Vientiane

There is very little activity on the whole Laos board now.

Is it because few people are travelling in Vientiane?

Is there a dead nightlife scene? (I can't believe that)

How about Bor Pen Yang? Still a potential hang-out?

Other updates? I hope to be there late July to mid-August. It would be good to have some recent news on the scene.

Where exactly is "At Home" nightclub situated?

I thought I had found most of the "usual" haunts in Vientiane but this is a new one for me.

I regularly visit BPY and I know "The Drop Zone" but not "At Home".

Please give some reference points.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1455911]Where exactly is "At Home" nightclub situated?

I thought I had found most of the "usual" haunts in Vientiane but this is a new one for me.

I regularly visit BPY and I know "The Drop Zone" but not "At Home".

Please give some reference points.[/QUOTE]On the road going to the airport, right side. I think it's past Future disco.

One more place to check out is the massage place in Vientiane Plaza Hotel. Can't remember the prices, but they offer HJ and BBBJ. Mostly Vietnamese girls.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1455911]Where exactly is "At Home" nightclub situated?

I thought I had found most of the "usual" haunts in Vientiane but this is a new one for me.

I regularly visit BPY and I know "The Drop Zone" but not "At Home".

Please give some reference points.[/QUOTE]Ask a taxidriver, they know the club. The best way to write the name on a piece of paper. The club is located in the center, the name was about "ToatHome Club" or something like that.

There are many locals, the good women are not available. Also there are a lot of foreigners. A good place to drink, but a not so good place to take a 8-10 home with you.

The music is techno-like, extremely loud and it's very cold.

[QUOTE=UlyLee; 1456009]On the road going to the airport, right side. I think it's past Future disco.

One more place to check out is the massage place in Vientiane Plaza Hotel. Can't remember the prices, but they offer HJ and BBBJ. Mostly Vietnamese girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks Uly for both tips. I will be there soon for work for an extended period so I will try to update some of the action details on this board

As is always the case, just when I go to BPY with 3 work colleagues there are lots of available girls alone and in groups smiling and winking at me and I have to ignore and act normally as my colleagues would not understand.

I will have to return solo tomorrow night and see what the scene is like.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1458136]As is always the case, just when I go to BPY with 3 work colleagues there are lots of available girls alone and in groups smiling and winking at me and I have to ignore and act normally as my colleagues would not understand.

I will have to return solo tomorrow night and see what the scene is like.[/QUOTE]Had you found home disco? I just pass by this evening from the Airport is like 200-500m from Mecure Hotel.

Spent a few nights here before I make my adventure to the Lao-China border.

I checked all these hotel pick ups. I was quite disappointed that LOD 1, 2 and TiHow have turned into some massive commercial enterprises. There are tours buses of Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais guys that swarm these places all night. The ladies have become very very commercialized more than their Thai sisters.

I did try 3 the hotel pick ups, but all very cold and motionless. Don't even think of service here. The time has changed in Vientiane. The most joyful time in Vientiane in the 90's to early 2000's is now history and in memory only.

Also TiHow, LOD1, 2 now have become very mafia like establishments. I felt quite uneasy with all these gangster mean looking young thugs all over the place. It wasn't like that some years back. The quality also has gone way down.

I found some new shops when I was walking around. Near LOD2, I found 2 Vietnam shops. It is hard to describe the location because they are somewhat hidden inside an alleyway, but very close to LOD2. The shops were dark, I was waved in my an old mamasan. She told me all girls from Vietnam. About 6-8 girls in each shop, I did see some doable ones.

The mamasan successfully pushed a new comer for LT to me, quite pretty in my standard, ST she quote me 50 USD, but come down to 40 with little bargain, ST action only allowed in LOD2, LT quote was 80 USD, but gave me 70. The girl was Viet, and spoke zero English, only a few Lao-Thai words. They telephoned a samlor for me to go back my hotel.

I had a good bare BJ from her, first BJ in Laos this trip. Kept her until 2 am, and sent her back, she asked 20000 kip for samlor.

My final night, I kind of over spent in Mekong karaoke. I tipped the mamasan to intro me some girl with good service. She was not too sure about this but only heard from some of her customers. I picked 2 to go for a drinks. There were so many girls, lots of them marching around the hall way, some stay in their waiting room, it is hard to see all of them, then a huge Chinese business group came, and took 20 of them away.

I picked one out of the 2, went for LT, the LD was quite pricy now, about 40000 kip, beer 25000, LT quote 650000 kip, or can pay in USD 80. This is the only place I find that you can pay the body fee afterwards to lady. Other karaoke places here want fees in front.

The girl was from north Laos, still low mileage, some brief BBBJ, very nice body, the only one allowed me to eat her meat this trip. Wanted to send her back at 3 am, but she fell asleep, so had to bear up with some stranger in my bed till the morning. I took another 50 mg Viagra early morning, but she was in a hurry to go. Crap I wasted a good boner.

Okay, still some ladies to keep you company in Vientiane. But good old time is gone, and price steep due to the masses of guys from China, and Thailand, and local Laos are getting richer and richer, these business do not need to depend on us anymore like it once was.

Going to the China Lao border for some green fresh pastures now.

My 20 days in Vientiane ends tomorrow.

Thanks to a mountain of work plus an appointment list of meetings from hell I had very little time to indulge in our favorite pastime.

I was also staying in a hotel which frowned upon guests in rooms and as my hotel had been booked and paid for by my local employer I was worried that any extracurricular activity would be relayed to them. Another expat staying in the hotel told me he had brought back a friend one night and they gave her the 3rd degree, insisted on registering her and charging him a joiner's fee as well as warning him next day about the perils of picking up Lao girls.

I managed to get to Bor Pen Yang on 3 nights, and it is still a popular haunt for guys with many Viet and local girls cruising in from time to time. No stunners though and a few fuglies. English is not widely spoken but if you have some Thai language you will get by very well.

I was chatted up by a very attractive woman one night in Kop Chai Deu restaurant when I was sitting at the bar waiting for my work colleagues so I had to turn her away before they arrived. She found another punter very quickly and away they went.

Vientiane Plaza Hotel has a great spa and massage annex and I visited one weekend. The girls are virtually all Vietnamese. Extra service was available as described in an earlier post here.

The disappointing thing for me from my last visit in May 2012 was the enormous spike in the number of cars on the roads. Something like 40, 000 new cars were registered in the first half of the year, and for a city with a population of just over 800, 000 there are way too many registered cars.

This indicates that the economy is rapidly expanding and people are ditching motor cycles for cars but the roads are not equipped for such an increase. There are no parking spaces either so cars park on the footpath along virtually every street in the city and so pedestrians have to walk on the roads and dodge the traffic too.

The restaurants are still wonderful and Beerlao still tastes very nice so all is not lost but Laos is not a venue for mongers.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1462427]Spent a few nights here before I make my adventure to the Lao-China border.

I checked all these hotel pick ups. I was quite disappointed that LOD 1, 2 and TiHow have turned into some massive commercial enterprises. There are tours buses of Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais guys that swarm these places all night. The ladies have become very very commercialized more than their Thai sisters.

I did try 3 the hotel pick ups, but all very cold and motionless. Don't even think of service here. The time has changed in Vientiane. The most joyful time in Vientiane in the 90's to early 2000's is now history and in memory only.

Also TiHow, LOD1, 2 now have become very mafia like establishments. I felt quite uneasy with all these gangster mean looking young thugs all over the place. It wasn't like that some years back. The quality also has gone way down.

I found some new shops when I was walking around. Near LOD2, I found 2 Vietnam shops. It is hard to describe the location because they are somewhat hidden inside an alleyway, but very close to LOD2. The shops were dark, I was waved in my an old mamasan. She told me all girls from Vietnam. About 6-8 girls in each shop, I did see some doable ones.

The mamasan successfully pushed a new comer for LT to me, quite pretty in my standard, ST she quote me 50 USD, but come down to 40 with little bargain, ST action only allowed in LOD2, LT quote was 80 USD, but gave me 70. The girl was Viet, and spoke zero English, only a few Lao-Thai words. They telephoned a samlor for me to go back my hotel.

I had a good bare BJ from her, first BJ in Laos this trip. Kept her until 2 am, and sent her back, she asked 20000 kip for samlor.

My final night, I kind of over spent in Mekong karaoke. I tipped the mamasan to intro me some girl with good service. She was not too sure about this but only heard from some of her customers. I picked 2 to go for a drinks. There were so many girls, lots of them marching around the hall way, some stay in their waiting room, it is hard to see all of them, then a huge Chinese business group came, and took 20 of them away.

I picked one out of the 2, went for LT, the LD was quite pricy now, about 40000 kip, beer 25000, LT quote 650000 kip, or can pay in USD 80. This is the only place I find that you can pay the body fee afterwards to lady. Other karaoke places here want fees in front.

The girl was from north Laos, still low mileage, some brief BBBJ, very nice body, the only one allowed me to eat her meat this trip. Wanted to send her back at 3 am, but she fell asleep, so had to bear up with some stranger in my bed till the morning. I took another 50 mg Viagra early morning, but she was in a hurry to go. Crap I wasted a good boner.

Okay, still some ladies to keep you company in Vientiane. But good old time is gone, and price steep due to the masses of guys from China, and Thailand, and local Laos are getting richer and richer, these business do not need to depend on us anymore like it once was.

Going to the China Lao border for some green fresh pastures now.[/QUOTE]Even I know this is the trend, but I am still sad to hear this.

Agree with other posters. Vientiane is no longer a place for mongers, at least not for falang. These days when I am asked the best place for mongering in Vientiane I say "Nong Khai" (across the river in Thailand).

Bor Pen Nyang is more ladyboys than real girls, so be careful. The few available hotels and clubs, as mentioned recently on this thread, are oriented towards Asians and the girls are now very expensive (over $40+ ST) and offer terrible service. Ridiculous compared to Thailand.

Plus the authorities still look for chances to arrest the unknowing falang who take a Lao lady to a room. To get out of this situation can cost the falang thousands of dollars. Sleeping with a Lao lady who is not your wife remains illegal in Laos. Beware.

If you come to Vientiane for business, do your mongering in Thailand on the way in and out.

I flew in from from Luang Namtha on Lao Air ATR, the same aircraft that crashed into the Mekong several days ago. This time safe landing.

I met up with a friend and we rented jumbo all night. We went to Tihow, and the lobby show case was gone, concierge directed us to the karaoke, before there was a fast food pick up, seems like now they are doing the karaoke, my friend spotted some girl he likes, so I was forced to pick out a lady for a drinking session, actually I hate the procedure.

He decided to all nite his girl. 100USD, drinks no included, I did not like my companion, I waved her to go back, my friend was willing to join me for my next search.

Got back to our private jumbo, LOD1 again we came, it was again so busy, I got turned off by these hordes of mini van Chinese and Thai guys, actually I saw one I like, but mamasan said she student only can stay till 6am. 2500 bahts, no discount for this one, I pass.

The next stop LOD2, out of ladies, mamasan said some Thai groups took 10 away.

I was running out of places, called a mamasan in Penguin Club, she said she had a few for my viewing. I inspect them, but did not really want to fork out 85 USD for companionship for some one I don't feel I can get horny.

I set my friend and his night friend loose, and set the jumbo loose after drop me off at Mekong karaoke.

Again I had to drink a few beers to make me decide faster. There are lots of girls everywhere, just cannot find one that I can imagine I can have good pounding with. Mamasan called someone from upstairs private room, she said I like this one, I looked at her and remember I took out this one before like 2 years ago, mamasan really have a photogenic memory, but the girl has aged quite a bit in this night owl lifestyle, I bought her some drinks and finger her dry pussy a bit, I turned her loose as well.

I came back hotel alone from karaokes the first time in I don't know how many years. It's my fault, not girls fault, I have yet to adjust the changing time in Laos. The great memories of the old past in Laos still haunt me.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1486111]Got back to our private jumbo, LOD1 again we came, it was again so busy, I got turned off by these hordes of mini van Chinese and Thai guys, actually I saw one I like, but mamasan said she student only can stay till 6am. 2500 bahts, no discount for this one, I pass.

The next stop LOD2, out of ladies, mamasan said some Thai groups took 10 away.[/QUOTE]What time would you suggest to head there, before the girls get group booked?

My first night in Vientiane yesterday and went to Bor Pen Yang. Quite a number of girls, but mostly already with guys (possibly French navy / sailors). There were a few other girls who were dressed quite well sitting across the bar. Thought of approaching but main issue is I didn't know whether my hotel is guest friendly. It was already getting late (past 11pm) and they would have already locked the doors, with only way in being to wake up the guy sleeping in the lobby. Not sure how well it would have gone down coming back with a lady in tow at that time of the night. So returned to hotel alone.

Popped my head into Samlo Bar along the way. 3-4 girls sitting around all looking pretty bored. No real lookers but option is there.

Will be talking a trip to Laos next week. 2-3 day trip.

Any updated info will be appreciated.

Oh, planning on spending a day at Savan Vegas losing some baht. Been there twice and both times there wasn't any lady action to be easily seen.

There isn't much going on here in this thread. Somebody asked in few posts back why this is, and if Laos should be avoided what mongering is concerned.

The answer IMHO is somewhat like that (your experience may vary, I respect that) :

1. Prostitution in Laos is illegal. There are no mongering bars, strip clubs or anything you may find in Thailand's top mongering destinations, Phuket, Pattaya, and / or Bangkok (also rarely in the countryside in Thailand either).

2. I do not know of any better hotel in ALL of Laos which would be "girlfriendly". The owner of the hotel would get into serious water in case somebody would report him / her. In case you get caught by the police while having fun with a Lao girl in your room who is NOT your wife, it would provide a very welcome windfall for the officers. (Remember it's all about the money, not only in mongering but in the police force or any other government institution here as well.)

Having said that of course you can have a great time, especially in Vientiane, but also in I. E. Pakse, not so much in Luang Prabang. In Vientiane there is of course the Vientiane Laos Hotel which has a massage / spa place in a separate building, staffed exclusively with Vietnamese ladies. I hesitate to report on the service level there, but I know. You may PM me. Besides the obvious Vientiane Hotel, there are quiet a few massage places where you get a decent massage and a BBBJ, CIM, for a tip.

You won't find any intelligence on this forum since everybody who knows won't tell, and those who don't know will keep there mouth shut anyway. Everybody wants to protect the providers in this country.

In Pakse it is something which requires contact to a local. You need somebody to take you to the (small) KTV's, it requires contacts, time, and effort. It also helps when you look younger than 40.

In summary:

Laos is NOT an EASY mongering country, besides it is the most expensive country of the three: Thailand, Laos, Cambodia.

I forgot:

What can happen here, especially around the fountain is that a girl on a scooter drives by and solicits here services. Go for it in case you like the way she looks.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1526079]What can happen here, especially around the fountain is that a girl on a scooter drives by and solicits here services. Go for it in case you like the way she looks.[/QUOTE]Your post#15 is an excellent summary of Vientiane (and Laos in general) Frankfurter.

It adds to my recent experiences late last year (see post #9). I particularly agree with your comment that those of us who know some more information hesitate to put it on an open board as we all know that the "authorities" read these boards in a clandestine manner.

However, there are some examples of hotels which turn a blind eye when you enter with a friend, especially if "she is well dressed and doesn't look like a tramp" (this is a quote from a hotel manager that I befriended 2 trips ago). I asked him straight out what was the scene in his hotel because I was working and I sure didn't need anything to besmirch my reputation.

The "girls" on the scooters are not just around the fountain and they can pop up anywhere but they trawl frequently up and down Fa Ngum (the street alongside the Mekong on which is Bor Pen Yang bar). I said "girls" because a large percentage of the scooter riders are men dressed up like girls so it pays to be aware of this. Personally I think it is probably the quickest way to get set-up or get yourself in trouble and I have always kept walking and never availed of the offerings.

Spent about a week in Vientiane recently and saw clear sings of working girls, although I didn't confirm. Walking down Rue Setthathilath at 11:30 one night I passed a crowd of three streetwalkers who asked if I was interested, and another evening I was chatting with some massage parlour girls who joked that for $50 one of them would be my girlfriend, so the city is not dead by any means. I didn't pursue because I found a freebie local girl via We Chat. Search the list of females nearby, say hi to every one within 3km that has some English in their description and / or pictures of alcohol in their recent posts (mine had both) , and see what happens. We texted back and forth for a couple hours, agreed to meet for dinner the same night, went to the club together after dinner (athome club, her idea) , then basically spent the next 4 days in bed. I speak no Lao and she paid her share of everything every time. Something good to be said about the culture there, imo.

Just managed to get a one year visa for Laos. I will be spending more time here until next year. Just spent 2 weeks in Luang Namtha and Udomxay visiting my several regular nice girls, they see me like a sugar papa but I don't mind, I spend really little compare the fun they provide.

Came in Vientiane on the very safe Lao Air, I went through the rounds of my regular shops, La On Dao1, Ti Hao, all the same, all girls very rush very business like, lots of Chinese groups, same price 40 USD or 1200, no fun at all, just a place to shoot cum, they will quote you 1500 if you are newbie, I feel recently papa and mamasans are not very friendly, too much business.

I went to Mekong karaoke 2 times, some more new girls, but nowadays, no one perform bare blow, it's 50 USD go up stair ST in Mekong hotel, if your hotel too far, I find many girls very reluctant to go now, may ask you 100 for LT instead, the attitude of girls are getting more and more bad.

That's about all I did in several days in VT, Vientiane is now very very commercialized, if you expect some young innocent thing lick you all over, it's long gone gone with the wind 10 years ago, you got to be very lucky to find one.

[QUOTE=RCAKnight;1579718]Just managed to get a one year visa for Laos. I will be spending more time here until next year. Just spent 2 weeks in Luang Namtha and Udomxay visiting my several regular nice girls, they see me like a sugar papa but I don't mind, I spend really little compare the fun they provide.

Came in Vientiane on the very safe Lao Air, I went through the rounds of my regular shops, La On Dao1, Ti Hao, all the same, all girls very rush very business like, lots of Chinese groups, same price 40 USD or 1200, no fun at all, just a place to shoot cum, they will quote you 1500 if you are newbie, I feel recently papa and mamasans are not very friendly, too much business.

I went to Mekong karaoke 2 times, some more new girls, but nowadays, no one perform bare blow, it's 50 USD go up stair ST in Mekong hotel, if your hotel too far, I find many girls very reluctant to go now, may ask you 100 for LT instead, the attitude of girls are getting more and more bad.

That's about all I did in several days in VT, Vientiane is now very very commercialized, if you expect some young innocent thing lick you all over, it's long gone gone with the wind 10 years ago, you got to be very lucky to find one.[/QUOTE]2 or 3 years back I asked a tuk tuk driver to take me to 'look lady'. He took me to one place that was rubbish so I asked him to take me somewhere else. He took me to a brothel with gorgeous young girls for 1200 baht. I can't believe things would have changed that much in 2 years.

Hard to believe your description about the hotels. I have personally taken numerous girls to at least 4 different hotels in VTE. Those hotels were generally the top of the range. Apart from some old rumours, I have never heard in the last 5 years of anybody getting and trouble with the law for being with a Lao girl, hooker or not.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1526077]There isn't much going on here in this thread. Somebody asked in few posts back why this is, and if Laos should be avoided what mongering is concerned.

The answer IMHO is somewhat like that (your experience may vary, I respect that) :

1. Prostitution in Laos is illegal. There are no mongering bars, strip clubs or anything you may find in Thailand's top mongering destinations, Phuket, Pattaya, and / or Bangkok (also rarely in the countryside in Thailand either).

2. I do not know of any better hotel in ALL of Laos which would be "girlfriendly". The owner of the hotel would get into serious water in case somebody would report him / her. In case you get caught by the police while having fun with a Lao girl in your room who is NOT your wife, it would provide a very welcome windfall for the officers. (Remember it's all about the money, not only in mongering but in the police force or any other government institution here as well.)

Having said that of course you can have a great time, especially in Vientiane, but also in I. E. Pakse, not so much in Luang Prabang. In Vientiane there is of course the Vientiane Laos Hotel which has a massage / spa place in a separate building, staffed exclusively with Vietnamese ladies. I hesitate to report on the service level there, but I know. You may PM me. Besides the obvious Vientiane Hotel, there are quiet a few massage places where you get a decent massage and a BBBJ, CIM, for a tip.

You won't find any intelligence on this forum since everybody who knows won't tell, and those who don't know will keep there mouth shut anyway. Everybody wants to protect the providers in this country.

In Pakse it is something which requires contact to a local. You need somebody to take you to the (small) KTV's, it requires contacts, time, and effort. It also helps when you look younger than 40.

In summary:

Laos is NOT an EASY mongering country, besides it is the most expensive country of the three: Thailand, Laos, Cambodia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1526077]There isn't much going on here in this thread. Somebody asked in few posts back why this is, and if Laos should be avoided what mongering is concerned.

The answer IMHO is somewhat like that (your experience may vary, I respect that) :

1. Prostitution in Laos is illegal. There are no mongering bars, strip clubs or anything you may find in Thailand's top mongering destinations, Phuket, Pattaya, and / or Bangkok (also rarely in the countryside in Thailand either).

2. I do not know of any better hotel in ALL of Laos which would be "girlfriendly". The owner of the hotel would get into serious water in case somebody would report him / her. In case you get caught by the police while having fun with a Lao girl in your room who is NOT your wife, it would provide a very welcome windfall for the officers. (Remember it's all about the money, not only in mongering but in the police force or any other government institution here as well.) .[/QUOTE]I have just been flipping back over the Laos blogs and one recent entry for Vientiane caught my eye.

I am not sure what planet Frankfurter is on but I am flummoxed by his thoughts about this lovely little town. Or maybe it is just his choice to be eternally pessimistic and drift through life being pleasantly surprised. Whatever he is on, do not let him drag you down to his level.

Vientiane is not Bangkok or Pattaya in much the same way that Laos is not Thailand, but that doesn't mean they are diametrically opposite. Put simply, they just do things a little different here. Like politics or driving, it might differ or be opposite but the result is generally the same.

Prostitution may still be illegal in Laos but it that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Sure there are few, if any, Thai style bars and pick up spots but do a bit of low-key digging and you will find some nice surprises. It is the same all over the countryside.

I plead guilty to not staying in the 'better' hotels so I do not know how they manage the guests requirements but I can tell you that any 4 star or lower hotel will not have a problem with your guest provided you keep it discreet. And don't we all want that?

I have booked into a number of hotels with Lao friends standing next to me and they have never been asked a question nor have they been asked for their local identification. I have also taken a few 'new found best friends' back to my room after dark and the same result. No questions, no warnings and no additional charge.

All of us have heard of the threat of arrest but I don't think there is anyone on this forum who could plead to a problem with the local LE. Unless they were stupid enough to make a big scene instead of just copping the loss and walking away.

There are a few hotels like the quoted Vientiane Laos Hotel with on-site massage services. You will find them all over Laos you just have to ask a local tuk tuk driver or concierge. You will find one or two, even in Pakse and I guarantee you will get a room even if you are over 40.

In the end, just remember Laos is not like Thailand. But in its only low key way it is delightful place to visit and the people are welcoming. There is plenty of good quality advice in these blogs. And despite what Farnkfurter advises, it is way cheaper than he thinks.

Take it from someone who knows, try it. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Good luck with your projects.

Moresauce

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1526077]

1. Prostitution in Laos is illegal. There are no mongering bars, strip clubs or anything you may find in Thailand's top mongering destinations, Phuket, Pattaya, and / or Bangkok (also rarely in the countryside in Thailand either).

2. I do not know of any better hotel in ALL of Laos which would be "girlfriendly". The owner of the hotel would get into serious water in case somebody would report him / her. In case you get caught by the police while having fun with a Lao girl in your room who is NOT your wife[/QUOTE]I think prostitution is in theory illegal not only in Laos, but also in Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam ect. These rules were written centuries ago for show only. In all these years playing in Laos, I have never heard one single case that a foreigner getting busted for poking a Lao girl. Maybe you heard a rumour here and there, but probably these are created by expats themselves to scare away the punters from invading this once pristine pasture, too bad not any more since 5-6 years ago.

Regarding the GF hotels, I have never encounter any issue in hotels or guest houses in big and small towns in Laos, some big expensive hotels at most register the lady's I'd, just like in Myanmar, Frankfurter is quoting some ancient text that has existed since eons ago, or is it another scare tactic to drive people away from this once green fresh pasture.

[QUOTE=RCAKnight;1605519]I think prostitution is in theory illegal not only in Laos, but also in Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam ect. These rules were written centuries ago for show only. In all these years playing in Laos, I have never heard one single case that a foreigner getting busted for poking a Lao girl. Maybe you heard a rumour here and there, but probably these are created by expats themselves to scare away the punters from invading this once pristine pasture, too bad not any more since 5-6 years ago.

Regarding the GF hotels, I have never encounter any issue in hotels or guest houses in big and small towns in Laos, some big expensive hotels at most register the lady's I'd, just like in Myanmar, Frankfurter is quoting some ancient text that has existed since eons ago, or is it another scare tactic to drive people away from this once green fresh pasture.[/QUOTE]Lao Plaza was GF friendly when I was there last year. I can tell you first hand about being busted with a local girl because it happened to me, but this was about 12 years ago. There was much more of a scene back then, more expats and more girls. I was living there for 3 years and pulled a girl from a bar one night. Police arrived during the night and busted us. I got around a 2,000 baht fine whilst the girl got locked up for the night, it wasn't her first time being busted, but I think the other times were not for hooking.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;1609918]There was much more of a scene back then, more expats and more girls. I was living there for 3 years and pulled a girl from a bar one night. Police arrived during the night and busted us. I got around a 2,000 baht fine whilst the girl got locked up for the night, it wasn't her first time being busted, but I think the other times were not for hooking.[/QUOTE]Police raided your hotel room during the night? I have never heard of Lao police raid hotel rooms looking for hookers. It happens sometimes in China. I believe they were looking for something else and stumbled upon you and your bird, and decided to make a little profit from it.

[QUOTE=RCAKnight;1615748]Police raided your hotel room during the night? I have never heard of Lao police raid hotel rooms looking for hookers. It happens sometimes in China. I believe they were looking for something else and stumbled upon you and your bird, and decided to make a little profit from it.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the most up to date stuff but up to a couple of years ago the police used to put on a big clean up / crack-down before the big national holidays, especially Lao New Year. Even guys living with Lao girls but not married used to be careful and some were advised by the village headman to send the girl back to her parents until the holiday period was over.

It is illegal to live with a Lao person of the opposite sex in Laos unless married in Laos. They used to reserve this law for foreigners living with Lao girls. This also gave them the excuse to visit hotels especially before big holidays. But not the very big expensive ones obviously.

The trouble in Laos is that the law is not clear and not applied equally and consistently. Some village headmen give problems and some don't. I would say that outside the big holiday periods that central Vientiane and Luang Prabang are fine for bringing a lady back to the hotel (assuming that the hotel is GF, of course!

I think I posted this before, but there is a MP inside the parking area of Vientiane Plaza Hotel. They charge roughly 250,000 Kip for 60 minutes massage. You choose your girl from a fishbowl, mostly Vietnamese. Inside the room there is a steam room, jacuzzi and massage table. You can opt to have steam first then afterwards the girl will wash you down, scrub every inch and crevice of your body. Then the customary massage. For me, I prefer that she give me a good back massage first. When she asks you to flip on your back, she will then pop the question, want a HJ, BBBJ or quicky. Before they would ask you that checkin to the hotel first, but last month, we did it right inside the massage room. 400,000 Kip for one shot.

I also went to a club far from the downtown area, near the universities, a local friend brought me there so I don't know the exact name of the place. I found some girls willing to do 400,000 Kip for an all nighter. I took two girls for 720,000 Kip, hoping for a nice threesome, but both of them was shy so basically I do one, while the other turns her back and afterwards do the other.

I went back here last month and was surprised that you can no fuck the inside the massage room. 230000 kip for 60 mins massage, steam and jacuzzi. You choose a girl from a fish bowl, mostly Vietnamese. The girl will scrub you down in the jacuzzi. Do the customary massage and when you flip over, she'll ask you if you want Hand job, BBBJ or ST. Asked for 400000 kip for one shot, bargain down to 350000. Nice a quick, no hassles. Before they will ask you to check into the hotel first and would only do hand jobs and BBBJ in the rooms.

[QUOTE=RCAKnight;1615748]Police raided your hotel room during the night? I have never heard of Lao police raid hotel rooms looking for hookers. It happens sometimes in China. I believe they were looking for something else and stumbled upon you and your bird, and decided to make a little profit from it.[/QUOTE]I was living in a house which doubled as our office. I think we were dobbed in by someone who probably got a cut from the cops.

Cost of hotel. Advance reservations or just show up??

Night Club w / ladies recommendation for action after midnight.

2 day stay in town this month.

Any casino ladies similar to Vegas?

4 days until the trip.

Spent 5 days here to get away from all my normal Thailand distractions, get some work done and get a new visa. Here is what I learned:

La Ong Dao Hotel 1 is indeed GF friendly (just use the back entrance). However they now have karaoke rooms there. So I couldn't find this room of people showing you girls to take away but maybe there is something you can do with the karaoke girls. Some of the karaoke girls were gorgeous. Friend who spoke decent Thai asked a few people hanging around in that parking lot about girls and no one had a clue.

Make sure you get one of the nice rooms if you stay there. The cheaper ones are a disaster. The nicer ones aren't so bad.

After my friend and I struck out looking for the hotel girls we talked to a tuk tuk who said HE knew a place for 1200 baht and if we didn't like them HE had a few other options. So we said sure.

It was a short drive from L O the 1 (I didn't bring my phone but my guess from his driving is that it was around: 17.9542292,102.6344427 but don't go looking walking around trying to find it.) The name of the place was wonder land guesthouse (not to be confused with W L G 2 which is downtown.) Maybe if you talk to a tuk tuk HE might know the place.

When we go there they took us to a room and about 5 minutes later there was a group of around 8 girls sitting around us very quite. All cute but no stunners. None of them spoke a word of English and they were all Laos girls. My friend picked one and then I grabbed another. The cost was 400,000 kip for full service in one of the rooms. The rooms were ok. A lot better than I expected.

We both took a shower and then she reluctantly gave me a BBBJ. I had to ask her 3 times to keep going on that. After the 3rd asking and some eye rolling from her I tossed on a condom and we started in missionary. After a few minutes of missionary I put her on top and she did her thing. She wasn't too happy I wasn't a 3 minute guy but she eventually got with a program when doing doggy style and finally I came.

