Cebu

Thread Starter.

Good to have a thread for Cebu, the second largest metropolitan area in the Philippines, after Metro Manila, and the second largest city in the Philippines by population. Also the self proclaimed online mongering capital of the PH.
The bars employing the kind of personnel that we're interested into are located left and right of the Jolly Bee in the corner of General Maxilom Avenue / Dionisio Jakosalem St.
The bars mostly frequented by FLs are in Mango Square, where unfortunately also most LBs hang around.
Ayala Mall is the mall where hookups are expected to happen, if you're lucky.
The Hotel I've been using is ABC (not luxury like the AC one) the reception is on the 3rd floor, the rooms on other floors, only grease the security on ground floor by the elevator entrance. the Desert Factory restaurant by the entrance is where you can screen the on line purchases, and the dorm for the future female doctors and nurses is across the street, if you like to go that route.
Here is a pic of a young doctor preparing to do a close examination of my dick.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3033173]Good to have a thread for Cebu, the second largest metropolitan area in the Philippines, after Metro Manila, and the second largest city in the Philippines by population. Also the self proclaimed online mongering capital of the PH.
The bars employing the kind of personnel that we're interested into are located left and right of the Jolly Bee in the corner of General Maxilom Avenue / Dionisio Jakosalem St.
The bars mostly frequented by FLs are in Mango Square, where unfortunately also most LBs hang around.
Ayala Mall is the mall where hookups are expected to happen, if you're lucky.
The Hotel I've been using is ABC (not luxury like the AC one) the reception is on the 3rd floor, the rooms on other floors, only grease the security on ground floor by the elevator entrance. the Desert Factory restaurant by the entrance is where you can screen the on line purchases, and the dorm for the future female doctors and nurses is across the street, if you like to go that route.
Here is a pic of a young doctor preparing to do a close examination of my dick.[/QUOTE]You met the future doctor with street game or online?

Only time I've been to Cebu, I went to Viking Club and had a great time taking out 2 girls for all night. This was in 2022 and I don't remember what I paid. Only problem is they wouldn't do BJ without condom. Next time, I'll be sure to clarify that I need that. I plan to return soon but not sure exactly when.

The Gods have heard our plea.

In honor of, one from the archives.

[QUOTE=Admin;3033146]Thread Starter.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much Admin.

There's been a number of us looking for this for ages.

As our friend Ugly said, Good to have a thread for Cebu, the second largest metropolitan area in the Philippines, after Metro Manila, and the second largest city in the Philippines by population. Also the self proclaimed online mongering capital of the PH.

_ Phil.

Thankfully my message to our Admin seems to have worked. Thank you!

For such a long time now, Cebu has been buried at the bottom of the forum in a user blog post, moderated by someone who hasn't been involved for quite some time. Years.

The only access, to share and discover info about Cebu prior, has been via the 'other areas' thread or that 'blog'.

This now makes it easier to share the benefits of choosing Cebu as an alternative destination, compared to your typical spots like Burgos and Angeles. Or somewhere else to add to your trip.

My experiences of Cebu have always been positive, affordable and you'll be surprised with the amount of girls who'll hit you up on Pina.

My future flights will most likely touch down at Mactan as opposed to Manila, so I hope to share some interesting experiences.

_ Phil.

There was a CEBU. Thread on this board, but hidden somewhere and not easy to find. Now it is there where it belongs to.

Cebu was never a bar-city as Angeles or Manila Burgos. Few bars and they charging ridiculous rates for leftovers. There are some hip discos. If you are below 30 and Asian going there in a group: its the place to go.

Online capital since the beginning of internet dating. But with the wrong assumption that Cebu is only a city: it is an island and girls addressing themselves as being in Cebu but living perhaps 100 km away in a little village on the island of Cebu. It takes some care to sort out your online dates without getting frustrated of the no-shows.

Cebu beach is artificial at some 5 star hotels. Forget it. For Diving go to Moalboal of further to Bohol or Dumaguete.

Fond memories over the years being there frequently.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3033265]There was a CEBU. Thread on this board, but hidden somewhere and not easy to find. Now it is there where it belongs to.

Cebu was never a bar-city as Angeles or Manila Burgos. Few bars and they charging ridiculous rates for leftovers. There are some hip discos. If you are below 30 and Asian going there in a group: its the place to go.

Online capital since the beginning of internet dating. But with the wrong assumption that Cebu is only a city: it is an island and girls addressing themselves as being in Cebu but living perhaps 100 km away in a little village on the island of Cebu. It takes some care to sort out your online dates without getting frustrated of the no-shows.

Cebu beach is artificial at some 5 star hotels. Forget it. For Diving go to Moalboal of further to Bohol or Dumaguete..[/QUOTE]Wow. Where'd you find her?

OK. Time for some Cebu FR's. Lets see where it goes from here.

Another pic to celebrate. Long-and-lean thing was a solid bang, but preferred to have a post-f*ck go with this cum-maker. She burned thru at least two dozen jolts with this thing over several years.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033436]OK. Time for some Cebu FR's. Lets see where it goes from here.

Another pic to celebrate. Long-and-lean thing was a solid bang, but preferred to have a post-f*ck go with this cum-maker. She burned thru at least two dozen jolts with this thing over several years.[/QUOTE]Well done Westie.

The old Hitachi Magic Wand plug in version if I'm not mistaken.

How did she go during the brownouts:).

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3033265]There was a CEBU. Thread on this board, but hidden somewhere and not easy to find. Now it is there where it belongs to.

Cebu was never a bar-city as Angeles or Manila Burgos.

Online capital since the beginning of internet dating. But with the wrong assumption that Cebu is only a city: it is an island and girls addressing themselves as being in Cebu but living perhaps 100 km away in a little village on the island of Cebu. It takes some care to sort out your online dates without getting frustrated of the no-shows.[/QUOTE]Have to agree Ama.

At least now there's a spot to discuss Cebu in the main forum.

On my first trip to Cebu I purchased a cell / mobile phone with a local sim card and it was all set up for me in-store.

About an hour after leaving the store, I get a message from the 'sales lady' asking if I wanted to meet her when she finished work.

Yes, it's not your typical Angeles / Makati bar scene, but hell, I've discovered some great freelance opportunities in Cebu.

And had a great time doing it _ Phil.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3033196]You met the future doctor with street game or online?

............[/QUOTE]In the restaurant / coffee shop downstairs ABC hotel, some of them come there to eat after school / shift. Just be there after 3 pm, the place gets flooded with future medics.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3033464]The old Hitachi Magic Wand plug in version if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]I'm on my fourth Hitachi here in Phils. This one was #2.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3033464]How did she go during the brownouts.[/QUOTE]She did great all the time. Quiet, sweet. Evenings out for walks, dinner, music, food / drink. And other good stuff. Only a small number of girls get attached to it.

One girl calls it her boyfriend. "Did you bring my boyfriend? Hahaha". And, "I will service you good then I will use my boyfriend. You will vee-joe again?" Yap. She'd be at it for an hour or so, getting several jolts, Facebooking between jolts.

The pictured gal was a 1-jolter, 10 minutes or less, and only once a day no matter the number of bangs.

The Hitachi you see in the picture; I later traded to a Butuana I was seeing at the time, for a pre-agreed exchange of 2 nights when I was in town. A month after she took it home, she complained that her mother found it among her things and she had to use the excuse that its for self-massaging your back and shoulders, and that I gave it to the girl (the mother knew me). The mother took it from her. A few weeks later the girl said the unit shorted out while mama was using it. I joked that it burned out because mama was masturbating with it while the family slept, and the girl got her horniness from her mama.

Another girl (no longer with me) in Manila used it while standing or walking about the place slowly, and drinking large quantities of water between jolts. This girl would stop by (announced) to use it even when we weren't sessioning. One day she stopped by and brought a girlfriend. The second girl was the one who wanted to try it. The original gal and myself sat in the living room while the horny gal used it in the bedroom with the accordion door closed. After about 15 minutes she came out dressed, but with wobbly legs. Unplanned non-mission accomplished.

And you thought vaxxing was my life story.

Finally a major Cebu forum.

I will be visiting Cebu for the month of February and if I like it, I will stay there.

I will be doing a lot of reading and taking notes.

Firstly, apologies Westie. It looks like the new Cebu thread has some teething probs as I couldn't reply and 'quote' you on a previous topic.

Anyway, I've just lined up a most recent Manila Pina Love contact to spend a week on Bantayan Island.

Costs involved: Cheap flights for both of us, feeding her and probably about 3 x Red Horses a night. Her daily reward will be 4 K which she's more than happy with.

This was one the rare ones who worked out she was not going to get cash off-shore, but only when I saw her.

When you play the freelances game and find a 'keeper' it can be very advantageous. The girls aren't locked into a bar job, you don't have to pay ridiculous bar fines etc.

Basically you can line up a week of sex on tap, with payment directly to the girls and an island holiday that they've never had.

Generally, everyone ends up happy.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3033859]Firstly, apologies Westie. It looks like the new Cebu thread has some teething probs as I couldn't reply and 'quote' you on a previous topic.

Anyway, I've just lined up a most recent Manila Pina Love contact to spend a week on Bantayan Island.

Costs involved: Cheap flights for both of us, feeding her and probably about 3 x Red Horses a night. Her daily reward will be 4 K which she's more than happy with.

This was one the rare ones who worked out she was not going to get cash off-shore, but only when I saw her.

When you play the freelances game and find a 'keeper' it can be very advantageous. The girls aren't locked into a bar job, you don't have to pay ridiculous bar fines etc.

Basically you can line up a week of sex on tap, with payment directly to the girls and an island holiday that they've never had.

Generally, everyone ends up happy.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]This is AMAZING. Well done.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;3033922]This is AMAZING. Well done.[/QUOTE]All good El Moreno.

Thankfully now we'll be able to easily access and share more info that's Cebu specific.

Due to new flights, it looks like I'll be heading straight to Mactan in the future as opposed to MNL.

Looking forward to giving Cebu a lot more attention as a result.

_Phil.

Hi Guys,

I know Mactan isn't your usual mongering area, but I'll be flying in and out of there on business about four of five times in Jan / Feb.

I've had luck in the past with sales girls and a taxi driver's cousin in the area.

I'm booked in to the Waterfront Airport Hotel & Casino Mactan for one night stop-overs.

Just wondering if anyone's had any luck with one, or two night, airport hotel stays without having to venture into Mango?

I'll obviously try my successful routine of tipping the hotel security guys to line me up with talent.

Any other hotel suggestions around the airport would be welcome as I can re-book with a free cancellation up until a week before arrival.

Thanks _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3034999]Hi Guys,
I know Mactan isn't your usual mongering area, but I'll be flying in and out of there on business about four of five times in Jan / Feb.
I've had luck in the past with sales girls and a taxi driver's cousin in the area.
I'm booked in to the Waterfront Airport Hotel & Casino Mactan for one night stop-overs.
Just wondering if anyone's had any luck with one, or two night, airport hotel stays without having to venture into Mango?
I'll obviously try my successful routine of tipping the hotel security guys to line me up with talent.
Any other hotel suggestions around the airport would be welcome as I can re-book with a free cancellation up until a week before arrival.
Thanks _ Phil.[/QUOTE]There are always a huge number of girls listing their location as Lapu Lapu on the dating apps. Mactan Newtown is still the 'new, hip' place to be so you'll find lots if you're wandering around there. Also, J Park is a very popular daytime hangout for people.

Glad there's an easy to find section now. I've been going to Cebu for almost 26 years. Learned a lot mostly from doing stupid things. I Stay out on Mactan Island about 15 minutes from the airport-Then I head out to Camotes Island. I'll be going again for two months January February-I've got it dialled in- transpo, housing etc. Except no current women who are reliable-The bar scene seems to be pretty much crap- I took an old hoofer from Viking last time- Insane pricing- I had to buy 600 pesos in drinks + barfine & tip. More later- I'm chatting with my kid in Carmen.

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;3035074]Glad there's an easy to find section now. I've been going to Cebu for almost 26 years. Learned a lot mostly from doing stupid things. I Stay out on Mactan Island about 15 minutes from the airport-Then I head out to Camotes Island. I'll be going again for two months January February-I've got it dialled in- transpo, housing etc. Except no current women who are reliable-The bar scene seems to be pretty much crap- I took an old hoofer from Viking last time- Insane pricing- I had to buy 600 pesos in drinks + barfine & tip. More later- I'm chatting with my kid in Carmen.[/QUOTE]I'm curious about the Camotes, I was there right after covid for a long time, and I was the only foreigner on the island, I stayed mostly in Santiago, there was only a fat hooker servicing the whole island, and it took me 2 weeks of daily visits to get into the pants of a girl that had a carinderia on the beach. There was some animosity by the San Francisco Bay Walk in the evenings, but I didn't quite figured it out, also I was afraid they may be too young. You can answer in the "other areas" thread.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3035003]There are always a huge number of girls listing their location as Lapu Lapu on the dating apps. Mactan Newtown is still the 'new, hip' place to be so you'll find lots if you're wandering around there. Also, J Park is a very popular daytime hangout for people.[/QUOTE]Thanks BH,

I'm aware of the Newtown area but haven't stayed there before.

I've always taken the hotel route, and it appears a lot of the accommodation in Newtown are condos, or private listings on the major hotel websites.

The reviews are always hit and miss, as you're not dealing with a hotel who has a reputation to uphold.

There's always a risk of these not being guest friendly or facing unknown restrictions upon arrival.

I'll do a bit of research and ask a few questions (not expecting a prompt answer) before booking alternative accommodation.

But thanks for the suggestion.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3035506]Thanks BH,

I'm aware of the Newtown area but haven't stayed there before.

I've always taken the hotel route, and it appears a lot of the accommodation in Newtown are condos, or private listings on the major hotel websites.

The reviews are always hit and miss, as you're not dealing with a hotel who has a reputation to uphold.

There's always a risk of these not being guest friendly or facing unknown restrictions upon arrival.

I'll do a bit of research and ask a few questions (not expecting a prompt answer) before booking alternative accommodation.

But thanks for the suggestion.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]For overnights next to the airport I stay at Vivien's Hotel, across from Times Square where students gather at night at Tom's coffee shop, or if longer at ABC close to Mango SQ.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3035541]For overnights next to the airport I stay at Vivien's Hotel, across from Times Square where students gather at night at Tom's coffee shop, or if longer at ABC close to Mango SQ.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ugly,

Always appreciated.

I'll be booking and re-booking everything over the next week.

Just waiting on work confirmations.

I'm actually looking forward to spending the bulk of my time in Cebu for the upcoming trip.

Different to the usual Makati, Angeles, Subic options.

I'd really like to go back to Sabang, but it's such a close community and everyone knows me there. Not to mention the 'ex-partner' hitting me up to take responsibility for her pregnancy earlier in the year when the dates didn't match up. Demanding a DNA suddenly put a stop to her requests for my responsibility.

(For the new guys, sure, you may grow fond of one of them, but as soon as you're out of there, they're nailing someone else. Some guys just don't get it, and fall in love with opportunistic hookers).

Never-the-less, Cebu for the bulk of the time will be a pleasant change.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3035541]For overnights next to the airport I stay at Vivien's Hotel, across from Times Square where students gather at night at Tom's coffee shop, or if longer at ABC close to Mango SQ.[/QUOTE]Hi Ugly, I checked out Vivien's. Some really good reviews and will keep it in mind. They were booked out on the days I needed to stay.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3035003]There are always a huge number of girls listing their location as Lapu Lapu on the dating apps. Mactan Newtown is still the 'new, hip' place to be so you'll find lots if you're wandering around there. Also, J Park is a very popular daytime hangout for people.[/QUOTE]Hi BH,

I managed to get an apartment in Mactan Newtown at a really good rate. About 35-40 USD per night.

I also have a few meetings lined up in Cebu City soon.

I booked the Quest Hotel. Close to Ayala Mall from what I can see. Any further info or reviews would be appreciated as always.

No doubt, I'll report my adventures at both locations.

If they're still standing by the time I arrive.

Was chatting to a contact on Bantayan Island yesterday, and although they got the rain, no serious typhoon damage to speak of up north.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3036487]Hi Ugly, I checked out Vivien's. Some really good reviews and will keep it in mind. They were booked out on the days I needed to stay.

Hi BH,

I managed to get an apartment in Mactan Newtown at a really good rate. About 35-40 USD per night.

I also have a few meetings lined up in Cebu City soon.

I booked the Quest Hotel. Close to Ayala Mall from what I can see. Any further info or reviews would be appreciated as always.

No doubt, I'll report my adventures at both locations.

If they're still standing by the time I arrive..[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your recaps of Cebu.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3036487]Hi BH,
I managed to get an apartment in Mactan Newtown at a really good rate. About 35-40 USD per night.
I also have a few meetings lined up in Cebu City soon.

I booked the Quest Hotel. Close to Ayala Mall from what I can see. Any further info or reviews would be appreciated as always.
Was chatting to a contact on Bantayan Island yesterday, and although they got the rain, no serious typhoon damage to speak of up north.
_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Hey mate,

The various buildings in Mactan Newtown tend to have their own private beaches which you can use. Well maintained, and clean with proper sand, but a bit of bureaucracy to use it including having to "book" at the building reception and then get a wristband in order to go use them. No cost though.

Quest hotel is a pretty good location. Note that you can walk across the main road and then through the bus terminal (walk down the ramp to the lower level) in order to get into Ayala more directly. The central courtyard (north end) is a decent catchment area.

We really aren't experiencing much from the typhoon here at the moment. (I live up against the edge of the hills, not closer to the water) other than a bit of wind. No rain at all currently. My concern for the people up north is those that are already displaced because of the earthquake and living under tarps. Doesn't take much wind for those to be destroyed. I spoke to the contacts I worked with at MDRRMO for the aid trip and they had moved people into stronger temporary shelters for Typhoon Tino and have kept them there until this storm has passed by. Fingers crossed.

Enjoy!

As per the previous posts, I've booked an apartment in the Newtown area on Mactan via [URL]Booking.com[/URL].

I got a message from the host this week telling me to contact him via WhatsApp as opposed to the booking website for better communication.

I'd booked the room for two and he asked me the name of my partner.

A little apprehensive, I said, "I haven't met her yet. ".

He advised he might be able to assist.

We'll see what happens here.

From experience, the unexpected can certainly be some of the best adventures.

_ Phil.

Hey guys,

I've just returned back home after spending about a month in Cebu- city.

And truly recommend Solinea Towers an apartment complex.

You can book thru Airbnb. About Australian dollars 50 per night or 1900 peso; for a studio apartment.

Across the road from the Ayala Centre.

No issues with bringing girls to your apartment in the lobby.

To the Airbnb host, I mentioned just one guest; me, but never an issue with bringing any girl back to my apartment.

The concierge asked for their ID; they keep that, and then they return it to the girl when she leaves very very smooth.

Never any issues with any of the staff in the lobby.

Well built building in a fantastic location very convenient as being close right next door to Ayala.

Huge pool complex on the ground floor, on the seventh floor a garden area.

A huge gym through.

A seperate room for playing pool.

On the ground floor itself, there's a 711, a bakery, a cafe.

So you can stay away from the tangle of Cebu traffic.

But yeah five minutes ride on a motorcycle and you're in Mango Square with the girly bars.

Can truly recommend this location Solinea Towers, Cebu Business Park, Cebu City.

As I was explaining to my friend back home, I've just returned back to Australia after being in Cebu- city for a month.

I said to him dating the girls and over there is like trying to herd cats.

Lots of prospects, but the girlsl seem to have lots of issues; like obviously work issues, timing of Work, getting a babysitter.

Having enough money for transport and having their own phone which is working.

Taking care of other family members many responsibilities.

And to get get one home run with a new girl.

It's achievable but yeah seriously a bit of frustration getting there.

When I think you just have to go without that's life in the Philippines.

In a third world country that's just the way it is.

I was last in Cebu city in February 2025, and even that the eight months difference I can see the girls seem to be getting wider.

That dream girl being slim; is not that easy to find. Just being honest and straight up.

Once they get over 25 these days they seem to spread and to find a slim girl over 30 not that easy at all.

This is my experience from the dating sites Date in Asia, bumble and Badoo.

That's where I was finding my dates and my girls that would stay overnight. Lots of lots of lots of takers, half of them lady boys and the other half big large women which I'm not into.

Definitely must do a video call to confirm that the girl that's coming to your room is like the photos there's so much into AI photo shopping the photos.

Or their photos from 15 years ago.

The girl on the profile can be very very different to the girl as she is today.

Regards prices quite easy to get a girl to stay for the night overnight. 4000.

I'the ask you to come about 8 pm. We have dinner together. Couple of beers. Hang out. Have some fun together all night and in the morning she would leave. For 4000.

From WeChat people nearby feature, very easy to get a girl to come to your room for 3000 for a short time again I repeat must video call.

To make sure the girl that's coming to your room is what you're seeing on the profile.

I can say that if you're into plumper women; it's your time in the sun in Cebu city.

They seem to be all getting plumper.

I'm into slim women so hard to find a slim girl. They are there, certainly.

But most girls over 27 are getting chubby.

There is nothing like a lovely Filipino girl spending time with you.

Watch out for all the scammers.

I found if you see a girl more than once, and the more often you see her the more becomes like a true girlfriend experience.

Relaxed, no looking at the clock.

Yeah, both of you just having a good time together. That's what I enjoy in Cebu.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]As I was explaining to my friend back home, I've just returned back to Australia after being in Cebu- city for a month.

SNIP

I was last in Cebu city in February 2025, and even that the eight months difference [u]I can see the girls seem to be getting wider[/u]. That dream girl being slim; is not that easy to find. Just being honest and straight up. Once they get over 25 these days they seem to spread and to find a slim girl over 30 not that easy at all.[/QUOTE]We been singing this song about Phils for at least a decade. Sung to the tune of [B]"Jollibee O Jollibee"[/B]. In general, filipina have a short looks shelf life, often geared to dissipate starting middle 20's.

I'm thinking of giving Cebu a shot in the new year.

I fancy another coastal town as I'm currently in the Nang, Vietnam (this isn't for mongering motives). Certainly not Manila, which I wouldn't consider for a longer-term visit anyway; I can even avoid it by flying direct.

If it ticks the main boxes (again mongering would be secondary, especially if I could hook up a regular FWB or similar arrangement), I could extend the visa quite easily and cheaply, it appears. English is more widely spoken than VN, for a start. For accommodation possibilities I've joined some FB rental groups. Will sound them out nearer the dates I'm thinking to move.

Sidebar- Am I correct in believing that an onward (or return) ticket must be shown upon arrival? If so, how does that work if someone doesn't leave the country in the first month and gets a visa extension? Just forfeit the return leg on a budget airline?

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3037798]

Sidebar- Am I correct in believing that an onward (or return) ticket must be shown upon arrival? If so, how does that work if someone doesn't leave the country in the first month and gets a visa extension? Just forfeit the return leg on a budget airline?[/QUOTE]Yes is correct, but don't waste any money. Buy an expensive separate return ticket that is refundable, and cancel it afterwards. Also have your lodging address handy and 2 days prior to traveling submit your trip in the eTravel app. You will be asked about all this by the airline before getting your boarding pass. Immigration may or may not ask.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]....

Lots of prospects, but the girlsl seem to have lots of issues; like obviously work issues, timing of Work, getting a babysitter.

.............[/QUOTE]I think that's universal anywhere in the world.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3037823]Yes is correct, but don't waste any money. Buy an expensive separate return ticket that is refundable, and cancel it afterwards. Also have your lodging address handy and 2 days prior to traveling submit your trip in the eTravel app. You will be asked about all this by the airline before getting your boarding pass. Immigration may or may not ask.[/QUOTE]Thanks, O&you. I remember filling out the etravel thing for my Manila trip. Immigration asked nothing that time, but who knows next time.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3037895]Thanks, O&you. I remember filling out the etravel thing for my Manila trip. Immigration asked nothing that time, but who knows next time.[/QUOTE]They don't ask because it pops up in their computer probably when they enter your info. But regardless of that, I fill it up when I exit also, even that everybody says is not necessary, to avoid any unforeseen complication, it takes few minutes. Maybe the exit portion which is clearly a part of each eTravel application, because it's there waiting to be filled up, is not implemented yet, until one day out of the blue, when you either cannot exit until you submit it, and may not have signal to do it, or they may say that you overstayed your visa because you didn't exited. It's PH, I try avoiding any unnecessary complications, don't order a big mac without the onions, take it out by yourself, it's all I can say, otherwise strange surprises may await for you.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]As I was explaining to my friend back home, I've just returned back to Australia after being in Cebu- city for a month.

I said to him dating the girls and over there is like trying to herd cats.

Lots of prospects, but the girls seem to have lots of issues; like obviously work issues, timing of Work, getting a babysitter.

Having enough money for transport and having their own phone which is working.

Taking care of other family members many responsibilities.

And to get one home run with a new girl.

It's achievable but yeah seriously a bit of frustration getting there.

When I think you just have to go without that's life in the Philippines.

In a third world country that's just the way it is.

[/QUOTE]Hi Jack,

Basically, you've summed up The Phils, and not just Cebu, pretty well.

However, I've found over time, once you know how to play the game, you can basically get what you want. It just takes a lot of return visits, learning experiences and to know where to look.

As many would know, for me, if she has a vagina and gets into the action, then it's a hit. I'm not too fussy, as long as she's not a dead root looking to take advantage of a foreigner for a short time. Aka bar girls.

No bar fines, expensive LD's etc, then I'll reward her for the long time / overnight action as you mention.

Rewards are generally feeding them, paying for their time and fares etc. And obviously building trust for return visits.

I currently have a hot thirty-something find as a contact and she's pretty damned good. Hooked up with her on Pina. She knows she won't get cash out of me when I'm back home, but she'll get rewarded as soon as I land back in The Phils.

There's always a lot of negatives thrown around these days about action in The Phils. However, I believe the majority has to do with the Korean influenced bar scene. I understand that might be the easy way to hook-up for first timers, but once you discover the alternatives, this country can be great.

Learn a little of the language, befriend some locals (security hotel guys are a must) and you'll have some unforgettable moments. Or those you may want to keep to yourself!

Just my experience _ Phil.

Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Yes it looks like it, but you have to be quick, because the offers are taken within minutes, and usually are a one time deal. Also you'll need to understand the slang, and what's going on, I tried myself, but unsuccessfully, only my GF understands it.

I gave up on it, but I had to have a FB account for hotel reservations in remote areas.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]My advice would be to not waste your time. Walker girls will typically want higher prices than an equivalent freelancer or regular online girl and performance will be average at best. From the guys' side, competition if fierce as it's not uncommon for each post to get 10's or even 100's of replies.

If you want to try FB, you are better off setting up a regular profile and set your location to Cebu. Add a few local girl as friends and the reach of FB will do the work for you. Friends of friends will be suggested or they will contact you directly as you pop up in their feed. Costs will be more realistic and you can view their unfiltered happy snaps.

Of course, the above assumes that your not bothered if the suggestions continue when your back home. Friends and family will receive suggestions to befriend 'special' friends that you made while away.

There is a shit tonne of action in Cebu from all the itinerant workers and students in town who are broke and without nosey friends and family watching their every move.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.
(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).
Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.
I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.Is this what we're talking about?Seems to be a bit of local action on here._ Phil.[/QUOTE]Sort of tickling the tip of the iceberg. Like everything else there is a bit of a learning curve in the beginning. FB and the like is where I do 99% of all my farming and it has served me very well over the past decade or so.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3037904]They don't ask because it pops up in their computer probably when they enter your info. But regardless of that, I fill it up when I exit also, even that everybody says is not necessary, to avoid any unforeseen complication, it takes few minutes. Maybe the exit portion which is clearly a part of each eTravel application, because it's there waiting to be filled up, is not implemented yet, until one day out of the blue, when you either cannot exit until you submit it, and may not have signal to do it, or they may say that you overstayed your visa because you didn't exited. It's PH, I try avoiding any unnecessary complications, don't order a big mac without the onions, take it out by yourself, it's all I can say, otherwise strange surprises may await for you.[/QUOTE]I assume that the flight out of the country can be to anywhere? Doesn't have to be a return. ?

I noticed Philippine Airlines charges 30 US dollars to refund each leg of journey, even in Business class, in addition to the top tier option of Economy. While Cebu Pacific offers cancelation but 'refund' in their Go Flexi tier is to credit what they call your Travel Fund, to be used at a later date flying with them, but with no cancelation fees like PA.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038378]I assume that the flight out of the country can be to anywhere? Doesn't have to be a return. ?

I noticed Philippine Airlines charges 30 US dollars to refund each leg of journey, even in Business class, in addition to the top tier option of Economy. While Cebu Pacific offers cancelation but 'refund' in their Go Flexi tier is to credit what they call your Travel Fund, to be used at a later date flying with them, but with no cancelation fees like PA.[/QUOTE]Your thinking is correct. You need any outbound ticket, on any airline (not just CP or PAL), that departs 29 days (or less) after your entry date. There are airlines that offer more expensive but cancellable / refundable 1-way tickets. Just purchase such a ticket, and after you get to your condo / hotel, cancel it for a refund.

Then later if you want, you can visa-extend your stay past the initial 29 days for an additional 29 days at any BI office. The largest (and most crowded) such office is in Intramuros. A smaller and less-used BI office is on floor 5 of the Makati Circuit mall. You can also use 'fixer' travel agents to pick up your PP and documents, take them to a BI office, extend for you, and return your PP to you the same day, for an additional fee (often p1000-1500).

Does anyone have a current approximation of the 1-hour express fee (all-in)?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3038384]Your thinking is correct. You need any outbound ticket, on any airline (not just CP or PAL), that departs 29 days (or less) after your entry date. There are airlines that offer more expensive but cancellable / refundable 1-way tickets. Just purchase such a ticket, and after you get to your condo / hotel, cancel it for a refund.

Then later if you want, you can visa-extend your stay past the initial 29 days for an additional 29 days at any BI office. The largest (and most crowded) such office is in Intramuros. A smaller and less-used BI office is on floor 5 of the Makati Circuit mall. You can also use 'fixer' travel agents to pick up your PP and documents, take them to a BI office, extend for you, and return your PP to you the same day, for an additional fee (often p1000-1500).

Does anyone have a current approximation of the 1-hour express fee (all-in)?[/QUOTE]1/. Book return ticket Home / MNL*/ Home, returning under 59 days. Note your arrival day is day 1 not day 0.

2/. Book a disposable ticket with Top Onward Ticket or similar departing MNL in under 29 days. Destination doesn't matter and TOT will select it for you if you leave it blank. Cost is $16.

3/. At Check-in at your home airport declare that you are flying to MNL and departing PH as detailed in step 2 above. If you say you are departing in 59 days as in step 1, the airline have every right to refuse you boarding as you do not yet guaranteed a visa for 59 days.

