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delmas & delmas 56 (front of sogebel) I had two of them at the same time 50 haitina dollrs each. good experience

How much is that in US Dollars?

less than 10 USD
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DESTROYER
[i]How much is that in US Dollars? [/i][/QUOTE]

A good fuck is 10USD on the street, mediocre one/NEW COMERS/strollers are cheaper. I had a stroller for that price geek included. better ones in Harry's, Cheers more expensive too minimum 20USD.

where is the action?
1- carrefour in the niteclubs, girls from this area ten d to be freakier and cheaper try M Vincent, aka Brisa del mar a blend of girls from DR and freelance locals. Can check as early as 7PM

2- Champs- mars, Rue capois area, the action start around 9 PM make sure to have a car

3- Grand rue from Rue St chareron to rue Paul six. very cheap and ugly

4- Delmas 41 around Teleco building so-so

5- Delmas 56 & route Delmas good bang for the buck

6- Petion ville, rue pan amaricaine and one parallel street on each side. for a better price hunt around 1 AM

7- petion ville check the lesbian shows running at Funhouse can get some regular there cause the DR girls performing are too expensive IMHO

8- for more freaky stuff, you need to reach the underground market. I still have my personal inventory

I will fly to Port-Au- Prince the week of the 12th of JUly.
Where can i stay that is girl friendly?
Also, anyone have some refferals I can contact there to get started?

I don't really know cause I use to live there. The best way to go is to rent an appartment/studio. Check kinam appts. While living in appartments you can do what ever you want. Kinam appts are in Petion-ville. Check them for price & stuff

Hi Bootlover --

Can you give a more detailed size up of the scene. I'm a seasoned world-wide punter, but the only third world coutnries I've punted in are Thailand (a stretch (really more "2nd world") and Uruguay).

Seems to me that Haiti is ultra-third-world. Sooooo, how do you handle security. Is it a real problem. I like clean street walkers as well as all the rest). Are all the girls here HIV+ -- or on there way there with a good dose of syphillis or hep B?

Do the girls give BBBJ, etc.? Is there a red light district? Any places to absolutely avoid? Hotels or banks wherein one may use their ATM? Stuff like that: the basics.

Thanks in advance,
JWadd (I plan to go there next summer)

1- Security is not a concern as long as you stay in petion-ville. If you plan to go to other places make sure you have a car and you're set.
2- HIV+ concept is definitely well established in the minds since even educated people still believe in it. (USA FDA has stated how wrong they were, but the damage has already been done). I consider every girl I encountr everywhre on the planet as highly probable HIV carrier and act accordingly.
3-Petion-ville again for the clean SW. However, borthels in carrefour have clean ladies but they are inside (not SW)
4- I never had BBJ since I'm very cautious (I can count the ladies who did that to me-less than ten in my whole life). BBJ may be available, but the sex focus there is not on blowjob.
5- No ATM as far as I remember, no red light district. Place to avoid Cite soleil (anyhow no cab will drive you there even if you are paying high price)
6- for STD, I can tell you that I 've nailed some of them for close to ten years

Hey bootylover I agree haiti has a bad wrap , but one should always wear a condom anyway. I had a hot chica from haiti in boca chica DR and she me some best sex I ever had. Is there a hotel in port-au-Prince where you can just lay back and relax and bring the girls with no problem. The night club sence how easy is it to pick up girls. I would like to know the price of hotel and girls also where the lite tan girls hanging out at. Don't get me wrong I like the dark ones to just want a chioce of flavors. MOst of all will I be safe.

Thanks Bootlover.

JWadd

Are you saying that these women won't give head?

Hey guys! what's goin on in the streets & aside. I haven't gone chasing (against my will) for a long time. Post your experience here

Hey you all. I'll keep you posted on the market soon

hi bootylover:
a full update on this city would be appreciated if you get the chance. J.G.

First update.-
1) conversion rate for US$ is 40 gourdes for 1 dollar.
2) SW ask for 250 gourdes a shot but a local will get them for 100
3) Theoretically, age restriction exist but not enforced (unless you exagerate)
4) the younger, the cheaper but make sure you have a car and visit Petion-ville (in the casino area) and Port-au-Prince (Champs de mars area). Lower he windows and don't go fast (you won't be bothered by police)
5) Expect to pay more since you are a foreigner
6) If you give a ride just ask: "m sou kon yen e ou men m?" (I'm in the mood of fucking, what about u?) neext you ask ;"combien?" (how much?)
Don't let the SW in the car before negotiation (unless you really want her) just ask "combien ou kon yen?
7) don't ever negociate in dollars u'll overpay and bring attention to you
8) there's no security issue

YES!!
Finally an update on this city which I plan to visit later on this year. Thank you Bootylover. Are you in Haiti right now?
It is great that security is not an issue. How about the electricity? I heard that only 2% of people have electricity and that it goes out frequently.
What are the range of sexual services to be expected? oral? anal?
Thanks again for the update. J.G.

Electricity is a rare and private resource these days. If you'll stay at a middle class private house u won't be severely affected cause they use a mix of generator, power inverter and solar panel when they they don't live in priority areas (24/7 electricity). If you'll be at the hotel don't bother cause every comercial place have electricity.
I had two in my car last nite, lesbian show finger in pussy and ass and nailed both of them for 300 gourdes (less than 10 US). They were young (compared to US standards) but ok for here. They were willing to do anal but in private (secretly from each other). Everything can be negociated, but always discuss with one at a time. If you you are looking for anal and she said no don't try in the same group cause even the anal providers will say they don't do it.
I'm there and having good time due to the fallingof the gourde

Thanks Bootylover. So I understand that if I stay at a hotel, electricity won't be a problem.
I have a few more questions if you don't mind. In some of the travel books, hotel Olofsson(I don't know if I spelled it right) seems to be the only recommended hotel. I guess they charge about 60 dollars a night. Do you know if the hotel allows women/prostitutes to come in to the rooms?
I don't speak a word of French. Will I be able to find a single taxi driver who speaks some English? I assume some of the airport and hotel staff speak some English, right?
Unfortunately I dont' really have a good concept of what the women there look like. Are they all kind of thin or are there some with nice "booties" and big boobs?
I assume that it's probably pretty easy to have sex with the regular girls too, right? Of course it would help if I spoke the language!
10 dollars for two ladies? Can't beat the price, and I love black women. Gotta check out Haiti.
Thanks again for the info. J.G.

1- If you stay at Olofson, you'll be part of their thursday nite gathering. The crowd,(as for the owners) is bi-sexual and you might be finding quality girls there, more expensive though (undercover SW)
2- U can have guest in almost every hotel (besides fine hotel such as El Rancho). But there's always a way to bring em in
3- If you move around in Petion-Ville where it's safer English won't be a barrier you won't be the first english speaking customer in a country where diferent languages are understood
4- Using taxi driver may induce a security risk since he will know that you have dollars, that you are alone here and you'llbe ripped off (high price for him and the girls)
5- Your best bet, rent a car, with a private plate, get a map and know how to shuttle between Delmas, Petion-Ville and Port-au-Prince. It's pretty easy and short.
6- To get leads, hire a prostitute (fuck her first then ask for lesbians shows (her + 2 friends) then you'll have 3 informers. Never wander where they live (poor neighborhoods). Just ask for body type and practices. It's never a good idea to sleep overnite with a prostitute(anywhere in the world)
7- As the country gets poorer, as regular girls are willing to engage in Sex in exchange of money, but not all of them be careful.
8- As a local, it's normal that i get the best bang for my buck, u'll hardly beat that
9- when u request anal just ask for "toubouda" pronounced "twobooda" meaning asshole
[QUOTE]Originally posted by J.G.
[i]Thanks Bootylover. So I understand that if I stay at a hotel, electricity won't be a problem.
I have a few more questions if you don't mind. In some of the travel books, hotel Olofsson(I don't know if I spelled it right) seems to be the only recommended hotel. I guess they charge about 60 dollars a night. Do you know if the hotel allows women/prostitutes to come in to the rooms?
I don't speak a word of French. Will I be able to find a single taxi driver who speaks some English? I assume some of the airport and hotel staff speak some English, right?
Unfortunately I dont' really have a good concept of what the women there look like. Are they all kind of thin or are there some with nice "booties" and big boobs?
I assume that it's probably pretty easy to have sex with the regular girls too, right? Of course it would help if I spoke the language!
10 dollars for two ladies? Can't beat the price, and I love black women. Gotta check out Haiti.
Thanks again for the info. J.G. [/i][/QUOTE]

Thanks a lot for the info Bootylover. I'll try to be there in the second week of Feb. Will post my experiences. J.G.

make sure you drive delmas road at nite low speed great bargain
[quote]originally posted by j.g.
[i]thanks a lot for the info bootylover. i'll try to be there in the second week of feb. will post my experiences. j.g. [/i][/quote]

I went chasing on saturday nite and here is my report:
1- I nailed one of my regular SW and overpaid her (cause I can get it for free from time to time). Anal was included for 250 gourdes (no rush)

2- I nailed another favorite SW 30 min later and overpaid her (Anal was included for 250 gourdes (no rush). She offer whatever I want and make sure I'm satisfied.

3- They ask for 250 gourdes, but negociate at 100 gourdes & settle most likely at 150 gourdes. Then you bargain for extra. fuck the pussy and finished in the ass will cost around 250 gourdes way less than $10.

4- The emerging crowd of Delmas road seems to be under chase (too obvious, too much)

5- Best bet remains college girls where you offer a ride and if she don't offer flesh you mentioned how interedted you are. You'll get good quality that way and the sex is immediate. 3 segments are the best:

a) Delmas Petion-ville
b) Petion-ville bourdon
c) Petion-ville - Canape vert.

Try lunch time and have some pusy for a lunch

P.S If you want some expensive (by local standards) stuff , try Harry's in Petion-ville and Millenio (domiican girls). don't choose in a rush take your time they will come to you and pick some of them. Cheaper by the bunch. Stay safe

Has anyone heard of the Crystal Palace in Petionville? I was there in 1999 and it was a good nightclub for picking up girls. I got a girl from the Dominican Republic. Is it still open?

Good stuff Bootylover. Keep those reports coming. J.G.

Crystal Palace is basically dead now for same or higher quality go to Milenio (in Petion-ville). Interesting place also is the Fun house (Petion-Ville) wih nice girls (dominican) doing strip tease and soft core lesbian shows (sometimes hardcore). The secret in these place is to hunt for regular girls cause 95% of them are undercover prostitute (better quality and wider range of services, pricey by local standards but way cheaper than the girls performing)

Now for every dollar you get 53 gourdes, that means more services at lower prices since even gourdes are scarce. For less than $5 I can get good anal. A real bargain

Thanks Bootylover for the security tips; all excellent. I posted some questions in the "other places" section for Haiti here at the Forum. Please take a look. Thanks in advance.

Good hunting on your trip JG. Give us a report when you get back, thanks.

-Mattster


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bootylover
[i]1- If you stay at Olofson, you'll be part of their thursday nite gathering. The crowd,(as for the owners) is bi-sexual and you might be finding quality girls there, more expensive though (undercover SW)
2- U can have guest in almost every hotel (besides fine hotel such as El Rancho). But there's always a way to bring em in
3- If you move around in Petion-Ville where it's safer English won't be a barrier you won't be the first english speaking customer in a country where diferent languages are understood
4- Using taxi driver may induce a security risk since he will know that you have dollars, that you are alone here and you'llbe ripped off (high price for him and the girls)
5- Your best bet, rent a car, with a private plate, get a map and know how to shuttle between Delmas, Petion-Ville and Port-au-Prince. It's pretty easy and short.
6- To get leads, hire a prostitute (fuck her first then ask for lesbians shows (her + 2 friends) then you'll have 3 informers. Never wander where they live (poor neighborhoods). Just ask for body type and practices. It's never a good idea to sleep overnite with a prostitute(anywhere in the world)
7- As the country gets poorer, as regular girls are willing to engage in Sex in exchange of money, but not all of them be careful.
8- As a local, it's normal that i get the best bang for my buck, u'll hardly beat that
9- when u request anal just ask for "toubouda" pronounced "twobooda" meaning asshole [/i][/QUOTE]

Hey guys, I've came to realize that these days of tough economic situations more regular girls are willing to make money and less SW are available on weekdays. Of course it's the best time to bargain since there are less mongers competing for their service

BL.

What's your take on the Haitian countryside. A friend of mine who works with a Christian Charity just came back from a place in the country called Hinche. He said he got some lovely young women for U$1.00 included anal.

He says however, that their overall performance was weak...they basically laid there or sucked just for the hell of it--zero enthusiasm. He gave the impression that Haitian women are not very sexual, not very good at all. Just in it for the dollar.

Also pointed out, that due to the poverty level most folks are incredibly greedy to the point where safety could be a paramount issue.

Please give me your take.

Booty lover
I was very close to buying a ticked to Port-au-Prince. I wasn't too worried about security or the language barrier, because I figured that with the old mighty dollar in hand, I could get some Haitain dude to translate for me and be my body guard. However, then I read that the Port-au-Prince traffic is horrible. I read that sometimes it takes two hours just to go 5 miles. That's the straw that broke the camel's back. I just didn't want to go pick up a girl, and then spend 2 hours in the traffic getting back to my hotel.
Meanwhile, like you said, that leaves more girls for you to enjoy. Happy hunting. J.G.

The farther they are from big cities, the cheaper they are. On the flipside, the more distant they are to foreigners.
As a rule for mongering in the third world, establish some good human relations and then you can get good service. Neglecting this factor always give you weak service. In major cities you might be more lucky to find the ones who knows how to fake.
Safety might be in fact a concern as go lower on the poverty scale, just take that into account for your blow jobs fantasies.

Traffic is indeed crazy during commuting period almost everywhere & during daytime in downtown areas. However, no one try to get meat during these period why would you try to?
I'm glad that you stay away form the country, this will strengthen my bargaining power
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sinclair
[i]BL.

What's your take on the Haitian countryside. A friend of mine who works with a Christian Charity just came back from a place in the country called Hinche. He said he got some lovely young women for U$1.00 included anal.

He says however, that their overall performance was weak...they basically laid there or sucked just for the hell of it--zero enthusiasm. He gave the impression that Haitian women are not very sexual, not very good at all. Just in it for the dollar.

Also pointed out, that due to the poverty level most folks are incredibly greedy to the point where safety could be a paramount issue.

Please give me your take. [/i][/QUOTE]

Bootyman:
Weren't you the one encouraging people to get some pussy during lunch time in a previous post? Now you ask why would anyone want to get pussy during daytime? When I am on my hard earned vacation, I go for pussy 24 hours a day. I have read a lot about Haiti and I have trouble believing that the Port-au-Prince traffic is your usual big city traffic.
At any case, you are the one who has been there not me, so I stand corrected. Thanks for your solid posts in the Haiti section. J.G.

Hey dudes I might have to go......./ is there a variety of chicas dark & light skinned mammas???/Can u get a hotel with A/C for 15.00 dlrs a night???

Is Haiti a good place for cheap variety? Are there places with lots of street girls to choose from? Will the girls do BBBJTCNQNS?

SMALLWORLD

Also, is it safe for an American white-guy to be street mongering? Can young maids be bribed? If so, for how much work involved?

SMALLWORLD

I check the area tonite & will keep u posted

I went chasing and realized there were less providers on the streets. I picked up a regular one and learned that a sick guy had been killing them. Fortunately, he is in jail now; but since the supply is lower prices will go up. I'll try semi-pro & will keep u posted.

Anyone can be street-mongering but you need a car for that. Any where young maid can be bribed, (it's a human thing) Just try your luck & keep us posted
There's a variety of style & shape, this country is very eclectic, but I doubt U'll find A/C equipped hotel for 15 bucks a day. Stay safe

I have a few questions if someone would take the time to answer them. I all ready my next trip planned and have spent a little bit of time in the DR. I usually do my own mongering and getting semi/pros and chasing normal girls. From what I have read Haiti is so much cheaper than the DR. It has piqued my interest. I never drive in another country so I would have to look into that. I would like the name and contact info of a hotel that has a safe, modest, for less than 40US a night. I am on a tight budget and would mainly be getting street girls. This trip would be end of this year. Does anyone have a taxi driver they recommend? I am interested but I will never go to another country without some type of info. I hate to waste time learning the hard way, by mistakes, lol
wolverine7l

I'm statewide currently, I'll update you very soon

Last sunday I scored two of them i Petion-ville.
One at the corner of darguin and a street parallel to Lamarre. She was young, clean and would do many thing with some patience
One at the corner near Planetfood (goes by the name of Baby). Not good at all but was glad to take 250 gourdes (around 5 US$) for some cornholing session. At this price, I had to

Friday nite, score two (200 gourdes each)
One quite ugly, with astounding big perky butt and one of the fattest clit in the area. Too bad she didn't speak greek.
One extraordinarily well-shaped, on Delams road near Petion-ville. That was my second time with her. I have her contact and she seems to be willing to give more & more. I guess greek will be on the menu next time or so ( may be I'll be the first one on her dirt road)
Stay safe

Ooops I did it again. Greek action on Delmas 33, drive and look around (around 8 PM) not all hitchhikers are for real. I got her (her first time) for 250 gdes. Great body.
Don't dare to go to Delmas 70 & delmas road they are no longer worth the stop

Booty Lover, You're my kinda guy. Greek in a French speaking country is more readily available than with the chicas across the border. Still never had some in Haiti. Any phone numbers to offer for a visit next month? Need some beautiful Haitian butt. Did you have to walk with your own lube? Or was she prepared?

Hello to all Port-au-Prince experts.

Please advise on feasibility of my project:

- going to port-au-prince around end of September

- stay about a week

- get a hotel in petionville in the US$ 50/day range, where i can bring girls back to my room

- not rent a car

- during the day, walk around petionville and meet (non pro) girls, possibly bringing them back to the hotel on the spot.

- go to fashionable discoteques or bars in Petionville, pick up non-pro girls (I usually have no problem doing that in DR, and I speak French, so I am driven to think that it will work in Haiti) and have a nice night at the hotel.

- worst case scenario, walk around in petionville after bar or discoteque, and pick up SWs in the street, expecting to pay US$5-10 a pop.

Any obvious faults, or mistakes, or things that any resident would never do? I am especially concerned about a decent hotel letting me bring back obvious *****s.

All I really need is a hotel room with a decent bathroom, air conditioning, no roaches, and a safe, and I presume that should set me back in the 50s range.

Thanks for any advice.

freedick

Oh, I forgot something...how is Greek considered between "regular" girls in Haiti? Just sex or something a "regular" girl should only do with boyfriend etc?

Freedick, no car no choice of girls
U have to stay in Petion-Ville for nite life & u'll find girls at almost every club. Just ask for info. For one week, don't expect too much luck with regular.
never pay in US$, pay in gourdes for 500 gourdes u'll easily get anal (street).
Here's the way to go' for each girl u nail ask her to bring firends for lesbo game with semi pro that should cost 1000gdes a piece (US$20). make sure they visit u during the day so that u can be free for nite chase.
never go to the girls place, never. always keep your valuables locked.
I don't know for hotels since I never had to use them. drop them a call. The best ones might not be guess friendly and will always compel girls to negotiate higher prices. If you cn pay that hotel you can pay the pussy. If you rent a car no big one, a sedan is fine.

let's face it. This country has a booty-centric culture which means that small or flat butt are very rare. It also means that every girl expect you to give her butt some attention. Therefore the path to her asspipe is closer than you might imagine. Just let her know how crazy you are about her butt and.......

Stay safe!

tang,

can you provide any other details about the scam girl?

now i built a phobia for blondes in their early twenties walking spenard. i think i saw one last night down by the barrett and puffin inn. she gave me the eye but that post was haunting me.
did she say she was going to call [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] on you or something?
you seem too experience to be involved in something so rookie.
was there someone backing her up? since she got away with it
once i m sure she's going to try it again. then maybe anchorage will have new missing person posters everywhere again.

pickings were slim and rep001tered this weekend. i wasnt able to
score. i saw young lovely native glennette getting lectured by anchorages finest saturday early pm. i think she took the message as she's not been seen since and she was tweaking real bad talking to herself and stuff.

otter

Hey bootylover,

I think I'm going here instead of back to Jamaica, seems like there would be more monster bubblebutts here to taste and pound at a much cheaper price. Plus, crime stats and travel warnings about Haiti don't scare me - if you act and dress like a dorky rich tourist and wander into ghetto areas by accident, it's obvious what would happen to you in places like port au prince and kingston. Anyhow, I'll check out the SW and club scene in the cities of course, but Bootylover have you done any looking in the countryside? I would love nothing more than to worship some big chocolate booty out in the sugar cane fields and rolling hillsides. Also, is creole/french knowledge a must?, since many Haitians travel to and live in US cities like NY, NJ, Miami, etc. you'd think at least basic English language would be understood - not in the countryside though I'm sure. Well, Haiti seems like a mecca for big chocolate bunghole fans like myself. I'll keep my tube o' lube on my belt next to my canteen when I head off into the countryside. Will update you when I get back.

