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frankly a separate thread on massage parlours in hcmc is not going to see a lot of traffic.
the typical deal for massage in hcmc is rooms or booths that have windows or openings so that people can peer in. they usually have a locker room where they expect you to change beforehand and put on their baggy shorts. the gals wear a sort of skirt/shorts combination that seriously restricts access. all of this set up is to deliberately reduce the opportunity for extras. most places have sauna and jacuzzi but there is no choice of girls unless you have a name from before.
very rarely have i been offered any extras and that was always no more than a furtive hj. the only place where this was consistently offered is the place on dong do in the lane opposite the club italia (aka sports bar).
basic 30 mins massage is usually about vnd 100,000 and extras (if you can get them) are negotiated from there.
Sudz, I had an excellent massage at the Rex, "Club". Baggy pants and all. I believe the attendant goes through your clothes while you are getting the massage. The elaborate locking procedure is just a farce because they have the master key anyway. BBBJ was on special that night for $50 USD but negotiable. $20USD for HJ. Not rushed and full exploration of top and bottom. Had dinner with the lil Hunnie afterwards but because I was leaving the next morning I didn't pursue anything further. Jacuzzi and suana also.
I agree that Massage is not really much of an attraction in HCMC. And "Bars and Clubs" is a bit too specific, and doesn't include other types of venues and pickup options. Getting Hotels separate is a good thing though.
I actually had a decent massage, with lots of extras including BBBJ, and FS, at the superbowl out by the airport. The Mamasan, although she hates to be called that, speaks great English and will set you up. It has been a while but i believe the total damage was 300K.
Apart from that it is nearly impossible to get anything more than previously described. It used to be easier, 5 or 6 years ago, but I think the Government has been cracking down in an effort to attract tourism.
I am not looking for a decent massage. So where can I go?
Strictly from a massage standpoint the basic babrbershop is a no hanky panky facility. The only good thing is you can have a good massage by a sweet lil 20 something scantily dressed rubbing her nubile body all over you for about 4 or 5 USD for an hour. Good thing is you can sometimes negotiate a later date. Had one of these everday as therapy......most of the hunnies are stunning.
Just a quick report on an MP experience I had a few months back in HCMC.
I walked in to a massage place at Pham Ngu Lao, ordered for a body massage at100k which came with free foot massage. (Note foot massage is done at a separate area from the body massage) Since this was my first experience for this type of establishment, I didn’t know how the system worked. So I just followed whatever told.
After a nice shower/Jacuzzi/steam/sauna/and more shower, which was very clean and nice, I was given shorts to wear. The mama san led me to a small but clean cubicle and told me to wait. I didn’t know what to do in there while waiting for a girl, but the instinct told me to just lie down on the bed facing up, where I noticed the railing fixed on the ceiling. After seemingly a long wait, a petit, a little chubby girl entered. She seemed to have some rudimentary understanding of English. Rapport was established between us by smiles and simple conversations. Having done the normal massage, (I was still face down) she moved onto some suggestive hand movements between my cheeks (read a gentle AR). As she probed her thumb through the crack, I lifted my bum a little to get the full effect of it. Nice. She motioned me to flip over, with which I duly complied.
She works on my toes, pulling, twisting and moving up the legs, the calve, the thighs. As she kneads my thighs, her hands purposely brush my member and balls. I feel it rising with anticipation and the inevitable end.
There, she stops, bringing me back to the reality. She leans over me and asks if I want a massage down there, to which I say "how much". She starts with a ridiculous price like 500K. A 500K for a HJ, no way. I negotiates down to 300K (this is still too high) but I was quite chuffed with the AR technique she demonstrated earlier on. She tries to cheer me up by saying that the next it would be 200K. I feel better.
She starts the gentle up and down movement on the now limp member, but building up by touching balls and AR actions. By now the poor chap is now fully obliged. I extend my right hand to touch her bum and bosom. She let me do that as long as it does not go too deep. I ask if I can see her pussy to which she says no, but lets me touch it over her knickers. I try to move the fabric to one side. But this effort is thwarted by the tight fitting of her knickers. Oh well.
Being conscious of time, I decide to unleash my load. She gently squeezes out the last remaining liquid, cleans me up, and gives me an affectionate hug, signaling this is THE END.
Total damage: 100K body massage + 300K tip. (away too much! )
Remember free foot massage I mentioned in the beginning? My next report will be about that which develops into a rather unexpected event.
[QUOTE=Larry L Lizard]Just a quick report on an MP experience I had a few months back in HCMC.
I walked in to a massage place at Pham Ngu Lao, ordered for a body massage at100k which came with free foot massage. (Note foot massage is done at a separate area from the body massage) Since this was my first experience for this type of establishment, I didn’t know how the system worked. So I just followed whatever told.
After a nice shower/Jacuzzi/steam/sauna/and more shower, which was very clean and nice, I was given shorts to wear. The mama san led me to a small but clean cubicle and told me to wait. I didn’t know what to do in there while waiting for a girl, but the instinct told me to just lie down on the bed facing up, where I noticed the railing fixed on the ceiling. After seemingly a long wait, a petit, a little chubby girl entered. She seemed to have some rudimentary understanding of English. Rapport was established between us by smiles and simple conversations. Having done the normal massage, (I was still face down) she moved onto some suggestive hand movements between my cheeks (read a gentle AR). As she probed her thumb through the crack, I lifted my bum a little to get the full effect of it. Nice. She motioned me to flip over, with which I duly complied.
She works on my toes, pulling, twisting and moving up the legs, the calve, the thighs. As she kneads my thighs, her hands purposely brush my member and balls. I feel it rising with anticipation and the inevitable end.
There, she stops, bringing me back to the reality. She leans over me and asks if I want a massage down there, to which I say "how much". She starts with a ridiculous price like 500K. A 500K for a HJ, no way. I negotiates down to 300K (this is still too high) but I was quite chuffed with the AR technique she demonstrated earlier on. She tries to cheer me up by saying that the next it would be 200K. I feel better.
She starts the gentle up and down movement on the now limp member, but building up by touching balls and AR actions. By now the poor chap is now fully obliged. I extend my right hand to touch her bum and bosom. She let me do that as long as it does not go too deep. I ask if I can see her pussy to which she says no, but lets me touch it over her knickers. I try to move the fabric to one side. But this effort is thwarted by the tight fitting of her knickers. Oh well.
Being conscious of time, I decide to unleash my load. She gently squeezes out the last remaining liquid, cleans me up, and gives me an affectionate hug, signaling this is THE END.
Total damage: 100K body massage + 300K tip. (away too much! )
Remember free foot massage I mentioned in the beginning? My next report will be about that which develops into a rather unexpected event.[/QUOTE]Folks,
Fyi. All massages come with happy ending in vietnam. I have yet to go to one that didn't provide happy ending. All inclusive. Never ask "how much"! That is the us style.
The vietnamese guys I talk to say that "what is a massage without the finish"
When I go to these places, I usually ask for a HJ first, then massage, then another HJ at the end.
Good luck
I usually stay at the Park Hyatt when travelling for business. Their staff are very nice. But very pricey. This time, I was on my own. I can speak vietnamese, not perfect but acceptable.
I have a friend who is running a travel agency and she helps me booking a hotel not far away from Ben Thanh market. Sorry, I can't mention the hotel cos I want to protect their business. Rememeber, we are reading this forum, as well as the cops and local agency.
On the first morning, I went to the Massage salon operating within the hotel. As I had an appointment with my relatives at noon, so I just opted for 1 hour massage. I was escorted to the changing room, and took all my clothes. I was given a boxer short. Then I was guided to a nice room.
The massage session was great. The girl stepped on your back. 15 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. I said yes, she then covered the lower part and did it under-cover.
Cost: 10 USD for 1 hour massage and 200K or 12USD
On the same evening, I went back for 2 hours VIP. I got body massage, foot massage and facial. The whole session was exceptional, except all the girls were working on you so there are no special. Cost 25 USD and 200K or 12 USD tipping the 3 girls.
I came back the following morning, and opted for 1 hour massage. This time, the girl litterally sat on my back, and rub her pussy on leg and thigh.
Then 20 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. She took off my short, didn't bother to cover anything, pour oil on my little brother and worked on it. She let me roaming under her panties, fingering as well.
Cost 10 USD for the massage and 20 USD for tipping.
I'm sure that the girls are ready for take away.
PM me your phone number and I will SMS you the name of the hotel as well as their Web site. No Vietnamese phone number, only overseas phone number. I just want to protect good business from crack down.
By the way, cost of room is 70-80 USD with air con, king size bed, and good wi-fi.
Anyone know exactly where the Superbowl is? What street, or the address?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]Anyone know exactly where the Superbowl is? What street, or the address?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I posted the address in the General Info section.
I'm in Da Lat right now and I was recommended to try Golf3 massage. I'm currently staying at another hotel and what I'm wondering is, do I have to be a patron at their hotel or can I just walk in and ask for a massage at the front desk.
[QUOTE=Trantastic]I'm in Da Lat right now and I was recommended to try Golf3 massage. I'm currently staying at another hotel and what I'm wondering is, do I have to be a patron at their hotel or can I just walk in and ask for a massage at the front desk.[/QUOTE]You do not have to be a patron, just ask at the front desk.
I decided to check out the massage parlor scene and wandered over to the Sachi Spa. It is in an alleyway off of Dong Du. I echo what has been said before, it has no private rooms, what they have are like bathroom stalls almost with partitions that don't go all the way to the floor or ceiling.
The whole experience was awful. The girl gave me shorts to wear and when I said I didn't want to wear them, she did what all Asians seem to do when they don't want a confrontation, just smiled and walked away.
So, I put the shorts on, no big deal. She came back and proceeded to give me a decent massage for about 20 minutes.
Then, she hands me off to another girl. It must be an arrangement where the girl I had didn't do extras, so she passed me along to one that did. Anyway, about two minutes in she starts placing my hand on her tits and asking me if I want extras. She wasn't specific about what, but I was not assuming sex given the room situation.
Contrary to what I had read earlier, she starts asking me how much I will pay. From what I read, a handjob is normally part of the routine and you tip around 200,000. She starts at 800,000 and I had to suppress a laugh. I said I would pay 200,000 and she starts calling me cheap. I am cheap, but more than anything I don't like getting ripped off.
She then comes down to 500,000 and I tell her no, I will just take a massage at this point. Of course, this has now made the mood somewhat hostile since she has called me cheap several times. She continued to give me a crappy massage while trying to convince me to pay her price.
She then pulls down my shorts and comes down to 300,000. I really just wanted to get out of there at that point, but in order to keep the peace I said OK, 300, even though I know I am still overpaying. She then gave me a pretty crappy hand job. I took my wallet with me to take a quick shower and then started to leave.
Something that pissed me off was that on the way out, she brings back the girl that massaged me first so that I could tip her as well. If that girl wasn't getting a piece of the 300,000, she is stupid. Anyway, the whole experience felt dirty from start to finish.
Here's my report on Lido which is the same place that Larry L Lizard went to earlier. The price for entry and a one-hour massage is 100, 000 if you come before noon, I forget how much it is after noon. This comes with a free foot massage although you will be expected to leave a separate tip for it. Obviously, you don't have to take the foot massage if you don't actually want one.
The girl I got was perhaps a 7, slightly chubby for an Asian girl. Nonetheless, she knew what to do to turn negotiation in her favor. So when it came time, she asked, I said yes, and then she asked how much. Of course, her first offer was something like 500, 000, a ridiculous sum to pay for 15 minutes of work in Vietnam. Yet there is probably somebody not knowing any better who will pay that much every once in awhile.
After explaining how often I get massages and how often I usually pay I still was only able to get her down to 160, 000. Afterwords, she complained some and asked for more but in the end she also told me to come back and ask for her by name/number and that she would go for the same price next time.
Total damage here was 260, 000. Let them know you've been here awhile, you'll be here a while, and you know what the local prices are.
Hey guys,
I was introduced to this board by a very distinguished member here. I am relatively new to Vietnam, but have a few experiences.
Does anyone know the address to Vien Dong Massage? I have RTFF and have only read some mention of it, but no real report and location. It is supposed to be popular with the locals. I am white, so would I be accepted?
Would love to report back on my findings. Thanks.
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She then pulls down my shorts and comes down to 300,000. I really just wanted to get out of there at that point, but in order to keep the peace I said OK, 300, even though I know I am still overpaying. She then gave me a pretty crappy hand job. I took my wallet with me to take a quick shower and then started to leave.
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My experience is that when the girl insists too long time for getting high price, she usually also gives a bad handjob! Anyway, there is no contract signed! bad service = bad tip!
I remember once a massage girl got me crazy at Bongsen Hotel. First, she gave me a poor massage. Secondly, she got me nervous insisting on getting a too high price. It was similar as with you. Finally, getting tired I agreed for less than she wanted, but more than what I should pay. Of course, she gave me a quickie without trying in any way to provide a good service. Finally, she left me alone 5mn to answer her mobile phone. I was so upset that I went out of the room by myself while she was phoning. When I went to the counter to pay my massage she was looking what I put in the "tip" line, and I just put 0!
Sometimes it's better to take another massage than to stay with a girl who you feel she considers you as a sucker!
[QUOTE=Vnwood]Hey guys,
I was introduced to this board by a very distinguished member here. I am relatively new to Vietnam, but have a few experiences.
Does anyone know the address to Vien Dong Massage? I have RTFF and have only read some mention of it, but no real report and location. It is supposed to be popular with the locals. I am white, so would I be accepted?
Would love to report back on my findings. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Vien Dong is on Pham Ngu Lao street but I forgot the number. If you are heading from the Ben Thanh market, it will be on your left hand side after De Tham Street.
[QUOTE=Whisper1]Vien Dong is on Pham Ngu Lao street but I forgot the number. If you are heading from the Ben Thanh market, it will be on your left hand side after De Tham Street.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Whisper, should be easy enough to find. Does any one know price structure or services offered?
Do they give you a plastic bag there for your valuables to carry with you? At a 4-5 star hotel I usually don't worry, but at other places I like to keep my valuables in hand. The Vien Dong, by the way, gives you a bag. The major drawback with the VD (which is generally a nicely run place) is that the girls seldom know how to give a decent massage. If it were baseball, they would be closers only.
Thanks,
BR
[QUOTE=Vnwood]Thanks a lot Whisper, should be easy enough to find. Does any one know price structure or services offered?[/QUOTE]
Massages at Vien Dong is 100K for an hour. If you go before 4pm, you get an hour and a half. I haven't been there in awhile so I don't remember if they still have that promotion.
Most girls only do HJ there, once in awhile, you'll find a gril who will give you a BJ. I usually tip 100k -150k depending on the girl. If she gives me a BJ, then I give her 200K.
Hey all, thanks for the feed back on Vien Dong. Through your reports about VN, I decided to check out another place outside of D1. A fellow distinguished member of another forum hooked me up with the address and # of the girl. WOW. The BEST massage I have ever had in Vietnam to date.
First off, it is in Thu Duc, so is a little way out (up to 1 hr), but the number of foreigners going there are fewer. Got the VIP room 100K. Small locker inside room. As soon as the guy escorted me to my room and left, the girl walked in. She undressed me in a very explorative manor.
She put me in the steam room for a while, its ok. I like the lemon grass smell, but not much into steam. Besides, we were waiting for the bath tub to fill up. She pulled me out of the steam room and into the tub. From there, she washed every part of me, paying very particular attention to my tool and ass. Very methodical and not rushed.
From the start she had a great bubbly attitude for the cute 24y/o. After a thorough washing/bath/shampoo. On came my shorts. She was also wearing loosely fitted clothing, not as nice looking as the teases in D1, but MUCH more accommodating.
A lot more playing and on my front I go. She did the rub/pounding routine. Not bad, but not great. On the flip, she asked if I wanted a BJ. I said yes. She said 400K. I then said 200K. Only did that 2X and she happily agreed with 200K once I told her I knew the price. She just told me no CIM. Agreed and went on.
Up came her top and unhooked her bra. She preceded to give me a tongue bath. A real life, wet tongue bath. From the neck to the nips to the shaft. And she was highly encouraging me to do the same to her. She starts the BBBJ, then lifts up my legs and tosses my salad. WOW. I have never had such a professional job at this. She went on to alternate BBBJ, tossing the salad. I couldn't believe she was so energetic while giving me the "TUMA". All while this is happening, her leg was lifted up on the table giving me very easy access to finger her and DATY.
Then she breaks out the baby oil and lubed up her chest. Nice oiled B cup with her hands squeezing them sent me over the top. From there, she started the clean up routine, first washing herself then a light massage on me. We talked for while and gave me her number.
Over all, the place is not geared for westerners as the decor and cleanliness is local style. However, great service, wonderful attitude, and a unique way about pleasing her clients, I give this place a 9. 5. (only because it was not a classy place and there was a bunch of teenagers (10) without shirts waiting in the lobby and staring at me as I left. Total damage was 100K house + 200K tip = 300K not including taxi (100K one way from D1). 500K total. Not bad in my mind for a little over $30 USD.
As a side note, this gal is really into DFK. I am not, but if that is your thing. Its all you can eat.
Ok, there is an on going debate on this board about how much info should be given. The gal was very free and open, however still constantly checking at the window. I am not sure if LE would try to do something, but if you want the Name, Address, telephone, and girls number, please PM me and I would gladly give it to you.
I am not sure if only this one girl gives this service, or the whole place does. Also, if more is available on the menu for repeats. Guess that we will just have to find out.
[QUOTE=Vnwood]Hey all, thanks for the feed back on Vien Dong. Through your reports about VN, I decided to check out another place outside of D1. A fellow distinguished member of another forum hooked me up with the address and # of the girl. WOW. The BEST massage I have ever had in Vietnam to date.
First off, it is in Thu Duc, so is a little way out (up to 1 hr), but the number of foreigners going there are fewer. Got the VIP room 100K. Small locker inside room. As soon as the guy escorted me to my room and left, the girl walked in. She undressed me in a very explorative manor.
She put me in the steam room for a while, its ok. I like the lemon grass smell, but not much into steam. Besides, we were waiting for the bath tub to fill up. She pulled me out of the steam room and into the tub. From there, she washed every part of me, paying very particular attention to my tool and ass. Very methodical and not rushed.
From the start she had a great bubbly attitude for the cute 24y/o. After a thorough washing/bath/shampoo. On came my shorts. She was also wearing loosely fitted clothing, not as nice looking as the teases in D1, but MUCH more accommodating.
A lot more playing and on my front I go. She did the rub/pounding routine. Not bad, but not great. On the flip, she asked if I wanted a BJ. I said yes. She said 400K. I then said 200K. Only did that 2X and she happily agreed with 200K once I told her I knew the price. She just told me no CIM. Agreed and went on.
Up came her top and unhooked her bra. She preceded to give me a tongue bath. A real life, wet tongue bath. From the neck to the nips to the shaft. And she was highly encouraging me to do the same to her. She starts the BBBJ, then lifts up my legs and tosses my salad. WOW. I have never had such a professional job at this. She went on to alternate BBBJ, tossing the salad. I couldn't believe she was so energetic while giving me the "TUMA". All while this is happening, her leg was lifted up on the table giving me very easy access to finger her and DATY.
Then she breaks out the baby oil and lubed up her chest. Nice oiled B cup with her hands squeezing them sent me over the top. From there, she started the clean up routine, first washing herself then a light massage on me. We talked for while and gave me her number.
Over all, the place is not geared for westerners as the decor and cleanliness is local style. However, great service, wonderful attitude, and a unique way about pleasing her clients, I give this place a 9. 5. (only because it was not a classy place and there was a bunch of teenagers (10) without shirts waiting in the lobby and staring at me as I left. Total damage was 100K house + 200K tip = 300K not including taxi (100K one way from D1). 500K total. Not bad in my mind for a little over $30 USD.
As a side note, this gal is really into DFK. I am not, but if that is your thing. Its all you can eat.
Ok, there is an on going debate on this board about how much info should be given. The gal was very free and open, however still constantly checking at the window. I am not sure if LE would try to do something, but if you want the Name, Address, telephone, and girls number, please PM me and I would gladly give it to you.
I am not sure if only this one girl gives this service, or the whole place does. Also, if more is available on the menu for repeats. Guess that we will just have to find out.[/QUOTE]SOunds great, could you enlighten us on the name and address or if you prefer PM me the details of her? ;-)
Thanks
I have gotten a lot of responses back requesting the address, so I thought I would also give an update. (PM me for the info.)
Been back a couple times and checked out different girls. It seems that the tongue bath is pretty much their signature move at this place with all the girls. All else varies with the provider. I only experienced the salad toss and titty job with one girl. However, another one was CIM and a much better massage / better looking.
Had the chance to see a lot of the girls in there, most of them are normal / average lookers, (except one that I found and experienced). I even told one girl to leave because we didn't hit it off right away in the same magic that I experienced before. Glad I did.
Its worth a try at least once. Friendly staff and the more I went, the place didn't look that bad.
Happy hunting and I look forward to those reports.
Padlock your trousers to show sex is off-limits, Indonesian tourist town tells its masseuses
The Daily Mail (UK), 10th April 2008
Massage parlours in an Indonesian town are asking their female masseuses to padlock their skirts and trousers to make it clear that sex is not on offer.
But the move provoked a protest from the minister for women's affairs in Indonesia, where massage parlours are often a front for prostitution.
"It is not the right way to prevent promiscuity," Meutia Swasono said. "It insults women ... as if they are the ones in the wrong."
Ms Swasono said CCTV was the best way to safeguard women workers in the parlours.
At least one parlour in the tourist town of Batu on Java island has required its masseuses to padlock their skirts or trousers to make it clear that the establishment does not tolerate prostitution.
Others in the town started following suit after local officials suggested it was a good idea at a recent meeting with massage parlour owners.
The Jakarta Post, which quoted Ms Swasono, also showed a photograph of a masseuse with a padlock on the waist band of her trousers and said the local administration's move was aimed at curbing prostitution and maintaining Batu's image as a popular tourist destination.
"The padlocking phenomena has been seen at various parlors and it is something we like," said Imam Suryono, the head of Batu's public order authority.
He denied media reports that he had formally ordered masseuses to wear padlocks.
Batu, 75 km (46 miles) south of Indonesia's second-biggest city, Surabaya, is a popular tourist destination for its cool climate, hot springs and mountain scenery.
Indonesia has a flourishing sex industry and massage parlours are frequently a front for prostitution. But there has been a vigorous debate over morality in recent years, exposing deep divisions in the Southeast Asian Muslim-majority nation.
Last month, Indonesia passed a bill to restrict access to pornographic and violent sites on the internet, while its parliament has yet to pass a controversial pornography bill that aims to shield the young from pornographic material and lewd acts.
Earlier draft versions contained provisions that could jail people for kissing in public and criminalise many forms of art or traditional culture that hinge on sensuality.
Here if my field report for Sachi and Lido:
1. Sachi Spa. Same story as others, I was not impressed. I had forgotten about reading about Sachi in the forum and was called in by a reasonably looking young woman. "Okay, how bad can it be? " was my initial reaction. First problem, the room is a joke, if you can even call it a room. Basically it's a large room upstairs (climbing a ladder, not really stairs) and there are booths with open air above and below. Think a men's restroom where the toilets are, a bunch of handicap stalls next to each other. At this point I'm not even thinking of mongering, the girl is cute and gives a decent massage, but after 20 mins says "how much you pay me. " She started at 800, 000 and I really laughed out loud. This was a problem because other people were getting massages and could hear us! I tried to call the whole thing off because it wasn't really a good setup, but to make a long story short I ended up paying 300, 000 and got it over with, HJ wasn't even that great. So I echo the sentiment, Sachi is awful, avoid at all cost. Setup sucks, you don't get a decent massage, girls are annoyingly pushy. Oh as a price point I did ask about BBBJ but it started the whole 800, 000 negotiation over again so I got bored.
2. Lido. Food massage was actually really good haha. After a quick steam shower (a bit dingy but got the job done), you go to a relaxation area where they had a TV with no sound. There was some fat Japanese dude snoring next to me which kinda sucked, but the foot massage was good, cute young girl, about an 8. I still think the Thais do it best but this was a close 2nd.
The main massage, however, was just awful. I don't know if this is just a Vietnam thing, but the massages are very sharp and painful, kinda like the girl is using her thumb and middle finger as pincers on your pressure points. Hell, maybe it's supposed to be relaxing but it was painful, esp. Since this girl has smaller hands and couldn't really get to the muscle so she was just pinching flab. Ouch! I also think this girl thought applying pressure against the massage table (standing, pushing, poking, etc.) was relaxing no matter how hard. The massage sucked, it was painful and I coudn't really communicate, and in the end I wasn't even in the mood for a HJ. Sucked, next time I'm going to ask for a light oil massage and go straight to the fun, forget the stupid massage.
Haven't gotten around to Viet Dong but that's right down the street from Lido so it's convenient, that's next.
Anyone has more price points for BBBJ or if it's allowed (a bit weird since there are windows in the doors where people can look in).
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As planned, I spent the month of February in Ho Chi Minh City in the Phu Nhuan District. Family home is there. Hard to get away from a wife and three sisters and one housemaid always watching and doing everything possible to tie me down. But, since I got my back hurt there in Vietnam during the way, my wife is a kind soul when it comes to massages. LOL Thank God for small favors. So, thereupon one afternoon I announced I was going for a massage due to severe back pain (true). Up on Nguyen Khem Street right next to the Saigon Co-op market is a Hotel called Thanh Nghia, and on the 6th floor is a Massage Parlor. That is where I went. Upon walking in the door of the hotel and heading toward the elevator, I spied a young lady sitting on a bench waiting for who-knows-what. As I pushed the elevator up-button, she jumped up and approached me, asking if I was going for a Massage. I replied in the affirmative and she immediately asked me if I would like her to give me a massage. I looked her over, and trust me, she was a treasure! So I agreed and up we went together.
Now! When we got upstairs, she started trying to convince the manager of the parlor to allow her to massage me! At first he wasnt buying it, and from my limited Vietnamese, I came to understand that she worked in the hotel, but not in the massage parlor! Oh my word! He finally agreed, and off to the showers I went. Upon entering the room, in she came. Her name was K. U. Thats all I will say. The massage was very professional, including walking on my back, then a very professional back snap! My back pain went away immediately, and I knew she had some professional massage training. That alone made it all worth while. It is amazing what being an American will do to women in Vietnam. I think this girl K. You wanted to marry me! Pity. She was more than beautiful, 27 years old and Madonna face and Model body.
On the flip, she started to play with Junior and the Boys (grin) and I immediately hit her up for full service. Noooooooo, hell no, she was afraid. So I hit her up for BJ, and she said no. But, she kept stopping massaging me to give me hugs! Over and over, she would stop massaging me and just hug me and whisper in my ear "Yeu them nhieu lam". I love you! Niceeeeeeee! Sweet! Finally, she agreed to give me what I wanted for 400, 000, and I gladly agreed, accepted, and received! My Gosh! For this girl, I would have agreed to let her do that in the middle of Le Loi Circle at noon, with the whole world doing a video!
When I was leaving, she came outside with me and begged me to come back! I agreed, whereupon I failed to get her home number. Stupid. Two days later, I went back and the whole staff of the Massage Parlor acted dumb and mute, and claimed not to know her! Imagine that! I went back 3 more times, but never saw her again. LOL My wife asked me how the massage was, and I told her the truth! I told her it was awesome! And effective! Then, she asked me if any extras were offered by the girl, and I told her that no, Thanh Nghia doesnt allow that, and that there is glass in the doors to stop any of that stuff going on. She is comfortable with me going there for a Massage now. 70, 000 for the massage, and any extras negotiated around 200, 000 to 400, 000 but don't count on getting the same as me. However, I will say that the girl staff there are very, very good looking! Have a shot at it fellas and let us know here how you find it!
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Yes, I am going to Ho Chi minh in few weeks and I was exactly looking for a nice place like described. How can I find it Please?
[QUOTE=Ajashi]SOunds great, could you enlighten us on the name and address or if you prefer PM me the details of her? ;-)
Thanks[/QUOTE]
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.
120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.
You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.
So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.
[QUOTE=Vkuc1]For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.
120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.
You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.
So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.[/QUOTE]It's one of the best, if not the best, massage I've ever had in VN.
It's actually on Nguyen Binh Khiem, SW of Nguyen Thi Minh Khai. From Pham Ngu Lao, take Cach Mang Thang 8, Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, turn right, Nguyen Binh Khiem, turn left. Request for Truc, #12. She was great.
[QUOTE=Vkuc1]For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.
120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.
You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.
So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.[/QUOTE]
In most of these place the girls get nothing or very little salary so what they get in tips is it. So you should tip them what the house charges and maybe more.
If you read my posts I am not keen on overpaying but this is for real!
This is a football and tennis facility with a hotel, restaurants, pool and sauna/massage all on the same premises. Off Highway 50 way past Phu My Hung it is about VND120 k for a taxi from town. I had a project near here and it was the only decent place to eat.
Address is: Xã Phong Phú, Huyện Bình Chánh
The massage area has about 10 rooms and you seem to have to choose between sauna or steambath (where your head is outside) and everything is in the room including a wardrobe for your clothes. Appears to be about 20 girls and not much english spoken by staff or girls. Visually they look OK - even in daylight.
You take sauna while the girl runs big spa bath and you then get out and into bath where she very carefully bathes you all over. She stays dressed in skirt and top and bathes you from behind so groping is hard.
Then it is onto the massage table for a regular massage (I refused the shorts) and flip over for HJ service which is when you can have a feel around. The room is closed except for small window in door but the gal still seemed pretty edgy.
Damage was VND100k for house (plus extra for beers) and I tipped gal VND200k in order to make an impression and be remembered if I ever went back.
If you find one that speaks english I am sure that more can be had in hotel which is about $15 per night.
This road also has a lot of Hot Toc places that light up at night but I never bothered because they have no english at all.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]In most of these place the girls get nothing or very little salary so what they get in tips is it. So you should tip them what the house charges and maybe more.
If you read my posts I am not keen on overpaying but this is for real![/QUOTE]I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.
Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? As Sudoz said, I want to be fair when I'm tipping, and I'm curious because of what I'm hearing about tremendous inflation there: around 25% annually, and up to 45% for food. Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?
[QUOTE=Playsafe]I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fw190]Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? As Sudoz said, I want to be fair when I'm tipping, and I'm curious because of what I'm hearing about tremendous inflation there: around 25% annually, and up to 45% for food. Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?[/QUOTE]
At the regular haircut/shampoo/massage places the girls do not normally get a salary at all and are dependent on tips entirely. The only person who get a wage/retainer is the haircutter.
A regular girl with a good job (e.g. office manager with a degree in english) will make about US$1000 per month and my understanding is that at that level they pay very little tax.
[QUOTE=Fw190]Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?[/QUOTE]Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.
The exception here is off course, girls who work in the 'pleasure' industry. Take out the freelancers and you will find that the majority of the other girls work on 'commission/tips' only basis. I met a girl at a massage palour and she said that she received no wages and relied solely on the generosity of the customers, the palour even 'fined' her for taking more than 3 days off per month. On a good month she said she could pull together US$250. Hence if she needed more finance then she would arrange for some 'outside' work.
It's a fine line. Tipping too much will spoil the market, but then too little is offensive/degrading.
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]
The exception here is off course, girls who work in the 'pleasure' industry. Take out the freelancers and you will find that the majority of the other girls work on 'commission/tips' only basis. I met a girl at a massage palour and she said that she received no wages and relied solely on the generosity of the customers, the palour even 'fined' her for taking more than 3 days off per month. On a good month she said she could pull together US$250. Hence if she needed more finance then she would arrange for some 'outside' work.
It's a fine line. Tipping too much will spoil the market, but then too little is offensive/degrading.[/QUOTE]
The girls in vietnam often lie about how much they make to their customers in order for us to give them more then the average amount. For example, if you take a girl at Vien Dong massage, she makes about 100,000 per customer with no extras. On average, she has 3 customers a day. Already, she is making 3,000,000 a month without doing anything extra. Imagine how much she makes with just a handjob to every customer.
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.
.[/QUOTE]
Where do these estimates come from ?
[QUOTE=El Frances]Where do these estimates come from ?[/QUOTE]Are they too Low or too High?
This is approx what I pay my staff.
Thanks guys for the info on wages and cost of living. Very helpful. Just FYI, the reason I asked is because I want to send some money regularly to a young lady I met at a Saigon "rub and tug" place. Her place recently closed and she's out of work now.
Now I can imagine all you cynical VN old-timers getting ready to flame me. :-) But this one is a little different, I think. I've known her now for more than a year and get great massages and nice conversation whenever I visit Saigon two or three times a year. I've never laid a hand on her, and she has never offered. She's from the Mekong Delta, is 25, single, and is working to send money home to her parents (her siblings are all older, married, and don't help the parents). Very intelligent gal, responsible and honest, sweet personality, wants to go to school to improve her English, and definitely not a WG. Oh, and did I mention that she's 9 out of 10? She's going to make a great catch for a rich VN guy someday. Anyway, I think she's one of the many attractive, nice young people in VN who don't have Party connections or rich families, or didn't get the chance to go to university, etc., and so will have a tough time in a tough economy in a tough society. So I want to help out a little. The info on wages is very helpful in figuring out how much is right. Thanks all!
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fw190]Thanks guys for the info on wages and cost of living. Very helpful. Just FYI, the reason I asked is because I want to send some money regularly to a young lady I met at a Saigon "rub and tug" place. Her place recently closed and she's out of work now.
Now I can imagine all you cynical VN old-timers getting ready to flame me. :-) But this one is a little different, I think. I've known her now for more than a year and get great massages and nice conversation whenever I visit Saigon two or three times a year. I've never laid a hand on her, and she has never offered. She's from the Mekong Delta, is 25, single, and is working to send money home to her parents (her siblings are all older, married, and don't help the parents). Very intelligent gal, responsible and honest, sweet personality, wants to go to school to improve her English, and definitely not a WG. Oh, and did I mention that she's 9 out of 10? She's going to make a great catch for a rich VN guy someday. Anyway, I think she's one of the many attractive, nice young people in VN who don't have Party connections or rich families, or didn't get the chance to go to university, etc., and so will have a tough time in a tough economy in a tough society. So I want to help out a little. The info on wages is very helpful in figuring out how much is right. Thanks all![/QUOTE]
I think that I should remind you of the first rule of financial survival in these places.
The first rule is that I never never ever send money to a gal I met in a bar (or similar).
I am happy to donate to the cause when I am there but never send it. When they ask me why - it causes too many complications. 'nuff said.
Sudsoz, on second thought, I realize that you are absolutely right! I can imagine all kinds of complications with sending money from me in the US to her in VN. Much better to "donate to the cause" whenever I'm there, which fortunately is at least a couple times a year. Many thanks for your good insight, as always.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]I think that I should remind you of the first rule of financial survival in these places.
The first rule is that I never never ever send money to a gal I met in a bar (or similar).
I am happy to donate to the cause when I am there but never send it. When they ask me why - it causes too many complications. 'nuff said.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fw190]Sudsoz, on second thought, I realize that you are absolutely right! I can imagine all kinds of complications with sending money from me in the US to her in VN. Much better to "donate to the cause" whenever I'm there, which fortunately is at least a couple times a year. Many thanks for your good insight, as always.[/QUOTE]We've all done some pretty silly things in the pursuit of girls. I'm sure we've all been in situations were we've acted irrationally and with hindsight probably be totally bewildered by our own actions. I.e.. how many times have you walked into a 'dodgy' hotel in pursuit, or left your clothes unattended, or paid upfront, or overpaid.
I think when it comes to the thrill of the chase or the high of the moment, then rational goes out the window.
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]Are they too Low or too High?
This is approx what I pay my staff.[/QUOTE]
hmmm! I tried to find reliable statistics and did not find any. Only that low-skilled factory workers still get lower wages than China (i.e. around 800 K).
[QUOTE=Playsafe]I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.[/QUOTE]I often tip 100, 000 without any complaints. The other day though I gave a girl 150, 000 but she just automatically assumed that 50, 000 was for the shop. I didn't complain. So 100, 000 was more than enough for her. She and probably every other massage girl in the city live in similar conditions and have similar budgets. So why do some expect 200, 000 and others only 100, 000. My point is that they're all doing the same work and should realize that other girls are doing the same work for half the money.
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.
[/QUOTE]Most of the waitstaff at restaurants that I've talked to make less than 1.5 million, $70-80.
Hi Guys,
I am an Indian and I happened to work in HCMC for about a year last year (April 07 to Jan 08). I experienced MP for the first time in HCMC.
I would like to describe the various Spa / MP I visited.
1. Regency Hotel, 206 Ba Thang Hai Street, Dist 10
The ambiance is first rate. They charge USD25 for the total package. It includes Sauna, Steam baths, Jacuzzi (hot and cold), facial, hair cut, foot massage, full body massage, manicure and pedicure. Ofcourse we have to tip for each provider. (100K for the full body massage and 50K for the other services) In the sauna / steam / Jacuzzi area, the one thing I did not like is the bathing space. Its open and I saw everybody taking shower in full nude. Being an Indian I could not do so and took my shower in a trunk provided by the place. After we finished experiencing all the services, we took a nap in the relaxing area. We were given a use and throw tooth brush, paste in the morning to freshen up and took bath and they provided breakfast too.
No extras in massage. Straight forward, professional. We can go there after dinner and stay there till morning.
2. Minh Tanh Hotel, Near War Musium, or the street across MGM, Dist 1
I liked this place so much that I was visiting this place almost twice a week (in addition to other MPs). No restriction on time spent in Sauna, Steam and Jacuzzi. I used to spend about 2-3 hrs per visit. Then while we wait in the relaxing area, they provide some fruits and bottled water. In about 10 to 15 minutes we will be escorted to the massage cabins which were good. The Hotel charges 120K for the full body massage and 60K for the foot massage (sauna, steam, Jacuzzi are included) In about a year long visits, I was massaged twice by the same girl only twice. They get new girls regularly and all of them are beautiful. Only HJ is allowed.
Here I made a habit of controlling the time. I sit in Sauna for 20 min straight, and when I can not bear it anymore, I take a warm water shower usually for 15 min. Then come back to steam bath sit for another 10-20 min. Then take warm water shower for another 10-20 min to let the body cool off slowly and then relax in Jacuzzi for not less than 30 min. The water is usually room temp. When I feel I should take massage I take a cold shower to make the body completely cool. It takes about 30 min. Then I feel fresh and not sweating anymore. I did this from a health point and reduced my weight by 12 Kg in 3 months. Please note: Don’t take cold shower immediately after coming out of Sauna or Steam bath as it will cool your body immediately from outside while your bones are still hot. This will disturb the harmony of the body. The reason I take cold shower before proceeding to massage is to cool my body completely to the bone and not sweat as I feel we should be fresh before massage. The Hotel is changing girls regularly, and I never encountered the same girl twice. Overall they are very friendly and give good HJ. Tips about 200K. Most of the time they demand more but settle for 200K.
3. Saigon Hotel, Infront of Sheraton Hotel, Dist 1
They have refurbished the steam/ sauna bath recently. They have a cozy Jacuzzi. A small one for one person. I was fortunate that when ever I visited, I was alone in Jacuzzi for as long as I wished. They charge USD. 10 for one hour massage (Ofcourse sauna, steam, Jacuzzi are included). There is no relaxing area and you will be escorted to the massage cabins immediately (by one of the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in Vietnam) Massage is usual. HJ costs 200K. Most of the time they demand USD50 but they settle for 200K.
4. Ngoc Anh (as described in the earlier posts by others) Dist 1
It is by far the best massage I ever received. The flip side is the Steam, Sauna are small and very much crowded. I had to wait for 15 min just to enter Sauna. Somehow I did not like their Jacuzzi and the shower area. But the massage is the best with hot stones. The ladies are usually in their 30s and very professional. There is no extras. They charge 100K and 100K tip to the lady.
5. Two other non descript MPs in Tan Binh Dist:
These places are a not clean, massage not satisfactory but cheap. I only visited them out of curiosity to know how MPs are in places other than Dist 1. They are for locals only and everybody as watching me curiously while I was there. In one MP the girl accepted for a BBBJ without CIM for 200K. But it was not very professional. The girls are happy with 100K for HJ.
6. Dance bar girl: From Gossip.
The first time I went to Gossip was in April 07 (before they closed for some time) and then they were charging USD. 5 for entry on weekends. My friend was fuming as no other establishment was charging money just for entry. (They say a drink was free). Well the girls there are strikingly beautiful. I was dancing with a beautiful girl may be 5’6" flat belly but big tits fat thighs. She asked me whether she can come with me to my room. She offered for USD. 100. As I was a novice, after consulting with my friend, agreed. I was not sure what I will do with her and after reaching home on her bike, I told her I am not interested in Bom bom. She gave me BBBJ and after shower we were lying on bed in each others arms chatting and after some time as I was feeling the urge down below. She sensed it and again went down to take care of the tension. Again a BBBJ and we went back to sleep. Early in the morning when I was feeling cozy, she again gave me a BBBJ. I told her she has to leave as my friends may be coming over. She understood and left immediately. Very thourough professional!
In the morning after the effects of the last night’s high was out, my friend gave me some valuable advise. Not to bring any girl home and never pay anygirl more than USD. 40 max. But it happened casually and the girl was also nice so no probs.
Over all my stay in Vietnam was a very happy one. People are very friendly and want to know more about outside world. Their hunger to learn English was anormous. Very very hard working people and I prefer to go to HCMC over Bangkok if chance comes by.
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[QUOTE=Newbie From Vza] Please note: Don’t take cold shower immediately after coming out of Sauna or Steam bath as it will cool your body immediately from outside while your bones are still hot. This will disturb the harmony of the body. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, NFV!
Quick comment to your note:
Common wisdom in Finland (the gurus for dry sauna) is that you should indeed take a very very cold shower immediately after leaving a sauna (especially if you stay in there for 20 mins). The sauna pushes your blood from the inner circle to the outer circle, and the cold bath pushes it back from your extremities into the inner bloodcircle.
I find the feeling of an icecold shower better that the crappy handjobs they give you in some of these places
Hasta
Centaurus
[QUOTE=Newbie From Vza]
In the morning after the effects of the last night’s high was out, my friend gave me some valuable advise. Not to bring any girl home and never pay anygirl more than USD. 40 max. But it happened casually and the girl was also nice so no probs.
[/QUOTE]
Great report. Thanks.
I'm not sure I agree with your friend - the rates for girls are higher in those discos, for sure. What she offered to go for is what I've heard is the going rate these days in discos. Maybe someone else knows better than myself, but I have never heard that it's possible to get a girl at a disco for as low as just $40. Maybe you could negotiate something a little lower, can only try, but I very much doubt you could get her down to just $40. Also, Gossip is perhaps the highest priced disco in HCMC, so...
I also don't understand why your friend said never to bring a girl back, because that's very commonly done here. '
Hi All,
I have a question for some of you guys who live there in HCM or go there quite often. Maybe Wendella or Sudsoz will know. A Viet-Kieu friend of mine who goes there a couple of times a year told me about a couple of places there in HCM called Le Duyen. I know that Le Duyen II is downtown in District 1 on Cong Quynh Street. Now, my friend told me that the usual High-Class services can be had there, including haircut, facials, foot massage and body massage. My question is, do any of you guys know it, and exactly what services are offered? I shall be back for 5 weeks in January and Febrauary next year, and I would be interested in knowing what I can expect beforehand.
According to my Viet-Kieu friend, depending on the girl, you can go as far as possible (pun intended). LOL Of course, I don't know if that has something to do with being Vietnamese, or speaking the language, or just money. So please guys, someone let me know if you have any knowledge of those places.
Thanks,
H
In regards to Le Duyen:
I happened to frequent a similar establishment today. There are plenty around town disguised in different names which basically all follow a similar formula. And that is.
Walk in, greeted by half a dozen of the sexiest girls you'll see, pick one, choose the service you want (hair wash, face wash, manicure/pedicure, ear clean, foot massage, body massage) and then proceed to a room.
Now this room will be used by 3 to 5 other customers who are receiving various services. So there goes any extra services. And that's just the point. These places ARE NOT for extra services. These places are for relaxation and if the conversation goes right then a follow up date OUTSIDE the girls working hours.
You might get a stray girl who needs the money desperately, who will go against rules and sneak in a sly service when the room is empty, but if there are other customers around then no chance of anything else but the services above.
All in All not a waste of time if can manage to get the girls number for a follow up, but certainly if you are looking for instant action.
Mash
Now that I am a member of ISG and reading reports regularly, I curse myself for not knowing ISG two years back. I curse myself for all the action I missed. Though had intension, money, and opportunity, simply I could not experience many of the exciting things just because, I don’t know where to look and what to expect.
The places described below as Le Duyen are actually called Hot Toc places or Hair Dressing Saloons. During one conversation, my friends said they visited a Saloon, where they offer extra services. I felt embarrassed to ask them the address. Though I vaguely remember the place they were referring to. On the way from An Phu to Dist 1 after you cross the Saigon bridge you reach a big round about. On the left side of the road (some where near the Chinese temple) they visited the Hot Toc. They said the ticket is 50K and extra services are 100K.
Though I was not clear of the address, I tried to find out on my own by foot. I could not locate the place. More over the area is full of locals who were very curious to see me. (They have not seen many Indians though they have seen Europeans) So I got cold feet and returned to An Phu.
Later when I enquired with my Vietnamese friend, he informed me that though there are many Hot Toc in Dist 1, as they are very visible, they don’t offer the extras. Only Hot Tocs out of Dist 1 like Tanh Binh Dist offer such service.
My advise is for you guys interested to explore Tanh Binh Dist, better go there with Vietnamese friends. If it will not help you much, at least it will make you comfortable with the knowledge that, some local friend will make the conversation for you if required.
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Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.
Was quoted and paid $10 (paid in dong though) at the door.
Picked the only pretty girl. She looked hard and unhappy. An older woman who spoke English took us to the massage room. She said that a BJ would require an 800, 000 dong tip. I said I would pay 200, 000. She negotiated hard! And we finally settled on $300, 000. She wanted the money up front and I refused.
The service was not good. She gave a substandard HJ until I reminded her of the BJ. Then she gave a toothy BJ for some part of a minute. Then she went back to HJ. I coaxed about another 30 seconds of BJ from her before I just gave up.
I went downstairs and told the boss that I was not happy and wanted another girl. They gave me one, but now they wanted the money up front again. I gave them some of the money up front.
Second girl invited groping (an improvement) but she still mostly gave a HJ. At least she gave a good HJ and it was over pretty quick. Then I was hassled for a tip and refused since the experience was pretty miserable.
I do not recommend this place!
Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!
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[QUOTE=Vkuc1]For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.
120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.
You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.
So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.[/QUOTE]
I found that foot massage here is much better than in China or anywhere else. You need to have a male for foot massage as female is a little bit weak and can't give enough pressure.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]26-9-2008
Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.
Was quoted and paid $10 (paid in dong though) at the door.
Picked the only pretty girl. She looked hard and unhappy. An older woman who spoke English took us to the massage room. She said that a BJ would require an 800, 000 dong tip. I said I would pay 200, 000. She negotiated hard! And we finally settled on $300, 000. She wanted the money up front and I refused.
The service was not good. She gave a substandard HJ until I reminded her of the BJ. Then she gave a toothy BJ for some part of a minute. Then she went back to HJ. I coaxed about another 30 seconds of BJ from her before I just gave up.
I went downstairs and told the boss that I was not happy and wanted another girl. They gave me one, but now they wanted the money up front again. I gave them some of the money up front.
Second girl invited groping (an improvement) but she still mostly gave a HJ. At least she gave a good HJ and it was over pretty quick. Then I was hassled for a tip and refused since the experience was pretty miserable.
I do not recommend this place!
Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!
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Backpack areas like this are for, may I say, "cheap" foreigners (backpack means "ba lo" in Vetnamese and it has a notorious meaning for being cheap). So coming to these places you normally don't get good service. I always avoid them but understand that you guys don't have time and resources to find out better places. To us, Vietkieu, probably the best place is in coffee shops if you know nobody in VN.
I was staying in Rex, . And when I came out out of the hotel today a cyclo driver came running back shouted boom boom. Since I wasnt keen, he took me to a massage place in the Rang Dong hotel 1st floor (see their website for more details). Its a decent place. I paid just 150000 Dongs for 1 hour excellent massage. The lady was also cute looking. Finally towards end megotiated 200k for the oily HJ. The cyclo driver was waiting for me outside and took me back to rex I paid him 50k. Overall very good.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]26-9-2008
Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.
I do not recommend this place!
Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!
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The place you mentioned, the only place I know of on Ly Thai To, has been known to rip off foreigners. I don't think paying more gets you any better service. Just try to act like you know what you're doing and what to expect.
Lets see if this form will correct some out of control attitudes.
I really need it translated into Vietnamese - I figure greedy girls need a reverse lesson . I printing some out now for D1.
It lost formatting - not sure how to add a word form to this post, but here goes:-
Performance Evaluation
Masseuse
Employee’s Name: Girl Number: Date: Time:
I. Customer Liaison
Needs Does Not
Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet
A. Overall, pleasing customer service 0 0 0 0
B. Does not destroy the mood by aggressive
tip pleading and whining. 0 0 0 0
C. Does not lie or try to rip off foreigners 0 0 0 0
D. Provides full service at a normal price
when client calls their bluff. 0 0 0 0
E. Awareness that an unhappy client
costs the business and employer money 0 0 0 0
And trade and repeat business.
F. Performs other duties as 0 0 0 0
appropriate and/or directed
II. Interpersonal Relations and Communication
Needs Does Not
Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet
A. Creates an inviting and 0 0 0 0
professional atmosphere
B. Maintains a cordial and effective 0 0 0 0
relationship with customers
C. Demonstrates courtesy and 0 0 0 0
Professionalism in all communications
D. Maintains appropriate and effective 0 0 0 0
communications with co-workers,
management and clients.
III. Value to the Business and Employer
Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet
A. Normal Massage Ability. 0 0 0 0
B. Special Massage Ability and skill 0 0 0 0
C. Meets or exceeds all customer expectations 0 0 0 0
D. Demonstrates initiative and 0 0 0 0
good judgment
E. Client unconditionally happy and says
coming back and will recommend to friends 0 0 0 0
IV. Client Exit Report
Evaluation of Performance Tick or Mark as appropriate
A. Very happy, will come back. 0
B. Very unhappy, will try another establishment
or may not come back. 0
C. Employee did a poor service and tried to
cut my throat (Rip off / Overcharge) 0
D. Employee decided to hurt the business
By providing substandard service at an
Excessive price even after being caught out. 0
E. Employee has no idea what a tip is and
that it must be earned, not extorted, treated
client as a walking ATM 0
F. Employee is perfect and an asset to
the business and clients. 0
G. Management needs to talk to the employee
If she tries to cheat and make clients unhappy
- needs a warning. 0
H. Overall score out of 10 (Where 10 is perfect) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
- ***** Poor Average Good Excellent >
Comments:
Management Instructions:
Post this review form for employees to clearly see.
Post the form prominently so clients can fill out if they wish.
Employees with many negative comments should be allowed the chance to improve.
There should be a generous bonus for good employees who have the most number of positive reports.
I have read this evaluation.
_____________________________________ _____________________________________
Evaluator’s Signature (optional) Evaluatee’s Signature
I just posted in general info that an attractive 19 yo barhostess makes 1.2 million dong a month plus tips with food and accom throwns in (3 to a room) Divide by 17000 to convert to USD. Therefore 50,000 a DAY is about the going rate unless you have skills.
I will be in Saigon in a couple of weeks. What's the best way for FS in your hotel (yes, my hotel is ok to bring people back). I'm not into massage and HJ and BBBJ is ok, but I'd rather have covered FS. So, the best place to score? Girls looks 6-10 (not picky) and relatively cheap (under $50 USD).
Please help me make sense of all the different vietnam opinions.
[QUOTE=Sfinil]I will be in Saigon in a couple of weeks. What's the best way for FS in your hotel (yes, my hotel is ok to bring people back). I'm not into massage and HJ and BBBJ is ok, but I'd rather have covered FS. So, the best place to score? Girls looks 6-10 (not picky) and relatively cheap (under $50 USD).
Please help me make sense of all the different vietnam opinions.[/QUOTE]
There are about a dozen billiard style bars with gals around District 1 catering to Western and North Asian clients. Streets like Hai Bai Trung, Mac Thi Boui and others. Going rate is about VND1.2 m for all night plus hotel. ST probably less. But you have to negotiate because they will start higher.
More details are in the forum.
After many goes at 120,000 entrance fee, I can inform members that the sisterhood seem to have a set price menu here. They open at USD 40 for a HJ, and become really stubborn if less than 200K is offered, which is about double the local price tip. They even whinge and bicker and extend negotiation out more than 5 minutes. Anyway, after tipping 50,000 for nothing, and some other low ball numbers, and complaints at the counter for disrespectful service, I think a few are beginning to think there are consequences. I highly commend members not to tip mercenary teasers.
Successful low ball bids of 120,000 (same as entrance ticket price) acheived.
If people are looking for a good, sincere, sexy nice long massage, after trying a few i now go no further than the FESTIVAL massage on CAO THANG street, district 3. My particular recommendation goes to number 30, Diem i think her name is - lovely long legs and very very sexual - but in around 15-20 visits i have only left disappointed twice. Lots of teasing and tickling your balls, occasional nagging for tips but if you warn them that you'll snitch to the desk they soon shut up. Also, you know when you have that massage with no touching and teasing, and they suddenly say "massa babee" - cover your dick in oil and try to get it done as quick as possible? - well none of that goes on at Festival - they really lead you up to it overall, i cant recommend the place highly enough.
100,000 entrance, and i usually tip 100-150,000. great place.
[occasional nagging for tips but if you warn them that you'll snitch to the desk they soon shut up.
Or a happy or sad face on the tip paper slip. 8/10 is another variation.
Let the girl know firmly, she has a job to do, and excess haggling is unacceptable. So is not reaching an agreement.
I've put 0/10 Unsatisfactory and complained to front desk. Check out my report card. As most complaints are not acted on, don't be afraid to tell the truth,
Entrance ticket price, or half of that is reasonable.
[QUOTE=Smartbuy]After many goes at 120,000 entrance fee, I can inform members that the sisterhood seem to have a set price menu here. They open at USD 40 for a HJ, and become really stubborn if less than 200K is offered, which is about double the local price tip. They even whinge and bicker and extend negotiation out more than 5 minutes. Anyway, after tipping 50,000 for nothing, and some other low ball numbers, and complaints at the counter for disrespectful service, I think a few are beginning to think there are consequences. I highly commend members not to tip mercenary teasers.
Successful low ball bids of 120,000 (same as entrance ticket price) acheived.[/QUOTE]Good work! They always start out with outrageous prices at this place. Probably because it is right in the tourist district.
[QUOTE=D Cups]Hello!
I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
That's almost 3 months away :confused: I know you are sooo excited but
around here in VN, they dont plan as far ahead as that.
They only plan for "today" if not "now"
So please enquire again a 2, 3 days before you hit VN.
:)
[QUOTE=D Cups]Hello!
I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!
Thanks![/QUOTE]I had a HJ in a massage joint in Nha Trang from a girl with some nice DD's. The place was on the left hand side of the street as you walk North on Hung Vuong Street, about mid block between Bien Thu Street and Nguyen Thi Minh Kai. (Near the #18 on this map)
Had a couple of girls seated inside, the front doors were wide open. Offered massage upstairs for 100,000 dong. Mostly a slapping massage, she didn't know what she was doing. She asked "you want him massage"?
She massaged the nether region, and I asked her to lift her top (she was very reluctant to do that) and she exposed a wonderful set of DD's.
Tip was 100,000 dong.
Smiley Bar is one place to go, from what I could tell there is a mixture of natural and enhanced. There was one quite persistent girl with an amazing natural rack but I didn't like her attitude and she had a nasty bruise on her arm. In then end I managed to end up with possibly the flattest chested girl in the place but she wasnt so pushy. We went upstairs to play pool (for those who arent familiar the deal is that if she wins you pay $10, if you win she has to strip). I lost the first game but she offered to make me happy to compensate I reluctantly agreed and I got a very nice BBBJCIM for a reasonable price. I then thrashed her at the next game of pool
Yes she kept pushing for drinks but she said that if she had 5 then she could leave with me for free. It wasnt a great deal to pay so I indulged her but then left on my own. Needed to get some sleep. All in all a very nice evening.
[QUOTE=D Cups]Hello!
I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups]Thanks, Ian. Where is Smiley Bar located, please? I will go there.[/QUOTE]
Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey - about VND1.5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.
The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.
some time ago, someone reported on this place with some appreciative comments.
so i decided to give a try.
also for anyone who comes to hcmc for the first time, and has chance to visit massage places, the following general description may be of help. of course the system/service differs from place to place, mind.
you must understand the system to avoid feeling ripped off.
i went to this place for a decent massage and a happy ending, nothing else. to tell the truth, i only came for a happy ending and a telephone number :confused: because i know a massage in this type of place is dismal. i mean i would consider myself lucky if i get only minor bruises.
the system:
take a lift to the 4th floor and walk up the stairs. you come to a small reception area. without any info on the price and services, a guy whisks you through to a confined changing area. as a first timer, you are likely to just follow what they show you. you would notice there are so many attendants (i wonder why so many?) you take all the clothes off and wrap yourself with a towel. a guy will show you the steam bath, sauna etc. so far so good (except you may be wondering how much its going to cost)
after steam/sauna, a guy guides you to a room which resembles an operating theatre. they tell you to lie down on a stainless bed with a towel over it. at this point, you should be seeing the big warning sign across your face. this is i think where a guy will wash you all over including your manhood. if you dont want to feel raped afterwards, you must insist that you dont want it. (certainly i did tell them i didn’t) but they insist you to lie down there because they want money for this from unsuspected customers. just say not loud but firmly "toi khong muon" or/and "khong can". tell them you want a shower. reluctantly they would show you where the shower is. after shower, you would be given this ridiculously large shorts to wear, which looks a bit dirty as well.
now they guide you to a large room with many old comfy chairs. they tell you to sit in one of them, and bring you a tea and some fruit. they want to massage your feet. if you want it and know how much it costs and are comfortable with it, then go ahead (but a guy will do this, i think). in my case, i said “i no want!” (by this time, my english is suffering as well) having successfully thwarted their rip off plans, i was finally taken to a massage cubicle.
in there, i was greeted by a 23 yo girl, a nice shape, firm b size rack which i like and seems friendly. she started massaging (if you can call that). a 80% of time she was trampling on my back. it is of course easier to use the feet instead of the hands. this continued 35 minutes. sooner did i flip over, than she started to play my manhood. she was much better on this department. she looked into my eyes intensely while executing the hand movement, and me touching her crotch area which was heavily protected. but i managed to insert my middle finger a little into her. after a hj, more groping. her rack were firm with small nipples. we exchanged telephone numbers for the outside rendezvous. :)
total damage: 310k vnd (ticket:110k, tip:200k) which is less than 20usd. but from my experience, 110k for the place is a little steep considering the location, i.e outside of the tourist areas. the tip of 200k was also too much, considering the massage. but she was sweet afterwards.
hi regarding festival massage on cao thang:
i am very very familiar with this place as i used to go all the time when i lived in vn. the entrance fee is slightly higher than other local vietnamese massage parlours because cao thang is in an area where they will get foreigners as customers aswell so hence the slightly higher entrance fee (about 30.000vnd higher than local vietnamese parlours) but for this price increase you will get a lounge where you will get a lye-back chair and watch tv and eat fruit, this is also where you can get the foot massage:
steel bed room:
right first of all, the guys in here are not gay, gay guys work in vn gay massage parlours. basically what happens in this room is you lie face down on the steel bed with cloth and they give you a exfoliating body scrub. they do not scrub your genitals. but if you are like myself, then you probably don't want to go in this room, as 1 although it's nothing i just don't want another guy rubbing me down when i am naked, and 2 it really is not worth the money. speak of money, there is no actual charge for this service, they just ask for a tip, normally 50.000vnd, you either write it down on the tip sheet (they will only receive a percentage of that tip) or you give them the tip cash in hand (they don't tell reception anything and they will get the full tip).
foot massage:
it costs around 80.000vnd for 45mins or so, tips should normally be around 50.000vnd, so total 130.000vnd for this service. these are done by trained male foot massage therapists who only do this for a living. in my opinion well worth it, but hey that's just me, some people are weird about getting their feet touched but not me, it is actually very very comfy on the feet and the therapist also helps you to rectify back problems etc. by pressure pointing on the feet.
body massage:
all i can say is 200.000vnd? don't let them ripp you off like that! us local guys only pay 100.000vnd tip (some even 50.000vnd but to me that is a little low). before you ask, no i am not vietnamese, i just lived and worked there so i know all the ins and outs (as some members of this forum can vouch after previously meeting up with me). some girls after the body massage will ask you if you want your manhood massaged, they will look at the expression on your face to see if you are new to this or not, if they think you are new (potential money) then they will ask you how much you will pay, they might even say 500.000vnd etc. if you play it cool and act as if you have used this service regularly then they won't even ask you how much you will give. anyway if they do ask you, just say 100.000vnd, obviously they will say no and try to banter, just stick with your price, trust me they would rather have the 100.000vnd (standard local tip price) than nothing! if they don't ask you, then what happens is at the end of the manhood massage (and when your hour is up) they will ask you to write on a tip sheet (a little piece of pre-printed paper), you simply write 100.000vnd and say thank you, they can't change it or they will get in trouble so dont worry if she starts cuddling you and asking for more lol!
well, that is all i have to contribute to the subject, i like this place because although the entrance fee is slightly higher than the others, it is bigger and has more girls and also foot massage too which i think is essential as normally i go to foot massage places which cost you around 200.000vnd inc tip. so 130.000vnd in the same place as you get a body massage is a bargain. so all in all a brilliant complete service for around 300.000vnd !
oh and i forgot, festival do certain time periods (up until 6pm or something) where entrance fee is only 80.000vnd or something and after that is 110.000vnd or something
I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.
How much is a standard hotel?
Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?
What is an average meal cost there?
Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.
Thank you guys
Per recommendation by a member of this forum I tried out Minh Tanh Hotel, near the War Museum. I live around the area and was happy to find another place as my usual place was located on Nguyen Dinh Chieu, near HBT, next door to a discotech. Minh Tanh was a much nicer setup than the my usual place and the girls were much better looking. I'd say they were 6 and 7's and may be an 8. I saw the lot of them as I was walking upstairs and the locker room door opened.
This place was quite relaxing and it was 130K for massage and used of sauna and jacuzzi. I wanted a food massage also but it was too late and no workers to give it to me.
The girl I got was not bad. Face was of a 16 year old but a body of a 21 year old. She could not speak a lick of English so it was hard to communicate anything. The best part of the massage was a back massage, but all other parts were horrible. Hardly massaged my foot, hands, legs, arms and head. I closed my eyes the whole time and I think she was asking to massage my dude and with my limited VN skills I think she was asking me how much for tip but since I could not understand, she stood there, softly rubbing my legs. After a while she kept trying to talk to me and it became annoying because her laugh was of a child and she made these weird facial expressions. After about 8 minutes of this, she touched Mr. dude and I smiled and she began.
After the whole bit it seems as if she wanted me to write the tip on the piece of paper but I kept trying to give it to her. She kept giving it back to me and I felt maybe she wanted more. But in the end she did take the tip, 200K, and I walked out without any complaints from her.
Very nice massage cabins, and the place was pretty clean. They close a bit early, like 1am. I would go back there easily. Since the forum thread I read that they change girls frequently, I'd really like to get a doll who does not annoy me.
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I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.
Then I go off to real massage. The best for the price in HCMC is on Nguyen Binh Khiem St near Nguyen Thi Minh Khai St. It's called Ngoc Anh and is always quite busy. 120k for the one hour body massage and they use hot stones for 10 or 15 mins too, included. The girls are nice and professional. You don't touch them, there are no hand jobs. There is little privacy but it is very clean and professional. Last night the girl was so sweet, so gentle, so very pretty, a real little angel with soft hands. Thuy Duong is 22, from Can Tho and has worked there 2 years. She speaks a little English (I speak Vietnamese). Just a really nice girl and a relaxing experience. I take a sauna and shower first, and as I said, am much more relaxed because I have just had a CIM BJ from another Can Tho cutie! So both experiences cost 170k for a total of 340k and time of around 2.5 hours with shower and sauna. That's how I really relax.
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[QUOTE=Johndao]I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.
Then I go off to real massage. The best for the price in HCMC is on Nguyen Binh Khiem St near Nguyen Thi Minh Khai St. It's called Ngoc Anh and is always quite busy. 120k for the one hour body massage and they use hot stones for 10 or 15 mins too, included. The girls are nice and professional. You don't touch them, there are no hand jobs. There is little privacy but it is very clean and professional. Last night the girl was so sweet, so gentle, so very pretty, a real little angel with soft hands. Thuy Duong is 22, from Can Tho and has worked there 2 years. She speaks a little English (I speak Vietnamese). Just a really nice girl and a relaxing experience. I take a sauna and shower first, and as I said, am much more relaxed because I have just had a CIM BJ from another Can Tho cutie! So both experiences cost 170k for a total of 340k and time of around 2.5 hours with shower and sauna. That's how I really relax.
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Great advice. But where on DBP do you get such good service?
Totally agree with you that Ngoc Anh gives excellent massage but is a little crowded at times.
Cheers mate.
BP
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey - about VND1.5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.
The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.[/QUOTE]Do you happen to know the cross street or house #? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Johndao]I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.[/QUOTE]Hey john,
I was wondering if you could tell me where this BJ place so I can try it out. Do you have the cross street or the name of the place? Because you know how those viet taxi drivers are, they live there for like 50 years and still need the need the cross streets to find the place.
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=George Sims]I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.
How much is a standard hotel?
Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?
What is an average meal cost there?
Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.
Thank you guys[/QUOTE]
George - all the information that you need is in the forum.
And I do not believe that the flippers drool over Americans as such. I will avoid any racial or cultural comments but suffice to say that what they and the Viet Gals drool over is fat western wallets. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Dawg415]Per recommendation by a member of this forum I tried out Minh Tanh Hotel, near the War Museum. I live around the area and was happy to find another place as my usual place was located on Nguyen Dinh Chieu, near HBT, next door to a discotech. Minh Tanh was a much nicer setup than the my usual place and the girls were much better looking. I'd say they were 6 and 7's and may be an 8. I saw the lot of them as I was walking upstairs and the locker room door opened.
This place was quite relaxing and it was 130K for massage and used of sauna and jacuzzi. I wanted a food massage also but it was too late and no workers to give it to me.
The girl I got was not bad. Face was of a 16 year old but a body of a 21 year old. She could not speak a lick of English so it was hard to communicate anything. The best part of the massage was a back massage, but all other parts were horrible. Hardly massaged my foot, hands, legs, arms and head. I closed my eyes the whole time and I think she was asking to massage my dude and with my limited VN skills I think she was asking me how much for tip but since I could not understand, she stood there, softly rubbing my legs. After a while she kept trying to talk to me and it became annoying because her laugh was of a child and she made these weird facial expressions. After about 8 minutes of this, she touched Mr. dude and I smiled and she began.
After the whole bit it seems as if she wanted me to write the tip on the piece of paper but I kept trying to give it to her. She kept giving it back to me and I felt maybe she wanted more. But in the end she did take the tip, 200K, and I walked out without any complaints from her.
Very nice massage cabins, and the place was pretty clean. They close a bit early, like 1am. I would go back there easily. Since the forum thread I read that they change girls frequently, I'd really like to get a doll who does not annoy me.
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Not finding a Minh Tanh hotel but I am finding a Thanh Minh hotel on Bui Thi Xuan but that is a little way from the War Museum. street address?
If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. It's not thrilling, it's not the greatest, but it's an ok way to spend a little time, a little money and see the real VN (and cum too)! The place (and there are many many more like it but I will describe 1 place and 1 girl and 1 experience. Go to Lam Van Ben St. in District 7. It's very close to D1 and D4 for those of you with a great fear of leaving the city center. Lam Van Ben runs north-south between Tran Xuan Soan and Nguyen Thi Thap which are parallel East-west roads. Go to a little cafe, number 178a closer to Ng Thi Thap, on the right side heading south. Park your bike and order a coffee. Observe the dogs and the chickens. Go to a little curtained off are in the back where there are just little beach type chairs to sit on. Open your pants and the girl will blow you. Open her shirt, play with her tits, open her pants, play with her ass and pussy. Give them 20,000 for the inside coffee and 100k to the girl who blows you, that's all, no more please! If seated in the outside looking area, you can watch the rooster tied to the try running in circles. Privacy is minimal but nobody wants to look at you. Important point: Look for Lieu, a 24 yo girl from Ben Tre. I saw three girls/women there. Two were absolutely frightening! Lieu is ok, but her facial skin is not great. But she's friendly and has a nice smile and good BJ lips. What's especially interesting though, and the reason I mention all this here, are her Tits and her pussy (hair). Her breasts are near perfect, not too big or small, whit with really big nobby firm protruding nipples. And her pussy hair? In all my years and all the hundreds of Asians I have seen I have never ever seen longer straighter pussy hair. I had her stand up and it must have protruded 5 inches out. So much hair in a small place, not spread out all over the place. But you can still see her small pussy below as the hair is not dense lower. So, the combination of her wonderful tits and nips, the great hair down below, her good attitude and her hard work on BJ make it a worthwhile effort. Oh, I forgot to say, she does not appreciate cum in her mouth and my cock is thick and I pushed her down deeper which made her gaga repeatedly. Hard for her to make me cum. But she uses a side technique which allows a full view of mouth and lips with cock in them. Again, for $7 all told, a fun experience if just to see that hair! One last note, she gave me her number and is happy to go to a hotel next time.
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[QUOTE=George Sims]I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.
How much is a standard hotel?
Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?
What is an average meal cost there?
Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.
Thank you guys[/QUOTE]
"standard hotel" - this is a bit vague, but I guess you want a mini hotels at 30~40USD range?. There are many hotels like these in anmd around the centre. Of course there are family run hotels/guest house places from 10USD in bankpackers area to Sheraton, Caravelle hotel at 200USD+ etc.
"Americans" - They still hate Americans because of the war (only joking)
I am afraid Americans are nothing special. Japanese are more desireble because they pay hansomely and less demanding.
"meals" - what do you want to eat? If you are a standard person, then with 30USD you would eat well at standard places.
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Jondao, thank you for your very insightful reports and good contact information. I have been to Vietnam many times over the years, but my recent trips were so rushed or otherwise monopolized by traveling companions that I haven't been able to explore like I used to or like you are doing now.
I'm saving your posts for the next trip. Keep them coming!
Since I found this Forum, it has encouraged me to go out and try to find some new places near the center and a bit away from the center as well. I have my favorite 100k BJ CIM places and have been very happy with the 4 I regularly visit and their turnover in girls is usually excellent. As for meeting girls outside, the Ng Chi Thanh strip in D5 is best overall as it is very active both at luchtime and the evening/night. The Nguyen Binh Khien/Ng Dinh Chieu mobile ***** market has been forced to move again, now only on Ng Binh Khiem and getting smaller all the time. I remember when it was on Le duan near the Zoo around 2005-6, that was great. Now, you can still find them on Le Duan near the Sofitel and across from the US Consulate, but only at night. Oh, and of course, ADR near Diamond Plaza is very god for late mornings/afternoons still. Some nasty stuff around the turtle on Pham Ngoc Thach at lunchtime though.
Anyway, I was looking further in D7, I mentioned earlier a so-so cafe om that Joe followed up on. He could not find hairy, pointy Lieu and the others I saw there were kind of horrible, also Joe upped my rate by 25% which I was not too happy about. So to avoid inflation I've got to keep the best BBS and Cafe Om to myself. Don't have any good Cafe Om really though.
So I'm cruising along the waterway in D7 on Tran Xuan Soan and pop into a dirty looking Hot Toc where I found one not too attractive gal doinf massage in the back for 50k and 1 guy-- the boss. I passed on that and moved down the road a bit to a brighter, cheery , more modern looking place. Lots of cuties in short pink dresses inside, a guy getting a haircut, another getting his ears reamed. Massa is the usual 70k but with everybody around I did not want to ask exactly what that meant. Since there is real haircut going on, and the back area had many beds side by side with big windows, I did not see much chance for privacy so I passed but will return sometime.
Continuing down the road now, neat the Lam Van Ben intersection I saw a dirty looking little BBS place called Minh Chau. I went in and there was a rather grungy looking mid-20's couple playing with their purple haired youngster, about 3 years-old. There were four girls there, three in the short tight show a lot of cleavage massage girl outfits, and a tall, thin, rather pretty but dark girl who had just arrived and was not changed yet. A pretty girl in pale blue, with white skin and slim legs and very ample cleavage showing showing looked most promising, followed by the tall one who was in white jeans and t-shirt and then a younger, cute kind of squat girl with a nice smile. Number 4 was big and ugly and hairy and scary in a bright red dress. Like a Tijuana nightmare.
The couple asked 150k for massa including tip and I chose the girl in blue. Pretty dirty but ac and curtained off area in the back. I lay on my stomach and she did a short but ok rub rub chop chop on my back. Turned over and pulled her close. Uh oh, she recoiled. We have a problem here, obvious already. She undid my pants, broke open a wet towel and laid it on my belly. Uh oh, big problem, no clean. She grabbed my dick and started to pump it up and down with her hand in the most disinterested and rather disgusted way possible, while keeping herself far from me. After 10 seconds I said 'suck it' (Thoi di) and when she said 'no, she doesn't do that, she's new' I sat bolt upright and said I was out of there or get a different girl. So the tall dark one comes in and says she sucks and points to her lips which were nice. But then the big one in red, horrid woman, barges through the curtain and demands loudly 'bo co di' (give her a tip) and points to the one in blue. She repeated it over and over. Now this woman is so horrible to look at you can't imagine. There was long tufty hair covering her legs from the knee down. Not only is this woman the ugliest sex worker I have ever seen, she is actually THE ugliest woman I have ever seen in all of Vietnam.
I grabbed my shirt, did the buttons, slipped on my shoes, got my bike keys out, pushed past the three of them and said "I am outta here." Got to the door, the guy on the couch with the purple hired boy slid the door open for me without even glancing up. Bye-bye. No money exchange of course. Minh Chau, Tran Xuan Soan St. Check it out if just to see the purple haired boy and the hairy monster.
I rode down to Ng Thi Thap and lo and behold, had an absolutely fabulous, one of the best BBS experiences ever, at a new place for me. Tell you about it later.
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Yes, just off the junction of Thai Van Lung and Le Than Ton. There is a big Smiley sign so not easy to miss. I was there again this week and did have a game with Mai. The biggest boobs in the place. Simply stunning and I left with a big smile on my face
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey. About VND1. 5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.
The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.[/QUOTE]
Re: the post below, the Minh Chau HJ, BJ place described below on Tran Xuan Soan St in D7 is not near the Lam Van Ben intersection but a bit further down the road to almost under the bridge. The water is on the left, the shops on the right.
Also referred to in the post below is another shop I went into to inquire but did not try out. The number is 255 Tran Xuan Soan and it's called Thien Son (see description below) and massage is 70k. It also has real haircut, hairwash etc. in addition to cute girls in pink shorty outfits but not sure about extras so would somebody please go and check it out and post the results. Joe? Suds? And please, no matter what you do there with the girl, don't give her more than 100k on top of the 70k for the house!
[QUOTE=Johndao]Re: the post below, the Minh Chau HJ, BJ place described below on Tran Xuan Soan St in D7 is not near the Lam Van Ben intersection but a bit further down the road to almost under the bridge. The water is on the left, the shops on the right.
Also referred to in the post below is another shop I went into to inquire but did not try out. The number is 255 Tran Xuan Soan and it's called Thien Son (see description below) and massage is 70k. It also has real haircut, hairwash etc. in addition to cute girls in pink shorty outfits but not sure about extras so would somebody please go and check it out and post the results. Joe? Suds? And please, no matter what you do there with the girl, don't give her more than 100k on top of the 70k for the house![/QUOTE]
Funny! I was cruising around on my motor windowshopping that area the other day. I noticed some indecisive and desparate looking guy up and down the street. Was it you? (only joking) :)
In fact I was inspecting a cafe (hoping that to be a cafe om) completely opposite side of HCMC from your hunting ground in D7. Nguyen Huu Canh towards Cau Saigon. there are some cafes on the left. Some time ago I was there quite innocently for a ca phe sua da, and I noticed a girl there smiling and eyeing at me. Since then I was suspecting this place for a possible cafe om.
I went there last Sunday to check. 2 young girls in bright coloured shorts with some makeups were serving. I was sipping a ca phe sua da, After some minutes, one of the girl (less pretty one) suddenly sat next to me. I said to myself, "I'm on". But being a shy guy (yes, me) I could not go straight to the point. I was not sure if she was expecting me to say "it". It was a missed opportunity. In restropect, there was nothing to lose in just enquiring. Sorry guys, I must go again to check it out, definitely!
Also on the Ng Chi Thanh triangle for FLs, there are many there. I stopped for one who looked pretty from a distance, but up close, she looked sickly so I passed. Another girl (woman) on a bike approched me offering a service for 300K all inclusive. She's got a D cup. But again it's not my type, too old, probably mid to late 30's. The thought of that makes me shiver. So I passed. Another occasion, 2 girls on the bike stopped in front of me, both looked young (20 to 24) and pretty, offering me for mot tram (100). I was not sure they meant 100K VND or 100 USD. So I passed.
Sorry guys, I am not good am I?
Don't be silly Joe, you are good. Something about cafes in Vietnam, they often employ attractive young girls to sell coffee and chat with customers. That's their job, so you can go there alone and have someone nice to talk to if you want. Not cafe om.- in fact, most cafes have some girls there to talk to. In cafe om, the girls will be aggressive, they will let you know there is om+cafe, don't worry. They tell you clearly because otherwise you may think it's just like every other cafe where a girl sits next to you and chats.
If you see a cafe and it is quite open to the street, and there are many, many chairs outside and inside, it's not cafe om. Cafe om will have just a few chairs, not many, and they are often longer and narrower buildings, leading to the back area.
I had a reason to be up in Go Vap recently, I rarely go there, it's too far. But it's where there is lots of action. On the way to my destination in the early afternoon I took note of what looked like a likely cafe om and popped in on my way back. It's at 347 Phan Van Tri St. There were 2 girls working there and a manager. Just a long narrow place with a few chairs and cement floor, fans, little tables, it's pretty rough. One girl was not too attractive but friendly, about a 6. 5. The other was younger and cuter, not as friendly, maybe a 7. 5. They made it very clear there was massage area in the back. Funny, there was! Actual massage tables in a large, very large area, I can't call it a room. Two tables, separated by a curtain. Just 100k for the coffee and the BJ. No more, that's all. It was ok, a way to relax and get some energy for the drive back. I hate going all the way out there. Too bad so many places have had to move out of central Saigon to Go Vap, Tan Binh and Binh Thanh. It's a pain to go out there. But I have my favorite places still pretty central.
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[QUOTE=Johndao]Don't be silly Joe, you are good. Something about cafes in Vietnam, they often employ attractive young girls to sell coffee and chat with customers. That's their job, so you can go there alone and have someone nice to talk to if you want. Not cafe om.- in fact, most cafes have some girls there to talk to. In cafe om, the girls will be aggressive, they will let you know there is om+cafe, don't worry. They tell you clearly because otherwise you may think it's just like every other cafe where a girl sits next to you and chats.
If you see a cafe and it is quite open to the street, and there are many, many chairs outside and inside, it's not cafe om. Cafe om will have just a few chairs, not many, and they are often longer and narrower buildings, leading to the back area.
I had a reason to be up in Go Vap recently, I rarely go there, it's too far. But it's where there is lots of action. On the way to my destination in the early afternoon I took note of what looked like a likely cafe om and popped in on my way back. It's at 347 Phan Van Tri St. There were 2 girls working there and a manager. Just a long narrow place with a few chairs and cement floor, fans, little tables, it's pretty rough. One girl was not too attractive but friendly, about a 6. 5. The other was younger and cuter, not as friendly, maybe a 7. 5. They made it very clear there was massage area in the back. Funny, there was! Actual massage tables in a large, very large area, I can't call it a room. Two tables, separated by a curtain. Just 100k for the coffee and the BJ. No more, that's all. It was ok, a way to relax and get some energy for the drive back. I hate going all the way out there. Too bad so many places have had to move out of central Saigon to Go Vap, Tan Binh and Binh Thanh. It's a pain to go out there. But I have my favorite places still pretty central.
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Hehe I actually been there a few times too, the girls not the prettiest but certainly a quick cheap RELIEF ;-)
I usually get a not too bad massage from them before the action too ;-)
I like Phan Van Tri as there are quite a few of these places there (well actually quite ALOT lol!) and when the sun goes down you will see lots of girls sitting at the doors so it's quite pleasant to drive up and down a few times to view ;-)
last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.
upon going into this hotel and up to the top floor this year, imagine my surprise when i found out that both top two floors had been turned over to the massage parlor. it seems that is the only thing making money in the place! lol
imagine also, my shock, to find the parlor totally redone. individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. imagine also my shock to find that the massage girls actually give you a bath. amazing. good.
they still have glass doors, and they still have a curtain hanging down over the door with a cloth tied around it at the bottom, so that anyone coming by can have a look inside. noone has come by yet and looked, and today was my 3rd time being in there in the last 12 days.
also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol
anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?
thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out!
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[quote=hardlock1]last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.
also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol
anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?
thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out![/quote]thanks for the detailed report hardlock and sure hope your back feels better. or maybe not so the family will allow you out more often ;-)
i think the street name is nguyen kiem, not khem or khim as in the reports, is it right? i would guess that the vip deal would not be about services but probably a better, bigger room, nicer bath, maybe the best girls, etc.
so the sauna, bath, massage, etc. is 100k. what did you tip for bj? did she make demands first or try to negotiate a price for hj, bj, etc? what did you tip for hj?
i want to try it out, but the reason i ask is because for me nothing is a boner shrinker like a girl trying to negotiate a price while i am trying to enjoy myself. it just sets me off, i get a bad temper, tell them off, it ruins the whole atmosphere for me and i usually just get up and walk out, unless it is very fast and they accept my offer of 'binh thuong' which means normal. i'm not a blue balls type of guy and i usually don't like hj only without bj so it is very worthless to me, monetarily (hj is something i can do for myself) and i won't talk or offer any money for it, ever. i'll tip what i want afterward, of course. it is a normal part of massage in asia. only problem is the girls have learned that westerners particularly, regard it as some kind of 'extra' for which they pay handsomely and not just another appendage to be rubbed. that's the way it is in our countries. otherwise i'll just skip hj or bj and enjoy the bath and massage and give them a small but reasonable tip like 50k.
sorry to go on and on about it. that's me, i have my places that are just perfect for me but i'm always looking for something else as well. thanks for any more info on the routine there. it sounds like fun. i've never had a massage girl bathe me here in vn.
The MP I am reporting on here is in District 1, Dakao Ward. That's the bottom line of the 'L' shape of D1, bordered by Binh Thanh, D3 and Phu Nhuan Districts. If you want to go there it is less than 1km from the US Consulate on Le Duan St, so don't panic! I have 4 HCMC maps and this small street is only on one of them, and then in initials. My map has it as HK Ninh which stands for Huynh Khuong Ninh. It's between Dinh Tien Hoang and Phan Liem streets and between Dien Bien Phu and Vo Thi Sau streets. The name of the place is Que Trang and it's on the south side of the street.
I have my places I like for mass/BJ as you know and the routine is always the same, so that's what I am looking for in a new place. A gaggle of girls hanging inside a closed door place, wearing brightly colored, skimpy, easy access matching outfits. The young woman who seems to be the manager was in the courtyard for bike parking and was friendly and attractive. I asked the price of massage and she told me it was 70k (the usual in other words). I went inside and was not overly impressed with the selection so I chose an attractive tallish, light-skinned woman, older than the others, I'd say 34 or so. She was polite and led me to the back area.
As soon as we went into the small curtained off cubicle are, I knew something was different. This place was quite clean and fresh, the AC was on, there was a clean sheet on the massage table, I saw candles and some potpouri. In these places one only takes off shirt and shoes and lies on the table. She did quite a competent massage on both sides, for a short time, maybe 10 minutes. She was ok. She undid my pants and started to massage my cock without question or comment. I pulled up her shirt, felt her small tits and saw them too. Everything normal so far. I slipped my hand into her panties and fingered her a little bit and was surprised at her wetness, she was lubed! She got out the wet towel. . . and then the problems became obvious. Instead of using the wet towel to clean my dick and surrounding areas before tongue bath and BJ as usual, she layed it on my belly without wiping. Bad news, that says to me HJ, not BJ. Remember, I just wandered into this place, never been there before, no recommendation. Also, I hate the feel of a cold wet towel on my belly, especially when the ac is on. Boner shrinker. Using my subtlest Vietnamese phrase I told her, "Thoi di". Thoi means blow and di is the command word to do something. In other words -- 'blow me'.
Big, big problem now as she asked me how much I'll give her to blow me. I answered 'binh thuong' (normal) and she asked how much is normal. I told her the same as every other place I go to get BJ's. Again, how much is that she asked. My blood is starting to boil now, the atmosphere nearly ruined. I told her 100k and when she scoffed that that's what she gets for HJ, BJ she gets 200k, I told her well, not from me. I just hate this scene and try to avoid it all costs. That's why I love the good places, but it's hard to find new ones, have to try them out, trial and error. Anyway, I am up in a flash, get my shirt on, my shoes on, keys from my pocket. I walk out to the front counter, really she is quite stunned but I don't care now, I'm pissed and not in the mood. I drop 100k on the counter (You have to pay the house, not their fault really) and there was 30k more for her 12 minutes. I'm outta there!
Now, I am not panning this place and telling you not to go there. It's an ok place and will please many of you, particularly those of you who think a quick BJ in an upstairs room at a HBT bar is a great deal for 500k. Or you guys who can't find anything but a massage place where they coerce you into 200-300k for a Hand Job.
Somebody else please try it out and post a report, including price paid and for what. Again, it's an ok place, just not for me, not the way I like to do it.
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Yes, Johndao,
I spelled the street name wrong, as is my habit sometimes. It comes from getting old, being a senior citizen, or just plain having a semi-comatose brain! Ha ha ha ha The girl I saw was named Thuy. Cute, no tits to speak of, but sweeter than Honey on Ice Cream. The first two times, the tip I paid was 200k. And the last time, the tip I gave her was 300k. Now, before you go off on me, John, please let me say that it was the first time in Vietnam, ever, going back to 1965, that I have ever had my ass and balls reamed from the back. Oh hell, being an old salesman, I truly love a great performance. LOL Point taken?
And no, nothing was negotiated before hand. She just decided she liked me, kept on hugging me, and did her thing! Of course, I did ask for the BJ, cause their standard fare is HJ. Can't be shy in those places. You have to ask, thats for sure. And no, I don't think anyone blames you for walking out of that place. Never, never ever reward [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor behavior. Never! Good Man!
H
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Not finding a Minh Tanh hotel but I am finding a Thanh Minh hotel on Bui Thi Xuan but that is a little way from the War Museum. street address?[/QUOTE]It's the Minh Tam hotel, 2C Le Quy Don, opposite the War Museum.
Hi guys, I'm back in VN ! I visited the FESTIVAL massage parlour today (not been there for a long while) and the only thing that has changed is the is no longer any free parking, which is not a big problem (it is only 3k vnd). Anyway, entrance fee was 110k (massage) and 70k (foot massage), I tipped the foot massage person 50k and tipped the gorgeous girl that I got 100k (massage, handjob, grope tits, finger right inside her) so all in all only 330k which I think is very reasonable including foot massage, without it would have only cost 210k all in.
Anyway, since I have not been for absolutely ages I did not know any of the girls tag numbers so I just asked for a beautiful slim girl, and that's what I got! Her name is LIEU, 23years old, 1metre57 (tall for VN girl), 46kg weight. Her tag number is NUMBER 1 for anyone who wants to try her. When I was in the lounge I heard quite a few guys asking if NUMBER 6 was available, but they were told she was busy with a customer already, so I did not see her but I'd imagine she is ok looking as it was local vietnamese that was asking for her (3 customers in total asked for her that I heard).
Well hope this info is good for someone on here, oh and I have Lieu's number if anyone wishes to get it as she is willing to be a TOUR GUIDE she says, as long as the customer pays for everything obviously lol!
Yo people. How are ya?
I would appreciate some of you commenting here as I really need direction.
I am going to two areas oh HMC (called Tan-Phu and Tan-Binh).
I have "critical & limiting" needs when looking for a place with girls.
WHAT I DO WANT:
1) A place only local/close to the Tan-Phu/Tan-Binh area.
2) A place where servicing is in a back room (convenient "in & out" stop).
3) A place that does not require me to take the girl to a second spot (hotel).
3) A place with extra young girls (small, thin, under-aged-looking).
4) A place that does not require holding my Visa & Passports.
WHAT I DO NOT WANT:
1) Paying yet more money for a taxi (to a far away place).
2) Paying yet more money for a hotel.
3) Giving someone (like a hotel or pimp) my passport or visa.
4) Going somewhere where dangerous locals or the police could be waiting.
I also, I do not have much time for these visits. I can't do all day affairs.
I don't even care about massages, drinks or chit-chat. I want to control sex.
I want to guide her body, finger her anus, get sucked & give her a fuck.
I am doing this while in VN with the wife. This is why I need "close & fast".
Am I hoping for too much? If so, what are some close alternatives? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Riki Riki]Yo people. How are ya?
I would appreciate some of you commenting here as I really need direction.
I am going to two areas oh HMC (called Tan-Phu and Tan-Binh).
I have "critical & limiting" needs when looking for a place with girls.
WHAT I DO WANT:
1) A place only local/close to the Tan-Phu/Tan-Binh area.
2) A place where servicing is in a back room (convenient "in & out" stop).
3) A place that does not require me to take the girl to a second spot (hotel).
3) A place with extra young girls (small, thin, under-aged-looking).
4) A place that does not require holding my Visa & Passports.
WHAT I DO NOT WANT:
1) Paying yet more money for a taxi (to a far away place).
2) Paying yet more money for a hotel.
3) Giving someone (like a hotel or pimp) my passport or visa.
4) Going somewhere where dangerous locals or the police could be waiting.
I also, I do not have much time for these visits. I can't do all day affairs.
I don't even care about massages, drinks or chit-chat. I want to control sex.
I want to guide her body, finger her anus, get sucked & give her a fuck.
I am doing this while in VN with the wife. This is why I need "close & fast".
Am I hoping for too much? If so, what are some close alternatives? Thanks![/QUOTE]
Read the forum and you will find that you cannot make Saigon fit what you want - you have to go with the flow a bit.
Hi guys, just to add a report to my return to Viet Nam, I already posted one a couple of days ago about FESTIVAL.
Well last night I fancied a quickie/bj so went down Phan Van Tri, I didn't get the number of the shop but there is quite a few there heading from Go Vap to Binh Thanh on the right hand side just before the bridge.
Prices is still the same as a few years ago, well I didn't ask price, I just acted like I knew. I got a CIM BJ, body massage, licked all over with her tongue, I groped and poked her (with my finger) aswell. At the end I gave 100k tip (which INCLUDES the mama/entrance/customer fee aswell. ALL IN)
could you possibly gotten the address wrong? i took a drive down nguyen kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.
[quote=hardlock1]last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.
upon going into this hotel and up to the top floor this year, imagine my surprise when i found out that both top two floors had been turned over to the massage parlor. it seems that is the only thing making money in the place! lol
imagine also, my shock, to find the parlor totally redone. individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. imagine also my shock to find that the massage girls actually give you a bath. amazing. good.
they still have glass doors, and they still have a curtain hanging down over the door with a cloth tied around it at the bottom, so that anyone coming by can have a look inside. noone has come by yet and looked, and today was my 3rd time being in there in the last 12 days.
also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol
anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?
thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out!
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[QUOTE=Trick Or Treat]Could you possibly gotten the address wrong? I took a drive down Nguyen Kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.[/QUOTE]The Thanh Nhgia is on the LEFT side of Nguyen KIEM (Phu Nhuan District) which is one way at that point. It's number 567, NOT 568 as reported, it's big and hard to miss. See my map with arrow, attached. Nguyen Kiem is a continuation of Hai Ba Trung St which changes name twice on the way up.
I read two of Hardluck's recent reports on this place and decided to try it out one afternoon, mainly because I liked the idea of a cute girl giving me a bath. As any of you may know from earlier posts, I am not much of a HJ kind of guy, but if the mood and massage and girl are right, it's pretty good.
I arrived a bit after midday and parked in the underground of the hotel. It was deserted. Someone gave me ticket and showed me the stairs to the lobby. I took a very small and very slow elevator to the 5th floor. There was a boy (very young man) there, a small table and a sign in Vietnamese reading 200k for VIP room massage and 100k for regular room massage. I asked him the difference between the rooms and he said the VIP was for 2 hours. I asked again about any room differences and he thought and said the room was bigger. Anyway, I went for the 100k.
He led me just across the hall to the first room, went in, turned on the lights and ac and he ran the bath and left. The room was small but not too small, with a professional style massage table covered in a clean sheet. There was a large wardrobe for clothes and a TV and TV stand which held many towels. The bathroom had a large square shaped tub, a sink, and a glass enclosed sauna area with a high plastic stool inside. It was clean and modern and all looked recently done. The room door was glass and had a full length curtain covering it, but this was tied in a knot at the bottom. Same for the door to the bathroom.
The boy had given me a large towel and indicated I should disrobe and wrap myself in it. I didn't do that as I usually don't follow instructions people give me in these kinds of places (same for Dr offices, I never put on the gown before the Dr comes in). I turned on the TV and changed channels till I found an interesting tennis match and stood there and watched it while the bath ran. I was thinking that the previous poster mentioned Thuy and she sounded great. If I felt the girl who would enter was not to my liking, I decided I would ask if Thuy was available. After what seemed like a very long time, Ngoc came in.
Ngoc was tall and white and a had a friendly smile. She was wearing a typical white massage girl outfit, short skirt exposing pale and rather full, shapely legs. Her obviously large breasts were creating quite a triangle effect in her shirt as well. Her face was pretty and she had kind of pushed-back teeth, small and straight, like Jackie O, that's how I think of those kind of teeth. She seemed friendly enough, and she certainly was pretty, so off we go.
I took off all my clothes, placed them in the closet, wrapped the towel around me and went to the bath. I asked her what was the routine and she said to get in and bathe! I asked if she was going to come in with me and she said no. I asked if she was going to wash me, and she said no, it's not allowed here. I told her my friend was here and a girl washed him in the bath and she said no. I asked if she could just wash my back then and she said no. I asked if she could wash my hair and she said no. So she gave me soap and I got in the tub and she went out to stand by the room door, the front door. So I'm sitting in the tub and feeling stupid. After all, who wants to take a bath? What's the point of a bath? If I want to get clean, I take a shower. If I want to relax, I may take a bath. But I am not paying to relax alone in a bathtub. And I did not want a sauna either. So I stood up and took a shower, washed myself, washed my hair, dried off and went out.
I lay face down on the massage table and Ngoc massaged my back. She's 24, from a Delta province and has been in the city for 7 months. Her massage is ok, not great, but ok. I really just like back and especially neck and shoulder massage as my neck and shoulders get very hard and my tension goes there. I am relaxing and she sits on my back and then further down on my legs and rubs me. After 10 mins or so of this I become aware that she is doing a short, weak rhythmic motion of massaging my lower legs from ankle to knee. She's just lightly squeezing my legs and moving up to the knee and back to the ankle, again and again, for a long time. It's worthless as far as massage goes. Then I notice something else, the thwack, thwack sound of the tennis balls being batted has morphed into the sound of Vietnamese people talking. I turn my head around and yes, it's true, she's watching TV. Now the TV is mostly behind the massage table so she has to crane her neck around about 120 degrees to see it! She's doing that pathetic little, weak, time-wasting routine up and down my legs because it's mindless, she's watching a soap opera! I told her to turn off the TV, and she did.
She proceeds now with somewhat more concentration, but a not especially competent massage. After a while I am on my back. She does some circular things so her hands brush my balls, brush my limp dick. She does all this fast, not sensually, she keeps touching my dick for a second and then sweeping her hands around my legs or chest. After a while she grabs it and it responds. Not a HJ, just brief rub or jerk followed by release and moving her hands around. It's ok, it feels good, I am erect. I look at her and she looks good. I squeeze her ass and it's solid, firm, round, two really amazing buns. Her face smiling at me is sexy. I tell her to blow me and she says she can't here. She's jerking my dick now. I ask her what about climbing on top and slipping it in, past her shorts. She says can't here. I ask her what about outside, at a hotel. She says, ok, she's free everyday from 6:30 am to 11:00 am and then she starts work at the hotel at noon. We can do everything, she'll give me her mobile number. Ok, she asks if she should continue massaging my dick and I say no. I roll over and tell her to massage my back, which she does weakly.
Forty-five minutes total has passed now, I'm kind of fed up with this, I get up and dress very quickly. She asks, you're going early? Yes, I am busy I say. She hands me the tip sheet, I write 50k. She says no, 100k. I say if you want 100k for a massage then you shouldn't watch TV while massaging weakly and poorly (nghe nghe, massa sau). She said, 'ok, em hieu' (I understand). I went out and gave the guy 200k and he said thanks and walked away. Then Ngoc said no to the guy, he has to give me 50k change. The guy looked surprised but did not comment, then gave me 50k. I walked down 5 flights 'cause that elevator scares me.
As Hardluck said in his earlier report, he had a good time but don't expect the same good experience as he had. That turn out to have been an excellent prediction. Maybe it just depends on the girl, the customer, the time of day, who knows. What do we learn about prices? As the boy took 200k, 100k for the house and 100k for her, he seemed to say that was normal. So if you go there and have an ok time, they would just get 100k as a tip. The boy wouldn't know what happened in the room. But he would assume the standard Asian Massage happy ending.