4/. Upon arrival in MNL, collect bags and go direct to the Immigration One Stop Shop in T3 Level 3 near the Departure Check-ins. Note that they are only open normal business hours.

5/. Request a visa extension to 59 days. Charge was P3070 but may have risen recently. Have correct money as no change is given. The process takes maybe 10 minutes. Keep the receipt as proof of extension as your passport may or may ot be stamped.

6/. If you arrived out of hours or in another terminal, then you can process the visa extension the next day saying that you arrived yesterday and everything was closed. Note that technically the extension can only be issued at the airport on the day of arrival.

7/. TOT ticket is automatically cancelled at the end of the validity period you requested when you bought it. You don't have to do anything.

8/. Enjoying the Philippines for 58 days or less.

9/. Upon departure show Immigration the receipt from step 5 if your passport was not stamped.

10/. Post to ISG all your conquests in minute detail.

*I don't know if other international airports allow visa extensions upon arrival.

Enjoy. G.

I didn't extended it for a while now, because I always exited and reentered (more fun) but the last few times I did it in the eTravel app, no need to go to the office.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3038413]I didn't extended it for a while now, because I always exited and reentered (more fun) but the last few times I did it in the eTravel app, no need to go to the office.[/QUOTE]When is your next trip to Phnom Penh?

[QUOTE=Goferring;3038164]My advice would be to not waste your time. Walker girls will typically want higher prices than an equivalent freelancer or regular online girl and performance will be average at best. From the guys' side, competition if fierce as it's not uncommon for each post to get 10's or even 100's of replies.

If you want to try FB, you are better off setting up a regular profile and set your location to Cebu. Add a few local girl as friends and the reach of FB will do the work for you. Friends of friends will be suggested or they will contact you directly as you pop up in their feed. Costs will be more realistic and you can view their unfiltered happy snaps.

Of course, the above assumes that your not bothered if the suggestions continue when your back home. Friends and family will receive suggestions to befriend 'special' friends that you made while away.

There is a shit tonne of action in Cebu from all the itinerant workers and students in town who are broke and without nosey friends and family watching their every move.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks G. I was just kind of wondering what it's all about. Yes, I have a strategy that has worked well up to date. I see many of these FB group pages are public, so blokes / guys need to be aware that if they're commenting on these groups, all their Facebook friends will know _ Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3038148]Yes it looks like it, but you have to be quick, because the offers are taken within minutes, and usually are a one time deal. Also you'll need to understand the slang, and what's going on, I tried myself, but unsuccessfully, only my GF understands it.

I gave up on it, but I had to have a FB account for hotel reservations in remote areas.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ugly,

It appears to be more of a locals hook-up.

I'll keep an eye on things only out of intrigue.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3038199]Sort of tickling the tip of the iceberg. Like everything else there is a bit of a learning curve in the beginning. FB and the like is where I do 99% of all my farming and it has served me very well over the past decade or so.[/QUOTE]Thanks Trans,

Good to hear you've had success. I suppose everyone discovers their preferred method of discovery. Whatever works can't be denied.

I think it proves that the Phils is still full of many opportunities _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3038420]When is your next trip to Phnom Penh?[/QUOTE]I don't know, I'm in Pattaya now, I may be going there when the TH visa expires, or maybe back to PH.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3038384]Your thinking is correct. You need any outbound ticket, on any airline (not just CP or PAL), that departs 29 days (or less) after your entry date. There are airlines that offer more expensive but cancellable / refundable 1-way tickets. Just purchase such a ticket, and after you get to your condo / hotel, cancel it for a refund.

Then later if you want, you can visa-extend your stay past the initial 29 days for an additional 29 days at any BI office. The largest (and most crowded) such office is in Intramuros. A smaller and less-used BI office is on floor 5 of the Makati Circuit mall. You can also use 'fixer' travel agents to pick up your PP and documents, take them to a BI office, extend for you, and return your PP to you the same day, for an additional fee (often p1000-1500).

Does anyone have a current approximation of the 1-hour express fee (all-in)?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3038403]1/. Book return ticket Home / MNL*/ Home, returning under 59 days. Note your arrival day is day 1 not day 0.

2/. Book a disposable ticket with Top Onward Ticket or similar departing MNL in under 29 days. Destination doesn't matter and TOT will select it for you if you leave it blank. Cost is $16.

3/. At Check-in at your home airport declare that you are flying to MNL and departing PH as detailed in step 2 above. If you say you are departing in 59 days as in step 1, the airline have every right to refuse you boarding as you do not yet guaranteed a visa for 59 days.

4/. Upon arrival in MNL, collect bags and go direct to the Immigration One Stop Shop in T3 Level 3 near the Departure Check-ins. Note that they are only open normal business hours.

5/. Request a visa extension to 59 days. Charge was P3070 but may have risen recently. Have correct money as no change is given. The process takes maybe 10 minutes. Keep the receipt as proof of extension as your passport may or may ot be stamped.

6/. If you arrived out of hours or in another terminal, then you can process the visa extension the next day saying that you arrived yesterday and everything was closed. Note that technically the extension can only be issued at the airport on the day of arrival.

7/. TOT ticket is automatically cancelled at the end of the validity period you requested when you bought it. You don't have to do anything.

8/. Enjoying the Philippines for 58 days or less.

9/. Upon departure show Immigration the receipt from step 5 if your passport was not stamped.

10/. Post to ISG all your conquests in minute detail.

*I don't know if other international airports allow visa extensions upon arrival.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for input, fellas.

I might go the onward ticket route with Cebu Pacific. It seems you can even book their lowest 'Basic' economy package (of the three levels) and as long as you choose the add on 'Cebu Flexi' into your package, this allows the cancelation and Travel Fund transfer option.

On the express extension query, someone posted today on FB that they'd paid 4045 PHP for the option (and couldn't understand the receipt they'd received).

I came across this visa info site, but it seems the prices are out of date if the price above was paid. [URL]https://www.visatraveler.com/visa/philippines/visa-extension/[/URL].

Side query: been seeing reference to 'walkers'. Could someone explain the term please? Cheers.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038497]On the express extension query, someone posted today on FB that they'd paid 4045 PHP for the option (and couldn't understand the receipt they'd received).

I came across this visa info site, but it seems the prices are out of date if the price above was paid. [URL]https://www.visatraveler.com/visa/philippines/visa-extension/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Some info (updated June of this year). See the pics for costs / breakdown. :

[URL]https://expatsinmanila.com/the-new-philippines-tourist-visa-extension-requirements/[/URL]

On the second pic (2-month extension), that Alien Certificate of Registration (p1000) is paid just one time, on that extension only. Subsequent 2-month extensions don't have that.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038497]Side query: been seeing reference to 'walkers'. Could someone explain the term please? Cheers.[/QUOTE]Walkers are girls on FB who are advertising discrete meetups with you. Supposedly they will tell nosy family or neighbors that they are going out 'for a walk', and will be back later. Contact can be made in FB PM for details. There are good and bad points here. Some of the bad points can be: Fuglies, or overcharging for service.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038497]Thanks for input, fellas.

I might go the onward ticket route with Cebu Pacific. It seems you can even book their lowest 'Basic' economy package (of the three levels) and as long as you choose the add on 'Cebu Flexi' into your package, this allows the cancelation and Travel Fund transfer option.

On the express extension query, someone posted today on FB that they'd paid 4045 PHP for the option (and couldn't understand the receipt they'd received).

I came across this visa info site, but it seems the prices are out of date if the price above was paid. [URL]https://www.visatraveler.com/visa/philippines/visa-extension/[/URL].

Side query: been seeing reference to 'walkers'. Could someone explain the term please? Cheers.[/QUOTE]A friend the other day went to the BI in Manila terminal 3. Officer stated that office can only do extensions within 5 days of arrival.

He later went to a province BI and got an extension for 4070 pesos. Took him 10 minutes and he was out the door with it. I think the few pesos difference was for copying his passport.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3038517]Some info (updated June of this year). See the pics for costs / breakdown. :

[URL]https://expatsinmanila.com/the-new-philippines-tourist-visa-extension-requirements/[/URL]

On the second pic (2-month extension), that Alien Certificate of Registration (p1000) is paid just one time, on that extension only. Subsequent 2-month extensions don't have that.

Walkers are girls on FB who are advertising discrete meetups with you. Supposedly they will tell nosy family or neighbors that they are going out 'for a walk', and will be back later. Contact can be made in FB PM for details. There are good and bad points here. Some of the bad points can be: Fuglies, or overcharging for service.[/QUOTE]Thanks WC1. Appreciated. And for the useful link and terminology explanation!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3038517]
Walkers are girls on FB who are advertising discrete meetups with you. Supposedly they will tell nosy family or neighbors that they are going out 'for a walk', and will be back later. Contact can be made in FB PM for details. There are good and bad points here. Some of the bad points can be: Fuglies, or overcharging for service.[/QUOTE]Curious about this I had a rummage around FB. The Walkers use short messages often a mix of English and Filipino. I saw the phrase 'no DP' several times and later learnt that it means 'no downpayment'. Still not sure what this is a euphemism for. Though I imagine it doesn't mean they don't want any payment for FS or whatever they're offering. Some girls just write 'Up', meaning open to offers at that moment, I suppose. Be good to find a site resource offering translation and explanation of the terminology. I experimented with one girl who uses tg.

Me- Hi.

Her- Location.

Me -Mandaue.

Her. When Mo take? (is 'Mo' Money or Motorcar or. ?

Me -8 (assuming it's Motor).

Her. Go.

Talk about economical use of language LOL.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3038521]A friend the other day went to the BI in Manila terminal 3. Officer stated that office can only do extensions within 5 days of arrival.

He later went to a province BI and got an extension for 4070 pesos. Took him 10 minutes and he was out the door with it. I think the few pesos difference was for copying his passport.[/QUOTE]Back when I was still a visa-extending fella, I learned to stay away from the Intramuros office (when possible) during normal daytime hours. Once I moved here and then to the province, I discovered that getting into the local BI office in the first 15-30-ish minutes from when they opened usually meant that I was the first (and only) customer in the place, and was rarely in the place more than 15 minutes. I found myself alone with the staff, and got to know them on a friendly basis.

I asked a mate yesterday here how much his most recent 2-month extension was and he griped a bit, saying the fee was p4000, an increase that started about 6 months back. I think I reported here a Jennifer Teri video regarding such; she interviewed a BI guy who went thru the price increases. Its also my understanding that many BI offices have completely ceased the 3-day, lower-priced option, and you now must pay the 1-hour express fee whether you like it or not.

Also for those who extend, some advice: Take a picture of your BI extension receipt (and that weird letter they used to give me, saying that I wasn't on a Blacklist), and upload the 2 pics to the cloud. Sure might come in handy if you lose the receipt and you're standing in the outbound immigration line at NAIA.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3038521]A friend the other day went to the BI in Manila terminal 3. Officer stated that office can only do extensions within 5 days of arrival..[/QUOTE]Within 5 days? Is this written somewhere official, too? If so does that mean once through customs and immigration upon arrival one is wise to do the extension there and then? Does Cebu airport have same service?

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038689]Within 5 days? Is this written somewhere official, too? If so does that mean once through customs and immigration upon arrival one is wise to do the extension there and then? Does Cebu airport have same service?[/QUOTE]Let's not get technical here. It's the Philippines po. It doesn't matter if it is written somewhere. It was that officer's interpretation that day.

I don't know or care about Cebu airport. I don't enter PH in Cebu.

As to wisdom it would be up to each individual and one's circumstances. I. e. If one arrived at 1 am and the BI is closed. Does he come back within the 5 days?

I arrive 6 am and want to catch the 7 am Genesis bus to AC so I am not stopping at the BI even if it is opened then.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038678]Curious about this I had a rummage around FB. The Walkers use short messages often a mix of English and Filipino. I saw the phrase 'no DP' several times and later learnt that it means 'no downpayment'. Still not sure what this is a euphemism for. Though I imagine it doesn't mean they don't want any payment for FS or whatever they're offering. Some girls just write 'Up', meaning open to offers at that moment, I suppose. Be good to find a site resource offering translation and explanation of the terminology. I experimented with one girl who uses tg.

Me- Hi.

Her- Location.

Me -Mandaue.

Her. When Mo take? (is 'Mo' Money or Motorcar or. ?

Me -8 (assuming it's Motor).

Her. Go.

Talk about economical use of language LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes Mary, a lot can get lost in translation.

No downpayment or no deposit is a bit of security.

There's lots of scammers on sites like Locanto who will ask for a deposit or a trike fare in advance.

This basically equates to 'money gone, no pussy coming'.

_ Phil.

Will be making my maiden voyage to the Philippines (As an adult) next week. A day and a half in Manila and then down to Cebu for several days before I fly back out. As always, grateful to Wicked Roger for arranging my "tour guide" while I'm in country. Met him in Dubai and has been a stand-up guy ever since. Hopefully I can meet up with some vets while in Cebu.

I was on a short day trip and Wicked Roger had helped me couple of years back with a very nice sex craze (nympho) filipino lady in Singapore. Wicked Roger has been very quiet recently, hope all is well.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;3038815]Will be making my maiden voyage to the Philippines (As an adult) next week. A day and a half in Manila and then down to Cebu for several days before I fly back out. As always, grateful to Wicked Roger for arranging my "tour guide" while I'm in country. Met him in Dubai and has been a stand-up guy ever since. Hopefully I can meet up with some vets while in Cebu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3038979]I was on a short day trip and Wicked Roger had helped me couple of years back with a very nice sex craze (nympho) filipino lady in Singapore. Wicked Roger has been very quiet recently, hope all is well.[/QUOTE]Wicked Roger knows numerous girls and has helped many guys out on the board and elsewhere. Whatever kink (s) you may have, he will know someone who can satisfy your needs. To top that off, he's also just a very nice guy.

He introduced me to a lovely girl who desperately wanted her own Bonnie Blue moment. She asked me to find her multiple dicks for a no holes barred spit roast afternoon in AC.

I know he was having some health issues but hopefully he is ok. Has anyone heard from him?

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3039019]Wicked Roger knows numerous girls and has helped many guys out on the board and elsewhere. Whatever kink (s) you may have, he will know someone who can satisfy your needs. To top that off, he's also just a very nice guy.

He introduced me to a lovely girl who desperately wanted her own Bonnie Blue moment. She asked me to find her multiple dicks for a no holes barred spit roast afternoon in AC.

I know he was having some health issues but hopefully he is ok. Has anyone heard from him?

G.[/QUOTE]I'm in frequent contact with Wicked Roger. He's hanging in there.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;3039032]I'm in frequent contact with Wicked Roger. He's hanging in there.[/QUOTE]Good to know that. WR was my first contact here in Cebu 12 years ago. He referred to me a few hotties.

Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers (young hotties) at the Ayala Mall? I've read it's a place to do that, but not sure the best way to do it? I'm a little apprehensive about assuming every solo female is there for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I got a massage with he at Chuva Chuva Spa. GPS coordinates 10.308809,123.895047.

It's 1000 php for body massage with he with no touching and girl keeps clothes on. You can tip extra to touch and for her to strip but I opted not to. I would have tipped extra for a BJ, but she wasn't willing to do it. I first declined an overweight girl, then they sent me a thin attractive girl. She told me she was 33 yo even though I would have guessed early 20's. She also wouldn't give me her WhatsApp for any extras at my hotel. I tipped her 500 php anyway even though it wasn't required.

Started out at the KTV that is in the same building as Chuva Chuva Spa. It's called Xoxo KTV. I sat down and they told me a Coke Zero costs 350 php so I left immediately. Only a few of girls were even decent looking and they seemed to have bad attitudes from afar, but I didn't interact with any. After I left, I read the Google reviews and it seems like I got lucky they didn't try to scam me worse.

So I went to Viking. Luckily there was a cute girl sitting by herself (all the other cute ones were occupied). Her drink was 240 php and my Coke Zero was 115 php. After a minute of small talk, I asked if she wanted to go to my hotel for 5000 php. She agreed, but said she has a drink quota and still need 3 more drinks, so I paid that. Total with everything was 6075 php (about $103 usd).

So we went back to my hotel. She left after one round, although she did ask if she could leave. Last time I went to Viking was 3 years ago and had two girls over that stayed all night. I didn't mind that she left because although she was nice, the conversation was dull. I'm not sure what I'm expected to have in common with a 22 yo at my age LOL. She even paid for her own cab both ways because I had no small bills. I offered to pay Grab, but she refused. She asked for a tip at the end and I said no but offered to reimburse for taxi but she refused.

My final verdict is that Thailand is much better. The options are just too limited here.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039314]Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers (young hotties) at the Ayala Mall? I've read it's a place to do that, but not sure the best way to do it? I'm a little apprehensive about assuming every solo female is there for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]You are not wrong, most women in the mall are just regular folk shopping. Bo's Coffee is a good spot to sit and watch the ladies go by. The girls on the take usually make eye contact, or might even chat you up. Careful the bakla there.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039485]My final verdict is that Thailand is much better. The options are just too limited here.[/QUOTE]Ya, for straight up poon, we been saying that for a while.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3039519]You are not wrong, most women in the mall are just regular folk shopping. Bo's Coffee is a good spot to sit and watch the ladies go by. The girls on the take usually make eye contact, or might even chat you up. Careful the bakla there.[/QUOTE]Several attractive civilian Pinas have said that they actively avoid Ayala, tired of constantly being hit on by randy 60 year olds. Most of the hookers and walkers I saw there were well past their prime. It does make a convenient place to meet online girls etc because it's so easy to find and get to. I wouldn't go there looking for street meat though.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. One from left field: third hand info is that the bored and cheated upon Korean wives can be fair game there.

What's good for the Goose and all that.

G.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039314]Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers [b](young hotties)[/b] at the Ayala Mall? [/QUOTE]Sorry I missed the part about young hotties. I wouldn't classify them as old hags, but they are akin to the Makati Burgos St girls: Bit older and / or chubbier. Haven't had one since pre-covid, so things might have changed. They were never young kollej students looking for quick cash.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3039567]Sorry I missed the part about young hotties. I wouldn't classify them as old hags, but they are akin to the Makati Burgos St girls: Bit older and / or chubbier. Haven't had one since pre-covid, so things might have changed. They were never young kollej students looking for quick cash.[/QUOTE]I've never done Ayala in Cebu Westie but I'll be staying near there soon. I assume it's a bit like Robinsons in Malate where the older / chubbier ones hit on you out the front, before getting warned by security.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3039535]Several attractive civilian Pinas have said that they actively avoid Ayala, tired of constantly being hit on by randy 60 year olds. Most of the hookers and walkers I saw there were well past their prime. It does make a convenient place to meet online girls etc because it's so easy to find and get to. I wouldn't go there looking for street meat though.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I can relate to that G. The whole mall thing has never made sense to me. The girls working or shopping there are generally well educated (for Phils standards) and aren't on the hunt for an older foreigner. If I've scored with a shop assistant, it's never been in the mega malls. They value their jobs too much to take the risk, which is understandable.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039314]Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers (young hotties) at the Ayala Mall? I've read it's a place to do that, but not sure the best way to do it? I'm a little apprehensive about assuming every solo female is there for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong Random.

To hit a mall is not a walk-up start. It's a bit of a desperate option if you don't want to do the bar scene or Pina doesn't get results. Which is hard to believe in Cebu.

PS_ Happy this Cebu thread is getting a lot of action now it's no longer buried at the bottom of the page.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3039591]I've never done Ayala in Cebu Westie but I'll be staying near there soon. I assume it's a bit like Robinsons in Malate where the older / chubbier ones hit on you out the front, before getting warned by security.[/QUOTE]Good comparison of Ayala / Cebu and Robinson's / Malate, but I don't know that it helps guys like Random, who've never been to either one before. I think he's getting it now.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039314]Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers (young hotties) at the Ayala Mall? I've read it's a place to do that, but not sure the best way to do it? I'm a little apprehensive about assuming every solo female is there for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]I've had luck at the Social (bar) on the top floor later at night. I saw multiple women from PinaLove there looking for their next date. They weren't what I'the call stunners. Most were late 20's to mid 30's, some thin, some chubby, kinda cute. I've given them 2-3 k for st, after a few drinks and maybe some food of course. I'the say all the hot ones were there with dates already.

Edit: I was last there may 2025

[QUOTE=NRandom940;3039314]Anyone got any stories to share about picking up freelancers (young hotties) at the Ayala Mall? I've read it's a place to do that, but not sure the best way to do it? I'm a little apprehensive about assuming every solo female is there for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Here is one from an airport, similar situation: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=3037764&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3037764.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3039717]Here is one from an airport, similar situation: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=3037764&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3037764.[/QUOTE]Tried to fix your link:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=3037764&viewfull=1#post3037764[/URL]

Quite a bit of chat about Ayala mall on here.

So just to clarify there is ayala mall in IT park and the big Ayala center is in Cebu city. There's only 2 km between them, it's always best to make it clear to girls if you are meeting them there.

The reports about it being easy to pick up girls in ayala center or just sit in Bo's and wait for girls are old reports.

Any obvious walkers are old and unattractive. Occasionally you can pick up girls by just smiling and then getting into conversation but you need to be very lucky or young and tall. Especially when only visiting for a short time.

I do see some white guys trying to talk with every girl they walk by, most just ignore them and move on. It looks a bit sad and desperate tbh. I'm sure if you try it on with enough girls it will work eventually.

If anyone has been consistently picking up in ayala I'd love to hear about it.

There are other. Malls where not so many foreigners visit, for example e-mall (rare to see white guys in here) sm mall which you probably stand a better chance in.

Generally online is not what it used to be but still the way to go in cebu.

That's true. Trying to pick up girls in shopping malls seems unlikely.

There are very few women there.

It's better to go to bars or other places.

Even though the prices are higher.

At least it won't be a waste of time.

I have been following this FB group for few days / weeks lapulapu girls, good number of girls (claiming college girls) posting every day / night. But I haven't seen much talked about that FB group here. Has anyone here picked up the girls from this FB group?

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3041377]I have been following this FB group for few days / weeks lapulapu girls, good number of girls (claiming college girls) posting every day / night. But I haven't seen much talked about that FB group here. Has anyone here picked up the girls from this FB group?[/QUOTE]Not from that particular one, but from other, and in different cities. It proved to be difficult if you don't speak FB the Tagalog version of it, I had a translator. You have to move fast, is mostly a 1 time offer, first come, first served system. The adds may be there, but they are expired already.

When you're ready, stay on it, and when the "add" appears offer slightly more than asked, it works psychologically in your favor. If she asks 1000, offer 1100, etc, not a big difference for you.

Good Luck!

Thanks OAG! Thats a good strategy of offering little more than they are asking. So just to be clear, that part of the Philippines don't speak English? Or is it just that they post in FB in Tagalog but speak English?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041413]Not from that particular one, but from other, and in different cities. It proved to be difficult if you don't speak FB the Tagalog version of it, I had a translator. You have to move fast, is mostly a 1 time offer, first come, first served system. The adds may be there, but they are expired already.

When you're ready, stay on it, and when the "add" appears offer slightly more than asked, it works psychologically in your favor. If she asks 1000, offer 1100, etc, not a big difference for you.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3041494]Thanks OAG! Thats a good strategy of offering little more than they are asking. So just to be clear, that part of the Philippines don't speak English? Or is it just that they post in FB in Tagalog but speak English?[/QUOTE]They do speak english everywhere, even on TV is a mix of english with tagalog. On FB is a bunch of abreviations and slang in tagalog and english, and since I'm not a FB user, I have no clue what it means, my GF does the translation.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041413]Not from that particular one, but from other, and in different cities. It proved to be difficult if you don't speak FB the Tagalog version of it, I had a translator. You have to move fast, is mostly a 1 time offer, first come, first served system. The adds may be there, but they are expired already.

When you're ready, stay on it, and when the "add" appears offer slightly more than asked, it works psychologically in your favor. If she asks 1000, offer 1100, etc, not a big difference for you.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]Great strategy. In AC a girl might get 2500-2650 from a 5 k barfine. I get mixed results offing 3 k for their off hours. 3.5 k definitely gets them to come happily. At 3 k I would give a 500 tip. At 3500 no tip they are even happier. Happier when they arrive and leave.

Never try squeeze a few pesos from them.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3041377]I have been following this FB group for few days / weeks lapulapu girls, good number of girls (claiming college girls) posting every day / night. But I haven't seen much talked about that FB group here. Has anyone here picked up the girls from this FB group?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041413]Not from that particular one, but from other, and in different cities. It proved to be difficult if you don't speak FB the Tagalog version of it, I had a translator. You have to move fast, is mostly a 1 time offer, first come, first served system. The adds may be there, but they are expired already.

When you're ready, stay on it, and when the "add" appears offer slightly more than asked, it works psychologically in your favor. If she asks 1000, offer 1100, etc, not a big difference for you.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]I'm the same as Sir Ugly: never used FB Lapu but I have used it with very limited success elsewhere. I think I pulled two girls from the walker sites but the amount of work that it entailed was ridiculous and, yes, the language barrier was real. The girls themselves weren't that great. Not ugly but the performances and attitudes weren't great. I got the impression that they were use to guys just dumping their load and showing them the door.

In short, there are much better options and sources about.

Enjoy. G.

Thank you both G and OAG for your input. I will look at other sources when in Cebu next year.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3041533]I'm the same as Sir Ugly: never used FB Lapu but I have used it with very limited success elsewhere. I think I pulled two girls from the walker sites but the amount of work that it entailed was ridiculous and, yes, the language barrier was real. The girls themselves weren't that great. Not ugly but the performances and attitudes weren't great. I got the impression that they were use to guys just dumping their load and showing them the door.

In short, there are much better options and sources about.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UP3T86;3040080]That's true. Trying to pick up girls in shopping malls seems unlikely.

There are very few women there.

It's better to go to bars or other places.

Even though the prices are higher.

At least it won't be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]Been a while since I mongered because I have a good live in GF, we have been together since early Covid.

But before that I had some success with casual pick ups. The dating sites were more productive, but I did bag more than one sales girl. Just start a conservation when they are dealing with you.

Got the girl from the 7-11 in the ground floor of one block, I just started talking about the rain, it was coming down hard and she mentioned that it would take her a long time to get home, as she was going off shift soon, that was my opening to ask her if she wanted supper, went to the restaurant next to the 7-11, that lead to her spending the night and a couple of return visits.

It does not take a lot of game, just start a conversation and after a minute or two and if they want to get supper after their shift. When supper is over, invite them to your room. Supper does not need to be a fancy restaurant, even food court has worked for me.

I would say that I got them to accept supper about half the time and a 90% of those back to my place afterwards.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3041377]I have been following this FB group for few days / weeks lapulapu girls, good number of girls (claiming college girls) posting every day / night. But I haven't seen much talked about that FB group here. Has anyone here picked up the girls from this FB group?[/QUOTE]Hi Yen,

I'm familiar with the page. Best to learn a little Tagalog or use a translator to know exactly what they're offering.

FB pages like this seem more geared to locals, however, you never know your luck.

If you see something you like, tell them to hit you up on Whatsapp.

Same as all the FL girls on Pina ask you to do the same.

For some reason, most of the freelance action I've ever experienced has been via Whatsapp and that's where I keep all my contacts.

_ Phil.

Thanks Phil, yeah that's right they mostly post in Tagalog, I either right click the FB page and have it translated to English (but at times it doesn't work, that's when google translate comes handy, causing few more clicks with copy and paste).

I noticed that most of the FL on this lapulapu FB page post their telegram ID instead of whatsapp. As they could obscure their phone number. Also, have seen both patterns 1. Recurring posts by few girls, 2. One time posts and haven't seen again. So I haven't collected their TG ID, since I don't plan to visit until next year spring / summer time.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3042139]Hi Yen,

I'm familiar with the page. Best to learn a little Tagalog or use a translator to know exactly what they're offering.

FB pages like this seem more geared to locals, however, you never know your luck.

If you see something you like, tell them to hit you up on Whatsapp.

Same as all the FL girls on Pina ask you to do the same.

For some reason, most of the freelance action I've ever experienced has been via Whatsapp and that's where I keep all my contacts.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]

I missed it during my first trip few weeks back, but more and more post I am reading from senior mongers here that you don't have to be a casanova. You could just striking a simple conversation and within few minutes get the girl out for dinner and to your room from there. I mostly tried FB, DIA and MC during my last trip, but will certainly try this avenue (I am little slower to start that first conversation, but I will certainly try next time).

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;3042104]Been a while since I mongered because I have a good live in GF, we have been together since early Covid.

But before that I had some success with casual pick ups. The dating sites were more productive, but I did bag more than one sales girl. Just start a conservation when they are dealing with you.

Got the girl from the 7-11 in the ground floor of one block, I just started talking about the rain, it was coming down hard and she mentioned that it would take her a long time to get home, as she was going off shift soon, that was my opening to ask her if she wanted supper, went to the restaurant next to the 7-11, that lead to her spending the night and a couple of return visits.

It does not take a lot of game, just start a conversation and after a minute or two and if they want to get supper after their shift. When supper is over, invite them to your room. Supper does not need to be a fancy restaurant, even food court has worked for me.

I would say that I got them to accept supper about half the time and a 90% of those back to my place afterwards.[/QUOTE]

I forgot to mention some girls posts their msg on FB Lapulapu anonymously without any contacts, and mongers post msg on open forum to DM them directly.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3042381]Thanks Phil, yeah that's right they mostly post in Tagalog, I either right click the FB page and have it translated to English (but at times it doesn't work, that's when google translate comes handy, causing few more clicks with copy and paste).

I noticed that most of the FL on this lapulapu FB page post their telegram ID instead of whatsapp. As they could obscure their phone number. Also, have seen both patterns 1. Recurring posts by few girls, 2. One time posts and haven't seen again. So I haven't collected their TG ID, since I don't plan to visit until next year spring / summer time.[/QUOTE]

I'm in Manilla a couple of times a month and tired of the P. Burgos Street action.

Sounds like Wicked Rodger might know of other options?

Apologies if he is on the board here and I missed it.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;3039032]I'm in frequent contact with Wicked Roger. He's hanging in there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3042383]I forgot to mention some girls posts their msg on FB Lapulapu anonymously without any contacts, and mongers post msg on open forum to DM them directly.[/QUOTE]Thanks Yen,

I might check it out when I'm in Cebu next month.

I see that now quite a few are posting their Telegram handles on FB.

I'll let everyone know how it goes if I try the 'walker' thing.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3044253]Thanks Yen,

I might check it out when I'm in Cebu next month.

I see that now quite a few are posting their Telegram handles on FB.

I'll let everyone know how it goes if I try the 'walker' thing.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I find the FB groups a waste of time, most girls on FB are low level, the good looking ones areostly trying to sell videos and vcs services or enrol to their channels. And the ones who are decent are asking 5 k.