In fact crime rate is pretty low, they are that unusual that when they happen they are overspoken (because it's still a small country). Big booty abund here (don't think they are bigger than in Jamaica, but they might be because girls strive to have a big one). The good news is that they may be way cheaper. I don't wander country side although girls would be cheaper there. For wider choice & less negociation, I stick to the capital. Cap-Haitian might be a good spot these girls tend to be darker & more lovely. try your luck (there's open seaport there & drug smugglers too bargaining may be hard).
If you don't have at least some french, make sure you have a guide if you are short on time. girls fro ghettos areas are cheap and do everything but don't go get them, just ask for them. never negociate in dollars 7 don't give large amount of cash. If you want to tip a girl, let's say 500gdes/usd10 give her 250 one day & 250 the other day. You are sure that you'll see her again with whomever you ask her for & you'll be safer from stealing attempt.
I have a semi-pro who would be more exepensive and a SW all big bootied. The SW hasn't done the bunghole stuff yet (i'm taking my time with her & assfinger her meanwhile). Stay covered & safe

Gentleman,
I hate to spoil your fun and I certainly don't want to be called a racist, but it should be noted the Haiti is the AIDS CAPITAL OF NORTH AMERICA! Not New York City, San Francisico, L.A. or even Wash. D.C. It is estimated that at least 4% of Haiti's population (perhaps as high as 10%)either have AIDs or are HIV+, the true figure for the high risk group, I.e., sex workers maybe closer to 10% - 25%. Just keep this in mind and buyer BEWARE!

I appreciate your sound comment, mostly for those who want bareback sex. However, I'd like to have the reference for these figures along with a comparison for other destinations.
My rule every girl is sick (gf or wife- they may just bring it back home) I should be careful

yesterday nite I went chasing in delmas area (delmas 41, close to the telecom office). I picked a young one firms tits taut & perky ass. She was willing to please but no greek or lesbians. We did the deed for the equivalent of US$4 (quite expensive but I was horny).

OOps I did it again with Baby in Petion-ville. Asspipe reaming for 300 gourdes. She seems to specialize in greek. She stands around Contempo Dry Cleaning (forgot the street name)

I went out yesterday nite but nailed nothing. I wanted anal from some big booty provider but they weren't there. I try this fresh one (one month mileage) that I could do in some other country for age of consent constraint, but I dropped her. I met two light skin asking for 500 gdes I passed. For that much I could easily get greek.
It's seems that there's some pressur on the SW, the police told them they are out too early (around 7:30PM)

Dear Bootylover
I know why you didn't nail anything: all the girls are scared of you! As soon as they see you coming, they run and hide in a desperate effort to protect their anal sphincters!
But please don't let this one minor set back discourage you from continuing your important work. We are all counting on you. J.G.

Bootylover, I share your interest in Greek. Also like black girls. Do Haitian girls insist on condoms or is bareback anal ok? Sounds like Haiti is a premium anal destination - I've only mongered in Thailand, Cambodia, and Philippines, and only in the latter is anal at all redily available. (it doesn't help to be a bit oversized).

SW focus on condom for penetration, which is good enough for me & I never tried to bargain for bareback (front or back). Asian girls tend to be relutant for anal, may be its because they have so tight orifices

For Bootylover or to someone with info,
I have taken many trips to the DR and would like to give Haiti a chance because I like dark women. I really like the quotes for sex and I get the opinion it is about 5US for just short-time sex, and less than 15US for overnight, correct me if I am wrong.

I have been apprehensive in the past due to posts regarding safety in Haiti but I am adventurous and I would like to use two taxi drivers that I obtain numbers from to drive me around to find girls or bring girls to me to pick from. I just have a few questions, my trip will be in early/mid December and I can not find any contact info for hotels that are midpriced. In the DR I pay 30US for a hotel with safe, kitchenette, and security guard(Residence Los Pinos in Boca Chica). Are there any reasonably priced hotels that have a safe, don't need a/c: with some type of contact info? I would prefer one for less than 45US a night. What is the beach like in Port au Prince and are there many girls available to be picked up at the beach? I do not speak French but speak English and am halfway fluent in Spanish so I don't think that will be a problem. I thank anyone for any help they can give me. I would like to purchase a ticket soon but I need to know about some modest priced hotels that are gf with a safe/security box. Thanks for anyone who responds.

Best of luck, Wolverine.

My only trip to Haiti was in 1998 and I got on the next plane back to the US that I could find. The hotel, El Rancho in Petionville, charged me $180 a night. This was the only one recommended as being safe. There was a difficulty with communication, and I took 3 years of French in school. The streets are poverty with a capital P and looked like an A bomb had exploded. Beggers everywhere. Securtiy guards with shotguns everywhere. Cars left parked on the street at night were canibalized and stripped by the next morning. (Guys make sandals from the tires.) Traffic stopped for a funeral procession on foot, no hearse, of about 45 minutes. The only girls I found available were at the Crystal Palace and were from the Dom Rep and about $100. I must have been doing everything wrong. I was the only white guy I saw outside of the ones at the airport who were there on mission trips. I got the hell out of there on the next flight back to Miami the next day. Good luck!

Npaul is right because he entered the country at a specific layer where what he saw is the standard display. Whenever you go to EL Rancho, Montana etc. you'll pay big bucks and will face beggers since you can afford these expensive places. This place has less war guns that the post 9/11 america, less violence than Jamaica, but some violence exist while foreigners are not targeted.

Wolverine, If you are paranoiac, you may consider staying in the mentioned hotels but otherwise try Hotel Oloffson for sure they can hook you with a network of semi-pros (everything available). I have never use hotel service there hence cannot give detail on what they offer.

From the girl side, there a more & more free-lance organized lesbian show business running there, that will be your best bet with the ever increasing cost of living. From Santo domingo, a $75 round trip bus can bring you in Port-au-prince (Terra Bus or Caribe). Upon arrival some safe taxi drivers should be there trying to get business, just ask them referral for girls they will be glad to drive you around at nite. Furthermore people from these comanies will give you guidance on which tax driver to use. But beware they will try to lead you to dominican pro working in the city (too expensive in my view).
Age of consent is very loosely enforced, so the younger the cheaper, but make sure she appear to be adult. (no child thing here or you may face population judgment & sentence)

Stay covered & keep us posted

Thanks all for your candid responses. I have looked up Hotel Olafson(sp?) and it is too high priced. Oh well, I will go where hotels are cheaper, a little more safe and less blatant poverty though I am not easily intimidated, so the search continues for the next spot.

Wolverine, you might want to try guesthouses instead of hotels, cheaper more relaxed with guest, or try to rent an apart for the week.
There's also a small place fighting to break-even, you might try to bargain with them: Le marcelin Inn. It's located not far from Olofson.
Try also park Hotel next door to Le plazza Hotel. Both arein a SW marketplace (don't know if they are guest friendly).
Don't stay at places lower than rue Capois (in comparison to Petion ville)

Petionville Report:

Haiti is a black ghetto booty paradise for all you big ass lovers out there, myself included.

I stayed in the best hotel in Petionville (so as the locals say) - the Montana hotel in Petionville - $80 a night. The views off the balcony there oversee the entire Port-au-Prince area and the mountains in the background - very nice. I brought two girls back there - no problem bringing them in at all. Walked right past the front desk and security up the elevator to my room. Also, the local cabbie told me that you can bring girls back to the El Rancho hotel as well with no problem. El Rancho has a casino, while the Montana does not, but the Montana is less expensive but more upscale than El Rancho. Government officials, business people, and europeans stay at both places.

To get to the girls: the first one I brought back was from a club with all Dominican chicks that began with an M like Mirages or something similar located in Petionville. It's a pretty small place with the only clientele being a few foreign business people and some rich Haitians - no locals however. This is not a strip club, a stable of Dominican girls more or less and the girls dress like they would in any disco in the Domincan Republic. They have a couple of curtained rooms in the back for bj or similar action. All the girls are very,very young and looked no older than 18 but all were on a scale from 7-9. I chatted the one up with the biggest booty in the place at the time, we shared a few drinks, danced, and then bought her out of the place to bring back to the hotel. Buy out price is US$150 - sounds crazy I know - you could get five chicks or more for that price in the D. Republic and probably 10 street girls in Haiti. Anyway, this price was for the entire night and allows you as many times as you can get it up. Lots of french kissing and no rubbers for bj but rubbers for sex. She didn't want to try anal as she had the tiniest butthole but she had huge basketball sized cheeks. She was just too good. Left at 10:00 am. Great time but won't spend that kind of money again.

The other girl I had I found near El Rancho. She was an out of towner from Cap Hatien with an average booty, nothing special, however she had a big bush down below which I love. Brought her back and did a long single round in all different positions for 1,000 gourdes (about US$25), taxi included. Filled the rubber up with a big shot. Good experience and cheap.

My time was limited there but I did chat up 2 local chicks in the area when I took a walk from the hotel. Very willing to go with me back to the hotel, but I had to leave. Next time, which will be very soon, I'll hook up with the local girls. When time is a factor then I have to pay for it. People are very friendly, and language barrier not a problem at all - most know some basic english or spanish along with their creole french.

One major tip however: You Need To Rent A Vehicle! There are very few taxis and they're expensive. Driving isn't all that bad, although there's lots and lots of potholes and no street lights at night. If you have some balls when you drive in your home country and don't drive like a grandmother you will be fine. You can take a taxi from the airport to the hotel (US$20) and then order the rental car from the hotel which they will drop off for you. Simple and cheap. 4-wheel drive is best but not essential. This will allow you to drive and pickup girls in Petionville, Port au Prince, and the countryside whenever you want.

If you're breathing gets quicker when you see girls with big round black booty cheeks strolling around your hometown, then Haitian girls will cause you to have a coronary! Try some third world big booty for me.

Nice report. The expensive club you are referring to is Millenio, way too expensive. The best way to lower these over inflated price: ask for price & say it's too expensive that you'll buy somewhere else. That will force the price down. basicly only drug smugglers pay these prices.

1000 gourdes was reasonable for a first-timer. Next time try to buy a package (2 for 1500 gourdes or less). The more you are getting the cheaper they are, cause they know you can easily pick someone else.

Stay covered

Yes, Millenio, that's it. Strange people there, though I wouldn't say I felt out of place among them. These are cream of the crop dominican girls that are found here. Really young and none below a 7 I would say. Not fashion model types, but very young girl next door looks dressed mainly in tight jeans and clubbing outfits. It would be very easy to score there otherwise if you're young and handsome like myself, but the fact that the girls are property of the club and you have to buy them out of there makes it not worth it. However, if you had to live in Haiti, were too lazy to take a bus trip across the border, and needed a change from all the dark chocolate booty, this would be a solution, provided you bargained the price down quite a bit.

Hey bootylover: you stay in a private apartment, right. Would you have any recommendations on which apartments are best, as I'm going back soon and would like to do that. Petionville area would be best and when I was there I saw places that looked empty like no cars or whatever in the gated driveways that maybe people use only for vacation. Haiti isn't exactly all over the internet too, so it would be hard to find a place through the net. Didn't check the local papers while I was there, but that might be best. Also, does the apartment you stay in have reliable power as even the Montana had problems when I was there. I know at night most of Port au Prince, including Petionville has regular power outages, though the hours I spent at Millenio there were no problems.

Thanks. bob.

If you are after dominican girls, you have cheaper options:
1- M. Vincent on the way to Carrefour (Go often in your car and have some drink with a male friend.) Go there early around 7 PM up to 9H30 or Sunday around 2 PM. Why? all the below average you see were there in their prime time, you can have some real virgin there it's always a bargain compared to Millenio. hang there often for a beer they'll be your friends and you'll have to choose among many. P.S. Carrefour (less safe than Petion-ville) is the area where girl ten to be freakier.

2- There used to be some freelancers on Delmas road & Delmas 67 new fresh, who knows you may be lucky sometimes.

If i were there I'd hand you over some of my semi-pros

For those trying to find info, these might help:

http://hotelroomsplus.com/haiti/haiti.htm
http://www.myayiti.com/Hotels.htm

I'm still out of there. What's new on the market?

Will not get to go back until spring. I plan on exploring some of the north and the countryside this time around.

Bootylover, when is your next trip?

I'll be in sometimes around february & I'll keep you posted the action. I f you go to cap-haitian, you might face pricey ones because they have been spoiled by drug smugglers. The best course of action would be to ignore the pretty ones and to nail lower quality. This strategy will ensure that they will remain on low cash for extended time and will most likely settle for deflated prices

Yes, I agree. A big round perfect ass wins over a pretty face anytime for me. When I go back I'm going to visit Hinche, Jeremie, O-Cap, and Les Cayes. When I was in Petionville I bought a good creole-english phrasebook and road map that I'll practice with before I go back in the spring. Finding monster asses and anal in these towns will be easy and dirt cheap. I won't forget to pack my lube this time.

Once again chaos is brewing in Haiti. Was planning to go back in the next month or so, but will have to wait and see. It's a shame really that one has to risk their life for those perfect big round black Haitian booties.

You guys got to attach some pictures.

I usually go for the opposite (tight asian pink snapper) but your praise of the big butts got me thinkin'.

What's with the uprising going on down there Bootylover? I keep reading the news that the rebels have tooken over certain parts of Haiti.

When I caught light of this,I thought of Ya! you safe down there man?.More importantly,the women!

Here's another call for bootylover to post. Let's have some real frontline monger reporting.

NO good news guys, I'm still trapped in monger hell (USA) and I can hardly go there there these days. I'm starving in Boston where I gave the idea of chasing- too much constraints

Haiti sounds good! After Brazil and Thailand I want to try DR. Is it possible to go from DR to Port-au-Prince via bus? I would like to do it backpacker style. Are there cheap guesthouses available? I have seen some pics from Haitian girls and was quite impressed. Most of them seem to be unshaven and natural (that is how I like it)? Furthermore the prices sound very good.

Kuranyi

Roundrip bus fare should be around 75US$. Be careful these days

Its possible, but I hear the bus only runs once a day and takes a long time. Much faster to fly.

Guys,

For anyone who hasn't been to Haiti, it's very rugged. My recommendation is that you find a taxi driver who speaks a bit of english to take you around.

In any case, if you are so inclined, you can find the better talent in and around Petion-Ville. It's primarily street action, and you can also meet people at Harry's bar or Crystal. Both of these are clubs in the P-V area.

If you want to get away from the city, and visit a nice beach, my recommendation is to go to Wahoo Beach. The hotel is simple, but it's clean, and they serve very good food. It's roughly a 40 minute drive outside of PaP. A closer beach is Giloo, but it lacks the amenities of Wahoo.

Generally speaking, unless you are looking for a very 'raw' third-world experience, you can stay in DR and save your time/money. There are alot of Haitian girls around Santo Domingo.

PM for further inquiries.

Let’s set up a group for a trip to Haiti. We all have a common objective, and if we team up we are likely to succeed. We can look out for each other and share some of the costs. Maybe we can have Bareback Bob and BootyLover as our tour guides.

Haiti intrigues me, but it looks too challenging right now for a rookie going on his own.

I quit my plans to go to Haiti. Instead I went to DR and did some haitian girls there. My experiences were mixed. One thing is for sure: watch your belongings and I mean everything (one girl even stole my old glasses). The other thing was that most of them have a hairy pussy and many even hairy pits. One girl told me that they have to do this because if they shave, their mother could see that she works as a puta. Any infos about that?

Lucky you Kuranyi! I've in town for a few hours but couldn't scored cause I was on a very busy schedule. I did see these wonderful butts on my way from/to the airport. hopefully, on my next stop there, it will be different.

We should understand that culture and economics influence many aspect of SW life. In the third wolrd, women tend to be hairy for many reasons. It add to their appeal to local men and it prevents shaving expenses. So expect different type depending on where you chase.

Booty lover,

It is just a difference to many countries in the world where most of the women shave. For me personally it was a turn on because I like the variety of women and to me that makes them look even more feminine and unique. The world would be boring if all the women were completely shaved.

Hi,

I really want to go to Haiti for fun. Any suggetions?

KW Kids

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If I go to DR where is the best location to meet Haitian Women?

Sexual Intell,

Either Boca Chica or Sosua. There are many Haitians but most of them are hardcore pros and try to steal. There are some gems too.

I'll be in town soon for at least five days. I'll keep you posted

Friends,

I am very glad to see this kind of interest in Haiti as a place for booty hunting.

My one visit there was a very fulfilling one five years ago.

Nothing like the bubble butt babes of Haiti. The action was cheap and there were few problems finding my favorite action.

For example, you can participate in some good butt-pumping for about $20. Though it is not as easy as it might appear, anal sex is available in a bigger way than it is in Republica Dominicana.

I don't know about the political problems these days, but ass hunting was pretty easy some years ago. Thick, ripe butts for the taking at pretty good prices. Just remember that you will have to take your own condoms and lubricant.

Alan

Haiti is one of the few places I havn't been yet. I'm planning a trip this fall. I have a few questions:

Are ATMs available?
Where are the nightclubs and Go Go's?
Can you bring women to your room?
Do you absolutely need to travel by cab?
What are the costs for women?
Are there many foreigners mongering and where?

PM me if possible.

I am realy interested in Haiti. I know that thee is a lot of problems with teh country but that makes it more attractive and appealing to the adventurous like me. I think that this will also affect the price and bring it down a lot. I have lived and worked in several third world countries (i.e. Nigeria etc) and I believe that I am street wise enough. I am black which should help me blend in but the only disadvantage is that I know very little french of creo. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Hello,

I wish to explain my history:

A friend sent me a e-mail with the URL of a website where appear only amateurs black teenagers from Cuba,DR,Haiti.

I visited the site ([url]www.ricosworld.com[/url]) and I liked very much,lots of
pictures of babes showing all.

I love black girls and I falled in love with those site.

The trouble is that now the web is closed.What a pity!!!

Now I don´t can to copy the photos in my hard disk.

Here I send 2 pics from the site.

Since then I´m interested to visit a country like Haiti where there are

black girls with slim,tight body.

Someone can to give me advices?.

There are nightclubs in Haiti?.

Are the street girls available?.

Is dangerous to go there?.

Thanks you.

It's always dangerous to be in place where sex is sold period. when you are there:
- stop by Harry's to buy some foods and some semi pro pu$$y,
- Visit the nightclub across the dominican consualte in Petion ville
- Visit the skanky "Latin lovers" on delmas 47 for some lesbian show
- have a car for street action in petion ville the same hold true for lower price/standard in Delmas 45, 43, 41 and phone company office area
- stay in petion ville area and upper delmas, venture downtown only with aa good guide for cheaperoften better action
[QUOTE=HotTraveler]Hello,

I wish to explain my history:

A friend sent me a e-mail with the URL of a website where appear only amateurs black teenagers from Cuba,DR,Haiti.

I visited the site ([url]www.ricosworld.com[/url]) and I liked very much,lots of
pictures of babes showing all.

I love black girls and I falled in love with those site.

The trouble is that now the web is closed.What a pity!!!

Now I don´t can to copy the photos in my hard disk.

Here I send 2 pics from the site.

Since then I´m interested to visit a country like Haiti where there are

black girls with slim,tight body.

Someone can to give me advices?.

There are nightclubs in Haiti?.

Are the street girls available?.

Is dangerous to go there?.

Thanks you.[/QUOTE]

the reason rico's world is closed is becuase he has ****d girls on the site. i advise you to please delete pics that you may have downloaded from the site as well as the link here

thanks

It is really a pity that ricosworld does not exist any more.The pics from the haitian girls there were great.They are mostly totally unshaven.A lot of black hair under the armpits and on the pussy.Just like the girls have been 100 years ago before the razor was invented and most of the girls on the world think it looks better to shave everything.

It is a special type of girls there and not anybody likes it.I do.

I had the pleasure of some of these hairy babes in the DR. Any info where I can find a lot of them in the DR?The border towns maybe?

Kuranyi

[QUOTE=Kuranyi]It is really a pity that ricosworld does not exist any more.The pics from the haitian girls there were great.[/QUOTE]I'm not sre why you think it's no longer in existance:
[url]http://www.ricosworld.com/[/url]

I am among the ones who don't care for this type, not because of the hair, but, most of these girls are skanky. Ricosphats is preferrable to me.

@HarryDHo

You are right it is working again but it was shut down for a while.The partner site rica18.com is shut down.I do not like the phat ones but to everyone his own taste.

@ D Life

Please share your January 05 Experience with us. Did she introduce you to her friends?

Certainly Ricosworld is not a good representation of Haitian ladies. I met a couple very good looking ladies from Haiti when I was visiting Norfolk, VA. Someone tell me it ain't so.

Anyone know about safety issues these days in Northern Haiti. I'm planning a trip to the DR to Sosua in August. And I am thinking of crossing the border into Haiti.

I speak a little Spanish and French and I have been to Morocco twice(French speaking country).

Any survival tips out there?

Blue

[QUOTE=Blue Metal]Anyone know about safety issues these days in Northern Haiti. I'm planning a trip to the DR to Sosua in August. And I am thinking of crossing the border into Haiti.

I speak a little Spanish and French and I have been to Morocco twice(French speaking country).

Any survival tips out there?

Blue[/QUOTE]

Stay in the DR. It is not easy to cross to Haiti and it is lawless especially in PAP, and the road between the border with the DR and PAP is unsafe. French helps but they speak Creole which ain't the same.

Dear Grand Pollo,

Your point is well taken. I'm not suicidal. I’ll look into air travel. But I’m so curious. I’m very, very curious! :)

Yet and still despite the risk, I really want to see this country of Haiti. Not just to find girls, but really see the life of these people. Don't you think it would be fun? :) Fascinating? :) What’s happening in Haiti is soon to be historical!!!

It's still the Caribbean. The place is surrounded by blue water. Cruise ships still visit the North coast, do they not? Hundreds of young girls for cheap as well as most other commodities, on a sunny island, Exotic food and music and very few tourists to spoil the opportunities? Yes, I think I want to try that. :)

I want to find a place very cheap with a lot of action that I can return to many times. From what I’ve read in Haiti you can get laid faster than eggs in a poultry farm. It seems like Haiti is the place. Other places have been great for me but Africa and Eastern Europe I’ve decided is just too fucking long of a trip. And especially Morocco where is not necessarily safe either. I never identified myself as an American there. And I had a run in with Russian Skin-heads, and the Russian Mafia. So, risk wise, what’s the difference.

