The "expository prose" by dcooper does sound almost too good to be true. But great enthusiasm. LOL.

[QUOTE=Conejito]interesting story by dcooper. i've never seen an asian girl there and i think the rooms cost $12. the experience sounds almost too good to be true.[/QUOTE]

I saw an Asian girl there when I was there in October. She was a younger Chinese spinner type, not an "older for sure" filipina. She also was working at night, after midnight. I was with a favorita of the Mexican variety at the time, after her dancing, the Asian girl went back to guy she was sitting with before her dance. When I was back in town last weekend I swung by Chicago and did not see her or any Asian chicas there.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]I saw an Asian girl there when I was there in October. She was a younger Chinese spinner type, not an "older for sure" filipina. She also was working at night, after midnight. I was with a favorita of the Mexican variety at the time, after her dancing, the Asian girl went back to guy she was sitting with before her dance. When I was back in town last weekend I swung by Chicago and did not see her or any Asian chicas there.[/QUOTE]The young asian looking girl is Estrella. She is one hot looking Mexican chica but I heard her services are lacking.

Sheesh. ‘To good to be true’? Not really, that’s how it happened, except there was a typo on the room cost which Conejito so studiously spotted, it was $12 not $11, I guess my finger hovered over the ‘1’ key a tad too long. Also, I can’t remember her name, it began with a T, like Tina or something like that, but she did give it to me with her number on a piece of paper but my stupid ass let that go through the wash in my pants, oh well.

I was just trying to take my time writing for you guys, as I have enjoyed reading many of the posts here. I guess it was taken the wrong way and I will try to keep things short and sweet or quick and dirty from now on.

Maybe the bad experience I had won’t sound ‘to good to be true’ or ‘expository’. You guys are harder to please than my ex-wife;.)

Now when I say ‘bad experience’ I put the blame on my shoulders, because I am still a newbie to the zona scene and let myself get hustled a little.

I went back inside after a little re-charge time, got a beer and sat down. The B team was still out and in short order I was approached by a cutie named Marisol or something similar, I really have to start remembering their names better. She was maybe in her mid to late 20’s, a little on the thick side, with long wavy died blonde hair. Her English was not very good, but with the little Spanish I know we made out ok. She was very fun and flirtatious, but she kept pushing for her friend to come over to join us so we could have a threesome. Her friend looked just like her, long blonde and thick.

Given my newbieness and the fact that I was on the drunk side, I eventually relented to her pestering and her friend came over and we all went upstairs, without any negotiations! Wow that was dumb.

It ended up $120 for the both, $24 for the room. Long story short, they never did anything to each other, I got to bang them both, got cbj from both, but half way through, while I was doing Maria, her friend (I forget her name) gets up and says that she has to go. She was quick about it and before I could make much of a fuss she was gone. Marisol made like she was surprised but I did not buy it.

Anyway, after that my mood was ruined and there was no way I could cum. This surprisingly, disappointed Marisol. She realized it was because of what had happened and she was very sorry and offered to see me again at half price later if I wanted. But I never took her up on it.

Lessons learned for myself. Lighten up on the drinking, and always negotiate everything beforehand.

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I was in TJ 2 weeks ago and made the rounds. Stopped by Adelitas, HK and Chicago. I'm just an occasional visitor as I'm on the East Coast and only make it out to SD from time to time. This was my fourth visit to TJ and although I'd read about the alley many times (here), it was the first time I actually tried to find it. Really interesting experience for a guy who's never taken that walk. But I digress, I should make another report in the appropriate section.

The Saturday night I was in Chicago club, there were some really good looking girls, but at first none really jumped out at me. The last time I'd been there, (about a year ago) I took a girl and was somewhat disappointed with the "further negotiations" once in the room and the performance. I had pretty much decided to head back to the alley when I saw Estrella.

For me, she is stunning. Around 20 years old, 5' 4" or so and about 100 lbs with a really pretty face, great ass and nice tits, especially for a girl her size. I'd guess "big" B's. I was standing in the back of the club along the wall not far from the girls changing room. I happened to look back that way when she walk out. I grabbed her (gently). We chatted a minute, she told me she was busy now (in Spanish), but she'd be back to see me soon. She proceeded to go to the stage and dance. Her dancing was incredibly sexy and I was sold. Unfortunately, I guess a guy at one of the tables had already "reserved" her. After her 2 songs (where she got a lot of tips), she joined some guy for a drink. Kept looking over at me while she drank. The after 10 minutes, they headed upstairs. I was really bummed. Went out for a walk back to the alley.

An hour or so later I'm back at Chicago and run into Estrella again. After some small talk I ask her if she wants to go to the room. She says $70. I try to negotiate to $60, but's it's clear that she's way popular and she's not coming down. So I agree to $70.

In the room, she wants to get paid first. I say after (in Spanish), but she insists as she "doesn't know me". I pay, she undresses. Start with cbj, not bad. She is a bit restrictive, doesn't want her face or hair to be touched. Sometimes as my hands are exploring her beautiful body, she takes my hand and kind of takes it off.

We do mish and cowgirl. Then I pull her to the edge of the bed, put her ass on a pillow and stand at the side of the bed, banging her with her legs on my shoulders. Finish doggie.

I enjoyed doing Estrella, but there definitely was no great service there. In the club she was very friendly, smiling, chatting a bit. But in the room she was reserved. Definitely not gfe. Another note: she was a bit dry and didn't have any lube.

Her body is totally the type I really like, so I was ok with the experience overall. I've never gotten gfe in TJ (but almost always do in Asia), so my expectations were based on my past TJ experience.

Estrella has a few tats, including one on her lower stomach "SYD". I wondered about it and asked her if that was her bf, but she didn't want to explain.

Thanks to all the regular posters, whose very helpful information makes my occasional TJ romps easier and more fun.

CS

No great service cause you paid first. Next time they demand $$ first, point to the door and say vamanos!! Their tune will change. If it doesn't, run down and get a replacement.

[QUOTE=Toad Tamer]No great service cause you paid first. Next time they demand $$ first, point to the door and say vamanos!! Their tune will change. If it doesn't, run down and get a replacement.[/QUOTE]agreed.

and $70?! no thanks for raising the price for the rest of us! 50-60 is max. and no hair touching, lol...

[QUOTE=Toad Tamer]No great service cause you paid first. Next time they demand $$ first, point to the door and say vamanos!! Their tune will change. If it doesn't, run down and get a replacement.[/QUOTE]
Something else I've always wondered about: here in the States you can get an average escort for about $140 or so, give or take. If these TJ providers keep trying to raise the floor on the going rate (and if we allow them to do so) then the costs of going south of the Border and shagging a AB or CC girl may one day approach the point where a Stateside escort may not cost that much more (or even be equivalent in total value). The price of services rendered wouldn't even have to be equal to the States for the whole thing to be a total wash because one has to add in the cost of even getting down there in the first place, especially with gas nearing $4.00/gallon. Hey, I understand that the girls have to eat, too; but there's got to be some price point they would be foolhardy to exceed (otherwise they'll run the risk of chasing away business with their greed). I wonder exactly where that price point is?

[QUOTE]In the States you can get an average escort for about $140. If TJ providers keep trying to raise the going rate the costs of shagging a AB or CC girl may one day approach the point where a stateside escort may not cost that much more or even be equivalent in total value.[/QUOTE]I respectfully differ.

Most U.S. escorts that I'd pay to fuck are in the $300 range. Moreover, I think it's unwise to give your home address to the shady characters who run escort services. So unless you're traveling on business you have to pay for a hotel room as well. I think the claim that an "average" escort session is only $140 is exaggerated to make a point and I can't concede the premise.

Moving down the commercial sex food chain, full service at an Asian spa can be had in most big cities for $160-300, depending on how hot the girl is and how hard you bargain. And if you can find a Brazilian incall place you might be able to do a half hour session for $150-175.

At that price point, I bow out of the domestic pay-for-play market. But I realize that lots of guys seek out even cheaper providers. For them there are toothless whales on Craigslist and cracked out street girls. No judgments. Just not my cup of tea.

You can walk into the Adelita Bar and bang just about any of the trophy fuck girls in Hottie Central for $82 inclusive. If you're willing to settle for less than porn star looks you can easily get laid for $62. A quicky session with a street girl can be had for about $30.

Granted there are additional costs associated with a sojourn south of the border. And you've got to get off the couch and make the trip. But by following the advice in the FAQ and the common sense tips provided by others the expense and hassle can be minimized.

Finally the Zona Norte experience offers something that's largely lacking in the stateside sex scene -- anticipation. For me part of the fun is having a few beers, checking out the girls at the major clubs, and leering at the street girls. Seeing dozens and dozens of hotties and knowing I can fuck any of them is a turnon for me that makes the trip worthwhile.

Does a trip to the Zona Norte cost more than it did Back in the Day? Sure. Am I concerned about clueless newbies who pay way more than the going rate? Of couse. But all in all, adjusting for the quality of girls and accounting for the intangible fun I think getting laid in TJ continues to be a FAR better value than the stateside sex scene.

Happy holidays to all.

Bunky

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If it wasn't illegal here in Cali, I'd pay the extra cash, but TJ's prices are worth the drive, hotel and any other associated costs rather than getting BUSTED! Other countries have become more appealing because I can P4P on my vacation. It all depends on how often and how much I'm willing to spend.

Bunky, Gilgamesh:

It is true that one can monger in TJ without having to look over his shoulder, no argument from me on that point. It's also true that the Zona still provides more bang for the buck when compared to the States (and it's been that way for a long assed time). In fact I'll be the first to admit that, when adjusted for inflation, the prices are really not much different from 10 years ago. I'm just concerned that, as Bunky says, we'll see enough clueless newbies overpaying to the point where the girls start getting too used to the markup. I admit that the example situation I used isn't likely to happen in the near future, but I was only wondering where the logical conclusion would lie if enough girls kept jacking up the fees (which, now that I think about it, would really be more the fault of said "clueless newbies" than the girls themselves).

I don't even live in Southern California anymore but I used to be a Zona regular back in the early-to-late 90's (and even lived there for half that time), but now, since I live and work on the East coast, all I have time for is the yearly Mexican vacation; I'm rather envious of you guys who still get to do a TJ run every other weekend, especially now that I'm finally making enough money that I could do it every other day (if I still lived in So. Cal.). I'd hate to see a good thing ruined by price-gouging, that's all I'm saying.

It was time to take the trip South of the border to renew vitamin supplies. Left at 2pm, hit the border about 3pm. Found a pharmacy doing $8 deal so got my stash renewed, took stuff back to truck to get it out of my pocket ASAP . Headed to the zona. Did quick walk thru at Chicago, really dead only 3 girls there all together. Adelitas was hopping, saw several possibles but I wanted to hit Hong Kong to see if internet scoop was true. I had heard there that a $20 lap dance in a private booth for 2 songs was really hot.I thot that kind of experience might be a good warmup for the real deal later at CC or AD. Went in looked around first level, not a lot in the booths downstairs so I went upstairs to second level. I got distracted watching some chicas clowning around on a second floor performance platform and felt an arm go around my waist. Turned around to find a very Mexican looking young girl coming on to me. I Told her I was interested in the lap dance so she quickly agreed, to lead me to the 3rd level where there were small booths with a door kinda like the ones you might find in an American video arcade. A waiter had followed us in and I got the message that the $20 was supposed to go to him and the girl would be paid later. I made the payoff and the door closed to leave me alone with the new chica. Turns out she knew some English. She first put her butt on my lap, so I was able to grab her boobs from behind. She was wearing a black bra w/ pretty hard cups so she quickly pulled her tits out over the cups so I could get a real feeling. They were pretty nice natural “C” s that got me hard really quickly. I came sans underwear anticipating this treat so the bulge against my crotch was obvious.She turned around to present me with her pussy while talking dirty in my ear.. turned out, she was in the wrong ear, I didn’t hear a word she said but when she switched sides I got the drift that she wanted me to take her to a room and fuck her for $30 . She let me finger her slit with my hand down her panties and suck her nipples, which drove me crazy. As if this were not enough, she unzipped me and pulled my dick out to suck it for a few minutes, just enough to drive me insane. About the time I was really getting to enjoy it, she would stuff it back in my pants and go back to trying to convince me to fuck her. She did this twice! She then asked me if I had a condom (I did) and why not do her right there in the booth? It was very tempting but I didn’t want to blow my wad in such circumstances since I only had time for one go around. I figured we couldn’t go any farther with this situation and besides I only wanted to get really turned on to find my real experience elsewhere, so in essence we were done. I got up, told her I might be back to go to the room later and left. I made my way back to Adelita’s, did the cruise around once more with nothing really striking my fancy. It was really hard not to oogle each and every one of these women, I was like a kid in a candy store realizing that I could have any one of these beautiful women if I so desired. I knew if I made much eye contact or stopped to linger long that there would be a signal given for a response that would lead to an invitation up to the room, which I would be hard pressed to turn down. I figured to try Chicago Club one more time and come back to Adelita’s if it was still the same as before. I did see one girl in a white sort of nurses uniform with thigh high stocking who had looked really hot (at the CC) , so I wanted to check out CC a little better. I went inside to find things pretty much as before with one exception- Marcella. Marcella looked like she was in her thirties, which really appealed to me, and was dressed like a classy secretary. But she was drop dead beautiful with long hair to her waist and an incredible smile. Her figure was to die for, all new tits that filled out a generous “C” cup. But the bonus was that she spoke perfect English. We got into a conversation which didn’t last very long because I was so obviously very horny, to be ended by an invitation to the room for $60. What a deal! How could I refuse? Went to the room next door. I could not believe this incredible creature was going to fuck me!! Once inside, I put the donation for her time in the counter. She tuned in some porno on the TV monitor while I offered to go wash my hands in the bathroom. I told her I had showered less than an hour ago, which was true, but I had completely forgotten that the girl at the Hong Kong booth had sucked my dick so I really wasn’t as clean as I thought. (I didn’t remember any of this until afterwards- I felt badly later) Marcella then went into the bathroom to wash up leaving me to get naked. When she returned, I asked her if I could undress her. She said OK , so I pulled off her top to enjoy the most perfect breasts you could imagine. She was very playful and seemed to enjoy pleasing me, so I was really having fun. I had brought some lube, so I asked her to put some in her hand to get me really hard as we stood beside the bed. But to my great surprise she suggested that the lube would not be pleasant since she was going to suck my cock. I couldn’t believe it- a BBBJ!! All the others in TJ to this point (apart from the Hong Kong club tease job prior) had been covered. She then bent down and began to work my shaft with her mouth.. I was in heaven. Since this position was hard to maintain, she invited me to lay back on the bed. She took off the rest of her clothes except for a really sexy pair of red panties. She then proceeded to a great BBBJ , really slow and tender. By now I was really steamed and she seemed to know that. She pulled off the red panties and proceeded to apply a cover with her mouth while I fingered her pussy. She then mounted me and rode me cowgirl for a while. She offered doggie, but my favorite is missionary, so Marcella turned over to spread her legs and show me the most beautiful sight a horny man could desire- a pussy aroused so that the lips stand open in an invitation to take the plunge. I paused only long enough to enjoy the view and then began to work my shaft in and out punctuated by working those glorious tits. We went at it in this position for quite sometime, I didn’t want it to stop. Finally, when I was beginning to break a sweat, I erupted deep inside her pussy. I rolled off. And we snuggled a bit before she got up to clean me up. What an experience!. She took a shower while I got dressed, as I was anxious to beat the border line. She came out of the shower as I was finishing and she bid me a sweet adios. Marcella was a dream, her attitude, perfect figure, overall beauty and great sexual skills were more than I could have hoped for.

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Good evening gentlemen,

I have just returned from TJ, literally just crossed back over the border. I spent 2 days here at the border and here is my report on my time spent:

Day #1 - I got here late after the long flight from the east coast and went across the border to bust a nut. I got in the taxi and told him I wanted to go to Adalita's - he suggested another place and I said ok I'll check it out. This is your typical rip-off joint where they charge $45 dollars for the room and you then negotiate with her when in the room; IE: $120 dollars for the girl. As I arrived at the bar and found a tasty piece of TJ flesh that I liked, I didn't leave for AB. I pointed to the woman I wanted and she would not budge from her 120 dollar asking price. As I was very attracted to her body type I didn't mind screwing her for the price asked because at least I got a woman that I enjoyed being with. I forget the name of the club but it was dead with about 10 women in the lineup. After having accomplished my bust a nut goal, I returned back to my hotel for the evening.

Cost for the encounter:

No drink
$11 dollars taxi ride round-trip
$45 dollars for room w/massage
$120 dollars for the woman


Total: $176 dollars - about twice what I would normally be willing to spend, but I don't like over-weight women.

Day #2 - I requested AB and was taken there without any haggling about other places from the taxi driver, a welcomed change from the ussual jargon. At AB I sat and watched the espn sports replays of the day and about 10 women came up to my booth and asked to take me upstairs. As I am not attracted to the body types that they offered, I declined them all. About 20 minutes later a very cute woman named Michelle came up and stood next to my booth without saying anything. As she was my type I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs, she of course said yes.

$4 dollars for drink w/tip
$12 dollars for room
$60 dollars for the girl

Total: $76 dollars for the encounter

The encounter was very under-whelming. She was like a dead fish, which isn't any fun.

So off to the Chicao club I went where I ordered 2 drinks and after 20 minutes a woman got the nerve to come over and sit down with me. Her name was spelled on a piece of paper - its not her real name but her working name. Its spelled Giesha or Geisha - she pronounced it Yeesha or something like that.

$10 dollars for 2 drinks for me w/tip
$9 dollars for drink for her w/tip
$12 dollars for room
$60 dollars for her

Total: $91 dollars well spent

I have this to say to say about our encounter, holy shit what a great time. If anyone is in TJ and wants a great experience, I highly recommend her. Unlike Michelle from AB; she was all over me and she actually rode me the whole time with her on top - about 10 minutes for me to finally lose it and blow.

Happy hunting gents.

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On price points, etc. One thing I do is go to TJ during the daytime and/or on midweek days. usually prices are less. Personally, and this is true, I have never paid more than $30 in Adelitas (I have not been in Chicago bar in awhile, but I never paid more than that there either).

When the place is packed girls will always charge more.

I also have a cheapskate friend who refuses to buy beer in the bars. The girls always rush to leave with him becuase he comes to TJ regularly. So going down to TJ on a regular basis also drops the price. He usually pays around $30,too.

And, in the end, the girls will take what they think they can get. If you do not want to pay $60-$80 for a porn star, and cannot get her for less via one of the things I mention above, then fight the urge to pay her and hold out. Find one that will take your money and hope that the porn star sees you leaving with her. trust me, eventually the porn star will give in. These are still women and they get jealous!

TJ

I think someone asked earlier what's the current bar fee for TLNs. I asked the bartender on Monday and he said it would cost $100 to the club. Not as good as $30 but not as bad as $200, reported earlier. For $30, I'd be ok with that, but $100 is still too pricy. Best to arrange something with the girl on the side before or after she goes to work.

Once I did have a girl leave early with me without paying the club, but I had to wait for her on the corner for her while she told management that her period was starting. She was planning on leaving town anyway the next day so it was an easy excuse for her.

[QUOTE=Alguem]I think someone asked earlier what's the current bar fee for TLNs. I asked the bartender on Monday and he said it would cost $100 to the club. Not as good as $30 but not as bad as $200, reported earlier. For $30, I'd be ok with that, but $100 is still too pricy. Best to arrange something with the girl on the side before or after she goes to work.

Once I did have a girl leave early with me without paying the club, but I had to wait for her on the corner for her while she told management that her period was starting. She was planning on leaving town anyway the next day so it was an easy excuse for her.[/QUOTE]
Somehow I don't see $100, or even $200, as being too much for TLN. When you consider that guys are paying $60-$70 for 30 minutes, and how much an all-nighter would cost with a Stateside escort, a couple of Benjamins is actually a damned good deal.

[QUOTE=Smut Villain]Somehow I don't see $100, or even $200, as being too much for TLN. When you consider that guys are paying $60-$70 for 30 minutes, and how much an all-nighter would cost with a Stateside escort, a couple of Benjamins is actually a damned good deal.[/QUOTE]SV, the $100 is the bar fine to the club. What the girl charges is on top of the bar fine. So yeah, it'd be well worth it if the girl went for free but you're a lucky individual if that happens ;)

[QUOTE=Smut Villain]Somehow I don't see $100, or even $200, as being too much for TLN. When you consider that guys are paying $60-$70 for 30 minutes, and how much an all-nighter would cost with a Stateside escort, a couple of Benjamins is actually a damned good deal.[/QUOTE]

He's talking about the BAR FINE. The girl is going to want her fee on top of that.

The Bar Fine is the amount established by the bar for their loss as a result of the girl leaving the floor for the shift. They figure they'll lose that much in fichas etc. The earlier she goes, the more the bar fine will be.

Squeeze test the girl in the club and set things up for the following night or day. It's best to get them off property, to a movie, maybe dinner and then to the hotel; that's when they'll GFE you. Many girls say at the clubs hotel and get a cheap rate so they are somewhat be-holding to the club, so make sure you let her explain everything.

Good luck.

Country John

[QUOTE=Country John]He's talking about the BAR FINE. The girl is going to want her fee on top of that.

The Bar Fine is the amount established by the bar for their loss as a result of the girl leaving the floor for the shift. They figure they'll lose that much in fichas etc. The earlier she goes, the more the bar fine will be.

Squeeze test the girl in the club and set things up for the following night or day. It's best to get them off property, to a movie, maybe dinner and then to the hotel; that's when they'll GFE you. Many girls say at the clubs hotel and get a cheap rate so they are somewhat be-holding to the club, so make sure you let her explain everything.

Good luck.

Country John[/QUOTE]
Okay, I see now; I stand corrected. In a case like that $100 is indeed too much. I guees I'd rather make the deal on the side.

I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

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This is common at other bars such as Adelitas, HK even Tropical but rare. You just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The CC waiters will always come up and solicit you for drinks, after all, they don't cater to guys taking up space but not spending money. Most will allow you to cruise through even make a couple of loops around the bar, no problem. Often times I am just talking to an amiga there, no drink bought. They ask me if I want one or one for her, I say no, we are just talking for a few min. and everything is cool.

What pisses me off is guys who come in at CC and just stand around for 20 min. smoking up the place with foul smelling cigars, blocking my view of the strip show. This has happened and if I had thought of it I would have had the cop remove them myself.

It's one thing to have Looky-Lou's outside of AB but quite another to have them standing inside an already overly crowded bar.

Next time just make a bee line to the men's room or make a round, say you are looking for an amigo or your favorita and will leave if you don't find them. This buys you 5 minutes or so which is all the time you really need to decide if your dream girl is there.

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.[/QUOTE]

The waiters at ALL the clubs are usually pushy about patrons buying drinks. Especially on any non-fri/sat night. Anytime I walk into CC or AB, I automatically expect to buy a drink/even just bottled water. And that $4 to $5 drink is your ticket to sit down and relax. You can nurse that drink for the next hour until you decide what you want to do. So when you don't have tits in your hand; it's wise to have a drink in hand.

[quote=jay love]the waiters at all the clubs are usually pushy about patrons buying drinks. especially on any non-fri/sat night. anytime i walk into cc or ab, i automatically expect to buy a drink/even just bottled water. and that $4 to $5 drink is your ticket to sit down and relax. you can nurse that drink for the next hour until you decide what you want to do. so when you don't have tits in your hand; it's wise to have a drink in hand.[/quote]


yeah, i do that. i've had the same bottled water for hours on end, just sitting in my booth watching the girls. the meseros will pass by take a quick look at my bottled water then move on. no questions asked. i've even sneaked in bottled water from other places, sat down with it and they still leave me alone. i rarely do that though cause not every one uses the same bottled water brand. and for the peep show i get to see, might as well let them have the $5 bucks.

[quote=playa pavones]i went to chicago club thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said i had to buy a drink. i told him i was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. he went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

really kind of ridiculous situation. but my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? i would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since i just moved to san diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.[/quote]


sorry to say this, but you won't win. it's basically because you are required to buy a drink if your going to sit and watch. not so much if your standing but that only applies if the club is crowded. the club owner makes the meseros be pushy. that's how they make their money, selling drinks to the patrons. it's the same in all the clubs. at least all the ones i've been too. i guess you can consider it an entrance fee. if you buy only water like i do, then it's only $5 bucks and that includes the tip.

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.[/QUOTE]

The clubs make a lot of money off the drinks, not so much the girls. The waiters especially make more from the tips for serving beer than from you taking a girl upstairs. The mesero is probably working under the instructions of the owner of the bar to get rid of people not buying drinks. A good customer to the bar is one who buys a lot of drinks and tips well. One who is only shopping for a girl isn't making them money.

You will get kicked out of US clubs for not ordering drinks too.

I understand the waiters and bar only make money if you spend money at the bar (I was a bartender in clubs for many years) and I usually nurse a water; however, I only had enough spare money for a girl/room/taxi back that night (the night before my birthday). The funny thing is that there was no one in there.

It's all right though, because the girls at Chicago Club are lesser quality than Adelitas, and the only reason I went in there was for a change of pace. From now on, I'll avoid going there at all (not that they need my money). Guess I'll try Hong Kong Club next for the change.

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.[/QUOTE]

Listen up my brothers:

The clubs do not care about you. They don't care if you ever return. For every monger that tells them to shove it up their ass, there are two waiting in line to get in. Your dollar has zero power. Forget it.

I would walk into a club and not stop until I circled the place. Tell the waiter to hang on for a minute, you'll be right with him and smile when you talk. Don't get into arguements as you will lose. If you are lurking, buy a beer.

Playa, when you return to CC, they won't even recognize you. So go back, have fun, do the drill.

Country John

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there..[/QUOTE]Manager at CC nights is Tauro. He was punished and sent to daytime awhile back, but seems he got reinstated to night time recently.

Unless your a VIP customer you ain't getting squat for the most part...

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]Guess I'll try Hong Kong Club next for the change.[/QUOTE]HK night managers are Chino, Raul and Carlos. All good guys for the most part.

My suggestion is get to know a waiter or two at each place you frequent. They will ALWAYS remember you. Just be friendly, they are human too after all :)

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I went to Chicago Club Thursday night and had run in with one of the waiters, because he said I had to buy a drink. I told him I was just looking for a girl to take upstairs. He went and got the policeman at the door, who came in and made me leave.

Really kind of ridiculous situation. But my question is: does anybody know the main club manager or owner? I would like to let them know that, even though they don't need my money, one pushy waiter has caused a potential repeat customer (since I just moved to San Diego two months ago) to vow not to return there.[/QUOTE]Hey Playa,

What do you think they would say to you if you went to a strip club in the US that had a cover charge, a two drink minimum and you told the doorman that you just wanted to go in and look around first? Mexico has it's way of doing things too (even though they may seem to change on a day to day basis). Don't forget you're down there to have fun. Enjoy yourself and don't let the little things [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off or you won't have that fun.

[QUOTE=Playa Pavones]I understand the waiters and bar only make money if you spend money at the bar (I was a bartender in clubs for many years) and I usually nurse a water; however, I only had enough spare money for a girl/room/taxi back that night (the night before my birthday). The funny thing is that there was no one in there.

It's all right though, because the girls at Chicago Club are lesser quality than Adelitas, and the only reason I went in there was for a change of pace. From now on, I'll avoid going there at all (not that they need my money). Guess I'll try Hong Kong Club next for the change.[/QUOTE]If you went into CC before 8 or 9pm, then yeah it'd be dead. Not sure why they brought the cop in unless they took it personal by the way you reacted.

Generally I've never had a problem with any of the maseros. At Chicago, I'll circle around a time or two and then head to the bathroom if I'm still deciding whether I want to stay or not. But implicitly, if I sit down, I know I'll need to order a drink. The same is true at either AB or HK. Fortunately, with those places I generall stand and like to move around.

At CC once, I just wanted to watch a game that was on without all the smoke in AB, and it was literally empty (early). I didn't want a drink and just gave the masero a buck and I was left alone. Really, they don't care about your drinks, they just want the tip. Also, I think Sun-Thurs before 8pm you get 2 for 1 drinks, which isn't bad for beers.

Yeah, CC is usually empty. Everytime I go in there, I circle the place then walk back out. Next time I go, I'll probably just sit to have some free time to relax to myself.

For those who know her: Is Corina Back yet? Has anyone seen her? About 21y and hails from Sonora. She's about 5' 7'', dark hair (usually pulled back), medium complexion, and big beautiful brown eyes; has a pouty/stuck-up demeanor. All, I almost forgot: has an amazing set of tits. I've been going to AB lately and haven't made it by CC in over 1 month. Thanks.
Jay

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah, CC is usually empty. Everytime I go in there, I circle the place then walk back out. Next time I go, I'll probably just sit to have some free time to relax to myself.[/QUOTE]

I can't remember who told me this, maybe it was a friend who is now retired in SEA, but imagine not being told about the $25.00 admission charge until you were ready to leave. Things are not that bad in TJ, but the rule seems to be that everyone is supposed to win.

CC is (in my humble opinion) a much better situation than AB from a mongering viewpoint. AB is like Nordstroms and Walmart at the same time, especially after the remodel. I hate the new place. CC is original, probably the last "original" of the originals.

Country John

[QUOTE=Jay Love]For those who know her: Is Corina Back yet? Has anyone seen her? About 21y and hails from Sonora. She's about 5' 7'', dark hair (usually pulled back), medium complexion, and big beautiful brown eyes; has a pouty/stuck-up demeanor. All, I almost forgot: has an amazing set of tits. I've been going to AB lately and haven't made it by CC in over 1 month. [/QUOTE]Sorry Jay but going by memory no one stood out with that description. I was at CC last night a little before 8pm.

[quote=Country John]CC is (in my humble opinion) a much better situation than AB from a mongering viewpoint. [b]AB is like Nordstroms and Walmart[/b] at the same time, especially after the remodel. I hate the new place. CC is original, probably the last "original" of the originals.[/quote]Yeah you're right, I like the analogy on AB. Personally, I just like the more relaxed feel at CC. Besides having a couple of favs there doesn't hurt.

It's too bad CC can't attract girls to work in the afternoons as well, so it's customer base doesn't get so bursty.

[QUOTE=Country John]I can't remember who told me this, maybe it was a friend who is now retired in SEA, but imagine not being told about the $25.00 admission charge until you were ready to leave. Things are not that bad in TJ, but the rule seems to be that everyone is supposed to win.

CC is (in my humble opinion) a much better situation than AB from a mongering viewpoint. AB is like Nordstroms and Walmart at the same time, especially after the remodel. I hate the new place. CC is original, probably the last "original" of the originals.

Country John[/QUOTE]I walked into Chicago Club a couple times before just to check out the girls and take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. But I was never charged a 25 dollar fee.

[QUOTE=Tjmee]I walked into Chicago Club a couple times before just to check out the girls and take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. But I was never charged a 25 dollar fee.[/QUOTE]I think CJ was just amking an example.

There is no $25 admission fee for Chicago.

By the way, I was in at CC last night about 7pm and there was a decent mix of girls. Definitely a few cuties working last night, and a babe or two.

[QUOTE=Tjmee]I walked into Chicago Club a couple times before just to check out the girls and take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. But I was never charged a 25 dollar fee.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I was not rerferring to Chicago Club. A friend of mine was telling me some horror stories and one of them was about a club he went into and only had 1 drink, no girl play etc but he sat through a 1 hour floor show. He kept declining the waiters on more drinks etc, then the security guys came up and told him he needed to pay $25.00 admission, but he could do it when he left.

I believe it was somewhere is SEA, but I really don't recall.

CC does NOT charge admission.

Country John

What is SEA?

[QUOTE=Efjayel]What is SEA?[/QUOTE]Southeast Asia :)

Nice little blonde spinner working at Chicago with her friend on Thursday early (6pm-8pm). Her name's Alondra/Anna (she switched names midstream so one's probably real and one's her club name but not sure which is which). First time I'd ever seen her and her friend.

She's about 5' without heels I'd guess, and probably 90 lbs, kinda cute, frizzy blonde hair. Didn't take her up, but seemed nice for a 1 drink talk at the bar. Was dressed in a short white dress, with a white coat (and a fur cuff around the hood). Her morena friend was kind of trying to tag team it for drinks. Who wants to buy drinks for 2 girls when you're just trying to be with 1.

Also was eyeing a a tall hottie names Sony?/Sunny? (according to the bartender). Like 5'9" or taller, sexy looks with a what looked to be a nice tight body and good figure. Black hair, not particularly long, dressed in a little black dress so high up, she was flashing half of a great ass. Looks pretty young, prob early 20's. Busy the whole time of course.

last saturday i decided to pay a visit.

traffice sucked, there were two accidents and i just about missed the last us exit. arrgh!

got to hk about 7, just missed the 2-for-1. i may post more of that in the appropriate thread.

rolled into cc at about 10:15. place was in a bit of a lull. fairly busy, but not packed. cruised around a few times looking for a couple of faves. one was a no-show, another was already with somebody. she told me she wasn't sure if he was going to take her, so was i going to be there for a while? if so, she'd come find me.

parked at the end of the short bar away from the door and watched. while i was waiting to see what would happen a rather tall girls came in, walked up and sat on the stool next to me. she has short, chin-length hair bleached mostly blonde, very fair skin and natural c cups. she had a large grim reaper pendant on her necklace. she was wearing an english driving cap on backwards, and she really reminded me of gina davis.

she finally said hi and we chatted a sec. i offered a drink and we yakked some more while i kept an eye on my fave. she calls herself kathya de chihuahua. 25, one kid, some ingles. she was also wearing a really short skirt and long white boots. she told me this was her first day working. i laughed and asked her what the spanish term for bullshit was. she wanted to know why, and i told her that all the girls tell everybody that it's their first day, first week, etc. she asked if the girls really do say that and i assured her that the girsl all over the world do.

a bit later, she got my attention, turned on the stool towards me and looked at her crotch and smiled. of course, she was wearing no panties. she made sure i understood that her pussy was very smooth! then she put my hand on it, in case i didn't believe her, i suppose. :-) she also told me that she gave very good blow job, no condom, very good sex, too, $50, let's go upstairs.

well, the guy with my fave finally decided and they moved off. damn! it was still a bit too soon from my last encounter at hk, but i'll give it a try. so, we head off. going up the stairs she's tugging on her hem and trying to pull her skirt down a bit. she giggled about the taxi drivers getting free peeks at her ass while going up the stairs.

upstairs i see she has a fair number of stretch marks and somewhat loose belly skin, but all covered with a ginormous tattoo of vines, some sort of rose, etc., hmm. and, just for laughs, she has another large grim reaper on her left shoulder. (she sounded just like another girl posted on the miami thread, but i didn't notice a butterfly on her ass, and i got a really good look at it.) very white, very soft skin. very nice, gfe attitute. very good bbbj, just as advertised. liked daty and had 2 os, if she was to be believed. (one i'm pretty sure about, the other, well...). did plenty of mish and perrito, took me forever, as it was too soon. almost gave up, but i persevered! :-)

after finishing we cleaned up a bit and got dressed. i pull out what little cash i have left and give her $50. she looks at it and says what's this? it was $50 for the sex and another $50 for the bbbj. wtf?? i know what i heard, my spanish is weak but not that bad. i told her she said $50, and that i was very sorry, but i didn't have any more money. i had $9 left and showed it to her. i told her i had to pay the taxi $5, and gave her the other $4.

then she asks if i'm sure that's all i have. i pulled out my phone, passport, keys, and found a stray $5 bill. so, i ask her for the $4 back and give her the $5. she looks at me kinda funny and i realize that this was just a $1 increase. so, i repeat that i have to give the taxi $5, the boy $1, $1 for myself, and gave her the last $2. she seemed somewhat mollified. then i dug into my pocket, as a joke, and pulled out all my coins. i said "hay monedas." she said ok and started picking through them! she pulled out all the silver (something less than $1) and left all the pennies. she said "i like these" (meaning the silver coins), "but i don't like these" and pointed to the pennies.

so, we left on good terms, i guess. i apologized again in the hallway and she said it was ok, no problem, there's next time, and she askied when i'd be returning. kiss at the doorway and adios. she went back into cc, and i, and my $6, flagged a taxi on the corner and took off, only to be molested at the hands of tj's finest.

the net effect was that she got just a bit less than the standard $60, which is my absolute upper limit and, i suspect, what what she normally got, anyway. i was "fortunate" that i was broke, so a major scene didn't develop, and i guess i learned something, too.

looks - 8 clothed, 7 nekkid
attitude - 10
technique - 9
probability of repeat - 80% (unless she tries for the $100 nonsense again)

pp

[QUOTE=Phordphan]She has short, chin-length hair bleached mostly blonde, very fair skin and natural C cups. She had a large grim reaper pendant on her necklace. She was wearing an English driving cap on backwards, and she really reminded me of Gina Davis.

She calls herself Kathya de Chihuahua. 25, one kid, some Ingles. [/QUOTE]WTF for $100 is right! Luckily you made a clean escape. I'm surprised you still rated her attitude so high after the bait and switch. If next time you get her to $60 or $70 with a good BBBJ then that's worth it.

Thanks for the trip report, entertaining read :)

[QUOTE=Alguem]WTF for $100 is right! Luckily you made a clean escape. I'm surprised you still rated her attitude so high after the bait and switch. If next time you get her to $60 or $70 with a good BBBJ then that's worth it.

Thanks for the trip report, entertaining read :)[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

The only reason she got an attitude rating that high is that she didn't pitch a fit. Things could certainly have gotten ugly, fast! But, on the way down the hall, she just smiled and said "No problema." And you're right, $60+ w/BBBJ with same service will be well worth it. We'll see...

PP

[QUOTE=Phordphan]Thanks.

The only reason she got an attitude rating that high is that she didn't pitch a fit. Things could certainly have gotten ugly, fast! But, on the way down the hall, she just smiled and said "No problema." And you're right, $60+ w/BBBJ with same service will be well worth it. We'll see...

