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[QUOTE=Joe Biden]Gents,
I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?
I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.
Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
There's a thread on Safe Sex in Brasil below.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2470[/url]
[QUOTE=Joe Biden]Gents,
I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?
I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.
Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]The percent of population with hiv:
Usa. 6 %
Brazil. 7 %
Australia. 1 %
It is hardly any different to the United States.
Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture-Smart-customs-etiquette/dp/1857333233/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230917038&sr=1-1[/url]
It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture-Smart-customs-etiquette/dp/1857333233/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230917038&sr=1-1[/url]
It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).[/QUOTE]
I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...
[quote]I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...[/quote]
[color=gray][i]mea culpa!![/i]
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Just for you Jazzy:
I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Brits, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).
Though actually I haven't. Brits tend to just stand there and look dumb ;)
No offence intended - One is not better than the other - American (US) culture is more at odds with Brasilian culture than European is IMO. Funnily enough, most of the Americans I've met from ISG have not only been very sensitive to cultural issues but (such as your good self) can blend in better than I can. I think the mongers on here must maybe be a more culturally attuned lot than the ones who aren't.
The other thing is, there are more American tourists in Brasil than most any other tourist (except perhaps for Brasilians). Or should I say 'US tourist' - as Brasilians also think of themselves as 'American' . . . Why isn't there a better word than 'yanks' to describe people from the U.S.A.??
[QUOTE=Joe Biden]Gents,
I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?
I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.
Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Just go on the WHO website and it will answer to all your questions you spread around many forums on HIV in different countries...:)
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]
I was just have a little fun, my friend...[/QUOTE]
That's ok - I know you were ;)
But speaking of fun, have you learnt your carnaval samba song yet?? I've just noticed they're available for download. Just when I thought my Porto was getting not bad . . . :D
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]It is a proven fact that the hiv test gives a false reading so those stats are false. Now if you have stats on how many people have full blown aids that is different.[/QUOTE]Well them are from the who site, all being brazil. 07 percent off population, usa. 06 percent off population and australia. 01 percent off population. If you know any different please disclose it.
I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??
This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.
If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.
In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.
Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.
Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.
[b]Now, how about we try to get back on track?[/b]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??
This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.
If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.
In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.
Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.
Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.
[b]Now, how about we try to get back on track?[/b][/QUOTE]
Well said and well done Chris!
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]The percent of population with hiv:
Usa. 6 %
Brazil. 7 %
Australia. 1 %
It is hardly any different to the United States.[/QUOTE]
The above figures are incorrect. The only country numbers that are correct is Brazil. USA, Africa, Australia are all estimates. Brazils are actual reported cases no estimates.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]The above figures are incorrect. The only country numbers that are correct is Brazil. USA, Africa, Australia are all estimates. Brazils are actual reported cases no estimates.[/QUOTE]I would say that if Brazil's figures are reported cases, then it's probably on the lower end of the actual number, since we know not all cases are reported. At least the countries that use estimates use reported and projected cases.
rodeo
[QUOTE=Christopherd]That's ok - I know you were ;)
But speaking of fun, have you learnt your carnaval samba song yet?? I've just noticed they're available for download. Just when I thought my Porto was getting not bad . . . :D[/QUOTE]
Yes, I almost have it memorized. I bought my fantasia from a loja de beijs-flor and I'm ready to dance and sing na disfile com vc...
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Yes, I almost have it memorized. I bought my fantasia from a loja de beijs-flor and I'm ready to dance and sing na disfile com vc...[/QUOTE]
You realise that if we're in the same one there's no-one to take piccies . . . ;)
ps there's a couple of lines I'm struggling to translate - I know we don't need to know the English but it helps for the spirit of the thing . . .
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??
This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.
If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.
In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.
Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.
Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.
[b]Now, how about we try to get back on track?[/b][/QUOTE]
applause!
well said!
I was puzzled too by the same question in a lot of other countries...
case is closed!
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]The percent of population with hiv:
Usa. 6 %
Brazil. 7 %
Australia. 1 %
It is hardly any different to the United States.[/QUOTE]I know that this info is in the wrong thread but I felt I had to make one correctin here. At first glance the way this is written it makes it appear as if the %s are 6%, 7%, and 1% when they are actually [b]0.[/b]6%, [b]0.[/b]7%, and [b]0.[/b]1%, which is overstating by a factor of 10, at least according the the CIA World Factbook.
In another post you wrote:[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Well them are from the who site, all being brazil. 07 percent off population, usa. 06 percent off population and australia. 01 percent off population. If you know any different please disclose it.[/QUOTE]Which [b]under[/b]states by a factor of 10, so please be careful with percentages of you may give people the wrong idea.
This is a strange way to me of writing numbers -- attaching the decimal point to the previous word with no leading zero followed by a space and then the number. Is this the norm in some country or is math just not your forte? Note that I know some countries use a comma for a decimal point but this would be:
Brazil 0,7%
USA 0,6%
Australia 0,1%
[QUOTE=Edward M]
This is a strange way to me of writing numbers -- attaching the decimal point to the previous word with no leading zero followed by a space and then the number. Is this the norm in some country or is math just not your forte? Note that I know some countries use a comma for a decimal point but this would be:
Brazil 0,7%
USA 0,6%
Australia 0,1%[/QUOTE]
in some countries they omit the "zero" but keep the pint or comma, writing it as:
Brazil .7%
USA .6%
Australia .1%
I would not be surprised that the very first indication reading 7% was actually meant to be:
7 /1000 (with no capability to summarize the 0/00 in one symbol)?
I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.
If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?
I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.
The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.
I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.
It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.
There for I ask this question.
How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.
What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.
At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.
I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.
Thanks very much
[QUOTE=Bernard22]I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.
If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?
I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.
The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.
I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.
It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.
There for I ask this question.
How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.
What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.
At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.
I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.
Thanks very much[/QUOTE]Yes, you should go to Thailand. Don't waste your time on these big-assed nympho freaks in Brazil! I hear they're nothing but trouble anyway with their wanting you to fuck them in the ass and not wanting to stop until you cum. Don't even waste your time reading through all of the detailed reports that people spend so much time writing, it's all just for entertainment. Brazil is way overrated.
Oh, as for your question, I think 200reals is a generous contribution nowadays for a Help girl from what I've read. Not that I'm recommending you go to Brazil or anything.
Rodeo
[QUOTE=Bernard22]I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.
If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?
I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.
The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.
I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.
It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.
There for I ask this question.
How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.
What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.
At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.
I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.
Thanks very much[/QUOTE]
Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.
[QUOTE=Acenva]Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer.
I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.
Also the flight is cheaper for me.
Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.
[QUOTE=Bernard22]
I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.
Also the flight is cheaper for me.
Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.[/QUOTE]
Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.
Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.
Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).
Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).
Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.
Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .
I know most guys arrive with enough bags to fill a taxi, but I'm guessing there must be one or two other weirdos who think along my lines and don't believe in stopping at baggage retrieval. This is for them.
There is an indescribable sense of freedom getting off the plane and just slinging a small bag over your shoulder and then going off hunting where you will. You're not at the mercy of flat-rental hawks cos you can recce the places before you choose. You feel part of Brasil much faster too. Brasilians have a curious easy-come, easy-go attitude to material possessions. Have less to lose, and you worry less about losing it! And if you fancy a side trip to BH or Petropolis, you're all set.
When I started travelling light, my main weight would, curiously enough, be toiletries. With cabin restrictions these days, it's good to know you can get almost anything you need when you get there.
Here's my 'buy on arrival list.' The main essentials come from any 24hr farmacia (I recommend the one on Prado Jnr, but by all means find one closer). Other stuff can wait till the day after you've settled in. All local in Copa (which is very well furnished with everything you need). I'd generally get a nice shirt in Rio Sul when I'm buying a SIM though, and a cheap watch and any top-ups on the socks/shirts front in Centro. There are two expensive items worth buying IMO. One is Mr Cat shoes. The other is a trendy pair of shorts or swimming trunks for the beach.
BUY ON ARRIVAL
shaving gel & razors
listerine mouthwash
soap
condoms - Preserv Xtra are good
(Olla also do a large, 55mm, but I haven't used these)
scissors
Polaramine (for mozzie itch 2 or 6mg)
Diasec (local version of loperamide for diarrhea)
Mazitrom azitromicina (antibiotic for colds or flu).
Emistin cream (also for mozzie itch)
washing up liquid (to wash your togs - or use shampoo)
gym membership
penknife for fruit
change of clothes
cheap watch
SIM card
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.
Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.
Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).
Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).
Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.
Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .[/QUOTE]Well said, after living in Thailand now for 9+ years I'm venturing to Rio for the 1st time in May. I know how to do everything on the cheap here.
But I know, Rio, is going to be whole different story. So I am spending the next few months intel gathering from this site so that I am abit clued up when I land there. But like you said I'm sure it will take afew trips before I get it right!
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.[/QUOTE]$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.
[QUOTE=Chingon]$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.[/QUOTE]
I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.
The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.
The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)
But it's fairly typical of a local rent.
I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.
The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.
Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco. Thank you[/QUOTE]
Bakeries :
There is a bakery on Rua Domingos Ferriera, the street behind the Marriott.
2.) Cafeina - Copacabana
Rua Constante Ramos, 44
3.) The Bakers – Copacabana
Rua Santa Clara, 86
Crepes :
1.) Le Blé Noir
Rua Xavier da Silveira, 19
2.) Yonza Crepes
Rua Miguel Lemos, 21
3.) Bibi Crepes
Rua Miguelo Lemos, 31
4.) Bombom Mousse Cafe
Rua Raimundo Corrêa, 60
Seafood: Terraco Atlantico in front of Help has good seafood as do most of the restaurants on Avenida Atlantico.
Christopherd, thank you for the useful info.
Is basic/intermediate Spanish enough to get by in Brazil/Rio, or I better learn some Portugese?
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.
The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.
The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)
But it's fairly typical of a local rent.
I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.
The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.[/QUOTE]
I have been to the place Chris rents and can vouch for him telling the truth. It is not exactly luxury, but it is not a rat-hole either. It helps that it is a couple of blocks away from the beach.
Even in my two days of interacting with Chris I learned a lot that I had not known in more than 10 previous visits to Rio. I can honestly say he expanded my horizon. It was fun. Of course, in the end I decided that my tastes are a bit different from his, and I am not quite as bargain-conscious. And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint :(. But still, it was great fun to hang with Chris.
[QUOTE=Euro100]And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint :(.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it was a bit of an anticlimax - hope it gets deleted from the guides. But it was fun doing it in company, so thanks for that. I'd have been in a bad mood for a fortnight if I'd wasted all that time on my own! :D Have got a list of upmarket restaurants I fancy trying now that aren't quite so far away. Even so, the drive over the hills was quite good.
I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....[/QUOTE]
You are correct, ATMs in the city stop dispensing money after 22:00. However, the ATM at the airport might still be operating at that hour. If you are desperate to exchange for reals when you arrive, you could try exchanging a small amount (e.g. US$50) with one of the black market (dolar paralelo) vendors in the airport arrivals area. You should expect an exchange rate reasonably close to the official rate. At today's commercial rate of 2.3, the dolar paralelo would be about 2.2. These guys are easy to find, just ask one of the taxi dispatchers in the arrivals area. Use normal security precautions, watch your back.
It seems citibank machines are the exception to the rule on shutting down at night. I posted this in my Rio trip report, so find a citibank machine, they still work after 10pm.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....[/QUOTE]Well you can go to help and change us dollars or euro's. Other than that all major hotels along copacabana will change euro's or us dollars.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]You are correct, ATMs in the city stop dispensing money after 22:00. However, the ATM at the airport might still be operating at that hour. If you are desperate to exchange for reals when you arrive, you could try exchanging a small amount (e.g. US$50) with one of the black market (dolar paralelo) vendors in the airport arrivals area. You should expect an exchange rate reasonably close to the official rate. At today's commercial rate of 2.3, the dolar paralelo would be about 2.2. These guys are easy to find, just ask one of the taxi dispatchers in the arrivals area. Use normal security precautions, watch your back.[/QUOTE]
This is not 100% right, certain ATM's eg the one in the chemist shop across from Barbarellas work 24/7 but unfortunately only give you about R$100 at a cost of 6%, I may be wrong about the exact amount and % but I know I have been there at 4am and thought "Shit is that all I am getting". Almost gives you a putas perspective. However it is enough for a taxi and a few beers. Any GDP worth the effort won't want paying up front anyway and you are guaranteed an all nighter if she has to wait until the banks open.
If you need to pay for a taxi into town from the airport pay by credit card in the arrivals hall. Not cheap but safe and fast.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....[/QUOTE]Hi Lukasek,
For changing money late there are a few 24/7 ATM's. I recommend the City Bank ATM's. I frequently use the one in Visconde Do Piraja oposite of the park Nuestra senhora de paz.
Chico
Thanks all...Yes now I remember Bubba wrote at Help they change money with a good rate ( I have the reason to go there 1 minute later I arrive LOL ) and I did not think about hotels....I am packing my clothes and I simply cannot wait to be back to Brazil...
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Christopherd, thank you for the useful info.
Is basic/intermediate Spanish enough to get by in Brazil/Rio, or I better learn some Portugese?[/QUOTE]Let me ask you this:
I want to visit the US, is basic or intermediate French enough to get by in the US?
Seriously, Brasilians may understand you but when they speak in Portuguese, the majority of it will fly over your head because even tough in writting, Portuguese and Spanish are very similar, in pronunciation, they are very different because of the different portuguese sounds. So while basic or intermediate Spanish may help you a bit to get by, it wont be enough to truly enjoy Brasil. For that, it will require Portuguese, Brasilian Portuguese that is.
Good luck.
What is Rede Orla Video? I am connecting my laptop and i see that as a wireless option. THX
Cable tv. The lady who rented my apartment, didnt tell me until after i had paid that the place does not have cable tv. I told her that it was important that she have it installed. Is it true that you have to sign a 12 month contract to have cable put in? You cant just have it installed for a couple of months?
[QUOTE=Bravo]Cable tv. The lady who rented my apartment, didnt tell me until after i had paid that the place does not have cable tv. I told her that it was important that she have it installed. Is it true that you have to sign a 12 month contract to have cable put in? You cant just have it installed for a couple of months?[/QUOTE]
First, check with your condominium to see what cable companies service your building. From my experience with both TVA and NET, you can tell the cable company that you only want it for a short period, say 2 months. They will tell you it's no problem you just have to call them when you want to terminate.
Then when you get ready to cancel, getting it terminated is like pulling teeth. You call them and they listen to your story and then they keep transfering you to another person until you lose your patience and hang up. It usually takes several phone calls to accomplish this. Then they will have to make an appointment for a technician to come to your place and pick up the cable converter. You must get a receipt for the converter because they will try to bill you for it later. Neither TVA nor NET has an office where you can drop off the converter. The phone company Telemar used to have an alliance with TVA and you could drop off the converter at a Telemar store. I'm not sure if this can still be accomplished. As an alternative, you might consider some sort of financial arrangement with your landlady to terminate the cable agreement when you depart.
[QUOTE=Bravo]What is Rede Orla Video? I am connecting my laptop and i see that as a wireless option. THX[/QUOTE]
That might be the free wireless available on the beachfront. I cannot remember the exact name of it.
Happy New Year to you all, and a link to a very sexy and funny Brazilian advertisment for cerveja antartica:
[url]http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/[/url]
Wait a little bit until the lady totaly appears and then you have to fill your name, a friend's name or your nickname, don't have to give your adress, and push "visualizar". And laugh!
Some one have any info about the site?
Still not working!
[QUOTE=Patata Chips]Some one have any info about the site?
Still not working![/QUOTE]Checkout my post #1919 in the Sao Paulo thread. Use the search function, newbie, it's been discussed on a couple of threads.
This is funny!!!!Thanks for posting it!!!:D
[QUOTE=Chaudlefredo]Happy New Year to you all, and a link to a very sexy and funny Brazilian advertisment for cerveja antartica:
[url]http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/[/url]
Wait a little bit until the lady totaly appears and then you have to fill your name, a friend's name or your nickname, don't have to give your adress, and push "visualizar". And laugh![/QUOTE]
Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?
Do I need prescription?
Or are there other options?
LC
[QUOTE=Louie Cifre]Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?
Do I need prescription?
Or are there other options?
LC[/QUOTE]Hi Louie,
Just go to a farmacy and ask for it. No problem. It also happends that they have some special offer. Ask if they have.
Chicobarca
[QUOTE=Louie Cifre]Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?
Do I need prescription?
Or are there other options?
LC[/QUOTE]No perscription needed. Just go to the pharmacy and tell the pharmacist what you want. You can also buy ZITHROMYCINE over the counter (Z-Pak in America). It is called Azithromycin. It's the greatest thing for unexpected sinus infections. I alwasy pick a few up in Brazil and keep them in my shaving bag for the unexpected travel related cold.
I finally took a few minutes and figured out how to use a proxy server to get to gpguia.net fro America. As many of you know the site has been bloakc from access by servers based in America. If anyone needs help getting this done just send me a PM and I'll be happy to share my experience and get you set up.
GP Guia site seems now accessible from outside of Brazil, at least from some areas.
It is a few days I am accessing it from different countries.
[QUOTE=Patata Chips]Some one have any info about the site?
Still not working![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jake993]I finally took a few minutes and figured out how to use a proxy server to get to gpguia.net fro America. As many of you know the site has been bloakc from access by servers based in America. If anyone needs help getting this done just send me a PM and I'll be happy to share my experience and get you set up.[/QUOTE]
Does not seem to work from Europe either...
Written by Mylena Fiori
Wednesday, 14 January 2009
According to a survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Brazil is the country that suffered the least with the world economic crisis. According to the document, the Brazilian economy saw a reduction of only 2.9 points and its activity was rated as being "in decline."
The survey, based on figures pertaining to November last year, points to a "sharp slowdown" in the European Union, Asia, the United States and large emerging economies. The survey includes the 30 OECD member countries and five other important economies that are not part of the group, among them the so-called BRIC countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China.
The OECD index, which consists of an average of different economic indicators, revolves around 100. The OECD rates as expanding economies those that have rising indexes and above 100.
Economies with indexes above 100, but showing a trend of decreasing activity, are considered to be in decline. Countries with indicators below 100, but rising, are rated as in recovery. In turn, those with indexes below 100 and retracting economies are defined as in slowdown.
Brazil is the only country that maintained a rating above 100 throughout the second half of 2008. In November, the OECD index stood at 101.2 points, as against 102.3 in October, 103.2 in September, 103.9 in August and 104.1 in July.
Russia was the worst performing country in November. At 89.8 points, its index was slightly higher than China's, but represents a decrease of 13.8 points in comparison with the same period of last year.
As was the case in nearly every country, the slowdown has intensified since July. In China, the index was 88.5 - 12.9 points below the average of economic indicators as of November 2007. In India, the slowdown in November stood at 7.6 points compared with the same period of the previous year.
All of the large world economies also recorded "sharp slowdown" rates, with indexes below 100 since July.
The world's largest economy, the United States recorded an index of 92.2 points in November, representing reduction of 8.7 points compared with November 2007.
In Japan, which has the world's second highest Gross Domestic Product (GDP), the decrease was of 5.5 points in comparison with the same period of the previous year, and the index in November was 93.7 points. In Germany, the third in the global ranking, the OECD index stood at 91.6 points - a decrease of 10.7 points.
The outlook was not too good in the Eurozone countries. The reduction compared with November 2007 stood at 7.6 points, with an index of 94.3 points. Considering the five leading Asian economies (China, India, Japan, Indonesia and Korea), economic activity decreased by 9.5 points, earning an index of 91.6 points.
In turn, the OECD member countries recorded a slowdown of 7.3 points in comparison with November 2007, having recorded a combined index of 93.8 points.
Export Record
The Brazilian state-controlled oil and gas multinational Petrobras attained record high exports of oil produced in Brazil in December. Sales during the month totaled 19.2 million barrels of oil, i.e., an average of 620,000 barrels a day, 46,000 more than the previous record high, of 574,000 barrels a day, attained in October 2008.
According to the company, 63% of exports were destined to the United States. Another 21.4% went to Europe, 5.4% to South America, 5% to Asia and 5% to the Caribbean.
Exports in December generated revenues of US$ 574 million, to be collected in January and February this year.
[QUOTE=Madd Love]Written by Mylena Fiori
Wednesday, 14 January 2009
According to a survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Brazil is the country that suffered the least with the world economic crisis.[/QUOTE]
Over the last two years many people have asked me why I decided to invest in Brazil of all places. One reason is that Brazil does not have ready (or affordable) credit for houses, apartments, cars or credit cards.
With the current (not that current - December 07) economic crisis it is as if there were many earthquakes around the world of various magnitudes but none in Brazil. Brazil will have some damage as the quakes spread out from the epicenters but nothing direct.
Where Brazil will suffer is in exports (other than oil) which is why I said from a macroeconomic perspective the dollar had to rise making Brazil's goods cheaper in the US.
The one thing that Brazil must get a handle on and soon is domestic inflation. Prices here make no sense whatsoever. The price for the same item varies radically from store to store and even radically at the same store from week to week. If inflation is not gotten under control, pretty soon the guy on the street is going to get squeezed more than they are already.
This is compounded by current labor laws which provide a monthly not hourly minimum wage. My understanding is that an employer can hire someone part-time but must pay them full-time based upon the monthly minimum wage.
Another observation about Rio in particular is that I estimate about 10% of the working age male population is somehow employed in security whether police or private. The Suco stands even have security.
Brazil will be affected and in my opinion extremely hard for all of the reasons exec listed below. IE Inefficient economy, high inflation, nothing makes senses here as far as business logic goes etc. I think the cycle was the US was affected first, then Europe and then the emerging markets. I am thinking the emerging markets are going to get hit really hard, it is just that they are last into the cycle.
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Brazilian Stocks Decline on Record Job Losses; Bolsa Advances
By Paulo Winterstein and William Freebairn
Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Brazilian stocks fell for the first time in three days after a government report showed the biggest monthly job losses on record, signaling the slowdown in Latin America’s largest economy is worsening.
Lojas Renner SA, Brazil’s biggest clothing retailer, slid more than 5 percent after the economy lost 654,946 government- registered jobs in December. Vivo Participacoes SA, the largest mobile-phone company, fell the most in the Bovespa after JPMorgan Chase & Co. said margins may be hurt by the slowdown. Banco do Brasil SA paced gains for banks after Merrill Lynch & Co. upgraded the stock to “buy.”
“We’re focusing on macro numbers, which should continue to be bad,” said Jose Alberto Baltieri, who helps manage about $238 million in assets at BES Ativos Financeiros in Sao Paulo. Earnings reports for “the fourth quarter should be an inflection point as analysts adjust their earnings projections for this year, which will be a little more negative.”
The Bovespa dropped 1.3 percent to 38,828.32, paring its gain this year to 3.4 percent. Chile’s Ipsa advanced 0.1 percent, while Mexico’s Bolsa rose 0.3 percent. The MSCI Emerging Markets index declined 0.7 percent. U.S. markets were shut today for the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.
The December employment report became the latest government data to shed light on the depth of the slowdown. The Labor Ministry reported that Brazil lost the most government- registered jobs since the series began in 1999.
Rate Cut Outlook
Brazil’s local-currency bond yields slid to their lowest in 15 months and the real slipped on growing expectations the central bank may cut its benchmark lending rate by as much as a full percentage point this week as the economic slowdown worsens. A majority of economists expects the central bank to cut rates to 13 percent this week from a two-year high of 13.75 percent.
A 75-basis-point cut in the Selic won’t cause equities to rebound as investors still see a “very difficult” first half, said Sergio Goldman, head of research at BullTick Capital Markets.
Investors “need to see some degree of stability in global markets as well as a clearer picture on the actual degree of activity deceleration Brazil’s economy will experiment” before they return to Brazilian equities, Goldman wrote. “Our sentiment is that these two conditions will not be in place before the middle of” the second quarter of this year, when gross domestic product growth in the first quarter is released, he wrote.
Economic expansion will slow by more than half to 2 percent this year, according to a median forecast in a central bank survey published today.
Global Slowdown
The euro-area economy will shrink 1.9 percent this year, the first time since the currency was introduced a decade ago, the European Commission said. The European Central Bank last month predicted a 0.5 percent contraction for 2009.
Renner slid 5.8 percent to 16.80 reais.
Metalurgica Gerdau SA, which makes long steel for the construction industry, fell 1.6 percent to 22.50 reais. Operating unit Gerdau SA slid 1.6 percent to 16.80 reais.
Brazilian steelmakers probably won’t benefit from a pickup in steel distributors’ sales until the second quarter because of high stockpiles, Ativa Corretora said today in a note.
Telephone Companies
Vivo led declines in phone companies, slumping 6.1 percent to 31.65 reais.
“We maintain our cautious view on Brazilian mobile, despite strong subscriber growth prospects,” JPMorgan analysts led by Andre Baggio wrote in a note to clients. “The economic slowdown in 2009, coupled with higher foreign exchange, should hit mobile margins and growth.”
Telemar Norte Leste SA, which began offering mobile service in Sao Paulo state last year, declined 2.5 percent to 45.91 reais. Tim Participacoes SA, the third-biggest carrier, dropped 3.2 percent to 3.01 reais.
Banco do Brasil gained 0.3 percent to 14.44 reais. Merrill said the risk of more acquisitions ebbed after the bank bought regional lender Banco Nossa Caixa SA and acquired a 50 percent stake in Banco Votorantim SA, while concerns on possible political interference have also been reduced. Banco Itau Holding Financeira SA, which surpassed Banco do Brasil as Latin America’s biggest bank after agreeing to buy Uniao de Bancos Brasileiros SA, rose 1.5 percent to 24.30 reais. Unibanco rose 0.8 percent.
Mexican stocks advanced, led by retailers and construction companies, on bets a government spending plan may boost the economy.
Empresas Gains
Empresas ICA SAB, Mexico’s largest construction company, gained for a fifth day, advancing 0.7 percent to 24.22 pesos.
“It’s one of the few vehicles to bet on a sector that may be a winner this year,” said Carlos A. Gonzalez, analyst at IXE Grupo Financiero in Mexico City.
Mexican President Felipe Calderon announced plans on Jan. 7 for a record 570 billion pesos of public and private investment in construction this year.
Controladora Comercial Mexicana SAB, the third-largest Mexican supermarket chain, advanced 2.9 percent to 3.22 pesos after Excelsior newspaper reported it may announce a deal today with banks giving it more time to pay its debts.
Grupo Famsa SAB, a retailer with stores in the U.S. and Mexico, rose 4.6 percent to 8.02 pesos.
In other Latin America markets, Argentina’s Merval and Peru’s Lima General indexes gained 1 percent each and Colombia’s IGBC climbed 0.7 percent.
To contact the reporter on this story: Paulo Winterstein in Sao Paulo at [email]pwinterstein@bloomberg.net[/email].
Last Updated: January 19, 2009 17:02 EST
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
Another observation about Rio in particular is that I estimate about 10% of the working age male population is somehow employed in security whether police or private. The Suco stands even have security.[/QUOTE]
This is so sad, sad, sad. Even that I love Brazil, and have alot of Brazilian friends, I just can't shake of the feeling that the country is going in the wrong direction.
Bubba's report below is also a sign that more violence and crimes will occur, as people and families can't survive on thin air and tapwater.
I was thinking about relocating to Brazil a couple of years ago, but changed my mind, partly because crime and inflation.
Laiter (until recently) thinking about Panama city as a good place to live - However, a crimewave is flooding Panama and everyday streetcrime is up on a level unseen before in the "safe haven Panama", heck even Costa Rica - "The perfect paradise for retirement" is affected by crimes in a scale not seen before.
So where does this leave us? I'm not sure, Guess nowbody knows. The only thing that's sure is that it's uncertain times.
Probably will return to Asia during last quarter of 2009, waiting to find out what ways the winds are blowing.
Just my 5 cents, Ken Apples
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the president of Brazil, says that he would like to talk with the new American president, Barack Obama, before the "government machine" gets hold of him. Lula also expects that the US leader "would change his vision on Latinamerica and acknowledge the advance of regional democracy."
Lula da Silva made the statements during a meeting with his counterpart Hugo Chavez in the Venezuelan province of Zulia where he signed trade agreements and anticipated the Brazilian Senate would soon approve the incorporation of Venezuela to Mercosur.
"I haven't had a chance to talk with Obama and undoubtedly we must have a discussion before the government machine gets hold of him," said Lula. And looking to President Chavez he added "and you know Hugo that these machines are very powerful and if we don't fight against them they devour us in a short time and then we don't do what we should have done."
"These machines are capable of making us into something different to that what we were thinking about when we took office," underlined the Brazilian leader.
"Let's hope Obama is enlightened by God and gives him the sufficient intelligence and sensitivity to realize he must solve this crisis as soon as possible, that he can't let countries of Latinamerica and the Caribbean which depend exclusively on exports to the US, to suffer because of the crisis."
Lula also urged that the developed world "finds a quick solution before the crisis could again plunge the developing world into stagnation as happened in the eighties and nineties with the foreign debt crisis".
The Brazilian president further on anticipated that the Senate of his country would be approving at the latest in March, Venezuela's incorporation as full member of Mercosur.
"This is the will of Mercosur and Venezuela", he underlined.
"Many times we celebrate international agreements and the legislative process takes longer than we would like," he admitted.
President Chavez said the announcement was "wonderful news and so will be the results." He pointed out that with Venezuela inside Mercosur, bilateral trade with Brazil would certainly increase from its current US$ 6 billion annually.
Mercosur in 2006 was accepted as Mercosur member, but ratification from the Brazilian and Paraguayan congresses is pending. Uruguay and Argentina
Quick question guys:
My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Quick question guys:
My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Happens all the time. You should carry both passports. The visa is still valid.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Quick question guys:
My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm the advice of Poucolouco. I have entered Brasil on two occasions when I carried two passports - one was my expired passport containing a current Brasil visa and the other was my current passport. I also know two friends who have entered Brasil on the same circumstances.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Happens all the time. You should carry both passports. The visa is still valid.[/QUOTE]
Here is the official word from the Brasilian Consulate in Chicago.
[url]http://www.brazilconsulatechicago.org/en-5-0-0.html?faq=18[/url]
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Questner]Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
This seems logical and legal but the Brasilian Policia Federal are not always logical. They have individual authority to delay or deny entry based on suspicion. Why depart NYC on the Canadian passport? The question arises, does your third country passport have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the United States? If so, it should be no problem because you are travelling under the permission of that third country. You may just have to take one for the team on this situation and tell us how it worked.
[QUOTE=Questner]Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
I have done this.
When checking in for the flight to Brazil, you will need to show the passport of the country for which the tourist visa is waived. Otherwise they won't check you in. Upon arrival in Brazil, show that passport. They will stamp it. Same thing upon departure. When arriving in the US show your Canadian passport.
The only sticking point is that so few tourists from countries for which the visa is waived enter Brazil from the US, that the clerks don't know those countries very well. They might tell you that you need a visa or go look for their supervisor to get confirmation. I suggest you print out the page from the Brazilian embassy that lists all the countries for which the tourist visa is waived and bring it with you to show anyone who isn't sure.
For anyone's information, most of the EU countries are waived for the tourist visa. Several Caribbean countries are waived as well.
Note that there are several countries for which you must have proof of a yellow fever vaccination if you have visited any of those countries in the past 3 months. Colombia is one of those countries. Most of the rest are in Africa.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]The question arises, does your third country passport have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the United States? [/QUOTE]
This is irrelevant. Your Canadian passport allows you entry to the US because Canada is one of the waived countries for the US tourist visa.
Don't even mention your other passport to the US officials. That will just give them ammunition for questions that will make a very simple entry more complicated.
[QUOTE=Questner]Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
If Brazil requires a visa for canadian passport holder you might be denied baording at check in because the airline is responsible for the correct entry documents of the passenger. No matter what passport you present on arrival in Brazil. They might get suspicious and you woul dnot have an airline in the U.S. territory getting suspicious about a passenger. There is a fine of US$5,000 per passenger on account of the airline and immediate return on the first flight back to origin (ie same plane) on airline expenses/account (and surely you be made liable)
[QUOTE=George90]This is irrelevant. Your Canadian passport allows you entry to the US because Canada is one of the waived countries for the US tourist visa.
Don't even mention your other passport to the US officials. That will just give them ammunition for questions that will make a very simple entry more complicated.[/QUOTE]
This is understood. The question was not with regard to entering the US. It was related to entering Brasil using the third country passport arriving on a flight from the US.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]This is understood. The question was not with regard to entering the US. It was related to entering Brasil using the third country passport arriving on a flight from the US.[/QUOTE]
My mistake then. I read and understood your statement to be that the third country passport needed to have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the US.
[QUOTE=George90]My mistake then. I read and understood your statement to be that the third country passport needed to have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the US.[/QUOTE]
No problem George, perhaps my post was not clear. ;) I hope we have provided useful information for Questner to consider.
Thinking how every day you notice more turists to arrive, so what we can expect after the carnival, let's say in March ?
Cheaper prices and much more girls than turist with more or less the same weather or what ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek] Rio in March ?[/QUOTE]
On a cultural note, March 1st is Rio's birthday - "Aniversario da Cidade".
There's usually lots of festivities all around town, notably a huge concert (with most major Bossa Nova artists) on the beach.
An event much cooler than Carnaval IMHO.
[QUOTE=Prosal]On a cultural note, March 1st is Rio's birthday - "Aniversario da Cidade".
There's lots of festivities all around town, notably a huge concert (with most major Bossa Nova artists) on the beach.
An event much cooler than Carnaval IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. Not sure about cooler than Carnaval though. Bossa Nova is probably samba in denial ;)
Keep YOUR EYES OPEN!
Article from today.
[quote]Rio DE JANEIRO (AFP) — A British couple walking through Rio de Janeiro's famous Ipanema beachside district are recovering after being stabbed in an attempted robbery Thursday, according to media reports.
Philip and Alicia Sills, aged 61 and 49, were attacked by a knife-wielding assailant when they tried to fight back.
Philip Sills was wounded in the chest while his wife was injured on her left hand, the G1 news website said.
It was the second reported assault on foreign tourists in Rio within a week.
On January 14, a group of Italians was stopped near Copacabana beach by three robbers with knives who stole their cameras, money and credit cards.
Rio has a well-earned reputation for rampant street crime.
Embassies and authorities advise victims of armed robberies in Brazil to offer no resistance. Assailants often do not hesitate to use their weapons.[/quote]
Hi All,
Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.
1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.
2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.
3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).
I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Christopherd] Bossa Nova is probably samba in denial ;-)[/QUOTE]
Actually in Bossa Nova (new beat) the stress is primarily heard on the Upbeat of the tempo. As in "And 1 And 2 And 3 etc." Whereas in Samba the stress is primarly heard on the Downbeat as in "1 and 2 and 3 etc." The melody and rhythm is more syncopated than samba and this is why it was so easily adopted by jazz giants like Stan Getz...
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Actually in Bossa Nova (new beat) the stress is primarily heard on the Upbeat of the tempo. As in "And 1 And 2 And 3 etc." Whereas in Samba the stress is primarly heard on the Downbeat as in "1 and 2 and 3 etc." The melody and rhythm is more syncopated than samba and this is why it was so easily adopted by jazz giants like Stan Getz...[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, exactly like I said, Samba in denial. A white man's version that doesn't go faster than he can count ;) ;)
But historically it's just slowed down samba. Cos folks like you and me look a bit naff trying to dance as fast as black folk.
[i](I think Jazzy's maybe showing his salsa background with all this talk of 1,2,3, so to continue the comparison, isn't Cuban Salsa - "And 1 And 2" - the one that looks like you've drunk too many to dance LA style??)[/i]
Given the violence with which carioca bambas thrust their hips, maybe bossa nova is just the 'low injury' version haha . . .
The excellent biography I'm reading just now and which I'd recommend - 'Samba' by Alma Guillermoprieto - is the story of a gringo (well, a Mexican) who joined a samba school in a favela and got shot haha - no, she got involved with the school. She talks of samba as a 'two-by-four beat' which is maybe an easy way to think of it . . .
[i][color=red]Be very careful talking music when Jazzy's about - he knows his stuff!![/color][/i]
[QUOTE=Christopherd] so to continue the comparison, isn't Cuban Salsa - "And 1 And 2" - the one that looks like you've drunk too many to dance LA style??)
Nope! Eu estou contando os dias até eu chegar.
Seu amigo...
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy][QUOTE=Christopherd]
Nope! Eu estou contando os dias até eu chegar.
Seu amigo...[/QUOTE]
Surety you mean 'eu chego', amigo. ;)
[QUOTE=Christopherd][QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]
Surety you mean 'eu chego', amigo. ;)[/QUOTE]
Surely you mean "Surely"
Thinking that a good way to escape the carnival, I am not interested to see it and to get 4x higher prices for maybe worst service, could be to go to take a look to Buenos Aires, actually I see there are direct flight from Rio and from Porto Alegre too, much cheaper from PA, so someone that was in both places, could tell me soething more ?
So far, I am looking for nice white or tanned skin girls with not fat ass and I should find more in BsAs than in Rio.
What about the prices right now in BsAs for the pro and about the sex scene ?
I know, I am gonna to read right not Argentina Private, but so far as I am in net cafe, I do not have all the time, I could have if I was at my hometown.
Thanks in advance for any suggests...
....which are the brazilian aircompany that has a web page in english too, just to check if I get cheaper price if I buy the ticket by myself ?
For example right now looking for GO web page, but no abel to find it :(
[QUOTE=Lukasek]....which are the brazilian aircompany that has a web page in english too, just to check if I get cheaper price if I buy the ticket by myself ?
For example right now looking for GO web page, but no abel to find it :([/QUOTE]
[url]www.voegol.com.br[/url]
Login at the "OTHER COUNTRIES" option. they accept foreign AMEX cards.
[url]www.tam.com.br[/url]
Those two are the main ones.
Plenty of options in B's A's but not Termas there.
Main reasonably priced places are Cafe Orleans, The triangle bars and New Port. Asking price 300pesos negotiable.
Blacks and Madahos twice as much.
Privados average price 100-150pesos for the hour.
[QUOTE=Kozak]Hi All,
Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.
1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.
2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.
3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).
I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2191&page=6&pp=15[/url]
Read the above and you are done with RIO
El greco, thanks so much, I always put gol on google and found nothing....
It seems to me a bit cheaper BsAs than Rio, even if I have no idea about the attitude of brazilian and argentinian girls; which one are the most friendly and-or most passionate ?
p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ? How far are one each other exactly ?
Thanks....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Thinking that a good way to escape the carnival, I am not interested to see it and to get 4x higher prices for maybe worst service, could be to go to take a look to Buenos Aires, actually I see there are direct flight from Rio and from Porto Alegre too, much cheaper from PA, so someone that was in both places, could tell me soething more ?
So far, I am looking for nice white or tanned skin girls with not fat ass and I should find more in BsAs than in Rio.
p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ?
[/QUOTE]
BA is very restful after RJ. Recoleta is where I stayed last time and recommend it as a nice place to base yourself. Most stuff is walking distance. You'll find classic white skinned girls of great beauty and quite sophisticated (at a price) or there's always cheap and cheerful the other direction round the station. Nice nightlife near Recoleta, bars, social scene, world's best steaks. Getting there, fly by all means, but it's interesting if you do overland from Porto Alegre. Quality bus to Uruguay, check out the local talent and history, then the ferry across to BA. (maybe not your thing, but if you want non-touristy top-notch tango away from the crowds, PM me)
Thanks Christopherd, I wrote PM or if I answer you I got off topic as far we are in Brazil ;)
[QUOTE=Questner]Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Did not quite understand
But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?
[QUOTE=Questner]Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
This is not a problem, I do this quite frequently. IE Leave 1 country on 1 passport and enter Brazil on another. For the same reason you want to, my second passport requires no visa.
[QUOTE=Kozak]Hi All,
Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.
1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.
[/QUOTE]
would be easier if you explained what Blackbeards is.
There are internet agencies like [url]www.karlamodels.net[/url] with girls photos. there are sites with free-lancers like [url]www.hotside.com.br[/url] and dozens more
Unfortunately lots of sites are fraudulent: either the photos are stolen from model sites and the girl does not look like the one on the photo. Or too much photoshop. karlamodels.net is pretty honest, hotside tends to have fairly honest photos too, I believe.
[QUOTE=Kozak]
2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.
[/QUOTE]
whatever website they might have, they are of no relevance, nobody checks these sites. You will not be able to pick girls from these sites.
[QUOTE=Kozak]
3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).
[/QUOTE]
that is your taste. If you can get vacation in low season, and if you like low prices and little competition for the girls, come low season.
[QUOTE=Kozak]
I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I recommend Bwana Dik's Rio guide. Not sure where to get it outside of another pay site I am member of. Very good guide
I think there is a Bubba guide but I dont know it well.
Brazil Specialist,
Thanks for the info as for Blackbeard it is a resort that has the chics onsite so you can relax and not have to really go out alot.
As for the websites was looking more for adresses so that if i book a hotel so i am close to these places walking wise or taxi wise.
There is nothing illegal about using two passports. I had a friend who was a correspondent in South Africa. Because South African stamps on a passport tainted it -- the officials were perfectly willing to stamp separate pieces of papers that were attached to the passport -- he always arrived in a black African vountry with a clean passport.
He said that at Johannesburg's an iimmigation official once went through his passport several times, shook his head and said, "You are a very interesting man. You always leave but never arrive."
My friend said that during his years in Africa he noticed that few officials knew how to read travel documents.
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]I recommend Bwana Dik's Rio guide. Not sure where to get it outside of another pay site I am member of. Very good guide
I think there is a Bubba guide but I dont know it well.[/QUOTE]
just Google for Bwana Dik and you'll get a nicely laid out pdf version. It's a great intro, very similar IMO to Bubba's although Bubba's is much bigger I think.
Both are rather high-end, and both rather orientated towards the US newbie monger IMO, but Rio is so confusing to a newcomer that the straightforward style is probably what's needed. I certainly found both very useful.
Both guides are a quickstart. It's a lot easier to get interested enough to RTFF after you've been once and realise the scale of the task ;)
Bubba and Bwana Dik's tastes are not mine however, useful as they are. I would rather recommend Sperto's, "How to get dirty in Rio," but unfortunately it hasn't been published yet ;)
Bubba's is more up to date from memory I think. BD's is 2006. Plus he makes really f-wit comments like, (discussing VM), "Go with a group and/or book the services of a guide." I hereby offer his subscribers my srevices, payment to be made in the form of a one hour session with a bunda of my choice at 4x4 on the way :D
The only p4p place to go in a group is a top terma.
btw congrats to all the Americans on the Board who now have a human being to represent their country. It's amazing how views change of the US just by changing the President. We love you again now! <g>
You can leave country A with a passport issued by country C and immediately after enter country B with passport issued by country D. When you leave, just remember to show same passport you show when entering.
I don't think airlines keep record of nationalities but just names.
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]Did not quite understand
But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek] BsAs vs. Rio[/QUOTE]
Frankly Luka, I really don't know why you'd bother to go all the way down to BA as you could take a cheap and short flight to Sao Paulo.
For pros quality and boites, clubs and thermas abundance, Sao Paulo blows BA (as Rio BTW) out of the water.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]El greco, thanks so much, I always put gol on google and found nothing....
It seems to me a bit cheaper BsAs than Rio, even if I have no idea about the attitude of brazilian and argentinian girls; which one are the most friendly and-or most passionate ?
p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ? How far are one each other exactly ?
Thanks....[/QUOTE]
Rio girls win B'sA's ones hands down. Microcentro good for daytime activity ( many privados) and shoping around Florida street. Recoleta more upscale residential area and much better for night time ten min away by taxi about 10-15 pesos.
Place to hang out there is near the cemetery. Don't lough guys but that's true. No metro station (SUBTE) near by there though.
Try this map to get orientated and read WorldTraveler's 69 guide in Argentina Private.
[url]http://mapa.buenosaires.gov.ar/sig/index.phtml[/url]
You get a fix with street name and a cross street or street number (altura).
Pricewise in November that I was there it was about 50% cheaper than Brasil because or the reais exchange rate 1-2,5 to the euro. Now it must be almost the same. What I mean is that the prices were almost the same as in Brasil but you had a 1-1,5 reais to pesos. Many Brasilian tourists there buying everything especially shoes.
You need to book ahead your apartment or hotel room.Too many Brasilians are thinking the way you do of going there during carnival time.
CVC tour operator is having bus tours from Sao to Porto Allegre, Montevideo, Buenos, Acuncion and the waterfalls. Consider going to Foz do Iguacu as well. IMHO something that everyone who comes to Brasil must see.
Prosal...thanks...as you know I am here for the first time, after back to russia, I went for almost one month to Bratislava, so I really had no time to read the forum, but I thought Rio was in Brazil the city with the biggest fun and better sex scene....To tell the truth I do not like so much Rio, but for example I thought girl from San Paolo are almost only dark skin, am I wrong ?
Again if San Paolo it is better, why most of mongers go directly to Rio ? It is only cause it has more famous name, eve if maybe it offers less, or what ?
Prosal think Argentina was always a place I liked to see, however I am here till 22 march when I will have to go back home, I was thinking to stay all the 3 weeks of march in Rio, but as I saw yesterday, here every day it is the same, I could say I am get boring, as after I got 7 girls in 5 days from termas, now I have the feeling here I saw all the best I could see and I am tired at the night to go to help to see the exactly same faces and prices I saw on 14 january during my first day here....
Should I spent a couple of hour to read san paolo thread, I guess, but it is bad I have to read argentina forum as well....
Porto Alegre:I give a try,cause to fly Rio BsAs,costs the same as to fly rio porto alegre and porto alegre BsAs.
El greco....it seems you like much more rio girls instead brazilian ones, right ? Any reasons?
Thanks so much guys....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Should I spent a couple of hour to read san paolo thread..[/QUOTE]
You should indeed. All the info is there, and at one place.
Once again, no one in his right mind can deny that Sao Paulo has the greatest P4P scene in South America. You can hit a different place every night during three monthes without even begin to discover what the city has to offer. There is literally hundreds of massage places, prives, strip bars, upscale boites, clubs, after-hours discos, ect (not talking about regular nightlife), contrarily to Rio which can only display a low-end brothel zone, a dozen of mediocre thermas, a few lousy strip bars and one disco filled with faveladas.
In term of garotas (I know your tastes!) don't worry, you'll find in SP enough blondes and white-skinned brunettes to keep you busy for the next 20 years.
Sao Paulo Litoral Norte beachscene is great BTW. Definitely worth a few days, as Barreto if you go down to Porto Alegre.
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]Did not quite understand
But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?[/QUOTE]
Passenger list is not in the hands (unless required for a check) of immigration officers at the counter..
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]This is not a problem, I do this quite frequently. IE Leave 1 country on 1 passport and enter Brazil on another. For the same reason you want to, my second passport requires no visa.[/QUOTE]And what about the first country/passport: not requiring a visa to enter Brazil?
No onjections at the check-in? They are supposed to check the validity of your travel documents (and have in their hands only the 1st passport)
[QUOTE=Vittu]There is nothing illegal about using two passports. I had a friend who was a correspondent in South Africa. Because South African stamps on a passport tainted it -- the officials were perfectly willing to stamp separate pieces of papers that were attached to the passport -- he always arrived in a black African vountry with a clean passport.
He said that at Johannesburg's an iimmigation official once went through his passport several times, shook his head and said, "You are a very interesting man. You always leave but never arrive."
My friend said that during his years in Africa he noticed that few officials knew how to read travel documents.[/QUOTE]That happens also for people traveling to both Israel and Arab countries.
Some countries even grant you two passports for the purpose: one to use for some destinations, the other for other ones.
This is different than leaving one country with passport of nation A and enter the other with passport of nation B.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
El greco....it seems you like much more rio girls instead brazilian ones, right ? Any reasons?
Thanks so much guys....[/QUOTE]1-You are forgeting the beach scene of Rio Lukasek. That is Rio versus Sao Paolo
2-I guess you mean Rio girls over B's A's ones
Well in Rio you can find all the iris colours and shades plus IMO more PSE.
I like B'sA's for what it can offer to me as well as Rio. I like variety otherwise I am getting easily bored the way you do. For this variety on this trip I did Quito, Lima, B'sA's (been there many times), Sao Paolo, Rio and finally Fortaleza. Far East again in a short while.
Depending on ones taste I know that one may prefer Rio over SP and vice versa. Nevertheless, what are the current attitudes about Sao Paulo vs Rio? Has the current economic downturn influenced those who may travel to one or the other?
My friend, I am sorry to say that your idea is not correct.
Brazil in general but Sao Paulo in particular is the place where you can find the best variety of gilrs: all races, types, ethnics are here (no need to mention, I repeat all of them).
So, you can select what you like and surely won't get bored even in weeks.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I thought girl from San Paolo are almost only dark skin, am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Prosal I am really starting to thinking Rio is so overrated, in my home town Rio is famous for the girls, you listen often about copacabana and ipanema and I have no one friend that went or speak about San Paolo, I neither thought there are beaches too. The fact you know my taste, it conforts me
Shiiiiiiit right now in internet cafe inside Miami building on prado junior. I listen few men screw loud and now in front of this internet point a man with a gun, no clear what happens, neither clear if he is a police man or not. Half here are smiling. Now I listen, arrived police byt the sound of "sirena" of their car. This is brazil. Everything is nice till something happens?
El greco you are right, I thought Argentinian girls.
Beach scene that San Paolo has at litoral norte right?
Albert to me variety is not so important, as, if I did not get boring with 45 days in Russia, where most of girls look the same, but the same very beautiful look, so it means I will never get boring if the quality is high, but even an huge variety with average quality makes boring me very soon.
Everything ended here, now from the glass door I see again normal people walking. I have neither idea of what happens and indeed I neither want to know it.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]and what about the first country/passport: not requiring a visa to enter Brazil?
No onjections at the check-in? They are supposed to check the validity of your travel documents (and have in their hands only the 1st passport)[/QUOTE]If they ask I show them the passport I intend to enter Brazil in. Many people have dual citizenship, it is not a big deal. Most countries insist you enter and leave 1 country on the same passport. There is no requirement once you have entered and then left a country to continue using the same passport in the next country you intend to enter. You are making a big deal out of nothing. It is perfectly acceptable to do what I have outlined above, nobody at the airport or immigration will blink an eye if you have 2 passports.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Beach scene that San Paolo has at litoral norte right ?[/QUOTE]
Maybe you missed this post :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=717769&postcount=181[/url]
Litoral Norte is a 4 hours trip by bus (with company Litoranea if my memory serves) from Sao Paulo - Rodoviaria do Tiete.
Hello. I am new here, the March I ll be first time in Rio, for ten days. What I must read here into the forum to ll be ready for my trip! Sorry for my english. Its no my language: P I am greek.
That is all you have to do.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1782[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=569[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2478[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1507[/url]
[QUOTE=Spiros Katas]Hello. I am new here, the March I ll be first time in Rio, for ten days. What I must read here into the forum to ll be ready for my trip! Sorry for my english. Its no my language: P I am greek.[/QUOTE]
Here is an interesting article on Brazils Indians
"The Amazon's indigenous people: The other Brazil"
[url]http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12641796[/url]
Here is a public opinion taken in Brazil of racism.
I translated & extrapolated some of the article in English:
Public opinion - 26/11/2008 Preconception admitted for Brazilians diminishes In 1995 the Datafolha carried through an ample quantitative study on the preconception of color between the Brazilians. 5081 bigger people of 16 years in 121 cities of the country had been heard. The research generated a special notebook and a book, published for the publishing company Stokes. Thirteen years later, the researchers of the Datafolha had been the field, to again hear the Brazilians on the subject. One of the constatações of the research is that, while did not have change how much to the preconception that attributes its compatriots, the percentages of that admit this feeling diminished.
The great majority of the Brazilians (91%) believes that, in Brazil, the whites have preconception of color in relation to the blacks.
Of these, 57% believe that the whites have much preconception;
29% find that a little of preconception exists.
In the survey carried through in 1995, 89% said that the Brazilian whites had preconception in relation to the blacks, that is, practically identical percentage to the registered one today, since the margin of error, of both the surveys, is of colon percentile, for more or less.
Between that if they declare whites, 57% say to exist much preconception against the blacks in Brazil. This tax is of 55% between that if they classify as black and of 58% between that if they declare mediums brown.
The escolarizados blacks more demonstrate if to feel target of little preconception of what of lesser escolaridade. Between that they had arrived only until basic education, 59% affirm that the whites have much preconception in relation to the blacks. This tax falls for 53% between that they have average education and for 50% between that they have superior escolaridade.
Something similar occurs in what it says respect to the economic classification of the interviewed one. Between that they belong to classrooms D and E, 60% find that much preconception on the part of the whites in relation to the blacks in Brazil exists. This tax is of 55% between that they are part of classroom C and of 49% between that they integrate the classrooms and B
The Datafolha presented to interviewed some phrases, so that they said if they agree or they disagree with them. As well as in 1995, the majority disagreed total with the prejudiced phrases, and the percentages of discord in relation to these phrases are, today, greaters of what the registered ones in that survey. They disagree total with the phrase “if God made different races is so that they do not join 81% of the interviewed ones”, bigger tax 14 points of what the registered one in the research of 13 years behind. Between that if they declare of black color, 86% disagree total with the phrase, tax that is of 82% in such a way enters the whites how much between the mediums brown.
I thought it was an interesting article:
I post more later
Brazilians if divide how much the image of the black in the media
The Brazilians if divide how much to the way as the blacks costumam to appear in the television. While 31% affirm that the films and the novels show the blacks in a true way, as they really live, 33% find that they are shown in negative way, in worse situation of what its life is in the reality. For 27%, the reality of the blacks is shown in positive way, better of what the one that they really live. These results are seemed the registered ones in the 1995 survey. In that occasion, 34% they found that the blacks were shown in a true way, for 32% the reality black them was shown in negative way and 24% considered that the life of the blacks in the films and novels was shown in more positive way of what the reality.
Between that if they declare of color black, the tax of that finds that the films and novels show the blacks in a negative way, worse of what they really live, arrives above average general 39%, six points and nine points above of the tax of that they think thus registered between that if they declare of white color (30%).
Majority never voted in black politician
The majority of the Brazilians (62%) never affirms to have voted in one black politician, but it admits the hypothesis to come to make it. In relation to the research carried through in 1995, this tax oscillated a percentile point for top (it was of 61%), inside of the margin of error, that is of colon percentile. Already the percentage of that they say already to have voted in one black politician oscillated of 30% for 32%. They affirm that never they had voted in one black politician, and that they would never vote, 3%, half of the percentage registered in the survey of 13 years behind (6%). Between that if black color declare, 41% say already to have voted in one politician of its color, tax nine points bigger of what the registered one enters the total of interviewed and 12 points superior to the verified one between that if they declare whites. Between that if they declare mediums brown, this tax is of 31%, practically identical to the registered one enters the total of the sample. The voters who would vote or already had voted in one black politician do not make difference how much to the position. The percentile ones go of 86% that they would vote in a black for councilman 91% of that would give its vote to somebody of this color for president
More Brazilian they admit Inter-racial relationships
In last the 13 years it increased the percentage of Brazilians who already had had relationships with people of different color of its. They say to have boyfriend with somebody of another color 47%, bigger tax five points of what the registered one in 1995 (42%). The percentage of that they affirm to have married with somebody of another color passed of 16% for 19% in this period. On the other hand, the tax of that never says to have married boyfriend nor with somebody of different color fell nine points, having last of 43% for 34%. The tax of that they never affirm to have if related with somebody of different color of its is six points above average between the ones that if they declare whites (40%) and 10 points below of the average between that if they declare of black color (24%). Between that if they declare of black color, 25% already had married somebody of another color, tax that is of 15% between that if they declare whites. Between the women whom if they declare of white color, the tax of that never affirms to have boyfriend with somebody of different color of its arrives 45%, superior tax 11 points to the average. Between the men who if declare whites, this tax is of 34%, percentage inside of the average. Already between the women whom if they declare of black color, 25% already had married somebody of another color, tax that is of 24% between the men who if declare blacks.
42% know some entrepreneur black; 48% know some university professor black.
Practically all the Brazilians who if declare black color (97%) have some white friend, with a fast difference of classroom: between the blacks that belong to the classrooms, B and C 99% arrive, before 93% between the pertaining ones to D and E. The friendship with somebody which if attributes different color of the proper one is lesser in the contrary situation: 92% of the whites affirm to have a black friend, but also it has a classroom difference: 94% between that they are part of the classrooms, B or C, against 87% of that they represent the base of the economic pyramid. They know some entrepreneur black 42% of the Brazilians, mainly the men (50%, against 34% of the women), the ones that have age between 26 and 40 years (47%), the most escolarizados (60%), the ones that belong to the classrooms and B (58%) and richest (65%). But the results differ as the region: while 41% or more than the Brazilians who live in the Southeast, north-eastern or in the region North/Center-West know some entrepreneur black, in the South this tax are slightly lesser (38%).
One parcels out a little bigger affirms to know university a professor black (48%), among which if they detach again escolarizados (76%), the richest (72%) e, in this in case that, the ones that belong to the classrooms and the B (64%), beyond youngest (56%), that they are generally the ones that attend a course some superior course currently. The difference most important, however, occurs between blacks and whites: of the first ones, 55% know some university professor black, against 47% of that if they declare whites. E, again, the ones that less have this knowledge or social contact are the ones that live in the South: 44%, before 48% of that they inhabit north-eastern, and 50% of that live in the Southeast or the North/Center-West. In comparison with the social proximity of black entrepreneurs or university professors, one parcels out a little bigger (52%) knows a doctor black, mainly the most escolarizados and the ones that belong to the classrooms and the B (64% of each), beyond, as it was of if waiting, of richest (79%). The difference for region is observed again: while north-eastern 52% and 53% of that they inhabit the North/Center-West or the Southeast know some doctor black, it reaches 47% of the sulistas. The knowledge or the social contact with black doctors is, still, different for blacks (56% know some) and whites (50%), what it is accented between the black color that belong to the classrooms and B (72%), in comparison to the whites and mediums brown of this economic segment (56% and 55%, respectively). These results, and specifically the differences between social stratus, probably if must more to the fact of that, being these careers of the elite - entrepreneur, doctor and university professor, the blacks occupy that them more are known by its pairs, that is, also for the more privileged population segments.
Already, how much to the differences for region, of the one not to conclude if they elapse of a lesser social inclusion or the proportionally lesser presence of blacks in the South, in comparison with the remaining portion of the country. The majority of the Brazilians (62%) works with some black person in the company. Valley to notice that, as well as in the three described situations previously, the social stratus that more affirm this proximity are the same ones. In this in case that, 77% between 68% and, escolarizados arrive 74% richest of the classified ones in the top of the economic pyramid. Also the difference of blacks (72%) in relation to the whites (58%), and between the regions, even so with more differences between them is happened again: 49% of the sulistas say to the same have some black in workstation, tax that is of 55% between that they live in the region North/Center-West, arrives north-eastern 63%, and is bigger in the Southeast (69%).
Racial discrimination Perception of racial preconception diminishes 80% of the blacks are satisfied with the appearance, and they would not change nothing in it.
The majority of the Brazilians (54%) agrees that the main problem faced for the blacks in the country is the difficulties related to the work and/or to obtain job. This perception increased in relation the 1995, when 45% of the interviewed ones had mentioned spontaneously that this would have to be the biggest difficulty of the Brazilian black population. Considering it auto-attribution of the color, between the blacks, 59% find that this is the main faced problem, before 50% of the whites that think thus, and 55% of that if they consider mediums brown. Also it increased slightly the parcel of that the schools, study and culture point the difficulty of the blacks in the access: of 14% it has thirteen years for 19% this year. Escolarizados Brazilians more (28%) and with familiar income above of twenty minimum wages (31%) have this perception above average. On the other hand, the perception of the racial preconception, general way, diminished, in the opinion of 44% in that year for 32% today, perception that diminishes, also, for the black women and men: 31% and 30%, this year, against 35% and 37%, respectively, in 1995. Other vicissitudes faced for the black population would be the proper difficulties in the life in society, as restrictions the public and private places (in the 9% opinion), the marginalização of the blacks, visas as outlaws (4%) and difficulties of access the health services (2%). Other types of problems, varied had been mentioned to it, 6%, for 2% the blacks do not face any problem due its color, and 9% had not known to say. As well as the perception of that the racial preconception, general way, diminished in Brazil between 1995 and 2008, less Brazilian if they feel discriminated today in virtue of the color: 16% against 22% have one decade more than. However, 41% of the blacks affirm, spontaneously, already to have suffered preconception in function from the color of the skin, under the form of discrimination in public or private places (13%), discrimination in the school, on the part of professors and/or colleagues (9%), discrimination in the work (8%), had the maldosos commentaries and tricks in relation to the color of skin (6%) e, still, to the loss of possibility of some vacant or job (5%), amongst other forms of discrimination. But 7% of the Brazilians who if say whites affirm to have suffered discrimination from color. Younger Brazilian blacks, up to 25 years, mention themselves, above average, the discrimination in the school, while the ones that have between 26 and 40 cite more the discrimination in the work (11%), and 17% of that have 41 years or more they cite more to the discrimination in public places. Stimulated to say if already they had suffered discrimination in function from the color in the hour to obtain some work, 21% of that if blacks declare had answered affirmatively. A little less frequent, as affirms, is the preconception ahead of some possibility to receive promotion (12%), ahead of the possibility to study in some school (10%), and possibility to buy or to rent a house (8%). Between the blacks whose familiar income is of up to ten minimum wages are still bigger the ratio of that already they had been felt discriminated in the hour to obtain a job (21%), whereas between that they have income between ten and twenty wages it is distinguished perception of discrimination in studying in some school (22%). Between that if these taxes call mediums brown do not exceed 6%, and they do not pass of 2% between the whites. To more investigate a little on the perception of color of skin of the Brazilians, the Datafolha asked for the interviewed ones that they classified some personalities known for the color. For 70%, former-president Fernando Enrique Cardoso is undeniably white, a still bigger parcel (79%) classifies Gilbert Gil as black, category where 54% include the actress Such Araújo, and 27% mention the actress Camila Pitanga. The case of this, however, can disclose a little of the difficulty of the definition of color in Brazil, a time that others 36% consider medium brown Camila. The same it is observed in relation to the Juliana actress Breads, white for 22% of the Brazilians, but medium brown for 49%; also in relation to the former-player of Romário soccer, black color for 31% and medium brown for 51%, opinion still more divided in relation the Squid, white as 45%, but medium brown for 42%. More emblematic of this supposed difficulty they are the cases of the player of the Brazilian election Marta, the singers Zeca Pagodinho and Caetano Veloso and, mainly, of Ronaldo, the phenomenon. In the case of Marta, 13% of the Brazilians consider it white, 20% black color and 35%, medium brown. They also classify Zeca Pagodinho as white 13%, as black 22%, and as medium brown 52%, while Caetano Veloso are white for 26%, black color for 14% and medium brown second 40%. Ronaldo, of all the investigated personalities, is what more it confuses: for 23% it is white, for 20% it is black, but in the 44% opinion it is medium brown.
Hi all,
Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?
Thanks!
BB.
Brazil's largest city is too often overlooked in favour of Rio
[url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/latin_america/article5621645.ece[/url]
[QUOTE=Bigben0]Hi all,
Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?
Thanks!
BB.[/QUOTE]
Try this place. Take metro and exit at Carioca station, to Ave Rio Branco. There is a tall building on your left, next to Metro. It is full of little computer tech stores (3 floors). It is a fair bet one will have what you are looking for.
Thanks i'll give it a try!
Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.
Thanks!
Brazillian ebay
[url]http://lista.mercadolivre.com.br[/url]
Or dell Brazil
[url]http://www.dell.com.br/[/url]
Theres also a computer shop sells bits and pieces spares, got some Dell ram and stuff before in ipanema few blocks down from general ororio, think number 311 or somthing in small shopping center tpye place, left hand side walking down from genral osorio.
[QUOTE=Bigben0]Hi all,
Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?
Thanks!
BB.[/QUOTE]
Friend not to mention that everytime a girl will write you sms and you will take out your iphone you will risk somebody bad will notice you have it...not so good to show such expensive stuff in Brazil...Actually for the first time now in BsAs I am using my Armani clothes, in Brazil all the time I dressed enough cheap, I got the feeling the best you dress, the more higher price they ask you....imho
I do not know if you have enough time, but why not to buy a gsm nokia, a cheap one, for 20 or 30 euro by ebay for example, it will be more than enough and if you lose, you lose only little money.
I do not know where you can rent it, but try to ask to the agency or owner that rent you the flat, I am pretty sure that if you ask in advance they can rent you.
Actually I have good nokia with my home town number that all the time I leave in my flat and a cheap nokia with brazilian number that I take with me, it works good for me.
Probaly better just buying one, if you take your passport to TIM store you can get pay as you go sim and phone $R300 work out cheaper than renting which can end up with problems, theres 2 or 3 on An N copacabana, and one I can think of in ipanema not too far from general osorio also few in leblon, one deffo at leblon shopping.
Top up credit, *222 it will read back your number imputed then ask to confirm by pressing 4
Useful to check your credit, *222#
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Check the using cell phones thread to find guys who might know more about this and pm them (just in case they miss this post).
It seems most on that thread agreed that no matter what, it is best just to buy a phone. I got one for about $50US and just recharge it when I get to Rio.
True, I overpaid for an OI sim card ($US40),plus postage, but I now know you can get them for about R$15-25 once in Rio.
I used to rent a phone at $US5, a day which was about the going rate 5 years ago. It might be more now, but it seems you will be paying at least $50 for the entire 10 days. You can buy a gsm for that amount and then you own it and can take it down whenever you go back to Brazil.
Here is where I got my phone, the A55, that is now actually $10 cheaper than when I bought it. Shipping was $10 and I got it in 3 days, so for you the total will be US$49 and it comes with an international sim card and a toll free number so people in most countries can call you.
[url]http://www.telestial.com/[/url]
Thanks guys for the replies. I will follow the wise advise administered in here and buy a cheap unlocked phone before coming down and then get a sim card locally.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
It seems most on that thread agreed that no matter what, it is best just to buy a phone. I got one for about $50US and just recharge it when I get to Rio.
[/QUOTE]
Yep. I use an old phone any right-minded mugger would want to be paid just for taking it off my hands. But I kep all my Brasil numbers on it and just get a new Sim if I´m away long enough for the old one to run out. A smart phone is great for music or to use as a mini-computer, but it stays in the apartment or hotel.
ps you may have noticed that in Copa especially phones travel best stuffed down the front of your jeans.
I have yet to visit Brazil, and the itch to do it now is back, bigger than ever. This is partly because the real is finally weaker, and probably on the way back up, so now or never I guess. Beyond that, there are more travel deals or so I hear. Rather than wait to be jobless and poor, I would like to spend this money on garotas than buying stocks.
As an aside, the best I have ever done in the market was lose my shirt, and that was in the best of times. Never again! Anyway, I was thinking there must be other lonely travellers who want to visit Brazil in the low season (April or May or June). How do we unite? I know this is a difficult prospect for people who know each other, and pretty near impossible for stangers over the interweb. I wonder if there is a business idea there - finding other horny men to travel with to sex vacations! I favour the odds over finding a decent woman to date on a dating site!
Ok! I'm off to Brasil next Friday First time in Brasil, first time in America, first time I travel alone
I will go to Rio first and there I will meet a girl so I think I'll be safe that way
After I'm going to SP to meet someone else, so I have locals that will watch out for me.)
But I will arrive at the international airport in sp and have a flight to Rio that same night. There is 3 hours between the flights and I will go with TAM from sp to Rio. Is 3 hours enough time? I will arrive at terminal 1. Are the signs in english or portugese only? I only speak english.
Any help would be much appreciated! A bit nervous and very excited about this trip.
PS: Anyone know something about Ilha Bella? Thats where we are headed. I hear there are "special" mosquitos there. Any info?
LC
Louis,
No problem in GRU, the airport is easy to navigate and find your way to your connection. 3 Hours is more than enough between the 2 flights in GRU. The signs are in both English and Portuguese. You may also easily ask the people there and you could find some English speaking staff. But no worries, GRU is not that difficult to navigate.
Ilha Bela is a gorgeous place, you will love it. It will be packed at this time of the year, full of very willing and beautiful young non pros. However, Portuguese is a must to tap into that market. If you have a good local wingman, you could sample some. But if not, best to BYOG.
Welcome to Brasil. You will have a blast!:)
No one is safe in Brazil, not even the son of President Lula who was assaulted in his hometown.
Famed talkshow Ratinho always used to compare the violence in his country to a a civil war. How right was he !.
From OGlobo
"O psicólogo Marcos Cláudio Lula da Silva, 38 anos, filho do presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, foi assaltado na noite de sexta-feira, por volta de 22h, ao parar em um semáforo na Rua Frei Gaspar, no centro de São Bernardo do Campo, ABC paulista. No boletim de ocorrência consta que ele foi abordado por três homens armados, que anunciaram o roubo, o ameaçaram e levaram o carro, um cartão de banco e documentos pessoais. Ninguém ficou ferido. "
Most of the reports I read state that ATM's are closed on week ends. I am arriving on a saturday ,what would be the best place/exchange rate to get $R?
I am staying in Copacabana.Are the Cambios in Copa open on Saturdays?
[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Most of the reports I read state that ATM's are closed on week ends. I am arriving on a saturday ,what would be the best place/exchange rate to get $R?
I am staying in Copacabana.Are the Cambios in Copa open on Saturdays?[/QUOTE]
ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.[/QUOTE]Is there a HSBC or other type of ATM that will take a UK card anywhere near Rua Almirante Goncalves as this is where I'm hoping to stay.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.[/QUOTE]
But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.
Thank you all for the info.
Is there a HSBC or Citbank around Help or near the Marriott hotel on Ave. Atlan?
[QUOTE=Perkele]But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Is there a HSBC or other type of ATM that will take a UK card anywhere near Rua Almirante Goncalves as this is where I'm hoping to stay.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,
Yeah no problems using UK cards, there an HSBS on the street behind you and I think it actually right around that block where Rua Almirante Goncalves is on Av Ns Copacabana. The red ATM also work good but do an additional charge of $R8 then whatever your bank charges, its not a problem but my first choice is HSBC as its only your standard £1. 50 for using abroad which is less than standard. And free from machine. Just select 'Checking Account'
Also I found the ATM inside the many pharmacys good if you have card problems which I do occasionally. One word of advice call your bank and let them know your dates your travelling. Its a new security procedure and they COMPLETLY shut you down and can prove fatal if you fuck up any of the security questions and they shut you down and you got to go into a branch in the UK!
Also as reported all banks only give you $R100 after 10pm and more hassles at weekends or holidays.
But not sure if others know but I know of one bank ATM in Rio where you can get your daily limit any time well 24hrs. Its in the supermarket at Zona Sul at General Osorio, across from banana jacks and the Irish Pub. Its saved me several times, when getting involved in latenight visits to Sinless and the like and taking extra girl or girls
Also to use any credit\debit card in after hour, pay by the hour motels they add on 30% extra on your bill! I though they was trying it on but I guess either pissed previously or first time paid with card and used cash.
Happy times await you.
[QUOTE=Perkele]But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.[/QUOTE]
Also, many will simply just run out of cash over the weekend . . . If one doesn´t work, shop around.