As for Ngoc, she really did not seem to care much. Perhaps her early morning activity is far more lucrative and the massage is just the way to meet customers. Maybe she had just come from an early morning hotel liaison in which she earned enough for the day, was tired and did not care about the potential 100k or 200k or whatever from me. I didn't take her number or talk money about outside activities.
I really want to go to a place where the girl bathes you. An earlier post mentioned a place in Thu Duc but without details on location. Anybody?
See map for location of Thanh Nghia. 567 Nguyen Kiem, Phu Nhuan District.
JD
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Yeah 568 seems to be down GO VAP end of NG Kiem aswell, not Phu Nhuan. I can't seem to find it either
[QUOTE=Trick Or Treat]Could you possibly gotten the address wrong? I took a drive down Nguyen Kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2234]Yeah 568 seems to be down GO VAP end of NG Kiem aswell, not Phu Nhuan. I can't seem to find it either[/QUOTE]
The address of the massage place in Phu Nhuan is 567. If you're coming from Hai Ba Trung, head toward Go Vap, it will be on your left hand side before the Saigon Coop Supermarket.
[QUOTE=Johndao]
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I really want to go to a place where the girl bathes you. An earlier post mentioned a place in Thu Duc but without details on location. Anybody?
See map for location of Thanh Nghia. 567 Nguyen Kiem, Phu Nhuan District.
JD
[/QUOTE]
Re: Nguyen Kiem hotel massa
I have been to this place a long time ago, well before this bathing thing came along. I have had an "intimate" laison with one girl from there for some time now. In fact she sent me a few SMS yesterday, saying "Anh nhớ em không".
These girls are very good at playing the mind game with men.
As for a place in Thu Duc, do you mean this place (see pic below); Health Club? There is a post about this place in the past. It is on Nguyen Van Ba that runs parallel to the main road. The picture was taken from this main road; hence a little obscured. Do Google Maps for "ho chi minh city, nguyen van ba" and move around the map to direct yourself from the city centre.
It was a year ago when I went there. So maybe my info is out of date. I asked for a VIP service, but it was not available. So I had to opt for just a massa. Thủy came in. She was so tiny that she just hop on to my back and provided a very good massa. I said I want more than a HJ, but she could not do so at the premises, but she could in a hotel nearby after work, and wanted 100USD. Well I would not come here all the way at midnight and pay 100USD. So I just had a HJ while fingering her wet c**t. On the way out, I saw 6, 7 tourist looking people in the VIP room. Not sure though what VIP service included.
Johndao,
I wanted to clear something up for you, and for any of the guys who want to go to Thanh Nghia for a massage.
First of all, Thuy explained to me that there was no more "tips" given to the house there. No longer do you have to write the amount of your tip on her tip-sheet. The tip negotiated goes directly into her pocket inside the room. Papasan either gets his 100k or VIP 200k and that is it.
Now, having said that, the other day, I went back there looking for Thuy. And isn't it strange? Thuy says she is 24. John, your girl said she was 24. Thuy wasnt in the day I went, but my back hurt like hell, so I opted for the VIP service, because I had promised myself to see what it was about.
I went up to the 6th floor. All the same. Room exactly a carbon copy of the 5th floor. In walks a girl named Trinh. She says she is 24. Amazing. Anyway, I asked her to bathe me. She politely declined. Okay. No sweat. I got on the table, and she literally beat the hell outta me. Cracked my back like crazy, gave me the hardest massage I have had in a while. All very theraputic.
Finally, we got around to the happy ending part, and yes, she informed me that if I wanted a BJ, it would cost me a million dong. LOL I politely declined. She asked me if I wanted to pay 400k for a HJ, and I politely declined. At that point, I lost all interest. Finally, when she was faced with having to finish the rest of the two hours without a tip, she offered 300k and I laughed in her face. She took offense at first, then finally started to laugh. She made it clear that she understood I wasnt a stupid-horny Ong My. LOL
Finally, after about an hour of that bullshit, I got up and put on my clothes. Her face fell about a half a mile down toward the floor. She asked me if I didn't like her, and I told her no, I didn't. Then she did a strange thing. She took my hand, pulled aside her pants, and put my hand right on her dripping pussy. My gosh, it was literally dripping. Now John, maybe you know, but I don't. I dunno if she was trying to explain that I should have negotiated some more, or just what. I am perplexed about it. LOL And, I miss the hell outta Thuy.
No, the VIP room isn't worth it. Don't do it. And oh, by the way. I hope I didn't mess it up for any of the rest of you guys, but before I left, I did give her a 100k note. Not that I was rewarding bad behavior, but you never know. Someday, maybe next year, she will come walking into a room where I am laying on the table, and remember that I am not a bad guy, and definitely not an asshole. I guess I have a soft heart. These girls titillate us, scintillate us, ejaculate us, and just plain gets-us-off. In Viet society, they still do pay the price for that. I guess it is just my nature to give a little back. Never hurts. No, she wasnt Thuy, but no, she also wasnt Dracula in Drag, either.
Now, please all you guys understand. Thuy didn't bathe me the first time, either. Also, she didn't use her mouth and lips the first time, either. Only on my second visit did she hug me, tickle me, offer to go with me to a boom-boom hotel any time I liked. The second visit, I knew something was gonna happen when she didn't use the baby oil for the massage. You know, when you let those girls use baby oil during the massage, you can forget BJ. They won't do it, as they don't have condoms in there. Okay?
Now, on my 3rd visit with Miss Thuy, it was just gosh-almighty mind blowing. She finally asked me my age. I told her. LOL I tried to explain that if she put a birthday candle on a cake for each year of my life, and light them all up, she would burn her damn house down. LOL, when she heard sao muoi hai tuoi, she literally got weak at the knees, and her face got this honest to god startled look. Hell, I thought she might start to run away or something. Then, she started to laugh, reached down, and kissed my cock, right on the head! LOL Then she looked at me, looked at my cock, and raised her arm and put her fingers around her wrist, and started to laugh again! I guess in her way, she was trying to pay me a compliment! LOL
This is my 3rd year going to that hotel massage parlor. They all know me, and hell, I would suppose they all know that I live only a 5 minute walk away. But I do know, if you are a regular customer, you don't have to worry about Papasan coming around to check and look through the door. Never happens. Now, I even tip him also, because he likes to think that he and I are good friends! Hell, if he is gonna let me get away with the brutal murder I am doing with Thuy in that room, he can damn sure be my friend forever. LOL
I apologize for the mistake in the address number for the hotel. My fault. But, again, I AM getting old. LOL
Thank you guys
Happy hunting
H is out
Johndao, P.S. I forgot to tell you. Thuy got no tits to speak of, but my gosh, she is ripe. The 3rd visit, I made her tell me what all we could do in the boom boom hotel. She said everything. So I inquired about DATY, if she liked that. Thats when I got the shocker of my young life! LOL She jumped up on the massage table, opened her legs, pulled her shorts and panties aside, and grabbed me and pulled my head down there! LOL Oh well, as you might not know, I am an old Southern Boy. LOL Where I come from, it is most impolite to keep a lady waiting. Ha ha ha ha ha
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Joe Nailer,
i have been in this place about half a dozen of time, last year alone, but each time i was asked for VIP the same answer "we do not have VIP". Base on a 411 of a member of this board they do have VIP, but i never offered once, even i do look like a BIG BOSS but the answer still do not have, i guess it's true that they don't have VIP suite at all. I do like Thủy too, but a lot of time i requested Thúy Kiều, she look average but have has a nice smile. you're 100% right Joe Nailer, these girls are good playing mind game with men, i still not get Thúy Kiều come to my hotel yet, after all those times and $$$. Have fun and play safe.
[QUOTE=Johndao]If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. It's not thrilling, it's not the greatest, but it's an ok way to spend a little time, a little money and see the real VN (and cum too)! The place (and there are many many more like it but I will describe 1 place and 1 girl and 1 experience. Go to Lam Van Ben St. in District 7. It's very close to D1 and D4 for those of you with a great fear of leaving the city center. Lam Van Ben runs north-south between Tran Xuan Soan and Nguyen Thi Thap which are parallel East-west roads. Go to a little cafe, number 178a closer to Ng Thi Thap, on the right side heading south.[/quote]Dear Johndao,
Apologies, newbie here to the forum. Have been in HCM for 2 months but not been out of dist 1, 10 and 3 much. Will be around in HCM for the rest of the year though.
I went to the above mentioned today, but sadly couldn't find it. I'd managed to only find 179 Lam Van Ben st though. Have no idea where 178a is, after walking around for quite a bit. Did see alot of people fishing at a pond beside the road though.
Perhaps you could point this lost bloke in the right direction please?
Many thanks
[QUOTE=Ashen]Dear Johndao,
Apologies, newbie here to the forum. Have been in HCM for 2 months but not been out of dist 1, 10 and 3 much. Will be around in HCM for the rest of the year though.
I went to the above mentioned today, but sadly couldn't find it. I'd managed to only find 179 Lam Van Ben st though. Have no idea where 178a is, after walking around for quite a bit. Did see alot of people fishing at a pond beside the road though.
Perhaps you could point this lost bloke in the right direction please?
Many thanks[/QUOTE]Ashen, It is further south down that road, past the fishing place. On your right. And now there are two places next to one another. There is a third cafe (first as you head south) with a very cute young girl working selling coffee but only that, normal cafe. The ones I am talking about are next door nearly to the Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. When you walk past them the girls will beckon you to come in. I mark them approximately only on the map attached.
These places are nothing great so don't get too excited. On Nguyen Thi Thap you will find many many BBS doing massa/BJ for 100-150k total. Look for places with doors that are usually smoked white tinted and that have signs like Hot Toc, May Lanh. If it's open and you can look inside and see barbers, it's just haircut. Near the Lam Van Ben intersection go left or right and you will see many, they are all (almost all) on the north side of the street.
JD
On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area. I slowed down and look the both side of the street. I noticed an old woman (around 40) at a hot toc place waving at me when I just drove passed it. I continued on till the junction and turned right into Ung Van Khiem Street. (On Google Maps, enter “ho chi minh city, ung van khiem”)
I was still going slowly. Amongst god knows everything, I noticed a few small cafes at the both sides of the road. They looked suspicious. Very suspicious. I made a mental note of these places and drove on. I turned around at the point where the street become less busy, and drove back down the same road towards the point I started.
I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.
I picked one of them and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.
She (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Ashen, It is further south down that road, past the fishing place. On your right. And now there are two places next to one another. There is a third cafe (first as you head south) with a very cute young girl working selling coffee but only that, normal cafe. The ones I am talking about are next door nearly to the Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. When you walk past them the girls will beckon you to come in. I mark them approximately only on the map attached.
JD[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the prompt aid Johndao,
Will look for them when I can.
I'm holed up in q1 and it seems all the good action is further away though.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Joe Nailer]On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area.
I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.
I picked one of them (No.164 UVK?) and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl Nhung greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.
Nhung (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.[/QUOTE]Good job Joe! I'll check it out. Try to do it for 100k. All the places like this on Phan Van Tri will do it for 100k. Maybe proximity to wealthier areas makes it more expensive? Don't know. Would Nhung let you take pics?
Hey Joe, do you want to do a girl together? I mean like one in her mouth and one in her ass or pussy and then switch? Really wear her out and get great pics as well.
JD
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]Last year, I wrote about a place in Phu Nhuan, a Hotel, that had Massage on the top floor. If you look back to last March, you will see my report there.
Imagine also, my shock, to find the Parlor totally redone. Individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. [b]Imagine also my shock to find that the Massage Girls actually give you a bath.[/b] Amazing. Good.[/QUOTE]Hey Hardlock,
Don't worry, we don't hold any poster responsible for our good time based on posts here. Someone may have a good time and someone else not so good at any place. Scene, girls, prices, attitudes are never consistent. We are just trying to give one another the benefits of what we have learned through our explorations, to save others time, effort and money.
I just misunderstood the quote above about the Thanh Nghia in Phu Nhuan. I thought it meant that the massage girls there actually give you a bath, when in fact, they don't. But I am hoping they do somewhere else and that I can find it!
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Good job Joe! I'll check it out. Try to do it for 100k. All the places like this on Phan Van Tri will do it for 100k. Maybe proximity to wealthier areas makes it more expensive? Don't know. Would Nhung let you take pics?
Hey Joe, do you want to do a girl together? I mean like one in her mouth and one in her ass or pussy and then switch? Really wear her out and get great pics as well.
JD[/QUOTE]
Initially Nhung said 100K, but this greedy b**ch came and said 150K. 50K for cafe sua da, 50K for bla bla bla (in fact for her), and 50K for bla bla bla (for her again!). I know it's rubbish. But additional 50K (3USD or 2 quid) is not much. (I know you should not translate it into your own currency)
No. This area is not any wealthier than any other part in HCMC. It looks more like a shanty town. Because of its proximity to the river with loading wharves for barges, people are I think quite rough. This place can be related to many port towns around the world (London Dockland, Rotterdam, Yokohama etc) having ho houses to serve low ranking sailors and labourers for centuries.
If you can get it for 100K with this woman in PYJAMAS, I owe you a beer or 2 (cheapest one thou ;) ). But try other cafe oms in this area as well so that we can compare.
[QUOTE=Joe Nailer]No. This area is not any wealthier than any other part in HCMC. It looks more like a shanty town. Because of its proximity to the river with loading wharves for barges, people are I think quite rough. This place can be related to many port towns around the world (London Dockland, Rotterdam, Yokohama etc) having ho houses to serve low ranking sailors and labourers for centuries.
If you can get it for 100K with this woman in PYJAMAS, I owe you a beer or 2 (cheapest one thou ;) ). But try other cafe oms in this area as well so that we can compare.[/QUOTE]Read Joe Nailer's report yesterday, had some time to spare just after lunch and decided to have a look see.
Excellent directions given by Joe Nailer. Went to the same cafe as Joe Nailer did (Not hard to spot from the striped jersey backs on its chairs) though I must say that further down the street, there were lots of variety in the other cafes, to choose from.
Lady in PJs asked for a 100k initially, but after realizing I was a foreigner (japanese) she suddenly increased to 150k. Managed to haggle it down to 120k though.
My con gai was just above 18, approaching 19, a little chubby and cherubic. Decent titties with really light coloured nips.
After some teasing and groping, initiated for me to move towards the back room. Pulled up her top, took off her bra and dropped her shorts and panties for me to fondle whilst she gave a toothy but very keen BBBJ.
Would have preferred someone a little older with more technique though, but whatever this girl lacked in the skill department, she made up with her enthusiasm. But alas, I couldn't respond to her oral coaxing. The lady in PJs was already banging on the door after 25mins. I gave up, tipped the girl 10k which she appreciated with a hug and peck on the cheek and left.
Feeling still frustrated, I headed further down the street (a minute's walk to 178UVK) to a hotel MP hoping to get proper relief. 80K ticket with a HJ tip of 100k. No BBBJ from this MP though.
Will be trying the rest of the cafes down the street soon.
Cheers
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Hi guys, today I decided to go to Thanh Nghia on Ng Kiem to see what it is all about. As the older members of this forum that have met me and know me they will know that although I am not Vietnamese I do speak very fluent Vietnamese, so I found out all the correct prices/ins & outs etc. of the place.
OK so I went there at lunchtime today, when you go in and say to the reception MASSA he takes you to a lift and presses the fifth floor button for you. Once you reach fifth floor another reception greets you and asks if you want NORMAL or VIP room. Normal being 100k and VIP being 200k, BOTH rooms are the same, Normal is for 1 hour and VIP is for 2 hours.
Normal service the girl is not supposed to bathe you, VIP service the girls job is to bathe you (so if she don't then DEMAND).
I only went for the Normal service myself, but the massage girl told me all the rules etc. and explained the VIP service as I asked her.
I bathed myself, got a good massage, HJ at the end, got to grope and finger her, tipped 100k at the end (that is standard tip for local Vietnamese, I am not Vietnamese but I speak the language and I am Asian so they think I am local). She told me normal tip price for locals if taking the VIP service is 200k as it is double time.
All in all the service was ok, but only DOWN point compared to the likes of FESTIVAL etc. is the steam room and bath is in the room, so another words if you want to spend half an hour in the steam room then that gets deducted off your 1hr room service.
Well hope this info helps.
EDIT: oh forgot to say, as for tipping, it is the same as all other places, you write the tip amount on the piece of paper the girl gives you, no money is exchanged in the room to the girl, if the girl told anyone that then she is just ripping the company off as for every 100k he gets tipped (on paper) she has to give 30k to the company (so she only gets 70k tip)
Anyone know of good places in Da Lat?
[QUOTE=Riki Riki]Anyone know of good places in Da Lat?[/QUOTE]
There is a thread for other areas and if you use the search function you will find information about massage parlours in the hotels.
This afternoon I spent some time checking out 178A Lam Van Ben as well as a variety of hot tocs on Nguyen Thi Thap. Thanks for the great directions - they were easy to find. Also very easy to get services besides a "hair cut" or straightforward "massage." I wonder if anyone goes there for any reason besides extras.
I was never given a price of 100,000, though I pushed for it. Best I could negotiate at any of these places was 150,000 or 200,000, which was disappointing. I suspect this is all about how much Vietnamese you know. I know almost no Vietnamese, so this naturally put me at a disadvantage in negotiating.
The other disappointment was that none of the ladies had very good technique. Without exception the routine seemed to be a bit of excessively rushed shallow head bobbing, followed by an extremely loud spitting session, followed by a bit more mediocre oral sex, then more spitting, etc. I've gotten blowjobs in a number of different countries and I've never encountered this before. It was pretty comical, actually. And it wasn't just my session or one particular hot toc - I heard loud spitting frequently at several different places coming from several different ladies. I'm not sure I'd hurry back to these places. Is this pretty standard as far as what to expect from HCMC hot tocs? Maybe I should try hair wash places or hot tocs in other parts of town.
I went there a couple days ago since it was a popular place on this forum, I parked my bike in a empty parking lot, walked upstairs then into the lift to the 5th floor, asked about vip and was taken to the 6th floor. The massuest was not very pretty (compared to my usual place) she couldn't speak a word of english (thats usual) She turned on the tv, set it to some soap opera, run the bath (without washing all the dirt and hair from the tub) after I drained it and washed it, refilled and she bathed me in ankle deep water. I noticed the curtains on both doors (entrance and bathroom) are tied together in the middle. I'm not shy so it didn't bother me much, I asked her to close the curtains and she just moved them around a bit.
I lay down on the table and she began the slapping and a halfassed massage.
She then climbed ontop of my back and began the jumping on the spine and cracking my spine. Normally this is fine but the way she was doing it felt like she was jumping and taking great pleasure in causing me discomfort. I told her 5 times to stop and she just laughed like it was a great joke. After the 5th time I rolled over, yelled at her to get out, I got up, she motioned to get another massuest but I was too pissed off by then, I changed and left the room. The attendant/manager come to see what the fuss was about, I told him she was no good, told her 5 times to stop that jumping. All he cared about was the 200k. I had already pushed the button on the lift so it was ready for me to go. I went back to the desk, and continued my explanation. The girl was giggling like it was something great. I directed a couple "duma's" (doh-maa) and other words that wiped the grin off her face.
The guy then started taking me more seriously. He still insisted on paying 200k for probably 15minutes use in the vip room. I tossed a 50k note his way and stormed out into the lift.
I was tempted to workout how much $/min the room was worth but took the lift downstairs and was expecting some resistance but the few guys/attendants saw the look and my body language and stayed far away. The bike attendant reluctantly approached me for my ticket though he did remember me from a few minutes ealier. Gave him my ticket and pulled my own bike out. Hopped on and rode off.
That was the first and only time I will ever go to that massage parlour.
Note that this is my experience, No doubt that others will have had great experiences/times/massages but for me it was the opposite.
I'll stick to my usual spot with bbj beginning ending.
I hope that others will have a better time/experience than I did.
[QUOTE=Member #2234]Hi guys, today I decided to go to Thanh Nghia on Ng Kiem to see what it is all about. As the older members of this forum that have met me and know me they will know that although I am not Vietnamese I do speak very fluent Vietnamese, so I found out all the correct prices/ins & outs etc. of the place.
OK so I went there at lunchtime today, when you go in and say to the reception MASSA he takes you to a lift and presses the fifth floor button for you. Once you reach fifth floor another reception greets you and asks if you want NORMAL or VIP room. Normal being 100k and VIP being 200k, BOTH rooms are the same, Normal is for 1 hour and VIP is for 2 hours.
Normal service the girl is not supposed to bathe you, VIP service the girls job is to bathe you (so if she don't then DEMAND).
I only went for the Normal service myself, but the massage girl told me all the rules etc. and explained the VIP service as I asked her.
I bathed myself, got a good massage, HJ at the end, got to grope and finger her, tipped 100k at the end (that is standard tip for local Vietnamese, I am not Vietnamese but I speak the language and I am Asian so they think I am local). She told me normal tip price for locals if taking the VIP service is 200k as it is double time.
All in all the service was ok, but only DOWN point compared to the likes of FESTIVAL etc. is the steam room and bath is in the room, so another words if you want to spend half an hour in the steam room then that gets deducted off your 1hr room service.
Well hope this info helps.
EDIT: oh forgot to say, as for tipping, it is the same as all other places, you write the tip amount on the piece of paper the girl gives you, no money is exchanged in the room to the girl, if the girl told anyone that then she is just ripping the company off as for every 100k he gets tipped (on paper) she has to give 30k to the company (so she only gets 70k tip)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I went there (Thanh Nghia) a couple days ago since it was a popular place on this forum[/QUOTE]Mik,
I sure hope you did not think I was giving any kind of endorsement to this place. I panned it, said I had a terrible time and left before my time was up. Only Hardluck seems to enjoy, as he likes being beaten roughly there. I surely don't see how you could think Thanh Nghia is a popular place on this forum. That's what the forum is for, to help one another enjoy the good and avoid the bad. Festival is a popular place on this forum although I have never tried it as I am not a big fan of the HJ.
JD
I happened by the cafe om on Lam Van Ben that I wrote about a while back (with map), and saw the girl I had seen on my previous and only visit. Her name is Lieu and I mention this again because I liked her. I went back a few times but did not see anyone interesting. Lieu is noteworthy because 1) she is ok looking 2) she has a good attitude 3) she is hard-working on the BJ (she was for me) 4) she has incredible long nipples and 5) she has insanely long, straight pussy hair.
So if you are ok with down and dirty, semi-public with chickens running around, fan outdoors, have an hour or so and about 120k Dong to spare, check it out.
But don't write back and say I told about some fabulous, cheap BJ place with gorgeous young girls who give awesome BJ. I am not saying that. But I enjoyed my one time there, getting blown by Lieu.
Johndao,
I understand that you were not giving any endorsement out for the TN MP. I like to go experience as many places and make my own mind up, I fully understand one mans favorite place will be another's nightmare. I just had to go experience it for myself. It was a right place (or wrong place) at the right time as I was on a bike ride and happened to come across it. Ah well onto the next MP.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Mik,
I sure hope you did not think I was giving any kind of endorsement to this place. I panned it, said I had a terrible time and left before my time was up. Only Hardluck seems to enjoy, as he likes being beaten roughly there. I surely don't see how you could think Thanh Nghia is a popular place on this forum. That's what the forum is for, to help one another enjoy the good and avoid the bad. Festival is a popular place on this forum although I have never tried it as I am not a big fan of the HJ.
JD[/QUOTE]
lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. lol you are right though, in the respect that the treatment seems to vary from customer to customer. it seems to me that when an occidental walks in the door, it is open season on "money scalping". and the level of service seems to vary greatly from one girl to another.
me? i just related my high points inside that place. i have not related the really low points, of which i have had a couple of those also. now, in my own defense, i will say that i have only spent about 9 years of my life in asia, in one country or another. it has never changed and has always been the same. asian women are somehow, for whatever reason, in love with my skin, the texture. i have had asian women sit and rub the skin on my ass literally for hours, oohing and aweing about it. hell, i don't know why, i just know it happens. i have been told by several asian women that i have a "million dollar cock". i don't know why, but it seems to impress them. thirdly, old, young, pretty, ugly, or just somewhere in between, i love asian women. i can look at a normal, somewhat non-attractive asian woman, and my eyes can somehow see her as she was on her most beautiful day of her life. if she has inner beauty, it can somehow transform itself onto her face, and make her beautiful to me. my regard and appreciation of asian women is so damn high that even i am awed by its depth at times. i can't help it, i don't apologize for it, and i never shall. so, suffice it to say, that even as old and used up as i am, there is something inside me that can transcend the time and distance between myself and almost any asian woman, and go right to her heart. they feel it, and most have reciprocated in kind. it is what it is. i really don't know what it is, i just know it is there, and that it works. my doctor here in california insists i go to a physical therapist. as i age, my war ailments seem to get worse. my physical therapist is asian. i have been to see her 5 times already. last week, i went for a visit, and when we got into the room, she immediately got naked, and began to suck my cock. i was shocked. then, she wanted to make love. the whole time, i was asking myself, what in the fuck does she want with an old war-horse like me? my god, can you just imagine it? anyway, our experiences vary, according to the girl, the place or the situation. me? i sit here and admire you and your escapades there and envy the hell outta you at times. lol you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson!
my hero!
[quote=hardlock1]lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson! [/quote]hey hardluck,
i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.
btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy. .
jd
[quote=johndao]hey hardluck,
i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.
btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy.
jd[/quote] i know you were not criticizing me, johndao. i said that sorta tongue-in-cheek as it were. lol and yes, i do like the rough massage a bit, because specifically, one of my war wounds is a bunch of damaged nerves in my back and right hip. causes my back to ache unmercifully and my legs to ache also. the rough massage helps. sometimes the girl will crack my back and make me feel better for weeks at the time.
yeah, every time i see a pretty asian woman here, i flash back to vietnam. i can't help it. then i start to grin, and think of my experiences there. once in a while, i remember your video of little tiny mai, saying "dau lam" while you had at her and i start to do a belly-laugh, and envy you more. lol
two days ago, john, i went to see my physical therapist again. only, she wasnt there. bummer. there was a new therapist there and when we started talking, i found out she was from korea. i spoke to her in korean and she went into shock. well, we spent an hour talking about korea and my time there, and about how she missed it. in her language, of course. my god she knows what she is doing, and i am still feeling wonderful after that massage and workout. needless to say, before my time was up, and in korean, i told her how pretty she was and how sexy she looked. i touched her, somewhat inappropriatly, and she touched me back! lol the next thing i know, she whispers to me in my ear and asked me if i liked to eat pussy! i never said another word. i just showed her. and the obvious answer to whether she knows how to give a bj? ask my dick. he is still smiling. so yeah, i miss the hell outta vietnam, but not as much as i could be missing it. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
john, i want to ask you a question. you have the experiences of mai, trang, nguyet, dung and phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. making love is intensely personal to a viet woman, isn't it? and, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? what i mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? now, looking back on it, it wasnt just fucking, was it? it was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? am i right? with viet women, that is how it is with me. i'm just asking, john, lol. you don't have to answer if you don't want!
jackson for president!
h is out
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]John, I want to ask you a question. You have the experiences of Mai, Trang, Nguyet, Dung and Phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. Making love is intensely personal to a Viet woman, isn't it? And, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? What I mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? Now, looking back on it, it wasn't just fucking, was it? It was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? Am I right? With Viet women, that is how it is with me. I'm just asking, John, LOL. You don't have to answer if you don't want![/QUOTE]No, these are just girls I want to slam the hell out of, fuck them as hard and fast and long and deep as I can. Shove my cock down their throat till they gag, squeeze it into their ass if I can, spank their butt cheeks red. And I want to take pics and vid of doing it and show them to you. All for 150 or 200k. You saw Mai on video. You know what I want. What you describe above, I don't have pictures of. At least not that I will show. Those are different girls, different times.
I think that Hardlock and Johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because Johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas Hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.
I would suspect that Hardlock and I have about 20 years on Johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.
Whilst the ST experiences that Johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely GFE experiences that Hardlock mentions can also be had.
And, if I am buying it, I am quite happy to pay more than Johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term GFE experience.
Each to his own.
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? [/QUOTE]
I stopped to think about this a bit. And yes, absolutely my Vietnamese experiences have had this effect on me more often than, say, those i've had in Singapore Indonesia and Malaysia. I couldn't say exactly why that is so, but for me it definately is so.
I'm looking forward to being back there in the next couple of months, only concern is how to juggle those several intensly personal experiences.... they all want to travel around with me! :-)
Ozirob
Thanks JohnDao,
I appreciate your candor. And you know? Its okay, for as Sudsoz said, to each his own. I do suspect that we have about 15 or 20 years on you and might have slowed down just a step to the point where we savor the smells and tastes a little more than the mere substance of an encounter. I also suspect that in time, one of those little cuties is going to whack you pretty good, and a light will turn on and start shining inside you. It is then that you are going to think, "hey, those assholes were right! " Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Keep mongering my friend. We all appreciate you.
H is out
[quote=sudsoz]i think that hardlock and johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.
i would suspect that hardlock and i have about 20 years on johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.
whilst the st experiences that johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely gfe experiences that hardlock mentions can also be had.
and, if i am buying it, i am quite happy to pay more than johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term gfe experience.
each to his own.[/quote]hey suds and hardlock,
if you guys have 20 years on me then you will be peering into your eighth decade next year!
we all don't really know each other except for our posts here, but it seems you are assuming that the totality of my sexual life and experiences here in saigon are with the girls i post and describe. in terms of time, that is a really small part of my life. in terms of money, even less. but in terms of what i take pictures of and send to strangers, along with the real story, it is considerable.
i go slow, i wine and dine, i take my time, i seduce. i have gfe, but real gfe, not one i pay for. if i want to pay, i don't want to spend much time and i don't need to spend much money to be satisfied. i get what i want and pictures too.
i wanted to comment about 'short-time' vs a girl who stays overnight, but well, if you think that a girl who just stays overnight as you pay her is not short-time, well. . . . i've never done it and i hope i never will.
i like to take pictures and i like to post them. but what kind of girl lets you take pics like this and could not care less what you do with them? guys, where are your pictures? i like pictures and the real story. that's why i am here, on isg.
jd
Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt Tọc's are at that are talked about on a different thread. If you continue on until the roundabout where ĐBP meets Xô Viết Nghệ Tĩnh Street, you will want to make a left onto XvNT. For your first time follow this exactly, as it can be a bit confusing. Continue on XvNT until you come to a Y. STAY TO THE LEFT and continue going straight. This is now Highway 13 and its a one way. I am not sure what the actual name of the street is, but its NOT XvNT. After awhile you will see another bridge. But BEFORE you get to the bridge you will see away of turning left and jumping on the other one way street back towards ĐBP called "Đinh Bộ Lĩnh St". Its also a one way and you can see it coming off the same bridge you would have taken, if you remained going straight. This street has a BUNCH of "massage" places on both sides of the street. I do believe that the left side has more than the right, but don't quote me on that. Its a large road with several lanes.
I came here yesterday and again today and went to two different spots. Sorry guys, I don't remember the address number. You will see a bunch of girls wearing short dresses/skirts inside most of these places. Similar to the haircut places you walk in pay a small fee, ranging from 50k-70k dong for a massage. Both places I went to took me upstairs to an open massage area and ask me to take my shirt off. One time I was alone and another there was one other Vietnamese guy who by the looks of it, just got there before I did. They dim the lights and start with a basic massage on your legs and chest while also massaging the male member. After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.
Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.
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[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt T....
After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.
Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.[/QUOTE]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated!
Would like to know the same.
Went to the last shop before passing the small small bridge. BBBJ, but most of the time HJ, no CIM.
Will be in hcm end of the week, will try other places too.
Maybe you can give some advice.
Big thx
[QUOTE=Tom Strander]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tom Strander]Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated![/QUOTE]I have tried the one just before that small bridge and I did recieve CIM. I have also been to other places, farther down, after the bridge on the left hand side. There are a couple more just before you land back on DBP. All of them also provided with CIM. The last massage place before the end of the road also has a couple girls with some HUGE viet tits. real of course. however, they charge more, it was 100k entry fee. Also with this difference, they provided a good massage (30-45 mins) and a shampoo. Worth the extra dong.
Hope that helps. Sucks, for the both of you, were not able to receive CIM.
Hi guys,
I really appreciate your contributions about these BJ places, and I agree the CIM-NO CIM dispute is not irrelevant.
But. Let's say we understood the directions, as a newbie going there (with no local language) what should we do? Expect? Pay? What is going to happen, in your opinion?
When I was first riding around saigon learning the place (still getting lost and confused) I stopped in at one of these hot toc/massage shops on the mentioned street. I was greeted by a english speaking girl/receptionist/cashier who was very pretty and was showing me brief glimpses of her lacy knickers. Anyway I get lead upstairs to a big room, which is curtained off into stalls, the girl who was sleeping on the bed next to me was told to leave, There was a lockbox in the stall which I put my watch, wallet, phone, keys and locked and kept the key around my wrist. Anyway I get a crappy massage that was more like poking than anything else, then I get asked if theres anything else I want, I motioned for BJ and the girl looked at me like I was from Mars.
I end up with a HJ.
Cost me around 300k for the HJ, and 160K for the entry fee.
No shower, no clean towel, no refreshment only the sour taste of being ripped off.
If you do go to these local establishments then try to speak some of the language.
I stick to my massage parlour at Son Tra Hotel (I think thats the spelling) Its located on Vo Thi Sau before Pasteur on the right. Theres some roadworks on that street now so it will be harder to see. 70k entry with use of the steambath, showers, spa, sauna and massage with BJ for around 300k. The girls will try for 500k but I just tell them 100/200k and settle on 300k. They give the old sad face/puppydog eyes routine but will do it for 300k. VN speakers will probably get for less. You can get their phone numbers and make arrangements to meet after.
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You've hit my circuit. Son Tra: yeah. Girls a little old. Around 28-35 I'd say. I'm western but speak VN pretty well. Massage nothing special (not really into massage anyway. Perhaps because I've never had a good one). Then they stroke "the bird" and try to negotiate. I act uninterested. "up to you". This usually confuses them, but I don't really like to agree a price in advance. Just tell them I'll give them a tip. I've typically tipped VND150, 000 for a good hand job, VND200, 000 for blow job. The last time she was certainly not happy with VND200, 000 for a BJ. Kept moaning and scowling all the way to the cashier.
Got annoyed by this and haven't been back since. But a relatively simple and safe environment for a newcomer.
Nearby is "Huong Binh" pho (yellow fascia), opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach. Proper Pho. Much nicer than the famous one in Pasteur street around the corner (but no English or bananas). Or flirt with the bored waitress (always pretty and in nice shorts/short skirts) at the Miss Saigon place, corner of Vo Thi Sau/Pham Ngoc Thach. Or some nice ice cream at the Goody just a little way down Pham Ngoc Thach.
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]. I have been told by several Asian women that I have a "million dollar cock". ..[/QUOTE]Is that because it is all green and crinkled?
Sorry, I couldn't let this one go by without a shot.
[QUOTE=Ngu Ngon]You've hit my circuit. Son Tra: yeah. Girls a little old. Around 28-35 I'd say. I'm western but speak VN pretty well. Massage nothing special (not really into massage anyway. Perhaps because I've never had a good one). Then they stroke "the bird" and try to negotiate. I act uninterested. "up to you". This usually confuses them, but I don't really like to agree a price in advance. Just tell them I'll give them a tip. I've typically tipped VND150, 000 for a good hand job, VND200, 000 for blow job. The last time she was certainly not happy with VND200, 000 for a BJ. Kept moaning and scowling all the way to the cashier.[/QUOTE]I'm always there so I get treated fine by the girls and the managers (day and night)
I go for a steam bath for around 5-10mins, shower off and then manager asks me what girl I want, I have been seeing #9 for a few times now. She gives a very strong massage (which I like, others may like a softer touch) and gives a nice BJ with some rimming, licking the balls etc. Last night she had come to give me a massage, she removed her bra and wasn't wearing any panties under her skirt/shorts.
She pulls up her top and I see the smallest nipples I've ever seen and the moment I give them a tweek they grow into small nubs. I pulled her pants down while she was giving me a BJ and was fingering her, I got to give a couple squirts in her mouth before she realized and spat it out, all the while still stroking and milking me. After she cleaned me and herself up one of her friends was walking back after finishing massaging a customer, she knew me from before an enters my booth, she goes straight for my cock, pretending to kiss and suck it. The 2 girls start to play around.
As I'm leaving she's telling me to take me to hotel for boom boom.
I have a great time there, lots of fun and swearing (mostly by me) and laughing. I tip 300k for the massage and the 70k joiners fee.
I definately will be back!
Thanks! You've inspired me to go back. Incidentally have you ever tried that place on Vo Thi Sau advertising rooms to rent? "Phong cho thue" roughly opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach? Always struck me as a bit unusual (for the centre). Very openly advertising rates for 1 hour, 2 hours etc.
[QUOTE=Joe Nailer]On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area. I slowed down and look the both side of the street. I noticed an old woman (around 40) at a hot toc place waving at me when I just drove passed it. I continued on till the junction and turned right into Ung Van Khiem Street. (On Google Maps, enter “ho chi minh city, ung van khiem”)
I was still going slowly. Amongst god knows everything, I noticed a few small cafes at the both sides of the road. They looked suspicious. Very suspicious. I made a mental note of these places and drove on. I turned around at the point where the street become less busy, and drove back down the same road towards the point I started.
I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.
I picked one of them and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.
She (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.[/QUOTE]I didn't see your report before but I tried it out on Saturday afternoon, stopped in a café name ("sau di" or something like that) and there was a cutie inside, 20yo with huge breast, no hair on her legs (I hate that). She sat near me and was really sweet. I thought I will have a nice moment with her then, but when I asked if she was able to perform a "massage", she said she didn't know. I was a bit disappointed. Some of the cafe om are not providing BJ? Any guys had this experience before?
To change my mind then I headed to DBL but stopped finally in a hot toc on Bui Dinh Tuy. I got a hair massage with shampoo and then my extra service. She wanted to do just a HJ at the beggining, pretexting she didn't know how to suck. But finally she executed herself and I had the surprise to got a CIM with her. Nice. I was ready then to hang out all night with my friends.
[QUOTE=Ngu Ngon]Thanks! You've inspired me to go back. Incidentally have you ever tried that place on Vo Thi Sau advertising rooms to rent? "Phong cho thue" roughly opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach? Always struck me as a bit unusual (for the centre). Very openly advertising rates for 1 hour, 2 hours etc.[/QUOTE]I'm not too good speaking VN so I just to to the places that are MP's.
I don't bother with the ones around the city center/tourist areas, prefer the ones out in the suburbs.
I see lots of "love hotels" with advertising for times and prices. Not sure if they provide the entertainment or you have to BYO!
[QUOTE=Legova]Is that because it is all green and crinkled?
Sorry, I couldn't let this one go by without a shot.[/QUOTE]We are here in ISG, already discussing our baser desires and accomplishments. That is about as base as I want to get. LOL And, last time I looked it wasnt wrinkled or any off-color that might indicate Gangrene or some such malady. It looked normal to me, but then again, just exactly what is normal?
Suffice it to say, I was not bragging on myself, as both my Father and John Holmes could make me go to the back of the bus. Asian women like cocks that are bigger than the typical Asian cock, but not too damn big. Or, that has been my assessment over the years. That is all I was saying.
Anyway, I do understand your feelings. LOL I set myself up for that one, you took your shot. Good for you.
H is out.
[QUOTE=Lakeoffire1]To change my mind then I headed to DBL but stopped finally in a hot toc on Bui Dinh Tuy. I got a hair massage with shampoo and then my extra service. She wanted to do just a HJ at the beggining, pretexting she didn't know how to suck. But finally she executed herself and I had the surprise to got a CIM with her. Nice. I was ready then to hang out all night with my friends.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the shop and address?
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]What's the name of the shop and address? [/QUOTE]I don't know the name but it's easy to get there, when you are on DBL, you turn right to BDT and it's the first one on the right side. Again I had to insist to get a BJ (just be strong and you will get your pleasure there.)
On 3 tested in this area this is area, that's the first one I got CIM (but everywhere at least BJ). Total of the damage: always 200000 (including the fees and the girl), I'm caucasian, always more difficult to discuss then asian. But it's still ok.
Enjoy
I am sorry but I am not up with the abbreviations. Can you be clearer with the address. I want to try this when I got back in 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=Lakeoffire1]I don't know the name but it's easy to get there, when you are on DBL, you turn right to BDT and it's the first one on the right side. Again I had to insist to get a BJ (just be strong and you will get your pleasure there.)
On 3 tested in this area this is area, that's the first one I got CIM (but everywhere at least BJ). Total of the damage: always 200000 (including the fees and the girl), I'm caucasian, always more difficult to discuss then asian. But it's still ok.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Poppasan]I am sorry but I am not up with the abbreviations. Can you be clearer with the address. I want to try this when I got back in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]
DBL is Dinh Bo Linh out in BT (Binh Thanh district)
I dont' know what DBT is but looking on a map it'll intersect with the above
BJ stands for blow job
CIM is cum in mouth I believe
;)
[QUOTE=Wendella]DBL is Dinh Bo Linh out in BT (Binh Thanh district)
I dont' know what DBT is but looking on a map it'll intersect with the above
BJ stands for blow job
CIM is cum in mouth I believe.[/QUOTE]Thanks, it's exactly that and for BDT, it means Bui Dinh Tui, not sure about the spelling but i has intersection with DBL
After passing a black sign with white writting several times and the curiosity getting the better of me I went in and had a look lastnight.
Its located on Nguyen Xi just before Dinh Bo Linh (if your heading towards the hot tocs on DBL its left side) I come from No Trang Long side so its on my right after the traffic lights at DBL intersection.
I can't remember the name or the number but its basically a shop front extending back to glass doors with a small lounge/goldfish type room. Park your bike indoors.
I parked up and a chubby girl was talking to me, I just nodded and gave a few yes's, walked inside and followed one elderly man (must have been getting his nightly "medicine" upstairs. The girl he was with was a stunner compared to the chunky one who was pushing me along, I was hoping the pretty one in a black dress in the entrance would be doing the massage but no luck. I guess I could have requested her but she was busy eating dinner so perhaps next time (if there is a next time)
Go upstairs, into a room with 3 beds. These beds are made so you lie on your back, not flat like in massage parlors. I removed my shirt and got told to lie down (with jeans still on)
The girl who brought me in had gone to the toilet and returned. Puts up a curtain that ran from one wall to the other.
She gets the wet towels and starts wiping me down (whats with these wet towels in vn? ) and wash's the old fella.
She flopped her tits out and dropped her skirt revealing some old panties with the fabric pilling (I think thats the term you use to describe the small balls on the fabric) Not to mention the stretchmarks and a not to sexy gut. Anyway got on with the business at hand, short bobing motions and some stroking with the hand. I gave her a unexpected CIM and she spat it out with some very loud sounds, I was laughing, however she took it all in her stride, never made a ugly face, even had a giggle about it, wiped me clean with yes you guessed it. Another wet towel, helped me pull my jeans up and tried to engage me in conversation regarding how good she was at BJ's. I just put my shirt on and went to the bathroom and washed my face and hands, walked downstairs (the old man had finnished his BJ too and was very happy). Paid 50k for the entry fee and 300k for the BJ.
If you can speak vn-ese then you will end up with one of the more pretty girls. Basically its just another hot toc with more hidden parking I guess.
The girls there ranged from a 3 (my one) to around 7-8's However beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The ages of these girls would be around 20-under 30's.
Someone else who can speak better vn may enjoy it. Good for a straight up BJ and be of on your way.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc] Paid 50k for the entry fee and 300k for the BJ.
If you can speak vn-ese then you will end up with one of the more pretty girls. Basically its just another hot toc with more hidden parking I guess.
The girls there ranged from a 3 (my one) to around 7-8's However beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The ages of these girls would be around 20-under 30's.
Someone else who can speak better vn may enjoy it. Good for a straight up BJ and be of on your way.[/QUOTE]
Ridiculously high tip at 300 for a BJ in this place with this girl. Just totally not what they expect at all. They would get 100k max or more likely 80k for a total 150k. Why give her 300k, why? Pointless throwing money at them and reinforcing the impression of rich foreigners just throwing money away.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Ridiculously high tip at 300 for a BJ in this place with this girl. Just totally not what they expect at all. They would get 100k max or more likely 80k for a total 150k. Why give her 300k, why? Pointless throwing money at them and reinforcing the impression of rich foreigners just throwing money away.[/QUOTE]Like I said I dont speak the language so I know I'll be getting stung, This is Vietnam remember. Yes I'll be the first to admit it isn't good but until my language improves I'll be paying "tourist" prices.
This place I had thought was a proper massage parlour, not a blow job stop n go. I much prefer a massage and bj than visiting these "quicky marts"
Went back to a hotel/kareoke/massage that I had seen on one of my rides exploring the backstreets of Go Vap. Went down Nguyen Oanh and didn't see many massage/steambath type services until I saw a sign posted advertising there was one such place 150m down Nguyen Van Dung. The road was more like rough stones on a dirt/muddy base. I went down the bumpy road and hoped my watch would keep working after travelling along it. Theres a few trucks using the road so take care. Get to the entrance, park my bike and the security guard spoke a few words of english and directed me towards the massage building.
I'm walking down the road and passing a undercover eating area/resturant with a bar. Behind the bar was a beautiful girl. Not sure if she was manager or bartender.
I keep walking towards the back of the hotel complex. As I approach the entrance of the massage shop a man in a business shirt and trousers introduces himself to me, asking me if I had been here before. Not sure where he is from but speaks some english and told me he will get a "good girl" to take care of me. If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that well. Anyway I give it a go.
Its a nice place from first glimpses. The walls are nicely painted, nice lighting and flooring, Fishtank to your left as you come in.
Theres only 2 male attendants. I followed one. Straight to the VIP room. I had seen a price list on the counter beforehand with some prices. VIP Room 200k Bodymassage 100k The room was very clean and modern. Couldn't be more than 3-6months old. The steambath and sauna cubicles on the left wall were clean, The wood in the wet sauna was still new, not half rotten like other places. On the right is a locker with key for valuables. There was a big plasma/lcd tv (with the sales stickers still attached) on the wall with table and chair below, a large jacuzzi/spa for 2 nestled in the back left corner. On the right was the massage bed. There was also a seperate shower and toilet back and left of the entrance door which is hidden from prying eyes (yes I had thought about this could be the place for Full Service) which had the usual frosting on the lower portion but clear at top. To the right under the locker was a small closet filled with towels and shorts. There was also a phone to call the front counter and hotel rooms? With pre programmed buttons. Almost reminded me of some VIP rooms in Thailand MP's.
The usher had washed the bath and started filling it, turned on sauna and steam, brought me a small fruit plate with watermelon, pineapple and another fruit.
I sat down and started on the fruit while watching tv. Around 5mins later a beautiful girl named Thanh (sp? Pronounced taan) knocks on the door and lets herself in. Wow she was pretty. Quite tall too around 1.6m, I would say atleast a 7 pushing 8 on looks. Nice long legs, cute ass and small handfull's for tits. Under 30yrs for sure. We spoke a few words of english and we had a laugh. The usual "whats your name, where you from" etc.
She sat on my lap and starts feeding me fruit and water. She's watching TV with me and doing the usual things to make you feel good.
She's a bit hesitant about letting me get a feel of her tits, ass or pussy so my thoughts of possible FS is gone, Still there is the posibility of a BJ.
I go into the steamroom but its not really hot enough, It would need around a good 20mins to get right upto temp. After 10mins's or so I hop out and I take a bath, Thanh washes me all over and rinses me off. She towells me dry and give's me the cotton shorts. These are actually big and can fit ok.
Onto the massage
She gives a fairly decent massage, pays attention to the arms and legs, uses her knees to slide on your back, nice firm massage, then came the walking / sliding / moonwalk on the back, I'm not a big fan of this but put up with it, she was ok with this but I've had a lot better, she was much better with her hands.
The only downside were the pauses, while she changed channel on the tv. I told her after she was surfing too much to turn it off and she did. The massage got better after that.
Anyway onto the happyending part. She wanted to give me a HJ but I asked for BJ and she said no. So no happy ending for me. She gave me some more hugs, rubs, put her head on my chest, lick/play with my nipples but I wanted a BJ or nothing. So after another minute or so I went and had a shower, she helped wash the oil off me and dried me off, brought my clothes out of the security locker, helped me put my watch on, then gave me the tip paper. Not once did she mention a tip even when she was rubbing my oldfella though if I did accept her HJ she might have mentioned $. I had noticed when I first entered the room there was a old tip paper there. It had 100k so thats what I tipped her, She held up 2 fingers asking 200k. I said no, you look TV too much, while pointing at her and tv. She understood. As I left the room I saw another 3 massage girls. All around 7-8's and quite young. Under 25yr's If I were to guess. Not sure if they are any good at massage's but I'll have to come back later and see if there is anything else offered appart from the HJ.
To get there from Phan Van Tri. PVT
Turn Right onto Nguyen Oanh from Phan Van Tri at the traffic light intersection. There will be planes coming in to land from right to left just above your head, PetrolLimex on the left, right side will have green grass/vacant lot fenced off. Continue down Nguyen Oanh (NO), past Nguyen Van Luong St, veer right just after it and continue down, keep going past Le Duc Tho, The next proper width "street" is the one you want. Nguyen Van Dung. The massage sign will be on the right up in the air around 3meters up. If you hit the bridge then you have gone past.
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I am going to stay in Park Royal few days later. It shall be my third visit to HCM City.
Previous experiences during my stay in District 1 hotels are that:
1) the first time. I spent around USD50 included round-trip motor-bike plus massage & HJ by a girl who was quite thin & with dark skin.
2) the second time. My vendor friend brought me to a hotel where offered clean massage without HJ. Price was around 500, 000VND for 3 gentlemen, each 1-hour.
[QUOTE=Tattat]I am going to stay in Park Royal few days later. It shall be my third visit to HCM City.
Previous experiences during my stay in District 1 hotels are that:
1) the first time. I spent around USD50 included round-trip motor-bike plus massage & HJ by a girl who was quite thin & with dark skin.
2) the second time. My vendor friend brought me to a hotel where offered clean massage without HJ. Price was around 500, 000VND for 3 gentlemen, each 1-hour.[/QUOTE]Try to get out of the D1/tourist trap area. The massage girls are great at ripping you off for a shit massage.
Get to the surrounding areas (10min mototaxi ride) and you will get a better selection and service for half the price.
I went searching for the cafes near Dam Sen Park that have been talked about before on this board. I noticed some cafes across from the park. They all had plants in front and were quite dark inside which made it impossible to see anything from the outside. I noticed three of these cafes between 60 and 90 Hoa Binh Street p5 q11. Make sure you're in district 11 because part of Hoa Binh Street is also in Tan Phu district. I entered the cafe that is in the middle (I think it was number 78). I ordered a coffee. They brought my drink. A girl sat down next to me and immediately began massaging Mr. Happy. She suggested that we move to a corner at the back of the cafe. After moving, she sat on top of me and gave me a hj. I was free to put my hands where I wanted to. The bill for everything (massage and coffee) was 200k (less than 12 USD).
[QUOTE=Casey2005]. After moving, she sat on top of me and gave me a hj. I was free to put my hands where I wanted to. The bill for everything (massage and coffee) was 200k (less than 12 USD).[/QUOTE]Mate do you not read the forums? . If you had you would have also read that something like that shouldn't cost more than 100k, in fact it should cost 20k for coffee and 50k for the om!
This is what I mean about people who follow the reports but cannot bargain or negotiate there way out of a paper bag! I personally won't be adding any further places in a public manner because of idiots like this. If you don't have the capacity ie language skills then just pay the price that ws quoted on the forum, don't ask the girl. Juts pay and pretend you know whats going on. I don't want a defense of "I'm happy with paying 200k. So thats what I'll do"
If you are happy with paying that price, then find your own locations don't follow what others have discovered and then shit in their neighbourhood.
Casey,
In hindsight after my "god damn" moment, i realsie that calling you an idiot is a bit extreme and is uncalled for. For that i apoligise, however for all those on this forum, who cannot speak vietnamese or cannot negotiate well, just pay the price that is quoted on the forum and act like u know what the price is, dont ask what the price is as they will jack up the price and will will be treated as stupid, dont think thy respect you anymore because you pay more.
Again i apoligise for my bad temper.
Festival, Cao Thang Street.
Girls - 9/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - good HJ
Cost - 100vnd mass, 200 tip
Never had bad service at this place, fun good looking girls who aim to please.
Son Tra, Vo Thi Sau Street, near Hai Ba Trung
Girls - 5/10
Massage - 4/10
Extras - Good HJ, Average BJ
Cost - 70-100 mass, 200 HJ - 300 BJ
A bit of a shabby place, used to be able to pay 200 for BJ for but some other foreigner started tipping 500!! got tired of hard negotiations so have stopped going.
Vien Dong, Pham Ngu Lao
Girls - 8/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - Good HJ
Cost - 100 mass, 200 HJ
Nice place, cute girls. Some english spoken.
(Forgot the name)Beauty Salon, 1st floor, ACE building, Xo Viet Nghi Street, Binh Thanh District.
No extras offered here but what a great massage - 4 hands oil massage at 250,000 an hour (may have changed lately). tipping optional.
Monica, Ky Dong Street, D3
Girls - 8/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - Good HJ
Cost - 120 mass, 200 HJ
Nice place, cute girls.
Have been to lots of the smaller massage places (on CMT8, 3/2, Su Van Hanh, Le Hong Phong) which are not attached to hotels - generally they are a bit dirtier, cheaper, have less attractive girls with a worse massage and HJ.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Turn Right onto Nguyen Oanh from Phan Van Tri at the traffic light intersection. There will be planes coming in to land from right to left just above your head, PetrolLimex on the left, right side will have green grass/vacant lot fenced off. Continue down Nguyen Oanh (NO), past Nguyen Van Luong St, veer right just after it and continue down, keep going past Le Duc Tho, The next proper width "street" is the one you want. Nguyen Van Dung. The massage sign will be on the right up in the air around 3meters up. If you hit the bridge then you have gone past.[/quote]I've been to that place a while ago and I confirm it's a retty nice massage with everything new inside. The massage from the number 5 Hoanh (maybe not the right spelling) was great, she always touch the little men but I was not in the mood and this girl was not cute, I'm difficult I know but I wanted a good massage and I got it so I was fully satisfied.
I recommend this place as if it's pretty far from the center, move your ass and you'll be satisfied.
I know there is a place similar to this one near the city center with VIP (including private sauna and steam plus a bath). The name of this place is a women name but I can't remember it, if someone have the clue, please share it as I would like to come back there but forgot the way.
Thanks guys
I gave the place a try, for me it is conveniently located near my way back from work. It is indeed a nice clean massage place, nothing to complain about. Just like many other such places around here, just nicer and cleaner.
The service, by Nr 7 was pretty standard, a good complete massage without any fantasy, it was already finished when proposal came to add a HJ. Followed a very tasteless procedure. Nr7 is really cute, good looking, what a pity that she is not service motivated and does not try to please her customer.
Damage was 250k as per price list for the house and 150k for the provider. She was not happy, but not sufficiently to ask for more.compromise between good massage and tasteless HJ.
I cannot understand why in this country they do not try to get the best of what a restrictive legal environment allows them? Ah could we have here a couple of Bangkok's Annie's, Tulip's etc.
I will eventually come back, to check if better service is available, since the place is clean and conveniently located.
I dropped by this large MP one time a few weeks ago. I had seen it on my rides along KVC. I pulled up next door to the big undercover parking building, Got ushered next door. Paid for VIP room upon arrival. Well the VIP room. What a joke. Just a room thats slightly bigger than 4m X 2.5m Stuffed with a corner bath and next to that a single seat steamroom. The girl who come to wash and massage me did such a shit job that I ended up washing myself. There goes my hopes of a FS massage. 5 minute massage and a BJ to finnish. All up around 30min's spent in the room. 100k tip. Never going back to find out if other girls are better.
Been here a couple times. Medium size massage establishment. Changeroom, showers, dry sauna and steamroom on ground floor.
Upstairs the cubicals for massage.
It does get very crowded in the evenings. Sometimes theres a wait for steamroom, sauna and a shower. The punters there are quite friendly and you can have a chat while you wait or having a steam.
The girl sit upstairs on 1st floor 2 at a time. You can see who is massaging you.
First time i had a fantastic massage. Very strong and thorough massage. Only HJ to finnish, no BJ's.
Second time I had a not so good massage but a nice long HJ with plenty of teasing during my massage.
The girls are shy about you touching them.
The changeroom guys do push hard for tips almost to the point of trying to be intimitating with one guy blocking the exit. I just grabbed his shoulder and pushed him aside and told him no tip, If you want a tip then you should pay more attention when I asked for another towel instead of doing the silly smile and walking away.
Pay upon arrival is 70k, tip 100k.
I still prefer the friendly staff at Son Tra Hotel.
I've been told of another MP that offers BJ's as standard, No questions asked, just go straight for it. If this pans out then I'll write out a report.
Hey Everyone,
Thanks for all the wonderful information. It's made for some much needed R&R while on vacation. Maybe someone with more insight can provide some clarity on the tipping policies.
I recently visited Vien Dong Hotel (on Phan Ngu Lao). This was my first trip there and the girl that provided service was an absolute stunner, a solid 9. That encounter ended well so I decided to go back. The second encounter, I requested the same number girl but she was unavailable. The masseuse that did drop in was also quite the looker.
Things started out usual but when it came time for the happiness, I originally thought I would go along with it, but I needed more recharging than I thought. Oh well, she had strong hands and while the massage was not great, it wasn't bad. With that in mind, during the massage, we talked and I said I wasn't interested in anything more than just the massage. She kept asking whether I was "sure? " at which point I simply said, "ya. Just the body massage"
Now the dilemma comes-it comes time to tip out. She has me mark her "card" and then for the tip I ask if she wants it now (which I then mark as zero) or pay at the desk (enter the amount I want to add on the slip).
She says it doesn't matter. That said, I then proceed to give her 100k as a tip. Her sweet and mild demeanor turned hostile almost immediately. She was extremely insistent that she was deserving of a 200k-300k tip and that was what the going rate was. Being as there wasn't any HJ action, she never touched my buddy*, I said, "no, 100k is good enough".
She was very cold at that point and mechanically told me how to find the exit.
Should I have tipped her more? I don't know the ettiquette but I figured it would probably be better to go under (and have her angry) than potentially damage the "bar" by giving her money for services not rendered?
Can anyone give me a list of good MPs in HCMC and rate the quality of the girls for each?
Also what is the pricing for these?
[QUOTE=In Country]Hey Everyone,
Thanks for all the wonderful information. It's made for some much needed R&R while on vacation. Maybe someone with more insight can provide some clarity on the tipping policies.
I recently visited Vien Dong Hotel (on Phan Ngu Lao). This was my first trip there and the girl that provided service was an absolute stunner, a solid 9. That encounter ended well so I decided to go back. The second encounter, I requested the same number girl but she was unavailable. The masseuse that did drop in was also quite the looker.
Things started out usual but when it came time for the happiness, I originally thought I would go along with it, but I needed more recharging than I thought. Oh well, she had strong hands and while the massage was not great, it wasn't bad. With that in mind, during the massage, we talked and I said I wasn't interested in anything more than just the massage. She kept asking whether I was "sure? " at which point I simply said, "ya. Just the body massage"
Now the dilemma comes-it comes time to tip out. She has me mark her "card" and then for the tip I ask if she wants it now (which I then mark as zero) or pay at the desk (enter the amount I want to add on the slip).
She says it doesn't matter. That said, I then proceed to give her 100k as a tip. Her sweet and mild demeanor turned hostile almost immediately. She was extremely insistent that she was deserving of a 200k-300k tip and that was what the going rate was. Being as there wasn't any HJ action, she never touched my buddy*, I said, "no, 100k is good enough".
She was very cold at that point and mechanically told me how to find the exit.
Should I have tipped her more? I don't know the ettiquette but I figured it would probably be better to go under (and have her angry) than potentially damage the "bar" by giving her money for services not rendered?[/QUOTE]No, you should not have tipped her more. 100k is more than enough. 70k would be enough too. It's just an act, well-practiced on tourists. You are in the prime tourist area, easiest people to fool and rip-off. It's her way of bargaining, playing on your guilt or insecurity. It works for them time and time again, so they do it regularly. If you had given her 200k it would have been the same act. 300k maybe even the same, depending. The rule is give what you want and ignore anything she says, everything she says. Don't make eye contact, put your hand upright and twist it back and forth as you walk away without a word. Vietnam sucks guys. This is not Thailand, not the PI.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao] Vietnam sucks guys. This is not Thailand, not the PI.
JD[/QUOTE]Exactly, Don't try to even think you can get something similar to what you get in TLD, or Cambo. Closest you will get in a MP is lipstick on your dipstick...
As for tips, Give what you think she deserves. I give good tip if the massage is great. I tell the girls that the tip is for the massage, not for the BJ or HJ at the end. 100k for a HJ is a good tip. At my regular place I do get many girls sneak into my cubical when I'm getting a massage to hug, rub,tug,kiss,blow/suck me along with the moans and groans and laughs (as they walk to and from their customers)
I avoid the Tourist trap D1 like the plague. I've been to enough MP's in that area to workout its just shit.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Exactly, Don't try to even think you can get something similar to what you get in TLD, or Cambo. Closest you will get in a MP is lipstick on your dipstick...
As for tips, Give what you think she deserves. I give good tip if the massage is great. I tell the girls that the tip is for the massage, not for the BJ or HJ at the end. 100k for a HJ is a good tip. At my regular place I do get many girls sneak into my cubical when I'm getting a massage to hug, rub,tug,kiss,blow/suck me along with the moans and groans and laughs (as they walk to and from their customers)
I avoid the Tourist trap D1 like the plague. I've been to enough MP's in that area to workout its just shit.[/QUOTE]Haha. Thanks for the heads up guys. In hindsight, I was actually feeling a little annoyed with myself for having even tipped her 100k for no extra play (not to mention the massage was blah). I'm definitely glad I didn't give in and give her the 200-300k.
Hey Mik HCMC- would you mind sharing the address of your local MP? If you'd rather not, thats cool. I can't have PM's as I'm not paying for membershipmso if you posted, it'd be public.completely up to you man.
[QUOTE=In Country]Hey Mik HCMC- would you mind sharing the address of your local MP? [/QUOTE]If go to Son Tra hotel and get upto the 8th floor there is a MP there. That was/is my local but its a bit far away now, before I was in Binh Thanh but now I've moved out to Go Vap. The manager and the girl can speak some english. Just don't over tip hahaha.
I've really been trying to look for an MP or some place for full service that is not at bars or from the street. I have heard people here have found them but maybe they are very low key. Just hope I could find a simple place I can go in and out without the hassles.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]If go to Son Tra hotel and get upto the 8th floor there is a MP there. That was/is my local but its a bit far away now, before I was in Binh Thanh but now I've moved out to Go Vap. The manager and the girl can speak some english. Just don't over tip hahaha.[/QUOTE]Had a great time.. and now I understand what you meant about the girls coming and going.. lols.. they're pretty friendly.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=In Country]Had a great time.. and now I understand what you meant about the girls coming and going.. lols.. they're pretty friendly.
Thanks again![/QUOTE]Yeah, some of the girls there aren't model material, then again I dont look at them when I'm face down getting my back massaged. If I want a strong massage I request certain #girls, If I want a double shot then I get a different girls. I like to go have a shower, steam bath, sometimes a sauna, shower off and then get a massage, followed by either a shower or another steam/sauna shower and go.
I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Yeah, some of the girls there aren't model material, then again I don't look at them when I'm face down getting my back massaged. If I want a strong massage I request certain #girls, If I want a double shot then I get a different girls. I like to go have a shower, steam bath, sometimes a sauna, shower off and then get a massage, followed by either a shower or another steam/sauna shower and go.
I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.[/QUOTE]I would agree that the ones I saw werent' model material but then again, I'm not looking to marry them either. Enthusiasm counts for a lot in my book.
I got the phone numbers of 2 of the girls and they both were willing to head out to a hotel after work but my negotiation skills suck. The one girl wanted 600k for an hour. I told her "maybe" but left it at that, seemed kinda pricey considering the goods*.
I've found a CIM/BBBJ place for about 100k. I don't have the address but I'll find it out when I'm back in that area. It was just a nondescript building with I say 6-8 girls working. Fairly dirty though. You go in. Pick a girl then head up stairs to a room. Each room had bed sheets that split the room into 4-6 cubicle sized "work areas". You lay on the mat and she goes at it. It was pretty nasty as you can c/hear the other doods that are like 3 feet away from you getting worked on. It was definitely interesting as it was my first time at a place like this and damn the girl was hard working, but the setting was just too distracting for my tastes. But 100k. Talk about a bargain!
[QUOTE=In Country]It was pretty nasty as you can c/hear the other doods that are like 3 feet away from you getting worked on.[/QUOTE]Welcome to SE Asia hahah
Sounds like your having some fun. Keep the reports flowing.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.[/QUOTE]
Mik, I think you are very unlikely to find a FS MP in the city. I never have. Much more likely in the outlying area where rules are 'relaxed' somewhat. I'd guess near a big road heading south or north out of the city. Thu Duc? Maybe. Or go south past Phu My Hung into Nha Be or Binh Chanh County. I never have. I'm sure it's there, though I would not go riding around looking without knowing where I'm going. PM me if you find one. Thanks.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao] PM me if you find one. Thanks.
JD[/QUOTE]Not a problem, I'm trying to stop into every MP that I come across looking for the thai/cambo/phil's style of massage. Got plenty of offers to meet after work but it kind of defeats the purpose of a walk-in FS.
I remembered that there was a FS hot toc in district 5 a few years ago. I searched the thread and the address is 112 Tran Tuan Khai near the Tokyo Hotel. I have no idea if it's still open.
Ok, so this doesn't really belong in the "massage parlor" section but I think it's a better fit here than in the other sub-forums.
I ended up picking up a SW that was standing on some bridge. She was the cutest little thing and after some basic negotitation, we headed off to a local hotel. Rates were 300 per hour and 100 for the hotel. Had a blast as she was just the type of frame I like. So naturally, I get her number and have since called her a few times to meet up.
The very first session was FS for 1 whole hour. Multiple pops, BBBJ. Etc. The subsequent times had gotten worse and worse. Things like looking at her cellphone (I had to repeatedly tell her to turn it off or put it away), asking if I was done, saying she was tired. I didn't mind at first as I was "preoccupied" doing my thing. Today, however turned kinda ugly. It was a constant struggle to get her to give it up. It was as if everything was suddenly off limits. After some serious bitching, I managed to get the action going. All this time she's complaining about one thing or another or looking at her phone. I'm like, "fine. I'll just pound you even harder then". Just then, the hotel calls up at which point the girl answers and relays to me that my hour is up. I pulled out my cellphone and saw that it had been at most 30 minutes from when I called her from my pad to when the lobby called to tell me the time was up.
So including the travel time, the wait time, and the bitching to get her to drop her panties, total time had been at most 30 minutes. I quickly did the math in my head and was like, I got about 10 minutes of play before the hotel had called up. I said, "DU MA" and started calling her a cheat/liar. She was still in bed naked and I proceeded to put on my shorts and shirt. I was done as the constant back and forth had just ruined it for my buddy and I was no longer in the mood. I got dressed and as I was doing so, she got up and start yammering for me to pay her. I can speak Vietnamese so the conversation played out as follows.
Her: "PAY ME!"
Me: "no..You did a crappy job and then tried to cheat me"
Her: "PAY ME OR IMMA CALL "<some dood's name>"
Me: "GOOD..call him NOW or the police or whoever you want. I'm not paying you"
Her: "ok, come back and finish"
Me: "No, I'm done with you. You wasted my time, Im not paying you for anything"
At this point she blocks the door by standing in front of it. Now I'm a regular sized guy and while I'd NEVER hit a girl, I'm not against shaking the sh! T out of one. So I grab her and basically make her sit on the bed. I then proceed to walk out the door. She immediately gets back up and tries to get in front of the door again but that didn't really stop me as I already had it partially open and making her move wasn't much of an issue. So as I walk down the stairs she's basically yelling to call some dood. The lobby folks hear most of this and as I come down to the ground floor, they're all just sitting there watching me as I walk by them. I turn, pause and stare them down HARD and then keep going out the door to where my xe om dood was waiting. None of them got up. It pissed me off as I wanted to yell at them for trying to cheat me as well. The folks in the lobby knew it wasn't 1 hour but yet they called up anyways.
So basically I paid my xe om 30k for there and back. The hotel 100k for 1 hour, (which turned out to be about 20 minutes) and some SW who tried to get 300k out of me by basically doing nothing except whine, complain, and moan. I got about 10 minutes of actual play before it all turned sour. All in all, I'm out 130k (plus a big tip to my xe om driver for getting me the hell out of there).
What do you think? Should I have paid, not paid? Any and all comments are welcomed.
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In Country, she's not into you, she doesn't like you, she doesn't want to do it with you anymore obviously so take a hint (not too subtle) and find another girl. Whatever you do with her or to her, she now feels it's not worth it for the 300k. Maybe the first time was the best because she thought she'd get something extra by being a good performer. Maybe she was new at the game at the time. Now she's been out for a while, she's small, her pussy is getting sore. If she's cute as you say, then others have probably paid her more and maybe they popped quicker. As you said she went downhill from the first meet, why call her back again and again? Her service declined from the first time and you still paid her so she just keep going down. Why not find another one, there are so many out there.
Anyway, she is trafficked, she's not an FL, she's pimped, she's controlled. Her handlers may have told her we don't want you off the street for a full hour getting worn out by some guy for only 300k, we need you working all day and night. So hurry up and get back out here fast or else we're gonna kick the shit outta you. So have some empathy for the little indentured servant sex slave and leave her alone and don't worry about the little money you mentioned in your post. Really, counting your 30k xe om as part of this is a bit much.
You said you wanted a straight and honest opinion and that's mine.
JD
Wow.
In Country, ya gots cojones man.
I'd say you were lucky you didn't end up in the hospital wondering where the freight train that hit you went.
[QUOTE=Naughty]Wow.
In Country, ya gots cojones man.
I'd say you were lucky you didn't end up in the hospital wondering where the freight train that hit you went.[/QUOTE]I disagree Naughty, what he did does not take balls at all. It's not dangerous. She has nobody who cares about her. If she has to give her handlers 100k per customer, then she has to give them 100k per customer regardless of whether or not the customer pays her. The pimps just want their cut and if the guys stiffs the girl, it's her problem, she's got to pay anyway because they don't know if she's lying or not and they surely are not going after some foreigner on the word of some SW. As he wrote, she is small and thin so no danger to him. For her, it's just the price of being an abused sex slave forced to work the streets for her minders, handlers, pimps, whatever you call them.
JD
In Country:
You said her service was getting progressively worst so why did you keep going back and fucking her? In my opinion you have to bear part of the responsibility for what happened. You should have paid her for the 10 minutes at least. The fact that she wanted you to finish showed that she was scared of something other than you. That something as Johndao pointed out is most likely the pimp who fucked her up that day for coming up short.
You should have quit while you were ahead and stopped using her services at the first indication that she was getting less than enthusiastic about you rooting her hole. It sounds like you were really wearing out her hole for 300K and she still had to go service other customers. You should have paid her and explained that you were not going to use her services any more and why. She may have learned something. Screaming, yelling and shaking her did not solve anything. She receives worst treatment than that from her pimps. I hope you learned something from this too. Avoid repeating with streetwalkers. Remember her little hole has to handle miles of cock daily. Instead of struggling to get her to give it up and pounding her harder you should have paid her for her time and canceled the session before starting. Remember that the choices you have are not available to her. Two wrongs don't make it right buddy.
The honesty is appreciated (whether I agree with it or not).
I really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as I was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should I do" versus a "you fuked up" kind of mentality. Seriously, we're all aholes who go around paying girls for FS. Do you think you're being Robin Hood by banging them nicely and giving them money? It's a service industry. If you pay for service "X", then you should receive service "X", not service "Y"
This whole matter stems from agreeing to a service and then not delivering. In this case, I had already paid for the hotel and as usual, she had tried to ask for the whole amount upfront. This is why I never do that anymore. I mean, isn't that the standard MO. You pay up front, they bail on you. Instead I went the route of "You deliver, you get paid" I don't even flinch about the price if I get what I want. Cmon, it's stupid to think that 300k is a lot of money. That's not even $20 US dollars. The actual money is not the point.
There was NO grey area when she said, "The hotel said your hour is up, It's time to go". She wanted the session ended. If both parties agree to something and money is exchanged, how would you feel if the agreement were changed before it was finished? The term "cheated" comes to mind. If she were worried about her pimp beating her, she should have not compromised the deal by trying to end it early.
I'm typically very upfront that if there's anything she doesn't like, she tells me now and/or tells me during the session. The little spinner had seen me a few times so she knew what to expect. If my style had not been to her liking she could easily have not gone as I contact her cellphone directly and not her pimps. She can say, "No" and nobody would be the wiser. Another option is for her to ask for more money. What is NOT acceptable is for her to take my money for a service and then not deliver. I don't care if she's crippled, handicapped, one eyed, one armed, one toothed. What the hell does that have to do with striking a deal and then not living up to it? The tone in these "respsonses" seems to indicate I should have known she was going to cheat me or refuse more than 10 minutes of sex when we had agreed to the whole hour?
I find it somewhat hypocritical that there's even a semblance of "righteouness" or fair play. We're not here to make the world a better place. We're here to pound girls for cheap as it's acceptable and easy by Vietnamese standard. To me, it's sounds ridiculously incredulous that there's "concern" about what these people go through. From the treatment by pimps, handlers, customers- if you're going to be honest, be honest with yourself first. Take a look in the mirror and see if you're not the same "monger" that's going around propagating the "industry". We all partake and we all contribute and then at the end of the day, we all go back to our happy little homes with our US dollars and not worry about what happens to them.
Okay, I'm being silly, trying to come up with a new acronym, B&G is blow and go. Anyway
After a review I read about a B&G place in D1 (bordering D3), which is near where I live, I decided to go out and have a shot at it. It's off of HBT, right on Tran Quang Khai and left onto N V Nguyen (I think it is Nguyen Van Nguyen). Place is called Hoang (sp? ) My, address is 212. Someone wrote there are a few places here but I only found 1. It's sort of like a deserted alley, not much there. Anyways went in, the selection were a bunch of 6s, maybe some passing for 7s IMHO, but this is fine for me. Picked a girl named Lu, she worked very hard but was not able to make me finish. I think in my old age if I don't get enough sleep I can finish unless it is FS. I'm sort of particular how I like my BJs.
Setup is similar to others where it is one room 3 tables and curtains. Some reported this is odd, but I really like it, hearing the performance of a couple of woman at the same time hearing my own girl. Quite a turn on for me.
The one thing I found funny here was the use of black lights. I discovered something with the VN dong. I took out a bill and saw that in the blacklight you can see the amount clearly. It was a 50 I took out and it read 50, 000. Quite cool as I can't seem to see it in regular light.
Anyways, next time I will walk more to find the other places. I really do appreciate a girl really going at it and feeling sad if you don't finish. They really work hard for that money.
Paid 200K and I was out. I'll go back to finish with Lu next time. She was a treat. BTW, she even climbed on the table and stradled me trying to HJ, it almost worked and it was a nice site to see.
[QUOTE=In Country]The honesty is appreciated (whether I agree with it or not).
I really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as I was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should I do" versus a "you fucked up" kind of mentality.[/QUOTE]
In Country,
Sorry for the moralizing and lecture, I know it's not what you asked for. And you make good points, we are all mongers taking advantage of poor, often helpless young women.
My Vietnamese is just passable but I think there may be some language confusion happening in your case. The Vietnamese word 'gio' can mean 'hour' but it also means 'time'. So if someone at the hotel, and the girl said something like 'het gio roi' you may take it to mean that your hour, your one hour is up. But it can also mean 'time is up'. That's what it really means, time is up, not that one hour has passed. The hotel workers have no way to know what you agreed with the girl as far as time goes. If she told them to call the room after 20 mins or 30 mins, that's not their fault.
Finally, to answer your question as to what I would have done, and have done several times in the past. I just write it off to a bad experience and don't use that provider again. I'd pay the girl 100k, which would cover her fee to her minders, and I'd pay the hotel in full, 100k because I want to use their hotel again and don't want a reputation as a troublemaker. Sure, it's a waste of 200k but that's less than $12. One of the reasons I don't go with $60-$70 girls and pay their pimps $20 more + the double hotel fee of $20-25 is that it's easy to be disappointed. At the $9, $12 or $15 I usually pay and 70k or 80k more for hotel, I'm rarely disappointed and more often than not, pleasantly surprised. If she's a dud, I've lost little. I certainly don't count things like petrol or xe om cost or the phone call to the girl or the condom I used or the dab of KY I wasted as part of my cost.
I know the hot, angry, indignant feeling you had, I've had it myself, "I'm cheated, it's not fair, it's principle." But I take a deep breath and forget it quickly.
JD
[quote=in country]the honesty is appreciated (whether i agree with it or not).
i really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as i was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should i do" versus a "you fuked up" kind of mentality. seriously, we're all aholes who go around paying girls for fs. do you think you're being robin hood by banging them nicely and giving them money? it's a service industry. if you pay for service "x", then you should receive service "x", not service "y"
this whole matter stems from agreeing to a service and then not delivering. in this case, i had already paid for the hotel and as usual, she had tried to ask for the whole amount upfront. this is why i never do that anymore. i mean, isn't that the standard mo. you pay up front, they bail on you. instead i went the route of "you deliver, you get paid" i don't even flinch about the price if i get what i want. cmon, it's stupid to think that 300k is a lot of money. that's not even $20 us dollars. the actual money is not the point.
there was no grey area when she said, "the hotel said your hour is up, it's time to go". she wanted the session ended. if both parties agree to something and money is exchanged, how would you feel if the agreement were changed before it was finished? the term "cheated" comes to mind. if she were worried about her pimp beating her, she should have not compromised the deal by trying to end it early.
i'm typically very upfront that if there's anything she doesn't like, she tells me now and/or tells me during the session. the little spinner had seen me a few times so she knew what to expect. if my style had not been to her liking she could easily have not gone as i contact her cellphone directly and not her pimps. she can say, "no" and nobody would be the wiser. another option is for her to ask for more money. what is not acceptable is for her to take my money for a service and then not deliver. i don't care if she's crippled, handicapped, one eyed, one armed, one toothed. what the hell does that have to do with striking a deal and then not living up to it? the tone in these "respsonses" seems to indicate i should have known she was going to cheat me or refuse more than 10 minutes of sex when we had agreed to the whole hour?
i find it somewhat hypocritical that there's even a semblance of "righteouness" or fair play. we're not here to make the world a better place. we're here to pound girls for cheap as it's acceptable and easy by vietnamese standard. to me, it's sounds ridiculously incredulous that there's "concern" about what these people go through. from the treatment by pimps, handlers, customers- if you're going to be honest, be honest with yourself first. take a look in the mirror and see if you're not the same "monger" that's going around propagating the "industry". we all partake and we all contribute and then at the end of the day, we all go back to our happy little homes with our us dollars and not worry about what happens to them.[/quote]
in country:
you asked for our opinions and you got it but you seem a bit pissy now. what i suggested in my response is how i would have handled the situation. it might look like i am taking sides here but, believe it or not, what i said to you is for your own protection. you could have easily been stabbed by a pimp waiting downstairs or the authorities could have gotten involved. would that have been worth it for you based on matter of principle? yes. you should have had an idea that you were going to be ripped off. you noticed a trend of declining service and you ignored it. part of mongering is learning how to avoid bad situations. the guys who are clueless and focus solely on pounding cheap pussy will eventually walk into traps. in this game you win some and you lose some. sometimes you have to take it on the chin and accept your losses just like in any other business.
you complain about moralizing but isn’t your argument that you were cheated based on your feelings about right and wrong? another thing is that assumption that we are all the same because we pay for pussy is erroneous. some of us actually do care what happens to them and we try to make our dealings with them as mutually beneficial as possible. others just want to pound their holes and wear them out as much as they can for as cheap as possible. there are some that fuck and take off without paying just for fun. one guy on the thailand thread boasted about doing this and speeding away on his moped.
it’s not a “service industry.” it’s a criminal enterprise so you shouldn’t be surprised that there will be attempts to rip you off from time to time. if it was legal for you fuck girls cheaply according to “vietnamese standards” you wouldn’t have to sneak around and hide from law enforcement to do it. back in the us you’d be prosecuted for picking up that prostitute. so leave your righteous indignation at home. if you don’t genuinely want to hear other views on your actions don’t ask for them. the rest of us will respectfully ignore them.
good luck,
cm
@In Country, and others
Everything has been said.
But, about not paying the girl, dude, let me tell yu: give her the fucking 18 bucks she wants and BE SAFE.
Same kind of stories happened to a friend of mine few months ago. Big guy, tall and kinda ruff. He refused to pay a girl who gave him extremely bad service.
What happened to him is everything but cool to hear.
As said right below, this is a criminal entreprise. Don't mess around.
Saigon River is full of braves, you know. And you're not safe because you're westerner.
Be safe man. This is not home. This is fucking Vietnam.
Ahh, there's absolutely no need to apologize. Seriously. The comments are good and while they're not completely without barb, I'm a big kid and it's fine.
I've got a whopping 7 posts now? I definitely know when I'm noob at something, and if you look at my earlier posts, you'll see I'm a total beginner at this stuff. I'm not being pissy so much as I'm standing my ground on how I, as a westerner, would have handled it. Granted, thats why I came in "here" and asked for input- even I am not that oblivious to the reality that "we're not in Kansas anymore Toto".
I don't know how it works and as you guys have pointed out, things escalate much differently out here than they would in the states. Some things I can guess at but some of the things you guys have said have honestly never occurred to me. So in those regards, I appreciate the feedback and commentary.
To address the "Mutually Beneficial" portion of CM's comments. I find it peculiar that you somehow think that all of this is copacetic if you somehow pay them what they want. It's one thing to not realize, but it's another to try and rationalize it to the point where you think you are somehow not culpable of the ugliness that is prostitution. As you yourself pointed out, its a criminal enterprise. That's fine, I accept that interpretation. But in accepting that, wouldn't you think that there's absolutely no fair play in it for the girls. The girls get used, abused and when they're of no good, they're discarded like bad produce. Unfortunately, we as westerners propagate this. You're seriously deluding yourself if you think that by playing "nice" you don't partake in this ugly cycle. This isn't' the States where girls have more freedom to get into and out of the industry. In SE Asia, its often indentured servitude where there is little to no choice. Every time we pay for it, we continue the cycle. You somehow think that by paying them what they ask, there's some kind of absolvement for you? That it is "OK" since they got what they wanted and that as long as they're all smiles that you've done "right"?
I posted up my experience on this board to get the feedback on how to avoid this kind of stuff and what to look out for. The indignation comes when you question the fairness in which we play this game. Somehow you think by playing it "your" way, you're somehow less guilty or morally justified? Give me a break. To me, thats even more appalling as you somehow think it's "ok" that you do what you do. I may be a noob at this mongering thing, but I do respect the experience of others and what they have to say (even yours). I just don't have much patient when it comes to discussing the morality of what we do. It galls me to think that people rationalize the superiority of their mongering.
I know I'm an ahole, I wholly accept that. In this game of "mongering" I'm learning that you win and you lose. It's a lot like life, no? But to me, that does NOT equate to me wanting to ever lose. Mistakes happen but I try to learn from them and I try to avoid them for the future.
Reading about In Country's experience... I can understand his wanting to leave, and while it might not have been wise on his part to do that, in terms of self-preservation, I think it was fair and what should be expected by this girl after what she pulled. (Shaking the girl and throwing her around is over the line though)
Remember, she got a call from downstairs that the time was up. So this means the whole thing was pre-meditated, planned. She needed to have that set up with the guy at the hotel front desk. Anyone knows 10 minutes is not one hour, so when they did that, of course they would expect trouble. Also keep in mind that this thing was set up with the boys downstairs when the girl was expecting to get the money up front. So one reason they let the guy go so easily was because they figured she got her money already, no problem.
Anyway, I've seen behavior a bit like that in the past from girls at that location or ones like it. Just the most outrageous things possible in terms of refusing to give the services offered, and this from first-time ones. And paying up front does often (but not always) encourage that kind of thing. (I've also gotten amazing performances from ones I paid up front -- never say never).
In those cases, the ones that go very bad, Im pretty sure it's nothign to do with me personally -- maybe it's that the girl hates her job and this is her way of showing it, maybe she doesnt want to go with foreigners, maybe she's on some kind of drug that have her behaving like a nut (this was pretty certain for some--prob the most common factor).
Anyway, for what IC describes, one like that who turned me on a lot in the looks dept. (which I guess is the case since IC keeps going back to her despite the bad experiences), the first time with her I'd give a nice tip so she had a good attitude next time. If she took that tip, which we both know is above and beyond what's called for, and had a bad attitude the 2nd time, ok then that surely is no go.
IC -- one point you made that we're all aholes -- that may be, but there's degrees, and limits for most of us. I dont say that meaning to lecture more, just that its a rationale that doesn't really hold water. Take it a step further, if we're all aholes and what we think is BS, then why come here and ask what we think.
Anyway, that said, if it was me, I might also have left without paying. And I'm usually pretty generous, polite, respectful. There's times when it's just so obvious that they're only taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], you feel like a fool doing your part when they're refusing to hold up their end of the bargain. Also, for the critics here, there's ways a girl can signal her non-interest, like not smiling, turning her head, nodding no, etc. I'd be curious to see what the girl did at the moment IC picked her up. Smile? Or one of these non-interest signals?
The MO of the girl might suggest non-interest -- or it might suggest she just has quickly developed a very bad attitude. Or drug habit. Or whatever.
I had passed this place a few times and decided to pop in. I'm glad I did.
Ticket is 50k inclusive of steambath, sauna, showers.
The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.
First its not a happy ending MP. The massuests are dressed in white short sleeve button up shirts and matching trousers. You can see their obvious pantie line through their tight trousers.
Upstairs it smells like a hospital. Strong disinfectant smell. A pleasant suprise compared to other MP's. The beds and towel's are clean, Each booth has a fan.
You wear shorts and get a very strong sometimes painful deep tissue massage.
You can tell the massuest to go as hard or soft as you need. Imagine Thai Massage crossed with Shiatsu. Of course this depends on the skill of the massuest.
If you have any sore muscles that need a good massage then don't hesitate to go to this MP.
I make two observations about this whole exchange with In Country and others.
The gal in question was a street walker hanging around a known site near a bridge. Obviously such a SW has pimps and minders where there are criminal minds at work.
She was enthusiastic at first and at subsequent encounters this enthusiasm declined. With suitable awareness we ought to be able to discern this reduction in enthusiasm, question her and walk away if need be. Big head over little head and we all need to learn from In Country's experience.
Secondly with all that is available in Saigon why would you bother with a working gal from off the street? There is so much more to be had without the criminal elements and the risk of disease.
Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?
[QUOTE=Hoper]Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports? [/QUOTE]Mate it would be nice if you quote the street you found it on? . I have access to a few viet language forums and in addition to the english based forums, it would seem the going rate is a 100k tip for the girls for BJ places. So if you have found a place where 50k is 'happily' accepted then id like to know. When I mean happily accepted I don't mean that they don't make any complaints. I personally am 'soft hearted' where even if the girls have commented that they will do it for free or never talk about money, I always give the going rate.
[QUOTE=Hoper]Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?[/QUOTE]Hoper please share the location of this place. Always looking for a new place to go near my home in D3.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.
[/QUOTE]
Hi Mik,
Thanks for the info. Can you post the general location of this Quang Trung St. such as the District it's in? Diadiem has many listings for this street in various districts.
Thanks,
JD
[QUOTE=Hoper]Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price too. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?[/QUOTE]Congratulations on your find Hoper. 50k is a great and low tip for BBBJ and CIM, happy to hear to you got away with it and let us know how you are welcomed back next time.
'Hot Toc' does not actually mean 'Blow & Go', it means Haircut. 'Blow and Go' in VNese would be 'Thoi va di'. But that doesn't rhyme.
To answer your question, yes, many of us have had suggestions and posted reports, some including addresses, directions and maps. Have Fun!
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Hi Mik,
Thanks for the info. Can you post the general location of this Quang Trung St. such as the District it's in? Diadiem has many listings for this street in various districts.
Thanks,
JD[/QUOTE]Its in GV. Not sure of the exact address but its between Le Van Tho & way before Tan Son. Its on the RHS as you are heading towards 1A hyway. You can't do U turns as there are the small red/white barrier's. (Though you can still ride down the wrong side)
There is a funky looking hotel around 100m before it, Looks totally out of place, Use that as a landmark and slow down. Theres a rectangle sign Red background iirc on the pavement, I've often missed it and had to turn back.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I had passed this place a few times and decided to pop in. I'm glad I did.
Ticket is 50k inclusive of steambath, sauna, showers.
The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.
First its not a happy ending MP. The massuests are dressed in white short sleeve button up shirts and matching trousers. You can see their obvious pantie line through their tight trousers.
Upstairs it smells like a hospital. Strong disinfectant smell. A pleasant suprise compared to other MP's. The beds and towel's are clean, Each booth has a fan.
You wear shorts and get a very strong sometimes painful deep tissue massage.
You can tell the massuest to go as hard or soft as you need. Imagine Thai Massage crossed with Shiatsu. Of course this depends on the skill of the massuest.
If you have any sore muscles that need a good massage then don't hesitate to go to this MP.[/QUOTE]Guys,
This at first glance sound very good and I'm not saying its not a good find BUT just as a comparison. I go to a local place near q5 and I have noticed a few even towards q1 on dbp, but my local is a ticket of 70k for 1.5 hrs and I tipp the girl 100k. So if this place is 50k for an hr and its up towards GV then its a bit out of the way. My place is is on NCT towards cholon.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]Guys,
This at first glance sound very good and I'm not saying its not a good find BUT just as a comparison. I go to a local place near q5 and I have noticed a few even towards q1 on dbp, but my local is a ticket of 70k for 1.5 hrs and I tipp the girl 100k. So if this place is 50k for an hr and its up towards GV then its a bit out of the way. My place is is on NCT towards cholon.[/QUOTE]The guys who live near the city center this will be a bit of a hike, You have to go past the airport etc. Its convenient for me as I live about 10minute ride away. The main drag outside my house has about 8 hot toc's and numerous cafe's. I've slowed down to take a look as I ride past but have yet to see any nice young girls, only seen mutton dressed as lamb.
I'm not new to this even this is my virgin post.
I thought you were lucky enough to get out in one piece. First of all, it's illegal for you to do sex-cercise as this in VN or many other regions / parts of the world. Some acted tough and left lives behind for really nothing. They could cut your life short just to teach others, who unfairly treated their girls or disrespected their people, a lesson.
You can post all you want about some bad providers, etc. But keep in mind: you are taking advantages of cheap labor and cheap sex. It's a wild game and sometimes you may need luck to hit decent targets. Don't whine or cry out loud when you receive bad experience from a provider. If not happy, just donate your fair amount and get your butt outa there. In your case, you oughta pay them. You are a gentleman and specially from a western world. If you left bad remarks, stereotype would be eventually generated.
I personally attempted many times 'hit or miss'. Honestly, I missed pretty often. However, I must pay the prices at much higher. In Vegas / San Fran / Honolulu, I would pay $60-$70 for MS & $150-$200 for each girl at AMP. SWs still asked for $120-$160 FS. If I used escort, I'd pay generally $250-$400 for FS with the girl that I liked.
I thought with just $12, I would just make them impressed even I probably wouldn't return. We are mongers. They are prostitudes but they deserve some respect too. It's just a dangerous and risky job. Your real GF sometimes still don't satisfy you. Imagine these girls welcome several guys per day. Sometimes, they girls have bad days too.
PC Out.
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Tonight I went for a long ride, around 70kms, all around Saigon from Go Vap, down to Binh Chan and into D3.
I stopped by Son Tra hotel close to 10pm.Looking at the new lockers with keys hanging out of their locks,There was only 1 other customer in the complex when I arrived.
The steambath room was retiled with new light fittings, steam hose/tube and guard. I liked the tiled pictures of the artistic naked girls.
After the steambath I took a shower...In a renovated shower.
Downstairs and onto the massage.
I took potluck and got massuest named Kim #10. What a shit massage that turned out to be. Even shittier BJ. First she was telling me to pay her 400k. I told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off, Git di and pointed at the sign in 3 languages saying the massuest cannot ask for tip. She asked how much and I stuck 1 finger up for 100k. She still was trying for 400k. She said HJ is 200k. I give her a dose of Duma's and other profanities, I started to sit up and wrapped the towel around me.
She quickly sensed she was loosing a sale and tried for 300k. I am quite happy to pay 300k to my "usual girls" but not to this new one. I told her 200k and she wanted 300k, then 250k and realizing I was a regular took the 200k The bj was the shallowest bobbing I've ever had. I think I can go deeper on my cock and I cant even reach it!
Anyway I tried to slip my hand down the back of her skirt/shorts and she stopped me, pulled my hand out and placed it on her breast. This was ontop of her bra and shirt. So I go back to the skirt and she stops me again. Finally I play with her tit. But I'm not allowed to touch the nipple...I'm only allowed to squeeze it. Fuck me, what a total waste of time. I could have stopped off at a bakery and squeezed some fresh loaves of bread for free.
Before I left I told the guy and the girl behind the desk that her massage was terrible. Worst one I've ever had here. I told them I never want her to massage me again.
[quote=mik hcmc]tonight i went for a long ride, around 70kms, all around saigon from go vap, down to binh chan and into d3.
i stopped by son tra hotel close to 10pm.looking at the new lockers with keys hanging out of their locks,there was only 1 other customer in the complex when i arrived.
the steambath room was retiled with new light fittings, steam hose/tube and guard. i liked the tiled pictures of the artistic naked girls.
after the steambath i took a shower...in a renovated shower.
downstairs and onto the massage.
i took potluck and got massuest named kim #10. what a shit massage that turned out to be. even shittier bj. first she was telling me to pay her 400k. i told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off, git di and pointed at the sign in 3 languages saying the massuest cannot ask for tip. she asked how much and i stuck 1 finger up for 100k. she still was trying for 400k. she said hj is 200k. i give her a dose of duma's and other profanities, i started to sit up and wrapped the towel around me.
she quickly sensed she was loosing a sale and tried for 300k. i am quite happy to pay 300k to my "usual girls" but not to this new one. i told her 200k and she wanted 300k, then 250k and realizing i was a regular took the 200k the bj was the shallowest bobbing i've ever had. i think i can go deeper on my cock and i cant even reach it!
anyway i tried to slip my hand down the back of her skirt/shorts and she stopped me, pulled my hand out and placed it on her breast. this was ontop of her bra and shirt. so i go back to the skirt and she stops me again. finally i play with her tit. but i'm not allowed to touch the nipple...i'm only allowed to squeeze it. fuck me, what a total waste of time. i could have stopped off at a bakery and squeezed some fresh loaves of bread for free.
before i left i told the guy and the girl behind the desk that her massage was terrible. worst one i've ever had here. i told them i never want her to massage me again.[/quote]i'm sure sure if anyone has noticed but ther eis 2 massage places on dbp in q3. and on the surface they offer pretty good deals 60k for an hr and you get a free visit afterwards. however the massage is non therapeutic and the facilities are bad and the girls very average looking. so if you want a cheap experience then go there. i was feeling particuly generous and tipped 100k even for a non s3xual bad massage should have tipped 50k but well she did spend 1hr. usually i tip 100k for good massgae or a hj.
Took Dawgs advise and visited the MP off Tran Quang Kai. Excellent value. Paid 80k for ticket and 100k for the girl Went several times and had several girls. All different looks 5-7's Lu, Lan, Thi, and Kieu. Lan was perfect on a personal note. All gave excellent effort. One wouldn't allow pussy fingering Kieu but all others no problem. I became a daily regular much like Norm on "Cheers" and always had a great time chatting up the girls. No other foreigners that I saw. Clean, efficient, and great value. Also had some in hotel room service. 1 great and 1 so so. No shortage of P4P anywhere that I saw. Prices vary and most ask for more but 180K for a great BBCIMBJ was awesome and will return asap.
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22]Took Dawgs advise and visited the MP off Tran Quang Kai. Excellent value. Paid 80k for ticket and 100k for the girl Went several times and had several girls. All different looks 5-7's Lu, Lan, Thi, and Kieu. Lan was perfect on a personal note. All gave excellent effort. One wouldn't allow pussy fingering Kieu but all others no problem. I became a daily regular much like Norm on "Cheers" and always had a great time chatting up the girls. No other foreigners that I saw. Clean, efficient, and great value. Also had some in hotel room service. 1 great and 1 so so. No shortage of P4P anywhere that I saw. Prices vary and most ask for more but 180K for a great BBCIMBJ was awesome and will return asap.[/QUOTE]I normally frequent dinh bo linh hot tocs, and whilst I have had excellent experiences I decided to change girls as I felt I was getting too attached to one particular girl and that can only lead to bad places. I was think I have tried two different girls at the same establishment as such I expected a similar experience it a BBBJ, nothing too kinky. I also know from multiple web sources that is the norm on this street. So when my girl told me that wasnt on offere, I was a bit annoyed. I told her that that a BJ was the normal experience and that I wasnt a first timer, she insisted that wasnt the case in this shop. I got the feeling she was just being lazy and as a viet kieu and a foreigner I would just shut up and pay up as usual. That normally would be the case but as I thought about it more I thought that this would set a bad precedent as why would the girls give BJ when they can give merely HJ and get the same money, plus her attitude towards me, was bad thinking I wouldn't make an issue not being a local. So decided to make it an issue I told her that if she wasnt going to blow me, I'll leave, I went downstairs thinking id just pay the ticket and give her 50k tip, rather than the 100k. They refused that so I said fuck it, I'll just give 70k and leave, the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop. So my advice is don't expect a mcdonalds experience and even if 100 timesfore you got a certain standard, don't assume it will continue. For me I'll be confirming the service I'll be getting and I'll be paying the relevant price for the service delivered. I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shit
Ps I didn't touch her, but until the threat of my own violence arose did she stop her own violence towards me.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken] I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shit[/QUOTE]I know how you feel, i'm viet kieu too. And i've been getting BS experience lately! I went to two bars on HBT and NONE of the girls wanted to go out!! It's like there discriminating there own people!!