PP[/QUOTE]
Personally I think she was "testing the waters" a bit, so to speak. IOW, she's presently experimenting with adjusting the price to see where the "dealbreaker" point is. Wherever that price point happens to be is what I'll bet she starts charging from here on in. She's probably heard about the recent troubles for the Dollar (who hasn't?) so she's probably wondering how far up scale the average monger will go.

They're not just *****s; a lot of them are businesswomen as well.They'll charge what the market will bear if you let them get away with it. Somehow I think that's exactly what she was doing; testing the "market" to see what it will bear. Kudos for standing up, man :)

Chicago Club has lowered beer and mixed drink prices back down to $3 from 8pm until closing. They have $2 beer certain days before 8pm.

Price of putas remains the same for the most part but I'm hearing of deals.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Chicago Club has lowered beer and mixed drink prices back down to $3 from 8pm until closing. They have $2 beer certain days before 8pm.

Price of putas remains the same for the most part but I'm hearing of deals.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I was charged $2 tonight at CC.

Lower drink prices are always a plus. Must be tough financial times for CC. I haven't done a girl there in months. I know they also lost their top girl (my ex-fav) to AB. I seen her at AB last sunday night and this past saturday night. I thought that she was going to slap the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of me, LOL. But I just can't get enough of my new fav at AB these days.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Chicago Club has lowered beer and mixed drink prices back down to $3 from 8pm until closing. They have $2 beer certain days before 8pm.

Price of putas remains the same for the most part but I'm hearing of deals.[/QUOTE]

Yaaaay! Glad to hear it. Hey, a buck saved is a buck saved.

I don't suppose they knocked the price of the LDs down, too? :)

PP

[QUOTE=Phordphan]

I don't suppose they knocked the price of the LDs down, too? :)

PP[/QUOTE]

No Ladies Drinks seem to have some how remained the same as well as the rental fees for same arriba.

I was there Wed and didnt notice a difference in ladies drinks but my friend went last night and said the ladies drinks were only $7 then. Wont be back there till after next payday so cant really confirm that though I know for sure the guys drinks at night was only $3 at 10pm or so.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]I was there Wed and didnt notice a difference in ladies drinks but my friend went last night and said the ladies drinks were only $7 then. Wont be back there till after next payday so cant really confirm that though I know for sure the guys drinks at night was only $3 at 10pm or so.[/QUOTE]Lady Drinks were $7 a couple nights ago. There was some confusion even between the maseros and the girls. So confirm with the masero on the prices for drinks for both. Otherwise, there's always the chance a masero will pocket the extra as a "tip" if you think the drinks are $8.

Hopped into CC on Thursday last week. Several cute chicas with one or two spinners. One chica very shapely with metallic orange very tight dress offered herself and her friend, at the same time. Since I had just come from AB I did not surrender. No cover charges, the drinks were reasonable, and the place was much more relaxed than AB or HK.

The Silver Rabbit

Fri night they seemed to have started the stripper dancing alot sooner than usual.. They were danceing before 9pm instead of the usual 11pm or later. Might be too little too late.

Heard a chica took a bad fall down the hotel steps of Leyva or Jalos Fri night and might have broken some bones and was bleeding and taken away in a ambulence. Not sure who it was though I did hear it was tall Crystal with the big tits and long dark hair.

Ouch!

Does Crystal speak english almost perfectly? Used to be a resident of SOCAL before going to Tj? If so I think I know her. Hope its not her D:

I recall once when I was at the lobby for the hotel that Adelitas uses, there was a chica in really high heels. A bean pole, thick or chunky you might say and really tall. I was about to get a room with one of my favoritas. The bean pole girl had just finished a session and was saying goodbye to the monger. He started to walk downstairs so she started to walk towards the lobby guy. She slipped and fell. I didn't witness it but I heard a really loud thud/splat that even shook the floor. I turned around and saw the monger running back up the stairs and the chica on the floor already trying to get back up. She was holding back the pain cause she limped towards the lobby guy. I asked her if she was okay but she just ignored me. I think she broke a heel.

I felt bad, but then once in the room with my favorita she made me feel better. I also recall on a different session with my favorita, as we where climbing up the stairs I picked her up with a bear hug and spinned her. She liked it but mentioned that I might make her fall cause of her high heels. I just told her not to worry. So I did it again in the room once she was naked. I guess thats why they call those short girls spinners. She's not skinny though. According to this site's definitions a spinner is short and skinny. She only applies in the short department. But man does she have a great ass and legs. Doggy with her is so much fun.

This Friday night May 2nd, CC offers a 2 show porn star appearance and show. Cover is I believe $15 in advance or #20 at the door. First show may be 8pm not sure.

So if you plan on your regular CC thing forget about it. Your girl may not even be there, if she is it will cost you more than 2 drinks to part the curtain.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]This Friday night May 2nd, CC offers a 2 show porn star appearance and show. Cover is I believe $15 in advance or #20 at the door. First show may be 8pm not sure.

So if you plan on your regular CC thing forget about it. Your girl may not even be there, if she is it will cost you more than 2 drinks to part the curtain.[/QUOTE]Anyone going down to TJ and can actually verify (in person) that they are doing this at CC would be appreciated. I have been going to CC since 1992 or so. I don't think I ever remember paying a cover charge in the place. I have never even seen them force you to buy a drink (AB and HK I have). But I almost never am there on Fri/Sat night mostly Sun- Thur.

If I was there I would probably just pay the $20 to see the show. But I just can't imagine they would do this. Most people would not pay and I am pretty sure the locals would not pay. I tend to spend a lot of $$ when I there 2-3x per year so no big deal to me. But overall this would be a dramatic change.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]This Friday night May 2nd, CC offers a 2 show porn star appearance and show. Cover is I believe $15 in advance or #20 at the door. First show may be 8pm not sure.

So if you plan on your regular CC thing forget about it. Your girl may not even be there, if she is it will cost you more than 2 drinks to part the curtain.[/QUOTE]


Porn star appearance? Please elaborate...

Yes please do, I may have to go down then.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Porn star appearance? Please elaborate...[/QUOTE]

Some blond name of Sabrina with Double F or so plastic tits. Not my thing. That's all I know. Not my thing, #1 she looks like a F'ng GRINGA. #2 I hate GIGANTE FAKE TITS! #3 I drop more than the $20 cover charge each week on ficha drinks be damned if I pay a cover at CC to watch this shit.

Any pics of her?

Are you talking about this girl?

[url]http://www.bangbrosnetwork.com/t1/pps=bbonet/models/Sabrina6.html[/url]

What exactly is the show composed of? Just a strip show?

Not the same girl as in the link. Just a strip show for the most part, maybe 2 girls with some lesbion action. $20 cover at the door. Close seats by the stage are $30. yawn

This is the Sabrina that's been booked into Chicago. Although originally from Argentina she has made her career in Mexico. Soft core only.

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]This is the Sabrina that's been booked into Chicago. Although originally from Argentina she has made her career in Mexico. Soft core only.[/QUOTE]

All I know is she messed up my plans for tonight at Chicago. I will sit this one out and see my amigas Saturday night. Hopefully she will not be booked for a repeat performance Saturday.

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]This is the Sabrina that's been booked into Chicago. Although originally from Argentina she has made her career in Mexico. Soft core only.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=50623681[/url]

I'm not impressed. They are pretty big, but what a joke. Each one supposedly weighs over 10 lbs.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Sabrok[/url]

Here's a post from her "Official" fan site showing each at just over 7 lbs., but with the intention of adding another 2.2 lbs in a month. Note the number of surgeries required...

[url]http://www.digitalclaw.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276[/url]

PP

Lol they are pretty big but I wouldn't really wanna pay 30 bucks just to see them. Shes pretty but thats it. It would be like a bowling ball hitting you in the face if she was on top. Not worth it.

Oh, okay. I've seen her before on numerous spanish television shows. Big tits are nice but those are simply ugly looking. I've heard her talk about her bewbs before. They're very delicate from all the surgeries she's had. When she has sex with her husband, he doesn't do anything to them from fear that they might burst. I don't blame the dude. She once had one of them break and started leaking the fluids inside her which obviously required immediate surgery. And yet after all this, she still plans to make them bigger. She's attempting a world record.

Her face is nice and all, although her lips are obviously injected with something to make them look bigger, but her boobs scare me. I wouldn't want to get anywhere near them. When she's on stage at CC and one of those breasts might burst and drench the onlookers on the first few rows. Eww...

There used a Sabina clone at Adelitas, Yvonne or Ivonne? with bleach blond hair and basketballs implanted in her chest. Havent seen her in several months there in several months but those where too much, even though I am a tit man. I wonder how attendance at the show was Fri night at $15-20+ a ticket.

Some of the chicas did express concern that since she was notorious, a local tv station or magazine/newspaper might send a camera crew that might try to take pics where their faces or clients faces might appear in the background. Alot dont want folks or relatives living in cities nearby like Mexicali or Ensenada or beyond knowing what they do.

Anyone do a privado at CC yet?

Are those booths now open?

How much were they?

Since when did they add booths at CC?

Not to good in my eyes.

[QUOTE=Dosequis]Anyone do a privado at CC yet?

Are those booths now open?

How much were they?[/QUOTE]

They are supposedly open but none of the waiters or chicas have observed anyone using them so for now they are just a waste of space.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]There used a Sabina clone at Adelitas, Yvonne or Ivonne? with bleach blond hair and basketballs implanted in her chest. Havent seen her in several months there in several months but those where too much, even though I am a tit man. I wonder how attendance at the show was Fri night at $15-20+ a ticket.

Some of the chicas did express concern that since she was notorious, a local tv station or magazine/newspaper might send a camera crew that might try to take pics where their faces or clients faces might appear in the background. Alot dont want folks or relatives living in cities nearby like Mexicali or Ensenada or beyond knowing what they do.[/QUOTE]Hey Belgrath,

When you refer to Ivonne, do you mean this Ivonne?

I wouldn't mind hitting that at all, in fact I've been looking for that girl for quite some time. I met her before she got her gig on TV. If anyone knows where to contact this girl please send me a PM or post info. I wouldn't even mind paying a higher rate than what I did before.

Luisato.

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[QUOTE=Dosequis]Anyone do a privado at CC yet?

Are those booths now open?

How much were they?[/QUOTE]The Booths are open, and cost $20. The girl gets $10 and the house $10.

They are hardly used at all, as the girls themselves aren't promoting or asking customers to use them. I suspect, quite a few of the girls aren't comfortable using them.

Maria the muy blanca flaca with long straight dark hair has been MIA the past couple of weeks. I believe someone said she was spotted at Adelita but not sure if this was a positive ID.

Anyone know if she switched bars? It hasn't been that long since she returned from vacation but could be on another.

CC in general was slower than normal at least early around 9:30 for a Saturday.

Thurs night Nadia was there too, saw a few new girls from Sinaloa couple danced one was fat the other was not bad, Valerie of something... her 2 other friends where slim and hot though they didnt dance. Nellie was back and looked nice in a new hairstyle. Chicas often outnumbered mongers most of the night...

seen Also:
Alejandra (dancer)
Perla (dancer)
Nancy
Estrella (dancer)
Myra
Marbel
Marvella
Jackie
the shaving cream show trio
Cynthia (morena with big tits who dances)
Frieda (dancer)


THink Nirvana was at HK or that other girl with same build, ok crowd but not like weekend at HK. Couple of cute new girls at HK too but the one I wanted mainly wanted to drink not arriba crying02.gif . Maybe time will make her change her mind, one of the banner girls was pretty hot, anyone had luck getting them to arriba for $60 or less? AB had lots of nice talent but crowd was way thin for a Thurs night. Barkers at other small bars were really hungry when passing by.

Belgrath, thanks for the roll call. Are Marvella and Jackie dancers too? I noticed you did not designate them as such.

Thanks for the report, Belgrath.

Is Perla the same as La Perlita from several years ago? She was an incredibly hot dancer, and received pretty good reviews from el cuarto as I recall.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Belgrath, thanks for the roll call. Are Marvella and Jackie dancers too? I noticed you did not designate them as such.[/QUOTE]

yep both dance, Marvella has a great ass though not much in the chest (Im a big tit lover). Jackie for some reason dances kinda mechanically when dancing for tips but later on when she's dancing with some guy or her lady friends (and maybe buzzed) she gets pretty good at getting low. Her weight seems to fluctuate and sometimes she seems kinda pudgy.

After leaving Lady H at around 8:45, I strolled down the alley looking for an acquaintance. Checked into Las Valentinas, things seemed rather slow and he wasn’t there. Next stop, Miami as I hadn’t been in since they knocked out the wall. On through Las Chavelas, nothing that really grabbed my attention. Out the front and into Silicone City, just for fun. Lots of good looking chicas, but I’ve never really cared for the place.

Wandered to CC, found him. We chatted for a bit, compared notes, waited for a mutual fave who turned out to be a no-show. Bummer. Gave up waiting at about 9:45. So, on a tip, I went to the end of the bar near the ladies room and struck up a conversation with Nancy.

She’s a cute spinner, 26, about 4’ 1” (seriously), streaky hair, B-naturales, sweet attitude, rather likes to cuddle, one son (8 yrs.), lives with mama and a flock of siblings. She has a very nice tendency to nurse a drink for a loooong time. Very refreshing change.

If I know the girl’s name, I like to play a little game. I “remember” their name, then tell them that I remember them. These girls seem to have incredible memories, so it’s great fun to watch them as they search their brains to remember who this weird gringo sitting in front of them is, cuz THEY certainly don’t remember ME. :)

So, for the next hour we got acquainted. During most of that time she only had one LD. Cool! Then we did a couple of tequila shots, just for laughs. It also helps to loosen them up a bit. She started getting friendlier after the first shot. My small shot of Vitamin L was finally kicking in. We eventually settled on $50 for the session, so vamos arriba!

As a side note, I learned a bit about the health card, as she showed me hers.
They’re supposed to get their panochas checked once a month for $60, and their blood tested every 6 months, for $58. No card, no work. Fail the health test, no card, no work. Work without a card and get caught, it’s 3 days in jail or $150 bribe to the TJPD. You can tell if the card’s current, cuz there’s a sticker on the front of it with the date.

In the room, plenty of kissing and caressing took place. I headed south, she started giggling and covering her panocha with her hands. I gently pried them away, but every time my tongue touched her she’d jump, giggle a bit and say no. I had to finally just “insist” and kept saying “tranquilo, tranquilo.” She settled down, then began to enjoy. Funny thing, at the time, I thought she was taking an awfully long time to finish. But, towards the end, she began to move more and more, and softly moan some more. She finally made me stop. I was tired and came up for breath. She started some kissing and stroking of Phord Jr., when the first knock came. Arrgh. This had taken longer that I’d thought. Up, on with the jacket and did some really good mish in record time. Phew!

We were actually able to rest for a bit, get up and shower (no hot water) and get dressed before the second knock came, which was about 15 minutes late. So, things must have been kinda slow. Gave her the dinero, asked if she was hungry (Si!) and we retired to Al Capone’s.

I’ve always thought the food there was pretty good, but way overpriced. A plate of 3 tacos is $6. Even Ms. N commented on it, but they were very good.
She likes to cuddle a bit and eat. We enjoyed our tacos and I got a bit of head and neck massage afterwards.

During the meal, I leaned over and said “Quantos orgasmos?”
She gave me a rather sheepish look, grinned, help up her hand and said “Cinco.” Holy crap. No wonder it took so long. She must have the quietest o’s on record.

I told her I was jealous. Why? Cuz you get 5 and I only get one!

Anyway, after about 45 minutes she needed to get back. So, I walked her back to the bar, took a leak and said adios. Caught a cab in the alley and got back to the border just before 1:00. There was so much traffic the taxi couldn’t get up to the Sentri dropoff point. I’ve noticed on the last several trips, that there aren’t any cops at the dropoff point any more. Cool.

No lines. When did they put in that huge new turnstile and the huge white fence? Managed to get into the shortest line (5 or 6 people), but it turned out to be the “weird documentation” line. These guys were pulling all sorts of laminated paperwork out of their asses. I swear one guy had his original BC, complete with footprints. Some jerk got sent to secondary after a leeeengthy interview. JUST GET A FRICKIN’ PASSPORT!

So, a good time was had by all, except my wallet, which turned out to be about $320 lighter. :(

PP

There is a rumor floating around that CC is for sale or lease. Anyone have any solid particulars?

Country John

Solid particulars? :confused:

Do you want to partner up and make it the best little *****house in TJ? I'm looking for an investment...

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Solid particulars? :confused:

Do you want to partner up and make it the best little *****house in TJ? I'm looking for an investment...[/QUOTE]

If you can raise $500,000.00 This week, then PM me.

Country John

Hey, went to tj first time yesterday. Went to amnesia first then to cc. This giirl came up and sat next to me she was around 5ft big titas I guess D and streaked hair. Settled for 50 went up after cbj did dogge during that the condom got out that time didn't think any thing now I am fing scared hey guys how's the hiv report of cc.

[QUOTE=Eddy84]the condom got out [/QUOTE]

Hugh? Do you mean it came off?

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Hugh? Do you mean it came off?[/QUOTE]Yeah man doin dogge she said stoped when I took out the condom was in her hand she said it got off I don't know how the fu** that happen but man is the serious whole day I was feeling uneasy I am so sacred she I was so down after that seh got it too she said don't worry nothing will happen in bar at cc only (waiting for my friend to come back) that girl cam again to me and said don't worry you will be fine but she is the last on I will believe.

[QUOTE=Eddy84]Yeah man doin dogge she said stoped when I took out the condom was in her hand she said it got off I don't know how the fu** that happen but man is the serious whole day I was feeling uneasy I am so sacred she I was so down after that seh got it too she said don't worry nothing will happen in bar at cc only (waiting for my friend to come back) that girl cam again to me and said don't worry you will be fine but she is the last on I will believe.[/QUOTE]Take a spelling class

[QUOTE=Country John]If you can raise $500,000.00 This week, then PM me.

Country John[/QUOTE]


I doubt it goes for that a much. This isn't housing in L.A. its a business in tj in a ratty hole area. But then I don't live there so I don't know. How do you know the price, by the way?



Eddy84

I really wouldn't worry about it too much. I've be concerned but not worried. People with HIV can have sex condomless and still not infect the other person. Look at Magic Johnson and his wife. She never contracted the disease from him. At least that's what I heard.

I had a condom break on me once with one of the chicas. She quickly got off me and changed the condom. So it was bare contact for about a second. And I really doubt that can cause infection in that amount of time. It can happen but not too likely. If you are really concerned then go talk to a doctor and have yourself tested.

For the CC veterans, is Corina back yet? Business has slowed down so much at CC; she'll probably work at AB when she retuens to TJ.

Saturday night around 10:00 the place was picking up nicely but a lot of bored chicas as well as guys cruising through without spending a dime. A few new chicas and dancers along with ling time vet dancer Jackie who works the suspended ring nicely.

$3. beer & water. My gin and tonic was $4. Hard to find good gin in TJ but sometimes they turn out delicious at CC other times so, so.

Who else was there?

[QUOTE=Efjayel]I doubt it goes for that a much. This isn't housing in L.A. its a business in tj in a ratty hole area. But then I don't live there so I don't know. How do you know the price, by the way?
[/QUOTE]

I doubt it too. But it would be a good number considering all the normal stuff. The location is actually a plus. The liquor license is worth heaps.

I don't actually know the price, and I don't want to be outed to the mob by asking. I think I'm happy just to slip in for a beer or two every now and then.

I was there Friday night from 8 to 11:30 with my girlie. We had a great time. The Zona was like a ghost town. Never saw it so dead and devoid of gringo traffic. Very scary.

It seems this drug murder stuff really has a lot of people frightened. The long wait at the border doesn't help either.

Country John

Seems like week after week there are less long time regulars at CC. Some turn up at AB or HK but others seem to have "flown the coop" and are no longer in TJ.

If anyone spots any former CC chicas at other bars it would serve the CC mongering community greatly if they would report where the chica is now working.

I spotted Teresa (former CC) at HK last weekend and also spotted Jeny (CC) at AB. Then Jeny seemed to split as last week she wasn't at either bar.

Is this something you've noticed at other bars too? Or is it more like CC is getting hit worst by the drop in gringos?

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Seems like week after week there are less long time regulars at CC. Some turn up at AB or HK but others seem to have "flown the coop" and are no longer in TJ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Two Dollars]Is this something you've noticed at other bars too? Or is it more like CC is getting hit worst by the drop in gringos?[/QUOTE]

The BIG transition started the first of the year. The entire zona norte is in a state of major flux. Street Girls (not to be confused with street walkers) have left town or moved to the bars such as HK, AB or CC.

As far as the chicas switching bars, several left AB to go to HK and a lot left CC for parts unknown but CC has lost most of the regulars both chicas and clientes.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]The BIG transition started the first of the year. The entire zona norte is in a state of major flux. Street Girls (not to be confused with street walkers) have left town or moved to the bars such as HK, AB or CC.

As far as the chicas switching bars, several left AB to go to HK and a lot left CC for parts unknown but CC has lost most of the regulars both chicas and clientes.[/QUOTE]


To think, it was only a few years ago when CC was at the top, surpassing even AB.

I ended up in CC Friday night after a disappointing go w/a girl in AB. This was my second go through there that night. Not alot going on, and not many to choose from. A young, thin girl sat in a booth w/no sell. I saw a very petite, girl w/dark, short hair an tiny tits/ass that looked enticing when she snuck past me on her way to the dressing room. I waited for her to come out. When she did, she went right to a guy at a table. I was ready to leave and go back to AB for one last look, when I saw a young thing sitting at the long bar. She was medium height, thin, small perky tits, nice little ass; She had light skin and short, dark hair. I approached her and asked her to go upstairs.

Up in the room, she takes off her clothes to show off a nice little body w/no flaws. She was shaved, except for a small triangle just above her luv hole. After some brief, hugging/sucking, she applied the condom and did a nice cbj. I had to tell her to stop since I was already warmed up from the previous AB girl. She mounted me with some cg which took care of business. She seemed like she was enjoying it and continued to ride a while after the mission was completed.

Don't ask her name (I'm terrible with names and at this point of the evening, it was the least of my concerns). Jumped in a cab and back to the border. No cops hiding in the darkness, and a quick pass through the line.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]OWL sounds like the Maria I know and she has been at CC the past 3 weekends in a row. She has worked there a few years and takes vacations several times per year. About due for another most likely. Starts early like 7pm or so. Saw her go up with an Asian dude after a few drinks early a couple of weeks ago. Very unique chica. Doesn't look Hispanic really. Sweet and kind of shy or at least with me.[/QUOTE]I may be the asian dude. But, I think she told me she was from Vera Cruz? She always wears pants and usually a sweater? One kid. B cups. Very sweet, although shy at first, opened up in the room. I was looking for her last Thurs, but she was not around all night. Will check again this week.

On the other hand, I went with Karla, who is tall, thin, beautiful and has the best personality I have ever encountered down there. We were joking and kidding from the bar to the room and she was GREAT in bed too!

Now, I have two to choose from in CC.

[QUOTE=Samurai0907]I may be the asian dude. But, I think she told me she was from Vera Cruz? She always wears pants and usually a sweater? One kid. B cups. Very sweet, although shy at first, opened up in the room. I was looking for her last Thurs, but she was not around all night. Will check again this week.

On the other hand, I went with Karla, who is tall, thin, beautiful and has the best personality I have ever encountered down there. We were joking and kidding from the bar to the room and she was GREAT in bed too!

Now, I have two to choose from in CC.[/QUOTE]

Well, all I can say is you have GREAT taste in women albeit I've not tasted either. LOL... I knew Karla 6 years ago when she started dancing at Tropical, shortly after, she relocated to CC. Her half sister is Monse (Monserat). I liked their bods better before the breast augmentation but still to sweet hearts.

Maria seems rather stand offish toward me so I've never taken her up. Bought her a drink a year ago or so and took up one of her amigas a couple of times (Brenda de Chiapas now MIA). So last week I point blank asked Maria if she would just as soon I not ask her up (given her aloof behavior). Her reply was no problem she would go. I then tried to find out if she was just shy or felt uncomfortable around me. She said she felt comfortable. Could be she is VERY shy with some guys till she gets to know them. Extremely unique chica, Maria...

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Well, all I can say is you have GREAT taste in women albeit I've not tasted either. LOL... I knew Karla 6 years ago when she started dancing at Tropical, shortly after, she relocated to CC. Her half sister is Monse (Monserat). I liked their bods better before the breast augmentation but still to sweet hearts.

Maria seems rather stand offish toward me so I've never taken her up. Bought her a drink a year ago or so and took up one of her amigas a couple of times (Brenda de Chiapas now MIA). So last week I point blank asked Maria if she would just as soon I not ask her up (given her aloof behavior). Her reply was no problem she would go. I then tried to find out if she was just shy or felt uncomfortable around me. She said she felt comfortable. Could be she is VERY shy with some guys till she gets to know them. Extremely unique chica, Maria...[/QUOTE]I had the pleasure of meeting Brenda last saturday in Los Algodones at the Bar Olympico. She said she was from Veracruz and she had just arrived 6 days earlier from Chicago Club in TJ. Small spinner, 2 kids, and in her early 30's. Very nice lady and speaks english fairly well, I had a very nice time with her at the bar and upstairs.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Well, all I can say is you have GREAT taste in women albeit I've not tasted either. LOL. I knew Karla 6 years ago when she started dancing at Tropical, shortly after, she relocated to CC. Her half sister is Monse (Monserat). I liked their bods better before the breast augmentation but still to sweet hearts.

Maria seems rather stand offish toward me so I've never taken her up. Bought her a drink a year ago or so and took up one of her amigas a couple of times (Brenda de Chiapas now MIA). So last week I point blank asked Maria if she would just as soon I not ask her up (given her aloof behavior). Her reply was no problem she would go. I then tried to find out if she was just shy or felt uncomfortable around me. She said she felt comfortable. Could be she is VERY shy with some guys till she gets to know them. Extremely unique chica, Maria. [/QUOTE]Thank you. There are a few hotties in AB too, Miroslava and Alejandra, among the many hotties there.

Karla's boob job is great, I didn't even know she had one. They are soft and she has some nice, big nipples.

I can't believe you didn't go with maria, even after she said she was comfortable. I've been watching Maria for several months and either I had already gone or I too was a little hesitant due to her lack of interest. I wonder how any of these girls ever make a buck without being aggressive? During the week, I'm sure they rarely go up. I never go on weekends, so maybe they do all their biz then. She is a sweetie and I will look for her this week.

Called a new fave, Nancy, and arranged a TLN for Saturday. I finally had a free weekend and figured I'd have a little fun.

I figured I'd get down a bit early, grab a beer, possibly meet up with a friend, etc. Well, the best laid plans... There were 4, yes 4, separate incidents on the 5. Arrgh. Got to TJ almost an hour behind schedule.

I was suposed to meet Ms. N in front of CC at 5. So, I just made it there by 5. Of course, I guess I'll never get it through my head that the chicas operate on Mexican time. So, I had plenty of time to wander about and check out other places. Man, there are some scary girls who hang in front of the Monitos.

So, an hour late, Ms. N comes sauntering up at 6 with a sheepish grin on her face.

"Tienes un reloj?"

"No."

Then I pointed to her wrist. "Que es?"

She just smiled and told me it was a long way from her house. Not the greatest start. Oh, well...

I told her we needed a room and asked her if she had any suggestions. She said yes, and mentioned a hotel. I can't remember the name, but it's on Articulo 123, next to one called La Oficina, with loads of muy feo transgender ladyboys strolling around. Nice. Of course, it's a weekend and the guy insists on $50 for the night. Oh, well...

After a little kissy-face and hugs it's time to eat. On the way out her phone rings and she spends the next 30 minutes yakking with her comadre. Oh, well...

We take a nice long stroll to my favorite shrimp taco stand, but we got to it at 7. Actually, we got to where is WAS, as they put the whole thing away when they close. So, we stood there on the empty sidewalk wondering what to do. She decided she wanted mariscos. So, we flag a cab and she takes me to Negro Durazo by Plaza Rio.

Never been here before. It was packed. The Corona girls at the front door convinced me to drink Coronas for the rest of my life! I had some great chiles rellenos, she had 7 Mares. The food was pretty good. Biggest drawback was that they had an ear-splitting band playing on the stage. We were at the opposite end of the place and it was still too friggin' loud. About the time we'd finished they turned off the lights and the PPV Cotto/Margarito fight came on. Petty good fight. At the end, some drunk local kept shouting "Viva Tijuana, los cabrones!"

After the fight was over we opted to walk over to Plaza Rio and take in a movie.

We finally made it to the VIP entrance about 9:45 and decided to see Batman. Man, if Heath Ledger doesn't win an Oscar there is no justice.

After the flick I wanted to go have a drink. She suggested we go to Las Pulgas. OK. Never been. Get there about 12:45-ish and the place is packed. $8 cover. Wander all over the joint, finally find an empty table in the back of the last room. Order a bucket of beers.

She's very cuddly and affectionate, and even more so when you pour a few beers into her. She also loves to dance. So, dance we did. After the first bucket, and 1 tequila each, we move to the front room where they're doing more hip-hop/reggaeton. Another bucket. Lots more dancing. Oooh, do all the chicas love to get down! Lots of dirty dancing. Man, you should have seen all the girls cut loose when they played Culo. Holy shit. And Ms. N was right with 'em.

She polished off her half of the 2nd bucket, I couldn't do my last one. Never try to outdrink a bar girl! It was time to go. It was past 5am. We'd been going at it, almost non-stop, for almost 4 hours. I think I'm getting to old for this! :)

Had a couple of hot dogs out front and walked back to the hotel. I needed the fresh air.

Well, get to the room, take a shower and into the sack. MMM, lots of kissing and cuddling. Lots of DATY, 69, fair BBBJ skills. Covered CG and mish.

I finish up and am exhausted. It's now about 6:45 and she says it's time to go home!! WTF? (I was afraid of this, as she lives with mom and her 2 kids). We dozed for about 30 minutes, then she hopped up and said she had to go.

I figured I'd probably better go, too, as there was no point hanging about, I was too tired to go back to the zona, and the Sunday lines at the border get pretty stupid. So, I shower, dress and we check out. Arrgh!

BTW, I give her $170 for her time. I also told her next time we would get to bed a LOT earlier.

Anyway, the good outweighed the bad. She's a blast to hang around with, despite her virtually complete lack of English. I like small, brown girls anyway, and if they're cuddly and affectionate, well, what's not to like?

Got to the border about 8, was in the car by about 8:30. At my shop by about 10, where I had to replace the lower ball joints/control arms on my daily driver. Didn't get any sleep at all until that night. Man, I'm too old for this!!

So, on the PP scale, looks - 7.5, attitude - 10, performance - 8. A definite repeat.

PP

[QUOTE=GymDandy]I had the pleasure of meeting Brenda last saturday in Los Algodones at the Bar Olympico. She said she was from Veracruz and she had just arrived 6 days earlier from Chicago Club in TJ. Small spinner, 2 kids, and in her early 30's. Very nice lady and speaks english fairly well, I had a very nice time with her at the bar and upstairs.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of this bar, is it in Zona Rojo?

Nice one Fjord. What bar does this chica work at?

And your right about Heath Ledger. But I honestly think they'll just give it to him because he's dead.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Nice one Fjord. What bar does this chica work at?

And your right about Heath Ledger. But I honestly think they'll just give it to him because he's dead.[/QUOTE]

This is the Chicago Club thread. I'll let you guess where she works! :) :) :)

Actually, I originally put it in the story, but took it out again, so it wasn't clear.

Tues night at Chicago club saw 2 mongers and about 5 uglies who were sad looking in both meanings. Worst I have seen this place.

[QUOTE=Tjmee]I've never heard of this bar, is it in Zona Rojo?[/QUOTE]Hi Tjmee,

Los Algodones is a tiny border town located on the California border and the Colorada River 8 miles west of Yuma, Az. The Bar Olympico ( the locals call it "The Green Door") is one of two strip bars in this town. You just walk across the border and a very short block and a half and you are there.

By the way one of the regular girls there told me that there are a few new arrivals from TJ, but I didn't hear any names.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]I told her we needed a room and asked her if she had any suggestions. She said yes, and mentioned a hotel. I can't remember the name, but it's on Articulo 123, next to one called La Oficina, with loads of muy feo transgender ladyboys strolling around. Nice. Of course, it's a weekend and the guy insists on $50 for the night. Oh, well...[/QUOTE]Could it have been El Deseo? Interesting that she suggested this place since the neighborhood is pretty grim although it's probably the closest no tell motel to the zona.

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Could it have been El Deseo? Interesting that she suggested this place since the neighborhood is pretty grim although it's probably the closest no tell motel to the zona.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's it. Couldn't remember the name. Has little garages for your car, etc.

Pissed away $50, cuz we didn't get to make use of it. :(

I see a lot of good info in this thread about which girls to take upstairs, but not much about what happens on stage. I realize this guide is about sex and not about stripping, but I don't know where else to go for advice.

I'm looking for a girl-girl sex show in Tijuana. Are there any clubs with hot young women doing nasty things on stage? Any other forum you can point me to for better info?

Sorry for the off topic post, and any suggestions are appreciated.

[QUOTE=Mr Troll]I see a lot of good info in this thread about which girls to take upstairs, but not much about what happens on stage. I realize this guide is about sex and not about stripping, but I don't know where else to go for advice.

I'm looking for a girl-girl sex show in Tijuana. Are there any clubs with hot young women doing nasty things on stage? Any other forum you can point me to for better info?

Sorry for the off topic post, and any suggestions are appreciated.[/QUOTE]

HK or Hong Kong bar has a girl/girl with shaving cream show nightly. Last time I was there the shows were at 8pm and 12am. Often there are three a night. I suspect the actual time depends on the amount of business, girl availability, and night of the week. Ask the doorman and he'll let you know. Definitely get there before 8pm for the early show. HK is in the Alley, it is one of the big three of clubs.

I like HK over the other places because it is more like a nightclub/strip bar. The difference is of course you can take the dancer next door and do the dirty deed with her.

From your post we see that you are new, welcome.
I don't know if you've been to TJ before or not but it's a good idea read this forum before you go. I did and it helped me immensely. That’s not to say I didn’t make some mistakes along the way but it did cut out a lot of newbie, bonehead moves. The one that is a must is Brockton O'Tool's TJ Guide. It is listed along with the other threads under the TJ listing.

This is a forum of information exchange. So please go to TJ, watch a lez show, find a young hottie and have sex with her, then come back and let us know how it went.

Be safe and have fun.

My TLN with a HK fave fizzled about 11:00pm, when we found out that the babysitter flaked. Arrgh!

So, to ease the pain :) I wandered over to CC, expecting to find another favorita propping up one end of the bar. Unfortunately, she was a no-show. Double-arrgh!

I sat at the bar, ordered a beer and waited around a while, just in case she was in the ladies room, or something.

I was going to head for home. I wasn't too horny any more, cuz my HK fave and I had already had a marathon session prior to dinner and dancing. I'd decided to finish and leave when I was approached by Mary de Guadalajara.

I don't get to CC (or TJ for that matter) as much as I'd like, so I'd never seen her before. She's about 5' 4", flaca, morena, about 30. Longish black hair pulled back, C+ naturals, funny makeup with that stupid outline around the lips like the cholas used to wear. Figure about a 6.5 on the PP scale. Her biggest problem is that she LOVES to talk, at about 90 miles an hour. I couldn't tell if it was natural, or chemically induced. :)

She plopped down next to me and started in with the standard battery of questions. She seemed nice, if a little odd. She was playing with a little rolled-up slip of paper that turned out to be a ficha. As far as I could tell, it was her only one of the night. It was now past 1:00am, so biz must've been really slow. She asked me to buy her a tequila. I told her I was waiting for an amiga, but that didn't deter her much! :) So, I relented.

While she quaffed her tequila, she started to play some goofy hand game. The object was to hold my palm very close to hers, but not touching, and move my hand in circles. Now my Spanish is about on the level of a developmentally disabled kindergartener, but if it's not too noisy, and if they speak rather slowly, I can usually get the gist. But Hablas mas despacio wasn't in her vocabulary. So, to this day I still don't understand the object of that silly game.

When I tired of that nonsense, she had the waiter hand her a video game mag from behind the bar. For the next 20 minutes I was regaled by various intracacies of all the leading video games, all delivered in machine-gun Spanish. Whee! :) She has 2 kids, not sure of the ages, so I suppose she really does have lots of direct experience.

It's now obvious that my favorita ain't gonna show. My beer is about 3/4 gone. I'm still unsure about this one, but her eccentricities have piqued my curiosity. I'm mired in indecision when she asks for another drink. I hesitate, as I'm not sure I want to blow a bunch of money on fichas. She sees this and says "No ficha." "No ficha?" This is a first. "Si, no ficha." OK, this I gotta see. So she calls Chuy, orders a chica beer and, when he comes over and starts to write out the ficha she tells him the same. He looks at her rather oddly, then charges me $4.

As I finish my beer she gets more cuddly. She turns around and grinds her ass against my crotch a few times. She likes to unbotton my shirt, then unzip her top and do bare chest hugs. Funny. After playing with the twins a bit, some panocha fondling and some kisses and nuzzles, I figure she's passing the squeeze test. It's time for another beer, so I get one. She wants another, "No ficha." Why not?

After a little light dancing and more canoodling I figure, oh well, how bad could it be? She's been whispering that I can have everything, she will take a shower, etc., etc. I touch my tongue, then touch her panocha. She says OK, she'll take a shower, I will like, no like, no pay. So, for the acid test I casually wonder how much all this bliss will cost.

$60 is her reply. OK. She's realistic so I don't have to laugh in her face, but I ain't gonna pay retail, either. I apologized, said it was late and that I was poor. I told her I didn't have $60. To prove it, I pulled out my spending roll.

I pulled out a $5 and said "Taxi." She grabbed it, grabbed my glasses case, folded up the bill and tucked it inside, thus sequestering it. Nice touch.

Then she pulled out $12 and set it aside and said "For hotel." OK. That left $46 or $47. I held it up, she counted it and said "OK." Ahh, Mexico. Gotta love it. (Later, in bed, she playfully called me mentiroso for telling her that that was all my money. I had my other stash in my passport, but she never saw it. But, I guess she must've known somehow.)

