FKK Dietzenbach

A former Red Carpet club previously reported on in the "Other FKK Clubs" thread.

Voltastr. 4.
63128 Dietzenbach.
Gewerbegebiet Mitte-Süthe.

Tel. Info: 06074-47360 / Büro: 06074-824134.

Opening Hours: 10:00 - 02:00 daily.
Pricing: Entry - €30/1 session - €40, 2 sessions - €70, 3 sessions - €90.

[url]http://www.fkk30.com[/url]

FKK Dietzenbach Questions.

Was this the post you referred to?

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.81#post1270181[/url]

Is there any food at club? Robes? Shoes? Smoking okay? How far from Dietzenbach bahnhof?

Thanks for reports.

Rick

How far away is the club from train station? It's a 5 min. Walk. Very easy to find, 'cause it's only one long street to walk.

Food in the club? Nope. Eat before. Thats my tip for you. There are only not tasty sandwiches with cheese or ham.

Shoes and robe? In the club you wear the "Hessendress", thats a towel at your hips. Shoes like in a normal fkk club are there.

LineUp? Pretty good right now. Ca. 15 to 20 girls mostly from Bulgaria and Romania. But some milfs from germany and russia, too.

Remember Cola light. It's NOT an FKK-club, it's a RTC! You have to pay your number of rooms BEFORE you get to the locker room.

Greets from nasty Germany.

[QUOTE=Diet Coke; 1327031]Was this the post you referred to?

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.81#post1270181[/url][/QUOTE]Yes. Correct link is:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1100-Other-FKK-Clubs&p=1270181#post1270181[/url]

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1327031]Is there any food at club? Robes? Shoes? Smoking okay? How far from Dietzenbach bahnhof?[/QUOTE]Basic food: Sandwiches, cake, sausage, soup. Free self-service drinks from a machine. Maybe some other stuff at the bar. I'm always nude (hey, it's an FKK club!) so I don't know about robes or shoes. Unfortunately, smoking is allowed. About 1 km from the train station. (When I was there 10 years ago, I walked from and to the train station,

[QUOTE=Paco69;1327125]Remember Cola light. It's NOT an FKK-club, it's a RTC! You have to pay your number of rooms BEFORE you get to the locker room.[/QUOTE]RTC? Do you mean RCC (red-carpet club)? Or something else?

Yes, one has to say when one arrives 1, 2 or 3 times. One can pay the fees then in addition to the entry, or one can pay just the entry and then pay the fees to the girls. If one pays at the beginning, after the session the girl comes to the bar to sign your card and collects EUR 30 (doesn't matter if she was first, second or third) from the Thekenfrau. I actually like paying for three sessions in advance, since I then don't have the choice of keeping money with me or going back to the lockers to get it.

Interesting. Are there other clubs like this around FRA?

Paying for 3 girls seems to be the best option but what happens if you prepay for only 1 girl and want more?

[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1327690]Interesting. Are there other clubs like this around FRA?

Paying for 3 girls seems to be the best option but what happens if you prepay for only 1 girl and want more?[/QUOTE]There's no other clubs like that in FFM. If you prepaid for 1 girl only and want another girl, you pay her directly. 30 EUR per session.

HB

I'm definitely going to check this place out.

I guess I'll pay entry and 1 girl, see the talent, and pay 30 euro directly to the girl as I go (only saving 10 euro if I commit to 3 girls up front).

How is the quality of the girls, I mean you paid 30€/30min that is a great deal if the girls are FKK material.

If they are PT material then the deal is less attractive to me. Then I rather pay 50€/session at the Hessen3 clubs.

I guess the girls from the former Red Carpet club, still continue working in the new setup?

NC

[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1327736]I'm definitely going to check this place out.

I guess I'll pay entry and 1 girl, see the talent, and pay 30 euro directly to the girl as I go (only saving 10 euro if I commit to 3 girls up front).[/QUOTE]Sounds good. However, when you come in you can have a brief look around to see who is there; then you might opt for 3 and save EUR 10.

Note that if you want more than 3, you also pay the girl directly. I think the girls always get 30. If you opt for 1 or 2, there is an extra 10 Euros, which probably goes to the house. If you go for 3, then it is 30 per girl on average (and they all get 30; it's not like the first gets 40 and the last gets 20). The advantage of paying up front is that one doesn't have to get out one's money from the safe (or carry it around). (The small safes across from the bar make this a bit easier than going back to the locker, though.)

If you pay up front, then you can't go with the same girl more than once. If you want the same girl more than once, you have to pay her directly and this isn't deducted from what you paid up front. I think this is basically to increase each girl's chances, which is a bummer if one ends up with one who is not so good but most are probably good. Certainly the last 2 visits the first girl I had was so good that I would have been tempted to stick with her for the whole day. However, I'm glad I met others as well.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1327739]How is the quality of the girls, I mean you paid 30€/30min that is a great deal if the girls are FKK material.[/QUOTE]I have never been to another FKK club (but have considerable Partytreff experience and also a bit of experience in the RLD and with swinger clubs and also very much with erotic massages, which sometimes include more). However, it is absolutely unthinkable that anything for EUR 50 for 30 minutes at the more upscale clubs can be better than Ina, Sonia, Milena or Sylvie. Especially my last session with Ina a couple of days ago was really, really good. Probably the closest to a girlfriend experience I have ever had. (OK, Ute at Mettmann is better, but my remark still holds since no girlfriend can be as good as Ute!) DFK, DATY until she comes, my tongue in her arse, great ball-licking and BBBJ, great fuck, great massage, great cuddling. She was also my type, I. E. Not much if any jewellery or makeup. The girl next door. (OK, I like a bit more T&A, but she had enough and more than anyone else there except that Sonia had bigger tits (but she has a small arse). She doesn't do any extras, but that which she does do (which is all I am willing to pay for if I have to pay per session; there are flatrate Partytreffs with wonderful girls where I can get BBBJCIMWS, anal, her tongue in my arse etc) she does absolutely wonderfully.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1327739]If they are PT material then the deal is less attractive to me. Then I rather pay 50€/session at the Hessen3 clubs.[/QUOTE]YMMV, but I have had great experiences at Partytreffs, particularly at Mettmann. Maybe on average Partytreff is more hit and miss, but it is certainly possible to have an expensive bummer session at an FKK club and to have a wonderful session at a Partytreff, even with a beautiful girl.

This leads to the question why Mainhattan, Palace etc cost more. One reason is location. Dietzenbach is out of the way, so rent is cheaper, and also the facilities are not as good. (While good facilities are nice, they aren't worth it for the price. Why not go to a spa before or after for good sauna, whirlpool etc and go out to eat before or after for good food? Great facilities only make sense if one stays all day, but that would be too expensive for me, except at a Partytreff (some of which have good facilities).) I don't know if the girls keep all the money. Maybe at Dietzenbach they do. At the other places? Just because one pays an entrance fee doesn't mean that the girls don't have to pay rent for the rooms or whatever. Maybe they pay more at the more expensive places, so the money per girl per session which the girls keep might not be that different. The upscale places probably have more one-time customers, and maybe they are more attractive to girls who want quick money, usually without a good session.

Fazit: Give Dietzenbach a try. Follow the recommendations from me and other punters regarding the girls. You can ring to see who is there when and there are pictures at the bar so you can put names to faces (or whatever body parts you choose).

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1327739]I guess the girls from the former Red Carpet club, still continue working in the new setup?[/QUOTE]I think Dietzenbach was part of the chain at one time, but I don't think the chain still exists as such. There are a few girls there who have been there for years (which is a good sign) , but most of the girls are relatively new and started long after the demise of the red-carpet chain.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1328007]However, it is absolutely unthinkable that anything for EUR 50 for 30 minutes at the more upscale clubs can be better than Ina, Sonia, Milena or Sylvie.[/QUOTE]Depends on your personal taste. If you are looking for 8s. 9s or 10s you might be disappointed. Go and try a bigger club like Oase, Sharks or World and you will see.

HB

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1328007]Fazit: Give Dietzenbach a try. Follow the recommendations from me and other punters regarding the girls. You can ring to see who is there when and there are pictures at the bar so you can put names to faces (or whatever body parts you choose).[/QUOTE]Thanks Sven,

I'll give this club a try. I could start paying for entrance+1 girl, then see how the line-up suits me,

It's a great deal, if I get disappointed. I just turn my car around and head for the bigger FKK clubs.

Nille

Hi guys.

Had a few days in Frankfurt and decided to try out fkk Dietzenbach. For sure not as elegant hmmm as Palace Oase or even Mainhattan but I think a gem in the suburbs.

Not too difficult to find if younuse public transport. Take the s2 to dietzenbach.

A few tips. If you are worried about finding the place it maybe an idea to get off the train at Dietzenbach mitte which isnthe stop before the dt bahnhof. While the train stopped I saw many, taxis at the station and my estimate of cost from there to fkk is max 10 euro.

I got off at the last stop which is Dt bahnhof. I could not navigate Lance Amstrong through the tour de France even when e are both not taking shit so maps don't help me. Confusion as to where to go now. I stood in the street and tried to hail the only taxi in town but he ignored me. I was ready to leave when he came past. I got into the taxi with driver Ahmed and he asked 5 euro to the club. No meter so I don't know if he declared the income. At that point who gives a fuck.

Got to the club at aboutn1. 30 and was met by blond manager. In her day must have been a 9 but I am almost 60 so for me a still very acceptable 8. Very friendly and called Ina to show me round. At that point did not realize she was the famous Ina thatit referred to in previous reports.

So the line up. If you are a film star yourself and only want optifuck then you have two 9 or possible 10 to choose from of about 25 ladies. A blond Romanian about the best looker. I did not get her name. But watched her being very open and friendly with a guy on the couches. Next a tall blond Croatian also no name sorry guys.

About 10-15 who are 6-8 and the rest below that. There only about 2 I would have not done and I longed for my early 30s when I could have lined them all up and had them all screaming for more at 15 minute intervals. Those were the days.

You can choose the number of ladies you want up front and then add if you have the energy. I took 2 and had a wonderful first session with Ina. The marrying type but she turned me down. She was recommend by a guy who met in the shower.

This is really a friendly place. Like your local pub. All nice folks. She was sensual and a great kisser DATY was great and finished in miss. A greatprovider and just a sweet person. English almost perfect.

Next was Linda. Not sure why I chose her but had never tried anyone from Czech before. She is mix, older and I think has south American somewhere in her background. Told me she worked for 3 years at Oase. I am quite sure some of youmwill know her. Once again a good solid time with all available. I did not try for the back door.

A travel tip. On the way back I walked to the station and was able to find a great way to the club from the station.

When you leave the station area turn left and follow disused tracks for about 50 meters. You will see a grass pathway in front of you. Take it and follow it to a small street passage type thing which will bring you onto max Planck street. Turn left for about 300 meters and pass hotel garni. When you get to office blocks turn right into a street between the buildings. Then turn leftbagain for about 100 meters. Look down one of th side roads and you will see a sign for Sauna. And there you are.

I think great value in a friendly non pushy environment.

The rev

[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy; 1341056]Next was Linda. Not sure why I chose her but had never tried anyone from Czech before. She is mix, older and I think has south American somewhere in her background. Told me she worked for 3 years at Oase. I am quite sure some of youmwill know her. Once again a good solid time with all available. I did not try for the back door.

The rev[/QUOTE]Hi The Rev,

Was Linda a fairly robust blond, blue eyes, maybe a horsey face and have large natural breasts? Then definitely she would be recognizable to the regular Oase visitors.

Thank you for the report.

[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy;1341056]Not too difficult to find if younuse public transport. Take the s2 to dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy;1341056]Got to the club at aboutn1. 30 and was met by blond manager. In her day must have been a 9 but I am almost 60 so for me a still very acceptable 8. Very friendly and called Ina to show me round. At that point did not realize she was the famous Ina that it referred to in previous reports.[/QUOTE]Probably the Ina I mentioned. Frizzy hair? Very, very nice girl.

[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy;1341056]Next a tall blond Croatian also no name sorry guys.[/QUOTE]If she had big tits and a small arse then it was Sonia. Also good (but not quite as good as Ina, Sylvie and Milena).

[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy;1341056]I took 2 and had a wonderful first session with Ina. The marrying type but she turned me down. She was recommend by a guy who met in the shower.[/QUOTE]Turned down your marriage proposal? Yes, I wouldn't mind being married to her. (Fortunately I am happily married.)

Has anyone been here recently? Not far from Frankfurt, less expensive than most places, some good experiences possible. Will check it out again soon but am interested in hearing from people who have been there recently.

For the second day of my January Frankfurt layover I wanted to combine one club during the day with Oase in the evening. I wanted to try another club I hadn't visited before, and since I like to try a few flat-rate clubs with my FKK visits there were few options in the Frankfurt area besides FKK Dietzenbach. The place seems to have an identity crisis, with the website fkk30. Com, web description FKK40, and email address info@fkk-63128dietzenbach.com!

I put it on my itinerary since it was so easy to reach by train from Frankfurt. Dietzenbach is the end station on the S2 line. 32 minutes away; trains travel every 30 minutes from Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof and back for most of the day (last train to Frankfurt is 11 minutes before midnight). From the Dietzenbach Hauptbahnhof (a fairly small station for such a name) it's about a ten minute walk to the club, better when the weather isn't as frigid as it was the day I visited; the October report by TheAfricanBoy (

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach&p=1341056&viewfull=1#post1341056[/url]

) gives good directions by foot. The club's neighborhood is a mix of some residential buildings and car dealerships and other businesses, but you can get a view of countryside not very far off. When I reached the club itself it looked like I was entering a warehouse or factory complete with loading dock, despite the clear signs, but then I saw the small set of gated stairs to enter and got buzzed in.

I arrived soon after they opened at 10AM. The stocky middle-aged blonde manager greeted me, alternately friendly and brusque. The pricing option I paid for was three sessions for 90 Euros, plus 29. 99 Euro entry charge; I knew I would have to choose different girls for each session. I changed clothing in the locker room and took stock of the facilities. This club appeared to be a clone of FKK Arabella in Bochum. It had the same sort of couches and general theécor scheme in the main lounge (especially the erotic paintings) , a similar kind of bar (even down to the same soda machine) , and later I noticed the bedrooms were nearly identical. As at Arabella the locker room underwhelmed: it was small and the towels given for wearing and drying were kind of threadbare. Next to the bar area was the entrance to the sauna (barely hotter than room temperature) , tanning bed and showers (excellent, a real gusher and nice and hot, perfect for a cold day like this one).

Overall I couldn't see how this club could justify the 30 Euro entry charge. If they got the sauna up to an acceptable temperature the facilities would have been fine, comfortable enough though not as plush as a typical FKK. The real problem was the lousy food, arrayed on a table in the bar area near the entrance. Lunch consisted of boiled frankfurters, mystery-meat cold cuts on half-slices of Wonder bread, and a watery mushroom (?) soup. I swallowed some of this but filled up on the cheesecake instead. This is a place to visit on a full stomach, which unfortunately was not my case that morning.

Even more disheartening than the food was my first glimpse of the women. As I came out of the locker room I saw two couches across from the bar where several girls were sitting. One solid brunette looked kind of sexy with dark-rimmed glasses and piercings, but the three or four others (one had Asian features) were amply-sized and not very attractive facially.

Fortunately, as I navigated the couple of steps from the bar area down to the sunken main lounge carrying my coffee and meager lunch plate, I saw another possibility for female companionship. Victoria was one of only two girls in the lounge (the other one said hello as I passed but was doing her makeup so I kept her in mind for later). After having a bite to eat I took a seat on the couch next to Victoria. In contrast to the women near the bar, this sexy brunette from Romania (maybe Bulgaria, I forget) was tall and svelte and attractive. She spoke English well, and was happy to return my kisses as I leaned in and put my arm around her.

The room we selected upstairs resembled the ones at FKK Arabella, and as it turned out this session also followed the pattern of a sub-par session I had at Arabella. As with the girl there, Victoria showed more inclination for kissing on the public couches than in the room. Another repeat of that experience, she was kind of quick to get through oral sex, and called for me to make a quick finish once we started fucking. She consented to a variety of positions, but this seemed mostly a matter of finding a way to get me off. I had been very busy at FKK Rom the previous day and night so difficulty cumming was not unexpected, and the limited sustenance here didn't help. But it was largely Victoria's approach that made finishing impossible. I rebuffed her attempt to make me cum by way of a hand job – she pulled off the condom in doing so – and when I suggested fucking her again she put the same used condom back on me! After about 20 minutes I told her that it would be impossible for me to cum, and she replied that if that was the case we had to leave the room, since the guests were here to ejaculate, and the girls were not allowed to stay with them otherwise. I was happy to leave by that point. Victoria did show me around more of the club afterward and was friendly when I saw her in the lounge again, but it was a disappointing first session and lowered my expectations for the rest of the visit.

After an attempt at the sauna I returned to the main lounge, and was happy to note a few more girls present. I would estimate that the total number during my time there was about 12, understandably few for a late Sunday morning and early afternoon. One of them was a slim, lovely, olive skinned girl with long, lustrous black hair. She was inaccessible, however, since an older German man was sitting with her. I was happy when he left her, and happier when I asked and she told me she was available. Denisa was from Romania, half Turkish in background. I proposed that she join me for my second session of the day, but as we were about to climb the stairs to the rooms she motioned to a very sexy young thing sitting on a couch across from the bar, and asked if I wanted to do a threesome with both of them.

This other girl was Anka, whom I had seen fixing her makeup in the main lounge at the start of my visit. If 24 year old Denisa was pretty (despite some evidence of a baby belly) 22 year old Anka looked exquisite: petite, with lovely white skin, pert breasts, and dreamy, exotic eyes. I quickly indicated that she should join Denisa and me, and asked myself why I hadn't pursued her at the start. I didn't know that threesomes were on offer at a place like this one that was a variation on the flat-rate concept. In other partytreffs I had visited taking two girls was not an option. This was perfect, though, allowing me to have a good time with two beautiful girls and save myself some time for my planned outing to Oase later that day. On the other hand, I wasn't sure what the standard of service would be like, especially after my session with Victoria.

I lucked out. Because this turned out to be one of the better threesomes I've experienced. Denisa and Anka were great dick suckers, especially in tandem with each licking up and down on one side of my cock. In my experience it has never been easy to get a duo to peform this maneuver well, but these two certainly could. Each girl rode me, and I took each in missionary, but Anka was especially sweet. I lived out a high-school girlfriend with her, as she who looked more like a teenie than her professed 23 years. Cupping her perky tits and sucking her pink nipples was a joy, as was looking into her wonderful face as we fucked.

As we neared the half hour mark I despaired, since I still wasn't fully recovered enough from the previous day to shoot my load. The girls gave me a pleasant surprise by telling me that I could extend the session by paying each another 30 Euros for an additional half hour (paid directly to the girls afterward; I should have known this pricing option from previous posters on ISG but had forgotten). This permitted a more relaxed remainder of the session; one of the girls even brought us some drinks. Even better, they clued me in on the fact that Denisa was willing to let me cum in her mouth for just 20 Euros more.

This is how I finished, and afterward the three of us spent some time lying in each other's arms, chatting, kissing, and caressing. It was a surprising session and level of service for this kind of club, not to mention the quality of the girls' looks. Plus great value for a cum in mouth finish and for a threesome, making FKK Dietzenbach a nice option for these. Would I return? Possibly, but I would put a number of clubs ahead of it in the rotation.

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1381621]This is how I finished, and afterward the three of us spent some time lying in each other's arms, chatting, kissing, and caressing. It was a surprising session and level of service for this kind of club, not to mention the quality of the girls' looks. Plus great value for a cum in mouth finish and for a threesome, making FKK Dietzenbach a nice option for these. Would I return? Possibly, but I would put a number of clubs ahead of it in the rotation.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Your experience parallels mine: 2 good girls for one bad (or, in one case, average) girl. I guess it really depends on which girls has sessions with. Thanks for mentioning the names. My reports also include names, so by having a list of names punters should be able to get their money's worth. The last time I was there, there were photos of the girls with names at the bar, so that one could put names to faces.

The club does fill a niche with its reasonable pricing for the sessions. (Just like Arabella fills a niche for FKK nudity in NRW, as well as Arabella's available AO for those inclined). But I think Dietzenbach is better for filling its niche for locals than visitors. Given all the choices around Frankfurt, and the limitations if you want to spend a lot of time at a club (mediocre facilities and food) , plus a less enticing group of women than in other FKK's, it's probably not the best use of a visitor's time. That said, as I experienced (and SvenFKK too, apparently) , fine girls and good sessions can be had. But that 30 Euro entry charge is too high for what you get there.

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1382132]The club does fill a niche with its reasonable pricing for the sessions. (Just like Arabella fills a niche for FKK nudity in NRW, as well as Arabella's available AO for those inclined). But I think Dietzenbach is better for filling its niche for locals than visitors. Given all the choices around Frankfurt, and the limitations if you want to spend a lot of time at a club (mediocre facilities and food) , plus a less enticing group of women than in other FKK's, it's probably not the best use of a visitor's time. That said, as I experienced (and SvenFKK too, apparently) , fine girls and good sessions can be had. But that 30 Euro entry charge is too high for what you get there.[/QUOTE]I have been to this club several times, and while I agree that €30 is expensive for the entrance fee, when you consider the price per session is only €30 it does make the club overall great value. In fact in the past they never used to explicitly give the entrance fee, but it was "built in" to the session pricing system. One reason I go there is if I fancy some sex but do not want to spend too much. When I go to Oasis I am never really sure what the day is going to cost me, but at this club I know it will be €120. From what I understand from other reports (German and English) I have read, there are really no decent flat rate clubs in the Frankfurt area, so if you are looking for semi-decent sex at a good price then this club is a good option for the FFM area. However I live here, so if someone is flying to Germany just to visit the clubs, then I am not sure a visit to this one makes sense (unless they are on a tight budget, but if that were the case they should fly to Düsseldorf instead).

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1382132]. (Just like Arabella fills a niche for FKK nudity in NRW[/QUOTE]What do you mean by that? Surely a) the definition of an FKK club is that girls are nude and be) there are many FKK clubs in NRW.

My impression is that Arabella fills a niche with regard to pricing in NRW, but that is not what you wrote.

[QUOTE=Qw123;1382414]I have been to this club several times, and while I agree that €30 is expensive for the entrance fee, when you consider the price per session is only €30 it does make the club overall great value.[/QUOTE]Right. At the end of the day, with regard to money, what matters is how much, on average, you paid per session.

I also like the fact that one keeps the keys to the lockers, rather than giving them up at the bar. While I've never experienced anything bad, it would be too easy for another punter to "accidentally" get the wrong key.

Most clubs in NRW are Sauna clubs where the girls are not fully nude but wearing lingerie. There's a few FKK clubs like Bernd's or Arabella etc.

Pricing in Dietzenbach has changed: 30min per half hour plus entry (the models vary) but now ALL extras the girl offers are INCLUDED. We'll see how this does affect the line-up. There's a lot of discussion on this topic on German boards.

HB

[QUOTE=SvenFKK; 1390884]What do you mean by that? Surely a) the definition of an FKK club is that girls are nude and be) there are many FKK clubs in NRW.

My impression is that Arabella fills a niche with regard to pricing in NRW, but that is not what you wrote.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1390890]Most clubs in NRW are Sauna clubs where the girls are not fully nude but wearing lingerie. There's a few FKK clubs like Bernd's or Arabella etc.[/QUOTE]What I meant was along the lines of what Hessen Bub wrote (if I interpreted that right). I actively sought out Arabella during my NRW trip because it offered full nudity which was not as easily found compared to the Hesse area. In the same way that I actively sought out Dietzenbach because it offered the flat rate experience that's not as easily found in Hesse as in NRW, in my experience at least.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1390890]Pricing in Dietzenbach has changed: 30min per half hour plus entry (the models vary) but now ALL extras the girl offers are INCLUDED. We'll see how this does affect the line-up. There's a lot of discussion on this topic on German boards. HB[/QUOTE]That is a great deal if extras are included; 30 per session is excellent value in itself as other have written. HB, do you know if they still require guests to distribute their sessions among different girls (meaning no repeating with the same girl)?

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1391058]HB, do you know if they still require guests to distribute their sessions among different girls (meaning no repeating with the same girl)?[/QUOTE]Yes they do.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1390890]Pricing in Dietzenbach has changed: 30min per half hour plus entry (the models vary) but now ALL extras the girl offers are INCLUDED. We'll see how this does affect the line-up. There's a lot of discussion on this topic on German boards.[/QUOTE]Presumably EUR 30 per half hour (it's always 30 minutes per half hour!). What is the entry price? Still 30? If so, then this is essentially the same price, at least if one has 3 sessions.

I like the pictures of the girls with names. Is there also a list of who offers what extras?

What's the reason for the change? I welcome it, of course, but for the girls this must mean less money, unless there are more customers to compensate, but then one might have to wait longer, at least for the good girls.

What German boards do you recommend for the discussion of Dietzenbach?

I'd recommend LSH: [url]www.lustscout.to/forum[/url]. Or [url]www.roemerforum.com/forum[/url].

They are changing their pricing structure every few months. Reasom for thr change? Bringing in more customers to make mote money for the owner. For the girls. There's different views on that.

HB

I was reading one of the German boards (via google translate) and it seems to be AO (FS with now condom) now, am I

Reading that correctly?

There's a group of 3-4 girls from NRW AO clubs (Grimberg, Arabella, VV) who offer AO. The are staying for a limited time, then returning to NRW. No idea if they want to turn Dietzenbach into a BB location.

HB

Website says "8 Neue AO Luder". Any reports on AO experiences at Dietzenbach?

And what's a Luder?

"Luder" means bi*ch, babe, sl*t. So 'bare back bitches" would be a good translation. FKK 40 belongs to the group of RTC clubs, same owner as Arabella, Venus, Grimberg. They are sending girls from these 3 clubs to Hessen to transfer the club into a BB location. Quite a few of the regular girls have left, there's a handfull left NOT offering BB plus the new girls from NRW offering BB services. He Happy Hour offer doesn't exist anymore.

HB

Thanks HB. I'll be in the area on April 12-14. Might have to check it out.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1404315]"FKK 40 belongs to the group of RTC clubs, same owner as Arabella, Venus, Grimberg. They are sending girls from these 3 clubs to Hessen to transfer the club into a BB location. Quite a few of the regular girls have left, there's a handfull left NOT offering BB plus the new girls from NRW offering BB services. He Happy Hour offer doesn't exist anymore.[/QUOTE]OK, that clears things up a bit. Are Sylvie, Milena and Ina still there?

Before the change, some girls offered extras for extra money. Is it true that extras are now included in the EUR 30? Does this go for the imported girls as well as those who offered extras in the past for extra money?

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1404308]Website says "8 Neue AO Luder". Any reports on AO experiences at Dietzenbach?[/QUOTE]Yes, it seems like the website was updated recently and explicitly mentions extras being included in the standard price.

It would be nice if they updated the "girls" section of the website. It hasn't changed in years.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1404654]Is it true that extras are now included in the EUR 30? Does this go for the imported girls as well as those who offered extras in the past for extra money?[/QUOTE]All the extras a girl offers are included in the 30 EUR. That's for all the girls. The regular girls may not offer BB or other extras.

HB

I visited the club at Dietzenbach after a 10-hour drive. I was tired, but had been interested in checking out the club for a while and given the costs I didn't have much to lose. I hope my report won't turn out to be useless, because I can't remember a single name. None of the girls I saw are on the website, and when I was there, I didn't recognize any of the ones that are on the website.

A naked 30ish girl from Bali (I later found out) met me at the door and walked me to the counter. Entry fee was €30 and the prepay options matched what their website offers: 1 = 40, 2 = 70, or 3 = 90. I chose 3 for 90. My expectations were pretty low for both the space and the talent. I was positively surprised by both. You enter into a room perhaps 25 x 35 meters with couches arranged in a pleasant arrangement and with pretty young girls distributed around. My reaction at the time was "I could do any of these girls." Several good solid 7s by my standard. My ideal woman would not be highly made up, but would have a natural beauty with well-defined hips and stand alone natural breasts with puffy nipples.

I asked Bali Girl (excellent English) about public sex. She said bjs and fondling, but usually not intercourse. I decided to make her my first, so on the couch across from the TF, she started fondling and kissing, then on to a blowjob. After a bit we went up to a room, where she continue to be warm and affectionate. For the record she is not AO. Nice first session.

I had scarcely sat down when a much younger, more attractive girl sat by me. Soon we were kissing and fondling, which in turn led to a trip to a room. This time to one directly off the main room. She was great fun, and did offer a choice of condom or AO.

Later a small, dark girl got my attention. And somehow on our way to a room convinced me to take another girl also for a threesome. It was not great, but I was in a playful mood so it worked for me. When I returned to the TF I was one girl short on my card, so I paid an additional 40. So they start over once you've used up your original purchase.

Overall, I liked the place and would return. The girls weren't sophisticated, but were sexy and fun for me.

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1412467]I visited the club at Dietzenbach after a 10-hour drive. I was tired, but had been interested in checking out the club for a while and given the costs I didn't have much to lose. I hope my report won't turn out to be useless, because I can't remember a single name. None of the girls I saw are on the website, and when I was there, I didn't recognize any of the ones that are on the website.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned, the website, especially the "girls" section, hasn't changed in a long time, so no surprise here. (Recently, the link to it has disappeared, though manually typing in "girls. Html" will work.) The last time I was there, at the bar there were pictures of the girls there on that day with names and extras offered.

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1412467]A naked 30ish girl from Bali (I later found out) met me at the door and walked me to the counter.[/QUOTE]Presumably all were naked, right?

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1412467]Entry fee was €30 and the prepay options matched what their website offers: 1 = 40, 2 = 70, or 3 = 90. I chose 3 for 90. My expectations were pretty low for both the space and the talent. I was positively surprised by both. You enter into a room perhaps 25 x 35 meters with couches arranged in a pleasant arrangement and with pretty young girls distributed around. My reaction at the time was "I could do any of these girls." Several good solid 7s by my standard. My ideal woman would not be highly made up, but would have a natural beauty with well-defined hips and stand alone natural breasts with puffy nipples.[/QUOTE]I agree; that's pretty much my impression as well. I'm not sure what you mean by "puffy nipples", but otherwise our tastes agree and there are such women there. Ina comes to mind.

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1412467]Overall, I liked the place and would return. The girls weren't sophisticated, but were sexy and fun for me.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't want the club to become too full, but I hope it stays in business, so it would be good if more people check it out and report back with names!

Yes, all the girls were naked, but only one of them met me at the door. I find that quite welcoming. Preferable to be escorted to the desk by a naked girl than to just come face to face with a (sometimes) surly, fully clothed Thenke Frau.

They also had a gallery of pictures with the girls' offerings the night I was there. Although not everyone who was there had a picture up. Bali Girl, for example, did not have her picture up. But there is an additional problem for me. I sometimes can't match up the pictures with the girls. Even when I've just spent time in a room with a girl, I sometimes can't pick out their pictures. I'd make a terrible witness in a criminal trial.

Puffy nipples means that the areolas, as compared to just the nipples, stand up from the breasts.

I rang a couple of times to see who would be there, but phone service was unfriendly. Not sure who was on the phone; not the Thekenfrau. I decided to take my chances despite the unfriendliness on the phone.

The door was opened by Ina, whom I know from a previous visit. Good start. I hurried to get undressed so that I could grab her quickly. The Thekenfrau asked if I had been there before. I said yes. She said that she then didn't have to explain anything. I said not unless something has changed in the past few months. She then said that things had: all extras are included in the price (which is the same as before). She also pointed out which of the girls in the pictures were AO. (These were those which said "mache alles", perhaps qualified with an "außer". The others listed the extras explicitly. Except for Jessi, who listed them explicitly but was AO.

I started off with Ina, without having time to peruse the pictures. Just like I remembered her-wonderful session. I seriously doubt that anything is better at more expensive places. She does DFK, DATY and lets you rim her, which I knew from last time. I asked her if she did anything else and she said NS and CIM. After lots of stroking and cuddling and some kissing, I did some rimming and DATY before fucking her. The first time, so I knew I would come quickly. I pulled out and let her suck me until I came. Great BJ technique.

She mentioned that, of the 6 girls in my previous 2 reports, Sonia and Victoria were no longer there. Victoria was the only bad experience I have had here. (Before I discovered Partytreffs, I was here a couple of times about 10 years ago.) Sonia was good but not great (a better looker-huge tits-than performer, though the performance was OK.) It wasn't clear if Sylvie was gone for good or just not there on the day. Apart from Ina, Milena and the Asian girl (forget the name-long hair, good massage; see my previous report (I think in the Partytreff forum, not in the FKK clubs forum) were also there on the day. I decided to go for Milena again, having good memories of her. She wears stockings (one of the few to do so; most are completely nude) , but takes them off in the room (at least if one asks). Her extras are rimming (her rimming you) and swallowing, so I decided to have both. A similar session to Ina-cuddling and stroking, DFK, DATY, then fuck and finally letting her suck me off. After some initial relaxation, she licked me from the neck down to my arse (avoiding my dick because I had asked her to) for some great rimming. I then rimmed her and after some DATY the fuck was good. Again, I let her suck me off and swallow. Like Ina, really nice, not at all rushed (the sessions with her and Ina were 30 minutes, the last 5 or 10 after I came).

Ina has frizzy hair and big (compared to the other girls, but probably only C) tits. Milena is thin and wears stockings.

After a bit longer break, and based on recommendations from Milena and perusing the photos, I chose Andrea for my third session. Why not some anal if available? I didn't want an AO girl since I am not into AO. I wouldn't have done AO with them (it's not required) , but if there are non-AO girls who do what I want, then I prefer those. The Thekenfrau said that Andrea did good anal (not sure how she would know). Andrea had long dark hair, dark skin and small tits. Shaved, but not too recently. The session was similar to the first two, but instead of having her suck me off (I think she did anal but not CIM) , I fucked her arse. It was good, but confirmed my conclusion that anal is not what it is cracked up to be (at least for the guy-for the girl it is quite different of course; the main attraction in that girls who do it are usually otherwise better). Since I was pressed for time, I left after coming, even though we had about 10 minutes left.

The fact that this report is short (again, I'm pressed for time) shouldn't create the impression that Dietzenbach was not really good. I highly recommend it: cheap (for an FKK club) , basic food, drinks and sauna included, about a dozen nude girls at any time. 30-minute, non-rushed sessions, extras like anal, swallowing, rimming, DFK available at no extra charge, many AO girls if you want that (apparently some do anal AO as well) , GFE with all girls. Since I was pressed for time, I'm not sure about Andrea, if it would have been a true GFE or not, but Milena and Ina certainly are. Highly recommended.

Colleagues, how you pay there?

Prepay 1, 2 or 3 session?

Pay entry + per session?

Pay to the girl or to the reception?

Pay after each session or for all session as you leave?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1420688]Colleagues, how you pay there?

Prepay 1, 2 or 3 session?

Pay entry + per session?

Pay to the girl or to the reception?

Pay after each session or for all session as you leave?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I've been here a couple of times. A reasonable place, not far from Frankfurt and worth visiting. It's a cross between an FKK and a pauschal club. FKK in the sense that the ladies are nude; pauschal in the sense that you can prepay for a certain amount of service (like Arabella up north near Dusseldorf).

Here is my suggestion: Pay for entry+2. This gives you the option of 2 sessions (but not with the same lady or a duo) ; if you decide to stay for additional sessions, it's only 30 eur but this also gives you the flexibility of extending a session or a duo.

The girls are not aggressive and some of them will not even bother making eye contact. Ina (Romanian) is a gem. She speaks good English, tall and attractive with long curly hair, a little bit wacky and funny but very pleasant. Another one is Milena (Polish, in her 40s, blonde) ; she seems past her prime, but she's not.

Report on your experience. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Chris42;1420706]Here is my suggestion: Pay for entry+2. This gives you the option of 2 sessions (but not with the same lady or a duo) ; if you decide to stay for additional sessions, it's only 30 eur but this also gives you the flexibility of extending a session or a duo.[/QUOTE]The pricing seems to be a bit of a moving target, but my experience was that the additional session started over again at 40.

On my visit in March I had a session with a beauty from some baltic country, she did not appreciate that many girls in that club offer Ao service now and I totally shared those concerns. I would try to avoid any of those, consider them high risk and all the STDs in the book can also be transferred by oral contact, consider also that the hygiene is rather basic in all these joints.

Lp

[QUOTE=Chris42;1420706]Report on your experience. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]I definitely will try. I've been mongering since 2004. Before I visited top level clubs only. First time I visited Red Carper class club last year. It was Villa Venus. Now I pay my visit there every trip. I was positively surprised by service level there. I did not realize that this kind of clubs available in Hesse. I thought they available in NBR only.

One more question. I will drive rental car to Dietzenbach. Due to my trip agenda I will keep in trunk all my luggage including business laptop. I know this is not safe at Villa Venus. How safe parking at Dietzenbach is?

[QUOTE=Jymondor;1421532]to my trip agenda I will keep in trunk all my luggage including business laptop. I know this is not safe at Villa Venus. How safe parking at Dietzenbach is?[/QUOTE]I'd say it is very safe, I leave my business laptop in thr car when going there. It's right in front of the entrance in a dead end.

HB

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1421532]I definitely will try. I've been mongering since 2004. Before I visited top level clubs only. First time I visited Red Carper class club last year. It was Villa Venus. Now I pay my visit there every trip. I was positively surprised by service level there. I did not realize that this kind of clubs available in Hesse. I thought they available in NBR only.

Totally agree with you.

I used to always go to the big Hesse clubs, and paid quite a lot for service which was not alwAYs top class. It was hard to have any good session for just 50 Euros, since most girls expected some extras, and were upselling all along. (Yes, I know, there are exceptions, but I refer to the majority). Once I discovered the so-called "low cost" clubs in NRW, especially VV, I only go there. Will try Dietzenbach when next in Hesse.

I realise that those clubs do not offer big pools, gardens, food, massage etc. And more importantly for some, there are few, if any, tall blond EE optifucks girls. But what those may miss in looks, they compensate in service and attitude, and many are quite cute and pretty, but more like your next door cute neighboor tha the usual EE / Russian porn star.

In practice, I usually get 3 shots in one evening, and, for some reasons, do not cum easily inside. So, in any big Hesse clubs, my minimum cost is 100, since I need to COB, or CIM. Means that an ordinary evening cost 370 E.

In any of those "low cost clubs", the cost for 3 sessions, extras included (and that includes Anal and AO, if offered, and requested.) , and entrance included, is 110 or 120.

To each his own!

[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1421475]On my visit in March I had a session with a beauty from some baltic country, she did not appreciate that many girls in that club offer Ao service now and I totally shared those concerns. I would try to avoid any of those, consider them high risk and all the STDs in the book can also be transferred by oral contact, consider also that the hygiene is rather basic in all these joints.

Lp[/QUOTE]There are AO clubs, and non AO clubs. Why would you, and the girl you talked to go to an AO club, I just don't get it.

As you say, avoid those clubs, they are clearly labelled. You will be fine, and so will we.

And leave us, who have a different opinion, alone!

There are no differences between those coming to the Ao threads preaching covered sex, and the feminists coming to prostitution fora to preach abstinence. And this common feature is called: Intolerance".

(QUOTE=Dreams; 1421636]There are AO clubs, and non AO clubs. Why would you, and the girl you talked to go to an AO club, I just don't get it.)



Well.To me this change of trend concerning AO comes as surprise as I took it for given that service was mostly covered and AO provided in the clubs that test the customers. Would not loose my time preaching to that community as they know about their risks. When AO is more commonly practiced, that will of cause raise level of infections with the providers who now mostly come from eastern Europe with reduced awareness for this, at the same time they get under pressure to offer those services. Still think that top girls like Vicky would never offer that, rather corps de ballet of older and fatter girls who are desperate.

Until now I was just aware that the girls don't have high hygiene standarts like thais but now I will have to think twice before dining at the Y.

LP

[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1424281] (QUOTE=Dreams; 1421636]

Well. To me this change of trend concerning AO comes as surprise as I took it for given that service was mostly covered and AO provided in the clubs that test the customers. .

LP[/QUOTE]What change of trend? And I cannot understand the rest of the sentence.

Anyway, in case you don't know, AO is even occasionnally offered at so called non-AO clubs, and you will never know who does it and who does not.

Best for you to stay at homne and wank.

[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1424281] (QUOTE=Dreams; 1421636]

AO provided in the clubs that test the customers. Would not loose my time preaching to that community as they know about their risks. LP[/QUOTE]Testing the customers is just a joke, since it may take up to 2-3 weeks for an infection to be detectable. And most guys who indulge in our hobby don't stay inactive for such a long time.

It gives people like you an impression of safety, and allows you to preach others.

A short post to get us back on track.

Paid a very pleasant visit here on Saturday afternoon by way of a hors the'oeuvre before my regular visit to the Le Coq swinger club in the evening. It was my first visit here for over a year and I really don't know quite why I've left it so long as I had a very enjoyable time and I found that all of the girls were of a reasonable standard and eager to please. No doubt the competing Bundesligia attractions may have had something to do with it because punter numbers were very low and so it was definitely a buyer's market and all of the girls were doing their best to pitch their wares.

There were around 13 girls present and as has been previously mentioned their pictures and various services are available for inspection in a display cabinet on the bar.

I sampled:[list][*][b]Ina[/b] a full figured frizzy haired Romanian. She is an English speaker who was very engaging and I was very impressed that she remembered me from my previous visit particularly given the number of guys that these must girls get through and I really don't know how they manage to remember the faces. We warmed up with some DFK and a BJ in the lounge before retiring to a room to continue getting reacquainted. Anyway it was good session culminating in CIM although I had forgotten that she spits and doesn't swallow. Can't have everything I suppose.
[*][b]Diane[/b] was next up a black haired bespectacled Romanian lass who was wearing stockings and a gold link chain around her waist. She is one of the AO providers and another English speaker. She works at both Ville Venus and Dietzenbach although she says that she prefers Dietzenbach. I had met her at VV 3 weeks ago and although I hadn't sampled her there she too remembered me from my visit there and had also remembered that I had gone with Ela on that occasion. A bog standard AO suck and fuck session including DFK, DATY and rimming (me on her) but fine nonetheless. She really enjoyed my tongue work and I was particularly pleased that there was no fake moaning.
[*]My final session was with [b]Mary[/b] another AO provider from Ville Venus and another good session including DFK, DATY and BBBJ.[/list]
I think that this club is definitely the best of the ex red-carpet clubs and I definitely won't leave it so long before visiting again.

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]A short post to get us back on track.[/QUOTE]Great report!

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]I sampled: Ina a full figured frizzy haired Romanian. She is an English speaker who was very engaging[/QUOTE]I've spoken only German with her. One of my favourites: nice girl, nice body, natural look, nothing fake, all real, does CIM (though no swallow). Like most girls at Dietzenbach will let you rim her.

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]and I was very impressed that she remembered me from my previous visit particularly given the number of guys that these must girls get through and I really don't know how they manage to remember the faces.[/QUOTE]She remembered me as well. But who says it was your face which she remembered? .

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]We warmed up with some DFK and a BJ in the lounge before retiring to a room to continue getting reacquainted. Anyway it was good session culminating in CIM although I had forgotten that she spits and doesn't swallow. Can't have everything I suppose.[/QUOTE]Except at Mettmann. Actually, there are probably some girls at Dietzenbach who swallow. In the immortal words of Lemmy: You can't have everything, can you? Where would you put it?

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]rimming (me on her) but fine nonetheless. She really enjoyed my tongue work and I was particularly pleased that there was no fake moaning.[/QUOTE]Milena, another favourite, will rim you. (She is a bit thin for my taste, but a great provider.) The one with the stockings (though she will take them off in the room if you ask).

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1424811]I think that this club is definitely the best of the ex red-carpet clubs and I definitely won't leave it so long before visiting again.[/QUOTE]Maybe we'll meet there sometime.

I had the pleasure of clubbing with an esteemed board member in NRW last week, and during one of our days in some AO club he happened to mention in passing about FKK Dietzenbach, & the same setup pretty much as the sister clubs, V V, Grimberg & Arabelle. Well after driving and checking into my hotel I decided to check the place out, very similar set up to the others, with two differences, I think this club is larger then the others, and there is a mixture of regular and AO girls here. At the time of writing this I have been twice, but think that will rise to three before my flight takes off Sunday afternoon. Found the girls to be very friendly, not like the old hag behind the desk, who barks at you when you entry, if you pay for more then one session you can only take the same girl once, if you want to repeat you must pay for that girl again. Being a fan of the bigger breasted girls I was in heaven, had the pleasure of getting to know Casandra from V V again, great that she remembered me from 5 months ago, also had a threesome with Mary & Cassandra which was great, nothing like have two AO girls switch places without any stopping or cleanup. But the find of the trip has to be Diana, very large breasts, glasses, and a great girl to talk too, play with and have fantastic sex with.

It is great now to be able to enjoy some good AO action in the FFM area.

Here's hoping to get back before the flight.

Thought about taking a train ride to Krefeld / Moers / Bonn, but feared a missed 5 pm flight back to DC, so I opted for FKK Dietzenbach for my Layover.

Took the S2 to Dietzenbach from Frankfurt HBF, and it took approx 32 minutes. Took a cab, ordered from a local Pub, and after a €5 ride arrived at the door around 11:30am.

All the details offered in earlier reports are accurate.

Took the 3 session option for 90 plus 10 for the house. The Theke is a *****.

Session with Carmen, first. Spinner type, dark hair, Romanian. GFE with great oral skills. Started on the couch with DFK, and a BBBJ and off to the room. Lasted all of two minutes. Sigh.

Valentina from Latvia came next. Prettiest one there, IMHO, with attractive girl next door features. Blond, slim, B cups. Light kissing and a decent though not great BBBJ. Probably should have chosen Milena, as recommended by fellow punters, in hindsight.

Finally enjoyed my last session with Diana. This lady is special. As reported on earlier posts, she's just so pleasant to be with. Great conversation. English is perfect. Naturally pleasant demeanor. She finished university. Affectionate and great sex. A perfect finish. BTW, love the glasses. Reminds me of a Polish WG I used to see in London back in 2011-2012. Different body type, but otherwise could be sisters. Yummy.

Don't like the fact that you can't session more than once with the same lady when you take advantage of the three course tasting menu. They do it to ensure everyone gets business, but would have had all three sessions with Diana. Next time, I'll take one session and pay ala carte for the rest of my meal (s).

It took 20 minutes to get a cab, plus a 20 minute wait for the train. Reached the airport right at boarding time.

Did I mention the Theke is a *****?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bukudala; 1427698]Thought about taking a train ride to Krefeld / Moers / Bonn, but feared a missed 5 pm flight back to DC, so I opted for FKK Dietzenbach for my Layover.

Took the 3 session option for 90 plus 10 for the house. The Theke is a.

Did I mention the Theke is a *

Cheers[/QUOTE]What is a *. ?

[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1428516]What is a *. ?[/QUOTE]B*tch. Eom

Had two session there today. One is standard, one AO (AVO to be more exact). First girl Denisa, second (AVO) forgotten instantly. I would rate this club lower than V-Venus. Ambiance is about the same level, but lineup is not as good as in V-Venus. Service is plain, not even comparable to V-Venus level. AO available but you don't know who provides it. Colored wrist bands like at Cleopatra Arena would be a good idea.

I was there on Friday between 1:00 and 3:00 PM. Place was really busy. I noticed high monger's turnover. Lots of come, lots of leave. Front door is visible from everywhere. I assume sbout 15 girls on duty but no more that thee in time are available. It looked like a f*ng factory.

No doubt there is demand for the clubs like that in Hesse. I cannot understand why nobody tries to fill this market niche. It is virtually vacant at the moment.

Will I repeat? No. When I am in Hesse I will enjoy Sharks, Mainhatten and World. AO is NRW thing.

Let me start by clarifying that this is not only my first time at an FKK, but my first time in Europe. So far, the experience has been great! After reading this forum backwards and forwards, I developed a game plan with the assistance of many of you helpful mongers. Originally, my plan was to get my first nut off by making a quick trip to the RLD this morning. I walked the area, and wasn't too impressed, so I changed plans and decided to go ahead and forge ahead with Dietzenbach. As others have mentioned here, the price is low, the risk is low, and the more I thought about walking out of the RLD, it seemed to be the right move.

First off, thank you guys for the very clear directions getting there via train. I took the S2 from HBF to its end in Dietzenbach and walked the short cut. I want to clarify for people like me who don't think too clearly when they have a pussy on the brain. When you step off the train at Dietzenbach Bf, turn directly to your left and take the last exit from the platform. It'll lead you into a small parking lot located to the left of the depot. Walk through the parking lot and across the street. Then, continue on left following the train tracks as mentioned earlier. The path is at the end of that steet directly ahead of you. I made the mistake of taking the walking trail that is at the end of the parking lot, which will get you where you need to be, but with all the rain its a muddy mess. Several times, I almost ended up breaking my neck, which would have put a very quick and embarassing end to my adventures!

I arrived at the club with no further incidents and was given the newbie speach by thekenfrau, who aparently thought I was adorable, and treated me like gold. I opted for 90 euro for 3, and handed her the 120 euro. She handed me off to Diana who showed me the changing room, and then the shower. After grabbing some soda, I sat with Diana for quite sometime just chatting and getting to know her. As mentioned previously, she's a true gem and her English was impecible! So was her French I quickly found as we engaged in some DFK on the couch. She started stick shifting, and off to the room we went. More DFK. 69, BBJ, and then she mounted for doggie where I quickly finished. A true GFE! We chatted a bit more and parted ways. Shower, another soda, and back to the couches where I just sat and took in the sights. As an American where sex is taboo and mongering horrible, seeing it put out on display as normal blew my mind! One lucky dude was getting his dick sucked on the back couch, while another was getting wacked off across from me. I thought I had died and gone to heaven.

I sat and watched in perfect comfort for about an hour when I saw Carmen appear. Wow! Nice body, long dark hair, penetrating dark eyes, and a perfect ass. Game on! I plopped down next to her and we quickly figured out that conversation wasn't going to happen as she spoke about as much English as I did German. No matter, DFK fixes all, and we made out for a good long while. Then, up to the room for more DFK, BBJ, and missionary. She got a little cold towards the end, but if I compare her performance to those I've had back home, she'd still score in my top 10!

We said our goodbyes, and I realized that I was down to my last girl. Based on previous posts, I wanted to give Milena a try, but she had been in high demand the whole time I was there. Finally, I tracked her down and we chatted a bit. Her English was pretty good and I was really digging the dirty vibe she was laying down. Her hands started wandering and then she pulled back the towel and started paying homage to the ol' flag pole with a very skilled mouth. Suddenly, I realized something. I was sitting right across from the front desk where thekenfrau and three or four girls were chatting amongst themselves. Out in the open, getting my dick sucked by a hot blonde. I watched people pass by, some stopping to smile and I can only imagine the grin on my face. This may be common place to you lucky bastards who get this every day, but for me and my American bretheren. Let me tell you! It's Nirvana for us! Anyways (rant over) , she led me to a room where she continued her oral minstrations. Now, the real reason I went for Milena is that I read she rims which is right up my back alley (so to speak). So she's still going to town on my shaft and balls when I exclaim,"Shit, lick my ass!" She suddenly stops, backs up and says,"What?" I suddenly feared that either (1) this is the wrong Milena who licks ass (2) its the same Milena and the report was wrong [I didn't read the offerings at the bar which was my fault] or (3) me asking her to freaked her out. Thankfully, she just grinned after a few seconds and said she would, but only if I gave her a creamy reward. Which I did. Which she received gratefully.

Four hours and 120 euro later, I walked out of the club with my head held high and grin on my face that is still present. Maybe its because my expectations are lower than others, or that I have no other point of comparison, but I believe the Dietzenbach is a great way to break into this wonderful thing you guys call FKK clubs. I think I've recovered enough to venture out tonight for more fun. It'll be Palace or Manhatten tonight, followed by Oase tomorrow. I'll report accordingly!

Thanks again, guys!

Dante

Hi fellow punters,

From reading other posts in this forum it seems like the girls at Dietzenbach offer RAW. Which as existing and tempting as it is, I was wondering whether they are any compulsory testing in FKK?

Other places I've been to in other countries they have either fortnightly or monthly testing and was wondering if the same applies in Germany.

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

CG

No compulsary testing in Dietzenbach.

HB

AFAIK, there is no compulsory testing in Germany at all among prostitutes. I think there used to be, back when prostitution was not forbidden but still didn't have the legal status it does today. I think the compulsory testing was dropped when the laws changed to make prostitution "more legal". In any case, for a woman with several customers a day, testing every 2 or 4 weeks is not much of an advantage.

Some gang-bang clubs offer testing for customers if they want to participate without a condom. While this is better, I think it is still possible to have an infection but for it not to show up in the test. (Also, I think these tests are only for HIV, not for other STDs.)

Basically, there aren't that many STDs among prostitutes, and those that have them are usually the drug addicts using prostitution as a means to earn enough money. But there is no guarantee. So, basically, you have to weigh up the risk. For me, while the risk of an HIV infection is low (first, there aren't that many people who have it and second it is rather hard to get, at least for a man with no open wounds) , the consequences are dramatic, so that is not a risk I am willing to take. BBBJ has a negligible risk. Vaginal and anal sex are low-risk (for the man) but not negligible, so this isn't something I want to risk. (Also, for me, there is a big difference between a CBJ and a BBBJ, but not that much difference between covered and bare anal or vaginal sex.) Other diseases can be spread more easily, and are probably more common, but can be treated with antibiotics, so I'm comfortable with DATY, BBBJ, DFK etc. (I have never contracted an STD. I estimate my total number of mongering sessions at somewhere between 500 and 1000 (probably closer to 500). This does include a few sessions of uncovered vaginal sex, perhaps even with drug users, but in the days before AIDS. (Yes, I have been tested since then.)

Frankly, I don't fancy contact with the sperm from other punters, so uncovered vaginal or anal sex when mongering is not for me. (Even if they freshen up between sessions, they don't freshen up that well. It is easy to clean out the mouth, though.) Of course, for others, this is part of the attraction.

Some clubs do have their girls tested every few weeks. Most don't.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1440466]Some clubs do have their girls tested every few weeks. Most don't.[/QUOTE]But it's not compulsory. And, again, if you consider it necessary to test every few weeks, that means that there is a risk of infection every few weeks, so that after infection many will be exposed.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1440466]Some clubs do have their girls tested every few weeks. Most don't.

HB[/QUOTE]Does this include throat swabs?

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1440587]Does this include throat swabs?[/QUOTE]I don't know. I know about blood tests in some clubs.

HB

Obviously after reading the posts here and Sven's report combined with my inclination for DATY, BBBJ and rimming I would want to stay away from the AO contingent. As someone posted they can only clean so much and comingling with the last punter isn't something I'm looking for. How many non-AO girls are present on average? Also, would a mid-week morning or weekend morning be a better time to stop by for a visit?

After a very long absence I returned to FKK 40. There have been lots of changes in the layout. However, the most significant change is that it is now an AO Club and less expensive than
the other FKK's.

There was a guy there from San Francisco on a three week sex vacation to Germany who only visited bareback clubs and was screwing everything in sight. He said that the NRW clubs
were the best, but for Hessen FKK 40 was pretty good.

I say "to each his own" with regard to making the choice to go bareback. The compromise as I see it is in the looks of the women and the possibility of a Doctors visit for an infection. So far I have been to Dolce Vita and now to FKK 40 and in both clubs the women are a bit worn out. They would not compete Well in many other FKK's that employed younger more attractive women, so this is a good way to get paid.

I'll likely avoid them in the future just to stay on the safe side.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Mahaba; 1444759]After a very long absence I returned to FKK 40. There have been lots of changes in the layout. However, the most significant change is that it is now an AO Club and less expensive than

The other FKK's.

There was a guy there from San Francisco on a three week sex vacation to Germany who only visited bareback clubs and was screwing everything in sight. He said that the NRW clubs

Were the best, but for Hessen FKK 40 was pretty good.