From what I read, foreigners are not being specifically targeted. I think these people understand that tourism is the only way to bring business back to their humble island. And there are still a lot of Americans who are still there.

Also I’m going to order the Pimsleur Creole course. Thanks for that advice as well!

What I would ask you if you know, what’s the North Coast like?

Your thoughts, anyone? :)

Blue Metal.

Will be there soon. I received emails that greek is more available, so i'm shopping for lube first. I'll keep you posted

Just got back from Haiti a few days ago.

At night in Port-au-Prince, you can hear gunfire (and automatic weapons) sporadically all night. Some areas are worse than others, with Petion Ville being (relatively) safe. It is NOT safe to take a taxi unless you speak the language like a native. Kidnappings are a viable source of income, and nobody should be getting into a car with someone who you don't know, or hasn't come highly recommended from a trusted source.

The power/electrical shortages continue, and the streets are VERY dark.

If you have a taste for Haitian women, you will find plenty in the DR. The current environment in Haiti is not conducive to skirt-chasing. Even the Brasilian-led UN peacekeeping force isn't inclined to wander into the various urban skirmishes.


That being said, there are still some of you who will want to go (probably be more motivated by the lure of danger). If you DO go, stay at a PV hotel and stick to the usual spots (Harry's, Krystal, etc). Leave the Oyster Perpetual at home, and head out to Wahoo or Kaliko Beach. Ensure that the hotel calls for a taxi for you, and that they make note of who your driver is....and DO NOT OVERPAY. Average Haitian earns $100 to $150 US$ per month. Keep that in mind.

Was in Port au Prince this week. Almost caught in a gun battle over an attempted carjacking. Met two friend that had close friends kidnaped over the weekend. The kidnapers were wanting $600,000US!! Who the hell has that type of money?

There was absolutely no mongering to be had. Haiti is NOT happen'in fellas. The D.R is right next door and a much better party atmosphere.

nice lovely pics in the pic section qnd I was going to ask about stability but I think you answered it nicely and especially now I would imagine new elections and all.

Haiti was a monger´s paradise before the U.S. stepped in and introduced "democracy". When Baby Doc was still in power there was tons of SW action, and a bunch of casas with chiquitas from the D.R. Cheap pussy all over the place, and you could walk anywhere and no one would touch you. No crime, no kidnappings. Why? One time I saw some guy who obviously didn´t know what his fate would be, try to grab a camera from a tourist. A ton of cops starting whacking the guy with sticks and guns. The police either practically killed him, or actually killed him because he wasn´t moving at the end. Instant justice in the streets. No democracy, but plenty of zoom zoom (as they say in Haiti).

I am curious...what would be the best areas to find Haitians in the DR?

[QUOTE=Concarne]I am curious...what would be the best areas to find Haitians in the DR?[/QUOTE]

You cannot, not find Haitian girls in the DR. Lots in Boca Chica.

If you want to find Haitians, the best place is along the Florida turnpike coming north from Miami. They work in all the rest stops and all have fat asses.

[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]You cannot, not find Haitian girls in the DR. Lots in Boca Chica.[/QUOTE]Very true. They are plentiful in North Coast mongering destinations as well- Puerto Plata and Sosua. If you are looking for campo haitianas check out the bateyes - haitian pueblos in the DR mostly originally created for cane cutting laborers. They exist in all the cane growing areas. Near PP Montellano has them. There is a bateye about 2km down the dirt road heading south right near Field of Dreams hotel across the road from Playa Dorada.

Bateye haitians are frequently undocumented - and are justifiably fearful of being arbitrarily grabbed by the police or military and dumped back over the border into haiti. Even people born in the bateyes who have lived their entire lives in the DR are not legally DR citizens. The chicas in the tourist areas have learned to cope with this but lots of haitianas back in the bateyes are shy of being out in regular dominican society.

the best way to get nooky in haiti is not from the *****s. If you are driving down the street and see something good you stop and ask her if she wants a ride. If so see if she wants to go with you to your room. If not get a phone number or give her your cell number. They love sex and believe me you will have the best time because they get into it. I have three regulars and they all three look great and have no problem swallowing. They think that is there duty. Stay in Petionville or up and down Delmars.

How do you fly from Miami? Is PAP safe these days?

Well,

Having arrived several weeks ago, I must say that the postings on this page are wholely misleading. PAP is a mongers paradise, and the women of Haiti are extremely well endowed, well versed, and of a very pleasant disposition.

I once heard it said that in poor countries, a man's personality is kept in his back pocket. This is true in PAP for sure. Clubs abound, Club-D, Esquina Latina, Extreme, Flamingo, Soft Lady, Off Limits, Jet Set, and many others.

Cost, try about G1,500/all night. Thats about 40G/$, so about $30.00. Try that in most places in the Western Hemisphere!

If you are traveling throught the streets of Peitionville, and get a smile, stop and say hi! Chances are that you will have a confidant for the evening, and beyond if you wish.

Is it safe in PAP, hell no! Is it safe if you know a friend who can get you your PAP (Sea) legs, hell yes!

If you can get here, come on down. It ain't no Santo Domingo, but it has a certain charm all it's own!

PD

Does anyone have a secure contact like a cabby or hotel manager's # for tours and what not in haiti? Any area, pap perferred.

[QUOTE=Huitzilopoch]Does anyone have a secure contact like a cabby or hotel manager's # for tours and what not in haiti? Any area, pap perferred.[/QUOTE]PM me and I can hook you up with a dude who can rock your world.

[QUOTE=Piledriver]PM me and I can hook you up with a dude who can rock your world.[/QUOTE]

Unable to PM you

What is the latest with regards to safety Haiti? I am getting mixed reviews. has anyone here ever used Caribe Tours to get from Santo Domingo to Haiti?

I've never been there but I'm interested. The buses from SD to Petionville take 8 hours or so and cost something like $75 US. I think that may include some of the border fees but I'm not sure. Both sides charge in either direction.

The US State department has a travel advisory warning of the specific threat of kidnapping. This is kidnapping for ransom not especially political. The advisory says 60 Americans have been kidnapped and there have been deaths and injuries. Most of them have been in the Port-au-prince area (which certainly includes Petionville which is the major center for foreigners as well as domestic elites).

On balance I think the only reasonably safe way to travel to haiti is to be embedded with some NGO, Mission, or other entity that is locally connected and knows what's going on. That and staying out of the P-au-P area. Neither is well suited to most travelers on this board.

Well I've been trying to go to Haiti for a few years now. I've been all over the rest of the Caribbean and for some reason Haiti still draws me.

However each time I get ready to go - I read all the warnings and end up backing off.

However with the fares being so low again - I took the morning and really scoured the internet for latest info.

The state department (US) has released a statement that will really scare the shit out of you. However if you go to other travel sites - like lonelyplanet and read their posts you'll find that many (or at least more than a few) people are indeed going and having a great/good/horrible time. BUT at least the threads aren't full of relatives asking for information or death notices.

I for one - just want to go to the Hotel Montana for 5 nights, swim in the pool, find a driver I can trust to go out to some of the nightlife, and I wouldn't mind driving around during the day to take some photographs..

Anyone who can give me some feedback about what clubs are available - what nightlife - would be fantastic.

Thanks!

I have just spent two months working in PAP and and the clubs in Petionville are alive and rocking. I usually went to Extreme and Barak and both have lots of p4p available with no bar fine. I had an apartment and no shortage of girls. Prices range from USD 15 to 100 depending on what you want and what you negotiate. Lots of SW after about 9 pm in several locations in Petionville. Streets are relatively safe if you are not taking stupid chances. Best to rent a car and drive around as there are not many Taxis.

If you are looking for a hotel I would recommend El Rancho. It has a casino and is close to the street and club action and is girl friendly from what I saw. Montana is also good but a bit farther from the action. Villa Creole is next door to the El Rancho and also good.

There are lots of good restaurants, La Soufenance is excellent. Also Quartier Latin, Brasallie, Cafe Albert, Boucain Gregoire, La Plantation. If you are in Port au Prince on a Wednesday night, the Petionville club has a happy hour that attracts a lot of the expat community and quite a few working girls and entry is free for everyone. Beer is USD2 and there is music for dancing.

If you go, rent a car at the airport or arrange for your hotel to pick you up. Taxis are scarce.

Speaking some French or Creole helps. Girls often quote prices in Haitian dollars so check when dealing. A Haitian dollar is 5 gourde or about US$0. 15. One hundred Haitian dollars ("cien dollar") is 500 gourde or about USD15. The Haitian dollar doesn't exist as a currency note but is widely used in stores and restaurants. The government is trying to get all prices quoted in gourde but its a slow process. Check price tags on goods. If it has a "$" then its in Hatian dollars, if a "G" its in gourde.

Just wanted to let you know that Haiti is getting safer and the mongering scene is great.

[QUOTE=Wine Guy]I have just spent two months working in PAP and and the clubs in Petionville are alive and rocking. I usually went to Extreme and Barak and both have lots of p4p available with no bar fine. I had an apartment and no shortage of girls. Prices range from USD 15 to 100 depending on what you want and what you negotiate. Lots of SW after about 9 pm in several locations in Petionville. Streets are relatively safe if you are not taking stupid chances. Best to rent a car and drive around as there are not many Taxis.

If you are looking for a hotel I would recommend El Rancho. It has a casino and is close to the street and club action and is girl friendly from what I saw. Montana is also good but a bit farther from the action. Villa Creole is next door to the El Rancho and also good.

There are lots of good restaurants, La Soufenance is excellent. Also Quartier Latin, Brasallie, Cafe Albert, Boucain Gregoire, La Plantation. If you are in Port au Prince on a Wednesday night, the Petionville club has a happy hour that attracts a lot of the expat community and quite a few working girls and entry is free for everyone. Beer is USD2 and there is music for dancing.

If you go, rent a car at the airport or arrange for your hotel to pick you up. Taxis are scarce.

Speaking some French or Creole helps. Girls often quote prices in Haitian dollars so check when dealing. A Haitian dollar is 5 gourde or about US$0. 15. One hundred Haitian dollars ("cien dollar") is 500 gourde or about USD15. The Haitian dollar doesn't exist as a currency note but is widely used in stores and restaurants. The government is trying to get all prices quoted in gourde but its a slow process. Check price tags on goods. If it has a "$" then its in Hatian dollars, if a "G" its in gourde.

Just wanted to let you know that Haiti is getting safer and the mongering scene is great.[/QUOTE]

Thank you man, great report!

Hey Wine guy!

Thanks for the update on Haiti, I am considering going there soon.

Other than mongering: any good beaches to kick it near POP? Other cities that may be worth checking out?

Thanks!

Concarne

No decent beaches close by. Jacmel has an OK beach but its a drive. Used to be a place called IBO beach, don´t know if it still exists nearer POP with bungalows and restaurant...swimming in mangrove colored water.

Guys,

What is the deal with money there? ATMs available or do I have to bring traveller's cheques or cold hard cash? What about credit card use in case of emergency?

TIA

hi fellas,

if anyone could contribute any answers to the below questions, i would greatly appreciate it. obviously, i'm considering haiti after reading this forum and doing some research.

1. i was wondering how far and how many minutes is petionville for port-au-prince?
2. how much would an middle to upper-class apartment / house cost for rent in both cities?
3. which city has the most action and is english / spanish-speaking friendly?
4. how much is basic car rental per day / month?
5. how is the electricity and high-speed internet service?

thanks alot.

I would love to hear the answers to Meatloafs request. I also would not mind knowing of other sources of info on mongering in Haiti...scant info in this place which I would have guess would be the one!

TIA

[quote=meat loaf]hi fellas,

if anyone could contribute any answers to the below questions, i would greatly appreciate it. obviously, i'm considering haiti after reading this forum and doing some research.

1. i was wondering how far and how many minutes is petionville for port-au-prince?
2. how much would an middle to upper-class apartment / house cost for rent in both cities?
3. which city has the most action and is english / spanish-speaking friendly?
4. how much is basic car rental per day / month?
5. how is the electricity and high-speed internet service?

thanks alot.[/quote]petionville is maybe 20 minutes from port-au-prince. it's virtually a suburb.

you can get a decent apartment for a few hundred us per month.

petionville has lots of english and spanish speaking girls, including dominican girls.

car rental, looking at at least $100/day

electricity is poor. you'd have to have at least an inverter and preferably a generator, too, as the state-run electricity is on maybe 4 hours a day. high-speed internet would have to be satellite, which runs around $60us/month.

[quote=lagocache]petionville is maybe 20 minutes from port-au-prince. it's virtually a suburb.

you can get a decent apartment for a few hundred us per month.

petionville has lots of english and spanish speaking girls, including dominican girls.

car rental, looking at at least $100/day

electricity is poor. you'd have to have at least an inverter and preferably a generator, too, as the state-run electricity is on maybe 4 hours a day. high-speed internet would have to be satellite, which runs around $60us/month.[/quote]ok, thanks. everything sounds good. a few more questions: (1) a generator (3, 000) that runs on gasoline is usually $300. is it that much more expensive there? (2) 4 hours of electricity per day? everyone sits around in the dark? that sucks. i'm having the same experience in nicaragua. (3) satelilite high-speed internet? what's that? is it easy to get connected? how many days for the installation? what companies provide this service?

thank you very much lagocache.

[quote=meat loaf]ok, thanks. everything sounds good. a few more questions: (1) a generator (3, 000) that runs on gasoline is usually $300. is it that much more expensive there? (2) 4 hours of electricity per day? everyone sits around in the dark? that sucks. i'm having the same experience in nicaragua. (3) satelilite high-speed internet? what's that? is it easy to get connected? how many days for the installation? what companies provide this service?

thank you very much lagocache.[/quote]1. i've honestly never bought a generator in haiti. most people i know buy them in the states and ship them over. but $300 sounds about right for a smaller generator.

2. everyone with the means has at least an inverter and if possible a generator. you'll never be fully in the dark in haiti.

3. satellite internet from hughes.net. here's a link for some basic info: [url]http://haitisatellite.com/ourservices_internet.php[/url]

If you are going to carry a girl to the room, it is best at the El Rancho. The Villa Creole manager is an asshole. He and I almost got into a fight because I brought a girl to the room and refused to open the door to the security guy. The Montana is too far from Petionville and you have to negotiate a deal with one of the security guys which you don' want to do. The El Rancho can get a little tricky. You can always take the girl to the casino or restaurant and slip to the room. It just depends upon the security guy on duty. Day time is no problem. I have about 28 years experience in Haiti. I will be living there permanently after this May. The girls are great. If anyone is going this later this month, I will be going March 27th for 10 days. If you don't know Haiti maybe we can get together and I can show you the ropes.

Badbear2000, you seem to be the man now. Pix are more than welcome

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]If you are going to carry a girl to the room, it is best at the El Rancho. The Villa Creole manager is an asshole. He and I almost got into a fight because I brought a girl to the room and refused to open the door to the security guy. The Montana is too far from Petionville and you have to negotiate a deal with one of the security guys which you don' want to do. The El Rancho can get a little tricky. You can always take the girl to the casino or restaurant and slip to the room. It just depends upon the security guy on duty. Day time is no problem. I have about 28 years experience in Haiti. I will be living there permanently after this May. The girls are great. If anyone is going this later this month, I will be going March 27th for 10 days. If you don't know Haiti maybe we can get together and I can show you the ropes.[/QUOTE]Badbear;

I'm also moving to Haiti/PaP end of April and interested in meeting/making all kinds of new friends, and learn the ropes. W/out becoming a paying member, Id sure like to meet you there: maybe seeking to meet atEl Rancho May 16, Friday PM or following weekend? Send back a smoke signal through this forum?

Safe travels then.

I want to go.

Show the ropes. I am in Los Angeles.

I am latino. Love love love... black women.

I met a white guy from Boston who is teaching in Haiti.

So he likes black pussy (cat) too.

So let me know more. You don't accept PMs?

I'm going for Memorial Day weekend, looking for a 'relaxing' weekend.

[QUOTE=Lagocache]I'm going for Memorial Day weekend, looking for a 'relaxing' weekend.[/QUOTE]I don't get in to live there until early May, presuming it doesn't come undone from food riots and the like. May have missed Badbear's March visit--any reviews please?.-, but I could like to meet other mongers there, particularly those who might like/know how to show me around. I don't do PMs from an expiring membership but propose U propose a good venue/place and time to meet during the months ahead.

Badbear, where are you?

I moved to PPrince at two weeks ago and want to get out and about, as soon as I get my wheels in order and have confidence I can manage the street, scenes, and hazards well enough.

Can you call me at 3-816-6012?

I'd be appreciative to meet/make new friends here!

Hey Sak Pase

Was in PAP fes days last month

Stayed at the El Rancho, first night went for a beer/dinner at Harrys pub. Pick one that loocked nice, but so so performance, about 1500 HTG (300 HT$) for TLN second nigth picked one at the casino door, look soso, attitude and service a bit better, but nothing to write home about, damage 2000 HTG

Used to have better, GFEish in PAP, haitians really hot and sweet, quite different swing/tone from DR babes, but this trip was too short to choose.

Nap boule

Enjoy

Badbear...
I really appreciate your organizing to receive private messages, and hope this one gets through: Yes...i just gotta get a bit of an inside track on this nice, nice country, people and ladies in it...I'm 44, divorced by some years, work here for the USG, live alone in a nice flat near Pietville. You know, much of the USG community here is socially and culturally 'locked' down and I'm convinced few have any good Haitian friends at all....and I, i just have to get beyond that...
..and beyond indefinite, but dicey, mongering prospects...

Your longterm friend of 28 years sounds almost as wonderful, if differently, than the lovely mulatto lady you shared a picture of some months ago...I'd like to meet them both. My French is better than most Americans but i haven't gotten into Kreole yet....

I'd be very appreciative if you could correspond with me and see if you can try to make arrangements. See if you can find.. monsieurgarcon followed by the great 'chez' signs comes suivi par 'courrierchaud' with those final three letters and my phone number here is 3-816-6012.

If you don't mind I am noting your number for when I get a chance to hop to haiti--hopefully very soon.

Lucky man you are. Lucky lucky.

USG is united stated government? Excuse the question.

It is sad if the others are very insulated.

I don't speak french though.

He speaks French so you will have no problem. I will get in contact with him and tell him to call you. His name is Sergo

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr]Badbear.

I really appreciate your organizing to receive private messages, and hope this one gets through: Yes...i just gotta get a bit of an inside track on this nice, nice country, people and ladies in it...I'm 44, divorced by some years, work here for the USG, live alone in a nice flat near Pietville. You know, much of the USG community here is socially and culturally 'locked' down and I'm convinced few have any good Haitian friends at all....and I, i just have to get beyond that...

..and beyond indefinite, but dicey, mongering prospects...

Your longterm friend of 28 years sounds almost as wonderful, if differently, than the lovely mulatto lady you shared a picture of some months ago...I'd like to meet them both. My French is better than most Americans but i haven't gotten into Kreole yet....

I'd be very appreciative if you could correspond with me and see if you can try to make arrangements. See if you can find.. monsieurgarcon followed by the great 'chez' signs comes suivi par 'courrierchaud' with those final three letters and my phone number here is 3-816-6012.[/QUOTE]

I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.

What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.

Can I move in with you?
I hate my job. I hate my life.
Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there.
I wish I could find a way, a job down there.
Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.

Can you help a guy out?

Thanks

Driedup -- in every sense of the word.

[QUOTE=DriedUp]I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.

What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.

Can I move in with you?
I hate my job. I hate my life.
Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there.
I wish I could find a way, a job down there.
Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.

Can you help a guy out?

Thanks

Driedup -- in every sense of the word.[/QUOTE]

Driedup-You really need french or kreole to find fair work here, if not a PhD. If you have a development/ngo background, it'd help. Many capable haitians looking for work can't find it. It's rather desperately expensive, unfortunately, to live here comfortably--just to tell you.

Badbear--Really appreciate your having Serge call me; tell me, too, what i might do for him, thanks!

I have had a business over the last 27 years back and forth in Haiti. I fhave been given the opportunity to manage a very large plantation which is about 100 miles from PAP. It takes about 15 minutes by plane or 5 hours by auto. I am working on a company to make regular flights to the plantation which is near a small city because the only way now is by charter which gets expensive. We have our own landing strip. The place needs lots of work and I am trying to get financing to run the plantation in a manner that will give lots of jobs to the Haitian people. I not only love the Haitian Girls but I love the Haitian people. I am living a miracle because of a Haitian Doctor that has been my friend for many years. I have a business involving the following Satelite TV, Satelite Internet, Electronic Scales from gram scales to truck scales, Security Cameras and now am looking at mfg Solar panels for Haiti and the DR. If you have a particular skill I'm me and lets talk. I will be retiring next May and will be there full time unless something breaks lose and I can get there sooner. The plantation will have facilities for all of us to live rent free and we will be growing our own food. I am looking at power for the place even though we have a 27 kwt generator with the cost of fuel it is too expensive but there is a plant that grows wild in Haiti called the Jatropha Curcas which bares a fruit that yields bio-diesel without any adjustments if it is used there where it is a hot environment. If we work together, we can all enjoy life and help other people in dire need.

[QUOTE=DriedUp]I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.

What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.

Can I move in with you? I hate my job. I hate my life. Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there. I wish I could find a way, a job down there. Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.

Can you help a guy out?

Thanks

Driedup.- in every sense of the word. [/QUOTE]

bb

I read your post. So here is a little about me.

