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asiaphile has somehow started posting again, he just gave someone bad advice in the Cambodia Phnom Penn section.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Admin
[i]Reason: Posting pointlessly disparaging remarks about the WSG forum while sumultaneously promoting other forums and sites.

[blue]If you have a comment or suggestion regarding the way the forum is being run, post it in the "Letters to the Editor" or the "Forum Rules" section were myself and others may respond to the specific issue.[/blue] [/i][/QUOTE]

Jackson: I find your banning Adlez odd for a variety of reasons. There is a far worse spammer in the Thai section, many of the regular posters, including Joe_Zop met AdleZ and liked him. As regards your specific points:
1. many, perhaps most people here, post the same messages again and again. AdleZ is not alone.
2. Lots of people, RN etc, also like video games. I hate them. My only hobby is real time pu**y.
3. His thing on masturbation was to say he was going to cut back on hookers and spend more on video games, a valid point surely.
4. He is no more a misogynist than many other posters. Read the American women section to find out how misogynistic many of the posters are. AdleZ does have some issues he has to work through but so do all the guys who think American women suck (or don't suck)i
5. His name was banned so he tried to work around it and had been so doing for months.
6. As per point 5.

More generally, I feel the value of the board is coming down all the time. I will be traveling to Thailand, Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos soon on a pu**y safari but I don't see much worthwhile info here; nor do I see much point in posting. Is that me, the board or a mixture? I note, btw, that Freeler, who is currently in LOS, is not posting much here right now. Nor is Joe_Zop. Nor am I but I have not much original to say right now.

[blue]Skinless,

I had intended to wash my hands of the subject and ignore any Adlez follow-up posts, but since it's you posing these questions, I will respond out of respect for your many contributions to this Forum.

1. Actually, as I was reviewing every one of his past messages with the specific intention of preserving those with actual factual content (approximately 20 out of 180 posts), I observed that he had posted the EXACT same message three times, each posting being several months apart from the others. This is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. The violation wasn't for posting the same subject, it was for re-posting the EXACT same message.

2. The purpose of this forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Whether some members may like or dislike video games is irrelevant, video games are not a topic for this forum, and thus repeated posting on the subject are a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. If you want to interact with people who are interested in video games, then please go to one of the 1,000's of forums that specalize on that subject.

3. Again, the purpose of this forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Masturbation is not sex with women, and thus is not a topic for this forum. This is clearly spelled out in the Forum's Spam Policy, and it's a necessary restriction because this forum gets a lot of lurkers who apparently spend all their time jerking off while reading the forum and fantasizing about traveling to foreign countries and fucking the women. I get repeated requests to start a section on masturbation and to post masturbation fantasies that have been sent to me via email. Personally, these monger-wannabes make me sick.

BTW, has anyone observed the irony in that the guy who advocates the find, fuck, forget system has concluded that all the sex he gets is disappointingly "forgettable"?

4. I have been quite clear on the subject of misogyny. American women deserve all the criticism that is leveled against them, and that's why I created a special section for that purpose. However, the women around the world who willingly provide us with the services we need are in a totally different class, and thus deserve our protection and to be treated with some measure of dignity, respect and affection. Even if you don't agree with my position, I don't think it's too much to ask that the members abide by my wishes on this subject. Adlez has consistently, repeatedly and deliberately posted misogynist comments that he knows I find offensive. I permitted him to have his say in the hopes he would get it out of his system, and I've asked him several time to stop. Nevertheless, he has continued to barrage my forum with this same message, which at this point I consider to be a personal insult.

5. Using adaptations or variations of a banned user name is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy, and for good reason. Serial Spammers always try to re-register a user name bearing some vestige of their banned name as a means to continue their identity. For example, callstreet returned as lacallstreet, then callstreet2, etc. Obviously, this tactic serves notice to the forum that the serial spammer has defied me with a triumphant return, all to spam again. Your friends use of *****, then AdleZ, then using variations like Z.elda, Z>E>L>D>A, or just Z to sign his messages, all were violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. As before, I tried to reason with him, I tried asking him to stop, and I tried to be tolerant, all to no avail.

6. Using variations of banned words is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policies. Same situation as the banned user names, and deliberate and repeated instances are essentially just a big middle index finger aimed at me.

The bottom line: I just decided that I was tired of policing his behavior, tired monitoring his posts, and tired of asking him to exercise just a small amount of restraint. I have better things to do in life. He's worn out his welcome, and he's history. Frankly, I think I've been more than patient.

There's no reason why you, Freeler or Joe_Zop shouldn't want to post. I don't exercise a heavy hand in monitoring the Forum, and I've rarely, if ever, censored anything you have written. Nevertheless, I provide this forum as a FREE service for YOU. If you guys don't want to avail yourself of it's availability, that's your choice, but please understand that I'm not going to lose any sleep because you may have decided that you don't want to use my FREE service.

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson,

I frankly don't want Adlez banned because, although it may seem he is very repetitious, he still beings a lot of color and humor to an otherwise boring thread. Skinless is right - this board is not providing as much valuable information as it has the capability to provide. I would ask you to reconsider your decision to ban Adlez - I do believe he has a lot to contribute, albeit, it's on the darker fringes of male-female interaction.

...(prog)

[blue]Progman,

I think you guys should consider another perspective here. One reason that the Forum isn't as valuable a source of travel information that I wished it was is specifically because there's too much chit-chat surrounding the real information. Case in point: I reviewed every one of Adlez's 180+ "reports", of which exactly 20 actually contained in whole or in part some real information, a ratio of just over 11%. I preserved these reports and deleted the others, but frankly, that's a lot of clutter to read through just to get to the real information.

The WSG Forum is a research tool, not a chat room.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson: Thanks for going to the trouble to reply. I have had my say on Adlez but I would like to address some more general points made. I do this to reduce the overall level of crap being produced:

1. General chit chat on video games etc: all that is partly a reflection of the board's structure. I think contributors could and should look at some way of cutting down on posting general bs. That is a general problem, not confined to the Thai board.
2. American women: I have only posted once in that section, to ask Joe_Zop something on depression. That said, even though I don't agree with the main trust of that section (American women are no good - all of them??), I find it interesting on occasion as some good posters are to be found there.
3. masturbation: On reflection, I am sure you get plenty of sickos, though in my innocence, I would not have suspected it.
4. Progman and AdleZ: there is a very dark side to sex in Thailand and it is that dark side I am interested in. Although Adlez' mantra is repetitive and often offensive, it is an important metric to have. The main rule in sex and sun countries must be not to lose the head with these women as all kinds of disasters can quickly follow.
5. Future posts: I might throw something in on the Tokyo section after I do some more bonking here. However, my next main project is a real heart of darkness tour, from Myanmar to Papua New Guinea, fucking everything in between with the help of cebu man and soem others.
6. Jackson, thank you for replying to myself and Progman. Hoopefully, if this helps us to focus more on what we want from the board, it wil be all very beneficial.

regarding adlez, maybe u can limit his posts only in the thai women section...

i can see the ban in the pattaya section since he never contributes anything there except that mcdonalds is the best resturant there...

tapioca

RE: Adlez
Guys,
The board is Jacksons and he is banning users as he sees fit. I think too many people forget the simple fact that, we are all guest on this site if we don't like the way things are going on the board we are free to just leave. Also just as we are free to leave the site Jackson is free to make the rules. Live by the rules or leave it is really very simple, we are all adults here. The poster Adlez is gone and that should just be the end of it.

Jackson -- you've stated your reasoning very well, and I defer to it, but I'd like to make a couple of comments regarding the whole situation.

1. It is the nature of non-threaded conference systems to go and stay off topic at times. Threaded conferences are more forgiving, as it's possible to easily have multiple discussions in a section or even within a single conversation, and thus to allow digressions without harming the overall flow of information. The ability to mothball or prune and entire off-topic thread, after letting it run its course, also gives those on the forum the opportunity to feel free to post while keeping the system valuable.

2. Part of the nature of a forum, regardless of what its defined purpose happens to be, is also that it becomes a virtual community. Part of the purpose of digressive discussions (and let me be clear -- I could care less about video games, and I get extremely tired of the political ranting which surfaces regularly) is to strengthen that community, to allow for a sense of intimacy, and thereby to encourage contribution. This is not about it being a chat room, but about allowing individual and personal connection to the community regardless of whether someone has something useful to say at that particular moment. Most folks on this board are not, and any given instant, engaging the services of a woman -- they are researching it, and still want to find a way to be connected. On one of the forums I ran for years, the most active single discussion was about the weather, which was completely and totally off-topic from the oft-repeated and generally followed purpose of the board. But by having a limited number of such topics people stay connected and the pointless stuff is given a place.

3. I've said this before and I'll say it again -- posters who engage in endless and ongoing bashing of other posters are far more damaging to a forum such as this than are repetitious postings. I can go through every forum here and find repetition -- from the same sob stories being repeated by the exact same posters in the American Women section, to the same "American Women suck" assertion being placed absolutely everywhere, to the same personal anecdotes being posted in various places in the Thailand section by people other than the one in question. Fine, people tend to repeat themselves. Things that had an effect on them end up being said again. But you can look at the Bangkok sections right now and over the past couple of months and there is a huge amount of trash-talking and attempts at personal intimidation, much by a poster who's crowed that he posted useful stuff but has deleted it all because those in the section are not worthy of receiving it. Perhaps you've done it somewhere, but I've yet to really feel any reining in of that, depite essentially ongoing campaigns against specific posters. Sorry, but this is decidedly more problematic and more a reason to give pause about posting than are conversations about video games or being burned out on sex. Right now those sections are decidedly less inviting places to post.

I've not posted much in the past week or two because I've been busy, had a lousy net connection, and, since the end of my stay in Thailand is fast approaching, I've been focusing on my time here. I think it's clear from the field reports I posted that I'm not feeling constrained, though I do get a bit tired of being bashed sideways for no particular reason here and there.

sexreview,

Your logic makes little sense. Yes, this is Jackson's board. Okay, it's his “football”. But if nobody posts then what good is it? A football is only fun if there are others contributing – throwing, catching, etc... Get the picture? Jackson has a “right” to protect himself legally and, to a lesser degree, he should be able to assert some guidelines in order to keep the flow of information coming, but the bottom line is if he says "It's my ball so you only play by my rules" then, guess what, we'll find another “ball” and there are other ones out there. Thank goodness Jackson hasn't done that. He has been very liberal at times in what he does allow. I was trying to explain why I thought a poster should not be banned. I guess I'm glad Jackson doesn't have the same attitude as you.

...(prog)

adlez was quite obviously a troll we're all better off without him. I don't understand why anyone would want to support him, and I'm quite happy that he's been banned.

BassGod was correct he was a troll.

Hopefully the next one is NR.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by octatron
[i]BassGod was correct he was a troll.

Hopefully the next one is NR. [/i][/QUOTE]

Oh God that would be too good to be true.

z may come across as annoying but we need a bad guy so we can be the good guys. He offers a counterpoint that stimulates discussions.

Personally i find him more entertaining then annoying.

Why not keep him in the Thai women section only? That place is like a hangout for us regulars.

Man I think Octaron seems more like The Troll. I thought he was my friend,,, Uncool on him,,,, NIBU R......

Nibu

Did you ever hear the saying? "Quality over quantity"

Myself and many others are just sick and tired of all your posts that don't provide much information but server space.

Not to mention you have disgraced Peru and Chile.

So please, I think most of the regulars will support me on this. If you are not providing useful information to this board, don't bother posting anything.

This forum is not a chat room! We especially don’t need to hear your political views! And when will you figure out the words “W h o r e” and “s l u t” are blacked out on this forum!

Did you ever figure out why Jackson created a Nibu in Buenos Aires, and a Nibu in Peru. Think about it!

Thanks from all of us!

OWWW Sorry Octatron my posts are very informative it is cause of idiots like you and Chupanalgas I have stoped posting new info now. I thought you were my friend ,,,,Great I hope I never see you in my territory Lima Peru. Do not make me out as an idiot Which I am not. Why do you call me a Troll? Man You are The Troll? I have not ruined Chile I have put new info there. Hey if you are such a Sailor boy How come your ship never hits the ports of Valparaiso Chile Or Callao Peru? Do not play with my intelligence I might not have the money like you but I have seen a lot more then you ever have. Man that is why the WSg Goes Bad cause of everyone attacking each other. Yeh Come to Lima and stay in Miraflores only cause you are to scared to go anywhere else in Lima. You are probably one of the many US guys who spoil it for us and pay too much money. Good Stay out of Lima Yes there are two senor Frogs now in Lima and pay those Ruka Chicks a lot of money overpay dude overpay and go to Tequlia Rock in Lima and OVERPAY. Man I am pissed off This WSG is supposed to be about helping people out. Lets see What else you can post over me NOTHING NOTHING.............................. SORRY Jackson I e mailed you on this problem I have a right to be a 100% Mad Maybe I will make some new posts in Feburary
as For Now I wait and watch and hope WSG goes for good in 2003,,,,, Sincerly NIBU R................

[QUOTE]Originally posted by octatron
[i]Nibu

Did you ever hear the saying? "Quality over quantity"

Sorry again for another post Jackson But my posts are quality I have gone to so many places in SA that the typical Gringo has not seen. To Octartron I have many many friends on my side in the End Victory will Win,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NIBU R...........

NR: Your posts suck shit and don't provide any information worth using. Plus you are an ungrateful asshole because Jackson gives you your own section and you won't stay there.

(edited to remove something that was a bit over the top once I read it again)

Nibu,

So far it's....

Other board members 2
Nibu 1

You said...

"For Now I wait and watch and hope WSG goes for good in 2003"

Ummm, IMHO that’s grounds for banishment. It’s like something you have been trying for on a personal level.

If perhaps you disappear, perhaps this website has a chance for redemption. However I still feel this is an outstanding place to get valuable information and research on getting laid. If you have time to read through your mirage of neverending posts.

I’ll tell you what if more people support you than me on this thread, I will disappear.

Ever heard of a run on paragraph?

P.S I don't think you want Jackson's opinion on the validity of your contributions on this board!

Octatron, Dickhead - as much as I found Nibu's semi-literate posts irritating, must I remind you gentlemen the "Prime Directive" in forums ?

[b]PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS[/b]

otherwise, good job. ;)

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Actually right after I posted this, I did a search on his name. To see what posts he has done recently.

Hey Nibu - if you are going to email someone, don't post to the forum, just fucking email them, you ass.

Oops. I forgot the "Prime Directive". :(

Here is my two cents on the Monkey (I guess you guys call him the Troll). His posts are obviously not very informative and extremely disorganized. Having said that, the Monkey apparently has helped some of the fellow mongers in Peru in their pursuit of the hobby, and apparently he is not as idiotic in person. Therefore I believe he should stay a member of this forum.
When I was new to the forum, I found his posts very irritating, but now I basically ignore them. J.G.

I must set the record straight I never did call Nibu a troll.

A troll by definition is "The act of posting a message in a newsgroup that is obviously exaggerating something on a particular topic, hoping to trick a newbie into posting a follow-up article that points out the mistake."

Or

"An outrageous message posted to a newsgroup or mailing list or message board to bait people to answer. Trolling is a form of harassment that can take over a discussion. Well meaning defenders can create chaos by responding to trolls".

Nibu does not do that. He just posts, and posts messages as much as he can. With a very few percentage of them that make any sense or have useful information.

I would be happy to take back my request to ban him, if he could assure us that he would start posting smarter, more clear, informative, and of course fewer messages.

He needs to understand this forum should be not be treated as a "Chat Room"

After all he has over 836 posts. Of course a few of them have been informative.

In any case some mongers might want to find old toothless "w h o r e s" for USD 2.00 dollars.

Again asiaphile is posting misinformation in the Cambodia section.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Admin
[i]Reason: Posting pointlessly disparaging remarks about the WSG forum while sumultaneously promoting other forums and sites.

[blue]If you have a comment or suggestion regarding the way the forum is being run, post it in the "Letters to the Editor" or the "Forum Rules" section were myself and others may respond to the specific issue.[/blue] [/i][/QUOTE]

Nibu

What most people seem to be saying is quality over quantity. Carpet bombing this forum with posts seems to be irritating people.

If you have gone off the beaten track and have something to say that everyone can understand and find useful, yes that would be welcome. It might be better to reduce the amount of postings and ask yourself each time whether what you have just written is going to be of any use to anyone.

Just a recommendation - no offence meant.

Cheers.

HEHEHE!!

All I can say is, as a visitor to Peru, there was absolutely nothing Nibu posted that was useful to me. When I asked my Peruvian friends about some of the five dollar hotels in Cusco he suggested, they laughed.

On the other hand, he DOES seem to know where some of the chicas are...but I'd have to take his word for it because when I was in Peru last I met some in areas where he'd suggested there were none. Strange for someone who has lived in Peru for so many years.

I don't mind the guy I guess. Is the criteria for banning someone as mediocre as not always having USEFUL info? He also has some strange politics, but again I just figure he's been drinking the water in Lima for too long...or inhaling the thick car exhaust on a daily basis for the past few years.

At any rate, he's never attacked anyone that I can think of...not in the Peru boards.

While I don't know this guy Nibu personally, I do peruse a lot of sections of this forum and I must say that this guy seems to go to an awful lot of countries. Either that or he's fulla shit. Either way, he strikes me as kind of an asshole either way. No offense to anybody

Hello Thrashman How are you now Why am I an asshole? Shit Man you do not know me I am the kind of guy who respects another person for respect. That is What it is about. Man I met Jackson,James Bond,John Guapo and D Crain with my buddy Juan Muro from Lima In BA Argentina in november that was me a 100% not some imposter. I was Nervous that Jackson would be pissed at me he was a great guy and so were the other guys. Jackson even said most of the guys on the board are nice guys but a few rotten assholes have to ruin it for all of us. I admit I am not perfect somtimes I post quite a bit but I do it to keep the WSG number 1 and going. Man this world is so damn big. Time is also short in this world to Blobster dude Man What I post in the Peru section is true not rubbish not false stories ask Dan Da Man from Monterrey California,Johan from Holland and Judd from Las Vegas 3 good guys that I had to privelige to meet up with here in Lima Peru Where I am living now. In march I shall hook up with Vagringo and Player 274. I am no BSERRRRRR. I think a lot of other guys on the WSG BS. WE must have unity not attacks on this board to Octatron Sailor dude you still never answered my question if you sail so much How CUM you have never hit the sleazy sailor port cities of Callao Peru and Valparaiso Chile. I find it hard that you only hit Punta Arenas Chile all the time. Ok Man I got to get going,,,,, Unity NIBU..............

nibu, i do not know you personally, just read your posts occassionally (can't take them all of the time). just want to encourage you to keep on doing your thing. you're not harming anybody, as far as i can see, and seem to enjoy yourself. you add flavour to this board and it would be poorer without you.

(edited so as not to feed the trolls)

I will not feed the trolls.
I will not feed the trolls.
I will not feed the trolls.

But it's really hard sometimes ...

LMAO

Nibu

Despite what people have been saying, you have just gone and bombed your gibberish in the Belem section of Brazil !

You say you are doing this to keep WSG as No. 1. ? Really ?

I just saw that piece of garbage post in the Belem section. I guess I have to agree that Monkey is a troll. J.G.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nibu Raphael
[i] Octatron Sailor dude you still never answered my question if you sail so much How CUM you have never hit the sleazy sailor port cities of Callao Peru and Valparaiso Chile. I find it hard that you only hit Punta Arenas Chile all the time. Ok Man I got to get going,,,,, Unity NIBU.............. [/i][/QUOTE]
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What does it matter if I've never been to Callao, Peru, or mongered in Valapraiso, Chile. Quit asking stupid questions on this board.

If I've mongered there I would post about my experience in the proper section.

PLEASE, NIBU-----PLEASE, NIBU

If you don't have anything to add do not post.

Thanks.

Nibu, while it's true I don't know you, that's beside the point. I don't believe your posts are true and you come across as a complete wimp. What can I say?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Beavis
[i]LMAO [/i][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nibu Raphael

I have many many friends on my side in the End Victory will Win,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NIBU R........... [/i][/QUOTE]

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OK.

To steal a quote from Beavis.

LMAO

Hi To Octatron Wow I must be very infamous for you to attack me all the time. I do not believe you are a Sailor at all and if you travel to Chile all the time Why no posts on Concepion,Puerto Montt,Rancagua and other sleazy places in Chile. I think you BS all the time. I do not. Yeh cancel your trip to Peru Who wants you in Peru. You will probably pay a girl 200 bucks and Jack up the prices for us. Go Hit Tequila Rock in Miraflores LimA and get ripped off. I do not believe you at all. What I say Is True. My reports in Peru are totally streetwise. You are probably some Yuppie dude anyways. Trash My reports are real not fake you are just jealous. JD I replied to JW on some scary topic stuff. I Hope for the safety of aLL wsg heads cause it looks like 203 is going to a wild ride. Yeh Great complain Big Deal. Ratufreedie Thanks Man visit me in Peru someday and I will show you all the sleazy places that most gringos are afraid to go to... Dickhead Man Why Attack Me??????'' I never have attacked you. Dickhead I know way more about Mexico then you know. Damn This is THE WSG guide not the Guide to escorts and girls to meet in strip clubs only. Lets get the posts on masage parlors and streetwalkers going. OK Man Stop all the bashing life is short Unity Unity we are Adults here,,,,, NIBU R.....

Nibu

Can you take a fricken hint?

We all feel sorry for you!

Nibu

Thank you for your 841st post, which has been as useful as the previous 840. You have now earned your retirement after such an incredible posting frenzy. I am sure you will find a chat room which has similar individuals to yourself and I am sure you will impress them as much as you have impressed us. Goodbye and good luck with the chatting !

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Beavis
[i]LMAO [/i][/QUOTE]

Hey Dudez Man that is Totally unCool we NEED unity man unity here on this Bored and I no I Should Not feed the Trollz but I just kant help my Self BecauZe it lookz like it Is Boredd 107 and Nibu zero but Man that is just UnCool beCause there is some bigg Titted ***** somewhere in Peru that Really Rules and I thinks she Suxx big heavy Metal Dick and I was A suck ass Low Paid Roady for a bunch of Heavy Metal Bands back in the 70s that Really Ruled and then I did a Bunch of Acid and Tried to fuck some Big Titted Girl for Five Bucks in some alley in I think it is the 10000000 block of I dont remember the Street but There aare a Bunch of Xex Papers that have some Numbers I cnat rember cuz I Never Was too Good with Numbers but there are some Tits oh Mann I think they are like 120 CenmtiMeteres but Shit I am really BUZZED right now so can you help be out PLEEZE and tell me where the Fuck i am cuz I have to some BIG titttttted mama right NOWWW and if I kant find it in Peru where I Knocked Up like Ten hot big Titted Bitches or maybe they were *****s I dont know so it Fucked me all up and so I put on some More Head banging music and Checked into a Two dollar Hotel in some Shit Ass town in I think It was Paraguay so can some one Pleeeeze make some New postings SomeWhere so i can figure out where the Fuck I am???

P?S DickHead has been going TO MeXico since before Nibu was Old Enogh to Jack Off.

Now [i]that[/i] is fucking funny! Brilliant parody! LMAO!

This has been the highlight of my vacation (when I wasn't banging, looking, or playing with *****s). A new most popular thread. LMAO

Dickhead!

Pease don't edit, remove this one. It's a classic!

Other than just being plain mean towards Nibu, there is no reason for all these crap postings being left here by Octaron, Dickhead, etc...

If you don't like his posts, don't read them. If people don't like your posts, I'll recommend they not read yours either.

But none of these posts belong here in the "Banned Users Hall of Shame." Indeed, posting personal attacks here is a violation of the board's TOS and could result in the flamers being banned themselves.

As for Nibu, my suggestion is not to take the bait and to ignore posts which attack you.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by OttoGraham
[i]If you don't like his posts, don't read them. If people don't like your posts, I'll recommend they not read yours either.
[/i][/QUOTE]

Otto

How can we not read them he is constantly bombing forums with jibersh which in turn takes me literally hours to filter through useful information.

I do respect your posts you did in Argentina, you are a valued contributor, and an excellent writer!

But it's not just me, If you can see from the response on this thread, many people are sick and tired of him as well.

I must admit his postings have decreased, and he removed his Belem ranting, So apparently this thread is credited towards a better WSG Forum in recent days.

Regards,

Dickhead - in the context of what we were discussing, that post was incredibly funny and got me really laughing. You got a great sense of humour - no wonder you are so successful down in BA ! Fantastic !

Otto - I for one will cease commenting on Nibu's incessant posting, if (and this is a big if) going forward, we can reduce the clutter from this forum. Nibu was a major clutterer; lets hope he has reformed.

Though I don't read his posts (I couldn't even if I tried), his disregard for others' opinions on this issue was inconsiderate. Many who contribute here are informative, articulate and humourous - I like this forum and I hope it maintains its high quality.

Here ends my two cents on this issue.

Cheers to all !

Nibu has been insulting me forever, since I am a collectivist/socialist/communist against which he is continually ranting (in violation of board rules, I might add) for no reason that is clear to me. Having said that, I think I made my point in my last post/parody and will say no more IF I can possibly restrain myself.

Otto
Most people are saying that NR's posts are crappy -that's a fact and not a personal attack on the man. I think you can see a rising level of frustration with this guy and his refusal to put some thought into his posts.
How would you like me to come to your favorite section of this great forum and put 5 useless posts there every day?
Some of us, including myself, have personally attacked him(I call him the Monkey) because of unprovoked, unjustified and very vulgar attacks initiated by the Monkey against us in the past.
And finally, if you don't like my post, don't read it! Peace. J.G.

I think there has been some good results here. But overall posts are way down on all boards, maybe except for BA. There is some need for quality control. I gave some info on Mexico in response to Saint and NR who are at very different ends of the pool. The Mexican market area is probably one of the most dangerous areas in the world, even for tough as iron Mexicans, never mnd gringos. For most of us, that is no big deal unless we intend to go there or unless, as many of us do, want to read about others going there and surviving. NR should not worry about Mexico until he goes back there. But he better stay out of that market or hisposting days are history as he will be history. Same goes for anyone.

NR's posts could be very interesting and informative if he thought a little more before he wrote. I personally would be interested in his sexual adventures in the Amazon even though I might never get there.However he should just post on what he knows about or on what directly interests him. He came into the Israel board asking about bonks there. We are all interested in Israel, Afghanistan, all the hell holes. I like the West African posts and really need some black ladies soon but asI have nothing to add there, I just read. So let's wait until the guys with the goods post.

NR should not post that he is going to email someone; just email them. Also, he should make inquiries to US embassies/consulates concerning visas.

People who met NR seem to have liked him. But busy people look here for sex related information, not that John a is going to email a JohannB.

I too saw all his posts and I asked him in the Peru section what he works at that gets him traveling around so much. The answer, and I will stop here on this note was, later man.

Lets all stop here now. Hopefully, the quality if not the quantity of posts will improve. Nibu, take a break and come back with a good description of some hot Latino town.

Hi Skinless Yeh My times living in Mexico ruled. Yes for the new year the posts are horrible really no new info at all. To BA Argentina the posts are way overloaded that sucks lets have some posts in other countries. Too many Dudes are posting like crazy in BA argentina it is way overloaded and not with much info on streetwalkers or massage places.... It seems in BA same posts expensive hotels and rip off strip clubs OK Back on to Mexico yes Mexico is a bargain. We all know the most expensive Latin place in the world is Puerto Rico which is actually US Property. So Skinless What Mexico City is much more dangerous now since 1998? I respect you that you know a lot just like me. I am glad you are kicking ass on your reports in Thailand. WE must Unite on the WSG for more posts. Damn look at Belize no info For ages there And Why hardly any posts in Chile. Octatron reports on Cold Punta Arenas does not do justice at all there are much better places to go to in Chile then way down there. To Dickhead you are a Commie that sucks Big time I hope you are joking on this. Yes I posted on Isreal and Afghanistan cause those other two countries fascinate me too. What about Libya I never saw a post there and prostitution does exist there. Gaddafi gets girls from other African contries to work there... Ok Man I got to take a raging [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Rock On Sex And Rock N Roll Forver NO No Salsa Ha Ha,,,,,, Signing off,,,,,,,,,,,,, NIBU R.........

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Will you ever learn?

First off! If you do a Forum search with my username, you will see that I had made posts on allot more than southern Chile!

Second! Again your ranting on about generalized nada. No more chatting!

Remember your new appointed goal! Quality over Quantity!

Nibu

Have you not understood what you have been reading in this section ? Your posts are garbage. The posts in the BA section are of good quality - perhaps you don't understand what people are saying.

You have insulted Dickhead whose posts are very entertaining and informative.

Your finale says it all....."....Ok Man I got to take a raging [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Rock On Sex And Rock N Roll Forver NO No Salsa Ha Ha,,,,,, Signing off,,,,,,,,,,,,, NIBU R........."

What kind of jibberish is that ?

Have you found yourself a chat room ? Yes, go there straightaway and spare us your illiterate, rambling, nonsensical garbage.

Get the message ?

I have to agree Dickhead's posts are interesting.

Nibu you really post a ton, most of which are not very useful.

skinless, your posts haven't been useful for a long while either, though I think you're alright.

Nibu is at it again.

He is bombing Ecuador.


SIGH

Perhaps Nibu is shooting for 1000 posts(the first in this forum?). I just hope his posts are more informative and coherent.

I don't think that Nibu's posts will ever get more informative and coherent. He would not understand what these words mean. He clearly has no regard for anything that people have said and continues to bomb this forum with trash.

I think the guy is infantile. We should continue to ignore his rantings. Clearly he is not going to stop spreading his trash from country to country.

Nibu, only one or two people read your trash, so why don't you get their email addresses and write to them directly. Let the rest of us appreciate the posts in this forum without your clutter. Do you understand what I have just said - if not ask someone in the internet shop to read this and explain to you.

Guys,

Stop the bull*** and lets talk about women.

Piloto

Sorry this thread, this section is the proper venue for what we need to discuss. As you can see there are far to many people who feel that Nibu does more harm than good with his illiterate forum bombing!.

The sections categorized geographically are the place to talk about women.

Sorry octatron, I understand this is the place to talk about banned users and what users should be banned, not to throw a chain of insults to a user that makes a great collaboration to this site and everything he writes is about where to find women.

I have personally been twice in Lima and some of Nibu's posts have helped me a lot there. Give the guy a break...

Piloto

Now if you go back through this thread I have not once personally insulted Nibu. I have clearly stated my unhappiness on what he has done to this forum with his bombing.

If you go back far enough you would see that I use to be a large contributor in Peru. however I gave up on Peru, as he has destroyed it. I just am sick and tired that he is destroying other countries now too.

In fact? Why don’t you look at Other Areas in Chile, and see how much he has posted rubbish in there.

If Jackson thinks I’m out of line, I’ll wait for him to tell me, by email, by a reply in this thread, or by my own banishment.

Hi Piloto thanks Man it sucks we never ever met up in Lima Maybe next time around. Well hey Piloto keep me updated on Puerto Rico if you can That would be great. I still feel Puerto Rico lacks a lot of posts. Argentina gets way too many posts in the BA Section and always the same type of posts. To Octatron Back then I thought you were my friend until a fellow WSG friend says look at The Banned Users section you might get pissed on What Octatron is calling you. You started this attack on me personal. Why call me a troll??? You seem like the Troll not me. I looked at your old posts in Lima all you mention is the Yuppie places yeh Larco Mar Yeh Senor frogs. Dude you do not much about Lima. Do you know about the clubs in Los Olivos in Lima? Blvd. Los Olivos? Vaqueros on Colonial? Pitchers in Los Olivos? Persopolis? Before I came it was the trendy Rip off places posted all the time Like Tequila and other places. My posts in Chile has done more justice then your dumb posts on Puerto Montt and Punta Arenas. Why do you not visit Santiago and The Port City of Valparaiso? Osorno? Valdivia? Talca? Talcahuano? How old are you Octatron that you get a kick out of attacking me? HOW OLD are You? You act like a 10 year old attacking me all the time And TO JD drink your JD your thoughts are useless,,,,,,, NIBU R.............

[QUOTE]You started this attack on me personal. Why call me a troll??? [/i][/QUOTE]

Where did I call you a troll? In fact I stated you were not a troll! Again I said you were not a troll!

See again you write things that are coherent, don't make sense, and are not true.

"My posts in Chile has done more justice then your dumb posts on Puerto Montt and Punta Arenas. "

At least people will understand, read, and find my posts useful that may be off the beaten track!

Nibu, I am not attacking you personally!

WE ALL WANT YOU TO THINK BEFORE YOU POST MOST OF THE USELESS GARBAGE YOU WRITE! CAN YOU PLEASE CONSIDER EVERYBODY ELSE, AND START WRITING CLEAR AND COHERENT POSTINGS.

"BassGod was correct he was a troll."

I was referring to adlez, he was a troll.

"Hopefully the next one is NR. "

I was not stating you were a troll, I was just hoping you would be the next one that get's banned. Due to the fact that all you do is bomb the forum with incoherent and a very high percentage of useless postings.

So I hope that clears up any confusion?

This is exactly what we are talking about!

Look the all the postings below Nibu has made just today!

Bombing, bombing, and bombing.

Does anybody need anymore proof?


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Belize City


Post: I heard there is A Casino in centro Belize called

Preview: I heard there is A Casino in centro Belize called Odyssey where after 11 Freelancers CUm in. Any info on this can someone post it? Are there also any streetwalkers in Belize City? Are there any other Casinos...


Santiago


Post: BIG BG bud. Where are ya?' PLEASE make an update o

Preview: BIG BG bud. Where are ya?' PLEASE make an update on the sex scene in Santiago? More info on those massage places and streetwalkers too. Hey can you give us the scoop on the streetgirls of Gen. Vicuna Makenna...

Quito


Post: Hey Elvis would you have any info on Quito now for

Preview: Hey Elvis would you have any info on Quito now for the year 2003? Like I made in other posts Ecaudorian women are very hot Just like Peruvian women. Quito is a great destination. Any updates I would...


Other Areas


Post: Cote Did you find out about the massage parlors in

Preview: Cote Did you find out about the massage parlors in Valencia? How are the streetgirls now in Valencia? Any one have info on Puerto La Cruz and Merida?


Other Areas


Post: HMMM Bear I would like to know more on Leon too. I

Preview: HMMM Bear I would like to know more on Leon too. I know Leon has quite a few strip clubs. I would love info on Leon on Where The street*****s are and also if any massage places exist.....


Other Areas


Post: Any New updates on Piedras Negras? What are the av

Preview: Any New updates on Piedras Negras? What are the average prices? How is the Boys town and strip clubs????


Other Areas


Post: Porker thanks for the info on Saltillo. What about

Preview: Porker thanks for the info on Saltillo. What about massage places? Strip clubs and streetwalkers in Saltillo? I mean I think Saltillo is a big city of like 500,000 I guess the city fathers keep it to conservative....


Lima


Post: HMMM I think the street is Ave. Bausate Y Meza it

Preview: HMMM I think the street is Ave. Bausate Y Meza it is on the north side of the st. Next to the vegatable Market like two small blocks there on the left side you will see a big door and entrance with a lot...


Other Areas


Post: Hi Poturu If you go to Pucallpa The Amatuer Action

Preview: Hi Poturu If you go to Pucallpa The Amatuer Action is better then the pro. action I was there once for a night only Try it but I would try Iquitos first if I was you,,,, Later.... NIBU R.......


Iquitos


Post: Wow Next month I should be in Iquitos. I need info

Preview: Wow Next month I should be in Iquitos. I need info on this great big jungle city before I come there. I guess I am coming when it is still the rainy season. I hope the flight will not be that bad. Dan...


General Info


Post: No Problem dude make it up for me by making a grea

Preview: No Problem dude make it up for me by making a great post in the San Juan Puerto Rico section,,,, Later NIBU R.....


Other Areas


Post: Hi Is there any out there besides Octatron that co

Preview: Hi Is there any out there besides Octatron that could make some good informative posts on other cities in Chile like Osorno,Temuco,Talca,Talcahuano,Valdivia,La Serena,Copiapo and more cities in centro...


has made in one day.

Man, those posts Really Rule.

(I originally posted this on another board, but I felt that it would be appropriate here, as well.)

I'm neither a supporter nor an antagonist of anyone on this board. However, I felt that I need to speak up a little and just let my thoughts be known. LET'S STOP IT WITH PUTTING DOWN OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD - THIS GOES BOTH WAYS.


(1) Now, I'm not going to go into finger-pointing (no names in this post), but I will state that we should all post freely and, if you have anything against the manner in which another member posts, unless what they're doing is truly out of the rules, just e-mail them personally rather than wasting our time in having to read your arguments; if you truly unable to refrain yourself from publicly posting on it, be civil.

(2) Reciprocally, even if you're the one being attacked on this board, just ignore them and keep posting in the manner in which you think would be best for this board; if you've had some constructive criticism, consider it and try to apply it. Maybe you need to sincerely consider what others are saying about your posts, and, perhaps, you can apply their criticism to your posts to make a change for the better. Cool?

If we keep to these guidelines, the more people will be posting more quality posts ... without the bickering nor having people hold-back from posting information. The last thing I need is for people to stop posting on this board due to hostilities.


Thanks for indulging me, guys! I'll try not to talk 'wsg-politics' anymore ... with the hope that these 'politics' will cease. Talk to you later, my friends.

"LET'S STOP IT WITH PUTTING DOWN OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD - THIS GOES BOTH WAYS."

WE are just asking for quality over quantity!

You need to take a little constructive criticism, I've looked at all my posts I've made here, and I have not really personally attacked you Nibu. Just please slow down on your daily bombs. That’s all we ask?

Think before you click "Submit Message"

Thanks.

Here is Jackson's opinion on the quality of Nibu's posts:

[quote][i][blue]I guess I'd better step in here and explain my strategy. My decision to create a seperate section for a specific poster is usually so that their multiple trip reports posts can retain a sense of continunity. However, in Nibu's case, I simply wanted to keep his indecipherable gibberish out of the main thread.

Jackson[/blue][/i][/QUOTE]Nibu, "indecipherable gibberish" means "useless crap."

Dickhead the Communist Atheist

Unless I need to defend one of my previous posts. I think the point has been made!

Happy Mongering!

Guys - just my two cents worth - Nibu is a bit hard to understand and I usually scan his "stuff" for the occassional item of interest; however, he has done nothing "wrong" (unless you consider verbosity an offense - and he IS the only poster who goes into the "back woods" of the Amazon routinely) and shouldn't be "banned". As for you, Nibu, a bit of PUNCTUATION would help... IF English IS your first language (I don't doubt that it is, but I wonder what they teach in Chi Town)

I'm not supporting his postings, just his participation. You DON'T have to read it, after all (just skip over it, I _usually_ do except for Lima, where he seems to know his stuff)

Nibu

At this stage, every time I see he is the last person to post, I ignore that section. I am probably missing very good information posted by others but...

Jackson has tried to facilitate this memberbut I feel the time has come for more direct action.

Why not have a poll?

Take care all.

LatinTraveller

Play2, I totally disagree with you. This board needs to be on track and it goes out of track when individuals bombard the board with useless posts. We have to point it out to the individuals. And some individuals just don't get it into their thick heads.

(rapid fire wrap-up)

DJ - I understand and respect your point of view ... and I hope that you understand and respect my point too.

Agreed Octratron - the point has been made.

Latin, I don't know about making a poll ... this topic (although probably intriguing to many readers) has hopefully run it's course. Nonetheless, feel free to do as you want.

Nibu - there's no need to feel hurt; I just state things as I see them ... no matter who I speak to. I don't try to attach excess feelings when I state things that I objectively believe, and I hope that you don't misconstrue my posts.

Dickhead - you're a communist atheist too? After the cold war, I didn't know that there were many of us left around (this was meant in jest ... and is not a political statement ... lol).

Dinghy, you're right - people should just skip over posts that they don't want to read ... similar to how many readers are concurrently skipping over my post.

DJ ... on second thought ... there's nothing wrong with a THICK HEAD, is there? Just as the last girl who was lucky enough to be with me said ... "mmm ... thick head." Well ... okay fine ... in this aspect, maybe I did miscontrue your last phrase.


With that said and done ... I'm not gonna spend any more of my posts on this topic. Whatever I say are just suggestions that I want to throw out there ... I never want to impose my opinions on others.

Okay. The next posts that you see from me ... will be ones of my journeys in SHEER enjoyment. To all - thanks for all your posts on all these boards. Keep up the great work ... and play it safe and hard!

-play2

dinghy,

NIBU is a Polock from Chicago. I'm not sure if he emigrated from Poland or is a first generation American but I can understand his disdain for Commies. The only good Commie is a dead Commie. I personally think he's jacked up on South American coffee and after years of head-banging coupled with caffine his post's consist of to much jibberish.

Many of us have appealed to Nibu to stop his bombing of this forum with trash but he has not taken any heed of our appeals. It is not surprising that some people are getting very irritated. I was not going to say any more on this subject, but I do feel that Nibu's postings lower the quality of this board. I am sure one or two people have gleaned some information from his postings but most people feel like I do.

Before I went to Peru, I checked out the Peru section but was put off by his postings. The Argentina and Brazil sections kept me coming back (thankfully Nibu free). I wonder how many people have had a look at this forum, seen Nibu's posts and thought "No thanks" and have gone away for good.

Can you imagine if all the members of this forum contributed daily with phrases such as "RocK andRoLL ruLes" and "SaLsa SUCks" and "coMMiEs scuk" and "Man, I goT to taKe a raGing [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]..." ? The forum would be swamped with trash.

Do I want him banned ? I would prefer that he is rehabilitated.

50 or so posts by Nibu were deleted.. by Jackson..?

This is to Jackson!

Thank you very much for your efforts on this subject.

If we can’t rehabilitate then we can quarantine!

Much appreciated!

Guys, face facts, this guy is simply a wimp and a loser and full of shit. He gets his jollies by writing douchebag crap here instead of getting laid. Forget him.

As regards the last comment, actually, of the posters on this board, Nibu probably gets laid the most.

Now, the fact that a lot of his girls are, let's be tactful, "at the lower end of the sociological scale," puts him "at the other end of the pool" from old Uncle Otto. So while his posts might not be useful for my own prowling, I know there is useful information contained within a lot of them.

Reading this thread, the only name amongst the posters attacking Nibu whose name I recognize as having provided useful, on-subject G-2 is Dickhead. His posts on his time in BA had me pissing my pants from laughing too much. He might be a Commie, but he writes well..... Perhaps we can take up a collection and have him scope out the scene in Pyongyang.

Maybe some of you other fellows have had something useful to say, but I haven't seen it. I have seen a lot of attacks passing for commentary.

Nibu, you didn't take my advice not to take the bait. Shame on you, I am going to have your John Birch Society membership revoked......

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Admin
[i]Reason: Requesting information on finding minors for sex in the Phillippines and Thailand sections, as follows:

"When in the philipean is there any place to find 12 year old and 10 year old as well as 15 year old *****s?"

"Does anyone knowwhen in bangkok to find 10 , 12 15 and 16 year old *****s? I herd that the ***** houses and tea houses specialize in that what would the prices be."

[blue]What more do I need to say?[/blue] [/i][/QUOTE]Admin, Jackson

I don't envy your job at all..DO you get paid for having this forum UP online? if not then you need to be compensate for it via ads companies.

how about kicking a moron called tallnhandsome, for :
a)going on and on about nonsense like sushi.
b)insulting other senior members, though not myself.
c)lying about going to thailand, amsterdam and london. when he's never been out of orange county, l.a.
d)claiming to have had sex with an **** girl in thailand.
e)detioriorating discussions in several threads.
g)general shamelessness

if z can get kicked, this tallanddumb should be kicked immediately. if not, he should be downgraded to regular member at the very least.

Even if I am a regular member, I want to support the Dick Johnson's request.

A quick of check the infamous CallStreet's website reveals he was reincarnated as TallnHandsome. Look on his Yahoo Groups website [message 367] where he inadvertantly ends one of his messages with ....by T&H.

Jackson,

Could I request that you review the "Senior Member" status of "The E" as I believe regular member status is more than open minded for that clown.

He has 49 posts, and as far as I can tell, ZERO usable information in any of them... He has made dozens of inane requests for for wierd ethnic SWs and most of his posts are either basic RTFF questions or bitching about a slow forum.

He got into a major pissing match with no less than five senior members of the DC board in April.

LoveLOS

Jackson,

I have to concur with my buddy LoveLos. It seems that this 'The E' guy has been stirring up shit all over the place. We have reviewed all of his past posts and cannot find any usable info. Now, we don't want to question your authority or anything, so please don't think that we are. I just think that this guy got grandfathered into senior member when you made the change a couple months ago. Unfortunately, he doesn't deserve it!

Thank you for listening to our bitching!

Keep up the excellent work! We love what you do!

Thanks,
Box

Please Select "Add New Report" to begin this Section.

Jackson - We've got a problem child on the Maryland > Jessup board, and perhaps elsewhere; please see msgs from "Jony Vegas" (sic) on that board. Thanks.

Haz

[blue]Hi Haz,

I crushed that bug,

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scoots
[i]A quick of check the infamous CallStreet's website reveals he was reincarnated as TallnHandsome. Look on his Yahoo Groups website [message 367] where he inadvertantly ends one of his messages with ....by T&H. [/i][/QUOTE]I think your logic is flawed (in other words not clever). I did once contributed to that group indirectly - at least they are liberal with english. I didn't post myself but asked that my handle be included if the info ever get posted - to let clever reader knows that the same information contributed to WSG and that group are from the same person, me. If you don't see my handle, then you can assume that the poster is me, because the same piece of info can be also found in WSG.

The correct spelling of inadvertantly is inadvertently.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TallnHandsome
[i]The correct spelling of inadvertantly is inadvertently. [/i][/QUOTE]Hmm, so it's ok for [i]you[/i] to be liberal with English (let's see: it should be "I did once contribute" and "clever readers" among other things) but you're going to correct someone's spelling? Hilarious!