You can create posts in the groups such as CEBU MEETS (there are many such groups) but many groups require authorisation from the group admin. And they don't seem to like foreign guys posting. The groups I have managed to post in only get activity from low quality girls.

I have managed to meet girls from FB groups but have rarely (if ever) repeated meeting them.

It would to interesting to. Hear others experiences on there though.

You could also try the FB dating feature, just search dating, it's has a heart shaped icon.

I would personally stick to the dating apps.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3044296]I find the FB groups a waste of time, most girls on FB are low level, the good looking ones areostly trying to sell videos and vcs services or enrol to their channels. And the ones who are decent are asking 5 k.

You can create posts in the groups such as CEBU MEETS (there are many such groups) but many groups require authorisation from the group admin. And they don't seem to like foreign guys posting. The groups I have managed to post in only get activity from low quality girls.

I have managed to meet girls from FB groups but have rarely (if ever) repeated meeting them.

It would to interesting to. Hear others experiences on there though.

You could also try the FB dating feature, just search dating, it's has a heart shaped icon.

I would personally stick to the dating apps.[/QUOTE]I think it's important to distinguish between the Hookup / Walker sites and being referred to friends of friends.

ID agree that the former is an immense waste of time.

However, the later, a girl finding out that you know her classmate and are in town, can be of benefit. I'm happy to invest in a coffee or Jollie meal to meet these.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3044296]You can create posts in the groups such as CEBU MEETS (there are many such groups) but many groups require authorisation from the group admin. And they don't seem to like foreign guys posting. The groups I have managed to post in only get activity from low quality girls.

I have managed to meet girls from FB groups but have rarely (if ever) repeated meeting them.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jingo,

And another thing guys have to remember is that nearly all these groups are public. Therefore, anything you post there can potentially be seen by friends or family on FB.

Probably best to message the girls directly or via Whatsapp or Telegram rather than commenting on one of their posts.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3044406]Thanks Jingo,

And another thing guys have to remember is that nearly all these groups are public. Therefore, anything you post there can potentially be seen by friends or family on FB.

Probably best to message the girls directly or via Whatsapp or Telegram rather than commenting on one of their posts.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Oh don't use your real FB profile to access these groups. Just create a new profile, on FB you are able to create an extra profile on one phone. And you can switch between profiles in the app. But I use my burner phone so there is absolutely no link to my real FB profile.

Also like most girls who post in these group lock your profile, make your friends list private and make your profile photo obscure.

Many girls have a telegram link so it is worth downloading this.

Had a layover in Cebu and decided to try this home service at Quest Hotel. For 3 K + 2 K tip I don't think it was worth it. My provider was named Snow real name Rosha. OK massage and body to body slide finish with an ok HJ. None of my regulars in Cebu were available.

[QUOTE=DCups;3044628]Had a layover in Cebu and decided to try this home service at Quest Hotel. For 3 K + 2 K tip I don't think it was worth it. My provider was named Snow real name Rosha. OK massage and body to body slide finish with an ok HJ. None of my regulars in Cebu were available.[/QUOTE]The massage itself should be in the range of 500, more or less. The rest is arbitrary, and up for negotiating.

[QUOTE=DCups;3044628]Had a layover in Cebu and decided to try this home service at Quest Hotel. For 3 K + 2 K tip I don't think it was worth it. My provider was named Snow real name Rosha. OK massage and body to body slide finish with an ok HJ. None of my regulars in Cebu were available.[/QUOTE]Buddy, go out the front door of the Quest, turn right and walk for two blocks to Yolo Massage. No extras available onsite but girls are happy to come to the room for a 2 HR minimum.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3044713]Buddy, go out the front door of the Quest, turn right and walk for two blocks to Yolo Massage. No extras available onsite but girls are happy to come to the room for a 2 HR minimum..[/QUOTE]OU and G, yuh I know I overpaid but her pic showed the big tits I like. Sadly they shrunk when the padded bra came off but it was still nice.

Hi Guys,

Just wondering in advance if anyone's had much luck with Pina Love in the Newtown area on Mactan?

I'm in Cebu on business at the end of the month and have a bit of time there before heading to the Quest in the city and then onto Manila.

I'll probably just try my usual trick of slipping the hotel security guys a few hundred pesos to line me up.

I'm not fussy. As long as it has a vag and is a good ride without a time restriction, that's all that matters with a freelancer for me.

Never stayed in the Newtown area before. Thanks in advance.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=DCups;3044891]OU and G, yuh I know I overpaid but her pic showed the big tits I like. Sadly they shrunk when the padded bra came off but it was still nice.[/QUOTE]From experience Cups, it's the land of the padded bra.

I personally have never been a tits man _ just as long as they've got some.

Give me a great set of legs in a short skirt leading to the honeypot, and I'll take that as a preference.

Each to their own _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3046715]Hi Guys,

Just wondering in advance if anyone's had much luck with Pina Love in the Newtown area on Mactan?

I'm in Cebu on business at the end of the month and have a bit of time there before heading to the Quest in the city and then onto Manila.

I'll probably just try my usual trick of slipping the hotel security guys a few hundred pesos to line me up.

I'm not fussy. As long as it has a vag and is a good ride without a time restriction, that's all that matters with a freelancer for me.

Never stayed in the Newtown area before. Thanks in advance.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Stayed there once about 2 years ago, in an airbnb in a new highrise, and it looked like I was the only inhabitant in a one km radius. I had 2 girls coming there, but I don't remember if it was PL or DIA, but the directions to the place were so convoluted that after being in the area it took the first one one hour to find me, and for the second one I had to take a taxi and pick her up at Times Square behind the airport, because I didn't wanted to repeat the experience. If you're staying in a hotel it's easy to find.

I remember it because I was amazed by the place that I rented, I didn't know until I got there that the place was a super modern 2 level penthouse, but with a view to some empty fields with yellow grass and trash. Also my GF was scared at night because the wind was making some eerie sounds blowing into the cracks of the glass panes installed by monkeys probably.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046728]Stayed there once about 2 years ago, in an airbnb in a new highrise, and it looked like I was the only inhabitant in a one km radius. I had 2 girls coming there, but I don't remember if it was PL or DIA, but the directions to the place were so convoluted that after being in the area it took the first one one hour to find me, and for the second one I had to take a taxi and pick her up at Times Square behind the airport, because I didn't wanted to repeat the experience. If you're staying in a hotel it's easy to find.

I remember it because I was amazed by the place that I rented, I didn't know until I got there that the place was a super modern 2 level penthouse, but with a view to some empty fields with yellow grass and trash. Also my GF was scared at night because the wind was making some eerie sounds blowing into the cracks of the glass panes installed by monkeys probably.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ugly,

Only there for a few nights work related and then into the Quest in the city.

I'll try my luck with Pina or the Lapu Lapu girls.

As per usual, I'll let you all know how it goes.

_Phil.

Thinking of visiting Bohol pre- or post-Easter. I'm not good on open sea so worried about how rough it could be on the two ferry routes shown on google maps.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3048237]Thinking of visiting Bohol pre- or post-Easter. I'm not good on open sea so worried about how rough it could be on the two ferry routes shown on google maps.[/QUOTE]No worries if the sea is too agitated, they don't do any trips.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3048239]No worries if the sea is too agitated, they don't do any trips.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3048237]Thinking of visiting Bohol pre- or post-Easter. I'm not good on open sea so worried about how rough it could be on the two ferry routes shown on google maps.[/QUOTE]As Ugly said Mary.

Lots of cancelled services in The Phils if things get rough.

As for Bohol, is it a tourist trip or a mongering trip?

I might be wrong, but I've never discovered much action in Bohol on my FL escapades.

From experience, the popular beach areas seem to be geared to diving foreign couples from abroad.

Sure, not a bad place to visit, but it can be very hit and miss with regards to action.

And more miss than hit from experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3048239]No worries if the sea is too agitated, they don't do any trips.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3048274]As Ugly said Mary.

Lots of cancelled services in The Phils if things get rough.

As for Bohol, is it a tourist trip or a mongering trip?

I might be wrong, but I've never discovered much action in Bohol on my FL escapades.

From experience, the popular beach areas seem to be geared to diving foreign couples from abroad.

Sure, not a bad place to visit, but it can be very hit and miss with regards to action.

And more miss than hit from experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Cheers. Not really focus on the hobby, though if the opportunity arises. Just for a chill out contrast to, say, Cebu City or the adjacent commercial / industrial zones. My concern for the crossing (one, two hours?) would be that even if it doesn't justify cancellation due to excessive agitation, it could still induce seasickness. Fairly calm waters would be the ideal.

Hi Guys,

I'll be in Cebu this weekend.

I'd originally booked a serviced apartment in the Newtown area on Mactan for a few days before heading to Quest.

The owner emailed me a few days ago via Booking to say the room was flooded and he'd switch me to his other apartment near the airport, which looked like a dive of a place in comparison.

I've cancelled via Booking and got a full refund but had to make an alternative hotel choice at the last minute.

Just wondering if anyone's stayed at Cebu Grand Vibo Hotel in the city?

As usual I'll be taking the FL and Pina approach.

Thanks in advance _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3049589]Hi Guys,

I'll be in Cebu this weekend.

I'd originally booked a serviced apartment in the Newtown area on Mactan for a few days before heading to Quest.

The owner emailed me a few days ago via Booking to say the room was flooded and he'd switch me to his other apartment near the airport, which looked like a dive of a place in comparison.

I've cancelled via Booking and got a full refund but had to make an alternative hotel choice at the last minute.

Just wondering if anyone's stayed at Cebu Grand Vibo Hotel in the city?

As usual I'll be taking the FL and Pina approach.[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed there. It looks like a good location and good price.

When I was planning a Cebu trip I was considering the Hilton Garden Inn because it's rather new. I think it opened last year.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3049589]Hi Guys,

I'll be in Cebu this weekend.

I'd originally booked a serviced apartment in the Newtown area on Mactan for a few days before heading to Quest.

The owner emailed me a few days ago via Booking to say the room was flooded and he'd switch me to his other apartment near the airport, which looked like a dive of a place in comparison.

I've cancelled via Booking and got a full refund but had to make an alternative hotel choice at the last minute.

Just wondering if anyone's stayed at Cebu Grand Vibo Hotel in the city?

As usual I'll be taking the FL and Pina approach.

Thanks in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]When I'm in that area, I stay at ABC, no reception by the entrance, only a security guy.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3049589]Hi Guys,

I'll be in Cebu this weekend.

I'd originally booked a serviced apartment in the Newtown area on Mactan for a few days before heading to Quest.

The owner emailed me a few days ago via Booking to say the room was flooded and he'd switch me to his other apartment near the airport, which looked like a dive of a place in comparison.

I've cancelled via Booking and got a full refund but had to make an alternative hotel choice at the last minute.

Just wondering if anyone's stayed at Cebu Grand Vibo Hotel in the city?

As usual I'll be taking the FL and Pina approach.

Thanks in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for apartments perhaps try any of the Residences off Escario. Walking distance to Ayala and around the corner from the Quest. I've stayed in a few but remember the Trillium as being a reasonable quality, location and guest friendly. Meet new friends at Ayala or regular visitors were allowed to come straight to the room if they had signed in several times before.

I guess you know that the Quest has balcony rooms separated by solid walls that allow you some privacy while she is leaning over the railing watching the traffic below. The ultimate you can see them but they can't see you.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3049645]I haven't stayed there. It looks like a good location and good price.

When I was planning a Cebu trip I was considering the Hilton Garden Inn because it's rather new. I think it opened last year.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tom,

It was a last minute choice.

Agreed. Looks in a good position.

I'll report back.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049723]I've stayed in a few but remember the Trillium as being a reasonable quality, location and guest friendly.[/QUOTE]Trillium, just around the corner from Quest. Almost forgot about the place. Its possible one can find a good time there.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3049788]Trillium, just around the corner from Quest. Almost forgot about the place. Its possible one can find a good time there.[/QUOTE]Yep. It's pretty popular. I remember several members recognised the bed head and posted identical photos from different angles. May or may not have been the same girl too. I forget.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2270783]Ok, so I made contact with Ms 19 as referred by another member. Yesterday, we agreed that I would send her the fare and she would ferry / van in from San Carlos. Note I was happy to do this based on the recommendation of a trusted member. Normally I would never send cash to an unknown girl. She confirmed that ferries departed pretty much every hour but were quite full.

On the day of departure, the 5 pm ferry was full so she left an hour late which was no concern. During this whole process she was sending numerous messages and photos to show that she was actually buying tickets and getting on board so I wasn't at all concerned that my money had disappeared. She was new to the big city, got lost at the cebu bus terminal but finally made it to my condo shortly before 11 pm.

She was an absolute tiny thing, green as grass but keen to try to please. What she lacked in experience, she made up for in taking direction and putting in an honest effort. Only full penetration anal was aborted as she was just too small. I'm sure with conditioning she would be good to go. She was so tight that it was easy to have several sessions to completion. A rarety for me after weeks at bat every day. She was happy to stay until the 2 pm return ferry. There was certainly no clock watching.

She is broke and actively looking for customers who are seeking a fresh newbie who they are happy to train and provide guidance.

Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049846]I remember several members recognised the bed head and posted identical photos from different angles.[/QUOTE]Not at all sure what you are talking about. Recognize anyone, or anything?

Well after long day of airports, flights and transport, I've landed in Cubu City again.

Turned Pina on about 10 pm last night, and after my location was updated to Cebu, the phone just started pinging.

Just a bit worn out for action on the first night.

This morning I went for a walk down to Ayala, and on top floor near the terraces, I spotted this pretty little thing by the escalator and we made eye contact.

She followed me out onto the terrace and asked me where I was from. Julia's 26 with a fit little bod and withing minutes she said it's 975 p for nude on nude, whatever that means. I asked her if she was into the 'girlfriend option' and she said "Of course Sir".

I had an online business hook-up this afternoon, so unfortunately I couldn't bring her straight back to the room.

However, we've done the whatsapp exchange and we'll go from there.

So in less than 24 hrs, I can confirm that Ayala is definitely a hook up option.

Now to trawl through all the Pina messages.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3050067]Well after long day of airports, flights and transport, I've landed in Cubu City again.

Turned Pina on about 10 pm last night, and after my location was updated to Cebu, the phone just started pinging.

Just a bit worn out for action on the first night.

This morning I went for a walk down to Ayala, and on top floor near the terraces, I spotted this pretty little thing by the escalator and we made eye contact.

She followed me out onto the terrace and asked me where I was from. Julia's 26 with a fit little bod and withing minutes she said it's 975 p for nude on nude, whatever that means. I asked her if she was into the 'girlfriend option' and she said "Of course Sir".

I had an online business hook-up this afternoon, so unfortunately I couldn't bring her straight back to the room.

However, we've done the whatsapp exchange and we'll go from there.

So in less than 24 hrs, I can confirm that Ayala is definitely a hook up option.

Now to trawl through all the Pina messages.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Just an update on Julia.

So, after my business obligations were fulfilled, I sent her a message on WhatsApp, but didn't hear anything back.

I decided to click on Pina and within half an hour I had another two lined up and the was 'chatting away' when a message came back from the Ayala girl. "I come now Sir".

So within half an hour I had Julia in the sack. Roughly 25 years my junior and an awesome little body.

Nude on nude ended up being a hot massage back and front. Once that was done, she said "We boom boom? I need money to support my daughter in Davao".

"How much".

"Two thousand Sir".

"You not in hurry?

"I stay long time Sir Phil".

She was a great little performer. Great little tits and pink bits. Awesome BJ and basically threw me face first into her pussy at one stage. You can tell when they're faking it, but she went off and was extremely wet too. It has always been my forte, just quietly. I've tasted loads of them over the years and this was one of the sweetest.

After three hours, I needed a breather.

She took off with 3 k in her bra, and I was somewhat worn out. A great little FL whom I will definitely be seeing again this week.

All from a chance meeting at the top of an escalator in a shopping mall.

_ Phil.

This is mainly an observation for the new fellas.

As a few would remember from a couple of years back, I couldn't really see the point at the time (for some reason) of hitting the ground and then spending time in a hotel room trying to sort through options and lining up FL's on Pina. I assumed it was better to hit the streets, as that had always worked for me.

It wasn't really until I was in Subic Freeport (where these days there's not much action) and Boracay (where there's basically no mongering hang outs) that I realised how much Pina Love can be such a valuable tool.

A $40 paid premium subscription is a small price to pay for the month, two weeks, or whenever you're here in The Phils.

I use my log-in on both the laptop and the phone app. The laptop makes it easier to read and delete messages, but the phone notifies girls when you're close by. I don't even bother searching for girls on Pina. I simply wait for the messages to come in. A bit like a fishing trip. You'll get a lot of bites from the older or ugly ones, but the ones who take the bait are the ones who want to chat off-app, via Whatsapp etc.

Take today for instance. I had something lined up earlier in the day at the mall, but she took her time to get back to me when we had agreed to meet.

So I jumped on Pina and I've basically got two FL's ready to go. (In the message attached as a pic, working on the computer really means, "Oh, shit, I've got the mall girl heading over here right now".

The ones on Pina that basically want you to chat off-app are the ones who are in it for sex and cash.

I found nogotiating price to be an obstacle at first, but I basically mention what they'll get, it won't be blow and go, and I'll look after them.

"If you look after me, I'll look after you" Wink Wink.

I think G mentioned a while back that Cebu was the online dating capitol of the Phils. That apperas to be correct as I just logged onto Pina close to midnight here and the phone's pinging again.

Now, I'm no oil painting, but at 50 odd, I haven't let myself go either. But if I can reel them in, I assume most can.

Even the waitresses at the lechon restaurant toninght tried to line me up with Joy. "She single, Sir".

One day back on the ground and so many FL choices lined up already.

Got to love The Phils.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3050067]Well after long day of airports, flights and transport, I've landed in Cubu City again.

Turned Pina on about 10 pm last night, and after my location was updated to Cebu, the phone just started pinging.

Just a bit worn out for action on the first night.

This morning I went for a walk down to Ayala, and on top floor near the terraces, I spotted this pretty little thing by the escalator and we made eye contact.

She followed me out onto the terrace and asked me where I was from. Julia's 26 with a fit little bod and withing minutes she said it's 975 p for nude on nude, whatever that means. I asked her if she was into the 'girlfriend option' and she said "Of course Sir".

I had an online business hook-up this afternoon, so unfortunately I couldn't bring her straight back to the room..[/QUOTE]Good report. Glad it worked out for you. I've read mixed reviews on how frequently that mall has action. I was going to stay at one of the nearby hotels and just stroll through to see which FLs were on sale.

I wasn't sure if that would provide enough catches for a full trip. It'll be interesting to hear how your trip turns out.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3050138]Good report. Glad it worked out for you. I've read mixed reviews on how frequently that mall has action. I was going to stay at one of the nearby hotels and just stroll through to see which FLs were on sale.

I wasn't sure if that would provide enough catches for a full trip. It'll be interesting to hear how your trip turns out.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tom,

Being my first visit and a success at that on day one, without actually actively seeking anything, I wouldn't expect to soley rely on the mall for action.

I assume going back to the same spot day after day, could be a bit awkward if you keep on running into previous girls while seeking alternatives.

It's also quite an upmarket mall and I guess the girls wouldn't want to attract too much attention from security and get kicked out.

I'm moving to a hotel across the road in a few days so I'll sniff it out.

I had yesterday's Ayala girl back here tonight for a repeat perfomance and I'm hooking up with her again on Tuesday, so I'll ask her how many are floating around and get the run down.

She'd have to be in the top three of all the 3 k FL's I've had (and that's a lot), so I'm keeping in touch with this one.

_ Phil.

You have to love sinner's Sunday in The Phils.

Woke up a bit hazy and still getting over the travel, late nights and yesterday's action, when I received a message from one of the Pina girls via WhatsApp at about 11 am.

As as the church bells were ringing across the road, and her Pina profile interestingly stated she was 4 foot 4, I thought why not? Popped a vitamin V ready for another round. Probably didn't need it for an early start.

It took her a little while to get here, but I found her downstairs in the lobby and she was a tiny little pocket rocket.

The sex was okay, and her English wasn't great, but she was one of those 3 k FL's that go straight to the bathroom to wash-up, spray water all over the place with the shitter gun, and get dressed as soon as you've fired your first shot. Then she asked for an extra 500 p cause she had to get a taxi home instead of a motorbike due to the rain. I stood my ground and said I had no more cash. Sure, if she'd have been a great root and stayed for a few hours, it wouldn't have been a problem. She might have got an extra 1 k and repeat business.

(I always keep the girl's payment in the pages of a book and keep everything else in the room safe. I know there was a recent post about how useless room safes are because the hotel staff have access, which I agree with, but they're handy to hide your cash and passport when you have a hit and run FL in your room.).

Anyway, I got rid of her knowing she'd be out of here on the back of a 80 p motorcycle within minutes.

Cue to tonight, when yesterday's Ayala Mall girl Julia came back for another round of basically the same. No rush, great conversation (couldn't shut her up and great personality), multiple shots and a two and a half hour session. We're hooking up again on Tuesday when I move on to the Quest Hotel.

As for Pina Love, I've just seen there's a queue of messages there that I haven't had a chance to get to.

Forgive me Father _ Phil.

Moved on to the Quest Hotel today straight across the road from Ayala Mall.

Just after I checked in, I went over to the mall to grab some supplies and try not to get lost in the place. I wasn't looking for any action, but once again I found myself by the terraces on the upper levels and was instantly hit upon. A bit older than the 26 yr old I'm doing now, and a bit rough around the edges, but I probably would have done her. She even followed me into the supermarket on the lower level, but didn't harass me.

Had the original mall girl Julia back late this afternoon. Another 2. 5 hour session for 3 k. I asked her why she didn't blow and go. "Rush hour Sir. Better to stay here".

I love Cebu traffic.

Anyway, I walked her to the transit station across the road from the hotel and I went back to the mall to get a feed for the night. Once again on the terrace side of the property, I was going down an escalator on a lower level and out of nowhere was approached by another girl. Only that I'd just done a few hours with Julia and was hungry, I probably would have jumped at the opportunity.

So yes, you'll get hit on in Ayala Mall. But keep in mind, this has all happened without me looking for it. If I was to go there looking for pussy, I'd probably come up empty. But then there's always Pina Love to fall back on if you're taking the FL route.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3050569]Moved on to the Quest Hotel today straight across the road from Ayala Mall.

Just after I checked in, I went over to the mall to grab some supplies and try not to get lost in the place. I wasn't looking for any action, but once again I found myself by the terraces on the upper levels and was instantly hit upon. A bit older than the 26 yr old I'm doing now, and a bit rough around the edges, but I probably would have done her. She even followed me into the supermarket on the lower level, but didn't harass me.

Had the original mall girl Julia back late this afternoon. Another 2. 5 hour session for 3 k. I asked her why she didn't blow and go. "Rush hour Sir. Better to stay here".

I love Cebu traffic.

Anyway, I walked her to the transit station across the road from the hotel and I went back to the mall to get a feed for the night. Once again on the terrace side of the property, I was going down an escalator on a lower level and out of nowhere was approached by another girl. Only that I'd just done a few hours with Julia and was hungry, I probably would have jumped at the opportunity.

So yes, you'll get hit on in Ayala Mall. But keep in mind, this has all happened without me looking for it. If I was to go there looking for pussy, I'd probably come up empty. But then there's always Pina Love to fall back on if you're taking the FL route.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for better quality than the mall rats, just go up to the Social on LVL 4. It's a relaxing place for beer o'clock, has nice light snacks and the odd girl filters through. She'll he better looking, nicer dressed but will likely have a good idea of here worth too.

Don't worry, it's not a doof doof nightclub. More of a meeting place slash Resto Bar.

Enjoy your stay. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3050599]If you're looking for better quality than the mall rats, just go up to the Social on LVL 4. It's a relaxing place for beer o'clock, has nice light snacks and the odd girl filters through. She'll he better looking, nicer dressed but will likely have a good idea of here worth too.

Don't worry, it's not a doof doof nightclub. More of a meeting place slash Resto Bar.

Enjoy your stay. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks G,

Yes, I've hung on to the first one and she showed me to Social a few days ago.

Didn't see too many other options there, but wasn't really looking.

I think I got lucky with this one. Leaves me alone and works 'till four or five every day and then it's happy hour once she gets here.

I asked her about 'working' out of the mall and she said she only does it on her Saturday off to support her daughter in Davao.

(Yes, they all lie, but I haven't seen her hanging around there at other times).

She did say she keeps a low profile, as the mall rats can be quite persistant and competitive.

She's usually back at the hotel with me when the local 6 o'clock news is on out of Manila. Even though I've got a pretty good grip on Tagalog, she translates everything. It's quite unique being mid-stroke and having her stop to explain that the truck that just rolled down a hill and killed seven people was unfortunate. A five minute f*ck turns into a 30 minute episode.

Some of the shit I get up to, I just couldn't tell people back home. They wouldn't believe me anyway.

I'll make sure the TV's off on Friday night as she's doing a 5 k all nighter before I head to Manila for business on Sat. I was planning to 'play the field' on this trip, but when you land a 26 yr old with a hot bod and does the job, you hang onto it. She's a funny little thing too.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3050709]

I think I got lucky with this one. Leaves me alone and works 'till four or five every day and then it's happy hour once she gets here.

....

Some of the shit I get up to, I just couldn't tell people back home. They wouldn't believe me anyway.

I'll make sure the TV's off on Friday night as she's doing a 5 k all nighter before I head to Manila for business on Sat. I was planning to 'play the field' on this trip, but when you land a 26 yr old with a hot bod and does the job, you hang onto it. She's a funny little thing too.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.[/QUOTE]That's THE BEST arrangement. Girlie fucks you senseless at night then leaves you to your own devices during the day. No need to entertain her. No need to feed her. No doubling costs for dive days, tours, lunches etc. Even grab the odd infill if the urge arises.

That never works. I've tried telling some of my more worldly friends about what happens living and holidaying in Asia. Even just the tamer events and NOONE and I mean NOONE believes me. They actually look at me wierd and accuse me of being full of shyte. I've given up even trying now. I just let them enjoy their boring lives.

Nothing wrong with locking into someone who is pressing all the right buttons. It's easy to quickly have them trained on what you like and, as we have often said, attitude is 99% of the battle.

Hunting for a new notch in the bedpost every night can be fun but it gets old after a while.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3050737]That's THE BEST arrangement. Girlie fucks you senseless at night then leaves you to your own devices during the day. No need to entertain her. No need to feed her. No doubling costs for dive days, tours, lunches etc. Even grab the odd infill if the urge arises.[/QUOTE]She's just about worn me out though G.

But yes, it's been a great arrangement.

"Sir Phil" has been very well catered for.

I've got a Manila FL contact lined up for the weekend when I'm there for business.

I'll be back in Cebu next week.

Thinking of heading up to Bantayan Island to have a breather.

It will be interesting to know if Pina works up there.

(I was going to shout another hot Manila FL a paid trip up there for the typical GF trip, but obviously she's only in it for the money, and now, the thought of spending 24 hrs a day with her, cancels that out.).

As for now, the cyclone has been downgraded.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3050862]

Thinking of heading up to Bantayan Island to have a breather.

It will be interesting to know if Pina works up there.

(I was going to shout another hot Manila FL a paid trip up there for the typical GF trip, but obviously she's only in it for the money, and now, the thought of spending 24 hrs a day with her, cancels that out.).

As for now, the cyclone has been downgraded.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Let us know how Bantayan Island goes. Heard good things but never been there myself.

G.

I'm back in Cebu- - about a month now- Taking care of Business & looking for the next Miss Ex- Don.
Now I'm 85 years old with negative social skills so I'm not beating them away like some of you chipper 60 year olds.
To get what slim pickens I get I literally spend all day on my cellphone, Date in Asia, Tinder, Filipina Cupid Badoo, etc.
Well, it's not like I got anything better to do.
Send taxi money (4 or 5 times- Old Don never learns) - no show. One sends a request for further funds for ointment to treat a huge boil on her ass- with photos.
Anyways I've been coming here for- 27?. Years- got nice places to crash in Mactan, & by the ocean in camotes. Got folks to shop for me & cook, air-con, folks to drive me in my collection of old Suzuki multicabs, which are like me rusting away in this tropical Sh. E. Say what you like about Trump- he called that one Out Loud. Anyhow I'm not going to get political. I'm more a student of history- Most Romans knew they were in trouble when. Was it Caligula? Appointed his horse to the Senate. Almost there.
Whatever- iGot to check my phone & facebook & DIA &. Etc.

Arrived in Cebu after a very long boat ride, then even a longer one on the bus, then taxi, the only thing missing is camelback riding, an maybe dog pulled sled.

I had some business to take care of in Cebu, on my way to sin city (AC), and I didn't know if will take 1 or 2 days to solve it, so I didn't bought my plane ticket yet, and that was a good thing because it took 2 days to solve it, and later other stuff came up, and the AC trip was not necessary no more.

Booked a hotel room at ABC, jumped in the shower, what a beautiful thing is this invention called hot water, I didn't experience it for 2 months now, then I strolled up the street to the first massage place, to recover after the strenuous ride back to civilization, massage was 1200/ HR, most customers were young filipino, so I figured out that for that price, and that type of clientele it has to be more than just a massage place, so I asked directly what's included, and the receptionist said that everything is and details have to be arranged with the girl. There were like 5 customers with hard dicks in the cue, waiting to be serviced next, I don't like that kind of setup, I prefer to believe the eternal lie that I'm the first one for the day, if you don't know, you don't really know.

So I walked out telling the receptionist that I'll be back later, I don't even know how the girls look like or how many.

The next place was a normal place with scrubbing, ventusas, aromatherapy, etc. One was Sandia and the other one Chuva, I don't remember which was which. Here the price was 400/ HR, I asked if there is home / hotel massage available. Yes sir 800/ HR the receptionist answered, I gave her 1 k, and told her to keep the change, she was all smiles very surprised, and I asked her to let me chose the masseuse, she took me behind the reception to the break room where 3 girls were playing with the phones, all 3 were good looking, I picked the one that smiled back to me and we headed to the hotel, in the elevator I grabbed her ass telling her that is the most beautiful that I seen in the PH, and asked her if all the girls on this side of the planet look like that. I don't know what she replied, but the fact that she wasn't offended by my touch told me that I was on the right track.