I say "to each his own" with regard to making the choice to go bareback. The compromise as I see it is in the looks of the women and the possibility of a Doctors visit for an infection. So far I have been to Dolce Vita and now to FKK 40 and in both clubs the women are a bit worn out. They would not compete Well in many other FKK's that employed younger more attractive women, so this is a good way to get paid.

I'll likely avoid them in the future just to stay on the safe side.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Many thanks for your report [b]Mahaba[/b]. Some may not agree with the opinions which you express. Others like myself would be in complete agreement.

Thanks again.

[b]CD[/b]

So far it looks like I might head here for my first FKK experience, but I can't seem to find the actual address. My time is quite limited at the airport, just under 6 hours (so I figuring losing 2 hours in landing, check-in, boarding) I was going to taxi straight here and back to maximize time (special thanks to SvenFKK for inspiring me on this plan). However, when going to the website, their map page is broken, and even searching manually doesn't return results. I did fine something located at Voltastraße 4,63128 Dietzenbach, Germany. Which looks awfully like their address, but alas google maps tells me it's a telecommunications company. Anyone been here recently and could give a good address that I can loc off maps, or maybe they moved to a new address? Just want to prepare if the cab I get doesn't speak english and / or doesn't know where this FKK is located.

[QUOTE=Green1;1447491]So far it looks like I might head here for my first FKK experience, but I can't seem to find the actual address. My time is quite limited at the airport, just under 6 hours (so I figuring losing 2 hours in landing, check-in, boarding) I was going to taxi straight here and back to maximize time (special thanks to SvenFKK for inspiring me on this plan). However, when going to the website, their map page is broken, and even searching manually doesn't return results. I did fine something located at Voltastraße 4,63128 Dietzenbach, Germany. Which looks awfully like their address, but alas google maps tells me it's a telecommunications company. Anyone been here recently and could give a good address that I can loc off maps, or maybe they moved to a new address? Just want to prepare if the cab I get doesn't speak english and / or doesn't know where this FKK is located.[/QUOTE]Voltastrasse is the correct address. Switch off your translate.

[QUOTE=Green1;1447491]So far it looks like I might head here for my first FKK experience, but I can't seem to find the actual address. My time is quite limited at the airport, just under 6 hours (so I figuring losing 2 hours in landing, check-in, boarding) I was going to taxi straight here and back to maximize time (special thanks to SvenFKK for inspiring me on this plan). However, when going to the website, their map page is broken, and even searching manually doesn't return results. I did fine something located at Voltastraße 4,63128 Dietzenbach, Germany. Which looks awfully like their address, but alas google maps tells me it's a telecommunications company. Anyone been here recently and could give a good address that I can loc off maps, or maybe they moved to a new address? Just want to prepare if the cab I get doesn't speak english and / or doesn't know where this FKK is located.[/QUOTE]As Ralph T responded, that is the correct address. From Google map satellite view, you can see there is a driveway from Voltastrasse . The first building off Voltastrasse probably is the telecommunication company. The club is the last building on the right in the end of the driveway, facing K174. But you can't access K174 from the driveway. There is sign leading to the club, so don't worry.

[QUOTE=Green1;1447491]So far it looks like I might head here for my first FKK experience, but I can't seem to find the actual address. My time is quite limited at the airport, just under 6 hours (so I figuring losing 2 hours in landing, check-in, boarding) I was going to taxi straight here and back to maximize time Voltastraße 4,63128 Dietzenbach, .[/QUOTE]All you need to do is give the address you have, which is correct to the taxi driver.

Go and enjoy unloading inside some nice young pussies bare.

Just had another very enjoyable afternoon at the club, some improvement to the line up, outdoor area open to relax in, and one hut / shack to enjoy the AO fun. Cooling fans in the indoor rooms are great during these hot days. Went to Sharks for some relax time in the evening, will report later.

[QUOTE=Green1;1447491]I was going to taxi straight here and back to maximize time (special thanks to SvenFKK for inspiring me on this plan).[/QUOTE]Hey man,

Did you get there by taxi? How much is a ride from airport to there?

I'm pretty much interested to do the same in the 5 1/2 hours stopover in FRA.

Guys,

Excuse my ignorance. What exactly is AO you were talking about?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bub Alus; 1452111]Excuse my ignorance. What exactly is AO you were talking about?

Thanks[/QUOTE][b]A[/b]lles [b]O[/b]hne in German. Bareback to you and me

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1447816]Just had another very enjoyable afternoon at the club, some improvement to the line up[/QUOTE]Can second that. I was there a couple of weeks back and was impressed with the new faces. I had sessions with Nina and Lori as well as my customary one with Ina.

Nice lineup with 20+ women working. Many familiar faces from Venus, Ara & Grim. Not an outstanding lineup, but solid. Both front desk ladies seem to be on the rag.

Since this is the only AO place in the Frankfurt area, the place was packed all day. The club & women must be making a killing. No real food. Apples, bananas, cake & some crappy sausages that came out of Medusa's ass. I ran into a interesting gentleman from New Jersey who works in Frankfurt.

Lucky guy.

He, don't forget that the crappy food here is quite a step above what you get in the other RTC's (which is pretty much nothing at all). I was there Tuesday and after the happpy hour rush died down, it was fairly quiet. I spent almost an hour being molested by Michaela (helas not the teenie Michaela that used to be in Venus) , because she was bored and there were hardly any men (I had already been with her, so no way that she was looking for a session) ; as soon as new clients arrived, I was asked to take a hike.

But I agree that the line up is ok, but not particularly great. Villa Venus is usually better. Also felt that way more 15 minute sessions happened than in the other clubs.

I visited last Monday afternoon. As soon as I entered I was told I had to choose option 1, 2 or 3. I was allowed to give a quick look to pics and went for the 3 sessions for 90 + 35 entrance option.

The pics portrayed 16 girls, which I don't know if were really present, I didn't bother to check in my few hours of stay. Eventually I found out 10 were AO providers and 6 were not.

The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.

I was surprised to find out that I couldn't spot not 3, but even 1 that I would consider easy overwhelming best choice. I mean that nearly all the girls were at level, I could have chosen any without being visually satisfied, but I couldn't have regretted the choice because I couldn't see a better one. Blindfolding or lucky draws could be applied. No monsters, no outstanding ones either, all solid 5s in one way or another.

After some 30 mins of indecision, I saw coming down the stairs Denisa, a short slim brunette with a pretty face, she was wrapped in a towel and we didn't have any language in common. I approached her before somebody else could take her, there must have been some other 15 punters.

Unfortunately without towel I could see the devastating effects of 2 pregnancies on her belly, bum, etc. After one minute of no good BBBJ I just switched to fuck, some 2-3 mechanic positions, we were out well before the 30 mins.

The second one was Dana, if not the best looking not far from that. She could speak english, I told her I would have taken her for last, but since I couldn't spot a second prey I decided to go with her, I thought I could even repeat her.

Later on, I befriended a guy. He came out to be one of the bloody lurkers who take advantage of our beloved ISG without contributing, I revealed my identity and he didn't feel honoured to meet me, LOL! I told him off for that! How are you mate? I promised I would greet you from these pages, Zac, now you are world famous too, LOL! Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?

Back to Dana, things went more or less like with Denisa, with the difference that we could talk and her body was better, I did touch her a bit.

Final, nearly "forced", session was with Mirela. My time was to finish, I had to go back to Oase to pick up a friend and then go to airport. When I had decided to go with her somebody else took her away and I couldn't find a better candidate. I waited for her to come back but when she did I didn't like her that much. Since we could speak a common language I took her anyway. Action equal to the other 2 sessions, with the difference I was really in a hurry, rushed to finish and literally run away.

Considerations: all girls were somehow doable, the ones I was with were gentle, positive, did genuinely what they could (unfortunately very little) to please me without complaints or refusals, but their blowing skills were very low and the sex was really plain. I'm sorry to say I didn't like any of them, apart a bit Dana, so I didn't ask nor encourage any effusions, I didn't put any symphathy or passion in what I was doing, I just carried out the task, never stayed 1 minute more for a word (actually nor they seemed to want to, also because the rooms were in high demand). I don't know if they could perceive that I was there "forcedly", I hope not. I felt I was really just using their pussies as an apart piece of their body, a sensation that I don't experience often, or not to the extent of this time, which made me feel somehow bad. I always express some sincere satisfaction and appreciation to a girl making me have a troubleless orgasm, wether with a smile, words or caresses, this time I don't think I did it, or not particularly evidently at least, and they would anyway had deserved some gratification.

About the food, there was something, not better identified, and could even be edible, but I just got a banana, my first meal in an AO club so far.

Greetings,

EG

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469292]The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.

I was surprised to find out that I couldn't spot not 3, but even 1 that I would consider easy overwhelming best choice. No monsters, no outstanding ones either, all solid 5s in one way or another.

After some 30 mins of indecision, I saw coming down the stairs Denisa, a short slim brunette with a pretty face, she was wrapped in a towel and we didn't have any language in common. I approached her before somebody else could take her, there must have been some other 15 punters.

Unfortunately without towel I could see the devastating effects of 2 pregnancies on her belly, bum, etc.

The second one was Dana, if not the best looking not far from that. She could speak english, I told her I would have taken her for last, but since I couldn't spot a second prey I decided to go with her, I thought I could even repeat her.

Later on, I befriended a guy. He came out to be one of the bloody lurkers who take advantage of our beloved ISG without contributing, I revealed my identity and he didn't feel honoured to meet me, LOL! Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?

I didn't put any symphathy or passion in what I was doing, I just carried out the task, never stayed 1 minute more for a word (actually nor they seemed to want to, also because the rooms were in high demand).[/QUOTE]It's like getting 20 different people to describe an incident and they all give different accounts yet all manage to miss one crucial bit of detail.

There is no shortage of reports about this place but it's the first time that anyone has mentioned the lighting. Crucial that, because unless you can see properly what you are buying then you are most likely coming away with an unwelcome surprise. Also no one has mentioned before the possible restriction on repeating with a girl.

Which is why in my reports I describe absolutely everything down to how much loo paper there is in the toilet just in case that detail is of importance to someone. I wish others would do the same.

But still, even though I have never been to Dietz, I must question EastyG's opinion of the lighting. EastyG is a devout Arabella dweller and this place is like a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth. Is EastyG saying that Dietz is a lot worse than that? Both EastG and I have been to Villa V and there the lighting is a noticeably better than Arabs but EastG has never complained about the lighting in Arabs.

EastyG mentioned he went with Dana. Now there was a girl called Dana who I went with at Villa V, a small, short girl with a skinny body and a little bit of a cute face. I know that some of the girls are shuttled back and forth between these red carpet clubs so I wonder if it is the same girl. Unfortunately EastG did not go in for physical descriptions so it is difficult to say.

If anything EastG's account just serves to confirm to me that this place is no more of a stand out than any of the other RCC's. At other places I have been to there was never problems about getting or keeping a room so what seems to be confirmed here is that you get more punters here than at other clubs but with not necessarily any better girls. Also if there is a restriction on repeating with a girl then this probably reflects the fact that there are lots of guys but few above average girls and they want to prevent guys from hogging the do'able girls. So is it worth the detour especially when there are no similar clubs in Frankfurt to combine with on a trip (probably an issue in itself)?

It seems to me that the only reason that this place gets much more forum space than it's sibling clubs is clearly because Frankfurt is a much more popular destination than Dusseldorf. Also these Frankfurt visitors are likely to be business men who at least own a laptop and are eloquent enough to string two words together unlike the lurkers who are attracted to the NRW bargain basement bareback clubs and have no qualms about just relying on feeding off the scraps of information that fall from the table.

[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1469311]It's like getting 20 different people to describe an incident and they all give different accounts yet all manage to miss one crucial bit of detail.

There is no shortage of reports about this place but it's the first time that anyone has mentioned the lighting. Crucial that, because unless you can see properly what you are buying then you are most likely coming away with an unwelcome surprise. Also no one has mentioned before the possible restriction on repeating with a girl.

Which is why in my reports I describe absolutely everything down to how much loo paper there is in the toilet just in case that detail is of importance to someone. I wish others would do the same.

But still, even though I have never been to Dietz, I must question EastyG's opinion of the lighting. EastyG is a devout Arabella dweller and this place is like a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth. Is EastyG saying that Dietz is a lot worse than that? Both EastG and I have been to Villa V and there the lighting is a noticeably better than Arabs but EastG has never complained about the lighting in Arabs.

EastyG mentioned he went with Dana. Now there was a girl called Dana who I went with at Villa V, a small, short girl with a skinny body and a little bit of a cute face. I know that some of the girls are shuttled back and forth between these red carpet clubs so I wonder if it is the same girl. Unfortunately EastG did not go in for physical descriptions so it is difficult to say.

If anything EastG's account just serves to confirm to me that this place is no more of a stand out than any of the other RCC's. At other places I have been to there was never problems about getting or keeping a room so what seems to be confirmed here is that you get more punters here than at other clubs but with not necessarily any better girls. Also if there is a restriction on repeating with a girl then this probably reflects the fact that there are lots of guys but few above average girls and they want to prevent guys from hogging the do'able girls. So is it worth the detour especially when there are no similar clubs in Frankfurt to combine on a trip (probably the heart of the issue in itself)?

It seems to me that the only reason that this place gets much more forum space than it's sibling clubs is clearly because Frankfurt is a much more popular destination than Dusseldorf. Also these Frankfurt visitors are likely to be business men who at least own a laptop and are eloquent enough to string two words together unlike the lurkers who are attracted to the NRW bargain basement bareback clubs and have no qualms about just relying on feeding off the scraps of information that fall from the table.[/QUOTE]I was Dietzenbach this Tuesday. Not so many punters on that day, so getting a room was never a problem (I was there from 9pm to about 11. 30). I have been to this club a few times, mostly before it went AO. I have never felt that lighting was an issue here. Certainly there is no natural light, I. E. No windows, so that clearly affects peoples perception of the quality or level of lighting, but it probably varies from person to person. I was able to see the girls just fine, including from a distance.

Regarding the line up, Tuesday was not the best I have seen, maybe only two 8's, but the rest no better than 6. Too many overweight. I have certainly seen better here, so I figured I just picked a bad night. Sessioned with Mirelle (a bit more weight than I would normally go for) , but she performed solidly, good blow job. When it came to sex she just licked her pussy and was about to climb straight onto me, so it does seem kind of weird having to stop the girl and ask her to put on a condom (which she had no problem doing) , not that I wasn't tempted to just let her jump straight on, put AO is still not something I do all that often. 2nd session was with Vicki (Bulgarian / Turkish) , who is one of the non-AO girls (and one of the best looking that night). I first sessioned with her two years ago, so she was there long before AO became to norm. She did however perform a very good CIM to finish, which at no extra cost, is one of the biggest benefits of coming to this club.

All in all, I still like this place. Pricing is clear and simple, so there are no worries about what a visit is going to cost you, and with extras included, it can make it much cheaper than the big FKK's. I just would have liked to have seen a better line up, particularly regarding looks, but then I tend to like slim and younger ones, which I have seen many times here, but just not that night.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1469292]Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?[/QUOTE]It is true. Not the same girl twice on your card. But if you buy 2 (3) sessions you can have a third (fourth) session with one the girls you've been with and pay 40€ cash to the reception.

HB

Myrrh,

You are becoming my guardian angel, LOL! I'm glad you appreciate my reports and opinions from wherever I go. I've read about your A* in english and english literature, are you a publisher and follow me to offer me to write a book for you? Ahahahahah.

Ok, regarding your questions:

If you find the club I've visited as many as 3 times "a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth", then, should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.

Dana is tall, slim, has a beautiful face, but little saggy tits, some stretchmarks, she's a mother too, not too firm body, she is not too bad but not too good, anyway the best session I had in this club and probably the best choice possible also in looks. She said she worked in Mondial before.

I've seen the Vicky mentioned by QW123, I'd say she had the best body, proportionate and firm looking, but I couldn't see her well from behind. Also, she had a non inviting expression printed all the time on her face. She was the first one I tried to approach and I found out that we had no common languages, that she couldn't get rid of that bad expression and that she wouldn't do AO. That's how I found out that not all girls perform it. Eventually Dana explained to me that the girls on the upper line (6) didn't, she said it was also written, but in a german I couldn't understand. I went there for AO, and I couldn't have been able to do anything if that hadn't been available, the same concept that worked for my VVenus visit, with the difference that up there blowing was quite good.

As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, this club should invite him! :-)

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469632]If you find the club I've visited as many as 3 times "a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth", then, should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.

That's how I found out that not all girls perform it. Eventually Dana explained to me that the girls on the upper line (6) didn't, she said it was also written, but in a german I couldn't understand. Eventually I found out 10 were AO providers and 6 were not.

As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, this club should invite him! .[/QUOTE]Well at least two good things have come out of your report. The lighting thing and the no repetition (subject of course to the 'Hessen Bub' rule). The fact that 6 girls there out of the 16 did not do AO suggests that this place is not quite there yet alongside the fully fledged AO red carpet clubs.

Also I thought you were a multi-linguist? How comes you didn't understand a sign saying 'Kein alles ohne' or whatever it is in German that they write on those photos. Even a ' I think the rest of the world must speak English' English guy like myself can understand that!

But I still cannot work out the logistics of this place.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1447816]Just had another very enjoyable afternoon at the club, some improvement to the line up, outdoor area open to relax in, and one hut / shack to enjoy the AO fun.[/QUOTE]So they have doors to an outside area, which suggests this place is on the ground floor, but no windows?

Also,

[QUOTE=Mister Dante; 1429256]Shower, another soda, and back to the couches where I just sat and took in the sights. As an American where sex is taboo and mongering horrible, seeing it put out on display as normal blew my mind! One lucky dude was getting his dick sucked on the back couch, while another was getting wacked off across from me. I thought I had died and gone to heaven.

Based on previous posts, I wanted to give Milena a try, but she had been in high demand the whole time I was there. Finally, I tracked her down and we chatted a bit. Her English was pretty good and I was really digging the dirty vibe she was laying down. Her hands started wandering and then she pulled back the towel and started paying homage to the ol' flag pole with a very skilled mouth. Suddenly, I realized something. I was sitting right across from the front desk where thekenfrau and three or four girls were chatting amongst themselves. Out in the open, getting my dick sucked by a hot blonde. I watched people pass by, some stopping to smile and I can only imagine the grin on my face. She led me to a room where she continued her oral minstrations. Now, the real reason I went for Milena is that I read she rims which is right up my back alley (so to speak). So she's still going to town on my shaft and balls when I exclaim,"Shit, lick my ass!" She suddenly stops, backs up and says,"What?" I suddenly feared that either (1) this is the wrong Milena who licks ass (2) its the same Milena and the report was wrong [I didn't read the offerings at the bar which was my fault] or (3) me asking her to freaked her out. Thankfully, she just grinned after a few seconds and said she would, but only if I gave her a creamy reward. Which I did. Which she received gratefully.[/QUOTE]So Dante seemed to have got off on the fact that others from at least a few feet away were watching the public show of affection that the girl was giving him. Which suggests that the lighting in this place is of some adequacy. EastyG is the only one to complain about it so far. Maybe Easty forgot his contact lenses that day or suffered from a temporary bout of night blindness whilst he was in the club.

Anyway Dante's description of Milena's skills I found interesting. Although some clubs have signs saying specializes in anal or schluken, I have never seen a sign saying that a girl specialises in 'tossing the salad' not that I would know what that meant in German. Yes, there are some girls who say that they 'do everything' but they react badly when they find their mouths full of your protein shake and can't wait to spit it out, so it turns out that they don't really do everything. Also so far no girl in any of these clubs have allowed their tongues to drift south of that 'de-militarized zone' between my balls and anus. If many of these girls don't like the taste of the tadpoles that come out of your pole then how are they going to enjoy eating the shit right out of your ass?

A girl thoroughly tossing your salad and then swallowing every ml of your man juice is about as good as it gets. If most of the girls offered this then I probably wouldn't bother with bareback sex and all of the risks that it involves in order to get that extra thrill that I am looking for, which I find that vanilla (covered) sex fails to provide.

Apart from hyperbolic exaggerations, meant to be for a laughter, I would insist on my initial version: lights are low, it's not dark, you won't stumble on an obstacle, you will see if there is someone, but it's a sort of cavern badly cheaply enlightened. The place is relatively big, I'd say the lounge room is a little bigger than VV's, without columns, all open "sight". There is a simple door to enter, food is half a meter inside on your left on a little table, centimeters after you have access to toilet, showers area (with a sauna I think) , and lockers, I don't remember who is on the right and who is on the left, both have small windows. Attached to the entrance of one of them you have the bar counter, in front of it stairs to rooms. Then there is this wide area with the sofas and some rooms on the left side. The lights are few and weak, small, coming from some sort of abatjours placed in corners and between sofas by walls, I don't remember about the ceiling and if there are lights around sofas in the center of the hall. On the opposite side of entrance there is a door, it was open, with sort of blinds (!) , going to a small garden. The lounge has no windows at all.

"In a german I couldn't understand" means literally what I wrote, LOL! For once that I'm precise, correct and really writing what I mean and meaning what I write, in a simple english without excuses or google translation! LOL! Of course I'd understand "Ich mache alle" "alles ohne" and the other expressions you've read in the clubs you visited in NRW. Simply, they used different words and expressions, I didn't bother to ask or check because I took for granted all girls were AO. I assumed those were specifications about anal, swallowing, etc. Those words were added up by pencil, nearly attached to the ones written by pen ink, with words not written straight but going up and down, and in cursive letters, not capital ones, I think not even a german could read them! And light didn't help!

Have I been more clear now, in describing a place we all know you'll never visit? ;-)

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469674]I would insist on my initial version: lights are low, it's not dark, you won't stumble on an obstacle, you will see if there is someone, but it's a sort of cavern badly cheaply enlightened. The lights are few and weak, small, coming from some sort of abatjours placed in corners and between sofas by walls, I don't remember about the ceiling and if there are lights around sofas in the center of the hall.

Have I been more clear now, in describing a place we all know you'll never visit? .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469632]should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EastGoing;1469292]The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.[/QUOTE]I guess it is not a good idea to ask questions about a place that could possibly be answered by visiting the website yourself. Attached is a picture from their website which shows the inside of Dietz. What is on offer there does seem to be easily distinguishable in that photo. But maybe when EastyG visited they had a bad lighting day or maybe that cameraman was using his 'night vision' lenses, ha, ha, LOL.

Anyway you are right that I currently have no intention to visit based on evidences so far. The one good thing about this place is that you do get lots of (mostly) coherently written reports about the place on this forum. Unlike Villa Venus or FKK Verena where the chronic lack of information meant that I had little alternative but to go and see for myself what it was really like, and ended up disappointed.

There is no need to make that mistake with this place.

It has been mentioned before that everything that this club provides can be obtained at a few other clubs in the NRW probably for cheaper. Most of the other RCC clubs charge 30 euros for the entry and for each girl session whereas this place charges 40 euros.

If you go to one of the clubs in NRW and there aren't any good girls that day then you can always skit across to another club. Not so with this club as it is the only one of its type in the region. Your only choice would probably to go to one of the FKK's where 40 euros wouldn't even get you a half finished hand job.

Also this place is 20km train ride out of Frankfurt and then another 1km on foot.

Nothing that I have read so far suggests to me that it is worth the detour or the trek, not even if it was guaranteed that the salad tossing, sperm schluckening Milena would be there and readily on call.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1469632]As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, [b]this club should invite him![/b] :-)[/QUOTE]

Strongly agree. Other clubs also should. But they don't. :(

HB

[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1469699]. Most of the other RCC clubs charge 30 euros for the entry and for each girl session whereas this place charges 40 euros.[/QUOTE]

Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.

[QUOTE=Qw123;1470031]Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.[/QUOTE]Before 12 entrance also is only 15€.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1470078]Before 12 entrance also is only 15€.

HB[/QUOTE]Quite a lot of reports on German boards. One frequent poster responded to question of best time to visit. His response was early afternoon as the 15 euro entry brought in too many punters.

[QUOTE=Qw123;1470031]Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.[/QUOTE]The website mentions the €30 entrance on one page but €35 on another.

It also mentions the 1x40, 2x70 and 3x90.

So I am assuming that you pay the entrance and then buy one of these tickets.

If so then it is more expensive than other similar NRW clubs which charge €30 entry and then €30 per girl unless you enter with the €15 door charge.

Some of these NRW clubs have been known to use a 1x60, 2x90 and 3x110 ticket arrangement in the past but then the entrance fee is included in the price of the ticket you buy.

If you are early, it is cheaper than most NRW RTCs. 105 vs 110 for three sessions (and in NRW it sometimes is 120 for three as well). New clubs like Alina and Verena are playing around with rates and are often cheaper still, but that is probably temporary. If you stay a few hours after the happy hour ends, you will see the club get emptier and at 2/3 pm it can be very quiet with guys.

Yes, but you might be the type of guy who likes to only book one session, see what the girls are like and how you feel as the day progresses and then pay as you go. If so then you may be better off with the NRW clubs where you only pay €30 for each additional girl rather than €40.

1 girl (55 vs 60), 2 girls (95 vs 90), 3 girls (135 vs 120), etc.

In NRW that also depends on the size of the line up / mood of the theke lady. If they have a 60/90/110 day, you pay 60 for the single session and 60 more if you want a second round (I know sometimes you get by with only paying 30, but 'officially' you should buy a new 1 session card).

As my previous reports show, I had very good experiences with Sylvie, Milena and Ina, OK ones with Tina and Sonia. Vicky was really bad. Andrea does anal but we didn't hit it off (it was OK). My recent (last 2 years) visits:

Sylvie, Tina, Milena.

Ina, Sonia, Vicky.

Ina, Milena, Andrea.

Ina, Michaela, Tina.

I phoned on Saturday and learned that Ina would be there Sunday but Milena wouldn't. Since meeting some new girls is OK if at least one session is guaranteed to be good, I went on Sunday and booked 3 sessions. While looking at the pictures (11 AO and 3 normal girls: the AO have "mache alles" on the picture (perhaps "außer." for exceptions like anal) and have a red heart while the normal ones just list extras) I saw Ina and immediately went upstairs with her. As I and others have reported before, she is good. A good session and I like her natural appearance (little or no makeup, no tattoos, piercings etc) and the fact that she isn't too thin. For a while now, extras have been included in the price. After some massage, I then licked her (arse and pussy) until she (almost?) came, then fucked for a while. Then I let her blow me-she does DT-and finished with a CIM. Normally I don't like to fuck and then be sucked: my usual modus operandi, whether at a Partytreff or with my wife, is to be sucked to completion or fuck and come in her pussy, perhaps after some sucking as foreplay. (If the girls wants to come-my wife most times and occasionally at Partytreffs-I always lick her first.) On the other hand, with only 3 shots, I want to make the best of each one and CIM is better than coming in a condom, but I get in some fucking as well. All in all a good session, but somehow with a bit less magic than in the past. (Maybe because I have been thinking about my next visit to Ute at Mettmann.)

I had read good things about Michaela in German forums and Ina also recommended her. Like Ina (and all my sessions at Dietzenbach) , a non-AO-girl, though she does do CIM. She is easy to spot because she wears glasses. Not really my type: thin, makeup, piercing, tattoos. However, reports were good. She started off affectionate downstairs and continued when we went upstairs. However, she wouldn't let me lick her arsehole. Also, once I suggested we depart from what seemed to be her regular programme, she wasn't as nice. Unlike the other two girls, she didn't want to be fucked doggy (with the others, it was mish then doggy). Otherwise, the same programme as with Ina, but less magic. When she started sucking me I said I wanted her to swallow, since this is listed on her picture as an extra. She said that she couldn't. I reminded her it said so on her picture. She said OK as long as it wasn't too much sperm. I said I had just come so it wouldn't be too much. I came in her mouth, but I'm not sure if she actually swallowed. In any case, after such a conversation the magic is gone anywhere. Fazit: OK if you let her lead.

There were now 10 AO and 5 normal pictures. Andrea had arrived, who does anal but we didn't hit it off last time. Also a Vicky who was probably a different one, advertized as swallowing, but I didn't want to take any chances. So, I opted for Tina who was good but cut the time a few minutes short. Tina is from Indonesia, has very long hair and is older than the other girls. She is known for her massage, which I mentioned before we went upstairs. I also had massage from Ina and Michaela, but Michaela's wasn't too good. Tina gives a good massage. Then, more or less the same programme as with Ina, though having come twice already I could last a lot longer. It was really nice fucking her doggy. Her blow job was good, and I came in her mouth, but my impression was that she has only started doing this to compete with the other girls since extras have been with no extra charge. She then went and brushed her teeth (!) but came back for some massage and cuddling. Fazit: a bit off the beaten path, but recommended.

The girls also told the Thekenfrau what extras they performed and it was written on my list. I don't know if this influences their payment.

Fazit: Not the best place in the world, but if one wants to spend not too much money, it is the best place in the Frankfurt area. Ina, Tina and Milena are highly recommended. (Apparently Sylvie isn't there anymore. I don't know about Sonia (Croatian (most are Romanian or Bulgarian) , big tits (D) but small arse) who was also good but not great.

First stop: FKK Dietzenbach. I had read some good recent reports on this place. It also opened early (10AM) and had a 15 Euro entry before noon. Its close to the airport, about 20 min drive. Diezenbach is half way between a Partytreff (basically all you can fuck for a fixed price) and a regular FKK where you pay per fuck. Here you pay per fuck but decide how many you want up front and it costs Euro 50 for one. 70 for two and 110 for 3 fucks. The place was easy to find with the GPS. I walked up and rang the bell and was let in. Basic English was spoken at reception but very little by the girls. I opted for the two pack. They give you wristband with a card and after the session you and the girl go to the desk and they write the girls name on your card.

Dietzenbach is also known as an 'AO' club. At the reception there are photos of all the girls working that day and what they do and don't offer. Almost all of them offered BBFS, some offered anal as well. At 11:30AM there were probably about a dozen girls. I was surprised how cute some of them were. There were no 'Optikfucks' like at the big FKK clubs but they were not all porky MILFs either. Most girls had great bodies, tight, slim spinner types. Most were from Bulgaria or Romania and almost all were in their 20s. Many had the sharp facial features typical of that part of the world. There are several couches around the room and the girls sit one to a couch. They don't really approach the punters but the may smile or make eyes at you. When you choose one you go sit next to her. She is all over you in a NY minute with her mouth and hands. DFK and BBBJ begins on the couch. After a few minutes you go the room. I fucked two girls there: First was Nelly, a blonde Bulgarian. She was a little curvy but had a cute face. She delivered a nice session full RBGFE plus BBFS and CIP. I had to rest and nap for awhile. One thing to note, these lower end clubs really don't provide much food or drink other than a soda machine and some fruits and light snack food. So don't go on an empty stomach.

The second session was with Alex, a tall blonde Romanian who was by far the best looking girl there. In fact she could have held her own at Oase or World. But there she was, in an AO club. And in spite of her being the best looker, her service was as good as anyones. The same service as Nelly and I left my second load inside her.

I visited FKK Dietzenbach yesterday. It was a short stay in the club because we had to rush to a meeting afterwards. That iss why I choose to have two rounds.

The entry price is now 35 Euro and not 30 Euro, but 15 Euro happy hour still exists.

As we came at 3 pm, we pay 35 + 70 for 2 girls, the total damage is 105 Euro.

I have visited this FKK Aldi, many years ago, before the club return in an AO club. I remember that, in 2009, I also paid once, a total damage of 105 Euro for two short rounds and entry (25 Euro happy hour and 2 x 40 Euro short session) , so not much change. Those sessions were 15 or 20 min short and doesn't include every extra. Now, this is a different story, every girl suppose to do much of the extra for not extra money, and the sessions suppose to take 30 min long (but wasn't in reality)

My bussiness colleague and I, we were there at 3 pm. There were 15 girls in the club and all has photos and description in the bar. When hearing this in an AO club, my colleague had some worries and wanted to not walk in but one of the girl who speaks English says there are some non AO girl which he can choose from. Then he decided to take one shot.

He checked the three available non AO girls but he wanted young girls, he ended up doing a AO girl (Anna or Hanna-RO) with condom. He says he had a nice time with her. Maybe, I try her in the future, a bit too slime for my taste.

I, on the other hand started with a Romanian and finished with a Bulgarian.

Michalea.

This girl is recommended in one of the previous post. Actually, she is a real FKK material, young and tight body, face is ok, body is nice. I explained her my needs; DFK, slow and tender sex and CIM. She doesn't do CIM, but the rest is ok. DFK good, BBBJ ok, care to balls, then nipples ok, everything starts good, but soon, she was tired, tried me to rush to completion, I finished by hand after 20 min, plus 10 more minutes massage and sleeping together.

Nelly.

Blond Bulgarian. Well built material, just my type. Actually I was waiting Alex, but she was always busy. So I choose Nelly, She has also similar body type of Alex. Everything with Nelly was good, she does real DFK, really deep, Deep Throat, BBBJ really nice, care for the shaft and kiss your body. But she does only a few position. She was also tired after a few minutes of fuck and she says she can't take it any more. Completion to CIM, she didn't swallowed.

FAZIT: Now, a nice setting with all the extras included in the price. At 3 pm, the rush of happy hour entry has gone and it was quite by the numbers of punters, after 05. 30 pm, it started to be packy, again. There are a bunch of doable girls and also some ugly to fuck dogs, but you can choose between them and make your best shot. If AO is your thing, the value is good. If you are using condom, and you like pretty girls, you may prefer to go Mainhattan or Oase which is not that far away.

Why I go there even I do with condom? Because I like to do other extras such as DFK, CIM, sometimes anal for free of charge.

I suppose to go there, today also, for a short visit. But then I realise the 3 October is a public holiday in Germany. I hope there is no hordes of punters coming to the club. I had a short list of my favorite girls, now. I wonder whether I can buy two cards of 3 shots. Yesterday, a girl told me, if you finish the card, you pay 40 Euro for every next round. But according to a previous report of Hessen Bub, you can buy a second card of 3 sets. RTC connaiseurs, please advice!

Today was my second consecutive day in FKK Dietzenbach. Yesterday, went there by a car, easy to find with sat nav, easy and secure parking area.

Today, shit things happen and don't have a car, so went there doing public transport. From FRA airport, you could take S9 to FRA Hbf and then S2 to Dietzenbach. The journey takes circa 1 hour and the walking distance is not 5 or 10 min, I would say 15 to 20 min, if you are with a troley like myself. One way cost 4, 20 Euro something, all day ticket cost 8. 30 Euro. The taxi fare should be 38 Euro one way from the FKK to the airport or vice versa. Don't know the costs, nor timing from HBF to fkk, but could be the half of it.

Hi,
I am a Canadian with Latin roots, and am not blonde and blue eyed. Dark hair, dark skin, could be Italian, Spanish, even Turkish or Arab or Indian. Would I have a problem getting in? I am very well dressed and quite good looking.

In my 30s. I usually go to FKKs alone. Will post a report once I am there. Have been to Oase, Artemis without any problems.

Cheers

Never heard of anybody having been rejected at FKK Dietzenbach. Most guys are Germans and older, but there's Turkish and other nationalities as well.

HB

Was in Dietzenbach again on Thursday (it was a public holiday here).

Arrived before 12am, so cost was €15 + 3 sessions = €105.

First was Michaela, slim, attractive, Romanian (like nearly all in this club at the moment), 20 years old. A fine performance, but since it was my first session, then it was relatively short.

Then I was with Dana (24, tall, dark, also slim, looks kinda Turkish, but is Romanian). Great kisser, top performer (I was also with her in my visit last week) , would definitely recommend her.
This time she was wearing stocking and suspenders, whereas I prefer them naked.

Finally I went with Alex (false blond. 24, reasonably slim). Great performer, I think she has one of the best reputations in this club (when I mentioned her good performance to the Theke as she signed my card, she agreed that many other men said the same). Offered me her full range of services, including Anal & CIM, which I accepted. In fact my first ever Anal in a German FKK (price has always put me off). She worked extremely hard to get me off at the end with CIM (which I think she even swallowed, not sure). So for a performance that would have cost me €200 at any normal Frankfurt FKK (€50 session, €50 CIM, €100 AV) cost just €30. Amazing value, great girl.

After this visit and my other one last week (where I met up with a board member who was trying the club for the first time) , in which I also enjoyed 3 good sessions with good looking girls, then this club remains a good option for the Frankfurt area. There are plenty of girls there I would not normally go with (typically just too overweight for me) , but there are usually enough ones I can take to make it worthwhile. I am just not keen on the AO thing (and just about all the ones I go for, i.e. the slimmer, younger ones, are AO girls) , so I tend to avoid DATY here now, even though I really like that. I wish there were more clubs like this in my area, whereas there are quite a few of them in the NRW area. Since the club is often busy, I wonder why they do not open more here using a similar formula?

I think one board member posted here that the girls are older than the other Frankfurt FKK's, whereas one german guy I was chatting too yesterday complained that the girls there were too young for him!

I was also there, the same day, the 3rd of October, in the early afternoon. That was my second day in a row, in this club. Pity that I didn't meet you.

I had lots of fun with Alex, Selena and Helena. Will report soon.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1479499]Hi,

I am a Canadian with Latin roots, and am not blonde and blue eyed. Dark hair, dark skin, could be Italian, Spanish, even Turkish or Arab or Indian. Would I have a problem getting in? I am very well dressed and quite good looking.

In my 30s. I usually go to FKKs alone. Will post a report once I am there. Have been to Oase, Artemis without any problems.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I have seen lots of non German looking guy inside. I have also a dark skin. They only interested in your money, not your race.

Second day in FKK Dietzenbach.

Today is my second day in a row in FKK Dietzenbach. Unlike the first day, there is no more a wingman, I will play solo, and there is no more wheels, I have to rely to public transport.

You may find my report on my first day of Dietzenbach here;

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach&p=1479297&viewfull=1#post1479297[/url]

Arrived the Banhhof Dietzenbach at 11. 00 am ish. The walk from there to FKK takes more or less 20 min with not so helpful a cabin trolley, I have to climb some stairs in order to cross the rail station (I will return FRA Int, to take my flight back home, that night, and the overlay is a tight schedule).

Arrived at the club at 11. 30 am sharp. Paid 105 Euro (90 for 3 sessions + 15 Euro entrance). As this is a public holiday in Germany (3rd of October) , I had fears that could be packed. The first flight of punters was already leaving the club, but because the happy hour, the ratio was always not so good. But I was in a tight schedule, so I should be wise in order to fit in this three sessions, within my 4 hours stay in the club. I had located the best targets the day before so being sharp could be a wisdom. I didn't know that Qw123 was also there, the same day, exactly the same time, otherwise it could be a nice team up maybe.

After showering and packing my money to the small locker, I saw Alex, the girl I missed yesterday. She is one of the good looking girl in the club, an 8 in my book. I immediately sat next to her. I told her how I was searching and waiting for her the day before. Laila, another English speaking girl told that is true. I told Alex I am addicted for her. Alex was smiling and I guess she liked those compliments. We started a heavy DFK on the couch just in front of thekefrau. After five minutes of DFK, she started to gently wank my little friend and then start a nice blowjob there. After a few minutes, she asked whether we should go for a room. Yes, of course. I was waiting for this one.

Alex.

In the room, upstairs, she kept the same momentum of GFE, kissing, cuddling, OMG, she kisses real good. The session was going so good with everything is on the menu so I asked her how is it possible to extend a session, she reply I have to pay an extra of 40 Euro to extend the session to an hour. Of course, I accepted this offer. Who am I to decline a blond hottie who is ready to please a man, and in an hour, two pops allowed, so I released my first pop, in HJ and BJ combination with CIM (reply to Qw123, Alex don't swallow, by the way). I asked whether anal is also in the menu, she says we may try (because of the size) to do it in the second round, what a fantastic girl, she does everything, even AO anal. After I finished for the first round, she says we should give a 10 min of pause. Ok, I also need to rest and replenish. But during the pause, I offered her a back massage, she fetch an oil for that.

After the massage, we started again to fondle with soft kisses, then real deep DFK. This bring my fellow friend again back to life. She started to rob than BBBJ, this girl knows how to do a deep throat. I am quite close to cum in her mouth so I should stop her (yes, after no so much time before the first pop) and asked for another condom (normally she an AO girl, but pity that I don't do AO, I wish I can!). Again, a very nice session with all my GFE needs fulfilled. I asked whether we should try the back door as well, she says yes, but I don't have much time. I decided not to intrude analy and release a load on the air with a mighty hand job. When I was close to reach the completion, I signal her I am ready, but she misunderstood and jumped to receive it on CIM. Waisted to see my own sperm in the air because she had all of them, till the last drop in her mouth than in a paper. Wow, what an hour and what a good way to start a day. Normally, it is real hard for an old man like me, to shoot two rounds in an hour but as Alex was hot and as it was the first session of the day, this could be possible.

We went downstairs and I paid 40 Euro extra to the thekefrau directly, not to the girl (but Alex received two tokens instead of one. When you visit Dietzenbach, if you see Alex, don't hesitate to book her, because in rush hour, she is way busy. She is a tall blond Rumanian girl. Next time, she will be on my favorite list.

I had enough GFE with Alex. Too much GFE and DFK that I am no longer in needs and I had a sore tongue now. Now, I have two more rounds here in this club and today I am no longer in search of GFE but only in search for looks (GFE not necessarily). Even this is possible both of them, Alex is a proof of that.

The extended session with Alex jeopardize my time schedule in order to catch the flight, so I should be wiser and aim to directly to the point. After a long break, (I really needed after an hour session with two pops) , I try to regenerate. During this recuparation time, I see a strange moment in this small FKK. A local guy arrive, bring a suitcase with him. There are some SM tools in his bag. Short after that, I saw Milena, taking the rope of this guy, and this strange guy was in 4 feet, doing the SM thing, like Milena is his master and the guy is Milena's watchdog. Milena brought the guy all over the lounge, she gave him orders and the poor guy was ready to oblige, he seems happy, though. She asked to lick the shoes of the girls and he complies. This take 5 min, all punters and girls laughing and looking very strangely to this event. I don't know how much token Milena is paid to do this job, but this should at least worth one or more sessions, realy a strange stuff. Since the beginning of my mongering carrier, I had more than 90 different clubs under my belt, I saw some SM rooms in some of them (especially swinger clubs have them) but never saw any one of them utilised. Now, in this small FKK, really strange moment of a lime time. Later, a girl told that this guy is crazy and is coming every week regularly here to do the same SM thing. Everybody has it own taste and its own debauchery.

After this uninvited show, I though it was time to restart to session, otherwise, either I would leave without poping the last one or I will not be able to catch the flight (Plan B, I might take two girls to the room, anytime I like, unless there is a shortage of nice looking girls). The guy / girl ratio was not so good, there were too many guy waiting in the couch. There were not many place to sit so the management brought some spare chairs from somewhere. The punters were numerous but they were reluctant to do zimme they were taking their times (maybe because of the 3rd October free day) , that is why I didn't had too much trouble to locate a nice looking girl and initiate.

Selena.

Yesterday, I saw Selena, another young, brunette Rumanian girl, which seemed with very sweet face to me. She had a bit of belly but face is beautiful, so I opted to find her and sat next to her. She was very happy, we immediately started to work, on the couch. She had a real nice DFK. BBBJ was very good, smooth, slurpy, not teethy. I really liked this girl, too. She was in full swing and full throttle that I guess we will continue the intercourse on the lounge. No, she stopped there, we went to a room, she asks should we go upstairs or the rooms near the lounge. There were a nice music from '80's and 90's. I was in a real fuck mood, so I wanted to be able to hear the music while fucking. (No Turkish or Arabic music in this club, I really liked this, I can't stand loud Turkish or Rumanian music in those RTC of NRW.

In the room, the service level was much more intense, true GFE, which I was no longer in search, but finds me anyhow. Selena was a nice girl, beautiful face, beautiful eyes, but bodywise, she is just a bit standart. I had enough fun in the room with her but I had the belief that if I reach a climax in this second session, I won't be able to regenerate to have a third session, even the fuck was nice with her, I faked orgasm.

When we go to theke, to write her name on my wristband, Selena told to the thekefrau I had a normal (with condom) session. The thekefrau wonder why am I doing this and tried to explain me that every special service is included in the price. I gently reply her that I know but I don't do AO (the same thing happened again in Grimberg, this shows how the thekefrau or management care for their customers) , but on the other hand I told the theke that Selena was a super girl, I thanked her.

After a shower. I watched again my watch, I still had an hour to reach the 15. 49 train from Dietzenbach bahnhof, so time to play. I am happy that I didn't finish in my previous session. I checked the lounge, now it was even packier. I saw Selena again, she says that she find one of the earing she lost during the session, I was glad, kissed her and checked the surrounding perimeter. She was telling in Rumanian to her girlfriend Helena (I just guess) that I am a nice guy. This Helena and also Isabella intrigued my attention the day before, but as there were not on my short list (which I prepared through the recent reports) I was hesitating to give a try. Helena is a 7. 5 and Isabella is an 8. 0 in my book, but Isabella was absent today, so opted for Helena. She was smiling and with an inviting attitude.

Helena.

Helena is a Rumaanian brunette. I sat next to her. I bet Selena, my previous girl, would envy but I don't care. Helena is also a nice GFE girl, but as Selena, she doesn't have even a basic knowledge of English. She started immediately deep french kissing me on the couch, then checking my friend. As I don't want to waist time, we went directly to a room on the same floor.

In the room, she was always inviting and true GFE continues, we started to be in mish, my little bare friend, was looking a way to enter. Now, it was not my brain, but my dick was ruling my empire. I started to plunged my bare cock into her wet pussy, she was hot and wet inside. Hop, suddenly, I stopped. Now, the brain win the war. I withdraw and asked for a condom. Helena was a bit surprised but fetch a gummi. After that, we continue the session in full swing. Those small rooms have a mirror unlike the room upstairs, I like watching the girls while I fuck them. Helena has a nice body shape. This is also a nice girl and unforgettable session. This time, I finished in the gummi while I am in a spoon position. As I didn't finished during the previous session, I realised that lots of sperm accumulated.

I am really happy to choose Helena. And I told that to the thekefrau that she was also a super wg, like the first two I have chosen. I donno whether the thekefrau get it or not. I guess in this club, your chance to hit and miss is lower than bigger clubs. You have the names on the reports, there are max two dozens girls on their pool, you can choose your girl wisely, and don't forget, mostly local punters go there, not much one time visitor tourist, so the service should be reliable.

FAZIT: That was not my first time in FKK Dietzenbach, but previous visits were enough ago, when this club is called FKK Aldi (not literaly) just for cheap prices. But the system, pricing and the whole line-up was totally different than. Nowadays, I had two consecutive daytime visit and I am quite happy what I get. Beside the ugly to fucks, there were enough good looking girls and the service level was fulfiling my expectation. According my visit long time ago to Villa Venus and Grimberg (December 2012 and March 2013) , FKK Dietzenbach has a better line-up, regarding the looks. I will check the latest situation in VV and Grimberg soon, so I will have an idea. But those info are not lasting long, the line-ups of those RTC changes so fast, so who cares, enjoy your time, we live once.

My total time was limited in both days, so I don't know the real male / female ratio. Wednesday afternoon till evening, it was quite and calm. Thursday in noon time (which is a public holiday) it was packy. So being there in noon time and wait till the hordes left could be much decent for next visit, if I had much longer stay in the club. This club is not possible to kill time, the only action there you should be doing is just fucking, no real wellness, no real food. I still didn't find out whether is it possible to buy a second three round card or not. I spent around 250 bucks and had five different girls, mostly long sessions. I believe I had enough fuck for my buck.

Bottom line, if you are in search of special service like AO, there is not much other choice in Hessen area (the club and girls must have a nice business model, here). The girls are nice and willing to fulfill your wishes. If you are mostly paying visit for standart service and you are after to opticfick, go to Hessen five, not to Dietzenbach. Me, on my case, I want to return if any opportunity arise. I like the girls and their service level. BTW, I saw Ina, Diana (glasses) and Milena, both days but I didn't initiated, there were enough younger and better looking girls nearby, but I may sample some of those old pots next time, if any shortage of good looking girls.

The price of FKK Dietzenbach is so amazingly inexpensive that decide to visit it next month.

The price on its official websites states that 1x40 2x70 3x90.

And I realize that you have to order different girls if you pay for 2x70 (two different girls) or 3x90 (three different girls) after reading many reports here.

I still have a question here.

If I pay for the 2x70, can I order two different girls at the same time and have a threesome (bang them at the same place and the same time)?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Creature2;1482145]Second day in FKK Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the fantastic reports [b]Creature2[/b]. Good to see that you continue to adventure in Germany!

I have added both reports to the Reports of Distinction Thread.

CD

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1482351]The price of FKK Dietzenbach is so amazingly inexpensive that decide to visit it next month.

The price on its official websites states that 1x40 2x70 3x90.

And I realize that you have to order different girls if you pay for 2x70 (two different girls) or 3x90 (three different girls) after reading many reports here.

I still have a question here.

If I pay for the 2x70, can I order two different girls at the same time and have a threesome (bang them at the same place and the same time)?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can spend your 2x70 on a single threesome, no problem.

[QUOTE=Creature2; 1482145]Second day in FKK Dietzenbach.

I didn't know that Qw123 was also there, the same day, exactly the same time, otherwise it could be a nice team up maybe.[/QUOTE]Send me a PM (any other board member can do the same) next time you head to the club, and since I live about 30 minutes from Dietzenbach, I may be able to join you.

[QUOTE=Qw123;1482380]Send me a PM (any other board member can do the same) next time you head to the club, and since I live about 30 minutes from Dietzenbach, I may be able to join you.[/QUOTE]Thank you Qw123, next time I will send you a pm. And sometimes, I post my whereabouts on Travel Announcement section.

By the way, you are very lucky being so close to Frankfurt area, you have many big clubs in this premeter.

[QUOTE=Capt Dan; 1482366]Thank you for the fantastic reports [b]Creature2[/b]. Good to see that you continue to adventure in Germany!

I have added both reports to the Reports of Distinction Thread.

CD[/QUOTE]Hi Capt Dan,

Thank you for your appreciation of my reports and thank you for ROD'ing them to the reports of distinction section.

And also thank you for those nice comments. I restarted to venturing through Germany, after a long interval. I hope I can keep the same momentum for doing some Germany visits. I hope we can team up sometime in the future, although I no longer visit big FKK, just seldomly. Haus Panthera will be on the to do list and maybe Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf).

Cheers.

C2

[QUOTE=Qw123;1482380]Send me a PM (any other board member can do the same) next time you head to the club, and since I live about 30 minutes from Dietzenbach, I may be able to join you.[/QUOTE]Did you also happen to see that S / M domina oriented punter? I guess he should be a regular guy.

The official websites of this club now shows that the entrance fee is 30 EUR (the website shows that the All-day rate is 29, 99 EUR).

So, I guess they cancel the 15 EUR special rate.

However, for people like me, who plan to visit this club in the afternoon or early evening, the entrance fee is now 30 EUR instead of the original 35 EUR.

"30 EUR Entrance fee + 90 EUR for three different girls" seems to be a great deal in Frankfurt area.

I can't wait to visit this club next month! (probably in the afternoon of November 11th)

One more question here, if I pay for the 3X90 card, can I use it for a threesome (bang the first girl and second girl at the same place and the same time) and then do the third girl later?

Do every girl in this club accept the threesome idea?

Your question has already been replied by QW123. Why don't you read the thread?

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1483477]Your question has already been replied by QW123. Why don't you read the thread?[/QUOTE]Yes, that was about taking a 2X70 card.

Now, with the entrance fee going down, I change my mind and decide to take the 3X90 card.

I wonder if this 3X90 rule still apply the threesome stuff.

I admit I didn't think clearly before I made my first question in my first thread.

I should have asked about the threesome question in both the 2X70 and the 3X90 situations in my first thread.

I am sorry for making too many silly threads and inconvenience.

I visited this place two weeks ago (on the day before the holiday). It was my first AO experience, and it was pretty fun. I did the 3x90 with Michaela, Alex, and some other girl- brunette, average sized breasts, kinda cute face, slight love handles, hair in a ponytail.

Two days ago, I felt a burning sensation when I took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Looked down to see a strange looking discharge, probably pus. Went to get tested, and I have gonorrhea. Took the meds, hopefully that will be the end of that.

Anyone who has seen those girls recently may want to get checked out.

[QUOTE=Creature2;1483153]Did you also happen to see that S / M domina oriented punter? I guess he should be a regular guy.[/QUOTE]No I missed that scene. I must have either been in a room, or asleep on one of the sofas.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1483530]Yes, that was about taking a 2X70 card.

Now, with the entrance fee going down, I change my mind and decide to take the 3X90 card.

I wonder if this 3X90 rule still apply the threesome stuff.

I admit I didn't think clearly before I made my first question in my first thread.

I should have asked about the threesome question in both the 2X70 and the 3X90 situations in my first thread.

I am sorry for making too many silly threads and inconvenience.[/QUOTE]I believe the web site is wrong regarding the entrance fee. It is €35, unless you arrive before 12am, or after 9pm, in which case the price is €15. The €30 price is the old entrance fee, I think they changed that a month or so ago.

The €5 increase has no affect on whether you can take two girls. That is always the case, in fact the girls like to do threesomes normally, it is often less work for the same money for them.

Just looked at the web site again, and they no longer mention the €15 cheaper entrance fee. Not sure what that means. I'll let you all know on my next visit if it still exists.

[QUOTE=Qw123; 1484025]I believe the web site is wrong regarding the entrance fee.

Just looked at the web site again, and they no longer mention the €15 cheaper entrance fee. Not sure what that means. I'll let you all know on my next visit if it still exists.[/QUOTE]That means that they cancelled the happy hour. It's 29, 99 EUR entrance fee all day now.

HB

[QUOTE=Cvangt; 1484019]I visited this place two weeks ago (on the day before the holiday). It was my first AO experience, and it was pretty fun. I did the 3x90 with Michaela, Alex, and some other girl- brunette, average sized breasts, kinda cute face, slight love handles, hair in a ponytail.

Two days ago, I felt a burning sensation when I took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Looked down to see a strange looking discharge, probably pus. Went to get tested, and I have gonorrhea. Took the meds, hopefully that will be the end of that.

Anyone who has seen those girls recently may want to get checked out.[/QUOTE]I'm not really a practitioner of AO style fun myself or a fan of FKK Dietzenbach but I would take with a large pinch of salt a report from a member with one single post to his name, who raises alarm and makes some serious alligations / charges against a number of ladies working in a particular club. Were the above statements made by a member in good standing, I might take some notice but not from a guy with one single solitary post.

CD

[QUOTE=Capt Dan; 1484267]I'm not really a practitioner of AO style fun myself or a fan of FKK Dietzenbach but I would take with a large pinch of salt a report from a member with one single post to his name, who raises alarm and makes some serious alligations / charges against a number of ladies working in a particular club. Were the above statements made by a member in good standing, I might take some notice but not from a guy with one single solitary post.

[b]CD[/b][/QUOTE]I understand your skepticism, and you may well be right.

On the other hand, it is prefectly possible that the story is true. But such things can happen as well after a BBBJ in any place. What is suspicious is why there is such a report for this club, and almost never from other more famous one.

I speculate that it makes people confortable thinking that such problems can only happen in so called Ao clubs, as it makes them feel safe indulging in BBBjs elewhere. Which of course it is not (safe).

Hello everyone,

This is my first post in the ISG and I'll certainly become very active from now on.

Just discovered this forum but already have been to brothels in Cologne, Paris, Brussels and Tokyo.

I'll be in Frankfurt (Dietzenbach) this Sunday and wanted to ask for your advice for the best girls for the following services :

1) session 1: Anal.

2) session 2: DT BBBJ & CIM.

3) session 3: Massage.

BTW does anyone know if there are good massage clubs (with BBBJ) or soapland in Frankfurt?

I have been to a soapland in tokyo recently and a MILF make me cum 3 times non stop without intercourse!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1485256]Hello everyone,

This is my first post in the ISG and I'll certainly become very active from now on.

Just discovered this forum but already have been to brothels in Cologne, Paris, Brussels and Tokyo.

I have been to a soapland in tokyo recently and a MILF make me cum 3 times non stop without intercourse!

Thanks[/QUOTE]Since you have had such a good experience in Tokyo, why not posting a report in the Tokyo thread?