[quote]originally posted by dick johnson
[i]how about kicking a moron called tallnhandsome, for :
a)going on and on about nonsense like sushi.
b)insulting other senior members, though not myself.
c)lying about going to thailand, amsterdam and london. when he's never been out of orange county, l.a.
d)claiming to have had sex with an **** girl in thailand.
e)detioriorating ( correct spelling: deteriorating ) discussions in several threads.
g)general shamelessness

if z can get kicked, this tallanddumb should be kicked immediately. if not, he should be downgraded to regular member at the very least. [/i][/quote]

dick, i didn't find any need to reply to your accusations. you are the kind of guys that will incite mob violence. guys like indigo will support you. if you look at his post and you will understand; but try not to laugh.

but since i'm also interested in the human side of things, here is my impression of you. you are the kind of born general without a single soldier type, that every school class have at least some. you are bound to find someone listen to your shit since they have to live with you for years after all. but once they are freed, you found that no one wants to listen and you have to find platforms with willing ears.

but even in wsg i don't think people are interested in your post. come on, hk, taiwan, singapore? you had better find some actual prostitutes to report, or at least find something new and exciting. but you seems to special in public health that wsg isn't a good platform, unless the punters don't read news at all. after all, all the decent tourist hotels in those cities have cnn in every room.

i'm not judging the quality of of your post in places i'm not familiar. but for la, your info includes 'catalina has nothing', 'i said 2 years ago that incall is better than outcall'. come on, all those guys on the board are locals.

i can see that you are not a man of reason. you don't even try to back up your finger pointing.

a) some guys said they know authentic cuisine from non-authentic cuisine. i'm just giving an good example that the line is hardly that clearly drawn. the relevance is to c.

b) it shows what sort of person are you.

c) it's as silly as accusing joe_zop of emailing you virus. did you find the evidence yet?

d) it's taken out of context. it was never a big deal to do girls in the borderline cases as long as they look old enough to take it, until us imposes their law all over the world. before that nobody will be that silly checking id's. as long as the girl looks old enough, you have the moral high ground. even today in many european countries it's no big deal when you find out afterward that the girl is a few month short, provided that someone actually bother to complain and someone bother to catch you.

e) i don't see you involved that much. same as b.

f) did you forget your alphabets?

g) i doubt if anyone is willing to say these to your face. not worth it. but get use to the internet age. i'm telling you what is in my brain. good for you.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe_Zop
[i]Hmm, so it's ok for [i]you[/i] to be liberal with English (let's see: it should be "I did once contribute" and "clever readers" among other things) but you're going to correct someone's spelling? Hilarious! [/i][/QUOTE]
Joe, can you see that it's my good illustration of what I meant by liberal with English? Can you think outside the box? I am, you are, he is, are these different verbs necessary to convey any different meaning? No. Just as WSG readers choose what laws to obey and what to break, these are just grammatical rules. Chinese icons has no tense. Is it worse? Hindi scripts has a verb stem with lots of things around it, including tense and whether the action is completed or not. Is it better? Action and time are two independent things and I don't really bother to hurt my brain for no good reason.

As for spelling, I just happen to have a free browser integrated spell checker. That's what perfect spelling is worth (less). Same for grammar. The reason I correct spelling is to help Jackson out, and make sure that when I quote other people, their misspelling don't count as mine.

I'm sorry, but the point is very simple: it's laughable for you to assert that you are somehow endowed with the ability to use "special English" and then to criticise someone's spellling. The issue of your spell chekcer is truly secondary to that of your essential attitude. Just how special do you think you deserve to be, as opposed tot he poster you've criticisized? Your grammar and hebrephenic approach is ok, but someone making a minor mistake on a specific word is not? As always, you miss the major point in service of the obtuse: You are a grammatically lazy fuck who has no right to criticize anyone's mistakes -- if you want to complain about a breaking of language rules, then first follow them yourself, otherwise you're simply as disingenuous as can be.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe_Zop
[i]I'm sorry, but the point is very simple: it's laughable for you to assert that you are somehow endowed with the ability to use "special English" and then to [criticise] someone's [spellling]. The issue of your spell [chekcer] is truly secondary to that of your essential attitude. Just how special do you think you deserve to be, as opposed [tot he] poster you've [criticisized]? Your grammar and [hebrephenic] approach is ok, but someone making a minor mistake on a specific word is not? As always, you miss the major point in service of the obtuse: You are a grammatically lazy fuck who has no right to [criticize] anyone's mistakes -- if you want to complain about a breaking of language rules, then first follow them yourself, otherwise you're simply as disingenuous as can be. [/i][/QUOTE]

I hate to add another post but Joe you say time and time again that I criticize whatever. I didn't. I just point out and correct the spelling with my given reasons. No complain. That's not a crime too. Over and out.

By the way, you score 7 in one paragraph that I [square bracketed], well done. I assume if you teach British English in US, those count as errors too. Are you challenging my spell checker or Jackon's rules?

I'm saying that if you're going to swim in shit you've got little right to talk about someone else's hygiene. You argue on this board that following grammar rules is something you don't think needs to apply to you, but then you have the gall to point out other people's minor errors. That makes you a sanctimonious ass. Saying this is to "help Jackson out" is absurd, as is worrying that by quoting someone those errors are going to be attributed to you -- the quotation italics make very clear who said what. My general level of writing sophistication is at least equal to anyone else on this board, but I sure as heck don't go around pointing out typos in an attempt to demonstrate superiority over other posters, as you consistently do.

(Oooh, geez, I made some typos -- thanks so much for pointing them out -- would you like to go through and categorize them according to type of error? I.e., "chekcer" and "hebrephenic" being transpositional errors, etc.? That would certainly be a major contribution to the content of this board, and would alleviate you from having to actually deal with the content involved, which seems to be your general approach. Far better to put "hebephrenic" in brackets than deal with what the word actually means, right? I suppose these somehow made my point so unclear that a twit like you couldn't understand it.)

This is definitely a time I agree wholeheartedly with Dick Johnson.

Tallanddumb, thank you for your TIMELY (sarcasm) response. It was back in April when I made the last post on this thread. I also questioned if you are Korean. And then recently on Yahoo I found YOU - 'tallandhandsome2002' posting that "N. KOREA SHOULD NUKE USA!"

If you hate USA so much then go back to Korea you f*&k. Or I'll have Homeland Security on your tails, dumbass.

Dick, as I've said, I did not feel the need to response to your obviously groundless finger pointing - that's why the timely response. Did you get more virus from Joe, you not clever guy? My email on record is tallnhandsom2000, did you make up the yahoo posts?

COMES AROUND: Jackson, please ban this asshole immediately and delete his posts. He is obviously some juvenile prick posting girls' email addresses as a great joke. He has three posts for different parts of Japan and all they give is email addresses and at least one senior member, Fishmonger, has fallen for his bait.

Jackson,

First of all thanks for restoring the board. However something has to be done about this Larry ***** guy. He is posting nothing but garbage not to mention wasting his time and ours. Thanks for listening.

Yankee

[blue]Hi Yankee,

Thanks for the head's up. This guy is a complete waste of bandwidth, so as of today, he's history.

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson:

Thanks for deleting this Larry *******. At the same time, I am glad that made my response to him unnecessary.

I wanted to report his post to you but when I clicked on the "report this post to moderator" I did not know to which category his posts belonged, so I hesitated and just send off a new post in response. Sorry about not letting you know earlier.

Lilojo

[blue]Hi Lilojo,

It's easy. Just use the "Report this post to a moderator" function to report the post. The function will open a dialog box where you can enter your comments, and when you select the OK button, it will send me an email with your comments and a link directly back to the suspect report. This is so easy foe me because I don't have to hunt for the suspected report.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

It's been a long time since I read this particular thread. It just goes to support my position that this Forum is one of the most entertaining things on the web today. I never fail to get a laugh, a hard on, and a good idea whenever I spend a bit of time perusing the site.

Unlike most other of these type web sites, our admin has the good sense and good humor to come out of the dark and say something rather salient or sometimes downright really funny from time to time. It completes the circle.

Reading some of the firefights between posters gets me to laughing sometimes and then I realize that there have been times when I have gotten into verbal fisticuffs here and must sound much the same as those that make me laugh.

I do applaud our admin though for having the courage of his convictions to actually eject people from time to time when the situation actually warrants it and not just for some minor and usually inadvertant egregious infraction of rules. He knows when to bend and when not to and that's a valuable thing. It means that people actually have an opportunity to learn from mistakes and see the error of their ways and change. I have read posts in all areas that show that in action. I think that it also allows guys to kind of let their hair down so to speak and perhaps say or ask things that they might not otherwise ahve the opportunity or feel safe enough to do so. I think that's why the posts are not always 100% pussy finding in nature, but instead run the gamut and prove to be a really useful tool with which to learn. I know it has helped me both get what I want as well as have the balls to do things that are pretty wild in a relatively safe manner.

Enough said, thank you Jackson.

dear jackson.

(posted this in letters to ed too before i saw this section ! sorry)

i appreciate you have a major task running this board, and a fantastic thing it is, well done.

could you take a peek at recent run of messages in russia/moscow section.

i don't wish to name people specifically but if you read back over a few pages you will note one member often puts down other members and has taken taken up a less than decent and respectful attitude to other members in general. i am sure many regular moscow section readers are getting beyond laughing at the behaviour and finding it rather tedious.

many thankks in advance.

dt

Jackson,

Primera, thanks for the Sr. status.

Segunda, there is a poster in the Dominican Republic photo gallery, Dominican Hunk , who has been posting photos from Brazil and other areas , and claiming them to be from RD. Several members have called him out on this, and one was able to refer the photo to the Brazil photo gallery.

I feel a bit childish doing this...but it is a slap at the other members who really do contribute valuable info.

Muchas gracias.

Jackson,

I am making this report since, for the past week I have logged off of WSG, fuming about a situation that you are probably aware exists, but possibly are not aware is a cancer at WSG. I wish to report a troll, who has repeatedly violated the rules of the forum and stirred up an amazing amount of controversy and, in the most recent event, anger. I want you to know this because the said party claims he is your close friend. No, not just claims, he brags about it everywhere he goes. And it is to your detriment and the detriment of WSG. Just to clarify, this is the same matter that WSG senior member Trashman recently posted on this board. The cancer: OttoGraham.

Recently he has begun confusing his status as a senior member and yours as the administrator. He has more than one time confused his station with yours, and is not reticent to admit that he has special privileges that other senior members do not enjoy. In light of the recent incident with this party in United States > Virginia > Northern Virginia I further believe and am convinced that one of two conditions exist:
1. You have shown exceptional preferential treatment to this member.
-or-
2. He has the admin password.

Jackson, with all due respect, either condition is untenable given that this member, while being an excellent writer and contributor in his areas of visitation, has shown very little regard or respect for those who contribute the most to WSG in areas where he has contributed [b]absolutely nothing[/b]. He keeps talking about sniping and trolling and flaming as driving good posters away while is fanning the flames, continuing to troll, referring to us as children, and finding it necessary to have the last word even when the local seniors have asked that we get back on subject. I am not talking about local seniors with 11 posts to their credit, I am talking about the guys with 300 - 400 - 500 or 1400 posts who have carried the local boards for years without Mr Graham's wisdom or guidance.

In addition, Mr Graham has gone so far as to [b]personally[/b] invite a highly respected senior member to post elsewhere and to let [b]him[/b] know if he had a problem with it and then [b]told the member[/b] (as opposed to advised the member) to edit his post. As I understand it, only Jackson can make those statements on this forum.

Sir, we know it's your sandbox and we thank you for letting us play, and we pretty much have the rules understood. And if we get hot under the collar and out of line, all you have ever needed to do is drop a note and we have always gone ship shape immediately. But I will not be lambasted and lectured by an imperious jerk who has never contributed to the local area, even if he does so "in your name." It is precisely that he claims to be doing all things in your name, while being the ultimate troll, that is so infuriating in this issue.

For that reason, I have and will continue to contribute NOTHING of consequence to WSG until you feel you can muzzle your close friend, and I would prefer either your comment of support in this matter (or an apology from Mr Graham) on open forum. If you feel that I am completely out of line in feeling so strongly on this issue, I remind you that it is always in you purview to terminate my membership.

Kind regards,
LoveLOS

Reference also: [url]http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=186748#post186748[/url]

OK Guys, I vowed silence, and I apologize that I am going to stir up a hornets nest here. I'm pissed and this needs airing out. I respectfully submit that my comments NOT be edited by the admin because this is not a personal attack, I will stick to the facts, this is an attitude adjustment that needs to be made, and as one of the two most senior members here, I am making this adjustment even if it costs me my membership. That is how strongly I feel about the subject. Other local members probably have not researched the history of our new friend Mr Otto Graham.

Background: He joined WSG as a contributor in June of 2002 and immediately made friends with the admin, the respected Jackson who hosts this wonderful forum. In fact, his fourth report was actually filed by his new friend. It turns out that Otto is a gifted and talented writer of trip reports and soon gathered a large following of fans on WSG. His friend Jackson soon gave him his own board in Argentina, where he has contributed much. I first noticed him when he spammed the whole of WSG to contribute to the WSG charities, then later spammed the whole of WSG to tell us about PMs. While spamming the boards is against the rules here, it is obvious he did so with the admin's blessing, so very few people quibbled. I estimate these posts added at least 150 -200 to his post count, not that anyone looks at that when considering the contributions a member has made to WSG. Those few incidents are the only time I have noticed he has "contributed" to our welfare here in the DC/Nova area.

On 02-25-04, about four pages back, a new member Jim Rob made a rather "un-researched" post asking about AMPS in the area. You have seen the basic RTFF type question. However, Mr Graham went so far as to accuse the newbie of being a law enforcement officer!! WOW! I felt that was strong, perhaps even a personal attack, hmmmmmm? I added instructions for RTFF, and Trashman added a rather gentle asswhipping in case the newbie missed my subtle hints. Now, everybody who reads this board knows that when the Trashman speaks, that is usually the end of the issue.

At this juncture, I will introduce the concept of a troll. A troll is someone who fans the flames when they need not be fanned, someone who has to have the last word and does not have the perception to see that they should just shut up.

OK, call me ignorant for asking, but please give me a show of hands of those who think it is a good idea to tell the Trashman he is acting childish, being profane or insulting? Oh I see one hand. Our troll, Otto. He managed to do this while still calling the newbie a cop, and telling myself and the Trashman that it was his decision to stop insulting the new guy. Excuse me? Since when is a non-contributor calling the shots on a local board? He did call on his stolen admin password or his best friend (the jury is still out on that one) to edit a few choice zingers out of Trash's post. Well, the troll did his work well and got the expected response from Trashman, which he also edited or had edited. Funny thing about that post was there was a lot of editing done that had nothing to do with a personal attack, just some explatives. I would call that some very special editing that we normally do not see, and is the basis for my theory of the stolen admin password.

In the mean time, our spanking of Jim Rob had the desired effect and he agreed to mend his lazy ways, so I took the responsibility for calling it quits on his persecution. I welcomed his posts to the board and pointed out that even senior members (and referred to Mr Graham) sometimes do things that were out of line and we get after them, but we don't hold grudges when they conform to the expectations of the board. I then made a very plain admonition to Mr Graham that he was out of line and tried to gently explain in what ways he had offended myself and the Trashman. I also explained to him that, although this board may seem a bit harsh in meting out punishment for errors, we are gentle enough that we lose very few of those we spank. I thought I had made it very very plain that we need not continue the thread any further.

Unfortunately, rather than yielding to local members senior to himself who, for the second time, had attempted to bring closure to the thread, the [b]troll[/b] spoke again. He played the respect to Jackson card to lambast two members who, from the actions noted here, have far more respect for Jackson than Mr Graham. Ironic was the words he used:[quote]..we can't just decide to come into his living room, take a dump on the carpet, throw bricks at the TV screen, and call it "my home."[/quote] The irony is that if you accept his position the board is Jackson's (which we agree to) then this post and the previous troll post was just another pile of shit on his carpet. If you are one of the many here who think of this board as your "home" on WSG, then again, the troll just threw another brick through our computer screens.

Trashman apparently tried one more time to get the troll to silence, but the troll had his comments deleted before anyone read them. At that point Trashman called it quits on the thread and I stopped contributing to WSG out of protest. I have, however been researching the archives and I have now come to the conclusion that this is not an isolated incident, but a pattern of behavior which, IMHO the admin needs to moderate or Mr Graham needs to repent of.

Otto, you continually tell us that you are working for the betterment of the forum. I believe that you are sincere in that respect. Unfortunately your 'imperial' attitude, lack of respect for other seniors on this site (due to your special relationship with the MAN), your apparent need to pontificate, and your lack of understanding of how others feel about the local boards, and finally the feeding of the troll; has had the opposite effect. Without making a statement that may affect their status, I am not the only one who is abstaining from contributions to WSG until a reform is made. We have no problems with adhering to Jackson's rules; but until HE tells US, publicly, that you are co-admin, we do have a problem submitting to your lecturing.

For the third time I admonish you to please put this behind us so we may get on with the purpose of this forum. Yes, I ask you to humble yourself from your position of power, but I believe the exchange will be beneficial.

Peace,
LoveLOS

Yes this is one hell of a long post, but I add the following to substantiate my concerns that this behavior is neither isolated nor accepted on other local WSG boards. Please note that I am not quoting from any regular members, all of these guys are respected senior members on WSG with at 400 to 1400 posts to their credit:

[quote]Originally posted by [b]OttoGraham[/b] 01-06-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand
Boys (and I do mean [b]boys[/b]!):

This is Jackson's sandbox. We just play here because he's kind enough to let us do so. I think what he wrote just below ought to be the final word on all this nonsense.

In other words: Grow up!

-Uncle Otto[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by [b]OttoGraham[/b] 01-06-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand
WSG is bigger than any one poster, unless that poster is [b]Admin[/b]. I do not cry over the loss of any poster, especially one who can dish it out but not take it when it is thrown back at him.

Almost all of you are acting like a bunch of crybabies, IMHO. [red]ed note: ZERO, I repeat ZERO tolerance for personal attacks.[/red]

-Uncle Otto[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by [b]Joe Zop[/b] 01-07-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand
Obviously, Uncle Otto, we value and care deeply for your opinion and name calling, and have appreciated all your enlightening and valuable field reports in the Thailand section.[/i][/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by [b]Skinless[/b] 01-07-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand [b]edited for brevity, emphasis mine[/b][i]
Otto: ...snip... Trollers and flamers do not help: I am not classifying you as one but merely pointing out the dynamics to you. [b]Please don't feed the troll.[/b]
...snip...
Joe: Let's ignore our latest troll.[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by [b]OttoGraham[/b] 01-06-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand [b]emphasis mine[/b]
[b]Over a bottle of wine and a fine dinner, my good friend Jackson[/b] recently confided to me that his biggest pain in the ass with hosting this site comes from people in the Thailand section constantly sniping at one another.

My attention was drawn to this section recently when one of your number made the point of cross-posting his personal problems/gripes on this subject on a number of other threads on this site. As the problem seems to be metastastsizing like a cancer, [b]I decided to come take a look at the root of the problem myself.[/b] [red]ed note: Your initiative, not Jacksons?[/red]

You are absolutely right that I've not contributed field reports on the Thailand section. I've contributed them in the U.K., Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Russia, Argentina, and a few others. [red]ed note: who cares where you have posted? that was not the issue[/red] But as for Thailand, I've not visited yet, and thus can't offer any reports. However, just like my lack of contributions to the Thailand section, all this juvenile sniping and flaming doesn't add anything either! Indeed, it drives good posters away. [red]ed note: Damn, case in point. I quit until Uncle Otto is muzzled![/red]

I've taken the trouble to read quite a bit of the Thailand board for the past several months' worth of posts. It's clear to me that there are NO white hats. Nobody is a poor, put-upon innocent. [red]ed note: Hmmmm must have missed my posts...[/red]

And I say this as somebody who has read these posts as a completely disinterested outsider.

I know how frustrated El Jefe Jackson is at having to constantly deal with personalities in the Thai section - the following words to the wise ought to be sufficient: Clean up your acts, get back on topic, stop the flaming, stop the reaction to the flames somebody makes about you. OR you'll be throttled back to "Regular Member" status or even have your accounts cancelled altogether. [red]ed note: That sounds like a threat, but it was not written in blue[/red]

-Uncle Otto[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by [b]Joe Zop[/b] 01-07-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand [b]emphasis mine[/b]
Uncle Otto, I agree that there's a lot of carping that goes on in this section, and while I occasionally contribute to it and am thereby far from blameless, most folks will agree I spend far more time trying to tamp it out and make people play nice. (Half the spats I end up in come from that, it seems.) Thailand is far from the only area where that happens and that's for certain, but it's certainly one of the more active areas, which means more carping. I agree this drives good posters away, which was what I said earlier, and was also precisely the point you said you didn't care about! I do cry over the loss of good posters, as it means there's information I'm not going to receive.

I have never treated Jackson with anything but the utmost respect, and would happily share a bottle of wine with him. I've read your reports in other areas and have appreciated them, though they are not in places I'm planning on visiting for the most part. [b]But in the same way you found it annoying to have someone from this section griping in other sections, it feels the same way to have someone come in out of the blue, call names, and lecture. You may have the best intentions, but it simply comes off as high and mighty when you come in and refer to everyone as children and crybabies, which means your point dissipates. Why should anyone give credence to someone who comes in, adopts an imperial tone, and does basically the same thing he complains about?[/b][/quote]

[red]This bears repeating, with 1475 posts currently Joe Zop is one of the MOST SENIOR and MOST RESPECTED members on all of WSG, IMHO: [b]...it feels the same way to have someone come in out of the blue, call names, and lecture. You may have the best intentions, but it simply comes off as high and mighty when you come in and refer to everyone as children and crybabies, which means your point dissipates. Why should anyone give credence to someone who comes in, adopts an imperial tone, and does basically the same thing he complains about?[/b][/red]

[quote]Originally posted by [b]OttoGraham[/b] 01-07-04 Asia > Thailand > Samus Aran in Thailand
Perhaps because I have the ear of the emperor in a way most of you don't? [red]ed note: Need I say more?[/red][/quote]

[b]Reference letter to the editor: [url]http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=186747#post186747[/url][/b]

LoveLOS -
Did not research the issue in depth, but based the quotes, data and observations presented, I gotta support your conclusions.

You have presented your opinion in a most even handed and, shall I say, professional manner. Should you be banned for that, shame on Jackson.

If Trash has indeed left the board for good - what a serious loss since he provides positive information on the board and backchanneled to. The main purpose for the board. What the fuck is going on?

Jackson has always presented himself as reasonable and fair.
I would be most surprised if resultant action is negative toward you.

If non action is his decision on the big picture, I would be surprised and disappointed also.

Something just aint right and only Jackson can rectify the situation at this point.

Reminds me of why I left *** years ago - the Big One himself came down on me from his imperial throne in addition to one of his moderators. They were entitled to do so, but the magnitude of the dressing down was not equal to the issue at hand. Although I was not banned, I left. Concurrently, I was given a lifetime membership to another pay board because I stood up for what I believed.

With all the free boards, why pay. WSG has been a breath of fresh air for a long time and I like this board, but should the same imperial attitude dominant, then it is "see ya later".

Hope we stay in touch via backchannel.

clix

[blue]Hi Clix,

No one gets banned for expressing an opinion, even if it's an opinion that is directly in contrast to my own opinion on the same subject.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Bravo, it's about time someone puts that big bully in his place. [b]Message to Otto, you are no better than the rest of us, so stop acting like "king dick".[/b]

One of the major reasons WSG is such an excellent resource is Jackson's even-handed and measured approach, which allows for a range of individual voices and approaches while still making clear where the lines are. I can understand, appreciate and even applaud UncleOtto's desire to act to protect Jackson's interests and workload, but he tends to do so without the grace and restraint Jackson shows, and a member simply assuming unofficial authority by dint of of a personal relationship does nothing but fan the flames and muddy the waters.

There are certainly ways to call for civil discourse in areas without resorting to using the same tactics one complains about and without setting yourself up as being on a different plane from other posters. Doing the latter is simply an indication that you don't believe a straightforward argument for civility will be listened to, which shows a basic lack of respect for other posters and again says you're somehow better than they are. In the absence of Jackson appointing moderators for various sections or some sort of official co-administrator, such admonitions from non-posters in another area almost invariably have the same effect as trolling. It's like someone from another block deciding to come over and spank your noisy kids -- they might deserve it, but it's hardly the neighbor's place to administer such punishment.

[blue]Greetings everyone,

I will formulate a compromise to this discussion in a few days [i]after everyone has had their say and perhaps even calmed down somewhat[/i]. However, at this point I would like to state categorically that I am the only person on the planet with Admin access to the WSG, and thus any editing of any reports that you may observe in the Forum were done by me.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Dear Jackson
I sent you and others a PM about the Otto business as Lovelos had PMed me, Geneeral Stonewall Skinless, for support (!). I had noticed the Virginy spats but had ignored them just as I have been ignoring the entire board.
I am not the person who threatened to pop Otto; I am not a NRA guy. I did promise to slice up a prolific non person lisper if our paths cross in LOS or Lenawee by the see but that is another matter.
As regards you and Mr Otto:
1. You do need firebrigade men. One has to trawl through the entire site to find gems: Belguel, Saint, Looking 4 Lefty (all up to a point, all boring after a while)
2. You did add 43 new sectors, one of which was my suggestion (Photo of the year, which I am pleased to see I have seen mentioned by others). Many of those threads are not being used. Some are being abused. Check out Thailand or Malaysia for examples or read my earlier PMs.
3. Some dudes seem to have more than one personality: not just the split personalities like me who hang out here but dudes/cobbers using more than one account. You need help monitoring shit like that. Perhaos Uncle can help.
4. Most local threads are carried by one or two good posters: Looking for Lefty, Lynntrash etc. They develop their own dynamic and a hands off policy might be best and, like all shit, they attract flies. The Boston thread had a good way that way. It works when the main poster (Lynn, Looking) has a personality. But, as Samas Aran pointed out to the Thai spammers, it is hard to carry (and SA posts are now no good too and Lefty's are deteriorating as well)
5. So, where does this monolog get us?:
a. Divide up the world with your BA bros and tell the board you are doing that. Ask them to monitor big areas and report to you at your weekly AMA meeting/orgy. It is too much for one person to do. This is particularly the case as you insert ever more threads. Each extra thread magnifies the chances for bs. Have a look at the dudes/cobbers posting to each other. Issue a simple imperial edict. "Peasants, subjects and Rev Skinless: I Jackson Caesar hereby decree that........."
b. Organization is the key and you don't have it yet. Organize from the top (or the bottom if BA, like Australia, is at the ass end of the world). And organize from the bottom: let the locals keep their house primarily in order. I am sure the Army of Northern Virginia can do that.
c. You must tighten up. Give the board an organizational pussy tuck.
d. Thailand is, of course, a special case. This is because it attracts so much foreign farang shit. One had to only look at the photo of "tourist animals" Freeler posted or to read the bs some of the losers post. Speaking of which: I would appreciate it if you deleted the entire Traveller-Skinless thread as you promised. This is to keep my posting numbers down. Although, as a man of God/God, I forgive all the morons who disagreed with me, from now on they are all non persons. When I start to post again on Thailand, probably in May, I will remove any post that the non persons comment on. Perhaps Lovelos and friends might care to copy back in old Virginny.
e. One of the keys to the success of this board is the local loyalties. It would be a pity to lose that as the porno pictures of Belguel et al attract more srufers and posters. The emotion of Lovelos is understandable. So too is the over enthusiasm of your uncle. You are trying to cover the entire world: from Nibu and his jungle bunnnies to Saint and his James Bond settings. A tall order that can be solved with some human organization.
f. The nature of this hobby being what it is, a large number of posters are probably odd balls. One has only to think of the words of our own dear and blessed Prokofiev: To ask whether guys here have a problem with sex is like asking in a crackhouse if anyone has a problem with drugs.
g. Bottom line: tighten up but be loose as well. Many of us wil survive being banned or demoted.
h. Otto etc should probably not twist the other's word when replying. It is a cheap trick that belongs with cheap people.

Rev John T Skinless is happy to report he took a doll to see The last Samurai yesterday. Love must be in the air. The cherry blossoms will be here soon. Beautiful, romantic spring time aromas. Almost as good as the whiff one gets in a cheap Thai brothel.

Peace to all the people

about this [b] ottograham [/b] controversy =

where i live [ in rhode island , usa ] we are home to
brown university , arguably the most politically correct campus on earth.

and they have a supposedly joking saying there
about free speech :

" if you don't like what some·one has to say ——
don't let them say it !! "

that appears to be the attitude of some of the posters here about
mr o·g , in their efforts to get him banned

allow me to propose a different standard :

" if you don't like what mr ottograham has to say =
** ignore ** him !! "

that certainly would avoid all this waste of band·width
around here !!

You guys are too serious. My post this time is not about complains, but compliments.

[quote]
This bears repeating, with 1475 posts currently Joe Zop is one of the MOST SENIOR and MOST RESPECTED members on all of WSG, IMHO: ...it feels the same way to have someone come in out of the blue, call names, and lecture. You may have the best intentions, but it simply comes off as high and mighty when you come in and refer to everyone as children and crybabies, which means your point dissipates. Why should anyone give credence to someone who comes in, adopts an imperial tone, and does basically the same thing he complains about?
[/quote]

I bet most people let him off because rarely anyone read to the 3rd sentence, or to the 2nd paragraph if there's one.

Otto, Otto, Otto.

Shame on you for translating my post and calling it a "Quote" from me. None of those words were mine, and the ideas put forth were basically 100% incorrect. In fact, you missed the whole point. Let me quote the salient paragraph:[quote]This time accurately, as LoveLOS wrote it, [b]emphasis mine[/b]:
Otto, you continually tell us that you are working for the betterment of the forum. [b]I believe that you are sincere[/b] in that respect. Unfortunately your 'imperial' [b]attitude[/b], [b]lack of respect[/b] for other seniors on this site (due to your special relationship with the MAN), your apparent need to pontificate, and your lack of understanding of how others feel about the local boards, and finally the [b]feeding of the troll[/b]; has had the [b]opposite effect[/b].
[i]...snip of unrelated thought that should have been put in another paragraph...[/i]
[b]We have no problems with adhering to Jackson's rules[/b]; but until HE tells US, publicly, that you are co-admin, we do have a problem [b]submitting to your lecturing[/b].[/quote]

I have held out the olive branch to you in every post, and do so again here - please stop snipeing back at me! You will note that Jackson did not deem my previous posts in NoVA an attack, as none were edited. Therefore I argue that you are attempting to cloud the issue with regard to my taking offense at your efforts to aid Jackson in his policies. That is not the issue here.

I regret that you have chosen to remain uncivil toward your fellow members, for that is the very compaint I am filing. Your tactics have resulted in MORE, not less strife on the boards you choose to visit, and that is the concern.

As far as researching your posting history, I remind you it is a tool that all senior members should use when trying to assess the personality and history of another member. We use it for every newbie whom we are trying to decide to send information to. Jackson presumably uses it to determine senior status and to settle disputes. I used it because your attitude bothered me. As indicated, I was going to let the issue drop in NoVA, but when I saw the Deja vu in the Thailand forum, I realized that, IMHO, your actions were unbecoming the gentleman you project in most of the reports. The way I was raised, is that when you have a problem with someone, you air your feelings, discuss the matter, and hopefully you can come to a peaceful resolution with that person.

My last comment is that I regret that my comments may have caused another party to threaten you with bodily harm. Rest assured that was not my intention, and be doubly sure that I am not the party who made the threat. I urge the party that made that threat, if the threat was more than hearsay, reconsiders his gut reactions and calmly states his concerns in this debate.

Again, I am hoping for a peaceful solution to this issue and regret your attitude at the last post was so hostile. Please re-read and take to heart my above comments and you may find our differences are not so great.

Peace be with you.
LoveLOS

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Jackson,
I apologize I felt I had to open a wound in this community, but as I implied, a wound needs to get air to heal. I hope this discussion will provide that.

Thank you for clarifying that you are the party that edited the posts. I hearby retract my comments regarding Otto acting outside your knowledge.

And again, for the record, We here in NoVA / DC have no problem following your rules.

I reiterate that I am not asking you to ban either myself or Otto, as he again misread. By "muzzeling Otto" I really meant that you ask him, as you have done in other cases, not to pop in from out of the blue to a board he does not regularly post to and start playing tough cop. If he does enter a discussion, please implore him not to feed the troll. My aim here is the same as yours, to REDUCE, not escalate, the rhetoric. I understand he is your friend and it is difficult to tell a friend when he is out of line. As a businessman myself, I have been faced with that challenge and it is unpleasant. You also know it is part of being the boss, so I know you will follow your concience.

As an alternative, I might suggest that you do as Skinless suggests and give your trusted friends, including Otto, a special status where they can act as moderator in certain areas to reduce your workload. I personally would not have had any problem with Otto's "imperial tone" if he had co-admin beneath his screen name. If you choose this solution, may I humbly ask that a party less openly hostile to myself and others in this area be given operational control of the boards here, for the sake and health of those local boards.

Respectfully,
LoveLOS

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To all,

I hope I do not have to add another comment to this section and that all parties will calm down and be civil. I do trust Jackson will arrive at an intellegent and well thought out solution to my little tantrum, which is exactly why I felt confident in offering my existence here at WSG as sacrafice to the resolution of this matter.

I ask you in your posts here to try not to flame Otto or myself. If you agree or disagree with either of us, try to phrase it in a manner which is civil and that will be considered more deeply by our moderator, whose authority both of us totally respect.

LoveLOS

[quote][b]originally posted by tallnhandsome[/b]
you guys are too serious. my post this time is not about complains, but compliments.

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this bears repeating, with 1475 posts currently joe zop is one of the most senior and most respected members on all of wsg, imho: ...it feels the same way to have someone come in out of the blue, call names, and lecture. you may have the best intentions, but it simply comes off as high and mighty when you come in and refer to everyone as children and crybabies, which means your point dissipates. why should anyone give credence to someone who comes in, adopts an imperial tone, and does basically the same thing he complains about?

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i bet most people let him off because rarely anyone read to the 3rd sentence, or to the 2nd paragraph if there's one.
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while we're on the whole banning topic, can we boot this [blue][deleted by admin][/blue] as well? better yet, why don't we round him up and go all "passion of the christ" on him.

i know that sounds like a personal attack, and, well, it is. but, the guy has very little knowledge, makes up stories, is a complete troll (as defined by lovelos) and is probably **** to boot. his posts are full of grammatical errors to the point that many are incomprehensible. when they are understandable, they are either silly fabrications or flames.

please, muzzle this [blue][deleted by admin][/blue].

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]this report was edited in accordance with the wsg forum's [u]zero tolerance[/u] policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another forum member or the forum membership in general.[/blue][/size]

I have in the past just ignored or read over the stuff posted by Otto. I will have to say that I was pissed by his spamming us all with his personal request. If I wanted to donate, I would have, but would not from the spamming by him. LOVLOS has been a good poster, and Otto was out of line. I guess I will now be the reciepient of his insults now. I would not have responded but with his attack on LovLos, I just had to. If I am banned also, so be it, I shall live for another day, but hope not with any more spamming. I will not respond to any attacks from Otto nor others. If I do get attacked, I will just consider the source and ignore. This is a great forum and I enjoy it greatly and plan to continue, and I hope LovLos will still be around also. PWhipped

what i find great about this board is that everyone (from a 0 poster to a 1000 poster) has a voice. let's keep it that way to the best of our abilities. the only one that we can 100% control is ourselves.

this board is jackson's creation for men who want information on play-for-pay (and then some) - men like us. quite a community has grown from this, and, with such a community, it is inevitable to get a significant share of haters and conflicts. if you have a problem with somebody, you will fight at your own risk (ie. even enough to get your "skull capped off"); it's the risk you take, and ottograham is well aware of it. otto's a big boy, and he can take care of himself; he also has the right to express free speech.

if you don't like somebody, as already mentioned, you should simply ignore them. we're all adults here, and we may as well act like them. i cannot speak for jackson, but - unlike many others - i postulate that he could care less about having "power" on this board. he, like the average poster here, simply wants good information on meeting pfp women and to have some entertainment and education along with it. there's no need to run around feeling like a "more senior" member than other and taunting it. moreover, if someone else flaunts it, let them be; it's a free world (just as much as we should all be free to have pfp sex with whomever we want - without le on our tail).

so, what should you do? rather than arguing and pointing fingers, relax and enjoy this forum. moreover, please continue to contribute. if someone attacks you, try not to take it personally. this is an internet forum with a great variety of different personalities. thus, it is obvious that we won't have everyone agreeing with each other. if you can control yourself, just ignore the flamers and fighters. however, if you want to be a "flamer/fighter" yourself, hopefully the majority of others will simply ignore you; within certain bounds, you have the right to do what you desire.

now, let's forget this finger-pointing and enjoy something that we can all agree with: *beautiful ladies from all parts of the world*! from the lurker to the most senior members -and- from the most polite to the most beligerant members, i enjoy all posts to varied degrees.

make life easy for yourself and simply enjoy it, as well. life's too short.

[blue]thank you![/blue]

Hi again PNG, since you say it's a personal attack, I have to reply to your groundless attack. 'Little' is relatively speaking and I'm a humble personal. What story did I make up? What did I fabricate?

JACKSON: I would like to complain about myself. I am not getting laid enough. I also have DICKEY-DOO disease... my belly hangs out further than my DICKEY-DOO.

LoveLOS,

You are out of line, and, to put it simply, just plain wrong. From your last post, it looks like you are just now beginning to realize that.

The idea that Jackson would play favorites among WSG members and hand out ADMIN rights is too ludicrous to even be contemplated. And yet, here you are, hurling threats and insults at OttoGraham for just that. Sounds as if YOU should be apologizing to HIM.

It could very well be that the BA members feel themselves to be just a little closer to heaven than most, given their physical proximity to the Holy See. But the idea that Uncle Otto, or anyone else, would actually consider themselves to be a pretender to the throne just because they broke bread with Jackson a few times is, also, laughable.

I didn't have to research Otto's posts, since I've already read most of them. I think it's clear to a reasonable person that, in addition to being a valuable contributor, he is sincerely concerned with the welfare of the WSG. He is always among the first to welcome new members and to encourage their participation, and he has always been more than generous with his time and advice. Perhaps he is a little too vigorous at times, but, if so, he errs on the side of the good. Personally, I have never understood why anyone would complain about his broadcast for charitable contributions.

Yes, he has expensive tastes; in women, food and drink. And he likes to talk about it. So what? I would not condemn him for that any more than I would condemn Dickhead for pinching pennies (or pesos). They both have their own style and valuable information to impart.

So, it seems that your complaints are totally specious, without any value or merit. You should think twice before you start up a firestorm. You may be the one who gets burned.

Guillermo

Very eloquently stated, Left Fielder, and right on-target.

Jackson, you should make this guy a Senior Member - he's got the right attitude.

- Atlanta Monger

Otto, no one would begrudge you an opinion. The resenment that many here feel, is that you sometimes come across as having a "superior" attitude.

In any case, let's all move on. For the sake of poor Jackson who's probably losing all his hair [red](if he isn't already bald).[/red] Just remember, it takes a bigger man to walk away.

i was under the impression that this problem (nova/dc board)would have resolved itself by now but i see i was wrong.

the novs/dc/bmore board(s) have always prided ourselves on having a self sufficent (jackson you are the man and i mean no disrespect to you in any way!) and informative board. along comes a senior member, (otto) who to my knowledge is not and has not been a frequent poster to any of the above mentioned boards, who comes in like the new sheriff in town. the message (as it was perceived) was i'm buddies with jackson and there is nothing you can do about me. usually when someone makes errors in these threads one or several of the senior members will attempt to lightly correct the problem either through a general posting for all to read or a pm. in this case otto appeared to relish in stirring things up. stronger worded postings followed ( i admit i posted a very strongly worded reply that probably should have been thought out better) which seemed to be reported to jackson with astonishing speed. pm's containing what i will call whining and veiled threats from otto were delivered to those who chose to speak out aginst him. otto states "*i am not going to apologize for encouraging members to follow jackson's no-flame, no-attack rule. *i am not going to apologize for referring your posts or anybody else's posts for editing due to your inability to keep from attacking other members (including me, it now seems)." to me it appears that you are willing to dish it out but not take it in. in my opinion,this clouds your judgement . in several of your postings you degrade the rest of us by your attitude and choice of words. no one has referred to me as a boy in a long time. i served my country proudly in the military and am a veteran of two wars. if i have a problem with someone i sure don't run to mommy (jackson in this case) to tell on them.

the effects of all of this are now very evident. posts in these threads seem to be edited quickly. posts are being deemed as spam are removed and several senior members of these threads ( sorry guillermo you don't count here because as with otto, you aren't a frquent poster to these threads) have stopped posting in protest. these members have been extremely valuable posters for years and the knowledge they have passed on is great. i challenge anyone to review posts from lovelos or trashman as examples. even the corrections (spankings) they have delivered are usually done so with tact and lightness. if this problem isn't addressed quickly then i believe the loss of these valuable members is soon to be a reality.

i am the first one to say that otto has the right to post his opinions. my greatest concern is that his postings have brought a festering sore to the board. yes i agree with sainter that the biggest problem is his attitude. otto does appear to be able to get away with things that most members don't. case in point is his spamming. how jackson defines spamming is still a mystery to me. how a posting i sent out could be labeled as spamming but otto's aren't leaves me scratching my full head of hair. again jackson no disrespect. i believe you do a remarkable job with this board.

i follow suite with trashman and lovelos in offering the olive branch to otto. i do so only with the understanding that your posting need to change. if you can see past your better then you and hostile attitude you will see we are all pretty much the same. i do not believe in ignoring a problem because i have learned in my life that ignoring a problem only makes it worse.
in closing i would like to say that i do believe jackson does a great job of keeping a an even hand on this board. i look forward to reading his solution to this mess. several members have posted some very good thoughts here. others seem to posted where they should have thought before typing. i have had that same problem as i stated above.

Jackson,

I have been reading this thread and wanted to add my two cents worth. First, I want it noted for the record that I consider LoveLOS to be a friend and wish to defend him as much as possible. At the same time, I want it clear that I mean no disrespect to Otto whatsoever. In fact, I do respect Otto and his voluminous contributions to this forum. Therein lies my dilema. I want to support my friend without casting dispersion on Otto, while I call it as I see it. So, here is my attempt.

I think that they both have very valid points. I learned the hard way that flame wars did not add any positive contribution to this site, and as you so eloquently pointed out, is not the purpose of this site. So, this must all come to an end. But, I don't want to see it end where we loose a couple of well respected members because of this. Some sort of compromise must be made.

I do not think that Otto has your password or has Admin access to this site. I believe that you, Jackson, edit personal attacks out of any posts that comes to your attention. I know this from personal history. I myself got into a flame war and attacked a fellow member on the board. When I came back to see the response, I noticed that my original post had been edited and any personal attack that I had launched on a fellow member had been deleted or changed. At first I was upset, but later realized that you were just protecting the integrity of this site. If things just degrade into personal attacks, we all loose. So, I have to defend Jackson on this one LoveLOS, I believe he is the one that edited any personal attack out of your posts.

Now, don't get me wrong, I totally agree with LL and Trashman in flaming a newbie about RTFF and asking stupid questions. And, I further agree that you try to encourage the offending party to mend their ways and post only useful information, or to only ask questions that have not been answered recently. Hopefully, the newbie learns the error of their ways and then goes on to be a great contributor to the forum. I further agree that if someone is posting bullshit information then it is our duty to point that out as well. This is where my opinion differs slightly from LL's. He said that no one looks at the number of posts that a member has made, and I disagree totally. I think the number of their posts plays a very big part in how you view the member. Now, when I look at guys like LL, Trashman, PWhipped and even Otto, I see that they have contributed several hundred posts each and I tend to give them more respect out of the sheer volume of their contributions. No, I don't look at the specific numbers, but if someone has posted more than 200 times on this forum, you tend to really take notice of what they say. When I look at a newbie that has 2 or 3 posts that wants to start a flame or cause problems, then I think it is a senior members responsiblity to try to inform and educate the newbie as to how we operate around here.

This is where I agree with Otto, I don't have a problem with him visiting other areas and giving his opinion on matters. In fact, I encourage it. If a senior member like Otto weighs in on a subject, it can only improve the situation. However, I think he should respect the senior members that post on that particular board regularly and not flame them as well. And, I don't think he should drop your name as if he is speaking for you. He should state his opinion and maybe even allude to your stated opinions on matters, but he should not speak for you.

Now, as to Otto being creeped out by being stalked! I think he was trying to be humorous, but it is very easy to do a forum search to find any information that you are looking for. And, I have to say that LL did an admirable job doing research and posting all that he found to back up his point. So, now we get to the point of asking the question, How the hell do we fix all this?

IMHO, I think both parties, Otto and LoveLOS should be made to write formal apologies to the other. I don't give a shit about the semantics of who started what and when. I think at this point they have both engaged in bad behavior and should have to apologize for it. (Sorry LoveLOS, just my opinion) And, as senior members, we should support each other whenever possible, especially if it is on your own home turf. So, I would expect Otto to show more respect to people on local boards whenever he decides to chime in. As, I would expect anyone else to show him respect on his home turf or boards as the case may be.

I think they should apologize to each other and agree to not attack the other again. And, I don't think that anyone should ever speak for you Jackson, or to even state that they are speaking for you. That way we can put all this shit behind us and go looking for some women. After all, that's what we come here for in the first place.

Now, I hope that LL and Otto are not upset with me for my opinion. After all, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one! lol. But, I felt it important to defend LoveLOS out of my respect for him and the friendship that we have, even though I do not agree with everything that he said. I also did not want to anger Uncle Otto because of the respect that I have for him.

Thanks,
Box

Jackson,

Let me start out by saying that this entire discussion is based on what appears to be a clash of personalities, and it has nothing to do with either your rules for the board, or what seems to be perceived as some lack of respect for you or your administration.