All in all a good experience. She said she looked Vietnamese (I think HE name was Nok) and I would agree with that. She was super thin and a bit tall compared to most. Most of the lao looking girls didn't really do it for me.

My friend told me that HE was told about some 300 baht Vietnamese girls from a tuk tuk but we both decided that that seemed way to low grade / sketch for our tastes.

I think for quality and if you don't mind the transport that the girls you will find at bor pen where a lot better looking and my friend said were the same price or just a little more. These were probably the best looking girls I saw the whole time in VT. I however don't care much for bringing girls back to my room especially since L A the 1 doesn't' have safes in the room.

Stayed at La Ong the 1 3 types of rooms. 600/1000/1200 baht. Looked at all 3 types. Only the 1200 baht room was ok.

3500 baht for a taxi driver to get us to Dan Savhan Casino and back 9 hours later. Road there was still under construction.

Pot holes everywhere. At least 14 km of bad road. Sad part 6 months ago the road was in the same condition. Close to a 2.

Hour ride. Would only be about an hour if the road was decent.

Casino didn't have any casino ladies at the bar but there's a karaoke bar across from where the main entrance to the casino is.

Looked in there was about 15 dressed up ladies working there. Sorry didn't get any price info!!

Didn't get back to town until 11 pm. Back parking area of La Ong the Hotel there were 7 ladies in a 600 baht room all avg looking.

They asked for 2000 baht ST and 3000 LT. Way over priced.

Breakfast at the hotel sucked!!

Travel: They are actually x-raying bags when reentering Thailand.

After clearing Lao immigration outbound they added a step. Have to get a card (free for Farangs) to get thru.

To the bus area.

Stupid part you have to go into outbound traffic to get to the booth to get this card.

Tuk tuk drivers were asking 150 baht minimum for 15-20 mnute rides around town. Use to be 50 baht.

Casino: Lots of slots. Only a few tables w / dealers. Mainly baccarac and roullette w / 1 BJ table. Free alcohol.

Last time food was also free. Had to pay on this visit.

Ok if you have a problem with picking up freelancers then Laos is not the place for you to monger. There is the few MP's located in hotels and back ally brothels but they are not safe in my books. On the main road there is one bar which is clearly geared for Japanese and Chinese punters. If you have good game you can take one home but be prepared to buy a mountain of lady drinks. They stand behind the bar in a row as well as have the Karaoke rooms upstairs, but these girls are time best in the bar scene similar to BKK. I 100% endorse a bar called At Home. I regularly go here on my Laos trips and never struck out one time. This time was no exception but it was a freebie. Met her outside the club when looking for a ride home. She took on her motorcycle and invited herself in. Very shy at first but after a short nap she warmed up to me and the action began.

Any other recommended spots aside from the usual suspect?

[QUOTE=UlyLee;1649532]Any other recommended spots aside from the usual suspect?[/QUOTE]Anything to report apart from the usual UlyLee.

Be good to get some Vientiane updates. I hope to be there again soon too.

How is BPY these days for example?

My Lao friend brought me again to this local Karaoke bar. This is way far from the riverside area way past the Patuxay Monument. Girls are mostly a 6 but at least not demanding $80-100ST. I got 1 girl asked $50 LT. I even managed to get some BBBJ, but not as good as I would have wanted. But I wasn't expecting it so I guess I should be happy.

I rarely go to BPY and if I do its just to drink, I don't like the quality plus the price they quote. I would rather go to the Karaoke in Mekong Hotel or the massage place in Vientiane Plaza.

Alright fellas,

Wanted to give my long overdue FR. I've had already been to luang prabang and vang vieng, and to be honest, local girls can be had there, for free, just go to the hangouts where there are a lot of foreigners, and there will be local girls who speak a decent amount of english. Same could be said for the capital. However, I wanted to try to hobby here. I don't know why there's this thread, and another one with over 300 posts, I think the threads should be combined, or one of the two should be closed. Regardless, since this is general info about Vientiane, I will post it here. Seems pretty redundant to have two threads covering the same thing. Oh well.

Having read both threads about the dangers, and hazards about mongering in the capital, I was super duper cautious about everything I did. It was my last night there, and I wanted to be with a local girl. I walked around late one night and found a tuk tuk driver offering me boom and drugs. This has been happening to me for awhile now, so I figure this will be my way in. I declined the drugs, but needed him to take me to the ATM. I tried to pull out $400000 kip with a 15000 kip ATM fee, but the machine never dispensed the money. I did it again, and it dispensed the money, but it's been a few weeks later, and my account says I was charged both times. I'm going to try to dispute it when I get back to China, but unfortunately with the corruption in Laos, and the ineptitude of the chinese banks, I may have to say goodbye to that money.

He takes me to some place that's pretty far away, to some sort of hotel. There was another tuktuk driver there, so I assume he was also waiting for a customer. I go into a room, and a few girls starts strolling in. All Laos girls. The first one caught my eye, she was pretty shy, but was staring at me intensely. She was cute and thin, but looked ike she was eye fucking me the whole time as soon as she came into the room. The girl next to her was okay, but not my type. Another girl was pretty cute, and the last girl came in had a tall rocking body, but her face was okay. I asked my driver to which one he liked the best, and it was probably the most uncomfortable situation he's probably ever been in. He was being forced to look at them, choose the prettiest one, and pretty much be responsible for one of his countrymen to be banged by a foreigner. I felt bad, but then again, after the session as you will see, not too bad.

I go to pay the mamasan, and she quotes me 300,000 Kip for short time. 630000 kip for long time. I go with the short time. She takes me into a hotel room. But I made sure to lock and bolt the door just in case cops tried to come in and catch me red handed. I figure this would buy me time to get dressed, which means they can't catch me in the act in doing anything. This may have been paranoid of me, but my driver assures me it was like this a couple of years ago, but not anymore.

She takes a shower by herself, and I take a shower by myself. With cold water. This place is a dump, and the service is already starting to be bad. I'm naked and she grabs my manhood and gives an unimpressive and unmotivated jerk. She doesn't even look at it. Her name is Nang, 23, and from Pakse. When I got a closer look at her, she seemed pretty damn young, and she was this small thing girl. I kept asking her to make sure she was 23, however, it's not like I can verify. Her body does seemed matured though, as she's got some natural Cs. I started to kiss her boobs and kiss her body. But apparently, my beard was bothering her. Not too sure if it really was, or it was just a way for her to stop me from kissing her at all, anywhere. I tried to kiss her on the lips, and she put her hands on her mouth to block me. This biatch. She turns on the TV, and puts the condom on. Tells me to get on top. Wow, this is going to be terrible as I thought to myself, not even a BJ. I get on top, I insert, and she is tight and dry as hell. She's visibly in a lot of pain. I'm trying to go as slow as possible, trying to ease in, so I don't hurt her. But she's not enjoying / liking this at all. It's going to stay dry the whole time, and there was no lube available, and the condom was crap. For 15 minutes I doing my best to not hurt her, and then she just stares at the TV, with whatever show was on to help her overcome the pain.

This is a terrible session, I want it to be over so I can get the hell out of there. I tell her I'm going to cum. And just pound the crap out of her to help me hurry up. Now she starts to enjoy some of it, but still in a lot of pain. I don't care at this point, I'm ending it as fast as I can. I blow my load inside of her in mish. We shower seperately, and I leave. I tell my driver it was a terrible service. Pay him 80000 kip.

It was a sketchy and seedy night. But I wanted a local girl. I can't see Laos as a mongering destination, maybe in 30 years. But it needs to develop, and it has to be more tourist friendly. I can see why no one comes here for that. Actually, not a lot of people come to Laos period, and the country's mindset isn't changing anytime soon. She was one of the worst, if not the worst sex I've ever had up to this point. Definitely in my top two worst, and that really says something as I rarely ever have bad sex.

Oh by the way, rating for Nang:

Face: 7. 5.

Body: 7.

Service: 3. 5.

Dead starfish.

Hi Brothers,

I am visiting Laos for the first time primarily for tourism. I have read this thread and will read all the other threads soon. From the posts, I can figure out that LOD1 is a hotel with WGs on premises. But what is LOD2 and Ti Hao? Are they also hotels with WGs available?

Looks like Vientiane Plaza Hotel is an MP. What about Mekong Hotel? Is it an MP or bar? Thanks.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;1690031]

Looks like Vientiane Plaza Hotel is an MP. What about Mekong Hotel? Is it an MP or bar? Thanks.
[/QUOTE]If you check Agoda or Asia Rooms etc you will see that Vientiane Plaza is a hotel with a separate health clinic (massage) as part of it. Entrance is separate to hotel.

Mekong Hotel (as the name suggests) is a hotel with a rather garish and organized disco-type place on ground level.

Appears to cater for SE Asian and East Asians more than westerners but you can still be lucky if you stick to your routine and don't let the waiters, mamasans or whatever con you.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;1630557]Stayed at La Ong the 1 3 types of rooms. 600/1000/1200 baht. Looked at all 3 types. Only the 1200 baht room was ok.

Back parking area of La Ong the Hotel there were 7 ladies in a 600 baht room all avg looking.

They asked for 2000 baht ST and 3000 LT. Way over priced.

Breakfast at the hotel sucked!!

[/QUOTE]The trouble with the La Ong Dao hotel is that it does not have any ladies during the afternoon or even early evening, when I feel safer moving around Vientiane and am more likely to be sober enough to do the deed and in the mood. Although I normally prefer the brown-skinned ladies, the Vientiane Plaza massage place is better because there is less bullsh1 t even though all the ladies there are Vietnamese and white skinned.

Thanks Brothers, for the updates. Keep 'them coming. Will be in Vientiane in less than a month.

FN.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;1693200]Thanks Brothers, for the updates. Keep 'them coming. Will be in Vientiane in less than a month.

FN.[/QUOTE]Any updates FunMan?

I assume you are there now or have been and gone already?

How was your "tourism" experience?

The Lao thread is a bit slow.

I will be there myself soon and would appreciate some updates.

Went to bar Bor Pen Nyang (4th floor overlooking the night market and river) and spotted some local talent. Approached to speak to one in the bar that could hardly speak any English. She left and ended up near Joy, a 30 sh good looking Lao lady. We sopke some in her limited English and after the usual chit chat she offered "massage and to take good care of me. " When I asked how much she was shy about it and said did not want to discuss money. It was Sunday, I was tired and decided not to take her offer but her phone number instead.

Interchanged some SMS during the week and finally set a time for Saturday afternoon. She came to the Lao Plaza and I was charged 200,000 kip for her to be allowed into my room.

Joy was in a sexy long dress and happy to see me. She had a shower and I waited for her in bed to get a massage. She was quite proficient and I did recieve some good pressure points and arm and leg stretches that helped me unwind some. When I turned over she went for my dick and gave me an ever so gentle and sexy ball and scrotum lick as she applied herself to a sweet and long BBBJ. We then had some good sex and once I came inside her rested, chatted (with the help of Google translate) and played around. We had some beer Lao, ate a cheeseburger and fries and were soon at it again. This time she rode me well and came once. We then changed positions and she came two more times before I exploded inside her for the second time. What an experience, she was giggling nervously as she recovered her breath and kissed me all over in appreciation.

First time with a Lao lady who proved to be gentle, caring and very engaged. Looks: 8, body: 7 (considering she was 37), attitude 10+ She made the bed, tidied up the bathroom and room before she left. When I asked how much, again she said it was up to me. Given the effort and dedication and the fact we were together for around 3 hours I very willingly paid her 800 K kip ($100). She did not count the money, thanked me and left.

Will definitely explore some more after this good experience.

[QUOTE=Man010;1721964]Went to bar Bor Pen Nyang (4th floor overlooking the night market and river) and spotted some local talent. Approached to speak to one in the bar that could hardly speak any English. She left and ended up near Joy, a 30 sh good looking Lao lady. We sopke some in her limited English and after the usual chit chat she offered "massage and to take good care of me. " When I asked how much she was shy about it and said did not want to discuss money. It was Sunday, I was tired and decided not to take her offer but her phone number instead.

Interchanged some SMS during the week and finally set a time for Saturday afternoon. She came to the Lao Plaza and I was charged 200,000 kip for her to be allowed into my room.

< SNIP . >[/QUOTE]Thanks for kicking some life into the Lao thread Man.

I was at BPY on Saturday night and all I saw there were a number of very hard-core hookers and several who may well have been lady-boys. However, there are some diamonds in the rough that can turn up at unexpected times. Happened to me once at around 1230 when I was about to head off back to my hotel.

I think that security at Lao Plaza has managed to get 200,000 kip out of you for their own pockets. I have never heard of this before at Lao Plaza, and most especially during the day. Most hotels have no problems with visitors in rooms during the day and before 10 pm. I think you were taken for a ride. Perhapss you asked if it was OK for her to come to your room instead of just walking in with her.

I know some Japanese guys who regularly bring back girls to Lao Plaza from various karaoke places and nobody bats an eyelid. The 200 K tip for the boys was only $25 usd anyway.

Let's know any other experiences that you have Man. I have been too busy to do much scouting around but next week should be better.

I dropped in to this MP today to see if it had changed from previous visits.

For those who don't know, the Vientiane Plaza Hotel MP is not in the main hotel building but in a separate place adjacent to the front entrance.

They now have a wall chart determining the prices.

60 min steam bath, jacuzzi and massage is 150,000 kip.

40 min steam bath and massage is 80,000 kip.

In the past I chose my therapist from a fishbowl, but today at 3 pm there were only 2 girls sitting in reception and I was assigned a tall attractive Viet from HCM City, who was much better looking than the other girl.

Into the room where she turned on the TV and I took a 10 min steam bath in a small private cubicle within the room which was followed by the wash down and scrub in the tub (not a jacuzzi) and then onto the massage table.

Perfunctory massage, followed by flip and then question what extra I wanted.

She said FS was 500,000 kip. BJ and hand job was 250,000 kip.

This is way above market rates but she said no. That's the prices.

I said I don't want anything extra. I will just go as I don't like your attitude. Her massage was rushed and she was disengaged because she was watching a Vietnamese movie on TV all the time we were together.

She was alarmed at me saying I don't want extra, especially as my todger was standing at attention and she assumed I was past the point of caring. She desperately started re-negotiating but by this time it was too late and I just said no and got dressed.

She had a good body and was attractive in looks but her whole attitude was wrong so I just decided to go.

My advice. When you get to the room, don't allow TV to be turned on.

Negotiate all extras up front before you take off your clothes for the paid massage part, and decide then if you like her attitude or not.

If not, just go back downstairs to reception and either ask for money back or ask for another therapist. My girl was worried I was going to report her to her boss.

I didn't. I just left.

I have had good experiences here before but this time it was disappointing. .

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1722431]Thanks for kicking some life into the Lao thread Man.

I was at BPY on Saturday night and all I saw there were a number of very hard-core hookers and several who may well have been lady-boys. However, there are some diamonds in the rough that can turn up at unexpected times. Happened to me once at around 1230 when I was about to head off back to my hotel.

I think that security at Lao Plaza has managed to get 200,000 kip out of you for their own pockets. I have never heard of this before at Lao Plaza, and most especially during the day. Most hotels have no problems with visitors in rooms during the day and before 10 pm. I think you were taken for a ride. Perhapss you asked if it was OK for her to come to your room instead of just walking in with her.

I know some Japanese guys who regularly bring back girls to Lao Plaza from various karaoke places and nobody bats an eyelid. The 200 K tip for the boys was only $25 usd anyway.

Let's know any other experiences that you have Man. I have been too busy to do much scouting around but next week should be better.[/QUOTE]I am afraid my 200 K did not go to security, Redkilt. I signed a voucher and sure enough it was in my bill.

With this experience, had a mid twenties girl during the week and coordinated so she went directly to my room. Not a problem.

A quick update about the scene in Vientiane.

Things are very quiet here.

I have noted the complete absence of the girls / ladyboys on motorcycles who used to ride alongside you in the evening as you walk to or from your venue and offer massage or just try to get a conversation going. I always ignored them before as I figured it was a classic opportunity for a set-up but this visit there are absolutely none to be seen; I was told by a long-staying expat that it has all been "cleaned up" so that explained my observation. Not sure why the clean-up, or by whom.

Much more affluence apparent in the city too with groups of Lao citizens dining out in the excellent restaurants that have traditionally been the venue of expats and tourists. That's a change from previous visits. Still a heap of tourists and backpackers around too.

I have not had a chance to try the on-line sites but last time I looked they too were quite slim pickings. Even BPY is quiet. Certainly up to around 11.30 pm there has been little evidence of any FLs around. Drop Zone is also quiet.

It would be great if someone else who is here at present could add some updates.

[QUOTE=Man010;1726836]I am afraid my 200 K did not go to security, Redkilt. I signed a voucher and sure enough it was in my bill.

With this experience, had a mid twenties girl during the week and coordinated so she went directly to my room. Not a problem.[/QUOTE]Confirmed. Walked in with a cutie I met at BPY at 11:30 pm and had to stop at reception and sign an invoice for 200 K.

[QUOTE=Man010;1727295]Confirmed. Walked in with a cutie I met at BPY at 11:30 pm and had to stop at reception and sign an invoice for 200 K.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up mate.

It's great that we can have this sort of advice on this forum because circumstances change from time to time.

It's clearly a policy decision by Lao Plaza to add 200 K to your bill, especially when you come in with a companion. I am assuming this is additional to you having booked a "double room?

Are you saying that you avoided the 200 K "mid-week" girl by having her go directly to your room?

Had an interesting experience at BPY last night.

I arrived around 9. 45 pm and decided not to sit at the bar (as I usually do) but took a seat along the wall with the view over the Mekong. I watched the arrivals with interest but nothing took my fancy. There were probably 3 or 4 obvious FLs and another group at the corner of the bar alternating between playing pool and drinking. At around 11 pm as I was deciding to go home I was approached by a well-spoken young gay guy who told me that his friend liked me and wanted to meet me. I asked who was his friend and he pointed towards 2 of the FLs who didn't appeal to me anyway. I asked which one and he said "both of them. You choose. They both like you".

I told him not tonight as I was leaving and maybe another time.

I have never had a pimp approach me before in BPY, so I wondered if it was a new MO. Maybe the 2 girls, both of whom were dressed "provocatively" and looked like hard-core, were actually more shy than I thought.
Alternatively, they might have been reticent to approach me because I wasn't at the bar and so needed someone to scout my intentions as perhaps the management doesn't like girls trawling the tables for customers.

Went to the MP at Vientiane Plaza hotel a few days ago. The price for sauna, Jacuzzi and massage is 130 k on the wall chart, not 150 k as posted below. I had over 15 girls to choose from but at least 5 of them looked [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url], so I went with the oldest (she told me 22 but looked 28). Spent 10 minutes in the sauna, then got washed down in the Jacuzzi, followed by a fairly decent massage. After turning over she didn't offer extras immediately but massaged my chest and head for 10 minutes before touching my dick and and saying boom boom. Wanted 400 k and wouldn't negotiate, but I accepted. The BJ was disappointing, only 1 minute and she didn't seem to like it, then she put the condom on. Damn she was tight and I almost came in one minute from her being on top, but we switched to missionary and I took things slowly, managed about 10 minutes despite her reaching around and playing with my balls from behind to try and make me cum faster. Not a bad session, I might then next week and try a different girl. She told me most of the girls stay there 3 months and it was her this week.

Had 2 experiences with girls from wechat too. I did a location based search and sent about 50 messages to girls within a 1 km radius. Several didn't reply, several turned out to be under 18, some were obviously ladyboys, some blocked me once my intentions became clear. But I ended up with 2 girls looking for casual sex with an American, both of whom had to be smuggled into my hotel with their no guest policy.

First was a 22 year old student who despite saying she didn't want money, asked for money before she left. I gave her 200 k and didn't see her again. She was smoking hot but had a bad attitude and wouldn't even let me cum on her body, had to be inside condom.

Second was a 35 year old MILF who genuinely wanted free sex. She was a little chubby, but a cute face and extremely v kinky. She spent a good half hour rimming my ass before I fucked her back door and gave her a good pounding. We met again the next night and had more fun together.

[QUOTE=Seattle29;1727998]Went to the MP at Vientiane Plaza hotel a few days ago. The price for sauna, Jacuzzi and massage is 130 k on the wall chart, not 150 k as posted below. I had over 15 girls to choose from but at least 5 of them looked so I went with the oldest (she told me 22 but looked 28). Spent 10 minutes in the sauna, then got washed down in the Jacuzzi, followed by a fairly decent massage. After turning over she didn't offer extras immediately but massaged my chest and head for 10 minutes before touching my dick and and saying boom boom. Wanted 400 k and wouldn't negotiate, but I accepted. The BJ was disappointing, only 1 minute and she didn't seem to like it, then she put the condom on. Damn she was tight and I almost came in one minute from her being on top, but we switched to missionary and I took things slowly, managed about 10 minutes despite her reaching around and playing with my balls from behind to try and make me cum faster. Not a bad session, I might then next week and try a different girl. She told me most of the girls stay there 3 months and it was her this week.[/QUOTE]Went there recently & greeted by an attractive Viet who introduced herself as Viv. Some brief negotiations and it was down to 450 k kip which is all I had in my wallet. Led me to a room undressed and she showered me in the jacuzzi / bath in the corner. I declined the steam room as it was ho enough already. I laid on the massage table watching her shower. After shower she comes over & says you want massage I say not really. She begins kissing lightly then into DFK then worked her way down to the old boy who was up for everything. After some BBBJ I told her to turn around resulting in 69 which she was getting into and getting very wet. It wasn't long before I exploded in her mouth & she kept going until there was nothing left. A bit of a cleanup and she is back on the massage table with me chatting and kissing. It wasn't long before I was read to go again & she was eager. Dom on and she mounts me in cowgirl. Pop number 2 done a little chat dressed & bid her farewell. A very enthusiastic performance from Viv.

I was a regular visitor to a non descript MP near Nam Phou, to the left of Scandinavian Bakery, for several months last year. Very good real massage that quickly turned erotic although the talent was nothing special: my go to gal was late 30's, thick around the middle but the first time she had me in the table and asked if I wanted boom boom it was all of 30 seconds before she had the mattress on the floor and her skirt around her ankles. No lie. But it was all very furtive. Upstairs tables separated only by thin curtains, very little English and the foil packet she produced that was supposed to be a condom turned out to be lube. So I turned down FS that time and ended up with an experienced BBBJ wth CIM for the overpriced amount of 400 k. Considering that this included a really good 90 rub down and that I was a weekly visitor who ultimately paid 350 k each visit to have my muscles massaged and my rod hoovered to completion, plus shower and chit chat, it was a very good deal IMHO.

Not cheap and not a stunning Uni gal, but I loved the complete service and the way I was treated. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Chacal60;1732699]I was a regular visitor to a non descript MP near Nam Phou, to the left of Scandinavian Bakery, for several months last year. Very good real massage that quickly turned erotic although the talent was nothing special . . . <SNIP> . . [/QUOTE]I know the place that you mean Chacal.

Never been into that one.

I actually walked past it last weekend and checked it out from the outside but decided not to even go inside.

After your report I will check it out and report the state of play.

Every massage I have had so far (in 3 weeks) has been legit and straight (except for Vientiane Plaza of course) so I will see what happens.

Wish I could remember her name. There was one gal very overweight and another who gave off a LB vibe but came to recognize me and would welcome me in before she'd go get my regular. My regular was no stunner but was probably quite cute in her youth but an outstanding 90 min rubdown and a really fantastic BBBJ with CIM.

She speaks very little English but almost always was there on weekends.

At least one of the gals can sometimes be seen sitting on a bench at a table near the trees. The place is totally not upscale but the service was top notch even if the appearance was not.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1733185]I know the place that you mean Chacal.

Never been into that one.

I actually walked past it last weekend and checked it out from the outside but decided not to even go inside.

After your report I will check it out and report the state of play.

Every massage I have had so far (in 3 weeks) has been legit and straight (except for Vientiane Plaza of course) so I will see what happens.[/QUOTE]

BPY finally came through for me last week.

I had been having a quiet beerlao and an early snack-type dinner at Kop Chai Deu last Friday week and there were 3 women sitting at a table near the entrance totally engrossed in a huge spread of food and didn't seem to be eyeing the crowd at all.

They headed off after a while and I wandered back to my hotel, and then headed to BPY at around 9 pm. Headed to the bar to order a drink and within 20 seconds one of the girls from earlier in the afternoon tugged my arm and said how she had seen me looking at her earlier that afternoon. Clever line but hooked me. She was late 20's; nice figure, killer smile and spoke enough English for us to understand each other. I couldn't see her friends but I suppose they were there somewhere.

After 1 drink and a short chat I established that she was ready and willing; good for short time (which is all I wanted) and, best of all, she was staying in a small hotel 5 minutes from BPY. I was not able to take anyone to my hotel as it had been booked by my company, I have stayed there before and the staff all know me and the work I do. Off we went and a very pleasant 60 minutes or so was spent. She told me she and her 2 gfs were visiting Vientiane from Luang Prabang for the week trying to get some extra cash. 350,000 kip which is a bit over $40 usd. They always start off at 500,000 kip and I always laugh and say "Sorry, not tonight then" and the price soon drops.

Sunday I dropped in again and lo and behold the other 2 girls were there as part of a group at a larger table. One detached herself from her group and came over and the same scenario as before. Her hotel this time; different one but close to the first one) with the same outcome and fee.

Wednesday night I got the hat trick when the 3rd one locked on to me and a similar scenario. She was in same hotel as the 2nd girl, but different room.

In summary: they were definitely not hard-core hookers like some of the skankier ones that hang around the 8-ball table end and play pool. Each one was sweet in their own way; all insisted on condoms which was fine by me as I always use them (although I am speyed). It proved my long-held theory that if you go out planning to find a free-lancer they will be as scarce as rocking horse manure, but if you just go out to have a quiet drink and watch the passing parade it falls into your lap. BPY has rarely been successful for me but in just one week I tapped into a rich vein of opportunity.

I've often eyed some obvious, but reasonably upscale, "non skanky" WGs at KCD. Good place to start the evening, as you reported. I also once had a Beer Lao girl slip me a paper with a note in garbled English on it, but no number and I never found her again. Love Lao!

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1737824]BPY finally came through for me last week.

I had been having a quiet beerlao and an early snack-type dinner at Kop Chai Deu last Friday week and there were 3 women sitting at a table near the entrance totally engrossed in a huge spread of food and didn't seem to be eyeing the crowd at all.

They headed off after a while and I wandered back to my hotel, and then headed to BPY at around 9 pm. Headed to the bar to order a drink and within 20 seconds one of the girls from earlier in the afternoon tugged my arm and said how she had seen me looking at her earlier that afternoon. Clever line but hooked me. She was late 20's; nice figure, killer smile and spoke enough English for us to understand each other. I couldn't see her friends but I suppose they were there somewhere.

After 1 drink and a short chat I established that she was ready and willing; good for short time (which is all I wanted) and, best of all, she was staying in a small hotel 5 minutes from BPY. I was not able to take anyone to my hotel as it had been booked by my company, I have stayed there before and the staff all know me and the work I do..[/QUOTE]

I renewed my 1 year business visa. It cost me more this year to fix it than last year. I guess more and more people are using this to stay long term.

Forgot about this forum and have not posted for a long time. Decided to post on Vientiane. Have been in Vientiane for a month just finished my one month apartment rental, I will be going up north.

I rented a car so I tried to discovered more new places. I went around the usual hotel pick ups a few times, the level is getting worse, but took quite a few of them anyway. Tihow and Sosaphone have raised the ST price to 350 K and over night to 600 K. LOD 1,2, Wonderland, Mekong, stay same 300 K. Tried a few here and there, but all just straight open leg boom boom. No one even close to give any blow job. Chinese customers everywhere, I mean everywhere.

A few times, the tuk tuk drivers took me to many Vietnamese houses, they are scattered all over town, 3-5 ladies in each house, these houses are just ordinary private houses, some disguise as massage shop or salon shop, but many just ordinary houses. Price is chaotic depend the shop mamasan and your bargain skill and tuk tuk's commission. I paid between 250 K to 350 K. Viet girls have a better service.

I found this time there are some local restaurants with girls for take out. They are on the Kamphengmueng road on the right side of town where the trucks pass to avoid the city. Found about at least 6 restaurants with ladies and surprised to see quite a few decent ones. But price quote for LT was from 500 k-600 k. Girls drink with customers in the shops and mamasan always want you to take girls later after 10 PM.

There are still lots of new places popping up outskirt of the city all the time. Lots of small brothels or hotel restaurant brothels with few girls. But this time spent a month, and went through 15 or so ladies, did not have any memorable ones with Lao girl, had 2 nice session with Viet, that's it.

Moving on to the greener territory up north where all my regulars are waiting for me.

Nice reports from your forum. To sum it all up would be a great way to review. Travelling to VTE for Visa run from CNX 3 Aug. Looking at Lao Golden Hotel as accommodation. Any word on if this place is Take Away Service friendly. Does anyone have a better suggestion for hotels allowing female guests ST or LT?

Or is this only a report forum?

[QUOTE=Slick56;1751239]Nice reports from your forum. To sum it all up would be a great way to review. Travelling to VTE for Visa run from CNX 3 Aug. Looking at Lao Golden Hotel as accommodation. Any word on if this place is Take Away Service friendly. Does anyone have a better suggestion for hotels allowing female guests ST or LT?

Or is this only a report forum?[/QUOTE]Lao Golden is a long way away from the center of action Slick. I suggest that you look at hotels nearer to the so-called fountain that appears on maps as "Nam Phu".

Also "That Dam" or the black stupa is also a good reference point.

Look for hotels around that central area along Rue Samsenthai, Rue Setthatirath or Fa Ngum (which is the long road closest to the Mekong), or any of the streets linking between these 3 parallel streets.

I just returned after working in Laos and Thailand, and there are literally 100's of small hotels popping up everywhere. Do a thorough search of Agoda or [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] and pick a place that suits you according to your budget.

It's difficult to predict about GF hotels as every one I have ever stayed in has had signs saying no guests in rooms unless married (ambiguous, I know) but some of these same places turn a blind eye. If you read the forum here you will see some posts about Lao PLaza (a 5-star place) having a joiner fee. Many of the FLs working the few bars, discos etc have their own hotel rooms in cheap places reasonably close to the city center.