I's fine to ask for info on one thread, but it would also be nice if you contributed something back to the forum.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1485383]Since you have had such a good experience in Tokyo, why not posting a report in the Tokyo thread?

I's fine to ask for info on one thread, but it would also be nice if you contributed something back to the forum.[/QUOTE]Just from reading few threads, I did expect some answer like this, but as I said I'll be a regular reporter from now on.

BTW Asking questions and following answers is also a contribution to the forum.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1485477]as I said I'll be a regular reporter from now on.

BTW Asking questions and following answers is also a contribution to the forum.[/QUOTE]Great! Will be watching with high expectations the Tokyo thread.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1485256]Hello everyone,

This is my first post in the ISG and I'll certainly become very active from now on.

Just discovered this forum but already have been to brothels in Cologne, Paris, Brussels and Tokyo.

I'll be in Frankfurt (Dietzenbach) this Sunday and wanted to ask for your advice for the best girls for the following services :

1) session 1: Anal.

2) session 2: DT BBBJ & CIM.

3) session 3: Massage.

BTW does anyone know if there are good massage clubs (with BBBJ) or soapland in Frankfurt?

I have been to a soapland in tokyo recently and a MILF make me cum 3 times non stop without intercourse!

Thanks[/QUOTE]1) session 1: Anal. Alex.

2) session 2: DT BBBJ & CIM. For DT, I am not sure. Quite a lot of them do CIM. Alex is also good, but so are quite a few others. I think for Vicki it is a speciality.

3) session 3: Massage. Do not know.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1485256]Hello everyone,

This is my first post in the ISG and I'll certainly become very active from now on.

Just discovered this forum but already have been to brothels in Cologne, Paris, Brussels and Tokyo.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,

I would like to ask where are the brothels in Paris? Then I'll visit those next time.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cvangt; 1484019]I visited this place two weeks ago (on the day before the holiday). It was my first AO experience, and it was pretty fun. I did the 3x90 with Michaela, Alex, and some other girl- brunette, average sized breasts, kinda cute face, slight love handles, hair in a ponytail.

Two days ago, I felt a burning sensation when I took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Looked down to see a strange looking discharge, probably pus. Went to get tested, and I have gonorrhea. Took the meds, hopefully that will be the end of that.

Anyone who has seen those girls recently may want to get checked out.[/QUOTE]I have been this club twice, more than 20 days ago, probably I was also there the same day as you are (the day before the publice holiday, the 2nd of October and also public holiday the 3rd of October). I have seen 5 different girls, two of them were amongs your birds Michaela and Alex. No wonder, because these are two most beautiful girls in the club and they are high on demand. If your story is true, the half of the punters should realise that, as they are local customers. If your story were true there should be some words in German language forums. As Capt Dan stated before, your one time post doesn't give me much credential. Maybe, some local people who read this report can call the club and asks about the story as those girls has to do mandatory health check every two weeks.

By the way, I only received BBBJ, no AO with those two girls, intercourse with condoms. Only I had a short AO action with Helena, she doesn't have a pony tail, hopefully. LOL.

It was more than 20 days ago and since than, I have no symptoms of such a gonorea. And I had a recent check, all seems clear.

Michaela had to leave the club.

HB

After reading the many great reports, I am planning to visit the club on a layover at Frankfurt. In terms of pricing, if I wanted to have a fourth session, would it be just additional 30E for the session?

Is there any difference in pricing if you were to repeat with the same girl as opposed to going with a different one, after the 3 pack has been used up?

The other question is. I remember a link to a web page that seemed to show the list of their ladies on a daily schedule basis, but for the life of me I can not seem to find it again. Anyone know or remember coming across such a link?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1488733]Michaela had to leave the club.

HB[/QUOTE]HB, Can you elaborate? Why did she "have" to leave the club?

Guests were complaining about her service and her being rude to them. I can't agree, service was great for me, and yes, she's not willing to say yes to everything and that's what broke her neck, most men in that club can't cope with her. Heard she's working at Babylon in Elsdorf.

HB

Is there any issues with non Germans going to this club? I am not Turkish but often mistaken for. I was booted out of FKK Arabella in NRW. Also can you do two girls at once? I know that would burn up two of your sessions at once but it would be a kick sliding your cock in and out of two bare pussies.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1489107]Guests were complaining about her service and her being rude to them. I can't agree, service was great for me, and yes, she's not willing to say yes to everything and that's what broke her neck, most men in that club can't cope with her. Heard she's working at Babylon in Elsdorf.

HB[/QUOTE]This is true, as Zara. She claims she's done with AO though. Had fun sessions with her in Dietzenbach and she takes a bit more time for you in Babylon. She's making quite a bit less money than before, it seems.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1489113]Is there any issues with non Germans going to this club? I am not Turkish but often mistaken for. I was booted out of FKK Arabella in NRW. Also can you do two girls at once? I know that would burn up two of your sessions at once but it would be a kick sliding your cock in and out of two bare pussies.[/QUOTE]If you've got the cash then you're free to play. I've never seen any problems there and sure you can do two girls at once if you want

[QUOTE=Free Dude;1489127]Had fun sessions with her in Dietzenbach and she takes a bit more time for you in Babylon.[/QUOTE]More time? I used the full 30min with her. Had fun with her. She seemed to have fun with me. LOL.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1489285]More time? I used the full 30min with her. Had fun with her. She seemed to have fun with me. LOL.

HB[/QUOTE]Like I said, she doesn't make as many rooms as she was used to (nobody in Babylon does). As someone she 'knows', there were a lot of presales and aftersales. For what it's worth, sometimes in Dietzenbach she was the kind of girl that tried to wrap up zimmers in 15/20 minutes.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1489107]Guests were complaining about her service and her being rude to them. I can't agree, service was great for me, and yes, she's not willing to say yes to everything and that's what broke her neck, most men in that club can't cope with her. Heard she's working at Babylon in Elsdorf.

T.

HB[/QUOTE]For clarification, is this the same Michaela who was at Villa Venus for a time last Spring? A late-teens Romanian (now that's really going to distinguish her) who was playful and spunky? I'd heard that she went to Dietzenbach, but that was never confirmed for me. If it's the same person, I had great service from her, including plenty of time in the room and before the room also.

Yep, that's her.

HB

Sorry, that's inncorrect. The 18 year old Michaela (bubbly, but also not especially skinny) from VV is in Romania. Before Dietzenbach Michaela was in Arabella (and maybe Grimberg too). She explicitly told me she never was in Villa Venus, until a few weeks ago (before she was kicked out).

Just to add: Michaela from Dietzenbach (now Babylon, I wonder how long) only speaks German.

The bubbly Michaela in VV last spring spoke very decent English.

In any case there is a new 18 year old Michaela in VV now, no idea what she speaks or whether she is any good.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1489107]Guests were complaining about her service and her being rude to them. I can't agree, service was great for me, and yes, she's not willing to say yes to everything and that's what broke her neck, most men in that club can't cope with her. Heard she's working at Babylon in Elsdorf.

HB[/QUOTE]She was my first session, when I was last time in Dietzenbach, at the beginning of October. The session started good but soon, she was lazy. We finished the session within 20 min but we didn't get off the room. She lay down some more 10 minutes to sleep. That's explain the short service she used to give. This should be the problem for her, because some punters likes to receive a full half an hour service.

[QUOTE=Creature2; 1488656]I have been this club twice, more than 20 days ago, probably I was also there the same day as you are (the day before the publice holiday, the 2nd of October and also public holiday the 3rd of October). I have seen 5 different girls, two of them were amongs your birds Michaela and Alex. No wonder, because these are two most beautiful girls in the club and they are high on demand. If your story is true, the half of the punters should realise that, as they are local customers. If your story were true there should be some words in German language forums. As Capt Dan stated before, your one time post doesn't give me much credential. Maybe, some local people who read this report can call the club and asks about the story as those girls has to do mandatory health check every two weeks.

By the way, I only received BBBJ, no AO with those two girls, intercourse with condoms. Only I had a short AO action with Helena, she doesn't have a pony tail, hopefully. LOL.

It was more than 20 days ago and since than, I have no symptoms of such a gonorea. And I had a recent check, all seems clear.[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me that girls at other clubs get health check every two week. I visited ACA recently & and a girl told me that they are tested every two weeks including blood test.

I used to think that this club will have at least 15-25 girls working there.

However, I just read a punter's report that there were only 12 girls (all 5s. 7s, no real stunners) on a Friday evening, which is supposed to be a busy night for all FKK clubs.

Anyway, with this kind of price, I still want to give it a try.

So, it seems that the girls in this club are the normal-looking types, and luckily I am totally fine with normal-looking girls.

I'm a "Standing Doggy-Style" lover, and that means the only factor I care about is the woman's waist and ass.

I don't care a woman's face, breast, and age.

I just need a woman who has slim waist and ass (don't have to be very slim, just "not plump") , and is over 5' 7" (170 cm). Can I find at least 3 different women like this in this club?

[QUOTE=Free Dude;1489700]The 18 year old Michaela (bubbly, but also not especially skinny) from VV is in Romania.[/QUOTE]I think we're talking about the same Michaela. If so, I'm sorry to hear that she's gone back to Romania. She was one of my all time favorites. I'm puzzled by your "not especially skinny" comment. While I would not describe her as skinny, she was decidedly NOT fat. I would describe her body as near the ideal.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1490237]I used to think that this club will have at least 15-25 girls working there.

However, I just read a punter's report that there were only 12 girls (all 5s. 7s, no real stunners) on a Friday evening, which is supposed to be a busy night for all FKK clubs.

Anyway, with this kind of price, I still want to give it a try.

So, it seems that the girls in this club are the normal-looking types, and luckily I am totally fine with normal-looking girls.

I'm a "Standing Doggy-Style" lover, and that means the only factor I care about is the woman's waist and ass.

I don't care a woman's face, breast, and age.

I just need a woman who has slim waist and ass (don't have to be very slim, just "not plump") , and is over 5' 7" (170 cm). Can I find at least 3 different women like this in this club?[/QUOTE]There was about 23 women working there last week. Stunners? There are only a few stunners in these AO clubs. Most move on to bigger sauna clubs.

For an AO club, there were plenty of attractive girls sitting on those couches waiting for guys to cream in them!

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1484451]On the other hand, it is prefectly possible that the story is true. But such things can happen as well after a BBBJ in any place. What is suspicious is why there is such a report for this club, and almost never from other more famous one.

I speculate that it makes people confortable thinking that such problems can only happen in so called Ao clubs, as it makes them feel safe indulging in BBBjs elewhere. Which of course it is not (safe).[/QUOTE]The risk from a BBBJ is much less for most STDs than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. In the case of HIV, the risk from BBBJ to the man getting the BJ, the risk is essentially negligible. To the person giving the BJ it is larger, but still much smaller than other STD risks.

There is a reason why many women offer BBBJ-I know some personally who have had sex, including swallowing, with a dozen different men a week for years with no ill effects-but would never have unprotected anal or vaginal sex with a customer.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK; 1491716]The risk from a BBBJ is much less for most STDs than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. In the case of HIV, the risk from BBBJ to the man getting the BJ, the risk is essentially negligible. To the person giving the BJ it is larger, but still much smaller than other STD risks.

There is a reason why many women offer BBBJ-I know some personally who have had sex, including swallowing, with a dozen different men a week for years with no ill effects-but would never have unprotected anal or vaginal sex with a customer.[/QUOTE]Everyone has the right to believe and behave in any way they wish.

The risk of getting HIV for a man having vaginal sex with a woman in the West is also almost negligible.

I don't Believe in "personal" experiences as proof of whatever. So the folllowing is no proof, but let me say that, in my case, I have never had unprotected vaginal sex with prostitutes, but very often BBBJ. And I got more than once " Common" STDs. And that from girls working in non AO FKS.

I don't report those instances, since I cannot be sure where and from whom I got it. I just take my treatment and move on.

I had a long layover at Frankfurt and was wondering what venue to hit. The NRW clubs even though could be more economical and GFE fun, the hassle of traveling 3 hours each way by train seemed daunting given the time. Then I was considering Tref-188 but thanks to SvenFKK and Dark Vader, they persuaded me to go to FKK Dietzenbach instead. I am so pleased with that decision. So here is the blow by blow.

First of all, it is quite simple to get to the place from the airport. The regional train station is right below the Terminal 1 B concourse and so it is very easy to get to. Then you have to take either S* or S (and then change to S2. That takes about an hour. The club itself is very close to the Dietzenbach terminal station. The directions were very easy from google maps even and I got there in under 15 minutes. By the way, if anyone wants to eat something before they go to the club as the food really sucks at the club, there is a decent Turkish restaurant on the way. They have all kinds of kebabs that were quite flavorful.

Anyway I get to the club and find out that even if you pay the 30E entry fee, you are not allowed to go in and out. That I thought was a bit if a bummer. Also, I thought I might do more than 3 sessions but basically the fee repeats itself as if you did not buy the first 3 sessions! Both of these policies are I think a bit asinine, but that's what she told me. Any way I bought the 3 sessions and started looking at the pictures. To my shock I found that neither Ina, nor Tina nor Milena nor Diana were there today! I felt very apprehensive and was wondering if I made the right choice. But fear not, there is a new crop that has come in. Mostly Romanians that are very young and very good. The 5 that I had my eye on were Anna, Anka, Alice, Alex and Julia. All of them were certainly under 25 may be even under 23 with very good young bodies. Alice and Anka have probably at least a C cup and the others are more B cups but no sag at all and hardly any tummy. I started the session with Anka. Everything was great and she took all my saved up sperm happily in her mouth and spit it out. In my opinion she has one of the best faces and bodies currently at the club. Then I took Julia because of the fact that she doea anal. I wanted to try it. Again a great GFE effort, including a nice BBBJ and finally a fabulous anal. Finally I had to wait a long time for Alex as she was super busy. She was hardly ever in the lounge area. She was getting tagged constantly. Finally I got her and again what a GFE effort culminating in covered anal. I really wanted to have a fourth session with Alice as she has one of the better tits of these bunch but ran out of time due to the fact that I was waiting for Alex so long.

In summary the highlights were. You get a full 30 minutes with the ladies. They are all very GFE. Lots of great kissing, plenty of very nice BBBJ action (Alex I thought was specially good with no teeth whatsoever although all the 3 were very much to my liking) , I think they all do CIM. I do not know about their AO status as I did not bother and wanted covered action only. In fact I would argue that you get more like 45 minutes of action as the making out starts in the lounge area itself with a lot of kissing, touching their tits and pussies and most importantly they start the BBBJ until you are good and hard and the action moves to the room.

All in all a big 2 thumbs up from me, especially given the cost, the quality of the ladies and the service level. I think from now on all future layovers in Frankfurt airport will get me laid at Dietzenbach.

Interestingly, even on Monday, there were quite a few punters streaming through. Most of them stayed about 3 hours or so. Good news was that there were always more women than men. They must have had at least 15 women or so. Apart from these 5 who I thought were absolutely great in terms of their looks, there were at least a few other doable ones like Selene, Andrea, Mari, Leila etc. But they have saggy tits and overall a bit of a tummy. The vibe is one of great GFE and when you reach the counter after your session she asks every time if you are satisfied

Did a quick visit today to FKK Dietzenbach. This was my first FKK club. Thanks to Sad Sam for the previous report. Very helpful. A bunch of dudes walking around and sitting around in towels is a new experience for me that will take some getting used to. The previously reported prices and procedures are all accurate and won't be repeated here, but I will mention that I didn't know what to do once I had browsed the menu, so I requested Alex."You wait." "Any idea how long?" I asked."No, you have to wait." So I picked a different girl."Is Julia available?" "You have to wait." So I wander out into the main common area with couches and chairs where there are some girls sitting alone (I think that's what I was supposed to do in the first place). When I checked them out more closely, lo and behold, one of them is Alex. Things start to heat up with her on the couch, off came the towel, and then some guy parked right across from us. I wasn't comfortable with that, so t asked if we could just go to a room, and she said "No problem." Nice DFK, an excellent BBBJ, and the anal was fantastic. It was a one punt effort because I had to make a meeting, but I'll be back in 3 days and plan to stay much longer.

I did a three session visit around 11. 00, leaving around 13.30. For the price it can't be beaten in the area, but it's not much use for spending a long time there. The lack of food and chilling out areas meant it was a question of always being "on duty"

The service from the girls I went with was in each case as good as an average upscale FKK club, but there seemed to be something lacking. Maybe it's because they get a lot of non-repeat visitors, or something about the reasons they are in this particular club, or due to the fact the girls have to sit alone on their couches all day. It's hard to put my finger on but it meant I left quite satisfied with the place but looking forward to the more engaged alive approach of the girls at more upscale FKK.

The ratio of men to women was about 1:1.

The girls were definitely not good looking for me. Maybe it was because it was early in the day.

Would I repeat? Only if I was looking for cheap sessions. At 120 euro for three sessions including entry compared to 200 euros at World, Sharks etc I think World, Sharks etc for example to be better value (free couch time, attractive girls, chillout areas, flirting with girls, food al day). On the other hand having anal included free at Dietzenbach by one or two girls is a huge cost saving if you take that service

I'm not saying anything against the club, but maybe it's just not my style

Anyone ever tried a threesome here, covered or uncovered? If its covered I'd be interested in knowing if they require condom changes. If both girls do AO, would a bareback threesome be offered? Even though this is the dietzenbach thread, same question of other AO clubs.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1495885]Anyone ever tried a threesome here, covered or uncovered? If its covered I'd be interested in knowing if they require condom changes. If both girls do AO, would a bareback threesome be offered? Even though this is the dietzenbach thread, same question of other AO clubs.[/QUOTE]I did a 3-way at Dietzenbach. No requirement to change condoms because they were both AO girls. I can't remember which girls they were, perhaps because it wasn't a memorable experience. Still, it was fun because there were two nubile bodies to touch and caress and kiss. They were not into each other. At 60 euro for both of them it was worth it, but just barely.

FKK Dietzenbach Report.

15. 11. 13 Firday

After I visited the biggest Hessen club-FKK Oase, the next FKK club I visit was FKK Dietzenbach-a very small club where only local men went.

My reports about FKK Oase and the Red Light District

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1499563&viewfull=1#post1499563[/url]

Well, I actually did it mainly out of curiosity. I just thought maybe I should visit at least one small local club to see what's the difference between small local clubs which are mainly for locals and big clubs which are full of tourists.

I take the train to Dietzenbach Bahnhof, and walk to FKK Dietzenbach.

It was a very easy and nice walk with beautiful countryside scenery.

Went in the club after ringing the bell.

Well, Like I said, it seemed to be a club without foreign tourist customers, so almost everyone in the club thought I was German and spoke German to me, including the girl opened the door for me, the reception lady, and other customers I met later. So, I have to explained that I could only speak English to every one of them later for many times. (The language problem turned out to be a bit of annoying later when I tried to approach the girls)

The reception lady switched to English and said there were 17 girls working there.

I didn't count the number clearly, I just took a quick glance, and saw at least 4 girls were doable for me. I thought I could at least fucked any 3 of them, so I choose the "three sessions package" (90 EUR for three sessions card + Entrance fee 30 EUR = Total 120 EUR).

First girl I met was Andrea, from Romania. She was probably the most beautiful girl among all the 17 girls in my eye, so I went to the room with her right away. Kissing, embracing, BBBJ, nice fuck. The performance is good enough for me (especially after I had shitty sessions in the RLD and Oase, which must have dropped my expectation for sex to a certain degree)

I really wanted to do her again; however, the "three sessions package" didn't allow me to repeat the same girl. (So, if I ever come back to this again, I will just buy the "one session package" and pay 40 EUR for any extra sex)

Started to looked for my second girl; however, just at this moment, I found that not able to speak German was a real problem in a small local club.

Not all the girls could speak English. I mean, some of them couldn't even understand any single word I said.

I thought it would not be a big problem, because we could still have sex without any conversations. To my astonishment, the girls who didn't understand my English just replied something in an unknown language and turned their face away. This really frustrated me at that moment.

Later, I encounter a even bigger frustration, I met Alex, from Romania.

At first, she pretended that she didn't know English and tried to ignore me.

However, minutes later, when I tried again and asked "Should we go to room?", she suddenly understand my English. After getting into the room, she confessed that she actually understand English. WTF is this about! (Later, I talked to Andrea again, and Andrea confirmed that the two girls who turned their face away were Bulgarians, and they really couldn't speak English. As for why Alex act like that. She had no idea either)

Ok, I didn't really know how to describe Alex. She seemed very weird and moody at that time. She even swore to the air in a language I didn't understand.

I actually felt nervous and uncomfortable being with her. (Yeah, I must be out of my mind to take a girl who made me nervous and uncomfortable to the room. What an idiot I was!)

There were no chemistry between me and she, and everything were mechanical. Later, I told her it was Ok, we should stop.

Under such situation, of course I did not cum. Like I said, I was an idiot to take a girl who made me nervous and uncomfortable to the room.

(I learned my lesson again. If I could not even feel right with a girl outside the room, and then it is impossible for me to get a good session in the room. I should just quit and leave right away.)

Since the girl who fit my type were either busy or couldn't speak English.

My choice was limited to a certain degree.

Finally, I decided to take Ina, from Romania, as my third session.

Actually, she's too plump for my taste. However, she's nice, sweet, and talkative, which made me feel really comfortable being with her. So, I go to the room with her. Since I didn't want to fuck her. (I was just not interested in her body, not her fault at all) , I just told her to do the BBBJ and oil massage, which at least made me feel really relax and comfortable on the bed.

In sum, I had a good session (Andrea) , a bad session (Alex) , and a so-so session (Ina) in FKK Dietzenbach.

I think this club is worth going back only when I want to fuck merely one girl and then leave quickly, because 70 EUR (40 EUR for one session card + 30 EUR Entrance fee) for one session, the use of the facilities, and a place to rest is still a good bargain.

I am planning mybfirst trip to this club for later this week. Generally how many of the girls offer AO.

That's my main reason for visiting this club.

[QUOTE=DFWdude; 1500393]I am planning mybfirst trip to this club for later this week. Generally how many of the girls offer AO.

That's my main reason for visiting this club.[/QUOTE]They tend to have 10-15 girls on duty on any one day and normally over 2/3 will do AO. Most of the new girls now do AO and it's only a few of the old roster who just do covered only.

They have pictures of all of their staff in a cabinet on reception together with details of the services provided by each.

[QUOTE=Sad Sam; 1488775]After reading the many great reports, I am planning to visit the club on a layover at Frankfurt. In terms of pricing, if I wanted to have a fourth session, would it be just additional 30E for the session?

Is there any difference in pricing if you were to repeat with the same girl as opposed to going with a different one, after the 3 pack has been used up?

The other question is. I remember a link to a web page that seemed to show the list of their ladies on a daily schedule basis, but for the life of me I can not seem to find it again. Anyone know or remember coming across such a link?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It starts over after your card finish. 90% remain everyday. I haven't seen any link as you think.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1485256]Hello everyone,

I'll be in Frankfurt (Dietzenbach) this Sunday and wanted to ask for your advice for the best girls for the following services :

1) session 1: Anal.

2) session 2: DT BBBJ & CIM.

3) session 3: Massage.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I have been 5 times to Dietzenbach FKK (this place is actually called "Sauna Voltra str. 4) during the last month and before reporting for all these visits, I wanted to answer my own previous question if any body is interested.

Best 3 girls for:

1) Anal: Andria (tall & slim) (Tried with Alex and I can't tell you how much I hated it)

2) DT BBBJ & CIM: Diana (She does DT and Swallow even though I don't ask her to, she just want to make me happy! One of the few girls who doesn't blow with her teeth)

3) Massage: Didn't even try it on the FKK (but did almost all Frankfurt message parlors).

After my day of disaster on Dec 1 at Love Factory, I decided to give Dietzenbach a try on Dec 2. When I walked into the club I was greeted by a fully naked young lady in her mid 20s. Nice greeting. I was given the price structure and due to time constraints I chose 2x70 plus entry. After changing into my robe, I looked around. This club looks like something out of the 70s. Not a place to spend the full day due to lack of facilities.

After looking around a bit and seeing several dudes getting BBBJ on the couches I decided to look for my my first. I cannot remember her name as overall she was not memorable, neither was her service as it was AO lite (no creampie).

I did see one girl interacting with other guys and I decided she would be my second. I went to the board of girls to see if I could figure out who she was, and I determined it was Oana (or something like that). A young Romanian hotttie.

WOW I was not disappointed. She is a true GFE in so many ways, the way she looked at me, touched me, kissed me, all incredible. A true GFE event with a creampie ending. After that she wanted to cuddle and kiss for some time. I think I fell asleep and was snoring I awoke to her tickling me and laughing. I told her I had to go, and she seemed to pout a little, but I reckon she understood. But she was truly incredible.

Sorry for the short report as I am swamped with other things to do.

Hi,

I am planning to visit this month, and several times next year. However, is this club going to be banned? Read a report in the English press.

[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/12/germany-to-ban-flat-rate-brothels-2543418.html[/url]

Any clarifications from German speakers?

Man, do I hate these fking feminists.

Dietzenbach is not a flatrate brothel. In any case it will take some time before new intended legislation becomes reality.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn; 1509070]At Mr Styles,

When you pay 70€ you will have one and only session and the session price is always and in all cases either 30€ or 40€ and it is written on the little card they give you.

In flat rates like FKK Mettmann you will pay 90€ and fuck as many girls as you want.[/QUOTE]A new correction, Mettmann is neither a flat rate, nor a FKK. It's a partytreff.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1509019]Hi,

I am planning to visit this month, and several times next year. However, is this club going to be banned? Read a report in the English press.

[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/12/germany-to-ban-flat-rate-brothels-2543418.html[/url]

Any clarifications from German speakers?

Man, do I hate these fking feminists.[/QUOTE]Dietzenbach is not flatrate, it's pay per fuck. Just that you have to decide upfront how many pops you're going to have or the price per pop will be higher.

HB

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1509430]A new correction, Mettmann is neither a flat rate, nor a FKK. It's a partytreff.[/QUOTE]I was under the assumption that "partytreff" is the german word for "flat rate".

I am thinking about another trip across the pond and would head over to Diez on my first day in Fra. Is there anything new at this place has the entry price rolled back to 30e? Is Ina still there, this thread has gone cold.

[QUOTE=Panhead;1525929]I am thinking about another trip across the pond and would head over to Diez on my first day in Fra. Is there anything new at this place has the entry price rolled back to 30e? Is Ina still there, this thread has gone cold.[/QUOTE]Was there two weeks ago. Pricing still the same as ever, 30E entry then (1x40, 2x70 or 3x90). Some new girls and yes Ina is still there.

[QUOTE=Panhead;1525929]I am thinking about another trip across the pond and would head over to Diez on my first day in Fra. Is there anything new at this place has the entry price rolled back to 30e? Is Ina still there, this thread has gone cold.[/QUOTE]Try Alice, best looks and service.

[QUOTE=Wxcvbn;1526161]Try Alice, best looks and service.[/QUOTE]Did they just give up on the 35e entry with discounts for early or late entry? What does Alice look like? Does she speak any English?

[QUOTE=Panhead;1526308]Did they just give up on the 35e entry with discounts for early or late entry? What does Alice look like? Does she speak any English?[/QUOTE]Hot blonde, Romy, slim bod with natural firm large C cups. Speaks English.

Visited last Wednesday. Paid for the 3-session. 90 Euro special. Of the 12-14 girls available. 2 were very good-looking (Aice and one whose name I never got), 2 good-looking, 3 acceptable-looking, the rest unfuckable (fat and unattractive). Unfortunately, due to bad timing I never got around to doing Alice and the other one, a young, slim brunette who was always dancing, took an instant dislike to me when I asked if she spoke Italian, so I never had a chance to do her. I did Roxana, a blonde with a big ass, and a slim brunette with a pretty face. I had to rush my third session because they wanted to close early due to no customers and there were only two girls who I would do (Alice, who had just finished a session and did not want to do another one) and an acceptable brunette, who delivered a so-so session just to get me out of there.

Do not expect to see more than 3-4 good-looking women here. Most of the rest are suitable only for Turks and fat Germans.

Trains can't reach Dietzenbach directly from FRA due to constructions until 12 February, you have to change and take another train somewhere.

The trip can take up to 60mn from FRA main station.

Hi everyone,

I plan to venture out in Dietzenbach my first time ever in 3rd week of March during a work trip to FRA. Wondering if any of you experienced mongers can help on couple of questions below about my preference (read fetish. LOL).

1) Are the girls always fully naked wearing only high heels like the bigger Hessen FKK's?

2) Is it possible / allowed to have full-on public sex with creampie finish with some hottie like Alice (of course yet to meet her, but sounds like she's awesome from many posts below)? That's one of my major "thing" but wanted to know if that is allowed, and even if it is allowed is that ok with the folks there or would be frowned upon by the management / girls / other customers? I have had numerous full-on public sex with CIM finish in World, Oase, Palace, Artemis, Atlantis (so miss that FUN place.) etc, even at Arabella last year (with creampie finish). Most places everyone cheered us (LOL) , but wanted know if it is okay in Dietzenbach.

3) Read below that they have some sort of outdoor terrace. If it is warm enough, is it possible / allowed to fuck a girl there?

Thanks in advance.

You can have full public sex including creampie. Girls are always fully naked. Outdoor are is only open in the summer, I don't see any reason why you should not be allowed to have sex there.

HB

1) Yes all are always naked.

2) Yes you can and yes I have seen it happen, but I won't be surprised if some girls don't like it.

3) Never heard of a terrace or an outdoor but I haven"t been there in the summer.

[QUOTE=Gino02; 1531551]Hi everyone,

I plan to venture out in Dietzenbach my first time ever in 3rd week of March during a work trip to FRA. Wondering if any of you experienced mongers can help on couple of questions below about my preference (read fetish. LOL).

1) Are the girls always fully naked wearing only high heels like the bigger Hessen FKK's?

2) Is it possible / allowed to have full-on public sex with creampie finish with some hottie like Alice (of course yet to meet her, but sounds like she's awesome from many posts below)? That's one of my major "thing" but wanted to know if that is allowed, and even if it is allowed is that ok with the folks there or would be frowned upon by the management / girls / other customers? I have had numerous full-on public sex with CIM finish in World, Oase, Palace, Artemis, Atlantis (so miss that FUN place.) etc, even at Arabella last year (with creampie finish). Most places everyone cheered us (LOL) , but wanted know if it is okay in Dietzenbach.

3) Read below that they have some sort of outdoor terrace. If it is warm enough, is it possible / allowed to fuck a girl there?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

So Turks are in the same category as fat Germans?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99; 1526652]Visited last Wednesday. Paid for the 3-session. 90 Euro special. Of the 12-14 girls available. 2 were very good-looking (Aice and one whose name I never got) .2 good-looking. 3 acceptable-looking, the rest unfuckable (fat and unattractive). Unfortunately, due to bad timing I never got around to doing Alice and the other one, a young, slim brunette who was always dancing, took an instant dislike to me when I asked if she spoke Italian, so I never had a chance to do her. I did Roxana, a blonde with a big ass, and a slim brunette with a pretty face. I had to rush my third session because they wanted to close early due to no customers and there were only two girls who I would do (Alice, who had just finished a session and did not want to do another one) and an acceptable brunette, who delivered a so-so session just to get me out of there.

Do not expect to see more than 3-4 good-looking women here. Most of the rest are suitable only for Turks and fat Germans.[/QUOTE]

Based on ISG reports, I decided to try Dietzenbach last night. My FKK of choice on my trips to Frankfurt has been Dolce Vita Raubach, but I wanted to try a similar place that was closer. Other than the road construction that required a detour, the trip from Darmtadt was quick and uneventful. It compared very well to Dolce Vita Raubach. In lots of respects, the facility was better than DVR. I really liked the large "mingling" room with all the flat-screens showing the same porn movies. The room was large enough, or, the ventilation system good enough (or both) that the incessant smoking wasn't a problem. There were about 12 guys and probably 20 girls. The blond behind the bar was one of the best lookers, but, she was tending bar and not playing.

Tonight, a bubbly short naked girl greeted me at the door. Someone who goes through the effort to greet you and show you around deserves a session. But, she disappeared and I lost track of her. There were lots of dark-haired girls and about 3-4 blonds. Also, there were two MILF-ish girls who were entirely different from the others, so much so that I thought they were "civilians." There was a Filipina who wore glasses and a sort of chubby (but not overly fat) girl with long curly reddish hair. They were intriguing enough to have wanted to do a session with each of them, but, Euros and 60-year old libido didn't make that possible. There was a tall, multi-tattooed girl with short dark hair who looked great, but, I didn't get the chance to partake. There were a couple of guys who went upstairs with more than one girl.

I bought the two-session package for EUR100 total cost. I figured I could do the deed once and possibly twice. What I found interesting was that the girls just sat there and expected you to approach them and sit down next to them. As others have experienced, public DFK and BBBJ started each session. My first session was with "Sherry" who was a fairly petite dark-haired girl, probably about 25. The DFK and BBBJ on the sofa was exquisite. She continued that in the upstairs room. She didn't ask me (language barrier, I assume) to DATY. She hopped on CG and I lasted about 5 minutes before exploding inside her. We cuddled for a few minutes and then it was off to the shower.

I decided to try some of the soup, which wasn't all that bad. The evening was wearing on, so, I figured I needed to try a second session to get my money's worth. I was sitting in one of the couches watching several of the girls start laughing and generally getting silly. One of them comes up from behind and plops herself right on top of me in lap dance configuration. She wasn't terrific physically but made up for it in attitude and enthusiasm. She looked at me and said,"Fikken?" which is one German word I understand. I was holding out for one of the blonds, but, I said,"Sure!" In her very limited English, she said her name was something like Carmelita and that she was from Turkey. She gave me a great BBBJ in the room and laid down for some DATY. She groaned for quite a while and I thought she was cumming, but, I never got there after about 10 minutes. We tried missionary and CG but just couldn't get there. She said she was sorry, but, I explained to her that I was 60 and couldn't do it twice. She told me with hand signals that she was 23.

I think I will go back to DVR tomorrow night to compare it to Dietzenberg. The shorter drive may win out when all is said & done.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1531828]So Turks are in the same category as fat Germans?[/QUOTE]They both like women with a lot of meat on them.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1531599]You can have full public sex including creampie. Girls are always fully naked. Outdoor are is only open in the summer, I don't see any reason why you should not be allowed to have sex there.

HB[/QUOTE]I was there last summer and witnessed a girl doing reverse CG outside. In the winter, the door to the outside is blocked off by a couch.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1534683]I was there last summer and witnessed a girl doing reverse CG outside. In the winter, the door to the outside is blocked off by a couch.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Maybe it was me you saw. A girl rode me a few minutes in the garden last summer, but she was a bit shy and had a towel around her waist.

BL

I will probably have a longish layover at FRA (6/7 hours) during the summer and I was wondering if anyone ever tried to reach the club by taxi straight from Frankfurt Airport.

Google Maps says it approx 24 km and a 20 minutes ride. How much would it be both ways?

Hertz quotation for a one day rental (4 or 5 hours tops in fact) it's around 70 euros.

[QUOTE=Treble Machine; 1539807]I will probably have a longish layover at FRA (6/7 hours) during the summer and I was wondering if anyone ever tried to reach the club by taxi straight from Frankfurt Airport.

Google Maps says it approx 24 km and a 20 minutes ride. How much would it be both ways?

Hertz quotation for a one day rental (4 or 5 hours tops in fact) it's around 70 euros.[/QUOTE]According to :

[url]http://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=Frankfurt-Germany&from=Frankfurt[/url]+Airport%2C+Frankfurt%2C+Germany&to=Voltastra%C3%9Fe+4%2C+Dietzenbach%2C+Germany.

Between 42. 51 euros + tip depending on traffic

[QUOTE=Treble Machine; 1539807]I will probably have a longish layover at FRA (6/7 hours) during the summer and I was wondering if anyone ever tried to reach the club by taxi straight from Frankfurt Airport.[/QUOTE]Many airlines offer a small fee to adjust your flight and extend the layover a day or two. I did that with a United flight ($75) which gave me two extra days and most of Sunday to enjoy an extended layover. The weekend car rental deal offset the taxi fare or higher one day car rental that I would have been forced to pay. And $75 is a small amount to pay when you get an entire weekend in the clubs. Even if your flying on business, the ticket is in your name. You should be able to pay the fee and change it to extend your flight layover.

[QUOTE=Treble Machine; 1539807]I will probably have a longish layover at FRA (6/7 hours) during the summer and I was wondering if anyone ever tried to reach the club by taxi straight from Frankfurt Airport.

Google Maps says it approx 24 km and a 20 minutes ride. How much would it be both ways?

Hertz quotation for a one day rental (4 or 5 hours tops in fact) it's around 70 euros.[/QUOTE]Just take a cab, instead of wasting valuable fucking time in going from car hire desk to undergroung garage, trying to understand how the GPs work etc.

If you are up to it, you have enough time for 3 fucks.

[QUOTE=Treble Machine; 1539807]I will probably have a longish layover at FRA (6/7 hours) during the summer and I was wondering if anyone ever tried to reach the club by taxi straight from Frankfurt Airport.

Google Maps says it approx 24 km and a 20 minutes ride. How much would it be both ways?

Hertz quotation for a one day rental (4 or 5 hours tops in fact) it's around 70 euros.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind no matter which mode of transportation you decide to use, they most you will get with a 6/7 hours layover is max 3-4 hours in the club.

Hey guys, thanks to everyone of you for the insights and help to the cause.

Found another rate at about 55 euro on Expedia from some other rental company (Enterprise, maybe?) I never used before.

Still I think taxi is the better option. And yes, I know I'll probably only have an actual 'playing' time of about 2/3 hours in the club but I'm fine with that considering Fkk Dietzenbach being what it is.

It turned out that I had time on only one day, but fortunately my three favourites (see previous reports) were there: Ina, Tina and Milena. I arrived about 7 pm on Thursday 3 April. There are pictures at the bar of the girls with their names and what they do."Mache alles" (do everything) is a euphemism for "without condom". Thus "mache alles außer anal" means vaginal sex without a condom. (All girls do CIM.) The "mache alles" was there last time. This time, the other girls had "nicht ohne" (not without) , to make clear that vaginal and, if offered, anal sex is possible only with condom. (Again, all girls do CIM and some even swallow.) Of the 15 or so girls there, only my three and a couple of others were in the "nicht ohne" category, I. E. Most are AO (some even anal without). One of these, Andrea, I had had before, and did anal with her. She was OK, but not worth a repeat.

Maybe since many (most?) customers want AO, my three girls were easy to get and I didn't have to wait. I went first with Ina after a few minutes of cuddling on the sofa (I even let her blow me a bit). Now that CIM is possible here, I don't want to waste an orgasm in a condom, so my strategy with all was to fuck first then let them finish me off orally. In all cases, however, I started out with 15 minutes of massage. Ina did a really good massage. I then stroked here a bit, front and back, before some DATY, but she didn't want to come. We then fucked, both from the front and from the back. I then let her do a long, slow, DT blowjob. I could fill my cock from the outside, deep within her throat. When I was ready to come, after about 5 minutes, I told her to go deep and hold it. I then came deep within her throat. She obviously swallowed this. She then sucked out a few more drops but spat these out (without hurry though). Ina is a nice girl and fortunately not too thin.

After only about 5 minutes break, I went upstairs with Tina, again after a few minutes cuddling and blowing on the sofa. Essentially the same programme as with Milena. Her massage was more stroking and not concentrated on the shoulders. Both were good. Since I had already come once, I could fuck a bit longer (again front and back). Tina takes it deep but doesn't do deep throat. She didn't do CIM in the past (I don't remember if Ina did) and, though she does it now, with her it is more obvious that she would prefer not to do it. She is still OK though for CIM and otherwise is wonderful.

Essentially a repeat of the other two with Milena who, in contrast to the others, didn't recognize me. We didn't go upstairs but into one of the rooms downstairs. She gave a REALLY good massage and I had to force myself to stop after about 15 minutes. I then let her lick my arse for about 7 minutes. Again, I had to make myself stop. Although a bit too thin for my taste, her service is incredible. In contrast to Ina and Tina, I didn't have time to lick her, but went straight to fucking in missionary position before letting her suck me off. In contrast to most other girls, she wasn't completely nude, but had stockings on. Normally I ask her to remove them, which she will do, but this time I forgot. All in all, definitely the best value for money anywhere except at a Partytreff. However, even at a good Partytreff, there will be more dead time between sessions, the sessions probably won't be as long and massage is more difficult to come by. At a total of EUR 120 for 3 half-hour sessions, all f which were high quality, this price can't be beat. (Additional sessions are EUR 40 each.) (In the RLD, one can get about 15 or 20 minutes for EUR 25, which is almost as cheap, but 15 or 20 minutes is too short, massage is difficult, there is no possibility of sauna, drinks etc and one can't sit around nude and watch nude girls (and girls and punters in action on the couches) while waiting for the next session.)

I highly recommend all three of these girls. Please support them so that they stay in Dietzenbach despite punters wanting AO. Ina is from Romania and has curly hair and is one of the few reasonably plump women there. Tina is from Indonesia, is a bit older than most and has very long black hair. Milena is from Poland, very thin and has small, saggy tits. They are all really, really, really nice and provide GFE service. All do CIM and Milena's arse-licking is incredible.

Sven. The attraction, at least for me, to Dietzenbach was that it was AO unless you asked for a condom. Are you saying that this has changed? Is Dietzenbach now a condom FKK? I'm not criticizing you. I'm just asking for clarification.

Thanks. Max

Nothing changed. If is still an AO place. He just chose out of the 3-4 girls at Dietzenbach who do not do AO.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1554401]Nothing changed. If is still an AO place. He just chose out of the 3-4 girls at Dietzenbach who do not do AO.[/QUOTE]Right. Not only do I want a condom for vaginal and anal sex with working girls, but I prefer working girls who insist on condoms.

What has changed is that there are only a few girls who don't do AO, and even these do CIM and perhaps even swallow.

Just to let you know that the club is closed today and tomorrow.

Hi,

When I arrived to the club today Sunday it was closed.

Does anyone have more information?

Regards.

BL

[QUOTE=ButtLover;1557223]When I arrived to the club today Sunday it was closed.[/QUOTE]You should have checked the local German boards. The club is closed today because it is Easter Sunday. And tomorrow, Easter Monday. They also talked about some renovation on these days.

HB

Read on a German board open again and new carpet

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1559177]Read on a German board open again and new carpet[/QUOTE]Also new lockers and small safes for cash ect now located outside dressing room, you get 2 keys.

Will try to post Saturday.

Tina, Denisa, and Roxanna

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1559177]Read on a German board open again and new carpet[/QUOTE]Great! I remember almost tripping over the carpet seams a couple of times.

Took S2 track 102 from Frankfurt HBF. About 30+ minutes to last stop Dietzenbach. To walk turn left and walk Eisenbahnstrasse, near end of track take the dirt path across tracks to parking lot area and continue thru lot to main street Max-Planck Strasse. May not have that sign yet. Turn left to go to Justus von Lieberg Strasse and shortly come to Voltastrasse, right turn and soon FKK is on your left. Walk thru lot to entrance. About 15. 20 minutes.

Arrived around 3 PM. Paid 120€ for 3. Shown where stuff is, clothes in locker, money in new tiny lockers opposite reception. Showered and got towel to wear. Those towels are the worst I have seen. After a bit sat with Tina, who has been described previously, not the youngest or best looking. From Bali. Started DFK and then on knees for BBJ. To room and more BBJ and then after a bit CIM.

I would suggest do not go planning on a lunch. Little food. Next an hour later sat with Denisa from Romania, little English. Same routine DFK and then BBJ on couch. To room, more BBJ, then asked for condom and she seemed questioning but applied and then went to mission for awhile, stopped and asked to finish (fertig) in mouth. I knelt and she worked until the finish. Short girl with long black hair past butt. Said she was 24 and had been there 3years. Somewhat sagging breasts.

Sat around for long time, had some coke and water and some cake type slices. Finally saw cute blonde with nice small tits. Sat with her, Roxanna, also Romanian but with even less German or English. Similar routine but LK not DFK, and then asked blasen, yes, so down on her knees and did a good job. After awhile said room and went upstairs. More LK and then BBJ and I was ready and went without condom to mission. After some time stopped and asked more BBJ. Not much variety and too much hand, but hard to explain to her. I was fully ready but she alternated mouth and hand and finally I called it quits. Good time with cute girl. She said she was 24 also and had been there 3 months. Long shower and some more water. Dressed and left. Waited to S2 about 10 minutes and back to HBF.

The working girls also do the picking up of used glasses, plates, and emptying ashtrays. It was sorta funny to see someone empty a dryer full of towels onto a couch and 2 to 6 girls immediately start folding and piling up a stack of towels. Sorta funny, I thought.

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1559857]The working girls also do the picking up of used glasses, plates, and emptying ashtrays. It was sorta funny to see someone empty a dryer full of towels onto a couch and 2 to 6 girls immediately start folding and piling up a stack of towels. Sorta funny, I thought.[/QUOTE].

.........While, for the most part, butt-naked!

i spent a few days in frankfurt last week and had not been there since the days of fkk atlantis. having sex with an 18 year old blond russian girl in one of the outside tepee's at atlantis brings back fond memories.

last friday, i took an s2 train from frankfurt hbf to dietzenbach station and walked 15 minutes or so to the club. i was buzzed in and a young woman greeted then gave me a towel.

i was led to the main desk where an older blonde woman (the manager i presume) greeted me and asked me if i had visited before. as i had read previous reports, i opted for the 3 x sessions.

i was shown the changing rooms and showers and promptly changed.

on the main desk are photo's of the girls on duty with what they do and do not do written in german. so do make a note of this, and of course, you can always ask the friendly manager.

the club is basically looking like low lit room with lots of sofas, reminding me of red carpet clubs i used to visit in the nwr area about eight years ago.

there were about 8-10 ladies already at 10:30 dotted around the room all looking quite attractive more attractive to me when compared to the girls at treff 188 that i visited a couple of days earlier.

i made a coffee from the machine, sat down on a sofa and started to look at the eye candy. note there is very little food, like basic bread and cheesecake.

i eyed up an spectacle wearing asian woman with long black hair who was tina. i sat next to her and we talked for a duple of minutes. she reached underneath my towel and gave me a blow job. i opted to take a room upstairs with tina as the pom music was a little too loud for me to have sex in one of the bedrooms on the main room.

tina from bali was quite sensual with light french kisses and her blow job. when she put a condom out, i knew she would not do bareback sex and that was fine by me.

after pumping tina in a few positions, off went the condom and i exploded in her mouth. she unhurriedly spat me out on a towel, talked a little and left the bedroom. that was a good start for me.

showered and went to relax in the main room for a hour or so. by 12:30, there still wasn't too many guys and there wasn't a queue girl the ladies. what i mean by this is that, once a girl was free, she wasn't jumped on by a guy immediately. it was a relaxing environment. i spotted a large woman with big tits and wearing glasses. she was romanian and called diana i think. as we engaged in small talk on the sofa, she asked me if i was a sex tourist! i was a little embarrassed, but i lied and said no. but admitted i had visited a few clubs in recent years.

as diana, blew me in the bedroom, i didn't think i would get it up so soon. the 69 position got my cock rock hard and she asked me if i wanted a condom or not. against my inner voice, i wanted to be inside her and she rode me without a condom. diana was grinding me quite hard, i withdrew, and shot my load outside her. i did this as i was not sure if i could come inside her.

small talk and i left the room with a happy smile.

after another rest, i went to the small patio garden at the end of the main room and a couple of guys were having bareback sex with the girls. one thing to not about any club environment is that you as a guest need to be assertive in approaching the girls and also in the bedroom. if you see a girl that is sitting down on a sofa, approach her otherwise a fellow guest with "guzump" you.

there was a slim romanian girl with the best mid-size rack i have ever seen. not pert, but well rounded and had her hair tied up with no tattoos. she was very attractive and confident. i cannot remember her name; was it another diana? when i approached her at the desk, she gave me a scowling look, but i persisted and asked to join her on the sofa. i felt this was optiflick time, but i said to myself, why not, she's hot.

initially she was cold, but a little small talk, and blowing me on the sofa, we made our way upstairs.

she didm; t want to kiss me on the lips, unlike other guests, but that was fine by me. her blow job was with too much teeth, but i did enjoy 69 licking her out. she started twitching when i licked her pussy, and felt she was holding bak from having an orgasim. again against my inner voice, i went on top of her bareback and she felt good. when i flipped her over and gripped her ass cheeks, i wen deep inside her. she said to me "now come" and she blew me to completion. i was going to avoid her, but am happy that time with her was not bad at all.

the time was 3 pm and there were more male guests in the club. i left the club very happy as five and a half hours flew by.

i would say tina was the best in being sensual even with condom sex, not rushed at all. the large breasted diana with glasses was also great. i just loved cupping her solid breasts.

and the optiflick diana number 2 (i think) was the hottest and the busiest. with a girl like her, one has to take the reins immediately and dictate. or you will not get the best out of your half hour with her.

and also, there is no pressure not to use a condom. the choice is yours.

i just want to thank fellow guests who have posted about this club before. without your reports, i would not have visited the club. i am not on this website often, so i apologise for not answering any comments quickly.

What is the costs of beer or other stuff there. I know that water and soft drinks (no ice) is free. Also extra sessions beyond 3 paid is 40 Euros. Is that correct?

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1572557]What is the costs of beer or other stuff there. I know that water and soft drinks (no ice) is free. Also extra sessions beyond 3 paid is 40 Euros. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]No beer. Coffee & the crappy survival rations they provide are free. Cola light costs extra!

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1572557]What is the costs of beer or other stuff there. I know that water and soft drinks (no ice) is free. Also extra sessions beyond 3 paid is 40 Euros. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]Yes, 40 EUR for any extra sessions. And there's NO beer available.

HB.

I arrived at Dietzenbach about 7 PM, after checking into my hotel, having earlier that day been at VV and the day before at Arabella and Grimberg (see that thread for report). Again, 8 pictures at the reception, none of whom looked fuckable. I asked if I could look at the girls in the lounge down the steps from the reception but was told no, I could only look at the pictures. Not wanting to fuck any of them based on their pictures and not wanting to possibly waste 70 Euro, I left, probably to the surprise of the thekefrau at the reception. I thought about going to Mainhattan since it was still early, but not wanting to possibly infect anyone there if I had caught something that day or the day before because of the barebacking, I just went back to my hotel.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1559566] Those towels are the worst I have seen. [/QUOTE]Hello,

What do you mean by "those towels are the worst you have seen"? They are dirty? They are too small? Something else?

And bathrobes are not available?

[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;1580893]Hello,

What do you mean by "those towels are the worst you have seen"? They are dirty? They are too small? Something else?

And bathrobes are not available?[/QUOTE]No bathrobes. Towels in my opinion on the small side, well worn, and hard to keep wrapped. I am bringing a clip to secure next time. Not dirty, but hard to keep on when walking around. No problem for ladies to reach under and start BJ while on couch.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1581006]Towels in my opinion on the small side, [/QUOTE]They have two different sizes in towels.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1581137]They have two different sizes in towels.

HB.[/QUOTE]Guess I did not find larger ones.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1581006]Towels in my opinion on the small side - - - No problem for ladies to reach under and start BJ while on couch.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1580888]I arrived at Dietzenbach about 7 PM, after checking into my hotel, having earlier that day been at VV and the day before at Arabella and Grimberg (see that thread for report). Again, 8 pictures at the reception, none of whom looked fuckable. I asked if I could look at the girls in the lounge down the steps from the reception but was told no, I could only look at the pictures. Not wanting to fuck any of them based on their pictures and not wanting to possibly waste 70 Euro, I left, probably to the surprise of the thekefrau at the reception. I thought about going to Mainhattan since it was still early, but not wanting to possibly infect anyone there if I had caught something that day or the day before because of the barebacking, I just went back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]You made the right choice.

I wasted 120 Euros in exchange of 1 so-so session and 2 money-wasting sessions.

Among my 3 sessions, only 1 of them is of average looking.

The other 2. I would rather close my eyes when I tried to fuck the other 2.

To foreign tourists who only visit Germany few times a year / only visit Germany for sex, do not waste your time or your money to small clubs like this one and the Red Light District (the ones in front of the Frankfurt central train station area).

This club and the Red Light District are not even worth checking out.

You may even get seriously ripped off in the Red Light District if you have an obvious foreign face and lack of german language.

I wasted 120 Euros in this club, and 100 Euros in the Red Light District to make this conclusion.

I arrived in Germany this day, rented a car at the Frankfurt airport and headed to Dietzenbach. I arrived there at 9 :30 PM. I sat with Vanessa, Romanian, who spoke good English. We talked and she started the blow job while we were sitting. She told me she did everything but anal and off to the room we went. This was the first sex I had in a long time and it felt so good. The reason to go to Dietzenbach instead of the bigger clubs was to get the feeling of having AO sex. It is worth it for me. Vanessa is thin. I liked her breasts, they were perfect for her body build. She had a pleasant smile and personality and we talked before and after sex. I feel like I made a friend.

After relaxing awhile, I picked another Romanian, Carmen. She was blonde, cute face, perky breasts and nice round bottom. She spoke some English. She did everything except anal. I won't forget her blow job. I will be in Germany for 3 weeks and I will be surprised if I get a better one. But we all love surprises, don't we. I will return to Dietzenbach to be with my new friend Vanessa and to experience Carmen's special talent before I leave. BTW, my towel almost wrapped around me twice and I am about 200 lbs. My dislike about Dietzenbach is the smoking, but it wasn't an issue with the girls smelling like smoke, just the overall smell in the club had a smokey flavor.

[QUOTE=GoLuckie;1581865]I arrived in Germany this day, rented a car at the Frankfurt airport and headed to Dietzenbach. I arrived there at 9 :30 PM. I sat with Vanessa, Romanian, who spoke good English. We talked and she started the blow job while we were sitting. She told me she did everything but anal and off to the room we went. This was the first sex I had in a long time and it felt so good. The reason to go to Dietzenbach instead of the bigger clubs was to get the feeling of having AO sex. It is worth it for me. Vanessa is thin. I liked her breasts, they were perfect for her body build. She had a pleasant smile and personality and we talked before and after sex. I feel like I made a friend.

After relaxing awhile, I picked another Romanian, Carmen. She was blonde, cute face, perky breasts and nice round bottom. She spoke some English. She did everything except anal. I won't forget her blow job. I will be in Germany for 3 weeks and I will be surprised if I get a better one. But we all love surprises, don't we. I will return to Dietzenbach to be with my new friend Vanessa and to experience Carmen's special talent before I leave. BTW, my towel almost wrapped around me twice and I am about 200 lbs. My dislike about Dietzenbach is the smoking, but it wasn't an issue with the girls smelling like smoke, just the overall smell in the club had a smokey flavor.[/QUOTE]Well, done, sir! If you travel a bit farther to the northeast along the A-3, there is FKK Dolce Vita Raubach. It's the same type of club as Dietzenbach -- almost identical in girl quality and size, and, of course, the service. You can check out the thread here on ISG. As for the smoking, it's nearly ipossible to get away from it in Germany and in most of Europe.

Enjoy the rest of your visit!

I am coming to Frankfurt next week and have been contemplating a visit to Dietzenbach. My big concern is that some reviewers here indicate that none of the girls are fuckable based on their looks. Am looking for some sort of scale to judge whether it is worthwhile to visit.

I usually go to the palace where I think most of the girls are 7's and 8's, with a few 9's and 10's around. I'm generally pretty happy with the looks there. Are there any girls at dietzenbach of similar quality?

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;1582877]I am coming to Frankfurt next week and have been contemplating a visit to Dietzenbach. My big concern is that some reviewers here indicate that none of the girls are fuckable based on their looks. Am looking for some sort of scale to judge whether it is worthwhile to visit.