Once in the room, I stripped nacked and asked how to lay down and other small talk, to keep her mind busy, while she was explaining I asked why is she not taking her clothes off, she said that it was not allowed, I don't do that, and all that, I told her that that's the proper way of doing it, and nobody knows anyway, and who knows is thinking that we're doing just that regardless of us doing it or not, all this while unbuttoning her with my face close to hers, then I took her arms and lifted them up, she didn't know what the hell I was doing, then with a swift move I pulled up her uniform top, that came off together with her bra, revealing a beautiful pair of medium sized tits, more than I was expecting. She quickly covered her breasts with her hands, and while she was still stunned, like deer in the flash lights, I sat on the bed in front of her and pulled her pants off with my thumbs catching her panties on the way down, and there she was in front of me nacked with her pants / panties by her ankles, a beautiful sight. I pulled her closer with her nipples at my eye level, then started sucking on them, she fighted it a bit, but was the super easy excitable type and lost her mind soon, put her on the bed, pulled her pants / panties off completely with a bit of effort, because the pants had elastic at the lower end of leg, but I managed to get them off in a clump of pants / panties / socks.

I went straight for the pussy as I always do, the unwashed or I should say not freshly washed pussy is the best sign that everything is well down there, and she doesn't hide any problems behind a freshly performed douche, after a kiss on the clit and a quick whiff test that made her tremble, I started kissing her, she was incredibly easy to be excited out of her mind.

She went quick to the bathroom, took a minute shower then came back and wanted to massage me, as always like an idiot I had no patience, and started doing her, she was making so much noise that the neighbor was banging in the wall.

She stayed for almost 2 hours, I gave her 2 k, she thought that was the money for the massage also, and looked pleased and happy with that, when I told her that is all hers because I paid for the massage already she was in the 9th heaven.

Got her phone nr, and made arrangements to see her next day before work again.

Afternoon I called the superexcitable masseuse, but no answer, text, no answer.

I was talking to few online, not the obvious hookers, but nothing materialized yet.

The hotel was full of OJTs, and I mean a lot of them, everywhere in the rooms, at the reception, in the hidden rooms behind the scenes, all skinny, tiny, good looking. On my floor there were like 4 or 5 of them continuously washing the hallway, I was afraid they will make their way thru the tiles to the floor bellow, little drones that once started and put to the task have no clue when to stop. When I left the room I asked them to change the towels and give me some water only, no cleaning needed, of course even that there were a thousand of them wandering aimlessly around, I got no towels and no water. Later in the afternoon there was only one left working on the escape to the floor below thru moping, I told her that I need the water, and if she can give it to me it will be perfect. Half hour later nothing, and I was really thirsty, got out looked around, nobody. My room was by the fire escape stairs, and earlier I saw that there was the base camp for the OJTs. I opened the door to look for someone, and there was the little drone sleeping on some cardboard boxes, I wouldn't bother her, but before I saw her, I yelled 'Hello,! Anybody here? So she jumped up ashamed and started to apologize, I told her not to worry about me, and that I just need water, again she said let me check that for you sir and I went back to the room, nothing happened, I forgot about the water, I was browsing thru the famous Cebu online companionship offerings, and there was knocking at my door, I opened summarily clothed, only in shorts, hiding behind the door, only my head showing, and there was the little drone with 2 bottles of water in her hands: "here is your water sir!" I said ok, and when opened the door more and I was ready to grab the bottles, she interpreted the gesture as I was letting her in with the water and she marched all the way to the fridge and put them in. She was looking at my "beautiful" body while trying to hide the aim walking back to the door that closed on its own, while she was opening it, I said wait, wait, she let the door go and turned around, I grot 50 p from my pants and handed it to her, she was confused, and I explained that it's a tip for her, after a bit of refusal she took it.

Hotel workers don't shit where they eat, didn't even cross my mind to try anything on the drones, knowing that it is a nono. But now I found myself with one in my room, an OJT not really an employee, kind of too friendly, maybe because I caught her with the pants down (figuratively) sleeping on the job. So now my mind shifted to the only worry that I had, her being maybe to young, so I asked and she said 19, ok one less thing to worry about, started asking and talking all kind of stuff to make her more comfortable, and forget that she wasn't supposed to be in the room with me with the door closed.

She told me that she has to work in various positions for 5 months without pay to complete the course.

I offered to help her make some money, asked how, I said do a massage, she said no and jumped to the door, same original PH phrase: "it's not alowwed", I said being in the room with me with the door closed is also not allowed, but here we are, now she was disoriented. Grabbed her by the shoulders and looked in her eyes, and told her that we can do other things also, she can make some money, and it will not take long. Like what? She asked, I told her we can fuck, she said no, and grabbed the door handle again, then I said: you can suck my dick.

"what is that?

Blow job,

"I don't understand" , I showed her by the universal sign of the dick in the mouth gesture, "no I cannot do that".

Why?

"I don't like it".

Did you do it before?

"No".

Then how do you know that you don't like it?

"I just know".

By now I was on familiar territory with her forgetting already about the management and discussing about the business already.

This is a known problem in the PH if they don't know about something, they simply say that they don't like it, I guess not to appear stupid.

To make the story short, I ended up teaching her how to do BJ, clothes on, not very good, and not to the end, but enthusiastic, and she seemed to enjoy it.

I stopped her, because she kept forgetting about the "no teeth" rule, also thinking that soon I'm going to get the yesterday masseuse again, and I liked that one a lot, her screams and her face I guess.

I put 1 k in her pocket she said thank you, and asked me to look on the hallway before exiting, to make sure the coast is clear. I asked if she's not worry about the cameras, but she said that they (OJTs) know where and what, and no problem, so she left with the promise to continue the lessons next day.

Later I looked at the camera's positions, and there was one close to my door but aimed at the fire stairs exit, and another one at the other end of the hallway, so far that was not possible to see clearly my end of the long hallway, maybe 200 ft away, and with a huge window at the my end creating a strong background light in the image which is the worst nightmare for cctv installers.

After she left I texted the masseuse again, but no reply. Waited until 8 pm when she was starting her shift and I called the salon to send her, the receptionist recognized me over the phone, and said that she's not available, probably already booked I thought, but she can send me another one very good looking if I want, I asked when J* will be available, but she replied that she's not sure, so I said send the replacement, and I make sure that I'll send you a good tip with the girl when she returns.

As usual, and I should have known, because every time is the same: what in PH it is considered beautiful, is ugly for us and vice versa, it happends everytime a bike or trike driver promises to bring you a real beauty to bang. The new girl was chubby, and of course with a chubby face, and also an attitude, no fucking, that's reserved for the BF only HJ or BJ, with only the tits visible. I chose the third option that wasn't on the menu: massage. It was good, given her size, but extremely oily, performed topless, and with an attempted HJ towards the end. I asked her about her colleague, and she said that she didn't come to work, so I figured out that that's what "not available" mean, me, I was thinking that she was booked already. Gave her 1 k for the shop and receptionist, and 500 tip and felt asleep.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3050872]Let us know how Bantayan Island goes. Heard good things but never been there myself.G.[/QUOTE]Will do G. Only arrived this afternoon. Been here before just to relax and wasn't really on the hunt back then a few years ago. Put it this way, Pina's not exactly pinging at the moment with girls asking me to message them on Whatsapp, unlike Cebu city.

_Phil.

There is a restaurant close to the hotel, I was spending lots of time there watching the street, browsing the online offerings, and chatting with the friendly waitresses, nothing special. While walking to the hotel, I saw my waitress stretching out, holding to the edge of an oversized chair, WTF, how come that I didn't see it before, right in front of my eyes, the best body I seen in a long time, petite but with long legs, and a front to back butt curvature that you rarely see, all hidden by the baggy uniform and only revealed by the chair stretching exercises that I just witnessed.

All this was happening while I had other activities described in the other reports, like a side job.

To spend more time in the restaurant, I started to drink a lot of coffees, so I switched to decaf to avoid excess caffeine intake, I started talking to her, at first she was shy and kept distance, but good tips, and simple jokes made her more approachable, as I suspected by her skin dark complexity she was from Mindanao, no kids no husband, 24 yo but looked like 16, maybe this is why I didn't paid attention to her in the first place. Everyday towards the end of the shift I saw her stretching, and walking kind of funny, she was wearing "ballerina shoes" I don't really know what they are called, but they have no heels and look like the ones the ballerina wear. They all were wearing the same shoes, except the manager lady (also fuckable) she had shoes with the same shape and color, but with a bit of a heel. I know from my own experience that when I stand up all day long bare footed around the house my feet hurt like crazy at the end of the day, and when I wear my shoes that are normal with a small heel, I have no problem. So armed with this knowledge, after we got to talk more, I asked if that was the case, at first she denied having any pain, than later she confessed that it has to be that kind of shoes, and that's all she can afford. I offered to take her out and buy her a pair of good American work shoes that fit the requirement of the job uniform. She categorically refused. She was working second shift, and 2 days later to my surprise I found her in the restaurant in the morning, she was walking like on eggshells, I guess there was not enough recovery time in between the evening shift and the early start in the morning, the restaurant is open from 7 am to 9 pm, but as she told me later the workers come and go one hour before and after, plus the trip to and from home. I felt really bad for her, and of course I also wanted to fuck her, no doubt about it, and she was aware of it without me saying it. After the morning rush dissipated, she had some time to chat with me, and I told her that I will buy her shoes, she wants it or not, and they may not fit, so is much better to accept my offer, no strings attached. After a bit more of convincing work she agreed to do it after work.

I took her to the mall and went to Payless Shoe Source, made in China, but after the American specs, anyway better than anything they sell in the night market. The kind of shoe she needed was priced 1000 to 2000 pesos, her size was only available in the lower end models, around 1300, she was so happy, I can't described, she said they were the best shoes she ever had. Was getting late, and I offered to take her to dinner, but she said that cannot do even if it was right there in the mall, but promised to do it next day. That evening I ended up fucking another coffee shop girl, I'll write about separately.

The next day got my morning coffee, and of course kept the appearances in place, avoided too much contact, than later waited for her to go to dinner with me.

To my surprise she said lets order grab, and go into your hotel room, and that's what we did, except that we fucked first, then we ordered (Jolibee of course). Small frame, but killer body, no tits, only what's called "mosquito bites" but I didn't really care. She was kind of ashamed of her tits, and wanted mostly doggy style, or reverse cowgirl, lots of facial expressions, but not much noise, extremely tight pussy, no BJ skills, but fun to watch because she was constantly smiling.

She left afterwards, and told me that next day she will be late shift again, but she can sleep in my room afterwards.

That didn't happened because of the sisters, about which I'll also write a separate report.

So, with a bit of persuation, while doing other "jobs" and a pair of cheap shoes I got to fuck this nice girl. Wild, never did it before, shoe fucking...

I would have posted earlier, but found myself at City Garden in Manila over the weekend and their wifi blocks ISG for possibly being a porn site.

Anyway, as mentioned previously, I'd lined up a Friday 5 k all-nighter with my little 26 yr old and she put on a show before I had a Saturday business meeting with a supplier in Manila. I'd checked into City Garden and had a previous older FL sorted for the two nights, but she decided make it a sleep-over both nights. Great sex and at an agreed 3 k per day. But nothing compared to the week I'd had prior in Cebu.

Fortunately on Monday morning she said she had to head back to Cavite early and leave me alone. She asked, "You give me ten thousand?" whilst giving it a rub.

I thought, "I've just been paying 3 k in Cebu for an absolute stunner".

I slipped her the agreed 3 k and she was on her way.

Wouldn't you know it, within half an hour of leaving the hotel, Dad had died and she needed another 3 k to get back to Bicol to see the family. I thought, "How the fuck's she getting there?" if she needs 6 k all-up for the fare. Limo?

"I send my family the 3 k you first give for his medicine Sir".

Anyway, after ignoring the 17 Whatsapp messages and demands throughout the day I arrived back in Cebu late yesterday afternoon, and was surprised to get another message from J.

"I see you again tonight Sir. ".

I was staying by the airport for the night at the Waterfront and mentioned it might be out of her way.

"No problem Sir. ".

Now I know a lot of you will be surprized, but cheap charlie Phil actually dished out 7 k last night and paid for her meal. She'd been the perfect find for over a week's action. Amazing little body, great conversation, well educated and she had a brilliant sense of humour. Had absolutely no problem staying the night once we'd built up a bit of trust (according to her).

"If only I was twenty years younger, she'd be a keeper" I thought.

Fortunately I'm a realist and was just greatful I'd met the complete package on this trip. And obviously one to keep on the contact list.

Anyway, as I made my way to the north bus station this morning to commence a trip to Bantayan Island, we shared a taxi and I dropped her off at her work on the way.

And sorry guys, despite the repeated requests for her contact details, they won't be forthcoming as I honestly don't know who I'm putting her in touch with.

So far Cebu has delivered. Manila too, to an extent. I've gone one night without it and I'd say there might be a few more non-eventful evenings up here in the sleepy north of Bantayan.

I'll keep you posted_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3051615]............ I've gone one night without it and I'd say there might be a few more non-eventful evenings up here in the sleepy north of Bantayan.

I'll keep you posted_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Plan accordingly as you may be stranded on the island for few extra days if the ferries are cancelled out of the blue even if the sea is calm.

The coffee shack.

There are a few food courts on Ramos, carinderia style, I found one stand that was selling Japanese street food, out of curiosity I gave it a try, I was disappointed, probably didn't have nothing to do with Japan, not that I'm a specialist, but I'm pretty sure I tasted the same disgusting fried mushy balls in Bacolod next to the central park few years ago, the reason I remember it is because I burned my mouth pretty bad with them, and wasn't even worth it. Anyway, while waiting for the Japanese specialties to be ready the girl in the coffee shack next to it kept engaging in conversation with me, I was polite to her, but I wasn't interested too much because of her appearance, ugly glasses, and semi curly hair allover the place. After having already I don't know how many coffees at the restaurant while pursuing the ballerina shoe waitress, her sales pitch for the caffeinated chemical concoctions that she was mixing in the improvised shack were not tempting at all. I guess not too many customers at 11 pm, so she was starting to wrap it up for the night, when she got out from behind the lab like equipment, and I saw her body, I became suddenly interested in ingesting more caffeine, even in the form of the sugary chemical mixes that she was selling. I just asked a few dumb questions, and I reignited her verbal diarrhea. Actually now that I was seeing the whole package, the glasses, and the allover the place hair were complimenting her, giving her a nerdy mad scientist look, probably because of all the bottles with colored liquids surrounding her, that looked more like chemistry lab than a coffee stand. She was struggling with a crate, and I offered to help her carry it to her motorbike somewhere in the back. We had to descend on some metal stairs to the street where she was parked in the back, and I had to carry the crate by myself, it was fucking heavy, I don't know how she would have done it by herself. While I was holding it for her to secure it on the back of the motorbike we kind of rubbed against eachother a dozen times, all this while talking. She told me that she was looking for a foreign BF to support her while in school, because the coffee mixers business wasn't doing very well. Basically she was hitting on me, and since I'm not Brad Pitt, I knew that it was not for my beautiful appearance. Told her that the BF thing will not work out for us, but I can bring some instant relief to her financial struggle, the reply was instant: "how much?

I said 2 k, and after a moment of silence while she was probably doing some complicated calculation in her head she said yes, let's go. During our initial conversation I already told her that I was staying at ABC, around the corner, so she grabbed my hand and pulled me towards the dark back street, I was thinking that we're going to fuck in some dark corner or maybe her house is there, or maybe all that unnatural talk from the beginning was a setup to get me to this point on the back dark alley, and robbed. Where we're going? "this way!" She was allover the place, but later I realized that all that weird acting was from the daily overdose of artificial caffeine and sugar syrup that she was ingesting out of boredom in her shack while waiting for customers. She wasn't taking me to get robbed or fucked in a dark spot, but to the back of my hotel, just around the corner.

It was a caffeine induced fuck on the oily bed sheets, that was extremely satisfying after an earlier half BJ and then later an attempted HJ after a massage with a gallon of oil, I gave her 2 k, told her to stay if she wants, but she reminded me about the crate on the motorbike and she left with the promise to visit her next day and have a sugary caffeinated chemically enhanced drink. I never did because I ran out of time, and I really wanted to, not only for the sex, she had a nice body, 20 some yo, jittery sex moves, very good BJ, but I was genuinely interested in the mixology business, prices, suppliers, equipment, trends, etc because my GF thinks about opening a few of those on our Island and maybe one of the neighboring ones. With all that in mind I went to sleep in the oil soaked bed sheets, the earlier chubby masseuse really did a number on the bed, I don't know where all the oil came from, because she only carried some supplies in her pockets.

I'd appreciate some comment and suggestions on an upcoming March-April 4 week visit to Cebu, possibly taking on Bohol for 5 or 6 nights, more for relaxing than mongering, but if the opportunity arises.

So far got hotels booked first 5 nights in Cebu City, Easter for 6 nights in Moalboal and the night before flying out in Lapu Lapu, for easy airport acccess. Hopefully pick up some action in these places.

Thinking of hitting Bohol, specifically Panglao (ferry to Tagbilaran then bus or similar down to somewhere on south coast of Panglao) for 5 or 6 nights, possibly straight after Cebu City at start.

I'd like the 2 or 3 day buffer between leaving Bohol and back on Cebu island to get to Moalboal in case of ferry problems. (Not best with open sea ferry travel but I read elsewhere that there's a fast crossing from Cebu Peir to Tagbilaran...?)

Not sure where else to hit after Moalboal for 8 days, before heading to Lapu, and the 3 (or 2) days after returning from Bohol (if I decide to go) on the way to Moalboal.

I see small towns like Danao, Toledo (I've made a PL contact here, which could be fruitful) and so on. Also see Bogo City far north but that looks like I'd have to back track down the coast.

input welcome!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3051751]I'd appreciate some comment and suggestions on an upcoming March-April 4 week visit to Cebu, possibly taking on Bohol for 5 or 6 nights, more for relaxing than mongering, but if the opportunity arises.

So far got hotels booked first 5 nights in Cebu City, Easter for 6 nights in Moalboal and the night before flying out in Lapu Lapu, for easy airport acccess. Hopefully pick up some action in these places.

Thinking of hitting Bohol, specifically Panglao (ferry to Tagbilaran then bus or similar down to somewhere on south coast of Panglao) for 5 or 6 nights, possibly straight after Cebu City at start.

I'd like the 2 or 3 day buffer between leaving Bohol and back on Cebu island to get to Moalboal in case of ferry problems. (Not best with open sea ferry travel but I read elsewhere that there's a fast crossing from Cebu Peir to Tagbilaran...?)

Not sure where else to hit after Moalboal for 8 days, before heading to Lapu, and the 3 (or 2) days after returning from Bohol (if I decide to go) on the way to Moalboal.

I see small towns like Danao, Toledo (I've made a PL contact here, which could be fruitful) and so on. Also see Bogo City far north but that looks like I'd have to back track down the coast.

input welcome!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]All that I can say is that your timing is wrong. Around Easter you may have the whole place to yourself, or the opposite, you may not find a place to sleep, wherever you may be. Good luck!

While making some Xerox copies on a side street next to the hotel I had to wait for the girl to finish the job she had ahead of me, I went next door (half a door away) to an obscure carinderia to sit down while waiting, the cashier, was a gorgeous young girl, maybe 20 yo, I ried to engage, but she was so shy that she was covering her face with her hands, an giggling while answering back, the waitres also around 20 yo not as cute like the cashier, but very fuckable kept pulling her hands of her face so I can see her, until she ran away in the back room. The waitress said that she's only that shy because I'm a foreigner. I asked at what time they close the place, she said 8 but also they have to clean afterwards. I told her that I would like to see both after work if they want too, she said yes, so I pointed to the stairs in front of the ABC hotel across Ramon in the distance, and I said that I'll be there at 9 pm, don't be late, nothing else was discussed, dinner, drinks, fucking, etc. The girl yelled that my photocopies were ready, I took them and left, took care of business, then called the massage girl, texted, nothing. Got back to the hotel looked for the cute OTJ, none of them to be seen anywhere. They were there before I left because I gave them 100 p and asked them to change my bed, and I saw that they did it. I think they leave around 5 pm, I don't know what the one that I had in my room previously was doing there late, and I didn't seen her since, to continue where we left.

Anyway the evening was all planed with failsafes in place: masseuse, carinderia girl, shoe girl, , the caffeine addict. Texted than called the masseuse nothing, GF video called, showed her around the room, "just to see how the hotel room look like", laid on my back while talking to her, and fell asleep. I woke up at 9. 15 and ran downstairs for the carinderia girl, I didn't exchanged no contact info with any of the girls, was all based on timing, so I didn't know if she came and left, or she was on Filipina time, but I decided to hang around and intercept the shoe girl if the carinderia one was not coming or was there and left. The stairs were to the side street to be out of the sight of the shoe girl, but I wasn't sure if she will leave that way or thru the front, so I was patrolling up and down the side street. 3 extremely hookery looking ugly girls came to me offering their services, which I refused, dressed up in glitzy red, or golden skimpy dresses and with make up that would make any drag queen jealous. I was thinking to walk to the carinderia across Ramos, but I could see from where I was that the rollup door was closed.

I heard laughter and voices coming from down the street, and there were the carinderia girls, changed in street clothes lipstick on and all that, just coming from the opposite direction that the one I was expecting, I guess their housing must be close by behind the hotel somewhere. Was dark, and when they got closer, I saw that there was the waitress but with a different girl, not the shy one, she said: I brought my sister with me! Young but chubby, now I was confused, but I fucked sisters before, so when they asked if I had dinner already and I saw where this was going I cut it short, and said, yes I did, let me show you my hotel room, no hesitation they were expecting the evening to end there, I just cut it shorter. Once in the room I got naked first in the first 10 seconds, so that we don't waste time, then I helped them one here one there to strip naked. Asked them if they were real sisters or just call themselves that as many do, real! And what we can do together, where are the limits, if any? Everything but they won't touch eachother, great, I was expecting one by one with the one in the cue waiting in the bathroom.

It was a good partial 3 some given the fact that I was dealing with real sisters fucking one after another, not on top of eachother, sequential BJ, the only all together part was with both on top of me. The sister was older 28, but the younger one was in charge, they were not shy and not holding back on noises, on the contrary it seemed like they always wanted to do it but didn't had the chance yet. They were laughing like crazy about the younger's one pussy's making fart noises from time to time. The older one wanted to be face fucked, and I did it on the edge of the bed, and finished like that in her mouth, after 2 hours, paid 2 k each and they left happy. I was happy too. Not a complete 3 some, but good enough, no hesitation on pussy to moth or pussy exchange, just nothing between the two of them.

Since I gave up on the AC trip, I decided to go back home in the morning, having the batteries recharged (not fully, but enough for the moment) and not having to lie to the GF that I have to go to AC to solve the problems was a plus.

Was too late for the she girl, or the caffeine addict, so I called the massage place to get the masseuse, which somehow was on the top of my list, even before the shoe girl with the killer body curvature, maybe because of the screams, or maybe because I couldn't get her back. The receptionist said again that she's not available but she can send another one, I wanted to clarify, and I inquired further, so I found out that after I fucked her she never went back to work the next days, and they don't know why. I don't think that I fucked her so hard, even that she was screaming like crazy when coming that she needed so many days to recover, or that the 2 k I gave her were enough to stay home for a while.

Next time when in Cebu I'll try to find out about her whereabouts. , hers is the only phone nr I collected in this trip.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3051665]Plan accordingly as you may be stranded on the island for few extra days if the ferries are cancelled out of the blue even if the sea is calm.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ugly,

Have done and been here before.

Yes, you never know what to expect here.

And there's never any point trying to gain an answer if things turn to shit.

"Yes Sir. Problem fixed soon Sir".

I just go with the flow.

And turn to Dr. Tanduay during difficult times.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3051751]I'd appreciate some comment and suggestions on an upcoming March-April 4 week visit to Cebu, possibly taking on Bohol for 5 or 6 nights, more for relaxing than mongering, but if the opportunity arises.

So far got hotels booked first 5 nights in Cebu City, Easter for 6 nights in Moalboal and the night before flying out in Lapu Lapu, for easy airport acccess. Hopefully pick up some action in these places.

Thinking of hitting Bohol, specifically Panglao (ferry to Tagbilaran then bus or similar down to somewhere on south coast of Panglao) for 5 or 6 nights, possibly straight after Cebu City at start.

I'd like the 2 or 3 day buffer between leaving Bohol and back on Cebu island to get to Moalboal in case of ferry problems. (Not best with open sea ferry travel but I read elsewhere that there's a fast crossing from Cebu Peir to Tagbilaran...?)

Not sure where else to hit after Moalboal for 8 days, before heading to Lapu, and the 3 (or 2) days after returning from Bohol (if I decide to go) on the way to Moalboal.

I see small towns like Danao, Toledo (I've made a PL contact here, which could be fruitful) and so on. Also see Bogo City far north but that looks like I'd have to back track down the coast.

input welcome!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3051756]All that I can say is that your timing is wrong. Around Easter you may have the whole place to yourself, or the opposite, you may not find a place to sleep, wherever you may be. Good luck![/QUOTE]As Ugly mentioned Mary, Easter can be an indifferent time to travel. This is a very religious country that forgives girls to nail a dayuhan, or foreigner, after they've been to church on Sunday and want to earn a bit of cash afterwards via any means of penetration.

I've done Panglao (White Beach) quite a few years back and it was predominately a dive location for European couples. A nice spot, but not a lot of action. I didn't try PL back then, so you may be ok.

As for Moalboal, I had no luck at all. It's not really your typical mongering spot, and although it's 'talked up' to be a great place to watch the sardines run, that's just about it. There's not really any beach to speak of from what I saw not long ago. A good place to sit back and read a book though.

There's quite a bit of action on PL from girls at Danao and similar places heading north, but your accomodation choices won't be 5 star, or even 2 star.

I'm on Bantayan Island now taking a break from all the action of the past week or so in Cebu City. It's a great spot, but there's no action here.

It looks like you have plenty of time to revise your plans, but I'd look to older posts regarding Easter in the Phils, and Holy Week.

You'll still have a good time if you plan things right.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3051802]As Ugly mentioned Mary, Easter can be an indifferent time to travel. This is a very religious country that forgives girls to nail a dayuhan, or foreigner, after they've been to church on Sunday and want to earn a bit of cash afterwards via any means of penetration.

I've done Panglao (White Beach) quite a few years back and it was predominately a dive location for European couples. A nice spot, but not a lot of action. I didn't try PL back then, so you may be ok.

As for Moalboal, I had no luck at all. It's not really your typical mongering spot, and although it's 'talked up' to be a great place to watch the sardines run, that's just about it. There's not really any beach to speak of from what I saw not long ago. A good place to sit back and read a book though.

There's quite a bit of action on PL from girls at Danao and similar places heading north, but your accomodation choices won't be 5 star, or even 2 star.

I'm on Bantayan Island now taking a break from all the action of the past week or so in Cebu City. It's a great spot, but there's no action here.

It looks like you have plenty of time to revise your plans, but I'd look to older posts regarding Easter in the Phils, and Holy Week.

You'll still have a good time if you plan things right.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Mary, Phil is correct that Pinas do normally enjoy Sunday afternoon sessions of post Mass fucking. It's convenient for them to tell everyone that they are going to church while they are infact swallowing sausage. The trouble with Easter is that the whole Holy Week is full of family gatherings and celebrations so they won't be able to escape alone and they will be busy the whole time. Sadly, Holy Week is the worst time to monger in the Philippines.

Moalboal is ok for a weekend but it's BYOG and you will be bored any longer than that unless you are an avid scuba diver. Girls typically accompany guys from Cebu City. There are a couple of girls online but not many and several planets need to align to meet and actually fuck them.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3051756]All that I can say is that your timing is wrong. Around Easter you may have the whole place to yourself, or the opposite, you may not find a place to sleep, wherever you may be. Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3051802]As Ugly mentioned Mary, Easter can be an indifferent time to travel. This is a very religious country that forgives girls to nail a dayuhan, or foreigner, after they've been to church on Sunday and want to earn a bit of cash afterwards via any means of penetration.

I've done Panglao (White Beach) quite a few years back and it was predominately a dive location for European couples. A nice spot, but not a lot of action. I didn't try PL back then, so you may be ok.

As for Moalboal, I had no luck at all. It's not really your typical mongering spot, and although it's 'talked up' to be a great place to watch the sardines run, that's just about it. There's not really any beach to speak of from what I saw not long ago. A good place to sit back and read a book though.

There's quite a bit of action on PL from girls at Danao and similar places heading north, but your accomodation choices won't be 5 star, or even 2 star.

I'm on Bantayan Island now taking a break from all the action of the past week or so in Cebu City. It's a great spot, but there's no action here.

It looks like you have plenty of time to revise your plans, but I'd look to older posts regarding Easter in the Phils, and Holy Week.

You'll still have a good time if you plan things right.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedbacks guys.

Yes, Moalboal, Cebu on arrival and pre-dep are booked hotels. Other places up in the air. Hopefully some Easter post-church horniness will be in evidence! Am less tempted to do longish bus journey up to Bogo. So maybe stick to Danao and somewhere south of Cebu after Moalboal, heading east for a day or two. Carcar or similar. Will see if much action on PL.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3051929]Thanks for the feedbacks guys.

Yes, Moalboal, Cebu on arrival and pre-dep are booked hotels. Other places up in the air. Hopefully some Easter post-church horniness will be in evidence! Am less tempted to do longish bus journey up to Bogo. So maybe stick to Danao and somewhere south of Cebu after Moalboal, heading east for a day or two. Carcar or similar. Will see if much action on PL.[/QUOTE]What's in Bogo?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3051973]What's in Bogo?[/QUOTE]The tenor of you you question suggests not much! LOL. I was considering places to check out and saw its size and position, thinking there might be a bit of action around if the sightseeing options are few. Wiki says 90 K population so it's bigger than a village. But maybe not worth schlepping so far north just for it.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3052089]The tenor of you you question suggests not much! LOL. I was considering places to check out and saw its size and position, thinking there might be a bit of action around if the sightseeing options are few. Wiki says 90 K population so it's bigger than a village. But maybe not worth schlepping so far north just for it.[/QUOTE]The reason I asked is because I may have to go to Bogo soon, and I'm not aware of any mongering going on around there. I was thinking that I missed something, and you may have hidden knowledge about the place.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3051973]What's in Bogo?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3052089]The tenor of you you question suggests not much! LOL. I was considering places to check out and saw its size and position, thinking there might be a bit of action around if the sightseeing options are few. Wiki says 90 K population so it's bigger than a village. But maybe not worth schlepping so far north just for it.[/QUOTE]I'm on Bantayan now, and there's no action at all apart from three older girls on PL looking for someone to care for their children just like they're your own and live happilty ever after. Them I assume.

However, there seems to be a substantial amount of girls on PL in Bogo and all the other towns mainly lining the east coast down to Cebu City. Well heaps have been checking out my PL profile and showing up in notifications.