[QUOTE=MutantChicken] the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop.
Ps I didn't touch her, but until the threat of my own violence arose did she stop her own violence towards me.
[/QUOTE]
No doubt if you were a local and got this kind of treatment the girl would be wearing a couple bruises and out of pocket for the damages. Slapping girls around is a daily thing around here, I've seen many sporting black eyes, bruised cheeks, girls wearing sunglasses while mopping the floor in Metro and trying to cover it up with makeup.
I forgot to mention in my post that upon one occasion I walked in and this pretty lil thing is waiting and as I passed Lu I said hi Lu an without hessitation she jumps up and starts following us upstairs to the MP room. As we go in she asks "you want two?" and I was quite taken aback and said "uh no". What was I thinking...I should have doubled my fun...next time!
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22]I forgot to mention in my post that upon one occasion I walked in and this pretty lil thing is waiting and as I passed Lu I said hi Lu an without hessitation she jumps up and starts following us upstairs to the MP room. As we go in she asks "you want two?" and I was quite taken aback and said "uh no". What was I thinking...I should have doubled my fun...next time![/QUOTE]
Doubt if it will be double the fun, more like double the money for half the work.
Still cant beat Thailand or Phil's attitudes to p2p
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]I normally frequent dinh bo linh hot tocs, and whilst I have had excellent experiences I decided to change girls as I felt I was getting too attached to one particular girl and that can only lead to bad places. I was think I have tried two different girls at the same establishment as such I expected a similar experience it a BBBJ, nothing too kinky. I also know from multiple web sources that is the norm on this street. So when my girl told me that wasnt on offere, I was a bit annoyed. I told her that that a BJ was the normal experience and that I wasnt a first timer, she insisted that wasnt the case in this shop. I got the feeling she was just being lazy and as a viet kieu and a foreigner I would just shut up and pay up as usual. That normally would be the case but as I thought about it more I thought that this would set a bad precedent as why would the girls give BJ when they can give merely HJ and get the same money, plus her attitude towards me, was bad thinking I wouldn't make an issue not being a local. So decided to make it an issue I told her that if she wasnt going to blow me, I'll leave, I went downstairs thinking id just pay the ticket and give her 50k tip, rather than the 100k. They refused that so I said fuck it, I'll just give 70k and leave, the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop. So my advice is don't expect a mcdonalds experience and even if 100 timesfore you got a certain standard, don't assume it will continue. For me I'll be confirming the service I'll be getting and I'll be paying the relevant price for the service delivered. I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shit
[/QUOTE]Yes, mutant's story is very typical. I too have gone to BJ places multiple times with multiple girls and had always a great time and no problem. But then there will be one girl, and she'll fuck it up. I had one new girl in a shop I'd been to a hundred times before tell me she does not do BJ but insisted I fuck her for 500k. I told her no, only BJ's here and I will give her a normal tip. Walked out on her but downstairs they want to hear none of it and demand the usual 80k even after I told the boss what happened. I angrily gave her the 80k, nothing for the girl of course. I know that's the price if I want to come back. Really infuriating at the time and of course the girl was gone then next time I was there. Happened something like that other places too, I'm a regular and newbie girl can't or won't perform but they still want money but don't care about money for girl and girl is always gone next time.
JD
Last week end, near a place I went for dinner, there were 2 weird places next to each others, so I just tried. Thue guy told me that the first place was a bar, and the second one a massage parlor. I went inside, looked very cheap like a BBS. 80K for a session. I went upstairs, it was a kind of large room, with 4 or 5 basic massage bed (not real bed, just for one person to lie on), separated by simple curtains.
I could hear people just 2 meters from me, a sound of suction, like someone sucking very gluttonously, and also the sound of girl moaning. Later, I discovered that the girl was performing BJ while the moaning girl was the guy enjoying! Anyway, at that time, when I arrived, I couldn't understand what was happenning.
She asked me to get topless, and lie down. She was maybe 30 yo, and looked a bit tired. Then, she opened my shorts and boxer, and took out my p*** to start to clean it with a wet towel. I just let her do, to see what would happen. Then, she had a short but horrible cough, like she was having a throat disease. And then, she started to lick my balls. Before she went further, I stopped her, told her I just wanted normal massage. So she just made a massage, it was crap, like she had never done it, I think I would do much better. She had no strenght, and was obviously bored. Many times, she asked me if I was sure I didn't want her to BBBJ. No thanks. After that, I paid the 80K, gave her 20K tip.
So cheap for BBBJ. I guess she must be BJ maybe 10 poor local guys everyday, so it couldn't be more unsafe. I think with a condom I couldn't get excited. Maybe I'll try the bar next time. Anyway, just be careful.
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[QUOTE=Pppppppppp]Last week end, near a place I went for dinner, there were 2 weird places next to each others, so I just tried. Thue guy told me that the first place was a bar, and the second one a massage parlor. I went inside, looked very cheap like a BBS. 80K for a session. I went upstairs, it was a kind of large room, with 4 or 5 basic massage bed (not real bed, just for one person to lie on), separated by simple curtains.
I could hear people just 2 meters from me, a sound of suction, like someone sucking very gluttonously, and also the sound of girl moaning. Later, I discovered that the girl was performing BJ while the moaning girl was the guy enjoying! Anyway, at that time, when I arrived, I couldn't understand what was happenning.
She asked me to get topless, and lie down. She was maybe 30 yo, and looked a bit tired. Then, she opened my shorts and boxer, and took out my p*** to start to clean it with a wet towel. I just let her do, to see what would happen. Then, she had a short but horrible cough, like she was having a throat disease. And then, she started to lick my balls. Before she went further, I stopped her, told her I just wanted normal massage. So she just made a massage, it was crap, like she had never done it, I think I would do much better. She had no strenght, and was obviously bored. Many times, she asked me if I was sure I didn't want her to BBBJ. No thanks. After that, I paid the 80K, gave her 20K tip.
So cheap for BBBJ. I guess she must be BJ maybe 10 poor local guys everyday, so it couldn't be more unsafe. I think with a condom I couldn't get excited. Maybe I'll try the bar next time. Anyway, just be careful.
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Hey what's the deal with the Lam Van Ben cafe oms, are they still operating? A guy went out there on my tip looking for them and said there aren't any on that street. I drove past them not long ago and they were all there. Has anyone been around that way recently?
Heading soon to HCMC for a short stay of a couple of nights at a New World Hotel in Le Lai Street, District 1,.
Heard it is not much GF and noting this.
being first timer and not familair with the city and hotel surrounding is there any (reliable and providing a good degree of services) MP's nearby?
Seems to me that some rip off's are in town, so just want to avoid these or overpay.
Anyone experienced the massage services in the hotel?
[QUOTE=Wendella]Hey what's the deal with the Lam Van Ben cafe oms, are they still operating? A guy went out there on my tip looking for them and said there aren't any on that street. I drove past them not long ago and they were all there. Has anyone been around that way recently?[/QUOTE]Plenty of hot toc, a few standard cofee with young girls who chat with you, but some caphe om on ntt and lvl and thanks. That guy is just lazy.
Hi
Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.
Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?
Cheers for any info provided
TC
[QUOTE=Tiger Curry]Hi
Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.
Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?
Cheers for any info provided
TC[/QUOTE]
We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!
Hey bro, just arrived? How long u staying for? I can recommend a few massage joint, blow job parlours, etc. if you let me know which area you are staying in. I can even show you around if you want, no fee, but I am jobless just now so any coffees is on you ok lol!!!
Enable your private messaging m8, so we can chat as it is not fair to use this thread.
[QUOTE=Tiger Curry]Hi
Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.
Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?
Cheers for any info provided
TC[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek![/QUOTE]Thanks Twat !
[QUOTE=Tiger Curry]Hi
Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.
Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?
Cheers for any info provided
TC[/QUOTE]
Sorry not too familiar with the massage places. There's a lot of hot tocs out on Do Binh Lo (Binh Thanh district) that some members here seem to think are some of the best around. If you search on "Do Binh Lo" or else "DBL" you'll find info on those. Also some on Dien Bien Phu same district but supposedly not as good (girls less cute/young). I tried one of these once a few years ago but it's not my thing. Never did try the ones at DBL but they do seem a step up from DBP, from what I glimpsed while driving past them. Don't be too put off by Crazyazn's reply -- he might have been having a rough day, I'm sure he'll have ideas later... but his suggestion to read back in the forum is a good tip regardless.
[QUOTE=Tiger Curry]Thanks Twat ![/QUOTE]
People like you are typical examples of the dickheads we DON'T want to help.
Atleast make a effort to scroll down or if you can manage click back a page or 2. Failing that and you are too lazy to do that there is a search button on the top.
Had you used a bit of common sense and tried a search then posted a question I'm sure you will be busy reading the numerous replies.
I was going to offer you the names and address's of places where you get BBJCIM for the same price as a halfassed HJ in the city but after your reply honestly I'm not going to bother.
I just hope the other members here give you information not leading to the ladyboy and scamming motogirl's locations.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]People like you are typical examples of the dickheads we DON'T want to help.
Atleast make a effort to scroll down or if you can manage click back a page or 2. Failing that and you are too lazy to do that there is a search button on the top.
Had you used a bit of common sense and tried a search then posted a question I'm sure you will be busy reading the numerous replies.
I was going to offer you the names and address's of places where you get BBJCIM for the same price as a halfassed HJ in the city but after your reply honestly I'm not going to bother.
I just hope the other members here give you information not leading to the ladyboy and scamming motogirl's locations. [/quote]Mik,
Did you have a bad day hahah. But I totally agree with you.
[QUOTE=D Cups]Has anyone seen any busty MP girls in their mongering? I know, I know they are not known for this but if you find the rare gem with the big tits kindly let us know. Many thanks![/QUOTE]Damn, I did see some MP girls with really big tits recently. They looked and felt great and were really cheap, with pictures too!
JD
Anyone visited a massage parlor by the name of "Ð? Nh? T"? I believe that translates to "First". Anyway, heard some great things about the place and know it is located on Hoang Van Thu in the Tan Binh district. Think they just do HJ but they give a good massage and have attractive girls. If anyone has seen it and has a rough idea of where the place is located along that road, please PM me.
I heard the current rate is 70k for a ticket, 100k tip. If anyone decides to visit, remember DO NOT tip more than 100k. 100k is a good tip and most likely if the girl looks unhappy w/ the tip it is because you're a foreigner and they assume you're a sucker. The reason foreigners get hassled is because they usually give in when the girl begins to ***** and moan. So don't give in.
The Vietnamese tones didn't show in my previous post. Here's the name w/o the tones:
De Nhat
[QUOTE=Carl Raze]The Vietnamese tones didn't show in my previous post. Here's the name w/o the tones:
De Nhat[/QUOTE]This is 'the first' hotel establishment. It's a 4 star Hotel which is pretty nice if you want to be close to the airport way. The massage parlor of the same name is directly across the road (same owner), and is pretty much the same as all the other 'touchy' massage places in town.
The girls come and go, the rooms all have glass panels half way; so really how much fun can you really have.
Ticket is around 70k or 80k and then tip is up to you. 100k is probably a bit low if the girl gives you some extras. But that's up to each person's discretion.
I'm still looking for an MP offering FS. Any finds?
Getting tired of the regular haunts and looking for an easy in and out service place.
BTW, went to my regular place on Nguyen Phi Khanh today and found what appears to be a new Hot Toc place on the street. Address i think is 75. I came out of my place and a guy outside tried to get me into this new place. It's been a while since I can go back to back within an hour so I passed. I'm curious to see the new digs though.
[QUOTE=Dawg415]I'm still looking for an MP offering FS. Any finds?
Getting tired of the regular haunts and looking for an easy in and out service place.
BTW, went to my regular place on Nguyen Phi Khanh today and found what appears to be a new Hot Toc place on the street. Address i think is 75. I came out of my place and a guy outside tried to get me into this new place. It's been a while since I can go back to back within an hour so I passed. I'm curious to see the new digs though.[/QUOTE]
Not sure this is still valid but some time ago I went to this MP (dont know the name) on Tran Nhat Duat, not far from your Hot Toc place.
This is the regular MP (HJ standard) but if you negotiate, then she would come to your place for some actions. I think they wont do FS at the premises. I dont remember her exact name but I think it started with T. She is/was a bit chubby for me but provided enthusiastic BBBJs and a multiple number of FSs for the fees.
[QUOTE=Mash Potatoes]This is 'the first' hotel establishment. It's a 4 star Hotel which is pretty nice if you want to be close to the airport way. The massage parlor of the same name is directly across the road (same owner), and is pretty much the same as all the other 'touchy' massage places in town.
The girls come and go, the rooms all have glass panels half way; so really how much fun can you really have.
Ticket is around 70k or 80k and then tip is up to you. 100k is probably a bit low if the girl gives you some extras. But that's up to each person's discretion.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. I think I'll check the place out sometime over the next few days.
Hi,
I'm new here. I'm wondering if anyone can direct me to a nice MP w/HJ nearby Beautiful Saigon hotel (62 Bui Vien St., Dist.1)? TIA
Felix, if your hotel has a "health club" you can probably find what you're looking for (and more) right there. Most of the decent hotels in District 1 seem to be so equipped.
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]Hi,
I'm new here. I'm wondering if anyone can direct me to a nice MP w/HJ nearby Beautiful Saigon hotel (62 Bui Vien St., Dist.1)? TIA[/QUOTE]Walk 100m to Pham Ngu Lao and try Liberty or Vien Dong Hotel (?) - don't pay anything over 200,000 tip to the girl (not including the 100 or so to the desk). Should be lower but you're in touristville.
[QUOTE=El Mujerista]Felix, if your hotel has a "health club" you can probably find what you're looking for (and more) right there. Most of the decent hotels in District 1 seem to be so equipped.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. No, the hotel does not have one.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]Walk 100m to Pham Ngu Lao and try Liberty or Vien Dong Hotel (?) - don't pay anything over 200,000 tip to the girl (not including the 100 or so to the desk). Should be lower but you're in touristville.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. I managed to find the hotels you mentioned on google. they are really nearby. maybe i should change my hotel booking to either of these and only tip 200k :)
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek![/QUOTE]What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.
[QUOTE=Warcomet]What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.[/QUOTE]
Nice first post Warcomet, Welcome to ISG VN.
[sarcasm] I'm sure everyone's going to go out of their way to help you now. No doubt you've read all the posts in the VN thread and you will be sharing your discovered places soon...[/sarcasm]
[QUOTE=Warcomet]What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.[/QUOTE]"we" all on this forum do not really have anything in common. "We" are all just looking for good sex at a reasonable price. I believe everyone on this forum has the right to ask questions. If a member does not want to reply, why not just ignore the "stupid" question?
Warcomet, Nearly all the members here want to help others and to get info as well. But standard forum etiquette, not only ISG forum but all forums whether travel, photography, software help, etc. expect that a new user or new member will not just come on a board and start asking whatever questions come to mind or very general questions or even specific questions, without first having gone through existing posts and contributions to see if the info is already there, which it usually is in a forum of this type.
People often take a lot of time and care with their posts and info, and to have it ignored when someone new comes on the board and asks for the same info that is already there, is considered impolite and will get them a rude response because their question in itself was considered rude.
Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:
1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?
2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?
3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?
JD
[QUOTE=Warcomet]What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.[/QUOTE]
Obviously you are not that person! For your first post you choose to initiate a confrontation instead of providing any information about your experience in HCMC. You are a classic example of lurker, who provides no prevalent information, leeches information and instigates fellow members! So before you go attacking anyone else, take your own advice! Before you look like hypocrite & an a$$hole!
[QUOTE=Warcomet]What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.[/QUOTE]This guy is really bad on a number of levels, firstly he pulls a post a whole month back to argue a point next her talks about helping but instead for his very first post provides a zero vaue post.
I for one thank everyone who has in the past provided helpful information, but due to posters like him and leechers, or leachers who feel that they have a right to spoil the market, will not provide any new infause I feel that on a number of levels all information can be found via 3-4 forumns and going back the few thousand pages on each forum.
Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:
1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?.this one definatey I wouldn't help
2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?.this one possib; y because he at east bothered to learn a bit of the language
3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?
This one sound just like a loser and wouldn't be any fun anyway.
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]Obviously you are not that person! For your first post you choose to initiate a confrontation instead of providing any information about your experience in HCMC. You are a classic example of lurker, who provides no prevalent information, leeches information and instigates fellow members! So before you go attacking anyone else, take your own advice! Before you look like hypocrite & an a$$hole![/QUOTE]Well, well, well. Some people should indeed understand that info being provided on this forum is valuable information provided by individuals that would like to assist others of details on pleasures available in HCMC.
If "New Bees" are to lazy to scroll back down the pages. To find all the answers on their queries. Well. Then the best option is to visit the local Tourist Center in District 1. SAD!
[QUOTE=Johndao]Warcomet, Nearly all the members here want to help others and to get info as well. But standard forum etiquette, not only ISG forum but all forums whether travel, photography, software help, etc. Expect that a new user or new member will not just come on a board and start asking whatever questions come to mind or very general questions or even specific questions, without first having gone through existing posts and contributions to see if the info is already there, which it usually is in a forum of this type.
People often take a lot of time and care with their posts and info, and to have it ignored when someone new comes on the board and asks for the same info that is already there, is considered impolite and will get them a rude response because their question in itself was considered rude.
Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:
1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?
2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?
3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?
JD[/QUOTE]The second paragraph explains it well. But it still feels like picking on a retard to me to flame people like that. I understand that some can't help it though. Thanks john dao.
[QUOTE=Warcomet] Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? [/QUOTE]
Can you offer us any tips, reports on anything?
What are your recommendations of MP's? FSMP's? Bia Oms? BJ Cafes?
With a opening like that I'm sure your a expert on the subject and cant wait to tell others about your adventures
Perhaps a better opening is something like
Hi, I'm new here, Ive just joined up the forum, i'd like to get some information regarding XXXXXXXX
I did a search for XXXXXXX but have nothing recent. Has anyone got any new upto date information?
or
This is my first post. I went to a XXXXX and got XXXXX I paid $$$$ and had a great time. I recomend anyone to go there an see for yourself.
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar my friend
I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Can you offer us any tips, reports on anything?
What are your recommendations of MP's? FSMP's? Bia Oms? BJ Cafes?
With a opening like that I'm sure your a expert on the subject and cant wait to tell others about your adventures[/QUOTE]
Totally agree with you mik!! The problem arises from individuals who feel that we are obligated to spoon feed them information. Yet themselves have contributed nothing to the forum and ask redundant questions. Yes we can ignore these individuals, but if we don't call them out. When will it stop? Now i may not be seasoned monger such as yourself, MutantChicken, Wendella, and Johndao. And my contribution may seem minuscule in comparison, but everything that i have learned has been acquired through research through these forums. I am willing to help everyone, as long as they willing to help themselves!
[QUOTE=Greywolf69]I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.[/QUOTE]
I feel like Vien Dong Hotel has the pretties girls for my taste.
[QUOTE=Greywolf69]I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.[/QUOTE]
You should try Dai Nam. It's on Tran Hung Dao next to Nguyen Kim (Big Electronic store)
Now we should understand that everyone has different a definitiion of "beautiful/pretty", but try FESTIVAL on Cao Thang Street, they have the best looking girls in town (at least for the Asian eye anyway)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What appeals to one won't appeal to another. Perhaps drop into a Hot Toc? there are some pretty girls (and not so pretty girls in my opinion) Since your not worried about service etc etc. The massages range from mild to wild.
Where are you located? or willing to travel? If your a tourist then are you willing to get out of D1/D3 area?
This would help make it easier to find a place with "pretty" girls.
Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.
Nice tall around 165cm, slender body, thin arms but very strong, Long hair, just a hint of makeup, nice nails, feet, legs. She would have been a great spinner. Weighed 43kg she told me.
I was hinting at a takeout but she wasn't interested.
Their uniform was a red sexy 1 piece mini dress with the chinese traditional style top. The bottom of the skirt ended around halfway up her slender thighs. When she stood with her legs appart you can catch a slight glimpse of the rest of her legs. However like all massage places they have those cockblocking shorts sewn/built in.
Their massage is the type where you sit in a chair and soak your feet in a foot bath for a few minutes whilst sipping on a beverage of your choice and looking at the tv, then they massage the legs through a towel, then sit next to you and massage your arms, shoulders and back while your sitting upright. Then to the lower back you lie down on the couch. You don't lie down on a bed, rather the chair and the feet poufs.
Great massage and great conversation. Theres about 30+ girls there and I'm sure you can find something to your liking.
There is a standard fee inc tip. I cant remember exactly what the damage was but was around 200k for 1.5hrs inc drink.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]
Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.
[/QUOTE]
We heard about a year ago about massage at the Superbowl but I never went there. My recollection is that more was on offer from a mamasan. Are there several places there?
Thanks for all the suggestions! I have tried Vien Dong and personally I think it's hit or miss. I do notice that when it comes time to tip, it is never enough. That's why I never negotiate the tip ahead of time, and I base my tips on how well the girl does and her enthusiam. They always plead for more and when you don't gI've, their mood changes. I will be arriving in saigon in a few days.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What appeals to one won't appeal to another. Perhaps drop into a Hot Toc? there are some pretty girls (and not so pretty girls in my opinion) Since your not worried about service etc etc. The massages range from mild to wild.
Where are you located? or willing to travel? If your a tourist then are you willing to get out of D1/D3 area?
This would help make it easier to find a place with "pretty" girls.
Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.
Nice tall around 165cm, slender body, thin arms but very strong, Long hair, just a hint of makeup, nice nails, feet, legs. She would have been a great spinner. Weighed 43kg she told me.
I was hinting at a takeout but she wasn't interested.
Their uniform was a red sexy 1 piece mini dress with the chinese traditional style top. The bottom of the skirt ended around halfway up her slender thighs. When she stood with her legs appart you can catch a slight glimpse of the rest of her legs. However like all massage places they have those cockblocking shorts sewn/built in.
Their massage is the type where you sit in a chair and soak your feet in a foot bath for a few minutes whilst sipping on a beverage of your choice and looking at the tv, then they massage the legs through a towel, then sit next to you and massage your arms, shoulders and back while your sitting upright. Then to the lower back you lie down on the couch. You don't lie down on a bed, rather the chair and the feet poufs.
Great massage and great conversation. Theres about 30+ girls there and I'm sure you can find something to your liking.
There is a standard fee inc tip. I cant remember exactly what the damage was but was around 200k for 1.5hrs inc drink.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]We heard about a year ago about massage at the Superbowl but I never went there. My recollection is that more was on offer from a mamasan. Are there several places there?[/QUOTE]
There is/was a upstairs massage that was closed for renovations. Not sure if its reopened or not. A week or so ago I went riding past and saw a few guys sitting outside the windows on the roof where the massage parlour is located upstairs. It had looked like it was still closed.
The chinese themed one is located on ground floor opposite the Seiko/Orient watch shop, next door to a golf center?
[QUOTE=Member #2234]Now we should understand that everyone has different a definitiion of "beautiful/pretty", but try FESTIVAL on Cao Thang Street, they have the best looking girls in town (at least for the Asian eye anyway)[/QUOTE]
Which address is that Festival? If I remember correctly there's actually TWO DIFFERENT karaokes each named Festival a few doors apart from each other on Cao Thang.
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD[/QUOTE]
whereabouts is that John?
Wendella m8, it is the festival near to the Ng Thi Minh Khai end, all BLUE building and has a restaurant downstairs aswell
That room looks familiar hahaha.
I went for a ride around that area and found around another 6-8 more. I'll have to drop into each one and see what they have to offer.
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]That room looks familiar hahaha.
I went for a ride around that area and found around another 6-8 more. I'll have to drop into each one and see what they have to offer.[/QUOTE]I have created a monster your addicted to the FS MP now!
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD[/QUOTE]John,
Where is it, exactly, and what is its name. Going to be there in about 45 days, and would like to check it out. Also would like to buy you some drinks and thank you for all your beautiful pictures and Artwork! Let me know if it can be arranged, as I feel I owe you one.
Thanks
Hi guys,
I have been reading through this forum and got the impression, that unlike BKK, MPs offering extras in HCMC are fairly rare and hit and miss.
Would someone in the know pls contribute a list of reliable / reputable FS MPs with adresses?
I understand that traditional VN MPs always offer a HJ ("What is a massage without a HE")
I don't mind paying well for good service, but don't want to risk diappointment.
I am sure, that a whole generation of first time VN visitors like me would be eternally grateful!
DS
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.[/QUOTE]
That's no MP room, it looks more like your bed room to me. And how do i know this, you have your picture with the sexy girl on top of your bed! SHOW OFF!! LOL!!
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]I have created a monster your addicted to the FS MP now![/QUOTE]
hahah Yup, your the one to blame mate.
I had been trying to find these places for close to 2yrs.
The 2nd MP we went to, if you continue further down you will see about another 5-6 MP's. If you turn right and "go around the block" back to the first one there are more. It seems to be a concentration of them. One place I went past guys were getting actual hair cuts.....
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD[/QUOTE]
This MP room was better than most hotel rooms I had in the past, wonder if I could stay here all night instead. ha ha
PT
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]hahah Yup, your the one to blame mate.
I had been trying to find these places for close to 2yrs.
The 2nd MP we went to, if you continue further down you will see about another 5-6 MP's. If you turn right and "go around the block" back to the first one there are more. It seems to be a concentration of them. One place I went past guys were getting actual hair cuts.[/QUOTE]After a few positive reviews on the barber shops from guys I introduced them earlier I decided to try them again. I was told there was a gal nmed vy that gave a porn star experience we are talking about anal and gagging BJ etc so I decided to check her out. She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. HE HCMC MIK does she have a big hairy mole on ther arm?
I had a bit of a frosty welcome because I spoke better vietnamese and I didn't look like the usual customers, they thought I might be police. Apparently the boss doenst welcome local vietnamese, more due to possible crackdown rather than any racist elements though it wouldn't suprise me if it was also partly true. So after I showed that I wasnt a local I was shown the entire selection, it was a Monday and apparently many girl take the day off, I chose a young girl named trang. She looked quite good but upon closer expection had a few minor flaws but perfectly acceptable, she looks better than the pic posted by the samster who used toads services. She was very accomdating nice deep BJ, allowed me to finger her even play with her ass, but because it was so tight I didn't fuck her. After round one I convinced her to get another condom and go again. All up I w sthere 1. 5 hrs and hence was chaged 150k for the shop rooms, it 100k per hr, if you go over the hr you pay extra. I then told the girl that because she was so accomadating id give her a higher tip than the uual 400k, I gave her 500k, she complained a little bit that I went two times so it was a higher tip. I stuck to my guns and left, she complained in a funway and it wasnt mood destroying, she told me that she made 2 mill a day, thats 50-60mill a month, so don't start overpaying thinking these girls are poor, they make 10-20times the monthly salary.
By the way I drove around and saw at least another 6 shops, some with cute girls seen from the outside. In summary its good service, attractive girls for a cost of 400k tip and 100k to the shop for 1 hr room hire.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken] She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. HE HCMC MIK does she have a big hairy mole on ther arm?[/QUOTE]
Yes, thats her. a large brown birthmark/mole on her forearm. Didn't see any hair though. Isn't it supposed to be good luck to have a hairy mole? Her curves are great, makes a change from the skinny ones. "More cushion for the pushin"
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]I had a bit of a frosty welcome because I spoke better vietnamese and I didn't look like the usual customers, [/QUOTE]
Thats because your not a "round eye" or "hap-moon (half moon) round eye"/korean LOL
To avoid stepping on the toes of the regulars who live in the area, I want to make a suggestion to anyone going to to Southern Vietnam on vacation.
A business that offers steam bath/sauna/massage almost always equates to a happy ending for negotiated tip.
As far as I'm concerned, you should tip what you like in tourist areas. Locals should be able to fend for themselves in the other areas. That said, you'd be silly to give the 500,000 they automatically ask. Locals and even asians from other countries never pay that much. They're used to cheap massa.
200,000 will be taken by most, just tell them you're okay without the extra service and they'll cave for the tip. That said, I found a better tip gets better service.
Q
[QUOTE=Quinten]To avoid stepping on the toes of the regulars who live in the area, I want to make a suggestion to anyone going to to Southern Vietnam on vacation.
A business that offers steam bath/sauna/massage almost always equates to a happy ending for negotiated tip.
As far as I'm concerned, you should tip what you like in tourist areas. Locals should be able to fend for themselves in the other areas. That said, you'd be silly to give the 500,000 they automatically ask. Locals and even asians from other countries never pay that much. They're used to cheap massa.
200,000 will be taken by most, just tell them you're okay without the extra service and they'll cave for the tip. That said, I found a better tip gets better service.
Q[/QUOTE]Yes indeed why pay 500k when you can get full sex for 500k, further why tip 200k when 100k is the accepted norm, unless you are a total idiot who believes spending money is the only way to buy acceptance, and yes it is normal tip 100k in tourit areas, its just the girl expect 200k from stupid tourists.
Though there are many places you can get much cheaper services outside of d1, but some like me who visit hcmc once or twice a year tend to be worried about the safety and transportion. So most of us just have to be happy with tourist prices.._-
A sex tour operator (AKA toad service) is taking advantage of this to provide access to these local places. After failing to promote his services on sbf with clones, he's now spamming in youtuB. Saying it'll get you local prices, but from how I see it, he's trying to ripped off people. Example; 800k for FS massage service (based on other fr here, it should be 500-600k) + 400k for his transport service, that's 1. 2m for a FS. Which is about the same price you can get in d1 without all the hassle of travelling.
I recall he used one of MC fr in his forum, posing one of his client. Anyone thinking of taking up his service do beware.
I won't quote them, you can see their comments below.
First to Mutant: Mutant, I consider you a good Forum friend and a fellow value-conscious monger in the same vein as myself. I think Quinten's report was accurately and respectfully written, although I don't fully agree with him. Your response to him tough was a bit harsh (bad day?) in my view. Quinten is right when he writes that he doesn't want to step on our toes and that those in tourist areas should tip what they like. It really does not affect us because we don't monger in those tourist areas. VN can be a difficult and intimidating place at first, even for experienced mongers in Asia.
To Quinten: Thanks for your effort. Yes, 100k is the standard tip in the central area of HCMC for a CIM BBBJ. A bit away from the center it is more like 50 or 60k. In tourist areas in the core center it is whatever tourists and the unadventurous want to pay, 500k, 250k whatever.
The Meaning of a Tip: A tip is not a fee nor a charge. Tips can not be negotiated in advance. That would be a fee or a charge. For example, in the USA, restaurant customers are expected to add a tip to the bill for service. This is typically 15% of the bill. In places where this is already added to the bill, such as at certain hotels and restaurants here in HCMC, it's referred to as a service charge, not a tip. A tip is something added after, for good or acceptable service. You can not negotiate a tip beforehand in order to receive better service. You can negotiate a higher fee or charge and hope to get better service for it.
In Vietnam in general, providers asking for money to perform a service such as HJ or BJ during/after massage is not normal. This may come as a surprise to many of you because you may always be asked. That's because you are not going to 'normal' places but to those 'special' places that cater to tourists and newbies who don't know or understand (or maybe they don't care) what's up.
Added to the above, I don't believe that the girls who are working in these places where the bosses allow (encourage?) them ask exorbitant fees in advance are allowed to keep all this money. I think it is a way for the big cheeses to earn high profits at the expense of the girls, and that's why many of the best providers work at standard places where they actually keep all their tips (100k per customer).
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]I won't quote them, you can see their comments below.
First to Mutant: Mutant, I consider you a good Forum friend and a fellow value-conscious monger in the same vein as myself. I think Quinten's report was accurately and respectfully written, although I don't fully agree with him. Your response to him tough was a bit harsh (bad day?) in my view. Quinten is right when he writes that he doesn't want to step on our toes and that those in tourist areas should tip what they like. It really does not affect us because we don't monger in those tourist areas. VN can be a difficult and intimidating place at first, even for experienced mongers in Asia.
To Quinten: Thanks for your effort. Yes, 100k is the standard tip in the central area of HCMC for a CIM BBBJ. A bit away from the center it is more like 50 or 60k. In tourist areas in the core center it is whatever tourists and the unadventurous want to pay, 500k, 250k whatever.
The Meaning of a Tip: A tip is not a fee nor a charge. Tips can not be negotiated in advance. That would be a fee or a charge. For example, in the USA, restaurant customers are expected to add a tip to the bill for service. This is typically 15% of the bill. In places where this is already added to the bill, such as at certain hotels and restaurants here in HCMC, it's referred to as a service charge, not a tip. A tip is something added after, for good or acceptable service. You can not negotiate a tip beforehand in order to receive better service. You can negotiate a higher fee or charge and hope to get better service for it.
In Vietnam in general, providers asking for money to perform a service such as HJ or BJ during/after massage is not normal. This may come as a surprise to many of you because you may always be asked. That's because you are not going to 'normal' places but to those 'special' places that cater to tourists and newbies who don't know or understand (or maybe they don't care) what's up.
Added to the above, I don't believe that the girls who are working in these places where the bosses allow (encourage?) them ask exorbitant fees in advance are allowed to keep all this money. I think it is a way for the big cheeses to earn high profits at the expense of the girls, and that's why many of the best providers work at standard places where they actually keep all their tips (100k per customer).
JD[/QUOTE]Yes maybe I am having a bad day or bad year. My whole point is even in d1, the whole group of massage places found there are not created purely for tourists and foreigners. Many local people go there as well, and they also tip 100k for a HJ, its just that girls kno that if they whine and whinge and make sad faces etc, foreigners will tip more. Its fake emotional response. Its not like 100k isn't enuff. All you need to do is say its not enuff and the atm will spit out more money.
Don't mistake, fake emotions with real unhappyness. Eg tip 100k = whineing but they will still ask you to see them again, tip 50k and they will refuse to see you and give you bad service if forced, tip 200k and they think sucker!
Take my comments as you will, but why pay 200k when 100k gets you the same service and some respect for knowing local pices.
Hi Felix, I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]
I recall he used one of MC fr in his forum, posing one of his client. Anyone thinking of taking up his service do beware.[/QUOTE]
what is "MC fr"?
which forum?
[QUOTE=Wendella]Hi Felix, I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
What is "MC fr"?
which forum?[/QUOTE]Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267[/url]
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
[QUOTE]Guys something 2 share!
After a few positive reviews on full service barber shops from ah sam, i decided to try them. I was told there was a gal nmed vy that gave a porn star experience we are talking about anal and gagging bj etc so i decided to check her out. She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. I had a bit f a frosty welcome because i spoke better vietnamese and i didnt look like the usual customers, the thought i might be police. Apparently the boss doenst welcome local vietnamese, more due to possible crackdown rather than any racist elements though it wouldnt suprise me if it was also partly true. So after i showed that i wasnt a local i was shown the entire selection, it was a monday and apparently many giake the day off, i chose a young girl named trang...she looked quite good but upon closer expection had a few minor flaws but perfectly acceptable, she looks great!!
She was very accomdatong nice deep bbbj, allowed me to finger her even play with her asshole, but because it was so tight i didnt fuck her. Afetr round one i convinced her to get another condom and go again. All up i was there 1.5 hrs and hence was chaged 150k for the shop rooms, it 100k per hr, if u go over the hr u pay extra. I then told the girl that because she was so accomadating id give her a higher tip than the uual 700k, i gave her 800k, she complained a little bit that i went two times so it was a higher tip. I stuck to my guns and left, she complained in afunway and it wasnt mood destroying, she told me that she made 2 mill a day, thats 50-60mill a month, so dont start overpaying thinking these girls are poor, they make 10-20times the monthly salary.
By the way i went around and saw at least another 6 shops, some with cute girls seen from the outside. In summary its godo service, attractive girls for a cost of 700k tip and 100k to the shop for 1 hr room hire.[/QUOTE]Taken from [url]http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Wendella]Hi Felix,
I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
What is "MC fr"?
Which forum?[/QUOTE]Mutant Chicken Field Report?
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267[/url]
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
Taken from [url]http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.html[/url][/QUOTE]Man the guy just cut and paste my report, change it to the price he wants to charge and puts my name, even keeping my typos.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]Man the guy just cut and paste my report, change it to the price he wants to charge and puts my name, even keeping my typos.[/QUOTE]
yeah i had a look and left a few messages. Sounds like he's catering to "mummy's boys" who are too scared to get out and have a look for themselves.
People like that deserved to get ripped off. Same thing with touts in BKK on Suk with their fliers of girls. If you go with a tout expect to be ripped off.
He's preying on the insecurity of newbies. I doubt he has as much business as he claims, but posting them on youtube seems to be getting other nations attention.
What really puts me off is that he uses his client face, think this poor chap had no idea he's on youtuB.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_TKZpHBkw[/url]
HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD[/QUOTE]
You post pictures of the most beautiful girls on all the SE Asia boards. Thanks for blessing the board with this most generous offering. I normally don’t do kudos post but this girl is simply stunning.
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267[/url]
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
Taken from [url]http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I guess anyone who spots one of his unscrupulous posts promoting his business should let people there know who he is and what he's about. I got a PM from a guy who said he'd posted pics of his friends that he took when they were out together and put those on the site, did that without permission and against their wishes. Obviously this is a really bad guy. People deserve to hear the truth. To continue with the terrible behavior he showed on that other forum, even after everyone was complaining about it very loudly, and also the bad behavior on his site, it seems he must have some mental problems that make him always want to get attention by behaving badly, cheating people and treating people disrespectfully.
[QUOTE=Wendella]I guess anyone who spots one of his unscrupulous posts promoting his business should let people there know who he is and what he's about. I got a PM from a guy who said he'd posted pics of his friends that he took when they were out together and put those on the site, did that without permission and against their wishes. Obviously this is a really bad guy. People deserve to hear the truth. To continue with the terrible behavior he showed on that other forum, even after everyone was complaining about it very loudly, and also the bad behavior on his site, it seems he must have some mental problems that make him always want to get attention by behaving badly, cheating people and treating people disrespectfully.[/QUOTE]I do think he has a mental issue, split personality maybe. In this vid you can see his client obviously didn't want to be in the vid even warning him, but he just kept finding chances to take shot of the face.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV3LC1KHeO0[/url]
BTW this shop is Tulip or Rose?
Perhaps we can make a booking. Then we can have a "sit down"
Hopefully we can teach him how to write his own english stories
[QUOTE=D Cups]Has anyone seen any MP girls (or bar girls or any other available Vietnamese girls) recently with larger than average boobs? I will be going there in March and want schtick the schlonger between some shapely Asian orbs :) D Cups, preferably..slim 'n stacked! :) Thanks![/QUOTE]Yeah I have seen lots, and it only cost me 300k with photos.
looks like our replies have been deleted. I've been blocked from replying now.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]looks like our replies have been deleted. I've been blocked from replying now.[/QUOTE]Ya, he's been deleting and pretending nothing happen. He seems to enjoy using his own clone to say he's a gangster, which I think he's a nut case.
Can't we just ignore Nibbler and Ah Sam and his site and bogus game? Why is it so interesting that so many have to comment? Does anyone have any real experiences or pictures they would like to post? It seems that fakers and liars on this forum can draw endless interest but real stuff? Ahhh, so so. . . . Intelligent, California Son. . . etc. . . Ah Sam. . . . fascinating, just fabulous.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Can't we just ignore Nibbler and Ah Sam and his site and bogus game? Why is it so interesting that so many have to comment? Does anyone have any real experiences or pictures they would like to post? It seems that fakers and liars on this forum can draw endless interest but real stuff? Ahhh, so so.... Intelligent, California Son... Etc... Ah Sam.... Fascinating, just fabulous.
JD[/QUOTE]John,
The reasons I find it necessary to bring up the issue of ah sam and his bullshit is the fact that I believe that this forumn is designed to inform and educate the masses regarding what to do AND what to avoid. And whilst I ahve in the past tried do my bit regarding locations an pricing, I'm frustrated with idiot who decide that its their right t use my information and then ruin my playground, as such I have decided not to inform, but I still think that I can do good my warning others of dodgy practic in VN.
I am not a fan of taking pictures I don't mind being a voyeur however and please continue with your great work.
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]I do think he has a mental issue, split personality maybe. In this vid you can see his client obviously didn't want to be in the vid even warning him, but he just kept finding chances to take shot of the face.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV3LC1KHeO0[/url]
BTW this shop is Tulip or Rose?[/QUOTE]
they took it down.... Is there another vid? What cross street is it on?
[QUOTE=Johndao]HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD[/QUOTE]
Johndao,
You always find the gems in Vietnam, first pretty Thao and now this beauty. I'm sure the ISG Lurkers are stumbling over each other to find her, and show her the photos on here hoping that she will feel so indebted that she will accept their marriage proposals and visa sponsorship. :D
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]they took it down. Is there another vid? What cross street is it on?[/QUOTE]He took out the chap in the vid. Here's the updated one
[url]http://www.YoutuB.com/watch? V=MOhvSam3VjE[/url]
Based on the list made by Singapore bros, this should be the address
7A, Giai Phong Street, Ward 4, Tan Binh District, Ho Chi Minh City
Maybe MC, Mik or the senior bros can confirm the address.
[QUOTE=Felix Sing]He took out the chap in the vid. Here's the updated one
[url]http://www.YoutuB.com/watch? V=MOhvSam3VjE[/url]
[/QUOTE]
link dosn't work.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]link dosn't work.[/QUOTE]maybe there's an error in the copy & paste. It should be youtube not youtub. Anyway just search "sex shop hcm" in youtube, you should be able to find.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]link dosn't work.[/QUOTE]Here is the correct link
[url]http://www.youtuB.com/watch?v=MOhvSam3VjE[/url]
change "B." to "be."
Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards
[QUOTE=Samurai Life]Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards[/QUOTE]Please remove addresses from your post as I don't want the polie and idiots from ruining the premisies, this should be kept relatively discrete.
[QUOTE=Samurai Life]Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.[/QUOTE]
I can understand your quandary (mik & Samurai Life), but withholding information about these areas defeats the whole purpose of these forums. Aren't we all here to educate are self's about the wonders of HCMC? Do we not all appreciate the time a member post a review or promotes a new location for mongering? And YES, there are many many unscrupulous individuals out there. But why punish everyone? When an individual post a request or PMs you, don't just blatantly ignore them. Consider there position, a) do they contribute to the forum regularly? b) what are their contributions?
One of the predominant impressions i get from you is "isolationism". Your ideology can only be detrimental to yourself and this forum. In doing so, you limit the influx of information on this site. Many of your post are reviews about experiences, but yet you are unwilling to provide the location of these establishments. I fail to see your logic there. I hope that you find some wisdom by understanding all sides of the situation at hand. To take into account special circumstances in which you perceive is morally justified may not be right for this given situation.
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]I can understand your quandary (mik & Samurai Life), but withholding information about these areas defeats the whole purpose of these forums.[/QUOTE]
I'm not withholding any information. There are many members who enjoy going to these places and have shared reports. What have been their replies to your questions?
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]Aren't we all here to educate are self's about the wonders of HCMC? Do we not all appreciate the time a member post a review or promotes a new location for mongering? [/QUOTE]
I very much look forward to reading new reports on this and other forums I am a member of. Not just mongering forums.
[QUOTE=Crazyazn] And YES, there are many many unscrupulous individuals out there. But why punish everyone? [/QUOTE]
Who is being punished here?
Seek and you will find. Didn't you make a post about members here not spoonfeeding information? "We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!"
You type this yet you are asking for address's. Try taking a little of your own advice, Research, Use various tools. Hell heres a freebie for you. [url]www.diadiem.com[/url] Use that. I made a mention of it a long time ago. Anytime someone mentions a street I refer to that and look where it is, Then from there I can workout the general gist of it.
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]When an individual post a request or PMs you, don't just blatantly ignore them. Consider there position, a) do they contribute to the forum regularly? b) what are their contributions? [/QUOTE]
ok. Reply to;
a) Do they contribute to the forum regularly.
You have a 0.06posts per day.
b) what are their contributions?
Yours are mainly about asking people for exact address's with cross street references. 2 reports.1 HBT bar and 1 bj cafe.
Do you feel ignored? If you are refering to your PM sent to me please note that I was bombarded with PM's for every man and his dog asking/begging and even demanding I tell them the information.
After looking at your contributions (mostly of asking people for address's and not many reports appart from I went to a HBT bar and got ignored) would you give out information to a person who only asks and seldom gives? Regardless there are others out there who contribute a great deal and still don't complain.
[QUOTE=Crazyazn]One of the predominant impressions i get from you is "isolationism". Your ideology can only be detrimental to yourself and this forum. In doing so, you limit the influx of information on this site. Many of your post are reviews about experiences, but yet you are unwilling to provide the location of these establishments. I fail to see your logic there. I hope that you find some wisdom by understanding all sides of the situation at hand.[/QUOTE]
Taken from Wikipedia
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism[/url]
"Isolationism is a foreign policy which combines a non-interventionist military policy and a political policy of economic nationalism (protectionism). In other words, it asserts both of the following:
Non-interventionism – Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense.
Protectionism – There should be legal barriers to control trade and cultural exchange with people in other states."
I had to look that up.
Not sure how it refers to me. Please explain. PM me if you wish. I'm not the smartest cookie in the jar.
Please reference these posts to me so I can see them. There is a reason why some places have no address. Its no secret, just to those who don't know about it.
Try to be a more active member and post some reports of what you have done and where you have been. Its a give and take world, You give and you can take. Its time to give.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.[/QUOTE]
But you like shitting in others (locals) backyard.
Have a nice shit man. AND PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF.
This forum is for sharing. Read the basic rules.
IMHO if you do not wish to share then you shouldn't have post about FS MP's in the first place. Full stop.
[QUOTE=Samurai Life]Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards[/QUOTE]
First you post this
"Cheap and Easy BBBJ or FS place in HCMC
Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
If you go there by foot tell taxi driver to go to "Lotte Mart in District 7". Nguyen Thi Thap street start from there. But it is quite long street so I will suggest to go there by motorbike. I offten go there by my Yamaha 100cc motorbike.
Here is the map.
http://www.diadiem.com/saigon.aspx?code=0;10;40;-196;-218;0;0;87552;248064;87552;248064;-1;-1;875269;2477776;150;349440;80;990720;0;0;0&ad=000E066E7948117359595B59106559515A566E056608066E066E076F700B000C056E7C401173595D575D1061595859566F076E00076E066906$$$6E71&auxi=0;-1;1;1;1;1;5;1;1;1&cont=6E076E1C046E1C016E00&xf=-1&state=SaiGon&fn=-1&n=6;4;-1;-1;-1&slang=0
Good luck. "
and then you ask others not to share it. Go figure
And since the above link is not working here is another one that does.
[url]http://www.diadiem.com/Details.aspx?st=SaiGon&cID=050605040303&ll=0906090804070B03050904030906[/url]
Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street.
You two guys really pissed me of today.
Have never been responding like that in the ISG before.
El Greco san,
Its been a while since my last post.
Unlike the post I made before this area is only for foreigner.
I don't post my favourite place.
Each shop has 5-20 girls you chose and go upstairs.
Nice hotel a like room with a air conditioner.
BJ+FS
100k to the shop
500k to the girl
And girls are beautyfull.
[QUOTE=El Greco]But you like shitting in others (locals) backyard.[/QUOTE]
How is it I'm shitting in others (locals) backyard? By locals you mean the Viets? Who don't frequent these establishments but have their own cheaper places?
I live 15min's ride away from these places. I've lived here now over 2yrs. I'm not a tourist on a sexsafari or a sexpat doing visa runs, living off a pension.
I live here, contribute to society, local business's and plan to do so for a long time.
This IS not just my backyard. Its my HOME now, So yes I don't want people shitting in my backyard, Local or otherwise. Remember Prostitution is illegal here. This is Vietnam, Not Thailand or Phils. Places like these can operate due to the clients being discreet. Not like in Thailand where its open, in your face, These things are done behind closed doors. Many sets of closed doors. Openly posting such information on a public forum can be harmful. Sure you don't give a toss, You don't live here, We do.
You El Greco on the other hand are just a blowie, visitor, tourist. Come through for a couple days/weeks/months on your sexsafari and your gone. Blow ya load and go, Clean ya pipes out, empty ya bag etc etc. Chances are you will never to return.
Like you said just to put another pin in your world map and cheap airflights.
Sure I would have helped you out if you asked, Did you even bother to PM me? Even meet up and personally bring you there if the timing was right(since your a member with a lot of reports under your belt) but instead you chose to attack me.
I had typed out a big reply but honestly it would have been a waste of time. Its obvious you never took the time or interest to read more than a couple replies. If you had gone back a few pages you will have found out the history behind these FSMP's and who actually first posted KNOWING the locations of these.
Yes its true, I actually found about these FSMP's from a fellow member on this very forum. I didn't stumble across them on my bike rides though I'd been past them several times.
Try reading a few reports by those who have been there. Try asking them
[QUOTE=El Greco]First you post this
"Cheap and Easy BBBJ or FS place in HCMC
Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
and then you ask others not to share it. Go figure
And since the above link is not working here is another one that does.
[url]http://www.diadiem.com/Details.aspx?st=SaiGon&cID=050605040303&ll=0906090804070B03050904030906[/url]
Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street.
You two guys really pissed me of today.
Have never been responding like that in the ISG before.[/QUOTE]
hahaha thats funny El Greco.
That Lotte Mart is a new shopping mall. Full of cafe's and other "specialty shops"
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]How is it I'm shitting in others (locals) backyard? By locals you mean the Viets? Who don't frequent these establishments but have their own cheaper places?[/QUOTE]
So other gringos are frequenting these establishments but members of this forum must/can not according to you. Are you forgetting that we are talking about brothels and you are not the only customer there?
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]If you had gone back a few pages you will have found out the history behind these FSMP's and who actually first posted KNOWING the locations of these.
Try reading a few reports by those who have been there. Try asking them[/QUOTE]
The original poster received a PM from me, long ago, but choose to ignore me. Fair enough. If I was in his shoes though and had chosen not to share yet (which I never do) I would have sent him a PM telling him "sorry I do not wish to share unless I Vett you first. First round of drinks on me".
If he had replied to my PM I would have told him "Thank you very much. How about dinner on my account?"
You see dear Mik I know how to read but you don't. Because I didn't sent no one to the Lotte Mart. Instead I wrote : "Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street."
Now if there are some more near the airport area good for you. Keep your secret and stop advertising about it. Otherwise you make the rest of us all feel like fools.
If you wish to create a close circuit do it by PMing each other. Not in the open.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
Cant make it any more clearer.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
Hope its getting through to you.
Don't bother with me as I have not written any reports about my experiences at THE SAME establishments. If I did then I would have shared.
Since I did not write then that means I'm not willing to make public what happened.
Theres a reason why people don't share there locations and people get ignored via PM. You still don't get it.
Don't be venting at me. You never PM'd me asking for the details.
Good luck mongering in Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
[/QUOTE]
There is an old Greek say that goes like that “I am telling it to the wife so the mother in law can listen.”
You simply gave me the opportunity with the shit stuff so the “chicken” mother in law could get the message.
I think I made my point loud and clear enough for you all residing in Saigon.
Have a good day Mr Mik and happy mongering to you too.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]
One should share in PM to Sr members, for instance.
But cleraly saying "you will not know from me where this is all about" is really sick!
[/QUOTE]
I've yet to receive any NEW PM from Senior members or yourself Bionicman asking for the location other than the ones who already know and are reporting. Have you PM'd any of the members?
Ok to help clear things up read the following.
THERE IS NO FSMP IN SAIGON.
There, now the bickering can stop.
If you are sick and disgusted Bionicman I'd suggest taking up Badminton rather than mongering and reading forums about mongering.
Theres plenty of parks and footpaths around and no shortage of willing partners.
When I said I will not tell anyone this was in the public forum. Note Public and PM are different. To put it in a way you may understand since this is SE Asia "Same same but different"
There is a valid reason for this and is expressed by ALL senior members in the Vietnam Threads.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I've yet to receive any NEW PM from Senior members or yourself Bionicman asking for the location other than the ones who already know and are reporting. Have you PM'd any of the members?
Ok to help clear things up read the following.
THERE IS NO FSMP IN SAIGON.
There, now the bickering can stop.
If you are sick and disgusted Bionicman I'd suggest taking up Badminton rather than mongering and reading forums about mongering.
Theres plenty of parks and footpaths around and no shortage of willing partners.
When I said I will not tell anyone this was in the public forum. Note Public and PM are different. To put it in a way you may understand since this is SE Asia "Same same but different"
There is a valid reason for this and is expressed by ALL senior members in the Vietnam Threads.[/QUOTE]
I did not ask as of now I am not interested to know, but one day I might and usually it is recommended to RTFF, doing that will nto sort out any info.
Apart that, your statement is quite straight and one can read it "forget about to know wherfe it is as I do not want anybody to bother there" (ie spoil the place).
NBy reading that I would not think to put black on white in a PM to, as it looks you want "your places" to be exclusively. So be it. keep them for yoursleves. Your right, But why to tell us about them?
As you are not the only customer in there, other might do, so your efforts are invain.
And if you would ever tell me or anyone else in PM and somebody else (out of the ISG compound makles the place public, would it be the fault of ISG?
Come on, get real!
Do your deeds, but if you want to share, do not initimadate the readers about exclusivitiy! Keep it for yourself then!
Secondly, as
Seems like a few guys on here have alot of tension, so here I recommend a GENUINE massage place to relieve all your stress and hopefully this will bring peace and undo the tension on this forum again ;-)
40 Nguyen Van dau, Q.Phu Nhuan
The NAME of the place is the actual ADDRESS of the place (40 NVD)
This place is a proper massage place with real professionals, it is Thai style massage and includes hot stones, face massage etc. all inclusive in your massage session you pay for. You can get 60minute session or 90minute session, if you choose the latter then you will be entitled to a FREE FOOT MASSAGE downstairs aswell.
Price 100k for 60mins / 140k for 90mins (and free foot massage)
Tip 100k-150k (standard locals rate, pay more if you want but you honestly don't need to)
Well, I hope this will relieve some tension that we have been getting on this forum the past few days
(and please don't flame me, I am only trying to help)
Hey you guys... be nice! Please.
El Greco: I think you're new to VN, right? While Mik's approach hasn't exactly been diplomatic, I think he actually has some legitimate reasons for not sharing info as openly as you would like. Frankly, I'm concerned that there's as much info out there about them now as there is. If you spend much time in this country you might understand why. Do you have an account that can receive PMs? Better to discuss there. I think the expression that applies here is "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
[QUOTE=Wendella]Hey you guys... be nice! Please.
El Greco: I think you're new to VN, right? While Mik's approach hasn't exactly been diplomatic, I think he actually has some legitimate reasons for not sharing info as openly as you would like. Frankly, I'm concerned that there's as much info out there about them now as there is. If you spend much time in this country you might understand why. Do you have an account that can receive PMs? Better to discuss there. I think the expression that applies here is "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."[/QUOTE]
Mostly because of my job I have been hundreds of times in many places around SE Asia but never before to Vietnam. It simply happened that way.
I am fully aware that certain things might be undercover in Vietnam and other places China, Burma or Malaysia for example. Believe you me I know how to deal with things like that. That’s why I made my first approach by PM. Unfortunately with no joy because I was ignored. But I didn’t complain.
There after I felt provoked when the two gentlemen of the forum said to each other not to share the info about places where a lot of others can go but not the members of this forum. We are not talking here about sharing the telephone number of a WG or an individual freelancer. We are talking about brothels that accept a lot of people on a daily basis.
There is another old Greek say that goes "Although the whole world knows about it we are still very proud of our secret". LOL
IMHO, paraphrasing, fools are the angels who think that they have a secret although the whole world knows about it.
Thanks
Yes, I too fully understand the reasons for, and advantages of keeping something for ourselves. But saying we have something and then teasing and talking about it in an oblique way with others while not sharing, makes others feel bad. It's kids stuff really. Say you were invited to a party but your buddy was not. Best not to mention it to him rather than telling him 'hey I'm invited to a party and you're not, na na na na na na.'
Of course brothels, especially those that work largely out in the open with little cover, have hundreds of customers, regular and occasional. This board also has hundreds of regular readers and sometime contributors. To think that there will not be a match between or among them, and that a match will not have the same reservations about information, is not realistic.
FS MP are not for everyone. Many are happy with massage and HJ near the center of town, while others may prefer Massage and BJ/HJ near the center. Others like to monger late at night in bars and nightclubs looking for LT or overnight action. Some haunt the HBT and vicinity bars buying worthless drinks for ladies and tipping them hundreds of K Dong for some cuddling and kissing or a neck massage and tickling private parts. It's their enjoyment, it's what they like, and we should respect that.
Others like the thrill and challenge of the street, looking for that pretty young gem who does it all (with pictures) for 200k, or someone a bit older and more experienced for as little as 100-150k. Still others go exclusively for the 'seduction' route, not exactly a great challenge in Vietnam but still takes some time-consuming effort and does not always pay off. And some like the idea of going to a place and choosing one from a large number of girls and going straight to a room where everything can happen with no discussion of price beforehand and only modest expectations on the part of the girl.
The basic different strokes argument. So for those too worried about great secrets being revealed, I would say the stampede you anticipate will not happen. There will not be hundreds and thousands of guys rushing from the center to the outskirts of the city to go to these hard to find places where only Vietnamese is spoken and they will not be destroying the landscape so to speak. If anything, increased traffic will attract more and better providers and encourage them to work harder.
See my pictures of Linh, in the Photo Gallery today.
This started off as a whine whinge about some disreputable character that is taking advantage of people with stolen reports and fake reports. I have stated reasons why I have changed my stance towards revealing information that I obtained either research on the forums or through exploration, and no matter how much people try to convince me otherwise, I won't be changing my stance unless you have convinced me you can be discreet and you are not going to ruin my playground as too many times my information has been used and then I get the answer of, well " it my money and I'll pay whatever I want"
And frankly the few times I have met fellow mongers it has mostly left a bitter taste in my mouth, and so as I have never had the need to get any hand holding or any private directions before I can't see any reason that I should meet up and be a personal tour guide neither should I feel I should be posting addresses and such. There is that disreputable character out there charging 200k an address why should waste my posting address to guys who feel that I owe them something from a previous life and want to be spoonfed.
One thing that I find amusing is that whilst I actually gave johndao the address of the fsmp, here he is promoting good willing amongst us monger and yet I have never seen him do what he suggests and give out information such as addresses.
Methinks what he says is different to what he thinks and that he know that providing addresses in the public arena to strangers can only lead to a situation where there is increased police involvement or the rip off status of dist 1 will appear in all different districts.
John don't take this the wrong way you and I think alike in many respects and I love your photos, but on this matter I have to disagree on the matter revealing of this matter into public arena or to unproven individuals.
The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Guys, it's not any stampede I worry about, it's the places being shut down. Posting the info on a public forum is not a good idea if we want the places to remain in business. Raids do happen here, a lot, and places do disappear forever, a lot. I've seen plenty of different venues shut down in my time here, never to return.
I can't speak for the way other people posted about those places here -- and can understand people being put off by that. But the bottom line is that it's not a good idea to post this particular info here in the forum. Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it. If you asked but didn't get it, it means you weren't persuasive enough. Or patient enough. In that case you can keep trying, try someone else, or cry foul. I think the last one is least likely to be effective, and actually is more likely to convince other people (such as me in this case) not to share the info with you. Basically, your skills of persuasion are failing to get the job done.
I tried to delicately give what I feel sure is good advice about this. The response I see, well... I'm not sure what to call the ones who rush in where they're tapped on the shoulder and specifically told angels fear to tread up ahead, then respond by telling off that person and insist on rushing in anyway. To me, I see this and think: definitely don't share this info with that guy. He doesn't care at all if these places get shut down.
If you were sincerely interested in getting those addresses, you would have acted nice and PM'd me. I got no PM(!) and a telling off instead. So obviously you're not interested in getting the info.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.
[QUOTE=Wendella]The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.[/QUOTE]
First, I'm not taking anyone's side or trying to add more fuel to the fire. But a couple of points:
1. El Greco is not a troll, he's contributed in other threads.
2. If anyone thinks the local law doesn't know about these places, he's in for a surprise. They know and merely 'tolerate' as long as it's not flagrant.
3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand.....I hope Vn threads don't evolve that way.
Finally, from my very limited experience in Vn, there are other places close by that are easier and more fun to monger. Save it for LOS, HK, Jkt, Cambodia.
Happy New Year to all.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand.....
Happy New Year to all.[/QUOTE]
I applause...! indeed some posts are so cryptic, especially with use of ...local jergoen (that is the one most known to local LE!) that I am wondering if even the writer can read through it some 6 months after:))
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]First, I'm not taking anyone's side or trying to add more fuel to the fire. But a couple of points:
1. El Greco is not a troll, he's contributed in other threads.
2. If anyone thinks the local law doesn't know about these places, he's in for a surprise. They know and merely 'tolerate' as long as it's not flagrant.
3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand. I hope Vn threads don't evolve that way.
Finally, from my very limited experience in Vn, there are other places close by that are easier and more fun to monger. Save it for LOS, HK, Jakarta, Cambodia.
Happy New Year to all.[/QUOTE]I ask you this, if the local malaysians talk in code where as you being a foreigner think its un-necessary, who do you think is more closer to the truth.
Secondly ask why is it that in district one there no hanky panky other than HJ massage. Could it be that the vn gov doesn want foreigners thinking that vietnam and its culture is full of vice, so it prohibit vice relate activities when foreigners are involved bit it allows it in other districts with irregular crackdowns. And so what do you think will happen if it is discovered that foreigners are going to the FS mssage en mass and its posted on a well known sex forum. I was there when a hbt bar was being raided, the girls went and hide in a secret closet and was there for over 1 hr, so don't that the police are aware of it and are not willing to do anything unless its flagrant. You have obviously not lived here whereas wendella has been here a long time, I'm viet kieu so I suspect that both Wendella and I are closer to the truth than you are.
[QUOTE=Wendella]The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it.
[/QUOTE]
Then, maybe, writing a simple sentence as "for the well know reasons, address will be given only by PM to Senior Members with proper post history"
Period.
Read this many times and the message is clear.
Clearer and less complicate than venturing into what was written before and in such a way that "you will not get it from me, stay away form my backyard".
How could someone be tempted to PM with such a warning?
wendella : you hit the nail right smack bang dead center on the head.
that was what i was trying to explain all along, however your way with words sound a lot more sweeter than my sour and bitter tasing ones.
these places are in all of "our" backyard hense we don't need it soiled. "our" being the more active members of the vn forum.
yes these are way out of the usual areas and yes sometimes you do get lost and end up going around in circles...many times.
like wendella said if you try and ask via pm and don't get a positive response you have to be more persuasive.
this has certainly breathed some life into the vn forum and its great, however i wish the subject was a more pleasant one.
for the record and perhaps i should have mentioned it much earlier i was replying to samurai life's request. not to anyone elses hense i put his quote and replied to it.
i was very much suprised that several people took offence to it then you must ask yourself why are you offended?
are you under the impression that we should share everything with everyone?
simply because you are a forum member?
a lot of regular contributors never complained or even responded, perhaps they already knew and didn't take any offence.
he (sl) had requested to jd and myself not to post the address's in the public forum as sl has lived here for quite a long time and knows what goes on. no doubt he would have seen places open and shut down like wendella mentioned.
remember its a "social evil" and police are "working" on reducing it. hense we must keep it discrete.
not worried about the stampeed as that will never happen, just don't want that dribble of customers to stop and have to look elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Wendella]The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Guys, it's not any stampede I worry about, it's the places being shut down. Posting the info on a public forum is not a good idea if we want the places to remain in business. Raids do happen here, a lot, and places do disappear forever, a lot. I've seen plenty of different venues shut down in my time here, never to return.
I can't speak for the way other people posted about those places here -- and can understand people being put off by that. But the bottom line is that it's not a good idea to post this particular info here in the forum. Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it. If you asked but didn't get it, it means you weren't persuasive enough. Or patient enough. In that case you can keep trying, try someone else, or cry foul. I think the last one is least likely to be effective, and actually is more likely to convince other people (such as me in this case) not to share the info with you. Basically, your skills of persuasion are failing to get the job done.
I tried to delicately give what I feel sure is good advice about this. The response I see, well... I'm not sure what to call the ones who rush in where they're tapped on the shoulder and specifically told angels fear to tread up ahead, then respond by telling off that person and insist on rushing in anyway. To me, I see this and think: definitely don't share this info with that guy. He doesn't care at all if these places get shut down.
If you were sincerely interested in getting those addresses, you would have acted nice and PM'd me. I got no PM(!) and a telling off instead. So obviously you're not interested in getting the info.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.[/QUOTE]
Totally wrong!!!
Have a look at my long history or ask Jackson if I am a troll. We have met several times.
I never asked anyone to write it in the open or said that such info should be in the open. Although finally it was well before. I might be a newbie in Vietnam but not in the forum.
Read again more carefully my friend and you will see that I was not the only one to be denied by PM. Maybe the other member was not persuasive enough too. You tell us.
If you gentlemen want to have an "inner circle" in Saigon at least don't advertise it.
And please don't give me the "but you didn't PM me" thing. How could I know that you know? I simply asked the one who advertised it. I couldn't go all around begging for such a silly info. The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?
No I am not going to PM anyone in Saigon any more. Remember I am the bad guy who wants those places closed. If you want to see by yourself what a troll I am then you PM me. I'll buy the dinner.
You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.
They have taken a lot of their time for many years to write reports from all over the world so others will learn and benefit by saving time and money the way I did so far and I will continue to do as far as I monger.
Traveler 1234 thank you very much Sir.
Thanks
Gentlemen,
This may be our backyard, but we don't own the house.
Besides, the establishment (as well as many others in the area) of which the address was posted previously (which led to this ruckus) has been around for a long time.
Now can we all get along? :D
El Greco: ευχαριστώ, and welcome to VN!
[quote=Peterpanabc]
Thanks for sharing JD, I always enjoy your reports and pictures.
In fact since you first mentioned NTT, D7 I have tried probably 15-20 hot tocs and in 1 recieved FS for 300k. It is true that if you venture out of D1 there is lots of fun to be had at a good price. Plenty of girls at the end of NTT after 9pm who will go ST for 300k + 50k hotel fee.
Thanks jd, whilst I don't post enough on here, I certainly listen to you and regards to pricing and get some very good deals![/quote]
Peter,
I'm glad you use and appreciate my help.
Which end of NTT do you find the SW?
Also, go down Le Van Luong south of NTT. There are so many Hot Toc and Cafe Om on that stretch. Real down market places. 100-120k BJ all included, house and girl.
Also found on Lam Van Ben but only a few compared to LVL. I find directly on NTT usually ask higher prices. Rent is much higher on that street and more visible to passerby.
JD
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]This started off as a whine whinge about some disreputable character that is taking advantage of people with stolen reports and fake reports.
One thing that I find amusing is that whilst I actually gave johndao the address of the fsmp, here he is promoting good willing amongst us monger and yet I have never seen him do what he suggests and give out information such as addresses.
Methinks what he says is different to what he thinks and that he know that providing addresses in the public arena to strangers can only lead to a situation where there is increased police involvement or the rip off status of dist 1 will appear in all different districts.
John don't take this the wrong way you and I think alike in many respects and I love your photos, but on this matter I have to disagree on the matter revealing of this matter into public arena or to unproven individuals.[/QUOTE]
Mutant,
Please don't misunderstand me. The bottom line is I just wanted everyone to drop the subject altogether. I wrote that when the Ah Sam thing happened because he copied and changed a report on the forum. I thought better to leave it alone. That led to a deluge of comments and now to this. We should just stop talking about it and making people curious.
I very well know that putting too much info out there is not good. I don't suggest people give out addresses. But I am not worried abut a stampede of guys rushing into the boondocks to places where English is not spoken. Most guys will stay in D1 where they feel safe and comfortable. For example, there is more than enough info in the Forum about 100k BBBJ CIM on NPK and DBP and DBL. But those places are ok and most guys here are still writing about 600k BJ at HBT bars.
So Mutant, the bottom line of what I am saying is that it's a bad idea to spread too much info and I won't do it, but I don't much fear the consequences.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Peter,
I'm glad you use and appreciate my help.
Which end of NTT do you find the SW?
Also, go down Le Van Luong south of NTT. There are so many Hot Toc and Cafe Om on that stretch. Real down market places. 100-120k BJ all included, house and girl.
Also found on Lam Van Ben but only a few compared to LVL. I find directly on NTT usually ask higher prices. Rent is much higher on that street and more visible to passerby.
JD[/QUOTE]I concur, le van luong, ntt and lam van ben have alot of hot tocs whre a BJ costs 120k, however I didn't see many caphe om. I saw afew regular cafge places whre thegirls sit and talk with you, but again I didn't go in and it didn't have the same dark dingy interior found in normal caphe om.
Street walkers and that kinda stuff is found towards nguyen van linh towards the bridge. Also I assume pete refered to the fact you can meet the hot toc girls for sex after they finish work etc.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]I ask you this, if the local malaysians talk in code where as you being a foreigner think its un-necessary, who do you think is more closer to the truth.[/QUOTE]
There are a couple of other ISG type sites, names taboo here, that go into more detail re the Malaysian scene. One is actually a Singapore based site and the posts don't have as much cipher and code.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]
Secondly ask why is it that in district one there no hanky panky other than HJ massage. Could it be that the vn gov doesn want foreigners thinking that vietnam and its culture is full of vice, so it prohibit vice relate activities when foreigners are involved bit it allows it in other districts with irregular crackdowns. And so what do you think will happen if it is discovered that foreigners are going to the FS mssage en mass and its posted on a well known sex forum. I was there when a hbt bar was being raided, the girls went and hide in a secret closet and was there for over 1 hr, so don't that the police are aware of it and are not willing to do anything unless its flagrant. [/QUOTE]
No one is arguing that raids don't occur. But they don't rely on ISG for their source of information. China is the perfect example of that - they monitor everything on-line and off-line but BBS, bars, FL are everywhere. I will agree District 1 a little tougher than other areas.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]
You have obviously not lived here whereas wendella has been here a long time, I'm viet kieu so I suspect that both Wendella and I are closer to the truth than you are.[/QUOTE]
You're right, I've only been to Vn about 20 time over the last 20 years so a relatively newbie. However I suspect I've lived and worked in Asia long before you were born...LOL.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]
Besides, the establishment (as well as many others in the area) of which the address was posted previously (which led to this ruckus) has been around for a long time.
[/QUOTE]
Well said Raverboy - long before any mutant ninja turtles were around. Mutant Chicken obviously didn't read my post carefully, I wasn't trying to dump on anyone. :D
I still remember the days when New World Hotel had just opened in HCMC and all you had to do was walk out the front door and across the parking lot to hop on a motorbike.
[QUOTE=El Greco]Totally wrong!!!
Have a look at my long history or ask Jackson if I am a troll. We have met several times.[/QUOTE]
Actually, not many people are going to start investigating your background before responding to what you write, they're just going to look at what you wrote here and say what they think about it. I didn't even notice how many posts you have, and don't intend to go read what you're written elsewhere or ask Jackson anything. If you expect people here to do otherwise, I'm not sure that's realistic. I dont' think 'senior' status means much to most people who post here. I think the way it works is that everyone gets treated pretty equally unless the people reading are familiar with them and respect them more based on what they've read here. You don't write here, so people who do come here just see you as a new guy from out of nowhere. Nobody's fault, just human nature.
[QUOTE=El Greco]I never asked anyone to write it in the open or said that such info should be in the open. Although finally it was well before. I might be a newbie in Vietnam but not in the forum.
Read again more carefully my friend [/QUOTE]
Maybe its me but I find it a bit off-putting when someone I've never met addresses me as "my friend". Anyway, I guess I misunderstood when you said: [i]"There is another old Greek say that goes "Although the whole world knows about it we are still very proud of our secret". LOL IMHO, paraphrasing, fools are the angels who think that they have a secret although the whole world knows about it.[/i] My understanding of that was that the info was not in fact sensitive, and that anyone who thinks it shouldn't be shared openly is foolish. These are your words, and I think my interpretation was a reasonable one to make.
And actually, it occurs to me here when you cite a 2nd Greek saying that maybe English isn't your native language and that this might be part of our miscommunication here. I say that because the expression I used earlier that includes the word "fool" doesn't mean that you are a fool, it just means that this is a delicate issue that isn't being treated as such, and actually applies to everyone who is discussing it here. It wasn't intended to be a slight against you personally at all. I have a feeling you misinterpreted that to be a put-down.
[QUOTE=El Greco]and you will see that I was not the only one to be denied by PM. Maybe the other member was not persuasive enough too. You tell us. [/QUOTE]
OK, I will. Both of you were not persuasive enough. You needed to convince Mik. You didn't.
[QUOTE=El Greco]If you gentlemen want to have an "inner circle" in Saigon at least don't advertise it.[/QUOTE]
Well if we ever do form an inner circle, I'll make sure and follow your advice and not advertise it. As we haven't, and I've never met any of these other people you're having this problem with, I guess this is a non-issue.
[QUOTE=El Greco]And please don't give me the "but you didn't PM me" thing. How could I know that you know?[/QUOTE]
Fair enough, tho I did tell you to PM me if you wanted to discuss it further, that it shouldn't continue to be discussed here. You didn't PM me and continued to discuss it here.
[QUOTE=El Greco]I simply asked the one who advertised it. I couldn't go all around begging for such a silly info. [/QUOTE]
You could actually. Why not. What's wrong with trying to ask someone else? "Begging"? So you consider it demeaning to ask others to share info with you? Maybe this is the problem. Myself, I'm a question-holic. If asking questions is shameful, I'm gutter scum.
[QUOTE=El Greco]The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?[/QUOTE]
To be honest, in a previous post someone specifically asked that a certain address not be re-posted again in the forum, and your immediate response was to go back and find that info (actually it was wrong info) and then repost it. Your doing that showed a pretty clear attitude of defiance against the request to show discretion. That was a red-flag to some of us. Keep in mind you're not only going to be judged by the number of posts you made or the quality of posts you made elsewhere, but by the nature of the posts you make here (and actually, most will judge you only based on what you write here). But even before that, well, with this info that everyone who has it has been told to be very discreet with, unfortunately you aren't yet considered to be deserving of receiving it, at least by the guy you asked. He doesn't trust you yet. If you want to call that 2nd class, ok. Correct. If that pisses you off, well... it's what it is.
[QUOTE=El Greco]No I am not going to PM anyone in Saigon any more. Remember I am the bad guy who wants those places closed. If you want to see by yourself what a troll I am then you PM me. I'll buy the dinner.[/QUOTE]
That's fine, I guess we're pretty far beyond going on a dinner date by now. As they say, there are many fish in the sea.
[QUOTE=El Greco]You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.[/quote]
I expect it will play out similarly next time too if some 'senior' comes here brand new for the first time and rubs people the wrong way. But your request is noted. So this is what you call letting it pass. OK. I'm glad you didn't make an issue out of it then. Since you've decided the info is silly and not worth finding out, I guess there's nothing more to talk about.
[QUOTE=El Greco]
The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?
You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I should think your attitude is a lot worse than mine. You don't know me and its the same that I don't know you, Yet you are making judgements by reading 1 reply not directed at you, however you took it as it was directed at you.
No doubt you had high expectations coming into VN. Sure its next door to Cambodia, jump over to TLD, near Phils, So the mongering must be the same right, pussy shoved in ya face, around every corner, your falling over theres so much pussy around, You cant walk anywhere because every step you take your stepping into pussy, red light districts, bars and girls for as far as the eye can see......
Sorry but if you are going to try to compare or monger here the same way as in other SE Asian countries then you will be having a hard time finding anything decent here. By decent I mean not the overpriced HBT bar girls who are mostly past their use by dates and the massuests with their overpriced offerings or the Orchard tower hookers hanging out at Apo.
However since you have been all over SE Asia then you will have no problems finding some hole to fill. All these shops should be easy to find with all your years of mongering exp. No doubt you won't be falling into any scams either with all your experience, hell you mite even teach them a thing or 2.
You talk about respect. That is a 2 way street. I don't care who you know, where you've been but the way you go about posting and insulting members shows just how much respect you actually have.
Its very obvious that you have ZERO respect for anyone and anything. Calling Samurai Life "Japie Guy" (was it so hard to see that he is from japan that you had to point it out?) shows how much respect you have for fellow members, Or was it because he wasn't a "senior member" so no respect was needed to be shown.
Perhaps because he had something you wanted and wasn't going to share you you had to resort to name calling much like a playground bully, intimidating people to give you what you want.
There have been numerous people who have posted here for the first time and never got a response like the ones you have been getting.
People don't care how many posts you have to your name, rather how you post and what you post.
You come to this forum (vietnam) and start throwing your weight around acting like WE OWE you information? Why? because you have XXX posts to your name? or you have Senior Member under your name? Or because you have been all over SE Asia and are a very experienced monger? Perhaps because of the way you post? Maybe its because you are used to the "submissive asian culture" and as a foreigner you must be the forceful one in order not to look weak.
Sorry mate, but you can GTFO. You (as you like to say) "my friend" are nothing, Same as we are nothing, we owe you nothing, same as you owe us nothing.
You want to know why we responded like we did. Spend some time living here, Proper time,not 1-2-4 weeks, spend 6+months straight and then see how life here is so different to anywhere else.
Treat people how you want to be treated and you will get treated accordingly. You got treated much better than you deserve in my opinion.
You act like people must give you anything you request, and if we deny you we become the biggest assholes in the world.
You forget....This is Vietnam. Things are very very very different here.
You are right about this one. English is not my mother tongue.
I wouldn't like someone I don't know to tap me on the shoulder whilst calling me a fool even indirectly.
Mea culpa on that one.
If you spend some time in Brasil, the way I do every year, you'll get used to be called by everyone and call everyone "amigo" (friend).
Sorry if that offended you I didn't mean to.
Once again
"You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did."
The more you carry on the more you expose your self. Stop exposing yourself otherwise you are destroying all the good work you have done in the past.
It needs some courage to admit that you made a bad posting, that led to these all arguments, insulting us all newbies to Vietnam.
After reading some recent talk of theses cafe oms I decided to give them a try. Long drive for me. Went to Le Van Luong and I didn't see anything obvious at first so i drove around a little. Eventually I noticed one place that seemed obviously a cafe om. Lots of leafy plants in the front concealing the inside. The sign outside advertised "Cafe, Music Compact Dics".
There were 2 girls working and one mama lounging in a hammock. One of the girls was skinny with bad greasy skin and hairy legs. She implored me to go to the back with her for a massage, but I declined. Then the other one came over. Fat and pock marked face. Not pretty. I was feeling annoyed with all the hustling by then and was sure that I wanted none of what was on sale here.
I've been to 4 cafe oms now. In my experience its just not usually interesting. I think its a shame too, because it could be really nice. I would be happy just to fondle a pretty girl while i drink a cold coke and relax. But they need to be pretty or for me I just don't see the point.
[QUOTE=Member #2234]Seems like a few guys on here have alot of tension, so here I recommend a GENUINE massage place to relieve all your stress and hopefully this will bring peace and undo the tension on this forum again ;-)
40 Nguyen Van dau, Q.Phu Nhuan
The NAME of the place is the actual ADDRESS of the place (40 NVD)
This place is a proper massage place with real professionals, it is Thai style massage and includes hot stones, face massage etc. all inclusive in your massage session you pay for. You can get 60minute session or 90minute session, if you choose the latter then you will be entitled to a FREE FOOT MASSAGE downstairs aswell.
Price 100k for 60mins / 140k for 90mins (and free foot massage)
Tip 100k-150k (standard locals rate, pay more if you want but you honestly don't need to)
Well, I hope this will relieve some tension that we have been getting on this forum the past few days
(and please don't flame me, I am only trying to help)[/QUOTE]Thanks dude! I just come back from there and it's a pretty good massage place, probably the best i ever got in Saigon (not difficult as the quality is very often lower than the surrounding countries).
I recommend it to you guys if you want a good massage, release the pain (quite energic massage) and relax with no happy ending, so they just work on the massage to get the tip.
Thank you member 2234
No probs LAKEOFFIRE1, I know this is a sex forum but everyone needs a REAL MASSAGE every so often and it is so hard to find in HCM. That place is a REAL place. Glad you liked it!
[QUOTE=D Cups]If any mongers have recently seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Vietnamese beauties in the MPs, bars or elsewhere could you kindly PM me an address and name? :). Slim and stacked is preferrred but I have been known to lower my bottom standards for the top-heavies :). I will be visiting HCMC (as well as BKK and Pattya) in March and want to slide the schwvantztooka between some major mams. Thank you very much and happy horndogging one and all! :)[/QUOTE]
Yes D Cups I have seen large-breasted beauties around elsewhere. PM me those pics you got of the 2 sweeties with large breasts at Smiley's last time. Tell us where you usually find them. Better yet, post them in the Photo Gallery for all!
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Mutant,
Please don't misunderstand me. The bottom line is I just wanted everyone to drop the subject altogether. I wrote that when the Ah Sam thing happened because he copied and changed a report on the forum. I thought better to leave it alone. That led to a deluge of comments and now to this. We should just stop talking about it and making people curious.[/QUOTE]Hey guys.. Some updates about this Toad thing for you.
[url]http://www.tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,228046,00.html?[/url]
And within 1 day, Ah Sam have to re-do his website, and not only have a picture of the Perfume Pagoda!
[url]http://vietnamtour.weebly.com/[/url]
I think he must have been arrested by authorities already, otherwise he woul not have to redo his website. All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence!
[QUOTE=Deptrai]Hey guys.. Some updates about this Toad thing for you.
[url]http://www.tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,228046,00.html?[/url]
And within 1 day, Ah Sam have to re-do his website, and not only have a picture of the Perfume Pagoda!
[url]http://vietnamtour.weebly.com/[/url]
I think he must have been arrested by authorities already, otherwise he woul not have to redo his website. All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence![/QUOTE]
He had to re-do his website as the coffee shop from DE THAM (I won't mention which one) phoned him up and kicked up shit as he put their picture on and the girls too without permission and the girls there are not even on the game lol! He just makes up god damn stories and addresses! Also his name is NOT Sam either, and the photo of the guy holding the handbag is NOT him either. The coffee shop has now taken this situation into their OWN HANDS so I KNOW "Sam" is feeling VERY threatened ;)
I thought this guy Ah Sam must be nut to promote sex tours in Vietnam so obviously. He even sends out his mobile number and email address.
I know there were organized sex tours from other countries to Vietnam, but they were all done in very secretive manners, and of course with big, regular pay offs to the right officials. But after some time, something would go wrong with someone, somewhere, somehow and the sex tour operators would be busted with severe punishments.
Criminal laws in Vietnam are very harsh. The Communist Party takes lots of liberties in selective enforcement, arbitrary prosecution and severe punishments primarily to promote their political agendas.
The authority in Vietnam is known to be very strict about not letting Vietnam become a sex tour destination for foreigners like Thailand or the Philipines. They will tolerate prostitution for local people to a certain degree, but never for foreigners. They hate foreign pimps even worse. It's a matter of national pride to them. Uncle Ho's revolutionary great grand children would labor to their deaths to earn their living, but would never, ever even think of renting out their orifices to foreigners to feed their mouths.
There are millions secret police in Vietnam, all looking to make big money off stupid foreigners and to show off their patriotism. All it takes is a phone call from a secret police pretending to look for girls.
Ah Sam would not last a day after launching his web site. He may be looking at prison sentences as long as 15 years for pimping and pandering.
[QUOTE=Deptrai] All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence![/QUOTE]
But he's such a "gangsta" or isit pranksta. He'd never squeal on his clients. He's too gangsta for that. He'd pull out his tek-9 and mac-10 and spray the area, His homeboys will be firing their AK's and Shotty's to back him up, Then when he's run out of bullets he'll pull out his glock 9mm and keep shooting till no one is left standing.
He's like the asian version of Vanilla Ice.
He's as good at being a gangsta as William Hung is at singing
***Incase you need more clarification the above is written in a sarcastic tone.***
[QUOTE=Dawg415]Okay, I'm being silly, trying to come up with a new acronym, B&G is blow and go. Anyway
After a review I read about a B&G place in D1 (bordering D3), which is near where I live, I decided to go out and have a shot at it. It's off of HBT, right on Tran Quang Khai and left onto N V Nguyen (I think it is Nguyen Van Nguyen). Place is called Hoang (sp? ) My, address is 212. Someone wrote there are a few places here but I only found 1. .[/QUOTE]Hey everyone,
So I tried heading to this B&G (or Hot Toc, as you like, B&G sure seems more accurate) on NVN last week. I visited it during my trip here last October.
Oct2009 Review: My first time to one of these joints. It was as mentioned, 200k, and in-and-out in no time. Lots of hock-hocking after I CIM. I was expected a pretty awesome BJ as these ladies probably know how to do it, but instead it was quite mechanical and didn't feel all that great. I suppose "good stuff" is hard to cum by, eh? It was worth every penny of my $10 I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra and get a good HJ at the massage place (tho these seem tough to come by too with all the tip negotiation, argh, damn the tip negotiation)
Jan010 Review: Passing by NVN this time, it was closed. It was 4pm and I recall going by there in the afternoon previously. So my guess is these places are much like what they do: they cum and go. Settled for a Body Massage at the Que Hong Liberty (which is another story I guess) instead.
Decided I still needed a B&G so headed down to DBP two days later and hit the first place after the bridge. Wow, what a different compared to the NVN place.
The girl who grabbed me looked as good as any in the place, and better than the ones at the other B&G's I saw as I wandered further down the street later. Paid the 200k in advance. Almost banged my head on the ceiling going up the stairs (yeah, you know the place!) Got a decent "massage" in the chair, had a nice chat with the lady for a bit, then finally, "you want blowjob? " LOL, um, that's why I'm here, right? So into the little side room that looks like a place you'd normally go to get a shampoo. But off come the pants, and she starts up. Again, much better than last time. Took her time, cleaned me up, good bit of teasing starting with the nipples and balls, and a decent BJ to finish, tho nothing I'd call amazing. She said I was "big, " but that's prob just an excuse for lazy sucking. Back outside for a bit of wrap-up wind-down massage. Well enjoyed!
Was all set to go, and then she started asking about a tip. I didn't have really much to give in small bills and she wasn't too happy. She wouldn't take the 15k I tried to give her which was all I had in my wallet
I thought the whole point of these places was we didn't have to tip? So 90% good, but the tip thing put me off. I'll head somewhere else next time. If anyone knows some other D1 places closer to the tourist area let me know.
Ok, time to take my anti-clap pills.
Peace out brothers!
[QUOTE=Balimassage]Hey everyone,
So I tried heading to this B&G (or Hot Toc, as you like, B&G sure seems more accurate) on NVN last week. I visited it during my trip here last October.
Oct2009 Review: My first time to one of these joints. It was as mentioned, 200k, and in-and-out in no time. Lots of hock-hocking after I CIM. I was expected a pretty awesome BJ as these ladies probably know how to do it, but instead it was quite mechanical and didn't feel all that great. I suppose "good stuff" is hard to cum by, eh? It was worth every penny of my $10 I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra and get a good HJ at the massage place (tho these seem tough to come by too with all the tip negotiation, argh, damn the tip negotiation)
Jan010 Review: Passing by NVN this time, it was closed. It was 4pm and I recall going by there in the afternoon previously. So my guess is these places are much like what they do: they cum and go. Settled for a Body Massage at the Que Hong Liberty (which is another story I guess) instead.
Decided I still needed a B&G so headed down to DBP two days later and hit the first place after the bridge. Wow, what a different compared to the NVN place.
The girl who grabbed me looked as good as any in the place, and better than the ones at the other B&G's I saw as I wandered further down the street later. Paid the 200k in advance. Almost banged my head on the ceiling going up the stairs (yeah, you know the place!) Got a decent "massage" in the chair, had a nice chat with the lady for a bit, then finally, "you want blowjob? " LOL, um, that's why I'm here, right? So into the little side room that looks like a place you'd normally go to get a shampoo. But off come the pants, and she starts up. Again, much better than last time. Took her time, cleaned me up, good bit of teasing starting with the nipples and balls, and a decent BJ to finish, tho nothing I'd call amazing. She said I was "big, " but that's prob just an excuse for lazy sucking. Back outside for a bit of wrap-up wind-down massage. Well enjoyed!
Was all set to go, and then she started asking about a tip. I didn't have really much to give in small bills and she wasn't too happy. She wouldn't take the 15k I tried to give her which was all I had in my wallet
I thought the whole point of these places was we didn't have to tip? So 90% good, but the tip thing put me off. I'll head somewhere else next time. If anyone knows some other D1 places closer to the tourist area let me know.
Ok, time to take my anti-clap pills.
Peace out brothers![/QUOTE]You are being tested by the gals, the standard system at the dbp place is u pay 200k at the door and nothing extra, if she ask for toip just say that ther tip has already been paid.
Someone recommended I visit a place called Rose, I am not after the address just any comments from any regulars who have been there, those who know it will no doubt recognise the name.
I live out in D7 so its quite a distance so want to be sure its worth the trip and that I don't over pay. I was advised 600k
Thanks in advance
P
[QUOTE=Peterpanabc]Someone recommended I visit a place called Rose, I am not after the address just any comments from any regulars who have been there, those who know it will no doubt recognise the name.
I live out in D7 so its quite a distance so want to be sure its worth the trip and that I don't over pay. I was advised 600k
Thanks in advance
P[/QUOTE]
Went past it today around 1330. The gates were shut with only the small flap door open for locking/unlocking.
Ticket = 100k. tip = upto you. (4-500k) If you get a mind blowing leg shaking earth shattering (insert more descriptive words here) experience then tip more.
Dropped into the Superbowl mall today, Still pretty crappy but nevertheless the MP was opened.
Walked upstairs and entered. Whisked away to the changeroom. Had the usual crowd of Korean men naked wandering around and staring. Stripped off, wrapped up with a nice clean soft towel, and had a steambath. Nice smelling one too.
Theres a few spa's with a couple guys sitting in, Seating area where you can compare dick sizes? while eating fruit platter or other snacks.
After the shower with dual soap dispensers. Left was Dove and Right was Xmen or something walked into the large sofa recliner room. Here you can get a foot massage while watching the soccer or Korean tv soap's. If your not a fan of smoking then you want to bypass this and go straight to the massage rooms.
Entered the room and under 30sec's later a pretty girl appeared.
Phuong #14.
She proceded to use plenty of oil and massage me, walking/slip sliding on my back, legs, arms. After she got the hot rocks out and used them to massage.
She offered to "massa baby" but I declined. Great fun with the massuest.
Doubt there is any FS going on as the setup is pretty much like a korean/chinese footmassage. The rooms are very small but solidly made with brick dividers.
Ticket was 110k. coke was 10k. Tip 100k. (I know I could have paid 50k but for 90min's of hard work it was well worth it)
Good detail report. Thanks for sharing.
What does the Sheraton Spa charge for a hour . It was about $85 when I visted. Few years back.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Dropped into the Superbowl mall today, Still pretty crappy but nevertheless the MP was opened.
Walked upstairs and entered. Whisked away to the changeroom. Had the usual crowd of Korean men naked wandering around and staring. Stripped off, wrapped up with a nice clean soft towel, and had a steambath. Nice smelling one too.
Theres a few spa's with a couple guys sitting in, Seating area where you can compare dick sizes? while eating fruit platter or other snacks.
After the shower with dual soap dispensers. Left was Dove and Right was Xmen or something walked into the large sofa recliner room. Here you can get a foot massage while watching the soccer or Korean tv soap's. If your not a fan of smoking then you want to bypass this and go straight to the massage rooms.
Entered the room and under 30sec's later a pretty girl appeared.
Phuong #14.
She proceded to use plenty of oil and massage me, walking/slip sliding on my back, legs, arms. After she got the hot rocks out and used them to massage.
She offered to "massa baby" but I declined. Great fun with the massuest.
Doubt there is any FS going on as the setup is pretty much like a korean/chinese footmassage. The rooms are very small but solidly made with brick dividers.
Ticket was 110k. coke was 10k. Tip 100k. (I know I could have paid 50k but for 90min's of hard work it was well worth it)[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I thought everyone would like a good laugh! We took a trip down to Vung Tau just before Tet, the week before, and we stayed in the Vung Tau Intourist Hotel and Resort, right on the beach. Very, very nice place, good food and right outside is a cabana and a woman and her son selling Crabs, Shrimp, Clams, etc. And they will cook them for you right there! Love that Seafood.
Anyway, one afternoon, I wandered downstairs to the Massage Salon, where I paid, I believe it was $10, or the equivalent in VND, and was shown to a room. On the way in, I saw a couple of just awesome cuties, in short skirts, and I knew they were Massa Girls, but when the door to my room opened, in walks a middle-aged woman, sort of matronly looking, and has long since seen her 40th birthday in my estimation.
Now, I know what you are thinking, I should have just gotten up, went outside and told Mamasan that I wanted another girl! You might as well know, that is not my style. I figure that, when I walked in, I had the opportunity to ask for one of the cuties as I was paying, but I got a brain-fart and didn't. So, Mamasan sends in the one it is hardest to make money for herself, gives her a shot at me. So, to me, its too late. When I am the one who fucks up, I just live with it. LOL
Anyway, I do not wear a wedding band, never liked them as I have been known to leave my Businessman environment, go home and take a tranny out of a car! Rings and that do not mix! So, this old gal starts to give me a pretty damn good, hard massage. Much more than adequate, just like I like it. However, I was relieved that she didn't offer to walk on my back, seeing as she is a few kilos overweight! Ha ha
Then, she noticing I wear no ring, I guess she figured I was a rich, unattached Ong My, and was ripe for the pickings! There ensued an hour-long sell-session! She trying to sell Me, on Her! She explained how good she could be to me, how wonderful a wife she could be, how wonderfully she would take care of me and even nurse me in my old age. LOL Then, he gave me a big hug, and started whispering in my ear, telling me that to prove it all, she would like to give me a blow job before I left, and then, come up to my room later that night. Her eyes got big as she told me, "I boom boom real good for you! I even boom boom you so good you be happy! "
Well, who am I to argue with her? She proceeded to finish the massage, took it upon herself to do exactly as she told me she would. With fine results, I might add. It was apparent she had some excellent tutoring in the art of fellatio. Then, when I got ready to leave, she asked me about coming to my room, and I told her I must first talk to the hotel about getting a room with a bigger bed. When she asked me why, I told her my Wife wouldn't want to sleep so close to her!
Ok, so I am an asshole. Sue me. Ha ha ha ha
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Hi All,
I am heading off to Vietnam latter in the month and will be staying in District 3. Having had a search through the older posts, there dorsn't seem to be much action for massage parlours in this area.
I would be grateful if one of the gurus of the area (or indeed anyone else who may have some info), could enlighten me.
Thanks
Handy
[QUOTE=Hardlock1]Hi,
I thought everyone would like a good laugh! .......
....... Then, when I got ready to leave, she asked me about coming to my room, and I told her I must first talk to the hotel about getting a room with a bigger bed. When she asked me why, I told her my Wife wouldn't want to sleep so close to her!
Ok, so I am an asshole. Sue me. Ha ha ha ha
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awsome laugh! gotta love it!
great answer.
thanks for sharing it with us
Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. Drive down the street Bui Bang Doan, left bend in the Hung Gia 2, 30 meters continue on the right side is an outside decente House is written with long red curtains do with massage. 4-10 Girls, the girls look is a range from 7-8, and the are always there, it has 2-3 floors with beautiful rooms. Open every day from 10am-23pm, I think has been now almost since 2 years big in the business with police protection so no fear from any Ride. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Pici Picidae]Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the post Pici, but at 1mill thats double what we pay for at other places.
You welcome. I know thats expensive. But when you in a hurry quick morning cafe and breakfast without search not so bad isen't. With aircon and nice shower. Pants down and take it and enjoy the ride.
[QUOTE=Pici Picidae] spare me now with your mystery. Mongering is not a trade secret. Will have longer talked about it. Be nice together and post good information. And use the proper tread for the right topic.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info but regarding your comment about trade secrets, unfortunately in VN somethings have to be secret. On a Vietnamese language forum similar to this, they rarely post addresses of places and sometimes not even names. Its all done by personal message. The government do monitor these websites and if a place is getting a lot of publicity they will shut it down, regardless of whether the local police 'protect' it already or not. This applies for places that cater to foreigners or vietnamese. Just to warn you.
Well, I've been here in HCMC and finally, found the time to explore out on DBP. I don't have a motorbike so I usually walk. Yeah, crazy right, but it is my preference as one can easily shoot down alleyways to check out new places.
So walking on DBP from D3, I only spotted one MP. I was hoping to find more and crossing the street to the other side would be a feat. I found a lot of Karaoke places on this road but found the B&G place and even though it's a bit run down, the service was awesome.
Maybe it was the girl that I had, didn't even ask her name, but I won't forget her face. She took her time, with such a slow and gradually build up just the way I like it. Then she could tell I was about primed to go and she picked up the pace. She really knew how to read my reactions and performed accordingly.
Maybe my memory is short, but it was by far the best performance I've experienced in the last 18 months here. I'll be going back again to see if the service remains consistent.