I usually go to the palace where I think most of the girls are 7's and 8's, with a few 9's and 10's around. I'm generally pretty happy with the looks there. Are there any girls at dietzenbach of similar quality?[/QUOTE]I think the real trade-off between Dietzenbach and any of the FRA-area FKKs is not the quality of the girls. The trade-off is between covered and bareback sex. That's how I think you should make your decision.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1583105]I think the real trade-off between Dietzenbach and any of the FRA-area FKKs is not the quality of the girls. The trade-off is between covered and bareback sex. That's how I think you should make your decision.[/QUOTE]Yep, I totally understand that. The allure of Dietzenback is AO sex. I am just wondering if any of the girls there are attractive enough to even have sex with. For example, if you said the girls are mostly homely, but there's always at least one that's a 7 or 8 looks-wise, that works for me. If they are all 5's and 6's or worse, I have absolutely no interest, AO or not.

I am not interested in AO sex with working girls. I think Dietzenbach is great. Why? Value for money. Where else can you get 3 30-minute sessions for EUR 120 in total, including CIM, swallow, anal, rimming (you on her or her on you), DATY, massage? Yes, maybe some of the girls at some of the FKK clubs look a bet prettier (depending on taste), but it is simply not true that Dietzenbach has low quality in looks. Especially if you are into more natural girls, Dietzenbach might even be better. And I doubt the quality is better anywhere else.

I visited FKK Dietzenbach the 6th of July from 10:15 am to 2 pm.

Found the club quite easily with a GPS. Not far from FRA airport.

Arrived quite early (the club opens at 10:00) and girls were still arriving by taxi in their street clothes.

Thekefrau welcomed me nicely. She showed me the girls present that day on the board: small pictures of the girls with detail of their services. She explained to me their system and insisted that there were no extra fees. Went for the three sessions plus entrance at 120 euros.

Went to the small locker room and then to the shower. The club itself consists of:

- locker room.

- shower and sauna (same room).

- huge L shaped room with sofas.

- 4 or five "fuck rooms" on the basement right next to the sofas.

- a few "fuck rooms" on the first floor.

- a small garden (did not check).

The girls are sitting naked on the sofas: only one girl per sofa. They do not make the first move.

IMHO the atmosphere is quite relaxed and nice. The girls seem to know each other (but not to the point of talking together and ignoring you). Some of them help with the chores: emptying the ashtrays, folding the towels, etc. Girls were asking now and then if everything was ok.

I found the visual quality of the girls quite good. OK, some of them were a bit older, some of them were slightly overweight (I said slightly), but many of them were really beautiful.

Each session started with foundling and blow job on the couch in the middle of everyone, unless the punter did not want it. Not much to do between the sessions, apart from watching the ladies and their skills.

So, I sat here and there to observe and check the girls. After an hour or so I still was not decided, and girls were still arriving (I would stay that there were 12+ ladies by 11:30) . I sat on the left of the room where there were four girls, two of which I was thinking about. They were chatting together except one who seemed a bit shy. One guy went to the shy girl and sat next to her. He tried to talk to her but she could not understand, so he talked to the girl on his right and asked for a threesome: the girl on the right said that it was the shy girl's first day and that he should go a bit slowly. The threesome was maybe a bit hardcore for a first session. But see what happened next! He laughed. And so they started their session as usual on the sofa: she went down on him to give him a blow job. Then he asked her to ride him cowgirl right there (AO). She did it and was even given advices by the girls sitting on the sofas. The session went on for quite a while and it ended after several positons in a cream pie in cowgirl. Excellent.

As soon as the shy (cream pied) girl went back she was grabbed by another punter. Had to wait my turn as the public session and the fact that it was her first day made me choose her of course.

Finally I went to her and she started kissing straight away and went down on me. Her blow job skills were pretty good. Went to a room. Blowjob while I was fingering her pussy and ass. Then I wanted to fuck her with a condom, but she said. No. No fucking with a condom. LOL. So she just continued her blow job and I came strongly with a massive cumshaw in her mouth: she took it all on and in her mouth and continued to suck me clean for a few minutes. A good session with a great ending.

Went downstairs, the Thekefrau took my card to write down the name of the girl on my card and asked me if everything was ok, if the session was good. The girl received a coin. Went to the shower and then to the locker to check my cellphone: had an emergency meeting so had to left the club early with two unused sessions.

Gave the keys back to the Thekefrau who once again asked me if I enjoyed my stay and why I had to leave early.

Conclusion.

I would maybe compare this club to the famous Bernds. I am not as experienced as many of the punters on this board, but IMHO there are strong common points between these two clubs (at least form what I experienced) :

- family / cosy atmosphere.

- public blowjob to start the session.

- public sessions.

- few extras (in the case of FKK Dietzenbach, not extras at all).

I really liked my experience there even if I am not in AO (well. Eh. Not in AO without test I mean). Loved the public BJ and sex. Loved the atmosphere. Loved the "no extras" and the fact that the girls have few if no tabus at all (not the kind of girls who after a CIM run to spit your cum. They either swallow or take their time to finish the job). Great price too.

Hey guys,

I am planning another trip for a few days and was just wondering if anything is new at Club Dietz. No new reports since the beginning of July.

[QUOTE=Panhead;1606891]Hey guys,

I am planning another trip for a few days and was just wondering if anything is new at Club Dietz. No new reports since the beginning of July.[/QUOTE]Some more recent posts on German boards.

[QUOTE=Gggfan;1591714]I ..... had an emergency meeting so had to left the club early with two unused sessions ... [/QUOTE]I don't know the place as AO isn't mine. But in case you have to leave unexpectedly and you might be interested to come back some hours later, perhaps you could ask next time the woman at the reception if there is a possibility to do so. In other clubs I know it's practiced this way.

You can leave and come back in between sessions.

HB.

I will add a full report if anyone asks. I wanted to go back to my favourites Ina, Tina and Milena and was told that the first two were there and that the second would soon arrive. It turned out that Milena had cancelled at the last minute. Ina assured me that she had been planning to come, so it's not that the Thekenfrau (older, not topless) was dishonest. Ina suggested Diana as a replacement.

Ina and Tina were wonderful as always. I found that Ina will also do rimming, at least with me. I also brought Tina to a genuine orgasm.

Diana is AO, so I avoided licking her. Otherwise, excellent service (we fucked with condom). She has the best tits there, slightly hanging the / E, completely natural, of course.

There are new safes where the old ones used to be (the old ones aren't that old; it used to be just the lockers), a bit narrow but everything one can carry in pockets will fit.

This is my today experience.

Arrived there from airport (45€/25 min ride) at 10.10 am I was in, the first customer and #1 lock key.

The place has already been described, one huge room with sofas, were girl are seated, and you have to go because they don't move from there.

Had the 3 x90 ticket.

Ramona, 25+/- rumanian had very nice BBBJ with a lot of effort and CIM, AO sex was offered, but declined.

Cristina, 20 something rumanian, 1,75 tall but with two "empty" titties. Speak no german and almost no english, but she was the prettiest with anal avaiable, BBBJ And the Covered anal to finish (my choise).

Last was roxana, fake blonde rumanian late 20, she had to work hard for her coin, but at the end I had my CIM.

CONCLUSION.

If you like raw meat this is your place, nothing in common with world, oase, palace. Almost no food, no drink, no space, but you can see an old fat german creampie an early 20 skinny rumanian, or you can do it yourself.

Lineup was 15 girls, 10 probably would not even work at World as cleaning lady, the rest was between 6 and 6,5.

Optically probably only Ramona (ROM), Maya (ROM) and Gaby (BUL) would be "acceptable". The rest indeed (way) below par. All of course high in service, but DFK and fun factor are not easy to get, if you speak little Rumanian / etc it might get a little better.

I always thought that Alice, Nicole, Michaela, Oana are the best looking girls at Dietzenbach.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1609709]I always thought that Alice, Nicole, Michaela, Oana are the best looking girls at Dietzenbach.

HB.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with HB. I would add Anna to my list too.

Alice I agree, but my god, what an attitude this girl has. Would spoil a session completely for me. But she looks great indeed!

[QUOTE=Maxime;1610080]Alice I agree, but my god, what an attitude this girl has. Would spoil a session completely for me. But she looks great indeed![/QUOTE]Attitude? Maybe it's you not her. Had repeat great sessions with her.

HB.

Alice is a pistol. She doesn't take shit from anyone. If she clicks with you, she is great fun in and out of the zimmer. I have been with her since her days in Grimberg, to Alina, and now Dietzenbach.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1610170]Attitude? Maybe it's you not her. Had repeat great sessions with her.

HB.[/QUOTE]Hmm, maybe it's you LOL.

Hey guys,

Do you know if Julia is still working at Deitzenbach FKK? She's a taller Romanian girl with tats and dark hair?

I hope so!

[QUOTE=Maxime;1610080]Alice I agree, but my god, what an attitude this girl has. Would spoil a session completely for me. But she looks great indeed![/QUOTE]I agree with HB & Sportsman, Alice is a great session. Like Sportsman, I have also known her since her days at Grim. She has many regulars & is by far the busiest girl at Dietz. Maybe the 2 of you just did not click.

Hi all,

I paid my first visit to FKK Dietzenbach on the 14th. The day before I had been to a Spermagames party in Karlsruhe, but I had been a bit too tired to make the most of it and only cummed twice. Now well rested, I arrived at the club just before noon and could stay there for around four hours. I paid for three sessions.

A new friend I met at the Spermagames party had recommended two girls: Alice and Roxana, both blondes. Both were there (and certainly good looking to me), so I planned to do them first and last, and try out another girl in between. I started off with Alice. She has a very direct manner, and we went straight off to a room on the bottom floor. She started sucking me while I rubber her pussy. Then she went on top of me and rode me, quite frenziedly after an easy start. After a few minutes of this lovely activity, she stepped off and laid down on her back, beckoning me to enter in missionary. I did so, and wow!, could she fuck in that position too! Not usually my best position, but with Alice it was different. She thrust her hips against me expertly, and soon I had no choice but to surrender my load to her pussy. A good, rather quick, start of the day with a girl who appears very professional in a good sense of the word. Great "sport fucking". I will definitely choose to session with her again in the future.

I then took some time to rest & recuperate, using the time to eye the other girls and try to decide on the girl for my second session. There were at least a handful sexy candidates, and some who were not so tempting (but most of those were non-AO anyway). In the end I selected a young, cute girl by the name Jana. She did not have Alice's professional directness, and rather than taking initiative she asked me how I preferred things. While she seemed a bit less experienced, she was still eager to please me, and we had a very good session in a spacious room on the top floor. We started off with a 69, followed by cowgirl and doggy style until I filled her with cream. I lasted a bit longer now, and it was a very rewarding climax. I will not hesitate to session with Jana again, either.

After this I was feeling the drowsiness creeping up on me again, and I fell asleep in a sofa for a little while. One of the girls woke me up, telling me loudly that I was not in a hotel. I had some fruit and coca-cola to regain energy. As it was nearing the time when I had to do my last session, I tried to look for Roxana, but she was not available. I held out for ten or fifteen minutes, hoping that she would show up, but she didn't. Instead my choice fell upon Lori, who had been the first girl to greet me when I got to the club and who had almost been my choice for the second session. Unlike the other two girls, Lori didn't speak any English, so I had to use my limited German. That went relatively well. Starting off with a blow job, she expressed surprise about the size of my dick. When we were about to start fucking, she asked me to be very cautious, so I took probably a minute to slowly push into her very tight pussy in missionary. After a little while of gentle rocking, I could fuck her harder without fear of hurting her. It felt very good, but would not be enough for me to unload for the third time this day, so I asked her if I could take her from behind. We shifted to that position, and it took a while, but eventually I got the best orgasm of the day. Another very successful session, and another likely future repeat.

As can plainly be read, I had a very good time and look forward to visit FKK Dietzenbach again.

Hi all,

This forum is absolutely incredible. So much information that it will take me several months of research before my long awaited Euro trip, LOL. It seems to me that FKK Dietzenbach is the FKK with the most value bang for the buck, low price with great service, with some compromise for quality but one cannot be greedy right?

There s only one things I am wondering about: the highlight of this FKK is AO, but how safe is it?? They may check the girls regularly but how can they know if the guys is safe? So isn't too much risk for the WG there??

Have anybody heard any incidents of STD there?

I am an Asian from Vietnam and always dream of about doing AO with Euro girls but conservative mind come to play and constantly checking for reassurance LOL.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Ito038;1624305]There s only one things I am wondering about: the highlight of this FKK is AO, but how safe is it?? They may check the girls regularly but how can they know if the guys is safe? So isn't too much risk for the WG there??

Have anybody heard any incidents of STD there?

I am an Asian from Vietnam and always dream of about doing AO with Euro girls but conservative mind come to play and constantly checking for reassurance LOL.[/QUOTE]There's always a risk whether p4 p or the girl you are banging at home. All clubs have some sort of STD incidents once in a while. Jerking off is the only 100% safe option. If you want to bang Euro babes AO, then go for it. You can always check to see if there are any open sores, warts, discharge or if it smells like a sardines twat.

Dietzenbach might be more open about AO, but AO is going on in all clubs. Big, small, RLD, private apartments & etc.

How safe it is? No idea. Girls are checked regularly for STD.

HB.

[QUOTE=Ito038;1624305]Have anybody heard any incidents of STD there?

I am an Asian from Vietnam and always dream of about doing AO with Euro girls but conservative mind come to play and constantly checking for reassurance LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Nobody will give you reassurance. You only can decide if fulfilling your "dream" is worth some kind of risk. . Make up your own mind! And, BTW, if you decide to play "safe" nothing stops you to ask for a condom,.

[QUOTE=Ito038;1624305]
There s only one things I am wondering about: the highlight of this FKK is AO, but how safe is it?? They may check the girls regularly but how can they know if the guys is safe? So isn't too much risk for the WG there??

Have anybody heard any incidents of STD there?
[/QUOTE]Obviously, it is much safer to wear a condom. It is unlikely that their STD check includes all STDs. Plus, the gestation period of STDs makes it possible for the tests to show negative when someone is still carrying the infection. You should always wear a condom. Read the safe sex thread for more background and information.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1624849] You should always wear a condom.[/QUOTE]Really? What would be your reaction if somebody was saying: "you should always do it with your wife?

[QUOTE=Dreams;1625263]Really? What would be your reaction if somebody was saying: "you should always do it with your wife?[/QUOTE]The OP was obviously not informed sufficiently about the actual risks to be able to make the fully-informed decision / analysis that other more experienced members have made.

Certainly, experienced drivers and those who have studied traffic statistics can make a fully informed decision about whether or not to wear a seat belt. Imagine someone new to driving with no experience with driving, how likely auto collisions are, etc (maybe someone from a country that doesn't have cars). In such a situation, it probably makes sense to recommend to that person to always wear a seat belt (at least until they are more experienced and can decide to not wear a seat belt later).

Sure, a longer answer could include a lengthy explanation of the risks involved and the consequences he should consider (does he have a wife, etc). If you want to take a stab at providing the OP with all of that info so that he can make such a more fully considered analysis, please be my guest. I won't stand in your way.

I was just sharing my personal recommendation with the OP. Better safe than sorry I say. You are welcome to share your own advice with the OP.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1625497]The OP was obviously not informed sufficiently about the actual risks to be able to make the fully-informed decision / analysis that other more experienced members have made.

I was just sharing my personal recommendation with the OP. Better safe than sorry I say. You are welcome to share your own advice with the OP.[/QUOTE]I do not share your patronizing approach.

And there is a specific thread to discuss all this, rather than having again and again debates like this in all threads.

Boring.

Arrived around 2:30 PM. S2 from HBF to Dietzenbach and 15 minute walk. Chose 3 x. First Nadin and she was the best choice. DFK on couch and BBJ. Then to room and more BBJ and finished in mouth. She said she was 22 and had been there a year, black hair past tits and petite. As usual little food. After an hour tried Alina sorta of straight blonde mostly brown hair to shoulders. Only light kisses on couch and room but nice BBJ on couch and room. In room after BBJ she climbed on top of me AO and finished. She also claimed to be 22 and there a week. And as soon as possible hit the showers. Some fruit available and I saw some guys getting long weiners from hot pan. 12 or 13 girls and a bit more guys. Finally chose Lisa who had been sitting alone for awhile. Not a great choice. No action on couch and little kissing in room but BBJ there and finish AO. Left around 6 PM and walked to bahnhof which was about 40 minutes late.

I thought so too, but when I asked, it does not look like the clubs require regular sTD checking, or pay for it, or administer the tests to the girls.

At best, it seems like the girls get themselves tested.

In any case, not all clubs do it. And no one has given me any answer how regular is that regular testing.

It would be in all the clubs's interests to publish these stats and policies on their website. I. e "we check all our girls thoroughly for all problems, every Friday, or every second Friday, and in total, in the lat year, we provided xxxx number of total tests in our premises". Would put a lot of guys at ease.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1624749]How safe it is? No idea. Girls are checked regularly for STD.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1627045]I thought so too, but when I asked, it does not look like the clubs require regular sTD checking, or pay for it, or administer the tests to the girls.

At best, it seems like the girls get themselves tested.

In any case, not all clubs do it. And no one has given me any answer how regular is that regular testing.

It would be in all the clubs's interests to publish these stats and policies on their website. I. e "we check all our girls thoroughly for all problems, every Friday, or every second Friday, and in total, in the lat year, we provided xxxx number of total tests in our premises". Would put a lot of guys at ease.[/QUOTE]Not sure about other clubs, but I have seen doctors arrive at some of the RTC clubs. The counter lady calls the girls name & off they to get tested. I have only seen this at Venus, Arabella & Romantika. Seems like these doctors show up at all the related clubs.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1627045]IWould put a lot of guys at ease.[/QUOTE]Probably, but that would be misplaced.

If a girl does say 5 guys a day, just calculate the risks that she could have been infected since the last test, keeping in mind that HIV, for example is not detected within 3 weeks of getting infected.

At the end of the day, you do it or not, but trying to convince yourself with whatever ways that there are no risks is just kidding yourself.

Sorry, I should not have answered, this should be moved to the specific thread on so called safe sex, which by the way does not exist.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1627045]I thought so too, but when I asked, it does not look like the clubs require regular sTD checking, or pay for it, or administer the tests to the girls.

At best, it seems like the girls get themselves tested.

In any case, not all clubs do it. And no one has given me any answer how regular is that regular testing.

It would be in all the clubs's interests to publish these stats and policies on their website. I. e "we check all our girls thoroughly for all problems, every Friday, or every second Friday, and in total, in the lat year, we provided xxxx number of total tests in our premises". Would put a lot of guys at ease.[/QUOTE]If you want to visit a club where the girls are tested weekly, go to Austria. Every club girl has a health card (required by law in Austria). Each girl gets a weekly check-up (visual inspection by doctor). Every six weeks, the visit includes a blood draw for more detailed testing. If a girl fails the test, she cannot return to work until she is able to pass the test again (for curable STDs). Of course, I am not aware of any AO in Austria. See my report posted here as one example of a place that does weekly testing in Austria: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1625-Graz&p=1593794&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1593794.

Arrived from S2 around 2 PM. 15 girls / pics. First Oana, kissing and BBJ on couch as usual then to room. More BJ and asked to condom and started with on top and later switched to mission. Finish and short cuddle. An hour later sat with Nadin who I thought was great Sunday. DFK on couch and BBJ. To room more kissing and cuddle and BBJ until AO in mission. After some time wilted but more BBJ and a return to mission. Some time later I got close but did not finish. I was ready to go but she insisted on massage. So nice long back massage with cream and then I did massage on her. She was the best I had a chance to visit. Long black hair to middle of back, petite, and to me, cute somewhat innocent face. Her pic at reception does not to justice. After another hour tried Andrea with glasses and one pierced nipple. Some LFK on couch and BBJ and to room. Okay BJ and she applied condom. Not sure if she is AO. To the mission but in the end did not finish but okay, but would choose her again.

Showered for last time and left about 6 PM. S bahn 2 was almost an hour late. 15 sitting there after finally arriving.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1627510]Arrived from S2 around 2 PM. 15 girls / pics. First Oana, kissing and BBJ on couch as usual then to room. More BJ and asked to condom and started with on top and later switched to mission. Finish and short cuddle. An hour later sat with Nadin who I thought was great Sunday. DFK on couch and BBJ. To room more kissing and cuddle and BBJ until AO in mission. After some time wilted but more BBJ and a return to mission. Some time later I got close but did not finish. I was ready to go but she insisted on massage. So nice long back massage with cream and then I did massage on her. She was the best I had a chance to visit. Long black hair to middle of back, petite, and to me, cute somewhat innocent face. Her pic at reception does not to justice. After another hour tried Andrea with glasses and one pierced nipple. Some LFK on couch and BBJ and to room. Okay BJ and she applied condom. Not sure if she is AO. To the mission but in the end did not finish but okay, but would choose her again.

Showered for last time and left about 6 PM. S bahn 2 was almost an hour late. 15 sitting there after finally arriving.[/QUOTE]AO = Alles ohne in German. Did you say you did it without cover?

That's what HE said. ALDI is a BB club.

HB.

[QUOTE=PoppMaster;1627832]AO = Alles ohne in German. Did you say you did it without cover?[/QUOTE]Yes, I know what it means.

Double good shower after.

Back again via S bahn and walk, found a couple of minutes short cut. Arrived about 2 PM. Saw Nadin getting key with another guy so waited for her. As soon as she was back waved her to sit down. Calls me "Teddy Bear", probably calls everyone that. Some DFK on couch and BBJ and to room. Started with kissing, then attention to small nice breasts and then DATY. After nice long BJ went to the mission AO. Then cuddled for awhile and she wanted to smuggle and sleep for five minutes. I think she had been very busy already that day. After an hour had Anka sit with me, she is shorter with longish black hair and larger tits. A bit of kissing on couch and BJ and to room. BJ in room and then chose condom and to mission but wilted so she spent a lot of time with another BBJ but while the old guy was close neither finished. Okay, but did not allow FIV. Another hour and chose Vanessa, said 23, also petite with lighter streak of top of hair and Japanese tattoo on side of stomach. Some kisses but no BJ couch action. To room and BJ and then condom, eventually wilted, more BJ, then more mission with condom but again no finish, but okay and my 3 times were done. Had some coffee and watched and left around 6:30. I like the place and there are enough girls to fill my 3 X card. 17 pics today and maybe similar or bit more guys, some come and go.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1627510]After another hour tried Andrea with glasses and one pierced nipple. Some LFK on couch and BBJ and to room. Okay BJ and she applied condom. Not sure if she is AO.[/QUOTE]Andrea does not do AO, but she does anal, covered.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1628064]Back again via S bahn and walk, found a couple of minutes short cut. Arrived about 2 PM. Saw Nadin getting key with another guy so waited for her. As soon as she was back waved her to sit down. Calls me "Teddy Bear", probably calls everyone that. Some DFK on couch and BBJ and to room. Started with kissing, then attention to small nice breasts and then DATY. After nice long BJ went to the mission AO. Then cuddled for awhile and she wanted to smuggle and sleep for five minutes. I like the place and there are enough girls to fill my 3 X card. 17 pics today and maybe similar or bit more guys, some come and go.[/QUOTE]Dietcoke,

This place gets such mixed reviews I have been debating whether it's worth the adventure. But based how much fun you seem to be single-handedly having there consistently, I have it on my definitely to try list.

[QUOTE=Kib123;1628142]This place gets such mixed reviews I have been debating whether it's worth the adventure. But based how much fun you seem to be single-handedly having there consistently, I have it on my definitely to try list.[/QUOTE]If you want to cream pie a few pretty girls & mostly GND types, then this is the place to go. If you want nice facilities, food & really hot ladies, then the large FKK's is the place to go.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1628220]If you want to cream pie a few pretty girls & mostly GND types, then this is the place to go. If you want nice facilities, food & really hot ladies, then the large FKK's is the place to go.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the food and drink (no ice) is bad, but I thought a few of the girls were cute.

Surprised about lack of reports. Reports continue on the German boards. If you do not mind smoke and lack of food, I find it a good value.

So I did a short vacation trip to Oase, World, Palace and Dietzenbach last week. Guess who I find the hottest one IMHO? Sarah at Dietzenbach! Way hotter and better service than most others in any of the places I been in this trip, plus creampies! Only thing could be better is if she spoke English or if I spoke Romanian. Too bad Alice didn't get any of my sperms. I would visit Frankfurt just to see Sarah again LOL. Do anyone else feel the same way? Would love to hear others' stories.

[QUOTE=Gino02;1645922]So I did a short vacation trip to Oase, World, Palace and Dietzenbach last week. Guess who I find the hottest one IMHO? Sarah at Dietzenbach! Way hotter and better service than most others in any of the places I been in this trip, plus creampies! Only thing could be better is if she spoke English or if I spoke Romanian. Too bad Alice didn't get any of my sperms. I would visit Frankfurt just to see Sarah again LOL. Do anyone else feel the same way? Would love to hear others' stories.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I have been surprised not more reports here. Did you drive or use S bahn?

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1646186]Thanks for the report. I have been surprised not more reports here. Did you drive or use S bahn?[/QUOTE]I drove. Got to a BMW x3 from Dollar rent a car for $75 per day including all taxes and full insurance, much better than worrying about public transit late in the night IMHO.

[QUOTE=Gino02;1646227]I drove. Got to a BMW x3 from Dollar rent a car for $75 per day including all taxes and full insurance, much better than worrying about public transit late in the night IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's located in a deserted and dark industrial area. I drive there as well.

I did take a quick look at public transport. Using the English version of Bahn. De, and picking the main Frankfurt train station as the starting point, I can do a direct S-Bahn (no changes) with a 16-minute walk (48 min) or a S-bahn & bus combo with a 3-minute walk (44 min). You would have to be leaving by about 22:45 or you would be stuck there until 04:00. I can't figure out how to pull up the fare, but, it's apparently fully refundable and changeable.

I wouldn't call it an industrial or dark area. There's bunch of car dealerships, a gym, a gas station, bunch of grocery stores right around the FKK Dietzenbach in minutes walking distance. I felt the area is quite safe and typical suburbia. Earlier once I needed cab, Theke Frau called one for me and it came in couple of minutes.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1646395]I agree. It's located in a deserted and dark industrial area. I drive there as well.

I did take a quick look at public transport. Using the English version of Bahn. De, and picking the main Frankfurt train station as the starting point, I can do a direct S-Bahn (no changes) with a 16-minute walk (48 min) or a S-bahn & bus combo with a 3-minute walk (44 min). You would have to be leaving by about 22:45 or you would be stuck there until 04:00. I can't figure out how to pull up the fare, but, it's apparently fully refundable and changeable.[/QUOTE]

I've been meaning to go to Dietzenbach for a while now. Can someone tell me how many girls work there throughout the day, and what the quality is like?

How many off them can you creampie? How many do anal?

On the website they barely have any pictures. Only Silke, Jessi, Julia, and Daisy?

Has anyone tried Jessi or Julia?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Gino02;1646848]I wouldn't call it an industrial or dark area. There's bunch of car dealerships, a gym, a gas station, bunch of grocery stores right around the FKK Dietzenbach in minutes walking distance. I felt the area is quite safe and typical suburbia. Earlier once I needed cab, Theke Frau called one for me and it came in couple of minutes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this intel. I have the club #1 on my list (thanks in no small part to Diet Coke's reviews) for a next month FRA visit, and was counting on public transport. I have a rail pass.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]I've been meaning to go to Dietzenbach for a while now. Can someone tell me how many girls work there throughout the day, and what the quality is like?

How many off them can you creampie? How many do anal?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Alice, hot FKK type babe. Seems aloof, provides Great service.

Michaela, very attractive, moody & ymmv.

Roxana & Dana good looking for an rtc. Roxana rocks in bed!

Carmen, older (33-36) great service.

All cream pie or AO total.

Some are condom only & some provide anal. Not sure what the new girls look like. Line up 18-30 girls.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]I've been meaning to go to Dietzenbach for a while now. Can someone tell me how many girls work there throughout the day, and what the quality is like?

[/QUOTE]This is from a post on German board on Nov. 19.

Here is the current lineup: Milena PL Tina IND Alice RO RO Anka Anna RO RO Bianca Carmen RO RO Dana Dani RO Jessy BG Maja RO RO Mari Michaela RO RO Nina Oana RO RO Sarah Vanessa RO.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]I've been meaning to go to Dietzenbach for a while now. Can someone tell me how many girls work there throughout the day, and what the quality is like?
[/QUOTE]I've written several reports. Some of them are rather old, but nothing significant has changed. Check out my detailed reports for the information you need.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]
How many off them can you creampie? How many do anal?
[/QUOTE]There are pictures at the bar with their names and saying what they do. "Mache alles" is a code word for "without condom". Many, probably most these days, offer bareback service, but probably only a third of these offer anal. Whether they offer bareback anal I don't know. I guess if they offer service without a condom then a creampie is on the menu.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]
On the website they barely have any pictures. Only Silke, Jessi, Julia, and Daisy?
[/QUOTE]The pictures have been the same for more than a decade. Whether any of these are still there, I don't know. There is a pretty high turnover rate.

My favourites are Ina, Tina and Milena. Most of the girls there are thin, but I like plump girls. Ina is at the lower end of my taste. Nice body, curly hair, good attitude, good service. She does deep throat and you can come in her throat. Tina is a bit older and obviously Asian. Long hair. More relaxed, but almost a GFE and does good massage. (Ina does as well but I think she prefers not doing it for very long.) Milena is really skinny with small, hanging tits. Not my type at all but a really great attitude and really good service. She will also lick your arse from the inside. She also does good light massage. None of these do anal, none do fucking without a condom, but all do BBBJCIM and at least Ina also swallows.

I am planning a second visit to Dietzenbach on the 7 or 8 of December. Last time it was hit and miss of which girls offer AO total with cum in pussy. Are there any specific words or phrases I should look for on the pictures of the girls to find the ones that are AO total? Also can you take two girls at once (I know you burn through what you paid for faster, I am ok with that). Also any suggestions on girls that would do public sex and fuck on the sofa in the lounge?

I will be there the 7 and or 8th, if any one wants to meet up then message me.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1649941]I am planning a second visit to Dietzenbach on the 7 or 8 of December. Last time it was hit and miss of which girls offer AO total with cum in pussy. Are there any specific words or phrases I should look for on the pictures of the girls to find the ones that are AO total? Also can you take two girls at once (I know you burn through what you paid for faster, I am ok with that). Also any suggestions on girls that would do public sex and fuck on the sofa in the lounge?

I will be there the 7 and or 8th, if any one wants to meet up then message me.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I really enjoy Dietzenbach it really feeds my cheap side. Look for the little glittery heart on the pic of the girls they are AO. Yes you can do two at the same time all the time, a waste in my book, but I am all for checking things off the list, Public sex at least a BBBJ on the couch is the norm slipping it in right there should be no problem at all.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1649941]I am planning a second visit to Dietzenbach on the 7 or 8 of December. Last time it was hit and miss of which girls offer AO total with cum in pussy. Are there any specific words or phrases I should look for on the pictures of the girls to find the ones that are AO total? Also can you take two girls at once (I know you burn through what you paid for faster, I am ok with that). Also any suggestions on girls that would do public sex and fuck on the sofa in the lounge?

I will be there the 7 and or 8th, if any one wants to meet up then message me.[/QUOTE]I never been in Dietzenbach, but I visit many RTC club in NRW and if they have the same rules, yes you can take two girls at once. On the pictures I think you have to look about the girls "mache alles".

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1649941]I am planning a second visit to Dietzenbach on the 7 or 8 of December. Last time it was hit and miss of which girls offer AO total with cum in pussy. Are there any specific words or phrases I should look for on the pictures of the girls to find the ones that are AO total? Also can you take two girls at once (I know you burn through what you paid for faster, I am ok with that). Also any suggestions on girls that would do public sex and fuck on the sofa in the lounge?

I will be there the 7 and or 8th, if any one wants to meet up then message me.[/QUOTE]I was there last on Saturday Nov 22nd, and I have never seen so much public sex there as that day. I would say this club has considerably more public sex than most of the traditional FKK's (although less than the partytreffs). BBBJ on the sofa before going to the room is pretty much standard unless you stop the girl and say you do not want that. I have continued the session in the lounge several times (i.e. the fucking too) rather than going to the room. The two girls I saw doing public fucking the most that day was Michaela (including with me) and Alice, but I would say that most would do it without any problems. At least half of the fuck sessions I witnessed in the lounge were without condom.

The girls were really busy that day, many were going to the rooms almost constantly. They may not earn as much per session as the bigger clubs, but with the cheaper entrance fee (for them) and the large number of sessions they do per day, I suspect they can earn an equivalent amount of money.

[QUOTE=ElGuaje;1646912]I've been meaning to go to Dietzenbach for a while now. Can someone tell me how many girls work there throughout the day, and what the quality is like?

How many off them can you creampie? How many do anal?

On the website they barely have any pictures. Only Silke, Jessi, Julia, and Daisy?

Has anyone tried Jessi or Julia?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Forget the pictures on the website, none of those girls have been working at that club for a long time.

Andrea does anal (covered). Not sure who else currently. I think most that do AO will allow creampie (I do not do AO, but I have witnessed guys doing creampie in the lounge).

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1649941] Also can you take two girls at once (I know you burn through what you paid for faster, I am ok with that).[/QUOTE]Yes, you can take two girls at once at Dietzenbach. I did it once there. It wasn't a great experience but it was because of who I picked. It was a couple of years ago and I can't remember the names of the girls.

[QUOTE=Panhead;1649958]Hi,

I really enjoy Dietzenbach it really feeds my cheap side. Look for the little glittery heart on the pic of the girls they are AO. Yes you can do two at the same time all the time, a waste in my book, but I am all for checking things off the list, Public sex at least a BBBJ on the couch is the norm slipping it in right there should be no problem at all.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's great that there is an AO club so close to FRA. I go for the sex and not so much for the club amenities. The lowest quality German FKK is light years better than anything here in the USA As long as the toilets and showers work. As for public sex, I wonder if the girls like to show off to each other?

[QUOTE=Panhead;1649958]Hi,

I really enjoy Dietzenbach it really feeds my cheap side. Look for the little glittery heart on the pic of the girls they are AO. Yes you can do two at the same time all the time, a waste in my book, but I am all for checking things off the list, Public sex at least a BBBJ on the couch is the norm slipping it in right there should be no problem at all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ChristianG;1650019]I never been in Dietzenbach, but I visit many RTC club in NRW and if they have the same rules, yes you can take two girls at once. On the pictures I think you have to look about the girls "mache alles".[/QUOTE]I'm sorry for asking, but, what does "RTC" stand for? I can't find it in the abbreviation list.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1653497]I'm sorry for asking, but, what does "RTC" stand for? I can't find it in the abbreviation list.[/QUOTE]It's the German term used in the local forum: RTC = Roten Teppich Club => Red Carpet Club. It refers to the chain of AO clubs run by same people such as Dietzenbach, Villa Venus, Grimberg, Arabella, Alina. Etc. It derives from the common interior decoration of these clubs.

One thing I don't quit get is in the local forum, it refers Dietzenbach as Aldi also.

ALDI because you get cheap sex at a discounter type level and good value for money. Same as at ALDI.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1653624]ALDI because you get cheap sex at a discounter type level and good value for money. Same as at ALDI.
[/QUOTE]Right. For those who don't know, Aldi is a major discount grocery store.

ALDI has European and US presence. [URL]https://www.aldi.us/[/URL] Sorry guys, the discounter, not the AO club.

HB.

Just to add Aldi just bought up the Bottom dollar stores in the US. Watch out Oase Dietzenbach could be planning a take over. Dietz is a click above Aldi you can get a bag free at Dietz you have to pay at Aldi.

Yesterday I found 20 pics by the counter, but 1-2 girls didn't have it. Nearly half of them was fuckable at first sight, but the bodies were less firm than they were looking. Entrance 30 + 1 x40,2 x70,3 x90. Dana and Milena, only "survivors" of last year, probably not even recognizing me. I found the club even darker than I remembered, maybe because the small door going to the garden was closed, LOL!, not that it could make a difference in that cave. Since I don't have to "worry" about Myrrh posting ;-) , I can write that while crawling in the darkness I was wondering what photoshop could have been made in the pic he had posted, unless they brought for the occasion stadium's spotlights, LOL!

I sessioned with

- Vanessa, probably the best looking in the overall, slim, not short, teeth ok, wanted to go to the room fairly quickly and pressed me a lot for inviting a friend. In the room straight to blow me, short resistance and hope / hurry to finish ASAP. Let's say she got better with time going by, but not very advisable;

- Ramona, pretty face, short, slim, with little falling boobs, a pity that on the upper arcade she has only (luckily) the central teeth, watching her frontally you appreciate her more and don't notice missing teeth. Service not that great, nor in quality nor in quantity, but she was so nice, so funny, I hope I will meet her again somewhere else;

- Bianca, slim, not too short, small falling boobs, fairly pretty, too speed-oriented, anyway I was in a hurry more than her to catch my flight, so I couldn't enjoy nor appreciate properly, let's say I'd give her another chance if met again.

None of the 3 DFKed, nor allowed fingers, willing to go quickly to the room and come out ASAP, they entertained me more out of the room while waiting for other customers than they entertained me physically in bed. I understood they follow procedures and instructions of the club, maybe the fact of being pratically new there didn't help me, but I was treated nicely also by TF, after a "difficult" start. When it was understood that not only I wasn't an alien landing there by mistake but I knew even all the coackroaches of Arabella, things became easier, really I don't feel like complaining about anything.

Being used to NRW, I didn't have great fun, but it was nice to change club and faces for once, if I went again I'd probably gain better satisfaction and treatment, but it's too far away.

P.S. I have a question, maybe someone know or can find out, maybe HB: how much costs a taxi from the club to the airport? Is it true that it is a fixed amount, no taxmeter?

Sorry, no idea what a taxi to the airport will cost. Will be 50+€. There may be a fix price for airport transfer done by a cab company.

HB.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1658030]Being used to NRW, I didn't have great fun, but it was nice to change club and faces for once, if I went again I'd probably gain better satisfaction and treatment, but it's too far away.

P.S. I have a question, maybe someone know or can find out, maybe HB: how much costs a taxi from the club to the airport? Is it true that it is a fixed amount, no taxmeter?[/QUOTE]Was Alice there? She would have stood out. Maybe she left for the holidays.

Taxi, not sure but only 15-20 minutes drive w / o traffic.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1658227]Was Alice there? She would have stood out. Maybe she left for the holidays.

Taxi, not sure but only 15-20 minutes drive w / o traffic.[/QUOTE]I remembered about this Alice, who can't be the one I fucked in spring in Arabella as discussed on those days. I checked not too carefully to be honest, but no pic by the counter with this name written. Pics are often misleading, I relied on what I could see, even if quite dark. If I had relied on the pics, I wouldn't have taken Vanessa and Ramona (they should sue the photographer) and I would have chosen ugly girls.

"Outstanding" IMHO could be only Dana and Vanessa, bearing in mind that it is not difficult to outstand in RTCs: Ex Romantika ex Arabella (until some 3 weeks ago) bulgarian dwarf Meggy was there, a few whales, some decently fuckable girls, but nothing really great, anyway I can say that I could have chosen also other girls on a further visit. I'd say also that there were at least a couple of girls more or less like F39's Alexandra, just with a bit of falling boobs.

I was ashamed to post it, because my ass is still burning, but since HB (thanks for answering) wrote what he wrote... Well, I confess I paid 43 euros. The thief spoke only german, said no taxmeter, fix price. I couldn't risk the flight for a 15-20 euros theft, I thought about taking his plate number, phone his company... Puff... Then I thought it wasn't worth to make who knows what mess for that little sum. What disappointed me more was probably the fact that it was more than 30 euros, the cost of a session, which (unfortunately) has become the unit of measure of my life in everything I do, every money I spend.
For the rest, it's some 24 kms. As Vito correctly said, it took roughly 20 minutes, 2 euros per minute, nearly per km, still sounds too much to me. Specially considering what I can get for 1 euro per minute (actually less...)

From Voltastrae 4, 63128, Dietzenbach to Frankfurt-Flughafen, Frankfurt.

Fare Information.

Cost with Traffic.

None 46,50 .

Light 53,31 .

Heavy 83,07 .

Trip Information.

The trip is 22.6 km and will take 27 minutes.

Notes.

Night rate applies from 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM.

Tolls & surcharges may apply.

Currency in EUR.

Approximate Breakdown.

Initial Fare 2,80 .

Add. Metered Fare 45,66 .

Tip (10%) 4,85 .

Estimated Taxi Fare 53,31 .

*Additional charges may apply.

50 Euro sounds about right.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1658227]Was Alice there? She would have stood out. Maybe she left for the holidays.

[/QUOTE]Line up post for Dec. 17 from German board.

Vanessa RO,

RO Dana,

Nadin RO,

RO Bianca,

Andrea RO,

RO Mari, Alice RO, HU Monika, Christina RO, RO Roxana, Erika BU, Milena PL, RO Ramona, Jessy BU, Maja RO, RO Nina, Sissy, Oana RO.

Finished my bareback club tour by driving here after going to Fun Park in Viersen the night before. Arrived about 5 PM after having picked up a lamb chop dinner from the kebab place on the way there. Had to eat it in the locker room on the bench as there are no tables in the club. 19 girls present, half either fat or ugly or both, some thin but not very attractive brunettes, and a few reasonable looking ones. Not overly impressive but I was determined not to leave, like I did last time, as I wnated to fuck some more girls bareback and this was my only option. Took the 3-girl, 90 Euro option, as I figured I should be able to find at least 2 girls to fuck and the thiird would be at worst a 20 Euro BBBJCIM.

The most attractive girl facially and body wise had small saggy tits, which I hate, and seemed to be in a sour mood all the time so I passed on her. Apparently, everyone else did also because I never saw any man approach her or go to the room with her. The first girl I had was a thin Romanian with long brown hair (usually tied up in a pony tail, although she looked better with it loose). The usual chat followed by BJ on the couch, then to an upstaits room (my request so I could play my music program). She was surprised and pleased at the music (mostly Romanian songs) and surprised but not thrilled when I pounded her for the half-hour to the music. When we finished, she wagged her finger at me in mock reproach and wobbled down the stairs, with me supporting her, much to the amusement of the girls who saw us coming down the stairs.

There were two blondes that were reasonably attractive, one tall with very nice big tits, the other one with a nice face and failry good body, but I just couldn't get into them, the first because there was something about her face that turned me off and the second because she was too milfy for my taste. I was trying to decide between Roxana, a big-assed blond with a receding chin and a brunette with nice tits and OK face, and chose the blonde. Same routine as with the thin first girl, but Roxana apparently had less staying power, as she asked me to stop fucking her after about 20 minutes and moved on to making me come with a BJ ((unfortunately, unsuccessfully).

Was going to go with the brunette after a rest but she got called to reception for a discussion with the thekefrau and some other girls, then came down and had a heated discussion with some of the other girls on the couches. After a while, two uniformed guys came in and went upstairs. They looked like firemen so I thought that there was some safety issue upstairs. However, they came down with the brunette and another girl, both dressed, and led them away. I asked what had happened but got no explanation.

Since the brunette was gone and I couldn't get into the two blondes, I was sitting in the chair when Mari, a brunette with a reasonable face but pretty plump, and a devilish attitude started coming on to me from across the room. I finally went over to her and saw that she looked better from a distance. I would never have chosen her to fuck but I was tired and wanted to come so I told her that all I wanted was a BBBJCIM on the couch, to which she agreed. The BJ was good and she allowed a little mouth fucking with me holding her head, and accomplished the task in about 10 minutes.

Overall, it was OK but I had better looking girls at Romantika, Grimberg, and Freude 39.

Diet Coke,

Thanks for the taxi info, now my ass doesn't burn anymore, specially if I spent less than what the possible price could be, with or without meter.
I'm used to take taxis in poor cheap countries, pratically never in western ones, but still I find outrageous to pay 50 or more euros for a hardly 20 minutes ride.
I would like to move to Germany more than anything else on earth, now I have a clue about what job I must look for, LOL!

About the line up, after I failed in recognizing Arabella's Maya in F39 (but really was that the one?), I'm doubting about everything, LOL!
Anyway I'm sure there were 20 pics by the counter plus 1-2 girls without pics, one being the mentioned Meggy, not 18 as listed.
Since, in random order

1) I knew I'm not supposed to go back to that club;
2) I had little time out of the sessions;
3) nearly all couches were occupied;
4) I didn't like to wander around with all eyes on me;

most of all, the only useful light is in the restricted counter area, I couldn't go with a torch to girls or ask them to come to light for a better sight of them,
I just gave a quick look at the pics when I had to pay worrying about finding some 4-5 options from which choosing the 3 sessions.
Since Vanessa was instantly caught by the counter, I eventually informed, after a little inspecting walk, the other 2 chosen ones before hand, to try to be available at about "x hour" for me, otherwise I'd take another one. I remember NadinE (written with the E in her pic), outsider, 4th choice.
I would insist Alice wasn't there. If she really was there, and I read her name not selecting her, obviously she must have not looked that good to me, inspite of guys writing she's outstanding. Tastes can be different, but I don't remember reading her name.
Maybe a description or comparison with an AO girl of a NRW RTC could help me.

Reading what Jimmy wrote, I remember I noticed that girls have a sort of "scale" about timing and performances. They don't waste time in caresses or kisses and go straight to blowing, like pneumatic machines, nor let you wander around too much with your mouth or hands. No passion, no sweetness, no illusions, no GFE at all. After a few minutes of fucking, often changing position on their request (hoping to find the one that will make you finish earlier), they all want to try to blow you again. If you insist on fucking, they want to ride you (thinking that they will hit you faster and therefore lead you to the end). From this point of view, if you close your eyes you could probably be with any of them, since they looked a bit like programmed robots.

Nice to change place and faces, I'd probably rezimmer those 3 if met again (I surely would funny Ramona), if not else hoping to get better sessions, but NRW is much much better IMHO.

Decided to give this club a try yesterday Dec 22, especially in honor of Diet Coke. A cute young lady, no older than 23 with tiny boobs came to the door and started speaking German. She kept repeating something, but all I could remember was "karte gruppe" or something to that effect. Two things were obvious, she didn't want to let me in and she couldn't speak a word of English. I walked away disappointed back to the bahnhof on a cold windy afternoon and headed to familiar waters, Mainhattan. Can anyone help me figure out what happened?

[QUOTE=Kib123;1660143]Decided to give this club a try yesterday Dec 22, especially in honor of Diet Coke. A cute young lady, no older than 23 with tiny boobs came to the door and started speaking German. She kept repeating something, but all I could remember was "karte gruppe" or something to that effect. Two things were obvious, she didn't want to let me in and she couldn't speak a word of English. I walked away disappointed back to the bahnhof on a cold windy afternoon and headed to familiar waters, Mainhattan. Can anyone help me figure out what happened?[/QUOTE]Sorry, no idea what happened. I did post of Booms German board your post and asking for any info.

That is a couple of hours wasted.

Line up posted on German Lustscout board today's lineup.

"Carmen RO,

Jessy BU,

Nelly BG,

Erika BU,

Dana RO,

Melissa RO,

Andrea RO,

Christina RO,

Nina RO,

Anna RO,

Ina RO,

Mari RO,

Vanessa RO,

Nadin RO,

Ramona RO,

Roxana RO,

Anka RO,

Monika HU,

Nadin is young looking and has small tits but speaks good English.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1660198]Nadin is young looking and has small tits but speaks good English.[/QUOTE]Nadin is very cute & thin, but her front teeth WTF? Nightmare on Volta street!

It happens that the club is full and that you have to wait for a while outside until some guys leave. Maybe that's what happened.

HB.

Or you had the wrong looks. It is very common for these RTCs so not allow mid / sud European people to enter. Discrimination fully exists in some German clubs!

[QUOTE=Maxime;1660679]Or you had the wrong looks. It is very common for these RTCs so not allow mid / sud European people to enter. Discrimination fully exists in some German clubs![/QUOTE]Again? Please. I've seen many southern European or Turkish guys at FKK40.

HB.

Both in the ISG forum and Cafe Forum is the entrance to the club.

"southerners" or those that do not look like Central European, denied.

Was!

Not only in Dietzenbacher club, but recently the Arabella Club Wattenscheid and Bochum RTC Freude39!

But not only there you have to say in fairness. There are many nudist clubs in NRW, but also the Pauschalclub. De chain of which I know that there this door policy towards Southerners (whatever that might mean?) Is down! What is new is the question of "Haste ne Club card?" what is absolute nonsense because something does not exist! Probably goes faster with the rid of these men, we tend to think. If you call in the clubs and asks if this is true, the opposite is always maintained, as you probably tried to legally circumvent this door policy! By the way, the former grounds (about 1 year ago with the same subject) was that the girls did not want to southerners in the room because they badly of them "" ! Be treated. Was'and nonsense!

[QUOTE=Maxime;1660679]Or you had the wrong looks. It is very common for these RTCs so not allow mid / sud European people to enter. Discrimination fully exists in some German clubs![/QUOTE]That's BS racism and you think Germany would have learned its lesson after such a shameful history.

Until EU loses this backward / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url] view of races its economies wall always be a fraction of the USA and its pathetic unemployment rate multiples of USA.

That's why silicon valley produces billionaires with its Indians, Asians, Persian, Arabs, Turks while EU rots on its old families from 1800's.

To they teach Economics in these German gymnasia, college or universities? Or just how to make a machine in a factory for last 100 yrs!

This kind of matters has already been discussed. Each of us can have their opinion, but facts are facts: for some inexplicable reasons, some guys are left outside the clubs. I say "inexplicable" not ironically, but because (I can speak only for RTCs) I have seen blacks, asians, indians, turkish guys inside, I remember posting that more than once, and I have seen guys left out, at least once with the door even being slammed. I never understood why some customers are allowed in and some not. I'd say also your dresses may count, or if you have ugly sort of bags with you. Personally, I've been admitted in 5 different RTC clubs with trolley and / or backpack, but once I was with a guy who had an eyecatching "ugly" bag and TF came out personally to give us a better look, since the internal cameras don't give great views. Also going in group, even only 2 or 3 men, may be perceived as a problem too.

One girl in F39 told me that turkish guys are officially not allowed in because they are likely to give trouble. I don't know if also the other RTCs have "officially" this policy, I wouldn't think so.

Perhaps it can be called racism, but I think that owners have the right to choose who they want to let in. To a"lower" level, I'd say that also girls working there should have the right to choose with whom they must make sex.

BTW, I wouldn't like to enter too slippery topics, but I have seen terribly handicapped persons in wheelchair! Alone! Once nobody could understand how he managed to reach the club. Girls were jumping on any man around to look "engaged".

And I've seen elderly men with one foot and a half in the grave, which I would surely leave outside, after calling an ambulance. One girl recently told me that she is scared to go with those ones because she fears they might die in the room with her, not necessarily because of sex. It may sound funny, but I fully shared her concerns.

So, facts are facts, and must be accepted, specially if we can't fight them: guys who are or may look southern have to take into account that they may be refused entrance in some clubs. Those who don't read forums might have a justification in being surprised, not those who do read.

Clearly, I understand the frustration, disappointment, rage, I sincerely express my solidarity, but what can we do?

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1661384] but what can we do?[/QUOTE]We can't do nothing.

I have seen too black, asian, turkish and north african at RTC in NRW (Grimberg, Arabella, Venus).

In Grimberg I asked to Katy about their door policy an she told me that they have it but is not always applied, depends on if the customer is known, if it is alone or in a group. She said that untill 2 costumers come together no problem but if they are 3 or more is very easy that are not allowed in, regardless of their origin.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;1661352]That's BS racism and you think Germany would have learned its lesson after such a shameful history.

Until EU loses this backward / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url] view of races its economies wall always be a fraction of the USA and its pathetic unemployment rate multiples of USA.

That's why silicon valley produces billionaires with its Indians, Asians, Persian, Arabs, Turks while EU rots on its old families from 1800's.

To they teach Economics in these German gymnasia, college or universities? Or just how to make a machine in a factory for last 100 yrs![/QUOTE]Unemployment rate is about the same in the US and in Germany. Educational level is at least at par. Pointing fingers metioning Germany's history is throwing glasses while sitting in a glass house.

Have you ever been denied acces to a club or discoteque in the US? That happens. There is the "Hausrecht", the right of house. The owner can decide who to let in and who not. Doesn't mean he's allowed to discriminate, but if they don't tell you the reason, discrimination will be hard to prove. If Germany is such a racist unprogressiv country, why not stay in the US and go to brothels, FKK and AO clubs over there? Ah, I forgot, it's illegal in god's own country, the land of the free, the country still discriminating blacks and going through a period of mass demonstrations after various incidents with white cops killing blacks.

You don't know why he was denied entry. I don't know why he was denied entry. So why start wildcatting and insulting the country you go to for doing what the US won't allow? No reason for that. Happy mongering in Germany.

HB.

I have been to Dietzenbach several times and, yes, I have seen all races there-not just among the women but also among the men.

Clubs to have the "right to refuse entry", not just in Germany but probably everywhere in the world. True, it can't be based on race, but it can be based on behaviour.

Let's face it: German men rarely go to a club like this in a group of 4 or 5 talking loudly all the time. It is more common among "southerners". But it is the behaviour, not the race, which is the key. As I said, I've seen all races there. I'm sure if a group of 4 or 5 roisterous Germans came, then they would also be refused entry.

It works the other way as well. If you went to a Turkish cafe, where normally only Turks go, in Germany, you probably won't be made to feel comfortable. Of course, a cafe can't refuse entry except for more obvious reasons, but the idea is the same.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;1661352]That's BS racism and you think Germany would have learned its lesson after such a shameful history.

Until EU loses this backward / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url] view of races its economies wall always be a fraction of the USA and its pathetic unemployment rate multiples of USA.

[/QUOTE]KaveMan. The name fits.

I didn't anticipate that my denied entry would fire up such a storm. Obviously the suspicion of being denied an opportunity in life merely based on genetic background brings out justifiable emotions, more so if you happen to be on the wrong side of the gene pool. I will, however, keep my opinion to myself on this one.

By the way, this kind of a club is not my thing, but would have been nice to check it off my bucket list.

This episode did not ruin my time in Germany though, I have a load of stories from some rare episodes to post later.

Thanks everyone for insights and valuable comments.

Kib, that's the right attitude!!

If I were ever denied entry to a club in Germany I would just move on. So many other options out there, especially in NRW. The only ones who would suffer if I were denied entry would be the girls since I'm pretty sure I spend more in a club each day than the average customer.

+1. That's what I did when I was 48 and denied entry to a nightclub: Move on to the next nightclub.

HB.

Seeing that the post was made on Dec 23rd, is it possible the club was full? Christmas parties and the like. Also possible the club was filled to capacity since many guys are off for the holidays. What is the capacity of Dietzenbach anyway, how many lockers do they have? Can't imagine all that many since its a small club.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1661729]Seeing that the post was made on Dec 23rd, is it possible the club was full? Christmas parties and the like. Also possible the club was filled to capacity since many guys are off for the holidays. What is the capacity of Dietzenbach anyway, how many lockers do they have? Can't imagine all that many since its a small club.[/QUOTE]Dietzenbach has about 30-40 lockers. One time after I entered to the club, I was told no lockers were available. They let me wait inside the club until one opened up.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1661783]Dietzenbach has about 30-40 lockers. One time after I entered to the club, I was told no lockers were available. They let me wait inside the club until one opened up.[/QUOTE]40 lockers can fill up awfully fast and it being the holiday time they might not have had the room for guys waiting around inside for a locker to open up. Living Room is a small club and they must have well over 100 lockers. And since Kib123 doesn't know what was spoken to him, maybe we shouldn't assume he was turned away for his ethnic background. The race card hasn't been reported at this club before so I'm guessing it was standing room only in the club and they were turning people away.

I don't know if I would want to be in the Dietz with 39 other guys I don't think there is enough seats for that amount of mongers are guys sharing couches. One turn away is not an issue two now is a problem.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1658538]Line up post for Dec. 17 from German board.

Vanessa RO,

RO Dana,

Nadin RO,

RO Bianca,

Andrea RO,

RO Mari, Alice RO, HU Monika, Christina RO, RO Roxana, Erika BU, Milena PL, RO Ramona, Jessy BU, Maja RO, RO Nina, Sissy, Oana RO.[/QUOTE]Ehm, just to "rehabilitate" a bit myself and not to look too stupid, too blind or too untrustworthy, since sometimes it seems that I "fail" (which of course can happen to anyone, in good faith, in this case to DietCoke):

[URL]http://www.lustscout.tk/forum/showthread.php?tid=89669&page=19[/URL]

The last post of the above link is of 2014/12/16, 20:29.