Preparing for my maiden voyage to Laos and have been RTFF to get my bearings. Also hitting up girls on the dating apps, seems to be plenty of girls to choose from, as well as lady boys and massage girls.

One girls keeps directing me to a particular hotel, and said she could only see me if I stay there. Did not make much sense until I RTFF more about being against the law to bring Lao girls to your room. Spending a lot of time in Indonesia, the idea of a non-girl friendly hotel is mind boggling haha. The hotel she wants me to stay in is very cheap, so might get a nice place on the company expense and then also get the cheap one just to shag her and others in.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1752542]Preparing for my maiden voyage to Laos and have been RTFF to get my bearings. Also hitting up girls on the dating apps, seems to be plenty of girls to choose from, as well as lady boys and massage girls.

One girls keeps directing me to a particular hotel, and said she could only see me if I stay there. Did not make much sense until I RTFF more about being against the law to bring Lao girls to your room. Spending a lot of time in Indonesia, the idea of a non-girl friendly hotel is mind boggling haha. The hotel she wants me to stay in is very cheap, so might get a nice place on the company expense and then also get the cheap one just to shag her and others in.[/QUOTE]That's a sensible idea CG.

Stay in a nice hotel and use the cheap one for ST.

Many of the girls at Bor Pen Yang who come from out of Vientiane either stay in small, cheaper places not far away from the bar or, if they are tied up with family, they will take you to a cheap place that they know is OK to use.

I am being bussed into Vientiane on a visa run next week and apparently we stay at Daokham Hotel, 2 days and 1 night only. Anybody know if that is girl friendly? And what is the best way to get where some action is, maybe bar Bor Pen Yang or any other suggestions would be great?

Thanks.

TH.

[QUOTE=ThreeHoles;1766016]I am being bussed into Vientiane on a visa run next week and apparently we stay at Daokham Hotel, 2 days and 1 night only. Anybody know if that is girl friendly? And what is the best way to get where some action is, maybe bar Bor Pen Yang or any other suggestions would be great?

Thanks.

TH.[/QUOTE]The hotel will have 2 drivers that hang around all week with private cars. You can hire one of them. They also have the van drivers from the visa run. They will also take a group of you out if you pay for their gas. The hotel officially is not girl friendly. All your visa run mates will see you bringing the girls back or better yet they will do the walk of shame in the morning and everyone will see her exit your room in the AM. Keep in mind it is ileagal to have sex with a Laos girl when you are not married. Off the record, after midnight the hotel staff sleep on the floor in the lobby and you can easily take your guest inside and in the morning she can exit if she goes around 6 AM without being noticed. I have done it on multiple occasions with this same hotel and visa run in the past. I always do my yearly non B visa in Laos.

I have been reading up on the Vientaine thread for an hour or so. Thanks guys for all the details and tips. As my title says. "I have a dilemma. " and I could use some feedback.

I am from California, in Prague now (freak'and crazy fun here), will be in Dubai tomorrow for the week and scheduled to arrive in Vientiane on Saturday (19-22 Sep, maybe longer) and Bangkok through the following week. (28-30th, have not set an exit as of yet).

I feel that I have a different situation (dilemma really) than most and I will briefly explain. Let me say first that I have been in the monger-lifestyle for many years. None of this is new. I have been dating a Lao / Thai girl in Cali for over 2 yrs now and she is freak'and awesome. I am 41 and she is 39. Luckily we both look in our early-to-mid 30's. But, I feel I am at the point that I need to get serious or let her go. At our age, it's not fare for her if I continue without a full commitment. My trouble is that I can't make a decision until I see Laos and Thailand and experience other beautiful Lao and Thai women. This is selfish (hopefully you guys get this), but I know myself and if I don't get this out of my system, I will always have it in my head.

I have built a small summary of where to go to eat, night life, massage, etc. (again, chats were a big help) If you have any direct contacts in (or your are in) Vientaine or Bangkok and can get together please read out and let me know. I do need confirmation on where to stay in Vientaine. Small hotel near BPY or should I pay more for Lao or Vientaine Plaza Hotel, and if so, why?

I look forward to hearing back.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Ducati32;1774141]

My trouble is that I can't make a decision until I see Laos and Thailand and experience other beautiful Lao and Thai women. This is selfish (hopefully you guys get this), but I know myself and if I don't get this out of my system, I will always have it in my head.

I have built a small summary of where to go to eat, night life, massage, etc. (again, chats were a big help) If you have any direct contacts in (or your are in) Vientaine or Bangkok and can get together please read out and let me know. I do need confirmation on where to stay in Vientaine. Small hotel near BPY or should I pay more for Lao or Vientaine Plaza Hotel, and if so, why? [/QUOTE] It seems you are putting Laos and Thailand into a similar box and treating them as though they are the same. They are very very different and you will soon realize that factor when you visit. Thailand is much "simpler" and has a definite "red light area" and so you will experience Thai women much more easily than you will Lao women.

If you have done your homework, you should have a good idea about your plan of attack in Vientiane. Small hotels near BPY are more accepting of girls in the premises. Inter-city hotel is next door to BPY and is GF. Vientiane Plaza is further away from BPY (but still a pleasant walk) and has the advantage of a massage place with a fishbowl and FS. Lao Plaza is another class up and some guys have found they needed to pay a joiner fee. Security is more strict and obvious at Lao Plaza.

Hope this helps with Vientiane.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1774233]If you have done your homework, you should have a good idea about your plan of attack in Vientiane. Small hotels near BPY are more accepting of girls in the premises. Inter-city hotel is next door to BPY and is GF. Vientiane Plaza is further away from BPY (but still a pleasant walk) and has the advantage of a massage place with a fishbowl and FS. Lao Plaza is another class up and some guys have found they needed to pay a joiner fee. Security is more strict and obvious at Lao Plaza.

Hope this helps with Vientiane.[/QUOTE]RK,

Rare I am on this thread but Ducati was called out in the UAE forum yesterday for 6 FRs and 6 questions and no contribution. Maybe he has changed his tack and says he has RTFF (I doubt) but I questioned him on Prague as I know that well and no reply, others (eg Khundig) also but nothing from them either for Dubai.

You I now are kinder hearted than me though so am sure he will appreciate. Have PMed you.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1774324]RK,

Rare I am on this thread but Ducati was called out in the UAE forum yesterday for 6 FRs and 6 questions and no contribution. Maybe he has changed his tack and says he has RTFF (I doubt) but I questioned him on Prague as I know that well and no reply, others (eg Khundig) also but nothing from them either for Dubai.

You I now are kinder hearted than me though so am sure he will appreciate. Have PMed you.[/QUOTE]Terribly sorry guys! My disappearance was due to UAE extension blocking. I tried multiple VPN's to get around it with no luck. I originally posted while in Prague and left for Dubai shortly after. I just arrived to the hotel in Bangkok and was able to log-in. I am definitely not the "take-only" type. I will go backwards in the thread and add replies today.

Again, sorry for the technical difficulty!

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1774233]It seems you are putting Laos and Thailand into a similar box and treating them as though they are the same. They are very very different and you will soon realize that factor when you visit. Thailand is much "simpler" and has a definite "red light area" and so you will experience Thai women much more easily than you will Lao women.

If you have done your homework, you should have a good idea about your plan of attack in Vientiane. Small hotels near BPY are more accepting of girls in the premises. Inter-city hotel is next door to BPY and is GF. Vientiane Plaza is further away from BPY (but still a pleasant walk) and has the advantage of a massage place with a fishbowl and FS. Lao Plaza is another class up and some guys have found they needed to pay a joiner fee. Security is more strict and obvious at Lao Plaza.

Hope this helps with Vientiane.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response RK. Respectfully, I do understand the difference in the cultures from being in her family / friends circle for the past couple of years. Although this is my first trip to Thailand and Laos, I have researched Laos enough to see the differences and from stories and other sources I feel I have a pretty good idea of the simplicity in BKK.

My post was motivated to experience Vientiane as accurately as possible because I was planning to be there this afternoon. My friend and I decided at the airport in Dubai to move Laos to later this week and stay in BKK for the weekend. So we changed out flight schedule. We are in BKK now and I will not ask blindly "what to do", before taking some time and researching pasted threads specific to BKK. But, if there are any simple cut-and-pastes you can do, it would save a bit of time.

You communication is much appreciated! I look forward to dipping back into the thread with my contributions.

[QUOTE=Ducati32;1775868]

You communication is much appreciated! I look forward to dipping back into the thread with my contributions.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, you really will not appreciate Thailand or Laos fully nor the similarities and differences between them until you have actually been there "on the ground".

We are all looking forward to hearing about your experiences and to learn how severe was the "culture shock".

Hi everybody.

I m looking for Cheap brother low cost in Vientiane, with Lao and Vietnam girls, young, beautiful.

Price 300-600 THB.

Very bad since crackdown brothel in Udon Thani.

P.S. I know Lao Daong Hotel but about 1000-1200ST.

Thanks so much for your adress and advice.

Muss

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1777648]With all due respect, you really will not appreciate Thailand or Laos fully nor the similarities and differences between them until you have actually been there "on the ground".

We are all looking forward to hearing about your experiences and to learn how severe was the "culture shock".[/QUOTE]Hello Everybody,

I am looking for some brothels place in Vientiane, brothel low cost price for popular and local customer, price 300-600 THB.

It s very boring since they close brother in Udon Thani.

Thank you for your adress and advice.

The centre of the Cty is essentially p4 p dead. No FLs hawking their wares round the Fountain, now the victim of 'progress. ' The well worn routes of the past are barrenaand bereft of talent. BPY was deserted apart from two aged hookers. And a tourist free zone.

I will investigate the less obvious MPs this evening.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1799202]The centre of the Cty is essentially p4 p dead. [/QUOTE]I am not a night owl but (I) one scrawny FL in the centre at 8,00 pm was all I saw and (ii) Samlo dead until 10.0 pm (she said) sums it up.

I had a massage off a side street. Be prepared for complicated negotations on the numbers on a 'phone. As best I understand it Kip100,000 (after "2. 5" on the 'phone mesning Kip 25,000) gets you a HL and fondle up a push-up bra and fondle. No topless. In case there is a raid-.

Since my last visit the nice ladies who used to offer to take me for a ride on their scooters from around the Fountain have gone; the many MPs where at least a discrete HJ was available are generally legit to the point of being asexual; BPY, apart from one lady, probably high on yaba, who openly flirted with me in front of her custome, is dead; other bars of the past are equally moribund.

Back to Bangkok me thinks.

The many MPs are hit and miss as far as extras are concerned and I suspect what you get offered also depends on the lady. At one the towel was pushed so tightly into my tackle it almost hurt so the lady avoided any sight or skin contact; at another a HJ was obviously available when the lady didn't even bother with the towel and massaged the tackle from the start. However she refused to go topless and I decided to save on the HJ.

But which to chose? Certainly not those with uniforms. But a T-shirt might help accessability!

Around the Night Market there are a number of FLs. Approach discretely and maybe you get a "where you go?

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1801131]The many MPs are hit and miss as far as extras are concerned and I suspect what you get offered also depends on the lady. At one the towel was pushed so tightly into my tackle it almost hurt so the lady avoided any sight or skin contact; at another a HJ was obviously available when the lady didn't even bother with the towel and massaged the tackle from the start. However she refused to go topless and I decided to save on the HJ. [/QUOTE]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. Massage prices are displayed on a board at reception. At busy times there is a "fishbowl" but other times the girls are sitting around in the lobby / reception area doing cross stitch or checking their phones.

Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.[/QUOTE]Could advise the going rate for quality FS at the health club? Visa run this week and wanting to sample the local talent.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. [/QUOTE]Definitely is not a hit or miss place, although your girl might be. Had one earlier who was a full miss, as in there wasn't even a shot to hit her with. On the bright side, she was hot, friendly (in everything but the sex), and she really worked hard at trying to make me cum with HJ, even gave me about 10 extra minutes, but not to much point. 400 thousand kip for "boom boom" that went on for about 10 minutes before she started complaining about being hurt, and slipped off the condom before I could protest, and started in with HJ. She really tried, I'll give her that, but lack of technique and a less than pleasant attitude about it just didn't do a thing for me, so I told her to stop and just ended the session a little over time, after she went on for a lot longer than it should have taken. The problem wasn't performance--she kept calling me "superman" for how long I was lasting--but just a total absence of chemistry with all of her "no" this and "no" that. No DATY, no fingering, no nipple-sucking, bla bla. Maybe MPs aren't my thing, hope they're yours. Just pay at the end like the girls in Thailand let you do, in case there's any problem.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. Massage prices are displayed on a board at reception. At busy times there is a "fishbowl" but other times the girls are sitting around in the lobby / reception area doing cross stitch or checking their phones.

Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.[/QUOTE]Didn't have time to try th V Plaza Hotel.

Next to the Scandanavian Bakery is an MP where everything is viable from cetain girls. In fact on looking over my notes in most MPs some extras are available (except where the girls wear uniforms) but much depends on the whims of each lady. I made a point of going for T-shirts as accesss is easier. Nothing is certain!

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1802505]
Next to the Scandanavian Bakery is an MP where everything is viable from certain girls. In fact on looking over my notes in most MPs some extras are available (except where the girls wear uniforms) but much depends on the whims of each lady. I made a point of going for T-shirts as accesss is easier. Nothing is certain![/QUOTE]I know the MP that you mean next to Scandinavian Bakery and it looks a bit seedy from the outside.

I tried it once after a tip from a PM received here and unfortunately it was busy and there was nobody available when I called. Not sure how big it is or how many girls they have "on call". The receptionist was most anxious that I either waited or returned but I did neither. I will put it on my list for my forthcoming visit.

My experience with MPs in most streets around Vientiane (including those along Pankham Rd leading up to Nam Phu (the fountain) is that they all have the mattresses on the floor in a large "common room" with the bays separated by flimsy curtains, so you know immediately that it's going to be a standard massage with zero extras. Nevertheless, I have had some outstanding massages from some of the girls in these places even if the "ending" was not what we sometimes would prefer. Sometimes I just want a good massage.

I finally return to Vientiane after my first trip 3 years ago. How things have changed! You see a lot more Koreans, Singaporean and Chinese punters in town. And that usually signal the bump in price. Note: We prefer to pay for comfort (but not overpay for WG) so this trip is on a nicer side.

When I was here 3 years ago, it was a lot more difficult to find hotel that accept WG 'guest'. Now more hotels do. I use similar rule-of-thumb as that in Vietnam. 3 stars and below. 5 stars especially if they're part of int'l chains, a no-no.

Tips: For general local transaction like food, KIP is best currency to use. For hobby transaction, THB is ironically the best currency to use from exchange rate standpoint.

Tried to book the best 3 stars possible. Bro in another forum suggested Season Hotel as it's one of the newer 3 stars property. Booked for about $50 USD / night. Good location but lousy service. Luckily I hedged by booking another property (part of Day 2 report). Through same bro, I made arrangement with private driver with specific request, we prefer night activity so they can start the day later but need to stick around till around midnight. It cost us 2,000 THB all-in (incl gas, car, driver, 8-12 hours of driver's time each day). When I was here, those tuk-tuk and other transport charge us 3-4 times over local and we really have no choice. Don't want to waste time and mood going through that exercise every time we need to go somewhere.

Driver picked our party up at airport. He even provide me local phone / SIM although we prefer buying our own local SIM because we need to use our personal smartphone. Chose $7 USD package from Unitel that gives us 10 min call time and 450 mb data over 3 G.

Checked-in to hotel which was around 15 min from airport. Grab quick meal at restaurant (Makphet) next door, highly rated on Tripadvisor. Made calls to local WG but no reply (her LINE profile said she already had BF so this could explain no response). Called local talent agent and gave our spec. Received photos via LINE with profile: 18 yo just finished high school. Look-wise didn't jump out to us. But definitely seemed fresh. However, quoted price of 5000 THB is a no-no.

Drivers of course know the scene. So had him take us to first place. A hotel with room of about 10 WG. 1500 THB one-shot on premise or 3000 THB overnight (used to be 2000 THB my last trip. Damn those aforementioned punters for raising to price). A lot of fresh young thing. But decided to move on and see more. The papasan spoke to us. Said he has higher quality for higher price he can call. Gave him driver's number and told him to call.

We made our way to second hotel. I believe this one is called Chokchai. Similar setup with about 15 WGs. Nicer quality. Saw couple which we think we can go for. Got call from papasan that he has 2 and for us to come-see. Meanwhile, 5-6 other punters rolled in. Decided to take what we thought was the best one there with us. 3000 THB overnight which we had to pay upfront.

To be continued.

We paid 3000 THB to the house (we asked how much in KIP and we lost 15-20% on exchange if we use that currency) for one and went to meet previous papasan. When we met him, the two WG he brought recognized me. They came from the same place we were at! Of course we had to pay 2000 THB premium going through this papasan. We quickly realized that this place is the source of upper middle range WG distribution.

TIP: Go to Chokchai, the source and save yourself money.

We went to dinner with the one WG we chose in tow. As was my experience before, she has very good attitude. It helps if you speak Thai because Laotian can understand Thai and visa vis. English and other language will vary by mileage. The whole experience felt pretty GFE. Since I'd been to Laos before I gave the girl to my buddy while I go to sleep alone as I'm too lazy / tired to follow-up on other leads. Preferring to do this next day.

How was the experience when it comes to sex? From technical standpoint, the girl was more of a receiver type since she doesn't really know how to please the man. So don't expect any advance foreplay from this one (or most likely her peers I would imagine). However, if you're a DYI type she's responsive. Clean pussy that gets wet very quickly with the right stimulation. Responded well overall.

Continue Day 2 report (coming soon).

Thanks for the posts Ecci.

I take it there was no problem with taking a WG into your hotel?

Was she Lao? My understanding is that it's illegal for a Lao girl to be with a foreigner.

I've googled Chokchai, but cannot find anything on it? Whereabouts in town is it?

(I'm currently in Vientiane and would be very interested in visiting the place).

[QUOTE=Ecchi;1811664]
TIP: Go to Chokchai, the source and save yourself money.
[/QUOTE]Can you provide more details re Chokchai. Didn't find anything when I google searched. Or pm me if you don't want to post.

[QUOTE=OldMonga;1812033]

I take it there was no problem with taking a WG into your hotel?

Was she Lao? My understanding is that it's illegal for a Lao girl to be with a foreigner.
[/QUOTE]It's flexible. Some hotels display a sign at the check in counter saying that guests are not allowed in rooms unless married. It always makes me laugh because of the ambiguity (married to whom?)

The sign is to cover their tails. Many (most) nowadays turn a blind eye to it, but sometimes it depends on the security guy or the clerk on duty.

There have been reports of scams too where the clerk calls up the local police and they knock on your door and expect some payment to go away (and the clerk gets a cut), but it's all vague reports, and I have never met any victim of such a scam. I can't imagine hotels wanting to alienate guests in this way.

Read back through 2 or 3 pages on this forum and you will see various comments about gf hotels

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1812159]Can you provide more details re Chokchai. Didn't find anything when I google searched. Or pm me if you don't want to post.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing it's fairly famous among local drivers so I would try asking them? It's Chokchai Hotel ground I believe. Otherwise, I can't give you much direction beyond that since I was lead to the courtyard area where these rooms are located.

[QUOTE=OldMonga;1812033]Thanks for the posts Ecci.

I take it there was no problem with taking a WG into your hotel?

Was she Lao? My understanding is that it's illegal for a Lao girl to be with a foreigner.

I've googled Chokchai, but cannot find anything on it? Whereabouts in town is it?

(I'm currently in Vientiane and would be very interested in visiting the place).[/QUOTE]If I'd recalled, it's not that far off from the Patuxai area. That's all I know. I think you need to find it using native language since the word is also common in Thai language.

Hotel friendly-wise, it used to be way more strict when I first visited 3-4 years back. Now, I believe in my rule-of-thumb mentioned, go for 3 stars hotel or below to be safe.

[QUOTE=Ecchi;1812847]If I'd recalled, it's not that far off from the Patuxai area. That's all I know. I think you need to find it using native language since the word is also common in Thai language.

Hotel friendly-wise, it used to be way more strict when I first visited 3-4 years back. Now, I believe in my rule-of-thumb mentioned, go for 3 stars hotel or below to be safe.[/QUOTE]OK, I asked a tuk tuk driver, and after repeating the name Chokchai a few times he suddenly said "Ah, the place with the girls" and off we went.

Assuming he took me to the right place, it is behind The Sokxayphone Hotel on Asean Road.

Take the lane way to the right of the hotel, go past the Karaoke Bar on the right and the place is then on your left (in other words, behind the hotel itself). Its sign says it's also a Karaoke Bar but as soon as you enter you can see it is not).

I was there about 9 pm today, about 6-8 WGs ranging in age from two teenagers to a few that looked around 30. A couple of very good looking ones.

There were two mamasans, and they wouldn't budge from the prices of 500 K KIP for short time and 750 K for long time. So I passed at those prices.

Leaving in the morning for a few days in Vang Vieng and then on to Luang Prabang, so I'll post in the relevant forums for those places in due course.

[QUOTE=OldMonga;1813497]OK, I asked a tuk tuk driver, and after repeating the name Chokchai a few times he suddenly said "Ah, the place with the girls" and off we went.

Assuming he took me to the right place, it is behind The Sokxayphone Hotel on Asean Road.

Take the lane way to the right of the hotel, go past the Karaoke Bar on the right and the place is then on your left (in other words, behind the hotel itself). Its sign says it's also a Karaoke Bar but as soon as you enter you can see it is not).

I was there about 9 pm today, about 6-8 WGs ranging in age from two teenagers to a few that looked around 30. A couple of very good looking ones.

There were two mamasans, and they wouldn't budge from the prices of 500 K KIP for short time and 750 K for long time. So I passed at those prices.

Leaving in the morning for a few days in Vang Vieng and then on to Luang Prabang, so I'll post in the relevant forums for those places in due course.[/QUOTE]This was amazing place with many very cute girls. I took two out over two nights for 3000 THB each. Did not do any ST. It was a little hard to find the first time as the tuk-tuk driver did not know where, so I took a screen shot of the location on my iphone for all. The directions above of what to do when you get there are perfect.

Lots of tourists and large tour groups around Vientiane right now ranging from grey-nomad bus tour groups to untidy, unkempt backpackers whose body odors either precede or follow them depending on wind direction.

Dropped in to Bor Pen Yang Friday night.

Same tired professional hookers playing pool or hovering on the edge near the pool players.

Refreshing to see some fresh new faces around the bar though. It seems that they don't speak or understand much English and need their (usually) ugly friends to translate for them.

Still a large collection of tall, shapely lady boys "manning" the intersections along Rue Setthathirath (just west of Joma's / Kop Chai Deu). No problem in identifying them as although most have incredible bodies they show all the unmistakable exaggerated signs of lady-boy behavior. There are still a few lady-boys on motorbikes who offer massage as they cruise slowly by on their bikes, but authorities seem to have removed many of them who were common on previous visits.

I have had no time yet to check out any of the discos, live bands or massage places, and my need to fly under the radar will prevent me from visiting any of the places out of the city proper mentioned in earlier posts .
Reports of any interest will follow. If anyone is in VTE now you can PM me if you wish and we can share some stories over a quiet drink.

Saturday afternoon and I visited one of the massage places in the area around NamPhu (the fountain). I will not identify the exact location on the open board as I don't want the authorities giving them any problems. There are periodic crack-downs on all these places. Full details are available if you PM me.

There were no customers in the large room, with around 6 mattresses on the floor separated by reasonably thick curtains so I did not have high expectations of anything other than a massage given the open plan (I had good intel that all sorts of action is available there).

I opted for the traditional Lao massage (1 hour for 40,000 kip). My masseuse was maybe 30 yo with a reasonable body and promising boobs lurking under the sweater (it's quite cool here at the moment). I changed into the loose fitting baggy shorts they usually provide and away we went on a normal massage, with careful avoidance of the groin area so I assumed it was a normal massage.

At the 45 minute mark the woman surprised me by suddenly tapping my dick and asking if I wanted massage there too. I said OK and she wanted 400,000 kip for HJ. I thought that was more of a FS price so I said 250,000. We eventually agreed on 300,000 kip which is still a little more than a similar service in the Philippines (where I currently live). She agreed to 300,000 and went outside and got a warm towel.

Very sensuous massage and stroking of the area and then she said we can have boom-boom for 400,000. She wasn't attractive enough for me to consider FS so I said no we just continue as planned. She got me hard with her hand and then surprised me by giving me an excellent uncovered blow job with a CIM finish. She never missed a drop and swallowed it all.

So there's another venue in the center of town for massage with extras. Next time I would like to see if there are other younger girls available and if so I might avail of the FS option although I don't know how that would go down if there were other clients in the room behind the other curtains.

Sounds like my go-to shop from a year or so back. I went nearly every Sunday and the same MILF gave a great massage with oral to completion, CIM. First visit however was a shock: after negotiating price, she threw the mat on he floor and began to pull her skirt down. I wasn't attracted nearly enough to FS but she gave expert oral.

Convenient baked goods nearby, right?

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1832149]Saturday afternoon and I visited one of the massage places in the area around NamPhu (the fountain). I will not identify the exact location on the open board as I don't want the authorities giving them any problems. There are periodic crack-downs on all these places. Full details are available if you PM me.

There were no customers in the large room, with around 6 mattresses on the floor separated by reasonably thick curtains so I did not have high expectations of anything other than a massage given the open plan (I had good intel that all sorts of action is available there).

I opted for the traditional Lao massage (1 hour for 40,000 kip). My masseuse was maybe 30 yo with a reasonable body and promising boobs lurking under the sweater (it's quite cool here at the moment). I changed into the loose fitting baggy shorts they usually provide and away we went on a normal massage, with careful avoidance of the groin area so I assumed it was a normal massage..[/QUOTE]

Last Christmass holiday I travelled from Vientiane via Vang Vienh to Luang Prabang.

I confirm that in Vientiaene around the Nam Phu Fountain and the surrounding streets there are many massage places.

Offering more then just a massage.

Same in VangVienh. Due to the outdoor activities here, massage is booming. Some of them offer more.

Also Luang Prabang. If you will have more its a bit more difficult to find but some of them along the riverside offer.

I'm heading to Luang Prabang and Vientiane for a short trip next week. Anyone else on this forum going to be there? Would be great to meet up and check out the Chicken Farm together! PM me.

P.S. - sorry for posting in both this forum and "Other Areas", but since I was going to both VT and LP, I figured I would post in both.

Is there any friend still in Vientiane?

I'm now going there and would like to get more information about local chicken farm rather than hotel pickup like la Ong Dao.

Is there any specific information about chicken farm in Vientiane that may not be inside city?

Thanks for sharing!

Before arriving in Vientiane, I had three women in Vietnam, two that were determined to snuff out all satisfaction and one that was very, very good. Today at VTP massage, I chose another Vietnamese from about 10 ladies at 3 pm. She was a solid 7 in her early 30's, although the big boobs that pulled me in turned out to be a testament to superb bra engineering. I agreed with mamasan for 60 min of "everything" for 530 k, the going rate. What I got was a utilitarian massage, vigorous HJ, CBJ, and a vehement refusal on DATY while she tried to mount my limp dick in CG. I called foul, dressed, and told mamasan either I get that full service with another lady or 400 k back. I left with my money and the phenomenal realization that in just six days, I'll be back in Thailand. I am older American with no foreign language skills so YMMV; at least, I hope so.

[QUOTE=Canick1;1860530]Before arriving in Vientiane, I had three women in Vietnam, two that were determined to snuff out all satisfaction and one that was very, very good. Today at VTP massage, I chose another Vietnamese from about 10 ladies at 3 pm. She was a solid 7 in her early 30's, although the big boobs that pulled me in turned out to be a testament to superb bra engineering. I agreed with mamasan for 60 min of "everything" for 530 k, the going rate. What I got was a utilitarian massage, vigorous HJ, CBJ, and a vehement refusal on DATY while she tried to mount my limp dick in CG. I called foul, dressed, and told mamasan either I get that full service with another lady or 400 k back. I left with my money and the phenomenal realization that in just six days, I'll be back in Thailand. I am older American with no foreign language skills so YMMV; at least, I hope so.[/QUOTE]Bad luck Canick.

If you go back to Post #82 you will see some discussion about "hit or miss" massages in Vientiane, and the general consensus is that there are more "hits" than "misses" at VTP.

You did well to get the 400,000 kip back though. Doing that might make the mamasans pay more attention to what's going on.

Hi everyone,

I'm new on this forum. I went to Vientiane two years ago and soon I will be there again. When I was there I went in two underground brothel. The tuk tuk drivers took me there. I paid 1300 bat for lady and room, but the ladies was very untrained and shy, and gave me a bad services. Who can give me some advice for find some brothel or massage shop where at least I'm sure to have a blowjob? Before every ladies refused to make blowjobs.

[QUOTE=Banny76;1882696]Hi everyone,

I'm new on this forum. I went to Vientiane two years ago and soon I will be there again. When I was there I went in two underground brothel. The tuk tuk drivers took me there. I paid 1300 bat for lady and room, but the ladies was very untrained and shy, and gave me a bad services. Who can give me some advice for find some brothel or massage shop where at least I'm sure to have a blowjob? Before every ladies refused to make blowjobs.[/QUOTE]You are not going to get that information on the open board Banny.

You need to join the site by paying $25 so that you can receive private messages (PMs).

You cannot receive PMs unless you're a member.

By definition, underground places operate outside the law. Services like this are illegal.

There are several massage places that are very "normal" on the surface but they will offer lots of extras once they know you are a genuine customer. I an maybe others would share the names of these places by PM only.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1885610]You are not going to get that information on the open board Banny.

You need to join the site by paying $25 so that you can receive private messages (PMs).

You cannot receive PMs unless you're a member.

By definition, underground places operate outside the law. Services like this are illegal.