I am hispanic, single, not averse to working with my hands.
37 years old.
B.A. in English from Columbia Univ. in NYC.
Currently living in southern california.
I have no children, no criminal record and no bills.
No cell, no car. Only debt I have to pay is to my dear mom
and the Lord.

Skills? I have been an editor, writer, office assistant.

Worked outdoors, following instruction.

Traveled to Ecuador, Central America, Cuba.

If you don't mind I would like to pay you a visit sometime.

I do not have a subscription here. It expired. Or else I would PM you.

Hello everyone.

I may be in Haiti during the next month or so and heard that Magdoos in Petionville was a hotspot. Is this true? If so, where is it exactly?

I never heard of it but believe me everywhere in Petionville can be a hotspot. I am going down the last of the month. Planning to leave on the 31rst of July and will be there until the 12th of August. Anyone interested give me a call in haiti at 3761-1111. Just to let everyone know the pics of Nancy were taken about 2 years ago.



[QUOTE=Ol Grandad]Hello everyone.

I may be in Haiti during the next month or so and heard that Magdoos in Petionville was a hotspot. Is this true? If so, where is it exactly?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I never heard of it but believe me everywhere in Petionville can be a hotspot. I am going down the last of the month. Planning to leave on the 31rst of July and will be there until the 12th of August. Anyone interested give me a call in haiti at 3761-1111. Just to let everyone know the pics of Nancy were taken about 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]

It's all good BB2000!

If you have some dated 20 years ago you can post them. I can assure you I will enjoy them to the fullest!

Thanks again!

I explained how I met her in the Photo section. And as Paul Harvey would say and now the rest of the story.

That first night was probably the best night I ever had. She was into what she was doing and loving it. When I started to suck her breast of was surprised with a mouth full of milk. I don't like breast milk but not to upset her, I swallowed. She laughed and said she had a baby that was only about 10 months old and she was still breast feeding. I asked her where the baby's daddy was and she said he was dead. Now alot of Haitian girls will tell you this because they do not want you to know they got pregnant out of wedlock. She would later explain the whole story and to my surprise which did not matter at the time was true.

After the first night from time to time after she got her baby to sleep so her younger sister could take care of him she would come down below my balcony and say my name very low so nobody in the area could hear her. Sometimes, I would be entertaining another and would reluctantly send her away. Sometimes I would send the one there away because like I said it was hard to beat Biggen. Because of the business I had, I needed electricity and the house even though it had an invertor would not hold up to days of no electrical power. I decided to move down near Aristide's area at the airport. At the same time I got her a job down on Route Nationale 1 which was not too far from my new house. After work she would come to my house and clean it because she did not want me to hire another maid (Nancy). Once a week she would wash my clothes. Sometimes I would give her my credit card and she would go to Delmars to buy various things for me. That was how much I trusted her.

After I left, the place she was working closed down but because of her experience there, she got a job with the U.N. She just got a promotion a couple of months ago. She needed to get her drivers license but need the $$ so she visited me at the hotel because I told her I would give it to her. She came and let me know that she was a Christian now and would only have sex with her future husband. After laying there with her head on my stomach I guess the temptation was just too strong as she slipped Mr Happy out of his shorts and started sucking on him. But I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.

To give you an idea of how naive these girls are, Biggen once asked me if she could get pregnant from swallowing my cum. All I could do was laugh. By the way, very few Haitian Girls will spit except for the professionals.

My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. We were going down town and saw this beautiful little sweetie walking and looking back in hopes of a ride. We gave her a ride down town as she was registering for some classes. She was beautiful. I gave her my telephone number and she gave me hers. After we let her out my son says, "Dad I would give her a call if I was you." My son is a very smart kid even at 19.

After my son went back to the states for school, I decided to give her a call and found out that she only lived a block from the Visa Lodge Hotel where I was staying. She agreed to meet me in front of her house. She lived with her older sister, younger brother, and older brother with his wife. She came and got in the car with her pajamas on. She just talked. Not even a kiss. She could not go with me but she would come to see me the next day which was Saturday.

She brought a friend with her which was another spinner. They wanted to use the pool so they got dressed in my bathroom. When they came out I thought I was going to get off just looking at the two of them. A couple of guys working with me on a system there almost lost their jollies. Later I would join them in the pool. I had one setting on each of my knees as I play with their ass's ver discretely as not to scare them off. The friend was actually her cousin and I got the feeling she was looser than my little friend.

Two nights later she showed up with her two brothers and sister wanting to take some pics of her at the pool as it was her birthday. She was 20. After the pics, they all left and there I set with my dick in my hand as I had rejected an offer from another girl that night because I thought I may score with my little Virgin. Of course at this time I did not know she was a virgin or I would have stopped there.


Several times she came but always had a brother or friend with her.

Finally one night she showed up by herself. We Watched TV and started to fondle a little. I finally got one of her tits in my mouth and let me say that was a mouth full. I reversed ends and started playing with her little nookie. When I decided to taste it she got a little nervous and took some persuading to let me get my tongue in that sweet thing. She then slipped Mr Happy out and started to sucking on it. My thoughts never even wandered to the thought she may be a virgin. She was to good with her mouth but when I tried to switch she would not let me. She said she did not want to get pregnant so I just laid back and let her finish me with her mouth. She swallowed and laid back and asked me if it was good and I said great.

Several trips later I finally got inside that tight little box and I had to be gentle because it was hurting her. This was when I learned she was a virgin. After several times she finally got into riding cowgirl which turned out to be her favorite spot.

Her uncle went back to New York and told her parents she was fooling around with an old man and they did not approve of it. We only met in secret after that for a while. But this last time I was in Haiti she came to my room and gave me all a man could ask for. Her body has not changed any. She is still slim with those huge tits. Now she can give deep throat.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. My son is a very smart kid even at 19.

[/QUOTE]



So is your son 13 - or 19 - hmmmmm.... Makes ya wonder... LOL

It's up in Pietonville, about 3 blocks west of Place St. Pierre. Another good place is Jetset, just north of the Place. Well, Badbear has us all 'whipped' with his stories, and he's right to say you can go to lots of places. I've lived here a few months and as you all know, it's pretty easy to find girls, but security has also been much dicier than even six months ago, so one really needs to take care. They have and will kidnap any and all kinds, so my counsel is not be too cavalier.... Finding...the 'very right' kind of girls...maybe something again, but with so much abundance one shouldn't worry for it. I have met some girls and have phone numbers. As badbear knows, often they like to come with another, a wonderfully stimulating, if draining experience.

When I met the virgin, my son was 13. Now he is 19 and going to college to be a lawyer. His mother is Dominican



My son is now 19

[QUOTE=Wicked Willie]So is your son 13 - or 19 - hmmmmm.... Makes ya wonder... LOL[/QUOTE]

BADBEAR,

Thanks for sharing all these FANTASTIC pictures and terrific stories of Haiti where the streets are paved with absolutely beautiful women! It's hard to believe that such a place exists.

But what about all those reasons that 99.9 percent of us won't go there? Are you working for a Haitian kidnapping ring to lure over a bunch of mongers to kidnap them and then demand ranson from their wives back in the states? LOL

But seriously now, I've visited the Dominican Republic several times over the past few years specifically to meet those lovely Haitian beauties that come across the border. I had good days and bad days....and on the good days I was not disappointed! Is it possible for a middle-aged white guy in cargo shorts with a digital camera and pocket full of money to have a good time without getting totally robbed or worse. The Haitian economy is the worse in the world and all those young Haitian men, like the women, are willing to do what it takes to get a few bucks to live and have a good time. Only part is that the men do could do it in a violently displeasing way! Like robbing you or worse doing a kidnapping! That's why we stay on the Dominican side.

Is it time to cross the border.....for a clear-headed, adventurous, but not naive monger? Any straight thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Thanks.

#2128

For a newcomer it is best to be with some one. I would not advise going ouy by yourself. Most of the

haitians are good guys. It is the ones that came to Miami and NY and ran with the gangs that have given Haiti a bad name. Also the few that Aristide gave guns and promised them the world if they would back him. I never heard of anyone getting kidnapped while they were with someone.



[QUOTE=Member #2128]BADBEAR,

Thanks for sharing all these FANTASTIC pictures and terrific stories of Haiti where the streets are paved with absolutely beautiful women! It's hard to believe that such a place exists.

But what about all those reasons that 99.9 percent of us won't go there? Are you working for a Haitian kidnapping ring to lure over a bunch of mongers to kidnap them and then demand ranson from their wives back in the states? LOL

But seriously now, I've visited the Dominican Republic several times over the past few years specifically to meet those lovely Haitian beauties that come across the border. I had good days and bad days....and on the good days I was not disappointed! Is it possible for a middle-aged white guy in cargo shorts with a digital camera and pocket full of money to have a good time without getting totally robbed or worse. The Haitian economy is the worse in the world and all those young Haitian men, like the women, are willing to do what it takes to get a few bucks to live and have a good time. Only part is that the men do could do it in a violently displeasing way! Like robbing you or worse doing a kidnapping! That's why we stay on the Dominican side.

Is it time to cross the border.....for a clear-headed, adventurous, but not naive monger? Any straight thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Thanks.

#2128[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. We were going down town and saw this beautiful little sweetie walking and looking back in hopes of a ride. We gave her a ride down town as she was registering for some classes. She was beautiful. I gave her my telephone number and she gave me hers. After we let her out my son says, "Dad I would give her a call if I was you." My son is a very smart kid even at 19.

After my son went back to the states for school, I decided to give her a call and found out that she only lived a block from the Visa Lodge Hotel where I was staying. She agreed to meet me in front of her house. She lived with her older sister, younger brother, and older brother with his wife. She came and got in the car with her pajamas on. She just talked. Not even a kiss. She could not go with me but she would come to see me the next day which was Saturday.

She brought a friend with her which was another spinner. They wanted to use the pool so they got dressed in my bathroom. When they came out I thought I was going to get off just looking at the two of them. A couple of guys working with me on a system there almost lost their jollies. Later I would join them in the pool. I had one setting on each of my knees as I play with their ass's ver discretely as not to scare them off. The friend was actually her cousin and I got the feeling she was looser than my little friend.

Two nights later she showed up with her two brothers and sister wanting to take some pics of her at the pool as it was her birthday. She was 20. After the pics, they all left and there I set with my dick in my hand as I had rejected an offer from another girl that night because I thought I may score with my little Virgin. Of course at this time I did not know she was a virgin or I would have stopped there.


Several times she came but always had a brother or friend with her.

Finally one night she showed up by herself. We Watched TV and started to fondle a little. I finally got one of her tits in my mouth and let me say that was a mouth full. I reversed ends and started playing with her little nookie. When I decided to taste it she got a little nervous and took some persuading to let me get my tongue in that sweet thing. She then slipped Mr Happy out and started to sucking on it. My thoughts never even wandered to the thought she may be a virgin. She was to good with her mouth but when I tried to switch she would not let me. She said she did not want to get pregnant so I just laid back and let her finish me with her mouth. She swallowed and laid back and asked me if it was good and I said great.

Several trips later I finally got inside that tight little box and I had to be gentle because it was hurting her. This was when I learned she was a virgin. After several times she finally got into riding cowgirl which turned out to be her favorite spot.

Her uncle went back to New York and told her parents she was fooling around with an old man and they did not approve of it. We only met in secret after that for a while. But this last time I was in Haiti she came to my room and gave me all a man could ask for. Her body has not changed any. She is still slim with those huge tits. Now she can give deep throat.[/QUOTE]

Hi BadBear2000!
I am looking for a good girl friendly hotel to stay next time I go to Haiti. From what you say here it looks like Visa Lodge Hotel is guest friendly.
What is their price range?

Thanks again for bringing this tread back to life!

Badbear is right about that, and where a good bit of the badness comes. Don't go out by yourself, really, particularly if you're only visiting and don't know at all where you're going.... I do it, but only very judiciously. I spend more time out by myself in the daytime--when chica can also be found..., checking out what i believe are safe steets scenes, football matches, some festivals..just to get haitian 'sea legs' and know how things should feel, i think...And if you really wear cargo shirts and the digital camera and flashing money...well, that's just asking for an international incident...so really, don't go out dressed conspicuously. I wouldn't even trust all the 'police' vehicles i see, though their presence is appreciated....What could be a good business here, for aspiring mongers particularly, is to have taxis and drivers and cars that you can rent reasonably and have some escorted 'cover' to get around in, but nothing like that exists just now...or it does, but for pretty, by haitian standards, exhorbitant rates.


[For a newcomer it is best to be with some one. I would not advise going ouy by yourself. Most of the

haitians are good guys. It is the ones that came to Miami and NY and ran with the gangs that have given Haiti a bad name. Also the few that Aristide gave guns and promised them the world if they would back him. I never heard of anyone getting kidnapped while they were with someone.[/QUOTE]

The Visa Lodge is Girl friendly but the area is not too good and it is hot during the summer months. I was doing a job there. It depends how long you are going to stay and your finances. If I am going to stay in Petionville and I have the funds I would stay at the El Rancho. If I wanted to spent from $35 to $40 per night I stay at the Imperial off Delmars. They have security, wireless internet, and a pretty good restaurant. When I was staying at the Vida Lodge, I was doing a contract for them and it was not costing me anything. The rates then were $70 plus screw you taxes. It is now $90 plus screw you taxes and the grand sons have taken over. They have changed the place quite a bit and I don't think for the good.

If you have a taxi or driver, you go up Delmars and keep your eye out on the right side. You will see a Sign saying Imperial Hotel. You will go down that street about 3/4 of a mile. There is secure parking and many of the Haitians visiting will stay there with their local honeys. Some of the wealthier Haitians will stay there out of sight from Friends and families. I think I may have been the only white guy there but I was treated with respect. I use to stay at a place up in Petionville for $35 per night but without any improvements they raised the price to $70 which I thought was ridiculous because it was one of the bring your ***** for a while hotel. It hardly ever had hot water and the TV sucked. The Imperial was very surprising to me as it was my first time. The rooms are small but hey if all you want to do is sleep and get Mr Happy taken care of it is a good deal. You can spend your money on the sweetie and not the hotel management. When one of the girls visited one of her men friends, she brought a friend with her. I immediately saw she was just killing time so I got her into my room. This was back in Feb this year. She was great. She even went and bought me some mangoes with her own money and tried to make me her regular but I knew I was leaving and just kinda brushed it off., Batteries on my camera were down and I forgot to bring my charger. So no pics of that honey. They are everywhere


[QUOTE=Papi0170]Hi BadBear2000!
I am looking for a good girl friendly hotel to stay next time I go toHaiti. From what you say here it looks like Visa Lodge Hotel is guest friendly.
What is their price range?

Thanks again for bringing this tread back to life![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The Visa Lodge is Girl friendly but the area is not too good and it is hot during the summer months. I was doing a job there. It depends how long you are going to stay and your finances. If I am going to stay in Petionville and I have the funds I would stay at the El Rancho. If I wanted to spent from $35 to $40 per night I stay at the Imperial off Delmars. They have security, wireless internet, and a pretty good restaurant. When I was staying at the Vida Lodge, I was doing a contract for them and it was not costing me anything. The rates then were $70 plus screw you taxes. It is now $90 plus screw you taxes and the grand sons have taken over. They have changed the place quite a bit and I don't think for the good.

If you have a taxi or driver, you go up Delmars and keep your eye out on the right side. You will see a Sign saying Imperial Hotel. You will go down that street about 3/4 of a mile. There is secure parking and many of the Haitians visiting will stay there with their local honeys. Some of the wealthier Haitians will stay there out of sight from Friends and families. I think I may have been the only white guy there but I was treated with respect. I use to stay at a place up in Petionville for $35 per night but without any improvements they raised the price to $70 which I thought was ridiculous because it was one of the bring your ***** for a while hotel. It hardly ever had hot water and the TV sucked. The Imperial was very surprising to me as it was my first time. The rooms are small but hey if all you want to do is sleep and get Mr Happy taken care of it is a good deal. You can spend your money on the sweetie and not the hotel management. When one of the girls visited one of her men friends, she brought a friend with her. I immediately saw she was just killing time so I got her into my room. This was back in Feb this year. She was great. She even went and bought me some mangoes with her own money and tried to make me her regular but I knew I was leaving and just kinda brushed it off., Batteries on my camera were down and I forgot to bring my charger. So no pics of that honey. They are everywhere[/QUOTE]

Thanks BadBear!
Very valuable info. Is Imperial around Delmas19 or Delmas 32?

Thanks again!

No, it is much closer to petionville


[QUOTE=Papi0170]Thanks BadBear!
Very valuable info. Is Imperial around Delmas19 or Delmas 32?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]No, it is much closer to petionville[/QUOTE]

Thanks BadBear,

I think a taxi driver should know where it is. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to go there?

Yes, they should know. If nit just tell them to go up Delmars and watch for the big sign on the right side. The price use to be $20 U.S. but with the prices of fuel it is hard to say but I would not pay more than $30. Haggle with them, argue with them. Start off at $20 and don't back down until you absolutely see there is no chance. Do you know when you are going. If my friend gets his car running he would probably be even a better bet. Or if I am there we can handle it. Just let me know when you are going and I will try and have him at the airport. You can just hold a cardboard sign with his name on it so he could recognize you. I use to have a friend that was a good cab driver and tourist guide but I lost his number a long time ago,

[QUOTE=Papi0170]Thanks BadBear,

I think a taxi driver should know where it is. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to go there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Yes, they should know. If nit just tell them to go up Delmars and watch for the big sign on the right side. The price use to be $20 U.S. but with the prices of fuel it is hard to say but I would not pay more than $30. Haggle with them, argue with them. Start off at $20 and don't back down until you absolutely see there is no chance. Do you know when you are going. If my friend gets his car running he would probably be even a better bet. Or if I am there we can handle it. Just let me know when you are going and I will try and have him at the airport. You can just hold a cardboard sign with his name on it so he could recognize you. I use to have a friend that was a good cab driver and tourist guide but I lost his number a long time ago,[/QUOTE]

Thanks BadBear2000!

I have some other commitments that won't allow me to go there until October or November. I will surely get in touch with you when I have everything ready.

Thanks again!

No problem as I am sure I will be there by that time.


QUOTE=Papi0170]Thanks BadBear2000!

I have some other commitments that won't allow me to go there until October or November. I will surely get in touch with you when I have everything ready.

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.

1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.

5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.

Good luck to all

I can also offer another, nuanced answer as Im a resident forpast three months. dont know it as well as Badbear but...

Imperial sounds great, and not a lot of other spots like it. Most places are much more expensive. Bear's refs for eating are good ones, but 'better' restaurants cost closer to real US city prices, except for beer. For the quality of life you get, Haiti's is expensive, even the better souvenirs, i think.

Bear's right that girls are plentiful and security concerns exagerated, a bit. Still, even yesterday a car with plates marked from the National Palace was seen doing a kidnapping, even a girl i know damn near got taken past week. Private motorbikes could be best way to get around as a private visitor, but I'd be careful about it, and travel with another if you can.

I haven't quite simply waved girls over to sit with me, but you might as well. Bear's inspired me to start my own photo collect; i haven't posted any yet and had no idea they would like to have so many taken, and proud to be so sexy. Come then, but be smart about it. Ive lived in some rough places and Haiti requires some street smarts.


[QUOTE=BadBear2000]It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.

1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.

5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.

Good luck to all[/QUOTE]

Good report Global Nomadrr! Very informative!

I hope you give some more detail about the mongering scene, and a whole lot of pictures!

Give us a run down about the girls in the picture.

Thanks! Keep the pictures coming!



[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr]I can also offer another, nuanced answer as Im a resident forpast three months. dont know it as well as Badbear but...

Imperial sounds great, and not a lot of other spots like it. Most places are much more expensive. Bear's refs for eating are good ones, but 'better' restaurants cost closer to real US city prices, except for beer. For the quality of life you get, Haiti's is expensive, even the better souvenirs, i think.

Bear's right that girls are plentiful and security concerns exagerated, a bit. Still, even yesterday a car with plates marked from the National Palace was seen doing a kidnapping, even a girl i know damn near got taken past week. Private motorbikes could be best way to get around as a private visitor, but I'd be careful about it, and travel with another if you can.

I haven't quite simply waved girls over to sit with me, but you might as well. Bear's inspired me to start my own photo collect; i haven't posted any yet and had no idea they would like to have so many taken, and proud to be so sexy. Come then, but be smart about it. Ive lived in some rough places and Haiti requires some street smarts.[/QUOTE]

Global,

Thanks for your report. With the recent posts of BB2000, and your latest addition, this board has a lot of people considering taking a trip to Haiti.

Good show!

P.D.

Hello BB,

Thanks for the info. I was going to try to visit both the DR and Haiti. I'm trying to figure out what is the best mode of transport while there. Any other place that I visit outside the US, I fly in, rent a car, and find a hotel on the fly. I don't do a lot of planning and use the car a lot to find hot spots. But it sounds like car rentals and fuel are very expensive down there.

Do you know about the bus ride from the DR to PAP? Is it safe? Do you have to get off the bus at the Hatian border and have your passport stamped? etc... Do you have any input on the best way to travel once on the island? How would you do it?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.

1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.

5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.