That's the one Diet Coke mentioned. But I went there on the following day. I insist Alice wasn't there. I don't mean to make a point of it, but I too was starting doubting about myself, LOL!

Read in another thread that AO is illegal as of the first of the year? Is this true? That was the main appeal for FKK Dietzenbach so far as I can tell.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1663806]Read in another thread that AO is illegal as of the first of the year? Is this true? That was the main appeal for FKK Dietzenbach so far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]No, AO is not illegal yet and probably will never be in Germany. Current plans of the government is just to prohibit any AO advertisement since you can't really police such a law and strictly the state cannot rule the way adults have sex. Otherwise they could ban such things like sodomy (anal sex) which is high risk for HIV etc.

Thanks! Not that I disbelieve you. Not at all. But it would be interesting to read a more detailed article about this. Unfortunately my German language skills are not good enough to do effective searching of German news outlets. If you (or anyone) knows of links on this topic I'd be very appreciative for them, and I think others will as well.

[QUOTE=MattheRat;1663855]No, AO is not illegal yet and probably will never be in Germany. Current plans of the government is just to prohibit any AO advertisement since you can't really police such a law and strictly the state cannot rule the way adults have sex. Otherwise they could ban such things like sodomy (anal sex) which is high risk for HIV etc.[/QUOTE]

Right: The law says it can't be advertised.

Right: It is difficult to control.

Wrong: For this reason it can't be forbidden, and neither can any other sexual practice. Consider the fact that many sexual practices are forbidden in many parts of the world, in some places even between adult married consenting heterosexual couples. This is also difficult to control, but it is not forbidden. In Bavaria BBBJ is forbidden for sex workers.

In the UK, new laws forbid many types of pornography, including female ejaculation.

Bavaria and Saarland are banning BBFS and BBBJ (depends on the definition: is a BJ sex or not), it is illegal there. Doesn't apply to other German states and authorities know and admit that it will be impossible to control. That's why you get BBBJ and BBFS even in these two states.

[URL]http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/gesetz-gegen-prostitution-saarland-verbietet-kaeuflichen-sex-ohne-kondom_id_3643349.html[/URL]

HB.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1664292]Right: The law says it can't be advertised.

[/QUOTE]Has AO ever actually been advertised?

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1664300]Has AO ever actually been advertised?[/QUOTE]Yes. At Dietzenbach and other RTC.

HB.

Thanks for the clarifications. If I read the article correctly they seem to say they will be sending undercover agents to make sure girls are using condoms. Where can I apply for that job?!

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1664435] they will be sending undercover agents to make sure girls are using condoms.[/QUOTE]I think that's bullshit. In the room there are 2 consenting adults free to do whatever they want. That works everywhere on earth, advertised or not, declared or not. The club owner cannot enter or tape what we are doing in the room, so of course he cannot control nor prevent anything. In all clubs is written something in german meaning that girls are independent pros freely giving their services.

For instance, you aren't allowed to exchange personal contacts with a girl, but who among us hasn't done it?

Among the many things I can't and didn't post about, I fucked AO (in an AO club asking surcharges for it) declaring covered sessions. The girls gladly agreed, in the last time that it happened, I felt guilty and "tipped" (between quotation marks because it was a shameful little amount).

All of us anyway know that even in "normal" clubs you can fuck AO, even if the girl is not supposed to do it in those places.

So, what is the policeman going to do? Punish a prostitute willing, for her own reasons, to make unprotected sex when the club can do nothing to hinder her from doing that? The club, IMHO, may know and even agree, but surely cannot be held responsible for what happens in a room.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1664435]

If I read the article correctly they seem to say they will be sending undercover agents to make sure girls are using condoms. [/QUOTE]No, that is nonsense. Won't happen. Doesn't happen.

HB.

(well yeah guys. I get that. I thought it was funny. And the idea of applying for the job and all.).

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1664452]
In the room there are 2 consenting adults free to do whatever they want. That works everywhere on earth, advertised or not, declared or not.
[/QUOTE]No. There are many places on Earth where certain sexual practices are forbidden between consenting adults. Even between married, heterosexual consenting adults in some cases. Yes, direct observation is difficult. However, circumstantial evidence can be used to put people in jail, and has been, and is legal according to the law of the land.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1664452]
The club owner cannot enter or tape what we are doing in the room, so of course he cannot control nor prevent anything.
[/QUOTE]The goal (whether ill-advised or not is a separate question) is not so much to prevent AO but rather to prevent women from having the option "do AO or get no work as a prostitute at all", in other words to prevent employers (even in the cases where the women are formally self-employed) from saying "do AO or you can't work here". If it came to court, even without direct evidence, a claim that an employer required AO, backed up by witnesses, would hold water.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1664702]No. There are many places on Earth where certain sexual practices are forbidden between consenting adults. Even between married, heterosexual consenting adults in some cases. Yes, direct observation is difficult. However, circumstantial evidence can be used to put people in jail, and has been, and is legal according to the law of the land.[/QUOTE]Well, I meant from a practical point of view: when you see someone coming out of a room, how do you know if they just spoke, if she pissed in his mouth, if he made her eat his caviar, if he put his arms inside her holes, if they AOed, if they had orgasms, etc?

[QUOTE] The goal (whether ill-advised or not is a separate question) is not so much to prevent AO but rather to prevent women from having the option "do AO or get no work as a prostitute at all", in other words to prevent employers (even in the cases where the women are formally self-employed) from saying "do AO or you can't work here". If it came to court, even without direct evidence, a claim that an employer required AO, backed up by witnesses, would hold water.[/QUOTE]I hadn't considered this, but if a girl goes to ask for a job in an AO club, advertised and / or known as such, whatelse should she expect? And if she doesn't like that, she can go somewhere else.

For instance, in Verena (but not only there) I met a few girls who "landed" there not knowing about having to work AO. We could make plenty of considerations about this lack of knowledge on their side, anyway they lasted 1-4 days and left.

Can we please stop speculating on government policies and just get back to trip reports and girls, which is more important IMHO? Anyone seen Sarah there lately?

[QUOTE=Gino02;1667414]Can we please stop speculating on government policies and just get back to trip reports and girls, which is more important IMHO? Anyone seen Sarah there lately?[/QUOTE]What a wise comment and a suggestion to follow.

Please stop with the ridiculous Germany bashing especially commenting on past war. This relates to end of year posts after a 12/23 Klub entry denied. I only read this today.

In all FKK you have no people even connected to WWII: they would be 90 years old at least.

I consider this comment referring to Germany's past as a shame, especially written by this US guy maybe supporting shooting young black guys unarmed what occurred multiple time in recent weeks.

Racism against black, racism against Latino, against Chinese, against.

I stop here as the list of all racisms by rednecks are endless.

I am not German but I support Hesse Bub comment. I am visiting this FKK since 97, close to 20 years, and was there back to the time of the central swimming pool. With or even without water.

There were up and down in the quality of the line up, the rules have sometime be esoteric changing close to every week. LOL.

But with 3 or 4 times visits per year I can speak about close to 100 visits. And never, never I saw or heard any racist comment or racist entrance refuse. I have seen drunk guys refused, some were Caucasian as you say in the US, others were refused because lack of hygien and you could smell from a distance. But I see as right one time when they refused a group of noisy and aggressive Turkish guys. They argued but didn't come in and I would bet most FKK would have refused the same way?.

[QUOTE=EFrog;1667694]What a wise comment and a suggestion to follow.

Please stop with the ridiculous Germany bashing especially commenting on past war. This relates to end of year posts after a 12/23 Klub entry denied. I only read this today.

In all FKK you have no people even connected to WWII: they would be 90 years old at least.

I consider this comment referring to Germany's past as a shame, especially written by this US guy maybe supporting shooting young black guys unarmed what occurred multiple time in recent weeks.

Racism against black, racism against Latino, against Chinese, against.

I stop here as the list of all racisms by rednecks are endless.

I am not German but I support Hesse Bub comment. I am visiting this FKK since 97, close to 20 years, and was there back to the time of the central swimming pool. With or even without water.

There were up and down in the quality of the line up, the rules have sometime be esoteric changing close to every week. LOL.

But with 3 or 4 times visits per year I can speak about close to 100 visits. And never, never I saw or heard any racist comment or racist entrance refuse. I have seen drunk guys refused, some were Caucasian as you say in the US, others were refused because lack of hygien and you could smell from a distance. But I see as right one time when they refused a group of noisy and aggressive Turkish guys. They argued but didn't come in and I would bet most FKK would have refused the same way?.[/QUOTE]Probably better posted in General Info.

How about some reports about Dietzenbach? Any info on reports from German boards about STDs there?

[QUOTE=EFrog;1667694]What a wise comment and a suggestion to follow.

Please stop with the ridiculous Germany bashing especially commenting on past war. This relates to end of year posts after a 12/23 Klub entry denied. I only read this today.

In all FKK you have no people even connected to WWII: they would be 90 years old at least.

I consider this comment referring to Germany's past as a shame, especially written by this US guy maybe supporting shooting young black guys unarmed what occurred multiple time in recent weeks.

Racism against black, racism against Latino, against Chinese, against.

I stop here as the list of all racisms by rednecks are endless.

I am not German but I support Hesse Bub comment. I am visiting this FKK since 97, close to 20 years, and was there back to the time of the central swimming pool. With or even without water.

There were up and down in the quality of the line up, the rules have sometime be esoteric changing close to every week. LOL.

But with 3 or 4 times visits per year I can speak about close to 100 visits. And never, never I saw or heard any racist comment or racist entrance refuse. I have seen drunk guys refused, some were Caucasian as you say in the US, others were refused because lack of hygien and you could smell from a distance. But I see as right one time when they refused a group of noisy and aggressive Turkish guys. They argued but didn't come in and I would bet most FKK would have refused the same way?.[/QUOTE]No, I think that this comment should be here. I am of non Caucasian origin and it is very important to me to know the door policies of clubs.

[QUOTE=EFrog;1667694]I am not German but I support Hesse Bub comment.[/QUOTE]HB's post on 12/27/14 was an inappropriate political rant and should have been flagged and penalized as such.

[QUOTE=MrStyles;1667774]No, I think that this comment should be here. I am of non Caucasian origin and it is very important to me to know the door policies of clubs.[/QUOTE]The consensus here and elsewhere was the refused entry was probably not because of "non Caucasian" origin.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1667783]HB's post on 12/27/14 was an inappropriate political rant and should have been flagged and penalized as such.[/QUOTE]I think HB's response to Kaveman was correct.

Somehow, I missed all the excitement a couple weeks ago.

Every country has some shameful part in their history. To keep bringing it up every time a story of denied entry is pretty lame.

I feel very lucky to visit this country where "it" is legal, clean with very fair set prices. The no limit speed on the autobahn is gravy. After banging a bunch of hot chicks, then fly on the autobahn is priceless!

Of course during the 10+ yrs visiting I've run into a couple knuckle heads, but this can happen in any country you visit.

OK, enough of this crap, does anyone know if Alice has returned?

[QUOTE=TheCane;1667783]HB's post on 12/27/14 was an inappropriate political rant and should have been flagged and penalized as such.[/QUOTE]It was not. If you think it was you might have misread it. Go ahead and report it to the admin.

HB.

I don't want to prolong the discussion but think HB's response to an inflammatory post by Kaveman was appropriate, measured, considerate and moderate.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1667892]

OK, enough of this crap, does anyone know if Alice has returned?[/QUOTE]Posted today on lustscout:

Gestern (11.1.) waren you. A. Am Start:

Andrea RO.

Ina RO.

Alice RO.

Mari RO.

Maya RO.

Melissa RO.

Michaela RO.

Nadin RO.

Oana RO.

Ramona RO.

Roxana RO.

Vanessa RO.

Bianca hatte frei.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1668169]Posted today on lustscout:

Gestern (11.1.) waren you. A. Am Start:

Andrea RO.

Ina RO.

Alice RO.

Mari RO.

Maya RO.

Melissa RO.

Michaela RO.

Nadin RO.

Oana RO.

Ramona RO.

Roxana RO.

Vanessa RO.

Bianca hatte frei.[/QUOTE]Thanks DC.

I haven't signed on that site so no access to the new reports / Lu.

Hi all,

In March I will be in Frankfurt for a trip of 2 days. According to my schedule I will have a free day on my arrival, and a night probably after 22:00 or 23:00. So I will have chance to visit 2 places.

I am planing to pay a visit to Treff-188 and my second place will be Mainhattan or Dietzenbach. AO with working girls is not for me, but according to the older posts, public BJ and even public sex, and also CIM option are pluses for Dietzenbach.

With entrance + pay for each half hour Mainhattan has standard price policy with other FKK's I have been before. As EastGoing's post that I have quoted pricing is 30 for entrance and 90 for having 3 half hour sessions and as far as understand one hour session with a girl or a half hour session with two girl at the same time count as 2 of 3 sessions. First of all I wonder if am I right about this pricing policy.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1658030]Yesterday I found 20 pics by the counter, but 1-2 girls didn't have it. Nearly half of them was fuckable at first sight, but the bodies were less firm than they were looking. Entrance 30 + 1 x40,2 x70,3 x90. [/QUOTE]As a second item I wonder, generally it takes some time for me to be able to cum, as a result probably 1,5 hour of sex will not be enough for me to empty my balls as much as I want. So how will be the pricing for increasing the number of sessions that you can have. After you had 3 session, does it work as paying an additional 40 for 1, 70 for 2 or 90 for 3 more sessions.

Third thing is club facilities, as far as I read in the previous post I didn't see anything about a sauna or some other facilites that are common in most of the FKK's. Are there anything that can be used during resting between sessions?

Last thing that I would love to get information about Dietzenbach is anal sex. For the girls mentioned as anally available is it an extra which one needs to pay additionally to the girl, if so is there a standard rate for this or it changes from one girl to another.

Thank you in advance for your support.

I was just reading on the AO threads that the AO ban will take effect in June. I can't make it back to Germany till April at the earliest. Has anythings changed at Dietzenbach? I heard some of the clubs have discontinued advertising which girls are AO on the pictures at the front counter. I also read that the flat rate clubs are toast as well. So sad, so many great memories!

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1679112]I was just reading on the AO threads that the AO ban will take effect in June. I can't make it back to Germany till April at the earliest. Has anythings changed at Dietzenbach? I heard some of the clubs have discontinued advertising which girls are AO on the pictures at the front counter. I also read that the flat rate clubs are toast as well. So sad, so many great memories![/QUOTE]Yes, there are apparently some changes to the prostitution laws planned. I don't think that much will change, and since I am not into AO that won't affect me. Yes, sex without condom (presumably BJ as well) is to be forbidden. Frankly, I don't think that it will be enforced (undercover agents anyone? But will have the status of prostitution in places where prostitution is forbidden, that is, you're probably pretty safe if it is behind closed doors.

In practice, it will mean that AO can't be advertised, so it will be down to asking the girl after you're alone in the room whether she will do it. She will probably ask for extra money as well, and there is no way you can complain since the management can't officially support it. So, it will be like a HJ, or BJ, or vaginal sex at a massage parlour: it is not officially offered, but some girls will do it with some customers, perhaps for extra money.

I'm sure the various message boards will have information on who does AO, whether or not it costs extra etc.

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
In March I will be in Frankfurt for a trip of 2 days.
[/QUOTE]When exactly?

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
I am planing to pay a visit to Treff-188 and my second place will be Mainhattan or Dietzenbach. AO with working girls is not for me, but according to the older posts, public BJ and even public sex, and also CIM option are pluses for Dietzenbach.
[/QUOTE]Dietzenbach is also cheaper and friendlier than Mainhattan. Not the luxurious facilities, but do you really want to pay extra for them?

Also, instead of Treff-188 you might consider Maxi Swing might be a better choice than Treff-188. Try to get some recent reports on both and compare.

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
With entrance + pay for each half hour Mainhattan has standard price policy with other FKK's I have been before. As EastGoing's post that I have quoted pricing is 30 for entrance and 90 for having 3 half hour sessions and as far as understand one hour session with a girl or a half hour session with two girl at the same time count as 2 of 3 sessions. First of all I wonder if am I right about this pricing policy.
[/QUOTE]That sounds right for Dietzenbach, but Mainhattan is more expensive: probably 65 entry and at least 50 per half hour.

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
As a second item I wonder, generally it takes some time for me to be able to cum, as a result probably 1,5 hour of sex will not be enough for me to empty my balls as much as I want. So how will be the pricing for increasing the number of sessions that you can have. After you had 3 session, does it work as paying an additional 40 for 1, 70 for 2 or 90 for 3 more sessions.
[/QUOTE]No. The policy does change from time to time, but I think that further sessions are 40 each.

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
Third thing is club facilities, as far as I read in the previous post I didn't see anything about a sauna or some other facilites that are common in most of the FKK's. Are there anything that can be used during resting between sessions?
[/QUOTE]There is a small sauna and very basic food and drink. There used to be a pool, but that's been gone a while.

[QUOTE=VSail;1679079]
Last thing that I would love to get information about Dietzenbach is anal sex. For the girls mentioned as anally available is it an extra which one needs to pay additionally to the girl, if so is there a standard rate for this or it changes from one girl to another.
[/QUOTE]Some girls do it. As far as I can tell, there are no payments for extras. In other words, if you have a session with a girl for half an hour, that includes everything which she offers. At the bar there are photos and you can check out the names and what they offer. "Mache alles" is AO. IIRC, if they don't do anal it will say "außer anal"; if it doesn't, they will do it.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1679476]Dietzenbach is also cheaper and friendlier than Mainhattan. Not the luxurious facilities, but do you really want to pay extra for them?.[/QUOTE]LOL LOL LOL.

Dietzenbach is a shit hole. I would not fuck one of the Dietzenbach girls, none of these girls even it's for free. You'll find there in best case third or fourth rate girls. Anyone who tells you different is dreaming. Good and beautiful pay sex girls work for real money. And this they don't get in Dietzenbach.

And friendlier again only LOL LOL LOL.

Even Oase is ten times friendlier than Dietzenbach. So when you want fuck in best case fourth rate girls even more worse than pink sheets LoL without condem and very cheap than go to Dietzenbach. If you want good sex with nice and good looking girls than go to Mainhattan, Sharks or Oase.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1679511] If you want good sex with nice and good looking girls than go to Mainhattan, Sharks or Oase.[/QUOTE]Now it's my turn to LOLLOLOL. Clubs are different but to have this dickish attitude (while you presumably never go there) is laugh worthy, especially since some of the RTC girls move to normal clubs as well (recently in LR, Samya but also in Mainhattan and Sharks). Sure there are more pretty girls in the bigger clubs, who are also more likely to give crappy service. Compared to the RTC at least.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1679511]
Dietzenbach is a shit hole. I would not fuck one of the Dietzenbach girls, none of these girls even it's for free. [/QUOTE]SvenFKK's detailed info is very accurate. For sure Craiova should stay away. I have found a number of girls at Dietzenbach that were better looking than some at Mainhattan (esp. When they were lounging outside in the sun). I like Mainhattan also, but I especially like the service at FKK40.

Usually good LFK or DFK on couch and BBBJ there as a preview. I plan to visit next Spring, but probably will ask for condom for FS.

Cheers.

Rick.

Thank you for the replies, especially for the SevenFKK's detailly informing post.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1679511]LOL LOL LOL.

Dietzenbach is a shit hole. I would not fuck one of the Dietzenbach girls, none of these girls even it's for free. You'll find there in best case third or fourth rate girls. Anyone who tells you different is dreaming. Good and beautiful pay sex girls work for real money. And this they don't get in Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]First of all I accept that good and really beautiful paid sex with a beautiful girl needs real money. Having an overnight meeting with a top class escort which starts with a dinner date and go on with some walk in the city or some time in a club and end in the hotel room with a passionate sex which may go until you get your balls completely emptied. This is what I say beautiful paid sex which would cost at least 1000 EUR, and this is a money that I can not pay as often as I have paid sex. For all the remaining, the point is how much you have satisfied when it is compared with what you paid. If a stunner is the key for boosting your satisfaction then it is possible that choice of place would be different that one who is service oriented. It is a matter of choice but it doesn't sound good to call as a shit hole for a place that seems having many fans and people posting good reports.

I think I have to say that service quality and feeling comfortable with the girl is my first priority. I can say that I would prefer a MILF (not a chubby one) who has DFK, GFE and DATY as a part of her standard service instead of a to a stunner who will say "NO" for many things or will tell me that it is an extra. For my opinion it is awful to try to give a decision about an extra service while you are in the room with the girl. With the other additional like standard couch action prior to going room, public sex option, anal and CIM without an extra, as a club serving a different experience than other big FKK's, Dietzenbach becomes a good alternative to Mainhattan, Sharks or Oase.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1679476]When exactly?[/QUOTE]My schedule is not fixed yet but it seems that I will be arriving to Frankfurt on Sunday 29th of March, I was planing to go to Treff 188 on Sunday afternoon and have a FKK visit on Monday night. But due to my schedule it seems that I won't be free until 22:00 on Monday so visiting Dietzenbach on Monday does not seem a feasible option. So I need to make a choice between Treff-188 and Dietzenbach for Sunday afternoon. At that point as far as I read from the forum in the related threads I think Dietzenbach will be a better choice by means of both quality of girls and quality of service. As it is open until 4 am, Mainhattan is still an option for Monday night.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1679476]Also, instead of Treff-188 you might consider Maxi Swing might be a better choice than Treff-188.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the recommendation but both for the schedule oriented reason I mentioned above and for the reason that I have chance to experience similar concept in my Brussels visits in Club Cocoon, hopefully choice between Treff-188 and Maxi Swing can become an item for the next time.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1679476]There is a small sauna and very basic food and drink.[/QUOTE]As far as read in previous post it is possible to leave the club and come back again. So if I need a good meal during my stay I think it would be possible to find some where around the club. In their web page it is mentioned as soft drinks, so since coffee and water would be available others would be good additives for me.

Hi Gentlemen,

My experience was more than satisfying.

Positives:

NO time pressure.

Hot girls.

Lots of variety.

Negatives.

Rude reception.

No food.

Ordinary ambience.

For getting laid it is a good place to go.

[QUOTE=Cope123;1680469]
For getting laid it is a good place to go.[/QUOTE]That's what I say about Germany in general.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1680487]That's what I say about Germany in general.[/QUOTE]When it is compared with many other places even in Europe I completely agree with that comment.

But in the other hand when it is compared with the other places around Frankfurt, according to the reports I have read Dieatzenbach seems as a good place for getting laid. At least with the services offered seems to have a special place among many other FKK's so I think it definitely worth to pay a visit.

I've managed to sample a good cross-section of what Germany has to offer over the past several years. First of all, even the worst-quality FKK in Germany is light years better than anything we have in the USA Anywhere that consenting adults can do anything in exchange for cash is paradise. I happen to like Dietzenbach because it's close to where my work takes me, the price is reasonable, the girls are reasonable, and, I have the option of going AO if I want to do it. Before I had read about Dietzenbach, I used to drive out to the now-defunct Dolce Vita Raubach for the same reasons. I've also been to Sharks on several occasions. If I want a supermodel with bolt-ONS in an elegant setting, I go to Sharks. If I want a modest facility with girls who are real and will do AO and perhaps even enjoy sex, I will go to Dietzenbach.

Hi again dear friends,

As I read older posts and tried to get additional information about Dietzenbach from German forum "lustscout" with the support of chrome I had decided that it definitely worth to pay a visit to that club.

On a visit to Cologne last year I had decided to visit FKK Bernd's-Schieferhof due to legendary service levels of the girls, but because of my business schedule this had been a visit that I didn't have a chance to achive. As far as understand from what I have read since a week, Dietzenbach must have a rating not lower than FKK Bernd's, but with a lower cost and may be more choices of girls. So as a service oriented monger Dietzenbach is place that I have to not miss.

At that point since the web site of the club is not up to date, I need to confirm the working hours of the club for Sunday and Moday's. As far as I see in their web page closing time is 12:00 for these days. If so with a tight business schedule only day that seems available for a visit to Dietzenbach is Sunday afternoon. But if it open until 4 am like Manhattan then Monday also becomes an option. Since it is a small club I don't have much hope about that late closing time but it will be wonderful especially for a second visit if everything goes well on the first one.

Second item is a request for recommendation from mongers who had threesome experiences in that club. What is your favorite duo team? According to your experiences which girls get on well with each other during a threesome, or the girls one must stay away for such an activity.

By the way It seems that most probably I will be there on 29th of March with an approximate arrival between 16:00 -17:00. I would love to meet and have new friends there, since I am planing to have a period of 6-7 hours in the club which don't have much facilities, there would be a some time for chating.

While they both have service beyond the norm, I wouldn't consider Bernds and Dietzenbach as swappable options.

The Bernds distinction is a lack of upselling and a very consistent level of high service. The place just doesn't tolerate girls who aren't a solid GFE or PSE or both. And you will definitely get your full 1/2 hour or hour or whatever time period you ask for. There is some AO going on, but it's never quite clear who is offering it, and whether they just offer it to some or all customers.

The Dietzenbach distinction is that AO is available from almost all the girls, and it's quite clear who is who. Or at least it has been until the recent scare about the law change. I'm not sure of the current status there in terms of what is written on the girl photos. That's where you could find out, at least at one time. Having said that, there's nothing like the near-guarantee of overall superior service like at Bernds. You will get your typical mix of good performers and girls who just don't care and can't be bothered. You also may not get as much time as you would like. Many of these gals are ready to jump up and leave once you pop. The Bernds girls will not only linger, they'll see if they can get another round out of you if you have time left on the meter.

Another difference is the ethnicities, ages, and levels of physical beauty on display. Dietzenbach is your typical almost exclusively Romanian club, where Bernds has a more varied collection including actual German women. (Imagine that!) The Dietzenbach girls skew more young, while Bernds has both young and MILF types. Keep in mind that there's a reason Bernds keeps their MILFs around. They have a lot on offer. Finally were it not for the age difference Bernds would be said to have the better looking women. BUT for those who prefer a young average girl to an older once above average girl Dietzenbach may have the edge.

So they are really different kinds of places. If AO is your primary prerequisite then Dietzenbach is probably the place to start. If you are more interested in longer, solid and consistent GFE / PSE sessions, and not risking bad sessions then Bernds is probably the place to start.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1681358]Bernds and Dietzenbach are different in terms of service[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply, in fact as I mentioned in my post I haven't been in both of the clubs, and also I am not very experienced in the filed of FKK. So my comment about Bernds and Dietzenbach was based on only the reports that I have read so far and yes as far as I read about both of the clubs, for Bernds it seems more close to a 100% guarantee for a good service.

For my point of view, with the service level average of the girls in theses clubs which is above than many other big FKK's, with an almost standard public action (at least a BBBJ as a start up), as a small club with not much facilities, as they are generally visited by locals these two clubs are similar. But yes as you mentioned in a more detailed view they have some differences in some main topics.

And again thank you for your recommendation about two clubs, according to your comment, Berns seems fiting better to my expectations but due to my schedule Bernds can not be an option for this time. As far as I remember Bernds is closed on Sunday's which if my only free day on that business trip.

Major difference from Dietz & Bernds is the price. I believe 60 e entry to Bernds compared to 30 e. 30-40 e BBFS 30 min for Dietz compared to 100 e for 30 min at Bernds. CIM included in both clubs.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1679112]I was just reading on the AO threads that the AO ban will take effect in June. I can't make it back to Germany till April at the earliest. Has anythings changed at Dietzenbach? I heard some of the clubs have discontinued advertising which girls are AO on the pictures at the front counter. I also read that the flat rate clubs are toast as well. So sad, so many great memories![/QUOTE]Nothing has changed except for the new photos of the girls. Majority of babes offer AO. The same old covered crew is still there.

The photos of the girls at both Dietz & 39 do not mention AO. FT, anal & etc. The girls at 39 who are condom only will mention it as soon as you sit next to them.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1682270]Major difference from Dietz & Bernds is the price. I believe 60 e entry to Bernds compared to 30 e. 30-40 e BBFS 30 min for Dietz compared to 100 e for 30 min at Bernds. CIM included in both clubs.[/QUOTE]Bernds is 50 E per 30 min. If you are offered and accept the BBFS option then there is an extra 50 E charge. Other acts that might incur an up-charge at other places, like CIM, are already included in the 50 E initial price.

At Dietzenbach it's the same price BBFS or not.

Entry at Bernds is 70 until 22:00, and then it drops to 50. However, be aware that they close at midnight, or 1:00 on Friday night, and there is no entry after 23:00. They are closed on Sat and Sun.

Dietzenbach now is 40€ entry and 30€ per session, you pay the girl cash, no more cards, you can extend sessions and you can book the same girl multiple times.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1682486]Dietzenbach now is 40 entry and 30 per session, you pay the girl cash, no more cards, you can extend sessions and you can book the same girl multiple times.

HB.[/QUOTE]Are there any change in the services both by means of content and quality?

If the only difference is in pricing, I mean 30 EUR for per session of 30 minutes with no extra for AO, CIM or anal then there is not much difference for our side except a 10 EUR increase in total cost in case of 3 session with 3 different girls. But for a case with longer sessions or more than 3 session then new pricing policy seems better.

AFAIK no differences in service levels. Extras are still included.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1682581]AFAIK no differences in service levels. Extras are still included.

HB.[/QUOTE]Was there yesterday. No difference in service levels but the pictures of the girls and their services are no longer on display either and so you'll have to ask. The girls said they prefer the new pricing model but they had no idea why it changed.

Someone have an idea of how many girls doing anal sex in dietz? Is it possible to understand who through the pictures in the reception desk?

Thanks

[URL]http://www.fkk-63128dietzenbach.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1682713]Was there yesterday. No difference in service levels but the pictures of the girls and their services are no longer on display either and so you'll have to ask. The girls said they prefer the new pricing model but they had no idea why it changed.[/QUOTE]How many girls doing anal?

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1682713]Was there yesterday. No difference in service levels but the pictures of the girls and their services are no longer on display.[/QUOTE]Right at the bottom of the home page pictures of 4 girls available still.

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1682713]Was there yesterday. No difference in service levels but the pictures of the girls and their services are no longer on display either and so you'll have to ask. The girls said they prefer the new pricing model but they had no idea why it changed.[/QUOTE]It is good news to hear that the service level is same despite the change in pricing model. I hope until I have a chance to visit that place at the end of March it remains same. Since the services are not being informed on display there is a risk of tendency to ask for extra for additional services like anal, CIM and etc. At least this is a risk for the first timers that don't know girl by girl the content of services. I hope I don't need to make bargain about that subject. Since I am not an AO fan, what makes Deitzenbach preferable for me is couch action and all inclusive pricing model.

In the other hand since there is no more prepaid sessions which was not allowing to have longer or more than one session with the same girl as your prepaid ones, there may be a competition among the girls. So that may help keeping the service level high as it was and may be that may cause some violations about no approach policy of the girls. Since it doesn't become an aggressive way I would be OK with that.

So we will see the effect of that chance in pricing model in the forthcoming days. As Daerk Vader informed since the girls are happy with that, I hope visitors and also the club management would be happy too.

By the way I think due to the important news as "change in pricing model in Dietzenbach" my request for recommendations about girl combinations for a threesome has not been noticed. So I decided to remind this. I would love to have recommendations for good combinations.

And as it is not mentioned anymore in the club, a list of girls with their services may be very useful for the guys like me, I mean the ones who haven't been in Deitzenbach before.

Thanks in advance for the information you shared.

[QUOTE=SolidState;1683305]Right at the bottom of the home page pictures of 4 girls available still.[/QUOTE]Those pictures on website are ancient!

Cheers.

Rick.

[QUOTE=SolidState;1683305]Right at the bottom of the home page pictures of 4 girls available still.[/QUOTE]I think those pictures are a bit out of date. I believe one of those girls was actually from Prussia.

[QUOTE=SolidState;1683305]Right at the bottom of the home page pictures of 4 girls available still.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about the real pictures of the girls in the glass frame on the reception desk inside the club. They've gone!

[QUOTE=Mistiriox;1682945]How many girls doing anal?

Is it possible to understand who through the pictures in the reception desk?
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DarkVader]The pictures of the girls and their services are no longer on display either and so you'll have to ask.[/QUOTE]In the day's when they used to list their services there used to be only 1 or 2 girls (out of say 12 on duty) who did anal and so my guess is that the ratio wouldn't have changed much.

[QUOTE=VSail;1683518]Since the services are not being informed on display there is a risk of tendency to ask for extra for additional services like anal, CIM and etc.

I hope I don't need to make bargain about that subject.

[/QUOTE]Highly unlikely! It's a well managed club and I would think that there is neglible risk of that kind of nonsense and if any girl should try it then just let the theke know. You'll only pay more if you take multiple girls.

[QUOTE]Since I am not an AO fan, what makes Deitzenbach preferable for me is couch action and all inclusive pricing model.[/QUOTE][B]Ina[/B] (a frizzy haired Romanian) large tits but a little plump and [B]Tina[/B] (petite Indonesian. Currently on hols) are the only two girls who don't do AO and both do CIM (no swallow). All the girls do BBBJ and I would guess that most would do CIM as well although I haven't sampled them all to check ;-)

It is nice to hear that the management is reliable about keeping their service standards.

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1683856][B]Ina[/B] (a frizzy haired Romanian) large tits but a little plump and [B]Tina[/B] (petite Indonesian. Currently on hols) are the only two girls who don't do AO and both do CIM (no swallow). [/QUOTE]I have read good things for both Ina and Tina, especially as far as I remember they are two of SevenFKK's three favorites. In the other hand, as I said, I am not an AO fan but that does not mean I will limit my choises with these two girls. Probably I will be willing to try my chance with other girl for coverd action.

[QUOTE=SolidState;1683305]Right at the bottom of the home page pictures of 4 girls available still.[/QUOTE]These pictures have been there for years, if not decades. I don't think any of the girls are still there.

[QUOTE=VSail;1684385]I

I have read good things for both Ina and Tina, especially as far as I remember they are two of SevenFKK's three favorites. [/QUOTE]Indeed. I think Dark Vader and some others will agree.

Another good one is Milena. Really skinny with very skinny saggy tits but probably the best provider there. She often wears stockings but will take them off if you ask.

She is probably the only girl there who does rimming. Everything else is great as well.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1684617]Another good one is Milena.[/QUOTE]Thanks for info SevenFKK, I have read your previous comments about Milena. Stocking is a good turn on for me so if they will be there on the day I visit Dietzenbach Tina and Milena will be on my list. Since Ina is reported as a little plump, I am not sure at the moment but your good reports will probably help me to make my mind in a positive way.

Ina is great for first time English only speakers she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose. Make a 30 e investment on a BBBJ CIM first and she will help you out with info on the girls you can also just talk to her she speaks good English.

[QUOTE=VSail;1684734]Since Ina is reported as a little plump, I am not sure at the moment but your good reports will probably help me to make my mind in a positive way.[/QUOTE]She might be plump compared to the other girls at Dietzenbach, but objectively I wouldn't classify her as plump at all. A woman could have quite a bit more weight before she would be too plump in my view. Different strokes for different folks. .

She is really nice and provides good service. She also does deep throat.

Can you tell me is it possible to girl take facial?

Girls who are AO gives you to finish on their pussy and ass?

Is there a lot public action? (I like it) So from Ona sofa to another is it visible and enough light?

Girls are also tested as other places? (I am not going to fuck bareback just asking for BBBJ).

How many girls there fucking with condom?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1686287]Can you tell me is it possible to girl take facial?

Girls who are AO gives you to finish on their pussy and ass?

Is there a lot public action? (I like it) So from Ona sofa to another is it visible and enough light?

How many girls there fucking with condom?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Not sure about facial, but since most will allow CIM, facial should be fine. I would ask first.

Some public action here & there, but unless your are sitting on the next couch, the crappy lighting makes it very difficult to see the intimate details.

You can either cum in pussy or on their body.

Condom only Milena, Ina, Tina & Andrea (only ones I know).

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1686470]Not sure about facial, but since most will allow CIM, facial should be fine. I would ask first.
[/QUOTE]Definitely ask. Some don't like it, not so much because they think it's gross, but because if they get sperma in their hair it's a hassle.

Dropped by once last week and once this week during lunch for an appetizer.

I limit myself to MILFS that know what they are doing and are a sure bet. For me that is Tina, Milena and Ina. They all give great BBBJ and Milena is a rimming expert.

The last two trips were lunchtime stopovers with Tina, since Milena and Ina were unavailable. However, I am tiring of the same three experts.

I would like to expand my Dietzenbach BBBJ Horizons if there are any recommendations out there. No need to waste my 30 Euros on below average service.

Have fun.

A colleague of mine was recently in Frankfurt on a trip and on my suggestion he visited FKK Dietzenbach on 13 Feb 15. He picked a girl and based on his description it may have been Nadine (I played with her in December). In any event after some kissing on the couch they went to a room and when he inquired about AO Sex she replied to him "Alles Ohnes Verbotten" Hmmmm. I know the law has been passed banning AO sex in Germany but I thought it was not supposed to take effect till Jan 2016. I was planning on a quick trip in April, but if its now banned or clubs are jumping the gun it may not be worth my trip from California.

Hi friends,

There is more than a month to my visit to Frankfurt but as I have very limited free time I was trying schedule my free times both by means of mongering and regular activities as a guy who is fond of good meal.

For the mongering side as I mentioned previously Dietzenbach will be my first destination on Sunday (approximately from 16:00 to closing time) and since for a while the services of girls are not been informed with photos of the girls, I prepared a list of girls, which is including their English level, services and some identifiers about their appearances, according to the previous reports up yo one year. It is a list with lack of many information but I thought it may be still useful for some other guys like me who are newbie in Dietzenbach. Also contribution on that list from mongers who has wise experience in Dietzenbach, will be highly appreciated and I think it will make it much more useful. So you can find the girls line-up in the attached file. (Since I couldn't attach the file in excel format I attached as PDF).

I think it would be much better to ask this in Frankfurt thread but since I have mentioned the topic above I will be happy for recommendations for good restaurants, bars, places for good music and places for sight seeing as destinations for my regular activities. I have 1 breakfast, one dinner and two lunches that have not been scheduled yet.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks for your chart VSail. As an addition, Tina has very good English skills.

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1686989]Thanks for your chart VSail. As an addition, Tina has very good English skills.[/QUOTE]Saw her last April. Service good, but IMO face not very appealing to me.

Cheers.

Rick.

[QUOTE=PacificRim;1686989]Thanks for your chart VSail. As an addition, Tina has very good English skills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1687023]Saw her last April. Service good, but IMO face not very appealing to me.

Cheers.

Rick.[/QUOTE]I also thank you for the chart. Concerning Tina, I have seen her at the FKK and was intrigued by the fact that she was Asian. But, I have consistently heard that she has never been an AO girl.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1687081]I also thank you for the chart. Concerning Tina, I have seen her at the FKK and was intrigued by the fact that she was Asian. But, I have consistently heard that she has never been an AO girl.[/QUOTE]You're right Max. When I talked to her she said that because she has a family she doesn't want to take a chance with her health.

And DietCoke I understand your point about her face not being beautiful. OTOH, I think she has a pleasant, girl next door face (if you live in Bali) and she's very personable.

So this is an odd question in that they are so far apart it doesn't seem like a choice. But I'll be driving anyway so.

Is anyone in a position to say which is better these days, Dietzenback versus FKK Freude-39? Especially for AO and GFE attitude?

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1687141]So this is an odd question in that they are so far apart it doesn't seem like a choice. But I'll be driving anyway so.

Is anyone in a position to say which is better these days, Dietzenback versus FKK Freude-39? Especially for AO and GFE attitude?[/QUOTE]Of course it is personal, but I find the looks and GFE attitude of the girls in Freude better then in Dietzenbach. But if you behave like a normal person, you can have a good time in both clubs of course. In Freude you have real lunch and dinner included nowadays.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1687261]Of course it is personal, but I find the looks and GFE attitude of the girls in Freude better then in Dietzenbach. But if you behave like a normal person, you can have a good time in both clubs of course. In Freude you have real lunch and dinner included nowadays.[/QUOTE]That was my soft impression, but I've only been to Dietzenbach once so I wasn't confident in that. Freude is easier for me to get to too!

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1686700]
I limit myself to MILFS that know what they are doing and are a sure bet. For me that is Tina, Milena and Ina. They all give great BBBJ and Milena is a rimming expert.
[/QUOTE]Also my three favourites. I'm sure Dark Vader thinks highly of them as well.

It was mentioned here recently that only these three and Andrea are not AO. I had Andrea once, since I wanted to try out anal. The session was OK, but nothing special.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the three favourites mentioned above are all not AO. They are probably more in it because they actually enjoy it. They have all been there for a while. Those who do AO are probably after quick money and probably less into it for the enjoyment.

As far as I understand according to many past reports on Dietzenbach, CIM for finishing the session and couch action including DFK (or at least LFK) and BBBJ is almost a standard for all girls. Also I haven't read any report informing a girl refusing DATY. So if there is no other comment object to this, on the chart these items may be "Yes" as default.

Tina, Ina, Milena and Andrea are the ones who are mentioned as "not an AO girl", if there is no other girl in that group, I will identify rest of the girls as AO. Since I have not read any report mentioning an opposite case, and if there is no objection, I will also make "cream pie" as yes for all AO girls.

These are some of my acceptances for updating the chart, so I would be happy for being informed if there are any exception for these items.

Since GFE depends on both the girl and guy, it may be removed from the list of services.

In the other hand some other services like FIV, deep throat, anal and English level don't fit any acceptance so I would be grateful for information about these subjects (especially English level and anal).

Also as far as I remember I read a report where a girl refused covered sex, so if this was not an exception which is limited with that case, and there are some girls don't use condom even it is requested by the guest then this may be a useful information for the non AO guys. But in the other hand with the new law about AO sex, I am not sure such an information may cause a problem for these girls. But all these information is based on past experiences of early times when there was not such a law, isn't it?

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1687453]I don't think it's a coincidence that the three favourites mentioned above are all not AO. They are probably more in it because they actually enjoy it. They have all been there for a while. Those who do AO are probably after quick money and probably less into it for the enjoyment.[/QUOTE]I've not been with the mentioned ladies, nor I remember them visually speaking, maybe I didn't even meet them, since I think Milena may not be the girl I thought she was.

Generally speaking, all no-AOgirls in AO clubs, for instance F39, have a huge handicap vs their colleagues to fill. I reckon much more likely that, since these 3 are not AO, if their beauty is not superior, as seems not to be from rough descriptions, they must compensate with performance and service. So I'd say that that's the reason, not the passion or enjoyment.

Silvia (black no AOgirl) from Arabella, now in F39, is by far superior to the other girls, still her service is good, and she makes more rooms than many other (AO) girls. Lost Emy was giving bad service, still making rooms due to her well-above-average aspect. These examples are in comparison with the AO girls working in Arabella and F39, who are not much different from those of Dietzenbach.

Come on guys, I followed a recent discussion in another thread, I think Lounge and chat area, I'm younger and (I immodestly reckon) still reasonably fuckable, I'm aware sometimes I get illusions, sometimes I believe, I want to believe, I'm led to believe... but the girls are professionals, probably all of them with "professional boyfriends", they are there for the money, not for the enjoyment. Out of pretending, what passion can they put with customers whose average age is 60+?

If girls regularly offered salad tossing and schluken then I would probably be happy to settle for these two things instead and forego BBFS as it still carries that ultimate risk no matter what anyone says.

Unfortunately in the past even when there were cards at the bar with several girls advertising that they did 'specialite schluken' they tend to avoid it. Instead spitting discretely into a tissue or even a bucket.

They seem to prefer to accept sperm into their pussies rather than their bellies even though it is riskier. I suppose it's a question of taste.

For me though, there is little better than lying back, leisurely swigging on a beer whilst a girl thoroughly tosses your salad then gives you a mind blowing BJ before swallowing every last drop.

Your little tadpoles are left wriggling away in her stomach along with those from other guys all mixed in with whatever she happened to have had for lunch.

Much better than humping away getting exhausted and sweaty. Why not let her do all the work?

Is there a list of girls at the different RTC clubs who regularly provide this service?

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1687930]Out of pretending, what passion can they put with customers whose average age is 60+?[/QUOTE]Well, there is a little bit of good news in this regard. I'm not saying that all the girls go crazy for old men, but it's not as bad as you might assume. Women, much more than men, will discount looks and age if the guy has something going for him. Sense of humor helps. But what helps more is a sense that the guy is an accomplished alpha male with confidence and resources. It's not even necessarily that they think they are going to snag a rich guy or his resources. They sort of can't help being attracted by high ranking the same way that guys can't help being attracted by looks almost to the exclusion of anything else.

SO old guys. Walk tall with quiet confidence (don't be a jerk) as if you own the place!

Are there any black ladies currently in Dietzenbach.

If so, then next question is are they in the large side or thin, with not too big ass and firm breasts at least not floppy for the breast.

[QUOTE=VSail;1689823]Are there any black ladies currently in Dietzenbach.

If so, then next question is are they in the large side or thin, with not too big ass and firm breasts at least not floppy for the breast.[/QUOTE]No. Well, not yet.

Landed early and got through customs faster than expected, so decided to check this club out. Not s seasoned FKK veteran, and have only been to Palace once and Mainhattan twice on my last trip to Frankfurt.

Much smaller and less glitzy than the other clubs, but a very relaxed vibe. Got showered and settled in. It was about noon when I got there entry was 40 e and 30 min sessions are 30 e as reported. I'd say maybe 15 girls total. Summer hot, some middling, and some not so much.

Decided to break the ice with Maya; tall brunette ro with large natural breasts and a little on the chunky side. BBBJ in lounge and then covered FS in a room. She offered AO, but I declined. Lots of DFK and was very enthusiastic.

Chilled for a bit then went with Anka; another brunette ro but more petite with a very nice ass. Same as before, started in lounge then moved to room for business, but sec was openly offered in lounge for those that want it.

Called it quits after 2 sessions as I plan to go to Sharks tonight.

Total damage 100 e.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1690279]Day1 Dietzenbach [/QUOTE]Hi,

There FormulaOneFan, I hope you had good time in Dietzenbach, as far as I understand from your report you had.

Can you give information about English levels of these girls, of course if you used English for communication. I am asking this to be able to update my Dietzenbach lin up chart. If you check older posts you can see the chart as a PDF attachment.

[QUOTE=VSail;1690616]Can you give information about English levels of these girls, of course if you used English for communication. I am asking this to be able to update my Dietzenbach lin up chart. If you check older posts you can see the chart as a PDF attachment.[/QUOTE]These girls can speak a bit. Some a bit more.

Alice.

Andrea.

Anka.

Oana.

Dana.

Mari.

Gina.

Given the grim AO-ban reports from the RTC clubs I'm considering the almost time-equivalent (from where I am) drive to Dietzenbach. But would like more confirmation that AO has been relatively unaffected there and truly is currently hard to find at the RTCs.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1690818]These girls can speak a bit. Some a bit more.

Alice.

Andrea.

Anka.

Oana.

Dana.

Mari.

Gina.[/QUOTE]I can't name all names (names are tough for me to remember) but I'd say 1/2 or so had a decent grasp of English, but it wasn't a huge burden overall. Maya didn't have as good of a grasp as Anka, but we were able to communicate just fine.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1690848]Given the grim AO-ban reports from the RTC clubs I'm considering the almost time-equivalent (from where I am) drive to Dietzenbach. But would like more confirmation that AO has been relatively unaffected there and truly is currently hard to find at the RTCs.[/QUOTE]I didn't survey all the girls, but the ones I did speak with AO was on the table. They do ask if you want covered or not though. Both girls I went with offered it, and I saw at least 3-4 other girls do it in the lounge area no less, so it seems still on the table.

It does make me curious what a 3-way would be like at a place that doesn't require condoms. Even if you choose one, how picky are the girls when you switch? That was the only turnoff for me at Mainhattan when I did a 3 way. The transition is clunky and not 'porn' like. But still a good experience.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1690848]Given the grim AO-ban reports from the RTC clubs I'm considering the almost time-equivalent (from where I am) drive to Dietzenbach. But would like more confirmation that AO has been relatively unaffected there and truly is currently hard to find at the RTCs.[/QUOTE]I was at FKK Dietzenbach yesterday, AO is still fully normal like before. Same in public with any girl like before.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1690848] But would like more confirmation that AO has been relatively unaffected there and truly is currently hard to find at the RTCs.[/QUOTE]Nothing changed re AO in the clubs. Changes are: Girls being payed directly. Just paying entrance and each session separately. No more AO advertising. Photos on the recpetion desk have gone.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1691025]Nothing changed re AO in the clubs. Changes are: Girls being payed directly. Just paying entrance and each session separately. No more AO advertising. Photos on the recpetion desk have gone.

HB.[/QUOTE]Well on Thursday on a usually reliable German board it was noted F39 now has a sign posted saying that BBFS is verboten and that it appeared as if girls were currently respecting that during actual sessions. Thus recent first hand reports would be welcome whatever the news.

Maybe I caused confusion: My post was referring to Dietzenbach only.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1691160]Maybe I caused confusion: My post was referring to Dietzenbach only.

HB.[/QUOTE]Oh, my post was actually awkwardly worded. What I meant was I had heard the RTC clubs had an AO ban, and that Dietzenback did not, BUT I'd like more confirmation of both before giving up on the RTCs and going to Dietzenback.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1691168]Oh, my post was actually awkwardly worded. What I meant was I had heard the RTC clubs had an AO ban, and that Dietzenback did not, BUT I'd like more confirmation of both before giving up on the RTCs and going to Dietzenback.[/QUOTE]I was at Villa Venus on Friday, there was no AO ban there. Paid 60 EUR for entrance and first session. TF takes the card out of the key after the first session. Then 30 EUR per session after that. Money goes to the TF, girl still receives a token.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1691296]I was at Villa Venus on Friday, there was no AO ban there. Paid 60 EUR for entrance and first session. TF takes the card out of the key after the first session. Then 30 EUR per session after that. Money goes to the TF, girl still receives a token.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Sportsman!

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1691159]Well on Thursday on a usually reliable German board it was noted F39 now has a sign posted saying that BBFS is verboten and that it appeared as if girls were currently respecting that during actual sessions. Thus recent first hand reports would be welcome whatever the news.[/QUOTE]I just read on one of the German boards that the ban on AO (BBFS) was not respected between four eyes in the room at F39 - at least with some girls. The difference may be in the future that you can not know beforehand which girls provide AO and not.

IMHO I do not think that the bans and the proposed laws will work in practice. I live in Sweden and it is no difficulty for me to get paid sex and half of the time it has been BBFS although the girl officially (even on boards) were militant condom-user.

[QUOTE=VSail;1690616]Hi,

There FormulaOneFan, I hope you had good time in Dietzenbach, as far as I understand from your report you had.

Can you give information about English levels of these girls, of course if you used English for communication. I am asking this to be able to update my Dietzenbach lin up chart. If you check older posts you can see the chart as a PDF attachment.[/QUOTE]Sure thing. From my Thursday visit.

Maya. Decent English, offered AO.

Anka. Good English (she gave me the 'tour' offered AO.

Came back on Saturday for a quick visit as well as I was leaving the south end of FRA region and headed up towards Bad Homburg to go to Oase. Girl lineup was similar to Thursday (it was early afternoon). I decided to go with Andrea. Tall RO brunette with glasses and one pierced nipple. She has decent English kills, engaged is some good LFK, started with a BJ on the couch in the lounge before moving to a room. She didn't offer AO, but was open to multiple positions. Didn't try anal, but she mentioned it was available.

Was going to session again but decided to save my stamina for a night at Oase later.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1694072]Maya. Decent English, offered AO.

Anka. Good English (she gave me the 'tour' offered AO.

... I decided to go with Andrea. Tall RO brunette with glasses and one pierced nipple. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

There are lots of good reports especially mentioning the service quality which is included many additional that are generally extras in larger clubs.

There are reports dramatically varying about looks of the girls but as a service oriented guy it is a place that is in my "have to go" list.

But since Dietzenbach is a smaller club and less touristic when it is compared with larger ones like Oase, Sharks, Palace, Mainhattan, etc. I have some concerns about possible language barrier but it seems there would be more than enough girls who can speak English.

Usually, when I have rung to ask about the lineup a day or two in the future, I was told to ring back after opening. This doesn't let me plan in advance and means that I can't be there right when they open, unless I want to drive there first and ask (by mobile phone or in person) about the day's lineup only after having arrived. I'm sure they plan at least a few days in advance but might not want to reveal too much on the phone for fear that someone will come for a specific girl and be disappointed if she is not there, which can happen if something comes up.

Of course, I'm interested in my favourites Milena, Tina and Ina. Does anyone know if any of these have regular days when they are usually there, or when they are not there?

I'm looking at a visit between a week before and a week after Easter, probably 29 or 30 March.

Anyone know if any of my girls will be away for the holidays?

It would be nice if anyone who meets my girls can ask them when they will be there and post the information here (or PM me).

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1696371]Usually, when I have rung to ask about the lineup a day or two in the future, I was told to ring back after opening. This doesn't let me plan in advance and means that I can't be there right when they open, unless I want to drive there first and ask (by mobile phone or in person) about the day's lineup only after having arrived. I'm sure they plan at least a few days in advance but might not want to reveal too much on the phone for fear that someone will come for a specific girl and be disappointed if she is not there, which can happen if something comes up.

Of course, I'm interested in my favourites Milena, Tina and Ina. Does anyone know if any of these have regular days when they are usually there, or when they are not there?

I'm looking at a visit between a week before and a week after Easter, probably 29 or 30 March.

Anyone know if any of my girls will be away for the holidays?

It would be nice if anyone who meets my girls can ask them when they will be there and post the information here (or PM me).[/QUOTE]I don't think they publish a schedule. It is basically hit and miss. Last week Tina and Milena were there, but I did not see Ina. I guess it's just best to call them.

Ina does tekefrau duty one day a week now. Last time it was on a Sunday. Don't know that is her regular day to play tekefrau or not.

I was planning to travel to Frankfurt tomorrow and I saw this post last year saying that FKK Dietz was closed for Easter Sunday and Monday?

Will it be closed again this year?

Would be good to know as soon as possible as I plan to catch a flight tomorrow.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1557225]You should have checked the local German boards. The club is closed today because it is Easter Sunday. And tomorrow, Easter Monday. They also talked about some renovation on these days.

HB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1702580]I was planning to travel to Frankfurt tomorrow and I saw this post last year saying that FKK Dietz was closed for Easter Sunday and Monday?

Will it be closed again this year?

Would be good to know as soon as possible as I plan to catch a flight tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Not sure, I am planning on going April 10 and April 11. But with Orthodox Easter I am not sure what the line up will be like. I am mostly looking for AO action (really the only reason to visit this club). Hopefully there will be something!

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1702580]I was planning to travel to Frankfurt tomorrow and I saw this post last year saying that FKK Dietz was closed for Easter Sunday and Monday?

Will it be closed again this year?

Would be good to know as soon as possible as I plan to catch a flight tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I too want to know and have posted on lustscout and booms forums asking if closed on this Sunday, but no reply. I knew last year's closing was at least in part due to remodel.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1696749]Ina does tekefrau duty one day a week now. Last time it was on a Sunday. Don't know that is her regular day to play tekefrau or not.[/QUOTE]From talking with her on the phone, I understand that it is (now) vice versa: only one day a week in her old job. (She is not Thekenfrau every day, though.).

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1702776]I too want to know and have posted on lustscout and booms forums asking if closed on this Sunday, but no reply. I knew last year's closing was at least in part due to remodel.[/QUOTE]Well I thought it would be open and it was. Hope to report later.

Rick.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1702776]I too want to know and have posted on lustscout and booms forums asking if closed on this Sunday, but no reply. I knew last year's closing was at least in part due to remodel.[/QUOTE]Last year Easter was late in the year in the UK, from 18 - 21 April, but coincided with the orthodox church's Easter that year of Sunday 20 and Monday 21. These were Romanian / Bulgarian public holidays.

That's probably why Dietzenbach chose to close on those days last year, and use the time to do some renovations. Most of the girls who work there are Eastern European and would have wanted to take those days off for sure.