[QUOTE=Marcop 12]Hi,
Yeah no problems using UK cards, there an HSBS on the street behind you and I think it actually right around that block where Rua Almirante Goncalves is on Av Ns Copacabana. The red ATM also work good but do an additional charge of $R8 then whatever your bank charges, its not a problem but my first choice is HSBC as its only your standard £1. 50 for using abroad which is less than standard. And free from machine. Just select 'Checking Account'
Also I found the ATM inside the many pharmacys good if you have card problems which I do occasionally. One word of advice call your bank and let them know your dates your travelling. Its a new security procedure and they COMPLETLY shut you down and can prove fatal if you fuck up any of the security questions and they shut you down and you got to go into a branch in the UK!
Also as reported all banks only give you $R100 after 10pm and more hassles at weekends or holidays.
But not sure if others know but I know of one bank ATM in Rio where you can get your daily limit any time well 24hrs. Its in the supermarket at Zona Sul at General Osorio, across from banana jacks and the Irish Pub. Its saved me several times, when getting involved in latenight visits to Sinless and the like and taking extra girl or girls
Also to use any credit\debit card in after hour, pay by the hour motels they add on 30% extra on your bill! I though they was trying it on but I guess either pissed previously or first time paid with card and used cash.
Happy times await you.[/QUOTE]Great info, thanks.
hi all,
does anyone know of any good freelance portuguese tutors? i'm looking to do 1 or 2 hours per day for a while get upto speed.
or any other recommended options
so if anyone got contact details or website or where i can locate would be excellent
thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Thank you all for the info.
Is there a HSBC or Citbank around Help or near the Marriott hotel on Ave. Atlan?[/QUOTE]
There are two HSBC banks near the Marriott, both on Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, one is towards Siqueira Campos, near Zona Sul supermercado,
the other one is towards Ipanema, just past Rua Santa Clara. The first one is nearer to the Marriott.
Citibank is near the first HSBC on the corner Figueireido de Magalhaes and Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, next to Blockbuster.
[QUOTE=Rio Lover #2]Citibank is near the first HSBC on the corner Figueireido de Magalhaes and Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, next to Blockbuster.[/QUOTE]That Citibank ATM closed. They opened a Branch with 24hr ATM at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 828. It's between Churrascaria Monchique and R. Constante Ramos.
That Blockbuster also closed. There's a Lojas Americanas on that corner now.
Folks
I used to access WikiGP ([url]http://www.wikigp.com/wiki/pagina_principal[/url]) for information about the ladies in preparation for a visit sometime in the next month or so. However, the site no longer seems to be responding.
Is this a case of "not outside Brazil" like a certain other site - or has it just gone down/ been taken off
Galinsoga
[QUOTE=Chingon]That Citibank ATM closed. They opened a Branch with 24hr ATM at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 828. It's between Churrascaria Monchique and R. Constante Ramos.
That Blockbuster also closed. There's a Lojas Americanas on that corner now.[/QUOTE]
Chingon,
Thank you for the update...
It has been more than a year that I haven't been to Rio. Fortunately I will be back by the end of April.
Infos about GDP's and test drives may be found on following websites too:
[url]www.gpguia.net[/url]
[url]www.forumsd.com.br[/url]
[url]www.forum.portaldasacompanhantes.com.br[/url]
[url]www.gpsportclub.com[/url]
[url]www.gpbr.net/forum/[/url]
[QUOTE=Galinsoga]Folks
I used to access WikiGP ([url]http://www.wikigp.com/wiki/pagina_principal[/url]) for information about the ladies in preparation for a visit sometime in the next month or so. However, the site no longer seems to be responding.
Is this a case of "not outside Brazil" like a certain other site - or has it just gone down/ been taken off
Galinsoga[/QUOTE]
Hey can anyone recommend a website that sells the generic versions of vitamin V and C? $10-$12 a pop is alot when you add up the usage.
What is the legal limit for alcohol and cigarettes being brought into brazil (GIG). What is GIG like as an airport?
Your advice and experiences is appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Is there any internet link that is streaming the carnival live?[/QUOTE]
yeah.
[url]http://www.carnaval.salvador.ba.gov.br/2009/Servicos/AoVivo.asp[/url]
for Bahia. These cams are up 24 hours a day.
Rio is doing less live streaming but this second site, [url]http://carnaval2009.ig.com.br/aovivo/[/url] , keeps up with realtime information and live feeds from Rio time-to-time. They focus on Bahia quite a bit like the first site too. They start the live feeds when things get pumping. Just click on the" Geral" heading and the video will start.
The second one is probably the best site.
TJ
[QUOTE=Koolkid]What is the legal limit for alcohol and cigarettes being brought into brazil (GIG). What is GIG like as an airport?
Your advice and experiences is appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Alcohol you can bring abroad 1 liter. At the GIG tax free you may buy 12 liters of each kind, Whisky, vodka etc., up to limit of 500 USD.
Why would you bring cigarettes? They are very cheap in Brasil.
[QUOTE=Perkele]Alcohol you can bring abroad 1 liter. At the GIG tax free you may buy 12 liters of each kind, Whisky, vodka etc., up to limit of 500 USD.
Why would you bring cigarettes? They are very cheap in Brasil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. This is my 1st trip to Brazil, so I don't know how much things cost. How much do the cigarettes cost? What brands?
Also where is the GIG tax free shop once you come off the plane, or is this shop for departing Rio and heading back home.
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
i would like to try this:
[url]http://www.rioturismoradical.com.br/paragliding.htm[/url]
or this :
[url]www.flex1delta.com.br[/url]
they are not the same as they also take off from different places, the national park tijuca or from sao conrado, praja do pepino.
so if somebody tried it, i have 3 questions:
1 ) which is the best to have better view during the flight ?
2 ) if from na praia do pepino is better ala delta or parapentes ? ( which one gives more adrenalina or it is more nice ? )
3 ) it is better to have as memory photos or dvd ? i guess for sure dvd, but my question is, how, if it is possible, to get out of dvd photos to send later to your friends ?
thanks so much and later the report :)
[quote=lukasek]1 ) they are not the same as they also take off from different places, the national park tijuca or from sao conrado, praja do pepino. (...) which is the best to have better view during the flight?[/quote]
as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(
[quote=lukasek]2 ) if from na praia do pepino is better ala delta or parapentes ? ( which one gives more adrenalina or it is more nice ? ):)[/quote]
i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802[/url]
as to a general assessment of hg safety:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322391&postcount=259[/url]
[quote=lukasek]3 ) it is better to have as memory photos or dvd ? i guess for sure dvd, but my question is, how, if it is possible, to get out of dvd photos to send later to your friends?)[/quote]
can't help with that one... unfortunately or fortunately, i didn't get an pictures or dvd during my flight, as you will certainly understand :)
ea
[quote=el austriaco]as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(
i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802[/url]
as to a general assessment of hg safety:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322391&postcount=259[/url]
can't help with that one... unfortunately or fortunately, i didn't get an pictures or dvd during my flight, as you will certainly understand :)
ea[/quote]just as i was thinking off doing hand gliding on my next trip. your post has put me off (even though i have done a free fall skydiving jump from 12000 feet). might try water rafting and skuba diving instead.
i tried it last year (may 2008) and thought it was one of the coolest things i've ever done.
still, after reading austriaco's story, i realize i got into trying it without really thinking through the consequences if something should go wrong. the idea of suffering a serious injury in brazil (much less dying, yikes) sounds absolutely terrifying now that he mentions it. the only injuries i want in rio are sex injuries, lol! ;) i probably now will skip doing it again for my 2nd trip this coming may, no need to push my luck. . .
what i can tell is that when my turn came up, i waited a very long time before we ran off the platform, at least 15, maybe 20 minutes, until one of the guys working nearby told my pilot the wind was good. the other people before me were luckier, they didn't have to wait as long.
but after reading austriaco's story, i appreciate even more now that my pilot was patient and not a risk-taker.
the wait on the platform is the worst part. absolutely nerve wracking, at least for me. the idea of running off a platform at full speed seems suicidal at first, but i sprinted right off that platform, even my pilot was impressed. that's the key, you need to generate as much forward momentum as possible just in case the wind starts to die down again right after the launch.
it was fun once the long wait was over, but i did notice dead pockets of air where you're dropping instead of gliding so i think austriaco must have run into a dead pocket right from the get go and his pilot never recovered.
that's why the initial run is so important and i suspect after his incident and the others mentioned, they are more attentive to the wind conditions, considering i held up the line behind me for at least 15 minutes. . .
it would be interesting to know if there have been any recent incidents with these hang-gliders. anyone out there know?
[quote=phunluv]the wait on the platform is the worst part. absolutely nerve wracking, at least for me. the idea of running off a platform at full speed seems suicidal at first, but i sprinted right off that platform, even my pilot was impressed. that's the key, you need to generate as much forward momentum as possible just in case the wind starts to die down again right after the launch.[/quote]
my pilot was very cautious and we actually ran out three or four times before we took off. that was the scariest part - running then stopping and looking down from the cliff. however, once airborne, it was a great time. when it came time to land i spied a girl sunbathing topless on the beach below. i asked the pilot how close he could get and he just smiled and said, very close. like sully, he put the glider down smooth and steady and right next to her. my hero.
El Austriaco,
thanks so much for share it or to post it again....you wrote it so good I had the feeling to be you there....
Now I am in a big trouble, if do it or not....
I did bungee jumping from 120 metrs bridge and parashut from 3200 metrs twice in my home town and to see Rio from the sky is something I want to try...
We will see, I will let you know my decision.
Thanks again....
[QUOTE=Phunluv]
It would be interesting to know if there have been any recent incidents with these hang-gliders. Anyone out there know?[/QUOTE]
Read about the one I posted back in 2007. Pretty unbelievable:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=602169&postcount=636[/url]
You can even see a Youtube video of the incident here:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwbPK7sCCtk&feature=related[/url]
Here's another (undated) incident, posted this January on Youtube (Aluno de Asa Delta quase perde a vida):
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78x7gJ842wY&feature=related[/url]
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Just as I was thinking of doing hand gliding on my next trip. Your post has put me off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phunluv]I probably now will skip doing it again for my 2nd trip this coming May, no need to push my luck. . .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek] Now I am in a big trouble, if do it or not.....[/QUOTE]
I guess the most important part is that regardless of whether you do it or not, you are comfortable with your decision, based on your own risk assessment/tolerance and full awareness of all aspects involved. I didn't write this to put people off or even scare them, not at all. As a matter of fact, here's what I wrote in an email a few years ago to another monger:
"You know, another reason I was reluctant to actually write the whole story on this board was precisely that I was concerned that people would just get scared when hearing the story in all its gory details (just like people in Rio that I met in the aftermath of all of this), and I thought that it wouldn't be fair necessarily to deny them something they truly want to do and will most likely very much enjoy. A while ago, there was a guy on this board who said "I was walking on Copa beach in the middle of the night, nothing happened, so it must be safe", and I chided him for his logic. By the same token, I have to say, the fact that I went HG and suffered an accident also doesn't mean that it is necessarily unsafe. What happened to me back in 2004 is purely anectodal and only serves to underscore what CAN happen, not necessarily what will or is even likely to happen. The only thing that I can do is put out as many verifiable facts as I have about Rio HG and let everyone else make an educated choice. But remember what they say about aviation: aviation is very safe, but if things go wrong, they usually go very wrong. I guess my story goes to drive home that point, and in my case, things didn't even go terribly wrong. "
Personally, I am with Phunluv: I wouldn't try HG myself again, maybe just because I feel that I already lucked out once, and it would feel like I'd be pushing my luck again. No worries, I'll find some other crazy stuff to do :)
Oops, I should have checked it first. Never mind...
KT
This is an urban legend. Check out the website:
[url]http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Khun Talung]I got this, might be helpful;
THE RECENT TRAGEDY OF A YOUNG WOMAN BEING KIDNAPPED AND
EVENTUALLY KILLED; AFTER SHE HAD REPEATEDLY GIVEN THE KIDNAPPER A WRONG PIN TO HER ATM CARD. IF SHE KNEW THE METHOD BELOW, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO LET YOU KNOW.
IF YOU SHOULD EVER BE FORCED BY ROBBER TO WITHDRAW MONEY FROM
AN ATM MACHINE, YOU CAN NOTIFY THE POLICE BY ENTERING YOUR PIN # IN REVERSE.
FOR EXAMPLE IF YOUR PIN NUMBER IS 1234 THEN YOU WOULD PUT IN 4321.
THE ATM RECOGNIZES THAT YOUR PIN NUMBER IS BACKWARDS FROM THE
ATM CARD YOU PLACED IN THE MACHINE. THE MACHINE WILL STILL GIVE YOU THE MONEY YOU REQUESTED, BUT UNKNOWN TO THE ROBBER, THE POLICE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISPATCHED TO HELP YOU.
THIS INFORMATION WAS RECENTLY BROADCAST ON FOX TV AND IT
STATES THAT IT IS SELDOM USED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS.
PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG. You can go on snopes to verify.
KT[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Thanks for the info. This is my 1st trip to Brazil, so I don't know how much things cost. How much do the cigarettes cost? What brands?
Also where is the GIG tax free shop once you come off the plane, or is this shop for departing Rio and heading back home.
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
...20 foreign made cigarette packs. If you have a favorite brand, don´t count on the Brazilian version to be the same, bring your favorite from home. Some American cigarette brands and types are not available in Brasil.
[url]http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/principal/Ingles/faq.htm[/url]
There is a huge Duty Free shop in the same area as baggage claim. Liquor is cheaper here than you will pay in Rio stores. It is also cheaper than you will pay on the airline. You can shop here before you exit the customs area. There is also a separate duty free shop in the international departures area.
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]....But remember what they say about aviation: aviation is very safe, but if things go wrong, they usually go very wrong...[/QUOTE]
I totally quote this sentence...
Thanks again for your link...I will think and decide...
[quote=el austriaco]as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(
i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802[/url]
ea[/quote]
el austriaco!! where is part 2 of the story?!! the first part was incredible, i cant wait to read what happened the next day!!
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]...20 foreign made cigarette packs. If you have a favorite brand, don´t count on the Brazilian version to be the same, bring your favorite from home. Some American cigarette brands and types are not available in Brasil.
[url]http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/principal/Ingles/faq.htm[/url]
There is a huge Duty Free shop in the same area as baggage claim. Liquor is cheaper here than you will pay in Rio stores. It is also cheaper than you will pay on the airline. You can shop here before you exit the customs area. There is also a separate duty free shop in the international departures area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help. Will probably get my hennessy and johnnie here then.
'Aviation, to any even greater degree than the sea, is unforgiving of any momentary inattention, incompetence or negligence'.
This under a photo of an old bi-plane, crashed into the only tree within sight.
In regard to hang gliding:
'Don't fly any higher than you want to fall.'
I personally knew two people who died in hang gliders. One forgot to set a pin, and it folded on him when he flared to land. The other misjudged the winds and smashed into a cliff.
KT
I am going to Rio for my 1st time in APril and hang gliding WAS the 1st thing I wanted to do. I'm really not so sure anymore.
When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.
Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Koolkid]When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.
Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Pay at the end. I don't think I've ever paid as it's served, unless I only wanted one drink. This applies to ALL restaurants as well. You may lose count in the termas, as your attention is drawn elsewhere. LOL
[QUOTE=Chingon]Pay at the end. I don't think I've ever paid as it's served, unless I only wanted one drink. This applies to ALL restaurants as well. You may lose count in the termas, as your attention is drawn elsewhere. LOL[/QUOTE]
Centaurus, because they trust and love everyone so much, requires payment (especially from newbie gringos) upfront. You can tell them you are not sure you want a girl and they will charge you R$120 (instead of R$400). However, should you decide to take a girl they will insist that you pay the remainder (R$280) right then. They are nice enough to trust that you will pay for your drinks and any food when you leave (but will most likely pad the bill -- so ask for a printout).
Oh, and do not forget to tip everyone in sight. In reality, they will not let you forget.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.
Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Usually the bill is paid when you are ready to leave and you ask for "a conta," the bill. Some places will give you the complete accounting with little slips of paper attached. It is acceptable and a good idea to study this accounting BEFORE you pay. Some smaller bars will collect when they deliver your drink. Some vary between the two practices depending on how crowded the bar is.
Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]
Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldn't be so sure. Most bars on Av. Atlantica will try to slip something extra on your bill.
Most notorious one is Balcony. They have couple of morons who keep doing that all the time.
Normal bars do not have this kind of practise.
Also many bars have a comanda, a card where they mark what you have consumed and then you'll pay when leaving.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco].....Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.[/QUOTE]
But it is only fucking typical brazilian that everytime.....occasionaly....they make mistakes....you ALWAYS are gonna to pay more, NEVER less....yes it is human and coincidentally....yes...for sure.... LOL
[QUOTE=Lukasek]But it is only fucking typical brazilian that everytime.....occasionaly....they make mistakes....you ALWAYS are gonna to pay more, NEVER less....yes it is human and coincidentally....yes...for sure.... LOL[/QUOTE]
To tell you the truth, I am with Poucolouco on this. Most of the time, any errors are in their favor, but I have come across situations were it was actually less, simply because they are so bad at math. BTW, the same happens here in Mexico, where I've been living for six years now: most waiters are just so bad at calculating in their head, they just do make a lot of mistakes. And then of course, there are clearly places where they routinely try to rip you off, no doubt about it. In all the places commonly frequented by mongers along Av. Atlantica, I have only had 2 or 3 problems with this over the years, during hundreds of visits to these establishments. Honestly, it's really not very common in my personal experience.
Of course, if someone is getting hammered out of his mind, the chances of getting ripped off increase dramatically. Since paying as you go along is not common, I suggest asking the waiter for a piece of paper where you can tick off drinks. I repeat: YOU keep track of your drinks for your own sake, not THEM. Sends a message that you're not a fool, too :)
EA
From the bill of minibar at Transamerica Hotel in Curitiba, from the 3 beers instead of 2 at Lagoa da coincecao in Floripa, even this afternoon at Ipanema, the bill of chair and drinks at the beach.....I have many examples from my experience and even more, if you start to ask to other turists....I am here almost 7 weeks, not 7 days....and everytime the errors were in their favor....never found a place as Brazil, where everybody has its dick out waiting to put it inside your ass....but obviously it is human, coincidentally that brazilians has problem with math....overwise I am sure their errors were in my favour, is not it ?
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/05/lkl.brazil.custody/index.html[/url]
[quote]CNN) -- An 8-year-old American boy is caught in the middle of an ugly custody battle so high profile that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is using her clout to try to bring the boy home.
David Goldman's legal battle to gain custody of his son has drawn the attention of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
In 2004, David Goldman dropped off his wife, Bruna, and then-4-year-old son, Sean, at the airport for a two-week vacation in Brazil. Shortly after she arrived in her native country, Bruna told David she wanted a divorce and planned to stay in Brazil with their son.
Bruna later remarried and got pregnant, but she died while giving birth last summer. Goldman thought he was getting his son back, but a Brazilian family court judge granted custody of Sean to Bruna's new husband.
Goldman talked with CNN's Larry King about the international legal battle he is waging to gain custody of his son. The following is an edited version of the interview.
Larry King: What caused the breakup of the marriage?
David Goldman: I don't know. Apparently, she decided she wanted to live in Brazil, where she said she had more friends and more family and where she was known.
King: Did you feel happily married?
Goldman: Yes, I thought we were happily married.
King: So this was a call out of the blue?
Goldman: I was completely blindsided and crushed.
King: What did you do then?
Goldman: Well, I (got) a phone call. My mom tracked it down as being Father's Day, about three days after they arrived. The first call was they got there safe, everything was OK. Then, I got a phone call and a very serious voice -- a voice they didn't recognize, really, as being, you know, it was out of her normal tone.
Bruna says, "David, we need to talk. You're a great guy. You're a wonderful father, but our love affair is ended, is over. I've decided I want to live in Brazil and you need to come down to Brazil immediately and sign 10 pages of papers with my attorney." There was a list of demands on these papers. One was giving her full custody. Another was to never go to the courts to file any claims of kidnapping or criminal charges.
King: Did you get to talk to your son?
Goldman: I got to talk to my son. In fact, I got to speak with all of them in the beginning, while they were still trying to get me to go down there and be trapped in this custody battle. At that point, I wasn't the enemy until I didn't meet her demands and I did go to the courts.
King: Well, when you went (to Brazil), who did you see? What did you do?
Goldman: I went to the courts. I went to every ruling on every court proceeding and with the guise that they would honor the Hague Treaty and return (my) son. And every time, it just got worse and worse.
In the first instance, they kept Sean for over a year before they made this ruling. And then they said, 'Well, you know, yes, he was taken unlawfully and he should have been returned, but now he's settled with the mother. These are Brazilian judges who have admitted that he's been held unlawfully and wrongfully.
King: How did you hear she died?
Goldman: I have friends who, kind of, have an ear to the ground in Brazil, and there were some articles that came out in some local Brazilian newspapers and they did some on the Internet and said she'd passed away.
King: Did you try then to get the child back legally?
Goldman: Yes. As soon as I was notified, I called both counsel in Brazil and in the U.S., and they said it should be over. You know, we have stacks of court records and all these treaties and it's always been about Bruna and David, Bruna and David. There's no more Bruna. By all matters of law, international and national and Brazilian law, no one has a legal claim of custody but the living, biological parent. Go down to Brazil and bring your son home.
King: What happened in court?
Goldman: In this past court, we finally got a visitation ruling. But when I went down the first time to bring my son home, we find out that this man doesn't file custody, but he files to remove my name from a Brazilian birth certificate that they had issued for my son, who was born in Red Bank, New Jersey. And with that, they gave him a provisionary guardianship -- a provisionary.
King: Obviously, he wanted the boy?
Goldman: Obviously.
King: When you were (with him?
Goldman: Oh, he was -- I just saw him this last February for the first time.
King: At eight years old, did he ask you why he's not with you?
Goldman: He asked why I haven't come to see him in all this time. And that was very, very painful -- and the anguish on his face when he asked me that question. And I didn't want to tell him that the situation that I'm not allowed -- that they weren't allowing me, they're holding him. So I just told him that I had been there many times with his grandmother, with his grandfather, with his cousins, with family friends to see him, sometimes staying for up to two weeks and the courts -- it was difficult.
King: How long did you have with him?
Goldman: I saw him for two days a total of about six hours.
King: How did you say goodbye?
Goldman: It was very, very difficult. I just kept telling him the whole time how much I love him, how much I miss him.
King: Did you tell him you were going to try to get him back?
Goldman: No. I told him I'm going to always try to be with him. I don't want him to be put in any type of awkward situation or uncomfortable situation. I just told him I love him, I miss him and everyone at home loves him. And he remembers things at home. We spoke English.
King: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has raised the Goldman case with the Brazilian government. Anything you'd say to her?
Goldman: I'm just -- I'm so grateful and thankful that -- that she's helping me and she knows what's right and sees what's right and she cares about children and parents' rights to be with their own flesh and blood[/quote]
What the fucking company is this ?
I went right now to airport to change my return date, it is 13:10 and....the office was closed, cause they open when they have a flight !!!
So in one city of more than 12 million of inhabitants, the only office of national british airline is in airport and open just few hours per day ????
Ok next time I will call for sure, but who could imagine thing like this ?
Wellcome to Brazil one more time I guess.....
P.S. the good thing, I stop a couple of taxis in the street and I was able to negotiate from copa to galeao and back to copa for only 50 reais LOL and it seems to me a real good price :)
P.S.S. I know I can rebook the flight from one agency travel here in copa, but they yesterday told me, they cannot print me the new ticket and I will have to pay it once at airport, so to make long short I do not trust this way too much and by internet, I tried too, did not work.
Reservations in Brazil +55 11 4004 4440
Good Luck Amico
Question: Are the flights usually full go to Brazil from the US in early December?
I ask b/c I want to go back there during that time but I usually go during May or June.
Don't blame the britons or the brazilians, in my experience it is quite normal that airway companies offices at airport are only open at time of their flights, not only in this country but in many airports around the world.
Have you tried to make changes through their website ?
As far as printed ticket, do you really need this ?
It is years already I don't travel with a printed ticket.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]What the fucking company is this ?
I went right now to airport to change my return date, it is 13:10 and....the office was closed, cause they open when they have a flight !!!
So in one city of more than 12 million of inhabitants, the only office of national british airline is in airport and open just few hours per day ????
Ok next time I will call for sure, but who could imagine thing like this ?
Wellcome to Brazil one more time I guess.....
P.S. the good thing, I stop a couple of taxis in the street and I was able to negotiate from copa to galeao and back to copa for only 50 reais LOL and it seems to me a real good price :)
P.S.S. I know I can rebook the flight from one agency travel here in copa, but they yesterday told me, they cannot print me the new ticket and I will have to pay it once at airport, so to make long short I do not trust this way too much and by internet, I tried too, did not work.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sky Boy]Question: Are the flights usually full go to Brazil from the US in early December?[/QUOTE]
[b]YES!!! VERY FULL!!!![/b]
Many Brazilians living in the US make reservations for Christmas travel to Brazil starting in August and September! This year, 2009, may be slightly different due to the recession/depression that is making air travel unaffordable to many.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Don't blame the britons or the brazilians, in my experience it is quite normal that airway companies offices at airport are only open at time of their flights, not only in this country but in many airports around the world.
Have you tried to make changes through their website ?
As far as printed ticket, do you really need this ?
It is years already I don't travel with a printed ticket.[/QUOTE]
Thanks...but neither in far east Russia I had the need of printed ticket and I tried their website immediately, but it wrote I have to go to travel agency, I do not know why.
If you never been to Recife, its another spot to go to in Brasil.
Check out the bamboo bar.
Lots of GDP's, beach & weather is great.
They have a disco where some GDP's go for the night.
See photos & video from the website.
You can see a few GDP's, hotel, & area
A nice place to get away from Rio, if you want to see another side of Brazil.
[url]http://www.bamboobar.net/index_en.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Madd Love]If you never been to Recife, its another spot to go to in Brasil.
Check out the bamboo bar.
Lots of GDP's, beach & weather is great.
They have a disco where some GDP's go for the night.
See photos & video from the website.
You can see a few GDP's, hotel, & area
A nice place to get away from Rio, if you want to see another side of Brazil.
[url]http://www.bamboobar.net/index_en.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
I am not sure why ML is pushing Bamboo, but it is not exactly what ML is saying it is.
Bamboo is a bar/restaurant with a small disco in the basement. There is no stripping or anything like that. Simply GDPs who hang out and will go with a guy if he wants to for the right price. It is located near a busy square but there is little foot traffic along the street it is on. It is owned by a German guy.
The area in which it is located is undergoing regentrification. Several nearby hotels have been torn down in recent years and new expensive condos are going up in their places. Another bar called Chakatak, which is across the street from Bamboo, is the last building standing out of 4 or 5 on the block. There used to be lots of GDPs hanging out on the beach and the square (Praca de Boa Viagem) but the loss of the hotels has meant the loss of sex tourists so the GDPs are moving to other pastures. Bamboo and Chakatak are no longer choice places to monger.
Sometime last year, there was a killing at Bamboo. A co-owner (or manager) stabbed a biligerent patron. (That is the story I heard.) Patronize it at your own risk.
[QUOTE=George90]I am not sure why ML is pushing Bamboo, but it is not exactly what ML is saying it is.
Bamboo is a bar/restaurant with a small disco in the basement. There is no stripping or anything like that. Simply GDPs who hang out and will go with a guy if he wants to for the right price. It is located near a busy square but there is little foot traffic along the street it is on. It is owned by a German guy.
The area in which it is located is undergoing regentrification. Several nearby hotels have been torn down in recent years and new expensive condos are going up in their places. Another bar called Chakatak, which is across the street from Bamboo, is the last building standing out of 4 or 5 on the block. There used to be lots of GDPs hanging out on the beach and the square (Praca de Boa Viagem) but the loss of the hotels has meant the loss of sex tourists so the GDPs are moving to other pastures. Bamboo and Chakatak are no longer choice places to monger.
Sometime last year, there was a killing at Bamboo. A co-owner (or manager) stabbed a biligerent patron. (That is the story I heard.) Patronize it at your own risk.[/QUOTE]
Points above well taken,
I was just offering information for different side of Brazil.
I personally think Rio & Sao Paulo are more dangerous than Recife.
Crime is much higher there on a comparison level.
Each to his own.
And I would recommend going to the Bamboo bar in Recife, for a different side of Brazil, as far as women, people, and location.
Last year it was reported that Recife was the most dangerous city in Brazil.
"While Rio de Janeiro's bloody drug war makes international headlines, this balmy city of 1.5 million has a homicide rate of 90.9 per 100,000 — more than twice as deadly as Rio, according to the Latin American Technological Network's Map of Violence." Maybe things have gotten better.
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/25/america/LA-FEA-GEN-Brazil-Killings-in-Recife.php[/url]
[quote=madd love]points above well taken,
i was just offering information for different side of brazil.
[b]i personally think rio & sao paulo are more dangerous than recife.
crime is much higher there on a comparison level.[/b]
each to his own.
and i would recommend going to the bamboo bar in recife, for a different side of brazil, as far as women, people, and location.[/quote]
exactly what chingon says!!!
in 2007, recife was the murder capital of brazil. i did not hear that things changed much in 2008. i know people in recife. the deal is that the tourist areas close to the beaches are well patroled by police and the 'riffraff' are kept well at bay. but the interior parts of recife, far from the beaches, are described as an almost lawless area. muggings, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url], and murders take place without much police investigation. i am told that part of it is the doing of wannabee drug dealers and nascient gangs. it is not quite as bad as the favelas of rio in absolute numbers, but on a per capita basis, the violent crime rate is the tops in brazil.
[quote=george90]exactly what chingon says!!!
in 2007, recife was the murder capital of brazil. i did not hear that things changed much in 2008. i know people in recife. the deal is that the tourist areas close to the beaches are well patroled by police and the 'riffraff' are kept well at bay. but the interior parts of recife, far from the beaches, are described as an almost lawless area. muggings, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url], and murders take place without much police investigation. i am told that part of it is the doing of wannabee drug dealers and nascient gangs. it is not quite as bad as the favelas of rio in absolute numbers, but on a per capita basis, the violent crime rate is the tops in brazil.[/quote]
i am not saying you are wrong about high crime in recife, but rio has the leading crime rate. & if a monger can monger in rio, a monger can go to recife.
the state of rio de janeiro despite a 4% decrease in the number of violent deaths kept its title as murder champion followed by pernambuco state in the brazilian northeast.
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7285/54/[/url]
rio state, which includes the city of rio de janeiro and outlying areas, is the country's deadliest, with a homicide rate in 2005 of about 62 for every 100,000 residents. the murder rate in the united states was 5.6 per 100,000 people that year.
[url]http://people.eku.edu/davisb/geo100/riocrime.html[/url]
geographically, as one might expect, the fear of street crimes is highest in the two mega-cities, rio de janeiro and são paulo and also the northeastern city of recife.
[url]http://www.zonalatina.com/zldata194.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.coha.org/new_press_releases/new_press_releases_2004/04.31_brazil%20prison%20riot.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2006/09/25/brazil_murder_rate_similar_to_war_zone_data_shows/[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/crime_in_brazil[/url]
[QUOTE=Madd Love]I am not saying you are wrong about high crime in Recife, but Rio has the leading crime rate. & if a monger can monger in Rio, a monger can go to Recife.
The state of Rio de Janeiro despite a 4% decrease in the number of violent deaths kept its title as murder champion followed by Pernambuco state in the Brazilian northeast.
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7285/54/[/url]
Rio state, which includes the city of Rio de Janeiro and outlying areas, is the country's deadliest, with a homicide rate in 2005 of about 62 for every 100,000 residents. The murder rate in the United States was 5.6 per 100,000 people that year.
[url]http://people.eku.edu/davisb/Geo100/riocrime.html[/url]
Geographically, as one might expect, the fear of street crimes is highest in the two mega-cities, Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo and also the northeastern city of Recife.
[url]http://www.zonalatina.com/Zldata194.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.coha.org/NEW_PRESS_RELEASES/New_Press_Releases_2004/04.31_Brazil%20Prison%20Riot.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2006/09/25/brazil_murder_rate_similar_to_war_zone_data_shows/[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil[/url][/QUOTE]ML only the wikipedia that you sited is current. Everything else is from 2001 to 2007.
[QUOTE=Chingon]ML only the wikipedia that you sited is current. Everything else is from 2001 to 2007.[/QUOTE]
Why are you worried about others, that might want to know about Recife?
[QUOTE=Madd Love]Why are you worried about others, that might want to know about Recife?[/QUOTE]To quote Alfred E. Neuman, "What me, worry?" (insert gap tooth smile here)
You site old sources in support of your position. Going to Recife, works for you. COOL! But stating that it is safer than Copa, in spite of current reports to the contrary, I find that misleading, IMHO. I clear remember OGlobo reporting last year, that Recife was more dangerous then Rio, based on statistics from the previous year. Unknown yet, if Rio will be #1 again this year. Rio's criminals are doing there best to regain that title. (You see all the latest crime reports?) :D
A better question ML, is why are YOU misleading mongers?
Men,
I live in the Washington DC area and I have noticed that a lot of "ladies" that I use to know in Brazil have been moving to the area. I know that a couple married guys in the area lately. It is pretty cool, I was in the Mall today and ran into a good friend of mine from Brazil that I "know" in the Biblical sense. She told me about 4 other girls that live in the Area. I am going to get together with them next week. I will try and find my old pictures of the ladies and post them.
Brazil is the gift that keeps on giving!
[QUOTE=Hulk]Most of the Copacabana beachfront restaurants are pretty bad. The only one that I've found to be consistently good is Don Camilo's. It's the only place in Rio that I've found that has good fried calamari. Granted, this is not the most refined seafood around, but sometimes I just get a craving for it and this is the place to go for for fried calamari in Rio. All the other dishes I've tried at Don Camilo's have also been well prepared.[/QUOTE]
Don Camilo was always my favorite restaurant, great food, great atmosphere and a professional staff that I knew very well. Inside they had strolling music at night, very romantic, I always brought my dates here.
This last time in Rio I was with a very nice girl, we went to Za Za Bistro in Ipanema. Upstairs is a very romantic setting if this is what you need. You take your shoes off, sit on the floor with big pillows, candles all over the place, Asian fusion food which was very good. This place was a hit, put my girl in the right mood, I recommend it for a date.
I also went to a place called Praia Vermelha in Flamengo, it is a restaurant basically on the Military grounds and overlooks Sugar Loaf. They have live music going on, it is right on the beach and with that view of Sugar Loaf provides another romantic setting if this is what you're looking for. Food is good, I saw no tourists there except me, I recommend it for a date.
[QUOTE=Watchman4400]Men,
I live in the Washington DC area and I have noticed that a lot of "ladies" that I use to know in Brazil have been moving to the area. I know that a couple married guys in the area lately. It is pretty cool, I was in the Mall today and ran into a good friend of mine from Brazil that I "know" in the Biblical sense. She told me about 4 other girls that live in the Area. I am going to get together with them next week. I will try and find my old pictures of the ladies and post them.
Brazil is the gift that keeps on giving![/QUOTE]
You should see the large amount of MP/Help girls in Chicago!!! I am sure they blow the population in DC right out of the water!!
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Don Camilo was always my favorite restaurant[/QUOTE]
On my list too - haven´t tried it recently.
btw is there a forum that discusses sex? ;) ;)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]
btw is there a forum that discusses sex? ;) ;)[/QUOTE]
There used to be a section called Rio De Janeiro reports but seems like it's morphed into a Rio Restaurant review section. Everybody must be getting old, sounds like they rather eat than screw.
Bravo,
I have no arguments with you on this one. I have a friend that is a Chicago Police officer. The interesting thing about the girls in Chicago is 4 of them are married to Chicago Police officers! One of them was shockingly arrested in a prostitution stink in Chicago!
[QUOTE=Bravo]You should see the large amount of MP/Help girls in Chicago!!! I am sure they blow the population in DC right out of the water!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chingon]To quote Alfred E. Neuman, "What me, worry?" (insert gap tooth smile here)
You site old sources in support of your position. Going to Recife, works for you. COOL! But stating that it is safer than Copa, in spite of current reports to the contrary, I find that misleading, IMHO. I clear remember OGlobo reporting last year, that Recife was more dangerous then Rio, based on statistics from the previous year. Unknown yet, if Rio will be #1 again this year. Rio's criminals are doing there best to regain that title. (You see all the latest crime reports?) :D
A better question ML, is why are YOU misleading mongers?[/QUOTE]
All I said was its a different scene and I did not say it was safer.
Recife does has crime, as I have said. Rio has crime too.
What's your point?
I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.
[QUOTE=Delecti]I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.[/QUOTE]
I've taken the metro on several occasions between 10:00 PM and midnight and never had a problem. Walking from 4X4 to the Uruguiana station also wasn't such a big deal, it's not very far, three blocks or something like that, and even late at night, there are tons of people in the street, if you're concerned about that. If you are farther away from a metro station in Centro, like, say, Praca Mauá, I would take a cab rather than walk through the dark side streets. Even in that case, take the cab just to the metro station to save money rather than taking the cab all the way to Copacabana.
Hope this helps, EA
[QUOTE=Delecti]I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.[/QUOTE]
Its not bad at all IMO, but I am always aware of my surroundings. The area around there looks like a flea market of some sort, never felt unsafe.
The metro is also very easy to use. Didn't have a problem my first time.
[QUOTE=Madd Love]All I said was its a different scene and I did not say it was safer.
Recife does has crime, as I have said. Rio has crime too.
What's your point?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Madd Love]I personally think Rio & Sao Paulo are more dangerous than Recife.
Crime is much higher there on a comparison level.[/QUOTE]Anyone have a fork? Time to put this to rest. I agree to disagree.
I am posting this in the General Info area, I hope that is OK with everyone. I posted my other experiences in the Rio Reports section because the information is specific to Rio.
Had a great time last night at Modern Sound on Rua Barata Ribeiro, 502 – D, Copacabana.
[url]http://www.modernsound.com.br/ingles/bistro.asp[/url]
The food and drinks were good and fairly priced. The live jazz music performed by the guys below was awesome.
GENTE FINA E OUTRAS COISAS: Ronaldo do Bandolim (shavings), Zé Carlos Bigorna (flutes and sax), Fernando Coelho (guitar), Bebeto Castilho (Eletrict Bass), Jovi Joviniano (percussion).
Wednesday, from 5:00 p.m.to 9:00 p.m.
Nice place to bring a date or go by yourself to kick back and relax.
One thing that was a little strange -- they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.
BTW, I love nothing better than recommending business that do it right. I have bought CDs and DVDs at Modern Sound for many years. They have a good selection, knowledgeable helpful staff and fair prices.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I am posting this in the General Info area, I hope that is OK with everyone. I posted my other experiences in the Rio Reports section because the information is specific to Rio.
Had a great time last night at Modern Sound on Rua Barata Ribeiro, 502 – D, Copacabana.
[url]http://www.modernsound.com.br/ingles/bistro.asp[/url]
The food and drinks were good and fairly priced. The live jazz music performed by the guys below was awesome.
GENTE FINA E OUTRAS COISAS: Ronaldo do Bandolim (shavings), Zé Carlos Bigorna (flutes and sax), Fernando Coelho (guitar), Bebeto Castilho (Eletrict Bass), Jovi Joviniano (percussion).
Wednesday, from 5:00 p.m.to 9:00 p.m.
Nice place to bring a date or go by yourself to kick back and relax.
One thing that was a little strange -- they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.
BTW, I love nothing better than recommending business that do it right. I have bought CDs and DVDs at Modern Sound for many years. They have a good selection, knowledgeable helpful staff and fair prices.[/QUOTE]I got laid at Modern Sound about a year ago. Well, not AT Modern Sound but I met a girl at MS at one of those Jazz evenings that led to dinner that led to dancing that led to more drinking that led to sex. But yes - there are some gooooood quality local girls that frequent the place. But you had better be able to speak a little Portuguese or they will ignore you despite the fact that most of them speak perfect English.
[QUOTE=Chingon]Anyone have a fork? Time to put this to rest. I agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]
Amigo again?
I still don't see your point
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.[/QUOTE]
That is true. When businesses make sales using credit cards, they send the credits to the credit card company immediately, but the businesses are NOT sent a check immediately. The credit card company will accumulate a month's worth of charges and send one check at the end of the month to the business. It is analogous to credit card holders making only one payment a month to the credit card company. If a business makes a sale just after the cut-off date, it may very be 45 days later when the check containing the proceeeds of that sale reaches the business.
[QUOTE=George90]That is true. When businesses make sales using credit cards, they send the credits to the credit card company immediately, but the businesses are NOT sent a check immediately. The credit card company will accumulate a month's worth of charges and send one check at the end of the month to the business. It is analogous to credit card holders making only one payment a month to the credit card company. If a business makes a sale just after the cut-off date, it may very be 45 days later when the check containing the proceeeds of that sale reaches the business.[/QUOTE]
Unless it is different here in Brazil, which I doubt it is, money that is charged in bars and restaurants get to the restaurant within 72 hours. I know this because I run restaurants. My bet is the true reason they don't want to add the service fee into the bill is because the restaurant has to pay the Visa/Mastercard 3 or 4% surcharge on not only the bill but on the service if it charged to a restaurant. But this is the story they tell there waitstaff so people buy it. I know of restaurant chains in NY that will subtract out the credit card fees on servers tips to recoop some of the money. To me highly unethical. In the US, Amex's fees are even a higher percentage which is why you can't use it in a lot of foreign countries....
[QUOTE=Lancer520]Unless it is different here in Brazil, which I doubt it is, money that is charged in bars and restaurants get to the restaurant within 72 hours. I know this because I run restaurants. My bet is the true reason they don't want to add the service fee into the bill is because the restaurant has to pay the Visa/Mastercard 3 or 4% surcharge on not only the bill but on the service if it charged to a restaurant. But this is the story they tell there waitstaff so people buy it. I know of restaurant chains in NY that will subtract out the credit card fees on servers tips to recoop some of the money. To me highly unethical. In the US, Amex's fees are even a higher percentage which is why you can't use it in a lot of foreign countries....[/QUOTE]
The fees angle is a good one.
[QUOTE=George90]The fees angle is a good one.[/QUOTE]
You just hit on a topic I'm very familiar with in the states. The higher the volume in CC sales you do, the lower your percentage fees with Visa/MC. For example a restaurant like say TGI Friday's might only pay 2.2% fees because there entire deal is negotiated together where Mom and Pop restaurant could pay almost 5% in CC transactions fees. It sucks but Visa, MC, AMEX have a monopoly. Poor Discover can't even compete with the big boys.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.[/QUOTE]
At least in the US, tips put on credit cards go into the waitperson's paycheck---AND ARE TAXED. Cash tips, however, can be pocketed and avoid the tax man (although the IRS is wise to this and closely watches people in tip-rich jobs.) I know of one restaurant (unsurprisingly a German one) that included a request in the tip envelope to pay all tips in cash.
[QUOTE=One Eyed Man]At least in the US, tips put on credit cards go into the waitperson's paycheck---AND ARE TAXED. Cash tips, however, can be pocketed and avoid the tax man (although the IRS is wise to this and closely watches people in tip-rich jobs.) I know of one restaurant (unsurprisingly a German one) that included a request in the tip envelope to pay all tips in cash.[/QUOTE]
In the US, some restaurants are going to systems where the servers get all of there money in a paycheck at the end of the week. Some restaurants do what you are saying and let them keep there cash tips and pay there CC tips to them in the form of a paycheck. However, 90% of restaurants still pay all the tips both cash and credit card to them at the end of the night. Mr IRS has become very wise to the hiding of server tips. If they are audited now a days, the IRS looks at there gross sales for let's say the year, finds out what percentages they tip out to other support staff(bartenders, bussers, food runners, etc) then uses an average and figures out what amount of taxes they should be paying. So if a server did $500,000 in sales for the year and the IRS assume an average of 15% tips that would leave $75,000 in tips. If the restaurant requires the server to pay out 5% in tip out to the support staff, then the IRS assumes they made aprox. $50,000. My point being, in the old days you could, but now you can't hide the cash tips from the taxman. Totally off the board subject but maybe some info you mongers didn't know.
I hope this information helps someone.
I am lucky in that I do not have to be anywhere at any certain time. As a result, I often pay airline change fees. Recently I made a change to my travel from Rio to the US. In addition to the outrageous $250 change fee three separate US phone agents wanted to charge me over $350 because of a fare increase.
Wrong answer. The right answer is if the same class of service is available there is no additional charge, just the change fee. Finally got through to a supervisor who apologized and made the change.
I know there are a lot of airline employees who frequent this site, but as a frequent flier I will tell you that lately more times than not, airline employees on the ground get it wrong. Those in the air usually are great.
Does anyone know how to set the Orkut scraps to private, so that your own friends can not see other people's messages? I have seen some girls pages where you can enter their scraps, but you cant read what anyone else has written. I need this function because i keep getting busted by my main girl when all these GDPS leave these sexy scraps. THX fellas
[QUOTE=Bravo]Does anyone know how to set the Orkut scraps to private, so that your own friends can not see other people's messages? I have seen some girls pages where you can enter their scraps, but you cant read what anyone else has written. I need this function because i keep getting busted by my main girl when all these GDPS leave these sexy scraps. THX fellas[/QUOTE]
Damn.........you gotta be a little more smooth with Orkut. A quick suggestion, you might want to delete your actual account and start over. Have one for everyone, and then one for GDP's. Many a mongerer has got caught this same way, and I'm speaking from personal experience.
Once logged in, from your home screen, click on scrap under the profile link. Next, on the opposite side of the frame where it shows how many scraps you actually have, click on the change settings link. From there go to the bottom of the screen, and you are given 3 options for what you were asking.
only my friends
friends of friends
everyone
Only options available.....................good luck
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Damn.........you gotta be a little more smooth with Orkut. A quick suggestion, you might want to delete your actual account and start over. Have one for everyone, and then one for GDP's. Many a mongerer has got caught this same way, and I'm speaking from personal experience.
Once logged in, from your home screen, click on scrap under the profile link. Next, on the opposite side of the frame where it shows how many scraps you actually have, click on the change settings link. From there go to the bottom of the screen, and you are given 3 options for what you were asking.
only my friends
friends of friends
everyone
Only options available.....................good luck
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the help, but this wasnt what I was talking about. In orkut, you have the ability to set your scraps, so that even your own friends can not read anything in your scrap book that is over 12 hours old. I know two GDPS who have thier Orkut set up this way. (Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach them to ask how they set it up)
Checkout the new ORKUT
[url]http://www.orkutsexy.com.br/[/url]
Super deal if you are active duty military. I called the Marriot in Rio and reserved 2 days for a total of $117. Now if I can only get my chicks to the room.
[url]http://www.marriott.com/specials/govtmil/default.mi[/url]
Scroll down to "Leisure travel & Special offers"
[url]http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,52639,00.html[/url]
[url]http://www.aa.com/aa/viewPromotionDetails.do?itemDescriptor=PromotionContent&fileName=A0309_EliteDouble.xml&type=AAdvantageSpecialOffers&anchorLocation=Navigation+Menu&url=A0309_EliteDouble.xml&_locale=en_US&repositoryName=PromotionContentRepository&repositoryId=16119429[/url]
Here are two links from United and American for Double Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) for those who plan to fly in the near future.
What American men think of American woman & foreign woman.
Here is a brief extrapolation of the article.
Statement #1
"Lots of American women b*tch about American men dating foreigners. You want to know why? Because YOU SUCK. You are a pain in the ass. Period. Foreign women are easy to deal with. Having dated Europeans and Latina's, they are infinitely easier to deal with than American women. They just accept you for being a man. I hear lots of women say foreign women are pushovers - its the furthest thing from the truth"
Statement #2
"After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women."
I just want to know if you fellas feel the same about American woman.
See the complete article here
[url]http://www.nomarriage.com/fd.html[/url]
Here is another stat:
Not sure how true it is...
Why is this case? American men who marry American woman have a divorce rate of 60% to 80 %. American men who marry foreign woman have a divorce rate of 20%
[QUOTE=Madd Love]I just want to know if you fellas feel the same about American woman.[/QUOTE]
Ditto. But there are always exceptions.
But why are you posting this here? This thread is about Brazil. There is another thread that deals with American women.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Ditto. But there are always exceptions.
But why are you posting this here? This thread is about Brazil. There is another thread that deals with American women.[/QUOTE]
Sorry Lorenzo,
Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.
Thanx fellow monglers
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.
Thanx fellow monglers[/QUOTE]
I'll be there in may and don't speak any portuguese lol so pm me if you want to meet up and hit the termas.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem.[/QUOTE]
Bubba's Guide (2007). Everything you need to know, and then some:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565336&postcount=46[/url]
Sperto's Guide to Casas De Massagem And Termas In Centro, R$ 10-85. Updated March 2008!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=743611&postcount=6005[/url]
Rio Maps:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=572217&postcount=61[/url]
Rio Metro (unfortunately, site only seems to be available in Portuguese right now):
[url]http://www.metrorio.com.br/[/url]
Report of Distinctions:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2008[/url]
If you have any questions after going through all of this, just ask :)
Hope this helps,
EA
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.
Thanx fellow monglers[/QUOTE]
First off just relax. You are now divorced and the worst is over! Now that you have made Rio your playground you have turned a 180 and now have it made! Trust me, if you just chill out and keep coming back your life will be much better. Praise God for what he has done for you!
Where are you staying? You should get an apartment. Check the apartment thread for good sites.
Go to Luomo.com.br to get directions to this therma.
Also, hang out at Meia Pataca and visit Help Disco, if it is still open, to meet girls. But trust me, meeting girls will be the least of your worries.
Like most of us you will actually have to fight them off in RIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since Porto is no problem you can actually hang out in the lower cost centro therma/casas and pull a sweetie.
But then again Copacabana is the place to stay and you always want one girl there to showcase!
Trust me, this is so much fun!!!!!!!!!!
TJ
[QUOTE=David68]Super deal if you are active duty military. I called the Marriot in Rio and reserved 2 days for a total of $117. Now if I can only get my chicks to the room.
[url]http://www.marriott.com/specials/govtmil/default.mi[/url]
Scroll down to "Leisure travel & Special offers"[/QUOTE
I'm gonna to try this. I actually had the info for using the employee discount from a friend, from a couple of years ago. He's always insisted that I use his discount, but never thought about saying at the Rio Marriott before.
I have this sweet piece who's a nurse, and wants to spend a week with me. Why not take here to the Marriott (registered), and do my other stuff on the side in Centro/VM/Termas.
ryjer
Last Novemeber I posted about my then Brazilian apartment guy and how he told a girl I had shown him her pictures. In reality, he accidently saw 2 pictures of her when I let him look at a CD with pictures of his apartment he had rented me last time. He fast forwarded before I could snatch the DVD player from him.
Anyway, some guys on here began chiming in about how Brazilians probably consider me lower on the social scale (haha), the usual strange banter you get on this forum at times.
Now I found out that during Carnaval this guy approached this same girl in Mabs with some white guys and they claimed they had seen her pictures on the internet and knew ME (they gave my real name, which is odd given we use screen names on here, plus I have not posted her pictures anyway).
SHe said she knew it was BS.
Here is the proof:
Later this guy tried to extort money from her claiming he had set up a date for her (I am not sure whether she meant the same white guys or not). I think he is implying that he knows where the pictures are on the internet and will tell her family.
She was really angry and said she now believes everything I said about the pictures in the beginning. Plus she said this apartment guy is the typical carioca--he comes down from the favela and makes his living off others (she said this).
So much for the high lifestyle in Rio!
So in the end most of my "gringo" observations of the situation were correct and those who made wild claims and wrote long posts about the Brazilian social order were well off track. In the end the cream always rises to top. This so-called "high class" Brazilian proved his true worth and even the girl criticized him, not me.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Last Novemeber I posted about my then Brazilian apartment guy and how he told a girl I had shown him her pictures. In reality, he accidently saw 2 pictures of her when I let him look at a CD with pictures of his apartment he had rented me last time. He fast forwarded before I could snatch the DVD player from him.
Anyway, some guys on here began chiming in about how Brazilians probably consider me lower on the social scale (haha), the usual strange banter you get on this forum at times.
Now I found out that during Carnaval this guy approached this same girl in Mabs with some white guys and they claimed they had seen her pictures on the internet and knew ME (they gave my real name, which is odd given we use screen names on here, plus I have not posted her pictures anyway).
SHe said she knew it was BS.
Here is the proof:
Later this guy tried to extort money from her claiming he had set up a date for her (I am not sure whether she meant the same white guys or not). I think he is implying that he knows where the pictures are on the internet and will tell her family.
She was really angry and said she now believes everything I said about the pictures in the beginning. Plus she said this apartment guy is the typical carioca--he comes down from the favela and makes his living off others (she said this).
So much for the high lifestyle in Rio!
So in the end most of my "gringo" observations of the situation were correct and those who made wild claims and wrote long posts about the Brazilian social order were well off track. In the end the cream always rises to top. This so-called "high class" Brazilian proved his true worth and even the girl criticized him, not me.
TJ[/QUOTE]
TJ:
One question: is this just a coincedence that the guy knows the girls family? Seems kinda random if they are not from the same neighborhood.
And even if he did tell her family, she could just denie it as say, "he's made becuase I wouldn't date him so he is spreading lies about me".
All-in-all, I think a lot of girls families have "some" idea of what they are doing but they don't want to face the facts; probably too painful to think of one's little girl on the street hoeing. I
Short story: I'm "dating" one girl from Niteroi that I meet on my last trip. She took me to her house to I met her mom. Before we got to the house, she told me her mother thinks she works baby sitting in Copa, and she has to sometimes spend the night at the families house. And what ever I do, don't call her by here working name!
Well the mom was real cool, but the more I sat there and talked to her, the more I was convinece that the mom had some idea what she did. Afterall, it's no secert that prositiution is legal, and that many girls don't or can't find other jobs.
The mom was kinda flirting with me too; or maybe I just was being full of myself. But she did go take a shower and then walked right in front of me with just her towel on when was going from the Bathroom of the bedroom.
One other thing that was interesting was her mom gave me the whole "what are you intentions for my daugher talk". Not the usual America dad way, buy she asked a lot of questions about what I do; do I have any kids; have I ever been married; do I have car and house in America.
So TJ, just keep doing thing in a respectful and honest way and most of the time they work themselves out.
TJ Fannatic, why dont you post this brasilian guy's picture and name on the board, so we can all know who he is. Your post serves as a great warning. THX
[QUOTE=Bravo]TJ Fannatic, why dont you post this brasilian guy's picture and name on the board, so we can all know who he is. Your post serves as a great warning. THX[/QUOTE]
Damn good idea! I never thought of that, but since he likes to talk about posting pictures it will serve him right.
thanks,
TJ
Dwilso39,
Both he and she are well known at Mabs. He has been renting apartments from Mabs for years.
She does not believe he has her family info. either. She told me thar she told him to "f-off," and to tell them if he really has some pictures.
On other points, I have been invited to her family house and her Copa apartment. Plus, I have her family phone number.
I, like you, am always respectful and the girls, in turn, respect this.
TJ
Just returned from 2 months in the Dominican Republic. Had a blast! I am looking to take my next trip to Brazil. Love the latin women. I was wondering what was the best city to visit? Are there monger catering resorts, hotels, Charli's type all inclusives, or is more of a get a hotel and fend for yourself. If it is more of the fend for yourself type atmosphere, my primary questions of where to stay, what clubs / areas to visit are I guess more proper.
Are the Termas in Rio closed for easter weekend? Im thinking of making a quick trip to Rio and if the Termas are closed on Easter weekend on Friday and Saturday there is no point for me to make a trip out there. I can use Easter Sunday to rest before I go home the next day.
Great site.
Some 1800 radios all around the world, and some 600 for only Brasil.
[url]http://www.radios.com.br/novo/estados.htm[/url]
Guys,
I need some advise... I'm looking to purchase American movies, tv shows, etc that have portuguese subtitles. My satellite provider does not have portuguese as a closed captio option. Thought this would be a good way to further immerse myself in the language. I also have pimsleur and roseta stone. Any ideas where to purchase in the US.
Lonzof
[QUOTE=Lonzof]Guys,
I need some advise... I'm looking to purchase American movies, tv shows, etc that have portuguese subtitles. My satellite provider does not have portuguese as a closed captio option. Thought this would be a good way to further immerse myself in the language. I also have pimsleur and roseta stone. Any ideas where to purchase in the US.
Lonzof[/QUOTE]
If you have a blue-ray player, you'll have a greater selection of movies to choose from, and in addition to the subtitles, you can also select Portuguese audio, which btw is halfway decent in terms of translation.
[QUOTE=Flexinbk]If you have a blue-ray player, you'll have a greater selection of movies to choose from, and in addition to the subtitles, you can also select Portuguese audio, which btw is halfway decent in terms of translation.[/QUOTE]
Thanx Flexinbk but where can I make the purchase.
Lonzo
what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?
I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed
and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).
Am I allowed to bring this into the country? what are the
chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?
Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?
Some countries have different laws on this and I just
wanted to check before hand.
Thanks alot
[QUOTE=Koolkid]I work-out 5 days a week and would like to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).
Am I allowed to bring this into the country? What are the chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?
Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?
Some countries have different laws on this and I just wanted to check before hand.
Thanks alot[/QUOTE]Kool.- I brought in my whey and super greens with no problems, I did however put it in my carry on and everyone was ok with it as long as it's powder. I would not trust trying any of this stuff from down there as things tend to be a bit different and I try to do anything to avoid stomach problems while I'm down there (having the runs in Rio is not fun) so I would stick with your own supps!
Musze
[QUOTE=Koolkid]I work-out 5 days a week and would like to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).
Thanks alot[/QUOTE]I've been doing tons of reading. Lonely Planet's guidebook mentions a few gyms out there in Rio you can use. Brazilians seem to be very into sports and fitness. I'd imagine the protein/creatine stuff should be easily available out there. I'm planning on using Body Tech gym in Leblon and also taking ju jitsu lessons at Gracie and maybe some capoeira lessons.
[quote=neverenuff]what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?[/quote]
it's a network cable - rj-45. the last time i was in rio i turned on my laptop to look for a wi-fi signal. there were several in the building but they were all locked. so i pulled out my network cable and went searching for a cable modem and found one. connected the cable to my laptop and modem and i was in business, same as home, i use the same cable rather than wifi because it is faster.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed
and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).
Am I allowed to bring this into the country? what are the
chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?
Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?
Some countries have different laws on this and I just
wanted to check before hand.
Thanks alot[/QUOTE]
You can bring your own sups and not worry about customs. The items you mentioned are legal. As far as declaring it, read the declaration sheet when you are on the plane to make that determination. Either way, you won't have a problem - its not illegal to take protein and creatine.
or
You can get the supplements you need in Rio (more room in your suitcase). There are a few health stores that sell supplements on N.S. Copacabana.
Plus on most corners there are food and juice places. They can mix you a protien drink right there on the spot. I bet the gyms even sell the stuff too.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?
[/QUOTE]
In case it helps, I've tried two different ones bought in Rio recently. As you might expect, ones made in S.A. are quite cheap and ones imported are expensive (but not prohibitively). Two is hardly enough to generalise and you may have more experience of analysing supplements than myself - I've only been using them for just over 6 months. I do like stuff that dissolves easily using a shaker, and the Brasilian one I bought didn't dissolve as well as the high-tech imported one. You might want to bring enough of your favourite brands to keep you going while you check out local availability. There are many shops in Centro offering a wide range of supplements, including specialist shops (I used one on Uruguiana). Or there's shops in Copa too. The suco bars will do a basic mix (cheap but overpriced).
it is a rj-45 cable.
try to bring your own, as here in brazil in some hotels/apartments you only find the plug but not the cable, and when you go downstairs asking for it they don't give it for free but sell it to you.
[quote=neverenuff]what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?[/quote]
Thanks for all your advice. I'm going to bring my own.
I know we talked about this in the not so distant past, but anyone know anything about JW Blue in the duty free stores? I checked out the link, but no luck.
ryjer
DISREGARD..............found it.
I was in Lima last week and my enamorada peruana told me about a book signing that she had gone to for an ex GDP, Vanessa de Oliveira, from Brazil. The name of the book in English is, "100 Secrets of a Hooker: Everything That You Wanted to Know About Men, Sex, and the Profession." I know there are Spanish and Portuguese versions of the book, but I'm not sure if there is an English one. Anyway here is that chick's website.
[url]http://vanessadeoliveira.********.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]...Anyway here is that chick's website.
[url]http://vanessadeoliveira.********.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
******** is "b l o g s p o t" (without spaces).
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I know we talked about this in the not so distant past, but anyone know anything about JW Blue in the duty free stores? I checked out the link, but no luck.
ryjer
DISREGARD..............found it.[/QUOTE]
While on the Delta flight, I bought a bottle as a gift for a Brazilian friend. It was USD 155. Funny thing is there was only one and another guy offered me a premium if I would sell it to him.
BTW, I was around when he opened it. Wasted on my palate.
Hi
Just wondering if there are shops selling the copy sunglasses
in copa. I don't want to bring my originals so was going to buy
some copy designer brands when I get there.
Also are there shops along copacabana beach selling the fake stuff
like there is in thailand?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Hi
Just wondering if there are shops selling the copy sunglasses
in copa. I don't want to bring my originals so was going to buy
some copy designer brands when I get there.
Also are there shops along copacabana beach selling the fake stuff
like there is in thailand?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Of course! The best collection fake stuff, however, is not found at the Copa. Instead, hop on the sub way and get off at the Uruguaiana station. As you exit that station, you can find an open air market, where you can buy watches, T-shirts, sunglasses, shoes, toiletries, radios, MP3s, bags, whatever. And at excellent prices ...
euro
[QUOTE=Euro100]Of course! The best collection fake stuff, however, is not found at the Copa. Instead, hop on the sub way and get off at the Uruguaiana station. As you exit that station, you can find an open air market, where you can buy watches, T-shirts, sunglasses, shoes, toiletries, radios, MP3s, bags, whatever. And at excellent prices.
Euro[/QUOTE]well, I DO NOT recommend to a foreigner to go alone to uruguaiana area (SAARA), specially if you have no portuguese skills.
I am carioca, living here for a lifetime and I don't feel safe there.
Welcome,
Brazil Rio
[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]well, I DO NOT recommend to a foreigner to go alone to uruguaiana area (SAARA), specially if you have no portuguese skills.
I am carioca, living here for a lifetime and I don't feel safe there.
Welcome,
Brazil Rio[/QUOTE]
Saara dangerous...? It's a shopping district, crowded with people. The most dangerous thing that will happen there (daytime) is that somebody will step on your feet.
[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]well, I DO NOT recommend to a foreigner to go alone to uruguaiana area (SAARA), specially if you have no portuguese skills.
I am carioca, living here for a lifetime and I don't feel safe there.
Welcome,
Brazil Rio[/QUOTE]
What part of Rio do you live in? I know some cariocas that hardly ever travel out of their own district. I can tell they don't feel completely comfortable a few blocks from home. But Uruguiana is your city centre for goodness sake. Not the poshest bit admittedly. Saara can get extremely crowded. Maybe some people would feel a bit claustrophobic. Especially if you are well turned out. But daytime around there is much like any other market, barring places like Delhi's GB Road. It's safer than a lot of Rio markets, much less markets elsewhere in Brasil. I wouldn't feel safe about wandering round with a bulging wallet that might get pickpocketed but even that is a bit hypothetical. But if I get murdered behind the Metro, you can always say you were right. ;)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]What part of Rio do you live in? I know some cariocas that hardly ever travel out of their own district. I can tell they don't feel completely comfortable a few blocks from home. But Uruguiana is your city centre for goodness sake. Not the poshest bit admittedly. Saara can get extremely crowded. Maybe some people would feel a bit claustrophobic. Especially if you are well turned out. But daytime around there is much like any other market, barring places like Delhi's GB Road. It's safer than a lot of Rio markets, much less markets elsewhere in Brasil. I wouldn't feel safe about wandering round with a bulging wallet that might get pickpocketed but even that is a bit hypothetical. But if I get murdered behind the Metro, you can always say you were right. ;)[/QUOTE]I find centro completley safe even late at night on a weekend.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]You can bring your own sups and not worry about customs. The items you mentioned are legal. As far as declaring it, read the declaration sheet when you are on the plane to make that determination. Either way, you won't have a problem - its not illegal to take protein and creatine.
or
You can get the supplements you need in Rio (more room in your suitcase). There are a few health stores that sell supplements on N.S. Copacabana.
Plus on most corners there are food and juice places. They can mix you a protien drink right there on the spot. I bet the gyms even sell the stuff too.[/QUOTE]
Nearly all the gyms I have used have had a small juice bar and will mix up a protein shake for you. Juice bars in the street will also mix them up sometimes with guarana etc, saves a lot of hassle with shakers etc.
Does anyone know anything about this place? It's over on Prado Junior. I think I may have remember seeing some chat about this place. Anyway, I got a business card from some girl, and was wondering if it's worth checking out.
ryjer
Anyone know if I can have a document notarized at the consulate in Centro? If so, what's the price?
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Anyone know if I can have a document notarized at the consulate in Centro? If so, what's the price?
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I would recommend you to go to a Cartório. It will only cost you a few reais.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Does anyone know anything about this place? It's over on Prado Junior. I think I may have remember seeing some chat about this place. Anyway, I got a business card from some girl, and was wondering if it's worth checking out.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Went there once. (about 4 trips ago) can't remember the fee to go in, but it included 1 drink. As soon as I sat down garotas came to the table wanting drinks. I left after 1 drink. Prices for drinks are expensive so watch your bill. Not worth visiting. Go to the termas.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Anyone know if I can have a document notarized at the consulate in Centro? If so, what's the price?
ryjer[/QUOTE]You can do it in the consulate, only if you need it to be valid in your country, I don't remember the fee.
Sorry
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Anyone know if I can have a document notarized at the consulate in Centro? If so, what's the price?
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Here is the slate of Consular Fees but I suggest you (try to) call them to make sure they offer the service you need. This list is from the U.S.Embassy page and it isn't clear that all Consulates provide these services.
Telephone: (0xx21) 3823-2000
SERVICES
Service Fee (US$)
Oaths and acknowledgements
first service (seal) $30
additional seal $20
Certify True Copy
first copy $30
additional copy $20
Authentication of local official's Signature $30.00
[url]http://brasilia.usembassy.gov/index.php?action=materia&id=1225&submenu=7&itemmenu=58[/url]
If you have a question about visas, passports, U.S. Citizen Services, notary services or other consular matters, e-mail [email]visario@state.gov[/email]
to contact Rio de Janeiro
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Does anyone know anything about this place? It's over on Prado Junior. I think I may have remember seeing some chat about this place. Anyway, I got a business card from some girl, and was wondering if it's worth checking out.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I have been inside a couple of times over the years; however, I haven't been inside for at least 5 years. I have not returned because every time I went inside there were hardly any girls in there and the girls on the outside trying to get you to come in were better looking than the girls on the inside.
If you are walking by on your way to Erotika or Barbarella, you might as well check it out and see for yourself. I would not go out of my way to visit this place.
[quote=brazilman]what was rio like in the 90's. was it really cheap. less crowded. i assume that before the internet really took off in the 2000's, rio was still a secret gem. high speed wasnt widely available in the 90's so you didn't have all these people finding out step by step instructions on everything termas/help/copa. think about it. w/o the internet, do you know how hard it would be to find all this information about all these termas and othon palace, help. am i right on my theory? i would love to hear comments from people about what brazil was like in the 80's 90's compared to today.[/quote]
i have said this before so for you guys who read it i apologize.
my first time to rio was memorial day weekend 1980, i was working for pan american world airlines and it was one of my first big trips. i was very young and the group i went with were older more seasoned travelers. they chose to stay in ipanema, i went along for the ride, never went to copacabana, didn’t know there was a monger scene there, just did the normal tourist stuff, had no sex at all.
a year and a half later(nov 81) i asked a buddy of mine to go on a trip with me, our first stop was rio, this time we stayed on copacabana, still didn’t know about any monger scene, still no clue, still no internet and exchange of information. the first night we were sitting at an outdoor café on copacabana and i turned to my friend and said there is something strange here in this café, i said the café is filled with young beautiful girls and they are staring at us, i think we might have stumbled upon something. well we had a blast that night, i pulled a lorenzo and snuck the girl into the rio palace hotel (now sofitel), i went back to rio 35 times between that date and 1987.
rio was real cheap then, everybody wanted dollars, everybody was selling brazilian currency at 30 -40 % above official rate, marius was $6 for a full meal.
of course there was no internet so the way you found out about places was through word of mouth, copacabana mongering was very simple then as it is now. help opened up in 1984 but really wasn’t a place the girls went to, it was a non pro place. sure we heard about low end places in centro, praca mau and places like villa mimosa but it wasn’t our cup of tea then as now. many of the taxi drives would hand out brochures for termas, aeroporto was very popular, i went once but preferred copa freelance then as i do today.
then i went back to rio after a 10 year lapse in 1997, i searched the internet and came across the world sex guide, i read all the reports and was surprised to see that help was a place that gdp’s frequented because i only remember it as a non pro place. my first night back in rio i actually went to barbarellas in 1997, didn’t go to help until the 2nd night because a guy i met in barbarellas pushed me to go there and i fell in love with the place and have been going there ever since.
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Nearly all the gyms I have used have had a small juice bar and will mix up a protein shake for you. Juice bars in the street will also mix them up sometimes with guarana etc, saves a lot of hassle with shakers etc.[/QUOTE]
In 2007, I went to a couple of stores looking for creatine and was told that it cannot be sold in Brazil. However, last year I took a bottle of MuscleTech's CreaKic in my checked bag and had no problems with customs.
Its funny you mentioned whey protein. My first time to Rio, I brought a ziploc bag of gatorade and a ziplock bag of whey. I mix it as my post workout drink. Anyway, when I came back home through the miami airport, and at that time, the drug guy would act like a real asshole to you and ask you all kinds of questions as if you were guilty. He pissed me off so bad. Anyway, he opens my bag to check my stuff and he sees the 2 bags on top of my clothes. He gets all pissed. WHATS THAT! As if I was so stupid I was going to put my drugs in the suitcase in plain site. I was so fed up with this guy, I said sarcasticly" it must be orange and chocolate coke. I would check it if I were you. " "you are too smart for me" long story short he calls the other guy and they start asking me questions and I am so angry by this time, I really mess with them before they finally let me go through.
Good ole days of traveling.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I have said this before so for you guys who read it I apologize.
My first time to Rio was memorial day weekend 1980, I was working for Pan American World Airlines and it was one of my first big trips. I was very young and the group I went with were older more seasoned travelers. They chose to stay in Ipanema, I went along for the ride, never went to Copacabana, didn’t know there was a monger scene there, just did the normal tourist stuff, had no sex at all.
A year and a half later(Nov 81) I asked a buddy of mine to go on a trip with me, our first stop was Rio, this time we stayed on Copacabana, still didn’t know about any monger scene, still no clue, still no internet and exchange of information. The first night we were sitting at an outdoor café on Copacabana and I turned to my friend and said there is something strange here in this café, I said the café is filled with young beautiful girls and they are staring at us, I think we might have stumbled upon something. Well we had a blast that night, I pulled a Lorenzo and snuck the girl into the Rio Palace hotel (Now Sofitel), I went back to Rio 35 times between that date and 1987.
Rio was real cheap then, everybody wanted dollars, everybody was selling Brazilian currency at 30 -40 % above official rate, Marius was $6 for a full meal.