Good luck to all[/QUOTE]

The bus ride is very pleasant. They have movies and serve a meal while you are in transit. You will have to stop at the border on both sides but the bus line takes care of all the crap. You will have to open your bags when entering the DR much like when you arrive at the airport. The bus personnel will handle the passport stamping. All you do is stand there and wait for your name to be called and then go back to the bus. You will have to go through this on both sides of the border. The bus trip takes about 6 hours but you will see alot of interesting scenery. I will be traveling on a bus from Haiti to the DR on the 18th or 19th of August. Carribe Tours or Terra Bus either one is good even though I am partial to Carribe Tours. In the DR car rental is not too bad but you are better off to get a trust worthy taxi driver as you are only paying him when you are on the move whereas if you have a rental you are constantly paying. If you want to stay in Santo Domingo I recommend the Maison Gautreaux as it is just of the Malecone or board walk. It is located at Felix Mariano Lluberes # 8 Gazue or if you want you can have the taxi call this number for directions 809-412-7837. In Haiti, I still recommend the Imperial Hotel off Delmars. But there rental cars are very expensive and for a new comer it is difficult to drive. I still recommend the motor cycle guys since they are cheap and will get you there in a hurry I have a taxi driver's name and number in the DR and I will have a driver's name in Haiti next week if you want to message me.



[QUOTE=Clamhunt]Hello BB,

Thanks for the info. I was going to try to visit both the DR and Haiti. I'm trying to figure out what is the best mode of transport while there. Any other place that I visit outside the US, I fly in, rent a car, and find a hotel on the fly. I don't do a lot of planning and use the car a lot to find hot spots. But it sounds like car rentals and fuel are very expensive down there.

Do you know about the bus ride from the DR to PAP? Is it safe? Do you have to get off the bus at the Hatian border and have your passport stamped? etc... Do you have any input on the best way to travel once on the island? How would you do it?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.

Considering a trip very soon.

The kidnapping is not as bad as they say. However it does happen sometimes. I have never felt insecure. It is best to be with someone. If you are new, I would not travel alone on some roads but during the day in Petionville and up and down Delmars there should be no problem. I think the economy needs to be improved to stop many of the problems.[

QUOTE=Don Smith]A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.

Considering a trip very soon.[/QUOTE]

Your question is painfully broad, for those who've worked on the Haitian development problem for some time. Good governance is a real pre-condition for national progress, but self-interests, the terrible economy and food security crisis are the more tangible pre-occupations, and why there is a good deal of kidnapping--which won't happen to you if you follow common sense, keep a low profile, and Badbear's counsel. What needs to happen is donors staying the course, more private sector/Haitian diaspora involvement and investment, and the forces of reason within what little broader government Haiti has...prevail.


[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The kidnapping is not as bad as they say. However it does happen sometimes. I have never felt insecure. It is best to be with someone. If you are new, I would not travel alone on some roads but during the day in Petionville and up and down Delmars there should be no problem. I think the economy needs to be improved to stop many of the problems.[

QUOTE=Don Smith]A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.

Considering a trip very soon.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

I have not had a chance to play any this trip but now that my jobs are complete I plan to play. If there is anyone here that would like to talk with me give me a call at 3761-1111

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I have not had a chance to play any this trip but now that my jobs are complete I plan to play. If there is anyone here that would like to talk with me give me a call at 3761-1111[/QUOTE]

I wholeheartedly sympatize with the people of Haiti with all that is taking lace there now after being hit by Tropical storms and Hurricanes.

Bad Bear2000 and others that are in Haiti now, I know you are probably busy, but let us know how the people there are coping. I wish them a prompt recovery.

Papi

Guys, I will be back in Haiti in the next month. Plans are to be staying soon. I will fill you up with pics then. Just be patient. I will try to make you horny old guys get such a hard on that you will just have to make a trip to the land of honey. Or is that honeys

Hey guys
A few things to keep in mind. This was my third trip to Haiti with many more to come in the future. I am a middle aged white guy, speak limited Creole (I'm learning) but decent French. I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha). I am not an aficionado specifically of black girls (any color is OK with me).

The BAD:
- A US standards hotel will run you $75US a night + heavy taxes so it comes out to about $85+ a night. See photo below for where I stayed in Petionville. There are cheaper ones. I tried one that was recommended by a member. It had a pool and a decent restaurant, but the rooms were small and dank. It was however cheaper at $48 a night. I had no real problem with it but I suspect alot of others would. I moved to the one in the picture below as it was only 2 blocks from the CaribeTours bus station and I had to catch an early morning bus the next day.

- Driving is impossible if you don't know you're way around. I have driven in the DR, Cuba, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, etc but would NOT drive in Haiti. Besides being lawless as far as obeying any kind of road rules, road signs are scarce and many times a road is called something other that what it says! Plus, gas is expensive and traffic is unbelievably heavy in PAP. I rode the tap-taps which was very cool but I would have NEVER been able to navigate the system without the local I was with.

- Food can be expensive. Restaurants on par with US restaurants are more expensive than here. However, with a little digging, you can find decent places with good food that won't get you sick. I can tell you that Haitian Creole cuisine is EXCELLENT and would say that the food in Haiti is better than anywhere else in the Caribbean (PS I was in the restaurant business for many years).

- The garbage (Haitis government offers almost no services) takes a little getting used to. It's everywhere but remarkably, the city smells pretty good as the ocean breezes whisk it away. Also, the poverty takes a little getting used to. We've all seen poverty on our travels, but this will probably be worse than you have ever seen outside of Africa.

The GOOD:
- It's easy and cheap to get to from the US. AA flies direct from Miami several times a day. I also understand there are direct flights for you Euro boys. Customs was a breeze with absolutely no hassles or questions. Be sure you have pre-arranged transportation from the airport to wherever you are going. Also, if you go to the DR, the bus ride back and forth to PAP is only about 5 1/2 hours and painless.

- Safety was a non-issue. I never felt threatened or that I was ever in any kind of danger. I'm from NY and can usually smell trouble a mile away. Can it happen? Sure, but it can also happen in Anytown, USA just as easy.

- AIDS prevelency is <3% in Haiti according to a WHO report which in relation to say Cuba (0.6%), is quite high. However, you shouldn't be barebacking ANYWHERE in the world. The girls I was with were not street ho's, I always kept it covered and never really worried. I bet if you measured the AIDS prevelency among pro girls you fuck in other Latin American places (Sosua, Medellin, Rio), you might get higher results. Just food for thought.

- Haitians are REALLY nice people. They don't smile much on their own, but one smile to them and they beam. They will normally bend over backwards to help you. I never felt threatened at all during the day but also wasn't out much at night. I found Rio to be much more dangerous. Just practice your street smarts (don't be flashy, be respectful of others, walk with confidence, etc) and you'll be fine.

- The girls are PHENOMENAL. These are marrying quality girls. Sure you could go to Petionville at night and pick up a prostitute, but why bother? All you really need to do is smile and approach them (see BadBear 2000's reports....they're right on). Guys, these are sweet, hard working, loving girls who will absolutely rock your world. They are very conservative when you meet them as Haiti in general is a conservative society and conscientious of what people think about them (ie the neighbors and family). But man, when that door closes...watch out. Anything goes :)
BTW, a typical non-pro Haitian girl will be very happy if you treat her nice and give her $15 - $20 US dollars for the afternoon :)

Alright, now I know that alot of you guys read this board but a very small percentage of you will actually ever go. Haiti is difficult but not impossible. I will be back next month and am looking to put together some ex-pats and trusted locals who can put together some trips. They would include:
- putting you up in nice, girl friendly hotels
- having transportation w/ drivers available
- having translators on site
- making you feel comfortable
- and of course introducing you to a bunch Haitian sweeties.

Why? Haiti got a bad rap from the 2004 troubles with the kidnappings, etc. Haiti is great if all the elements are in place and needs tourist dollars. Besides, what's wrong with discovering a new place and having some fun?

La Isla,

Excellent report; thank you for posting. The only thing I found surprising about your report was your statement that you felt perfectly safe all the time. I'm not disputing you--after all, you've been there and I haven't--but I'm still surprised. Haiti is one place I have avoided because I thought it would be unsafe (and to put this in context, I am a fairly intrepid traveler and don't scare easily, but Haiti has scared me). Maybe I need to rethink that.

So, just a couple of questions. 1) Did you go alone? BadBear2000 has cautioned several times against traveling to Haiti alone. Do you disagree with that? 2) I have read that the greatest danger lies in coming in from the airport, and several travel writers caution against taking a taxi from the airport, recommending instead that you have someone who knows you, or your hotel, pick you up. How did you get into PAP from the airport (or did you travel overland)?

Thanks. Any information would be appreciated.

L

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]La Isla,

Excellent report; thank you for posting. The only thing I found surprising about your report was your statement that you felt perfectly safe all the time. [/QUOTE]
Like I said too, "I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha)."

[QUOTE]So, just a couple of questions. 1) Did you go alone? BadBear2000 has cautioned several times against traveling to Haiti alone. Do you disagree with that? [/QUOTE]
I did go alone, but had arranged for others on the ground to meet me. I had a great time but it would have been very, very difficult if I did not have those connections. Hence, the idea to talk with those guys about escorting others in the future. In the end, its a couple of hundred bucks more but they are happy, I'm happy and Mr Happy is happy :)

[QUOTE] I have read that the greatest danger lies in coming in from the airport, and several travel writers caution against taking a taxi from the airport, recommending instead that you have someone who knows you, or your hotel, pick you up. How did you get into PAP from the airport (or did you travel overland)?[/QUOTE]

Again, I had the guys meet me and pick me up. I have also been to Cap Haitian in the past. In the future, I'd like to explore Jacmel, Gonaives, etc. Also, don't forget that Haiti has some seriously beautiful mountains and coastlines. If PAP is the most dangerous place in Haiti, I can only imaging how friendly the other areas must be.

There is no way that you can travel to Haiti without good transportation, a working knowledge of Creole and someone on the ground and have a good time. With those factors in place, Haiti can be great. Thus it bears the question, would you pay a couple of hundred bucks more to have all those elements in place? Judging by how much you guys pay to go to some of the other places mentioned on ISG, I would say "yes". If so, Haiti is an exotic, beautiful locale with some really sweet girls.

I keep trying to tell all of you. I feel much safer in Haiti than many cities in the U.S. I will be going this next month for a month. I will then return to the states for approximately 2 weeks before I go back to stay. If I worried about my safety, I surely would not go back to live. And the girls are great. They love sex and you are actually better off to stay away from the SWers. They are too commercial. I had a friend from England who found the great girl at one of the Dominican Houses. He shacked up with her for several months. Then one day he asked her why she was better in the sack when he first met her and she said that was commercial. So he ask her for a quick advertisement. The normal Haitian girls are better than the SWers because they are trying to win your heart. They know if they can win your heart, they may have a chance to get out of Haiti. Let's face it. When the ratio of girls to boys are like 7 or 8 to 1, what chance do you think they have of getting hitched with a good guy in Haiti. Don't worry just be happy between the legs of a hot Haitian babe.


[QUOTE=La Isla]Like I said too, "I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha)."


I did go alone, but had arranged for others on the ground to meet me. I had a great time but it would have been very, very difficult if I did not have those connections. Hence, the idea to talk with those guys about escorting others in the future. In the end, its a couple of hundred bucks more but they are happy, I'm happy and Mr Happy is happy :)



Again, I had the guys meet me and pick me up. I have also been to Cap Haitian in the past. In the future, I'd like to explore Jacmel, Gonaives, etc. Also, don't forget that Haiti has some seriously beautiful mountains and coastlines. If PAP is the most dangerous place in Haiti, I can only imaging how friendly the other areas must be.

There is no way that you can travel to Haiti without good transportation, a working knowledge of Creole and someone on the ground and have a good time. With those factors in place, Haiti can be great. Thus it bears the question, would you pay a couple of hundred bucks more to have all those elements in place? Judging by how much you guys pay to go to some of the other places mentioned on ISG, I would say "yes". If so, Haiti is an exotic, beautiful locale with some really sweet girls.[/QUOTE]

Hey La Isla!

Thanks for the good report. Thanks for the pics. I hope you have more.
What's the name of the hotel shown in the pictures? It looks very nice, and if it's close to Caribe Tours office it sounds ideal. I might try to go to Haiti from DR. I am looking into that. Keep the photos coming!

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=La Isla]I moved to the one in the picture below as it was only 2 blocks from the CaribeTours bus station and I had to catch an early morning bus the next day. [/QUOTE]Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.

[QUOTE=Lagocache]Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.[/QUOTE]

Man, I'm having a brain fart on the name. I'll see if I can find my receipt. No, that was not the Imperial on Delmas. I did stay there also, but this one was nicer (but more expensive).

Go to the photo section 8/19 to see the Villa Imperial. I am not famiar with the other


[QUOTE=Lagocache]Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.[/QUOTE]

Alright. Well I think I'm pretty much decided on the Kinam. From everything I see I should be able to get a room for around $80, and I've eaten at the restaurant there a number of times so I'm already familiar with it. I'd rather pay a little extra and know what I'm getting into than try to save a few bucks and roll the dice. Besides, my girl lives in Petion-ville, anyway, so it just makes it easier all around.

Thanks for your help, guys.

Lagocache,
It's good to know you are going sown to Haiti. Get plenty information about all you can, hotels, restaurants, transportation, girls, etc. Take a lot of pictures, and make sure you ENJOY yourself my man!

Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks[/QUOTE]

FYI, they speak Creole there. Some of the more educated people speak French. Unless they've lived for a time in the DR, they DO NOT "speakie Spanish".
IMHO, its a tough place to be with no contacts and no language skills.

I can tell you now. The Kinam is good but it is not girl friendly. You would have to take her in during the day and keep her there until the night if you want an all nighter. I have done that before. The El Rancho is nice and it is more Girl Friendly but I have heard of another place that is cheaper. in Petionville



[QUOTE=Lagocache]Alright. Well I think I'm pretty much decided on the Kinam. From everything I see I should be able to get a room for around $80, and I've eaten at the restaurant there a number of times so I'm already familiar with it. I'd rather pay a little extra and know what I'm getting into than try to save a few bucks and roll the dice. Besides, my girl lives in Petion-ville, anyway, so it just makes it easier all around.

Thanks for your help, guys.[/QUOTE]

I will be in Haiti Saturday night and expect to get my camera burning from the hot nookie along with Mr Happy

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I can tell you now. The Kinam is good but it is not girl friendly. You would have to take her in during the day and keep her there until the night if you want an all nighter. I have done that before. The El Rancho is nice and it is more Girl Friendly but I have heard of another place that is cheaper. in Petionville[/QUOTE]I checked in a little before 11 Am and she came around 12:30. She just walked right up to my room and then we didn't go out to the pool together until night time when the morning staff had gone home. So we had no problems. For future reference, though, what is this other place you've heard of in P=Ville that's cheaper?

Hi Lagocache, Bad Bear2000, and any other fellow down there now or going to Haiti soon, get lots of info and pictures, pictures, and more pictures. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I will be in Haiti Saturday night and expect to get my camera burning from the hot nookie along with Mr Happy[/QUOTE]

Good to hear that since I happen to be there.

I'm not really a monger, just come around here checking things out and trying to find decent hotels. But I will say that Petion-ville at night is very active with SWs, and security is a little better than it's been in recent years. 7 years ago I'd come across maybe 3 corners with some SWs in Petionville. On Monday night it seemed like every corner I drove past had at least 2 or 3 girls looking for work. Everything from dark-skinned to light-skinned, mostly young, very eager for work.

[QUOTE=BootyLover]Good to hear that since I happen to be there.[/QUOTE]
Hey BootyLover my man!

It's been a while! What are you up to? I thought you gave up on this thread. I am looking forward to a lot of pics from all of you guys down there now.
Thanks

I am looking forward to visiting PAP Nov 5 to 9 and I wanted some info on picking up a taxi from the airport and getting a phone to use while I am there? Where would I get this? Sounds lie the Imperial is the hotel of choice but where to pick up chicks?

Is there any way to book this hotel online or any of these hotels?

What is the best way to book these places?

[QUOTE=Wild Boy]I am looking forward to visiting PAP Nov 5 to 9 and I wanted some info on picking up a taxi from the airport and getting a phone to use while I am there? Where would I get this? Sounds lie the Imperial is the hotel of choice but where to pick up chicks?[/QUOTE]

You might rent a phone right from the airport or your best bet is to bring your own unlocked gsm phone (1800to 1900 MHZ) and head to a Digicel store. Yellow cabs are available from the airport and picking spots are everywhere, only pros have special spots.

online booking???????? you must be kidding

I lived in Haiti for two years and found that though creole is the local language, many of the WG have experience in the DR and do speak varying levels of Spanish.

Cheers,

MD65

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks[/QUOTE]

I am just posting some pics of a gal a friend of mine told me about. She is not a pro. She just likes to F**K. Gave great head and took it in every hole. 19 years old spinner. God its great to be back.

Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?

Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself!

I live here and don't think renting a car is necessary, if you don't mind befriending some dude off the street who's got a motorbike to take you on. Offer him a retainer of..i don't know...3-400/gourdes/hour to be at your disposal. A better one can take/guide you around to sites and driving these streets and traffic is just too dangerous and disorienting for a visitor. BadBear's hotel is a good spot to be, or you could spend more at El Rancho and find some action in the casino on a saturday, i am told. Badbear prefers waving at them right off the street, and they--incredibly really, and I live here--often come to him, not pros either. Now, not speaking any french or creole won't make it very easy for you, but hotel and some restaurant staff will understand. It's fun, and safer than its reputation, but don't dismiss security concerns. Haiti is shakier, i think, than it appears to be. And be Nice to the girls, okay?, 'cause they are to us, but don't entirely pamper and spoil them either.




[QUOTE=Wild Boy]Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?

Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself![/QUOTE]

call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole.


[QUOTE=Wild Boy]Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?

Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself![/QUOTE]

Just the news I wanted to hear and I will be there maybe Nov 5-9. I will call you soon and thanks for your number i will call you!

La Isla & BadBear,

You both provide very good information, useful information about the area.

La Isla.- You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language.

Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish?

Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)?

I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole?

I have traveled in Asia for some years and non being able to communicate does not bother me, aside from being able to negotiate or come to an understanding with a lady. I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.

Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses.
[QUOTE=La Isla]Hey guys

A few things to keep in mind. This was my third trip to Haiti with many more to come in the future. I am a middle aged white guy, speak limited Creole (I'm learning) but decent French. I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha). I am not an aficionado specifically of black girls (any color is OK with me).

I will be back next month and am looking to put together some ex-pats and trusted locals who can put together some trips. They would include:
- putting you up in nice, girl friendly hotels
- having transportation w/ drivers available
- having translators on site
- making you feel comfortable
- and of course introducing you to a bunch Haitian sweeties.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole.[/QUOTE]


Wow, Bad Bear, I must confess my sincere admiration for you conquests and photography. You are my hero!!!
I have been to Sosúa a couple of times but I only really liked the Haitian girls. Thus, instead of going to Sosúa, why not go directly to Haiti instead of Sosúa? I speak French quite well and can even go by comfortably in Krèyol and so communication with the girls would be no problem. I will be going there in August for about 5 days (more is impossible, unfortunately). My only worry is having the contacts figured out as far as transport between the airport and the hotel. Security and safety also figure most highly for me since I don't know the place like you. I am sure that trailblazers like you will convince people like me to give Haiti a try.

I certainly hope that you will be around in August 2009.
I like slim, svelte girls that eschew razors. I assume finding them is easy from what I gather from your reports

The only reason I would not be here then is if I was dead




[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Wow, Bad Bear, I must confess my sincere admiration for you conquests and photography. You are my hero!!!
I have been to Sosúa a couple of times but I only really liked the Haitian girls. Thus, instead of going to Sosúa, why not go directly to Haiti instead of Sosúa? I speak French quite well and can even go by comfortably in Krèyol and so communication with the girls would be no problem. I will be going there in August for about 5 days (more is impossible, unfortunately). My only worry is having the contacts figured out as far as transport between the airport and the hotel. Security and safety also figure most highly for me since I don't know the place like you. I am sure that trailblazers like you will convince people like me to give Haiti a try.

I certainly hope that you will be around in August 2009.
I like slim, svelte girls that eschew razors. I assume finding them is easy from what I gather from your reports[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The only reason I would not be here then is if I was dead[/QUOTE]


That is certainly good news and a very, very, very long life to you!!!! I think that you may have helped kindle an intense interest in Haiti.

As August 2009 approaches, we will be in touch either through the board or by private message

One question, where you are, is it the case that you just go down the street, eye a girl, call her over and ask her whether she'd like "to get down"? I really would like to meet girls like your "Nancy"!!!

Also, you have mentioned that one should not "be flashy". I suppose that means no Rolex watches, suits, or expensive jewelery but would nice Dockers and a Ralph Lauren or Lacoste shirt also be "too flashy" for Haiti and an invitation to be robbed, kidnapped, or worse? I am speaking out of ignorance.

Keep up the good work!!!!

[QUOTE=Midnightio]La Isla & BadBear,
You both provide very good information, useful information about the area.
La Isla.- You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language.
Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish?
Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)?
I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole?
I have traveled in Asia for some years and non being able to communicate does not bother me, aside from being able to negotiate or come to an understanding with a lady. I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.
Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses.[/QUOTE]

[B]You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language. Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish? [/B]
No unless they happen to speak either of those languages

[B]Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)? [/B]
I DO speak French and Creole is difficult even for me BUT in PAP it does come in handy. I have English>Creole Language CDs that I am studying.

[B]I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole? [/B]
Well, yes he does, at least enough to communicate :)

[B]I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.[/B]
Nope, non-pros are easy also. In Haiti, you don't need to be banging pros...

[B]Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses[/B]
Its a work in progress. In fact, I will be down very shortly to try and tie things up a little more. BigBear and I are actually friends. If we can get the right people to work with us, it'll be great. The language barrier is a big thing. Looks like we have a small group of people (including ex-pats) on the ground who know Haiti well and speak English ready to come on board. Lodging and transportation are looking good also. Plus, we've found quite a few local nonpros (who find others for us) who speak at least some English. Let's see how it all pans out. I'll keep you guys posted.