This year Easter is early in the UK but late in Romania / Bulgaria - 12 to 13 April. The number of girls working on those days could be so sparse that RTCs might have to arrange gangbangs to ensure there are enough girls to go round.

Arrived via S bahn around 11:15 and 12 minute walk to FKK40. Paid 40 and showered. Sat for awhile and then joined a slender girl on another couch. Sat down and asked her name. Nadin, then realized it was her and I had visited her several times last year. She also recognized me. Then caressing and DFK on couch and some blowing there before going to room. Nice time there hugging, DFK, etc. Some DATY and then her turn for oral. After being up for over 24 hours I finished while receiving oral. More hugging and relaxing in room and then to counter where her name was written on my key card and then 30 to Nadin. While waiting to recover we were entertained by a younger guy who laid towels on the floor and began an extended BBFS on girl in a wide variety on positions and then to room. About a hour after leaving Nadin I approached slender girl with small soft tits. Ramona said she was 28 from Romania. No English. Some German. Only LFK on couch and blow. To zimmer and laid down by her and kissed and played and sucked her soft breasts and stroking her pussy. Hard to understand her and her my bit of Deutsch. Later blow and finally asked for gummi and she applied and got on. Rode for awhile and then turned her over for mission. She reached under and lightly touched my balls. I came there and we shortly left room. Her name written on card and paid 30. I was planning to try another time but while waiting to recover I was falling asleep so decided to leave. A bit after 3 and arrived at bahnhof while train was there and 5 minutes later train left. BTW I had talked with Nadin about Easter and she said she was going home for Orthodoz Easter. I did not ask when she was going or when returning.

Unfortunately I am not sure of the names of all of the girls so only have descriptions for some.

Would welcome any guesses as to the missing names if anyone recognizes them from the descriptions.

[U]Nadin[/U]

Slender body and long, lean legs with especially shapely calves. Long light brown curly hair styled around her face and down her back. She wore little pink, frilly, socks like a ballerina which accentuated her slender legs and sometimes a thin head band to tie her hair back ala wonder woman style. She had an attractive, cute face with nice light green / grey eyes. She stood out from the other girls there who were typically darker in complexion, short and plump. But she chain smoked and had badly stained, completely wonky teeth. Apart from the teeth she would have been great.

She looked shy at first but is not really. She was happy to instigate a show in public including fucking on a couch or even on the floor in plain view of everyone.

[U]Tall blonde (Alice ?)[/U]

A tall blonde with a face a little bit like the Russian ex tennis player Anna Kournikova. So definitely attractive. However she seemed cold and aloof with an almost permanently sour expression on her face and upturned nose. If you looked at her to show you were interested she never really encouraged you but just looked away unsmiling. On one occasion a guy came and sat beside her on the couch because there was probably no other space elsewhere. She was busy applying make up to her face and carried on doing so completely ignoring the guy rather than trying to acknowledge him. Also after each time that she was taken to a room she would routinely sit with her legs apart on the couch carefully and mechanically applying gel to her pussy.

[U]Andrea[/U]

She had the body type similar to that of a slightly butch netball player. Not fat but not slender either. She wore these severe glasses which made her face a bit like some kind of super clinical secretary. She looked matter-of-fact and controlled in her manner and did not try to entice guys by giving them come on looks like some of the other girls. I noticed she had a heavily pierced pussy. It would certainly be a different experience to have the feel of that metal against your bare cock but she doesn't do AO.

[U]Anka[/U]

Very good English and was keen to talk when she learnt I spoke English. Slightly chubby with a round, unattractive face. I found her pushy. She was always trying to attract my attention and attempting to talk to me even though it was obvious that I wasn't interested. She even tried to bully me into hurrying up and choosing a girl because I had not chosen one after an hour. Even telling me at one point that I should leave if I wasn't here to have sex. She was friendly at first but then got a bit tetchy when after engaging me in conversation a few times realized that I wasn't going with her.

[U]Bianca[/U]

Was taken to the rooms frequently. She was very slim and above average height compared to the other girls. She had slightly sagging boobs. Her face was pretty although a little hard bitten and prematurely aged due to her being a heavy smoker. Looked like she has a small span of attention and could be impatient in the room as has been reported. However she seemed to spend a long time relaxing and talking on the couch with what appeared to be regulars before going to the room. I don't know if she was AO but judging how popular she was I am guessing so.

I would have chosen her but unfortunately when I was ready to go with her she was always busy and vice versa when she was free. I am surprised that she does not get more mention on this forum compared to other girls as she was the most popular girl there in terms of room visits.

[U]Ramona[/U]

Someone by that name introduced themselves to me but I can't really remember what she looked like. A 4-5 on the Richter scale with instantly forgettable looks. Probably had bad teeth as EastGoing reported but there must have been a glitch in the Google translate engine used when she was described by him as 'pretty'.

[U]Roxana[/U]

Blonde and above average height but slightly pear shaped with wide hips, round bottom and a bit of a lower belly. Nice enough in manner and she would make the effort to try and entice you to go with her. At one stage I saw her kneeling on a couch in the bar area near the entrance with her ass sticking up in the air looking round with a sexy smile on her face as if to say that anyone who walks past would be welcome to slip it in right there and then if they wanted to. I was almost tempted.

She had a fairly cheeky looking sexy face but would have been more attractive if she was slimmer.

[U]Simona[/U]

Young, zero English, eager to please, A little bit of puppy fat in terms of her body type with a cute enough little girl face although not conventionally pretty. She would give you that little doe eyed puppy dog look when she was trying to get you to go with her to the room.

[U]Vanessa (?)[/U]

I saw that she had an exotic tattoo to the left hand side of her stomach so I am assuming it was her. I would say that she had a full, shapely but compact body rather than her being slim. She looks a little short but was easily above average in looks. She also seemed to be confident in manner and a bit of a tease. I had said to Anka that I was interested in anal and Anka must have gossiped about it because shortly afterwards when Vanessa (was walking to a room with a customer she looked back at me sitting on the couch and said "I really love anal" before wiggling her arse sexily and carrying on walking to the room.

[U]Other girls there[/U]

Girl with shoulder length dark hair and a boob job. She wore pink high heels along with black leggings / stockings which came all the way up to the very top of her thighs. From the sides her augmented full breasts looked great teamed up with her curvy ass and slim legs to give an almost perfect hour glass figure. However from the front view you could see the big breasts bunched together a little unnaturally which is a clear giveaway that it was a boob job. She was average height with a pretty face. I thought this might be Tina because she had slightly, dark, perhaps Indonesian looks but she was definitely young, in her twenties whereas I understand that Tina is much older. It may not have been Milena either because even though she wore stockings she was not extremely skinny. When I asked her name she said something like Isabella but I didn't catch it clearly as she was walking quickly past me at the time and didn't stop to talk. Maybe she is new?

Another girl who wore long black leggings / stockings to the top of her thighs but not as attractive in face as the girl mentioned above with the boob job. Maybe this was Milena.

A tall girl, with dark brown shoulder length hair, big in frame (although not necessarily fat) and a longish nose.

A thin girl with sunken cheekbones and bags under her eyes. Short hair.

A petite, slim, short girl with short brown hair.

A fairly voluptuous girl who wore pink, sheer stockings with lacy bands at the top. Her face was not particular attractive.

Perhaps a couple more who were forgettable.

So around 16 - 18 girls that I saw during the two days that I was there with around 12 -14 girls on each day and around 8 - 10 girls available at any one time.

Arrived via S bahn 2 again around 1 PM. 11 cars of lot and almost every couch filled. Eventually went with Laura 27 RO, some kissing of couch and blow. To room caressing, blowing, short mission, and more blowing. Some FIV but she really did not continue to strike my fancy so quit, but she offered a massage. That was okay. Some English but really no German. An hour late joined Anne, cute young girl, said she was 19. Nice see tits and a bit puffy. Some kissing on couch but no blow. To room, caressing and tit sucking then blow and went AO because sometimes while waiting for gummi I began to wilt. So started some time with her on top and then turned her to mission and after a bit with her reaching under to my balls I had a good finish. A long time later I sat with Nadin again. Kissing and blow on couch and to room. Caressing on bed and sucking cute tits and then long blow and started a mission for some time with her legs drawn up. Eventually wilted, more blow and then her on top, and then doggy for awhile. Said she was still 22. Before I left I remembered to ask her about going home for Orthodox Easter. She said 9 nines days but I was unclear what she really meant. Time to leave and walked back to S bahn around 5:30.130 total. As always little food. Number of guys did thin out some after I got there. At least 10+ girls there.

Sounds like Diet Coke had good visits, I am planning on going next Friday / Sat, but with Orthodox easter I am concerned there will be no girls at all at this club, since it is 99% Romanian. I am sure they will all start leaving this Wednesday or Thursday. So we will see. I wonder if the club will even open this weekend coming up?

Thanks for the info Myrrh.

Yep, sounds like Alice in her typical mood. She's really a sweet girl & gives fantastic service. Just roll your eyes when she ignores you. If you just gawk at her tits & smile she might just sit there smoking her cig. If you actually sit next to her & ask to go to the room she's most likely to say yes.

Do not remember noticing any fake racks at Dietz. Maybe a new girl or could have been Gina. Dark skin & a kind of cute face. Others will not like her look. Gina has an incredible god given pair of natural the's on a slim but curvy bod that would look fake. Nice & firm but natural. Almost too good to be true. Could also be the voluptuous babe you mentioned.

I was texting with one of the Dietzenbach girls today. Some of the girls are leaving for vacation starting this Thursday. The club will open this Friday and Saturday. The girls are waiting for the owner's decision about opening on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1704070]I was texting with one of the Dietzenbach girls today. Some of the girls are leaving for vacation starting this Thursday. The club will open this Friday and Saturday. The girls are waiting for the owner's decision about opening on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Nice to have some good information. If closed next Sunday I wonder if info will be on their website.

Rick.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1704070]I was texting with one of the Dietzenbach girls today. Some of the girls are leaving for vacation starting this Thursday. The club will open this Friday and Saturday. The girls are waiting for the owner's decision about opening on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Did she give any idea how many girls may be working Friday and Saturday?

Arrived around 2, 12 cars in lot but not crowded on couches. Seemed to be a few less girls, but maybe at least 10, could be wrong. After sitting and watching. I finally decided to give Tina a try. Sat with her on couch and soon starting kissing and then to very good blow. Not as vigorous as some and more sensual, less hands although no BLS.

To room with some cuddling and then good blow, eventually asked for gummi and started at the mission and later turned to doggie for a finish. More cuddling and then we left.

She said she was 34 and as most know from Indonesia and goes home for a month, each year. While some girls may go home for Orthodox Easter she thought it would be open.

After more then an hour needed to try again. I would like to go with Anne again but she did not seen to be into it enough. Decided on Ramona again. Probably the shortest there today, with hair usually in a bun or knot in back.

Started kissing right away and then nice blow on couch. She is very slender with soft small breasts. To room and laid together hugging, caressing, kissing etc. Then blow with some FIV and then AO to the mission. Finally wilted a bit and more blow.

Then she got on reverse CW and then forward CW. This went for awhile but she was so vigorous it was it bit uncomfortable. I am usually reluctant to give much direction, but I prefer more slow and sensual. Did not finish but had a good time.

Had some food, wiener and bread, watched awhile and left for S bahn as I had some shopping to do since stores were finally opened again after Easter and Eater Monday.
One additon, on couch closest stairs down to room a guy was getting a blow, FO, I think, and then the girl got on facing him and looked to finish in 3-4 minutes and then she yelled for another girls to toss some paper towels. Always curious why paper towels are used not tissue papers, which are softer.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1703765]AWhile waiting to recover we were entertained by a younger guy who laid towels on the floor and began an extended BBFS on girl in a wide variety on positions and then to room. [/QUOTE]Got a PM from this guy. Hope he does a report. I wish I was younger and had his stamina.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1704396]One additon, on couch closest stairs down to room a guy was getting a blow, FO, I think, and then the girl got on facing him and looked to finish in 3-4 minutes and then she yelled for another girls to toss some paper towels. Always curious why paper towels are used not tissue papers, which are softer.[/QUOTE]The most immediate concern of the girls once a guy has come without a condom is to prevent the furnishings from becoming soiled.

The owner will blame them not the punter so the girls will grab whatever is around and paper towels are cheaper than tissues. Who cares if the punter suffers paper cuts?

First. Thank you, everyone, for such great information and for such a great resource. It allowed me to do some planning from afar and to give a trip to Dietzenbach a try, and I'm glad to have a chance to give a little something back.

I had a three hour layover in Frankfurt and decided to indulge myself a little. I took a cab out to Dietzenbach, and it only took about 15-20 minutes. Very easy. I also arranged with my driver to come back in about an hour, since I only had a short amount of time. He was totally cool with that, and I rewarded him for doing so.

I should say, though, that because of the short amount of time I had, I don't think I had the best experience there. I didn't really have a chance to really enjoy just. Hanging out. So from that perspective, I'm not sure it was worth it. It might have been better, if I was just looking to pop one, to go right into Frankfurt and take one of the options there. So I think a place like this is much more cool for. I don't know, hanging out for a while. I bet it would be fun.

I am glad I had the experience though.

The people who were there were super, super helpful. Especially when I lost something important and went back to see if I could retrieve it. They helped me find it, including one of the girls. And that was super-awesome. So awesome, in fact, I'll be thanking them properly in the next few days with a letter and some shekels.

The experience was not GFE, but it was fun. I don't remember my hostess' name. Skinny thing, she said she was 21, dark hair, a pierced belly button. AO was on the menu, which was surprising and kind-of cool. We started up outside and went into one of the rooms for private fun. Again, I wish I had a little more time, or been a little more bold. She was inviting me to get it on right there in the main room and I didn't really get that, so maybe I should have RTFM a little more carefully. I would have happily done so. .

Though saying that, I should say that I realized that I'm not really very. Um. Big.

Anyhow, I would happily go back if I have a little more time to kill, but honestly, I don't think it's worth going there if you're on a short layover. Next time I pass through Frankfurt, I'll definitely consider it if I have a chance.

Again, thanks to everyone on the forums for their great, great advice across the continents.

Cheers!

The AO service really attract me, and I plan to give a try. However, I am worried about the healthy safety. Any spot testing for HIV or other diseases in FKK Dietzenbach?

How many girls are available now?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1704070]I was texting with one of the Dietzenbach girls today. Some of the girls are leaving for vacation starting this Thursday. The club will open this Friday and Saturday. The girls are waiting for the owner's decision about opening on Sunday.[/QUOTE]

Customers are not asked to submit to a blood test or any other examination before entry.

You just pay and go in.

[QUOTE=YFreeStyle;1706412]The AO service really attract me, and I plan to give a try. However, I am worried about the healthy safety. Any spot testing for HIV or other diseases in FKK Dietzenbach?[/QUOTE]

Guess he was asking if the girls get tested for HIV. Actually there is a doctor coming to the club every 4 (weeks to check the girls.

HB.

Thanks, that is exactly what I am asking!

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1706616]Guess he was asking if the girls get tested for HIV. Actually there is a doctor coming to the club every 4 (weeks to check the girls.

HB.[/QUOTE]

Was there and many girls had bandaids on them, said doctor had been there to test. Allen gut, will report with better connection.

This was at Acapulco Gold / Haus Panthera not Dietzenback.

Entschuldigung.

You mean your last report?

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1708779]This was at Acapulco Gold / Haus Panthera not Dietzenback.

Entschuldigung[/QUOTE]

Hey,

I have 7 h in Frankfurt to be for next weekend tell me what do you think what is fastest and cheapest way to come to this place?

What do you think will be price for taxi?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1710470]Hey,

I have 7 h in Frankfurt to be for next weekend tell me what do you think what is fastest and cheapest way to come to this place?

What do you think will be price for taxi?

Thank you[/QUOTE]Cheapest and fastest may not be the same. For taxi check Frankfurt taxi fare finder.

[URL]http://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=Frankfurt-Germany&from=Frankfurt(Main)Hbf%2c+Frankfurt%2c+Germany&to=Voltastrae+4%2c+63128+Dietzenbach%2c+Germany&fromCoord=50.107145,8.663788999999952[/URL]

From HBF main train station fare finder suggest 48 euro and 30 minutes to FKK 40.

Using S bahn from HBF 32 minutes to last stop and 8 minute walk. One way around 6 euro.

If you want a taxi back should have club call for one. I have never seen taxis waiting at Dietzenbach bahnhof.

Sorry mate!! You need to RTFF.

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1710470]Hey,

I have 7 h in Frankfurt to be for next weekend tell me what do you think what is fastest and cheapest way to come to this place?

What do you think will be price for taxi?

Thank you[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1710581]Cheapest and fastest may not be the same. For taxi check Frankfurt taxi fare finder.

[URL]http://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=Frankfurt-Germany&from=Frankfurt(Main)Hbf%2c+Frankfurt%2c+Germany&to=Voltastrae+4%2c+63128+Dietzenbach%2c+Germany&fromCoord=50.107145,8.663788999999952[/URL].

From HBF main train station fare finder suggest 48 euro and 30 minutes to FKK 40.

Using S bahn from HBF 32 minutes to last stop and 8 minute walk. One way around 6 euro.

If you want a taxi back should have club call for one. I have never seen taxis waiting at Dietzenbach bahnhof.[/QUOTE]I will be in Airport not at train station, but I see on this link price is same, from airport to this place what is cheapest and fastest route?

Or Treff 188? What is closer, cheaper and fastest please recommend me.

Thank you!

Last summer I had a longish layover (7 or 8 hours) at FRA and decided to hit Dietzenbach.

Tried the Uber app while in the airport hall but it couldn't find any car in the area.

So I hopped on one of the cabs in front of the airport.

I think the ride to FKK40 was in the 20 to 30 minutes range and it cost 45 euro.

When I was done at the club I asked the thekefrau to call a taxi for me. I think it came within 10/15 minutes and it was approximately the same price (maybe a couple of euros cheaper).

All smooth and easy.

I'd probably go to Sharks or Mainhattan if I had 7-8 HR layover vs Dietzenbach.

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1710627]I will be in Airport not at train station, but I see on this link price is same, from airport to this place what is cheapest and fastest route?

Or Treff 188? What is closer, cheaper and fastest please recommend me.

Thank you![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1711621]I'd probably go to Sharks or Mainhattan if I had 7-8 HR layover vs Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]Once again, it depends upon what you want. You can have BBFS at Dietzenbach. You can have unlimited sex at 188. You can have covered sex with model-quality women at Sharks or Mainhattan. I've been to every place except Mainhattan. For my Euro, Sharks has the best women and certainly the nicest facility. But, recognize that you realistically are going to eat up an hour travel time each way to / from Darmstadt. If you cut it too close, one hiccup on the A-5 or a long security line At departures and you're hosed. I could be wrong, but, of all the choices we've discussed, I think 188 is the closest to FRA.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1713745]But, recognize that you realistically are going to eat up an hour travel time each way to / from Darmstadt. If you cut it too close, one hiccup on the A-5 or a long security line At departures and you're hosed. I could be wrong, but, of all the choices we've discussed, I think 188 is the closest to FRA.[/QUOTE]Yes, but we are talking about maybe 10 minutes to get there from the airport and 15 to Dietzenbach.

A bit late in getting this posted, but anyway with the AO ban rapidly approaching I wanted to get in one last hurrah, and this is really the only time I could squeeze in a trip. I arrived in Frankfurt late on Thursday April 9th after the long overnight flight from San Francisco. I was thinking of hitting the club right away but I was so tired I just decided to get some food and crash for the night.

I woke up late morning on the 10th, got some food, took care of some male grooming, took my little yellow pill and I was off. Lost some time as my train terminated in Offenbach and I had to wait 30 minutes for the next one. Finally got to the club around 12:35 or so and parking lot seemed full. Was greeted by a fully nude lady (don't remember who she was) paid my 40 euro entry and changed and got comfortable.

Spent some time looking at the different girls and deciding who I was going to play with first. There is not much to do at this club during down times at all, so it was a balance of not burning up all my sessions to fast. I tend to like younger petite types and Anna caught my eye.

When I was ready I sat beside her and put my arm around her and introduced myself. After some LFK we got a little more in depth to DFK on the couch. She proceeded to start the standard BBBJ and got down on the floor, kneeling in front of me continuing the BBBJ. Almost a perfect BBBJ from this cute little 19 yo. After a while I signaled for her to get up on the couch, she thought I wanted to fuck then, but I said "pussy licken". I got down on my knees spread her legs open to reveal what was the most perfect cute teen pussy I have seen in a LONG time. As I was licking her pussy she really started to moan and pull my hair really getting into it. I was so rock hard I could not wait much longer so we began (and ended) in mish right there on the couch. Ended with a HUGE creampie right there on the couch. PERFECT!

Took a shower and a nap, like a said not much to do here, not much to eat either. In fact really all they had was some fruit and some sausages and mayo. Now why would you serve sausages with a creamy white condiment in a FKK club?? I stuck with the fruit.

I have always had a thing for blondes and a cute blonde by the name of Alice. She was sitting on the couch by the stairs next to the front desk. I sat down and introduced myself and asked her name. She said "Alice, don't you remember me. Last time you were here we fuck right over there. " How on earth do these girls remember our names some 6 months later. Really? With the volume they get, she remembered my name and that I am from San Francisco? Ok well. After all that I did remember her her and how great her pussy was. She gave me an incredible BBBJ on the couch and proceeded to ride me cowgirl till creampie completion. Great session #2 complete.

I took a nap for some time, and watched one super thin Romanian cutie (later turned out to be Bianca) fuck a dude on a couch. This is great advertising. After watching her fuck I just had to have her too, unfortunately that would have to wait till tomorrow. I rested some more and watching other people fuck I couldn't take it anymore or wait so I sessioned with Ramona, for some reason we did not really click, we fucked on the couch in CG, MISH and DOGGIE, after about 20 minutes it was apparent that it was not going to happen so I ended. No creampie.

I waited almost another two hours for Bianca, but she never came back down from her last session. I was still horny and had some enger left to burn, I session with Vanessa. Good BBBJ and mish to complete on the couch.

By now it was going on 6 pm I was still tired and jet lagged so I called it quits.

I went back the next day, almost 24 hours later. I won't go into a lot of details about day two. I did play again with Anna, this time CG to creampie, and Alice in the room, did some DATY with her this time and she seemed to enjoy it, she also has a nice small pussy.

I waited about three hours and finally got to Bianca before some other punter. I could see him heading for her but I cut him off. She seemed to get picked up within 5 minutes every time of becoming free. When I walked up to her she giggled and said "You want to fuck me baby" HELL YEA! We went to one of the back couches on the main floor, incredible BBBJ followed by cowgirl and doggie. What an incredible ride she gave in doggie, and incredible tight pussy. Ended with a huge creampie. In talking to her after we were done she said that the other girls talk about you. They said the guy from San Francisco fucks like rabbit. Don't know what that means.

So in two days 7 fucks and 6 creampies. Not bad. I really hope someway AO sex stays. If reports come in that they are still strong in September I may try one more trip.

By no means is this a fancy club with lots to do but it serves the purpose. Some outright hideous girls, some cute girl next door types (most common here) no Oase supermodels though.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1714590] Lost some time as my train terminated in Offenbach and I had to wait 30 minutes for the next one. [/QUOTE]Looking at Bahn.de website is seems they have a direct train from Frankfurt huaptbanhof to Dietzenbach Banhoef by S2. Maybe you took another line?

At the club they still have a showcase with girl's pics? After I tried all RTC in NRW, I'll try Dietzenbach next July.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1713745]Once again, it depends upon what you want. You can have BBFS at Dietzenbach. You can have unlimited sex at 188. You can have covered sex with model-quality women at Sharks or Mainhattan. I've been to every place except Mainhattan. For my Euro, Sharks has the best women and certainly the nicest facility. But, recognize that you realistically are going to eat up an hour travel time each way to / from Darmstadt. If you cut it too close, one hiccup on the A-5 or a long security line At departures and you're hosed. I could be wrong, but, of all the choices we've discussed, I think 188 is the closest to FRA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1714523]Yes, but we are talking about maybe 10 minutes to get there from the airport and 15 to Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]I was comparing travel time for Sharks, which, of course, is the furthest away from FRA of the three. Regardless, as big as FRA is, I would make sure I followed the best practices of getting there at least two hours before my connecting flight.

I've actually thought about doing this as recently as February. But, by the time I got through thinking about jet lag, what to do about my carry-on bags, etc, I decided it was too tough. I was headed to Vienna, so it wasn't as if lots of adult fun wasn't waiting for me at my destination.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1714734]I was headed to Vienna, so it wasn't as if lots of adult fun wasn't waiting for me at my destination.[/QUOTE]Vienna? What are the places to go there?

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1714710]Looking at Bahn.de website is seems they have a direct train from Frankfurt huaptbanhof to Dietzenbach Banhoef by S2. Maybe you took another line?
[/QUOTE]Yes, S2, but there are many other trains to Offenbach.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1714710]
At the club they still have a showcase with girl's pics? After I tried all RTC in NRW, I'll try Dietzenbach next July.[/QUOTE]Showcase is gone.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1714822]Showcase is gone.[/QUOTE]This is mean I have to ask directly to all girls for know who does anal and who dosent. Seems a hard job. LOL!!

From previous posts is seems that only a few ladies do anal like Andrea.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1714820]Vienna? What are the places to go there?[/QUOTE]Tons of stuff on the Vienna board here on ISG. In short, there are two FKKs, one very good strip club / brothel (Maxim), peepshow / brothel, dozens of top-tier studios, and tons of lower-quality versions of everything. It's a bit more expensive than Germany. Given all that you have right there, I wouldn't find a compelling reason to travel to Vienna for everything you can get right at home.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1714894]It's a bit more expensive than Germany. Given all that you have right there, I wouldn't find a compelling reason to travel to Vienna for everything you can get right at home.[/QUOTE]Right, but if I happen to be there with some extra time.

[QUOTE=Max#01;1714894]Tons of stuff on the Vienna board here on ISG. In short, there are two FKKs, one very good strip club / brothel (Maxim), peepshow / brothel, dozens of top-tier studios, and tons of lower-quality versions of everything.
[/QUOTE]But no Partytreff clubs?

[QUOTE=Max#01;1714894]Tons of stuff on the Vienna board here on ISG. In short, there are two FKKs, one very good strip club / brothel (Maxim), peepshow / brothel, dozens of top-tier studios, and tons of lower-quality versions of everything. It's a bit more expensive than Germany. Given all that you have right there, I wouldn't find a compelling reason to travel to Vienna for everything you can get right at home.[/QUOTE]Is there BBFS in Vienna at any of these places?

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1714590]with the AO ban rapidly approaching I wanted to get in one last hurrah, and this is really the only time I could squeeze in a trip..[/QUOTE]Hilarious, your report mirrors exactly my own impressions and experiences almost to the last detail, from my trip April 17 and 18!

I also creampied Alice and Anna twice, they are both very hot! I also AOed Vanessa, a girl with a good body but crappy attitude, very annoying he she barks orders in her manly voice- do this, do that, then runs out of the room as soon as you cum. The tall girl with the pierced nipple and glasses does not do AO, so avoid her if you hate condoms like I do.

You're right this place can be pretty boring and the "food" is a terrible joke, and there are not many girls. Half of them are ugly and fat. However almost all of them were busy regardless.

What I do like about this place: the pleasant relaxed vibe and the way one thing can so easily lead to another, especially on the couches or anywhere- with no unnatural interruptions caused by the hated condom. I also like all the artwork they put on the walls that depict AO, implying that is the way it should be done. Did you notice the big painting right next to the lockers as you come in shows a guy cumming inside a girl's pussy and the cream is spilling out. Sometime there are BBBJ going on right there just as you come in, what a nice way to warm up to the atmosphere.

The first girl I banged was teeny Anna with her hard body and nice big rack. I jumped on top of her and pumped away, and could not last long before unloading a huge cream pie, half of which flowed onto her ass. Afterwards we went downstairs and it felt surreal as I handed her 30 Eur, for creampie-ing a hot teeny that was worth the trip.

I also tried to bang the hot, thin brunette with the long hair but could not snag her. I saw her giving head to a guy on the couch a wow could she take a pole to the hilt. A minute later I glanced over and she was was riding on top of the guy cranking her hips like crazy, she was really into it. That convinced me she was worth it.

Alice I found so irresistible I creampied her twice and would have gladly done so a third time, but had to leave town the next day. I also recall a guy jumping on top of her in the main room and pinned her ankles behind her ears and was pumping her like his life depended on it. It created a sensational scene that attracted some viewers. Eventually he rolled over spent, and she got up and put her hand on her snatch to prevent the cum from flowing all over the carpet and couch.

I was also motivated by a desire to see this AO club before it is (apparently?) disallowed next year. I'll be keeping a tab and hope to go back in November.

[QUOTE=MarineOne;1717601]Is there BBFS in Vienna at any of these places?[/QUOTE]AO is available in Vienna, but you have to know where and how to look for it. Check out the Vienna forum for details. To answer your direct question, I have never asked for AO at any of these clubs and have never gotten any vibes that it is even available.

[QUOTE=MarineOne;1717609]

I also tried to bang the hot, thin brunette with the long hair but could not snag her. I saw her giving head to a guy on the couch a wow could she take a pole to the hilt. A minute later I glanced over and she was was riding on top of the guy cranking her hips like crazy, she was really into it. That convinced me she was worth it.

[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that was Bianca, the hip movement was incredible, pussy was tight, a great fuck! Depending on reports I may try one more trip in September, but I think AO will pretty much be done by then.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1718886]Pretty sure that was Bianca, the hip movement was incredible, pussy was tight, a great fuck! Depending on reports I may try one more trip in September, but I think AO will pretty much be done by then.[/QUOTE]I thought I read one of SW's rants about the official law not taking effect till Jan. 2016.

Whilst at FKK Dietz I recently came across 4 of the women at this place who are often talked about in this thread attracting the highest of praise. To say I was severely disappointed by their looks would be an extreme understatement. Not all 4 of them were there every day which was probably just as well. Of the 4, Ina now works 6 days a week as the receptionist and Andrea is there most days like the other girls. However I only saw Milenia and Tina one day out of three.

I would hesitate to call them girls because they were 10 20 years older than the others, significantly overweight and clearly less attractive. It was like comparing sugar and salt. Nothing, not even their much vaunted 'service levels ' would have enticed me to go near them 3 of them although I did give Andrea a go and was clearly underwhelmed.

[U]Milenia[/U]

On my third day at Dietz I saw this tall woman with blonde hair sitting on a couch with her back to me. I felt a sudden rush of excitement that there was this new blonde girl in the club that I hadn't seen before. I quickly circled round to have a better look but then the realization hit me. This was not some new nymph but a ggilf. Dyed blonde hair, old and wrinkly. We are talking deep wrinkles all over her face and body including under her shoulder blades as well. She looked at least late 40's or even in her 50's, however I never got that near to have a closer look. Later I saw this white haired old gentleman sitting beside her on the couch. Luckily for me I didn't need to avert my eyes as they skipped the usual pre-room couch action and headed for the room directly moving ever so slowly in keeping with their advanced years.

[U]Ina[/U]

Round shoulders, rolls of fat around her middle, plain round face. On the positive side she does understand and speak English reasonably well. She is also professional and diligent whilst conducting her receptionist duties. However she looked fat and plump even with her clothes on and I never saw her with them off. Luckily my imagination does not stretch that far.

[U]Andrea[/U]

Butch figure and appearance like a female basketball player. So we are talking thick legs and solid shoulders. Not excessively fat but pear shaped and not slender like some of the others. She wears severe glasses which makes her look even more unattractive than she already is (and I am someone who generally find girls who wear glasses sexy). However she looks cross eyed when she takes the glasses off so it is debatable whether it is better if she keep them off or on. Clinical and brisk in manner like an efficient secretary. I did give her a go in the end because I wanted to try anal but it was like going to the dentist. An efficient, mechanical and totally unengaging experience.

[U]Tina[/U]

Plump and out of shape. Unattractive face and definitely she is probably in her 30's. Clearly Asian in looks but even a below average MILF from Thailand would look far more attractive than her to just about anyone. She wears small glasses which she squints out of making her look like a female version of general Hirohito. Polite in manner and reasonable English but I'm sorry not for me, thank you all the same!

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1718943]I thought I read one of SW's rants about the official law not taking effect till Jan. 2016.[/QUOTE]My limited understanding on the new law from reading posts in the AO section, has to do with early compliance and likely inspections. In other words if a club starts to enforce the new law well before it goes into effect, then there is less likelihood they will get "surprise" inspections after the new law goes in effect. So basically if I am proactive and start to ban AO in say August and enforce it, then the chances of getting an surprise inspection is much less.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1719373]My limited understanding on the new law from reading posts in the AO section, has to do with early compliance and likely inspections. In other words if a club starts to enforce the new law well before it goes into effect, then there is less likelihood they will get "surprise" inspections after the new law goes in effect. So basically if I am proactive and start to ban AO in say August and enforce it, then the chances of getting an surprise inspection is much less.[/QUOTE]Even if they start the inspections, I would assume previous regulars will still receive AO. Kind of like F39 ban on AO. When business fell of a cliff, AO with regulars / previous clients was ok. Other than Anna, Nadine & Alice, what are the others girls going to do? Work the rld? Dietz & the rest of the RTC chain will have to close if there is zero chance of AO.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719334]Whilst at FKK Dietz I recently came across 4 of the women at this place who are often talked about in this thread attracting the highest of praise. To say I was severely disappointed by their looks would be an extreme understatement. Not all 4 of them were there every day which was probably just as well. Of the 4, Ina now works 6 days a week as the receptionist and Andrea is there most days like the other girls. However I only saw Milenia and Tina one day out of three.

I would hesitate to call them girls because they were 10 20 years older than the others, significantly overweight and clearly less attractive. It was like comparing sugar and salt. Nothing, not even their much vaunted 'service levels ' would have enticed me to go near them 3 of them although I did give Andrea a go and was clearly underwhelmed.
[/QUOTE]Looks are a matter of taste, of course, but I (and several others) are quite happy with these three. (I was also underwhelmed by Andrea; I did anal with her once.) Milena is probably one of the thinnest women there, no way is she fat. Tina has, for me, an average figure, and while Ina might be a bit plump, she is far from fat. You didn't experience it, as you say, but their service is very good.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1719498] Milena is probably one of the thinnest women there, no way is she fat.[/QUOTE]Sven,

You're right in that she is thin for her age it was just that I was totally thrown by how ancient she was. Unfortunately she has the wrinkles and sagging skin that inevitably comes with the passing of time. Now I had read many, many reports about her and as a result was looking for this hot, skinny blonde wearing stockings who had the reputation of tossing salad better than a wet behind the ears youngster on their first job at McDonalds. Then when I saw her my first thoughts were that she looked so doddery that if she wasn't already sitting down on a couch then I would have got up and offered her my own seat.

On the positive side, the four 'condom only' women seem to be more relaxed and in generally better mood than their AO colleagues who looked jittery or downcast sitting there pondering when they were going to get their next 'fix' of bare cock.

I am curious about how you avoid eating the last customers cream pie? I like DATY but don't generally eat even my own cream pie, do the ladies douche between customers? Or do you take that chance?

[QUOTE=RalphT;1720448]I am curious about how you avoid eating the last customers cream pie? I like DATY but don't generally eat even my own cream pie, do the ladies douche between customers? Or do you take that chance?[/QUOTE]Yes the girls do wash them selves out between customers. Not sure exactly how deep they wash, but they do wash.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
You're right in that she is thin for her age
[/QUOTE]Milena is thin for any age.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
it was just that I was totally thrown by how ancient she was. Unfortunately she has the wrinkles and sagging skin that inevitably comes with the passing of time.
[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself? If it hasn't happened yet, it will. I don't know how old she is, probably in her 40's.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
Now I had read many, many reports about her and as a result was looking for this hot, skinny blonde wearing stockings who had the reputation of tossing salad better than a wet behind the ears youngster on their first job at McDonalds.
[/QUOTE]She was there. And she can really toss that salad truly excellently.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
Then when I saw her my first thoughts were that she looked so doddery that if she wasn't already sitting down on a couch then I would have got up and offered her my own seat.
[/QUOTE]Yes, we all have to die, but don't make her out to be older than she is.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
On the positive side, the four 'condom only' women
[/QUOTE]Who is the fourth?

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1719789]
seem to be more relaxed and in generally better mood than their AO colleagues who looked jittery or downcast sitting there pondering when they were going to get their next 'fix' of bare cock.[/QUOTE]I've met just a few working women who are not in it mainly for the money, and of those I haven't met any who do AO. The AO women do AO because it means more money, not because they are into it. They probably assume that they will be in the business just for a short while. On the other hand, those who really do enjoy it will stay in the business longer. It is no coincidence that some of the best providers I have experienced are in their 50's, including the legendary Ute from Mettmann. If they stay in the business longer, they are more concerned about long-term health risks, and thus don't do AO.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1720953]Who is the fourth?[/QUOTE]I thought it had been mentioned in many posts that Tina, Ina, Milena and Andrea were the four women who always insisted on gummis for full sex.

[QUOTE=VSail;1687686] Tina, Ina, Milena and Andrea are the ones who are mentioned as "not an AO girl"
[/QUOTE]If that is not the case, and one of these four is now happy to ride bare, then please let me know which one has broken ranks and I might try her for size the next time I visit.

For all you connoisseurs of Tina & Milena you may want to try them as a double-team. I did today and it was quite the session.

Hi all,

Been lurking on the Frankfurt and FKK thread for about two weeks. Thanks to all for the info in this thread. There's been a lot of discussion about the looks of the ladies at FKK 40 both good and bad. Not looking to start a flame war about the ladies look so. From what I've read there used to be pictures of the ladies on their website and at the entrance. I know all you perverts have some trophy pics stashed away. As do I of ladies here in the US so. If you have them let's post them up. I would assume that pics should respect the ladies' privacy. I found a few stock photos but nothing that says who the lady is. Thanks to all that can shed some light and I'm counting the days until my arrival.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1722589]For all you connoisseurs of Tina & Milena you may want to try them as a double-team. I did today and it was quite the session.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it was, but I would rather pay EUR 60 for half an hour with each girl, rather then EUR 60 for only half an hour altogether, even if both of them are there.

[QUOTE=DixieWrecked88;1722598]Hi all,

Been lurking on the Frankfurt and FKK thread for about two weeks. Thanks to all for the info in this thread. There's been a lot of discussion about the looks of the ladies at FKK 40 both good and bad. Not looking to start a flame war about the ladies look so. From what I've read there used to be pictures of the ladies on their website and at the entrance. I know all you perverts have some trophy pics stashed away. As do I of ladies here in the US so. If you have them let's post them up. I would assume that pics should respect the ladies' privacy. I found a few stock photos but nothing that says who the lady is. Thanks to all that can shed some light and I'm counting the days until my arrival.[/QUOTE]The website photos are hopelessly out of date (assuming they were real at all). Yes, there used to be photos at the bar, listing what they do. That was mainly to cater to AO customers.

I read on a German forum that one hour costs 120 €.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1723781]Yes, there used to be photos at the bar, listing what they do. [/QUOTE]The photos are back. Also is "Theken Tina". And a one hour session now is 120 EUR. So better take 30 min, take the girl to the reception, pay her, wait 5 min, take her back to the room. Will cost you 60 EUR.

HB.

I was there last week 21/4/15 and it was still only 30 E for 3 minutes however the girl did say it was now 120 E for the hour.

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz;1725411]I was there last week 21/4/15 and it was still only 30 E for 3 minutes however the girl did say it was now 120 E for the hour.[/QUOTE]You mean it is 30 euros for half an hour, 120 euros for an hour?

And 40 euros to enter?

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz;1725411]I was there last week 21/4/15 and it was still only 30 E for 3 minutes however the girl did say it was now 120 E for the hour.[/QUOTE]This makes no sense at all. Are you sure?

Did you see my post? It's a fact. It's the same intention as with the old system when you played at the reception: To keep guys from blocking girls for a longer period by charging a high price. The girl gets 60 EUR, the club gets 60 EUR.

HB.

I was as disbelieving as Sven when the same thing happened to me at Villa Venus. Who knows how long it will last, the rates keep changing in response to who knows what.

Yes for sure, I went on Wednesday and Thursday last week, 40 E entry and 30 E for the girl for 30 minutes. I asked the girl to extend and she told me it would be 120 for the hour. I am sure it is to stop blocking for the house the girl and the punters. Paid to the girl at reception after the session, madam still asks if the service was good. Not sure what she would do if you said it was crap? A side note (did spend a wonderful afternoon at FKK OASE today).

Can't you just come out after 30 minutes and pay the thekefrau another 30 euro for 30 minutes? I do this at ACA on weekends since they have 1 hour maximums. Some nights I have to do it 4-5 times in a row if we pick the popular rooms.

See post #471. Somebody posted exactly that. Clever guy. Ah. Was me. LOL.

HB.

End of AO??

I had a great time when I went to Germany last month, and I would like to try one more trip in possible Sept / October time frame. Will AO still be available at Dietzenbach at that time? Or will it be pretty much wrapped up.

There are no signs that AO will be banned before 2016.

HB.

Somehow, I think this new law is giving these places *more* business now than before!

On a weekday, I've never seen any more than 3-4 girls at a place like Arabella and they were like the ugly ones. When I went a few days ago, I got 10 to choose from and I picked the best looking of the bunch.

As for Dietzenbach, I saw 20 girls on the pictures but counted 21 at the start (one girl ran errands but worked there later in the day). I picked 12 different girls but my friend picked 3 he repeated (one of them 3 x but not consecutively!) and we would have continued but our time ran out for the day (after the last call bell)!

[QUOTE=WanderingGroo;1732313]Somehow, I think this new law is giving these places *more* business now than before!

As for Dietzenbach, I saw 20 girls on the pictures but counted 21 at the start (one girl ran errands but worked there later in the day). I picked 12 different girls but my friend picked 3 he repeated (one of them 3 x but not consecutively!) and we would have continued but our time ran out for the day (after the last call bell)![/QUOTE]Did you fuck your 39 girls without condom? After other men, for your tour, no judgement, just thinking if more risky or not to turn off car light at night on autobahn when more than 200 km / h speed without following very close an other car of course because would be too easy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1732412]Did you fuck your 39 girls without condom? After other men, for your tour, no judgement, just thinking if more risky or not to turn off car light at night on autobahn when more than 200 km / h speed without following very close an other car of course because would be too easy.[/QUOTE]Yes. Although one girl at Arabella that I did with condom (Tina).

Was there two weeks ago on a Saturday. I found the line-up better than my previous visits.

Vanessa: Nice face and body but sex was quite mechanical and rushed.

Roxana: Slightly chubby but nice body. Blonde. Friendly girl. Sex was better than Vanessa in bed.

Carmen: Good nice GFE. She was really into it. A lot of cuddling and giggling after the session in the bed.

With all three, we went through the same typical ritual of Dietzenbach.

This time there was much more public sex than before. At almost any point in time someone was fucking on the couches.

I can't remember all 12 names off the top of my head but I avoided Andrea (had her last visit, not wowed) and Tina (looks like someone I know).

The secret to recovering fast is drink plenty of water because you will be using.

Nadine -because of her bottom teeth, her BJ tend to hurt a little. I just quickly go right to the sex! Usually very busy but best to get her early.

Dani. I picked her because she's very tall (about 175 mm). Doesn't like 69 position because. Well. She too tall! Still interesting session!

Vanessa. After giving her a back (she definitely needed it!) and foot massage on the couch, we had a great session! We still had time after I came so I just rubbed her back and butt.

Alice. Blonde Romanian who I would definitely have repeat sessions with whenever possible! Very friendly and playful.

Anna. Great session! Felt very comfortable with her.

Oana. Seemed a little rushed but I might give her another chance next time to make sure.

Alina. Very skinny girl. Still lots of fun.

Dana. Pretty good session. Happy and cheerful.

Gina. Not a bad session. I was satisfied!

As for the names of the other three girls, I can't remember right now but I had a great time there with no complaints.

I avoided the desperate chubby girl who's always hanging around near the front of the room (forgot her name).

[QUOTE=WanderingGroo;1733147]The secret to recovering fast is drink plenty of water because you will be using.[/QUOTE]I have no clue why that came out like that but the statement really is, "The secret to covering fast is to drink plenty of water because you will be needing it to replenish after cumming!

Anyway, this trip I took NO Viagra, Cialis, or any of those pills! I relied on drinking plenty of water (even if it is carbonated water) and fruits like bananas, pears, etc.

[QUOTE=WanderingGroo;1733147]I avoided the desperate chubby girl who's always hanging around near the front of the room (forgot her name).[/QUOTE]Anka or Marie.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1731123]There are no signs that AO will be banned before 2016.

HB.[/QUOTE]What about after NYE 2016? Maybe people who can read the German news and forums can advise us if there has been any sign that this will not go ahead?

I hope to make it back to Dietzenbach in late August or early September. I hope to have a session with two girls. Which two girls would you recommend? On my last trip I really enjoyed Bianca, Alice and Anna. In the past I enjoyed Nadine, Oana and Roxanne. Didn't really connect with Vanessa. I know some girls don't like to work with each other as well.

Also I understand August could be "vacation" month. Would it be a wast of time for me to go in August will it be dead?

Thanks for any insight.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1735321]I hope to make it back to Dietzenbach in late August or early September. I hope to have a session with two girls. Which two girls would you recommend? On my last trip I really enjoyed Bianca, Alice and Anna. In the past I enjoyed Nadine, Oana and Roxanne. Didn't really connect with Vanessa. I know some girls don't like to work with each other as well.

Also I understand August could be "vacation" month. Would it be a wast of time for me to go in August will it be dead?

Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]Alice and Nadine (Anna would tie for second in my choice). If you want to connect to Vanessa, try to give her a good massage on the couch as these girls work all day. Plenty of books out there to help you learn about a good back and foot massage.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1735321]I hope to make it back to Dietzenbach in late August.

Also I understand August could be "vacation" month. Would it be a wast of time for me to go in August will it be dead?

Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]Where did you hear that about August? I would also be interested to know as I may be there is August too. You would think that it would be one of the peak customer months.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1735321]I hope to make it back to Dietzenbach in late August or early September. I hope to have a session with two girls. Which two girls would you recommend? On my last trip I really enjoyed Bianca, Alice and Anna. In the past I enjoyed Nadine, Oana and Roxanne. Didn't really connect with Vanessa. I know some girls don't like to work with each other as well.

Also I understand August could be "vacation" month. Would it be a wast of time for me to go in August will it be dead?

Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]I always had a great time with Alice plus another. I would ask Alice who she prefers then off to a room.

August does not effect the AO clubs much. Mostly the large FKK / sauna clubs might have a bunch of babes on vacation.

Finally a new babe, not some recycled girl from F39, Romantika & etc.

Attractive face, but not the traditional pretty face. I think she's attractive, but some might not agree. Medium size with a nice gymnast body. Toned bod with swimmer shoulders. Perky large full be's, long dark brown hair. Not a teeny fresh from some village. Mid 20's. New to the AO scene, but not to Germany. Zero English, but seems to speak German. Not just the 15-20 sex words, but full conversations. Just from what I noticed when she was on the couch with other clients.

Great service. Kissing, GFE very flexible body so you can work many angles! I find the way she carries herself & her personality very sexy. Nice to have sex with a woman instead of some hot teeny who jumps on top & expects you to bust a nut in 3 minutes just because its AO. She knows how to move her body in many positions. Not sure how long she plans to stay, but def worth a try!

I might visit this Club in the upcoming weeks.

How is the price structure and how about extras?

Entrance 40€.

30 min Price?

60 min Price?

90 min Price?

Anal?

CIM?

Thanks

Nille:

Entrance is 40.

30 min is 30 euro.

60 min is 120 euro.

90 min Price? : not sure if is ever defined on the price list.

Anal: If the girl does it, it's included in the base price. Only some girls offer it though.

CIM: Included in the price.

[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1739409]I might visit this Club in the upcoming weeks.

How is the price structure and how about extras?

Entrance 40.

30 min Price?

60 min Price?

90 min Price?

Anal?

CIM?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mattador;1740494]Nille:

Entrance is 40.

30 min is 30 euro.

60 min is 120 euro.

90 min Price? : not sure if is ever defined on the price list.

Anal: If the girl does it, it's included in the base price. Only some girls offer it though.

CIM: Included in the price.[/QUOTE]60 min is 80 euro.

After trying almost all of the RTC in NRW (Grimberg, Arabella, Villa Venus, Villa Romantika, Verena and F39), I will make my debut in Dietzenbach next week. From your post I remember that not many ladies here provide anal sex. I remember a blonde Andrea with glass and nipple's piercing. Is she still there? Other girls that offer anal?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1741922]Other girls that offer anal?[/QUOTE]The pictures if the girls and their various services are back in the glass cabinet on the counter, or at least they were last month when I visited, so you'll be able to see when you get there. There's only a few that do anal but can't remember their names offhand.

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1742002]The pictures if the girls and their various services are back in the glass cabinet on the counter, [/QUOTE]This is a good news. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1741922]After trying almost all of the RTC in NRW (Grimberg, Arabella, Villa Venus, Villa Romantika, Verena and F39), I will make my debut in Dietzenbach next week. From your post I remember that not many ladies here provide anal sex. I remember a blonde Andrea with glass and nipple's piercing. Is she still there? Other girls that offer anal?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Andrea is still there, but her services only condom. Not an AO girl.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1742166]Andrea is still there, but her services only condom. Not an AO girl.[/QUOTE]Thank's Vito, no problem for me if she isn't AO girl. I not go in a RTC for AO but for cheap price included CIM and Anal.

Planning my next trip! I was not planning on going back, since it is a long journey from the west coast of the USA, but I figure what the heck! My dates as of now are August 26-28. Thinking of spending all three days at Dietzenbach. I have not been to this club in the warmner weather, I have been to Oase in warmer weather. How is the ventilation in the rooms, main area. As far as I remember Oase got hot as hell and stuffy. Also is it ok to bring some chocolates and things for some of my favorite girls (Anna, Alice, Bianca? Not sure of that's ok. Can wait for this trip!

I was in Dietznbach few times two weeks ago during the hottest days in Frankfurt / Dusseldorf areas. Mid 90 to high 90's everyday. The club ventilation was poor but bearable (barely). Most rooms don't even have fans. Room one has a door leading to the roof top which helps. The main room has 3 to 4 fans.

They have a small kiddie pool at the patio now. It was actually being used, including me for amusement. I first joined Vanessa and Dani in the pool, then Anna and Madi came in also. Some of the local punters were laughing seeing 5 of us in the small pool. Another amusing sight I saw was Nadine was on her knees giving a guy BJ at the patio. Vanessa was standing next to them fanning them using a seat cushion. I called out "Now that's service. " They were giving out popsicles in the afternoon which was nice.

The temperature should be a lot cooler by late August.

Arrived 2 PM. Asked the receptionist if there would be a problem going out about 4-5 PM to get dinner and returning without paying again. She said no as long as it wasn't for too long (less than an hour or two). Paid the 40 Euro entry. Fortunately, there was no need to prepay for a session (as in VV) or choose up front how many sessions I wanted (as in Freude 39), otherwise I might have wasted another 30 Euro or did a fuck I didn't want to do.

Had some coffee after I changed, watching the women to see who I would do. 19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable. Only one, Dana (tall skinny brunette with hair tied up in a bun) was pretty and had a good body (although her tits were somewhat saggy). However, she reminded me too much of Raissa (formerly of Arabella) and seemed to have her same attitude, so I could never pull the trigger and go with her. Another woman, a blonde, had a good body for her age but her face was too hard-looking. The last, a brunette, had an acceptable body but I didn't like her face.

I walked around and sat for an hour and a half, looking at the women, trying to will myself to fuck one of them, but couldn't do it, so I decided to leave. When I was leaving the receptionist asked me if I was coming back, assuming I was going to dinner. I told her no. Surprised, she asked why. I told her there was no one I liked and left.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1745938]The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.[/QUOTE]Lineup must have drastically changed in all the AO clubs. I was there a month ago & the lu at Dietz was better than all the NRW lu combined. Was Alice, Anna, Lily at Dietz? Maybe off day or vacation? Gina with the great heavenly rack with nice slim bod, kind of cute face with dark gypsy skin. Alina & Nadine are OK. Dana has her moments, but soft loose body. Even Andrea looks good even though covered only. Roxy is getting bigger & bigger but still decent looking. Forgot the rest of the names.

Nothing special in the NRW. Only Kati, Roxana & Lilly at Grim belong with the lu at Dietz (Jasmine from VV was on vacation). Lisa & Janina at F39 above average & the the the the the the the that's all folks!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1745938]. 19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable. Only one, Dana (tall skinny brunette with hair tied up in a bun) was pretty and had a good body (although her tits were somewhat saggy). However, she reminded me too much of Raissa (formerly of Arabella) and seemed to have her same attitude, so I could never pull the trigger and go with her. Another woman, a blonde, had a good body for her age but her face was too hard-looking. The last, a brunette, had an acceptable body but I didn't like her face.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.[/QUOTE]I know that people have rounded on me for criticizing the looks of girls at clubs saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but, having read your account, I now know that this statement could not be more true.

Dana who you mentioned above is plain and ordinary looking to me. Not as good looking face wise as several others like Bianca, Nadin (if she doesn't show her teeth), Alice, Oana, Anna, Gina. In fact I only tried Dana last after I had tried many of the others. Almost like an afterthought. Also no one has ever reported that she had an attitude. In fact she seems meek and mild.

This compares to Alice, who I assume is the 'hard-looking face' blonde you mentioned. Now she is a true ice-cold mannered cow. Good body for her age is a great description because that hard-bitten, sour face of hers make her look a lot older than she probably is.

Raissa, erstwhile of Arabella, is a genuinely attractive girl who is friendly and chatty before you get her to the room but unfortunately is brisk and business like once she gets you there and puts you in the process. But in no way has she got the same attitude as Alice who looks like she is on a 24/7/365 period.

But if you could not "pull the trigger" with someone who looks like Raissa, who is genuinely attractive, and you could not pull the trigger with any of the 19 girls at Dietz because they repulsed you then I am wondering just who you could pull the trigger with.

What's one man's meat is another man's poison but the consensus that has emerged on these pages is that, of the RTC's, Freude 39 is the one that has more girls that guys find generally attractive. It also has one of the largest cast of girls at 20+ to choose. But this is heavily countered by the fact that the more attractive girls are invariably non-AO or AO-lite. Also the atmosphere there is more restrictive with signs formally forbidding AO and some girls not wanting to get involved in any public action at all. It is much more free and easy at somewhere like Dietz.

After F39 there is little to separate the other RTC clubs in terms of the looks of the girls. However if you are paying an entrance fee then it would make sense to me to go to a club which has a large number of girls so that you have a greater chance of finding at least one or two who are doable. Places like Dietz (and probably VV) have around 18+ girls most days. The other clubs have around a dozen or less.

When I read that you turned your nose up at all the girls in Dietz I assumed that you were someone who was conditioned to only going to the proper FKKs. But then you mentioned that you were going to stick to the NRW AO clubs which have lineups that are much more appealing so I was wondering which ones these would be.

La Luna is in NRW but you pay double the price for AO as you do at RTCs and the girls are not that much better looking.

Arabella? Villa Venus? Grimberg?

Others like Vito Corleone, who's judgement I trust, have said that they have done a 180 degree turn and made a sharp exit when they have visited these places recently.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1746324]
This compares to Alice, who I assume is the 'hard-looking face' blonde you mentioned. [/QUOTE]Alice has been on vacation since the end of June. The "hard-looking face" blonde JimmyBoy99 saw was probably either Melana or Susi. Both are in their mid to late 30's. Melana's face has more mileage on her and definitive more "hard looking". She has been working at Dietzenbach on and off for a while, Susi just started there few weeks ago.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1746324]Dana who you mentioned above is plain and ordinary looking to me. Not as good looking face wise as several others like Bianca, Nadin (if she doesn't show her teeth), Alice, Oana, Anna, Gina. In fact I only tried Dana last after I had tried many of the others. Almost like an afterthought. Also no one has ever reported that she had an attitude. In fact she seems meek and mild.