Of course there was no internet so the way you found out about places was through word of mouth, Copacabana mongering was very simple then as it is now. Help opened up in 1984 but really wasn’t a place the girls went to, it was a non pro place. Sure we heard about low end places in Centro, Praca Mau and places like Villa Mimosa but it wasn’t our cup of tea then as now. Many of the taxi drives would hand out brochures for Termas, Aeroporto was very popular, I went once but preferred Copa freelance then as I do today.
Then I went back to Rio after a 10 year lapse in 1997, I searched the Internet and came across the World Sex guide, I read all the reports and was surprised to see that Help was a place that GDP’s frequented because I only remember it as a non pro place. My first night back in Rio I actually went to Barbarellas in 1997, didn’t go to Help until the 2nd night because a guy I met in Barbarellas pushed me to go there and I fell in love with the place and have been going there ever since.[/QUOTE]
It would be great to hear more of your stories of the 80's and 90's.
I am sure you have some. I am sure you have seen GDP's come and go on the scene. Was rio your only destination in Brazil? Have you ventured to Recife, Salvador, Forteleza (Stunning beaches as well as woman)?
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I have said this before so for you guys who read it I apologize.
My first time to Rio was memorial day weekend 1980, I was working for Pan American World Airlines and it was one of my first big trips. I was very young and the group I went with were older more seasoned travelers. They chose to stay in Ipanema, I went along for the ride, never went to Copacabana, didn’t know there was a monger scene there, just did the normal tourist stuff, had no sex at all.
A year and a half later(Nov 81) I asked a buddy of mine to go on a trip with me, our first stop was Rio, this time we stayed on Copacabana, still didn’t know about any monger scene, still no clue, still no internet and exchange of information. The first night we were sitting at an outdoor café on Copacabana and I turned to my friend and said there is something strange here in this café, I said the café is filled with young beautiful girls and they are staring at us, I think we might have stumbled upon something. Well we had a blast that night, I pulled a Lorenzo and snuck the girl into the Rio Palace hotel (Now Sofitel), I went back to Rio 35 times between that date and 1987.
Rio was real cheap then, everybody wanted dollars, everybody was selling Brazilian currency at 30 -40 % above official rate, Marius was $6 for a full meal.
Of course there was no internet so the way you found out about places was through word of mouth, Copacabana mongering was very simple then as it is now. Help opened up in 1984 but really wasn’t a place the girls went to, it was a non pro place. Sure we heard about low end places in Centro, Praca Mau and places like Villa Mimosa but it wasn’t our cup of tea then as now. Many of the taxi drives would hand out brochures for Termas, Aeroporto was very popular, I went once but preferred Copa freelance then as I do today.
Then I went back to Rio after a 10 year lapse in 1997, I searched the Internet and came across the World Sex guide, I read all the reports and was surprised to see that Help was a place that GDP’s frequented because I only remember it as a non pro place. My first night back in Rio I actually went to Barbarellas in 1997, didn’t go to Help until the 2nd night because a guy I met in Barbarellas pushed me to go there and I fell in love with the place and have been going there ever since.[/QUOTE]Yeah sangue bon, we would all love to hear some stories about the 80's and 90's. In places to go, beach action, what restraunts the garotas used to hang in. Prices, GFE etc. What carnivals were like, revellion etc. Winters there.
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]I agree that the economic mindset in Brasil is ridiculous, "we aren't selling so much so we will put the price up", but there may be other factors at play here.....when a girl quotes a ridiculously high price and refuses to budge it might be a sign that she is not interested in you...[/QUOTE]
I post there to not continue in photo gallery...
I totally agree and I guess not many thought about it...and for me it works the contrary as well, so to be sure she likes you, or at least she not dislikes you, it is a good sign if she let her price goes down....imho
Well, about the prices, I was in balcony's with 2 pro girls (99% of the girls fount there are pro, only ask the price and be happy). About this issue: money.
They both said that they couldn't go out with a "gringo" for less than are$300/night. Their goal is are$ 400 or more.
Strange that most of the forigners that I know doesn't hink that these prices are so high. They use to compare with US (like vegas) prices. And say it is very cheap.
Guys, you are been robbed.
Btw, I live in Tijuca, north zone, and yes, I still don't feel safe in Uruguaiana area.
[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]Btw, I live in Tijuca, north zone, and yes, I still don't feel safe in Uruguaiana area.[/QUOTE]
O que e isso colega? You live in Tijuca but don't feel safe downtown? Wow dude.
[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]They both said that they couldn't go out with a "gringo" for less than are$300/night. Their goal is are$ 400 or more.
Btw, I live in Tijuca, north zone, and yes, I still don't feel safe in Uruguaiana area.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like they were running a game on you...............looking for a really uneducated mongerer!!
Was just shopping in the Uruguaiana area today, and had no issues. You must live in a plastic bubble!!!
[QUOTE=Brazil Rio]Well, about the prices, I was in balcony's with 2 pro girls (99% of the girls fount there are pro, only ask the price and be happy). About this issue: money.
They both said that they couldn't go out with a "gringo" for less than are$300/night. Their goal is are$ 400 or more.
Strange that most of the forigners that I know doesn't hink that these prices are so high. They use to compare with US (like vegas) prices. And say it is very cheap.
Guys, you are been robbed.
Btw, I live in Tijuca, north zone, and yes, I still don't feel safe in Uruguaiana area.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, as this estrangeiro thinks those prices are BULLSHIT and I refuse to overpay for these guttermuppet *****s.
[QUOTE=Brazilman]What was the currency before the real?
I would love to have gone in the 80's. If I only knew about that place when I was 18 to 25. Hell, even when I was 15! Could you imagine being a teenager back then and knowing about Rio. You could work after school and save up to go every summer for a month or 2.[/QUOTE]
When I first arrived in Rio 1980 the currency was called the Cruzeiro, inflation was rampant. You bought your money mostly on the black market, which was from any bell boy, jewelry store, taxi driver; they were selling Cruzeiros for Dollars. It got to be ridiculous that if you changed a few hundred dollars the amount of Cruzeiros you got back was huge, very bulky, could barely fit in your pocket. Then in the late 80's they changed the currency and called it Cruzados and just slashed a couple of zeros off the notes.
I was in my early 20's then, this was before aids, BBBJ and GFE was the norm so was bare back sex, never caught anything.
Money was never discussed beforehand with the GDP's, the next day when she left you gave her a small present as they called it.
I actually appreciate the young girls now more than then because then in my early 20's I was getting girls like this all over the world, so the girls in Rio were no big deal but don't get me wrong I was still hiting Rio about 7 times a year in addition to other major cities of the world.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]When I first arrived in Rio 1980 the currency was called the Cruzeiro, inflation was rampant. You bought your money mostly on the black market, which was from any bell boy, jewelry store, taxi driver; they were selling Cruzeiros for Dollars. It got to be ridiculous that if you changed a few hundred dollars the amount of Cruzeiros you got back was huge, very bulky, could barely fit in your pocket. Then in the late 80's they changed the currency and called it Cruzados and just slashed a couple of zeros off the notes[/QUOTE]
Wasn't there a "New Cruzeiro" in there somewhere? Or is that the same as the Cruzado?
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Yeah sangue bon, we would all love to hear some stories about the 80's and 90's. In places to go, beach action, what restraunts the garotas used to hang in. Prices, GFE etc. What carnivals were like, revellion etc. Winters there.[/QUOTE]
In the 80's non pro places I frequented were:
Regines in the Meridien hotel, it was in the basement, high class disco.
In the Rio Othon Palace on the side entrance they had a place called
Crocodiles, this was another disco type place although small,
Then of course Help opened in 1984, still looks the same today. I went here the least then but I go there the most now.
There was a place in Ipanema called Hippopotamus that is now Barronetti, I went there all the time. All these places were all non pro all very difficult to score without any Portuguese, just like today.
After a night out in one of the above places if we didn't score then we would walk Ave. Atlantica from Mabs all the way down to Pigalle looking for something nice hanging out in one of the Cafes. This is where the girls were in every cafe.
I didn't go to Rio for 10 years but then I returned in 1997 and found the WSG on the internet. I found it very strange that Mea Pataca was a focal point where the girls hung out because back in the 80's it was just like any other cafe along the avenue, they all had girls.
During the 80's I was also going to Amsterdam , I remember with the exchange rate that a girl in Amsterdam was about $18 for a quickie, I remember the girls from Copa for TLN were less. Barbarellas was more of course and it was in a different location from where it is today. I remember how I found out about it, I was checking into the Lido motel with a girl I picked up on Copa and this guy was checking in ahead of me with this stunning modelesque blond, I asked him, where did you find something like that, he told me Barbarellas, nice but expensive, even then.
During that time I was very busy, I never spent New Year in Rio, mostly in places like Zermatt, Innsbruck etc They didn't have that 10 day minimum like Rio does to book a hotel plus they were good places too. Same with Carnaval, I have never been to Carnaval in Rio mostly because I didn't want to compete with drunks who were on their vacation of a lifetime.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Wasn't there a "New Cruzeiro" in there somewhere? Or is that the same as the Cruzado?[/QUOTE]
I sort of remember that, don't remember exactly but I think what they did was just take the old bills and scratch the trailing zeros off, but I could be wrong, it's been a long time.
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Would you give any of those girls that you had in 2000 R$200 for a session now? Time fades us all, older men pay more, older women earn less. [/QUOTE]
You're right, back in the 80's when I was in my early 20's we never even discussed money but the best was that the girl you had the night before was usually waiting outside your hotel for you the next night. Sometimes there would be a crowd out there.
This doesn't happen anymore but then again Im not in my early 20's anymore. But I enjoy my times in Rio now even more than I did then.
I've been saving some banknotes since I first visited Brazil in 1991.
In the period 1991 until they introduced the Real in 1994 they used currencies called:
(- Cruzado)
- Novo Cruzado
- Cruzeiro
- Cruzeiro Real
Sometimes there were new bills written "Cruzeiro", but they often used the old bills "Novo Cruzado" with "Cruzeiro" stamped on it. 200 Novos Cruzados became 200 Cruzeiros. They also stamped "Cruzeiros" on the even older "Cruzado" bills. 10000 Cruzados became 10 Cruzeiros.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I've been saving some banknotes since I first visited Brazil in 1991.
In the period 1991 until they introduced the Real in 1994 they used currencies called:
(- Cruzado)
- Novo Cruzado
- Cruzeiro
- Cruzeiro Real
Sometimes there were new bills written "Cruzeiro", but they often used the old bills "Novo Cruzado" with "Cruzeiro" stamped on it. 200 Novos Cruzados became 200 Cruzeiros. They also stamped "Cruzeiros" on the even older "Cruzado" bills. 10000 Cruzados became 10 Cruzeiros.[/QUOTE]
I still have in one of my drawers a bundle of old cruzeiros. I don't remember the exact amount but I guess it's more than 70,000. It worths actually virtually nothing. I remember then (in the early to mid 80's) that we had always to carry huge bundle of money because cruzeiros worth nothing then. Prices were astronomical figures in thousand of cruzeiros.
Just rented it thought it was interesting take especially the female actress take on her about her character in the dvd extras interviews. Lots of insight for anyone that has never been to Brazil.
"British character actor Hugh Laurie stars in the improbable romantic comedy GIRL FROM RIO. Raymond (Laurie) is a bank clerk with a secret passion for samba. When he discovers his wife having an affair with his slimy boss, Raymond snaps and steals a hefty sum of cash from the bank, using it to fund a quick trip to Rio de Janeiro where he hopes to find Samba Monthly covergirl Orlinda (Brazilian model Vanessa Nunes). Upon his arrival, he falls in with scheming cab driver Paulo, who while agreeing to assist Raymond in his hunt, also has his eyes on the small fortune Raymond carries with him. While Raymond may be after one person in all of Rio, soon almost everyone in Rio is after him--or rather, what he carries with him."
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Just rented it thought it was interesting take especially the female actress take on her about her character in the dvd extras interviews. Lots of insight for anyone that has never been to Brazil.[/QUOTE]
Saw the movie a year ago. It was pretty funny. I enjoyed it. Why is it people steal money then want to return it?
What's up with having a star tatoo? Does it mean something or just a basic design? I see all these girls with them on their shoulders.
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Saw the movie a year ago. It was pretty funny. I enjoyed it. Why is it people steal money then want to return it?[/QUOTE]He wanted to but didn't though.
The girl in the interview says how because of poverty and the nature around causes them to steal when they see the opportunity. So now I have a perspective whenever I'm Brazil and a gdp is trying to get the highest rate she can out of me.
I love getting into the airport and smelling the city. I can't take some of the bathrooms though. It's obvious there's no air circulation, but the stench of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] make me gag. Bleach...........................mofo!
ryjer
0 to 30 means shit in the rain on a motorcycle if I fall off!!!!!
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]What's up with having a star tatoo? Does it mean something or just a basic design? I see all these girls with them on their shoulders.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I mean you are in Rio for an extended period, right? You speak portuguese and know several GDP & non-GDP. Why don't you ask them and report back to us what it means? You make report after report, but IMHO most add little insight or your posts lack any real depth. It's as if you post without any forethought. You just wake up with a thought and post it. I am not flaming you, I am simply speaking the true as I see it.
RR
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]I mean you are in Rio for an extended period, right? You speak portuguese and know several GDP & non-GDP. Why don't you ask them and report back to us what it means? You make report after report, but IMHO most add little insight or your posts lack any real depth. It's as if you post without any forethought. You just wake up with a thought and post it. I am not flaming you, I am simply speaking the true as I see it.
RR[/QUOTE]
I apologize that my post aren't up to your standards. I only asked because I was looking for a quick answer. Please feel free to ignore any or all of my posts.
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I apologize that my post aren't up to your standards. I only asked because I was looking for a quick answer. Please feel free to ignore any or all of my posts.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I will take you up on that offer. Perhaps all your posts are an attempt to become a moderator on this board. Seems on the Help board you only talk to yourself. Small wonder. I think Jackson should give you your own section here. Just my opinion.
RR
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]I will take you up on that offer. Perhaps all your posts are an attempt to become a moderator on this board. Seems on the Help board you only talk to yourself. Small wonder. I think Jackson should give you your own section here. Just my opinion.
RR[/QUOTE]
Your opinion seems to be irrelevant. I don't require my own section nor am I attempting to be a moderator. If you have a problem with my post don't read them. Get over it already............
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]There was a place in Ipanema called Hippopotamus that is now Barronetti, I went there all the time.[/QUOTE]
Caligula on Praca da Paz in Ipanema was great also. I've had lofty scores there.
It was one of glamest and trendiest club in Rio in the early 90s.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]What's up with having a star tatoo? Does it mean something or just a basic design? I see all these girls with them on their shoulders.
ryjer[/QUOTE]I have been living in the IronbBound section in NJ, which consist of 40% of the Brazilian population in the USA, so I asked some of my neighbors about the star tattoo, and this is what I have to report. The star tattoo does signify that you where a GDP or came from a less than desirable way of life, favela or poverty. That is the perception of a star tattoo. According to most Brazilians, no educated or well to do Brazilera would ever place a tattoo of a star on her body or place a tattoo on her body period, that was the general consensus among the Brazilian people.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I have been living in the IronbBound section in NJ, which consist of 40% of the Brazilian population in the USA, so I asked some of my neighbors about the star tattoo, and this is what I have to report. The star tattoo does signify that you where a GDP or came from a less than desirable way of life, favela or poverty. That is the perception of a star tattoo. According to most Brazilians, no educated or well to do Brazilera would ever place a tattoo of a star on her body or place a tattoo on her body period, that was the general consensus among the Brazilian people.[/QUOTE]
Your explanation was funny. :D
I don't judge you as I recall that you wrote in an earlier post that you have never been to Brazil.
Gisele Bündchen, brazilian model. The highest paid model in the world. Is she a poor favelada girl that works as a GP? Não senhor. Check out her tattoo on her wrist...
[url]http://br.dada.net/image/12924673/Gisele-B%C3%BCndchen,-estrela-solit%C3%A1ria-no-pulso-esquerdo,tatuagens-,-famosas/[/url]
Kelly Key is a famous brazilian singer. She has 3 stars tattooed so I guess that means that she's been wh****g a lot? Funny though is that her background is certainly not from a favela and you can propably say that she's quite well-off.
[url]http://ego.globo.com/Gente/Noticias/0,,MUL315545-9798,00-KELLY+KEY+FAZ+MAIS+TRES+TATUAGENS.html[/url]
Stars could mean the southern cross, 5 star girl etc.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I hope this information helps someone.
I am lucky in that I do not have to be anywhere at any certain time. As a result, I often pay airline change fees. Recently I made a change to my travel from Rio to the US. In addition to the outrageous $250 change fee three separate US phone agents wanted to charge me over $350 because of a fare increase.
Wrong answer. The right answer is if the same class of service is available there is no additional charge, just the change fee. Finally got through to a supervisor who apologized and made the change.
I know there are a lot of airline employees who frequent this site, but as a frequent flier I will tell you that lately more times than not, airline employees on the ground get it wrong. Those in the air usually are great.[/QUOTE]Hi Exec,
Working in the industry I have to agree with your experience. The main reason for this lack of competance is that more and more airliners start with handling agents instead of own employes. The consquence of this is lower salary and frequent change of handling agents (airlines want the lowest price). This means that a much higher turnover of staff and therefore less competance. In good old days people often started working for an airliner and due to the status, not to bad salary and of course benefits they stayed there until they retired. So guys. Be careful and do like Exec. Double and tripple check the price.
Chico
[QUOTE=Sperto]Your explanation was funny. :D
I don't judge you as I recall that you wrote in an earlier post that you have never been to Brazil.
Gisele Bündchen, brazilian model. The highest paid model in the world. Is she a poor favelada girl that works as a GP? Não senhor. Check out her tattoo on her wrist...
[url]http://br.dada.net/image/12924673/Gisele-B%C3%BCndchen,-estrela-solit%C3%A1ria-no-pulso-esquerdo,tatuagens-,-famosas/[/url][/quote]I did not say I have been to Brazil I said I live in The Ironbound section in Newark NJ, which is where a large percentage of Brazilians live in the USA, and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]... and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.[/QUOTE]
Obviously your brazilian neighbours were all bullsh****ng you.
Anyway, it's important that our forum members don't start believing that brazilian girls with star tattoos are lowclass prostitutes.
P.S To me it doesn't sound like the same thing when somebody writes "According to most Brazilians" and "I asked a few Brazilians". Yes, the English language is very tricky.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I did not say I have been to Brazil I said I live in The Ironbound section in Newark NJ, which is where a large percentage of Brazilians live in the USA, and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.[/QUOTE]
I have asked a few people here in Brazil, but they say it's just a tattoo, and the significance is to the owner. I was never really sure until now. I appreciate your attempt to help me understand though.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I did not say I have been to Brazil I said I live in The Ironbound section in Newark NJ, which is where a large percentage of Brazilians live in the USA, and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.[/QUOTE]Do you intend to one day go to brazil? When or if you do then coment on brazilians.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I did not say I have been to Brazil I said I live in The Ironbound section in Newark NJ, which is where a large percentage of Brazilians live in the USA, and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.[/QUOTE]
Hitmanm3,
May I suggest that you quit while you are behind. You said that 40% of Brazilians in the US live in Ironbound. I asked you by PM for the source of your information. You did not reply.
The other day, Sperto asserted that 30% of the population in Copacabana was old. I asked him for support and he sent me two links.
My purpose is not to challenge either of you but to know the truth for possible future business decisions. Sperto was able to backup his statement, you were not. Further, Sperto consistently has provided members of this forum with accurate information from firsthand expereinces in Brazil. Can the same be said of you?
In the case of the star tattoo, I think he just doesn't want someone to spy one and go up to a girl and ask her how much for the hour. In other words, he was just trying to help. He IS an expert on Brazil, he doesn't have to prove it on this forum.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I did not say I have been to Brazil I said I live in The Ironbound section in Newark NJ, which is where a large percentage of Brazilians live in the USA, and I asked a few Brazilians about the star tattoo and the response was what I fore mention. As for other type of designs I do not know, but as for the star, that was what I was told. Read before responding, I understand that the English language is a little tricky.[/QUOTE]
Data from the US Census American Community Survey of 2007 indicate that 10.9% of the Brasilian population of the US resides in the state of New Jersey. A complete state distribution can be found at this site: [url]http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/visualizations/brazilian-population-in-the-us-by-st[/url]
Sorry, no stats on tats. :D
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Hitmanm3,
May I suggest that you quit while you are behind. You said that 40% of Brazilians in the US live in Ironbound. I asked you by PM for the source of your information. You did not reply.
The other day, Sperto asserted that 30% of the population in Copacabana was old. I asked him for support and he sent me two links.
My purpose is not to challenge either of you but to know the truth for possible future business decisions. Sperto was able to backup his statement, you were not. Further, Sperto consistently has provided members of this forum with accurate information from firsthand expereinces in Brazil. Can the same be said of you?
In the case of the star tattoo, I think he just doesn't want someone to spy one and go up to a girl and ask her how much for the hour. In other words, he was just trying to help. He IS an expert on Brazil, he doesn't have to prove it on this forum.[/QUOTE]
Out in the Ironbound section the Brazilian community have two local newspapers one is Brazilero and the other one escapes me. They quoted the number, as far as them all being in ironbound I think is a miss quote. Newark, Kerney, Harrison and Elizabeth are four cities in NJ that are populated by a big number of Brazilians, even the streets are in English and Portuguese. If you are in NJ in Sept. You should come to the Brazilian festival. Awesome for those who never been to Brazil. And Sperto and Exect Talent I mean no harm. I love this site. And thanks for the Information.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Data from the US Census American Community Survey of 2007 indicate that 10.9% of the Brasilian population of the US resides in the state of New Jersey. A complete state distribution can be found at this site: [url]http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/visualizations/brazilian-population-in-the-us-by-st[/url]
Sorry, no stats on tats. :D[/QUOTE]No surprise that alot of gpd visits north NJ and posts on local boards.
A question to people on the ground now in Rio. What is the price that should
be paid for a pack of four original cialis?
I was asked to pay 120 reals for 4, which he had to go out the back and find. When I declined he showed me another pack which he said is made in brazil and is 60 reals?
I want the original but don't know what i should be paying.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Koolkid]A question to people on the ground now in Rio. What is the price that should
be paid for a pack of four original cialis?
I was asked to pay 120 reals for 4, which he had to go out the back and find. When I declined he showed me another pack which he said is made in brazil and is 60 reals?
I want the original but don't know what i should be paying.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
sounds right
[QUOTE=Koolkid]A question to people on the ground now in Rio. What is the price that should
be paid for a pack of four original cialis?
I was asked to pay 120 reals for 4, which he had to go out the back and find. When I declined he showed me another pack which he said is made in brazil and is 60 reals?
I want the original but don't know what i should be paying.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Pretty much the right price.
Go for it if you want it.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]pretty mcuh the right price..go for it if you want it.[/QUOTE]Viagra is $200r at miguel lemos 100mg x 4. A little cheaper at other places.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]
I was asked to pay 120 reals for 4[/QUOTE]
Make sure you are getting 20mg tablets for that. There's not a lot of margin. Sometimes chemists will do an offer on stock they want to shift, but the reduction is only a few bucks. The 20mg are better value than the 10s. I've not heard of generic cialis - you're probably best to go for the originals. Most chemists will show you the computer screen for any drug that shows both the recommended retail price and the discounted one. 120R for 4x20mg is ok. Commoner drugs - some of which you would need a prescription for back home - are worth shopping around for, especially ones that have been out for a while and for which there are several established generic versions.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Make sure you are getting 20mg tablets for that. There's not a lot of margin. Sometimes chemists will do an offer on stock they want to shift, but the reduction is only a few bucks. The 20mg are better value than the 10s. I've not heard of generic cialis - you're probably best to go for the originals. Most chemists will show you the computer screen for any drug that shows both the recommended retail price and the discounted one. 120R for 4x20mg is ok. Commoner drugs - some of which you would need a prescription for back home - are worth shopping around for, especially ones that have been out for a while and for which there are several established generic versions.[/QUOTE]
The generic name is written on the box, (Tadalafil.)
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]The generic name is written on the box, (Tadalafil.)[/QUOTE]Yes, it has to be, by law.But I was just trying to be helpful on the subject of generics (ie drugs that are marketed under the generic name and with no brand name).
They usually come out a good number of years after the original brand to avoid lawsuits. Gringos tend to ask for brand names (or get offered them) and so pay much more than they need for things like loperamide, ranitidine, ibroprofen and so on. There is no difference between the generic and the branded drug (except maybe a sugar-coating).
But with generic versions of very expensive drugs like Tadalafil you have to be careful as there is a heavy black market in fake drugs, or drugs sold as the generic that only have a percentage of the actual drug in them.
Most chemists in RJ are honest (-ish) IMO, apart from trying to get you to buy the most expensive thing. But occasionally they will say 'this is just the same' and there is f.a. way of telling if it is or not. For instance, if something said tadalafil on the side, would you read through all the small print to check for clauses like, "occasionally there will not be enough of the actual drug available, in which case a similar substitute will be made." Which is one I've seen. Expensive fakes, of course, have the 'brand' logo on the box, the same as Nike t-shirts, though in some cases the chemist will not be aware of it.
I only buy tadalafil occasionally in Brasil. Over and above any logic or proof on the matter, I've generally found it ok. My biggest concern in buying drugs is that they have not been kept within the maximum temperature range. I maybe worry unduly, but not all drugs are kept in good aircon storage. It might not affect them (a 'maximum storage temperature' is the same as a 'expiry date' - it means they've spent a fortune testing it to that limit and normally haven't spent money testing it beyond that. But if there's two chemists selling it at the same price and one looks cool and legit and one looks like a sweat box, why take a chance.)
If in doubt, when you're buying a lot of an expensive anything, split the purchase between more than one drogaria.
Ok so I've come to the board to quell an argument with the fellows and myself. Would one agree that working women (terma, help, etc) most do what they do out of necessity while others to obtain wants. Thus attempting to diffrentiate their work life from there personal. So one can imply their mentality is I'm not cheating because this is what I do for a living, yet if I use my leisure time to chill with you it is because I have some form of attraction.
I believe its all what I call the Matrix all a game. While several dispute with statements that no she likes me because she spent time with me and didn't charge.
Whats your take.
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Viagra is $200r at miguel lemos 100mg x 4. A little cheaper at other places.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
As mentioned about this before, a lot of farmacies have special offer. Ask if there is, sometimes you can actually save up to 50. 75 are$. I found that with viagra, I'm sure this goes for all medicaments.
Good Luck. And enjoy.
Chico
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Yes, it has to be, by law.But I was just trying to be helpful on the subject of generics (ie drugs that are marketed under the generic name and with no brand name).
They usually come out a good number of years after the original brand to avoid lawsuits. Gringos tend to ask for brand names (or get offered them) and so pay much more than they need for things like loperamide, ranitidine, ibroprofen and so on. There is no difference between the generic and the branded drug (except maybe a sugar-coating).
But with generic versions of very expensive drugs like Tadalafil you have to be careful as there is a heavy black market in fake drugs, or drugs sold as the generic that only have a percentage of the actual drug in them.
Most chemists in RJ are honest (-ish) IMO, apart from trying to get you to buy the most expensive thing. But occasionally they will say 'this is just the same' and there is f.a. way of telling if it is or not. For instance, if something said tadalafil on the side, would you read through all the small print to check for clauses like, "occasionally there will not be enough of the actual drug available, in which case a similar substitute will be made." Which is one I've seen. Expensive fakes, of course, have the 'brand' logo on the box, the same as Nike t-shirts, though in some cases the chemist will not be aware of it.[/QUOTE]
Be careful when shopping for generics over brand names. Always get the price and quantity of both. This article mentions how in many cases the generics costs more than the brand name. Sometimes over three times as much. But if it's sold legally then it is supposed to go through the same testing and have the same effects as the original brand names so like Christopherd said it is all the same except for maybe the non-medicinal part.
[url]http://www.sinfarmig.org.br/noticias.php?id=547[/url]
06/02/2009 - JORNAL NACIONAL RETRATA MATÉRIA SOBRE GENÉRICOS
Na última segunda-feira, dia 2 de fevereiro, o Sinfarmig ficou espantado ao ver uma matéria publicada no Jornal Nacional que comparava preços de medicamentos genéricos com similares e não com medicamentos de referência e que se transformou em um grande equívoco. Ao constatar que a reportagem ignorou a real legislação do medicamento genérico no Brasil, este Sindicato imediatamente entrou em contato com a produção do JN, explicando a grande confusão divulgada nacionalmente.
Nesta quinta-feira, dia 5 de feveriro, o JN fez a retratação da matéria. Confira abaixo a íntegra das reportagens:
Fonte: Jornal Nacional 02 fevereiro - Preço de genéricos supera o de remédios de marca
As leis de mercado estão produzindo um fenômeno estranho nas prateleiras das farmácias. Veja na reportagem de Giuliano Tamura. Os genéricos devem conter o mesmo princípio ativo dos remédios de referência. Por isso, antes de ir para as farmácias, são submetidos a testes da Agência Nacional de Vigilância Sanitária. "Eles chegam ao mercado exatamente iguais ao de marca, fazendo o mesmo efeito", farmacêutica Luciana Viana.
Hoje, de cada cinco remédios comercializados no país, um é genérico, e a proposta de oferecer medicamentos mais baratos à população produziu uma situação curiosa. Os medicamentos genéricos ganharam a preferência do consumidor brasileiro, mas nem sempre eles são os mais baratos encontrados nas farmácias. Em alguns casos, a diferença de preços entre genéricos e medicamentos de referência passa de 180%.
É o caso do Fluconazol, para micose. O remédio de marca custa R$ 7,58, enquanto o genérico está saindo quase pelo triplo do preço. A Azitromicina é outro exemplo. Três comprimidos genéricos do antibiótico custam R$ 24,58 e o medicamento de marca é vendido por menos de R$ 10.
A diferença entre os medicamentos para controle de colesterol também é grande. A caixa com 30 comprimidos de Sinvastatina de 20 miligramas custa R$ 52,53. O mesmo remédio de referência custa menos da metade, diferença de 156%.
”Está o contrário? Então é preciso tomar cuidado", diz uma consumidora. "É estranho mesmo, você não acha?", pergunta uma mulher. "É um absurdo, porque se o genérico já é para facilitar para as pessoas que não tem condição", reclama uma terceira.
Para os donos de farmácia, tanta diferença tem explicação. "É o cliente que passou a usar mais o genérico, e o de marca, para continuar sendo vendido, teve que se adequar ao preço igual ou até mais barato", declarou o dono de farmácia Álvaro Lima.
O presidente da Associação das Indústrias de Medicamentos Genéricos, Odnir Finotti, concorda. "A tendência é baixar sempre o preço, sempre que tem concorrência, e quanto maior é o número de genéricos para a mesma substância, mais os preços tendem a cair”.
Nessa guerra de preços, pesquisar nunca é demais.
Fonte: Jornal Nacional - 06 de Fevereiro - Genérico tem que ser pelo menos 35% mais barato
Essa é a condição para esse tipo de medicamento entrar no mercado. Saiba a diferença entre medicamentos de marca, similares e genéricos.
O Jornal Nacional apresentou, na última segunda-feira, uma reportagem sobre os preços dos remédios, mostrando que os medicamentos de referência estavam mais baratos do que os genéricos, mas a reportagem estava errada e dezenas de telespectadores nos mandaram mensagens alertando para isso.
Numa situação como essa, o JN se obriga a três coisas: a primeira é pedir desculpas, a segunda é agradecer aos que nos mandaram o alerta e a terceira é colocar os pingos nos "is". Quem dá a explicação bem clara sobre os tipos de remédios encontrados nas farmácias é a repórter Zileide Silva. A técnica em enfermagem Elaine Silva troca, sim, um medicamento de referência, de marca, por um genérico. “Normalmente, quando eu vou ao médico, costumo perguntar se pode substituir e eles falam que sim”.
Já são dez anos com genéricos, os únicos remédios que podem substituir os medicamentos de marca receitados por um médico. Já são genéricos 18% dos remédios comercializados no país. Mesmo assim, ainda há quem não confie muito. “Tem alguns que eu experimentei, a impressão pessoal minha é que não é a mesma coisa. Fica na dúvida, volto para o original”, opinou o aposentado Mário Oba.
Dúvida que, segundo o diretor da Anvisa, Dirceu Raposo de Mello, não deve existir. O genérico, ele garante, é tão eficaz e seguro quanto o de marca e, por isso, pode substítuí-lo. “Esses genéricos passam por testes e esses testes são monitorados e acompanhados pela Agência Nacional de Vigilância Sanitária”. Os medicamentos de referência trazem a marca, o nome do produto, na embalagem. Os genéricos, uma tarja amarela com um "G" de genérico. E ainda tem os similares, que lembram muito os de referência. Também são conhecidos pela marca e têm o mesmo princípio ativo, a mesma substância usada no medicamento de referência. Também já começaram a ser testados, mas, por lei, não podem substituir o de marca.
Na farmácia, o farmacêutico é obrigado a saber e a explicar se um medicamento é de marca, similar ou genérico e ainda tem outra diferença. Para entrar no mercado, para chegar na prateleira, o genérico tem que ser mais barato. No mínimo, 35%. É claro que depois tem a concorrência e, para vender mais, qualquer laboratório, de genérico ou de marca, pode reduzir seus preços. E muitos fazem isso, o consumidor percebe. “Hoje em dia, tem genérico bem mais caro”, diz uma mulher. Mas para a grande maioria, a principal vantagem do genérico ainda é mesmo o preço. “É bem mais barato”, diz um homem. “Sempre que eu busco é mais barato”, diz uma mulher.
E, segundo a Associação Brasileira de Genéricos, esta é mesmo uma tendência. “A concorrência dos genéricos os dez anos tem feito que todos os medicamentos no Brasil, de alguma forma, tenham preço reduzido. E tudo isso é positivo, porque quem ganha são as pessoas que precisam de medicamento”, disse Odinir Sinotti, vice-presidente da Pró-Genéricos. O contínuo Valdemar Pereira da Silva, que só compra genéricos, concorda. “O medicamento me dá resultado, satisfaz a dor que eu estou sentido, resolve qualquer problema, obtenho resultado”.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Be careful when shopping for generics over brand names.
Na última segunda-feira, dia 2 de fevereiro, o Sinfarmig ficou espantado ao ver uma matéria publicada no Jornal Nacional que comparava preços de medicamentos genéricos com similares e não com medicamentos de referência e que se transformou em um grande equívoco. Ao constatar que a reportagem ignorou a real legislação do medicamento genérico no Brasil, este Sindicato imediatamente entrou em contato com a produção do JN, explicando a grande confusão divulgada nacionalmente.
[/quote]
Which roughly translated I guess means, "Sinfarmig was astonished to see a misleading national newspaper report that compared prices of generic medicines and misconceptions over similar branded ones. The law on generic medicines was ignored and this Union immediately contacted blah-de-and-so on."
This is a newspaper story and interesting but of limited practical value. What is useful is knowing whether it applies to what you're buying. If you get the prices at one chemist of several things with same composition then do the same at another, it will be very much less likely that you are being ripped off, and you have the proof in front of you. I compared ranitide (a common drug that stops stomach acid) at various chemists in Copa and Centro. The prices varied, but the big price difference was a shop on R.Carioca that was getting rid of certain stock at one third of the price of anywhere else. I bought a small amount then bought a lot next time I was passing. Incidentally, the smaller packets, on this occasion, also worked out at a quite a bit less than half the price of the bigger packet with twice as many tablets. There's not many rules but it's not rocket science either. Just see what's available and make sensible purchases.
The same chemist had Cialis at 104R against the usual 119R, but this was hardly worth the bother.
Common drugs [i]that gringos will use[/i] include loperamide (for diarrhea) and anti-histamines (best to get the non-drowsy ones) to stop itching from mozzie bites. You can usually get savings of up to half the price by shopping round on different packagings (and not all generics are the same price). The most expensive option is the brand name you recognise from home, duly imported rather than made in Brasil. But as Ent points out, even that's not a rule.
I've read through a ton of the postings and still haven't been able to find some good suggestions for what I am specifically looking for. I'm going to Brazil in August for a little more than 3 weeks. I'm flying into Rio and am planning on some fun and sun there for a few days. However, I want to move on. I'm into surfing and am looking for a place to go that has the following:
1. Good beaches and surfing;
2. Good nightlife (for partying, dancing, drinking, and most importantly finding both pros and non-pros);
3. NOT an overly resort type town. Something more laid back and organic rather than super developed with high rise hotels;
4. A place that is relatively easy to get to from Rio (I'm willing to fly).
Suggestions?
[QUOTE=Ari Stevens]I've read through a ton of the postings and still haven't been able to find some good suggestions for what I am specifically looking for. I'm going to Brazil in August for a little more than 3 weeks. I'm flying into Rio and am planning on some fun and sun there for a few days. However, I want to move on. I'm into surfing and am looking for a place to go that has the following:
1. Good beaches and surfing;
2. Good nightlife (for partying, dancing, drinking, and most importantly finding both pros and non-pros);
3. NOT an overly resort type town. Something more laid back and organic rather than super developed with high rise hotels;
4. A place that is relatively easy to get to from Rio (I'm willing to fly).
Suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Near Rio you have Ipanema, Barra da Tijuca, Saquarema. Since you are not going until August, keep an eye on this site for current postings of activities:
[url]http://www.localbrasilsurf.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Ari Stevens]I've read through a ton of the postings and still haven't been able to find some good suggestions for what I am specifically looking for. I'm going to Brazil in August for a little more than 3 weeks. I'm flying into Rio and am planning on some fun and sun there for a few days. However, I want to move on. I'm into surfing and am looking for a place to go that has the following:
1. Good beaches and surfing;
2. Good nightlife (for partying, dancing, drinking, and most importantly finding both pros and non-pros);
3. NOT an overly resort type town. Something more laid back and organic rather than super developed with high rise hotels;
4. A place that is relatively easy to get to from Rio (I'm willing to fly).
Suggestions?[/QUOTE]
PM me closer to your arrival time. I can put you in touch with the right people. You will need to become a paid subscriber to PM.
[QUOTE=Ari Stevens]I've read through a ton of the postings and still haven't been able to find some good suggestions for what I am specifically looking for. I'm going to Brazil in August for a little more than 3 weeks. I'm flying into Rio and am planning on some fun and sun there for a few days. However, I want to move on. I'm into surfing and am looking for a place to go that has the following:
1. Good beaches and surfing;
2. Good nightlife (for partying, dancing, drinking, and most importantly finding both pros and non-pros);
3. NOT an overly resort type town. Something more laid back and organic rather than super developed with high rise hotels;
4. A place that is relatively easy to get to from Rio (I'm willing to fly).
Suggestions?[/QUOTE]
If you want good surfing Brazil has lots of option. All the coast from Rio Grande do Sul up to Amapá.
However close to Rio and laid back results in less options. Saquarema might suit you.
To fullfill all your 4 demands (except pro's) I would recommend you to head north to e.g Itacaré, Bahia. It will take a busride but I assure you that you will not regret it.
Some info:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=724828&postcount=330[/url]
[QUOTE=Ari Stevens]I've read through a ton of the postings and still haven't been able to find some good suggestions for what I am specifically looking for. I'm going to Brazil in August for a little more than 3 weeks. I'm flying into Rio and am planning on some fun and sun there for a few days. However, I want to move on. I'm into surfing and am looking for a place to go that has the following:
1. Good beaches and surfing;
2. Good nightlife (for partying, dancing, drinking, and most importantly finding both pros and non-pros);
3. NOT an overly resort type town. Something more laid back and organic rather than super developed with high rise hotels;
4. A place that is relatively easy to get to from Rio (I'm willing to fly).
Suggestions?[/QUOTE]I have a friend who is a big time surfer and he always told me that Fortaleza is great for surfing. Playa futuro and so is Guarapari in Espirito Santo. I personally have not been there but he is brazilian so I take his word for it.
Good luck
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I need to withdrawl some cash right now, 21.55 rio time any ideas?
Road name etc. Thanks
Hi, I have chatted with many girls from Belem some times ago because I liked to go to Belem. Now I have changed my programme because I have to reach Cuiaba. I'm chatting with some girls from Cuiaba but I am getting a bad surprise: in Cuiaba the girls are vely less friendly than in Belem and they don't have the curiosity to know a gringo. ;)
Brasil is so vast .... that they have a different friendly?
I am so sad for it. ;)
I'm making a mistake or it is right?
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I have chatted with many girls from Belem some times ago because I liked to go to Belem. Now I have changed my programme because I have to reach Cuiaba. I'm chatting with some girls from Cuiaba but I am getting a bad surprise: in Cuiaba the girls are vely less friendly than in Belem and they don't have the curiosity to know a gringo. ;)
Brasil is so vast .... that they have a different friendly?
I am so sad for it. ;)
I'm making a mistake or it is right?[/QUOTE]
I find the Cuiabá girls very friendly.
Maybe you have less response with the Cuiabá girls because they are not as gringo-oriented as the Belém girls?
[QUOTE=Sperto]I find the Cuiabá girls very friendly.
Maybe you have less response with the Cuiabá girls because they are not as gringo-oriented as the Belém girls?[/QUOTE]
Could yu tell me more on Cuiaba? If they have less response with gringos how can surprise them? Do you know an interesting hotel close to action?
On Cuiaba section there aren't any post fromm much time.
thanks for some info.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Could yu tell me more on Cuiaba? If they have less response with gringos how can surprise them? Do you know an interesting hotel close to action?
On Cuiaba section there aren't any post fromm much time.
thanks for some info.[/QUOTE]
I've made a report on Cuiabá several years ago (it's maybe in the Other Areas section). Cuiabá is good for non-pro's, but I wouldn't bother to go there unless I planned to visit the Pantanal.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]I need to withdrawl some cash right now, 21.55 rio time any ideas?
Road name etc. Thanks[/QUOTE]A year or so ago I got some useful information on 24hr ATM that you can withdraw your daily limit at any hour. There is a a badresco ATM in the zona sul supermarket at praca general osorio, ipanema, 2 mins from irish pub. I have personally used at various times throughout the night, the first time was about 1am and was curious to see if it worked and it did, I used to be able to get a $R1000 or so as daily limit but these red ATMS have a $R600 limit per transaction this goes for all the free standing red badrecso ATM in pharmacys and supermarkets I believe now. You can obviously do more transactions providing your card issuers daily limit. I've had to rely on this ATM on a couple of occasions when been caught short with not enought cash and a GDP in tow in taxis etc.
[QUOTE=Bornran]Ok so I've come to the board to quell an argument with the fellows and myself. Would one agree that working women (terma, help, etc) most do what they do out of necessity while others to obtain wants. Thus attempting to diffrentiate their work life from there personal. So one can imply their mentality is I'm not cheating because this is what I do for a living, yet if I use my leisure time to chill with you it is because I have some form of attraction.
I believe its all what I call the Matrix all a game. While several dispute with statements that no she likes me because she spent time with me and didn't charge.
Whats your take.[/QUOTE]They ALL charge eventually. Marriage is the biggest CHARGE of all. You pay WITH YOUR LIFE! Enjoy her while you can.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I've made a report on Cuiabá several years ago (it's maybe in the Other Areas section). Cuiabá is good for non-pro's, but I wouldn't bother to go there unless I planned to visit the Pantanal.[/QUOTE]
I have just done a search in every section but I did not see your post.;)
I need some info because there isn't any post on Cuiaba here.
thanks
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]I need some info because there isn't any post on Cuiaba here.[/QUOTE]
You'll find some info in the Cuiabá thread.
I don't know where my report ended up.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter] how can surprise them?[/QUOTE]
As anywhere else.
Simply with good looks, language skills, cultural awareness, humor, initiative, imagination, self-confidence, charm, discernment, sensitivity, poise, time and of course cash.
Anyhow don't dream. The days when sex-hungry gringos on a one week holidays were an option for normal brasileiras are long, long, long gone. And don't think that less-travelled areas may offer you better chances with non-pros than cosmopolitan big cities. Even in provinces foreigners have a reputation as culturally inept sex tourists and girls have figured out since long that we only want to fuck them, so gringos are now more a curiousity to avoid than anything else.
BTW Cuiaba is a quite boring and uninspiring place. Better go to Goiania IMO.
Thanks to all that replied. Will check out some of these places and report back!
Ari
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I have a friend who is a big time surfer and he always told me that Fortaleza is great for surfing. Playa futuro and so is Guarapari in Espirito Santo. I personally have not been there but he is brazilian so I take his word for it.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]What's up with having a star tatoo? Does it mean something or just a basic design? I see all these girls with them on their shoulders.
ryjer[/QUOTE]I was on a brasilian dating site and was chatting with a girl so I asked her what did the star mean and here is a translation of my question about the star tattoo
Her explanation in porto:
[quote]a estrela signifa coisa boas
cada ponta da estrela
é representado por um elemento
como terra
ar
fogo
água e a mente
e tambem significa eternidade
eu tenho uma estrela no meu pulso[/quote]My translation to english:
[quote]
the star significantly good thing
each edge of the star
is represented by an element
as land
air
Fire
water and mind
also and means eternity
I have a star on my wrist [/quote]Hope this helps I was curious myself since I also have seen them on many brasileras
By the way I might have a hot date on my next trip to bunda land
LOL thanks to the board I have some dialect going with ole girl.
I have been to Lima many times. The reason I go there is they have a horse track there and I can kill time in the afternoon and then prowl at night for Chicas.
Is there a place in Brazil where I can go to the track and also bet on the USA races?
It would be easier for me to stick to Lima but the Culos I see in Brazil have me wanting to give it a try.
Thanks in advance for any help in this matter.
Gentlemen!
I would like to share an information on a mishap that happened to me.
For the first time, on my 20 year long career with traveling all over the world, I missed my flight today. I was going from Rio to Sao Paulo. I got to airport late because a car we used broke on the way.
Now to the point.
Be careful with GOL ([url]www.voegol.com.br[/url]) because their practises are practically stealing. Since I missed my flight, they declared that I was a no show (not true, I was there) and therefore I would have to pay a fine of R$ 90 per passenger or difference of the flight fare, which would have been more than R$ 600 for next flight. Since I won't pay ridiculous amount of money for a such a short flight and the later flight didn't work for me I opted for not to go. Now starts the most interesting part.... since they declared that I was no show GOL will not reimburse the leg from SP to Rio. I can even understand that I fucked up, not showing up early enough but the return leg they should reimburse since now they may resell my seat.
Anyway I have never seen this kind of practises anywhere in the world and I have been traveling a lot. Well I guess I need to ask a lawyer to study this issue and if he finds anything out of order, sue GOL.
My word is that be careful with this airline.....
[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I have been to Lima many times. The reason I go there is they have a horse track there and I can kill time in the afternoon and then prowl at night for Chicas.
Is there a place in Brazil where I can go to the track and also bet on the USA races? It would be easier for me to stick to Lima but the Culos I see in Brazil have me wanting to give it a try.
Thanks in advance for any help in this matter.[/QUOTE]Yeah there is a horse-racing track in Gavea, a few miles from Ipanema beach. I went there a few years ago on my 1st trip to Rio & played 6 or 7 races. The track operates a fri. Thru mon. Schedule, at night on fri/mon, afternoons on sat/sun, year-round I believe. The track is called Joquei Club, ph. # 2512-9988.
[QUOTE=Perkele]Gentlemen!
I would like to share an information on a mishap that happened to me.
For the first time, on my 20 year long career with traveling all over the world, I missed my flight today. I was going from Rio to Sao Paulo. I got to airport late because a car we used broke on the way.
Now to the point.
Be careful with GOL ([url]www.voegol.com.br[/url]) because their practises are practically stealing. Since I missed my flight, they declared that I was a no show (not true, I was there) and therefore I would have to pay a fine of R$ 90 per passenger or difference of the flight fare, which would have been more than R$ 600 for next flight. Since I won't pay ridiculous amount of money for a such a short flight and the later flight didn't work for me I opted for not to go. Now starts the most interesting part.... since they declared that I was no show GOL will not reimburse the leg from SP to Rio. I can even understand that I fucked up, not showing up early enough but the return leg they should reimburse since now they may resell my seat.
Anyway I have never seen this kind of practises anywhere in the world and I have been traveling a lot. Well I guess I need to ask a lawyer to study this issue and if he finds anything out of order, sue GOL.
My word is that be careful with this airline.....[/QUOTE]
well... usually when you buy goods or services, especially services, "terms and conditions apply". It is all in there.
You might not like them, but you accepted them at time of purchase.
Maybe you now want to read them even before consulting a lawyer, not to add more (legal) costs to your trip as the lawyer won't do it for free (and lawyers are paid even if you loose the case, isn't it weird? that's the system, mate!).
If you did not arrive at the check-in in time, technically and legally you are a "no show". No doubt.
How many times have we heard from the cockpit "we have to disembark some baggage because the passenger is not on board". Surelyu the passenger is somewhere in the terminal, certainly not stucked in traffic or at home. Maybe he just arrived late at the gate door or still having a drink somehwere in ther terminal, forgetting time runs at 60seconds a minute pace. But he is not on the plane, he did not show up at the gate in time, He is a "no show", and his luggage is disembarked. And he is grounded. Period.
Low costs airlines do enforce their terms and conditions more than others because they are cheap airlines and they take the chance to grab any cent they can. But this applies soemtime with major airlines too. They are no charity organizations, at the end of the day.
Might not sound too much customer friendly, but... "terms and conditions apply", never forget that, guys.
[QUOTE=Shemp]Yeah there is a horse-racing track in Gavea, a few miles from Ipanema beach. I went there a few years ago on my 1st trip to Rio & played 6 or 7 races. The track operates a fri. Thru mon. Schedule, at night on fri/mon, afternoons on sat/sun, year-round I believe. The track is called Joquei Club, ph. # 2512-9988.[/QUOTE]
There's a small theatre in the grounds that does some eclectic performance arts as well. It's a posh area, and traffic jams can be bad at rush hour or in a downpour. You can just about walk it if a long stroll round Lagoa is your cup of tea.
Hi, when I will reach Brazil I will have to change 3.500 Euro at one time only.
In yor opinion is it better to use ATM or banking counter or ..... where is the best exchange rate?
thanks
[QUOTE=Bionicman]well... usually when you buy goods or services, especially services, "terms and conditions apply". It is all in there.
You might not like them, but you accepted them at time of purchase.
Maybe you now want to read them even before consulting a lawyer, not to add more (legal) costs to your trip as the lawyer won't do it for free (and lawyers are paid even if you loose the case, isn't it weird? that's the system, mate!).
If you did not arrive at the check-in in time, technically and legally you are a "no show". No doubt.
How many times have we heard from the cockpit "we have to disembark some baggage because the passenger is not on board". Surelyu the passenger is somewhere in the terminal, certainly not stucked in traffic or at home. Maybe he just arrived late at the gate door or still having a drink somehwere in ther terminal, forgetting time runs at 60seconds a minute pace. But he is not on the plane, he did not show up at the gate in time, He is a "no show", and his luggage is disembarked. And he is grounded. Period.
Low costs airlines do enforce their terms and conditions more than others because they are cheap airlines and they take the chance to grab any cent they can. But this applies soemtime with major airlines too. They are no charity organizations, at the end of the day.
Might not sound too much customer friendly, but... "terms and conditions apply", never forget that, guys.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
Working in the "dirty business" I can tell you that this is actually the terms of any airliner. Some "regular" airliners might be flexible, but this agian depends of who you meet at the ticketdesk. What you are in title to get back is the taxes. Just refere to the Montreal Konvention when you call them and tell them that all airliners "full or lowprice" have to follow these laws.
Brgds
Chico
[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I have been to Lima many times. The reason I go there is they have a horse track there and I can kill time in the afternoon and then prowl at night for Chicas.
Is there a place in Brazil where I can go to the track and also bet on the USA races?
It would be easier for me to stick to Lima but the Culos I see in Brazil have me wanting to give it a try.
Thanks in advance for any help in this matter.[/QUOTE]
In Gavea they have an area in the track called turff club where you can bet on all the US simulcasting. The pools are comingled like the US, but they take there cut like OTB. On my last trip in March I was there and I hit for almost 3000 reals betting the US tracks. It was like being a whale in Vegas. The manager came out and gave me a Turff club hat and T-shirt. LOL. By the way, simulcasting is open 7 days a week. Their website is [url]www.turff.com.br[/url] . Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, when I will reach Brazil I will have to change 3.500 Euro at one time only.
In yor opinion is it better to use ATM or banking counter or. Where is the best exchange rate?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If that's all you need to change, bring it in cash. Otherwise use an atm. Loads along ns Copacabana.
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]If that's all you need to change, bring it in cash. Otherwise use an atm. Loads along ns Copacabana.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I don't understand your suggestion. I will reach Goaiania and I don't know if it is better to buy brazilian real from a Bank or casa de câmbio. I think it is impossible to use ATM to withdraw 3500 euro.
thanks
Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
Say you have the runs and are staying in all day in your room. Once he or she takes off or not, just take off on your asap. Disappear for the entire afternoon, run to a pharmacy, buy some sort of stomach medicine. Then go to a termas or set up a meeting at motel with your favorite gdp. Show up later at your hotel with the medicine, with some of it consumed ofcourse.
Then just say you wanted to play it safe and went to a local clinic, they suggested the over the counter medicine you have in hand, you were busy for a few hours as a result. You feel much better after the use of the medicine. Brother!!!!!!!!!........ just make it happen.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
Tell the boss that an old friend just happens to be in Rio and invited you for a drink. When he wants to tag along, tell him that your friend was in an accident as a child and has an eyebrow missing and is very self-conscious about meeting new people.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
I was actually faced with your exact same situation about 20 or so years ago, although it wasn't in Brazil (it was in what was then West Germany). I said I was sorry but that I had distant relatives at some distance from the city that I had promised to get together with. I said that I was German on my mother's side (a total fabrication). So tell your boss you have Brazilian relatives that you have committed to, and if your name isn't Luso-Brazilian, say they are your mother's relatives.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
Dude, those are the main ones. I have known preachers to go down to Rio and could not resist the temptation of a Brazilian GDP. Give him a chance. Tell him of advice you were given to go to a nice bar. Then take him to 4X4 in the daytime and watch how he reacts. You will probably create a monster.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity. From which country you are from? I'm asking this just to know, because I've been living in several different countries and I have never heard that an employee has to have his vacation with his boss.
Why don't you say that its your vacation, which you want to spend by yourself?
[QUOTE=Perkele]Just out of curiosity. From which country you are from? I'm asking this just to know, because I've been living in several different countries and I have never heard that an employee has to have his vacation with his boss.
Why don't you say that its your vacation, which you want to spend by yourself?[/QUOTE]Business brings me to Brazil. The business isn't in Rio, Rio is just a entry and departure place. Vacation days must be used for time spent doing non-business things like hanging out in Rio. USA business ethics rules.
I'd tell him straight away that I'm using vacation days, so I'm spending time solo, but he is my boss, it's his first time in Brazil, and he would be offended if I alienated him in foreign country for unclear reasons.
Thanks to all who have given me tips. I had a good mongering opportunity ruined by a coworker like this once and I'm not letting it happen again. Mongering isn't a socially acceptable hobby here in the USA, so I keep that on the DL during these business trips unless I'm with a clearly like-minded fiend.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Has anyone had the experience of needing to get away from a chaste and clingy boss or co-worker in Rio, one who doesn't approve of our hobby? If so, how did you handle it?
I am in the situation of traveling with someone who wants to take the same flights in and out, stay at the same hotel, *let's* go see things, yada, yada, yada. It would be extremely unwise to even hint at anything about GDP's, as his code of ethics and beliefs is opposed to this..and he is my superior at work.
Everytime I try to move my flight out, he says yeah, lets stay a couple more days....err..whilst I think..."no I am trying to get away from you, sir!..soon I'll have used all my vacation trying to outlast you"
I think the best I can do is to get a different hotel and buy time that way, but I can't seem to outlast him on the days in Rio.
Any advice, anecdotes, stuff like that?[/QUOTE]
I go down to Rio with colleagues all the time, and I manage to keep the hobby secret from them. So here is some advice:
1. Spend some time with the boss during daytime, doing some sightseeing. (It's actually cool to do that kind of stuff for a change). Then claim you are wiped out and want to hit the mattress early. Voila, an evening of terma time can follow.
2. On another afternoon claim you have to see the Metro system, and that you will see your boss for dinner at 10 or so. Nobody is really interested in seeing the Metro; so the boss will not join you. Then take the metro to Uruguaiana and hit 4x4 from 4 to 9 pm.
3. Take a late dinner at the dive outside help and watch your boss react to the gdps attacking. Claim you had no idea this was going on here, if you must. But who knows, this may be his thing after all.
4. Get his appetite going by hitting a tourist samba show, like the (pretty decent, actually) at Plataforma 1. If he takes this well and wants more, then you can hit a place like Barbarella. Avoid take-out at that stage. If he can stomach Barbarella, then you can suggest a terma. (Of course you have to claim at each step that the bellhop or concierge or front desk guy gave you the info.) If this works and turns him into a fellow monger, this has a HUGE upside for you: the boss may like you as his wingman, schedule more bizz trips to Rio and take you along. :D
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Dude, those are the main ones. I have known preachers to go down to Rio and could not resist the temptation of a Brazilian GDP. Give him a chance. Tell him of advice you were given to go to a nice bar. Then take him to 4X4 in the daytime and watch how he reacts. You will probably create a monster.[/QUOTE]
LOL +1, been there also!
Trying to be all good employee, then the next thing I know my boss is telling me to beat it! AWWWWww, "I have an appointment to keep" Yea right, saw GDP from Taboao slip in to his room as I was heading to lobby. How I know she was a GDP? I fucked her last business trip.
I am glad I work for myself now!
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]LOL +1, been there also!
Trying to be all good employee, then the next thing I know my boss is telling me to beat it! AWWWWww, "I have an appointment to keep" [/QUOTE]Yeah, I am hoping he's cloaked, but I doubt that. He tried to get his wife to agree to fly down and meet him.
[QUOTE=Euro100]I go down to Rio with colleagues all the time, and I manage to keep the hobby secret from them. So here is some advice:
1. Spend some time with the boss during daytime, doing some sightseeing. (It's actually cool to do that kind of stuff for a change). :D[/QUOTE]Euro, thanks these are all great tips. I will use the metro one for sure (VM), and maybe the 'I'm sick' one (Monte Carlo) that was suggested before.
The one about sightseeing for a change, that's strikes a chord. I've been most of the way around the world, but spend most of the time chasing poontang and don't see much. If only there were a 'bang tour bus' with the terma right on board. There's an idea for the venture capital guys out there.
Has anyone been following the AirFrance Flight from Rio to Paris that appears to have just vanished into thin air. This is interesting! Maybe it's a coverup! here's a link:
[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOegnahAFcEgwJZ4WKGkVz9Dgq5wD98KR2R81[/url]
[QUOTE=MrLowDown]Has anyone been following the AirFrance Flight from Rio to Paris that appears to have just vanished into thin air. This is interesting! Maybe it's a coverup! here's a link:
[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOegnahAFcEgwJZ4WKGkVz9Dgq5wD98KR2R81[/url][/QUOTE]
Just vanished ? Where have you been ? It`s been in the news everyday since june 1st.
A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url]
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]
Great video!
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]
I hope you or one of your buddies got to bang that blonde at the beach.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]Very Nice.
Tell the Blonde with the sun glasses to smile next time.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]
I enjoyed your video. I would love to see more of them.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]
Very nice. Very nice indeed. I stand corrected. This is your BEST post.
RR
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]
Very Nice! You are definitely an auteur. Go Lakers!
Does anyone know the current price for Cialis in Copa farmicias?
I'm on limited mongering time, so need to turn a 2 shot game into 4/night fast foda. I'll be looking for a farmicia near Metro & L'uomo.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Does anyone know the current price for Cialis in Copa farmicias?
I'm on limited mongering time, so need to turn a 2 shot game into 4/night fast foda. I'll be looking for a farmicia near Metro & L'uomo.[/QUOTE]
One pharmacy that's very close (on the Figueiredo Magalhães side of the Metro station, just across the street) is Drogaria Peixoto, Rua Figueiredo Magalhães, 615, Lojas B and C, and Rua Figueiredo Magalhães, 741, Loja M They got 24-hour home delivery, too (you can even buy by CC).
EA
I agree it is really nice and well done but the pity is that besides the 2 blondes the other girls are ugly or a bit fat IMHO.
Ok I admit I am much more into slavic type women, but for sure there are in Rio much better looking girls IMHO, but again, the video is nice and I enjoyed it too.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]A little video I made with windows movie maker............
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK2rY_hqfY[/url][/QUOTE]Very uplifting at the end of a long day [:D]
I was passing through the photo gallery and I noticed that the girls from Brazil are gorgeous but IMHO the girls from Columbia are starting to give the the Brazilian girls a run for their money. What does the board think about my observation?
Imho, it's easier to find a better looking face in colombia, but Brazil beats Colombia hands down when it comes to the Sex. You will also be able to find more siliconeboobs and silconebutts in Colombia if that is your thing. Remember this is just general guidelines, and you can find a supermodel in Brazil, or hot GF sex in Colombia, it's just not like that on a GENERAL basis.
In Brazil, it´s also alot easier to find nonpro and have GFE in a P4P enviroment.
Alos, if you want beaches and sex at the same time, Cartagena or any other beachtown of Colombia cant even hold a candle versus Rio, Fortaleza or even Salvador.
I would still recommend a trip to Colombia and other countries around the world. It just adds more flavor to the experience.
Happy hunting, Ken Apples.
(you know, like, theme restaurants, all beef, fish & chips, etc..)
I am wondering if the termas have themes, such as women with long black hair and brown eyes only or, perhaps, conversely, nothing but blond Brazilians?
I've never been Brazil, but from reading through reports I do not sense any such thing.
It sounds like one chooses a terma on location, price, and reputations of specific providers, if they're working on the day you're there.
[QUOTE=Pelongera](you know, like, theme restaurants, all beef, fish & chips, etc..)
I am wondering if the termas have themes, such as women with long black hair and brown eyes only or, perhaps, conversely, nothing but blond Brazilians?
I've never been Brazil, but from reading through reports I do not sense any such thing.
It sounds like one chooses a terma on location, price, and reputations of specific providers, if they're working on the day you're there.[/QUOTE]
Solarium does theme nights, schoolgirl, office,etc, every once in a while. If you register with them they send emails informing when they are on. Monte Carlo also sends out special offers to you if you register, usually free entrance, but you have to bring the printed out mail with you.
What is the culturally acceptable way to handle the situation in the Termas when the Brasileira promises completa in boite and refuses anal in cabine, at a place like L'uomo for example, where Ane did the bait and switch?
If L'uomo ran like some full service parlor in the Estados, I'd walk out of the cabine and go tell the manager I'm not sessioning and not paying for the session since it was bait and switch. No problem. Then I'd go find a different girl until I got what I was paying for. I fear a scene if I tried this in Brasil, maybe even a backroom beating or call to policia. I have no idea what happens if you enter session and won't/can't pay. So I held back the urge to leave the cabine and made do with just the boca and buceta.
What is the culturally acceptable way to handle the situation in the Termas when the Brasileira promises completa in boite and refuses anal in cabine, at a place like L'uomo for example, where Ane did the bait and switch?
If L'uomo ran like some full service parlor in the Estados, I'd walk out of the cabine and go tell the manager I'm not sessioning and not paying for the session since it was bait and switch. No problem. Then I'd go find a different girl until I got what I was paying for. I fear a scene if I tried this in Brasil, maybe even a backroom beating or call to policia. I have no idea what happens if you enter session and won't/can't pay. So I held back the urge to leave the cabine and made do with just the boca and buceta.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]What is the culturally acceptable way to handle the situation in the Termas when the Brasileira promises completa in boite and refuses anal in cabine, at a place like L'uomo for example, where Ane did the bait and switch?
If L'uomo ran like some full service parlor in the Estados, I'd walk out of the cabine and go tell the manager I'm not sessioning and not paying for the session since it was bait and switch. No problem. Then I'd go find a different girl until I got what I was paying for. I fear a scene if I tried this in Brasil, maybe even a backroom beating or call to policia. I have no idea what happens if you enter session and won't/can't pay. So I held back the urge to leave the cabine and made do with just the boca and buceta.[/QUOTE]
What would you do if you ordered steak and fries and they only came with the fries and said steaks off? Don't make a scene and get all loud about it, just complain politely to her and say you would like to cancel the session. Just don't get loud with her. It's all a game, the threat of refusal to session will probably change the girls attitude. If she still refuses go to the management.
As a beach tout once said with a smile after trying to stitch me up unsuccessfully " faz parte de esporte". Just as long as you keep your cool there will be no hard feelings.
I'm mostly a lurker, but couldn't just pass it up without letting everyone know. AA website lists this price, at least for 09/01-09/08, but other dates are also available. I got all the way down to a book button, so I doubt it's just a glitch. It pains me that I can't go, but maybe some of you, guys, can take advantage of this. As with all those air sales, one would be advised to act quickly if you want it. Good luck!
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I have moved the last several pages of discussion that was posted here to another thread in this forum titled "Brazilian Music and Dance".
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3056[/url]
This "Thread Splitting" process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently moved/did not move a few reports. If you find that your own report was also moved/not moved, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Hi everyone,
I'm planning my first trip to Rio N guess what well maybe some of you know it but the book is all about Rio. (don't blame it on Rio) 2009 by Jewel Woods N Karen Hunter very interesting book about men that go to Rio, Well the book was made for the black men but I guess white male too could read the book.
I just buy the book today.
Enjoy
Man I wouldn't pay a squirt of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] for that book. If that book is anything like the Essence article he wrote a couple of years ago than it's nonesense. You are better off reading the trip reports on this site for a better feel of what Rio is all about. He makes it appear as if mongering in Rio is unique to just the blackman, when in fact we are a very small minority there. Certain weeks you might see more blacks guys than usual but not that often. Other races/ nationalities outnumber blacks by far and have been doing this for decades. This tool even caused some problems for some of the fellas with their significant other when the article came out in 2006 or so.
Since you bought it already enjoy it like any other book of fiction, but don't take too much from it as far as good info/intel on what's going on in Rio. Please keep it away from the sistas at home, we have it hard enough here in the states LOL. Unless I found that book in the library or it was given to me, I would be damn to support this dude with book sales after trying to throw the brothas under the bus with that biased hit piece.
Let me know if I'm wrong about the contents of the book since I have not read it, but I have read the article and heard this guy on the radio promoting the book. Also back when this first broke a lot of guys on this and the other monger site wrote into the Essence forum disputing what this guy wrote in the article.
Good luck planning your trip.
[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Hi everyone,
I'm planning my first trip to Rio N guess what well maybe some of you know it but the book is all about Rio. (don't blame it on Rio) 2009 by Jewel Woods N Karen Hunter very interesting book about men that go to Rio, Well the book was made for the black men but I guess white male too could read the book.
I just buy the book today.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
You would be better off to buy this book:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Calvin-Hobbes-Tenth-Anniversary-Book/dp/0836204387/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247016152&sr=8-3[/url]
See the example attached. Losers like Jewel Woods are all hype, no substance.
Any day now I expect to see a reality show about making reality shows.
[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Hi everyone,
I'm planning my first trip to Rio N guess what well maybe some of you know it but the book is all about Rio. (don't blame it on Rio) 2009 by Jewel Woods N Karen Hunter very interesting book about men that go to Rio, Well the book was made for the black men but I guess white male too could read the book.
I just buy the book today.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
Before you leave, take that book back and get your money back. That is unless you like reading propaganda.
[quote=Dub624]Before you leave, take that book back and get your money back. That is unless you like reading propaganda.[/quote]
[quote=Exec Talent]You would be better off to buy this book:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Calvin-Hobbes...47016152&sr=8-3[/url]
See the example attached. Losers like Jewel Woods are all hype, not substance.
Any day now I expect to see a reality show about making reality shows.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Ee2002]Man I wouldn't pay a squirt of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] for that book. If that book is anything like the Essence article he wrote a couple of years ago than it's nonesense. You are better off reading the trip reports on this site for a better feel of what Rio is all about. He makes it appear as if mongering in Rio is unique to just the blackman, when in fact we are a very small minority there. Certain weeks you might see more blacks guys than usual but not that often. Other races/ nationalities outnumber blacks by far and have been doing this for decades. This tool even caused some problems for some of the fellas with their significant other when the article came out in 2006 or so.
Since you bought it already enjoy it like any other book of fiction, but don't take too much from it as far as good info/intel on what's going on in Rio. Please keep it away from the sistas at home, we have it hard enough here in the states LOL. Unless I found that book in the library or it was given to me, I would be damn to support this dude with book sales after trying to throw the brothas under the bus with that biased hit piece.
Let me know if I'm wrong about the contents of the book since I have not read it, but I have read the article and heard this guy on the radio promoting the book. Also back when this first broke a lot of guys on this and the other monger site wrote into the Essence forum disputing what this guy wrote in the article.
Good luck planning your trip.[/QUOTE]Talk about posts lacking substance!
That book may very well be trash, but we learn nothing about the book from these three blowhards.
Truly Christopherd, I'd get more out of a list of proxy IP addresses.
Unbelievable
[QUOTE=Ee2002]Man I wouldn't pay a squirt of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] for that book. If that book is anything like the Essence article he wrote a couple of years ago than it's nonesense. You are better off reading the trip reports on this site for a better feel of what Rio is all about. He makes it appear as if mongering in Rio is unique to just the blackman, when in fact we are a very small minority there. Certain weeks you might see more blacks guys than usual but not that often. Other races/ nationalities outnumber blacks by far and have been doing this for decades. This tool even caused some problems for some of the fellas with their significant other when the article came out in 2006 or so.
Since you bought it already enjoy it like any other book of fiction, but don't take too much from it as far as good info/intel on what's going on in Rio. Please keep it away from the sistas at home, we have it hard enough here in the states LOL. Unless I found that book in the library or it was given to me, I would be damn to support this dude with book sales after trying to throw the brothas under the bus with that biased hit piece.
Let me know if I'm wrong about the contents of the book since I have not read it, but I have read the article and heard this guy on the radio promoting the book. Also back when this first broke a lot of guys on this and the other monger site wrote into the Essence forum disputing what this guy wrote in the article.
Good luck planning your trip.[/QUOTE]I have that bullshit excuse of a book, and trust me you are 100% correct.
It's nothing but sensationalized yellow journalism at it's best(or worst).
Jewel Woods tries to put the brothers out there. The black men that have the means to travel and enjoy what the world offers. The truth of the matter is that the percentage of black men that are able to make such trips are quite small.
Whatever man.....fuck that author and his lame ass book.
[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Hi everyone,
I'm planning my first trip to Rio N guess what well maybe some of you know it but the book is all about Rio. (don't blame it on Rio) 2009 by Jewel Woods N Karen Hunter very interesting book about men that go to Rio, Well the book was made for the black men but I guess white male too could read the book.
I just buy the book today.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
This must be a new edition. The book is ok. A quick read. You will probably enjoy the book since you have yet to experience Rio firsthand. Are you going to read it on the flight? That might be fun!
If you have been to Rio once you will know more than can be derived from this book. The attempt to draw a conncection between a very small percentage of black men (would be same for white) who can afford to travel to Rio, have the time to travel to Rio, and then are so inclined, with black male-female relationships in the US is a stretch!