Although many places are coastal, I can't see a lot of great accomodation options in any of them or things to do apart from bedroom action.

A bit risky to devote a chunk of time in these areas, but there does look to be quite a few looking for some cash to help pay the bills.

Or get their hair done. Or buy a new dress. Etc. Etc.

_Phil.

Well, I've been here now for just on two weeks and decided to count the cash and see how it's all panned out.

All flights and accomodation were paid prior in advance.

I started out with 100 k and have 30 k left in cash as I write this. Haven't used a credit card or debit card once.

I've had action on 9 of the 13 days with three different girls. All have been FL's.

I've had two all nighters at 3 k per night. And two all nighters at 5 k per night. The rest have been 3 k sessions with the minimum being two and half hours, except for a PL rush job on my second day.

My pussy bill has come to approx 31 k.

The remaining 39 k has been spent on food, transport, a few meals for the girls and mainly Tanduay and SML.

The average pussy bill has been about USD $60 or AUD $85 per day of action.

The rest works out to be approx. USD $50 or AUD $75 per day for general and other expenses.

Hope this helps anyone budgeting a trip for the first time and looking to take the FL route in The Phils or Cebu.

Remember, lots of pussy can be cheaper than food, alcohol and transport. Enjoy!

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052103]Well, I've been here now for just on two weeks and decided to count the cash and see how it's all panned out.

All flights and accomodation were paid prior in advance.

I started out with 100 k and have 30 k left in cash as I write this. Haven't used a credit card or debit card once.

I've had action on 9 of the 13 days with three different girls. All have been FL's.

I've had two all nighters at 3 k per night. And two all nighters at 5 k per night. The rest have been 3 k sessions with the minimum being two and half hours, except for a PL rush job on my second day.

My pussy bill has come to approx 31 k.

The remaining 39 k has been spent on food, transport, a few meals for the girls and mainly Tanduay and SML.

The average pussy bill has been about USD $60 or AUD $85 per day of action.

The rest works out to be approx. USD $50 or AUD $75 per day for general and other expenses.

Hope this helps anyone budgeting a trip for the first time and looking to take the FL route in The Phils or Cebu.

Remember, lots of pussy can be cheaper than food, alcohol and transport. Enjoy!

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]When stationary I spend about 50 k a week, traveling is relative to the destinations, my pussy bill is so low, that's not even worth keeping track of it, all my money goes to the effort of maintaining a western lifestyle while living like Robinson Crusoe. Everything costs double than in US.

While I'm moving around I have no problem with the cheap carinderias, but while at home, I do my best not to become a total savage.
Last week while in Cebu city before returning I went shopping at S&R I spent about 30k, and when I got home and put it all in place, was like nothing happened, I just have lots of stevia now.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052093]The reason I asked is because I may have to go to Bogo soon, and I'm not aware of any mongering going on around there. I was thinking that I missed something, and you may have hidden knowledge about the place.[/QUOTE]Bogo, and the region around it, has still not recovered from the earthquake in September. The two-year-old McDonald's has already been demolished and the six month old Jollibee has just been condemned. While the couple of trips I have done since the earthquake have been centred on the hills above Medellin (north of Bogo), it's clear that the whole area is still suffering quite heavily.

I suppose in mongering terms it does mean that there would be a lot of girls and families looking for funds to repair homes and businesses. In terms of other things to do in the area, good luck to you, there's really nothing else going on there.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052103]Well, I've been here now for just on two weeks and decided to count the cash and see how it's all panned out.

All flights and accomodation were paid prior in advance.

I started out with 100 k and have 30 k left in cash as I write this. Haven't used a credit card or debit card once.

I've had action on 9 of the 13 days with three different girls. All have been FL's.

I've had two all nighters at 3 k per night. And two all nighters at 5 k per night. The rest have been 3 k sessions with the minimum being two and half hours, except for a PL rush job on my second day.

My pussy bill has come to approx 31 k.

The remaining 39 k has been spent on food, transport, a few meals for the girls and mainly Tanduay and SML.

The average pussy bill has been about USD $60 or AUD $85 per day of action.

The rest works out to be approx. USD $50 or AUD $75 per day for general and other expenses.

Hope this helps anyone budgeting a trip for the first time and looking to take the FL route in The Phils or Cebu.

Remember, lots of pussy can be cheaper than food, alcohol and transport. Enjoy!

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052104]When stationary I spend about 50 k a week, traveling is relative to the destinations, my pussy bill is so low, that's not even worth keeping track of it, all my money goes to the effort of maintaining a western lifestyle while living like Robinson Crusoe. Everything costs double than in US.

While I'm moving around I have no problem with the cheap carinderias, but while at home, I do my best not to become a total savage.
Last week while in Cebu city before returning I went shopping at S&R I spent about 30k, and when I got home and put it all in place, was like nothing happened, I just have lots of stevia now.[/QUOTE]If I include flights and visas my costs are about P10 k per day for a 58 day stay.

Round trip flights and visas are about $1000.

Provincial hotels are about P1000-1500.

Provincial pussy is P2000 per night with the occasional infill during the day.

I move frequently while in country, typically only staying in one place a few days before going to another town. A bus ride is less than P500 and is actually faster door to door than hub and spoke flights.

Eating is a surprisingly big number. Compared to the rest of Asia, Philippines street food sucks and even foodhalls are for subsistence only. They keep me alive but only just. Meals at western restaurants in SM, Robinsons etc are P2000 per day. Add another P500 for meeting girls at Jollibee etc.

Daily incidentals, diving, tours etc are about P2000.

A blow out night on Burgos before heading home is about P10,000. A big city fuck is P5000.

As Ugly said, fucking non stop is a very minor part of overall costs.

G.

Lately I post, is there, then later it disappears. Just did it one hour ago about Bogo, now is gone, weird!

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052202]Lately I post, is there, then later it disappears. Just did it one hour ago about Bogo, now is gone, weird![/QUOTE]Are you moderated? Its possible that it slipped thru the mod and posted, then later a mod removed it.

Additionally I posted a few weeks ago that I can't see Hot Shane Hot's posts when I am logged in. His posts are simply invisible to me when I am logged in, but I can see them when I am not logged in. He is not in my Ignore List.

Something strange this way comes.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3051751]

I see small towns like Danao, Toledo (I've made a PL contact here, which could be fruitful) and so on. Also see Bogo City far north but that looks like I'd have to back track down the coast.

input welcome!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi Mary,

I did the trip down from Bantayan to Cebu City on Saturday and made some observations for you on the way.

(I had the PL notifications set along the way).

As for Bogo, forget it. It's quite vast, but not a great area and quite a way to travel in the hope of glory.

Actually, travelling down the coast there doesn't look to be too many options. But don't give up on that plan. A bus fare from up top of the island to the city is only 260 p.

Places like Carmen and Catmon and there-abouts are on the coast. However, these places are not particularly pretty and there are limited accommodation options from the look of it. I got a few hits via PL when I was travelling through Catmon.

I'd say your best bet would be Danao. There seems to be some newer retail areas around the port area, and to the south there looked to be a few resorts. Or decent hotels. One, I think the name was Coco Palms and there were a few others. Keep in mind, these were just observations from a bus.

From the top of the island the most hits I got on PL was in Danao.

Once you go further south than that, you're basically hitting Cebu City, where you'll get heaps of hits from girls all around.

I suppose it's just a matter if you want to make the effort of finding something elsewhere. That coast road will be no tourist hot spot. But you never know where or how you'll get lucky.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052610]Hi Mary,

I did the trip down from Bantayan to Cebu City on Saturday and made some observations for you on the way.

(I had the PL notifications set along the way).

As for Bogo, forget it. It's quite vast, but not a great area and quite a way to travel in the hope of glory.

Actually, travelling down the coast there doesn't look to be too many options. But don't give up on that plan. A bus fare from up top of the island to the city is only 260 p.

Places like Carmen and Catmon and there-abouts are on the coast. However, these places are not particularly pretty and there are limited accommodation options from the look of it. I got a few hits via PL when I was travelling through Catmon.

I'd say your best bet would be Danao. There seems to be some newer retail areas around the port area, and to the south there looked to be a few resorts. Or decent hotels. One, I think the name was Coco Palms and there were a few others. Keep in mind, these were just observations from a bus.

From the top of the island the most hits I got on PL was in Danao.

Once you go further south than that, you're basically hitting Cebu City, where you'll get heaps of hits from girls all around.

I suppose it's just a matter if you want to make the effort of finding something elsewhere. That coast road will be no tourist hot spot. But you never know where or how you'll get lucky.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks Phil for the observational notes.

I've been reassessing my trip. After Cebu and then Bohol, I've decided to skip Danao and to take in more of the south after Moalboal, where I'll spend the Easter week, then on to Dumaguete (hope ferry ride is smooth) then back on Cebu up through Oslob, Argao and finally Mactan before flight out. Not too heavily reliant on hobbying but will take it as it comes, or doesn't.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3053315]Thanks Phil for the observational notes.

I've been reassessing my trip. After Cebu and then Bohol, I've decided to skip Danao and to take in more of the south after Moalboal, where I'll spend the Easter week, then on to Dumaguete (hope ferry ride is smooth) then back on Cebu up through Oslob, Argao and finally Mactan before flight out. Not too heavily reliant on hobbying but will take it as it comes, or doesn't.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Not a problem Mary.

Sounds like a better plan and a good tourist route.

Keep PL active on your phone at all times and set it so girls can see your location when you're close to them and you never know your luck.

For 'hobbying' I'd spend a few extra days in Mactan / Lapu Lapu before you depart if you haven't got too much action prior.

You should get hits from girls in Cebu City and Mandaue as well as the local girls.

If they want money up-front for a taxi fare, just say you'll pay the driver when they arrive. Despite the traffic, it might only be 200 p.

I've stayed at the Waterfront across the road from the airport a few times and they're girl friendly. But you'll probably find cheaper options on Mactan, but maybe not so convenient.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3053475]

If they want money up-front for a taxi fare, just say you'll pay the driver when they arrive. Despite the traffic, it might only be 200 p.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Girls can be scared that they will be stuck with the taxi bill if they arrive and the guy is a no show. I find it better to send a Grab to pick them up at my cost.

This also weeds out the scammers. If they start making excuses that sending them transposition money is better than you know it was all BS.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3053497]Girls can be scared that they will be stuck with the taxi bill if they arrive and the guy is a no show. I find it better to send a Grab to pick them up at my cost.

This also weeds out the scammers. If they start making excuses that sending them transposition money is better than you know it was all BS.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Agreed G,

But I've never managed to get that Grab app to work. Even on the Phils phone I carry. And if I do, it says 'no drivers in the area' or similar. Really?

I've just found that if a girl wants to provide a 'Daffy Duck' for 3 k, she'll get there even if she gets a Habal-Habal and then hits you up for a 200 p taxi fare.

I always pay on delivery, in more ways than one.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3053497]Girls can be scared that they will be stuck with the taxi bill if they arrive and the guy is a no show. I find it better to send a Grab to pick them up at my cost.

This also weeds out the scammers. If they start making excuses that sending them transposition money is better than you know it was all BS.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Although it is better to pay when she arrives, there is a real risk to the girl that the guy won't actually be there. Then she is really in trouble because she has no money and owes the taxi driver money. Does this happen? Yes, there are guys out of the country who like to play games with the girls. I know that in Mexico City, it is common practice now for the girls to ask for the transport money upfront due to no shows by the guys and the girls being stuck with the taxi fare.

So, it is understandable that the girl would ask for the transport upfront but as mentioned, you can arrange for Grab or moto transport on your cellphone for her.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3053844]Agreed G,

But I've never managed to get that Grab app to work. Even on the Phils phone I carry. And if I do, it says 'no drivers in the area' or similar. Really?

I've just found that if a girl wants to provide a 'Daffy Duck' for 3 k, she'll get there even if she gets a Habal-Habal and then hits you up for a 200 p taxi fare.

I always pay on delivery, in more ways than one.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Phil,

I'd be lost without Grab. There was a time that they were trying to promote their own financial services so wouldn't link third party cards but that's been fixed now. Mine is paid in local currency and charged against my Wise Card. It's worked without problems in numerous countries in the past year, no problems.

If you have your system that works, all power to you but there is no way I'm going back to thieving pricks at airports, never having the right amount of cash on me or trying to explain a destination in some obscure dialect. Not to mention booking to collect a third parts as mentioned before.

To be fair, I did come across 'no cars available' once but that was when it was pissing with rain, waaaay out in the boonies at a hourly hire flop house on the edge of Butuan. Never had a problem in town.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3053902]Phil,

I'd be lost without Grab. There was a time that they were trying to promote their own financial services so wouldn't link third party cards but that's been fixed now. Mine is paid in local currency and charged against my Wise Card. It's worked without problems in numerous countries in the past year, no problems.

If you have your system that works, all power to you but there is no way I'm going back to thieving pricks at airports, never having the right amount of cash on me or trying to explain a destination in some obscure dialect. Not to mention booking to collect a third parts as mentioned before.

To be fair, I did come across 'no cars available' once but that was when it was pissing with rain, waaaay out in the boonies at a hourly hire flop house on the edge of Butuan. Never had a problem in town.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Now there is an app that's becoming more popular in the PH, called maxim, some important destination cannot be found on grab, like s&r.

While in TH I had tons of grab rides cancelled by the driver after waiting already for 10-15 minutes, at some point it became ridiculous.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3053914]Now there is an app that's becoming more popular in the PH, called maxim, some important destination cannot be found on grab, like s&r.

While in TH I had tons of grab rides cancelled by the driver after waiting already for 10-15 minutes, at some point it became ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Vaid point. Some countries do have similar apps that are more popular locally. Gojek, Bolt etc.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3053902]Phil,

I'd be lost without Grab. There was a time that they were trying to promote their own financial services so wouldn't link third party cards but that's been fixed now. Mine is paid in local currency and charged against my Wise Card. It's worked without problems in numerous countries in the past year, no problems.[/QUOTE]Thanks G,

I'll give it another crack next time around.

My Phils only phone hasn't been happy. So that might be the issue.

I must admit I'm pretty useless with phones and all the apps you have to have these days. I generally do everything on a laptop if I can. On Pina I can use both.

I suppose I'm just at the stage of not wanting to learn how to use yet another piece of new technology.

I only just re-trained how to 'do it' with a condom last week. And that was an effort.

_Phil.

Hello, first time here coming from the USA site. Planning on going to Cebu for fun in August. Got 2 questions:

1. For a first timer in CEBU is there a quick FAQ to give me the lay of the land? Do's and Don'ts, where to find girls? Etc. Kind of like a quick guide for a first timer.

2. When you post prices like 400. Is that in Philippine peso? Or in USD?

Sorry for the noob questions. I've mongered all over the US. I just never mongered Internationally.

[QUOTE=Magnus808;3056389]Hello, first time here coming from the USA site. Planning on going to Cebu for fun in August. Got 2 questions:

1. For a first timer in CEBU is there a quick FAQ to give me the lay of the land? Do's and Don'ts, where to find girls? Etc. Kind of like a quick guide for a first timer.

2. When you post prices like 400. Is that in Philippine peso? Or in USD?

Sorry for the noob questions. I've mongered all over the US. I just never mongered Internationally.[/QUOTE]How old are you? 20/30 and there are some great clubs in Cybu and you will be picking up hotties left, right and centre. 40/50+ and Cebu is rightfully regarded as the online capital of the Philippines. It is full of girls who bussed in to the big city in search of Jobs or Education. Many are away from nosey and gossiping friends and family for the first time so have no issues with meeting up to earn some extra funds. Lots of options but try PinaLove or Date in Asia.

Newbies find the Ayala / IT Park areas easiest for a soft landing.

Costs are generally shown in Philippines Pesos. That's what you will be paying the girls. Expect P1500 at the lower end and it goes up from there depending on what's included and relative hotness.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3056420]How old are you? 20/30 and there are some great clubs in Cybu and you will be picking up hotties left, right and centre. 40/50+ and Cebu is rightfully regarded as the online capital of the Philippines. It is full of girls who bussed in to the big city in search of Jobs or Education. Many are away from nosey and gossiping friends and family for the first time so have no issues with meeting up to earn some extra funds. Lots of options but try PinaLove or Date in Asia.

Newbies find the Ayala / IT Park areas easiest for a soft landing.

Costs are generally shown in Philippines Pesos. That's what you will be paying the girls. Expect P1500 at the lower end and it goes up from there depending on what's included and relative hotness..[/QUOTE]I am 50, but young enough to pass as 40's.

[QUOTE=Magnus808;3056389]Hello, first time here coming from the USA site. Planning on going to Cebu for fun in August. Got 2 questions:

1. For a first timer in CEBU is there a quick FAQ to give me the lay of the land? Do's and Don'ts, where to find girls? Etc. Kind of like a quick guide for a first timer.

2. When you post prices like 400. Is that in Philippine peso? Or in USD?

Sorry for the noob questions. I've mongered all over the US. I just never mongered Internationally.[/QUOTE]The lay of the land if it's your first time in PH: Go to AC, stay at the Royal. Also August may not be the best time to visit.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3056445]The lay of the land if it's your first time in PH: Go to AC, stay at the Royal. Also August may not be the best time to visit.[/QUOTE]What is AC and Royal?

When is a better time to visit? I was thinking August because that's the time of year my work starts to wind down, but I could go later. Before August is going to be hard for me.

[QUOTE=Magnus808;3056548]What is AC and Royal?

When is a better time to visit? I was thinking August because that's the time of year my work starts to wind down, but I could go later. Before August is going to be hard for me.[/QUOTE]Hotel royal Amsterdam in Angeles City.

June to October is rainy season.

[QUOTE=Magnus808;3056548]What is AC and Royal?

When is a better time to visit? I was thinking August because that's the time of year my work starts to wind down, but I could go later. Before August is going to be hard for me.[/QUOTE]Anytime is the best time. Don't let a little heat or rain stop you.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3056420]How old are you? 20/30 and there are some great clubs in Cybu and you will be picking up hotties left, right and centre. 40/50+ and Cebu is rightfully regarded as the online capital of the Philippines. It is full of girls who bussed in to the big city in search of Jobs or Education. Many are away from nosey and gossiping friends and family for the first time so have no issues with meeting up to earn some extra funds. Lots of options but try PinaLove or Date in Asia. Newbies find the Ayala / IT Park areas easiest for a soft landing.
Costs are generally shown in Philippines Pesos. That's what you will be paying the girls. Expect P1500 at the lower end and it goes up from there depending on what's included and relative hotness.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Magnus808;3056424]I am 50, but young enough to pass as 40's.[/QUOTE]Hi Magnus and welcome.

G has pretty much 'nailed it' here with his info. The Ayala area has always been great for me. There's also many options on Pina Love in Cebu city and the girls will travel to meet you. You might just have to pay a few hundred Peso to get them to your room. Bars are around Mango and I've done them once, but I generally prefer the FL route, and if I find a good one, I'll hang on to her for a few days. I've never had a disappointing time in Cebu really, and in Feb, I found one of my best results ever after multiple, multiple visits.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3056650]Hi Magnus and welcome.

G has pretty much 'nailed it' here with his info. The Ayala area has always been great for me. There's also many options on Pina Love in Cebu city and the girls will travel to meet you. You might just have to pay a few hundred Peso to get them to your room. Bars are around Mango and I've done them once, but I generally prefer the FL route, and if I find a good one, I'll hang on to her for a few days. I've never had a disappointing time in Cebu really, and in Feb, I found one of my best results ever after multiple, multiple visits..[/QUOTE]Hi Phil,

You mentioned picking up FL in Cebu city. I have booked a couple of days in ABC hotel Cebu city. Can you explain where are the FL mostly found in Cebu city.

L.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3056420]How old are you? 20/30 and there are some great clubs in Cybu and you will be picking up hotties left, right and centre. 40/50+ and Cebu is rightfully regarded as the online capital of the Philippines. It is full of girls who bussed in to the big city in search of Jobs or Education. Many are away from nosey and gossiping friends and family for the first time so have no issues with meeting up to earn some extra funds. Lots of options but try PinaLove or Date in Asia.

Newbies find the Ayala / IT Park areas easiest for a soft landing.

Costs are generally shown in Philippines Pesos. That's what you will be paying the girls. Expect P1500 at the lower end and it goes up from there depending on what's included and relative hotness..[/QUOTE]Hello G,

Where are these great clubs for picking up hotties you mentioned? I am 30 and I have extended my Ph plans including visiting Cebu city for a weekend.

L.

[QUOTE=Lokah;3057073]Hi Phil,

You mentioned picking up FL in Cebu city. I have booked a couple of days in ABC hotel Cebu city. Can you explain where are the FL mostly found in Cebu city.

L.[/QUOTE]Mango square area is close to ABC hotel. For about 70 to 100 peso taxi ride depending on traffic. You could walk it but for a $2 taxi I'd ride.

[QUOTE=Lokah;3057074]Hello G,

Where are these great clubs for picking up hotties you mentioned? I am 30 and I have extended my Ph plans including visiting Cebu city for a weekend.

L.[/QUOTE]I'm not 30 any more. But if I was, I'd start with iCon and Tipsy.

G.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;3057196]Mango square area is close to ABC hotel. For about 70 to 100 peso taxi ride depending on traffic. You could walk it but for a $2 taxi I'd ride.[/QUOTE]There are bars on both sides of the street at MS, filled with regular folks. Could be easy pickin's for a hansum whipper-snapper. Do give us an updated report, Lokah.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;3057196]Mango square area is close to ABC hotel. For about 70 to 100 peso taxi ride depending on traffic. You could walk it but for a $2 taxi I'd ride.[/QUOTE]From ABC Hot to Mango by taxi, hmmm, you got sore feet? Ohh gosh.

Its about 400 m along a big road, passing 301 Sports bar as possible pick up point. Enjoy the walk.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3057257]There are bars on both sides of the street at MS, filled with regular folks. Could be easy pickin's for a hansum whipper-snapper. Do give us an updated report, Lokah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3057255]I'm not 30 any more. But if I was, I'd start with iCon and Tipsy.G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;3057196]Mango square area is close to ABC hotel. For about 70 to 100 peso taxi ride depending on traffic. You could walk it but for a $2 taxi I'd ride.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lokah;3057073]Hi Phil,

You mentioned picking up FL in Cebu city. I have booked a couple of days in ABC hotel Cebu city. Can you explain where are the FL mostly found in Cebu city.L.[/QUOTE]Great options already offered Lokah by the other guys. Personally, and most recently, I've had really good luck just visiting the Ayala Mall near the terraces without even trying. Just look like a 'poreigner' and they'll come to you.

If you'd prefer not to look like a desperate outsider going up and down the escalators waiting for a FL to pounce, best bet would be Pina Love. Your phone should 'ping' with local FL options if you have the location turned on in the app. Once they ask to message off-app and on WhatsApp, you'll most likely be then dealing with a FL.

Otherwise, sniff around Mango like the guys have mentioned and I'm sure you'll find something.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3057274]Personally, and most recently, I've had really good luck just visiting the Ayala Mall near the terraces without even trying. [/QUOTE]Are the terrace girls a decent quality?

It's been a minute but there were girls patrolling inside and around the Bo's Coffee area but they were pretty tragic.

You're saying that the girls down below are ok?

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3057274]Great options already offered Lokah by the other guys. Personally, and most recently, I've had really good luck just visiting the Ayala Mall near the terraces without even trying. Just look like a 'poreigner' and they'll come to you.
[/QUOTE]Yes, there, right there, that's the reason I keep thinking that Cebu might be a worthwhile trip.

On a multitude of travel vids they say pinays jump all over the poreigners in Cebu!

It sounds so easy. Like you pretty much just stand there and they will come. There will be a line up, and all the pinays will have to take a number and wait their turn to see you.

Arrived in Cebu the other day, got a room at my favorite hotel ABC, had dinner together with the GF at Desert Factory, and oddly enough we were served by the waitress that I fucked a month ago, and she was wearing the shoes that I bought for her. Her attitude was neutral, not overfriendly, nor aggressive, she smiled when was out of my GF's view. As I said before, GF considers it cheating if not vetted by her, so I was glad that I didn't had to do any explaining. .

If you're not desperate, and have time, you don't need to go nowhere, downstairs is a new cafe fully packed with students, so packed that you need to wait for a seat, but that may be a great opportunity, as you can ask a cutie sitting alone if the seat is taken. The quality of girls has declined like everywhere else, now the majority are young and plump, but there are some skinny ones in the mix also. We were there for one full day only, and with problems to solve, so not to much free time on hands for socializing.

I saw some guys hunting outside, but they were mainly watching the hordes of students crossing the street without much interaction. Guys don't be shy, start with something "job" related, like where to print something, then ask for help doing it, etc, they will not come to you first, need to initiate.

Second day GF went to take an exam for some idiotic PH certification, and when she returned and got out from the taxi there was a guy that looked like me and was dress like me, sitting on the planter's wall, smiling at her, and she thought that was me, she went straight for him, but when was in his face she realized that's not me, and she backed up, the guy was kind of lost and didn't say nothing. That wouldn't had lead nowhere anyway, but I'm just saying that now I have the scoop from the other side also, and guys don't take the opportunity even when thrown in front of them.

I'll write another report about what I did while she was doing academia stuff.

While GF was struggling with the exam, I went straight to the massage place where I was a month ago (again I forgot to look up above the door for the name if it was Chuva or Sandia) and asked for J, the receptionist recognized me, probably because I tipped her well before, and usually nobody else does, and she told me that J never returned to work after the day she was with me. Luckily for me she went back to the shop to finish her shift after me that day, otherwise they may had some other ideas. Who knows, maybe all she was missing to start a new life somewhere else was the 2 k that I paid her, or somebody wifed her, or she got hit by the bus, No pretty masseuses were available, so I took off, after tipping the receptionist 100 P for good future references.

The OJTs on my floor in the hotel were all boys this time, so nothing to dream about there, therefore I decided to take a look in the Ayala mall, just for the kiks.

I took a walk around all the terraces from the ground up to the top at The Social. Lots of girls everywhere, got 5 phone nrs in 1 hour, I kept only one from 2 girls that were selling some sort of membership in front of Starbucks dressed in green uniforms, possible future 3 some when alone in Cebu. Up in The Social even that was early afternoon, I spotted 2 pros, and I talked to one of them, very good looking, so good that I was afraid she's a LB at first, she wanted 5 K until late at night, expensive, and was not the case since I was only wasting time and probing the availability in the mall.

GF called, she was finished with the exams, and was having late lunch at another mall with a girlfriend, I saw the pics, and told her to bring her in for a fuck, she replied that she's fat, but I said to get her anyway because she had a cute face, like Miss Philippines from few years ago, kind of Arabic looking.

Later she came to the hotel empty handed (when she confused the lookalike poriner with me) and told me that after she curved the discussion to the sex life and she kind of convinced her friend at first jokingly, then seriously that she'll lend me to her for a test drive, two other colleagues that she met at the exam, a girl and a gay guy, spotted them in the food court and joined in, hijacking the conversation, and everything failed apart, the 3 of the leaving together in a taxi going the opposite direction.

Observation: all the young filipino boys in their 20-30's that I saw in the mall where all fat and pale with Korean haircuts, so is not only the girls that are changing shape.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3057356]On a multitude of travel vids they say pinays jump all over the poreigners in Cebu!

It sounds so easy. Like you pretty much just stand there and they will come. There will be a line up, and all the pinays will have to take a number and wait their turn to see you.[/QUOTE]I admit its been a minute since I've been to Cebu, but I never recall girls lining up for foreigners at the terraces. PhilJoy? Others?

Got in last evening around six-ish. Hotel opposite Uni of Southern Phils entrance. Crown Garden. So-so.

Met a hotel worker on PL and meeting later for coffee at Ayala Mall. If nothing comes of it, I'll have a look round as posts below advise.

Got approached on PL by an OK looker who's cuckold hubby can't perform just likes to watch. Wanted to come round for a six hours session (after a soft intro at coffee shop nearby at midday. As I was knackered from being up since 6 am and a 12 hour trip and got to bed at midnight, I was still wanting breakfast at 11 am so I said to her 1 pm ok. She said no, but Sunday oK. I'm off to Panglao on Sunday. Maybe try to pursue on my return to Mactan hotel, before flying out. Sent pics and vids on whatsapp. Seems like could be dodgy.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3057397]I admit its been a minute since I've been to Cebu, but I never recall girls lining up for foreigners at the terraces. PhilJoy? Others?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say lining up Westie.

I got lucky on the last trip and found a 26 yr old stunner on my first visit to Ayala who came back to my room every evening after she finished work.

Usually, a four-hour session and a few over-nighters for about 3 k from memory. The exact figures will be in my previous posts.

I was staying across the road at Quest, so I'd go to Ayala through the day and sometimes on the nights she went back to Davao to see her daughter.

I did get propositioned on numerous occasions, but it was by no means a conga line of FL's ready to spread their legs for a foreigner.

I was just in the right place at the right time with this one.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3057353]Are the terrace girls a decent quality?

It's been a minute but there were girls patrolling inside and around the Bo's Coffee area but they were pretty tragic.

You're saying that the girls down below are ok?

G.[/QUOTE]I think it's hit and miss G when it comes to quality.

I've got my best results on the upper levels but have been hit-on all over the place by some tragic things as you mention.

I suppose it all depends on how desperate guys are for a FL at the right price.

They just have to make sure Jane isn't actually Javier. A few baklas were spotted in there.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3057356]Yes, there, right there, that's the reason I keep thinking that Cebu might be a worthwhile trip.

On a multitude of travel vids they say pinays jump all over the poreigners in Cebu!

It sounds so easy. Like you pretty much just stand there and they will come. There will be a line up, and all the pinays will have to take a number and wait their turn to see you.[/QUOTE]Nothing's that easy Tom, but Cebu has delivered for me.

Keep in mind, that it's only been Cebu City in my case.

Elsewhere on the island has been very quiet indeed.

Sure, you're likely to get as many hits on Pina in Manila as you do in Cebu, but it's all to do with the population.

I've just found that the Cebu girls aren't as aggressive in the chase for your pesos, and short-time is taken out of the equation more frequently.

And they tend to have darker skin from observation, if you'd prefer that, as I personally do.

Just my experience_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3057448]I was just in the right place at the right time with this one.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Shame you had to put up with that. Especially night after night.

Thanks for the pic. You were indeed lucky to find her. She looks good, strong, healthy, unlike most of the women population and the mix of lady boys.

Here are old pics of a few from bars and casas in Manila.

Cebu City and Davao would be worthwhile destinations for tourists and mongers.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3057451]

They just have to make sure Jane isn't actually Javier. A few baklas were spotted in there.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I'm not too sure about now but TGI Fridays was the place where you would see a lot of LBs. Not freelancers on the stroll but with guys taking them on dates.