There are several massage places that are very "normal" on the surface but they will offer lots of extras once they know you are a genuine customer. I an maybe others would share the names of these places by PM only.[/QUOTE]I doubt that the Laotian police need to go to a foreigner's website to track illegal activity in their own backyards. That a foreigners knowledge of Laos is very weak is a matter which is beyond debate. The police who live, grew up in Laos, and speak the language will not need to consult ISG to find where the action is. Let's give them more credit than that and let's not give ourselves credit for knowing more than the average man in the street in Vientiane. When I was in Laos the action pretty much in the open but discreet and not in your face.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1886840]I doubt that the Laotian police need to go to a foreigner's website to track illegal activity in their own backyards. That a foreigners knowledge of Laos is very weak is a matter which is beyond debate. The police who live, grew up in Laos, and speak the language will not need to consult ISG to find where the action is. Let's give them more credit than that and let's not give ourselves credit for knowing more than the average man in the street in Vientiane. When I was in Laos the action pretty much in the open but discreet and not in your face.[/QUOTE]Your post may not be entirely true, the reason being LE is always looking for the most viable and known establishments and keep an eye on them if a smaller proprietor is introduced to the general public it becomes somewhat of a problem, the advent of a new proprietor that is catering to foreigners may or may not pay for the luxury of entertaining foreigners and taking away business from one of the better known proprietors which can be run by generals or other extremely connected individuals. So yes LE is well aware of all of these establishments in fact they are in a lot of cases run by LE, however they need to know if foreigners are frequenting establishments that are not kicking up large enough bribes or are not connected to the LE itself. So if a local connected to one of the mafia run establishments has a tip on another place frequented by foreigners and this site confirms that information it could then be used to strengthen the mafia monopoly via legal or not so legal means. You seem to post in the Philippines but Phils and Laos are two different animals entirely. In Laos the only thing that matters is foreigner perception of propriety do a search for Laos Porn and Philippines girl porn. You have a lot to learn about mongering in such destinations. You have some grave misconceptions of how and why LE does and doesn't act on some brothels.

Red Kilt's reticence is warranted in in this case.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1886840]Let's give them more credit than that and let's not give ourselves credit for knowing more than the average man in the street in Vientiane.[/QUOTE]"Relationships with Lao Citizens: Lao law prohibits sexual contact between foreign citizens and Lao nationals except when the two parties have been married in accordance with Lao Family Law. Any foreigner who enters into a sexual relationship with a Lao national risks being interrogated, detained, arrested, or fined. Lao police have confiscated passports and imposed fines of up to 5,000 USD on foreigners who enter into unapproved sexual relationships. The Lao party to the relationship may be jailed without trial. Foreigners are not permitted to invite Lao nationals of the opposite sex to their hotel rooms; police may raid hotel rooms without notice or consent.

If you plan to marry a Lao national, you are required by Lao law to obtain prior permission from the Lao government. The formal application process can take as long as a year. You can obtain information about these requirements from the USA Embassy in Vientiane. The Lao government will not issue a marriage certificate unless the correct procedures are followed. Any attempt to circumvent Lao regulations may result in arrest, imprisonment, a fine of 500–5,000 USD and deportation. If you cohabit with or enter into a close relationship with a Lao national, you may be accused by Lao authorities of entering into an illegal marriage and be subject to these same penalties. If you wish to become engaged to a Lao national, you must also obtain prior permission from the chief of the village where the Lao national resides. Failure to obtain prior permission can result in a fine of 500–5,000 USD. Lao police may impose a large fine on a foreign citizen a few days after he or she holds an engagement ceremony with a Lao citizen based on the suspicion that the couple subsequently had sexual relations out of wedlock."

Straight from the US state department, China and Vietnam I know have a cohabitation law as well and I know it is also enforced on occasion in China. But Laos is a special case and the reason why it gets such a large excerpt on the state departments website. The Lao police cannot easily convict a brothel if two Lao citizens are in a room but a foreigner and a Laos girl is automatically a crime and is a jackpot for the police if the brothel is not protected. That is the reason why information is sparse on Laos and the popular places stay popular and the underground places tay underground in Laos specifically.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;1886916]<SNIP> The Lao police cannot easily convict a brothel if two Lao citizens are in a room but a foreigner and a Laos girl is automatically a crime and is a jackpot for the police if the brothel is not protected. That is the reason why information is sparse on Laos and the popular places stay popular and the underground places tay underground in Laos specifically.[/QUOTE]Thanks MM. You just reinforced my earlier post when I said that it it better to keep specific details OFF this open board. I suspect Pompetus is assuming Lao PDR is similar to other mongering destinations when we all know that it's not.

I have discussed law & order issues with massage shop managers and I disagree that Lao LE knows everything about what goes on everywhere, but there is no way any disagreements can be easily resolved either.

Thus my suggestion to be discreet about everything in Lao PDR, and when in doubt, go home alone.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1887864]Thanks MM. You just reinforced my earlier post when I said that it it better to keep specific details OFF this open board. I suspect Pompetus is assuming Lao PDR is similar to other mongering. Thus my suggestion to be discreet about everything in Lao PDR, and when in doubt, go home alone.[/QUOTE]If the cops in Laos want to pierce the veil of secrecy on the ISG, all they would have to is to impersonate a monger and become a senior member on ISG. They would then be able to get PM's and learn about all those places that Mr. Kilt wants us to be discreet about. Becoming a senior member can be done either by paying money or by making a certain number of posts which would automatically qualify him as a senior. If Laotian police are seriously intent on obtaining info from ISG members because they lack intel of their own, (which is patently absurd) then this would be an obvious plan.

Next, all of you should consult the blog for sillyporean mongers who plainly state info on the internet about farms and other interesting locations around Vientiane.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;1886916]"Relationships with Lao Citizens: Lao law prohibits sexual contact between foreign citizens and Lao nationals except when the two parties have been married in accordance with Lao Family Law. Any foreigner who enters into a sexual relationship with a Lao national risks being interrogated, detained, arrested, or fined. Lao police have confiscated passports and imposed fines of up to 5,000 USD on foreigners who enter into unapproved sexual relationships. Etc etc etc.
Straight from the US state department.[/QUOTE]Every couple of years someone on ISG trots out this boilerplate from USDoS. But according to long term expats whom I have canvassed in Laos, this is only rarely enforced and only in those instances when some foreigner has done something egregious like living with three Lao women and fathering children with them.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;1886906]Your post may not be entirely true, the reason being LE is always looking for the most viable and known establishments and keep an eye on them if a smaller proprietor is introduced to the general public it becomes somewhat of a problem, the advent of a new proprietor that is catering to foreigners may or may not pay for the luxury of entertaining foreigners and taking away business from one of the better known proprietors which can be run by generals or other extremely connected individuals. So yes LE is well aware of all of these establishments in fact they are in a lot of cases run by LE, however they need to know if foreigners are frequenting establishments that are not kicking up large enough bribes or are not connected to the LE itself. So if a local connected to one of the mafia run establishments has a tip on another place frequented by foreigners and this site confirms that information it could then be used to strengthen the mafia monopoly via legal or not so legal means. You seem to post in the Philippines but Phils and Laos are two different animals entirely. In Laos the only thing that matters is foreigner perception of propriety do a search for Laos Porn and Philippines girl porn. You have a lot to learn about mongering in such destinations. You have some grave misconceptions of how and why LE does and doesn't act on some brothels. Red Kilt's reticence is warranted in in this case.[/QUOTE]Would you please advise the source of your knowledge? Quite frankly, what you have posted appears to be complete speculation: Laotian mafia, and stating authoritatively that they receive tips and verify them by consulting ISG. Let's get real. As far as establishing my experience in SE Asia, all you have relied on is the scope of my posts on ISG. How can you base your conclusions about where I have been and what I have done based on that? If that is the quality of your research on me then it speaks reams about the reliability of what you have posted regarding the reliability of your posts on Laos.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1888705]If the cops in Laos want to pierce the veil of secrecy on the ISG, all they would have to is to impersonate a monger and become a senior member on ISG. They would then be able to get PM's and learn about all those places that Mr. Kilt wants us to be discreet about. Becoming a senior member can be done either by paying money or by making a certain number of posts which would automatically qualify him as a senior. If Laotian police are seriously intent on obtaining info from ISG members because they lack intel of their own, (which is patently absurd) then this would be an obvious plan.
[/QUOTE]Interestingly enough Mr Pomp I know a member of the NBI Philippines who happens to be a lurking member on ISG.

No need to be a senior member. He can log in here and read all posts and pick up all sorts of tid-bits of information.

Some guys make it easy for LE by going into detail.

No one is suggesting ISG is a "prime" source of information for LE but some people try very hard to incriminate themselves and others by documenting way too much information.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1888745]Interestingly enough Mr Pomp I know a member of the NBI Philippines who happens to be a lurking member on ISG.

No need to be a senior member. He can log in here and read all posts and pick up all sorts of tid-bits of information.

Some guys make it easy for LE by going into detail.

No one is suggesting ISG is a "prime" source of information for LE but some people try very hard to incriminate themselves and others by documenting way too much information.[/QUOTE]The supposed NBI agent was not practicing good tradecraft by informing you that he consults ISG. The rest of your post is more speculation, conjecture. Do you really believe that a foreigner, not speaking the language and in country for only a couple of weeks at the most, is more knowledgeable about the vice in Vientiane than a cop who was born and raised and whose full time job (year in and year out) is to know about illegal activity in their own backyard?

FWIW, I met a cute and attentive Lao lady at one of the many massage places and we exchanged numbers. Although her attention to my needs in the shop always required a tip, she also visited me several times in my hotel and never wanted cash. She also came straight to my room, no WOS or awkward waiting for me at the reception.

I imagine that if a Lao national feels comfortable visiting a farang, in his room, and very clearly outside of wedlock, then perhaps the law is no longer applied so strictly.

YMMV, of course.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;1886916]"Relationships with Lao Citizens: Lao law prohibits sexual contact between foreign citizens and Lao nationals except when the two parties have been married in accordance with Lao Family Law. Any foreigner who enters into a sexual relationship with a Lao national risks being interrogated, detained, arrested, or fined. Lao police have confiscated passports and imposed fines of up to 5,000 USD on foreigners who enter into unapproved sexual relationships. The Lao party to the relationship may be jailed without trial. Foreigners are not permitted to invite Lao nationals of the opposite sex to their hotel rooms; police may raid hotel rooms without notice or consent.

If you plan to marry a Lao national, you are required by Lao law to obtain prior permission from the Lao government. The formal application process can take as long as a year. You can obtain information about these requirements from the USA Embassy in Vientiane. The Lao government will not issue a marriage certificate unless the correct procedures are followed. Any attempt to circumvent Lao regulations may result in arrest, imprisonment, a fine of 5005,000 USD and deportation. If you cohabit with or enter into a close relationship with a Lao national, you may be accused by Lao authorities of entering into an illegal marriage and be subject to these same penalties. If you wish to become engaged to a Lao national, you must also obtain prior permission from the chief of the village where the Lao national resides. Failure to obtain prior permission can result in a fine of 5005,000 USD. Lao police may impose a large fine on a foreign citizen a few days after he or she holds an engagement ceremony with a Lao citizen based on the suspicion that the couple subsequently had sexual relations out of wedlock."

Straight from the US state department, China and Vietnam I know have a cohabitation law as well and I know it is also enforced on occasion in China. But Laos is a special case and the reason why it gets such a large excerpt on the state departments website. The Lao police cannot easily convict a brothel if two Lao citizens are in a room but a foreigner and a Laos girl is automatically a crime and is a jackpot for the police if the brothel is not protected. That is the reason why information is sparse on Laos and the popular places stay popular and the underground places tay underground in Laos specifically.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chacal60;1961229]FWIW, I met a cute and attentive Lao lady at one of the many massage places and we exchanged numbers. Although her attention to my needs in the shop always required a tip, she also visited me several times in my hotel and never wanted cash. She also came straight to my room, no WOS or awkward waiting for me at the reception.

I imagine that if a Lao national feels comfortable visiting a farang, in his room, and very clearly outside of wedlock, then perhaps the law is no longer applied so strictly.[/QUOTE]It's an outdated post from MM but your views still hold.

As each month passes and Laos becomes more connected internationally, there is less of a problem about the "old laws", but you should still be careful.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1961246]It's an outdated post from MM but your views still hold.

As each month passes and Laos becomes more connected internationally, there is less of a problem about the "old laws", but you should still be careful.[/QUOTE]Hotels are more willing these times to allow guests. Of course sometimes you need to give the owner a little tip to help bring in the girl.

I have not had a problem bringing girls back for the last 2-3 years. Of course I am not staying at 5-star hotels.

Good points. My digs were most definitely not 5 star, 3 star at best and that was only after they switched me out of the room that had a whiff of sewage in the bathroom. Given that my lady visitor was allowed in without care or fanfare made up for the initial inconvenience.

[QUOTE=Tundish;1962026]Hotels are more willing these times to allow guests. Of course sometimes you need to give the owner a little tip to help bring in the girl.

I have not had a problem bringing girls back for the last 2-3 years. Of course I am not staying at 5-star hotels.[/QUOTE]

I just finished my second long stay of the year. This time for 60 days. One visa on arrival plus one 30 days extension. Extension price the same $2 a day. Can do it easily yourself at Vientiane immigration or give it to travel agent to run for you $10-15 service. Spending a longer time here, I easily made quite a few regulars, most of them non pro or very semi working, I feel better and better with repeated meetings. So did not venture new grounds too much this trip. But did find more and more new suburban Lao and Viet joints of all kinds of formats, karaoke, massage, restaurants, hair salon or old style brothels.

But during this trip, I actually enjoyed a tourist trap that I avoided before. The Vientiane Plaza spa had brought in a few nice young providers. I tried 4 of them during my 60 day stay, and all very consistent in service and attitude. The system is very easy for newbie. You pick a massage package and pick a lady, as for me I always pick 60 min 130,000 kip. The play fee is negotiable. But they will quote you about 400,000. You can try bargain down to 300,000 or 350,000.

I will check out this place again next trip after new year for my next long stay. This place definitely very easy for Lao newbies.

[QUOTE=ShinShin;1971115] I actually enjoyed a tourist trap that I avoided before. The Vientiane Plaza spa had brought in a few nice young providers. I tried 4 of them during my 60 day stay, and all very consistent in service and attitude. The system is very easy for newbie. You pick a massage package and pick a lady, as for me I always pick 60 min 130,000 kip. The play fee is negotiable. But they will quote you about 400,000. You can try bargain down to 300,000 or 350,000.

I will check out this place again next trip after new year for my next long stay. This place definitely very easy for Lao newbies.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Shin.

I have previously reviewed this place here and it seems like it is "business as usual", but with some new providers. I agree that it is simple and straightforward.

If you go during the day you might find only 2 or 3 girls are lying around in the lobby (no fish bowl functioning) and they tend to rotate in turn.

If you don't like the girl assigned to you tell the guy checking you in and select another one.

In the evening there are more girls to choose from.

Besides all these joints along Kampengmueang, I also found more and more joints along Sithong Road. I rented a car half the time so I drove around very often. I counted there must be at least over 40 joints of different setup all along the Kampengmueng road all the way 10 kilos south of the center. I still enjoy these restaurant joints. They open early afternoon and it's fun to see all these girls lying around sleepy face early afternoon. Drinking a beer while watching them get ready for work. Lots of joints do not have any signs at all. The Chinese lantern, or some flickering lights are some indication. These joints are no longer all locals anymore. I found more and more local expats and adventure minded are venturing out of these tourist areas to the suburbs.

I found many more Lao and Viet joints along Sithong road, must be around 10 of them along the way. Some are in restaurant setup, some are just typical residential house, you have to be observant and a little courageous to go in and ask, watch out for the Chinese lantern or a little pink neon, or some guy standing or sitting outside suspiciously.

One day my regular girl took me to a cafe for dinner near the Thai visa place. I noticed a shop house without any sign with a guy constantly watching the traffic outside. I was pretty sure there is something inside. The next day I drove there and parked the car in front and the guy called out to me. Turned out to be a Viet joint, only a few minute walk from Thai visa place. And found another joint further down the road as well. All these Viet joints all over town are still good value at 150000 to 200000. They will definitely quote you more but use my number as guideline. Viets are good service oriented. Most of my Viet sessions were at least above average.

There are also quite a few joints that I previously never knew on Asean Road and there a street that connect to Sithong Road that I do not know the name where Mitsubishi dealer is, I found 2 quite large shops that looks like a Chinese massage, sign in Chinese with Chinese lanterns. I was curious so I went in to see what they have. I was right, they offer special as well. I definitely think Vientiane is by no way less convenient than Bangkok or Phnom Penh for a quickie.

I will be back soon after new year for maybe even a longer stay.

I had my local lady visit me at my upscale hotel, came straight to my room with no hold up by reception. However, the phone rang in my room at 10 pm and reception asked to speak with her. I thought uh oh, this could go bad.

They just wanted her to hand in her ID if she was staying the night, but I told her we should wrap things up and she finished me off, gathered her things and was out the door by 10:20.

Sure enough, on checkout I noticed a small sign at reception saying "no visitors after 10 pm". So, book them early for room service, but otherwise an overnight is acceptable as long as IDs are shared.

And once again no charge by her.

[QUOTE=Tundish;1962026]Hotels are more willing these times to allow guests. Of course sometimes you need to give the owner a little tip to help bring in the girl.

I have not had a problem bringing girls back for the last 2-3 years. Of course I am not staying at 5-star hotels.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Been a while since I was in Vientiane. Could someone give an update on the Mekong Hotel action downstairs? It used to be mostly Thai guys, but I guess now it is mostly Chinese. I recall there was the dark 'club' one enters at street level then the brightly lit room with the many girls sitting there watching TV entered through another door inside. Is that still the same? Also, are ST rooms available there. Or is proper check-in required? I recall there was an ST place a short motocy ride away. (I RTF but couldn't find anything recent. So thanks).

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;1981351]Hi,

Been a while since I was in Vientiane. Could someone give an update on the Mekong Hotel action downstairs? It used to be mostly Thai guys, but I guess now it is mostly Chinese. I recall there was the dark 'club' one enters at street level then the brightly lit room with the many girls sitting there watching TV entered through another door inside. Is that still the same? Also, are ST rooms available there. Or is proper check-in required? I recall there was an ST place a short motocy ride away. (I RTF but couldn't find anything recent. So thanks).[/QUOTE]I am back in Laos. Really couldn't wait to get back. I am preparing a long road trip with a rental Toyota 4 wheel drive all the way to Muang Singh on China border in a few days with a Myanmar nightlife pro who came to join me for this road trip. I went Muang Singh last trip and it has plenty of action. Lots of fun.

About Mekong karaoke. It is no longer like a few years ago. It still has quite a number of girls, nowadays mostly older girls and many have been there many years, the last few visits I never saw anything worth the value. You probably have to get a few LDs and change a few girls to get what you like, it's hard to get under 1500 bahts ST unless you regular local customers, some girl only want to go ST room nearby, that's another 300 bahts, some girls may go your room even take you on her motorbike, but that's up to the girl, so overall plus all the karaoke drinks, you are very likely pay over 2500 bahts for an hour ST. To me it's very bad value.

Vientiane Plaza sauna still has a few nice ones. I just went there 2 days ago, 2200 bahts in all. It is a tourist joint, but it is quite reliable recently.

Last night I actually checked out Mekong Karaoke with some expats here and we opened a karaoke room. My familiar mamasan brought about 4 lineups of 5-10 girls, most of them mediocre, we kept 5 of them for chatting, but non of them considered pretty, at most somewhat cute, but some quite young late teens. Seems like if you get a hotel room upstairs, they let you take the girl there without drinks, but most cases they want you to order and sit with girls before taking them out. The ST price they will quote you 1500 Thai bahts, but if you are regular and know mamasan you pay a little less 1200 if you use hotel room upstairs which is 35-40 USD.

The tuk tuk outside the karaoke are all sharks, they will extort you hundred of bahts to take you 1-2 kilo with your girl back to your hotel. So better go with your motorbike or try to convince girl take you on her motorbike.

This place is not cheap anymore, getting a singing room, some beers, snacks, fruits, ice, 5 lady chatting for a while, a little groping and touching (tip expected), ended up paying about 200 k kip each of us, 5 guys.

In the good old days, you could just peak in the lady's waiting room, always stocked with 30-40 young ladies every night, some were really gorgeous, and you can just pick and go paying 1000 bahts, but that easy time is over. This type of joint is too much hassle for me now, getting a bit older and hate the drinking process. I will rather just pick and go at any of the hotel brothel, or sauna, karaoke is tiring for me.

Many thanks ShinShin!

[QUOTE=ShinShin;1983236]Last night I actually checked out Mekong Karaoke with some expats here and we opened a karaoke room. My familiar mamasan brought about 4 lineups of 5-10 girls, most of them mediocre, we kept 5 of them for chatting, but non of them considered pretty, at most somewhat cute, but some quite young late teens. Seems like if you get a hotel room upstairs, they let you take the girl there without drinks, but most cases they want you to order and sit with girls before taking them out. The ST price they will quote you 1500 Thai bahts, but if you are regular and know mamasan you pay a little less 1200 if you use hotel room upstairs which is 35-40 USD.

The tuk tuk outside the karaoke are all sharks, they will extort you hundred of bahts to take you 1-2 kilo with your girl back to your hotel. So better go with your motorbike or try to convince girl take you on her motorbike.

This place is not cheap anymore, getting a singing room, some beers, snacks, fruits, ice, 5 lady chatting for a while, a little groping and touching (tip expected), ended up paying about 200 k kip each of us, 5 guys.

In the good old days, you could just peak in the lady's waiting room, always stocked with 30-40 young ladies every night, some were really gorgeous, and you can just pick and go paying 1000 bahts, but that easy time is over. This type of joint is too much hassle for me now, getting a bit older and hate the drinking process. I will rather just pick and go at any of the hotel brothel, or sauna, karaoke is tiring for me.[/QUOTE]

I was in Vientiane right before the new year just for a couple of nights.

I had most success with a tuktuk driver who I paid to show me spots all over town. We ended up at a string of beer bars up near the airport and settled in at one where the girls looked fresh. The four of us (mama gave the driver a consolation girl in addition to the one I chose) went through 8 bottles of beer and all ended up good and drunk. I took my girl for the whole night at 500 k +90 k for beer and 60 k for tuktuk driver. Certainly not the cheapest way to enjoy Laos but a good value. Back in the room the girl was very cooperative and ended up leaving around 10 the next morning after several rounds.

[QUOTE=HumanPerson2;1984925]I was in Vientiane right before the new year just for a couple of nights.

... We ended up at a string of beer bars up near the airport ...[/QUOTE]Kind Sir, can you help locate these joints up near the airport? Street name? Big Road? Side street? Past the airport, or between city and airport? I am here a couple more weeks, and WeChat is way too full of ladyboys, and other scammers!

Thank you for any help.

[QUOTE=NspectHerGadgt;1997820]Kind Sir, can you help locate these joints up near the airport? Street name? Big Road? Side street? Past the airport, or between city and airport? I am here a couple more weeks, and WeChat is way too full of ladyboys, and other scammers!..[/QUOTE]There are two spots I'd recommend on the north side of town:

1. A cluster of 4 adjacent bars on Chou Anou Rd. It's few kilometers out of town so you need to make sure you've got a scooter / car, but well worth it. Great selection. Exact coordinates are 18.030708, 102.625696.

2. Many bars along Sithong Rd between Asian Rd and the connector that joins Sithong to Asean. Rough coordinates are 17.978719, 102.587877.

Happy hunting!

Every time I'm in Vientiane, I always end up here. This is where the good talent goes. There are a few bars in the downtown area but they close at midnight where At Home disco is open till about 2 or 3 in the morning. I am planning a trip in May or June and hope this place is still up and running. Laos is better for the freelance game than massage places.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019908]Every time I'm in Vientiane, I always end up here. This is where the good talent goes. There are a few bars in the downtown area but they close at midnight where At Home disco is open till about 2 or 3 in the morning. I am planning a trip in May or June and hope this place is still up and running. Laos is better for the freelance game than massage places.[/QUOTE]Are there many nice girls to choose from in Home disco? How is it there compared to a similar place in Bangkok? Price is cheaper I guess than in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;2045060]Are there many nice girls to choose from in Home disco? How is it there compared to a similar place in Bangkok? Price is cheaper I guess than in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]The girls are nice but if you think it's cheaper than Bangkok, your wrong. Everything is the same price or more.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;2045060]Are there many nice girls to choose from in Home disco? How is it there compared to a similar place in Bangkok? Price is cheaper I guess than in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Agree with B/ Dog.

Lao ladies are very sweet (if you can find one with reasonable English skills). In general, English is fragmentary.

As Dog says, prices are not cheaper.

As an aside, the plethora of massage places in and around the tourist areas now have a number of girls who are now more inclined to offer extra service if you ask for it (but you should ask discreetly). You may not get it on your first visit but if you return and they become comfortable with you it is much more likely.

Going to Vientiane by the end of this week. I have understood that Thai Bahts are widely accepted and that you can only withdraw 1.000.000 Kip at a time from the ATM's. So I guess it's best to bring Bahts with me?
Some people on internet forums advise to exchange Bahts for Kip once you've arrived in Laos and other people advise against it. So what to do?

Is it easy to find girls through WeChat in Vientiane? Or any other chat app that's popular there?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2047875]Going to Vientiane by the end of this week. I have understood that Thai Bahts are widely accepted and that you can only withdraw 1.000.000 Kip at a time from the ATM's. So I guess it's best to bring Bahts with me?
Some people on internet forums advise to exchange Bahts for Kip once you've arrived in Laos and other people advise against it. So what to do?[/QUOTE]I travel regularly to Vientiane for business and never take any currencies with me.

Plenty of ATMs all over the city and they dispense kip easily enough.

Not sure why you would ever need more than 1 M kip per day?

Many restaurants and coffee shops give the bill in USD, Kip and Thai baht so you can pay whatever suits.

Many girls quote prices in baht so the baht is a medium of currency too.

I have found that there is no preference by the locals. It's up to you sir. If you already have a pocketful of baht just take it with you and use it without exchanging it.

If you do use baht to pay, just be very aware of the conversion rates so you are not getting ripped off if you get a price quoted to you in kip and you offer to pay in baht (and vice versa).

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2047992]
Not sure why you would ever need more than 1 M kip per day?
SNIP
If you do use baht to pay, just be very aware of the conversion rates so you are not getting ripped off if you get a price quoted to you in kip and you offer to pay in baht (and vice versa).[/QUOTE]Thanks RK. I don't think I will need more than 1 M Kip per day but I have to pay my bank a fee for every withdrawal I make. And maybe the banks in Laos have a fee on top of that, like the banks in Thailand?

Maybe I make one withdrawal and use the Kip when I get a price quoted in Kip only.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2048249]Thanks RK. I don't think I will need more than 1 M Kip per day but I have to pay my bank a fee for every withdrawal I make. And maybe the banks in Laos have a fee on top of that, like the banks in Thailand?

Maybe I make one withdrawal and use the Kip when I get a price quoted in Kip only.[/QUOTE]One million kip ends up like a house brick of currency in your wallet or bill-fold mate, especially if it comes out of the ATM in 50,000 notes and then you combine it with the hundreds of smaller bills that you will collect as you go.

The kip is the official currency so by Government decree there will always be a price given in kip for regular transactions in all Lao businesses, unlike Cambodia where everything is quoted in USD.

The Morning Market merchants always quote prices in baht because they deal with large tourist buses coming across the bridge from Thailand with Thai shoppers. If you ask for a price in kip they bring out the calculators, and that's when you need to be able to do the arithmetic in your head, because they are professional price manipulators.

Let us know how you get on in Vientiane Mog.

I have read on another forum that there's a brothel here:

[URL]https://www.google.nl/maps/dir/17.95406[/URL] . 4005?hl=NL.

Is this correct and is it still open? Is this Wonderland?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2049412]I have read on another forum that there's a brothel here:

[URL]https://www.google.nl/maps/dir/17.95406[/URL] . 4005?hl=NL.

Is this correct and is it still open? Is this Wonderland?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, the link doesn't work. These are the coordinates: 17.9540641, 102.6241749
It's next to the Wonderland Guesthouse.

[QUOTE=ShinShin;1971115]I just finished my second long stay of the year. This time for 60 days. One visa on arrival plus one 30 days extension. Extension price the same $2 a day. Can do it easily yourself at Vientiane immigration or give it to travel agent to run for you $10-15 service. Spending a longer time here, I easily made quite a few regulars, most of them non pro or very semi working, I feel better and better with repeated meetings. So did not venture new grounds too much this trip. But did find more and more new suburban Lao and Viet joints of all kinds of formats, karaoke, massage, restaurants, hair salon or old style brothels.

But during this trip, I actually enjoyed a tourist trap that I avoided before. The Vientiane Plaza spa had brought in a few nice young providers. I tried 4 of them during my 60 day stay, and all very consistent in service and attitude. The system is very easy for newbie. You pick a massage package and pick a lady, as for me I always pick 60 min 130,000 kip. The play fee is negotiable. But they will quote you about 400,000. You can try bargain down to 300,000 or 350,000.

I will check out this place again next trip after new year for my next long stay. This place definitely very easy for Lao newbies.[/QUOTE]I second that. Very easy. Go reception, a girl will greet you, choose massage package; I chose the cheapest one. We went to room, she washed me and I asked for boom boom right away (no massage). She said no problem I got a real stunner and she asked 500 k. She naturally over charged me, but this was something I really wanted to taste. Sex was mediocre at best but she was a 10 in looks.

Will be there for my annual trip on Monday night. Seniors feel free to PM me if you are around and want to tag along.

After reading about this place, I had to try it. Took a Tuk tuk there for 100 Baht. All the ladies were dressed in sexy blue dresses. All with long black hair and white skin ranging from 6/10 - 10/10. I chose Hui. A clear 10/10 with a spinner body, silky smooth white skin and long black hair. She was Vietnamese like the rest of the ladies. I chose a 2 hour session for 1000 Baht and I gave her 3280 Baht, well worth it I might add. We started naked together in the Jaquizzi as she washed me down while gazing at me with her big black eyes. I was in love! She was perfect. We gathered ourselves up and moved to the massage table. She climbed on top and started with a BBBJ that was amazing. Let me say this was no GFE but a pure PSE from heaven. I couldn't resist the view of her beautiful ass any longer and pulled her over for 69. After 20 minutes of this, I couldn't wait any longer and moved in for the kill. I mounted her in mish to start. Her pussy was so tight at first but she became really wet as we fucked. 20 minutes of pure bliss happened next. Then I moved her into doggy and that beautiful ass was too much for me and I exploded inside her. She jumped up quickly to clean up and, got dresssed amd proceeded with a massage.