The parts about pornography/hip hop and black male images of Rio BEFORE they arrive is somewhat informative. But again I say this because this section informs of what some people think of Rio before coming. Once on the ground things change.
A more informative book would be one that focuses on longterm "repeat offenders" who have become disabused of their prior images but continue to "offend", so to speak.
There is actually a much better book about Sosua, DR out there. In fact, I am suspicious that Woods and Hunter looked at that book before penning this one.
Here is the DR book: [url]http://www.amazon.com/What-rsquo-Love-Got-Transnational/dp/0822332973/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247072801&sr=1-1[/url]
TJ
[QUOTE=Pelongera]Talk about posts lacking substance!
That book may very well be trash, but we learn nothing about the book from these three blowhards.
Truly Christopherd, I'd get more out of a list of proxy IP addresses.
Unbelievable[/QUOTE]
And your not going to learn anything about it from me, since I don't intend to buy it. Why don't you buy it and enlighten us wiseguy.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]
Truly Christopherd, I'd get more out of a list of proxy IP addresses.[/QUOTE]
Hey - I know what you mean but please leave me out of it - never said a word, and I'm not the person to ask about proxies. Apart from Bubba's guide and Sperto's maps any other stuff is personal choice. Who's never wasted a few bucks on overhyped stuff when excited about travelling somewhere for the first time? Big deal eh? But given the size and comparative complexity of Rio I'm surprised no-one gets (an also overpiced) Lonely Planet Rio (dirt cheap pirate copies of Lonely Planets in Cambodia btw) so they know in advance subway coverage, distances and so on. But Quackup has just given an exemplary account of doing high end Rio from scratch in a few days. When someone's thinking pussy, getting them to stay on-thread is like saying 'hold on' on a bucking bronco. I've tried it. Doesn't work. Why should I care? ;) :D
Anybody have a reliable site to access GPguia.net from outside of Brazil please?
Thanks
I just tried this from UK and worked fine (though slow):
201.92.253.33 port 3128 anonymous
Although I had one from before and it no longer works, so they change them a lot. If one proxy server doesn't work try another one from this list:
[url]http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html[/url]
(Look for ones that say Brazil).
I posted this in the SP thread:
You have to change your web browser connection settings and manually set them. If you don't know how, Google search for detailed instructions on how to do that.
I got it to work on Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox using Mexican proxy: 201.147.20.245
port setting: 80 (so i don't have to configure the firewalls.)
It's possible that this proxy may stop working. If so, Google search for a proxy that is anonymous.
FYI: gpguia was hacked into a few months back from outside Brazil. They've blocked access from outside Brazil since then.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Does anyone know the current price for Cialis in Copa farmicias?
I'm on limited mongering time, so need to turn a 2 shot game into 4/night fast foda. I'll be looking for a farmicia near Metro & L'uomo.[/QUOTE]Currently at any drogaria Pacheco's in Rio Janeiro; two 50 mg package: $49.00 R$ The package of four 50 mg is 86 R$, reais.
Use with moderation your member may falloff. rsrsrsrrsrssr have fun and tell us about it!
Thanks for the infos on this
I think he may have potential..
Gentlemen:
Quick question about Brazilian visas. I have one. It's good for another few years. However my passport is now within 6 months of expiration.
Can I keep using the existing visa? Or does Brazilian consulates require a new one?
Many thanks in advance for any information.
DaveWave
Don't know if this is random or a pattern. I recently found a lot of errors on the bills at the Termas. Seems like this problem is common at all the Termas. For this month alone, I found at least for bills coming out to my favor (I got five drinks - a few for the girls and one for myself but none of that showed up on my bill), then two bills came against me (drinks charged to me but not of me which I called the manager and he corrected that).
Definitely read your bills at Termas.
[quote=trippleecks]i think he may have potential.[/quote]2 things.1. sarkozy looks amused in the pic. is he looking at the girl or at yobama looking at the girl.
2. woohooo. obama gives speeches and apoligizes (yet again), the stock market goes down (yet again). but the exchange with the real is moving in our favor. at least he's having one good affect.
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
Quick question about Brazilian visas. I have one. It's good for another few years. However my passport is now within 6 months of expiration.
Can I keep using the existing visa? Or does Brazilian consulates require a new one?
Many thanks in advance for any information.
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
No problem, travel with both passports and you will be fine.
[QUOTE=Johan]Don't know if this is random or a pattern. I recently found a lot of errors on the bills at the Termas. Seems like this problem is common at all the Termas. For this month alone, I found at least for bills coming out to my favor (I got five drinks - a few for the girls and one for myself but none of that showed up on my bill), then two bills came against me (drinks charged to me but not of me which I called the manager and he corrected that).
Definitely read your bills at Termas.[/QUOTE]
Twice that I went to Luomo I was over charged for drinks, never at 4x4 or 502.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Twice that I went to Luomo I was over charged for drinks, never at 4x4 or 502.[/QUOTE]
I have seen incidents of over charging for drinks at 4 x 4 as well. Its common in various places. Even more common when you are a tourist :) Just becareful guys.
As stated before, take both passports with you and you will be fine. One key point to remember, when you go to renew your passport, make sure that at the Passport office they don't damage the page on the old passport containing your Brasil visa. That's crucial. Remember that!
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
Quick question about Brazilian visas. I have one. It's good for another few years. However my passport is now within 6 months of expiration.
Can I keep using the existing visa? Or does Brazilian consulates require a new one?
Many thanks in advance for any information.
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
During my last trip, I was once overcharged at MC by about 60 reais. Since I was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk, didn't realize it until the next day. The next time I went, I spoke with the guy at reception that speaks fluent English and mentioned it to him (forgot his name, Eduardo mabye? but he is very cool and super helfpul) and he apologized for it and waved the entry fee for me that day.
So there are still some decent places out there. Or that could depend on the person and or your people skills along your portuguese.
[QUOTE=Mangera]I have seen incidents of over charging for drinks at 4 x 4 as well. Its common in various places. Even more common when you are a tourist :) Just becareful guys.[/QUOTE]
Turns out the woman in this photo is actually a young girl. A 16 year old Brazilian girl from Rio de Janeiro. Come on Barack, a monger is one thing but a 16 year old girl is something else.
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10937/1/[/url]
He was seen getting very close to her again a short while later.. see photo below.
Hello,
Is Discoteca still opened?
Thks
[QUOTE=Trippleecks]Turns out the woman in this photo is actually a young girl. A 16 year old Brazilian girl from Rio de Janeiro. Come on Barack, a monger is one thing but a 16 year old girl is something else.
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10937/1/[/url]
He was seen getting very close to her again a short while later.. see photo below.[/QUOTE]Take your B.S. elsewhere, Trippleecks.
And don't post anymore stock photos.
It mucks up an otherwise excellent gallery.
[QUOTE=Trippleecks]Turns out the woman in this photo is actually a young girl. A 16 year old Brazilian girl from Rio de Janeiro. Come on Barack, a monger is one thing but a 16 year old girl is something else.
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10937/1/[/url]
He was seen getting very close to her again a short while later.. see photo below.[/QUOTE]
Well it WAS an ass and a half!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maV2Zg5_uz0&feature=related[/url]
Is it possible to rent an automatic in Copa? Unfortunately, I don't know how to drive a stick, so I need to get an automatic. Do they come with GPS systems too?
[QUOTE=Bravo]Is it possible to rent an automatic in Copa? Unfortunately, I don't know how to drive a stick, so I need to get an automatic. Do they come with GPS systems too?[/QUOTE]
Clutch challenged adult male? Kkkkk. Just kidding, I couldn't resist. Yes, you can rent automatic and yes GPS is available as an option. On Ave Princess Isabel you will find Avis, Hertz, Budget and Localiza all within the same block.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Is it possible to rent an automatic in Copa? Unfortunately, I don't know how to drive a stick, so I need to get an automatic. Do they come with GPS systems too?[/QUOTE]I always get an automatic with gps at Hertz. It´s a good idea to make the deal over internet before traveling and then go directly to the Hertz counter at the airport.
With Hertz, GPS is an optional. They will send you an email confirming the GPS availability.
[QUOTE=Gruhmbards]I always get an automatic with gps at Hertz. It´s a good idea to make the deal over internet before traveling and then go directly to the Hertz counter at the airport.
With Hertz, GPS is an optional. They will send you an email confirming the GPS availability.[/QUOTE]
Gruhmbards, How much was the rate per day and what type of car? Do you find you get a better rate over the internet than if you walked into the office? My friend said it was best to send a brasilian in to work out the price, because she could get a better rate, than the special gringo price they have.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Gruhmbards, How much was the rate per day and what type of car? Do you find you get a better rate over the internet than if you walked into the office? My friend said it was best to send a brasilian in to work out the price, because she could get a better rate, than the special gringo price they have.[/QUOTE]Bravo:
My last rental was a Group P4, Model VECTRA ELEG SEDAN AU as specified in the invoice.
The rate was 156 reales per day. They invoice the GPS on another note that I cant find at this time, but it was something around 10 reales per day.
My own experience sending a Brasilian to work out the price, or to work the reservation prior to my arrival is not good. I want to be clear that I am speaking about MY experience.
When this happened I did get a better price, but when I arrived to the booth I was requested to sign an "extension driver contract" and charged for that.
Also, and this is very important, many times when you make internet reservations it happens that when you arrive they don`t have the type of car you signed for, and you get a free upgrade (this happens mostly in GIG and in GRU).
I know that there are cheaper rates with other rental companies and I do have friends that use them. They don`t have a place at the airport and I don`t know if they deliver the car at GIG or if you can leave it there.
I have these other references that I used some times (don`t remember if they have auto or GPS):
(21) 3257-3700 - LOCABARRA, in Barra da Tijuca, they hava a 3 day minimum rental period but prices are good.
(21) 7835-7791 - TELECAR, they are located in Copacabana. I remember they deliver cars for the hotels near by.
Pelongera.... Kiss my ass. I'll post what I want.
hi,
for those who have visited both rio and ba.
before i subscribe to the argentina section, does anybody know if there is an equilalent of helpee in buenos aires? i. e. club scene with p4p action?
any advice much appreciated.
thanks,
john
[QUOTE=John Starkie]....For those who have visited both Rio and BA...[/QUOTE]
John maybe I can help, so far I was 2 months in Brazil in last january/february and then I moved for 2 weeks to BsAs. ( you can find my posts with the same nickname as here in Argentina private).
My suggest is...do not go to BsAs as for me it does surely not worth !
I tried more or less almost all the clubs listed in Argentina private and IMHO argentinian girls, even if a bit, but only a bit more beautiful than brazilian one are million times more cold and selfish.
The only 2 real things Argentina wins Vs Brazil is the quality of meat, steak are great and that it is much safer, but if I could go back, I'd spend 2 whole months only in Rio as termas girls, for service, attitude, beauty are the best I saw in 60 days. Yes in south of Brazil, if you are as me into slavic type girls, you can find better girls as beauty but much more expensive prices as there are no terma at all, only clubs where you pay to get into, you have to pay some lady drinks, then to pay taixa de saida, to take girl out, and then finally to pay the girl too.
So IMHO who wins between Rio and BsAs....for me there is no match/challenge at all.
Actually I am thinking to try Colombia, if not again to Rio, but for sure never again to Argentina.
If you have other questions and I can help you, I am here.
Cheers
For BA I recommend joining the other forum. You definitey benefit from all the reports and advice. The guys are very active there and write good reports.
As far as I can remember there is no P4P club the size of Help (from what I read). There are a couple of free joints and a few famous boites (expensive drinks and barfine) and then you have the vast/quality privado scene.
To be honest I found BA chicas a bit stuck up, my best time was with chicas from Paraguay, Dominican Rep., Uruguay and Brazil while I was in BA!? funny that...
I wrote a couple of reports there under this same user name.
(Edited: Funny I wrote this at the same time as Lukasek and it's so similar..!)
Ditto last two reports on BA. Matches my experience to a T. Go to BA for tango, culture, steaks, or to juggle a six month limit returning to Brasil.
Thanks for the info guys.
Think I'll keep my stay in BA to a couple of days before moving on back to Rio.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Ditto last two reports on BA. Matches my experience to a T. Go to BA for tango, culture, steaks, or to juggle a six month limit returning to Brasil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Ditto last two reports on BA. Matches my experience to a T. Go to BA for tango, culture, steaks, or to juggle a six month limit returning to Brasil.[/QUOTE]There's spectacular high-end talent in Argentina. take a pass if you're not carrying the coin or are the type looking for it on the cheap, or easily satisfied with the run of the mill.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]There's spectacular high-end talent in Argentina. take a pass if you're not carrying the coin or are the type looking for it on the cheap, or easily satisfied with the run of the mill.[/QUOTE]
This is true. And you get women with sophistication and finesse. They can be very 'European' compared to the earthiness of Brasilian girls. But boy, do you pay for it! It's a very different vibe to Brasil. Do both and compare if you have time - overland thru Uruguay and boat is quite nice. But there is not the sheer quantity, variety and full-bloodiedness of Brasil. There's nowhere like Brasil.
IMO ;) ;) ;)
Only thing good for mongering in Argentina is the exchange rate which makes it relatively cheaper than brazil. When I went there and had sessions with brazilian girls working in Buenos Aires it was average which would make it hard for them to find clients in Brazil. But if you can speak spanish but not portuguese that is a big factor also.
Sorry to disappoint, but here's the video:
[url]http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/media-matters-karl-frish-breaks-down-obama[/url]
Sarkozy, on the other hand? Total dog!
[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]Sorry to disappoint, but here's the video:
[url]http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/media-matters-karl-frish-breaks-down-obama[/url][/QUOTE]Well, Rubio, I think you are clearly not as big a horn-dog as me, or dare I say, Barack. That is one of the oldest tricks in the book when it comes to checking out a bunda. I disagree with Barack on almost all of his politics but we can agree on Brazilian bunda!
[QUOTE=Christopherd] And you get women with sophistication and finesse. They can be very 'European' compared to the earthiness of Brasilian girls.[/QUOTE]Earthiness? And where would afro-Brazilian percussions fit in this Euro-centric definitions of 'sophistication'?
Truly, who among us would trade one night fucking a Brazilian girl who fucks to rhythms of Brazil for one night with any female from Europe?
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]latineuro Colombia vs Brazil
I have to say I have seen better women on the colombia ads than brazil as of late. I know this is not a full indication of brazil vs colombia its strickly what I see on the site.[/QUOTE]As of late the girls of Columbia have been out ranking the Brazilian girls. Even my friend have said that as of late the girls and talent in Brazil have taken a nose dive. It has been on a down ward spiral as of the past couple of years. Look at the pics in latin-euro and even on this site.
Where can I find it. I did a search to no avail.
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Where can I find it. I did a search to no avail.[/QUOTE]
Oakwood99,
Try this link:
[post]875442[/post]
I guess it really does need its own section, like Bubba Boy's guide.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]
I guess it really does need its own section, like Bubba Boy's guide.[/QUOTE]
Have suggested as much several times to Jackson but he hasn't bitten so I've given up. At the rate BA85 is getting gringo-ised as we make it so accessible tho I might even have to give that a miss. Brasilians are at least thin enough to pass on the stairs and don't have serious body-contact issues with other males the way most of us Westerners do.
I was trying to renew my visa for my next trip and found that the Brazilian consulate now uses an online visa form that you must fill out. However when I clicked on the link to the form, this is what I got:
Secure Connection Failed
scedv.serpro.gov.br uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted.
(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)
* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server.
* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later.
I tried another consulate and got the same message. Anyone else had any experience with this? I called the consulate and they told me that I could come and use their computer.
[QUOTE=Cho 637]I was trying to renew my visa for my next trip and found that the Brazilian consulate now uses an online visa form that you must fill out. However when I clicked on the link to the form, this is what I got:
Secure Connection Failed
scedv.serpro.gov.br uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted.
(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)
* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server.
* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later.
I tried another consulate and got the same message. Anyone else had any experience with this? I called the consulate and they told me that I could come and use their computer.[/QUOTE]That's just your browser telling you that it cannot verify the website. what browser are you using?
On my computer, Safari allows me to click past the warning.
But my settings on Firefox are such that it won't let me either.
Somehow, you'll have tell your browser that the site is okay.
Try adding the URL as an exception.
I believe that you have to lessen the level of security protection in your computer. Mine is set up so that I get a warning, but then can decide to go forward and still visit the site. So I got a non-validated site warning, told my computer to ignore it, and went ahead and filled out the form. It worked great. I was also using Mozilla, not Explorer.
I'm sure someone with more computer experience than I have can tell you more...
[QUOTE=Cho 637]I was trying to renew my visa for my next trip and found that the Brazilian consulate now uses an online visa form that you must fill out. However when I clicked on the link to the form, this is what I got:
Secure Connection Failed
scedv.serpro.gov.br uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted.
(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)
* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server.
* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later.
I tried another consulate and got the same message. Anyone else had any experience with this? I called the consulate and they told me that I could come and use their computer.[/QUOTE]
Cho,
I had the same issue several months back while using firefox. I switched to IE and was able to complete the online process. The good news for me... I was given a 5-year visa.
Lonzof
[QUOTE=Lonzof]Cho,
I had the same issue several months back while using firefox. I switched to IE and was able to complete the online process. The good news for me... I was given a 5-year visa.
Lonzof[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. I am using Firefox. The site asked me if I wanted to make an exception, I wasn't sure if I should. I'm very paranoid about identity theft.
[QUOTE=Delecti]I believe that you have to lessen the level of security protection in your computer. Mine is set up so that I get a warning, but then can decide to go forward and still visit the site. So I got a non-validated site warning, told my computer to ignore it, and went ahead and filled out the form. It worked great. I was also using Mozilla, not Explorer.
I'm sure someone with more computer experience than I have can tell you more...[/QUOTE]
You are right. You can lessen the security also on IE and bypass the warning.
The "unsecure" certificate comes also from the USA visa website.
I think it is a pretty much common setting of those gov sites so that they do not cross certificates by default and who knows what other settings they are able to arrange on their own servers.
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the advice. I am using Firefox. The site asked me if I wanted to make an exception, I wasn't sure if I should. I'm very paranoid about identity theft.[/QUOTE]If you go to Bank of America's website, you'll notice in the lower, right hand corner of your firefox browser that there is a little lock. Hover over the lock and you see a pop-up message that says 'verisign, ' which is a service (a separate company) that purports to authenticate websites. Double click on the lock to view the certificate it essentially sold BofA.
BofA's IT people have submitted their website for authentication to verisign, which Firefox recognizes as authoritative.
The Brazilian consolate, on the other hand, has chosen to "authenticate" its website with a service that Firefox (and Safari) does not validate, i.e. "trust," which may be for the simple reason that the authenticating service the Brazilians chose was not American.
Your instincts are right not to submit personal information. And whenever you are in doubt, start by looking for the letter 's' in the URL after http and then the lock in the lower right.
That's as much as you can do online.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]If you go to Bank of America's website, you'll notice in the lower, right hand corner of your firefox browser that there is a little lock. Hover over the lock and you see a pop-up message that says 'verisign, ' which is a service (a separate company) that purports to authenticate websites. Double click on the lock to view the certificate it essentially sold BofA.
BofA's IT people have submitted their website for authentication to verisign, which Firefox recognizes as authoritative.
The Brazilian consolate, on the other hand, has chosen to "authenticate" its website with a service that Firefox (and Safari) does not validate, i.e. "trust," which may be for the simple reason that the authenticating service the Brazilians chose was not American.
Your instincts are right not to submit personal information. And whenever you are in doubt, start by looking for the letter 's' in the URL after http and then the lock in the lower right.
That's as much as you can do online.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the "s" is in http.
Came across the following on facebook.............
"Free access code for wiress - Mostly good on LAX or SF Trips to NYC and vice-versa but they are installing on MD80's which are the Chicago and Dallas flights from LA and in between in the next few months - Code is AAWiFi80208A2"
Hope someone can use this.
ryjer
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Visa question
My Brasil visa is up oct 14 09.
If I set up a trip Oct 10 09 to Oct 17 09, what do I do?[/QUOTE]
Your visa must be valid for six months from your date of arrival or you will not be allowed entry. Renew it now, there's plenty of time before you go.
Also your passport needs to be valid for six more months after the date you arrive.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Your visa must be valid for six months from your date of arrival or you will not be allowed entry. Renew it now, there's plenty of time before you go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Your visa must be valid for six months from your date of arrival or you will not be allowed entry. Renew it now, there's plenty of time before you go.[/QUOTE]Not true. It is your passport that needs 6 more months.
[QUOTE=Edward M]Not true. It is your passport that needs 6 more months.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]You mean to tell me if I go for 1 week in september before it expires I still have to renew it? I am only staying 1 week not 6 months. I know its not your rules but their are backwards if this is the case. Just another way to pay back the corrupt usa for all thw problems they cause when brazilians come over.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I experienced the exact same situation in 2005 and was advised by the Consulate to renew my visa. Perhaps others have not had a problem with this issue. Unfortunately you must deal with three different entities to enter the country, the Consulate, the airlines, and the DPF, all of which have authority and discretion to delay or deny your entry.
I'm not sure if this question has been asked/answered before, but can anyone tell me the process of setting up the pool table goes. A quick overview of the game in Brazil would also be helpful.
thanks.........ryjer
Can anyone tell me if the "daily" vitamin c (2.5-5mg) is sold in Rio?
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Can anyone tell me if the "daily" vitamin c (2.5-5mg) is sold in Rio?[/QUOTE]
The recommended daily dosage for an adult is 75 - 90mg. You can get that from an 8 oz glass of orange juice. If you want the infant dosage (2.5 - 5mg) you can try Redoxon, available in most farmacias and homeopathic lojas, e.g. Mundo Verde. It is in a liquid form. One drop = 1mg.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]The recommended daily dosage for an adult is 75 - 90mg. You can get that from an 8 oz glass of orange juice. If you want the infant dosage (2.5 - 5mg) you can try Redoxon, available in most farmacias and homeopathic lojas, e.g. Mundo Verde. It is in a liquid form. One drop = 1mg.[/QUOTE]He means Cialis. And a pharmacy there offered me both the daily and the larger dose. I bought the larger dose, but break it up as needed.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]He means Cialis. And a pharmacy there offered me both the daily and the larger dose. I bought the larger dose, but break it up as needed.[/QUOTE]
I guess my attempted humor was too subtle. You sure he means Cialis? He previously posted this, [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844381&postcount=240[/url] :D
rsrsrs
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]I guess my attempted humor was too subtle. You sure he means Cialis? He previously posted this, [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844381&postcount=240[/url] :D
rsrsrs[/QUOTE]Bring some with you when you come from Asia -- or Colombia or anywhere else generic is availalble. Brazil respects no one else's copyrights, yet makes generic V and C unavailalbe on the domestic consumer market. Don't expect to find a 2-pack for less than 50 reales.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Bring some with you when you come from Asia -- or Colombia or anywhere else generic is availalble. Brazil respects no one else's copyrights, yet makes generic V and C unavailalbe on the domestic consumer market. Don't expect to find a 2-pack for less than 50 reales.[/QUOTE]
Poucoluco
You know what I meant! :)
Zingadoon
Are you saying that Brazil doesn't sale generic v or c? Just the opposite! Most places offer you a choice. Of course the brand name is more expensive. Do you guys know about the Cialis Promise program which give you a coupon good for free c (with prescription) if you tell them how much you like/dislike it?
[QUOTE=Cho 637]
\
... Zingadoon
Are you saying that Brazil doesn't sale generic v or c? Just the opposite! Most places offer you a choice. Of course the brand name is more expensive. Do you guys know about the Cialis Promise program which give you a coupon good for free c (with prescription) if you tell them how much you like/dislike it?[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm ... I've been to many pharmacies in Sao Paulo, they all say they DO NOT carry the low cost generic viagra in Brasil.
Like the other poster said, it runs about 50 BR for a two-pack at best.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Hmmmm ... I've been to many pharmacies in Sao Paulo, they all say they DO NOT carry the low cost generic viagra in Brasil.
Like the other poster said, it runs about 50 BR for a two-pack at best.[/QUOTE]
I should amend my statement. I've never inquired about Viagra. Gives me a TERRIBLE headache.
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Poucoluco
You know what I meant! :)
Zingadoon
Are you saying that Brazil doesn't sale generic v or c? Just the opposite! Most places offer you a choice. Of course the brand name is more expensive. Do you guys know about the Cialis Promise program which give you a coupon good for free c (with prescription) if you tell them how much you like/dislike it?[/QUOTE]what I'm saying is this: sure, you may find it marketed under a generic name in Brazil , but, BUT priced the same as the branded version. Some choice! Lucky if you can get a 2-pack of V for 50 reales, even if you ask for and get the courtesy discount (5%) at Drogaries Discount (cheapest chain pharmacy I've come across). Compare this to true generic viagra in many other countries - costa rica, colombia, thailand, and many other places in Asia.
Oi amigos,
I'd like to get some info about how much money I have to pay to my girl friend.
I often travel around the world, I know very well South America and never I have meet a stunner, wonderful morena girl. It is appening in Goiania. She is very sweet too. She is incredible for her sweetness. A real girl friend. What good luck!! She have a job and I am meeting her every day in the late afternoon. I will meet her 4-5 hours every day for 10 days. She has to pay its taxi or bus to meet me and she doesn't wish any money. She is a staunch real girl friend but .... I am worried. She probably will ask me to get Europa but I cannot agree.
At the end of my staying in Goiania I'd like to make a present of money.
In your opinion how much money could I give her for 10 days?
I am very worried!;) ;)
I thank you for your suggestions.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Oi amigos,
I'd like to get some info about how much money I have to pay to my girl friend.
I often travel around the world, I know very well South America and never I have meet a stunner, wonderful morena girl. It is appening in Goiania. She is very sweet too. She is incredible for her sweetness. A real girl friend. What good luck!! She have a job and I am meeting her every day in the late afternoon. I will meet her 4-5 hours every day for 10 days. She has to pay its taxi or bus to meet me and she doesn't wish any money. She is a staunch real girl friend but .... I am worried. She probably will ask me to get Europa but I cannot agree.
At the end of my staying in Goiania I'd like to make a present of money.
In your opinion how much money could I give her for 10 days?
I am very worried!;) ;)
I thank you for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]
My friend.
If you propose her money you would insult her. Indeed, that would mean treating her like a w hore.
If she is a true girlfriend, then she has no price.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]My friend.
If you propose her money you would insult her. Indeed, that would mean treating her like a w hore.
If she is a true girlfriend, then she has no price.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
You are right! Really I am troubled by this relationship. What can I do? She like my notebook, could I buy it to her?
mmmm, some suggestions please. I wish to got away through the window. ;)
Then why not offer to take her somewhere on vacation. For example, pay for her trip to Paris and meet up with her there. Spend a few days there together. Go meet up in a country where it does not require a visa for her to get in, all she would need is her passport. Im sure she would love it. Get a chance to travel somewhere cool with a guy she likes.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Oi amigos,
I'd like to get some info about how much money I have to pay to my girl friend.
I often travel around the world, I know very well South America and never I have meet a stunner, wonderful morena girl. It is appening in Goiania. She is very sweet too. She is incredible for her sweetness. A real girl friend. What good luck!! She have a job and I am meeting her every day in the late afternoon. I will meet her 4-5 hours every day for 10 days. She has to pay its taxi or bus to meet me and she doesn't wish any money. She is a staunch real girl friend but .... I am worried. She probably will ask me to get Europa but I cannot agree.
At the end of my staying in Goiania I'd like to make a present of money.
In your opinion how much money could I give her for 10 days?
I am very worried!;) ;)
I thank you for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]
There is a standard formula for Girlfriend pricing in Brasil, sometimes called Namorada Valor. It is (^a * R$15 * t) where ^a = your age minus her age, and t = time in days. Thus if you are 50 and she is 25, ^a would be 25.
Therefore 25 * R$15 * 10 = R$3.750,00
You should also offer to pay her transportation cost.
:o
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]... She has to pay its taxi or bus to meet me and she doesn't wish any money. She is a staunch real girl friend but .... I am worried. She probably will ask me to get Europa but I cannot agree.
At the end of my staying in Goiania I'd like to make a present of money.
In your opinion how much money could I give her for 10 days?
I am very worried!;) ;)
I thank you for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]
Giving her taxi money would be a nice gesture.
Instead of giving her money as a present you could take her out to do some shopping at e.g C&A. Let her choose some nice new clothes.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]There is a standard formula for Girlfriend pricing in Brasil, sometimes called Namorada Valor. It is (^a * R$15 * t) where ^a = your age minus her age, and t = time in days. Thus if you are 50 and she is 25, ^a would be 25.
Therefore 25 * R$15 * 10 = R$3.750,00
You should also offer to pay her transportation cost.
:o[/QUOTE]
Nice formula, but I would prefer to change the R$15 to R$1,5. :)
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]There is a standard formula for Girlfriend pricing in Brasil, sometimes called Namorada Valor. It is (^a * R$15 * t) where ^a = your age minus her age, and t = time in days. Thus if you are 50 and she is 25, ^a would be 25.
Therefore 25 * R$15 * 10 = R$3.750,00
You should also offer to pay her transportation cost.
:o[/QUOTE]
Interesting, but I'm curious as to where you found this "standard formula," i.e., whose standard is it? This is a bit steep and would in fact bankrupt me rather quickly, given the age difference between the girl and me. When a girl has stayed with me for a whole week, I have traditionally given her US$1000 at the end of the week, plus all her meals during that week, plus transportation to wherever we might travel during that week (e.g., Ouro Preto, Diamantes, Buenos Aires), plus access to whatever entertainment we might indulge (movies, concerts, etc.). Bear in mind that she will be staying in a luxury hotel during that time. In return for this, she will be my companion and be available to meet my sexual needs during that time, including threesomes when the opportunity arises. I have never had a girl complain or ask for more. If she is a termas girl, this may come to less than she might make at the termas, but it is more like a working vacation for her, and she doesn't have to screw 4+ guys a night. Works for me, and I think for her as well.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]You are right! Really I am troubled by this relationship. What can I do? She like my notebook, could I buy it to her?
Some suggestions please. I wish to got a fromway through the window. ;)[/QUOTE]Have you NEVER had a girlfriend before, Man? Just because it's Brazil doesn't mean it works differently from anywhere else on the planet. Spend 10 days with someone, how can you not figure out what's what.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]There is a standard formula for Girlfriend pricing in Brasil, sometimes called Namorada Valor. It is (^a * R$15 * t) where ^a = your age minus her age, and t = time in days. Thus if you are 50 and she is 25, ^a would be 25.
Therefore 25 * R$15 * 10 = R$3.750,00
You should also offer to pay her transportation cost.
:o[/QUOTE]
Poucolouco,
is I will use that formula I will not get Europe from Brazil anymore because I will became a poor man. ;)
I am 56 old and sher 21 old. ;) ;)
I agree with you 100% with you Lorenzo, guys that give the gdps that kind of jack are suckers and thats why they ask for so much money. For some reason they want to give favela garotas ny prices.As many times as I go to Rio I cannot understand giving a puta that kind of money!! $375 a day + f&b.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Interesting, but I'm curious as to where you found this "standard formula," i.e., whose standard is it? This is a bit steep and would in fact bankrupt me rather quickly, given the age difference between the girl and me. When a girl has stayed with me for a whole week, I have traditionally given her US$1000 at the end of the week, plus all her meals during that week, plus transportation to wherever we might travel during that week (e.g., Ouro Preto, Diamantes, Buenos Aires), plus access to whatever entertainment we might indulge (movies, concerts, etc.). Bear in mind that she will be staying in a luxury hotel during that time. In return for this, she will be my companion and be available to meet my sexual needs during that time, including threesomes when the opportunity arises. I have never had a girl complain or ask for more. If she is a termas girl, this may come to less than she might make at the termas, but it is more like a working vacation for her, and she doesn't have to screw 4+ guys a night. Works for me, and I think for her as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]When a girl has stayed with me for a whole week, I have traditionally given her US$1000 at the end of the week, plus all her meals during that week, plus transportation to wherever we might travel during that week (e.g., Ouro Preto, Diamantes, Buenos Aires), plus access to whatever entertainment we might indulge (movies, concerts, etc.). Bear in mind that she will be staying in a luxury hotel during that time.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting suggestions, I thank you! I don't know Brazil and now I am noticing it is very expensie to fuck a real girl friend. The cost of the Heaven is too much high for me. I am very worried. ;)
When I have come to Brazil I didn't think about meeting a real girl friend and now this matter is upsetting me.
May be it is better to break off immediately this relationship or to follow the suggestions of Sperto. He recommend me to pay its taxi money and take her out to do some shopping, some nice new clothes. I hope it is sufficient.
I thanks yo!
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Very interesting suggestions, I thank you! I don't know Brazil and now I am noticing it is very expensie to fuck a real girl friend. The cost of the Heaven is too much high for me. I am very worried.
When I have come to Brazil I didn't think about meeting a real girl friend and now this matter is upsetting me.
May be it is better to break off immediately this relationship or to follow the suggestions of Sperto. He recommend me to pay its taxi money and take her out to do some shopping, some nice new clothes. I hope it is sufficient.
I thanks yo! [/QUOTE]If she is looking for a real relationship and hopes to get to come back to Europe with you she will be disappointed with anything else. Yeah, you can pay for her transportation, meals, entertainment and shopping trips and have a good time there. But you are aren't looking for a "girlfriend" per se if you only want to see her while you visit Brazil. And chances are she is looking for a trip to Europe. Either just enjoy the time you have with her as you currently have an arrangement to do. Or be honest and tell her you won't bring her to Europe and see what happens. You may find out she really likes your company or that she really wanted to get out of Brazil. Is that what you are worried about. Hearing that? You said you would be willing to break off the relationship immediately anyway. Why is it so hard to simply say what you feel and want. After all that is what being in a "relationship" is about. Otherwise, there are plenty of options for companionship in Brazil.
Brazilian men typically don't treat their women nowhere nearly as well as how an industrialized westerner would treat his lady. Your lady wants no money, but as all relationships cost money at the end anyway, I suggest you take her out to all her favorite places: bars, restaurants, and yes, shopping for some nice stuff. A nice dress, matching bag, and shoes should do nicely. Just keep doing whatever it is that you are doing. I bet she is having the time of her life also. Just avoid those wedding bells at all costs. Now that is expensive :D!!!
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Oi amigos,
I'd like to get some info about how much money I have to pay to my girl friend.
I often travel around the world, I know very well South America and never I have meet a stunner, wonderful morena girl. It is appening in Goiania. She is very sweet too. She is incredible for her sweetness. A real girl friend. What good luck!! She have a job and I am meeting her every day in the late afternoon. I will meet her 4-5 hours every day for 10 days. She has to pay its taxi or bus to meet me and she doesn't wish any money. She is a staunch real girl friend but .... I am worried. She probably will ask me to get Europa but I cannot agree.
At the end of my staying in Goiania I'd like to make a present of money.
In your opinion how much money could I give her for 10 days?
I am very worried!;) ;)
I thank you for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]
Hey foxeshunter,
I meet a girl from Goiania online and came to Brasil to spend a week with her. My experience is that she was not p4p there fore cash rewards for renting her body was not given, we were a couple. I paid for everything while she was with me. As mongers we become accustomed to thinking every girl is looking for money from us, its true in some ways. But not always.
Goinanians are very slowwwww people I am from New York we think, eat, sleep, walk and talk very fast. Her slowness really dragged me down and we had no chemistry. But one thing SHE WAS SWEET! A real Joy! When I came home she sent me an email asking for airfare from brasil to California to see her mother but I said no and that was the end of us. We both had other intentions. Your age difference sends up some red flags. An older foriengnor is viewed as rich with opportunitys. I suggest show her a Honeymoon experience and have some fun, pay for eveything then ask her if you can give her some money as a gift. Then throw her like some money but remember that once you pay her it changes the relationship forever.
Boa SOrte Amigo!
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Have you NEVER had a girlfriend before, Man? Just because it's Brazil doesn't mean it works differently from anywhere else on the planet. Spend 10 days with someone, how can you not figure out what's what.[/QUOTE]
Zingadoon,
I'm sorry but I don't like this reply at all.
1) Sure I like to spend money for a real girl friend but in Brazil
I don't know how much money I have to spend because I don't know Brazil.
2) It is the first time I meet a so wonderful girl. In the past time I
had some little relationship only.
3) In Europe I have a wife and a family and I don't like to get problems.....
but I will not meet anymore a so wonderful girl around the world. ;)
This meeting was irresistible and it is tangling me.
[QUOTE=Que Rico]Hey foxeshunter,
I meet a girl from Goiania online and came to Brasil to spend a week with her. My experience is that she was not p4p there fore cash rewards for renting her body was not given, we were a couple. I paid for everything while she was with me. As mongers we become accustomed to thinking every girl is looking for money from us, its true in some ways. But not always.
Goinanians are very slowwwww people I am from New York we think, eat, sleep, walk and talk very fast. Her slowness really dragged me down and we had no chemistry. But one thing SHE WAS SWEET! A real Joy! When I came home she sent me an email asking for airfare from brasil to California to see her mother but I said no and that was the end of us. We both had other intentions. Your age difference sends up some red flags. An older foriengnor is viewed as rich with opportunitys. I suggest show her a Honeymoon experience and have some fun, pay for eveything then ask her if you can give her some money as a gift. Then throw her like some money but remember that once you pay her it changes the relationship forever.
Boa SOrte Amigo![/QUOTE]
Hey Que RicoQue Rico,
I like your reply because it is a real suggestion. I think I will behave myself in this way. I will try to buy some gifts her and I will offer some money, I think 500 euro (I hope it is right).
Thanks a lot!
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]....
but I will not meet anymore a so wonderful girl around the world. ; ...[/QUOTE]
Never say never Fox, or in other words, check Russia too in your future travels ;)
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Zingadoon,
I'm sorry but I don't like this reply at all.
1) Sure I like to spend money for a real girl friend but in Brazil
I don't know how much money I have to spend because I don't know Brazil.
2) It is the first time I meet a so wonderful girl. In the past time I had some little relationship only.
3) In Europe I have a wife and a family and I don't like to get problems.
But I will not meet anymore a so wonderful girl around the world. This meeting was irresistible and it is tangling me.[/QUOTE]If you TRULY do not know a thing, then you'd better be careful. I've travelled all over Goiais.- in a rental car down potholed and dirt roads.- to places where the people had never seen a gringo. Show affection and appreciation to her family. Discover.- without asking.- what they need, and quietly make a present of it to them. Whatever you do, don't talk $$$. Last thing: don't play with their feelings.- They have NO sense of Irony.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]...
2) It is the first time I meet a so wonderful girl. In the past time I
had some little relationship only.
3) In Europe I have a wife and a family and I don't like to get problems.....
but I will not meet anymore a so wonderful girl around the world. ;)
This meeting was irresistible and it is tangling me.[/QUOTE]
Foxeshunter,
You are living a very typical situation found in Latin cultures. Just listen to this song from Teo Galindez "Dos mujeres en mi vida" . [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fKv4E4j_8[/url] (2 women in my life). I lived through the same thing. I travelled to Brazil for a few years, until my children were grown up, and now I am divorcing and coming for living here. Do not worry about the age difference. It is quite frequent in Brazil.
You must make your own life choice ... Apparently you have chosen to pay your way out, as cheaply as possible, so please do not let us hear more of your whining.
Regards.
B.B.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hey Que RicoQue Rico,
I like your reply because it is a real suggestion. I think I will behave myself in this way. I will try to buy some gifts her and I will offer some money, I think 500 euro (I hope it is right).
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Fox - This is the best advice do not give money give gifts instead; the best kind of gifts to give she will love and will benefit you as well! For example she likes your notebook, get her a notebook and she will use it to keep in communication with you via Skype, Instant Messaging and email, etc. You can also get her a nice cell phone; in our case probably the best kind of cell phone to get her is a Blackberry for one simple reason; Blackberry Messenger also known as "BBM"!
With BBM you can text back and forth free of charge; you yourself will also have to have a Blackberry, it works just like instant messaging but better and on your cell and it's free if you use Blackberry, better than having to pay SMS international fees!
But you get the idea buy her gifts that will help her keep in contact with you etc. and she will love to have all the new technology; you will not be setting the expectation of giving her money and she will think you really like her because you are giving her gifts to keep in touch! It works believe me!
[QUOTE=Musze3000]Fox - This is the best advice do not give money give gifts instead; the best kind of gifts to give she will love and will benefit you as well! For example she likes your notebook, get her a notebook and she will use it to keep in communication with you via Skype, Instant Messaging and email, etc. You can also get her a nice cell phone; in our case probably the best kind of cell phone to get her is a Blackberry for one simple reason; Blackberry Messenger also known as "BBM"!
With BBM you can text back and forth free of charge; you yourself will also have to have a Blackberry, it works just like instant messaging but better and on your cell and it's free if you use Blackberry, better than having to pay SMS international fees!
But you get the idea buy her gifts that will help her keep in contact with you etc. and she will love to have all the new technology; you will not be setting the expectation of giving her money and she will think you really like her because you are giving her gifts to keep in touch! It works believe me![/QUOTE]Blackberry gets sold in a heartbeat. (my prediction) to buy something the mother needs for the house. (is what I'd guess).
[QUOTE=Que Rico]Hey foxeshunter,
I meet a girl from Goiania online and came to Brasil to spend a week with her. My experience is that she was not p4p there fore cash rewards for renting her body was not given, we were a couple. I paid for everything while she was with me. As mongers we become accustomed to thinking every girl is looking for money from us, its true in some ways. But not always.
Goinanians are very slowwwww people I am from New York we think, eat, sleep, walk and talk very fast. Her slowness really dragged me down and we had no chemistry. But one thing SHE WAS SWEET! A real Joy! When I came home she sent me an email asking for airfare from brasil to California to see her mother but I said no and that was the end of us. We both had other intentions. Your age difference sends up some red flags. An older foriengnor is viewed as rich with opportunitys. I suggest show her a Honeymoon experience and have some fun, pay for eveything then ask her if you can give her some money as a gift. Then throw her like some money but remember that once you pay her it changes the relationship forever.
Boa SOrte Amigo![/QUOTE]I met a 50-plus y/o guy from NYC that met a 21 y/o hottie in Brazil. The guy was basically a loser with women here - he is the smothering and needy type. A real weaselly guy. At any rate, he goes to Rio, meets this hot young mother and next thing you know he was going there every other month, letting his business suffer, bought Nextel direct connect phones so they can talk 24/7 for cheap (and he could keep a leash on her activities when he is in the US), sent $ each month, was trying to get her and her son back here (and finding the going tough), and was talking about giving her another baby that she wanted. This 21 y/o trim was making him nuts! He was running around showing everyone her pictures - even if he just met someone - the pictures came out. His prized possession. Turns out, she thought he was a loser too and had a real boyfriend in Brazil too. Her cousin ratted her out - and now this guy is pursuing a relationship with her cousin.
Think things through with a clear head. And enjoy what you have in front of you. I have known other guys that had relationships with girls from other countries that were decades younger than them. And unless these guys were rich and showering them with $ - the relationships never lasted. It was a case of them wanting to get to the US and once they were here they saw their options. And the guys ended up bitter and trying to screw the girls over. Who needs that drama.
Get your wits about you man! If she likes you for who you are go with it, sure buy her some nice gifts if you want because you are saving on termas or paid pussy. If she wants more you'll find out soon enough.
Please wake up these are hookers only pay her R$100 then you have her. Then, make alittle drama (the right drama) then you have her a life time, getting deep discounts. If you are buying shit you are losing it sounds good but thats changes the game. I will or a person like me will f*ck for 75% less and spend more time with her. You know this wake up! Learn how to work your d*ck, Americans stay f*ucking up shit, dam!
P. S: I'm from New York, LOL
I've recently finished with a girl who casually asked me for a laptop 'to keep in touch.' She travelled a bit and I guess maybe a previous boyfriend gave her a blackberry or some such shit. My idea of an expensive present for someone is some nice flowers. The cost of anything I give should not embarrass her financially if she wanted to give me a present of equal value. Girlfriends are more likely to get small presents like this than girls I pay. If she's being paid, a present is no more than a tip. As such, it should be proportional to the fee. I dislike tipping generally. I only do it on rare occasions and when I am convinced it is definitely not expected.
[QUOTE=Avsmith01]Please wake up these are hookers only pay her R$100 then you have her. Then, make alittle drama (the right drama) then you have her a life time, getting deep discounts. If you are buying shit you are losing it sounds good but thats changes the game. I will or a person like me will f*ck for 75% less and spend more time with her. You know this wake up! Learn how to work your d*ck, Americans stay f*ucking up shit, dam!
P. S: I'm from New York, LOL[/QUOTE]
Blah, blah, blah..........................thanks for reminding us that they're hookers!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I've recently finished with a girl who casually asked me for a laptop 'to keep in touch.' She travelled a bit and I guess maybe a previous boyfriend gave her a blackberry or some such shit. My idea of an expensive present for someone is some nice flowers. The cost of anything I give should not embarrass her financially if she wanted to give me a present of equal value. Girlfriends are more likely to get small presents like this than girls I pay. If she's being paid, a present is no more than a tip. As such, it should be proportional to the fee. I dislike tipping generally. I only do it on rare occasions and when I am convinced it is definitely not expected.[/QUOTE]
If she is asking for a laptop, then she is a w*hore and worth dumping ...
BB
[QUOTE=Hughdad]... I have known other guys that had relationships with girls from other countries that were decades younger than them. And unless these guys were rich and showering them with $ - the relationships never lasted. It was a case of them wanting to get to the US and once they were here they saw their options. And the guys ended up bitter and trying to screw the girls over. Who needs that drama. ... .[/QUOTE]
Even with a big age difference, it can work. When it works, there is always a trade-off though : basically the woman exchanges an age difference for a wealthy lifestyle or a higher social position.
You don't need to go to Brazil to see that ... just look at the USA and especially Hollywood.
In Brazil, the higher social position can be translated in racial differences : a poor young pretinha will often be happy to marry an older white guy.
Regards
BB
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]If she is asking for a laptop, then she is a w*hore and worth dumping ...
BB[/QUOTE]
ROFL! Of course she is. I knew that already. She insisted I stop paying, that's all! I knew she would probably hold out for a bigger 'pay-off.' I felt there was no harm in acting in good faith while it lasted. :)
Hi evryone
I'm from Montreal city Canada here the escorts scene for exampe if I book 2 girls at the same time no problem but they won't have sex together (have to pay xtra) I would like to knoe if in general when you book a dupla its like a 3some or the same the girls won't have sex between them
Thank you
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Even with a big age difference, it can work. When it works, there is always a trade-off though : basically the woman exchanges an age difference for a wealthy lifestyle or a higher social position.
You don't need to go to Brazil to see that ... just look at the USA and especially Hollywood.
In Brazil, the higher social position can be translated in racial differences : a poor young pretinha will often be happy to marry an older white guy.
Regards,
BB[/QUOTE]Isn't that what I said - that unless the guy was wealthy and showering them with $ it did not work? And of course this is the same the world over, not just the USA and Hollywood. In Hollywood you also are seeing the opposite alot, older wealthy women with young guys. But I was addressing this guy's issue with his Brazilian "girlfirend". (He really doesn't have an issue at all - he just needs to figure out what she truly wants to continue to hang out with him and whether he wants to give it to her. He already said he would stop seeing her if it became too complicated, expensive or would fuck up his family life back home - but keeps saying he is twisted up inside by this sweet young thing.)
Poor people don't like being poor. It ain't fun. Doesn't mean they are going to love their sugardaddy or not go elsewhere for their real sexual gratification.
[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Hi evryone
I'm from Montreal city Canada here the escorts scene for exampe if I book 2 girls at the same time no problem but they won't have sex together (have to pay xtra) I would like to knoe if in general when you book a dupla its like a 3some or the same the girls won't have sex between them
Thank you[/QUOTE]
You must ask for that up front when calling the agency. If you don't, then you run the risk of them showing up and not having sex with each other. Many gdp's will have sex with each other, but you can not assume that all of them will.
Better to clear that up beforehand. You can have whatever you desire ( as long as you are willing to pay for it ), but you have to be clear as to what you want when speaking to the receptionist.
[QUOTE=Mangera]You must ask for that up front when calling the agency. If you don't, then you run the risk of them showing up and not having sex with each other. Many gdp's will have sex with each other, but you can not assume that all of them will.
Better to clear that up beforehand. You can have whatever you desire ( as long as you are willing to pay for it ), but you have to be clear as to what you want when speaking to the receptionist.[/QUOTE]And for a dupla in a termas you can ask the girl you are in primarily interested in which of the other girls she likes and has chemistry with. She can bring her over in the bar and you can all get to know one another and have some great pre-cabine foreplay and make-out sessions. On the few occassions when I did this at a termas I had a great time as the ladies were completely comfortable with each other. I also did a great 4-some at MC. 2 mulatas (BomBom and Luciana) and my sweet black friend Danubia (what an incredible ass she has). They called themselves my chocolate pussy posse. 3 beautiful shades of color. Was very helpful that they all were friends and comfortable with one another because in that situation you have to count on them helping to entertain one another. We hung out in the boite for an hour before going up and it was a complete turn-on to have each lady taking turns making out and groping me and making out with all 3 at the same time. We were oblivious to anyone else there and they were dancing for me and giving me semi-lapdances. We just all fell into the cabine and exploded into a great hour long orgy. Something everyone should experience once. At the very least!
Doing a dupla or more in a termas will be much more expensive than using one of the low-cost agencies back in your apartment. There are termas room costs, the ladies are each more expensive, and the drinks cost more (and seem to be getting more expensive all the time.) And with the R$ kickng the shit out of the dollar, it is getting more expensive everyday it seems. I did my 4-some when the dollar exchange was much more favorable and termas prices were lower. At an apartment, you can serve up your own drinks and obviously don't have room fees. But the girls at the termas work together for hours on end, day after day, and they develop friendships and flirt around with one another (and often have been together in a duplas before.) The agency girls often work solo. And you don't have the opportunity to see them and interact with them before they arrive. The hour in the boite before the session was great foreplay and really made for a great hour upstairs. It goes without saying that chemistry is really important in these situations. Of course, you get the agency girls for 2 hours, so you have your foreplay party session in the apartment too. Just be sure to make sure you have all your valuables put away.
Have fun!
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[QUOTE=OneKissMontreal]Hi evryone
I'm from Montreal city Canada here the escorts scene for exampe if I book 2 girls at the same time no problem but they won't have sex together (have to pay xtra) I would like to knoe if in general when you book a dupla its like a 3some or the same the girls won't have sex between them
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Most of the agencies have someone on staff who speaks English so it is best to ask. My advice is to first select a girl that you like. If things are going well, ask her to recommend another girl from the agency to join you. Usually they arrive in a very short time. Result, 1 hour with first girl then dupla for an hour and 1 hour with the second girl.
In duplas, there is a significant difference in the experience based upon the chemistry between the girls. Also, if you want the girls to interact, you might want to mention to the agency that you would like girls who enjoy sex with other women.
[quote]MIAMI – A Continental Airlines jet carrying 179 people from Brazil to Texas hit severe turbulence over the Atlantic early Monday, injuring at least 26 — including four seriously — and forcing an emergency landing in Miami, officials said.
One passenger said he felt Continental Flight 128 drop without warning while flight attendants were in the aisles, throwing some of them against the roof.
Houston-based Continental said there were 168 people and 11 crew on the Boeing 767. The airline released a statement that said the fasten seat belt sign was illuminated at the time and that about 28 passengers were treated in Miami.
Miami-Dade Fire Rescue spokesman Elkin Sierra said four people were seriously injured aboard the Boeing 767 and another 22 were in stable condition with bumps and bruises. A total of 13 people were taken to hospitals.
The plane was on a night flight from Rio de Janeiro to Houston. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said the turbulence struck about halfway between Puerto Rico and Grand Turk island, north of the Dominican Republic.
The plane reported hitting severe turbulence at 4:30 a.m. and landed safely at 5:30 a.m, at Miami International Airport Bergen said.
Passenger Fabio Ottolini of Houston said it was about 6 hours into the flight when he felt the aircraft suddenly drop.
"People didn't have time to do anything," he said.
Ottolini said flight attendents were serving items in the aisles when the turbulence hit. He said some flight attendenats were thrown against the roof of the cabin and may have been among those injured.
Rio was also the departure airport for Air France Flight 447 that crashed in the mid-Atlantic, more than 900 miles off Brazil's northeastern coast, in thunderstorms on June 1, killing all 228 people on board.
The FAA's Bergen cautioned against drawing any parallels and said the cause and severity of the turbulence in the Continental case was still being investigated. "I wouldn't draw any conclusions and comparisons," Bergen said.
Airport officials say some passengers were going on to Houston on various Continental flights about midday. He did not know when the remaining passengers would be expected to arrive in Houston.[/quote]
Just got my visa back from NYC consulate and got the 5 year one --- yeah!
Curious: Is 5 years now the norm for visas??? I remember when I did it in 2005 it was hard to get the 5 year one.
I just got the year one in 2005.
Have things changed or did I get lucky getting the 5 year?
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Just got my visa back from NYC consulate and got the 5 year one --- yeah!
Curious: Is 5 years now the norm for visas??? I remember when I did it in 2005 it was hard to get the 5 year one.
I just got the year one in 2005.
Have things changed or did I get lucky getting the 5 year?[/QUOTE]Now the norm.
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Just got my visa back from NYC consulate and got the 5 year one --- yeah!
Curious: Is 5 years now the norm for visas??? I remember when I did it in 2005 it was hard to get the 5 year one.
I just got the year one in 2005.
Have things changed or did I get lucky getting the 5 year?[/QUOTE]I'm curious did you use a visa service or go through the process yourself? I got a 5 year visa the first time but I went to the consulate myself. I'm in the process of renewal but I have to use a visa service because I don't live close to a consulate. Hoping for a 5 year visa, as I go to Brasil at least four times a year.
[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]I'm curious did you use a visa service or go through the process yourself? I got a 5 year visa the first time but I went to the consulate myself. I'm in the process of renewal but I have to use a visa service because I don't live close to a consulate. Hoping for a 5 year visa, as I go to Brasil at least four times a year.[/QUOTE]Yes --- visarite out of Jersery. $205.00 USD -- slow service.
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Just got my visa back from NYC consulate and got the 5 year one --- yeah!
Curious: Is 5 years now the norm for visas??? I remember when I did it in 2005 it was hard to get the 5 year one.
I just got the year one in 2005.
Have things changed or did I get lucky getting the 5 year?[/QUOTE]
5 year visas were always the norm, it was just a few cases of either some guys with the bad luck of the draw and a couple of consulates that were getting a rep for issuing out 90 day visas.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Most of the agencies have someone on staff who speaks English so it is best to ask. My advice is to first select a girl that you like. If things are going well, ask her to recommend another girl from the agency to join you. Usually they arrive in a very short time. Result, 1 hour with first girl then dupla for an hour and 1 hour with the second girl.
In duplas, there is a significant difference in the experience based upon the chemistry between the girls. Also, if you want the girls to interact, you might want to mention to the agency that you would like girls who enjoy sex with other women.[/QUOTE]Since we are on the topic of multiple GDP's...I am planning to recruit for a TLN festa and would like some advice from guys who have done this before.
By festa, I mean about 4 completa GDP's that will be recruited on a Saturday and provide both 12 holes and companionship for me and my wingman through the rest of the weekend.
I'm thinking of recruiting my small flock of GDPs from BA85 on a Saturday afternoon and understand that the going rate is ~R100 for Centro TLN...does anyone have experience with this, or a better idea for staffing this party? .
I'm suspecting that I may have trouble finding girls who don't have something family-related to do on Sunday, and wondering where to put the personal stuff so that it doesn't get stolen out of the apartment...any advice on staffing or safety would be appreciated.
I'm on the west coast and I picked up my 5yrs visa 2 weeks ago. all the literature I read about brazilian visas said 1 yr for US$130. Its the norm now.
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Just got my visa back from NYC consulate and got the 5 year one --- yeah!
Curious: Is 5 years now the norm for visas??? I remember when I did it in 2005 it was hard to get the 5 year one.
I just got the year one in 2005.
Have things changed or did I get lucky getting the 5 year?[/QUOTE]
I'm planning my maiden trip to Brazil this October. I looked at the Brazilian embassy site and it looks like I need to apply for my visa from the Los Angeles Consulate. Any suggestions on a good visa service? (or any to stay away from?)
Thanks, Reef
[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim2]I'm curious did you use a visa service or go through the process yourself? I got a 5 year visa the first time but I went to the consulate myself. I'm in the process of renewal but I have to use a visa service because I don't live close to a consulate. Hoping for a 5 year visa, as I go to Brasil at least four times a year.[/QUOTE]
Although we have many Rio veterans on this forum, we also have some who are new to Rio and may be looking for a guide book. I have read them all and find the Lonely Planet guide the most insightful.
[url]http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/Primary/Product/Destination_Guides/City_Guides/Americas/PRD_PRD_2182/Rio+de+Janeiro+City+Guide.jsp?ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181057&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302026102&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441765968&bmUID=1250684926083&lpaffil=lpcomsearch-shoplinks[/url]
Also, some good information for free on their site:
[url]http://www.lonelyplanet.com/brazil/rio-de-janeiro[/url]
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Since we are on the topic of multiple GDP's...I am planning to recruit for a TLN festa and would like some advice from guys who have done this before. I'm suspecting that I may have trouble finding girls who don't have something family-related to do on Sunday, and wondering where to put the personal stuff so that it doesn't get stolen out of the apartment...any advice on staffing or safety would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Very true...lots of girls are really off on sunday.
I once hired a girl from a clinic to come TLN after work and that was ok during weekdays but sunday NO! no way to convince her: she wanted to stay with her kids...
So select first a non-mother one!:)
In case there is not a sufficient safe, I usually keep the sensitive stuff (that might be stolen by WG's, that means the laptop, money etc) into my suitcase with the locker.
Very true they can run away with the suitcase, but that gets a bit weird and if one is scared of such, then better hire a separate place:)
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Although we have many Rio veterans on this forum, we also have some who are new to Rio and may be looking for a guide book. I have read them all and find the Lonely Planet guide the most insightful.
[/QUOTE]
I second that. Still has some gaping holes, even the 'updated version,' but you miss so much of Rio without a basic non-punting guide and LP is def the best of the bunch.
(Their 'Brasil' is good too, but a bit unwieldy. I cut the relevant pages out with a sharp knife and sellotape them back when I get home.)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I second that. Still has some gaping holes, even the 'updated version,' but you miss so much of Rio without a basic non-punting guide and LP is def the best of the bunch.
(Their 'Brasil' is good too, but a bit unwieldy. I cut the relevant pages out with a sharp knife and sellotape them back when I get home.)[/QUOTE]
LOL, I am an ass, I got a copy a month ago, and I was lazy and did not read it, and now I can't find it. But glad to know its worth getting. Thxs.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Although we have many Rio veterans on this forum, we also have some who are new to Rio and may be looking for a guide book. I have read them all and find the Lonely Planet guide the most insightful.
[url]http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/Primary/Product/Destination_Guides/City_Guides/Americas/PRD_PRD_2182/Rio+de+Janeiro+City+Guide.jsp?ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181057&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302026102&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441765968&bmUID=1250684926083&lpaffil=lpcomsearch-shoplinks[/url]
Also, some good information for free on their site:
[url]http://www.lonelyplanet.com/brazil/rio-de-janeiro[/url][/QUOTE]
You are right. I find Lonely Planet guidebooks the best not just for Rio and Brazil, but for just about anywhere (with a few exceptions; their Central America and Maritime Provinces of Canada guidebooks are duds).
Viagra, Cialis, etc. in SP and Rio?
Any recommended and trustworthy pharmacy would be well appreciated.
Thanks
Rex
[QUOTE=Rex Feral]Viagra, Cialis, etc. in SP and Rio?
Any recommended and trustworthy pharmacy would be well appreciated.
Thanks
Rex[/QUOTE]Any pharmacy has in different configurations.
Compare prices.
What are the best sports bars in Rio?
Do they have the large type of sports bars like we have in the USA (large bar with 20 to 30 TV screens showing all types of sports, large dining area, full fun menu)?
[QUOTE=Hughdad]What are the best sports bars in Rio?
Do they have the large type of sports bars like we have in the USA (large bar with 20 to 30 TV screens showing all types of sports, large dining area, full fun menu)?[/QUOTE]
These are not quite like in the USA but reasonable options for a North American.
[url]http://www.shenanigans.com.br/[/url] Ipanema across from Praca Gen Osorio.
[url]http://www.mudbug.com.br/[/url] Copacabana, Rua Rudolfo Dantas, one block west of Copacabana Palace
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]These are not quite like in the USA but reasonable options for a North American.
[url]http://www.shenanigans.com.br/[/url] Ipanema across from Praca Gen Osorio.
[url]http://www.mudbug.com.br/[/url] Copacabana, Rua Rudolfo Dantas, one block west of Copacabana Palace[/QUOTE]Thanks Pouco. I've been to Shenanigans.
Mudbug looks like it could be a fun time. Looks like Rio needs a giant sports bar.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]What are the best sports bars in Rio?
Do they have the large type of sports bars like we have in the USA (large bar with 20 to 30 TV screens showing all types of sports, large dining area, full fun menu)?[/QUOTE]
When I am jonesing for an American style burger I go to Joe & Leo's in the same shopping plaza as Outback across from Rio Sul Mall. Watched the Super Bowl this year at the Marriott.
[QUOTE=Reefski]I'm planning my maiden trip to Brazil this October. I looked at the Brazilian embassy site and it looks like I need to apply for my visa from the Los Angeles Consulate. Any suggestions on a good visa service? (or any to stay away from?)
Thanks, Reef[/QUOTE]I used [url]http://www.abriggs.com/[/url]. They have offices all over. They are professional. Though a bit pricey. But I was able to get them on phone anytime I needed and I could track the progress and pay online. Made me feel comfortable sending my passport via mail. They also appear to do a lot of visa work.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Thanks Pouco. I've been to Shenanigans.
Mudbug looks like it could be a fun time. Looks like Rio needs a giant sports bar.[/QUOTE]
Mudbug is not as good as Shenanigans for sports coverage but it is convenient if you are staying in that area of Copacabana. You will be lucky to get anything more than futebol on TV.
Greetings Fellow Mongerers,
Anyone know how long it will take to vist/tour the Sugarloaf and Christo? can we do both in one day?
We plan to begin about 7 or 9am?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings Fellow Mongerers,
Anyone know how long it will take to vist/tour the Sugarloaf and Christo? can we do both in one day?
We plan to begin about 7 or 9am?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You can if you are organised. Sugar Loaf is a piece of cake ;) but Christo is a bit further and slightly more hassle. If you do Christo first, have clear weather so you have a decent view (rather than cloud cover) then relax for a meal (depending how much time you took or wasted getting out of Christo) and do Sugar Loaf a bit before (plus during, so you see the sun go down from the top) that's a nice way. Try to avoid the suburb around Christo at rush hour as the roads may be rather slow.
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings Fellow Mongerers,
Anyone know how long it will take to vist/tour the Sugarloaf and Christo? can we do both in one day?
We plan to begin about 7 or 9am?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Piece of cake.
Take a taxi and ask him to take you to Cosme Velho, where you can take a train that takes you to top of Christo. Train goes through the rainforest and is worth taking. Cost maybe around R$ 30 for train. NEVER let taxi take you to the top... Ticket is round ticket so you may come down from the Christo by train too.
From Cosme Velho take a taxi to Sugar loaf.
Just choose a sunny day for your visit. Any clouds and at least Christo is no good.
Also if you plan your visit well, its very problable that you can have a lunch in Sugar loaf or its vicinity.
Obrigado Senhores.
Perkele E Christopherd.
We are out the door and on our way.
[QUOTE=Perkele]Piece of cake.
Take a taxi and ask him to take you to Cosme Velho, where you can take a train that takes you to top of Christo. Train goes through the rainforest and is worth taking. Cost maybe around R$ 30 for train. NEVER let taxi take you to the top... Ticket is round ticket so you may come down from the Christo by train too.
From Cosme Velho take a taxi to Sugar loaf.
Just choose a sunny day for your visit. Any clouds and at least Christo is no good.
Also if you plan your visit well, its very problable that you can have a lunch in Sugar loaf or its vicinity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings Fellow Mongerers,
Anyone know how long it will take to vist/tour the Sugarloaf and Christo? can we do both in one day?
We plan to begin about 7 or 9am?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I would go to Christo on a sunny cloudless morning for a couple of hours.
Then go to centro to Cafe Colombo (it is a must to see it) for a light lunch/sweets and then to the top of the shoping mall at Botafogo for some ice cream/coffee.
You get a very nice view of Sugar loaf from up there and a nice place to take some pictures of it.
From there take a taxi to the Sugar loaf (it is very close) and be there about 1,1/2 hours before sunset so you can see Rio by night as well.
If you like it stay for dinner too.
Obregado. made it to the Christo today. Took about 3 hrs to get a few good shots. Thanks for all the advice Bro's. Sugarloaf soon to come.
Maybe Karla models for an evening snack.
[QUOTE=El Greco]I would go to Christo on a sunny cloudless morning for a couple of hours.
Then go to centro to Cafe Colombo (it is a must to see it) for a light lunch/sweets and then to the top of the shoping mall at Botafogo for some ice cream/coffee.
You get a very nice view of Sugar loaf from up there and a nice place to take some pictures of it.
From there take a taxi to the Sugar loaf (it is very close) and be there about 1,1/2 hours before sunset so you can see Rio by night as well.
If you like it stay for dinner too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings Fellow Mongerers,
Anyone know how long it will take to vist/tour the Sugarloaf and Christo? can we do both in one day? We plan to begin about 7 or 9am?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Here is a preview panoramic view from Pão de açúcar.
[url]http://ayrton.com/360/fs/paoacucar1f.html[/url]
All excellent suggestions for getting to these places and appreciating them. Cafe Colombo is a nice inbetween touch - quite awesome - and you can get the Metro from there to Botafogo where the connecting Metro Bus can take you to the foot of SugarLoaf for the chairlifts up.
Not sure about getting your meal on SugarLoaf there though. The food facilities are more in the nature of snacks and beer most of the time. Cafe Colombo is also more in the way of very discerning light food than proper meals. If you find you need a good solid portion of meat, Bar Luiz, on Rua Carioca 39 is nearby and will feed you well in traditional German style (it is also quite an institution!)
If you can find your way about, after you get off the Metro at Botafogo (for instance, if you use the above directions) and find Estação Botafogo on Rua Voluntários da Pátria 88, just opposite the petrol station - check it on google maps. For my money, one of the finest kilogrammas you'll find. Right up to oysters and carvery without the pomp of Porcao -type places.
There are many excellent places to eat in Botafogo. And as someone has mentioned, you get a lovely view if you want to go up the B.Shopping Mall to the restuarants on the top.
Decent restaurtants are in the minority around the tourist-by-the-coach-load areas at the base of Christo & Sugar Loaf.
The train up Christo is a must. At least you'll have fun if the weather suddenly clouds over!
Went there to eat a few nights ago with two GDP's. I made sure they dressed appropriate, but we had a great time. For the three of us, with about 6 drinks...nothing crazy, it cost R420. About 225USD.
Was worth it, these two GDPs rocked my world that evening!! lol
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do you notice the difference in brazil meat to united states meat? A brazil ian girl told me the meat taste funny in the USA.[/QUOTE]
I enjoy Brazilian meat but I have never laughed at an American steak. Beef taste is a matter of personal preference affected by how it is cooked. Beef is produced the same in Brasil as in the U.S., i.e. grass fed and grain fattened in feed lots, but several things will affect the taste. Brasilian beef cuts are very different than in the U.S. and they are not uniform throughout Brasil. Prepackaged meats are not recognizable in Brasil. You sometimes will see “Tibon” or filet mignon but you won’t find porterhouse or rib eye. I guess a “contra-filé” is similar. The preferred roast beef is called picanha. It is similar to U.S. top sirloin. Brasilian beef is also leaner than in the U.S. with less marbling of fat. Brasilian beef is commonly cooked on a rotisserie churrasco rather than a flaming grill or in an oven. Brasilian cooking includes a heavy seasoning with rock salt which definitely will seal in a more juicy taste. North American seasoning includes more herbs and spices. Depending on the restaurant, Brasilian hamburgers are often made with lower quality beef than most U.S. restaurants, and I believe contain a generous dose of extenders.
Brazilians are certainly not shy about salting any cut of beef before cooking!
[QUOTE=Geofagus]Went there to eat a few nights ago with two GDP's. I made sure they dressed appropriate, but we had a great time. For the three of us, with about 6 drinks...nothing crazy, it cost R420. About 225USD.
Was worth it, these two GDPs rocked my world that evening!! lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly, Porcão is WAY over rated/priced, I ate in a few more local places after Porcão, that were 1/2 the price and just as good.
I'll find the names and address later to share....(Carretão...nothing fancy, but great Churrasco and very reasonable, Rua Viconde de Piraja, 112 Ipanema)
If I recall we spent R200 for four guys including 2 bottles of wine!
The Prefeitura, is implementing a “choque de ordem” for food sales on the beaches of Rio. The new regulations will require registration and uniforms for all walking vendors. Some products will be prohibited from sale on the beach, such as camarao on a stick, toasted cheese, sanduiche natural, ice creams, acai, empadas, and others. While your favorite junk food may not be available in the future, it is good to know that the Prefeitura is policing the sanitation and hygiene of beach food sales. The barraqueiros, (the guys with the tents renting chairs) are already regulated and licensed for beach sales.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Thats not what I meant. The brasilian girl was from a farm so she must have been getting free range meat unlike the pesticide riddled meats in the usa that are shot up with growth stimulating hormones, steriods and antibiotics. All meat is diseased so i dont see why anyone in their right mind would eat meat.[/QUOTE]I guess I misunderstood your question. I didn't understand that you wanted to proselytize about vegetarianism.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do you notice the difference in brazil meat to united states meat? A brazil ian girl told me the meat taste funny in the USA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do you notice the difference in brazil meat to united states meat? A brazil ian girl told me the meat taste funny in the USA.[/QUOTE]Domestic Brazilian meat is not as over processed as USA meet and is not prepackaged the same way. As in any manufacturing process or operation it depends on the demands of the intended market. Its like going to a Texas Ranch and ordering a steak and comparing it to one flown in to New York City. Domestic Brazillian meat tastes a thousand times better to me. However, you have a higher chance of getting sick from it due to non-treated bacteria and parasites. Ever notice how it is more purple than red. Remember, the redder the meat the older it is or more treated. Fresh meet is almost purpley brown. I love steaks and I always want to see it before they cook it!
Aww man, A Groata, steak, eggs and fruit at 8:00 a.m is the Shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaat! Eat the food back to the casa for round 4! Always well done! Your intestines will thank you!
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Domestic Brazilian meat is not as over processed as USA meet and is not prepackaged the same way. As in any manufacturing process or operation it depends on the demands of the intended market. Its like going to a Texas Ranch and ordering a steak and comparing it to one flown in to New York City. [/QUOTE]The secret to great tasting beef is cold storage aging. It increases the flavor and results in a more tender cut of meat. Gristedes Manhattan groceries sell 21-day aged beef but it is expensive. Most fine New York restaurants age their beef for 10 to 20 days. That's why you pay dearly for a restaurant steak. The meat is not flown in to New York. It arrives as sides of beef in refrigerated trucks. If you get a fresh cut of meat on a Texas Ranch it would be still a grass-fed steer, unfattened by grain in the feed lot and a bloody tough steak at that.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]The secret to great tasting beef is cold storage aging. It increases the flavor and results in a more tender cut of meat. Gristedes Manhattan groceries sell 21-day aged beef but it is expensive. Most fine New York restaurants age their beef for 10 to 20 days. That's why you pay dearly for a restaurant steak. The meat is not flown in to New York. It arrives as sides of beef in refrigerated trucks. If you get a fresh cut of meat on a Texas Ranch it would be still a grass-fed steer, unfattened by grain in the feed lot and a bloody tough steak at that.[/QUOTE]You win! I cant argue with someone that thinks there is no difference from Texas to New York in packaging!