A couple more sips and it's off to the hotel with the remainders of our beers.

We get settled, she flips on the TV to the porn channel, then INSISTS she undress me. I'm always a bit embarrassed by this, but she's adamant. After underssing, she asks where my money is. I figured she was asking for payment up front, a big no-no in my book. I told her it wan in my pants. But she grabs my shirt, then grabs my glasses and pants. She puts the glasses in the shirt pocket, pulls my (soon to be her) money out of the pants and puts it in the shirt, then grabs my passport and puts it in the shirt. Then rolls it up, stands on the bed and puts it on top of the TV. Weird. All the time she's saying "Listen to me," then rattling off, in Spanish, how this was much safer in case somebody popped in unannounced and tried to swipe my pants. Strange. Appreciated, but strange.

She pops into the shower and starts to scrub out her panocha. I join her, she soaps up my hand and then has ME clean it. I'm trying to be gentle, she just says "dos dedos!" and pushed, rather roughly, two of my fingers in and proceeds to show me the right way to wash a panocha!

We retire to the bed. She's been yakking non-stop since we got into the room, and I'm despairing of ever getting her to shut up. I had one last trick up my sleeve. I pushed her down onto her back and started a bit of light DFK. Hmm. Then, some sucking and nibbling of her nice brown nips, and she's a lot quieter and moaning softly. A few more kisses and I head south. No problems except that the panocha hair area could have been a bit more fragrant. But the panocha itself was very clean, and I helped! :D

So, the key to peace and quiet turned out to be DATY. She really got into it, with soft moans, graduating to louder moans. Then "Que rico!" and "Oooh, papi." Then, towards the end, it was grab the back of my head, pelvis pounding up and down, and "Suck my pussy!" over and over. About 2 minutes from an earth-shattering orgasm, the guy knocks on the door. :angry: She just yells "nos vamos" or something, and keeps bucking. She finally cums, and I realize we'd been at it for about 20 minutes. They guy knocks again, she yells something else. She grabs the condom, and proceeds to do CBJ. I asked about BBBJ, but no dice. After a minute, she hops on for CG. We turn over for a couple of minutes of perrito, then I want to finish in mish. Panocha was tighter than I though it would be. Things were rushed, but we got the job done.

I collapse, panting, on the bed. She jumps up, stark nekkid, opens the door and shouts something to the guy. Then she drags me off to the shower to clean up. And the talking machine starts up again!

We clean up, then she insists on helping me get dressed. Then, after we're all cleaned up and presentable, she lays down on the bed and wants to chat a bit! I figure the towel guys are going to have a coronary, bust down the door, call the cops, something. But, they don't. So, as far a I can tell, I was lectured on how expensive it is to live in her neighborhood. The light bill, the $200/month rent, the crappy landlord, etc., etc. I could only make out about every fifth word, so I could be mistaken.

I drain my beer and am getting really nervous about the time nazis. So, I say it's time to leave. We leave, the towel guy wants a tip. Shit. I gave ALL my money to her, forgetting to save $1. I did feel bad this time, as we had the room for over 45 minutes. I pulled out my pocket lining and told him I was sorry. I asked her for $1, but she wasn't biting.

We stood in the hallway in front of reception while she gave me her phone number. Now she's really cuddly and keeps telling me that she likes me. I finally get the number straight (it's her house). She insists that I call it, so I do, then she speaks to her daughter. The I have to speak to her daughter. Then she has some business with the lady running the clothing kiosk, so I say goodbye and go find a taxi to the border.

Phew, what an interesting end to the evening.

In summary, Looks: 6.5, Performance: 7.5, Attitude: 10 (if you like chatterboxes)

Like I say, attitude is everything!

She's got it.

Frick'n knock came like a thief, fuckers.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]She puts the glasses in the shirt pocket, pulls my (soon to be her) money out of the pants and puts it in the shirt, then grabs my passport and puts it in the shirt. Then rolls it up, stands on the bed and puts it on top of the TV. Weird. All the time she's saying "Listen to me," then rattling off, in Spanish, how this was much safer in case somebody popped in unannounced and tried to swipe my pants. Strange. Appreciated, but strange.[/QUOTE]Does that actually happen? Somebody breaking in while you're banging a chica and then running away with your pants. That would be absolutely hilarious and infuriating at the same time.

Great report, btw.

Phordphan,

Are you sure this wasn't Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara?

[QUOTE=Marvin]Phordphan,

Are you sure this wasn't Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara?[/QUOTE]

Can't say. I don't know Norma, and I'd never seen Mary before, either.

Their names do change a lot. Can you describe Norma?

Decided to play hooky on Tuesday, but I was on a pretty tight budget. I texted my CC fave, Nancy, tiny brown spinner, and arranged to meet around noon on La Revu. She was amenable.

Well, best laid plans, and all that. I didn't get there until 1:15. That's OK, I guess, cuz she didn't show until 1:45. Mexican time, gotta love it!

So, we started the day an hour behind schedule. I eschewed the Espana and opted for a room at Caesar's. They remodeled it a few years back, and it's fairly nice. The non-AC rooms are $35, the AC rooms are $40. It wasn't too hot, so a fan-only room served the purpose.

We checked in, found the room, and relaxed for a bit. She was all over me, hugging, cuddling, kissing, shoulder/back massage, etc., etc. What's not to like? Eventually she said she was thirsty. So, I tried to get her to get her shoes on and we'd go get a drink. She did manage to get as far as close to the door, then she sat on my lap and started the whole thing again. I finally told her to choose, bebidas o sexo. She just grinned. So, fine! I pulled off her clothes and went to town!

I asked her how many orgasms she wanted today. She giggled and said 20. :) I told I'd try, but...

We got busy. She loves cuddling and fondling, and she likes kissing but she has an odd DFK technique. Lots of lip biting. She loves having her boobies played with and being sucked on, so accomodating her was the least I could do! I finally worked my way down to the panocha to get things jump started.

After 15 minutes or so I started getting a stiff neck. I stopped and inquired about the number of orgasmos. Dos. OK, Let's switch. She sat on my face and we resumed. Tres mas orgasmos later, we'd both had enough. More cuddling ensued, with her whispering sweet nothings in my ear. Then she sat up and begain to administer a really fine BBBJ. It's not the best ever (that's reserved for a chick I used to know in Cambodia), but it's certainly in the top 10. So, I let her continue for about 5 or 10 minutes. Then it was time for the main event. She grabbed my condom and popped it on like a pro (well, I guess she is!). I didn't feel like dragging things out any longer, so we went straight to mish. For a mom with 2 kids, she has a pretty tight panocha.

We finished up, had a brief nap, then cleaned up a bit. After this, we were both really thirsty. So, off to the bar.

We went down the street to the upstairs joint with the mechanical bull. Forget the name. I swigged down three Pacificos, she had 2 Sols. She had the camarones al mojo de ajo, which were very good. I had the nachos, which weren't. :angry: She has the uncanny ability to always pick the most expensive thing on the menu. I wonder how that works? :)

I like sitting above Revu, sipping a cold one and watching TJ go by. Among other people, we saw her brother the cop. He walked under us a couple times, but we couldn't get his attention. I asked her if her brother was a ratero. She old me that ALL cops were rateros!

So, after finishing the food and beer, I was considering another one. I asked her if she wanted more cerveza or more orgasms. She just smiled and waved her hand towards the hotel! Vamanos!

BTW, the place charged me for a couple too many beers. It wasn't worth the headache over about $2, but I probably won't go back.

I was afraid that not enough time had elapsed between round 1 and round 2, but, time was getting a bit short, and I gotta hold up my end! So, back to the room and back to business. Like BGs the world over, she loves to turn on the TV whenever she walks into a room. I'm getting used to screwing with a telenovela playing in the background! :eek:

Act 2 begain much like Act 1. Lots of cuddling, kissing and massage. I got the pump primed by having her assume the position astride my face. Two Os later, I flipped her on her back and really went at it. She started cumming rapid-fire. She finally grabbed my head and made me stop.

OK. How many?

No se, cinco?

I pointed out that this only totalled 11, and we had 9 more to go! She just giggled and demurred. No mas! :)

Now it was my turn. Lots more BBBJ, very nice. :brows: But when it came time for the main event, I knew I was in trouble. Between the short interval, the 3 rapid beers and the condom, things just weren't working out. She did a very enthusiastic CG, we did doggy and, finally, mish. But, no dice. So, being the trouper she is, she dispensed with the party hat and finished things up manually.

Immediately after blowing what load I had left, she kept stroking. Then she grinned and asked "Cuanto mas?" then started giggling and pumping faster. I had to wave my hands and tell her no more! :)

Well, it was getting late and I had to get going. So, we cleaned up and checked out. I walked her all over the joint until we found the bus stop. Put her on her bus, then I found a Taxi Libre and headed for the border. Got there about 7:45 and was across well before 8. Loads of car traffic, but nobody in the pedestrian line.

So, a good time was had by all. It set me back the price of the room ($35), food and beers ($35), $80 for her and $5 for the bus (friggin' driver didn't have change for a $5).

That's all... Nothing else of any interest...

Does any one know the blond Jessica and her sister?

They say she is from Senora or Sinaloa?

[QUOTE=Phordphan]

That's all... Nothing else of any interest...[/QUOTE]

Hey PP did you hit 'block sender' on your Email?

Sorry gang...

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Hey PP did you hit 'block sender' on your Email?

Sorry gang...[/QUOTE]

No, not intentionally. Is that an option? Did you get a bounce message?

I sent you an e-mail this evening. Did you get it?

I'm sorry, too, folks... :)

I'd make some Haloween joke about CC, but none needed. This place is dead! I went in around 8:30 and their were 7-10 girls and 0 mongers other than me! Seen it like than on a Tuesday. But never on a weekend.

Sorry to hear one of the older decent meseros died right in front of the club on Halloween night of all things.. Juanito, didnt use him much since I had other regular meseros, but I do remember him always coming up and shaking my hand. RIP

Somehow the club hasnt closed due to low monger population like La Tropa seemed to have. Most of the time pretty slow though a few like Estefani still hang around there at night.

Karla the dancer from Mazatlan came back surprisingly early and she looked nice especially with her hair back to dark. Still fairly empty most of the friday night. AB was packed most of the night, lots of curves :)

Thurs night was a surprise lot more chicas later on then I would have thought, pretty dead though often more girls then guys..
remember seeing..

Sara
Estephani
Naomi (blond one)
Grecia
Pearla
Nirvana (dancer)
Nancy
Corina
Jessica
Crystal
Nadia

No Karla though crying02.gif

My wingman settled on a alleygirl outside for 300 pesos.. SG Violeta was back out there and looking nice showing her belly though she seemed to have switched to Mini Hotel.

HK had alot of chicas too and business was good there. The downslide of the economy seems to have made alot of chicas come back out of retirement and cut vacations short. :)

Dont know why this Wednesday so many dancers showed up, my dancer friend was a little irked that there were about 13 other dancers in the lineup even though they started late like 10:15pm or so and she didnt dance till like 1:30 am. First dancer was fat Annie ugh momentum killer. They pretty hung out behind the curtains in makeup room for most of the night most didnt really take the floor till after 11:30 or so when there were only like 10 guys around. Of the new meseras in street girl costumes only one looks cute. Sonia was there smile.gif when she wasnt arriba'd. Couple of other CC dancers I saw working at AB now also.

Saw dancing Wed night
Karla
Diane
Estefani
Frieda
Naomi (blond one)
Perla
Nirvana
Marvella
Ana Ruiz?
Grecia
Corina
Annie wacko.gif

Anybody seen Norma from Puerto Vallarta/Guadalajara lately? Long time vet, but haven't seen her the last couple times I've been down.

Pretty quiet Easter week, hopefully this weekend more chicas will come back from vacation. Good side is with the club so dead its a buyers market for sure in CC and AB... No 20 minute knocks even in AB heh.

Not that many guys on Fri night... fairly empty no prob getting seats. AB was more packed so a little tougher to get seats though alot more chicas especily the silicon or saline kind. Pretty so so dance lineup at CC, lot of dancers went to HK I guess and couple of newer dancers like flaca Karen wasnt allowed to dance. AB's Danielle de Monterrey was working in CC for some reason.. she looked nice in the green dress and with stilt dancer heels she towered over most of the patrons.

Still a buyers market even at AB and CC and most chicas are giving pretty good service for $50-60 and even on weekends at AB you get the 25-30 min without the dreaded ripoff 20 min knock and alot of CC chicas go even 35-45 min.(till second or third knock)

Even the alleys had a good number of streetgirls last night, alot better than last week.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Not that many guys on Fri night... fairly empty no prob getting seats. AB was more packed so a little tougher to get seats though alot more chicas especily the silicon or saline kind. Pretty so so dance lineup at CC, lot of dancers went to HK I guess and couple of newer dancers like flaca Karen wasnt allowed to dance. AB's Danielle de Monterrey was working in CC for some reason.. she looked nice in the green dress and with stilt dancer heels she towered over most of the patrons.

Still a buyers market even at AB and CC and most chicas are giving pretty good service for $50-60 and even on weekends at AB you get the 25-30 min without the dreaded ripoff 20 min knock and alot of CC chicas go even 35-45 min.(till second or third knock)

Even the alleys had a good number of streetgirls last night, alot better than last week.[/QUOTE]Hey I poked my head in and did spot the vixen in the green.

What is she like in bed?

About 50% of the normal Sat night crowd at CC HK and AB. CC kinda slow but the chicas mostly seemed there, Monse, Karla, Sara, Frieda, Stefany, Naomi, former Sampson girl Yoko... 1 chica there seemed new she had kinda nice natural big tits, small hips, long dark hair and a little blue dress but she left with her friend the spinner old chica with the big fake boobs who works day shift at 9pm though :( . It wasnt Lorena who is built like that but has bolt ons.

AB was busy though not the usual standing room only for a Saturday night. No longer 2 or 3 to 1 girls to guy ratio though in the clubs like earlier in the week since the flu scare might be dying down. Still a buyers market in the clubs and streets and was a great weekend for me... pretty much no hassle getting great service from chicas hungrier then normal for business.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]About 50% of the normal Sat night crowd at CC HK and AB. CC kinda slow but the chicas mostly seemed there, Monse, Karla, Sara, Frieda, Stefany, Naomi, former Sampson girl Yoko... 1 chica there seemed new she had kinda nice natural big tits, small hips, long dark hair and a little blue dress but she left with her friend the spinner old chica with the big fake boobs who works day shift at 9pm though :( . It wasnt Lorena who is built like that but has bolt ons.

AB was busy though not the usual standing room only for a Saturday night. No longer 2 or 3 to 1 girls to guy ratio though in the clubs like earlier in the week since the flu scare might be dying down. Still a buyers market in the clubs and streets and was a great weekend for me... pretty much no hassle getting great service from chicas hungrier then normal for business.[/QUOTE]

Clarification of the supply v demand shift.
SW 15 - 20?
Hotel 3 -5?
CC ?? - ??
AB ?? - 60?
HK ?? - 60++??
Hotel 12

Is HK the best deal in Zona Roja Amsterdam at 80?+++ drinks?
or
CC & AB coming second at 60 ?
or
SW at 18?

Buyers and supply down. No noticeable price shift.

[QUOTE=Sound7]Clarification of the supply v demand shift.
SW 15 - 20?
Hotel 3 -5?
CC ?? - ??
AB ?? - 60?
HK ?? - 60++??
Hotel 12

Is HK the best deal in Zona Roja Amsterdam at 80?+++ drinks?
or
CC & AB coming second at 60 ?
or
SW at 18?

Buyers and supply down. No noticeable price shift.[/QUOTE]I'm under the impression that how the price works is this: The clubs take a standard of $20. 30 cut (estimated). And the ladies are left with whatever is left. It's not a 50% split. Therefore, you pay $60. She nets $40 after she pays the club.

So even if the economy stalls to a standstill, at a certain price the ladies are doing it for free after the hotel takes its cut.

So even if it's really bad, the ladies will never take less than $50 from my experience. It's just the floor price.

Could someone confirm this? I'll ask a couple of ladies and see what they say. Keeping in mind that they could have a pre-fabricated story to work on our sympathy.

[QUOTE=Jackie888]I'm under the impression that how the price works is this: The clubs take a standard of $20. 30 cut (estimated). And the ladies are left with whatever is left. It's not a 50% split. Therefore, you pay $60. She nets $40 after she pays the club.

So even if the economy stalls to a standstill, at a certain price the ladies are doing it for free after the hotel takes its cut.

So even if it's really bad, the ladies will never take less than $50 from my experience. It's just the floor price.

Could someone confirm this? I'll ask a couple of ladies and see what they say. Keeping in mind that they could have a pre-fabricated story to work on our sympathy.[/QUOTE]

I've never heard of this in a TJ bar. Vietnam, yes. TJ, no.

Unless things have drastically changed at CC, management's rule was 2 fichas before an arriba.

HK demands 10 fichas before arriba. AB is similar.

Over the last few years I've become friends with girls from HK and CC. None have ever mentioned having to split their earnings with the club.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]I've never heard of this in a TJ bar. Vietnam, yes. TJ, no.

Unless things have drastically changed at CC, management's rule was 2 fichas before an arriba.

HK demands 10 fichas before arriba. AB is similar.

Over the last few years I've become friends with girls from HK and CC. None have ever mentioned having to split their earnings with the club.[/QUOTE]

Chicas split the drink money you spend with the bar about 50/50 so a chica gets 3-4 bucks for every typical chica drink you buy for her at most bars.

If the Chicago Club chica doesnt have the fichas (tickets the chica gets when you buy a drink for her that they cash in at the end of the night) during the night to cover her arribas she has to pay the bar the 2 fichas price. Sometimes if the bar 'penalizes' a chica for not showing up on the required # of weeknights or fighting with another chica or whatever by charging her a 3rd ficha per arriba. Usually a chica takes home less then 50 of a $60 arriba after paying the 2 ficha charge and tipping the coat checker, hotel timekeeper, and maybe someone else in the locker rooms/ladies rooms, sometimes the door guy.

Alot of CC and AB bargirls now will go for $50 arribas if you bargain or are halfway nice on a slower night. They figure taking home 40 is better than zero or a couple of $3-4 drink tickets. CC has little or no daytime girls but AB in the day does have a few desperadas that sometimes will settle for $40 arribas. A nighttime AB girl that offers $40 is usually not a chica I'd want to fuck unless really horney and hard up for cash or drunk.

I am not sure how AB charges their girls since many nights getting a table to drink with a chica is pretty difficult. Many chicas prob dont get close to 10 drinks a night, Im sure they get charged some way out of their arribas for not getting the drinks.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]CC and AB bar girls now will go for $50 if you bargain or are halfway nice on a slower night. They figure taking home $40 is better than zero or a couple of $3-4 drink tickets. AB in the day does have a few desperadas that sometimes will settle for $40. A nighttime AB girl that offers $40 is usually not a chica I'd want to fuck unless really horny, hard up for cash, or drunk.[/QUOTE]Thanks much for the update on current prices Belgrath. That tracks with my experience for the vast majority of the girls. I can add that the hottest trophy fuck girls at the Adelita Bar and Hong Kong Club will all take $60. Things are so slow these days I don't even bargain in the club. I just say vamanos and once we get upstairs I hand them $60 up front. (I know some guys think paying in advance is unwise. I respectfully differ.) The girls always take the cash without objection. After the session some will ask for a tip. If the girl did a good job I might give her an extra $5. But I won't fork over more unless the girl truly went above and beyond the call of duty (bareback blowjob, come on face, deep french kissing etc.)

Bunky

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Chicas split the drink money you spend with the bar about 50/50 so a chica gets 3-4 bucks for every typical chica drink you buy for her at most bars.

If the Chicago Club chica doesnt have the fichas (tickets the chica gets when you buy a drink for her that they cash in at the end of the night) during the night to cover her arribas she has to pay the bar the 2 fichas price. Sometimes if the bar 'penalizes' a chica for not showing up on the required # of weeknights or fighting with another chica or whatever by charging her a 3rd ficha per arriba. Usually a chica takes home less then 50 of a $60 arriba after paying the 2 ficha charge and tipping the coat checker, hotel timekeeper, and maybe someone else in the locker rooms/ladies rooms, sometimes the door guy.

Alot of CC and AB bargirls now will go for $50 arribas if you bargain or are halfway nice on a slower night. They figure taking home 40 is better than zero or a couple of $3-4 drink tickets. CC has little or no daytime girls but AB in the day does have a few desperadas that sometimes will settle for $40 arribas. A nighttime AB girl that offers $40 is usually not a chica I'd want to fuck unless really horney and hard up for cash or drunk.

I am not sure how AB charges their girls since many nights getting a table to drink with a chica is pretty difficult. Many chicas prob dont get close to 10 drinks a night, Im sure they get charged some way out of their arribas for not getting the drinks.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely correct. So, if I'm going to arriba, I always make sure I buy the chica 1 or 2 ficha drinks, just to minimize the financial impact on her. Well, that and it helps to get to know them a bit better.

But the original supposition that the chicas have to split their arriba fees with management is, techncally, incorrect. But, as you said, the tips for the doorman, coat check girl, various and sundry leeches, all take a bite.

Who is the good looking thick waitress that works at Chicago? My friend got her #.

[QUOTE=Bunky] I just say vamanos and once we get upstairs I hand them $60 up front. (I know some guys think paying in advance is unwise. I respectfully differ.) The girls always take the cash without objection. After the session some will ask for a tip.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Very well, differ. I'd like to hear the advantages of paying in advance.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]
I am not sure how AB charges their girls since many nights getting a table to drink with a chica is pretty difficult. Many chicas prob dont get close to 10 drinks a night, Im sure they get charged some way out of their arribas for not getting the drinks.[/QUOTE]
I was told AB has a tiered structure.

It's something like: (note each typical drink is worth 2 ficha tickets)

If a girl goes arriba 0-1 times during the night she needs 4 ficha tickets in hand but will be paid out 30 pesos per ticket.

If she goes arriba 2-3 times during the night she needs 12 ficha tickets.

If she goes arriba more than 3 times she needs 20 ficha tickets.

If a girl is short on the number of tickets needed, she needs to pay FULL price for the ficha ticket from the bartender, but gets 30 pesos back per ticket. So a girl is out 60 pesos (at 12-1 exchange) per ficha ticket she buys.

Chicago pays the girls the most per ficha ticket in the Zona at either 40 pesos or $4 per ficha (unclear).

Hard to see they would agree to extra activities for a tip before the deed unless loaded. Real value for a prepaid service and wait for extra activities to start. Surprise ! Bingo.

By definition a tip.

S7

[QUOTE=Bunky]Thanks much for the update on current prices Belgrath. That tracks with my experience for the vast majority of the girls. I can add that the hottest trophy fuck girls at the Adelita Bar and Hong Kong Club will all take $60. Things are so slow these days I don't even bargain in the club. I just say vamanos and once we get upstairs I hand them $60 up front. (I know some guys think paying in advance is unwise. I respectfully differ.) The girls always take the cash without objection. After the session some will ask for a tip. If the girl did a good job I might give her an extra $5. But I won't fork over more unless the girl truly went above and beyond the call of duty (bareback blowjob, come on face, deep french kissing etc.)

Bunky[/QUOTE]

I was in Tijuana last weekend. It seemed pretty slow with both Gringo's and ladies of the evening.

I went to Chicago Club just for a look see about 10PM Saturday night.

I was pleasntly surprised. There were 4-5 very doable ladies in there, and one who was DDG. Alas the Gringo that was with her didn't move.

One of the dancers came over to my table and forgot to put her top on. I bought her a drink, and we played with each other for a while. She finally asks me if I want to go arriba. I ask quanto? She comes back with $70.00. I just laughed, and she said, "You don't think I'm worth $70.00? " When I said "No", she was p*ssed and took off.

Anyway I haven't seen that many doable ladies in Chicago for about a year. All-in-all the club was still very slow, although it was nice to easily find a place to sit.

Be happy.

Lately on evenings theyve been having some Puerto Vallarta dance group perform Hawaiin type show there though I guess friday is caribean night and sat international night (whatever that is). About three of the girls are fairly cute and trim though I dont know if they even will drink with you afterwards.

[QUOTE=Supersteve]
...
One of the dancers came over to my table and forgot to put her top on. I bought her a drink, and we played with each other for a while. She finally asks me if I want to go arriba. I ask quanto? She comes back with $70.00. I just laughed, and she said, "You don't think I'm worth $70.00? " When I said "No", she was p*ssed and took off.

Anyway I haven't seen that many doable ladies in Chicago for about a year. All-in-all the club was still very slow, although it was nice to easily find a place to sit.

Be happy.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like it might have been Frieda.. she often doesnt fully dress after her strip act. She prob would have gone up for 60. Dont ever ask a chica how much cause she'll always shoot for the moon. Ie HongKong girls often say 80 or 100 if you ask them though often times theyll accept 60 or less, name your price first if you know what the going rate is already and start the negociations at a lower starting point.

I go often enough, once or twice a month, that most of the ladies know my mug. This is the first time that anyone has quoted me over $60.00. It could be because I no longer go to CC much, ande she tought she had an old f*rt sucker.

I appreciate the way you negotiate, but for me if they start above $60.00 I don't want to be with them anyway, they would probably be a poor session anyway. One of the more infamous ladies at a different club will tell you, "You pay me what you think it is worth, $30.00-$40.00, let's don't talk about money." It is one of my ways to find out something about them. I don't think it really matters if I start with a price, or they do, I'm the one with the money, so I have the power. If the lady won't go for whatever price I think is fair for what she brings to the table, I can always say NEXT! I could really care less about where she starts, becasue I know where I will end.

I appreciate you response.

Health & happiness to all.

Hi guys,
Anybody know if Karla is still in VeraCruz? She was a nice lady.

She used to sit at the end of the bar. On the right hand side as you walk in. She got there fairly early maybe 630 or so.

man

[QUOTE=Supersteve]I go often enough, once or twice a month, that most of the ladies know my mug. This is the first time that anyone has quoted me over $60.00. It could be because I no longer go to CC much, ande she tought she had an old f*rt sucker.

I appreciate the way you negotiate, but for me if they start above $60.00 I don't want to be with them anyway, they would probably be a poor session anyway. One of the more infamous ladies at a different club will tell you, "You pay me what you think it is worth, $30.00-$40.00, let's don't talk about money." It is one of my ways to find out something about them. I don't think it really matters if I start with a price, or they do, I'm the one with the money, so I have the power. If the lady won't go for whatever price I think is fair for what she brings to the table, I can always say NEXT! I could really care less about where she starts, becasue I know where I will end.

I appreciate you response.

Health & happiness to all.[/QUOTE]

she says 70 or 80, I say "for 1 hour?" :)
so far with most of my regulars at CC Ive pretty much lately been getting 40 -45 min on a 30 min arriba, at least 2 or 3 knocks. HK has been tougher getting a chica to go past 30 min and a 1/2 hour arriba... think the hotel and club staff are tougher on the chicas or something.

[QUOTE=ManWithStamina]Hi guys,
Anybody know if Karla is still in VeraCruz? She was a nice lady.

She used to sit at the end of the bar. On the right hand side as you walk in. She got there fairly early maybe 630 or so.

man[/QUOTE]

Her amiga Letty who also arrives early and sits up front told me a week ago that Karla was still South but may be back in a week or 2. She would be the person to ask as they are roomates.

Yes, great chica. Miss her smile.

Thanx for the update. I do not know Letti. Guess I could find out though.
Thanx again.

man

Copy and paste this into Google Earth to find the door to Chicago Club:

32°32'17.63"N, 117° 2'19.80"W

Guys,

I'm going to be in SD for business this week and plan to visit the Windy City. Been there many times and have indulged with various talent.

I'm thinking about indulging with a MILF I have seen there on many occasions. I have spoken with her in the past but do not know her name. I know that she is Colombian. She has brown shoulder length hair and is thin. Looks to be in mid to late 40's. She's worked at this club for some time.

Any one have info on her. Is she worth the trip upstairs. My gut tells me she will be good. One of those classic providers that knows how to seduce a guy and keep him coming back vs the trophy mechanical ho's.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

They seem to be building a smaller circular stage I guess for weekend nights they might have 2 dancers going at once. Pretty slow most of the time and a buyers market so that you can get some hungry chica to perform better than usual often. Even AB on weekdays can get slower then before.

Found this picture of Chicago Club.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Pretty slow most of the time and a buyers market so that you can get some hungry chica to perform better than usual often.[/QUOTE]Stopped into the Chicago Club about 11:00 p.m. on Saturday the 8th. Was surprised to see most of the booths full. To my eye there was only one girl worth a second young -- a young spinner who looked almost Asian. But as so often happens at the Chicago Club she had settled into a booth with three guys and there was no telling how long she'd be tied up. Apparently there is some segment of the Zona Norte customer base that enjoys just sitting and drinking with the girls, and the Chicago Club seems to be their preferred spot. If you enjoy that type of thing, good on you. But I'm looking to go upstairs and I'm not willing to sit around while the handful of hotties sit with guys for who knows how long.

Anyone know if Myra has been back working?

She's kind of average chica in her 30's ut super cool. Just curious.

Yeah there is one chica that does have asian blood Liselle? Says shes half Japanese she didnt seem to be able to speak it. Guys seem to like her service though I go to TJ for latinas otherwise Id go to Pattaya if I wanted to bang asians.

Was upstairs last night and actually got kind of an early knock maybe 25 minutes and the guy seemed more persistant than normal. Usually we go 3 knocks and nearly 40-45 min for a 1/2 hour arriba. My girl even said bullshit on the first knock and my friend seemed to get quicker knock then normal too that night there. The Jalos hotel was nowhere near full, been there in years past where on weekends there you had to stand in line in the hall till a room got free. Hope they dont start doing that early knock bs like AB and HK used to do before the recession. CC was good for extra long sessions and chilling afterwards with the lady.

The food at Capones next door seemed to be going downhill again, for a month or so it seemed to get better with the taller guy running it now a shorter guy seems to run it with a fat lady and it sucks again.

[QUOTE=Wazup]Anyone know if Myra has been back working?

She's kind of average chica in her 30's ut super cool. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

The only Myra I know hasn't worked at Chicago since last year but moved over to Tropical. She speaks perfect English having lived in California in her youth but she is not upper 30's closer to 23 years old if that. Very pretty, light complexion, too much eye make up and shapes micro thin brows too much.

Grate chica though.

[QUOTE=Wazup]Anyone know if Myra has been back working?

She's kind of average chica in her 30's ut super cool. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

I know a Myra from Mexico City that has brownish hair that speaks very good english and has a passport to the US. She is in her upper thirties and has been at Chicago Club a long time.

Went down last weekend, and wanted to do something different from hong kong. I went arriba with Gloria, a girl next door type. She was dressed in street clothes, which was hot to me for some reason.

Great girl, smooth skin, and very nice.

I will repeat.

Dylan

[QUOTE=Dylan]She was dressed in street clothes, which was hot to me for some reason.

[/QUOTE]

I LOVE this.....! Gives the illusion like she could be just "anyone." Not a puta in a puta bar.

CC

[QUOTE=Dylan]She was dressed in street clothes, which was hot to me for some reason.[/QUOTE]

It was hot because it was different. In an area where most girls are showing a lot skin, the one that doesn't stands out. If you're in a place where all girls are in street clothes, the one girl wearing the slutty outfit stands out. Well at least that's my impression.

Also, I've always been into that average yet cute girl next door look. Selma Blair comes to mind. :)

[QUOTE=Efjayel]It was hot because it was different. In an area where most girls are showing a lot skin, the one that doesn't stands out. If you're in a place where all girls are in street clothes, the one girl wearing the slutty outfit stands out. Well at least that's my impression.

Also, I've always been into that average yet cute girl next door look. Selma Blair comes to mind. :)[/QUOTE]

I was there on Monday night and there was a smoking hot new girl there. Tall with a great body. First she was in a hot bikini and the bikini bottoms were booty shorts. I was with another chica when she got up to dance and wanted to switch. After she danced she went to the back room and came back in street clothes -- a nice tight fitting pinkish tank top and a denim miniskirt. Totally hot . She looked like she should be shopping at the Fashion Valley Mall instead at the door. Unfortunately, she made a bee line toward the door before I could grab her.

CC will always seem to have a girl or two in street clothes and it is definitely a treat.

Marvella was back, got a little fat though boobs were bigger. Alejandra has nice boobs now, Monse (tall Monse who is karlas sister) was back too along with Kennedy. Theyve added a few new girls though with few guys not sure if most will leave soon. Violetta, Roxie and something else are pretty cute light skinned tall chicas though flat. Marisol is a hot morena though little sharky and no boobs also. There was a hot tall blond former of HK, Lucinda though she might have gone back to HK or AB.

they need drink specials like dollar beer night on WEd and thurs or something though.

[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]I LOVE this.....! Gives the illusion like she could be just "anyone." Not a puta in a puta bar.

CC[/QUOTE]Well, I'm no noob at this, but I did have to ask her over a fischa,

"Hey Gloria, ...you workin' tonight?"

I knew she'd be fun arriba by her immediate, smiling response:

"Si, workin' wit' chyou on de bed!"

I actually laughed out loud. There's nothing better than a puta with a sense of humor...not to mention COMEDIC TIMING...!

[QUOTE=ManWithStamina]Hi guys,
Anybody know if Karla is still in VeraCruz? She was a nice lady.

She used to sit at the end of the bar. On the right hand side as you walk in. She got there fairly early maybe 630 or so.

man[/QUOTE]

Back this week and needing some dinero.

About 11 at night or so they had some sort of promotion going on for Mexican independence day (earlier this week) with a mariachi band on stage and a couple of dancers passing our free shots of tequila. Think they raffled off a bottle of Patron though I wasnt around then.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]About 11 at night or so they had some sort of promotion going on for Mexican independence day (earlier this week) with a mariachi band on stage and a couple of dancers passing our free shots of tequila. Think they raffled off a bottle of Patron though I wasnt around then.[/QUOTE]

I was there last night for this. It is some sort of DJ set up on the smaller back stage and then the promise of a banda, a raffle and shots of tequila later. The cards on the tables and in the bathroom said they' be doing this on Sept 17, 18, 24, 25.

Since I don't have a car this trip I'm taking the Trolley to TJ and had to get back early so I started my time in the zona earlier. I was actually surprised to see so many chicas and hombres already in Chicago early. Sometimes you roll in there at 9pm and it is deader than a doornail.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]

Since I don't have a car this trip I'm taking the Trolley to TJ and had to get back early so I started my time in the zona earlier. I was actually surprised to see so many chicas and hombres already in Chicago early. Sometimes you roll in there at 9pm and it is deader than a doornail.[/QUOTE]

How early did you go?

[QUOTE=Migrant One]How early did you go?[/QUOTE]

I got to the zona about 6pm and played with some girls at AB and HK and then hit Chicago about 8pm. Maybe it was the special event last Thursday and Friday but the girls all came into Chicago at about 8pm.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]I was there last night for this. It is some sort of DJ set up on the smaller back stage and then the promise of a banda, a raffle and shots of tequila later. The cards on the tables and in the bathroom said they' be doing this on Sept 17, 18, 24, 25.
....[/QUOTE]

hmmm hopefully they will repeat the free tequila shots again thurs and fri though last time they didnt really start till like 11pm or so..

[QUOTE=Super Gato]Chicago is almost certainly dead during the week. Not worth the walk over. On the weekends is it definitely better.[/QUOTE]

Thurs nights are not bad sometimes after 10pm or so. Earlier that that is more of a bargin hunting time and sometimes you can find diamonds in the rough at the various clubs during weekdays or afternoons when most chicas at AB and Chicago are pretty hungry and willing to be bargined down since it is a buyers market in the zona except for HK.

Actually chicas coming up to you and being aggresively after you is not what I like. Usually its the sharks, chicas wanting Meth money, and the fuglies that do that. You look for the shy new girl or cutie hanging back who might smile at you or reserved chica who is looking but not rushing everyone with a dick.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]Chicago is almost certainly dead during the week. Not worth the walk over. On the weekends is it definitely better.[/QUOTE]

On a weekend i've walked into CC only to find some music playing in the background and literally nobody inside. I could have gone behind the bar and start making my own drinks. If there was no music, I would have probably heard crickets instead. I just walked out.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]On a weekend i've walked into CC only to find some music playing in the background and literally nobody inside. I could have gone behind the bar and start making my own drinks. If there was no music, I would have probably heard crickets instead. I just walked out.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've done the same. I wonder what would happen if one DID go behind the bar and start mixing themselves a drink?? :D

Chicago club is always dead in the daytime, pretty much kinda busy only on Thurs Fri Sat nights after 10pm which is way past most gringos bedtimes...

It doesnt take much to get the chicas and meseros to know you and treat you well since its so slow most of the time. The other night I dropped a camera in booth in the club and a mesero brought it to me later ( I did give him a nice tip for his honesty).

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Chicago club is always dead in the daytime, pretty much kinda busy only on Thurs Fri Sat nights after 10pm which is way past most gringos bedtimes...

It doesnt take much to get the chicas and meseros to know you and treat you well since its so slow most of the time. The other night I dropped a camera in booth in the club and a mesero brought it to me later ( I did give him a nice tip for his honesty).[/QUOTE]

Last night Chicago was doing pretty well when I rolled up around 11pm. A good six chicas that matched my standards but many were already with dudes who seemed more interested in buying them drinks than going upstairs.

As I was done with my mongering by 10 PM this past Friday October 2, 2009, before I retired to my room at Hotel Leyva, I just wanted to get a bit of fresh air for a while.

So I stood infront of Hotel Leyva on the sidewalk (where the Taxi's park) and observed a surprising amount of gals (with their catch in tow) headed upstairs.

I was very taken by the good looks of many of the gals. I did not actually go inside CC partley out of fear that I would spend my last hundred on me - so I just observed.

I also have many, many fond memories of CC back in the day (I could write a book). Too bad it is now just a shadow of its former glory.

The Tall Man

Yum, Estefani and her magical big big tits were back Thurs night kinda hot and cold attitude wise otherwise she'd be a favorita but her tits and figure are super hot... now if I could only transplant her brain with one of the less attractive (and less expensive though GFE service) girls like Nelly heheh...