I thought I was finished but I couldn't stop thinking about her naked body and I rose up again. She disrobed again and we started round 2. This time we went right into 69 and then she rode me for about 30 minutes. The site of her beautiful body was so amazing. I was thinking to myself that If I died right there at that moment, I would be a happy man. Then we moved to me standing up and entering her. She just kept looking up at me with these puppy dog eyes. She was driving me crazy. I couldn't resist any longer and she rolled back over into doggy and moved her ass over the edge of the massage table, I stood over and and entered her again. I just loved this and pounded away for another 30 minutes. I could not finish again but did not care. She was that good. This turned out to be by far the top mongering experience of my entire life. I will never forget it.

Service 10.

Body 10.

Atitude 10.

Looks 10.

Face 10.

Repeat Hell ya!!

Every chance I get to come back to Laos. I will be there.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2047876]Is it easy to find girls through WeChat in Vientiane? Or any other chat app that's popular there?[/QUOTE]I'm tuckered out after my 2 hour session this afternoon but since I've been here, I have had multiple chat requests from the ladies. 10 times more than when I'm in BKk. If I wanted to pull the trigger, my bed would be full of pussy tonight. I will be back in 2 months and will stay longer next time.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2047876]Is it easy to find girls through WeChat in Vientiane? Or any other chat app that's popular there?[/QUOTE]Super easy. The locate feature is a godsend. I also use Line but more with girls I've already met.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2055615]I'm tuckered out after my 2 hour session this afternoon but since I've been here, I have had multiple chat requests from the ladies. 10 times more than when I'm in BKk. If I wanted to pull the trigger, my bed would be full of pussy tonight. I will be back in 2 months and will stay longer next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chacal60;2061202]Super easy. The locate feature is a godsend. I also use Line but more with girls I've already met.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys, I'm not there anymore but next time when I visit Vientiane I will use it for sure. I didn't have much need to use it because the very first night I was there I hooked up with this lovely little spinner in Bor Pen Nyang and repeated with her almost every day of my 5 days stay. I hardly ever do that but this girl was so damn sweet and gave me such an unbelievable GFE, OMG. I almost fell in love with her. Almost.

Only one day I wanted to try another girl so I made up some lame excuse that I wasn't feeling very well (which was actually true because I had diarrhea, LOL), looked in WeChat and found a massage girl. She was a nice enough girl who gave me a decent massage but she quoted me 300.000 Kip for a 'handjob / blowjob' (in her own words) and didn't want to budge so I declined.
Come on lady, I give my 'girl friend' 300.000 for LT and she's very happy with it.

What time does the spa open for business??

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2075155]What time does the spa open for business??[/QUOTE]Is the spa at the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?

[QUOTE=Ds4217;1822628]This was amazing place with many very cute girls. I took two out over two nights for 3000 THB each. Did not do any ST. It was a little hard to find the first time as the tuk-tuk driver did not know where, so I took a screen shot of the location on my iphone for all. The directions above of what to do when you get there are perfect.[/QUOTE]Let's just say this place is still there and operating.

A very large, very good selection, probably 15 all crowded into a little room waiting.

ST price was quoted as 500 K kip, or 2000 baht.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019908]Every time I'm in Vientiane, I always end up here. This is where the good talent goes. There are a few bars in the downtown area but they close at midnight where At Home disco is open till about 2 or 3 in the morning. I am planning a trip in May or June and hope this place is still up and running. Laos is better for the freelance game than massage places.[/QUOTE]At home was still running hot last night.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2055615]I'm tuckered out after my 2 hour session this afternoon but since I've been here, I have had multiple chat requests from the ladies. 10 times more than when I'm in BKk. If I wanted to pull the trigger, my bed would be full of pussy tonight. I will be back in 2 months and will stay longer next time.[/QUOTE]Nah, take care.

8 out of 10 of those that approached me or were visible on wechat were ladyboys. Damn fine looking girls, but they readily said they were ladyboys when asked.

[QUOTE=AussieTiger;2076243]Is the spa at the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?[/QUOTE]Found it.

Early evening was open.

One waiting in lobby.

15-20 appeared when I asked for a look at who was in.

All Vietnamese, all young (30 yo), all 6 plus, all good bodies.

[QUOTE=AussieTiger;2076243]Is the spa at the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?[/QUOTE]The MP at Vientiane Plaza is in its own small building within the hotel grounds but adjacent to the main hotel.

It's on the right as you approach the front entrance and is clearly signposted so no worries finding it.

I never noticed the official opening times but as for most of these places, nothing much happens before 12 midday.

I went there at 2 pm one Saturday and it was virtually deserted but 2 girls were sleeping on recliner chairs in the lobby.

Hello everyone,

I have never been Laos, but in Vietnam several times. In some famous 4 or 5 hotels in Vietnam like Fortuna in Hanoi or Crown Plaza in the nang could found stunning girls in their KTV and also could have their rooms with the girls. (Avoid law issues for high level hotels).

I found there is a hotel named Muong Thanh Luxury Vientiane which is a 5 star Vietnamese hotel and another is Grand Szechuan Hotel which owned by Chinese both with Karaoke facilities.

So wondered may these two hotel you could find girls to play and come with them to their luxury rooms. Expected both will be pricey but I believe there will be more chance to find stunners. So must be choosy and have some luck.

Now in Vietnam the price have been ruined, everything expensive, no quality.

[QUOTE=AussieTiger;2076944]Found it.
Early evening was open.
One waiting in lobby.
15-20 appeared when I asked for a look at who was in.
All Vietnamese, all young (30 yo), all 6 plus, all good bodies.[/QUOTE]30 yo is young?

Does anyone know if Crowne Plaza will let me in with a girl, if arrive around 12 - 1 in the morning?

It's my first day in Laos, how worried should I be about the "illegality of a foreigner banging a Laos chick" ?

Thank you for feedback.

[QUOTE=Stavvrrooss;2085493]Does anyone know if Crowne Plaza will let me in with a girl, if arrive around 12 - 1 in the morning?

It's my first day in Laos, how worried should I be about the "illegality of a foreigner banging a Laos chick" ?

Thank you for feedback.[/QUOTE]How did you get on, did they let you in? I've just checked in.

[QUOTE=Stavvrrooss;2085493]Does anyone know if Crowne Plaza will let me in with a girl, if arrive around 12 - 1 in the morning?

It's my first day in Laos, how worried should I be about the "illegality of a foreigner banging a Laos chick" ?

Thank you for feedback.[/QUOTE]After 10:00 PM visitors just need to register. Before 10:00 you can take a visitor to your room without registering them. This info is posted throughout this thread and it is very easy because the number of posts are very limited. But don't make it too obvious she is a pick up.

Hello all,

I know we could get ladies for overnight at the farmhouses.

Would anyone know the exact location of them FHs?

Visiting first time to VTE soon.

If anyone has recommendation of hotels or fuckshops, feel free to share.

Thank you!

Does anyone know where this go go bar is that is featured in this you tube video?

[URL]https://youtu.be/ylY8gQ4_TAE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Matong36;2088426]Hello all,

I know we could get ladies for overnight at the farmhouses.

Would anyone know the exact location of them FHs?

Visiting first time to VTE soon.

If anyone has recommendation of hotels or fuckshops, feel free to share.

Thank you![/QUOTE]I have read a few of your reports and I notiuced a common theme where after you have posted pics and decription of how you had sex you would say you found them at your USUAL place and that people shouldn't pm you for the location, given that you don't even have pm ability, I couldn't even pm you if I wanted to, but I would suggest other follow your example and tell you not to ask for exact locations.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2088975]Does anyone know where this go go bar is that is featured in this you tube video?

[URL]https://youtu.be/ylY8gQ4_TAE[/URL][/QUOTE]No idea, but my guess would be the Last Resort near the Mecure. Haven't been there for a few years now but it's big enough and dodgy enough to be this place. It's run by 4 relatives who are in the army and police force, so they get away with more than others would do.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2089036] but I would suggest other follow your example and tell you not to ask for exact locations.[/QUOTE]Please tell us why.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2045988]Agree with B/ Dog.

Lao ladies are very sweet (if you can find one with reasonable English skills). In general, English is fragmentary.

As Dog says, prices are not cheaper.

As an aside, the plethora of massage places in and around the tourist areas now have a number of girls who are now more inclined to offer extra service if you ask for it (but you should ask discreetly). You may not get it on your first visit but if you return and they become comfortable with you it is much more likely.[/QUOTE]Have never been to Laos, have been to Bangkok last year. At 2016, the GoGo bars at Cowboy or Nana usually quoted 2500-3000 Baht and 5000-6000 Baht for ST and LT. Thermae girls also quoted from 2000-2500 for ST.

Truely very expensive. Not been Pattaya yet so do not know the price there.

Had done some research and believe the freelancers in Laos may around 2000 Baht for ST in 2017 now. Approaching Thai's price level.

[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2093085]Have never been to Laos, have been to Bangkok last year. At 2016, the GoGo bars at Cowboy or Nana usually quoted 2500-3000 Baht and 5000-6000 Baht for ST and LT. Thermae girls also quoted from 2000-2500 for ST.

Truely very expensive. Not been Pattaya yet so do not know the price there.

Had done some research and believe the freelancers in Laos may around 2000 Baht for ST in 2017 now. Approaching Thai's price level.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pricing info.

Will report the actual cost of freelancers in couple of weeks time.

[QUOTE=HumanPerson2;1998032]There are two spots I'd recommend on the north side of town:

1. A cluster of 4 adjacent bars on Chou Anou Rd. It's few kilometers out of town so you need to make sure you've got a scooter / car, but well worth it. Great selection. Exact coordinates are 18.030708, 102.625696.

2. Many bars along Sithong Rd between Asian Rd and the connector that joins Sithong to Asean. Rough coordinates are 17.978719, 102.587877.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]I confirm Option #2:

It is even doable with a bicycle from the center.

I went and explored it. That's a 600 m strip of Sithong Rd that has developed into a full on red light district. Activity stars from 19:00.

The "strip" is roughly between the first gas station from ASEAN road, and 100 m after Soi Satti. (Both are on GM).

It is a mix of small Vietnamese brothels, Lao hostess bars and massage parlors. And in between are normal shops (restaurants, dentist clinic etc). You"ll identify the right places because the girls are sitting / standing in the front (nobody is hiding in the back, like in some places in LP).

While the Vietnamese girls will definitely be more active to get your attention, and even call you to come, the lao girls won't, you need to be the active party / talk mamasan.

From shabby looking "shops" to the last one after Soi Satti, which is fancy looking (glass doors, all purple neon lighting, Chinese text, girls very dolled up). Expect the prices to be accordingly. (150,000-400,000 for st).

While the Vietnamese are ages 22-30. The lao hostess bars and MPs are mostly not age of Majority. Some were 18+ (I had some beers and asked the girls who looked it) but most, without even needing to ask, easily can see they are not (was sad and shocking to me).

If Vientiane Plaza is easy (reported my previous post) , So is Sithong.

[QUOTE=BoomBoom0;2093746]I confirm Option #2:

It is even doable with a bicycle from the center.

I went and explored it. That's a 600 m strip of Sithong Rd that has developed into a full on red light district. Activity stars from 19:00.

The "strip" is roughly between the first gas station from ASEAN road, and 100 m after Soi Satti. (Both are on GM).

It is a mix of small Vietnamese brothels, Lao hostess bars and massage parlors. And in between are normal shops (restaurants, dentist clinic etc). You"ll identify the right places because the girls are sitting / standing in the front (nobody is hiding in the back, like in some places in LP)..[/QUOTE]Did you mean 150,000 for ST and 400,000 for LT? I guess this maybe the general price for both Viet and Lao places, right?

The Viet girl also for pick up or only at their place? For Lao places and bars so just have a drink and find somebody to negotiate and pick up?

BTW, there is a small mistake on your post. I saw on the map the road is "Soi Setti", not "Soi Satti". I founded a gas station on Asean Rd which was closed to the Szechuan Hotel, So according to your post the strip will located on the right hand side of "Soi Setti"?

Thanks for your detailed info.

[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2093791]Did you mean 150,000 for ST and 400,000 for LT? I guess this maybe the general price for both Viet and Lao places, right?

The Viet girl also for pick up or only at their place? For Lao places and bars so just have a drink and find somebody to negotiate and pick up?

BTW, there is a small mistake on your post. I saw on the map the road is "Soi Setti", not "Soi Satti". I founded a gas station on Asean Rd which was closed to the Szechuan Hotel, So according to your post the strip will located on the right hand side of "Soi Setti"?

Thanks for your detailed info.[/QUOTE]I meant a range of 150,000-400,000ST. Because of different quality of the shops.

Range for LT I'm guessing is 300,000-600,000. Always ask and negotiate.

Viet girls are also for pick up. Yes, just sit down and ask for beer. If the girl that sit with you, you not like, just point finger who you like. They maybe shy because you are foreigner, So if nobody come, you initiate. For a working girl ask for " Pu-sau" (in Lao language). Just be relaxed it is the function of the place. You are not asking for something unusual.

Sorry about mistake (damn it). Yes "Soi Setti". I was giving instruction according to places marked on google maps. There is only 1 gas station between Soi setti and asean Road. So yes, it is right hand side (towards asean Road.) Though as I mentioned there are some places in the 100 meter zone left of Soi Setti.

Please read my warnings about age.

Have a good time.

To make it more clear:

The red light district strip in Sithong Road starts and ends, exactly between these Google maps coordinates:

Petrolimex Gas Station (17.9761499, 102.5914592) The first Vietnamese shop is just next to it (to its left).

Animal Care Center (17.9794803, 102.5868066) The first shop (and most expensive looking) is just in front of it.

I've seen at least two dental clinics here as well, so if you also need dental work hehe.

Short trip: was in Vientiane for 2 night.

Came in on Thursday afternoon. Went to Vientiane plaza massage place around 5 pm. 7 girls available, chose Aw, very pretty girl in her early twenties. Look 9/10. Little English spoken. Chose cheapest package for 80 k kip, she asked 400 k for boom boom. Did BBBJ, and then several positions with condom.

Found her service very mechanical with too much fake moans.

There was another very pretty girl I wanted to try next day, but couldn't make it there.

Thursday night, didn't see any action around fountain area except one ladyboy, Bor Pen Yang was dead as well, probably due to rainy weather.

On Friday, tried a regular massage near Chou Anu Riad, masseuses a very pretty Lao girl offered hand job, starting price was 200 k but negotiated to 100 k.

Friday evening, saw the same ladyboy at the same place near the fountain. Also seen a motorbike girl, who was reasonably attractive. But I was quite drained after the HJ, had to catch an early morning flight, so didn't partake.

First of all, a big "thank you" to BoomBoom0,without whose invaluable information, I would never have been able to find this place.

His descriptions in post #162 and #165 are very accurate, and indeed very well describe the location and nature of this place.

I can confirm that action only takes place in the evening-I drove by this stretch of Sithong Road once during the day and all the places were completely deserted.

The whole area is clearly aimed at the locals, not tourists, and no one that I had interacted with spoke a lick of English. I also did not see any non-Lao people when I was in that area.

I had intentionally picked a hotel within walking distance of Sithong Rd, so after a 20 minute walk in the dark (which in no way felt unsafe, although pavements are lacking in Laos, so watch the traffic) I made my way to the designated area. I estimate that it is a mix of 60% Vietnamese brothels, and 40% Lao. It is fairly easy to tell them apart, as the Viet girls have fairer skin and are much more active at calling out to you as you walk by trying to wave you in (I guess when they see a single older white guy walking by at this time of the day, it is pretty obvious why he is there). The Lao girls are much more shy and the only person who would sometimes call out would be the mamasan.

The brothels are indeed mixed in on both sides of the road with regular business. In that area I would estimate there is a total of about 10 brothels, on average with 5-9 girls in each. The girls are usually sitting outside, so if you walk really slowly, you can check them out pretty well just by walking by (that is what I did). There is no need to it down and buy a drink.

Since I was in Laos, I wanted to go for a Lao girl, and one of them did catch my eye. Was just my type, although I would describe her as cute rather than a stunner (having said that, none of the girls in that area were the stunner type). I stopped, looked at the girl, then approached the mamasan (who funnily enough, was also manning the noodle soup stand). I pointed at the girl and gave her my phone to put in the price. She put in 150 000 kip, which per BoomBoom0's post is already on the lower end of the scale so I just nodded yes and gave her the cash. She kept 50 000 for herself and gave 100 000 to the girl.

She led me to a room in the back, into the most hardcore mongering experience of my career. It was just a room with concrete cider block walls and unfinished wooden floor covered by an aluminum roof. There were a few very thin, dirty futons on the floor. Having said that, the girl was very clean, with no funny smells. She insisted on full lights out for the sex, so visuals were limited. However, her body was fantastic, thin, firm with nice small perky boobs. BJ was not offered (which I think is the norm in Laos brothels), but she was affectionate in a shy kind of way, with lots of hugging and light kissing in the lips. Since it was dark, I did not attempt DATY, as I have a policy of not licking pussies that I cannot see first, so after some makeout time, we went to main event. She did provide her own condom, although in the end we went with one of mine. Overall, it was a good time and I ended up a happy man. The used condom was disposed of by dropping it in the crack between the wooden floor boards (I wonder how many used condoms are underneath the floor of that house), I gave her a 50 000 tip and left.

Overall, it felt like having sex with a shy high school girlfriend. Definitely not a starfish, but very much more along the lines of a shy GFE rather than a PSE, which again I fully expected going in.

Have finished my first trip in Laos. I have visited Luang prabang and Vientiane.

For the tourism part, I feel Laos in every aspect very similar as Thailand, the temples in Luang prabang are so beautiful and precious. But the feeling in Laos are very natural and simple. Not commercialized as in Bangkok or Chiang mai. Maybe still not a very popular tourism destination yet.

Mekong river is beautiful and remained its original appearance. The night market has obvious local feeling and unforgettable. Lao People very friendly.

But the price level in this country is far more high than I expected, especially in Vientiane.

The food, accommodations and the transportation are the same or more than Thailand. They don't have taxis, so Tuk tuk is the only choice. They start from 10000--20000 Kip depend the negotiation or luck. Food quality medium--low but price not. Hotels also. Not cheaper than Bangkok or HCMC. Compared with their economic level.

I tried Vientiane Plaza Massage. It seemed now the price are fixed and you have to pay all in front at the counter before you go with the lady.

530000 Kip one hour. Ladies from 4-9 I think. Really have some good young things. I came there 2 times and the last time the lady was pretty good. A solid 8. From HCMC, 21 YO, beautiful face and natural Boob, sexy ass. Nice and gentle massage, different positions. Name don't remember. Maybe was Lan.

I also tried the place which BoomBoom0 posted around Sithong Rd. Thanks so much for these invaluable information as SneraDog has said. This area was easy to find with such very accurate descriptions. There were several parlors, bars, small hotels you could find Laos girls or Viet girls. Yes, there are problems about age.

The Viet girls quality mediocre in my opinion, I came to a Beer Bar with Lao hostesses. First bar I stayed with a very cute, 20 YO Lao girl. She was very obedient and could not speak English so we talk with Google. We had 2 bottles of Lao beer and some snack, chatted 1 hour. I touched her but not too much. As for a surprise finally when I want to take her to my hotel she said she don't go out. So there were bars the girls only drink and play with you, but not do ST or LT. Tipped her 80000 Kip and the totally 160000 Kip include the beer and snack.

So I changed another bar and chose a 24 YO Lao hostess. She is pretty and cute. Sexy body. We also drink 2 bottles of Beerlao and chatted, played, a lot fun with her. She also fresh and shy. Feel so relaxed talking with her. Totally a newbie I think. Finally paid the Mamasan 400000 Kip for LT and 40000 Kip for beer. Good deal.

Also tried the Khong Kham KTV. Run by Chinese, I found a dude came with me and we selected 2 girls for companion. They were conservative but we had a lot fun for 5 hours. But finally we didn't take them out. Very expansive 900000 Kip for Long time and I believe the attitude or service will not be very good of my hostess. We paid 680000 Kip in all for rooms, beers and snack, fruits.

Finally, this trip is Ok, but not something outstanding. As for a first time trip. Maybe because of the ethnological differences, maybe due to the economic development level or make up or even surgery. I founded Lao girls less pretty or attractive than Thai girls. And also by regional standards low cost performance. But still a good place and may need more time to find the stunning one.

[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2121267]
Have finished my first trip in Laos. I have visited Luang prabang and Vientiane.
<SNIP>

But the price level in this country is far more high than I expected, especially in Vientiane.

They don't have taxis, so Tuk tuk is the only choice. They start from 10000--20000 Kip depend the negotiation or luck. <SNIP> [/QUOTE]Good comprehensive report Kurisu but you are too definitive about some of your statements.

For example, you say they don't have taxis. There are MANY taxis in Vientiane, with meters, and I use them all the time when I am working there because I am wearing business clothes and like to have aircon travel when I go around to various work sites. There are numerous taxis that stand by on the corner near Lao Plaza hotel down towards Day Inn and Sabaidee at Lao Hotel. I had 2 phone numbers and just called them when I needed them.

Taxis are the easiest way to get from the airport. After arrival just go to the desk near the exit. It's a fixed price trip to the city proper (last time I was there it was $7 usd.).

Your experiences in Vientiane Plaza massage don't correlate with mine either.

Don't base your conclusions on one visit or even 2 visits like you did. It is quite variable there, with a huge turnover of girls. Just be prepared to go with the flow. When I stayed in Vientiane for 4 months recently I never saw the same girl at the MP twice, and virtually all girls are Viet too (at least, from my experiences).

Hi,

On my next Trip to Vientaine I like to try Vientiane Plaza Massage but I'm not sure abaut the Location.

Have anybody some Information for me?

[QUOTE=Erzior;2121594]Hi,

On my next Trip to Vientaine I like to try Vientiane Plaza Massage but I'm not sure abaut the Location.

Have anybody some Information for me?[/QUOTE]Just plug "Vientiane Plaza Massage" into google and it will give you a map with the precise location of the place.

Made a two day visit out of curiosity. I had the best intentions of getting to Sithong Rd. , especially with all the great directions, but I am a lazy monger from a near-arctic climate and it was hot as hell. So Ventiane Plaza Massage it was. Two visits, both decent. I've now moved Vietnam up several places in my "Must Monger" list.

Each visit was mid-afternoon which seemed to be a slow time: I was just assigned the one girl sitting in the office. Not sure if she was all that was available, though on the first visit there was clearly at least one other: see below. As it happened it wasn't a problem because each of the issued girls was at least an 8.

I didn't tell them to skip the massage so we went through all the motions. I got what were two probably decent massages (hard to tell as I really dislike massages), each with the towel carefully placed for my non-existent modesty. I am glad this forum exists because otherwise I would have feared the worst: That I had found a legitimate massage shop. I hate it when that happens! Eventually the question was popped and the fun ensued. The damage for each was 160 K for the package and 400 K to the girl. Certainly not cheap but well within my price range.

All I can really add to the discussion is a tip for first timers on finding the place. I knew it was the separate building slightly to the east of the hotel, but when I got there I couldn't figure out where the office was. It didn't help that a comely young lass was on the stairs in the two story building I was facing as I approached. That must be the place! Yes, that is the place, but the office is actually the first door in the one story building angling off to one's right. I might have expired from the heat is the comely lass didn't finally point.

[QUOTE=Oosik;2180588]Made a two day visit out of curiosity. I had the best intentions of getting to Sithong Rd. , especially with all the great directions, but I am a lazy monger from a near-arctic climate and it was hot as hell. So Ventiane Plaza Massage it was. Two visits, both decent. I've now moved Vietnam up several places in my "Must Monger" list.

Each visit was mid-afternoon which seemed to be a slow time: I was just assigned the one girl sitting in the office. Not sure if she was all that was available, though on the first visit there was clearly at least one other: see below. As it happened it wasn't a problem because each of the issued girls was at least an 8.[/QUOTE]The lineup will get bigger late afternoon, good time to go is about 5-6 pm. The biggest lineup I have seen was about 15. I probably had about 15-20 sessions here in the past many years, and none was considered unpleasant, all average or above to very good. This place is still the best bet for tourists. Vietnam girls provide a much better service than Lao girls in general and more fun and lively as well. Lao girls are mostly dead fish getting deader and deader in recent years. Nowadays it is quite hard to find a good looking Lao girl with good service and cheerful attitude. Things have changed a lot here.

I wish I could say I conquered Vientiane, but that's not how I played. I'll share my experiences anyway, in case someone else can build on it.

The first night I visited freelancer hangout BPY. There were some cute girls and some ugly girls, some of whom were no doubt FLs but perhaps not the majority. But most were with a guy or weren't attractive. As others have said, the girls mostly will just smile at you and let you do the hard work. I can see someone scoring here, but it's work and not a gimmee and you have to be bold.

I then asked a tuk tuk to take me to the brothels on Sithong. I negotiated down to 140 baht (paeng maak). He wanted 400 baht to stick around and take me back, but that felt awkward so I declined and sent him away. This was around 11:30 PM and I saw 5 or 6 open shops with girls visible. The best looking girl of the lot refused to make eye contact with me. Haha. She wasn't subtle, but actually I appreciated the clarity. So I moved on and found another girl, almost as cute and 18 why / o. There actually weren't as many cute ones as I was expecting. Despite speaking some Thai, the negotiation was more difficult than expected. But we figured it out. 800 baht up front, though I only had 1 k baht and paid that. We went to the shack in the back. I do mean shack. We lay down on the cheap floor mattress. No AC and not even a fan in every room. The shower room was just a water spigot. I started thinking the 1 k was too much. I got pretty hard when the clothes came off because she had a pretty tight body, with A cup breasts. Strangely, her face reminded me of high-school GF (even that she wasn't asian), which was a nice little fantasy. With good service, I'd be in love, but you probably won't get that out here. She let me kiss her a little bit on the lips, but no DFK, no BJ of any kind, no sucking nipples, etc. I had to nudge her to get on top, but that didn't last long. She wanted me to do the work. It was alright, but I'm not sure I'd do this again unless someone swears the quality is better is in the afternoon, or some of the shops promote better service.

Well, as sad as that was, it was probably the highlight of the trip. I tried the VTE spa. 130 k + 400 k for full service, as previously stated. Although I'm usually uncannily good at picking from lineups, I erred this time. She didn't look so great when the clothes came off. Not so firm and with a bit of a tummy. I don't mind a small tummy if it's firm, but this wasn't a pretty sight. We took a very brief shower. She asked if I wanted a massage and I shook my head no. She offered some licking and BBBJ but her technique just wasn't working for me. Some with covered FS. We just didn't click, I guess. I couldn't finish even after asking for a BJ. I think this place is ok, but I just made a bad choice. It was pouring down rain after, so I sat in the girl's waiting room for a while. I saw a super cute one in pajamas (not sure why she wan't on duty) chatting with her asian boyfriend (Korean? All the girls here are above average, though I didn't see many 10's besides the one I mentioned. All Viet so far as I could tell. I'd swear that when an asian customer stopped by, he pulled a larger lineup than I did (20 vs. 10). Maybe I'm just being suspicious, though.

To be continued.

I forgot to mention in my last post that after I visited the farms on Sithong road, I had assumed I could get a tuk tuk back. I was wrong. That was a long, dark walk. Not too scary, though. Actually, I noticed a ton of nice looking houses with gates, and even mansions, in this area, which is funny.

I tried a massage shop on Chao Anou with women dressed in matching uniforms. That's usually a bad sign that you won't get any extras and that was in fact the case here, even after I repeated the next day. But the massage was quite good and reasonably priced (90 k or 360 Baht). I even asked for extras but was shot down. She doesn't go to the hotel room either. She did tip me off that the girls in the massage shop next door do such things. So that's exactly where I took my business next.

At this shop next door, they don't have uniforms. Good sign. They assigned me a girl, who was quite cute so I didn't complain. She suggested I shower, another good sign. But then she studiously avoided the private parts during the massage, a bad sign. I was pretty eager for release at this point, and was willing to overpay a bit, so I asked for the special massage. She didn't even respond, which I'd never seen before. I tried again, just on the. 1% chance she misunderstood. Shot down again. I might go back and try the other girls there. I found a report on the internet about this shop having potential.

I tried Samlor bar one night. Twice, actually. I popped my head in around 8 PM and it was dead. Around 10 or 11 it was busy and soccer was on. A group of three Laotians walked in the bar: a friendly gay guy, a cute drunk girl, and an older deaf lady. That sounds like the start to a joke, but I'm just telling it straight. They were super friendly and wanted to join me, and because of the cute one I let them. But it later became clear that the cute one had a boyfriend ("sort of" so I didn't stay long. They wanted to stick me with the bill, I imagine, but I just paid my part and a little extra, and left. I didn't see much other available talent there, by the way. The night before I saw a sexy thing arriving on a motorcycle, but I didn't see her again. I'm sure FLs hang out there occasionally (suspected I saw a few already attached to guys), but it's not like it's packed with them. There were far more men than women on this night.

I also tried BPY one more time, this time earlier (8 PM) and on the weekend. Around 9 PM, several suspected FLs (wearing sexy dresses, or jeans with midrift exposed) came in, mostly in groups of 2-3. I'd bet that FLs are by far in the minority here, though. I saw lots of guys come in with cute Lao girls, which was irritating. I know many guys have had luck here, but it's no Soi 7 Beergarden. Again, more men than women, challenging to tell FLs from mere partiers, they tend to act somewhat shy, they mostly expect you to approach them, and not many hot ones. I didn't see a lot of hooking up taking place on the premises, except for one guy approaching two girls that I suspected were LBs. On the bright side, the food is decent here (by Loas standards, not by Thai standards) and surprisingly reasonably priced.

I poked my head in Kop Chai Deu several times, but it looked dead. I think there might be an inside area with girls? I only saw the outside seating area.

I saw only a few FLs on the street, sitting on motorbikes. Most looked like LBs.

A few things I didn't try but read about here or elsewhere. KTVs seem too expensive for my blood, and not convenient. I wanted to try some apps, but I couldn't even sign up without a phone number. I couldn't even get those free SMS services to work. Dalah spa sounds promising, but it's very far from the fountain area and tuk tuks seemed expensive and difficult to negotiate down in price. La Ong Dao Hotel 1 and 2 are also a bit far and the reviews aren't so great any more. The massage places near Scandinavian bakery only had aunties so far as I could see. One taxi driver seemed to be saying he could call a girl for me. I wish I had taken him up on that.

My overall opinion of Vientiane is that it's better than almost all the spots in Europe or the USA (you can score here at a reasonable price), but I wouldn't rank it high within asia (not in the top 15 cities). I also wouldn't really recommend it for tourism. The food is not great compared to Thailand, and most things aren't as cheap as you might expect given the infrastructure. It's not especially easy to get around. I suppose I'd like it more if Thailand didn't exist, but it really suffers from the obvious comparison. I wanted to like this place, but didn't and probably won't return.