Friends, how is the weather in september ?
I mean, I see by net the temperature, but thinking to come, I would like to know, if is possible, and nice, to go to beach, get tanned and swimming.
It seems it rains a lot too.
But it should be low season, I mean not many mongers, so maybe better rates with accomodation and so on ?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Friends, how is the weather in september ?
I mean, I see by net the temperature, but thinking to come, I would like to know, if is possible, and nice, to go to beach, get tanned and swimming.
It seems it rains a lot too.
But it should be low season, I mean not many mongers, so maybe better rates with accomodation and so on ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Quick IMO answer - weather in Rio is always pretty unpredictable. At least in September you won't burn as easily (on sunny days) as at the height of summer. Rates are ok as there's no Carnaval, New Year, etc on. I personally think there's bigger, crazier things that usually affect prices more (if anything) than the slight variations in foreign monger numbers.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Friends, how is the weather in september ?
I mean, I see by net the temperature, but thinking to come, I would like to know, if is possible, and nice, to go to beach, get tanned and swimming.
It seems it rains a lot too.
But it should be low season, I mean not many mongers, so maybe better rates with accomodation and so on ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Last November, during my three weeks stay in Rio, I only saw the sun 3 times for a few hours. All the time it was cloudy, drizling or raining and cold.Go figure for September.
Before thar I was in Buenos Aires with fine weather and temperatures up to 32 celcius.
IMO best weather for Rio is March to May. Sunny skies and mild temperatures then.
Anyone seen this yet??
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Anyone seen this yet??
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Pretty tasteless if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Pretty tasteless if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
Tasteless? Not sure what that means in this case. The thought that a dictator/murderer and all his henchmen are sitting around talking about Help is at least slightly comical. It's not my video, but it's about the mongering scene, and has no political message.
I apologize in advance if any one is offended.
ryjer
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Friends, how is the weather in september ?
I mean, I see by net the temperature, but thinking to come, I would like to know, if is possible, and nice, to go to beach, get tanned and swimming.
It seems it rains a lot too.
But it should be low season, I mean not many mongers, so maybe better rates with accomodation and so on ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Like anytime in Rio, can rain, can be 30 degrees on any day in any month. Rates on accomodation are cheaper than high season, I personally find that it rains more in December/January. It isn't as crowded as August/July, where you get american and europeans on there summer vacations. And no where near as crowded as December to March. I'll be there in a week for a month. Again.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Anyone seen this yet??
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]
ryjer[/QUOTE]
It's actually quite well done and very funny. Propably even better if you don't understand german.
P.S Yes, and a bit tasteless with mr H.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Tasteless? Not sure what that means in this case. The thought that a dictator/murderer and all his henchmen are sitting around talking about Help is at least slightly comical. It's not my video, but it's about the mongering scene, and has no political message.
I apologize in advance if any one is offended.
ryjer[/QUOTE]I can't imagine that anyone could be offended by that, and I am Jewish! Thanks for the link. It's funny as hell!
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Tasteless? Not sure what that means in this case. The thought that a dictator/murderer and all his henchmen are sitting around talking about Help is at least slightly comical. It's not my video, but it's about the mongering scene, and has no political message.
I apologize in advance if any one is offended.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Hilarious!
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]I live around that area myself and to be honest with you what we have here is no comparison to what is out their. We, for some odd reason, get the rejects. And I go to the dances that they have at the euro-palace. Or guitar bar which is famous for playing there music. And once they are here they aim for the Caucasians than there own. And that is the truth. Once here they just aim for the Residency or Citizenship. Hey have you ever been to adega?
Good place to see the Brazilian bunda in Ironbound.[/QUOTE]
A couple of weeks ago I was feeling homesick for some Brazilian bunda so I went to Craigs list and noticed about 5 GDP's all Brazilian hold up in a hotel not far from where I live and not far from the area you are talking about.
I called all 5 of them and chose 1 based upon the picture and her sweet voice.
What they do is they tell you when you get to the hotel call from the parking lot, I did and she told me her room number.
The picture was taken in better days but she wasn't bad and I wasn't giving up. She wouldn't honor the price and service on Craigs list posted so we negotiated less time and money, but she'll never get repeat business from me. We did the whole session in portuguese, which I think she was quite surprised. I feel if they speak portuguese then most likely they are not LE.
CBJ of course as she fingered herself with me, she got herself off, didn't need the lube she pulled out she was slick for my dick. Session was good but no where near a session you would get in Rio, if VM is 1 real a minute then this was about 5 dollars a minute. This is why I go to Rio.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Session was good but no where near a session you would get in Rio, if VM is 1 real a minute then this was about 5 dollars a minute. This is why I go to Rio.[/QUOTE]
Rio Bob, I'm happy for you, but I didn't know you compared bunda-prices to VM? I always thought Help was your playground? :D
Me, being a cheap f**k, can't help thinking when I order a beer back home: "I could get laid in Rio for the cost of this pint of beer..." :(
Speaking about beer (which is a very important subject). To me, to truly enjoy a beer in Rio, it must not be a chopp served by an ignorant waiter in a white coat at TA. It must be served in a boteco by an old waiter who has been working there for at least the two last decades at the same boteco. Of course it has to be a 600 ml beer in an isopor. Icecold, with small pieces of ice sliding down the neck. If it's a Bohemia I will be in heaven, but most other brands will do (except Kaiser). The beer have to, preferably, be served on a unbalanced steel table (not the wooden once).
Of course, some lovely cariocas have to wander by doing their bunda-do jacaré-swing with their asses (common expression in the Amazon, if you ever seen a jacaré swing her tail you'll understand...).
Sorry, for the interruption. Let's go back to discussing the weather, beef meat and H*tler-videos.
[QUOTE=Sperto]...
Speaking about beer (which is a very important subject)...[/QUOTE]
Please...do not apologize, very nice interruption, I love beer too, IMHO for me from 1998 the best one is always the same. Often I go to Prague by car just to comeback with 120-150 bottles of 0,5L to drink slowly and taste well once at home and yes, even if I tried many beers in Rio, Staropramen is always the best for me. :)
[url]www.staropramen.com[/url]
P.S. Try it, if you did not already do it :)
[QUOTE=Iluvthatwoman]
I understand why the Government would want to close Help because of its high profile location. But I don't understand the talk about how it is going to help tourism by closing Help. [/QUOTE]
Well, if you go to legitimate travel sites for people who are just tourists and might go just once in their life, all the response people get when they ask where to stay is DO NOT STAY IN Copacabana because theres nothing but theives and prostitutes there. Stay In Ipanema.
On these sites people are always saying do not stay in the Rio Othon Palace hotel because it is next to that Help Disco and there is noise all night long. Also they say things like every cafe along Ave Atlantica is full of prostitutes.
So in my opinion they are trying to clean up Copa so that it is more tourist friendly so regular tourists and families can stay there. Because now many stay away and stay in Ipanema.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Rio Bob, I'm happy for you, but I didn't know you compared bunda-prices to VM? I always thought Help was your playground? :D
Sorry, for the interruption. Let's go back to discussing the weather, beef meat and H*tler-videos.[/QUOTE]
Well the only reason why I mentioned VM was because my experience with this girl could be measured in minutes, like I read VM is from you. In my case it was 30 minutes, so that's why I chose VM as my comparison.
I have never been to VM, only know about it mostly from your writings here on ISG. Maybe I'll get there some day but hope I won't have the same experience as the Furor.
Speaking about the Furor, when I saw that video I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard. The guy who put those subtitles in, timed it so right, the things he said and when he said them were perfect. Whoever did it obviously knows Rio well, even mentioned Karla models, I suspect he could be a member of this board or a similar one but it was done very well.
When you are in youtube looking at this they show similar movies on the side as you all know, I saw the Michael Jackson one, where Hitler finds out Michael Jackon has died, I sent this to some friends, of course this would be a more common subject. Many people on my email list don't know about Help Disco and that I even go there, I guess if I sent it to them they just wouldn't get it, but I couldn't stop laughing, it has a very narrow audience.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]A couple of weeks ago I was feeling homesick for some Brazilian bunda so I went to Craigs list and noticed about 5 GDP's all Brazilian hold up in a hotel not far from where I live and not far from the area you are talking about.
I called all 5 of them and chose 1 based upon the picture and her sweet voice.
What they do is they tell you when you get to the hotel call from the parking lot, I did and she told me her room number.
The picture was taken in better days but she wasn't bad and I wasn't giving up. She wouldn't honor the price and service on Craigs list posted so we negotiated less time and money, but she'll never get repeat business from me. We did the whole session in portuguese, which I think she was quite surprised. I feel if they speak portuguese then most likely they are not LE.
CBJ of course as she fingered herself with me, she got herself off, didn't need the lube she pulled out she was slick for my dick. Session was good but no where near a session you would get in Rio, if VM is 1 real a minute then this was about 5 dollars a minute. This is why I go to Rio.[/QUOTE]Adega actually has great food. And if this is jersey we are talking about as I'm thinking about there are several good places to get some brasiliera. Believe it or not I just had a nice one for 60.00 USD and 30.00 to the house at Mickey Dees in Paterson. Lightening must have struck because she was only 21, and gravity had nothing on her body.
There are some other places to get some ok GDP in North Jersey, stripclubs with FS and the like.
Gentlemen:
How many of you have used your IPhone in Brasil? Were you able to avoid the massive charges that many US based Iphone users have reported while out of the country?
Did you get the $6.99 (or whatever) international plan that is supposed to lessen the cost?
Any input here from IPhone users is welcome. I know if you simply turn the damn thing on in a foreign country it will update your email and everything else leading to a lot of $$ charges.
Many thanks in advance,
DaveWave
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
How many of you have used your IPhone in Brasil? Were you able to avoid the massive charges that many US based Iphone users have reported while out of the country?
Did you get the $6.99 (or whatever) international plan that is supposed to lessen the cost?
Any input here from IPhone users is welcome. I know if you simply turn the damn thing on in a foreign country it will update your email and everything else leading to a lot of $$ charges.
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
Plenty of good news for you
* there is some US carrier with international data roaming fairly cheaply. I met a guy with that, but don't ask me who he was. He had a Blackberry, so you would have to hack your iphone
* Tim has a prepaid R$ 5 per day data plan (not unlimited but quite a lot of data) data plan. Slightly tricky to use (send text message to authorize a day of cheap data plan or else you pay per traffic use, very expensive)
* I can probably rent you a chip with data plan, as Brazilians make sure that it is a pain for you to get a chip with data plan.
[url]http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/italian-arrested-fortaleza-brazil-kissing-8-year-daughter[/url]
brazilian's justice system did it again.
an italian family man was in fortaleza beach with his brazilian wife and 8 year old daugher. kissed his daugher on the mouth (no french kiss) which is common in italy. has been in brazilian jails ever since (about 6 days) and is denied freedom. sits with 15 common criminals who normally don't look kindly upon people accused of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] and abusing children (that are the charges).
i wonder if he already got raped and beaten up in jail.
he risks to stay another 15 years in jail.
at least brazil harbors italian terrorists (battista) and bank robbers (ronald biggs). the lesson: don't take your family to brazil. and if you have a kid, make sure it does not get kidnapped by his brazilian mother ( [url]http://bringseanhome.org[/url] )
[quote=brazil specialist][url]http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/italian-arrested-fortaleza-brazil-kissing-8-year-daughter[/url]
brazilian's justice system did it again.
an italian family man was in fortaleza beach with his brazilian wife and 8 year old daugher. kissed his daugher on the mouth (no french kiss) which is common in italy. has been in brazilian jails ever since (about 6 days) and is denied freedom. sits with 15 common criminals who normally don't look kindly upon people accused of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] and abusing children (that are the charges).
i wonder if he already got raped and beaten up in jail.
he risks to stay another 15 years in jail.
at least brazil harbors italian terrorists (battista) and bank robbers (ronald biggs). the lesson: don't take your family to brazil. and if you have a kid, make sure it does not get kidnapped by his brazilian mother ( [url]http://bringseanhome.org[/url] )[/quote]hey, don't associate ronnie biggs with terrorists.
he had a brazilian child which helped him escape british law.
his son micheal stood by him all the way, as he done everything to stand by him as a father. the british government would rather put a dying man behind bars, but they let terrorists who kill 100+ people go back to libya on compasionate grounds. but they leave ronnie in jail till the end. the lockerby bomber got a heroes welcome in libya. ronnies son now lives in london and transfers brazilian soccer players to english clubs. typical british justice.
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
How many of you have used your IPhone in Brasil? Were you able to avoid the massive charges that many US based Iphone users have reported while out of the country?
Did you get the $6.99 (or whatever) international plan that is supposed to lessen the cost?
Any input here from IPhone users is welcome. I know if you simply turn the damn thing on in a foreign country it will update your email and everything else leading to a lot of $$ charges.
Many thanks in advance,
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
Other than unlocking your iPhone and buying a local sim card, your best way to avoid massive charges is to turn the data roaming function off. Once you do that you should be able to use the internet/ email on wifi only without any charges. The only problem is finding a good free wifi spot outside of your apt or hotel. As far as making calls not much that I can think of other than again an unlocked phone. It's cheaper to take a hit for making calls than for using the internet/ email on the 3g/ att network.
[url]http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/iphone-travel-tips.jsp[/url]
[quote=brazil specialist][url]http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/italian-arrested-fortaleza-brazil-kissing-8-year-daughter[/url]
brazilian's justice system did it again.
an italian family man was in fortaleza beach with his brazilian wife and 8 year old daugher. kissed his daugher on the mouth (no french kiss) which is common in italy. has been in brazilian jails ever since (about 6 days) and is denied freedom. sits with 15 common criminals who normally don't look kindly upon people accused of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] and abusing children (that are the charges).
i wonder if he already got raped and beaten up in jail.
he risks to stay another 15 years in jail.
[/url] )[/quote]
he has been sent to hospital for medical reasons. probably a way to keep out of reach of other inmates.
holiday today in brazil, the judge should update the case on tuesday.
let's see what happens and if the guy has to apply for political asylum :(((
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
How many of you have used your IPhone in Brasil? Were you able to avoid the massive charges that many US based Iphone users have reported while out of the country?
Did you get the $6.99 (or whatever) international plan that is supposed to lessen the cost?
Any input here from IPhone users is welcome. I know if you simply turn the damn thing on in a foreign country it will update your email and everything else leading to a lot of $$ charges.
Many thanks in advance,
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
That's the bad side of i-phone. As soon as you are out of your homecountry and home provider, you are at the mercy of wild rates.In that the Blackberry is unbeatable. I prefer to have an i-pod touch that has same functionalities as the i-phone, but with no phone feature (and bills). And I download those personal emails when I bump into a free wi-fi spot.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]That's the bad side of I-phone. As soon as you are out of your homecountry and home provider, you are at the mercy of wild rates. In that the Blackberry is unbeatable. I prefer to have an I-pod touch that has same functionalities as the I-phone, but with no phone feature (and bills). And I download those personal emails when I bump into a free wi-fi spot.[/QUOTE]Get skype and before you leave forward your cell calls to a skype number. Get skype on your iphone and anywhere there is wifi you can received the calls, which on avenida atlantica. There are alot of places. Also, consider jailbreaking the phone, getting a brazilian chip from TIM all incoming calls are free. Make people who call you from the states pay the toll.
Is the term "garota" a derogatory term? I mean, if I use it for the word "woman" with a non-GDP Brazilian-American (male or female), would it be looked at with a raised eyebrow that I used that term or is it the exact same as "mulhere"?
Thanks.
Rodeo
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Is the term "garota" a derogatory term? I mean, if I use it for the word "woman" with a non-GDP Brazilian-American (male or female), would it be looked at with a raised eyebrow that I used that term or is it the exact same as "mulhere"?
Thanks.
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
"Garota" means literally "girl", so no, I don't think it's derogatory at all. As opposed to "mulher", I think it's clear "garota" refers to a young woman, yes, so it's not exactly synonymous. But think about "Garota de Ipanema", de famous Tom Jobim song. I don't think that the songwriter, Vinícius de Moraes, actually one of the most highly acclaimed Brazilian poets of the 20st century, was to insinuate that they were singing about a prostitute.
EA
[QUOTE=DaveWave]Gentlemen:
How many of you have used your IPhone in Brasil? Were you able to avoid the massive charges that many US based Iphone users have reported while out of the country?
Did you get the $6.99 (or whatever) international plan that is supposed to lessen the cost?
Any input here from IPhone users is welcome. I know if you simply turn the damn thing on in a foreign country it will update your email and everything else leading to a lot of $$ charges.
Many thanks in advance,
DaveWave[/QUOTE]
I took my unlocked jail broken iphone down in July. It is not on any U.S. based plan. I have skype and I made calls using WiFi. Used wifi in my apartment and on Avenida Atlantica. Surfed the net everything. I got a Tim card, but had a hard time getting it to work. I don't recommend them, but if you use Tim, don't pay until your phone is actually working. They will charge you for the card and don't guarantee it to work. No money back. If you have an iphone turn everything off...push...mail, anything that automatically updates. If you don't it will drain your minutes. To avoid all of these problems, get a cheap unlocked GSM phone from EBAY. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Is the term "garota" a derogatory term?[/QUOTE]
Better say "menina". It's much classier. Or "moça".
Gents,
I wonder if you can help. I'm thinking of going to RJ in October. I prefer using agencies as opposed to many incalls and clubs.
So anyway, I mailed an agency called 'bellaspacompanhantes' to see what they would charge for me to spend three days with a girl. Their response was 900USD per day.
Am I right in thinking this is extortionate? What should I paying and would a request in Portuguese have made a difference?
Also, if anyone knows how I can go about getting someone for that many days, I'd appreciate the info.
Bill
Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake.
Mandrake is a brilliant Criminal lawyer (and also a wine and cigars amateur, a womanizer and a one-night-stand maestro). His main line of work is dealing with the characters from Rio's underworld on behalf of his clients: wealthy people, or high middle class people, who find themselves entangled with this parallel reality, mainly for sex affairs.
Definitely one of the most brilliant TV serie ever done in Brasil. Interesting perspectives about the upper-classes in Rio and their dirty little secrets, lots of (soft) sex and tons of moças bonitas.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68RWbBkPJ1w&feature=related[/url]
Some episodes synopsis :
- A Playboy falls for a prostitute and hires Mandrake to negotiate her "release" from the brothel where she works.
- When the nymphomaniac girlfriend of an Argentine pop star vanishes in the city, Mandrake is hired to find the girl.
- A famous stylist is blackmailed by an anonymous who threatens to expose his eccentric sex life.
- A colleague calls Mandrake to handle an emergency in an orgy at a millionaire's mansion involving prominent people.
- In search of a friend's niece turned call girl that went missing, Mandrake goes to Brasilia and investigates a bizarre sect headed by an influential politician.
- When an old friend gets blackmailed and indicted for corrupting minors, Mandrake investigates and uncovers unsuspected secrets.
Ect, ect ..
Here is the official site : [url]http://www.hbo-br.tv/mandrake/[/url]
The whole serie is downloadable on Vuze.
Got it now. At first, I thought you were serious about this show having "cultural" value. LOL.
Then I realized you were informing us how lowbrow the show is.
Seems to be one of those shows intelligent people laugh at because the characters take things seriously in a show that is ultimately simple and formulaic.
Most Brazilians in my educational range (JD,PhD, or MD) do not watch TV at all because there is so little quality.
TJ
[QUOTE=Prosal]Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake.
Mandrake is a brilliant Criminal lawyer (and also a wine and cigars amateur, a womanizer and a one-night-stand maestro). His main line of work is dealing with the characters from Rio's underworld on behalf of his clients: wealthy people, or high middle class people, who find themselves entangled with this parallel reality, mainly for sex affairs.
Definitely one of the most brilliant TV serie ever done in Brasil. Interesting perspectives about the upper-classes in Rio and their dirty little secrets, lots of (soft) sex and tons of moças bonitas.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68RWbBkPJ1w&feature=related[/url]
Some episodes synopsis :
- A Playboy falls for a prostitute and hires Mandrake to negotiate her "release" from the brothel where she works.
- When the nymphomaniac girlfriend of an Argentine pop star vanishes in the city, Mandrake is hired to find the girl.
- A famous stylist is blackmailed by an anonymous who threatens to expose his eccentric sex life.
- A colleague calls Mandrake to handle an emergency in an orgy at a millionaire's mansion involving prominent people.
- In search of a friend's niece turned call girl that went missing, Mandrake goes to Brasilia and investigates a bizarre sect headed by an influential politician.
- When an old friend gets blackmailed and indicted for corrupting minors, Mandrake investigates and uncovers unsuspected secrets.
Ect, ect ..
Here is the official site : [url]http://www.hbo-br.tv/mandrake/[/url]
The whole serie is downloadable on Vuze.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I realized you were informing us how lowbrow the show is. Seems to be one of those shows intelligent people laugh at because the characters take things seriously in a show that is ultimately simple and formulaic. Most Brazilians in my educational range do not watch TV at all because there is so little quality[/QUOTE]
Oh well.
Another know-it-all hardcore woremonger who doesn't know shit about this country and who has decided that it was his board by challenging with condescending attitudes everything that doesn't suits his tastes of culturally unaware cheap-sex-tourist-in-Copacabana.
Just a question Bubba : where have you met those "brasilians in your educational range" ..in Help? ..in VM?...in Tijuana brothels ? ..or in your rural Iowa white trash trailer park?
Do you even gibber two words of portuguese ?
Anyhow despite what you wrongly state, Mandrake was met with great enthusiasm by critics. For your information it was adapted from the character created by Rubem Fonseca, known for his sharp analysis of Rio de Janeiro's diverse society, who won the Camoes Prize, considered to be the most important Novel Award in Brasil.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake.
Mandrake is a brilliant Criminal lawyer (and also a wine and cigars amateur, a womanizer and a one-night-stand maestro). His main line of work is dealing with the characters from Rio's underworld on behalf of his clients: wealthy people, or high middle class people, who find themselves entangled with this parallel reality, mainly for sex affairs.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up on what looks like a very entertaining show, I am going to check it out.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Most Brazilians in my educational range do not watch TV at all because there is so little quality.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Maybe they don't have a TV in that educational range?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Better say "menina". It's much classier. Or "moça".[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Moca is good, Garota is more equivalent to what we call Chick.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Maybe they don't have a TV in that educational range?[/QUOTE]
By the way, it is well known in certain circles that highly educated people often do not own televisions. So it is safe to assume that the intelligensia in Brazil may not have TVs.
Ironically, I was just speaking with a Brazilian woman two days ago and she said she has not owned a TV in years. This is very common amongst the educated classes in all nations.
These are the only types of Brazilians I associate with in the US, so I can only speak from that experience.
Again, I spend my days with certain types of people and often do not understand people's posts on the ISG. If that guy was serious about the Mandrake show then sorry, I did not mean to offend.
In fact, I may attempt to write an episode myself to sell to them and make some dollars for a couple of trips to Rio!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Again, I spend my days with certain types of people and often do not understand people's posts on the ISG. If that guy was serious about the Mandrake show then sorry, I did not mean to offend.
TJ[/QUOTE]TJ,
I've taken little excerpts from Prosal's episode summaries and shown how the plots tie into ISG themes, and why the post about the show is relevant and interesting for most people, including me.
As for 'certain' types of people. Let's be real. I also spend my time with 'certain types' like well-read and bred Ph. D's. If they are sure that their wives, preachers, or bosses won't find out, they are no different than any other person. Drinking cheap beer, watching trash TV, paying to have sex with women who maybe never even attended school at all; girls would think that fine art is something that her real boyfriend stole and sold for money when she didn't find enough highly educated and cultured non-TV watching gringos to fuck her last week at the termas. Do you see the irony? . As men, we all enjoy trashy stuff to some extent regardless of how well we've been trained and educated to do otherwise. In fact, it sounds like that is the point that the show is making.
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-.A Playboy falls for a prostitute.[ISG member meets a pro and pulls TLN]
-.Nymphomaniac girlfriend. [we all want one, or 10]
- Eccentric sex life. [half a world from home and having crazy sex with hot women you just met, several per day. Not a normal activity for 99.999% of the population]
- An orgy. [calling in the agency girls for a party]
- Call girl that went missing. [termas girl doesn't show up the next day as promised]
[QUOTE=Prosal]Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake.
Mandrake is a brilliant Criminal lawyer (and also a wine and cigars amateur, a womanizer and a one-night-stand maestro). His main line of work is dealing with the characters from Rio's underworld on behalf of his clients: wealthy people, or high middle class people, who find themselves entangled with this parallel reality, mainly for sex affairs.
Definitely one of the most brilliant TV serie ever done in Brasil. Interesting perspectives about the upper-classes in Rio and their dirty little secrets, lots of (soft) sex and tons of moças bonitas.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68RWbBkPJ1w&feature=related[/url]
Some episodes synopsis :
- A Playboy falls for a prostitute and hires Mandrake to negotiate her "release" from the brothel where she works.
- When the nymphomaniac girlfriend of an Argentine pop star vanishes in the city, Mandrake is hired to find the girl.
- A famous stylist is blackmailed by an anonymous who threatens to expose his eccentric sex life.
- A colleague calls Mandrake to handle an emergency in an orgy at a millionaire's mansion involving prominent people.
- In search of a friend's niece turned call girl that went missing, Mandrake goes to Brasilia and investigates a bizarre sect headed by an influential politician.
- When an old friend gets blackmailed and indicted for corrupting minors, Mandrake investigates and uncovers unsuspected secrets.
Ect, ect ..
Here is the official site : [url]http://www.hbo-br.tv/mandrake/[/url]
The whole serie is downloadable on Vuze.[/QUOTE]
It was shown several months ago as a special showing on HBO. It was at the same time that they showed the Sexo Urbano series.
Hey Guys,
Just inquiring if 3K USD would be sufficient for a 10 day stay in Rio? I plan on visiting Termas as well as having escorts from agencies come to my apartment. I'm guessing 15 sessions overall in 10 days, maybe less. Not sure if I'll be pulling anything out of Help but we'll see.
Any info or pointers would be appreciated.
RS
[QUOTE=Prosal]Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake. .... The whole serie is downloadable on Vuze.[/QUOTE]
And there's that HBO series Alice that takes place in São Paulo: lots of nudity. I would like to get DVDs, but it's not out yet (though available on the Internet, if you know where to look.) HBO Latino is showing it here, but inexplicably dubbed in Spanish!
I'll have to look into this Vuze thing...
[QUOTE=Redsox911]Hey Guys,
Just inquiring if 3K USD would be sufficient for a 10 day stay in Rio? I plan on visiting Termas as well as having escorts from agencies come to my apartment. I'm guessing 15 sessions overall in 10 days, maybe less. Not sure if I'll be pulling anything out of Help but we'll see.
Any info or pointers would be appreciated.
RS[/QUOTE]3K = approx R$5400. Agency escorts = R$120 or more for 2 hours (plus taxi). Termas = approx R$300 per session (or more depending on drinks, time, # of ladies). You can do the math from there to start.
Much info can be obtained by reading the Bubba Report thread and by going through these other threads as pricing and options are discussed at length. Can save you alot of money to do some research here on your own. And can give you some great pointers on what to prioritize and what to avoid.
[QUOTE=Redsox911]Hey Guys,
Just inquiring if 3K USD would be sufficient for a 10 day stay in Rio? I plan on visiting Termas as well as having escorts from agencies come to my apartment. I'm guessing 15 sessions overall in 10 days, maybe less. Not sure if I'll be pulling anything out of Help but we'll see.
Any info or pointers would be appreciated.
RS[/QUOTE]
Ten day trips are usually what I take to Rio, and normally $3 grand has been MORE than enough for the 10 days. And I'll often do around 20 sessions over that period of time. Plus food, drinks, taxis, entrance fees, etc. You can do it on $3,000. That excludes airfare and lodging, which you should already have covered before your plane takes to the air. That way, all you have to do is enjoy when you get there. I will add, though, that with the exchange rate being what it is, you may want to take a little more . . . like maybe $3,200. You want to be able to spend R600 a day minimum. Not that you will actually spend that much each and every day . . . some days you will spend less and some days more . . . average it out . . . but just make sure you build in a sufficient minimum daily amount of money to have on hand. That way, you won't have any worries about running out of funds during your trip. Of course, everybody plays it differently. But since you said 10 days, and since that's how long I usually stay, I thought I would share something about how I budget for that same period of time. Enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Redsox911]Hey Guys,
Just inquiring if 3K USD would be sufficient for a 10 day stay in Rio? I plan on visiting Termas as well as having escorts from agencies come to my apartment. I'm guessing 15 sessions overall in 10 days, maybe less. Not sure if I'll be pulling anything out of Help but we'll see.
Any info or pointers would be appreciated.
RS[/QUOTE]As a rule in Rio I go on (at present rate) around550 us (1000r per day) a day spending money. After accomodation and airfares. But out off that in a month trip I will probably go to vips 5 or 6 times and get the amaze, millenium, hightech suite etc. I also do not touch the trash at mp.
I agree with ThickCane, I try to average about 300 bucks a day for my vacations. With the rate down to 1.80R, I might even add another 50 bucks a day to that amount.
Thanks for the responses, I was just looking to get a "roundabout" figure and 3K or a bit more figures to work out ok. I'll still continue my deeper research into it.
Thanks again Gents!
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]*The Office*
Av Aires Saldanha #92 A, Copacabana.
[url]http://www.theoffice-sportsbar-restaurant-brasil.com/[/url]
Run by a very friendly hat wearing rogue Australian who I like very much. Great place to watch American sport on the weekends. Always American football on Sat and Sun and sometimes other days. During the week many semi well off locals go to enjoy the live bands and to have a good time, great atmosphere and mix of gringos-locals. Need to book a table on Friday nights. Meals range from R15 for breakfast to R20-R40 for dinner. Beer is about R4, juice R4. In the small street behind directly behind Help. If you do take a girl there make sure she is not dressed like a "help" girl, respectful casual dress is the code. You can check email for free after a meal. Minimum consumption R10. This is my "Office" when in Rio.
NB: They have a WiFi internet hot spot throughout the restaurant with a number of power outlets close to each table/booth.[/QUOTE]I found this is Bubba's 2006 guide and am wondering if it's still open or if there's other places like it in Rio. I gotta see my Pats while I'm in town!
I know it hurts. I travel a lot, so I frequently have over 600 to 700 USD phone bills. Telecom companies are modern day bandits!
The solution is to lok off the data roaming function. Link to wifi spots (Copacabana beach, hotels), and use Skype or Truphone over the Wifi. The problem is that from Skype to landline or cellphones, the voice quality is not great. From Skype to Skype it is excellent.
[QUOTE=Redsox911]I found this is Bubba's 2006 guide and am wondering if it's still open or if there's other places like it in Rio. I gotta see my Pats while I'm in town![/QUOTE]John sold the office about a year ago. He now relaxes and spends most afternoons at balconey.
[QUOTE=Redsox911]Thanks for the responses, I was just looking to get a "roundabout" figure and 3K or a bit more figures to work out ok. I'll still continue my deeper research into it.
Thanks again Gents![/QUOTE]
you will tend to spend more at the begining of your trip and have more energy to screw like an Olympic Athlete...with that said your spending on GDPs toward the end of your days will decrease.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I know it hurts. I travel a lot, so I frequently have over 600 to 700 USD phone bills. Telecom companies are modern day bandits!
The solution is to lok off the data roaming function. Link to wifi spots (Copacabana beach, hotels), and use Skype or Truphone over the Wifi. The problem is that from Skype to landline or cellphones, the voice quality is not great. From Skype to Skype it is excellent.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I now use Skype from my laptop (voice and video calling using webcams) all the time for business and it is amazing - and FREE! I just switched over to the iphone for its' video demoing capabilities. I actually walk into a conference room with just the iphone and do presentations. I have not traveled abroad yet with the iphone and understand the limitations with AT&T and the iphone. But Skype now has a mobile application. I would assume I would still need to unlock my iphone to use Skype in Brazil correct? Even if I had no intention of using the AT&T iphone services abroad? I carry around a separate free Razr cellphone with a TIM card in Rio for the few calls I make/receive there. Otherwise I do all my business emailing and Internet access on my laptop. Any guidance is much appreciated as I was planning to investigate this soon for my upcoming trip. Best
I came across this new book whilst on UK amazon it states its a pre-order but might well be avaialble elsewhere. Books called.
"Favela: Four Decades of Living on the Edge in Rio De Janeiro"
Looks really good indepth real life view of favelas and living in a favela.
If anyone has any good books to recommend that would be great. I guess i prefer real life books, reality.
I just finished 'marching powder' highly recommended to those who havent read it, real life story of an english man locked up in an bolivian jail, who became a must see attraction in the south american lonley planet travellers guide, Great book! also read Pros & Cons advertised here, it was also good although not reality its got a gripping story bouts of mongering in DR and ISG mentions..Always on the look out of good books :)
"Admittedly of the beaten path of mongering but in the general section and the favela book looks good."
[quote]If anyone has any good books to recommend that would be great. I guess i prefer real life books, reality.[/quote]
A couple of books in English that are quite good:-
A Death in Brazil, by Peter Robb.
Samba by Alma Guillermoprieto.
Both quite easy to obtain. The first includes a wealth of detail about handling situations (the title possibly relates to getting out of being shot after the author discovers a thief in his apartment). It is also a manual of laidbackness for survival and communication that most of us foreigners can only aspire to. Goes from Copa to cities and locales less travelled - at which point it might flag a bit for you if you are only a Copa man.
The second is the story of a foreigner (a Latina though) who moves into a favela for an extended period of time to get to know (Rio) Carnaval from the inside, to be accepted by the ordinary faveladas as 'one of them.' Her journey is quite touching. (Details are slightly dated but human interaction and background on Carnaval is good.)
Both these books are non-fiction. They don't really touch on mongering. They do give you a deep inside feel for Brasil you won't get from tour guides. For the perceptive, they will definitely help you shed those gringo airs and graces and maybe find something a bit more 'authentic' in your approach. Which some people on here at least do seem to value.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]A couple of books in English that are quite good:-
A Death in Brazil, by Peter Robb.
Samba by Alma Guillermoprieto.
Both quite easy to obtain. The first includes a wealth of detail about handling situations (the title possibly relates to getting out of being shot after the author discovers a thief in his apartment). It is also a manual of laidbackness for survival and communication that most of us foreigners can only aspire to. Goes from Copa to cities and locales less travelled - at which point it might flag a bit for you if you are only a Copa man.
The second is the story of a foreigner (a Latina though) who moves into a favela for an extended period of time to get to know (Rio) Carnaval from the inside, to be accepted by the ordinary faveladas as 'one of them.' Her journey is quite touching. (Details are slightly dated but human interaction and background on Carnaval is good.)
Both these books are non-fiction. They don't really touch on mongering. They do give you a deep inside feel for Brasil you won't get from tour guides. For the perceptive, they will definitely help you shed those gringo airs and graces and maybe find something a bit more 'authentic' in your approach. Which some people on here at least do seem to value.[/QUOTE]Much appriciated, they sound great..
Just for information purposes i just purchaced second hand copys of these books from Amazon classed as used\good condition, the fisrt book Death in Brazil cost me 67p and the second book cost me 1 pence! As i also got free postage from Amazon, I love a bargain!
Take a look at featured video at
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]A couple of books in English that are quite good:-
A Death in Brazil, by Peter Robb.
[/QUOTE]
An excellent book, very informative about the history of Brasil and good for pretending you give a shit when entertaining young ladies that aren't on the game.
Where do garotas get those dramatic hissy fits from?
A lot of us, I suspect, have always believed the telenovas supplied the role models, the templates, the body language and histrionics, and even some of the scripts.
Statistics? I just came across this article that (amusingly) supports the idea that yes, telenovas still influence social behaviour.
[url="http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13278424"]soap, sex and sociology[/url].
Hi Christopherd,
Don't you think that telenovas is a mirror of the sosiety itself, and by that the influence goes 2 ways. And not only one way.
Just a tought.
Greetings
Chico
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Where do garotas get those dramatic hissy fits from?
A lot of us, I suspect, have always believed the telenovas supplied the role models, the templates, the body language and histrionics, and even some of the scripts.
Statistics? I just came across this article that (amusingly) supports the idea that yes, telenovas still influence social behaviour.
[url="http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13278424"]soap, sex and sociology[/url].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicobarca]Hi Christopherd,
Don't you think that telenovas is a mirror of the sosiety itself, and by that the influence goes 2 ways. And not only one way.
Just a tought.
Greetings
Chico[/QUOTE]
Personally? Not really. They're very simplistic. The audiences even [i]prefer[/i] bad actors (as long as they look nice). The influence from society is more along the lines of which way the telenova plot should develop, and probably less so nowadays than in the past.
Marco,
Another great book I would suggest you is "Rio de Janeiro" by Ruy Castro, a Carioca. It's beautifully written, very entertaining about the story of the Marvelous City from its earliest days. It goes deeply into the making of the city and has a very extensive section Carnaval and its origins, which is quite interesting. It's a small little book, the type that you can't put down until you're done with it and you easily finish it in a couple of days. Highly recommended.
Another classic, but a bit dated is The Brazilians, it's quite a big book, goes a good indepth analysis of Brasil, the society, the history and the politics. A must read to anyone truly interested into understanding Brasil. Again, the book is dated from 1994 but it's a very enlightening, informatve and entertaining read and puts into perspective some of the behaviours one encounters in Brasil on a daily basis. (I don't have the book handy at this moment so can't tell you the name of the author, but it's a big book, around 550 pages and with a colorful cover showing Guanabara Bay with the Corcovado and Pao de Acucar).
[QUOTE=Marcop 12]If anyone has any good books to recommend that would be great. I guess i prefer real life books, reality.
I[/QUOTE]
* One of my favourite brazilian authors is Jorge Amado. You should read "Gabriela, Cravo e Canela", "Tocaia Grande" and "Terras do Sem Fim". If you know Bahia you will enjoy his books very much.
* Euclides da Cunha's book "Os sertões" is excellent.
* Not one of my favourite authors, but still readable, is Machado de Assis.
* We must not forget Paulo Coelho. He has written a lot of good books. Maybe a monger would enjoy "Onze Minutos".
* João Ubaldo Ribeiro, "Viva o Povo Brasileiro". Interesting book.
Os Sertoes is truly a classic, haven't read it yet, but is on my to read list.
As well as another mega Brasilian classic (Casa Grande e Senzala) a masterful study of the Brasilian society in the 1930's by Gilberto Freyre.
A guerra no fim do mundo is another classic.
Those 2 should keep you busy a good little while but they are very interesting.
[QUOTE=Sperto]* One of my favourite brazilian authors is Jorge Amado. You should read "Gabriela, Cravo e Canela", "Tocaia Grande" and "Terras do Sem Fim". If you know Bahia you will enjoy his books very much.
* Euclides da Cunha's book "Os sertões" is excellent.
* Not one of my favourite authors, but still readable, is Machado de Assis.
* We must not forget Paulo Coelho. He has written a lot of good books. Maybe a monger would enjoy "Onze Minutos".
* João Ubaldo Ribeiro, "Viva o Povo Brasileiro". Interesting book.[/QUOTE]If you can could send me the list of books to my mail box, I am interested in reading some literature from Brasil.
Thanks buddy
[QUOTE=Hughdad]But Skype now has a mobile application. I would assume I would still need to unlock my iphone to use Skype in Brazil correct? Even if I had no intention of using the AT&T iphone services abroad? ...[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can download Skype and Truphone mobile versions both for the Iphone and for Symbian (Nokia) phones. They work great!
I now do long international calls, talking on my Iphone, walking in my hotel room, over the Wifi. No need to unlock your phone, as no telecoms carrier is being used: only the Wifi.
Skype is free. Calls outside of the Skype network to landline or mobile phones are being charged, but the rate is 3 to 4 times cheaper than your phone operator.
Regards. B.B.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Os Sertoes is truly a classic, haven't read it yet, but is on my to read list.
As well as another mega Brasilian classic (Casa Grande e Senzala) a masterful study of the Brasilian society in the 1930's by Gilberto Freyre.
A guerra no fim do mundo is another classic.
Those 2 should keep you busy a good little while but they are very interesting.[/QUOTE]
Os sertoes is a difficult book to read. Not only you need an extensive knowledge of Brazil's history (the Canudos war for instance) but the style belongs to another era. Take for instance the opening chapter: it,s a long geographic description of the site where evolves the story. Well written but kind of tedious.
I prefer author of the modernist period, such as Oswaldo de Andrade (like his Memorias sentimentais de João Miramar) or books of Antônio Machado de Alcântara. My favorite one is Brás, Bexiga e Barra Funda which relates short stories of poor italians immigrants in these district of São Paulo.
For me the real masterpiece of Brazil literature is João Guimarães Rosa's Grande Sertão.
When it comes to contemporary authors, I like Rubem Fonseca, Patricia Melo, Tony Bellotto, or Luiz Alfredo Garcia-Rosa (these are detectives stories).
Last month, I've read Fonseca's Secreções, excreções e desatinos (contos, 2001). The title tells eveything...
When it comes to poetry Manuel Bandeira, João Cabral Melo Neto, Haroldo de Campos and Ivan Junqueira are my favorite one.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Yes, you can download Skype and Truphone mobile versions both for the Iphone and for Symbian (Nokia) phones. They work great!
I now do long international calls, talking on my Iphone, walking in my hotel room, over the Wifi. No need to unlock your phone, as no telecoms carrier is being used: only the Wifi.
Skype is free. Calls outside of the Skype network to landline or mobile phones are being charged, but the rate is 3 to 4 times cheaper than your phone operator.
Regards. B.B.[/QUOTE]Thanks B. B., much appreciated. I have been using the Skype webcam video calling feature as I launch my new international business. What a great free service as I can connect with my colleagues in various offices around the world and do unlimited FREE video conferencing. Also great for personal use. Watching your friend's kids grow up in other countries, or watching a lady friend in another country do a little show for you! Some unique businesses are emerging around Skype (video dating, video language tutoring.)
I assume I still should shut off the data updating in the iphone when in Brazil. As it will not be needed for Skype usage. And this will eliminate those high fees.
Thanks again.
Sui Generis,
You're right about Os Sertoes, I heard that too that it's not an easy read, but nonetheless a very good read.
Since you also mention short stories, a few years ago, I don't remember whether it was in Brasilia or Curitiba, but I picked up a wonderful book called
"Os cem melhores contos brasileiros do seculo" (The 100 best brasilian short stories of the century). It's a big book, about 600 pages, a collection of the best short stories from Brasil. A good read for anyone interested in learning more about the country and getting exposed to the different Brasilian writters's style of the past 100 years. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. All the classic authors have contributed to this collection (Rubem Fonseca, Clarice Lispector, Rubem Braga, Machado de Assis, Lima Barreto, Mario de Andrade etc...).
Thanks for your books suggestion, I will look for them.
After watchng the UFC last night, it occured to me that there must be thousands of fighters in the Rio area. Does anyone know where I can go to see some UFC style fighting in Rio?
Can anyone recommend any apartments rented by owner in or near the Centro area? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Bravo]After watchng the UFC last night, it occured to me that there must be thousands of fighters in the Rio area. Does anyone know where I can go to see some UFC style fighting in Rio?[/QUOTE]
If you do not get a specific answer to this, ask at Kise Sucos on the corner of Miguel Lemos and N.S. de Copacabana. They used to sponsor a local fighter.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]... I assume I still should shut off the data updating in the iphone when in Brazil. As it will not be needed for Skype usage. And this will eliminate those high fees.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
Definitely. You must switch off the data updating on your iphone, otherwise you would be charged tens or even hundreds of dollars for a few emails, or a few looks to Google maps.
I know ... I paid the damned bills ...
B.B.
Brazil will be in a 'state of grace' if Rio hosts Games: Lula
(AFP) – 6 hours ago
NEW YORK — Brazil would enter a 'state of grace' should Rio de Janeiro become the first South American city to host the Olympics, said President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva here on Tuesday.
The 63-year-old - here for the United Nations General Assembly - said that Rio would try to convince the electorate of 100-plus International Olympic Committee (IOC) members in Copenhagen that they could offer more than their three rivals.
Chicago, Tokyo - the only one of the quartet to previously host the Olympics - and Madrid, third last time for the 2012 Games, are the other bid cities who will learn their fate on October 2.
"Brazil is convinced that Rio de Janeiro can offer just as much as the other three candidates, if not a little more," said Lula, who has been actively lobbying for the Games.
"For Brazil, the Olympic Games will be confirmation of the people's self-esteem.
"The Brazilian people are the most cheerful people in the world. Brazil will enter a state of grace if they are selected to host the Olympic Games."
Lula, president of Brazil since 2002 and re-elected in 2006, said that it would not just be a games for Rio.
"We are guaranteeing the participation of Brazilian society in the organisation of the Games," said Lula.
"We will show our extraordinary potential."
Lula, a twice married father of five whose first wife died, also took a swipe at the fact that the majority of Games had been held on just two continents.
"The Olympic Games should not just be European or North American Games, but for the entire world."
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]The only way brazil gets it is if they pay off the committee more than other countries. It becomes a war of bribes and payoffs.[/QUOTE]And you have been a member of the Olympic Committee for how long?
I think this has been posted before but despite searching can't find the post.
I have made change of plans and having couple uplanned days in Rio, only problem is it falls just before the revellion package deals and I'm going else where for revellion. So can't get hotel (which isn't too much of a problem) But my luggage is, Does anyone know secure lockers or somewhere I can leave my luggage for a couple of days?
I plan to just 'slum' it. In nosso or sinless for a couple of nights.
I've tried my usual hotels in Copa and apartment guys but due to the dates 27th\28th Dec they are saying falls on package, just a rip of and won't be staying in either hotel again, same hotel I checked in 26th and left 31st last year and no package deal issues and regularly stayed for past few years in same place, so appears packages start early now! I was underimpression was from 30th.
If any one had similar problem and managed to get hotel on decent rate would be much appriciated the info.
I'm also figuring trying closer to the date as yes all hotels\apartments will be booked for revellion but if someone booked from 30th or 31st might get lucky for the couple of days I need it. Worth trying for anyone in similar situation.
If all fails with luggage stash and hotel will just have to miss out on some action and go straight to revellion destination. Well a delay for a week or so anyways.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]So your saying the committee system is not corrupt? The country who gives out the most payolla will get it. Brazil is used to getting bribes now lets see if they like it the other way.[/QUOTE]What I am saying is it is so easy for someone like you that has zero connection to the IOC to make claims about corruption. Yes, there is some degree of corruption in politics everywhere - and certainly the government in Brazil has had its' share.
But I am sure you have no first-hand knowledge or experience in the workings of the IOC. Sure, the bidding countries lavish the committee members with amazing trips, outtings and parties when they are touring their cities in hopes of winning the bid. But, with the heavy oversight of the IOC it would be damn near impossible for a host city to bribe their way to get the Olympic games. There are just so many other considerations. The fact of the matter is that the Rio committee did an amazing job of putting together a stunning master plan for hosting and running the 2016 games. A plan that would transform Rio, and serve to promote the amazing transformation that is taking place as Brazil ascends on the world stage. Perhaps you think so little of the committee's work that you believe the only way they can land the games is to buy them. Or perhaps you never took the time to reveiew their plans. Or perhaps you are simply a conspiracy theory guy that believes everything is corrupt - and there is no place in the world for rewarding those that have vision, work relentlessly hard and look to do things the right way.
So, what I am saying is either you present your proof that the IOC will take a bribe to grant the 2016 Games to a city or stop making your claims.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Its also easy for someone to defend an organization that is so vile and utterly corrupt. I dont have have to show proof but maybe you can proof they are not. Rio cant even help their own people so what kind of vision is that? A vision to make the undeserving superrich richer. So I really dont accept your labels as conspiracy theory guy because its usually someone that goes along with the status quo aka the good old boy system that makes those kind of snickering remarks.
The ioc is utterly corrupt and vile organization of ruthless corrupt thugs.[/QUOTE]
Superman vs Batman?
Maybe you should read Mitt Romney's book [i]Turnaround[/i] on how he lead the effort to cleanup the IOC.
[QUOTE=Marak5]They also have a beach with escorts but I forgot the name. Search the internet for it.[/QUOTE]
I think it might be Cococabana.
It has been mentioned here before.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Its also easy for someone to defend an organization that is so vile and utterly corrupt. I dont have have to show proof but maybe you can proof they are not. Rio cant even help their own people so what kind of vision is that? A vision to make the undeserving superrich richer. So I really dont accept your labels as conspiracy theory guy because its usually someone that goes along with the status quo aka the good old boy system that makes those kind of snickering remarks.
The ioc is utterly corrupt and vile organization of ruthless corrupt thugs.[/QUOTE]I am not defending the IOC, I am taking issue with your claim the Olympics game can be simply sold to the country that makes the highest bribe. It is such a broad and simple statement. There are just too many other considerations - and far more oversight than in the past - factored into the decision. And you also just entirely dismiss all the hard work that the city committees do in developing plans that not only can support the games - but using the preparation for the games to create a long-term better world for its' citizens post-Olympics. If you noticed, I acknowledged in my post that corruption is everywhere in politics. It certainly plays a big role in everyday US politics in the form of PACs, special interest lobbying groups, etc.
But that is not what is really important here. Who cares about the IOC. As far as vision goes - do you not have any vision beyond what you see as you walk the streets of Rio today. Do you not see that the Olympics creates many, many jobs for many years in many sectors (construction, transportation, hospitality, engineering, etc.) Do you not see that the games can create opportunities for many to better themselves if they want. Do you not see that the games can unify and lift the spirit of a city/country, and elevate it even more on the world stage. Brazil is becoming a major player on the world stage - this could be a major catalyst to fostering and accelerating further growth and change. Sure, it will create many more opportunities for the rich to get richer too. And foreign investments will pour in (even more than now.) But I know some guys that had start-up companies in Salt Lake City and LA that put their companies on the map because of the opportunities to work on Olympic projects there. Normal guys that saw the opportunity and made small fortunes.
Yes, Rio would change forever. Change is happening and this would certainly accelerate it. If you looked at the master plan you could see what a post-Olympics Rio would look like - and this could transform it and improve the lives of many. Of course, many of the bargain basement mongers on this site may not like some of the changes that it could bring.
Or you can simply take the position that everything in Brazil is corrupt and poor and why should anyone try to improve anything. What good does that defeatous attitude do anyone? Sure the good ole' boys will always continue to get fatter everywhere in the world. But the opportunities for all will be greatly enhanced. Can we agree on that?
[QUOTE=Marak5]They have the Olympic Committees seeing what's going on.
Chicago needs the Olympics worse. Maybe they would have something like the Terma in Chicago if they get the Olympics in 2016.
Rio is not that bad. I have been there one time, I'd go back.
The termas are good. They have a shower and you wear a robe into the night club area. The girls wear bikinis. Then you buy drinks and chat and you can pick a girl. Some dance and some sit around.
You go to a room for maybe 200 reals. You can pay for more time or get another girl.
Then they have razors.
I have been to Monte Carlo and Centaurus. Monte Carlo is preferred.
Once you get back to the USA it is a *****, you crave more.
They have a night club named Help. It is a regular night club and they have many ladies there. I would be cautious taking the girl out. Maybe go to the hotel instead of your apartment. They might get interested in your belongings, know what I'm saying.
They also have lounges with many ladies available. You sit and get drinks and then negotiate a price. Barbarella's is very good. I think the other lounge I went to was Frank's. They have several others.
They claim to have live sex shows but I have never seen one. I walked into a club, they said it was going on but I didn't catch it.
The hotels are nice. I would ask the girl or taxi to recommend a hotel.
It is usually better for an hourly hotel.
Maybe in Chicago they would have the same for 2016.
You can set up sex parties with 8 or 10 girls or more. I do not know the price, I have never done it. You rent a room and order the girls from the escort services.
They also have a beach with escorts but I forgot the name. Search the internet for it.[/QUOTE]"And you - Lee Harvey - that story about the sheep. I want to party with you cowboy...."
[QUOTE=Marak5]They also have a beach with escorts but I forgot the name. Search the internet for it.[/QUOTE]
Praia das Putas??
I keep on posting something that maybe it is not new for the expert here, but that can be good for the others.
Aipo Aipim
It is food for weight, there are 2 or 3 in nossa senhora de copacabana, I was used to eat there daily. For me it has great food and if I remember well it is 3,2 reais every 100 gr, so far as I eat from 1 till 1,2 kg, with drinks I ended to pay something close to 40 reais. I thought it was the best one till my buddy did not show me the second one:
Monchique
It became my favourite one, cause you pay 22 reais and it is all you can eat. Basically it has the same food of Aipo, despite the fruits, but you have also churrascaria included, it means all the meat you want and good ones. I went there daily and I always spend something about 26-28 reais, so much cheaper than Aipo and think that if you stay in Rio one month you will save about 300 reais for same stuff....
Siqueira Grill
The same as Aipo, but a bit more expensive for same stuff.
Capricciosa
High price, but it is where I got the best pizza in all the Brazil, so I will surely go there again next time.
Porcao
Very famous one, at the entrance you see many photos of famous people that maybe went there. Tom Cruise, Ronaldo and many others.
All you can eat churrascaria and buffet without dessert you pay 69 reais ( at least the one in Ipanema ), but it is pretty overcharged cause even if inside looks really nice, basically you end to eat the more or less same stuff as Monchique for almost 350% higher price.
Yes maybe the food looks a bit different, but once you taste, it is the same.
I went there just for curiosity and it was my first and last time, unless I will have to go out with a girl.
Marius
I love fish, so even if it is very expensive, all you can eat fish with all included but drinks is 166 reais, it worth to see at least once.
Now last week it really disappointed me, in january I went there twice, cause the buffet of fishes was much smaller and also the fishes the take to your table were very little choice.
My bill was 166+ 5 reais (1 beer ) + 4 reais ( one coffee ) + 21 reais for service and this really pissed me off !!!
So the bill was 196 reais, it means with the same money of Marius you eat almost 8 times at Monchique.
I am not cheap when I am in holiday, but I prefer to save money with everything but pussy and I guess next time I will cook fish in my kitchen, spending much less and maybe for even better results.
I hope it helps :)
P.S. Two questions:
-Now a question, when you see service in the bill, as the 21 reais at Marius, you can easily avoid to pay it or not ?
-If I want another option where to eat fish, good fish, where I can go, so far at Marius they will never see me again ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Marius,
I love fish, so even if it is very expensive, all you can eat fish with all included but drinks is 166 reais, it worth to see at least once.
Now last week it really disappointed me, in january I went there twice, cause the buffet of fishes was much smaller and also the fishes the take to your table were very little choice.
My bill was 166+ 5 reais (1 beer ) + 4 reais ( one coffee ) + 21 reais for service and this really pissed me off!
So the bill was 196 reais, it means with the same money of Marius you eat almost 8 times at Monchique.[/QUOTE]Yes, Marius is really expensive. I went there for lunch with a special GDP friend. They also tried to pad my bill for the bread they brought out first (which we did not eat.) The atmosphere was nice and fun (the bathroom is really funky). My lady friend had never been there and always wanted to go so I surprised her one afternoon. She was so happy and she slowly savored every bite. She ate more lobster than I ever witnessed one person eat during one setting. (How do some of these slim, sexy ladies eat so much?!) It was such a turn-on just watching her eat (it helped that she was rubbing my crotch with her foot). She enjoyed herself so much she hung out with the rest of the day and night. So while I spent nearly R$400 for both of us with drinks and dessert for her, I ended up having a great GFE situation and having tons of great sex. I swear her pussy tasted like lobster with drawn butter (I should have wore a lobster bib I did DATY so long!)
A few months ago, a dinner at Monchique gave me the runs. It was f#$king bad. I was to leave that night, however, the plane had mech problems. Good thing! It hit me at the hotel where the airline put me up. Man o man, if i would have flown, my seat assignment would have been WC.
It has been 4 or 5 years since I last visited Marius. I do remember spending approx. R$400 for myself, and date. That was back when we got R$2.5+ per USD. Love the seafood there. Nice place.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]P.S. Two questions:
-If I want another option where to eat fish, good fish, where I can go, so far at Marius they will never see me again ?[/QUOTE]
Try this:
Shirley
Cuisine Spanish
Hours Daily 11am-midnight
Address Rua Gustavo Sampaio 620
Location Leme, Copacabana
Transportation Metrô: Integração. Bus from Metrô: Cardeal Arcoverde to Leme or bus 472
Phone 021/2275-1398
Prices Main courses R$26-R$56 (US$13-US$28/£7-£15); most are for 2 people
Credit Cards No credit cards
Read more: [url]http://www.frommers.com/destinations/riodejaneiro/D58439.html#ixzz0SBeDxd8x[/url]
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Try this:
Shirley
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I have been eating at Shirley's for many years. Very good seafood at reasonable prices.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yes, Marius is really expensive. I went there for lunch with a special GDP friend. They also tried to pad my bill for the bread they brought out first (which we did not eat.)[/QUOTE]
At most restaurants in Rio (Carretão is one exception), there often is a charge for that little basket of bread and such that they bring before the meal (couvert). If you do not speak Portuguese and can ask if it is included in the price of your meal and you do not want to pay for it, wave your finger (no not that one - your index finger) back and forth and say não. The waiter will take it away. When paying review the bill and make sure you were not charged.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]At most restaurants in Rio (Carretão is one exception), there often is a charge for that little basket of bread and such that they bring before the meal (couvert). If you do not speak Portuguese and can ask if it is included in the price of your meal and you do not want to pay for it, wave your finger (no not that one - your index finger) back and forth and say não. The waiter will take it away. When paying review the bill and make sure you were not charged.[/QUOTE]Exactly, we refused the bread and they still tried to pad the bill for it.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Yes, Marius is really expensive.[/QUOTE]
That is an understatement, It is worth trying once!
Glad you enjoyed your meal, but I personally would not take a GDP for a R400 lunch@ Marius.
Do try to get off the tourist trail restaurants if you have time. There are many wonderful eating places, for instance, in Botafogo, Flamengo, and Botanico to discover that aren't in the guide books. It also means you get your GDP (if she looks respectable and you have an acceptable level of social chemistry) out of the meat-market trail where she is displayed and can report back on how much you spent on her. Most GDPs know those places that are in every guide book, almost like a badge of honour. In fact it may probably be the only bit of those locales she's ever seen. Get her out of the hamster wheel resorts and you'll discover a whole different side of her (assuming that's what you are interested in). :)
[QUOTE=Buscemi]That is an understatement, It is worth trying once!
Glad you enjoyed your meal, but I personally would not take a GDP for a R400 lunch@ Marius.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's a GDP but she's become more of a cool party buddy. She's introduced me to some friends of her's (including having one join us a few times in bed). She's taken me out to bars and to listen to music. I made her dinner a few times in my apartment. She's also helped me translate some things for some meetings I had. I treated her to Marius for her birthday - and I wanted to check it out myself as I heard alot about it and was in Rio by myself. We ate so much at lunch that we did not need dinner and we were both full the next morning.
But think about this: I spent about R$200 on her meal, drinks and dessert and I got a whole afternoon and evening of her fun company afterwards at the beach and back in my apartment - and unlimited sex - all for free. What does that equate to: R$15/hour or R$50 per pop? Of course, that is if you are thinking about purely in monetary terms. Many guys here spend that (or more) for a few hours with someone they pull from Help. So still a bargain if you want to view it that way.
But I view it as a great day at the beach and in bed. One of the best days I've ever had in Rio - and that is saying something.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Do try to get off the tourist trail restaurants if you have time. There are many wonderful eating places, for instance, in Botafogo, Flamengo, and Botanico to discover that aren't in the guide books. It also means you get your GDP (if she looks respectable and you have an acceptable level of social chemistry) out of the meat-market trail where she is displayed and can report back on how much you spent on her. Most GDPs know those places that are in every guide book, almost like a badge of honour. In fact it may probably be the only bit of those locales she's ever seen. Get her out of the hamster wheel resorts and you'll discover a whole different side of her (assuming that's what you are interested in). :)[/QUOTE]Yes, definately interested in venturing out more and visiting some of the "local" restaurants and bars mentioned here. That Shirley's sounds great. I've visited Centro a lot last trip. I would not go to Marius a second time. I prefer the out-of-the-way places that locals like when I travel.
Thanks
Hi, I'd like to know your experience. If you know as Colombia as Brazil, could tell me what is more expensive? Are girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia?
Thanks
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I'd like to know your experience. If you know as Colombia as Brazil, could tell me what is more expensive? Are girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Colombia is much cheaper than Brasil. I found prices there to be similar to the Buenos Aires ones.
IMO girls in Brasil hotter than Colombianas. It's more common to get PSE in Brasil than Colombia.
Colombianas have prettier faces and larger boobs on average than Brasileirinhas. But not too many mulatas there. Only Triquenas.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]How do some of these slim, sexy ladies eat so much?[/QUOTE]
It's called bulimia. Does she go into the bathroom within a half hour after eating? That is usually a clue.
Hughdad instead of bread plate, last time at Marius they charged me the dessert when I thought it was all included, as indeed, this time was, so I guess they low a bit the price, maybe cause september is low season and not much customer or for the crisi too.
Maybe I will not take a GDP there, but one regular one, who knows...zero zero had more than one that I will not regret to have close to me even at Marius :)
Amerioca thanks for sharing, do you think it is due to low quality of food at Monchique ? Cause what you had, can happens in Brazil. I was afraid at Marius, as oysters, but luckily nothing happens.
Sangue Bon thanks too, next time I will go for sure to Shirley, mainly cause I still never been to Leme and it is in my plan during my third time to Rio to explore as much as I can out of copa.
So I agree with Christopherd too, I am a bit lazy, specially if I am in holiday for short period as this time, 11 days, but I am sure there are tons of restaurants good for quality and price that you will not find in lonely planet.
I guess only when you go out of copa you start to discover the real Rio and to see how do they look like cariocas.
About this, so far as we are in general info, I was surprised to see ipanema this time, it looks for a second timer as me, so much different from copa, it seems a distric of only building and apartments with almost no internet cafe, juice shop, laundry and so on that I had the feeling if you live there, you almost need a car. For the lack of bars and restaurants in avenida atlantica looks to me as boring in comparison to copa, where it is seems much more practical as every next door you find all you need.
But on opposite side, ipanema to me looks much much more elegant and class than copa, with almost no gringo.
So close to copa, but it seems another city, so I am asking now, how many of you actually in Rio stay in copa and how many stay in ipanema ?
I have the feeling, but I know I can be totally wrong, where in copa you almost never meet regular girls in ipanema you never meet pros.
Anybody who would like to share some POV about stay or living in ipanema VS copa ?
Thanks in advance guys.
[QUOTE=Marak5]Brazil VP says country should build nuclear arms.
This is weird. Article just posted today.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9AUCIKG0&show_article=1[/url][/QUOTE]
The Brazilian Constitution only allows nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hughdad instead of bread plate, last time at Marius they charged me the dessert when I thought it was all included, as indeed, this time was, so I guess they low a bit the price, maybe cause september is low season and not much customer or for the crisi too.
Maybe I will not take a GDP there, but one regular one, who knows...zero zero had more than one that I will not regret to have close to me even at Marius :)
[/quote]Although the bread thing is common and it's best to ask, since overcharging at tourist traps like Marius is also common.
[quote]I was afraid at Marius, as oysters, but luckily nothing happens.[/quote]You'll get fabulous oysters [url="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=4798401437989909330&q=restaurants+gourmet&hl=en"]here[/url] and without the pomp and circumstance. btw this restaurant IMHO is in a different class to other ones in the chain (such as the one in Copa, which personally I wouldn't touch).
[quote]next time I will go for sure to Shirley, mainly cause I still never been to Leme and it is in my plan during my third time to Rio to explore as much as I can out of copa.[/quote]Easy walking distance but there are a great number of decent restaurants round there. Personally I have always been disappointed with the quality of the very-hyped food in Shirleys. It can also be rather crowded. I think the reviews in LonelyPlanet etc are very old. But having said that it still has a good following so maybe I am consistently unlucky or spoilt by places where there's room to change your mind without fighting past cramped tables to go outside. Leme is nice and compact. You can explore the nice shops, do the beach, check out which restaurants look appealing and make a reservation if needed. Quite a few have live music ranging from contemporary to classical.
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It seems a distric of only building and apartments with almost no internet cafe, juice shop, laundry and so on that I had the feeling if you live there, you almost need a car. For the lack of bars and restaurants in avenida atlantica looks to me as boring in comparison to copa, where it is seems much more practical as every next door you find all you need.
But on opposite side, ipanema to me looks much much more elegant and class than copa, with almost no gringo.
So close to copa, but it seems another city, so I am asking now, how many of you actually in Rio stay in copa and how many stay in ipanema ? . . . where in copa you almost never meet regular girls in ipanema you never meet pros.
[/quote] Ipa does have all of that but is definitely more upmarket and not quite so 'built for tourists' as Copa now is. I have had aching feet many a day in Ipa. The transport is bad, the roads get clogged, and it is further and much more hassle to get to places I want to go to towards Centro. But the beach is nicer. The view is mostly nicer. It's cleaner. It's easier to meet educated people. And women do not feel quite so forced (as they do in Copa) to walk around with a badge on their forehead constantly proving and proclaiming, to anyone who wonders, that they are not a prostitute.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]It's called bulimia. Does she go into the bathroom within a half hour after eating? That is usually a clue.[/QUOTE]You ever know anyone that had bulimia? It is a very horrible and tragic disease.
thanks again for the speed of answer christopherd ;)
estação gourmet is in my list of things to try next time, funny enough as i went back home just couple of days ago and i cannot wait to go back....it seems saudade took a bit of time to born in my heart....
and it was enough just two times in rio to make me so "hungry" and curious to everything that is not full of turists, i am pretty sure i yet did not see the best part of cidade maravilhosa.
leme for example, in january i lived close to prado junior for 2 months, so close to leme and never been there neither once. i have the feeling that if you not "pay attention" you really risk to end always to the same places, terma late afternoon after beach and help at night and that 99% of turist know nothing about the real rio where as "real rio" i mean place not full of pros.
i am happy i learned from my mistakes in january, when i was in hurry, after 2 months spent in russia, to find only top notch girls without take it all easy, slow down, relax and enjoy the difference that brazil has in comparison to russia.
a week ago, thank to speaking basic portuguese, feeling better cause i know a bit more the city, that btw looked to me a bit smaller than the first time, dressing almost as brazilian one....all this gave me the chance to real taste and enjoy rio and it is only the beginning as i only saw the potencial of this city, but indeed i still saw almost nothing.
chris you are right, ipa much more cleaner and nicer and maybe even the regular girl are a bit more approachable than the ones in copa, that for the fear to be taken as pros, they pay attention to even answer to an innocent smile if did by a turist.
so my goal for the next trip is to date a normal girl and to really slow down with terma and terma and with pros. at the end is what i do here in europe and in my home town, to use pros only as last chance not as ordinary thing to.....have a shower together a nice girl i like ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
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But on opposite side, ipanema to me looks much much more elegant and class than copa, with almost no gringo.
So close to copa, but it seems another city, so I am asking now, how many of you actually in Rio stay in copa and how many stay in ipanema ?
I have the feeling, but I know I can be totally wrong, where in copa you almost never meet regular girls in ipanema you never meet pros.
Anybody who would like to share some POV about stay or living in ipanema VS copa ?
Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]
I have made 7 trips to Rio, and on my 7th trip finally stayed in Ipanema (vs Copa) because my buddy wanted to stay there. I was pretty unfamiliar with the Ipanema area, as I had only gone there a few times to eat and go to the beach. But since I was able to finally stay there for a week, I really liked it.
[b]Pros:[/b]
1) It is pretty clean there, and there are [b]so many beautiful women[/b] walking around. I hardly see that in Copa.
2) [b]Much quieter[/b] than Copa. I could actually sleep peacefully every night because there was little noise from traffic and late night revelers. In Copa, no matter where I have stayed, it just has always been so noisy.
3) Nicer beach in my opinion, with better looking garotas
4) Plenty of nice restaurants, especially if you like sushi
5) Plenty of bus stops. Well, this isn't really a pro, but a nice surprise. I thought getting around might be a problem, but there were a good number of bus stops and it only took me 10-15 minutes to get to MC or Luomo by bus, and 20 minutes to Solarium.
6) Apartment standards are higher. Of course, with that comes cost. I was able to pay R$130 (R$260/2 persons) a night for a nice place with Internet and gas heater for water, but that's because it was a 2-bedroom where I could split the cost.
[b]Cons:[/b]
1) It is further away from the Subway metro, so it's a hassle to go to Centro. I ended up taking the bus to Cantagalo station and then taking the subway to Centro. Extra R$2,20 bus fare cost each way. I also took the bus all the way to Centro once, but there were just way too many stops that it took like an hour.
2) Not as many small restaurants and juice bars as Copa
3) Most places seem to shut down by midnight, which sucks because I always have the late night munchies. There were still a couple of juice bars open 24 hours
4) Almost no cambios around. I walked into one and they were giving a rate of 1.70 which was as bad as the airport. The cambio in Copa that I go to was giving 1.90 that day.
I have actually booked an apartment in Ipanema for my next trip at a cost within my budget (R$130 a night w/ Internet). I like Copa and have normally stayed in the Posto 2 area, but I want to experience a bit more of Ipanema and also get a better night's sleep this time.
Azn Safado thanks for your POV too.
I have time to decide where to stay, but I think for a short holiday, till 10-12 days, maybe it is more practical copa, longer holidays can be fine ipa too.
Luckily I have no problem to fall asleep even with noise streets ( it helps me to not sleep too long too ).
After reading your post, I bet next time you will be back to copa.
I agree about beaches, even the water seems to me better in ipa and I liked a lot that you wrote much better looking girls in ipa ;)
What always made for me a travel from a good experience to unforgettable one was the capability to stop to be a turist and to get inside normal life of the locals. It improves a lot your chance to score a regular one instead to pay all the times you are horny.
Using autobus is just an example, even if thanks to it in Ufa I was able to date a student and it was not bad lol.
From ipa to cantagalo is short time by bus to get then to centro and short too to get to rua seabra and to planetarium in gavea in weekend days ;)
It sucks a bit to have cambio in ipa at rates of airport, but again 4,40 reais of bus till copa and it is done.
130 reais with net is not bad for ipa I guess, so I am looking forward your next report.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Azn Safado thanks for your POV too.
I have time to decide where to stay, but I think for a short holiday, till 10-12 days, maybe it is more practical copa, longer holidays can be fine ipa too.
Luckily I have no problem to fall asleep even with noise streets ( it helps me to not sleep too long too ).
After reading your post, I bet next time you will be back to copa.
I agree about beaches, even the water seems to me better in ipa and I liked a lot that you wrote much better looking girls in ipa ;)
What always made for me a travel from a good experience to unforgettable one was the capability to stop to be a turist and to get inside normal life of the locals. It improves a lot your chance to score a regular one instead to pay all the times you are horny.