There is a place on Le Thanh Ton. Barbershop and massage, pretty upscale and expensive. But the massage is amazing and leaves you so horny you almost die. The girls are really good at working you up very slowly. One girl, Hong wil even do a prostrate massage. HJ and BJ are always included and with a little effort, you get the works. Hong isn't amazing looking, but very sexy and is really tight. Another girl I prefer is Thu. A little chubby but great tits and the cutest little ass. She's always willing. But the place is pricey
Went to Rona massage a couple of times. Found a girl named Kim Thoa. Gorgeous with some nice curves. Shy but accomodating BBBJ and HJ plus strips down and lets you finger her to orgasm. Quite cheap, but I don't know if she's still there.
Went to the FS in Phu My Hung. One girl with an amazing ass and another with very nice tits. Both cheap and very accomadating. Some of the girls there are kind of plain looking.
Any recommendations for good service in Hot Tocs on NTT or LVL? I live in the area but haven't visited any yet. Great massage by a girl named Diem at Hoang Anh Gia Lai 2, but no extras that I am aware of.
Went on a quick tour of the NTT/LVT area. Assuming this is in District 7.
It cost 50K dong for a taxi ride from Pham Ngu Lao. There's a Lotte World Mall close by.
I walked around in the afternoon. A lot of Hot Tocs around. But some seemed legit with people getting shaves and haircuts. Some were empty with a few girls looking bored; assuming these are the places. Saw a lot of cafes; wondering if anything else is offered in these cafes.
This scene is different from other countries; it is not as blatant. The girls were not waving me in.
Didn't partake; don't like this type of scene (that's my preference; although I have and will probably do it again in that type of scene). Prices are great, but places like these are probably dirty. Girls looked marginal.
Found a place very near my hotel (Sommerset). It is called Ngoc Ahn Therapy Massage. Lots of female workers in the lobby. Some cute, some average.
Is this a legit place or can I get extras?
The place is on Nguyem Bihn Khiem St.
TIA,
Joe
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Found a place very near my hotel (Sommerset). It is called Ngoc Ahn Therapy Massage. Lots of female workers in the lobby. Some cute, some average. Is this a legit place or can I get extras? The place is on Nguyem Bihn Khiem St.[/QUOTE]Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip. Are the mini-hotels safe? My hotel here does not allow visitors after 10pm and also I'm here on business with other business associates so not a good idea for me to bring someone here.
As far as the massage place, I did get an amazing legit massage from a cute 20 year old. No extras but the massage was amazing!
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and so a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?
I was walking back to my hotel and on the other side there was a whole bunch of lounge chairs. Some girls were waving at me to come over. Are these girls "available?"
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and saw a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?
[/QUOTE]Joe, You are looking for the place with tons of girls on motos to pick up and take to fuck hotels, right? You have the exact directions from this forum adn you followed them, right? You get there and you see tons of girls on bikes riding around, right? And now you are writing back here to inquire if those are the girls you can pick up? Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JD
[QUOTE=Pici Picidae]Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. Drive down the street Bui Bang Doan, left bend in the Hung Gia 2, 30 meters continue on the right side is an outside decente House is written with long red curtains do with massage. 4-10 Girls, the girls look is a range from 7-8, and the are always there, it has 2-3 floors with beautiful rooms. Open every day from 10am-23pm, I think has been now almost since 2 years big in the business with police protection so no fear from any Ride. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Hi All,
I tried to find this place mentioned by Pici. I know the Hung Gia 2 and turned in looking for a massage or spa type place with red curtains but did not see one. I think there were 3 'spas' on the street. I stopped into 'Hello Spa' which has off white or cream colored curtains. There were four or five girls and a cashier doing nothing. The table at the cashier had a sign that read 200k ticket. There was a back room with red curtains and chairs for hair wash. The girls said the massage was upstairs for 1 hour. I did not ask about what service is provided as the girls were 4-5's at best. They were polite and friendly though. I noted a wooden model ship on the table in the reception area. Is this the place you mentioned Pici?
Also, what does 'outside decente House' mean?
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Joe, You are looking for the place with tons of girls on motos to pick up and take to fuck hotels, right? You have the exact directions from this forum adn you followed them, right? You get there and you see tons of girls on bikes riding around, right? And now you are writing back here to inquire if those are the girls you can pick up? Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JD[/QUOTE]
I do appreciate your help. I'm not used to the culture area so I want to make sure I do it correctly. Plus I don't speak the language so I want to be careful...
If it was your first time in the US I'm sure you would want to make sure you did things correctly so you would not get arrested!
[QUOTE=Johndao]Hi All,
I tried to find this place mentioned by Pici. I know the Hung Gia 2 and turned in looking for a massage or spa type place with red curtains but did not see one. I think there were 3 'spas' on the street. I stopped into 'Hello Spa' which has off white or cream colored curtains. There were four or five girls and a cashier doing nothing. The table at the cashier had a sign that read 200k ticket. There was a back room with red curtains and chairs for hair wash. The girls said the massage was upstairs for 1 hour. I did not ask about what service is provided as the girls were 4-5's at best. They were polite and friendly though. I noted a wooden model ship on the table in the reception area. Is this the place you mentioned Pici?
Also, what does 'outside decente House' mean?
JD[/QUOTE]Dear Johndao,
If you pull left into the street it is the first on the right site. decente - equal to more recent family house. I go just now quick to the address you mentioned in NPK thanks for the info. yes, thank you for that.
there are some very beautiful place's outside like a small cross street to Vanh Dai Trong, uhhhhhhh.
or in Dinh Bo Linh or more out in Tham Binh,
Have a beautiful Day ;-)
greetings pici picidae
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]I do appreciate your help. I'm not used to the culture area so I want to make sure I do it correctly. Plus I don't speak the language so I want to be careful...
If it was your first time in the US I'm sure you would want to make sure you did things correctly so you would not get arrested![/QUOTE]Yes, I guessed you are American, the least travelled, most trusting, innocent, naive people in the world, utterly unaccustomed to the ways of other places. I know, I am one too.
It's just that YOU have the advantage of using this Forum and knowing the REAL deal, the score in advance. But despite the knowledge which others have taken the time to so generously share, you seem utterly helpless in dealing with people half your age and probably with a fraction of the education.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JD[/QUOTE]JD, You are being too kind...
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and so a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?[/QUOTE]Um, I think you asked two questions. I will type real slow so you can understand. Just stand at the side of the road and watch. The girls who are working will keep circling and circling, making the u-turn at the intersection. Just stand at the side of the road and soon one will stop and offer boom-boom. Don't consider another reply on this subject unless you grow some balls and actually go out and fuck a girl.
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]I was walking back to my hotel and on the other side there was a whole bunch of lounge chairs. Some girls were waving at me to come over. Are these girls "available?"[/QUOTE]No, the place with the thumping techno music and locals hanging out on lounge chairs next to Ngoc Anh Massage has girls, but they will just sit mindlessly with you while you drink. No action. AR
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]JD, You are being too kind...
Um, I think you asked two questions. I will type real slow so you can understand. Just stand at the side of the road and watch. The girls who are working will keep circling and circling, making the u-turn at the intersection. Just stand at the side of the road and soon one will stop and offer boom-boom. Don't consider another reply on this subject unless you grow some balls and actually go out and fuck a girl.
No, the place with the thumping techno music and locals hanging out on lounge chairs next to Ngoc Anh Massage has girls, but they will just sit mindlessly with you while you drink. No action. AR[/QUOTE]
I must say this. I've been mongering in many countries (Dubai, Mexico and the U.S.). For the most part, people in those forums have been very patient and understanding of a newbie person in that country. Sure, maybe I'm not assertive (not in my nature). I feel at a disadvantage since I don't speak the language. Some of the people in this forum have been helpful and patient. But for the most part, many of you seem to be angry. This seems to be a place where you can get a $5 US blowjob. I would certainly be a happier person...
Some of us are new to mongering in Vietnam so I wanted to give a report of my recent experience in the area.
First of all, I've been mongering for many years, mainly in the US, Middle East and parts of Mexico. Vietnam is completely different than what I'm used to and it takes some time to get acclimated.
The first culture shock is the amount of people here. Especially the amount of people on mopeds. I've read in this forum and other places that they had many moped drivers but you will not believe it until you see it. Red lights are a suggestion. There are no such thing as lane. Ok to drive in the wrong direction or on the sidewalk. I was schooled on the best way to cross the street. But the first time doing it is much different than someone telling you what to do. Much like mongering advice...
So my first time out to the BJ place was a bust. While I was told what to do it was much different once inside. The first place I went to I did not do it correctly (asked how much). The second place I did not ask, she kept on asking for 400k. So I walked out. Believe me, it was difficult to walk out. 400k here is what, $20US? Getting a BJ from a young thing for $20 is impossible in the US. I had the money and it would have been so easy to just pay and be done. But out of respect to my fellow mongers I did not want to deviate from the norm. If I start paying 400k then they will be used to that and it will harder on the next newbie. So I stood my ground and walked out.
Tonight was a different story. This time I was prepared to do it right (plus I really needed a BJ). So I went to the first place I went to the first time. Since it was Sunday it seems there were not a lot of girls. I picked a very attractive, thin (but they are all think) girl with nice tits. The best part is that she had these "Angelina Jolie" lips and a great smile. So I picked her and started walking upstairs (acting like I knew the score).
She took me to the second floor, I got to the table and as I as instructed, proceeded to take off my shirt only. She stopped me and said something in Vietnamese. She motioned me to come downstairs with her. She pointed to the lady in charge so I figured out she wanted me to pay the house.I took out 80k for the house and she said no, 400k! But this time I was prepared. I only had enough with me for the deed and nothing more (I had 80k in one picked and 100k for the girl in another). I looked at her and said: "No, 100k for her and 80k for you). She looked at the girl and looked back at me and said ok. So here is a recommendation to newbies. Take only enough and have the money already separated. If they see you have more, they will ask for more...
So I paid and went back upstairs. I took of my shirt and laid down. The girl proceeded to use those wipes to clean my chest, arms, and hands. Then she took of my pants half way down and proceeded to clean balls and cock. Then she look off her top to expose her tits. I was told the girls would show their pussy but she did not. I did not care: her tits were quite excellent. I would get she was about 18 or 19...
So she starts kissing my chest and stomach. Then she proceeded with the BJ. Good skills, nothing great but I had not had a BJ in over 3 weeks so it felt good. After the deed was done, she cleaned me up and I was on my way.
I will be here for another week so I will try to get there one more time.
Thanks for listening!
Joe
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Some of us are new to mongering in Vietnam so I wanted to give a report of my recent experience in the area.
I will be here for another week so I will try to get there one more time.
Thanks for listening!
Joe[/QUOTE]
Well done. You need to be very assertive in VN otherwise they (girls, police, merchants etc) will walk all over you and charge like a wounded bull.
When you go in, make sure you have a air of confidence and partly act aloof like u know the deal.
Nice report Joe. Sorry you had to deal with the BS. It sounds like you handled it well.
My first time at a "hot toc" place was a disaster. I walked from PNL. It was far. And then I think I paid about 700 or 800,000 for a handjob with just a hint of bj. The report is on here somewhere.
Anyway, you did better than me.
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]
So I paid and went back upstairs. I took of my shirt and laid down. The girl proceeded to use those wipes to clean my chest, arms, and hands. Then she took of my pants half way down and proceeded to clean balls and cock. Then she look off her top to expose her tits. I was told the girls would show their pussy but she did not. I did not care: her tits were quite excellent. I would get she was about 18 or 19...
Joe[/QUOTE]
Good job Joe. Next time just pull her panties down yourself. She will agree and help you. Grab her ass and finger her pussy. Most girls let you finger their ass too if you want. Make sure you cum in her mouth, not a tissue!
Have fun!
JD
Are there any places where you can find girls with fake tits?
For some reason I like large perky tits.. must of been a bottle baby =D
[QUOTE=Pici Picidae]
If you pull left into the street it is the first on the right site. decente - equal to more recent family house. I go just now quick to the address you mentioned in NPK thanks for the info. yes, thank you for that.
there are some very beautiful place's outside like a small cross street to Vanh Dai Trong, uhhhhhhh.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks Pici, I found the decente house but when I was there the girls were really too low for me to consider. Just not well-cared for or attractive around Noon. Cashier said 200k for 1 hour massage, I did not ask about service, extras or tip.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Make sure you cum in her mouth, not a tissue![/QUOTE]
Would not have it any other way!
[QUOTE=Milkweed]Nice report Joe. Sorry you had to deal with the BS. It sounds like you handled it well.
My first time at a "hot toc" place was a disaster. I walked from PNL. It was far. And then I think I paid about 700 or 800,000 for a handjob with just a hint of bj. The report is on here somewhere.
Anyway, you did better than me.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to visit one more time before heading home.
Actually, I might pick two girls instead of one. Has anyone done this?
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]I'm going to visit one more time before heading home.
Actually, I might pick two girls instead of one. Has anyone done this?[/QUOTE]
You get your 20 minute blowjob, each girl sucks half as much as usual, works half as hard as usual. Then you pay twice as much as usual. And you can only cum in one mouth. Waste of money if you ask me, but if it's your thing, go for it.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]You get your 20 minute blowjob, each girl sucks half as much as usual, works half as hard as usual. Then you pay twice as much as usual. And you can only cum in one mouth. Waste of money if you ask me, but if it's your thing, go for it.
JD[/QUOTE]
I hear what you are saying JD. But having two young sexy girls sucking my dick at the same time for $10US might be worth it! Can't get that in the US!!!
Joe
[QUOTE=D Cups]Both Johndao and Asian Rain have been helpful to me in the past in this forum. Thank you. Johndao wants me to post photos of the big-titted girl from Smiley's (she gave me a nice BJ last night) but I still have not learned how to post photos. Maybe my new camera maybe it will be easier. Please don't be so critical of people twice your age and more education and fellow American. I have gotten accustomed to many other places, though, to the point of enjoyment.
Maybe everyone reading this should go out and find some beautiful woman to make love to, yes? And write more about positivity and big boobs :).[/QUOTE]Ok, D Cups. First, if anyone here is twice my age, congratulations to you as you are over 100-years-old! Do I really look that young in my pictures? Thanks!!
Second: Education? I do have a post-graduate degree although only one and it is not a Phd, so I suppose there are many better educated members posting here.
Third, a new camera will not make it any easier for you to post pictures. If you can turn on a computer, start an operating system, load a web browser, navigate to these Forums, sign-in your user name, and post messages you can surely post a picture or two that you have of these amazing big-titted girls. There is nothing difficult except actually wanting to do it.
Fourth: I see dozens and dozens of reports in various Forums over time asking for information but I have never seen any given.
Fifth: I went to a Blow and Go in D7 last week and had a surprise. I am not a 'tit man' and don't choose girls based on breast size or look for large-breasted girls. I am more of an ass man than anything, legs and shoulders as well and I do look for nice lips.
When I saw "L" I immediately noticed her lips, especially her pouty and full lower lip and imagined it sliding down the bottom of my shaft. I also noticed her full, firm ass in short red shorts. Off to the back we went. I hadn't even noticed her black satiny shirt. Till she took it off and I was faced with the hugest Asian breasts I have ever seen on a non-obese girl. No, sorry, they were the largest breasts I had ever seen in person on ANY girl of any race. Now keep in mind, I don't seek out girls like that. I just could not believe those things were hiding under the black shirt and I did not even see a hint of them. Shape? Very round, very full. Firmness? Extremely firm. She is 24, no kids. Like massive rubber balls. Perfect nipples too.
I am not saying I don't appreciate a woman's breasts, I do. But I am all about shape and texture and nipples, not overall size. But this girl was amazing. So BIG! And her ass did not disappoint either. Firm, high, shapely, round. Smooth flat belly too, just a little slightly full.
Her BJ was so-so. She does not get much depth on me and can't handle thickness. She is a major cum dodger. Petrified of the stuff. The place she works in? Dodgy and dirty and small. But a creaky AC on the wall cools the BJ room. Better hope nobody else is in there cause it is not private for two. The price is right though. 60k for the 'massage' and the same 60 up to 100k if you want to the girl. She is the third I have had there although the others were some months ago. 60 and 60 is ok if you want. I gave "L" 150k all done (90+60) because she had to work long and hard to make me cum with her mediocre skills and at one point she gave up but then persisted with more determination and help from my left hand. Plus she got a premium for the tit show.
If you want to know where I found her, PM me. No guarantee she is still there though. With her looks and those massive bangers she can do a lot better with little effort.
JD
I ventured out to the local BJ shop I reported on earlier. It was about 10:15pm when I left my hotel and it was probably close to 11pm when I got to the street. As I was walking towards the place I notice that it was dark. None of the places seemed to be opened. I did not have a watch so I do not know exactly what time I was there but it was definitely before midnight.
I did not even think to ask: what time do these shops close? What time do they open? I'm in town for a few more days and wanted to get another trip there before heading home...
Joe
[quote=joe coodidge]i hear what you are saying jd. but having two young sexy girls sucking my dick at the same time for $10us might be worth it! can't get that in the us!!!
joe[/quote]the way to do it is to offer the one who makes you cum another tip (say 100k)
and time each ones time in 10 second intervals. they will be trying their hardest to make you cum. i did it one time and they were literally pulling each other off my cock when it was their turn and slurping and sucking and licking and massaging my balls and doing what ever they could think of to make me cum.
make sure that they understand that its technique and not speed that makes you cum or they will be sucking cock at super speed.
it can be quite comical and yet very satisfying as well.
enjoy,
wangho6969
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]I ventured out to the local BJ shop I reported on earlier. It was about 10:15pm when I left my hotel and it was probably close to 11pm when I got to the street. As I was walking towards the place I notice that it was dark. None of the places seemed to be opened. I did not have a watch so I do not know exactly what time I was there but it was definitely before midnight.
I did not even think to ask: what time do these shops close? What time do they open? I'm in town for a few more days and wanted to get another trip there before heading home...
Joe[/QUOTE]
All,
They open from 10 AM to 10 PM, give or take a bit.
JD
Hi all,
I am quite newbie, been looking at posts for a few weeks.
I would like to thank all for good informations you post.
Now it's my turn.
I didn't read anyting about District 2. Here is some street you should go: on Nguyen Duy Trinh there are some Hot Toc, some are regular, and some ar not.
For people living in district 2, so that you don't need to cross the city to go to TB District or else.
This evening I decided to get a post-coital massage to fully loosen up.
As I was driving on Tran Khac Chan Q1 close to NBK and NDC I saw neon signage for FB massage at Spring Hotel.
Basically to cut things short, the facilities were unsophisticated though new-ish, foot massage was excellent (male foot masseur's name: son) - great conversationalist, massage was done by very attractive lazy, boney, girl. The place does not appear to have good staff morale.
Damage..:
To house: 120k body massage, 80k foot massage
Tips: 50k body massage (i was really considering not giving it to her b/c I left within 15 minutes) + 100k for foot guy + 50k for clothes boy. They were trying to pressure me into giving the damn hot manager a 50k for opening the door for me and smiling...
Details are (business card):
Du Xuan/Spring Hotel
3 Tran Khac Chan, Tan Dinh, Q1, HCMC
Phone: 08 6291 5056
Proprietor: Nguyen Hung Sang
Recommended to steer clear.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Damage..:
To house: 120k body massage, 80k foot massage
Tips: 50k body massage (i was really considering not giving it to her b/c I left within 15 minutes) + 100k for foot guy + 50k for clothes boy. They were trying to pressure me into giving the damn hot manager a 50k for opening the door for me and smiling.[/QUOTE]You got ripped off. foot massage should be included in the 120k - tip the foot guy 50k. tip the clothes boy 10k.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]You got ripped off. foot massage should be included in the 120k - tip the foot guy 50k. tip the clothes boy 10k.[/QUOTE]
I personally chose to pay the guy 100k b/c he was excellent. I knew the going rate.
I didn't know that the 200k for massage + foot was overpriced. I go regularly to Ngoc Anh and they charge 150k just for 60 mins of body massage.
Thanks, I'll take note to give the clothes boy less next time.
BTW, I went to the HT on NTT and the perpendicular to it (something like L...). Definitely an excellent BJ CIM setup.
Thanks to you guys who've led me to it =D
I went to my favorite (formerly) BJ place on NPK last week. I have been going there for 5 years, at the 3 locations they have had on the same street. Always kind of a hit and miss place depending on the girls but the misses were always a lot better than the misses of other places, so it was a good bet nearly every time. But last week around 11am I saw the motliest crew of super unattractive girls I have seen there. I mean not one was even mildly interesting. Ok, it was 11:30 am, early maybe, but still. . . Really awful, at least 6 girls. So I went to their second location a few blocks away (the street with all the Banh Xeo) and saw two real cuties with enormous and real breasts. I went for the the one with the less huge pair (although still tremendous) and her BJ was just ok. She had the skill to go deep on a thick one but she was not willing to employ it over and over again. And strangely, no digital penetration anywhere. I don't like that. Great ball ass too and cute face. 100k to her for CIM and same to the house as I had no small notes.
JD
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]
BTW, I went to the HT on NTT and the perpendicular to it (something like L...). Definitely an excellent BJ CIM setup.
Thanks to you guys who've led me to it =D[/QUOTE]
Harry, Which HT on NTT? My former favorite now is just a real shit rip-off joint. And it was so good before with very cute young girls and clean fresh smelling rooms and comfy tables. Just sucks now. So looking for a new recommendation on NTT. PM me if you like.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]So I went to their second location a few blocks away (the street with all the Banh Xeo) and saw two real cuties with enormous and real breasts.[/QUOTE]
Please, tell me here or on PM the name/location of this place. I jump on a motorbike taxi right away. Promise a report later.
Total 200k?
Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.[/QUOTE]
Hey Milk,
Question: You know that on NPK right in D1 the Blow and Go places are 80k (or100k) to the house and 100k more to the girl for CIM BJ. Same on DBP and DBL. So why would you go out to D5 and find a 40k massa/BJ place and think that the 'price' is 200k for HJ and 400k for BJ? Yeah, I know what she 'said.' Does that sound reasonable or seem logical to you? Furthermore, why 'endure' a massage that you really don't like? What's the point of that? If you don't like her massage, show her what you like. I like neck and shoulder massage as I carry a lot of tension there. So I am happy if the girl only massages my neck and shoulders and I'll demo for her if need be. No need to suffer. You are the paying customer, right? There is no need to give a girl 200k for HJ anywhere in HCMC and certainly no reason to give 400k for a BJ anywhere but in the tourist bars on HBT.
JD
First question of yours: 500k for FS take-out
Second Question of yours: Learn to speak enough Vietnamese
JD, Do you remember the Hot Toc on Nguyen Hu Canh (near to junction of HBT and TQK)? been away for a while and when I came back it had closed. I had a lot of fun there and want to know if it moved or where the girls went to. (seem to remember you said the owners had a couple of other places)
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]JD, Do you remember the Hot Toc on Nguyen Hu Canh (near to junction of HBT and TQK)? been away for a while and when I came back it had closed. I had a lot of fun there and want to know if it moved or where the girls went to. (seem to remember you said the owners had a couple of other places)
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Do you mean the place on Nguyen Van Nguyen? Closed or moved. The others are on NPK opposite the big cafe and cut-in street (written about here on the Forum over and over) and the third is on the street I never remember the name of except as Banh Xeo St because there are many Banh Xeo restaurants there. It's around the corner. Just don't know the name of the street. Look for the HT with smoked glass doors.
JD
[QUOTE=Milkweed]Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.[/QUOTE]I have been to that place I'm pretty sure or the one down the road, 40k for the shop and 100k for a HJ with pussy and tits groping.
I have got numbers in the past but never chased it up, but again 500k for a ST would be a fair price or even lower 300k would be my price.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Do you mean the place on Nguyen Van Nguyen? Closed or moved. The others are on NPK opposite the big cafe and cut-in street (written about here on the Forum over and over) and the third is on the street I never remember the name of except as Banh Xeo St because there are many Banh Xeo restaurants there. It's around the corner. Just don't know the name of the street. Look for the HT with smoked glass doors.
JD[/QUOTE]Thanks. disappointed it's gone. Will try the banh xeo st place. Know where you're talking about.
Okay, so I'm new to Vietnam. I've never been there, however I have lived in Thailand for the last 3 years and thus contributed a lot to that forum. I've perused the threads here and it seems that Vietnam....well it's not the best place for mongering. The MPs seem to be the only places to get action at a decent price. $10 for a blowjob? Where do I sign up? That's half the price of Bangkok! I've RTFF and it seems that if I go to district 7 and take a stroll down Nguyen Thi Thap I can find some beautiful big tittied girl to suck me off, right? I'm in HCMC for 5 days, and Hoi An for about 3. Cheers for any info!
Yo fellow mongers,
Just happen to be in HCMC for biz two weekends ago. One night only.
Unfortunaly, busy most time, and missed the chance.
But, soon going back again!
Anyway, as I stayed at Lan Lan (which seemed way too uptight to bring a local beauty in.) I saw a barber shop just on the same street.
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
In that case. I blew it this time, rather than someone else doing it.
P.S. Loved the story on 100k for the double BJ to the girl finishing the guy off first. Smart idea to get more action.
[QUOTE=Bijinnampa]Yo fellow mongers,
Just happen to be in HCMC for biz two weekends ago. One night only.
Unfortunaly, busy most time, and missed the chance.
But, soon going back again!
Anyway, as I stayed at Lan Lan (which seemed way too uptight to bring a local beauty in.) I saw a barber shop just on the same street.
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
In that case. I blew it this time, rather than someone else doing it.
P.S. Loved the story on 100k for the double BJ to the girl finishing the guy off first. Smart idea to get more action.[/QUOTE]
The Hot Toc place across the street from Lan Lan Hotel is Le Duyen. This is a Legit place, the girls will give you a hair wash and a massage. Nothing happens in here so you didn't miss much.
[QUOTE=Bijinnampa]
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
[/QUOTE]
Just remember things are not what they look/seem like here. If you think its a FSMP chances are its not.
There are very few of these and are very hard to get to.
On the other hand there are plenty of hair dressers who will dress sexily and wash,massage, trim your nails.
Walked over to district 3 yesterday based on a report here. There's one MP on Dien Bien Phu. Went inside about 11pm. 70k. Sauna and shower, then go upstairs to meet the girl. You cannot choose the girl here. Her name was Tao - probably about 35 yrs old. Good massage. Turns me over and offers a hj/bj. Wants 300k. I goff and bargain down to 200k (she wouldn't go any lower). Horrible. BJ skills were terrible - she licked the tip and that was it. HJ skills were also deplorable. I was able to grope her and finger her but I would not recommend this place.
Walked around district 1 for awhile. THere are these massage girls who advertise massages but they are NOT the ones giving it so I didn't bother. There are motobike girls around pham ngu lao - 300k for an hour but you can bargain down i think. I didn't bother because they are not that hot around this area. Will check out district 7 tonight and hopefully have more luck.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]Wow. Your tone is so shitty.[/QUOTE]
You are right Milkweed, my tone was shitty so let me apologize. I was in a bad mood and one should not be replying here when in a bad mood. Were it an office email I would have saved it to drafts and then re-read it later and softened or deleted it.
Let me try again.
We know from this Forum that there are numerous HT in D1 (NPK) and BT (DBP and DBL) where a ticket is 80k and the tip for CIM BJ is 100k with no discussion of price beforehand. As I have written beforehand, discussion of price beforehand is NOT a standard practice in VN except at shops and with girls looking to rip-off Newbies and tourists.
The HT you went to was in D5 and the ticket only 40k. Those two facts, plus the fact that she was quoting extremely high prices beforehand should alert you that this is an attempted rip-off and to not go along. So you paid 240k for a HJ where you would have paid 200k for a CIM BJ on NPK and DBP and DBL. Better would have been to tell her it's 100k for CIM BJ or just walk out after massage with no cum and give her 50k.
If you can get a HT girl to a hotel, try her at 500k for fuck and suck. Depending on her, her looks and how many offers she has, she may go for that or for more. She has limited time off from the HT and many offers if she is hot, so she goes for highest bidders, not volume of customers.
As foreigners living in Vietnam, if we want to communicate with non-E speaking locals we have 3 choices: 1) If you are looking long-term, send her to E school 2) if you are looking short-term, get a VNese friend to do the communication for you by phone or text 3) lastly, learn enough VNese to communicate and understand what you want.
I have often said here that there is a high English Language premium, about 500k Dong. HBT bar girls can get by in E, some of them are pretty good. But they charge you 600k for BJ and over 1m for FS. Much of this premium is not for looks but for E skills.
Sorry again for previous.
JD
JD. You are a gentleman. And I need to apologize too. My post was rude.
Thanks for the information.
A lot of free time this past weekend. I thought about going to Bui Thi xuan to get a massage from one of the beautiful girls. I think massage + hair wash is 100,000 + tip. But I decided to try a new massage place instead and take a gamble.
I went to a Massage place on Tran Binh Trong (between Ng. Trai and Tran Hung Dao). 70,000 for an hour. You walk in, go past the empty restaurant, see an elevator on your right and go up to the 5th floor.
I saw a few girls here and they look fairly good. They wear short skirts, but they're with sewn in shorts.
Massage was surprisingly good. Not painful, but strong and professional. Well except that I noticed her hand would rest on the bottom of my ass when not in use. A good sign. And sure enough, the leg massage was quite exciting. The most erotic massage that i've ever had. So much teasing and a little tickling. She did this for some time. Then I flipped over and a little more teasing and then.... She wanted to negotiate.
Now, my way of thinking about this is that I should tip about 100,000 for a great massage. So I offered 150,000 (to include massaging "baby"). She said "khong duoc". She tried negotiating further, but i simply declined the "baby" massage.
She continued the massage and it was still great. And she still teased some.
So anyway the massage was 1.5 hours. I paid 100,000 for the massage and 100,000 for the tip.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]A lot of free time this past weekend. I thought about going to Bui Thi xuan to get a massage from one of the beautiful girls. I think massage + hair wash is 100,000 + tip. But I decided to try a new massage place instead and take a gamble.
I went to a Massage place on Tran Binh Trong (between Ng. Trai and Tran Hung Dao). 70,000 for an hour. You walk in, go past the empty restaurant, see an elevator on your right and go up to the 5th floor.
I saw a few girls here and they look fairly good. They wear short skirts, but they're with sewn in shorts.
Massage was surprisingly good. Not painful, but strong and professional. Well except that I noticed her hand would rest on the bottom of my ass when not in use. A good sign. And sure enough, the leg massage was quite exciting. The most erotic massage that i've ever had. So much teasing and a little tickling. She did this for some time. Then I flipped over and a little more teasing and then.... She wanted to negotiate.
Now, my way of thinking about this is that I should tip about 100,000 for a great massage. So I offered 150,000 (to include massaging "baby"). She said "khong duoc". She tried negotiating further, but i simply declined the "baby" massage.
She continued the massage and it was still great. And she still teased some.
So anyway the massage was 1.5 hours. I paid 100,000 for the massage and 100,000 for the tip.[/QUOTE]
Next time you don't negotiate. Don't talk money. It feels good, you are relaxed. Why ruin your experience and interrupt the flow to talk money? Just let her go ahead and massage 'baby'. When all is done, tip her the same 100k, that's fine. No one will question that. 100k is always an ok tip for a hotel massage, no need to tip more with or without HJ. Don't be timid.
Why do so many here adopt the VNese cultural assumption that customers are there to please the workers rather than the other way around?
Hefty tips to cold bargirls/PR girls hoping they may be nicer in the future, 200k for 5 mins tit show, and so on. The main topic here seems to be how to please with big tips, VNese who do little or nothing for us. It's really frustrating and I see why many past contributors have mostly dropped out and become lurkers.
JD
I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.[/QUOTE]
You can always pass it back to her. Wave your hand back and forth near your ear and tell her 'up to you' (whether or not to do HJ). Then if she does it, give her 100k after. Or you can tell her 'no HJ, 50k (or 30k or 20k) tip, HJ 100k tip' and let her decide. I'd just look annoyed and tell her it's up to her (theo em). In your case, at that place, she would normally get a 100k tip from a normal customer for massage and HJ. From you she got the 100k without the slight extra work of HJ, so for her it's a good deal anyway. You need to make it a bad deal for her without the HJ. This is similar to what was being discussed in another thread about an unfriendly and cold PR girl or 'hostess'. One poster wrote that if she was really good looking he would give her a bigger than normal tip for her poor behavior, hoping she might be nice to him next time. Other posters strongly disagreed.
But generally you want to avoid these kind of rip-off joints where girls talk about money after they have you excited. These are just the worst kinds of places to go and they are not normal, not standard here in VN except for as I said, in the tourist areas and for newbies. Better to go to Ngoc Anh massage on Ng Cu Trinh or Ng Binh Khiem and get a real 1 hr massage for 150k with no HJ or BJ offered.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]...But generally you want to avoid these kind of rip-off joints where girls talk about money after they have you excited. These are just the worst kinds of places to go and they are not normal, not standard here in VN except for as I said, in the tourist areas and for newbies. Better to go to Ngoc Anh massage on Ng Cu Trinh or Ng Binh Khiem and get a real 1 hr massage for 150k with no HJ or BJ offered.
JD[/QUOTE]
On the topic of clean massages, I used to be a regular at Ngoc Anh. But they get too many customers and have become what I call a 'McDonalds' of massage in HCMC. The last straw for me there was at their Nguyen Binh Khiem location, where I asked for 90 mins (I always do) but got a giggly newbie masseuse who tried to engage in small talk and short-changed me on time - ended around the 1h10min mark.
My regular place now I've been going to for more than a year - clean no-hanky-panky place. My regular masseuse's skillful hands give me a full 90 min shiatsu-chinese tui na-thai combination rub-down that leaves me floating out of there... :)
[QUOTE=Milkweed]I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.[/QUOTE]
Try this:
Em oi, anh qua day de thoai mai thoi. Em lam massage baby cho anh hay la khong thi khong sao, theo em thoi. em cho anh vui, anh biet cham soc nhu the nao nhe. dung co noi nhieu, anh biet lam sao nhe.
[i]"Dearie, I come here to relax. It doesnt matter whether you give me a happy ending or not, its up to you. If you make me happy, I know how I should 'take care' of you. Dont talk too much, I how to do."[/i]
I went over to District 7 at about 9 pm. From District 1 it's 50,000 on a motorbike. The dude got lost and it took about 30 minutes. Some advice: have a map on you so you can show him exactly where to go. Anyway I walked down the main street from Lotte Mart and there weren't any SWs that I could see. There were a few hot toc places. I finally just walked into one, chose a girl and went to the back. It's a pretty dodgy area and thus the Hot Toc place looked pretty dirty. The girl's name was "Toy". She got undressed and gave me a bj, CIM. Wasn't a great bj, though - nothing like the Thai girls do. Total damage was 200k. She of course asked for more but I declined and left. Pretty dirty place - hope I didn't catch anything.
The next night I went to district one - near NBK (but south of there - I forget the street name but it's an intersection that Asian Rain has alluded to in the past). I was looking for the motobike girls. The way you can spot them is that they are the girls not wearing helmets and they are just cruising around. 3 stopped in front of me asking if I wanted to fuck them short time. All three quoted me 500k, which I assume doesn't include the hotel. I declined because I thought it was a bit steep and none of them were lookers - way too much makeup and a bit scary looking.
I went over to NBK in district one. Found a few Hot Toc places. I went to the last one on the street. I walked in and chose a hot looking young thing - she was about 19 or 20. 50k for the "massage" and 100k to her - which she asked for upfront. She spoke zero English so I reluctantly agreed. Now I"ve had some bad bjs in my life - but this was the absolute worst. First, she would only lick my shaft. I threatened to get up and leave, but she quickly improved. She would suck for about 5 seconds and then revert to the hj without any kind of lotion, which started to hurt after awhile. I played with her tits, but she kept brushing my hand away. No CIM. She put a towel over my dick when I came. I looked later and had a rash from her violent hj. She asked for a tip. I said "No fucking way" and started to walk out but the manager stopped me and forced me to give her another 50k. I looked at the manager, pointed at the girl and said "She very very very BAD" and gave her the thumbs down and left.
I've come to the conclusion that this country sucks for mongering. It's dirty, overpriced, and difficult to find what you're looking for. Thailand and Cambodia has this country beat in so many ways it's not even funny. My advice: save your money. For a country where the phrases "boom boom" and "love you long time" originated, neither one is actually being practiced. I'm off to Thailand in a few days - it may be a bit more expensive there, but at least access is much easier and more fun.
I've tried a number of the HT places on vo thi sau (d1) and none of them provided any extra services. They even have girls in pinks robes in the front. Does anyone here share the same experience?
There are several good HT places near parksons at the airport.
Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.[/QUOTE]
Hey Kid,
Glad you are having a good time with my recommendation to you via PM. You don't have to refer to me as "a Forum Member", you can use my name to say thanks. After all, that's what the Forum is for. Never any harm in writing back the same way to say thanks, is there?
BTW, as I wrote you, 200k will do. Maybe there will be a new standard at 250k now? Hope not.
The girl with the most massive ones has had help but her slightly smaller colleague has not, right? This place is under the same management as NPK shop referred to here earlier.
JD
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.[/QUOTE]
Cheers for that info. I walked in and they asked for 400k. I had to negotiate hard to get it down to 200k. It doesn't say "Hot Toc" on the front so it's a bit confusing - but your directions were spot on. Got a BBBJ CIM from the girl with massive tits. 200k + 50k tip. Her name is Yook or Gyuk - couldn't really understand. She's great though - very friendly and awesome tits. Good technique too.
[QUOTE=Mangofan]Cheers for that info. I walked in and they asked for 400k. I had to negotiate hard to get it down to 200k. It doesn't say "Hot Toc" on the front so it's a bit confusing - but your directions were spot on. Got a BBBJ CIM from the girl with massive tits. 200k + 50k tip. Her name is Yook or Gyuk - couldn't really understand. She's great though - very friendly and awesome tits. Good technique too.[/QUOTE]
Was this 200k for the girl or 100k for girl and 100k for house?
So it seems the going rate is now 200k and not 100k as it was just a month ago when I was there.
Still a good bargain in my book. Plus as others have stated, don't start paying their initial asking price!
[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Was this 200k for the girl or 100k for girl and 100k for house?
So it seems the going rate is now 200k and not 100k as it was just a month ago when I was there.
Still a good bargain in my book. Plus as others have stated, don't start paying their initial asking price![/QUOTE]
It's only 200k all done. instead of saying 100k for the house and 100k for the girl, they just say 200k. That's the final price. Maybe they hope some unknowing newbie will tip the girl extra, but it's included already. No need to pay 250k or 300k or whatever when people only ask for 200k.
[QUOTE=Johndao]
Hefty tips to cold bargirls/PR girls hoping they may be nicer in the future, 200k for 5 mins tit show, and so on. The main topic here seems to be how to please with big tips, VNese who do little or nothing for us. It's really frustrating and I see why many past contributors have mostly dropped out and become lurkers.
JD[/QUOTE]
JD, may I remind you that the demand of 200K for a 5 minute tit show was REFUSED by the penguin. Even though he was infatuated with the girl, he is not that stupid :)
I don't like MPs in vn. Too many turnoffs, such as the window in the door, the fact that you can't pick your masseuse and must take whatever girl they give you. I don't go to such places because, being picky, I know that the chances of me being assigned a masseuse that is the kind of girl I'm looking for is 1 in 100 -- not worth the admission fee. Hot tocs are better if only because you can pick the girl.
The other problem is that the MP girl usually offers the HJ at the end of the massage, and, if i'm getting a massage for erotic reasons I want it to last a long time. I want to spend the whole session feeling her and her feeling baby. Quickies done in the last 2 minutes just don't satisfy me. Just as I knew that a 5 minute tit show would not do it for me.
[QUOTE=Pokey Penguin]
The other problem is that the MP girl usually offers the HJ at the end of the massage, and, if i'm getting a massage for erotic reasons I want it to last a long time. I want to spend the whole session feeling her and her feeling baby. Quickies done in the last 2 minutes just don't satisfy me. Just as I knew that a 5 minute tit show would not do it for me.[/QUOTE]
Go to Thailand, you will have a better time. Please. BTW, you can always choose your own girl, everywhere. You just have to do it or walk.
JD
[QUOTE=Sam Hcmc]Hi Johndao, could you tell me some address of HT place for BJ/HJ?
I only try one shop for BJ in DBP for few times and want to jsut something new.
Thanks and I usually pay 100k for BJ as usual
Kindly pm me[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sam Hcmc]Hi Johndao, could you tell me some address of HT place for BJ/HJ?
I only try one shop for BJ in DBP for few times and want to jsut something new.
Thanks and I usually pay 100k for BJ as usual
Kindly pm me[/QUOTE]
Why don't you write up a report first then ask for more info for other shops?
So first the good news. Went to a hj HT on NPK today. Was shown to the VIP room without asking. Asked how much and was told 120,000. *shrug* It's smaller than the main room of course. Had it to myself...I think that is the idea. The girl was hot. Huge eyes and pretty. She asked if i wanted a massage...no. So got down to business. After a little rubbing I stuck my finger in her. She was wet/lubed and the finger slid right in there. She had her legs spread wide and gave me a good angle. When I began exploring her asshole with a finger she reached back to spread her cheeks. So I took my finger out of her and stuck it in the asshole. It put up just a little resistance before I slid it in. That did it for me. A quick session, but good. I tipped 100,000.
Now the bad news. Went to a massage hotel in D5. Girl gave a rough mediocre massage before asking about massaging my "chim". She spoke no English, but asked for 400,000. I laughed. I tried "theo em". Tried to convey that "no chim massage" = 50,000 and "chim massage" = 100,000. She kept pushing for 200,000 so i just shooshed her. She tried asking for 200k for the chim again after she ran out of other things to massage. I told her i was leaving. Gave her a 60,000 tip much to her chagrin. Then the parking guy asked me for 10,000! I paid 2,000 after escalating the matter to some guy in a tie standing at the door. So tired of this crap. Won't go back there.
[QUOTE=Milkweed]
Girl gave a rough mediocre massage before asking about massaging my "chim". [/QUOTE]
"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word for penis would be "cu".
[QUOTE=Adhome01]"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word to penis would be "cu" is the nice word for penis.[/QUOTE]Had a long running argument about this word and 'chim' means mean both pussy and penis. it depends where the person comes from.
Depends. If she is north Vietnamese then CHIM means penis ;-)
[QUOTE=Adhome01]"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word for penis would be "cu".[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
I was in Vietnam last year (first time) and noticed these 'hot toc' salons around Ben Thanh market so decided to check them out. I've been a couple of times for a massa but I would like to know whether these places offer any additional services, since I wouldn't want to look like a tool.
I will be back when I can grab some time off work and would be interested if these places offer HJ, BBBJCIM or even get her number for FS later on. Or should I be looking elsewhere like bars/clubs/k-bars?
Massage/Sauna place on Ky Dong, District 3. In between Truong Dinh and Le Van Sy.
This is a pretty well known place among locals. Its pretty busy most nights and have lots of girls working there. I went after a drunken night out. All the staff there take care of you really well.
Theres an area to have a feet/herbal massage. This is a proper foot massage! For one hour, I tipped the girl 100K cos I was really really happy with the service (havent had a proper foot massage anywhere in vn before).
You can skip this if you want, just tell the guys you want to go straight up to the rooms.
As I came during peak hour 11-1am, the girl i got was so-so (about 6-7 for looks)
Massage was a 9 - a proper massage.
HJ was an 8.
Ticket for Massage place is 150K.
HJ Tip 150K.
Foot Massage 120K.
Foot Massage Tip 100K.
A lot more than I would normally spend but it was a good few hours of relaxation and with a happy ending.
[QUOTE=Member #2234]Depends. If she is north Vietnamese then CHIM means penis ;-)[/QUOTE]
Aren't you confusing it with Thai? Those two are Thai baby words for penis (จิ๋ม chim) and vagina (จู๋ chu). Grown up equivalents (not too impolite) are hoy หอย and khoy ควย.
I guess there is a small chance Vietnamese baby words are the same, but I doubt it.
No confusion, I speak fluent Viet ;)
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]Aren't you confusing it with Thai? Those two are Thai baby words for penis (จิ๋ม chim) and vagina (จู๋ chu). Grown up equivalents (not too impolite) are hoy หอย and khoy ควย.
I guess there is a small chance Vietnamese baby words are the same, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]
I am here at Ho Chi Minh for 3 days, staying at Sofitel. I initially didn't intend to try VN gals (but realized I can't resist it!) as I am traveling with my step brother who is much younger than I am (obviously I can't bring home to the hotel). So the only way I can have a try is to go to a massage parlor for a HJ (would really want a BJ), or hopefully FS!. But I have no idea where to find/bring them. I've read about JDs post about moto girls near the US consulate but don't have any idea how/where to go after. And yeah I don't speak any Vietnamese.
I will again look at the map and see if there are places near the hotel. Or a place where I am sure to get some action. But if someone can extend some help to a needy fellow it would be awesome! Specific place/instruction would help. I am really having a hard time at the map and pronouncing them to the taxi driver.
Regards,
A
While going around ben thanh market i saw hair salons with pretty ladies in uniforms inside the glass doors. Anything going around these places?
They look too cute to be hair dressers.
[QUOTE=Astig]I am here at Ho Chi Minh for 3 days, staying at Sofitel. I initially didn't intend to try VN gals (but realized I can't resist it!) as I am traveling with my step brother who is much younger than I am (obviously I can't bring home to the hotel). So the only way I can have a try is to go to a massage parlor for a HJ (would really want a BJ), or hopefully FS!. But I have no idea where to find/bring them. I've read about JDs post about moto girls near the US consulate but don't have any idea how/where to go after. And yeah I don't speak any Vietnamese.
I will again look at the map and see if there are places near the hotel. Or a place where I am sure to get some action. But if someone can extend some help to a needy fellow it would be awesome! Specific place/instruction would help. I am really having a hard time at the map and pronouncing them to the taxi driver.
Regards,
A[/QUOTE]
There are cheap GF hotels on Hai Bai Trung - some of them opposite the park. You can probably get a shagging room there for $20 a night or so.
RTF - you will not find FS in the massage joints.
[QUOTE=Astig]While going around ben thanh market i saw hair salons with pretty ladies in uniforms inside the glass doors. Anything going around these places?
They look too cute to be hair dressers.[/QUOTE]
They do massage without extras - but some are amenable to meetings after work.
Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.
There are somethings I want to clarify:
1. Tip is given to the mamasan? I will just have to write the amount on the tip paper the girl gives me then pay the room + tip at the end?
2. Any specific place at NPK?
3. As for this moto-girls, do I ride with her? If the girl is ok 500 will be ok. Then she will bring me to a hotel. As Sudsoz said around HBT. So rate is about 100/hr right?
OK, in HCMC on business with some overseas guests. One of them is regular here so we all booked same hotel. They did a recent renovation that includes nice little pool for laps and updated/brand new massage facility. They charge $15/hr but as guest, it's $8. What the hell, legit place, $8 plus another $5 tip for a one hour massage....go for it.
So after my afternoon swim laps, book one hour. Keep in mind there is a long hallway with massage rooms on each side, all with smoke glass windows and doors that cover the top half of each room, clearly semi-visible inside if you walk by. After about 45 minutes into the massage, young cutie wanders near my crouch, asks me for special - kinda of surprised since we're literally in the open. Politely declined; she felt embarrassed for asking, kept on saying sorry, sorry, sorry?
Second day, same routine, different girl. This one was upfront, less than 15 minutes into the massage, asked about special. I asked is this regular request from customer; she says yes. I ask how much, she says 400-500K....I politely chuckle and decline -- this one seemed upset that i was wasting her time?
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Second day, same routine, different girl. This one was upfront, less than 15 minutes into the massage, asked about special. I asked is this regular request from customer; she says yes. I ask how much, she says 400-500K....I politely chuckle and decline -- this one seemed upset that i was wasting her time?
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)[/QUOTE]It doesn't have to be expensive. If you want a HJ, indicate it to her. HJ is not sex. There is no need to negotiate a price and certainly no reason to ask 'how much'? This is the worst possible question to ask. When your massage is finished, give her the tip you want to give. That's what a tip is. If she complains, ignore her. If you giver her 100k she will ask for 200k, but if you gave her 200k she will ask for 300k or 400k. It doesn't matter, they will always ask for more than you give them. But the deed is done, the hour is over, you are finished so give your tip and go. Tip should not be more than the cost of the massage (in this case about 150k).
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]It doesn't have to be expensive. If you want a HJ, indicate it to her. HJ is not sex. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up on this. The only reason why I even posted was because Astig below happened to be asking where to get a HJ. I totally agree HJ isn't sex - which is why I haven't had one for over 30 years.
[QUOTE=Johndao]There is no need to negotiate a price and certainly no reason to ask 'how much'? This is the worst possible question to ask.[/QUOTE] Really? Thanks for your very educational "tip", it's priceless and you were so fucking nice to share it with us for free!
Btw us, the only reason I asked was to see what she would ask for; I had absolutely no interest in getting one.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Tip should not be more than the cost of the massage (in this case about 150k).
JD[/QUOTE]
I'm such a flaming greenhorn, I gave them each 100K for nothing. I ruined the market for you local experts....sorry about that.
[QUOTE=Astig]Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.[/QUOTE]Will be on business trip for 4 days (first time) in a few weeks.
Can you explain me what/where is DCT / NPK?
[QUOTE=Astig]Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.[/QUOTE]I will be on a business trip to HCM soon (first time) and will be looking for HJ/BJ. I'll be staying in District 1. Can you please explain me what/where is DCT / NPK?
Thanks.
All other tips welcome!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]OK, in HCMC .....
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)[/QUOTE]
Bro,
First of all, the HJ is, in most cases, included in the basic price of the massage and justifies the tip; but .. you cannot blame the girls for trying ... it must work with a few foreigners for sure,
Second, to do it they just put a towel on you and proceed with it, though everyone knows what goes on in there, so it does not matter if the glass door is a see through or not;
Third, ... guys ... having a HJ in Vietnam is like going to a huge buffet with your own sandwich ....
So I tried walking the entire stretch of DCT earlier and as previously posted -it is a little confusing to find the place. While i had an idea where it was I did not brave to find out. It was a mistake to go to DCT on my first crack at these places since it is my first time to visit this places. I should have tried NPK first.
So I walked to NPK and boy it is an awfully hot day! I thought Id have a heat stroke! Anyway I just walked down the street scouting these HTs and getting a feel of them. I braved to enter one and was greeted warmly. so I got the confidence to look at around 4 more. The selection were OK.. many girls to choose from. I finally chose one HT. I am Asian but I do not speak the language so I had a hard time figuring out what the mamasan was saying. She wrote 100. I do not know if it was including tip already. Anyway I just chose a girl, when up, had the pinch massage, groping, fingering, HT and finally BJ. After that the girl was trying to massage me more but it was more of poking so I just motioned her to stop. I got what I came for anyway. When I went down I just handed the mamasan 200. The girl looked happy so I dont know if I overpayed.. it seemed to be the prevailing rate nowadays and since I cant speak the language I couldnt bargain it down.
I got busier than intended so FS will have to wait for another trip. But I doubt I can get it w/o knowing the language.
Thanks all for the FRs.
A
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]Bro,
First of all, the HJ is, in most cases, included in the basic price of the massage and justifies the tip; but .. you cannot blame the girls for trying ... it must work with a few foreigners for sure,
Second, to do it they just put a towel on you and proceed with it, though everyone knows what goes on in there, so it does not matter if the glass door is a see through or not;
Third, ... guys ... having a HJ in Vietnam is like going to a huge buffet with your own sandwich ....[/QUOTE]
LOL....
I guess it's me. When I want a legit massage, visit what I think is a legit MP (I thought this place as legit, my bad!). When I was pussy, I go to where there's at least BJ or ideally FS included.
Arriving at our favorite monger site later today, sorry we're going to miss each other again. :D
My fav place on NPK remain the same as before, except the ticket been raised to 90K. Tips stand at 100K as usual.
It's right after the coffee shop, small narrow corridor about 10m. I never remember the name but you can't miss it.
Also notice a new shop just open 3 doors accross the street called Hong Duc, same set up I guess.
You can have release two loads with extra 30K but tips should be double.
Happy blowing.
This is cute, friendly, young massage girl Quynh up in Tan Binh. Check out those hairy lower legs, this girl has got some hormones going. Hot bod and hot BJ too. ..
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]This is cute, friendly, young massage girl Quynh up in Tan Binh. . ..
JD[/QUOTE]
Hi Bro,
What is the addres of this massage please?
Thanks
I felt horny and dis-occupied, decided to give NPK a try.
I saw three establishments along that street, two on the right, one on the left side, according to traffic direction. I visited both houses on the right side within a large hour's time.
First Hong Duc at Nr 74.
Nice and friendly welcome, joked the girls about whom would do me, chose two and let hem decide who would finally go. A young girl in her early twenties called Hai, proceeded with the usual routine, very nice massage around the legs and the crotch, went to business on the boy; questioned why she would not suck it, she said the house was a fine establishment and did not allow blow jobs. Well, it was a nice and enjoyable massage with a long slow hand job; the lady was nice, a good and friendly body and nice boobs. What the hell, she got the tip for HJ only, 150k, the house ticket was 150k too for the VIP room. Does not have much more comfort than the regular, just 50k dearer.
Then Thanh at Nr 84
Just a few steps away and back into the shop. Same welcoming routine; The line up in my view slightly less attractive; chose one lady, Huong, around her 30s, suitable to my requirements. Went upstairs, was lead into one room, one procedure on-going there already, behind curtains as usual, temperature was too hot for my taste, was lead again to the VIP room. The procedure there went much more diverse with both parties fingers exploring each other in details, blow job was very much available, and well administered. A good and enjoyable session then. Damage 200k for tip and 150k to the house.
Worth coming back and giving a try to the third establishment, the one on the left hand side almost opposite Thanh's Nr 74.
[QUOTE=Rob Doobing]I felt horny and dis-occupied, decided to give NPK a try.
I saw three establishments along that street, two on the right, one on the left side, according to traffic direction. I visited both houses on the right side within a large hour's time.
What the hell, she got the tip for HJ only, 150k, the house ticket was 150k too for the VIP room. Does not have much more comfort than the regular, just 50k dearer.
Then Thanh at Nr 84
A good and enjoyable session then. Damage 200k for tip and 150k to the house.
Worth coming back and giving a try to the third establishment, the one on the left hand side almost opposite Thanh's Nr 74.[/QUOTE]
Great reports Rob, thanks, glad u had a good time. As you may note from reading through the Forum here, numerous reports from myself and others, the total fee is only 200k. It's actually 90k to the house and 100k to the girl. If you apppear not to know this or if you ask, they will take you for more, as that is their nature and it's like picking pockets only with permission.
Just a general report on hot tocs on ung van khiem. They have a lot of small ones on this street. Especially around uvk and duong d1 or d2. I went inside one and didn't have a very good experience there. Just an HJ. The girls in the place that I selected (forgot the name but started with Mai.) weren't that good looking and the service was pretty bad and short. At least the chick had nice tits.
Damage was 150k. I probably overpaid given the quality of service, but not going there again. They do have a lot of them there though. I would suggest others to check it out. Can go up xo viet nghe tinh and turn right. They also have a few cafe oms on the same street some of the girls look cute.
Hope someone finds this brief useful.
These 'Hot Toc' places sound fun but very local - is it possible to visit with no Vietnamese language ability?
Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't very clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
PS: I have a wife and a very tight working schedule so sneaking out at lunch time is the best option for me. I could help you get the best of your time in HCMC.
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Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't very clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
All in all, going in a luxury spa and spend $25 total for BJ and Fuck in a private room plus I can choose the girl myself is the best choice for sure.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, pm me on the forum.
PS: I have a wife and a very tight working schedule so sneaking out at lunch time is the best option for me. I could help you get the best of your time in HCMC.
[QUOTE=Stars Boo]Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience...[/QUOTE]
Yo yo 'sup bruh? Thanks for the triple posting. Jus one question: I know about the [i]"$25 total for BJ and Fuck in a private room plus I can choose the girl myself"[/i] bit but [b][i]'luxury spa'[/b][/i]?? That's pushing it, aint it? Either that or its a very well kept secret? :D
[QUOTE=Stars Boo]Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
[/QUOTE]
You have pretty much already told us what we already know. A lot of generalizations and nothing exact.
How about some reports of MP's that you duck off to.
Any reports will be welcome.
Sry I was confused for the 1st time posting, apparently there was some laggy issues so triple posts.
I could understand "luxury spa" you meant expensive hotels like park hyatt, sheraton, kumho continental etc. I have been to some of them and they are indeed luxury. But they don't even have HJ let alone BJ or F because they can't risk losing their operating license and the country reputation in an area swarming with high position businessmen. And even without "extra" services, they still got tons of cash from clueless come and go customers anyway so why bother.
I am not talking about Hottocs where a customer pays 10 bucks for BJ and still thinks it is overpriced. It is not since the local ppls pay the same or even more than that because he wants to impress the girl.
For 1 example. Go to Su V? And H? Nh street in district 10 and have a look for yourself. There are many salons there at the same luxury level as those in district 1 with extra services. Just by looking at the young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors you would know right away what I meant by calling NPK, DBL, DCT cheap. Tickets alone would be $10-$15 for 2 hours depended on medium or large rooms, enough to prevent low class customers but not much at all to the well doers. I have private bathroom inside the room with hot shower, a nice warm massage bed and I got to choose from more than 20 girls available. I would take a bath 1st, wrap myself in a thick furry towel, lie down on the massage bed. The girl would give me a massage and with the mood we could both strip off all our covers for "further services". Now isn't that something you call luxury. It is human service so don't be cheap, $15-20 tip is the norm here and if you feel the service is adequate or you want to impress her or take her out later after work, $30-40-50 is nothing out of ordinary. I do it all the times. Of course, you could tip $5 no problem, no questions asked, the tip is up to the customer, but I would advise against it if you want to have the same nice service for the next time.
Another example would be Korean town in Tan Binh near the airport, their spas are amazingly well-managed. A well lit, luxury look reception areas and the girls wearing GEISHA outfit . They only welcome foreigners and most of the customers are Korean, Japanese. Even the most experienced Vietnamese players can't enter the places. Luckily, I have a foreign passport =).
Who say Vietnam is boring compared to Thailand? Think again I am proud that Vietnamese ladies are one of the most beautiful creatures in Asia. Thanks God I am living here.
[QUOTE=Stars Boo] They only welcome foreigners and most of the customers are Korean, Japanese.[/QUOTE]
And the occasional Aussie and sometimes Pom (you know who you are) :P
Su Van Hanh**, it seems the forum doesnt have the font.
[QUOTE=Stars Boo]S
For 1 example. Go to Su V? And H? Nh street in district 10 and have a look for yourself. .[/QUOTE]Can some one clarify these streets?
[QUOTE=Stars Boo]Su Van Hanh**, it seems the forum doesnt have the font.[/QUOTE]
Su Van Hanh Q10 is door-to-door no-tell hotels. Where would you find the "[i]young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors[/i]", pray tell?
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Su Van Hanh Q10 is door-to-door no-tell hotels. Where would you find the "[I]young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors[/I]", pray tell?[/QUOTE]I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.
[QUOTE=Stars Boo] I have private bathroom inside the room with hot shower, a nice warm massage bed and I got to choose from more than 20 girls available. I would take a bath 1st, wrap myself in a thick furry towel, lie down on the massage bed. The girl would give me a massage and with the mood we could both strip off all our covers for "further services".[/QUOTE]What is the name of this place? Never been to one in SVH with private bathroom en-suite.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. Had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.[/QUOTE]Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
Toddtworip
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
Toddtworip[/QUOTE]Yes. you can't miss them. but there's no extras at these places. You can get phone numbers and take the girls out after work but I reckon the girls are high maintenance.
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
Toddtworip[/QUOTE]
Yes, you will find places for hair wash, cut, ear cleaning, full body, fully clothed massage in common room, etc. The girls may be very very pretty. There is no sex nor anything even like sex in these places. And as anywhere in Vietnam you meet women, you can ask for their phone numbers and offer to take them out. Nothing special about asking these women vs asking any others. But they usually are the types that don't want to waste time where they are not earning. Better luck with the pretty ladies selling makeup and jewelry on the first floor of most 'high-end' shopping malls.
JD
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.[/QUOTE]My In-laws live off SVH across from Trường Đại học Ngoại ngữ - Tin học. I've walked SVH all the way up to Hung Vuong and spotted several places along the way. I especially enjoy walking past Lý Thái Tổ and going over to the little park on Ba Hat where it joins Ngô Gia Tự. Always find at least 3-4 motogirls very cute that stop and ask me if I want anything. An Dong market is a hangout for me too, but too close to home and my wife knows too many girls selling there. I just go to talk to friends and buy stuff. I was trying to remember the name of the massage place my brother-in-law tooke me to on Lê Văn Sỹ, the girls were very pretty and you got shower, steam room and massage for 100K, tip for the girl was 100K too for HE. They will try to ask for 200K but just stand firm with them. I imagine they are available for take out if you get their number, but I didn't have time for that.
My wife is going to HCMC in October and staying until March. I'll be there just before Tet and coming back with her then. Hopefully I'll have some time to do some mongering while I'm there and maybe even meet some of you guys there too.
I went to the An Chi 2 hot toc off of SVH. It's down the alley at the beef steak place. The rooms are great. They have a full bed and bathroom. The girls are so so. I found one cute one. She was a little chubby, but looked sexy.
Service provided was hj/bj with bra and undies pulled down. Service was poor. And came with a lot of negotiating and complaining.
Tip was (after a very very hard negotiation) 200,000. Ticket was 200,000 for one hour in the room.
I think NPK is a much better value and experience. I wouldn't mind paying more if i got more, but all i got was a lot of hassle. At NPK things are very smooth for me and the cost is 1/2 what I paid at SVH.
On a side note, the girl at SVH complained that i took too long. She said VN guys "release" quickly. I do take a while, but why rush it? VN men can take 2 hours to drink a tiny amount of coffee. They savor it and enjoy it. So I don't know why they don't do the same at the hot toc. Especially if you're paying 200,000 for one hour.
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.
[QUOTE=Doodie1]Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.[/QUOTE]110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?[/QUOTE]Quan Ben Thanh.
I think - it's the name of the district.
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?[/QUOTE]
District Binh Thanh
Yes, sorry.
District (Quan) Binh Thanh, Ward (Phuong) 17, to be exact. Just over the bridge from D1. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Amp Bum]Quan Ben Thanh.
I think - it's the name of the district.[/QUOTE]
Ben Thanh is the market. Binh Thanh is the District.
[QUOTE=Doodie1]Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.[/QUOTE]
Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JD
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Ben Thanh is the market. Binh Thanh is the District.[/QUOTE]My fault.
Thanks for clarification.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JD[/QUOTE]Yes sir! I just wanted to update the address and save the others some time in digging through all the post.
Take care!
[QUOTE=Doodie1]Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.[/QUOTE]
Went today. I think the women weren't amazing looking. And my girl was a little older and thinner than I like. I see better looking ones at my regular hot toc on NPK. But...the service was excellent. This girl knows how to bbbj. And yeah, like you said, it's an easy no-hassle experience. Thanks for the tip. I'll go back.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JD[/QUOTE]Hi,
I've been a lurker for quite some time but I don't recall seeing this particular topic covered for hot tocs, but I was wondering a couple of things. I'd appreciate it if anyone could provide their personal take on the matter.
1) Is it generally "ok" to ask for a particular girl? If not, is there a steadfast method to make that distinction if you can or can't?
With massage type places I have no qualms about asking for a different girl or a better masseuse if the service isn't very good. It's the whole 'hot toc' thing I'm not familiar with at all.
2) What's the 'standard' duration you can stay at these places while being, how shall we say, "serviced"?
It's happened to me before where I errantly think of some horrible image like my sister- total buzz kill to say the least. I sometimes wind up having to extend the session which is fine, but it's frustrating when they say you've run out of time when you actually haven't.
Also, thanks to everyone for the tips/contributions. It's reassuring to know what the standard market prices are for services x, y, and z. This forum has been quite enlightening. I'm already finding it tedious dealing with the Vietnamese people when it comes to pricing. I worry more about getting overcharged than having someone actually steal my wallet. The whole phenomenon with overtipping or tipping in general really does sour things when taken into perspective.
[QUOTE=Original Mint]Hi,
I've been a lurker for quite some time but I don't recall seeing this particular topic covered for hot tocs, but I was wondering a couple of things.[/QUOTE]April 2009, with map
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=875756#post875756[/url]
To answer one of your questions: It is perfectly normal to choose whichever girl girl you want at a Hot Toc and just smile and ignore the one they push on you if you don't want her. Don't think twice about it, nothing to be shy about, totally standard for customer to choose.
JD
In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"
1. I can not find any information on a Minh Tanh Hotel on the internet or hotel sites. Does this hotel still exist and is this the correct spelling? or was there a name change?
2. The report stated that it is "Near War Museum"
Well if they are talking about the popular War Remnants Museum is it:
the street across MGM? and what does MGM stand for?
Thanks !
Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"
1. I can not find any information on a Minh Tanh Hotel on the internet or hotel sites. Does this hotel still exist and is this the correct spelling? or was there a name change?
2. The report stated that it is "Near War Museum"
Well if they are talking about the popular War Remnants Museum is it:
the street across MGM? and what does MGM stand for?
Thanks ![/QUOTE]Hello Todd,
I think you are referring to one of my old posts.
Its been long 2 yrs since I was in HCMC but still remember the place fondly.
After 2 yrs I dont remember the places exactly. But I am sure the following will lead you to Minh Tan Hotel.
Take a taxi from anywhere in District 1. Tell him go to MGM. Its a disco place. Cross the road from MGM and walk 10 meters right and u will enter a street. Walk about 2 min. You will find Minh Tan on your left side of the street.
Hope they are still the same. Good luck.
I
So, I'm in HCMC for a few days and I want to try some of the local "goods" :)
I'm new to SEA and I'm really unsure how all this stuff is handled.
From what I read I understand that there are either bars where you can pick up girls and take them to a hotel or "massage" places where you can get hj/bjs. Right?
I think I will stick to the second for now. Are there any good places of that type near district 1 where I at least know my way a little bit?
Is the place on 90 (110?) dien bien phu still active/suitable for newcomers who dont speak a work of vietnamese?
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"[/QUOTE]Maybe Minh Tam hotel on Le Quy Don Street. check a map.
[QUOTE=FoxySimone]Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun[/QUOTE]
Tour69 had a number of profiles advertising their services at tagged. I think they all got shutdown.
If you are in town for 24 hrs or so with no time for homework then they might be worth considering. Otherwise there are too many other options.
Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.
Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.
[QUOTE=Matty1]Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.[/QUOTE]The price normally 500-600 in total.
I think matty1 was also tipping the toad for that price
Who is the toad ?
I went to the place by moto-taxi.
The whole day was 800k! sorry.
Do you know if there is soapy massage place or service in town?
[QUOTE=FoxySimone]Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun[/QUOTE]
Um, Google searches for what?
The guy doing that is a total nut. And anything available from him is available by reading the forum, in which case you don't have to pay for him. (just saw one guy who used him pay double at a massage place that most here know about) Also don't need to worry about him snapping your photo and displaying it on his website, a favorite trick of his. That's the one thing I've heard people angry about -- he doesn't ask, just does it. Guys and girls both. If you are after something specific, better to just ask here and members will point you toward it. For free. And with no risk. I've seen these self-made pros on the net and forums -- they end up in prison. This guy is flying on one wing at this point.
The other thing he's made people angry about are abusive PM's and also making up fake members to spam forums like this one -- then taking over with 20 or so different "members" talking to each other and pointing to him as their sage expert guru. Kind of sickening. Ruins the whole forum when he does that. And he does it until moderators finally put a stop to it and go delete all his accounts and posts.
Yeah I'd say he's somewhere in between a sociopath and psychopath, not qualified to say where on the spectrum exactly tho. Bad news either way. Avoid.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]The price normally 500-600 in total.[/QUOTE]That's the price I get for Tulip's as well - 100k for the house and tip (dont be a schmuck if the service is good) is around 500k. I've tipped less when the service has been less than stellar, but when it's good, this is the typical amount.
There's also a similar setup, literally across the street that just opened a little over 7 months ago? I went on a sunday evening when often times, the manager/mama's are off. It was very much a "when the cat's away, the mice will play" type deal. Not a good experience. They tried to jerk me around on the pricing but the topper was the girl i had picked, literally stopped after 9 minutes of foreplay and 3 minutes of BJ.
(translated from vietnamese)
her: "Oh, Im tired, I just got back from Nha Trang and my stomach hurts. Let me call another girl for you"
me: "Is it gonna cost me more for another girl?"
her: "Yes, you tip me and her"
me: "how do you say your name again? so I can speak with the manager when she gets back"
It didn't end well with her getting nothing, me getting nothing, and the house getting 100k. I haven't gone back since.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]Maybe Minh Tam hotel on Le Quy Don Street. check a map.[/QUOTE]Thanks!. After some additional research / comparing information, I do believe this is the hotel that was suggested.
I will be sure to check it out and provide a report in a couple of months.
If someone else gets a change to visit this place prior, let us know how it turns out!
[QUOTE=Newbie From Vza]Hello Todd,
I think you are referring to one of my old posts.
Its been long 2 yrs since I was in HCMC but still remember the place fondly.
After 2 yrs I dont remember the places exactly. But I am sure the following will lead you to Minh Tan Hotel.
Take a taxi from anywhere in District 1. Tell him go to MGM. Its a disco place. Cross the road from MGM and walk 10 meters right and u will enter a street. Walk about 2 min. You will find Minh Tan on your left side of the street.
Hope they are still the same. Good luck.
I[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy.
I will check it out early on my trip in a couple of months and provide an "analysis". Hopefully it will be a pleasant TR
[QUOTE=Toddtworip]Thanks buddy.
I will check it out early on my trip in a couple of months and provide an "analysis". Hopefully it will be a pleasant TR[/QUOTE]
FYI - MGM closed down about a year ago. That place is now a seafood restaurant called "Marina Ngoc Suong." If you're taking a taxi, just tell them to drop you off at the corner of Nguyen Dinh Chieu and Le Quy Don.
So it's been a long time since I've been down to the DBP HT's. I moved and got a promotion with work, so now I am traveling a lot more and just don't have the time for that drive anymore. I went there during the afternoon, and drove up and down DBP to see what places were still there and what was new. I could only see Benny's which was surprising. There use to be like 3 or 4 all on one side of DBP. Maybe others don't open til later in the day? Not sure.
Anyways. My report on Benny's. It is new, and has a large facility. A MUCH improved upgrade from most of the old HTs on that street. I remember the layout of this building from before the upgrade and I have to say they did a great job of using the space they have. As stated before. Please just walk-in, pay the house fee and only leave 100k for the girl as tip. You can either give it to the girl or the front desk, either way the girl gets it. I didn't have any problems. Everything is air-conditioned, tons of girls there waiting to serve, clean and fresh looking (because its new...lets see how it is in a year or so). On average, the girls are pretty good. Of course there are a few that are less desirable, but you can always refuse and ask for someone else.
My girl cleaned me up, licked all over the body (all over), allowed me roam all over her body, including the arse. She had great tits, a pierced nose, nice ass and excellent skills. She also took her time, unlike the usual rush I use to experience. After everything was finished, she never asked for a tip nothing like that, but I had it all ready for her and sent 100k her way. She thanked me for the tip with a smile and there was nothing else to it.
I forgot about this road but glad to revisit.
Hey Johndao, are you still looking for a place where girls give you a bath?
It's been about 3 years since I've gone there but it might be worth it. It's a little(doubt more than 3 stars)Hotel connected to a restaurant type of joint over in I think is District 5?. It's right around the corner from the famous moto girls area at the Nquyen Chi Thanh & Nqyuen Chi Phuong intersection.
So if your traveling down NCT towards Cholon(away from District 1) you make a right at the roundabout onto NCP, look for the first Hotel on the right side of the street on NCP few meters down.
Go to the massage lobby upstairs. They have private massage rooms with full bathtub. The girls bath you and gives you a massage. I only went once and can't remember about any extra service. Quite clean and comfortable environment though.
There is a report about massage with a bath here.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=760895&postcount=33[/url]
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]So it's been a long time since I've been down to the DBP HT's. I moved and got a promotion with work, so now I am traveling a lot more and just don't have the time for that drive anymore. I went there during the afternoon, and drove up and down DBP to see what places were still there and what was new. I could only see Benny's which was surprising. There use to be like 3 or 4 all on one side of DBP. [/QUOTE]
Whats the address of this Benny's?
I drove down DBP a couple weeks ago and it looked like the HT's I remember being there were still there. This stretch had a ton of them back in 2003-4, actually on both sides of DBP, but it went down to just 4 (that I'm aware of) since then.
You mentioned they made great use of the space. How so ?
You mentioned there were a ton of girls.. How many? Of what calibre?
thx
Fucking christ, its like banging your head against a brick wall with you blokes.
I have already posted all the details, but some may think that 200k is too expensive.
[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] , I have found an el dorado.
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Girls are great, prices cheap but not cheap enough!
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[QUOTE=Westernbacon]Hey Johndao, are you still looking for a place where girls give you a bath?
It's been about 3 years since I've gone there but it might be worth it. It's a little(doubt more than 3 stars)Hotel connected to a restaurant type of joint over in I think is District 5?. It's right around the corner from the famous moto girls area at the Nquyen Chi Thanh & Nqyuen Chi Phuong intersection.
So if your traveling down NCT towards Cholon(away from District 1) you make a right at the roundabout onto NCP, look for the first Hotel on the right side of the street on NCP few meters down.
Go to the massage lobby upstairs. They have private massage rooms with full bathtub. The girls bath you and gives you a massage. I only went once and can't remember about any extra service. Quite clean and comfortable environment though.[/QUOTE]Not sure if anyone is looking for that or not, but the Metropole Hotel has a massage center and they offer (for an additional fee) to upgrade to the VIP room which has a bathtub inside of it. I use to have business meetings at the hotel a few years ago and used to do the massage there every now and then cuz there were a few girls there who gave a real good legit massage. Anyways, in the VIP rooms, the girls do bathe you from head to toe. Its hit and miss though as far as services, mostly just HJ with an occasional BJ offered, however, I remember the prices being high. But it is a tourist spot near, PNL area.
I have not been there for a while, so I am not sure what their operations are like today, but it could be worth checking out if someone is interested. Its definitely not a cheap Blow-n-go type of place though.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]Fucking christ, its like banging your head against a brick wall with you blokes.
I have already posted all the details, but some may think that 200k is too expensive.
[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] , I have found an el dorado.
[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Girls are great, prices cheap but not cheap enough!
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited to redact sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Yes, you did make a report, I was just confirming what you have previously stated. Some people like to know more that more than 1 person has had the same experience (I, myself, is included in that). If you look back, you will see I too have made contributions to these nice little bng's in the Binh Thanh area, but that was like maybe a year or more ago. I wanted to make an observation as to how things have changed, for those who haven't been in a while (like myself). I was pleasantly surprised!
Wendella - Not sure what part of DBP you are referring too, but when I went down there was only one that I could see a sign for. Maybe I'm becoming blind. Either way, its a big sign and you really can't miss it if you are on the right side of the street.
They use good usage of space, becuase they have a lot of room for customers, yet they make it feel like things are very spacious, instead of the old "cramped like sardines" feeling I use to have.
The girls are good. There are some real hotties, and there are a few not so good. But why my experience, those girls who are lacking the baggin beauty, have GREAT skills to make up for it. Either way, you are never let unsatisfied. There is a good amount of girls there. Id say any where from 15-25 girls. Its a big place and there are always some girls with someone, and others, waiting for their turn.
I've been to the legit massage places on Le Anh Xuan and nearby. 1 hr massage is 80k and if the girl is good and doesn't rush, lets me explore alittle and I mean alittle cuz you can't do much in these places, then I may give her a tip equal to the ticket. The one on the right is getting very greedy, almost demanding a tip. The one on left, DuyenII I believe is much nicer and the girls appreciatively wait at the desk for a tip and do not demand anything. Good service deserves good tip, the amount is up to you.
Hi guys,
I'm spending a couple of days in VN on my way to Thailand. First day here, did some tourist shit then jumped in a taxi to Ben Ny. I had written the address down, the guy seemed to know it. Just across the bridge, about 3 or 4 hundred meters past the bridge on the right hand side heading away from the city. There is a sign on the street, you can't miss it.
So I walk in and there is a receptionist with the girls all milling around in the background, all pretty nice, a few cuties. I wouldn't have knocked any of them back. The receptionist didn't seem very friendly. I smiled said I wanted to get my hair washed and gave her a wink, but she just shook her head. Here we go, I thought, she's going to knock me back because I'm a foreigner. One of the girls, named Haa, came over and said 'no hair wash here, only massage and blowjob'. Ok then, even better! 100k to the house and Haa took me out the back to a row of dentists chairs. I lay down and she gave me a fault average massage for 10 min, with a little nipple rubbing, then she told me to get up and follow her into a little cubicle with a massage table. She pulled my tshirt up and shorts down, started with some nipple licking and then onto the BBBJ. She pulled he panties down and her dress up, I was playing with her pussy but with her panties still around her knees it was hard to get really good access. I guess all the gear is kept on but pulled down in case the cops come in and they need to tidy up in a hurry. Anyway, pretty good BJ, not quite deep enough for my liking, a bit too much hand and not enough throat. But she was really working it, like she was trying to get me off asap. She stopped after about 5 min and asked me if I was ok, like she was surprised I hadn't finished yet. Another 5 min or so later I blew a massive CIM, she took it all like a champ, but I could tell she was a bit shocked. I haven't blown that hard in a long time, I was very impressed. I know the board members her advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).
Anyway, for about Australian $20, I was very happy, will prob come back when I get back from Nha Trang.
Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
Unfortunately, I never been to this place before. Thank you very much.
Went down to DBP tonight a little past 10pm and checked out all the HT shops that were still open. I tried looking for Benny's at the 110 address but gates were closed already. I stopped at 3 shops to take a look at all the girls, and I finally settled for the last shop on that strip. They had about 12 girls to choose from. I chose 2 girls.
One was really cute (23 years old) and the other was "bin thuong" (decent) but had nice breast (large b cups), but had kinda bad facial skin but hey it was closing time. Both had skills with great sound effects but kept bitching at me to stop pushing there heads deeper. Had the prettier one blow me and the less attractive one suck my balls. The prettier one kept pulling my hand out when I was fingering her. Only had 2 fingers up in there, but of course I kept finger fucking her anyway. However no deep throating or gags with these 2 girls. As I'm pushing one of the girl's head deeper in me the OTHER girl would push my hand away. As if they were tag teaming together. Anyways the service felt rushed but hard to say, I was the last customer and it was closing time.
I tipped each girl 100k, they complained and asked for 200K, I ignored them and walked down stairs and payed mamason 170k. Probably could of paid mamason less but I had no change on me. She said thank you and they closed the entrance gates on me and I'm off.
So total damage is 370k for 2 girls for suck and blow. Looking forward to Benny's. Never been there yet.
[QUOTE=Firefox970]Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
Unfortunately, I never been to this place before. Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]
You're asking in the worng thread. Look in the "Other Areas" section. There you'll find plenty of info about what you're wanting.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1043[/url]
Have a look on craig list under erotic section. there was a new posting a few days ago regarding escorts in Nha Trang. Anyone up that way tried them out?
[QUOTE=Firefox970]Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wee Fella]I know the board members her advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).[/QUOTE]In the future, please refrain from giving that extra tip. The girls will soon start to believe that all the foreigners should be giving 200k instead of 100k, which will rates the rates again. Especially when it sounds like your girl was trying to rush things and complained about the length of time.
[QUOTE=Wee Fella]Hi guys,
I know the board members here advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).
Anyway, for about Australian $20, I was very happy, will prob come back when I get back from Nha Trang.[/QUOTE]Fellas, stop ruining the local market for us all.
Ok you had a Great Fantastic Blowjob it's totally worth the $20 bucks because no way could you get that back home.. But you're not home, you're in Vietnam where a person with a decent office job supports their family with a 2.5 million monthly salary, that's like $130 usd a month working 6 days a week, 8 hour days. Were talking about $5 bucks a day= 100k dong. There are many of us who live and work here and don't need to spend money like a tourist always thinking they got a good deal cause it's cheaper than back home. Please spend wisely and keep your extra 100k.
So I went to a very popular hand job place on Su Van Hanh. Asked for number 19. I did my thing and went up stairs. Was told by a guy that she is eating and shell be right in. 20 minutes went by and I told the guy to send someone else in. He said she is done and I said forget it and to send some one else. He looks at me funny. I go back to my room.
So in comes 33, not pretty but not ugly. No assets worth mentioning. She gave a good hard massage and teasing so I liked her. I would repeat.
Gave her 150k but next time I'll give 100k. 80k to the house. They have a very good nice and hot suana. Others usually not hot enough for me even if I sit in there for a while for it to build up.
He tipped extra and gave the reasons why. To me these are valid reasons.
He got a better than expected BJ
He also experienced some difficulties in getting serviced due to him having tatt's (I've got a couple myself and get stared at constantly by all sorts of people) and a rough looking head (I think he means the big one)
Nothing wrong with giving a extra tip for better than expected service.
As for ruining the market how often will you visit the same shop, see the same girl? Chances are not very likely.
Here's a example.
I go to a normal legitimate MP sometimes more than once a week. I've been going there for over 1yr now.
I always get greeted with a smile, couple of handshakes from the attendants and hugs from the MP girls. I also have never tipped the attendants and still get warmly treated.
The staff know I prefer a particular girl.
Sometimes she's busy with a client but they still take me upstairs and let me sleep/wait in the booth.
I have always tipped her 100k. Normal tips are 50k. House is 50k.
Previous girls in the MP I've tipped 50k until I got the best massage in Saigon from this particular girl.
Have I ruined the market by giving a tip thats double what the going rate is for that establishment?
No I havn't. How many tourists, expats visit this MP? None that I've seen in my visits and from what I've gathered from the attendants and girls.
For that 1hr and sometimes 2hr (200k tip/100k ticket) sessions that often run over the time she works very hard as she knows I like a strong massage. None of this light tickling for me. I've stopped going to other MP's now as they don't fill the need I'm looking for.
Considering I'm 100kg's and the average punter to that MP is about 50kg, 55kg's dripping wet I don't mind tipping double as there's twice as much to massage, Providing the service is more than what I usually get. I've been to other MP's where I've tipped the going local rate, I even gave a ZERO tip to one girl due to her constant harassment for "massa baby how much?" and very poor massage skills.
We all have our reasons for tipping. Personally I tip extra if I get a better than expected result.
[QUOTE=Westernbacon]Fellas, stop ruining the local market for us all.
Ok you had a Great Fantastic Blowjob it's totally worth the $20 bucks because no way could you get that back home.. But you're not home, you're in Vietnam where a person with a decent office job supports their family with a 2.5 million monthly salary, that's like $130 usd a month working 6 days a week, 8 hour days. Were talking about $5 bucks a day= 100k dong. There are many of us who live and work here and don't need to spend money like a tourist always thinking they got a good deal cause it's cheaper than back home. Please spend wisely and keep your extra 100k.[/QUOTE]
Hi all!
Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl & DBP areas as far as BJ & FS goes. I live in Tan Phu district near the Damsen Waterpark. I have gotten BJ from some MP in this area, however it's a hit miss type of deal(more miss than hits). And these places are full of negotiating $ while your dick is in their hand, something I just don't enjoy dealing with anymore nor have the time.
I enjoy the type of service like at FS brothels near the SuperBowl on Dong Nai St. and the DBP BJ HTs where you walk in choose a gal and the price is fixed. No time wasted, no waiting for the girl to get off work as some coffee shops I frequent. The drive down to these areas are way far for me.
Anyone know of FS or BJ shops near the surrounding Damsen Waterpark area? and or Cholon district?
Thanks for looking!
[QUOTE=Westernbacon]
Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl[/QUOTE]
This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.[/QUOTE]Mik,
What type of services are we talking about upstairs? FS?
Any FS or BJ near Damsen? The Superbowl distance is like going to downtown LA back in the states for me.
Curious, you are viet keu? from what part of the world?
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.[/QUOTE]The MP is no longer there. They turned the MP waiting room into a theater for live performances along with about 50 seats. I was there for some type of Vietnamese show a few months ago.
The upstairs MP is on the right hand side as you go upstairs. (From the carpark entry under the big "dome"
The Theater is more of less directly in front of the staircase
To the left is a childrens playground across is the amusement arcade and further along the bowling lanes. The childrens playground is a new addition.
I live opposite the superbowl. I usually go there every couple days to visit the supermarket, bakery and resturants.
There is a new steakhouse type resturant opening soon. There is a old style train carriage getting made up inside. Santa Fe or something keeps kicking around in my head.
That upstairs MP is catering mainly to the Korean/Jap market.
Large steam room, sauna and multiple spa's and couple row of massage rooms. Very nicely renovated.
See my report on the MP earlier.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]The MP is no longer there. They turned the MP waiting room into a theater for live performances along with about 50 seats. I was there for some type of Vietnamese show a few months ago.[/QUOTE]
Westernbacon. I'm from Australia. Aussie/Korean/Jap/Pom.
There is no FS in the above mentioned MP, Just the normal HJ and possible BJ if the girls are not scared.
For entertainment near Damsen, Mutant Chicken has had a few reports. Have a read back and see if any of them tickle your fancy.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]The upstairs MP is on the right hand side as you go upstairs. (From the carpark entry under the big "dome"
The Theater is more of less directly in front of the staircase
To the left is a childrens playground across is the amusement arcade and further along the bowling lanes. The childrens playground is a new addition. [/QUOTE]
I stand corrected. I thought that was all one and the same, as far as entrances goes. I will have to check it out next time I'm headed for the airport.
The last time I was there, I had a strange experience (~2 years ago). I was given a beautiful young girl for a massage, and I was quiet happy. She was really good looking and her massage was great! When I flipped over I asked if she offered BJ and she said no and I asked about HJ and she said no, but asked if that's what I wanted. I said yes, so she excused herself, and I thought she was getting some towels or something but when she returned she brought another older, definitely not as good looking lady, and said she will finish the massage.
Has anyone else had this experience before, anywhere?
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]The last time I was there, I had a strange experience (~2 years ago). I was given a beautiful young girl for a massage, and I was quiet happy. She was really good looking and her massage was great! When I flipped over I asked if she offered BJ and she said no and I asked about HJ and she said no, but asked if that's what I wanted. I said yes, so she excused herself, and I thought she was getting some towels or something but when she returned she brought another older, definitely not as good looking lady, and said she will finish the massage.
Has anyone else had this experience before, anywhere?[/QUOTE]
I can't comment about that place, but the experience is known. Sometimes the girls don't want to do it - either at all, or for a particular person - but they know one of the others will, and give them the opportunity. I don't think however, that this one older woman does the finishing work for everyone there.... :)
84 NPK just got raid as I passed this afternoon. I guess it's due to the National Day coming up, also heard of the same up in Hanoi.
[QUOTE=Kodanana]84 NPK just got raid as I passed this afternoon. I guess it's due to the National Day coming up, also heard of the same up in Hanoi.[/QUOTE]
I drove by there yesterday on my way to a meeting and noticed all the shops with a bunch of guys standing out front trying to call me in. I don't remember that from before? Is that new or old news?
Can you give me an address or around what area this place is found? I am staying in district 1 on HBT area.
[QUOTE=Doodie1]Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.[/QUOTE]
Well guys, I am back in Vietnam again. This time around, I brought a friend with me, a guy who was a USA Marine here back during the war and hasnt been in Vietnam for 42 years. To be totally honest, now, I know what I must have looked like 9 years ago when I came back here for the first time since the war. LOL I got off just watching him experiencing sounds, sights, smells, and remembering.
Anyway, I decided enough of that shit, and told him he was in for a treat, as we were in a taxi heading to NPK. He asked me what that treat was, and I told him to just shut up, keep his senses on high-alert and just do what I said to do. This guy is no dummy, as evidenced by the fact that he walked in, grabbed the cutest gal in the place in about one second, and took his ass off upstairs like he was shot out of a Cannon.
I dunno what the hell he did to his gal, but he had her moaning, groaning and seemingly getting off more than once. Matter of fact, me and my gal could hardly keep a straight face, and were forced to stop our action several times to snicker and just outright belly laugh at the shenanigans of those two! That was fun! Ha ha
After it was all over, as we walked out of the door heading for a taxi and something to drink, that son-of-a-***** was kissing on me and telling me what a great "fucking friend" I am. LOL I told him to thank JohnDao, Milkweed, Sudsoz, and all the friends in this forum. Well, when he started pressing me about "what forum? " I started to laugh like hell, and the taxi driver was looking at me like I was Dien Cai Dau. LOL I muttered under my breath something about Jackson is going to love me, and when he asked me "who is Jackson? " I lost it again!
Guys, all I can say is, now I know what we all must look like when in heat, and mongering to beat hell! God, I love it so!
H is out
P.S. Number 84 is open there, also. I dunno about a raid, but it was open yesterday, because as we got out of the taxi in front of #84, two Viet guys came out and one asked me "#84? #82? " I told him "tam muoi hia" and headed inside.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]...
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner...
...For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.
AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).
Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.
AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).
Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.[/QUOTE]
Good report Raverboy. Price is high, I am curious, anyone get this service for a more normal price of say, 100k to the house and 100k to the girl? Raver, anything better at these places than at DBP, NPK places where it's 200k complete? If so, then I'll check it out.
If the room is like a hotel as you said, is FS available? PM me if you like.
Thanks,
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Good report Raverboy. Price is high, I am curious, anyone get this service for a more normal price of say, 100k to the house and 100k to the girl? Raver, anything better at these places than at DBP, NPK places where it's 200k complete? If so, then I'll check it out.
If the room is like a hotel as you said, is FS available? PM me if you like.
Thanks,
JD[/QUOTE]
Can't compare with DBP. Here you are in a typical single massage table room with a door with a half-pane of (mostly) frosted glass + use of the sauna and a shower.
At DBP you're in a curtained-off space with 3 or 4 recliners next to each other right? No showers, no nothing. So if you're fine with literally just a blow and go, DBL and DBP are probably the cheapest, for VND 200.000 total. Unless of course you hit a ca phe om, but it will be even less comfortable. ;)
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.
AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).
Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.[/QUOTE]First of all thanks for the reports on HCMC. It gave a good overview on where to go and not wasting too much time. Although it was difficult to figure out your abbreviations of streets. Better keep the long name, it`s only two words more.
However, I have been to two places in HCMC on my short trip here and must say to be very disappointed:
Anh Chi 2 on Su Van Hanh Street was a standard boring BJ (no CIM) for incredible 500k plus 150k to the house. I tried it with the advertised 200k, but there wasn`t a chance of even reducing it to 400k. The option would have been to leave.
Unfortunately I wanted it quite badly, so this was not an option..
Damage in total 650k VND
Then I tried to place at the Superbowl Center, 1st floor next from the cinema. Here they didn´t even gave a BJ, only HJ. Requested Tip was 400K VND, no chance of negotiation either.
So, maybe I only had bad luck or my bargaining skills are negligible, but it definitely was my last try in Vietnam.
Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser] Although it was difficult to figure out your abbreviations of streets. Better keep the long name, it`s only two words more.[/QUOTE]
There is a abbreviation link at the top. Click it and scroll to Vietnam. You will see all the street names abbreviated with their full names. So many people keep asking about the street names but never bother to click it when its so obvious (well it was to me anyway)
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser] However, I have been to two places in HCMC on my short trip here and must say to be very disappointed:
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You formed this opinion after visiting only 2?
Not all MP's offer BJ, HJ, FS. Some are legitimate ones, others offer HJ's, some offer HJ,BJ. There are even some MP's that offer FS.
If you wanted a BJ ending there are plenty of other reports of MP's. Son Tra Hotel for example. Look back a few more pages and you will see.
If you just want a BJ then go to a BnG (Blow n Go) There are plenty of reports on them. 100k ticket and 100k tip. You also get some sort of massage too.
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser]Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.[/QUOTE]
That's the problem, People keep comparing VN to TLD.
I did the same when I first arrived. Once you work out that not everything is what it seems you will have some fun behind closed doors.
If the girl isn't lowering her price then simply refuse to have whatever it is you wanted instead of giving in and then complaining about it.
The superbowl upstairs MP is catering to Korean, Jap expats. Lots of them live in Tan Binh. Its actually a very nicely renovated MP, compared to some catering for local vn men.
Paying 600k VND / 950baht for 1hr FS with a SYT (sweet young thing) including a room with AC, shower, toilet, towels, rubber etc provided is overpriced then I'd like to see where you can get the same deal in TLD. Unless you like Patts 500b beach rd specials..
Give a couple more MP's a try, then make your mind up. Just remember this is VN, things are done very differently compared to anywhere else.
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser]
Anh Chi 2 on Su Van Hanh Street was a standard boring BJ (no CIM) for incredible 500k plus 150k to the house. I tried it with the advertised 200k, but there wasn`t a chance of even reducing it to 400k. The option would have been to leave.
Unfortunately I wanted it quite badly, so this was not an option..
Damage in total 650k VND
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I had a similar experience there. The ticket was 150k and the girl wanted a lot of money for little service. I don't recommend it.
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser]
Damage in total 650k VND
Requested Tip was 400K VND, no chance of negotiation either.
So, maybe I only had bad luck or my bargaining skills are negligible, but it definitely was my last try in Vietnam.
Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.[/QUOTE]Never ask 'how much?'. Don't negotiate. Pay the recommended price. Unfortunately if you don't speak VN they will immediately mark you out as a newbie and try to rip you off. Just say no to inflated prices, don't back down and you will be surprised how quickly the girl caves in.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minge]Never ask 'how much?'. Don't negotiate. Pay the recommended price. Unfortunately if you don't speak VN they will immediately mark you out as a newbie and try to rip you off. Just say no to inflated prices, don't back down and you will be surprised how quickly the girl caves in.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you enjoy the game or just don't mind the hassle, but if someone tries to rip me off it doesn't really put me in the mood. It makes me feel annoyed. And even if I do everything you say to combat the rip-off....I won't go back.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]There is a abbreviation link at the top. Click it and scroll to Vietnam. You will see all the street names abbreviated with their full names. So many people keep asking about the street names but never bother to click it when its so obvious (well it was to me anyway)
You formed this opinion after visiting only 2?
Not all MP's offer BJ, HJ, FS. Some are legitimate ones, others offer HJ's, some offer HJ, BJ. There are even some MP's that offer FS.
If you wanted a BJ ending there are plenty of other reports of MP's. Son Tra Hotel for example. Look back a few more pages and you will C.
If you just want a BJ then go to a BnG (Blow and Go) There are plenty of reports on them. 100k ticket and 100k tip. You also get some sort of massage too.
That's the problem, People keep comparing VN to TLD.
I did the same when I first arrived. Once you work out that not everything is what it seems you will have some fun behind closed doors.
If the girl isn't lowering her price then simply refuse to have whatever it is you wanted instead of giving in and then complaining about it.
The superbowl upstairs MP is catering to Korean, Jap expats. Lots of them live in Tan Binh. Its actually a very nicely renovated MP, compared to some catering for local vn men.
Paying 600k VND / 950baht for 1hr FS with a SYT (sweet young thing) including a room with AC, shower, toilet, towels, rubber etc provided is overpriced then I'd like to see where you can get the same deal in TLD. Unless you like Patts 500b beach Road specials.
Give a couple more MP's a try, then make your mind up. Just remember this is VN, things are done very differently compared to anywhere else.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Mik Hcmc and all the others who replied.
You are right, maybe I should try it a few times more, but I had quite the same experience in Hanoi, so maybe it's just not my thing here.
It wasn't FS for 600k VND. That would have been okay of course.
I might try it again next time here in VN.
I appreciate the comment for the abbreviations list, it really should have been obvious to me
[QUOTE=Mole Chaser]Thanks, Mik Hcmc and all the others who replied.
You are right, maybe I should try it a few times more, but I had quite the same experience in Hanoi, so maybe it's just not my thing here.
It wasn't FS for 600k VND. That would have been okay of course.
I might try it again next time here in VN.
I appreciate the comment for the abbreviations list, it really should have been obvious to me[/QUOTE]I agree that it is very difficult to get what you want easily in VN and for a decent price. It is a hell for a horny, newcomer, short-time mongerer. But that is by design. The powers that be do not want an open sex scene for tourists and they have the power to restrict it and they do. They recognize of course that there must be outlets for those who live and work here, but they don't want an open scene as found in Thai or PI. It's impossible not to agree that mongering is better in those two places for short-time visitors and tourists. But VN has it's benefits for those who can take more time to learn the scene and the language.
JD
Typical scenes of girls at a Saigon brothel waiting for customers. Right. We wish.
Apologies to O.H.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Typical scenes of girls at a Saigon brothel waiting for customers. Right. We wish.
Apologies to O.H.
JD[/QUOTE]
Looks like a typical day at my house :)
BnGs on NPK:
I am pretty disappointed with two visits to the same place, and for sure, I will never go to that one again. I was trying to go to the 84 shop, but I went just past it (a few feet) to the store right next to it. I don't know the number. The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought. Her service was horrible. I thought Id give this place a second try since I did see some good looking girls there as I was leaving the first time. So I went again and was greeted by a real good looking girl, I went upstairs, got onto the table and she left to go get towels or whatever. The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl? She said she just takes me to the room, but she would take care of me. I refused and was getting my shirt back on when she said I still had to tip her 100k! I said no, but when I left, everyone made a big fuss about it and said I still owed 100k tip to the girl.
I WILL NEVER GO TO THAT PLACE AGAIN! It was NOT #84, but right next to it. If you on the street looking at the shops, it would be on the left. I couldnt believe the treatment there. Ive never had that happen at one of these places before.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]BnGs on NPK:
The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought.......
The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl?[/QUOTE]
Hey even old chick's need loving haha. Bad luck mate.