Raissa, erstwhile of Arabella, is a genuinely attractive girl who is friendly and chatty before you get her to the room but unfortunately is brisk and business like once she gets you there and puts you in the process. But in no way has she got the same attitude as Alice who looks like she is on a 24/7/365 period.

What's one man's meat is another man's poison but the consensus that has emerged on these pages is that, of the RTC's, Freude 39 is the one that has more girls that guys find generally attractive. It also has one of the largest cast of girls at 20+ to choose. But this is heavily countered by the fact that the more attractive girls are invariably non-AO or AO-lite. Also the atmosphere there is more restrictive with signs formally forbidding AO and some girls not wanting to get involved in any public action at all. It is much more free and easy at somewhere like Dietz.

After F39 there is little to separate the other RTC clubs in terms of the looks of the girls. However if you are paying an entrance fee then it would make sense to me to go to a club which has a large number of girls so that you have a greater chance of finding at least one or two who are doable. Places like Dietz (and probably VV) have around 18+ girls most days. The other clubs have around a dozen or less.

When I read that you turned your nose up at all the girls in Dietz I assumed that you were someone who was conditioned to only going to the proper FKKs. But then you mentioned that you were going to stick to the NRW AO clubs which have lineups that are much more appealing so I was wondering which ones these would be. Arabella? Villa Venus? Grimberg?

Others like Vito Corleone, who's judgement I trust, have said that they have done a 180 degree turn and made a sharp exit when they have visited these places recently.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1746307]Lineup must have drastically changed in all the AO clubs. I was there a month ago & the lu at Dietz was better than all the NRW lu combined. Was Alice, Anna, Lily at Dietz? Maybe off day or vacation? Gina with the great heavenly rack with nice slim bod, kind of cute face with dark gypsy skin. Alina & Nadine are OK. Dana has her moments, but soft loose body. Even Andrea looks good even though covered only. Roxy is getting bigger & bigger but still decent looking. Forgot the rest of the names.

Nothing special in the NRW. Only Kati, Roxana & Lilly at Grim belong with the lu at Dietz (Jasmine from VV was on vacation). Lisa & Janina at F39 above average & the the the the the the the that's all folks![/QUOTE]There were two Danas in the pictures by reception. One Dana was average and plain looking. The one I referred to is practically a twin of Raissa and was pretty and seemed pretty fit (Vito, perhaps you meant the other Dana as having a soft loose body). She also didn't seem meek and mild but more of a Princess attitude. The reason I didn't go with her was that I had been with Raissa a few times and the sessions was not very good, and it seemed she would be a repeat of those sessions.

I had four sessions over two days at VV. On Friday I did Lily (Ro) for old times sake and Alana (BU) because I had been cock-blocked in getting to her pretty Bulgarian friend Mariannne. Both of these were better looking than the girls at Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin) and they were not even the prettiest ones there. There were three prettier ones: Marianne; one girl who totally ignored me; and one who left at 9 PM before I was ready for her after going with Lily.

I came back on Sunday and did Marianne and also Jazmin, who had just returned that day from Romania, a tall, very pretty girl with a very good body. Both were far better than anyone at Dietzenbach, even the Raissa twin.

On Saturday I did four girls at Freude: Beatrix, a pretty blonde with very nice body (but not A / O); Anita, chubby blonde (even chubbier than before) for old times sake and to fuck her ass; Melissa, blonde with pretty face but somewhat saggy boobs; and a brunette whose name I don't recall. There was also Alexa, a beautiful brunette who ignored me all day and when I asked her if she would be free after her lunch, she curtly said she was busy (which she was, but never came by after to chat even though I was obviously interested). All of them were prettier than the ones at Dietzenbach, with Beatrix and Alexa way above them.

On Sunday I went to Grimberg to see Micky but she wasn't there and the pictures at the reception (plus the girls I could see) did not look so good (except for Kati, who does let me fuck her anymore because I fucked too long in our initial session) so I left and went to Romantika. Only 5 girls on hand. Was going to walk out when Alina came over and asked me to stay. Her face was OK and she had a nice slim body so I stayed, thinking I would do just her, since the others were not doable because of body or face or both. However, Simone's attractiveness grew on me (especially her very nice tits) so I sessioned with her also.

As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).

First time in this RTC. I and my friend arrived around 13.30, ring a bell and a nice blonde girl (Simona) come to greeting us. Check out the showcase, 15 girls all did AO, here unlike the RTC in NRW the photo does not say the "specialties".

Pay 40 euro, undressed, shower, take a coke and look around. I decided to start with Simona, a blonde bulgarian girl. Her english is poor, so we move in the room. I asked her if she did anal, and she said yes. Start with a good BBBJ, wear condom and start with a cowgirl, move to doggystyle. Tried to fuck her ass but she said no no. WTF! Before she said "yes no problem" This really let me down. Fucked her doggy till cum.

After some rest and some food, I sat near Gina a lovely big boobs 21 yo from Romania, her english was ok and she offered me a 3 some with Vanesa. I thought "why not" if she offer me maybe they are a good team. 3 some was not a great choice because Vanessa speak a good italian but her service was too much mechanical, Gina was good and GFE. They gave me a double BBBJ, and I fuck them both in cowgirl and doggy. After my cum, they open the door of the room and we realx together on the bed and chatting while them smoked a cigarette, I asked which girls do anal in the club, and they said that only Simona did it this day. Fuck this make me angry and said them that she not let me fuck her ass and Vanessa suggest me to complain with TF, but I didn't because she don't speak english and also if I complain this it would not change anything. Is a fourth time that bulgarian girls had this bad behavior in RTC!

Third room was with Ramona, 28 yo from Romania. She is a small girl with small boobs and nice ass, she tried to do her best, but her skills are not so great and this time I was unable to finish.

I took a long rest and thought about next room, I would like to took Gina again only me and her this time but I also would like to fuck Anna that have a great body and look cute. Gina was busy, so I decided to sat next to Anna, she seems "shy" and not very sociable but when she said that have only 19 yo I really want to try her. In the room she gave me a great BBBJ, I was very tired and I had difficult to make my cock hard but she did her job, try to put condom 2 times but everytime that make me lose the erection. Looked at this lovely and young pussy and I thought that I must to fuck, so I decided for my first AO and I fucked her doggy till CIP. Obviously now I'm paranoid!!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1746414]As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).[/QUOTE]Thank you for some significant recent contributions to this thread Jimmy Boy but I am still wrestling with what seem to be some inconsistencies and illogicalities in what you say.

You turned down Dana at Dietz who had saggy boobs but then you went with Melissa at Freude who had "somewhat saggy boobs".

You were afraid to go with a girl at Dietz because she reminded you of Raisa who had not given you good sessions in the past. Yet you hunted down a girl at Freude who you said "ignored me all day" and made no attempt to approach you even though she knew you were clearly interested in her.

As for the girls at Freude.

I've seen Anita and chubby doesn't describe it. She is fat. She is short and as wide as she is tall. Almost like a round dough ball. I recall catching sight of her while talking to a German customer and we both agreed that it did not matter what she offered, none of us were going with her.

I waited a long time to go with Beatrix as she was busy with guys all day. In the end I wondered what the fuss was about. It was not so much the fact that she didn't do AO as that she was too shy to give a blow job whilst we sat on the couch and in the room her BJ was so insipid that I called time early. She was disappointed that I did not complete but not as much as I was.

As for the girls at other RTCs apart from Dietz.

You said that the girls at Grimberg "did not look so good" except for one girl who refused to go with you and at Romantika you were "going to walk out" until you were implored to stay. So it seems that it is not just Dietz but other RTCs that are not meeting with expectations.

However at VV there are apparently 5 girls there who are far prettier than Raissa who was universally acknowledged on this board and others as one of the most attractive RTC girls in memory?

Hitherto the reports from VV were consistent in that the girls were unattractive, plain or ordinary apart from a couple. I wonder what it is that brought about this sudden change in Villa Venus's fortunes?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1746414]There were two Danas in the pictures by reception. One Dana was average and plain looking. The one I referred to is practically a twin of Raissa and was pretty and seemed pretty fit (Vito, perhaps you meant the other Dana as having a soft loose body). She also didn't seem meek and mild but more of a Princess attitude. The reason I didn't go with her was that I had been with Raissa a few times and the sessions was not very good, and it seemed she would be a repeat of those sessions.

I came back on Sunday and did Marianne and also Jazmin, who had just returned that day from Romania, a tall, very pretty girl with a very good body. Both were far better than anyone at Dietzenbach, even the Raissa twin.

As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).[/QUOTE]Great report Jimmy Boy!

Not sure who the new Dana is. If she's a Raissa twin then she must be smoking hot! Jasmine is a hottie. 6'1 w / o heels! Those legs, legs legs legs!

Beatrix at F39 is attractive, but not hot enough to bang her covered. I look forward to checking out this Marianne babe next trip!

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1746492]Anna, she seems "shy" and not very sociable but when she said that have only 19 yo I really want to try her. In the room she gave me a great BBBJ, I was very tired and I had difficult to make my cock hard but she did her job, try to put condom 2 times but everytime that make me lose the erection. Looked at this lovely and young pussy and I thought that I must to fuck, so I decided for my first AO and I fucked her doggy till CIP. Obviously now I'm paranoid!![/QUOTE]Great report CG.

Anna seems shy / aloof because she's very young & speaks zero English. What a hot piece of ass she is. I was also paranoid the first time I slide into her BB. I was paranoid I wouldn't last 5 min!

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1745896]Planning my next trip! I was not planning on going back, since it is a long journey from the west coast of the USA, but I figure what the heck! My dates as of now are August 26-28. Thinking of spending all three days at Dietzenbach. I have not been to this club in the warmner weather, I have been to Oase in warmer weather. How is the ventilation in the rooms, main area. As far as I remember Oase got hot as hell and stuffy. Also is it ok to bring some chocolates and things for some of my favorite girls (Anna, Alice, Bianca? Not sure of that's ok. Can wait for this trip![/QUOTE]Unless you are in a room with a window, ventilation is crap. Those crappy rooms on the main floor are also crap. When my cock is marinating in some hot young tight pussy, the sauna feel doesn't bother me until I'm done.

The girls love gifts from clients.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1746732]Thank you for some significant recent contributions to this thread Jimmy Boy but I am still wrestling with what seem to be some inconsistencies and illogicalities in what you say.

You turned down Dana at Dietz who had saggy boobs but then you went with Melissa at Freude who had "somewhat saggy boobs".

You were afraid to go with a girl at Dietz because she reminded you of Raisa who had not given you good sessions in the past. Yet you hunted down a girl at Freude who you said "ignored me all day" and made no attempt to approach you even though she knew you were clearly interested in her.

I've seen Anita and chubby doesn't describe it. She is fat. She is short and as wide as she is tall. Almost like a round dough ball. I recall catching sight of her while talking to a German customer and we both agreed that it did not matter what she offered, none of us were going with her.

You said that the girls at Grimberg "did not look so good" except for one girl who refused to go with you and at Romantika you were "going to walk out" until you were implored to stay. So it seems that it is not just Dietz but other RTCs that are not meeting with expectations.

However at VV there are apparently 5 girls there who are far prettier than Raissa who was universally acknowledged on this board and others as one of the most attractive RTC girls in memory?

Hitherto the reports from VV were consistent in that the girls were unattractive, plain or ordinary apart from a couple. I wonder what it is that brought about this sudden change in Villa Venus's fortunes?[/QUOTE]I confess to some inconsistency, since, as Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. ", but not the illogical label. I didn't go wiith Dana not because of her saggy boobs (which were only a little saggy) but because she reminded me of Raisa and seemed to have the same Princess attitude. Had I not gone with Raisa previously and had those less than satisfactory experiences, I cetainly would have tried to go with Dana, her attitude and indifference be dammed. However, having previously gone with Raisa dulled the need to go with her twin, while Alexa was a girl I had not tried before and wanted to experience.

You are correct about Anita. I was being kind. I first went with her In November of last year and had a great session with her and with her and Lisa. When I saw her in April, she had gained some weight and I did not with her, but did go twice with Lisa. When I saw her in July, I was taken aback by how much weight she had gained and thought to myself there was no way I could go with her. However, as other than Beatrix and Alexa, there was not a great deal to choose from, I acquiesced when she asked me to sit with her and talk, while fully intending not to go with her. However, she overcame my resistance with her touching and smiling and got me hard in spite of myself and so I went with her and had a good session. Shows that for me, at least, a pretty face and a sweet personality can overcome serious body issues. I also may have felt I owed her a session since I didn't go with her the last time.

I did not state that all clubs in the NWR were all better than Dietzenbach, just that the area was better for this type of activity. The problem with Dietzenbach is that it is the only club of its kind in the area (that I am aware of). If you don't like the lineup, you're fucked (or not, unfortunately). In the NWR, within an hour drive or less, you have VV, La Luna, Grimberg, Freude, Romantika, Verena, plus probably a few other clubs whose names I don't remember, so if you don't like the lineup in one club you can easily go to another and see if it is any better. What I regretted about going to Dietzenbach was that I could have stayed another day in the NWR and sessioned a few more times rather than wasting my last day in Germany with no A / O sessions. I will not do that again, but if you are not in the NWR area and are only in Frankfurt, then Dietzenbach is probably your only real option for A / O, no matter what the girls look like, which may be why people actually pay to fuck the girls there.

I said that Marianne and Jasmin at VV were prettier. To clarify, I found the face and body package of these two girls better than the face and body package of Dana.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1747144]I said that Marianne and Jasmin at VV were prettier. To clarify, I found the face and body package of these two girls better than the face and body package of Dana.[/QUOTE]Marianna and Jasmine are indeed two pretty girls in VV. Another new pretty girl there is Anna Marie, just started there few weeks ago. 19 years old and full of energy, speaks decent English.

In Dietzenbach, there are Dana and Dani. Both have been there for a while. Dana is taller, slender, a little bit older, and with bigger but slightly sagging boobs. She usually sits at the couch directly facing the steps as you enter the big room. She speaks decent English. Her service is in par with other girls there. Dani has a prettier face (but not supper hot in IMHO) and nicer body. Have not been with her yet.

Another girl returned few weeks ago to Dietzenbach from her brief retirement last November is Julia with dyed blonde hair. She used to go by the name Anna. She lost the name Anna since a new Anna arrived during her brief retirement.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1747227]Another girl returned few weeks ago to Dietzenbach from her brief retirement last November is Julia with dyed blonde hair. She used to go by the name Anna. She lost the name Anna since a new Anna arrived during her brief retirement.[/QUOTE]What does Julia look like, tall, slender? Does she allow AO and CIP? Looking forward to my trip at end of August!

Was curious on FKK Dietzenbach, and felt that it was a good place to go to if fucking really many girls without spending too much cash. 16 girls worked this Monday, but the LU was horrible. Maybe 3-4 of girls that could work at another FKK, but the rest was just of lower standard. The club itself isn't very nice, and there is literary nothing to do between sessions except sitting in sofa watching porn. The only good things with this club are the low prices (40 EUR entrance, 30 EUR per girl), all extras are included (if the girl perform the extra), and that the girls aren't allowed to hunt guys. All girls are sitting or walking around, and the guy must make contact and sit down with her. Some of the sharks at other clubs wouldn't last a minute here. .

Sauna and showers are old and not very nice, self-service on drinks and fruit (no food available).

As I wanted to fuck many girls that day, it was however the perfect club. I also did some sessions with threesome, just being able to do it without costing too much. Did in total of the 8 girls, but it was only the beautiful Jasmine that stuck to my head after leaving the club. Only 1 girls (Simona, fake blond hair) offered anal, but her arse was all sloppy and loose so I think everyone is doing her just for the anal.

Will not come back to the club, however I liked the non-contact seeking from the girls. Some other clubs might try that also, at least some nights a week.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1747349]What does Julia look like, tall, slender? Does she allow AO and CIP? Looking forward to my trip at end of August![/QUOTE]She's cute with nice normal bod for an AO club. AO & CIP. Used to be Julia 2 yrs ago at Venus during the broken auto glass everywhere time.

[QUOTE=Skeden80;1747407]16 girls worked this Monday, but the LU was horrible. The only good things with this club are the low prices (40 EUR entrance, 30 EUR per girl), all extras are included (if the girl perform the extra), and that the girls aren't allowed to hunt guys.

Will not come back to the club[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1745938] 19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them.

I walked around and sat for an hour and a half, looking at the women, trying to will myself to fuck one of them, but couldn't do it.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do.[/QUOTE]Got to laugh that some guys find the women here so repulsive that they would need a sick bucket after only just a brief look at the line up.

Whereas others look forward to travelling almost halfway across the world so they can spend their whole holiday time at the place.

Clearly some guys have way lower standards, in terms of what is decent, compared to others.

I plan to go end of August, is there an up charge for two girls at same time? Or is it just 30 x2 for 30 min? Can you switch between girls (AO) or do they make you wash up between girls in the room?

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1748489]I plan to go end of August, is there an up charge for two girls at same time? Or is it just 30E x2 for 30 min?[/QUOTE]No extra charge, 30 x 2 for 30 min. Yes, you can switch between the girls.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1748489]I plan to go end of August, is there an up charge for two girls at same time? Or is it just 30 x2 for 30 min? Can you switch between girls (AO) or do they make you wash up between girls in the room?[/QUOTE]Same price. Washing, depends on the girl. You should ask first.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1748592]No extra charge, 30 x 2 for 30 min. Yes, you can switch between the girls.[/QUOTE]It's fairly obvious that there would be no extra charge. Anyone who has been to one of these RTCs would know that everything that the girl offers is included within the session price. She is not allowed to ask for anything more.

Also it is obvious that you can switch between girls in a two girl session otherwise what? You finish with one girl after 15 minutes, she leaves the room and then you carry on with the other girl for the rest of the 30 minute session? When both girls would have been paid for 30 minutes.

There might actually be a case for saying that the second girl should be included at a discount in a two girl session because one girl usually does most of the work, whilst the other twiddles her thumbs.

That's why so many girls are keen to suggest two girl sessions. It halves their workload.

Spent a couple of hours at Dietzenbach today. I had phoned up and was told that Tina and Ina were there. Milena wasn't, as she never is on weekends. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, so I decided to give it a go. I had planned on BBBJCIM with Ina (maybe with swallow if I came when the head of my cock was deep in her throat), then suck and fuck with Tina, then suck and fuck with Ina again or someone else (or maybe Tina again). I immediately spotted Tina. Ina was in a room. I sat down next to Tina and we spent a few minutes cuddling. I had to keep her off of my cock because I didn't want to come too quickly the first time. After a while, she asked if I wanted to go to a room with her. I said definitely, sometime today. I was waiting for Ina, which she suspected. She then said that if I wanted to go with Ina first I should sit somewhere else so that she could take another customer, which is fair enough I suppose. I decided to go to a room with her then, hence no real action on the couch.

The usual programme: she massages me, I massage her, I lick her to orgasm, BBBJ, fuck (first cowgirl then doggy). Good, as always.

Spotted Andrea when I came out. No sign of Ina. I had had her once before and remembered her as a bit aloof, but decided to give her a try. I like to avoid the AO girls-no reason to take an unnecessary risk-and knew that Andrea does anal. I let her suck me for a while on the couch then we went to a room. BBBJ, she massages me, I massage her, I lick her until she comes, BBBJ, fuck (first mish then doggy anal). A good experience. Also some DFK. (Tina does this as well but as she had just smoked a cigarette, I didn't want to.).

When I came out a spotted Ina. Long session of cuddling and BBBJ on couch, then up to a room. More BBBJ, including deep throat, some of it in 69, then she massages me, then I her, then I lick her until she comes, then we fucked in mish for quite a while. I then said I wanted some massage then BBBJCIM and she suggested reversing the order, which was a good idea. As usual, excellent.

All the girls let me lick their arseholes. Unfortunately, no-one licked mine, but I'm pretty sure only Milena does this.

Prices were 40 entry + 30 per session. In the old days, one paid up front and they wrote the girls' names on the card. Last time, I paid the girls directly but still the names (not sure why). This time, the Thekenfrau kept my card after the first session.

I didn't have much time and so spent no time in the sauna etc, but that is not why I go to Dietzenbach anyway.

Even with the 40 entry fee, still good value for money.

The photos are back with heart stickers on those of the AO girls, but no text such as "mache alles" like there used to be.

The AO girls come and go. Another reason for sticking with the others is that they seem to genuinely enjoy it. Otherwise, they wouldn't still be here after several years. All of their orgasms during DATY were real.

When I was a Dietz this week I noticed a girl I hadn't seen before. A slim, tall, girl with a 'tramp stamp' tattoo on her lower back and jet black hair, wearing expensive looking black suspenders and stockings. She wasn't stunningly beautiful but her face was attractive enough and her elegant looking body was giving me a hard on.

She looked a bit like another girl there called Dani, but younger looking, not having the same wrinkles and with better teeth.

I kept an eye on her for a while and then towards the end of the evening I sat on the couch next to her's and engaged her in conversation. She did not seem very enthusiastic and moaned about it being a long day and that she just could not wait to go home but there was still an hour to go. She seemed a little surprised when I suggested a session.

I joined her on the couch she was sitting on and she ran through the options. I steered her towards BBBJ and sex on the couch ohne gummi which she agreed to.

But then came the not so good bit. She lifted my towel to have a look and exclaimed with apparent shock that I was very big.

I had not cum that day and I had been itching to ram her for a while so I had a rock hard erection. But even so I am not super sized.

She immediately got out some gel and doused her pussy with it and also put some on my dick saying she needed to do this because of my size.

This was obviously going to lessen the sensation of my dick inside which I did not really approve of that but nevertheless I still wanted to ram her.

She gave a fairly OK blow job and big tits Gina was sitting within eye shot in the background which improved the turn on for me.

She then sat on the edge of the couch and invited me to come between her legs and fuck her. I ended up fucking her in a sort of crouching missionary position swinging from the hips with my feet on the floor whilst bearing my weight with my arms either side of her on the couch.

As expected the sensation was of my dick slipping and sliding too easily in and out of her oily pussy with next to no friction.

But I had the remedy. I found that by pulling my dick almost all the way out and then banging it back in that the tender tip of my dick jarred against her pussy lips on the way in and this caused a great sensation. It ended up providing enough stimulation.

It felt great to cum in her pussy and I held myself in for as long as possible to make sure that she soaked everything up. She asked "is my pussy sweet?" and I had to agree (at least it felt sweet to spray it from the inside).

After I withdrew she was in no hurry to rush to the shower to douche the spunk out of her pussy but asked me to sit beside her on the couch, to cuddle and relax for a bit.

She said that she had only been in the club 1 week and that before that she had been working at "F Ka Kah World" for some time. I was surprised that a girl who was good looking enough to work for a well known, large, 'proper' FKK like World would want to come to a small, shithole like Dietzenbach.

She explained that there were 150 girls working at World and so there was a lot of competition and so a lot of stress.

I imagine that at World guys are paying at least 50 euros for straight sex with a condom and extra money (perhaps another 50 euros) for each additional service thereafter. AO would be an extra special service costing the most.

Yet here she was at Dietz allowing guys to cum inside her for a mere 30 euros total.

I wondered if she had provided the AO service discreetly to special customers at World. It is officially not on the menu there. Well now she would be providing it as a staple service pretty much all the time at Dietz. Would she be able to make the adjustment?

Close to closing time I walked past here again sitting there on the couch and said Hello, She still did not look very happy despite having recently earned some money.

I have a feeling that she probably won't be working at Dietz very long.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1752412] She said that she had only been in the club 1 week and that before that she had been working at "F Ka Kah World" for some time. I was surprised that a girl who was good looking enough to work for a well known, large, 'proper' FKK like World would want to come to a small, shithole like Dietzenbach.

She explained that there were 150 girls working at World and so there was a lot of competition and so a lot of stress.[/QUOTE]150 girls at World. LOL.

Could fit when she adds the number of girls Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday together.

How do you know if girls are not doing AO, I would like to fuck that one, I am scared of STD, please if there is no more info on counter how you know?

Is facial / swallow or pussy outside included?

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1753262]How do you know if girls are not doing AO, I would like to fuck that one, I am scared of STD, please if there is no more info on counter how you know?
[/QUOTE]It was written a few pages back, pictures are back in the showcase, and if the girl provide AO service have a "heart" in her pic.

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1753262]
How do you know if girls are not doing AO, I would like to fuck that one, I am scared of STD, please if there is no more info on counter how you know?
[/QUOTE]As noted, the AO-girls have a heart on their picture. Non-AO are Milena (Polish, very thin, does rimming), Tina (Indonesian, very long hair), Ina (Romanian, frizzy hair, plumper than most at Dietzenbach), all highly recommended. Also Andrea: nothing to complain about, but I prefer the other three. Glasses. Does anal. Last time I was there, there was one more whom I didn't know.

Even if the girl does AO and / or has an STD, if you use a condom you should be OK, unless DATY, BBBJ etc are involved.

[QUOTE=Oxano1983;1753262]
Is facial / swallow or pussy outside included?[/QUOTE]Never asked about facial. Some will probably do it. Swallow? Ina did once: she does deep throat, so if you come at the right time she doesn't have a choice. I have only been with the non-AO girls, but they have never swallowed with me.

Not sure what you mean by pussy outside. You mean come on her pussy (after fucking her with a condom)? Probably possible, but ask.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1751330]The AO girls come and go. Another reason for sticking with the others is that they seem to genuinely enjoy it. Otherwise, they wouldn't still be here after several years. All of their orgasms during DATY were real.

I have only been with the non-AO girls, but they have never swallowed with me.[/QUOTE]Some might consider it a positive that some of the AO girls tend to come and go. You are likely to find new, fresh fuck meat every time you visit rather than the same old, tired, dog-eared women.

Talking of old and dog-eared, the non-AO girls tend to be a lot older, in their 30's or above, whereas most of the AO girls are in their 20's. Some being as young as 19 or 20.

With the large number of AO girls to choose from then you inevitably get more variety in looks. To my eyes, and the eyes of many others, some of the AO girls can be fairly attractive. Whereas I don't find the non-AO girls attractive at all.

Despite their reputation (Andrea being the exception) for providing a good service, I definitely would not do any of the non-AO girls not even if they offered AO, or even if they did it for free for that matter. Just my personal taste of course.

Also the AO girls don't force you to do it without a condom. They are perfectly happy to fuck and suck with you wearing one. Although you may have to show one or two of them how to put one on, LOL.

I don't know if any of the girls enjoy the sex. I do know they love the money. However I did go with two young ones recently and afterwards my dick was smothered with what appeared to be hot and sticky fluid. Also, from their wild cries they seemed to be really getting into the action.

One disappointment that I agree with Sven on is that the girls do not seem to offer rimming or swallowing. I have seen the AO girls, like Nadin and Roxanna, spitting into buckets after CIM and none have offered to rim my ass. They do lick the balls but that seems to be as far as it goes.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1754471].

Whereas I don't find the non-AO girls attractive at all.

[/QUOTE].

As you say, a matter of taste. I find Ina really attractive, and also Tina. Milena too thin for my taste and too small tits. Ina is pleasingly plump, whereas most there are thin. Again, a matter of taste, but go for Ina if you like T and A.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1754471].

Despite their reputation (Andrea being the exception) for providing a good service, I definitely would not do any of the non-AO girls not even if they offered AO, or even if they did it for free for that matter. Just my personal taste of course.

[/QUOTE].

Again, a matter of taste, but have received consistently good service from Ina, Tina and Milena.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1754471].

I don't know if any of the girls enjoy the sex.

[/QUOTE].

I'm pretty sure that Ina, Tina, and Milena do. I can usually spot faked enthusiasm.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1754471].

One disappointment that I agree with Sven on is that the girls do not seem to offer rimming or swallowing.

[/QUOTE].

Most don't, but Milena has always rimmed me. I don't know if she does it with everyone.

Ok. I am ready for my next big adventure! I am planning on going to Dietzenbach on the 27th (next week). Unless the law changes for the better I reckon this will be my last AO vacation before the new law next year. I will go to Dietz on the 27th then possibly La Luna on the 28th. Does anyone know how I can find out what girls will likely be there next week? I plan also for a two-girl duo (Possible Alice and Bianca.) Looking forward to trip!

Drove to FKK Dietzenbach after work today for an interlude with Tina. She is the Asian MILF from Indonesia that usually wears black stockings.

She is a sure bet for a good BBBJ / CIM. Never tried anything else with her as it is just to relaxing to let her do all the work.

This FKK is great for a no-frills inexpensive break. Sort of a local pit stop on the way home from work.

40 Euro entry and 30 Euro sessions that include CIM. The same experience in Oase would have cost 70 Euro entry and 100 Euro for the session.

Of course you don't get the eye candy in Dietzenbach, or the nice facilities. You do however get a good BBBJ / CIM, clean towels, a shower, cookies, boiled hot-dogs, bread and sparkling water. Other "good head" providers include Ina when not managing the place, and Milena who is the resident ass licker. Neither of these three allow BBFS so they have developed other skills that keep them occupied.

I usually stop at the Shell Station down the street on the way home to buy an ice-cream to enjoy while driving home and re-living the moment.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1763487]Drove to FKK Dietzenbach after work today for an interlude with Tina. She is the Asian MILF from Indonesia that usually wears black stockings.

She is a sure bet for a good BBBJ / CIM. Never tried anything else with her as it is just to relaxing to let her do all the work.
[/QUOTE]Yes, her BBBJ / CIM is good. But you can also lick her until she comes. She is also good at fucking.

Eye candy? A matter of taste. Although I prefer more tits and arse (at least at the level of Ina), I would be perfectly happy with a wife like Tina. I think Ina is beautiful.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1763487]Drove to FKK Dietzenbach after work today for an interlude with Tina. She is the Asian MILF from Indonesia that usually wears black stockings.[/QUOTE]Tina a MILF? The only Asian I know of there is short, dumpy, wears glasses, and is generally unattractive. I think we need a new acronym- MINF (Mother I'd Never Fuck).

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1764303]Tina a MILF? The only Asian I know of there is short, dumpy, wears glasses, and is generally unattractive. I think we need a new acronym- MINF (Mother I'd Never Fuck).[/QUOTE]I think Tina is the only Asian there. Short? Yes. Dumpy? No. Glasses? Yes. Generally unattractive? A matter of taste, but fine for me. How about MIHAFMT? Mother I have already fucked many times.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1764386]I think Tina is the only Asian there. Short? Yes. Dumpy? No. Glasses? Yes. Generally unattractive? A matter of taste, but fine for me. How about MIHAFMT? Mother I have already fucked many times.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes, one man's poison is another man's meat. Dine away!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1764497]As the saying goes, one man's poison is another man's meat. Dine away![/QUOTE]Good comments. My personal view of Dietzenbach is that it is convenient and cheap. As I mentioned, it's value is that at 30 Euros per session one does not need to spend a bag of money for basic service.

When I want something more interesting I go to Bernds Sauna near Cologne. If I need a pool and outdoor area there is the Oase FKK near Frankfurt. I guess it is a function of whether you are in the mood for an all day "resort" experience or a quick BBBJ on the way home from work.

If I did not live here and only visited for vacations or business trips, then I would likely go to Oase to unwind and enjoy the "wellness" facilities between sessions. That being said, I do not think I would come here on a mongering holiday, as for the same money I could go to the Philippines or Thailand. However, for business trips, I would make it a point to transit through Frankfurt and "stimulate the economy".

I had a great time at Dietz. Before I decided to go I RTFF and got directions. The best which I will copy and paste is from TheAfricanBoy some time ago. Thanks brother! As I got off the train station I walked and saw some of the discriptions he mentioned but when I passed the 5 star hotel (when you see it you will laugh) I knew I was on the right track. I was welcomed by a butt naked hostess and was instructed by the madam on the location. Paid and was given a key. It was the afternoon so the place was not booming and no AC so hot and muggy. Sat outside for a bit and a few girls smiled and said Hello,. Two I saw were very skinny but nice. I saw an oriental girl and went to talk to her. Decided to hit it and off we went. GFE and very sensual Tina was. Rested and drank water in the living room as I scoped out my next prey. A nice Romainian cuddled up beside me and started rubbing. Romainians have sorta a bad rep in other FKKs but this brunnete was really into me. Off we go and she starts BBBJ which was off the hook. Told her I'm ready and she asks condom or no? I guess some offer bare which was a surprise to me. I forgot to mention the madam everytime a monger would come out she would squirt you with a watergun. I thought that was cute. The girls rates are 30 eu a piece. Very cheap. Some food and they even passed out icecream twice. Below are the directions I mentioned above:

When you leave the station area turn left and follow disused tracks for about 50 meters. You will see a grass pathway in front of you. Take it and follow it to a small street passage type thing which will bring you onto max Planck street. Turn left for about 300 meters and pass Hotel Garni. When you get to office blocks turn right into a street between the buildings. Then turn leftbagain for about 100 meters. Look down one of th side roads and you will see a sign for Sauna. And there you are.

As these directions are right on the only way to make it better are with pics.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1765118]I guess it is a function of whether you are in the mood for an all day "resort" experience or a quick BBBJ on the way home from work.
If I did not live here and only visited for vacations or business trips, then I would likely go to Oase to unwind and enjoy the "wellness" facilities between sessions. That being said, I do not think I would come here on a mongering holiday, as for the same money I could go to the Philippines or Thailand. However, for business trips, I would make it a point to transit through Frankfurt and "stimulate the economy".[/QUOTE]You don't realize how lucky you are to live there. LOL! Nothing like that across the ocean in and. America, we have to satisfy ourselves with crumbs and you get cake any day.

Club I found much easier than I expected, by public transport to the last stop then a ten minute walk.

40 euros entrance. Almost no drinks. You have only water and coffee, meals of bread and hot dogs and some fresh fruits, that is all, have nothing to drink even with surcharge.

I like girls. Lineup over 20 girls, all kinds and for everyone, old, young, chubby, thin, black, white, blondie, readhead, glasses, whatever you want.

What I did not like was the lack of drinks and meals, or any other fun other than sex.

Also do not like the small rooms on the lower floor, which looks like a box with a bed, their area is not larger than 4 square meters. Almost no light, as if the candle only.

What I liked also is the large bar where you can talk with girls and negotiate the details of sex.

And what I liked most is the quality of sex. It seems that the club has a rule, 30 euros for a session without any extra charges. Girls, if they want they can offer more services but not charged, (so the most of the girls to get more attention offered something) so during my stay, almost half the girls offered the CIM, the three offered anal sex, two swallow.

I have two sessions, with one I have had great anal sex.

With other sex + CIM + swallow.

Total 100 euros (40 for entry + 30 +30) . Great deal.

Looking for girls at this club or others with large inner labie. Big pussy lips.

Thanks for your help guys.

Jimmy.

[QUOTE=JimmyVegas;1775061]Looking for girls at this club or others with large inner labie. Big pussy lips.

Thanks for your help guys.

Jimmy.[/QUOTE]27 of your total of 34 posts have been posts of this exact same question. If you haven't received an answer after all this time, maybe it's time to stop posting this question over all of the forums. And consider contributing something useful to the forum rather than posting this same question over and over.

Enough already!

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1764386]I think Tina is the only Asian there. Short? Yes. Dumpy? No. Glasses? Yes. Generally unattractive? A matter of taste, but fine for me. How about MIHAFMT? Mother I have already fucked many times.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with an Asian who is a 6 or even 5, but didn't even consider seasoning with this one. Along with her frumpy looks she has a real sad sack attitude.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;1765118]Good comments. My personal view of Dietzenbach is that it is convenient and cheap. As I mentioned, it's value is that at 30 Euros per session one does not need to spend a bag of money for basic service.

When I want something more interesting I go to Bernds Sauna near Cologne. If I need a pool and outdoor area there is the Oase FKK near Frankfurt. I guess it is a function of whether you are in the mood for an all day "resort" experience or a quick BBBJ on the way home from work.

If I did not live here and only visited for vacations or business trips, then I would likely go to Oase to unwind and enjoy the "wellness" facilities between sessions. That being said, I do not think I would come here on a mongering holiday, as for the same money I could go to the Philippines or Thailand. However, for business trips, I would make it a point to transit through Frankfurt and "stimulate the economy".[/QUOTE]I'm looking at a possible mid November visit. Is the Oase outdoor pool heated? Do the girls join in the pool?

Thanks for your time!

[QUOTE=Escort4Us;1778608]I'm looking at a possible mid November visit. Is the Oase outdoor pool heated? Do the girls join in the pool?

Thanks for your time![/QUOTE]Oase questions should be posed in the Oase thread, not the Dietzenbach thread. Yes, the Oase pool is heated. In mid-November, it will be fairly cold. The girls will not be going outside (except right outside the relax room to briefly talk on their cell phones to their mom and boyfriends).

The girls generally avoid the pool since they don't want to get their hair wet -- although with enough effort on your part, you could find a girl to join you in the pool. Anything is possible with enough money. The question is whether you want to waste your time finding that girl and whether you would be willing to waste that much money simply to have a girl accompany you into the pool.

I would respectfully submit that your money would be better spent otherwise, but alas, it is your money.

[QUOTE=Escort4Us;1778608]I'm looking at a possible mid November visit. Is the Oase outdoor pool heated? Do the girls join in the pool?

Thanks for your time![/QUOTE]Of course, but bring tools to break ice, to swim under, better to choose a club with indoor swimming pool. At Oase, only big jacuzzi inside.

[QUOTE=Escort4Us;1778608]I'm looking at a possible mid November visit. Is the Oase outdoor pool heated? Do the girls join in the pool?

Thanks for your time![/QUOTE]In a hot summer day of late August, I stayed in the swimming pool for more than one hour because the high temperature of that day was 34 degree. I did not see any girl around the swimming pool let alone joined me in the swimming pool. LOL.

[QUOTE=BestBeer;1773958]Club I found much easier than I expected, by public transport to the last stop then a ten minute walk.

40 euros entrance. Almost no drinks. You have only water and coffee, meals of bread and hot dogs and some fresh fruits, that is all, have nothing to drink even with surcharge.

I like girls. Lineup over 20 girls, all kinds and for everyone, old, young, chubby, thin, black, white, blondie, readhead, glasses, whatever you want.

What I did not like was the lack of drinks and meals, or any other fun other than sex.

Also do not like the small rooms on the lower floor, which looks like a box with a bed, their area is not larger than 4 square meters. Almost no light, as if the candle only.

What I liked also is the large bar where you can talk with girls and negotiate the details of sex.

And what I liked most is the quality of sex. It seems that the club has a rule, 30 euros for a session without any extra charges. Girls, if they want they can offer more services but not charged, (so the most of the girls to get more attention offered something) so during my stay, almost half the girls offered the CIM, the three offered anal sex, two swallow.

I have two sessions, with one I have had great anal sex.

With other sex + CIM + swallow.

Total 100 euros (40 for entry + 30 +30) . Great deal.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. I just have one question for you. You mentioned swallowing in your report. Did you ask the girl to swallow before CIM?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1778889]In a hot summer day of late August, I stayed in the swimming pool for more than one hour because the high temperature of that day was 34 degree. I did not see any girl around the swimming pool let alone joined me in the swimming pool. LOL.[/QUOTE]Really? Alone in the pool? Every hot day I was at Oase this year plenty of girls joined the guys in the pool, playing, swimming, enjoying. Girls were jumping into the pool five at the same time.

For sure that won't happen in November.

HB.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1778892]Thank you for your report. I just have one question for you. You mentioned swallowing in your report. Did you ask the girl to swallow before CIM?[/QUOTE]She can fake it. I had a girl in Oase I paid 100 euros for CIM but I'd already filled two condoms with other girls so I kind of faked it myself. She then went on to spit into a tissue though I knew she could have nothing substantial to spit out. She feared I would no pay the 100 euros because I hadn't come but I had no intention no to pay since she'd really tried hard.

[QUOTE=BestBeer;1773958]Almost no drinks. You have only water and coffee, [/QUOTE]There's a small post mix machine for Coke and either Fanta or Sprite, same dispenser as water.

HB.

Arrived Frankfurt early afternoon on the 26th of August, my original plan was to hit up Dietzenbach same day, but despite my Business class upgrade I did not sleep a wink on the flight over. I got to my hotel around 130 PM, and the clerk refused to budge on the 3 pm check in time. So I went to kill some time in a porn kino. Did get to watch a business man on his lunch break bang a working girl in the kino.

After checking into my hotel, took a nap, had dinner, then hit the sack. I woke up around 9 am on the 27th, had breakfast, killed some time and got to Dietzenbach at about 12:45 pm. After changing into my towel and having a "water" I watched the club for a bit. I saw Alice in the back riding some dude cowgirl style then a few minutes later she was lying down on the couch legs in the air, and the guy was pounding away. I got a little closer to see the action and a great view was to be had, like being on the set of a porn shoot!

Now I was horny as hell and as Alice went to wash up I saw Bianca. I remembered her from last April and how well she rode my cock, so I sat down next to her. As she finished her smoke, I began to gently caress her legs and that led to some DFK, once she finished her smoke some more DFK, then she moved on to an incredible BBBJ. Since I had not cum in almost 10 days I did not want to blow my load too soon, so when I felt like it was getting close, I told her "pussy licken". We swapped places on the couch and I moved in to some good ole fashioned DATY! She started to get into it and was pulling on the back of my hair. Soon I could not take it and had to start with sex. Pulled her a tad closer to the edge of the couch and slid my cock into her tight pussy, and started to pound away. Didn't last too too long and ended with a nice creampie on the couch. She did not want me to pull out and she yelled across the room for another girl to throw her some paper towels, as soon as I pulled out she put the towel over her pussy to keep the baby batter from running out.

After a rest for a bit, I decided on Alice again. She is a sweet girl, and although I visit only about every 6 months or so (it's a long ride from California) she always seems to remember me. After talking to her for a bit and some kissing on the couch, she proceeded with a BBBJ then cowgirl to completion. Creampie #2 delivered.

Took a break for a while, as I am approaching 50, and I can't fire off the rounds like I could when I was 25. So after a while I decided to try Anka, she seems fairly cute and also session right there on the couch. I asked her to go to a room but she said she preferred to fuck on the couch (funny as Anna said the same thing the next day).

Although I could not cum, still a good session. I guess because it was so dam hot in the club they may have had some effect that I could not recover and cum.

Next up was Lilly, a cute petite dark hair girl, I did convince her to go to a room and success, after the BBBJ, some cowgirl, doggie, a finally blew load #3 pounding her mish.

At only 30 euro a fuck I figured what the hell, went for one more and found Julia, I really seemed to click with her and we also went to a room and I was able to blow load #4 of the day with her riding me cowgirl. We went to one of the small rooms off the lounge, I layed down across the mattress so when she was riding me I could see my cock sliding in and out of her pussy in the mirror, that definitely helped me deliver the 4th creampie of the day. Figured I was spent for the day so I headed back to hotel for some beer and rest.

Went back to Dietzenbach the next day (28th). Arrived about 1130 or so and from the previous day I had spotted Nadine. She is absolutely beautiful (as long as you don't look at her teeth). For that reason I kept the kissing to a minimum. After the BBBJ and DATY, she jumped on top and rode me cowgirl to completion on the couch. I did ask her to go to a room but she did not want to.

Since I always enjoy fucking Alice I found her and signaled for her to join me on the couch. I picked one of the larger couches as its easier to fuck missionary with her lying down so I can pound away. However all the fucks from the day before and the short time till the next fuck, I could not deliver. That was a first with Alice. She seemed disappointed.

I remembered Anna from my April trip. She was sitting on the couch directly across from the Thekenfrau, and after some kissing and BBBJ (she did not want to go to room either) I fucked her right there on the first couch as you walk in. I reckon that's good advertising for those just entering the club. Lucky I was able to deliver her with a load of baby batter in her young pussy!

I wanted to try and get in one more, so I remembered how great Julia's pussy felt from the day before, so I found her. Off to a room, and I almost did not deliver, but was able to give her a nice doggie creampie.

I really enjoy the vibe of this club, there is a fair amount of public action to watch in the down time (there is nothing else to do here), and the girls while are not super stars like at Oase, they seem to try hard to deliver.

It's a shame the "mandatory condom" law takes effect on January 1 2016. I may try and squeeze in one more trip this year. We will see, I have a new boss who is a micromanaging control freak and thinks I should work 12 hours a day 6 days a week with no vacation the whole year.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1779003]Since I had not cum in almost 10 days I did not want to blow my load too soon, [/QUOTE]Wow Dude your ballen must have looked like this guys!

Great report, thanks.

Is it confirmed that mandatory condom law is coming into effect from Jan 1, 2016, as you stated? This applies to blow jobs as well? (Hence I assume also no DATY?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1779320]Great report, thanks.

Is it confirmed that mandatory condom law is coming into effect from Jan 1, 2016, as you stated? This applies to blow jobs as well? (Hence I assume also no DATY?[/QUOTE]IMHO, if this law applies to blow job, all the FKK Clubs in Hessen area will go out of business because all the punters can get CBJ in RLD of Frankfurt without entry fees.

You can get BBBJ and BBFS right now in the RLD and FKK clubs are not out of business.

We will see if and to what level the law will be introduced.

HB.

"Now I was horny as hell and as Alice went to wash up I saw Bianca. I remembered her from last April and how well she rode my cock, so I sat down next to her. ".

Is this the thin girl with long legs and long dark hair, and a small rack?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1779320]
Is it confirmed that mandatory condom law is coming into effect from Jan 1, 2016, as you stated? This applies to blow jobs as well? (Hence I assume also no DATY?[/QUOTE]I'm not into AO myself with working girls, so I really don't care. However, let's wait and see what happens.

I don't think it will have any effect other than it won't be possible to advertize AO. Also (and this is the main intent), no prostitute could have AO as terms of her contract, be pressured into doing it etc. But I'm sure that there will be girls who offer it, perhaps for an extra fee, just like at massage places sometimes BJ or sex is possible but not advertized. In both cases, it's probably not a good idea to discuss it too much on the forums, since law enforcement might actually read them. Anyone who wants this can ask the girl and she can say yes or no. Think of it this way: If you meet a girl in a bar, say, you can decide to have AO if you both want it. It's your decision. Same here, or same regarding BJ or sex in a massage place. The only thing is that it can't be offered as part of the official service.

I don't think that the law will be enforced in terms of checking what goes on behind closed doors, but it probably will be regarding advertizing.

In how many countries is prostitution itself illegal but nevertheless a thriving business? Same same but different.

Does anybody call this FKK club to check if a specific girl is working for that day? Please share your experience. I have been in this club only once and I have little knowledge about this club.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1780368]Does anybody call this FKK club to check if a specific girl is working for that day? Please share your experience. I have been in this club only once and I have little knowledge about this club.[/QUOTE]Yes. I call & ask if my regulars are working.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1778892]Thank you for your report. I just have one question for you. You mentioned swallowing in your report. Did you ask the girl to swallow before CIM?[/QUOTE]Actually I did not ask her. Before the sex we talked a long time at the bar. She mentioned that it would be happy to do that. I said that I would prefer cum sprayed in her face, but she said she does not like to spread because after must wash her face?? Instead she said that prefers cum directly in the mouth to swallow. She do great blowjob with a lot saliva, and swallow every drop, her name is Ina chubby girl with beautiful breasts.

[QUOTE=BestBeer;1780670]Actually I did not ask her. Before the sex we talked a long time at the bar. She mentioned that it would be happy to do that. I said that I would prefer cum sprayed in her face, but she said she does not like to spread because after must wash her face?? Instead she said that prefers cum directly in the mouth to swallow. She do great blowjob with a lot saliva, and swallow every drop, her name is Ina chubby girl with beautiful breasts.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I assume that your had conversation with Ina in English. You paid Ina 30 euros after sex and Ina did not ask for tip.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1780440]Yes. I call & ask if my regulars are working.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I assume that you spoke English when you called. The receptionist answered your question in English.

[QUOTE=BestBeer;1780670]She do great blowjob with a lot saliva, and swallow every drop, her name is Ina chubby girl with beautiful breasts.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind Ina does tekefrau (receptionists) duty most of days now. She is available for session may be only one or two days a week.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1780758]Thank you for your reply. I assume that you spoke English when you called. The receptionist answered your question in English.[/QUOTE]Ina is the only receptionist that speaks any decent English. Other receptionists might hand the phone of one of the girls who speak English (if they are close by the reception desk).

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1780758]Thank you for your reply. I assume that you spoke English when you called. The receptionist answered your question in English.[/QUOTE]The German ladies who work the reception can say yes or no if I ask a simple question like is Jane doe working? If Ina answers then I can ask more specific questions. Even Barbara at Venus understands enough to answer a simple question.

I have never been to an AO club so was curious and wanted to just watch the public action so headed to FKK Dietzenbach. 30 km drive from my hotel, arrived at 6:30 pm, the car park was full, the club looks dodgy with no proper sign that you see in the big clubs. It took them a while to open the door, finally an old German lady open the door and started to tell me that I needed a card to get in! WTF, I politely asked her to let me in because I drove all the way from Frankfurt, but she wasn't showing any sign of letting me in, in the meantime a German guy arrived and he was let in without question, I pointed out to her she just let the guy in, she pretended that she knows no English and told me Dotch, I was really angry at her and told her to dotch her ass and get fucked bloody racist! Not sure if she understood but she slammed the door at me.

Does this club only allow white folks? I think to save effort and time we should have a white list FKK clubs, so non-white falks like me don't have to bother with these clubs, here is my list from my experience:

-Golden times.

-The living room.

-Dietzenbach.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1780757]Thank you for your reply. I assume that your had conversation with Ina in English. You paid Ina 30 euros after sex and Ina did not ask for tip.[/QUOTE]Yes that is correct. Ina speak english very good (excellent). I paid 30 Euros after sex and she did not ask for tip.

But as far as I understand, it is something like. The club rule; all prices are fixed to €30, and no extra charge.

[QUOTE=Jblack;1781397]I have never been to an AO club so was curious and wanted to just watch the public action so headed to FKK Dietzenbach. 30 km drive from my hotel, arrived at 6:30 pm, the car park was full, the club looks dodgy with no proper sign that you see in the big clubs. It took them a while to open the door, finally an old German lady open the door and started to tell me that I needed a card to get in! WTF, I politely asked her to let me in because I drove all the way from Frankfurt, but she wasn't showing any sign of letting me in, in the meantime a German guy arrived and he was let in without question, I pointed out to her she just let the guy in, she pretended that she knows no English and told me Dotch, I was really angry at her and told her to dotch her ass and get fucked bloody racist! Not sure if she understood but she slammed the door at me.

Does this club only allow white folks? I think to save effort and time we should have a white list FKK clubs, so non-white falks like me don't have to bother with these clubs, here is my list from my experience:

-Golden times.

-The living room.

-Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]Wow sorry to hear that. Same thing happen to me at FKK Arabella a couple years back, I was mistaken for "Turkish". Refused to let me in at Arabella. I have never had a problem at Dietzenbach. Always made very welcome. And good times with the girls!

May I ask what your nationality is? I was just at Dietzenbach at the end of August, so unless there is a change in policy, they welcome all!

[QUOTE=Jblack;1781397]I have never been to an AO club so was curious and wanted to just watch the public action so headed to FKK Dietzenbach. 30 km drive from my hotel, arrived at 6:30 pm, the car park was full, the club looks dodgy with no proper sign that you see in the big clubs. It took them a while to open the door, finally an old German lady open the door and started to tell me that I needed a card to get in! WTF, I politely asked her to let me in because I drove all the way from Frankfurt, but she wasn't showing any sign of letting me in, in the meantime a German guy arrived and he was let in without question, I pointed out to her she just let the guy in, she pretended that she knows no English and told me Dotch, I was really angry at her and told her to dotch her ass and get fucked bloody racist! Not sure if she understood but she slammed the door at me.

Does this club only allow white folks? I think to save effort and time we should have a white list FKK clubs, so non-white falks like me don't have to bother with these clubs, here is my list from my experience:

-Golden times.

-The living room.

-Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]I have seen all kinds of people in this club so not sure what the problem is. Maybe you showed up with a chip on your shoulder looking like you came straight out of Compton? I'm not German or white & the German lady working the reception has been very nice to me. Maybe the both of you are a little racist.

I believe she meant Deutsch as in speak German. Probably couldn't understand you arguing your point in English. I'm not saying you deserved it, but you obviously read past info about GT & LR so you shouldn't be surprised. There's plenty of clubs to choose from.

[QUOTE=Jblack;1781397]I have never been to an AO club so was curious and wanted to just watch the public action so headed to FKK Dietzenbach. It took them a while to open the door, finally an old German lady open the door and started to tell me that I needed a card to get in! I pointed out to her she just let the guy in, she pretended that she knows no English and told me Dotch, I was really angry at her and told her to dotch her ass and get fucked bloody racist! Not sure if she understood but she slammed the door at me.
[/QUOTE]If someone had a moniker like J English then I would half expect them to have a little chip on their shoulder about being English, but maybe I am being unfair.

Claudia, can actually speak and understand some basic English for simple one sentence communication. But she like many Germans is not very confident in using the language. Whenever she is on duty I normally made a point of having some brief exchanges with her as she spends the whole day busying herself behind the reception counter and no one really talks to her. I found her quiet, a little shy, considerate, pleasant to deal with and very tolerant. She more or less lets the girls and the customers get on with doing what they are doing with next to no interference from her. I once saw a customer literally nailing one of the girls to the carpet right underneath the reception desk. Other customers actually had to step over the bodies to make their way into the club but Claudia just turned a blind eye and got on with her work.

Another point is that the girls don't get paid to put on a show for those customers who decide to come only to watch. As far as I am aware they get nothing from the 40 euro door fee and only make money when they actually go with a customer. So anyone who just goes to watch the girls with the customers and has no intention of actually going with the girls himself is effectively getting the girls to perform for free and they obviously won't appreciate this.

I'm coming from Baden Baden on the 23-Dec on my way to Berlin.

Wanted to do a one-night stop-over in Frankfurt to visit Dietzenbach.

Little confused about transportation.

Dietzenbach station seems to be the stop you want. And then taxi or walk to the club.

Few questions if you don't beat me up for asking:

1) Can I book directly from Baden-Baden to Dietzenbach station or will I need to go to Frankfurt first then make my way to another station to reach DS?

2) Should I just go to station and book that day or will it be sig. Cheaper to do it in advance online? Seems to be about 50 e to make the trip.

3) For one night would I be better off staying close to the club in a hotel or finding one in Frankfurt? Any suggestions? (around 100 euro).

Planning on staying at the club till 11 pm or so. Then (would like to) make way to Frankfurt and looking for some bar / DJ place / some grub.

4) Club hours seem to be 10 am. Midnight, if I leave the club late will there be any problems getting back to Frankfurt?

Looking at maps it seems the area around the club is pretty industrial.

[QUOTE=MonkeyGin;1784023]

1) Can I book directly from Baden-Baden to Dietzenbach station or will I need to go to Frankfurt first then make my way to another station to reach DS?

2) Should I just go to station and book that day or will it be sig. Cheaper to do it in advance online? Seems to be about 50 e to make the trip.

[/QUOTE]1) check here: [URL]http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/index.shtml[/URL].

2) you can go directly to the station and make your ticket (one way or return trip) at the automatic ticket machine.

[QUOTE=MonkeyGin;1784023]
Dietzenbach station seems to be the stop you want. And then taxi or walk to the club.

Few questions if you don't beat me up for asking:

1) Can I book directly from Baden-Baden to Dietzenbach station or will I need to go to Frankfurt first then make my way to another station to reach DS?

2) Should I just go to station and book that day or will it be sig. Cheaper to do it in advance online? Seems to be about 50 e to make the trip.

3) For one night would I be better off staying close to the club in a hotel or finding one in Frankfurt? Any suggestions? (around 100 euro).

Planning on staying at the club till 11 pm or so. Then (would like to) make way to Frankfurt and looking for some bar / DJ place / some grub.

4) Club hours seem to be 10 am. Midnight, if I leave the club late will there be any problems getting back to Frankfurt?