[quote=fredmeyer]lol!

you guys should all be ashamed of yourselves. this man posts photos of himself abusing **** girls and all of you praise him! i am talking about the set of photos in post #115. badbear2000, can claim the girls are legal all he wants, but even a moron can see that these girls are under 18.

since this site does not condone child porn, i assure you those photos will be taken down.

badbear2000, you should be ashamed and worried. please, stick to photos of girls over 18, since we are not all ****s here.

thank you.[/quote]

hi fredmeyer!
i appreciate your concern. i feel it is legitimate. however, first of all, i want to ask you if you are familiar with haitian girls. i have met some that looked 15 when they were 22 and sometimes the mother of one or two children. don't let looks fool you. those girls are of age. there is no question about it.

l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti ,there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time.Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?
l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there.Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.

Maybe a hint here, I have several haitians girl friends, and they are the best lovers I know.

[QUOTE=DogDays]l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti , there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time. Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.

The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?

l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there. Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogDays]l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti ,there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time.Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?
l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there.Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.[/QUOTE]

Hi Dogdays!
It's just a matter of taste. Too bad!!!
What you like I may not like. What I like you may not like! So goes life.

I definitely appreciate the line Dogdays but I want to have my view and Brazil and those other places sound so professional and about money. I am very interested since I read all reports on here and it just sounds so genuine, a little like Thailand and Phillipines so I want my taste!

[quote=arainmain]maybe a hint here, i have several haitians girl friends, and they are the best lovers i know.[/quote]


arainmain is right. the best girls i had in sosúa were all haitian. i have travelled around the world and i can say that it is different strokes for different folks.

i would also like to defend badbear. i am supremely confident that jackson would never allow for **** girls to be shown on this site. it is such a no-no for every conceivable reason. one of the haitian girls i had in sosúa looked quite young but her documents proved to the contrary (i am quite convinced they were legit). thus, i am willing to take bigbear for his word and my trust in jackson is absolute.

[QUOTE=DogDays]The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?[/QUOTE]The area around the palace wasn't always as dirty as it is now. Generations of corruption and neglect are the biggest reason Port-au-Prince (along with the rest of the country) are in the condition they're in now. There was a time in the 1950s that Haiti was a very popular tourist destination for Americans. The streets were clean and safe and the infrastructure was better then than it is now.

[quote=cunning linguist]arainmain is right. the best girls i had in sosúa were all haitian. i have travelled around the world and i can say that it is different strokes for different folks.

i would also like to defend badbear. i am supremely confident that jackson would never allow for **** girls to be shown on this site. it is such a no-no for every conceivable reason. one of the haitian girls i had in sosúa looked quite young but her documents proved to the contrary (i am quite convinced they were legit). thus, i am willing to take bigbear for his word and my trust in jackson is absolute.[/quote]

i agree with cunning linguist. personally i have met several haitian girls that looked ****. however, i came to find out later that they were of age.

i also want to add my support for badbear2000 and jackson's judgement. i am confident that badbear would not do anything of that sort.

to badbear, i want to say, don't be intimidated by those attacks. we enjoy very much your contribution to this forum. please, continue to post the pictures of those beautiful and sexy haitian girls. thanks

Fredmeyer only has one post and is obviously one of those anti-sex fanatic trolls that appear from time to time on ISG with an idiotic comment. These guys are also famous for screaming hysterically when some guy posts a penetration photo without a condom. Not worth worrying about.

[QUOTE=David_33]Fredmeyer only has one post and is obviously one of those anti-sex fanatic trolls that appear from time to time on ISG with an idiotic comment. These guys are also famous for screaming hysterically when some guy posts a penetration photo without a condom. Not worth worrying about.[/QUOTE]

David,
Idiots abound everywhere. I know BB and will tell you 1000% that he is fastidious about checking ID. All smart travelers will do that before they get a girl anywhere near their place. No pussy is worth going to jail for....

first of all, i am not a ****s. i love young goodlooking girls but not kids. the legal age in haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies. that is not my thing. first of all i am posting this for everyone else because i really don't give a rat's ass what you think. all girls i have sex with or take nude pics of are 18 and older so put your mr avenger attitude back in your head and come to haiti and have some fun. where we live they just don't make them like this.

have a nice day

[quote=badbear2000]first of all, i am not a ****s. i love young goodlooking girls but not kids. the legal age in haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies. that is not my thing. first of all i am posting this for everyone else because i really don't give a rat's ass what you think. all girls i have sex with or take nude pics of are 18 and older so put your mr avenger attitude back in your head and come to haiti and have some fun. where we live they just don't make them like this.

have a nice day[/quote]

yes!!!
way to go badbear2000!

just ignore the idiot and let's have some fun. go ahead and unload the camera!!! hahaha!!!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000] The legal age in Haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, that is weird. Haiti has one of the highest
age of consent rules in the world.
I wonder if that is a relatively recent anti-aids measure?
It certainly is not very realistic for a tropical nation (or anywhere really).
I wonder how many 18 year old virgins there are?

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Yeah, that is weird. Haiti has one of the highest
age of consent rules in the world.
I wonder if that is a relatively recent anti-aids measure?
It certainly is not very realistic for a tropical nation (or anywhere really).
I wonder how many 18 year old virgins there are?[/QUOTE]

Age of consent in Haiti and the DR is 18. Yes, some countries are as low as 12 but that doesn't mean a 40 year old man can fuck a 12 year old girl. They are made typically to prevent child molestation charges among teens. Many times a limit as to age difference is placed on this as like, 5 years. In other words, if a 12 yr old has sex with a 16 year old, that is acceptable. Also, the AOC also has other stipulations pertaining to if that person is their guardian, or coercion into prostitution, etc.

[B]The bottom line is you should never even think about having sex with anyone under 18.[/B] If you do, get some help. Also, you should always INSIST on ID (even if you have to prove it to no one other than yourself) and check it diligently to make sure its valid BEFORE you get to where you are going.

There's alot of fish in the sea. Leave the minnows alone.

Remember the old saying. "15 will get you 20" (ie fucking a 15 year old will get you 20 years in jail)

BadBear2000,

Will you be in Pap around Xmas / New Year?

great pics!

Tavares

Hey Guys!

Let's not allow an idiot to kill this beautiful forum.

Come on BadBear2000, BootyLover, La Isla, Cunning linguist, Global Nomadrr, and all the rest of us. Let's post some reports and pictures.

Peace!

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to introduce myself. I am so happy that I found this forum and enjoy the input from the posts so far.

I am a 22 year old realtor living in Miami Beach and I frequently visit Haiti and I am full of info when it comes to Haiti.

First I would like to mention I am surprised no one recommended Du Ce Jour Hotel in Petionville. (near place St. Pierre) I don't remember the street name but it is off Rue Oge. I would say its about 3 blocks away from the church. Anyway this hotel is very girl friendly. Prices for rooms are from $45-$60 That $45 represents my good negotiation skills hahahah. The rooms are decent. But the bathrooms are very small. They also have pricing by the hour for 1000 gourdes. ($25US)

This hotel is close to all the action in Petionville, walking distance to most clubs, but a nice little walk down to Rue Pan American where Harry's, Munchies, Bakri's and other restaurants are located. You might want to take a moto.

I do have contacts for 2 reliable moto taxis if anyone is interested.

I have no contacts for Taxis at the airport.

But I must say I do not recommend newcomers taking taxis from the airport to your hotel. Pickups from the airport should be from people you know well.

I would also like to mention taking public transportation (tap taps) in the delmas area is not recommended.

Not that I am an expert, but I am pretty experienced when it comes down to getting around and what to look out for.

I must say I will be giving some of the senior members here some competition like BadBear when it comes to photos. I will start making it a habit to take some photos for you guys and those that are contemplating on visiting here.

But I must show love to you BadBear. I thought I was bad, but you def. Hold the crown.

Oh one question is it possible to have a thread dedicated to Cap Haitian? I have been making it a requirement to go up there when in Haiti. Okap is still new to me so any info would be greatly appreciated. Will be down there next month and can't wait.

Peace,

Brian

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I feel it would be helpful to post this also of a reply I sent to a member here today.

Hi XXXX,

For a first timer you must be able to speak French or Creole. December is a great time to come down the weather is great and a lot of tourist come down during this time. December is one of the high peak times in Haiti. Carnival season is the highest which occurs at the end of February.

Finding female companionship. You don't have to seek just smile and chat them up a bit. This is why I mentioned knowing the language is very important. Most will be satisfied by just being in your company and taking them out to eat.

And of course there are the pros that are available too.

The question of retirement is difficult to answer. Why I say this is everyone is different in the lifestyle they choose to live. As in any third world country you give up many things you are accustomed to here in the US. For example: generating power, your water source, and food.

It also depends on your housing choice.

Will it be a home you be building? Purchasing a home?

Renting an apartment or house?

And last Haiti is a very unique country and I say this because it also depends in what area you choose to live. Living in the capitol of port-au-prince or outside the capitol makes a huge difference.

Now I will make one example.

I can see myself in this scenario. Living in the upscale part of Port-au-Prince renting a 2 bedroom home for $800. Now most of the time in these arrangements you will be provided a inverter with batteries for your power. If you need higher energy supply you would have to invest into a generator, which are very expensive in Haiti. For meals and market I will say I spend about $300.

That included me dining out to eat frequently.

Now to me the expense that quirks me the most when in Haiti is filling up my gas tank, as I own a gasoline suv. You will find that most cars in Haiti are diesel and the preferred choice.

Gasoline is very expensive in Haiti.

But I can do without a car most of the time.

Now if you chose to live outside the capitol somewhere in a province housing is much much cheaper. The food expense also goes down.

I myself prefer staying in the province. As in these areas everyone knows each other. You will find petty crime that takes place (like people stealing chickens or goats) And a much more quiet and peaceful environment.

I hope this helps in making your assessment.

Best Regards,

Brian

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[QUOTE=Brian5432]Hi everyone,

Just wanted to introduce myself. I am so happy that I found this forum and enjoy the input from the posts so far.

I am a 22 year old realtor living in Miami Beach and I frequently visit Haiti and I am full of info when it comes to Haiti.

First I would like to mention I am surprised no one recommended Du Ce Jour Hotel in Petionville. (near place St. Pierre) I don't remember the street name but it is off Rue Oge. I would say its about 3 blocks away from the church. Anyway this hotel is very girl friendly. Prices for rooms are from $45-$60 That $45 represents my good negotiation skills hahahah. The rooms are decent. But the bathrooms are very small. They also have pricing by the hour for 1000 gourdes. ($25US)

This hotel is close to all the action in Petionville, walking distance to most clubs, but a nice little walk down to Rue Pan American where Harry's, Munchies, Bakri's and other restaurants are located. You might want to take a moto.

I do have contacts for 2 reliable moto taxis if anyone is interested.

I have no contacts for Taxis at the airport.

But I must say I do not recommend newcomers taking taxis from the airport to your hotel. Pickups from the airport should be from people you know well.

I would also like to mention taking public transportation (tap taps) in the delmas area is not recommended.

Not that I am an expert, but I am pretty experienced when it comes down to getting around and what to look out for.

I must say I will be giving some of the senior members here some competition like BadBear when it comes to photos. I will start making it a habit to take some photos for you guys and those that are contemplating on visiting here.

But I must show love to you BadBear. I thought I was bad, but you def. Hold the crown.

Oh one question is it possible to have a thread dedicated to Cap Haitian? I have been making it a requirement to go up there when in Haiti. Okap is still new to me so any info would be greatly appreciated. Will be down there next month and can't wait.

Peace,

Brian

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Hi Brian,

Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)
Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?

I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.
Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?

Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo

Creepy cabbies hahaha that's a good one. But on a serious note in '06 I remember the reports of taxi drivers leaking info to criminals of tourists that looked to be wealthy and give out where they were staying.

When it comes to security in Haiti I agree with the other posts I have read here. Just follow the basics and it is best not to be wondering around alone in Port-au-Prince. At least have someone you know be with you when getting around town.

I like Cap Haitien for its beaches and scenery. I frequent Comier Plage when ever I get the chance and take a trip to Milot which is 20 min. ride (public transportation $20 Haitian Dollars) outside the center of Cap Haitien. I go to Milot for the horseback riding and you will find the Citadelle, which is a fortress on a mountain top.

I also like the fact that there is electricity about 18hrs everyday there.

Security wise, no problems there even though it is pretty much the second capitol of Haiti..... I find the people there to be very respectful and friendly.

What I dislike about the ville(center of town) of Cap Haitien is that you will find trash everywhere on the streets and in some areas it is pretty dusty.

Which is a shame because the locals tell me it use to be the cleanest and most organized town in all of Haiti.

As for the the nightlife there, my best experience was in February I passed Carnival up there and it was an open party in the streets for a couple of days.

I hope to pick up some tips from the members here about the night life there.
I plan to pass carnival season next year in Jacmel, which I hear is a blast also.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Hi Brian,

Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)

Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?

I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.

Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?

Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo[/QUOTE]

I use to go to the Du Ce Jour Hotel but Bob, the owner, has gone crazy with the prices. He thinks he has an El Ranchos or Montana with his new prices. We are working on something. The Villa Imperial is good because the local girls as well as others pass by at different times of the day or night with hopes they will be snagged by some horny foreigner. The night before my last night I was there, I looked down on the street below and saw 2 honeys passing by. I just said Hello and they asked me where my wife was and I assured them I was alone. I asked them to come up. The security guy stopped them at the gate. I told him to let them come and he asked me if I wanted one or both. Well, one was very nice and I realized I was too tired to take on two so I invited one up. Very nice. I bought her dinner and she worked me over very well. She never asked for $$$. She stayed until I came back the next night. She worked me over again and ate another nice meal. The next morning she left and I gave her a few bucks to eat with and catch a motor cycle. She gave me a kiss and told me to call her when I returned. I will post some pics tomorrow night.

And yes, you do just see a girl on the street or anywhere and you ask her her name. Does she have a phone. Get her number and give her yours. She may not go with you right then but I assure you she will call you in a little while. If not, you call her. Believe me, you do not have to go to a bar or club to get laid in Haiti.


[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Hi Brian,

Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)
Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?

I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.
Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?

Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo[/QUOTE]

Hi BadBear2000!!!

It was about time we hear from you. It's good to know you are having a great time in PAP. I can hardly wait for the pictures.

I am sure everyone is waiting for your great reports! Thanks in advance!!!

Peace!!!

[QUOTE=Brian5432]Creepy cabbies hahaha that's a good one. But on a serious note in '06 I remember the reports of taxi drivers leaking info to criminals of tourists that looked to be wealthy and give out where they were staying.

When it comes to security in Haiti I agree with the other posts I have read here. Just follow the basics and it is best not to be wondering around alone in Port-au-Prince. At least have someone you know be with you when getting around town.

I like Cap Haitien for its beaches and scenery. I frequent Comier Plage when ever I get the chance and take a trip to Milot which is 20 min. ride (public transportation $20 Haitian Dollars) outside the center of Cap Haitien. I go to Milot for the horseback riding and you will find the Citadelle, which is a fortress on a mountain top.

I also like the fact that there is electricity about 18hrs everyday there.

Security wise, no problems there even though it is pretty much the second capitol of Haiti..... I find the people there to be very respectful and friendly.

What I dislike about the ville(center of town) of Cap Haitien is that you will find trash everywhere on the streets and in some areas it is pretty dusty.

Which is a shame because the locals tell me it use to be the cleanest and most organized town in all of Haiti.

As for the the nightlife there, my best experience was in February I passed Carnival up there and it was an open party in the streets for a couple of days.

I hope to pick up some tips from the members here about the night life there.
I plan to pass carnival season next year in Jacmel, which I hear is a blast also.[/QUOTE]

Hi Brian!

How do you travel from PAP to Cape-Haitian? How long does it take. What are the road conditions if you travel by bus? How long does it take. Is it safe?
What is a good, safe, mid-range hotel to stay in Cape-Haitian? Thanks for the info.

Peace!!!

Villa Imperial.......is that in Petionville?

Or are you referring to a hotel in Delmas?

Because I think I saw signs for a Villa Imperial in the Delmas area..... if so what are the rates?

pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)

the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.

if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.

i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.

i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.

[quote=papi0170]hi brian!

how do you travel from pap to cape-haitian? how long does it take. what are the road conditions if you travel by bus? how long does it take. is it safe?
what is a good, safe, mid-range hotel to stay in cape-haitian? thanks for the info.

peace!!![/quote]

the road to gonaive is under water therefore they have routed a temporary road and it is rough as hell. it is true about the buses. they are crazy and usually packed like sardines. flying is the best choice. the hotels are like pap. over priced


[quote=brian5432]pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)

the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.

if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.

i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.

i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.[/quote]

It is on Delmas 42. There is a hugh lit sign on Delmas. A great place to go fishing. Also, they do have large nice rooms for $65 but I prefer to spend my money on the fishing rather than the boat so I go for the $44.


[QUOTE=Brian5432]Villa Imperial.......is that in Petionville?

Or are you referring to a hotel in Delmas?

Because I think I saw signs for a Villa Imperial in the Delmas area..... if so what are the rates?[/QUOTE]

[quote=brian5432]pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)

the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.

if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.

i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.

i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.[/quote]


hi brian!

thanks for the info. very good. when you get there next week, get all the info you can and share them with us. i am a little nervous about pap, but i know this is probably the best place for fishing in haiti. i went to cap-haitien 24 years ago. i know for sure it's very different now from what i saw then.

peace!!!

I just read a long article about this. I had no idea.

[url]http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=27756&Cr=minustah&Cr1=kidnap[/url]


Forbes magazine has named Haiti one of the world’s 10 most dangerous destinations, along with Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. The Associated Press has called Port-au-Prince the kidnapping capital of the Americas. The U.S. government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels.

I went into the horrible Cite Soleil where just months ago, people were afraid to wander into. The streets have been all repaired and are actually the best in the Port-au-Prince area. Myself and a visiting friend from this sight ventured into the infamous Cite Soleil on the back of a pickup taking pics. We never had any fear and nobody apposed our being there. Let's face it, if the news is not bad, the news media does not want to hear about it. And many fools believe all the BS coming out of Haiti. I feel much safer there than in areas of Memphis, St Louis, Miami, Atlanta, etc. So please, if you do not want to go, do not spread propaganda that you hear from people that have no idea what Haiti is about



[QUOTE=I Jags][url]http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=27756&Cr=minustah&Cr1=kidnap[/url]


Forbes magazine has named Haiti one of the world’s 10 most dangerous destinations, along with Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. The Associated Press has called Port-au-Prince the kidnapping capital of the Americas. The U.S. government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels.[/QUOTE]

This is for you old guys that like beautiful, hot, black girls that really do not care about your age. They just want to ride your horsey. It is true that money talks but I have had girl friends there that were not just looking for the dollar. I helped a girl get a job with the U.N. You think that after she got the job and did not need my money she forgot about me. She still wants to marry me. Then there is the Virgin whose family sends her and the rest of the family money every month. She has never asked me for a dollar. When I travel, I usually bring her back gifts which she like any woman appreciates. Then the little girl Juliette who I actually tried to give a friend from this sight but she wanted no part of it unless the guy is just trying to make this old fart feel good about himself. I dated a girl that worked at one of the major hotels. She is a model in Paris, France now. She calls me several times a month wanting me to come visit her. Now, I would like to think that I am just a stud with a 12 inch pecker or a tongue that I can lick my eyebrow with but I looked in the mirror the other day and I did not see this. I also looked in my wallet and realized if was empty so it is not always about the money. I just show them a little kindness and try like hell to make them happy in bed. Most Haitians don't east nookie so we already have the advantage. Well, i guess I will lick the tears from my eye lashes as I think about how I wish I was already back in the land of Hot Women.

Have a nice day, THE BEAR

Well I know I am not a Senior member here and my opinion may not have much weight here, but at first I thought you had good intention in your post but I see you have another intention here, not an innocent warning.

I noticed at the end of your statement you say "The U. S. Government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels. "

Holed up in fortified hotels. Not true. I see missionaries, aid workers, and journalists wondering all over the place with ease and no hassle.

I haven't come a across a fortified hotel either.

The media seems to be focused only on the negatives that come out of this country. You will never see that for Jamaica. Too many foreign interest there and Jamaica has the highest murder rate in the Caribbean.

Yes there is a warning for Haiti and can be view here.
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_917.html[/url]

To this date things are calm since those food riots in April.

Pay attention to the Crime section found here.
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html[/url]

Here it states the areas to avoid in Port-au-Prince:

Certain high-crime zones in the Port-au-Prince area should be avoided, including Croix-des-Bouquets, Carrefour, Martissant, the port road (Boulevard La Saline), urban route Nationale #1, the airport road (Boulevard Toussaint L'Ouverture) and its adjoining connectors to the New ("American") Road via Route Nationale #1 (which should also be avoided). This latter area in particular has been the scene of numerous robberies, carjackings, and murders.

Jags. This is what this forum is for. So we can communicate and relate accurate information and ideas. Not one sided information found in the media today. I would have given you more credit if I saw you give out warnings on other parts of this forum like:

Jamaica
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1147.html[/url]

Kenya
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_923.html[/url]

Colombia
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_941.html[/url]

Philippines
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_2190.html[/url]

I would suggest people to make there own assessment from people who actually visit or live in Haiti and not from articles found on the net.

I have visited Cite Soleil also and I said the same things to myself. How strange it is that the worst neighborhood of all of Haiti and the whole area is completely paved with canals.