Anyone have info on Joana at the Chicago Club?

Anyone have info on Joana at the Chicago Club? Does she do any BBBJ or BBFS? I have pictures for private showing.

Looks like no one is interested in Joana. Luna at CC is a better provider.

Not sure who Joanna is... Luna, and Nelli are pretty good service wise though Luna has a hairy bush if that turns you off and kinda raspy voice.

CC had cards saying they were doing a 'foam show' this Friday and Saturday late night like 10pm or so, some of the chicas do foam sometimes anyways.. Maybe they are bringing outside talent for the show. Promo card had a blond but CC has no blond dancers since Naomi left their pretty small stable.

I normally hang out on the Mexicali board because I lived there for 6 years up until the end of July this year. Last Saturday morning (Oct 17), I was sitting at home watching the boob tube when my friend, Jorge called me and said "Lets go to Tijuana!" I told him that he knew that I have a big fear of going their because the last time I was there about 2 years ago there was a major cartel shoot out in front of me as I was driving to the Zona Norte that scared the sh*t out of me. And I swore that I would never return.

Jorge is an architect where I live in California, is from Peru and I have known him and partied with him for over 20 years. He told me that he would drive and that there would be no problem and basically he talked me into going.

We arrived in the afternoon and ate lunch and began to roam through the different clubs that I had not been in for about 2 years. Some things never change.

We ended up at the CC and Jorge started chatting with one of his old flames. Up walks a pretty decent looking gal and tells me her name is Luna. I am a 62 year old gringo that learned to speak Spanish while living in Mexicali. When in Mexico I try to not speak at all in English. I buy Luna a drink and we proceeded to chit chat. She then says in Spanish "By the way, I am bi-sexual!" A light suddenly lit in my brain and I told her that I was going to give her a treat. That she should pick out any of the girls in the club and we will go have a threesome. Her eyes lit up and a giant grin came to her face. She said "Really?" I said to choose one.

Now I have been in a lot of threesomes in my life, especially in Mexicali, but never when one of the gals was bi-sexual. One of the items on my Bucket List had been to do a threesome with at least one of the gals a bi-sexual.

She picked out a young innocent looking blonde named Melanie. And away we went. They charged me double for the room upstairs, but I didn't care! Melanie entered the bathroom to wash her pussy and when she closed the door, Luna immediately dropped my pants and proceeded to give me a great BBBJ. She stopped just before Melanie came out of the bathroom.
At this point, Luna put a condom on me, we took off our clothes and layed down on the bed. Luna started to approach Melanie’s pussy and Melanie closed her legs. She said “What are you doing. I’m here for the pleasure of this man.“ Luna said “No! You are here for both of us!” Melanie asked me if that was true and I told her yes and she opened her legs for Luna to perform DATY on her. Melanie enjoyed it so much that she had the wettest pussy that I have ever touched!

It was definitely a one of the best experiences that I have had. I will leave out the details but I think that you can all picture what happened. We were in the room for well over an hour without a knock and after it was all done, I gave them $60 each, went downstairs, bought them each a drink and then hit the other joints with Jorge. By the way, Luna did not have a hairy bush!

This week I learned that I had to go to Mexicali this weekend to meet with my attorney (I am going through a Mexican divorce with my bit*h of a Mexican wife). I called Jorge and said “Let’s go to Tijuana this Friday (Oct 23). I said that we would go in 2 cars, leave my car in California, spend the night and then Saturday he could drive me across the border and then I would drive to Mexicali. We set our plans in motion and I sent a text message to Luna that I was going to be in TJ on Friday. She sent me a text back and asked if we could do another threesome. I replied with a yes! I told her in the message that I would not wear underwear if she agreed to be without hers also.

During the week, Jorge recruited 2 more of our old time partying buddies and yesterday (OCT 23) we headed for TJ. We arrived about 2 PM, had lunch and then roamed through some of the clubs in Zona Norte. When we entered the CC, Luna greeted me with a grin and pointed out a girl dancing at the pole and said that we were going to do our threesome with her. I checked Luna’s ass out and sure enough she was naked underneath her very short skirt. When the gal finished her dance, she sat down with us and said that her name is Joanna.

We had a couple of tequilas each and headed upstairs. We disrobed and Luna immediately put a condom on me. I learned later by chatting with Luna that she only does BBBJ when there is not another girl present. This time it was better than before. Another session of a little over an hour. We went downstairs to have a couple more drinks. Sitting at the bar with them, I realized that I had not paid them anything. I told them that I felt bad and gave them $60 each. They said that they knew that I would eventually realize that I had not paid them and make things good. I have been with a lot of working girls in my life, but this has never happened before. They didn't ask for their money or anything!

My buddies and I got really drunk last night. Luna pulled me up to the pole to dance with her and the next thing that I know, there were 3 gals sticking dollar bills in my shorts and trying to pull them down! Last night was one of the best nights that I have had in a really long time.

We got up this morning, had breakfast and headed across the border. I am sitting here in my hotel room in Mexicali as I write this. I am about to hit the streets of Mexicali right now!

Sorry that this report is so long, but wanted to include as much as I could.

This is one of the rare report on threesome in the TJ thread lately I am aware of the TJ safety concern you have indicated in the past. Glad you were able to address it to enjoy a threesome in TJ.

Thanks for sharing the details.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo]I normally hang out on the Mexicali board because I lived there for 6 years up until the end of July this year. Last Saturday morning (Oct 17), I was sitting at home watching the boob tube when my friend, Jorge called me and said "Lets go to Tijuana!" I told him that he knew that I have a big fear of going their because the last time I was there about 2 years ago there was a major cartel shoot out in front of me as I was driving to the Zona Norte that scared the sh*t out of me. And I swore that I would never return.

Jorge is an architect where I live in California, is from Peru and I have known him and partied with him for over 20 years. He told me that he would drive and that there would be no problem and basically he talked me into going.

We arrived in the afternoon and ate lunch and began to roam through the different clubs that I had not been in for about 2 years. Some things never change.

We ended up at the CC and Jorge started chatting with one of his old flames. Up walks a pretty decent looking gal and tells me her name is Luna. I am a 62 year old gringo that learned to speak Spanish while living in Mexicali. When in Mexico I try to not speak at all in English. I buy Luna a drink and we proceeded to chit chat. She then says in Spanish "By the way, I am bi-sexual!" A light suddenly lit in my brain and I told her that I was going to give her a treat. That she should pick out any of the girls in the club and we will go have a threesome. Her eyes lit up and a giant grin came to her face. She said "Really?" I said to choose one.

Now I have been in a lot of threesomes in my life, especially in Mexicali, but never when one of the gals was bi-sexual. One of the items on my Bucket List had been to do a threesome with at least one of the gals a bi-sexual.

She picked out a young innocent looking blonde named Melanie. And away we went. They charged me double for the room upstairs, but I didn't care! Melanie entered the bathroom to wash her pussy and when she closed the door, Luna immediately dropped my pants and proceeded to give me a great BBBJ. She stopped just before Melanie came out of the bathroom.
At this point, Luna put a condom on me, we took off our clothes and layed down on the bed. Luna started to approach Melanie’s pussy and Melanie closed her legs. She said “What are you doing. I’m here for the pleasure of this man.“ Luna said “No! You are here for both of us!” Melanie asked me if that was true and I told her yes and she opened her legs for Luna to perform DATY on her. Melanie enjoyed it so much that she had the wettest pussy that I have ever touched!

It was definitely a one of the best experiences that I have had. I will leave out the details but I think that you can all picture what happened. We were in the room for well over an hour without a knock and after it was all done, I gave them $60 each, went downstairs, bought them each a drink and then hit the other joints with Jorge. By the way, Luna did not have a hairy bush!

This week I learned that I had to go to Mexicali this weekend to meet with my attorney (I am going through a Mexican divorce with my bit*h of a Mexican wife). I called Jorge and said “Let’s go to Tijuana this Friday (Oct 23). I said that we would go in 2 cars, leave my car in California, spend the night and then Saturday he could drive me across the border and then I would drive to Mexicali. We set our plans in motion and I sent a text message to Luna that I was going to be in TJ on Friday. She sent me a text back and asked if we could do another threesome. I replied with a yes! I told her in the message that I would not wear underwear if she agreed to be without hers also.

During the week, Jorge recruited 2 more of our old time partying buddies and yesterday (OCT 23) we headed for TJ. We arrived about 2 PM, had lunch and then roamed through some of the clubs in Zona Norte. When we entered the CC, Luna greeted me with a grin and pointed out a girl dancing at the pole and said that we were going to do our threesome with her. I checked Luna’s ass out and sure enough she was naked underneath her very short skirt. When the gal finished her dance, she sat down with us and said that her name is Joanna.

We had a couple of tequilas each and headed upstairs. We disrobed and Luna immediately put a condom on me. I learned later by chatting with Luna that she only does BBBJ when there is not another girl present. This time it was better than before. Another session of a little over an hour. We went downstairs to have a couple more drinks. Sitting at the bar with them, I realized that I had not paid them anything. I told them that I felt bad and gave them $60 each. They said that they knew that I would eventually realize that I had not paid them and make things good. I have been with a lot of working girls in my life, but this has never happened before. They didn't ask for their money or anything!

My buddies and I got really drunk last night. Luna pulled me up to the pole to dance with her and the next thing that I know, there were 3 gals sticking dollar bills in my shorts and trying to pull them down! Last night was one of the best nights that I have had in a really long time.

We got up this morning, had breakfast and headed across the border. I am sitting here in my hotel room in Mexicali as I write this. I am about to hit the streets of Mexicali right now!

Sorry that this report is so long, but wanted to include as much as I could.[/QUOTE]

Great report Joe Arturo.

My wingman got BBBJ from Luna and Joana does BBBJ and BBFS.

Joe the Luna that the others are talking about does not sound like the Luna you are speaking of. I had a grand experience with her a couple of weeks ago with Luna and there was no hairy bush and no raspy voice, my experience was so good I would like to wake up a few times beside her in my home. She was a sensuous lady with sparkling eyes and a long beautiful full head of hair, she suduced me like the amateur I am. She was an amazing woman who gave me one of my best experiences in Tijuana. Thanks for the info because I know what Luna and I are going to be doing the minute I get to Tijuana in December. Thanks for the great report Joe, sorry you had the bad experience a couple of years ago but that must have been a fluke as I have never had even one bad experience other than one american who ripped me off for $100. Once and I blame myself for that.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo]I normally hang out on the Mexicali board because I lived there for 6 years up until the end of July this year. Last Saturday morning (Oct 17), I was sitting at home watching the boob tube when my friend, Jorge called me and said "Lets go to Tijuana!" I told him that he knew that I have a big fear of going their because the last time I was there about 2 years ago there was a major cartel shoot out in front of me as I was driving to the Zona Norte that scared the sh*t out of me. And I swore that I would never return.

Jorge is an architect where I live in California, is from Peru and I have known him and partied with him for over 20 years. He told me that he would drive and that there would be no problem and basically he talked me into going.

We arrived in the afternoon and ate lunch and began to roam through the different clubs that I had not been in for about 2 years. Some things never change.

We ended up at the CC and Jorge started chatting with one of his old flames. Up walks a pretty decent looking gal and tells me her name is Luna. I am a 62 year old gringo that learned to speak Spanish while living in Mexicali. When in Mexico I try to not speak at all in English. I buy Luna a drink and we proceeded to chit chat. She then says in Spanish "By the way, I am bi-sexual!" A light suddenly lit in my brain and I told her that I was going to give her a treat. That she should pick out any of the girls in the club and we will go have a threesome. Her eyes lit up and a giant grin came to her face. She said "Really?" I said to choose one.

Now I have been in a lot of threesomes in my life, especially in Mexicali, but never when one of the gals was bi-sexual. One of the items on my Bucket List had been to do a threesome with at least one of the gals a bi-sexual.

She picked out a young innocent looking blonde named Melanie. And away we went. They charged me double for the room upstairs, but I didn't care! Melanie entered the bathroom to wash her pussy and when she closed the door, Luna immediately dropped my pants and proceeded to give me a great BBBJ. She stopped just before Melanie came out of the bathroom.
At this point, Luna put a condom on me, we took off our clothes and layed down on the bed. Luna started to approach Melanie’s pussy and Melanie closed her legs. She said “What are you doing. I’m here for the pleasure of this man.“ Luna said “No! You are here for both of us!” Melanie asked me if that was true and I told her yes and she opened her legs for Luna to perform DATY on her. Melanie enjoyed it so much that she had the wettest pussy that I have ever touched!

It was definitely a one of the best experiences that I have had. I will leave out the details but I think that you can all picture what happened. We were in the room for well over an hour without a knock and after it was all done, I gave them $60 each, went downstairs, bought them each a drink and then hit the other joints with Jorge. By the way, Luna did not have a hairy bush!

This week I learned that I had to go to Mexicali this weekend to meet with my attorney (I am going through a Mexican divorce with my bit*h of a Mexican wife). I called Jorge and said “Let’s go to Tijuana this Friday (Oct 23). I said that we would go in 2 cars, leave my car in California, spend the night and then Saturday he could drive me across the border and then I would drive to Mexicali. We set our plans in motion and I sent a text message to Luna that I was going to be in TJ on Friday. She sent me a text back and asked if we could do another threesome. I replied with a yes! I told her in the message that I would not wear underwear if she agreed to be without hers also.

During the week, Jorge recruited 2 more of our old time partying buddies and yesterday (OCT 23) we headed for TJ. We arrived about 2 PM, had lunch and then roamed through some of the clubs in Zona Norte. When we entered the CC, Luna greeted me with a grin and pointed out a girl dancing at the pole and said that we were going to do our threesome with her. I checked Luna’s ass out and sure enough she was naked underneath her very short skirt. When the gal finished her dance, she sat down with us and said that her name is Joanna.

We had a couple of tequilas each and headed upstairs. We disrobed and Luna immediately put a condom on me. I learned later by chatting with Luna that she only does BBBJ when there is not another girl present. This time it was better than before. Another session of a little over an hour. We went downstairs to have a couple more drinks. Sitting at the bar with them, I realized that I had not paid them anything. I told them that I felt bad and gave them $60 each. They said that they knew that I would eventually realize that I had not paid them and make things good. I have been with a lot of working girls in my life, but this has never happened before. They didn't ask for their money or anything!

My buddies and I got really drunk last night. Luna pulled me up to the pole to dance with her and the next thing that I know, there were 3 gals sticking dollar bills in my shorts and trying to pull them down! Last night was one of the best nights that I have had in a really long time.

We got up this morning, had breakfast and headed across the border. I am sitting here in my hotel room in Mexicali as I write this. I am about to hit the streets of Mexicali right now!

Sorry that this report is so long, but wanted to include as much as I could.[/QUOTE]

Great TR, keep it up!

Nelli (knows no English) is good for front door and back door.

Joanna is good for BBFS.

For some reason I cannot get my post to post. Anyway here is another try.

Nelli is good for front door and back door and Joanna is good for BBFS.

[QUOTE=Dornyone]Great TR, keep it up![/QUOTE]Joanna is good for BBFS. Nelli is good for front door and back door.

Great report, heh glad Luna did finally brought out the weed whacker. Seen her approach other dancers and do the eating or pretending to out on stage but never was sure if it was just an act or not like some girls do to try to turn on guys. One thing about the early shift girls is that since the club is so dead before 9pm (especially weekdays are especially dead) if you do find anything looking good enough to poke they will usually be pretty happy for any kind of business.

Stepped through the curtains about 10:30 last night, whereupon I noticed a tall, thin blond hottie collecting her things for the trip to the hotel next door. Been awhile since I've seen a chica of that caliber in the Chicago Club.

Inside it was moderately crowded, but still easy to find an empty booth. They've added a small circular stage between the main stage and the ladies room, and both were occupied by girls stripping. They weren't smoking hot, but they weren't bowsers either.

As usual the vibe was more sit-and-drink than hook-up-and-go-up, but I figured when in Rome. Settled into a booth with a girl who's name I've forgotten. She was a brunette who needed high heels to reach five feet tall, with medium length hair. From the neck up she had the perfect sweet innocent face of a teenage Valerie Bertinelli. But from the neck down she was a little butterball with spindly legs supporting a round torso.

Girl could drink some beer, but I didn't mind paying because she was a terrific kisser and I was willing to keep the brewskis coming as long as she had her tongue jammed down my throat the her hand between my legs.

Probably should have quit while I was ahead, but she was a sweetie and I didn't feel like wading into the scrum at the Adelita Bar. So after extracting a promise to blow me bareback we went upstairs.

In the room and out of her dress her figure was underwhelming. But you know the rule: Every girl looks gorgeous with your dick in her mouth. I stood next to the bed while she got comfortable on her stomach before going to work on Mr. Wood. She had that perfect golden smooth skin you only see on the youngest women, so looking down at her back and round little ass was nice indeed.

Didn't feel like rolling her over or putting on a condom so I just let her suck me off until I launched my load. She was quick to disengage, but I'm pretty sure I landed at least one spurt on her pretty little teenage face.

Afterwards she was pretty aggressive about asking for a tip. Uncool seeing as I'd put a pretty big dent in her ficha quota and she was a second tier girl who'd already been paid $60 for the session. But when she looked up at me with her giant brown eyes all I could think was I just blasted the face of Valerie Bertinelli. So I coughed up a ten spot.

I'd worked up an appetite so when I got downstairs I walked over to the taco stand at the southeast corner of Coahuila and Avenida Ninos Heroes. Two tacos con puerco, dressed con todo and a bottle of Coke for $3. Noticed a steady stream of cab drivers stopping to buy large orders. So I guess the locals know who makes the best tacos in the Zona Norte.

Regards,

Bunky

[QUOTE=Bunky]Stepped through the curtains about 10:30 last night, whereupon I noticed a tall, thin blond hottie collecting her things for the trip to the hotel next door. Been awhile since I've seen a chica of that caliber in the Chicago Club.

Inside it was moderately crowded, but still easy to find an empty booth. They've added a small circular stage between the main stage and the ladies room, and both were occupied by girls stripping. They weren't smoking hot, but they weren't bowsers either.[/QUOTE]

I've noticed a nice bump in the quality of girls there on the night shift on the weekends. I like having Chicago around with chica options as part of my rotation. That it is much more tranquilo than the Adelita and Hong Kong madhouses is a plus.

That small stage has been there a while. For their Independence Day fiestas they had set up a DJ on that stage. But most of the time there's a second string stripper working that pole. The main stage gets the first stringers.

After working my way through the other stations of the cross Sunday night I stopped into the Chicago Club about 10:30. It was very quiet, but not totally dead. The beer guzzling teenie who'd sucked me off the night before made a beeline for my booth, but I gave her the brushoff. Hitting that once was enough for me.

The lineup was undistinguished, save for a total hottie sitting at the main bar in the very same spot where the legendary Rosie held court 15 years ago. She was dressed to attract attention, wearing only a tiny pair of white boy shorts and a matching crop top that stopped about one-tenth of an inch below her tits. The outfit was designed to expose maximum skin and that suited her well because she had a perfect golden complexion and that unblemished sleekness that you only see on the youngest, freshest girls. She also sported a lean, toned torso that's either the product of great genetics or hours at the gym.

I'd say she was 5'4", maybe 105 pounds, with a cute face and nice smile. Definitely a first tier girl. Easily the equal of the top shelf chicas you'd see in the Adelita Bar or the Hong Kong Club. Girl knew how to work it as well. When she noticed me checking out the talent she got up from her seat at the bar and stood near the main stage in a spot where the lighting was brighter so I could get a good look at her. I noticed there were several other girls standing there as well. Perhaps that location is what passes for hottie central at the Chicago Club.

When my teen sweetie fixed with with a come fuck me look and a big white smile I knew I was locked in her tractor beam of hotness. Five minutes later we were upstairs and five minutes after that I was exploring her tight, tanned figure with my hands. Very, very nice tits. Perky and firm with tiny little stiff nipples. Standing next to the bed I turned her around and pulled her in tight. Her tits felt amazing under my hands, and it was great to press my bare cock up against her tight little ass.

The blowjob was covered and perhaps the slightest bit toothy. But watching this teen goddess slurping my schlong more than made up for any deficiencies in technique. There followed all the usual positions. Finished up in missionary so I could gaze into her gorgeous young face while my turgid member plowed her freshly shaved snatch. Definitely a nice way to end the weekend in advance of another week doing the bidding of The Man.

Her name was Marvella (Mar-VAY-ya) and the tariff was $70. I know that's on the high side of the Zona Norte pricing structure. But it was worth it to bang such a total trophy fuck who wasn't half bad in the sack.

Regards,

Bunky

It is good to finally see some Chicago Club reports on this site. You can read lots of negative reports about the CC on the Internet but it is my favorite TJ place. It is quiet so you can actually talk to the chica, hear her and build a relationship leading to BBFS.

[QUOTE=Saddle Back]It is good to finally see some Chicago Club reports on this site. You can read lots of negative reports about the CC on the Internet but it is my favorite TJ place. It is quiet so you can actually talk to the chica, hear her and build a relationship leading to BBFS.[/QUOTE]and AIDS, and just for kicks she'll throw in some herpes.

Any luck with the CC flight crew when they are leaving?

They sure look cute. Do they respond at that level ? Shift change at CC ? It is late when they leave.

My best experience has been with HK chica who was out the HK door and I asked if she had a second and that is all it took.

Something about CC chicas I just can't get my hands on.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

S7

[QUOTE=Saddle Back]It is good to finally see some Chicago Club reports on this site. You can read lots of negative reports about the CC on the Internet but it is my favorite TJ place. It is quiet so you can actually talk to the chica, hear her and build a relationship leading to BBFS.[/QUOTE]

If a CC chica likes you she will give you her cell number and expect you to text to establish a relationship of some type. Has anyone had any bad experience texting a chica?

[QUOTE=Saddle Back]It is good to finally see some Chicago Club reports on this site. You can read lots of negative reports about the CC on the Internet but it is my favorite TJ place. It is quiet so you can actually talk to the chica, hear her and build a relationship leading to BBFS.[/QUOTE]

One of my annoyances is that alot of times the music is blaring so loud you cant really talk to the chica without shouting. Even when theres only like 3 dudes who arent meseros in the place and no girl is dancing you have to move around the bar to find some place that doesnt give you a earache after awhile.

[QUOTE=Saddle Back]If a CC chica likes you she will give you her cell number and expect you to text to establish a relationship of some type. Has anyone had any bad experience texting a chica?[/QUOTE]I have never had a bad experience matter-of-fact I regularly get cell numbers from a few of my favorites at AB and HK. When I get a text from one of them during my work week, it is actually kind of fun as it takes my mind away, albeit briefly, from what maybe a boring day dealing with City agency people and engineers and the like. A smile comes to my face as I recognize the lady as she let's me know that she will be working a certain day, time, wants to see me and blah, blah, blah.

It could be problematic (note: BAD EXPERIENCE) if you have a wife or SO, inadvertently reading the text message, but I don’t so it is all in good fun.

About 7 or 8 years ago at CC I too had some favorites who I would meet up with on their time off in either TJ or San Diego. Wonder where those beauties are at today.

Be safe and enjoy,

The Tall Man

Chances are you are not the only one she is texting.
Much like you are not the only one she is sleeping with. Much like you are not the only one she is Barebacking with.........

Have fun

[QUOTE=Belgrath]One of my annoyances is that alot of times the music is blaring so loud you cant really talk to the chica without shouting. Even when theres only like 3 dudes who arent meseros in the place and no girl is dancing you have to move around the bar to find some place that doesnt give you a earache after awhile.[/QUOTE]

If it is empty and the music is too loud ask the mesero to have the DJ turn it down a bit.

[QUOTE=ManWithStamina]Chances are you are not the only one she is texting.
Much like you are not the only one she is sleeping with. Much like you are not the only one she is Barebacking with.

Have fun[/QUOTE]I found out she is barebacking at least 3 other guys, I am going to stop

Chicago had a banner up outside (pic attached) and cards on the tables advertising their upcoming "gangster style" anniversary party on November 20th. According to the banner, the party starts at 8pm and there will be a "special show" at 11:30pm. There's also a raffle for bottles of booze and or a girl (Not sure if that means the room, from the banner there's a privado certificate.

There are about 10 girls working at Chicago that pass the Supergato bangability test but there's some of the really ugly and old ladies working there too. I know not everyone shares my taste for 18-25 year old hotties and some like more mature women. One woman has to be 50 (or maybe younger but has lived a tough life. If Chicago is 38, she might have been working there on opening day). Unlike the jovencitas that don't pester you, these women wander around the club trying to sell themselves on your, just a drink, or just a dollar. Like ants at a picnic.

I momentarily fell in love with younger hottie Stefanie last night who was working the pole oh so well. I tipped her a few times but there was this Japanese or Japanese-American dude there that was calling her over all the time tipping six or more bills at a time (the closest I've seen to "making it rain" in Tijuana strip club). So she was more interested in him than me. Maybe I'll get her next time. My little friend from Sinaloa was able to console me though.

I found something in the Chicago Club tonight to replace Joanna. It is Jasmine (spelling may not be right). She is a tall thin dancer.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]Chicago had a banner up outside (pic attached) and cards on the tables advertising their upcoming "gangster style" anniversary party on November 20th. According to the banner, the party starts at 8pm and there will be a "special show" at 11:30pm. There's also a raffle for bottles of booze and or a girl (Not sure if that means the room, from the banner there's a privado certificate.

There are about 10 girls working at Chicago that pass the Supergato bangability test but there's some of the really ugly and old ladies working there too. I know not everyone shares my taste for 18-25 year old hotties and some like more mature women. One woman has to be 50 (or maybe younger but has lived a tough life. If Chicago is 38, she might have been working there on opening day). Unlike the jovencitas that don't pester you, these women wander around the club trying to sell themselves on your, just a drink, or just a dollar. Like ants at a picnic.

I momentarily fell in love with younger hottie Stefanie last night who was working the pole oh so well. I tipped her a few times but there was this Japanese or Japanese-American dude there that was calling her over all the time tipping six or more bills at a time (the closest I've seen to "making it rain" in Tijuana strip club). So she was more interested in him than me. Maybe I'll get her next time. My little friend from Sinaloa was able to console me though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the fuglie desperadas are a pain sometimes and I feel bad about shooeing em off but I'm not interested when younger hotter girls are around. One fat scary looking one me and my wingmen refer to as 'the battletank' and the really old one as 'Grandma'. Estefani is pretty hot and her big tits are to die for... unfortunately she knows it too well and can easily get bored with you but when she is in a good mood shes very charming and fun though not a 'Girl Friend Experience' service upstairs (YMMV). Remember chicas are always nice and smiley to dudes shelling out the money on the dancefloor, doesnt mean they like the 'chino' at all.

The chica of your choice or bottle of booze raffle should be interesting... hopefully the chica drawing isnt before 10pm since the trophy fucks like Karla dont show up till late alot of nights.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Yeah the fuglie desperadas are a pain sometimes and I feel bad about shooeing em off but I'm not interested when younger hotter girls are around. One fat scary looking one me and my wingmen refer to as 'the battletank' and the really old one as 'Grandma'. Estefani is pretty hot and her big tits are to die for... unfortunately she knows it too well and can easily get bored with you but when she is in a good mood shes very charming and fun though not a 'Girl Friend Experience' service upstairs (YMMV). Remember chicas are always nice and smiley to dudes shelling out the money on the dancefloor, doesnt mean they like the 'chino' at all.

The chica of your choice or bottle of booze raffle should be interesting... hopefully the chica drawing isnt before 10pm since the trophy fucks like Karla dont show up till late alot of nights.[/QUOTE]

I don't feel sorry for pushing the desperadas away. They probably get the bulk of their fichas and tips from nice guys that are too polite to tell them to buzz off.

I never expect GFE in Zona Norte but aim for more of an optifuck PSE. I'll have to give Stefani a try next time I'm there.

They like the "chinos" money and the fichas. There were some other Asian dudes there the other night that bought the flower peddler's entire bouquet for the girl at their table. Oh... to have more money than sense.

Nov 20 friday night I guess they are celebrating their birthday by raffling off bottles of booze and a free arriba with a chica of your choice. If I win the chicas will prob all hide in the ladies room.

"If I win the chicas will prob all hide in the ladies room."

Joanna said she was ready with BBFS for you. LOL

[QUOTE=Belgrath] Estefani is pretty hot and her big tits are to die for... unfortunately she knows it too well and can easily get bored with you but when she is in a good mood shes very charming and fun though not a 'Girl Friend Experience' service upstairs (YMMV). [/QUOTE]

[quote=Super Gato]I never expect GFE in Zona Norte but aim for more of an optifuck PSE. I'll have to give Stefani a try next time I'm there. [/quote]

I went to Chicago last night to see if I could get smothered by Stefani's tits and was not disappointed. As you said, she's not the most conversant girl in the world, and confessed to being shy while at the table, but she did let loose a little up in the room. She was pretty much all business and her job was to get me off. Which she did do. Total optifuck material.

The best part about hitting Zona Norte on a Thursday night is all of the A-list talent is working but the crowds of mongers are much smaller. When Stefani was dancing and that other Sinaloa chica on the second stage were dancing they actually cut their dances short because there weren't a lot of customers which was fine by me since it meant I could get Stefani upstairs faster.

Be carefull with this chica. I met one other guy getting BBFS from her. Both of us appear to have no problems yet but this is getting to be too dangerous.

I Went To Tj Wednesday And Headed For The Chicago Club To Do My Thing With Luna. At Chicago Club I Learned That Some Idiot (en Verdad Un Pendejo Sin Huevos) Had Told Luna About My Post On This Board. In All My Years Of Posting On The Mexicali Board, This Has Never Happened To Me. Some Creep Trying To Impress A Puta Telling Her About My Posting On This Board That Effected My Mongering!!!

I Have Always Been Under The Impression That Isg Is A Spot To Freely Post Information And Experiences To Enable Fellow Mongerers To Help Each Other Out With Information. This Week, I Learned That My Attempt To Help My Fellow Mongerers Effected My Own Mongering.

I Believe That This Will Be My Very Last Post On Any Of The Tijuana Boards.

Good Mongering And Good Luck!!!

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo]I Went To Tj Wednesday And Headed For The Chicago Club To Do My Thing With Luna. At Chicago Club I Learned That Some Idiot (en Verdad Un Pendejo Sin Huevos) Had Told Luna About My Post On This Board. In All My Years Of Posting On The Mexicali Board, This Has Never Happened To Me. Some Creep Trying To Impress A Puta Telling Her About My Posting On This Board That Effected My Mongering!!!

I Have Always Been Under The Impression That Isg Is A Spot To Freely Post Information And Experiences To Enable Fellow Mongerers To Help Each Other Out With Information. This Week, I Learned That My Attempt To Help My Fellow Mongerers Effected My Own Mongering.

I Believe That This Will Be My Very Last Post On Any Of The Tijuana Boards.

Good Mongering And Good Luck!!![/QUOTE]

There are some real idiots here, no doubt. Another thread has a similar story. I have no idea who these dweebs are trying to impress.

In the Adelitas thread right here in this forum there is a recent post from a monger that just told a HK girl about this sex forum, and she said she was going to check it out.

It happens, and it's probably best to post about a chica that you aren't currently seeing exclusively, or waiting to post your bit, so she can't tie it to you.

That shouldn't be so hard since most of these girls work a few months and then go back home, to only return later.

Who know why mongers tell working girls about sex forums? I seriously doubt it would help them in any way.

In my humble opinion it is totally inappropriate for someone to tell a chica what has been said on this forum. First of all it will corrupt the posts, who can know in the future if one of the women start posting. Whoever has done this, can you please be discrete with your the information you gain from here. This site is in my opinion is to help us mongers get a richer experience because of the experiences of others. The good we can repeat and the bad we can avoid. I appreciated your post and appreciated the info you shared as Luna was a great experience for me also. Please keep up the good posts and don't be discouraged by the mistakes of someone misguided.

[QUOTE=Pokey]In the Adelitas thread right here in this forum there is a recent post from a monger that just told a HK girl about this sex forum, and she said she was going to check it out.

It happens, and it's probably best to post about a chica that you aren't currently seeing exclusively, or waiting to post your bit, so she can't tie it to you.

That shouldn't be so hard since most of these girls work a few months and then go back home, to only return later.

Who know why mongers tell working girls about sex forums? I seriously doubt it would help them in any way.[/QUOTE]

Pretty empty crowdwise (not chicawise for me :) ) last night in CC, AB was down too though got more folks later. HK was fairly busy. Was interesting being about 6 girls to one guy at some points and chicas looking hungrily at my wallet in CC. :) Pretty much most of the dancers were there minus Alejandra. :( .... Saw dancing.. Karla, Estfani, Naomi, Marvella, Kennedy, Diana, Frieda.. Yatana, Deyanira, Nancy, Nelly even big tit Claudia and Ivonna were sitting around most of the night too. Somehow the fattest ugliest chica (Truckzilla) got a arriba from some dude when alot prettier girls were around.. WTF?

Nelly is the one I have been told is the best. Hope to try her soon.

[QUOTE=Derekj6926]In my humble opinion it is totally inappropriate for someone to tell a chica what has been said on this forum. First of all it will corrupt the posts, who can know in the future if one of the women start posting. Whoever has done this, can you please be discrete with your the information you gain from here. This site is in my opinion is to help us mongers get a richer experience because of the experiences of others. The good we can repeat and the bad we can avoid. I appreciated your post and appreciated the info you shared as Luna was a great experience for me also. Please keep up the good posts and don't be discouraged by the mistakes of someone misguided.[/QUOTE]
Don't you worry most of them can't speak English I very doubt they can read it!
Also not many people in Mexico or Latin America has internet access at their home they need to go to a cyber cafe and they have no time for that. they're busy working or with the 10 kids at home.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Pretty empty crowdwise (not chicawise for me :) ) last night in CC, AB was down too though got more folks later. HK was fairly busy. Was interesting being about 6 girls to one guy at some points and chicas looking hungrily at my wallet in CC. :) Pretty much most of the dancers were there minus Alejandra. :( .... Saw dancing.. Karla, Estfani, Naomi, Marvella, Kennedy, Diana, Frieda.. Yatana, Deyanira, Nancy, Nelly even big tit Claudia and Ivonna were sitting around most of the night too. Somehow the fattest ugliest chica (Truckzilla) got a arriba from some dude when alot prettier girls were around.. WTF?[/QUOTE]

Eye of the beholder, and all that...

One man's trash is another man's... you know the rest.

Club was enforcing a new no chica gets in after 9pm rule tonight and 4 dancers got told to go home.. few others couldnt make it on time and never showed which made the thin lineup of fuckable chicas even thinner prob only 7 - 8 chicas worth fucking thurs night. There were other less desirable chicas but no ones gonna want to hang around to see that unless bargain basement lots of extras arriba hunting. Just Estefani, Naomi, Marvella, Roxanna, Anna Ruth?, Frieda were around at night worth noting. Just fine the chicas a extra ficha for being late or something but dont send what scarce chicas worth at CC doing home!

They had about 4-5 new chicas tonight but only 2 were semi cute.. betcha all will be gone in a week or 2, The previous 6 new chicas in 2 batches of 3 chicas are all gone 4 weeks later. Club was fairly dead even for Thursday though HK was doing ok and even AB had 7x the chicas and guys.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Club was enforcing a new no chica gets in after 9pm rule tonight and 4 dancers got told to go home.. [/QUOTE]

As an early bird working stiff, I applaud this move on the part of management and would like to see it in effect at Adelita as well. Not all of us can party till 6 the next morning or even wait until 10:30 or later for some of the chicas to arrive.

Why exactly where they enforcing that 9pm rule? How would that benefit the bar, chica's or customers?

[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why exactly where they enforcing that 9pm rule? How would that benefit the bar, chica's or customers?[/QUOTE]

Simple. They are *supposed* to work an 8-hour shift.

Back in the day, the girls would come and go as they pleased. They'd show up, do an arriba or two, then go home. Of course, that left nobody in the bar when it got late.

So, they started enforcing the shifts and the bar had girls at all hours.

I understand why they are enforcing the rule; they're probably tired of missing out on any potential "early" trade. By early I mean from, say, 8 to 11.

It remains to be seen, however, whether or not it will backfire in this soft economy. Maybe all the chicas will get pissed off and move to AB or HK. But, as those two places are so different from CC, I think the chicas will just start showing up on time. AB's shifts are brutal, and the competition is fierce. HK requires the chicas to be a lot sleazier, and, again, the competition is fierce. So, unless they have the personality to work in a HK or AB, I think they'll just start showing up on time.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]Simple. They are *supposed* to work an 8-hour shift.

Back in the day, the girls would come and go as they pleased. They'd show up, do an arriba or two, then go home. Of course, that left nobody in the bar when it got late.

So, they started enforcing the shifts and the bar had girls at all hours.

I understand why they are enforcing the rule; they're probably tired of missing out on any potential "early" trade. By early I mean from, say, 8 to 11.

It remains to be seen, however, whether or not it will backfire in this soft economy. Maybe all the chicas will get pissed off and move to AB or HK. But, as those two places are so different from CC, I think the chicas will just start showing up on time. AB's shifts are brutal, and the competition is fierce. HK requires the chicas to be a lot sleazier, and, again, the competition is fierce. So, unless they have the personality to work in a HK or AB, I think they'll just start showing up on time.[/QUOTE]

The girls would be there at noon if that was when the guys are there.

They don't float in until later because that's when the guys show up. The guys don't show up earlier because a) mongering tends to be a nocturnal activity and b) there's no one there earlier (specifically with Chicago).

I'll usually skip the walk over to Chicago before 1030 or so because it there's no girls there. On some nights when I'll go to Chicago for a quiet drink in solitude, there are no customers and no chicas. And on nights when the A-list girls are there early they're bored to death because there's no customers to buy drinks or go arriba with. I've been there a few times when a girl like Stefani will go on stage to dance but will quit after one song because she's not making any money.