Using autobus is just an example, even if thanks to it in Ufa I was able to date a student and it was not bad lol.
From ipa to cantagalo is short time by bus to get then to centro and short too to get to rua seabra and to planetarium in gavea in weekend days ;)
It sucks a bit to have cambio in ipa at rates of airport, but again 4,40 reais of bus till copa and it is done.
130 reais with net is not bad for ipa I guess, so I am looking forward your next report.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Actually, the ocean water is better in the Copa side, as the canal between Ipanema and Leblon release human crap out to sea. As for the babes on the beach, thats a different story.
I get a tan in Ipanema, but I do not get into the water. Ask the locals, they will tell you.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]You ever know anyone that had bulimia? It is a very horrible and tragic disease.[/QUOTE]
Yes, many, on a professional basis, and I have treated it professionally. Your assessment is absolutely correct. It can be, and has been, fatal.
[QUOTE=Mangera]Actually, the ocean water is better in the Copa side, as the canal between Ipanema and Leblon release human crap out to sea. As for the babes on the beach, thats a different story.
I get a tan in Ipanema, but I do not get into the water. Ask the locals, they will tell you.[/QUOTE]
One can argue over this quite a bit, but the fact is that the ocean water is extremely polluted everywhere in front of Rio de Janeiro. I wouldn't put my foot into that sewer.
If you do not believe, take a walk in the Copa fortress. Look the wake on the Copa side. See the foam and all that brown matter.... human waste.
Even in Barra da Tijuca and Recreio all shit is tunneled to the ocean.
Baia de Guanabara is WORST of them all.
One have to go quite a far from Rio to be able to swim without any worry.
[QUOTE=Perkele]One can argue over this quite a bit, but the fact is that the ocean water is extremely polluted everywhere in front of Rio de Janeiro. I wouldn't put my foot into that sewer.
If you do not believe, take a walk in the Copa fortress. Look the wake on the Copa side. See the foam and all that brown matter.... human waste.
Even in Barra da Tijuca and Recreio all shit is tunneled to the ocean.
Baia de Guanabara is WORST of them all.
One have to go quite a far from Rio to be able to swim without any worry.[/QUOTE]
Thats just another way of saying "same shit", which in this case it can be mean't literally as well :)
I never really go in the water, even though I hang out quite a bit by the beaches.
The last time I swam in the ocean (Copacabana beach) was in 1984. Even then you could notice a yellowish foam floating on the crests of the waves.
You have to go relatively far from Rio in order to find clean beaches.
As I hobby almost exclusively in São Paulo, when I want to go to the beach I go to Ubatuba or beaches located on the Norte Litoral. Next month, on my trip to Sampa I expect to visit the beaches near Santos like São Vincente or Guaruja. I expect them to be polluted but it's always good to feel the sea breeze.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]The last time I swam in the ocean (Copacabana beach) was in 1984. Even then you could notice a yellowish foam floating on the crests of the waves.
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About the same timeframe I was swimming in the water by the beach off the Rio Sheraton hotel. It was just after a rain but the sun was out, as I was relaxing in the water a dead rat floated by me, I never moved so fast in my life, haven't really been back in the water since, maybe just to get my feet wet.
I have a friend who shoots video in Rio as he walks along the edge of the water, he got some type of fungus/infection on his foot, took months to get rid of.
Back home I never tell people the water is polluted or there is a threat of violence because they would ask me: Why do you go? Can't tell everybody why. One time my friend’s wife wanted to come with us to Rio, he told me that he was going to tell her that she wouldn't like it there because the beach is polluted and there’s too much violence. I told him you better not because she'll ask you why you are going. He no longer accompanies me on my trips.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
Sangue Bon thanks too, next time I will go for sure to Shirley, mainly cause I still never been to Leme and it is in my plan during my third time to Rio to explore as much as I can out of copa.[/QUOTE]
Not a good time to discuss seafood restaurants while discussing polluted waters but here are some alternatives to Shirley:
Probably the best seafood restaurant in all of Rio is Satyricon in Ipanema, very expensive even when the dollar was getting 4 reals but very good.
Another good one in Ipanema is Margutta but again at current exchange rate, not for everyday but high end.
Then of course don't forget Dom Camilio in Copacabana, its Italian but it's also a seafood restaurant, Gamberi and risotto is my favorite.
This is not a seafood restaurant but I thought I would just throw it in and that's Jobi's in Leblon. Very popular for the residents of Leblon, small and packed all the time and I never saw a gringo in there except myself and the gringo who introduced me to it, good food, cold beer and good prices.
[QUOTE=Perkele]One can argue over this quite a bit, but the fact is that the ocean water is extremely polluted everywhere in front of Rio de Janeiro. I wouldn't put my foot into that sewer.
If you do not believe, take a walk in the Copa fortress. Look the wake on the Copa side. See the foam and all that brown matter.... human waste.
Even in Barra da Tijuca and Recreio all shit is tunneled to the ocean.
Baia de Guanabara is WORST of them all.
One have to go quite a far from Rio to be able to swim without any worry.[/QUOTE]
If this is true, then how come so many mongers love to eat seafood in Rio? I never knew they sent all thier human waste into the ocean (never eally thought about it) But knowing that now, I couldnt imagine eating fish and shrimp in rio anymore.
[QUOTE=Bravo]I never knew they sent all thier human waste into the ocean (never eally thought about it) But knowing that now, I couldnt imagine eating fish and shrimp in rio anymore.[/QUOTE]
I never knew too, but I am happy I wrote about "water" and that came out about dead rat and infections to foot....for me it is solved from now, no more sea food in Rio from now and I will think twice before to relax long time in the water.
Ipanema had a lot of problems with pollutions 10 years back, until they moved the exit of the sewer.
Being on one of the most famous beaches in the world, sweating in the sun and having lots of hot women in the waves... of course I enter. It's mostly for a dip or some bodysurfing. I can't imagine it would be that bad as the descriptions below.
The only problem I had was once when I accidently happened to catch some human faeces in my hand. :(
[QUOTE=Bravo]If this is true, then how come so many mongers love to eat seafood in Rio? I never knew they sent all thier human waste into the ocean (never eally thought about it) But knowing that now, I couldnt imagine eating fish and shrimp in rio anymore.[/QUOTE]
Well. I never eat seafood in Rio. Only when I'm traveling in Brasil. Now I'm in Recife and the food is great here.
Of course I do not know if the shit goes straight to ocean, but water is much cleaner here.
If you go up to Sugar Loaf and look down to the ocean, the water at Copacabana beach looks greenish blue, while the water in the bay next to Leblond and Centro looks black like mud.
It's obvious that Rio's sewage and municipal wastes are pumped out into that bay. The contaminations would gradually spread out into the surrounding water. The ocean water in Copacabana does smell like sewage. It's not smart to dunk around in water that carries human wastes of million of people for decades.
The water over Ipanema looks cleaner but the beaches are littered with trash of every kinds. The water in resort town, Buzzio, is also heavily contaminated with sewage.
There are many beaches in other parts of the world that are beautiful, clean, healthy, fun. Rio is very low on the list. I was told by my Brazilian friends that Southern parts of Brazil have far cleaner beaches and more beautiful women of the blonde hair, fair skin types.
Going back to my original comment about beaches, and where I said the Ipanema one was nicer, that's just what I meant. I'm not a swimmer and rarely go in the water. But the beach (ie the bit with sand duh) is nicer in Ipanema. It's more upmarket, the view is generally better (high class bunda), the hawkers are maybe slightly less intrusive, it's just generally a 'better' area. But as Copa still wins hands down for me I usually just use the Leme bit of beach, which I find slightly less hassled than a lot of the Copa postos.
For clean bathing, you do have to go quite a way.
I'd suggest Koh Samui. The north side. ;) ;)
[QUOTE=Bravo]If this is true, then how come so many mongers love to eat seafood in Rio? I never knew they sent all thier human waste into the ocean (never eally thought about it) But knowing that now, I couldnt imagine eating fish and shrimp in rio anymore.[/QUOTE]
Well you would think that fishing would take place far from shore in deeper clean waters, I hope.
At the fort itself in Copacabana there is a fish market, the fish loooks good, I never had it but I never heard of anyone getting sick from eating the fish in Rio.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Marco,
Another great book I would suggest you is "Rio de Janeiro" by Ruy Castro, a Carioca.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, Sprite. My copy arrived today. :)
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Not a good time to discuss seafood restaurants while discussing polluted waters but here are some alternatives to Shirley:
Probably the best seafood restaurant in all of Rio is Satyricon in Ipanema, very expensive even when the dollar was getting 4 reals but very good.
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I think the quality on the whole is probably more consistent in Ipanema if nothing else. In Copa I mostly like to cook my own (fishmonger on Prado or even see what the Prado/Castro mini supermarket has - not [I]all[/I] of their stuff is past its best-by date lol).
One seafood restaurant I feel is very overhyped is the seafood version of Marius. Even if you're a fan of the meat version (which is good, if pricey), the idea doesn't travel well to seafood. By the time it's reached my table it has mostly been overcooked or no longer the correct temperature.
The author mentions several times that his objective for writing this book was making money to finance future sexual tourism trips. It is obvious that it was not written for the benefit of the reader since most of the content is not the author’s firsthand experiences, but taken (without the original author’s knowledge or permission in at least one case) from the internet. The book is 210 pages, double-spaced and in large font type which means it is more like 50 pages. The book reads more like a high school book report that the student waited until the last weekend to write than a travelogue.
Often the author distorts facts for effect. “In Rio, you’ll find brothels in shopping malls, across the street from churches, and next door to banks. As you weave through the throngs of shoppers … it’s impossible to miss the garish sign for …, a *****house on the top level of an open air mall.” In reality, the brothel is located far away from the majority of pedestrian foot traffic and the sign is barely noticeable from the street.
The highlight of the book, if there is one, is when the author writes about something that has nothing to do with sexual tourism, but is about his appearance on the web site [url]http://www.bethemask.com/tour1/brittneyskye/brittney3/index.htm?[/url] where he has sex while his face is covered in a Mexican wrestling mask.
Given that the majority of the book is taken from the internet and not original content, save your money and simply do an internet search of your favorite destination. I purchased the book on Amazon which fortunately has a return policy. Sorry, Joe, not going to be financing your trip on my dollars.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]The author mentions several times that his objective for writing this book was making money to finance future sexual tourism trips. It is obvious that it was not written for the benefit of the reader since most of the content is not the author’s firsthand experiences, but taken (without the original author’s knowledge or permission in at least one case) from the internet. The book is 210 pages, double-spaced and in large font type which means it is more like 50 pages. The book reads more like a high school book report that the student waited until the last weekend to write than a travelogue.
Often the author distorts facts for effect. “In Rio, you’ll find brothels in shopping malls, across the street from churches, and next door to banks. As you weave through the throngs of shoppers … it’s impossible to miss the garish sign for …, a *****house on the top level of an open air mall.” In reality, the brothel is located far away from the majority of pedestrian foot traffic and the sign is barely noticeable from the street.
The highlight of the book, if there is one, is when the author writes about something that has nothing to do with sexual tourism, but is about his appearance on the web site [url]http://www.bethemask.com/tour1/brittneyskye/brittney3/index.htm?[/url] where he has sex while his face is covered in a Mexican wrestling mask.
Given that the majority of the book is taken from the internet and not original content, save your money and simply do an internet search of your favorite destination. I purchased the book on Amazon which fortunately has a return policy. Sorry, Joe, not going to be financing your trip on my dollars.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this.
Another grubby hand to dodge
Which one is superior considering costs and quality and beauty of women? Which country has less dark skin women?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
Often the author distorts facts for effect. “In Rio, you’ll find brothels in shopping malls, across the street from churches, and next door to banks. As you weave through the throngs of shoppers … it’s impossible to miss the garish sign for …, a *****house on the top level of an open air mall.” In reality, the brothel is located far away from the majority of pedestrian foot traffic and the sign is barely noticeable from the street.
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L'Uomo is actuallly located in a 'shopping mall', 30 yards from a 'church' / place of worship which is also located in the same mall at the same level.
On Sunday night, it gets really crowded. I've seen people/children wandering the halls of the mall.
L'Uomo/ MC/ Centaurus are all located in residential areas. Got to do with the crazy zoning system in Brazil.
Not complaining, just stating facts.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]L'Uomo is actuallly located in a 'shopping mall', 30 yards from a 'church' / place of worship which is also located in the same mall at the same level.
On Sunday night, it gets really crowded. I've seen people/children wandering the halls of the mall.
L'Uomo/ MC/ Centaurus are all located in residential areas. Got to do with the crazy zoning system in Brazil.
Not complaining, just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, maybe he was there on a Sunday night and overheard all the little kids say, "mommy, mommy, look at the garish sign."
The book and the author is full of crap. I was being kind in my review and picked a passage that most could identify as hyperbole.
Not complaining, just stating facts.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]L'Uomo is actuallly located in a 'shopping mall', 30 yards from a 'church' / place of worship which is also located in the same mall at the same level.[/QUOTE]
I thought the church that was on the same floor as Luomo moved. Could somebody please verify if the church is there or not. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Cool]Which one is superior considering costs and quality and beauty of women? Which country has less dark skin women?[/QUOTE]
Well, if it was a soccer match between both..........there is your answer.
[QUOTE=The Watcher]I thought the church that was on the same floor as Luomo moved. Could somebody please verify if the church is there or not. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Why? Are you interested in becoming a congregant?
[QUOTE=The Watcher]I thought the church that was on the same floor as Luomo moved. Could somebody please verify if the church is there or not. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I do not know about luomo, but for solarium, go out and to left, end of the street again to left and you have one church, IHIH.
[QUOTE=Mangera]Well, if it was a soccer match between both..........there is your answer.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Mangera.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]L'Uomo is actuallly located in a 'shopping mall', 30 yards from a 'church' / place of worship which is also located in the same mall at the same level.
On Sunday night, it gets really crowded. I've seen people/children wandering the halls of the mall.
L'Uomo/ MC/ Centaurus are all located in residential areas. Got to do with the crazy zoning system in Brazil.
Not complaining, just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
Its not a shopping mall as most of the western world would know it. Its a collection of antique shops and a supermarket in a cockroach infested predio. I used to live in it, cheap rent nice view of Christo and a nice little knocking shop an elevator ride away.
L'Uomo is not really in the "shopping mall" is it? Its not a case of looking at the store guide and seeing it listed under brothel. It is discreetly tucked away on the outside.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Why? Are you interested in becoming a congregant?[/QUOTE]
No, I do not want to join that church. When I was last there in June, the church appeared to be closed. I could be wrong - as they say, it would not be the first time and certainly not the last. That is why I wanted verification.
[QUOTE=Perkele]I hardly ever participate these talks, but now.
1. L'uomo isn't located in shopping mall. What ever you may think.
2. The sign isn't relly visible to the street. One may see it IF one knows where to look for it.
3. Three posts, of which one is full of false information and this one ranting on a Senior member.... Not the best start.[/QUOTE]
I hate to burst your bubble, L'uomo is in a multi level (3 floors) shopping "Plaza" or whatever you want to call it. Most of the shops are antique dealers or artist's workshops. There are also a few frame shops and antique furniture stores. It may not be a mall like in The U.S. or Europe, but the three tiered plaza houses 50 PLUS places of commerce as well as a terma!
There is also a large Sendas grocery store in there, along with three or four "sucos", so you are off base that is not located in a shopping mall.
There really was no need for your grandstanding, does it make you a better "hobbyist"? This site is about sharing of information.
Very important issues are being discussed right now. :D
Is L'uomo located in a shopping mall/center or not? The one who guess right gets a free p***y.
L'uomo is located on Rua Siqueira Campos 143. So are also twenty other "shops". They are all located in "The Shopping Cidade Copacabana"/"Shopping dos Antiquarios".
They have a site [url]http://www.shoppingdosantiquarios.com.br[/url].
Call it a shopping center, mall, gallery or whatever. Who cares? L'uomo is quite hidden and propably don't disturb any customers visiting the shopping.
All you Rio-experts, relax and stop fighting about unimportant details. There must be more important matters to discuss I hope.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]There really was no need for your grandstanding, does it make you a better "hobbyist"? This site is about sharing of information.[/QUOTE]
The book [I]Around the World in 80 Lays[/I] is crap. The content is largely taken from sites like this one. The "original" content is written in See Jane Run style with an occasional Thesaurus accident.
There, I did my sharing for today. Where's my cookie?
[QUOTE=Sperto]Very important issues are being discussed right now. :D [/QUOTE] LOOL :)
[QUOTE=Sperto]....L'uomo is located on Rua Siqueira Campos 143. So are also twenty other "shops". They are all located in "The Shopping Cidade Copacabana"/"Shopping dos Antiquarios".
They have a site [url]http://www.shoppingdosantiquarios.com.br[/url]...[/QUOTE]
Amen...I guess ;)
Despite the mongering activity and thinking "to try" to be a turist :) in my next trip to Rio, what it does really worth to see ?
Pao de Acucar (seen), Corcovado ( not seen, but it is in my plan ), Maracana ? ( but I do not like soccer... ).
Something hystorical in the center ?
Regarding "clean" water and nice beaches not much far from Rio, Buzios worth it or there is something better ? ( maybe that it worth to stop there 1-2 days and have after dinner some monger activity ? )
Ala Delta from Sao Conrado....ehm, I would really like to do it, but after what El Austriaco shared with us in january, not much sure is "safe" with that crazy-lazy wind there....
Short trip, 2-3 days to Belo Horizonte, for mongering, it worth it about cheaper price GDP and easier to get regular girls or not ?
Thanks for everybody will share something :)
Well as you might know by now Chicago nor Rio got the Olympics, so Lula can concentrate more on his future in Brasil and his re-election. This must be a blow to Brasil. Madrid did not get it neither. One question I have. How many terms can a president run in Brasil? 8 years or two terms; or three terms 12 years?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]LOOL :)
Despite the mongering activity and thinking "to try" to be a turist :) in my next trip to Rio, what it does really worth to see ?
Pao de Acucar (seen), Corcovado ( not seen, but it is in my plan ), Maracana ? ( but I do not like soccer... ).
Something hystorical in the center ?
:)[/QUOTE]
Maybe I'm not the best person the give information on Rio's touristic attractions. Anyways, I had the chance to live and work there from 1984 to 1986. I guess that my information maybe a little bit outdated.
Anyhow I think that there's a lot of things to visit in Rio.
Here's a small list:
Mosteiro São Bento, Floresta de Tijuca, Central do Brasil, Museu Carmen Miranda, Museu de Arte Moderna, Jardim Botânico, Praça Quinze de Novembro, Teatro Municipal, Biblioteca nacional, Maracana, Igreja da Nossa Senhora de Penha, Parque brigadeiro Eduardo Gomes, etc, etc.
Unfortunately one of the main attraction doesn't exist anymore: Tivoli parque near the Lagoa Freitas (It was an amusement park).
I hope it may help you.
Sorry I meant Tokyo got axed and Chicago.
That is what happens when you read more than one language it it down to Rio and Madrid sorry guys my fault.
Well for those mongerers that wanted the Olympics in Rio...you got it. But be careful what you wish for...as things are about to get interesting over the next few years, with regards to perhaps some serious "house cleaning".
[QUOTE=Sperto]Very important issues are being discussed right now. :D
L'uomo is located on Rua Siqueira Campos 143. So are also twenty other "shops". They are all located in "The Shopping Cidade Copacabana"/"Shopping dos Antiquarios".
They have a site [url]http://www.shoppingdosantiquarios.com.br[/url].
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You are right. It even has its own page at that site...
[url]http://www.shoppingdosantiquarios.com.br/loja.asp?id=116[/url]
[QUOTE=Yankee 617]You are right. It even has its own page at that site...
[url]http://www.shoppingdosantiquarios.com.br/loja.asp?id=116[/url][/QUOTE]
And, there is that damn garish sign. Visible no doubt from as far away as the Christ Statute.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]...Visible no doubt from as far away as the Christ Statute.[/QUOTE]
LOL :)
Hey Exec Talent thanks for photo, I forgot it is so big, you did not photoshopped right ? ;)
Just joking....
Son to his mother walking down the street in front of shopping:
" Mommy look there !!! What is it lu....luommo ?!? "
" Oh, nothing, it is just where daddy goes on sunday evening to play ... poker " .... ( at least I hope... )
LOL :)
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]And, there is that damn garish sign. Visible no doubt from as far away as the Christ Statute.[/QUOTE]
And, annoyingly for newbies no doubt, barely visible at all from directly below. It's kinda off the mall, so I think you're correct whether you say it's in a mall or not. You could call it poetic licence if one was being generous (and from your account, there is no reason to be). ;)
The purpose of this site is sharing information. Most of us post here because of that desire. It likely came out of the fact that when we first started traveling we found the information here valuable.
The author, Joe Diamond AKA Rio Joe, came here about a year ago posting for the sole purpose of hyping himself, his Hustler article and what he hoped was an upcoming book. He came here for one purpose, to benefit Joe. That is a recurring theme throughout his book. How can he get someone else to pay for his trips under the guise of doing a story?
He has never been to Thailand, but uses the posts from forums like this one as a basis for his “travelogue.” Same with Germany. Bottom line is he has been to Rio a few times and that section is filled with misinformation and hyperbole. He, like many others of his kind, is all hype and no talent just out to make the quick buck.
Candidly, I bought the book online before I realized the author. It quickly became a bathroom book; however the temptation grew to start using the pages after the deed so I finished it and returned it to Amazon.
Again, most of us are here to share information for the benefit of others. I bought the book, read it, and found it to be worthless. There is better information on Rio right here. And, why would someone buy a book to read about Thailand and Germany when the content is simply reposts of what is found here?
[QUOTE=Spidy]Well for those mongerers that wanted the Olympics in Rio...you got it. But be careful what you wish for...as things are about to get interesting over the next few years, with regards to perhaps some serious "house cleaning".[/QUOTE]Probably drive the price of poooosaaay outta sight too!
[QUOTE=Spidy]Well for those mongerers that wanted the Olympics in Rio...you got it. But be careful what you wish for...as things are about to get interesting over the next few years, with regards to perhaps some serious "house cleaning".[/QUOTE]Well, we'll see. Hopefully at least they'll do something to improve that damned airport...
Sorry for bothering you but is it really so dangerous in Rio?
Will spend there few days and look for some fun but heard some thrilling stories.
Hey from Poland!
[QUOTE=Stratone]Probably drive the price of poooosaaay outta sight too! [/QUOTE]eah, but after the Olympics there will be a surplus and new golden age of cheap buceta. If the Real stays tolerable.
Imagine all the garotas who will come from the countryside to Rio for quick Reais, then find themselves immersed in the GdP life$tyle. Then the Olympics crowd leaves and they find themselves in competition. I seriously doubt that they'll leave town after the Olympics, to go back to Hicktown, BR and become housewives. Imagine being Hefner for a day, then willingly walking away. Isn't going to happen.
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I'd be curious to see what you think of that book (Rio de Janeiro, by Ruy Castro) as this is a book that spends a lot of time on Carnaval and the roots of it. I personally rank that book as one of my favorites on Rio.[/QUOTE]
I'm really enjoying it so far. Very atmospheric. I think I'd recommend it to anyone missing Rio (rather than just the sex) or enjoying Rio and wanting a compact, stylishly written book by someone who is very knowledgeable about the city and it's heartbeat. Especially as you can get second hand copies from Amazon just now for a few pence. Have tried not to flick forward to the Carnaval stuff too much - am enjoying just savouring each page.
A good movie for enjoying the roots of Brasil and the early days of Carnaval is Black Orpheus (Orfeu Negro). It's in Porto and won an Oscar back in 1959. It's an exciting thriller that stands up well today, with a backdrop of pre-commercialed Carnaval and at a time when Candomble was more open. Highly dramatised but still atmospheric - I think you might well enjoy it.
ET, thanks for starting a discussion of the book. I'll be honest, though. I was a little hurt by your "objective" review. For the sake of balance, here's a differing opinion from a reader at Amazon.com:
"The book is an effervescent account of 'regular Joes' partying like rock stars.... The closest parallel I can think of is Neal Strauss's 'The Game,' another book that indelibly captured a subculture of dedicated hedonists. The difference is that the men in 'Around the World in 80 Lays' 'seduce' (if you can call it that) with money....
"Diamond weaves fascinating historical facts into the book without sounding like the History Channel. For example, he writes about a huge statue of a prostitute in Germany meant to commemorate a medieval religious conference where 1,500 courtesans were on hand to 'serve the secular needs of the attendees.' He also shares juicy tidbits about the Nazis (and later the communists) using hookers as bait to get foreign diplomats to spill secrets during 'pillow talk.'
"Why should rock stars have all the fun? Diamond shows that even regular guys can 'live the dream,' if they're willing to pay a little for it."
[The full review's at [url]http://www.amazon.com/Around-World-80-Lays-Adventures/product-reviews/1602392870/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1[/url] ]
I sometimes write reviews and so get used to reading them. The author Rio Joe has cleverly noted that any publicity is good publicity. Though it is perhaps doubtful that the discussion here will have the effect on uptake the way Harriet Harman's mention of P*nternet did recently in her attempt to ban it.
Firstly, it is someone's work, whether much was pilfered or not. And it always makes a review more credible if you can find something good to say about a bad book and vice versa. The reviews on Amazon pointed out by the author are by first time reviewers, which naturally leads me to suspect they are written by his mates - one admits they went to school together. So they are not unbiassed reviews. The point about finding termas in shopping malls is not a brilliant one to criticise - it might be a slight exaggeration but can at least be argued either way, as has been shown here. As details change so frequently, it should be possible to find more substantive examples of 'misinformation.'
It's probably the sort of book I might pick up when the second hand price comes down to 1p. Mostly because my own initial reaction was, 'only 80??' A bit of honesty about which places are really visited by the author and which he has reported second hand would be good. As I have been round the world, quite literally, and have clocked up a lot more than 80 lays, I have to wonder what it would offer, especially when I can get a better intro on ISG than I would expect to find in a published book that will necessarily be somewhat out of date by the time it rolls off the press. But not everyone reads ISG, so maybe the author's lads' mags readers, many of whom won't go further than a week in Bangkok, might feel suitably entertained. They might even progress to going onto ISG and find some real live info.
[I]ps Neil Strauss is someone else who 'fed off others.' His overhyped book The Game is a mishmash of successes and his own inner anxieties as he attempts to implement technical pick-up methods mostly based on the work of psychologists. Unfortunately he doesn't understand the underlying principles properly, so gets himself in a mess. The original source is Bandler and Grinder - they really know how to mess with your head and you can experience it on some of the tapes of their lectures. The modern day exponent is Ross Jeffries, who is easier to understand than B&G for beginners, but has sound understanding and a decent moral footing. Things hippy-head Strauss wasn't interested in.[/I]
So good, so true !
Actually, he was very smart to use ISG to be able to write a book, even if he neither travelled so much. On the opposite, I hate liers and think I am gonna to read something he just copied from here, it really pissed me off even if I paid the book 0,10 euro.
But again he was smart and brave too, cause if I will write a book, I will never copy....I guess if there is some copyright here in ISG and if he should ask before to copy or not ?!
Great ET that reported it all, at least I know a book I will never buy LOL
Yeah. Guess some people might think a health organization announcing to the world that they have an infectious disease also might be a good thing.
Message from here remains the same. Don’t buy the book. It is crap. Joe, see if you can misconstrue, take out of context and put a positive spin on that statement.
BTW, I used the L’uomo example because many people here could relate to it. Over the years how many times have we heard from people who couldn’t find it? Garish sign that you can’t miss, and all. Must be all the shoppers in that area of the shopping center obscuring it from view.
... is only visible from the OPPOSITE side of the Siqueira Campos street. It is on the first floor, mounted on the wall of L'uomo, but partially hidden by a concrete balcony wall of the outside walkway. I had a very hard time finding in my first time, and if it had not been for Bubba's guide, I might have given up.
Is L'uomo part of a shopping mall? The place is definitely a mall; I went there during daytime yesterday, and it is full of different stores. Yes, a lot of antiques, but there is also an internet cafe, a bridal store, a couple of electronics stores, a travel agency, a swimsuit store, a grocery store (pretty good, actually). Well, none of the mall pedestrian traffic passes by L'uomo, but it can only be reached by from inside the mall.
Here is also an update on a very important topic that comes up again and again: Help! closing. Yes, my friends, it finally happened. I was siting at Veranda Help on Wednesday night with a couple of buddies, and I saw with my own eyes that Help! finally closed down :(. But then I went there yesterday evening, and it had opened again :D.
Since I am posting already, here is my take on the Olympics: It would be tremendous, if Rio used the opportunity to improve its infrastructure. Perhaps expanding the metro and connecting it to the airport? Now wouldn't THAT be cool! Yes, it's going to get a lot more expensive in Rio. I am already paying a factor of 2 more (including the exchange rate effect) than five years ago, and it's going to go up way more still.
But the most depressing effect might be that major international restaurant chains will begin moving in to Rio in anticipation of the Olympics. This morning I saw a report on a new Mongolian BBQ restaurant in Rio on TV. And the girl I slept with last night told me that Flamengo Porcao will close down and probably become an Outback Steakhouse. This pisses me off beyond words. (Tonight I'll take her there; it may be my last meal at one of my favorite restaurants on the planet :().
euro
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since i am posting already, here is my take on the olympics: it would be tremendous, if rio used the opportunity to improve its infrastructure. perhaps expanding the metro and connecting it to the airport? now wouldn't that be cool! yes, it's going to get a lot more expensive in rio. i am already paying a factor of 2 more (including the exchange rate effect) than five years ago, and it's going to go up way more still.
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hi euro. i think your take is pretty sound. i just picked up a copy of today's economist and they come to a similar conclusion. there's quite a bit of interest here so i hope it's not too out of place to post the article? there's a lot of hard facts about proposals. the one that maybe affects us as mongers/tourists the most is the plan to extend the metro to barra. but that is a [i]lot[/i] of line. will they really get it done? who knows. their promises for the pan american games weren't kept. the idea that cariocas will suddenly become industrious with the fanaticism we have in the west for getting things done doesn't quite persuade me. the wiki page just talks about a high speed bus (an amusing idea). and the joke about taking the year off after the world cup rings far too true.
the planned olympic zones are copa, barra, maracana and deodoro.
[url="http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14587915"]rio's expensive new rings[/url]
oct 8th 2009 | rio de janeiro
from the economist print edition
winning the contest to stage the olympics in 2016 was the easy part
played by heads of state, marketing jocks and heavyweight lobbyists, the game of winning the olympic games has become just as fierce as any contest on the track or in the pool. to win the 2016 games for rio de janeiro, brazil spent some $50m. it fielded the likes of pelé, paulo coelho, a bestselling author, and the entire brazilian diplomatic corps. whereas barack obama, on behalf of chicago, breezed into the meeting of the international olympic committee (ioc) in copenhagen minutes before the decision was taken on october 2nd, brazil’s president, luiz inácio lula da silva, spent two days there, having earlier written personal letters to the 106 voting members and had each hand-delivered by an ambassador. why did rio win? “we wanted it more,” said carlos roberto osório, of brazil’s olympic committee.
that was the easy bit. holding the games will require effort and expense on a scale that rio, a problem-studded metropolis of 12m (half of whom live in the city itself), has never seen. apart from new stadiums and other sports facilities of all kinds, the plans call for new bridges and roads, and a doubling in the number of hotel rooms. to revamp a chaotic transport system, engineers will blast through granite mountains to extend the metro from ipanema to barra da tijuca, 13.5km (8.4 miles) away. tens of thousands of athletes must be squired to rep001tered events through some of the worst traffic in the americas.
the police, already overstretched, must keep the olympians safe from some of latin america’s most brazen criminals—they committed over 2,000 murders in the city itself last year. where padding public-works contracts and sticky-fingered politicians are the norm, who will make sure the $14.4 billion budgeted for the games will be put to good use—to say nothing of up to $50 billion in indirect investment?
there are plenty of sceptics, not least in são paulo, brazil’s financial and industrial centre, where rio is often dismissed as a party town. (with brazil scheduled to host the football world cup in 2014, paulistas joke that cariocas, as rio’s residents are called, are planning to take 2015 off.) the pan american games held in rio in 2007 reportedly cost ten times the official budget, and left behind underused arenas.
but there are reasons for hoping that rio might just succeed, where other places have failed, in imitating the achievement of barcelona, which used 1992’s games to reinvent a city. rio has been declining for half a century, since it lost its status as the national capital to brasília. for most of this time, the city and surrounding state have been poorly governed and brutally and badly policed. manufacturing and banks moved to são paulo, favelas multiplied and the only growth industries seemed to be drug-trafficking and gang warfare. one in six cariocas is poor.
some things are improving, partly as a result of brazil’s stronger economy. offshore oil is injecting revenue to the state. poverty is falling and property is booming. often at odds in the past, the city, state and federal governments united for the olympic bid. the new transport lines promised for the world cup and the olympics are sorely needed. the white elephants of the pan american games will find a new use.
but will the games regenerate rio, or distort its priorities? the prospectus talks of redeveloping the decaying port area, and of at last cleansing guanabara bay of sewage and industrial pollution. but whereas barcelona built its olympic village in a derelict part of its port, in rio it will be sited, along with many events, in barra da tijuca, a nouveau-riche neighbourhood at the wealthiest end of the city.
during the pan american games, police and army troops flooded the streets, smothering crime. more useful would be to use the next seven years to coax the violent young men of the favelas to take up sport, or to get construction jobs. “why don’t we make eliminating poverty in rio and pacifying all the violent slums our goal for 2016?” says andré urani of the institute for studies on labour and society, a think-tank in the city. but there are no policies in place to achieve this.
for brazil, the award of the games, hard on the heels of the world cup, is yet another symbol of its growing status in the world. as lula put it in copenhagen, brazil is no longer a “second-class country”. that may bring intangible benefits. it is now the job of brazil’s politicians to ensure that they outweigh the costs.
Chris very interesting article you posted, thanks.
Many good, very good plans, but they will do it all ?
I think to build 13 km of metro till Barra is not a "joke", I guess they should start asap.
How they double the accomodations is a mistery too.
Another question is will be the Olympics enough safe ?
And my question, as an almost total non-expert about such things is, where do they take the money to pay all the things they plan to build ?!?
Indeed the easiest part was to get the Olympics....
If need be you can translate this site through google laungage tools as in Portuguese. It is online booking tool for up and coming events, concerts, nightclubs, theatre etc etc in Rio
It is problematic to actually book online but you can see whats going on and gives you the shops selling the tickets, i normally go to the one in Rio Sul (Loja Banco de Areia)
Its amazing how many events actually happen in Rio and international stars and acts that pass through Rio undetected whilst im in town. There has been several events ive missed that i would have went to whilst in Rio had i researched up and coming lists.
[url]http://www.ingressocerto.com/Produtos_Secoes.asp?SecP=1&SecS=1[/url]
This is site i use if your into football or wish to catch a game at Maracana.
Theres several but i like this one as easy to navigate through the divisions and league tables.
Looks like the season finishes on Dec 6th.
But i believe they have some carioca team football tournament in January which is played at Maracana, i havent made it yet the details are a bit hazy maybe someone else knows more about it ?
[url]http://www.soccerway.com/national/brazil/serie-a/2009/regular-season/matches/[/url]
This anti-biotic type drug was introduced as a wonder drug,its like super strengh anti-biotic that can treat a wide range of infections you can pick up on your travels. I was surprised to find it is available over the counter in the pharmacys here.
I think it was tailored for all the shit you can pick up in Rio :) relating to sore throats and chests etc..Interesting it also states it can be used to treat chlamydia. Normal antibiotics are normally a week course these do same in 2 days.
Anyways its my drug of choice in the fight of wasting time due to illness.
You can just write down Zithromax and hand to pharmacy
(providing your symptoms are what it actually treats ie stated in the website :)
[url]http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003113.html[/url]
Ive used this very easy to use site for sending flowers in the past and was most surprised by the efficency. This was only used in exceptional circumstances as example in one of my early trips couple of years ago on arriving Air France had lost my luggage a nice garota arriving same time helped me out as i was struggling communicating with the staff that was on.
She stayed more than an hour assisting and gave me her business card i had used this international site before so quickly sent bouquet of flowers with a thank you note & my cell (free sex in back of mind), next morning got an estatic thankyou call & evening meal offer. No free sex but had great time and still in touch.
Ive never used this service for GDPs nor would i, but its handy and can be worth little outlay for up and coming trips, etc
Its been about a year since used it but the prices seem to be a lot higher, maybe the flowers are out of season or something but seems to be premium prices
worldwidefloralnetwork.com/flowers/southamerica.htm
[QUOTE=Marcop 12]This anti-biotic type drug was introduced as a wonder drug,its like super strengh anti-biotic that can treat a wide range of infections you can pick up on your travels. I was surprised to find it is available over the counter in the pharmacys here.
I think it was tailored for all the shit you can pick up in Rio :) relating to sore throats and chests etc..Interesting it also states it can be used to treat chlamydia. Normal antibiotics are normally a week course these do same in 2 days.
Anyways its my drug of choice in the fight of wasting time due to illness.
You can just write down Zithromax and hand to pharmacy
(providing your symptoms are what it actually treats ie stated in the website :)
[url]http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003113.html[/url][/QUOTE]I am not a doctor (nor do I play one on TV). But, you need to be careful self-medicating yourself with antibiotics. I read here many times guys using these medicines as "preventatives" before they have anything to not miss mongering time. The concern is that you can build up a resistance to the effectiveness of these super drugs if you use them too often and develop more severe strains of disease. Especially for those that monger frequently and do this practice. Be careful.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]As I have been round the world, quite literally, and have clocked up a lot more than 80 lays, I have to wonder what it would offer, especially when I can get a better intro on ISG than I would expect to find in a published book that will necessarily be somewhat out of date by the time it rolls off the press.[/QUOTE]
It's an excellent point. In terms of quantity of information and timeliness, no book could ever hope to keep up with always-expanding forums like ISG. My aim was more to give my personal perspective on mongering, as well as the perspectives of other mongers (at least some of them; it would be impossible to include them all) who I thought had particularly interesting stories to share. (ET, in answer to your question, that's why you're not in the book.)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]A bit of honesty about which places are really visited by the author and which he has reported second hand would be good.[/QUOTE]
I point out in 80 Lays' intro that the book includes the experiences of other mongers. Also, each chapter makes it clear where the information is coming from. For example, the section on Germany is largely based on a long interview I conducted with ISG poster Jackyo.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]It's an excellent point. In terms of quantity of information and timeliness, no book could ever hope to keep up with always-expanding forums like ISG. My aim was more to give my personal perspective on mongering, as well as the perspectives of other mongers (at least some of them; it would be impossible to include them all) who I thought had particularly interesting stories to share. (ET, in answer to your question, that's why you're not in the book.)
I point out in 80 Lays' intro that the book includes the experiences of other mongers. Also, each chapter makes it clear where the information is coming from. For example, the section on Germany is largely based on a long interview I conducted with ISG poster Jackyo.[/QUOTE]
You are even more full of shit on here than you are in your book something which I did not believe was possible.
I sent the mostly copied from internet forums "book" back to Amazon for a full refund (new condition) because my other books started complaining about the smell.
You are now just another poster on ignore.
Rio Joe,
sorry, I do not get the point: why we should spend money to buy something that here is for free ?
It is most probable that someone can write a more informative book about the gdp scene without ever visiting Rio de Janeiro by just reading this forum.
If a person who lives in Rio or has lived there for most of his life, and/or has truly become active within the culture of that scene, then I would give it more credibility. Which by the way, happens to be the case for a couple of members in this forum. Just throwing in my 2 cents worth.
[QUOTE=Mangera]It is most probable that someone can write a more informative book about the gdp scene without ever visiting Rio de Janeiro by just reading this forum.
If a person who lives in Rio or has lived there for most of his life, and/or has truly become active within the culture of that scene, then I would give it more credibility. Which by the way, happens to be the case for a couple of members in this forum. Just throwing in my 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]
You make some good points, but I think it's fair to ask have you actually read the book?
Also, at what point do you consider someone "truly active" within Rio's mongering scene? Surely my dozen-plus trips to Cidade Maravilhosa have validity on that count.
The book, in a way, is the best of both worlds: It combines my experiences as a monger with insights expressed by people here.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]... I think it's fair to ask have you actually read the book?...[/QUOTE]
I think it's fair too, to ask have you actually read... my previous question ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]sorry, I do not get the point: why we should spend money to buy something that here is for free ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Rio Joe,
sorry, I do not get the point: why we should spend money to buy something that here is for free ?[/QUOTE]
Lukasek, please buy it. I'm sure you'll like it. Most of [i]Around the World in 80 Lays[/i] is original writing. There are stories that have never appeared on ISG or other forums. Some of the stuff is based on my magazine articles, but with a new twist. The book is an enjoyable read. It's also one of the few books on [b]mongering from a monger's point of view[/b]. I don't think there's much in there that will be earth-shattering to experienced mongers. But you'll definitely find things that strike a familiar, funny chord in the sense of "I know exactly what he's talking about." Especially the anecdotes about GFEs, strange encounters with GDPs, etc.
The book's [url=www.amazon.com/gp/product/1602392870/]Amazon page[/url] lets you preview it. You can also read an [url=www.riojoe.com/ph1.htm] excerpt from the book in Penthouse[/url].
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I am not a doctor (nor do I play one on TV). But, you need to be careful self-medicating yourself with antibiotics. I read here many times guys using these medicines as "preventatives" before they have anything to not miss mongering time. The concern is that you can build up a resistance to the effectiveness of these super drugs if you use them too often and develop more severe strains of disease. Especially for those that monger frequently and do this practice. Be careful.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree you need to be careful, but I was also getting at most guys including myself end up going to the Pharmacys in Rio and generally ask for anti-biotics and can be given whatever the phamacy gives them without knowing what exactly they are and most probaly brazillian genertic ones. Personally I prefer to ask for a branded medication I can research symptoms before hand on sites like net doctor. Of course by taking any medication multiple times builds up tolerance but was more thinking of the vacationer like myself who generally only gets I'll in Rio occasionally. Also of course 'where possible' consult a GP or at least if wasnt aware previously sites like net doctor can cover symptoms and what specific medication treats or if your sold something from a pharmacy you can look it up to maybe check you been sold something correct for your symptoms.
I was originally prescribed this in Brazil where had light flu like symptoms and the generaly Rio sore\dry throat bacterial infections. This was only after being offered prescription for a 7 day course of antibiotics which is the pretty standard one you will be given, I then was asking down the lines of anything faster and he gave me these I mentioned and I kept the box and looked into as I was sorted out very quickly and after first day was almost back to 100% and after 48rs had no symptoms.
I thought it worth sharing due to the variations of medicne you would be offered if you went into different pharmacys and explained same symptoms.
But yes maybe ignore post and consult\find a doctor in Rio is your best bet.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Rio Joe,
sorry, I do not get the point: why we should spend money to buy something that here is for free ?[/QUOTE]I read all this back and forth on this book. IMO, the bottom line is this book is not intended for this audience. It is obvious that many guys here know far more about mongering than this book. It is probably better suited for readers fantasizing or wondering about mongering (which does not seem to make up most of core members here.) Hawking it here is like trying to sell a Chilton's basic auto repair manual to a long-time certified mechanic.
But anyone is entitled to write a review if they have read it. And there have also been many entertaining books that have been written by compiling letters and third party accounts. Whether or not this is one of them I would have no clue, I have not read it nor intend to.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent] Around the World in 80 Lays – Book Review[/QUOTE]ET,
Do you do film reviews also? The book was just optioned for a movie.
I know what you're thinking, ET, and you're absolutely right: plenty of films get optioned and never make it to the screen. But if [i]Around the World in 80 Lays[/i] gets made, there's a ticket to the premiere with your name on it.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]You still lost money on shipping.[/QUOTE]I was pretty specific with Amazon why I was returning the book (though I didn't use the word crap). [B]They paid the postage for the return[/B] and I belong to Amazon Prime which means I pay $79 a year and can get anything shipped second day for free.
I totally am convinced that in the future in the US we will buy from only two companies. Physically from Wal-Mart and virtually from Amazon.
Amazon keeps getting better everyday. They soon will have an international edition of the Kindle which will work in Brazil. Stock has gone from around $35 in Dec to $93+ today. Sorry if I didn't mention back then that it was a good one to buy. But, if it splits, mortgage your mother to buy it.
[QUOTE=Marcop 12]I was originally prescribed this in Brazil where had light flu like symptoms and the generaly Rio sore\dry throat bacterial infections. This was only after being offered prescription for a 7 day course of antibiotics which is the pretty standard one you will be given, I then was asking down the lines of anything faster and he gave me these I mentioned and I kept the box and looked into as I was sorted out very quickly and after first day was almost back to 100% and after 48rs had no symptoms.[/QUOTE]For those who are unable to visit a doctor, the following worked for me:
I purchased Zitroneo (azitromicina) 500 mg 3-pack at the drogaria near the corner of Rua Figueirdo and Rua Tonelero in Copa for $R33. Two days prior I had been deathly sick at both ends, and was still highly unstable upon arrival in Rio. This brought me out of it in one day and I went on to experience everything in the PP Report that Euro posted to RODs in late June. It was a wonderful experience due to the pills that cured me.
I stayed on this everyday, and mixed one 500 mg Zitro with one Cialis per day for about 4 days with no problems.
On another note, some one of 8 nice girls in Japan gave me a nice case of the crabs the following month. So now there is another addition to the monger's portable medicine cabinet, 5% permethrin cream. Apply once before flying out, wash it off when you get home, and apply once more 7 days later.
And to think that I had expected catching something in Rio, with all the DATY, anal, DFK, etc. Then the stereotypically 'clean' Japanese give me an STI. I try to think of it as experience, monger coming-of-age trial, or whatever. I had different words for it before I got rid of the little hellions.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]Lukasek, please buy it. I'm sure you'll like it. Most of [i]Around the World in 80 Lays[/i] is original writing. There are stories that have never appeared on ISG or other forums. Some of the stuff is based on my magazine articles, but with a new twist. The book is an enjoyable read. It's also one of the few books on [b]mongering from a monger's point of view[/b]. I don't think there's much in there that will be earth-shattering to experienced mongers. But you'll definitely find things that strike a familiar, funny chord in the sense of "I know exactly what he's talking about." Especially the anecdotes about GFEs, strange encounters with GDPs, etc.
The book's [url=www.amazon.com/gp/product/1602392870/]Amazon page[/url] lets you preview it. You can also read an [url=www.riojoe.com/ph1.htm] excerpt from the book in Penthouse[/url].[/QUOTE]I will definitely be buying this book as soon as I get back from Rio. I wish I saw this earlier and could've brought it along for the plane ride.
Looking forward to it!
RS911
[QUOTE=Redsox911]I will definitely be buying this book as soon as I get back from Rio. I wish I saw this earlier and could've brought it along for the plane ride.
Looking forward to it!
RS911[/QUOTE]
Thanks! Let me know what you think, RS911.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]Thanks! Let me know what you think, RS911.[/QUOTE]Will do, I enjoyed the excerpts on your Hustler site.
[QUOTE=Redsox911]I will definitely be buying this book as soon as I get back from Rio. I wish I saw this earlier and could've brought it along for the plane ride.
Looking forward to it!
RS911[/QUOTE]
Then surely you want to buy an ISG subscription as well since you have asked a lot of questions and received a lot of answers here. Following are the links to make it convenient for you.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?[/url]
I have been using the Zimicina (azitromicina) for about 3 years now, and it works well. I buy a few every time I am over seas. So the day before I go to Brazil, Mexico, or the DR I start a cycle. 500mg for 3 days and don't get sick.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]For those who are unable to visit a doctor, the following worked for me:
I purchased Zitroneo (azitromicina) 500 mg 3-pack at the drogaria near the corner of Rua Figueirdo and Rua Tonelero in Copa for $R33. Two days prior I had been deathly sick at both ends, and was still highly unstable upon arrival in Rio. This brought me out of it in one day and I went on to experience everything in the PP Report that Euro posted to RODs in late June. It was a wonderful experience due to the pills that cured me.
I stayed on this everyday, and mixed one 500 mg Zitro with one Cialis per day for about 4 days with no problems.
On another note, some one of 8 nice girls in Japan gave me a nice case of the crabs the following month. So now there is another addition to the monger's portable medicine cabinet, 5% permethrin cream. Apply once before flying out, wash it off when you get home, and apply once more 7 days later.
And to think that I had expected catching something in Rio, with all the DATY, anal, DFK, etc. Then the stereotypically 'clean' Japanese give me an STI. I try to think of it as experience, monger coming-of-age trial, or whatever. I had different words for it before I got rid of the little hellions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Then surely you want to buy an ISG subscription as well since you have asked a lot of questions and received a lot of answers here. Following are the links to make it convenient for you.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?[/url][/QUOTE]Not that it's any of your business whether I purchase a subscription or not, I'm sure Jackson appreciates that he has his very own membership director. I'll get around to buying the sub when I return from my trip and have bought the Around the World in 80 Lays book.
[QUOTE=Redsox911]Not that it's any of your business whether I purchase a subscription or not, I'm sure Jackson appreciates that he has his very own membership director. I'll get around to buying the sub when I return from my trip and have bought the Around the World in 80 Lays book.[/QUOTE]
Not the membership director by a long shot. Over the years I have gained so much useful knowledge from this site and not just about "mongering." I do not even remember what additional benefits being a paying member buys you. I just think that if you find something worthwhile the right thing to do is pay for it.
As for Rio Joe's book; which you seem so adamant on promoting. It is crap. I sent it back for a full refund. I also feel very good about that.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I do not even remember what additional benefits being a paying member buys you. I just think that if you find something worthwhile the right thing to do is pay for it.[/QUOTE]
I wonder: Do you pay additional fees for all the prospective members you've driven away? One can only imagine how much revenue ISG loses due to Exec Talent's (odd name, btw, for a man whose only discernible [i]talent[/i] is being an ass) flatulent ramblings. Imagine it's your first time in a terma and the first girl you see is covered in cold sores. She immediately starts ranting in your face. Not exactly a great introduction to mongering.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent] I just think that if you find something worthwhile the right thing to do is pay for it.[/QUOTE]
I agree. As a senior member, I have access to most services without paying. I, however, value this site and all the work that Jackson puts into it - my subscription is my way of saying "thank you" to Jackson.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]I wonder: Do you pay additional fees for all the prospective members you've driven away? One can only imagine how much revenue ISG loses due to Exec Talent's[/quote]Hi Rio Joe,
from where do you have hard evidence that ET has DRIVEN AWAY prospective members??? ET has contributed like everybody else here on the forum and I think that your comment is utterly unfair. Just use the IGNORE-function if you do not like his contributions.
These are my 2 cents.
Carlos
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]...One can only imagine how much revenue ISG loses due to Exec Talent's...[/QUOTE]
Actually Exec Talent has really a talent, cause he posts often many value infos here, he is one of best contributors in Brazil thread.
On the opposite I could not say the same about you...
You only care to promote your book here, no infos usefull for us, no report at all, your talent was only to copy reports and put all together and using ISG to earn money.
If I was Jackson I will seriously think to delete all your posts you wrote about your book, not to mention there should be some copyright here....
To make long short, "general info" about Brazil is not about your book, we have here lack of members as Exec Talent and no lack at all of member that promotes their business and I am sure I am not the only one who think this.
[QUOTE=Rio Joe]I wonder: Do you pay additional fees for all the prospective members you've driven away? One can only imagine how much revenue ISG loses due to Exec Talent's (odd name, btw, for a man whose only discernible [i]talent[/i] is being an ass) flatulent ramblings. Imagine it's your first time in a terma and the first girl you see is covered in cold sores. She immediately starts ranting in your face. Not exactly a great introduction to mongering.[/QUOTE]Sorry to say, you're wrong on this count. Exec Talent's contributions to this board (and those of members like him) are the reason I became a member. You don't like him because he's busting your chops about your book. But to suggest he drives away potential members just makes you look childish and silly. Take the criticism and move on. Not every review of your book will be glowing.
[QUOTE=The Watcher]According to your profile, you have only been a member since October 2 - 16 days; accordingly, how do you know Exec Talent has been "ranting" for years about Rio Joe's book?[/QUOTE]
DUH DUH DUH DUUUUUUHHHHH!! The plot thickens!!!!
[QUOTE=The Watcher]According to your profile, you have only been a member since October 2 - 16 days; accordingly, how do you know Exec Talent has been "ranting" for years about Rio Joe's book?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't take 16 days to do a search on "Rio Joe".
[QUOTE=The Watcher]I agree. As a senior member, I have access to most services without paying. I, however, value this site and all the work that Jackson puts into it. My subscription is my way of saying "thank you" to Jackson.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100%. There are serious costs involved in running a site. Time, server costs, support. The membership fee is nothing to all the advice you get here. Hell, one piece of small advice can save you hundreds of $.- or even your life. I have saved lots of $. And enhanced my experiences, saved time, etc. But followed advice received here.
[QUOTE=Chezz]Sorry to say, you're wrong on this count. Exec Talent's contributions to this board (and those of members like him) are the reason I became a member. You don't like him because he's busting your chops about your book. But to suggest he drives away potential members just makes you look childish and silly. Take the criticism and move on. Not every review of your book will be glowing.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Exec Talent provides quality insights and information.
[quote]We (as in members of this forum) . . .[/quote]. . . passes the popcorn . . . :D :D :D
Wheelchair user, 92, arrested for smuggling coke
A 92-year-old woman with cocaine strapped to her body flew all the way from
Brazil to Spain before police arrested her, in a wheelchair, at Madrid's
airport.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/20/spain.arrest.wheelchair.cocaine/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Chezz]Sorry to say, you're wrong on this count. Exec Talent's contributions to this board (and those of members like him) are the reason I became a member. You don't like him because he's busting your chops about your book. But to suggest he drives away potential members just makes you look childish and silly. Take the criticism and move on. Not every review of your book will be glowing.[/QUOTE]
Point taken, Chezz. I need to develop a thicker skin.
including all shipping charges with apologies from Amazon.
When all the brotherly love and literary review is over:
Can somebody post a link or scan of a Rio onibus map?
When I'm out of my gringo rubbers, I find Jontex green label 'extra comfort plus' to be satisfactory. Is there a Brasilian equivalent to Trojan Ultra Thin?
Paraty would be a good place to pick up French girls who are on holiday, for those expats who are longing for some Euro poon.
Try these links:
[url]http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/index.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.rio.rj.gov.br/smtr/[/url]
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]When all the brotherly love and literary review is over:
Can somebody post a link or scan of a Rio onibus map?
When I'm out of my gringo rubbers, I find Jontex green label 'extra comfort plus' to be satisfactory. Is there a Brasilian equivalent to Trojan Ultra Thin?
Paraty would be a good place to pick up French girls who are on holiday, for those expats who are longing for some Euro poon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]When all the brotherly love and literary review is over:
Can somebody post a link or scan of a Rio onibus map?
When I'm out of my gringo rubbers, I find Jontex green label 'extra comfort plus' to be satisfactory. Is there a Brasilian equivalent to Trojan Ultra Thin?
Paraty would be a good place to pick up French girls who are on holiday, for those expats who are longing for some Euro poon.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.autoviacao1001.com.br/pt/[/url]
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Hope this helps also.
ryjer
[blue]Greetings everyone,
In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Quincas his own thread titled "[b]Quincas in Brazil[/b]".
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3095[/url]
Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.
I've also moved all of his previous "contributions" to this new thread, creating a sort of "[i]The Collected Works of Quincasl"[/i]" for those of you who are interested.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]What is the best value for phone cards or phone plans to call brazil?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Look in the "Using Cell Phones in Brazil" thread.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]What is the best value for phone cards or phone plans to call brazil?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Why, do you want to call the Olympic committee and get all the info on the bribes that were paid?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Amazon keeps getting better everyday. They soon will have an international edition of the Kindle which will work in Brazil. Stock has gone from around $35 in Dec to $93+ today. Sorry if I didn't mention back then that it was a good one to buy. But, if it splits, mortgage your mother to buy it.[/QUOTE]Went up another $26 on Friday. Agree and have been long in Amazon for awhile. What a great company.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Any links for live streams for brazil tv stations?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.vertvonline.org/[/url]
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Any links for live streams for brazil tv stations?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.justin.tv/fabiofrn[/url]
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]You sound buttsore and bitter if you ask me but you didnt ask me. Actually I was call up brazil about this joker who thinks he is a positive thinker dadhugh to get some intel about him.[/QUOTE]Actually, I have had the good fortune to meet some of the forward thinking members of Brazil's government lately at sponsored events in the US. Bright and focused guys and easy to see why there is such a buzz about the upside to this country and the Olympics. I did not see you there. Of course, there will always be doubting Thomas' that can't see how things can change. This pervents them from being part of the change and even benefiting from them. (Sounds like you, right? )
So, if you can figure out your phone service in Brazil and can get enough credit in your "hotline" phone.- give these guys a call and have yourself a good little call. I am a positive thinker, not bitter at all.- and probably can also be called a joker. A joker who likes to get the last laugh. Especially from guys that just can't be open minded.
Still waiting for your evidence of bribes. I'll be here waiting.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]What is the best value for phone cards or phone plans to call brazil?
Thanks[/QUOTE]SPB,
So you and I go at each other. But seriously, as far as phones go. I have been using Skype Internet calling more and more (both in the US and Brazil). More and more people are using it. It is free for Skype to Skype calls and cheap for Skype to landlines/cell phone on a pay as you go basis. They even have video conferencing for free (Skype to Skpye). About 1/2 of my calls are now Skype to Skpye and the video conferencing can be great with a fun-loving lady friend!
[url]www.skype.com[/url]
There, I made nice
HD
[QUOTE=Hughdad]SPB,
So you and I go at each other. But seriously, as far as phones go. I have been using Skype Internet calling more and more (both in the US and Brazil). More and more people are using it. It is free for Skype to Skype calls and cheap for Skype to landlines/cell phone on a pay as you go basis. They even have video conferencing for free (Skype to Skpye). About 1/2 of my calls are now Skype to Skpye and the video conferencing can be great with a fun-loving lady friend!
[url]www.skype.com[/url]
There, I made nice
HD[/QUOTE]
I dropped Skype after receiving scam charges through my PayPal account. This is rampant in the UK and there are numerous reports of it on the internet. If you don't have automatic refill activated you would probably never encounter it. PayPal (which owns Skype) initially balked at refunding the charges but my bank was able to adjudicate it with PayPal.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]I dropped Skype after receiving scam charges through my PayPal account. This is rampant in the UK and there are numerous reports of it on the internet. If you don't have automatic refill activated you would probably never encounter it. PayPal (which owns Skype) initially balked at refunding the charges but my bank was able to adjudicate it with PayPal.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I have had no such issues. Ebay just sold Skype.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]You sound like one of those corporate wall street guys who is involved in hedge funds and currency trading who are the lowest scum on this earth and I have no respect for. Your a freaking clown talking about forward thinking from that corrupt ass govt. They dont even help their own citizins any forward thinking means corporate greed where the rich get super rich and the poor get poorer. Thats not positve thinking thats just going with the winning team. Thats not open minded thats just following the status quo. I will go on the record to say it again brazil made illegal payolla to get the 2016 games.
So how much promises of oil did brazil make to get these 2016 olympics?
Do you have proof they didnt?[/QUOTE]No I am not a wall street guy. I wrote about my profession in this forum previously. I am a media entrepreneur launching a new business in Brazil. And you. You are a conspiracy theory guy. And wake up. The fact that the rich get richer is a global thing. Certainly not limited to Brazil. As a business person is it okay that I look to make some profits? I am sure everyone here is tired of hearing you make your Olympic bribery claims (and now you are throwing in Brazilian oil into the mix! ) It all may be true. But either show your proof or stop making your claims. And give the Olympic committee some credit for a great plan and presentation. That's all I am saying. You talk about all this payolla but yet you can't even figure out how to buy Brazilian cell phone credits and have to ask here for help. Without seeing your proof of payola there is just no reason to comment on this further here. You sound like a bitter dude that has not had success and you want to blame your problems on the government. I am neither pro or anti government. I am a free market guy and right now the free market in Brazil is good.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]No I am not a wall street guy. I wrote about my profession in this forum previously. I am a media entrepreneur launching a new business[/QUOTE]Hughdad, just out of curiosity, what type of new biz? More specifically, what media niche are you involved with?
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In the past, I thought I have read some reports about the validity of a soon to be expired tourists visa. My 5 year tourists visa expires on February 23rd 2010. I am planning on arriving in Rio on December 4th. Will I have any issues upon entering, being that the visa will expire within 3 months upon entering?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Strange that no one here ever mentionned the excellent brasilian TV serie Mandrake...[/QUOTE]Prosal thanks for do it, to mention it, I download it and it is very nice and I enjoyed it as it was made in Rio.
The best thing to do killing the time to go there back again :)
Hardly suggested.
IMHO.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Prosal thanks for do it, to mention it, I download it and it is very nice and I enjoyed it as it was made in Rio... the best thing to do killing the time to go there back again :)
Hardly suggested....IMHO.[/QUOTE]Check out Filhos do Carnaval.
[url]http://hbo-br.tv/series.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Scotob]In the past, I thought I have read some reports about the validity of a soon to be expired tourists visa. My 5 year tourists visa expires on February 23rd 2010. I am planning on arriving in Rio on December 4th. Will I have any issues upon entering, being that the visa will expire within 3 months upon entering?[/QUOTE]
Actually, I experienced the exact same situation in 2005 and was advised by the Consulate to renew my visa. Your visa must be valid for 6 months after your date of arrival. Perhaps others have not had a problem with this issue. Unfortunately you must deal with three different entities to enter the country, the Consulate, the airlines, and the DPF, all of which have authority and discretion to delay or deny your entry.
[QUOTE=Scotob]In the past, I thought I have read some reports about the validity of a soon to be expired tourists visa. My 5 year tourists visa expires on February 23rd 2010. I am planning on arriving in Rio on December 4th. Will I have any issues upon entering, being that the visa will expire within 3 months upon entering?[/QUOTE]You wont have any problems, I just went thru this a couple of years ago. As long as you have a ticket showing that you are leaving the country before your visa runs out, you will be just fine.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Actually, I experienced the exact same situation in 2005 and was advised by the Consulate to renew my visa. Your visa must be valid for 6 months after your date of arrival. Perhaps others have not had a problem with this issue. Unfortunately you must deal with three different entities to enter the country, the Consulate, the airlines, and the DPF, all of which have authority and discretion to delay or deny your entry.[/QUOTE]I just hung up from the consulate in New York City, and I was told that as long as the visa has not expired, I will be OK with both entering and leaving the country. As one can read on the answers I have received (which I appreciate immensely) others are giving me conflicting answers.
Thanks to all!
[QUOTE=Scotob]I just hung up from the consulate in New York City, and I was told that as long as the visa has not expired, I will be OK with both entering and leaving the country. As one can read on the answers I have received (which I appreciate immensely) others are giving me conflicting answers.
Thanks to all![/QUOTE]
No reason to be confused, I live in NYC too. Not sure what the other guys are talking about, but as long as you are leaving the country before your Visa expires, you will have no problems at all. I went thru the exact same situation a few years ago, I know what I am talking about.
Go, have a great time and remember to post your experiences when you return!!
Besouro, movie released one week ago.
Great movie, specially if you have an interest in Capoeira and Bahia .
[url]http://www.besouroofilme.com.br[/url]
[QUOTE=Scotob]I just hung up from the consulate in New York City, and I was told that as long as the visa has not expired, I will be OK with both entering and leaving the country. As one can read on the answers I have received (which I appreciate immensely) others are giving me conflicting answers.
Thanks to all![/QUOTE]Follow the consulate's advice.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Besouro, movie released one week ago.
Great movie, specially if you have an interest in Capoeira and Bahia .
[url]http://www.besouroofilme.com.br[/url][/QUOTE]Hong Kong cinema has finally arrived in Brazil. Trailer looks good. :)
It may be playing at Rio Sul. On website has it listed as playing there, another does not.
[QUOTE=Java Man]Hong Kong cinema has finally arrived in Brazil. Trailer looks good. :)
It may be playing at Rio Sul. On website has it listed as playing there, another does not.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what cinemas that shows the movie. I just downloaded a not-so-good-quality version on the internet. The movie is on my shopping-list, under "B", just before Bunda on Buenos aires 85.
Maybe this will help you to locate a cinema (or buy a newspaper if you're in Rio).
SALAS E HORÁRIOS
Box Cinemas São Gonçalo - Sala 4
16:45 | 18:55 | 21:10 | 14:25 exceto ***ça e quinta
Cine Caxias - CINE DUQUE SALA 4
15:10 | 17:15 | 19:20 | 21:25
Cinemark Botafogo - Sala 1
11:45 | 14:05 | 16:10 | 18:10 | 20:20 | 22:30
Sessões válidas somente dia 9 de novembro.
Cinemark Botafogo - Sala 1
13:40 | 16:10 | 18:30 | 20:50 | 23:15 exceto domingo
Sessões válidas de 6 a 8 de novembro.
Cinemark Carioca Shopping - Sala 1
14:10 | 16:20 | 18:30 | 20:40
Sessões válidas de 6 a 8 de novembro.
Cinemark Carioca Shopping - Sala 7
11:10 | 13:20 | 15:30 | 17:45 | 20:05 | 22:10
Sessões válidas somente dia 9 de novembro.
Cinemark Downtown - Sala 1
11:05 | 13:10 | 15:10 | 17:25 | 19:40 | 21:50
Sessões válidas somente dia 9 de novembro.
Cinemark Downtown - Sala 10
14:50 | 17:05 | 19:10 | 21:20 | 12:45 exceto sexta | 23:35 exceto domingo
Sessões válidas de 6 a 8 de novembro.
Cinesystem Bangu - Sala 1
14:10 | 16:10 | 18:10 | 20:10 | 22:10
Iguatemi Rio - Sala 7
15:10 | 17:20 | 19:30 | 21:40
Kinoplex Nova América - Sala 2
14:40 | 16:50 | 19:00 | 21:10
Kinoplex Tijuca - Sala 4
15:00 | 17:10 | 19:20 | 21:30 | 23:40 somente sábado
Madureira Shopping - Sala 1
14:50 | 17:20 | 19:20 | 21:20
Plaza Shopping Niterói - Cinemark - Sala 1
14:10 | 16:30 | 18:40 | 21:00 | 12:00 exceto sexta | 23:10 exceto domingo
Sessões válidas de 6 a 8 de novembro.
Plaza Shopping Niterói - Cinemark - Sala 5
11:10 | 13:10 | 15:10 | 17:10 | 19:10 | 21:10
Sessões válidas somente dia 9 de novembro.
São Luiz - Sala 4
16:40 | 21:45
Shopping Bay Market - Sala 3
14:10 | 16:30 | 18:50 | 21:10
Shopping Grande Rio - Sala 4
14:40 | 16:50 | 19:00 | 21:20
UCI Kinoplex NorteShopping - Sala 9
13:50 | 15:55 | 18:00 | 20:00 | 22:05 | 00:10 somente sexta e sábado
UCI New York City Center - Sala 11
13:40 | 15:45 | 17:50 | 20:10 | 22:15 | 00:20 somente sexta e sábado
Via Parque - Sala 1
14:20 | 16:30 | 18:40 | 21:10
[QUOTE=Scotob]I just hung up from the consulate in New York City, and I was told that as long as the visa has not expired, I will be OK with both entering and leaving the country. As one can read on the answers I have received (which I appreciate immensely) others are giving me conflicting answers.
Thanks to all! [/QUOTE]You should have no problem at all. My visa expired August 2009. I was in Rio in May returning to the USA in early June, and again in late June returning in July. I had no problem entering and leaving the country either time. If your return ticket shows you leaving before the visa expires you will be ok.
In fact I tried to renew the visa before it expired and the NY consulate told me I had to wait for it to expire first.
In my case my US Passport had to be renewed but it still has 3 years left on my 5 year visa. I called the Consulate in L.A. and they told me to just staple the expired Passport with the 5 year visa to the new one.
Now I know it came from "the source" but I sure don't want any surprises when I land in Sampa next month.
Anyone else have any experience with a similar situation?
Thank god, I'm European and not from the US. :D
No visa required. I just arrive and get a stamp in my passport.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Thank god, I'm European and not from the US. :D
No visa required....[/QUOTE]
The same for me, before to read here, I thought nobody needs visa for Brazil, so now I am happy to live here, maybe I need more time to get to Rio and at least 2 flights,no direct flight so far as I know, but with no visa and euro, I stop to complain :)
[QUOTE=Monger X]In my case my US Passport had to be renewed but it still has 3 years left on my 5 year visa. I called the Consulate in L.A. and they told me to just staple the expired Passport with the 5 year visa to the new one.
Now I know it came from "the source" but I sure don't want any surprises when I land in Sampa next month.
Anyone else have any experience with a similar situation?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I was in a similar situation on my last trip. Upon arrival, I handed the Rio immigration officials my current and expired passport. They checked that the expired passport's visa was still valid (it was), stamped the new passport, and I was on my way without incident. Same when leaving Rio.
[QUOTE=Monger X]In my case my US Passport had to be renewed but it still has 3 years left on my 5 year visa. I called the Consulate in L.A. and they told me to just staple the expired Passport with the 5 year visa to the new one.
Now I know it came from "the source" but I sure don't want any surprises when I land in Sampa next month.
Anyone else have any experience with a similar situation?[/QUOTE]I would NOT alter the US Passport by stapling it. You should just simply carry both passports. I also traveled with a friend who had a new passport, with the visa in the old passport. He carried both. They checked the old passport for the valid visa and stamped the new passport for entry and exit.
[QUOTE=Monger X]In my case my US Passport had to be renewed but it still has 3 years left on my 5 year visa. I called the Consulate in L.A. and they told me to just staple the expired Passport with the 5 year visa to the new one.
Now I know it came from "the source" but I sure don't want any surprises when I land in Sampa next month.
Anyone else have any experience with a similar situation?[/QUOTE]
Been thru this too. Just carry both passports with you on your trip, no need to staple anything.
Thanks guys for all the quick responses! Much appreciated!
last year i posted a report about how my driver went nuts over pictures he saw of a girl i knew. he told her about it, which angered me. i then posted about a cab driver who followed me and her to my apartment trying to peek up her pantyless skirt. and while driving i caught him adjusting his mirror to get a look.
i believed these guys were going crazy over a little poozy!.
two posters, who shall remain nameless, chimed in that brazilian men are used to seeing poozy and it is gringos that go overboard. they also attempted to educate me about "the brazilian social oder" and how i was at the bottom of it. (????)
anyway, this story demonstrates how some young brazilian men act when they see a little pooozy:
[url]http://www.inquisitr.com/46763/geisy-arruda-photo-video/[/url]
Brazilian men, regardless of their age, race, appearance and social status loves to look at and flirt with women. The woman doesn't need necessarily to be beautiful or young to get their attention. A big bunda is enough.
I find it quite amusing how a stunning girl walking down the street can get the attention of all the men in a radius of 300 metres, including bus-drivers, police officers and even the dogs on the street.
Looking at beautiful women, flirting with them, praising their beauty and eye-f**king them, all at the same time is something brazilian men have made into an art-form. They learn it as teens and practise it until they are so old that they hardly not can walk. This behaviour isn't because brazilian men are extremely horny or that they are hoping to get laid. Admiring the beauty of women is a part of brazilian culture. Everybody does it. Turning around looking at a bunda, making some psiu-psiu and whisper "gostosa"/"que delícia" is a normal behaviour in Brazil.