The area by the water though has to be the most horrible site I've seen in my life.

I know it is a hard to accept the idea that Haiti is no more dangerous than the cities BadBear mentioned and I feel the same way while I am in Haiti.

I am not being in denial that the potential risks exist, but Don't you notice the media only focuses on Port-au-Prince. What about the other areas in Haiti? Well I can tell you. It is much better than what you can ever imagine.

If you are still worried about traveling to Haiti Port-au-Prince is not the only option. You can have an even better experience in the provinces like Jacmel or Les Cayes (Aux Cayes by the locals). I actually would recommend going out to these provinces and be prepared to be amazed.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I went into the horrible Cite Soleil where just months ago, people were afraid to wander into. The streets have been all repaired and are actually the best in the Port-au-Prince area. Myself and a visiting friend from this sight ventured into the infamous Cite Soleil on the back of a pickup taking pics. We never had any fear and nobody apposed our being there. Let's face it, if the news is not bad, the news media does not want to hear about it. And many fools believe all the BS coming out of Haiti. I feel much safer there than in areas of Memphis, St Louis, Miami, Atlanta, etc. So please, if you do not want to go, do not spread propaganda that you hear from people that have no idea what Haiti is about[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong. There are certain places that I would not travel during the night hours. But no more than places in cities right here in the good old USA. Brian is right, you would be amazed out the other locations. Jacmel is beautiful. I use to take my German Sheppard dog to the beach with either a Dominican or Haitian Girl. We would ride an air mattress on surfs that a surfer would be envious of and have sex in the water. The only problem I ever had was the sand getting in my bathing suit. I will be managing a plantation in St Michele of the north. This last trip I had to pass through Gonaive and was totally devastated at the sight of the homes and vehicles that were still buried under mud caused during the hurricanes. With all this horror, the Haitian people as a whole are still very humble.



[QUOTE=Brian5432]I have visited Cite Soleil also and I said the same things to myself. How strange it is that the worst neighborhood of all of Haiti and the whole area is completely paved with canals.

The area by the water though has to be the most horrible site I've seen in my life.

I know it is a hard to accept the idea that Haiti is no more dangerous than the cities BadBear mentioned and I feel the same way while I am in Haiti.

I am not being in denial that the potential risks exist, but Don't you notice the media only focuses on Port-au-Prince. What about the other areas in Haiti? Well I can tell you. It is much better than what you can ever imagine.

If you are still worried about traveling to Haiti Port-au-Prince is not the only option. You can have an even better experience in the provinces like Jacmel or Les Cayes (Aux Cayes by the locals). I actually would recommend going out to these provinces and be prepared to be amazed.[/QUOTE]

Reading the last few posts, and to chime in: yes, most areas outside of PaP are safer than PaP itself, and certainly prettier. I'm one of those 'official' types living here under 'fortified' conditions--all i can say is, and this is true for USG travel warnings everywhere, they are exagerated...I go out plenty, but i know my way around. I still wouldn't run around Cite Soleil, even if BBear did it, because i do know shit that goes down there that you guys dont. The worse 'security' problem you could have, in my estimation, is riding any of the local buses around the country. They just drive like idiots and the accident rate is terrible--it's the one counsel I'd put to the group. Of course, it's fucking great that Forbes and others will just stay away from Haiti and types of tourists it caters to..to hell with them.

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr]Reading the last few posts, and to chime in: yes, most areas outside of PaP are safer than PaP itself, and certainly prettier. I'm one of those 'official' types living here under 'fortified' conditions--all i can say is, and this is true for USG travel warnings everywhere, they are exagerated...I go out plenty, but i know my way around. I still wouldn't run around Cite Soleil, even if BBear did it, because i do know shit that goes down there that you guys dont. The worse 'security' problem you could have, in my estimation, is riding any of the local buses around the country. They just drive like idiots and the accident rate is terrible--it's the one counsel I'd put to the group. Of course, it's fucking great that Forbes and others will just stay away from Haiti and types of tourists it caters to..to hell with them.[/QUOTE]

I have travelled the world over and some of the countries have been quite dicey but as long as there is no actual war going on (e.g. Iraq) or a complete breakdown of the state (e.g. Somalia), my experience tells me that travel is doable just about anywhere provided that necessary precautions are taken and one's own street smarts kick in. However, I am very much daunted by the trip between the airport and the hotel (e.g. Hotel Villa Imperial), especially when the airport road is mentioned as a place to avoid. I know once I make it to the hotel, I would be able to take stock of how to get around by asking the hotel staff and locals. Thus, how to find reliable, trustworthy transportation to and from the airport is my main concern.
My thanks goes out to Bad Bear and others for any information they have give or will give.

Upon our arrival, my wingman and I were immediately warned about staying away from certain areas and going out at night because of fear of being robbed, kidnapped, or even killed.

We met several expats there and almost every one of them had a story about being kidnapped! I’ll admit there were several times I was afraid we might be kidnapped, even though we were never alone. You are simply vulnerable when you go out, even with a guard. The security in Haiti is lax. A gang can kidnap you whenever they please. Just because we made it back to the hotel doesn’t mean it is a safe place to visit.

My advice to anyone planning a visit, listen to the warnings! Renting a car, hiring a personal driver, guard, translator, and guide were just a few of the necessities needed while there. When you add up the necessities with the mediocre accommodations, people staring (tourist are rare), beggars, the Creole language, object poverty, etc, it turns out to be an uncomfortable place to stay at.

So why did we end up staying for a week, for a dose of reality. I witnessed what true poverty is. It taught me how fortunate I really am in life. For that reason I recommend a trip to Haiti, but when it is a safe place to visit.

If you want to know what Haitian girls taste like, there are plenty of them in the DR that can be had without the risk that comes from a trip to Haiti.

Happy mongering,

Robert Downey Jr.

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[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]Upon our arrival, my wingman and I were immediately warned about staying away from certain areas and going out at night because of fear of being robbed, kidnapped, or even killed.

We met several expats there and almost every one of them had a story about being kidnapped! I’ll admit there were several times I was afraid we might be kidnapped, even though we were never alone. You are simply vulnerable when you go out, even with a guard. The security in Haiti is lax. A gang can kidnap you whenever they please. Just because we made it back to the hotel doesn’t mean it is a safe place to visit.

My advice to anyone planning a visit, listen to the warnings! Renting a car, hiring a personal driver, guard, translator, and guide were just a few of the necessities needed while there. When you add up the necessities with the mediocre accommodations, people staring (tourist are rare), beggars, the Creole language, object poverty, etc, it turns out to be an uncomfortable place to stay at.

So why did we end up staying for a week, for a dose of reality. I witnessed what true poverty is. It taught me how fortunate I really am in life. For that reason I recommend a trip to Haiti, but when it is a safe place to visit.

If you want to know what Haitian girls taste like, there are plenty of them in the DR that can be had without the risk that comes from a trip to Haiti.

Happy mongering,

Robert Downey Jr.

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One's reality can be very positive while the very same thing can be very negative for somebody else.
First of all, I repeat that Haiti is probably good enough to take a bet on although I have never been there. I have been to the Dominican Republic a couple of times and I imagine that while the Haitians are the same racially, living there has changed them. They are not exactly Dominicans but neither are they exactly Haitians.
I also fail to see why the Krèyol language is such a "problem". It is certainly easier than Spanish grammatically and is easy to learn. As for the other things: abject poverty, overpriced hotels, people staring at you, hiring a driver, etc., that is nothing that I have not ever dealt with in my travels in the Philippines, Cambodia, China, and parts of Africa.
Bad Bear wrote earlier: "call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole." I definitely plan on taking him at his word when I go in the summer.

Peace.

I have traveled from the DR to Haiti over the last 27 years. I have watched both countries change drastically. My ex is Dominican and my son is half Dominican and let me assure you that both of them and myself actually feels safer in Haiti than the DR. My wife has been robbed two times at gunpoint in her apartment in the DR which was located in a very nice neighborhood. She nor my son ever had a problem going out onto the streets of Haiti for hours at a time.
Many cars have been high jacked by thieves dressed as policemen on the highway from Puerta Plata to Nagua. There was even a warning for several years that if a cop tried to stop you after a certain time not to stop for them but drive to the next city and report to the local officials.
Do not get me wrong, I will not travel on the roads outside Port-au-Prince after dark and neither should you. Security has improved greatly over the past 4 months. I will not go downtown at night. I stay between Delmas 42 and Petionville during the night hours. If I travel alone I will have a favorite motor cycle driver pick me up. If you need his number I can get it for you. But mostly after dark, I stay at the Villa Imperial waiting for some honey I made contact with during the day to come to the hotel and send me into dream land. Ohhhhhhhh I can almost feel it now



[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]One's reality can be very positive while the very same thing can be very negative for somebody else.
First of all, I repeat that Haiti is probably good enough to take a bet on although I have never been there. I have been to the Dominican Republic a couple of times and I imagine that while the Haitians are the same racially, living there has changed them. They are not exactly Dominicans but neither are they exactly Haitians.
I also fail to see why the Krèyol language is such a "problem". It is certainly easier than Spanish grammatically and is easy to learn. As for the other things: abject poverty, overpriced hotels, people staring at you, hiring a driver, etc., that is nothing that I have not ever dealt with in my travels in the Philippines, Cambodia, China, and parts of Africa.
Bad Bear wrote earlier: "call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole." I definitely plan on taking him at his word when I go in the summer.

Peace.[/QUOTE]

I hope all you guys that are in Haiti and snuggled up next to little hottie is thinking about us back here in the old good ole U.S. of A. freezing our butts off

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I hope all you guys that are in Haiti and snuggled up next to little hottie is thinking about us back here in the old good ole U.S. of A. freezing our butts off[/QUOTE]

Badbear.,,,we've talked about this: there are plenty of ladies, but finding the 'right one' is another thing. They are almost all angling for something,
as far as i have seen, but that's fair i guess since we'd just like indulgent comforting. And while the HIV/AIDS reports on Haiti have become less hysterical, and the types of girls you and I find aren't likely...i can't really advocate indefinite promiscuity here...Ive got photos too, if not as extensive as yours, i just don't know how the shrink technology works. Anway, whatever else, it certainly stays warmer down here.

I find that Dominicans and Haitians are very much alike in some ways. I was married to a Dominican and when I moved back to the states, I let my mother who was very sick at the time cause many problems. She was the best thing that ever happened to me. I made one mistake that an old Virginian told me never to do and that was taking her back to the USA. The women here seem to ruin good things. I find that Haitian women are a little more lazy than the Dominican women when it comes to sex. The Dominican women will give you what ever you want no matter if she is pissed off at you, sick, or getting a divorce tomorrow. Haitian women seem to get tired of sex after 2 or 3 nights. For this reason, I think you may have to have a couple on the side even if you were to get married. In my opinion , you cannot beat a Dominican woman, but when I get back to Haiti i am going to try and if I fail, I will travel across the border and bring back a hot Dominican.

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr]Badbear.,,,we've talked about this: there are plenty of ladies, but finding the 'right one' is another thing. They are almost all angling for something,
as far as i have seen, but that's fair i guess since we'd just like indulgent comforting. And while the HIV/AIDS reports on Haiti have become less hysterical, and the types of girls you and I find aren't likely...i can't really advocate indefinite promiscuity here...Ive got photos too, if not as extensive as yours, i just don't know how the shrink technology works. Anway, whatever else, it certainly stays warmer down here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]We met several expats there and almost every one of them had a story about being kidnapped! [/QUOTE]

Seeing how this is your 1st and only post, I woulod assume you're a troll. Your statement above is so stupid, it borders on ridiculous. Anyone who has been kidnapped ANYWHERE....leaves the country.

Haiti is not for the faint of heart. I am a white dude and can tell you that I have NEVER felt even slightly threatened in Haiti. Use your head and take precautions like you would anywhere in the world and you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=La Isla]Seeing how this is your 1st and only post, I woulod assume you're a troll. Your statement above is so stupid, it borders on ridiculous. Anyone who has been kidnapped ANYWHERE....leaves the country.

Haiti is not for the faint of heart. I am a white dude and can tell you that I have NEVER felt even slightly threatened in Haiti. Use your head and take precautions like you would anywhere in the world and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

I thought the same thing too. Why stick around after being kidnapped? Maybe they stand to lose more if they did leave? Assuming you know how someone whom you've never met will react to a situation is a sign of ignorance.

Troll or not, who I am is none of your business. Don’t forget that everyone starts off with one post

Robert Downey Jr.

I lived in Haiti thru the Bebe Doc days, when they were changing presidents more often than most change their undershorts, during the Cedras military rule, Aristide, and after Aristide and I can assure you I have never felt unsafe. But remember, I know Haiti inside out. I have rich friends, middle class friends, poor friends, and even farmer friends. I would not recommend any of you jumping out of the airport and just taking a cross country trip with the first guy you meet. This is one reason we are getting ready to setup a website that will offer you a very good selection of girls that like to sex you to death or maybe looking for a husband and at the same time guide you through a safe stay while educating you enough so the next time you come you will have the same feeling of security we do.

I love Haiti for more reasons than just the hot nookie

Have a nice day


QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

I thought the same thing too. Why stick around after being kidnapped? Maybe they stand to lose more if they did leave? Assuming you know how someone whom you've never met will react to a situation is a sign of ignorance.

Troll or not, who I am is none of your business. Don’t forget that everyone starts off with one post

Robert Downey Jr.[/QUOTE]

Badbear,

All the reports you’ve contributed are much appreciated.

This website that you speak of, will it be a non-for-profit? I’d like to think that your motive behind your posts are unbiased and are only here to inform us, not promote an upcoming website.

I think you need to stay where you are. I think your short time on here is full of negative vibes. Haiti does not need that.


[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]Badbear,

All the reports you’ve contributed are much appreciated.

This website that you speak of, will it be a non-for-profit? I’d like to think that your motive behind your posts are unbiased and are only here to inform us, not promote an upcoming website.[/QUOTE]

Badbear, I apologize. I could've done a better job of framing that question.

Like I mentioned in my report, I do recommend visiting Haiti when it is a safe place to visit.

My intention was not to generate a negative vibe for Haiti, but to provide a constructive report. I am sorry if my report just happens to agree with Haiti's travel warnings, and obviously I don't a good job of listening to those warnings.

Perhaps those travel warnings don't apply to seasoned mongers. I am far from being a seasoned one (I wish I had the time).

Also, I forgot to mention that my report is based on my visit to Petionville and Port-Au-Prince. And despite the problems in Haiti, I did notice that the majority of the people there are friendly.

[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]This website that you speak of, will it be a non-for-profit? [/QUOTE]

Yeah BadBear...not for profit? Why don't you:
- Pick up travelers at the airport
- Take them to a recommended hotel
- Drive them around for a week (at $6 a gallon and wear & tear on your car)
- Translate for them
- Show them where to eat, party, etc
- Help them talk to girls
- Hang out with them all day & help keep them safe
- Introduce them to ex-pats, friends and other acquaintances you've developed over the last 25 years
- Drive them back to the airport

and do it all FOR FREE???
I'm sure Robert Downey Jr. does that all the time wherever it is he goes.

La Isla,

Ok, I get it now. You also are involved in promoting the website.

That explains all the positive posts on Haiti.

Well, good luck to you guys on that business. What will this website be called? HaitiPimpServices.com?

Keep in mind that half the fun is in the hunt. And this website is about just that, providing tips on hunting girls for sport.

Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Considering a visitor will end up paying for those services anyway. Haiti, is not like the DR where all you need is a room and a taxi cab.

The problem with the langauage barrier.

How can you have foreplay when you are relying on a translator to communicate with the girl? From my experience, you can't.

With good foreplay the girl will not charge you for sex and she will be eager to please you (I donate afterwards, and you should too).

So I look forward to foreplay. But a translator is only good for negotiating a fee upfront, which I hate to do since that can lead to mediocre sex.

Being able to speak the language is important, in my opinoin.

[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]La Isla,

Ok, I get it now. You also are involved in promoting the website.

That explains all the positive posts on Haiti.

Well, good luck to you guys on that business. What will this website be called? HaitiPimpServices.com?

Keep in mind that half the fun is in the hunt. And this website is about just that, providing tips on hunting girls for sport.

Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Considering a visitor will end up paying for those services anyway. Haiti, is not like the DR where all you need is a room and a taxi cab.[/QUOTE]

I definitely plan to go to Haiti this summer and have been inspirited by Badbear and others on this thread. I have no part in the upcoming website but look very much forward to it. I especially want to avail myself of the airport to hotel service. No, there are people such as myself looking forward to the site even though they absolutely have nothing to do with it.

As for your comments about the language, it is mostly true but such a service is necessary for mostly Americans because most of them are monolingual English-speakers. No insult, just fact. Many Americans, generally speaking, are often very bad at learning languages and so such a service would be useful. As for myself, I need no translator as I speak pretty good French and my stays in Sosúa have indicated that my Krèyol is more than adequate in dealing with the Haitian ladies there.
Peace

Cheers

[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]La Isla,
Ok, I get it now. You also are involved in promoting the website. That explains all the positive posts on Haiti.
What will this website be called? HaitiPimpServices.com?
[/QUOTE]

FYI, I am not a website promoter.The positive posts on Haiti are just that, positive experiences posted on a public forum. If I had negative ones, they would be here also. I remind you that not everyone is here to look at pictures and whack off. Read between the pussy posts and you'll find valuable, practical info thats hard to get anywhere else. Remember, 98% of your time in a foreign country is spent doing the practical things like eating, seeing the sites, figuring out transportation, etc. In a place like Haiti, this is invaluable.

HaitiPimpServices.com?? Who said anything about pimping or providing any kind of sexual services? If you can read (which I know you can), you will notice that Haiti is the last place you need to do any such thing. Having someone there to translate and watch your back for you is not pimping.

When I travel to a new place, I always look for a local/ex-pat to give me the lay of the land or help out. Fortunately for me, I speak several languages and and it usually winds up being a taxi driver or something. That way I have a built in driver/guide, confidant watching my back, etc. At the end of a week, I always throw them a few hundred bucks. Why not? Its well worth it. Whats the difference between that and paying for an all-inclusive trip somewhere? They do the same thing for you, but this is more personal. I don't think BadBear is proposing anything more than that. In a place like Haiti, this would be an invaluable service.

Do you always have such a negative and suspicious attitude?

I lived in Haiti several years when the Dominican Girls had rooms at the clubs. There was no charge to take them out. You did not discuss prices. They paid for their rooms by the week. I think it was like $20. I would go and pick over the then wonderful selections and may even take a couple. They did not need a translator as I could not speak a word of Spanish but we knew how to communicate with body language. I had girls stay with me for several weeks and maybe start to give them money and they would refuse saying they wanted to come back. I would insist they needed the money to live and would practically have to force them to take it. At that time things were different. Now the Dominican houses charge at least $100 to take them out. The girl gets some of it but I am not sure how much. Also at that time, the Haitian girls wore very lose dresses and you had no idea what kind of bodies they had so I stay clear of them unless every now and then you would see one at the Dominican places. I was gone for several years other than just bouncing in for a service call but one day I returned and the Haitian girls were wearing pants, shorts, short skirts, and damn did I change my mind in a hurry.

May I say that I have never paid a Haitian Girl or Dominican Girl up front. I have no intention of pimping any girl. In Haiti, they do their own thing. All we are going to do is Show pics of girls that are looking for a husband, girls that are looking for some guys that will pay them for their company, and some girls that just want to be dined and wined. A Pimp in Haiti would not do too well as most of the girls are willing to give it up for nothing. We want to provide a safe trip to the hotel from the airport, suggest restaurants, provide you with transportation, and help with the girls just to jump start a relation. I am certainly not going to lay in bed beside some hard ass and put it in for him. Give me a break, I now speak kreole and Spanish enough to get laid. When I could not speak the languages, I got laid. Have I made myself clear.



[QUOTE=Robert Downey Jr]La Isla,

Ok, I get it now. You also are involved in promoting the website.

That explains all the positive posts on Haiti.

Well, good luck to you guys on that business. What will this website be called? HaitiPimpServices.com?

Keep in mind that half the fun is in the hunt. And this website is about just that, providing tips on hunting girls for sport.

Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Considering a visitor will end up paying for those services anyway. Haiti, is not like the DR where all you need is a room and a taxi cab.[/QUOTE]

I know there are some guys there that could post some pics of some hotties to heat up this old man here in Missouri freezing his ars off. Are you guys just waiting for me to get back down there or what

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I know there are some guys there that could post some pics of some hotties to heat up this old man here in Missouri freezing his ars off. Are you guys just waiting for me to get back down there or what[/QUOTE]Hi Bad Bear. This is a Haitian that I met in the DR. A very nice girl who claims that she is going to marry a guy from Germany. Hmmm. She spoke to me in Krèyol and Spanish and she was incredibly GFE. Haitians get a bad rap in the DR but that is because they are great competition. I bought her some "hair" for her head which cost around 4,000 pesos. That made her like me even more. OK, maybe a bit mercenary but in the end you can tell if they really like you or not. After being with her a few days, I could tell. She even saw me off at the airport and cried. I cropped her face in case her German fiancé peruses these pages. She quite spontaneously uncovered her breasts (in a balcony at a restaurant overlooking the ocean) and wanted me to take a photo. I wouldn't want to spoil her chances at getting a better life.
I hope to find a girl like her in Haiti this summer.