I had some luck (HJ) with a different girl at the not-wearing-uniform massage shop on Chao Anou. So it's an option if you're tired of the other venues. BTW, whe expressed that she was willing to do a FS hotel visit, but wanted 8 k! She'd probably come negotiate down, but I didn't bother because that rarely works for me when we start so far apart and because she was thicker than I like 'them.

[QUOTE=Pwrmnd;2199764]I had some luck (HJ) with a different girl at the not-wearing-uniform massage shop on Chao Anou. So it's an option if you're tired of the other venues. BTW, whe expressed that she was willing to do a FS hotel visit, but wanted 8 k! She'd probably come negotiate down, but I didn't bother because that rarely works for me when we start so far apart and because she was thicker than I like 'them.[/QUOTE]Like you I tried multiple massage joints with no luck besides pretty good massages. Then I found the goldmine where the provider not only offered relief but she immediately went for BBBJ. Pricey, yes, but expert service. She met me at my hotel a few times, and although a very attractive MILF, lets just say her body was made for BBBJ.

So next month I will be tramping through Saigon and Cambodia and I am looking at going to Vientiane on the side but internet airfare appears to be around $240 from SGN and Phnom Penh. That will give my wallet dyspepsia. Do you guys know some tricks or strategy for getting better airfares? Overland transportation seems to involve 18 hour bus rides and more and that is not an appetizing option.

I tried a different massage place today. Cute girl, but no extras. I'm leaving tomorrow and not too broken up about it.

First night was a wipe out as I was tired from travelling. My friend from Tagged picked me up and drove me around to see Buddha park and have a relaxing afternoon by the river. After dinner she made me comfortable and we enjoyed each other until she returned home. Tagged worked very well. Next day, she drove me to the casino by the Friendship bridge. Lovely French wine upstairs in the casino, joking with the Thai gamblers and losing 500 baht. Then, more fun in the evening by the deserted rooftop pool. Following day, she went to her job so I looked for a massage parlour. White Lotus was OK, and a lady named Pon made sure the ending was happy. I met some French guys with their Lao girls by the pool and the girls told me that they were freelancers from Bor Ban Yang bar by the river and night market. Attractive girls in bikinis. They told me to go after 10 pm and to be aware of the many LBs. Another pick up spot is the Mekong hotel karaoke. Ladyboys on the street by the fountain.

Many authentic French and Italian restaurants with wonderful bread. I will return.

I have the best luck finding girls on the social apps such as Bee Talk, Badoo, and We chat. Hit them up after you arrive and arrange dates. On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. They don't even ask to register your female quest. To make a long story short, I fucked like crazy for 4 days straight BB and CIP. This trip I gave up on the Viet girls and stuck to the local scene. This will be my go to plan in the future every time. Looking forward to my next trip in January. This place is full of freebies and pay for play. It is like Bangkok was 10 years ago with the faring popularity phenomenon with the ladies. One piece of advice though. You need a little class. Don't be like the local expats. Dress nice, take the lady to a nice place for dinner and you will be fucking for free if you want. In 4 days, I fucked 4 P4P ladies and 3 local girls for free. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2252598]I have the best luck finding girls on the social apps such as Bee Talk, Badoo, and We chat. Hit them up after you arrive and arrange dates. On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. Enjoy![/QUOTE]The price is in Thai Baht?

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2252628]The price is in Thai Baht?[/QUOTE]Yes. Did you think it was in Laos Kip? LOL you make me laugh as everyone knows Laos Kip and Thai Baht are the 2 currencies used in Laos.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2252598]On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. They don't even ask to register your female quest. <SNIP>
You need a little class. Don't be like the local expats. Dress nice, take the lady to a nice place for dinner and you will be fucking for free if you want. [/QUOTE]Good outcome for you BD. Great report.

I don't think I would call Anou Paradise Hotel a "boutique" hotel though, as that implies it is small and selective and more expensive. At best it's a 2-star hotel and far from selective. I have used it as my "second" hotel for a 1-night booking when I knew I was going to get lucky. My work arrangements and colleagues prevented me from taking friends to my regular hotel because I needed to be discreet.

Good tip for a place to use though that is free from any problems. As you said, the bar next door is linked to the hotel so it doubles as a ST place for bar clients. 1500 THB (or just under 400, 000 LAK) is still the going rate so that's good for you too.

I'll be in Vientiane next month; I understand that it's technically illegal to have a Laotian woman visit you in your hotel room. From the information here, do I understand that this is not well-enforced? Is having a Vietnamese woman visit you a loophole?

Just looking to see if anyone has an update on any new or reliable massage parlors for he. I'm aware of the Plaza Hotel, but looking for something different if possible. Thanks!

[QUOTE=VaSteve;2259275]I'll be in Vientiane next month; I understand that it's technically illegal to have a Laotian woman visit you in your hotel room. From the information here, do I understand that this is not well-enforced? Is having a Vietnamese woman visit you a loophole?[/QUOTE]I had no problem at the Lao Poet Hotel. My lady friend was chatting to the hotel manager. French guys had their Lao girls there as well.

[QUOTE=Bkkmc;2277827]Just looking to see if anyone has an update on any new or reliable massage parlors for he. I'm aware of the Plaza Hotel, but looking for something different if possible. Thanks![/QUOTE]I've been trying a different massage place in Vientiane every week but have not found one where FS is offered. Only HJ that is overpriced asking 200,000 kip, no thanks, I can give myself a HJ for free. And can get FS for 150,000 at a beer bar. But I am looking for places for daytime fun if anybody can answer the questions let me know!

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2322671]I've been trying a different massage place in Vientiane every week but have not found one where FS is offered. Only HJ that is overpriced asking 200,000 kip, no thanks, I can give myself a HJ for free. And can get FS for 150,000 at a beer bar. But I am looking for places for daytime fun if anybody can answer the questions let me know![/QUOTE]Where are the beer bars or do you mean the knocking shop hovels?

[QUOTE=Buksida1;2322928]Where are the beer bars or do you mean the knocking shop hovels?[/QUOTE]Knocking shop hovels. Haha. Yes. They have not figured out how to make it an enjoyable experience yet like Cambodia or Thailand. Would be nice if there was a pool table in some or they weren't on such busy roads not very discrete. And I hate karaoke.

My experience is 1/3 starfish waste of time, 1/3 perfectly acceptable for a quickly, 1/3 a good time girl with a good attitude that I would repeat, but don't because there is just so many girls. Better performance if you have a beer with them first. But have to keep in mind for 150,000 kip, who really gives a toss. It's almost free. Cheapest in SE Asia I think.

But I'm still searching for that daytime elusive action.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2322671]I've been trying a different massage place in Vientiane every week but have not found one where FS is offered. Only HJ that is overpriced asking 200,000 kip, no thanks, I can give myself a HJ for free. And can get FS for 150,000 at a beer bar. But I am looking for places for daytime fun if anybody can answer the questions let me know![/QUOTE]They are exists, but be prepared to pay premium. I've been to 5 real massage shops where I got FS.

1st one is within 2 km of the bus station at the end of Sithong road. Got offered by the 24 YO cute massage girl 5 minutes after massage begin. She did not have condom so we did BBFS. About 9 PM.

2nd one is within 3 KM of Angkham hotel. About 40 minutes of massage, the girl starting to touch the the and asked if I want extra and ask how much I want to pay. I offered 150 K wich accepted. I thought it was going to be HJ but she started to strip and pull condom from her clutch. The girs is a bit big but not bad to look at. About 3 PM.

3rd one is within 3 KM of ITECC. Very pretty massage girl, 23 YO, nice body. 50 minutes in, she "accidentally" remove the towel. I ask if she can do FS and then She asked how much I would pay. I begin with 1000 Baht but she laugh. She said it will need more than that. Ended up paying 2000 Baht. Worth the price. About 5 PM.

4th one is within 3 KM of Kolao tower. The massage girl wear short jeans. 40 minutes in, she began to "accidentally" rubs my leg to her thigh and then sit in a position so I can see backside of her thigh. She then put my hand on her leg. 50 minutes in, she said we have 10 minutes left and ask what else need to be massaged. I point to the the and she said 300 K LAK. Again, I thought its going to be HJ but then she stripped and pull out condom. This one is GFE. Nice body with average face. About 4 PM.

5th one is within 50 mtrs of the 4th one. Another one with short pants. 20 minutes in, the girl asked if she can remove the towel (exposing my whole backside) to make the message easier. I said sure. And then the message went normally. After finish with my back she put the towel back and asked me to turn. 5 minutes after she ask I the towel can be removed again. Of course I said yes and exposed my boner. She never offer anything so I pointed to the the and ask if she can do that. She asked for 200 K LAK for hand job and allowed me to grope her. I asked again if she willing to do FS. She said she would for 700 K more. 8:30 PM.

6th one is a quite famous real massage shop within 3 KM of Vientiane Center. I had 3 x FS at this shop on the course of 6 visits. On my first visit the girl was a very nice looking 25 YO with very tight body. Did not offer extra but I misunderstood her question which led to FS. Had to pay 1 M LAK. Other visits after that only got HJ with different message girls (they are all have above average face to very pretty) at ridiculous price. Most of them will do FS if the price us right. On the last 2 visits I met this absolutely gorgeous massage girl with excellent body. As usual, HJ was offered at the end of the session with ridiculous price. I accepted the offer and she started to do the action. She then asked why didn't I touch her at all. I then asked if she would do FS. She was reluctant and said maybe next time. But then she changed her mind and asked how much I would pay. I offered all numbers from 700 K to 1 M but she insist on 1.2 M. I went ahead and it was the best experience I had on that shop.

One thing you need to remember, these girls are not prostitutes by trade. They are masseuses who happen to enjoy sex and looking for extra pocket money. So don't approach them as you would with prostitutes and don't expect to pay the same rate (the rate is high because they risk to lose their job if got caught). Make some conversation during the massage and better again if you can make some jokes. If they repeatedly touch you in sensitive areas, it might be a sign but don't assume its a 100% guaranty. Look at their face, if they keep smiling while your boner is in display, ask politely if they can help it. Most of the time they will offer HJ but then its open for more if you were in a private room or no other person around.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2323473]But I'm still searching for that daytime elusive action.[/QUOTE]I tried to post earlier, but for some reason my post is not showing up, so here I go again:

They are exists, but be prepared to pay premium. I've been to 5 real massage shops where I got FS.

1st one is within 2 km of the bus station at the end of Sithong road. Got offered by the 24 YO cute massage girl 5 minutes after massage begin. She did not have condom so we did BBFS. About 9 PM.

2nd one is within 3 KM of Angkham hotel. About 40 minutes of massage, the girl starting to touch the the and asked if I want extra and ask how much I want to pay. I offered 150 K wich accepted. I thought it was going to be HJ but she started to strip and pull condom from her clutch. The girs is a bit big but not bad to look at. About 3 PM.

3rd one is within 3 KM of ITECC. Very pretty massage girl, 23 YO, nice body. 50 minutes in, she "accidentally" remove the towel. I ask if she can do FS and then She asked how much I would pay. I begin with 1000 Baht but she laugh. She said it will need more than that. Ended up paying 2000 Baht. Worth the price. About 5 PM.

4th one is within 3 KM of Kolao tower. The massage girl wear short jeans. 40 minutes in, she began to "accidentally" rubs my leg to her thigh and then sit in a position so I can see backside of her thigh. She then put my hand on her leg. 50 minutes in, she said we have 10 minutes left and ask what else need to be massaged. I point to the the and she said 300 K LAK. Again, I thought its going to be HJ but then she stripped and pull out condom. This one is GFE. Nice body with average face. About 4 PM.

5th one is within 50 mtrs of the 4th one. Another one with short pants. 20 minutes in, the girl asked if she can remove the towel (exposing my whole backside) to make the message easier. I said sure. And then the message went normally. After finish with my back she put the towel back and asked me to turn. 5 minutes after she ask I the towel can be removed again. Of course I said yes and exposed my boner. She never offer anything so I pointed to the the and ask if she can do that. She asked for 200 K LAK for hand job and allowed me to grope her. I asked again if she willing to do FS. She said she would for 700 K more. 8:30 PM.

6th one is a quite famous real massage shop within 3 KM of Vientiane Center. I had 3 x FS at this shop on the course of 6 visits. On my first visit the girl was a very nice looking 25 YO with very tight body. Did not offer extra but I misunderstood her question which led to FS. Had to pay 1 M LAK. Other visits after that only got HJ with different message girls (they are all have above average face to very pretty) at ridiculous price. Most of them will do FS if the price us right. On the last 2 visits I met this absolutely gorgeous massage girl with excellent body. As usual, HJ was offered at the end of the session with ridiculous price. I accepted the offer and she started to do the action. She then asked why didn't I touch her at all. I then asked if she would do FS. She was reluctant and said maybe next time. But then she changed her mind and asked how much I would pay. I offered all numbers from 700 K to 1 M but she insist on 1.2 M. I went ahead and it was the best experience I had on that shop.

One thing you need to remember, these girls are not prostitutes by trade. They are masseuses who happen to enjoy sex and looking for extra pocket money. So don't approach them as you would with prostitutes and don't expect to pay the same rate (the rate is high because they risk to lose their job if got caught). Make some conversation during the massage and better again if you can make some jokes. If they repeatedly touch you in sensitive areas, it might be a sign but don't assume its a 100% guaranty. Look at their face, if they keep smiling while your boner is in display, ask politely if they can help it. Most of the time they will offer HJ but then its open for more if you were in a private room or no other person around.

Hello Negima,

Thank you for your response. There seems to be not a lot of interest in Vientiane probably because most sex places are outside of the Mekong area and not obvious to the casual tourist who is stuck due to the tuktuk ripoff.

Could you please give more accurate locations or names of the places so I can go searching?

I have had some more daytime experiences. I think you will know which places I am taking about.

First one is just off Sithong Road near a Mitsubishi dealership. FS covered in a massage at 2:00 PM. She asked 150,000 Kip. Average face and body. Funny thing about this place was I went back again the week after, picked a different girl, it was the worse massage ever and she wan't game for anything. So it just depends who you pick, sometimes lucky sometimes not. I will try again since there is usually about 12 girls lazing around, maybe ill get a better one next time.

Second one is in a Sitong Road massage, one of the two that are right next to each other across from the fuck hovels. BBFS CIP with an oil massage about 6:00 PM. Nice face and body. I offered her an oil massage and then just tore off her clothes, gave her the massage and then just stuck it in. She did not protest. Very gratifying. She did not ask for money but I tipped 300,000 kip for that one.

I would like to find some more daytime action, something to do on a boring Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2337158]I would like to find some more daytime action, something to do on a boring Saturday or Sunday afternoon.[/QUOTE]Had a horrible experience on that Mitsubishi one, about a year ago. 10 minutes in, the male owner came yelling and tried to force open the door of the room (nice room and bed BTW). I haven't done anything so it was safe and the girl opened the door. The owner looked at us for 5 seconds, and then just went away. I have no idea what was that about. Lost the mood and the massage finished in 30 minutes without anything extra. I know for sure this place is actually a f* shop cater for Chinese customer, every time I pass by at night time I saw the girls in revealing clothes.

The other one at Sithong, I lost interest. I talked to one of the girls while having a real massage, she told me the working condition is very bad and they don't get much.

The thing is, I actually go to massage shops for real massage because I have a bit of problem with my shoulder. So the massage quality is a big concern for me and if it ended up with something extra then it would be a welcome bonus. For that reason, I rarely return to a shop (most are hit and miss) and I don't really take a note of the place name. Also, I don't want there places and the workers to got into troubles. So I can give you only direction:

From the Sithong intersection, drive to the direction of the bus station. About 1 km ahead there is a Vietnamese massage shop on your right hand side, with big billboard. This is a f* shop that opens daytime with a bit older viet girls. Rate is 100 k for massage and 200 k more for action.

From above shop, if you drive further ahead about 2 KM there is a real massage shop on your right hand side. This is the 1st one on my prev post.

And if you drive further ahead, there are two Massage & Karaoke shops on your right hand side. I saw both opened as early as 3 PM. I never tried these massage+karaoke shop but they are 100% f* shops.

2nd one on my prev post: Drive from Patouxay to Donenuan direction until you see Angkham hotel on your left hand side. About 2 KM ahead there is a big intersection. Take a left turn and follow the first massage sign direction.

3rd one: Say you drive from Itecc mall exit, take a left turn and drive ahead about 2 KM. There will be a massage shop right next door or a music shop on your right hand side.

4th and 5th one: drive from vientiane center to the direction of Thadua road (opposite direction of morning market) and take a left turn on the first roundabout. Take a right turn on the next roundabout. Take a left turn at the intersection with the traffic light. Drive ahead and if you see massage shop attached to a hotel on your right hand side then you're in the right direction (I haven't tried this one, BTW). Drive ahead until you see small massage signboard on your right hand side. Take a right turn to the alley and you'll see the shop. This one is the 5th one on my prev post. The girls told me, if I want action guaranteed, better visit on the evening. But if you don't take this shop, you'll see another massage sign board on the next one or two alleys the same side of the road. This is the 4th one on my prev post. The owner of this place is a mid age lady who always wear short tight pants and seems happy to show her leg to visitors so I think she knows and approve the extra activity.

And the 6th one: From Vientiane center drive opposite direction of morning market. After the second roundabout, take a notice on the alleys on your left. I cannot remember the exact alley but I think its the second one, there is a nice massage shop with big signboard. This is a premium shop with expensive packages but I keep coming back to this place because the massage is good and the ladies are pretty.

Other that those, I had a stupid one last Monday. So I notice just opposite the road of Itecc exit, there is this one massage sign board pointing to an alley. So I follow the sign and arrived at the shop's quite big yard. A girl with tank top and miniskirt greeted me and point me to the reception. There was 3 girls sitting, all wearing short pants. The prettiest one keep staring at me, and I recognize her from other shop I visited view months ago. I pretend not to know her and just ignore the stare. One of the other two girls then ask me to follow her to the room. The massage then proceed for almost an hour. The girl did not offer anything but kept playing with my nipples. I then asked if she can do FS which she said okay with 500 K (she found out I'm not local because I answered one of her question with an incorrect pronunciation). So I gave the money and we screwed for 10 minutes while trying not to make any noises but all the sudden there this loud pounding sound from the next room for a full minute or so. Seems like they had an intense doggy. The girl got a bit annoyed by the sound and I just laughed. We then continue screwing for some more minutes without trying to be discreet anymore. At one point the girl asked if I want to do BBFS for a million. I said I don't have that kind of money. She then reached for my wallet and took whatever KIP left inside, I think it was 400 K. She asked if I have any disease and then proceed to examine my rod. Once she convinced then we continued with BBFS. Finished and exited the room, soaked with sweat and with no more kip in my wallet. I saw the girl who greeted me and some more girls at reception. I don't think I'll be back there sometime soon but that girl who greeted me is so tempting. Worst thing in this venture was I accidentally gave my active phone number to the girl who gave me the massage.

Regarding phone number, most of the massage girl I f*ed in Lao and Thai were asking for my contact info and almost all gave me theirs (which I rarely keep). I think I'm too easy money for them. I was lucky enough to get contact of one of the star at Vientiane Plaza (She's rarely seen there and she told me her boss rotate her too often just to give other girls fair chance). She always asked for BBFS with me (but I only did once. Too afraid) and she never counted the money I handed her. I once followed her when she was rotated to other province and deliberately stayed at the hotel where she worked. When she found out, she kept sneaking to my room for quickies and even cooked for me. I now cut off the contact with her because too much feeling involved. Last time I talked to her, she was back at HCMC visit her (very rich) sick father.

[QUOTE=Negima;2336399]I tried to post earlier, but for some reason my post is not showing up, so here I go again:[/QUOTE]Most likely because you're a new member, so your posts are first checked by an admin before they show up.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2337158]

Could you please give more accurate locations or names of the places so I can go searching?

[/QUOTE]Don't mention the names of the places nor the names of the girls here on the open board.

LE reads these boards and they will either close down these places or, more possibly, get in on their cut of the action.

Much better to use the PM service (available only to members of course). Negima and InfoSeeker are not able to PM or receive messages

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2337553]Most likely because you're a new member, so your posts are first checked by an admin before they show up.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I just realized this. There is a notification after post submitted but I missed that because I browse multiple tabs.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2337662]Don't mention the names of the places nor the names of the girls here on the open board.

LE reads these boards and they will either close down these places or, more possibly, get in on their cut of the action.

Much better to use the PM service (available only to members of course). Negima and InfoSeeker are not able to PM or receive messages[/QUOTE]Agree on not mentioning names.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2337158]I would like to find some more daytime action, something to do on a boring Saturday or Sunday afternoon.[/QUOTE]So today is good day if you want to try the directions in my last post, and I think you'll get lucky around ITECC.

[QUOTE=Negima;2338381]So today is good day if you want to try the directions in my last post, and I think you'll get lucky around ITECC.[/QUOTE]Hi Negima,

Thank you so much for the information. I'm back in Laos since I had to leave for a couple of weeks. I will start to go on a hunt very soon this weekend. Yes, we can't name names here but your directions are good for tracking them down to give them a shot. I like trying new massage places too since I have a bit of a lower back problem and a weekly massage keeps it in check.

I've noticed in the past few months that there are more and more shops on Sithong and T4 to try, but mostly only open at night. Lot's of choices here but mainly just for the locals.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2339596]I like trying new massage places too[/QUOTE]I noticed plenty of new ones (or maybe I just never noticed them before) around Dongdok / Donenuan intersection. Only tried 5 of them and got legit massage so far.

The one that is not too far from Lotteria is interesting. The massage girl on my visit was a pretty one with short pants and boobs was showing when she wash my feet. No extra offered whatsoever but she let me rub her leg. Told this a friend and he visited the place with FS as outcome. But this was few months ago, I heard no more short pants there.

I found a new massage with FS location today.

This was my second visit to this place. The first visit was at 9 PM, only 2 girls available, both wearing short pants. The one assigned to me was average looking but for a reason I was not interested so I ignore all the signs. When the massage finish, there were more girls at the reception, all with short pants, but one in particular is really attractive and wearing sexy dress revealing a tattoo on her back. She seems like not one of the worker because she sat separately and greet me and offered for drink.

So I paid another visit today, at 5 PM. I saw 5 girls sitting outside the house, all with short pants. I ask the owner (an elderly lady) if massage is available. She then assigned one of the girl which was another average looking one but with a nice pair of legs. She did not do much of the "accidental touch" but kept rubbing her thigh to my feet. 10 minutes before finished she asked if I want HJ for 200 K which I agreed. HJ was mediocre so I asked for FJ. The agreed amount was 700 K.

On the reception I was greeted by the same attractive tattooed lady from before, and there were 3 massage girls with sexy outfit sitting. I don't usually stay for the tea after massage but for this time I stay for a bit to enjoy the view.

Location is not too far from That Luang Plaza. If you drive from That Luang direction, take a right turn on the intersection which leads to ITECC. About 2 or 3 KM from the intersection, look on your right for a massage signboard with yellow background and black letter. Follow the sign and you'll find a big massage house on your left.

There are two garden style places, compounds really, with karaoke room, restaurant and open air covered drinking huts. They are about 2-3 km down Sithong Road after the busy intersection with the Mitsubishi dealership. Both are on the right going towards the bus station but before the two massage places mentioned by Negima, I think.

You can drive right in and park so its very discrete and your Mia will never find you there.

Maybe 10 pusao in each place and both places are frequented by more by Chinese customers. These are no high end karaoke places, low prices for beer, food and everything else. But at least they have bucket showers in the rooms. Pusao 170,000 KIP, I think 20,000 goes for the room but maybe I pay a 20,000 KIP falang tax. The one I had ST was well worth it.

In both places the pusao (all Lao) ask for food to be bought, and they all seem to be starving haha. But food is not pricey so it's OK. They actually have an nice atmosphere, can sit outside and drink and eat, no blaring music in your ears. Also not on the side of the road with people peering in at you as they walk by.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2344603]There are two garden style places, compounds really, with karaoke room, restaurant and open air covered drinking huts. They are about 2-3 km down Sithong Road after the busy intersection with the Mitsubishi dealership. Both are on the right going towards the bus station but before the two massage places mentioned by Negima, I think.[/QUOTE]These two places indeed have better atmosphere and more discreet than the others. Well, to be frank, most of local mongers don't even know this section of the road. My Lao friends surprised when I told them about the existence of these fun places.

Actually if you explore the Sithong intersection, you will find that all 4 roads got fun places. The one opposite side of mitsubishi is rarely mentioned but you can find quite a few local establishment there.

Anyway, back to the massage scene, I found one massage with FS shop not far from donenouane / dongdok intersection. I went there around 6 PM and the shop is about to close already. A pretty lady with sexy outfit attend me to the private massage room which is spacious and equipped with a bathroom and a nice sofa. I thought to my self that the place is a 100% fake massage shop.

To my surprise, the massage was the best I ever had since a long long while. The lady told me she actually went to massage course at Pakse. During the first 40 minutes, she never touch my sensitive area but she kept rubbing her tight to my mine. I was unsure whether she'll offer anything extra or all the rubs where unintentional. But then again, hes clothing is definitely a prostitute's clothing.

I did not want to lose any chance so I asked her if I can extend 30 minutes more. I think she understood my intention, so after saying yes, she remove my towel completely and began making accidental touches. After one hour passed, she finally asked the long awaited question. The agreed amount was 300 K Kip, on top the massage price. The service was okay, and not your typical 150 K-is service. I found out that the sofa was there to allow more variation and to make it easier to eat the lady.

Actually its hard for me to share this place and I want to keep it secret, but we're here to share between each other, so here is how you can find the place:

Drive from the city to donenouan / dongdok direction via main road. When you passed the big intersection, drive for 2 or 3 km more and then slow down and look for a building on your left hand side with LK neon sign on the roof. Drive slowly and take the road shoulder, look on your right hand side for a massage signboard about 100 mtrs ahead. The signboard is kinda hard to notice so drive slowly. If you drive passed a fuel station then you have missed it and unfortunately it will be hard to make you-turn. The massage shop is 100 meter inside the alley.

Hi Negima,

You certainly get far out of town on your expeditions. I think the further out you go the cheaper and younger and sexier the girls will get. I wonder how Tha Ngon would be with all those restaurants on the river there must be many places to go for boom boom as well.

I went to the #4 and #5.

#4 Weeknight 7:00 PM had a Lao massage not successful getting extras, did not ask, since did not want girl assigned. Not many girls there maybe gone out for dinner. Massage OK.

#5 Saturday 2:00 PM went into this one and was surprised the girls sitting around very sexy drinking beer. I knew immediately upon entry this would be a good one. A girl was assigned (sexy and cute but a bit bigger than average build, a great attitude) and I went for the oil massage. Within five minutes she was rubbing all around my privates as the blood flow to that area increased and I moved her hand to stroke it and she was game. I asked her to come closer and started touching her. I asked how much for boom boom and she said 500,000 and I took of her clothes. BBFS very nice indeed. When I went out there were a couple more girls there giggling. They obviously knew what went on. Funny.

Sithong scare. Further out along Sithong Friday night at 10:00, past the two sex compounds I wrote about earlier. It was a busy night at the closer to town sex shacks many customers and girls looked tired so I was exploring for other places. On the right going towards the bus station there is a small cluster with a KTV with a couple of restaurants all with girls and they weren't busy. I go up to one place and the girl immediately says: See Gan bor? And shows me her phone with 150,000 kip on it. How could I say no? I would have picked her anyway beautiful girl, attitude and smile. Well worth the money, covered FS. Turns out she was actually Vietnamese. My friend had a great experience with his girl as well who was Lao. Anyway as we left my friend says there are police. I look across the road and see a police pick up truck parked there. WTF! Game over thoughts are going through my head. How much will this one cost me. I have obvious farang status and my friend is foreigner as well. I resign myself to my fate and just calmly put on my helmet get on motorbike and drive off the sidewalk pick up my friend and speed away as fast as I can. They luckily did not follow. Note to self to next time peek around on the road before leaving an establishment.

I also saw 4 or 5 massage places in that area of Sithong I must try.

You probably know about this one but recently I discovered a new place. On the main same road as #4 and #5 above. A hotel where you drive in the back and the two pimps open a window for you to view the many young beautiful pusao inside. The window resembled a McDonald's drive through window a little and I had a craving for some french fries. Guy said 300,000 KIP, not sure if that includes room. I tried to negotiate 150,000 but they would not accept. It was too late 1 AM and I had been drinking so I declined, but I'll definitely go back some other time. There is also a big KTV on that road next to Grand Hotel. I did a drive by. Looks very high end.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2346898]Hi Negima,

You certainly get far out of town on your expeditions.[/QUOTE]This might have to do with me being single and live alone in this country, I figure I might as well take whatever it can offer. I have set my footprint between Luang Prabang to Campasak, but I think Vientiane is still in top 3 both in quantity and quality.

As for Tha Ngon, I never stay for long there but I think its more of a family oriented spot. I Believe Thalat is the same.

The two places you mentioned at the end of your post was quite famous few years back but the quality of the girls was declining so they were gone from the radar. Nice to hear that they're upping the game.

I think you don't need to worry too much about patrol. I believe they're looking for drugs and weapons. Three times already I saw the patrol did bodysearch around Sithong, but the girls at the houses, the guards, and the mongers don't seem to care.

Recently more Viet houses opened in Dongdok. I was trying Cityplex theatre, finished early at 8 PM and decided to stroll the area. Spotted 7 houses, I'm certain all are Viet. Funny thing is most of the houses have the rolling doors fully scrolled down so the girls look like some sexy prisoner in jail. Didn't try any of them but I'm very sure they are 150 K-ish.

For those not wanting to deal with tuk-tuk in Vientiane, there's a local ridesharing app, called LOCA ([URL]https://www.loca.la/[/URL]) There's no need for credit card; pay cash at drop-off. Local SIM is not required (I registered using my T-Mobile's free unlimited global roaming SMS & internet.) I couldn't get my visa card approved, so cash it was. Still, the app provided itemized receipt; useful for those claiming travel expenses. Unlike Uber / Lyft / Didi / Grab, the fare is an estimate when booked. The final price (in kips) is determined at drop-off, to account for actual distance traveled and time interval. So, I screen-capture the route & estimated fare before pressing Confirmation button, just in case.