Chicago has a happy hour but they'd probably need to extend that until 10pm and promote that so that the early bird mongers know about it. Then the girls will be happy to show up because there would be guys there. If Chicago continues to punish the hot girls they do have with this shit, the girls will work elsewhere. In fact, I'd bet some of those turned away the other night didn't go home, but rather to another club.

I've had regulars that worked at the three major clubs. Some liked Chicago because it wasn't full of rules like AB and HK. My one amiga wanted to just drop in and work one night at AB but to work on Saturday, you have to work on Friday type things. And for a good looking chica at Chicago you can be a belle of the ball, whereas at AB you're just another one of many.

I like going to Chicago because it is more laid back and there's a few chicas I really like there but if they're chased away by the management, I'll go too.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]AB's shifts are brutal, and the competition is fierce. [/QUOTE]

I wonder how brutal they are? I've heard of chicas pulling 12 hour shifts there. I wonder if that is required if they only work 4 days per week. I believe they can take a couple of days off per week but the rule of having to work Friday in order to work Saturday most likely applies.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I wonder how brutal they are? I've heard of chicas pulling 12 hour shifts there. I wonder if that is required if they only work 4 days per week. I believe they can take a couple of days off per week but the rule of having to work Friday in order to work Saturday most likely applies.[/QUOTE]Sabes que Chicago sucks now all that drug dealining messed it up!

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I wonder how brutal they are? I've heard of chicas pulling 12 hour shifts there. I wonder if that is required if they only work 4 days per week. I believe they can take a couple of days off per week but the rule of having to work Friday in order to work Saturday most likely applies.[/QUOTE]

I've had several tell me of the 12 hours shifts. I used to know one who lived upstairs, and she told me she worked every day. :eek: She took off a day here and there. So, I assumed it was for 5, maybe 6 days a week. But that part was an assumption. If you have the option of working 3 or 4 days a week, then it wouldn't be so bad.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]The girls would be there at noon if that was when the guys are there.

They don't float in until later because that's when the guys show up. The guys don't show up earlier because a) mongering tends to be a nocturnal activity and b) there's no one there earlier (specifically with Chicago).

I'll usually skip the walk over to Chicago before 1030 or so because it there's no girls there. On some nights when I'll go to Chicago for a quiet drink in solitude, there are no customers and no chicas. And on nights when the A-list girls are there early they're bored to death because there's no customers to buy drinks or go arriba with. I've been there a few times when a girl like Stefani will go on stage to dance but will quit after one song because she's not making any money.

Chicago has a happy hour but they'd probably need to extend that until 10pm and promote that so that the early bird mongers know about it. Then the girls will be happy to show up because there would be guys there. If Chicago continues to punish the hot girls they do have with this shit, the girls will work elsewhere. In fact, I'd bet some of those turned away the other night didn't go home, but rather to another club.

I've had regulars that worked at the three major clubs. Some liked Chicago because it wasn't full of rules like AB and HK. My one amiga wanted to just drop in and work one night at AB but to work on Saturday, you have to work on Friday type things. And for a good looking chica at Chicago you can be a belle of the ball, whereas at AB you're just another one of many.

I like going to Chicago because it is more laid back and there's a few chicas I really like there but if they're chased away by the management, I'll go too.[/QUOTE]

I agree, and it's a chicken and egg thing. No chicas, no customers. No customers, no chicas. I don't blame management for trying to enforce some promptness, but they really have to hold up their end by convincing guys to wander across the street and spend money.

I remember when CC used to have a small but reasonable selection in the afternoons. Those were the days! :D And nights were SRO.

I really hated to see biz drop off the way it has, because it was my fave club out of the big 3.

[QUOTE=Loc Pep]Sabes que Chicago sucks now all that drug dealining messed it up![/QUOTE]It wasn't the drug dealing. It was because of bad management. CC came into new management a few years back and everything went down hill from there.

Maria has a killa smile.

Too bad she's not smiling in the photo.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]It wasn't the drug dealing. It was because of bad management. CC came into new management a few years back and everything went down hill from there.[/QUOTE]

I'm going over the books in my head, and I still can't figure out how this club stays open with its small clientele.

[QUOTE]Places that don't upgrade their facilities will run into the ground and close up, two years max. Other new bars are under construction. Hopefully even fancier than Hong Kong Club.[/QUOTE]I concur that the typical Norteamericano who visits the Zona Norte prefers a club with upscale facilities and furnishings to a dark dive bar like the Chicago Club.

But guys don't visit the Zona Norte for the decor. They come to get laid. And when it's time to head for the hotel they want to go with a hot girl.

I enjoy the Hong Kong Club as much as the next guy. But after I pay top dollar for my beer, fend off greedy waiters, and then cast my gaze upon a selection of underwhelming chubby girls interested only in my cash I sometimes think I'm in a San Diego strip club. I'd gladly give up the laser light show and futbol on the big screens in exchange for a better selection of girls.

Here's what I would do if I ran the Chicago Club. I'd spend a small amount of money to improve the abysmal lighting. Then I'd invest heavily in attracting the hottest girls.

I'd start by reducing the amount of money they have to kick back to the club by lowering the ficha quota and increasing their cut of the drinks they sell. I'd be more flexible about hours and shifts. For the stunners I might even consider paying them to show up, provided they agreed to stay in circulation instead of parking themselves at a table for hours. I suspect there are some gorgeous but mercenary girls who currently work at the Adelita Bar who'd jump at the chance to get paid to show up and who would not have a problem staying in circulation. Finally I'd improve the girls creature comforts to make their time at the Chicago Club as pleasant as possible.

I suspect the reason this doesn't happen is that the other club owners would have a fit. I theorize that even though they compete with each other to attract customers, they present a unified front in the battle between management and labor. Any owner who stepped out of line and started being nice to the girls would probably find himself the cynosure of opprobium.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Bunky]I concur that the typical Norteamericano who visits the Zona Norte prefers a club with upscale facilities and furnishings to a dark dive bar like the Chicago Club.

But guys don't visit the Zona Norte for the decor. They come to get laid. And when it's time to head for the hotel they want to go with a hot girl.

I enjoy the Hong Kong Club as much as the next guy. But after I pay top dollar for my beer, fend off greedy waiters, and then cast my gaze upon a selection of underwhelming chubby girls interested only in my cash I sometimes think I'm in a San Diego strip club. I'd gladly give up the laser light show and futbol on the big screens in exchange for a better selection of girls.

Here's what I would do if I ran the Chicago Club. I'd spend a small amount of money to improve the abysmal lighting. Then I'd invest heavily in attracting the hottest girls.

I'd start by reducing the amount of money they have to kick back to the club by lowering the ficha quota and increasing their cut of the drinks they sell. I'd be more flexible about hours and shifts. For the stunners I might even consider paying them to show up, provided they agreed to stay in circulation instead of parking themselves at a table for hours. I suspect there are some gorgeous but mercenary girls who currently work at the Adelita Bar who'd jump at the chance to get paid to show up and who would not have a problem staying in circulation. Finally I'd improve the girls creature comforts to make their time at the Chicago Club as pleasant as possible.

I suspect the reason this doesn't happen is that the other club owners would have a fit. I theorize that even though they compete with each other to attract customers, they present a unified front in the battle between management and labor. Any owner who stepped out of line and started being nice to the girls would probably find himself the cynosure of opprobium.

Bunky[/QUOTE]

A nice facility along with gorgeous Chicas with rooms that are clean with a nice shower with hot water in them is what I personally enjoy. I do love TJ and appreciate the businesses that do a good job such as HK, AB, and even the CC is decent, I must try Las Chevalia's to see what their rooms are like.

They use Cascada Hotel.

The Chicago Club is best if you are looking for BBFS. Try the chica working the afternoon shift.

[QUOTE=Bunky]
Here's what I would do if I ran the Chicago Club. I'd spend a small amount of money to improve the abysmal lighting. Then I'd invest heavily in attracting the hottest girls. [/QUOTE]

The lighting is sort of done by design. Everyone looks better in the dark. I agree Chicago takes that unofficial rule of strip clubs too far, but when you're dealing with a bunch of Chicago girls, turning up the lights isn't going to help your cause. I tend to try and see a prospective chica in better light -- either by the bar or when they're on stage than the ones that hide in the dark. There's a reason they're hiding in the dark.

[QUOTE=Derekj6926]A nice facility along with gorgeous Chicas with rooms that are clean with a nice shower with hot water in them is what I personally enjoy. I do love TJ and appreciate the businesses that do a good job such as HK, AB, and even the CC is decent, I must try Las Chevalia's to see what their rooms are like.[/QUOTE]

Chevalas and Hong Kong both use Hotel Cascadas for arribas. So if you've taken a girl upstairs from Hong Kong, you know what the room are like.

HK is good at what they do but I kinda like not being pestered all the time by chicas and meseros. Slow small club like CC has its niche for guys like me, pretty easy to get a chica to remember you and to do stuff like dates outside the club later too.. Not as many meseros and customers so they know you and leave you alone after only a few visits. HK is so busy they dont give a shit cause they dont have to unless you really drop alot of money. Never a cover to get in and just look around in CC, and rooms are still just 11 bucks instead of HK's $15 and they dont bug you to pay $1 to rent a coat for the chica to go to the hotel. No stupid HK $3 bag of chips the meseros try to say you ordered.

CC is slower often pretty dead and when you find a chica you like thats cool heck you can park your ass for a long long time with just 1 drink and most chicas will go 2-3 knocks so many 30 min arribas wind up 40 min. Plus nearly all the CC girls will shower after a arriba, most AB and HK chicas wont and just do a sinkwash of their pussy. THink about that when your sucking on you favoritas tits or neck or belly and with high milage HK and AB you might be her 5th or 10th guy of the night... you've essentially got saliva of lots of other guys mouths in yours!

HK has more noise, more people, more shows but most of the time I prefer to just hang out and chat and cuddle with a favorita without too many distractions and eventually take her upstairs and f#ck her.

Zona is great cause guys have different tastes and there are different styles of bars to meet them or street girls since alot of guys hate bars and bargirls. It doesnt mean if its not your style that its bad Peter.

Chicago club is often slow but that can be great since if you like a slower smaller club where you know the girls and they know you and after awhile treat you pretty well and youre not just the 2000th Tom Dick or Harry theyve seen walk in the club, then Chicago Club is good for that. Its a slower pace club and guys that like the girls that work there, prefer it stays smaller and not swarming with sausage too much. I like having chicas that arent so swarmed with guys that they will go out with me to restaurants, movies or Puerto Nuevo or La mansion or Hotel Ticuan on their days off after they get to know me... Its downside is that the since the place is small when alot of the top girls are upstairs fucking or sitting drinking with other guys or out partying with some PLM dude outside the club then its pretty noticable.

Adelitas is good for an even bigger selection of chicas and they are ALL always ready to fuck vs alot of HK chicas that wont... especially some of the edacanes. It is mainly a fuck factory so its hard to develop much of a good client friendship with alot of the ladies since they get pretty mercenary in attitude.

If you want a glitzy crowded American style strip club playing lots of American music then HK is for you lots of girls and lots of men 200-500 people inside on weekend nights. They do have the most dancers and puts on the most shows in TJ. You seem to constantly be in HK so prob the door guys would remember you but HK has ALOT of meseros and customers so most guys are not so lucky as you.

If you want a fresh off the bus chica from outside TJ then Bar Tropical is more your style, Spanish is a must though if you really want to connect with a newer chica there. If you like dancing with the chicas and drinking and enjoy Mexican music and dance then LasChevales is for you. LC the place is packed like sardines when there is a popular band playing there. Then the small little bars like are ok if you REALLY like hangin with the locals and your spanish better be really good. If your a gringo or chino you'd better have a thick skin though hehe.

Each club has their own style, Chicago is slower and less explicit. HK is great for what they do but if you dont like a loud crowded bar and more of a 'speakeasy' style.

All I really need is one chica at a time to cuddle up with, drink and chat with and later take up and fuck and if you really get along good, exchange numbers and maybe mess around outside the club or just talk and text sometimes. Sure your odds are higher at HK cause theirs more chicas but like you said there 20 times the guys in the way of you standing out in her thoughts if you care about things like GFE's.

Chicago, AB, Tropical, LC and the alley all never charge a entrance fee even on weekends so its no prob to walk in, walk to the bathroom look at the chicas present along the way and then walk out without it costing a dime.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]Each club has their own style, Chicago is slower and less explicit. HK is great for what they do but if you dont like a loud crowded bar and more of a 'speakeasy' style.

All I really need is one chica at a time to cuddle up with, drink and chat with and later take up and fuck and if you really get along good, exchange numbers and maybe mess around outside the club or just talk and text sometimes. Sure your odds are higher at HK cause theirs more chicas but like you said there 20 times the guys in the way of you standing out in her thoughts if you care about things like GFE's.

Chicago, AB, Tropical, LC and the alley all never charge a entrance fee even on weekends so its no prob to walk in, walk to the bathroom look at the chicas present along the way and then walk out without it costing a dime.[/QUOTE]

Correct. I like going to the zona during the week -- Wednesday or Thursday -- because most of the a-list girls are working but there's not the crowds. I was in Chicago last night. My favorite girls were there. There were a handful of customers. Since I was there last month, it seems like they've gotten rid of a few of the older/uglier chicas and have a few newer girls that are easy on the eyes. A few gringa looking blondes. Chicago fills a niche. I like some of the girls there a whole lot. But I'll often go over there for a bottle of mineral water and watch the scenery. It is much more laid back than AB and HK.

As part of my walk-about (posted in TJ Reports), I did a scan of the four major bars. I walked into Chicago after I had finished and, to my great surprise, saw a young, very pretty, asian girl sitting at the bar. If I hadn't already finished a session, I would certainly have sat down and chatted with her. I'm probably dropping back into TJ on Tuesday, so I'm going to see if she's there again.

Has anyone else seen this girl in CC, or was I hallucinating?

[QUOTE=Desertratco]As part of my walk-about (posted in TJ Reports), I did a scan of the four major bars. I walked into Chicago after I had finished and, to my great surprise, saw a young, very pretty, asian girl sitting at the bar. If I hadn't already finished a session, I would certainly have sat down and chatted with her. I'm probably dropping back into TJ on Tuesday, so I'm going to see if she's there again.

Has anyone else seen this girl in CC, or was I hallucinating?[/QUOTE]

I think she is a regular. I have seen her there a couple of times. She usually sits at the large bar on the first stools as you walk in. I would give it a go, but she doesn't seem to like my type, fat, old men. LOL

Health & happiness to all.............

[QUOTE=Supersteve]I think she is a regular. I have seen her there a couple of times. She usually sits at the large bar on the first stools as you walk in. I would give it a go, but she doesn't seem to like my type, fat, old men. LOL

Health & happiness to all.............[/QUOTE]

She has been there for months and is very popular with the Asian clientele in the bar. But she does like anyone that will buy her drinks or pay her to go upstairs. Her type is guys w/money.

I visited Chicago Club a few years ago and there was another total knockout Chinese girl working there that was amazing on the stage. She too was popular with the Asian boys so I didn't get a chance with her. I hadn't seen her since. This current girl is a little thicker and seems to shy to get up on the stage.

I think youre talking about Lizette who used to be a escort girl. About 5'1" or 2" and a average build not flaca but like only 19 or 20 years old. She claims to be half Japanese/half Mexican. One of of my friends likes her alot and she treats him well enough that he repeats and he's white.. she has no problem with white guys as far as I've seen.

There are a couple of other taller chicas in there sometimes who are part Philipina. One of em Esmeralda is pretty but my other friend says shes a bad arriba.

[QUOTE=Belgrath]I think youre talking about Lizette who used to be a escort girl. About 5'1" or 2" and a average build not flaca but like only 19 or 20 years old. She claims to be half Japanese/half Mexican. One of of my friends likes her alot and she treats him well enough that he repeats and he's white.. she has no problem with white guys as far as I've seen.

There are a couple of other taller chicas in there sometimes who are part Philipina. One of em Esmeralda is pretty but my other friend says shes a bad arriba.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the intel. I didn't see her on Tuesday when I went in, but I'll be back on Thursday and will look for her--maybe request her by name if possible. I'll let y'all know how it goes--that is, if it goes.

[QUOTE=Desertratco]Thanks for the intel. I didn't see her on Tuesday when I went in, but I'll be back on Thursday and will look for her--maybe request her by name if possible. I'll let y'all know how it goes--that is, if it goes.[/QUOTE]

A lot of the better looking chicas take Monday and Tuesday off so she'll probably be there on Thursday. I usually always come down on Thursday nights since the A-list girls are in the clubs and there are fewer cockblocking dudes around. I've seen her on several Thursday nights. She's exotic and sort of cute but she doesn't have the smokin' hot bod I require so I've passed.

went to c/c to see if a stripper named Cathy was there. I was there about 3 weeks ago and she was striping, but because of time constraints, I couldn't go upstairs with her. She had the most perfect breast ( imho ).

Unfortunately, she wasn't there. I arrived around 20:30 and hung around about an hour before I asked if she was working. The waitress told me she was scheduled in, but wasn't there.

Being horny, I tried to pick the next best thing. Like I said in the other thread, there were many good looking chicas to choose from. I just didn't want a dead fish upstairs.

I picked a very thin chica named Xiomara. Very pretty spinner. I bought her a drink and I couldn't tell if she would be good upstairs or not. Usually I would end it there at the table but something about her.

Anyways, I took her upstairs and had a blast. She started slow, but I think she warmed up to me, then it was on. One of my better session recently.

I wouldn't count c/c out of it yet!

P.S. Has anybody tried Cathy yet and if you did, how was she?

No CC isn't done yet. I didn't care for the cockfest at HK lastnight/this am so I wandered into CC. It's deceptive, you think the place is dead but people start appearing, a bit like "Dusk til Dawn"....
Sat with a cute gal called Patricia from Guadelajara(I think) she tried to ask $70, I replied $60, no problem. I wanted to check Adelita's one last time before I went arriba with her, took a look in there came back, too late, she was gone.
After that, I nursed a beer for about 20 mins, chatting with a skinny chica with straggly blonde hair, a broken nose and f$cked up teeth, she had a nice personality and had definitely been around the block. Proceeded to tell me why she didn't like blacks, chinos etc. Of course it could have been a sales ploy but it'll need to get better than that to make me go arriba with her!
Said many of the CC gals have drug problems which was interesting.
I notice that CC has adopted a "speak easy" atmosphere where guys will swarm in there at 2:45 to escape the 0300 closing. They shut the doors and carry on.
Large % of Chinese guys in there, odd to see that in TJ. I definitely see the more relaxed atmosphere in CC and I like it, decent mix of music too for us "old uns".

[QUOTE=Dornyone]No CC isn't done yet. I didn't care for the cockfest at HK lastnight/this am so I wandered into CC. It's deceptive, you think the place is dead but people start appearing, a bit like "Dusk til Dawn"....
Sat with a cute gal called Patricia from Guadelajara(I think) she tried to ask $70, I replied $60, no problem. I wanted to check Adelita's one last time before I went arriba with her, took a look in there came back, too late, she was gone.
After that, I nursed a beer for about 20 mins, chatting with a skinny chica with straggly blonde hair, a broken nose and f$cked up teeth, she had a nice personality and had definitely been around the block. Proceeded to tell me why she didn't like blacks, chinos etc. Of course it could have been a sales ploy but it'll need to get better than that to make me go arriba with her!
Said many of the CC gals have drug problems which was interesting.
I notice that CC has adopted a "speak easy" atmosphere where guys will swarm in there at 2:45 to escape the 0300 closing. They shut the doors and carry on.
Large % of Chinese guys in there, odd to see that in TJ. I definitely see the more relaxed atmosphere in CC and I like it, decent mix of music too for us "old uns".[/QUOTE]

Shhh.... Chicago is a speakeasy. Let people think that there's nothing but ugly girls there and not worth crossing Coahuila for.

There's about a half dozen really hot girls I like there. But then there's some really frightful ones too. Since the police have often closed Coahuila in front of AB/HK and are cracking down on taxistas that double park or make an illegal u-turn, I've been having the taxis drop me off at Const y Coahuila and hitting Chicago first. And I'll go back after sessions upstairs at HK or AB. I have three favorites there that I know will give me a good time if I don't find a plaything somewhere else.

You're right it can be dead and then all the sudden be packed. And then sometimes be just as dead. But going there before 10pm is pretty pointless but usually the A-list talent is there by then.

There have always been a lot of Asians in the bars in three main bars. Chicago will often have many Asian guys in there. Many of the girls (except your little racist friend it seems) like the Asians because they'll tip will and buy drinks all night and pay sticker price if they go up to the room. Many will often buy stuffed animals, flowers and other shit those vendors walk in with as well. There's a somewhat Asian looking Mexicana there named Itzel. But generally the Asian guys like the tetonas like Stefani. Of course I like the tetonas like Stefani!

I rolled into CC sometime approaching 8, made a lap, took a leak, and settled into a seat at the small bar. I needed to sit and rest for a few minutes after walking all over hell and gone, and this is a good place to sip a beer and relax.

More people than earlier, had a girl stripping. As I sat for the next 45 minutes, or so, business started to pick up. I guess it was probably going pretty good by 10, but I was gone by then.

But, there were several very pretty chicas sitting near me. Most gave me a come hither glance and smile, then proceeded to watch me out of the corner of their eye. As I said earlier, I was in an offbeat mood, and I wasn't interested in a beauty queen and the potential attitude problems. But, had I been in the market for a looker, there were several. Next time...

I noticed a MILF sitting at the end of the bar by the exit. Short brown hair, pleasant looking for an old lady, but she really looked out of place among all the young chicas. I decided, just for shits and giggles, that I'd go chat with her and see what was up. I drained my beer and cha-cha-ed off to the can, with a couple of the chicas slapping me on the ass. But when I came back, some chubby local guy had walked in, nabbed her, and, while I watched, took her out. D'oh! All in the space of 2 minutes. Dayum. So much for a ficha minimum before arriba! :D Oh, well, no biggie. I watched the hottie blonde spinner strip for a while, and then left to hunt some more.

... Finished in the Tropical thread ...

They have a small group of decent chicas but when alot of them are upstairs, on vacation or on outside dates with plms it it very noticable how empthy the cupboard can be.

Thurs night seen Estefani and her magnificent tits
Karla the tall dancer
Kennedy
Marvella
Marisol the dancer
Nelly
sara
Melissa
Misteriosa
Jaime
Deyanira
Sonia
Ivanna
Some sorta new blonde dancer whose been around a week

no Perla
no Frieda
no Naomi
the other recent additon tall blonde dancer (skinner and pretty face) wasnt there prob went to HK was not a newbie to the ring and the pole.
No Jovita
No Alejandra the dancer
no lizette/liselle

they seem to have a new mesera at night kinda tall and good figure who'd Id rather fuck then 80% of the chicas there :)

I can not help but think back to the days of when CC was the place to be. For me it was the years from about 1998 through 2004. I have spent mucho denaro in that place on the beer and especially the women. Many, many hours just laughing, drinking, partying.

I have had some of my very favorites out of CC. Over the years a few even turned into a, dare to say, friendship. Yes I would spend days or weekends with them, movies, restaurants, beach, met their families, played with their kids, celebrated birthdays with them. Arranged meetings in San Diego. A few even wanted marraige (no thank you).

Perhaps one day, sometime in the furture, the tide will turn and CC will be ressurected again. Until then, I will be seeing you all at HK this weekend!

Be safe!

The Tall Man

I dont think it ever will go back to being popular since the place is tiny and rundown compared to HK and the ownership is kinda clueless... It's low key style will not attract many guys many of whom are surprisingly very afraid to approach a girl in a puta bar! CC pretty much have been recruiters for new HK chicas.. new talent hangs around for a couple of weeks and then jumps ship to HK and sometimes AB... HK with sharky chicas is pretty much the way alot guys like it since they come to you and you can paw and finger poke em for a buck or two.

It still is nice to have a quiet hangout and not get pestered and definitely a good place to start actual friendships with chicas since youre not simply another John out of hundreds and hundreds theyve seen running around the club that day.

But the magic of the zona is that within a 100 yard radius you pretty much have your choice of several bars with very different styles, street girls in the alley or street walkers and more...

[QUOTE=The Tall Man]I can not help but think back to the days of when CC was the place to be. For me it was the years from about 1998 through 2004. I have spent mucho denaro in that place on the beer and especially the women. Many, many hours just laughing, drinking, partying.

I have had some of my very favorites out of CC. Over the years a few even turned into a, dare to say, friendship. Yes I would spend days or weekends with them, movies, restaurants, beach, met their families, played with their kids, celebrated birthdays with them. Arranged meetings in San Diego. A few even wanted marraige (no thank you).

Perhaps one day, sometime in the furture, the tide will turn and CC will be ressurected again. Until then, I will be seeing you all at HK this weekend!

Be safe!

The Tall Man[/QUOTE]

CC usually doesnt start up till after 10pm and Chicago is always a low key place.. like a Chicago speakeasy and the chicas are more naturally laid back and low mileage and too damm easy to become friends and start doing stuff outside the club (thats when it really gets too expensive)... Friday and Saturday you know which absent chicas (alot of the hotter ones) have the all night sessions, or day dates doing stuff with their sugardaddys cause they showed up on thurs or wed nights when daddy is busy :). Some ways reminds me of old Mexico Lindo.

HK is a good shark tank with alot of aggressive girls cause they have to to survive in there. Lots of chicas there from AB and Chicago there so lots of fun reunions... :) Its apples and oranges in terms of flavor and I wouldnt like CC if they tried to become another HK. Yeah have friends say places in Pattaya and PI have 10 times the chicas of HK and TJ is shit for even latinas compared to Costa Rica, Colombia, and Argentina mongering but TJ has very different styles and types of girls all in one single area and close by.

Which CC chica wont go arriba? Pretty much they all do. Usually its only the new recruits that try to pull that shit for awhile till they learn they gotta fuck or make hardly any money or else the guys gonna move on to another chica who will fuck or else the chica moves onto HK where they can pull that shit if they are hot or sharky enough. HK is the place where alot of the hottest chicas and dancers dont want to arriba since they make plenty off of tips and drinks. HK is definitely for you then if you like mercenary chicas heheh, couple of buddies tonight ran into the drink only Hong Kong chicas who dont want to fuck... wtf? Even in alot of your reports you also have run into alot of HK chicas that dont arriba or quote way high prices like $80 or 100 for 1/2 hour cause they are just not that hungry to want to fuck for 60 or less.

Hehe thats one good thing about CC is its dead enough so no chica can last long without fucking, unless she hooks some real suckers... one recent one trying to not fuck in a puta bar changed her mind for me tonight after about a couple of weeks of low earnings

Went to Tijuana last Thursday and fucked one girl in chicago. Been there many times but I usually don't fuck them, just get a cover BJ. I was drinking a quite a bit, the condom did not break but I fingered her. My throat is now bothering me a bit. Its getting me really paranoid. Any one caught any thing from the girls or have similar experiences.

[QUOTE=Snoopy111]Went to Tijuana last Thursday and fucked one girl in chicago. Been there many times but I usually don't fuck them, just get a cover BJ. I was drinking a quite a bit, the condom did not break but I fingered her. My throat is now bothering me a bit. Its getting me really paranoid. Any one caught any thing from the girls or have similar experiences.[/QUOTE]

I've only gotten colds from girls in Tijuana which often times will have sore throat as a symptom. Remember Occam's Razor. Oft times the most obvious, simple explanation is the actual explanation. The clubs are great places to spread non-STIs like colds, flu, strep throat, &c because of all the people.

It is probably too early for physical symptoms of an STI to manifest itself. Especially in a non contact area like you're throat. If you're losing sleep over it, go see a doctor.

I kinda stay way from dancers or chicas walking around the room letting 20-100 men paw her tits, mash their face into them or suck on em (they dont wash their tits between guys so its like you've french kissed 50 other guys and got their diseases..) Pretty much alot of the HK girls (who get pawed, fingered and sucked on alot) and the more popular AB and CC dancers are walking germ factories if you join in on the grabbing and sucking parade of guys. I carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer, and travel sized bottle of listerine with me in the zona and wash my hands alot. It is hard to resist though a cute bar chica who wants to french kiss you! If a chica only sinkwashes or doesnt wash at all instead of a full shower after an arriba I dont repeat.

Heh the funniest thing I ever saw was a dancer get a finger in the ass for several bucks and then the guy massaged her tits and walked away. Another guy wandered near her and she went up to him and he put his face on her tits and boy did he rear back with a sour face almost instantly and gave the chica the dirtiest look and grabbed a beer quick!

One monger I kinda knew who likes Monitos Hotel street walkers told me he thought he got pinkeye once from a chica with kinda bloodshot eyes who he thought was just that way from doing drugs or drinking and staying up for days..I guess he rubbed his eyes while he was with her at Monitos...

[QUOTE=Snoopy111]Went to Tijuana last Thursday and fucked one girl in chicago. Been there many times but I usually don't fuck them, just get a cover BJ. I was drinking a quite a bit, the condom did not break but I fingered her. My throat is now bothering me a bit. Its getting me really paranoid. Any one caught any thing from the girls or have similar experiences.[/QUOTE]Ignore the smart-ass comments.

Throat irritations, coughs, etc., are very common in TJ. Many of the bars are smoky, and if you're not used to that, it can often cause throat irritation.

Colds, sore throat, etc., are very common in TJ, and wherever else a lot of people congregate. Especially if they kiss, fondle, etc., each other.

I have caught coughs and colds from BGs all over the world. It's nothing new. Don't be alarmed. Unless you fingered her, then rubbed your finger on an open cut, you should worry about something more likely to happen. Like being struck by lightning.

I talk to a couple of my friends who are MDs and they told me its not a big deal. I went in for a check up at the STD clinic today. The doc told me HIV, Herpres and Syphilis are highly unlikely. I am more relax now.

Thanks

I went down to cc last week. I went arriba with the same girl. I asked her about the health cards. It turns out that the guy at the door has a stack of health cards. They have no problem showing me the card. Be safe and have fun.

I never saw any report about a place before chicago & behind taco stand. What is that place? looks like motel and there are many girls standing in front of rooms.

Any one has any idea?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Santij]I never saw any report about a place before chicago & behind taco stand. What is that place? looks like motel and there are many girls standing in front of rooms.

Any one has any idea?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Search for posts on Monitos. Generally a place for the crack hos and the bottom strata of TJ's damas de la noche. Although some diamonds-in-the-rough have been reported..

I seen them before. Not attractive at all and looked unhealthy.

So I decided to take a trip down to my favorite Zona last Saturday. I hit up the usual places. I swing by Adelitas to see if there is any new talent. More of the same, many familiar faces, so I decide to head to HK and see if I can find one of my favorites while enjoying the shows. Now as I enter HK, i'm reminded that it is a saturday night and like usual the place is packed, hot and steamy. I stay only to see if one my favorite girls was working tonight. I don't see her and figure its still early, about 8pm, so she may not have started working yet. I decide to go somewhere to cool off from HK's steam bath. I head to chicago club.

Chicago Club is pretty dead. Maybe 8 customers in there. I like to come here for a relaxing drink, its not a steam bath like HK. Most of the Chica's here are 6's some 7's in my opinion. As I was watching the strip show out of the corner of my eye I see one girl walking across the bar. I turn my head away from the strip show to get a good look and wow, she was a stunner. And apparently she must of seen my eyes light up, cause she caught my glance and immediately came over to sit on my lap. How could I not resist? I end up buying her a drink so I can have a chat with her. I don't speak spanish, but she ended up having pretty good english. I told her she was beautiful and she responded by saying she knows and that shes very expensive. Now one would usually think that the conversation would turn south after hearing that but she let me feel her up and even tried to say her breast were real. I'm a pretty good judge, having felt many many breasts. She laughs and admits she bought them. She's from cancun and tells me this is her first night working at Chicago club. She quotes me at $100 and I just laugh and counter I can pick any other girl in here for $60. We haggle back and forth a bit all in good fun. We ended up having a pretty good conversation and I really enjoyed chatting with her. In the end I tell her I have to decline and maybe i'll be back if her price drops. I bid farewell and head back to HK to see if one of my favs starting working.

After about an hour I decide to just as the waiter upstairs. This guy has a clipboard and what looks like a list of all the girls working. He informs me that she's not here tonight, a little dissapointed I decide to browse the fine selection at Adelita's. Nothing really gets my attention so I decide to head back to Chicago club.

I take a seat, order a beer and decide to relax a bit before crossing the border. The chica from cancun spots me and swings by to ask me why i'm back. I told her I got bored in HK and decided to relax here where its cooler. She didn't even ask me to buy her a drink. She says bye and goes to the bar. At this point in time i'm thinking to myself Its late and I don't think she's gotten any business. I walk over to her and asks if she wants a drink, she gets a big smile on her face and says yes. We strike up another fun conversation, won't bore you with the details. But in the end she agreed to $60 with another $10 for BBBJ.

Now here's the part most of you are interested in. I'll start off by saying it was awesome. We get up stairs and she's totally horny. Now I always shower before heading down to TJ, but since I was walking around and in HK, I told her I was going to take a quick shower cause i've been walking around. She says its fine as long as I wasn't with another girl, told her I wasn't and we get down to business. As I stand and watch she undresses slowly for me and gets on her knees to give me a BBBJ. She was definately enjoying herself, I felt my knees start to buckle and tell her I need to lay down. She asks if i'm ready I told her no, keep on sucking. Its not easy to find a girl that does BBBJ's, especially one doing it this good so I wanted to enjoy it longer. She even gave my balls some attention. I was about to pop in her mouth when I told her to stop. I told her I wanted her on top and she says no. I was like "lol what?". She says she really wants me from behind and stick her ass high up in the air. With a gesture like that how could I refuse? Unfortunately for me that happens to be my favorite position. I end up having to pull out a couple times so I wouldn't blow early. I think I gave her a good pounding, threw in my signature move and we both ended up collapsing in a sweaty heap together. We laid there for a few minutes to catch our breath.

After we got up she asked if I wanted to shower first, I said why don't we shower together. She said yes and she ends up giving me a soapy body rub in the shower. She even asked me if we could go at it one more time, no charge. I was extremely tempted to stick it in her right there in the shower, but alas, it was very late, and I didn't want to start anything i'm not sure I can finish. I give her a generous tip for her services. I don't like to pay more than $60 but I like to tip well when they give me what I feel is excellent service. She gives me her number and tells me to call her next time i'm down. We were in there well over 30 mins, but I guess since Chicago club is pretty dead, they didn't care. Tiped the cum boy $1 and headed back across the border.

Do you have the name of the girl?

[QUOTE=Sock111]So I decided to take a trip down to my favorite Zona last Saturday. I hit up the usual places. I swing by Adelitas to see if there is any new talent. More of the same, many familiar faces, so I decide to head to HK and see if I can find one of my favorites while enjoying the shows. Now as I enter HK, i'm reminded that it is a saturday night and like usual the place is packed, hot and steamy. I stay only to see if one my favorite girls was working tonight. I don't see her and figure its still early, about 8pm, so she may not have started working yet. I decide to go somewhere to cool off from HK's steam bath. I head to chicago club.

Chicago Club is pretty dead. Maybe 8 customers in there. I like to come here for a relaxing drink, its not a steam bath like HK. Most of the Chica's here are 6's some 7's in my opinion. As I was watching the strip show out of the corner of my eye I see one girl walking across the bar. I turn my head away from the strip show to get a good look and wow, she was a stunner. And apparently she must of seen my eyes light up, cause she caught my glance and immediately came over to sit on my lap. How could I not resist? I end up buying her a drink so I can have a chat with her. I don't speak spanish, but she ended up having pretty good english. I told her she was beautiful and she responded by saying she knows and that shes very expensive. Now one would usually think that the conversation would turn south after hearing that but she let me feel her up and even tried to say her breast were real. I'm a pretty good judge, having felt many many breasts. She laughs and admits she bought them. She's from cancun and tells me this is her first night working at Chicago club. She quotes me at $100 and I just laugh and counter I can pick any other girl in here for $60. We haggle back and forth a bit all in good fun. We ended up having a pretty good conversation and I really enjoyed chatting with her. In the end I tell her I have to decline and maybe i'll be back if her price drops. I bid farewell and head back to HK to see if one of my favs starting working.

After about an hour I decide to just as the waiter upstairs. This guy has a clipboard and what looks like a list of all the girls working. He informs me that she's not here tonight, a little dissapointed I decide to browse the fine selection at Adelita's. Nothing really gets my attention so I decide to head back to Chicago club.

I take a seat, order a beer and decide to relax a bit before crossing the border. The chica from cancun spots me and swings by to ask me why i'm back. I told her I got bored in HK and decided to relax here where its cooler. She didn't even ask me to buy her a drink. She says bye and goes to the bar. At this point in time i'm thinking to myself Its late and I don't think she's gotten any business. I walk over to her and asks if she wants a drink, she gets a big smile on her face and says yes. We strike up another fun conversation, won't bore you with the details. But in the end she agreed to $60 with another $10 for BBBJ.

Now here's the part most of you are interested in. I'll start off by saying it was awesome. We get up stairs and she's totally horny. Now I always shower before heading down to TJ, but since I was walking around and in HK, I told her I was going to take a quick shower cause i've been walking around. She says its fine as long as I wasn't with another girl, told her I wasn't and we get down to business. As I stand and watch she undresses slowly for me and gets on her knees to give me a BBBJ. She was definately enjoying herself, I felt my knees start to buckle and tell her I need to lay down. She asks if i'm ready I told her no, keep on sucking. Its not easy to find a girl that does BBBJ's, especially one doing it this good so I wanted to enjoy it longer. She even gave my balls some attention. I was about to pop in her mouth when I told her to stop. I told her I wanted her on top and she says no. I was like "lol what?". She says she really wants me from behind and stick her ass high up in the air. With a gesture like that how could I refuse? Unfortunately for me that happens to be my favorite position. I end up having to pull out a couple times so I wouldn't blow early. I think I gave her a good pounding, threw in my signature move and we both ended up collapsing in a sweaty heap together. We laid there for a few minutes to catch our breath.