I don't mind an older lady as long as the service makes up for the lack of youth...which is usually the case. But not there. Ive been to several places of this type and I am just amazed at the consistency of bad service.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Hey even old chick's need loving haha. Bad luck mate.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]I don't mind an older lady as long as the service makes up for the lack of youth...which is usually the case. But not there. Ive been to several places of this type and I am just amazed at the consistency of bad service.[/QUOTE]
Sadly in VN you almost expect bad service...
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]BnGs on NPK:
I am pretty disappointed with two visits to the same place, and for sure, I will never go to that one again. I was trying to go to the 84 shop, but I went just past it (a few feet) to the store right next to it. I don't know the number. The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought. Her service was horrible. I thought Id give this place a second try since I did see some good looking girls there as I was leaving the first time. So I went again and was greeted by a real good looking girl, I went upstairs, got onto the table and she left to go get towels or whatever. The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl? She said she just takes me to the room, but she would take care of me. I refused and was getting my shirt back on when she said I still had to tip her 100k! I said no, but when I left, everyone made a big fuss about it and said I still owed 100k tip to the girl.
I WILL NEVER GO TO THAT PLACE AGAIN! It was NOT #84, but right next to it. If you on the street looking at the shops, it would be on the left. I couldnt believe the treatment there. Ive never had that happen at one of these places before.[/QUOTE]For whatever reason, they decided they no longer wanted your business and wanted you to never return. But, being good business people, rather than just send you away, they would cheat you first. That would ensure that A) you would never return and B) They would get some money from you for nothing. There is a saying for this in Vietnamese, I will translate it into English "Good in Business".
Why they don't want you there, I don't know. But there are possibilities having to do with appearance and attitude. PM me for more info. Age and size alone will not factor strongly against you but combined with other characteristics involving grooming, odor, dress, etc. it may. I am not saying any of these are deficient in you, but they are among the reasons these places will not want a paying customer. A very difficult complaining attitude may also [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off so that they don't want you back. Someone like PP a while back, he would walk into the places, perve on the girls a while, say none are tall enough and then leave. So they banned him. I've been banned from a couple of places for coming early and then not choosing a girl and leaving. They believe the first customer is lucky and if the first one of the day does not go well, they are cursed the rest of the day. Kind of helps to explain why this country is one of the poorest, most backward, least developed places in the world outside Africa.
About appearance, remember this is not Thailand where the girls who go with foreigners will accept anyone and even proudly walk down the street arm in arm with him regardless of appearance. These Blow 'n Go places are serving mostly Vietnamese customers. Those Viet guys will not want to be serviced by girls who are serving foreign men that they consider to be too. . well, you get my point. Again, I'm not saying this applies to you, just some possibilities from what I have seen over the years.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]For whatever reason, they decided they no longer wanted your business and wanted you to never return. But, being good business people, rather than just send you away, they would cheat you first. That would ensure that A) you would never return and B) They would get some money from you for nothing. There is a saying for this in Vietnamese, I will translate it into English "Good in Business".
Why they don't want you there, I don't know. But there are possibilities having to do with appearance and attitude. PM me for more info. Age and size alone will not factor strongly against you but combined with other characteristics involving grooming, odor, dress, etc. it may. I am not saying any of these are deficient in you, but they are among the reasons these places will not want a paying customer. A very difficult complaining attitude may also [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off so that they don't want you back. Someone like PP a while back, he would walk into the places, perve on the girls a while, say none are tall enough and then leave. So they banned him. I've been banned from a couple of places for coming early and then not choosing a girl and leaving. They believe the first customer is lucky and if the first one of the day does not go well, they are cursed the rest of the day. Kind of helps to explain why this country is one of the poorest, most backward, least developed places in the world outside Africa.
About appearance, remember this is not Thailand where the girls who go with foreigners will accept anyone and even proudly walk down the street arm in arm with him regardless of appearance. These Blow 'n Go places are serving mostly Vietnamese customers. Those Viet guys will not want to be serviced by girls who are serving foreign men that they consider to be too. . well, you get my point. Again, I'm not saying this applies to you, just some possibilities from what I have seen over the years.
JD[/QUOTE]Yes I can understand those tactics for a business who wants to push a customer away without verbally refusing them. However, I'm a well groomed guy, average height and weight, proportionate. I've never been to this one particular place, so they have no experience of me being rude, complaining or anything like that. I dont "perve" the girl's as you would say. I think I am just a normal customer, walk in, meet the girl they have, Im usually ok with my options then walk to the designated area. I drive my own vehicles to these places, a nice bike, never on a xe om or in a taxi. I also always wear deodorant and sometimes just a little bit of cologne, but very small amount (I have a sensitive nose to that kind of stuff).
It's mind boggling was to what happened. I ALSO speak the language fluently. The shop next door and all the other BnGs, massage parlors, karaoke oms etc., I have never had any problems.
I know how Vietnam works, I know the girls here are more selective than in other countries, but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.
Not sure, but doesn't really matter at this point, there are plenty of other places to go, I just was hoping to add another shop of places I can say "I like". Their loss, not mine.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]Yes I can understand those tactics for a business who wants to push a customer away without verbally refusing them. However, I'm a well groomed guy, average height and weight, proportionate. I've never been to this one particular place, so they have no experience of me being rude, complaining or anything like that. I dont "perve" the girl's as you would say. I think I am just a normal customer, walk in, meet the girl they have, Im usually ok with my options then walk to the designated area. I drive my own vehicles to these places, a nice bike, never on a xe om or in a taxi. I also always wear deodorant and sometimes just a little bit of cologne, but very small amount (I have a sensitive nose to that kind of stuff).
It's mind boggling was to what happened. I ALSO speak the language fluently. The shop next door and all the other BnGs, massage parlors, karaoke oms etc., I have never had any problems.
I know how Vietnam works, I know the girls here are more selective than in other countries, but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.
Not sure, but doesn't really matter at this point, there are plenty of other places to go, I just was hoping to add another shop of places I can say "I like". Their loss, not mine.[/QUOTE]Well, You sound like a fine customer and one they should be happy to have. I have no idea why they don't want you. I am out of ideas. As you wrote, take your business elsewhere.
JD
Only have few day left here in Vietnam living in dam sen area looking for hot toc the give BBBJ or massage FS around area please help younger brother out first time here on vacation any information would help alot.
Thank you
How would you approch a female at the hot toc place would you just try to feel them or would you ask for the service been to a few all misses in district 11 same with mp if you no a place please give name and cross street please even if you could recomend a girl from the place how much was pay and tipped.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Njguy862]How would you approch a female at the hot toc place would you just try to feel them or would you ask for the service been to a few all misses in district 11 same with mp if you no a place please give name and cross street please even if you could recomend a girl from the place how much was pay and tipped.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Please read the Forum. I realize you are so anxious for info, you asked and then waited four and a half hours and then asked again, but all the information you need is already here, you simply have to read it.
JD
Im being kind here. No one is going to walk you any further.
[QUOTE=Westernbacon]Hi all!
Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl & DBP areas as far as BJ & FS goes. I live in Tan Phu district near the Damsen Waterpark. I have gotten BJ from some MP in this area, however it's a hit miss type of deal(more miss than hits). And these places are full of negotiating $ while your dick is in their hand, something I just don't enjoy dealing with anymore nor have the time.
I enjoy the type of service like at FS brothels near the SuperBowl on Dong Nai St. and the DBP BJ HTs where you walk in choose a gal and the price is fixed. No time wasted, no waiting for the girl to get off work as some coffee shops I frequent. The drive down to these areas are way far for me.
Anyone know of FS or BJ shops near the surrounding Damsen Waterpark area? and or Cholon district?
Thanks for looking![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johndao]Please read the Forum. I realize you are so anxious for info, you asked and then waited four and a half hours and then asked again, but all the information you need is already here, you simply have to read it.
JD[/QUOTE]I have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.
[QUOTE=Njguy862]I have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.[/QUOTE]
Are you allowed to leave D11?
Do you need permission to go to another district?
You sound like a little kid who's been spoon fed and had your bum wiped all his life.
Read back on the relevant forum threads.
Write down the address.
Get on your tricycle or if your big enough your bike with training wheels. Don't forget your brain bucket.
Ride to the address of the selected B&G from the reports.
Get whatever it is you wanted.
Tip accordingly and pay the ticket.
There is nothing stopping you from exploring around your neighbourhood. How do you think people find out about new shops?
Don't worry if you can't speak vn-ese. I know mostly swear words and I can still find what I'm looking for.
After that perhaps give something back to the forum in the way of a report.
Posters who give to the forum are looked upon more favourably than those who keep asking.
[QUOTE=Njguy862]I have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.[/QUOTE]The answer is that nothing is available in D11 that we know of. Ask your wife if you can move closer to the center or to Tan Binh.
[QUOTE=Johndao]The answer is that nothing is available in D11 that we know of. Ask your wife if you can move closer to the center or to Tan Binh.[/QUOTE]
Why Tan Binh? haha. Move to Binh Thanh.
unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended), walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.
then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf...?" but didnt say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.
after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]Unusual but delightful experience today. I was in the upper D1 area today and decided to swing by one of the BnGs on NPK. [/QUOTE]Quite different from the previous awful experiences you recently wrote about having on the same street. Different shop I assume?
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Quite different from the previous awful experiences you recently wrote about having on the same street. Different shop I assume?
JD[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is a different shop. Actually, is the shop RIGHT next door to the place I went to before and was shunned from. haha. It's like night and day between these two places for me.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45] but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.
[/QUOTE]
A few times in different places, I've been mistaken for another customer. Sometimes this worked out badly for me, other times very well ;) (a real hottie who'd just about rejected me on 2 previous visits suddenly was derriere to lap grinding, placing my hands everywhere, etc. ; on other ocassions I've gotten the cold shoulder from girls who claimed to know me, who I'd never seen before, and when I said so they laughed at me as if I was being slick, trying to stick to pretending to be someone else-- obviously my alter ego had done something to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off -- such is fortune) (another thought: maybe you have split personality, and your other self went there before ;) )
[QUOTE=D Cups]Now I do have a question for forum followers after having read the forum. Is there a place to go to find English-speaking busty beauties? Man , this would be a great business opportunity for some smart sexentrepreneur. The company is paying for a weekend for two in Long Hai and I don't have a date yet. Have four more days to find one. Maybe I should buy one of those electronic language translators? Anyone know how much they cost and where to find one? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try the backpacker area for some English speaking girls, the park (can't recall the name) on PNL is a good place to start. My last friend that made a visit met girls all day and night there begging him to help them with their English and a few offering to go out of town with him.
I've had a few buddies take bia om girls that speak decent English out of town for as little as $50 per day. Might not be an option for you, but I would think it would be the safest.
[QUOTE=D Cups]JD is right. Read the forum. Do your homework. I do. That's how I learned about Benny's Hot Toc in Ben Thanh District. There is a busty beauty there named Tan who took care me of this afternoon. Oh so nice. Got my goatee trimmed, too ;). She would not allow me to take a photo but I will definitely see her again.
Now I do have a question for forum followers after having read the forum. Is there a place to go to find English-speaking busty beauties? Man , this would be a great business opportunity for some smart sexentrepreneur. The company is paying for a weekend for two in Long Hai and I don't have a date yet. Have four more days to find one. Maybe I should buy one of those electronic language translators? Anyone know how much they cost and where to find one? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The book stores around town has the pocket translators.. try the ones near Dist.1.
There is a busty beauty at Benny's that gives really good service. Salad toss was included.
I wanted to explore some more spots this week so I headed out to District 7. I was gonna try and find a good ca phe om, however, the rain today came down so hard that it became unbearable to drive anymore. The streets were flooded up to my ankles on my automatic motorbike, which was having a hard time trudging along.
If you go to Lotte Mart, and turn left and drive along the building (on the South side of the building) you will come to Le Van Luong Street (first street past Lotte Mart). I made a left. I believe the number is 157 (but dont quote me on that).
It says its a massage and hot toc place by the sign out side next to the road. There were a couple of girls inside. One of them looked real young, like 19/20 years old and the other in her mid 20s. The older one had some big tits.
The girl offered a shit massage with minimal effort. She then went into a BBBJ but I could only get a few squirts in until she puller her face away from my unloading all of my contents into her mouth. Afterwards, she cleaned me up and I was on my way. Decent service, I will repeat when in the area. Its a good alternative for those in that area and dont want to drive all the way to District BT.
As far as the pricing goes, all-in-all it came out to 180k, including the tip. She was also very happy with what she got.
[QUOTE=Doodie1]Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. [/QUOTE]Guys,
Really appreciate all your info but PLEASE, if you would, give as explicit directions and details as you can. For instance, I went to 110 Dien Bien Phu, in District 1, to find this place, and it's a restaurant.
Now, does the "Q. BT." mean something else, indicating it's not in District 1? Please clarify if you would.
I know these abbreviations are easily understood by people familiar with Saigon but for newbies to town, more clarification would be appreciated.
And, yes, I have looked at the abbreviations chart, but see nothing that would clarify this.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Guys,
Really appreciate all your info but PLEASE, if you would, give as explicit directions and details as you can. For instance, I went to 110 Dien Bien Phu, in District 1, to find this place, and it's a restaurant.
Now, does the "Q. BT." mean something else, indicating it's not in District 1? Please clarify if you would.
I know these abbreviations are easily understood by people familiar with Saigon but for newbies to town, more clarification would be appreciated.
And, yes, I have looked at the abbreviations chart, but see nothing that would clarify this.[/QUOTE]
If you like to be a detective and search then I can give you some hints.
There is bugger all for locals in D1. D1 is for tourists and those who are entertaining guests.
So that would rule that out.
Q BT.
What does the Q stand for in Vietnam?
If you look at the address's you will see there are plenty of Q's, some even have the full spelling of the word.
Also it was mentioned in previous posts in the forum so taking a quick look back there will show.
BT. What do these 2 letters stand for?
Same as PN,TB,PMH.
If you can work these out you will work out what BT stands for.
Failing that simply go to [url]www.diadiem.com[/url]
type in the addy and you will get a dropdown list. Select the one that match's with BT and you are on your way.
If you still cant work it out with these hints feel free to PM me (PM stands for Personal Message, not some suburb of Saigon)
BTW don't take it the wrong way, I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]If you like to be a detective and search then I can give you some hints.
There is bugger all for locals in D1. D1 is for tourists and those who are entertaining guests.
So that would rule that out.
Q BT.
What does the Q stand for in Vietnam?
If you look at the address's you will see there are plenty of Q's, some even have the full spelling of the word.
Also it was mentioned in previous posts in the forum so taking a quick look back there will show.
BT. What do these 2 letters stand for?
Same as PN,TB,PMH.
If you can work these out you will work out what BT stands for.
Failing that simply go to [url]www.diadiem.com[/url]
type in the addy and you will get a dropdown list. Select the one that match's with BT and you are on your way.
If you still cant work it out with these hints feel free to PM me (PM stands for Personal Message, not some suburb of Saigon)
BTW don't take it the wrong way, I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.[/QUOTE]and for those not having CIA detectiv skills?
I mean...I too always found some forums in ISG very (unreasonably?) cryptic.
HMCH one seems to be one of them when it comes to addresses or areas.
HCMC has already its own unlogic District numbering, if we add cryptic abbreviations there is poor information given out.
Dont need a picture of the house, but if i look at BT on the given site (thanks for it!) I will find at least 3 options under BT....
I am firm believer of RTFF but if I need to search for every location abbreviation, honestly, I give up.
I go to HCMC once a year for a couple of days: time is tight already (my problem), oppurtunities even tighter ( my problem too), but if I need to spend long time to find or understand what a location is (I am ok to spend time to RTFF!), then I give up! (my problem too, lol)
Before I found ISG I had worked out what shops were what. ie massage, B&G and cafes. I had gone past the FSMP's but were thrown off by the looks of these, I never needed a haircut so never ventured inside however by riding around and looking at the signs, and the girls sitting/standing around in their uniforms. I never knew what street name, just what landmarks to turn at and approx how far via my bikes odometer I had to go down.
Then I found ISG. I too was stumped with the abbreviations.
I ended up writting these down on a piece of paper and looking the streets up.
Soon you will see the commonly mentioned ones and then you will be familiar with them.
Just remember, what is reported here is just a drop in the ocean of whats avl out there. Go for a ride around, go and explore, see what you can see.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Before I found ISG I had worked out what shops were what. ie massage, B&G and cafes. I had gone past the FSMP's but were thrown off by the looks of these, I never needed a haircut so never ventured inside however by riding around and looking at the signs, and the girls sitting/standing around in their uniforms. I never knew what street name, just what landmarks to turn at and approx how far via my bikes odometer I had to go down.
Then I found ISG. I too was stumped with the abbreviations.
I ended up writting these down on a piece of paper and looking the streets up.
Soon you will see the commonly mentioned ones and then you will be familiar with them.
Just remember, what is reported here is just a drop in the ocean of whats avl out there. Go for a ride around, go and explore, see what you can see.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you Mik. When I first got here I had no idea about ISG. Of course I did waste a lot of time and money in places like HBT bars, courtesy of taxi drivers, but I eventually started wondering around on my own on the motorbike. I started going into places and checking it out for myself. After 6-months to a year of being in VN did I find ISG.
I still go out and adventure on my own, trying places that have never been mentioned on this forum. Its hard to believe that the only good spots in HCM, or VN for that matter, are spoken about here. Try it for yourself. You'll find some deadends, or something that you dont want, but when you find a diamond in the ruff, the feeling is great!
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc].....I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.[/QUOTE]Mik, Thanks, I think, maybe. I hope your contribution here has made you feel better; are you a teacher?
For anyone wasting time looking for Benny's, please let me be ever so explicit.
Dien Bien Phu (DBP) is a very long street, running through more than one district. So, for instance, I gave the moto driver the address of 110 Dien Bien Phu. His reply: "in which district, 1 or 3? " Well, the info from the post I read had not stated a district, so he took me to district 1. It's there that I found a restaurant, not a hot toc.
I came home and searched further and did find another post that did state it was in Binh Thanh (BT) district. So, I get on a moto again and sure enough, a mere half mile from my 110 DBP in district 1, I found 110 DBP in Binh Thanh district. And, voila, there's Benny's.
I have now figured out (correct me if I am wrong, you old timers) that Q is synonymous with district. I suspect it may be an abbreviation for "quartier", the French word for district.
And, finally, I personally have mixed feelings for Benny's. Is it worth 200,000? Yes, probably. Is it warm, friendly, inviting? Well, in my experience, no.
I went in, was escorted to a nice room by a quite beautiful 20 something Viet girl who instructed me to lay down in the reclining, dentist-like chair and motioned me to drop my trousers. I actually kicked them off and she rather brusquely grabbed them and pulled them back up on my lower legs. Hmmm.
So, she got down to business with some rather nice upper body massaging and then soon paid her respects to the little elephant. In an attempt to fully enjoy her ministrations, I kicked my pants and shorts off again
WOW, the girl freaked! She quickly grabbed them off the floor and put them back on my legs again. A bit of a buzz kill but, oh well, her house, her rules so we carried on.
All things considered, I would probably not return.
I later got my own motorbike and started driving and walking around in some districts where I saw no foreigners for hours. I believe Mik and Always Hard are correct in that exploring on your own is the way to go.
In my first 48 hours, I have found many Viets to be very friendly and welcoming.
Ho Chi Minh City's central area is divided into Districts, some with numbers and others with names. The numbered districts are NOT next to one another in numerical order. The central city has Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 by number and Binh Thanh, Tan Binh, Phu Nhuan, Go Vap, Tan Phu and Thu Duc by name. The Vietnamese word for District is Quan which is abbreviated Q. So Q BT would be Binh Thanh District. Most streets are short and located in only one district. But some streets are quite long and may be found over two or even three districts. You can pick up a city map at FAHASA bookshops on Le Loi St in Q1 or on Nguyen Hue St also in D1. These shops are right in the central tourist area of D1 near the big hotels.
Districts are divided in Wards, called Phuong in Vietnamese and often abbreviated by letter F. Most wards are numbered but some are named. For example, most people's favorite Blow and Gos are in District 1, Dakao Ward. District 1 is shaped kind of like an L turned on its side, so Dakao sort of sticks out into an area surrounded by D3, Phu Nhuan and Binh Thanh.
JD
[QUOTE=Polyorchid] In an attempt to fully enjoy her ministrations, I kicked my pants and shorts off again.[/QUOTE]
Taking your pants off is not allowed in any of the hot tocs that I go to. Wait for the girl to take your pants down and then you can help her. Don't take them off. If the girl tells you to take them down, then again...don't take them off all the way. On NPK i take my shirt off. If I remember correctly, BenNy's doesn't want you to take it off either...just pull it up.
Anyway, i just wanted to say that the girl was being normal. Nothing strange about what she did (for SG HTs).
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Mik, Thanks, I think, maybe. I hope your contribution here has made you feel better; are you a teacher? [/quote]
I'm not sure how to take this, sounds like a backhanded compliment so
don't take it the wrong way but I feel like telling you to get f@cked.
This is the reason why I never spoon feed people. You have to earn it.
As for me being a teacher. NO. I don't have the patience to deal with people who don't want to learn, If you are interested then sure I can show you a thing or two but its up to you to work it out from there.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]
I came home and searched further and did find another post that did state it was in Binh Thanh (BT) district. So, I get on a moto again and sure enough, a mere half mile from my 110 DBP in district 1, I found 110 DBP in Binh Thanh district. And, voila, there's Benny's.
[/quote]
Once again failure to RTFF. Going back a few pages, months will usually answer most questions you have.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]
I have now figured out (correct me if I am wrong, you old timers) that Q is synonymous with district. I suspect it may be an abbreviation for "quartier", the French word for district.
[/QUOTE]
There ya go, you've worked it out!
Now you can find all the other cryptic street names and districts.
Just have to post up your reports.
OK, so I have my trusty Honda Wave and am cruising the city...decide to hit Binh Thanh district again. Going past Benny's, I see another hot toc a couple doors away and decide to give it a try.
The place is called MY TIEN and is at 90 Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. I went in and received a warm and cordial greeting from mamasan at the front desk. She pulls out a piece of paper and writes 250,000. I said "Benny's 200,000". "OK, 200,000" she says very quickly matching the competition.
Well, I had a much friendlier girl this time. Took me upstairs, laid me down, began quizzing me in Viet....and finally gave up, seeing I spoke not a word. She then unbuttons my shirt and pulls down my shorts and briefs.
Once again, I seek to break precedent and remove said briefs and shorts. Same reaction as Benny's as she grabs them and pulls back onto my lower legs.
I am stroking her ass and pussy under her dress and she pulls away....only to pull up her dress and remove her panties and also pulls down the top of her dress....for full access to two very large but firm breasts and a well-shaven pussy which she put my hand on.....very accommodating.
She had good technique and broke the bank in less than 5 minutes...either a tribute to her craftsmanship or a comment on my need.
All in all, a pleasant experience. She laughed and joked, complimented my little elephant and generally made me feel very welcome.
Paid my 200,000 at front desk, was given a bottle of La Vie water, and away I went.
Thumbs up for MY TIEN!
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]I'm not sure how to take this, sounds like a backhanded compliment so don't take it the wrong way but I feel like telling you to get f@cked.
This is the reason why I never spoon feed people. You have to earn it.
As for me being a teacher. NO. I don't have the patience to deal with people who don't want to learn, If you are interested then sure I can show you a thing or two but its up to you to work it out from there.
Once again failure to RTFF. Going back a few pages, months will usually answer most questions you have.
There ya go, you've worked it out!
Now you can find all the other cryptic street names and districts.
Just have to post up your reports.[/QUOTE]Mik I think you jave mistaken polyorchards lack of initiative in terms of RTFF as oppose to what it really is, ie stupidity, I mean someone has given him the address with the district name and if he had given that to the taxi driver in total instead of just the number and street name, then he would have got there, also try a bit of google might help.
On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.
Maybe I will give it a try another time.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]The place is called MY TIEN and is at 90 Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. I went in and received a warm and cordial greeting from mamasan at the front desk. She pulls out a piece of paper and writes 250,000. I said "Benny's 200,000". "OK, 200,000" she says very quickly matching the competition.
[/QUOTE]
This is a good report. It's so nice to read something like this, with fact's, numbers, and 1st hand experience.
And good negotiating. These places shouldn't cost more than 200,000.
The experience you had sounds very normal. Groping is normal in these places. Glad you found a friendly girl.
[QUOTE=Bespoke]On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.
Maybe I will give it a try another time.[/QUOTE]
You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?
[QUOTE=Johndao]Ho Chi Minh City's central area is divided into Districts, some with numbers and others with names...
Districts are divided in Wards, called Phuong in Vietnamese and often abbreviated by letter F. Most wards are numbered but some are named. For example, most people's favorite Blow and Gos are in District 1, Dakao Ward. District 1 is shaped kind of like an L turned on its side, so Dakao sort of sticks out into an area surrounded by D3, Phu Nhuan and Binh Thanh...[/QUOTE]
Nice primer on HCMC geography, JD.
One minor correction: Wards (Phuong) are often abbreviated by 'Ph.' Technically speaking, the letter 'F' does not exist in the Vietnamese alphabet.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken]Mik I think you jave mistaken polyorchards lack of initiative in terms of RTFF as oppose to what it really is, ie stupidity, I mean someone has given him the address with the district name and if he had given that to the taxi driver in total instead of just the number and street name, then he would have got there, also try a bit of google might help.[/QUOTE]
Guys,
Why so tough on Polyorchid? I would not say he is stupid at all, but he is new here and things can be confusing. From what he has written so far I give him 9.5/10 for initiative. So he got confused by HCMC Districts. Who here has not been confused by local addresses especially at first? This is a guy who did read the Forum first, he just made a small mistake cause he was more interested in getting his dick sucked than reading further. I was actually the first to mention Benny's here a while back and I even included a map and marked approximate location of the place in my post.
I think this guy is ok and may be an asset to the Vietnam threads, something we sorely need. Poly was on a bike on his own, scoping places his first week here! And he found one and checked it out and posted a report right away. I say we need more like him so let's treat him right. He's no Pokey Penguin or Joe Coodige types who can't find their way even given explicit directions. I have been helping Poly via PM and I hope in the future he'll be able to provide some more original photos for the VN Forum. We need that.
JD
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Nice primer on HCMC geography, JD.
One minor correction: Wards (Phuong) are often abbreviated by 'Ph.' Technically speaking, the letter 'F' does not exist in the Vietnamese alphabet.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are right Raver, there is no letter 'F' in the Vietnamese alphabet and Ward or Phuong is often abbreviated by 'P' or 'Ph'. I should have written that occasionally it is abbreviated as 'F' but usually as 'P' or 'Ph'. I was just trying to help others in all abbreviation eventualities. Where I live, my address is always written with 'F' for the ward, don't know why.
See attached, from the book "Footprint Vietnam" By Claire Boobbyer.
JD
[QUOTE=Raverboy]You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure of the exact spelling b/c I heard "cha ya" bridge so given the southern accent it could be Cha Va. It is past the Nguyen Tri Phuong bridge if you are heading (west?) away from D1 on Dong Tay highway.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?[/QUOTE]It is indeed Cha Va bridge. I couldn't find on google maps but found it on diadiem.com. The street is Van Kiep near the Chau Van Liem circle if you're coming from district 5.
My name is Polyorchid and I am a My Tien addict!
I really did NOT plan to stop there today but as fate often does, it presented me with an opportunity to go to Binh Thanh and I passed right by My Tien and Benny's. So, innocently enough, I decided to stop and get some pics of My Tien. Well, of course, for safety's sake, I had to pull off the highway and park to get a good picture.
Aw, hell, I'm here, and the girls are looking sweet so I might as well stop in for a good handmaiden's wank, so in I went.
I was immediately commandeered by what appeared to be Uncle Ho's long lost grand-niece and she whisked me into the back room. But, wait, just as she bulldozes me in, I catch the eye of a sweet young, ultra small breasted other girl. So I stopped the bulldozer and said "I want her". Which all involved immediately understood.
So, with the tag brilliantly and successfully executed, I proceed into the room with my future wife. And what a wise decision that was.
She was fun, funny, laughing, tickling me, etc. All in all, a very fun girl, with excellent A+ cups, perfectly fitting my profile of the perfect breast.
Lots of DFK, touching, groping, and finally, the elephant roared.
I even got a picture of her before I left. Never did ask her name, but a very sweet, accommodating, and ever so willing provider.
I have attached a picture of her and one of the front of both BENNY'S and MY TIEN. Remember, they are no more than 100 feet apart. My Tien at 90 Dien Bien Phu (DBP) and Benny's a little further down.
Ha has been working at the Blow and Go on NPK longer than any other. The shop is in it's fourth location (which was also the second, but now renovated) in five years. These pictures were taken in 2005.
JD
There is a hotel in District 5 on Tran Hung Dao (Between Bui Huu Nghia and Tran Tuan Khai) that offers pretty good service. The entrance fee is 100,000, which includes use of the steam room, sauna, cold plunge etc., a 1 hour massage, plus at the end you can relax in an room with large couches with your massage girl, have a free drink (coffee, fresh juice etc.), a bowl of instant noodles with egg, and watch tv. Your massage girl will sit there with you and chat if you desire (you're not required to partake)
As far as extra services go, they all offer BBBJ but CIM will depend on each girl, but most of them do not. They are also not pushy about price. They dont ask how much you will tip. Before, there use to be a sign in every room that said the standard tip was 200k and the girls do not expect any more than that. However, the signs have been removed now, but they still work in the same fashion. Also, most of the girls there do a real good massage as well.
The facilities are good, but not great. Its an older hotel, but everything is clean. Overall its good a good bang for you dong kinda place. Sorry guys, I forget the name of the hotel as I am writing this post. If you are coming from D1 down THD, it will be on the left hand side of the street. Its a hotel, with massage and karaoke. The massage is open 24hours a day.
So I was a bit bored tonight and there was a slight break in the rain so I decided to take a drive into District 7. I went down to Lam Van Ben to see if any cafe om's were open, but I couldn't see anything happening. Keep in mind it was late...11:30pm or so. I made a right turn onto Nguyen Thi Thap and saw a BUNCH of massage places open with a bunch of cute girls in short skirts. Not sure about services here. For some reason I have really had on my mind a cafe om (never been). I ended up making a left hand turn onto Le Van Luong (going back towards PMH). I drove for awhile until I came across 279. There was about 4 girls sitting out front and they kinda called me in as I passed by. This is a dark Cafe Om type place. I pulled in and chose the best looking of the 4. I would say they were a 7/10, all with large (above average) sized breasts. We went straight into the back area where they had 3 small couches, separated away from each other for "privacy". There was no one else there so it was no big deal to me.
Sat down and was offered some beverage. The girl and I chatted for a few mins, just some small talk, then she asked me to pull down the pants as she did the same. She cleaned me up and began to ask how much for a BBBJ. I said 100k and she giggled. Ended up paying 300k for BBBJ, coffee and house fee. Without looking up in the forum, I can't remember if this is average or 100k high. But anyways that's what happened. Service was good, she took her time, I never felt rushed. Afterward she gave me a quick neck and back rub to and then I was on my way.
This place seems to stay open late. Not easy to find in that area or for a cafe om. They seem to usually close around 11-11:30 pm. This places had a good selection of girls (small shop but many girls), and service was pretty good. Nothing spectacular but also not bad either. That's always a plus here in VN. The street is dark, not much lighting, but this place is easy to see in the evening, as there isn't much around it. I added a photo of the general area of which it is in.
[quote=alwayshard45] ended up paying 300k for bbbj, coffee and house fee. .[/quote]
nice detailed report. thanks.
i don't like cafe oms. i've been to a few. in my experience the girls are not beautiful and the service is so so. i went to one in go vap that was ok, but too far for me now. my total cost was 100,000 including the drink, house fee, and tip. this was about a year ago.
i think the cafe om idea is so great. i'm a morning person and i have free time then. i'd love to go to a cafe for my morning coffee and get a bj at the same time. or even in the evening. i guess i'm thinking of something like a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in bangkok. a bj bar. but the cafe oms i've been to here just aren't that great.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]There is a hotel in District 5 on Tran Hung Dao (Between Bui Huu Nghia and Tran Tuan Khai) that offers pretty good service. The entrance fee is 100,000, which includes use of the steam room, sauna, cold plunge etc., a 1 hour massage, plus at the end you can relax in an room with large couches with your massage girl, have a free drink (coffee, fresh juice etc.), a bowl of instant noodles with egg, and watch tv. Your massage girl will sit there with you and chat if you desire (you're not required to partake)
As far as extra services go, they all offer BBBJ but CIM will depend on each girl, but most of them do not. They are also not pushy about price. They dont ask how much you will tip. Before, there use to be a sign in every room that said the standard tip was 200k and the girls do not expect any more than that. However, the signs have been removed now, but they still work in the same fashion. Also, most of the girls there do a real good massage as well.
The facilities are good, but not great. Its an older hotel, but everything is clean. Overall its good a good bang for you dong kinda place. Sorry guys, I forget the name of the hotel as I am writing this post. If you are coming from D1 down THD, it will be on the left hand side of the street. Its a hotel, with massage and karaoke. The massage is open 24hours a day.[/QUOTE]Interesting AH; great report.
I hate to go off beam here but let's say I just wanted to go and use the steam room, cold plunge, and sauna, for instance. Would they allow that. In other words, no massage, no bj, just use of facilities.
There's a similar place on Avenue Fortuna in Cebu, although Japanese, and I used to go there just for the use of the water facilities. It was great, and I'd like to find something similar here in Saigon.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Interesting AH; great report.
I hate to go off beam here but let's say I just wanted to go and use the steam room, cold plunge, and sauna, for instance. Would they allow that. In other words, no massage, no bj, just use of facilities.
There's a similar place on Avenue Fortuna in Cebu, although Japanese, and I used to go there just for the use of the water facilities. It was great, and I'd like to find something similar here in Saigon.[/QUOTE]
Poly, perhaps try the upstairs MP at Saigon Superbowl.
They have a large steam, sauna rooms, Hot baths, jacuzzi's pools.
Plenty of Jap/Korean clients there. I saw some punters eating fruit platters (and other foods can be ordered I'd guess) and drinking.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]For some reason I have really had on my mind a cafe om (never been). I ended up making a left hand turn onto Le Van Luong (going back towards PMH). I drove for awhile until I came across 279. There was about 4 girls sitting out front and they kinda called me in as I passed by. This is a dark Cafe Om type place. I pulled in and chose the best looking of the 4. I would say they were a 7/10, all with large (above average) sized breasts. We went straight into the back area where they had 3 small couches, separated away from each other for "privacy". There was no one else there so it was no big deal to me.
Sat down and was offered some beverage. The girl and I chatted for a few mins, just some small talk, then she asked me to pull down the pants as she did the same. She cleaned me up and began to ask how much for a BBBJ. I said 100k and she giggled. Ended up paying 300k for BBBJ, coffee and house fee. Without looking up in the forum, I can't remember if this is average or 100k high. But anyways that's what happened. Service was good, she took her time, I never felt rushed. Afterward she gave me a quick neck and back rub to and then I was on my way.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report AH. The Cafe Om scene is in serious decline here in HCMC. HotToc cover just seems to work a lot better for them to feebly mask the true purpose of a Blow n Go. Also, I'd say 300k is way high for these dark and seedy, way down-market places on LVL in Q7. There used to be a bunch of places along NVL Highway before they widened it. Really a countryside feel to them with lots of very cute young girls to be had in very crude conditions. I paid just 30k for the coffee and 50k to the girls back then for BJ w/CIM. Later I increased tip to 70k to make it 100k all done. This ended in around 2007 though.
Last times I was around Le Van Luong and Lam Van Ben but nothing to write home about. Should be cheaper than the local Blow and Go HT places. I'd say 120k to 150k at these places should be more than enough, all done. Lots of ugly girls usually, won't hire them in the BnG places.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Thanks for the report AH. The Cafe Om scene is in serious decline here in HCMC. HotToc cover just seems to work a lot better for them to feebly mask the true purpose of a Blow n Go. Also, I'd say 300k is way high for these dark and seedy, way down-market places on LVL in Q7. There used to be a bunch of places along NVL Highway before they widened it. Really a countryside feel to them with lots of very cute young girls to be had in very crude conditions. I paid just 30k for the coffee and 50k to the girls back then for BJ w/CIM. Later I increased tip to 70k to make it 100k all done. This ended in around 2007 though.
Last times I was around Le Van Luong and Lam Van Ben but nothing to write home about. Should be cheaper than the local Blow and Go HT places. I'd say 120k to 150k at these places should be more than enough, all done. Lots of ugly girls usually, won't hire them in the BnG places.
JD[/QUOTE]
Haha, putting things into perspective of the Q.BT BnGs, yeah, I did pay a little high. Lesson learned. Thanks for the info JD. I had a good experience and I will probably do it again when the mood strikes. There are plenty of young beautiful girls there, but also an equal amount of old, washed up hags. They must have a superior level of service for them to still get paid enough tips. Im gonna check out some other ones in a different area that a VN friend of mine told me about, and I'll report back.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Poly, perhaps try the upstairs MP at Saigon Superbowl.
They have a large steam, sauna rooms, Hot baths, jacuzzi's pools.
Plenty of Jap/Korean clients there. I saw some punters eating fruit platters (and other foods can be ordered I'd guess) and drinking.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Mik, will give it a try.
I went to an NPK spot last April and was directed upstairs by a somewhat average girl, not great in the face or body but the skill set this girl had was amazing. Would definately request her again over some of the other cuties who have looks but no skills. She was fan...fuckin...tastic!
10am: i get up and hop into a taxi going north on hbt.
we take a right onto dbp still heading north.
i am headed just out of district 1 to either benny hot toc or my tien hot toc.
once you pass the river that runs horizontally, you will come up to:
"my tien" a hot toc on 90 dien bien phu
"benny a hot" toc on 110 dien bien phu
both will be on the right hand side as you are heading north.
the first one you will run into will be my tien and 3 more shops up, you will run into benny.
my taxi driver had a bit of a hard time understanding where i was going, but as soon as i have him stop the cab at "my tien" he turns his head around and smiles and says. "later i show you other girl"
the cab cost $30k dong, i don't have change so i give him $50k dong which is $5 usd.
i walk into my tien at around 10: 20am. they are already open with 4 young girls standing around talking, but no customers.
with my baseball cap and sunglasses on, the girls know why i am there and it isn't for a haircut or scalp massage. although scalp massages are fantastic!
some expats had said that you are to pay $200k dong up front and that is all.
a semi-older lady walks around behind the corner and tells me $100k dong.
so i lay $100k dong at the desk and head up the spiral staircase to the 2nd floor.
one of the young girls is following right behind me.
i was told by some expats that you can go ahead and choose the girl, but i felt that all the girls working today were 7/10 with one girl maybe an 8 and didn't feel like being picky. as i planned to be back a bunch during this week long period and would be able to comment on all the girls/experiences.
once we are on the 2nd floor the girl points to a room with a bunch of massage type tables with sinks attached to them.
she has me lay down and goes to the other room to get some towelettes.
she then helps me pull down my shorts/boxers down
and begins to wipe me down.
before she begins she pulls down her top and pulls down her panties.
she has nice large boobs and she is trimmed down below.
wow! 2 for 2. viet girls who are either trimmed or shaven. way different than from last year.
the girl is definitely a pro, won't get into the visual details as you all know what a bj is.
but between the fast and sometimes slow pace, the sucking and teasing to licking around the area, the experience was far better than average.
not to complain about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in bkk/patts, as i always go there at least 2x per trip, but imho, the girls at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for a majority of them are not all that cute and at times the experience is a bit mechanical.
i felt that my first time at my tien, the girl, although a pro, made it less mechanical and made it an enjoyable morning.
one thing that cracked me up, was how this girl from the begin was speaking to me in vietnamese.
during the whole time, i never once said a word in vietnamese and she still continue to talk to me in vietnamese to the very end.
the whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes and just before leaving the room i handed her $100k dong which brought up the total cost to $200k dong as stated by many expats as the standard price for both the shop and tip to the girl.
i guess they changed the set-up for now and are separating the cost to the shop and the amount to the girl.
now my original plan was to try both places this morning, but as soon as i was done at my tien hot toc, i felt that i maybe didn't have the energy for another round over at benny's.
as i stood there trying to decide if i should just go ahead and head into benny's a taxi pulls up, so i figured i would pass on benny's and head out for lunch.
[QUOTE=Bespoke]On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.
Maybe I will give it a try another time.[/QUOTE]
Just went out and rode the East West Highway (Dai Lo Dong Tay) from D1 to D6 and back trying to locate this place! Couldnt find anything around Cau Cha Va.
You said 'on the way [b]out[/b] of HCMC crossing the Dong Tay highway...' So is this KTV/Massage building in D6 or D8? On what street? Van Kiep? Chau Van Liem? Crossing Cau Cha Va and arriving in D8, the street terminates at Ben Binh Dong.
You said 'on the way [b]out[/b] of HCMC crossing the Dong Tay highway...' So is this KTV/Massage building in D6 or D8? On what street? Van Kiep? Chau Van Liem? Crossing Cau Cha Va and arriving in D8, the street terminates at Ben Binh Dong.[/QUOTE]From DiaDiem's map (google does not seem to show the bridge) it looks like it is at the corner of Tung Thien Vuong and Ben Xom Cui. You start in D5, go over Van Kiep past the big prudential building that I think is to the right. Straight ahead past the right bend that you are forced to take as you cross the bridge, is the Cho Xom Cui (I think) with the KTV/Massage.
The best I can tell is that it is D8. If you're heading on Tung Thien Vuong heading towards D5 the place is immediately to your right before you take a left onto the bridge heading over to D5 and Van Kiep.
Hopefully it is clearer. I'm not in HCM at the moment so I can't add addition details at the moment.
[QUOTE=Bespoke]It is indeed Cha Va bridge. I couldn't find on google maps but found it on diadiem.com. The street is Van Kiep near the Chau Van Liem circle if you're coming from district 5.[/QUOTE]
Went back and found this place that you described accross from the Prudential Building in Q8, with the intention of trying it out.
This is a real run down building when you see it up close. At 10 pm on a monday night there were 2-3 security guys sitting around shooting the shit at the entrance to the parking area, saw only 2-3 bikes parked. The whole place looked a little nasty so I passed.
I can not understand why this endless discussion about some KTV/massage place out of town. The OP never even wrote that he went there, just said he drove by it. It probably looked bright, all lit up with neon. By the way you guys have been writing about it and looking for it and mapping it and speculating about its exact location, you'd think it held the Holy Grail of HCMC brothel secrets. It's just another place with Karaoke and Massage, the same as what you can find at a hundred hotels in town.
I can't wait for the actual breathless user reports, something like: "Found the place, paid 100k for a massage ticket, led to a room, an ok girl came in and began massage. She could not speak any English. Finally toward the end of the hour got down to my goods and started negotiations. We agreed on HJ for 200k but she held a towel over me and kept her eye on the window. Did not allow any groping. Took me 2 hours to get home as I was so far out of town I was lost."
Karaoke report: "Went to a room with a pretty girl. She had a lot of beer which she accidentally kept spilling because she was so drunk. She ordered fruit and opened lots of bags of snacks. We sang some awful songs and then some guy said 'closing time' and gave me a bill for 500k Dong. I got lost on the way home cause I was so far from home and I was drunk."
Maybe I'll start a thread. "Oh, I saw a bar in Nha Be (cryptic directions, blah, blah, blah) and it had lights and I think I spotted a girl inside."
Then there can be endless replies from guys looking for it and seeing what magical wonders lay inside.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]I can not understand why this endless discussion about some KTV/massage place out of town. The OP never even wrote that he went there, just said he drove by it. It probably looked bright, all lit up with neon. By the way you guys have been writing about it and looking for it and mapping it and speculating about its exact location, you'd think it held the Holy Grail of HCMC brothel secrets. It's just another place with Karaoke and Massage, the same as what you can find at a hundred hotels in town...[/QUOTE]
Simple. 2 reasons:
1. I enjoy the adventure of getting on my bike and going to a part of HCMC I'd otherwise have no reason to be in, except for the search of pussy.
I was completely aware that the OP never even wrote he went there. That's why I went, with the intention of trying it and reporting about it here. Some contribute with awesome photos, others 'give back to the board' in their own way. Is that ok with you? This isnt the Photo Section, is it? ;)
2. Precisely because you can find Karaoke and Massage places at 'a hundred hotels in town', I intend to visit as many as I can while I'm here because a) I'm still young, b) see reason #1 above, and c) I'm always in search of that gem that will deliver that ultimate GFE/PSE - whichever my mood dictates, to claim as my regular pet. Check my posts, my search brings me to the rest of ASEAN, as and when I desire.
It's like a drug. Once you've tried it, you're constantly searching for that first-time high. I am old enough to know that I'll never find the same high as that first time ever again, but I'm going to let myself think that I can before I die and in doing so, I would have lived my life to the fullest in the meantime!
Make sense to you? Doesnt matter, I don't really care.
Well, I went to Rona Massage the other day. The lady showed me an 'official' price list, and the price for body massage was 150k. So I give it to her, then proceeded in a small room where a very cute woman gave me a great massage. At the end she asks if I want to have 'baby massage' and of course I say yes, but then I had to tell her how much tip I'd leave if she did it... remembering what people said here, that you usually leave the same tip as the house price, I offered her 200k for baby massage (I didn't have 150k on me!) or 120k for the massage if she didn't want to (it was worth it, such a great massage). I told her 'no bargaining' and she had to make a choice. She decided to massage the baby, with great skills!
Do you think I was stupid and gave too much tip? I know 350k+ for a happy ending massage is very expensive here but I felt the place was very clean, good quality, and the girl very sexy. I had the feeling I wouldn't have such a great experience at a 200k parlor, and this place is just a few minutes walk from my residence, so I don't need a taxi or motorbike.
[QUOTE=Willy Wally] this place is just a few minutes walk from my residence, so I don't need a taxi or motorbike.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't really matter what you tipped. Were you happy with the service?
Will you go back?
If you go back will you get the same service?
Chances are you will return, and you will be paying the same price again.
However you will most probably get good service for the tip you paid since its higher than what locals pay, but remember you reward good service with a tip, bad service you either don't tip (like I've done in the past) or you tip 20-50k.
If you are a regular you will build up a good relationship and possibly discount on ticket price like I had with one MP a couple yrs back. I would get half price ticket or free since I was "cumming" everyday.
Will it drive up the price?
Probably not since that is what normal tourists will tip.
Sounds like you've found a good place to get your stress's relieved.
So I know there are quiet a few guys out there who live in the District 10/11 area, so hopefully this will bring some smiles to a few of you. Where 3/2 Street and Hong Bang Street meet at a large round-a-bout type of intersection there is another street called Minh Phuong (see attached map). This street is littered with ca phe om's. During the day time there are only a few open (about 3 or 4 shops) but in the evening there are probably 9 or 10 shops. In terms of service and quality, each shop is different.
Based on the advice of others on this forum about ca phe om's, I went out and tried a bunch over the past few days. On the map you will see green and red areas. Red meaning they do services in-house, where as the green areas, they want you to take them out to a hotel, but its based on your barging etc. All of them have girls sitting next to you, holding etc. The shops closer to Binh Thoi Street have girls that do services right there in the shop, HJ/BJ etc, but generally they are not as good looking. The shops closer to the round-a-bout have great looking girls, and young, but they will cost more and they don't have any available services at the store.
I went to a shop (cant remember name or number, sorry guys) close to Binh Tnoi street and had a great BBBJ, a coffee, and good conversation with a girl for about 100k total. Keep in mind this is pretty far from D1, they dont speak any English. Probably not even a little. Every girl I saw spoke not 1 word, aside from "hello" in English. But dont be intimidated, they know why you are there.
Drove into D7 yesterday and was looking for a good BnG shop. I ended up at 561 because there were a few cuties that I could see from the road. I pull and a cute one gets up to open the door and bring me in. Usually that means she is the girl going to service you...right? haha. I get into the stall I was told to take off my shirt and pull down my pants, then the girl leaves, for what I think is to get some clean wipes. After a min or two, another girl walks in for the service. She is FAT, but still had a cute face. I asked where the other girl when and she said she had a phone call. At this point I already have my pants down and ready to be blown, so I allow her to go ahead with it. Worst decision EVER. The girl's snatch was disgusting! I can't even describe what I felt in that jungle down there. SO hairy and discusting. I have nightmares because of it now! Then to makes things even worse, the BBBJ was horrendous. She only put her mouth around the tip, constantly jacking me way to fast from the begging, then stopped sucking on my rod to lick my chest, while continueing to jack me off. So it was more of a BBHJ with a little bit of mouth on the tip (generally for about 3-5 seconds). I complain and said she was horrible and I wanted a different girl. She said I need to pay the house fee and her tip, then another girl would come in. Yes, Im ok with that, since you were so horrible. But she said the "massage" fee was 200k and her tip was 200k.
At this point, I was in no mood for her BS or negotiating. I laughed. Pulled up my pants, through 100k on the table and walked out. She starts complaining as I was leaving, saying I didnt pay her anything as I promised etc. There was another guy coming in (VNese) and as he walks in and I'm leaving, I start to tell him what these girls were doing here. The guy seemed unhappy and also didnt want to get robbed like me and we walked out together.
I for one, will never come back to this place again. Even if they have Ms. Vietnam working there. I dont do bait-n-switch shops.
AH
O yeah!
Mongered under a different handle in NYC, SF & LA, now a happy monger in HCMC.
Took a run on my moto to DBP this morning to check out Benny after RTFF: my only surprise was how big an operation it is.
Plenty of girls to choose from, I got one with large(-ish for a Viet) boobs and a toothy smile.
100 at the desk and up we go to the dentist. A few minutes patting me down before she stroked my lad, got encouragement and motioned me to wait. Back in a moment, beckoning me to the back room to an empty booth (recently vacated by a fellow western monger, one of a group).
No negotiation, no messing- we both knew what I'm there for! Down with my pants, up with my shirt, out with her tits and down with her pants and we're off!
Good pace, variety & technique.
Careful wipe down of all my best bits before and after the tubes get blown, no probs with me delving in her best bits either.
Job done, 100 note to her and I'm gone.
Think I was supposed to go back to the first chair for a bit of a massage or TLC but I wasn't bothered.
Next safari will be to Benny's neighbor- for research purposes only, of course.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45]I don't do bait-n-switch shops.
AH[/QUOTE]
Yes you do, you just wrote about one! They baited and switched you and you went for it. Maybe you meant to write, "I won't fall for a 'Bait-n-Switch' again".
Hey, I am writing this with good humor. I consider AH an ISG Buddy and a fellow mongerer who knows his way around.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao]Yes you do, you just wrote about one! They baited and switched you and you went for it. Maybe you meant to write, "I won't fall for a 'Bait-n-Switch' again".
Hey, I am writing this with good humor. I consider AH an ISG Buddy and a fellow mongerer who knows his way around.
JD[/QUOTE]
Ok, ok. You've got me there! Well, the main point is, I wont let this happen AGAIN! Haha. And without any question, I will never revisit this place again. My left palm and a movie are a better choice then ever going there again.
Was looking for another legit massage place tonite, and went to one on HBT sort of across from the 49-51 bar area. Place was in the alley off the street. 300K for 60 mins. Ok, I have a bit of $ to burn cause I leave for Singapore tomorrow.
Girl was hot, had one of those "cleopatra" haircuts, but teeth were bad, and hands smelled like garlic (I thought that only happened in the Korean places). I actually fell asleep on my stomach and she tapped me to wake me up. I turned over and she started on my legs and thighs. Then make the "you want HJ" motion. I said sure. She said "quiet, people in next room" and then pulls out her phone and types 2, 000, 000 VND for a HJ. I actually laughed out loud. And I mean loud. She shoosed me again and then said 1 million. I laughed even louder.
I told her in a hushed voice. "I can go across the street and fuck a girl for 2 million VND". So, she finished the massage I gave her 100K (the massage was good) and left. I'm sure she was pissed. But, oh well. I asked her if she worked after work. No response.
Off to Singapore,
GG
How safe is it to get bbbj's from these hoc toc places? I mean these girls do it for a living day in and day out and it's probably safe to assume not all their customers are std free.
[QUOTE=Geneva Guy]Was looking for another legit massage place tonite, and went to one on HBT sort of across from the 49-51 bar area. Place was in the alley off the street. 300K for 60 mins. Ok, I have a bit of $ to burn cause I leave for Singapore tomorrow.
Girl was hot, had one of those "cleopatra" haircuts, but teeth were bad, and hands smelled like garlic (I thought that only happened in the Korean places). I actually fell asleep on my stomach and she tapped me to wake me up. I turned over and she started on my legs and thighs. Then make the "you want HJ" motion. I said sure. She said "quiet, people in next room" and then pulls out her phone and types 2, 000, 000 VND for a HJ. I actually laughed out loud. And I mean loud. She shoosed me again and then said 1 million. I laughed even louder.
I told her in a hushed voice. "I can go across the street and fuck a girl for 2 million VND". So, she finished the massage I gave her 100K (the massage was good) and left. I'm sure she was pissed. But, oh well. I asked her if she worked after work. No response.
Off to Singapore,
GG[/QUOTE]Funny! You could have told her to go ahead with the HJ when she asked 1 million, then giver her 100k after. If she has a problem with that, tell her you did not understand all the zeros and that anyway, 100k is fine for massage and HJ tip.
JD
[QUOTE=Greywolf69]How safe is it to get bbbj's from these hoc toc places? I mean these girls do it for a living day in and day out and it's probably safe to assume not all their customers are std free.[/QUOTE]
It is safe to asume the girls get STD's from time to time. I know a few massage and bar girls and they don't seem to think it's much of a problem. They really dont seem the understand the seriousness of the different. If you explain the science of it they'll think your making it up and stick to their 'passed down and around beliefs'. The truth is they all get them, as you would expect.
Anyone who has had a long term relationship with a local Viet girl will understand what I'm talking about.
I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?
The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?
They changed the rules, you have to go in and eat first and then they take you to the secret place. Over the bridge in Q Binh Thanh, ask the cute little waitress for details.
[QUOTE=Doodie1]They changed the rules, you have to go in and eat first and then they take you to the secret place. Over the bridge in Q Binh Thanh, ask the cute little waitress for details.[/QUOTE]Are you serious?
[QUOTE=Hero9009]I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?
The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?[/QUOTE]
I think you were still in D1. You want Binh Thanh (BT) district.
Hi,
Anyone have a report on Dai Nam massage? Quality of girls? Quality of service? Price? Tip?
Thanks
Yes, I am serious, go over the bridge to Quan Binh Thanh.
At Khai Hoan Blow 'n Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'n Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.
Please take note: The girls may not be as good-looking overall as on NPK or DBP, or they may be just as good-looking. They are not as well trained in BJ and CIM as Benny's or NPK girls, etc. They may be great, they may not be. They may take your CIM or they may dodge it. But the cost is fixed at only 200k for the house and girl and includes the tip. Nobody will ask any more and there is no need to discuss price except to confirm it the first time when you go in.
All in all, if you are in the neighborhood and have a load of cum you want to spill, it's hard to go wrong for only 200k which after all, is nearly free.
Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.
JD
[QUOTE=Hero9009]I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?
The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?[/QUOTE]
I went there yesterday. It's there. Everything is the same. FYI a coke at Benny's is 20,000. Yikes.
[QUOTE=Hero9009]I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?
The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?[/QUOTE]Hero, since I was a newcomer very recently (and still very very junior here in hcmc) I will try to give you the help some very patiently extended to me.
I suspect you were still in District 1 where you were looking for the Dien Bien Phu addresses because the same addresses exist in District 1 as over on the Binh Thanh side.
Keep going and cross the bridge. Stay on the far right side of the road and you will soon turn off the main road into the frontage road adjacent to the main road.
Both shops are not that far along after you cross the bridge. I was by there yesterday and at that time, BENNY's flashing light sign was no longer in view but still a large sandwich board sign with the name.
I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1099190]Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.
JD[/QUOTE]JD, many thanks for this gem! Other then being out a little, this is the best Hot Toc / BJ / MP I've been to in HCM.
When I was finished, I handed over my 200k and was out the door. The girl didn't even ask for a tip.
Not hard to find, just look for the green sign.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Adhome01; 1101958]JD, many thanks for this gem! Other then being out a little, this is the best Hot Toc / BJ / MP I've been to in HCM.
When I was finished, I handed over my 200k and was out the door. The girl didn't even ask for a tip.
Not hard to find, just look for the green sign.
Thanks again! [/QUOTE]I am glad you had a good time. It's not that she did not ask for a tip. Basically it is 100k for the house and 100k for the girl, fixed 'tip. ' So no need for her to ask, you paid it already. They tell you 200k because that is all it is. Places where girls haggle and beg for tips are rip-off joints, not standard Vietnam Massa BJ places.
JD
[QUOTE=Toddtworip; 1084359]"My Tien" a Hot Toc on 90 Dien Bien Phu.
"Benny a Hot" Toc on 110 Dien Bien Phu.
Both will be on the right hand side as you are heading North.
The first one you will run into will be My Tien and 3 more shops up, you will run into Benny.
[/QUOTE]I went to My Tien yesterday. Girls aren't as good looking as at Benny's in my opinion. Picked the best looking one, Nhi. Service was good. She had bumps on her legs and butt. Don't know what that was about. I paid 200k upon arrival, but the girl asked me for a tip after the massage. Ignored her and went to leave. They actually seemed to hesitate with my motorbike as there was some discussion in tviet. I assume about the tip. Anyway, that only lasted for a moment and then I was bid farewell. Average experience.
[QUOTE=Marrow; 1103203]OH my hahahaha. The smell is just because, I don't know if you ever been in Cambodia, same, they eat like dogs, continuosly, and with hands, no forks or spoon. So, unluckly for you, she just finish to eat few mins before you came haha.
The price was 200. 000 vnd, not 2mil trust me haha. She wrote 1mil, was 100. 000. Pissed obiouvsly because you laugh for a normal cheap price, for tourists. Reason is simple. 99% of workers have zero instruction, neither elementary school, so they barely know how to use a pen. Seems you never tried to ask the price for a phone to a local little store. The phone's price is 200. 000, not 2mil like he will write, it's a shit Chinese copy, and you're going to have local price, don't laugh! Hahahahaa Next time you go to HCM say to her "Hey, I can fuck a young girl for 100. 000, so 50. 000 (not 5 mil eh hahaha) is more than enough", and pretend a THANKS! When finish, if able to make you cum hahahahahaa. [/QUOTE]Yes, I think Marrow may be right, people here are totally confused about numbers, even when using their own language. It may be their lack of education, or it may be their general carelessness in all matters, or it may be they are confused by so many zeros in their money after decades of inflation due to economic mismanagement. I have had people tell me something is 500 Dong when they meant 500 thousand and so have you.
JD
Any advices for the last day of the year?
[QUOTE=Best01;1106645]Any advices for the last day of the year?[/QUOTE]Go get farked?
Or blown?
I'm thinking about dropping by the FSMP's.
Anyone been to one recently? What are the girls there like?
I havn't been there for close to 1yr, despite living in the area and riding past them usually once a week.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1103299]Yes, I think Marrow may be right, people here are totally confused about numbers, even when using their own language. It may be their lack of education, or it may be their general carelessness in all matters, or it may be they are confused by so many zeros in their money after decades of inflation due to economic mismanagement. I have had people tell me something is 500 Dong when they meant 500 thousand and so have you.
JD[/QUOTE]They do often get confused when saying the numbers but not when it comes to using them. In my 5 plus years of coming here, I've yet to have someone give me the wrong amout of change. In my favor. If there is one thing the Viet people know, it's money and numbers.
To be honest, I do the same thing sometimes when talking about money in Viet.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1099190]At Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'and Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.
Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.
JD[/QUOTE]Went out and about yesterday and, sure enough, Khai Hoan is exactly as advertised. For those looking, there are a lots of green signs along Nguyen Thi Thap street since that whole stretch of road is a absolute riot of shops selling a wide variety of things, mainly home construction goods such as granite and the like. The number for Khai Hoan is 261.
Had a nice young girl named Trang. 21, from Dong Nai province. She's been in HCMC about three years. Very small in the chest and limited in terms of talent. What she lacked in talent, she made up for in terms of good attitude and sticking with the task at hand. Not like others who get all whiny when you don't finish in 2. 3 seconds. She gave me a big smile and a hug when we were leaving the room and was fine when I paid the 200k at the desk on the way out.
All in all, well worth the trip out to D7. Thanks, JD!
592/5 Cong Hoa P13 Tan Binh.
I have seen and passed this MP numerous times. Its located next to the Sapaco Bus Terminal (the bus to Cambodia) in Tan Binh.
I paid the 80k ticket, entered the change room. Theres an attendant who will stick to you unfortunately (the type that wants a tip for putting a key in a lock and turning it etc) I waved him off and put my clothes in the locker, my valuables in the plastic zip bag and locked my locker.
I went into the steambath and it was nothing special. There is a large footbath with polished smooth river stones in some medicated / brownish water, well I hope its medicated haha, Behind that is a jacuzzi and next to the steam room is the dry sauna.
Had a hot shower and put on the supplied shorts and half robe top.
Walked up 2 stories and into a nice dimly lit walled in cubical. The entry door had the top section of the window clear with the usual frosting 3/4 the way down.
The girl who arrived was a stunning 20yr old. She didn't say much, neither did I but she had the most lovely touch. She gave me a nicely oiled up back massage, legs etc.
I flipped over and she did my head, arms / hands and then my legs. After she finnished with my legs she stood there and barely touched my nipple. Just enough to know she was touching it but not enough to feel something. It was more to do with my imagination than anything else and soon I had sprung up to attention.
She helped slide my shorts down and put a towel over my stomach. I had a chance to feel around and I did. I think she was on her rags as I felt something like a pad in her panties. She pulled her shirt up a bit, put my hand up inside and helped move her bra enough for me to get my hand inside.
I played with her nipples and her tiny titty.
She was smiling through out the whole time she was stroking me.
Soon enough I blew my load and she kept stroking, Even after I had gone soft she gave the old fella a bit of a massage still.
After that she wiped me down and cleaned her hands, got my shorts back up and I sat up while she massaged my back / shoulders and gave me some nice hugs from behind.
I tipped her 100k and told her happy new yr.
Nice place, Plenty of attendants, perhaps too many as they all start wanting tips for doing things I've been doing for myself since I can remember.
If your out that way then go check it out.
Total 180k.
Does Khai Hoan, Benny or My Tien have showers? I plan to visit but would feel more comfortable to get my sweat of first.
What is Eros Cafe and Cafe Boulevard a bit further down the road from Benny?
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1109257]Does Khai Hoan, Benny or My Tien have showers? I plan to visit but would feel more comfortable to get my sweat of first.[/QUOTE]I've never been offered one, and I'd really doubt if any of them did. It's not a MP.
I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1111840]I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.
JD[/QUOTE]The Report was OK. But when you don't find it what can I do?
Anh Chi 2 at Su Van Hanh, District 10 just got busted on the spot with 2 Vietnamese pair the other day as reported in the local newspaper.
The Communist Party Congress is on as you're seeing this and there might be some crack down at selective place, just for the sake of it.
Also, as Lunar New Year fast approaching, many ladies now heading back to their home town, and the supply might be limited at some places. I noticed Benny currently closed for renovation, however, Khanh Linh down the road is picking up it's spill and quite busy.
Business as usuall at NPK.
Went at about 5. 30pm today. I'd previously used this place a couple of times a couple of years back. Same inside. Outside just a bloke sitting on a chair, but girls in the door way.
As I went in, a girl started speaking English to me. I replied in Vietnamese. She told me VND100, 000 which I gave to the woman at the till. 3 or 4 girls were milling around. One took me to the cubicle but there was another girl sleeping inside who sprung to life. She was Ha&768; . She looked fine to me and the other girls backed off. It seemed they were happy for me to pick, but I was happy with the default. As I settled down she fiddled around with her mobile a bit which was annoying. She also was keen to speak English, but wasn't very good. She said "you want ken, yes". A little pushy. I didn't want a "ken" but was thirsty so asked for a 7-UP. No 7-UP so I asked for water. She returned with 7-UP, nice and cool. She then suggested I buy one for her. Not sure if she was joking but she didn't push it. Trousers down. She gave me a good wipe. In fact it left me a bit raw. Boobs out. She played with my nipples then licked whilst her hand started to work. She had nice boobs with slightly pointy nipples. Told me she was 27 which I believe. HJ, BBBJ. Lots of sucking and great enthusiasm. 10/10 for effort but I was kinda distracted. I'm sure CIM would have been possible but I finished with HJ. Got some good fingering in downstairs. She helped by pulling her knickers down a bit and parting her legs.
I sat up, she was keen to do a bit of back massage and remind me of her name and that I should ask for her. Her English was not bad, a foreigner would find this useful. But we switched to Vietnamese. I asked her if many foreigners came there. She said many every day. I got ready to go. She told me VND20, 000 for the 7-UP. I gave her this and VND100, 000. She said it was too little. I said I knew it was standard. She asked for another VND50, 000. I refused, but did hesitate. I'm often inclined to give a little extra if someone comes out with good English where I don't expect it (eg taxi drivers). Anyway she didn't push it but she wasn't all smiles. As I left a couple of other girls said come back soon.
I feel this place is veering toward being a foreigner place. I don't remember any English on my visits ages ago. Seems a few of the girls have English and many foreigners go there now. I disliked the slight push for a drink and then the slight haggle at the end, but overall job done for VND200, 000.
[QUOTE=Ngu Ngon; 1112073]I feel this place is veering toward being a foreigner place. I don't remember any English on my visits ages ago. Seems a few of the girls have English and many foreigners go there now. I disliked the slight push for a drink and then the slight haggle at the end, but overall job done for VND200, 000. [/QUOTE.
When I went to My Tien the girl wanted extra money too. That crap's annoying. And the 20, 000 drink. Benny's charges the same amount. I was surprised at the price. But at Benny's nobody's ever asked me for more than 200, 000. On the other hand. Some of the girls at Benny's don't allow fingering.
200, 000 is enough. And if I'm thirsty I'll go to a cafe before I go to the Hot Toc. It's difficult to enjoy a drink while your on your back.
Hello, Spa is a fuck shop. I've had a couple of girls there. Kind of cute but nothing spectacular. One girl named Huu is pretty keen, but none of them are particularly great. Massage first and then they ask if you want a fuck. Most of the girls I've had didn't ask for a particular amount of money, although one girl did ask for a million. The rooms are quiet and private, but they have standard sized massage tables, so not really comfortable for certain things. Had one girl there last year who had the best looking ass I've ever pumped. Really nice with a great pair of legs. I think her name was Thanh. Anyhow, the place is big with the local Koreans, so there isn't usually a big selection of girls waiting in the lobby. It's generally pretty quiet during the week. I might go there this week and check things out again, so I'll let you know if anything has changed.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1111840]I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.
JD[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report Big Guy,
About money, you said only one girl asked for money and it was a million. How much have you given the girls the other times you have been there? I see the ticket downstairs is 200k.
JD
I was curious to count how many Hot Toc, Cat Toc, Blow Job massage places, and also how many Xong Hoi Xoa Bop (steambath and massage) places I could spot along a certain stretch of roads in District 7. Because the shops have small entrances and because the streets are so crowded in the daytime, it's often difficult to see any at all! People and shops and their wares are all over the street and the traffic is heavy, so not easy to see them. I decided to wait till around 9:30 PM when most other businesses are closed, but these are still open.
The road (s) in question are Le Van Luong St going south from 15 St. To Nguyen Thi Thap St, then heading east on that street till Tan My. I counted 12 Barbershp, Hot Toc, Cat Toc Blow Job places and six Xong Hoi Xoa Bop places in all. The BJ places all offer BBBJ with CIM and some degree of nudity and unlimited hand and finger roaming for a flat 200k including everything for 15-30 minutes. The Xong Hoi places do not offer sex, but many of the massage girls are young and often cute and will ask you if you want a hand job around 40 or 50 mins into a one hour massage. Before the massage there is an herbal steambath and often a dry sauna as well. Ticket prices are cheap at 50-80k only and you can tip the girl 50k or maybe more if she does the hand job well and you like her. I usually put another 10k in the basket for the boys in the locker room. I prefer these xong hoi xoa bop places after a CIM BJ and I decline the HJ as I am already fully relaxed. The massage is much better in my opinion if you have just cum already. Also, I instruct the girl as to what kind of massage I like which usually includes a lot of neck and shoulder and some back work. Little on the extremities and no jumping on me or cracking or twisting my fingers or toes.
I found the people at Vinh Thinh Xong Hoi Xoa Bop to be friendly. It's quite crowded at night but not so in the afternoon. Ticket is only 60k and I was surprised by the youth and cuteness of my rather large breasted massage girl from Tra Vinh. Forty minutes in she asked me if I'd be wanting a handjob, to which I replied 'do you want to give me a handjob? ' She said it was up to me. I asked if she likes doing handjobs and she replied that she does not, but that customers often want it so management tells her to offer it under the towel. I told her I like it by mouth and hand only and she said they can not, and she does not do that. A nice girl, real pretty, No English of course. Her smooth, cool, bare legs sitting on my back and ass felt good.
JD
I visited Lucky Spa this evening. There was an attractive crop of young attendants. I wasn't too disappointed with the young lady whose turn it was for me.
I was offered and accepted a shower following which I took my place on the ground level bed.
The massage was decent and passable. Several times I tried to reach for my attendant but I was rebuked.
At finish time I pointed to her mouth and she proceeded with a BBBJ. There was no money discussed or offered. I tried to take it to the next level but was declined.
Things became a bit messy at pay-time. They insisted that the 200, 000 ticket was just for the house. There should be another 500, 000 for the girl. I didn't have that kind of money, so they said to pay her next time.
As I was leaving I talked to another western patron who also on his way out and asked him for his advice. He confirmed it. If the lady gives good service he pays 300 for baby massage. 500 for BJ and 1 million for FS. I was shocked.
So there you have it folks. Is it fact or fiction? Or is this a case of another da_n foreigner ruinging the market for others.
[QUOTE=Cappy; 1114566]I visited Lucky Spa this evening. There was an attractive crop of young attendants. I wasn't too disappointed with the young lady whose turn it was for me.
I was offered and accepted a shower following which I took my place on the ground level bed.
The massage was decent and passable. Several times I tried to reach for my attendant but I was rebuked.
At finish time I pointed to her mouth and she proceeded with a BBBJ. There was no money discussed or offered. I tried to take it to the next level but was declined.
Things became a bit messy at pay-time. They insisted that the 200, 000 ticket was just for the house. There should be another 500, 000 for the girl. I didn't have that kind of money, so they said to pay her next time.
As I was leaving I talked to another western patron who also on his way out and asked him for his advice. He confirmed it. If the lady gives good service he pays 300 for baby massage. 500 for BJ and 1 million for FS. I was shocked.
So there you have it folks. Is it fact or fiction? Or is this a case of another da_n foreigner ruinging the market for others. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your report Cappy. Certainly you did not think that the 200k at the desk was for the girl and the house, did you? This is a villa in a residential area of Phu My Hung and includes 1 hour of the girl's time, a bed, a shower. The hole in the wall places where you pay 200k all done are just pull down your pants and get it done in 15-20 min type of places. You can find lots of them on Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7, Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1 and Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.
Curious though, she would not get naked and did not accept full sex, even though the guy you met on the way out said it was a 300-500-1 mil deal? Anyone else have a report from Lucky or Hello, (Mai Mai) on HG2?
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1114021]Thanks for the report Big Guy,
About money, you said only one girl asked for money and it was a million. How much have you given the girls the other times you have been there? I see the ticket downstairs is 200k.
JD[/QUOTE]I usually just give them 200, 000. Sometimes I get a frown, but they always seem willing when I go back.
You're right, now I'm embarassed. I had a hard time reconciling the rate / service difference between the two.
I'm more accustomed to the rates in S. China. But this isn't China. And it's certaiinly affordable.
I had an earlier report from my opening visits to Welcome Spa and Khai Hoan. It doesn't appear to have remained up. I will try to repost.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1114712]Thanks for your report Cappy. Certainly you did not think that the 200k at the desk was for the girl and the house, did you? This is a villa in a residential area of Phu My Hung and includes 1 hour of the girl's time, a bed, a shower. The hole in the wall places where you pay 200k all done are just pull down your pants and get it done in 15-20 min type of places. You can find lots of them on Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7, Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1 and Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.
Curious though, she would not get naked and did not accept full sex, even though the guy you met on the way out said it was a 300-500-1 mil deal? Anyone else have a report from Lucky or Hello, (Mai Mai) on HG2?
JD[/QUOTE]
with thanks to the members who pm'ed and public thread posts.
i will share a report about my initial visits to:
1. welcome spa. very close to lucky and hello, spa. but sorry i didn't write down address. my very attractive attendant provided a decent massage. very quiet, no eye contact or smiling. at the conclusion, she requested 300, 000 for a hj. we settled on 200, 000.
i felt like she was too attractive. too full of herself. and could've had better service. the beatuful ones unfortunately are too often like this. she did a good job though.
2. khai hoan. once again good directions to this barber shop from the members to this blow and go (glow?) facility. i was led to my stall at which point my attendant helped me shed my clothes and then peeled out of hers.
the first thing she wanted to know was how i knew about them. yeah right, like i was going to tell her about isg.
the service was poor, i'm sorry to say. very perfunctory bj followed by whing that i need to come. i paid my 200, 000 ticket fee with nothing extra for service. i think i'll reserve judgement on this one. she did allow fondling but no reciprocal action.
i kept asking her for sex to which put on a cross face and yelled me no. police! the pair in the cubicle next to meet were going at it hot and heavy. so, obviously it's available, probably for establshed customers.
Lucky, Hello, and Welcome Spa aren't the only body rub shops in the Hung Gia streets district. It looks like those fortunate Korean men have many places to choose from. And I'm sure that there are even more businesses operating under deeper cover in less obvious places.
I decided to make the rounds last night and checked out these three, all within blocks of each other.
My Man, R4. 36 Hung Gia 5 St.
Yen Spa, R4 – 63 Hung Gia 5 St.
Queen Spa, R4 – 15 Hung Gia 2 St.
The quality of each was decent. I checked with each one and they all confirmed to the same 300/500/1million vnd format. Entry ticket is between 180-200, 000 vnd.
A girl whose turn it is greets you upon arrival. Or you can have a seat and you can ask to see the rest of the ladies. From their standing positions and expressions on faces, it's pretty easy to tell who is interested or not.
Lucky Spa still seems to be the busiest and the best overall value and attendant quality. Their ticket cost is the highest, but the boss offers a buy 10 get one session free pass. She lured back with a free mandarin orange. It worked. One wonders how soon before they are going to sell fixed price monthly memberships.
In addition to the 6 identified above there are a number of other legit places where the ticket is 150, 000vnd. The rooms tend to be more public. Here you get 90 minutes of foot and back massage (stones, etc) with what's usually a very cute lady. So far, I haven't been able to get any more. It sure would be nice to be able to speak a few more languages.
[QUOTE=Johndao;1099190]At Khai Hoan Blow 'n Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'n Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.[/QUOTE]I also just gave this a try. I'm surprised I've never been to it before as I have been up and down that road and visited many of the BnG shops there. When I went there was, what seemed like, a tour bus dropping off customers to the shop. There were about 20 xe om drivers and a bunch of tourists. I pulled in, parked the bike and walked in. I was asked to wait for an available girl / stall, not sure which. After about five minutes a cute young thing came out from the back and they asked for the money up front. They quoted me $20 USD. I didn't quiet here well enough and I proceeded to give them 200k VND. When I realized they were still waiting for more money, I asked whats wrong. They said "400k please, or $20 USD, prefer USD not VND." I was real surprised. I asked why is it 400k instead of 200k like before. They said that tourists pay 400k, always. So I grabbed my money out of the guys hand, said a few choice words in Vietnamese and walked away. As I turned he asked how do I know this place and some other stuff in VNese. We ended up having a small chit-chat and he realized I wasn't apart of the motorbike entourage. Basically, if you take a xe om or taxi to his shop, it costs 400k because they have to give a percentage to the driver.
After I get through to the back, everything else went accordingly. Stripped down to nothing, got cleaned up, enjoyed wonderful views and positions. The only thing I didn't get was the body to body rub. My girl was a great performer all the way til the end and more. She was a real cutie. She also spoke really good English, I wasn't expecting that as most girls on this street know close to nothing of English. Afterward, she attempted to give me a back massage, which was not of top-notch quality, but no complaints either.
Hi All.
Can anyone please tell me when massage venues (DBP, NBK etc) generally close? Midnight? Earlier?
Thanks!
BS.
Thanks for post, AH45:
This may explain why, after I walked in, my girl gave me shitty service.
I arrived on my own. Could she have been told to just give the westerner a quick BJ and throw the bum out?
Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45; 1115366]I also just gave this a try. I'm surprised I've never been to it before as I have been up and down that road and visited many of the BnG shops there. When I went there was, what seemed like, a tour bus dropping off customers to the shop. There were about 20 xe om drivers and a bunch of tourists. I pulled in, parked the bike and walked in. I was asked to wait for an available girl / stall, not sure which. After about five minutes a cute young thing came out from the back and they asked for the money up front. They quoted me $20 USD. I didn't quiet here well enough and I proceeded to give them 200k VND. When I realized they were still waiting for more money, I asked whats wrong. They said "400k please, or $20 USD, prefer USD not VND." I was real surprised. I asked why is it 400k instead of 200k like before. They said that tourists pay 400k, always. So I grabbed my money out of the guys hand, said a few choice words in Vietnamese and walked away. As I turned he asked how do I know this place and some other stuff in VNese. We ended up having a small chit-chat and he realized I wasn't apart of the motorbike entourage. Basically, if you take a xe om or taxi to his shop, it costs 400k because they have to give a percentage to the driver.
After I get through to the back, everything else went accordingly. Stripped down to nothing, got cleaned up, enjoyed wonderful views and positions. The only thing I didn't get was the body to body rub. My girl was a great performer all the way til the end and more. She was a real cutie. She also spoke really good English, I wasn't expecting that as most girls on this street know close to nothing of English. Afterward, she attempted to give me a back massage, which was not of top-notch quality, but no complaints either. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cappy; 1115421]Thanks for post, AH45:
Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect. [/QUOTE]Not sure about gaining respect but becoming a regular can have its benefits. Then again after a while the girl / s will get too comfortable and the service will plateau then start to drop.
[QUOTE=B Sahdow; 1115392]Hi All.
Can anyone please tell me when massage venues (DBP, NBK etc) generally close? Midnight? Earlier?
Thanks!
BS. [/QUOTE]Much earlier than midnite! This is not BKK or the PI. They may close at 10 PM at the latest, but I would not go there after 9-9:30 or so.
JD
[QUOTE=Cappy; 1115421]Thanks for post, AH45:
This may explain why, after I walked in, my girl gave me shitty service.
I arrived on my own. Could she have been told to just give the westerner a quick BJ and throw the bum out?
Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect. [/QUOTE]It IS only a place for a quick BJ. 15-20 mins and out the door. Fully naked CIM (usually) BBBJ. Some girls are great, some good, some so-so. What do you expect for $10?
JD
I don't know if my post event can be counted, since I don't exactly know the name of the place I visited. To tell the truth, I can't remember the name!
I wanted a massage, and hailed a taxi and asked him to bring me to a massage parlor. He couldn't speak english. After trying to converse with his other friend, his friend gave him some directions and the taxi driver was bringing me to Bin Thanh district. There were lots of people going to this "Massage / Spa" house, and lots of security guards too. When queuing up for a ticket, I was given the "Super VIP" ticket for 220, 000 dong. And then up the stairs into my own room.
The room was lavish. Large, with its own steam bath and sauna. I changed and went around to play with the facilities. Although of course that wasn't what we came here for. Then came in this cute girl, which is about 6 in looks and 7 for body. She couldn't speak a single word for English, but we managed to gesture what we were here for.
In short, she showers me, cleans me, dries me, and then brings me to the table, leaving me there which so goes clean herself up. When back, proceeds to a BBBJ, and allowing me to touch her tits and finger her from below. No naked stuff no FS, she said something that I think it meant "the people from outside can look in."
Once the job was done, she gave me a good massage rub down the rest of the body, and then I tipped her 100k. She protested for more, but we got to maintain the market value baby! Just tell her "I have no idea what you are talking about!" and walk away.
On my way out, my cab driver was still there waiting for me, and he explained to be the words "Massage" is pronounced as "Xoa Bop" (Sua Bop)."SPA" is "Xiong Hoa" (Seong Hwa). So if you need just tell the driver "Sua Bop"!
So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.
Now, I know these guys are basically all crooked and will take me for anything I'm worth, so I try to control the situation. He says "pay whatever you want at the end", I know this is a trap and confirm prices are the start. He says he knows a "massa" place, and makes the BJ motion. He says this will be 200k.
Oh what a fool I am. Sometimes you just know when your thought process changes from north to south, and in VN that can be pricey.
He takes me to a place that I believe was in D7 from signs on the surrounding shops. Didn't appear to have a name sign out front, but to be fair, I had started drinking at 10am and wasn't really paying attention.
The place itself is pretty much what I would of imagined from a blow and go, more then a massage with happy ending. A dark shaded doorway. 5 attractive girls (even the one I believe was the mama was a hotty) on the ground floor. Ticket was 200k and I am led up two flights of stairs to a room with three massage tables. While the girl I thought was going to massage me starts helping me undress, a second girl comes in. It was apparently a two girl massage. To be honest, they were both hot and I had never had this before, so I rolled with it.
The first big WTF moment was when I went to take off my pants. In a massage joint, I would normally go down to my boxers. They said no and I jumped on the table still wearing pants. The massage at the start never really happened, they unbottoned my jeans and went straight for my jewels. Once that was out, one started working down stairs and the other occupied me upstairs (nipples, neck etc).
Then they drop the price. Now, I'll preface this: I know I did bad. Noone needs to tell be how bad this was, I'm aware. 1.6M VND for both girls and multiple blows. Oh crapfuckit. I counter with 1M and after what seemed like an eternity of teasing and pleading from them (jesus christ it's hard to negotiate with your jewels in someones hand) we settle on 1. 2M. I KNOW! I'm ruining the economy, I overpaid hugely and the worst part: I knew I should not have gone with the cyclo as those rides NEVER end well.
They begin and yes, it was actually one of the better blowjobs I've had. Had full access to both of them (they wern't exactly helpful ie. Moving bras, but I just dove in with it and had some fun with it.). Long blowjob followed by a truely horrible massage (I mean, I'm still wearing pants) and then another blowjob.
The only redeaming factor was the satisfaction of watching my massueses argue when the one blowing me went to finish with HJ, and misjudged the angle. A nice whack of my goop went into the hair of the one sucking on my nipples. She wasn't happy about it.
The moral of this story is to maintain thinking with you head in VN.
Hopefully my next report is more positive.
BS.
[QUOTE=B Sahdow;1116144]So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this hysterically funny report. It reminds me of the one by the guy who went with the girl far away to a hotel, then knew there was somebody else in the room stealing his wallet, but he didn't want to turn around because he was enjoying his massage or he did not want to interrupt them or something. That guy got a lot of satisfaction from not paying the girl or the hotel as he had no more money. He really showed them, he felt.
As one who read the Forum and knew that a sure thing, safe, easy. 200k CIM BBBJ was available to you only a short taxi ride away at Bennys, it's hard to understand why you paid 1. 4m for the same. Nothing to do with thinking down rather than up. More like not thinking at all. But then again, you were drunk in the middle of the day.
JD
[QUOTE=B Sahdow; 1116144]So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.
He takes me to a place that I believe was in D7 from signs on the surrounding shops. Didn't appear to have a name sign out front, but to be fair, I had started drinking at 10am and wasn't really paying attention. [/QUOTE]You mean a xe-om (motorbike taxi) rider. I doubt it was a [i]cyclo[/i] That took you 8-10 km from the centre of D1 to D7 unless he had mechanized legs.
To put things further in perspective, you paid a little more than half the average monthly wages of a restaurant server to these 2 girls for your 'small punt'. In US terms, if a restaurant server makes USD 8 / hr excluding tips, thats 8 x 40 x 4 = USD 1280 a month, excluding tips. In other words, its like you paying USD 700 for a tandem BJ in the US. Try that for size, redeeming factor or not.
[QUOTE=B Sahdow; 1116144]The moral of this story is to maintain thinking with you head in VN.
Hopefully my next report is more positive.
BS. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the delightful report, Makes a change reading normal reports, even though you know you overpaid you still decided to post up here knowing you will get flamed, I say good on ya. I appreciate your honesty.
I'm sure we've all overpaid or over indulged at some point in time, Hopefully we learn from it and move on.
I'm sure you tipped the girls extra as Tet is approaching hehehe.
Yes you have to keep your wits about you especially in VN where the attractions for mongering are more subtle than say Tld, Indo, Phils etc. Due to the secrecy of the business there are far too many unscrupulous ripoff merchants operating on the unassuming (and assuming) public.
I can't wait to read your next report
Here's a article from the online rag.
[url]http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/Social-Isssues/208049/Massage-parlour-chain-boss-jailed.html[/url]
First thank you to Johndao for putting the location on this board. As I read some similarities to my own expieriences here let me submit a detailed report of what happended there.
I first visited the place in December, upon entry a girl walked up to me and said; ticket is 300. 000, I just ignored here walked up to the Papasan and gave him 200. 000, upon which he nodded to the girl and off we went to the back, not the cubines on the right which have big tables as described by Johndao, but back left the cubines and tables are very small. I want good service, so whenever I take a girl I tell her here is a 100. 000 tip for you, up to you, do as I ask you, give good service make me happy, the tip is yours, not good it stays with me. Never have been disappionted. The service here at Khai Hoan was tops. However the girl was EXTREMELY curious how I had found the place, so just told here I was wandering around in the area looking to rent a house and in passing her place I had just; smelled; girls were inside. She just smiled.
Last Saturday went there again, upon entry was met by 5 male hustlers who were wandering around there asking what I wanted, told them it was not there business and to fuck off, then put by ass down in the black sofa opposite the Papasan, these nice boys came standing in front of me, asking I wanted BJ, told them no I come here for foot massage, upon one of them started running to the door.
Got my ass up and gave the Papasan 200. 000, which he straight threw back at me, pointed his finger at a book where was written dollar 25, I told him no. He started shouting to me to get out. I asked him quitly what the problem was.during all of this, including the hustlers, I never raised my voice-, he again said you pay dollar 25, I told him this was not going to happen, upon a few of these bumsters came to close to me for me liking so I gently but with force pushed them off, they said Tet is coming blablablablabla, anyway I had to give in and add another 100. 000 because this situation could not continue, it would end badly, maybe for me, but sure for some of them. (at nearly 2 meter and 250 pound I am no pushover)
Service was again impeccable. Then the girl told me that there are at least a dozen other of these places in the same street with the difference they take not off their clothes like in Khai Hoan.
Went there again last Tuesday, Papasan was not there, anyway not to be seen, nor were there any hustlers except for one male; guard kind of; who was sitting there in not to clean clothes and was very kind to me, just took a girl and went to the back, straight into the cubs with the big table, again very very good service, upon leaving she just said to me give 200. 000 to her (one of the olders girls inside) , and moved my ass out of there.
So, in conclusion, clearly they are asking themselves questions where all these white foreigners are suddenly coming from, walking in their place. Let us try to stand our ground on the prices, otherwise.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1117246]Last Saturday went there again, upon entry was met by 5 male hustlers who were wandering around there asking what I wanted, told them it was not there business and to fuck off, then put by ass down in the black sofa opposite the Papasan, these nice boys came standing in front of me, asking I wanted BJ, told them no I come here for foot massage, upon one of them started running to the door.
So, in conclusion, clearly they are asking themselves questions where all these white foreigners are suddenly coming from, walking in their place. Let us try to stand our ground on the prices, otherwise. [/QUOTE]As I reported earlier, I had a very similar experience a few weeks ago. When I was there there were tons of hustlers and xe om drivers around. The girl also asked me a few times, how did I know the place and who told me. I always just say,"a friend of mine told me"/"ban cua anh". Usually that shuts them right up. I'm not sure sure if these "xe om parties" that come out there are from this forum or another, or how they know of these places. BUT, to me it sounds like, those guys are all hired by the management to seek out tourists and if you look the part they will do what they can to grab a little extra money. In my experience, if they (in the past and the future) try to make me pay higher than normal. I just kindly (in vietnamese) so no thanks, because there are plenty more shops on this street. I've even grabbed my money out of that Papasan's hands in the past and made my way to the door, even with tons a "security guards" surrounding me. 100% of the time before I can complete my 4th step towards the door, they come out with apologize and escort me to the back, of course after paying the correct amount.
Tet is here, so maybe that is giving the old man an additional reason to charge higher. I wonder if he has increased prices for everyone, not just tourists.
Tet is here, so maybe that is giving the old man an additional reason to charge higher. I wonder if he has increased prices for everyone, not just tourists. [/QUOTE]No, there is no increase in price, the 100. 000 extra I just offered him to get him pull back, I simply did not want to do the effort to walk to the next one as I was after a particular girl inside the place. He did not ask for it, he wanted $25, but he took it. But if he had not accepted the 300. 000 would have taken it and walk out, for sure, that was it, no more, otherwise we spoil all pricing for each of us.
The next time I was there after this incident paid 200. 000 ticket AFTER finishing the girl, that was paid to another older (working) girl inside as the Papasan was not there, nor were there hustlers.
And for sure you can fuck them as well, if not on the premises then outside, no problem at all. And this I can tell you as a certainty.
On a side, anybody interested in forming a group? Doing our; walks; with 3 or more is so much more fun (and safety) then the lone ranger. Any suggestions / ideas?
Paid a visit to both these places in the past week. First off, props to those who have posted before—without you, I never would've known where to begin. First up was My Tien. Went in at about 930pm. Three girls on offer, all about the same in looks, so I just went with the girl whose turn it was—mamasan assured me she was 'very good'. Paid 100K to the house and we went to a very small back room with two tables divided by a partition. I don't know why earlier posts report of being led upstairs. I saw nothing that resembled a stairway.
My experience here was mediocre. The lady looked to be in her early 30s. As soon as we got in the room, it was all business. Not even a half-assed attempt at massage, just a quick face wash, a wipe of the nasty bits, and she was off to the races. She pulled down her top and hiked down her panties allowing me full access. Decent tits, nice long nipples. But it was obvious she was trying to finish the job as quickly as possible. I was the only person there and maybe they wanted to close up, but still. Her technique was ok, but too rushed for my liking. After the inevitable, another quick scrub and that was that. I tipped her 100K, but she tried to get more. For that level of perfunctory service? Not a chance. I walked on out into the night.
After that experience, I honestly wasn't all too keen on visiting a hot toc again. But I decided to check out Ben Ny. I arrived at about 800pm. I went inside and was immediately greeted by a petite lady, again early 30s, who appeared to have very nice curves. I gave 100K to the papasan, and she took me into the back room filled with reclined barber chairs. There were a few Vietnamese guys there as well. She then proceeded to wash my face and give a half-hearted massage. Her hands and skin felt very soft—so I took this as a good sign. After five minutes or so of this, she motioned into a small cube directly behind my chair. After closing the door and turning on the fan, she motioned for me to unbutton my shirt and hitch down my pants. For her part, she hiked up her skirt and popped out her tits. For such a slight lady, what lovely, luscious tits they were! All natural. Very small areolas. She rubbed all over me, licking all the way. I have to say, her skin smelled fabulous. This went on for several minutes. I groped her entire body as much as she would permit. She would emit these curious bark-like cries when I went too far. Did I mention her wonderful tits? I tried to initiate a titty fuck, but she would have none of it. She spent a lot of time licking my balls, which I really like, and she was quite skilled at playing around the entire shaft and head area—again another favorite of mine.
When the moment of truth finally arrived, she hunkered down and made sure to drain me of every drop. As you can probably guess, this was a vastly better experience. After clean up, some small talk, and feeling up her superb tits as much as I could, it was time to go. I gave her 100K, which she took very graciously. She did not even try to plead for more. But based on that encounter, I almost wish I had given her another 50K. She led me out into the lobby area arm-in-arm. We passed by several other quite attractive ladies, though not as young as other reports suggest. No early 20s—most appeared late 20s and older.
Bottom line: I might consider giving My Tien another try, if it were the only place in the area, but after the level of service I enjoyed at Ben Ny, they have earned my business whenever I am in the DPP area. It was no contest. I could easily see making that lady at Ben Ny a regular, and if I lived in HCMC, I probably would. I do plan to hit Ben Ny on my next trip and I hope she's still there.
I decided to stay at Vien Dong Hotel which is in district 1, near Ben Thanh Market. The reviews for the hotel online were pretty good, and the price wasn't too bad. After checkout the door man mentioned the spa to me and talked about getting a HJ in there, pretty sweet setup having a spa that stays open till 1am IN your hotel. Well after exploring the city a bit I headed back to the hotel's spa. Took the regular massage ticket which was 180k, this spa is a pretty sweet setup. You get a sauna, steamroom, hotub, and a table shower if you want. Decided to try a little bit of each, the only werid thing was when I was finished with the hot tub, one of the employees asked if I wanted to shower up. I said sure and then he lead me to the table shower room, ok normally I like table showers but when he told me to lay down I was expecting a girl to come in and do the table shower, NOPE it was HIM. Good thing he didn't scrub my bits or anything but still it was definitely a werid experience.
Once that was done, I was lead to a lounge room where you can get foot massage if you want. I decided to go straight to the massage, as I was getting lead to my room I could get a look inside each room with clients. I got to say most of the girls were pretty damn cute. The girl I pulled was sweet as hell, and had super soft skin. The massage was great, but the ending was the best I had in Vietnam, she did NOT ask for any kind of money at all, just after the deed she gave a sheet that I wrote the tip on. I know most guys on here don't like HJ's that much but I personally really enjoy them if done right, sure I rather have a BJ but HJ is right up there too. LOL
After another morning massage at my Hotel, Vien Dong. I decided to check out Ben Ny, but when I pulled up it was completely closed, unless there is some back entrance or something. I saw My Tien was open before pulling up to Ben Ny's so I decided to give that place a try. I walked in and the lady said it was 90k, then a girl followed me up. She was pretty cute, except her teeth. Once up in the room, I got about a 1 minute massage followed by her pulling down my shorts and starting a BBBJ, followed by CIM. As I was leaving, I gave the girl a tip of 100K based on the forum. The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.
[QUOTE=************;1120670]The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.[/QUOTE]Any reason to try and rip customers off.
I had the same BS when I went to a new MP. Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.
[QUOTE=************;1120670]a BBBJ, followed by CIM. As I was leaving, I gave the girl a tip of 100K based on the forum. The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.[/QUOTE]Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.
Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.
Ozirob
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1120671]Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear. Any monger coming to Vietnam for sex needs to seriously reconsider that decision. This is without a doubt the biggest hall of mirrors, unsatisfying mongering destination in Asia.
[QUOTE=Ozirob; 1120830]If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.
Ozirob[/QUOTE]Why should I tip more then the standard just because it is Tet? EVERYWHERE I have gone, EVERYONE has asked for more just because it was Tet.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1120671]Any reason to try and rip customers off.
I had the same BS when I went to a new MP. Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.[/QUOTE]While this is probably the truth, I've been a little generous with my service tips (in general, not just p4p) for tet. Ie. Leaving a 50k tip for the room cleaners. I figure, if they're missing out on the celebrations because they work in tourism / hospitality, they deserve a nice tip (obviously, the service still has to be up to snuff).
That being said, from what I'm aware, tet lasts for three days and that finished up on the weekend. Not sure why you'd have to give a tet-sized tip when it's. Not. Tet. Anymore.
[QUOTE=************;1120670]After another morning massage at my Hotel, Vien Dong. I decided to check out Ben Ny, but when I pulled up it was completely closed, unless there is some back entrance or something.[/QUOTE]Can confirm Bennys was in fact open today.
Now, for my report on this fine establishment:
So I'm not the biggest fan of telling moto drivers exactly where I'm going, if it's for punting purposes. Conveniently, the Jade Emporor Pagoda is close to put up a plausible justification for going to that end of DPB. Call this needless parania, but the point is, crossing a busy road like DPB sucks and I'm glad that it was not for naught.
I go into Bennys and the mamasan waves me off saying "3 min come back", well, whatever I'll go have a smoke. I don't even make it to the door before I get called back. Now. There was not a word spoken in english from any service provider to me, so when asked something I could only shrug and go by what I was expecting and the retarded sign language all travelers know.
I am led by a very pretty lass to the head massage/"we'll pretend to be a legitimate venue for a minute before getting to what you and we know you're here for" area. She again starts saying something to be in Viet. I can only shrug, she tries repeating while I shrug helplessly before a very helpful Viet gentleman provides some much needed translation services."She is offering you a drink","she say because the place is busy. 120k up front". I pay, somewhat confused as earlier reports stated that all payment was after services rendered, but whatever. I'm here to see where this goes.
Aside, from vising other establisments at home and abroad, I had always previously treated brothels the same way I treat mens rooms. Under no circumstance should you communicate with another male within those walls. We all know exactly what we're all there for, and the less said the better. I don't exactly have any punting friends, and now do I really want any, but GOD DAMN. Without that elderly gentleman assisting in translation, misunderstandings could have occured.
After the pretend massage, I am lead to the private stalls. Now, on one hand I'm happy before well. I'm about to get a blowjob from a very attractive viet. I'm also part dissapointed that it's another massage bed. I had kind of hoped to be in a sitting position, ie a chair. I could go into why I'd prefer this, but that's not required for this exact report. Either way, I do find it amusing that the way the room is set up is perfect for either a) hair washing or be) a place for a women to spit and wash her mouth out after recieving a big load. Will have to look over the hair dressers at home more closely.