In fact, I have gone on record several times in the past praising your efforts and commending the time and money you put into running what I, and many others, consider a crucial service.

Those of us who consider the DC/NOVA boards to be are "home" are proud of the fact that we contribute to what we see as among the most vibrant and healthy areas of WSG. And, we also see that this area has run well, and has been almost entirely self regulating and free of friction.

What seems to have raised the ire of many members is that someone who had made no noticible contributions to the local boards suddenly appeared to have taken on the self-appointed job as our local moderator. And to escalate the tension his relationship with you was frequently mentioned as his reason for his new position.

Some may say we did not react well. In fact, I'll freely admit that I made an intemperate posting that you quickly edited. I deserved that. I regret that I responded to a situation with words that were uncalled for. And perhaps that intempeate posting could be used to argue that we need some kind of a moderator here in DC/NOVA. That, of course, is your call.

I have no problem with the fact that every member of the board has the right to express his opinions. And while I have a special kinship with Trashman and LoveLOS because we share the same hunting grounds, I fully support OttoGraham's right to share his opinions with us as well.

But I would hope, and most respectfully request, that if you see some special need to appoint a moderator for our area of the board, that it not be a principal in this little conflict.

Hopefully, we all have a common intention, and that is to keep this board as the premier source of information on our hobby in the world. My "senior" status is really because of the silver in my hair and the miles under my tail. I cannot tell you how many years were wasted in looking for love in all the wrong places before the board came along. What we have here, thanks to your unstinting efforts, is a remarkable tool that makes the pursuit of our hobby far easier than it was in the old days.

I trust that the current spat will soon be forgotten as tempers cool and calm returns. Frankly, I don't see a major problem here and would follow the old addage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But, if in your opinion some remedial action is required, I trust you to find the correct course.

Randy

Jackson "spams"
1. As this is Jackson's board, we all have to expect solicitations for the BA charity. To me, it is ok if Otto spams on that. My trawling shows that Freeler and some others complained about it but I figure those reminders are a cheap price to pay and I ma sure the army of Northenr Virginia do not have a problem with occasional shots like that. I do not contribute for my own reasons, most of which concern personal security. I am a cheap Charlie in many, but not all ways. I do like to help the poor, mostly direct, to young and not so young women with loose morals and looser teeth (toothless old women give the best bjs: take it from one who know;) As regards the BA charity, I am not giving out my credit card details to anyone here, Jackson and Paypal included. Nor, this being Japan, will I mail a check!
2. The Globo trotto ads, complete with Jackson's warning, are also a small price to pay. I doubt that Globo gets rich from it and at least one dude, Robux, enjoyed the service and "shared the love" with us all. Again, a small price.

Jackson"flames"
1. I thought PNG's flame of TNG was a classic and I was very saddened to see it edited. I particularly love the piece about doing a "Passion of the Christ" on TNG. That is a new way of expressing something more earthy than personal love and I like it. Well done PNG. I forgive you your fondness for young skanks; you are a good little boy at heart.
2. Jackson, please allow witty flames to stand if the wit is more than the shit. On this matter, I feel you wrongly censored the poets on the Mongolian board. I don't think they were flaming; rather I think they were just delving into Ulaan Bator's dark side. I was annoyed with some asshole saying I do low quality flaming. There ain't nothin' low quality about Rev John Tits Skinless.


Boxcc:
1. So you are a veteran of two wars? Big ones or small ones?
2. The real question is did you survive the school playground? If not, maybe this board wilkl be good training:)

Nibu Raphael:
1. You are the wisest man on the entire site (admittedly there is not a lot of competition).
2. Give my regards to Big Titted Sandra and all the other jungle bunnies. Do one for the Gipper:)
3. You might be interested to know that JTS has a bunch of big titted Thai skanks lined up for next month. "Climb every mountain"

[b]My Two Cents[/b]
I am posting out of respect for LOVELOS, flinging mud only guarantees that you get muddy so I try to avoid any internecine brawls.

I have only two problems with the Virginia>NorthernVirginia board.
1) Aint nearly enough action. There has got to be some latina SWs out there serving the transient labor market but no one seems to post it.

2) OttoGraham. The NoVa board does a great job of policing itself and we do not need some self-appointed champion showing up, causing trouble and telling us how to handle ourselves. Otto, if you want to become a member of the local community - someone we will pay attention to - then do some mongering around here and give some advice. Otherwise take (what many people see as) your superior attitude elsewhere and let us deal with own local issues and idiots. The fact that we are wasting so much effort on YOU proves that this isnt about your cleaning up a board that needs your help. It is all about YOU and to be perfectly honest I do not care how many ho's you have turned into love slaves due to the magnificence of your love making, what your preferred chardonnay is or whether you prefer straight or clarified butter with your lobster (personnally I am an advocate of a hint of rice vinegar but that is an acquired taste and...do you care?). I do care that you have antagonized a number of very respected members on our board and contributed nothing.

UncleOtto, you seem like a very bright guy, and I've thoroughly enjoyed most of your reports in various areas. So I confess I'm baffled as to why you don't seem to recognize that most folks here are not objecting to [i]what[/i] you did, but [i]how[/i] you did it, i.e. acting as unofficial and unappointed militia, with that same degree of military swagger. Given that your chief complaint against members is also one of methodology (the impermissibility of attacks on other members) this simply seems very strange.

Or is it that you [i]are[/i] very clear on this point, and just don't care? Because if so that clarifies things considerably.

No one has a problem with how Jackson polices the board -- you're just setting up and knocking down a straw man with that statement -- the paranoia over editing and admin passwords aside, which has been clearly laid to rest.

(As an aside to all, is it simply this time of year that gets everyone so testy? Sure seems like a recurrent pattern. I think everyone just needs to go get some and chill a bit.)

huh? yet again, you miss my point -- not that you're referring anything to the admin, which many of us have done, or that he's edited things, which he almost invariably does quite deftly, but [i]that your tone in lecturing people is what has pissed them off,[/i] somehow that specific subject is the thing you continuously ignore or obfurep001e.

i agree that it would have been better had lovelos simply let this whole stupid thing die, as, for example, i did in the thailand section despite the fact that i felt you were being a bit of a self-righteous pain. (big deal -- so am i, far too often.) i had my say at the time, and that was that, and that's what should have happened here. and in reading through the whole virginia section i personally thought your comments were fairly mild in any event.

but using the forum's search function is hardly cyberstalking any more than is you visiting new sections and whapping at members there. lovelos (who's not my "friend" as i don't know him and have at most had an exchange or two with him on this board, if that -- i only got brought into this because he quoted one of my old posts) specifically denied making such a reprehensible threat and said he regretted that someone did. given that he's admitted being mistaken about the whole password thing and apologized for that, i see no reason not to take him at his word on this as well -- his posts in this thread have always been civil, and the admin has seen fit to edit none of them. and as i recall, lovelos did not in fact say he knew his post was going cause offense; he apologized in advance for stirring up a hornet's nest.

you're rightfully offended that someone made a stupid and threatening comment -- why is it so hard to grasp that the tone and language of some of your posts lecturing people about how to behave could have had the same effect?

Just trying to clarify the misconceptions and errors. I realize i'm long-winded, but please read carefully before posting. My detractors, including Otto, are often making arguments that have nothing to do with my complaint.

1. I thought Jackson and I made it very clear that the issue of the hacked password is a moot point. Jackson verified he mad the edits and I humbly retracted my concerns. Let's all please drop that issue.

2. Otto has repeatedly brought up accusations of a threat to his person, which he has not subsantiated. Now he has simply accused me of this. That, gentlemen, is a personal attack. I have never threatened him and have repeatedly tried to tone his rhetoric down, to no avail.

3. Which is it, hysterical or premeditatied? I ask you all to read my comments both before I posted my complaints (in NoVA) and after. I have tried to be even handed and non-inflamatory, although my intent has obviously been misread. :( I admit I posted the complaint itself in a manner designed to get Jackson's attention, but not after a lot of PMs from most of the guys on the (LOCAL) board, not one of which was complimentary. I feel now that I must add not one of which was a threat to his person. I opened this discussion not because he attacked me, but because he attacked all of my friends.

4. This issue is not with Jackson or following his rules. Only one of my posts has ever been edited by the admin, and I learned from that. I have had nothing edited since the zero tolerance policy went into effect, and I honestly don't have any clue when that occurred. Otto, your claims I am a serial flamer are unfounded, according you Jackson's interpretation of his rules (as you stated, "in his good judgement").

5. Otto, your contributions to WSG forum are fabulous. Your "on-topic" posts and reports are some of the best I have ever read. I have no problem with you when you are talking about banging chicas or your food/wine/hotel posts. When a member (e.g. Fool4FishNets) refers to any lack of contributions to THIS board, he is referring to the NoVA /DC area local board.

6. Most of the parties supporting me understand where I am coming from. It is the STYLE, not the CONTENT of Otto's POLICING posts and PMs that I am objecting to. Otto and his suporters seems to be willfully blind to that concept.

7. The NoVa board is now flame free, congrads Otto. It is also devoid of posts because you have pissed off those members who keep it active. I do note Jom Rob is posting, guess we didn't run him off and limit him. Please do not claim credit in helping make him feel welcome as you did not bother being kind to the guy. Remember that incident is the basis of my complaint, you AGGREVATED the flaming on the board.

In a nutshell, my complaint is that you FLAME BAIT and then BASH the party that TAKES the BAIT. Is that too hard to understand?

6. Let me make it clear to all that I am not above admitting a mistake in judgement. This is not a change in my stance as I believe firmly that I have not made a mistake in judgement; and because I have always stated my respect for Jackson who I turned to to officiate this diagareement. Thus, if, in Jackson's opinion I am totally out of line, makes clear to my why he has come to this opinion using his usual even handedness and logic, and asks for my apology in this matter; I will back down. I hope Otto can say the same thing if called upon to do so.

7. If you think I pay $160 to an ugly mamasan for a HJ, please research my posts a little more in depth :D, I promise I wont get creeped out... <LOL>

LoveLOS

Otto, I have extended an olive branch to you now on several occaisons, including an invite to bury the hatchet over a beer.

Your response was to initially ignore me, followed by an accusatory message, and now the zinger, snipe, flame, whatever you choose to call it at the bottom of your post to LoveLOS.

I think that you are a hypocrite. Your post referencing me in derogatory terms, again accusatory, and a rather rude decline of an open invitation to make peace is just the kind of thing that you have been whining about on this board that others are doing.

I strongly suggest that you keep your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] mouth shut about me. You want to blast back flames at LoveLOS or anybody else, that's your business, but to not drag me into it. Am I making myself crystal clear?

And to set the record straight, I invited you out, you answered with a yes, I asked when and where and then you [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] out. That's NOT desperation. Quite to the contrary, your answers seem born of desperation.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the WSG Forum's [u]Zero Tolerance[/u] policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.[/blue][/size]

I enjoy a good fight as much as anyone, but this thread has gotten to the point that ALL the parties are in violation of the rules. Perhaps Jackson would do the honor of putting a kill date for messages similar to last months Thailand discussions.

I’ve sat back and watched this whole mess ramify over the last X days to my ever increasing exasperation and dismay. My hope is that this whole mess just STOPS, and I thank Jackson for relocating it here from the Northern Virginia board. I offer these comments, observations and opinions for your thoughts and consideration.

1. [b]Gasoline doesn’t extinguish flames.[/b] While this appears to be a fight between Otto and the rest of the members that have contributed here, most all of the rest have calmed their provocations down considerably while Otto hasn’t. My suggestion to Otto is that he also calm down. My suggestion to everyone is that this become a debate about behavior and not a fight between people. I’m not the first to bring this up, but it begs to be repeated.

2. [b]When you ride in on a high horse, you have farther to fall.[/b] My first thoughts when Otto began posting on the NOVA board was “there’s a new sheriff in town.” Now, nobody likes a hard-assing cop (or an officer of the court, Guillermo) abusing their unestablished authority or making specious arguments -- especially mongers, and that’s the way Otto has presented himself to us locals. We’re basically scofflaws at heart, so I’m not surprised at the local reaction.

3. [b]This is Jackson’s board, but is Otto Jackson’s proxy?[/b] Establishing this will go a long way toward calming the restless natives. Jackson? WSG isn’t a democracy, it’s a benevolent dictatorship, and Jackson is privileged to dispense special dispensation to any and all of his friends, with or without preamble. My only comment is that here in Northern Virginia, which is essentially Washington, DC Metro, we’re used to a rather high quality of diplomacy, which is considered one of the local arts, and exports. Words are the tools of our trade. It’s not always pretty, as evidenced in what might be misconstrued as personal attacks by outsiders. This is the local product, not the export product.

4. [b]Messing with a man’s art is the surest way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off, and his friends.[/b] TrashMan is the undisputed Don of Washington/NOVA/Baltimore, and his art, besides posting on his many P4P experiences, is his good-natured trash talking, humility and worldview. LoveLOS is his consigliere. Trash’s widely held high level of esteem cannot be fully understood without a detailed study of his canon of posts in their original context. I have personally been on the receiving end of TrashMan’s missives, and can honestly say it was an honor just to have come up on his radar. What’s important to note is that TrashMan’s derogatory (yes, derogatory) comments are instructive, humorous and entertaining [u]in the local custom[/u]. When he’s wrong, he apologizes fast, as is the local custom. Otto’s behavior was so jarring because he presented himself as an outside colonizing influence. Few, if any, of those of us on the receiving end of Trash's posts have been scared off from subsequently posting, usually issue a mia culpa, and our posts become better for Trash’s instruction. Please note: [u]We have no local flame wars except for small dustups about the quality of posts,[/u] with the exception of this latest more personal situation. The local boards under TrashMan’s purview are better for his participation. As TrashMan represents the heart and soul of our local boards, [red]it is my considered opinion that this whole firestorm was catalyzed by those local men who respect TrashMan and came to his defense. [/red]

5. [b]Too much paranoia.[/b] Otto, nobody is going to put a cap in your skull. That type of talk, which is never posted on the boards except by you, can also be considered local custom. Believe me when I tell you this. We have such a large former and current military and spook population in this region that only those unfamiliar with this subculture would be shocked. For example, on a recent evening, sitting over dinner with my local charitable service organization, I counted well over 60% of the men I was dining with who had personally killed numerous people in the service of their country. No, LL and Trash are not members of my club. :) So go enjoy your beer with TrashMan and bury the fucking hatchet already.

6. [b]Is peace the goal, or adherence to policy?[/b] The NOVA board has been self-policing, productive and very popular. This firestorm has brought NOVA to a halt for all practical purposes. My question to you, honorable Jackson: If peace is the goal (and we have been peaceful in NOVA), is creating a forum-wide policy to solve a Thailand-specific problem the best possible solution if the unintended consequences of the cure shut down entire boards? Is the letter or the spirit more important? I believe we in NOVA have adhered to the spirit and created a great place to call home.

7. [b]”Can’t we all just get along?”[/b] My posts to attempt to get things going again, and inject a little levity, have utterly failed, and it’s about time we got back to posting about getting laid – or jerked off, which is the norm in NOVA AMPs. As a result of those pissed off not posting, the whole region’s boards have suffered. In this dearth of anything good to read or discuss, even a pic of my dog has gotten almost 600 views! All you warring MF’s can get together and have a drink on me. Let’s get past this and back to posting about pussy.

Well, I shot my wad.

Robux

P.S. Jim Rob, the recipient of the initial dissing by TrashMan and LoveLOS that provoked Otto’s scolding, is actively and productively contributing posts, so what the fuck is this flame war really about Otto?

The WHOLE Argument here is =

Do YOU *LIKE* What OttoGraham has to say ??

Or = Don't You ??

IF You DO NOT LIKE what he has to say =

** IGNORE HIM !!! **

In my humble opinion = Uncle OTTO is one of the
Wisest and Most Experienced Senior Members Here

I'd rather be Kicked in the Ass by OTTO ,
Than be Knighted by the Queen of England !!

But that's Just me

Robux,

Great post, sir. And not surprising, given your WSG history.

Personally, I'm not taking sides in this battle, short of hoping that it all ends peacefully, and soon.

I do tend to completely ignore most of OttoGraham's offerings as a bit too high-handed and holier-than-thou for my tastes, and typically look forward to reading posts by LoveLOS and TrashMan as they tend towards the witty, funny, and informative. There are also other posters whom I alternately chose to either ignore or read, however, that's just my take on things; others can do what they wish regarding the reading or ignoring of posts. It's a free forum.

In any case, I'd hate to see ANY of them go, because they ALL provide value to WSG in one form or another. Jackson, please consider this in your evaluation.

My 5 cents, adjusted for inflation.
- Atlanta Monger

Otto, Please sir, I reiterate for the nth time: [b]I absolutely do NOT want you kicked off of WSG[/b]. Never said it, never will.

Your arguement will be more convincing when you get some basic facts straight.
LL

Originally posted by LoveLOS:
[quote]
6. Let me make it clear to all that I am not above admitting a mistake in judgement. [/quote]

Well , We ALL make Mistakes , LLOS !!

And On Behalf of the This Entire Site =

We THANK YOU for being MAN Enough to ADMIT It !!

Sorry, I forgot you don't read my posts. That would help though, because I clarified what I meant in this matter:[quote][i]From my first reply - addressed to Jackson:[/i]
I reiterate that I am not asking you to ban either myself or Otto, as he again misread. By "muzzeling Otto" I really meant that you ask him, as you have done in other cases, not to pop in from out of the blue to a board he does not regularly post to and start playing tough cop. If he does enter a discussion, please implore him not to feed the troll. My aim here is the same as yours, to REDUCE, not escalate, the rhetoric. [/quote]-LL

PZ,
I appreciate your loyalty to Otto, loyalty is a good thing. It is loyalty to my brothers here in VA/DC that caused me to no longer be able to ignore his behavior here.

I had been trying to let your posts go but now I had to clarify since you apparently misread the meaning of my comment ([b]or perhaps you should have quoted the second sentence also instead of selectively quoting me[/b]), let me re-word it:

If it is [b]Jackson's[/b] decree, then yes, I will be man enough to admit error. As you are aware, niether you, Guiellermo, nor Otto has Admin beside your names, which is a root of this discussion: [b]Jackson is the [red]only[/red] authority on WSG[/b]. Everybody else, including me, is just an opinion and you know what they say about opinions. ;)

I am frustrated that so many of my comments have been misread and twisted when I believed I was writing clearly. I ask those commenting to please carefully read all posts before starting a meaningless tangent that has no basis in a post another party makes...

Thanks for your comments.
LL

P.S. Jam Cat, I concur.

Gotta say that this discussion is growing tedious. Jackson, please come down from on high and settle it one way or another.

Either tell us that Otto, Guillermo, PsyberZombie, et al are el capitains, or tell them to lower their volume. I'd prefer the latter, but, please, settle it.

Now, my personal stand on the soapbox:

I don't know LoveLOS, I don't know Trashman and I've never read the Virginny boards. I do know that they've presented arguments, olive branches and requests for fairness and been attacked (without edits), slandered and had their words completely twisted by a group of bullies using the flag of "I'm a friend of Jackson, so watch out!" Is your silence on this issue a tacit approval?

I'd like to note that, while Otto's reference to 'garbage-guy' and several other personal attacks have not been edited, my use of the words 'moron' and 'imbecile' got chopped incredibly fast. I'm not complaining about the edit (though I really do appreciate the reverend's support and forgiveness :)). I'd just like to point out the imbalance.

This is a sad state of things. Losing a local RTFF poster because the local boys flamed him isn't really a losss. Losing senior members who are experts on their local area is another matter.

If people like Otto are allowed to roam unchecked the board [b]will[/b] die a slow death. Here's the thing, when senior members are posting useful info direct to the board, then it is quite correct for someone coming in asking for "any info on..." to get flamed; the usual "Read the posts dumbass" responce should suffice. However, once Otto and Crew successfully bully those senior members into lurkerdom, the quality and quantity of the posts will drop dramatically, and since there is not quality information on the board, the "Can someone back channel me..." requests will become more common and more appropriate. This will result in those who otherwise could give two shits about O&C's style to head off in search of a better pasture. Vicious cycle.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb22.htm

Given their consistent lack of anything remotely resembling an attempt at understanding their opponent's arguments, I doubt if O&C can grasp the subtlety of the reference here, but I have faith in you, Jackson.

I'd like to repeat, either way, please, settle it.

Man -
This whole thing is freaking unreal.

Two fine members of WSG, one I know personaly and the other I know, albeit through backchannel and Posts. Don't know much about the other person other than I responded to his, unbeknownst to me at the time, SPAMMED request to give to WSG charities. If i had know it was spam, I might not have responded, however, I do believe giving to WSG charities is a good thing, but that is not at issue.

First, I have gone out with Trash a couple of times, and if my damn schedule permitted it, I would go out more.
Trash is the consumate monger and willing to share his experience and insights with others. He also delivers his insights/responses in a manner that often confronts/challenges a particular poster to reexamine thier MO and adjunct issues. This, I find to be, most beneficial generally since should the reader take the (often inferred) dressing down like a man and truly think about the point(s) being presented, they will learn some things to protect themselves. Similarly, when other senior WSG members come to town, there is no better resource for hooking them up with than Trash. In addition, Trash, if available, will get out there and show them the ropes of our little City that Reads.....Trash's challenges are for constructive purposes. Posts I see from "Uncle" on this thread are challenges which do not serve to benefit anyone, except, perhaps, the poster.


Now, Trash is the last person who would ever want or ask someone to defend him and I am not here to do so.
I do know him personally and can tell you that if indeed he is pissed and someone is fucking with him, then that person is an fucking up, shall we say, an idiot, short and sweet.

LoveLOS has been nothing but constructive in the OVERALL tone and general content of his posts. His quotes from others posts appear to capture the essential essence of the poster's post, and not the schtuff that can be taking out of context and morphed into another potential interpretation. His contact with me, albeit, limited to non face to face contact, has been extremely positive over the years. Willing to provide information, organize parties, you name it. He has my confidence, for what it is worth.

Uncle man did a very good thing promoting the WSG charity, and I do think he deserves Kudos for that. However, the overall tone and essence of his posts herein are, from my perspective, confrontational, and somewhat vindicitive, only, and not an attempt to better the "community of the board". That I am not impressed with.

We all make mistakes, no question. We all want to respond and ofter initially with knee jerk "fuck you" responses and tailor them down as need be to "hide that feeling as best we can" while in the reactionary pissed off mindset.

Walk away from the whole issue and get a grasp on the large issue here. We are here to assist each other in the adult pursuit of finding those ladies who love to engage in sexual activities we all enjoy and, adjunct to this, avoid legal health entrapments, at least in the States, and health issues, which could diminish our enjoyment of these activities, whether legal or not (and they should be legal between two consenting adults).

Guys, We all have our moments. We can flame to no end or we can get back to business/ the main purpose of this board. Share vital information with true mongers and not LE. Let us quit the sniping.
It would be a shame to have any of the players involved in this mess now depart voluntarily or by decree.

Let us all remember what humility is and admit, to oneself, they fucked up, and move on by taking positive steps toward the bigger purpose. For instance, perhaps the next posts by these gentlemen will be on thier excursion to the Baltimore Block, or to the land of smiles (GOD I GOTTA GO THERE), or Buenos Aries and ignore this whole thread.....Time heals all wounds that are not etched into the core of the person...and none of the stuff here is of that magnitude.

So, please monger on and let go of the resentments being incubated by continuing to contribute negatively/maintain this thread.

Thanks
clix

1. BA: Nibu, the wisest man on the block, has asked for information on BA (Nibu in BA). Can someone help him out?
2. Saint is back in Europe. Has he a private jet?
3. Robux:you seem to belong to an interesting club? Maybe we can settle this like Gangs of New York? That would be nice, if we could all meet somewhere and chop each other up. We could all wear ID tags so we know who to chop.
4. Purple seems like a clever boy. Pity about the moron/imbecile edit as it was a nice turn of phrase. Thank you Purple for the link. The Nazis were, of course, big time into flaming and spamming. Hitler used to get over 500 email flames a day before he sorted the problem out.
5. The cherry blossoms are almost here. Time to unfurl my springtime collection of Okamoto Skinless condoms:(

[quote]Maybe we can settle this like Gangs of New York? That would be nice, if we could all meet somewhere and chop each other up. We could all wear ID tags so we know who to chop.[/quote]

ROFLMAO. I thought it would be at least a couple days before my "Passion..." line got topped.

Skinlesss & PnG,
Anytime you're rummbling with us fucking crazy Virginians, you have to remember: "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight!" Otto - that was a joke, I'm kidding!!! Relax. Smile.

Thank you guys for the levity. I thank all those who have posted reasoned, civil comments in this discussion. One request that keeps being made is that it is time to put a timer on this thread. I concur and request Jackson to number the hours and edit today's flames so those with something constructive to add can weigh in. Just remember, Uncle Otto needs to get to the task of helping Nibu with his assorted questions about BA.

Say goodnight Gracie...

LoveLOS

Lovelos: Depends what you can do with a blade and how and where. Trust me on that one; if not, ask the good women of Thailand who also like to specialize in the blade and feeding naughty farangs' dicks to the ducks (literally, not nice). Also, Nibu does not need any help. That guy's dick will fall off from over use and his nose seems to be able to sniff out the big breasted hookers. Oh, as we are in a goody goody mood, please ask Roboux to empty his PM box as it is full. It is a beautiful day here in Tokyo; man I love this time of year

something else to add to the levity:

i bet there's a sysadmin at calvin or an nsa guy somewhere shitting his pants at the spike in traffic that nazi propaganda speech is getting right now :)

[quote]Losing a local RTFF poster because the local boys flamed him isn't really a losss. Losing senior members who are experts on their local area is another matter.[/quote]
Ah, I know what's all that fuss about without looking at the early posts. There's an English word for it, double standard.

Democracy without sound constituition is mobbing. The Incus sacrifice, the Nazi eliminates ...

Seeing that how some WSG gangs operates, I think some deserve being put into the hall of shame, and that someone in the hall should be resurrected.

As for the quality of posts suffers because losing some 'senior' members, I smell another supermarket picket line forming. All fireworks but nothing to show for at the end. No offence, do we care if we lose Virgina (is it a town?). Take my hero, the wisest man on the block, for example. Does it matter if we take his posts out? A few local wanabe may suffer but most dumb tourist don't. Darwin and Carl say that something will always evolve to take something else's place. Now I'll take RTFF posts anytime for a change.

"Democracy without sound constituition is mobbing. The Incus sacrifice, the Nazi eliminates ..."

TnH: That is a very profound line. I haven't a fucking clue waht it means. Are you into haiku by any chance? Man, I love this time of year. Here is one for you:

One week every year
I forget the news and walk
Cherry blossom paths.

For the more vulgar WSG members: there is nothing in the world to compare to unrobing a Japanese kimono under sweet falling petals. No much good to Nibu who is hooked on acid and big hooters. But Saint should probably try it.

bind my hands to yours
make me submit to your love
dominate my heart

I have deleted everything I have previously written on this thread except for this post.

I have given Jackson my private view on this matter, and await his decision.

I do not have anything more to say on this subject, so if you want my input or reaction to your opinion, too bad, I shall not reply.

For the piece of garbage who has made an explicit threat against my personal safety (and for LoveLOS, who has repeated this threat in the form of a "joke" -- ha, ha, ha, you're really fucking funny) that I view those threats quite seriously.

I have taken and will take appropriate steps in response to this threat.

-Uncle Otto

To those who missed it:

Very interesting indeed that Otto chose to delete his posts in this thread only after Jackson saw fit to edit them.

I guess nobody here is above the law, after all. Good to know.

- Atlanta Monger

Skinless, that is too funny! I agree, this all needs to be ended soon. I myself don't want to 'grip a cold dick'! So, before we have to have more Haiku, let's settle this.

Or, as they say in South Carolina, it's time to shit or get off the pot! I think most people have had their say. I don't want anyone to leave the board. It is too damn entertaining they way it is now! But, some sort of solution has to be forthcoming.

This Mess:

It would be a shame to lose icons such as LoveLOS and the Trashman because one member appears to have the ear of our benefactor, Jackson. And I think this member announcing his "special" relationship to "the man" is absurd. So now in matters of disputes with this particular member, will Jackson excuse himself due to conflict of interest?

This board is an excellent tool for us hobbyist and if anything can bring it down it is infighting. Many seniors have been issuing “spankings” and now are told to cease. I have anticipated reading the spankings the Trashman has issued. The LOS is really my mentor and he is the one that motivated me to begin contributing to the Charlotte board. After he lambasted (and rightfully so) a few newbie’s and lurkers asking for info, I decided to become a contributor and look what has happened to the Charlotte board since my contributions.

Jackson has done a most outstanding job administering this board and I can imagine his headaches, heartaches and frustrations we bring to him. Why not let the senior guys who are known for spanking be grandfathered? We know they do not insult out of malice. It is Trashcan's and LoveLOS's trademark. Hell, WSG without those two guys issuing much needed spankings is like a day without sunshine. When ever I am on the DC or VA boards and I see a newbie ask, “Where can I?”, or “Who is?”, or “Where is ?”, you can feel the board tense up in anticipation as a much needed spanking is coming.

I personally will adhere to the rules and no spankings from me, but for the guys who are known for it and who has it in their WSG persona, let them have at it and leave them alone. My .02.

NC Hunter

Excuse

Skinless,

You got me worried: all this 'I love this time of year' stuff sometimes ends in a jump to oblivion.
BTW I was told when I was three or four years old that a rhyme rhymes, but now your damned haikus got me all confused - but not jumpin'!

Otto,

Quote
"I have deleted everything I have previously written"
Not reading some posts in their entirety can be fun:D!

Jackson,

I too think that this little brush war has about exhausted itself, and probably needs to be brought to a reasonable conclusion.

It seems obvious that it is largely driven by a clash of strong personalities, and that is unfortunate. One seems to feel a need to moralize and correct others for their perceived abuse of the rules of the board. Others seem to feel that they are being abused by someone who has little connection to to a local board, and who seems to be abusing his claimed frendship with "the Boss."

Some of us feel there appears to be a double standard at work here. On February 28th I posted an intemperate, and unfortunate, post pertaining to one of the principals. That post was rightfully edited as being contrary to the policy of this board. I not only regret having made the post, I have have so stated here publicly already. I learned a lesson, and, hopefully, will be a better member of the board in the future.

But let me quote a PM I received that day shortly after I made that regretable post:

"Please share with me the authorization you have to flame away at other on the board (sic) at people such as myself. I must have missed it when it was first posted." It was signed "Uncle Otto."

All I can say about this entirely forgettable incident is that it seems that there is a double standard at work when a member chastises others, and puts members on report, for their alledged short-comings, and at the same time feels free to fire away at those who might disagree with both his tactics and his attitude.

Perhaps it is time to send all parties to a neutral corner with instructions to take a deep breath, count to ten, and not come out until they can play nice together.

For myself, I have placed a chair in a corner and will write "I will behave in a more respectful manner" 500 times, or until my hand cramps up.

Randy

Dear Friends:

Allow me to be the first to sincerely thank our good uncle Otto for stopping this counter-productive line of exchange. Otto, by doing so you are once again demonstrating to all of us that you are a true GENTLEMAN, acting with HONOR. I also thank LoveLOS for having done the same.

I have had the pleasure of knowing our good uncle, as have many other senior members of this board. His exquisite style has been a source of inspiration for me. There is no doubt in my mind as to the sincerity of his motives, and he has my full support. Although I have never had the honor of seeing LoveLOS in person, my few exchanges with him in the past have been nothing but extremely pleasant and positive. His voluminous contributions to the DC/NOVA board speak for themselves, and I personally have been a beneficiary of them.

In the past few days we have been the unfortunate witnesses to an escalating dispute between these two very well respected and valuable members of the board. Both members have undoubtedly contributed immensely and selflessly in the past, and both believed, with conviction, that their point of view was "right". Of course, in an argument both parties feel that they are "right"; this is the very essence of an argument! For this reason, both argued their point of view with vigor. It is, however, profoundly sad to see a mere disagreement escalate into such hostility. I sincerely believe that there are two main reasons why we are where we are today:

1-There are many inherent limitations in this medium of communication. Humor gets misinterpreted, smiles go unnoticed, facial expressions do not convey, and there is no immediate feedback when one begins to get out of line, etc. A friendly argument that could have ended in a few laughs and handshakes (had it taken place in person) can escalate into a civil war like this.

2-The central question of this debate still remains unresolved. [red][b]Jackson: with a few strokes of the keyboard you have the power to put an end to this and go a long way in preventing similar feuds in the future.[/red][/b] You know what the circumstances are: Our good uncle, out of respect for this board and his desire to be helpful to you has been browsing several areas of the board in which he is not a frequent poster. When he sees material that he deems non-conforming to your standards he gives a warning. If the warning goes unanswered then he refers the post to you. Some senior members of the local boards subject to the above have taken offense, mainly due to the fact that they see this as an undue "outside" influence by an unsanctioned person. [b]May I humbly suggest that you make your views on this known soon?[/b] Friendships are becoming strained, armies are being formed, and Otto says he has been threatened with physical harm (although I highly doubt there was any substance to this threat and firmly believe that it did not originate from LoveLOS).

As much as I wanted to comment publicly on this dispute, I simply did not believe that with only 60 or so posts I have adequate seniority to do so. In addition, I DID see both points of view and could see that no one was completely "right". Now that we hopefully are resolving this dispute please join me in thanking both uncle Otto and LoveLOS for putting a stop to it.

Sexplorer

I have been neutral for the most part in this whole thread. I've asked for calm from all parties, as I believe that "discussions" such as this only undermine the WSG as a whole.

A couple of days ago, I put up a request for a "Pissing Contest" forum so that people who want to have it out with each other don't pollute valuable forums. This request was not a jest. I do believe that some people need to blow off a *little* steam from time to time, without blowing off new or old members.

As for the main combatants in this latest joust, I've seen both of their posts and have no axes to grind in either case. I was rather disturbed that it's gone on as long as it has.

You'll imagine my wonder when I opened my PM box this morning to have this in my box from Uncle Otto:

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Having read your posts on this subject and concerning LoveLOS's complaints, perhaps it would be better to suggest we open up a new thread discussing you, your posting habits, and your personal characteristics?

I didn't ask for somebody to dredge up something from two weeks ago, then start off on an attack mode on me, all for the fact that I occasionally insist people follow the rules of the site and refer flames for review.

Because that's what this whole fucking business is about.

But if you think this proposed new subject is really such a good idea, perhaps we should make you the next person we discuss?

end quote
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Let's make this clear, I haven't emailed Otto on anything other than WSG Charities matters. I find this email to be pedantic and insulting. By the way, this email was sent 2 hours after he said, "I'm done posting".

So let's clarify this. Obviously Otto thought I was attacking him by asking for a new forum. (I wasn't, I found both sides needed to calm down, and at least one side did.)

Now that Otto thinks I was attacking him, he threatens to start a flame war with me? While I've always known Otto to have an imperious tone in his messages, I've chalked it up to internet persona and not bad intent.

If Otto removed his posts because they were edited by Jackson, then it seems like it was just a way of hiding the fact. Let's not revise history here.

Now I haven't applied for the job of WSG moderator or forum police or such. I myself have reported a few posts that I thought were spam or inappropriate. I think every member should use the reporting feature with care. Just as it won't endear you to your neighbors for calling the police every time you can hear their music playing.

Just as when I go to Thailand and watch 5 people on a motor scooter and wonder how they don't kill themselves, especially the 2 year old that's in the front and hanging onto the handlebars. I don't call the police and tell them to arrest the driver, however.

Even though all the individual forums are part of the WSG, you do need to understand the local customs. What might be joking in one forum, might be a fist fight on another. Many have forgotten how to behave appropriately, and to treat each other with respect.

I respect both Otto and LoveLOS. I simply ask that they respect each other, and other members.

Oh, and a final thought:

Otto: Imagine being in B.A. at this moment.... You have the option of either heading down to Black, or heading to the Locuteria at the start of the restaurant row to respond to this thread...

LoveLOS: Imagine being in LOS at this moment.... You have the option of gettin your brains @#$*'ed or turning on your laptop and continuing this discussion...

Now, which one of the above would you actually do???? Really????.... I rest my case!

Proof positive that being in the sex prison can take its toll on even the most senior of the mongers!

Jaimito Cartero:

I apologize for writing you a [b]Private[/b] Message when offended by a post of yours.

My mistake.

Next time instead of sending such a complaint privately, in order to avoid the possibility of public nastiness and unpleasantness, I will follow the recent fad. I will instead open up a public thread about how I was offended by your post, and invite other posters to jump all over you as well, about how they might also be offended or not.

Turnabout is fair play, yes?

By the way, I am pretty offended that you would ask me for advice about where in Buenos Aires you can find women for sex who will not be [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. It's been a while since you asked me, but hey, I'm still offended by the thought. But even though I was offended by this, I still cheerfully provided you with the requested information. I won't make that error again. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

Finally, since you ask, I removed all my posts about that [i]other[/i] subject in an attempt to dial back the nastiness on this board (yes, Jackson did edit my use of the word "degenerate" from one of the posts, this is true). But despite this intent to stop the nastiness (at least the nastiness which is not directed at me - [i]that[/i] seems to continue unabated), it seems that you're intent on continuing attacks on me. Congratulations, you've proven that so far as I am concerned, no good deed goes unpunished.

But now we have the new subject to discuss: [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. So I'll confine my comments to this new subject and leave that old one to the history books.

With highest respect for all your efforts on behalf of WSG, Jaimito,

Sincerely
Uncle Otto

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Jackson,

I was not aware of the fact that PMs are for offending fellow members.
Is it now so that one can not offend someone on the board but that one can in a PM?

Go back three days and note, Freeler, that I didn't start this whole business of being "pubicly" offended.

If I have something to say which is less than completely complimentary of another poster, I generally send a PM.

You've now got one yourself.

I get them on occasion too, though almost none from the contributors to this thread who are so concerned with my posting history - they generally were too busy typing up public attacks on me to take the time to send me a PM.

However, I don't post the PMs I get because I recognize that they are [b]Private[/b] Messages.

With certain people, however, I see that I need to be more open with my thoughts. After all, they started all this by being quite open with what they think about me and what they'd like to do to me!

Cheers
Uncle Otto

Otto,
For someone who professes to be solely interested in the good of the board as well as someone who said he was through with discussing this matter, you sure have a helluva lot to say.

Additionally, your two most recent posts here seem to me to be flaming, especially your personal remarks indicating that another member is obese, etc etc.

You still seem to miss the point EVERYONE has been trying to make to you and that is no one seems to have any problem with Jackson making the rules and the results of breaking them; rather the problem people have is your attitude and your unilateral decision to judge what is and is not a flame or an infraction of the rules, taking it upon yourself without authorization to then warn the offender, and then finally to tattle.
That's where people are having issues with you, period. Concentrate in not doing those things and I believe this will all blow away in the wind.
As far as people posting your PM's, hey, that's the chance you take!

Ah, Trashman: his posts are a good subject to discuss. Yes, I want to file a complaint about TrashMan. I'm gravely offended by his posts, all the while having the utmost respect for his outstanding contributions.

He consistently attacks new posters when they post questions. Rather than urging them to read the forum archives, he takes it upon himself to administer rough justice and abuse. Spanking people who he doesn't like. Acting like Lord of D.C. If you have an opinion different from his, expect to get slammed. And to top it off he's a poster desperately trying to get face-to-face time with me for reasons known only to him.

And if you urge him to dial it back a bit, expect to have a friend of his post multiple attack posts against you.

But lo! Urging TrashMan to behave like a gentleman is inflammatory. We must let him post whatever he wants, according to the local custom which he inaugurated, flaming whomever and whenever he wants. After all, he's TrashMan, and I'm just some guy who urges the board to follow Jackson's rules.

I didn't start this thread, TrashMan. Your bud did. But I'll be damned if I am now going to be "muzzled" by anonymous threats to my safety and nasty attack posts which aren't quite so anonymous. But less about me. I've said my piece about myself and have nothing more to say on that subject.

So - let's turn our focus for a while on [b]YOUR[/b] posting history. As mentioned, turnabout is fair play.

-Uncle Otto

Ouuch! So much for the supposed Brotherhood . . .

Peace, Please . . . -P

Ah, TrashMan and his valuable posts.

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=177733#post177733]Here's one from Baltimore![/url]

[quote]Originally posted by Trashman

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Here's another of TrashMan's valuable posts:

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=181729#post181729]From Washington, D.C.[/url]

[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan


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Yes, TrashMan thinks I have a problem for having urged him to stop flaming.

Here's one more example of TrashMan's valuable contributions to this forum:

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=183100#post183100]Here's one from Northern Virginia[/url]

[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan

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Hey, I want to complain about Reverend J.T. Skinless.

His posts make it hard for me to read the rest of the board because I'm doubled over laughing.

Oh! Stop the [Haiku] insanity!!! :D

Sexplorer,

Why seek Jackson's assistance? I think you'd better aim your encouragement on the couple of malcontents who started this nonsense by calling me out publicly.

The point is this: if you intend on flaming Otto, then look to yourself before you do it. While I don't go looking to attack other members, I will not turn the other cheek when subjected to unfair abuse.

What I've done here is respond to those who've chosen to explicitly attack me.

Self-defense is a right inherent to any gentleman. Even Jackson recognizes this.

-Uncle Otto

There I go talking about myself again. And here I had promised to stop that. Sorry, folks.

Just to put this discussion back on the relevant course, I found yet another valuable contribution to the Baltimore board by TrashMan:

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=177990#post177990]Another link to another valuable post from TrashMan[/url]

[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan

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Yes, obviously, I am the one with the problem, encouraging this member and his valuable posts to refrain from attacking others. Yes, my bad, indeed. Maybe if somebody puts a cap in my skull I'll finally get the message.

-Uncle Otto

You guys, COUGH, are sure setting a fine example, HACK, for us "junior members". Kind of like my Dad, WHEEZE, smoking cigs while I was, GAG, growing up.

Scotty Monger

Otto, I think you misunderstood the threat. I've heard a couple of people say that they want to put a cap [b]on[/b] your skull to hide the fact that you've pulled out all your hair over this silly situation :)

BTW, I feel left out that I didn't get a PM from you. Could you take this joke as a personal attack instead so I can join the 'PM'd by Uncle Otto' club?

Man, Otto, you sure make a lot of noise for somebody who posted:

"I do not have anything more to say on this subject, so if you want my input or reaction to your opinion, too bad, I shall not reply."

Ha! Excluding your PM to me telling me that "I could kiss your ass" a mere TWO MINUTES after my post, it took all of 10 hours 7 minutes to start again spewing your high-'n-mighty vile attacks on established and respected members. Eight more posts during the next 4 hours, none with redeeming social (or other) value. Nice self-restraint, dude.

All I did was point out the facts surrounding your post deletions. All you do is flame away when you start facing any serious opposition to your 'argument'. Pretty typical reaction for a bully.

Nobody really needs to call you an ass, you do a great job demonstrating it all by yourself.

So it turns out that this mysterious photo might actually be of you:

[url]http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?s=&postid=150267[/url]


- Atlanta Monger

Otto,

Apparently you either cannot read or are so taken with yourself that you can't see the truth. You are lying here in several posts and you know it. You refuse to see the whole point of this because you are either ignorant or an ass, I really don't know or care which. I have extended peace offerings to you on several occaisons only to be slapped in the face and accused of all sorts of crap.
Then, when you are called out by more than two members, you don't like it and instead of dealing with the issue head on, like most liars, you choose to sidestep the issue and try to throw people off your trail by slinging new bags of bullshit and changing the subject.
It's all over Otto, people know you're a dick and your shit is on the street. Just go away.

ditto

My background:

I started following the WSG over a year ago. I have been looking at the VA board for the last couple of months for an upcoming trip, it's this weekend actually. I will admit that I am a newbie and have not contributed as much to this board as those already in this discussion. Flame me if you want for this, I don't care. I personally have nothing better to do and don't care.

I haven't taken the board personal enough to look at everyones name when reading it, but I do know certain posters when I see them. Before this incident I did not know of Otto, although I did recognize Trashman and LOS.

My View:

Newbies look for alot of information on the board. One would think that the more posts a person has the better the info. Many posts here have being questions already answered, personal interaction that should be sent in a PM, or just saying I was gonna go out today but I couldn't. Post numbers really mean nothing here. But it really pisses me off that someone shows up on almost any board with a random post, while increasing post numbers, and then turns around and uses that number to claim that they are right. I could easily do a search for hotels in every city that has a board and make a post on all of them saying here is a place to take a SW. I could tell every board that PMs are available. I could answer every question with RTFF. I could do all this as a 5 year-old that has never seen action and never left the house. But does this make me right. I guess everyone gets my drift. I could care less how long this goes on. I have decided in MY mind who is right here. I think Trashman just summed up Otto in a nutshell on 3-09. I state the date since I am not a senior member and know it may be a day or two before this is read. My opinion may be a waste of space, but I'm only putting one post up on this matter. I'm not gonna waste more than one post like many others. I've said all I can on the matter. The Jury has spoken.

Thanks for the time,

JD

i am amazed yet once again at what i see here. dear otto for someone who said he was done posting things on this matter (hey just where did that posting go? seems to be gone..) you do still have much to say. now who is checking out who has posted what and at what time in history did they do it? didn't i read something you posted questioning lovelos for doing the same thing? (damn...can't find that posting either....note to self...put lojack on messages so they can be tracked) i went back to re-read your posting (damn....jackson is there a hole in the server because all of otto's old postings seem to be no more..) where you (pardon the paraphrase but since the original is gone i have to work from memory) pretty much called us all cheap sob's for not giving money to jackson.
i guess once again you have shown yourself to be what you are. an old sad man who is bitter and filled with hot air. did you get your ass kicked often in your younger years? did you have many true friends or did you have to buy them?
by removing your posts with increasing speed you only show just how repulsive you find yourself.
once again the olive branch has been extended to you by many of the senior members of the nova/dc boards. you refuse to let this pass yet strike out time and time again. wake up...take your meds....relax..and chill.