After we got up she asked if I wanted to shower first, I said why don't we shower together. She said yes and she ends up giving me a soapy body rub in the shower. She even asked me if we could go at it one more time, no charge. I was extremely tempted to stick it in her right there in the shower, but alas, it was very late, and I didn't want to start anything i'm not sure I can finish. I give her a generous tip for her services. I don't like to pay more than $60 but I like to tip well when they give me what I feel is excellent service. She gives me her number and tells me to call her next time i'm down. We were in there well over 30 mins, but I guess since Chicago club is pretty dead, they didn't care. Tiped the cum boy $1 and headed back across the border.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jim0129]Do you have the name of the girl?[/QUOTE]Oh I don't like to list their names, for fear that they too read these forums. Don't want to ruin a good thing for myself.

Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?[/QUOTE]What was the girl's name. I pretty much know the gals in Chicago and I can probably tell you if you need to worry or not. And yes they all have health cards or they can't work.

If they all have health cards would that be a indication that they are OK at the time of their last exam. I think the girls name is Ivanna or Ivanka?

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?[/QUOTE]It happened to many and there is no worry, almost 95% time. Please read topics on HIV transmission. Man to woman more likely than the other way around, unless there is a significant cut or wound. I read through many report when I was collecting data on transmission of this STDs. The fear and woory are the main culprits and for your satisfaction, you may do the checkup after 10-12 weeks.

Good luck and be safe.

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?[/QUOTE]

You need to relax. Of course it is possible you got HIV from someone due 90 seconds of barebacking but it isn't that probable. It is also possible, yet improbable that you got her pregnant with precum while barebacking. It is possible, but slightly more probable you make have picked up another STI as well. Even if you always wear a condom, you're engaging in higher risk sex and should get tested for HIV, Hepatitis, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis on a regular basis.

It is true that the girls can't work w/o a health card. But also keep in mind that the health card should not provide an ironclad sense of security. By the time a working girl tests positive for HIV she may have banged many more partners. She'll be taken out of circulation after the test, but didn't protect people during the window period. But the 30 day testing requirement in TJ and porn valley is the most practical way to keep things in check.

HIV tests have a "window period" of 3 weeks to six months where someone could be infected but will not show up on tests. Although many cases pop up after a month. That means for someone sexually active, a test on the 28th of September that comes back negative for HIV means that she was clean in February to August. Had she become infected on August 29th, the tests may not show it until October 28th at the earliest or early next year at the latest. Because, like all the girls I've been with at Chicago and the other major bars, require condoms, stop when the condom breaks, and generally practices safer sex methods, you're most likely in the clear. You can usually get a vibe from the girls about how well they take care of themselves and the importance they place on their health.

If I were you, I'd remain calm and in about 30 days go get a full STI workup (the window period for most STIs are about a month except Gonorrhea which may present itself within days and you'll know you have it in most cases). Use the time you're waiting to do as much research as you can about STIs because it will help you understand the probabilities and should help you feel better.

I've had condoms break and on rare occasion not used them with girls in Mexico and Thailand and so far have only caught colds from the girls. I hate that feeling you're feeling now, but I try to stay informed and get tested regularly (every 6 months, but sooner if the condom broke or I did something stupid).

Finally, if you like those 15 minute long covered blow jobs, make sure you change condoms before sex because the occasional teeth and suction for that period of time would weaken it. I bring my own condoms (Crown or Beyond 7) and if I'm in the mood for an extended covered bj I'll have her use the house condom for the mouth and my condom for the sex.

I understand what you are saying. My hope is that if she was negative then hopefully she remain negative. Shes been working there for 8 months after she had a baby. I will call her or I will go down there in a few weeks to see what her result is for the new hiv test she will take on 10/28. Hope she is OK.

I feel terrible and I serious wanted to cry. I am the most paranoid person in the world. I only been going to TJ since early August and never had a condom failed on me. Mostly I just go for cover bjs. I think it was the BJ that cause the failure. I swear I would never go to TJ for sex anymore after this. I met a couple of guys that have "girlfriends" that work in these club. And one guy told me that he never use condom with his "girlfriend". He was her customer before they got together and she still works in HK.

Tuesday, October 5, 2010
There Are 5,976 Registered Prostitutes in Tijuana
AFN Tijuana has an article today on the "health" of the "sexoservidoras" industry. Sexoservidora is the most polite word in Spanish for prostitute. It translates as "sex service person." The municipal health department of Tijuana registers these people and gives them routine exams. The women (and men) actually have health cards that they are required to show to authorities. Although it is a legal requirement to register, not all of these service people choose to register with the health department. In fact, based upon the statistics below, it looks like more are not registered than are registered. Some interesting statistics were disclosed:

* There are currently 5,976 active registered sexoservidoras in Tijuana
* For the first three quarters of 2010, they have detected two cases of HIV infection
* For the first three quarters of 2010, they have detected 75 cases of fungal vaginitis, 8 cases of gonorrhea and 9 condylomata genital warts

Maybe I should have warned the readers to not look at this until after breakfast?

In any event, this is apparently one of the growth industries in Tijuana. Angel Casillas De la Torre, director of the health department, says the number of prostitutes in Tijuana is growing at an incredible rate. Last year there were but 3,000 registered sexoservidoras. The cadre has doubled in a year. It's either that, or most of the sexoservidoras were not registered and getting their health checks.

Now your just freaking yourself out. You knew the risks of what you were doing. No point in whining about it now.

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]Tuesday, October 5, 2010
There Are 5,976 Registered Prostitutes in Tijuana
AFN Tijuana has an article today on the "health" of the "sexoservidoras" industry. Sexoservidora is the most polite word in Spanish for prostitute. It translates as "sex service person." The municipal health department of Tijuana registers these people and gives them routine exams. The women (and men) actually have health cards that they are required to show to authorities. Although it is a legal requirement to register, not all of these service people choose to register with the health department. In fact, based upon the statistics below, it looks like more are not registered than are registered. Some interesting statistics were disclosed:

* There are currently 5,976 active registered sexoservidoras in Tijuana
* For the first three quarters of 2010, they have detected two cases of HIV infection
* For the first three quarters of 2010, they have detected 75 cases of fungal vaginitis, 8 cases of gonorrhea and 9 condylomata genital warts

Maybe I should have warned the readers to not look at this until after breakfast?

In any event, this is apparently one of the growth industries in Tijuana. Angel Casillas De la Torre, director of the health department, says the number of prostitutes in Tijuana is growing at an incredible rate. Last year there were but 3,000 registered sexoservidoras. The cadre has doubled in a year. It's either that, or most of the sexoservidoras were not registered and getting their health checks.[/QUOTE]

I have to say Chicago Club has picked up quite a bit. Saturday night had a lot of cute ones. If you normally stick to HK or Adelita's, I suggest you take a look in CC.

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]I understand what you are saying. My hope is that if she was negative then hopefully she remain negative. Shes been working there for 8 months after she had a baby. I will call her or I will go down there in a few weeks to see what her result is for the new hiv test she will take on 10/28. Hope she is OK.

I feel terrible and I serious wanted to cry. I am the most paranoid person in the world. I only been going to TJ since early August and never had a condom failed on me. Mostly I just go for cover bjs. I think it was the BJ that cause the failure. I swear I would never go to TJ for sex anymore after this. I met a couple of guys that have "girlfriends" that work in these club. And one guy told me that he never use condom with his "girlfriend". He was her customer before they got together and she still works in HK.[/QUOTE]

Dude, give it a rest!!!!

Do a little research of your own. You will find that is is extremely difficult for a man to get HIV from a woman. It's much easier for the woman to get it from a man. It happens, but it's very long odds. A couple of minutes of a broken condom? Forget it!!

The biggest problem, IMHO, is that the HIV thing has become so politicized. Everybody wants some sort of gov't funding for their research project. So, the stats are skewed to please whatever gov't body is funding the particular study.

Fact is, most HIV is still spread via unprotected anal sex and IV drug use. If you're not into either of these things, your odds of contracting HIV go waaaay down. In your case, they're absolutely miniscule.

Go get some non-latex condoms. Avanti Bare is a good one. They work as well, or better, than a latex unit. And they tend to be "tougher," i.e. they don't tear as easily.

THEN RELAX!!

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969] About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. [/QUOTE]

I've had about two dozen condoms break. Each time I knew it immediately. So every time I read some NOT knowing the condom broke, I chuckle and say "yeah right". Once the temp and texture changes, your barebacking.

One, CBJ are suck and they also lead to condom breaks - so change it after they toothy puta does a lame ass job with her mouth.
Two, if the condom broke, then you probably punched thru it. Put it little lube on your pecker, then the condom and breakage will be reduced. Not too much it it can slip off.
Three, f'n relax cabron.

SDC

[QUOTE=Sock111]I have to say Chicago Club has picked up quite a bit. Saturday night had a lot of cute ones. If you normally stick to HK or Adelita's, I suggest you take a look in CC.[/QUOTE]

Yes the new waitresses are a nice touch and most if not all will go up. They are also handing out cards for free drinks. With the card you get the 2nd drink free after buying the 1st. Limited to one free one per night. At least it's a start in the right direction.

It's been a while since I have been to C/c.. I walked in around 21:00 and as you guessed it, it was dead. Maybe around 12 chicas with two that looked doable. I took my usual strool past the bar, then to the bathroom for a pit stop.

After the pit stop, walked along the tables wasn't sure if I should stay or should I go. I was a little hungry so I decided to go. As I go past the curtain, a cute slim chica was waking in. I smiled at her, she smiled at me. So I said hola and she said hola back. I kept walking out but turned my head back and she had her head turned around and was smiling at me.

I couldn't let this go so I walk back to her and told her I was going to get a quick bite and I would return to see her. She said no problem and introduced herself. She said her name was Milena.

This is when I grabbed a quick bite at the Sonora grill.

After filling my stomach, I went back to C/c.. Again I walk past the curtains and at the long bar first seat, is Milena. As I get closer to her, she smiles at me and picks up from the other chair a serving tray.

I remember reading someone saying there was a cute chica working as a waitress here, could this be her? So I ask her, are you a waitress? She laughs and says yes. I then asked her if she can sit with the clients. Again she says yes. I tell her to pick a table. I follow her all the way back to the table near the men's room.

So I buy her a drink, I get a water. By the way, she speaks very good English. She was very good company but because it was getting late, and I was still on a high from the chica at T/b, I told her I had to leave soon. I did ask her if it was okay to take her upstairs and she said yes. I told her hopefully I would be down there again this coming weekend and would she like to go upstairs at that time. She smiled and said she would love to.

Has anyone been with this chica yet? If not, I will toftt. Just not sure when.

I thought I would be giving a good t/r since I was going to toftt. Unfortunately, I didn't pull the trigger. I wanted to but while having a drink with Milena, the waitress, she told me she would not kiss on the lips. No dfk.

I guess I got spoiled with all my trips to Brazil and fortunately, most of my recents chicas, gave amazing dfk's..

So I told her no offense, but kissing is a favorite passion of mine. She smiled, and said she hope I find a chica who would fit my requirements. Then I left.

If anyone can recommend her even without the kissing, please let me know.

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Tijuana Zona Norta typical chica have training in sex education and go thru frequent medical examination. Most are very particular as to what one can do including kissing. Chicas are in a regulated City of Tijuana activity.

My guess is Brazil wg are less trained in health safety issues and not regulated.

[QUOTE=Quackup]I thought I would be giving a good t/r since I was going to toftt. Unfortunately, I didn't pull the trigger. I wanted to but while having a drink with Milena, the waitress, she told me she would not kiss on the lips. No dfk.

I guess I got spoiled with all my trips to Brazil and fortunately, most of my recents chicas, gave amazing dfk's.

So I told her no offense, but kissing is a favorite passion of mine. She smiled, and said she hope I find a chica who would fit my requirements. Then I left.

If anyone can recommend her even without the kissing, please let me know.[/QUOTE]

Saw this Blond girl in Chicago and chat with her a bit. Super fine. Think her name was Dayanira s/p.

Worth trying?

Tijuana is having new influx from various region including blonde chicas.

Asian clients are apparent in Tijuana too.

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969]Saw this Blond girl in Chicago and chat with her a bit. Super fine. Think her name was Dayanira s/p.

Worth trying?[/QUOTE]

I've tried her before, she loves asian men, but she is not new, actually, she's been there a long time, too expensive for my taste and not very good, she won't go on top and she bites when giving oral, but she's the best looking one in CC, big fish in a small pond I guess.

That's just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969; 1098951]Saw this Blond girl in Chicago and chat with her a bit. Super fine. Think her name was Dayanira s / p.

Worth trying? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chinaman6969;1083950]Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?[/QUOTE]Read the thread on HIV transmission. It quotes a reputable study that transmission rates from an HIV positive woman to an unprotected male ranges from 3 in 10, 000 to 9 in 10, 000. Meaning that if 10, 000 guys banged an HIV positive woman bareback, between 3 and 9 of them would contract HIV. Of course that's not saying which of the 10, 000 guys it would be. The first or the last.

HIV test would be the sure thing for negative verification and peace of mind.

Someone else in the thread can comment on the clinic in Tijuana that provides this service.

HIV is best treatable in the early stages.

[QUOTE=TravellinDude; 1110687]Read the thread on HIV transmission. It quotes a reputable study that transmission rates from an HIV positive woman to an unprotected male ranges from 3 in 10, 000 to 9 in 10, 000. Meaning that if 10, 000 guys banged an HIV positive woman bareback, between 3 and 9 of them would contract HIV. Of course that's not saying which of the 10, 000 guys it would be. The first or the last.

Response to: Originally Posted by Chinaman6969

Last night went to Chicago. Got a cover BJ from one of the girls for 15 minutes. Then started to have sex. About a minute a half later pull out and realized the condom broke. Didn't know when the condom broke but its brief. Went to the bathroom to wash with soap. Freaked out about the whole incident. The girl offered me to see her health card and the dates of her hiv test. She got checked last month on the 28th and she was hiv negative. She will go get check again this month on the 28 th. I still freaking out about it despite seeing her health card and knowing that she tested negative last month. Am I over reacting? Anyone had similar experiences? Many of the girls in cc and ab told me they can not work without the health card and to get the health card they need to go check for stds and hiv. Did you guys hear about a costumer get Hiv from a broken condom with one of the girls in the CC, AB, HK?[/QUOTE]

Went to Chicago club around 8 PM on Saturday, almost dead, there were hardly 10 ladies. One good looking chika sitting close to bar and she quoted $80, I countered $60, she said NO. What the ffff going on. Went to adilitas. Not many ladies there too, but found one known chika bought her couple of drinks and went up stairs. She never asks me money up front. Off course gave $60.

Do people pay $80, since every one knows that its $60?

[QUOTE=Santij;1112310]Do people pay $80, since every one knows that its $60?[/QUOTE]Sadly some will pay $80 or more but they are either ignorant, rich, stupid or gullible. Not everyone knows that the average rate is $60 or that many chicas go for $50 or less if you have bought a couple of drinks. The chicas do need to pay back the house for a couple of ficha drinks each time they go up (is my understanding) so they will try to get a better rate (for them) if you haven't coughed up 2 or 3 drinks.

I don't see how the CC chicas can refuse $60 unless they are the 2 or 3 star dancers and the only chicas there making any real money.

[QUOTE=Sound7; 1110717]HIV test would be the sure thing for negative verification and peace of mind.

Someone else in the thread can comment on the clinic in Tijuana that provides this service.

HIV is best treatable in the early stages. [/QUOTE]In 2006 in Mexico city discussed with doctor as subject of interest to me, we were in a cantina together, he works with sex workers, I am sure this guy did more than work with them! LOL. Even if a woman had HIV the chances of getting it from one time encounter are extremely tiny! Especially woman to man! Hetrosexual couples living together or married for years where woman had it the rate of infection to man varies from 10% to 25% depending on study one would think it closer to 100% but no! Of course we should be carefully who wants to be that unlucky sucker one in say 100, 000! Not I? Nor you either! But if a condom breaks, really, no need for undue stress either but yes caution good but if we were totally cautious we could not enjoy hobby just need to balance risks! BigJohn 1

Trip Report.

Well, I am back from my trip and let me tell you, it was fun. The place has really improved compared to the old days. There are palm trees now downtown and it's very lit up. I always felt safe and feel the crime thing is overblown. Hk is a sight to behold. So many hot chicas. I felt like I was back in brazil when the exchange rate was good. Money was no object this trip compared to Brazil when it was all I worried about. HK and Adelitas are the only good places now. CC had 2 people in the whole place. I can't believe what happened to that place. The strip clubs like madonas are now a ghost town and a dump. Revolution is dead. I didn't go to Amnesia. Any reviews on that? Very few barkers now. The main reason I loved Hk and kind of AB is the girls are wearing bikinis and you can now see their body. The last time I was there, you had to guess on how much they were hiding. I was a little confused on how the drinks worked. You have to buy a beer for the girl to sit with you, but do you have to keep buying beers for her to stay? I wanted a lap dance, but they were officially 20 bucks which was sad. I won't pay US prices for a dance. I just bought them drinks and felt them up while they got drunk. I was not succesful in getting a girl from hk to my room. I guess they are tired by 6 and want to go home. This was my first trip in years, and would like some advice from the board on best way to get girls to your hotel, and how to buy as few drinks as possible while keeping the girl there.

[quote=helprules; 1113314]trip report.

i was a little confused on how the drinks worked. you have to buy a beer for the girl to sit with you, but do you have to keep buying beers for her to stay. this was my first trip in years, and would like some advice from the board on best way to get girls to your hotel, and how to buy as few drinks as possible while keeping the girl there. [/quote]it's up to the girl if she stays with you or not but generally they require a drink. regardless, you will constantly be pestered by meseros to buy more drinks so it's hard to avoid. a good way to tell if the girl is a good one or not is the speed she finishes her drink. an ab shark will down her drink in less than a minute. some will milk their drinks for a good, long time.

some hk girls only do private dances and don't go to the hotel at all. most who do go will want to go to the hk hotel so they can get back to the bar more quickly. with them, the best bet to get them to your hotel is to wait until the end of their shift when they are off.

[QUOTE=Santij; 1112310]Went to Chicago club around 8 PM on Saturday, almost dead, there were hardly 10 ladies. One good looking chika sitting close to bar and she quoted $80, I countered $60, she said NO. What the ffff going on. Went to adilitas. Not many ladies there too, but found one known chika bought her couple of drinks and went up stairs. She never asks me money up front. Off course gave $60.

Do people pay $80, since every one knows that its $60? [/QUOTE]If its slow, you can ask for $40. I am well aware the most locals get less than $50 every time. They know a girl may say no at first, but as the night drags on they generally accept it. Thing is by then you may not be interested.

Chicago got raided Friday night. The police were there to check for health cards. They did not bother the customers. One girl the waitress was taken away. All the other girls were stayed at the club. It lasted about 15 minutes.

I was wandering aroung the zona last night, around 9:30-ish. I was going to call it quits, but, on a whim, wandered into CC just to take a leak and check it out.

The second I walked in the door, there was a lady just checking her coat at the kiosk. She looked familiar, and we both did a bit of a double-take.

Then I smiled, and she smiled. It was Helena (or Elena. She spells it with a silent H). Wow.

I haven't seen her for ages. Last I (or anyone) heard she moved off to DF. But, once a hooker.

I think some of the old timers here will remember her. She used to work CC, then moved off to AB, then went to DF to live with her son, I think. I guess the hairdresser thing didn't pan out? She said she'd gone from DF to Juarez, and then to Algodones earlier this year. Tijuana was too cold. She's supposedly been back in Tijuana for about a month.

Anyway, she does certainly look a bit worse for the wear. She's put on a bit of weight, and looks older. She must be closer to 50 than 40 now. But she still has that maginficent head of hair, and the very best saline implants in the business. She's still ditzy as all get out, and has that dopey fan. She loves to dance. I still love her personality, and she's probably still pretty good in the sack.

Just for old time's sake I bought her a drink (she still loves her tequila) , chatted a bit, played with the twins a little. She said she had to go back to another customer when she finished the drink. No biggie, I wasn't going to go arriba with her, anyway. I tipped her $5, again for old time's sake. She wandered back to the bar where some dude was sitting, apparently waiting for her. I finished my beer, waved to her, and left.

So, nothing exciting happened. It was just a pleasant surprise.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1148525]I was wandering aroung the zona last night, around 9:30-ish. I was going to call it quits, but, on a whim, wandered into CC just to take a leak and check it out.

The second I walked in the door, there was a lady just checking her coat at the kiosk. She looked familiar, and we both did a bit of a double-take.

Then I smiled, and she smiled. It was Helena (or Elena. She spells it with a silent H). Wow.

I haven't seen her for ages. Last I (or anyone) heard she moved off to DF. But, once a hooker.

I think some of the old timers here will remember her. She used to work CC, then moved off to AB, then went to DF to live with her son, I think. I guess the hairdresser thing didn't pan out? She said she'd gone from DF to Juarez, and then to Algodones earlier this year. Tijuana was too cold. She's supposedly been back in Tijuana for about a month.

Anyway, she does certainly look a bit worse for the wear. She's put on a bit of weight, and looks older. She must be closer to 50 than 40 now. But she still has that maginficent head of hair, and the very best saline implants in the business. She's still ditzy as all get out, and has that dopey fan. She loves to dance. I still love her personality, and she's probably still pretty good in the sack.

Just for old time's sake I bought her a drink (she still loves her tequila) , chatted a bit, played with the twins a little. She said she had to go back to another customer when she finished the drink. No biggie, I wasn't going to go arriba with her, anyway. I tipped her $5, again for old time's sake. She wandered back to the bar where some dude was sitting, apparently waiting for her. I finished my beer, waved to her, and left.

So, nothing exciting happened. It was just a pleasant surprise. [/QUOTE]I saw her to but had no desire to arriba with her because she has never given me good service. The last time I talked to her she was preaching religion to me. LOL

So sad my favorite place.

Damn shame.

[QUOTE=Cansx; 1158003]So sad my favorite place.

Damn shame. [/QUOTE]Are you saying Chicago Club is now closed down?

[QUOTE=FlapJacK;1158285]Are you saying Chicago Club is now closed down?[/QUOTE]I don't think he is saying that. It was open last Wednesday but some feel CC has been as good as closed for the past 2 or 3 years. This is compared to 5 or 6 years ago. Hardly any action until after 9 or 10 at night and very little then.

[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial;1158307]I don't think he is saying that. It was open last Wednesday but some feel CC has been as good as closed for the past 2 or 3 years. This is compared to 5 or 6 years ago. Hardly any action until after 9 or 10 at night and very little then.[/QUOTE]I disagree, yes it is a lot slower then Adelita's or HK, but I like the change in atmosphere when I get tired of the other clubs. I think Chicago club has picked up a lot recently. I see a steady selection of good looking girls. I was there on a Thursday night at around 8pm and there were 20 girls (I counted) to choose from.

It is a nice place to have a drink and relax when you get tired of the hustle of HK.

Yep, standing room only, every Friday and Saturday evenings I could count no less than 10 woman that would rock my world in CC,

I have found a few diamonds in the rough in CC, a few I actually met and had dinner and movies (dating) with outside the club and scene in Tijuana and San Diego, LTR was no problem. Of course I was 12 or 14 years younger too,

I remember fondly one who was so naturally beautiful and our chemistry was so spot on that if I was in a moment of weakness I would and could have married her, she felt the same.

This was back in 1997 to about 2002. I stepped in to CC on my last trip about 3 weeks ago, as I walked the aisles I could not help but recall all the fun years ago.

The Tall Man

Friday afternoon I went to the Chicago Club at about 6 PM. There is a gal in there that is half Japanese and half Mexican named Lisette that is really hot and I have been eyeing her for about a year, but she seemed to be always occupied in a booth with a guy for one or two drinks and upstairs. Back downstairs with another guy waiting for her. It seemed like there was always a line of guys waiting for her, so I had never had an opportunity to be with her. Friday night I found out why. I got to Chicago Club about 6 and asked Richard the mesero what time Lisette got to work. He said between 7 and 8 PM. I told him that I wanted a reservation to be her first for the night. Richard said no problem. I went out and had a couple of quesadillas con carne and was back at Chicago Club at 7.

Lisette showed up about 7:30 and Richard brought her to me. I bought her a couple of girlie drinks and we chit chatted for about half an hour. I speak pretty good Spanish so it is easy for me to chit chat with these gals. We went upstairs. I paid for an hour for the room as I am an old fart and it normally takes me almost an hour to come. The good providers love this and the bad providers complain about this."When are you going to come, etc.". I was a little disappointed at first as she put on a condom to do the blowjob. I really prefer BBBJ and usually don't repeat with those that only do CBJ. I told her that I wanted BBBJ in Spanish and she told me that she never does this. It was one of the best if not the best CBJ that I have ever had. She really knows what she is doing. Next we went to cowgirl, doggie style with me standing at the side of the bed, her on her back with me standing at the side of the bed and finish with mish with me blowing one of the biggest loads of my entire life. I looked at my watch and it we had only been together for 20 minutes. This never happens to me! She said that we have time to do it again if I have more condoms. I told her that I more condoms but didn't think that this old man could come again before the hour was over. She told me not to worry that she would take care of me. She had me lay on my stomach and gave me a massage with baby oil for about 10 minutes. She had me roll over, put on the cover and started with another incredible CBJ. She indeed took care of me and she made me come just before the knock on the door. I could not believe it!

I will definitely repeat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you posters who said you can find some gems here at C / see, all I can say is wow!

I'am sure I'am going to out someone's atf here because this chicas performance is up there with the best of them. I was almost going to keep her to myself, but lucky for some of you, I don't come down here as much as I like, so someone else can enjoy her.

Her name is Ivana (sp ). Very pretty girl with black hair and slim body. Great personality and just fun to be with.

I walk into C / see and at the first bar I see a pretty chica who smiles at me. I smile back and keep walking just to see if anything looked better. Fortunately for me, she was the best looking one there. Sorry Joe, I didn't see your Japanese. Mexican chica there (LOL ).

I call her over to sit with me. She comes over and I buys some drinks for us. She is very playful in the booth. If you buy her a drink, you will know what I'am taking about.

After about 1/2 hour we go upstairs. Again, the room here are $12. 00 USD. Unlike the overpriced Cascadas.

Talk about a quick 1/2 hour. Actually it was about 45 minutes before the knock on the door. I guess because it was Sunday and it was slow, no rush on the knock.

We get to the room and I lock the door. I go to the only chair in the room to take off my shoes. As I lean over, she comes over from the other side of the room and starts to kiss me. Really getting into it with dfking.

As we are making out, she starts to take my shirt off. As soon as it was over my head, she starts to kiss my whole upper chest. Flips the shirt off and as she is kissing me all over, she starts to unbuckle my belt.

I stand up to make it a little bit easier but because I still have my shoes on she just drops the pants down to my ankles and starts to give me a great BBBJ. Never asked for it so it came as a great surprise.

After about 10 minutes of the BBBJ, I quickly take my shoes off and she takes my pants off. I can't even recall when the last time a girl took off my clothes.

We then did our thing on the bed and it was so sweet!

Highly recommended. Very passionate, very beautiful, and I have to admit, one of the top 5 performances for me in Tijuana.

Brazil still has my overall top performances. But for Tijuana, you can't go wrong with this one.

She told me she works everyday except Saturdays. I believe she starts around 19:00 or later.

I know YMMV, but I think just the way she carried herself, this performance wasn't just a fluke. I think she just knows how to please a man.

Anybody seen this half Asian cutie lately. Always wanted to sample her wares but she always seems to be locked up. I haven't seen her my last couple of trips down.

[QUOTE=Immortal;1276065]Anybody seen this half Asian cutie lately. Always wanted to sample her wares but she always seems to be locked up. I haven't seen her my last couple of trips down.[/QUOTE]You need to get to Chicago Club about 6:45 pm and wait for her to arrive at work between 7 and 7:30. Done right you can be her first customer of the night, which is a better experience (all experiences with her are awesome). If you are not there when she arrives, you could be in for a long wait to be with her. As guys literally line up to be with her. If you show up later and don't see her, she is probably upstairs and if you don't hang out for an hour or so you might think she is not there. Ask one of the meseros if she is there. They will usually answer that she is upstairs.

The time was around 23:00 and I had until 23:40 to get to the parking lot to not pay extra. This was the parking lot with the special $5. 00usd for 10 hours. Pretty good deal.

So I decided to go into Chicago. It's been a while since I have been there. Talk about dead. There were probably 6 girls in the place. Even though it was a Monday, I expected a little bit more of a crowd.

I figure since it's so dead, I would use the bathroom and head on back to the border. Once done with the bathroom, I see a waiter I know and asked where are all the girls. He just smiles and says this is it.

As soon as he says it, a girl comes out of the girl's restroom. Not a knockout but pretty good looking. The waiter calls her over. I'am thinking, I'll just get her name and hook up with her next time. This way I can get back to the parking lot without the extra fee and I don't know if I could do it anyways. She would be the fourth of the day and I'am not getting any younger.

Anyways, she said her name was Ingrid. Said she was 22 but she looks a bit older. Slim like I like it. After introducing ourselves, she pulls down her bra to show off her tits. I give her a $1. 00 USD tip. She takes the dollar, turns around and places her ass against my crotch and start grinding.

She then turns around and places her mouth on my crotch. Going up and down like she was giving me head. I said lets get a booth and cool down. At this point, the extra money for the parking, was furthest from my mind.

Once in the booth, she didn't sit besides me, she sat on me. Grinding me all the way. I thought for a minute, I was in H. K. She takes down her top, she was kissing me all over and then she stuck her tongue down my ear. Once that happened, I knew I wasn't getting back to the parking lot anytime soon.

Had alot of fun in the booth then I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs. She then said how about an hour for $130. 00? I told her the highest I pay will be $60. 00 USD for the half hour. She then tells me how much better it would be for the $130. 00usd.

I then tell her because of my long drive back home, a half hour would be my limit. The next time we will make it longer. She said okay, no problem.

Upstairs, she is crazy. I mean that in a good way. Very passionate any position. 69, the only thing that would have made this session over the top, a BBBJ instead of the CBJ she gave.

I do recommend with reservations. Only because of the money issue with her trying for the hour. Yes, the session was good but there's just a hint of hard-core because of that.

She said she works everyday from 14:00 to whenever. I didn't see Ivana or Lizette. If they were there, they must have been upstairs.

[QUOTE=Quackup; 1292899]Anyways, she said her name was Ingrid. Said she was 22 but she looks a bit older. Slim like I like it. After introducing ourselves, she pulls down her bra to show off her tits. I give her a $1. 00 USD tip. She takes the dollar, turns around and places her ass against my crotch and start grinding.

She then turns around and places her mouth on my crotch. Going up and down like she was giving me head. I said lets get a booth and cool down. At this point, the extra money for the parking, was furthest from my mind.

Once in the booth, she didn't sit besides me, she sat on me. Grinding me all the way. I thought for a minute, I was in H. K. She takes down her top, she was kissing me all over and then she stuck her tongue down my ear. Once that happened, I knew I wasn't getting back to the parking lot anytime soon.

Had alot of fun in the booth then I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs. She then said how about an hour for $130. 00? I told her the highest I pay will be $60. 00 USD for the half hour. She then tells me how much better it would be for the $130. 00usd.

I then tell her because of my long drive back home, a half hour would be my limit. The next time we will make it longer. She said okay, no problem.

Upstairs, she is crazy. I mean that in a good way. Very passionate any position. 69, the only thing that would have made this session over the top, a BBBJ instead of the CBJ she gave.

I do recommend with reservations. Only because of the money issue with her trying for the hour. Yes, the session was good but there's just a hint of hard-core because of that.

She said she works everyday from 14:00 to whenever. I didn't see Ivana or Lizette. If they were there, they must have been upstairs.[/QUOTE]Ivana doesn't work Mondays, that's probably why you didn't see her. I don't know Lizette's schedule. I was wondering if you could give a better description of Ingrid that way I can keep a look out for her. Thanks.

She has black hair, slim and about 5'4". She also does the strip show there at C. C. She hasn't been working there that long but I think most of the waiters and waitress know who she is. The way she tell's it, she works some long hours there. Hope this helps and good luck. She is alot of fun but be aware when negotiating for the session.

I went into the Chicago Club on my trip to Tijuana. I went there 2 times. The first time at approx 5 pm there were maybe 2 guys and 15 women in there, none of which were that great looking. They were all trying to convince me to stay but I didn't. I thought maybe I was there too early so I came back at about midnight and there was maybe 10 men and like 30 women with still no hotties. Chicago Club was a waste of time.

Made a trip to chicago for the 1st time after a while due to travel, and generally lack of interest (because the absence of Joe in that place just makes it not feel the same) , anyway, same crowd as before, no new chicas that I could spot (or care to spot) , the really hot one (Joe please remind me her name) is no longer showing any interest in me probably because after a few times together I still have yet to take her upstairs, oh well, not missing much

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1310848]Made a trip to chicago for the 1st time after a while due to travel, and generally lack of interest (because the absence of Joe in that place just makes it not feel the same) , anyway, same crowd as before, no new chicas that I could spot (or care to spot) , the really hot one (Joe please remind me her name) is no longer showing any interest in me probably because after a few times together I still have yet to take her upstairs, oh well, not missing much[/QUOTE]Her name is Ivanna

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1310848]Made a trip to chicago for the 1st time after a while due to travel, and generally lack of interest (because the absence of Joe in that place just makes it not feel the same) , anyway, same crowd as before, no new chicas that I could spot (or care to spot) , the really hot one (Joe please remind me her name) is no longer showing any interest in me probably because after a few times together I still have yet to take her upstairs, oh well, not missing much[/QUOTE]Ivana is a great GFE experience, I had a great session with her 2 months back during which I gave her 3 Os. I walked into CC last night and sit at the bar right next to her, say hi, and she gets up and walks away. Later, I approach her about going upstairs and she blows me off, says she has an appointment with one of her clients. That served to remind me that sex is business with these girls.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1310958]Her name is Ivanna[/QUOTE]Hey buddy!

How's life?

Yes, Ivanna gives a shit 'about me no more.

[QUOTE=Chator;1311026]Ivana is a great GFE experience, I had a great session with her 2 months back during which I gave her 3 Os. I walked into CC last night and sit at the bar right next to her, say hi, and she gets up and walks away. Later, I approach her about going upstairs and she blows me off, says she has an appointment with one of her clients. That served to remind me that sex is business with these girls.[/QUOTE]That is exactly how Ivanna is. If she has an appointment with a regular big spending client. She will ignore you. So that when the client shows up he won't be pissed off

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1311039]Hey buddy!

How's life?

Yes, Ivanna gives a shit 'about me no more.[/QUOTE]I am doing GREAT. Life is GOOD. I read that you are spending a lot of money on ficha drinks. When are you going to learn my son?

Ah well, it is relative you know, the ones I spend more on takes a long time to sip their drinks, which is fine by me, the ones that pound their 2 drinks get the boot.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1311141]I am doing GREAT. Life is GOOD. I read that you are spending a lot of money on ficha drinks. When are you going to learn my son?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1311145]Ah well, it is relative you know, the ones I spend more on takes a long time to sip their drinks, which is fine by me, the ones that pound their 2 drinks get the boot.[/QUOTE]I don't really understand the ficha "system". I haven't really been buying them at all. Usually I just check out the selection and when I pick one out, I approach her and negotiate a price to go to the room. I don't use the meseros either. I'm not cheap, I just feel like I'm getting played if I let the bar take a bigger cut than is required. It's the girl that earns the money.

I did buy one ficha for a girl in Adelitas the other night, which was useful because it gave me an opening to feel her tits and verify they were fake. Not into bolt-ons.

[QUOTE=Treading Water; 1320644]I don't really understand the ficha "system". I haven't really been buying them at all. Usually I just check out the selection and when I pick one out, I approach her and negotiate a price to go to the room. I don't use the meseros either. I'm not cheap, I just feel like I'm getting played if I let the bar take a bigger cut than is required. It's the girl that earns the money.

I did buy one ficha for a girl in Adelitas the other night, which was useful because it gave me an opening to feel her tits and verify they were fake. Not into bolt-ons.[/QUOTE]So that's one reason for you to buy a girl a drink. For me, it is worth $10 to have a chance to talk with a girl for a few minutes to decide if she is worth spending $75 on upstairs. Is she fun? Is she aggressive or passive? If she rushes the drink, will she rush my time? Are her tits fake (I agree with you on the man-mades)

And don't forget that the girls are required to earn a certain number of fichas per night. Even though the girl doesn't get all of the cost of a ficha, it still benefits her.

[QUOTE=KC Questor;1320741]. decide if she is worth spending $75 on upstairs.[/QUOTE]$75, you really are gettin' fucked.

[QUOTE=KC Questor; 1320741]So that's one reason for you to buy a girl a drink. For me, it is worth $10 to have a chance to talk with a girl for a few minutes to decide if she is worth spending $75 on upstairs. Is she fun? Is she aggressive or passive? If she rushes the drink, will she rush my time? Are her tits fake (I agree with you on the man-mades)

And don't forget that the girls are required to earn a certain number of fichas per night. Even though the girl doesn't get all of the cost of a ficha, it still benefits her.[/QUOTE]It occured to me after I wrote the earlier post that it probably matters a lot that I speak practicaly no spanish. My spanish is pathetic. If it was better, or if the girls were better with english, it would be more fun for me to buy them some drinks and get to know them.

[QUOTE=KC Questor;1320741]And don't forget that the girls are required to earn a certain number of fichas per night.[/QUOTE]What bar in the Zona has that requirement?

[QUOTE=SunLion69;1320760]$75, you really are gettin' fucked.[/QUOTE]I believe that he was referring to $60 for the prostitute and $15 for the room. Which I believe adds up to $75.

I have heard that adelitas has that requirement for chicas who are not dancers. Which means, most of them, and most of them probably can't even meet that ficha requirement. Which means they are forever fucked (both, figuratively, and literally)

I had a regular in HK who claims the same, but says that for her, it is flexible, because the club has seen many asian guys going gaga over her, so instead of daily quota, she spreads it out over a week.