It's not like they go "overboard". They just do their process of looking/eye-f**king and then return back to what they were doing before.
On the part of the women, this behaviour of the men are quite accepted and often, but not always, appreciated.
Anyone on the ground care to speak about the black out last night? Sperto, Mr International, HughDad, ET?
RR
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Anyone on the ground care to speak about the black out last night? Sperto, Mr International, HughDad, ET?
RR[/QUOTE]
On Saturday I was with my girl at Feira de São Cristóvão. We took the bus (474) from Copa and arrived about 8:30. We walked around a bit and decided to have dinner in a restaurant that had AC. Twenty minutes later the lights went out. This happened two times while we were having dinner. We went outside to do a little dancing and the lights went out again. When it happened again at 11:00, we took a taxi back to Copa.
Last night (Tuesday) the lights started to dim around 10:00. The TV went off and I shut off the ceiling fans which were at a crawl. Then all of a sudden around 10:30 the power went off everywhere. I was in the apartment in a safe area of Copa and glad of it. About 1:00 AM the lights came back followed by a loud cheer. They have been on every since though the internet did go down around 3:00 AM. Brazilians that I talked with today said there was some looting. Most shops in Copa have metal doors for a reason.
Here's the report I'd like to hear about the apagao, the blackout:
"I was in the cabine at the termas, maybe 15 minutes in, when the power went out...."
Especially for the dudes covering the evening shift at 4 X 4, I feel your pain. Can you imagine finding your way through the labyrinth of hallways and corridors in pitch black darkness?
Boa sorte gente.
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Anyone on the ground care to speak about the black out last night? Sperto, Mr International, HughDad, ET?
RR[/QUOTE]
I was sitting in the plane. It was almost time to leave. About 20 minutes after departure time the pilot told us that we had not left because the airport had lost power out and we were waiting for a few more people to come on as well as the paperwork. I don't think he knew the extent of it at the time. The people finally got on and the paperwork was sent by satellite. We ended up leaving an hour late. When I got home and read CNN I saw the full extent of it.
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Anyone on the ground care to speak about the black out last night? Sperto, Mr International, HughDad, ET?
RR[/QUOTE]Was sitting at open window seat finishing a meal at a local restaurant near my hotel. Lights flicker. patrons applaud and cheer. Lights go out, they cheer more. Brazilians will celebrate anything. Watched the busy intersection without traffic lights. These drivers are not civil or patient with lights. Was great entertainment and better than nascar (never did see the attraction in that sport.) waiters were using cell phones as lights and getting bills settled to get the place closed. They are resourceful. Walked the 2 blocks back to the hotel and they would not let us up to the rooms saying the keys wouldn't work. Fortunately I was on the first floor (which I hated at check in. But it turned out perfect in the blackout). I snuck into the stairwell and used my cell as a light up the two flights and my room key opened the door. I opened the windows wide and hung out hoping Pietra would still come by. Earlier than planned knowing Luomo was going to have to close. I tried leaving a vm on her cell. 15 minutes later she is walking outside the hotel looking in and I call down to her. I walked back down and brought her up with me. I was so happy I saw her that afternoon and made plans to have her meet me at the hotel. Awesome night. She would be the one lady in Rio that I would want to spend the blackout with. She is so much fun. Only downside was we wiped out the mini-bar because I hadn't had a chance to hit the market before the stores had to close. Passed out with the lights still out. Awoke to find the city alive and kicking as if nothing happened at all. Every one has to get on with their lives.
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[QUOTE=Hughdad]Walked the 2 blocks back to the hotel and they would not let us up to the rooms saying the keys wouldn't work. Fortunately I was on the first floor (which I hated at check in. But it turned out perfect in the blackout). I snuck into the stairwell and used my cell as a light up the two flights and my room key opened the door. [/QUOTE]
They are full of shit. The locks have batteries in them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]They are full of shit. The locks have batteries in them.[/QUOTE]Right. Which is why I proceeded up to my room anyway to try.
Not sure why so hostile a response? I think they were honestly scrambling. Trying to adjust to the situation and keep everyone in order with just a few emergencies lights on in the lobby. There were some panicking tourists. I mean imagine just arriving in that crazy city a few hours earlier. In a neighborhood hotel, with a busy intersection just outside the front lobby door. And someone flips off the light switch. In the pouring rain. I have to say the staff at the Hotel Atlantico Copa is great, English speaking, holding and watching bags, sent up an attendant to assist with any need right away. And as I said previously rooms were spacious (if not the most modern and expensive furniture and bed) and the hot water was adundant with tremendous pressure. Their spaciou lobby has a nice little bar and plenty of seating areas to tuck away and do a meeting. I would recommend this hotel to anyone looking for a moderate priced, centrally located launching pad into Rio. Luomo is 2 blocks away, Monte Carlo and the beach are 5 blocks away, the Metro is across the street, markets and stores everywhere. I booked it through Ipanema.comfor R$50 less than the hotel was asking directly. (I have had good success using Ipanema.comfor my short stay hotel needs. Very responsive and accomodating to travel changes.) I will be exploring a few more neighborhoods in the next month. And will start looking at long-term apartments with a business partner for late January or February. He'll be in Rio full-time, I'll be there 4 to 6 months next year.
In the lobby the day after the blackout, I was talking to a female guest. And we were trading travel disaster stories. She had been through hurricanes, floods, power outages, military actions. I had been through:
* an earthquake in SF (not so unusual),
* the massive Denver Christmas snow storm that shut the airport for a week (luckily I decided the airport was going to be shut down and to stay at the beautiful resort hotel I was at instead of trying to make the airport as a few colleagues did to get home for the holiday. And they ended up sleeping on cots for 4 days. I was sitting by a fireplace in the lobby drinking wine and playing pool and darts with the 10 other guests.)
* the NYC blackout a few months after 9/11. We weren't allow back in our hotels and ended up meeeting a nice restaurant owner that let us set up tables outside and drank wine with us all night. People were sleeping on the post office steps.)
* a tsunami evacuation in Hawaii (where you are ordered up the mountainsides. All the native Hawaiians stopped and bought cases of beer and starting make BBQs. Good times.)
Unfortunately, I was also working in mid-town Manhattan on 9/11. The saddest, most sobering day of my life.
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I've tried searching, but I can't find an answer. Can I bring packaged foods (sealed) into Brazil, like cereal, peanut butter or nuts?
Do the apartment buildings have back up generators? I was having a conversation last night with a friend and I said. "Imagine if you were stuck in an elevator when the power went out? No air conditioning, no bathroom, no water!!" From what I had been hearing, Rio has been brutaly hot the past week of so. I think I would have had a stroke if I had been stuck in the elevator for an extended period of time.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Do the apartment buildings have back up generators? [/QUOTE]
No, most do not. The Homeowner Associations are too cheap to buy them.
[QUOTE=Dboy]I've tried searching, but I can't find an answer. Can I bring packaged foods (sealed) into Brazil, like cereal, peanut butter or nuts?[/QUOTE]I have brought in packaged foods in both my carry on and checked baggage. Have never had an issue or question.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Check out Filhos do Carnaval.
[url]http://hbo-br.tv/series.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
Anyone know if its available on DVD?
[quote=inbrazilsoon]i have brought in packaged foods in both my carry on and checked baggage. have never had an issue or question.[/quote]
i brought some canned tuna in once and it was confirep001ed by customs. however they didn't bother 2 half gallons of apple pucker! :)
[QUOTE=Dboy]I've tried searching, but I can't find an answer. Can I bring packaged foods (sealed) into Brazil, like cereal, peanut butter or nuts?[/QUOTE]
I have brought peanut butter for an American friend who lives in Rio and I have brought pretzels for Bobby of Blame It on Rio with no problems; however, in each case, this was several years ago. Recently, I know of an American who brings a suitcase full of packaged food with no problems.
[QUOTE=Dboy]I've tried searching, but I can't find an answer. Can I bring packaged foods (sealed) into Brazil, like cereal, peanut butter or nuts? [/QUOTE]I have brought in cereal, pancake mix and syrup, peanut butter, green tea mix on several occassions. They were in a 70 lb duffle bag. I made pancakes for some GDP morning guests I had one time and they loved them! And Arizona Iced Tea now makes a sugar free Pomegranate Green Tea mix that they love as well.
I had no problems bringing these in but they were in checked 70 lb duffle bags. Most people don't know you can bring in 70 lb bags from the US. Not 50 lb (check with your airline though.)
I also used a cargo shipping service to ship down small appliances, kitchen items, etc. Paid a flat fee by box size. Takes at least 2 months for it get to Brazil and clear customs. They combine with other shipments. Limitations on how many of certain items you can have and how they have to be packed (out of original boxes to make resale tougher.) I shipped 2 big boxes to a friend's (total of nearly 300 lbs) ahead of this trip for $650 US and they were there waiting when I visited her. Everything I need to help set up a place. I focused on things they (really) overcharge for here: pots and pans and kitchen utensils, good pillows/sheets and blankets (which I used one of those air bag storage devices to suck out all the air so everything is really flat and took up much less room. Also better protected in shipping), small appliances and electronics (ipod port system, fans, juicer, food processor, etc.) I needed to buy a simple hand can opener last time and paid R$19. I realized they charge a fortune for that stuff here.
I have found a peanut butter in stores here now (Magic Time). Creamy and Chunky. Like Skippy. But R$16 for a small jar. They also have lots of green tea mixes now too. My question is. Why is ice cream so damn expensive in supermarkets here? They have tons of cow farms, tons of sugar. I stay away from buying frozen ice cream in stores and treat myself to a large soft serve sorvette waffle cone for R$1. 30 at a local palce instead. Beats the hell out of that small bland cosqinha (sp?) you get at Mickey D's for R$1.50.
[QUOTE=Dboy]I've tried searching, but I can't find an answer. Can I bring packaged foods (sealed) into Brazil, like cereal, peanut butter or nuts?[/QUOTE]
I always take packaged foods and goods with me into Brazil. Usually I have canned luncheon meat, whiskey, peanut butter (it is said that Americans always crave peanut butter once they are away for awhile), and plastic silverware.
I have never been stopped at customs. They DO know what is in your bag, I now realize, because on my last return the airline people specifically asked of I had any alcohol in the bag. I am sure they have it listed somewhere that I usually carry whiskey in my checked baggage.
You can buy most food you would want in grocery stores in Rio. But some things just do not taste the same.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I always take packaged foods and goods with me into Brazil. Usually I have canned luncheon meat, whiskey, peanut butter (it is said that Americans always crave peanut butter once they are away for awhile), and plastic silverware.
I have never been stopped at customs. They DO know what is in your bag, I now realize, because on my last return the airline people specifically asked of I had any alcohol in the bag. I am sure they have it listed somewhere that I usually carry whiskey in my checked baggage.
You can buy most food you would want in grocery stores in Rio. But some things just do not taste the same.
TJ[/QUOTE]The Snickers don't taste the same. Neither do the peanut m&m's. Different nuts.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I have never been stopped at customs. They DO know what is in your bag, I now realize, because on my last return the airline people specifically asked of I had any alcohol in the bag. I am sure they have it listed somewhere that I usually carry whiskey in my checked baggage.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Gee, I always thought when the airline screeners asked if I had alcohol in my bags they were screening for flammable liquids. Do you suppose they have a record of my drinking habits? ;)
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I have never been stopped at customs. They DO know what is in your bag, I now realize, because on my last return the airline people specifically asked of I had any alcohol in the bag. I am sure they have it listed somewhere that I usually carry whiskey in my checked baggage.
TJ[/QUOTE]They also have it listed whether you like your martinis shaken or stirred. More important than security measures to them.
TAM and GOL are the two major companies for domestic air travel inside Brazil.
GOL: A good news is that they now accept payment with foreign credit cards when buying tickets online. Excellent! It also very good that all of you who still have points with Smiles (Varig) can use them for exchange for tickets with GOL.
TAM: TAM is strange. They only accept payment with foreign credit cards when buying tickets online as long as it's done on their website as "outside Brazil". Those prices are much more expensive than if you buy your ticket on their website as "inside Brazil". At least 50% more expensive.
To get their "national prices" you'll need a CPF (which I can find reasonable) and also a brazilian credit card.
I got pissed of and called TAM. They explained that it's supposed to be cheaper for brazilians to buy their tickets, than it's for gringos. Weird!
I've noted that in general the prices on air tickets within Brazil is considerable cheaper than one year ago. :)
[QUOTE=Sperto]
TAM: TAM is strange. They only accept payment with foreign credit cards when buying tickets online as long as it's done on their website as "outside Brazil". Those prices are much more expensive than if you buy your ticket on their website as "inside Brazil". At least 50% more expensive.
To get their "national prices" you'll need a CPF (which I can find reasonable) and also a brazilian credit card.
I got pissed of and called TAM. They explained that it's supposed to be cheaper for brazilians to buy their tickets, than it's for gringos. Weird!
I've noted that in general the prices on air tickets within Brazil is considerable cheaper than one year ago. :)[/QUOTE]
I went to the Varig office here in the states and tried to purchase a one way ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted $275 bucks!! I was like WTF?!!! I had a brasilian friend call Varig in brasil and got the same exact flight for only 140R!!
[QUOTE=Bravo]I went to the Varig office here in the states and tried to purchase a one way ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted $275 bucks!! I was like WTF?!!! I had a brasilian friend call Varig in brasil and got the same exact flight for only 140R!![/QUOTE]
A big difference indeed.
The next time you can buy the ticket at the low price from the states, on GOL website (GOL owns Varig), and pay with your credit card.
[url]http://www.voegol.com.br[/url]
[QUOTE=Sperto]TAM and GOL are the two major companies for domestic air travel inside Brazil.
GOL: A good news is that they now accept payment with foreign credit cards when buying tickets online. Excellent! It also very good that all of you who still have points with Smiles (Varig) can use them for exchange for tickets with GOL.
TAM: TAM is strange. They only accept payment with foreign credit cards when buying tickets online as long as it's done on their website as "outside Brazil". Those prices are much more expensive than if you buy your ticket on their website as "inside Brazil". At least 50% more expensive.
To get their "national prices" you'll need a CPF (which I can find reasonable) and also a brazilian credit card.
I got pissed of and called TAM. They explained that it's supposed to be cheaper for brazilians to buy their tickets, than it's for gringos. Weird!
I've noted that in general the prices on air tickets within Brazil is considerable cheaper than one year ago.:)[/QUOTE]There is a third major domestic airline in Brazil now, Azul (see: [url]http://viajemais. Voeazul. Com. Br/[/url]). It was started by David Needleman and the original JetBlue folks (from the US). They basically took over the Campinhas International Airport as their hub in Brazil. About an hour to 75 minutes from GRU. Until they arrived the airport was mostly cargo (it is the largest carga airport in Brazil). They fly all over Brazil. They use the SD airport in Rio so you are closer to Centro. GOL started adding discount service from the Campinhas airport now to stay competitive. Campinhas is close to my MG home and it is very convenient to get in and out of there. Small modern airport. R$8, 20 minute shuttle bus service from the Rodovario in Centro Campinhas. They also fly direct from Rio to several locations.
Azul has an Advantage program (like GOL) and you get a free flight after so many. I have been paying R$60 one way from Campinhas to Rio, and Rio to Curitiba is listed as R$129 on a quick search. The closer to your date, the capacity drys up and prices increase.
I have been able to make reservations on both Azul and Gol (they both have English sepaking assistance but go through the numbers listed on their .com.br websites) and then pay at the airport 1 & 1/2 hours beforehand. I have also been able to use a US credit card on phone and web reservations. But could not do the multiple payment arrangement they offer Brazilians. US credit cards don't support that. Now I use a friend's credit card here and she gets to make 6 payments without interest. I just give her the R$ upfront and she books for me.
Azul is a great airline and they are creating a pricing war here with GOL and TAM. They are trying to get more Brazilians to fly (over 95% traveling mostly by bus).
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Mongers-
Brasilian domestic air travel IS getting cheaper because of the increase in competition. The emergence of WebJet and Ocean Air as low-cost carriers has forced prices down across the board. Due to the rising economy, large population, and shear geographical size, I would expect many more domestic carriers to come on the scene within the next few years. At some point I expect LAN to open a Brasilian affiliate, although this prospect was damaged a bit by Taca merging with Avianca (which controls and is affiliated with OceanAir). OceanAir will grow to become a major domestic carrier in the next few years and will add regional international flights as well.
GOL now has a cooperation with American Airlines in that AA Advantage members can earn miles on GOL flights. In the near future, the cooperation will grow to include redemption of miles for free flights. For purchases on the internet and phone, GOL has always accepted international American Express cards. Now it appears on their international English website that they accept V/MC as well but I have not personally tried it so I cannot verify. Keep in mind that GOL will allow you to simply make a reservation and pay for it at the airport in either cash or with any credit card at their POS terminal. Also, GOL has very, very reasonable rules for making changes on purchased tickets, with only nominal fees.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
Brasilian domestic air travel IS getting cheaper because of the increase in competition. The emergence of WebJet and Ocean Air as low-cost carriers has forced prices down across the board. Due to the rising economy, large population, and shear geographical size, I would expect many more domestic carriers to come on the scene within the next few years. At some point I expect LAN to open a Brasilian affiliate, although this prospect was damaged a bit by Taca merging with Avianca (which controls and is affiliated with OceanAir). OceanAir will grow to become a major domestic carrier in the next few years and will add regional international flights as well.
GOL now has a cooperation with American Airlines in that AA Advantage members can earn miles on GOL flights. In the near future, the cooperation will grow to include redemption of miles for free flights. For purchases on the internet and phone, GOL has always accepted international American Express cards. Now it appears on their international English website that they accept V/MC as well but I have not personally tried it so I cannot verify. Keep in mind that GOL will allow you to simply make a reservation and pay for it at the airport in either cash or with any credit card at their POS terminal. Also, GOL has very, very reasonable rules for making changes on purchased tickets, with only nominal fees.
Suerte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]
Webjet, Oceainair, Rico etc etc are only small competition, but still competition. All of them have been around for years. Reasonable prices, acceptable services but not that great prices unless you're going into some city very off-the-track. The mainly have flights in the North and North-East and the prices are not very low.
Visa/Mastercard with GOL... visa confirmed (as mentioned below), worked excellent.
My own experience of booking internal flights has been like anything else in Brasil - things Brasilian just follows their own rules. With GOL, rather than booking online, I printed out the best online price on the day then went round four different agencies round Prado Jnr and Isabel and got four wildly different prices. The one that had sold me some of my carnaval tickets and a rather sexy assistant who stared into my eyes, (coincidence shoorly!) eventually 'discovered' they could give me the best price. Is there any rule to be gleaned? I don't think so. Just persevere.
Very recently I was on the point of buying some TAM internal flights (but booking from my home country). Their online prices for the particular trips were (to my surprise) already better than GOL. But I checked with my usual international travel agent and she was able to trim off another large chunk. Again, I can't say, here's how I did and you can save yourself time and hassle. I can only suggest, put in the same time and hassle (whatever you're willing to expend), investigate all the options, and hopefully your efforts will pay off.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]My own experience of booking internal flights has been like anything else in Brasil. Things Brasilian just follows their own rules. With GOL, rather than booking online, I printed out the best online price on the day then went round four different agencies round Prado Jnr and Isabel and got four wildly different prices. The one that had sold me some of my carnaval tickets and a rather sexy assistant who stared into my eyes, (coincidence shoorly!) eventually 'discovered' they could give me the best price. Is there any rule to be gleaned? I don't think so. Just persevere.
Very recently I was on the point of buying some TAM internal flights (but booking from my home country). Their online prices for the particular trips were (to my surprise) already better than GOL. But I checked with my usual international travel agent and she was able to trim off another large chunk. Again, I can't say, here's how I did and you can save yourself time and hassle. I can only suggest, put in the same time and hassle (whatever you're willing to expend), investigate all the options, and hopefully your efforts will pay off.[/QUOTE]The entrance of Azul in the market has really shaken things up. Similar to when People's Express started in NYC decades ago, and then Southwest. Not only have prices become competitive, customer service and support has really improved. I take 2 domestic flights per week on average here in Brazil, I also still use the bus systems. But becoming less and less and air prices have come down. If you pre-plan at least several weeks out you can get great airfares. I make regular weekly trips and am booked up to 6 weeks ahead. If you wait to the last minute you might find high prices and think about the bus. (No different in the US with 14 or 21 day advance fares as a general rule.)
No need to run around to agencies if you plan ahead. I book flights online in minutes. This new airline war is another sign Brazil is moving ahead. Surprised you guys did not know about Azul.
Interesting with flights within Brazil is that many times it's cheaper to fly than taking the bus (I don't miss the 50 hours bus journeys from Fortaleza to Rio).
If you want to get a ticket in the cheapest classes you have to be quick. On some routes during high season there are only expensive tickets, then suddenly appears tickets in the cheap class. They might last only for some hours before they are gone.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]The entrance of Azul in the market has really shaken things up. ... This new airline war is another sign Brazil is moving ahead. Surprised you guys did not know about Azul.[/QUOTE]
I only thought they were not worth mentioning. These "low cost" airlines pop-up every now and then in Brazil, but die quickly (like BRA etc...). Azul is just another minor competitor like Webjet, Oceanair, TRIP, RICO...
Azul started about one year ago. I havn't tried them yet because of several reasons. What I've heard they havn't got a very good reputation, they don't travel to so many destinations and don't have really competitive fares.
This week I was buying four domestic tickets for my coming journey. TAM and GOL were considerably cheaper than AZUL in all cases.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I only thought they were not worth mentioning. These "low cost" airlines pop-up every now and then in Brazil, but die quickly (like BRA etc.). Azul is just another minor competitor like Webjet, Oceanair, TRIP, RICO.
Azul started about one year ago. I havn't tried them yet because of several reasons. What I've heard they havn't got a very good reputation, they don't travel to so many destinations and don't have really competitive fares.
This week I was buying four domestic tickets for my coming journey. TAM and GOL were considerably cheaper than AZUL in all cases.[/QUOTE]I will be checking out a few domestic flights in brazil out early next year. It is cheaper for me to fly straight to Rio (aerolinias argentinas, and gain more frequent flyer points) then fly from Rio to another brazilian city. I was looking at heading to Rio this December, but flights are either booked out or a rip off. Quantas want 10000 aud, approx. 9300 us dollars, lan chilie 5900 aud (5500 USD). Other than that I have to fly sydney to london, then london to Rio and it's approx the same. So it is off to Thailand (phuket) for the x mas and new year, then book a flight after the crazy christmas inflated prices end and spend 6 months off 2010 in brazil.
Its 2:06am CST on comcast channel WYIN a show featuring Brazilian music.
Mongers-
Both OceanAir and Webjet are more than minor competitors at this point in the Brasilian domestic market. Both airlines fly to just about all major Brasilian cities from both Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. OceanAir especially has many flights and is often the cheapest on the Sao Paulo to Rio-Santos Dumont route. OceanAir is owned by the Taca/Avianca group and will be expanding its presence enormously in the very near future. At present, both companies only take Brasilian credit cards over the phone and online, but a reservation can be made over the phone and the ticket can be paid for up to two hours before the flight with an international credit card or cash. Both companies have English speaking operators available.
On a different note, I forgot to mention in my last post that the cheapest tickets I have found on TAM have been booked through travelocity, especially on the EZE-GRU and EZE-GIG routes.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
[QUOTE=Sperto]I only thought they were not worth mentioning. These "low cost" airlines pop-up every now and then in Brazil, but die quickly (like BRA etc...). Azul is just another minor competitor like Webjet, Oceanair, TRIP, RICO...
Azul started about one year ago. I havn't tried them yet because of several reasons. What I've heard they havn't got a very good reputation, they don't travel to so many destinations and don't have really competitive fares.
This week I was buying four domestic tickets for my coming journey. TAM and GOL were considerably cheaper than AZUL in all cases.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you are getting your info on Azul. Not minor at all. Needleman is a major dude that built JetBlue, took that public, and I hear will be taking Azul public. There reputation is great amongst the Brazilians I work and speak with here in Brazil. Prices are as cheap or cheaper to Gol when booked in advance. First rate service (online, at airport, and in skies - where you pick multiple snacks yourself (try the Azil potato chips made from blue potates.) Route map is good and growing. On time record is good. They do tend to book up fast because they are considered chic, so best rates go quickly.
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
Both OceanAir and Webjet are more than minor competitors at this point in the Brasilian domestic market. Both airlines fly to just about all major Brasilian cities from both Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro...[/QUOTE]
I would hardly call it just about all major brazilian cities. WEBJET only covers 10 of the 27 brazilian capitals, OCEANAIR 14 capitals, AZUL 13 capitals and very few other cities.
I travel a lot over Brazil and just about always I find the best prices with GOL and TAM. Anyway, it's good that they get some competition.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Not sure where you are getting your info on Azul...[/QUOTE]
Excellent if you're happy with them.
IMO they travel to few destinations and are too expensive.
AZUL don't travel to the capitals in the west/northwest/north (except Manaus). AZUL is also missing important (to me) capitals as Macapá, Belém, São Luís etc.
It depends on your needs if they suite you.
My friend and I were recently talking about a GDP we knew in Help who was rumored to be HIV positive. She left rio in august and got married to a guy in Sweden. Now I know in order to get a fiancee visa to the states, the girl has to take an HIV test. Is it the same for europe too?
[QUOTE=Bravo]My friend and I were recently talking about a GDP we knew in Help who was rumored to be HIV positive. She left rio in august and got married to a guy in Sweden. Now I know in order to get a fiancee visa to the states, the girl has to take an HIV test. Is it the same for europe too?[/QUOTE]I think we just changed that law-
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[QUOTE=Bravo]My friend and I were recently talking about a GDP we knew in Help who was rumored to be HIV positive. She left rio in august and got married to a guy in Sweden. Now I know in order to get a fiancee visa to the states, the girl has to take an HIV test. Is it the same for europe too?[/QUOTE]
No need for that in Europe.
IMO I think it's a good idea to test both of you anyway.
[QUOTE=Bravo]My friend and I were recently talking about a GDP we knew in Help who was rumored to be HIV positive. She left Rio in August and got married to a guy in Sweden.[/QUOTE]Can you supply any more details about this girl? Do you know whether she had any kids? Where she went in Sweden. Etc, etc?
TIA
[QUOTE=Riofan6]Can you supply any more details about this girl? Do you know whether she had any kids? Where she went in Sweden. Etc, etc?
TIA[/QUOTE]
2 kids. Unfortunately, I have no idea where she lives in Sweden.
It's great to see that Brasil is opening its skies for more competition. I have used in the past Varig, WestJet and Ocean Air, Gol, Tam (I'm a Fidelity member with them; they also happen to have an alliance with Air Canada so any points earned with them can be used with Air Canada and vice versa). Varig and Air Canada are also part of Star Alliance but I'm not sure whether they have an agreement for their points being used with each other.
Air Canada is great since they have a daily direct flight from GRU to Toronto. If only they would finally add a direct flight from Toronto to Rio, they would be awesome, thus making that connection to boring GRU a thing of the past.
I have found so far that between Gol and Tam, Gol's rates are about a good 20% cheaper than Tam's. Another thing that I have noticed is that airfares have drastically increased in the past few years. I remember, in 2005 and even 2007, I was able to get a GRU-GIG for about 99 Reais and a GIG-BSB for 150 Reais. Now, it's easily double that amount.
So far the cheapest option I've found is to buy my internal flight tickets along my international flight together say from Expedia. This way, I'm able to get an international round trip to GRU, then connection to FOR and then to GIG and back to GRU before leaving Brasil for about $1000 to $1100. Which is not bad when you consider that if one were to buy a GIG-FOR round ticket, it would cost easily 700-900 Reais alone.
All in all, this is wonderful to see more competition if that means better service and better prices for us, the customers.
Btw, the link provided for Azul's site, is not working.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]... Btw, the link provided for Azul's site, is not working.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://viajemais.voeazul.com.br[/url]
Thanks Sperto!:)
[QUOTE=Sprite13]
Btw, the link provided for Azul's site, is not working.[/QUOTE]When I cut and pasted it - somehow a space was added after each dot in the URL. Sorry I did not catch.
Azul also offers a free Onibus shuttle service from GRU to Campinhas (I believe) for those flying Azul in Campinhas. I have never used. I think their site has info. I noticed that GOL in Campinhas is being very competitive now. Just booked a few flights there to Rio for R$59 for a few weeks from now. That R$10 cheaper each way than what I was able to book on Azul.
[QUOTE=SaoPauloB]That unforunate they make anyone take that hiv test because the hiv test is inaccurate and gives a false reading.[/QUOTE]Another conspiracy theory? please explain and enlighten us all.
Will be arriving in Sampa Dec 5 and thinking of spending 2 nights at Staybridge Suites on Rua Banderia, Paulista before meeting my co-worker on Monday. Is this a good choice? What is nearby in terms of clubs, massage?
Also I've been communicating with a GDP who is offering 2 hours for R$300; is that about right? Too much? Any suggestions greatly appreciated- PM if you want.
Very interesting that info about the free shuttle between GRU and Campinas. Anyone knows how long is that ride? Just curious.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]When I cut and pasted it - somehow a space was added after each dot in the URL. Sorry I did not catch.
Azul also offers a free Onibus shuttle service from GRU to Campinhas (I believe) for those flying Azul in Campinhas. I have never used. I think their site has info. I noticed that GOL in Campinhas is being very competitive now. Just booked a few flights there to Rio for R$59 for a few weeks from now. That R$10 cheaper each way than what I was able to book on Azul.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Very interesting that info about the free shuttle between GRU and Campinas. Anyone knows how long is that ride? Just curious.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was told the complimentary Azul shuttle goes from GRU to Campinhas airport (about 60 to 75 minutes). But looking at it online it appears to be for shopping trips for traveling in Campinhas. Perhaps the airline can give more info. Sorry for any misinformation on my part.
There certainly are other buses that run from Tiete to Campinhas rodovario and some bus companies may actually go just between the 2 airports without hitting the rodovarios (bus stations). Caprioli may be one of the companies.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Very interesting that info about the free shuttle between GRU and Campinas. Anyone knows how long is that ride? Just curious.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
There are info on their site:
[url]http://www.voeazul.com.br/aspx/servicoOnibusGeral.aspx[/url]
The shuttle don't pass GRU, and of course it's not for shopping trips.
[QUOTE=Sperto]There are info on their site:
[url]http://www.Voeazul. Com. Br/aspx/servicoOnibusGeral. Aspx[/url]
The shuttle don't pass GRU, and of course it's not for shopping trips.[/QUOTE]Hey Sperto,
Thanks for sarcastically pointing out my information error. But as you see in my post below. I actually caught my information error before you and posted some additional and corrected info. You have provided some really useful info to this site for a long, long time. And I have cited your terrific reports and thanked you for them. But I am quite capable of owning up to my own errors and correcting them. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? I do, I am off to Rio again in a few days!
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Very interesting that info about the free shuttle between GRU and Campinas. Anyone knows how long is that ride? Just curious.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sprite13,
As I mentioned in a previous post, my info on the Azul shuttle was wrong. Here's some info on bus shuttes available from GRU to Campinas if interested:
How to get to Campinas
For those arriving at the São Paulo International Airport (Guarulhos/Cumbica):
? There is a shuttle bus at Terminal 2, Wing see (Caprioli enterprise). The timetable can be seen here for the São Paulo Airport to Campinas Bus Station trip. The ticket costs about R$ 35, and it will take about 90 minutes to arrive in Campinas Bus Station. There are are $8 shuttles from Campinas Bus Station to Viracopos Airport in Campinas.
For those arriving at Viracopos Airport, in Campinas:
? There is a shuttle bus from the Airport to Campinas Bus Station. The bus timetable can be seen here. The ticket costs about R$ 8, and the ride takes about 20 minutes.
? Another option is to take a taxi straight from Campinas Airport to the venue. It takes about 25 minutes and costs about R$ 45, 00.
Caprioli is a bus company that I know of that provides both services. Hope that helps. Sorry again about misinformation I originally received and reported here. I usually head to Viracopos directly from my home in MG. Occassionally I take a shuttle from GRU to Tiete Rodoviario (R$8) then a bus to my home (approx. $35. $40). (Note: I also just started exploring SP more and there is a Metro station at Tiete. So if you bus into Tiete you can get out into SP by Metro)
[QUOTE=Hughdad]... ... ...I do, I am off to Rio again in a few days![/QUOTE]
No need for hard feelings.
Sprite13 asked for info on the shuttle. An interesting question. A quick look at the AZUL site gave the answer he was looking for. The shuttle don't pass GRU.
You wrote that the airline shuttle was for shopping trips. It seemed a bit strange to me. A correction seemed useful. After all the forum is for exchanging info. Incorrect info might cause problems to others.
[QUOTE=Sperto]No need for hard feelings.
Sprite13 asked for info on the shuttle. An interesting question. A quick look at the AZUL site gave the answer he was looking for. The shuttle don't pass GRU.
You wrote that the airline shuttle was for shopping trips. It seemed a bit strange to me. A correction seemed useful. After all the forum is for exchanging info. Incorrect info might cause problems to others.[/QUOTE]My apologies to you. A perfect example of me needing to keep learning the language. I quickly looked on the Azul website and interpreted the Onibus page (with all the pick-up's at shopping sites) to mean that they took passengers there during lay-overs. And I thought you were just being sarcastic. And I normally really enjoy good sarcasim (which you are really quite good at)- I can be sarcastic as hell myself. I was just trying to be helpful, as you were. Apologies again. And thanks again for the mountains of useful info you have provided here.
Hughdad and Sperto,
Thanks for both you for all the info provided. After, it seems that the most convenient and easiest way to get from GRU to Rio is to take a flight from GRU to GIG. I also heard that West Jet offers a flight from GRU to SDU. I was under the impression that the only flights going from SP to SDU were from Congonhas and not form GRU. Now this flight from GRU to SDU with West Jet was cheaper than both Tam and Gol. Now this is something to keep in mind, specially with the close proximity of SDU to the Zona Zul and even closer (even walking distance?) to Centro! Will definitely keep that in mind!
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Hughdad and Sperto,
Thanks for both you for all the info provided. After, it seems that the most convenient and easiest way to get from GRU to Rio is to take a flight from GRU to GIG. I also heard that West Jet offers a flight from GRU to SDU. I was under the impression that the only flights going from SP to SDU were from Congonhas and not form GRU. Now this flight from GRU to SDU with West Jet was cheaper than both Tam and Gol. Now this is something to keep in mind, specially with the close proximity of SDU to the Zona Zul and even closer (even walking distance?) to Centro! Will definitely keep that in mind![/QUOTE]Yes, I have walked to Centro and the Metro to go down to Copa from SDU with a light bag. I did it during the day. I still am leery about walking around Centro at night when alone. I am usually with others.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Hughdad and Sperto,
Thanks for both you for all the info provided. After, it seems that the most convenient and easiest way to get from GRU to Rio is to take a flight from GRU to GIG. I also heard that West Jet offers a flight from GRU to SDU. I was under the impression that the only flights going from SP to SDU were from Congonhas and not form GRU. Now this flight from GRU to SDU with West Jet was cheaper than both Tam and Gol. Now this is something to keep in mind, specially with the close proximity of SDU to the Zona Zul and even closer (even walking distance?) to Centro! Will definitely keep that in mind![/QUOTE]Depends on where you are in SP....Congonhas is relly in town and insome cases you go through much less traffic problems than GRU (not that I say that driving to Congonhas is traffic-free!) But something is making 5km in bad traffic and something is making 15 or 20!
Anyone have experience driving around Brazil? Is it safe? Specifically the route from Rio to Florianopolis. Should I be worried by myself in a car? Thanks....
I'm in Rio every month and I always rent a car. I'm a new york driver so I am accustomed to traffic, yet brazil seems to take the cake in terms of total anarchy on the road. Yet once you get your me FIRST mindset you should be ok. Thus far I only been in one accident, a drunk driver with a tranny passenger at like 2 am. I can not speak in terms of safety from violence as I never experienced and hope to never, yet the police seem very helpful esp with a little propina, LOL.
Now that Varig and AA are partners has anyone tried to book flight on AA using their Varig miles? I called AA a two weeks ago and they claimed not to have heard about the partnership but gave me the number 800 468 2744 to call Varig. I got a lot of static and could barely hear but they said they were Varig and, yes, they could book AA flights for me with my Smiles miles. However, the number no longer seems to work. I just get a dead line.
I went to Varig's site and after some searching I found the number 55 11 3127-9900. I am not sure how much it will cost calling this number but would prefer a US number.
[QUOTE=Jon32]Anyone have experience driving around Brazil? Is it safe? Specifically the route from Rio to Florianopolis. Should I be worried by myself in a car? Thanks....[/QUOTE]
How long is a piece of string. Do you have much knowledge of Brasil? Have you travelled interstate? Is your Porto good enough to navigate interstates? If so, and you're happy to cross the usual Brazilian hurdles, I suppose, why not. But I never have, so can't tell you yes. Personally, I would drive in somewhere like Belo Horizonte but not in Rio (tho some board members have). I'm quite an adventurous driver. I've driven in many countries including developing ones. On coastal routes in Brasil though, I don't think highjacks are a worry. I'm more concerned with potholes and crazy drivers.
[QUOTE=Edward M]Now that Varig and AA are partners has anyone tried to book flight on AA using their Varig miles? I called AA a two weeks ago and they claimed not to have heard about the partnership but gave me the number 800 468 2744 to call Varig. I got a lot of static and could barely hear but they said they were Varig and, yes, they could book AA flights for me with my Smiles miles. However, the number no longer seems to work. I just get a dead line.
I went to Varig's site and after some searching I found the number 55 11 3127-9900. I am not sure how much it will cost calling this number but would prefer a US number.[/QUOTE]
0800 121 121
[url]http://www.smiles.com.br/smiles/content/faleconosco/centralsmiles.htm[/url]
They also have online help/chat.
I used Smiles (Varig) milhas last week for issuing tickets with GOL. I did it on their website and it worked great.
[QUOTE=Jon32]Anyone have experience driving around Brazil? Is it safe? Specifically the route from Rio to Florianopolis. Should I be worried by myself in a car? Thanks.[/QUOTE] Have no reservations about driving anywhere. Just watch out for Burracas, prepare for roadhouse style hotels, get insurance, think twice about driving at night. And, take the hubcabs off and stick them in the trunk before you go.
[QUOTE=Sperto]0800 121 121
[url]http://www.smiles.com.br/smiles/content/faleconosco/centralsmiles.htm[/url]
They also have online help/chat.
I used Smiles (Varig) milhas last week for issuing tickets with GOL. I did it on their website and it worked great.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sperto. Can you elaborate? Did you do everything online without making a phone call? What web site, Varig or Gol? Is that 0800 number a US phone number?
Mongers-
As of today, Smiles miles CANNOT be used to book tickets on AA and AAdvantage miles CANNOT be used to book tickets on GOL. However Smiles miles can be EARNED on AA flights and AAdvantage miles can be EARNED on GOL flights. As of right now, this is the full extent of the AA-GOL partnership. In the near future you can expect the relationship to grow to include elite qualifying miles and redemption of miles, and possibly codeshare. To avoid confusion, remember that when GOL bought Varig they took over their Smiles frequent flier program; so in reality, Varig is dead, all former Varig flights are now GOL flight numbers and staffed by GOL pilots and flight attendants, and the former Varig website now redirects to GOL's website. The only remaining vestige of Varig are the 737-800's that still bear Varig livery. If you can get on the Varig 737-800's do it because they are roomier and more comfortable than the GOL 737-800's. These planes are still flown on the EZE-GIG, EZE-GRU, and EZE-FLO routes, among others.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
[QUOTE=Jon32]Anyone have experience driving around Brazil? Is it safe? Specifically the route from Rio to Florianopolis. Should I be worried by myself in a car? Thanks....[/QUOTE]
I drove from Belo Horizonte to Ouro Preto and back, and around both cities, although Ouro Preto is really a big town with a lot of tourists. There is a modern 4-lane highway between the two cities with a grassy median strip, similar to an interstate highway in the US, but with less traffic. No problems. Personally I would not drive in Rio, what with drivers running red lights and other crazy things, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Edward M]I went to Varig's site and after some searching I found the number 55 11 3127-9900. I am not sure how much it will cost calling this number but would prefer a US number.[/QUOTE]
If you are going to call Brazil, it's best to get an international calling card at Walgreen's, CVS, Walmart, etc. Otherwise, the phone companies will gouge you.
[QUOTE=Edward M]Thanks Sperto. Can you elaborate? Did you do everything online without making a phone call? What web site, Varig or Gol? Is that 0800 number a US phone number?[/QUOTE]
NOTE: This is for issuing GOL-tickets using Smiles milhas.
I know nothing about issuing AA-tickets using Smiles milhas.
It was a piece of a cake. :)
1. [url]http://www.smiles.com.br/smiles/index_html[/url]
2. Log into your Smiles account.
3. Choose "Issue your ticket".
4. You'll be redirected to GOL (who owns former Varig).
[url]https://compre2.voegol.com.br[/url]
5. Choose your cities, date etc.
A ticket within Brazil normally cost 10000 miles. On some routes there can be tickets available on reduced miles, 6000 miles.
6. Finish issuing your ticket.
You have to pay the airport tax, R$ 19,62. I did it online with my VISA card.
If you need assistance you could call Smiles Service Center.
Unites States:
• Open:Languages: English / Spanish / Portuguese: 24 hours
• Tel: 0800 121 121
• Fax:55 11 3127-9900
[quote=jon32]anyone have experience driving around brazil? is it safe? specifically the route from rio to florianopolis. should i be worried by myself in a car? thanks.[/quote]i wouldn't dare speak of the marvellous city, but i rented a car in curitiba (2006) and drove from there to guarapuava (my niece), blumenau (oktoberfest), and floripa (plus around the island). had a great time, no troubles. except getting lost in curitiba, twice, and being stopped at a policia post on br-101 and accused of speeding. (i wasn't; i was in the right lane, getting passed by everybody). i kept very-politely asking "did the officer get the license-plate? " until the officer reported by radio "the car had dark tinted windows" (mine were dead-clear, and that's when they let me go with an apology. i sincerely thanked them for working to keep us safe.)
as long as you're careful and leave your nascar impressions back home in the usa, i think you'll be able to do just fine.
I have rented a car a few times to drive outside of the cities (inside cities I usually take cab).
It was OK, helped in some cases by tomtom, no apparent danger.
I am fluent in Portuguese so this may help in case of hassle.
[QUOTE=Jon32]Anyone have experience driving around Brazil? Is it safe? Specifically the route from Rio to Florianopolis. Should I be worried by myself in a car? Thanks....[/QUOTE]
How long can you retain your phone number? Unfortunately I have not been in brasil for 5 months (July1st), I am concerned that my number will no longer work when I arrive in january. Anyone know how long your number will last if you dont use your phone?
[QUOTE=Bravo]How long can you retain your phone number? Unfortunately I have not been in brasil for 5 months (July1st), I am concerned that my number will no longer work when I arrive in january. Anyone know how long your number will last if you dont use your phone?[/QUOTE]
If you charge it with enough aiirtime for 3 months it will be valid for another 2.
A total of 5 months is the maximum.
Fyi, for those planning on visiting Rio in the near future and HELP. Its done, its over. The quality of ladies have dried up and nonexistent. MP isn't much help. Best to do the GFE for a few days as opposed to looking towards HELP. Watched many people leave the place empty handed and talked to a few men who stated, save your $30 to $40 reais and don't enter. Many are asking where did the women go? The termas, the office, etc.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Sperto]
You have to pay the airport tax, R$ 19,62. I did it online with my VISA card.
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Thank you very much for all the info. One question though.
Are you sure you used a VISA card and not an AMEX ?
I keep an AMEX card only to use with them because as far as I know they only accept AMEX from foreigners. Unless they recently changed it.
Thanks
[quote=jon32]anyone have experience driving around brazil? is it safe? specifically the route from rio to florianopolis. should i be worried by myself in a car? thanks....[/quote]
i drove from rio to buzios and from there to vitoria and then to porto seguro. i got two tickets leaving buzios within 15 minutes from each other.first one 400 reais and the second was 800.
i thought the speed limit was 60km and was driving 58 but it was 50km/hr
so watch out for the lampadas with cameras and read the signs written on the surface of the road approaching them. slow down when passing them and you will be ok.
i now drive all the time i am in fortaleza with no problem.
the worst part was entering bahia. the road was full of holes and we changed tyres twice so make sure your spare one is in good condition,
i need an international driving licence for brasil. so check this out too before leaving home and drive with your shoes on otherwise you will get a fine.
also have always an eye on the car otherwise can be easily stolen.
good luck.
[QUOTE=El Greco]If you charge it with enough aiirtime for 3 months it will be valid for another 2.
A total of 5 months is the maximum.[/QUOTE]
Damn, that sucks, I have had that number for 8 years!! Looks like I will have to get a new one when i go back next month.
[QUOTE=Bravo]How long can you retain your phone number? Unfortunately I have not been in brasil for 5 months (July1st), I am concerned that my number will no longer work when I arrive in January. Anyone know how long your number will last if you don't use your phone?[/QUOTE]a few years ago I didn't return to brazil for 8 months and still retained my same tim number. I have had it for over 3 years now. But I am generally in brazil every couple of months.
[QUOTE=El Greco]Thank you very much for all the info. One question though.
Are you sure you used a VISA card and not an AMEX ?
I keep an AMEX card only to use with them because as far as I know they only accept AMEX from foreigners. Unless they recently changed it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes, I used VISA.
AMEX used to be the only international card that GOL accepted for buying tickets online. It has changed, now they accept VISA (and I think Mastercard as well).
I have also been able to use Visa on the Gol site since 2005. Before, on the main page, when buying a ticket, they were requesting a CPF, so the way around this was to select Argentina under country and then, I was able to complete the transaction. However, not only everything was in Spanish but the charge was also in Argentine Peso. Now, seems that they have wisen up and have made things easier for making reservations online for non Brasileiros.
If you look for a ticket with GOL at a cheap price it's worth checking the GOL-site several times a day.
I've been "missing" one ticket. Salvador-Rio on the wednesday (17 Feb) when the carnival finish. This is a hard day to find a ticket at a good price as many brazilians go back home that day. The prices on that day have been about R$ 600-1000 for the last two weeks. Suddenly tonight there were prices from R$ 189+tax 19 (to Santos Dumont). A busride (27 hours) cost R$ 260. Got me a ticket. :)
This phenomena with cheap prices on GOL-tickets suddenly turning up occurs every now and then. Nice!
Sometimes GOL and TAM have special promotions where you can buy tickets for just 1 real. I never got one of these super promotions, but they do exist. I have a brazilian businesspartner who bought tickets to four different destinations at the total cost of R$ 25+taxes.
I am trying to call a cell phone in Rio. I am dialing 011-55-21-xxxx-xxxx
I know that 011 is for international dialing from the US and 55 is for Brazil. The problem is the 2 digits before the 8 digit Cell phone no. Is the 21 for the land line or the cell phones as well?
I called this no. from my Claro cell phone, while in Brazil, without dialing any area code, just the 8 digit no.
So from US, if 21 is not right, what would I use instead? I have no idea what brand that SIM card is?
Thanks for the help guys
SM1
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1]I am trying to call a cell phone in Rio. I am dialing 011-55-21-xxxx-xxxx ... So from US, if 21 is not right, what would I use instead?
SM1[/QUOTE]
If your party is in Rio, then you are dialing correctly. The Rio de Janeiro local area code is 21. If you activated your Claro phone in Rio then it also would have a 21 prefix and you could dial within that area with only the 8-digit number. I suggest you just try your call later.
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]If your party is in Rio, then you are dialing correctly. The Rio de Janeiro local area code is 21. If you activated your Claro phone in Rio then it also would have a 21 prefix and you could dial within that area with only the 8-digit number. I suggest you just try your call later.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply but you may have misunderstood me. I am calling from my Landline in US. Does it matter what other party's cell phone brand is? Do I still put 21 even if it is Claro, Oi or another Brand?
Also, I've tried it with 21 at different times but it just doesn't connect.
SM1
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1]Thanks for the reply but you may have misunderstood me. I am calling from my Landline in US. Does it matter what other party's cell phone brand is? Do I still put 21 even if it is Claro, Oi or another Brand?
Also, I've tried it with 21 at different times but it just doesn't connect.
SM1[/QUOTE]
No, I did not misunderstand you. The calling protocols are international for all telephone connections. They are not dependent on landline nor cellular, nor carrier. Perhaps your party has a phone from a city other than Rio. Perhaps your party no longer has an operating telephone. Here is a link to calling codes in brasil.
[url]http://www.countrycallingcodes.com/country.php?country=Brazil[/url]
I have, at times, had problems calling in and out of Brasil, even with all the 'accepted' international protocols. Sometimes the standard intro and exit codes just don't work, and I've had officials suggest alternatives (no, can't remember what they are, sorry!)
But the most common scenario I think is a blip. If you can't get thru, try again in a few hours or the next day.
Some cell phones in Brasil do seem to have their own peculiarities. And of course, many are simply unable to accept international calls, end of story.
Calling to Brazil is a lottery.
Even though you call the correct number you might get to a machine that tells you that the number doesn't exist, a strange tone or somebody answers that don't belong to that number.
Mobile phones are not that bad, except for the "fora da area ou desligado".
When calling to fix phones it might be problematic. Sometimes they added a number "3" in front of all numbers. OK. Call again... An empregada/kid/sobrinha/vizinha answers and tell you to wait one minute while she gets senhora YYY. "YYY, fone, vem rapido!" and tells you that she´s coming within one minute. Twenty minutes later the same procedure is going on. I go nuts when this happens...
Solution: Call back! Finally, you might get lucky.
Still, I look on the bright side. When I started to travel to Brazil the communication was letters or sometimes fax to the local phone/post office. The communication took weeks.
Now we have internet, email, orkut, msn etc. In a minute I'm watching one of the future "Miss Sperto" on the webcamera doing the "te amo, saudades"-routine.
[QUOTE=Sperto]When calling to fix phones it might be problematic. Sometimes they added a number "3" in front of all numbers. OK. Call again... An empregada/kid/sobrinha/vizinha answers and tell you to wait one minute while she gets senhora YYY. "YYY, fone, vem rapido!" and tells you that she´s coming within one minute. Twenty minutes later the same procedure is going on. I get nuts when this happens...[/QUOTE]
Hmmm.....the shock of recognition. All this time I thought this happened only to me!
[QUOTE=Sperto]An empregada/kid/sobrinha/vizinha answers and tell you to wait one minute while she gets senhora YYY. "YYY, fone, vem rapido!" and tells you that she´s coming within one minute. Twenty minutes later the same procedure is going on. I get nuts when this happens...
[/QUOTE]
Seriously, what is up with that! It had happened to me a few times and I thought I had misdialed until I checked the phone logs.
So I guess I have to keep trying since i'm dialing with right digits. Can't wait to talk to this Garota. she is in my dreams every night. God, I gotta get back to Rio.
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1]Thanks for the reply but you may have misunderstood me. I am calling from my Landline in US. Does it matter what other party's cell phone brand is? Do I still put 21 even if it is Claro, Oi or another Brand?
Also, I've tried it with 21 at different times but it just doesn't connect.
SM1[/QUOTE]
From what I know the company you are using has to have a contract with the other party's cell phone company so they can pay each other for their services.
Check with your company then for both phone calls and sms exchanging (in case you are using a cell phone).
Eg I could call but not send sms's. They only had contract for phone calls only.
Hope it helps
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1]So I guess I have to keep trying since i'm dialing with right digits. Can't wait to talk to this Garota. she is in my dreams every night. God, I gotta get back to Rio.[/QUOTE]You didn't say what happens when you call. Does the phone ring at the other end. Do you receive a recorded message or is the attempt to call disconnected?
So, finally, I called again and it connected. I used 21 and it worked. But the sound quality was really bad. We had hard time understanding each other with my limited Porto and her limited English. Anyways, I will try it some other time.
Finally, I can sleep easy tonite.
SM1
Recently there was a discussion that Meia Pataca employees were better than Terraco Atlantico employes:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ZrG3bVj9I[/url]
[QUOTE=Sperto] ... An empregada/kid/sobrinha/vizinha answers and tell you to wait one minute while she gets senhora YYY. "YYY, fone, vem rapido!" and tells you that she´s coming within one minute. Twenty minutes later the same procedure is going on. I go nuts when this happens...
[/QUOTE]
This happens to me only when I use services like Truphone. Never with Skype or with direct calls.
I believe it is some sort of scam. These people must gain money the more you stay online waiting.
Regards.B.B.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]This happens to me only when I use services like Truphone. Never with Skype or with direct calls.
I believe it is some sort of scam. These people must gain money the more you stay online waiting.
Regards.B.B.[/QUOTE]
It happened to me a lot of times when I called to Brazil from back home, on the usual line, no Skype etc. I have no idea if they gain money from me waiting on the line.
It could be a cultural phenomena. The person answering the phone gets so excited by an international call that she starts yelling for senhora XXX even though she´s two blocks away at the padaria. Or it could be because of laziness. The person answering the phone does some halfhearted yelling from the sofa where her lazy ass is rooted, watching a novela.
I don't know what's most annoying, waiting or that the person answering gets back to the phone every third minute telling you that now senhora XXX is coming just wait for one more minute.
[QUOTE=Prosal]As anywhere else.
Simply with good looks, language skills, cultural awareness, humor, initiative, imagination, self-confidence, charm, discernment, sensitivity, poise, time and of course cash.
Anyhow don't dream. The days when sex-hungry gringos on a one week holidays were an option for normal brasileiras are long, long, long gone. And don't think that less-travelled areas may offer you better chances with non-pros than cosmopolitan big cities. Even in provinces foreigners have a reputation as culturally inept sex tourists and girls have figured out since long that we only want to fuck them, so gringos are now more a curiousity to avoid than anything else.
BTW Cuiaba is a quite boring and uninspiring place. Better go to Goiania IMO.[/QUOTE]Has this character actually BEEN to Goiania? It's impossible to tell because there isn't anything being said here. A lot of other posters say they're going, then. Nothing.
OK, for anyone interested. I've been about half-a-dozen times in the last couple of years, including extended stays and excursions to the interior. North and west as far as Toncatins. Goiania: actually two cities in one. In the northern section. Zona airport (small, so reserve your car in advance) and rodovaria (actually a big, nice one, but it had ought to be as that's the major transit means for the estado) there is a whole lot of nothing. And it's big. Shabby hotels, fast food and grub meals only. Low-level prive, bar-sitters (kin of the SW) near the bus station/cheapest hotel area. A pain royal to navigater and drive through this mess. Southern sector the zona of the mais alto. High-rise blocks of flats, shopping malls (1st word style), green-belt parks, liveable with 4-star hostelry, restaurants, clubs, et. Al. Best strip club in town is on the main SP-Brasilia highway. Also out on the highway is the main attraction not to be missed. A gigantic complex Las Vegas-esque of sex motels, boites, woman of all types and descriptions, bars: it's a themepark of sex. (And see if it doesn't conjure to your mind Las Vegas.) A true oasis. The place is always open but comes alive at night on weekends. Before this times out on me here, just ought to say: the interior is conservative. But, you will be a novelty which plays favorably. So long as you're young enough and can dress appropriately, I. E. Sort of like them. Bottom line: most visitors will be content with seeing the City once, in my opinion, if that tells you anything.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]As anywhere else.
Simply with good looks, language skills, cultural awareness, humor, initiative, imagination, self-confidence, charm, discernment, sensitivity, poise, time and of course cash.
Anyhow don't dream. The days when sex-hungry gringos on a one week holidays were an option for normal brasileiras are long, long, long gone. And don't think that less-travelled areas may offer you better chances with non-pros than cosmopolitan big cities. Even in provinces foreigners have a reputation as culturally inept sex tourists and girls have figured out since long that we only want to fuck them, so gringos are now more a curiousity to avoid than anything else.
BTW Cuiaba is a quite boring and uninspiring place. Better go to Goiania IMO.[/QUOTE]Goias interior. As we know, Goias supplies a disproportionate number of the sex providers working in Europe, particularly in Spain. Girls from the smaller cities. And miniscule rural towns as well. Have done a turn or two in spanish boites and brothrels after having been recruited by the trafficking gangs. What this means for the (sex) tourist in Goias is that while a native English speaker can be a rare site, once they learn you are a foreigner, you'll be initially assumed to be Espanhol. A curious thing until you realize that the working girls return home with Spaniard spouses. Most towns have at least a couple of these guys living out their golden years. Until I met a few, had thought it was strange to see ATM machines in banks in the middle of nowhere offering two language options: Portuguese and Castillian. Apparently, these guys are great for the local economy. There surely isn't a whole lot much of else going on. Of course, if you're native to the rural south or west of the USA, you might find something kindred in the ambience and overall tenor of life in interior Goiais.
I have been to DR and Colombia. Many people have been talking about Brazil. Making me want to go!
My question is. Which city should I go and which is best for me?
Here is what I gather so far.
1. Brazillians have the "best bodies" in the world.
2. Brazil is the only latin country with the "spa" experience.
3. Everyone seems to go to Rio
4. Rio is the cheapest city in Brazil.
5. Rio is dangerous (there are safe parts. Just not sure where).
6. Sao Paulo. Is the MOST expensive city but might better suit my tastes.
Also, these are my preferences. I would love to check out the spa experience (some cities don't seem to have). I like light skin/mocha colored latin women. Spinner types with big boobs (real or fake). Which is why I love Medellion, Colombia.
What city do you recommend I visit and why?
[QUOTE=Hioctane]I have been to DR and Colombia. Many people have been talking about Brazil. Making me want to go!
My question is. Which city should I go and which is best for me?
Here is what I gather so far.
1. Brazillians have the "best bodies" in the world.
2. Brazil is the only latin country with the "spa" experience.
3. Everyone seems to go to Rio
4. Rio is the cheapest city in Brazil.
5. Rio is dangerous (there are safe parts. Just not sure where).
6. Sao Paulo. Is the MOST expensive city but might better suit my tastes.
Also, these are my preferences. I would love to check out the spa experience (some cities don't seem to have). I like light skin/mocha colored latin women. Spinner types with big boobs (real or fake). Which is why I love Medellion, Colombia.
What city do you recommend I visit and why?[/QUOTE]
My friend, just get the Bubba Boy Guide and go to Rio and get it over with. It covers everything you will need for your first trip.
Forget all the rest of Brazil until you try Rio because it has it ALL!!
There is NO better place in the entire world to seek what you wish, that's why I recommend Rio de Janeiro for you amigo.
[QUOTE=Hioctane]4. Rio is the cheapest city in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
I wish that was true.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Has this character actually BEEN to Goiania? It's impossible to tell because there isn't anything being said here. A lot of other posters say they're going, then. Nothing. I've been there.[/QUOTE]
And since when going to Goiania is a kind of Fantastic Journey ? It's barely a 1 hour 15 mnts flight from Congonhas, with some 15 flights a day !
So you've been there. Great. I also, and more than once. I reported. As Sperto and some others here BTW. And ?
Tell me you've been mongering in Ashgabat or in Grozny and I'll be MUCH more impressed.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
So you've been there. Great. I also, and more than once. I reported.[/QUOTE]
Could you post a link to one of your reports please Prosal.
[QUOTE=Prosal]And since when going to Goiania is a kind of Fantastic Journey ? It's barely a 1 hour 15 mnts flight from Congonhas, with some 15 flights a day !
So you've been there. Great. I also, and more than once. I reported. As Sperto and some others here BTW. And ?
Tell me you've been mongering in Ashgabat or in Grozny and I'll be MUCH more impressed.[/QUOTE]This is typical of what you've got to say: NOTHING.
[QUOTE=Prosal]And since when going to Goiania is a kind of Fantastic Journey ? It's barely a 1 hour 15 mnts flight from Congonhas, with some 15 flights a day !
So you've been there. Great. I also, and more than once. I reported. As Sperto and some others here BTW. And ?
Tell me you've been mongering in Ashgabat or in Grozny and I'll be MUCH more impressed.[/QUOTE]Everyone! Your reason for being here is to 'impress' Comrade Prosal. Try to keep that in mind as you post reports for this man.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Tell me you've been mongering in Ashgabat or in Grozny and I'll be MUCH more impressed.[/QUOTE]Why would he discuss that here? This is a forum about Brazil. Why are you even here anymore if all you can discuss is your "alleged" adventures elsewhere? When was the last time you were even in Brazil? I ask because I want to see if anything you have to say has any relevance anymore.
(Guys, if we all just ignore this dude he will probably go away. Something tells me he just likes the abuse he gets here.)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Could you post a link to one of your reports.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I actually went back on the search engines and had a look for Prosal's post about Brasil. Seems he .... [/QUOTE]
Humm. Let me understand. So you can make searches to back up how I'm a moron, but can't make a single [Brasil --> Other areas --> Goiania] search ? :rolleyes:
So here it is (FYI you will also find many others from me about provincial Brasil since the very beginning of this board): [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=560222&postcount=242[/url]
As you ask one of my reports and are undoubtedly a worldly person, here is my most recent complete travel contribution : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=856556&postcount=169[/url]
Happy Xmas and NYE period from Tbilissi, Georgia.
;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Humm. So let me understand. You can make searches to back up how I'm a moron, but can't make a single [Brasil --> other areas --> Goiania] search ? :rolleyes:
So here it is (FYI you will also find many others from me about provincial Brasil since the very beginning of this board): [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=560222&postcount=242[/url]
As you ask one of my reports and are undoubtedly a worldly person, here is my most recent complete travel contribution : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=856556&postcount=169[/url]
Happy Xmas and NYE period from Tbilissi, Georgia.
;)[/QUOTE]
No - just fascinated to read a Brasil report from you. I already know you post lots of good posts about Eastern Europe and will consult them if I am ever in that part of the world. Was it '07 you were in Goaiana?
Accurate, actual reports that are time/place/cost etc specific are useful no matter who they are from generally. I can listen to maladros if they have what I want (which is up to me to determine): I give anyone's reports a once over. Sorry you had to dig back so far to find one, but thanks.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I wish that was true.[/QUOTE]How would you rank the cities price wise?
[QUOTE=Pure Power]My friend, just get the Bubba Boy Guide and go to Rio and get it over with. It covers everything you will need for your first trip.
Forget all the rest of Brazil until you try Rio because it has it ALL!
There is NO better place in the entire world to seek what you wish, that's why I recommend Rio de Janeiro for you amigo.[/QUOTE]I have read the guides. But there are some things that guides can't tell you. Such as the danger factor. Some guys are telling me not to be in certain places after 9pm and some places you shouldn't step foot in. Also, everyone has their own tastes in the type of women they like. I hear northern Brazil is darker skin than the south. Nothing against the skin color. It's just my preference. Same as some places supposedly has lots of women with big asses (which tend to be thicker). I prefer them thinner. More athletic body with big boobs. I'm just trying to see what you all think is best for me and my preferences.
Jackson, I think a lot of people here would appreciate if Prosal could get his own thread.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Humm, and something tells me that you are under a full moderated mode for a reason.
;)[/QUOTE]Reason being: having not anted up the $20 'membership' fee?
[QUOTE=Hioctane]How would you rank the cities price wise?[/QUOTE]
I'm not eager to do a price ranking of the brazilian capitals. Let's just say that Rio and Sao Paulo is more expensive than the north and northeast.
Of course you can live and f**k cheap in Rio, but if you want to enjoy yourself the money tends to roll away quickly in Rio.
[QUOTE=Hioctane]I have read the guides. But there are some things that guides can't tell you. Such as the danger factor. Some guys are telling me not to be in certain places after 9pm and some places you shouldn't step foot in. Also, everyone has their own tastes in the type of women they like. I hear northern Brazil is darker skin than the south. Nothing against the skin color. It's just my preference. Same as some places supposedly has lots of women with big asses (which tend to be thicker). I prefer them thinner. More athletic body with big boobs. I'm just trying to see what you all think is best for me and my preferences.[/QUOTE]Rio has all shapes, colors, sizes. Enough to meet your varied tastes. And you even take several ladies on at a time if you are into sampling. There is a ton of info here if you do a little more work and searching here. There is even a forum about safety in Rio. Think of looking there?
[QUOTE=Hioctane]I have read the guides. But there are some things that guides can't tell you. Such as the danger factor. .[/QUOTE]
The more you travel to Brazil, the more you'll learn. You're correct, the guides are just that, guides. They are full of great info, but you have to find your own way at some point. For me, reading the various reports just gives me more reasons to explore, and learn more. As for danger, generally speaking, you should never put yourself in any situation that you don't feel comfortable with. That being said, you should still never let others dictate what your learning experiences will be. Be cautions, but have fun.
ryjer.
[QUOTE=Hioctane]I have been to DR and Colombia. Many people have been talking about Brazil. Making me want to go!
My question is. Which city should I go and which is best for me?
Here is what I gather so far.
1. Brazillians have the "best bodies" in the world.
2. Brazil is the only latin country with the "spa" experience.
3. Everyone seems to go to Rio
4. Rio is the cheapest city in Brazil.
5. Rio is dangerous (there are safe parts. Just not sure where).
6. Sao Paulo. Is the MOST expensive city but might better suit my tastes.
Also, these are my preferences. I would love to check out the spa experience (some cities don't seem to have). I like light skin/mocha colored latin women. Spinner types with big boobs (real or fake). Which is why I love Medellion, Colombia.
What city do you recommend I visit and why?[/QUOTE]
Replies by number above:
1. No, that's exaggeration based on mongers' experience with city garotas that are good looking enough to kick for trade.. In places like Angra, Piracicaba, and so forth outside the cities, the quality of the locals is very low..fat and scrubby. Ride for a few hours through the country outside Sao Paulo or Rio and you'll see how the physical fitness and average score tapers off outside city limits.
3. Everybody seems to go to Rio because it has regular international flights, beaches, a reputation for fun, and is extremely easy for gringos to navigate. Many of us go there on business and not because it was our choice for mongering. If I was traveling to SA on my own cash, I'd probably go to Med or Quito.
4. No, but it is probably the best value as in terms of experience/reals spent. Read the Fortaleza or other areas thread.
5. Any major city is dangerous if you get into the wrong area or handle things improperly. Stay in Ipanema if you are worried about crime. Its very nice. Keep a low profile, read the crime/safety thread, don't start stuff with locals, and you'll be fine.
6. For the color and type of girls you like, yeah, SP would be better...but it sounds like it makes better sense to just stick with Medellin if they have everything you love and it is cheaper. If it ain't broke, why fix it? :)
[QUOTE=Puta Playa] If it ain't broke, why fix it? :)[/QUOTE]
Ditto on that. There's nothing wrong with staying in your comfort zone. If you want to grow as a monger, you need to broaden your horizons.
Ryjer
Even tough we all agree that Prosal's latest run of only speaking badly of Brasil along with constantly referring to FSU in the Brasil forum is getting very tiresome, I will just say that for the sake of fairness, he USED to provide a lot of great info on other cities in Brasil in the past. He used to be very helpful with questions before. Not sure what happened to him to make a total 180% turn against Brasil. Probably he must have gotten pretty badly burnt to be so bitter about Brasil and everything about Brasilians. Oh well. Que pena!
[QUOTE=Sprite13] Probably he must have gotten pretty badly burnt to be so bitter about Brasil and everything about Brasilians. Oh well. [/QUOTE]
The back and forth between he and Sperto, is interesting, to say the least. There seems to be some real hatred. A newbie is gonna have troulble making decisions/plans based on the bickering. I don't blame either of them, but the whole thing is getting old. I know it's difficult to give unbiased info here, but you they seem to go back and forth. I love the info they give, and have at times followed in Sperto's footsteps, but I wish they would both just ignore each other!!!!!!!!
Ryjer
What if people submitted their manifestos about the sport of mongering in Brazil? These could all general information about the sport in Brazil. They could be limited to certain things like money, regular girls, clubs/boites, travel within the country, and a small narrative on your best experience. Nothing about GFE/Pro versue Non pro (muddies the waters too much). Imagine the wealth of info!!!!!! I would say you'd have to be a member with a minimal od 300 posts. Not that this number holds any significance, but a really involved senior member. I think it's an ineresting proposition. I'm already working on mine.
Ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]The back and forth between he and Sperto, is interesting, to say the least. There seems to be some real hatred. [/QUOTE]
Ryjerrob, of course I don't hate Prosal.
In the FSU-section Prosal makes good reports. In the Brazil section he made just about [B]ONE[/B] useful "field report", about Goiânia. Other than that his posting mainly consist of hateful complaints on Brazil, FSU-preaching and praising himself as the most impressive highroller in the history of mankind. Just because he's so bitter after his bad experiences of Brazil and the brazilian women, there is no need to attack posters who have valuable information to share. Like he recently attacked Zingadoon, Christopherd, Hughdad, Sprite13 and others.
I think it would be better if he had his own thread.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Ryjerrob, of course I don't hate Prosal.
In the FSU-section Prosal makes good reports. In the Brazil section he made just about [B]ONE[/B] useful "field report", about Goiânia. Other than that his posting mainly consist of hateful complaints on Brazil, FSU-preaching and praising himself as the most impressive highroller in the history of mankind. Just because he's so bitter after his bad experiences of Brazil and the brazilian women, there is no need to attack posters who have valuable information to share. Like he recently attacked Zingadoon, Christopherd, Hughdad, Sprite13 and others.
I think it would be better if he had his own thread.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but just didn't want to say, trying to keep the peace.
[QUOTE=Sperto]In the FSU-section Prosal makes good reports. In the Brazil section he made just about [B]ONE[/B] useful "field report", about Goiânia.[/QUOTE]
I don't make "field reports" simply because P4P has never really interested me, my burrinho. Nonetheless I've given dozens of infos such as this one (thanks Prosal, Hughdad says) :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=938812&postcount=320[/url]
And I'm not surprised that you associate yourself to a guy like Zingadoon, who is simply a flamer (doubled by a cheapo not even able to pay his 19.90$ contribution).
Anyway as your call to Jackson seem to be a dead call,better you and your twin mongers follow Ryjerob advice, which is using your ignore list bottom instead of stalking my posts.
Do that please. After all, you're nor a stalker nor a flamer, and you have not enough time on your hands to spend 2 hours a day on ISG for useless disputes, don't you ?
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Prosal]I don't make "field reports" simply because P4P has never really interested me, my burrinho. Nonetheless I've given dozens of infos such as this one (thanks Prosal, says Hughdad) :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=938812&postcount=320[/url]
And I'm not surprised that you associate yourself to a guy like Zingadoon, who is simply a flamer (doubled by a cheapo not even able to pay his 19.90$ contribution).
Anyway as your call to Jackson seem to be a dead call,better you and your twin mongers follow Ryjerob advice, which is using your ignore list bottom instead of stalking my posts.
Do that please. After all, you're nor a stalker nor a flamer, and you have not enough time on your hands to spend 2 hours a day on ISG for useless disputes, don't you ?
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Just a good advice. Considering your bad experiences with non-pro's in Brazil, P4P could be a good choice for you if you want some bunda. Just leave the cheap skanky ones for me.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Sperto]Just a good advice. Considering your bad experiences with non-pro's in Brazil, P4P could be a good choice for you if you want some bunda.[/QUOTE]
Oh well, still flaming, deriding and insulting. Old habits never die.
What exactly in "put me on your ignore list" you don't understand ?