"intolerance breeds injustice. injustice invariably leads to rebellion and retaliation, and these will lead to escalation on part of both making reconciliation impossible. it would appear that during times of stress, despair and frustration, people become increasingly irrational."

p.s.
i am in favor of the haiku. it does provide a sense of class here.

Otto,
Deleting your posts is the strongest case you have made for yourself to date. They say those who rewrite history will be the ultimate victors, good strategy. I have little further to say on the original complaint, you are doing a fine job of making my points for me, be sure to keep it up.

As far as the "new" issue brought forth to cloud the "original" issue:
I guess Trashman could also go back and delete any and all of his posts that have ever been edited or deleted by the admin, as you have done. I don't expect that he will do that since he his own man and not particularly concerned if anyone has a problem with that. One reason we respect him, he respects himself.

I had previously assummed that you have only ever had two posts edited, now I have to wonder is you have had many many more edited, but you just deleted them? Now may I suggest you delete the whining you have posted since; incuding the pedantic attacks on about every senior member who has anything to say that may be misconstrued to be against your cause.

On another subject, some compliments:
I will note that Guillermo, via PM, sent me a most reasoned and even handed response defending his comments on this board, and while he chose not to take the edge off of his anti-LoveLOS position here, he has nonetheless gained my profound respect.

I want to publicly thank those who posted on the "original" subject, your wordcrafting has been is excellent. The opposition had little to say (especially in retrospect when reviewing the posts). I ask that Jackson craft his ruling so that the NoVa/DC boys can get back to the reason we really subscribe to WSG.

Rev, I have enjoyed the haiku.

LoveLOS

Hi all,

I just received this PM from Otto himself!

"Your Posts
Freeler,

If I think a poster has said something that is stupid, I think to address the stupidity the best way to do it is by a PM, not by a post attacking that person.

Of course, there could very well be no shortage of what I think are stupid Freeler posts which might be fare game for public comment, wouldn't you agree? But nah, I would make such a statement in a PM, rather than be a jerk by posting an attack on the board.

Do you see my point?

-Uncle Otto"

I am absolutely delighted with his PM and I am secretly, no openly, hoping that this PM will become valuable in the future, the way Vincent van Gogh's letters to his brother became valuable.
We now know why Otto spammed the board to advertise the PM feature.
I am sure that all of you see my point,

Sincerely,
Freeler

Skinless,

Thai Pussy

Railway brothel dump: - Pitsanulok? NakhonSiTammarat?
Rats rattling the empty cans, - Pitsanulok!
Stench of rotting teeth - NakhonSiTammarat!

Freeler: I hope you like them. - I do!
Sorry your teacher retarded you by saying poems must rhyme. - She was nice and had soft bouncy tits! And she was about 20 years older than I was. Can you feel the connection?
We must meet some time. Perhaps the May tour of duty, when I will be after cheap Thai booty. Now I feel like MinM. Talking in rap. taking in crap, wasting my time, thing of nursery rhymes, there's hookers to be laid, scores to be made. Lets put this fucking thing to music. - DooWahDiddyDiddy Dumb?

Haiku are not supposed to rhyme - I know that, sigh...

The following is perfect example of the kind of flaming and attacks made by this member until Jackson started deleting his posts. If you want to see more of this member's valuable contributions, take a look at the archives in D.C. I am only the latest in a very long line of WSG members who has become the target of this poster's attacks.

[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan

Apparently you either cannot read or are so taken with yourself that you can't see the truth. [b]You are lying [/b]here in several posts and you know it. You refuse to see the whole point of this because [b]you are either ignorant or an ass[/b], I really don't know or care which. I have extended peace offerings to you on several occaisons only to be slapped in the face and accused of all sorts of crap.

Then, when you are called out by more than two members, you don't like it and instead of dealing with the issue head on, like most liars, you choose to sidestep the issue and try to throw people off your trail by [b]slinging new bags of bullshit [/b]and changing the subject.

It's all over Otto, people know [b]you're a dick and your shit is on the street. Just go away.[/b][/quote]

Yes, Jackson really has a problem by banning these kinds of posts. Shame on Jackson.

-Uncle Otto

Believe me, Skinless, the last thing Nibu needs is help about where to find big hooters. He is the prince of hooters. He can smell and find them the way trained animals sniff out truffles that are buried underground.

Might you add me to your excellent list of posters who "bravely stood up for Nibu" when he was also the subject of attacks by other members?

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=60766&highlight=nibu#post60766]Otto defends Nibu on 1/28/03[/url]

[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=62365&highlight=nibu#post62365]Otto defends Nibu on 2/3/03[/url]

-Uncle Otto

And OK, OK, message received, I will find some Argentine breasts for Nibu to play with....

Question #1

Can the quote below rendered on this board 03/09/04 be considered a "personal attack"?

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By the way, I am pretty offended that you would ask me for advice about where in Buenos Aires you can find women for sex who will not be repulsed by your obese, 400 pound body. It's been a while since you asked me, but hey, I'm still offended by the thought. But even though I was offended by this, I still cheerfully provided you with the requested information. I won't make that error again. You can find girls to smother beneath your blubber with the help of your other monger friends.

Uncle Otto
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Questiom #2

If this is considered a "personal attack", as I assume most will, why was it published? From all this hoopla the rule is zero tolerance.

What appears to be happening here is a certain member or maybe even members are getting preferential treatment because their noses may be a bit mor tanned than the rest of their bodies. After all that was aired regarding personal attacks, I was rather surprised that the above quote passed censorhip (appearance of double standards). What I think needs to be done is members stop calling the name "Jackson" in vain and let each and every one of us fall or rise on our own merits.

And while I am at it, I also think it is about time that we stop distinguishing members by the number of posts but by the quality of posts that they make. Sure, I only have 150 some odd posts and am a "Rebular member" by choice as not to get caught up in the "Senior member" hype, but I have quality memorable posts and not 100's of spam posts to increase my post count.

Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to add my other .02 Jackson.

Peace, safety and happy hunting out there.

NC Hunter

Again I'm not complaining. I want to pay tribute to the poetic giant. Since I can't beat him at his own game, so here it is:

[red]My name is skinless[/red]
Skinless is supposed to be shy
But I like to expose my round round bottom
Under the big big cherry blossom tree
I like old old Japanese women
With short short legs
And lots and lots of them
And my butt kicked

Personally, I have nothing but praise for Jackson's actions against abusive members-senior or otherwise. I’m tired of the people with control issues who like to play out their sadist fantasies while hiding behind a monitor. It’s not why the forum exists. As far as losing out on their posts. So what? How many posts have we lost because of their abusive treatment? I’m not talking about the people they’ve attacked. I’m talking about mature and intelligent individuals out there whom after reading an attack on some unsuspecting poster who does not bother taking the risk of raising the ire of the control freaks themselves. We lose a lot more keeping and empowering the abusers than we do by silencing them. Not that Jackson is silencing them, just the BS that doesn’t belong here. They can continue to post on topic. If they don’t like that, they can put their money where their mouth is and set-up their own boards to talk. I don’t expect there will be much posted there though.

I have tried not to get into this. It has gone on long enough and each post just adds fuel to the fire. I did something like this once before and regretted it. Mark Twain once said "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear the fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

This could apply to me now, but as the NOVA fued has escalated, it applies to the main participants and those who won't let it lie, and yes right now that includes me.

At the risk of losing my next invite to LoveLOS' block party. At this point, we are all at fault. This word game has gotten out of hand. One reason I have not posted on this previously, is both LoveLOS and Trashman are well able to handle themselves in the word game. As none of us are perfect, for the most part, I tend to support them. I know their methods and I respect their posts. I cannot say that for the other "participant". I don't frequent the boards where he normally posts. I don't travel there, so no since reading about what I am missing.

If Trashman comes down hard on a new poster who says they've been reading the Forum for a long time and then ask where the action is. Trash is doing something most of us would like to do. Telling ther person to RTFF, which contratry to their post, they obviously haven't done. When Trashman or LoveLOS error, they are man enough to stand up and admit it.

Since this ruckus started, the once bountiful NOVA board has had less than ten posts. Others have stated it in their posts, and I echo their sentiments. It is time to end this and go back to getting information on how to get laid, not screwed.

We are at risk of losing two very informative members because one individual comes rambiling through the Northern VA board in the guise of Don Quoxtie to save us from ourselves.

Of the nearly 500 posts by that individual, only 12 are on any of the Virginia boards and 7 of them, that remain posted anyway, have been made since this fiasco started. Of the twelve, only two were of any substance and one of those was to tell us he'd gotten laid for free in Richmond. Okay, if you don't want to monger for money all the time, that is nice to know.

Right now, I tend to feel sorry for the position that Jackson is in.

Jackson has enough to do each day in tasks such as reviewing and sometimes editing the posts of the regular members. His policy of no email addresses, though I am sure there is a filter for this, also takes his time. Maintaining the Forum's hardware and software and now mediating this dispute. Plus as he has said, he has a real job to do as well. I tip my hat to you sir. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

I trust that Jackson will make an equitable decision. In the meantime, Uncle Otto, the next time you feel the need to go tilting at windmills, find and destroy one somewhere else. Please.

As an aside, but related to Uncle Otto is his response to a post on the Richmond board from March 6th. I have mixed emotions on the issue with the pimp who got the suspended sentence. That LE closed down his places for us to monger was bad. That the courts let the pimp who ran the places off is even worse. It rubs me the wrong way to think that most or all of donation I make to the young lady goes to some sorry pimp.

Pimps are like pushers and Hoyt Axton in his song "The Pusher" tells us what he'd do to the pusher.

Just returned from a wonderful vacation in LOS and see the flame war has esclated to the point those of us in the Baltimore/DC/NOVA area risk losing two of our most valued senior members. This due to the intrusion of some "man of the world" that has little history of constructive posts in our area.

I believe the locals should have more input into Jackson's decision, so I want to confirm my full support of LoveLos and Trashman. These are real people who have contributed a wealth of information on mongering in the DC area. Yes trashman is the true "Don" of the board and LoveLos has done more to bring the local mongers together by hosting several round-tables where I have been able to meet and exchange information face-to-face with some good people.

To Uncle Otto: Your "world" history of reports has been excellent but your record in this area has not. Trashman has extended an invitation on several occasions to meet and "bury the hatchet" over a beer, yet you dance around the offer. Possibly because you are no where near the area and chose to stir up trouble from behind your PC. If you are concerned with your personal safety perhaps we can turn it into another "round-table" at a public establishment, where you need not be concerned about a one-on-one confrontation. Many of us are interested in hearing your words of wisdom first hand. And if such a meet can conclude the flame war so much the better. So are you really a man of NOVA or not?

To NOVA board members: Although I live in NOVA most of my posts have been confined to the DC board since that's where I do my mongering. I do (rather did) find the NOVA board informative and I respect your regular posters. Lets all remember the board was doing fine for the past year until Uncle Otto decided to call it "home".

I say "Bravo" to Trash and LoveLos for standing up to an obvious intruder. Monger on dudes!

XSailor

Well it's been 4 whole days since anyone has commented on this situation. I guess now that things have calmed down a bit, it would be a good time to find out what Jackson has to say about the whole thing?

BTW, Jackson, I think it was very smart to let things just play themselves out. Eventually everyone just got bored of the whole subject. But, if you could let us know your opinion on the matter, it would be greatly appreciated.

Jackson,

Member Starfe's contributions to the China board have been negative at best. I don't want to start or have a flame war with him but his comments are unnecessary. If they are critical but constructive than they are always welcome, but in this case they are not. Thank you for looking into this.

Intransit

Jackson

I support Intransit's comments from a couple of days ago re Starfe, and if you look at his (Starfe's) posts since then, he seems intent on turning up the heat.

As a Senior Member he has obviously made some contributions in the past, but his China comments are taking us nowhere - except perhaps into a damaging flame war.

jack

I totally agree with Intransit, although he's not stating the case against STARFE in strong enough terms.

Many of Starfe's posts meet your definition of 'spam' as given in the Forum FAQ ; namely : "Personal insults and attacks" and "General B.S."

The Spam FAQ also lists the sanctions for such behaviour, and I believe at the Very Least a Warning is in order

My compliant is not about one member per say but all the non-posters or the very low posters who just want to take and give nothing back to the site. As many of the readers in the Thailand section know I posts a lot of picture and you would not believe the emails that I get from zero post members or very low post members asking for information. These guys just want to take information and in my opinion add very little if anything to the site.

Below is a PM from one of them:

“(Name Removed)
Regular Member
Posts: 1
Pattaya
Thanks SexReview. I am coming tp Pattaya in about 2 weeks, probably for about a month so I can really explore and meet some hot babes. What are your favourite go-go clubs in Pattaya at the moment. Are there any girls' numbers that you would recommend at any of these clubs?”

While I never mind giving information to the guys who post I don’t reply to the request from guys like this. Also the information he asks for is already on the site, if he was not so lazy he could find it. But instead he and others just want to be spoon-fed the information, never mind that the information is something that other members could benefit from. I would asked all the regular posts not to respond to PM from zero or low level posters and if you do get a request for information that the general board would benefit from not to reply in a PM but post the information for all to share.

I would asked Jackson to think about maybe disabling the PM system from these zero and or low post guys, if it is not to much work. Maybe keep the PM system as a reward once people have added to the board, I would think at least 5 to 10 posts would be more than fair.

Sexreview

SR, that's a great idea. I get some of the same PMs, and while some are genuine, most are just stupid and want all the info without bothering to read a few pages of the forum. I don't know if Jackson can set up the PM system that way, but 10 posts pops into my head as a good number.

I don't know that I agree with you guys on this -- while I've certainly gotten lots of the same kinds of PMs, I've also gotten a number from very new members that were quite specific and showed they'd spent a fair amount of time reading the archives. Some have asked very specific and pointed things about a particular place where I've mentioned staying, things which were not in my original post. It doesn't seem fair to me to penalize the ones who are doing things the right way just because there are lots of lazy bozos who aren't.

When I get posts such as you describe, I generally give them directions for searching the forum, with a couple of suggested keywords pertinent to their question. I usually get a follow-up message saying thanks and indicating by content that they've taken the advice and looked a bit. Sometimes these new folks simply don't know how things work as opposed to necessarily being lazy.

PMs & photo-viewing for newbies,

Some zero post 'members' pmed me on all sorts of stuff.
I didn't really bother to reply, but I exposed one or two on the board.
Ten posts doesn't seem the answer to me, some newbies ask 'where should I go' on several pages. That is not my idea of 'ten posts'.
On some boards posters have to be active posters of on topic material in order to get valuable information themselves. If I had a site, that would be the way to go if said non-existing site ran out of bandwidth...
Bandwidth can be expensive, specialy when it's wasted.

No PMing and photo-viewing for newbies? Sounds right to me!

I think the thing that should be encouraged is writing (hopefully) good reports. I, of course, would be against forcing anyone to post if it's against their nature. However, in a P4P world, they should be strongly encouraged to participate. I'm not sure how to accomplish this without going through a lot of bs. I certainly don't think that Jackson needs any more work to do in relation to the WSG.

I find that about 80% of the PMs I get from people with less than 10 posts are dumb, or really dumb questions. I've asked dumb questions myself (probably still do), so I try to be helpful. If it's too bad, I just ignore them.

Luckily 75% of PMs are from established members. I even had my mailbox fill up a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone know the limit (size or number of messages?) I'd guess about 80 messages, but haven't seen it refered to anywhere.

[blue]JC,

Please read the Forum FAQ for information on the PM system limits.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson,

Thanks for the dedication and work ... here's a pointer toward someone who puts that work at risk for everyone:

A quick search of the posts for Tiny Elvis indicates he is trying to scam the US-Indiana-Bloomington board into PMing him for info on a WSW. The post is IDENTICAL to one he posted on the Gary board a week ago, indicating the same thing. Apparently the first time around he gave out a church's phone number to those who PMd him.

I also see where he's applied for Senior Member status. Jackson, giving this man Senior status would only lend legitimacy to his scams. I hope I've spotted him before he generates too many calls to God-knows-where in Bedford.

I think a revocation rather than a promotion is in order.
Stuck

[blue][Report deleted by Admin][/blue]

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it contained absolutely nothing of any value and thus constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.[/blue][/size]

Now THAT's funny. I'll just have to "fill in the blanks" about what specific complaints that Tiny Elvis must have posted about himself.

Thanks, Jackson.

- Atlanta Monger

Jackson and Other Interested Members.

I realize this is a bit late but I have been away on business (with no play) and this has only come to my attention this afternoon.

I have been an active participant of the Baltimore board for quite some time now. I try not to post excessively and try only to post when I have relevant information to share regarding our hobby. However, I must post in reference to Mr. Trashman.

Regardless of Uncle Otto's assurances, a serious read of the Baltimore board will demonstrate that Trashman is a respected and active member of the our community. He provides expertise, information and a wealth of experience and has been willing to share that knowledge at any time with most any member.

He is also a member who has not been afraid to challenge and call out those posters who show no respect for other members (i.e. posters who appear out of the blue asking for hand outs without researching the forum). Trashman can be blunt and direct but a serious review of the board will demonstrate the level of fairness and even application Trash gives to this kind of posting.

I've seen Uncle Otto's posts elsewhere on WSG and with almost 500 posts to his name one would expect a little more respect for the time and energy of fellow members when visiting unfamiliar territory.

Atlanta Monger, I agree, that is too funny. I guess we will just have to imagine the incredible tongue lashing that Tiny Elvis gave to B-town!

Jackson,

Is there a way to bar newbies from using the PM system to bug me?

This morning I woke up to a PM from one character named Member #1453 - does this handle conform to your username policy? - asking stupid questions about Pattaya.
This character has just ONE post to his credit, and - you guessed it - it was a question (on the Jakarta board).

Strangely, two posts above his, is a post from another ONE time poster with a very similar handle...

Thanks, and even more thanks if you get rid of these posters,

Freeler

This topic is really starting to upset me. First of all the board is free to its users. Secondly it is available to anyone who is willing to follow the guidelines. So posting related information has to be open to every member and so should pms. Other than that I have two suggestions.

Keep photos available to non-members. Why waste Admin time setting up accounts for people who will probably never use them. Plus is they want to post they would join on thier own.

My second suggestion will take alot of heat. I think member status and number of posts should be taken off of the member name when posting. Too many members just want to see their post number go up and will post anything anywhere that helps. Then they act like a guru but get upset when a newbie ask a question. The newbie would not ask them if they did not have such high post and seem willing to help. I'm sure some senior members get overloaded with stupid pms. If they are truely stupid ignore them. I would get frustrated too. But if members were not concerned with numbers they would waste alot less space.

Since the board is free to users we should not complain about things that work right even though they are not to our liking. After all, you can't just get rid of everyone who starts talking to you in real life just because you think they are stupid. We would all be more alone than we are now.

The Jury is in Recess.

[blue]Hi,

I appreciate your comments, but this would have been much better if it had been posted in the "Comment on Forum Rules" section. This section is really intended for Forum Members to complain publically about other specific members, not about the Forum's operation or the membership in general.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Freeler, I get a lot of shit PMs too. Usually from guys too damn lazy to RTFF. I don't mind helping a newbie out, but I'll only do that on the public board. If a newbie PMs me, I usually send them a polite, fuck off until you're a senior member message!

Remember, I said I was polite about it. lol.

However, I don't want to disable the whole system because of a couple of idiots. I have received some useful info from a newbie too. He asked a specific question about some information that he had and how I thought he should post it on the board. He didn't want anyone to be exposed. I told him what I thought, but the info he had was fresh and something that I hadn't heard about before.

I guess it's just hit or miss!

Can anything be down to shut down Sloppy Balls? He never posts anything but complaints and criticisms.

NC Hunter

NC Hunter, I think Jackson has already seen Sloppy balls' work, as evidenced by the editing of personal attacks. I think it is good when we police our own boards and save Jackson the aggrivation, as long as we stay within the guidelines and don't personally attack anyone. But, the quickest way to get Jackson's attention is to use the "report this post" link to send the post directly to him.

Happy Hunting,
Box

Sloppy balls seems to post all of his reports in blue, and they just say: [quote][blue][report deleted by admin][/blue]

EDITOR'S NOTE: [blue]This report was deleted because it contained absolutely nothing of any value and thus constituted a complete waste of bandwidth. [/blue][/quote]Gee, I personally kinda like the goofball, he makes life amusing, adds color the board (literally); and we can see that no matter how bad shit is for us, there is still somebody more pissed off and miserable. ;)

I just wish I could have read the zinger he just fired back at me before it got edited (Jackson, can you PM me a copy?). Oh well, guess I'll have to get my amusement another way...

LoveLOS

I have a complaint about NC Hunter:

His reports are fucking excellent, but he won't ask for an upgrade to senior status. Rather set in his opinion on this, but we have to wait for his pearls of wisdom until you pass them to the board.

Is there any way of marking his login so his posts hit the board immediately and still have him "listed" as a regular member?

[huge grin]

LoveLOS

[b][red] Skinless[/red] [/b] has recently been taking up Too Much Band·Width with Ridiculously Off·Topic Posts and Personal Flames here to be Ignored any longer

His 'Letter to the Editor' today was the Last Straw !!

At the very least , a WARNING that he's skating on Thin Ice may be adviseable

Letni, a fellow hobbyist keeps posting right after me in different sections (no problem) and is hung up on convincing (me) that I am wrong and that Prague is this and Prague is that. What do I care? I make good effort to remember to include in my reports that it is ¡®my opening¡¯ or that¡¯s what ¡®I think¡¯ but he seems to have a problem with that. And I never use the word ¡®cheap¡¯ in my reports like he keeps quoting me on that in his posts. The fact is that I have visited all the cities that I have mentioned and the observations are based on my own personal experiences. Who is the World Traveler here?

I could just feel his negative energy all the way through the wires. To me, it looks like he could have posted his reports some time earlier than me. And I am sorry, my first impression was that he was promoting local talents. I know it is possible that he may be doing it unintentionally but either way it is not showing much respect to another member.

What do you think of his posts Jackson? Do you see anything malicious about them or I am over reacting? Or perhaps it is my fault and my posts are being read differently than they were intended to? I don¡¯t mean to add another request to your already heavy load of responsibilities but I am (really) not into off-topic subjects, to start a flame, or tic for tat. Do you think you could send a few words to him to please be more appreciative of a report than critiquing it? I could send him a PM or say a few words of response in a post but I rather not to.

If you think I am over reacting, I will just let it go. Many thanks for taking your time to read this. Keep up the good work.

World Traveler

World Traveler asks =

[quote][i]What do you think of his [Letni's] posts Jackson? Do you see anything malicious about them or I am over reacting? [/i][/quote]

I think you're Over·reacting , World Traveler

Letni's posts that follow yours sometimes express a legitimate difference of opinion; but he states his case in a manner that is informative for all of us, and he never makes personal attacks on you nor is he even rude to you

A Search of Lenti's posts show that he is also a very well traveled individual who has a lot of good info to share = as do You

So he doesn't agree with everything you say = So What ??

I don't even agree with My·Self 100% of the time; so I recommend you take a chill pill, Dude !!

And Keep Writing those Excellent Posts you're famous for !!

[i]I was being serviced in my car when another monger pulled up next to the car. He was crying and begging the sw to give him back his wallet. She was a bsw and she kicked the guy out the car and took off with his wallet and car.

I felt sorry for the guy and gave him twenty dollars. I told him to read this Board in order to be safer. All I got from his rantings was that his name was "piper" or something like that.

He was oozing from the leg and I noticed plastic hanging out of his ass...it was a condom..this was auful, imagine getting reamed by a bsw and then being trown out?

I found lot later that this a male tranny who was taking advantage of monger.[/i]

From Florida buyer in Ft Lauderdale. A NUTJOB!!!

Jackson,

Please, enough is enough. Slappy Balls is now resorting to posting ficticious reports in the Charlotte and Columbus sections.

You've already edited and/or deleted 10 of his 20 reports, and now he is making a mockery of this fine forum by posting boastful non-information that isn't even true.

We don't need his type here. Please ban this immature laddie.


I also agree with Heat Seeker regarding Florida Buyer and his apparent feud with Gpiper in the Ft. Lauderdale section. Gpiper certainly wasn't faultless when it started, but has since wisely avoided additional confrontation.

Perhaps a warning shot to Florida Buyer to straighten up would be warranted?


Thanks for the consideration and for your fine efforts and dedication to continually improving the forum.

I originally posted this in the "Banned Users" section, but decided that it probably belonged here, instead. Please delete the extra post in whichever section you feel it does not belong.

Thanks,
Atlanta Monger

A Florida Buyer Post!

I was being serviced in my car when another monger pulled up next to the car. He was crying and begging the SW to give him back his wallet. She was a BSW and she kicked the guy out the car and took off with his wallet and car.

I felt sorry for the guy and gave him twenty dollars. I told him to read this Board in order to be safer. All I got from his rantings was that his name was "Piper" or something like that.

He was oozing from the leg and I noticed plastic hanging out of his ass. It was a condom. This was auful, imagine getting reamed by a BSW and then being thrown out?

I found lot later that this a male tranny who was taking advantage of monger.

Please get rid of this nut, he has good information but just goes overboard over nothing. He is not worthy of this forum.

Siesta,

Added these fake pic in Colombia, Peru & Argentina section also.
Now he can't remember if they were stolen pic from Colombia Argentina or Peru.

These Pic are misleading.

He should be BANNED

Lover Boy

[blue]Please use the "Report this post to a moderator" to advise me of any photographs that you suspect were copied from another website. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

I posted this in the NOVA board, and wanted to post it here as well. I wanted it to be in both places so that someone would see it:


What the fuck is this forum supposed to be about? It is supposed to be about the pursuit of the ultimate happiness: finding pleasure with women. I have read the last few pages of posts here and apparently I spoke too damn soon in the letters to the editor section about this whole damn situation.

Uncle Otto, I love you man. That is, I love all the information and posts that you bring to this forum. Well, at least the ones about women. I do not like the ones where you claim to be against flaming and personal attacks, all the while flaming and personally attacking people. I have long tried to remain neutral in this affair, but I can no longer sit back and watch as you trade barbs with Trashman and LoveLOS. If you don't like what's going on in a particular section of the board, then pass on by. Change the fucking channel, do something, but quit telling people how to communicate on their home court. I myself am against flaming. I've have learned several hard lessons about that subject, so I try never to flame anyone, if at all possible.

Take the Greenville, SC board. I am a very active member there and I think I have built an excellent reputation as someone that has reliable, valuable information in that area. I try to encourage as many newbies as possible to post. I even try to teach newbies how to post properly so that they can contribute even more to the forum. And, I think this part is especially important, if I notice someone posting just for the sake of posting. Someone who only posts information that has been given in the past or only asks RTFF questions, then I think it is important to point that out. I try never to personally attack that person but I feel that it is important to point out bullshit when it is presented on the board for the benefit of other newbies that might be hurt by that bullshit info. I think this is a valuable service that senior members can provide, and more importantly, I think it is required of senior members to help police the board. In other words, I think it is up to all senior members, not just you, to help keep this forum doing what it is intended, and that is sharing information about our hobby. But, it is obvious to me and everyone else on this board that you cannot and will not ever change Trashman or LoveLOS, so, why do you keep trying? More importantly, I don't think they should change. They were a part of NOVA long before you and have not really had any problems, so why are you trying so hard?

Now, to Trashman and LoveLOS, I love you guys too! My advice is to do what you want in your own back yard and to hell with anyone else, including Uncle Otto. Ignore him. Obviously, you will never be able to communicate effectively that he is guilty of flaming and personal attacks, so why waste your breath? Stick to what you do best, sharing info and policing your own section of the board, and fuck everyone else!

I know I probably should have posted this in the Complaints section, but I wanted to post it in the area effected most by this bullshit. Gentlemen, I think it is time for everyone to grow up and come to a 'Gentlemen's' agreement. Otto, don't post about Tman and LL, and Tman and LL don't post about Otto. You all are hurting the board by continuing this war.

boxcc, i made a conscious decision not to post in the northern virginia thread for over a month. in my absence, there was almost non-stop off-topic posts and flaming. a few of the many examples posted in my absence:

[quote][b]originally posted by trashman[/b]

as the rest of you can see, this clown is just like others who get called on the carpet for something and then refuse to answer the questions posed to them because they either have no answer or have an agenda that would reveal their real identity.

what a wimp!

i would not expect any meaningful contributions from this jerk. he'll get tired of this little game soon like others have and will go away. meanwhile, just ignore him completely.[/quote]

[quote][b]originally posted by motorback[/b]


ok so let me see if i can get this right.....
huntergirl self admitted fag....fag = slang for cigs (he should know this since he's a world traveler)
huntergirl self admitted fag but doesn't like other little girls???
likes jello and to peddle things (i hope not her ass because thats illegal in every state i know of).

so what we have here is a little girl who likes to follow the big kids around on her pink big wheel pleading to be accepted while picking up dropped cigs in an attempt to be cool and accepted. all the while asking to see others asses so she can dream of what it would be like to have one perched on her nose.

little girl please either change your tune or get lost. this kind of bs that spews from your mouth (along with other things) has no place here on the board. if you wish to be a positive contributing member of this board, we will gladly accept you. if you choose the other route then i can assure you the road will be a bit rougher. [/quote]

[quote][b]originally posted by lovelos[/b]

huntergirl,

i notice you seem to have a thing for being an unpleasant participant on this board. you admit to being an **** faggot, so i guess there is no reason that you should take offense if i continue to refer to you in those terms. so please, until you come of age and figure out your sexual preference, why don't you take your whining to some other site, cause we are all tired of fucking hearing it.
[/quote]


mind you, all this posted while my narrow ass wasn't anywhere in sight for over a month. these three posters, among others, were posting garbage and flames galore. but somehow you claim it's my fault. i'd like to know what you're smoking.

-uncle otto

Otto, I didn't say that they were innocent. My whole point is that everyone needs to quit, you, Trashman, LoveLOS and anyone else that keeps trashing each other.

I have read the posts, seen the attacks and quite frankly think all of you need to grow the fuck up! I agree with your whole premis that this forum is about the women, not personal attacks. Nobody benefits from this kind of back and forth swipping at one another. HOWEVER, this whole thing has degraded into childishness: You are a poo-poo head! No, you are a poo-poo head! No, you are! I know you are, but what am I?

I expect that from my 6 year old, not fully grown, well-respected mongers. All any of you are doing is harming your reputations and stature here on this forum. Grow the fuck up and move the fuck on, and I mean ALL OF YOU!!!

Now, you can listen to the boxman or not, I don't give a shit. You are the ones hurting your own reputations. By all means, keep it up if you want to. Nobody else is paying attention anymore!

A-Fucking Men!

Jackson:

I am surprised at your conduct as you are clearly are very sharp guy. But you are allowing Skinless to use you shamelessly. He flaunts your rules by repeatedly spamming via personal attacks and abuse. Now that he knows you will delete his abusive posts, he goes ahead and posts threats in direct violation of your policies and he then orders you to delete his post (which he knows you will do) so that he can delude himself into believing that he is in charge and that you will obey his commands.

Does he "have something" on you such that you are afraid to enforce the rules against repeated spamming when it comes to him? Why have you not reduced him to regular member status as your policies state you will do to repeated spammers. Why is he immune?

Jackson,

I trust that you have seen the latest barrage of vile personal comments following my disclosure of having terminal cancer.
They really are beyond resonable. Anything that I may have posted pales by comparison.

You do whatever you want with whomever you want seeing how this is your business, but I formally request that Otto be admonished and censured for gross violation of the very rules he claims to defend on your behalf, that of no personal attacks and zero flame tolerance.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this post.

Ljohnson, I think there is some difference between some of the people involved here. I always consider Skinless somewhat of a joker, and his posts seem to bring to light the whole absurdity of many discussions. In my opinion, they're not serious threats.

I think a lot of people want Jackson to step in and just give a verdict. I'm not sure that will happen, as I don't think he wants to get immersed in these thick rivers of BS running across his screen.

TrashMan, yet again you use your claim of illness to excuse your flame posts against me and others and your threat made to me. You act as if everything you do is some kind of funny joke and that people should just laugh it off.

I never thought your attacks on other members were funny from day one. It was even less funny when, in the midst of an inexplicable series of solicitations for a face-to-face meeting, you boasted about wanting to put a cap in my skull.

My heart is not filled with sympathy for anybody who wishes me bodily harm, whether they are really sick or simply lying about it in order to engender pity.

-Uncle Otto

Jackson, I frequently travel through Virginia, and while I do not post there had found the No.Va. board to be a wealth of information. I particularly admire the fair but firm attitude of Trashman, in that he respects the posting of useful information.
I do not appreciate the arrogance of this gentleman OttoGraham (although I do admire the legendary quarterback bearing the same name).
May I suggest that you establish a separate section of the Virginia board for OttoGraham in a manner similar to that which you established so masterfully for DeeUncola-in-NJ.
I beleive that those who enjoy Mr. Graham's comments would be free to enjoy them, while those seeking information of a sexual nature whoul find that in the normal areas. Thank you.

Wooly, you never made one post in the Northern Virginia thread until you came in today to attack me.

Would you think it appropriate for me to come over to the New Jersey threads where you normally post and make an attack on you?

-Uncle Otto

Please, you have to be kidding! You are saying that I threatened you...would you be so kind as to tell me when I directly threatened you ever?

You seem so caught up in not approving of or liking or whatever things I say. I can appreciate anybody having the right not to like something or someone, but that doesn't seem to be reason to either go after them directly or indirectly. I have no problem respectfully agreeing to disagree about anything with anyone. I wish I could say the same about your obvious feelings on the matter.

The reason I ask anyone out to have a beer is simple, I want to have a beer and meet this person that has come to impact my life in some manner and see what makes them tick. See if I feel comfortable with them, trust them, etc etc. Especially true with meeting fellow mongers for the first time, you're always a little wary, understandable. It allows both parties to relax, go over what happened, find where things went off track and then try it all again. Sometimes this works and sometimes the two part ways still not feeling really right. Normal.

You know sometimes people build up an impression about someone based on all the wrong reasons and that first impression can be tough to overcome. The reality is usually way below that picture in our mind's eye. I'm actually a pretty fun guy to party with, just ask the guys who have and they'll tell you.

The offer is still good.

Trashman, you just won't give up this nonsense, will you? Not even after 30 posts have been deleted just this evening because of your constant flaming. For somebody who keeps claiming to have a terminal illness, you are expending a lot of your last energy on me. I'd be flattered if I really cared one whit about your well being.

As you well know, I never said you directly threatened me, as in a post left on this board. As you know, one of your colleagues emailed me details of your (drunken?) boast of planning to put a cap in my skull as a warning to me against accepting your repeated requests to meet me face-to-face. I emailed a copy of this to Jackson many weeks ago soon after I got it.

Another poster on this board (with whom you get together with regularly) wrote something to the effect that it was likely I am so stupid that I would bring a knife to this gunfight.

Still another of your personal friends who has been present with you on many occasions wrote here that the violent background of a couple posters who have actually killed other people could be revealed to me.

It's not my intention here to catalog the entire history of your "joke." You've coyly had a lot of fun with this for six weeks or so - even boasting last week that you'd run me off for good. It was in the wake of this comment of yours that I decided to enlighten you to the fact that my silence in the last month had less to do with your threat and more to do with my desire to provide a decent interval in which you could hopefully exhaust your unending desire for "spankings." An interval which you filled with attacks on other targets since I was conveniently absent.

Now, you want to come out and deny making any threat against me. Nice gesture, but one which is hollow since you've capitalized on the threat and continued to "joke" about it until tonight. I did then, and do now, consider your boasting of planning to do me in to be simply borne of spite, malice, and "big man" talk. If it had been truly genuine, I can assure you you'd have been visited by a couple of beefy guys with badges who probably would have dragged you off to a jail cell. I have connections that would have made that happen with one phone call. (It's nice to have had a prominent law enforcement personality around here as a client.)

You're really a fun guy to party with? Only if my idea of fun would be to trade cheap talk about rubbing out somebody who pissed me off online.

As I said, you're spending an inordinate amount of time on me when you claim to have little time left. If this is really true, don't you have something better to do, like writing a will, making peace with your family, or getting straight with your creator?

One thing I would encourage you NOT to do is keep soliciting me for pity. I have a limited supply, most of which is reserved for poor kids in Argentina who are innocent and haven't threatened or made light of my safety. (Don't think I've forgotten your encouragement of complaints against me for doing fundraising for Jackson's charity on this board - no good deed goes unpunished, indeed.)

-Uncle Otto

OK, Otto i have had enough of your fucking lies. You are pathological in them.
I NEVER boasted that i 'had gotten rid of you off the forum"

I NEVER said a word to ANYONE about you soliciting for the Charity, that's a total lie!

I NEVER have looked for pity from ANYONE, least of all yours.

As for your "connections"? Don't make me fucking laugh! You can't decide yourself what you mean. You claim to be oh so freaked out and frightened by "death threats" yet in the same breath brush them off as "drunken" rantings, boasts, or Big Man talk. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

As for my "unending desire for spankings", please! Again, a little verbal fisticuffs never hurt anyone, but once again the only ones that are any of your fucking business at all would be ones directed at you, period.
You are NOT the forum police! Get off your soap box! Mind your own business. This is what started this whole crap in the first place was you sticking your nose where it didn't belong and NOBODY, not just me and not just people on the NOVA forum likes that.

And as for what I should do with my time, don't you EVER fucking presume to tell me how I should be spending my remaining days here because you don't have the right nor a clue!

You are such a total coward.

jackson, here's a spam that i received via pm from a member named tooth ferry. we need to ban this guy. thanks.

fw: hey fellas, are you thinking!

malta, italy, greece, where ever, most of the young women and girls that you talk about are sex-slaves, brutalized, tortured, raped repeatedly and shocked into forced prostitution!!
the young women and girls that you abuse, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and put through hell on earth are all playing a charade!! they, like most of the poor, innocent women of eastern europe, were railroaded into the cesspools that you patronize. they are guarded like property, live in usually wretched conditions and are always terrorized into performing. they are essentially enslaved to the sleazeball pimp, club owner, stinking mafia-scumball-hood, or whoever they're owned by. they are often descent, educated, naive women and girls who have had the terrible misfortunate of falling into a heinous and evil net of sex-trafficking.
it's not like anyone is saying don't party with a consenting, adult gal who know's what she's doing and is not physically or emotionally-ill, and wants to make some cash. it's a free market world.
but you guys are fuelling a mob-run, evil and monstrous machine that preys upon the poor women of eastern europe and in devious, criminal ways dupes and terrorizes them into forced-prostitution!!
you guys have to know what's going on, and if by some reason you don't. now you do!!
the party is over!!!!!get with it before you really get sucked down the toilet with the scum-mobsters and criminal-traffickers of these poor women. all the shit pimps, club owners, keepers and guards who put these poor souls through hell on earth will soon be punished, i can assure you of that!!!
you are now duly warned!!

tooth ferry

[quote]Originally posted by Trashman

Mind your own business. This is what started this whole crap in the first place was you sticking your nose where it didn't belong and NOBODY, not just me and not just people on the NOVA forum likes that.[/quote]This actually began when you took it upon yourself to attack ("spank") any forum poster who risked posting an opinion contrary to yours, and escalated when your frustration gave way to threats of physical attack.

I freely admit to your accusation of being a total coward - at least inasmuch as I don't have even the slightest desire to be on the receiving end of your violence, be it a genuine threat or simply bluster.

Indeed, for somebody who claims to supposedly be so peaceful, your last profanity-laced tirade and continuing threats belie a personality bent on lashing out. Be that as it may, I am now content to await your demise, as it will end your nastiness once and for all.

I do not understand where all your hatred of me comes from. Perhaps you're substituting the nearest available target (me) with the source of your deeper psychological problems. A week ago it was another poster. A month ago it was still another.

You need to make peace with God and stop blaming me for your problems.

-Uncle Otto

can we donate funds to the wsg charity to give guys like catire down in rio some racial sensitivity training? his nonsensical stereotypical claims cloaked as observations and labeled as "real" are as bigoted as they come. he claims he has black friends, but then most bigots preface their racially inflammatory statements with that sentence.

i am one for free speech but when that speech is 100% bullshit that inflames and denigrates a number of board members then something should be done. i know it won’t happen but i vote you ban his ass. now i feel better.

nc hunter

Look Otto, if my prolific use of profanity bothers you, I apologize for that. I have always had a sailor's mouth and probably always will.

Look, can't you get past this belief you seem to have that I hate you. I don't hate you, you just annoy me.

Otto, like probably 99% of the guys who post here, I am just a regular guy living in the burbs who hasn't the slightest intention of comitting a violent act against anybody so can we just get past THAT whole issue? If anything, I am guilty of having a vivd imagination which comes out verbally and here. God, just let it go, will you?

And as for spanking, yes yes yes, I freely admit that I enjoy the shit out of verbally spanking someone with the express intent to both educate the poor slob before he does damage to himself out there as well as the entertain both myself and others.
I am deeply sorry that you do not find this good natured verbal sparring entertaining. No one can please everyone. I may just be a guy who really rubs you the wrong way. I can accept that if you can. Why don't we each just chill the "heck" out and drop this. I accept that I am not your favorite guy.

Balls in your court Otto. I can't get any clearer on this matter. I am formally extending a really big olive branch to you openly. Please accept it.

Will he take it? Will he go into another long post? Will we all get back to doing what we do best? Will I stop acting like a sick twisted fuck?


Don't touch that dial!,Stay tuned to this board!

OTTO,

Spanking newbees with RTFF type questions is a "right of passage" on the NOVA board, which you chose to invade. I, as well as others who joined the board the past year, were subject to this "education". We learn to benefit from this as we soon find out Trashman and others have a wealth of knowledge they willing share with worthy members. So the "Village Idots" as you refer to us, do take stong offense to your comments.

You, have only proved to be one heartless SOB without an ounce of human compassion. You have done nothing but rally the board (village idots?) against you. Why don't you just go away and leave us alone?

XS

I am all in favor of RTFF. If that were all that this is, you can be sure this would have been over a long time ago. In fact it would never even have started. I've even posted RTFF myself.

Xsailor, I have as much right to post on this board as a foul-mouthed, offensive troller of streetwalkers. I got your PM demanding I quit. You didn't need to repeat it in a post. (Or maybe you did, since you've posted it before and I ignored it then, and as well I ignored your PM.) In fact, the more you demand my banning and resignation, the more I am determined to stay. So get over it. I'm not going anywhere, and with each new attack on me, you ensure I will continue to post.

Which - I've never posted anything remotely close to the most vile insults which have been hurled at me in recent days. Nazi war criminal (a nice one to hurl at somebody who, like me, had relatives exterminated by the Germans). Lying dick. A jerk for having solicited charitable contributions. Cocksucker. Et cetera. In fact, some of these are still up and posted in this thread and others.

And to top it off, after six weeks, NOW we see a written denial of the "joke" threat to kill me. Kinda late, isn't it? And it comes on the heels of being derided as a total coward. I wonder how somebody can ridicule me as a total coward when their intentions are benevolent. That's the kind of taunt that ALWAYS follows an invitation to "step outside." (So that a cap could be put in my skull?)

So, I'm supposed to have an upswelling of human compassion for the source of all this? Hah! I'm not Jesus. Why keep petitioning me for pity? FORGET IT. Personally I wish excruciating pain and suffering on those who threaten me, attack me, and otherwise position themselves as my enemies. Seems possible I may be getting my wish. Of course, if somebody is really my close friend with my best interests at heart, they know they don't have to worry about the bad karma streaming out of this post. ;-)

-Uncle Otto

P.S. If you really are as sick as you say you are, Trashman, mightn't you be better off giving your olive branch to somebody close to you? I can imagine that with your abrasive, attacking personality you have made a lot of enemies that you need to make peace with a whole lot more than with me.

damn otto, how's your blood pressure? are you doing alright? it sounds like you are about to loose it completely! if you haven't lost it already. man, look at yourself. you cannot even talk rationally about this situation any longer.

trashman has apologized and wants to move on. lovelos has done the same. why can't you? i don't give a rats ass if you believe them or not. i could give two shits if you even care, but they are not going to attack you any more. they just want to write on their little section of the board without getting flamed by you on everything that they write. i don't think that is an unreasonable request. you don't have to like them, because i know that you don't. you don't even, have to pay attention to them, but the last time i looked, the united states of america was a free fucking country and we have the right of free speech. if you don't agree with what they say, then fucking ignore it. they do however have the right to say it. and, before you tell me that this isn't the united states, and that this is a benevolent dictatorship run by our beloved jackson, i already know that. and, i further know that we have to follow his rules to post. but, as long as we follow those rules, then we can post what we want and don't have to get approval from you.

you yourself have admitted to flaming people for rtff:

"i am all in favor of rtff. if that were all that this is, you can be sure this would have been over a long time ago. in fact it would never even have started. i've even posted rtff myself."

so, if you are in favor of rtff, and have posted rtff yourself, then why can't others? it seems to me that it goes much deeper than that. i understand that you feel that you were threatened. i would take that rather personally too. but, it is unproductive to continue with attacking trashman and lovelos everytime they post. if you don't want to meet them in person, then don't. but, this board is fairly anonymous. if you fear someone 'putting a cap in your skull' then i think you are overexagerating the danger because how the hell are they going to find you?

why keep this up? why not end this? they are not playing anymore. they are not going to attack you any more. hell, they don't even want to talk to you anymore. they just want to post in peace, without you jerking their chains every chance you get.

as of right now, you are the only one continuing this war. you and only you have the power to end it. if you continue to post lengthy rebuttals, you do nothing but damage yourself. man, if you haven't noticed, you aren't doing any good on the nova board. hell, even the guys that t-man and ll have flamed are on their side not yours. they all want you to stop. if you continue they will do nothing but laugh at your feeble arguments.

this is my last post on the subject. i will not respond any further to anything you do or say. i believe that trashman and lovelos will do the same. it is time to end this, so we all are. henceforth, that means 'from now on', we will not repond to you in any manner whatsoever. jackson has stated numerous times that that is how he wants it, so we will obey his wishes. i just think it is about time that you obey those wishes also.

i wish you a long and happy life. i do want to say also that i wish you would get back to posting information about women, because i do actually enjoy your reports. i just hate this damn flame shit!