All just chatter I hear, would be interesting to know other opinions.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1320822]What bar in the Zona has that requirement?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1320947]I have heard that adelitas has that requirement for chicas who are not dancers. Which means, most of them, and most of them probably can't even meet that ficha requirement. Which means they are forever fucked (both, figuratively, and literally)

I had a regular in HK who claims the same, but says that for her, it is flexible, because the club has seen many asian guys going gaga over her, so instead of daily quota, she spreads it out over a week.

All just chatter I hear, would be interesting to know other opinions.[/QUOTE]It is just chatter! If the girls in CC had a ficha requirement, they would all be fucked, except a choice few, and you know those few.

Having said (typed) that, I'm sure that some girls tell the dudes that there is a ficha requirement, just so they respond and buy a couple!

<<update: sorry wrong board, will move to general>>

Got in touch with a long lost chica last night over text, asked her when I can see her again and she responded with "manana", game on.

Ok well, in the morning, I got text from her suggesting that I should spend the night in Tijuana, but oh well.

Finished my work early and went down, originally, she wanted to meet at one of the restaurants in zona Rio, which is where I was heading, just as I was halfway there, she texted to meet me at centro, fucking women.

So I went, and she was customarily late, I haven't seen her in almost a month, her attitude is as cute as before, but she put on a little weight, and had a minor outbreak (face, not down there) , anyway, I overlooked that quickly.

We decided to head to a japanese restaurant (incidentally she still doesn't eat raw fish though I ordered a salmon ceviche anyway to break her in) , and we got ourselves a chicken teppanyaki, a chicken teriyaki. She then wanted to order some sake (and I was thinking to myself, what the fuck, can't she see what price this is?) , but anyway, my inside was screaming, but I put on a straight face as we had a nice meal together, the last one was a long time ago and the total, with tips, came out to be about 620 pesos. Manageable.

Sometime during the meal, her best friend called her, and she conveyed to me something about having to pay something today, anyway, I was a little lost, sometimes they just assume that my spanish is too fucking good.

After the meal, we headed out, and it turned out that her friend was dropping by, and that I was the person who was going to loan her friend the money, what. The. Fuck. Well, I know her friend, and she's a nice girl, but that was just too fucking ridiculous. Anyway, at that split moment, I almost felt like (ok, discard almost, I did) a chump when she was looking at me hand the money to her friend, I must have that stupid look on my face and I was dumb founded for a while because they both asked me if everything was ok (in my mind I was thinking, what the fuck do you think) , anyway, I temporarily loaned the friend 160.

Before she took off back to playas to pay for whatever she needed to pay, she dropped me and my chica at plaza Rio, and we went to catch a movie (a pretty forgettable one, I won't even mention) , and after that, we headed to starbucks and got 2 coffee, a tart for about 150 pesos. We hung out there for a while until she was eyeing some dude close to our table, and 5 mins later, she said to leave, I asked her if its someone she knew but she said, no that guy keeps looking at me, anyway, I didn't press further.

We walked around plaza Rio talking about the usual pleasantries at which point I thought it made no sense for us to waste any more time, so I said how about we go back to revolucion, you got time? Lets go to hotel, and she told me of course, when we got to revu, I think part of her was still trying to get me to stay the night because she kept gesturing to ticuan but instead I opted for a short time hotel that we have frequented before. 3 horas for 160 pesos.

In the room, we made out for a long time, oh boy, we really made out, not the slutty kind, but she was really passionate with her kisses, and getting closer each time (long story short, she actually is not that great of a fuck as far as working girls go, and she still has hygiene issues but it just means more for me when she gets more passionate) , about an hour of that later, we went to do the deed and I banged her real good, during this time of making out, and banging, we were chatting on and off, about stuff, nothing specific, just showing some care for each others lives.

When we ended and were resting, she got a call from her friend from the morning, and it turns out that she was in revu, to return my money.

That. Was. Shocking.

I was feeling resentful for the last few hours, and somewhat upset, and thinking about how I was going to pay my girl with the limited money I have in my wallet, and her friend came back to pay me.

Ok. Fine, she asked me if I can spot her 10 bux for the taxi home, so I did that, whatever.

But I almost felt mad at myself for doubting her / them in the 1st place.

My girl was almost going to try and convince me to spend some more time with her but to be honest, I was getting a little tired, her high heels were getting in the way of walking / dancing, and, it was probably better to just go home. Her friend went to grab a cab first we hugged goodbye, and while I was giving my girl a big bear hug and a long kiss goodbye, I put 100 bux in her purse,

My first time outside with her, we sort of agreed on 100 per session and that was the only time she ever asked for money directly from me for sex.

Over time, I have gone from giving her the money directly, and saying something, to just giving her, without saying, to giving her discreetly, to giving her, without needing her to see it.

She has never counted the money anyway.

Hopefully, one day I won't need to give her (but then, that is when the other shit adds up.)

So, she was with me from 2:30 to 11 today, for a total of 8:30 hours.

(all costs rounded to nearest) I spent 5 for incoming taxi. 5 with her to restaurant. 5 to plaza Rio. 5 to revo. 5 to linea for 25 total in taxi.

I spent about 50 for food. 10 for coffee. 6 for movie for 66 total

I gave her friend 10

I paid 12 for the room.

I paid her 100.

This gives me a grand total of something slightly north of 200 for 8. 5 hrs. Which I think is pretty good, and to be honest, the surprises I get from this girl is never-ending, and it in itself is probably worth a fraction of the cost I paid

I know I know

Just that my HK regular, she is the rare few that takes 2 hrs to sip 1 ficha I pay for her, and I never paid for arriba with her (except the 1st time)

Now for the other chumps (including myself, sometimes) , yeah it works.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1320958]It is just chatter! If the girls in CC had a ficha requirement, they would all be fucked, except a choice few, and you know those few.

Having said (typed) that, I'm sure that some girls tell the dudes that there is a ficha requirement, just so they respond and buy a couple![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1320822]What bar in the Zona has that requirement?[/QUOTE]Are you serious?
All of 'em!

CC used to have a rather strict system. Among other things, if a chica wanted to work weekends, she had to work a certain number of weekdays, too. And, if memory serves (which it often does not) they had to have 2 fichas per arriba. However, since business at CC is a fraction of what it was a couple of years ago, I'm sure they've done away with most of that.

If the bars didn't mandate ficha drink sales, nobody would pay inflated prices for tiny beers. The bar is there to sell drinks, not to simply facilitate liasons.

Each bar seems to have their own variation on a common theme - Some sort of mechanism to ensure ficha sales. Of course, if you're a consistent earner you can probably do as you please. In any case, the girls turn in their fichas nightly, and they're logged. When the girl goes arriba, it's logged, too. Management doesn't do all that bookkeeping just for its health. If little Maria is going arriba 3 times a night, and has no fichas to show for it, you know she's going to be on the business end of a rather stern lecture.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1321138]Are you serious? .

The bar is there to sell drinks, not to simply facilitate liasons.[/QUOTE]This is why most of these bars are failing! If someone would understand that people are more prone to drink when they are having a good time versus being forced to buy a drink to have a good time then there wouldn't be any ficha requirements. They would be selling them regardless.

The same person who recognizes this would also recognize that you can't sell fichas for the same price as HK if you aren't offering what HK does. What to do? "Keep it sleazy" would be one idea.

On a serious note though we really don't know what the inner dealings of the zona are. Maybe "rules" make it tough to operate a business the way you want. Maybe there isn't a free market due to corruption.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1321138]Are you serious? .

All of 'them!

CC used to have a rather strict system. Among other things, if a chica wanted to work weekends, she had to work a certain number of weekdays, too. And, if memory serves (which it often does not) they had to have 2 fichas per arriba. However, since business at CC is a fraction of what it was a couple of years ago, I'm sure they've done away with most of that.

If the bars didn't mandate ficha drink sales, nobody would pay inflated prices for tiny beers. The bar is there to sell drinks, not to simply facilitate liasons.

Each bar seems to have their own variation on a common theme. Some sort of mechanism to ensure ficha sales. Of course, if you're a consistent earner you can probably do as you please. In any case, the girls turn in their fichas nightly, and they're logged. When the girl goes arriba, it's logged, too. Management doesn't do all that bookkeeping just for its health. If little Maria is going arriba 3 times a night, and has no fichas to show for it, you know she's going to be on the business end of a rather stern lecture.[/QUOTE]This isn't true at all. I mongered in many places and bought drinks w / o being forced ever. Brazil comes to mind. The constant harrasment is annoying and makes you not be able to relax. If Hong kong didn't have all the hot chicks no one would go. CC was annoying as hell when they were busy a few years back. Try and force people now. You don't have the chicks anymore. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1321144]This is why most of these bars are failing! If someone would understand that people are more prone to drink when they are having a good time versus being forced to buy a drink to have a good time then there wouldn't be any ficha requirements. They would be selling them regardless.

The same person who recognizes this would also recognize that you can't sell fichas for the same price as HK if you aren't offering what HK does. What to do?"Keep it sleazy" would be one idea.

On a serious note though we really don't know what the inner dealings of the zona are. Maybe "rules" make it tough to operate a business the way you want. Maybe there isn't a free market due to corruption.[/QUOTE]I wish HK would agree with you. There are so many fucking waiters in there, its a buzz kill. I wish they would dumb half of them and just have the rest walk around and wait for us to call them over.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1321605]This isn't true at all. I mongered in many places and bought drinks w / o being forced ever. Brazil comes to mind. The constant harrasment is annoying and makes you not be able to relax. If Hong kong didn't have all the hot chicks no one would go. CC was annoying as hell when they were busy a few years back. Try and force people now. You don't have the chicks anymore. Sorry.[/QUOTE]I was referring the the bars in the zona, not Brazil. Perhaps they're one of the few exceptions. But, now that you mention it, US strip clubs require lady drinks if you want to chat with the dancers. At least they did last time I was in one, which was a very long time ago. All the Thai bars do. And if you think HK is bad, I can show you a few in Saigon that would put them to shame.

I, too, hate the annoyance factor, and don't go to HK much. They could make it a much more enjoyable experience for everybody, but they don't want to. Their current business model makes them shitloads of money as it is."If it ain't broke, don't fix it" must be their motto. And "If you don't want to put up with our shit, there are 50 guys behind you who will." Should CC regain its former status, you can bet your ass they'll start doing the same annoying things as before.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1320903]I believe that he was referring to $60 for the prostitute and $15 for the room. Which I believe adds up to $75.[/QUOTE]That is correct

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1320958]It is just chatter! If the girls in CC had a ficha requirement, they would all be fucked, except a choice few, and you know those few.[/QUOTE]You know more about the Tijuana scene than I, obviously, and I haven't been to CC in many years. But I would ask, if there is no ficha requirement, why would a woman turn down cash in exchange for a ficha drink where she would get a smaller amount? A number of times at HK and AB, when a girl asked if I would buy her a drink, I responded that I would rather the money went to her instead of the club. I offered to give her an amount less than the ficha drink costs, but more than she would get as her share. I was turned down every time.

My conclusion was that a girl would rather get $2 and credit for a ficha, instead of $5 cash.

[QUOTE=KC Questor; 1321685]You know more about the Tijuana scene than I, obviously, and I haven't been to CC in many years. But I would ask, if there is no ficha requirement, why would a woman turn down cash in exchange for a ficha drink where she would get a smaller amount? A number of times at HK and AB, when a girl asked if I would buy her a drink, I responded that I would rather the money went to her instead of the club. I offered to give her an amount less than the ficha drink costs, but more than she would get as her share. I was turned down every time.

My conclusion was that a girl would rather get $2 and credit for a ficha, instead of $5 cash.[/QUOTE]Your observations are correct. Hustling fichas is a mandatory part of the job.

[QUOTE=KC Questor; 1321685]You know more about the Tijuana scene than I, obviously, and I haven't been to CC in many years. But I would ask, if there is no ficha requirement, why would a woman turn down cash in exchange for a ficha drink where she would get a smaller amount? A number of times at HK and AB, when a girl asked if I would buy her a drink, I responded that I would rather the money went to her instead of the club. I offered to give her an amount less than the ficha drink costs, but more than she would get as her share. I was turned down every time.

My conclusion was that a girl would rather get $2 and credit for a ficha, instead of $5 cash.[/QUOTE]The club I know the best is HK, and there is NO ficha requirement in the club. I believe once in a day there was in many of the clubs, but in this slow economic times, that requirement went away. The clubs just want customers that buy drinks. But I will do a recon tomorrow and get the real scoop.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1321647]I was referring the the bars in the zona, not Brazil. Perhaps they're one of the few exceptions. But, now that you mention it, US strip clubs require lady drinks if you want to chat with the dancers. At least they did last time I was in one, which was a very long time ago. All the Thai bars do. And if you think HK is bad, I can show you a few in Saigon that would put them to shame.

I, too, hate the annoyance factor, and don't go to HK much. They could make it a much more enjoyable experience for everybody, but they don't want to. Their current business model makes them shitloads of money as it is."If it ain't broke, don't fix it" must be their motto. And "If you don't want to put up with our shit, there are 50 guys behind you who will." Should CC regain its former status, you can bet your ass they'll start doing the same annoying things as before. [/QUOTE]Strip clubs in america will have a one drink minimum to sit at the stage or 10.00 entrance fee that comes with a drink. I'm cool with that, but the waitress at spearmint rhino don't say drink! Drink! Every 5 seconds. I could be walking to the bathroom- Drink! Drink! I buy a girl a drink and they are there Drink! I can't breathe! I am actually thinking of not tipping them anymore, so they won't come to my table anymore.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1321953]Strip clubs in america will have a one drink minimum to sit at the stage or 10. 00 entrance fee that comes with a drink. I'm cool with that, but the waitress at spearmint rhino don't say drink! Drink! Every 5 seconds. I could be walking to the bathroom- Drink! Drink! I buy a girl a drink and they are there Drink! I can't breathe! I am actually thinking of not tipping them anymore, so they won't come to my table anymore.[/QUOTE]The last time I was in a US strip club, besides the cover charge, they had some outrageous fee for a lady drink, if you wanted one of the dancers to sit with you. And it was timed. Something like 15 minutes per drink, IIRC. But, as I say, I haven't been to a USA club in years. I don't see the point of pissing away tons of money for little or nothing in return. I just wait and head for the border when convenient.

Quota or no quota, management tells the meseros to hustle ficha drinks. It's annoying as hell, but some guys put up with it. That's why I prefer to patronize other clubs where the pressure isn't so great. On top of that, I don't think the meseros get a salary. I think they survive on tips. I'm not 100% sure on that, but, if true, the combination of management pressure and no salary keeps them hanging aroung like a bad fart.

P. S. If you really want to be hustled for REALLY EXPENSIVE ficha drinks, hang out at a few clubs in Costa Rica. OMG.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1322097].

Quota or no quota, management tells the meseros to hustle ficha drinks. It's annoying as hell, but some guys put up with it. That's why I prefer to patronize other clubs where the pressure isn't so great. On top of that, I don't think the meseros get a salary. I think they survive on tips. I'm not 100% sure on that, but, if true, the combination of management pressure and no salary keeps them hanging aroung like a bad fart.

P. S. If you really want to be hustled for REALLY EXPENSIVE ficha drinks, hang out at a few clubs in Costa Rica. OMG.[/QUOTE]This info is specific to Adelitas, but since this ficha discussion is going on in Chicago thread, I'll post here.

Last night I went up with a friend from Adelita's. After our sesh, while she was reapplying makeup, and primping herself, she started to tell me she was planning to take the WHOLE of next week off.

I asked her if her boss allowed her that flexibility, and she said that she wasn't planning on asking, but that when she got back on Friday, he would probably insist that she acquire 20 ficha tickets. DOUBLE that of a regular day in which she needed to get 10 tickets.

She also told me that for every time she goes arriba, she was expected to get 3 ficha tickets.

In all cases described above, if she didn't meet her quota, she would have to pay the difference herself.

Is this information reliable? Who knows, but at the least I think it suggests that there actually is a standard quota for ficha tickets that the girls need to meet.

As I mentioned being a Midwest native Chicago Club was a must see for me. I know its just a name. But still. Not much to say about this place other than it was a bust. Nice place but not much talent and way better places out there. Had a beer with my buddy and left. No pushy waiters, no chicas. In and out. Might visit again as a place to "recuperate"

[QUOTE=PimpinIt; 1327870]I asked her if her boss allowed her that flexibility, and she said that she wasn't planning on asking, but that when she got back on Friday, he would probably insist that she acquire 20 ficha tickets. DOUBLE that of a regular day in which she needed to get 10 tickets.

She also told me that for every time she goes arriba, she was expected to get 3 ficha tickets.

In all cases described above, if she didn't meet her quota, she would have to pay the difference herself.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the current quota is for Adelitas, but they have had a similar quota system in the past. If a girl is MIA for her shifts, she typically gets penalties like increased fichas, mandatory shifts in a row, or having sex / BJ with the door guy Mario (I think that's his name).

Before Adelitas used to have a sliding scale on the number of fichas required for going upstairs (a few tickets if you just went up 1-2 times up to a max of 10 if you went up more than 4 times) , but with less business I could see them making a flat ficha tax on the girls per trip arriba.

Hi,

I always go in here since I am from Chicago it always seems lame though I think last week I saw a girl that looked like she had huge tits or they were pushed up big. Also the shirts are darn expensive there like 50 bucks. At Adelitas I bought a shirt for 10 bucks at The Adelitas store.

If some one can prove me wrong on this place post here or pm me.

Byes,

Nibu

[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael; 1349534]Hi,

I always go in here since I am from Chicago it always seems lame though I think last week I saw a girl that looked like she had huge tits or they were pushed up big. Also the shirts are darn expensive there like 50 bucks. At Adelitas I bought a shirt for 10 bucks at The Adelitas store.

If some one can prove me wrong on this place post here or pm me.

Byes,

Nibu[/QUOTE]Prove you wrong about what? Not sure I understand what your asking. As for Chicago Club it not like it was back in the 90's. Its pretty dead now days. Not sure why or what happen to the place but it used to be one of the best places.

[QUOTE=FlapJacK;1349785]Prove you wrong about what? Not sure I understand what your asking. As for Chicago Club it not like it was back in the 90's. Its pretty dead now days. Not sure why or what happen to the place but it used to be one of the best places.[/QUOTE]I can tell you what happened, I'm a local and I was friend's with several of the girls and one of the old waiters, actually the son of this waiter went to college with me, the old man is now retired and his son is an engineer, proves you that sometimes good things come out of this places.

Anyway, the stupid owner of CC decided to kick out the yellow cab company that used to park in front of the club, they used to bring old and new customers to the place, when ever a taxi cab driver would pick up someone who was looking for action and didn't know how to get to la zona they would bring them to Chicago, that was their competitive advantage back in the 90's against Adelitas which always has based its advantage on Barbie like girls.

Well, somebody gave him the idea to kick out the yellow cab company and replace them with another company to save on kickbacks, the yellow cab company kept doing business in la zona and even started talking shit against CC telling newbies the place was a tourist trap and they would steal their money and things like that, it wasn't long before no new business was coming in, the girls noticed and starting looking for other places to work.

And that's that! You know what they say, don't fix it if it isn't broken.

Keep monguering guys.

Jim.

I used to know a stripper here in Phoenix that worked bars in Tijuana and she told me that the toughest thing about working in a Tijuana strip club was the drinks. Not selling them but drinking them. She said she would sell so many drinks to keep these quotas that we are all talking about and it would make her so drunk by the end of the shift that she could hardly walk out of there. She hated it because of this. She was a very small lady so she simply could not drink that much. To me it would seem that it would make more sense to maybe take a percentage of the costs on the arriba. That way the bar could still make money. Personally I do not really want to fuck a lady that is so intoxicated that she can not even stand up!

[QUOTE=PimpinIt; 1327870]This info is specific to Adelitas, but since this ficha discussion is going on in Chicago thread, I'll post here.

Last night I went up with a friend from Adelita's. After our sesh, while she was reapplying makeup, and primping herself, she started to tell me she was planning to take the WHOLE of next week off.

I asked her if her boss allowed her that flexibility, and she said that she wasn't planning on asking, but that when she got back on Friday, he would probably insist that she acquire 20 ficha tickets. DOUBLE that of a regular day in which she needed to get 10 tickets.

She also told me that for every time she goes arriba, she was expected to get 3 ficha tickets.

In all cases described above, if she didn't meet her quota, she would have to pay the difference herself.

Is this information reliable? Who knows, but at the least I think it suggests that there actually is a standard quota for ficha tickets that the girls need to meet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempe Jon;1357606]I used to know a stripper here in Phoenix that worked bars in Tijuana and she told me that the toughest thing about working in a Tijuana strip club was the drinks. Not selling them but drinking them. She said she would sell so many drinks to keep these quotas that we are all talking about and it would make her so drunk by the end of the shift that she could hardly walk out of there. She hated it because of this. She was a very small lady so she simply could not drink that much. To me it would seem that it would make more sense to maybe take a percentage of the costs on the arriba. That way the bar could still make money. Personally I do not really want to fuck a lady that is so intoxicated that she can not even stand up![/QUOTE]In Tijuana, the girls do not have to order an alcoholic drink for the fichas. I once paid 8 fucking bucks for a plastic cup of tasty ice water!

Well, it is adult 'disney' after all.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1357675]In Tijuana, the girls do not have to order an alcoholic drink for the fichas. I once paid 8 fucking bucks for a plastic cup of tasty ice water![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1357675]In Tijuana, the girls do not have to order an alcoholic drink for the fichas. I once paid 8 fucking bucks for a plastic cup of tasty ice water![/QUOTE]Many of the bars also have 7-Up in the small ficha beer bottles. Occasionally I'll check the girl's beer just to see. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Doesn't matter to me, there is no way anybody can work the kinds of hours the girls work, drink alcohol for their entire shift, and not have major health problems in a short amount of time. Not to mention the weight gain.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1357704]Many of the bars also have 7-Up in the small ficha beer bottles. Occasionally I'll check the girl's beer just to see. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Doesn't matter to me, there is no way anybody can work the kinds of hours the girls work, drink alcohol for their entire shift, and not have major health problems in a short amount of time. Not to mention the weight gain.[/QUOTE]Most don't. In fact Hong Kong is the first where I saw girls drink at all for the most part. Baby buds. But at least they drink. Most like Pineapple Juice on the rocks. My old lady told me that's all she ever drank, or cranberry juice. She said one American demanded she drink Jack Daniels so she would reach behind his back like she was getting close and dump them out on the floor. He ended out getting hammered and couldn't understand why she was still standing. He dropped $1200. 00 that night on VIP and table dances. She came home at 9:s0 with 12 crisp $100 bills stone sober. We enjoyed that cash.

What surprises me is that they can get so intoxicated and still walk down steep steps wearing those 6" fuck me pumps.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1357979]What surprises me is that they can get so intoxicated and still walk down steep steps wearing those 6" fuck me pumps.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there on the 21st I saw one laying at the bottom of those stairs trying to pick herself up.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1357979]What surprises me is that they can get so intoxicated and still walk down steep steps wearing those 6" fuck me pumps.[/QUOTE]Do you have shoulder lemgth white hair by any chance? You were at Hong Kong the same night as me because I read your posts. I remeber seeing a guy up against wall behind the bar area with a blond about 30 cozied up next to him. Thought it might of been you. I grabbed the little Asian / mexican that goes by Alexis and road her hard that night. Tiny little thing.

[QUOTE=The Hammer1169;1357993]Do you have shoulder lemgth white hair by any chance? You were at Hong Kong the same night as me because I read your posts. I remeber seeing a guy up against wall behind the bar area with a blond about 30 cozied up next to him. Thought it might of been you. I grabbed the little Asian / mexican that goes by Alexis and road her hard that night. Tiny little thing.[/QUOTE]Nope, not me. But I spent plenty of time cozied up next to various Mexican hotties.

I was down in Tijuana last night and stopped by CC. I heard a rumor about Ivana being missing so I asked one of the waiters. My spanish isn't that great but I think he said something along the lines of it was contract hit, it had something to do with Hong Kong, and she was chopped up in pieces!

If you're not sure who she was, she was a petite Latina. Loved hanging with Asian guys. Always put on one of the greatest floor shows at CC and an even better one arriba. One of the rare ones that generally seemed to enjoy her job.

[QUOTE=DaveSD; 1361515]I was down in Tijuana last night and stopped by CC. I heard a rumor about Ivana being missing so I asked one of the waiters. My spanish isn't that great but I think he said something along the lines of it was contract hit, it had something to do with Hong Kong, and she was chopped up in pieces!

If you're not sure who she was, she was a petite Latina. Loved hanging with Asian guys. Always put on one of the greatest floor shows at CC and an even better one arriba. One of the rare ones that generally seemed to enjoy her job.[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe Ivana was murdered, or is dead, then again, maybe I just don't understand how dangerous life is for these girls. Ivana was definately the hottest dancer at CC. I had one great night with her back in April. It helped to remind me of why I go to Tijuana, to get with a hot girls like her that I could never get back home. I hope it isn't true.

I saw her last working in Hong Kong on November 22nd. She was having drinks with a guy and did a strip show.

However I didn't see her last Saturday when I was there. I doubt if she was murdered, most likely she is on a well deserved vacation.

Thats horrible if its true.

I'm actually interested to know of news that happens in the bars. Do they have a local newspaper / website that talks about these kinds of things or would it just be in a standard Tijuana newspaper.

[QUOTE=Efjayel; 1363155]Thats horrible if its true.

I'm actually interested to know of news that happens in the bars. Do they have a local newspaper / website that talks about these kinds of things or would it just be in a standard Tijuana newspaper.[/QUOTE]It would be a real shame, the last time she txted me was in mid-nov, and then she just disappeared

[QUOTE=Efjayel; 1363155]Thats horrible if its true.

I'm actually interested to know of news that happens in the bars. Do they have a local newspaper / website that talks about these kinds of things or would it just be in a standard Tijuana newspaper.[/QUOTE]Frontera.Info

Tijuana newspaper with all the dirt.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1363545]It would be a real shame, the last time she txted me was in mid-nov, and then she just disappeared[/QUOTE]That doesn't mean she's dead. My favorita from PR years ago suddenly disappeared. I later found out she had gotten married and pregnant, and decided to give up the business. I found this out from one of her coworkers.

Chator

It's pretty much confirmed. I talked to a few guys who heard the exact same thing as I did. Her dismembered body was found in Rosarito in the beginning of Dec. Like the 5th or 6th.

The main suspect is her ex-boyfriend who was also the DJ at CC. He's since gone M. I. A.

The link to the story: rosaritoenlanoticia2. ********. Com / 2012/12 / descubren-el-torso-de-una-mujer-why. Html? M=1#more

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1363566]Frontera. Info.

Tijuana newspaper with all the dirt.[/QUOTE]thanks .

[QUOTE=DaveSD; 1364181]It's pretty much confirmed. I talked to a few guys who heard the exact same thing as I did. Her dismembered body was found in Rosarito in the beginning of Dec. Like the 5th or 6th.

The main suspect is her ex-boyfriend who was also the DJ at CC. He's since gone M. I. A.

The link to the story: rosaritoenlanoticia2. Com / 2012/12 / descubren-el-torso-de-una-mujer-why. Html? M=1#more[/QUOTE]I looked up that story. The identity of the body parts is unnamed, but maybe you're right. That's pretty gruesome. So the ex hired someone to slaughter her?

I just returned from my travels and still trying to wrap my head around this story, it is pretty gruesome, she may have had her attitude problems, but this is just messed up, I can only wonder what will happen to her child.

Anyone know if this has stirred up anything else within the club?

[QUOTE=Chator;1364589]I looked up that story. The identity of the body parts is unnamed, but maybe you're right. That's pretty gruesome. So the ex hired someone to slaughter her?[/QUOTE]

Or what all this really means is that the girl found a guy who will marry her, moved away to start a family and wants no one in per past (like us) to look her up.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1368651]Or what all this really means is that the girl found a guy who will marry her, moved away to start a family and wants no one in per past (like us) to look her up.[/QUOTE]If that's all that happened then somebody in the club she was close to should be able to confirm it. I think its out of the question that she faked her death, or told people at the club to make up stories that she was murdered. In the USA. 1 in 500 prostitutes ends up dead, making it one of the most dangerous professions. I wonder what the stats are for prostitutes in Mexico. It must be alot worse.

Very cute girl. Kinda looks like venecia at HK. They can be sisters. Bought her a couple of drinks and decided to go upstairs with her. She provided your basic services that you would get at any of the clubs. And that's where I was a little let down. This is not her fault and that's due to me being spoiled by my fav's in Tijuana. She is friendly and not business like but still a newbie to this line of work. She speaks little to none english but google translator came in handy. They have wi-fi there so its a perk if you need to get online.

[QUOTE=Chator;1369156]If that's all that happened then somebody in the club she was close to should be able to confirm it. I think its out of the question that she faked her death, or told people at the club to make up stories that she was murdered. In the USA. 1 in 500 prostitutes ends up dead, making it one of the most dangerous professions. I wonder what the stats are for prostitutes in Mexico. It must be alot worse.[/QUOTE]From my very trusted sources inside of Chicago Club. Ivanna is indeed dead. The story that I got from everybody including the manager Miguel is that she started to live with the DJ, Omar and that they got into a fight about her stealing money out of his bank account. She stabbed him first and then he went berzerk and killed her. To try to cover it up he cut off her arms and legs and fake tits and stuffed her in a suitcase and left the suitcase in Rosarito. He ended up in the hospital from the wounds that she gave him. A couple of gals that work in Chicago went to visit him in the hospital and he confessed to killing her to them and told them the above story.

I can't swear that it is true but it is from some very trusted sources that I have at Chicago Club

The tallest Mexican stripper I have ever seen was dancing Saturday night. Her and maybe 4 other chicas were it.

Decided to check out Chicago Friday night around 10:00 pm. I had not been to the Zona at night for a while. And it was the first time in a long time on a weekend night. All the girls I know were gone. The place was very dimly lit, probably trying not to let you see clearly the old and worn out chicas. There were about 6 to 7 chicas and 2 to 3 customers. Has anyone any idea what time this place warms up and if there are any doable chicas. Any info will be appreciated.

Then I went to Tropical, AB, LC. All these places were going through a huge sausage fest, I am sure HK would be more so. You would have to find a mesero yourself in order to get a beer. It was hard to move around and hard to find tables and seats. All places were full of chicas and chicos. I don't know if it was because of the ComicCon in SD or this is just normal for a Friday night. Any ideas folks?

The contrast between Chicago and the rest is so huge.

[QUOTE=LeoRyder;1599778]Decided to check out Chicago Friday night around 10:00 pm. I had not been to the Zona at night for a while. And it was the first time in a long time on a weekend night. All the girls I know were gone. The place was very dimly lit, probably trying not to let you see clearly the old and worn out chicas. There were about 6 to 7 chicas and 2 to 3 customers. Has anyone any idea what time this place warms up and if there are any doable chicas. Any info will be appreciated.

Then I went to Tropical, AB, LC. All these places were going through a huge sausage fest, I am sure HK would be more so. You would have to find a mesero yourself in order to get a beer. It was hard to move around and hard to find tables and seats. All places were full of chicas and chicos. I don't know if it was because of the ComicCon in SD or this is just normal for a Friday night. Any ideas folks?

The contrast between Chicago and the rest is so huge.[/QUOTE]It's pretty normal, these days. I was there Saturday with Rocky the Flying Squirrel. She wanted to visit, The last time she was there, CC was the place to be and always jumping.

We came in about 11:30-ish, IIRC. In the old days it would have been wall-to-wall people by then. There were about a dozen ladies and about as many customers. I could only spot 2 or 3 "free" ladies. We watched the strip show for a while. Nobody was tipping, as there was almost nobody in the club. There was a tall pretty one with great abs but totally fake boobs and ass who collected about $5 in tips. Another got 1 or 2 bucks, others got nothing. And all the tipping was from one table.

We left after one beer.

No, CC has been a shadow of its former self for the last 5 years or more. When HK expanded it really put a crimp in their business.

Having said this, I will point out that, while I rarely go to the zona these days, I have never had a bad session in CC. The ladies tend to be a bit more mature and not nearly as hard-core as those in HK. The sessions always tended to be more relaxed and enjoyable. So, if you want a quieter place, and don't mind not ogling 19 year olds, then CC may be a good option.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1600806]It's pretty normal, these days. I was there Saturday with Rocky the Flying Squirrel. She wanted to visit, The last time she was there, CC was the place to be and always jumping.

We came in about 11:30-ish, IIRC. In the old days it would have been wall-to-wall people by then. There were about a dozen ladies and about as many customers. I could only spot 2 or 3 "free" ladies. We watched the strip show for a while. Nobody was tipping, as there was almost nobody in the club. There was a tall pretty one with great abs but totally fake boobs and ass who collected about $5 in tips. Another got 1 or 2 bucks, others got nothing. And all the tipping was from one table.

We left after one beer.

No, CC has been a shadow of its former self for the last 5 years or more. When HK expanded it really put a crimp in their business.

Having said this, I will point out that, while I rarely go to the zona these days, I have never had a bad session in CC. The ladies tend to be a bit more mature and not nearly as hard-core as those in HK. The sessions always tended to be more relaxed and enjoyable. So, if you want a quieter place, and don't mind not ogling 19 year olds, then CC may be a good option.[/QUOTE]Thank you amigo. I always enjoy your "Flying Squirrel" reports. I truly miss the good old days in CC. Hopefully, it will make a comeback. Last time I was there, they were tearing down the hotel and doing some renovations. It does need a complete facelift. I saw the owner a while back, a middle aged man. One chica told me that he simply just would like to keep the club as it was with a low profile. I had no idea if it was due to the feud among the club owners.

I totally agree with you that the chicas at CC provide great service. I also heard that the owner of HK, TB and LC died at the age of 70 something while a HK chica was on top of him riding him CG. Now the sons took over. Anyway, that was a hell of a way to go, don't you think?

Salud, tenga un buen verano.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1600806]CC has been a shadow of its former self for the last 5 years or more. When HK expanded it really put a crimp in their business.[/QUOTE]During what may have been my one and only trip to Tijuana ever, I had to stop by the world famous Chicago Club. I stopped in there late in the afternoon on a Thursday, and the place was totally dead. I was met at the door by an unattractive, fat anciana who was trying to convince me to stay and have a drink. She said, "Stay and have a drink. We can go arriba and I'll give you a nice massage and we sucky, fucky". There was like only one other woman in the club and maybe one other customer. I turned around and left and never went back. A total waste of time in my opinion. What the hell happened here anyway? I mean, there are so many chicas available to work that I would think that there's more than enough room in town for another booming puta palace en la zona. Another two or three! What gives? Why has this place tanked so badly? Maybe somebody pissed off the wrong people or something? Not paying off the right folks? Anybody here really have the real scoop on this place and why its fallen off so much?

[QUOTE=TheCane;1600879]During what may have been my one and only trip to Tijuana ever, I had to stop by the world famous Chicago Club. I stopped in there late in the afternoon on a Thursday, and the place was totally dead. I was met at the door by an unattractive, fat anciana who was trying to convince me to stay and have a drink. She said, "Stay and have a drink. We can go arriba and I'll give you a nice massage and we sucky, fucky". There was like only one other woman in the club and maybe one other customer. I turned around and left and never went back. A total waste of time in my opinion. What the hell happened here anyway? I mean, there are so many chicas available to work that I would think that there's more than enough room in town for another booming puta palace en la zona. Another two or three! What gives? Why has this place tanked so badly? Maybe somebody pissed off the wrong people or something? Not paying off the right folks? Anybody here really have the real scoop on this place and why its fallen off so much?[/QUOTE]There has to be a reason behind it. As you said there is plenty of room and chicas for another establishment. Not trying to speculate but there must be some type of buying off of death threats to the owners somewhere.

Such a shame because there are so many nicely set up bars that the zona should be more than just a few big name bars.

Two weeks ago, I dropped by the World Famous Chicago Club (once upon a time). To my surprise, there were actually about 10 chicas there. Three were attractive. Three were average. The other four were GILF. (MILF plus about 20 years). Since they were renovating the Chicago hotel, I passed even though I was tempted.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1600879]During what may have been my one and only trip to Tijuana ever, I had to stop by the world famous Chicago Club. I stopped in there late in the afternoon on a Thursday, and the place was totally dead. I was met at the door by an unattractive, fat anciana who was trying to convince me to stay and have a drink. She said, "Stay and have a drink. We can go arriba and I'll give you a nice massage and we sucky, fucky". There was like only one other woman in the club and maybe one other customer. I turned around and left and never went back. A total waste of time in my opinion. What the hell happened here anyway? I mean, there are so many chicas available to work that I would think that there's more than enough room in town for another booming puta palace en la zona. Another two or three! What gives? Why has this place tanked so badly? Maybe somebody pissed off the wrong people or something? Not paying off the right folks? Anybody here really have the real scoop on this place and why its fallen off so much?[/QUOTE]I have been there several times in the last 5 years. During the day, it is usually dead. At night, while not as many woman, and most there are not that attractive, I have always seen two or three attractive woman at night. The service I had here was generally much better, not rushed as HK, or especially Adelitas. Probably worth a look at night, but if nothing interests you, there are plenty of other options.

I was doing a pub crawl on Saturday night, with a chica in my rotation, Ms. Scatterbrain. Both being busy with work, our schedules never synced and neither had been to the Zona in a long time.

As an aside, biz seems to be picking up for Adelita, which was a SRO sausage fest around 11-ish. Ugh. There was a line of about 10 guys waiting to get into HK. No way in hell am I doing that.

So, we made it to Chicago around 12:30. In the old days it would be heaving. I knew it would be slow, but figured it would be somewhat busy on a Saturday night. Wrong!

While sitting in a booth, I did a quick count. Roughly 30 people, not including wait staff. Approximately 1:1 ratio of customers to ladies. Not exactly, as there were a few available ladies loafing around. Several were attractive and do-able.

The music was a better mix than I remember, but the "stripping" was as lame as I've seen. One (yes, ONE) tall thin chica actually removed her clothes as she demonstrated how the pole and ring are supposed to be used. All the others merely danced around, more or less fully clothed. One minor exception was a dark "Veracruz" type chica. As the very end of her last song she managed to get her bra off, but kept her arm positioned across her boobs, which looked as if they may have actually been worth a look. Then, as she was dropping her arm, the song ended, she turned her back, grabbed her bra, ran off to a corner booth as if being chased, and quickly got dressed.