Whatever floats your boat but it was strange to see old guys sitting up smiling and proud as punch with their special friend.

I'm guessing that everyone was thinking the same as me: "dude you do know, right?

Enjoy.

G.

Soon I'll be flying to Cebu for a few days of wine, women, and song. I'm not planning on contacting any gals from my Rolodex, as I'm looking for some fresh blood and new experiences.

I've visited the city numerous times and am well acquainted with Mango Avenue bars, Ayala Mall pickups, streetwalkers on Juana Osmena St. , and the numerous online offerings.

One area I'm not familiar with is the low-budget Colon bar district, centered around Pelaez Street. I love the Google Maps outside photo of the Pussycat Bar, which looks tantalizingly sleazy. I'm hoping there might be an LA Cafe-style bar with freelancers down there.

I've never encountered a problem when walking around similar areas in Manila, Quezon City, and Davao late in the evening, but I'm always a bit cautious about visiting new scuzzy areas.

Any of you have any fairly recent boots-on-the-ground experience there?

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3057456]I've just found that the Cebu girls aren't as aggressive in the chase for your pesos, and short-time is taken out of the equation more frequently.

And they tend to have darker skin from observation, if you'd prefer that, as I personally do.

Just my experience_Phil.[/QUOTE]They sound great. I would also hope there's fewer LBs than say, the Makati area.

When you say the short-term is taken out, do you mean they typically prefer long-term, or am I misunderstanding that?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3057397]I admit its been a minute since I've been to Cebu, but I never recall girls lining up for foreigners at the terraces. PhilJoy? Others?[/QUOTE]Personally I don't think that Cebu is better or worse than any other big city, except AC where everybody fucks for money, or Davao, where they don't.

The girls will not line up for you anywhere, except AC, Burgos, Sabang and Subic. You have to go to them, and start some stupid conversation, and see where it goes from there, nowhere, or to the bedroom.

"Excuse me, do you know where KFC is? I been looking for it allover the mall" stuff that's neutral and doesn't offend. If the answer is "do I look like a fucking info kiosk to you?" move along, you found a westerner woman, otherwise continue with other stupid stuff like:" Is Jolibee better? I never eat there? Do you want to join? Etc. Or get a phone nr for a under the cover of darkness later encounter.

But like Westie said, don't expect them to throw themselves at you.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3057387]............ therefore I decided to take a look in the Ayala mall, just for the kiks...................................................................

Observation: all the young filipino boys in their 20-30's that I saw in the mall where all fat and pale with Korean haircuts, so is not only the girls that are changing shape.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add that the mall is now "Dog Central" everybody has a fucking small dog or two on a leash in front or behind them, and when in the restaurants, they put them up on the table, where later other unsuspecting customers will go eat. When I pointed out to the waitress, she answered: "it's natural, sir!" What the fuck?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3057565]I forgot to add that the mall is now "Dog Central" everybody has a fucking small dog or two on a leash in front or behind them, and when in the restaurants, they put them up on the table, where later other unsuspecting customers will go eat. When I pointed out to the waitress, she answered: "it's natural, sir!" What the fuck?[/QUOTE]Yesterday in the Mall I followed a guy walking 7 (seven) small white dogs of same breed and each had a different coloured striped jacket. I don't think he was a super-specialized dog-walker.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3057565]I forgot to add that the mall is now "Dog Central" everybody has a fucking small dog or two on a leash in front or behind them, and when in the restaurants, they put them up on the table, where later other unsuspecting customers will go eat. When I pointed out to the waitress, she answered: "it's natural, sir!" What the fuck?[/QUOTE]Don't get me started on fucking dogs.

Always those tiny toy breeds. I've seen them being wheeled around in prams or carried in special tote bags.

Always some hiso girl making a scene and desperate to be noticed.

G.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3057523]When you say the short-term is taken out, do you mean they typically prefer long-term, or am I misunderstanding that?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say short-term is taken out completely. It's just that I've personally found that the Cebu girls are more likely to extend the 'transaction' compared to the typical girly hot-spots where it can be one shot fired and they get up to get dressed straight away. That's just my experience and only with freelancers _ Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3057468]Shame you had to put up with that. Especially night after night.[/QUOTE]I know Westie. It took a lot of stamina. I'm just glad we had Mondays off so I could recover.

And she stayed until the end.

That pic was taken at the Waterfront opposite Mactan before my flight out.

After many years, I'm yet to get bedroom pics with any of them. I don't know what your secret is?

A few pesos maybe? Or just natural charm?

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3057507]I'm not too sure about now but TGI Fridays was the place where you would see a lot of LBs. Not freelancers on the stroll but with guys taking them on dates.

Whatever floats your boat but it was strange to see old guys sitting up smiling and proud as punch with their special friend.

I'm guessing that everyone was thinking the same as me: "dude you do know, right?

Enjoy.

G.[/QUOTE]Spot on G.

See it all the time, especially outside the Makati hotels when I duck out for a breather and survey the nightlife in the early hours.

You feel like walking up to the (generally drunk) guys negotiating and say, "Mate, you are aware that thing's got a cock?

_Phil.

Is the Oceanjet online ticket purchase use (from Tagbilaran to Cebu) straightforward in practice on the day? Does one just get a QR code to show at security at passenger terminal? I'd prefer to avoid the winding roped-queue chaos of Pier 1 in Cebu on my way out here.

Hopefully get an early ferry and my hotel will allow early check in for small fee as I have a session lined up with a woman and her cuckold hubby who's watching. She wants five or six hour session, and then she goes to work at 9 pm.

Is Cialis or similar available here OTC as in Thailand?

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3057894]Is the Oceanjet online ticket purchase use (from Tagbilaran to Cebu) straightforward in practice on the day? Does one just get a QR code to show at security at passenger terminal? I'd prefer to avoid the winding roped-queue chaos of Pier 1 in Cebu on my way out here.

Hopefully get an early ferry and my hotel will allow early check in for small fee as I have a session lined up with a woman and her cuckold hubby who's watching. She wants five or six hour session, and then she goes to work at 9 pm.

Is Cialis or similar available here OTC as in Thailand?[/QUOTE]Cialis is not so prevalent in PH, you'll find mostly Viagra. Go to small pharmacies, to get it without a Rx.

I'm not a user, but about 2 months ago I was looking for it all over Cebu for a friend of mine.

I'm not sure about the QR code, but seeing how everything works in the PH, you may have to exchange that for a ticket at the counter, and they may not even know what to do with it, personally I would not go that route.

I never heard about husbands watching their wife getting fucked by another man in the PH, but it's not my thing so it may be possible, but be careful to not walk into some sort of trap.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3057906]Cialis is not so prevalent in PH, you'll find mostly Viagra. Go to small pharmacies, to get it without a Rx.

I'm not sure about the QR code, but seeing how everything works in the PH, you may have to exchange that for a ticket at the counter, and they may not even know what to do with it, personally I would not go that route.

I never heard about husbands watching their wife getting fucked by another man in the PH, but it's not my thing so it may be possible, but be careful to not walk into some sort of trap.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3057894]Is the Oceanjet online ticket purchase use (from Tagbilaran to Cebu) straightforward in practice on the day? Does one just get a QR code to show at security at passenger terminal? I'd prefer to avoid the winding roped-queue chaos of Pier 1 in Cebu on my way out here.

Hopefully get an early ferry and my hotel will allow early check in for small fee as I have a session lined up with a woman and her cuckold hubby who's watching. She wants five or six hour session, and then she goes to work at 9 pm.

Is Cialis or similar available here OTC as in Thailand?[/QUOTE]Hi Mary, as Ugly mentioned, buyer beware with the husband thing. I personally wouldn't be going there.

Vitamin see or V, I take my own and pay a bit more for it, but at least I know it's not out of a dodgy lab in India.

As for transport in The Phils, if you think you're making life easier for yourself by avoiding queues etc. , it's all likely to turn to shit anyway.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3057894]

Is Cialis or similar available here OTC as in Thailand?[/QUOTE]Cialis is available but the larger chain pharmacies will require a Rx. Smaller stores may carry it and issue without a script but as others have said there is a very high likelihood that it will be fake. I reacted poorly to the tabs that I received but that may have been because I'm not a regular user and I may not have had the right dosage or familiarity to it. At P1000 per tab, I thought it was expensive compared to what I would pay back home. There are reports of cheaper outlets but you need to know where has it at the time you are in town and who to ask.

If it's an option, I would BYO.

G.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3057894]Is the Oceanjet online ticket purchase use (from Tagbilaran to Cebu) straightforward in practice on the day? Does one just get a QR code to show at security at passenger terminal? I'd prefer to avoid the winding roped-queue chaos of Pier 1 in Cebu on my way out here.

Hopefully get an early ferry and my hotel will allow early check in for small fee as I have a session lined up with a woman and her cuckold hubby who's watching. She wants five or six hour session, and then she goes to work at 9 pm.[/QUOTE]Ferries are easily the most fucked up mode of transport in the Philippines. That's a major achievement given how low the bar is for all the other methods.

Expect multiple queues and windows for various tickets, fees, permits and insurances. Yes, you and I would include all of them in one ticket price but welcome to the Philippines.

Pre-purchase a ticket online for next week and flash a QR code at arrival? Nope.

The same with planning your day around expected arrival times. Schedules are only a rough indication.

As for fucking Princess while hubby is watching, that has danger signals written all over it. Remember that adultery is literally a crime in the PI so if he's sitting there watching you it's easy to imagine click on a camera phone and a report to the police station. Then you would be totally fucked and not in a good way.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3057955] As for fucking Princess while hubby is watching, that has danger signals written all over it. Remember that adultery is literally a crime in the PI so if he's sitting there watching you it's easy to imagine click on a camera phone and a report to the police station. Then you would be totally fucked and not in a good way.[/QUOTE]Actually, this has become an increasingly common kink scenario within the BDSM community and is not something I would be considering an automatic red flag. As long as the offer has come about through a process that is verifiable then I would not be worried anbout it personally. If really worried about it you could get a quick video testimonial from the husband before anything occurs to confirm that this is consensual. Indeed, have been there, done that (as the bull, not the cuck!) I am aware of several couples in the Cebu area and further afield that enjoy this kind of activity.

Go have fun!

[QUOTE=Goferring;3057955]Ferries are easily the most fucked up mode of transport in the Philippines. That's a major achievement given how low the bar is for all the other methods.

Expect multiple queues and windows for various tickets, fees, permits and insurances. Yes, you and I would include all of them in one ticket price but welcome to the Philippines.

Pre-purchase a ticket online for next week and flash a QR code at arrival? Nope.

The same with planning your day around expected arrival times. Schedules are only a rough indication.[/QUOTE]Okay now I'm tempted to try the ferries to experience how incredibly bad it is.

So far all the methods of travel in the PH are awful. If one is the crown jewel of awful, that is really something.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3058001]Actually, this has become an increasingly common kink scenario within the BDSM community and is not something I would be considering an automatic red flag. As long as the offer has come about through a process that is verifiable then I would not be worried anbout it personally. If really worried about it you could get a quick video testimonial from the husband before anything occurs to confirm that this is consensual. Indeed, have been there, done that (as the bull, not the cuck!) I am aware of several couples in the Cebu area and further afield that enjoy this kind of activity.

Go have fun![/QUOTE]We met on PL and moved to whatsapp where we had a videocall, seeing both of them. We're first having a pubic meet in cafe or somewhere and I'll get the no videoing on the table before we move on.

I found the The Generic Pharmacy here in Alona Beach sells OTC Vitaman V. Four tabs were 350 PHP (IIRC) of one brand (I think imported) , and 10 tabs of 100 MG Sildenafil Citrate were 505 PHP, a Phil brand. I thought I'd try the latter. Might try half of one tab first and see how it goes.

On the Alona Beach Road (the narrower one running from McDonalds on the corner down to the beach) I saw 2 or 3 SWs last evening. Wasn't expecting to see. But considering the tourist density here, It shouldn't be surprising.

Went ot for walk after dinner last night around 10 pm. Nothing really to see. Got approached by two or three guys offering ladies, 'very tight', massages etc. Didn't take up offers. Wonder how that would go, and for what price.

Got a student coming over later. Petite and slim. Offering 1 k. We'll see how that goes.

The cuckold deal fell through. They wanted taxi fare from Carcar. I thought they were in Cebu City or fairly nearby.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3058016]Okay now I'm tempted to try the ferries to experience how incredibly bad it is.

So far all the methods of travel in the PH are awful. If one is the crown jewel of awful, that is really something.[/QUOTE]Mate, just like any mode of transport in The Phils, the boat will set sail eventually. I couldn't say the ferries are worse than any other mode of transport.

There seems to be no such thing as a timetable. I've just found that over time, if you turn up early for any transport, you'll get away earlier than expected.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3058016]Okay now I'm tempted to try the ferries to experience how incredibly bad it is.

So far all the methods of travel in the PH are awful. If one is the crown jewel of awful, that is really something.[/QUOTE]Read the report I just wrote in the "stupid shit" section.

Ferry to Tagbilaran was Oceanjet and business class for 1400 (fuel increase due to oil etc) was pretty comfortable and a smooth ride. For return bought same but booked online plus a small fee and check in went smoothly. And crossing was calm too.

No action in Panglao. It was homestay and not really feasible. Met a couple for drinks but their photos were a little let down in real life.

Back in Mactan I stayed in Maribago, not the posh end of Newtown. A coupe of decent Japanese style coffee shops and several Korean dining options though. The cutie I booked came over, one hour late. Met in parking lot of hotel, which is not visible from street, but down a small access alley. First appearance was ok but looked a bit masculine in face, I decided to think no more of it. Anyway in room was shy when showering etc. Finally off comes the bath towel and. A cock! I apologised and said can't do. He said it was in PL profile. My bad as I missed the 'T' instead of 'F' between name and age. S / he was understanding and said no prob. As he was dressing he casually said I could have a hand job FOC, just for the bike ride home fare. At first I said no thanks, then thought why the fuck not?! Try everything once except incest and Scottish dancing, I thought! It was a great lubed hand job and I gushed cum more than in a long time.

As it was my last night, at 10 pm I was horny so I booked another from PL. A real porny-star type with all the fake moans etc. Pretty good looking with nice body. Didn't cum as soon as she'd have liked but eventually I did.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3058748]Back in Mactan I stayed in Maribago, not the posh end of Newtown. A coupe of decent Japanese style coffee shops and several Korean dining options though. The cutie I booked came over, one hour late. Met in parking lot of hotel, which is not visible from street, but down a small access alley. First appearance was ok but looked a bit masculine in face, I decided to think no more of it. Anyway in room was shy when showering etc. Finally off comes the bath towel and. A cock! I apologised and said can't do. He said it was in PL profile. My bad as I missed the 'T' instead of 'F' between name and age. S / he was understanding and said no prob. As he was dressing he casually said I could have a hand job FOC, just for the bike ride home fare. At first I said no thanks, then thought why the fuck not?! Try everything once except incest and Scottish dancing, I thought! It was a great lubed hand job and I gushed cum more than in a long time.[/QUOTE]Well, at least you didn't react like this guy did.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/875155-us-marine-found-guilty-of-killing-transgender-filipino/[/URL]

They're still talking about it in Subic and how he got off lightly with an early release.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3058748]Try everything once except incest and Scottish dancing[/QUOTE]I watched some fantastic hand movements a few nights ago and now I am watching kids at it. Great. Scottish war pipers are the best there are and cannot be praised enough.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3059506]Well, at least you didn't react like this guy did.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/875155-us-marine-found-guilty-of-killing-transgender-filipino/[/URL]

They're still talking about it in Subic and how he got off lightly with an early release.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]The circumstances with that guy were a bit different. His motives for what he did were unclear to anyone other than him and the ladyboy. There were three used condoms and wrappers in the trash with his semen and fingerprints. So, he fucked the ladyboy in the ass to completion. It is unknown whether he did so before or after the sausage surprise.

He admitted to having a fight with the ladyboy. Was the fight over payment for the anal pleasures that he enjoyed? Or, was it because the ladyboy wanted his turn as the top with the client resisting the bottom role? That is also unknown to anyone other than the two participants in the room at the time. One is dead, and the other one isn't telling.

Just a 'heads up' to any Aussie travellers to Cebu.

Jetstar isn't flying their new BNE. Cebu route during rainy season and will resume flights in October from all reports.

The new route which commenced late last year had fully booked flights at approx $600 - $700 AUD return (USD $430 -$500).

I travelled with them once, and although the fare was great, I'd go with PAL into MNL and a 'free' transfer to Cebu.

Low cost airline. Low cost experience.

You get what you pay for.

Until you get hold of a great FL.

_Phil.

May I ask the more experienced members what the usual rates are here? I do not want to overpay or contribute to inflation.

1) What is the average rate in PHP for a pretty 20-24 why girl in Pina Love for LT.

2) What should I propose as daily allowance for traveling one week to Coron? (I do not want to be there alone).

3) Is Quest across Ayala a good place to stay for a few days.

I'm in good shape, Italian living in the US, but I'm 63 which doesn't help.

I'll be in Cebu on May 23rd and I'the be happy to take you out for lunch, dinner, or drinks and chat with you. PM me!

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3062043]May I ask the more experienced members what the usual rates are here? I do not want to overpay or contribute to inflation.

1) What is the average rate in PHP for a pretty 20-24 why girl in Pina Love for LT.

2) What should I propose as daily allowance for traveling one week to Coron? (I do not want to be there alone).

3) Is Quest across Ayala a good place to stay for a few days.

I'm in good shape, Italian living in the US, but I'm 63 which doesn't help.

I'll be in Cebu on May 23rd and I'the be happy to take you out for lunch, dinner, or drinks and chat with you. PM me![/QUOTE]Hello Arthur,

1 and 2. I have been using PL with age range 23 - 29 and for LT (5/6 hours to overnight stay also) have been paying 3 k+transport. Most are ok with this. Even for Boracay and Panglao trips of a week each I have paid similar. 2.5 k / day. And obviously shouldering all expenses.

3. Yes. Quest is a good place. No hassle entry of birds. Registering at front desk and deposit ID. Good for us also. Decent rooms and good food. Close to Ayala (though I haven't had any hit there as few mention to have had in the terraces or BOs Coffee).

I have posted my travel plan on the travel announcements forum. Will be landing Cebu on 23rd May. Go straight moalboal for a week.

Will be back to Cebu on 30th and stay till 7th June. In one of the apartments in Solinea towers, close to Quest. Then proceed to Angeles and Manila for 2 weeks.

If you are around at Cebu same dates. Love to catch up and maybe share some references too.

All the best. Happy mongering.

Regards.

Ram.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3062043]May I ask the more experienced members what the usual rates are here? I do not want to overpay or contribute to inflation.

1) What is the average rate in PHP for a pretty 20-24 why girl in Pina Love for LT.

2) What should I propose as daily allowance for traveling one week to Coron? (I do not want to be there alone).

3) Is Quest across Ayala a good place to stay for a few days.

I'm in good shape, Italian living in the US, but I'm 63 which doesn't help.

I'll be in Cebu on May 23rd and I'the be happy to take you out for lunch, dinner, or drinks and chat with you. PM me![/QUOTE]1/. If you have to ask the question, then you are going to get a newbie tax added on and pay 3 k+.

2/. I always pay the ST rate per day.

3/. Yes.

Being 63 doesn't matter.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3062129]1/. If you have to ask the question, then you are going to get a newbie tax added on and pay 3 k+.

2/. I always pay the ST rate per day.

3/. Yes.

Being 63 doesn't matter.

G.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ram and Goferring, appreciated.

Yes, the inexperience tax is unavoidable, but you gave me GREAT info!

The most encouraging one is "Being 63 doesn't matter. " 😁.

Ram, I didn't consider Airbnb because I was unsure about the local guest-friendly policy, but since you preferred an apartment, I think I should reconsider them too. I'll ask the host about their policy.

Regards.

Arthur.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3062229]Thanks Ram and Goferring, appreciated.

Yes, the inexperience tax is unavoidable, but you gave me GREAT info!

The most encouraging one is "Being 63 doesn't matter. " 😁.

Ram, I didn't consider Airbnb because I was unsure about the local guest-friendly policy, but since you preferred an apartment, I think I should reconsider them too. I'll ask the host about their policy..[/QUOTE]Arthur,

I had read lot of posts here, before I planned to try out AirBnbs.

Before booking, discussed in detail about the visitor entry policy.

- Overnight stay?

- how many max permitted at any given time?

- Any advance info to be provided.

And few more things.

The policies varied from Host to Host.

In my last trip stayed in Makati in couple of them (booked after complete clarification).

Both were hassle free. But basic security ensured. And less than half the price of hotels. But individual priorities and choices matter.

In smaller apartment complexes, as many seniors have suggested, tipping the security guards works well and ensures safety and hassle free movement. Bigger ones like gramercy. Not much help by security as too many changes. Maybe helpful for longer stays.

With the past confident experience. In my upcoming trip have booked Airbnb at Cebu, Angeles, Baguio and Makati, again after detail discussion with host. Only in moalboal staying at a dive resort.

All the very best.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3062229]

Ram, I didn't consider Airbnb because I was unsure about the local guest-friendly policy, but since you preferred an apartment, I think I should reconsider them too. I'll ask the host about their policy.

Regards.

Arthur.[/QUOTE]There are several Airbnb apartments in Escario. Around the corner from Quest and Ayala. Most are guest friendly.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3062273]There are several Airbnb apartments in Escario. Around the corner from Quest and Ayala. Most are guest friendly.

G.[/QUOTE]Trillium Residence (condo) is a block or two away. Was so guest-friendly that several of us have posted pics of our cebuanas in the same unit, in the same bed.

Shame on you perverts.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3062279]Trillium Residence (condo) is a block or two away. Was so guest-friendly that several of us have posted pics of our cebuanas in the same unit, in the same bed.

Shame on you perverts.[/QUOTE]Moi?? Never. 😜.

There was some debate over if it was the same girl. 😁.

The problem with the Trillium is that, unlike hotel rooms, the front door doesn't latch locked when it closes. It needs to be manually key locked when you're inside.

Don't ask me how I learnt that this is a bad thing if you're mid vid call to Mrs G and two girls arrive three hours early and just walk straight into your room. 😳.

Yep. Not a good day.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.

Needless to say, I shit myself and tried to get them to be quiet and disappear. Obviously this is impossible while in the middle of a video call. At some point I've had my arms flapping around, getting them to shut up and generally get out of the room (which the girls instinctively did) and accidentally rotated the camera to the front screen. This gave Mrs G a full view of my panicked face, the girls walking through the door unhindered, my arms flapping around and then them making a hasty retreat. These girls clearly were not old haggards, there to clean the room.

To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.

My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. The one thing that I didn't realise was that the AirBnB that I was staying at has residential (not commercial hotel) door latch sets. This means that they must be manually locked everytime rather than automatically locking whenever the door closes (as hotel doors do).

Moral of the story: always check your door and know whether it locks automatically or manually.

Be careful out there.

Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]

I've now visited Cebu twice in the past month. It's well known that the eastern stretch of General Maxilom Avenue (Mango Ave.) is the sexy entertainment district for foreigners. On my recent 7 evenings of playing around there, I haven't seen any Pinoy customers in the bars. Only seemingly well-heeled foreigners enjoying the company of fun, attentive, and moderately-attractive dancers and hostesses.

I've had plenty of enjoyment drinking and flirting at the Howling Dogs 1 and 2, Bamboozers, and the Barcode bars. But last night, I was ready to check out some new territory.

So where do the local horndogs go to play? Pelaez Street, in the Colon district.

I've always avoided the area due to rumors it's unsafe for outsiders. But I took a chance and made my first ever nighttime visit to the area. I voiced my concerns to the Grab taxi driver, who said that in recent years the city has stationed more police officers in the evenings to help reduce the mayhem. Made me feel slightly more at ease.

Had the Grab driver drop me off at the Pussycat Bar at around 10:30 pm. It's located at the intersection of Pelaez and Sanciangko Streets. He said there were also a couple of girlie bars located on the west side of Pelaez south of the intersection.

So I strolled down Pelaez on the crowded sidewalk past the numerous restobars and clubs. As I passed by a couple of LED-lighted doorways, lesbian-looking touts tried to entice me to enter by asking "bikini bar, sir"? Maybe later, as my first visit was going to be to the Pussycat Bar.

Why the Pussycat? Go to Facebook and search "Pussycat Bar Cebu". I've never seen a strip club anywhere in the world post panorama videos of their club's interior during working hours. Clips of dancers gyrating on stage along with girls sitting with their customers on black vinyl-covered benches. A couple of the gal's looks weren't too hideous, so I figured what the heck, I'll give it a try.

No entrance fee. Customer beers cost P100 and lady's drinks (LD's) run P350. I didn't notice any secluded VIP rooms while there and a Facebook posting indicated that the girls are not allowed to leave on barfine outings.

The owners of the Pussycat operate two locations, with the second one being on Lapu Lapu Island. After climbing the stairs, it soon hit me that the videos were shot at the island location, which has a much nicer interior and much prettier women.

As for the quality of the hostesses in the Pelaez bar, I was shocked by their haggard looks. I've gone to numerous Filipino-centric girlie bars in many Philippine cities, and this bevy of undesirables was among the worst quality I've seen. Fatter and uglier than I expected.

Filipino customers tend to like their dancers to be chubby with body fat-enhanced blobs oozing out of their bikini tops, so I'm used to the drill. And it stands to reason that low-budget clubs are going to attract low-quality dancers.

But what they lacked in looks they definitely made up for with attention. They greeted me very enthusiastically yet a bit shyly, as it was obvious their English skills weren't polished. I'm a talker who loves engaging in conversation while sharing drinks with a hostess or dancer, so after a couple of minutes I took a liking to the best communicator, named Sophia.

Sophia wasn't fat and ugly, but instead was a rather plain looking and solidly-built 30-year-old with light skin and a bit of belly fat. A blah girl who had no business being in a strip club. But she was talkative, attentive, loads of fun, and seemed very attracted to me.

She's been working there for 7 months and said I was her first foreigner customer ever. In fact, she says it is rare that a foreigner customer ever drops by, as it is a scuzzy bar located in a scuzzy area.

At Mango Avenue clubs, LD's consist of either watered down mixed cocktails or small shots of fortified alcohol, both of which are downed quickly. Your tab can spiral upward rapidly if you give in to her requests to continually refill her empty glass to keep the fun going. It's the price we pay and the protocol we rich foreigners are expected to follow to have a good time playing with the beauties.

But at the Pussycat, as in all other Filipino-centric strip clubs, the LD's are 330 ML bottles of San Miguel products or 500 ML stallions of Red Horse. Most Filipino customers tend to buy only one LD, which the girls nurse slowly.

She was surprised and appeared happy when I quickly offered to buy her a LD. Even happier when I pulled the trigger for LD's #2 and #3. We started off chatting, then moved to holding hands as she kept commenting how handsome I am (yeah, she needs her vision checked).

Soon she started cuddling in close with her arms around my shoulders and face nuzzling my neck. During beer #2, we began smooching, which quickly turned into full tongue DFK with some finger-rubbing nipple action under her top as she moaned appropriately.

By beer #3, she was rubbing my cock and positioning my free hand on her upper thigh, where I fingered her pubic area without complaint. All this was done out in the open within view of the other gals playing on their phones. When I pointed out the prying eyes from the back of the room, she replied, "I don't care what they think".

I spent around 2 hours there. 3 LD's and 2 customer beers set me back P1,250.

Yeah, I had a better-than-expected time, as I really get off on perving and flirting while onsite at a club. This area of town is perfect for the guy who loves being the center of attention as an exotic fish in a small pond.

Will I return? Maybe in the future to check out a couple of the nearby bikini bars for informational purposes. I doubt I'll return to the Pussycat as the quality of the dancers was too putrid. But I'm glad I went, as now I have another story to tell the guys back home.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3062714]I've now visited Cebu twice in the past month. It's well known that the eastern stretch of General Maxilom Avenue (Mango Ave.) is the sexy entertainment district for foreigners. On my recent 7 evenings of playing around there, I haven't seen any Pinoy customers in the bars. Only seemingly well-heeled foreigners enjoying the company of fun, attentive, and moderately-attractive dancers and hostesses.

I've had plenty of enjoyment drinking and flirting at the Howling Dogs 1 and 2, Bamboozers, and the Barcode bars. But last night, I was ready to check out some new territory.

So where do the local horndogs go to play? Pelaez Street, in the Colon district.

I've always avoided the area due to rumors it's unsafe for outsiders. But I took a chance and made my first ever nighttime visit to the area. I voiced my concerns to the Grab taxi driver, who said that in recent years the city has stationed more police officers in the evenings to help reduce the mayhem. Made me feel slightly more at ease.

Had the Grab driver drop me off at the Pussycat Bar at around 10:30 pm. It's located at the intersection of Pelaez and Sanciangko Streets. He said there were also a couple of girlie bars located on the west side of Pelaez south of the intersection..[/QUOTE]Interesting post! I don't think I'll ever wander too far from the beaten path, however it's kinda cool to read what it's like. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out, although it does make for an interesting story.

Been there many years ago, and the area was so sketchy that I told the taxi driver that brought me there to wait for me, I entered a bar, I don't know which one, mostly to save face to the driver, waltzed in, following the protocol that I learned years ago in Brazil: when entering an ill reputed establishment, never stop at the door, you'll figure it out where to go eventually, stopping will put a bullseye on you as an easy prey for girls or bad guys, while marching straight in will confuse everybody not knowing exactly where to categorize you. Anyway, back then the quality of the girls was the same as you describe it, most of them were sitting with dubious looking filipinos, and 2 were strutting on the stage in bathing suits with moves that resembled agony, pain, and despair. Did a walk around and exited before anybody was able to realize that a poriner just entered the place for the first time ever since opening. Outside a welcoming comity was already forming, asking me where I'm from, have a drink with us, etc. Told them that I'll be right back just need to get some money first, entered the taxi and to the driver's relief, I told him to go straight to the hotel, because I had enough excitement for the day. My sixth sense told me that I dodged a bad one that night.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3062714] Will I return? Maybe in the future to check out a couple of the nearby bikini bars for informational purposes. I doubt I'll return to the Pussycat as the quality of the dancers was too putrid. But I'm glad I went, as now I have another story to tell the guys back home.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Joe.

It's always great to read of new opportunities when in Cebu or elsewhere.

This sounds like something I'd do just to check it out.

Always got to look out for all alternative options.

_Phil.

Hello all,

I'm visiting Cebu (after my moalboal trip) from 30th May to 7th June.

Have put up same in travel announcements.

Posting in this forum seeking some good GFE references if anyone can provide.

I have done my bit with PL. Have some line up.

I believe not much of massage or Bar fine action in Cebu.