The servicing itself was absolutely top notch. I was tired for an overnight trip, and a little drunk after a lunch with some expats I had met over tet and to be honest I was curious to see if I would be able to cum. The token nipple sucking and ball licking always appreciated before a solid blowjob. When I was not blowing from the first roung, she kicked it into overdrive and THAR SHE BLOWS.
Cue the wipe off, pants back on, and drop 100k as I walk out the door.
This certainly is a quality establishment, and far more formalised then I had imagined from reports. Next on my agenda is the neighbouring establishment at No. 90.
[QUOTE=Ozirob; 1120830]Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.
Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.
Ozirob[/QUOTE]Try living here for a couple yrs and see how quickly you get fed up with the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor service and over the top tip / price expectations.
You can't help but make a generalization from the experience you get here, Shit service with expectant champagne prices.
Tet is just another excuse the greedy shop owners use as a ploy to get you to part with more of your money. Ask the shop owner / whoever asks you for a Tet tip next time how much they gave their staff as a Tet bonus? Chances are it won't be as much as they are asking you.
Poly. I hear you there, VN is shit for mongering.
[QUOTE=B Sahdow;1121041]"She is offering you a drink","she say because the place is busy. 120k up front".[/QUOTE]Did this 120k include the drink? Ie 20k for a drink.
Due to the seemingly popularity of these B&G's I wonder before the ticket price will be increased. Wouldn't suprise me at all if the price goes up to 150k soon.
In Vung Tau most MP's are 180k / USD$10 ticket, from the massage only wearing a robe, shorts to the FSMP's.
Ben Ny is indeed open again, thank god. I think the service and looks of the girls here are wayyyyy better then My Tien. When you guys go there do you go with the girl they give you or ask for a different girl? The girl I pulled yesterday was pretty average looking, I saw a few other girls but they were busy eating. Is it rude to decline the 1st girl and ask for one you really want?
As for the service, it was 10x better then My Tien. Two things stood out though, the girl spent ALONG time cleaning down below, secondly she would stop mid BBBJ every few minutes to spit into a towel, not exactly a turn on.
First timer report (sorry for long post).
This was last month ago, before leaving out of country. Walking north on the left side of No Trang Long, before the Tran Quy Cap intersection, around 6pm. Can't remember name or number of the hot toc place, but it was the only "uniform" place down the street, with about 4-5 girls and one guy.
Asked about a shampoo and massage and guy said it would be 70. Since this was my second time at a massage hot toc I wasn't very picky of the girl. (I had gone to another one on Su Van Hanh, but didn't know anything about the scene until after we moved away from the area and just got a standard shampoo and massage. Total miss). She was ok, but not super attractive, though she was very friendly, and always hugging. Early 20's.
Started with the shampoo in the midarea of the salon, looked like they could serve 4 customers. At the time, I was the only one. Then moved to the back area, another room, that had 4 massage tables, with curtains (again only one there).
At first, she starts massaging with my shorts on. I asked her if I could remove them, and I left briefs on. (remember. First timer). So she continues to give an ok massage climbing all over. Did allow some touching (took me a while to even get comfortable doing so). As I did, she returned the touch.
At the end, she ask if she could help me. I said how. And she replied "nhe" (soft) , intimating just a HJ. Said that was about all she could do. Of course, I said sure. She pulled out the towelettes as everyone has written about, and starts wiping my chest and ask me to lower the briefs.
She lays beside me and starts the nipple thing, and the HJ.
I didn't last very long, being that this was my first time with a "stranger." (ok you can laugh now). And then she starts wiping up, and went to wash up. I should have laid there to see if she would come back for any more, but I was done and got dressed, and she came back and sat down. I asked who I should pay, and she said either her or upfront.
I pulled out 200 (since I was going by the board max) and didn't have any change. She didn't seem like she was going to give any change, so she hugs me one last time, and says to come back and she walks me out. Sorry for maybe increasing the tip a little. I just didn't have any change (that was the only money I had on me).
You all may have better luck, being veterans or may even decide its not even worth it. Unfortunately, I probably won't be back to VN for a while. (obviously, I'm VK).
Ok, flame the newbie. (and happy tet!)
[QUOTE=D Bronze;1121311]Ok, flame the newbie. (and happy tet!)[/QUOTE]No reason to flame you, Mr. Newbie. Appreciate your post and glad you enjoyed.
Happy New Year.
I had a bad experience here, as you can tell by the title. However, I thought I'd give some background for those of you who might feel differently with the same facts. At least you will have some of the details of the place. The condensed version is immediately below. More lengthly ramblings after that if you have time to waste.
Location: across the Saigon Bridge on the right (as you head out from D1 and Binh Thanh) at the corner of "duong So 2" or street number 2.
Price: 100k regular. 200k VIP. 250k VIP.
Tip: supposedly "100+"
Time: promised 60 mins but probably much much shorter than that. Reading some of the local forums people were complaining as short as 20 mins.
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Not sure why I don't just go to the tried and true places, but I guess it's that nagging curiosity that leads to bad experiences. Phung Thuy is right across the Saigon Bridge on the right at the corner of "duong So 2" or street number 2. It moved to its new location about 2 years ago I'm told by some locals.
First the good news. The VIP rooms are spacious with a bath tub, wet and dry saunas. This was the 250k VIP room. I'm not sure what the 200k VIP room was missing.
The girl at the reception's job is to try to upsell customers probably, because I lingered a bit to see what she told other customers. She keeps trying to upsell the customers by telling them that the higher priced rooms came with higher quality girls. I am always skeptical of such claims, but what the hell I need to satisfy my curiosity and went for the 250 room. Before stopping by I was told that they had different uniform for the different categories of employees, so I thought maybe there might be a segmentation by looks. The front desk girl sold a few people on the VIP rooms by telling them that "you can just tip the girl 100+). So at least the expectations were not high (it did occur to me that she was saying that to get you to buy the VIP room, prepaid, and then let the other girl nag her way up to a higher tip, but it didn't happen).
The truth is that the girls do work in separate areas (at least day at a time, but those tricky operators I'm sure move them around). They all wear the same uniform now. It's an ugly monochrome red with short shorts instead of the pretense of a skirt. I think the fake skirts at other places look better.
I was pretty disappointed at the first girl that came. Old, short, chubby and not even that attractive. I rarely change but this time I asked her to send in someone new. The new one was also not attractive, but tall, but still not a great body compared to the average VN girls riding around. She was immediately friendly, perhaps thinking that I am difficult because I rejected the first one. She tried to joke around and make small talk. I'm still disappointed but it's late and I don't feel like changing again. Plus, the time is 60 mins for the room which means the clock is ticking. More on that later.
After a quick sauna, she dries me off then bathes and shampoos me in the tub. She plays a bit with the important parts but I think really trying to make sure that everything gets cleaned well. Lights go dim, then she starts with a quick back massage. She cracks the back and neck. A few quick squeezes, the cupping slap on the back, and THAT's IT she's done with the back. FLIP. Pulls off the shorts, puts my hand on her ass and breasts to encourage the fondling while she starts licking my chest and works her way down for a BBBJ. Technique is mediocre with more hand than mouth action. She never let on that she was annoyed that I was taking a bit longer than normal. I will give her credit for continuing to work, but she increasingly used more hands. I think CIM is probably possible, but she was mostly taking her M off at that point and I was too lazy or tired to time it right. A bit gets on her face I think but no complaints. Quick clean up and she comes and sits on the table next to me.
I actually thought she would continue to finish the massage during the rest of the time, but No. I flipped back over and asked her to work on my back and shoulders and she complied for a few minutes, then goes and turns the lights on and said time was up. She was nice about it, and if I hadn't looked at the clock at the beginning I might have doubted my sense of timing. But sure enough, it had only been 40 mins. 5 min sauna. 5 min bath, max 5 min massage and 25 mins other services with cleanup. I asked her about this and she said that since I had a short sauna my massage time was over. She said I could sleep the rest of the 20 mins in the room if I wanted.
At this point I was annoyed but I didn't realize how much. I tipped her 100 which she didn't complain, perhaps it was the right amount, perhaps it was be / see she realized I was not happy. When I got to the front desk, I asked the ticket girl about the time and she said that the girls are managed by a different manager so she has nothing to do about it. Such typical VN finger pointing. But she confirmed that it is 60 mins.
I hate how when you ask for the manager whoever you ask starts to speak to you like he is the manager."What can I help you with." I then ask him if he is the manager 2 times, until he finally admits he is not and sends me to another person. That person is this ugly whale of a beoch in the "medical room." She also starts with "is there something I can help you with." Then says she is the manager of the managers. WTF knows if she is really but the white shirted guys running around seemed to look up to her.
She of course claims that you only get 45 minutes and the 15 minutes for sauna. She said I can go back in and sauna for 15 minutes if I'd like. Well this pissed me off be / see no one else said it that way so she must have just pulled it out of that really fat ass of her. I pointed out to her that I was in there for 40 minutes including the sauna and that 40 is less than 45. I guess she was too dumb to make up something that would at least support her case. Well she didn't like that I pointed out her stupidity in front of the staff-and BTW in front of a room full of customers watching TV in the relaxation room. A shouting match ensues between us. The rent-a-security boys run up and try to intimidate me to calm down. I go back into the reception area to ask the girl one more time what is the time for the massage and she again says 60 mins, to the disappointment of the ugly manager.
The bottomline is that they will probably continue to make lots of money with or without my patronage. But hopefully the better customer service places will eventually take away their business. Big big dream. I suggest you take your business elsewhere, but there is enough info here for you to make your own decisions.
[QUOTE=Bespoke;1122594]I had a bad experience here, as you can tell by the title.[/QUOTE]You've pretty much summed up Vietnams mongering experience. Money first, customer happiness dosn't even come into it.
Good on you for standing up to the manager / ess and standing firm. These places will keep making money due to the locals not knowing any better. Its like you don't know what its like if you've never experienced it. Kinda like going to TLD soapie massage or even a normal thai massage compared to the lame halfassed effort you get here.
You can see how much pride and effort the locals put into their work just by looking at the houses they build, door / window frames that are not square, doors that can't open / close due to the frame not aligned, floor tiles not flat / even, door hinges put upside down and riveted in place so you can't remove the door from the hinges etc, Even the locals don't want to buy "Made in VN".
This shows in the "effort" put in by the massage girls. I suppose it may be due to the fact that their clients are so grateful for a girl to give them a bit of attention.
Though due to our curiosity chances are we will keep stumbling onto these places and in the hope of finding a gem in amongst the crap.
They didn't ask for a TET tip aswell did they? Since it was only a few days ago.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1122720]They didn't ask for a TET tip aswell did they? Since it was only a few days ago.[/QUOTE]No, she didn't do that. In fact I think the girl in the room was somewhat contrite, but she didn't really know what to do to improve the situation. (the obvious thing would have been to keep working I guess). I had not shown much anger at that point, only a few annoyed questions.
I blame the management more for allowing it. They get paid no matter what.
It wasn't even about the mongering experience, but I thought at least I would get a decent massage out of it too. That night I think that was more important, and just happened to be near this place so I thought I could get both. Perhaps it's better to split it up into 2 separate activities.
[QUOTE=Bespoke;1123049]It wasn't even about the mongering experience, but I thought at least I would get a decent massage out of it too. That night I think that was more important, and just happened to be near this place so I thought I could get both. Perhaps it's better to split it up into 2 separate activities.[/QUOTE]If you want a decent massage and are willing to travel (not sure where you stay) out to Go Vap, Opposite the Mercedes Benz / Isuzu factory theres a regular / family run type MP I've been going to for almost 2yrs.
I have one girl who massages me, Sometimes she's busy so they let me snooze in the cubicle while waiting for her. No funny stuff (appart from a few cock grabs, slight tickle here and there) but a very strong massage.
If I want to get jerked off with a crap massage then I can go to any number of MP's around. I've been to numerous MP's and yet to find one that has a good massage and ending.
This reminds me about what we say regarding cars. Performance / HP / Kw 0-100kph, Fuel Economy and Reliability. You can pick 2 but can't have all 3.
Good Massage. Good Ending. Good MP.
You can pick 2. Unless you go to TLD then you can certainly have all 3!
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1121070]Try living here for a couple yrs and see how quickly you get fed up with the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor service and over the top tip / price expectations.
Tet is just another excuse the greedy shop owners use as a ploy to get you to part with more of your money. Ask the shop owner / whoever asks you for a Tet tip next time how much they gave their staff as a Tet bonus? Chances are it won't be as much as they are asking you. [/QUOTE]Not sure exactly about these BnG shops, but normally a company will pay their employee 1 months salary bonus for Tet. That is with 90%+ of all domestically owned business in Vietnam. Some companies skip the 1 months bonus and give less, but usually they make it up by giving their employees more time off or 1/2 pay vacation time.
So for the girls and shop owners to ask for a little extra time, I think is in line for Tet. Of course it does get annoying after awhile, but I guess I'm just used to it by now.
Tet is only officially 3 days long, but most of the country will celebrate the new year for about 2 weeks. So even though its was a few days past the official Tet holiday, its still during the festive times.
[QUOTE=Ozirob; 1120830]Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.
Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.
Ozirob[/QUOTE]Yeh, give some more money at Tet, sure. Then maybe on Christmas Day she'll let you fuck her in the ass instead of a BJ. Or maybe she'll give you a freebie on your birthday. Sure, maybe.
Actually I don't do any mongering for a full week before New Year's Eve (Tet) and for 10 full days after. Three weeks total. I actually don't want anybody servicing me during their holy days. It just doesn't seem right, it's not about money.
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1123411]Yeh, give some more money at Tet, sure. Then maybe on Christmas Day she'll let you fuck her in the ass instead of a BJ. Or maybe she'll give you a freebie on your birthday. Sure, maybe.
Actually I don't do any mongering for a full week before New Year's Eve (Tet) and for 10 full days after. Three weeks total. I actually don't want anybody servicing me during their holy days. It just doesn't seem right, it's not about money.
JD[/QUOTE]So John, how do you get your girls to let you fuck them in the ass? Most that I meet don't offer it.
I gave my favorite HJ girl an extra 100, 000 on Christmas eve (she is Catholic). I wasn't around for Tet. But I got her some fancy moisturizer on my travels. I think she'll like that. This girl always makes me happy. That includes her eagerly spreading her cheeks for an anal finger fuck. So I like to be nice to her. My usual tip is the standard 100, 000.
[QUOTE=Milkweed; 1123765]So John, how do you get your girls to let you fuck them in the ass? Most that I meet don't offer it.
I gave my favorite HJ girl an extra 100, 000 on Christmas eve (she is Catholic). I wasn't around for Tet. But I got her some fancy moisturizer on my travels. I think she'll like that. This girl always makes me happy. That includes her eagerly spreading her cheeks for an anal finger fuck. So I like to be nice to her. My usual tip is the standard 100, 000. [/QUOTE]Milkweed, read my post more carefully please.
You gave a Catholic girl an extra 100k for a HJ on Christmas Eve? I don't know what to say."That is mighty Christian of you?" I really don't know what to say or think here.
How do I get them to let me fuck them in the ass? The ones you meet don't 'offer' it? Of course they don't, why would they when you accept that? Anal is not something that is 'on offer'. This is not Bangkok, not the Eden Massage. Anal is something you take, something you do, it will never be offered.
JD
[QUOTE=Adhome01; 1096792]It is safe to asume the girls get STD's from time to time. I know a few massage and bar girls and they don't seem to think it's much of a problem. They really don't seem the understand the seriousness of the different. If you explain the science of it they'll think your making it up and stick to their 'passed down and around beliefs'. The truth is they all get them, as you would expect.
Anyone who has had a long term relationship with a local Viet girl will understand what I'm talking about. [/QUOTE]First post. A big thanks to those who share info or the only places I'd know are the HBT and Vung Tau bars.
I have only been to a be&g twice. Second time was one of the ones on NPK. Pretty sure I got the ugly girl because the ones I saw on the way out were much better looking she did give me a pretty awsome BJ though. Unfortunately she gave me something else as well. Nothing serious, an itch that cleared up with a course of doxycycline. It has been enough to put me off these places for now.
I went into PMH today and decided to take a look at these Korean favored salons and spa's that I have read about on the forum. Walked in, was greeted by two ladies mid 20s, not too bad looking but not stunning either. The first floor looked nice, has a big fish tank in the corner. Went upstairs for a "massage". Entry price was 180k and the structure there is of typical 200/500/1mil. Upon entering the room I was offered a shower. She got the room ready with fresh towels, lighting candles, turning on some music etc. The massage was actually pretty good, not quick either, she took her time. Flipped over, discussed our options, real easy and very friendly atmosphere. Afterwards she continued to do more massage on my back and face.
When time was up she offered another shower, so I took one. As I was showering she offered to help me clean up the oil she used on my back and hard to reach places. Haha. Overall a surprisingly nice and relaxing experience. No rush, clean facilities etc.
Talked with the girl a bit, her English is limited. There are only 2 or 3 girls working there right now as they've only been open a month. Not sure if this will continue or what the deal is with that. Could be difficult trying to book time if it gets busy. I would go back again if I am in the area.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1123781]Milkweed, read my post more carefully please.
You gave a Catholic girl an extra 100k for a HJ on Christmas Eve? I don't know what to say."That is mighty Christian of you?" I really don't know what to say or think here.
JD[/QUOTE]I understood your post. My post was meant to offer a contrast to yours. Of course I don't expect you to say that. I think your statement was meant to be insulting and I didn't expect to be insulted for describing my experience.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1123781]Anal is something you take, something you do, it will never be offered.
JD[/QUOTE]A lot of women say no to anal. That's my experience and I think I'm not alone there.
I have read through a lot of the threads in different areas here. Having just recently arrived in Vietnam and trying to get a feel for the layout again, I noticed that there are whole streets just devoted to one type of item. Such as tile, or curtains, ect. I was wondering if there were any place in HCMC that was our type of "Massage St". A couple years ago, I tried what I thought was Cat Toc st. On Bui Xuan. Or something like that. I was disappointed then.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=IronSparks; 1127002]I have read through a lot of the threads in different areas here. Having just recently arrived in Vietnam and trying to get a feel for the layout again, I noticed that there are whole streets just devoted to one type of item. Such as tile, or curtains, ect. I was wondering if there were any place in HCMC that was our type of "Massage St". A couple years ago, I tried what I thought was Cat Toc st. On Bui Xuan. Or something like that. I was disappointed then.
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]As posted already here in the VN Forum many times:
Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1.
Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7.
Le Van Luong St in D7.
The mid-eastern end of Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.
Dinh Bo Linh St.
This is where you will find 'Blow Job with Cum-in-Mouth' 'Cat Tocs'. The total price is 200k Dong at all.
I assume the reason you were disappointed on Bui Thi Xuan St is because although there are numerous 'Cat Toc' places, they do not offer any sexual service.
JD
Thanks Johndao,
Your reports have certainly provided much information. Thanks for the response. I visited a couple random Goi Dau places on Dinh Bo Linh. All I got was the girl to jump on the table with me, spend some time teasing. I had all access to touch, but was only a HJ. They said no BJ. Was this my luck of the draw or are there magic words?
I did pay 200K to the front desk each time and nothing to the girl though.
[QUOTE=IronSparks; 1128577]Thanks Johndao,
Your reports have certainly provided much information. Thanks for the response. I visited a couple random Goi Dau places on Dinh Bo Linh. All I got was the girl to jump on the table with me, spend some time teasing. I had all access to touch, but was only a HJ. They said no BJ. Was this my luck of the draw or are there magic words?
I did pay 200K to the front desk each time and nothing to the girl though. [/QUOTE]Go to the Forum recommended places on NPK and DBP (Ben Ny) and you will get BBBJ with CIM for 200k for sure. All the info you need is already here in the Forum. Just look and you will find exact addresses, maps, etc.
JD
I checked out Hello, Spa over the weekend. The place is nice inside but the rooms are setup kind of weird. Its one room partitioned horizontally and 1 shared bathroom for each room of 2 sections. This could be uncomfortable if the place is busy (for me at least).
When I walked in there were several girls ready to go, mostly pretty good looking. I chose one and went upstairs, had a nice shower and pretty relaxing massage. After the massage when it came time to the "do you want more" deal, the girl said she didn't do anything today cause she was on the rag. She went to go get someone else who ended up being a fatty, which I never saw downstairs when I walked in. She must have been hiding in the back or in the basement. Haha.
I was pretty excited from the great massage from the previous girl, so I just went ahead with the girl that came up. Not too bad, but not my favorite either. I would definitely go back again IF only I knew I could have the first girl. Not sure if she is really being visited by her Aunt Flo or she is a typical bait-and-switch deal. More to come in a few days. Maybe.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45; 1128686]I checked out Hello, Spa over the weekend. The place is nice inside but the rooms are setup kind of weird. Its one room partitioned horizontally and 1 shared bathroom for each room of 2 sections. This could be uncomfortable if the place is busy (for me at least).
When I walked in there were several girls ready to go, mostly pretty good looking. I chose one and went upstairs, had a nice shower and pretty relaxing massage. After the massage when it came time to the "do you want more" deal, the girl said she didn't do anything today cause she was on the rag. She went to go get someone else who ended up being a fatty, which I never saw downstairs when I walked in. She must have been hiding in the back or in the basement. Haha.
I was pretty excited from the great massage from the previous girl, so I just went ahead with the girl that came up. Not too bad, but not my favorite either. I would definitely go back again IF only I knew I could have the first girl. Not sure if she is really being visited by her Aunt Flo or she is a typical bait-and-switch deal. More to come in a few days. Maybe. [/QUOTE]I had the same thing happen, but the girl actually showed me, so I settled on a HJ.
[QUOTE=BigGuyVietnam;1129784]I had the same thing happen, but the girl actually showed me, so I settled on a HJ.[/QUOTE]She showed you her bloody rag? Ew.
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1129805]She showed you her bloody rag? Ew.[/QUOTE]Yeah really, how did she "show" you? That is pretty disgusting to look at her blood rag. Or maybe she showed you a little sting coming out? Haha.
Have been here twice, set up has been described in previous posts so I won't go over it again. First time got an ok girl with nice large boobs fairly std massage then the usual choice. Went for FS she only wanted to do mish and was a complete starfish.
Second time got a bit of a roughy. She looked OK from the angle I saw her downstairs but when I saw her close up it was not so nice. Massage again OK. But at the end there was only HJ and FS on the menu. Try as I might I couldn't get her to give a BJ . As it was the end of a pretty unsuccessful days punting (I had previously found the only 2 massage parlours in HCM where you cannot get even a HJ) , I went with the HJ. In a bit of poetic justice her dress straps fell across me and ended up pretty messy.
After a couple of unsatisfactory sessions at Hello, I wasn't so keen on trying again. Although I like the setup as it fits my requirements to be quick, simple, discreet and available during the day. It is quite a lot more expensive than other options. Not an issue for me as I usually only punt a couple of times a month.
This time round I went for another similar establishment nearby. Lucky. Went in about midday and it looked like most of the girls were not working yet even though they say on the door they are open from 9am. Initially there was two girls available . Both OK but not fantastic, one had an awsome bubble butt and didn't look more than 20 but didn't quite press my buttons. After a bit of a wait another girl came downstairs. This one was mid-20's very petite and quite cute.
Off to the room which was quite a bit bigger than the ones at Hello, and also had an attached rather than shared bathroom. Good session, not much massage just lots of foreplay leading up the finale. Only disappointment was she didn't offer BBBJ. Only covered. FS was also available and she had a very lovely looking "chim" definately have to go back to sample that.
Gave her the std tip as mentioned here and no complaints. Another good thing with these PNH places. Prices seem standardised.
Could someone please tell me the address for Luck spa and Hello, spa. I just arrived in HCM and would love to visit these spas.
[QUOTE=Lithgo; 1130583]After a couple of unsatisfactory sessions at Hello, I wasn't so keen on trying again. Although I like the setup as it fits my requirements to be quick, simple, discreet and available during the day. It is quite a lot more expensive than other options. Not an issue for me as I usually only punt a couple of times a month.
This time round I went for another similar establishment nearby. Lucky. Went in about midday and it looked like most of the girls were not working yet even though they say on the door they are open from 9am. Initially there was two girls available. Both OK but not fantastic, one had an awsome bubble butt and didn't look more than 20 but didn't quite press my buttons. After a bit of a wait another girl came downstairs. This one was mid-20's very petite and quite cute.
Off to the room which was quite a bit bigger than the ones at Hello, and also had an attached rather than shared bathroom. Good session, not much massage just lots of foreplay leading up the finale. Only disappointment was she didn't offer BBBJ. Only covered. FS was also available and she had a very lovely looking "chim" definately have to go back to sample that.
Gave her the std tip as mentioned here and no complaints. Another good thing with these PNH places. Prices seem standardised.[/QUOTE]
[quote=alwayshard45; 1076525]unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.
then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.
after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.[/quote]hi bro, where exactly is this place in d1?
It's my first experience at Benny's and my first at a Hot Toc joints and I must say the experience is good! The lady who was her turn who served my, in her mid twenties, good attitude, took her time to give me a facial clean up and some so-call "massage" before we proceed to the deed. Well its nothing exceptional to shout for but I find that she is not the rushy pushy type and even offered a 2nd round as I didn't last too long in the first. Paid my dues in standards and left the place happy.
Thank you for the recommendation here bros.
[QUOTE=Loverboat;1132130]Hi bro, where exactly is this place in D1?[/QUOTE]I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story. Went to the infamous John Dao his shop again yesterday.and the week before, no problems there with the papasan for more then 200. 000 ticket. Good service. Thanks again John for the location, just for the info, the motos start to know me a bit now where I am going from district one to district 7 and price go and come is now 40. 000, (60. 000 before)
Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.
And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1132285]I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story.
And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. [/QUOTE]Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1132507]Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?[/QUOTE]I was also trying to figure out the same thing.
I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.
Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening.
PLEASE NOTE: This is just what I gathered from reading and I'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what Cambo meant. I could be completely wrong.
I decided to give Hello, Spa a second chance even though there have been several posts about unsatisfactory visits. Got a great looking girl, early 20s, firm body and nice large tits. The girl is from is from the mountains but has very nice light skin. The massage was above standard, she has great strength and yet a nice soft touch as well. Afterwards, was asked if I wanted to full service and I agreed. But then she said we had to move to another room upstairs. I thought it was a bit odd, but maybe thats done because the room I was currently in is a shared room. But the after going upstairs the room as also another shared room. Not sure why the switch. Anyways, excellent body and skills, but no BJ was available. A little disappointed about that.
At these spots it seems impossible to get a BJ. Its either all or nothing. Not sure what the deal is, I guess they just want to ensure getting the larger tip rather than take less.
Overall nice experience, would see her specifically again. About the place in general. The girls there mostly seem to be older, like 30s. Some were ok and some other not my cup of tea. There are a few diamonds in the rough though, like the one that I had. I didn't have my camera so no pics. Sorry guys.
[quote=muse fan; 1132519]i was also trying to figure out the same thing.
i think he meant to not believe what alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. i base that off of his bad experience with cambo refers to in his post.
simply put, i think cambo says not to believe ah's post because he just doesn't see that happening.
please note: this is just what i gathered from reading and i'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what cambo meant. i could be completely wrong.[/quote]quote originally posted by alwayshard45 view post.
unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.
then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.
after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.
this is actually the story i was referring to, it is contradictory.totally- to over six years experience in saigon. its mostly the same crap all the time all kinds of fake silly reason to get; tips; , first and foremost it is; no salary; . blablablabla, and then a story like this comes, where hoars suddenly don't want money! in vietnam!
you already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit.exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you. as i will be back in saigon within the next three weeks, i would love to check it out, so please let the board know, and when i was wrong in my remarks.after finding this out on the spot whenever you submit the location- i will be the first to do the right thing here. believe me.
if i had not have to be in saigon for particular reasons, would never ever go there, it is a fucking stinking rat hole, because i am sick and tired of the same old crap wherever you enter there, is it for sex, foot massage, too have your arse wiped or whatever, its almost always trouble for money. most can not stick to what they agree upon.
but anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. whether you want to believe it is up to you. the board is not here to put eachother down but to help one another. so come with this location alwayshard.
[QUOTE=Muse Fan; 1132519]I was also trying to figure out the same thing.
I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.
Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1132285]. After I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.
And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. [/QUOTE]I also thought the same thing as to what he was referring to, but I wasn't sure. Didn't want to jump to conclusions. Anyways, if you refer to any of my posts, everything I have written about has been factual and not exaggerated. If you don't believe that's fine with me.
I also want to make it clear, I didn't walk out of there without tipping. I did leave a tip for all participants, all I stated was that only one of the girls stuck around to receive the tip for the group. They all share it. If you give 100k total for 5 girls when you walk out. They will divide it up 20k each. Of course you couldn't walk away with such a small amount. Tips at these places can be given to the girls directly or to the mamasan who in turn will pay out to the girls. So for the girls to walkaway without receiving their tip directly from me is not unusual. What is unusual is their general attitude towards the amount of the tip. They were very casual, no negotiation or asking for an absurd amount of money.
Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1132527]Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.[/QUOTE]I've been reading the vietnam threads a lot lately because I plan on moving there by the end of March. I have every intention of visiting places and posting as much info as possible. Of course, being the new guy on the block that I'm going to be, please bear with me because I might begin with posts from places already covered (benny's, my tien, etc.) , but that's because I want to get my feet wet first (and dick) in places where I might know what to expect. You know. Baby steps.
Cambo: sucks to get kicked, by ANYONE. Totally uncalled for. I hope that didn't happen to you at Benny's. Could you post exactly what place it was? I don't want to show up and get kicked on the way out. If you 'did' mention it, I didn't catch it.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1076525]Unusual but delightful experience today. I was in the upper D1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the BnGs on NPK...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1076779]Yes, it is a different shop. Actually, is the shop RIGHT next door to the place I went to before and was shunned from. haha. It's like night and day between these two places for me.[/QUOTE]I gave the area of the location on NPK. There are 3 shops on this street that offer this type of service, well actually 2 because one of them is actually just a HJ-only type of place for some reason. Well from what I've experienced at least. As far as the exact number of the shop, I don't know, I haven't been there since my last report which was last year. What I can say is that when you drive down NPK from Dinh Tien Hoang, you will come to a T-intersection (there is no stop light or sign). At this point on the street on the right hand side you will see the 3 shops as described earlier. From my earlier post you will see that its the shop on the LEFT hand side of the 3 shops.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1132524]. To over six years experience in Saigon.
You already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit. Exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you.
But anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. Whether you want to believe it is up to you. The board is not here to put each other down but to help one another. So come with this location Alwayshard. [/QUOTE]I believe I was only asked 1 time to provide more information as to where this location was, by JD, and I responded with adequate information. He had no complaints to the description of the location.
If you've been here six years, how is it that you don't understand giving a girl at a massage place 50, 000vnd for an hour foot massage is not acceptable. There is a standard fee for services. The tip is the equivalent of the entry fee. Yes, you CAN get away with a LITTLE bit less, like give 150k tip if the house fee is 200k, but giving a girl 50, 000 with an entry fee of 150, 000 is generally not acceptable.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1132285]Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.
And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. [/QUOTE]I find it harder to believe that a girl, probably 40 kgs would kick you in the back over a tip. But then again you did only offer her $2. 40 USD for an hour of her time. I can see her being angry and maybe saying bad things in VNese, but I don't understand why she would kick you. Unless you had promised her a certain amount and then was going back on your word.
You say you seem to always have troubles in VN over money because they are all so money-crazed. Let me say this, I've been in VN for much longer than most people here, and in all my time I've had very little major problems over money in VN. Yes a few here and there and over small amounts. But in general, I don't have problems here. You have the right to your own opinion, believe or not, the other members who have been active in this forum for longer than January can vouch for the legitimacy of my reports. I try to be a contributing member of this forum and allow others to enjoy the same good experiences as me as well avoid the I've had problems.
Good luck to you when you arrive in Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter;1132285]Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.[/QUOTE]Geez, how much of a Cheap Charlie can you be? Your food / drink bill when you go out is probably more than what most locals earn in 1 month.
Massages are already cheap here, these girls work very hard for their money, You should try massaging someone for any more than 10min's and see how tired your hands get. Just because she didn't do the 5 knuckle shuffle on your old fella doesn't mean you should be insulting her with your tip. She refused the tip because it was insulting, Same way you would refuse being underpaid from a client / customer.
With bull5hit like that tip your paying, she should have kicked you in the nuts.
[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter;1132285]had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000[/QUOTE]For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.
Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).
Kick in the back is completely unwarranted. Post the name of the place, so people can avoid it.
Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).
Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.
Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?
Finaly, in the third place, I was quoted 250k, but when I started walking away, they called me back and accepted 200k. The girl was super pretty, but the place upstairs was so damn dark I couldn't see the massage table let alone her face. Why, oh, why do the Viets always turn an event that could be a memorable moment of joy into a worst-we-can-come-up-with sperm letoff? It's *same* work for the girl and would take the same time if they actually made the customer somewhat comfortable and unconstrained by stupid rules. Does the darkness and pants-around-ankles make it legal or what?
The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1132991]For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.[/QUOTE]Again the rule of thumb in Vietnam, for everyone not just tourists and expats, is that the tip for such services as massage, haircuts (hot toc. Legit places) , BnGs, nail maintenance, etc. The tip is equal to the house fee. You go to the beauty salons on Bui Thi Xuan and get a haircut, shampoo, and massage. The house fee would be about 150-200k. The girl is EXPECTING that as a tip, weather you are a local or a tourist. If you don't want to tip that much, go to a regular barber for 15, 000vnd, get your ears lowered and the tip is the same again. So 30k VND total. Of course I don't think anyone should be physically assaulted for under tipping, especially if someone just didn't know. But at the same time, the people here do work hard for their money and are on limited incomes.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1132991]Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).[/QUOTE]For a lot of the guys here I understand Vietnam is just a travel spot while in Asia. But let me tell you guys something. Learning even just a little bit of the language weather you are just visiting or living here, will increase your happiness 7-fold. I'm fairly fluent in the language, reading / writing / speaking / listening, and since I've improved my language skills, I can tell you from personal experience that my experiences in VN have become more pleasant and with less confusion, especially in regards to money.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1132998]Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).
Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.
Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?
The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less". [/QUOTE]If one place on DBP is raising the price, then they will all be doing it. Sounds like they are increasing the price based on the current raise in inflation. Sucks for those living here and getting paid in VND instead of USD / EUR. I haven't been out to DBP's BnGs for a while so I couldn't tell you if that is the standard price now or not, but sounds like it is.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1133190]Again the rule of thumb in Vietnam, for everyone not just tourists and expats, is that the tip for such services as massage, haircuts (hot toc. Legit places) , BnGs, nail maintenance, etc. The tip is equal to the house fee.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for clarifying. This is completely unexpected and peculiar to Vietnam. I haven't heard of such practice (mandatory tip = service fee) anywhere else. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services (similar to Thailand where oil massage is 300 baht, and special services are on top of that). For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).
Oddly, my close Vietnamese female friend (middle class, no connection to tourist industry) pays zero in tips in any situation (restaurants, taxis, hotel etc.). First time I asked there about tips, she literally said "Tip? What does that word mean?" (BTW, what's the Vietnamese word for it?). Of course, she doesn't visit sex establishments.
I once had a haircut for 20k (normal barber, a guy) and he didn't show in any way he was expecting a tip. Also, on two occasions I had a hot toc BJ for 150-160k (paid in advance to the girl directly once, to mamasan the other time). Afterward both times a girl went away quickly and didn't wait around for any extra money (let alone ask). WTF is going on?
AH45 certainly knows much more about Vietnam than I do. However, it would still be interesting to hear other opinions from old hands on the tipping issue. Is it really mandatory to tip same amount as service and when?
Learning the local language always helps, that's good advice. But Vietnamese is so damn ambiguous and they're not particularly patient. Frankly, I gave up when they gave me fish instead of chicken. English is safer for me.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1133208]. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services. For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).
Oddly, my close Vietnamese female friend (middle class, no connection to tourist industry) pays zero in tips in any situation (restaurants, taxis, hotel etc.). First time I asked there about tips, she literally said "Tip? What does that word mean?" (BTW, what's the Vietnamese word for it?). Of course, she doesn't visit sex establishments.
Also, on two occasions I had a hot toc BJ for 150-160k (paid in advance to the girl directly once, to mamasan the other time). Afterward both times a girl went away quickly and didn't wait around for any extra money (let alone ask). WTF is going on. [/QUOTE]At the BnGs, the price for entry is 100k and the other 100k is for the girl for doing whatever it is she did for you. Even if you just give 200k to the house, the girl will get her cut at some point. (I have no idea when, assumable the same day).
For the massage and haircut tips, it depends on where you go. If its the barber outside on the street, then of course no tip is required or expected. However, if you go into a beauty salon the tip for the barber is not expected but greatly appriciated. Tip depends on the price of the haircut, but 20-50k is good enough. However at the Beauty salon parlors with hot girls in short skirts / dresses the tips that I was referring to were to go to the girl who helped you, not the barber. Those girls expect 150-200k VND.
As far as other times to tip. Taxi's no you are not required to leave a tip, but leaving small change (a few thousands) is the general norm. Example, the fair is 47, 000 vnd, leaving 50, 000 VND. However, if you have a driver for a long period of time or you ask them to wait for you for an extended period of time, then yes a tip is expected. Hotels, never tip. Restaurants. You're not required, and never expected to leave a tip when you're eating food on the street or small store front type of restaurant. However, the "Nha Hang Hai San" (expensive seafood places) , or restaurants with girls running around in shorts skirts, you are expected to leave a small tip. Around 5% is acceptable. Now days at the larger chain or western restaruants they charge you the 5% gratuity in the bill when you get it, even if you're going alone. Like how its done in the US for larger parties of 8 or more people. Example, Hard Rock Cafe.
Other services such as motorbike repair, if its minor and done in just a few hours or less, no tip is expected. However, if it takes a couple of days or heavy work to be done a tip ranging from 20k-100k is a good idea. Especially if you are living here because you will most likely need to return in the future for something and the mechanic is your bike's best friend. Haha.
Like I stated earlier, the girls don't wait around because they get the money from the mamasan later. No need to collect from you. They go back and clean up and continue eating their lunch or whatever.
Maybe I'm just an idiot and paying too much for things I shouldn't. I would have no idea. But this what I've come up with over the years through my various Vietnamese friends. Its been a long process. I remember when I first came here I was tipping the cabbie like a dollar (15, 000 vnd) for each fare and same to the motorbike parking guys even though the parking was free. Haha.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1132998]Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).
Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.
Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?
Finaly, in the third place, I was quoted 250k, but when I started walking away, they called me back and accepted 200k. The girl was super pretty, but the place upstairs was so damn dark I couldn't see the massage table let alone her face. Why, oh, why do the Viets always turn an event that could be a memorable moment of joy into a worst-we-can-come-up-with sperm letoff? It's *same* work for the girl and would take the same time if they actually made the customer somewhat comfortable and unconstrained by stupid rules. Does the darkness and pants-around-ankles make it legal or what?
The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".[/QUOTE]I'm afraid this is what happens when too many foreigners go to a place from what I'm told those places on dbp also are frequneted by local men and the price there is still 200k, just as how I went to the nude bng in d7, that was spoken about here the owner there had the gall to tell me that the price is now 300k for foreigners and 200k for locals after being told that there was a overall price increase since tet but I disputed that since I told them my local friends was charge 200k just the other day. I'm viet kieu and was silly enuff to speak english with another vk firned so that serves me right. Over all I would suggest a boycott of all dual pricing establishments as tehre are planty that offer similar service for 200k or less
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1132998]Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).
Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.[/QUOTE]Benny was asking 120K entry fee + 100K tips as usual last week, this applied for Vnmese, so I guest they getting from you the extra DONG but if you're insist on 120K, they will have to accept, drinks also remain at 20K.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1133208]Thank you for clarifying. This is completely unexpected and peculiar to Vietnam. I haven't heard of such practice (mandatory tip = service fee) anywhere else. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services (similar to Thailand where oil massage is 300 baht, and special services are on top of that). For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).
AH45 certainly knows much more about Vietnam than I do. However, it would still be interesting to hear other opinions from old hands on the tipping issue. Is it really mandatory to tip same amount as service and when? [/QUOTE]I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.
For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.
Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.
Most Blow and Go's charge 200k nowadays and many figure this is 100k and 100k so maybe that's where the idea of this rule or standard comes from. The first times I went to these places it was 30k for the house and 50k to the girl (1999). This moved to 40k and 60k for 100k even by 2001. In 2005 it was 70k for the house and 80k for the girl for 150k total. Only recently have places been asking a flat 200k including all. At brothels it is 100k for the room and 500k for the girl for FS.
Many non-sex massage places charge $15 or $20 or more for massage (male and female) is spa-like surroundings. Certainly it is not necessary to tip an equal amount.
JD
I totally agree with you Johndao about tipping. I went to My Tien Benny last December, one charged 90KVND, and the other charged 100KVND, my average tips was 200KVND to my girls. But there was one girl, I tips her 300K VND each time I with her, she was special to me, because she came from the same town where I was born years ago, she still known my family named from that town through her parents fairy tail story. I even asked her to go home with me, but she can't because she has no days off, off course I did not tell her who I am, just said I have been to that town with a friend some time ago. I still learning a lots from you Johndao.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1133529]I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.
For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.
Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.
Most Blow and Go's charge 200k nowadays and many figure this is 100k and 100k so maybe that's where the idea of this rule or standard comes from. The first times I went to these places it was 30k for the house and 50k to the girl (1999). This moved to 40k and 60k for 100k even by 2001. In 2005 it was 70k for the house and 80k for the girl for 150k total. Only recently have places been asking a flat 200k including all. At brothels it is 100k for the room and 500k for the girl for FS.
Many non-sex massage places charge $15 or $20 or more for massage (male and female) is spa-like surroundings. Certainly it is not necessary to tip an equal amount.
JD[/QUOTE]
I agree with JD that it doesn't have to be equal.
However, regarding the haircut places, it depends. At most of the nicer haircut places (like on Hai Ba Trung) that don't have the hot girls sitting outside (like Le Duyen) , the hairwash girls make a minimal salary of 1mm / mo and rely mostly on tips. These places are low volumes most of the times so they don't get that many tours, sometimes they could go for a day without a single tour. They're expected to help out in lots of other services while the hairstylist works, but may or may not get a tip as a result. The ones I know tell me that women use the most expensive, time consuming services (color, perm, extensions) but tip the least. These women will often skip out on tipping the assistants if the girls are busy with another customer at the time of checkout, even if those girls had spent 4-6 hrs working. And these girls work 7 days a week from 9 to 8 usually.
I often ask the cute ones why they don't work somewhere that they basically get paid more for looking good, and it's often due to familiarity with the current place, or be / see their friends work there. Then there is also the fear of the unknown, be / see most of them mistakenly assume places like Le Duyen are brothels and worry about their reputation. What these poor girls don't realize is that a lot of people already think bad of all hairwashers, so they're getting the bad rap w / out the benefits of better tips. Their typical tips are 50-100k, with the price of the hairwash (60-90mins) 100-120k.
And be / see they are good looking, they can't see themselves working at a higher volume but step down in class haircut place (any of the thousands of legit places around). Those places will pay 3mm / mo salary, but the girls typically get 10-20k in tips each time. But they have to work harder and usually go several tours a day, doubling their salary to 6mm. The price of hairwash at these places is only 30-60k, which makes it easier for customers to tip vs the expensive places.
So I guess it's partly the fault of the girls for not choosing a different place to work, but if you do go into those places, keep in mind what the norms are there.
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1133529]I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.
For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.
Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.
JD[/QUOTE]
First post here.
Went pass by DBP couple times this week. But haven't got the chance to go inside the B&G place in DBP.
Any suggestion which girl should I look for at Benny? Not really into big breast. LOL.
Also, did anyone went to Festival recently? Seems like the last report been a while already.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1132998]...Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused...[/QUOTE]I went there yesterday and paid 120k to the house. If you ask, it may be more.
Cruised through NPK a few days ago. Around 9pm. Very quiet. A guy on the street pulled me in."$20 US for massage?". I offered 200k VND and off we go into the back. Several girls lounging around and one looks particularly good to me. I nod to her and off we go upstairs to a large empty room set up with massage tables each with a hair washing basin."Phuong" picks the table at the far end of the room and draws a curtain. No boom boom! She says most emphatically. A thorough cleaning with baby wipes and the massage begins. Nice and slow, bra up, panties off took my hand and started riding my thumb. Highly enjoyable. Will repeat.
NS
[QUOTE=Nutty Smith; 1139162]Cruised through NPK a few days ago. Around 9pm. Very quiet. A guy on the street pulled me in."$20 US for massage?". I offered 200k VND and off we go into the back. Several girls lounging around and one looks particularly good to me. I nod to her and off we go upstairs to a large empty room set up with massage tables each with a hair washing basin."Phuong" picks the table at the far end of the room and draws a curtain. No boom boom! She says most emphatically. A thorough cleaning with baby wipes and the massage begins. Nice and slow, bra up, panties off took my hand and started riding my thumb. Highly enjoyable. Will repeat.
NS[/QUOTE]Did the 200, 000 include the tip? I usually pay 100, 000 for the ticket and 100, 000 to the girl on NPK.
Just went to Benny.
Still the same price. 220k including tips. Even though the gasoline just went up yesterday. LOL.
Well, not the best blow job I ever had. The girl I pick have small breast. Well I'm not really into big one.
Not really the best service anyway. Her name I think is chien or ching or something. Don't pick that girl. Trust me.
She's short, skinny and probably around 24-27 years old.
Well, not my lucky day it seems.
Actually I went to hot toc place next door also, forget the name. May tien, is it? The girl is so old. And they have only 3 girls. So I went back to benny, and the girl that suppose to be my reserved gone already. Someone took her, and there's another girl I like, but she's been taken.
I'll try another time. But it still quite worth it. 10$ for blow job. Where else you can get it.
Thanks for the tips in this forum anyway.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Milkweed;1139425]Did the 200, 000 include the tip? I usually pay 100, 000 for the ticket and 100, 000 to the girl on NPK.[/QUOTE]Yes. 200k for everything. 100 entry + 100tip. Seems fair.
This was a few days ago. It looks like the landlord is renovating the building. I saw the mamasan from Thanh out front in the street and she said they had relocated to the hot toc next door. Something Tam (pink and white sign).
I had gone to this one when it first opened a few months back, but never found it as comfortable as Thanh. Now there's not a lot of choice. I've been a few times since and all the regular girls are there. The layout is three tables to a room and they have several rooms.
Here's a new wrinkle. They have a "VIP" room but it's an extra 100k, making it 200k to the house and 100k to the girl. Okay, I tried it once. The main thing this offers is privacy. Walls instead of curtains. It's more spacious, too. Great for a more energetic session.
My pick of the litter is Huong. She has good skill and a degree of enthusiasm not found in many of the others. She can take things fairly deep and really knows how to give Junior a good workout.
So I just returned to Vietnam a few days ago. Today I went to the place on NPK next door to the barber shop that closed down and got the usual. On my way out I was expecting to pay 200VND without much hassle but they pushed and pushed for 300VND. I know the local currency is significantly weeker so not wanting to be the ignorant foreigner who gets in a fight because he doesn't know what's going on, I caved. So anyway, if I go back, what is the right price? 300 is steep, as it is a 50% increase.
FYI I have RTFF. I am wondering if anything has changed recently and I don't want to help drive up the price for foreigners. I'd appreciate an answer from someone like Johndao who knows what he's talking about as opposed to someone who just quotes a price from an earlier post.
Thanks guys!
One thing to add. I assumed I did not have the VIP. I read about this earlier and I told the girl "không VIP" when I got to the room. The room I had was 3 walls and a curtain, there wasn't much room inside the cubicle (about the same as the curtained off area at the old place) and there were 2 or 3 cubicles to a room.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1132998]Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie.[/QUOTE]Visited last week. 120k entry + 100k tip as a foreigner.
She also asked another 10k for water bottle.
Appreciate your response. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Carl Raze; 1149139]So I just returned to Vietnam a few days ago. Today I went to the place on NPK next door to the barber shop that closed down and got the usual. On my way out I was expecting to pay 200VND without much hassle but they pushed and pushed for 300VND. I know the local currency is significantly weeker so not wanting to be the ignorant foreigner who gets in a fight because he doesn't know what's going on, I caved. So anyway, if I go back, what is the right price? 300 is steep, as it is a 50% increase.
FYI I have RTFF. I am wondering if anything has changed recently and I don't want to help drive up the price for foreigners. I'd appreciate an answer from someone like Johndao who knows what he's talking about as opposed to someone who just quotes a price from an earlier post.
Thanks guys! [/QUOTE]Price may be up by 20, 000 VND (to 220k) at some shops, at others still 200k total.
JD
I will be traveling with my wife to to HCMC next month. I woud really appreciate help in finding a Spa (very clean and not rundown) where I can take my wife and have a little fun on the side. I have read allot of the blogs and cannot find anything really definitive.
Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=Hyestud; 1149760]I will be traveling with my wife to to HCMC next month. I would really appreciate help in finding a Spa (very clean and not rundown) where I can take my wife and have a little fun on the side. I have read allot of the blogs and cannot find anything really definitive.
Thanks for the help. [/QUOTE]Do you mean you want to leave your wife at a spa for a couple of hours and then go and seek some fun / sex somewhere before coming back to get her? Or do you mean you want to go to the same spa as her but to a different room where you can have fun / sex?
If it's the latter I have no idea and would be surprised if you find anything. You may be able to get a HJ happy ending with her in the next room but I doubt it. If it's the former, drop her and then get a cab to any of the mentioned 'blow and gos' and then come back and get her. But it won't take you long!
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1149871]Do you mean you want to leave your wife at a spa for a couple of hours and then go and seek some fun / sex somewhere before coming back to get her? Or do you mean you want to go to the same spa as her but to a different room where you can have fun / sex?
If it's the latter I have no idea and would be surprised if you find anything. You may be able to get a HJ happy ending with her in the next room but I doubt it. If it's the former, drop her and then get a cab to any of the mentioned 'blow and gos' and then come back and get her. But it won't take you long!
JD[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. In Bangkok we usually do the soapys together but it sounds like the Blow and Gos and spas in Vietnam mostly cater to single males and are generally not couple friendly.
[QUOTE=Hyestud;1149890]Thanks for the tip. In Bangkok we usually do the soapys together but it sounds like the Blow and Gos and spas in Vietnam mostly cater to single males and are generally not couple friendly.[/QUOTE]Yes, Bangkok is a city in southeast Asia and so is HCMC. That's it.
JD
Hi Newbie here.
Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?
I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week.
[QUOTE=Polygon; 1152073]Hi Newbie here.
Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?
I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week.[/QUOTE]I suggest you read the forum and come up with a more specific question. Not to be a prick but it's all here in the forum. You just need to take the time a read it. Then, if you have question or need clarification, ask.
[QUOTE=Polygon; 1152073]Hi Newbie here.
Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?
I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week. [/QUOTE.
By the way, how were your experiences in Jakarta and KL?
I am a newby there: do you have any guide within the topic or can you guide me?
I know this is the wrong forum for those areas, but I was just wondering whether you might add contributions and not only take contributions.
Ouch! I was just goping through some of these posts and it looks like I just paid way too much for a happy massage. I went tot he "Kingston Club" on Hang Chuoi in Hanoi (sry I know this is HCMC) and Paid 910, 000VDR. Granted it was a 90 min massage / spa and a little bit of a BJ. She finished me off with an HJ. Daaaaamn! Oh well, I was going to go overnight with this girl but she asked 100USD. What do you guys think I should try to get her down to and should I offer her anything to take some pics? What are the going rates for over night in HCMC. She seems like she'd provide good service, jumped right into BBBJ, was a pretty cute girl.
[QUOTE=K Brew;1153429]Ouch! I was just goping through some of these posts and it looks like I just paid way too much for a happy massage. I went tot he "Kingston Club" on Hang Chuoi in Hanoi (sry I know this is HCMC) and Paid 910, 000VDR. Granted it was a 90 min massage / spa and a little bit of a BJ. She finished me off with an HJ. Daaaaamn! Oh well, I was going to go overnight with this girl but she asked 100USD. What do you guys think I should try to get her down to and should I offer her anything to take some pics? What are the going rates for over night in HCMC. She seems like she'd provide good service, jumped right into BBBJ, was a pretty cute girl.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to the kingston and I'm not a vet here on the forum or ho chi minh, but you after reading the site and testing a few waters. You definitely overpaid. Now she wants 100$ for ovenight, she better be a god damn 12 (out of a 10 scale) to be asking that much.
Am I wrong here fellas?
I went to Vien Dong Hotel massage and also a BnG at NPK. Let's compare the two.
VIEN DONG:
Conveniently located, went in there. 200k for a body massage. Ushered into the locker room, the guy there asked if I had chosen a girl, I wasn't given that option, so I said no. He said he will pick someone beautiful and young for me. So I agreed. Put my stuff away, went for a shower and steam, skipped the sauna. Wanted to go to my massage but was a bit lost. I headed into a room and the guy asked if I wanted a back scrub. I was like, oh yeah, is this the table shower like some korean places? Ummm, no. I was being painfully molested by a guy for 10 minutes, felt like a plate being put under a steel wool scrub. And he asked me for a tip! OMG. Well, gave him 30k. I know I was being cheap, but it was not something I wanted let alone pay for.
Finally got led to my massage room. Windowed door, not a good sign. Second floor close to the end of corridor, better sign. Waited like 10 minutes, massuese finally shows up. Pretty, I give her an 7. 5. Was chirpy and chatty in the beginning, sizing me up. (like asking me if I were single, here alone, been to a massage parlour before, blah blah) Dropped her hints, grazing my nuts "accidentally", etc. Flipped me over, asked me "pepe want massage?". I asked for a BJ and she said No, not allowed. Whatever. I have been giving myself free HJs for 20 years, and they are pretty good I must say. I am not going to pay someone to do that for me. No more smile, became very mechanical, waiting for the time to pass. Asked for a tip. I tipped her 100k. She wasn't happy at all, gave me a look. I didn't F'ing care.
Damage: 200K (massage) .30K (tip for scrub) .100K (tip for massage) .20K (tip for locker room boys) = total 330K.
Satisfaction: 3/10 got all horny for nothing, the massage was ok, steam room and facilities okay.
WIR? : If I want a pretty girl to get me all horny, maybe.
HOT TOC on NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) :
I am sorry as I forgot the number, I think it was 84. Anyway I was walking down the street, doesn't look like a good street to be walking alone in the dark, but I felt safe. I probably saw about 6 of these hot toc places. I saw one hot girl came out for a smoke or something. I walked from end to end and doubled back to make my choice. Some of the "bouncers" are not helping, the one I went to, there were 3 friendlier bouncers. Wanted 300k, thanks to ISG I knew the market price. I said 100k for ticket. 100k for girl (with my sign language and the help of two 100k notes). Okie dokie. Went right in.
6 girls sitting there watching tv. A fat one ushered me upstairs. I said I wanted to choose. Some 5s. 6s, one 9. Guess who I picked? She was young, slim, cute ass, very pretty, looked like a innocent teenager type, boobs on the small size, but still a nice body. Took me upstairs, showed me to a room. Asked me if I wanted a pepe massage. Sure, since I know she meant BBBJ rather than HJ. (again thanks ISG). Wet wipes, stripped down, no more innocent little girl. He tongue was like a tsunami. Lapping my nipples and she was trying to lick it off. Roamed her cute butt and when she wiped only my left hand, I knew what that was for. But I didn't finger her as she was very tight.
Moved downstairs, took her time, I felt like a Japanese AV star. After a few minutes, she deep throated me, and I couldn't hold it in anymore. She spat it out in a smooth motion and continued to suck me dry and until I was completely limp. Must have sucked for another 1-2 minutes after I came. Cleaned me up, and went to clean herself up. Came back to the room I was already all dressed. Took out 100k and she asked,"tip?" I said yes. HUGE smile on her face like she won a minor lottery. Gave me a hug and a peck on the cheek. Said something in Vietnamese like please come again or something. (I don't speak Viet but I could guess from the body language). Went downstairs, dropped another 100k for the ticket, went out with a smile on my face.
Damage: 100k ticket. 100k tip.
Satisfaction: 9/10, BBBJ was not perfect but close, AV star feel, she was a hot 9, with bigger boobs would be a perfect 10.
WIR? : want to guess?
Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.
[QUOTE=Japentii;1154133]Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.[/QUOTE]Good report and nice to see someone who doesn't speak the language following the advice on here and getting a good service.
[QUOTE=Japentii; 1154133]I went to Vien Dong Hotel massage and also a BnG at NPK. Let's compare the two.
VIEN DONG:
Damage: 200K (massage).30K (tip for scrub).100K (tip for massage).20K (tip for locker room boys) = total 330K.
Satisfaction: 3/10 got all horny for nothing, the massage was ok, steam room and facilities okay.
WIR? : If I want a pretty girl to get me all horny, maybe.
HOT TOC on NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) :
Damage: 100k ticket. 100k tip.
Satisfaction: 9/10, BBBJ was not perfect but close, AV star feel, she was a hot 9, with bigger boobs would be a perfect 10.
WIR? : want to guess?
Did you like my report? Comments welcomed. [/QUOTE]Nice work on the report by method of compare-and-contrast.
Masseuses at the Vien Dong hotel massage, as well as at any of the hotels in the Pham Ngu Lao, Dong Khoi areas of D1, cater largely to the foreign tourist market and have thus been spoilt by those who are not resident in Vietnam and who, comparing with their home countries, would easily think a VND 300.000/400.000/500.000 (USD 15-25) tip for a HJ is a steal. These girls clear upwards of VND 20 M / month easy, approx. 5-6 times the average monthly wage in this country.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1154273]Nice work on the report by method of compare-and-contrast.
Masseuses at the Vien Dong hotel massage, as well as at any of the hotels in the Pham Ngu Lao, Dong Khoi areas of D1, cater largely to the foreign tourist market and have thus been spoilt by those who are not resident in Vietnam and who, comparing with their home countries, would easily think a VND 300. 000/400. 000/500. 000 (USD 15-25) tip for a HJ is a steal. These girls clear upwards of VND 20 M / month easy, approx. 5-6 times the average monthly wage in this country. [/QUOTE]I agree with most of what you wrote Raverboy, except that these girls clear upward of 20m per month. Although they may take in that much, there is no way massage or hotel managers would let girls keep that much working out of THEIR place. The 'fees' that they (or anyone in VN) have to pay in order to earn that much are substantial. 'Little people' just are not allowed to keep that much when they are working the facilities of 'big people. '
JD
[QUOTE=Johndao; 1154289]I agree with most of what you wrote Raverboy, except that these girls clear upward of 20m per month. Although they may take in that much, there is no way massage or hotel managers would let girls keep that much working out of THEIR place. The 'fees' that they (or anyone in VN) have to pay in order to earn that much are substantial. 'Little people' just are not allowed to keep that much when they are working the facilities of 'big people. '
JD[/QUOTE]True, although I don't think the 'fees' make that much of an impact on each girl as there is probably 1 or 2 massage or hotel managers to about 20+ girls. Vien Dong alone probably has about 50-70 girls working 2 or 3 shifts per 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Japentii;1154133]Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.[/QUOTE]Nice post. Excellent details. I have yet to try NPK, but I am now inspired to look it up next chance I get.
Thanks bud.
Hello,
I've been trying to find a full service massage and I've been searching the forum with not a lot of luck. Does anyone know of a place that they would be willing to reccomend? I'm in the Distrct 1 area, if there's a place close to that it'd be even better. I was expecting to pay something like 400K for the hour? But please correct me if this is too much / little. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
KB
[QUOTE=K Brew; 1155391]Hello,
I've been trying to find a full service massage and I've been searching the forum with not a lot of luck. Does anyone know of a place that they would be willing to reccomend? I'm in the Distrct 1 area, if there's a place close to that it'd be even better. I was expecting to pay something like 400K for the hour? But please correct me if this is too much / little. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
KB[/QUOTE]Dude, hard to take serious that you did not see any information on FS massage. Did you only read three posts?
Please keep reading.
[QUOTE=Explorerman; 1155485]Dude, hard to take serious that you did not see any information on FS massage. Did you only read three posts?
Please keep reading. [/QUOTE]Reports of FS Massage are quite sparse. I read through about 7 pages, or 4 months, of stuff in the many VN subforums. When there are reports very pertinent details, like an address or the name of an establishment are generallly omitted. I spent about 3 hours on this forum sifting through posts, clad with a printed out map of HCMC working like a detective to find places to go. I have finally found some promising leadds but we'll see where they go. I'm definitely not interested in any BnGs and I'm not so comfortable with the SW scene. I found a map by JD and I plan on heading out there. I'll put up a nice report if I find something worth mentioning.
When you least expect it, you stumble on one of these full sex places.
A few of us went out for a massage in HCM a year back including a female colleague.
We went to a cheap looking place, clean enough with smiling girls out front.
There were 3 of us and we stripped behind a curtain to have a massage. Half way through this girls says "sex?" and almost got into the massage bed with me. If our female colleague had not been there I would have gone for it
Mas 147
[QUOTE=K Brew;1155854]Reports of FS Massage are quite sparse. I read through about 7 pages, or 4 months, of stuff in the many VN subforums. When there are reports very pertinent details, like an address or the name of an establishment are generallly omitted. I spent about 3 hours on this forum sifting through posts, clad with a printed out map of HCMC working like a detective to find places to go. I have finally found some promising leads but we'll see where they go. I'm definitely not interested in any BnGs and I'm not so comfortable with the SW scene. I found a map by JD and I plan on heading out there. I'll put up a nice report if I find something worth mentioning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for not getting offended. I was just surprised. One tip. There is a search function on the site.
Before I asked the question, I did a search and found information from January until now, but I guess you went page by page.
I am with you. Not usually interested in BnG or SW, and I find I prefer more upmarket, and willing to pay.
Let us know what you found.
Well after a HORRENDOUS experience with one of the girls I picked up at Xo Viet bridge last night I decided to take one last kick at the can in this country. So far I had paid 45$ for a HJ / massage in Hanoi. 20$ for a total ***** of a SW and then 30$ for a total clusterfuck of an encounter last night!
I finally decided that maybe trying to find full service was just too much hassle for the short time tourist. There certainly is no easy route to a quality FS encounter here without someone to show you the ropes.
So on to it, I headed up to NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) from PNL (Pham Ngu Lao) , stopping first in Thi Sach to get a quick look at Smileys. I made a quick stop at "Smiley's" because I came across something that alluded to FS and that's what I originally wanted. When I got there I asked,"massage?" and was told "No massage just blowjob!" by the bartender. This was going to be easy I thought. So out walks this sweet looking girl about an 8/10 and she starts groping my cock and has me petting her pussy. She starts in with,"Ok 50$", which made me laugh but she didn't find it as funny :P. I tell her,"in your dreams" and then say "I'll give you 200". She says she cannot and then lost interest. I was wondering if guys were actually paying her this. I left and she shit talked me in Vietnamese as I turned my back. Whatever lady, you can make some money or no money, up to you.
At this point I was really getting agitated and hopped on the moto bike to NPK. When I got there I looked around for Hot Toc and found it quite easily. Walked inside with friendly staff greeting me. When I arrived there were a bunch of pretty decent and downright cute girls all in their uniforms. I tell them,"100 massage", they nod assuringly and encourage me to select a girl. I pick a Cutie name "Yaawn" or something similar to that. She's a young 20's Viet with a slamming body. She is nice but doesn't speak much english. I get naked and she does a half assed massage and has me roll over. She starts with sucking my nipples as I grope her ass and tits. This progresses to me fingering her albeit gently as per her protest. She also had an AMAZING rack. They were Perky C-cups with gorgeous nipples. Very nice smile on this girl as she sucks my cock. I meant to get some pics of her but didn't rememeber until the session was up LOL. I'm not even sure they'd let me, anyone know. JD? Also, do you think she'd do an outcall to my hotel if I got her number? What should I be prepared to pay for that with ST and LT?
All in all a great experience. I tipped her 100 vnd and paid the staff 100 vnd for the room. Great time with a great girl and I'll be returning.
Looks: 8. 5/10.
Service: 8/10.
"Bullshit Factor": No Bullshit!
Damage: 100vnd room + 100Vnd tip = 200. 000VND.
Thanks!
KB.
PS: I really appreciated that they didn't fuck around with me when I got back down to the lobby and paid for the room. I was almost expecting them to talk some shit and ask me for 300VND for the room! I plan to return tomorrow for another session and maybe with a friend. I think they appreciate the value of referrals and repeat business. Sorry if WAY TOO LONG!
[QUOTE=K Brew;1156658]to get a quick look at Smileys. I made a quick stop at "Smiley's" because I came across something that alluded to FS and that's what I originally wanted. When I got there I asked,"massage?" and was told "No massage just blowjob!" by the bartender. This was going to be easy I thought. So out walks this sweet looking girl about an 8/10 and she starts groping my cock and has me petting her pussy. She starts in with,"Ok 50$", which made me laugh but she didn't find it as funny :P. I tell her,"in your dreams" and then say "I'll give you 200". She says she cannot and then lost interest. I was wondering if guys were actually paying her this. I left and she shit talked me in Vietnamese as I turned my back. Whatever lady, you can make some money or no money, up to you.[/QUOTE]That's the normal price (1 million ST and 2 mil. LT) at Smiley's along with the HBT bars. The girls set the price and all stick to it. Stick to the Hot Tocs and BNG shops for the $200, 000 service. There are plenty out there and many listed in the forum.
[QUOTE=K Brew;1156658]Well after a HORRENDOUS experience with one of the girls I picked up at Xo Viet bridge last night I decided to take one last kick at the can in this country...[/QUOTE]Could you share with us your 'horrendous' experience? Was this a moto-girl FL or a SW standing on the bridge itself? By the way, its Xo Viet Nghe Tinh Street and Thi Nghe Bridge.
Last time I was in HCMC, the Monthly wage for coffee shop girl was 1. 2 million and 12 hour days.
A months wages for 40 minutes work? In Thailand ST is under 1000 bt. So USD 50 in Vn vs USD 33 in Thailand.
In Thailand the bar owner takes 40-60% of that $33. Any way you calculate it, these rates are obscene.
Which is why Indonesia is a better mongering destination.
[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1158062]Last time I was in HCMC, the Monthly wage for coffee shop girl was 1. 2 million and 12 hour days.
A months wages for 40 minutes work? In Thailand ST is under 1000 bt. So USD 50 in Vn vs USD 33 in Thailand.
In Thailand the bar owner takes 40-60% of that $33. Any way you calculate it, these rates are obscene.
Which is why Indonesia is a better mongering destination. [/QUOTE]
Yes. Agree with you on all counts. Which is why as some have said, this is not Thailand, and about the only thing in common between the two is that they are both on the Southeast Asian mainland.
The problem is perpetuated by tourists / non-resident mongerers who might not have the time or inclination to chase that abundant yet elusive poontang in VN, of pricing more in line with the average wages in this country such as that you speak of. To many of them (for example: Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean, etc.) they are willing to pay the USD 50 for ST because 'its still cheaper' than in their home country.
Bars like Smiley's on Thi Sach and the 'numbered' bars on Hai Ba Trung and Dong Khoi streets are visited almost entirely by tourists / non-resident / foreign mongerers who are not willing to go outside of their D1 comfort zone. These bars, for example, impose a 'barfine' - a concept that is unknown nowhere else in this [b]country[/b], but merely copied from the Cambodians, who copied it from the Thais, as a way for the bar to recoup some pure profit for being the 'middleman' to the uninformed mongerer.
IMO, if you are a foreigner in VN (i.e. you don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap/free pussy in this city are [b]endless[/b].
Nevertheless, I still occasionally need to satisfy my cravings to [i]main main cewek di Kota, Djakarta - sedap [/i]!!
[QUOTE=Explorerman; 1155959]Thanks for not getting offended. I was just surprised. One tip. There is a search function on the site.
Before I asked the question, I did a search and found information from January until now, but I guess you went page by page.
I am with you. Not usually interested in BnG or SW, and I find I prefer more upmarket, and willing to pay.
Let us know what you found.[/QUOTE]Ask taxi driver for korean quarter near airport. All hot tocs there are FS. 600k, tip included.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1158196]Bars like Smiley's on Thi Sach and the 'numbered' bars on Hai Ba Trung and Dong Khoi streets are visited almost entirely by tourists / non-resident / foreign mongerers who are not willing to go outside of their D1 comfort zone.
IMO, if you are a foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are [b]endless[/b]. [/QUOTE]First statement not exactly true. The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are. They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space. 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare.
Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.
[QUOTE=Adhome01;1157130]That's the normal price (1 million ST and 2 mil. LT) at Smiley's along with the HBT bars. The girls set the price and all stick to it. Stick to the Hot Tocs and BNG shops for the $200, 000 service. There are plenty out there and many listed in the forum.[/QUOTE]I wasn't sure from the original post on this if the girl was asking for $50 for a BLOWJOB. If so, that's surely off the charts. But for ST it's standard. Last time I got a quote on a BJ in Smiley was 500, 000. You might be able to negotiate a tad lower, but not much (if at all). But 200, 000 is well below going-price in Smiley. That's a tip for some girls.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1159109]First statement not exactly true. [b]The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are.[/b] They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. [b]I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space.[/b] 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare...[/QUOTE]That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:
[QUOTE=Raverboy]The problem is perpetuated by tourists / non-resident mongerers who might not have [b]the time or inclination[/b] to chase that abundant yet elusive poontang in VN, of pricing more in line with the average wages in this country such as that you speak of. To many of them (for example: Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean, etc.) they are willing to pay the USD 50 for ST because 'its still cheaper' than in their home country....[/QUOTE]As for other venues in this city to match the "concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space", here are a few examples out of several options:
1. The FS salons in Q Tan Binh and PMH Q7.
- 20+ salons in Q Tan Binh in a cluster of 4-5 streets. 20+ girls each.
2. Moto girls along NBK / XVNT / DBP.
- Example: I stopped along the side of the road along NBK one night on my motorbike, in about 20 seconds I was propositioned by 6-7 riders, all riding single. At least 2 do-able out of the lot.
3. BJ salons in Q Binh Thanh, Q10, Q Thu Duc.
- Depending on which salons, most of these girls would be amenable to being taken out at short notice for FS at a ST hotel, as they can easily double or triple their meagre income that way.
All of the above - No silly barfine, all ranging from minimum VND 300k to VND 600k maximum for ST, all already mentioned on this board. At the HBT bars you're out a minimum of VND 500k barfine + USD50 ST = VND 1,5 M for ST, plus overpriced ladydrinks.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1159109]Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.[/QUOTE]Right. So a small correction:
"IMO, if you are a [b]single[/b] Foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are [b]endless[/b]."
Was at DBL today when it started to rain so I decided to stop to put on my raincoat. Just happened to stop right in front of a Goi Dau shop. Well, haven't tried this street yet and read somewhere there is actually ngu om. Wasn't a very busy place and there was also just one girl available at that time.
Place was dirtier than benny but way less customers. I actually think I was the only one. So instead of going to a tiny box you go into a big room with 2 massage mats, room has a curtain if there should be another customer there at the same time. But it looked like they have like at least 4 rooms on 2 floors.
Came in the room and she asked me to undress and went out to get wet towels. Speculating on FS I just undressed completely. This wasnt the place I heard of though so when she came back she told me I can't do this here. Meh.
Asked me if I want to have a massage but I denied so she starts with the usual nipple licking and then goes down.
Girl had nice boobs, decent face. I'd say she was 25 but didn't care to ask. Also didn't asked her for phone number or if she's available for st / lt. But pretty sure she is though. There are some very new and nie mini hotels on this street as well. Maybe ill ask next tie if you need to bring a girl or if you can pick them up right there.
Girl: 6.
BBBJ+CIM: 6, not sure if CIM is normal but I just kept her head down and she didn't mind really.
Damage: ticket 80k, tip 120k (only had 200k bill on me) = 200k.
Will give some other places a shot some other time as DBL has plenty of Goi Dau or massage places
Cheers.
Ps: don't try to hard to find cheap FS. Girls are rather average, place is usually dirty and service is mediocre at best. Go straight for free instead. Looking for serious GFE then be ready to spent some big bucks. Hot chicks don't come for free, not even if they are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor and need the money. And its still cheap for expats / tourists anyway.
I also strongly advice to learn some basic vietnamese. Use google translate and vdict and you're set for real world encounters as well as other places on the net where they exchange air planes. Vietnamese love to share. Learn, read and win. Sounds easy and it is. I actually know vietnamese but hardly need to speak when I'm out mongering. They know what you want without having to hear it from you.
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1159114]That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:[/QUOTE]OK, just that you said "tourists / non-residents". I guess what I meant to stress was that those spots are also useful for some of us expats here. I still visit them, and I think others do too.
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1159114]As for other venues ... several options:[/QUOTE]I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1159458]...I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.[/QUOTE]
Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.
As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding [i]a few[/i] lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1159469]Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.
As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding [i]a few[/i] Lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all. [/QUOTE]Ah ok. I know where you mean but not who. I don't keep up with that other forum these days. Or even this one really. Just drop in once in awhile. 20? I had no idea there were nearly that many.
I thought of another reason I still like the HBT bars: the girls dress up sexy. I dig that. And if things click, you get to roam your hands right there, and see how much the girl is willing to do right there in the bar, or let me do in the bar. I like that part.
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1157250]Could you share with us your 'horrendous' experience? Was this a moto-girl FL or a SW standing on the bridge itself? By the way, its Xo Viet Nghe Tinh Street and Thi Nghe Bridge.[/QUOTE]Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.
I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a ***** fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.
I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff
[QUOTE=K Brew; 1160362]Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.
I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.
I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff[/QUOTE]This shit happens more often than you think, especially to foreigners. Mind telling us where 'this place' is so we can avoid?
[QUOTE=K Brew; 1160362]Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.
I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.
I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff[/QUOTE]Yeah, definitely not a good idea to start a fight there. I was in a similar situation there a few weeks back. XVNT has some nice lookers on the bikes but the service is really poor most of the time. You should really avoid those standing on the bridge or anywhere close to the bridge. Those are even worse than the bike girls and most of the time they are also users (be it out of free will or not.) Every time I asked one of those on the bridge they would ask me if I want to fuck them or want to do drugs with them. Should really avoid that bridge but if you feel lucky then go for the bike girls.
Hello, All,
Since I live in Q, PN I thought I would share in what's in my part of town for mongering. A local friend of mine took me out by the airport in the Korean area of Tan Binh dist. On Bai Vi Street (use Diadiem. Com or google maps)
There are a number of Korean barber shops that offer full service for 620k (120 to the house. 500 to the girl). There are comfortable rooms upstairs with showers, and a decent bed, and yes they actually change the sheets. The price for all of these places is the same, and they tend not to service locals, because they think they are all Five-O. They never haggle over the price, and you pay after you are done. The girls working there were slim, don't really care about cup size since I have lived here, and very accomodating. I took a shower with my girl post coituos, and ended up popping again. Just look for anyplace with frosted glass, and there is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. The fresh line up of girls comes in around 2pm, and it always seems to be the pick of the litter. If anyone needs anymore info just let me know.
[QUOTE=Expatriot; 1160947]Hello, All,
There is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. [/QUOTE]Must be one heck of a hair cut.
[QUOTE=Tim Em Xinh;1162002]Must be one heck of a hair cut.[/QUOTE]If you go upstairs it is a hell of a haircut, its worth the the trip out of Dist's 1, 2.3, 7, I know its Tan Binh but it is always guaranteed good time, with out the haggling
Expatriot, great find, thank you!
Any particular address you recommend? Also, how to do you get to choose the girls?
For all: I went to Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 today and there were closed for renovation, I suppose. I don't speak the language!
[QUOTE=Alex Sure; 1162483]Expatriot, great find, thank you!
Any particular address you recommend? Also, how to do you get to choose the girls?
For all: I went to Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 today and there were closed for renovation, I suppose. I don't speak the language! [/QUOTE]Just look for places with the frosted glass, when I go back I will get an address for you.
I'm new to the Ho Chi Minh parlor scene, and made some rookie mistakes on my first session, but hopefully you can benefit from my errors.
I went to the Hot Toc at 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh on a Sunday at 5pm. You can't see much from the street, but inside were about 6-7 girls. One immediately took my arm and hustled me upstairs; I assumed the girls would shortly be presented in a lineup for my selection, like they would in a Thai MP, but that wasn't the case (mistake #1). I should have dallied in the lobby a bit and got a better look, and then made my choice, but oh well.
I was lead to what looks like a hospital gurney and the girl took off my shirt, then wiped down my left hand and chest. After a perfunctory and unmemorable massage she pulls down my pants, takes off her panties and bra, wipes off my tool and gets to work. Though she wasn't the prettiest girl her bbj skills were quite good, certainly better than any I had in Cambodia, so I wasn't exactly suffering. I CIM and that's the end of it. I tip her 100k, which she seems happy with.
After I get dressed I'm lead back to the lobby and this is where mistake #2 comes into play: I should have negotiated a price first. The mamasan asks for 500k and I laugh in her face. After some more minutes of arguing I get her down to 200k for the room. I should really only be paying 100k, and probably could have gotten it I spent more time arguing, but life is short.
Now that I have some experience under my belt I'll be frequenting more MPs in the next week, so stay tuned.
Had nothing better to do so walked back to NPK, which is conveniently close to my hotel (Nam Tran; sadly it's not girl friendly). This time I walked the length of it starting from the east end and checked out every place that looked like it had action (4 total, including the one on 84 I just visited) , which was easy to discern as they were the only places open at 7:30pm on a Sunday.
First Hat Toc was on the north side, couldn't see the address, but it's got blue decor inside. I saw 8 girls. 2 of them doable. Now wiser, I offered 100k for room and 100k for girl. The papasan wanted 200k for room and 200k for girl. I tried to point out it was half that just down the street, but he wouldn't budge. So I walked.
Next place was on south side. Again, couldn't see address, wasn't even sure it was a massage place, but there was a group of men hanging out front that motioned me inside. There were only 2 girls, both plain looking, but I went along and upstairs thinking there might be more. There wasn't. It became apparent this wasn't a Hat Toc at all but some kinda drinking establishment. I quickly left before they could serve me overpriced drinks.
Walked past 84, which was still open, and on to the last place, at 111B on the south side. This one had 5 girls, all cute though, and the one escorting me was the hottest of them all so I followed her to a room. The room had 4 gurneys in it, and would be terrible for privacy but fortunately I was the only client there. I negotiated with the girl. 100k for room, but she wanted 200k for tip. She was hot though. 9/10 face. 8/10 body with B cups and only the slightest bit of weight on her waste, so I agreed. Same routine as before, perfunctory massage that looked more like she was playing a xylophone with my body, wipe, than on to business. She started out by licking my nipples while giving a HJ, than a BBJ while I pulled her panties down and played with her pussy, which from the feel of it had most of a Bush. As I just popped an hour ago it took me awhile to do so again, so I just laid back and enjoyed the sensations as she alternated using her hand and mouth. Finally I could take no more and came. After she cleaned me up and we got dressed, I gave her the 300k and asked to take her (non nude) picture. She agreed, and now I got a nice souvenir from my trip.
So would I repeat at 111B? The answer is Hell Yes!
Great reports Talon, Just seems that these 100k / 100k establishments have jacked up their prices to double or triple (and higher).100k = $5 though some will complain about the raised price, Perhaps due to increased non local traffic to their shops?
Just curious, would you return to the shop where the mamasan asked for 500k?
If it was me I'd make a note never to return simply on that basis of her greed. She could have had a regular 100k / day for XX days / weeks customer or just try and screw a first timer customer never to have them return. Still she come out on top charging double.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1162978]Great reports Talon, Just seems that these 100k / 100k establishments have jacked up their prices to double or triple (and higher).100k = $5 though some will complain about the raised price, Perhaps due to increased non local traffic to their shops?
Just curious, would you return to the shop where the mamasan asked for 500k?
If it was me I'd make a note never to return simply on that basis of her greed. She could have had a regular 100k / day for XX days / weeks customer or just try and screw a first timer customer never to have them return. Still she come out on top charging double. [/QUOTE]A few of girls at 84 were still very doable, and one of them had a nice rack, so I would go back, but I'd make damn sure to quote a price upfront. You probably can still get the same service for 200k total. Like I said, I was a noob going in, and they must have thought me to be an easy mark. As I'm quickly learning, Vietnamese are not above fleecing a foreigner if they think they can get away with it.
Even if I'm being taken advantage of, $15 for a bbj is a pretty sweet deal, and cheaper than any other action I got in Thailand and Cambodia.
It's a small mall out from the airport on the main road straight to the center on the right side, I just arrived and it's a 15 minutes walk, if you have luggage and in transit, just leave it at the luggage store outside the airport, take care because it's closing at 11 pm!
If you have a short stop in hcmc go there for a massage and steambath, the location is very clean, girls are nice with green or red mini (don't know the difference.) steambath, shower, some food and water. 1h foot massage from a 21 yo girl (I would say an 8) very cute slim big brest, very good massage. 1h body massage from the same girl, HJ offered smiling. 100. 000 tip, total 300. 000.
Good option instead of waiting in the airport!
[QUOTE=Latin;1164735][b]Super Bowl[/b][/QUOTE]Is the night club still there?
[QUOTE=Alex Sure;1162483]For all: I went to Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 today and there were closed for renovation, I suppose. I don't speak the language![/QUOTE]Please note that Blow 'and Go in District 7 is open again. Nothing new that I could see.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1164889]Is the night club still there?[/QUOTE]Oasis cafe is still there if you are referring to that (though we both know its not a nightclub but a hostess bar)
Upstairs is a theater, massage on the right as mentioned a couple posts below, To the left is a amusement arcade and kiddie land fun park
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1165692]Oasis cafe is still there if you are referring to that (though we both know its not a nightclub but a hostess bar)
Upstairs is a theater, massage on the right as mentioned a couple posts below, To the left is a amusement arcade and kiddie land fun park[/QUOTE]Oh no, not Oasis. Upstairs used to be a night club in the front. They did have hostess girls there too. Maybe it's gone. It was right at the top of the escalator that's in the front of Super Bowl. You would go to the very opposite end to go to the bowling alley.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1166099]Oh no, not Oasis. Upstairs used to be a night club in the front. They did have hostess girls there too. Maybe it's gone. It was right at the top of the escalator that's in the front of Super Bowl. You would go to the very opposite end to go to the bowling alley.[/QUOTE]Thats the live theater now I believe. Never knew there was a nightclub there previously.
I was in the italian resturant a few weeks ago now and chatting with the owners wife, She said it (superbowl) was supposed to be demolished and rebuilt hense them opening a new shop opposite their existing one. They can't get a confirmation of the date it will be knocked down.
[QUOTE=Expatriot; 1160947]Hello, All,
Since I live in Q, PN I thought I would share in what's in my part of town for mongering. A local friend of mine took me out by the airport in the Korean area of Tan Binh dist. On Bai Vi Street (use Diadiem. Com or google maps)
There are a number of Korean barber shops that offer full service for 620k (120 to the house. 500 to the girl). There are comfortable rooms upstairs with showers, and a decent bed, and yes they actually change the sheets. The price for all of these places is the same, and they tend not to service locals, because they, think they are all Five-O. They never haggle over the price, and you pay after you are done. The girls working there were slim, don't really care about cup size since I have lived here, and very accomodating. I took a shower with my girl post coituos, and ended up popping again. Just look for anyplace with frosted glass, and there is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. The fresh line up of girls comes in around 2pm, and it always seems to be the pick of the litter. If anyone needs anymore info just let me know. [/QUOTE]Hello, there Expatriot,
Is it Ba Vi Street by Thang Long Street near The Air Force Museum? Are those Korean Barber Shops serviced w / Korean or Viet girls? I will be in HCMC in a couple days.
There goes the best kept secret among long term expats living here. I wonder if the ticket price will go up like the other B"and"G that become popular after being splashed all over ISG.
[QUOTE=Fordmustang; 1166734]Hello, there Expatriot,
Is it Ba Vi Street by Thang Long Street near The Air Force Museum? Are those Korean Barber Shops serviced w / Korean or Viet girls? I will be in HCMC in a couple days.[/QUOTE]Yes over by the Airforce Museum.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1166774]There goes the best kept secret among long term expats living here. I wonder if the ticket price will go up like the other B"and"G that become popular after being splashed all over ISG.[/QUOTE]Not to burst your bubble, but it is not that well kept of a secret, every short timer I know knows about those places, you can ask the bell boy at any decent hotel, and he knows. I did a little survey, all you got to do is ask. Almost everyone knows about this. The short time tourists get ripped off enough around here, no need to add to the misery. There is more than one of them. I saw a small tour van full of Koreans pull up to one of the places one day. So if its a secret its a badly kept secret.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1166774]There goes the best kept secret among long term expats living here. I wonder if the ticket price will go up like the other B"and"G that become popular after being splashed all over ISG.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Talon; 1162779]Walked past 84, which was still open, and on to the last place, at 111B on.
I negotiated with the girl. 100k for room, but she wanted 200k for tip.
So would I repeat at 111B? The answer is Hell Yes! [/QUOTE]While driving around looking for a job, I stopped into this same place at around 12 noon. I've been in vietnam for 2 months now so I know VERY basic vietnamese. That, along with being dressed up and driving a motorbike, got me the whole thing for 200, 000. As soon as I walked in I asked a papasan "how much" in viet just to make sure. When I was done with the chick, she asked politely for a tip and I nodded as if to say "of course, dear!" But I said,"Viet tip. Not foreigner tip" and she looked at me as if to say "I understand sir. No problem." So 100, 000 for room, and 100, 000 to the lady.
The service was standard, but the only thing I didn't like was the lack of CIM.
Now I realize most short time visitors to saigon won't pop into these places looking as if they've lived here for long and know the game, but mark my words, if you stick to the mentioned prices on this forum and don't budge, they normally give in. Just try to look as if you know exactly what you should pay and it normally works out. And hey, f it doesn't, just walk down the street and try the next place. LOL.
Dear All,
I will be in HCM by next week, wonder if there is any massage parlours or BJ shop or girls for ST closer to Continental hotel? I have RTFF but not much familiar with those streets name mentioned here. So will be nice if some fellow can give some good nice direction.
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Macho Dik; 1169064]Dear All,
I will be in HCM by next week, wonder if there is any massage parlours or BJ shop or girls for ST closer to Continental hotel? I have RTFF but not much familiar with those streets name mentioned here. So will be nice if some fellow can give some good nice direction.
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]MD try and go to [url]www.diadiem.com[/url]
Its a online streetmap.
Type in some letters from the streetname and a dropdown list will appear. Choose the one your after and go from there.
Just got back from my first trip to HCM city. I was visiting a friend in Vung Tau, and only spent 1 night in HCM. I Was keen to get relief, but since I do not know HCM I just went into a massage place I passed on Le Thanh Ton. It looked quite respectable and has proper printed advertising material. Cost was 250, 000 for a 1 hour massage, with free access to a sauna, steam room, cold plunge and showers afterwards. I went upstairs and was met by a cute girl. Mid 20's, slim, pretty and nice boobs. No complaints at all. She led me to a room with 4 cubicles. I immediately thought there would be no extras, since almost no privacy. Stripped to my boxers, and she started to massage. It was quite good, strong hands, hot rocks and lots oil made the leg and back massage nice. When I rolled me over, the frontal massage was not as expert. She did however start to concentrate closer to my little man, and soon she was asking if I wanted extras. The answer was obviously yes. She asked for 800, 000. I offered her 400, 000 and we settled on 500, 000. She undid her bra and let me play with her boobs. Very nice, firm B cups and she licked my nipples. After 1 shot she hugged me briefly, and then continued the massage. After a few minutes she started me another HJ, and she guided my hands inside her panties. She was wet and seemed to like it. It was good but I was tired and could not complete. After a while she cleaned me up, and I headed off to the sauna room alone. Next time I am in HCM I hope to be better informed, but as an introduction it was OK.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1164889]Is the night club still there?[/QUOTE]No it's just a massage
Back when I did my research on ho chi minh massage parlors, I read a post that said that Khai Hoan was at the corner of Lam Van Ben and Nguyen Thi Thap. I drove around there yesterday and stopped right at the intersection and didn't see it. I drove around that area and couldn't for the life of me find it.
Am I just blind or do they have a really small sign?
If anybody could give me an address or perhaps more specific directions it would be very much appreciated.
Since this place seems to be the more interesting place to go in HCMC, does any one know their operating hours? Are they open from 10AM. 10PM like other BnG places?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Macho Dik; 1169064]Dear All,
I will be in HCM by next week, wonder if there is any massage parlours or BJ shop or girls for ST closer to Continental hotel? I have RTFF but not much familiar with those streets name mentioned here. So will be nice if some fellow can give some good nice direction.
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]Welcome to HCM city. I'm a local guy. Hiep is my name I go to BJ every week. You can call me and I can go with you (If I have time) I usually available on Mon, Wensday, and Fri evening. I and you can get some beer and we can go BJ together. I do it for fun. Not for money. If you want you can contact me. My email : [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] Welcome
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[QUOTE=Muse Fan; 1171794]Back when I did my research on ho chi minh massage parlors, I read a post that said that Khai Hoan was at the corner of Lam Van Ben and Nguyen Thi Thap. I drove around there yesterday and stopped right at the intersection and didn't see it. I drove around that area and couldn't for the life of me find it.
Am I just blind or do they have a really small sign?
If anybody could give me an address or perhaps more specific directions it would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you're going from Lotte Mart, you past Lam Van Ben about 100 meters it'll be on the right hand side.
[QUOTE=Whisper1;1172059]If you're going from Lotte Mart, you past Lam Van Ben about 100 meters it'll be on the right hand side.[/QUOTE]Address is 261 Nguyen Thi Thap
First of all, let me thank all the veterans on this forum for all the great information and help, especially JohnDao and Wendella. This was my very first trip to Vietnam and to HCMC. I only had a couple of days and nights and even those I was mostly booked for business meetings until pretty late into the night. So, I had very limited time and without this kind of information and preparation, it would have been practically impossible for me to have mongered on this trip. Enough preamble, now my experiences.
I had about a 2 hour window before my noon lunch meeting and decided that I was going to take the chance of visiting Khai Hoan after all the positive reports. This is truly a gem and even though I speak not a word of Vietnamese, I had a very satisfying experience. I was staying in District 1 and decided to take a motorcycle to this area. In order to not having to pay extra due to the motorcycle guy extracting from the store, I told him that I was meeting a friend there. He took me there and I asked him to stop a few places away that looked like a bank building and acted like I went in to it. This place is very easy to find if you follow all the directions and the address mentioned in the forum. I walked in and there were at least 4-5 cuties even at 10:30 AM in the morning. They all looked young and had good size breats which I like. I picked the one that looked the most friendly and I must say it was a very GFE experience that I had. After all the cleaning, we both stripped and then we were off to the races. We kissed a lot and I got to fondle her everywhere and she gave a great BBBJ. Apart from the fact that there is no intercourse and possibly no DATY (I didn't try too hard) , everything else was on the menu. As I said, I would highly recommend this place for the service as well as the quality of the girls.
The only blemish on this great experience was that when I finally was leaving and settling the bill, they asked for US$ 50! I started laughing and told her that a friend told me and that it is only 200K VND. That is what I gave her and walked out and she made some comment about how that was the old price and that it had gone up. I wish they didn't pull this kind of crap! So, be aware that the prices don't seem to be fixed and they will try to extort whatever they can. By the way, the motor cycle guy saw me going into the place and apparently tried to extract money anyway and I told her the he did not bring me to the store and that they should not give any money to him. These guys are sneaky.
Again, thanks a ton to the forum members for the information and giving us newbies to the country confidence to be able to monger successfully.
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1180291]. So, be aware that the prices don't seem to be fixed and they will try to extort whatever they can.[/QUOTE]Well, this sums up pretty nicely, the nature of commerce for the whole of Vietnam. ;)
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1180291]The only blemish on this great experience was that when I finally was leaving and settling the bill, they asked for US$ 50! I started laughing and told her that a friend told me and that it is only 200K VND. That is what I gave her and walked out and she made some comment about how that was the old price and that it had gone up. I wish they didn't pull this kind of crap! So, be aware that the prices don't seem to be fixed and they will try to extort whatever they can. By the way, the motor cycle guy saw me going into the place and apparently tried to extract money anyway and I told her the he did not bring me to the store and that they should not give any money to him. These guys are sneaky.[/QUOTE]ATTAH BOY! Don't budge from the rates on this forum. Stand your ground any they will succumb. And FUCK those motorbike guys.
Oh, and DATY depends on the girl I believe. I went last week and the girl took it upon herself to place her pussy right in front of my face 69-style. I fingered her but didn't munch.
One thing though, I didn't like that she didn't do CIM. I kinda enjoy blowing my load in the back of a gal's throat, you know.
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1180291]The only blemish on this great experience was that when I finally was leaving and settling the bill, they asked for US$ 50! I started laughing and told her that a friend told me and that it is only 200K VND. That is what I gave her and walked out and she made some comment about how that was the old price and that it had gone up. .[/QUOTE]One could always ask her if the NEW PRICE has been deposited to the local Chamber of Commerce, LOL. Lame excuse she had. In such a market the price is made by demand / offer.
[QUOTE=Muse Fan; 1180948]ATTAH BOY! Don't budge from the rates on this forum. Stand your ground any they will succumb. And FUCK those motorbike guys.
Oh, and DATY depends on the girl I believe. I went last week and the girl took it upon herself to place her pussy right in front of my face 69-style. I fingered her but didn't munch.
One thing though, I didn't like that she didn't do CIM. I kinda enjoy blowing my load in the back of a gal's throat, you know.[/QUOTE]I think in general it is hard for a total newbie in a foreign country to stand his ground and I have to say it was a bit uncomfortable for me. Glad that they backed down pretty quickly, otherwise I would have been flustered!
In terms of CIM, I had a parital CIM but you are right in that it doesn't seem to be the norm. I think I surprised her and she took the first couple of shots and then promptly put the towel in place of her warm mouth. Oh well.
[QUOTE=ImaHore;1169177]Just got back from my first trip to HCM city. I was visiting a friend in Vung Tau, and only spent 1 night in HCM. I Was keen to get relief, but since I do not know HCM I just went into a massage place I passed on Le Thanh Ton. It looked quite respectable and has proper printed advertising material. Cost was 250, 000 for a 1 hour massage, with free access to a sauna, steam room, cold plunge and showers afterwards. I went upstairs and was met by a cute girl. Mid 20's, slim, pretty and nice boobs. No complaints at all. She led me to a room with 4 cubicles. I immediately thought there would be no extras, since almost no privacy. Stripped to my boxers, and she started to massage. It was quite good, strong hands, hot rocks and lots oil made the leg and back massage nice. When I rolled me over, the frontal massage was not as expert. She did however start to concentrate closer to my little man, and soon she was asking if I wanted extras. The answer was obviously yes. She asked for 800, 000. I offered her 400, 000 and we settled on 500, 000. She undid her bra and let me play with her boobs. Very nice, firm B cups and she licked my nipples. After 1 shot she hugged me briefly, and then continued the massage. After a few minutes she started me another HJ, and she guided my hands inside her panties. She was wet and seemed to like it. It was good but I was tired and could not complete. After a while she cleaned me up, and I headed off to the sauna room alone. Next time I am in HCM I hope to be better informed, but as an introduction it was OK.[/QUOTE]Le Thanh Ton is quite long street. Can you be more precise please?
I checked out this street that Expatriot mentioned a little while back.
It's a pretty short street and I believe expat mentioned there was a small number of korean barbershops there, but I only saw one and it stood out. It had the barbershop blue and red swirly poles and all.
Anyways, I went with a friend on my motorbike. Not hard to find. Walked in at about 930 at night. About maybe 8 or 9 girls available. Some decent, some ok, and 1 that I thought was really cute. I picked the cute one. Her name was Ly. 20 yrs old. When we get in she walks away to get me some water and condoms I guess. Took her about 10 minutes. Then we take a short shower with COLD water. She does BBBJ, fuck in different postitions, we kissed maybe twice, but she let me suck all over her and let me do what I wanted. She never rushed me, never complained.
Afterwards, she looked at me maybe hoping that I would put on my clothes and leave, but I asked for a massage. She obliged without a problem. Not a bad massage. She did my whole backside first for 10-15 minutes. Then she got up and I asked for the frontside. She obliged with no problem yet again. Then I put on my clothes and left.
Now. Here is the cool part. When I paid downstairs at the desk, I paid 620, 000 which was what I thought I saw quoted by expat. I heard of maybe 600, 000 from someone else, but wasn't sure which to pay since it was my first time.
The lady counts the money, then looks up at me and hands me back the 20, 000. I know it's not a big difference, but from most of my experiences here in siagon, most people would gladly pocket the money and try to take more.
All in all a good experience. I would definitely return.
Hello, all, I'm a newbie to posting, been lurking for a week or so. I've read that there have been a couple raids at various places around town. Does anybody know what happens to an expat if your inside one of these places when it gets raided? If your not caught with your pants down do they let you go home? If pants are down are you taken to jail and put in the local newspaper?
I know the chances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time are slim, but it is a risk.
Is there a fine? Do you just give the local cop on the scene a couple hundred k?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1009855]Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say. 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.[/QUOTE]I googled this street many times, but I don't see it on the map anywhere, zoomed in and out. The map is showing me somewhere off CMT8 past 3/2 street. Is that the right area? Do you know what district or near a cross street?
I'm new to this forum, but want to contribute at least something. Some people on here say don't discuss price at all, just have her do her thing, then pay the amount on this board. I myself am not comfortable with that, as there are also many reports on here about disasters regarding surprise final bills in the 500k and up range. So for myself, when I go "massage" hunting I always clarify the price up front, I don't want any surprises and I don't want to talk about it during the massage. I can personally relax more this way. Second, I often ask the manager / mamasan if I can see the room. If it's a new place, and my first time I ask if I can see the room. Then I get an idea of the layout, room size, cleanliness, privacy etc. Because I also don't want to be in the same room with another guy. I want a private room. Most of the time, the massage girl herself will escort me to "see" the room. This is good because I can ask her if there are any "extras" before I commit to the massage. If no, than I don't waste my time / money. If yes, we can negotiate right there on the spot before I commit to anything.