During the day, there are half to a dozen drivers around old city area, but scarce after 10 pm. And, none available after 1 am. No big deal, since most places shutdown before midnight.

Negima and Infoseeker, nice info. I can understand not naming names, but it makes it hard for others to find. .

And you seem to not be able to receive PMs. I would love some additional info, especially if you can point me to places in town for massage with BJ.

If you join, send my PM.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Swpc10;2361202]Negima and Infoseeker, nice info. I can understand not naming names, but it makes it hard for others to find. .

And you seem to not be able to receive PMs. I would love some additional info, especially if you can point me to places in town for massage with BJ.

If you join, send my PM.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi there,

Massage with BJ is hard to find, and even harder to find consistently. I have actually never had both together despite trying. I know one guy that got lucky. Actually you are more likely to get BBFS CIP than CBJ which is weird given the risk profiles of each to the girl you would think the opposite. But Laos is the land that logic forgot.

Best to separate them. Go for a massage or go for boom boom / BJ. In the Massage you can ask the girl but they just will likely just want to give an expensive HJ for the price of a boom boom in the fuck shacks. Or a boom boom at double to triple the fuck shacks.

Viet girls are more likely to give a BJ, lao girls very rarely. But if you go in asking for a BJ even the Viet girls will want more money. Best to see if they start on it and if they do then try to get them to continue.

To try and get a BJ go to the Viet places on Sithong Road after 8:30 PM. There may be others I don't know about. Ask a tuk tuk driver to take you, if you negotiate with them they will take you to Sithong and wait for you to finish for 50,000 kip.

I'm still looking for elusive daytime action.

Thanks.

There is a massage place, mentioned on another site. One that sounds like what you shoot into space.

Good massage, and will do HJ, BJ, or FS. BJ is finish by hand.

[QUOTE=Swpc10;2362366]Thanks.

There is a massage place, mentioned on another site. One that sounds like what you shoot into space.

Good massage, and will do HJ, BJ, or FS. BJ is finish by hand.[/QUOTE]As said by at InfoSeeker, its easier to get BBFS than BJ with Lao girls. My whole time in this country, more than 3 years, only once I got a BJ from Lao girl.

Viet girls is different story. If you go to the Plaza hotel, its parts of the SOP.

[QUOTE=Negima;2364342]As said by at InfoSeeker, its easier to get BBFS than BJ with Lao girls. My whole time in this country, more than 3 years, only once I got a BJ from Lao girl.

Viet girls is different story. If you go to the Plaza hotel, its parts of the SOP.[/QUOTE]My experience is quite the opposite. I believe I wrote up my forays several years ago, but I got regular massage and oral from a MILF, but the one time I had her come to my room the FS reminded me only of how much I enjoyed her oral.

Anyone have any intel on this place? Staying here a few nights and they have a spa. Also saw a few massage places up the street. Any intel on these would be great as well. Hard to communicate when I can't speak a word of Lao.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=XFactor414;2371814]Anyone have any intel on this place? Staying here a few nights and they have a spa. Also saw a few massage places up the street. Any intel on these would be great as well. Hard to communicate when I can't speak a word of Lao.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I never stayed at that hotel, but I know its a very popular hotel for tourist from China and Vietnam and also for foreigners doing Thailand visa run, so I doubt that the spa is anything like Vientiane Plaza, but I could be wrong.

As for the message places on the same road, all are real massage with shared room except the one that is hidden behind a bigger building, but I never got offer for extra on any of that places.

Radius 2 KM from that hotel, along the main street, there is a fck house with Viet girls open only at night time.

[QUOTE=XFactor414;2371814]Anyone have any intel on this place? Staying here a few nights and they have a spa. Also saw a few massage places up the street. Any intel on these would be great as well. Hard to communicate when I can't speak a word of Lao.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tried a couple of parlors on that road. All legit and didn't offer anything extra. Matter of fact, the had you wear hospital looking pants which had string ties along the sides (similar to adidas tear away warm up pants). Also was given a top to wear that looked similar to hospital gown. Had a private room. Massage was below average with no hint of extras but I was fine with that because there weren't any attractive masseuses. They had on purple polo shirt with blue jeans. This was across the street from hotel and to the left if you're looking at street from hotel.

Also tried another place on same side of hotel but to the right. Only got the foot massage. Great foot massage.

Had a good experience at the hotel spa. Lots of Korean and Chinese visitors. PM for details.

Hello guys,

I am new to this place and have time only after 8 pm so someone please guide me about pick up bars here. It would be grateful as I don't have much time here will be only here for 3 days. I like to go with local or Chinese girl please suggest me the pick up bar.

Have done a couple of border runs to Laos recently. Did not monger on either trip.

Am much more experienced in Thailand.

Firsly which city is best for mongering Vientiane (Wingjan) or LuangPhrabang, or some other city (with easy flight access or a good border crossing place). ?

I may slightly prefer southern Lao looks, but no big deal I guess.

How difficult is it to have a young girl go to your Hotel room in Laos? Does it depend greatly on the Hotel or which town?
I have been reading up on Vientiane Hotels and Mongering joints, so the question is more about variation across different cities.

E. g. I know a young girl lives in rural area close to Savanakhet. Would it be realistic for her to stay with me in my Hotel in Savanakhet? She is probably scared to be seen by locals that know her, so I maybe better to stay further away.

Sorry if the questions are a bit difficult to answer easily.

I do speak Thai and understand Laos moderately and can even read Lao script somewhat. So language barrier is not really there for me. If I went to Cambodia, obviously language barrier would be there.

I have no experience report in Laos as yet (many for Thailand), but aim to rectify that in the future.

I found more options available in Luang Prabang. I did not invite any girl to my room although the possibility does exist. I mostly visited the so called chicken farms and massage parlours. Language is barrier as Laos girls don't speak English while Viets can exchange few words.

In Vientiane, I invited a girl to my room without a problem. We communicated through WeChat. When she came, I found that she is a Chinese national and communicates through Google Translate and it was indeed difficult.

Others may have different views.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2378251] Firsly which city is best for mongering Vientiane (Wingjan) or Luang Phrabang, or some other city (with easy flight access or a good border crossing place) ? [/QUOTE]

What kind of place is it? Where would it be located?

[QUOTE=Negima;2372368]Radius 2 KM from that hotel, along the main street, there is a fck house with Viet girls open only at night time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AnonymJD;2391806]What kind of place is it? Where would it be located?[/QUOTE]It's a fcuk house disguised as beer bar. If you coming from Muang Tranh hotel to the main street, take a right turn and look at left hand side of the road a beer bar with dim light just about a hunded meters before the traffic light.

Found a nice high end massage & fck place today. The ladies and other workers are all Chinese and no one speaks English or Lao / Thai in the premise.

The room is spacy with a big round bed, tv, and shower with wet massage bed.

Start with shower and scrub, followed by body slide, cat bath, rimming, light BBBJ, and bareback rubbing. Move to bed and got light massage, another cat bath, BBBJ, 69, and then main course. Another shower and bye bye. I always tip, no different here, but strangely the lady refuse it. I half force her to take it but she insist not to. The lady is quite pretty, slim, small boobs, tight body and white skin. P is hairy and she does not shave her arm pit. I guess this is Chinese men fetish.

There are several different service packages ranging from 1 million KIP (1 shot) to 2 million KIP (unlimited).

Location is inside a hotel in Chinatown area, about 3 KM from airport. Went there 5 pm but I saw it open earlier.

[QUOTE=Negima;2397201]Found a nice high end massage & fck place today. The ladies and other workers are all Chinese and no one speaks English or Lao / Thai in the premise.

The room is spacy with a big round bed, tv, and shower with wet massage bed.

Start with shower and scrub, followed by body slide, cat bath, rimming, light BBBJ, and bareback rubbing. Move to bed and got light massage, another cat bath, BBBJ, 69, and then main course. Another shower and bye bye. I always tip, no different here, but strangely the lady refuse it. I half force her to take it but she insist not to. The lady is quite pretty, slim, small boobs, tight body and white skin. P is hairy and she does not shave her arm pit. I guess this is Chinese men fetish.

There are several different service packages ranging from 1 million KIP (1 shot) to 2 million KIP (unlimited).

Location is inside a hotel in Chinatown area, about 3 KM from airport. Went there 5 pm but I saw it open earlier.[/QUOTE]You remember the name from the hotel?

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2399277]You remember the name from the hotel?[/QUOTE]I do, but if I write it here then my post will get deleted.

I can tell you the general direction though. If you come from airport to the city, take a left turn on the first intersection and follow the road until you see building complex with Chinese neon signs on the left side of the road. The hotel is two or three buildings after the Athens apartment gate and two or three buildings before a big KTV. It has a yellow signboard with Lao and Chinese writing and only "Spa+Hotel" in alphabeth.

[QUOTE=Negima;2399339]I do, but if I write it here then my post will get deleted.

I can tell you the general direction though. If you come from airport to the city, take a left turn on the first intersection and follow the road until you see building complex with Chinese neon signs on the left side of the road. The hotel is two or three buildings after the Athens apartment gate and two or three buildings before a big KTV. It has a yellow signboard with Lao and Chinese writing and only "Spa+Hotel" in alphabeth.[/QUOTE]Thankyou!

A big thankyou!

I plan to go to Vientiane around 20th January and think to stay in LAO ORCHID hotel. I is it girlfriendly?

On this time somebody also in Vientiane to help me to find the locations for happy end massage and meeting pounts for girls?

I'm German

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2402785]I plan to go to Vientiane around 20th January and think to stay in LAO ORCHID hotel. I is it girlfriendly?

On this time somebody also in Vientiane to help me to find the locations for happy end massage and meeting pounts for girls?

I'm German[/QUOTE]Lao Orchid is kinda girl friendly. You can enter the lift from parking lot and avoid the receptionists. The security guy may ask some questions, but you'll have no big issues, only little annoyance. Sabaidee at Lao hotel is within walking distance to the Viet massage place. There are some hotels nearby the redlight district but I'm not sure if they accept online booking.

[QUOTE=Negima;2403153]Lao Orchid is kinda girl friendly. You can enter the lift from parking lot and avoid the receptionists. The security guy may ask some questions, but you'll have no big issues, only little annoyance. Sabaidee at Lao hotel is within walking distance to the Viet massage place. There are some hotels nearby the redlight district but I'm not sure if they accept online booking.[/QUOTE]The Viet massage place is with happy end?

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2403482]The Viet massage place is with happy end?[/QUOTE]There are 2 Viet massage close to Sabaidee at Lao Hotel. Both are brothels. Many testimonies in this thread few posts / pages back.

[QUOTE=Negima;2403153]There are some hotels nearby the redlight district but I'm not sure if they accept online booking.[/QUOTE]Where is the red light distrct?

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1442107]There is very little activity on the whole Laos board now.

Is it because few people are travelling in Vientiane?

Is there a dead nightlife scene? (I can't believe that)

How about Bor Pen Yang? Still a potential hang-out?

Other updates? I hope to be there late July to mid-August. It would be good to have some recent news on the scene.[/QUOTE]Everything is closed due to the virus. Hardly any cases though. Its so bleak here.

I took a drive around and literally everything is closed and there's no girls around.

Anybody have an idea of any massage places open? Any fuck shops? Where to get some girls?

I'm starting to go crazy.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2445077]Where to get some girls?[/QUOTE]Maybe they are online? You can try WeChat.

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2445077]Everything is closed due to the virus. Hardly any cases though. Its so bleak here.
[/QUOTE]Infoseeker. Do you realize that you responded to a post I made on April 7, 2013.

Even the 18 year olds are 25 now.

Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2446669]Maybe they are online? You can try WeChat.[/QUOTE]I am currently trying we chat but not a lot of success, none actually. The problem is most of the country girls went home away from Vientiane so are not even in the city. Vientiane girls usually have a bit of money from family so aren't so desperate.

Its funny one girl on we chat posted a screenshot of her we chat and there were about 10 "Good Morning" messages from horny guys. Haha.

Tinder and Badoo are a waste of time, no responses and maybe a lot of the profiles are fake anyway. Just endless waste of time texting.

Hopefully it will all end soon.

Met a girl from Badoo about a month ago. Working girl but normally just asked for like 30 USD and then she would stick around for 1-2 full days. Around 25 years old not a great looker but got an ok body and the sex has been amazing. She does everything to please, BBBJ, rimming, deep throat and anal. Stupid as I am I always fucked her without a condom but it was great, she's the first girl who ever managed to take my dick balls deep in her throat and I loved seeing the bulge.

Anything negative about her? Well she did give me gonorrhea so I had to eat some medicine and stopped seeing her because I know when I'm drunk I would fuck her without a condom again LOL. Don't regret it though just happy I didn't catch anything more serious.

After curing my drippy dick for a while and refraining from meeting new girls I went back on Badoo to see what I could find. Started talking to a 26 year old good looking hairdresser. Her English seemed ok so we decided to have dinner the same evening.

She insisted on picking me up at 6 pm on her motorbike but arrived 7:30, not a good start to say the least. Her English was not good at all and I found out she had been using a translation app to chat with me. Normally that's easy to spot but only chatted for about 1 hour before agreeing to meet so maybe that's why. It was almost impossible to have any conversation at all so halfway through the date I thought to myself I should just politely tell her that I'm not interested. After a few beers though my dick had other plans and she really looked good so we went back to my hotel.

After sitting on the balcony and drinking a bit we went to take a shower together. Her body was so nice and skin so smooth, no babies too so no stretchmark's. We went to the bend and she started to suck me off before she sat on my dick. No condom again, do I never learn? Anyway after riding me a while I put her in doggy style and fucked her really hard while firmly pulling her hair. Didn't take too long before I came inside her pussy. What is it with Lao girls and not wanting to use a condom? I didn't complain and she didn't seem to care that I just came inside her.

The next morning I asked how much she wanted because I was sure she was a working girl, she kind of took offense to my question and refused any kind of payment and said through her translator that she just wanted to have a good time and that she had fun last night. I kept meeting her 4-5 times and she never wanted any money but in the end I had to stop seeing her because she was insanely jealous even though I told her I never wanted anything serious.

[QUOTE=LuddeBoy;2515936]Met a girl from Badoo about a month ago. Working girl but normally just asked for like 30 USD and then she would stick around for 1-2 full days. Around 25 years old not a great looker but got an ok body and the sex has been amazing. She does everything to please, BBBJ, rimming, deep throat and anal. Stupid as I am I always fucked her without a condom but it was great, she's the first girl who ever managed to take my dick balls deep in her throat and I loved seeing the bulge.

Anything negative about her? Well she did give me gonorrhea so I had to eat some medicine and stopped seeing her because I know when I'm drunk I would fuck her without a condom again LOL. Don't regret it though just happy I didn't catch anything more serious.[/QUOTE]Does Laos hotels have restrictions for single girls staying overnight?

[QUOTE=Sammon;2516329]Does Laos hotels have restrictions for single girls staying overnight?[/QUOTE]Some of the cheaper hotels I've stayed in have rules that says you can only stay with a girl if she checks in together with you. Other hotels have seen me come and go with girls but never said anything about it.

Is the plaza massage place open? Did the Vietnamese women return?

What about the other massage places where the masseurs would request some money for their families in exchange for sex?

And then those massage shops towards the airport, are they back in business? I found some pretty amazing Chinese and Vietnamese women in them when I visited lao just before the pandemic.

Any cheap-ish places in VTE to get BBBJ CIM? How much can I expect to pay?

Be careful. Highly resistant Gonorrhea strain is now also in Laos. I caught it. No pills worked. Thank God a local doctor had experience with this: Only 4 consecutive days of 30 minute Intravenous Antibiotic got rid of it. Chlamydia has similar symptoms but has not become resistant, so usual Antibiotic pills still work.

[QUOTE=BoomBoom0;2577828]Be careful. Highly resistant Gonorrhea strain is now also in Laos. I caught it. No pills worked. Thank God a local doctor had experience with this: Only 4 consecutive days of 30 minute Intravenous Antibiotic got rid of it. Chlamydia has similar symptoms but has not become resistant, so usual Antibiotic pills still work.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Where did you find this local doctor? I might need his expertise as well. Can't find any place to take the test and get some treatment.

[QUOTE=LuddeBoy;2516878]Some of the cheaper hotels I've stayed in have rules that says you can only stay with a girl if she checks in together with you. Other hotels have seen me come and go with girls but never said anything about it.[/QUOTE]Is there a good site that lists girl friendly hotels?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2649163]Is there a good site that lists girl friendly hotels?[/QUOTE]I don't know if these are good sites. I just googled Veniene guest friendly hotels and came up with these. There's another one that Rockit posted, but the info is quite dated by at least 7 years. I suspect that if the same hotels are mentioned on each site, the info is "good". If in doubt, I would just email the hotel directly and directly ask if I can bring my Lao girlfriend to my room to stay all night. That approach has always resulted in getting the info I wanted.

[URL]https://theredlightguide.com/popular-guest-friendly-hotels-in-vientiane/[/URL]

[URL]https://issuu.com/vietnamfasttours/docs/guest_friendly_hotels_in_laos_-_top_5_guest_friend[/URL]

SS.

It was some time in 2016. I had arrived not long in Vientaine by myself. So decided to take a stroll by the river side. As I was approaching the area around the fountain I was trying to take not of the massage spas along there when out of the shadows this lady approached me. She said her name was Eth a 35 year old MILF and we had a few minutes of chit chat asking me where I was just a tourist or working in town. So she indicated that she gives massage and asked if would I like one. I said sure and she asked where I live. Since I was just new in town, I was not sure of exactly where that was. She suggested she follow me to show her where I was living. Said sure. So the plan was for me to take her and show her where I lived and then come back and drop her near the fountain. We proceeded together. Right as we were heading to my car I saw a fellow foreigner give me a knowing look / smile. What did I care. I was horny and lonely. For all you know he had already interacted with here or knew what time it was. During drive home she asked me if I already had a "darling" replied no and would she like to be my darling. Said she was divorced and taking care of mother and daughter.

Got to my place, invited her in and gave a drink of water. She whipped out a massage oil and asked if I wanted to get the massage. Of course! She suggested we take a shower together. Wow! Who am I to refuse. Took a shower together where she cleaned me really well with soap and dried me with a towel. Body was typical small breasts, petite but firm body. Then proceeded to the massage. Nothing to write home about but sensual enough with playful touches back and fort. I pulled her close and went to work. She was a bit reserved and shy so wouldn't do any other position but mish. Bummer. Was good none the less. Once done I dropped her back at the fountain and we exchanged numbers and I gave her 100,000 kip. She told me she would continue coming to visit until my wife came to join me. We saw each other about once a week over the course of a year. Kept her as my back anytime I was not able to score anyone else. Sometimes she came and left without any donation but I made sure to double it the next time I saw her.

After a long time of not hearing from her (I was traveling a lot then and then my family came), I got a call from her asking where I was. She was in front of my home. My family had just arrived and was at home then. Explained that family was back and that I would call her later. But she replied 'no don't call me again' and I never heard from her again. Didn't try contacting either since I was busy with family joining me.

I've walked past several low-end Lao brothel shacks mentioned before on this forum, mostly along Sithong road. Looks like facilities are terrible, but they're cheap and seem well stocked.

I read online that Lao law forbids sex between foreigners and Lao citizens (if not married), and that penalties are high. In addition, those brothels could potentially have other legal issues like trafficking, and obviously, prostitution itself.

Hypothetically, what is the risk for a foreigner of partaking in such places in terms of police? Some of those places have been around for 10+ years and aren't exactly hard to find (right on the main road). It's obvious that the cops know about it and decide to let it go on, and that it poses no risk for a local. However, a foreigner does stick out, and I wonder if it's risky for us.

Are there any relevant news or hearsay about foreigners being arrested for mongering in Laos in recent times? If one gets in trouble, would it be easy to bribe your way out, or is there a strong likelihood of jail, court and all? I was tempted, but didn't partake due to paranoia, I wonder if it was justified.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2735331]I've walked past several low-end Lao brothel shacks mentioned before on this forum, mostly along Sithong road. Looks like facilities are terrible, but they're cheap and seem well .[/QUOTE][URL]https://laotiantimes.com/2021/03/16/61-sex-workers-disciplined-in-vientiane-capital/[/URL]

Looks like the Police gave them a rev last year, so curious to know if your reported sightings are since that date?

Of course it could have been a publicity stunt by the police, a message to keep up the flow of tea money or many other reasons for a show of force.

I did partake there a few years back. It was hit and miss, mostly miss. Not many of the girls wanted to go with a foreigner and it seemed they were not pressured to do so.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2735426]Looks like the Police gave them a rev last year, so curious to know if your reported sightings are since that date?[/QUOTE]Yes, it was this year, after the opening, and the numbers were higher than before Covid.

Not the least bit surprised there was a police crackdown sometime in the middle, those places are ideal for transmitting and the whole world was in grip of Covid measures.

What interests me, specifically, is police risk for a customer, particularly an obvious foreigner. Seems really difficult to gauge.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2735771]Yes, it was this year, after the opening, and the numbers were higher than before Covid.

Not the least bit surprised there was a police crackdown sometime in the middle, those places are ideal for transmitting and the whole world was in grip of Covid measures.

What interests me, specifically, is police risk for a customer, particularly an obvious foreigner. Seems really difficult to gauge.[/QUOTE]Indeed. A few anecdotes aren't necessarily an accurate picture either. There was comment pages back where someone found themselves in the middle of a major police presence but wasn't stopped from riding away. A comment was that the police were more likely there to check for weapons. One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese". Another place (the only one where I partook as I met a fairly chatty willing provider) my drinking companion pointed to another customer sitting with a girl in a gloomy spot and said distastely "he american". So there are a few foreigners, maybe a lot of Chinese, around there. I think there's a warmer welcome in the country next door thou.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2735798]One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese".[/QUOTE]Maybe in the past, but given that China is closed, and not opening anytime soon, right now they would starve with that approach.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2735798]One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese". So there are a few foreigners, maybe a lot of Chinese, around there.[/QUOTE]Just to understand: China is closed to foreigners, but yet Chinese are allowed in to infest Laos? Would that be the situation?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2736501]Just to understand: China is closed to foreigners, but yet Chinese are allowed in to infest Laos? Would that be the situation?[/QUOTE]Not there in person to check, but according to the girls I'm chatting with online. Yes. Plenty Chinese.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2738523]Not there in person to check, but according to the girls I'm chatting with online. Yes. Plenty Chinese.[/QUOTE]Observation from the ground: not many Chinese at all compared to 2019. They can enter Laos easily, but going back to PRC is a massive hassle.

Vientiane is on my mind. I was there in 2010 and stayed at Salana. Rented a scooter and as I was riding around noticed many massage places along the side streets. Popped in and wow some stunners. Got hooked on a petite spinner with a nice face and hard body. She massaged me and cock until happy. I think I saw her four times and she liked my cock, so she said. So, on my last day in Vientiane, she came over to my hotel with her massage kit. As she was walking in front of me, noticed the condom in her back pocket. Haha I knew that was a non-fitter. Had my own. And of course I use a cockring, so it was rock hard on all encounters.

Struggled to get into her, but what a great gal with a lovely body and her pussy was beautiful! Enjoyed every pump. Eventually during position change ditched the rubber and hit it bareback. It was awesome! When I was ready, she was eager to taste no mess. And she got it!

Loved the trip. Off to Macua for some spa action in March, then a shot for a few days to see if I can repeat in Vientiane.

Hi Folks, been here 2 weeks primarily for work but this place is bone dry. Seems there are a lot of fish but am not casting in the correct pond. Your pointers are much requested and much awaited. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Are.

P.S. Staying at the CPlaza hotel.

I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.

Thanks for a great report. I've mongered only once in Lao and my experience was similar, although that was 20 years ago, seems not much has changed. Curious why some SEA countries develop such good p4 p ecosystems and others have very little despite similar poverty, education and religions. Lao vs Thailand is a good example, but also Indonesia vs Bangladesh.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2764379]I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.[/QUOTE]

Is the Vietnamese massage place still going near the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?

There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.

[QUOTE=Ray1111;2867322]There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.[/QUOTE]

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2872036]I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.[/QUOTE]Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.

[QUOTE=BonMonger;2874473]Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.[/QUOTE]It's definitely most popular for Asian guys. You see many guys in rented cars stopping by the various cat houses and checking lineups. It doesn't mean you aren't welcome if you aren't Asian. But yes, it's Asian guys (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) are definitely the top customers and the mamasans know that.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2872036]I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.[/QUOTE]I can also agree with you. However my last trip was pre covid. I will see who I can hookup with online and then make the trip. Vte is a quiet but fun city if you just give it a chance. There are nice restaurants, sites to enjoy, a small casino and kind lovely women!!

Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?

Hmmm. If I were writing a book on "How to catch an STD for dummies" I think this would get a chapter. Read back a few pages for reports of antibiotic resistant strains of diseases circulating, and mix that with intermittant condom usage by low cost local orientated working girls seeing a lot of traffic. Going BB in those places seems a sure bet to catch something.

[QUOTE=Pv118;2923252]Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pv118;2923252]Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a very good value. What were the conditions of these shacks and the women for that matter? How did you find this place? This is in Vientiane, Laos? How would you rate the overall experience there?

[QUOTE=InfoSeeker;2344603]There are two garden style places, compounds really, with karaoke room, restaurant and open air covered drinking huts. They are about 2-3 km down Sithong Road after the busy intersection with the Mitsubishi dealership. Both are on the right going towards the bus station but before the two massage places mentioned by Negima, I think.

You can drive right in and park so its very discrete and your Mia will never find you there.

Maybe 10 pusao in each place and both places are frequented by more by Chinese customers. These are no high end karaoke places, low prices for beer, food and everything else. But at least they have bucket showers in the rooms. Pusao 170,000 KIP, I think 20,000 goes for the room but maybe I pay a 20,000 KIP falang tax. The one I had ST was well worth it.

In both places the pusao (all Lao) ask for food to be bought, and they all seem to be starving haha. But food is not pricey so it's OK. They actually have an nice atmosphere, can sit outside and drink and eat, no blaring music in your ears. Also not on the side of the road with people peering in at you as they walk by.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pv118;2923252]Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?[/QUOTE]I wonder are these two places that infoseeker reported on in 2019 the same place as these "shacks" that Pv118 reported on in June? The prices seem to be similar especially since it's been 5 years. Also same place Sithong Rd. The 2019 report gives much more details about how to find the places.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2933998]I wonder are these two places that infoseeker reported on in 2019 the same place as these "shacks" that Pv118 reported on in June? The prices seem to be similar especially since it's been 5 years. Also same place Sithong Rd. The 2019 report gives much more details about how to find the places.[/QUOTE]The places mentioned in 2019 I saw in 2019. In that year sittong road had many, many places to offer. Maybea couple dozen. I saw in the news the govt had a clean up during covid era, and when I aent back in 2022 those places were goneburgers. All the big resturants closed up, and half of the smaller joints were gone. Most of the remaining ones had fabricated steel gates out to lock out LEOs or any undesirables. Within a couple months I heard most of the remaining places had closed up, theres only 1 or 2 left now. Big new developments, new hotels, new clubs opening up in that area, plus govt pressure.

Thanks for the news from 2022. Sounds like much has changed. Do you have any more recent information or rumours? It's a lovely country and would like to know more about the scene in the capital these days. Thanks.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2935049]The places mentioned in 2019 I saw in 2019. In that year sittong road had many, many places to offer. Maybea couple dozen. I saw in the news the govt had a clean up during covid era, and when I aent back in 2022 those places were goneburgers. All the big resturants closed up, and half of the smaller joints were gone. Most of the remaining ones had fabricated steel gates out to lock out LEOs or any undesirables. Within a couple months I heard most of the remaining places had closed up, theres only 1 or 2 left now. Big new developments, new hotels, new clubs opening up in that area, plus govt pressure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2936428]Thanks for the news from 2022. Sounds like much has changed. Do you have any more recent information or rumours? It's a lovely country and would like to know more about the scene in the capital these days. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I did report at the time, its further down the thread somewhere. I kept in touch with a couple of people I met in 2022 and it sounds as thou Laos is gradually slipping into the clutches of the Chinese. Lots of Lao girls either in Thailand now, or have learnt to speak Mandarin.

Does anyone know if Bor Pen Nyang on Quai Fa Ngum is still open? Picked up a lovely freelancer there in 2015. I'm thinking about going back to Vientiane for a week or so in December, but the latest reviews are not very encouraging.

I'm currently in Thailand and I have banged alot of girls from the Isan region and even two that claimed they were from Laos. I've been asking alot of them about Laos. Vientiane is not even pronounced the way it is written, they are pronouncing it like this: Vien-Jahn.

I'm thinking of going as far as Udon Thani but not all the way into Laos as I don't want any problems with the oppressive government there. However, it seems there may be alot of Lao women in Udon Thani. You literally take the same train to get there from Bangkok and it's just like 20 km away from the Thailand / Laos border.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2939790]Does anyone know if Bor Pen Nyang on Quai Fa Ngum is still open? Picked up a lovely freelancer there in 2015. I'm thinking about going back to Vientiane for a week or so in December, but the latest reviews are not very encouraging.[/QUOTE]I have not been back to Vientiane since COVID (2020) but I will be there again within the next month or two.

I understand that Bor Pen Nyang is now closed. It was getting very tired last time I was there so not much of a surprise.

Kop Chai Deu is still going though (near Nam Phou fountain).
As has been said - be wary nowadays of scams involving women. I have been reliably informed that LE is on the lookout for sleazy foreigners preying on Lao ladies so don't be a reckless monger.

Anyone on site that can give info on the current action available?

Last visit over 4 months ago, there was nothing worth spending my baht on. Even the motortaxi (tuk tuk) guys sucked, hotel brothels (aka nightclubs) were lacking in talent.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2951291]Anyone on site that can give info on the current action available?

Last visit over 4 months ago, there was nothing worth spending my baht on. Even the motortaxi (tuk tuk) guys sucked, hotel brothels (aka nightclubs) were lacking in talent.[/QUOTE]Lao Plaza massage / sauna place still in operation??

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2951297]Lao Plaza massage / sauna place still in operation??[/QUOTE]Returned yesterday, after a short visit to Vientiane.

Vientiane Massage Lao is still in operation, open from 12 pm to 12 am. Paid 2400 Baht (72.00 USD) for a 60 minute massage with extras at the office counter (last time paid around 15.00 USD at counter for the sauna / massage, then paid the lady 50.00 USD in the room for extras. That was 3-4 years ago).