So. Anyone has some good references preferably below 30 Y. And good GFE. Please share.

TIA.

Happy mongering.

Regards.

Anyone recommend accommodation in moalboal where girls can ve brought back? Many thanks.

P.S. Yes, aware there are slim. Pickings down there, but seek and ye shall find 😉.

[QUOTE=Pez612;3066557]Anyone recommend accommodation in moalboal where girls can ve brought back? Many thanks.

P.S. Yes, aware there are slim. Pickings down there, but seek and ye shall find 😉.[/QUOTE]Quo Vadis has a nice setting, a pool to frolic in and spacious rooms. Hotel is fine with guests onsite or on the dive / day boats and it's fun to get evil eyes from eurotrash guests at breakfast time. 😉.

Save your self a lot of issues by BYO from Cebu.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Pez612;3066557]Anyone recommend accommodation in moalboal where girls can ve brought back? Many thanks.

P.S. Yes, aware there are slim. Pickings down there, but seek and ye shall find 😉.[/QUOTE]I don't think you'll have a problem anywhere, unless you rent a room in somebody's house. They don't even know what a hooker is down there.

Last time I was there alone I fucked a girl selling trinkets at one of the kiosks on the seawall, was late in the evening, and I just asked directly if she wants to close and go with me to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3066570] and it's fun to get evil eyes from eurotrash guests at breakfast time.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]This! And it's a pastime to be enjoyed in many parts of the world. Presently in Nairobi. And in the hotel there's some NGO conference on women's empowerment or something like that. You can imagine the laser beams of hate being drilled into the small of my back when I bring a young Kenyan lovely to breakfast.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052103]Well, I've been here now for just on two weeks and decided to count the cash and see how it's all panned out.

All flights and accomodation were paid prior in advance.

I started out with 100 k and have 30 k left in cash as I write this. Haven't used a credit card or debit card once.

I've had action on 9 of the 13 days with three different girls. All have been FL's.

I've had two all nighters at 3 k per night. And two all nighters at 5 k per night. The rest have been 3 k sessions with the minimum being two and half hours, except for a PL rush job on my second day.

My pussy bill has come to approx 31 k.

The remaining 39 k has been spent on food, transport, a few meals for the girls and mainly Tanduay and SML.

The average pussy bill has been about USD $60 or AUD $85 per day of action.

The rest works out to be approx. USD $50 or AUD $75 per day for general and other expenses.

Hope this helps anyone budgeting a trip for the first time and looking to take the FL route in The Phils or Cebu.

Remember, lots of pussy can be cheaper than food, alcohol and transport. Enjoy!

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Hey Phil.

Have been reading your Cebu adventures with interest as I'll hopefully be there later this year.

A couple of questions if I may?

1) You've spelt out what you have paid for pussy but just out of curiosity, what was the most you were quoted by PL girls? And what was the average? Not the average you paid but the average (approx) that was asked for ST / LT.

2) Did any of the PL girls who were up for paid meets have profiles that said looking for BF / date to marry / no hook ups etc?

Thanks very much.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3068066]Hey Phil.

Have been reading your Cebu adventures with interest as I'll hopefully be there later this year.

A couple of questions if I may?

1) You've spelt out what you have paid for pussy but just out of curiosity, what was the most you were quoted by PL girls? And what was the average? Not the average you paid but the average (approx) that was asked for ST / LT.

2) Did any of the PL girls who were up for paid meets have profiles that said looking for BF / date to marry / no hook ups etc?

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]I don't want to put words into Phil's mouth but you may have the cart before the horse. You don't ask a girl how much and then accept / bargain down. Many girls I don't even mention money but give them what I know is a fair or even generous amount on the way out. Others I tell them my rate and expectations. There may be a little wriggle room in these but it's basically a take it or leave it offer. The big proviso here is that I know the going rate and therefore can be assertive enough to call the shots. I don't insult the girl and I'm not a prick but I don't waste everyone's time listening to hopelessly aspirational pricing.

For me:

1/. Max ever quote was 25 k. Average requested has been about 5 k. That's all overnight. I normally don't do ST.

2/. All of them. 100% have good girl profiles. Then in chat I've heard everything: should she brings a friend; can I teach her how to fuck a white guy; the only spare time she has is straight after church; if she comes I better fuck her all afternoon; multiple can I organise a gangbang? There is not much I haven't heard from a girl with a sweet as pie innocent profile.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3068072]I don't want to put words into Phil's mouth but you may have the cart before the horse. You don't ask a girl how much and then accept / bargain down. Many girls I don't even mention money but give them what I know is a fair or even generous amount on the way out. Others I tell them my rate and expectations. There may be a little wriggle room in these but it's basically a take it or leave it offer. The big proviso here is that I know the going rate and therefore can be assertive enough to call the shots. I don't insult the girl and I'm not a prick but I don't waste everyone's time listening to hopelessly aspirational pricing.

For me:

1/. Max ever quote was 25 k. Average requested has been about 5 k. That's all overnight. I normally don't do ST.

2/. All of them. 100% have good girl profiles. Then in chat I've heard everything: should she brings a friend; can I teach her how to fuck a white guy; the only spare time she has is straight after church; if she comes I better fuck her all afternoon; multiple can I organise a gangbang? There is not much I haven't heard from a girl with a sweet as pie innocent profile.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

I'm happy to just put forward what I am prepared to pay, I have done that in the past. However I'm not particularly keen to leave the cash amount unspoken unless this was meant to be a conventional date and I'm just giving some money at the end like a gift. But if it's a p2 p scenario then not discussing amounts upfront might lead to arguments afterwards.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3068076]Thank you.

I'm happy to just put forward what I am prepared to pay, I have done that in the past. However I'm not particularly keen to leave the cash amount unspoken unless this was meant to be a conventional date and I'm just giving some money at the end like a gift. But if it's a p2 p scenario then not discussing amounts upfront might lead to arguments afterwards.[/QUOTE]Sure. If she's hard core, she will probably raise the how much question any way. However, the other extreme is asking a good girl how much to stick her tongue up your arse will just scare her off and you will miss a good opportunity.

Feel the waters and proceed accordingly.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3068080]Sure. If she's hard core, she will probably raise the how much question any way. However, the other extreme is asking a good girl how much to stick her tongue up your arse will just scare her off and you will miss a good opportunity.

Feel the waters and proceed accordingly.

G.[/QUOTE]LOL. I wouldn't ask a good girl that, I do have a little in the way of social skills!

If I was asking a good girl out for a drink / dinner then I wouldn't mention money at all unless she dropped a hint about it, then I would talk about an 'allowance'. That word somehow seems far more palatable.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3068092]LOL. I wouldn't ask a good girl that, I do have a little in the way of social skills!

If I was asking a good girl out for a drink / dinner then I wouldn't mention money at all unless she dropped a hint about it, then I would talk about an 'allowance'. That word somehow seems far more palatable.[/QUOTE]Maybe I exaggerated a little. 😁.

Sounds like we have a similar outlook and process. Allowance, Support, School Fees, Transport. Same same.

G.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3068066]Hey Phil.

Have been reading your Cebu adventures with interest as I'll hopefully be there later this year.

A couple of questions if I may?

1) You've spelt out what you have paid for pussy but just out of curiosity, what was the most you were quoted by PL girls? And what was the average? Not the average you paid but the average (approx) that was asked for ST / LT.

2) Did any of the PL girls who were up for paid meets have profiles that said looking for BF / date to marry / no hook ups etc?

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]Hey Alex,

G makes a lot of sense and worth taking note of.

Personally, I've been doing this for a while. Do you mean recently, or the latest trip to Cebu?

The most I've been quoted recently by a FL was 4 k and that was for one shot and ST. Obviously she got the flick.

All scenarios are different and I only do LT. I think the average would be 3 k - 4 k with food and drinks on top. That could be for anything between a 3 HR session or an all-nighter. The last trip to Cebu I ended up with an absolute stunner and I just offered her 5 k for all-nighters after our first few sessions.

I've had FL's offer me a nude massage for 1 k and then I've offered them an extra 2 k to go all the way, which has been accepted.

I've never really seen any girls from PL who have listed in their profiles that they're after a BF, marriage or the like.

Most say looking for fun, or similar, and then invite you to chat off PL and on Whatsapp. Where the negotiating and dirty talk begins.

Advice: Always have an agreement of what the price is before you do the deed. Blow your load without agreeing to a price beforehand, and they can hold you to ransom and suggest you visit the police station with them to sort it out. Not a great option. You'll have to open your wallet to get out of that situation.

_Phil.

I will go a little off topic, are prices per p*ssy different between manila in Cebu?(only FL of course) I read the forum and they say manila I smore expensive, is it because p*ssy, cost of living or both?, I decided to do 10 days in cities and 7 visiting Cebu island, was wondering if it was good to monger both cities or just focus on one (I will land in manila so have to fly to both of them so that's no problem). I think manila has more action than Cebu city? Correct me if I am wrong, only freelancer or students not talking about bars.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3068122]Hey Alex,

G makes a lot of sense and worth taking note of.

Personally, I've been doing this for a while. Do you mean recently, or the latest trip to Cebu?

The most I've been quoted recently by a FL was 4 k and that was for one shot and ST. Obviously she got the flick.

All scenarios are different and I only do LT. I think the average would be 3 k - 4 k with food and drinks on top. That could be for anything between a 3 HR session or an all-nighter. The last trip to Cebu I ended up with an absolute stunner and I just offered her 5 k for all-nighters after our first few sessions.

I've had FL's offer me a nude massage for 1 k and then I've offered them an extra 2 k to go all the way, which has been accepted.

I've never really seen any girls from PL who have listed in their profiles that they're after a BF, marriage or the like..[/QUOTE]

Hello brothers,

Leaving Moalboal now after a week here. Was here with a close relative for his Open water dive course. I couldn't do dives as my eardrum puncture from my last dives in Bali is still healing.

As planned, BYOG. Flew one from CDO. As both my permanent ones backed out bcoz of work commitments. Had to try a new one. Worked out good.

25 Y, Single mom, very conservative, graduating business school next year.

I stayed with my relative in Cebu Sea View Dive resort. Amazing stay for divers. Great views and food and amazing professional Fun divers PADI certified.

Got her to stay in Divers lodge, sister concern of Qua Vadis. 5 min walk away from my stay.

Spent few hours in Day and evenings with her diving in the hole. Being conservative started with covered. Second session. Tried to go uncovered. But absolutely refused with prior trauma of her. CIM.

Third session. Again tried. Refused. I softened and somehow rubbing here and there. Entered doggy uncovered. With the pleasures and moans could understand she's enjoying it and then on it was all uncovered. Great sessions. Was seemingly upset after the first uncovered but confessed she dint stop me as she enjoyed. Paved the path for me. Also, great GFE. Hanging out in various bars, amazing massages. Strolling around and pool times in Qua Vadis. All good. Sent her back yesterday and I did Canyoneering. Leaving for Cebu today.

None of the resorts here has any issues in getting girl. None bothered. Specially Qua Vadis none would know you got her. Its an open area.

Only caution. Everything around the beach closes by 10 pm. And then most of the roads become private. Though you can walk through. Can't ride anything into.

Dint find any local action except for 3/4 birds sitting on dirty sewages flow. Opposite to chili bar. Absolutely non doable for me. Not bcoz of the looks. But the hygiene and cleanliness factor. Even gried my way into couple of massage therapists. Dosent work. In fact they want you to wear undies for massage. Which I blatantly refused and went full monty. Even had it alone in my room. But no joy.

So. BYOG. Else would have dry days.

Any further info on Moalboal. Please feel free to DM me.

And brothers Cebu city is a low key for me as usual with so much of work I did on PL. Have a very weak line up least to mention.

So any references will make my week long stay more wetter and better.

TIA.

Regards.

Ram.

[QUOTE=Youonme;3068169]I will go a little off topic, are prices per p*ssy different between manila in Cebu?(only FL of course) I read the forum and they say manila I smore expensive, is it because p*ssy, cost of living or both?, I decided to do 10 days in cities and 7 visiting Cebu island, was wondering if it was good to monger both cities or just focus on one (I will land in manila so have to fly to both of them so that's no problem). I think manila has more action than Cebu city? Correct me if I am wrong, only freelancer or students not talking about bars.[/QUOTE]Like for like they are both broadly the same.

However, there are some things to remember:

1/. The prettiest girls follow the money and that's in Manila. Hence, you will find more extremely attractive girls there often at higher prices.

2/. Wider Manila covers a much larger area and many more people so the absolute number of girls there will be higher. This can promote competition and lower prices of mid range, but still attractive girls.

3/. Cebu has a vast number of girls arriving for work (legitimate or otherwise) or school. Many of them live in boarding houses away from nosey friends and family so are open to ways of earning extra income. In contrast, most visitors to Manila stay with family. This is why Cebu is often regarded as the online capital of the Philippines.

Enjoy. G.

A month ago, I wrote about my visit to the Pelaez Street bar area in the Colon district of Cebu City. Recently I spent three nights in Cebu and revisited the area.

WARNING: This report is for those who have an interest in down-market Philippine strip clubs with low-end girls, facilities, and prices.

NIGHT #1: Revisited the Pussycat bar, where I met up with the dancer from last month's visit. Price of a lady's drink (LD) has risen to P360 for bottles of San Miguel beer, which is the standard rate at most of the Filipino-customer girlie bars I've visited in recent years.

The hostesses' commission is only P100 per LD plus an additional appearance fee for showing up and staying until the 3 am closing time. As I was the only customer there between 10:30 and midnight, none of these gals are getting rich.

Apparently, there's a local rule about girls not allowed to bare their boobs and pussies while dancing, which was confirmed while visiting a second neighborhood bar. One dancer said the rule applies also to Mango Avenue bars, which I can't confirm because I haven't visited one in years.

She said the only bar area which allows partial or full nudity are the clubs on nearby Lapu Lapu Island. Would love to hear some comments from guys who are up to date on local strip club protocol.

Ended up buying my gal 3 LD's and she repaid the favor with plenty of DFK and genital rubbing. During a break in the action, the mamasan walked over and asked if we wanted to use their "private room".

Cost was P2,000, which included 4 LD's. No customer beers included. Guess I could have drank some of hers. My dancer said no fornication is allowed but said "I promise to do everything to make you happy".

Messaged received, loud and clear. But I was a bit tired and tipsy, so I promised we could relax in their on my next visit, which turned out to be Tuesday night.

NIGHT #2: Upon arriving at the Pussycat at 10 pm, I immediately asked to see the private room. OMG, it was effing disgusting. I've partied in plenty of strip club VIP rooms in my day, but this one was easily the worst I've seen.

The area was similar in size to an airport handicapped access rest room. No door, just two shoddy curtains hanging from a rod which allowed outsiders viewing portals. The small couch was mildewy and tattered. No air conditioning and no electric fan, just two tiny windows allowing easy mosquito access.

I wasn't paying P2,000 to sit there, and my gal agreed it was a waste of money. As the dancers are not available for taking out of the club, we again sat on the benches and eventually got down and dirty.

Eventually, she reached into my shorts and brazenly pulled my cock out in the open. I don't normally cum from hand jobs, but this one was superlative. Like on my last visit, she said she didn't care whether the other girls were watching from afar. I managed to keep my ejaculation moans a bit stifled during the big bang.

Once I cum, I'm done. So I paid the bill and tipped her P500 while standing with her at the top of the stairs, which she immediately stuffed in her bra. When asked why so secretive, she says that if a dancer receives a good tip, they are expected to buy snacks for the gang.

Anyway, I wasn't ready to head home yet, so I walked down Pelaez Street to visit another strip club. I don't recall the name, but they are not tough to find. Two bars I peeked in are dual-purpose entertainment outlets, with the first floor being a videoke bar with the upstairs being the strip club.

A cute and friendly gal greeted me and put her arm lovingly around my waist as we headed upstairs. 37 years old and probably been in the business for half her life. In her prime, she was a spinner without an ounce of body fat. 15 years later, she's gained 15 pounds and 15 tattoos while losing all her molar teeth.

Hate to say it, but she was definitely the most attractive of the bunch that night. Of course, her 8-inch acrylic heels, thin legs, and oh-so tiny mini skirt helped a bit.

There are no lookers in Colon-area bars. Don't go there expecting anything higher than a 4 on the 1-10 rating scale.

This bar had a few customers, and their girls were energetic and fun, giving plenty of attention. My gal was a great talker, cuddler, and light smoocher. We talked about a variety of subjects for around 2 hours while she slowly nursed 3 LD's.

She wasn't shy about talking about her foreign financial sponsors and a Filipino who "looks out for her". Yeah, I'm convinced most low-budget strip club dancers are mistresses to moderately well-heeled local guys.

At 2:30 am, I mentioned I needed to go but would return soon. Enticingly, she gently rubbed my cock harder through my pants and volunteered her services in their VIP room next time. As she formerly danced at the Pussycat, I asked whether their room was nicer than the Cat's. She shook her head negatively. So, she walked me to the front door and gave me a long kiss before departing.

Over the years, I've come to learn that in strip clubs which cater to Filipinos, dancers who speak English well tend to give the rare foreign visitors great GFE, or the "girlfriend experience". Routinely I buy a girl 3 LD's and receive around 90 minutes of attention. Then I return home to an empty bed and awake to another drama-free day. I'm okay with rental friends without the mess.

In summary, I'm sure these bars will not appeal to the vast majority of ISG members. But if you're an attention-seeker like me who doesn't want to pay a fortune for great conversation, kissing, and on-site genital pleasuring, you might want to give the area a try.

Colon bar district, on Pelaez Street between Sanciangko and Colon Streets.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3068430]During a break in the action, the mamasan walked over and asked if we wanted to use their "private room".

Cost was P2,000, which included 4 LD's. My dancer said no fornication is allowed but said "I promise to do everything to make you happy".

Messaged received, loud and clear. But I was a bit tired and tipsy, so I promised we could relax in their on my next visit, which turned out to be Tuesday night.

.....

In summary, I'm sure these bars will not appeal to the vast majority of ISG members. But if you're an attention-seeker like me who doesn't want to pay a fortune for great conversation, kissing, and on-site genital pleasuring, you might want to give the area a try.

Colon bar district, on Pelaez Street between Sanciangko and Colon Streets.[/QUOTE]For the slow learners like myself what is "everything to make you happy" if it doesn't include the full jiggy jig? 🤔.

Your write up makes it seem like a fun night. I'll never admit it in public but I've gotten lost and ended up on the seedy side of town a few times. Its either a disaster or great fun. It may be an option to roll the once dice again.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Ram06;3068196]Hello brothers,
Leaving Moalboal now after a week here……

….. And brothers Cebu city is a low key for me as usual with so much of work I did on PL. Have a very weak line up least to mention.
So any references will make my week long stay more wetter and better.

TIA.
Regards.
Ram.[/QUOTE]Hey mate,

I sent you a private message about a possible contact for you in Cebu. Can't figure out how to attach pictures though.

Check your messages.

BH.

When it comes to FL bars the reviews always seem to be about Mango Avenue, there are also plenty of vloggers covering it on YT.

I've read people mention in passing that there are similar bars in Lapu Lapu and in fact the girls in those bars often forget to put their clothes on at work. I've done a search on here (probably incorrectly) and still not found any FRs. I've tried YT as well and all the videos centre around Mango Ave, nothing about the bars of Lapu Lapu.

Can anyone shed some light on the matter?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069184]When it comes to FL bars the reviews always seem to be about Mango Avenue, there are also plenty of vloggers covering it on YT.

I've read people mention in passing that there are similar bars in Lapu Lapu and in fact the girls in those bars often forget to put their clothes on at work. I've done a search on here (probably incorrectly) and still not found any FRs. I've tried YT as well and all the videos centre around Mango Ave, nothing about the bars of Lapu Lapu.

Can anyone shed some light on the matter?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been compiling info on Lapu Lapu and saving bars I want to check out when I go there. The following places are worth looking into:

- Howling Dogs Sports Bar. Lapu Lapu - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/fJFiPuwVc48PodiM6[/URL].

- Honeypot Beer Pub. (Sports Bar) - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/qKrMWsJGiKnn1Jt87[/URL].

- Club Mermaid - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/mcnad7VgkubMpBa46[/URL].

- Dplace Sportsbar - [URL]https://dplace.site/index.html[/URL]#slider04-e.

- Eddy's Restorama - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/3Lq7nx6SKkjK2myz8[/URL].

- Layover restobar - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/EjoACZSMTyhvH46t9[/URL].

- S Bar Mactan. Bar & Grill Leekim Building - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FAsbNNTwM2R3ww7b9[/URL].

- Holland Heineken Lounge & Sport Bar by Café Cappuccino - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/YqmsqufrWGaqHqJA6[/URL].

- CEBU MACTAN S KTV KARAOKE - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQqEWA4RP3g4Vdmo7[/URL].

- KTV VIP - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/yVte7LosckKMEjSw7[/URL].

- Gurls Friend KTV Bar - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/E4LZb6B5uUBomwfg9[/URL].

I have not been to any of these, perhaps someone can chime in if they have? If I do make it I will write up a trip report and post it on here.

Keen Eye Joe 1 wrote some stuff you probably read in his post from 5-31-26 02:31 here in the Cebu forum.

[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;3069199]I've been compiling info on Lapu Lapu and saving bars I want to check out when I go there. The following places are worth looking into:

- Howling Dogs Sports Bar. Lapu Lapu - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/fJFiPuwVc48PodiM6[/URL].

- Honeypot Beer Pub. (Sports Bar) - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/qKrMWsJGiKnn1Jt87[/URL].

- Club Mermaid - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/mcnad7VgkubMpBa46[/URL].

- Dplace Sportsbar - [URL]https://dplace.site/index.html[/URL]#slider04-e.

- Eddy's Restorama - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/3Lq7nx6SKkjK2myz8[/URL].

- Layover restobar - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/EjoACZSMTyhvH46t9[/URL].

- S Bar Mactan. Bar & Grill Leekim Building - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FAsbNNTwM2R3ww7b9[/URL].

- Holland Heineken Lounge & Sport Bar by Caf Cappuccino - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/YqmsqufrWGaqHqJA6[/URL].

- CEBU MACTAN S KTV KARAOKE - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQqEWA4RP3g4Vdmo7[/URL].

- KTV VIP - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/yVte7LosckKMEjSw7[/URL].

- Gurls Friend KTV Bar - [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/E4LZb6B5uUBomwfg9[/URL].

I have not been to any of these, perhaps someone can chime in if they have? If I do make it I will write up a trip report and post it on here.

Keen Eye Joe 1 wrote some stuff you probably read in his post from 5-31-26 02:31 here in the Cebu forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

I always thought Howling Dog was in Cebu City, I've definitely heard that place mentioned. I've now discovered that there are two, ones in CC and one on Lapu Lapu!

Appreciate the info mate, let us now if you make it to any of those places.

BTW, I have read keen eye joe's post but that photo you have attached doesn't appear in his post, where is that from?

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069345]Thanks.

I always thought Howling Dog was in Cebu City, I've definitely heard that place mentioned. I've now discovered that there are two, ones in CC and one on Lapu Lapu!
Appreciate the info mate, let us now if you make it to any of those places.
BTW, I have read keen eye joe's post but that photo you have attached doesn't appear in his post, where is that from?[/QUOTE]The photo is from the Facebook page of one of the places on his list, I think it was the layover restobar, but not positive.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3069350]The photo is from the Facebook page of one of the places on his list, I think it was the layover restobar, but not positive.[/QUOTE]Having googled it the photos of Layover seem like it's a legit restobar, not a BF or FL type place. It has some good looking waitresses though, one in particular really caught my eye so might be worth me popping in for a drink anyway!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069345]Thanks.

I always thought Howling Dog was in Cebu City, I've definitely heard that place mentioned. I've now discovered that there are two, ones in CC and one on Lapu Lapu!

Appreciate the info mate, let us now if you make it to any of those places.

BTW, I have read keen eye joe's post but that photo you have attached doesn't appear in his post, where is that from?[/QUOTE]There's actually 3 HD now, 2 in Cebu cify 1 in mactan.

Howling dogs sport grill & Howling dogs 2 in CC see Google maps opposite bamboozers.

HD2 is a bit more upmarket and not as seedy. It's in a better location for other mango ave bars.

Is it the general consensus that Cebu is no longer a good mongering location as the quality of working girls and venues have dropped significantly and if coming to the Philippines, it's better to just stay in AC or Manilla?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069671]Is it the general consensus that Cebu is no longer a good mongering location as the quality of working girls and venues have dropped significantly and if coming to the Philippines, it's better to just stay in AC or Manilla?[/QUOTE]I live in Cebu province, not in the city, but my favorite mongering destination is AC, if that tells you anything.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069671]Is it the general consensus that Cebu is no longer a good mongering location

as the quality of working girls

and venues have dropped significantly

and if coming to the Philippines, it's better to just stay in AC or Manilla?[/QUOTE]Depends on what you prefer. Cebu bars have always sucked. However, many still regard it as the Philippines capital of online dating.

Lots of hot girls in Cebu from all over the country.

The bars and gogos have always been shit. Expect crazy prices, girls can't leave until XX o'clock (even after you paid a bar fine), shitty attitudes. The list goes on. Cebu does have some good mega clubs where freelancers and civilians circulate though. But for point and shoot bars, forget it.

I've long argued that for the two weeks warrior or newbie there is no need to even leave Manila.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3069702]Depends on what you prefer. Cebu bars have always sucked. However, many still regard it as the Philippines capital of online dating.

Lots of hot girls in Cebu from all over the country.

The bars and gogos have always been shit. Expect crazy prices, girls can't leave until XX o'clock (even after you paid a bar fine), shitty attitudes. The list goes on. Cebu does have some good mega clubs where freelancers and civilians circulate though. But for point and shoot bars, forget it.

I've long argued that for the two weeks warrior or newbie there is no need to even leave Manila.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I thought I heard that the bikini bars in Cebu switched to a new format where official bar fines were eliminated and now girls share part of their earnings with the bar directly so that we just pay the girl and that these fees can be 50% of the rates in Manila.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069710]I thought I heard that the bikini bars in Cebu switched to a new format where official bar fines were eliminated and now girls share part of their earnings with the bar directly so that we just pay the girl and that these fees can be 50% of the rates in Manila.[/QUOTE]If your comparison point is the Burgos bars in Makati / Manila then everywhere is going to be cheaper. Save a few high end KTVs, they are by far the most expensive bars in the Philippines. Often a good night but expensive relative to every other option in the country.

If you want to, go have a look at the Gogos but I don't know anyone that goes to Cebu to bar crawl. Online, yes. Mall hunt, yes. Freelancers, yes. Civilians, yes. BPO girls after work, yes. Clubbing, if you're young and good looking, yes. Bars, hell no!!

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3069702]Depends on what you prefer. Cebu bars have always sucked. However, many still regard it as the Philippines capital of online dating.

Lots of hot girls in Cebu from all over the country.

The bars and gogos have always been shit. Expect crazy prices, girls can't leave until XX o'clock (even after you paid a bar fine), shitty attitudes. The list goes on. Cebu does have some good mega clubs where freelancers and civilians circulate though. But for point and shoot bars, forget it.

I've long argued that for the two weeks warrior or newbie there is no need to even leave Manila.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I was a two week (10 day actually) warrior last year and did exactly that, I just stayed in Manila. Unlimited pussy of all varieties but I was going a bit mental after about 5 days. It's not a great City and there's fuck all else to do there and as I'm now a maximum 2 shots a guy that leaves a lot of hours of boredom. I won't do this again, on my next trip it will be maximum two nights there, one on the way in and one on the way out. If someone had work to occupy them during the day then Manila would be perfect because in the evenings you will have an unlimited fuck pool to relieve your stress with.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3069677]I live in Cebu province, not in the city, but my favorite mongering destination is AC, if that tells you anything.[/QUOTE]Can you expand a little on that? Is that because you prefer the bar scene and point and shoot? Cebu obviously isn't great for that.

Of recent I have tried to avoid full time working hookers. I'd much prefer a part timer who has a legitimate job / in education and a little 'allowance' and a nice hotel would persuade her to let a 50 something year old man fuck her.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069773]I was a two week (10 day actually) warrior last year and did exactly that, I just stayed in Manila. Unlimited pussy of all varieties but I was going a bit mental after about 5 days. It's not a great City and there's fuck all else to do there and as I'm now a maximum 2 shots a guy that leaves a lot of hours of boredom. I won't do this again, on my next trip it will be maximum two nights there, one on the way in and one on the way out. If someone had work to occupy them during the day then Manila would be perfect because in the evenings you will have an unlimited fuck pool to relieve your stress with.[/QUOTE]Anything wrong with doing the same thing during the day that you do at night?

[QUOTE=Transporter;3069781]Anything wrong with doing the same thing during the day that you do at night?[/QUOTE]Yes, my penis goes on strike and refuses to work those hours. It has agreed to work either day shift or night shift but claims working a 24 hour shift is slave labour.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069773]I was a two week (10 day actually) warrior last year and did exactly that, I just stayed in Manila. Unlimited pussy of all varieties but I was going a bit mental after about 5 days. It's not a great City and there's fuck all else to do there and as I'm now a maximum 2 shots a guy that leaves a lot of hours of boredom. I won't do this again, on my next trip it will be maximum two nights there, one on the way in and one on the way out. If someone had work to occupy them during the day then Manila would be perfect because in the evenings you will have an unlimited fuck pool to relieve your stress with.[/QUOTE]I can relate Alex.

I generally travel to Manila to get work out of the way and then get out of there.

The challenge with The Phils has always been, that the typical mongering spots aren't in particularly nice areas ie: Angeles.

That's why I'd head to Sabang by the water as a primary option, or even Subic over Angeles, as it was by the water, albeit with shit beaches.

But everyone has different tastes and options in mind to suit their needs.

PL has provided an alternative to find action in locations that are somewhat scenic and where decent FL's can provide a better service, at a better rate, and away from the bar scene.

Even for seasoned travellers like myself, each trip is a learning experience and I enjoy discovering new places. I'd given Cebu a miss for a long while, and on my last visit it turned out to be one of my best experiences with a Pina thus far.

If it's your first trip and you just want to fuck yourself stupid for two weeks, MNL or Angeles might be the best starting point as G has pointed out.

What I like about this forum is that many of us have different intentions and can share our experiences.

My advice to new guys would be, not to try and take the easy way out and hit us up for the details of our contacts before you even set foot in the country.

Half the fun is learning on the ground and working things out for yourself.

Just my experience_Phil.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069774]Can you expand a little on that? Is that because you prefer the bar scene and point and shoot? Cebu obviously isn't great for that.