Hope that helps!
[QUOTE=Muse Fan; 1181719]I checked out this street that Expatriot mentioned a little while back.
It's a pretty short street and I believe expat mentioned there was a small number of korean barbershops there, but I only saw one and it stood out. It had the barbershop blue and red swirly poles and all.
Anyways, I went with a friend on my motorbike. Not hard to find. Walked in at about 930 at night. About maybe 8 or 9 girls available. Some decent, some ok, and 1 that I thought was really cute. I picked the cute one. Her name was Ly. 20 yrs old. When we get in she walks away to get me some water and condoms I guess. Took her about 10 minutes. Then we take a short shower with COLD water. She does BBBJ, fuck in different postitions, we kissed maybe twice, but she let me suck all over her and let me do what I wanted. She never rushed me, never complained.
Afterwards, she looked at me maybe hoping that I would put on my clothes and leave, but I asked for a massage. She obliged without a problem. Not a bad massage. She did my whole backside first for 10-15 minutes. Then she got up and I asked for the frontside. She obliged with no problem yet again. Then I put on my clothes and left.
Now. Here is the cool part. When I paid downstairs at the desk, I paid 620, 000 which was what I thought I saw quoted by expat. I heard of maybe 600, 000 from someone else, but wasn't sure which to pay since it was my first time.
The lady counts the money, then looks up at me and hands me back the 20, 000. I know it's not a big difference, but from most of my experiences here in siagon, most people would gladly pocket the money and try to take more.
All in all a good experience. I would definitely return.[/QUOTE]You are one lucky dude. Although I have never personally been ripped off in the mongering scene, I have encountered many attempts to overcharge me in food stalls and some outlets just because they realised I am a foreigner, which is not immediately obvious as I am Chinese. But most of these happened in DISTRICT ONE only while those in DISTRICT FIVE generally give me no issue at all. I have ate in many sidewalk hawkers and pay the normal price.
[QUOTE=Ishtar123;1181898]I googled this street many times, but I don't see it on the map anywhere, zoomed in and out. The map is showing me somewhere off CMT8 past 3/2 street. Is that the right area? Do you know what district or near a cross street?[/QUOTE]"This street"? Maybe you didn't notice that you didn't include the name of the street. Lucky for you I have ESP and therefore know you're trying to find Dinh Cong Trang street. (either that or I clicked the link to the post you quoted, which had the street name in its title. Titles don't become part of the quoted post.) That Icarus guy misspelled the name of the street, missed the final G on the last part.
Anyway, go to this website [url]http://www.diadiem.com/[/url] And put in the correct name and you'll find it, still in District 1 up off Hai Ba Trung, a very narrow side street (alley really) running parallel to Vo Thi Sau, between that street and Tan Dinh market.
well i tried one of the cafe om's across from the entrance of dam sen park. didn't get the name, sorry. it's got plants around the entrance, dark and hard to see inside. park the motorbike inside the cafe, which is nice so it's not noticeable from the street. then another archway type of entrance again lined with plant-life. i sat in the back with my girl, who was about a 4-5. she rubbed on me, played with my nipples, sucked on them too and rubbed jr. through my pants. she allowed me finger access to her hairy love muffin for a few minutes down the back of her shorts and some titty feel. that's it! no hj, nothing else. i asked about hj, she said no several times. so i had this and a cafe sua the all for 100k. i protested the 100k bill without a hj. but she said the coffee was 35, 000 and the remaining 65, 000 was tip i guess. all in all 100k is not a lot. but i left hornier than when i came in. is that the point of these places? ugh. been to one on minh phuong twice, hj both times, although second time the girl gave hj like her arm was a high speed robotic device. too rushed in my opinion, and she damaged the skin on jr, had to wait 3-4 days before i could get back into action because of healing time! by the way, minh phuon was 150k both times, including drink.
ishtar
[QUOTE=Sad Sam; 1181102]I think in general it is hard for a total newbie in a foreign country to stand his ground and I have to say it was a bit uncomfortable for me. Glad that they backed down pretty quickly, otherwise I would have been flustered!
In terms of CIM, I had a parital CIM but you are right in that it doesn't seem to be the norm. I think I surprised her and she took the first couple of shots and then promptly put the towel in place of her warm mouth. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I took a friend today. The experience was pretty much the same. But this time there was only one 1 thing different.
As I was finishing I told my friend to wait for me before he went to the front desk. He's shy and I was worried that maybe his girl might try to over charge him somehow. We go out to the front desk and last time there was a guy there who didn't pay me any attention as I placed the 200, 000 dong on the table. He said nothing and I walked out. But THIS time there wasn't anyone there. My friend's girl goes by the desk and she asks for 300, 000 with a smile. I give her a quick look and realize what she's trying to do. Fuck that. I pull out my cash that I keep in a rubber band, and she actually offers to take my bundle and sift out the 300, 000 for me. [url]AWWWWW[/url], what a fucking sweetheart, right. I give her the look and throw 200, 000 on the table and tell my friend to do the same. She says a few words with a smile, I believe she was still trying to ask for 300, 000. But I told her no, I know the rate, and to quit fucking around. She gets the point and doesn't bring it up again.
Don't budge. Stick to the rate. And god bless.
I was wondering what others think about DATY with SW's? I did some quick reading of posts on the internet, (Google Search) and I found that it seems like the VAST majority of people say that DATY with a SW is NASTY, GROSS, and all kinds of other such words. The reasons for this are pretty obvious I guess, because of the unknown number of customers they have in a day.
For me, I like it and it makes it MUCH more exciting for me. Like a GFE. The quick B&G's on DBP aren't really my thing, it's over so fast with a little touchy feely that it's not so memorable.
I prefer a previously mentioned MP in Q7, the girls get completely naked and climb up on the table with you. A lot of body to body contact, kissing, licking, etc. It's with these girls that I like to DATY. I have never yet had a FS anywhere. The Q7 MP girls offer everything except FS.
My question is that I ask myself if it's really safe to DATY. I researched a ton and found out that the really dangerous one (HIV) is very difficult to transmit from woman to man. The other stuff can all be cured. Also, Gonorrhea is also very difficult to transmit from pussy to mouth because it lives deep in the cervix.
(Sorry for the unpleasant subject matter)
At this particular MP, I asked if I could FS with them. They said no. It wasn't on offer. I've had 3 different girls here (seen the same girls a few times) and none would FS. I also asked for phone number and if they would go to a hotel with me, again, all 3 said no hotel.
So I'm thinking that they won't (or usually won't) FS with anybody else either, and therefor DATY is not so disgusting, because nobody is FS them. That is my logic, that DATY with a SW is not nasty if the SW is not FS. I imagine at the very most, others are also DATY with her, but these girls do a good job of showering and washing right after the fun, and there's no bodily fluids up inside them.
Whereas if I was to go to the Korean area for FS at the barber shop, I might be inclined to FS, but not to DATY. Again, it's because who knows how many Little Smokey's they've had inside them just before you. It's difficult for them to wash up inside thoroughly, etc.
So that's my logic, if I am able to assume the SW is not FS, (by me asking her myself if she will FS, and she says no) then I feel okay to DATY. If it is a FS SW, then I feel that DATY might not be the best idea, and just go for the FS only. (However, as it really excites me, I'd like to DATY) Anyway, I haven't done a FS yet.
I'm curious to know if anybody else uses such logic as I described above, or if anybody else has thought about it the same way? Or am I alone in thinking like this?
[QUOTE=Ishtar123; 1183013]I was wondering what others think about DATY with SW's? I did some quick reading of posts on the internet, (Google Search) and I found that it seems like the VAST majority of people say that DATY with a SW is NASTY, GROSS, and all kinds of other such words. The reasons for this are pretty obvious I guess, because of the unknown number of customers they have in a day.
For me, I like it and it makes it MUCH more exciting for me. Like a GFE. The quick B&G's on DBP aren't really my thing, it's over so fast with a little touchy feely that it's not so memorable.
I prefer a previously mentioned MP in Q7, the girls get completely naked and climb up on the table with you. A lot of body to body contact, kissing, licking, etc. It's with these girls that I like to DATY. I have never yet had a FS anywhere. The Q7 MP girls offer everything except FS.
My question is that I ask myself if it's really safe to DATY. I researched a ton and found out that the really dangerous one (HIV) is very difficult to transmit from woman to man. The other stuff can all be cured. Also, Gonorrhea is also very difficult to transmit from pussy to mouth because it lives deep in the cervix.
(Sorry for the unpleasant subject matter)
At this particular MP, I asked if I could FS with them. They said no. It wasn't on offer. I've had 3 different girls here (seen the same girls a few times) and none would FS. I also asked for phone number and if they would go to a hotel with me, again, all 3 said no hotel.
So I'm thinking that they won't (or usually won't) FS with anybody else either, and therefor DATY is not so disgusting, because nobody is FS them. That is my logic, that DATY with a SW is not nasty if the SW is not FS. I imagine at the very most, others are also DATY with her, but these girls do a good job of showering and washing right after the fun, and there's no bodily fluids up inside them.
Whereas if I was to go to the Korean area for FS at the barber shop, I might be inclined to FS, but not to DATY. Again, it's because who knows how many Little Smokey's they've had inside them just before you. It's difficult for them to wash up inside thoroughly, etc.
So that's my logic, if I am able to assume the SW is not FS, (by me asking her myself if she will FS, and she says no) then I feel okay to DATY. If it is a FS SW, then I feel that DATY might not be the best idea, and just go for the FS only. (However, as it really excites me, I'd like to DATY) Anyway, I haven't done a FS yet.
I'm curious to know if anybody else uses such logic as I described above, or if anybody else has thought about it the same way? Or am I alone in thinking like this?[/QUOTE]Remarkable. I suggest you make an appointment with a psychologist and ask his / her opinion instead.
Thanks Raverboy for your brilliant insight to my sincere post about others' opinions on the subject and welcome to the forum! I see you wouldn't take the time to give your own personal opinion, rather an insincere poke and an attempt at insult. Nice to meet you too!
Do they even have psych doctors in Vietnam? I didn't think they were that advanced yet? They barely understand basic medicine yet, let alone intangible mental health.
It looks like I won't be welcome here, maybe I'll just go back to lurking and avoid posting any future reports and / or contributing to the forum.
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1183113]Remarkable. I suggest you make an appointment with a psychologist and ask his / her opinion instead.[/QUOTE]Why be abusive? Why discourage people from posting?
[QUOTE=Milkweed;1183205]Why be abusive? Why discourage people from posting?[/QUOTE]9 paragraphs on the seemingly intricate logic behind a decision to DATY or not to DATY, on a commercial sex forum.
And you think I was abusive?
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1183215]9 paragraphs on the seemingly intricate logic behind a decision to DATY or not to DATY, on a commercial sex forum.
And you think I was abusive?[/QUOTE]I think you quoting his entire post was abusive.
Anyway regardless of the girl, if you want to go for the growl then do it, if not then don't.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1183215]9 paragraphs on the seemingly intricate logic behind a decision to DATY or not to DATY, on a commercial sex forum.
And you think I was abusive?[/QUOTE]You must be right ravenboy. You are a senior member and your wisdom is as such also. I read all 54 pages of the thread before I made my first post. (something you guys repeatedly ask people to do when they ask stupid questions) I didn't think my 9 paragraphs (although I didn't count them before I posted and I only separated them as paragraphs to make reading easier, rather than a long continuous post) compared to the almost 2 pages of fighting that are in this thread somewhere back in the middle.
As opposed to the fighting, my post was on topic and didn't violate any rules of the forum to my knowledge. It was also not a duplicate post / idea of a historical post.
In a perfect world, it would be nice if people respected one another. If you wished to opine on the subject matter, then your welcome to give your opinion. If you didn't think it was something that needed your input, then you should have let it go, rather than insulting me.
As I usually bike door-to-door I am not sure how many street offers I miss, but last night I was randomly without wheels and walking around the Ton That Thiep area. Predictably I was solicited with xe om offers aplenty, but quickly followed by "boom boom / beautiful lady" whispers. I am in this area alot and this was new to me. It was late and I was hungry so I waved off the touts and grabbed a table at the all night Chinese diner off Pasteur around the corner from No. 5 bar.
Next door was the Ho Hotel in question, where, during my snack, I watched some dudes roll in quickly and conspicuously followed by taxis and xe oms filled with scantily clad tarts. My beer goggles were on, and I sadly watched a few of the "hotties" go as quickly as they arrived.
Always one to dispel the proverb "Curiosity Killed the Cat", I paid my bill and wandered over to the
Open brightly lit lobby, I was quoted 40$/1 hour, and shown a couple girls who were average, beer goggles and all. There was one long legged young "redhead" who took my eye, however, and I indicated my interest despite her bad body language. I paid up at counter and went up the lift with her, where her body language just continued to get worse, despite the promises made by the pimps.
She just wasn't down, and being as sauced as I was, I needed a bit of teasing, something besides ice cold hostility at the very least! So back down the lift we went, where I said she "just doesn't want to go" and demanded satisfaction.
The sat me down and promised more lovelies were soon to appear. A few did and they were subpar. Finally one looked good and they claimed she was the last (never did see the "hotties" I'd spotted while eating) so I gave in and we went up. Stripped and showered and then to the bed, where she just kind of scowled and urged the business to get going. I needed some foreplay but she just shrieked "sex now condom!", which killed any lingering horn that may have existed.
That was that, I just got up and dressed and beat her to the lift. Downstairs they refused to refund me,"you had two girls." Well, not really, I had two harpies who didn't want to be there! (I'm not bad looking by the way) I told him that he could make me happy and I'd shut my mouth, or he could have one unsatisfied shopper who would tell everyone the news. Of course, around here they don't exactly get that concept; I just walked out furiously.
The irony is on me though, as I usually mock my friends who overpay for drunken bad sex late at night. There are so many better options!
Lesson learned. Steer clear!
First, big ups to wendella and others keeping this board informed and well kept.
This is SWIM's account of HCMC; guidebook current August 2011. I've divided each analysis into category;
Blow and go: Places for BBJ, CIM type stuff. 1.) Ben Ne's on DBP. Not hard to find, once you got around the round about, its on a very large three divided highway, once you're around a large bridge / highway thing, you're there. Easy to find. This is by far the tops in the city. Although my good local friend lives around that area which I guess is basically FULL Of these places. I speak fluent VN and know many local young guys so you find out where there is one Ben Ne's, there are like another 600. I guess a new place opened with much younger and more beautiful although inexperienced girls. He told me the street but haven't' checked out yet. Will soon and report. Be Ne itself is still go ol' reliable. Girls are always good 5-7 range, cuter usually not as experienced, some good MILF action though is best, some true talented girls. 200k, sometimes I go up to 250 if she showed some GFE or emotion in any way. The other places near are about the same, but for value and talent, Ben Ne all day. Although I haven't been here since they moved locations about 8 months ago, so can't report on new location.
2.) 261 Thi Thap, D7. This place is also recommended. If you're in town on business, this is more difficult to get to than the Blow and Go in district BT, but not much. Also great place. Girls aren't usually as pretty, talented or numerous as Ben Ne, but a bit more emotional and for the price ( 200k) , can't be beat as well. Good choice if you're farther south.
Bars for foreigners: the price points here get tricky. If you want a FS typical girl that can't speak english, aren't picky, go elsewhere, no problem, so many karaokes, bia om's, cafe om's that are all over the place. Just ask a local friend or ask someone on the forum or read the forum. Don't ask local xe om guys, they'll want a cut. These are so numerous, but more tricky to find, may take longer and only have 70% success rate. Now back to FS HBT, LTT areas. These are meant for RICH japanese men and white tourists who crave a little piece for the first time. WAY OVERPRICED. NOW, let me say that I think sometimes this forum is a bit too picky with price. If you can get the service you want, with a beauty, exactly what you need to relieve some stress, don't fucking cry over an extra 100k or 500k for FS LT girl. Whatever you know, these girls are giving their EVERYTHInG to you for chump change, appreciate it.
BUT. Having said that. These places are hit and miss. Most of these places pile on drinks. My advice is go in early 730-9pm and go straight in, get the girl in 2 minutes, settle on a price and get out. I don't get the guys that like a little fondling and then book and just tip for some playfulness, most of the girls here are cold in my book, better to get them out of the "office" and ST it. Just my opinion.
1.) 91 HBT. The best of the best. PsshhhhHHHHH NOT. This place is good, young girls or old girls with silicon. Easy to be happy, but not VERY happy. I found by the second time here that they all seemed ok. All 7's. Not many 9-10's, well none usually. Trying to bargain here is stupid unless its later in the day and they want more money. 100-120 USD for 2 hours, barfine, drinks is common. Not totally worth it, but guarnateed, easy, cute girls, most will try somewhat, no GFE for sure, but not like dead sack of potatoes. This bar is cleaner than it used to be. Overall. Overrated. I'd avoid this one, cold COLD COLD.
2.) 51/53HBT. 23DK. These are similar to 91. Some icey girls. Some annoying times, but more likely to find stunning girl willing to negotiate. Prices are much more flexible. But girls are not all stunners. Well 91 doesn't have many of those anyways, really just have to be smart. Instead of 8 good picks, you'll get 2-3 here, but they are top level and more willing to work with you. Bars tend to have better service.
3.) Bin Bin, also good. Mix of high prices and good girls. Also good, good # of girls, some nights are total wins some are total loses.
Most of the other bars, smileys, etc, aren't worth mentioning. Go to the # bars.
Again, its all preferences. If you want any type of GFE, you won't' find it here unless you're willing to be very upfront about giving full price or more. If you've got a pocket of dough, go for it, by all means, sometimes going here and dropping a 20% premium above street prices will get the girl very excited and treat you well. Sometimes you pay good street value like 1-1. 3Mil for ST and they still treat you like shit, even though that is an amazing salary for 1-2 hours work. Bullshit. If you don't speak VN though, these places are good, the girls will know how to talk in basic communication with you. I like, sometimes its lovely, but only 1 out of every 5 times. Usually leaves bad feeling in mouth, and I'm not even one needing any type of GFE here, just the level of greed is crazy. For what they can get from tourist / businessmen, they should worship the ground of their clients for those 2 hours, instead its just greed greed blah.
Hand fun. For good massage, the city has some good places. I enjoy this a bit actually, nothing like getting the body blood and energy flowing right before lift-off, better than 5 minute blow and go. Usually.
1.) Rona in D1 is good for convenient location. Girls are pretty, some don't' care and give half assed massage and decent finish, some work hard on both ends. Girls are pretty. Damage is 180k entry and 200k tip (less is inhuman for massage and finishing service). VIP rooms 550k plus 300-400k tip. You can easily talk them down on the base price here. Overall the place is expensive, especially for non BBJ or ST / LT FS type things, but for more actual full body care and relaxation, its a good time.
2.) Vien Khuong or whatever on PNL, girls more evil. Not as hot. Still ok service. Rona I like because they never ask about tip till after. You could easily go for 180k and fuck them on the tip and get a one time service for cheap with massage. This place leess easy for that. These girls should be treated a bit nicer though, I had an ex that was a non service type massaage girl and that shit is hard work, tip them ok here, most are young non "working" girl types, just come from country side and need easy money.
Overall not very good GFE experience here, but more what I call "good" girls. Best FS and beauty comes from HBT / LTT area bars, but the girls are SO evil that it sometimes makes it so less than desirable. Nothing like killing your cranes ability to stand up than some girl digging an extra $6 on top of an already highly inflated bill.
This is my analysis. There is a nice place in Thu Duc. Not sure of address. Its far away. Maybe 1 hour from center. They do FS, including light massage and full shower. Very cheap. 300-350k for total EVERYTHIng, not sure of name or address though. Been there a efw times but always rode with good friend, not sure how to say how to get there. If you get on DBP on way to ben ne, etc, but KEEP going you'll get on the highway towards dong nai. I had a GF lived 2 hours out that way so I drove this a few times. Out towwards Bien Hoa, Dong Nai have so many of these places but never tried, but saw many. Sure they are cheap, but not as beautiful as local places in the city. All depends on taste really. If money is no object, overpay a HBT / LTT girl and expect some hot body that does the job. Here I usually make them do some type of BBJ / CIM / striptease, make them do all the work. To me nothing feels worse than dropping major bank on a girl then having to do all the work on her lifeless body. [url]ewwww.[/url] Want a cold beauty, go to 91 or Bin bin, though Bin Bin is slightly better. Other smaller bars will be dirtier and more hit and miss, but price will be better, and each bar usually has 1-2 lookers for sure, or at least in their makeup and outfits.
Those wanting BBJ should go to DBP area, it has many places, many I don't' know about. Keep looking and asking, they are all around. Like I said my good friend lives right there and he says there are dozens, unfortunately he NEVER goes so he couldn't give a better critique. Ben NE is best bet though, open, good # of girls, some lookers, enough to make the price a good deal.
For those wanting more pampering I suggest Rona. Not all good, but 90% are high level CUTE! Which is rare, and 50% do good high level massage, won't take off clothes, against the rules, but you can put your hands anywhere basically so its ok.
First, big ups to wendella and others keeping this board informed and well kept.
This is SWIM's account of HCMC; guidebook current August 2011. I've divided each analysis into category;
Blow and go: Places for BBJ, CIM type stuff. 1.) Ben Ne's on DBP. Not hard to find, once you got around the round about, its on a very large three divided highway, once you're around a large bridge / highway thing, you're there. Easy to find. This is by far the tops in the city. Although my good local friend lives around that area which I guess is basically FULL Of these places. I speak fluent VN and know many local young guys so you find out where there is one Ben Ne's, there are like another 600. I guess a new place opened with much younger and more beautiful although inexperienced girls. He told me the street but haven't' checked out yet. Will soon and report. Be Ne itself is still go ol' reliable. Girls are always good 5-7 range, cuter usually not as experienced, some good MILF action though is best, some true talented girls. 200k, sometimes I go up to 250 if she showed some GFE or emotion in any way. The other places near are about the same, but for value and talent, Ben Ne all day. Although I haven't been here since they moved locations about 8 months ago, so can't report on new location.
2.) 261 Thi Thap, D7. This place is also recommended. If you're in town on business, this is more difficult to get to than the Blow and Go in district BT, but not much. Also great place. Girls aren't usually as pretty, talented or numerous as Ben Ne, but a bit more emotional and for the price ( 200k) , can't be beat as well. Good choice if you're farther south.
Bars for foreigners: the price points here get tricky. If you want a FS typical girl that can't speak english, aren't picky, go elsewhere, no problem, so many karaokes, bia om's, cafe om's that are all over the place. Just ask a local friend or ask someone on the forum or read the forum. Don't ask local xe om guys, they'll want a cut. These are so numerous, but more tricky to find, may take longer and only have 70% success rate. Now back to FS HBT, LTT areas. These are meant for RICH japanese men and white tourists who crave a little piece for the first time. WAY OVERPRICED. NOW, let me say that I think sometimes this forum is a bit too picky with price. If you can get the service you want, with a beauty, exactly what you need to relieve some stress, don't fucking cry over an extra 100k or 500k for FS LT girl. Whatever you know, these girls are giving their EVERYTHInG to you for chump change, appreciate it.
BUT. Having said that. These places are hit and miss. Most of these places pile on drinks. My advice is go in early 730-9pm and go straight in, get the girl in 2 minutes, settle on a price and get out. I don't get the guys that like a little fondling and then book and just tip for some playfulness, most of the girls here are cold in my book, better to get them out of the "office" and ST it. Just my opinion.
1.) 91 HBT. The best of the best. PsshhhhHHHHH NOT. This place is good, young girls or old girls with silicon. Easy to be happy, but not VERY happy. I found by the second time here that they all seemed ok. All 7's. Not many 9-10's, well none usually. Trying to bargain here is stupid unless its later in the day and they want more money. 100-120 USD for 2 hours, barfine, drinks is common. Not totally worth it, but guarnateed, easy, cute girls, most will try somewhat, no GFE for sure, but not like dead sack of potatoes. This bar is cleaner than it used to be. Overall. Overrated. I'd avoid this one, cold COLD COLD.
2.) 51/53HBT. 23DK. These are similar to 91. Some icey girls. Some annoying times, but more likely to find stunning girl willing to negotiate. Prices are much more flexible. But girls are not all stunners. Well 91 doesn't have many of those anyways, really just have to be smart. Instead of 8 good picks, you'll get 2-3 here, but they are top level and more willing to work with you. Bars tend to have better service.
3.) Bin Bin, also good. Mix of high prices and good girls. Also good, good # of girls, some nights are total wins some are total loses.
Most of the other bars, smileys, etc, aren't worth mentioning. Go to the # bars.
Again, its all preferences. If you want any type of GFE, you won't' find it here unless you're willing to be very upfront about giving full price or more. If you've got a pocket of dough, go for it, by all means, sometimes going here and dropping a 20% premium above street prices will get the girl very excited and treat you well. Sometimes you pay good street value like 1-1. 3Mil for ST and they still treat you like shit, even though that is an amazing salary for 1-2 hours work. Bullshit. If you don't speak VN though, these places are good, the girls will know how to talk in basic communication with you. I like, sometimes its lovely, but only 1 out of every 5 times. Usually leaves bad feeling in mouth, and I'm not even one needing any type of GFE here, just the level of greed is crazy. For what they can get from tourist / businessmen, they should worship the ground of their clients for those 2 hours, instead its just greed greed blah.
Hand fun. For good massage, the city has some good places. I enjoy this a bit actually, nothing like getting the body blood and energy flowing right before lift-off, better than 5 minute blow and go. Usually.
1.) Rona in D1 is good for convenient location. Girls are pretty, some don't' care and give half assed massage and decent finish, some work hard on both ends. Girls are pretty. Damage is 180k entry and 200k tip (less is inhuman for massage and finishing service). VIP rooms 550k plus 300-400k tip. You can easily talk them down on the base price here. Overall the place is expensive, especially for non BBJ or ST / LT FS type things, but for more actual full body care and relaxation, its a good time.
2.) Vien Khuong or whatever on PNL, girls more evil. Not as hot. Still ok service. Rona I like because they never ask about tip till after. You could easily go for 180k and fuck them on the tip and get a one time service for cheap with massage. This place leess easy for that. These girls should be treated a bit nicer though, I had an ex that was a non service type massaage girl and that shit is hard work, tip them ok here, most are young non "working" girl types, just come from country side and need easy money.
Overall not very good GFE experience here, but more what I call "good" girls. Best FS and beauty comes from HBT / LTT area bars, but the girls are SO evil that it sometimes makes it so less than desirable. Nothing like killing your cranes ability to stand up than some girl digging an extra $6 on top of an already highly inflated bill.
This is my analysis. There is a nice place in Thu Duc. Not sure of address. Its far away. Maybe 1 hour from center. They do FS, including light massage and full shower. Very cheap. 300-350k for total EVERYTHIng, not sure of name or address though. Been there a efw times but always rode with good friend, not sure how to say how to get there. If you get on DBP on way to ben ne, etc, but KEEP going you'll get on the highway towards dong nai. I had a GF lived 2 hours out that way so I drove this a few times. Out towwards Bien Hoa, Dong Nai have so many of these places but never tried, but saw many. Sure they are cheap, but not as beautiful as local places in the city. All depends on taste really. If money is no object, overpay a HBT / LTT girl and expect some hot body that does the job. Here I usually make them do some type of BBJ / CIM / striptease, make them do all the work. To me nothing feels worse than dropping major bank on a girl then having to do all the work on her lifeless body. [url]ewwww.[/url] Want a cold beauty, go to 91 or Bin bin, though Bin Bin is slightly better. Other smaller bars will be dirtier and more hit and miss, but price will be better, and each bar usually has 1-2 lookers for sure, or at least in their makeup and outfits.
Those wanting BBJ should go to DBP area, it has many places, many I don't' know about. Keep looking and asking, they are all around. Like I said my good friend lives right there and he says there are dozens, unfortunately he NEVER goes so he couldn't give a better critique. Ben NE is best bet though, open, good # of girls, some lookers, enough to make the price a good deal.
For those wanting more pampering I suggest Rona. Not all good, but 90% are high level CUTE! Which is rare, and 50% do good high level massage, won't take off clothes, against the rules, but you can put your hands anywhere basically so its ok. Its totally overpriced, but its not going to break the bank, and its got good service, generally ok clean area if this is your thing, good for tourists as it is great location.
[QUOTE=TheDrizlet;1183614]Trying to bargain here is stupid unless its later in the day and they want more money. 100-120 USD for 2 hours, barfine, drinks is common. Not totally worth it, but guarnateed, easy, cute girls, most will try somewhat, no GFE for sure, but not like dead sack of potatoes.[/quote][QUOTE=TheDrizlet;1183614]Sometimes you pay good street value like 1-1. 3Mil for ST and they still treat you like shit, even though that is an amazing salary for 1-2 hours work. Bullshit.[/quote]Your review is pretty much spot on in my experience, many of the girls can be ice cold. Then others are hands all over you trying to get business (feels very calculated though, they just want barfine asap, but better than cold fish for sure).
I took one that I was expecting to be a starfish given her complete indifference in the bar. Just had to have her though, amazing body. Negotiating price complete waste of time, I had probably revealed my hand anyway, so overpaid (about price you mention above). Amazingly, top performance in the bedroom. In the bar she was plain annoying pushing for drinks, so was expecting her to rush things along. But took her time, not once did she urge me to hurry up, was great. So great in fact, even tipped her on top. Here's the thing, that was a once off tip, next time I took her, no tip, she was less than impressed. Needless to say knowing you're overpaying and still getting a sour face is a bit rough. At least she admitted she was already getting close to double what most girls typically get, troi oi!
I went to Bin Bin recently (down from Tom and Jerry right?) , I don't get why this bar gets high ratings though. Maybe six girls, no stunners like in the good number bars (I think it was 91 that had a heap of girls) , seemed friendly enough though. Did I go there at a bad time perhaps? Walked into Tom and Jerry, place smelt horrible, poor selection, I hate to walk in and walk straight out again, but made an exception. Next door to Tom and Jerry, I forget the name of the bar but 220k for one beer and one lady drink. Don't even know if the ladies go, ok selection I guess. At least lady didn't rush the drinks, in fact even at 120k for her drink, probably cheaper than the other bars, as she hadn't finished in the time it took to drink a beer. That's unheard of at the other bars, unless you're looking to down your beer in record time.
[quote]Ben NE is best bet though, open, good # of girls, some lookers, enough to make the price a good deal.[/quote]This place is amazing for the price. Cheapest BBBJ I've seen anywhere, yet the girls present well, it's clean, and they're quite attractive. Many cuties. Most importantly though, service is unreal, unrushed, not pushy, all smiles. I was expecting them to try to get you out the door asap, but not the case. It's tragic to see girls in the HBT bars getting (expecting) minimum 100k tips for stuff all, versus what these girls provide for around same price. Drizlet you mentioned 200k at Ben Ne, is that what you normally tip to the girl? I know desk fee is 120k, so some will be saying 120k tip and stick to it. And I would if I was given average service (they did bare minimum to get by, as happens in many places) , but as the service has always been outstanding I give 200k. Hope I'm not stuffing up the market too much, shame can't get a proper massage there as well.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1182503]"This street"? Maybe you didn't notice that you didn't include the name of the street. Lucky for you I have ESP and therefore know you're trying to find Dinh Cong Trang street. (either that or I clicked the link to the post you quoted, which had the street name in its title. Titles don't become part of the quoted post.) That Icarus guy misspelled the name of the street, missed the final G on the last part.
Anyway, go to this website.
[url]http://www.diadiem.com/[/url]
And put in the correct name and you'll find it, still in District 1 up off Hai Ba Trung, a very narrow side street (alley really) running parallel to Vo Thi Sau, between that street and Tan Dinh market.[/QUOTE]I've been trying to find this place, went down the street twice but couldn't find any hot toc's or karaoke. Are you sure it's still open? Does it have a prominent hot toc sign?
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1183232]I think you quoting his entire post was abusive.[/QUOTE]
If you thought so then my point in doing so was well taken. It was [b]his[/b] entire (and long) post!
[QUOTE=Fordmustang; 1166734]Hello, there Expatriot,
Is it Ba Vi Street by Thang Long Street near The Air Force Museum? Are those Korean Barber Shops serviced w / Korean or Viet girls? I will be in HCMC in a couple days.[/QUOTE]Thanks to the forum I have been to many HJBJ barber shops in Tan Binh, Binh Thanh, DBP, DBL v. V.
My friend took me to one of those shops once. Amazing experience for me with more than 20 girls to choose from. A 20 min body massage followed by a mind-blowing FS! I did my girl who was prolly around 19 like crazy for the whole 30 mins. However, I am a bit shy and afraid of going there by myself.
I want to find a companion to go with me to experience it again. BTW, I live with my relatives in Tan Binh and can give you a ride if you are in Tan Binh. Last week I went there, the price was 600 vnd 30usd for the room and the girl. Anyone with more experience with those places please help me with your tips.
Thank you very much.
I will check this post regularly.
[QUOTE=Ishtar123; 1183235]You must be right ravenboy. You are a senior member and your wisdom is as such also. I read all 54 pages of the thread before I made my first post. (something you guys repeatedly ask people to do when they ask stupid questions) I didn't think my 9 paragraphs (although I didn't count them before I posted and I only separated them as paragraphs to make reading easier, rather than a long continuous post) compared to the almost 2 pages of fighting that are in this thread somewhere back in the middle.
As opposed to the fighting, my post was on topic and didn't violate any rules of the forum to my knowledge. It was also not a duplicate post / idea of a historical post.
In a perfect world, it would be nice if people respected one another. If you wished to opine on the subject matter, then your welcome to give your opinion. If you didn't think it was something that needed your input, then you should have let it go, rather than insulting me.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's rave[b]r[/b]boy, not ravenboy. 'Senior member' on this board doesn't mean sh*t, after you make a certain number of posts, you automatically become 'Senior member'. That is to say, you could make 100 nonsensical posts and still become one.
Well now in the name of respecting one another in this perfect cyber world ;), I'll give my opinion on the topic that you enquire:
I love DATY. There's nothing like the taste, smell and look of a freshly showered pussy, or a just awoken pussy in the morning that you f*cked the night before.
That being said, whether I DATY on an SP or not depends on a variety of different factors, tangible and intangible, such as where and how I met said SP, time of day, how I'm feeling at that moment, how she's making me feel at that moment, where the encounter is taking place, level of curiousity, my perception of her reaction to it, what kind of foreplay has been performed, etc. etc, all culminating in a spur of the moment decision to DATY or not.
If yes, then by now my head would be somewhere close to hitting that sweet spot, at which point I carry out a quick 3-senses test:
1. Visual Test - if it's got more undergrowth and moss than a Borneo rainforest - abort!
2. Odour Test - if it looks good but smells like fish - abort!
3. Taste Test - if it looks good and smells good but it tastes like fish - abort!
Needless to say, failure in any of the above tests leads to immediate mission abort.
That's all. Happy muff diving!
[QUOTE=Mcpaul; 1183599]As I usually bike door-to-door I am not sure how many street offers I miss, but last night I was randomly without wheels and walking around the Ton That Thiep area. Predictably I was solicited with xe om offers aplenty, but quickly followed by "boom boom / beautiful lady" whispers. I am in this area alot and this was new to me. It was late and I was hungry so I waved off the touts and grabbed a table at the all night Chinese diner off Pasteur around the corner from No. 5 bar.
Next door was the Ho Hotel in question, where, during my snack, I watched some dudes roll in quickly and conspicuously followed by taxis and xe oms filled with scantily clad tarts. My beer goggles were on, and I sadly watched a few of the "hotties" go as quickly as they arrived.
Always one to dispel the proverb "Curiosity Killed the Cat", I paid my bill and wandered over to the. .
The irony is on me though, as I usually mock my friends who overpay for drunken bad sex late at night. There are so many better options!
Lesson learned. Steer clear![/QUOTE]1) Never pay beforehand.
2) Try to stay away from obviously trafficked, pimped, unwilling sex slaves who were probably kidnapped, sold by an Aunt or taken by the Mafia to pay off a relative's (gambling) debt.
JD
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1183880]If you thought so then my point in doing so was well taken. It was [b]his[/b] entire (and long) post![/QUOTE]Raverboy,
I think Drizlet's post is kinda long, and it's posted twice! Why don't you complain about that one? Whatever!
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1183900]Actually it's rave[b]are[/b]boy, not ravenboy. 'Senior member' on this board doesn't mean sh*t, after you make a certain number of posts, you automatically become 'Senior member'. That is to say, you could make 100 nonsensical posts and still become one.
Well now in the name of respecting one another in this perfect cyber world, I'll give my opinion on the topic that you enquire:
I love DATY. There's nothing like the taste, smell and look of a freshly showered pussy, or a just awoken pussy in the morning that you f*cked the night before.
That being said, whether I DATY on an SP or not depends on a variety of different factors, tangible and intangible, such as where and how I met said SP, time of day, how I'm feeling at that moment, how she's making me feel at that moment, where the encounter is taking place, level of curiousity, my perception of her reaction to it, what kind of foreplay has been performed, etc. Etc, all culminating in a spur of the moment decision to DATY or not.
If yes, then by now my head would be somewhere close to hitting that sweet spot, at which point I carry out a quick 3-senses test:
1. Visual Test. If it's got more undergrowth and moss than a Borneo rainforest. Abort!
2. Odour Test. If it looks good but smells like fish. Abort!
3. Taste Test. If it looks good and smells good but it tastes like fish. Abort!
Needless to say, failure in any of the above tests leads to immediate mission abort.
That's all. Happy muff diving![/QUOTE]Hey Raverboy!
That's more like it! Thanks! Happy MD to you too!
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1183880]If you thought so then my point in doing so was well taken. It was [b]his[/b] entire (and long) post![/QUOTE]You seem to misunderstand. I was referring to you Raverboy for quoting Ishtar's entire post when a few words would suffice.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1184158]You seem to misunderstand. I was referring to you Raverboy for quoting Ishtar's entire post when a few words would suffice.[/QUOTE]No. You misunderstand me.
I quoted the whole post for illustrative purposes, that it was overkill to make such a long post on eating SP pussy. If you found that (quoting the whole post) to be abusive, then such a long post on eating SP pussy, by extrapolation, is also abusive.
[QUOTE=Ishtar123; 1184059]Raverboy,
I think Drizlet's post is kinda long, and it's posted twice! Why don't you complain about that one? Whatever![/QUOTE]Uhmm. Because he was actually reporting on various bars, B&Gs and massage salons?
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1184193]No. You misunderstand me.
I quoted the whole post for illustrative purposes, that it was overkill to make such a long post on eating SP pussy. If you found that (quoting the whole post) to be abusive, then such a long post on eating SP pussy, by extrapolation, is also abusive. [/QUOTE].
You said it. Great logic there raverboy.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1182503]Lucky for you I have ESP and therefore know you're trying to find Dinh Cong Trang street. (either that or I clicked the link to the post you quoted, . .[/QUOTE]This is hilarious!
[QUOTE=Sabato;1183804]I went to Bin Bin recently (down from Tom and Jerry right?) , I don't get why this bar gets high ratings though. Maybe six girls, no stunners like in the good number bars (I think it was 91 that had a heap of girls) , seemed friendly enough though. Did I go there at a bad time perhaps? Walked into Tom and Jerry, place smelt horrible, poor selection, I hate to walk in and walk straight out again, but made an exception.[/QUOTE]Sorry what's "Tom & Jerry"? I don't know that place. I haven't' been in the LTT area in awhile, so maybe it's new. Regarding Bin Bin, it sounds like you hit it at the wrong time. Early in the evening (8-pm or so) they sometimes are crowded with girls. Go later and numbers can be reduced. And numbers fluctuate there. Last time I went, it was 8pm and they only had about 10 girls available. Possible some were stil upstairs making themselves up. But on a good night they can have 20 or more available there. And there's usually at least some very cute ones, and often cute very new ones.
[QUOTE=Sabato;1183804]I've been trying to find this place, went down the street twice but couldn't find any hot toc's or karaoke. Are you sure it's still open? Does it have a prominent hot toc sign?[/QUOTE]No idea sorry. My only contribution is that I recognized the street name. It was some other poster who found some spots to visit there. It's an alley really. I have no idea what's in there other than some good places to eat.
Hey it would be great if we had a weeks-long discussion about a single post and slam-reply.
The post was too long? What, you want [b][i]less[/b][/i] Info on the forum? Long posts are fine. Would you prefer a whole bunch of short ones with no useful content? Oh that's mainly what we have here the last 3 weeks, so it looks like your wish has been granted.
I think the double posts might have something to do with the new forum software sometimes not quickly giving a "your message has been posted" message, leading the person posting to wrongly think his message didn't go on the forum. That's usually the reason for double posts. Nobody wants to deliberately put up the same message twice.
[QUOTE=Muse Fan;1181719]Now. Here is the cool part. When I paid downstairs at the desk, I paid 620, 000 which was what I thought I saw quoted by expat. I heard of maybe 600, 000 from someone else, but wasn't sure which to pay since it was my first time.[/QUOTE]Took a couple of friends there today and I noticed something new. They've changed the house fee to 150, 000 dong instead of 100, 000. They have a notice on the desk, but they don't point it out when you walk in or anything. So now it's a total of 650, 000 at this specific address.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar;1183884]BTW, I live with my relatives in Tan Binh and can give you a ride if you are in Tan Binh.[/QUOTE]Mate do what it takes to get your PM working then shoot me a PM.
I live in TB near the superbowl. I go past these places everytime I go to and from Maximark.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1183884]However, I am a bit shy and afraid of going there by myself.
I want to find a companion to go with me to experience it again. BTW, I live with my relatives in Tan Binh and can give you a ride if you are in Tan Binh.
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1193417]Mate do what it takes to get your PM working then shoot me a PM.
I live in TB near the superbowl. I go past these places everytime I go to and from Maximark.[/QUOTE]I've been wanting to try one of those places out too. I'm not too far from the area but feel discouraged to go in by myself.
I need to figure out this PM too so we can set something up.
Hey chief, sent you a email from my yahoo.
Hey Mik, replied to your email with love.
I just had a 9/10 new comer@Rainbow yesterday. Tall, firm breast with incredible attitude. I banged her for 30 mins, no complain, no haggle for more $.
Be sure to check her out, ask for newcomers and you won't be confused with 8-10 girls to choose from.
Someone asked me about D7. From what I heard they do have the same services there massage BJCIMF. However, the price is much higher, last time I went ticket was 200 and the girl kept asking me 2 mil for F. The lowest she went was 1 mil so I decided to tip her 200 for regular massage then left. Maybe I was alone and they knew I was a newb there. Anyone know better please let me know. I don't remember the names but there were 2 babershops with Vietnamese, Korean languages next to each other with blurry mirror doors.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1197893]I just had a 9/10 new [email]comer@Rainbow[/email] Yesterday. Tall, firm breast with incredible attitude. I banged her for 30 mins, no complain, no haggle for more $.
Be sure to check her out, ask for newcomers and you won't be confused with 8-10 girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]I wanted to ask where specifically is this place? Do you have a specific address? I've only been out to this area a few times but I haven't seen this one. Perhaps I'm not looking around enough.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar;1197893]Someone asked me about D7.[/QUOTE]I see you don't have Private Message. Too bad.
On which street are these places in D7 that you mention?
Since you're pretty active on a topic that actually is best discussed off the forum, it'd be great if you could get a full account so you have private messaging.
A senior member told me to not give out so much specific info since police do visit the forum. I do understand that we must be cautious and share info to only trusted people. However, I think we don't needto worry because people in charge are bribed already.
There was 1 time a mamasan told me I must be quick because police will check the shop soon. I was worried so I want to leave. She said that the police chief was the one told her on the phone before hand. I noticed at that time, the girl brought up with her a wireless bell to be alarmed. Everything went fine and that was the only time they told me about police.
I also learnt that those places have been open for over 10 years without any raid.
So, sorry guys I can't post the direct addresses. Pm me I will share what I know.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1198676]A senior member told me to not give out so much specific info since police do visit the forum =. =. I do understand that we must be cautious and share info to only trusted people. HOwever, I think we don't needto worry because people in charge are bribed already.
There was 1 time a mamasan told me I must be quick because police will check the shop soon. I was worried so I want to leave. She said that the police chief was the one told her on the phone before hand. I noticed at that time, the girl brought up with her a wireless bell to be alarmed =). Everything went fine and that was the only time they told me about police.
I also learnt that those places have been open for over10 years without any raid.
So, sorry guys I can't post the direct addresses. Pm me I will share what I know.[/QUOTE]Hi mate.
I have just sent you an email.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Manuhcmc; 1198846]Hi mate.
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Hi guys,
Been in vietnam now for over 2months finally got to try out ben's on dbp. Overall it was great and straight to the point. A bit of a facial rub and rubbing of your guy. Then straight into a small room and it begins. The girls there on that night around 7pm were all about 5-6 and one that was a 7 but some old guy had her. Ticket for me that night was 120k and tipped 100k. It was the best BBBJCIM I had in vietnam so far.
Been all over vietnam I'll post some reviews and locations for nha trang, phu quoc, sapa, hanoi, can tho and other locations in the other topic.
Sapa so far was the only FS place that I found. Hoping to find one in saigon soon. There is also a small street (semi alley) parallel with ly van sy around the 250 number that is filled with SW. Haven't been brave enough to try yet tho.
[quote=peeka;1201360].sapa so far was the only fs place that i found. hoping to find one in saigon soon. there is also a small street (semi alley) parallel with ly van sy around the 250 number that is filled with sw. haven't been brave enough to try yet tho.[/quote]would that be 250 le van sy in district 3 or phu nhuan district?
I've been looking at all the post for many weeks now, some very confusing as into area and locations, from what I have noted are some good maps and p, osts I've been to HCMC before and know a few local girls and a few of the bar girls, but I'm looking for a good massage with happy ending, from the Information you guys have given me I will be on the Hunts as from Wednesday as I fly out of melbourne Tuesday, anyone like to PM me for some good tips. I'd Be happy to have a Saigon red or 2 with any of the Expats, I will be staying just off Pham Ngu lao st D1, and stay tuned I will post my findings. Vietnbam here I come.
I'm heading to HCM next week, was there about 2 months ago. Last time I went to a hot toc on nguyen phi khan. I was surprised when the girl started rimming me and quite enjoyed it.
Can anyone recommend me a hot toc where it's common for the girls to rim?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1209338]I'm heading to HCM next week, was there about 2 months ago. Last time I went to a hot toc on nguyen phi khan. I was surprised when the girl started rimming me and quite enjoyed it.
Can anyone recommend me a hot toc where it's common for the girls to rim?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,
You can go on the street you have noticed, at number 84. Not all girls will accept rimming, but they usually do it if you ask for.
This is one of my favorite address, as some of them also accept to be ass-fingered.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Muse Fan;1193400]Took a couple of friends there today and I noticed something new. They've changed the house fee to 150, 000 dong instead of 100, 000. They have a notice on the desk, but they don't point it out when you walk in or anything. So now it's a total of 650, 000 at this specific address.[/QUOTE]Confirmed this, but there are shops that charged 200K entrance fee, and tips remain the same.
All of the barber shop in this area (Thang Long, Ba Vi, Giai Phong st) offer the same services. They refuse entry for any Vietnamese, so it would pretty safe. However, if a Vietnamese look like a Korean, Taiwan or Chinese and enter without saying a word, the don't notice that and the deed are done.
Happy mongering!
So now I have ten days in December:
Cambodia PP (which I know) or HCMC, which I have never been to?
Your advise, especialy of mongers who know both first hand is much appreciated.
I'm in HCMC right now and I've been to PP.
It boils down to this for me.
HCMC is a more modern and fast paced city, and I find the women here a lot more attractive.
PP is slower paced. However, the "scene" is much more friendly. Hotels are more girl friendly, and not everyone's trying to scam you like HCMC.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar;1198676]So, sorry guys I can't post the direct addresses. Pm me I will share what I know.[/QUOTE]XuperXtar, can you also send me a private message with details and addresses for the FS MP places? Your PM is disable, so I cannot message you directly.
For you and others. I'm especially looking for a place where I can meet a cute and nice girl with big boobs, and also get her phone number so I can meet her later. Any tips on where and how? Outside of the bar girls, that is. After RTFF I see that I don't want to get into that overpriced scene.
BTW, I'm a decent looking guy and people generally assess me to be 30-35. So maybe even some girls would be interested for real, not just for work.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1212258]I'm in HCMC right now and I've been to PP.
It boils down to this for me.
HCMC is a more modern and fast paced city, and I find the women here a lot more attractive.
PP is slower paced. However, the "scene" is much more friendly. Hotels are more girl friendly, and not everyone's trying to scam you like HCMC.[/QUOTE]To Lylaster,
I wouldn. T say HCMC is a modern city they don't even have a shopping mall or a good transportion system, maybe is better than Cambodia or Laos and that about it.
Fast Eddie 48
On the road to damsen, up from cafe 09 is a massage binh dan, named le gia. The ticket is 70k for 90mins in the day time and 70k for 60mins at night. I saw a few cute syt but they had already been booked.
I got allocated a MILF with see cups, the massage was strong as she was 50kg and tallish. She was also eager to give me balls massage so I knew a HJ was on the menu. The HJ was ok, she let me touch breasts and labia but even tho she was wet when I put finger inside she said it hurt. This made it hard to release, so it was a pleasant surpise when she voluntarily started licking my penis, all without me saying anything. I liked having my balls sucked so I asked her to do that as well. When I released she cleaned me up continued with the massage after she go washed her hands. I'm not handsome, studly, or a sweet talker, so I tipped 150k at which she thanked me and happily told me to go look for her again.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1215741]To Lylaster,
I wouldn. T say HCMC is a modern city they don't even have a shopping mall or a good transportion system, maybe is better than Cambodia or Laos and that about it.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I never said HCMC is a modern city, I said it's "more" modern than Cambodia which is the context of what he was asking.
Firstly, I want to thank for all the informative posts here. They helped a lot for somebody who moved new to the country. I have been for 4 weeks in Hanoi and now since 3 weeks in HCMC. I visited a couple of MP in HN and some MP, Hot Toc, FS Places in HCMC. Here are my experiences for HCMC:
1) BnG Places.
How it works: Go inside! Choose a girl! She brings you upstairs or in a private room in the back. In 'Benny' and 'My Thien', you have 45minutes with the girl. You can talk, hug, touch her, do the business whenever you want.
A) HT on 84 NPK:. The girl was about a 6, but nice boobs (be-cup and very soft).100k for the room and tip was another 100k. She took her shirt off and I could touch her WHEREVER I wanted. The BJ was good, no hurry, good technique and ended with a CIM. NKP is really easy to find, the HTs all have visible signs. 84 NPK had about 7-8 to choose from. They range from 4-7. Good service for good money. I will definitely go again!
Be) Benny on 110 DBP: The girl was cute, around 6, small boobs, not very conversational at the beginning, but turn out to be very open minded after the business was done, when I sat with her there for another 20 minutes to chat. The BJ was averaged, less mouth, much HJ. She didn't take her shirt off, against the rule, she said. I could touch her under the clothes but not her pussy, she said she had her period. After a CIM, the chat and then the payment. 120k for the room. 100k for the girl. I would go again but then choose another girl. I saw some girls between 5-7 and one girl was 8. Hopefully, I meet her next time.
See) My Thien on 90 DBP: It was late, around 11:30. They were about to close but still service me. I had a girl between 4-5, since the other girls were all about to leave. Nevertheless, she turned out to very special and experienced. She talked very much and was very confident. Had some sweet tattoos on the back and on her ass. Body and boobs were averaged (A-cup). She had the best tongue I have ever met in Vietnam. Just ask for it and she licks EVERYWHERE you want (Honestly). The BJ was good, ended with a CIM. I paid 150k for the BJ and 100k for the room. I would go again but at another time, since some of the girls left when I came, and the girls I have seen were averaged.
2) FS Places.
How it works: If you enter the Billiard Places, a lot of girls are waiting for you at the door. Pick one and sit with her, chat with her, buy drinks, pay the bar fine\drinks, go to a hotel, pay her after service. If you enter a HT, go upstairs, take a shower and pay her after the service.
A) Bin Bin on 13 LTT: This place was my biggest disappointment. One girl talk to me and ask me to buy her a drink. I said, I want to see your friends first (the other girls). She was pissed off and left. The other girls came down, nobody spoke to me again. I ask the mamasan if other girls are coming down, he just said: 'No, they are all busy! ' The real story is: They were sitting just next to me but none of them made a move to ask me if I want service. I paid my beer (30k) and left. The girls I have seen were about 5-8, one girl was 9 but she was very arrogant (ice cold). None of the girls had big boobs.
Be) After Bin Bin, I went to 91 HBT: This place has a lot of stunning girls. They all range from 6-9. Some of them were cold but not as cold as Bin Bin. I talk and had some drinks with a very 24 year old girl (about an 8) with big fake boobs (D-Cup). She was small but very very cute. Her English was ok. She could say all the numbers you need to know. After a couple of drinks, the mamasan asked for $30 for the drinks (I assume, including bar fine). We went to a mini hotel with the taxi. $20 for the room. The FS was great. A lot of GFE (we kissed a lot). She massaged me before we went to business. Her faked boobs were great and her pussy was tight. After finishing, we watched soccer for another 20 minutes before we headed back to her working place. I paid her $50. Total damage was $100! I would go again, but next time I will try to bargain more than the first time and try another girl since there were a bunch of very hot girls.
See) HT (Korean Quarter) : The first place I visited was on TL street. The girl was cute, about a 6, very nice but bad English. She massaged me before she started to go lower and gave me a BJ. The BJ was ok. Her pussy was tight but a little bit dry. Her boobs, about A-Cup. Not much GFE, she didn't kiss you back. The FS was ok. Total damage was 100k for the room. 500k for the girl. I would go again, but take another girl. There were only 3-4 girls available 5-7, but one MILF was 7. I will probably take her next time.
The) HT (Korean Quarter) : The second HT was on a street, parallel to Ba Vi. The BEST experienced I ever had till now in HCMC. A couple of hot girls to choose from, around 6-9, really comparable with 91 HBT. I had an half Vietnamese and half Chinese girl. 23 years old, about 8-9. GREAT Boobs, at least C-Cup and REAL. Hot body. The BJ was averaged but she was pretty wet and experienced on moving her ass. Not much GFE but the service was good. 150k for the room (the price was raised since September, which you could read on every wall of a room). I gave her 600k. Would I go again? DEFINETELY!
I will stay here for a couple of months and have some objectives:
- Try the other places mentioned in the forum.
- Find some new places and share them with the forum.
- Try some café om and bia om places.
- Try some Billiard and Karaoke Places
- Try some BK and FL.
If anybody needs a company to have some fun, just write me a PM. I speak fluently English, another European language fluently and intermediate Vietnamese.
Please help me with the following Questions:
Does anybody know if the Korean HTs offer LT FS?
Can I take the girls from for instance 91 HBT to a hotel that I choose or do I have to go with them to their predetermined mini hotels?
Are there any café om or bia om places with FS?
I hope you enjoyd my report! Feedbacks are always welcome!
Hi Guys, I was referrred to this place a couple of years ago by someone on this board and have been going there ever since. My favorite girl, Tan, big boobs for a Vietnamese, is no longer there but there is a really nice spinner with good B cups, name is Ly, who gives some of the best BBBJCIM I have ever had. Seen her 3 X now. 120K for the service and 200K for the tip. Best BJ money can buy. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1219256]If anybody needs a company to have some fun, just write me a PM. I speak fluently English, another European language fluently and intermediate Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Tried pming you. The option didn't come up. Have you paid for the membership? It's the only way I know of to pm you on this site.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1219256]A) HT on 84 NPK:. The girl was about a 6, but nice boobs (be-cup and very soft).100k for the room and tip was another 100k. She took her shirt off and I could touch her WHEREVER I wanted. The BJ was good, no hurry, good technique and ended with a CIM. NKP is really easy to find, the HTs all have visible signs. 84 NPK had about 7-8 to choose from. They range from 4-7. Good service for good money. I will definitely go again![/QUOTE]Bro, would like to know if a non Vietnamese speaker will be able to have a good time there, or the chances of getting ripped off is high? Or really just a pay and go place?
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1198676].
So, sorry guys I can't post the direct addresses. Pm me I will share what I know.[/QUOTE]Bro,
Cannot pm you, for whatever reason. Could you please pm me the locations that you know?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1219256].
How it works: If you enter the Billiard Places, . : Where are these places?
A) Bin Bin on 13 LTT: What does LTT stand for?
Be) After Bin Bin, I went to 91 HBT: I am supposing this is Hai Ba Trung?
See) HT (Korean Quarter) : The first place I visited was on TL street; is it possible to have the full name of the street? Where is this Korean quarter actually?
The) HT (Korean Quarter) : The second HT was on a street, parallel to Ba Vi. : Would be interesting to knowwhere is this place.
Can I take the girls from for instance 91 HBT to a hotel that I choose or do I have to go with them to their predetermined mini hotels? : as far as I know, the bars have agreements with those hotels and hence the girls refuse to go to another hotel. At least that was the case few years back when I last did it.
Are there any café om or bia om places with FS?
Answer: I was discussing this with a vietnamese friend of mine last night and he said that it did not exist in Ho Chi Minh. However, it seem s that in Vung Tau there are more places that actually allow FS on the premises, including massage parlors. And I can confirm that because I had FS on several occasions there, again, few years back, and boy. Those girls were damn hot.[/QUOTE]Bro,
Would appreciate some answers and directions. I cannot pm you either. If you can pm me then please do so with your contact and we would share a beer and info live hehehe.
Oh, and by the way, you can rest assured, the authorities are fully aware of what is going on and where, and who is doing what, including all of us, to the minutest detail. I am quite sure that there is nothing in this forum, or elsewhere, that they are not aware of. If its happening, its because they let it happen in fact. Never forget how smart the Vietnamese people can be.
Knight
[QUOTE=Knight 1001; 1219494]Bro,
Would appreciate some answers and directions. I cannot pm you either. If you can pm me then please do so with your contact and we would share a beer and info live hehehe.
Oh, and by the way, you can rest assured, the authorities are fully aware of what is going on and where, and who is doing what, including all of us, to the minutest detail. I am quite sure that there is nothing in this forum, or elsewhere, that they are not aware of. If its happening, its because they let it happen in fact. Never forget how smart the Vietnamese people can be.
Knight[/QUOTE]Yes the authorities do know about it but since it isn't plastered all over the internet they can pretend they don't know and collect there bribes. But once its plastered all over then based on losing face they will be forced to act. There have been NUMEROUS cases where shops have been raided. Then once they on the radar it reverts to being clean. Then they lose customers and eventually close down. Yes they will open again somewhere else. But then we locals will have to find then again only to have tourist wreak the equilibrium. Bottom line you don't know how to use your brain to find it then too bad. True story I helped out a fellow ozzie. Wasted my time taking him there told him to not pay over 600k, he ignored me and overpaid wreaked the pricing structure then had the gall to tell me I didn't tell him how good it was going to be thats why he had to tip extra. Its had been 600k at least last 5 years but oncce tourist start going its now 650 and its going to go up again once its becomes common knowledge. I know at least 20 such places but my lips are sealed. Go to Thailand you guys
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1219256]Firstly, I want to thank for all the informative posts here. They helped a lot for somebody who moved new to the country. I have been for 4 weeks in Hanoi and now since 3 weeks in HCMC. I visited a couple of MP in HN and some MP, Hot Toc, FS Places in HCMC. Here are my experiences for HCMC:
Jean Rem,
Great concise report. Thanks! I am here in HMC, so I will use the information.
Digits
I have now been in HMC for three days now and have some observations to share:
Airport: I was pleasantly surprised by how relatively modern the airport was. I had read here that the prepaid taxi stand was now closed, so I just headed to the only ATM machine in the arrival area to get some VNDs, and someone at one of the kiosks (I believe the only one open at that time which was around 12:30 am) asked whether I needed a taxi. On the way back from getting cash, I asked him how much to D1, and he said $9. So I paid him and he gave me a ticket, which I handed to the handler outside, and he walked me to the mini minivan. I believe it was 'Saigon Taxi' or something like that. So that worked well. Otherwise I have only been taking the Vinasun (mainly) and Mailinh (occasionally) taxis and they are, as it has been reported here, very legit and have consistently used the meter.
Hotel: At the hotel they asked to keep my passport which I refused. I offered for them to keep a photocopy. They needed a deposit instead of the actual passport, which I obliged by giving them $50. I would have probably been able to do $20 or maybe used my credit card as deposit as well.
I tried one of the places in the Korean neighborhood, and everything was consistent with what has been mentioned here. The price however was 650, 000 and based on previous posts, I was expecting 600, 000. I checked a couple of other places in the area, and was quoted 650, 000 as well, so maybe inflation has kicked in.
Stopped by 84 NPK, and once upstairs, I asked for the price and was quoted 500k. I told them my 'friend' pays 200k and they pretended not to know what I was talking about. I left. Maybe I had mixed up the location / price matrix. Oh well.
267 Thi Tap has by far been the best value for the money. The place is very clean. Private areas (as private as you would expect) , and great service. Four girls on the couches when I got in, all 7s and 8s. The price was $200k. No tipping is required, or maybe even expected. I will be back!
Real cheap and good massage around the corner at one of the places on the main street. Something like 60, 000 for one hour. But the girl will ask 500k for hand finish. Somewhat high pressure which I did not like.
That's all for now.
Digits
[QUOTE=Digits; 1219629]I have now been in HMC for three days now and have some observations to share:
Airport: I was pleasantly surprised by how relatively modern the airport was. I had read here that the prepaid taxi stand was now closed, so I just headed to the only ATM machine in the arrival area to get some VNDs, and someone at one of the kiosks (I believe the only one open at that time which was around 12:30 am) asked whether I needed a taxi. On the way back from getting cash, I asked him how much to D1, and he said $9. So I paid him and he gave me a ticket, which I handed to the handler outside, and he walked me to the mini minivan. I believe it was 'Saigon Taxi' or something like that. So that worked well. Otherwise I have only been taking the Vinasun (mainly) and Mailinh (occasionally) taxis and they are, as it has been reported here, very legit and have consistently used the meter.
Hotel: At the hotel they asked to keep my passport which I refused. I offered for them to keep a photocopy. They needed a deposit instead of the actual passport, which I obliged by giving them $50. I would have probably been able to do $20 or maybe used my credit card as deposit as well.
I tried one of the places in the Korean neighborhood, and everything was consistent with what has been mentioned here. The price however was 650, 000 and based on previous posts, I was expecting 600, 000. I checked a couple of other places in the area, and was quoted 650, 000 as well, so maybe inflation has kicked in.
Stopped by 84 NPK, and once upstairs, I asked for the price and was quoted 500k. I told them my 'friend' pays 200k and they pretended not to know what I was talking about. I left. Maybe I had mixed up the location / price matrix. Oh well.
267 Thi Tap has by far been the best value for the money. The place is very clean. Private areas (as private as you would expect) , and great service. Four girls on the couches when I got in, all 7s and 8s. The price was $200k. No tipping is required, or maybe even expected. I will be back!
Real cheap and good massage around the corner at one of the places on the main street. Something like 60, 000 for one hour. But the girl will ask 500k for hand finish. Somewhat high pressure which I did not like.
That's all for now.
Digits[/QUOTE]Digits. Vn is a place where its pretty erratic and unpredictible in many thing. The prices you were expecting is current. But for whatever reason age, appeareance etc they thought you would be a sucker and pay extra. The best option is to walk if you don't want to be the fool. Part of the reason is that you asked the price first meaning you haven't been there. Even tho you know the price. They are factoring you won't walk as 10-25 difference won't mean much to a tourist. Do us a favour and just go go to another place near by. Or if you can don't ask price and afterwards just give 100 to the girl and 100 to shop like you know what it should be
[QUOTE=Erotica;1219470]Bro, would like to know if a non Vietnamese speaker will be able to have a good time there, or the chances of getting ripped off is high? Or really just a pay and go place?[/QUOTE]Just pay the price everybody pay. You do not need to ask for the price when you enter since they will assume you are new and does not know how it works. Give the girl the tip she deserves and give the mamasan the 100k. If she asks for way more then necessary, just say you know the price from friends. If she asks for a little bit more, for instance 10-20k, make sure that's the market price for everybody since inflation kicked in the last times and some of the places raised the rent.
[QUOTE=Muse Fan;1219433]Tried pming you. The option didn't come up. Have you paid for the membership? It's the only way I know of to pm you on this site.[/QUOTE]I am very new in this forum and have also not paid yet. If anybody can pm and want to arrange a meeting. Please send a "round-pm" and collect some email adresses who wants to join us. Would be great. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001; 1219494]Bro,
Would appreciate some answers and directions. I cannot pm you either. If you can pm me then please do so with your contact and we would share a beer and info live hehehe.
Oh, and by the way, you can rest assured, the authorities are fully aware of what is going on and where, and who is doing what, including all of us, to the minutest detail. I am quite sure that there is nothing in this forum, or elsewhere, that they are not aware of. If its happening, its because they let it happen in fact. Never forget how smart the Vietnamese people can be.
Knight[/QUOTE]I can tell you the exact adresses during our beer. I can not pm either. If somebody can pm, collect some email adresses and we arrange a meeting.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1219881]I can tell you the exact adresses during our beer. I can not pm either. If somebody can pm, collect some email adresses and we arrange a meeting.[/QUOTE]You can't pm in or out without donating the fee to the forum.
I'll be in hcmc at Christmas time for 10 days.
December 25 to jan 4 if anyone wants to hang out. I know my way around Since I've been there so many times, however I haven't been there for 5 years, I'm sure a lot has changed.
The days when club blue was the best nightclub to be, before it burned down.
And the time when 90% of the girls at any club were working and hot!
Those were the days.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1219881]I can tell you the exact adresses during our beer. I can not pm either. If somebody can pm, collect some email adresses and we arrange a meeting.[/QUOTE]This sounds actually quite funny, if you cannot pm, and if I cannot pm you, and considering that the forum does not allow e mail addresses to be posted, I do not really see a solution. Do you? Or anyone does?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1219875]Just pay the price everybody pay. You do not need to ask for the price when you enter since they will assume you are new and does not know how it works. Give the girl the tip she deserves and give the mamasan the 100k. If she asks for way more then necessary, just say you know the price from friends. If she asks for a little bit more, for instance 10-20k, make sure that's the market price for everybody since inflation kicked in the last times and some of the places raised the rent.[/QUOTE]When I was searching internet and came across this website about VIETNAMESE HOT BABES FOR SEX & HIRE. So I went in and check. Wow indeed good nice chicks.
Check this out now :
[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url]
[QUOTE=LeeBruce888; 1220744]When I was searching internet and came across this website about VIETNAMESE HOT BABES FOR SEX & HIRE. So I went in and check. Wow indeed good nice chicks.
Check this out now :
[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url][/QUOTE]I have also heard about the escort services before I came here. The girls (exactly the pictures) are very hot. But as you can see, by reading through the forum, they are highly overprized. It's up to you bro, if you want to pay $300 for a girl, then you should go for it. In my oppinion, for that money they will treat you very well.
Second Visit:
NPK: This time I went along NPN, a guy spoke to me and offered me to come into his HT shop. He tried to sell me a BJ for 300k. I said no way, I pay less few meters ahead. After that, he agreed for 200k including tips. I agreed! Came in, took a girl about a 5, not very conversational. The BJ was below average. B-Cup boobs. The room was clean, you could decide whether you want a private or a share the rooms with other guys separated by a curtain. I took a private room, which costs additional 50k. The room was clean, you have your own privacy and relaxing music. Service was all in all ok. Would I go again? Likely not! I saw three girls between 4-5. Not worth to go.
Korean Quarter: I visited the second time the HT parallel to BV, I enjoyed so much last time. This time, my last girl was not there. It was very late. 11pm, only 3 girls to choose from. I took a cute 20 year old one around 6. She turned out to be the most unprofessional and most unfriendly girl I ever had. No massage, no effort on the BJ, no effort to make me horny. She interrupted during action once to pick up her phone. I said: What's your problem? She said nothing and pushed me to go on fucking her. She was damn dry. After finishing, I gave her 100k less than average, she complained, I replied: It's your own fault. The lesson I have learned: pick your girl wisely, if you see she is not in the mood for services or just have a bad attitude, take another one, change the girl even if you two are already in the room.
Benny on 110 DBP: Had an older girl this time about a 6. Averaged BJ but friendly. Not much conversation but no hurry in sending me home after service. I took a nap for about half an hour with her lying on the seat. She laid her head on my leg, chilled and caresses my legs. Same price like the last time. 120k for the room. 100k tip. The girl which I saw last time (about an 8) didn't work there anymore. The remaining girls were average between 4-6 and one 7. In my opinion, Benny is not worth visiting right now. I will wait till they change staff.
New experiences:
Linda's HT on Hong Ha: This place is near the airport. If you go on Truong Son, take a right at CT Plaza. After about 300m, it is on the right side. This seems to be a little more upscale place of HT. The room was very clean, nice decorated, air conditioner, private with a couch and sweets on the table for customers. About 7 nice girls to choose, around 5-7. I picked a 27 year old girl around a 7. Great body, and real C-Cup boobs. She massaged me for about 20 minutes. We talked a lot, she told me that the girls didn't get payments so they are really dependent on the tips. She assured me therefore that every girl would treat me well. Good massage, good BJ, took her shirt and underwear off to touch, she smelled great, softy skin. After finishing she cleaned herself and me. She stayed and hugged me for another 20 minutes, no hurry at all, I went on playing with her great boobs. She asked to pick another girl since I had some time left. I refused. A lot of GFE and very friendly girl. A lot of hugs and kisses around her body. 200k for the room. I gave 200k tip, she asked for 100k more, we ended up with 50k more. She was happy. If somebody looks for a lot GFE, clean and nice private room and would pay a little bit more for a BJ. I would recommend this place.
Korean Quarter: After the disappointment last time, I went to BV. There are plenty of them. I took the second one which came across my view. After entering, about 11-12 (5-8) girls standing around me, waiting me to choose. I picked a very cute girl about an 8 with big fake D-Cup boobs. She was very handsome and friendly. Joint me during shower and massage my dick. A lot of GFE and kisses. BJ was ok. 150k for the room. 600k tip. I would go again and pick the same girl.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45; 1087642]So I know there are quiet a few guys out there who live in the District 10/11 area, so hopefully this will bring some smiles to a few of you. Where 3/2 Street and Hong Bang Street meet at a large round-a-about type of intersection there is another street called Minh Phuong (see attached map). This street is littered with ca phe om's. During the day time there are only a few open (about 3 or 4 shops) but in the evening there are probably 9 or 10 shops. In terms of service and quality, each shop is different.
I went to a shop (can't remember name or number, sorry guys) close to Binh Tnoi street and had a great BBBJ, a coffee, and good conversation with a girl for about 100k total. Keep in mind this is pretty far from D1, they don't speak any English. Probably not even a little. Every girl I saw spoke not 1 word, aside from "Hello," in English. But don't be intimidated, they know why you are there.[/QUOTE]I have looked for Cafe Om places around BT area (refered to report of 'alwayshard'). I went in 4 different cafes, no services. Can anybody give me some recent exact addresses or names of the café om's? On the next day I went up and down MP about 3-5pm. Entered 2 cafes with no services. The third one I picked was pretty sure a café om. The guys behind me were hugging the girls. Only one girl joint my table, we talked a little bit, but she didn't asked me for services and left. I was pretty sure they offer services since behind the bar, I could see through a half closed curtain, that there was a bed. SO WHY IN HELL DIDN'T THEY ASKED ME FOR A BJ?
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1221441]I have looked for Cafe Om places around BT area (refered to report of 'alwayshard'). I went in 4 different cafes, no services. Can anybody give me some recent exact addresses or names of the café om's? On the next day I went up and down MP about 3-5pm. Entered 2 cafes with no services. The third one I picked was pretty sure a café om. The guys behind me were hugging the girls. Only one girl joint my table, we talked a little bit, but she didn't asked me for services and left. I was pretty sure they offer services since behind the bar, I could see through a half closed curtain, that there was a bed. SO WHY IN HELL DIDN'T THEY ASKED ME FOR A BJ?[/QUOTE]Mate vn is dynamic, those places have been shut down over 1 yr now. Shut down either due to police / vice crack down or being unprofitable. And those places have always been om / HJ places. Alwayshard might have been lucky with one gal one day. Its not a regular thing.
This place is a total ripoff, I can get hotter girls for the WHOLE day in Thailand for the same price! Even if your not Vi&7879; t Ki&7873; you like me, you can easy get a hotties for the whole day here too for the cheaper price. You just got to look a little harder.
[QUOTE=LeeBruce888; 1220744]When I was searching internet and came across this website about VIETNAMESE HOT BABES FOR SEX & HIRE. So I went in and check. Wow indeed good nice chicks.
Check this out now :
[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LeeBruce888; 1220744]When I was searching internet and came across this website about VIETNAMESE HOT BABES FOR SEX & HIRE. So I went in and check. Wow indeed good nice chicks.
Check this out now :
[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url][/QUOTE]The guy running this is a scam artist. He uses fake pics. Gets street girls inflates the prices then pimps them to unsuspecting tourist. He is a singaporean convict. On the run. Avoid at all costs
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1222179]The guy running this is a scam artist. He uses fake pics. Gets street girls inflates the prices then pimps them to unsuspecting tourist. He is a singaporean convict. On the run. Avoid at all costs[/QUOTE]MC is right, this guy I have met and a few friends of mine also knows him. He is a desperate and stupid con artist and not very successful in what he does even. Avoid anyone who advertise about Escort service in Vietnam (HCMC and Hanoi) it all points back to the same numb-skull!
Hey guys,
I live in District 4 in Saigon for almost a year now. I wonder if anyone want to meet up and share some real experiences and locations.
By the way, I am an Aussie with Vietnamese background. I speak Vietnamese very well!
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1221462]Mate vn is dynamic, those places have been shut down over 1 yr now. Shut down either due to police / vice crack down or being unprofitable. And those places have always been om / HJ places. Alwayshard might have been lucky with one gal one day. Its not a regular thing.[/QUOTE]MC you are correct about the Q. 11 cafe om's being shut down. Almost all of them were shut down in a district wide crack down from LE. However, in this area I had several girls, and locations, offer more than just HJ.
As far as the cafe om's go, there are none left in Q. 11 however, D. 8's Pham The Hien is a well-known area for cafe om's. Check near the market on PTH in D. 8. There are probably a half dozen shops. Some offer in-shop services such as HJs other places require you to take them out to a hotel. It just depends on the shop and girl. English is very limited as expected.
[QUOTE=Daouu; 1222508]Hey guys,
I live in District 4 in Saigon for almost a year now. I wonder if anyone want to meet up and share some real experiences and locations.
By the way, I am an Aussie with Vietnamese background. I speak Vietnamese very well![/QUOTE]Sure, just contact me. I am about 6 months here, living in D. 7
[QUOTE=Jean Rem]...Linda's HT on Hong Ha: This place is near the airport. If you go on Truong Son, take a right at CT Plaza. After about 300m, it is on the right side. This seems to be a little more upscale place of HT. The room was very clean, nice decorated, air conditioner, private with a couch and sweets on the table for customers. About 7 nice girls to choose, around 5-7. I picked a 27 year old girl around a 7. Great body, and real C-Cup boobs. She massaged me for about 20 minutes. We talked a lot, she told me that the girls didn't get payments so they are really dependent on the tips. She assured me therefore that every girl would treat me well. Good massage, good BJ, took her shirt and underwear off to touch, she smelled great, softy skin. After finishing she cleaned herself and me. She stayed and hugged me for another 20 minutes, no hurry at all, I went on playing with her great boobs. She asked to pick another girl since I had some time left. I refused. A lot of GFE and very friendly girl. A lot of hugs and kisses around her body. 200k for the room. I gave 200k tip, she asked for 100k more, we ended up with 50k more. She was happy. If somebody looks for a lot GFE, clean and nice private room and would pay a little bit more for a BJ. I would recommend this place...[/QUOTE]
Visited this place to check it out. Perfect example of how 'one man's meat is another man's poison'.
Got there around 4 pm on a Saturday afternoon. Only 2 girls available, both around a 5. Picked the marginally more attractive one of the 2, a mid to late 20s girl named Oanh from Tien Giang. This is the system per my experience: If you specify only massage, the girl goes up with you alone and provides a perfunctory massage and BJ. Accepted tip to the girl VND 200.000 and VND 200.000 for the room for the hour. If you go above the hour its an additional VND100.000. Place is as described by Jean Rem.
I happened to specify hairwash (goi dau). In this case, a second girl (not of your choosing and not for special services) goes up with the girl you picked. The girl you picked washes your hair and the other gives you a massage at the same time. I asked how come 2 girls perform the service here and not 1. I was told that this is to ensure that your session is completed within the hour. Complicated? IMO its just to give the other girl a chance to earn a small tip from you. After the girl finishes washing your hair, the other girl excuses herself and the girl you picked finishes the service with a BJ. Service was quite mechanical, alternating between BJ and HJ and soft complaining that I was taking too long to finish.
The girl also wouldn't stop going on about how she makes little money etc etc. I gave her VND 200.000 and to be nice, VND 50.000 for the other girl but she tried until the very last moment before I left to try and hit me up for more. At the counter I was charged as follows: VND 200.000 for the room + VND 50.000 for the hairwash + VND 20.000 for the bottled water (!) = VND 520.000 all in. For this price, one is better off going to the FS salons in the Korean Quarter nearby.
WIR: No. Typical Vietnamese wanker joint. Mechanical service with upsell pressure and price gouging. I mean 'typically Vietnamese' as having absolutely no interest in customer retention. Background: I am late 30s Asian expat in VN for nearly 4 years, rode a motorbike there and I speak adequate Vietnamese.
Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) : The same as Benny or My Tien. Some girls to choose about 12am. They open till 3am. 2 girls about 7, the rest were way below. I picked one of the 7, 21 years old, short black hair, very sweet smile. Friendly girl! BJ was ok. C-Cup boobs. 100k room. 100k tip.
Korean Quarter: I went to the same HT on Ba Vi. The second one on the right. The girls were very cute. I took an 8 with natural D-Cup boobs. The service was great! BUT THEN. They wanted to charge me 1. 2 million for the service. I said no way. I paid much less the last time. The girl asked me in the room if I know the price. MISTAKE: I said yes, I was here last week. After a long discussion, I paid 800k and left. FUCKING RIP OFF PLACE. AVOID!
XVNT: On the bridge 'Cau Thi Nghe' there are some SW standing waiting for customers. They looked all like junkies, what I saw on that days. But there are different girls every time, so maybe next time cuter girls.
PTH: There are some Cafe Oms there. I picked a cafe somewhat about 400+. They had a room behind to serve. But the girls were all too urgly, so I refused, paid my drink and left. THANKS TO ALWAYSHARD45!
Question:
A girl approached me late at 1am on XVNT, she came very close. Nobody was on the street! When I looked back, she just smile. I just couldn't realize fast enough to ask her if she is a motorbike girl. On another day, two girls on a bike just smile and made some strange sound at me. It was really crowed so I did not start a conversation. WERE THEY MOTORBIKE girls? Any tips how to approach them the next time? How are the prices?
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1223163]Visited this place to check it out. Perfect example of how 'one man's meat is another man's poison'.
WIR: No. Typical Vietnamese wanker joint. Mechanical service with upsell pressure and price gouging. I mean 'typically Vietnamese' as having absolutely no interest in customer retention. Background: I am late 30s Asian expat in VN for nearly 4 years, rode a motorbike there and I speak adequate Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Sorry Bro for the bad experience. It really depends on the girl and her mood to serve on that day. I would give you the name of the girl I had but I can't hardly remember. I also had bad exerpiences and learn from them!
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1223632]Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) : The same as Benny or My Tien. Some girls to choose about 12am. They open till 3am. 2 girls about 7, the rest were way below. I picked one of the 7, 21 years old, short black hair, very sweet smile. Friendly girl! BJ was ok. C-Cup boobs. 100k room. 100k tip.
Korean Quarter: I went to the same HT on Ba Vi. The second one on the right. The girls were very cute. I took an 8 with natural D-Cup boobs. The service was great! BUT THEN. They wanted to charge me 1. 2 million for the service. I said no way. I paid much less the last time. The girl asked me in the room if I know the price. MISTAKE: I said yes, I was here last week. After a long discussion, I paid 800k and left. FUCKING RIP OFF PLACE. AVOID!
XVNT: On the bridge 'Cau Thi Nghe' there are some SW standing waiting for customers. They looked all like junkies, what I saw on that days. But there are different girls every time, so maybe next time cuter girls.
PTH: There are some Cafe Oms there. I picked a cafe somewhat about 400+. They had a room behind to serve. But the girls were all too urgly, so I refused, paid my drink and left. THANKS TO ALWAYSHARD45!
Question:
A girl approached me late at 1am on XVNT, she came very close. Nobody was on the street! When I looked back, she just smile. I just couldn't realize fast enough to ask her if she is a motorbike girl. On another day, two girls on a bike just smile and made some strange sound at me. It was really crowed so I did not start a conversation. WERE THEY MOTORBIKE girls? Any tips how to approach them the next time? How are the prices?[/QUOTE]
Korean Quarter: ALL the salons should be: VND 500.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 or VND 120.000 or VND 150.000 to the house (varies from house to house). If I remember correctly, all but one or two places have raised their price to VND 120.000 or VND 150.000 from VND 100.000.
Yes they were motorbike girls. No need for tips on how to approach them as they, evidently, approached [b]you[/b]. The hot young ones along XVNT, just ask them outright for their asking price. Then you could try for VND 500.000 ST, VND 1M LT. Compare with: the junkies on Thi Nghe Bridge. Probably VND 200.000 to VND 300.000 for a quick roll in the hay. Never partook in either, just my opinion on what I think would be fair and from what I have heard about others' experiences.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem;1221439]Linda's HT on Hong Ha: This place is near the airport. If you go on Truong Son, take a right at CT Plaza. After about 300m, it is on the right side. This seems to be a little more upscale place of HT. The room was very clean, nice decorated, air conditioner, private with a couch and sweets on the table for customers. About 7 nice girls to choose, around 5-7. I picked a 27 year old girl around a 7. Great body, and real C-Cup boobs. She massaged me for about 20 minutes. We talked a lot, she told me that the girls didn't get payments so they are really dependent on the tips. She assured me therefore that every girl would treat me well. Good massage, good BJ, took her shirt and underwear off to touch, she smelled great, softy skin. After finishing she cleaned herself and me. She stayed and hugged me for another 20 minutes, no hurry at all, I went on playing with her great boobs. She asked to pick another girl since I had some time left. I refused. A lot of GFE and very friendly girl. A lot of hugs and kisses around her body. 200k for the room. I gave 200k tip, she asked for 100k more, we ended up with 50k more. She was happy. If somebody looks for a lot GFE, clean and nice private room and would pay a little bit more for a BJ. I would recommend this place.[/QUOTE]Jean you reported this place offers BJ and GFE. Question, does the BJ come with CIM or is it just blow all over her hand and a wet towel?
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1009855]Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say. 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.[/QUOTE]Can anyone else confirm this place is real. I've been down Dinh Cong Trang street SEVERAL times at all different times of day. There is no karaoke place on this street and only 1 HT which seems to be legit. I have only seen 1 old lady inside without big tits and a once I parked and tried to come in but she said she as closed (around 7pm). Is this it?
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1231995]Can anyone else confirm this place is real. I've been down Dinh Cong Trang street SEVERAL times at all different times of day. There is no karaoke place on this street and only 1 HT which seems to be legit. I have only seen 1 old lady inside without big tits and a once I parked and tried to come in but she said she as closed (around 7pm). Is this it?[/QUOTE]Yeah I also looked for that place 6-8mths ago. Didn't see anything resembling that
Below is a HCMC first-timers trip report – thanks to those who helped me find the way. But first a question: I see lots of bars along Bui Vien with girls dressed up and beckoning, but the forum seems to have few reports that I can recall or could find with a search, except a passing mention of Little Queenies and some sports bar (not sure which one. There's lots of them). Everyone seems to talk about HBT bars only. So what's up with Bui Vien? Are the girls generally available for take-out? If so, are the prices roughly similar to HBT?
Korean quarter: I saw several cuties there and took one upstairs. She was 23 with a real nice body, and a positive attitude, but no GFE service (no kissing, affection). Service varies from girl to girl there, I'm sure, but is this the standard? The price was 500k to the girl and 150k downstairs.
Massage in backpacker area: I noticed 6-8 shops with good-looking girls out front. I sampled two of them. At the first, I had a curtained off little cubicle and the girl suggested I take off my underwear. This was followed by a pretty good message that was also erotic. She texted into her phone and showed it to me: 'Want to massage baby? ' I suppose that was pretty ambiguous, but I had a prepared mind and nodded my head. She wanted 400k but agreed to 150k (after re-reading the forums, I now think I was under the usual fee, even though she did agree. I just figured that if a BBJCIM is 100k, then a HJ shouldn't be MORE).
My next visit, to a shop around the corner on Do Quang Dau, was much weirder. The lady who showed me to the room was clear about not taking off my underwear, which was a bad sign. But then the massage itself was pretty erotic, with lots of physical contact, including resting her pubic region against various body parts while massaging. Was it just a fortunate coincidence that the table was at exactly the right height? Then another guy come in, and another one, placed on both sides of me. WTF? There were 5-6 tables available, so why surround me? Even worse, they deliberately did not close the curtains. I thought I might be on a hidden camera show. Any hope of a HJ evaporated right there. Actually, we 3 guys were close enough that we could have given each other HJs. I'm reminded of the Justin Timberlake song, 'It's not gay when it's in a threeway. With a honey in the middle, there's some leeway. The area's gray in a one, two, threeway. ' But, no, this disturbing development deflated what had been an outstanding erection. I tipped 120k, which felt over the top given no HJ, but I did have a good time and supposedly they get nothing from the 120k paid to the house (unlike all other countries I've visited).
BnG: Did not try yet, but I might visit there over the next few days.
Summary: Some fun can be had here at reasonable prices, but I get the impression (from experience and from reading the forums) that GFE is not easy to come by in the P4P arena. I can imagine that the non-pro arena is more favorable, for residents.
Have been frequenting a legit massage on Le Anh Xuan st for years. Cheap, good massage and nothing overtly sexual. Ever. This past visit I went in my usual once aday and low and behold on 2 occasions the girls direct me to the 3rd floor. Very quiet, very private with very private rooms. Right off the bat I know something is amiss as the girl doesn't begin the massage the usual way with me on my back and her holding my hand and massaging my arm. She jumps on the table and straddles me and starts seductivly massaging my pelvis. All the while staring directly at me and then the johnson, me then the johnson. Very quickly the boy jumps to attention and she starts smiling. Slowly her hands creep under my shorts and oh so close to the jewels, teasing me to full erection. Now I'm crazy and I just reach down and pull it out. She glances towards the door and with no reservation starts jerking me to heaven. No talk of money or anything. Next time same same. Up we go to the 3rd floor and I'm watching her gorgeous ass climb the stairs. This one allows me to explore her tits and her pussy through her pants. Then the HJ. I give her the usual tip 100k plus and we're both smiling. It was the only 2 times I have been given this treatment and hope it's not the last.
Hello All,
First of all, thanks to all of you. I had some good time after reading your contributions. I'd like to share what little additional info I found.
I like walking around in the city, so I discovered Nguyen Thuong Hien street with lots of food stalls. When going north from Nguyen Dinh Chieu street, there are a few hot toc, in the northern part of this section, there is one on the left where the girls are in red, and further north, on the right, another place where the girls are dressed in blue. In both places, I was offered HJ, but no BJ or more.
First time, I declined, as I was looking for something more, then I figured that I should have asked for the girl's number, as she had a nice smile and was flirtatious with me. Then in the second hot toc, after washing my hair, one the of the girls in blue took me for a long massage. She sat on my back during the massage and I took it as a positive signal and caressed her legs. The massage was too soft, but we had a fun little chat. When she offered to massage my cock, I showed her I wanted her **** and started touching her tits. She said it was not possible there, so I said her to come to my hotel. She didn't give me a clear answer but gave me her number and I gave her the card of my hotel near PNL. Shortly after 8 pm (these places close early) she rang me and said she was finished and would arrive in a few minutes. I met her downstairs and took her out for a drink. When she followed me back to my room, she went directly for a shower. She left after one full hour of action, as she had to be bride's maid at a wedding the next morning. I paid her 400k and told her to come back for the whole night the next day.
Face was 6, body 8 with nice tits but a bit soft. GFE but this comes with too much chatting with her Hue accent that's too difficult for my limited Vietnamese skills; after the second day, I was relieved when she left to visit friends.
Hey guys. Looking for information on more under the radar blow and go's that don't rip you off.
I've already been to Benny's and My Tien on DBP. Both places are excellent, I'm just looking to mix things up a bit.
I've been to 84 NPK twice. While the blow was excellent, it's quite annoying how the lady in charge always tries to hustle me for $600k every time.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;1231994]Jean you reported this place offers BJ and GFE. Question, does the BJ come with CIM or is it just blow all over her hand and a wet towel?[/QUOTE]Hi,
I was there once and had a good experience. Anyway, also read through Raverboy's comment!
In my case, the BJ came with a CIM!
JR
Any of you guys know of any BNG's in Phu Nhuan, or any Hot Tocs? I am not interested in any of the Cafe Om's or Bia Om's.
Thanks,
H
[QUOTE=Hardlock1; 1237052]Any of you guys know of any BNG's in Phu Nhuan, or any Hot Tocs? I am not interested in any of the Cafe Om's or Bia Om's.
Thanks,
H[/QUOTE]I live in Phu Nhuan but haven't seen any hot tocs around here. The BNG on DBP are about 5 mins away from where I'm at so I usually go there.
[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1236384]Hey guys. Looking for information on more under the radar blow and go's that don't rip you off.
I've already been to Benny's and My Tien on DBP. Both places are excellent, I'm just looking to mix things up a bit.
I've been to 84 NPK twice. While the blow was excellent, it's quite annoying how the lady in charge always tries to hustle me for $600k every time.[/QUOTE]What are the current prices and Tips in Benny's and My Tien. Planning to go.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1238261]What are the current prices and Tips in Benny's and My Tien. Planning to go.[/QUOTE]Was at My Tien yesterday. 250,000 total for a BJ with CIM.
Walked in, went upstairs on the little spiral staircase, she came in, wiped me down, took off her bra and dropped her panties. Then she sucked like a champion.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1223632]Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) : The same as Benny or My Tien. Some girls to choose about 12am. They open till 3am. 2 girls about 7, the rest were way below. I picked one of the 7, 21 years old, short black hair, very sweet smile. Friendly girl! BJ was ok. C-Cup boobs. 100k room. 100k tip.
Korean Quarter: I went to the same HT on Ba Vi. The second one on the right. The girls were very cute. I took an 8 with natural D-Cup boobs. The service was great! BUT THEN. They wanted to charge me 1. 2 million for the service. I said no way. I paid much less the last time. The girl asked me in the room if I know the price. MISTAKE: I said yes, I was here last week. After a long discussion, I paid 800k and left. FUCKING RIP OFF PLACE. AVOID!
XVNT: On the bridge 'Cau Thi Nghe' there are some SW standing waiting for customers. They looked all like junkies, what I saw on that days. But there are different girls every time, so maybe next time cuter girls.
PTH: There are some Cafe Oms there. I picked a cafe somewhat about 400+. They had a room behind to serve. But the girls were all too urgly, so I refused, paid my drink and left. THANKS TO ALWAYSHARD45!
Question:
A girl approached me late at 1am on XVNT, she came very close. Nobody was on the street! When I looked back, she just smile. I just couldn't realize fast enough to ask her if she is a motorbike girl. On another day, two girls on a bike just smile and made some strange sound at me. It was really crowed so I did not start a conversation. WERE THEY MOTORBIKE girls? Any tips how to approach them the next time? How are the prices?[/QUOTE]I am looking for company to have fun together at the Korean Quarter. 500 for a girl and 150 for the house. Recently all houses raised the price for room from 100 to 150, price for girl is still the same 500. I can give you a bike ride from district 10 or tan binh to the places free of charge. The one on Ba Vi is VIP I believe. Going with me you pay the same price 650 total, no haggle over any penny more. You pay after you are happy with the service. Girls are very nice. 18 to 25 why. O max, scores from 7 to 9. I am a frequent customer and I get discount 100 on my ticket if I take someone with me. Cheers! Contact me at[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] For sure it is not much but I like to have a company.
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[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1223632]Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) : The same as Benny or My Tien. Some girls to choose about 12am. They open till 3am. 2 girls about 7, the rest were way below. I picked one of the 7, 21 years old, short black hair, very sweet smile. Friendly girl! BJ was ok. C-Cup boobs. 100k room. 100k tip.
Korean Quarter: I went to the same HT on Ba Vi. The second one on the right. The girls were very cute. I took an 8 with natural D-Cup boobs. The service was great! BUT THEN. They wanted to charge me 1. 2 million for the service. I said no way. I paid much less the last time. The girl asked me in the room if I know the price. MISTAKE: I said yes, I was here last week. After a long discussion, I paid 800k and left. FUCKING RIP OFF PLACE. AVOID!
XVNT: On the bridge 'Cau Thi Nghe' there are some SW standing waiting for customers. They looked all like junkies, what I saw on that days. But there are different girls every time, so maybe next time cuter girls.
PTH: There are some Cafe Oms there. I picked a cafe somewhat about 400+. They had a room behind to serve. But the girls were all too urgly, so I refused, paid my drink and left. THANKS TO ALWAYSHARD45!
Question:
A girl approached me late at 1am on XVNT, she came very close. Nobody was on the street! When I looked back, she just smile. I just couldn't realize fast enough to ask her if she is a motorbike girl. On another day, two girls on a bike just smile and made some strange sound at me. It was really crowed so I did not start a conversation. WERE THEY MOTORBIKE girls? Any tips how to approach them the next time? How are the prices?[/QUOTE]I am looking for company to have fun together at the Korean Quarter. 500 for a girl and 150 for the house. Recently all houses raised the price for room from 100 to 150, price for girl is still the same 500. I can give you a bike ride from district 10 or tan binh to the places free of charge. The one on Ba Vi is VIP I believe. Going with me you pay the same price 650 total, no haggle over any penny more. U pay after you are happy with the service. Girls are very nice. 18 to 25 why. O max, scores from 7 to 9. I am a frequent customer and I get discount 100 on my ticket if I take someone with me. Cheers! Contact me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] For sure it is not much but I like to have a company.
For BnG service I don't really like. 200 to 250 for a BJ in 10. 15 mins, can't change position and I often feel embarrassed with the only BJ position: lying on my back while a girl sucking my bro. With FJ in private room I can thrust in and out her mouth anyway I like, slow or fast, and then finish with a nice cum after working her pussy all over the place in 1 hour.
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What damage for massage and blow job only?
Zzz, my bad for not reading the rule "don't post email add". Got 3 warning points LOL. Anyway, I paid the membership fee and can pm, receive pm now. Anyone want to hang out and go together to those places in Photo Gallery? My offer still stands, free bike ride from district 10 or tanbinh. For the legendary Johndao, might I see you in person, I am willing to pay for your ticket. Anyone interested can leave a post here I will pm him with my email.
Cheers! Happy lunar new year!
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1240547]Zzz, my bad for not reading the rule "don't post email add". Got 3 warning points LOL. Anyway, I paid the membership fee and can pm, receive pm now. Anyone want to hang out and go together to those places in Photo Gallery? My offer still stands, free bike ride from district 10 or tanbinh. For the legendary Johndao, might I see you in person, I am willing to pay for your ticket. Anyone interested can leave a post here I will pm him with my email.
Cheers! Happy lunar new year![/QUOTE]To Xuperxstar.
I will be in HMC next week let me know by PM if you are going to be there we can get together for a drink.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1240547]Zzz, my bad for not reading the rule "don't post email add". Got 3 warning points LOL. Anyway, I paid the membership fee and can pm, receive pm now. Anyone want to hang out and go together to those places in Photo Gallery? My offer still stands, free bike ride from district 10 or tanbinh. For the legendary Johndao, might I see you in person, I am willing to pay for your ticket. Anyone interested can leave a post here I will pm him with my email.
Cheers! Happy lunar new year![/QUOTE]Hey XuperXtar,
Are you still in HCM? I'm here for a few days. Can't PM because I don't have my credit card here to pay the subscription. I'm Vietnamese speaking so we could get around. I'll be staying at my cousins place in a few days, not sure were it is yet until he picks me up. I'm currently staying at Quan 12. You got to Viet sim card to make calls?
Hi,
I'm heading to Vietnam this summer and currently doing my homework. After reading ALOT of pages, I've concluded that what I want is to be found in the Korean quarter. The thing is, I'm Vietnamese, albeit I look SEA-generic. People in Thailand, Philipines, Hong Kong and Malaysia have all mistaken me for a native. I have read that Korean quarter is off limit to Vietnamese, but is it just local Vietnamese or does it also apply to Viet Kieu. How do they check?
I'm also looking for more upscale FS / BJ places. I'm willing to pay extra for better surroundings and look. I don't have much free time and need therefore some advice about places with almost 100% chance of finding good looking young ladies and smooth setup. Don't care about bars and the likes, just want to go in, choose, do my thing and get out. Even better if I could do it at my Hotel. I know it is hard in Vietnam, but any help is appreciated.