They only had 8 Viet ladies on show, all in their mid to high twenties (maybe early thirties). Selection was just ok, only 2 looked worth the pricing. Both were mid-twenties (was with a friend, so he picked 1 and I got the other). Oh, their outfits make them seem WAY skinner and hides tummy fat.

Pay at Counter.

Room was really rundown, small jaccuzi tub, sauna room (moldy and steam was working half-ass) and massage table.

15 minutes alone in the sauna.

Quick bath.

Short Massage, if you can call it that.

BBBJ, some tit action and dick teasing.

Condom, basic cowgirl and missionary. And done.

Another Quick Bath, 500 Baht tip and out the door.

Would I repeat on next visit to Laos, YES only because action in Vientiane is very limited.

Loc Phat Massage is a large modern building on Rue Nokeokoummane in central Vientiane. Open 24 hours, it is a KTV knocking shop. I went during the day time and there were only 2 girls but one was a very slim stunner so I paid 1,500,000 Kip to the receptionist and went upstairs to a large room with a king size bed and a large bath tub. Kim Ho was an 18 year old Vietnamese girl and spoke a few words of English which helped. Right from the outset she was hesitant and I later found out that this was only her 2nd day in the industry and I was only her 2nd client. This made the 1,500,000 Kip seem like great value.

The assisted bath was basic and then we moved to the bed. I laid there in all my glory sporting a boner to be truly proud of and she didn't know what to do! So I took over and taught her her job. The BBBJ was amateurish unsurprisingly. DATY was wonderful and she came big time. Sex in multiple positions was covered. And no money was going to change this. The DFK was enthusiastic.

Overall, despite being covered, this was one of the best punts of my life. My stay in Vientiane was short and so I was unable to return.

Most MPs in the capital had staff wearing smart uniforms and this is always a no no for me. Smile Massage in the centre had girls sat outside in casual clothing, so seems the obvious choice. With plenty of petits teens to choose from, it was not difficult to find a great looker. We went upstairs into a large room with mattresses on the floor and diving curtains. It was during the day and I was the only customer.

Being naked when they walk in always gives them permission to take the massage a bit further and this beauty did not hesitate. No silly back massage, straight on to my thigh, brushing my cock. She took off her top to reveal the tiny tits that I really love in petite asian teens. She gave a reasonable BBBJ. Sex was not possible due to her period. Or that's what she said.

Gave her 400,000 Kip tip (£15).

Yet another amazing experience in Laos.

Popped across the border to give Vientiane a look see. 400,000 kip (20 US) does seem to be the going tip rate for a handy / blowie in the massage shops. Good enough to get a "come back tomorrow and I make baby for you," or maybe I'm just that much of a prize (LOL no). Available all around town and good for what it is, but if you're on a monger mission type vacation I'd skip Laos altogether and just go to Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Chop;2971595]Popped across the border to give Vientiane a look see. 400,000 kip (20 US) does seem to be the going tip rate for a handy / blowie in the massage shops. Good enough to get a "come back tomorrow and I make baby for you," or maybe I'm just that much of a prize (LOL no). Available all around town and good for what it is, but if you're on a monger mission type vacation I'd skip Laos altogether and just go to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt that sex is not offered so easily in Laos. But, if you like to BB pretty slim teens, then Laos offers up some real prizes at bargain prices. Yes, you have to look for it, but it's there.

[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971664]pretty slim teens[/QUOTE]For context: I live in Isaan. First time in Laos my initial impression was, "Oh, so this is where all the slim petite girls have been hiding. " Which is to say I think you're right. The girls are prettier, but the industry just isn't built out like it is in Thailand so it takes more work.

[QUOTE=Chop;2971816]For context: I live in Isaan. First time in Laos my initial impression was, "Oh, so this is where all the slim petite girls have been hiding. " Which is to say I think you're right. The girls are prettier, but the industry just isn't built out like it is in Thailand so it takes more work.[/QUOTE]It helps if you like the "work" - scootering around, seeing the underbelly of a town, meeting strangers, the thrill of the chase, sometimes having sex with girls who didn't imagine that that would happen today, making them come.

[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971664]There is no doubt that sex is not offered so easily in Laos. But, if you like to BB pretty slim teens, then Laos offers up some real prizes at bargain prices. Yes, you have to look for it, but it's there.[/QUOTE]I am a long time hobbyist. Check my profile for my numerous FRs.

What do you mean by "BB"? Bareback?

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2973157]I am a long time hobbyist. Check my profile for my numerous FRs.

What do you mean by "BB"? Bareback?[/QUOTE]Yes. Bareback.

I will be heading to Vientiane and giving my shot at Laos in a few days, wish me luck LOL. My old stomping grounds were Angeles City about 15 years ago, I just came from western China where the mongering scene is nearly none existent. The govt really cleaned everything up.

[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971664]There is no doubt that sex is not offered so easily in Laos. But, if you like to BB pretty slim teens, then Laos offers up some real prizes at bargain prices. Yes, you have to look for it, but it's there.[/QUOTE]I am heading to Laos soon, any recommendations on where to stay? You seem knowledgeable.

[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971122]Loc Phat Massage is a large modern building on Rue Nokeokoummane in central Vientiane. Open 24 hours, it is a KTV knocking shop. I went during the day time and there were only 2 girls but one was a very slim stunner so I paid 1,500,000 Kip to the receptionist and went upstairs to a large room with a king size bed and a large bath tub. Kim Ho was an 18 year old Vietnamese girl and spoke a few words of English which helped. Right from the outset she was hesitant and I later found out that this was only her 2nd day in the industry and I was only her 2nd client. This made the 1,500,000 Kip seem like great value.

The assisted bath was basic and then we moved to the bed. I laid there in all my glory sporting a boner to be truly proud of and she didn't know what to do! So I took over and taught her her job. The BBBJ was amateurish unsurprisingly. DATY was wonderful and she came big time. Sex in multiple positions was covered. And no money was going to change this. The DFK was enthusiastic.

Overall, despite being covered, this was one of the best punts of my life. My stay in Vientiane was short and so I was unable to return.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience, 26 - 30 year old attractive Vietnamese woman with big breasts, sweet attitude, covered only, no kissing. Cost was 1. 5 million or about $70 paid at front desk. Time was 9 pm, 3 girls available, all decent.

I am back in Vientiane again for a working visit after having had many visits pre-COVID during the previous decade.

There are quite a few new, chic restaurants and hotels, but there are also a depressing number of derelict buildings, and many places are now closed.

The plane to Vientiane was full, and there are lots of grey nomad tourists and the inevitable backpackers around, but the monger scene has clearly suffered from some unknown (to me anyway) effects. The trawling girls on motorbikes have disappeared in the evening. Even WeChat seems to have few potential meet-ups.

I haven't gone searching for a massage yet, but I am here for an extended stay, so time will tell.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2981520]I am back in Vientiane again for a working visit after having had many visits pre-COVID during the previous decade.

There are quite a few new, chic restaurants and hotels, but there are also a depressing number of derelict buildings, and many places are now closed.

The plane to Vientiane was full, and there are lots of grey nomad tourists and the inevitable backpackers around, but the monger scene has clearly suffered from some unknown (to me anyway) effects. The trawling girls on motorbikes have disappeared in the evening. Even WeChat seems to have few potential meet-ups.

I haven't gone searching for a massage yet, but I am here for an extended stay, so time will tell.[/QUOTE]I am getting a crazy amount of matches on badoo, some on tinder. It just takes time. Everything takes time. And time is money.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2981532]I am getting a crazy amount of matches on badoo, some on tinder. It just takes time. Everything takes time. And time is money.[/QUOTE]Good to know that the scene is alive and well but has moved "undercover" Plat.

I am working here for a few weeks, so meetups are not a priority for me, but your advice is helpful to others who might be flailing around with little result.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2981532]I am getting a crazy amount of matches on badoo, some on tinder. It just takes time. Everything takes time. And time is money.[/QUOTE]Greetings. I am a long-time hobbyist and have written many reports. I have used Badoo recently. I did not buy credits because I can't tell how active are the profiles. I don't want to waste money and time by messaging a girl that may have been inactive for awhile.

If I purchase credits will I then be able to see a girl's "active status. ".

FWIW, Tinder worked great for me in Jakarta. Girls initiated contact!

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2981581]Good to know that the scene is alive and well but has moved "undercover" Plat.

I am working here for a few weeks, so meetups are not a priority for me, but your advice is helpful to others who might be flailing around with little result.[/QUOTE]Don't expect treat them like a girlfriend, my experience is that once you move over to whatsapp, many of the girls really seem to be in the mongering business, a few of the girls say long term but in reality everyone is just waiting for an offer. Unfortunately I had some bad dates from badoo.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2981520]I am back in Vientiane again for a working visit after having had many visits pre-COVID during the previous decade.

There are quite a few new, chic restaurants and hotels, but there are also a depressing number of derelict buildings, and many places are now closed.

The plane to Vientiane was full, and there are lots of grey nomad tourists and the inevitable backpackers around, but the monger scene has clearly suffered from some unknown (to me anyway) effects. The trawling girls on motorbikes have disappeared in the evening. Even WeChat seems to have few potential meet-ups.

I haven't gone searching for a massage yet, but I am here for an extended stay, so time will tell.[/QUOTE]I am here for another 4 days before VV, if you want to meet up let me know to trade information.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2981581]Good to know that the scene is alive and well but has moved "undercover" Plat.

I am working here for a few weeks, so meetups are not a priority for me, but your advice is helpful to others who might be flailing around with little result.[/QUOTE]Here are my results so far. Feb 2025.

1. Some matches with girls on Tinder and Badoo. Had one bad date (girl wanted to use me for immediate coffee, then eating at food court, then movie, then sit and chat. I cut it off by saying next time for movie because I actually wanted coffee and eat at food court myself at Vientiane Center Lao mall area. Took a taxi back to my Airbnb area and she was cold in the taxi, when we arrived we chatted briefly and she did not want to discuss further and left. She mentioned she traveled to Pattaya and Phuket in the past, probably hardened bar girl who just wanted to milk me, no interest in me at all.

One good date. Tinder - girl wanted long term relationship, went on a date walked along Vientiane night market area first night. Second night went to her friend's wedding and a night out of drinking. She invited herself to my room with no prompting, sat on my bed and promptly took out a maxi pad and said no sex only looking for a serious relationship. As it was 2 am and a night of drinking did not argue and walked her to her car, mixed signals. Results pending.

2. Went to a few massage parlors, zero sex available, some use the term "VIP service", which can get confusing. It is better to be direct and ask if (boom boom and sex) is available with the girls.

3. Went to a KTV on one of the main roads, they even called a girl to come visit me, the price was $350,000 for the room for one hour Karaoke and $350,000 for the girl. When I reconfirmed if boom boom / sex was available with the girl, she declined. I got out without paying anything.

4. Massage LOC PHAT. On Rue Nokeo koummane -.

Sex available, cost was $75, or 1,500,000 kip, covered, one pop, the girl did agree to give a massage for the remaining time. 3 girls available.

5. Massage Vientiane, Rue Nongdouang, - 8-10 girls available.

A massage parlor within an innocent massage parlor, have to tell front desk you are looking for boom-boom.

Sex available, mostly a chinese place, use translator, I am semi-fluent in Mandarin, cost is $44 usd for one pop or 40 minutes whichever comes first, 2 pops appears to be $150. Yes it is USD. I paid 1,000,000 Kip which is $44, or they charge 300 yuan on alipay which is $41. Hours are 1 pm? - 3 am. Disappointing is one pop. Many of these girls do not smile, I picked a girl one pop, tried to make some small talk to make her feel comfortable, did not much affect results, she did not want to stay after or do any massages saying it is not on the menu, left after 25 minutes and a shower.

6. Massage Tai YuanGe Men's Massage, off of RTE Luang Prabang, near SoupHaxay Computer.

Sex supposedly available, closed on Mondays. Took a picture of the outside signs.

Analysis. Scene has gone underground. You have to look for MPs within MPs. There is no way an innocent backpacker is going to stumble upon extra services unless he specifically asks or negotiates it. Badoo and Tinder girls will take a lot of work. Will have to work on pickup game, picking up girls numbers in daytime and get them to come out at night, and still have to pay something. Nightclubs will probably yield better results but need to stay up late.

Photo A. The room I used in Mens Massage off Rue Nongduang.

Photo be. Price list in English at Men's Massage.

Photo see. Tai YuanGe Men's Massage.

Thanks for reading!

1. Yoon Massage and Spa, on Rue Samsenthai, asked, no boom boom or sex available. Legit.

2. Phokham Massage and Spa, off of Chao Anou Road. My favorite normal massage for 90,000 kip for legit massage. There are private rooms separated by a curtain with the mat on the ground, possibly extras if negotiated correctly and depending on the person. I have not tried it yet but will most likely give it a shot and offer. Nothing to lose.

So far only found those 3 massage places that offer sex. There may be more places around the city that have a MP within a MP if you ask for boom-boom sex.

I matched with an account on badoo, switched over to LINE App, and right out of the gate I offered 800,000 for her time. Appears to be a handler, messaged me 800,000 short time and 1,500,000 long time. 3 girls to choose from, the one I picked was not available so he sent my second choice. She was chubbier than her photo but still attractive, in and out in 30 minutes.

This is the business card information for the "men / s massage" in vientiane. Saving for posterity.

Best selection, maybe 8-10 girls, all mostly speak Lao or Chinese use google translate. Prices 45-50 $ usd, can use loca-pay or alibaba.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2982791]This is the business card information for the "men / s massage" in vientiane. Saving for posterity.

Best selection, maybe 8-10 girls, all mostly speak Lao or Chinese use google translate. Prices 45-50 $ usd, can use loca-pay or alibaba.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to post all this great info. I've been to Vientiane several times but never looked for P4 P fun there. Next time I go I'll look into some of the places you mentioned.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2981840]Here are my results so far. Feb 2025.

1. Some matches with girls on Tinder and Badoo. Had one bad date (girl wanted to use me for immediate coffee, then eating at food court, then movie, then sit and chat. I cut it off by saying next time for movie because I actually wanted coffee and eat at food court myself at Vientiane Center Lao mall area. Took a taxi back to my Airbnb area and she was cold in the taxi, when we arrived we chatted briefly and she did not want to discuss further and left. She mentioned she traveled to Pattaya and Phuket in the past, probably hardened bar girl who just wanted to milk me, no interest in me at all.

One good date. Tinder - girl wanted long term relationship, went on a date walked along Vientiane night market area first night. Second night went to her friend's wedding and a night out of drinking. She invited herself to my room with no prompting, sat on my bed and promptly took out a maxi pad and said no sex only looking for a serious relationship. As it was 2 am and a night of drinking did not argue and walked her to her car, mixed signals. Results pending.

2. Went to a few massage parlors, zero sex available, some use the term "VIP service", which can get confusing. It is better to be direct and ask if (boom boom and sex) is available with the girls.

3. Went to a KTV on one of the main roads, they even called a girl to come visit me, the price was $350,000 for the room for one hour Karaoke and $350,000 for the girl. When I reconfirmed if boom boom / sex was available with the girl, she declined. I got out without paying anything.

4. Massage LOC PHAT. On Rue Nokeo koummane -.

Sex available, cost was $75, or 1,500,000 kip, covered, one pop, the girl did agree to give a massage for the remaining time. 3 girls available..[/QUOTE]#5. Massage is called Men's Massage. In google it shows up with Japanese characters.

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- Can also search in google maps for "erotic massage" or "massage erotic" , you get the results.

Hey Platypusahh & RedKilt, coming to VTE for work. We can meet up and chill, Beer on Me.

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2985329]Hey Platypusahh & RedKilt, coming to VTE for work. We can meet up and chill, Beer on Me.[/QUOTE]Bad luck mate. I am leaving today.

I found a good massage place on Chao Anou but by accident.

My lower back and buttocks needed some work, so I randomly picked a place for a one-hour lumbar massage.

First of all, a ladyboy washed my feet downstairs, but when I saw that he / she was going to do the massage I said No. I prefer a real 100% woman.

The ladyboy was not happy but hey. My money my choice.

A cute little lady set off up the stairs and when I saw we were going up to Level 3 my hopes were raised as it was very quiet and nobody was up there.

After I put on the obligatory shorts she gave me a sensational massage hitting all the right spots. Then she flipped me over and asked if I wanted my stomach massaged which, I have learned, is a signal for the upsell. She said 600 k for BJ and I said no. Too much.

She immediately said 500 k and I said I will give you 400 k (and she agreed). She wanted the money in her hand before proceeding so that was OK with me.

Off came the shorts and she went to town (very nicely too).

She must have liked my size because she said "Wow, very big. I want to boom boom" and she jumped on and rode me to the end.

I think this was a stroke of luck encounter although I was well-dressed in my office clothes so maybe she decided I was Mr Lucky today.

I headed off down the 3 flights of stairs. I read Plat's posts and he seemed to work hard to find a happy ending so, as I said, I was lucky today I guess.

I won't put the name on this open site as I know LE checks it. I will share the address with paid-up members.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2983136]#5. Massage is called Men's Massage. In google it shows up with Japanese characters.

- Can also search in google maps for "erotic massage" or "massage erotic" , you get the results.[/QUOTE]When I am searching Erotic massage or Massage Erotic it takes me to Thailand. Can you share that one Japanese character?

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2985765]When I am searching Erotic massage or Massage Erotic it takes me to Thailand. Can you share that one Japanese character?[/QUOTE]In Vientiane, this is what you search for on google maps -.

The first massage parlor is called.

1. Tai YuanGe Men's Massage.

2. Run by the same people, was called Men's Massage on google maps. It is near Mr. Oven Barber shop. Now it seems to be called Z hotel and massage spa.

In Japanese you can search for "Massage Service" in Katakana "MASAAJI SABASE" you can try to use google translate for the Japanese katakana.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2985329]Hey Platypusahh & RedKilt, coming to VTE for work. We can meet up and chill, Beer on Me.[/QUOTE]Right now I plan on being in LP for a bit, sure I would be up for meeting if I return and chill in VTE for a while. Depends on how the vibes are in LP.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2985885]Right now I plan on being in LP for a bit, sure I would be up for meeting if I return and chill in VTE for a while. Depends on how the vibes are in LP.[/QUOTE]Will be visiting Vientiane first from Mid-Mach to Luang Prabang and then to Vang Vieng and back to Vientiane. So let me know schedule, I am sure we can catch up in any of the Cities.

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2986134]Will be visiting Vientiane first from Mid-Mach to Luang Prabang and then to Vang Vieng and back to Vientiane. So let me know schedule, I am sure we can catch up in any of the Cities.[/QUOTE]A piece of my luggage broke and I am getting it shipped to my hotel here in LP, will be in LP until I receive it, probably until mid March.

I did a similar route in visiting VTE, VV, and LP! Let me know if you have any questions.

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2986134]Will be visiting Vientiane first from Mid-Mach to Luang Prabang and then to Vang Vieng and back to Vientiane. So let me know schedule, I am sure we can catch up in any of the Cities.[/QUOTE]I am in LP now until March 19.

Haha, the funniest thing I've read this year.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2981840]Here are my results so far. Feb 2025.

1. Some matches with girls on Tinder and Badoo. Had one bad date (girl wanted to use me for immediate coffee, then eating at food court, then movie, then sit and chat. I cut it off by saying next time for movie because I actually wanted coffee and eat at food court myself at Vientiane Center Lao mall area. Took a taxi back to my Airbnb area and she was cold in the taxi, when we arrived we chatted briefly and she did not want to discuss further and left. She mentioned she traveled to Pattaya and Phuket in the past, probably hardened bar girl who just wanted to milk me, no interest in me at all.

One good date. Tinder - girl wanted long term relationship, went on a date walked along Vientiane night market area first night. Second night went to her friend's wedding and a night out of drinking. She invited herself to my room with no prompting, sat on my bed and promptly took out a maxi pad and said no sex only looking for a serious relationship. As it was 2 am and a night of drinking did not argue and walked her to her car, mixed signals. Results pending..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2990375]Hey Brother can meet up just let me the location and time. I don't have Sub though so how do we communicate.[/QUOTE]I have just extended one more week in Luang Prabang. The package I was waiting for just arrived into Laos and I have to wait until it delivers to my hotel here, in retrospect probably should have sent it to Vientiane knowing the probable delay.

My current plan is to arrive at Vientiane March 26.

It will be a challenge to meet up as we both need to be checking this blog, I guess just check back March 26 and we can find a restaurant or bar to meet up when I am in VTE. You are staying in Vientiane Long term?

[QUOTE=Sinclair3;2989768]Haha, the funniest thing I've read this year.[/QUOTE]And who said the Chinese do not have a sense of humor? LOL.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2990659]I have just extended one more week in Luang Prabang. The package I was waiting for just arrived into Laos and I have to wait until it delivers to my hotel here, in retrospect probably should have sent it to Vientiane knowing the probable delay.

My current plan is to arrive at Vientiane March 26.

It will be a challenge to meet up as we both need to be checking this blog, I guess just check back March 26 and we can find a restaurant or bar to meet up when I am in VTE. You are staying in Vientiane Long term?[/QUOTE]We can meet in Luang Prabang because I am in Luang Prabang.

[QUOTE=FuriousDraken;2990899]We can meet in Luang Prabang because I am in Luang Prabang.[/QUOTE]My Apologies, I left for Plain of Jars and Phonsavan. I recently returned and tomorrow I leave for Vientiane for one week. If you check, we can meet tomorrow morning before my train, my Laos number [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

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[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2994170]My Apologies, I left for Plain of Jars and Phonsavan. I recently returned and tomorrow I leave for Vientiane for one week..[/QUOTE]Hi Platypusahh, thanks for all your detailed report and I'm flying into Vientiane on 4/6 for a few days. It's my first time visiting Laos. If you're free, would you like to meet up? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Raycx5;2994405]Hi Platypusahh, thanks for all your detailed report and I'm flying into Vientiane on 4/6 for a few days. It's my first time visiting Laos. If you're free, would you like to meet up? Thanks![/QUOTE]I always end up checking this website late. Its difficult to schedule meetups without phone numbers or private messaging. My train is in 24 hours to Hanoi. I recommend seeing some of my previous posts about where to find action in Vientiane.

Where are you staying near?

[QUOTE=Raycx5;2994405]Hi Platypusahh, thanks for all your detailed report and I'm flying into Vientiane on 4/6 for a few days. It's my first time visiting Laos. If you're free, would you like to meet up? Thanks![/QUOTE]If you private message me, I have a number of a contact who sends me girls for 700,000. Quality is above average, attitude is hit or miss, typical Lao girls problem. At least its a home service in the comfort of my apartment. He charges 800,000 kip but I convinced to let me get lower rates. In LP and VV I was able to get 600,000 kip but again, attitude problems.

Hi Platy,

When your post was posted, I just arrived at VV and I just posted by worst experience on another post. Other Areas. Apprecaite your response. I did try Loc Phat. Chose a very cute Vietnamese that looks like a Japanese. Very basic BBBJ that lasted like 20 seconds LOL. Good attitude and great smiles. I'm not able to PM as I'm a free member, but appreciate the offer. Hit or miss. Looks like Laos girls have no concept of service, probably because they grew up in a communist country. I'm heading to LP next and read all your posts and Steve's. What's the name of the massage place that's the gold mine you guys found near the south by SK veterinary clinic and Pistoche swimming pool? I googled massage and couldn't find any between them.

I'm flying to BKK after and really looking forward to better service, albeit pricier, huge variety of entertainment options! Then to Phuket.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Raycx5;2995838]Hi Platy,

When your post was posted, I just arrived at VV and I just posted by worst experience on another post. Other Areas. Apprecaite your response. I did try Loc Phat. Chose a very cute Vietnamese that looks like a Japanese. Very basic BBBJ that lasted like 20 seconds LOL. Good attitude and great smiles. I'm not able to PM as I'm a free member, but appreciate the offer. Hit or miss. Looks like Laos girls have no concept of service, probably because they grew up in a communist country. I'm heading to LP next and read all your posts and Steve's. What's the name of the massage place that's the gold mine you guys found near the south by SK veterinary clinic and Pistoche swimming pool? I googled massage and couldn't find any between them.

I'm flying to BKK after and really looking forward to better service, albeit pricier, huge variety of entertainment options! Then to Phuket.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The gold mine spa place is south of Pongkham Residence. Unfortunately the location is not tagged on google maps. It is part of a complex wedged into between a small grocery store and a restaurant. You cannot miss it because it is both a legit massage place and a erotic massage (the erotic one is on the left, and only opens in the evenings around 7 pm).

I know it sounds ridiculous but many places have no address, you just have to look on foot.

If you go south of Phu Vao road, and pass by Pongkham Residence and Halo Garden BBQ, you should be able to see some Beauty shops on the left. Go one or two more blocks and you should see the massage parlors on the right. If you hit the intersection with pistoche swimming pool you have gone too far.

Sorry I can give better directions but its really terrible their shipping and address situations, either their roads are not named or people just know where everything is.

Believe me I had my share of terrible Lao mongering experiences, even had a few normal girls they were a bit crazy in the head.

I have been in Vietnam and Cuba, also communist countries, the girls were not terrible there. Cuba had some decent service quality. Lao girls are just bad, they can claim that prize alone.

Good bye Vientiane. Still the best place for mongering (compared to VV and LP) in my opinion. There are not many options and one has to be very persistent, but the experience would be the best compared to LP and VV. For those interested in only mongering, look elsewhere. For those that like unassuming backpacking and culture and good food, Laos is pretty good.

I came from Chengdu China were mongering has been eliminated completely, so it was a welcome change for me, but if I had come from anywhere else, it would be a downgrade. I would return because I have contacts now, and I know what to do, and prices are affordable, but don't go solely for mongering unless you have something setup online beforehand.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2995539]If you private message me, I have a number of a contact who sends me girls for 700,000. Quality is above average, attitude is hit or miss, typical Lao girls problem. At least its a home service in the comfort of my apartment. He charges 800,000 kip but I convinced to let me get lower rates. In LP and VV I was able to get 600,000 kip but again, attitude problems.[/QUOTE]Hi. Would you share your guy's contact? I tried to pm you but cannot send message to you.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2981840]Here are my results so far. Feb 2025.

1. Some matches with girls on Tinder and Badoo. Had one bad date (girl wanted to use me for immediate coffee, then eating at food court, then movie, then sit and chat. I cut it off by saying next time for movie because I actually wanted coffee and eat at food court myself at Vientiane Center Lao mall area. Took a taxi back to my Airbnb area and she was cold in the taxi, when we arrived we chatted briefly and she did not want to discuss further and left. She mentioned she traveled to Pattaya and Phuket in the past, probably hardened bar girl who just wanted to milk me, no interest in me at all. [/QUOTE]One good date. Tinder. Girl wanted long term relationship, went on a date walked along Vientiane night market area first night. Second night went to her friend's wedding and a night out of drinking. She invited herself to my room with no prompting, sat on my bed and promptly took out a maxi pad and said no sex only looking for a serious relationship. As it was 2 am and a night of drinking did not argue and walked her to her car, mixed signals. Results pending.

Hi Platypusahh, was your airbnb girl-friendly? No problems to bring girls in airbnb in Vientiane? Thanks.

[QUOTE=RiriAl;3020227]One good date. Tinder. Girl wanted long term relationship, went on a date walked along Vientiane night market area first night. Second night went to her friend's wedding and a night out of drinking. She invited herself to my room with no prompting, sat on my bed and promptly took out a maxi pad and said no sex only looking for a serious relationship. As it was 2 am and a night of drinking did not argue and walked her to her car, mixed signals. Results pending.[/QUOTE]Hi Platypusahh, was your airbnb girl-friendly? No problems to bring girls in airbnb in Vientiane? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Platypusahh;2995539]If you private message me, I have a number of a contact who sends me girls for 700,000. Quality is above average, attitude is hit or miss, typical Lao girls problem. At least its a home service in the comfort of my apartment. He charges 800,000 kip but I convinced to let me get lower rates. In LP and VV I was able to get 600,000 kip but again, attitude problems.[/QUOTE]Can you PM me with your contact? I'll be in Vientiane next month.

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Got to take a v-card on my last trip. Met a girl through a mutual friend. Spent $300 USD taking her shopping and sealed the deal for 2 nights. Blood soaked beddings on both occasions.

It pays to get to know people on an interpersonal level; they're very lax about sex life if they're comfortable with you.

I live in Manila and I have spent lengthy time working and wandering in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and I can categorically say that after my recent 12-day visit to Laos, it sits firmly at the bottom as a venue for those of us who read ISG.

I have noticed that it has steadily deteriorated since around the time Bor Pen Yang closed, and LE's attempts to "clean up" the naughtiness in Vientiane have been effective.

There are still a couple of lively places that will appeal to those with game and a patient outlook.

Wind West gets going around 10 pm with a steady stream of locals, including groups of women - live music too, but pretty average bands. Cat Moon Bar, past the Patuxay Monument and towards the Tat Luang Temple, is another lively spot with opportunities for success.

I was on a work assignment, so I just looked and never touched, because I could not bring anyone to my 5-star hotel, so I cannot provide any updates on prices, etc.

Anyone with further on-the=ground knowledge please provide supplementary comments.

Just ended a Vientiane trip.

Not many choices on dating apps for P4P (around 5 in a week) quoting 2 M kip on average. So frustrating to talk to Laos girls on dating app.

For the easiest outcall, just go to Xang Jieng market aka Chinatown and along the main street outside, men will be distributing name cards with WeChat / Whatsapp qr codes.

These outcalls start at around 300 rmb for ST and 500 rmb for LT with an extra transport fee if you stay away from Chinatown.

There is one hotel (Athens hotel) offering spa with FS for 850 rmb.

Recommend to use WeChat as the app has translation in built, as well as transcribing voice chat to text, but as most of the staff use voice chat rather than text, it's might still be a challenge.

Photos are not too edited, still some resemblance unlike the ones on dating apps.

One thing to note, some staff will ask you to negotiate with the girl directly for services such as BJ / kissing, and only sex is guaranteed. Others will state it as included. Clarify beforehand.

Didn't see any freelancers around nam phou park the few times I walked through there.

Massage loc phat seemed closed the one sturdy night I walked past, with a towel hung on the door.

As reported by many people, the service attitudes of LOS girls are atrocious, either lying motionless on the bed or trying to get away early.

But outside of the bedroom their service attitudes is amazing, go figure.