You have a weird agenda indeed. Do yourself a favor and show the world you are not a spiteful psycho: stop hatefuly stalking my posts, stop making controvertial BS statements about what others are or are not, and stop pontificating about what must be said or not on ISG like if you owned the place. And put me on your ignore list. Oh, and don't answer to this post.
Nonetheless I imagine that more probably, you'll just continue to be yourself. Old habits never die.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Prosal]I don't make "field reports" simply because P4P has never really interested me, my burrinho.[/QUOTE]
The purpose of this forum is "the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women." You've stated clearly the impossibility of scoring non-pro's in Brazil (at least in your case). You've no interest in pro's (P4P). It doesn't leave much else to post about in the Brazil threads, except FSU propaganda.
You're so eager to conflict posters that you even contradict your own posts.
[QUOTE=Prosal]BH is by no means a "non-pro paradise". Minas is undoubtedly the most conservative state in Brasil, and girls there behave accordingly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prosal]BH is surely one of the best hidden sex secret in Brasil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto]Ryjerrob, of course I don't hate Prosal.
In the FSU-section Prosal makes good reports. In the Brazil section he made just about [B]ONE[/B] useful "field report", about Goiânia. Other than that his posting mainly consist of hateful complaints on Brazil, FSU-preaching and praising himself as the most impressive highroller in the history of mankind. Just because he's so bitter after his bad experiences of Brazil and the brazilian women, there is no need to attack posters who have valuable information to share. Like he recently attacked Zingadoon, Christopherd, Hughdad, Sprite13 and others.
I think it would be better if he had his own thread.[/QUOTE]Give Prosal his own thread and let him post away.
RR
[QUOTE=Prosal]I don't make "field reports" simply because P4P has never really interested me, my burrinho. Nonetheless I've given dozens of infos such as this one (thanks Prosal, Hughdad says) :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=938812&postcount=320[/url]
And I'm not surprised that you associate yourself to a guy like Zingadoon, who is simply a flamer (doubled by a cheapo not even able to pay his 19.90$ contribution).
Anyway as your call to Jackson seem to be a dead call,better you and your twin mongers follow Ryjerob advice, which is using your ignore list bottom instead of stalking my posts.
Do that please. After all, you're nor a stalker nor a flamer, and you have not enough time on your hands to spend 2 hours a day on ISG for useless disputes, don't you ?
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]I'm just here to share information what what I saw in the places I''ve visited. Hope some guys find it useful. Prosal apparently has another agenda. Proving anything to this character is not on the list of priorities. His Goiania report, btw, appears as if it could have been culled from the internet, telephone directory, newspapers, what have you: Info you would have after 5 minutes of being on the ground there. It would be ideal if the Prosal could ignore me but he evidently speaks a different languange. Bah-bah, moo, oink-oink burrinho, here's to you enjoying your Tbilisi manger mates.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Replies by number above:
1. No, that's exaggeration based on mongers' experience with city garotas that are good looking enough to kick for trade.. In places like Angra, Piracicaba, and so forth outside the cities, the quality of the locals is very low..fat and scrubby. Ride for a few hours through the country outside Sao Paulo or Rio and you'll see how the physical fitness and average score tapers off outside city limits.
3. Everybody seems to go to Rio because it has regular international flights, beaches, a reputation for fun, and is extremely easy for gringos to navigate. Many of us go there on business and not because it was our choice for mongering. If I was traveling to SA on my own cash, I'd probably go to Med or Quito.
4. No, but it is probably the best value as in terms of experience/reals spent. Read the Fortaleza or other areas thread.
5. Any major city is dangerous if you get into the wrong area or handle things improperly. Stay in Ipanema if you are worried about crime. Its very nice. Keep a low profile, read the crime/safety thread, don't start stuff with locals, and you'll be fine.
6. For the color and type of girls you like, yeah, SP would be better...but it sounds like it makes better sense to just stick with Medellin if they have everything you love and it is cheaper. If it ain't broke, why fix it? :)[/QUOTE]Thanks! That helped a lot.. :)
I've narrowed it to SP and Rio and will do more research.
The two negatives about Medellin is that there are no freelance clubs and there are no termas! Termas sounds like something I really want to experience. I hear it's nothing compared to Asia but I'll get to there some day as well :D The GFE/anal factor is something that is really appealing too in Brazil.
Don't you think we've had enough of the school yard antics? We get that you guys don't like each other. Message received.
I would put you BOTH on my ignore list except that I normally value both your posts too much. You are valued mongers and a credit to the forum. But this has gone far enough. Please just shake hands and let's get back to information about pussy.
;) пожалуйста мой друг - por favor o meu amigo
You have valuable wealth about mongering globaly, but it isn't about Brazil.
Can Jackson give you your own section?
[QUOTE=Hioctane]Thanks! That helped a lot.. :)
I've narrowed it to SP and Rio and will do more research.
The two negatives about Medellin is that there are no freelance clubs and there are no termas! Termas sounds like something I really want to experience. I hear it's nothing compared to Asia but I'll get to there some day as well :D The GFE/anal factor is something that is really appealing too in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
Good, you are well motivated then. Termas are great, every man should experience a high end termas once in his life. In Rio, try L'uomo in Copacabana and 4x4 in Centro at minimum. In SP, I can vouch for Bacos and Dreams and recommend that you check Kilt and Cafe Foto.
In the freelance aspect, Rio has a nice vibrant scene on Ave. Atlantica for guys who like to feel like the hunter. I understand that Love Story in SP is also very good. Consider the escort agencies that are listed here in another thread. They are a good value.
It sounds like Med is conservative and you aren't used to GFE there..in that case, you'll like Brasil. I feel that most of the GdP's really like their jobs and are "sex robots", as Lukasek said in a recent post. This makes for GFEs as you mentioned. I've met a couple GdP's that were somewhat reserved and just trying to make money, but predominately the seem like they are in the trade as a lifestyle. Days at the terma, then nights at Help or similar club to find more men. Drink, fuck, drink, fuck, sleep, drink, fuck. until the weekend comes. I'm not sure what breaks the cycle, but I've never met a GdP older than 30.
With regard to safety, Brasil is radically different than other places that I monger. In Mexico and Japan for example, the ladies seem very concerned about limiting their risk through inspection and using condoms religiously. In Brasil, my junk has never been inspected prior to sex, all BJ's have been BBBJ, and on a couple occasions I've been offered bareback anal.
If GFE/anal is a large factor, as you suggested, I can't think of a better place than Rio (escorts and Centro casas) for quality and opportunity.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]I'm just here to share information what what I saw in the places I''ve visited. Hope some guys find it useful. Prosal apparently has another agenda. Proving anything to this character is not on the list of priorities. His Goiania report, btw, appears as if it could have been culled from the internet, telephone directory, newspapers, what have you: Info you would have after 5 minutes of being on the ground there. It would be ideal if the Prosal could ignore me but he evidently speaks a different languange. Bah-bah, moo, oink-oink burrinho, here's to you enjoying your Tbilisi manger mates.[/QUOTE]As I said I am going to try to stay above the fray on personal battles here and just post info going forward. (A kindler, gentler Hughdad for the new year!) Seriously. I'm just really busy. And as fun as sarcasticially exchanging verbal blows with someone here is. It does not beat getting laid and the info here has been invaluable for that. I'll limit my posts to info exchange going forward. So I agree with the recent posts to Sperto and Prosal to draw a cease fire. We can make up our own minds as to what info is relevant to us. Is important. And if some info is false we can alert all to this as well. Others have been getting drawn into the feud as well.
I can say that I have received a tremendous volume of invaluable advice from Sperto. He took the time to create those tremendous mongering maps of Centro Rio and Copa. It changed my mongering. It gave me all the confidence I needed to venture out. And of course it all started with the legendary Bwana Dik and Bubba reports. And there has been great info that I garnered from many other experienced guys too. And now I am exploring Sao Paulo and the Sui Generis and JW Capp reports have been my invaluable roadmaps to a great, cost-effective. Yet mind-blowing experience there. I was under the impression that SP was expensive. I'll be posting my experiences there soon.
And, Zingaddon. Prosal reached out and gave me direct advice as well in answers to my questions about Guaruja was I headed there. He took the time to write a detailed report about SP beach towns when I was going there. He was the only one to write to me about it. I have no doubt he had many experiences in Brazil, so I am not sure why you need to call him out on his Goiania info. He took the time and provided straight info. Either use it or don't. It seems you are looking to head into a feud with him too. You jumped down his throat in the SP forum for posting some info about (I felt valuable)Love Story info for those looking to go there. You immediately assumed that he was lying about 2 places at the same time. The dude was just trying to contribute and never made such a claim.
At any rate, I'll post my SP experiences there.
Happy holidays to all here, and a great (pussy-filled) new year.
HD
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]...I feel that most of the GdP's really like their jobs and are "sex robots", as Lukasek said in a recent post....[/QUOTE]
Where ?!?
I never said something like this, honestly I think they are very far to be considered as " sex robots".
I miss termas girls from the moment I left Rio, cause after about 40 terma girls only 1 was not GFE.
It is still unbelievable to me as they can offer such an unforgettable experience that I have seldom got in my life with pros.
Usually in a night clubs, pick up bar or brothels I try to choose the best deal between beauty and GFE factor, but in terma I only choose by beauty, cause almost all of them provide real GFE.
Even in FKK in German, most similar thing to terma clubs, if you only choose by beauty you can end to session a non total passionate girl.
It is very confortable in terma to relax knowing in advance you are gonna to have great time and something closer to make love with girl instead to have sex with a pro.
And yes, you have to behave with them as if they were just normal girls and not pro, obviously they can lie and cheat but also normal girls do that. But I found that to be kind and polite and respect them it pays off much more than with other pros I got in the world.
Carioca girls have something I did not find in Argentina, I was there too..., and even colombians girls are colder, never been there but I got few in my home city.
If only the price of terma could not go higher....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Where ?!?
I never said something like this, honestly I think they are very far to be considered as " sex robots".
I miss termas girls from the moment I left Rio, cause after about 40 terma girls only 1 was not GFE.
It is still unbelievable to me as they can offer such an unforgettable experience that I have seldom got in my life with pros.
Usually in a night clubs, pick up bar or brothels I try to choose the best deal between beauty and GFE factor, but in terma I only choose by beauty, cause almost all of them provide real GFE.
Even in FKK in German, most similar thing to terma clubs, if you only choose by beauty you can end to session a non total passionate girl.
It is very confortable in terma to relax knowing in advance you are gonna to have great time and something closer to make love with girl instead to have sex with a pro.
[/QUOTE]
Sorry, just traced that back and realized that it was Uzinuzin's comment about sex robots. He had found a nice shy unassuming escort and claimed that, by releasing her name here, he could be sure ISG crew would have corrupted her into a 'sex robot' like all the others by the time he returns. Who is in charge of that project? ;)
When I say refer to them sex robots, I mean that they are purpose built for GFE and don't hold anything back like a normal girl. They operate on a different value systems, one that we can hope spreads to other countries.
Hi,
I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to post. Please be patient since this is my first post on the forum.
I'd like to know if anyone here has some information about the brazilian Pornstar Priscila prado, as you can see her in this clip for example:
[url]http://www.Tnaflix.com/view_video.php? Viewkey=1868d7ad86138ea56ad6[/url]
I'd like to know if someone has contact info about her. Thank you in advance.
Duke
[QUOTE=Duke Fleed]Hi,
I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to post. Please be patient since this is my first post on the forum.
I'd like to know if anyone here has some information about the brazilian Pornstar Priscila prado, as you can see her in this clip for example:
[url]http://www.Tnaflix.com/view_video.php? Viewkey=1868d7ad86138ea56ad6[/url]
I'd like to know if someone has contact info about her. Thank you in advance.
Duke[/QUOTE]
At one point she was on the website GirlsBCN in Spain. You could double check, but sorry no up to date info on this garota
I couldnt view the video via the link to make her picture out. but however there is a Melissa Prado on girlsbcn.com who shuttles between Madrid and Barcelona. dont know if she is whom you are looking for. [url]http://www.girlsbcn.net/girls_archivos/gbmelissa4.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Duke Fleed]Hi,
I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to post. Please be patient since this is my first post on the forum.
I'd like to know if anyone here has some information about the brazilian Pornstar Priscila prado, as you can see her in this clip for example:
[url]http://www.Tnaflix.com/view_video.php? Viewkey=1868d7ad86138ea56ad6[/url]
I'd like to know if someone has contact info about her. Thank you in advance.
Duke[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tribute15]I couldnt view the video via the link to make her picture out. but however there is a Melissa Prado on girlsbcn.com who shuttles between Madrid and Barcelona. dont know if she is whom you are looking for. [url]http://www.girlsbcn.net/girls_archivos/gbmelissa4.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Tribute 15..but she's not the girl i was talkin' about.
I hope you can see a pic of her here:
[url]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3245/priscilaprado.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Duke Fleed]Thanks Tribute 15..but she's not the girl i was talkin' about.
I hope you can see a pic of her here:
[url]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3245/priscilaprado.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]She looks like Elin, Tiger Woods wife. Perhaps she was cast into one of the 3 or 4 porn movies being ushed into production about him. One actually stars the blond porn star (Holly Sampson) he allegedly with as his wife.
Feliz Natal!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tamjSao4WNc[/url]
[QUOTE=Mangera]Actually, the ocean water is better in the Copa side, as the canal between Ipanema and Leblon release human crap out to sea. As for the babes on the beach, thats a different story.
I get a tan in Ipanema, but I do not get into the water. Ask the locals, they will tell you.[/QUOTE]
They seem to be having a good time swimming in crap:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zwwMhjaUI[/url]
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34652661/ns/weather/[/url]
At least 15 people killed in Angra dos Reis at upscale hotel. No indication in this article of who they were or where they were from.
[QUOTE=Edward M][url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34652661/ns/weather/[/url]
At least 15 people killed in Angra dos Reis at upscale hotel. No indication in this article of who they were or where they were from.[/QUOTE]
Terrible, I feel terrible for their families. Honestly, I am surprised that this does not happen more often. The first time I saw the favelas in the Copa area, I said "What happens if they have a earthquake, fire or mudslides here? All these houses would be wiped out and thousands would be killed!"
[QUOTE=Bravo]Terrible, I feel terrible for their families. Honestly, I am surprised that this does not happen more often. The first time I saw the favelas in the Copa area, I said "What happens if they have a earthquake, fire or mudslides here? All these houses would be wiped out and thousands would be killed!"[/QUOTE]Watching the BBC and Al-Jezeera (isn't it available in the Freedom-loving Homeland?) here in Thailand, a lot of video and interviews on site with eye witnesses. Nothing you wouldn't have expected to see from coverage of this type of natural disaster. The 'upscale hotel' is reported as a 15-room pousada in a beautiful natural setting with nice views. Rescue hampered as location reachable only by boat.
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Yeah, they had a European style cabaret show with samba dancers and I don't know what all. After midnight, they had a live sex show and I think a second one at 2:00. And there were definitely a lot of free lancers around. As to the location(s) I don't remember and I have not gone back since. I more preferred the beach cafes/bars scene.
Do they still do the live sex show? I have not heard about that in a long time.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to a live sex show in Rio since the 80's, yes I saw the show in club Erotika back then and we used to go to a place a few blocks away called Club Munchen that had a lesbian show and a male/female sex show, plus girls for takeout. I don't really frequent the places near Prado Junior anymore except Barbarellas and that has been a few years, I only went there if I was looking for a calm/easy early night otherwise I go to Help.
Just to get a good massage, I need nothing sexual involved, but one that knows how to do it.
Any addresses please guys ?
[quote=lukasek]just to get a good massage, i need nothing sexual involved, but one that knows how to do it.
any addresses please guys ?[/quote]yeah, i'd like to know this also. no happy ending needed, though i'd prefer the therapist be female. the last massage i received in rio was at solarium and it was fairly horrible. the massage table felt like a sheet on top of a pile of rocks. ugh.
I'm guessing this site has been posted before, but even if it was, I thought it was worth listing/repeating: [url]www.easyportuguese.com[/url].
Mostly phrases but some grammer also. And some sections have pronunciation short imbeded audio clips. Section broken into useful sections, hotel, taxi, love, etc. Kind of a online starter phrasebook. And it is FREE!
I'm back to Rio next week and found the site a useful tool to help me to start working on my Portuguese, a task that seems to wait until 2 weeks before and after each trip.
Delecti
Don't think this was mentioned here before. Happened to catch Law & Order Criminal Intent on AXN in Rio which contained a element of attempted influence buying on the part of a security firm executive interested in Rio winning the Olympic bid.
[url]http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/olympic_bids/1216134643.html[/url]
BTW, this story incorrectly states that the member agreed to be bought. She did not and was killed by the jealous husband of her lesbian lover.
Pretty cool site I found that shows what cab fare should be.
[url]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/url]
[QUOTE=Edward M]Pretty cool site I found that shows what cab fare should be.
[url]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/url][/QUOTE]
There is also a guide printed inside the free Riotur (tourist) booklet now. It is quite handy for haggling over a fixed price. Does not help much if you get him to put the meter on and he goes a naff route. I´m finding it helps to give him an idea of the route you want to take when you get in if you know it - shows you are not a total newbie that can be taken for a tour of road diversions too. You´ll find the Copa Riotur office on Princesa Isabel - much more helpful than the Centro one and has good Carnaval info too.
It goes without saying perhaps, but when choosing a taxi:
- choose a new-looking car, the more expensive the better (it may have tires, meters, lights etc that actually work properly, decent air-con and so on).
- choose a taxi driver that looks honest - eg clean-shaven, clean shirt, without the face of a thug (prejudicial, I know, but a handy guide all the same).
- you can ignore the ´line´- just pick the one you want
- you don´t need top Porto, but it helps to know words like left, right, stop here now please, and so on! A stream of rapid Porto helps establish control. Then you can revert back to dumb gringo as if you cannot be bothered. ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Just to get a good massage, I need nothing sexual involved, but one that knows how to do it.
Any addresses please guys ?[/QUOTE]
I have been wanting to try this massage place but last time I was in Rio I called every day and got no answer, I will try again next time:
[url]http://www.massagemalternativa.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I have been wanting to try this massage place but last time I was in Rio I called every day and got no answer, I will try again next time:
[url]http://www.massagemalternativa.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks, but which one from their massages you will choose ? as I'd need just a normal, but good, massage, not alternative.
[quote=lukasek]thanks, but which one from their massages you will choose ? as i'd need just a normal, but good, massage, not alternative.[/quote]
the only legit massage place that i've been able to find during my trips to rio is a place in centro off of rua senador dantas. it is right across the street from the metro station - cinelandia stop, i think. this woman, celia, is a registered massage therapist and has very strong hands. she speaks fluent english, so it's easy to communicate and set up an appointment. i think it was r150 for 2 hours.
[url]http://saude-beleza.vivastreet.com.br/boa-forma+centro/celia-cerqueira---massagem-shiatsu-terapeuta-corporal/5914305[/url]
i recently saw monica (centro) and thought she was pretty good. price was r$50 for 40 minutes. the place was clean and there were a number of other girls working there (one a real looker).
[url]http://www.destack.com.br/terapeutas_z_a_centro.htm[/url]
there also are a few listed for copacabana
[url]http://www.destack.com.br/terapeutas_z_a_copacabana.htm[/url]
if you want a legitimate massage what you are looking for is terapeutas, though like monica some will also list themselves as massagistas (which usually means more sex than massage).
[quote=exec talent]i recently saw monica (centro) and thought she was pretty good. price was r$50 for 40 minutes. the place was clean and there were a number of other girls working there (one a real looker).
[url]http://www.destack.com.br/terapeutas_z_a_centro.htm[/url]
there also are a few listed for copacabana
[url]http://www.destack.com.br/terapeutas_z_a_copacabana.htm[/url]
if you want a legitimate massage what you are looking for is terapeutas, though like monica some will also list themselves as massagistas (which usually means more sex than massage).[/quote]
thanks for the links et! i've been looking for some good therapists for quite awhile and it was hard for me to any good ones through my searches on google.com.br and even the rio classificados.
[quote=exec talent]
if you want a legitimate massage what you are looking for is terapeutas, though like monica some will also list themselves as massagistas (which usually means more sex than massage).[/quote]
i thought the terapeutas meant they gave you a legit massage with a hj at the end.
[quote=bravo]i thought the terapeutas meant they gave you a legit massage with a hj at the end.[/quote]
the happy ending is optional.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]the happy ending is optional.[/QUOTE]
It is? I didnt know that. Do you have to pay more for it?
[QUOTE=Bravo]It is? I didnt know that. Do you have to pay more for it?[/QUOTE]
Pricing was upfront, so I imagine whether you opt for the Cinderella story or not, the price is the same. My experiences in Rio are that it is easy to find sex. Hard to find a good legit massage.
Prices for P4P services have plummeted and that is a good thing. Let's try and keep the prices that way. Gentlemen, back in 2005 during Help's heydays, this used to be a very nice venue and it provided tremendous value for the travelers among us. I don't like being a broken record, but the reason for the outrageous prices and the virtual elimination of the local monger from Help was our "smart guy" who always overpay for garotas and wonder why prices kept right on blowing up. Yes, it was because of you, the "smart guy" who for a lack of better term kept prices inflated to ridiculously unrealistic levels.
You must understand that when people post information on the web, it is becausee they, those with information, are sharing a good thing with all of us so we can do like they do. Respect local traditions, customs and prices so things don't get out of hand. However, "smart guy" tends to be selfish and always uses the same line to defend his "smartness": It is my money. Yes it is and I respect that. But did you know that these girls talk a lot? Did you know they expect the same generosity from everybody? Did you know that this distorts reality for all the other GDP's in Copa?
The minimum salary in Brazil ia approximately BR 465 per month. That's in 2009. I will list for you the prices for services from Help with another institutionto make my point as to why prices go up outrageously due to the generosity of Mr. "smart guy" who completely distorts the pricing curve, making everybody else pay for their "Smartness":
Year Location Price(ST) (Price (TLN)
2005 Help 70 - 100 150 -200
2005 4 X 4 160 N/A
2006 Help 150 200
2006 4 X 4 170 N/A
2007 Help 200 300
2007 4 X 4 180 N/A
2008 Help 250 400
2008 4 X 4 200 N/A
2009 Help 300 500
2009 4 X 4 220 N/A
This is why I keep the best bargains in Brazil to myself. If you can distinguish the price differential, the prices at 4 X 4 have gone up BR60 in 5 years, the prices at Help as much as BR 350 due to "smart guy". "Smartguy" lurks out there trying to destroy institutions with his attitude and "intelligence". The locals who have shown me their spots always make me pledge not to tell "smart guys" about these places because they fear being priced right out of the venue, just like it happened in Help when it used to be open. Do the math and you see why really good places for the hobby in some cases need to be stumbled upon instead of disclosed because there are so many "smart guys" among us who don't respect local traditions and ground rules.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Prices for P4P services have plummeted and that is a good thing. Let's try and keep the prices that way. Gentlemen, back in 2005 during Help's heydays, this used to be a very nice venue and it provided tremendous value for the travelers among us.
2009 Help 300 500
2009 4 X 4 220 N/A
[/QUOTE]
Good post and analysis but in 2009 I payed 250 reais for Help girls mostly TLN as opposed to 220 reais at 4x4 for 40 minutes in a cabin. For me Help represented more value and bang for the buck.
But I get your point, for sure girls in Help were asking 500 reais but only fools paid that, it's like paying sticker price on a brand new car. I would like to see them ask for 500 reais standing on the street in front of Balcony bar.
Voyajer1,
yes good post, for me the biggest problem are not only the "smart guy" but the first timer too. When you arrive for the first time, if you are not used to negotiate all, not only pussy, and if you never read forum like this, you could end to overpay without neither know it.
Even yesterday at Balcony I was talking with a girl and when she asked why I do not take her, I said, you want 150 reais for surely not more than 1 hour +50 reais hotel lidi, tomorrow afternoon I call Karlamodels and for only 120 reais I have girl delivered to my apt for 2 hours....she immediately left and went to approach another gringo. It was not to save 30 reais, but I went to sleep alone, tomorrow morning I woke up at 6:30 for a running on avenida atlantica and I surely no regret.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Voyajer1,
yes good post, for me the biggest problem are not only the "smart guy" but the first timer too. When you arrive for the first time, if you are not used to negotiate all, not only pussy, and if you never read forum like this, you could end to overpay without neither know it.
Even yesterday at Balcony I was talking with a girl and when she asked why I do not take her, I said, you want 150 reais for surely not more than 1 hour +50 reais hotel lidi, tomorrow afternoon I call Karlamodels and for only 120 reais I have girl delivered to my apt for 2 hours....she immediately left and went to approach another gringo. It was not to save 30 reais, but I went to sleep alone, tomorrow morning I woke up at 6:30 for a running on avenida atlantica and I surely no regret.[/QUOTE]
Do not forget the coconut drink and... Churrasco....
Ah I should have been on Avenida Altantica in October but... :(
IT
[QUOTE=Voyajer1] Gentlemen, back in 2005 during Help's heydays,[/QUOTE]
Without being controversial, 2005 was by no means Help's "heydays". Decline began in the late 90's.
I stand corrected.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Without being controversial, 2005 was by no means Help's "heydays". Decline began in the late 90's.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Prices for P4P services have plummeted and that is a good thing. [/QUOTE]
V1,
Good post. Many good points.
It's interesting to see the price plummet now that HELP has closed. Obviously the price of pussy in Rio has it's own economics and HELP played a very important role in supporting the inflated price. There has been a lot of talk over the years about the "economics of P4P" and how it does (or does not) follow traditional commodity pricing tendencies.
Following supply and demand theory, one could argue that with the closing of HELP, you have effectively removed a large part of the supply (ie large numbers of GDP 'available' for sessions) and that the price should have gone up. But you report that just the opposite is true and that while the girls are trying to stage a replacement venue by moving to Balcony the price just cannot stay up. Not being there to witness the phenomenon first hand, I have to ask myself "why"?
Regardless of the local market, you would have to believe that if guys had migrated to Balcony in sufficient numbers, then the girls would be back in business with no lack of customers and therefore the price would stay the same. I can't believe that ALL the girls have migrated to Balcony 'en masse' have they? Is it REALLY a case of too many girls chasing too few customers? Has the closing of HELP really chased away the customers?
I have to believe that the closing of HELP has not reduced the gross number of mongers actually coming to Rio. And I sure don't believe that the closing of HELP has made us any less interested in chasing after pussy so SURELY we must have all disbursed to pursue the hobby elsewhere in Rio be it in Termas or other sources of GDP. But again, I don't read that the crowds at the usual Termas has swelled, so what is it?
Could it be that the prices were being supported by the "HELP factor" that provided a venue for newbies and 'smart guys' to come and inflate the price? Could it be THAT simple?
Curious minds want to know!!!!
Anyone? Anyone? Are there any budding economists out there who care to explain the phenomenon?
Too many "smart guys" were paying, AND bragging about their tremendous negotiating skills (BR500 for TLN). I was there just listening to these people argue that "That's how we roll, baby". They came in all shades and nationalities. If they only knew what the girls told me and their friends about them behinfd their backs (Suckers, guppies, stepping stools, doormats, etc.), they'd be shocked. But hey, like the "smart guys" always said, "It is my money". You've got to be kidding. Sometimes you just need to ask for directions to get to your destination.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Good post and analysis but in 2009 I payed 250 reais for Help girls mostly TLN as opposed to 220 reais at 4x4 for 40 minutes in a cabin. For me Help represented more value and bang for the buck.
But I get your point, for sure girls in Help were asking 500 reais but only fools paid that, it's like paying sticker price on a brand new car. I would like to see them ask for 500 reais standing on the street in front of Balcony bar.[/QUOTE]
So, may be I am confused! I dont see any posts actually reporting lower prices.
What are the rates now for TLN?
More importantly, where do you go to find TLN these days?
Hi all,
Can anyone experienced let me know what is the go with Easter in Rio? Public holidays? Termas shut downs? Cluns? etc
Any relevant info will be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
I tried a search, couldn't find, but I thought this was posted before....so if anyone could point me to the post or give directions, much appreciated.
By using the metro and then bus, how would I go from Copa to Corcovado? I use the metro to go to centro, so that part is familiar. Which stop, which bus, etc.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Delecti]I tried a search, couldn't find, but I thought this was posted before....so if anyone could point me to the post or give directions, much appreciated.
By using the metro and then bus, how would I go from Copa to Corcovado? I use the metro to go to centro, so that part is familiar. Which stop, which bus, etc.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
To get to Corcovado, do not go all the way to Centro. Take the Metro from Copa and get off at Largo do Machado. Then from there take the Metro Bus 584 outside the Metro station to Cosme Velho. At Cosmo Velho there is a single track railway that goes up through the forest to the christ statue.
I know that today is a religious holiday in Rio de Janeiro. More important, does that mean 4x4 is closed today! Appreciate an answer if anyone local knows.
[QUOTE=Jake993]V1,
Following supply and demand theory, one could argue that with the closing of HELP, you have effectively removed a large part of the supply (ie large numbers of GDP 'available' for sessions) and that the price should have gone up. But you report that just the opposite is true and that while the girls are trying to stage a replacement venue by moving to Balcony the price just cannot stay up. Not being there to witness the phenomenon first hand, I have to ask myself "why"?
Regardless of the local market, you would have to believe that if guys had migrated to Balcony in sufficient numbers, then the girls would be back in business with no lack of customers and therefore the price would stay the same. I can't believe that ALL the girls have migrated to Balcony 'en masse' have they? Is it REALLY a case of too many girls chasing too few customers? Has the closing of HELP really chased away the customers?
Could it be that the prices were being supported by the "HELP factor" that provided a venue for newbies and 'smart guys' to come and inflate the price? Could it be THAT simple?
Curious minds want to know!!!!
Anyone? Anyone? Are there any budding economists out there who care to explain the phenomenon?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not so sure, yet, that prices really have dropped. The way that Help was structured, it supported a TLN style of program. Prices outside Help at TA for hour-long affairs were always much less. Balcony just doesn't have enough space for people to mingle, dance, seduce. It seems as if what's happening is that the TLN modality took a hit, but that the per hour program has become reinforced and is staying steady at about 100-150r. That was the price I was being quoted months ago in Balcony, though sometimes it would drop to 80r in the low season. And "hour" here is flexible, but then again it always was.
It looks like the women are thus going for shorter programs at lower prices.
Also remember that foreign tourism in general is down in Rio due to the on-going crisis. Things were already bad during last year's high season and they haven't improved much.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]To get to Corcovado, do not go all the way to Centro. Take the Metro from Copa and get off at Largo do Machado. Then from there take the Metro Bus 584 outside the Metro station to Cosme Velho. At Cosmo Velho there is a single track railway that goes up through the forest to the christ statue.[/QUOTE]
You can also stand on N.S.Copacabana and get on the bus when you see it rolling down the street in your direction.
Saint Sebastian exactly, he was a catholic saint, they told me, that's why all the termas are closed, even the ones in copa, I guess if the escorts works or not...
afaiaa it is Tom Jobim day today - ie Bossa Nova day. But yes, most termas may be closed as well as many other things. btw the new Bossa Nova Beatles album is pretty good. ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Saint Sebastian exactly, he was a catholic saint, they told me, that's why all the termas are closed, even the ones in copa, I guess if the escorts works or not...[/QUOTE]
It is the birthday of Rio de Janeiro. It was discovered on St Sebastians day and christened..."The City of St. Sebastian on the River of January" Only a holiday in the city of Rio, nowhere else.
[QUOTE=Beach Star]It is the birthday of Rio de Janeiro. It was discovered on St Sebastians day and christened..."The City of St. Sebastian on the River of January" Only a holiday in the city of Rio, nowhere else.[/QUOTE]
Humm, sorry to quibble, but Rio's birthday is on March 1st - "Aniversario da Cidade" day. This year will be 445°.
There's usually lots of festivities all around town that day, notably a huge free concert (with most major Bossa Nova artists) on a beach. Was Botafogo last year.
A fairly happening event, much less commercialized and much cooler than Carnaval IMO.
Are the termas going to be open on March 19, St. Joseph's Day?
Since the demise of Help all the lazy GDP's have lost their guppy fishbowl. All the, as I call them, "smart folk", pretty much have been removed from the P4P scene for now. The experienced monger is what left now, so many of the GDP's know that their prices must match what the going rate for the locales they hang out dictates. This is something I just don't play or contemplate.
What am I talking about you may ask? It is the old "Charge where they GDP hangs out theory". If a GDP walks the street, she charges a certain rate. I she is in a disco (I.E. The big Sao Paolo discos, Cafe Photo, Bomboa, Love Story, etc. In other countries it also applies when the GDP is independent.), they want to charge you another rate, and so on. I compare the whole scene just like when you are about to buy a car. Would you pay big bucks for a Ford Fiesta because it is in a Mercedez Benz car lot? Heck no! On the other hand you can find that diamond in the rough in a not so nice place. That is what I crave and value, the bargain.
I don't particularly care where she hangs out that determines how much she is allowed to charge me. It boils down, for me, on her looks, personality, how we get along, what she will do and our chemistry. If all those things align, then we discuss a reasonable rate if that's what I wish to do. That is the girl that comes to my hotel room. Otherwise, it the Termas, massage parlors, clinicas, boites and prives with the set rates. There you can find also willing GDP's who will knock your socks off when you invite them to your apartment or hotel room.
[QUOTE=John Cricket]Well, I'm not so sure, yet, that prices really have dropped. The way that Help was structured, it supported a TLN style of program. Prices outside Help at TA for hour-long affairs were always much less. Balcony just doesn't have enough space for people to mingle, dance, seduce. It seems as if what's happening is that the TLN modality took a hit, but that the per hour program has become reinforced and is staying steady at about 100-150r. That was the price I was being quoted months ago in Balcony, though sometimes it would drop to 80r in the low season. And "hour" here is flexible, but then again it always was.
It looks like the women are thus going for shorter programs at lower prices.
Also remember that foreign tourism in general is down in Rio due to the on-going crisis. Things were already bad during last year's high season and they haven't improved much.[/QUOTE]
Would it be out of order to suggest that anyone using the Forum to get information for their own websites, tour guides, books, booklets, actually say so upfront?
I think there would be a percentage of members quite happy to help. It is the ´doing it quietly,´ and the increasing numbers of people using ISG for such things, that can be annoying.
Obrigado.
Has anyone taken one out of Rio? What was your experience?
Many people in Rio now are just passing through. I was told that two - three cruises a day, everyday, leave from Rio.
I'd be interested in hearing if TLN prices out of Balcony are lower than what they were at Help. They don't seem that way to me, but it could just be my experience.
Met this little cute one inside Help some years back, she is the last one on the line. She told me she also worked at 4x4 and there were 70 girls there, I went the next day, it was my first time there.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIcnSrotvPs[/url]
With all it's warts you have to admit this was some freak show and I'm going to miss it.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAT8VXiB_GA[/url]
The first one with the bandanna on her head hiding her eyes told me she was roughed up by a German last night so please be gentle. The second one Natasha, she is with the girl in red, she was hot stuff but she looks like a lesbo now. Still remember these nights and these videos were shot quite some time ago.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42PoIXJ_WmU[/url]
She can spank this bad boy with that wip any time cause I be bad:
More from TA
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlVRUinx-k[/url]
Ok, this should be it for now, this should take care of you TA junkies in withdrawl, next inside Help.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg22OfaXbCA[/url]
Sangue Bon
Thanks for the memories.
I am going to cry now.
R4M4E
"Have you ever been arrested or convicted for any offense or crime, even though subject of a pardon, amnesty or other similar legal action? Have you ever unlawfully distributed or sold a controlled substance(drug), or been a prostitute or procurer for prostitutes?"
It applies to the past 10 years.
So I guess at the interview the person will try to determine if they look like a pro
ta in its hey day
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPh8rWgcfv4[/url]
[quote=john cricket]i'd be interested in hearing if tln prices out of balcony are lower than what they were at help. they don't seem that way to me, but it could just be my experience.[/quote]
depends how much you piad at helpee doesn´t it. i heard it was getting expensive towards the end. you shouldn´t really pay more than about 150r for a short time (one to two hours) from balcony, maybe upping it to 200 or (max) 300 for tln if you are earlyish. after all, tln at 11pm is a different deal to one at 3am.
some girls ´do the walk´and some don´t, the walk usually being to prado via ns (either cos it´s safer or has more potential clients than via atlantica) so missing out alexandra. at prado, the better ones go to ciccolinas as far as i can tell, and the cheapskates have a beer on hta prado.
talking of walks, i´ve tracked a few girls doing the barbarella´s walk - from barbs to cicciolinas. there is a huge difference in ciccy´s and it´s hard to tell a girl under the lights. i like to see them outside. when they go for a cigarette. or on the way to the ciccy toilet there are normal lights. from ciccy´s, some go to formalha´s for a sobremesa (on viv.min.d.castro opposite pao de acucar). no-one ever admits to going to nog. (but going in to use the toilet, or up to the bar to adjust one´s hair, checking out clients on the way, apparently doesn´t count.)
i´m not a fan of balcony or the boites, but i have taken one or two. for cicciolina´s, go for 200r. i couldn´t get it lower than this. on the first occasional i took the girl (tln) but on the second occasion, although she was well-stacked (ex-barb, ex-ciccy´s), i realised after i had got her down to 200r that i didn´t really want her and made an excuse. (too much sex-by-numbers for my taste generally). bear in mind they will start *much* higher.
for anyone finding the other type of predator (mozzies) are out in force with the ups and downs of the weather, remember to stock up on some non-drowsy anti-histamines to stop itching. if you ask for a brand from back home, or do not specify generico, you will probably pay a lot. loratidine is suitable. a local packet under the name loratyn-10 will cost small change.
Thanks for these clips. What year were these taken?
When I was there in May last year, this is what I was expecting
to see. Very busy, girls in costumes/bikinis and massive queues to get
into help. But sadly its seems, I was many years too late..lol.
Thanks again
Nice vids Sangue Bon.
I'd like to see what its like at Balcony right now. Anyone on the ground care to share some pics or vids?
It was posted today on another board that Ciccolina had closed. Also Franks is closed. Can anyone confirm??
This is probably old info in this forum, but it was handy for me on my virgin trip to Brazil, especially SP, and I haven’t seen the info here (probably missed it)
Researching for my next trip and from what I can see it’s even more on the SP map now than before.
Sorry to hear about Help, I hope some other place takes over before I go next time.
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/rj.kmz[/url]
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz[/url]
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Thanks for these clips. What year were these taken?
When I was there in May last year, this is what I was expecting
to see. Very busy, girls in costumes/bikinis and massive queues to get
into help. But sadly its seems, I was many years too late..lol.
Thanks again[/QUOTE]
You wern't many years too late just a couple of months. This level of activity took place during Carnaval time.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]The first one with the bandanna on her head hiding her eyes told me she was roughed up by a German last night so please be gentle. The second one Natasha, she is with the girl in red, she was hot stuff but she looks like a lesbo now. Still remember these nights and these videos were shot quite some time ago.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42PoIXJ_WmU[/url][/QUOTE]When did you last see Natasha?? I haven't seen her for 3 years or so but just found out about 2 months ago she has a baby boy now. Made plans to see her the last time I was in Italy(about 2 weeks ago) but it didn't work out.
Guys, I am seriously thinking it could be my last time in Rio, at least until next year, so I am looking for Colombia or Venezuela.
Surely I will read the specific threads but just to answer to some questions, who between you, more experienced mongers here, have been to these 2 countries, so he can answer me by PM ?
Much appreciated
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Guys, I am seriously thinking it could be my last time in Rio, at least until next year, so I am looking for Colombia or Venezuela.[/QUOTE]
My personal pick would be Caracas. Very few gringo mongers, super hot chicks (at least in the cosmopolitan bowels), great sophisticated nightlife.
Plus black market dollar at 6300 bolivares, Euro should be almost 10 000, you will have a blast.
Phnom Penh might be closer for you (?)
[QUOTE=Riofan6]When did you last see Natasha?? I haven't seen her for 3 years or so but just found out about 2 months ago she has a baby boy now. Made plans to see her the last time I was in Italy(about 2 weeks ago) but it didn't work out.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting if you really know her but about 9 years ago.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Very interesting if you really know her but about 9 years ago.[/QUOTE]When she left for Italy. I have been in touch with her off and on since then but only through emails, phone calls and text messages. And she WAS a little hottie. Hard to imagine her as looking like a lesbo now days.
[QUOTE=Prosal]My personal pick would be Caracas. Very few gringo mongers, super hot chicks, great sophisticated nightlife.
Plus black market dollar at 6300 bolivares, Euro should be almost 10 000, you will have a blast.[/QUOTE]how is safety wise?
Boites quality similiar to Brasil?
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Met this little cute one inside Help some years back, she is the last one on the line. She told me she also worked at 4x4 and there were 70 girls there, I went the next day, it was my first time there.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIcnSrotvPs[/url][/QUOTE]You remember her name?
We may have more then one mutual friend.
Lil Jon makes a song with Rio's top Funk artist
He plans to go on tour in Brasil early this year and release his album soon after.
The song is called Machuka
Here is the promo Video
[url]http://vimeo.com/7799946[/url]
[QUOTE=Riofan6]When she left for Italy. I have been in touch with her off and on since then but only through emails, phone calls and text messages. And she WAS a little hottie. Hard to imagine her as looking like a lesbo now days.[/QUOTE]
I think that came out wrong what I said. These videos were stored away for some time, I dug them out last week, they are VHS, I converted to digital and reviewed and edited them. When I saw her walking with her chest up high and out with her grabbing that other girls hand and having her in tow she reminded me of a lesbo in the video not now and my experience is that many of these girls go Bi. I haven't seen her in 9 years so I don't know what she looks like now.
[QUOTE=Riofan6]You remember her name?
We may have more then one mutual friend.[/QUOTE]
No I don't remember her name and I only saw her once. The only reason why I remembered Natasha's name is because I remember telling her that she had a strange name for a Brazilian, that I thought her name was more Russian like.
But this girl last in line was very special and she told me she worked at 4x4 that day as her day job. She was young then, probably too old for me now.
[QUOTE=Prosal]I don't know if most of you are aware that 99% of the wores in Brasil use a fake name. And usually really stupid ones (like Natasha!!) , based on the perception of the status that gives an international name.
That's totally silly, but remember that those girls are South American versions of 5th generation welfare-taking Northern Kentucky hilljacks trailer trash.[/QUOTE]Her real name is very Brasilian and she was a very sweet girl. I remember watching her for months in HELP and finally going with her. She turned out to be nothing like she appeared to be in the HELP public environment.
And if you're going to sling stereotypical slurs, why not be fair and balanced and mention the Southside Atlanta welfare-taking brood sows.
In all sort of colors, shapes and sizes and now they can't cum no more:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQW3s3Ieucc[/url]
I had to edit the topless out, I hope I got it all cause UTUBE will delete it.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdb0gmGPVk[/url]
Sangue Bon, where have you been my whole life?! ahhahahah!! Great drop dude, these videos are awesome, much appreciated!!
[QUOTE=Bravo]Sangue Bon, where have you been my whole life?! ahhahahah!! Great drop dude, these videos are awesome, much appreciated!![/QUOTE]
Hey it's never too late. LOL
Enjoy it, this one I think also worked in Espana, went with her a couple of nights, they cleared the way when she walked down the street
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bH6qmxcCSQ[/url]
These Help videos are from Carnaval 1997 so judge for yourself if things were better than even though it's a moot point now:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE_NkouGlY[/url]
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]These Help videos are from Carnaval 1997 so judge for yourself if things were better than even though it's a moot point now:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE_NkouGlY[/url][/QUOTE]
I forgot that the furniture in Help used to be black and white!!! These are awesome videos, almost surprised some of those girls are nto still working! LOL
Can you tell us how you transfered video from a VHS tape to your computer? Do you have a video capture card? How did you do it because I have some old video I would like to upload too.
Blink and I would've missed this opportunity. I met a 24y/o stripper. She doesn't know that I know she dabbles in the erotica, since we met through my job. She's a 9 and into me, but there's no place like home, Rio. While she's into me, especially since I'm not suppose to know her secret, I won't hold my breatj. My only love is the one I can meet in Rio, shaking what her momma gave her.
Ryjer
[QUOTE=Bravo]I forgot that the furniture in Help used to be black and white!!! These are awesome videos, almost surprised some of those girls are nto still working! LOL
Can you tell us how you transfered video from a VHS tape to your computer? Do you have a video capture card? How did you do it because I have some old video I would like to upload too.[/QUOTE]
They sell machines that you slip in your VHS and copy to DVD, then copy the DVD onto your computer using a video editing software like Pinnacle 14.
Or buy a gadget like this [url]http://www.vhs2dvdwizard.com/convert_vhs_video_tapes_to_dvd.html?tid=ADW35Vhs%20Protected[/url]
This gadget you hook your VCR straight into your computer as long as your operating system is 32 bit, this gadget will copy from your VCR to your computer to MPEG format then you can edit in Pinnacle 14 studio software to make a smaller version of an mpeg and upload to YouTube.
My computer is 64 bit Windows 7 so I had to use an older one I have running Vista and copy the Mpeg to an external hard drive and read into my windows 7 computer because working with video you need a fast CPU especially HD which of course these videos are not.
Also 1 other thing, depending on how many VHS you have to convert to digital, if you only have a few then you might not want to go through the expense of getting a machine to copy VHS to DVD or mess with the headaches of getting the above gadget to work. There are plenty of guys on the internet who will copy a 2 hour VHS tape to DVD for $20 each. Then you can read this DVD or copy it to your computer hard disk. But if you want to put it on YouTube you will have to edit it using some type of edit software, like I said I use Pinnacle studio V 14 but I'm sure there are many others you can use. Pinnacle also has a device called Dazzle that will copy from your VCR to computer, you may want to look at that too.
The cheapest flight I can find at the minute from London Heathrow - GIG is
with TAM airlines at £483. Just looking for some feedback on this airline? Do they have TV's in the head rests, cabin crew, food etc.
It also says there is 1 stop aswell, but doesn't say where? Has anyone flown this route using this airline?
Last year I used Air France and was quite happy, but I can't get the flight times and price I want with them at the min. I've got 2 1/2 months yet so somthing may turn up.
Thanks for your help
[QUOTE=Koolkid]The cheapest flight I can find at the minute from London Heathrow - GIG is
with TAM airlines at £483. Just looking for some feedback on this airline? Do they have TV's in the head rests, cabin crew, food etc.
It also says there is 1 stop aswell, but doesn't say where? Has anyone flown this route using this airline?
Last year I used Air France and was quite happy, but I can't get the flight times and price I want with them at the min. I've got 2 1/2 months yet so somthing may turn up.
Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]I've flown this route many times over the last year and you are right Air france is my favourite. Tam have some nice new planes, but I've also flown direct on an old 747 with no tv and very few working toilets. Probably my worst flight ever! My freind flies with them and swears by them, they are his preferred choice. From memory the stop off is in Madrid which is dead after 10pm so beware GL
I used TAM on my last three trips and did not have any problems. They have TVs in the headrest but there are the newer kind and older kind. The older kind does not let you decide when you want to start to watch a movie, just like in the real movies. The newer kind lets you start running a movie or TV show whenever you want. I had the old kind on my way to Rio two weeks ago and had the new kind on the way back. The food is pretty good as far as airline food goes and crew is friendly. I have not flown the London route, I fly their direct route from NYC to Rio. The one stop before Rio is most likely Sao Paulo.
Here are some answers.
TAM is, obviously IMHO, best Brazilian airline.
I don't know if the do have individual TVs (only took domestic flights) but for sure they do have crew and food.
Stop is in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]The cheapest flight I can find at the minute from London Heathrow - GIG is
with TAM airlines at £483. Just looking for some feedback on this airline? Do they have TV's in the head rests, cabin crew, food etc.
It also says there is 1 stop aswell, but doesn't say where? Has anyone flown this route using this airline?
Last year I used Air France and was quite happy, but I can't get the flight times and price I want with them at the min. I've got 2 1/2 months yet so somthing may turn up.
Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]
I concur with AP. TAM has a modern fleet with clean planes. It has been several years, and I do not remember if headrest monitors were present. Please note that all of my flights were domestic, only a few hours FT.
Mongers-
TAM has individual on demand IFE systems at every seat on their Airbus 330 and Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. They fly these aircraft on all their long-haul routes except the MIA-GIG route which is flown on an older 767 which has no individual IFE system. The service on TAM is considerably friendlier and better than any US-based airline, with better food and free alcohol.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
TAM has individual on demand IFE systems at every seat on their Airbus 330 and Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. They fly these aircraft on all their long-haul routes except the MIA-GIG route which is flown on an older 767 which has no individual IFE system. The service on TAM is considerably friendlier and better than any US-based airline, with better food and free alcohol.
Sorte,
Rock Harders[/QUOTE]
And the Aeromoças are cute in those tight white tops!
TAM are ok, both long haul and domestic. I´ve just flown GIG-Belem a couple of days ago and got a cheaper rate than GOL (which is far inferior).
TAM from London are ok, although I´d rate Air France slightly better. British Airways is better than both of them and flies direct, rather than having to change planes, lose luggage etc, in France or Portugal. But it costs more. I avoid the US airlines at all cost.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]The cheapest flight I can find at the minute from London Heathrow - GIG is
with TAM airlines at £483. Just looking for some feedback on this airline? Do they have TV's in the head rests, cabin crew, food etc.
It also says there is 1 stop aswell, but doesn't say where? Has anyone flown this route using this airline?
Last year I used Air France and was quite happy, but I can't get the flight times and price I want with them at the min. I've got 2 1/2 months yet so somthing may turn up.
Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]
TAM from London are ok, although I´d rate Air France slightly better. British Airways is better than both of them and flies direct, rather than having to change planes, lose luggage etc, in France or Portugal. But it costs more. I avoid the US airlines at all cost.[/QUOTE]
BA is having great sales from time to time. I booked return Athens-Rio-Athens, an over 3 months stay, for only 525 euros. But it was booked well in advance.
At the time I booked for Rio, a flight to Sao Paolo, same dates, was about 1.300 euros.
Sign up with them to send you their sales info.
During a 18 month period in 2005-06, I flew TAM MIA to Sao Paulo at least 15 times. From S.P. I flew TAM domestic. I've had excellent experiences with them. They offer a generous frequent flyer program also. Two MIA-S.P. flights were free because of accumulated miles and one flight I was upgraded to 1st. class, no charge. I also got a domestic free flight from the program. Their aircraft on the MIA route are Airbuses. New, comfortable flights.
TAM always departed on time from MIA. To MIA I encountered some delays because of security and wait for other passengers on connecting flights in- cluding myself coming from another city 250 miles west of S.P.
One round trip flight was with American on an older, less comfortable Boeing aircraft. I felt more secure on the Airbus.
I've also flown between MIA and/or N.Y. and European cities probably 50 times during a 35 year period mostly on BA, Air France and Lufthansa. Lufthansa imo is best followed by BA. I've flown also TWA and SAS on these routes in the early days. Air France has a terminal transfer that can take almost 30 minutes because of the distance involved. Lufhansa only 10 minutes.
It all depends on which airline has the best offers. Unfortunately, airfares have increased 50% since my last trip in 2006 to Brazil.
I was going to put his in the Belem thread. But I thought it might be more helpful in the general sense for people in Rio or elsewhere, especially people on their first few visits.
The first story is about getting a discount when it seems impossible.
In Rio, as you know, most pharmacies give you a discount automatically. If you look at the screen, it shows the price before and after discount. I went to the main pharmacy chain here in Belem and got a different story. The discount price - as I could see on the screen - was for holders of a loyalty card. The card had to be scanned at the check out till. Which I observed. After getting this a couple of times I asked myself what I might be doing wrong. I wasn´t going to get a loyalty card for a short stay.
First. I went into another one but caught the (female) chemist´s eye first, holding eye contact. People here make and hold eye contact far more than in the west. In the street, in shops, everywhere. You should be able to get an idea of where of person is coming from. Whether you are on the same wavelength. Maybe even if they would like to make love to you. This doesn´t apply nearly so much in Copa, simply cos everyone is putting on a front or feeling the pressure or whatever. And in Centro it´s a bit less common perhaps I think cos everyone is so ´busy´ - like in the west. But walk around a normal area like Tijuca or Largo do Machado and you can practice all day. Start a conversation with the eyes. Something fun and non-threatening.
Next. When it comes to my turn in the queue. Have you ever heard the female voice that does the regular flight announcements at GIG? It is frickin sexy. How could anyone get annoyed with it? Imagine a male version of it. Yeah right. As she´s explaining the discount card system to me, I am wooing her with my voice, keeping the eye contact as much as possible (ie a fraction longer than seems required, each time). I´m making love to her with my gentle, nasal tones and looking at her from under my eyelids like I´ve just noticed she´s way cool. (Check out the classic stars for this -I wish I could do it as well as James Dean for instance).
And guess what. She uses [i]her[/i] card at the check out so I get the discounts. Which was exceptionally useful as I knew I didn´t have enough cash on me otherwise!
For people that come to Belem, I think this is probably second nature and way too much detail. But it doesn´t hurt to use it elsewhere.
The second story is just about macho bullsh*t body language. I´ve seen many gringos get into a ´conversation´ and promptly talk themselves out of a deal. Words are an extension of body language. Unless you are discussing nuclear physics lol.
Boulevard is a dump that charges an ´entrance´ fee when it has a mind to. And occasionally at other times too. Maybe there is some sort of rota of days and times and prices. Maybe they just think of a number between one and five. I used to ask. Dummy. It´s easier to walk like I grew up here, attempt to walk past (in a nice relaxed way, as if I own the joint and am just pretending to be ordinary). And if I get stopped firmly by the brick sh*thouses that pass for security, I carry on ignoring them but fling a 2R note disdainfully at the little guy on the till.
I don´t actually think they totally think I´m Brasilian. Just that I play the game. The Brasilian way. And why not. I´m a guest. I just prefer to be treated as a proper one, rather than a jerk with cash.
Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Rio or any of the other monger locations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris
How is TAM Airlines?
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]How is TAM Airlines?[/QUOTE]
I flyed with Tam this time, million times better than Iberia but not so good as British. For me it is good.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]How is TAM Airlines?[/QUOTE]
I am a TAM Senator (fidelidade vermelho), as previously said not as good as Lufthansa or British but thousand times better than Iberia, Alitalia and all the US airlines.
BB5
As far as Brazilian restaurants, I agree; they are great. However, their airline industry is inflexible and absurd. Let me explain.
Most international travelers are allowed 2 bags that weigh about 50 lbs (23 Kg) apiece, right? However, Brazilian law limits passengers to 2 bags weighing 50lbs total between the two. I have had the same problem with their rules every time because it is not built for foreigners. Brazilian law prohibits international carriers from selling point to point travel between Brazilian cities so if you are traveling within their country, you better pack light or be willing to spend extra on “Excess Baggage Fees”. They better get this fixed before the World Cup and the Olympics or they would never hear the end of it.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Both of these statements are patently absurd. There are many fine Brazilian restaurants, and I have received excellent service on Brazilian airlines.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]...However, Brazilian law limits passengers to 2 bags weighing 50lbs total between the two....[/QUOTE]
Well, I went back with two suitcases, one 14 kg and second 18 kg plus hand luggage 6 kg. I was told when I bought the ticket of TAM I could till 40 kg in 2 suitcases. (20+20kg).
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Well, I went back with two suitcases, one 14 kg and second 18 kg plus hand luggage 6 kg. I was told when I bought the ticket of TAM I could till 40 kg in 2 suitcases. (20+20kg).[/QUOTE]
The knowledge I have so far is that tickets issued in Europe bound to Brasil are entitled to 2 bags of 23kg (50lbs) each. Tickets issued in Brasil bound to Europe are entitled for 2 bags of 32kgs each. Don't know if that has changed very recently.
However you got me worried and checked my ticket with British. It states CLEARLY 2 bags of 23kg each both ways. In excess of 23kgs and up to 32max a penalty of 25 British pounds has to be paid.
I am talking about schedule carriers not charter ones.
My 2 kilos LOL
[QUOTE=Bobo5]I am a TAM Senator (fidelidade vermelho), as previously said not as good as Lufthansa or British but thousand times better than Iberia, Alitalia and all the US airlines.
BB5[/QUOTE]
As noted below for 1½ years and over 15 trips between US east coast and SP, TAM is excellent. I received with the fidelidade vermelho frequent flyer card fastest check in. One trip I was upgraded to first class, no add'l charge. I prefer Lufthansa between US and Europe. Good departure, arrival and connections to other Euro cities.
I was always alloted 2 suitcases, total about 40 kg. You have to check with your carrier before departing since they are looking for extra income concerning baggage. It's a good idea. I've seen 3-5 large suitcases with some travelers. Brazilians are stocking up when visiting the USA with the strength of the Real and US low prices on electronics, etc. I've seen flat screen tvs as checked baggaged going to SP.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]As far as Brazilian restaurants, I agree; they are great. However, their airline industry is inflexible and absurd. Let me explain.
Most international travelers are allowed 2 bags that weigh about 50 lbs (23 Kg) apiece, right? However, Brazilian law limits passengers to 2 bags weighing 50lbs total between the two. I have had the same problem with their rules every time because it is not built for foreigners. Brazilian law prohibits international carriers from selling point to point travel between Brazilian cities so if you are traveling within their country, you better pack light or be willing to spend extra on “Excess Baggage Fees”. They better get this fixed before the World Cup and the Olympics or they would never hear the end of it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Well, I went back with two suitcases, one 14 kg and second 18 kg plus hand luggage 6 kg. I was told when I bought the ticket of TAM I could till 40 kg in 2 suitcases. (20+20kg).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=El Greco]The knowledge I have so far is that tickets issued in Europe bound to Brasil are entitled to 2 bags of 23kg (50lbs) each. Tickets issued in Brasil bound to Europe are entitled for 2 bags of 32kgs each. Don't know if that has changed very recently.
However you got me worried and checked my ticket with British. It states CLEARLY 2 bags of 23kg each both ways. In excess of 23kgs and up to 32max a penalty of 25 British pounds has to be paid.
I am talking about schedule carriers not charter ones.
My 2 kilos LOL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nyc Expat]I was always alloted 2 suitcases, total about 40 kg. You have to check with your carrier before departing since they are looking for extra income concerning baggage. It's a good idea. I've seen 3-5 large suitcases with some travelers. Brazilians are stocking up when visiting the USA with the strength of the Real and US low prices on electronics, etc. I've seen flat screen tvs as checked baggaged going to SP.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen:
You can get past all these worries very simply: don't check bags at all! I have not checked a bag in years. If I can't get something into a carry on bag, I just don't take it. Why? There are few things in life I hate more than waiting for bags at a luggage carousel; my vision of hell would be having to do this for all eternity. A second reason is that, back when I did check bags, I brought a lot of junk that I didn't need. So bringing just a carry on makes for much greater peace of mind, and you get out of the airport much faster. Trust me, I have gone on trips lasting several weeks with just what was in a carry on. Moreover, there is no possibility of your bag getting lost or misplaced.
Here's how I do it (I'm not necessarily recommending that you do it this way; I'm just telling you what works for me). I bring the following: one extra pair of pants; four shirts; five underpants, five pair of socks, five handkerchiefs. I wear the underwear and socks for two days; this gives you ten days wear before you have to launder them, which is long enough for most trips. If I have to wash anything, I bring some Woolite with me and wash it in the sink. I also bring other essentials such as toiletries, travel alarm, medicine I might need, and instead of bringing books I use a Kindle I got from Amazon.
Are there drawbacks to using just a carry on? Sure. One is that your liquid and gel cosmetics are limited to 3.4 oz. sizes, but if you run out you can always replenish something locally. I also can't bring my Swiss Army Knife, which I have always found an especially useful implement, especially since it has a scissors inside. But the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
If you are now checking two bags and decide to make this change, it won't be easy. Overpacking is like an addiction, and like any other addiction it's hard to kick and will involve painful withdrawal symptoms. But if you can exercise the discipline to do it, you will find that you didn't need most of the junk you brought with you before.
Just my two cents worth.
Lorenzo
After more than 14 years of solid mongering experience in the US and Mexico, I am finally going to come to Rio De Janerio this November. I have been lurking around since when Jackson took over this forum. It is unfortunate that now that I am getting the chance to visit Brazil in November that "Help" is no more. That is where I have been hoping that I would be able to pull out a hotie or two who would not only give me the made-in-Brazil bang of my life but also stay with me for at least a week to show me around the city at for my hands on learning experience so that next time when I come, I would be be completely independent. I guess 4X4 is where the action would be for me based on the popular consensus from members of this forum about the terma. My question is, is it really safe to rent an apartment to stay for a week where I hope I would be able to bring in GPD for my purpose as stated above, or for a Portugal zero speaking guy, and hearing impaired for that matter (well I have been scoring heavily in the USA with over 300 girls under my belt and also in Tijuana in spite of the communication obstacle and without necessarily over paying for the service), would a hotel be more secure for me? My concern is that once you rent an apartment, the renter might have a spare key to the room and can attack or rob you baring all precaution and courtsey you exercised.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Gentlemen:
You can get past all these worries very simply: don't check bags at all!
Here's how I do it (I'm not necessarily recommending that you do it this way; I'm just telling you what works for me). I bring the following: one extra pair of pants; four shirts; five underpants, five pair of socks, five handkerchiefs. I wear the underwear and socks for two days; this gives you ten days wear before you have to launder them, which is long enough for most trips. If I have to wash anything, I bring some Woolite with me and wash it in the sink. I also bring other essentials such as toiletries, travel alarm, medicine I might need, and instead of bringing books I use a Kindle I got from Amazon.
Overpacking is like an addiction, and like any other addiction it's hard to kick and will involve painful withdrawal symptoms. But if you can exercise the discipline to do it, you will find that you didn't need most of the junk you brought with you before.
Just my two cents worth.
Lorenzo[/QUOTE]
Absolutely! For a round the world trip, my rucksack compresses to carry-on- It expands if I want to bring back artefacts.
Nice touch with handkercheifs. I usually use locally bought dishwashing liquid or shampoo to wash them. I don´t use kindle but books are a must for me. This year I have used stanza which I put on an iphone for a few books (together with large dictionaries for different languages, offline maps, dance routines and a diary.) The only ´must have´ which I omitted this year was Guia Ruas, which I found frustrating but it is just too heavy. (I borrowed Riotur´s or looked up obscure streets in a bookshop).
ps if you haven´t seen it yet, check out ´Up in the Air´ (or, Amor sem escalas as it is called here) for some hard talk ion light packing!
[QUOTE=El Greco]The knowledge I have so far is that tickets issued in Europe bound to Brasil are entitled to 2 bags of 23kg (50lbs) each. Tickets issued in Brasil bound to Europe are entitled for 2 bags of 32kgs each. Don't know if that has changed very recently.
However you got me worried and checked my ticket with British. It states CLEARLY 2 bags of 23kg each both ways. In excess of 23kgs and up to 32max a penalty of 25 British pounds has to be paid.
I am talking about schedule carriers not charter ones.
My 2 kilos LOL[/QUOTE]
Airlines belonging to One World (British Airways, Cathay Pacific, JAL, Iberia, etc) have agreed the weight allowance for Economy is 23kg max (1 or 2pcs, total weight).
Airlines belonging ot other Alliances (such as Star Alliance, taht means Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, United, soon TAM, to name a few) still keep the baggage allowance on 20kg total.
I can't report about other alliances as Sky Team, but as far as I recall it is like Star Alliance
When the piece concept applies, it is 2 pcs
Any bag above 23kg will be labelled HEAVY to alert the people handling them.
When they exceed 30 kg each they are not allowed as normal checked baggage but have to be treated as BULK baggage, with proper handling at special counters, trolleys etc.
This is for the Safe & Health of the baggage handling agents.
My extra baggage fuel for the thoughts
[QUOTE=Chris Long]Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Rio or any of the other monger locations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]
Yep. There is a university on Pres. Vargas a few stops before Mimosa. I have spent a little time there.
[QUOTE=Omonochie]After more than 14 years of solid mongering experience in the US and Mexico, I am finally going to come to Rio De Janerio this November. I have been lurking around since when Jackson took over this forum. It is unfortunate that now that I am getting the chance to visit Brazil in November that "Help" is no more. That is where I have been hoping that I would be able to pull out a hotie or two who would not only give me the made-in-Brazil bang of my life but also stay with me for at least a week to show me around the city at for my hands on learning experience so that next time when I come, I would be be completely independent. I guess 4X4 is where the action would be for me based on the popular consensus from members of this forum about the terma. My question is, is it really safe to rent an apartment to stay for a week where I hope I would be able to bring in GPD for my purpose as stated above, or for a Portugal zero speaking guy, and hearing impaired for that matter (well I have been scoring heavily in the USA with over 300 girls under my belt and also in Tijuana in spite of the communication obstacle and without necessarily over paying for the service), would a hotel be more secure for me? My concern is that once you rent an apartment, the renter might have a spare key to the room and can attack or rob you baring all precaution and courtsey you exercised.[/QUOTE]Mate, I am a broken-porto noob having my share of fun in Rio, right now. I rented an apartment after reading the quintessential BwanaDik's guide and Bubba Boy's report. If you tip the doorman/guard at the entrance to the building a couple of times, that should take care of the GDP leaving with your valuables. As for the apartment guy doing it, rent from one of the recommended agencies in the two reports. If you are really worried, lock everything up everytime you leave :) Since you are coming in November, I guess there is plenty of time to read the reports and plan. If it comes to the worst, Ibis hotels seem to be recommended in the forums. Portugues need not be absolutely mandatory but can make things a lot easier. I just got off a 15-min call with a GDP booking her for tonight in my apartment. The questions of when, how long and how much took way too long, I will get back to Pimsleur religiously. As for the termas, if you wear a vague confused expression while smiling and make a writing gesture, the lady will write it out for you. But be careful though, I got hit for a suite while all I wanted was a cabine but the ass was well worth it (4x4) and she's coming home this sunday.
If Balcony is still in operation by November, you can sit and nurse a drink and take your pick (if you can find ones you like). But never ever go to Barbarella's or if you do, dont drink !
And since you are apparently old enough, you wont have my problem of the ladies commenting that I look too young :( I didnt know there was a mongerable age anywhere
Can you give me some more information on this place.
Mimosa I am not familiar with this place.
[QUOTE=Chris Long]Can you give me some more information on this place.
Mimosa I am not familiar with this place.[/QUOTE]
Are you familiar with Rio? I have posted many times on how to get there, and others have also posted useful stuff. Recently I described the nicer ways to get there by bus or metro from near Tijuca. By bus, now it is easy, as there is a bridge lit up in nice colours and you pull the bell cord when you see it and the next stop is about a hundred yards from Mimosa. If you like more upmarket stuff, there are some opportunities in Tijuca. The Uni is also much closer to Centro mongering than say Copacabana.
The Uni - I am only familiar with the medical faculty and University hospital just behind it as this is where I wanted to interview some people for some work I was doing. As you go along Pres Vargas from Centro, you will see it on the left hand side. It is a big building and I think there is a sign saying university. Many students coming back and forth across the bridge. I hope this is enough for you to find it on the internet and get the details you need.
[QUOTE=Chris Long]Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Rio or any of the other monger locations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]You might try Macunaima over on the other monger board. He's supposedly a university professor and probably has the information you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]The Uni - I am only familiar with the medical faculty and University hospital just behind it as this is where I wanted to interview some people for some work I was doing. As you go along Pres Vargas from Centro, you will see it on the left hand side. It is a big building and I think there is a sign saying university. Many students coming back and forth across the bridge. I hope this is enough for you to find it on the internet and get the details you need.[/QUOTE]Also, UERJ is very near there. Right across from Maracanã, in fact.
[QUOTE=John Cricket]You might try Macunaima over on the other monger board. He's supposedly a university professor and probably has the information you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
Jackson, the owner of this board, does not take kindly to those who chose to promote other boards especially since you TWICE now have been given your own thread and still will not take the hint. One thing in your post however is accurate -- the use of the word supposedly when referring to Macunaima as a university professor. I guess someone who delivers content on methods of agrarian fertilization at a college also might call themselves a professor.
If he's got a thread here, you can ask him here. I wasn't aware of the fact that he was on this board.
Also, if I've violated some board rule, I'm sorry. Just trying to help out.
Are you a moderator?
Hello, if you know very fine Soth America can you tell me what town is the best to get a girl friend for one week? No matter the country but the town. A town where is it possible to to mees an beautiful, hot and easy prey. ;)
I wait for some info.
Newbie going to Rio in April although I've mongered quite a bit else where. I normally enjoy a stroll both before and after and was wondering on how safe and far it is to walk from the Sao Cristovao metro station to VM. I've downladed Sperto's excellent maps to the place and it looks pretty easy to find.
Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Jwdub]Newbie going to Rio in April although I've mongered quite a bit else where. I normally enjoy a stroll both before and after and was wondering on how safe and far it is to walk from the Sao Cristovao metro station to VM. I've downladed Sperto's excellent maps to the place and it looks pretty easy to find.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]It's not too bad in the day, provided you keep your wits about you and don't head off on the Quinta da Boa Vista side, which can be dicey at any time of the day.
Do not try it after 5PM.
Since the construction of the metro overpass is complete, the perp walk from Sao Cristovao station to Villa Mimosa is much safer. The sidewalk all the way down is much wider now that it parallels the new rail line. Follow sperto's map but just in case, as you get off the metro station, exit towards the Praca da Bandeiras which parallels the metro. Don't cross the street. Go down the ramp to your left and walk facing the traffic (Traffic should be on your right shoulder) until you reach the entrance of Villa Mimosa on the same side of the street (About a half mile walk). From there it should be easy. Just follow the smell :D
[QUOTE=Jwdub]Newbie going to Rio in April although I've mongered quite a bit else where. I normally enjoy a stroll both before and after and was wondering on how safe and far it is to walk from the Sao Cristovao metro station to VM. I've downladed Sperto's excellent maps to the place and it looks pretty easy to find.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Has anyone ever tried priceline for tickets to brazil by naming your own price? How did it turn out? I mean if you offer say 600 for a 800 usual ticket will they accept.
I have a question for you guys flying to brazil. How long does it take for your body to adjust to Brazil's atmosphere?
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]I have a question for you guys flying to brazil. How long does it take for your body to adjust to Brazil's atmosphere?[/QUOTE]
It's not the moon you are going to. For me it takes about the length of time it takes me to pass by customs. But if you have come from Alaska it might take a bit longer.
If you get in on an early flight I suggest starting to party ASAP get some afternoon delight then go to sleep around 5pm. Get up at 11pm party some more, go to bed 5am get up 11am party to 5pm. Repeat until the end of holiday, feels like you have twice as many days. And you miss the boring bit of the day when everyone is glued to the television watching novelas.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]I have a question for you guys flying to brazil. How long does it take for your body to adjust to Brazil's atmosphere?[/QUOTE]
You didn't mention where you're coming from. If its U.S. east coast on Tam you can fly during the day without suffering. If you're on a 8-14 hour night flight you'll probably have some jetlag which takes no more than a few hours sleep upon arrival to adjust.
I've flown to SP then domestic for 1½ hrs. and I feel fine, especially when I had a GF to pamper me upon arrival. I did that at least 15 times in an 18 mo. period. I've also flown transatlantic at least 50 times. Jetlag is worse on these flights. Two easy days and you're back to normal.
Tell where you're coming from, season and be specific concerning your meaning of atmosphere. Your physical conditon, age and diet has an effect on long flights.