Boxcc, looking at the complaints and opinions section of this board, you seemingly have a complaint or opinion to post about other members virtually every day. (Well, to be accurate, you've done it nine different times in the last 21 days.) And you want to lecture me about getting back to posting about sex? Rather like the pot calling the kettle black.

Since yet again I've been demanded to have pity on poor Trashman, let me say again: No.

When the time comes when you've been threatened and called the most offensive things you can imagine by another member, Boxcc, you can be sure I won't lecture you about your need to forgive and forget.

-Uncle Otto

I meant what I said, I am no longer posting on that topic.

And for the final time having said it several times before, but for some reason you seem to want to keep saying things that are inaccurate...I never have nor want to have your pity. I never asked you or anyone else for pity so why do you insist upon posting that I ask you for it when you know that's not true.

I don't think anyone really has as much problem with you or your viewpoints as much as the way you continue with whining about things people have said to you or about you when they have ceased. Yet, you keep going on and on and on, why?

Last point, you want to critisize me for supposedly posting about my health situation in order to gain sympathy and pity and you seem to have a problem with me doing that if in fact that's what I was doing yet you have mentioned several times now what I assume to be your ethnic heritage with regard to Nazi was crime atrocities. Aren't you doing exactly what you accuse me of in so doing, trolling for sympathy?

Sorry, one more point. You say in your post on the NOVA board
recently that we should all be talking about sex and stay on that subject, yet you use the phrase "troller of SW's" as though you consider that to be a bad and offensive thing. Why the hell are even here if that is a problem for you? I thought this was all about fucking pussy and the variety of sources for that. Now you don't like anyone who fucks SW's?

And the issue that Box raises about anonymity is a poignant one. How on earth would anyone be able to find you and do harm to you anymore than you could find someone you felt had threatened you and turn them over to the authorities with whom you claim to be friends with? Unless of course somehow you have access to records that you should not have access to!
Why don't you tell us?

You can respond to this or not and in a normal fashion or hostility driven one, I don't care. I am going to take Box's advice and simply not respond to you anymore. I kick myself for being so stupid as to get drawn into this crap continually with you as I thought I was better than that, but this really has to be it. Goodbye and good riddance.

Trashman, don't you have a chemotherapy appointment to go to or something? For somebody who keeps claiming to be so sick you sure have a lot of energy to continue to attack me, even a day after you claimed to have learned your lesson.

http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=208849#post208849

-Uncle Otto

[quote]Originally posted by Trashman

Sorry, one more point. You say in your post on the NOVA board recently that we should all be talking about sex and stay on that subject, yet you use the phrase "troller of SW's" as though you consider that to be a bad and offensive thing. Why the hell are even here if that is a problem for you? I thought this was all about fucking pussy and the variety of sources for that. Now you don't like anyone who fucks SW's?
[/quote]

I think the best answer to this is to quote from a PM I got this morning.

[quote]Originally PM'd by _______


Those guys you are arguing with are numnuts who spend all their time picking up crack *****s in the inner city and hanging around massage parlors.

You are a well travelled gentleman who has met women all over the world.

Just my opinion but I would ignore all of them and keep posting about your overseas adventures.
[/quote]

Good advice, which I may take as soon as the constant attacks on me cease. Till then, attack away, I won't quit in the face of flames. The last time I did Trashman was crowing that he had driven me from this site.

-Uncle Otto

As I just said in the Nova post, what in my last post here constitutes "attacking you"? Perhaps I am being really dense and just don't get exactly what it is that you find offensive in those two posts or even what could be construed as an "attack"?
Be specific. Perhaps I can learn from you so that I can be a better person if I don't realize that certain things I say that I consider inoffensive are actually offensive. Again, please be specific and refer to those two posts. I really want to know.

I thought you announced this morning that you would have nothing further to say on this topic?

I guess that statement was as true as your belated denial of having threatened me.

If you want to keep it going, Trashman, just continue posting about little old me, your obsession. Because I won't give you the satisfaction of thinking (again) you've driven me to quit this site. I spent a month not posting here to give you an opportunity to calm down, and it obviously didn't work.

If you are as sick as you claim, I have a lot more time to respond to your taunts than you have to post them.

And I won't fail to respond to attacks.

-Uncle Otto

OK, Otto.
Read the post I just placed on the NOVA board once again offering to make peace once and for all. You're right, I don't have the time nor the energy to keep this up. You got me, OK?

I have invited you out to the Block tonight where I will be and I will buy the first round in a nice safe comfortable public place and you can bring anyone you want with you, if you should so choose. I will be alone and meet you at 10PM at the Plaza. The purpose of this meeting is to stop all this nonsense by each of us having the opportunity to see that the other is not really an asshole, but merely a strong willed, strong opinoned person. I believe we might just be able to forge a cease fire at the very least and just perhaps find some common ground.

I can't make it any clearer than this Otto. I have extended multiple olive branches in the past in hopes that we could end this thing civilly and the same holds true for this offer. It is sincere and you can decide if you wish to make peace or not.

If the location does not suit you, name another and I'll be happy to oblige, but the reason I am headed to the Block is for the proper subject matter to be discussed here...SEX!

It's up to you

BTW Otto,

I really don't want you to go away and never considered it any kind of victory when you stopped posting for a bit. I have no desire to see you stop posting. You say you don't have any problem with me posting as long as I don't attack you or anyone else . Well I don't have any problem with you posting as long as your posts don't consist of warnings about not adhering to rules and complaints to the Admin. I find that as bothersome as you find my language and approach. If you really get around the world as much as you claim, then you clearly have a lot to offer in terms of advice on when, where, and how much for pussy in various parts of the world that I'm sure others on the NOVA board would find to be of great value, so please do NOT stop posting about those things.

Two whole posts without any serious slaps at me. At this rate, perhaps there is a chance for the Jews and Palestinians next.

Rather than continuing to insist on a face-to-face meeting with me, I think the best course of action is for you to simply stop mentioning me in your posts at all (not to mention stop attacking people in general). Because our face-to-face meeting will never happen, for obvious reasons.

Happy hunting in Baltimore. I have other plans.

-Uncle Otto

Ah, a sarcastic attitude! I love it! You DO have a sense of humor after all.

I will be happy not to mention you in my posts as long as you agree to do the same, I think that's only fair. As I stated on the NoVA board, my sole interest in meeting with you was to end this. I felt that the personal touch of sharing a drink or two would help that take place. It's definitely your choice.

I will continue to post when I feel i have something worthwhile to say. It may not always be about sex. And it may contain use of profanity. And last, it may address others on the forum.

If you are sincere about making peace and ending this then you will agree not leave me alone and I will do the same and if you have a problem with something I post as being A) not about sex
B) use of profanity, and/or C) a statement toward another that you don't care for, then I will expect you to report my problematic posts either here where they belong as a Complaint about another member or directly to the Admin, thereby allowing him to decide what goes or does not go on HIS boards. Agreed?

I don't always "attack" others with my posts so it should not be a surprise to you that, as you pointed out, you saw two posts previous to this without containing anything you felt was an "attack" upon you. Since I know now what you dislike, whenever I should feel the need arise to contact you, I will refrain from those hot button items so as not to offend you directly.

Most importantly, BOTH of us need to agree not to refer to the other in 3rd person or by inference in our posts. It's too easy to slip back into a fight again if we do that. Agreed?

Have a nice day, Otto.

Trashman, I left you alone for a month. In fact, I didn't post anything on this board at all for a month. A lot of good that did me - it got me called almost every foul name in the book upon my return.

If you show that you can continue to post about finding women for sex without the attendant baggage of flaming and attacking those who disagree with you, you have nothing to worry about.

And if you think that my public disapproval of attack posts is something limited to you, you need to read what I posted just this morning on the Argentina board.

A few cretins may be highly entertained by your attacks on me and on other members. Personally, I'd like to be entertained ONLY by your posting of information about finding women for sex.

As I said, happy hunting. This actually goes out to all of you on this board.

Back to the subject at hand, perhaps tomorrow I will post a photo of the lucky girlie who gets to suck my dick tonight. I need to pick up a wide-angle lens for the camera beforehand, though.

-Uncle Otto

Sounds like we're almost done here. I don't recall that I said anything about you during that month and if I did, I apologize.

Actually though, a great many guys seem to find entertainment in good natured trading of barbs which I will continue to do, just not with you or about you.

I realize full well that your "post police" ( No offense ) activities are not only not limited to me personally nor to other NOVA board members and not even to just the NOVA board.

Again, you have the absolute right to your opinion, but not the authority nor responsibility to admonish others in a way that infers you will have them banned or other punishment that Jackson may see fit to administer. That one issue is seemingly the last place that we differ. I wouldn't bring it up except for the fact that so many members of both NOVA and many other boards seem to share my take on that one issue. Can't ALL be wrong.

I am man enough to admit when I have erred and have done so several times. I am NOT looking for anything from you other than acknowledgement that you understand where I draw the line.

Quote from your post:

"Nazi war criminal (a nice one to hurl at somebody who, like me, had relatives exterminated by the Germans). Lying dick. A jerk for having solicited charitable contributions. Cocksucker. Et cetera. In fact, some of these are still up and posted in this thread and others."

Truth hurts don't it?

I don't see anyone demanding your banning or resignation. I thought I was very civil asking "Why don't you just leave us alone?"

XS

Indeed, the truth hurts. Which is why I saw the Nazi cracks to be insulting and hurtful.

Now, since you want to insult me, Xsailor, let me discuss what I've heard about you by way of PM this morning. How does "low-rent, worthless gutter trash" sound? Which is how you were described, Xsailor.

Or "waste of bandwidth," which is how I would describe your posts on this board.

Does your daughter swallow when you have her blow you? Personally, I agree with the guy who PMed me when he said you should have let her stick to servicing the varsity football team.

-Uncle Otto

Otto.

I prefer " King of the low-rent, worthless gutter trash" but I won't begrudge you for the omission.

If I had a daughter I might take offense to your other comments. Nonetheless, it displays the typical Nazi reaction of extending personal attacks beyond the individual to family members. Even on this thread, I don't think anyone has ever stooped so low.

You are correct on one thing, it is a waste of bandwith to continue to trade barbs with you. So now that you have sufficiently displayed your true character to Jackson and this board, I'll take Boxcc's lead and no longer respond to your heartless, vicious, and cruel attacks.

Hiel Otto and his fourth Reich!

XS

Hey, Xsailor, I'm not surprised to learn you don't have a daughter after all. I should have doubted that any woman would ever deign to have sex with you if you didn't pay her to.

Terrible things about those rumors floating around about you and your daughter. Next time I will come back to you to get the straight dope before I repeat those things. As we all know you're always more than willing to offer up information when requested. My only question is why you seem to know so much about where to find the local he-she SWs. Did you learn to enjoy getting pounded in the back door during all those months you were out floating on a tin can?

Well, live and let live I say, there's no accounting for taste.

Anyway, happy mongering, Xsailor.

-Uncle Otto

Well, at least it's completely clear at this point that [i]no one[/i] in the future can viably take the high ground when complaining about personal attacks on other members.

OttoGraham, TrashMan, and Xsailor:
I take it a negotiated peace settlement is out of the question?!

NC Hunter:
I agree with your 4/22 post concerning Catire!

Let me be VERY clear here. Do NOT lump me in with ANY particular fellow member or members so asking your question about peace settlement and lumping myself with xSailor and Otto is not appropriate. I have spoken on the matter and consider it closed from my end, period.

I will say this though. Now it is time for me to admonish others on this forum, namely Xsailor and Otto for continuing the asshole ripping. Xsailor, in all fairness, you slammed into Otto and he is defending himself as well as upping the ante with each exchange. It will just continue and spill over into other areas as well as give others the impression that the "disagreement" between Otto and myself is still hot and heavy when I think it is not. Just stop. Let it go. You have more important things to do.
We have more "parties" to attend and you need your strength for them!

Gpiper and JoeZop, one thing about yours truly - I don't typically start an attack on somebody else, but have no compunction about returning fire. I took the high road recently, even took a month off to leave the flamers to their own devices, and it did no good. I learned my lesson.

-Uncle Otto

Joe Zop, you spoke the wisdom of ages when you said that NO ONE can claim to take the high ground anymore.

Xsailor, I have to agree with Trashman on this, just let the shit go. The trading of venom is poisoning the entire board. We are all supposed to be here to share info with our 'Brother' mongers.
Clearly Otto is a man of principle and will not back down from a fight. If you attack, not only will he return in kind, but he will relentlessly keep attacking until you surrender. (Don't get me wrong Otto, I respect that.) I respect never backing down from a fight, but there comes a time when for the greater good of all you have to let some shit slide. So, I hope the two of you come to a cease-fire agreement also.

Box,
Just a minor point of clarification if you don't mind. There are many men of high principles here on this board and I consider myself one of them.

As for surrender, that word is simply not in my vocabulary. I simply decided that the effort required to keep up a verbal battle with Otto or anyone for that matter is simply not worth my time as well as being poisonous to the forums. I chose merely to declare a truce for the good of all with the express understanding that I will do what I wish as he will as he wishes, but without crapping on each other as that will only re-ignite the flames. In other words, as far as I am concerned, we have agreed to disagree and drop it. That's still where I stand today. That is a LONG way from a surrender by any stretch of the imagination.

Trashman, sincere apologies. I did not mean to imply that you surrendered. You simply called a cease-fire to the hostilities. Like I said, for the greater good of all, you decided to end the back and forth bullshit. I am grateful for that, as are many other members here. I was just pointing out to Xsailor that Otto was not going to quit unless he did to. So, it would be best to just cease and desist now!

I think the problem here is that we are all too damn much alike! Too many Alpha Males running around trying to assert themselves! When you get right down to it, we all have the same self-confidence, same hobby and same desire to talk about our conquests. That's why we are all here in the first place. So, it stands to reason that we view things very similarly. We don't run from a challenge or a fight. We never give up or never surrender. That's why nobody wanted to let go of the issue. Everyone thought that they were right and were not going to give up until the other admitted they were wrong. But, everyone here knows that no one on this board would admit to being wrong! lol.

That is why I want to congratulate you Trashman and Otto for finallly burying the hatchet, so to speak and LoveLOS too. As outsiders looking in, many of us here felt that you had very valid points and good arguments. We also felt that you both were wrong in some instances as well. We found it difficult to take sides because you are both well respected members of this forum. I don't want to speak for others, but that is why I started pressuring you both to end this. It wasn't helping anyone. So I am glad that we can all move on.

Now, you can all tell me that I am full of shit! lol.

Boxcc,

you posted:
[quote]But, everyone here knows that no one on this board would admit to being wrong! lol. [/quote]
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

- Atlanta Monger

[quote]Now, you can all tell me that I am full of shit! lol.
[/quote]OK Box, You're full of shit. ;) I mean, a lot of us enjoy reading about assassins, war criminals, perverts and worthless gutter Trashmen. Hell, we should make a movie and sell it for zillions since we have all the right characters, plot twists, and some of the best one-liners ever typed.

And what kind of psycho-gibberish is that ALPHA MALE shit? You really believe that just because most of my monger buddies are business owners, managers, leading salesmen, and executives makes them somehow AGGRESSIVE? Makes me want to go outside and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the property line again so others will know where my territory is...

I distinctly recall seeing a post that Hotlanta Monger wrote that was in error, but he deleted it. But, then again, maybe I'm wrong...

Trashman, Please clarify. By "high principles" do you mean that you like your w-hores to have nice perky tits that stand out well? If so, I completely agree.

High ground, for the purpose of this forum, should be redefined as: 1. a hooker stroll on or or near the top of a hill. 2. A *****house or AMP that is on the top floor of the building. Using one of these definitions, many of us, [i]including LoveLOS[/i], can once again claim to have taken the high ground.

Long live the Enter Complaints about other Members board, where men of good character can insult one another mercilessly without fear of being edited. I haven't been flamed in about a week. Come on, who can whip out a zinger? Anybody got the balls?

LoveLOS

[i]Note: Nothing, absolutely nothing, written in this post is the opinion of the author. No offense to any member was meant in anything said or implied as it was all in good fun and meant completely in levity.[/i]

LoveLOST,

Go [red][deleted by AM][/red] yourself, and the LBFM you rode in on.

- Atlanta Monger

LL, I definitely prefer your definition of the High Ground!

You are also right about there not being any zingers lately! What's up with that? It's getting sickeningly sweet around here lately! Can you feel the love? lol.

BTW, you can mark your territory all you want to, but I still have a bigger dick! lol.

Box, No apologies necessary, please! As far as the lack of zingers goes, I have always made a practice to refrain from such activity unless and until someone's actions or continual dumb questions seem to "warrant" it. I haven't seen many posts that bug me sufficiently to get me to flip the igniter of my flame thrower. Plus, constant zingers makes them get old fast and they lose the effect you're trying to achieve, that of helping another member get his shit together before he makes a bad mistake and gets himself in trouble. That's what my zingers are meant for as far as I am concerned except for those meant to get a rise out of one of my posting buddies.

LL, come on man, get in touch with your feminine side and you too will appreciate the touchy feely psycho babble shit that you're too fuckin' dense to comprehend!

My definition of high principles is making sure you're in a position to be able to keep her head way down when you cum in her throat with your hand(s) on the back of her head. Sitting or standing is best to ensure that you are standing on higher principles.

Atlanta, what is LBFM? I am simply too fuckin' lazy to RTFF or look it up. Besides, half the time I think you have no idea what they mean, but you wanna look cool so you sprinkle your posts with them. We ALL see right through your little ruse, let me tell you.

Trashman,

LBMF=Little Brown Fucking Machine.Get off your [red][deleted by MM][/red]

Oh, that term is now discouraged on the WSG hell,I'm too lazy too explain why!

Oh...NOW I get it, duh! Thanks Meat for educating this old man.

And BTW Box, I meant to mention that your comment to a fellow member about the size of your member reminded me that you left your magnifying glass and tweezers in the bathroom last time you came by.

Thank you AM, Box and Trash, I feel much better now. More natural, somehow (roasted, not burnt). Now that you mention it, a LBFM would be nice to ride about now, and fortunately the dick is just the right size for that tight asian pussy. Trash, are you sure we can't drag your pathetic ass to SEA to try some fascinating oriental herbal cures? Sure beats READING the fucking forum...

Box, with that overgrown unit you probably paid some internet spammer to inflate, I bet you couldn't get laid in Patpong! Unless, of course, Trash isn't kidding about the magnifying glass and tweezers.

OK Trash, I can admire those higher principles also... But as far as my feminine side, nada. Stupid is as stupid does. <wink> I perfer to touch a real female and see what I can do to her feminine [i]back[/i]side. hehehe.

LoveLost

Just like that first day at the beach, huh LL? Glad we could oblige with the masochist treatment, you perv!

I never said I wouldn't take a trip out to SEA, it's just a little tougher these days. Tell ya what, you plan a date and I'll see if a old buddies tale will get me out of the house.

Hah!! I've been waiting for this moment for MONTHS!!

TrashMan wrote:[quote]Atlanta, what is LBFM?[/quote]
RTFF, you lazy motherfucker. You need me to send you instructions on how to use the Forum Search, ferchrissakes? Geez... Fuckin' newbie cocksuckers [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.

- Atlanta Monger

i originally came here to complain about 'the e', but after reading that shit posted below, i'm sitting here lmao!

btw, i definitely don't need a pair of tweezers! a pair of toothpicks works nicely, thank you very much! lol. that's why the oriental girls like me, they already know how to use chopsticks!

trash, i have to agree with am, you are a lazy motherfucker! <grin> i never thought i would see the mighty trashman asking rtff questions!

i guess the love-fest continues!

now, down to business.

jackson, i have run into this "the e' guy before. he likes to stir up as much controversy as possible and bait people into flaming him. i guess he gets off on it.

anyway, i believe that he is pushing the edges of civility by posting about **** girls. i totally agree with freeler, the age of consent laws usually apply to people of the same age. they do not give old farts like me permission to screw really young girls, even if they do consent.

while i understand that most of the activities we discuss here in this forum could be considered illegal in some places. i agree with you that the rule about not discussing **** women should remain in effect. i think this guy should be banned, before he goes to far, as i believe he undoubtably will.

A new day, a new complaint about another member by Boxcc. Heaven forbid he should ever post anything about the subject of finding women for sex.

-Uncle Otto

Unk, you really need, and I hate to say this as I have been trying to not use it without an explanation, RTFFF. Boxx has many, many times given info about finding girls, you just must be too full of your relationship to read the F F first before saying he has no info . And as far a E goes, yes he has been a pain in the A, a laughable member of the PITA committee.
This is not a flame, as all I just said is fact and opinion.

Guess I will need to donate $2 to the benifit and not drink one beer at Brenda's so I can be a special person as you, although I'm sure I cannot reach your level. PWhipped

Damn, am I lost? Trashman, I thought you were friends with Box,LL and AtlMgr, or am I too stupid to see that all this is in fun, do not look here often, but was asked to see about "E". Now I see this flaming, or is it is Jest? All of you guys are very-very valued members here and I enjoy all of you, I hope this is all in Jest. Yes, your friend, PW

Hey, I just RTFFF again, yea, you f---- perverts, keep it up, now I get it, damn, it's terrible to get old and senile, I think I shall just drift into the never never land, no not Mickael's, the world beyond, the one with unlimited Asian virgins and LBFMs, and I do not think this is a derogotory term, but a compliment to a nice blk girl that provides a very good session. Am I wroing again? PW

Skinless, when I die, will you please take up a collection to send me to you part of the world, I cannot think of anything better than to be among those lovley Asian ladies, guess I am too old to go now, wish I had stayed when I was there in the late 60's. Can you send one here so she can take my ashes back there after she f---- me to death, what a way to go, please let me go now. PW

Atlanta Monger, BoxCC, Jackson (alphabetical order as to not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anybody off),

The E wants to go after under 18 yo's and in my opinion is in breach of the posting guidelines and rules set by Jackson during/after the Skinless/******** discussions on the Thailand board.

whipped,
whatever made you think that ll, box, and am were my friends? they are all fags and can kiss my big fish belly white ass with my pants down in the middle of rush hour traffic with a boil on my butt oozing puss!
of course we're friends! they are great guys as long as i can slap 'em around and keep 'em whipped into shape.

i would be honored to party with them anytime, anyplace.

christ box, now i'm gonna hafta put on my asbestos underwear! whew, that was a good one.

and last but not least, am, you can bite me!

see how well i have taught you guys? i am totally impressed by the speed with which you all dispatched these love notes to me!

in all seriousness, jackson, i 2nd or 3rd or whatever the motion that this fellow be at the very least severely chastised by you if not banned outright for seeking to promote **** discussions and sexual activity. his points that legal age of consent does vary from place to place not withstanding, this seems to be one issue that all members seem to be truly united on. i know that i can be a real asshole at times and seriously opinionated, but even i draw the line on this matter. although i hesitate to speak for otto given our past, i am confident that he and i would probably be very united on this issue.

Until somebody posts something [i]verbatim[/i] that this guy posted which is off-the-reservation offensive, count me as one vote AGAINST the nattering nabobs of negativism who demand yet another scalp.

-Uncle Otto

Otto, you can't tell me that you aren't having fun with us Nattering Nabobs! lol.

Yes, I have lodged another complaint. But, I did it in the proper section instead of out on other boards.

I do post about finding girls and other such information, but sometimes I would rather come here and do a battle of wits. But, even that is becoming boring because I hate engaging in a battle of wits with unarmed men! lol. (Just kidding)

I do enjoy sparing with you guys, but I had to make a serious comment about 'The E'. He has started flame wars before in a couple different sections of the board and I just didn't want to see that shit start up again. If you hadn't noticed, I am a peace loving man, and just want everyone to get along! ;-)

BTW, PW, thank you for the defense, but we are just one big happy family now. We can say fuck you to each other and know that we still love one another! lol.

But, we all still reserve the right to come here to the complaints section to rag on each other.

otto,
i think the main problem folks seem to have with this fellow as do i is the seeming promotion of sex with **** girls, despite jackson's very clear rule of noone under 18.
i seem to remember other issues, but admittedly cannot recall the details at this point, so i will stick to the offense at hand.
now, if jackson wants to change the rules, then i have zero problem with this guys posts re. **** girls.

Sheesh, you guys need to get LAID!!!!!

Otto,
You asked that somebody post something [i]verbatim[/i] that this guy posted which is off-the-reservation offensive. Atlanta monger has posted the following in the original section in which it was written. All itallicized words in the quote below are from "The E"
[quote]You have clearly stated your opinion on this matter, yet The E still insists upon discussing sex with girls under the age of 18 -- reference his comments in several posts below:[i]
"If I am attracted to the female, she's the LAC, and she let's me fuck her, I most likely will"
"why turn down perfectly good pussy if it's legal?"
"It's all a matter of opinion. You say 18 and I say LAC, whatever that may be."
"pussy is 'pussy"[/i][/quote]If these sentiments do not bother you, well, I won't say what I think because you would consider it an attack. If these comments do not sway you, I encourage you to read them in the context they were originally written to discover they were not lifted out of context.

Jackson has already weighed in on the very first post before Mr E even wrote most of the above words. He is clearly in violation of forum rules and has disregarded the warning El Jefe has given him.[quote][blue]The existing Forum rules shall remain in effect. There shall be no discussion of any person or persons under the age of 18 on this website.[/blue][/quote]

I realize you have issues with many of those who are weighing in on this matter, but please put them aside, base your opinion on the facts, as opposed to taking the side of the percieved underdog.

Peace,
LoveLOS

PS Chupalmongus - you are right. It's sad when this board is one of the most entertaining on the site... LOL
PSS PW I too agree that LBFM is a term of endearment. We need to get you to SEA also, as the term originated there and basically refers to those LBFMs of the asian persuasian. And yes, I like AM, Trash, Box, and even you, but is is fun to grill your ass occasionally.

Trashman: If you read the Skinless/********* discussion, you will see where Atlanta Monger stands on this issue.If you stand with him and support breaking Thailand's Child Prostitution Laws "fine", but please don't encourage others to as they will get caught. And Thai jails are not nice, especially for kiddy fuckers.

As regards LBFM, this was Zel_da's/SA's invention and helped get him banned at one stage. B stands for brown and not black. It pissed Jackson off and it is a derogatory term. It means these women (rice paddy hookers) are good for only one thing. Those of us who discuss poetry, fine wines and other grand things with them know otherwise.

Here is the link to the discussion thread you mention, skinless -- and you won't find a single post in there by me:

[url]www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1780[/url]

Take your lies and shove 'em.

I am on record on this board as condemning those who promote seeking out girls under the age of 18 for sex.

That said, what I have seen posted by The E, including the very brief quote given a few posts below by LoveLOS, doesn't qualify as promoting under-aged sex.

-Uncle Otto

P.S. And why not go ahead and attack me, LoveLOS? You've never hesitated in the past. Is it because I'm more apt to return fire than The E (whom I must again compliment on his not taking the bait from people trying to provoke him).

No Uncle, your support of E led me to question where you stood, so I thank you for clarifying your stance in a more unequivocal way. While I interpret E's comments differently, still, for the second time in a week we are on the same side of the fence in general principle. Good.

You know I also have a stubby little short fuse and will return fire when provoked, that shit is all well documented on this board. Nonetheless, I have no need, wish or desire to get into it with you for no good reason--and that tiny little PS barb isn't worth a fight.

As a side note, I am enjoying your reports in the NoVA board (on topic and entertaining), I hope we can continue to peacefully co-exist.

Peace,
LoveLOS

PS--
Skinless,
I consider both you and Atlanta Monger good guys, and I honestly cannot find any post where AM is on the wrong side of the Thailands Child Prostiutuion Laws, and I damn sure know Trashman is not in support of that shit either. Thanks for your re-consideration of this matter. -LL

skinless,
i profess great ignorance as to the subject and tone of am's post to which you refer so i can't comment except to say that i am on record in past posts for being pretty much not interested in seeing discussions with **** being portrayed as anything but negative, so i don't think i am in support of breaking thailand's laws or their basic intent. i also very swiftly will jump in someone's shit if i see them posting that crap on the boards i regularly post upon. clear?

For those of you unaware, I discovered on the Letters to the Editor forum a post from Skinless requesting that Jackson terminate his membership.

Now I don't know his whole history, but he must have posted something of value sometime in over 500 posts, didn't he? If so, I hate to see someone like him go for the wrong reasons.

Trashman -

I am sure Skinless posted many things of value. So what? If he wants to terminate his membership, let him go. What are we supposed to do? Protest? Beg him to stay? In his Letter to the Editor, he discusses his reasons. It is clear that he has no tolerance for lesser creatures (like me) and he is apparently unable or unwilling to resist the urge to convince the world that his is the only opinion worthy of consideration when it comes to certain topics.

He's a big boy capable of making his own decisions. Let him go.

I miss him already.

I definitely would not advocate begging him to stay by any means. And, I do not question his right to terminate. Actually, I guess he could have simply done it himself without mentioning here at all. I merely mentioned it here as a passing comment that I thought was worth pointing out.
Mind you, I have not had to put up with him in my "backyard" so perhaps he's really obnoxious and you guys can't stand him. In which case, I would tell me to shut the fuck up and mind my own business which I think is exactly what I should do.

you want to read what imho is pretty borderline ****file oriented stuff although according to the post it took place in this guy's past, but still...? check out milwakhee wisconsin looking for lefty's recent post and tell me if you think that is what jackson refers to when he talks about no under 18 year old discussions.

Skinless has posted tons of things of value and he's posted tons of things that aren't -- same as most posters with lots of activity. He's posted at least 500 additional posts, many also of high value, which he later deleted in prior snits.

But Skinless demanding that Jackson terminate his membership and saying he's never going to do anything on the board again because something's pissed him off is like the swallows returning from Capistrano. It's such a regular occurence you can set your watch by it.

Trashman,

The Rev J.T. Skinless San RIP was the last poster willing and able to share information on the 'unexplored' parts of Thailand.
He also was one of very few who could smell the stench of child abuse and point at the perpetrators - that no action was taken against these kiddyfuckers is not his fault.

Rev J.T. Skinless San RIP.
He will be missed

Just for the record the term LBFM has a long history of usage, and, in my experience, it was generally used as a term of endearment. For many years I had a rich uncle who regularly gave me the opportunity to visit new, and exotic Asian ports and participate in gene sharing exercises with the local population. During the course of those visits, which started when JFK, (a renowned monger in his own right), was in power, I, and many of my friends always looked forward to our next opportunity to sample the customs and delights of new cultures.

While it seemed the destiny of many of my colleagues to end their days commanding a LMD (Large Mahagony Desk), I always aspired to become the Chief LBFM Test Pilot.

Randy

freeler,

i hardly think it accurate to say that anyone is exclusive in their knowledge of and willingness to share that knowledge of anyplace. i also do not see that he or anyone else for that matter has the market cornered on being repulsed by **** activities. i think the great majority of guys here feel the same way and simply do not express it quite as vocally.
give others some credit.

Otto, aren't you proud of me? I haven't complained about anyone or anything in almost 5 days!

Box, you ass kisser!

Box was just away for the week. Get back to work you lazy shit-can, ther has got to be somebody you can whine about...
{grin}

-LL

There is a certain individual who posts in the New England area (Ma, Me, RI and NH) who is a blantant BS artist. I find his posts to be works of pure fiction. Scenerios he creates are worthy of Hollywood. I think this guy is misleading, thus creating a dangerous situation for anyone who looks to his posts for direction. Am I not alone in seeing this? Fellow NE Mongers, if you know what I am saying, without naming names, please sound off. If no one comes forward, than I will be silent. As a experienced monger, I find this shamefull.

Boston Monger,

There are always gonna be "wannabees" out there who make shit up and then think that were too fucking dumb that we won't see the real. It's fucking corny and a goddamn shame!.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Trying to avoid looking like a piler-onner is useless I guess, but, IMHO, he's certainly no the only one guilty of this particular "crime". There's a whole lot of fiction going on, always has been, always will be. Luckily, I think that the Good Lord bestowed pretty good Crap Detectors to a select group.

Trashman,

Yes there are plenty who "embellish". But this guy "makes up". It's bad when you follow his posts and end up empty handed, but someday, someone might end up on the wrong side of LE or worse. This board has enabled me to cruise areas I had no idea about and to succeed in my quests. To twist stories and information is just downright wrong. Remember, it's not all about scoring, but the hunt. I would rather gleen information about an area than what someone "scored". Bad recon is dangerous.

Well I cannot argue that logic at all and completely agree.I thought we were talking about guys that claimed to be fucking when they were in fact not. I didn't realize it extended to providing false recon type info. That really could put somebody's ass in a bad place. Any guy doing that should be burned big time.

I can't stand this happy horseshit he's putting out!. A score EVERYDAY? Yah oooook!

Meatman, TrashMan, and Boston Monger

This section is "Enter Complaints about other members" so if you want to complaint about someone at least have the balls to name the member and stop pussy footing around.

Sexreview

SexReview,

I wanted to be sure before naming him. Others have e-mailed me and confirmed what I thought. I did this, avoided naming him, so as not to be seen as being jealous, staging a personal attack or just being vicious. But now I can name him, and I ask others who have e-mailed me or agree with me to chime in.

Bill Buxton is the monger in question.

Can there be any doubt?

Why don't you guys meet this person and tell him he can't score this much?? He might give you good old boys some pointers to sharpen your games? He might offer to even buy you a piece along with the one or two he gets!!! Or do you guys not take hand outs?? This mystery man so he is, might make some people uneasy because of his ability. Or his vast mongering all over the great country of ours. Sounded like the new lady on the board said a fue nice things about his recon of a posted area! My 2 cents are this sounds like some guys couldnt get laid in a whoooowa house and there mad. So lets hammer on this guy that gives good info and f--- up his day. Why don't you ask him to let you ride with him and he can show all the tricks to all the great mongers that talk about him. After all we could all sharpen our games from time to time.

And as far as this trash talking BM goes you do not know much about mongering do you! You can hit an area and see 5-6 girls and in ten minutes never see another the rest of the night. Thats the game we all take a chance and this other guy had some bad nights too. Just read back over the winter 2-3 hundred miles and no ass.



BB...

Sex Review,
Please do not lump me in with others in your post in that I have no idea who any of these guys is talking about, I was merely voicing an opinion of my thoughts on anybody doing that, regardless of who.

Before a real nasty little war breaks out on the Washington DC Board between Otto and MotorBack, I would like you guys to review the latest few posts and tell me if you agree that Jackson's rules are being hammered by some of the rather personal attacks I see there or am I nuts?

I am not got to even begin to tear into your posts. I'd be glad to meet you and see you work your "magic" in person. What says you?

Trashman, I agree with you, it looks like the personal attacks are flowing freely in DC, but I still think you are fucking nuts anyway!

Can you feel the love? lol.

The search function is a great thing. Using it I discovered that 7 out of Boxcc's last 21 posts concerned his various complaints about other members. :-)

-Uncle Otto

I would like to complain about MY member, it is way too small and gets me in lots of trouble.

Sheesh, don't you guys have anything better to do???????

Chupa,
A voice of reason! Thank you

I would also like to complain about Chuponalgas' member - it's way too small and gets me in lots of trouble.

Otto, I am so proud of you! I see that you are learning how to count now! I am so impressed!

And, yes I agree, the search function works quite well. May I further point out the a full 12 of your last 25 posts mention nothing about finding sex and several launch personal attacks including asking if a member is getting his HIV cocktail supplied to him. So as to your sanctimonious, pusillanimous, hysterical attacks on others on this board, they are starting to bore me.

Oh, so you won't have to look those big words up, I said that your remarks are hypocritical, cowardly and ill-conceived. You hide behind the anonymity of this board and feel free to attack and berate other members while doing the same thing yourself.

Yes I have posted a lot on the complaints board, but if you would care to read the posts instead of just fucking counting them, you might become enlightened enough to realize the most of the posts are just playful banter between friends. Occasionally, there are a few barbs or comments thrown in. I have learned that Jackson would prefer we do that sort of thing in this area instead of out on the other boards. Unfortunately, you seem to ignore those wishes and attack on any board your choose. A true friend of Jackson would honor that, but you sir have no honor!

I plan to continue to play until Jackson tells me that I can't. I will not try to please you at all, ever! So, fuck off!

Chuponalgas,

If you think your member is too small what about this: I think my member is far too small for some women and far too big for others. Tell me what I should do.

Admin: Please do something about the Otto-Boxcc row and other rows going on here! It reduces the signal-to-noise ratio.

Brownout,

Although you did not seek my counsel regarding your member problem, I will offer this one suggestion, since your "too large/too small" issue sounds complex.

Have you tried prayer?

I was just being sarcastic.

And I was just making a joke (perhaps not very funny, but a joke nonetheless.)

LJ

Jackson:
A member named Johny Razkal with 0 posts is angrily harassing me in my PM inbox because I won't provide him with the phone # of a hot provider in Fort Lauderdale! I have given out many phone #'s upon request before, but I make it a policy to draw the line with anyone with 0 posts. I told him not to contact me again, but he won't stop!

"we need to ban you, man!!!!
Hey Ho_Chaser(exactly...)
Firstly, fuck-wad, I personally wrote that to you and the other shit-for-brains morons out there.
Secondly, I'd like to start a movement to ban you, my poor little femme-fatale(that's French for douchebag). You, who are so weak that you can't stand a bit of criticism, a kick in your ridiculously unevolved butt.
Grow up, ass-hole!!
All the best,
Tooth Ferry"

Jackson,

I received the above PM from some moron named Tooth Ferry. I saw his name on the Banned Users Hall of Shame and I am wondering how he got back to the forum? Please let's get rid of this trash permanently. Thanks.

I also got a PM from Tooth Faggot. Some BS about fucking Russian women who were manipulated by Yugoslavians or some bullshit like that. I've managed to manipulate a "Russian" on a SW or two in my town. All of whom got treated well by me and got paid. I'm an American, and too fucking myopic to give a shit about Russian women or Yugoslavian pimps. I've got enough to worry about dealing with the sewer rats and LE where I live.

received from tooth ferry
"time to evolve into men, little ladies!!!!
you guys are really nothing but a bunch of little fairies(not like in ferry), fems, poor excuses for real men, evolved human beings, thinking and compassinate people.
i'm not gonna waste time here enlightening you jerk-offs(i'm sure you ass-holes are pretty used to that, all considered).
check out my two letters to various members about the reality of most of the so-called prostitution that's going on out there. the two letters are posted very conveniently on wsg's banned users hall of fame list - page one. just go to table of contents and click on banned users.....it ain't difficult. i'm accused of being an idiot, a hate-monger, etc. why would i waste my time?!? jackson and other members are pathetically delusioned - psychologically and emotionally ill. what i've said in the letters comes from highly respected, well-researched documents. many have been discussed and authenticated by united nations committees and members, other world organizations well-known for their work in the related fields.
victor malarek's recent publication "the natashas" - the new global sex trade is a mind-blowing bombshell that will convince even morons like you of the horrors and evil that are being perpetrated on the young women and girls who you are abusing(knowingly and unknowingly - but now you know!!!).
wake up guys - i don't hate any of you! i was something of alot of you a few years ago, believe me i know!!!!
nobody is saying don't go out and buy sex, but open your eyes. most of the russian speaking girls who many of you have gotten to know in recent years are completely demoralized - their will and spirit long ago snapped by brutal mobsters, mainly in the old yugoslavia, serbia(belgrade mainly) imprisoned in the breaking-grounds, where they are completely humiliated, broken, beaten, raped repeatedly, sold-off like pieces of meat and living in horror, usually terrified of even going to the corrupt cops who operate in many destination countries like greece, israel, turkey, and even in western europe and north america.
do yourselves a favour now! grow up, get a life, and try to do something good!
like steven seagal says in out for justice, "be a nice guy!"
tooth ferry

NYC Expat -

I received the exact same PM from Tooth Ferry. What a dick!

LJ

I received the same PM from The Tooth Fag. Jackson please ban this guy, he goes against everything this site stands for!

We keep assuming Tooth Ferry is a guy. his (or her) e-mail addy is beckybucktooth@yahoo.ca
Becky, I've got something that'll knock those buck teeth out for ya. Then you can put 'em under your pillow for the real Tooth Ferry. Okay sweetie?

Tooth Fag is a guy based on his writing style from his last PM to me. He definitely cusses like a dude. Crazy motherfucker needs to get his ass kicked bigtime. He's talks a lot of shit and talks big typing and hiding behind his computer.

I suspect that the Russian (or Eastern European, for that matter) mail order bride he married used to be a sex provider ho somewhere in Europe. Now, he gets off spewing this bullshit to us here once he discovered that his new wife used to provide sex for money to mongers like us. This old fart and desperate man is just a bitter motherfucker. LOL.


P.S.
Tooth Faggot - Just for your own info (if you're still following this forum), the last Russian girl I fucked voluntarily flew to Malta, requested a tourist visa, and was not coerced by anyone. Olga is there on her own accord. She came from Rostov and is currently in Malta to earn some money and belongs to no pimp. Also, by the high quality of her BBBJTC's and enthusiatic fuck sessions, I assumed that she also enjoys her work. In fact, several of those Russian and Eastern European girls had been to Malta and the rest of Western Europe on multiple occasions trying to earn good money. So, fuck you, pal.

Ciao, motherfucker.

Guys, guys, guys,

I simply passed that pm on to Jackson and he banned the moron without delay.
Please do us all a big favour and don't waste anymore bandwidth on him - he's not worth it.

Now that he is gone, I kinda miss Tooth Fairy...

Jackson,

I think Sexmania is not long for this forum. Of 17 total 'reports', only four early ones contained any information (and 2 of those were info from 2002).

His last 11 posts have all been very combative and inflamatory, with the last two requiring editing by you for violations of forum policies.

Three strikes and you're out?

Regards,
Atlanta Monger

Florida Buyer is just a waste of bandwidth. His keeps referring to his boarderline gay pleasures of having his ass licked and fingered. All this without actually providing information that is useful to hobbyists. The only thing keeping from being totally gay is that he claims his pleasure is for women to probe him and hasn't, as of yet, mentioned a dude doing it yet. His posts make me sick!

Hate to say it Rolly Polly, but prostrate massage and Asian/analingus seem to be a regular part of the AMP experience for some of the guys. Different strokes, if its part of a report on an SP I think Florida Buyer is just exercising a monger's right to exploring what erogoneus zones he gets off on- with a LADY of course. I think revealing the identities of ladies who indulge in this is a service, their locations and rates is all a part of the review process.

Jackson even has a forum devoted to 'anal conisouers' for that matter. Maybe directing Florida Buyer that way would be helpful.
(If, on the other hand, he is doing this for the sole purpose of disrupting the newsgroup in an insulting/ derogatory manner, than by all means he ought to be on the banned user list).

Thanks Warpig for the points. You'll have to see his posts to decide whether they are derogatory or not. He did start by reporting about girls at first, but now he seems to just be reporting about his desires and not providing valuable information for us to glean from. He also seems to constantly bad-mouthing a senior member. He has even had an entire post deleted by the Moderator before.

All of his Florida Buyer's posts on the Fort Lauderdale and Broward County, Florida boards speak mostly of prostate glands and rimming and licking of bunholes! He has never even mentioned AMPS, just his personal desires and his sick opinion that if other men don't like what he does that there's something wrong with them! His remaining posts on the board, many of which have already been deleted by Jackson have contained personal attacks, insults and homosexual taunts towards other members who don't condone his sexual tendencies.

Jackson:

I agree with Atlanta Monger. In reviewing the posts by Sexmania, it seems he is not someone who has any interest in being a part of this "Forum" community. It almost seems as if he is testing you, to see how far you will let him go.

Either way, he brings a lot of negative energy to the Forum.

LJ

P.S. I just read a post from Sexmania that contains personal attacks on me. I now want to strengthen my objections to him and ask that he be banned.

i think chris h in columbus should be baned.

jackson, all i told this guy was most women out here charge more then 10 dollars and he has not stop attacking me. he has ataacked me in the columbus forum and akron forum. i believe in freedom of speech but when i catch someone out here lying i tell them about it. and with these visiouse attacks i have no choice but to defend myself. so please either ban this guy or at the least get him to let up on the attacks.

Hey Jackson,

There is no reason for any type of ban for me, because I was attacked first. Like I said before, I am not going to argue with a little kid about how much a SW charges in C-Bus, just because he does not believe what I type, does not mean that I am lying. I said it before, I don'e have to prove nothing to nobody, meaning I have no reason to lie.

Also, to catch someone lying, would mean that he personally aske d the girl if I recieved service for $10 or what ever amount, and she says no that did not happen. So no one was caught in any type of lie.


Chris H

I feel Criet should be banned in the Rhode Island board. He not getting SW, he getting college girls and regular girls like in coffee shops or food markets. Read his postings not too many about SWS or AMPs.

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Jackson do other posters get messages from this creep?

[quote]FreakFunk wrote on 06-12-04 12:57:
it never fails to amase me how fat bastards like you pay these thai girls for sex, its taking advantage of their poor economic system, exploiting them. How disgusting it must be for them to get fucked of a man who doesn't have the desency to keep fit, wear fashionable clothes, not like those glasses your wearing. It's vile, a fat sweaty old man like yourself.[/quote]

As a vile, sweaty, fat old man I take great offense! ;)

If a member gets a bad PM, mightn't it be better just to use the "Report this PM" function key rather than calling attention to the person by repeating his nonsense on the main board?

Just a thought.