Looking at maps it seems the area around the club is pretty industrial.[/QUOTE]AFAIK, the day ticket of S2 is 8. 85 euros and there is no taxi at the Dietzenbach station. I don't know how you come up with 50 euros to make the trip.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1784391]AFAIK, the day ticket of S2 is 8. 85 euros and there is no taxi at the Dietzenbach station. I don't know how you come up with 50 euros to make the trip.[/QUOTE]Actually, according to [URL]www.db.de[/URL], a saver ticket from Baden-Baden to Frankfurt hbf on IC train; connecting to S2 can be as low as 39 Euros.
It's right that there probably will not be a taxi waiting at the Dietzenbach station, but on the way back, the club will call for a taxi for you if needed.

I have two phone numbers for this club. One is 6074 47360 and the other is 6074 824134. Which phone number is correct?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1786368]I have two phone numbers for this club. One is 6074 47360 and the other is 6074 824134. Which phone number is correct?[/QUOTE]06074/824134 is the correct number.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1786546]06074/824134 is the correct number.
[/QUOTE]At least in the past, one got you the Thekenfrau and one got a pre-recorded general-info message.

[QUOTE=MonkeyGin;1784023]3) For one night would I be better off staying close to the club in a hotel or finding one in Frankfurt? Any suggestions? (around 100 euro).

4) Club hours seem to be 10 am. Midnight, if I leave the club late will there be any problems getting back to Frankfurt?[/QUOTE]Last call for a final romp in a room is 11:00-11:15. Maybe 11:30 if its busy. If its dead, final call around 10:30 pm.

Hotels Sonnefhof & Garni. About 15-20 min walk or 2 min taxi ride.

Recently I had opportunity to Visit FKK Dietzenbach. Its easy to go by train+ walk. I had no problem finding place.

One thing I liked is its better to go to this club than visiting RLD. No need to climb stairs of many buildings and negotiate and hope for decent service. At Dietzenbach price is fixed and facility is little better than RLD.

We should not expect anythng better at these prices.

I was at this club on Friday the 23 Oct. I arrived at just before noon and was under the impression that the entrance fee would be waived as I had read it somewhere. This is no longer the case. I was told that everything was on the menu for a flat rate of $30.00 Euro with a 40 Euro entrance fee. Awesome. The club is on the small size and does not have any of the features that the super clubs do. The entrance fee is indicative of it accordingly.

I saw mostly sevens there and a couple of eights. All told I think there about 20 girls there. I was there for several hours and must not have seen anyone under sixty there for the duration. This is a hangout for fat old guys. For the time I was there I was reminded of the Dusseldorf clubs where the girls do not solicit as no girl approached me during the duration I was there. It makes for a peaceful existence to a point. Watching action on the sofa and the TV makes one call to action. My first attempt with girl number one to carry a conversation went nowhere as I could not understand a word. I do not think she was speaking Deutsche and it definitely was not English. Furthermore nothing in her body language indicated she was inviting me to carry on. Oh well next. It seems that the procedure is that the girl of interest sits on a love seat and one shows interest by sliding right next to her. I tried to make conversation with a 8 and instead of asking me to sit down I got a major cold shoulder. This was not looking good. I was there for over two hours and going nowhere fast. Then walks in this girl from Romania with glasses. I am sucker for glasses with a nice tush to match. I started a conversation with her and told her how I was about to call it day before she appeared. One thing leads to another and the next thing I know is her giving me one of the most memorable BBBJ in recent history. I mean one of the best. No doubt about it. She then asked if I want OA. God was I tempted. I settled for doggy and missionary to completion. I give tips to those who earn it and this girl was at the top of the list in personalty, looks and talent. I know I will be back again.

I am trying to decide if this is a good club to go to. Maybe half day here and half day in FKK Sharks?

I am young (usually youngest in FKK when I go) and don't want to be out of place and don't want to be with ladies older than me. Seems a good value at 30 euros each session and I mainly want to go for AO experience.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792472]I am trying to decide if this is a good club to go to. Maybe half day here and half day in FKK Sharks?

I am young (usually youngest in FKK when I go) and don't want to be out of place and don't want to be with ladies older than me. Seems a good value at 30 euros each session and I mainly want to go for AO experience.[/QUOTE]If you're new splitting the day between these two clubs will help you to decide which kind of club is for you. The women at Dietzenbach are going to be generally a bit older than those at Sharks, and probably not quite as attractive. BUT the women at Dietzenbach will be young enough and good looking enough, and the level of service will be much higher. I wouldn't worry about being the youngest guy at Dietzenbach. That will play to your advantage as, again in general, the girls will prefer to go with you.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1792545]If you're new splitting the day between these two clubs will help you to decide which kind of club is for you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?

[QUOTE=Voyager1;1792425]I arrived at just before noon and was under the impression that the entrance fee would be waived as I had read it somewhere.[/QUOTE]This might have been a special offer at some time, but it has never been the rule and never been the case for any appreciable length of time.

[QUOTE=Voyager1;1792425]I know I will be back again.[/QUOTE]Not sure why your first attempts were rebuffed, but it looks like it all came out fine (pun, as always, intended) in the end.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792619]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?[/QUOTE]No, there is no testing of the customers. Some clubs do test the girls on an intermittent basis, but I do not know if Dietzenbach does. Regardless, given that each girl has multiple customers per day, obviously it is "play at your won risk" regardless of whether there is any testing on the girls' side.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792619]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?[/QUOTE]Well, there's no posted policy about testing and so on. I imagine there is probably some, but I think you should make your decisions as if there is none. And wearing a condom is not forbidden, it's an option.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792619]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?[/QUOTE]The girls are tested every two weeks.

HB.

[QUOTE=SneraDog;1792884]No, there is no testing of the customers.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I worded my question wrong. I was asking about customers.

Looks like I will be going to split Saturday with Dietzenbach and Sharks. Planning 11-5 at Dietzenbach and 5-close at Sharks. Unless you don't think the lineup will be good. Mainly I want to go here to try a new experience of AO club. Friday I will be at Oase and it is wrong direction so Saturday splitting Sharks is my only option.

Are the food and drinks OK in the past few weeks?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1793370]Are the food and drinks OK in the past few weeks?[/QUOTE]Frankfurters with mustard and some bread, some kind of soup, some cookies. Softs from the cheap plastic postmix machine, water, plain coffee. Has been like that for ages.

HB.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792619]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?[/QUOTE]With AO sex, you play your life, if man just before you has HIV, you can get it. Does it worth? AO sex is more safe with a not WG.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1793382]With AO sex, you play your life, if man just before you has HIV, you can get it. Does it worth? AO sex is more safe with a not WG.[/QUOTE]We are all aware of the risks, so no advise is needed here. We practice AO because we love it. I tried covered sex a few weeks ago and it sucked.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1793489]We are all aware of the risks, so no advise is needed here. We practice AO because we love it. I tried covered sex a few weeks ago and it sucked.[/QUOTE]And what about poor romanian or bulgarian girls? Do they like to take so much risks? When some have children and all life to enjoy. I look forward AO sex will be forbidden, because it's not respectful for these girls who are obliged to accept to work in these clubs, because not pretty enough to get enough business in normal club. I m sad for 2 girls who return to work in FKK and I m very sad for AO girls obliged to take so much risks to food children.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1793489]We are all aware of the risks, so no advise is needed here. We practice AO because we love it. I tried covered sex a few weeks ago and it sucked.[/QUOTE]The Original Poster (OP) was evidently not aware of the risks because the OP was specifically asking about the risks of AO. So, it would seem that we are not ALL aware of the risks, at least in so far as the OP was concerned.

Sure, this post would have been better placed in the safe sex thread, but the OP's original post clearly indicated that he was indeed not aware of the risks and was seeking additional information along these lines.

I can't believe I just defended a Siroija post. I'll try to not make a habit of it.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1793382]With AO sex, you play your life, if man just before you has HIV, you can get it. Does it worth? AO sex is more safe with a not WG.[/QUOTE]Can you give me a statistic supporting your claim? Precisely: how many people have got AIDS in the last few years in the West, by just having uncovered sex with a WG?

And moreover, in the very unlikely event that you would get it, (by f. A drug addicted gay man from Nigeria, for instance,) your life is not at risk. Treatment works.

Scaremongering people is not useful. Risks of AO are more destroying marriages, when you catch a gonorrhea and pass it on to your wife. If I had a regular partner, I would not go AO for that reason, but that's me, and I am not lecturing anyone here.

We are all big boys here, and we know what we like, and the risks we take. I have far more risks of getting hurt driving the motorbahn to the club than catching AIDS there. Still, I drive.

If someone needs more advice on STD, I don't think this forum is the right place.

Cheers, and back to club reports and info.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1793665]Can you give me a statistic supporting your claim? Precisely: how many people have got AIDS in the last few years in the West, by just having uncovered sex with a WG?

And moreover, in the very unlikely event that you would get it, (by f. A drug addicted gay man from Nigeria, for instance,) your life is not at risk. Treatment works.

Scaremongering people is not useful. Risks of AO are more destroying marriages, when you catch a gonorrhea and pass it on to your wife. If I had a regular partner, I would not go AO for that reason, but that's me, and I am not lecturing anyone here.

We are all big boys here, and we know what we like, and the risks we take. I have far more risks of getting hurt driving the motorbahn to the club than catching AIDS there. Still, I drive.

If someone needs more advice on STD, I don't think this forum is the right place.

Cheers, and back to club reports and info.[/QUOTE]I m not doctor, is there a doctor among members? Just ask yours about risks you take when fucking a girl without condom after so many others, and if you are married or have a girlfriend and fuck her after fucking an AO girl, then you don't respect your wife.

Of course, I can crash when I m sometimes over 300 km / h, 341 to challenge when I will be lucky to play with my fav girl, 911 turbo, but I prefer than dying from diseases from HIV, each one his risks and life.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1793665]Can you give me a statistic supporting your claim? Precisely: how many people have got AIDS in the last few years in the West, by just having uncovered sex with a WG?

And moreover, in the very unlikely event that you would get it, (by f. A drug addicted gay man from Nigeria, for instance,) your life is not at risk. Treatment works.

Scaremongering people is not useful. Risks of AO are more destroying marriages, when you catch a gonorrhea and pass it on to your wife. If I had a regular partner, I would not go AO for that reason, but that's me, and I am not lecturing anyone here.

We are all big boys here, and we know what we like, and the risks we take. I have far more risks of getting hurt driving the motorbahn to the club than catching AIDS there. Still, I drive.

If someone needs more advice on STD, I don't think this forum is the right place.

Cheers, and back to club reports and info.[/QUOTE]I wholeheartedly agree with you that this thread is not the best place for this information, so I would ask you then why you post about this topic here?

You asked for statistics in the West. CDC estimates that 1,218,400 persons aged 13 years and older are living with HIV infection, including 156,300 (12.8%) who are unaware of their infection. See [URL]http://goo.gl/SwOx6.[/URL] More data here: [URL]http://goo.gl/MLjClf[/URL] and here: [URL]http://goo.gl/HM4MjV.[/URL].

I don't know why you are focused on HIV / AIDS and don't ask about Herpes. Both are uncurable (albeit treatable). Simply because treatments work for these diseases does not make them non-issues for people. The medications can have serious side effects and the medications can be quite costly (often incredibly so without adequate decent health insurance). Contracting either one of these puts you at higher risks for other medical problems. On top of that, if you find yourself having to undergo treatment for leukemia or even other diseases while having one of these sexually-transmitted diseases, then you're really fucked due to the side effects and problems you will experience during your cancer treatment. Apparently, antivirals either can't be taken or don't work during certain cancer treatments and some of the treatments cause these viruses to flare up. I've read about some dude whose dick almost fell off during his cancer treatment due to having herpes during the treatment.

Fact of the matter is that there are no good statistics available that provide a good indicator of how high the risk is when one takes when has AO sex in FKK. Part of this lack of data is that it considered unethical to perform controlled studies on human beings where a group of human beings without an STD are forced to have sex with someone who has an STD and then measure how many people got infected afterward. Because of this limitation, the data collected is limited to after-the-fact survey data and such methods are plagued with a variety of proof problems.

There is no disputing that there is some risk because most people who have contracted STDs did so through, guess what, yes, that's right, unprotected sex. How big is the risk? Nobody seems to have any good estimates of that. So many variables at play.

You say that everyone here are big boys and we all know the risks they take. So, then I would ask you why the Original Poster was seeking answers to these very questions about what the level of risk was. Are you suggesting that the Original Poster was being disingenuous about his ignorance on this topic?

You say that scaremongering is not the answer. Burying one's head in the sand and pretending there is no risk is not the solution either. Let's at least try to be honest with our fellow hobbyists.

I am not trying to convince folks one way or the other. Go do whatever pleases you -- I don't care. Just trying to add some balance to the discussion.

Some people have posted that they have been turned away from this club. I don't want to waste time going here if not 100% chance getting in.

Why are some turned away?

Is opening time 10 AM or 11 AM?

Is Saturday an okay lineup? I am planning to go here from opening time until maybe 4 or 5 PM. Then head to Sharks for the evening.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1793645]And what about poor romanian or bulgarian girls? Do they like to take so much risks? When some have children and all life to enjoy. I look forward AO sex will be forbidden, because it's not respectful for these girls who are obliged to accept to work in these clubs, because not pretty enough to get enough business in normal club. I m sad for 2 girls who return to work in FKK and I m very sad for AO girls obliged to take so much risks to food children.[/QUOTE]Could you stop trolling all over the board, spamming in each thread? This is the thread about FKK Dietzenbach, go discuss the risk of BBFS in the appropriate thread.

If you feel so sorry for all those girls, stay home and don't support the industry.

HB.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1793645]And what about poor romanian or bulgarian girls? Do they like to take so much risks? [/QUOTE]I can't say if they like or not. I tried FKK Dietzenbach and almost all RTC in NRW, I'm always fucked with condom because I don't go in this clubs for AO but for cheap price, CIM and anal included and good ambience.

What I can say is that some girls seems unhappy and disappointed when I ask for condom and try to insist for have AO sex with me, some of them were so pushy (like Simone a bulgarian blonde here in Dietzenbach).

I don't know why they were pushy and ask for AO sex and honestly I do not care but seems they don't seems worried about AO sex.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1793861]Some people have posted that they have been turned away from this club. I don't want to waste time going here if not 100% chance getting in.

Why are some turned away?

Is opening time 10 AM or 11 AM?

Is Saturday an okay lineup? I am planning to go here from opening time until maybe 4 or 5 PM. Then head to Sharks for the evening.[/QUOTE](1) I don't think that they will turn a customer away. You can find the phone number of this club in this thread. You may call this club before you go, if you have any doubt.

(2) This club is opened at 10 AM.

(3) There were 17 girls in this club last Saturday afternoon.

There were 20+ girls at Dietzenbach today.

HB.

I was in Dietzenbach for a very short time (near closing time) and could see that the picture of girls working at that day was on the reception disk, but couldn't see any indication of which services each girl provide.

If I remember correctly, in some reports I have read that the services is also indicated. Have they omitted that or was it just me that couldn't find the signs?

Thanks. I will plan to arrive at 10 AM Saturday. Maybe stay until 5 PM. Is the lineup good enough then or better to wait?

I will be going to Sharks for the evening. I am limited to a short 3 days to get all my FKK clubs in!

[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1794178]
If I remember correctly, in some reports I have read that the services is also indicated. Have they omitted that or was it just me that couldn't find the signs?[/QUOTE]Been there in July, and I saw a pics with a little heart that is mean the girls offer AO sex, but they don't have a signature: Spezialität schlucken, Spezialität anal or ich mache alles like other RTC in NRW.

I read that now the girls offering anal have it written on their sedcard.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1794411]I read that now the girls offering anal have it written on their sedcard.

HB.[/QUOTE]Good news for me, thanks!

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1794043]What I can say is that some girls seems unhappy and disappointed when I ask for condom and try to insist for have AO sex with me, some of them were so pushy (like Simone a bulgarian blonde here in Dietzenbach).
I don't know why they were pushy and ask for AO sex and honestly I do not care but seems they don't seems worried about AO sex.[/QUOTE]I would even go as far as saying that some girls won't let you fuck them with a condom as it happened to me once. She was new and maybe didn't even know how to use a condom.

See original report here: [POST]1591714[/POST].

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1794043]I can't say if they like or not. I tried FKK Dietzenbach and almost all RTC in NRW, I'm always fucked with condom because I don't go in this clubs for AO but for cheap price, CIM and anal included and good ambience.

What I can say is that some girls seems unhappy and disappointed when I ask for condom and try to insist for have AO sex with me, some of them were so pushy (like Simone a bulgarian blonde here in Dietzenbach).

I don't know why they were pushy and ask for AO sex and honestly I do not care but seems they don't seems worried about AO sex.[/QUOTE]Never been to Dietzenbach, but I often see ausfahrt, because on my speed track between Frankfurt and Darmstadt. I only visited club Angelique in Viersen when I discovered FKK, I even didn t know FRA FKK at this time. Arrived on a Sunday at noon, 6 non attractive girls sitting, smiling at me, we were 2 men, I felt bad, only drinking and eating cakes. Then arrived, small, quite pretty brunette Maya, desk woman explained me extra 30 for AO. Maya was really kissing and very sweet in room, with excellent BBBJ, so I closed my eyes and later I felt her coming on me with her wet vagina around me, so I pushed her away and she fell out of the bed on shoulders and head. I apologized and she said me: it s only 30 € more, I answered I don t want to die, even she swore me she was controlled, but what about the man just before me, or the day before? Many girls take so much risks for life for extra money they need or because they know men have fantasy to cum in their belly and will return to give her again money. Just wish to these girls to be lucky about HIV. Don t die from herpes or some other sexual disease. Nevertheless, we finished excellent GFE room with condom with Maya, but never returned to see her, even high level services.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1792619]Thank you for advice. This being an AO club. Is there any testing to ensure safety or play at your own risk?[/QUOTE]Most of the current AO girls have been working there for many months if not years servicing multiple customers per day bareback many of whom have never been tested for anything in their lives. Thekefrau told me whether they test the girls or not makes little difference as they don't test the guys. So pretty pointless in her view.

The girls have swabs taken from their vaginas if they happen to be around at the time that the doctor is there. However they only work some days a week and are often on holiday so may not get tested for a long time.

Also although they test for things like gonorrhea I have been told that they do not test for the 'big one'. I learned this separately from two German regulars who have been going there for years and have no reason to mislead.

There used to be testing for every major STD carried out by a visiting doctor which was arranged by the local authorities but the authorities stopped insisting on these tests years ago. Now the clubs that do any testing do so on a voluntary basis and so can choose what they test for. Why don't they test for the big one? Well, maybe these girls or the management don't really want to find out the truly bad news.

If a customer ever claimed that they got the 'big one' from this club then this is not provable, even if several girls are subsequently shown to have it, as the customer most probably had other exposures elsewhere. The customer would have to go through the trouble of taking out a lawsuit which is highly unlikely as most guys don't test anyway and as said nothing is provable.

Unlike other STD's testing for the big one represents a bit of a problem. With most other STD's the club could ask for the girl not to work for a while (take a holiday) until it clears up. Even herps is no problem. She would just be told not to work when there is an outbreak (which of course they always observe, LOL).

However the club would break the law if they knowingly allowed a 'positive' girl to work. But these girls have families to support so this could test the resolve of the other girls to continue providing AO if they knew that a positive test would mean no work. If only a few girls provided AO this would be disastrous for a club as it depends upon this service to attract customers who, given the general unattractiveness of the girls, would have no real reason to visit otherwise.

So better not to know. Caveat emptor.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1794411]I read that now the girls offering anal have it written on their sedcard.

HB.[/QUOTE]And by "sedcard" you mean the pictures? There website doesn't have any details for the girls or services.

[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1794847]And by "sedcard" you mean the pictures? There website doesn't have any details for the girls or services.[/QUOTE]Yes. The website hasn't been updated for ages.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1794855]Yes. The website hasn't been updated for ages.

HB.[/QUOTE]To clarify. I walk into club. I will see "sedcard" for girls and this is how I know what they offer? Or just ask the girl directly?

I am planning Friday daytime here and Mainhattan in the evening. Maybe Sharks instead of Mainhattan. But Sharks will be Sunday!

[QUOTE=Global1810;1797596]To clarify. I walk into club. I will see "sedcard" for girls and this is how I know what they offer? Or just ask the girl directly?
[/QUOTE]The only service offering indicated on the pictures was anal. No heart sign for AO or any other service indication.

So you may better ask the girls directly.

Andrea, Ro.

Milena, Pl.

Tina, Ind.

Ina, Ro.

These should be the only girls NOT doing BBFS.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1798284]Andrea, Ro.

Milena, Pl.

Tina, Ind.

Ina, Ro.

These should be the only girls NOT doing BBFS.

HB.[/QUOTE]Awesome. Thanks for the help HB!

I will post review after Friday's visit.

S2 to Dietzenbach, as always not running on time. A slow 15 minute walk. Arrived a bit after 11. About 12 cars in lot and as I was undressing a number of buzzer rings. Counted the pics when left around 3 PM and there was 22 including Nadin who had been absent from German board listings lately.

First girl, Sonja with long very wavy black hair, tattoos on calf and lower back, A tits. DFK on couch and then BJ. Later to room, long BJ there and to mission and wilted after a bit, another BJ and her CG to the finish. She used a bathroom there for a minute or two and we left. Another shower.

An hour or so later sat with Sara with flower tattoo on upper chest area. Kissing, LFK, and blowing on couch. To room and more blowing, mission wilted after a bit more blowing and more mission. Did not finish but not had enough.

Finally some later sat with Elena, some writing tattoo on upper chest area. Same kissing and blow on couch and to room. Awaken my friend with nice blow and to mission, no finish, more blow back to mission, then later more blow and I did finish and had her quit. She seemed ready to stay longer, said "relax". Another shower and sat for awhile and too many smokes. Dressed on left.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1798713]S2 to Dietzenbach, as always not running on time. A slow 15 minute walk. Arrived a bit after 11. About 12 cars in lot and as I was undressing a number of buzzer rings. [/QUOTE]Club opens at 10 or 11? I am going Friday and was planning 10 AM as I thought that was opening time.

Diet Coke. Or any one else. Can you confirm open time for me? Girl on the phone didn't seem to understand my English and I am not a German speaker.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1798729]Club opens at 10 or 11? I am going Friday and was planning 10 AM as I thought that was opening time.

Diet Coke. Or any one else. Can you confirm open time for me? Girl on the phone didn't seem to understand my English and I am not a German speaker.[/QUOTE]Website says 10-24 Uhr.

[URL]http://www.fkk-63128dietzenbach.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Global1810;1798729]Club opens at 10 or 11? I am going Friday and was planning 10 AM as I thought that was opening time.

Diet Coke. Or any one else. Can you confirm open time for me? Girl on the phone didn't seem to understand my English and I am not a German speaker.[/QUOTE]10:00 am 7 days a week.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1798992]10:00 am 7 days a week.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will be there at 10 AM.

[QUOTE=Global1810;1799504]Thanks. I will be there at 10 AM.[/QUOTE]One of girls told me often there are guys there waiting for them to open.

S bahn again. Arrived about 11.

First session with Anne, interesting cone shaped breast with puffies. But session was not great. She seemed disinterested which put me off.

Later session with Nadin who I had seen several times in previous visits. Great session.

Later around 2:30 most of girls were not in main room so decided to session with Tina, not a beauty but great service.

And she provided it. Left about 3:30 and surprise S bahn was on schedule.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1798713]S2 to Dietzenbach, as always not running on time. A slow 15 minute walk. Arrived a bit after 11. About 12 cars in lot and as I was undressing a number of buzzer rings. Counted the pics when left around 3 PM and there was 22 including Nadin who had been absent from German board listings lately.

First girl, Sonja with long very wavy black hair, tattoos on calf and lower back, A tits. DFK on couch and then BJ. Later to room, long BJ there and to mission and wilted after a bit, another BJ and her CG to the finish. She used a bathroom there for a minute or two and we left. Another shower.

An hour or so later sat with Sara with flower tattoo on upper chest area. Kissing, LFK, and blowing on couch. To room and more blowing, mission wilted after a bit more blowing and more mission. Did not finish but not had enough.

Finally some later sat with Elena, some writing tattoo on upper chest area. Same kissing and blow on couch and to room. Awaken my friend with nice blow and to mission, no finish, more blow back to mission, then later more blow and I did finish and had her quit. She seemed ready to stay longer, said "relax". Another shower and sat for awhile and too many smokes. Dressed on left.[/QUOTE]Diet Coke, is that Sara the very beautiful girl who was there about 6 months back for couple of weeks? Also spelt as Sarah?

I went here on Friday. Was there 1030 until 3 M.

I was impressed with the lineup. More girls than I expected.

For the review:

After getting buzzed in from the gate a girl meets you at the front door and welcomes you to the club. To the right is toilets and to the left is small locker room with small lockers (tight on space with winter clothes to store). Showers and small sauna to the left after the locker room.

There is no hot water so shower was difficult. Girls said something about no paying no hot water bill. I don't see how girls are getting as clean as if there was warm water.

After walking past the drink station there is one room with a bunch of TV's in the he middle playing porn. All of the seating except 3 chairs is 2 person sofa. This made it difficult for the girls to find seating since most guys were alone So one guy per sofa fills up quickly. Because this club is no approach the girls want a sofa alone so a guy can come sit with them. Standard service here is sit on couch with girl, BJ on the couch, go to room, have sex in room.

Unlike other FKK clubs I have been to p, this club is for sex only. No place for relaxation between sessions.

There are no sheets for the bed. You must use your towels to lay on during room sessions. My knees ended up with rug burn from doggie kneeling on those rough towels.

Everyone seemed very nice and I was impressed with the girls attitudes. Everyone made you feel welcome and would definitely return.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;1799570]S bahn again. Arrived about 11.

First session with Anne, interesting cone shaped breast with puffies. But session was not great. She seemed disinterested which put me off.

Later session with Nadin who I had seen several times in previous visits. Great session.

Later around 2:30 most of girls were not in main room so decided to session with Tina, not a beauty but great service.

And she provided it. Left about 3:30 and surprise S bahn was on schedule.[/QUOTE]Both Anne and Nadin are slim young girls but they don't allow digits. There were only 4 girls who allow digits in this club.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1801567]There were only 4 girls who allow digits in this club.[/QUOTE]You interviewed all of the girls?

HB.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1801567]Both Anne and Nadin are slim young girls but they don't allow digits. There were only 4 girls who allow digits in this club.[/QUOTE]Alice, Anna, Alina, Dana, Nadin, Roxy, Oana, Julia, Susi, Rena all allowed digits. I don't think I'm special but my nails are generally short smooth & clean. Others might be long sharp pointy & dirty.

How's the LU here over the week? I'll be in the area Sun-Tue, and is planning to go back to Dietzenbach. Is it similar amount of girls all over the week?

[QUOTE=Skeden80;1801910]How's the LU here over the week? I'll be in the area Sun-Tue, and is planning to go back to Dietzenbach. Is it similar amount of girls all over the week?[/QUOTE]Generally same Lu all week. Some girls might take 1-2 days off during the week.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1801709]You interviewed all of the girls?

HB.[/QUOTE]I always ask the girls about digits before we go to the room. Some girls are YMMV. It's likely that a girl agrees to do this with one client but refuses to do this with others.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1802451]I always ask the girls about digits before we go to the room[/QUOTE]I am not sure I understand why there is so much interest in whether it is possible to stick fingers in the girls. Given that it is an AO club and so you can stick other bare appendages into them.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1801567]Both Anne and Nadin are slim young girls but they don't allow digits. There were only 4 girls who allow digits in this club.[/QUOTE]I find that not asking works better In a normal FKK. You just sneak up on it gradually. Sometimes they forget to stop you especially during DATY if they get turned on. I have never asked this of a girl pre session. Its likely to spoil the chemistry if you get too explicit or demanding.

In the end it comes down to her assessment of damage danger levels. That is hard before she knows the customer welll.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1803158]I find that not asking works better In a normal FKK. You just sneak up on it gradually. Sometimes they forget to stop you especially during DATY if they get turned on. I have never asked this of a girl pre session. Its likely to spoil the chemistry if you get too explicit or demanding.

[/QUOTE]I agree with you. In a normal FKK, I did this myself. I did not do DATY to any girls of FKK Dietzenbach so far. I might do DATY to some girls in the future when I know them better. Digit is not a deal breaker for me in normal FKK clubs let alone in FKK Dietzenbach. I just tried to see if I could get extra miles for my money.

I plan to return to Dietzenbach on Dec 2 for two days of fun. Anything change at the club since my last visit at the end of August? Price the same, AO still standard? New girls that are musts? I prefer younger girls.

Nothing changed. Same prices. Same service.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1805265]Nothing changed. Same prices. Same service.

HB.[/QUOTE]What are rates? Have to visit once to see girls there.

I like the new girl Daria, started there in early OCT, 24 years old, hot looking, speaks decent English. But having read about her in the lineup in the local forum since 15 NOV. May be she is gone already, too bad if it is true.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1805265]Nothing changed. Same prices. Same service.[/QUOTE]Was recently after long break in this club in Dietzenbach. Had a tip for a new girl I should see called Steffi but unfortunately she didn't work anymore there. A brief glance was sufficient that this will never be a regular club for me. Boring atmosphere (public BJ or FS not really kicks me anymore) , old fashioned equipment, doesn't look very clean, would never something eat there. And optic of the around 20 girls most of them a 6 and some 7's. And yes Alice was there! So I left this club without session.

Of course I know the service level of these girls is very high. And the price performance ratio is the best in Hessen especially for FSBB, CIM and anal. So many guys are happy there. Fine for them. So far everything is ok for me but what really bothers me these 30 euro guys fucking there a 6 and than go once per year at Oase or Mainhattan and chose a 8 or even a 9 and complain ohh this girl doesn't allow DFK, digit, DATY or BL in a 50 euro session and write a desaster report about this girl and even more whole club is than a desaster. Sorry this is just NoGo.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1805677]Was recently after long break in this club in Dietzenbach. Had a tip for a new girl I should see called Steffi but unfortunately she didn't work anymore there. A brief glance was sufficient that this will never be a regular club for me. Boring atmosphere (public BJ or FS not really kicks me anymore) , old fashioned equipment, doesn't look very clean, would never something eat there. And optic of the around 20 girls most of them a 6 and some 7's. And yes Alice was there! So I left this club without session.

Of course I know the service level of these girls is very high. And the price performance ratio is the best in Hessen especially for FSBB, CIM and anal. So many guys are happy there. Fine for them. So far everything is ok for me but what really bothers me these 30 euro guys fucking there a 6 and than go once per year at Oase or Mainhattan and chose a 8 or even a 9 and complain ohh this girl doesn't allow DFK, digit, DATY or BL in a 50 euro session and write a desaster report about this girl and even more whole club is than a desaster. Sorry this is just NoGo.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I don't understand this. I'm with you if guys are complaining about the lack of AO or free CIM, but why shouldn't the "normal service" of Dietzenbach girls be compared to the service in bigger clubs (where it is more expensive as well)?

Is your point that one prettier girls shouldn't be expected to give decent service?

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1805689]Sorry, but I don't understand this. I'm with you if guys are complaining about the lack of AO or free CIM, but why shouldn't the "normal service" of Dietzenbach girls be compared to the service in bigger clubs (where it is more expensive as well)?

Is your point that one prettier girls shouldn't be expected to give decent service?[/QUOTE]My point is very simple. I get a bottle of white or red wine already for 2 euro at a discounter like Aldi. But according my taste for white wine for a good one I must spend at least around 6 euro and for a perfect one more than 15 euro. For red wine it's even more expansive around 8 euro for good ones and more than 25 for perfect ones, some wines are even offered for more than 1000 euro. If you just want get drunk than stop here reading more but if your intention is too enjoy the wine than go on. Same for cars, phones, sound systems, rstaurants and so on. Even service provider like lawyers have different price system.

But only in German FKK clubs every girl should have the same value. If you think each pussy is same than again stop reading here. But in case you see a difference go on. Ok officially we have one price system in German FKK clubs different for instance like these massage parlors in Thailand they have a two price system for first class and second class girls. And of course in reallity we have the same at least at the big international FKK clubs in Germany. You will'll find in every Frankfurt big5 club a girl doing in a 50 euro session with a one time client DFK, DATY, digit and a very good session but these are usually not the top class girls of the clubs. The top class big5 FKK girls usually don't do this for 50 euro anymore. That's reallity! And with top class I mean optic, behavior, smartness and top class service level together. For this girls you must invest more to get service like from an Aldi girl. So these usual 30 or 50 euro guys than complain about a top class girl at Oase or in Mainhattan. But sorry this is BS my opinion they just can't afford these quality. If they wouldn't see the difference why they chose these beauties always LOL

[QUOTE=Craiova;1805703]My point is very simple. I get a bottle of white or red wine already for 2 euro at a discounter like Aldi. But according my taste for white wine for a good one I must spend at least around 6 euro and for a perfect one more than 15 euro. For red wine it's even more expansive around 8 euro for good ones and more than 25 for perfect ones, some wines are even offered for more than 1000 euro. If you just want get drunk than stop here reading more but if your intention is too enjoy the wine than go on. Same for cars, phones, sound systems, rstaurants and so on. Even service provider like lawyers have different price system.

But only in German FKK clubs every girl should have the same value. If you think each pussy is same than again stop reading here. But in case you see a difference go on. Ok officially we have one price system in German FKK clubs different for instance like these massage parlors in Thailand they have a two price system for first class and second class girls. And of course in reallity we have the same at least at the big international FKK clubs in Germany. You will'll find in every Frankfurt big5 club a girl doing in a 50 euro session with a one time client DFK, DATY, digit and a very good session but these are usually not the top class girls of the clubs. The top class big5 FKK girls usually don't do this for 50 euro anymore. That's reallity! And with top class I mean optic, behavior, smartness and top class service level together. For this girls you must invest more to get service like from an Aldi girl. So these usual 30 or 50 euro guys than complain about a top class girl at Oase or in Mainhattan. But sorry this is BS my opinion they just can't afford these quality. If they wouldn't see the difference why they chose these beauties always LOL[/QUOTE]As most of best wines are french, out of some italian, I don't agree, best wines are not always the most expensive. Same for FKK girls or escorts, I met some girls who gave me exceptionally enjoyable time for only 50 , Madi for our first room in the late night just before World closed and I said her: will you work next Saturday? I will drive from Paris to meet you again, and I did. Deria. Tu at Aca for an amazing GFE room for 35 mn for 40 .

At Oase, out of Ina or Tatiana, very difficult to have a good GFE room for less than 100 and I didn't notice any top class girl at Oase, nor Mainhattan last Saturday, out of Suzi. Cz. Top class girls are for me: Madi was before hunting and bullshitting, Agnes and Karin at Sharks. Even I love Ina and Tatiana, no top class girl seen at Oase, nor Mainhattan, last week end.

This week, I met a top class for look Russian escort. I paid 250 but she doesn't deserve even 30 due to her behavior and services.

Nevertheless, when I find a friendly, GFE, pretty girl, I don't need a model, I prefer to take my time to enjoy with her for 1 hour and 100 , but no rules, no truth, quantity don't make quality and money don't always make quality, many girls are just not able to be real women for paid sex, but just sex robot.

But I m curious to see Dietz casting.

I think Craiova's analogy to wine prices is very apt. It must burn up a Evita or Aurelia for example that she gets paid the same amount that Sylvana does, not offense to the Danish Meistro. I know I would be, if I got paid the same as someone with less credentials or has less qualifications at work. At the clubs, theoretically, the better quality girls make more money due to more hours, but that also means they need to work longer and harder, and on a per hour basis the pay still remains the same.

Do the girls consciously or subconsciously adjust down service levels due to this perceived pay and pricing inequity? Who knows. Anecdotally, some people here say yes, and some say no. I think we can find all kinds of examples and stories. It makes sense, purely on a rational argument, but I also know people who say they get top quality service from the prettiest girls in a 50 euro session.

Ok, so it does boil down to prettier girls not having to give decent service (for the standard price). Craiova, man, your making me agree with Siroja.

In my mind, no girl that feels she is too good to do the job for the standard price should be considered "first class". These statements by Ortos and Craiova the last few days are some of the saddest and misgiven things I've read on a messageboard. Defending the entitled princesses and justifying such behavior.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1805732]I think Craiova's analogy to wine prices is very apt. It must burn up a Evita or Aurelia for example that she gets paid the same amount that Sylvana does, not offense to the Danish Meistro. [/QUOTE]Actually they should get paid less as their service is far worse. In contrary to wine (which is all about taste, one single criteria) girls are rated by service AND looks. I don't want an ugly old brat with outstanding service. Neither do I want a topmodel playing starfish and offering crap service.

HB.

That's fine. Evita or Aurelia are just metaphors. Substitute with who you like. Looks and service and whatever else. The point is whether price differentiation makes sense, or should all girls be paid the same regardless of quality and service and looks. If you think some girls (Aurelia or Evita) should be paid less, then by definition, you do agree that some others should be paid more.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1805846]Actually they should get paid less as their service is far worse. In contrary to wine (which is all about taste, one single criteria) girls are rated by service AND looks. I don't want an ugly old brat with outstanding service. Neither do I want a topmodel playing starfish and offering crap service.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1805716]As most of best wines are french, out of some italian, I don't agree, best wines are not always the most expensive. [/QUOTE]Best wines for me are Spanish, particularly the dark reds, with Italian next in line. Lots of good stuff from places like Chile, Argentina etc too. There's plenty of things I like about France, but I'm not a big fan of your wine.

[QUOTE=Jim57;1806004]Best wines for me are Spanish, particularly the dark reds, with Italian next in line. Lots of good stuff from places like Chile, Argentina etc too. There's plenty of things I like about France, but I'm not a big fan of your wine.[/QUOTE]Usually, UK are found of famous dark red "Bordeaux" , I wanted to mean girls who upsell don t always provide more pleasure than girls who work for club rate. My favs: Madi, Raïssa, Francesca / Sarah, Aylice, Ina, new Tatiana, never asked me: You want to finish in my mouth? Or other extra or tip, why I repeat many times.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1805927]If you think some girls (Aurelia or Evita) should be paid less, then by definition, you do agree that some others should be paid more.[/QUOTE]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1806028]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.[/QUOTE]Most expensive wines are not always the best, but if you don't taste difference between table 10€ wine and high level wine and if it's the same for girls, for example: for me Cosmina, Aurelia, Dina have average services, Aylice or Tatiana can have exceptional services, I should give 50 for 1 hour to the first and 200 to Aylice, but Aylice never try to upsell. Not sure, we look for same quality with girls.

Joke or not, it is clear that forcing that an identical price on all girls regardless of quality (which can include looks, services, enthusiasm, pick what you like) leads to distortions.

It does not work in the real world. And the point Craiova made originally about wine is being mangled here. It was not about taste only, for wines (just as it is not about looks only for girls; as Siri said, I too will gladly pay more for Aylice than some others, even if she is not the best looker). Some people may like the brand, the vintage, the rating, prestige, whatever. Some rare wines sell for several thousands in auctions, no one buying it has tasted it yet prior to the auction, because it is pretty rare to begin with. The point is that some attribute, not necessarily taste only, hikes up the price.

And when the same price is imposed in a socialist manner, there will be a rationing. The rationing here is an intentional or subconscious reduction of service.

Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as someone less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1806028]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1806128]
And when the same price is imposed in a socialist manner, there will be a rationing. The rationing here is an intentional or subconscious reduction of service.

Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as some less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.[/QUOTE]The girls can walk and seek other jobs as well. Many former FKK girls moved to escort agencies, RLD, independents, Switzerland, Austria, and Spain. It is a free market and many girls concluded that German FKK was the best for them and returned. Others left the German FKK scene for good.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1805828]These statements by Ortos and Craiova the last few days are some of the saddest and misgiven things I've read on a messageboard. Defending the entitled princesses and justifying such behavior.[/QUOTE]Sorry my intention isn't defending or justifying such behavior although I accept these things. My point is more to describe what I see, hear and notice every time at club. And what is your opinion for the opposite, girls have some disadvantage for optic and offer service below standard price like free CIM or free anal or free BBFS. These things happen also sometimes at clubs you also blame this or you defend it and call these girls are "the goodies"?

Please don't bloat the Dietzenbach thread with generic discussion. It should be in the General Info area.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1805378]I like the new girl Daria, started there in early OCT, 24 years old, hot looking, speaks decent English. But having read about her in the lineup in the local forum since 15 NOV. May be she is gone already, too bad if it is true.[/QUOTE]She's back. Not sure how long she's plan in to stay.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1806128]Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as someone less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.[/QUOTE]At the end of the month, I think a good girl has more money than a bad one. Even with the same hour price.

This subject is recurrent, all has been said. My personnal point of view is: if you think this business is dirty, don't do it, stay home.

[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1809369]At the end of the month, I think a good girl has more money than a bad one. Even with the same hour price.

This subject is recurrent, all has been said. My personnal point of view is: if you think this business is dirty, don't do it, stay home.[/QUOTE]Exactly. You all are missing the point that €100 per hour is a pretty good minimum wage in any standards. Let's move on experts!

Just had another two great days in Dietzenbach. I am not going to post a full detailed report but I really do like this club. The girls DO READ this and other boards. As soon as I arrived one of the girls asked me if I had been writing about her on the internet. Since it was all good and she is my favorite at the club, I confessed. She just gave a little smile, more on her later.

There was just one girl I didn't really click with. A very skinny 20 yo Alina. When she was riding my cowgirl she barely would slide even half way down my shaft, I switched to mish and she arched her self so it was difficult to get more than 1/2 way in I pushed harder and she complained and wanted to go back to CG. Again barely rode me. Then she just wanted to finish by hand, at that point I abandoned the mission. Oh well it was just 30 euro.

I did have two different sessions with two girls which was alot of fun, both times with Yulia and Oana and Yulia and Roxana. Both incredible.

As I have said before these girls seem to have photographic memories. Oana (although I did not party with her in my August visit) did remember seeing me fuck other girls there. She remembered me. Other girls remember me as being from San Francisco and my name.

Kind of weird how they remember. One girls told me I look "mafia" LOL!

So here was my line up.

Day 1--Not in specific order.

Nadine.

Anka.

Yulia and Oana.

Alice.

Alina.

Bianca.

Day 2--Not in specific order.

Daria.

Yulia and Roxana.

Anna.

Bianca.

Alice.

Lisa.

I did spend quite a bit of time with my favorite, (she is really my favorite there) we talked quite a bit about life and family. She wanted to know why I waited so long to see her on my second day, I told her "saving the best for last, you are my favorite" We talked a bit more and she is planning on retire in 2016 and move back to Romania. She will take a year off and then look for a husband so she can have a family. I told her "ill be your husband" she giggled and told me I was crazy. This girl is really sweet. Some have said she is a sour puss but I have never found that with her, we had a lot more sweet talk with her and cuddle on the couch.

Now this is where it gets weird. Later on I found I had some more energy left and with the pending new law banning AO, I figured what that fuck and went for one more. My favorite girl saw me with another girl (after all our sweet talk) and she looked hurt, she gave me this look as I was sitting with another girl (how could you? Don't know if she was really mad that I went with another girl but the look she gave me sure made me feel that way.

I did leave the name of my favorite out. Since she does read here.

I don't consider myself a regular, since I live some 5500 miles away, but it is amazing how these girls remember us. Even if we don't play with them they see us with other girls, know which girls we have been with. Don't know if there is every any jealousy between them when they see us with other girls (other then the fact of not making money off you). But the look my favorite gave me when she saw me with another girl made me think so.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1809613] The girls DO READ this and other boards. As soon as I arrived one of the girls asked me if I had been writing about her on the internet. Since it was all good and she is my favorite at the club, I confessed.

I did spend quite a bit of time with my favorite, (she is really my favorite there) we talked quite a bit about life and family.

I did leave the name of my favorite out. Since she does read here.[/QUOTE]I doubt whether the girls would have found out about ISG unless members on here told them about it.

I don't think we should be confirming to the girls that we write about them on the internet or even mentioning it all. Nor should we be drawn into conversations with them about the matter. Probably safest to just pretend we do not know what the hell they are talking about and get back to the business in hand.

I don't try and treat the girls as girlfriends or even open up about my personal life with them. I just reduce them to the level of shag meat, cum dumps, fuck-and-forget. Much better that way. They are certainly not thinking about me once I have left the premise.

Guys tend to give their honest and full opinions on here about the girls and the club. If they know that these comments are being read by the girls then they will be reluctant to give their true thoughts and the forum will be very much poorer as a result. If useful information is no longer being provided then these pages could wither and die.

The girls are not stupid. If they are reading these pages then they can easily work out (based on what the guy says happened, what girls he saw and on what dates he attended) which guy it was who wrote what despite the fact that we use fake monikers on here.

From what you have said and your previous posts I could easily work out who your favorite is and if she is reading this as you say then she will know without doubt as well. There are only a couple of dozen or so girls working in this club and they all talk with each other.

A guy who gives an honest opinion on here could soon find himself being cold shouldered or even refused entry on his next visit based on what he says.

I had assumed that not talking about the forum to sex providers was common sense and should not needed to have been mentioned.

[QUOTE=DFWdude;1809613]Other girls remember me as being from San Francisco and my name.
[/QUOTE]San Francisco? I thought that you were the Dallas-Fort Worth Dude.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1809645]San Francisco? I thought that you were the Dallas-Fort Worth Dude.[/QUOTE]I was when I lived in Dallas. Since then I have moved to LOS Angeles, then to San Francisco. Have no clue how to change my user name. I guess I should have chosen a name less geographically descriptive.

Great TR Dfwdude!

Alina might be YMMV. She's always been a solid session. She's also really tight so large sizes might split her in half.

The girls memory is nothing new. In large or small clubs these girls remember everything. Also in large & small clubs the ridiculous teeny high school prom like jealousy exists. There's drama everywhere.

I've heard the retirement stories for the past 5 yrs! We'll see.

Agreed on the crazy memories for some of these ladies. I've had girls at Dietz, Sharks, Oase, and Mainhattan recall sessions with me with gaps of several months if not longer. I was at Sharks last trip and a girl I had a 30 min session with a year ago came up to me and was hurt that I forgot her name, but she remembered me.

Curious how the new AO laws will impact things and when. I'll be in Frankfurt area mid-January.

Arrived from the US on Monday and went to Dietzenbach that evening. I was pretty jet lagged, but wanted to take advantage of being in Frankfurt for one night, as I had a flight out of Frankfurt the next day. I stayed at an airport hotel and took the S train there. If memory serves, the S2 to the S8 to the end of the line. About an hour one way, and an easy 10 minute walk at the end. About 6 Euros round trip. A cab to and from would have probably been 100!

It was more or less as I remembered, shabby around the edges, no food, but only 40 E in and 30 E per girl for 20-30 min. There were more tall very thin girls than I remember though. Sorry, I don't know their names. I finally decided to go with one named Dani. A bit older than some, attractively skinny (to me), not terribly fair of face, but with some modest English and (most importantly to me) a good fun attitude. She suggested a double with Anka, and I gave her some playful pushback just to make the point, and then agreed.

The session went OK. Mutual oral with both, both taking a turn on top, then me on top with both. But jet lag (and perhaps age) kept me from popping. So I said I'd try again later, and did to great success with just Dani alone. So good, in fact, that I gave her 40, so that was a total of 140 for the entire visit. All in all a good ALDI value!

I'm curious about one of the thin girls. She has a nose that isn't big, but is downward with an angle 1/2 way, and a distinct almost Asian looking face. Should have gotten her name, and I'll be back in a couple days. Anyone recognize her by description?

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1811588]
I'm curious about one of the thin girls. She has a nose that isn't big, but is downward with an angle 1/2 way, and a distinct almost Asian looking face. Should have gotten her name, and I'll be back in a couple days. Anyone recognize her by description?[/QUOTE]Alina. Just check the pictures with the names at the front desk.

HB.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1811588]I'm curious about one of the thin girls. She has a nose that isn't big, but is downward with an angle 1/2 way, and a distinct almost Asian looking face. Should have gotten her name, and I'll be back in a couple days. Anyone recognize her by description?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure you are referring to Alina. Have never been with her but I know she speaks decent English.

The only other possible skinny girl is Bianca. Older than Alina and she does not look like an Asian at all. Never been with her either but I have heard people praised about her.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1811588]Arrived from the US on Monday and went to Dietzenbach that evening. I was pretty jet lagged, but wanted to take advantage of being in Frankfurt for one night, as I had a flight out of Frankfurt the next day. I stayed at an airport hotel and took the S train there. If memory serves, the S2 to the S8 to the end of the line. About an hour one way, and an easy 10 minute walk at the end. About 6 Euros round trip. A cab to and from would have probably been 100!

It was more or less as I remembered, shabby around the edges, no food, but only 40 E in and 30 E per girl for 20-30 min. There were more tall very thin girls than I remember though. Sorry, I don't know their names. I finally decided to go with one named Dani. A bit older than some, attractively skinny (to me), not terribly fair of face, but with some modest English and (most importantly to me) a good fun attitude. She suggested a double with Anka, and I gave her some playful pushback just to make the point, and then agreed.

The session went OK. Mutual oral with both, both taking a turn on top, then me on top with both. But jet lag (and perhaps age) kept me from popping. So I said I'd try again later, and did to great success with just Dani alone. So good, in fact, that I gave her 40, so that was a total of 140 for the entire visit. All in all a good ALDI value!

I'm curious about one of the thin girls. She has a nose that isn't big, but is downward with an angle 1/2 way, and a distinct almost Asian looking face. Should have gotten her name, and I'll be back in a couple days. Anyone recognize her by description?[/QUOTE]Nice TR.

No matter how jet lagged I am once I slide it in no problem with finishing.

Both Dani & Anka not my type & both were working at F39 when I ran into you back in January or was it March?

Alina's small tired eyes gives her an Asian look. More like someone from Kazakhstan.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1811614]I'm pretty sure you are referring to Alina. Have never been with her but I know she speaks decent English.

The only other possible skinny girl is Bianca. Older than Alina and she does not look like an Asian at all. Never been with her either but I have heard people praised about her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1811610]Alina. Just check the pictures with the names at the front desk.

HB.[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys!

Yeah, I should have thought of getting her name before leaving, but the blood hadn't returned to my big head yet.

Was asking here so I could then search for reviews. Info on Alina is sparse here. But then at 30 E for a session how big of a gamble is it really?

Nevertheless if anyone else has sessioned with her, good or bad, I'd like to hear about it.

Off to the German language sites.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1811910]

Was asking here so I could then search for reviews. Info on Alina is sparse here. But then at 30 E for a session how big of a gamble is it really?

Nevertheless if anyone else has sessioned with her, good or bad, I'd like to hear about it.

Off to the German language sites.[/QUOTE]Solid session. BJ is average but her box is very very tight so if you're big size then you might split her in half. Not in a rush to make you finish like I've heard Anka tries to do. Totally worth 30€.

My session with Alina was kind of bust. She is a cute girl and I watched her on a public session with another dude so I decided on her. But I guess I too much girth for her pussy as she would barely let me go 1/2 in to her. But from what I hear on this and german boards she is a solid performer.

Sounds worth a try for sure. Will report back!

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1811828]Alina's small tired eyes gives her an Asian look. More like someone from Kazakhstan.[/QUOTE]A very accurate description of her Vits. Alina was the girl who I referred to in a post earlier this year whose name I didn't know.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1703955]A thin girl with sunken cheekbones and bags under her eyes. [/QUOTE]On my first few visits I would mix her up with Vanessa who is also thin and has similar facial features although her cheekbones are no where near as sunken.

I like thin girls but not Aids-thin. Girls like Alina take the starvation look to a completely different level.

Her thin body, sunken cheekbones and heavy eye bags reminds me a little of a meerkat.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1812629]A very accurate description of her Vits. Alina was the girl who I referred to in a post earlier this year whose name I didn't know.

On my first few visits I would mix her up with Vanessa who is also thin and has similar facial features although her cheekbones are no where near as sunken.

I like thin girls but not Aids-thin. Girls like Alina take the starvation look to a completely different level.

Her thin body, sunken cheekbones and heavy eye bags reminds me a little of a meerkat.[/QUOTE]She's pretty thin but come on dude, aids thin? Doesn't look sickly. I've seen her eat a big burger with fries & drink. Didn't seem like she was on a diet.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1812828]She's pretty thin but come on dude, aids thin? Doesn't look sickly. I've seen her eat a big burger with fries & drink. Didn't seem like she was on a diet.[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to imply that she was suffering from an illness which I am sure she isn't. I personally like thin girls and there are a few girls here like that. I am guessing that as they have to stay at the club all day that many of them get by with just one or two meals a day and these may just be snacks.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1812828]She's pretty thin but come on dude, aids thin? Doesn't look sickly. I've seen her eat a big burger with fries & drink. Didn't seem like she was on a diet.[/QUOTE]Alina is going home for the holidays any day now. She told me each time she returns gaining some weight because her mom always makes her lots of food.

Looking to first visit.

The reports, here & elsewhere, mostly sound promising but all comments on [URL]http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-40-dietzenbach/[/URL] are extremely negative. If just reading those you wouldn't bother.

So just wondering why the big discrepancy?

Also how big is the usual line-up on Sunday -Tuesday.

[QUOTE=HungUpDown;1816491]Looking to first visit.

The reports, here & elsewhere, mostly sound promising but all comments on [URL]http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-40-dietzenbach/[/URL] are extremely negative. If just reading those you wouldn't bother.

So just wondering why the big discrepancy?

Also how big is the usual line-up on Sunday -Tuesday.[/QUOTE]If you are expecting Victoria secret models then you will not find any at this club & only a handful working in Germany. 18-25 girls. Some are horrendous some average some above average & a couple nice ones.

Agree with VC's assessment on Dietzenbach. As far as service level, in my experience, I had much higher percentage of getting bad services in other big FKK clubs than in Dietzenbach.

The other forum stated many errors in the fees. There is no additional charge for extra services (CIM, anal). And the entry fee is 40 EUR and there is no free entry before 12:00 pm.

[QUOTE=HungUpDown;1816491]Looking to first visit.

The reports, here & elsewhere, mostly sound promising but all comments on [URL]http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-40-dietzenbach/[/URL] are extremely negative. If just reading those you wouldn't bother.

So just wondering why the big discrepancy?

Also how big is the usual line-up on Sunday -Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Compared to the other (big) clubs in Hessen, service level in Dietzenbach is good, looks of the girls much less, so depends on what you are looking for.

Compared to the other RTCs in NRW however, I would always prefer eg Freud39, Verena, Villa Venus, etc over Dietzenbach, since the lineup in the NRW RTCs IMHO is better (in looks, same service level).

If you like tall very thin girls Dietzenbach currently has some attractive ones.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1816643]Compared to the other (big) clubs in Hessen, service level in Dietzenbach is good, looks of the girls much less, so depends on what you are looking for.

Compared to the other RTCs in NRW however, I would always prefer eg Freud39, Verena, Villa Venus, etc over Dietzenbach, since the lineup in the NRW RTCs IMHO is better (in looks, same service level).[/QUOTE]I was in Germany recently & I can't think of anyone at 39, Verena or Venus that look better than Anna & Alice at Dietz. OK, Alice is getting older mid to late 20's, but you must have missed Anna when you visited.

Verena? That place is a joke compared to the top lookers at Dietz. 39? Lina is older & moody maybe Beatrix but she's covered only so she doesn't count. The rest is average maybe a few above average. Janina is also nice. Venus? Jasmine is nice but since she's 6'1 w / o heels makes her more attractive but disguises her dark gypsy like skin. She also has nice tits but not as heavenly as Anna. Michaela the young white skinned Romy is nice & very tight & Marianna is nice but both comparable to Alina & Oana.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1816643]
Compared to the other RTCs in NRW however, I would always prefer eg Freud39, Verena, Villa Venus, etc over Dietzenbach, since the lineup in the NRW RTCs IMHO is better (in looks, same service level).[/QUOTE]In my limit experience I found better service level in NRW.

Haven't been to Dietzenbach for a while as I didn't like the optics. If we are comparing them, then I go for the really slim Larissa at Venus. Better figure than 99% of girls at GT LR Babylon World etc. But of course only if one likes gazelles and size AA breasts.. And of course just my taste and I don't visit the clubs more than 40 times a year so I am a little inexperienced.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1816678]In my limit experience I found better service level in NRW.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for anal & the true GFE mushy stuff then clubs like Grimberg in NRW is better.