Finished our beer and hit the door. Man, how this place stays in business is baffling to me.

Is the adjacent hotel even working? I thought about going Arriba for nostalgic reasons, but backed out at the thought of having sex during construction.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1701750]Is the adjacent hotel even working? I thought about going Arriba for nostalgic reasons, but backed out at the thought of having sex during construction.[/QUOTE]The hotel connected to (and above) Chicago club is Hotel Jalos. As far as I know it is in regular operation.

The large construction zone that you've seen is at the next hotel to the North of Jalos / Chicago, called Hotel Leyva. It is hotel Leyva, and not Chicago Club's hotel that has a significant-sized wing in the front that is currently under construction. So the S / T rooms for CC are largely unaffected.

Oh man, this was my first stop at about 9:30 pm last night (Saturday). I really tried my best to like this place. I even took a walk down memory lane to the booth where I met my first tijuana Favorite.

But the girls here are sooooooo FUGLY. Fat and ugly. I was tempted to tell management to pay off the police to bring some girls from the alley to this bar. In the end, I simply had to vamos. What happenned to this bar is a travesty!

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1675033]Man, how this place stays in business is baffling to me.[/QUOTE]CC is my last club or the night before I head back to the hotel or border. I use the place to unwind.

Besides that, I had some of my best sessions in that club. Some of the girls will come to your hotel before their shift starts, others after their shift ends.

The bartender at the long bar after 8 is a great dude, and David is the most honest mesero in the Zona.

But then again, I'm there at least once a week, if not traveling, so I have some knowledge of the bar and girls.

I did not make it to Chicago during my last and only trip to Tijuana but next time I might just for the heck of it since I've never been. I'm not expecting much especially from what I've read so far. But just in case if there happens to be a gem, will the Chicago girls be willing to go over to the Casadas hotel? It would be a bit of a walk.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1732181]I did not make it to Chicago during my last and only trip to Tijuana but next time I might just for the heck of it since I've never been. I'm not expecting much especially from what I've read so far. But just in case if there happens to be a gem, will the Chicago girls be willing to go over to the Casadas hotel? It would be a bit of a walk.[/QUOTE]Simple answer. NO.

They have their own hotel.

And actually, it is a short walk.

HK, LC, and BT girls can go to Casadas; also some STs.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1732186]Simple answer. NO.

They have their own hotel.

And actually, it is a short walk.

HK, LC, and BT girls can go to Casadas; also some STs.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That hotel above Chicago must not be getting much business these days then.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1732303]Thanks. That hotel above Chicago must not be getting much business these days then.[/QUOTE]The hotel above Chicago Club is called Hotel Jalos. And yes, they've seen better times.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1732181]I did not make it to Chicago during my last and only trip to Tijuana but next time I might just for the heck of it since I've never been. I'm not expecting much especially from what I've read so far. But just in case if there happens to be a gem, will the Chicago girls be willing to go over to the Casadas hotel? It would be a bit of a walk.[/QUOTE]I've never had a bad session at CC. It's much more relaxed than HK or AB (especially these days). But that often results in girls who aren't so mercenary. But don't go until after, say, 11. It'll probably be vacant until then. It may be close to vacant at 11, too, but your odds may be slightly better.

Hi,

I was in Zona Norte for July 4th, long weekend. I stayed at Leyva hotel which is adjacent to Chicago Club. It was very surprised that Chicago club almost empty bar at every time I checked at during peak time. At the meantime, all bars on Coahuila the popular like Adelita and Hong Kong were jam pack with guys and chicas.

[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1;1743121]Hi,

I was in Zona Norte for July 4th, long weekend. I stayed at Leyva hotel which is adjacent to Chicago Club. It was very surprised that Chicago club almost empty bar at every time I checked at during peak time. At the meantime, all bars on Coahuila the popular like Adelita and Hong Kong were jam pack with guys and chicas.[/QUOTE]Yep as reported on here many times over the past 8 or so years CC is just a shadow of what it once was. God I remember late 1990's to about 2004 and it was jammed packed every Friday & Saturday night with some stunning women.

The Tall Man.

Had many good times in Chicago a few years back. I used to drink at the bar and wait after midnight for the hottest chicas to show up.

There were 2 sisters from Monterrey. The older one was skinny and looked like a movie star, also nice as hell. The younger one was heavier and had a slight harelip and. Both were very nice, sweet, mellow in bed.

Most chicas in HK and Adelita have gotten very mechanical in bed, not as much sweet and sexy feelings as the chicas in old time Chicago.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1743487]Yep as reported on here many times over the past 8 or so years CC is just a shadow of what it once was. God I remember late 1990's to about 2004 and it was jammed packed every Friday & Saturday night with some stunning women.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

Well I've only been to the ZN once. Last year. I'll be there again once. Next month. Last year I only stepped into HK and TB ending up with a Hotty from TB for a good experience. I had to negotiate for a while to get her for $60.

Theory- although the pickings are less at Chicago Club (per what I've read), I figure I could negotiate for extras like longer time, GFE, and pics for less $$$ and get my rocks off since the supply (customers) is lower than the demand (girls needing monger money). Then I can go to the higher end bars afterwards and focus on getting a beauty for round two (or three).

Any comments on this theory?

[QUOTE=Beevee;1749696]Well I've only been to the ZN once. Last year. I'll be there again once. Next month. Last year I only stepped into HK and TB ending up with a Hotty from TB for a good experience. I had to negotiate for a while to get her for $60.

Theory- although the pickings are less at Chicago Club (per what I've read), I figure I could negotiate for extras like longer time, GFE, and pics for less $$$ and get my rocks off since the supply (customers) is lower than the demand (girls needing monger money). Then I can go to the higher end bars afterwards and focus on getting a beauty for round two (or three).

Any comments on this theory?[/QUOTE]IMHO, Chicago ladies (notice I did not write chicas, girls or anything else that would remotely suggest that they were under 40) are terribly unattractive. That is if they are even in the club in the first place. There is a very real probability that when you walk in you will be greeted by three waiters and no ladies at all regardless the time of day.

[QUOTE=Beevee;1749696]Well I've only been to the ZN once. Last year. I'll be there again once. Next month. Last year I only stepped into HK and TB ending up with a Hotty from TB for a good experience. I had to negotiate for a while to get her for $60.

Theory- although the pickings are less at Chicago Club (per what I've read), I figure I could negotiate for extras like longer time, GFE, and pics for less $$$ and get my rocks off since the supply (customers) is lower than the demand (girls needing monger money). Then I can go to the higher end bars afterwards and focus on getting a beauty for round two (or three).

Any comments on this theory?[/QUOTE]Whatever floats your boat. I've used CC very little, simply because I can't find girls that look attractive to me. But when I've found them, their performance has been good.

Out of curiosity, anyone know what the rates are for the adjacent hotel to the Chicago Club? And can one bring a girl from Playboy over? The hotel above Playboy is very bad.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1749808]Out of curiosity, anyone know what the rates are for the adjacent hotel to the Chicago Club? And can one bring a girl from Playboy over? The hotel above Playboy is very bad.[/QUOTE]If you are concerned about costs, then Hotel Jalos (above CC) is not for you since they charge hefty chica fees beginning with the very first chica you take upstairs to your room.

Next door to the building containing Hotel Jalos and Chicago Club is Hotel Leyva. The cheapest rooms in the Leyva rent for 320 pesos a night on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. They charge no joiner (per chica) fees at the Leyva.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1749808]Out of curiosity, anyone know what the rates are for the adjacent hotel to the Chicago Club? And can one bring a girl from Playboy over? The hotel above Playboy is very bad.[/QUOTE]Hotel leyva right. If so, it cost me 260 peso last month. Basic but very clean. I saw a lot of mongers come and go with SG, I don't know about club girls, it may depend on the club's policy. Perhaps before or after their shifts you can get a club girl to go there.

[QUOTE=AnonX69;1750004]Hotel leyva right. If so, it cost me 260 peso last month. Basic but very clean. I saw a lot of mongers come and go with SG, I don't know about club girls, it may depend on the club's policy. Perhaps before or after their shifts you can get a club girl to go there.[/QUOTE]Is that 260 for the night? Or for the 1/2 hour use? I'm guessing that this is the mid-week rate as Scatmandoo reported the weekend rate of 320. It's good to know that they don't add a joiner fee for each girl.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1750250]Is that 260 for the night? Or for the 1/2 hour use? I'm guessing that this is the mid-week rate as Scatmandoo reported the weekend rate of 320. It's good to know that they don't add a joiner fee for each girl.[/QUOTE]I stayed on a Tues. Night, in the cheapest room single bed. He may of had the room with two beds as wells. I handed over 300 peso and got 30-40 back in coins, after 2 months the coins still confuses me. I still have to look for the numbers on them. The hotel above gloria is decent for 60 peso for 1\2 hr. I think that's what I paid taking a SG up there. Rarely have time during the weekends, I can only make time on Tues or Wed, and sometimes Thurs. I'll look into it for you tonight.

[QUOTE=Beevee;1749696]Well I've only been to the ZN once. Last year. I'll be there again once. Next month. Last year I only stepped into HK and TB ending up with a Hotty from TB for a good experience. I had to negotiate for a while to get her for $60.

Theory- although the pickings are less at Chicago Club (per what I've read), I figure I could negotiate for extras like longer time, GFE, and pics for less $$$ and get my rocks off since the supply (customers) is lower than the demand (girls needing monger money). Then I can go to the higher end bars afterwards and focus on getting a beauty for round two (or three).

Any comments on this theory?[/QUOTE]Supply and demand should definitely be an issue. Ratio of guys to girls. Quality of girls to their peers. If your plan of action works for you, go for it. Some guys are more concerned about looks than performance. Others performance is their priority. Let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1750250]Is that 260 for the night? Or for the 1/2 hour use? I'm guessing that this is the mid-week rate as Scatmandoo reported the weekend rate of 320. It's good to know that they don't add a joiner fee for each girl.[/QUOTE]You have that correct Jackie.

At the Leyva they charge a lower weekday rate Monday thru Thursday and a slightly higher weekend rate on Friday, Saturday & Sunday nights for the sane rooms.

Leyva charges more for the (relatively) newer single rooms in the 5-story tower structure (facing Constitution) with different weekday & weekend rates.

The double rooms cost even a little more, and also have different weekday & weekend rates.

For example, I stayed in a double room a few times in early winter. The double room rate was 390 pesos on weekdays, 450 on three weekend nights and (I think) 1,890 or 1,920 pesos for a week. Now that they are using a higher exchange rate than back in early winter, these double-room rates may have changed.

The hotel above La Gloria is called Hotel Garcia. The rooms are cheap and clean, but they charge joiner fees and music from La Gloria can be very loud in some of Hotel Garcia's rooms.

Hotel Leyva is about 1.5 blocks a way from the alley. Most chicas won't walk that far for a screw.

Hotel Mini is right in the middle of the alley. Each room has a large wall mirror. The room is basic but clean, about the same as the new larger rooms in Leyva.

I think they rent out the room all night for about 250 pesos. Most alley chicas would go there for a fuck. The wall mirror can really turn them on. The chicas get wet and horny, watching themselves fucked in the mirror. Also It's fun to go out on the balcony looking down on all the sexy hub nub in the alley.

If you are a nice, sweet, handsome guy with lots of chocolate, you may even be able to get in the pants of their Manager of Sanitation. She's horny but kind of big, and always sitting in her office on the second floor, listening in on the creaking of the beds and the moaning and groaning of the alley cuties.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1750250]Is that 260 for the night? Or for the 1/2 hour use? I'm guessing that this is the mid-week rate as Scatmandoo reported the weekend rate of 320. It's good to know that they don't add a joiner fee for each girl.[/QUOTE]Leyva rate on Wed night was 300 peso. Still a bargain with exchange at border at 1:15.78= $19. Monday and Tues is 30 peso cheaper. It may change as the dollar keeps getting stronger, market exchange rate at the end of the day when I left work was 1:16.11.

[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1750311]Supply and demand should definitely be an issue. Ratio of guys to girls. Quality of girls to their peers. If your plan of action works for you, go for it. Some guys are more concerned about looks than performance. Others performance is their priority. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]Ath Trainer. You hit the nail on the head. Betting that performance should be strong at CC since the competition is big down the street. I've read others' post stating that some of the other bar chicas are hung up on their own ego especially when they know they are hot. I'll give my theory a test and let you all know how it went. Nothing to lose. I'm still going to for the hotties afterwards anyway. Haha.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1750354]Hotel Leyva is about 1.5 blocks a way from the alley. Most chicas won't walk that far for a screw.

Hotel Mini is right in the middle of the alley. Each room has a large wall mirror. The room is basic but clean, about the same as the new larger rooms in Leyva.

I think they rent out the room all night for about 250 pesos. Most alley chicas would go there for a fuck. The wall mirror can really turn them on. The chicas get wet and horny, watching themselves fucked in the mirror. Also It's fun to go out on the balcony looking down on all the sexy hub nub in the alley.

If you are a nice, sweet, handsome guy with lots of chocolate, you may even be able to get in the pants of their Manager of Sanitation. She's horny but kind of big, and always sitting in her office on the second floor, listening in on the creaking of the beds and the moaning and groaning of the alley cuties.[/QUOTE]I've seen the cleaning lady and conclude that she needs to cut down on the chocolate. But she is actually nice and decent even if she charges a patron $2 for using the showers. One thing about Mini is that they have a decent amount of attractive girls there, all under 22 and nicely dressed. Jeans and cute top. I like girls to dress normal in public even though I like them slutty in the clubs, even though they do the same thing for a living.

Mini and the hotel above La Gloria, are those the only ones with mirrors?

[QUOTE=AnonX69;1750422]Leyva rate on Wed night was 300 peso. Still a bargain with exchange at border at 1:15.78= $19. Monday and Tues is 30 peso cheaper. It may change as the dollar keeps getting stronger, market exchange rate at the end of the day when I left work was 1:16.11.[/QUOTE]The room rates get adjusted frequently at the Leyva, sometimes to reflect changing currency exchange rates.

Whatever amount you pony up to Victor in the oficina, 20 pesos of it is a key deposit that you get refunded when they inspect your room upon checkout.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1750354]

If you are a nice, sweet, handsome guy with lots of chocolate, you may even be able to get in the pants of their Manager of Sanitation. She's horny but kind of big, and always sitting in her office on the second floor, listening in on the creaking of the beds and the moaning and groaning of the alley cuties.[/QUOTE]Ha! You are a very funny guy sometimes Captain.

I asked the HK driver what ever happened to Chicago that used to be the top club? He said that the word is that there were rumors of transvestites working out of there, and consequently customers never came back even after the scandal was cleared up.

Last Sunday I walked in to Chicago Club at 11:30 PM on a Sunday night.

I know that isn't prime time, but Adelitas and the Hong Kong bars had a nice crowd and selection of ladies.

There were only 2 ladies and 1 customer. 1 man was with an old, ugly woman, and there was a woman dancing towards the back, but they had the artificial smoke going on and I couldn't see her very well.

I quickly left and seen Adelitas and HK bar were doing pretty well.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1861354]Last Sunday I walked in to Chicago Club at 11:30 PM on a Sunday night.

I know that isn't prime time, but Adelitas and the Hong Kong bars had a nice crowd and selection of ladies.

There were only 2 ladies and 1 customer. 1 man was with an old, ugly woman, and there was a woman dancing towards the back, but they had the artificial smoke going on and I couldn't see her very well.

I quickly left and seen Adelitas and HK bar were doing pretty well.[/QUOTE]Well that's the problem. You unwisely went on a Sunday. Had you been there at peak time on a Saturday night, you would have seen 3 ladies. How the Chicago Club remains open is one of those mysteries in Tijuana. Maybe it's a front for something else.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1865855]Well that's the problem. You unwisely went on a Sunday. Had you been there at peak time on a Saturday night, you would have seen 3 ladies. How the Chicago Club remains open is one of those mysteries in Tijuana. Maybe it's a front for something else.[/QUOTE]Maybe one of the ladies got lucky and was busy with a one legged, one armed, one eyed bandito.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1867098]Maybe one of the ladies got lucky and was busy with a one legged, one armed, one eyed bandito.[/QUOTE]Actually I was in there about 2 months ago and did see 2 decent girls on a Saturday night. Funny but both girls were moonlighting because they normally work the day shift in HK.

I stopped in for an hour or so around 10:00 last Thursday. There were about eight girls, or about two girls for every guy. Most of them were pretty good looking (IMO).

The other bars I checked out were much busier, so I'm wondering what's up. Any insight?

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;1879122]I stopped in for an hour or so around 10:00 last Thursday. There were about eight girls, or about two girls for every guy. Most of them were pretty good looking (IMO).

The other bars I checked out were much busier, so I'm wondering what's up. Any insight?[/QUOTE]Just came from there, dead! How they stay open is beyond me!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1879273]Just came from there, dead! How they stay open is beyond me![/QUOTE]Could it even be money laundering? The great conundrum & even more so is how they can be open in the afternoon. Peeped in last week and there was absolutely only one gal working, no bartender.

I asked the doorman if he was the bartender just out for some sun, he laughed and said no. We left on that note.

[QUOTE=NingunoEspecial;1879561]Could it even be money laundering?[/QUOTE]One time I was in there, and the girl I was with suddenly stiffened and tried to look inconspicuous. I asked "what's up?" My broken Spanish kept me from completely understanding her response, but the part I understood was that the guy who had just walked in was the owner, and she wanted not to draw any attention from him.

That could be interpreted many ways, but the whole thing felt creepy to me. If the guy hadn't left, I would have.

Nada.

Solid foundation for those who believe "America will work in Mexico".

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;1879681]One time I was in there, and the girl I was with suddenly stiffened and tried to look inconspicuous. I asked "what's up?" My broken Spanish kept me from completely understanding her response, but the part I understood was that the guy who had just walked in was the owner, and she wanted not to draw any attention from him.

That could be interpreted many ways, but the whole thing felt creepy to me. If the guy hadn't left, I would have.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaltShaker;1905163]Nada.[/QUOTE]Yep, nothing. Chicago Club. As empty as ever for the last decade plus.

[QUOTE=SaltShaker;1905163]Nada.

Solid foundation for those who believe "America will work in Mexico".[/QUOTE]Thats exactly how it looked when I was there last week.

[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1905216]Thats exactly how it looked when I was there last week.[/QUOTE]How does this place stay in biz? Must be money cleaner for LOS Narcos.

I agree. Business finance is international. Money coming in and money going out. The difference is profit or loss.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1905471]How does this place stay in biz? Must be money cleaner for LOS Narcos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1905471]How does this place stay in biz? Must be money cleaner for LOS Narcos.[/QUOTE]I used to practically live in the Chicago Club. Had the shirt, been there, done that. I even had a calendar from the hotel next door in my condo (in Brian head, UT.) in '03-05 spent about a week a month down there. I don't think HG was there.

Anyway, my second favorite was AD.

Not the same anymore.

[QUOTE=TJSteve;1905644]I used to practically live in the Chicago Club. Had the shirt, been there, done that. I even had a calendar from the hotel next door in my condo (in Brian head, UT.) in '03-05 spent about a week a month down there. I don't think HG was there.

Anyway, my second favorite was AD.

Not the same anymore.[/QUOTE]What a shame! Years ago it was by far my favorite. My first CC girl, and repeated many times, was Heidi. She's been gone for many years. I still have a few pics of her that bring back fond memories.

I would like to go to this Chicago Club, I am looking for it for a long time.

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922226]I would like to go to this Chicago Club, I am looking for it for a long time.[/QUOTE]It's on Constitution, on the east side, north of Coahuila.

It is probably better to go after 8:00 pm.

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922226]I would like to go to this Chicago Club, I am looking for it for a long time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922226]I would like to go to this Chicago Club, I am looking for it for a long time.[/QUOTE]Why, exactly? You'll be the only customer in the whole place, most likely.

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922226]I would like to go to this Chicago Club, I am looking for it for a long time.[/QUOTE]Tell us a bit about yourself, where you're from, when you'll visit. As you may have inferred, Chicago Club is not what it used to be. Everybody wonders how it stays in business. It is very slow, even on weekends. You'll find nobody there before 8 pm, and few people after that. A Friday or Saturday, probably after 10 pm, is your best bet.

WombatEd2 and SaltShaker thank you! I can't open the pictures wide but I can see that there is nobody in there. Is the photo after 8:00 PM?

Member 2041: I can't understand what kind of question is "why?" I guess it is obvious why. I did not know that I am going to be the only customer in the entire place, I thought it is crowd in there.

Phordphan: I am from LA but I am currently visiting Chicago and I am going to be around for a while. I don't know when I should visit but maybe on next weekend. Thank you for telling that it is not the same as it used to be. As I thought that it is. I didn't know that it is so slow. I am wondering now whether I still need to go or not since you said that there's going to be nobody. I was only thinking that I could get myself some Viagra [URL]http://rxcoupons.org/coupons/viagra-duloxetine-coupons-discounts/[/URL] (long story. Having a hard time without it) and get into the club. But as much as I can see from you guys I need to search for something else. So thanks for answering.

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922528]WombatEd2 and SaltShaker thank you! I can't open the pictures wide but I can see that there is nobody in there. Is the photo after 8:00 PM?

Member 2041: I can't understand what kind of question is "why?" I guess it is obvious why. I did not know that I am going to be the only customer in the entire place, I thought it is crowd in there.

Phordphan: I am from LA but I am currently visiting Chicago and I am going to be around for a while. I don't know when I should visit but maybe on next weekend. Thank you for telling that it is not the same as it used to be. As I thought that it is. I didn't know that it is so slow. I am wondering now whether I still need to go or not since you said that there's going to be nobody. I was only thinking that I could get myself some Viagra [URL]http://rxcoupons.org/coupons/viagra-duloxetine-coupons-discounts/[/URL] (long story. Having a hard time without it) and get into the club. But as much as I can see from you guys I need to search for something else. So thanks for answering.[/QUOTE]Andelf, you may be laboring under a delusion. You said you're from LA but visiting Chicago. I assume you mean the city of Chicago, in Illinois. The Windy City. That Chicago, right?

THIS Chicago Club is in Tijuana, Baja California Norte, Mexico. You're a couple of thousand miles off. LOL. It's OK. Every now and again somebody gets a Google misdirection and posts something in the Hong Kong Club thread about bars in Hong Kong, China. Good luck. Post again when you're in San Diego.

Photos between Chicago Club opening time 2:00 ish and 7:00 pm. During the week. I went back twice just to confirm.

[QUOTE=Andelf;1922528]WombatEd2 and SaltShaker thank you! I can't open the pictures wide but I can see that there is nobody in there. Is the photo after 8:00 PM?

Member 2041: I can't understand what kind of question is "why?" I guess it is obvious why. I did not know that I am going to be the only customer in the entire place, I thought it is crowd in there.

Phordphan: I am from LA but I am currently visiting Chicago and I am going to be around for a while. I don't know when I should visit but maybe on next weekend. Thank you for telling that it is not the same as it used to be. As I thought that it is. I didn't know that it is so slow. I am wondering now whether I still need to go or not since you said that there's going to be nobody. I was only thinking that I could get myself some Viagra [URL]http://rxcoupons.org/coupons/viagra-duloxetine-coupons-discounts/[/URL] (long story. Having a hard time without it) and get into the club. But as much as I can see from you guys I need to search for something else. So thanks for answering.[/QUOTE]

The Chicago Club may be starting a half-hearted come-back. On Friday at 10:30 PM, there were 7 actual customers, and 18 girls. And for the most part, the girls were pretty good looking. That's a big step up from what I've been used to.

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;1961836]The Chicago Club may be starting a half-hearted come-back. On Friday at 10:30 PM, there were 7 actual customers, and 18 girls. And for the most part, the girls were pretty good looking. That's a big step up from what I've been used to.[/QUOTE]The Chicago Club as of Nov. 1 is now part of the group that owns LG. Playboy. Gold Palace and a few other bars. So yes look for major changes to revitalize this club. It is probably worth putting this bar back in the rotation as long as your not just a HK Adelita kind of guy.

Decided to cross over for a late lunch. Figured I'd give it a try. The place was empty except for the one waitress. No music, no girls, nothing.

[QUOTE=Squid1234;1962462]Decided to cross over for a late lunch. Figured I'd give it a try. The place was empty except for the one waitress. No music, no girls, nothing.[/QUOTE]I passed by around 10:00 AM last Saturday, and the music was loud enough to make earplugs advisable. There was a doorman, a bartender, and nobody else.

About 10 PM Tuesday night, I was having a shrimp ceviche at the school girls corner on Constitucion. 5 pick up trucks full of Army and policias, in camouflaged uniforms and fully equipped with automatic carbines, converged at the Tecate store. They were picking on 2 guys riding around on bikes. Mexico can probably eradicate crimes better and easier with undercover cops and snitches than Army, Marines, Navy and Airforce hehe.

I decided to walk over and checked out Chicago. There was an edecanes looking about a 5 at the door. Inside the place was nice and clean with soft lighting and decent sound quality, but there were no customers, no stripper at the pole, only 3 chubbies sitting forlornly at the bar, giving me their desperate eyes.

Chicago has been dead for a few years. It's the biggest waste of assets and opportunities in North America to bring good incomes and orgasms to sweet Mexican girls, also good female companies, sexual satisfaction and happiness to lots of lonely and horny gringos.

A few other bars in la Zona, the &G next to La Perla and New York etc. Have some very good-looking girls working, but rarely have any customers. The pretty girls would sit on their asses all night without any business but still insist on $100ST fucks with $20ST rooms. WTF is wrong with these Mexican business people? La Zona has some of the prettiest and sweetest girls with quick, easy access from the US border and has good potentials to become one of the best and most lucrative mongering spots. These local guys are just not creative and imaginative enough to take full advantage of their excellent assets and opportunities and develop them.

Perhaps we need bold guys like Bugsy Siegel, Mile Lansky to turn La Zona into a Las Vegas for sex!

Nobody I know even bothers to check out Chicago Club anymore, as it's been completely dead for years. I can't imagine how they stay in business, unless it's just a money laundering front for a drug cartel.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1982687]About 10 PM Tuesday night, I was having a shrimp ceviche at the school girls corner on Constitucion. 5 pick up trucks full of Army and policias, in camouflaged uniforms and fully equipped with automatic carbines, converged at the Tecate store. They were picking on 2 guys riding around on bikes. SHIT. Mexico can probably eradicate crimes better and easier with undercover cops and snitches than Army, Marines, Navy and Airforce hehe.

I decided to walk over and checked out Chicago. There was an edecanes looking about a 5 at the door. Inside the place was nice and clean with soft lighting and decent sound quality, but there were no customers, no stripper at the pole, only 3 chubbies sitting forlornly at the bar, giving me their desperate eyes.

Chicago has been dead for a few years. It's the biggest waste of assets and opportunities in North America to bring good incomes and orgasms to sweet Mexican girls, also good female companies, sexual satisfaction and happiness to lots of lonely and horny gringos.

A few other bars in la Zona, the &G next to La Perla and New York etc. Have some very good-looking girls working, but rarely have any customers. The pretty young girls would sit on their asses all night without any business but still insist on $100ST fucks with $20ST rooms. WTF is wrong with these Mexican business people? La Zona has some of the prettiest and sweetest girls with quick, easy access from the US border and has good potentials to become one of the best and most lucrative mongering spots. These local guys are just not creative and imaginative enough to take full advantage of their excellent assets and opportunities and develop them.

Perhaps we need bold guys like Bugsy Siegel, Mile Lansky to turn La Zona into a Las Vegas for sex![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2041;1982836]Nobody I know even bothers to check out Chicago Club anymore, as it's been completely dead for years. I can't imagine how they stay in business, unless it's just a money laundering front for a drug cartel.[/QUOTE]I agree about not imaging how they stay open. However, whenever I'm in Tijuana, CC is my last stop. I like the bartender and had my share of great times with some of the girls.

At about 10 om Friday night there were 4 chicas. 2 were so-so. The other 2 were grandmas. Why can't the&G send all of its Chicas over to Chicago? Seems like a perfect solution.

Spoke with a decent looking girl and we agreed on price for services plus room then she said I had to buy her 3- $8 beers in order to leave the bar.

Told her that was not acceptable.

[QUOTE=Bill;2002064]Spoke with a decent looking girl and we agreed on price for services plus room then she said I had to buy her 3- $8 beers in order to leave the bar.[/QUOTE]Was that to go to the hotel next to CC or to a different one.

Either way, it does not sound right. Maybe it is because of the new management?

I'll get the scoop on it this weekend.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;2002078]Was that to go to the hotel next to CC or to a different one.

Either way, it does not sound right. Maybe it is because of the new management?

I'll get the scoop on it this weekend.[/QUOTE]Yeah, ymmv.

Next door, Jalos hotel.

Without getting in to too much detail, maybe she thought I low balled her.

I will not pay more for a CC girl all in, than for an Adelita or HK girl.

Got handed a free drink coupon for the Chicago Club last night, so I walked over and checked it out. Major change from my last visit. Chicago Club had some good looking chicas this time - 3 that were as good looking IMO as the better HK girls. Got my free drink, tipped the barman, then bought a drink for one of the chicas and chatted for awhile. Management has installed a dance podium in the center of the floor and is advertising the May 6th Canelo fight like the other local clubs. But in my opinion, to pull back the tourists, Chicago Club is going to have to offer something the other clubs do not have, for example, a "happy hour" buffet like some of the clubs and restaurants in San Diego. Saw about 50 elderly Chinese tourists walking nearby earlier in a tour group. If Chicago Club starts giving out free chicken wings, taquitos in a hot buffet bar and peanuts and salsa and chips etc, the place will be the number one destination for the tourists to get happy hour snacks and drinks.

The free beers coupon is a good start. Have to come by and check it out.

If they hand out free spicy pork tacos, they could sell a lot of drinks. But they would still need hot chicas for the guys to want to come back and spend time and money on the girls.

This reminds me of Mr. J's, a topless strip joint near Orange County airport. Friday night for years they would have 2 dozens hot strippers and very good free snacks of cheese, pizza, wings, sausages etc. , hoping to attract the heavy drinkers and big tippers after work, but it never worked, even in a high-income area. They got mostly cheap skates who bought a $2 beer, ate prodigious amounts of free food, ogled but never tipped strippers.

I got a few tel numbers from their hot strippers, but could never arrange for sex them. After about 5 years of giving out free food, they folded. The place was owned and managed by a bunch of scary hoodlums. It may have been a front for something illegal, who knows? Recently a few popular bar chains in the US have been busted for selling drugs and prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Travv;2030964]Got handed a free drink coupon for the Chicago Club last night, so I walked over and checked it out. Major change from my last visit. Chicago Club had some good looking chicas this time - 3 that were as good looking IMO as the better HK girls. Got my free drink, tipped the barman, then bought a drink for one of the chicas and chatted for awhile. Management has installed a dance podium in the center of the floor and is advertising the May 6th Canelo fight like the other local clubs. But in my opinion, to pull back the tourists, Chicago Club is going to have to offer something the other clubs do not have, for example, a "happy hour" buffet like some of the clubs and restaurants in San Diego. Saw about 50 elderly Chinese tourists walking nearby earlier in a tour group. If Chicago Club starts giving out free chicken wings, taquitos in a hot buffet bar and peanuts and salsa and chips etc, the place will be the number one destination for the tourists to get happy hour snacks and drinks.[/QUOTE]

They have some new girls. And I really like the remodel. Its worth checking out if you haven't been there in awhile. On another note, they got some new waiters. One idiot actually followed me out of the club as I was taking a girl upstairs and wanted me to buy her a drink. I told his ass to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. I won't let him serve me next time. Sometimes it just boggles my mind how poor business and customer service sense they have. Guess its not entirely their fault, not like they are trained or educated in any way.

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I too got a free drink coupon after a Xolos game and the guy was telling us how they remodeled and a bunch of "really hot" girls were dancing there now. I didn't really believe him, but decided WTF, worst case is get a free beer. So we went in and sure enough, the remodel looked nice, the dance stages are particularly nice and they had some hot dancers. Looks like they're investing some money and at least trying to bring the club back, as it's been horrible for years now. I ended up with a tall girl from Guadalajara who was one of the dancers. She was terrific and we did an hour upstairs in the hotel. The one hit was $30 for the room for an hour, even though though the room was OK that's high for ZN.

Went back the following weekend and it was a bit more crowded. Found the same girl and had a good time again. Even the maseros were OK, none of that hide the coins BS. It's still nowhere near the place Hong Kong is, but I found it to be a nice break as it's way less packed and more laid back. If you haven't been in there in awhile I'd check it out. It used to be one of my favorite places a LONG time ago in the 90's and it's good to see they're at least putting in an effort now.

[QUOTE=Pablo;2042042]I too got a free drink coupon after a Xolos game and the guy was telling us how they remodeled and a bunch of "really hot" girls were dancing there now. I didn't really believe him, but decided WTF, worst case is get a free beer. So we went in and sure enough, the remodel looked nice, the dance stages are particularly nice and they had some hot dancers. Looks like they're investing some money and at least trying to bring the club back, as it's been horrible for years now. I ended up with a tall girl from Guadalajara who was one of the dancers. She was terrific and we did an hour upstairs in the hotel. The one hit was $30 for the room for an hour, even though though the room was OK that's high for ZN.

Went back the following weekend and it was a bit more crowded. Found the same girl and had a good time again. Even the maseros were OK, none of that hide the coins BS. It's still nowhere near the place Hong Kong is, but I found it to be a nice break as it's way less packed and more laid back. If you haven't been in there in awhile I'd check it out. It used to be one of my favorite places a LONG time ago in the 90's and it's good to see they're at least putting in an effort now.[/QUOTE]Ditto that about the 90's, my god I have many great memories of the CC from about 1997 to 2003. Finally they put some money into it, yahoo! I will check it out this weekend!

Thanks for sharing!

TTM.

I know the place is named Chicago but do they really have to be cliche with it by playing the tommy sub machine gun outside? It does sound cartoony but if this is your first time in the area and you turn on the corner of the main street where Hong Kong, Adelita, and Tropical is, it's kind of sketchy cause of the instability of the region. Went in and this place is still basically dead. Has the blue light set up in the whole club. Doesn't look like they upgraded anything. Only about a dozen girls working in there and about 6 patrons. Guess the waiters were happy to see 4 asian guys walk in so like 3 of them ushered us to sit and asked what we wanted to drink. Honestly I just took another glance around and stood up and headed towards the exit. As we were leaving they kept calling us to come back. You can skip this too not much to see. Only reason we swung by is to show 2 of the new guys that were with us the whole area and what this street had to offer.

Stopped by Chicago during the afternoon and the place was pretty dead. About 6 regular average plain chicas, 2 patrons and an empty club. Left after a few minutes to finish checking out Zona Norte.

Went in Chicago with a new bro Friday night around 10 PM.

Chicago has remodeled with a 2 new raised strip platforms, new stage lightings and all new plush furniture. Sound equipment also seemed clearer and cleaner than before. There were roughly 12 girls in house, sitting at the 2 bars and gathering near the banos, a few young spinners among them. There were 3 groups of young Mexicans sitting in booths, partying with their chicas.

We sat through 2 strippers, fairly attractive chicas comparing to the recent HK's chubbies, but no one was tipping them. The dozen meseros brought over 4 rounds of chicas, about mid 30's, smiling, attractive, sexy-looking who may do well for the bros who prefer more seasoned girls with charms and personality over the clueless ones.

Chicago no longer hands out 1-free beer coupon. They have only a few beer brands, serving XX, Sol, Tecate for $3. Chicago feels quieter and more relaxed for those who want to slow down and have meaningful conversations with their chicas, but without dark nooks and crannies to hide from the dozen hovering meseros, it just felt awkward to kiss and grope the chicas.

It has good potentials. Will check back to find the occasional fresh, pretty girls who still offer that loving feelings in bed.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2055262]Went in Chicago with a new bro Friday night around 10 PM.

Chicago has remodeled with a 2 new raised strip platforms, new stage lightings and all new plush furniture. Sound equipment also seemed clearer and cleaner than before. There were roughly 12 girls in house, sitting at the 2 bars and gathering near the banos, a few young spinners among them. There were 3 groups of young Mexicans sitting in booths, partying with their chicas.

We sat through 2 strippers, fairly attractive chicas comparing to the recent HK's chubbies, but no one was tipping them. The dozen meseros brought over 4 rounds of chicas, about mid 30's, smiling, attractive, sexy-looking who may do well for the bros who prefer more seasoned girls with charms and personality over the clueless ones.

Chicago no longer hands out 1-free beer coupon. They have only a few beer brands, serving XX, Sol, Tecate for $3. Chicago feels quieter and more relaxed for those who want to slow down and have meaningful conversations with their chicas, but without dark nooks and crannies to hide from the dozen hovering meseros, it just felt awkward to kiss and grope the chicas.

It has good potentials. Will check back to find the occasional fresh, pretty girls who still offer that loving feelings in bed.[/QUOTE]Actually, the past 2 Saturday afternoons (including today- 7/9), there is a Chicago Mesero on the corner near Playboy handing out 2 free drink coupons into the club. Baxter Slade and I took full advantage of this on both occasions. But you are right, once in the club, drink our free Sol or XX, not much going on. But this is the afternoon though!

Was in La Zona Saturday night. Walking that corner and has Cotele de camaron at the school girls central. There was no one handing out any coupon at that corner. Does not look smart to hand out free-beer coupons in the day time when Chicago has no chicas working, and no coupons at night when there are hundred guys walking around.

Will come back occasionally to check on the talents.

Are you 2 car pooling? Hope to meet you guys in Pussyland one of these days.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2058031]Actually, the past 2 Saturday afternoons (including today- 7/9), there is a Chicago Mesero on the corner near Playboy handing out 2 free drink coupons into the club. Baxter Slade and I took full advantage of this on both occasions. But you are right, once in the club, drink our free Sol or XX, not much going on. But this is the afternoon though![/QUOTE]