-Uncle Otto

Southpaw should be banned :

For sending these out via PM

Southpaw wrote on 06-12-04 00:23:

Fuck you asshole

Dear Jackson

Thank you for my expresso upgrade. (I am also big into expressos and cappucinos as well as pizzas: Italy rules in the kitchen as well as the bedroom and soccer fields).

I cannot help but notice several people were opposed to my upgrade. For the record:

1. I flamed nobody: Thai prostitutes are the bottom of Thai society. They are the dregs of Thai society in other words.
2. Posters should be aware of that. If not, they should RTFF, including some recent, well written posts by some regular members: these are in the Thai Women section where they belong.
3. Guys like Freeler are into price discovery. That should be one of the man aims of this site. It does not mean we have to like the women Freeler likes. It means we have to ask why can he fuck a woman for 400 bt that other guys pay 4,000 bt to fuck. It does not mean he is right and they are wrong. It means they have some self analysis to do.
4. Some pizza lovers have asked to meet me. If you are cool and are not a basher, that is fine. If you are a bs artist, one who talks the talk, sorry, not interested. No offence but my mongering addiction comes first.
5. The only guys with moral monetary authority within the context of the forum are Jackson and Saint. That is because we have seen the colour of their money. We know they are men of substance and property. The rest of us are cartoon characters until proven otherwise.
6. Because SA is a regular member, it is particularly nasty to attack him. He has an imortant take. A reality check, as it were.
7. This thread is about complaining about other members. I would like to complain about

a. Jackson: Please do not encourage guys to eat steaks late at night. If you and your BA mob find steaks help you perform certain physical deeds, please pass on the information. Needless to say we prefer pizzas and pastas for late night jobs.
b. Saint: If you think a very rich Peruvian lady will marry you, you don't know Jack S**t buddy. They will be kind to you, practice their English with you but their class did not get to be so rich by spreading their legs for passing guerros. Mind you, you may be in their financial league. But you are not one of them. (unless you are scion of a Texan oil billionaire)

8. Finally off to Vietnam in a few minutes. I will post relevant details. As this is gearing up to be a highly successful business trip, don't expect too many details on the dregs:(. Rather it will be a Saint like romp, full of beauty, poignacy and innocence. With a few pizzas thrown in:D

9. So thanks Jackson and bon voyage. Armed with my new senior member status, I am off to conquer new cooks:) BTW Saint: the Vietnamese make better French food than the French. You will like Vietnam. And hopefully my reports as much as I like yours.

Domino

Domino,

Congratulations to your senior membership.

Let me comment on one single piece of your below post:

"Thai prostitutes are the bottom of Thai society. They are the dregs of Thai society in other words."

As you know the world is ruled by markets, and the prostitution market in Thailand is one (small) part of it. The girls sell their bodies, the guys give money. If a deal can be made the deed is done.

From this point of view both contract partners are somehow on the same level, one is delivering the body, the other delivers the money. If you consider the Thai prostitutes as "dregs of the Thai society", then a potential customer must consider himself as "dregs if the society", too. There is no supply without demand.

Furthermore that sentence shows an clear lack of knowledge about Asian (and Thai) culture and womens socialization.

Giotto

[QUOTE]Gpiper - or more like Gaypipeblower

Please stop sending me suggestive PM's. I'm neither gay or bisexual. I do not want you nor do I want to meet you.[/QUOTE]


This is a quote from Southpaw on the Ft. Lauderdale boards. I recommend he gets banned for bashing and accusing a senior member of being gay and soliciting him.

Giotto,

Facts are facts.

Fact is that prostitutes in Thailand are the bottom of Thai society. Anyone who goes with them automaticly reduces himself to their social class.
He who goes with the lowest is the lowest himself.
MP girls, gogo girls, bargirls, streetgirls: Only a fool thinks that one is of a higher social class than the other.
Only a liar tells himself that going with a gogo girl is of higher social standing than going with a streetgirl.
And liars are the lowest of them all.

Domino,

Go fuck'em!

"It does not mean he is right and they are wrong."
Sorry old chap, but you are wrong and I am right:D!

Here I am writing my 383rd post and I realize I've never written a complaint against another member. This is not to say that I've never witnessed any stupidity, received an inappropriate PM, or been flamed myself, but I've just never felt the need to complain.

What the hell is wrong with me???

I noticed just doing a quick count that the top ten posters in this thread have logged 175 posts averaging 17.5 complaints apiece.

I guess I just ponder the rationale of belonging to a board where you let people get under your skin everyday and let them upset you. It's always been my philosophy that when you let someone get you angry you are letting them win.

Thanks for letting me state my opinion and thanks to Jackson for doing a great job. Hopefully (depending on the number of flames I get for this post) I will have another 383 posts where I can write information about the hobby which may occaisionaly prove useful to someone.

Happy Hunting!

Civ2000

Freeler,

I 've read you post, but - I don't understand what you want to tell me.

Giotto

Giotto,

Do I really have to waste more time on this :(?

It means that [red]YOU[/red] show a "clear lack of knowledge about Asian (and Thai) culture and womens socialization."

Or you would have thought: "Yep, Domino's right."

Freeler,

I am impressed that you know the "facts".

Giotto

Brethren,

FYI, if you too are annoyed and distracted by flamers, try my "flame repellant" strategy. It always works since they often are unable to comprehend the real intent.

Here is an example:

[quote]
Brethren: My apologies to you for enduring this senseless diatribe.

arecho66,

I acquiesce; my mistake, you're right on all points. Considering your writing precision and emotional conviction, it must be frustrating communicating with an illogical imbecile. Certainly you must be exhausted by creating, then quoting comments, [u]I never made[/u]. For that I am truly sorry. In the future, instead of conferring with associates at the Hoover Institute, I will consult you on all matters of geopolitics. As recommended; I will cease all research on location mongering and look for another job (?), upon my return to the States. [b][i][red]Flame Retardant[/b][/i][/red]

For the moment, however, I have another hot chica to negotiate -- all else must wait.
[/quote]
Hope it helps.

I agree with the complaints about James D 2004 on the Las Vegas board.

Rather than providing useful information or commentary, he prefers to write lengthy and boring fiction, perhaps provoking an argument, so he can write yet another response.

IMHO, we don't need this member. Recommend removing his posts, cleaning up the board.

Turbo

I have to echo the Complaints about James D 2004. His posts are not even related to the board on which he is writing, provide no useful information or commentary, and are ridiculously long. The are just poorly written accounts of his "adventures" with women who cannot even be identified. The only thing I could determine from his last post was that it did NOT happen in Vegas.

Dr. Monger

thanks admin for the opportunity, now i have to answer complains against me, haven't i?

only 2 complains against 1 (me) so far? anyway, let me refute one by one.

macgoo amused me. on one hand he favors his own "flame repellent" strategy. on the other hand, he failed to follow his own strategy on me. he used many words just to say that i'm insane. does this sound like a flame repellent strategy to you? at least he is self-contradictory to me. calling someone insane, which is highly subjective without backing up facts, and not expecting to get a refute?

while on the subject of his flame repellent strategy, he is a typical 'loser intellectual' as considered in some cultures. see that when he presents some facts or some comments, he added an intellectural twist so that he thinks the receiver doesn't get it, and that i suppose some other reads don't get it. i simply think that even if it works, he is running away from any debate. he is ignorant in that nowadays you just paste that english in an online free translator, turn it into say japanese and turn it back into english. if it doesn't make sense then use the free dictionary word by word. in any case it's a complete waste of his time. if you can type it in 10 sec, why do it in 20 sec? i'm sure he can do other things well but making things difficult to read when the content is simple and straightforward, i can think of several things he can't do - political speech, script writer, best seller. with his attitude i don't even think he read poetry, where the whole sequence of words make the poetry, not the extensive use of as many 'difficult' words as possible.

in addition, he is obviously retarded, the reason being that he couldn't follow jackson's introduction to lodge complain against other members in the 'complain against other members' section. as for my sanity, i don't think that i need to reply, as there's no such reference in the posting guideline. and do i know if i'm insane or not? (philosophical, isn't it?) if you are interested to know, i can refer you to members like joe zop, dickhead, ottograham etc. but don't ask them any opinions other than sanity.

late night asked me to remove my posts twice without obvious reasoning. i find it hard not to point out his dubious credibility. i already quoted one of his post in the vegas board, which cannot be true whoever read that, and there's no obvious excuse to post that. in addition, he spread rumors in the santa monica board that an mp is closed, which proved otherwise. he even faked a photo to present as evidence that the mp is closed.

as for several members who referenced my posts, 2 never posted in the vegas board this year, 1 of which probably never posted there. another 1 made his 1st ever post right after my posts in question. i don't feel that they are a part of the vegas community to take them seriously.

now for the repetitive 'complains':

writing style, language artifacts - i have good length debates with other members before. the bottomline is that these artifacts are not part of the posting guideline. i can point you to some other posters, whose posts will open your eyes. also i would like to add that i often skip something that some members don't need me to be explicit, while others find it hard to understand without those. it's just a matter of saving effort, and that if i include all the materials without skipping some, it will be a lot longer. so for members who don't comprehend my writing, either because of the style and language, or the content, please skip it. what's the complain?

for the two long posts in question, it was stated in every one that the thread is a continuation of the thread, that "vegas was the last place on earth to meet working girls". not only that this is a relevant subject that no one complained before, my thesis can be supported by others. i can point out that some members from different parts of the us who thinks their home turfs are better. as for the locals, what is against them are the many tourists. and many thinks that the usa is about the worst in the world to meet working girls.

what evidence can i provide that i can back up my arguments? of course encounters that happen elsewhere! so it is stupid to complain that those encounters doesn't happen in vegas? my two long reports provide comparisons with those reports on vegas. it's another angle that i think very few previous posts covered. there are many posts that support what i said, that vegas is full of one night stands with hit and miss results, and that you can find the same or better things elsewhere.

long? not useful? there are many longer reports. anyway my posts attempt to address some difficult concepts to back up my opinion - deeper connection in the client-provider relationship and what's the good in it. the length and content are what i think most appropriate for the purpose. if i failed my own purpose i don't apologize, it's difficult. this girl's is a gem in her conversation, so i think it's more interesting to capture her dialog directly. and also it's easiest to write without writing summaries over the actual dialogs.

is it true? of course it is, it's in the posting guidelines! you can try to find some false information in my 500+ posts. the persons involved in the two reports are all real, and you can find them in my previous posts, pictures included! i don't want to involve their id directly here because at least one girl has a portable and read wsg! can a person can be fictitious when, as one member claimed, at least 50 people has her phone number? and some more who wanted to get it. as to what happened behind close doors, hard for me prove it, but what did i post that are really out of the ordinary? double and the other entrance? how about calling her yourself? you can have good sex, fun sex, or not so good sex, not so interesting sex. it's all sex after all. if there's any bit that you don't believe, you have to point it out and let me convince you.

btw, it just happened that the last time i called her she was in vegas. don't bank on it because she was supposed to show me her dc ticket departure time when i agreed to meet her one more time. i was supposed to do the vegas board a favor by tipping her whereabouts. a guy mentioned her every time in his post since she was gone.

james d (senior wsg member, phd, bsc)

James D

Out of respect, I often read other's full account to get a sense of their adventure. Reading your Vegas post was a challenge that left me exhausted and frustrated. The comments I made afterwards were not mean spirited or vicious, merely a reaction. My apologies if you took it that way.

Now, I have tried to read your defense posted here. I realize that I am not the sharpest knife, and may even be the "loser intellectual", but I still don't get it -- in spite of my good faith efforts. Perhaps someone else can draw me a picture!!

James D's post in this section is prime evidence why lawyers often advise defendants to avoid taking the stand in their own defense. Right here he has basically proven our case (the case made by several Vegas section posters) that the length of his postings far exceed any value they contain. Like his Vegas posts, this one rambles on forever. No one can understand what he's saying -- is he writing in English or is this code? I'm quite serious when I say that that James D ought to make mental health counseling a higher priority right now than posting on WSG.

Nothing that has been cited as a complaint against James D violates posting guidlines. Before requesting that Jackson take the time to ban a member it's probably a good idea to check the guidlines to see if you are stating a reason that actually violates the rules.

in james d's defense, i would like to submit that his ff or full french, 64-dollar manicure, going-to-washington-dc girl is the one wsw in the orange county, california section named logan. of course, you'd have to be an avid reader of the socal boards and be able to piece lots of rep001tered clues together to get to what jd is actually talking about. she is definitely a looker but why jd doesn't just tell people that is a mystery to me. i actually believe he dropped over a grand to f*ck with those 2 nice frenchies. come one, guys. give the mystery man a break. ;-)

civ,

i don't know what the hell is wrong with you either! };-)

peace

Also in Jimmy D's defense. I agree with Rolly, JD2004 violated no rules. Leave the poor bastard alone and skip his posts if you don't like reading him.

The Vegas stories were somewhat amusing if you could get past the writing style. I agree with others, including Jackson (see Vegas board 7/6/04), that the cryptic style and length is annoying, but still they take no more bandwidth than the 20-or-so one-line complaints that are the basis of this thread.

Despite his attempt at justification, those posts really should have been posted in some Southern California board rather than Vegas. IMH(BA)O.

Civ2K,
Damn, you are [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Actually, no offense intended, as I wanted to contribute a free flame to you since you were expecting one. Damn that felt good. And I guess there is not much wrong with you (other than aforementioned) since you have figured out this is a fantasy world so there is no reason to give a flying fuck what anybody writes here. I wrote this post so that I would be above average, with 18 posts in this section. [LOL]

Mikey8K,
Could it not be presumed that most of us here should consider counseling? We are one fucked up lot...

LoveLOS

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the WSG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any [u]personal attacks or derogatory comments[/u] directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.[/blue][/size]

jackson

could you kindly sort out the trolls on the thai board?
1. the traveller is a constant offender, forever in spats with other members. his serial abuse of **** women has already been noted and criticised at great length. he is continuing to make unfounded allegations against other members to mask or cloak his own criminality. he deliberately went in and annoyed the hell out of sa with his bs. you, of ocurse, are well able to sort out sa or anyone else. you certainly dpo not need help from the "king of the photo section". how sad it is to have nothing more to one's name than to be a king of a remote corner of a remote virtual board.
2. old thai hand: this guy believes interpol agents hang around with low life like himself. he lives in a dangerous fantasy world. like the traveller, he also seems to have a fondness for women under the legal age or at least girls dressed up in schoolgirls' uniforms. his information telling us where sick information is available is a violation of the site's rules as it means he is pushing another site (just like the traveller tells us how to score children without getting caught). <b> old thai hand is also a direct threat to you as, if left unpunished, he will only encpourage otehrs to bear threats on you. </b>
3. their chorus, many of whom might be merely posting under different names. probably for your next big job, you could get ip addresses to print out in sequence and query multiple names posting from the same ip address.

again, i realise these losers need somewhere to hang out but they spoil it for everyone else.

i don't see most of them contributing much positive to the board. i understand how samus aran has pissed you off on more than one occasion. however, samus aran has not broken any thai law that i am aware of. others, most notably the traveller, have, and in very serious ways. i don't think these losers have much to offer. maybe confine them, sexreview and the rest of the crew to their own section. maybe give them the vacant samus aran section. at any rate, please corral them in somewhere so the serious mongers do not have to wade through their bs every single time.

ps: the nana is still good value. i never made it to your tailor's. i am in korat now, far away from the losers. it looks like the train has eased off. time for some isaan food.

I respectfully second domino's complaint over The Travelers behavior. It seems that he's not content to be a critic in SE Asia and has brached out into the China board. It's not just that he's perpetually negative, the problem is that he contribute nothing of value and. He seems content to be an airchair critic when it comes to the postings of other members.

Regards,

HH

At the risk of being accused of being an hypocrite my previous logon name was jackssmirk and I submited various detailed reports in Beijing and Qingdao.

Cheers

I dropped in here to complain about the Traveler, and, find his reputation preceded me.

First and foremost, he's an acknowleged Kiddie Fucker and, along with Old Thai Hand, encourages others to follow his lead.

Second, he continually seeks to pick arguments. I don't read the China boards, so I'll take Hoser Hater's word for it. Check out the main Thai boards, and, on any given page within the last couple months, there's a better than even chance that there'll be posts in which Traveler is arguing with someone.

Jackson,

This isn't a complaint about any specific member.

The Whole Thailand section is being consumed by squabbles and petty politics.

As you know, I briefly got drawn into that nonsense. A sound, reasoned response by you to one of my political posts made me take a step back and analyse why I participate in this forum.

I think that your intervention in said squabbles on the Thailand section, involving all parties, would be very timely.

Sorry if this comes across as telling you to do your (unpaid) job but I see a section of the forum that I value most highly, and the reputations of a lot of good posters in said section, being tarnished by the destructiveness that is going down there.

Regards,

Terry Terrier

Hoser Hater

I never ever posted anything at the China forum. A quick search of the forum database will reveal this immediately.
So why do you accuse me of doing so ?

Please do not confuse me with "Traveler Tom" and post the complete ID of the one you want to complain against.

Thanks

domino and purplengold

a fellow member of this forum told me to have a look in here, cause you are posting false accounts against me.
i see it's true.

i have ignored yours, freeler's and bill's attacks for several months believing that you would silence down sooner or later. in vain. you keep constantly calling me names and call me a "kiddyfucker" on any given occasion. just read below. this is against the forum rules and defined as spam.

jackson has set up a zero tolerance rule after the lengthy discussion with skinless and others. back then he already decided what my aim was and that it didn't breach the forum rules. some of you were either deliberatly misunderstanding my intent, or they were just looking for an excuse to start an argument, or both. and you kept going on, even after jackson ordered a ceasefire.

before you question my behaviour you should question yours and check if you are breaching the forum rules or if it is according to them.

you should be the one reported to jackson because you constantly break the forum rules and are looking for trouble. but i am not a coward like you and run to jackson to ban you. if you do not like the questions i raise then answer them only once or shut up. at least i refrain from personal attacks and bad language but you totally lack of self control and believe that insults are a substitute for arguments.

just have a look at your post below. you make unfounded allegations and claim that everyone who's opinion differs from yours must be a ****. attacking old thai hand, sexrevew and other unnamed members. a single post of these two has more information than a hundred of yours. what valuable info have you provided to the forum besides a recipe for a pizza ? you don't even respect the oldest of all rules in the internet, the nettiquette. finally you aren't even ashamed to suck up to jackson by talking about his tailor. that's really poor.

i am tired of your constant attacks towards me but i won't give up to defend myself. i tried to keep silent but you didn't. now it's on you to hold the ceasefire. if you want to silence me, just stop your insults. easy as that.

the traveler

i stand corrected! i came to the "enter complaints about other members" page because traveler tom seemed to be starting a flame war over ****d girls in the china section. when i saw the top complaint was directed to the traveler i jumped the gun and complained about the wrong person. honest mistake. i apologize.

jackson, fill free to remove the first post. if you like you can remove this one or keep it up as a warning to others that one should be careful when calling foul.

regards,

hh

The Traveler

Hey

Got something about my angelic postings?

Please clarify if you do not want to be 'confused' with me - I am not too sure if I want to be 'confused' with you!

TT

Traveler Tom

I do not know you, never read any of your posts. Therefore I have no idea about you.
Hoser Hater complained about someone in the China section who uses "Traveler" in his ID. Since I have never ever posted in that section I guessed he confused you with me. If you got a prob with it, clear that with Hoser Hater but do not try to argue with me.

Hoser Hater

no problem, we all are humans and humans make mistakes.
Easy to get confused by the several "Traveler" IDs in the forum. Thanks for clarifying.

Take care

[quote][i]Posted by KiddieFucker (AKA Traveler)[/i]
I have ignored yours, Freeler's and Bill's attacks for several months
[/quote]

[quote][i]Posted by KiddieFucker (AKA Traveler) in the same post[/i]
I won't give up to defend myself.
[/quote]

You've never ignored posts. You've instigated trouble and you have admitted to being a kiddy fucker. This is not disputable, so how do you justify saying the alegations are false?

the traveller: you have admited to having sex with **** girls in thailand. you also gave a blue print for others to follow.

much like old thai hand and the school girl uniforms. he lives in a fantasy land as he believes interpol agents hang around with wasters like him. he made a threat to samus aran that can be repeated in time to others, jackson included. he is a menace to the board and so are you - and to **** kids as well.

hoser hater

you really seem to get your knickers in a twist!

i have never started any flaming and do not intend to. if you did your homework before jumping in at the deep end it was pretty damn clear that i was referring to the photo of the two dogs in the dark; subsequent posting endorses this - nothing to do with ****d girls, whatsoever. i suppose you could have a point if you are into the 'animal world'!......

look before you leap.........

tt

and the traveler

i see what has happened but must admit that you seem to be a twitchy sort of a guy? i have no intention of arguing with anyone (checking my posts will show this) but, having looked at a bit of history, still am not sure how keen i am on our being confused!

tt

don't you guys have anything better to do????
the guy posted pix of "****" dogs ("bitches").
now get a life!!!

Chuponalgas

A bit of levity never did anyone any harm

Sorry that it's beyond you

TT

Domino and others

a/ I won't be posting anymore on the Thai board.

b/ I appologized to Samus Aran and he wrote me, using his real name, which shows he trusts that I won't turn him in. He accepted the warning about his content was a legitimate concern. I stand by it. You may not think that he broke the law in Thailand, but, the fact is that he did. If you are a lawyer, give me the argument that refutes this. I will also mention that Jackson wrote me acknowledging the hate-crime content of Samus Aran's thread, but said there was nothing he could do about it.

c/ My threat sucked big-time and I admit it. I got carried away with my anger at what I read and had a knee-jerk reaction. There's absolutely no excuse for it.

By the way, there's a current threat against The Traveler in the photo section. Regardless of whether you support or detest him, you should stand up and argue against that as strongly as you argued against me. A threat is a threat. Whether said in jest or seriously, it should not be tolerated.

d/ I don't believe I ever advocated sex with under-age girls and don't want to be drawn into that fight.

e/ In highsight, talking about university students as a viable alternative to BGs was not that good of an idea. However, girls in bars are, on average 18-25 year old, as are university students. So, at least as far as age goes, I don't see the difference. Just because they're wearing a uniform doesn't mean that they are less of age than BGs.

But, on the other hand, I can see how it could lead to trouble, if someone can't differentiate between a high-school girl and a university girl. If one includes International schools, there are a lot of different uniforms which could lead to confusion. So, it was unwise of me to start the whole thing.

f/ My fantasy world, in which I am a waster, by the way DOES include my best friend, who DOES work with Interpol. (not my imaginary friend. That's Harvey the Rabbit). I've known him six years (not Harvey, my friend). He's Farang and is involved primarily in hunting down violators of Intellectual Property Rights (Piracy of software, drugs, alcohol, jewelry, clothing etc.) and, although not involved in the current porn crackdown, knows all the intimate details about it, which I related. He is not an agent. He's not James Bond. He's just a regular guy who happens to work with the Thai police and knows a lot of what's happening before it happens.

g/ As I'm a relatively recent poster, I don't know the whole history of the war with The Traveler, nor do I know him. So, please don't lump me in with your attacks on him. I'm neither defending him or criticizing him. I simply don't know what has gone on and don't want to be a part of the ongoing slug-fest.

h/ Lastly, I agree 100% with the fact that things have gotten out of hand on the Thai board. It's the worst board on the whole WSG for pettiness and nastiness. If I've fired anyone up, unduly with what I've posted, I'm sorry to have contributed to this nonsense.

Bye Bye

Domino

Freeler posted the same threat against me a while ago. Why not ask Jackson to ban him as well ?

I do not wonder that you can't understand that other people might have good connections. Your attitude does not allow it. Any Thai with only a bit pride and self respect will avoid you. Just look at your behaviour and language. Do you really believe that any civilized person wants to waste his/her time with someone like you. Old Thai Hand is far above your level so do not expect him to crawl around like you.

BTW, it's over now.

[quote][i]Posted By KF (AKA TT)[/i]
BTW, it's over now
[/quote]

Does this mean you're quitting the board?

Jackson,

Please get rid of this person. Take a look at their posts. No info. And you can just smell the lies as he claims to be an experienced pornographer. You'd think an experienced street pornographer would at least know where ho's wander.

Plus most are looking for mongers who want to join him in a "bukkake party". Notice how there are no details. Sounds like a 15 year old spanking it to me.

Please dump this garbage.


It's handle is "DM Ready"

Call Me Goo,

It appears he is trying to make a quick buck like the creators of Bang bus and Girls Gone Wild. That may render his posts as spam.



Rolly

Rolly,

I actually wouldn't mind if he was serious - because then he'd know where there were women to pick up ala bang bus...or at least give us some tactics, strategy, or anything.

But his posts are bunk. And as this site kicks ass - the last thing I want to see is clutter of dudes putting fantasies up here.

dear jackson

sory to trouble you again but "interpol" have told me there are insults to me on this thread.
1. i gave dana a solid lead on where to find advice.
2. i note the traveller says he knows lots of solicitors in thailand. could one of those worthy contacts not tell him that he has committed a series of very serious crimes against thai children and that thai law has very heavy penalties for the very serious series of crimes he has admitted to committing?
3. during the skinless/traveller thread. samus aran advised the traveller "to keep that shit to yourself". the traveller refuses to. perhaps it is time to pass on his details to the thai authorities.
4. imho, samus aran committed no offence. at worst, he would be deported for his rants, which would, given the context of a sex board they were offered in, be laughed out of court. on the other hand, the traveller would most likely get a minimum of three years in jail for the series of statory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] he has admitted to. he would certainly be barred from reentering thailand, which has a zero tolerance policy to those who consort with child prostitutes.

I like this board and think it is great. My posts are not spam, I am chatting and conversing with members of this board, I assume members of this board may share the same views I have and would hope to find common interest here. We are not all the same, and if you don’t like my posts (I don’t like all the posts here either) then I don’t read them. I certainly don’t go crying to the administrator.

You can think what you want; just don't bother with my posts. I am really surprised at the energy you put into this issue. There are plenty of useless postings going on here, why would you direct your energy at me?

I read and post based on the rules. I don't spam asking for visitors for my pay sites. I look for people with common interests, something BBSes have been doing to years.

DM Ready

DM,

I don't live in your city and therefore don't post there, but when I see compaints posted I check the people out for my own curiousity, just to see if the complaint has any basis to it (not that my opinion matters in the scheme of things).

BUT, in looing at all 14 of your posts, I would say 11-12 of them are looking to hook up with other mongers for a bukkake party and asking where to find SW so you can make a movie. That is not, as you call it, chatting and conversing with members.

I don't think you should be banned for wasting bandwidth, but generally these boards are a place to exchange information, not a place for people to recruit for their business propositions, even if it is "sex work" related.

By the way, you really should check out the way Jackson defines spam because it is not exactly what you think it is. One definition is repetitive postings (ie posting more than once about a bukkake party!).

Thats pretty bad when people have to get involved with interpol on this site. Interpol has no place on this board and anybody that deals with interpol should be banned!

Well maybe not banned, because I believe in free speach, but thats really bad when people say things about getting interpol and I think people that say such things should get alot of hate mail in thier mail box.

Its not the place for any goverment orgazation bo be involved in. The fact is many of the people here are breaking the law in countries where prositiution is illeagal. Why wouild anyone attract attention to something that is illeagal unless they want to destroy this site or maybe couse injury to someone on the site and if so this is not the place for it.

Its my opionion

Hello Jackson,

I think that Domino needs his own thread in the Thailand section, rather like Samus Aran. Domino (and his previous incarnation) is a charming, witty guy. But he is argumentative and controversial in the same way as Samus Aran. Domino, or whatever his current alias is, needs to charm us from his own section. He is a damn, argumentative nusianse whenever he pops up anywhere else.

Dear Jackson

Thai photo section: Ljohnson insists on posting photos of transvestites and little children on the thread. As well as being a violation of your rules, it begs a lot of questions as to what the real agenda of some of these serial offenders is.

Can you imagine what the parents and friends of the children ljohnson has snapped must think? He has put them in the middle of a thread with transvestites, old men getting blow jobs by creatures of dubious sexuality (don't tell me all Big Slong's conquests are natural women) and common prostitutes. Plus, what must they think of ljohnson, who snaps hookers, TVs and their children? Sexual targets all?

Given the history of the Thai thread, it almost defies belief that ljohnson would insist on this latest violation. Almost!

To Jackson

RE: Thai Section

I must agree with Dominio.

Pictures of children should never be allowed in this forum.

After all it is a sex forum.

I will quote domino who stated "Can you imagine what the parents and friends of the children ljohnson has snapped must think?"

Even if it is a chance in a million (they see the pictures)
it is not right to have there pictures in this forum

Thanks
Boxing

Domino a.k.a. Skinless

You again show a total lack of respect for any fellow member of this forum by posting a PM which was also obviously not directed to you but send to you by mistake.

PM means "Private Message", so how can you expect anybody to trust you in the future if you aren't able to keep things private, especially if it was send to you by mistake. It's like reading a letter of your neighbour and putting it at the blackboard. That tells us a lot about your character, you got no limits.

So far Jackson has ignored all your complains. Guess why ?
Why still bother him ? He has more important things to do than taking part in your personal wars.

Take my advice, lay it to rest on go on. This board was intended for grown up people to share their infos. We should all be brothers and help each other instead of bashing others. If you feel the need to flame someone, do it by PM if it gives you some relief, or do you need an audience for that ?

If you don't want to respect all the other members than at least respect Jackson and the great work he does. Keep the forum clean. Everything else is a disgrace of Jackson's efforts for us.

i'm not following this soap opera myself, but i do read tid bits here and there. i'm not sure who the accused **** is in this or who posted what pictures where, but if all you guys ignore each other then the problem will come to a sudden halt.

i could give jackson a quick resolution that would not involve banning anyone, but knowing that he doesn't give a f*ck about what i say i will refrain.

Jackson,

Here is what I got from this guy for not providing info

Nightcrawler
Regular Member
Reports: 35

Just to show you all how much of a DUMB ASS lover boy is, he copies what I emailed to him giving LE more ammunition. Stupid Ass

Here's email from open mind:

Tommy01,
T
hank you. I will try this place out with a friend and give you our feedback. This way we will have more information about this place. Don't put too much in the public information.

Talk to you soon.

Thanks,

Open Mind.

Tommy,

Is that a complaint? Granted these boards are for sharing information, but some things are easy targets for stings such as strip clubs and bars.

I've gotten many PM's that give me info because I am trusted, but I am requested to not share it with anyone unless I deem them trustworthy. This prevents new hot spots from getting busted, but eventually it should be brought to light.

Ban Vegamars for endorsing child prostitution!

[RED]Posted by Vegamars on the Istanbul boards:[/RED]

[QUOTE]
If you're experienced enough to select, you can find pretty young girls.

It's true that there are a lot of girls of age 24 and above, but it's also quite possible to find very young first-timers like 16 and 17 years old.

More important of all is how the girl looks and performs rather than the real age.[/QUOTE]

Just one note. In some countries the age of consent is 16.

Jackson,

Not to overstep my boundaries, but I feel something needs to be done about guys like Southpaw spewwing nonsense at a senior member like Gpiper. I looked through this guys posts and there's a serious lack of quality and a whole bunch of single sentence posts. Like I've said before, respect needs to be given to the guys who have made the game easy for youngsters like myself.

Chekist, although the age of consent may be 16 in some countries, we should not talk about anyone under the age of 18 in this forum, so as not to call attention to this forum and possibly have it shut down for advocating under-age sex.

If you feel comfortable that a girl has reached the age of consent, great, just don't talk about her here unless she is over 18.

Ban Rolly Polly for lack of understanding what he reads, deliberate confusion and misleading of other members and causing chaos on purpose.

LOL!

Let's see who has the misunderstanding:

From Jackson's Forum FAQ's:

[QUOTE]What is SPAM?

Spam is defined as postings to the Forum that are contrary to the purpose of the site, including:

- Commercial Messages (Except for Classified Advertisements section)
- Links to Adult Websites
- Links to Competing Forums (Including Yahoo Groups)
- [RED]Discussions of Sex with Minors (under 18)[/RED]
- Homosexual Messages
- Transvestite Messages
- Masturbation Messages
- Repetitive Postings
- Advertising Yourself to meet Women (Except for Classified Ads)
- TYPING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
- Typing in Blue Font (Reserved for Editor)
- Links or references to competing Forums (Including MSN and Yahoo Groups)
- Email Addresses
- Threatening the Webmaster
- Personal Insults & Attacks
- Postings not in English
- Hate Messages
- Racist Messages
- Race Taunting
- Religious Messages
- Warnings from Law Enforcement
- Deliberate Disinformation
- General BS
[/QUOTE]

and

[QUOTE]What is the Forum's SPAM Policy?

Spam is not permitted in the Forum at any time or in any form.

1st time transgressors will have their SPAM message deleted in it's entirety.

Repeated violators will have all their posts deleted and lose their posting privileges.[/QUOTE]

Actually, whoever has been bringing up the subject constantly for the last couple of months for certain and obvious aims and benefits, should be focused on very carefully.

They just wanna repeat again and again just to attract enough attention for preventing the exchange of real worth stuff.

My last words about a subject that I've never had the slightest intention of worth mentioning.

We'll see altogether who's gonna continue endless slicing up of the topic.

I side with Rolly Polly! He seems to be fully aware of the rules, and has made many sound contributions to the board. Vegamars ill - fated attempt to ban him makes no sense.

Jackson even took his time to write and explain to everybody why he doesn't want discussions about sex with minors (under 18) [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1073][b]here[/b][/url].

It doesn't matter for him what the age of consent in a given country is. Also, I also don't think it's right to post something like :

[i]"..... it's also quite possible to find very young first-timers like 16 and 17 years old.

More important of all is how the girl looks and performs rather than the real age. "[/i]

Obviously, that's not Jackson's opinion. Even if (or should I say: especially if) they are "battle-hardened veterans by the time they're 16", as Jackson put it, he doesn't want it to be discussed on his site. He's in charge, he sets the rules.

Jackson

User King of Sluts, formerly known as ILS or I love sluts is back and harrasing the Panama board, heres and extract from one of his posts



Gauntman, for your curiosity, Panamanians are socially low class people without education whom cannot be trusted. You cannot trust Panamanians at all. I believe the movie "blow" is the summary of the Panamanian people. The poor guy was robbed of all of his money due to the Panamanians stealing the money. These Panamanians are socially disgusting people. You cannot change that Gauntman, because it is the truth.

KOS

Jackson,

Bulkogi is trouble. On the DC/Northern Virginia and Baltimore fora and in PM's, he's become a serial antagonist. I think his membership here is not for the express purpose of this site: men seeking women for sex.

I've asked him to go away and will not reply to him further. You may want to look into him. I would not ever recommend him for Senior Membership.

Robux

Jackson

I would like the report being made by Chris H taken off of Akron .He is personaly attacking me and you have said in the past this kind of attacks won't be tollerated.

DJ69

Jackson

I enjoy this site very much. And I like to tell other members about whats going on out here. But, I dont appreciate when Chris H from Columbus starts to attack me.

I don't want him ban I just want his Akron report to be pulled. I have not attack him since other members have email me and told me the attacks on each other had to stop.

So if you can, please pull the report

THanks DJ69

I think you better look into this reports as a few members have try calling but then it's a fake:

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Wanting young FL's who are paying for their own studies from local colleges and who are lazying around at home coz fucking is fun and extra money for ZARA clothes, just turned 20 on 10 August is Yuki, looks sweet and innocently sexy. Dad left mom when she was 4 and now fends for herself and mom, only RM200 per pop and professionally GFE. Call her at 012 686 9918 for an ANIME Porn Action star look-alike.

Also 23 year old Coco, can arrange for her GF, for 3-sum at hotel of your choice for RM300 each for 2 hours. She can suck you dry and gulp down, hungry for cum ****. She's yours when you call 016 285 8355. Nice boobs and sexy tattoos

As for YOKO of LDI she does out-calls too and is still a value for money fuck so try and see if she is free to do you by calling 012 215 1616

All CIM except for Yuki, but no worries I will train her for you Brothers.

Good luck and good fuck!

*****-Trainer 101

Jackson,

I have repeatedly ask this Memeber#1620, from Las Vegas, Nevada, to stop emailing me. We have had words in last few days but I have stopped and have asked him also to do so. He will not and this is just part of the last email he has sent me.

Also, if you weren't such a moron, you would know how to use a computer. My 8 year old nephew knows how to block e-mail. I could have your posts returned to sender anytime, but they are far too amusing to do. If I really wanted to fuck you over (not my style, still having fun), I could zap you with a virus. My old roommate worked tech support for years and he is an asshole and lives for the misery of others.

Am I wrong? But isn't this a threat? Don't they people in jail for less?

So sorry for being such a newby to the forum. He really makes people want to come back and post more.

Viva Scotty

woaaaah, jackson, who let the dogs out ???

i am referring to samus aran. you relegated him to his own section a while back, with him apparently unable to get out of his self imposed exile, and his very much needed cage. most of us are appreciative of the fact that you muzzled him, considering his language toward tgs appalling at best, to the point of being a complete pig. but now, the pig has been let out of his cage, and is now wondering the halls of other threads.

the irony of it all is that when you closeted him i defended him, talking about free speech etc. well, i have done 180 turn around, and i along with other frequent posters on the thai board, have been happy to see him locked up in the sa thread, though i thought you had thrown away the key. my mistake.

funny thing happened last week. a few of us actually had a civil, intelligent interesting discussion in the sa thread, talking about the advantages of having a gfe, rather than the usual 3f that is the sole purpose of the thread. where was sa during all this? i know he wasn’t off humping his “sperm tupperware” during all this time, as he so proudly claims he only needs 15 minutes, and that probably includes getting undressed, showered, and dressed again. but not a peep from him. god forbid he should comment on anything intelligent.

look at all his posts. not one fr. not 1 photo, not one interesting thing to say, just the same garbage, day after day. i, for one, can’t understand how he can continue like this. most of us are bored reading his shit, imagine what it would be like having to write such crap !!!

now we find him abusing some guy who wants to bring a tg back to korea for a couple of months. what is wrong with that? why is it some people’s opinion is the only one that is correct? can’t we live and let live? who fucking died and made him god ? what once was mildly amusing is now plain and simple harassment. i really don’t believe any newbie out there, who might actually find this board, would look at the sa thread anyway. they will read bkk 2004, hotels, and pattaya, or phuket. why even have this thread? it is rude, and a disgrace to mongers. i am sick of it, i would mention names of countless others who are too, but for the sake of anonymity, i won’t. do us all a favor, and get him the fuck outta here.

how about sa enjoying the same fate z*lda did, along with a*dlez? most of us would cheer you for it.

thank you

Dear Jackson

Taking a break from my charity work, I find you have repaired the search function. Your dedication never ceases to amaze me. I would much prefer to read your time management tips than many other things written here.
I find the criticism of SA to be misplaced because of the following: this board is not a truly serious board in the way that something from the Oval Office might be. Can we, for example, really believe that the Korean based Thai lover is asking for our advice the same way he might ask his best friend in South Korea for advice?

South Korea is often labeled as even more xenophobic than Japan, where Thai hookers are, by and large, despised. (they do the 3 k jobs for anyone familiar with Japanese culture/kanji). That being so, bringing a Thai hooker for a GFE to Korea poses obvious problems. SA has pointed out some of those problems, albeit in a less than perfect manner.

I think, in short, you should ignore 1ball's post and that of the rest of the chorus. Allow them to continue to display their ignorance and their agendas - both inside and outside the SA thread:)

Domino,

Did I read a different post from that you have read? I cannot find any useful statement from SA regarding possible problems for Thai women travelling to South Korea - and I would have appreciated that very much, especially if it came from SA.

What I read is exactly the same what SA is always posting in his own thread.

Is it not possible to agree on a minimum common consense such as using a reasonable language, even if we have extreme opinions, and to refrain from any form of harassment? Is that really not possible? Agreed - the forum is not the oval office, but even if virtual figures are created to express extreme opinions I would expect the author to use an acceptable form of displaying his character. What sense does it make if that character pisses most of the readers off?


1ball,

I think nobody will be surprised if I state that I agree with you on most of you comments. I can live with SA in his own thread, because nobody forces me to read it, or to post there. But if he will appear in all Thai section now I will completely retire from the forum.

Jackson,

It's your forum, you define the rules. One day you will have to decide, which kind of readership / writers you want in this board.


Giotto

Jackson,

We now have a rather serious situation in the Dominican Republic photo section, where some unknown lurker/member is now informing girls that their photos are posted, and said same person is also smearing other members with accusations about the photos origination.

I am AGAIN requesting that ALL my photo postings be removed from the Dominican Republic photo section ASAP, as these are now becoming problematic for MANY people.

Thank you
RearWindow

1ball,

You're a friend and I'd like to agree with you, but.

SA's post can be degrading, repetative and often inflamatory. But they sometimes make me smile, sort of like watching a police car chase TV show. I'm just waiting for the crash. As Giotto points out, we go to the SA thread of our own accord for whatever reason. So, I see no reason for him to be banned.

IMHO

FD

Jackson,

We have this guy in the California/Orange County board "Good4meandU" making personal threats and posting insults because I posted information on a particular provided I like to frequent. Isn't this what this board was intended for (Passing on brotherly info to our fellow mongers)?

Personally, I think this guy is full of crap and is scared that the only place where he can get a good piece of ass could go belly up. However, his actions should be reprimanded and should be warned that if he continues he could be banned.

Thanks,

Beer Guzzler

Please ban Redneck3565 since he is attacking you and the way you run the board. What an ungrateful dickhead. Also his handle is stupid.

I agree with Dickhead!

Redneck is an ungreatful moron.

Jackson,

How much longer do I have to put up with Chris H from Columbus attacking me on the Akron forum. He is continuing attacking me and it is getting to be a headach.

I thought this forum is to be use to help one another on sw action,not a forum to attack one another.

Please do something about this.

Thank you.

DJ69

[blue]Hi,

I am always willing to review problem reports and effect the appropriate action, but with everything I have to do to maintain the Forum on a daily basis, I find it somewhat time-consuming to hunt down and identify an exact report in the Forum from amongst the thousands of reports. Therefor, I would ask your assistance in helping me identify the report by asking you to please use the "Report this Post to a moderator" link at the bottom of the report.

When you select this link, the program will display a dialog box wherein you may enter your comments about the report. After that, please select the "Send Report Now" button at the bottom of the screen, and the Forum software will send me an email with your comments and a link directly back to the report. This makes it very easy for me to read your comments, and then go directly to the report where I can effect the appropriate response.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson,

Here is a PM I got from Pura Tico, please ban him so he learns not to threaten people, plus his posts are as stupid as he sounds.


Name Change
You should seriously consider changing your name to " The BIG FOOL"

The Royle Dutch is a great Local Tico Family Hotel. It accomodates / suffers a few regular Gringo's well.

What it dosent need is a self important fool with a big mouth like you acting as a travel guide.

Remember FOOL "A dog doesn't shit in it's own yard" and "A Pig dosen't shit where it eats."

The Del Ray, Pesidente and Balmorel are set up to handel the regular Drunken Monger as well as novice monger trade.

Open your mouth again and the next time you stay at the RD you bed will be short sheeted.

Pura Vida, Pura Tico



Thanks Jackson, look forward to lots of posts and pictures from central and south america.

Travieso

Lead Foot wrote on the Corpus Christi board that he is looking for "school girls" behind schools and that they need the "lunch money".

It may have been said in jest, but I think we should not make references about school girls or about looking for girls around schools.

My opinion.

Jackson:

Please check the Philadelphia AMP board - it is degenerating into an exchange of nasty messages between Kilgore Trout and Vic Vega.

Dear Jackson:

The situation on the Philladelphia AMP board with Vic Vega has gotten out of control. There are threats and slurs being issued, and you need to take charge of the situation.

Jackson,

How about banning the apparent racist "Danger64" on the Virginia - Other Area board? His 9-30-04 post was laced with racial slurs like "sammies" (apparently slang for "Sambos") and "Bush Bunnies."

Personally, I don't care whether the sicko is a racist or not. But I'd think he could make his points on this very public forum without the racial slurs.

Max

Jackson, please review Phantom44's posts on the VA - Northern VA board. Frankly, I'm curious how a poster with barely a dozen msgs and such bad behavior makes senior status...

Jackson:

Got another problem case on the Philadelphia AMP Board - Nip Tuck. His commentary is abusive and insulting to several members; as a new poster this is pretty bad.

Thanks for looking into this,

Dutch

User "hrchrister" on the NOrwegian forum apparently landed at WSG by mistake while searching for a Nazi message board.
- He is repeatedly posting racist messages and Nazi messages on on the Olso section of the Norway message board
- In addition, he is repeatedly sending me private messages of racist nature, including all sorts of loony ranting about Nazi race breeding philosophies.

How does a loser ike this get SENIOR member status?

Kindly delete this loser. He is posting non-relevant material, in addition to which the content of his posts could leave you liable under anti-racism laws which pertain to most of Europe.

I noticed that this thread was started by someone other than the Admin, how did that happen?

Jackson,

After this clown posted his first message under Phnom Penh on 05-02-04, you asked other members to keep an eye on him. Today he posted the same message three places in the Dominican Republic forum. I think his post,

"Hi Guys,
I've been visiting DR for some time now and I'm looking for action in the seedier side of things. I mean I'm looking for loca chicas that are willing to do anything
(including, but not limited to golden/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135][CodeWord135][/url], young women - 15/16 yrs and bestiality)."

Contains the magic words and numbers you require to squash this bug.

Jackson

It seems like the new format doesn't have the automatic spam reporting function as far as I can see.

On the Las Vegas thread, the following date and time:

11-16-04, 21:34

It is posted as a warning about a "scam" website, but it also seems to be advertising the services of a porn star, it also mentions sending money in advance, which seems a little suspicious to me.

So I wanted to let you know about it.

Hooky

Hooky

The little red triangle in the upper right corner is for reporting spam/bad reports.

FD

I’d like to inform everyone that Chick Luver is a fraud.