Of recent I have tried to avoid full time working hookers. I'd much prefer a part timer who has a legitimate job / in education and a little 'allowance' and a nice hotel would persuade her to let a 50 something year old man fuck her.[/QUOTE]I like it because is consolidated, no need to walk too much thru the mall or on the streets, greater variety. In Ayala you'll find at any given moment max 10 hookers, some being LBs, and you have to prowl the terraces and the floors, also you're not 100% sure that you're not getting slapped in the face if you participate in a case of mistaken identity (profession). In AC you have at least 1000 of them on a few blocks radius, and you will not make any mistakes.

Nothing wrong with Cebu, if I go to buy groceries at S&R, or with some other business, I stay 2-3 days because it's half a day trip from where I live, and I go to Ayala, or look for a restaurant waitress, or whatever comes my way. If I'm lazy I order delivery from the online scene, but I never go for the low quality and rip-offs in the bars or in Mango Square, where is full of LBs. I always stay at ABC hotel because is across the street from the university and the female dormitory, but on my last trip I observed that the same thing happened to the female student population that happened in the rest of SEA, it got fucking fat. US used to be renowned for that, but there I never seen so many super fat young people in their early twenties.

Last time I visited the bars was about half a year ago, because a friend visiting from the states, wanted to see, because he read about it somewhere, and we visited every single one of them on Maxilom and Dionisio and stayed for a drink, not just waltzed in and out, and is mostly deplorable low quality girls, and inflated prices and stupid rules, otherwise I wouldn't had waisted a whole evening there.

If the purpose of my trip is solely for fucking, then AC it is, not necessarily bars, but massages, freelancers, generally whatever moves and have a pussy and tits, is available for taking for the right price. Last time I was in AC 2 months ago I was doing mostly massagistas and I found a gem from the slums also. Right now I'm on a fucking trip, tourist style (unlimited spending) and I do bars, mostly Korean ones, but I managed to fit in the schedule few massagistas and 2 waitresses, been here 4 days and I forgot already how many I waxxed, (it may be due to old age also).

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3069813]I can relate Alex.

I generally travel to Manila to get work out of the way and then get out of there.

The challenge with The Phils has always been, that the typical mongering spots aren't in particularly nice areas ie: Angeles.

That's why I'd head to Sabang by the water as a primary option, or even Subic over Angeles, as it was by the water, albeit with shit beaches.

But everyone has different tastes and options in mind to suit their needs.

PL has provided an alternative to find action in locations that are somewhat scenic and where decent FL's can provide a better service, at a better rate, and away from the bar scene.

Even for seasoned travellers like myself, each trip is a learning experience and I enjoy discovering new places. I'd given Cebu a miss for a long while, and on my last visit it turned out to be one of my best experiences with a Pina thus far.

If it's your first trip and you just want to fuck yourself stupid for two weeks, MNL or Angeles might be the best starting point as G has pointed out.

What I like about this forum is that many of us have different intentions and can share our experiences.

My advice to new guys would be, not to try and take the easy way out and hit us up for the details of our contacts before you even set foot in the country.

Half the fun is learning on the ground and working things out for yourself.

Just my experience_Phil.[/QUOTE]Yeah, hitting people up for contacts in a place like Phils is pretty lazy. Someone's contacts have come through hard work, trial and error, money and some bad and very occasionally dangerous situations. Expecting them to just hand them over to a complete stranger on the internet is very presumptuous.

I'm glad you had a good time in Cebu, my plan is to be there for 10 days later this year.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3069817]I like it because is consolidated, no need to walk too much thru the mall or on the streets, greater variety. In Ayala you'll find at any given moment max 10 hookers, some being LBs, and you have to prowl the terraces and the floors, also you're not 100% sure that you're not getting slapped in the face if you participate in a case of mistaken identity (profession). In AC you have at least 1000 of them on a few blocks radius, and you will not make any mistakes.

Nothing wrong with Cebu, if I go to buy groceries at S&R, or with some other business, I stay 2-3 days because it's half a day trip from where I live, and I go to Ayala, or look for a restaurant waitress, or whatever comes my way. If I'm lazy I order delivery from the online scene, but I never go for the low quality and rip-offs in the bars or in Mango Square, where is full of LBs. I always stay at ABC hotel because is across the street from the university and the female dormitory, but on my last trip I observed that the same thing happened to the female student population that happened in the rest of SEA, it got fucking fat. US used to be renowned for that, but there I never seen so many super fat young people in their early twenties.

Last time I visited the bars was about half a year ago, because a friend visiting from the states, wanted to see, because he read about it somewhere, and we visited every single one of them on Maxilom and Dionisio and stayed for a drink, not just waltzed in and out, and is mostly deplorable low quality girls, and inflated prices and stupid rules, otherwise I wouldn't had waisted a whole evening there.

If the purpose of my trip is solely for fucking, then AC it is, not necessarily bars, but massages, freelancers, generally whatever moves and have a pussy and tits, is available for taking for the right price. Last time I was in AC 2 months ago I was doing mostly massagistas and I found a gem from the slums also. Right now I'm on a fucking trip, tourist style (unlimited spending) and I do bars, mostly Korean ones, but I managed to fit in the schedule few massagistas and 2 waitresses, been here 4 days and I forgot already how many I waxxed, (it may be due to old age also).[/QUOTE]Makes complete sense.

I'll visit Mango Ave just because I see it as a box that every visiting monger should tick. Just like I had to visit Thermae in BK even though I hated it. I definitely feel you on the massage thing, that's where BKK really shines for me. Every morning after breakfast I would just walk across the road from my hotel and get a massage and he, that would clear my mind so that I wasn't constantly thinking about pussy all day long. Then in the evening I'd be ready for another shot with full sex. I didn't get the impression that Manila had decent massage parlours like BKK has an abundance of, I could be wrong.

Hopefully Cebu will work out for me, I'm sure it will. I have an advantage over you in that I quite like chubby girls LOL.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069907]Makes complete sense.

I'll visit Mango Ave just because I see it as a box that every visiting monger should tick. Just like I had to visit Thermae in BK even though I hated it.[/QUOTE]That's probably what I'll end up doing. After my scuba diving in Malapascua and Moalboah, I'll simply spend maybe 2 nights in Cebu City and do whatever I can then move onto AC as well as other countries onwards from there. I won't be willing to spend a ton of time in Cebu just to work the online thing and do coffee dates that likely won't amount to anything.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069907]Makes complete sense.

I'll visit Mango Ave just because I see it as a box that every visiting monger should tick. Just like I had to visit Thermae in BK even though I hated it. I definitely feel you on the massage thing, that's where BKK really shines for me. Every morning after breakfast I would just walk across the road from my hotel and get a massage and he, that would clear my mind so that I wasn't constantly thinking about pussy all day long. Then in the evening I'd be ready for another shot with full sex. I didn't get the impression that Manila had decent massage parlours like BKK has an abundance of, I could be wrong.

Hopefully Cebu will work out for me, I'm sure it will. I have an advantage over you in that I quite like chubby girls LOL.[/QUOTE]For a few hundred pesos more get in room massage, you'll have the homefield advantage. You may try Mango square but don't put much expectations on it, most likely will be a waste of time, it was lively before covid, now it seems that nothing happens there.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069922]That's probably what I'll end up doing. After my scuba diving in Malapascua and Moalboah, I'll simply spend maybe 2 nights in Cebu City and do whatever I can then move onto AC as well as other countries onwards from there. I won't be willing to spend a ton of time in Cebu just to work the online thing and do coffee dates that likely won't amount to anything.[/QUOTE]If I have time I quite fancy diving with the thresher sharks in Malapascua as well, let me know by DM how the diving goes please. I'm sure folks on here aren't interested in that kind of diving LOL.

My plan certainly isn't to be having pot luck coffee dates with girls in Cebu. I'll start chatting to them a good few weeks before I arrive and line up a squad who seem like they're up for some help with their financial situation.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3069940]For a few hundred pesos more get in room massage, you'll have the homefield advantage. You may try Mango square but don't put much expectations on it, most likely will be a waste of time, it was lively before covid, now it seems that nothing happens there.[/QUOTE]Yes, in room is so much more productive.

If you have any suggestions for good massage parlours in Cebu City from where I could choose a good massagista to then visit me in my room I'm all ears.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069975]Yes, in room is so much more productive.

If you have any suggestions for good massage parlours in Cebu City from where I could choose a good massagista to then visit me in my room I'm all ears.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]YOLO massage near Ayala. Walk out of the Quest Hotel, turn right it's right there.

Girls will tease in store and you may get to feel a titty but that's it. Get her name. Room service is a 2 hour minimum and a case by case discussion for extras.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3069702]Depends on what you prefer. Cebu bars have always sucked. However, many still regard it as the Philippines capital of online dating.

Lots of hot girls in Cebu from all over the country.

The bars and gogos have always been shit. Expect crazy prices, girls can't leave until XX o'clock (even after you paid a bar fine), shitty attitudes. The list goes on. Cebu does have some good mega clubs where freelancers and civilians circulate though. But for point and shoot bars, forget it..[/QUOTE]This has been mentioned a few times Cebu "capital of online dating". So which sites are target rich at the moment. The last time I was there was back when Tinder was in its prime and after some quick chatting on the app I had an excellent stream of young ladies visiting me at Quest. I believe at the time it was "come over for a swim". So what are the latest and greatest dating apps in Cebu these days P. L, F. C, Bumble?

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3069974]If I have time I quite fancy diving with the thresher sharks in Malapascua as well, let me know by DM how the diving goes please. I'm sure folks on here aren't interested in that kind of diving LOL.

My plan certainly isn't to be having pot luck coffee dates with girls in Cebu. I'll start chatting to them a good few weeks before I arrive and line up a squad who seem like they're up for some help with their financial situation.[/QUOTE]We are interested in a myriad of things, just keep mongering on top. I did the shark thing twice, in Oslob, first time long ago when nobody was doing it and again 4 years ago when it felt like cattle being guided thru the rail guards, and then dive chinese style together with another 1000 friends, like you see in the images of crowded public swimming pools in China on tiktok. Anyway keep a loose schedule if you go to Malapasqua, you may be stranded there with no way out if the sea is rough, and that's valid for the whole PH. Also don't start the online thing more than few days before arriving, will not lead nowhere.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;3069995]This has been mentioned a few times Cebu "capital of online dating". So which sites are target rich at the moment. The last time I was there was back when Tinder was in its prime and after some quick chatting on the app I had an excellent stream of young ladies visiting me at Quest. I believe at the time it was "come over for a swim". So what are the latest and greatest dating apps in Cebu these days P. L, F. C, Bumble?[/QUOTE]For ease, it's hard to go past PinaLove*. Others swear by Tinder AFTER you get past the bakla and scammers. My most memorable fucks in Cebu were both from Filipino Cupid.

I'm sure other guys will chime in with hotties that they found on app XYZ. As always YMMV but rest assured any of the major apps have more than enough girls. You're not going to fuck the city dry.

Enjoy. G.

* I should confess that I'm biased. I'm 100% PL everywhere now. I did have subscriptions with Tinder, DIA, FC etc. They all worked but PL serves me so well that I didn't worry about renewing numerous different apps. No need.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3069992]YOLO massage near Ayala. Walk out of the Quest Hotel, turn right it's right there.

Girls will tease in store and you may get to feel a titty but that's it. Get her name. Room service is a 2 hour minimum and a case by case discussion for extras.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thank you kindly. It'll be useful to have a massagista or two on standby for emergencies.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3070017]We are interested in a myriad of things, just keep mongering on top. I did the shark thing twice, in Oslob, first time long ago when nobody was doing it and again 4 years ago when it felt like cattle being guided thru the rail guards, and then dive chinese style together with another 1000 friends, like you see in the images of crowded public swimming pools in China on tiktok. Anyway keep a loose schedule if you go to Malapasqua, you may be stranded there with no way out if the sea is rough, and that's valid for the whole PH. Also don't start the online thing more than few days before arriving, will not lead nowhere.[/QUOTE]There was a time when you could enjoy the great outdoors with just a few like minded individuals around but these days that's impossible. You can't seem to swim or snorkel anywhere without a boat suddenly appearing and a herd of Chinese jumping into the water and flailing their arms around. I don't mean to sound racist but are the Chinese not taught to swim? I have genuinely seen grown Chinese adults snorkeling with LIFE JACKETS in water that doesn't even reach my knees.

Scuba has the advantage that even though dive sites can get crowded it's never anything like snorkeling sites.

I will respectfully disagree about not starting the online thing more than a few days in advance. I know what you say is the accepted wisdom, everyone says it on this board and other mongering forums. But that's not my experience at all. I start many weeks in advance, did it for Phils and two trips to Thailand. I'm transparent and say that I'm not in the country but am fussy about who I meet and so am starting my search early. I keep in touch with a short message every 3 or 4 days so that I stay in their mind, and it shows that I'm serious. I don't get into long conversations as I don't have the time and also that makes you come across as a dreamer who just wants to get off on chatting.

Starting early also helps to weed out the scammers because they just can't help but ask you to send them some money, and then I block them. I can also figure out which ones genuinely haven't dated / fucked a foreigner before and I find they are more fun to meet.

In my (very limited compared to others here) experience not one of these girls ever stood me up or messed me around when I was on the ground. It probably helped that I am happy to offer a little over the going rate as I'm a one / two week warrior.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3070051]For ease, it's hard to go past PinaLove*. Others swear by Tinder AFTER you get past the bakla and scammers. My most memorable fucks in Cebu were both from Filipino Cupid.

I'm sure other guys will chime in with hotties that they found on app XYZ. As always YMMV but rest assured any of the major apps have more than enough girls. You're not going to fuck the city dry.

Enjoy. G.

* I should confess that I'm biased. I'm 100% PL everywhere now. I did have subscriptions with Tinder, DIA, FC etc. They all worked but PL serves me so well that I didn't worry about renewing numerous different apps. No need.[/QUOTE]Having been ousted from DIA for berating a shemale I transferred to Filipina Cupid and had some good finds at both. Now I don't use any except Thai Friendly when I travel from PH from TH. I have pretty much settled down with my super sexy 26 year old GF tho. Cheers, buddy.

[QUOTE=DCups;3070115]Having been ousted from DIA for berating a shemale I transferred to Filipina Cupid and had some good finds at both. Now I don't use any except Thai Friendly when I travel from PH from TH. I have pretty much settled down with my super sexy 26 year old GF tho. Cheers, buddy.[/QUOTE]As a huge generalisation, you will find more part timers and even good girls to meet after work or school on Cupid and more filthy hoes available now on Pina.

Again, that's a gross simplification but you get the idea.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3069992]YOLO massage near Ayala. Walk out of the Quest Hotel, turn right it's right there.

Girls will tease in store and you may get to feel a titty but that's it. Get her name. Room service is a 2 hour minimum and a case by case discussion for extras..[/QUOTE]Was in Cebu first week of June. And now in manila. Will pen down a detailed thing later.

Just about Yolo.

Visited Yolo twice. The therapists are an average 5 to 6. Mostly all above 30+.

You can't choose the therapist and have to go by the lineup.

Still made my headway saying I wan a young one for more pressure and long time of 2 hours which old ones can't sustain.

Looked around and chose the most young looking one (though she was around 27/28.) and she was the most interested in coming over to room (Solinea towers. 2 min walk).

As she was busy doing a foot massage. Gave me a time of 45 min later. And exactly arrived on time.

Massage was decent enough. I would say 6/10.

She was good looking, decent body. Not chubby or skinny. Smiling. Talking and responsive.

Slowly worked my way through to some talks of her single? BF? And all.

Got to know has 2 kids and a 60 yr old Filipino BF at province.

Tried all my tricks to get to the extras and finally in the last half hour she opened up and talked. Also stroked me in the right areas many times.

But the worst part was. She was up for only HJ which I did not want. I wanted full action. Which she repeatedly refused. Even after getting her number and everything.

So. Tread with a possibility of nothing happening and you spending half day with maybe around 1500 P for a 2 hour of average massage.

Regards.

Hi fellowmongers,

I have planned for a Phils trip in the coming week and based on my forum reading knowledge I did install and get a PL subscription. After spending several hours I am in touch with with 2 single Moms with whom I have planned for a date but not sure if it will turn into a good mongering experience. One is willing to tour the city etc but I might not do that with just one girl during whole trip. I have gone through several pages and read reports. Since my trip is getting closer and no concrete leads reaching out for help here. I will certainly reciprocate with places I have already visited and mongered. Thanks in advance. I will also reach out to few regular senior members of this space.

I'm back home after my wonderful 3 weeks in PH. This is my second time in PH, and I want to share a few things that can help other members.

How to meet girls: PinaLove was my only source. I have done a standard subscription. I started contacting girls a few weeks before arriving. Once on place, I kept sending update than I was in Cebu. Once girls know you are there they tend to respond. Short messages are better. Girls receive a lot of messages, if they want to know more about you then they will read your profile.

My success ratio in PL is probably around 30%. To avoid to remain alone it is better to create many parallel options. It may happen to have 2 concurrent commitments and to have to tell a girl that you cannot meet anymore.

Province girls are fantastic. End of May and June are great because students have holidays. Invite the girl to come to your city and pay the transfer. Yes, sending money is always a risk, but not everyone is a scammer. For my personal experience the risk in PH is well lower than in Colombia. I had a girl from Leyte and it was a great experience.

Girls are young and inexpert, be proactive reassuring them about your intentions and the fact that you will protect them and that you will buy a ticket to go back home whenever they ask.

Most beautiful girls in PL are between 18 and 22 yo. I wanted a girl around 25, but I think that at that age, the pretty ones are already married or single mam.

Once you meet a young girl, always remember that she is young and has no experience and because of that she makes a lot of mistakes in managing the relationship. Every situation is different, but I have seen that tolerance is necessary and appreciated.

If you suspect the girl might have a sexual transmissible infection, bring her to a visit. Ask ChatGPT where to go and prefer a larger clinic with multiple doctors, this way when you arrive probably there is one available. Remember that these girls never had a ob-gyn visit before. This is also the right way for her to start with a pill, unless you have done vasectomy or have zero sperm because of TRT.

Province girls really shy for everything when they are in public, but when they are inside the apartment their behavior is very different! In public you must be very polite.

Do not bring them to high level places, not because they do not deserve them, but because the gap from their everyday life is too big and it might create discomfort.

Remember, philippinas eat very few food per meal, but they always want a snack or a light meal, which always needs to include rice. Comfort food is an easy way to relax them.

I staid 3 week with the same princess. Beautiful, slim and sweet, and perfect for my tastes. Even too much. She was virgin, or maybe she had only a partial intercourse before. She was honestly inexpert on sex. After a few session in the darkness she accepted the light on and she spent long time studying my dick, its taste, its shape, where and how to touch it, and doing that she was completely wet.

They watch porn movies and they love when you lick their pussy. I didn't expect she could come again and again just with my tongue. After a few days she asked me to lick her pussy without my finger on her G-spot (she didn't know it as G spot) because otherwise she comes too early.

IMPORTANT. Have you ever tested the PT-141 peptide? Well, it is MAGIC. Believe me, if you have used Cialis or Viagra in the past, PT141 is way better. I have never used it before, so I decided to bring 10 MG with me for testing and I discovered how magic it is. You can have very happy sex multiple times in a single day and your dick gets and stays hard not because of cialis, but because you are as horny as when you were 17 and your dick only wants to produce its cream. This is not the place to write a guide on peptides, you will find a lot of info in internet. My recommendation is to bring several vials from a reputable source in the US, do not buy online in PH they have fake product. When you try the real one. You will think about my words here.

My best place to stay in Cebu was in IT Park ate the 38 Park ave condo in India street. There are several airbnb there, and for the same type of unit you can spend between 60 to 150 per day. My $69 unit was at level 32, with great view and very silent. Choose wisely!

Transportation: In the city use Grab. The few times I took a taxi it was even cheaper than Grab, but Grab is easy and it avoids discussions.

In PH renting a scooter is a great idea. Avoid it only if you really feel uncomfortable riding a motorbike, otherwise rent a good one, not a basic model with ABS on both front and rear. Ask for a good phone holder, and ask for a clean helmet. A clean helmet is a must and they use to remove and wash the inside at every customer. I suggest to wear shoes, long pants and long sleeves to get better protection from sun and heat.

If you like to explore, drive to Balamban, the streat is great and with little traffic, but avoid weekends if possible because there are too many young crazy boy thinking they are in a race.

Phone: Buy a local esim online. I had a Smart, but I think a Globe is even better. Remember that UNLI means unlimited for GB and calls but only to other mobiles, so keep few pesos in the account for calling landlines. It takes a while to complete the subscription, be patient. Without a local esim internet connectivity will be bad.

Near Ayala Center there is a HSBC where you can get 40,000 in one shot at zero cost. Inside Ayala mall central block at the 4th floor (take the elevator and turn right) there is a money exchange with good rates.

I wish I had discovered PH many years ago, this is the men's paradise!

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3071033].......................................

Girls are young and inexpert, be proactive reassuring them about your intentions and the fact that you will protect them and that you will buy a ticket to go back home whenever they ask.

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Do not bring them to high level places, not because they do not deserve them, but because the gap from their everyday life is too big and it might create discomfort.

.......................................................................... this is the men's paradise![/QUOTE]Nice report, we tend to forget the things mentioned above, but they are important.

Props man. I've been extremely reluctant to try or even inquire about pt141.

[QUOTE=Yddy11;3071013]Hi fellowmongers,

I have planned for a Phils trip in the coming week and based on my forum reading knowledge I did install and get a PL subscription. After spending several hours I am in touch with with 2 single Moms with whom I have planned for a date but not sure if it will turn into a good mongering experience. One is willing to tour the city etc but I might not do that with just one girl during whole trip.[/QUOTE]I don't bother with PL until I'm on the ground in the Phils Yddy.

That's when you'll get the results and your phone will start pinging when they know via location settings that you're in town.

If you're heading over to find a regular date then go for it. I personally wouldn't commit to city tours and getting to know a chick to assist her with the kids, and ultimately finances, and wasting a lot of time doing so. That's unless she's a keeper.

If you're after a mongering gig, turn on PL as soon as you get through customs and chances are, you have one who wants to chat off App and via WhatsApp instead.

That's when you know you're in.

Make sure you have WhatsApp set up beforehand and just make sure to negotiate a reward rate before meeting them.

_Phil.

P.S. PL is great in all the major cities, but searches can be thin in other areas.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3071033] IMPORTANT. Have you ever tested the PT-141 peptide? Well, it is MAGIC. Believe me, if you have used Cialis or Viagra in the past, PT141 is way better. I have never used it before, so I decided to bring 10 MG with me for testing and I discovered how magic it is. You can have very happy sex multiple times in a single day and your dick gets and stays hard not because of cialis, but because you are as horny as when you were 17 and your dick only wants to produce its cream. This is not the place to write a guide on peptides, you will find a lot of info in internet. My recommendation is to bring several vials from a reputable source in the US, do not buy online in PH they have fake product. When you try the real one. You will think about my words here.
I wish I had discovered PH many years ago, this is the men's paradise![/QUOTE]As mentioned previously in posts here, I have the most amazing female doctor back at home who knows exactly what I get up to. Although I don't really 'need' it, she prescribes a safe generic viagra for me at a great rate.

I had a bit of a minor heart scare a few years ago, but it's managed as a precaution. In Australia the government subsidises most medications so we don't pay the outrageous prices Americans pay. (Trump's not happy about it because the US drug companies miss out on screwing the unwell for cash).

Anyway, she manages my meds and has told me to never buy anything off the street. She has said the same for PT-141 and considers it still to be somewhat risky. It has to be prescribed with your medical history considered.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3071075]Props man. I've been extremely reluctant to try or even inquire about pt141.[/QUOTE]Yes Tranny,

I get where you're coming from.

The last thing I'd want to do is carry something into the country that could be problematic at customs (not that I've ever been checked) and something you have to jab with a needle, as opposed to popping a pill.

It's been noted that your blood pressure goes up and your heart rate goes down each time you take it.

Buyer beware I suppose _ Phil.

I'm a IT expert, not a doctor, so I won't influence anyone with my opinions. It is much better if you grow yours. I shared my experience because I found it significant.

Anyway, since knowledge is power, PT-141 is a peptide. Ozempic, semaglutide are peptides. It is also sold in pharmacy for per-menopausal females with a brand name.

There is a huge community of peptide users, and several large peptide distributors with about 50 different peptides. There is a lot of info in internet. Start searching on youtube to learn more.

I can talk about the effects it had to me. It doesn't chemically interact with the erection like Cialis or Viagra, but it worked with my sex desire. The older bros here know that we don't feel the same sex drive we had at 17, well, PT-141 gave me back that feeling. It takes 4 h after the injection, and it lasts for about 3 days. This is what happened to me, and since I'm not a doctor I cannot say it will be the same for you, but just for your safety, if you decide to test it make sure to have girl available otherwise you could make stupid things.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3071129]I'm a IT expert, not a doctor, so I won't influence anyone with my opinions. It is much better if you grow yours. I shared my experience because I found it significant.

Anyway, since knowledge is power, PT-141 is a peptide. Ozempic, semaglutide are peptides. It is also sold in pharmacy for per-menopausal females with a brand name.

There is a huge community of peptide users, and several large peptide distributors with about 50 different peptides. There is a lot of info in internet. Start searching on youtube to learn more.

I can talk about the effects it had to me. It doesn't chemically interact with the erection like Cialis or Viagra, but it worked with my sex desire. The older bros here know that we don't feel the same sex drive we had at 17, well, PT-141 gave me back that feeling. It takes 4 h after the injection, and it lasts for about 3 days. This is what happened to me, and since I'm not a doctor I cannot say it will be the same for you, but just for your safety, if you decide to test it make sure to have girl available otherwise you could make stupid things.[/QUOTE]I don't think that when laying in bed with 2 naked girls in their 20's, left and right you'll need any boosters to make you horny.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071132]I don't think that when laying in bed with 2 naked girls in their 20's, left and right you'll need any boosters to make you horny.[/QUOTE]When dealing with erectile dysfunction (ED), a woman's appearance is almost never the root cause. ED is a medical or psychological issue, such as anxiety, stress, or underlying cardiovascular health, and not a reflection of how attractive you find your partner.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3071096]I don't bother with PL until I'm on the ground in the Phils Yddy.

That's when you'll get the results and your phone will start pinging when they know via location settings that you're in town.

If you're heading over to find a regular date then go for it. I personally wouldn't commit to city tours and getting to know a chick to assist her with the kids, and ultimately finances, and wasting a lot of time doing so. That's unless she's a keeper.

If you're after a mongering gig, turn on PL as soon as you get through customs and chances are, you have one who wants to chat off App and via WhatsApp instead.

That's when you know you're in.

Make sure you have WhatsApp set up beforehand and just make sure to negotiate a reward rate before meeting them.

_Phil.

P.S. PL is great in all the major cities, but searches can be thin in other areas.[/QUOTE]Thanks PhilJoy, this definitely helps. I will have things setup before hand.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3071165]When dealing with erectile dysfunction (ED), a woman's appearance is almost never the root cause. ED is a medical or psychological issue, such as anxiety, stress, or underlying cardiovascular health, and not a reflection of how attractive you find your partner.[/QUOTE]The talk was not about ED, was about getting excited, or wanting sex. But I'll have to disagree with you about the lady's appearance, personally I think that's the most important thing, then afterwards comes all the above mentioned issues. I may be wrong, but that's what matters in the first place for me, it may be different for other folks.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071257]The talk was not about ED, was about getting excited, or wanting sex. But I'll have to disagree with you about the lady's appearance, personally I think that's the most important thing, then afterwards comes all the above mentioned issues. I may be wrong, but that's what matters in the first place for me, it may be different for other folks.[/QUOTE]Yep, ED and libido are certainly two different things.

PT-141 sounds crazy. I've never tried it. Probably safer to try two naked girls in their 20's.

I'm surprised to see I was the only one testing it, at least in this ISG section.

If anyone tests it, please describe your experience. I would like to compare to mine.

Please note that there is a US FDA approved medication containing PT-141 (under the brand name Vyleesi), but it is strictly for premenopausal women with acquired, generalized Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder (HSDD). For this reason the male bros in the forum will not get it prescribed by a doctor. Girls you are luckier!

I don't know the reason why it is not approved for man, maybe it has something to do with the increased risk that a "problematic" male subject could behave badly under its effect. And this would cause a ban.

Anyway, if you decide to try, - and I'm not inviting anyone to this direction - pay attention to the shop where you buy the vial.

I bought one in the US and it worked great, than I bought one in the PH, and it had zero effect. Buying it in PH was a bad idea, and I do not recommend it. It was a clear scam, and I'm lucky it didn't contain anything dangerous.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3071426]I'm surprised to see I was the only one testing it, at least in this ISG section.

If anyone tests it, please describe your experience. I would like to compare to mine.

Please note that there is a US FDA approved medication containing PT-141 (under the brand name Vyleesi), but it is strictly for premenopausal women with acquired, generalized Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder (HSDD). For this reason the male bros in the forum will not get it prescribed by a doctor. Girls you are luckier!

I don't know the reason why it is not approved for man, maybe it has something to do with the increased risk that a "problematic" male subject could behave badly under its effect. And this would cause a ban.

Anyway, if you decide to try, - and I'm not inviting anyone to this direction - pay attention to the shop where you buy the vial.

I bought one in the US and it worked great, than I bought one in the PH, and it had zero effect. Buying it in PH was a bad idea, and I do not recommend it. It was a clear scam, and I'm lucky it didn't contain anything dangerous.[/QUOTE]What are the effects, and side effects, just makes you horny?

[QUOTE=Arthur62;3071426]I'm surprised to see I was the only one testing it, at least in this ISG section.

If anyone tests it, please describe your experience. I would like to compare to mine.

Please note that there is a US FDA approved medication containing PT-141 (under the brand name Vyleesi), but it is strictly for premenopausal women with acquired, generalized Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder (HSDD). For this reason the male bros in the forum will not get it prescribed by a doctor. Girls you are luckier!

I don't know the reason why it is not approved for man, maybe it has something to do with the increased risk that a "problematic" male subject could behave badly under its effect. And this would cause a ban.

Anyway, if you decide to try, - and I'm not inviting anyone to this direction - pay attention to the shop where you buy the vial.

I bought one in the US and it worked great, than I bought one in the PH, and it had zero effect. Buying it in PH was a bad idea, and I do not recommend it. It was a clear scam, and I'm lucky it didn't contain anything dangerous.[/QUOTE]Well you can always go "gray" as people do with lots of peptides. YOu can buy online, get some bacteriostatic water to reconstitute, 5 ML syringes, 0. 22 micron filters, 5 ML sterile vials and "make" your own. Oh, insulin syringes to inject yourself. Also melanotan 2 does the same thing and give you a tan over 2 weeks. Just search "buy PT-141 online" you will find sources they are gray "for research use only" but many people use gray peptides for various things.