Hi, I'm heading to Vietnam this summer and currently doing my homework. After reading ALOT of pages, I've concluded that what I want is to be found in the Korean quarter. The thing is, I'm Vietnamese, albeit I look SEA-generic. People in Thailand, Philipines, Hong Kong and Malaysia have all mistaken me for a native. I have read that Korean quarter is off limit to Vietnamese, but is it just local Vietnamese or does it also apply to Viet Kieu. How do they check?
I'm also looking for more upscale FS / BJ places. I'm willing to pay extra for better surroundings and look. I don't have much free time and need therefore some advice about places with almost 100% chance of finding good looking young ladies and smooth setup. Don't care about bars and the likes, just want to go in, choose, do my thing and get out. Even better if I could do it at my Hotel. I know it is hard in Vietnam, but any help is appreciated.
Appologies if this post ID duplicated, had tech problems.
[QUOTE=Dette Er Tull; 1245513]Hi, I'm heading to Vietnam this summer and currently doing my homework. After reading ALOT of pages, I've concluded that what I want is to be found in the Korean quarter. The thing is, I'm Vietnamese, albeit I look SEA-generic. People in Thailand, Philipines, Hong Kong and Malaysia have all mistaken me for a native. I have read that Korean quarter is off limit to Vietnamese, but is it just local Vietnamese or does it also apply to Viet Kieu. How do they check?
I'm also looking for more upscale FS / BJ places. I'm willing to pay extra for better surroundings and look. I don't have much free time and need therefore some advice about places with almost 100% chance of finding good looking young ladies and smooth setup. Don't care about bars and the likes, just want to go in, choose, do my thing and get out. Even better if I could do it at my Hotel. I know it is hard in Vietnam, but any help is appreciated.
Appologies if this post I'd duplicated, had tech problems.[/QUOTE]Hey dude, I'm also Viet kieu and didn't have any problems going to the Korean shops twice. When you get to Ba Vi street, there should be a Massage place with a hair salon next to it both with big gates. FS is at the hair salon, the massage is a legitimate joint without FS.
Place is really nice with really hot girls in green dresses. Rooms are nice and spacious enough. I think its about as upscale as you can get in saigon.
You shouldn't have a problem getting in. For assurance just speak English. When you walk in, they will ask you "massage?" to which you nod and a girl will bring you up. Nothing to be nervous about. Although I should tell you the sex is quite mechanical. They just want you to cum and be finished. I kept being told to hurry up which does not do much for the libido. So absolutely zero GFE here, you're essentially paying for a fuckbag, a really attractive one. Total damage was 650k.
For a good BJ joint head to Bennys (110 Dien Bien Phu). Haven't been there yet but it seems to be the spot to be for a quick release. Apparently costs 220k.
Hope it helps.
Thanks for the info DecoyVanKnox.
I was going play "I'm adopted and only speak English"-card.
I been here a month now, and have been so busy that I had not had much time to do anything. Went to a Massage Parlor in Go Vap a couple of times, but the girls there are such shits. It is a typical rub & tug, and they beg for money like they are starving and need 5 truckloads of food, or something. I got tired of it and didn't go back. Went to 84 NPK today, saw a girl named Ngoc.
Her face a 6, maybe, body about a 6. She aint much on tits or the nice round Viet ass, but guys, let me tell you something. I am well, well over 60 years old. I ain't no Spring Chicken. But that girl went to work on me, seems she sorta liked me. When I told her my age, she was shocked. Anyway, she did her job, and got me off. Then, she would not stop. I tried to get her to stop. She refused. She was like the Energizer Bunny and kept going and going and going. And, what do you know? She did something that hasnt happened to me in years: she just got me off again! Wow. And she had such a happy smile on her face cause she did it. I was proud of her, and she was proud of herself! LOL
If you going to #84, you owe it to yourself to see Ngoc. Sorta short hair, a little cute, great, great attitude. Forget looking for Miss Vietnam. Ngoc will give you what you went there for.
H is out.
When people refer to the Korean qaurter, I presume the girls are still al Vietnamese, right? I doubt if you would get Korean girls for that low a price!
Secondly, are there any bars or lounges that you could go with an FL or a girl you picked up from soemwhere else and have a good time drinking, dancing, groping and making out without it being frowned upon? My impression is that most of the bars in District 1 have their own ladies. If this is in fact allowed at some bars, where would you find FLs or ladies that would be willing to do this before consumating the deal?
Thanks
Was wondering if anyone knows if the girls work for tips only, or if they get a cut of the entrance fee? I'm sure if you asked them they would say only tips to make you feel bad for them and tip more but if anyone knows for sure I would be curious to know.
Ok, this was my experience today. Yours might vary somewhat, I dunno. I been looking for a decent place to get a good massage and as much extra as I can without once again going thru that.
Rub & tug experience we all hate like hell. In going to the Big C in Go Vap, as I left the Co-Op Mart on Nguyen Khem heading for Go Vap on Nguyen Khem street, just before we always got to Pham Ngu Lao street in Go Vap where U-turn left to go to the Big C, the street changes names from Nguyen Khem to Nguyen Thai Son. Well, at the stop light before you get to Pham Ngu Lao, on the right side of the street is a neon sign that says "Hotel Hon En-Masssage". Today I got out of the taxi and walked down that street, Le Lai, cause that hotel is about 3 blocks off the main drag. Anyway, walked down Le Lai, and when it met the cross-street, Le Loi, you hang a left and Hotel Hon En is there on the left. Go into the basement and the Massage office is there, where they charge 150, 000 vnd for VIP 70 minutes or 200, 000vnd for VIP 90 minutes. I choose the 90 minute version and went upstairs. Nice. Clean, big rooms. The girl came in. About an 8 I would guess. Named Kim. 25 years old, cuter than a new button. We talked, she got me some water, told me to get undressed. Put me in the tub and SHE washed me. All over! Nice. Dried me off and lay me down and proceeded to give me one hell of a massage. I told her my back was hurting, and it was, and she did her best to make it better. She did well. We talked in Vietnamese cause she don't have any English. My Tieng Viet isn't the greatest, but I get by. Anyway, she put the question to me, and here I am, laying there, wondering how I get thru all those tight clothes that feel like triple-strength Spandex. She wanted 300, 000vnd for the old rub and tug. I said no way. Uh-uh! Let her massage me a while longer, then she got impatient, cause we had stopped talking about her money! LOL She IS Viet, after all! Ha ha ha ha I asked her for a blow job. She said 800, 000 so I knew it was on the menu. I said no. I negotiated for her to take off her bottom. She agreed to 500k and BJ and bottom off. Let me tell you something, guys. That was nice. No, it was awesome. She did her job well. She is not a pro at it, but she is damn sure good enough for us! It was so funny. This girl was clean! Clean! I told her I was going to lick her a little, she was frightened. But she let me. She blew it! She cum about a half a bucket full! Then, she just laid there and gave me this strange look, like "you dog! You made me cum!" ha ha ha ha That was fun.
Her name is Kim, and she is So 19, number 19. I did not get a chance to see any of the other girls because they are on the second floor, I think. But this is a class place, way, way out of the way, so I don't think they worry too much about the police. 138B Le Loi, P4, Go Vap. Diadiem it.
Happy hunting guys.
H is out
[QUOTE=Hardlock1; 1250732]Ok, this was my experience today. Yours might vary somewhat, I dunno. I been looking for a decent place to get a good massage and as much extra as I can without once again going thru that.
Her name is Kim, and she is So 19, number 19. I did not get a chance to see any of the other girls because they are on the second floor, I think. But this is a class place, way, way out of the way, so I don't think they worry too much about the police. 138B Le Loi, P4, Go Vap. Diadiem it.
Happy hunting guys.
H is out[/QUOTE]Is Le Loi street currently a grey dirt type unsealed road? If so then I've passed that Hotel / MP numerous times going to my sister inlaws house. Always wondered what the massage was like in there. Thanks for the report.
You do know that for what you paid you could have visited the Korean Barbershops and got laid for that and had change?
There are numerous B&G's nearby that area. Have you been to any? (Not a B&G fan)
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1251052]Is Le Loi street currently a grey dirt type unsealed road? If so then I've passed that Hotel / MP numerous times going to my sister inlaws house. Always wondered what the massage was like in there. Thanks for the report.
You do know that for what you paid you could have visited the Korean Barbershops and got laid for that and had change?
There are numerous B&G's nearby that area. Have you been to any? (Not a B&G fan)[/QUOTE]Yes Mik, thats the place. It is well off the beaten track. And yeah, I know I could have gone to the Korean places. I was specifically looking for some place that doesn't treat you like.
A dumb-ass tourist. The idea was, she wasnt supposed to do it, but she did, and enjoyed herself for her efforts. I felt it was worth it. Sorry if I ruin the perception of prices. She was cute as hell though! LOL And never found any B&G's in that area. Would like to know where some of them are.
H is out
[QUOTE=Hardlock1; 1251380]Yes Mik, thats the place. It is well off the beaten track. And yeah, I know I could have gone to the Korean places. I was specifically looking for some place that doesn't treat you like.
A dumb-ass tourist. The idea was, she wasnt supposed to do it, but she did, and enjoyed herself for her efforts. I felt it was worth it. Sorry if I ruin the perception of prices. She was cute as hell though! LOL And never found any B&G's in that area. Would like to know where some of them are.
H is out[/QUOTE]I know what you mean, I sometimes visit MP's just to see what its like inside and how far I can go, Most times I get disappointed and wish I did just go to Kimchi town. Still its the thrill of the hunt. Have you got a set of wheels? (preferably 2 not 4) I've sent you a PM.
[QUOTE=DecoyVanKnox; 1247884]Hey dude, I'm also Viet kieu and didn't have any problems going to the Korean shops twice. When you get to Ba Vi street, there should be a Massage place with a hair salon next to it both with big gates. FS is at the hair salon, the massage is a legitimate joint without FS.
Place is really nice with really hot girls in green dresses. Rooms are nice and spacious enough. I think its about as upscale as you can get in saigon.
You shouldn't have a problem getting in. For assurance just speak English. When you walk in, they will ask you "massage?" to which you nod and a girl will bring you up. Nothing to be nervous about. Although I should tell you the sex is quite mechanical. They just want you to cum and be finished. I kept being told to hurry up which does not do much for the libido. So absolutely zero GFE here, you're essentially paying for a fuckbag, a really attractive one. Total damage was 650k.
For a good BJ joint head to Bennys (110 Dien Bien Phu). Haven't been there yet but it seems to be the spot to be for a quick release. Apparently costs 220k.
Hope it helps.[/QUOTE]In advance: I am terribly sorry if I am saying / asking something that somebody has said / asked before but I could not bother reading more posts / threads as I have spent many hours reading already.
The quote above does not have that much to do with the following I am about to write but it is somewhat related to this. I am really down on my luck and unhappy at the moment personally. I am totally new to the mongering scene and speak barely any Vietnamese. (only about 50 simple words) I am willing to learn Vietnamese, but it is not going to get a lot better any time soon as I do not have much free time. (allthough I am considering becomming a permanent resident of HCMC) I am stuck living with a friend's (female) family so I barely have any privacy and my time is being tightly controlled, I can therefore only attempt to monger during the daytime. I have read several threads to try and learn some mongering jargon and basic information.
Today I tried to 'scout' what is know as the Korean District near the airport. Funnily instead of going to Ba Vi and the right streets for what I was looking for (FS) I took a right turn at Phan Thuc Duyen into Thang Long street, there was nothing there except 1 odd looking place with totally pitchblack windows, I had no idea what this was because the discription was in Korean (familair to anybody?). I then took a right heading into Hau Giang street, I saw 2 Hot Tocs with semi frosted windows and 1 Nha Hang (restaurant) in the middle of the Hot Toc's with Korean words all over their sign with taped off black windows. (Does anybody know if these places are legit or offer something?) After turning right into Tran Quoc Hoan street I saw some place in Korean that seemed to offer a foot massage and had the word "Business" on the sign, the doors are totally frosted except 2 small squares on each door. (Again, does anybody know this place?) Also noticed that the small shopping mall with the Superbowl bowling centre has 2 massage places, on the ground floor there is a foot massage place. I noticed some pretty slutty dressed girls coming from there so I wonder if this place offers more and also on the second floor of this 'shopping mall' there is another massage place, from outside of the mall and inside all the windows are frosted / taped, again wondering if? I hope this info is actually usefull to anybody but I thought I would share anything that might contribute as others have done the same for fellow mongers.
Now going back to myself, I actually did not dare to check these places out because I chickened out. The moment I wanted to take action all these questions popped in my head.
1) I am very keen on my privacy, do any of these places in the Korean district ask for keeping your passport or any other important document? (how does this work in general?)
2) This might be a stupid question but. Do the places in the Korean district also have Korean girls besides VN girls?
3) I read before that often all they ask of you is 'massage? ' and if its 'the right kind of place' youll be taken upstairs to a (private) room or you will be shown your selection of girls. But what if the shop does not seem like a FS joint but it is, how can you tell besides frosted windows and skimpy clothing? Driving around Ho Chi Minh City I see that all Hot Toc / Spa girls wear skimpy clothing and many shops have frosted windows (the place I go to to get a proper massage and hairwash has girls wear the shortest skirts and has frosted windows) but that does not mean they offer anything they can just tease you but offer nothing. (I am frightened of the embarassement of publicely asking for something which is not offered I guess)
4) Related to No. 3, can I conclude (from reading threads / posts) that a Hot Toc tends to be a HJ / BJ place and a massage place has a higher chance of providing FS? Even if the place only advertises a foot massage?
Sorry for all these questions but I really don't want to be the moron that drives the prices up because of not knowing anything, I think its better to ask and then go than be afraid to ask and mess things up.
[QUOTE=Towely; 1257399]In advance: I am terribly sorry if I am saying / asking something that somebody has said / asked before but I could not bother reading more posts / threads as I have spent many hours reading already.
The quote above does not have that much to do with the following I am about to write but it is somewhat related to this. I am really down on my luck and unhappy at the moment personally. I am totally new to the mongering scene....[/QUOTE]Heh, you don't have to say sorry, same thing happened to me before. I could help. Check your inbox.
[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1236384]Hey guys. Looking for information on more under the radar blow and go's that don't rip you off.
I've already been to Benny's and My Tien on DBP. Both places are excellent, I'm just looking to mix things up a bit.
I've been to 84 NPK twice. While the blow was excellent, it's quite annoying how the lady in charge always tries to hustle me for $600k every time.[/QUOTE]If you want to "mix things up a bit", try this place called Trang Anh on D5 street. Its a 5 min ride from My Tien. The lady who owns My Tien also owns Trang Anh. Its more for locals I think but if you ask one of the girls at My Tien, she will give you directions. Same price as My Tien. BTW, this is the owners house so its open later than My Tien. Girls can still be found past midnight.
just wanted to say hi to everyone, and thank you for posting all the helpful reports. i lived in hcmc from '08 to '09 and sampled a few different massage places while i was there. at each place, i only got hj's. i'm going back this summer and looking forward to trying some hot tocs. i used to see them all over the place, with lots of cute girls out front, but i never knew if they offered extra services. there was even one down the street from me in phu nhuan but i never worked up the courage to go inside, and eventually it closed.
i'd like to share some of my experiences from a few years ago. hopefully it's still somewhat helpful.
the first mp i went to was in district 3, around the corner of vo van tan and pasteur, i don't remember the name. the girl spoke no english and at the time my vietnamese was very bad. therefore, she did not ask if i wanted an hj, she just started stroking. however, she was really cute with a great slim body. at the end she handed me a tip card. i had no idea what the protocol was, so i gave her 300k. she seemed to want more but didn't know how to ask for it except to keep pushing the card at me. but eventually she gave up and accepted it. i didn't know i was overpaying.
the next time, i went to vien dong on pham ngu lao. i enjoyed getting the full treatment, the sauna, hot tub, etc. the girl was also pretty cute, i seem to get lucky in that regard. this time she held firm on 500k and i paid it, not knowing any better. i know, i know, stupid. but i learned my lesson from that.
talking to my friend, i found out i was overpaying. so next time i paid 100k, this time at festival. i thought it was pretty good but i personally preferred vien dong. the girl was pretty good but she seemed a bit disappointed that i woudn't go above 100k. she got me off quick and that was it.
the forth massage was the best by far. i went back to vien dong and i got a girl who was cute as a button. she kept pinching my cheeks and saying "de thuuuong!" i have kind of a baby face, whatever. she asked to massa pepe, and i casually said hmmm maybe, and suggested 100k. she seemed sad and kept asking for more. finally i said. 100k. neu tot (if it's good) , then 200k. she finally agreed and went to work. i also asked her in vietnamese to go slow. it was a very long, enjoyable experience, and she let me feel her ass and tits over her clothes. finally i asked her to speed up and had a very satisfying finish. she definitely earned her 200k. she gave me another kiss on the check and her phone number and sent me on my way. unfortunately i was about to leave vn so i never called her.
what i learned was, a little vietnamese and negotiating skill goes a long way. however, when i go back i think i'll try some other places outside of d1 with better deals. i'm also really looking forward to trying hot tocs. i enjoy hj's but i can always use my own hand. bjs are something i can't give myself, so that's true value, as i see it.
i read through these forums and it sounds like benny's is the place to try. but i'll be in hcmc for about 6 days so i'll be able to try a few different places and report back.
i was wondering one thing, though: has anyone paid for two girls at a hot toc? is the rate just double what it is for one girl? when do you request it, when you're choosing girls or beforehand? i was really interested in a story given in a report several pages down, about someone who had two girls compete against each other to get him off and receive the bigger tip. sounds like a great time, but i'd have to brush up on my vietnamese to be able to explain the the rules of the competition to the girls.
i apologize if this has already been answered. i read the forums pretty extensively but i didn't find that much on this topic.
thanks everyone. glad to be a part of the forum.
[QUOTE=LeeBruce888; 1220744]When I was searching internet and came across this website about VIETNAMESE HOT BABES FOR SEX & HIRE. So I went in and check. Wow indeed good nice chicks.
Check this out now :
[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=MutantChicken;1222179]The guy running this is a scam artist. He uses fake pics. Gets street girls inflates the prices then pimps them to unsuspecting tourist. He is a singaporean convict. On the run. Avoid at all costs[/QUOTE]Still doing my homework for the summer when I stumble upon these:
[url]Vietnammassageescort.com[/url]
[url]www.tour69.net[/url]
Same scam as above?
Exspensive, but do they deliver?
[QUOTE=Dette Er Tull; 1268647]Still doing my homework for the summer when I stumble upon these:
[url]Vietnammassageescort.com[/url]
[url]www.tour69.net[/url]
Same scam as above?
Exspensive, but do they deliver?[/QUOTE]Never mind, I read post 2 years back and the guy behind tour69 was mentioned. Although there is apperently a new guy who run that operation now, it is still a scam. Anybody else have any other thoughts?
The sites that come up when you search for escorts when you are 'googling' offer a very expensive service. I enjoy hawking around D7 in the many Hot Tocs there. I have had 2 girls. Stark naked for 400, 000vnd. One blew me and I played with the others tits.
Great fun!
[QUOTE=Dette Er Tull; 1268647][url]Vietnammassageescort.com[/url]
[url]www.tour69.net[/url]
Same scam as above?[/QUOTE]I'd say this is a scam. Looking at the "Saigon Dream Tour" package, it costs $1, 300 for 3 days & 2 nights in SGN. Includes hotel, transportation and daily food along with traveling to secret spots for fun. Based on the info provided from the site their total cost for the trip including all the tips to girls etc would be max $300 USD. So their markup is $1, 000?
As for legitimacy, its not. How they can operate is beyond me.
I guess its safe to say that escort service in Vietnam is bad, if not non existing.
When you guys are referring to HT in D7, are you referring to 262 Nguyen Thi Thap or Phu My Hung (north of Nguyen Van Linh at Citimart) or both. I have heard there is a cluster of HT in PMH, but note really sure where that is. I don't drive motos my self and I will not have much time on my own when I visit this summer, so more precise adresses or name would help alot.
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1223632]Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) :
A few metres after Ben Ny?
I've been looking for this (for research purposes.) for a while and found its closest appproximation by accident tonight- maybe?
Hot Toc May Lanh. Its card all says " Anh Dao" at 322 DPB- much more than a few metres from Ben Ny.
It was the only spot along that stretch still open after midnight, papasan lazing outside- 3 or 4 staff inside.
I got the "blonde" see early 20s, but, as it turned out, clueless!
Mechanical is as complimentary as I can be. All in for 200k.
The interesting thing is that she was expecting me to want boomboom!
Last time I was there, early on a Sunday am, the post MILF mature who took me was on the same track.
Not my gig but I suspect many of you might take a shot?
Enjoy!
Hello all,
I am new to this forum, so if do makes any mistakes in here. I apologize first.
Been living in HCMC for 8 months now and haven't done much exploring about MP.
I did some searching online and found a couples of phone # of girls.
They range from 20. 25, I've only checked one girl out and she is cute.
700k for one hour, but there is no limit on how many times you can bang her.
The one I meet up yesterday was about a 6, but nice round real boobs.
Happy hunting,
I know YMMW, but are there any chance of BJ in MP / Spa in D1? I'm going to stay in D1, but since I'll be with family I need something nearby and easy accessible. I'm not a pub / bar / disco guy, so going to those places alone will raise alarm with family if I get caught.
[QUOTE=Dette Er Tull;1270162]I know YMMW, but are there any chance of BJ in MP / Spa in D1? I'm going to stay in D1, but since I'll be with family I need something nearby and easy accessible. I'm not a pub / bar / disco guy, so going to those places alone will raise alarm with family if I get caught.[/QUOTE]No BBBJ in D1.
Best bet is to take taxi to 110 Dien Ben Phu (Binh Thanh District) and go to Ben Ny.
You don't want main Phu My Hung. Most of the massage places there are legit (and will give a great massage). Go to lotte mart (any xion driver will know where that is) walk along the road next to it. There are loads and it is obvious. They all offer pretty much the same deal.
Cheers
The forum is so inactive =. =, I am an asian american and I will do a mongering trip to Vung Tau from May 25 to 27, anyone interested in joining? The only thing I will do there is going for FJ massages. Bars maybe if I have a companion.
For HCM city I am a frequent visitor to Korean town so it is getting kinda boring. Lineup, pikc a girl, take a showever, f then leave. Nothing new or as exciting as when I 1st started. Anyone interested can post here I will PM.
[QUOTE=Tra Zmo; 1269500]
[QUOTE=Jean Rem; 1223632]Hoang Anh HT on DBP (few meters after Benny) :
A few metres after Ben Ny?
I've been looking for this (for research purposes.) for a while and found its closest appproximation by accident tonight- maybe?
Hot Toc May Lanh. Its card all says " Anh Dao" at 322 DPB- much more than a few metres from Ben Ny.[/QUOTE]This is the place near Benny's that you were looking for.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar;1282382]For HCM city I am a frequent visitor to Korean town so it is getting kinda boring. Lineup, pikc a girl, take a showever, f then leave.[/QUOTE]
I'll be visiting Koreatown in August. Are the places where you can request a lineup massage places or Hot Tocs?
Queen Salon.
88A Huong Vuong street.
Anyone tried it?
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1294051]Queen Salon.
88A Huong Vuong street.
Anyone tried it?[/QUOTE]This is an massage parlor. There so many lovely girl with good body. I've tried. VIP ticket: 175k VND, Normal ticket: 100k VND. With separated rooms. Good facilities, elevator.
They offer HJ, BJ, body steam. The tip is depend on you. That time, I tipped 250k VND for HJ and BJ.
Very good!
[QUOTE=MyKnight1990; 1295217]This is an massage parlor. There so many lovely girl with good body. I've tried. VIP ticket: 175k VND, Normal ticket: 100k VND. With separated rooms. Good facilities, elevator.
They offer HJ, BJ, body steam. The tip is depend on you. That time, I tipped 250k VND for HJ and BJ.
Very good![/QUOTE]I heard they had one other service available at a higher price.
Its very nice. Lot of beautiful chicks. A bit expensive.
Anyone going in near end of Dec 2012? Pm me your number or email and we ll go aound. Checking places.
[QUOTE=Xohai; 1296259]Its very nice. Lot of beautiful chicks. A bit expensive.
Anyone going in near end of Dec 2012? Pm me your number or email and we ll go aound. Checking places.[/QUOTE]How expensive these days. Not talking about the beer. That place (name starts with a "V") used to be an ok deal until they multiplied their off-site fees by about 10. Haven't been there in more than a year, but my last 5 visits, the phrase "lots of beautiful chicks" would not apply. (has it changed for the better?) 91 bar downtown for example was always a better lineup overall, and the best ones there clearly a notch up from the best at this bar you mention. To me, this place is a seemingly more wholesome version of the HBT bars, made a lot more difficult for customers to navigate, and with less sexy outfits, less playfulness allowed, much more likelihood of padded bill, and so on. Not good value for money, IMHO. Another thing I noticed at this place: if you go in there solo, or if the manager / mamasan doesn't like your look for whatever reason, you'll be totally ignored at the bar, and not much chance to have any company. They'll leave you alone with nothing to do but sip your drink and look at the tv.
Hi Gentleman and Ladies, I arrived at Saigon Thursday and went straight to Mui Ne, had a short look around, nothing jumped out on me. 3 days later arrive in Saigon and thought I would start out easy and go to Ben ne (I am a virgin) and hopped into a taxi and said take me to 110 you no where. I was hoping he new where to go and when he pulled up outside the restaurant I new he didn't, there man opened the door of the taxi and said come in, to which I said I need a haircut at the other 110, a few words to the driver and off we go to the other end of the street. (I know its been bought up numerous times) Arrive at the palace lit up like a Christmas tree not hard to miss. Walk in towards mama who without saying a word holds up 120000vd, next girl in queue stands up, short, puppy fat and 3/10, advise from forum is select the one you want. So I see this size 6 with big tits and cannon ball bum. 8/10 looks just walking a used up client out and I said Hi, this is where the fun started. A thorough wipe down and me telling her how beautiful she is pointing to the melons resulted with the boobs exposed and the pants down to see a lovely trimmed puss about the size of a small split peach. Mr wobbly is getting restless at this stage especially when she started to lick my balls. On a side note I had been saving myself for 1 month for this event so you can guess what happens next. 6 deep stokes and I unloaded, and give credit where credits due she kept on sucking even when I was finished. So end result 120 ticket 150 tip (held up 5 fingers but I can't count) would I go back again, you bet tomorrow it seems or maybe Korea town, haven't made up my mind. Next stop Hoi AN and the Nang, I will keep you posted.
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Wow that was a great first post Skippyboy. Keep up the reports and welcome to the forum.
[quote]On a side note I had been saving myself for 1 month for this event so you can guess what happens next[/quote]No need for that buddy. Maximum semen production cycles at 24 hours. Any more than that won't produce anything extra. Life is too short not to orgasm every day. Besides, it's good for your prostate!
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1294051]Queen Salon.
88A Huong Vuong street.
Anyone tried it?[/QUOTE]I can't seem to find that street in google or diadiem. Do you mean Hung Vuong? Is Queen Salon near the intersection Hung Vuong / Le Hong Phong.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1296687]How expensive these days. Not talking about the beer. That place (name starts with a "V") used to be an ok deal until they multiplied their off-site fees by about 10. Haven't been there in more than a year, but my last 5 visits, the phrase "lots of beautiful chicks" would not apply. (has it changed for the better?) 91 bar downtown for example was always a better lineup overall, and the best ones there clearly a notch up from the best at this bar you mention. To me, this place is a seemingly more wholesome version of the HBT bars, made a lot more difficult for customers to navigate, and with less sexy outfits, less playfulness allowed, much more likelihood of padded bill, and so on. Not good value for money, IMHO. Another thing I noticed at this place: if you go in there solo, or if the manager / mamasan doesn't like your look for whatever reason, you'll be totally ignored at the bar, and not much chance to have any company. They'll leave you alone with nothing to do but sip your drink and look at the tv.[/QUOTE]It is starting with V.
You are right. If mms doesn't like you, the girls won't come over, but there are some friendly girls. All the hot one are usually occupied, but they have a few nice one sitting around. I was able to get a line up, but it is hard to choose since it is a bit dark. All the girls have same price which I thought is kinda weird. Was able to take the 2nd hottest one back, but she has fake tits and rush.
[QUOTE=Xohai; 1296259]Its very nice. Lot of beautiful chicks. A bit expensive.
Anyone going in near end of Dec 2012? Pm me your number or email and we ll go aound. Checking places.[/QUOTE]Oh really? 4 years of living in Saigon and I can categorically say in my opinion that VIC is one of the worst rip off girlie bars one can ever wish to visit in this City. Beware the sweet smiling bartenders, the dour faced one is the favourite of the 2 sister owners for her talent for miscounting on bills, pouring from paid liquor bottles, etc. You have been warned. I welcome anyone to prove me wrong.
[QUOTE=Dette Er Tull;1297351]I can't seem to find that street in google or diadiem. Do you mean Hung Vuong? Is Queen Salon near the intersection Hung Vuong / Le Hong Phong.[/QUOTE]I've tried one time, Hung Vuong street, It neat intersection Hung Vuong / Su Van Hanh, behind An Dong market.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1294051]Queen Salon.
88A Huong Vuong street.
Anyone tried it?[/QUOTE]I remember that the address is 88B Hung Vuong st.
[QUOTE=MyKnight1990;1298098]I've tried one time, Hung Vuong street, It neat intersection Hung Vuong / Su Van Hanh, behind An Dong market.[/QUOTE]Your spelling is correct, mine was wrong. Could have sworn I saw 88A but it's possible that was the next door building I was looking at. Either way, Anyone looking for it should be able to find it now. Did you partake of the higher priced full services? If so, how was it? And how was the lineup? I only got as far as the front desk downstairs, did not get a look at who was up on the next level. The 3 who were downstairs didn't look too enticing, I have to say. But I've been told upstairs is much better. When I say upstairs, it looked like it was a mezzanine level up beyond the front desk.
[QUOTE=Xohai; 1297354]It is starting with V.
You are right. If mms doesn't like you, the girls won't come over, but there are some friendly girls. All the hot one are usually occupied, but they have a few nice one sitting around. I was able to get a line up, but it is hard to choose since it is a bit dark. All the girls have same price which I thought is kinda weird. Was able to take the 2nd hottest one back, but she has fake tits and rush.[/QUOTE]Peronsally, I never got overcharged on a bill there, never bought a bottle for them to keep for me, so I can't speak about that. Have heard those same stories Raverboy mentions though. I have gone there and been ignored, as have a couple others I know, especially when going solo or as just a pair of guys. This while dressed very well, clean cut, no reason for it based on how we presented ourselves. What was that 'same price' and how long ago? You know about the HBT places right? (91, 51, 49, etc.) If so, do you prefer VIC to those? And if so, why? I'm honestly curious to hear, because my own pref is for the HBT bars. It would be interesting to hear the case in favor of VIC.
VIC used to have a more local / small feel to it, not as many girls and very different attitude, friendlier, more laid back, also it was at another location not far from the present spot. First went there in summer 2003. They opened a 2nd one later down at the start of Le Thanh Ton for a short time, at the corner where Saigon Square is now. (no SS in those days, not there at least). When I went back to its latest version (current one) the vibe felt totally different, and that's when I started hearing the stories. Guys who'd gone there for years and loved that place turned against it. For awhile I kept recommending it to friends, especially new ones to town looking for something different, looking for what it claims to be. But I kept getting negative reviews of the place from one after another, then I went online and saw lots more bad reports about it there.
Apparently someone keeps going back though.
First post here from Philly 1. I'm staying in District 1 on Le Anh Xuan street and yes there are a couple of "reasonable" massage shops there. Well reasonable for D1 anyway. Make sure you get a private room on 3rd floor.
Questions for fellow punters. What is the "takeout" policy for hai son hotel? Any one know? Anyone used the outside service?
Also I know a while back one of our excellent colleagues posted a complete list of good HT's with addresses. I have searched and cannot find the list. Would one of you be so kind as to forward this or advise exactly where it may be viewed.
Any of you around HCM next week?
Just got back from a great hunting expedition in Phuket. Land of smiles. Both horizontal and shaved vertical.
Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1298918]Peronsally, I never got overcharged on a bill there, never bought a bottle for them to keep for me, so I can't speak about that. Have heard those same stories Raverboy mentions though. I have gone there and been ignored, as have a couple others I know, especially when going solo or as just a pair of guys. This while dressed very well, clean cut, no reason for it based on how we presented ourselves. What was that 'same price' and how long ago? You know about the HBT places right? (91, 51, 49, etc.) If so, do you prefer VIC to those? And if so, why? I'm honestly curious to hear, because my own pref is for the HBT bars. It would be interesting to hear the case in favor of VIC.
VIC used to have a more local / small feel to it....[/QUOTE]They did try to rip me off couple times. I don't have much whenever I'm there, so I just need something quick. But now that I've been reading some posts on here, I probably won't go back there. I think you have to be the VIP or reg to be treated nicer there. Or else you have to work a bit hard to show your money. Those sweet smiles are very evil. Agree. Hahahahaa.
I'm looking forward to go back and try those places you mentioned on HBT. Thanks for the reports guys.
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[QUOTE=Xohai; 1299948]They did try to rip me off couple times. I don't have much whenever I'm there, so I just need something quick. But now that I've been reading some posts on here, I probably won't go back there. I think you have to be the VIP or reg to be treated nicer there. Or else you have to work a bit hard to show your money. Those sweet smiles are very evil. Agree. Hahahahaa.
I'm looking forward to go back and try those places you mentioned on HBT. Thanks for the reports guys.
Best[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter at VIC if you're a regular, they will still rip you off. They have it down to an art. Actually, it might even work against you if you're a regular. You get too familiar and they will bite you when you least expect it. I learnt the hard way. I was going 2-3 times a week for a few months before all their tricks became more and more apparent and daring.
Trick #1: Unlike at other bars and clubs, they do not issue bottle cards for unfinished bottles of liquor. At most other places, the establishment would usually hand write the date, the type of liquor and the amount remaining (in %) on these little cards. I've bought a 750 ml bottle of JW before where on that day, finished say a quarter of it. On the next visit there would be 1/3 left. Bad move to pull this trick on an ex-bartender. Not many would notice the difference between 1/4 and 1/3 unless perhaps you visited your bottle everyday. A 750 ml bottle is approx. 25 ounces and should therefore pour approx. 25 standard 1-oz drinks. Difference between 1/4 and 1/3 = 1/12 = about 2 drinks, which they can charge approx. VND 180. 000 (USD 9) to another customer who orders only single drinks. Basically pouring from a paid bottle and charging another customer for liquor that has been paid for already. Double dipping.
Trick #2: You go with a group of friends and you're all drinking from the same bottle of liquor, some are mixing their drink with one type of mixer and others, another type. Some friends are drinking bottled beer. The girls are ordering lady drinks. At the end of the night, say you are charged 7 cokes. 5 sodas. 8 lady drinks and 11 bottles of beer. How are you absolutely certain you didn't actually only have 5 cokes. 4 sodas. 6 lady drinks and 9 beers instead? In this example, the difference in the two orders can amount to as much as VND 6-700. 000 or USD 30-35.
That's when I said enough's enough.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1300260]It doesn't matter at VIC if you're a regular, they will still rip you off. They have it down to an art. Actually, it might even work against you if you're a regular. You get too familiar and they will bite you when you least expect it. I learnt the hard way. I was going 2-3 times a week for a few months before all their tricks became more and more apparent and daring.
Trick #1: Unlike at other bars and clubs, they do not issue bottle cards for unfinished bottles of liquor. At most other places, the establishment would usually hand write the date, the type of liquor and the amount remaining (in %) on these little cards. I've bought a 750 ml bottle of JW before where on that day, finished say a quarter of it. On the next visit there would be 1/3 left. Bad move to pull this trick on an ex-bartender. Not many would notice the difference between 1/4 and 1/3 unless perhaps you visited your bottle everyday. A 750 ml bottle is approx. 25 ounces and should therefore pour approx. 25 standard 1-oz drinks. Difference between 1/4 and 1/3 = 1/12 = about 2 drinks, which they can charge approx. VND 180. 000 (USD 9) to another customer who orders only single drinks. Basically pouring from a paid bottle and charging another customer for liquor that has been paid for already. Double dipping.
Trick #2: You go with a group of friends and you're all drinking from the same bottle of liquor, some are mixing their drink with one type of mixer and others, another type. Some friends are drinking bottled beer. The girls are ordering lady drinks. At the end of the night, say you are charged 7 cokes. 5 sodas. 8 lady drinks and 11 bottles of beer. How are you absolutely certain you didn't actually only have 5 cokes. 4 sodas. 6 lady drinks and 9 beers instead? In this example, the difference in the two orders can amount to as much as VND 6-700. 000 or USD 30-35.
That's when I said enough's enough.[/QUOTE]Thats amazing. I've seen they tried to do that at some of the bar / clubs, or even at karaoke joins. Lessons learned, but thats the thing that bug me sometimes when I'm in vn. They bother to try to rip you off on little stuff, but ended up losing more biz and money. Just seem so silly and short sighted. And we don't enjoy the experience as much, it is like lose-lose situation.
Oh well, I'm looking forward to the trip and hopefully meet up w you reg and explore.
Happy July 4th if you are an american.
I had noted so many places to do when I was in Vietnam, but unfortunately I could not get rid of my family and had very little time. So I only managed Vien Dong x2 and Lido, both in PNL.
Vien Dong:
Both time with Tho #43. She is very cute and about 5'4 and from the rural part of west Vietnam. I told her I come from Northen Europe, she asked 'What is Europe, is it outside Vietnam'! And she didn't know if she has vietnamese citizenship or not. Hmm.
But her massage skill were superb! And even more important, her HJ skill is excellent. A lot of teasing before and massage of balls and nearby area. I asked her what she wanted in tip, and she said she never asked any price, it is up to the customer. I gave her 250 000 the first time and 300 000 the next. Thats why I revisited and asked for her.
The place was OK I guess. Nothing fancy or upscale as in Macau.
Lido:
The place is not as nice as Vien Dong. The girl I got wasnt as cute and her skill werent that good. She never told me her name and I didn't ever bother. Before the HJ, she asked for 500 000, I said my friend only pay 200 000. She went silent and started the HJ. When finish she handed over the tip slip and asked for 500 000 again. I said we agreed on 200 000. She complaint, but I said if were happy I would return. I didn't.
I had a foot massage as well, I gave the girl 100 000. She had strong hands and skill.
Additional info:
Tho told me that her mother wanted her to come home and get married, which would earn her family 30 mill VND. But she said that she earned that amount in a few months of working in Vien Dong. She also told me she liked foreigner (not black guys, cause they scare her, she will only give massage) and most overseas Vietnamese because they treat women with respect. She dislike the local Vietnamese men and foreigner men who live in VN because they are rude! What are you guys in VN doing? Rumors about massage girl must give the manager a massage before getting a job I true, at least for Vien Dong.
I'll be in Saigon next week. Is Vien Dong easy to find? Is it on a main road?
[QUOTE=Allover;1306590]I'll be in Saigon next week. Is Vien Dong easy to find? Is it on a main road?[/QUOTE][url=Http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vien+dong+hotel+hcmc+vietnam] Vien Dong Hotel[/url]
By the way I have an exact opposite experience there. Found a money milker. Believe it is hit and miss with the odds for a miss.
Where is the massage located in the hotel. Do you walk into the lobby or what? Not much experience in HCMC here, would appreciate the help so I don't look like a dumb ass.
Is this the easiest place to get a rub & tug in HCMC? Will be short on time and don't want to spend a lot of time running down leads.
Thanks!
Vien Dong is right on Pham Ngu Lao street opposite the park, a big hotel with a wide front. 275A Pham Ngu Lao street to be exact, heart of the backpacker district.
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293925-d456985-Reviews-Vien_Dong_Hotel-Ho_Chi_Minh_City.html[/url]
Go into the lobby. On the left side of the lobby are stairs, just go up one level and you'll be there.
Thanks a lot bro. Is this place better or worse than the hotel at 66 NTT in your opinion?
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1306766]Thanks a lot bro. Is this place better or worse than the hotel at 66 NTT in your opinion?[/QUOTE]You mean the hotel itself, the rooms? Or the massage? Never stayed at either hotel, and actually I'm not even familiar with the one you're talking about on Nguyen Thi Thap (?) (in D7?) I did the massage at Vien Dong just twice, and it was years ago. I hear it's one of the better ones here, but I'm not a massage guy so I can't really say how it stacks up, except that it does seem pretty nice and comfortable. And the hotel looks nice enough.
Others here know a lot more about massage and hotels.
I was talking about massage. I could care less about hotel rooms.
There was a review of a massage on the seventh floor of 66 Nguyen Thi Thap in District 7 a while back that basically described the set up like a Macau Sauna, with massage and HE all in for 200, 000 dong. The place at wasn't named, but AFAIK Saigon is the only hotel at that address.
Just trying to find the best / most convenient rub and tug joint in HCMC. Thanks for the help!
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1306805]Just trying to find the best / most convenient rub and tug joint in HCMC. Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]I guess convenience depends on where you're staying. Nguyen Thi Thap is not central, it's in D7. Most visitors stay in District 1, and the backpacker district is in District 1. From Ben Thanh market, it's less than 5 minutes drive to Vien Dong (by motorbike, and not stopping at red lights, which is standard here) while it's more like 15 minutes to Ng Thi Thap. Not that far really, if you think of it that way. But nobody wants to stay out there in that neighborhood. Maybe someone from here could go to both and compare. Would be interesting to hear how they stack up vs each other.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1306805]I was talking about massage. I could care less about hotel rooms.
There was a review of a massage on the seventh floor of 66 Nguyen Thi Thap in District 7 a while back that basically described the set up like a Macau Sauna, with massage and HE all in for 200, 000 dong. The place at wasn't named, but AFAIK Saigon is the only hotel at that address.
Just trying to find the best / most convenient rub and tug joint in HCMC. Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]I had good experiences at Vien Dong a few years ago. They may try to overcharge you but just tell them you know what the price is and stick to 100k or maybe you can go up to 200k. The massage itself is decent but that's not what you're going for. The girls have had have been pretty skilled and friendly, trying to make small talk even if you can't understand them. In terms of efficiency, the two times I've gone (weekend nights) , I've had to wait in the big waiting room for my name to be called. The wait was maybe 15 minutes.
Most visitors stay in District 1, and the backpacker district is in District 1.
I stayed in Dist 1, hotel Royal Lotus and went for massage to Saigon Hotel, which is walking distance. The massage is good there with extra service. The girl I had was good and was willing to please, but at the end, it is all money game. Negotiated 250000 dongs for "baby massage". I was in no mood for that. She said that BJ was possible but the price would be 500000 dongs. I went for it and it was amazing!
Cheers!
500000 all in?
Saigon at 66 Nguyen Thi Thap?
[QUOTE=Joyra; 1306905]Most visitors stay in District 1, and the backpacker district is in District 1.
I stayed in Dist 1, hotel Royal Lotus and went for massage to Saigon Hotel, which is walking distance. The massage is good there with extra service. The girl I had was good and was willing to please, but at the end, it is all money game. Negotiated 250000 dongs for "baby massage". I was in no mood for that. She said that BJ was possible but the price would be 500000 dongs. I went for it and it was amazing!
Cheers![/QUOTE]There seems to be some kind of disconnect here. If the Saigon Hotel you are talking about here is one that's located on Nguyen Thi Thap, then that street's in District 7 and not anything like walking distance from D1. It'd be nuts to walk there. You must be talking about another hotel with that name located in D1.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1306935]There seems to be some kind of disconnect here. If the Saigon Hotel you are talking about here is one that's located on Nguyen Thi Thap, then that street's in District 7 and not anything like walking distance from D1. It'd be nuts to walk there. You must be talking about another hotel with that name located in D1.[/QUOTE]The search function on the forum seems to be broken. Below is the original report I mentioned. The poster doesn't say the name of the hotel, but the only hotel I can find at 66 Nguyn Thi Thap is called "Saigon." He says it's in D4, but the location shows D7 on maps for me.
I don't know HCMC very well at all, so I'm totally guessing.
[quote]I have been exploring the forums and making a list of places to go. One of my favourite MP\'s that doesn\'t appear to get a mention is hotel on 66 NTT, opposite the port, in D4. The exterior and lobby is your standard single star Vietnam hotel. Take the lift up the 7th floor and you step into another world.
The facilities are first class, I have stayed in 5 star hotels which are worse. There is a steam room, sauna, hot pool and cold pool. There are regular showers and also a super shower which gives the effect of standing under a waterfall. Facilities are spotless, I even spend time in the pool, most pools I have seen in Vietnam tend have a film of grease matted with hair on top. Other nice items are soap in bottle, shampoo, disposable tooth brushes, hair gel, after shave etc. The attendants are helpful, cleaning shoes, offering water, and are not at all in your face.
After the level 7 experience, you get taken to level 6. Level 6 has several rows of reclining chairs, where you can have a drink, watch TV and a chat with the girls. I have not done this, as I head straight into the individual massage rooms. The rooms are spacious, clean, comfortable beds with an AC unit.
You don\'t get a line up girls, just one appears. Though you can request a girl by name / number. Girls are quality, friendly, most will try a bit of English. The massage is great, very professional, and they will use hot stones (or not if you don\'t want). HJ\'s are standard, I have not asked or been offered a BJ. Hands up the shirt and under the bra is fine and encouraged, however, hands under the panties is a no-no. I have never been asked mid massage here what the tip will be (on this point, I find the question an absolute mood breaker, when it comes up I use the phrase \"Anh vui, them Vui\", which means I\'m happy, your happy, translation could be completely wrong but message seems to get across).
Massage is always plus 1 hour, girls are relaxed, not rushed. As in all places, service seems to get better if you are bit of a regular.
I have not discussed FS option. Based on the panty reaction, would suggest that this would not happen in the room, however, I regularly get asked if I am staying in the hotel or in one close by, which seems to be a bit of cue for further questions.
Once finished, you are welcome to go back to the spa facilities.
Cost is 150, 000 for the room. Tip I generally give is between 150, 000 and 300, 000 (sorry, I now know the tip should not be greater than the room cost). I normally give the attendants 20, 000, which is about 20, 000 more than I normally give in other places. Once you see what they have to offer, you will see why.
The place is very popular with the Koreans, Japanese, Taiwanese. Not so many locals.
Overall a real consistent spot. The place is always immaculate, though fanny action and BJ\'s don\'t happen, girls have all been friendly and attractive. Not a place to be rushed in, you could quite easily spend a couple of hours in the spa facilities and reclining chairs (if it is your thing).
Hope you enjoyed the review and see you there![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1306965]The search function on the forum seems to be broken. Below is the original report I mentioned. The poster doesn't say the name of the hotel, but the only hotel I can find at 66 Nguyn Thi Thap is called "Saigon." He says it's in D4, but the location shows D7 on maps for me.
I don't know HCMC very well at all, so I'm totally guessing.[/QUOTE]OK I think maybe we went off track when I assumed NTT meant Nguyen Thi Thap, I wrongly assumed that because that's one street that's often mentioned in the forum here, so much that most people normally just refer to it by its initials. But that guy was talking about district 4, so he must mean the street called NGUYEN TAT THANH that runs along the port. So this place in the previous post you mentioned really is in D4, and not D7. His original post about this place didn't spell out the street name, just gave the abbreviation. Then in your post, I don't think you mentioned that it was in D4, so I assumed you were referring to the NTT in D7. I just looked at Google Maps to get the name of that street in D4, I knew there was a street running along the port there but didn't remember its name.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1307137]OK I think maybe we went off track when I assumed NTT meant Nguyen Thi Thap, I wrongly assumed that because that's one street that's often mentioned in the forum here, so much that most people normally just refer to it by its initials. But that guy was talking about district 4, so he must mean the street called NGUYEN TAT THANH that runs along the port. So this place in the previous post you mentioned really is in D4, and not D7. His original post about this place didn't spell out the street name, just gave the abbreviation. Then in your post, I don't think you mentioned that it was in D4, so I assumed you were referring to the NTT in D7. I just looked at Google Maps to get the name of that street in D4, I knew there was a street running along the port there but didn't remember its name.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the address that gave me Saigon Hotel. I wasn't sure about the district.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1307274]Yeah, that's the address that gave me Saigon Hotel. I wasn't sure about the district.[/QUOTE]According to the Internet, there is a Saigon Hotel in District 1 on Dong Du Street. That would be within easy walking distance for him.
The other night I went to 322 DBP around 11pm to give it a look, the old man out front was chillin, and waved me in. I asked how much he held up 2 fingers, so why not give it a shot. I got to pick the girl, got one about a 7 with nice tits, and firm ass. We go upstairs as per usal with other places, off the bat she said boom boom. 1 mil vnd, too much, and she would not bargain. So I just went for the CIM, which started out great cause she was nice and wet, sensitive nipples too. She was doing a great job, until I started to blow which she was trying to finish by hand, but I relaxed alitlle, and she went back to blowing, and then I blew, which pissed her off, plus she came all over my hand, she was starting to like the a-hole fingering. I might go back, saw some other decent looking girls there.
Hey guys, first of all. Thanks for all the great intel.
Question for you. Are there any good, high-end massage parlors near D1? I have been RTFF and haven't been able to ping down anything close to my hotel in D1. Can anyone recommend a place? Otherwise, are there any good high end, safe brothels in the D1 area? I am a bit of a timid monger.
Thanks in spades
Can anyone recommend few places I can visit for full service near Sheraton Saigon Hotel & Towers?
This is my first time mongering in Vietnam.
Thanks,
MM
[QUOTE=United1; 1330319]Hey guys, first of all. Thanks for all the great intel.
Question for you. Are there any good, high-end massage parlors near D1? I have been RTFF and haven't been able to ping down anything close to my hotel in D1. Can anyone recommend a place? Otherwise, are there any good high end, safe brothels in the D1 area? I am a bit of a timid monger.
Thanks in spades[/QUOTE]Sorry, but it's true. The answer to both of your questions is no and that's why you haven't seen anything in the Forum.
After getting a relaxing massage at the Hotel Spa, I headed to Vien Dong Hotel. I did not know where it was, I just asked the Taxi guy to take me there. At once he asked me "Massage". It was around 3. 30pm, it was so crowded. I opt out for the foot massage while waiting. I had to wait for almost 45 minutes till a girl and a room was available.
I was give girl # 69 can't remember her name; she spoke little English. Massage was good. She let me touch her wherever I want.
I wish I could have got more than HJ. I tipped her 400K. It was good. She was willing to give 2 times.
Later in the evening, I was not sure where to go, So I decided to check out 110 Dien Bien Phu. I got the brief from the forum, and hopped in to a Taxi.
Asked for 120K. I asked for 2 girl Special. Paid 24There were about 10 girls. Chose 2 girls and headed up.
While in the room, could not remove the clothes fully; It was my first time so I did not know.
I only ended up with BJ. It was really good. I tipped 100K each and left. I might go there again, I love their techniques,
Mates, first of all thanks you for the great intel. I loves this place!
I went to Vien Dong Hotel my first day in Saigon. Its a 3 star hotel that has a man spa on the 2nd floor. Its in the nicer part of town (District 1) just steps from the Backpacker district and a 5-10 walk from the main market (touristy one; forgot the name)
I thought the place was quite well run. You go through a process. First you steambath, then you get a table shower / exfoliation (by a guy, unfortunately; but its VERY nice). Then you go to a foot spa and then whirlpool. After you shower (and then expected to tip your host who walking you through all the stations) , you enter a theater room with reclining chairs. A guy comes around and offers you a foot / leg massage (I declined) , then you get summoned up to the massage room. There, a lovely massuse in a short top / shorts enters and gives you a great 45m to 1hour massage, with a nice HJ to finish. I personally thought the girls there were quite attractive.
As someone else said, I was bummed that I could do more with those girls.
Prices in dong.
200 for 1 hours massage.
100 tip for spa man who ushers you around.
300-400 tip for massage lady.
What a great place! I ended up going there 3 times in my trip!
[QUOTE=United1;1332840]. and a 5-10 walk from the main market (touristy one; forgot the name)[/QUOTE]I believe you are referring to the Ben Thanh market.
[QUOTE=United1; 1332840]200 for 1 hours massage.
100 tip for spa man who ushers you around.
300-400 tip for massage lady.
What a great place! I ended up going there 3 times in my trip![/QUOTE]For 700k you could have gotten laid. Still 100k tip for the guy who just stands there and asks you to go here, there, upstairs etc. That is the std tip for a massage. Glad you don't go to my local places. Think about it like this. 5 packets of cigarettes is what you tipped the guy, Would you give anyone that same amount in tips for just standing there waving their hands?
Why do people always need to over tip, Yeah sure its cheaper than back in your home country.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1333422]For 700k you could have gotten laid. Still 100k tip for the guy who just stands there and asks you to go here, there, upstairs etc. That is the std tip for a massage. Glad you don't go to my local places. Think about it like this. 5 packets of cigarettes is what you tipped the guy, Would you give anyone that same amount in tips for just standing there waving their hands?
Why do people always need to over tip, Yeah sure its cheaper than back in your home country.[/QUOTE]Well, since you posed a question. I was just going by what the forum told me to tip at Vien Dong (as you are probably one of those who will ask "Why don't people just read the F-ing forums")
Thanks for letting me know I could have gotten laid at another place. But given what I was looking for and my comfort level, I am happy with what I got. But really appreciate the note. Maybe if you had responded to my earlier request, I would have been able to frequent one of your local places. If that met my needs.
What should I have tipped him? 50K? So for an extra USD$2. 50, you feel the need to get all worked up? And yes, it is MUCH MUCH cheaper then my home country. If by one person (or make that two given the person who told me to tip 100K on this forum) has ruined mongering in Saigon for everyone. Then yes, I do apologies and happy to reimburse you for the additional USD$2. 50 you are now paying (oh wait, you don't go to this place. You have your own place which I you don't want me to go to!)
Anyway, clearly I have bother you to elicit your intiial response, so there is no need for me to get negative on this forum.
To others reading this. Honestly, is this type of unproductive response necessary? For USD$2. 50?
Either way, no need to reply.
[QUOTE=United1; 1333458]Well, since you posed a question. I was just going by what the forum told me to tip at Vien Dong (as you are probably one of those who will ask "Why don't people just read the F-ing forums")
Thanks for letting me know I could have gotten laid at another place. But given what I was looking for and my comfort level, I am happy with what I got. But really appreciate the note. Maybe if you had responded to my earlier request, I would have been able to frequent one of your local places. If that met my needs.
What should I have tipped him? 50K? So for an extra USD$2. 50, you feel the need to get all worked up? And yes, it is MUCH MUCH cheaper then my home country. If by one person (or make that two given the person who told me to tip 100K on this forum) has ruined mongering in Saigon for everyone. Then yes, I do apologies and happy to reimburse you for the additional USD$2. 50 you are now paying (oh wait, you don't go to this place. You have your own place which I you don't want me to go to!)
Anyway, clearly I have bother you to elicit your intiial response, so there is no need for me to get negative on this forum.
To others reading this. Honestly, is this type of unproductive response necessary? For USD$2. 50?
Either way, no need to reply.[/QUOTE]The price I would have paid and I have posted this information in the past BTW is 100-200max for a HJ I pay 100-150 and 10k for the usher so yeah thats a HUGE diff and if you had bothered to read the post and and ot asked questions that had previouslyly been answered maybe you would have known that even at VD a HJ would be 200k.
[QUOTE=United1;1333458]Well, since you posed a question.Either way, no need to reply.[/QUOTE]And this is one of the reasons why the regulars in the VN thread no longer bother to post their new findings, but share via PM, and why I don't post up any new info. Infact I hadn't posted up anything for months until I saw your report.
No need to get defensive or justify yourself for excessive tipping. You must have felt like a Viet Kieu with all that money hahaha.
Still, Tipping an attendant 100k is a bit much. Did he give you a bit of a tug while you were getting dressed? Make a comment about how "big" you are and grab his forearm and make a penis comparison motion?
If so, Then that is perfectly understandable. No doubt he would have been laughing at you for giving him such a large tip when in reality they do 4/5th of stuff all.
You are well within your rights of tipping whoever how much you want. Just hope you do the same to everyone.
Did you also tip the taxi driver 100k? The waitress at the cafe 100k also? The cleaners who make up your room each morning? I'd rather tip them 100k than some guy who looks at cocks and asses all day. You do know how much a waitress makes per month right?
As for me visiting a underperforming overpriced ripoff of a MP in the tourist trap again are slim to none.
Though I have been to several around D1, D3 and D7 but never tipped that much to the attendant.
Just remember what the average wage here is and you will work out how far out of proportion you were, But like you said, its your money. Feel free to throw it around.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1333589]And this is one of the reasons why the regulars in the VN thread no longer bother to post their new findings, but share via PM, and why I don't post up any new info. Infact I hadn't posted up anything for months until I saw your report.
No need to get defensive or justify yourself for excessive tipping. You must have felt like a Viet Kieu with all that money hahaha.
Still, Tipping an attendant 100k is a bit much.
Did you also tip the taxi driver 100k? The waitress at the cafe 100k also? The cleaners who make up your room each morning? I'd rather tip them 100k than some guy who looks at cocks and asses all day. You do know how much a waitress makes per month right?
As for me visiting a underperforming overpriced ripoff of a MP in the tourist trap again are slim to none.
Though I have been to several around D1, D3 and D7 but never tipped that much to the attendant.
Just remember what the average wage here is and you will work out how far out of proportion you were, But like you said, its your money. Feel free to throw it around.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with Mik completely. For those of us living here in Vietnam, it's not so much that we don't want to be generous to people like this, its more that we understand their mindset: rather than appreciating your tip or liking you for it, they simply think you are foolish or even stupid. A room maid or waitress as he describes above, is much more likely to genuinely appreciate it.
JD
I had a chance to stay in HCM for a day and had a great time there. In help of some articles here, I visited Benny's & Korean Barbershop.
I arrived at the airport at around 2pm. So I decided to go to Korean Barbership St. Directly. It was 20 minutes walk from the airport.
I can read Korean, so I've heard that kkokbat barbershop, jangmi, eunhangnamu etc. I looked around the area and I could find all of them. I saw really attractive girl in front of. Jangmi barbershop I guess. But I went to kkokbat cause someone recommended that one on the internet. But. The girls there are below average. I really regret the fact that I didn't take the girl at Jangmi.
The system was simple. One of the girls there took me in a room and normal bumbum. She was 5. 0 tall, has well-rounded boobs and some GFE. But face was below than what I expect. Old 20s I guess.
And I paid at the front, I cannot remember the exact amount though, it was fixed rate. And I could look the girls sitting near the doors and all of them were not my cup of tea. But I'm asian, so I don't know with westeners.
Before visiting Benny's, I traveled around HCM a bit by bike rent. Quite interesting and funny.
Benny's was easy to find but should communicate with the driver well.
The girl was pretty better than the Korean barbershop's one. She has big boob and 5. 3 in tall. But average face and late 20s. The BJ skills are good, you know BJ is only her job. After the first shot, she asked 'one more? ', then did second BJ.
I gave 200 tips. It is really worthy, isn't it? 320? In total and had 2 shots of BJ. I strongly recommend BJ places than Korean barbershop.
[QUOTE=Axma4;1334955]kkokbat barbershop, jangmi, eunhangnamu etc.[/QUOTE]Hey for those of us here who don't know Korean (I guess that's almost everyone here) could you please let us know what these names are in English or Vietnamese?
[QUOTE=Axma4; 1334955]The system was simple. One of the girls there took me in a room and normal bumbum.[/quote]Is this bumbum or bom bom, I know they are close together, but personally I like the love chute, closer to the little boy in the boat! If you get my drift.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1335411]Hey for those of us here who don't know Korean (I guess that's almost everyone here) could you please let us know what these names are in English or Vietnamese?[/QUOTE]Problem is they don't even have the name in Vietnamese so he would have to draw the Korean script.
Street names and house numbers would be good though.
Dear all,
Hopefully this post is useful to anybody. I have been to the familiar places mentioned before on this forum: Benny's, My Tien, Korean Town, Nguyen Phi Khanh. Context: I monger during the day as I have limited time and sometimes I have no transport available to me so prefer sticking to place which are close to my surroundings. I live near the airport. I am European and only know several sentences of Vietnamese.
Judgement on Benny's:/5.
As I value my privacy, I hate having to wait with others, even if its a select few occupying the barber shop style chairs near the cubicles. I was always guided in a straight line to the cubicles, never have I taken a left turn or was I guided to one of the cubicles there. I do not know if they are VIP, bigger or whatever but you can see them once you enter one of the other cubicles. The chairs are pretty comfortable but most of the cubicles are quite small. I think BJ is the standard in this place, do not think anybody only has a HJ in this place. BJ is CIM. Price is 300. 000 for me, I think you can get away with less but I really did not want to turn back after having gone there so I had an argument with some ***** in a really bad mood behind the counter but she refused to go down, told me to * off if I did not want to pay it. I think the split is 100 to the 'house' and 150 to the girl for regulars. Viet customers seem to pay 100. 100. Most of the girls do not allow you to touch them down below but if you play them well they will. Nearly all of them refused at first but I complimented them without being exaggerated and slowly they would let me go there. Them popping out their boobs is standard, at least it was for me. Service wise varied but they got the job done and did not whine about my tip except for one case who said she wanted to have children from me.
Judgement on My Tien:/5
This place looks really shabby compared to Benny's but its better in my opinion. Who gives a fuck about the guy next to you anyways. Upon entering you will be taken upstairs by some girl if you do not ask for a line-up. Barber style chairs are comfortable and girls let you touch and do more down below. Price was 350. 000 for me, I asked them why and they simply said you are a foreigner thus you pay more. Service was varied but that depends on what you want, same goes for Benny's. You prefer looks over BJ skills you get good looks with poor skills and the other way around. I went down on one girl and she gave me the best BJ I have had in my life and probably will ever have. She was the oldest around I think, in high 20's.
Side-note: I did mention in broken Vietnamese that I had paid 250. 000 before in both establishments, but they would not budge, even when I threatened with walking out. I really do not want to increase prices for others but I want my fun too. As mentioned in My Tien judgement, looks and services do not go together, its either looks or services judging from personal experience.
Korean Massage parlors / Barber shops on streets near the airport:/5.
This is obviously very dependent on where you crash so these places are really hit and miss. Mostly miss for me, real fuck bags as somebody described them earlier. You really have to pay attention to who's hot / horny for you and not who is up first in the Que'ing system. I missed out on one stunner that way and still regret it today (First time I had the courage to try one of these places, sigh). After having visited 3 different ones (more specific 2 on Giai Phong and 1 on Ba Vi) I have yet to find a good one.
Nguyen Phi Khanh:/5.
This street is risky for me as most people travelling from Vo Thi Sau to Hai Ba Trung will race trough Nguyen Phi Khanh as its a good shortcut. Be careful when driving here or you will get fucked up big time. Secondly, I do not like this street a lot as I mentioned I am a daytime mongerer and its easier to get exposed here then on Dien Bien Phu where heavy traffic provides cover. All these places look really shabby, worse than My Tien. Some places have stunners some places have people so ugly they should be paying people to have sex with them. So I guess safety wise this place is the worst as they probably get more locals. Service varies, just do not start a conversation with them and provide brief answers, do not be snide or rude, just answer briefly. Had one girl talk my ears off, I barely understood anything she said while I was supposed to get a BJ she tried to switch to a HJ and it hurt me because she stroke it like her life depended on it (she was not being service oriented, just being clueless).
Almost forgot this place. Tran Quang Khai, think it was no 150. Big sign saying Massage and some other things. For purely a massage, this place is the shit:/5. No FS, BJ / HJ offered but that depends on if she is willing to give one or not. Expect the charge to be high, I got her down to 300. 00 (She started with 1mil and would not go down until half an hour later she went to 500. 000). I went only once but this girl wanted to go to a hotel with me, problem is her working shift lasted from 1PM / 13:00 till 2AM / 02:00 and since I am a daytime mongerer only.
Right that is all I have experienced so far. A big thank you goes out to JD as he was kind enough to answer my stupid newbie questions after I had RTFT but not as much as I should have.
I was hoping to get some intel on FS Spa's as these places are most likely the ultimate places for a daytime mongerer such as myself, I also have serious doubts about the safety of getting a BJ at My Tien / Benny's or at NPK as so many locals come here. Again, I do not want to pay too much and up the prices but I would be willing to pay good money for non worker types who want to go to a mini hotel with me for some hours on the daytime. Most girls in the MP's and HT's just want to get you off and once it happened they are gone in a flash. I also cannot stand it when you are taken upstairs and they go down for nearly 10 minutes to get a towel and some water, do not forget to indicate to them to get the bloody towel and water first so they do not call their boyfriends / kids or have some chat downstairs with the other girls.
By the way, here is a typical newbie question: how do you explain to them that you want to pop more than once? If I try to tell them they pretend they do not get it.
[QUOTE=Towely;1336544]Dear all,[/QUOTE]Excellent report, great detail. The one problem is that the forum filtering software seems to have deleted your ratings out of 5.
[QUOTE=United1;1333458].What should I have tipped him? 50K? So for an extra USD$2. 50, you feel the need to get all worked up? And yes, it is MUCH MUCH cheaper then my home country. If by one person (or make that two given the person who told me to tip 100K on this forum) has ruined mongering in Saigon for everyone. Then yes, I do apologies and happy to reimburse you for the additional USD$2. 50 you are now paying (oh wait, you don't go to this place. You have your own place which I you don't want me to go to!).[/QUOTE]
I know its small money to any of us on this forum, but please allow me to put it in perspective for you.
That attendant doesn't make more than VND2,5M - VND3,0M salary a month. Your tip of VND 100.000 is equivalent to an entire day's wages for him. The Vietnamese are inherently not as 'proactive' and not as savvy about customer service as other more 'developed' places in Asia. The next time some foreigner goes to Vien Dong, the same attendant would expect him to be a similar unknowing foreigner and expect a similar tip, since he can make a whole day's wages out of a 'stupid foreigner' from that one tip. If not, he would either i. Not bother giving any level of customer service, or ii. Show some displeasure on his face which the customer ends up having to put up with, or iii. Give undue upsell pressure to the customer to tip him, when a tip should be purely voluntary.
No, you have not ruined mongering in Saigon for everyone, but you have perpetuated the problem with 'tipping' in this country. A tip should be a reward for service above and beyond what is expected. But you tipped the idiot his entire day's wages for doing what he was supposed to do, nothing more.
BTW, I don't go to that place either. At least you didn't pay VND 1M for a disinterested HJ, still cheap for many compared to their home countries!
[QUOTE=Raverboy;1336885]...At least you didn't pay VND 1M for a disinterested HJ, still cheap for many compared to their home countries![/QUOTE]Raverboy you are spot on.
I would have preferred that he had tipped 1 million because then they would have recognized the singled out idiot and probably not expect that to happen on a regular basis.
By the way, I still find sweet stunners even in tourist aereas of Saigon for 1 million LT. Sometimes they stay the whole next day for unlimited shots. But I won't disclose that anymore due to too many big shots with unlimited budget here. Spend your $$$ where you feel comfortable doing so.
I went in about three weeks ago and managed to get away with 120+100 but there was bad vibes about me paying that amount. It was my first time and I walked in the counter-lady said "Hi Cham" which I've written as it sounds not spelt (Hai Tram). This means 200. I looked quizzically and said Mot Cham Hi Moy (Mot tram hai muoi) and put 120 down. She kinda scowled at me and gestured for me to enter.
Girl did the deed and I walked out dropping another 100 on the counter. Ultimately these people are always going to be disappointed with western people paying local prices.
The disappointing thing here is I HATE being made to feel like I'm cheap when I know I'm paying fairly. Some people are fine with this feeling, I hate not buying a round or not getting a chance to buy someone a drink who has bought me one earlier in the night. The problems is that if even one in a hundred western visitors pays over or well over the odds then there is always a chance that this might happen again. This means the service providers are going to be disappointed when it doesn't happen. I bet you get people in there who will tip 500k who have been taken there by a moto driver and have no idea what the price should be. I think the problems mentioned on this forum are the tip of the iceberg, the people who report over paying on here despite having read the forum are not what we should worry about. It is the people who have never heard of the forum and might thing that 500 or 1 mill is amazing value for a BJ relative to their home country.
I think the solution to this is to go regularly to the same place, then people will know that you know the local price and will have no expectation that you are going to overpay like a noob. So expectations are met, then if you get incredible service and pay 50k extra it is understood and appreciated as it should be, not assumed that you are a stupid foreigner with too much dong.
The other solutions, as many senior members report, is to monger out of HCMC or out of D1 where the tourist footfall is low and expectations haven't been raised.
Sorry guys I did not know the forum would not accept asteriks and thank you for your positive comment Wendella.
Ratings:
Judgement on Benny's: 2, 5/5 (varied service, mostly disappointing though but it gets the job done)
Judgement on My Tien: 4/5 (provided you choose service over looks, had the best BJ of my life there)
Korean Massage parlors / Barber shops on streets near the airport: 2/5 (2 time I had somebody that coughed like she was literally dying, that just scares the shit out of me)
Nguyen Phi Khanh: 2/5 (safety wise probably not a good idea, dangerous traffic (people going more than 80 km / h) and lack of cover too due to many people taking this road as a shortcut)
Massage only with optional HJ / BJ (depends on you and how willing the girl is) , no FS. Tran Quang Khai 152:5/5 (The girl gave me a really good BJ, even though she looked great and cute, got lucky there).
Also was in a very good mood after because one of the locals told me I had a small cock, guess he was drunk or something. I heard the guy asking the girl I had later if I was small or big and she told him big and the look on his face after was priceless. I think he was almost going to cry or something.
I also went to a place on Dien Bien Phu a bit futher out then Benny's or My Thien, called Anh Dao. I had a girl called Duyen she was pretty nice but a newcomer and not very good looking, just average looking. She wanted to go to a hotel with me after so if that is your thing take her out. I thought I did not have the nicest girl because the mamasan looked really good but she might not be working. After coming downstairs I noticed that the rest looked like transsexuals from Thailand so I felt much better about having Duyen take me upstairs, haha. If somebody has the guts to take the mamasan upstairs she might just give you the BJ of your life. She has that attitude look but if you can charm her I think she will be amazing. I had a great BJ from a girl in Benny's who showed a lot of attitude in the beginning but once I softened her up she was fine with me going down on her and she performed well. So even if girls give you the attitude, go for them if you can handle it, I think some just put up a barrier to look strong in front of the others but once they are alone they melt in your arms like butter.
Anh Dao rating: 2/5 (the 2 stars purely for Duyen and my curiosity towards the mamasan, Duyen did well on the BJ too)
Next time I think I will check out the place behind Anh Dao, but forgot the name for now so can't provide intel on that.
By the way, I have asked this before: how can I negotiate for more pops, if some girl is really fantastic but looks like she wants to jump up to run out as soon as she is done how can I negotiate for more? Most of them pretend they do not understand me which is really frustrating.
Stay safe and enjoy your exploits,
Towely
Yesterday I was feeling curious so I arrange to meet a fellow vk and forumn member on NTB we chit chat about our experiences in vn and he asked where I normally go I said the K-town places and I said I pay 500+150. He told me because he vietnamese and looks it they demand 1. 2mill. Speaking of that made me curious so I did a complete tour of all the shops, there is currently quite a few lookers there but I stopped into one that I'd never been into and chose a young innocent looking one 22 yrs old firm be cups very smiley. Anyway one word. Fucks like a porn star. Deep throats telling me how tasty my dick is, grinds her pussy against my face, thrusts back when I fucking her and rubs her clit when I'm doing her doggy. It was like fucking a gf that is a porn star. Highly recommended. Then later that night I was feeling bored so I tried a hot toc near my place, saw a girl that I used before this girl has see cups, firm tits and ass. But the special thing about her is she cim, fucks your fingers whilst sucking you. Ie the grind and thrusts against your finger and she licks your anus. 200k total cost the actual cost is 60+tip. Again great value this shop is in LLQ
[QUOTE=Davepuppy; 1337097]I went in about three weeks ago and managed to get away with 120+100 but there was bad vibes about me paying that amount. It was my first time and I walked in the counter-lady said "Hi Cham" which I've written as it sounds not spelt (Hai Tram). This means 200. I looked quizzically and said Mot Cham Hi Moy (Mot tram hai muoi) and put 120 down. She kinda scowled at me and gestured for me to enter.
Hi all. Went to Ben Nys yesterday and can confirm the rate is VND 120K. I try to go once a fortnight and the routine is walk in confidently. Greet the person at the reception (usually a lady) with a confident sin chau (no idea what the spelling is but thats what it sounds like) and plonk down VND 120K. Do the deed, tip the girl directly 100. 200 depending on how happy I am and whether its once or twice and walk out thanking the person at reception. Am a foreigner who can speak a bit of Vietnamese so never had a problem.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1338564]Yesterday I was feeling curious so I arrange to meet a fellow vk and forumn member on NTB we chit chat about our experiences in vn and he asked where I normally go I said the K-town places and I said I pay 500+150. He told me because he vietnamese and looks it they demand 1. 2mill. Speaking of that made me curious so I did a complete tour of all the shops, there is currently quite a few lookers there but I stopped into one that I'd never been into and chose a young innocent looking one 22 yrs old firm be cups very smiley. Anyway one word. Fucks like a porn star. Deep throats telling me how tasty my dick is, grinds her pussy against my face, thrusts back when I fucking her and rubs her clit when I'm doing her doggy. It was like fucking a gf that is a porn star. Highly recommended. Then later that night I was feeling bored so I tried a hot toc near my place, saw a girl that I used before this girl has see cups, firm tits and ass. But the special thing about her is she cim, fucks your fingers whilst sucking you. Ie the grind and thrusts against your finger and she licks your anus. 200k total cost the actual cost is 60+tip. Again great value this shop is in LLQ[/QUOTE]What exactly is LLQ? Can you be more specific, name of the street? Dist?
[QUOTE=L L T0;1339000]What exactly is LLQ? Can you be more specific, name of the street? Dist?[/QUOTE]Lac Long Quan, District 11
I've heard there are quite a few in this area. Plan on checking it out soon.
Hey guys, let me introduce myself: I am a Vietnamerican living and working full time nowatHCM city for the last couple years.
I have some free time at night so I would like to offer a tour guide service.
Going with me you would get some great discounts or same prices compared with local residents:
I. E. : 4-5 star legit massages: luxury facility to help you "recover", happy ending with HJ, beautiful girls. Ticket is normally 250K 12. 5 USD. However, going with me you get discount, ticket is only $5. (not including tip, tip is from $5 to $20 up to you, however don't tip $5 since you will look like a monster. Trust me. These girls get tip $25 $30 easy all the times from overseas Vietnamese and wealthy locals. They are worth it since they are quite beautiful). By saying beautiful I mean 7-10/10, I would consider girls at dampy Blow and Go places like Benny, mytien as 3-6.
For example this place: [url]http://www.dainamhotel.com.vn/default.asp?lang=en[/url]
Or this : [url]http://www.firsthotel.com.vn/khachsan/english/index.php[/url]
Besides, I can take you guys to Korean town where you can go straight for A-Z service, ticket + tip would be 650K a pop, same price you see on the expat forums. W / o me you might risk being overcharged.
I can take you guys to the place where local people eat, or luxury but reasonable price restaurants.
I have membership at 5 star facilities so we can get discounts on the buffet, dining prices, for example:
Movenpick: [url]http://www.moevenpick-hotels.com/en/asia/vietnam/ho-chi-minh-city/hotel-saigon/overview[/url]
Sheraton [url]http://deals.sheraton.com/Sheraton-Saigon-Hotel-Ho-Chi-Minh-City-1449/so.htm[/url]
Etc.
All in all, you could save lots of money and have lotsa fun w / o wasting time here.
Problem is I am not a professional tour guide so I don't know how much I should chargeat, any recommendation would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
If you can't message me then just post below.
It's a great idea. The problem is the underlying service itself is so cheap, so even when people are over paying, it's not too much. As a result, your pricing would be extra difficult to figure out. I've seen tour guides in vietnam on other sites charging $5. $10 per hour. It doesn't apply here, because after you've done the negotiation, you can go and it's unlikely I would need you for the rest of the night.
Or you can also charge a flat fee like $20 (because I would pay $20 and not more) for a list of locations with addresses and instructions on pricing. This would mean preparation for a comprehensive list to sell to people like me, similar to map of the stars in hollywood. Or you can offer to do the negotiations and be there in person, and that would start at $50 for 2 to 3 locations.
Just an idea.
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1341294]Hey guys, let me introduce myself: I am a Vietnamerican living and working full time nowatHCM city for the last couple years.
I have some free time at night so I would like to offer a tour guide service.
Going with me you would get some great discounts or same prices compared with local residents:
I. E. : 4-5 star legit massages: luxury facility to help you "recover", happy ending with HJ, beautiful girls. Ticket is normally 250K 12. 5 USD. However, going with me you get discount, ticket is only $5. (not including tip, tip is from $5 to $20 up to you, however don't tip $5 since you will look like a monster. Trust me. These girls get tip $25 $30 easy all the times from overseas Vietnamese and wealthy locals. They are worth it since they are quite beautiful). By saying beautiful I mean 7-10/10, I would consider girls at dampy Blow and Go places like Benny, mytien as 3-6.
For example this place:
[url]http://www.dainamhotel.com.vn/default.asp?lang=en[/url]
Or this :
[url]http://www.firsthotel.com.vn/khachsan/english/index.php[/url]
Besides, I can take you guys to Korean town where you can go straight for A-Z service, ticket + tip would be 650K a pop, same price you see on the expat forums. W / o me you might risk being overcharged.
I can take you guys to the place where local people eat, or luxury but reasonable price restaurants.
I have membership at 5 star facilities so we can get discounts on the buffet, dining prices, for example:
Movenpick:
[url]http://www.moevenpick-hotels.com/en/asia/vietnam/ho-chi-minh-city/hotel-saigon/overview[/url]
Sheraton.
[url]http://deals.sheraton.com/Sheraton-Saigon-Hotel-Ho-Chi-Minh-City-1449/so.htm[/url]
Etc.
All in all, you could save lots of money and have lotsa fun w / o wasting time here.
Problem is I am not a professional tour guide so I don't know how much I should chargeat, any recommendation would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
If you can't message me then just post below.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TenSamurais; 1341766]It's a great idea. The problem is the underlying service itself is so cheap, so even when people are over paying, it's not too much. As a result, your pricing would be extra difficult to figure out. I've seen tour guides in vietnam on other sites charging $5. $10 per hour. It doesn't apply here, because after you've done the negotiation, you can go and it's unlikely I would need you for the rest of the night.
Or you can also charge a flat fee like $20 (because I would pay $20 and not more) for a list of locations with addresses and instructions on pricing. This would mean preparation for a comprehensive list to sell to people like me, similar to map of the stars in hollywood. Or you can offer to do the negotiations and be there in person, and that would start at $50 for 2 to 3 locations.
Just an idea.[/QUOTE]Is that really such a good idea?
Taking peoples reports and using them to make money.
There was a Singaporean guy who did that before, He would take info from these forums and sell them. He also offered to take people on tours and more. Needless to say he was not welcome to this and the other forums.
I wonder how many more reports will not make it to these public pages. If I found a fantastic place, posted it up for everyone to read about and visit, then for a forum member to turn around, take my info and charge people for it, I'd be certainly rethinking if posting up reports on new places are going to be worth it.
Instead of paying $20 how about posting a few reports, then PM a senior member for info?
All the info is out there in the pages of these forums. If you are too lazy to read up then I guess a fool and his money will easily be parted.
[quote=mik hcmc; 1341973]is that really such a good idea?
taking peoples reports and using them to make money.
there was a singaporean guy who did that before, he would take info from these forums and sell them. he also offered to take people on tours and more. needless to say he was not welcome to this and the other forums.
i wonder how many more reports will not make it to these public pages. if i found a fantastic place, posted it up for everyone to read about and visit, then for a forum member to turn around, take my info and charge people for it, i'd be certainly rethinking if posting up reports on new places are going to be worth it.
instead of paying $20 how about posting a few reports, then pm a senior member for info?
all the info is out there in the pages of these forums. if you are too lazy to read up then i guess a fool and his money will easily be parted.[/quote]well, maybe you misunderstood here. i am sorry if i made a mistake. i am not talking about blow and go places which are too obvious all over the forum. i myself don't go to those places. sure they are cheap and affordable, they would be reasonable for backpackers. i just simply don't go to those places for various reasons including my own health and safety.
i bought membershipsatlegit and luxury places, all 4-5 stars hotels so you see, it costs me over $1000 / year and it would all go to waste if it can't be used frequently.
a buffet dinner ticket would be minimum $50, with membership you get 50% discount. same with massage, bar, menu dishes etc. discounts are from 20-50. that means huge saving. now you tell me anyone anywhere can give you that benefit? please be a gentleman with your speech.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1341973]Is that really such a good idea?
Taking peoples reports and using them to make money.
There was a Singaporean guy who did that before, He would take info from these forums and sell them. He also offered to take people on tours and more. Needless to say he was not welcome to this and the other forums.
I wonder how many more reports will not make it to these public pages. If I found a fantastic place, posted it up for everyone to read about and visit, then for a forum member to turn around, take my info and charge people for it, I'd be certainly rethinking if posting up reports on new places are going to be worth it.
Instead of paying $20 how about posting a few reports, then PM a senior member for info?
All the info is out there in the pages of these forums. If you are too lazy to read up then I guess a fool and his money will easily be parted.[/QUOTE]Yo, you misunderstood me dude, if I made a mistake I am sorry.
For sure you are right, if you go to BnG places with cost like 200 300K, it would be unnecessary to have a guide, reading would be more than enough. Even the "maps" do exist, I think I saw them somewhere in the forum.
What I offer here is unique, I bought memberships from legit luxurious 4-5 star facilities. Which cost me over $1000 USD / year. However the saving is great. 20-50% discounts on massages, buffets, menu dishes, bar drinks etc. If you consider just 1 ticket buffetatthose places would cost minimum $50, 50% discount would save you $25 already, massage tickets $12-$20 would be $5-6. Now this is huge saving if those memberships could be used frequently, and that's what I am trying to do here. Discounts apply to the card owner + his group.
So please read carefully before you comment dude. If you can point out I am selling any "secret info" of yours then I would be honored to offer you x10 refundsat.
Ah, membership comes with discount on room booking internationally as well. But it is for card owner only so.
Again, I am not sure if this is the right place to offer something like this. Once again I am sorry if somehow I offended anyone.
Take care.
If one was to a simple search of our esteemed colleague you would find out the following things.
1. He has used the handle xuperxtar and bigbadboo with contact details of c0ntr4i5aigon and loveissex83.
2. He claims to be young and still making good money at a prestigious event organising company in Vn whose clients include many foriegn embassies.
3. He is married and lives with relatives inn Tan Binh. A rich successful married man living with relatives?
4. He is a Viet Kieu, but once in a massage parlour her negotiated a HJ via texting into a phone? Seems that his vietnamese is quite poor.
5. He has been requesting information on vietbased sex websites without any success.
6. This is the third time he has offered his services, once because he is shy to go alone and needs company, second the payment was a gift from outside for his wife, now finally requests for negotiable cash payments. Seems not matching his claims of making good money.
7. He has inthe past agreed to meet HCM Mik and khikhong to go as a group to these shop but as yet regneged on his offerers.
8. I have personally contacted him and found him to be both rude and unhelpful.
9. His earliest posts were about Benny and now non operationg saloons in Su van hanh. And only after finding out information in this forumn is he now a customer of K town which is one oif his selling points.
10. I'll be honest I'm not a frequent customer of the massage places he has mentioned but I have never heard of some 1000 dollar membership. I have heard of like buy 10 visits for a discount.
So fellow members taking this gentleman on his word is like finding gold in a WL vagina. It could happens but.
"Even the "maps" do exist, I think I saw them somewhere in the forum."
Does anyone know the link for the map or at which page is it. I can not find it. That's surley lost in one of the reports.
Thanks in advance.
Don't agree with what Xuper is doing but just to chime in. Many high end places offer membership for a fee to get discounts on services and such. Its actually great savings even if you use it sparingly and would pay for itself easily if you use these establishments often. I know some that cost 500 but yet to hear of any place charging a thousand but it wouldn't surprise me.
People can easily make their own judgment on Xuper based on his responses so far if you ask me.
I really don't know why people are trying to make money off other members. I thought the whole point of ISG is about sharing.
Last Saturday I decide to go an visit some of the bars at Hai Ba Trung in Dist. 1 the ones that are between Nguyen Sieu and Cong Truong Me Linh. You can find at least 5 bars in that small part of HBT. It was at least 1 year I have not gone there. So we started as usual picking up a girl, if you don't want to end with what ever girl is on the "next line" tell them you want to choose the girl you want to spend time with. We decide to go light with a regular beer, and of course the girl ask you to buy her their usual "cocktail". After just 5 minutes the girl which was a 7/10 start asking us to go to the hotel explaining us how it work now a days, which is 2, 300, 000 VND for overnight in your hotel. 1,800, 000 VND for a 1-2 hour (1pop) in your hotel or if you don't want to go outside 800, 000 BBBJ upstairs. I am very surprised how prices have gone up in the last year, at 33% more. Even try to get them go down will onlly result in a 100, 000 VND discount, because we are "old friends". Once being there and spending some time with the girls, suddenly the mama-san start distributing coats to all the girls, saying police was doing check-ups to the bar on the side, so they have to cover up there nice skinny outfit they have. We decide then to leave the place, as they got very nervous. We went out and got into another of the bars there, because the guy at the door said "No police in my bar", but 20 minutes later, same thing happened, and so on all night, we visit 4 bars that night, and same thing happened. One of them we were there only for 2 minutes, as girls were a 2/10. So after that we decide to let the night go.
Mutantchicken,
I have helped a few guys out for free in the past, they are such a pain in the ass. Too scared to ride a scooter, can't fucken follow adresses. So ud be having to make it worth the pain without upping then price too much maybe 10 bucks. And then is it really worth it when you can just teach english for like 20 bucks an hour. Basically mongers are cheap asses they want to just get adresses and do it themselves thinking they can negotiate themselves. If anything this will just mess up the economics for the locals here, so I been keeping information secret myself.
Me: shit, I was thinking the same thing tooat_@. However, it is boring sometimes when I go alone, plus I get membershipsatplaces that can be much more cost-saving if I go with another guy.
Thank you tho for the warning and the suggestion.
Mutant: well if you want hit me up [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] we can grab acoffee and exchange intel stories.
Me: I am really busy so I haven't been to any coffee shop in the last 2 years, no alcohol or beer either because I need to stay sober all the time. I am still young and making good money so those are the prices I must bear I guess =. =.
I live in Tan Binh if you live nearby we can say hello sometimes.
Mutant: if you ahve [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Me: No I don't use yahoo, my email is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
The original conversation BTW mr "lawyer" Mutant and me. Copy and paste.
Dude? You said I have been rude to you when you tried to contact me? Can you point out anything that I offended you here? I tried to google your yahoo nickname and you know what, you claim to be a lawyer but look at your languageat. And as far as google showed, you did try 13 times to ask for girls sharing on hags over 35 why. O with prices like 150K-200K $7-10 a shootat. Jesus dude, even if they give me huge money, I won't ever touch those girls. Don't even deny it is not you because the nickname is the same and yahoo is the same ahuynh_au. So all in all, for a "lawyer" like you and you never know about luxury membership cards 5 star-facilityat. Those cards could be used around the world. And of course they don't offer them to a guy who tries to go after old hags $7 a shootat.
So to be simple, try to google movenpick, sheraton membership.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1338564]Yesterday I was feeling curious so I arrange to meet a fellow vk and forumn member on NTB we chit chat about our experiences in vn and he asked where I normally go I said the K-town places and I said I pay 500+150. He told me because he vietnamese and looks it they demand 1. 2mill. Speaking of that made me curious so I did a complete tour of all the shops, there is currently quite a few lookers there but I stopped into one that I'd never been into and chose a young innocent looking one 22 yrs old firm be cups very smiley. Anyway one word. Fucks like a porn star. Deep throats telling me how tasty my dick is, grinds her pussy against my face, thrusts back when I fucking her and rubs her clit when I'm doing her doggy. It was like fucking a gf that is a porn star. Highly recommended. Then later that night I was feeling bored so I tried a hot toc near my place, saw a girl that I used before this girl has see cups, firm tits and ass. But the special thing about her is she cim, fucks your fingers whilst sucking you. Ie the grind and thrusts against your finger and she licks your anus. 200k total cost the actual cost is 60+tip. Again great value this shop is in LLQ[/QUOTE]Is it possible for you to tell about the address or the area you have been for such a good fuck as you are telling above?
Thanks
XuperXtar,
"Man, I was surprised when you made a personal attack when I did nothing to you. But just like you suggested, I tried to google your name just once and realized the whole reason. A "lawyer" LOL, I was laughing so hard dude, was begging for contacts of old hags worth of a few bucks =. =. I am stunned, man. Get urself a life. You are at most a filthy, jobless, poor and living-on-welfare "32 year old kid". Gosh I can't even imagine what a life you must have right nowat. I have nothing but pity on you. Good luck to you big kid."
Looking at your post and your Pm to me its obvious that you are quite upset, did I break your rice bowl? And its easy to be a keyboard warrior, you have my contact details and I'm waiting for your call so we can show our cards ill have my bank statements and qualifications available for you. I have personally met many guys on this forum and a few others and I'm sure they can attest to the fact that I'm not a filthy jobless (added superfluous adjectives) poor and living.on-welfare "32 yr old kid. How many people can support your claims. None I believe and really its quite damning that you need to "defend" your case by saying you have a measly 50k in your checking account. Like I said you have my details lets meet and stop being a keyboard warrior.
And whats with your english, discounting typo's and grammatical laziness what the hell is shootat, and languageat.
And finally let me address one further matter, inregards to my requests for hads over 35. The point is tehse are called maybay in vietnamese and I have a curious mind so I was curious as to see what these women offer that makes them so saught after apart from the cheap price, just because I seek there details doesn't mean I need to go from A-Z. Secondly its a strategic ploy to develop a rapport with guys on the veit website, after a few exchanges I can then move on the the VIP girls. These hags are readily exchanged cf to the VIP girls so of course its easier to develop a rapport with the guys. Obviously your not a thinker thats why you never got anywhere on the other and this forum.
But to continue on a fresh note, today I visited a newly opened massage place, they offering a promo with free entry, only need to tip the girls. I got a BJ for 200k from a 20yr old girls thats prob a 7 on looks on par with cute girls at benny etc etc. If I was had 50k in my checking account maybe if waste 600k gettinga HJ from a primadonna then going online trying to onsell my membership. But since I'm poor jobless and filthy ill make do
I've been to VN before and I'm Viet kieu. Fluent in Vietnamese. Not going to lie to you, VN intimidates me. I've been to many other countries as well.
Perhaps it's just me who's willing to pay for a local "expert" for quality at reasonable prices, especially if I don't have to time to "learn" for myself.
I don't know if other members are holding back on their best reports and my suggestion is in no way of encouraging such behavior. This is a great community of sharing, no doubt.
[QUOTE=TenSamurais; 1342850]Perhaps it's just me who's willing to pay for a local "expert" for quality at reasonable prices, especially if I don't have to time to "learn" for myself.
I don't know if other members are holding back on their best reports and my suggestion is in no way of encouraging such behavior. This is a great community of sharing, no doubt.[/QUOTE]Have you tried PM'ing other members and meeting up with them?
Perhaps ask them if they want to show you around if they have spare time?
In the other countries forums many people meet up and have face to face conversations. Just weird that the VN one, people are seemingly too scared to meet up or perhaps they are too ashamed?
[QUOTE=XuperXtar; 1342540]. Mutantchicken: I have helped a few guys out for free in the past, they are such a pain in the ass. Too scared to ride a scooter, can't fucken follow adresses. By the way, if you somehow manage to have more than $50 grands in your checking account, I am sure you would start to know what luxury offers are. I wish you luck.
Last reply to you since I won't waste time with such a bad liar.[/QUOTE]Having met up with MC in the past, my impression of MC is that he does his research and doesn't waste his $. He Looks at what's out there and makes an educated decision based on his research.
He told me about himself and what he does and if he was like you said a "big kid" then he would not be able to support himself for this long and indulge in his hobbies. So yes, MC is good at what he does.
MC doesn't boast about how much money he has / had / hasn't got or shows off his actual or perceived wealth. He is infact a modest down to earth guy, and a good one who will help you out, providing you make the effort. Unlike the "typical" American VK (stereotyping now) we tend to see and hear about throwing his / her money around, being loud and obnoxious.
MC also doesn't need anyone to jump in and bat for him either as he more than capable in looking after himself, However XuperXtar you seem to be rubbing people up the wrong way on this forum. There is already limited information publicly available on this forum and a whole lot more via PM's of course.
If people start taking the information (posted up here in good faith by the way) , Start charging people for it then would you bother to post up?
As it stands, the VN forum is pretty dead compared to others, Yes VN is different and you can't compare it with its neighbouring countries, But even so there is much banter happening, Unlike this one. This forum needs more action, The good thing about what you were offering has actually put a little spark back into this once dead forum.
If you need people to join you to make these memberships feasible then perhaps you can't really afford to purchase them in the first place? To me $1k to spend simply to get a discount at a hotel is a waste of $. How often will you need to go there to make that $1000 back in discounts? Better off meeting the resturant and hotel managers and getting a discount that way. I have friends who own bars, cafes here who do the same. 15% discounts off the bill everytime they eat and drink.
What's wrong with taking your relatives to dinner? I'm sure they won't mind the experience.
Maybe you have to start to question your real motives in buying these memberships. Are you trying to show off and impress upon others how much money you have? Need a lift in status?
If you want to find people to share then I'd probably be advertising the membership offers on a more suitable forum where your target audience will more likely found, Not a sex mongering website.
Totally OT.
Has anyone been or been invited to the "pool parties" usually held in D2?
The no cameras, phone, ipad / tablet ones where the guys and girls get drunk and fuck eachothers brains out?
[quote=xuperxtar; 1342030]well, maybe you misunderstood here.
i bought membershipsatlegit and luxury places, all 4-5 stars hotels so you see, it costs me over $1000 / year and it would all go to waste if it can't be used frequently. a buffet dinner ticket would be minimum $50, with membership you get 50% discount. same with massage, bar, menu dishes etc. discounts are from 20-50. that means huge saving. now you tell me anyone anywhere can give you that benefit? please be a gentleman with your speech.[/quote]if you can't understand that those discounts are just gimmicks to direct you to the membership, well. good luck in life!
don't value the discount, but value if the gross price is worth what you get. more often the discounted price is not even worth.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1343051]If you can't understand that those discounts are just gimmicks to direct you to the membership, well. Good luck in life!
Don't value the discount, but value if the gross price is worth what you get. More often the discounted price is not even worth.[/QUOTE]Man, I absolutely agree with you. The savings seem to be huge since I can save about $50 bucks each time, but then I couldn't find time to use them. However, it was hard on the spot when a hot chick approached and offered those memberships to you, it would be hard to turn them down.
About "mr" MC, I don't want to disrespect anyone, but just a simple google search proves so many things about him.
You posted lies about me ditching mr milky when he was the one busy and couldn't make it? I still keep the private message stating he needed to catch a plane? So can milky confirm on that?
And what did you learn something like these from? :
3. He is married and lives with relatives inn Tan Binh. A rich successful married man living with relatives?
4. He is a Viet Kieu, but once in a massage parlour her negotiated a HJ via texting into a phone? Seems that his vietnamese is quite poor.
5. He has been requesting information on vietbased sex websites without any success.
You never met me and you were spitting out stuff like you are my closest friend.
And the line that pissed me off was this:
8. I have personally contacted him and found him to be both rude and unhelpful.
I re-read every message, I did even copy paste so you can re-check with your eyes. I spared my precious time to answer any concerns you have, I am quite sure my messages were clear, simple, and friendly. So what make you say I was RUDE AND UNHELPFUL?
I was very confused why a stranger made a post like this with such lies and anger towards someone he never met. So, I did a google search and it turned out you have quite interesting hobbies: begging for 7 dollar old hags so yea. I was like "WAH.". The fact that I am making good money offended you? Man, I couldn't think of any other reasons.
Could you please explain it to me why you said I was RUDE AND UNHELPFUL?
Dear Admin, I didn't mean any offense but like you can see, a forum member aka mutantchicken COPY + PASTE my contact details FIRST so I did the same thing. However, my post was edited and I get warns while his post remained intact.
to mr milk hcmc,
"if you want to find people to share then i'd probably be advertising the membership offers on a more suitable forum where your target audience will more likely found, not a sex mongering website."
i made a single post asking for opinions on my offer. and i agree that i made a wrong choice for posting it here. however, it isn't a reason for $#$#$# like "lawyer" mutant to spit out complete lies and disrespect me.
man, the facts that he rates benny girls over 7/10 and he begs for 7 dollar hags make me speechless. i welcome constructive criticism like the one above, not groundless accuses.
Sry admin, you did delete mutant's post. I didn't realize it so I thought it was unfair when I was the only one getting warnings, I guess it was the same to him.
One more time, my apologies for postingatwrong forum. These are some chicks I had before, cute but big breasts.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1342986]Have you tried PM'ing other members and meeting up with them?
Perhaps ask them if they want to show you around if they have spare time?
In the other countries forums many people meet up and have face to face conversations. Just weird that the VN one, people are seemingly too scared to meet up or perhaps they are too ashamed?[/QUOTE]Hello, I'd like to meet foreigners to practice english and go around to meet beautiful gilrs in beauty salon. I work for a financial company but the economy is bad so I want to relieve my sorrow by massage. There's a vietnamese forum for local play boy and I read that forum everyday to get more information about beauty salons, massage palour.
I often go to beauty salons which have HJ BJ once or twice / week so I think I can be an expert about this field.
You shouldn't go to Benny or any beauty salon like that because it's too dirty and cheap even for a vietnamese with salary about 500usd / month like me.