He has recently posted a message (titled ‘Sex Guide in Kenya’) on the Kenya board that says:

‘I have been to Kenya many times and loves to visit the places for Mongering. Not much information is available in the Forum about this beautiful land. I am trying to give you some information, on the basis of my experience, about the land which may be useful for many.’

And after this there is an excellent report about the Kenyan sex scene.

The problem is that excellent report on Kenya has not been written by the wannabe monger Chick Luver, but by another person: let’s call the real author B.

A few weeks ago I posted a request for info on Kenya on this as well as on other boards as I’m planning to go on a sex safari next year, and in one of those other forums B appeared giving me excellent info, we moved to PM’s and emails and exchanged some extremely valuable pussy intelligence. B said he was putting together a sex guide on Kenya and he did so and posted it a few weeks ago in that other forum, which I won’t mention here because it’s not allowed to post addresses of competitor forums.

B wrote and posted on that forum the ‘Sex guide to Kenya’ that Chick Luver has now copied and pasted here saying that he has written it based on his own experience. As you can see, that’s utter BS.

B has told me he is not a member of this forum so he won’t complain here, but I think that it should be made public that Chick Luver is full of shit and his posts lack credibility – in fact, that guide to Kenya is excellent because it was copied from a good source, but God knows where he is copying his other stories from or if he is just making some of them up.

Jackson, I’m going to report his post to you, via the ‘report this post’ function, and I’ll give you exact details of the (free) forum where that report was posted a few weeks ago and who posted it, in case you want to confirm this info yourself, then it will be up to you what to do with this fraud – I guess you must have a sort of black list for frauds, trolls, etc who should be dealt with, eventually.

Dear Jackson,

below is a post by "Guy #2" out of the Istanbul section, dated 26th November. I am fine with critics, but the one below goes a bit too far ! what does he want to tell us with "stupid jew" ? I believe this bloke is ready for a strict warning email by you.


"These are the worst posts I have ever seen. Where are the prices and info? All I see is some stupid part shots taken by some stupid jew. Isn't the purpose of this site to find cheap beautiful women. You guys post useless photos and info."

Dear Jackson,

I agree with Local Expert. [b]Guy#2[/b] posted an offensive comment in the Turkey Photo Gallery (which was already sent to the moderator) and also, last week, the same Guy#2 attacked fellow member Big JP in the Japan Photo Gallery.

BTW, why is the function for looking up a member's recent post history disabled? It was extremely useful and a quick shortcut. I know I could just go to advanced search and put in an exact member name and press "show results as posts" but that would be too much work. :rolleyes: Just kidding. Great website. :p

Peace

And he posted in the BA photo section, complaining about the women depicted. Hey, if he doesn't like the women down here, why doesn't he just sit his narrow ass at home? Ban this fuck.

Daddy Lows,
Click on the username in the post. There is a drop down menu. The link to find all of the user's posts is there.

Keep sending us the great pics!

K.J. Baltimonger

Guy #2 must be an escaped lab experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong. Like a schitzed monkey throwing his virtual shit globally at this board.

1. He doesn't post information relevant to the stated goal of this site: To help men find women for sex.

2. He ran afoul of the no BS guideline early and offten.

3. He also seems to be flouting the new "serial antagonist" rule.

Not much of a case can be made in his defense, other that he was dropped on his head (repeatedly) as a child, and has a severe case of anti-solicial pathologies. Hmmmm.

Herr Jackson? What say you?

Robux.

Jackson,

I'm being harassed in the Akron forum, and yes I did click onto the complaint part of there post. Im being haraased by Chris H from Columbus,who has no right to post in Akron when he has nothing to contribute to it.

And the other one is Ray the Hunter, who has not posted in 9 mo. and the only contribution he has made to the Akron forum is to harassed me.

Thank you for looking into this

dj69

Jackson

I know im a very out spoken person and yes I know I rock some boats in this forum,but I do not like getting death threats in my pm box from Denny Sample in the Akron, Ohio forum. And I would gladly foward that message to you if you tell me how to do that.

dj69

[blue]Hi,

Just ignore him.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Dear John 69,
it seems that anyone who disagrees with you is "attacking" you as you claim. here is my advice to you: GROW SOME THICK SKIN. Someone else disagrees with you, and your responses are extremely childish. It is either childish namecalling/accusations, or running to Jackson, begging for him to defend you like he is your big brother.

I got your PM the other day. No, Ray did not come to me to for anything. I did however read your complaint about him in this thread. I went to the Akron, OH section to see what the deal was. You made a disparaging comment about him there, about how he treats SW's. I know firsthand from an SW in Baltimore, MD who gets picked up by him when he's in town, that he treats her very well. Do I know him personally? No. But I'll take this SW at her word. I offered a simple rebuttal to what you posted.

As far as your beef with Chris H: You claim he can't get FS for $20 or less. If you believe that, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. I'm not saying you can get top notch for that price, but you can get something. BTW: those hoes he takes pics of are definitely not from TJ.

Instead of pissing and moaning about these guys, try listening to them for a change. You might learn something. It's apparent to me, and I'm sure a lot of others who have to read some of the stuff you post, that you haven't tried yet.

Just my $0.02
K.J. Baltimonger

Denny latest attack on me is unjustified and his report should be pulled. It is very untrue and it is also very hurtfull to Samantha.

dj69

John, pop some valiums already or better yet, get some thick skin.

[quote=rolly polly]john, pop some valiums already or better yet, get some thick skin.[/quote]sorry rolly i do not need any recreational drugs like you do. and besides i do not take deaththreats in my pm lightly.

i beleive in freedom of speech,but when someone sends me a deathtreat in pm i have a right to respond. and besides that; why are you sticking up for him is he a personal friend of yours?

if you have read torchkit report,he says just to leave things alone. and now you come along and are trying to fan the flames. so why dont you just leave it alone.

and yes i do have thick skin i have been mongering for over 24 years, and beleive me i have survived the streets of akron.

dj69

Jackson,

My amusment with Dear john 69 has finished. I can honestly say that he must be the most unpopular person on these boards! Check out what I posted in Ackron about the TREATENING PM he sent me. I think it's time to vote him off the island.....


Rolly out

[QUOTE=Rolly Polly]Jackson,

My amusment with Dear john 69 has finished. I can honestly say that he must be the most unpopular person on these boards! Check out what I posted in Ackron about the TREATENING PM he sent me. I think it's time to vote him off the island.....


Rolly out[/QUOTE] No my threat came as a way of protecting myself. I feel that for someone that lives in Florida. That Rolly Polly has no right whats so ever to come into the Akron forum and attack me . Most of the attacks on me have been from mongers outside of the Akron forum.

I feel that these attacks have gone way too far and need to stop for everyone concerned. I admit that I have been wrong, but I also feel that I have a right to protect myself

And now it seems that Denny Sample is making threats against Samantha, which if I was him I would not do that. She will not go to the police, she has someone who will protect her.

I feel that some of these reports in the Akron forum should be pull asap

dj69

These personal attacks by this monger has to stop. He thinks by saying nasty stuff about Samantha on this forum, that it will dry out her buissness. Which it has not, as a matter of fact a few guys that do post on here see her on a regular basic.( And they have not come down with anything)

And some of the personal attacks on me here and im my pm box are very threatening and very insulting to say the least.

I also feel that Denny is a stalker because me and Samantha have seen him by her house a few times.

So please consider this, and respond accordingly

dj69

Dear Admin,

Please ban this racist dog named El Suave for his racist remarks which he uses to incite flame mails from other members. he has been flaming various members including some very senior members e.g. JSF

San

Jackson,

I can't find the 'report this post' button anymore so let me just tell you about this 'member' named
Duncan
Regular Member
Posts: 1
who on
02-17-05 at 06:17
calls Macho Dik all sorts of names.

Now, honostly I do think that Macho Dik has his head screwed on in a rather stange way, BUT Duncan is clearly breaking all the 'be nice to other members' rules you've put in place in the past,

Thanks,
Freeler

Freeler,

I don't know Duncan, nor have I followed Macho Dik's posts, but in Duncan's defense Macho Dik was asking a question that could easily be construed as race baiting. It was something along the lines of [i]Why do you guys like dark skinned women. I think they're ugly.[/i] That could be interpreted as pretty odious and I called Macho Dik out on it. Granted, I was a bit more diplomatic than Duncan. I chose to treak Dik like an ignorant child while Duncan chose to treat him like a man.

My vote, if I may be so presumtuous to claim that priviledge here in Jackson's sandbox, is to let Duncan off with a ruler to his wrist, and to give Dik a paddling.

Robux

Jackson: Would you please check the Turkey-Board and ban "MEMBER # 2873" and "Gollum Smeagol". Those folks copy and paste pictures from porn videos and tell bullshit stories.

Thank you

Jackson,

Yes, Routard is a SPAMMER!!!
Just look at the The Netherlands pages or just ban the sucker without looking.
It's that bad!

Regards,
Freeler

I think, Routard has done a great job with listing all the clubs in the several regions. Why should he be banned? I think, his list should be sticked at the top of the threads, for they give a good overview over the different places.

Regards,

Novize

Jackson:

In the Beijing section we're seeing posts by "Horny Girl," who is offering girls for service and posting photos from the Web of at least one well-known category III star. It's annoying and not in keeping with the forum's rules.

Maybe I sshuld report Freeler for not knowing that the exclamation sign in the bottom left hand corner of a report is the button we now use to report a message to Jackson;)
Also: Hotel Rwanbda is dl very slowly. Simplest thing might be to buy it next time I am in Bkk.
Also, on security, I have dl 4 adwares that are in a compressed file. Norton identified them but cannot delete them. The online scan does not identify them and I cannot find them on a physical search.

i received this abusive pm from doc bill. he should be banned for his false allegations of being a child **** and for his threats.

"get help, ****!

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you are one sick cookie, pal. ... i guess since you're such a fucking loser that the only people who will fuck you are little girls that you pay it shouldn't surprise me.

i'm warning you now, and i only warn once. ..."

received from Doc Bill by PM:

"One more thing...

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I know when you're going to be in Cartagena. Watch your back. You have no idea the friends I have or the resources I have."

I Don’t have time to post all his entertaining PM's. But like 95% of us know he is a racist moron, and has nothing useful to write.

Hypothetically speaking, all I need is his IP and I can implement Chaos into his miserable and pathetic life.

Happy Hunting!


Re: octatron

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I take a big shit on you octatron, your mother sucks the cum out of my balls. I treat your mother like such a whoore.

Cheers

KOS



Quote:
Originally Posted by Octatron
Your as stupid as they come. Like everyone knows your such a loser.


Quote:
Originally Posted by King Of Sluts
Hey Octy,

YOUR MOM IS A *****, I SHIT ON YOU, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU LICK NIGGER BALLS FOR FIVE DOLLARS. GO SIPHON THE CUM OUT OF YOUR DADS BALLS.

IN CONCLUSION, GO FUCK YOURSELF, COCKSUCKER.

KOS , ALWAYS IN THE HOUSE

You are the most stupid, idiot who has ever been on this forum. Your so fucking stupid, that's why your brother hates you so much. Yeah that's right, we know who you are, you fucking moron.


[/QUOTE]

I completely agree with Mister Solo about banning Nibu Raphael (note: this is the first time I have ever advocated banning anyone.) He is a complete idiot, contributes absolutely nothing of worth to this forum, and takes up an inordinate amount of valuable space.

Lorenzo

[QUOTE=Cubanito]Hi, i just wanted to know how your supply of Viagra is doing...I have a new stock of Generic Viagra called Vega 100. It is a great product and seems to be very popular.

Let me know if you need any. Visit my website for pricing. Thanks
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[url]www.freewebs.com/viagra-world[/url][/QUOTE]

I got this unsolicited PM I thought you might be interested in as it violates several of your rules.

[QUOTE=Want To Scruw]Please Ban Aussie Greg, He Called Me A Fucking Idiot In His Last Post In Medellin.

[blue]At least he knows when and where to use the caps key.

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]LOL: Are you sure this guy is not KOS in disguise?

Bsides, AG called him a "Fucken idiot"

Jackson,

I would like to nominate [b]Mikster[/b] to be banned; this guy contributes nothing of value to the Philippines forum and despite being asked to stop wasting bandwidth with his nonsense rants he continues - why?

The threats are not a problem, since it’s all talk, but l do draw a line at the posting of bogus information on his part.

Firstly I'd rather not get anybody banned - but if that's the only way to shut these people up, then I'd be happy. JuiceSpike and The Traveller are the main culprits but others are getting involved. Their bitching at each other has now spread to FOUR threads, all in the Asia/Thailand section.

Anyway, if anything can be done, I'd appreciate it - as I'm sure many others would. Too much useful information is being hidden by their ranting at each other.

Thanks

hi jackson,

recently the traveler has kindly invited me to think about his case and give my opinion on it. i usually use this forum exclusively to find (or provide) information about where to find women around the world and don’t normally pay any attention to off-topic discussions, such as the traveler case, but since he has invited me to give my opinion i will oblige.

the traveler is also known as ‘the ****boy’, but i find this nickname disrespectful, i’d call him the member who tends to fuck ‘accidentally’ ****d girls in thailand.

you probably remember his case: he posted long ago a series of photos of some of the ****d thai girls that he has abused in pattaya, some of them looked no older than 15 yo (under thai standards) so many members reported those photos to you and they also started to criticize the traveler for his habit of fucking child-looking thai girls under the age of 18. those photos were eventually deleted.

since then the traveler has been caught a number of times in his own network of lies, which makes him look even guiltier than when he first posted the photos of some of his victims.

his latest blatant lie is that he actually fucked only one ****d girl, a girl who was 17 but about to turn 18, though she looked like 20 yo. can you believe this? many of us (including you, i suppose) clearly remember that he posted the pictures of 4-5 different ****d girls that he admitted to have had sex with, some of them looked extremely young, well below 18 yo, and he has been lately posting the blatant lie that it was only one girl, as if it had been just an irrelevant one-off event. but this is just the latest layer of muddle that this compulsive liar has tried to throw on his crimes against children.

when he first posted those photos it could be argued that there was a remote chance that he was really a straightforward guy who had accidentally fucked all those child-looking girls under 18 yo (he might have some eyesight condition or something), but now that he has devoted hundreds of posts for over one year to cunningly try to hide his crimes with confusion, blatant lies and even flames with other members, it seems quite clear that this is not the case of a straightforward member who was trying to warn others: this is the case of a serial child-abuser who has intentionally and repeatedly broken thailand’s child prostitution laws.

as all ****s, the traveler is not really aware of his condition and he considers himself neither ill nor a criminal, he will go to any lengths to deny his crimes – in a recent post he was even trying to argue that it is lawful to fuck 15 yo girls in thailand, it was the result of his ‘research’ in certain website.

****philia is a very serious sexual disorder and professional psychiatric treatment is essential in order to deal with it. the traveler is not going to benefit from posting on this forum in search of some self-respect; and, on the other hand, this forum is not gaining any benefit from having a **** in denial stage posting misinformation and starting flames.

Why not Ban him from his constant spamming. Anyone who knows Me knows I live up to most of my promises about traveling. Jacksons knows that too. I have been to Argentina about 4 times the same with Brazil about 4 times. I have lived in Peru for 4 years and have been to Mexico more then 4 times too and lived there for over 8 months in 1998. Ha more 4s to add there too. Just ask my friends like Judd,Johan 007,Screwed Up,Mountain Guy,El Mercanario,David 33,Johnny Wadd,Bruno,Steven and others that have met up with me in Lima Peru and other places. Remember Rodrigo who was my right hand man in Brazil a few years back? Lexton I met up with in Ascunsion Paraguay too. Dickead,Jackson,Capt. Dave and others I have met up with in Argentina. This Guy Peter Solano or Mister Solo as he might be called gets way with so much. Shit with the Dollar falling so much under Bush and Peter and his high prices this is not fair. How many times in Lima Have I took guys out and never asked for someone to pay me a for a Fuck. My friends have paid for a Fuck for Me like Bruno and Steve for that Big Titter in Lima the same with Chicagoboy and Judd but I never asked. I will not give up cause I like to help out fellow Mongers. I think maybe even Elversele is Peter Solano too. Lets not SPAM Guys and Monger,Sincerly Nibu R. PS JACKSON KEP UP THE GREAT WORK,Your friend Nibu Raphael.

It's the end of the world. When Nibu complains about someone else spamming, you know that it's all coming to an end.

Nibu whOm I Met one Timeee is basiCally hamrless but did Way Two Much Acid at some Piontt and four Him to Say that some One Eelse is Spamming is so FucKing ludicrous thhatt I can Not Even Bee Lieve it. I am Roooollliiingg on the FlooR laughing my FukKing ass OFFF rith now.

Eye wud lik 2 complan about Dikhead. Hes not funy an kant spel

[b]daddy rulz[/b]

wat u mien he kaяnt speel¿

maň he toort me eγretДng i n0o


:)

Nibu Raphael,

What's the deal with you and Peter Solano? I've seen you two at each others throats on other web-sites and it seems like you provoke him most of the time. If his post bother you that much, why not make life simple and just put him on your ignore list? The webmaster on the other site threatened to suspend both of your accounts. If that happened here wouldn't that drive you crazy since you have over four thousand post on this site and only about one thousand five hundred on the other? Just some food for thought...

Ok dude, aside from that, keep up the good work!! ;-)

Y & R

Hi Jackson, could you have a look at the photo gallery in Costa Rica. Tweedle is posting what is obviously fake photos, and members want him out of there.

thanks

1ball

Ban him from the website and remove the entire collection of photos on the website.

Indeed his photos are fake from the Costa Rica reports.

Please deal with tweedleD's theivery. He is doing the same thing on the LA thread in the USA section! He also goes by the name of TweedleDummy. How appropriate!

Excelsior!

Mattrick

Ok, maybe I was a little generous last time. They are really getting tiresome now. Here's a snapshot of the statistics on the Thailand photos thread:

The Traveler: 9.5 irrelevant posts; 0.5 relevant
Terry Terrier: 4.0 irrelevant; 1 relevant
JuiceSpike: 3.5 irrelevant; 3.5 relevant
Freeler: 2.5 irrelevant; 0.5 relevant
Domino: 2 irrelevant; 0 relevant
Gladiator: 1 irrelevant; 1 relevant

(half points if the post contains at least some relevant information/pictures)

I make that 56% of posts on the first page alone are irrelevant to the forum in hand. I would guess that eliminating one perp would mostly stop the rest. Jackson, it's in your worthy hands - please make good use of them! Thanks.

I have to agree with the others. These posts and pictures need to be removed.

I have never reported anyone before, but to post others pictures or those that are obviously not their own is uncalled for.

Jackson if you could remove them from the Costa Rica section and ban him it would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dear Mr Jackson
I write in connection with my son, John T Domino who is so upset at your latest action against him that he can no longer get a woody from the dead skanks Dickhead draws his attention to.
He points out to me that Tweedle is also being attacked, simply because he is circumcized in some photos and uncircumized in others. Although Domino finds this no more surprising or unusual than some of the inconsistencies in The Traveler's photos, he does not worry too much about it and has tried to stay above it all; my little John likes to stay out of trouble and away from trouble makers like The Traveler and his pathetic friends. The Traveler has even taken to stealing one of Skinless' trademark lines now (Choirboys). and that is not nice.

My little John also has an aversion to dicks, all dicks, and he has even asked that nice little Juice Spike not to post any more photos of his nice little dick. He is a sensitive and hard working little monger. Please reconsider your latest action.

Suzy W Domino.

ps: what is the big deal about the photos anyway? Although we can all agree The Traveler and The Tweedle steal their photos, is it such a big deal as long as they do not totally clutter up the boards? I have only looked at a few of Tweedle's stolen photos but I would be glad of clarificaion as to why guys post/look at the photos which is the most popular part of your site? Is it
1. to get a hard on and jack off.
2, to boast.
3. to see what is out there.
4. to get revenge on the skanks who clapped them.
5. to prove their love to the skanks who clapped them.

Thanks for the PM Elversele,Hi Mistersolo.(will be home tomorrow at noon call me.)
Yeah it was expected, he is just trying to get attention, since his posting don`t get any.Everybody ignores him. I feel sorry for him.Since I also get a chance to vote, I also vote to BAN NIBU RAPHAEL.

Hi Jackson,

Please have a look at the Rio de Janeiro thread and clean it up a bit.

Thanks.
Junior

mickymonger
Regular Member
Reports: 8 escorts

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hello mate

i am contacting you on behalf of a friend in the uk who works for an escort agency. she is looking for someone to help recruit a few girls for work in england.
if you can help her name is tina her email address is [email]>>>>??????@yahoo.co.uk[/email] This is probaboy someone he just wants spammed

I want the admin to remove a post by Pro this week which made accusations against me of the worst kind and which are completely unsubstantiated.

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Boy, out of all the Australian women that you could have ran into, you ran into some slant eyed reject. I personally avoid the majority of Asian women in Australia. .[/QUOTE]

Jackson: The term slant eyed reject is abusive and racist. CBCG should refrain from spreading his racist tripe here. He says I am a gay SF hooker being butt fucked by Sergio (more anti Italian racism and homophobia) but, like the trolls on the Thai board, he should be reined in. Perhaps, like them, it is impossible to stop his juvenile outbursts.

Jackson,

I kindly ask you to finally end that nonsense in the Thai section which is caused by Domino's little personal war against me. He also keeps attacking other members who dare to differ from him.
Occasionally he manages to get support from his friends (e.g. Gladiator) who seem to like group bashing, but it originates from Domino and his bad attitude.

His constant rantings, flaming and character assassinations are a severe violation of the forum rules. Other posters have been banned for less.

It's already going on for almost 2yrs now and I wonder how much more patience you will have. As far as I understand you do know Domino and have met him in person. I guess this is the reason why you still tolerate his bad behaviour. In the past he had been a good poster and took part in the FAQs but this was long ago and I wonder if it is enough to allow him to constanly violate your rules and put the Thai section in turmoil again and again.

In the end it's your site and you have to decide what kind of posts you like to see in the forum but I thought the purpose of this forum is to help each other instead of bashing each other and fighting all the time.

Thank you

Jackson, any chance you can confine Domino to his new thread please? you created a thread in LOS, just so a few of these idiots could flame each other , without disrupting the other threads. Many have asked Domino to confine his venom to this new thread, to no avail. It would be wonderful if he could be put on a leash, at least in the Thai board, as it is getting very old.

thank you

jackson,

domino keeps insulting other members, posting hate messages and tries to put the thai forum into turmoil again.
this is not an occasional incident but a constant threat to all those who want to exchange infos in a peaceful environment.

i wonder how long you will let him do that and why did you set up posting rules but do not enforce them ?
it seems that you do care more about the form of a post than it's contents.

it's your site, but you have to decide what kind of posts you want to see here. if you don't take action and allow him to go on with it then you will be a part of the problem. his flaming has nothing to do with free speech and your inactivity regarding this matter will only worsen it.

in case you just tolerate his behaviour because you have met him (he claims to have met you) and think of him as being a friend, you should ask yourself what kind of friend he is, if he doesn't respect your hard work.

thank you

jackson,

here he is again, spoiling the atmosphere, trying to get rid of those who know what he does and what he is.

in this latest flame domino’s sin was to tell a lazy newbie, who had posted a question that had already been answered 1000’s of times before, to rtff, and then the paedo-traveler jumped on him as if he had committed a genocide.

some posters say they have met the paedo-traveler and he was a good guy, and i don’t doubt it – most paedophiles are, apparently, good guys who lead normal lives.

the paedo-traveler looks each day more and more desperate, he knows that there are a few of us (including you, jackson) who saw the pictures of all those (multiple) **** girls, as young as 15-16, that he intentionally abused, before they were deleted.

i’m sure that you remember that there were a few different (disgustingly young) girls and not only one 17 yo, as the paedo-traveler is continuously preaching in his defence, the paedo-traveler thinks that since most members are relatively new and weren’t here at the time he can get away with it. no one would have criticized the paedo-traveler for fucking just one 17 yo about to turn 18, the paedo-traveler was criticized because he had intentionally abused many clearly **** girls, he was (and still is) targeting them, breaking not only this forum’s rules by posting info about where and how to abuse them, but, most importantly, breaking thailand’s child prostitution laws.

some have been banned from this forum for requesting info about where to find minors, the only difference between them and the paedo-traveler is that the paedo-traveler already knows where to find them.

gladiator,

i didn't jump on domino for his aggressive reply to ljohnson's question, which was indeed never asked before. i just told domino that this forum was intended to share info and to help each other and that i make my own decisions if i will answer a question or not. i don't need domino to tell me if i am allowed to answer and to decide which questions might be asked.
this was just another example of his constant misbehaviour and why more and more members tend to ask me legitimate questions by pm instead of posting them in the appropriate section.

domino is also currently involved in fights with three guys - which were all started by him without being provoked.
what does it tell you ? who is the real troublemaker in the forum ?

i posted three pics - not four or five - of young looking thai girls, but none of them looked "disgustingly young".
one was a 17+yr old prostitute named nu who lied about her age and worked in a bar at pattaya soi 8. the second was a confirmed 18yr old prostitute named ging who was working in a bar in soi 6 and the third was a 17yr old which i saw in a bar in soi 7 but i did not take her, just issued a warning instead so others might avoid her.

furthermore you are misusing the term "****".
please provide the correct definition of a **** and compare it with what had really happen.

also have a short look at your wording. this isn't the post of a concerned adult, your agenda can be seen easily. you do lie by intention and misinform those who aren't involved and don't know the facts just to create a "case".
your agenda and tactics are clear, character assassination by constant repetition of your unjustified accusations - the word "****" occurs 10 times in your short post including wrong spelling - to burn it into the memory of other members. this has been going on for almost two years now and you guys won't find an end.

it's also quite remarkable, that you didn't even lost a word about those who said that they never check ids and that they give shit if a girl is of legal age or not, a prostitute is a prostitute for them. i am your only target. that makes it even more clear that this is only about your little personal war and that you don't care about the issue.

you try to give the impression that i target ****d and provide info on how and where to find them, so it should be an easy task for you to provide a link to any of these imaginary posts.
btw, as you just said, i have met many members and went mongering with them, some of them even have been with me almost around the clock (e.g. tapioca) but nobody confirmed your unjustified accusations. isn't it strange or do you imply that they are "****s" ?

if i would target ****d, would i admit to have run into that 17+yr old and issue a warning or would i keep it for myself ? which behaviour is more likely and logical ?

domino started to attack me about a month after i posted those pics, neither him nor you had any problem with those pics until i dared to make an innocent joke about domino aka skinless. after that he looked for something to start an argument and tried to get support from his few friends for a joined attack on me. he was obviously successful with it in your case.

don't you also wonder that only domino and you keep attacking me but no other members support him ? in fact, many people told me by pm that you guys are morons and that i should ignore you.

you also forgot to mention that jackson had no prob with these pics as well, he just deleted them on my request when i tried to stop skinless aka domino's flaming.

you also try to make us believe that jackson does share your point of view, which isn't the case. in fact he told me shortly after domino started that personal war against me that [i][b]"personally, i think the other members were either deliberatly misunderstanding your intent, or they were just looking for an excuse to start an argument, or both.[/i][/b]

anyway, someone like you should be the last to accuse someone else of targeting ****d. you said [i]"if a girl looks like 18, i will fuck her"[/i] and acted accordingly, so you obviously don't care about the age of a girl.

no need to lie about all those facts, they are documented in here.

Jackson,

sorry that I did quote out of your PM.
I usually don't do that, but since you keep silent just watching it, I thought it is necessary to do so, because your objectivity and patience is wrongly intrepreted as support by those who are constantly looking for trouble.

[quote=the traveler]i posted three pics - not four or five - of young looking thai girls, but none of them looked "disgustingly young".
one was a 17+yr old prostitute named nu who lied about her age and worked in a bar at pattaya soi 8. the second was a confirmed 18yr old prostitute named ging who was working in a bar in soi 6 and the third was a 17yr old which i saw in a bar in soi 7 but i did not take her, just issued a warning instead so others might avoid her.[/quote]

here is a clear proof of a self-confessed child-abuser at denial stage.

they all looked disgustingly young (not to you, though) and that’s why a lot of guys reported the pics straightaway to jackson so that they were deleted immediately.

there were at least 4-5 different girls, all of them **** according not only to their childish looks but also to your comments above their pictures.

all the pictures were taken in your room, none of them was outdoors, so did you invite these **** girls to your room just to take pictures of them? yes, sure…

i remember those pictures, most of the guys that were members at the time probably remember them too, not every day a paedophile turns up on this forum posting pictures of child-looking, clearly **** girls who he has happened to fuck ‘by accident’.

paedo-traveler,

since i joined this discussion -on your own request- a couple of months ago i’ve been telling you that these aren’t insults or flames, this is just my opinion based on what i’ve seen and what i’ve read. this is just friendly advice, as i’ve said before.

you, however, won’t rehabilitate simply by reading my posts, you need proper professional counselling and treatment: arrange an appointment with a psychiatrist, show him all the pics of thai **** girls that you posted here (and any others you may have) and tell him that you flew half-way around the world in order to abuse them.

listen to his diagnosis and then follow his advice and course of treatment.

not only will it be of benefit to you, but, most importantly, it will benefit your potential future victims: thai children.

gladiator,

as usual you make statements about someone you don't know about and do lie by intention just to create a "case". why not read back in the appropriate section why the pics were deleted ? it's documented there that jackson only deleted them because i asked him to do so.

you also avoid to provide any evidence for your accusations and where are the requested links to those posts you complained about ?

btw, your posts already disqualify you, since everybody with a bit of common sense can see through you.

anyway, your commitment and dedication to that issue seems to be limited to insults and flames. as you might know, prostitution - especially of ****d - is often caused by poverty and lack of opportunities due to lack of education. because of that i am a regular donator to the father ray foundation, which runs an orphanage in pattaya. i have already provided proof for that by posting a photo of a letter from the fr. ray foundation. i have also asked you and domino to put some actions behind your empty words and to donate some money as well. your response was nothing.

so it's quite obvious that you aren't really concerned about that issue and just misuse it for your little stupid personal war against me. someone like you, who values a few bucks over those poor children should better keep quiet, especially someone with your history.

remember, [u]you said [i]"if she looks 18 i will fuck her"[/i] and of course you acted accordingly [/u]!
so you already told us that you in fact do not care if you fuck ****d or not.

anyway, you and your pal domino have repeatedly put the thai section into turmoil and now you try to do that again in here ?
where is the benefit in it for the forum ?

if you can't control yourself and need to flame me, why not do it in the sandbox jackson set up for crap like that or move it to pm. or do you need an audience ?

you guys have threatened me several times but each time i offered you to meet me you declined. so why don't you have the balls to threaten me in the real world ?

have a look at the travel plans section in the thai forum to find out what the other members think about domino and people like you.
i am not willing to keep that nonsense going on forever, therefore you will be ignored from now on.

respect jackson's hard work and try to remember the purpose of this forum.

[QUOTE=The Traveler] If you can't control yourself and need to flame me, why not do it in the sandbox Jackson set up for crap like that or move it to PM. Or do you need an audience ?

You guys have threatened me several times but each time I offered you to meet me you declined. So why don't you have the balls to threaten me in the real world ?[/QUOTE]

Lies, lies and more lies… that’s the only thing we can expect from someone like The Traveler.

The Traveler,

I’ve never threatened you nor have you ever invited me to meet you, you know it and all the regulars in the Thai forum know it too, even those who are most sympathetic towards you. Once again you are getting caught in your own puerile lies.

Anyway, meeting me won’t solve your problem because I’m not a specialist in the rehabilitation of child abusers; sadly I wouldn’t be able to help you, I could only tell you that you should arrange an appointment with a good professional in that field, explain to him your adventures in the paedophile circles of Pattaya, your perverted attraction for orphanages and, above all, show him all the photos of your disgustingly young victims.

In fact, that’s the only advice I can give you: look for help, traveler, you need it.

I can copy and paste this advice and send you a PM if you like or I can also paste it into one of the couple of sandboxes with your name on them, which Jackson had to create specifically to keep your BS away from the rest of us.

he should be banned and not have his special column.

Jackson: Please see iball's complaint against me quoted in full, as well as a pm from him showing he deliberately flames; iball.iball, you may recall, is the "gentleman" who posted a nude photo of a very little girl in the middle of a fight about fuckling little girls and wondered why anyone objected to him doing showing a naked girl for titillation purposes. Please also note, for what it is worth,
1. 1ball is now officially on my ignore list. This is despite all the advice and information he got frorm me, none of which was or could be reciprocated as he is a one trick act.
2. iball has attacked Gladiator and Freeler because of The Traveler, aka &&&&&. Please note that Gladiator gave an excellent overall take on Pattaya and, in that sense, his posts would have to be among the very best. He regards Pattaya as a big durian, there solely for his benefit. As Iball, meanwhile, just flits in and out to Bangkok, he should maybe confine his comments to the Travel Plans/Lonely Mongers corner. Freeler has supplied more detailed and pertinent information than anyone else. The fact that iball cannot see that there is no difference between Beach Road and other skanks is iball's problem, no one else's. If he wants to pay more, that is nothing to shout about. The Big Breasted One, who worked as bargirl, go go and feelancer, was the same basic person in all three "entry level" positions.
3. iball says I should be caged. Please note that is plagiarizing an earlier request by Firedick concerning Samas Aran. Even there, he could not be original but just is his same, sad choir boy parrot.
4. Samus Aran was in the original spat here between Skinless, Bo Bo and Zxelda. Bo Bo was a total psycho with a real world reputation to back it up. Skinless talked Bi Bo out of it with help from Xzeldwa. The Traveler simply took more effort. But he too is beginnng to see the error of his ways. The point here is Samus is not a violent or aggressive person. He makes a point that is worth making over and over again. It is good to disagree and having Samus to disagree with should make mongers pause to ponder on the Cognito ergo sum principle. But some people do not want to think and others are incapable of thinking with anything but their very little heads:). They simply want to boast about the young farmyard girls they bonk. They are pathetic. I wil pray for them all at church where I am going to pick up the most beautiful chick I have ever seen in the Philippines. I think I am in love.
5. Finally Jackson, have you been to Mindanao? I ask because all the pimps calls their charges chicks, same same as you.

Now bye bye for now. Time for pussy.
And bye bye 1ball. You are now cast out into the realms of darkness. No more free advice from me:)

[QUOTE=1ball]Jackson, any chance you can confine Domino to his new thread please? you created a thread in LOS, just so a few of these idiots could flame each other , without disrupting the other threads. Many have asked Domino to confine his venom to this new thread, to no avail. It would be wonderful if he could be put on a leash, at least in the Thai board, as it is getting very old.

thank you[/QUOTE]
1ball
Senior Member
Reports: 513 dickhead

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I see traveler has picked up where you and I left off. Here goes another Traveler / Skinless discussion LOL

BTW, that photo of the monks that skinless took is still there. i saved it to my hard drive, just in case i need it down the road

Hey pizza boy, if you are going to complain about someone, at least get the name right.

Domino,

you should be the last to complain about other members.

You like to put the forum into turmoil again and again and again ... You and your few "friends" enjoy group bashing, you also use to threaten other members besides calling them names, insulting them and making unjustified accusations.

You constantly violate the following forum rules :
Discussions of Sex with Minors (under 18), Repetitive Postings, Personal Insults & Attacks, Hate Messages, Racist Messages, Deliberate Disinformation, General BS

You also like to lecture others and try to tell them, when and where to post what, or not to post at all. This is not your forum, if you like to play God, set up your own site and play your little kindergarden games there.

We are mature guys who like to exchange infos in a peaceful environment on how and where to find women, exchanging travel infos and helping each other. Nobody is interested in your little personal wars you like to start because of your ever boring life.

Grow up, get a life and respect the other members of that site and not to forget Jackson's hard work for us.

1ball,

spelling was never Domino's forte, even though he likes to lecture others and complains about their writing styles.

Great pic, spot on. :)

[Quote=Face Pisser]Tee it up has spoken the gospel truth. Clandestine is a self proclaimed African American who's ashamed of his people's past and claiming to be "better" (educated), but instead of changing the worlds' perceptions, he's taking advantage of young desperate girls from third world nations and bragging about it...he should be in jail or, at the very least, getting ***** slapped by the WSG members who frequent PI.

Is it no wonder that we have an HIV epidemic in this world?

In previous posts, Clandestine talks about having the worst case of Gonorrhea in the "history of the world", yet he's he's still looking for bareback sex...HELLO McFly...! His attitude is common amoung AA's (selfish and lazy). They should be banned from PI. Let's face it, PI is one of the last places on EARTH where a good, decent person can find the girl of his dreams. A girl that has not been VICTIMIZED by the diseases of Clandestine, Asian Rain and "lil' fella" Deep Diver. The less PI is exposed to these diseased "homies" the better. IMHO.

The truth will set you free.[/Quote]


Excuse me [b]Traveler, 1ball[/b] and [b]Domino & Co[/b] to butt into your private rant here (maybe you guys could get together and write a book because you have written so much about so little?)

[b]Jackson,[/b]

Anyway, if this post were not bad enough, but it turns out that [b]Face Pisser, Tee It Up[/b] and [b]Dashing Don[/b] are in fact the same person. This idiot is hiding behind various alias to bring the forum into disrepute, with his little racist rants and he (all three alias should be kicked off the forum), period!

Its not like I have ever seen one post from this pathetic guy anyway who is either a very sad lonely individual or mentally derange, either way he needs help not a platform to post his nonsense from.

Regards, l appreciate all your hard work and effort you put into the forum and lets keep this site moving forward not backward.


Juniour

Junior
I have out the two wankers you mention on my Ignore list and I am informed they are now following my example like the silly little kf puppies that they are.
The Traveler, incidentally, believes anyone going to the Phils (or Kenya) goes there to fuck children. That includes you as well as iball and some others. I was going to go to Negros but the flames on the Negros board turned me off.
Dashing Don, from what I can gather, is a straight enough guy who goes to places to fuck women. I strongly doubt he is using any alias. He did post a useful post in the Skinless/KF thread and that indicates he is not playing any games. The others i don't know but there does seem to be a lot of flaming in the Phils sections. I am too busy bonking to engage in that stuff so I leave it to kf, iball and the others.

Junior,

agreed, it's not that 1ball or me are into such thing, but there is a problem named Domino aka Skinless.
If you look at the Thai forum you will see that Jackson felt the need to create 3 new threads so far, just to move the stupid discussion Domino aka Skinless ignited.

He is stalking me for two years now and it is quite boring sometimes. He hasn't provided anything of value to the forum during the last two years. His posts usually consist of rantings against other members, degrading comments about Thai people in general, the Royal family and especially P4P girls. He likes to provoke other members and tries to tell them what to do.

He is the Osama bin Laden of that forum, you have to follow his self made rules and if you dare to differ your character will be assassined by unjustified accusation and constant insults and flaming.

In short, he is a disgrace for the forum and for human mankind.

Jackson,

Need some asprin?

Jackson,

Please refer to the section on German Partytreff clubs. A number of regular users would love you to please cleanse the forum of posts from CBGBConnisur . He is ruining the forum. Please see the same requests of others inthe forum.

Thank you
Sorcerer

[Quote=FP/TIU/Dashing Don]
"my post was an attempt at [u]satire[/u] and that I thought discussions about race in the PI was worthwhile discussion topic"[/quote]


[Quote=FP/TIU/Dashing Don]
His attitude is common amoung AA's (selfish and lazy). They should be banned from PI. Let's face it, PI is one of the last places on EARTH where a good, decent person can find the girl of his dreams. A girl that has not been VICTIMIZED by the diseases of Clandestine, Asian Rain and "lil' fella" Deep Diver. The less PI is exposed to these diseased "homies" the better. IMHO. [/quote]

Sorry… FP/TIU/DD, I didn’t quite get the joke bit and please explain the “satire” to me?

But we do agree that people who post pure [i]bogu[/i]s and [i]racist[/i] information should be banned on here.


Juniour

Jackson,

I second Sorcerer's request banning CBGBConnisur. He is fucking up the German FKK forum and everyone there is getting pretty fed up with the guy. He keeps interfering with his rambling as well as degrading sexist and racist remarks. Please make him go away.

Chivaz

Agree that CBGB should be banned for continued racist remarks. More complaints about "slant-eyed Asians" in the AW forum. Basically an asshole and not a very logical or high-level thinker, either.

I agree 100% with DH & Chivaz.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]Agree that CBGB should be banned for continued racist remarks. More complaints about "slant-eyed Asians" in the AW forum. Basically an asshole and not a very logical or high-level thinker, either.[/QUOTE]

Dickhead is silly. If he were old enough, every Jap would be a slant-eyed invader, and unable to motivate very far in New York without getting his/her ass kicked.

We're gotten a bit bond that, and while there are still people who are unhappy about their sons and kin being resentful about the two generations ago who were willing to give us up their lives in order to cause us pain. The there is a new order in Japan, who recognizes some past problems.

I've divested myself of my far east monkey and whale research, but if anyone is interested, I think this bunch would be happy with your participations.

Regards.

Jim

Hi Jackson,

We currently have a poster on the Thai board, Yodsaker (6 posts...), who flames and flames and flames, but doesn't post shit.

Regards,
Freeler

This man is not happy unless he is trying to start disagreements among members. This has to be very obvious to you as it certainly is to other members. I, and it is my belief that many other members here would second it, if you would discontinue his membership on your site. We most certainly do not need his type. Thank You!

[QUOTE=Freeler]Hi Jackson, We currently have a poster on the Thai board, Yodsaker (6 posts...), who flames and flames and flames, but doesn't post shit. [/QUOTE]
Not true. Several of Yodsaker's posts are in response to iball, who has a lot more than 6 idiotic posts. Also, Yodsaker informed some new choir boy about photo taking in Eden, which is information for those who do not rttf.
If new and/ or regular members are going to be jumped on when they respond to flames by karaoke members like 1ball, you have a problem, Mr Jackson.

Nota bene: for the Thai board peasants: the Japanese word karaoke means empty orchestra,

Domino,

If you feel that way...
But he should still be banned for naming his handle after a Soi.
Normal people have streets named after them.
Domino Square, Freeler Avenue, 1Ball Alley, Jackson Plaza:D

Juice Boulevard... I like it.

juicer

spent some time with a couple of WSG old timers in BKK the last few nights, and of course, topic always turns to some of the crazies on the board, who belongs in a straight jacket, who needs medicating, and who needs a labotomy, along with a week with Miss Manners. it's always the same person, strange.
and just 10 minutes ago, I get this PM from another buddy. (name withheld so he doesn't have to suffer the wrath of the fucking certifiable idiotic lunatic.)

"Noticed Domino dissing you in the "complaints against members" thread. Astonishing- that guy seems to hate everyone."

Sad when these people are allowed to roam freely.

Freeler: not bad but a few pointers.
1. Some names have class, my ones being obvious examples.
2. Yours is not bad either. Indeed, I hage heard tell that Isaan skanks now say "I was freelered last night" and "Did he freeler you"? Look up the OED for meaning. Note: some skanks say freelered and others say freeled.
3. Juice Boulevard is nonsensical. Now A Juice Monument, soaring skyward might make sense as someone of that name has a penchant for photographing his own Washington/Trafalgar Monument. It would make some sense for skanks to be freelered there.
4. Some plain names have cred. Jackson is a good example: town, cty, name, anonymous but solid. Other such names don't make the cut.
5. Perhaps Jackson should take the handle into account when deciding on senior membership. Maybe we could ask skanks to determne if the newbie's name signifies someone who freelers or who makes the skanks fall down like dominoes.
6. Now i am off to Jackson's latest survey to complain of senior members chit chatting.
7. To avoid others complaining of this post, last night's lady (Manila section) was perfect. This is the big one: perfect.

1ball,

"Sad when these people are allowed to roam freely."

Who? Your buddy:D?

[QUOTE=Freeler]1ball,

"Sad when these people are allowed to roam freely."

Who? Your buddy:D?[/QUOTE]

Sorry Freeler, I guess that might have been left to interpretation. I was referring to Mr. Moronic Lobotomy himself, not you. funny how I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't think he is in serious need of psychiatric help.

[quote=On The Go]This man is not happy unless he is trying to start disagreements among members. This has to be very obvious to you as it certainly is to other members. I, and it is my belief that many other members here would second it, if you would discontinue his membership on your site. We most certainly do not need his type. Thank You![/Quote]


Thanks for your post On The Go but unfortunately, through your obvious ignorance you have made some false claims that are 100% wrong, l will help clear up for you.

First, l do not and have never started any argument among members, go back and look at how "arguments" you claim I have started- the answer is 0. l just tell it “as it is” and will stand up for myself to the clowns who want to be bullies.

If you can recall you posted a pathetic question, no one responded, then you posted a second demanding that someone should answer, and when Eskapat tried to assist you and you respond by flaming him. I suggest you go back and look at your post to Eskapat, and then read it again, you’re obviously confused here, l merely responded to your last post. I see you don’t like to receive it but are quiet happy to dish it out,

Second, I am very happy thank you but l do not have time for people who post bogus information of which there are many. But your post and the other dumb ass questions I often see on the forum never fail to amuse me.

Third, instead of making demands on the forum demanding people answer your pointless questions, why don’t you get with the program and actually [b][u]try[/u][/b] posting some information?

And finally, as you obviously find the Dominican Republic a dangerous country I don’t know why you are now going to the Philippines, have you checked the travel advice recently – I suggest you just stick with Disneyland instead?

Send me a pm if you want discuss.

[size=1]PS Has your mother signed your permission slip for your trip for the Philippines? And as for the others here telling tales on one another, shame on you all, you all know what happened to the little girl who cried wolf.[/size]

1ball,

Never thought for a moment that that was meant for me.
However, using my mathematical skills to digest the message you wrote, it is quite clear that "these people" refers to your buddy!

Also, "WSG old timers" has me puzzled. How long exactly does one have be around here to be an old timer?

Freeler: The ignore button works wonders. iball deserves a prominent place on any such list.
If you are trying to get regular members to trighten up their requests on the Thai board, good luck. Easier than getting the chit chat club to stop their empty posts. On the plus side: Notice how The Traveler and iball have not posted any more kiddy porn photos in the two years since the Skinless/KFC thread began.

[quote=domino]freeler: the ignore button works wonders. iball deserves a prominent place on any such list.
if you are trying to get regular members to trighten up their requests on the thai board, good luck. easier than getting the chit chat club to stop their empty posts. on the plus side: notice how the traveler and iball have not posted any more kiddy porn photos in the two years since the skinless/kfc thread began.[/quote]

d, you fucking moron, how can you know what i post if you have me on ignore. you are such a fucking idiot, your stupidity knows no bounds, it is pathetic. i repeat what i said, you are in serious need of medicine and psychiatric help.

get a life you freak.

ps. does anyone out there have something nice to say abt this clown? as it stands, the dozen or so guys i have met who have read him, just shake their head. some feel pity for him, some feel, like i do, that his siblings probably used his head as a punching bag, when he was a child.

oh, freeler, the old timers i was talking about have been around for several years, in other words, long enough to still remember the lunatic rantings of skinless. i don't want to mention names, because as soon as one disgrees with " his lunacy", one is subject to the childish crying of a little baby, who has just be spanked on his bottom. ( sorry, "your lunacy", was that a **** comment? ).

[quote=1ball]
ps. does anyone out there have something nice to say abt this clown? as it stands, the dozen or so guys i have met who have read him, just shake their head. some feel pity for him, some feel, like i do, that his siblings probably used his head as a punching bag, when he was a child.
[/quote]

1ball,

i have something nice to say about our "beloved" self-declared state attorney, judge and hangman combined in one person.

he often were the source of great amusement for my friends and me. reading his insane posts, his rantings against almost everyone who dared to differ, his insane and contradicting statements, his unbelievable ignorance and stupidity was indeed an interesting literature.

i forwarded his posts to a female friend of mine (not ****d of course) who is currently writing her dissertation about mental illnesses. she told me that mr. domino gives a great example what drugs and an empty life can do to a persons mind.

Freeler,

as we all know, your buddy Domino is a sad existence but due to his sick mind he really believes in the crap he says. Therefore he is excused and rather subject of an analysis what a damaged brain might produce as output.

You on the other hand have a clear mind but do only join into his little personal war for the fun of it. Therefore you are worse from my point of view. You should think twice if you follow him in his insane attempts on attacking other members you have never met and don't know shit about.

Thank you.

[quote=domino]freeler: the ignore button works wonders. iball deserves a prominent place on any such list.
if you are trying to get regular members to trighten up their requests on the thai board, good luck. easier than getting the chit chat club to stop their empty posts. on the plus side: notice how the traveler and iball have not posted any more kiddy porn photos in the two years since the skinless/kfc thread began.[/quote]
judge domino,

i know you would prefer to rather act like judge dredd (remember your idol sylvester stallone) but he wasn't scared to show up and didn't talk as much as you what he would do. he just did it.

maybe someone will take the effort to make a statistic to show how many of your posts of the last two years contain rantings and attacks against other members, how many of them did contain any info about thailand or any info at all and how many were just empty and sinless sputum of your sick brain.

anyway, i need your advice.
since you seem to have a fetish with ****d - bringing up that issue all the time - i would like to know what to do.

it came to my mind that i have still been an ****d during my first years in thailand and all the girls who had sex during that time with me had raped me (a 16-17yr old "kid", not able to decide for myself). so i had repeatedly been raped by 18-20yr old "women" . they had used me, sometimes free of charge (that isn't covered by the "thai prostitution act", isn't it ?), sometimes by separating me from my money (is that a theft ?)

so what should i do ? should i try to find and sue them ? they are kiddyfuckers and deserve to be sentenced to jail at best. you as an expert in that matter should know what to do. i trust in your wisdom regarding that matter.

please help !


p.s. since you claim to have finished our posting of kiddy porn pictures since you started that crusade, i would be interested in how many of these kind of pictures had been posted in the years before. please provide a few links as proof. thanks

jackson: the posts of the traveler and scewball/iball/iball speak for themselves. luckily, they are on my ignore it so i don't have to wade through hem (and cannot when i am logged in: this point is beyond screwball, whose idea of contributing to the site is to post a photo of a naked little girl)
as the traveler remains in denial about his penchant for sexually abusing little girls and as screwal/iball cannot post without using expletives and derogatory language about fellow members, it is tiresome replying to them (as it is trying to argue with perverts in denial about their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] complexes), i suggest you simply delete their needlessly offensive posts, beginning with those in this section. screwball's multiple postings here merely confirms he is a serial antagonist who likes to clutter up the thai board with his juveline jottings.
if a newbie asks: is nana girl friendly and is jumped on and then replies that "i only asked..." and then gets jumped on again by screwball or some other semi literate trailer trash type, the trash is just as guilty of spamming as is the newbie (more so, as being a senior member, they should set an example). i would respectfully add that a newbie was jumped on for this question and domino belatedly replied with the new information that more than 2 ladies at a time may be a problem in nana. screwball's attack on a newbie with 6 posts is at the basis of their latest rash of spam posts and screwball has already admitted that they do this for a laugh and to fill up their empty days.
i personally think the site has gone downhill in some ways since the photo proliferation happened: as evidence of this, you now have a sugar baba thread to free up the china photo section. i personally think the thai thread is beyond redemption as too many white trash can get there too easily where they spend their time talking about me and similar beings who have a life beyond abusing little giirls. when i have met members, the riff raff barely figured in converstation as, being low life losers, they are not worth it.
i would suggest, however, that you change the stated objectives of this social experiment of yours to incorporate your take on the photo sections and on the endless, pointless chit chat that screwball, chester and life's other losers engage in. just what are the purposes of this site?
in the major mongering destinations of pattaya, angeles etc, there should be a core of useful information, beyond which is fluff. photos of ladies are, in many ways fluff and are not germane to the experiences of future mongers. if each photo is worth a 1000 words, how many are a site full of photos worth? too many. focus, focus, focus methinks.

you're right, Trav, he is amusing in his dementia. However I am tiring of him, like the little flea that he is, so I think I shall pretend he got squashed. Though as usual, he deserves his own thread, the "laughing at The Freak" thread.

Though as an afterthought, how can The Freak know I jumped on someone with 5 or 6 derogatory posts, if he has me on ignore. I am puzzled by this. I, myself, had him on ignore for a while, but missed the dementia, so I allowed him to be seen again.

1ball,

i am also wondering how he could know about the contents of my posts if i am on his ignore list. obviously he is too much interested in me to really put me there.

furthermore he likes to complain about other members but never evaluates his own behaviour. if there is a fight in the thai section then there is a very good chance of 99% that judge domino takes part in it, or better that he ignited it.

regarding his complains about photos i can only guess that he ran out of pics or finally found out that he had never taken any pics that could be named "tasteful" and should be posted in this forum. besides the fact that jackson obviously expected that pics of girls/women in the sex biz should be posted and not pics of little ****d isaan boys, big wads of chump change or thai monks with nasty comments about them.

the pics of "his women" don't need to be commented on, they speak for themselve. everybody who isn't blind or didn't get blind by looking at those "beatiful ladies" knows what i am talking about. he sometimes even beats the pics at the kiwi section, which are really the worst i have ever seen.

nevertheless, if he believes that his contributions are more worth than those of other members or wants to set up rules for others (which shouldn't be valid for him of course) i suggest he asks jackson to promote his status to co-moderator.

but i agree with domino that the site has been downhill since jackson allowed hangman domino to constantly violate his forum rules without being punished.

dear sir domino,

i am still waiting for your advice in the below matter.
i had sleepless nights and weren't able to eat since it came to my mind that i have been raped by these kiddyfucking thai women.

i also renewed my request directly to the pope to have you immediately canonized but the "pope said nope".

try harder to bring good to the world and he might consider to canonize you after you passed away. you can speed it up, did you know that ?

Jackson,

I have just received the below PM from a member named "Bob Knox" with a post counter of 0.

Guess banning him doesn't make sense but if you would only allow members (not necessarily Senior Members) with at least 50-100 posts to send PMs we could get rid of such things.

[QUOTE=Bob Knox]

[b]Recruiting opportunity for you[/b]

Hi my name is bob knox from kent. A friend of mine is just starting up an escort agency for girls to join nationally in the UK. He has premises for girls to work out of that cannot work from home or girls can do out calls.

He has asked me if I can help promote the agency by recruiting girls. I have been on International sex guide before and thought it a good place to ask someone like yourself if you could ask any girls that you may meet up with if they would like to join the agency.

They would get an interview & promoted via the agency. They are giving a £50 incentive to any guys if a girl comes directly from a guy and starts actually working for the agency. They will pay guys £50 for every girl that becomes a agency girl. He is looking for girls of any nationallity UK or abroad between 18 & 25yo of reasonable attractiveness.

If you can help please email me direct at [email]xxxxxxx@yahoo.com[/email] & I will pass your message on

Thanks Bob
[/QUOTE]

Jackson you should find away to stop people from having 3 handles. I for one think in The Colombia section that Peter Solano,Eversele and Mister Solo are the same 3 people.. What Moron Would love to have 3 handles? Now You Tell Me Guys? This Stuff must sop in the future.

[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael]Jackson you should find away to stop people from having 3 handles. I for one think in The Colombia section that Peter Solano,Eversele and Mister Solo are the same 3 people.. What Moron Would love to have 3 handles? Now You Tell Me Guys? This Stuff must sop in the future.[/QUOTE]
IF that is true PROVE IT, otherwise SHUT UP, do you think for one minute the way you have been crapping on this forum by posting so much shit would last you forever? So now, anybody that knocks you is me? YOU are a bigger idiot that I thought. And I and A lot of other people believe YOU and LIMA BUSY are one, the posting style DUDE and the crap is the same.The times I have told you straight to your stupid face what a moron YOU ARE, I have signed with MY OWN NAME, NO BODY here does that. I don`t have to hide behind phoney handles to tell you what everybody here and at Thebanker`s knows. YOU ARE AN IDIOT Signed, with mty own name, PETER SOLANO.

Hi jackson, I am sure you have been enjoying the relative calm in the Thai board, after your very wise decision to deal with Domino, but there is another problem. Steen22 is delibarately posting photos of ladyboys, and bragging about his bisexual exploits. Could you please remove all his LB photos, and ban the guy? he is very twisted,
thank you

How in the hell do you find the time to deal with this bullshit?

Hello Jackson,

I am posting in response to the king of the flamers at the moment "Tee It Up" who has 38 posts total on your board. In responding to the post he made to you about me, I think you will see I have made considerable contributions to your board expressing my opinions, thoughts, and sharing helpful information on my travel experiences, as well as posting pictures. I do my very best to follow the rules and guidelines you set forth and will continue to do so. On the other hand "Tee It Up" is continuing to upset other members with his posting with another series of flames and name calling posted today against Frequent Flier, Juniour, and now me. I hope you read this guys previous posts and take some action against him in the betterment of the rest of the members of your board. Thank you!

Jackson,

Here's a PM I recd. from KOS on 11/17/05. Why is this guy even on the board? He has not posted a single piece of useful or intelligent information.

Crypton.


U nigger
i KNOW ALL IN COLOMBIA,
GO FUCK A NIGGER CRACK ***** FOR 5 DOLLARS U NIG LOVER

KOS
I OWN YOU

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it contained links to a competing Forum.

This may come as a surprise to some of you, but you CANNOT use my forum to start or otherwise promote your own or another Forum. This includes Delphi, Google, or Yahoo groups.

The Forum's policy regarding the posting of links to other websites is clearly stated in the Forum FAQ, but I'll re-state it here for additional clarity:

1. You [u]ARE ENCOURAGED[/u] to post links to other websites that are purely informational, meaning websites that provide information in the way of text reports, maps, photos, etc.

2. You [u]MAY NOT[/u] post links to other websites that include a forum of any sort, either as a part of the website or with a link to another url with a forum.

3. You [u]MAY[/u] post links to other websites that are essentially commercial in nature so long as they do not include pornographic material and do not charge a fee of any sort to view the website. Essentially, this means personal escort websites.

4. You [u]MAY NOT[/u] post links to commercial websites that charge a fee of any sort.

If you want to start your own forum, then you can build your traffic the way I did, with hard work and a lot of time.

Senior Members who violate this policy will be downgraded to Regular Membership.

Regular Members who violate this policy will be downgraded to Viewing Membership.

Repeated violations will result in the perpetrator being banned from the Forum.

Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines and the Forum's FAQ for further information.

[i]Thanks[/i],

Jackson[/blue]

jackson,

please either ban or confine james d to his own thread. two weeks ago, he, under a half -assed pretense of providing a cure to the "american woman blues", started babbling incoherently about his (in my opinion, mostly fantasy and delusional) exploits with his local prostitutes on the american women board.

a. he is disrupting communication on the board. as a guess, i would say that 65-70% of the posts in the last two weeks have been either his non-sensical babbling, or others negatively reacting to his non-sensical babbling. i could not imagine being a newbie, and trying to find some valid content around the mess that the board has become.

b. his posts are consistently and substantively off-topic, could probably be construed as trolling, or "general bs"....and probably in violation of several other rules, like posting professional photographs.

c. he does have a couple of "supporters" who do say that they are enjoying his posts. however even one of these members states that james is posting in the wrong area.

james is has been asked nicely and not so nicely to go post somewhere else. he responds to criticism by asserting that anyone who doesn't understand him isn't "high level" enough...he seems to be claiming that his non-sensical babbling is a combination of a speed reading/writing technique, and esperanto grammar.

thanks,

b9k

hello jackson, Id like to file a complain agains KOS, King of Sluts. Has send several insulting privates and has made several remarks against me in his own thread,

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Jackson, I haven't submitted a complaint about another member for several years, but my restraint where it comes to this nonsensical ******* is at its end. In the AW board, he submitted maybe one or two useful comments early on (and I'm being NICE when I say that), but all the rest are just idiotic babbling and attention-seeking flaming. He should be jettisoned out of an airlock in space, never to return. I am but one of many who want this scumbag kicked out...

Hi jackson,

Please clean up the Rio board - there are too many timewasters and hatemails flying around.


Junior

hello jackson,
please ban humble thurd from isg.
do we really need someone who writes "and as for us, foreign sex-tourists? of course we wouldn't do it because it is illegal, but hands up, how many wouldn't line up to get a good seat to watch the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of a british backpacker. of course, we would trample each other for the 'opera-seats'. would be the show of the century"?
i think we do not...
thanks

alejandro

Jackson,

As you know, you have confined James D 2004 to his own thread. However, in definance of your confinement, he has innumerable other identities (most notably ownaford1994) that he uses to be a nuisance (trolling) on the American Women, and also Marrying foreign women board. Granted, he isn't as bad as he was pre-confinement, but in light of your action, we shouldn't have to be having this discussion. I understand that you have the capacity to ban all ID's coming from the unique identifier of his PC/isp. Please do so.

B9K

I don't actually know too much about (not techie guy) proxy servers and so forth....I assume from the context that they can be utilized to mask the unique identity of a pc/isp.

That being the case, here is a thought. Although dumbshit may have an infinite capacity to make up ID's, he has a limited number of Senior Member ID's. To the extent of my knowledge, the only one he has is the Ownaford1994. If we can get that one, and any other ID's he has booted (in my understanding, they should be registered by the unique identity) , he will have to start again as a regular member....and have all of his posts reviewed by Jackson prior to addition to the board. Do you think he can behave himself in an ID for six months?

B9K

Fkkguide is advertising his own commercial "escort" service. He links to his own page that offers to escort people on a FKK tour of Germany. Every post with in this link. This is a clear violation of your rules.

Hello Jackson

I am requesting that you ban Honolulu Jimmy from the Thai board. He consistently posts pics that are not his own. As a trained photographer, I can gaurantee that all or nearly all his pics have been lifted from other sources.

I like Honolulu Jimmy's pics for their entertainment value. I'm sure there are many stolen from other websites (just look at the file names for easy-to-spot clues which sites), but IMHO it is up to the original owners of those photos to come forth and enter their objections to their use here. The ones I don't like are the ones he took, which have nothing but the ugliest skanks doing regular stuff (laundry), and who probably aren't working girls. Those should be the first ones to go.

My problem with HJ is his barbaric mangling of the English language, despite his claim it is his primary one. Not a cause for banishment or censure though.

If Jackson caged every forum member who posted a stolen pic, there would be a helluva lot of new threads.

However; since his caging he has managed to insult Jackson, and post a link to a competing forum.

my 2 pesos

Spokane boy is asking questions about Ladyboys in the Thai forum.
there are enough problems there, without adding this.
please can you do something about this.

PS. How did this get through? Aren't regular member posts screened ?

I do not know if it is my right to complain since I am not a poster on your wonderful site, but your Philippine and Colombian threads are being made a mockery of by one person who is using many different ids. This person is really causing problems and I suggest for the integrity of your site you send him and all his various ids to there own thread as you have done with others who have become problems. Prov1, Dashing Don, Guinness, and now Vaiojr are the same person. It is very obvious if you check there IRL and if you read there posts. I hope you look in to this matter for the benefit of your good members.

Thank You,

J. C.

[QUOTE=Numero One]I do not know if it is my right to complain since I am not a poster on your wonderful site, but your Philippine and Colombian threads are being made a mockery of by one person who is using many different ids. This person is really causing problems and I suggest for the integrity of your site you send him and all his various ids to there own thread as you have done with others who have become problems. Prov1, Dashing Don, Guinness, and now Vaiojr are the same person. It is very obvious if you check there IRL and if you read there posts. I hope you look in to this matter for the benefit of your good members.

Thank You,

J. C.[/QUOTE]

And Thank You On The Go for your thought provoking post.

I am not On The Go and I encourage Jackson to check my information out. Maybe this would clear up any doubts that Prov 1 has. I want no problems as he is a problem here on this wonderful site that Mr. Jackson has provided us to share information on mongering, but with his endless attacks on others I voiced my opinion and now I am being accused of being someone else. This is not fair to me and the others who use this site. I am sorry if voicing my opinion upset you so much.

All his posts are basically insults directed at another forumer. Not to mention advertising competing forums as well. This is exactly the type of weed that we need to exterminate from this forum.



Heres an example.

[QUOTE=Surfdude]TV is advertising virgins for sale now :-

[url]http://forum.********.com/showthread.php?t=32561&page=351[/url]

What's next? Selling your own children for child sex?[/QUOTE]

see the nicargua section about managua.

pty sexy is asking about finding **** girls. other members are noticing this and making comments.

this is the same guy who hurled enumerous f-bombs and insults at me, for being an american. you gave him two strikes ( see panama city section).

i would toss the guy for making inquiries about **** girls, alone just on principle. as far as flaming and hating on me, this is the price you pay in some circles for being an american, especially when it involves europeans, in this day and age. it is what it is.

Dear Jackson/Moderator of Kuala Lumpur Thread!


Member giffy is in a scam to cheat members into depositing money into an account so that the member can have the services of a FL. Through a senior member's contact in the Banking Industry we traced the account to an area out of KL called Tampin in Negeri Sembilan and the account holder is definatly a male!

Giffy has made claims that he has had sex for less than USD 100 with the following girl @ [url]http://www.friendster.com/user.php?uid=27203065[/url] . After much assistance from members we have found out that he virtually cuts & paste the same reply to all members enquiring & we hope that appropriate measures are taken to remove him from the forum.

He has also been rude in his postings & PM and has even issued me with a threat "REST IN PEACE" in the KL thread!

Please visit the Kuala Lumpur thread to read the latest developments!

Warm regards,
KL Guy

Dear Jackson

Somjai San has posted fake pics on the Vietnam board. The pics that he claims are his are widely available on various Thai pic posts. So, not only are they not his, they aren't even of Vietnamese women.

Jackson,

Considering your forum rules against promoting other boards, Why is it that DavePhx continues to egregiously promote his sexwork.com and his four other boards egregiously in almost every 'informational' post he puts out? Other people get called on the carpet but I've never seen Dave censured.

Yes, I will concede I think Dave is a hypocritical bastard for his anti-*** rants and I do have a chip on my shoulder, but I still think the moderatation on this board has penalized others for doing the same and then allowed dave to blatantly self promote at the same time. It would be nice to have some consistency here.

An example:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499905[/url]

Do a forum search on Dave's other posts and I think anyone can see a pattern here.

OK, I understand that you don't want to expose your racialists ideas because you know you would be instantly banned.

What about points 2 and 3?

Point 2 : promoting the idea of buying a woman for life. You are ready to spend 1000 - 8000 euros for buying your wife; like a pimp to a trafficker but only for you.
Point 3 : plagiarism; writing reports about places you have never been to (copy/paste from other members or articles in the internet) and posting them on your own credit, as well as stealing photos from others.

Its time to stop Asian Rains photos of bare back sex-and others.

It is very likely that he is HIV positiv and he can spread the infektion to all new girls he has sex with.

I have great respect for you Jackson and this forum, but why not stop members sending photos of BB sex.

And I think we all have a responsibility to protect ourself and the girls!

Ok stop sending photos don't stop mongers having BB sex, but don't let others
see the picktures,

Thanks,

BL

[QUOTE=Buttlover]Its time to stop Asian Rains photos of bare back sex-and others.

It is very likely that he is HIV positiv and he can spread the infektion to all new girls he has sex with.

I have great respect for you Jackson and this forum, but why not stop members sending photos of BB sex.

And I think we all have a responsibility to protect ourself and the girls!

Ok stop sending photos don't stop mongers having BB sex, but don't let others
see the picktures,

Thanks,

BL[/QUOTE]

Even if it is not wise, I was not yet aware that BB sex - as long as it is not proven one is infected - is a criminal offense. So please come back, even if one may not support what AR is doing, it is his and the girls own decision only. If you do not like it - just do not look.

Greetings and supporting a liberal forum

Tom

[quote=tom2004]even if it is not wise, i was not yet aware that bb sex - as long as it is not proven one is infected - is a criminal offense. so please come back, even if one may not support what ar is doing, it is his and the girls own decision only. if you do not like it - just do not look.

tom[/quote]i agree, asianrain is crazy or hiv positive. but if it is ok to censor his photos, than it is ok to censor all of internationalsexguide. lots of people would like that.

i believe in freedom of speech and favor a .sex instead of .net or .com for porn.

use condoms (they suck, but so does hiv)

agree with Tom. Buttlover: Don't look at the pictures if they offend you.

[QUOTE=Buttlover]Its time to stop Asian Rains photos of bare back sex-and others.

It is very likely that he is HIV positiv and he can spread the infektion to all new girls he has sex with.

I have great respect for you Jackson and this forum, but why not stop members sending photos of BB sex.

And I think we all have a responsibility to protect ourself and the girls!

Ok stop sending photos don't stop mongers having BB sex, but don't let others
see the picktures,

Thanks,

BL[/QUOTE]


Who made you, judge, jury and executioner?

You do have the abilty not to open the picture link of Asian Rains's postings, as was pointed out by Surfer.

I disagree with the premise that we have to protect the girls and ourselves.
WRONG> WRONG WRONG......

We are educated adults ( well most of us), and undertsand the consequences of our actions, as I am sure Asian Rain understands. Showing spooge on a hooker's face, is not a criminal offense.

meanwile the ladies, who partake in this line of work, are well aware of the risk that they take, thus these women feel the money is worth the risk. That is their decision, not yours, not mine, not surfer's, not Jerry falwell's, not Al franken's, not anybody elses but their own.

IMHO Asian Rain is one of the top posters on this forum. It never ceases to amaze me the way that these guys come out of the woodwork to complain about those who sometimes don´t use condoms. I posted a photo where I was taking a girl´s virginity (without a condom) and someone tried to warn me about the dangers of catching a disease...unbelievable!

Take it easy on Asian Rain. He's an icon on ISG. Keep those pics cumming AR!

Hi,

Do you really think all girls are--aware of the risk that they take!

No way!

I have spoken to many many girls about HIV, A lot of them in Thailand and indonesia dont know much about HIV !!And in Burma many girls dont even suggested Condom, others i have spoken to think you only can catch hIV during share blood --sorry for my poor english!

But I undrestand that many members her dont know more about HIV and how dangerous bareback sex than the some girls .

Thanks

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Who made you, judge, jury and executioner?

You do have the abilty not to open the picture link of Asian Rains's postings, as was pointed out by Surfer.

I disagree with the premise that we have to protect the girls and ourselves.
WRONG> WRONG WRONG.

We are educated adults ( well most of us), and undertsand the consequences of our actions, as I am sure Asian Rain understands. Showing spooge on a hooker's face, is not a criminal offense.

meanwile the ladies, who partake in this line of work, are well aware of the risk that they take, thus these women feel the money is worth the risk. That is their decision, not yours, not mine, not surfer's, not Jerry falwell's, not Al franken's, not anybody elses but their own.[/QUOTE]

Some people are nuts.You can not stop them.

They are born for disaster.

Dont waste your time on them.

Live, love as mutch as you can.

A working girl is a person to.

Do it with respect.Do it safe.

Dont be a selfish basterd.

time to ban o****.

he's basically got a good deal of the thai forum against him, because he's posting reckless information and opinions, including about forced bare-backing and insulting any member who doesn't agree with his actions, which is just about everyone.

he seems intent on antagonizing anyone and everyone.

see opinions- american politics.

see bart9000- telling i believe hardbag to go give a rimjob to a third world boys soccer team. i tried to reply saying that this comment was totally out of line.
but this fool does not get it, he does not understand the implication of implying even in jest any sexual interaction with ****d children.

[quote=old thai hand]time to ban o****.

he's basically got a good deal of the thai forum against him, because he's posting reckless information and opinions, including about forced bare-backing and insulting any member who doesn't agree with his actions, which is just about everyone.

he seems intent on antagonizing anyone and everyone.[/quote]old thai hand is a man with many personal problems due to the low teaching job he holds in thailand and these are reflected in his antipathy to o****, who has given sterling advice regarding udon thani and other places no one else has even reported on in any depth. old thai hand has been infected with the worst habits of the snobs of thailand and very few of their saving graces. he wishes to have a place in the thai social pecking order he is clearly not entitled to and the thais clearly dio not wish to give him. his solution to his real life frustrations is to lash out at o**** and others who can string a few words together.

whilst i do not condone o****'s sexual barebacking activities and i regard his condom breaking stunt as stupid among other things, yet the perverted homosexual activities a number of posters of the pattaya board have admitted to and to which old thai hand is suspiciously silent are far riskier and much more against the spirit of this board, safe sex included. also, while i believe the rambling quasi philosophicial "debates" about morality and what not o**** is involved in are a waste of bandwidth, they are no more stupid that the endlessly monotonous vacuous rambling old thai hand and others go on about in giotto's corner. the emphasis on shemales these people put in their posts should, given the patttaya perversions that have come to light, act as a red flag.

in fact, the admission by so many posters of partaking as bottoms in these perversions should act as a warning ot all of us, opebo included, to practice safe sex at all times in thailand. anything else is just plain crazy for those of us who are not professional and social losers.

jackson,
this guy seems to be a racist and frequently doing nothing else than flaming about other nationalities.
i answered on his comment today in the st. petersburg section/russia.
reading back all his last dozens of posts i honestly don´t believe in anything he wrotes. furthermore it seems that you already gave him a warning regarding zero tolerance regarding racistic attitude.
thanks

larsca

Message 2:

The USA once again DISRUPTS the world!!!! if NOT causing TROUBLE in the middle east IRAQ making OIL prices sky rocket. Now this SUB PRIME mortgage BULLSHIT!!! The USA dollar goes UP and EVERY bodies else CURRENCY goes down. What can I say. Its really really hard TRYING to like the USA. Thank God what money I do have is in Russian banks. Why should the federal reserve BAIL out the JEWS in Wall Street. FUCK THEM. Ok to free up money to kick start the economy. They SHOULD just let the CARDS fall where they Lay. Its Joe Tax payer comming to the RESCUE. This disgust me. I know you are American but just when the Canadian dollar was riseing. from peso status. Its REALLY hard to LIKE that country BELOW us south of the border.

Message 1:

First and Foremost MOST ***** MONGERS cant afford the PRICES of Moscow!!! And the ones that do go there complain about the prices. OR shag WG from Night flight or the Boar house. Which at $200 to $300.00@night is an EXCELLENT deal compared to North American prices. Even guys like Dr. shank and a FEW others that work there. CANT AFFORD the REAL MOSCOW and NEVER EVER EVER WILL. I speak very very little Russian, I have grade 6 education. I started going to Russia 15 years ago, Yes times have changed and so has the prices. I am a logger by profession, I work in the forest Industry. I happen to come accross some money a few years back and did long stays in Moscow. I met PEOPLE I did translation for these PEOPLE (Spanish) Lets say these people are important people. They run Moscow and run or I should say OWN the police and everything else. I think you understand now. They SHOW me the real Moscow that I could NEVER afford. I travel all over Russia towns villages cities. Nothing compares to RUSSIAN DYEVUCHKAS. Tall LONG LONG LEGS blonde hair NATURAL especially in the North (married into the sweedes Fins etc) beautifull BLUE BLUE OLIVE SHAPE EYES. Lets stipulate HIGH CHEEK BONES!!!! pouty lips. They are the most desired women in the WORLD!! Thats why the SEX SLAVE Industry is so rampant!!! Requesting WANTING SLAVIC women. I am Happy Russia is exspensive and hassels getting Visas, letters of Invatations, registration. Yes there are expats working there. Ask them how they LIVE. If you make 75 thousand US.dollars a year in Moscow thats just enough to survive pay your rent and eat out sometimes. Oh yeah buy a few hookers. Unfortunately they never see the real Moscow the beautifull women, example just to reserve a table at hot night club costs $15 to $20 thousand dollars. OIL money Moscow does NOT want tourists they dont NEED tourist dollars. Its the MOST corrupt country in the WORLD!!!!! Rich country 95% of the population is poor. Sad but true. I love Asian women latinos even black women. But the SLAVS have them all beat hands down. I love it when the Russian Dyevuchka speaks English that thick course slavic accent. I get goose bumps.

The above are 2 unsolicited messages I received from a member going by Brian Moloney. He is now on my ignore list.

Are any other members receiving similar messages? I suggest Jackson ban him if he is.

[QUOTE=George90]Message 2:

Now this SUB PRIME mortgage BULLSHIT!!! The USA dollar goes UP and EVERY bodies else CURRENCY goes down. What can I say. Its really really hard TRYING to like the USA. Thank God what money I do have is in Russian banks. Why should the federal reserve BAIL out the JEWS in Wall Street.
Message 1:

First and Foremost MOST ***** MONGERS cant afford the PRICES of Moscow!!! ...CANT AFFORD the REAL MOSCOW and NEVER EVER EVER WILL. I speak very very little Russian, I have grade 6 education. I started going to Russia 15 years ago, Yes times have changed and so has the prices. I....They are the most desired women in the WORLD!! Thats why the SEX SLAVE Industry is so rampant!!! [/QUOTE]The sub prime problems are not bullshit. Just an abandonment of couns banking practices.

Many currencies are tied to the US$ and move in broad tandem with it.

Russian banks have a colorful history and most likely an interesting future too.

The Fed is a private outfit.

Wall Street is a broad church.

Great to see how far a grade 6 education can go.

Not everyone likes Slavs. Hitler didn't.

Mongers can't afford any private society and never will unless they own key assets.

Russis is the 121st most corrupt country, not the most corrupt. That honor goes to monger destinations. [url]http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi[/url]

Dear Sir Editor,

Now, I don't want to start a war here. That's why I did not post this research on the Bali thread where my "friends" like to gather.

This research was done on 6 members (2 Senior, 4 Regular) of the Bali Forum who in possibly flamed (in unison) one Senior member on 08-24-07, who in effect got disciplined by Admin (restricted posting rights, changed handle, temporary expulsion).

I feel that the reason for the flaming was totally unwarranted by normal reason. While the Forum does not expressly prohibit the membership of women, I am very confident that a number of these "exemplary members" are actually not what they pretend to be and this was the cause of their unusually strong reaction. By normal "mens" standard it is totally unwarranted and foolishly emotional.

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All fine, however after studying the "research" I would like to call your respected attention to the "value" of above members contribution to the Forum. This research took several hours to complete and the results speak for themselves. I do feel offended and wish to voice my feeling in this way. (I have to say that other "real" Senior members felt just as offended as I).

In the closing line is a set of links to the "flamed Senior Member's" contributions and I humbly request Sir to take all this into consideration for future actions. I recognise that I myself might end up being expelled this way but I still have to request an elaborate apology and restoring my edited reports (they have been taken totally out of context).

Thank you Sir and I wish you good Sex-Traveller's success for the future.

Research on 6 "Members" of Indonesia / Bali Forum:

1/ - Regular member "Spank You Too" , join date: 01-30-04, total 16 posts incl. 3 Singapore, 1 Australia, 6 Thailand, 6 Indonesia

content: 5 short questions, 3 lines or less, 11 short comments, 1-6 lines each. Including one short introduction and promising many photos (never posted)


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2/ -Senior member "Dom Perignon" , join date: 05-12-04, total 40 posts All in Indonesia, incl. 6 short comments in Photo Gallery, rest 34 in Jakarta and Bali,
content: all 1-7 lines short notes, mostly meaningless




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3/ - Regular member "YouSureAre" , join date: 08-24-07, total 2 posts in Indonesia/Bali, one of which deleted by Admin, other one insulting a Senior Member



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4/ - Regular member "Mad Harry" , join date 08-24-04, total 22 posts, incl 12 in Indonesia/Bali, 1 Travel Plans, 9 Malaysia/Penang

content: 9 short questions in Penang, same in Bali, all short questions and comments, the shortest is 3 words, longest 6 lines



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5/ - Senior member "ProfDesigner" posts: 176 - join date 05-15-04, total 100 posts searched, incl in Indonesia/Jakarta and Bali, Photo Gallery (only comments), 3 Classified Ads

content: all 100 posts 17 lines or less (counting the spaces), trying to sell some product, short comment in Photo Gallery (no photos), general chit-chat


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6/ Regular member "Mauldid" , join date 07-22-07, total 15 posts, 6 in Thailand, 2 Cambodia, 3 Hong Kong, 4 Indonesia

content: 11 short questions like "where to get a tatto?", rest are same short meaningless comments, shortest 4 words, longest 4 lines


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link library credentials for flamed member "That Asshole" joined date: 01-5-04

-selected reports:

Indonesia
Bintan [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...8&postcount=196[/url]
Batam [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...5&postcount=190[/url]
Tretes [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...9&postcount=125[/url]
Surabaya [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...7&postcount=124[/url]
Surabaya, Tretes, Bali [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...53&postcount=66[/url]

Sex-tourist Indonesian dictionary [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...4&postcount=288[/url]

Makassar [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...5882#post505882[/url]
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Cambodia [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...1&postcount=105[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...0&postcount=104[/url]

Cambodia + Ko Chang [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...9335#post549335[/url]
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Thailand
Udon tani + Kon Ken + others [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...8&postcount=782[/url]

rural isaan [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...6&postcount=881[/url]
south rural [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...3&postcount=747[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...2&postcount=746[/url]



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other ****-ries
Singapur [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2509[/url]


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-what other members said about my reports:

Makassar [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...79&postcount=36[/url]

Surabaya + Bali [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...184&postcount=7[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...286&postcount=3[/url]

Thailand
-rural [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...5&postcount=883[/url]

Cambodia [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...07&postcount=19[/url]

[QUOTE=Happy Bigamist]The sub prime problems are not bullshit. Just an abandonment of couns banking practices.

Many currencies are tied to the US$ and move in broad tandem with it.

Russian banks have a colorful history and most likely an interesting future too.

The Fed is a private outfit.

Wall Street is a broad church.

Great to see how far a grade 6 education can go.

Not everyone likes Slavs. Hitler didn't.

Mongers can't afford any private society and never will unless they own key assets.

Russis is the 121st most corrupt country, not the most corrupt. That honor goes to monger destinations. [url]http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi[/url][/QUOTE]


Sorry for delay...

But it seems always very funny to me what (grade 6) Americans thinks about others...

Unfortunatley I'm Grade 19 in your standard... (yep! 19 years in school)

There is nothing wrong in Moscow as you say, just a little but too American way of life! But I do not care... as far as nice girls are avaliable for 300-400 a night ($ not €) it's OK...

The real problem are hotel and restaurant prices... for the rest travelling is not expencive (not writing to you HB!) How did you not learn a bit of Cyrillic? Easy, Greek+Latin and same grammar style of Latin...

Perhaps you understand why we oooooold Italians are still studying such things...

IT HELPS WITH PUSSY (AND YOUR MIND TOO!)

IT

It's just a joke, so I made it like a RE to you, and not to the original author, sorry, but it was so funny!

This whole article and thread is utter bullshit...

1. the study is based on a group based in europe. europeans are always going to feel superior to americans, regardless of what is reality.

The europeans are in their glory, due to the weak US dollar. this is a repeat of the late 1970's in the US, let the fucking europeans gloat, let them keep taunting and spitting on american tourist, let them attack tourists in Naples, just like in 1979, the world pushed us too far, with the Iranian hostags, thus the American people said enough and elected a strong leader, whom kicked ass. we need a leader whom will tell the rest of the world to go to hell, and will retaliate whenever americans are attacked abroad, instead of appeasing Europe for example. Bush is a failure, for one thing he should have expelled all of the German and French diplomats in 2003, at gunpoint, and when it was discovered that the French and Germans and Italians were supplying Iraq with missiles and weapons after the beginning of the war. Those countries should have been bombed. I would have loved to have seen the Eifel Tower, The coliseum and brandenberg gate vaporized.. Then maybe Europe would have got the message.

REMEMBER ONE THING EUROPEANS WE HAVE THE BOMB AND HAVE USED IT AND WILL USE IT AGAIN. TREAD LIGHTLY...............

Composing a replay with a fragmented sentence that does not make sense certainly shows your European Intellectual Superiority.

How is that German porn doing these days? Still showing Ms. Cartman eating fecal matter from Hans Gruber's ass?

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]This whole article and thread is utter bullshit...

1. the study is based on a group based in europe. europeans are always going to feel superior to americans, regardless of what is reality.

The europeans are in their glory, due to the weak US dollar. this is a repeat of the late 1970's in the US, let the fucking europeans gloat, let them keep taunting and spitting on american tourist, let them attack tourists in Naples, just like in 1979, the world pushed us too far, with the Iranian hostags, thus the American people said enough and elected a strong leader, whom kicked ass. we need a leader whom will tell the rest of the world to go to hell, and will retaliate whenever americans are attacked abroad, instead of appeasing Europe for example. Bush is a failure, for one thing he should have expelled all of the German and French diplomats in 2003, at gunpoint, and when it was discovered that the French and Germans and Italians were supplying Iraq with missiles and weapons after the beginning of the war. Those countries should have been bombed. I would have loved to have seen the Eifel Tower, The coliseum and brandenberg gate vaporized.. Then maybe Europe would have got the message.

REMEMBER ONE THING EUROPEANS WE HAVE THE BOMB AND HAVE USED IT AND WILL USE IT AGAIN. TREAD LIGHTLY...............[/QUOTE]

Well first of all if you want to talk about politics you should get the facts right. Alot of economies in europe depend on exports to the us, asia so a high euro does not to us any good.
2 All the countries which should be bombed in your opinion(France, Italy, Germany) are part of the ISAF mission in Afghanistan and fight along with US forces the taliban since 2001.
3 Italy itself was part of the coalition of the "willing" and sent over 3000 troops to Iraq so why on earth would you want to bomb italy?????????
4 The only things which were not discovered in Iraq were any weapons of mass destruction, a nuclear weapons programm, and a link from Saddam Hussain to Bin Laden so all the major reason for the US to go to war against Iraq fell apart.
5 When the US nuked Hiroshima, Nagasaki in 1945 Japan was already on it`s knees, and i would not be proud of an event which killed 100000+ people.
6 We the europenas have the bomb too, but hopefully we will never to use it

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]This whole article and thread is utter bullshit...

1. the study is based on a group based in europe. europeans are always going to feel superior to americans, regardless of what is reality.

The only nations which thinks is superior to the rest of the world is the US. Since the creation of the United Nations in 1945 the US so far has been the only country which declared war on a sovereign country (Iraq in 2003) without the approval of the United Nations Security Council.

Well I guess the gassing of six million jews is something to be proud of if you are a european. Also the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, more than likely saved millions of lives. An invasion of Japan would have killed thousands of american soldiers and millions of Japanese civilians.

You also must be proud of your continets exploitation of Africa and Asia for centuries. How many millions of people have you moral Europeans slaughtered in your past?

If you Europeans feel angry about american power, then have the balls to do something about it. There are many bases you could attack in Germany. Have some real courage instead of spitting on tourists. However a European invasion of the East Coast of the US, would fail, for the stench coming from the Naval forces in the Atlantic, would give the American people plenty of time to prepare.

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Well I guess the gassing of six million jews is something to be proud of if you are a european. Also the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, more than likely saved millions of lives. An invasion of Japan would have killed thousands of american soldiers and millions of Japanese civilians.

You also must be proud of your continets exploitation of Africa and Asia for centuries. How many millions of people have you moral Europeans slaughtered in your past?

If you Europeans feel angry about american power, then have the balls to do something about it. There are many bases you could attack in Germany. Have some real courage instead of spitting on tourists. However a European invasion of the East Coast of the US, would fail, for the stench coming from the Naval forces in the Atlantic, would give the American people plenty of time to prepare.[/QUOTE]

Well i come from a european country which was and has ever been neutral so far so please don´t make any false and stupid accusations concerning the holocaust i would really suggest you take some history lessons first. Some european countries which had nothing to do with the holocaust are, Sweden, Great Britain, Switzerland...so please do not try to rewrite history.

Another thing i would really suggest you, instead of spending time in front of the computer you should go straight to Baghdad and go on patrol in a humvee and kick/or get your ass kicked.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]How about if I skip the humvee and come kick your ass instead....

read your history- Switzerland hid a lot of the nazi loot from the second war. sweden also allowed German soldiers to use their lands to attack Norway.[/QUOTE]

First of all Switzerland did not hide nazi loot, you will find alot of them in Southamerica in countries like Argentina for example.
Another history lesson for you Norway was attacked via Denmark and by Sea and german soldiers did not use any territory of Sweden to launch their attack towards Norway.
From your statement above i can clearly see that history is not one of your strength.
Concerning any information about the german attack on norway just google "Operation Weseruebung" and you will see for yourself that you were wrong again.

Not quite sure where to post this, but this seems like the most pertinent forum. I just came across this site and I've found it quite interesting so far, but what's the deal with that Nibu guy? I can't make heads or tails of any of his posts, and I'm not even sure he speaks English. Why does he have his own sections, and is there anything worth reading in any of them (particularly interested in South America)? Sorry if this is all common knowledge; as I said I just found this site.

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Greetings Levantaa,

Nibu is restricted to his own threads specifically because his "reports" are incomprehensible.

My advice: Don't read his threads.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I don't have to read Nibu's posts as I don't have to see that dead pixel in the middle of my flat monitor or that bored look in the WG I'm nailing. And if I had an expensive gourmet restaurant, my clients wouldn't have to see that new cheap fast food right next to my place.

You just can't ignore what is in front of you. Please Jackson, could you[list][*] Delete Nibu's thread in Poland. I wouldn't mind if it was Azerbaijan but Poland is my favourite playground. He's never been to Poland, won't come before 2009 and his thread is like non-sense in that beautiful country. I'll feel like contributing one more year in Poland.[*] Maybe move all his threads to a new sub-forum like "Nibusexguide" or "Nibuland".[/list]
Thanks

This guy was banned from another site (using the name Arecho Monger) for the exact same kind of behavior. It's unacceptable and should not be tolerated anywhere. A second banishment would be a lesson learned the hard way.

I have wondered this for a long time... exactly who is Nibu and what is the story with him? I've searched for older posts that might explain his advent and eventual segregation. It seems so funny; Jackson must be getting some secret enjoyment out of keeping him as a caged pet in his own forums.

Whats the authenticity of the information or pics provided? Whats the assurance that they aint fake?

Dear Jackson

I didn't use the report function because it would go straight to Giotto.

I was accused of being a kiddie fiddler by mortarman. While there was a fair amount of heavy banter going on there, such accusations are not only wrong, but I would thing contrary to the ethics of this forum.

Thanks

Pete

[QUOTE=Petemcc]Dear Jackson

I didn't use the report function because it would go straight to Giotto.
...
[/QUOTE]Petemcc,

You definitely should have contacted me.

The reports are modified already, as well as your provocations were deleted. I hope we can have peace now in the "Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok" thread.

Thank you.


Giotto

Jackson,

Is there any way you can stop Giotto's fanboys from polluting the Bangkok Hotels thread with their spam, inane chit-chat and fake reports about rival hotels? I thought that one of the purposes of the Giotto's Lodge section was to keep that nonsense out of the main Thailand threads?

Romano V had put my warsawian brothel list in another forum without mentionning me.
He made a racist comment against muslim tatars in Ukraine.
And now he posts fake pictures - that I suppose stolen from amateur website - plus apology of unprotected sex with prostitutes.

See the [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=724838]photo gallery in Belgium[/url]. Obviously it's not the same guy in the pics.

[QUOTE=Romano V]End of pics in Belgium for Russian teen my speciality in photos worlwide.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91833[/url]
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[QUOTE=Romano V]All the girls will suck and fuck without a condom if you pay more.

Here pics of a bulgarian girl with creampie, no condom, no problem but pay more the girls or the pimps.

No condom it's better.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91922[/url]
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[QUOTE=Romano V]Jolene only in Belgium. Just the thing i like in a good BBBJ the girl need to look at me in the eyes when she sucks my dick without hands.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91837[/url]
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I thought this forum was about first hand mongering experience, not about phony reports. He writes about many countries he never visited and posts pictures of girls he never met. Everyone should know he's Vince Voyeur who was banned last year.

PS: thanks Jackson for having deleted Nibu's useless non-sense thread in Poland