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Hey that is my girl. I'm the german! She lost.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Hi Bad Bear. This is a Haitian that I met in the DR. A very nice girl who claims that she is going to marry a guy from Germany. Hmmm. [/QUOTE]just a joke

Nice babe

You should have gotten contact info. She would be great for our up and coming website. That is the one thing Haitian girls have problems with and that is growing hair. They are jealous of the Dominicans because they can grow great hair. My ex had hair down to the middle of her back and her mom could sit on her hair. But when you get them in the bed, all you feel is that nice tight body-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMM

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Hi Bad Bear. This is a Haitian that I met in the DR. A very nice girl who claims that she is going to marry a guy from Germany. Hmmm. She spoke to me in Krèyol and Spanish and she was incredibly GFE. Haitians get a bad rap in the DR but that is because they are great competition. I bought her some "hair" for her head which cost around 4,000 pesos. That made her like me even more. OK, maybe a bit mercenary but in the end you can tell if they really like you or not. After being with her a few days, I could tell. She even saw me off at the airport and cried. I cropped her face in case her German fiancé peruses these pages. She quite spontaneously uncovered her breasts (in a balcony at a restaurant overlooking the ocean) and wanted me to take a photo. I wouldn't want to spoil her chances at getting a better life.
I hope to find a girl like her in Haiti this summer.[/QUOTE]

As they say in Creole; "Belle cheve pa largent"..pretty hair is not money.

[QUOTE=David_33]As they say in Creole; "Belle cheve pa largent"..pretty hair is not money.[/QUOTE]Them also say "pale franse pa di lespri pou sa". but I prefer when they they say w dous papa, bam li du!"

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I... I have no intention of pimping any girl. In Haiti, they do their own thing. All we are going to do is Show pics of girls that are looking for a husband, girls that are looking for some guys that will pay them for their company, and some girls that just want to be dined and wined. A Pimp in Haiti would not do too well as most of the girls are willing to give it up for nothing. We want to provide a safe trip to the hotel from the airport, suggest restaurants, provide you with transportation, and help with the girls just to jump start a relation...[/QUOTE]
Depending on just what you end up providing, this could be a valuable service. I travel more in Eastern Europe, where there are lots of "dating" and "marriage" web-site that allow you to connect to girls for various purposes, including straight P4P. I don't see those kinds of services available in the Caribbean. The nearest substitute seems to be social networking sites, like Facebook or Hi5, but I find those very low-yield.

So a "foreign dating" site would be a valuable way to connect with willing chicas. I guess one challenge is that many of the "most motivated" girls do not have easy access to computers, so you may have to include central computer access in your business model. In the early days (a couple of years ago) many Russian dating/marriage agencies made internet access available in their offices for girls who had none. Some also took good quality photos or videos. This sounds like more than you are planning to take on, but is a great way to bridge the gap between mongers with no in-country experience or contacts and chicas with no way to connect to foreigners.

Maybe a middle ground would be to allow chicas to post their profiles and photos along with their cell phone # (for direct calls or SMS)(this is assuming girls have better access to cell phones than to computers - I don't know if this is true). Most "dating services" don't permit this, because they want to collect a toll on providing the contact information, but if that is not your business model, then providing essentially a "free classified ad" section, like craigslist, would be a great way to go.

I understand you see your core business as providing airport transfers, apartment/hotel connections, etc. You should add translators/guides to that list of services. This actually helps on two fronts. First, most guys and especially business visitors could use a translator/guide and may be able to business-expense them. And if that guide happens to be a lovely chica who is either willing to add in extra personal services or help the lonely traveller to connect with lovely locals, then all the better!

A few years ago an escort service in Kiev started offering apartments rentals and airport pick-ups including an escort girl. They don't do this anymore, as prices went up and service went down, but it was a very attractive model - an apartment rental (again, possibly expensed) with girl provided and rotated on a daily basis if desired.

Anyway, I suggest you check out some of the EE web sites, which have been down this path before you. Probably none of them are precisely in the same business you envision, but they may have some elements that related to your proposed business.

[url]www.luckylovers.net[/url] (genuine east/west introduction/dating service with real girls and not too many pros, but probably many girls could be induced into short term relationships)

[url]www.elenasmodels.com[/url] (Russian dating/bride service, relatively reputable)

[url]www.date.ru[/url] (mixed real dating with direct P4P solicitation and lots in between, but primarily aimed at Russians, not foreigners)

[url]www.rusdosug.com[/url] (straight prostitution site, probably not relevant to your model but interesting because they give contact information without requiring users to pay anything - I don't understand their business model, unless the girls are paying, which would be unusual.

Many Russian dating and marriage sites are really just scams, with fake or insincere profiles just intended to sell memberships/contact credits or other products (sending "your girl" flowers or gift baskets - yeah, right). The thing that distinguishes the legitimate from the scammers is the ease of directly contacting the girls.

Anyway, I hope this lengthy treatise on foreign dating sites is of some use in developing your own ideas.

Good luck!

We will have very good quality pics of the girls with as much info as we are allowed to have. We are not allowed by law to give contact info as it could be dangerous for the girls as well. We will have translator/guides which in most cases will be of the weaker sex. We already have one very pretty girl that will be helping us that speaks very good English and French. It will take us a while but when we finish it will be a first class sight. It should be up and running before the summer months.



[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Depending on just what you end up providing, this could be a valuable service. I travel more in Eastern Europe, where there are lots of "dating" and "marriage" web-site that allow you to connect to girls for various purposes, including straight P4P. I don't see those kinds of services available in the Caribbean. The nearest substitute seems to be social networking sites, like Facebook or Hi5, but I find those very low-yield.

So a "foreign dating" site would be a valuable way to connect with willing chicas. I guess one challenge is that many of the "most motivated" girls do not have easy access to computers, so you may have to include central computer access in your business model. In the early days (a couple of years ago) many Russian dating/marriage agencies made internet access available in their offices for girls who had none. Some also took good quality photos or videos. This sounds like more than you are planning to take on, but is a great way to bridge the gap between mongers with no in-country experience or contacts and chicas with no way to connect to foreigners.

Maybe a middle ground would be to allow chicas to post their profiles and photos along with their cell phone # (for direct calls or SMS)(this is assuming girls have better access to cell phones than to computers - I don't know if this is true). Most "dating services" don't permit this, because they want to collect a toll on providing the contact information, but if that is not your business model, then providing essentially a "free classified ad" section, like craigslist, would be a great way to go.

I understand you see your core business as providing airport transfers, apartment/hotel connections, etc. You should add translators/guides to that list of services. This actually helps on two fronts. First, most guys and especially business visitors could use a translator/guide and may be able to business-expense them. And if that guide happens to be a lovely chica who is either willing to add in extra personal services or help the lonely traveller to connect with lovely locals, then all the better!

A few years ago an escort service in Kiev started offering apartments rentals and airport pick-ups including an escort girl. They don't do this anymore, as prices went up and service went down, but it was a very attractive model - an apartment rental (again, possibly expensed) with girl provided and rotated on a daily basis if desired.

Anyway, I suggest you check out some of the EE web sites, which have been down this path before you. Probably none of them are precisely in the same business you envision, but they may have some elements that related to your proposed business.

[url]www.luckylovers.net[/url] (genuine east/west introduction/dating service with real girls and not too many pros, but probably many girls could be induced into short term relationships)

[url]www.elenasmodels.com[/url] (Russian dating/bride service, relatively reputable)

[url]www.date.ru[/url] (mixed real dating with direct P4P solicitation and lots in between, but primarily aimed at Russians, not foreigners)

[url]www.rusdosug.com[/url] (straight prostitution site, probably not relevant to your model but interesting because they give contact information without requiring users to pay anything - I don't understand their business model, unless the girls are paying, which would be unusual.

Many Russian dating and marriage sites are really just scams, with fake or insincere profiles just intended to sell memberships/contact credits or other products (sending "your girl" flowers or gift baskets - yeah, right). The thing that distinguishes the legitimate from the scammers is the ease of directly contacting the girls.

Anyway, I hope this lengthy treatise on foreign dating sites is of some use in developing your own ideas.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

Happy New Year to all you lucky guys in Haiti and all you horny guys wanting to go to Haiti.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Happy New Year to all you lucky guys in Haiti and all you horny guys wanting to go to Haiti.[/QUOTE]And a happy new year to you too BadBear!

Your past posts and photographic show-n-tell's have inspired me (& I am sure other members) that one day soon I must visit Haiti to sample first hand the wonders you have presented to the forum.

Cheers & enjoy '09.

P.

I went last year and I urge people to go. If you can find someone to go and the girls are so nice and friendly especially the non-pros (regular local girls)

Keep an open mind for it is a third world country. You will enjoy the food, music, art, and if you can go outside port-au prince then do so too.

jacmel,
Ill la vache
cap Haitian
port salut
aucayes

My best advice is to find someone here or bring a friend that is cool to go with you. you can find a girl that will cook, clean and actually like you for the whole trip. Marrying one is a good option for those looking for a vibrant dark young sweetheart.

If you find someone just go and keep an open mind, lots of charities online based over there good way to meet people. Nice regular local girls.

People are friendly and go out there way to be nice and a few bucks goes a long way to get what you want. You can meet a nice girl for long term too.

Jamaica, Dominican Republic has more crime and you do feel safe in Haiti. Outside port au prince is even safer less people quiet towns.

If you are in port au prince you will find so many women (local) just relax be yourself and have someone that knows the area to get you to and from with no problem.

Want to retire there man.

I could have not said it better. I have traveled from the DR to Haiti and Wapminnin is right about crime in the DR being more than in Haiti. As you cross the border from Haiti to the DR it is amazing how much more you are being conned on the DR side than on the Haitian side. Everyone on the Dominican side is trying to con you. It is true the women are beautiful but I would much rather have a friend with me in the DR than in Haiti. Now, you may say that is because I am more familiar with Haiti. Not true! My ex-wife is Dominican. My son is Half Dominican and I might add that he is very handsome and smart. Which he got both from his mom. Now, don't get me wrong. I love the Dominican Republic. I love the women. But you will find things are different but good in Haiti. Don't just listen to me. Listen to Wapminnin and others like him.

Hey, my suggestion to you if you have more than a week is to fly to the DR spend some time, ride the bus to Haiti, and spend some time there. Then fly back to wherever from Haiti. You can also take that trip in reverse. I once had an old Englishman who had lived in Haiti from 18 years old until he died at 75 years old. He loved the Dominican girls better in Haiti than he did in the DR. He said they were more compassionate and he thought this was true because maybe they were lonely.


[QUOTE=Wapminnin]If you find someone just go and keep an open mind, lots of charities online based over there good way to meet people. Nice regular local girls.

People are friendly and go out there way to be nice and a few bucks goes a long way to get what you want. You can meet a nice girl for long term too.

Jamaica, Dominican Republic has more crime and you do feel safe in Haiti. Outside port au prince is even safer less people quiet towns.

If you are in port au prince you will find so many women (local) just relax be yourself and have someone that knows the area to get you to and from with no problem.

Want to retire there man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=David_33]Thanks for putting life into the Haiti thread. You mentioned that you have been there since Baby Doc was around. Do you remember the choo choo train restaurant on the way to the airport? Some German guy owned it and delivered the orders on a model train.

I set up a factory there in the late 1970´s. Went to all the Dominican ***** houses (and cuter Haitian) places out near the casino...(can´t remember the district´s name, its been so long).

Le Lambi for dancing...Ibo Beach and Ibo Lele hotel...anyway I imagine that ALL has changed, including places to stay. It appears that beheadings and kidnappings have diminished and maybe I should brush up on my creole and make a trip back this year.

Thanks again for the excellent posts and photos
My answers:

I remember the train but it has been gone for many years. Ibo Beach was burned and never reopened. Ibo Lele (sp) is still up on the mountain. The UN is using it and I do not know if there are rooms to rent at this time.
Courefoure (sp) is the place where all the houses use to be. Casa Blanca, Fiesta, Washington Bar and Hotel, Copa Cabana. The Copa is still there but the place is dead. Mostly Haitian guys hang out there and the Dominican Girls are of low quality. Most of the Dominican Girls are up in Petionville at the clubs there. They are run like the houses in the DR now which made me sway toward the Haitian girls. They want $100 or more to dake the girls out. I think the only business they get are the local drug dealers, which has dwindled since Aristide has left, and business men on expense accounts coming in to Haiti. To me, it is better to get a local that you find attractive and take her. She is not too greedy and may stay the entire time you are there. They love to be taught. Also, if it has been a long time since you were there, you will be amazed at the Haitian girls. Remember how they use to wear long loose dresses and were considered *****s by the locals if they wore shorts or pants during the day. Well, that has changed. They were short dresses or tight pants during the day and short shorts at night. I was amazed on my first trip back after a long absence. The girls are hot and they are not necessarily *****s. They are just everyday girls that you can talk in to bed very easily. Good luck on your visit and let me know. Maybe I will be setup to make it easier for everyone.

I only wish Haiti was the same as before Bebe Doc left and Aristide screwed it up. You had to have lived it to believe it. There use to be house after house with Dominican girls dancing to the music. They lived in little rooms with two beds if you want to call them beds. I prefer cots. You would have a selection of maybe 40 or 50 girls in some of these clubs. You would buy them a beer or 2 and decide which one you wanted. You may even decide to take her back to her for for $15 or $20 and sample it before you took her home for the night, weekend, week, month, year, or forever. I mean some of these babes looked modeling quality. You did not have to pay the house anything. Even if you took them with you. All they had to do was pay their room for the week which I think was $20. At this time, the DR was not much better off than Haiti. As a matter of fact, I think there was more money in Haiti than the DR. I remember one night when there was two that caught my eye and I could not decide so I kiddingly asked them both to go and to my surprise they were tickled. I switched back and forth until the sun was coming up and I think at that time I passed out. Later in the morning, I was awaken by the two with coffee and breakfast in bed. These girls could cook. They told me they wanted me to get my energy back up to see if I could do it again. I may add that I did. I gave them both $25 each and took them home. Two weeks later they showed up at my gate wanting to know if I could do that again. This time I did not last as long but it was good. They got up the next morning, made me breakfast and coffee, fed me, laid me again, and then left without asking for one penny. I was 34 then. I would try again but I don't think at 61 I could go all night.

HAPPY NEW YEAR guys and I hope next year many of you can celebrate New Years Eve with me in Haiti

Bad Bear, about to be conned in DR or in Haiti is a matter of experience and sometimes you need balls. In DR I am experienced, they cannot con me, with the right people I am generous and normally on long run it pays out. What is true is that crime has increased a lot during the last 5 years in DR. At the time before you could find beautiful haitianas in pequeno Haiti in Santo Domingo, nowadays is a no-go area. When I went to Haiti through Malpaso border by guagua, I went there with motoconcho and wanted to follow by the truck that was waiting there full of passengers. The customs officials was in a scam with a guy with a Suv wanted me to go to PAP for 50 US$. They did'nt let the truck leave until I had gone with the special car. At first I did'nt understand the scam do everybody had to wait for 2 hours, than I said I would walkto PAP and went on the way. Then the truck went on and they picked me up. The strange thing for us is that the locals did'nt get upset against the scammers and maybe also against me. I don't know Haiti so good but it is likely to be overpriced there, because there is not so many offer of hotels appartments and restaurants. Food generally is also more expensive. In Haiti really you have to know somebody who knows the ropes.

Yes Bad Bear, thanks for the waves of nostalgia. In case some of you guys think I must be an old geezer...I was a teenager in the baby doc days, hahaha. All you say is true. I loved visiting those houses with the Dominicans. They were ocean side, you would sit at table in a kind of outdoor courtyard with the girls rooms on all sides. You could dance merengue..get a bite to eat and obviously drink. I don´t know if you ever went in the afternoon. All the girls would be fixing themselves up...hair in curlers.

There was a casino there that Myer Lansky had set up after being booted from Cuba. All mafia guys who pulled tens from the deck (I got 86´d when I asked for a new deck of cards). They used to go to Ibo Beach on Sundays.

No crime. You could walk around with dollar bills hanging out of your pockets and nothing would happen. Justice was swift and effective. I once saw some guy who had made the mistake of robbing a camera, the police went at him with their clubs. If they didn´t kill him, they came close to it. Of course the U.S. in its wisdom stepped in in the name of "democracy" and screwed everything up. Elections in countries with little or no education nor history of voting is a recipe for disaster (Haiti, Iraq, Gaza, etc.)

I went many afternoons. Remember the girls would shower outside and I would go around and drink Prestige beer and watch those beautiful bodies. They always showered with their panties on. We would visit every chance we had and on the weekend nights we would go up to Biblos. I know you remember that. There was where all the Dominican girls would show up around 10 PM and there were a few that would put on the show. Around 11 PM they would start saying Showtime in 10 minutes. After about 2 hours they would say Showtime Now. And it would be a show. If you had a birthday and the girls knew it they would get you out on the floor and start trying to undress you while they are rubbing all over you. I heard there were times before the local churches started complaining they would actual give the guy a BJ on stage. I was never that lucky. If you left with a girl before show time you would have to pay $10 I think. If you waited until after showtime was over I think you paid $3 or $5 to take a girl home. If you got there early there was no cover but if you got there late there was a $3 cover. Once the girls got to know you they would tell you to go outside and wait. They would find you or if they needed a ride you may get the pleasure of taking several to there house which was the guy who owned the club. Many times I would be driving down Delmas while the girls in the rear wear rubbing my back and whispering into my ear and the girls in the front were rubbing on Mr Happy. And I guarantee he was VEEEEEEERRRY Happy. And yes there was no crime. Reagon's biggest mistake in office. He ran Bebe Doc off when he should have killed his wife or gave her to me because she was a hottie.



[QUOTE=David_33]Yes Bad Bear, thanks for the waves of nostalgia. In case some of you guys think I must be an old geezer...I was a teenager in the baby doc days, hahaha. All you say is true. I loved visiting those houses with the Dominicans. They were ocean side, you would sit at table in a kind of outdoor courtyard with the girls rooms on all sides. You could dance merengue..get a bite to eat and obviously drink. I don´t know if you ever went in the afternoon. All the girls would be fixing themselves up...hair in curlers.

There was a casino there that Myer Lansky had set up after being booted from Cuba. All mafia guys who pulled tens from the deck (I got 86´d when I asked for a new deck of cards). They used to go to Ibo Beach on Sundays.

No crime. You could walk around with dollar bills hanging out of your pockets and nothing would happen. Justice was swift and effective. I once saw some guy who had made the mistake of robbing a camera, the police went at him with their clubs. If they didn´t kill him, they came close to it. Of course the U.S. in its wisdom stepped in in the name of "democracy" and screwed everything up. Elections in countries with little or no education nor history of voting is a recipe for disaster (Haiti, Iraq, Gaza, etc.)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the first time I ever saw the porn video with the nun and the donkey was at Biblos. They would have a female impersonator lip sync also and then strip to the unpleasant falsyless ending. You know, we probably knew each other by sight. Small world and I am looking forward to meeting you upon my return to "Haiti ma ma cheri mwe".

Ok guys! What about some pictures? I want to see some haitian hootties.

I am looking at returning Feb 2009 but do not know exactly when at this time as when I go, it will be forever. Then you will get regular pics every week.


[QUOTE=Papi0170]Ok guys! What about some pictures? I want to see some haitian hootties.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I am looking at returning Feb 2009 but do not know exactly when at this time as when I go, it will be forever. Then you will get regular pics every week.[/QUOTE]

Hi BadBear2000!
I am back. I have been going all over the place and did not have much time to check the thread. I am back now.

Sorry to disappoint you but I did not get to go to Haiti in December as promised. I went to DR instead. Nothing unusual, but I had a good time. Keep the pictures coming!

Hey guys!
Until BadBear and others can send some great reports and pictures, can someone say something about Haiti? Please, don't let this thread die!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Papi0170]Hey guys!
Until BadBear and others can send some great reports and pictures, can someone say something about Haiti? Please, don't let this thread die!

Thanks[/QUOTE]
I too have been anxiously, with bated breath, for new contributions to the thread since I have already bought and paid for my tickets to Haiti.
I am anxious to know how much it costs for a nice meal at a restaurant there and how prices compare to the Dominican Republic. For example, is one Presidente the same price as a Prestige (I think that is the name of the local brew)?
I have been reading up on the local religion, vodou (aka voodoo) and it makes me wonder what influence it would have on the girls. Vodou is much more than bewitching, possession, and zombies, of course.
Finally, when you read the travel warnings of Canada and the U.S. State Department, it makes for dire reading and yet there are sites such as Haiti Watch and others on this thread that vouch for overall security, within reason. Perhaps someone there could provide pointers for us newbies who go there.

Thus, I shall go to Haiti with an open mind and a very, very wary eye. Based on my experience in the DR, the girls are worth it. My very best experiences were all with Haitians there.

I'm looking at going to Haiti in mid March and would like some advice. I've read a lot of posts on this thread mostly from BadBear and i think that I'm now ready to take the plunge. This will be my first trip to Haiti although I've been to the DR many times over the years. Based on BadBear and Wanimin's reports it seems that Haiti is no more dangerous than any other place as long as I keep my wits about me.

I still have a couple of questions before i book my vacation:

1. Are there any good beach towns to stay in or should i only stay in Port a Prince? Looking for something like Sosua or Caberete in the DR.

2. It seems that Petionville is mentioned a lot in posts as a part of town to stay in but is this close to other tourist things to do?

3. I like to get out and sight see and usually rent a car when in the DR, is it ok to rent one in Haiti, if not why?

Some info on me is that I'm an African-American 50 ish average looking english only speaking guy. Will my mongering experience still be good?

Thanks in advance for any info.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I too have been anxiously, with bated breath, for new contributions to the thread since I have already bought and paid for my tickets to Haiti.
[/QUOTE]

Take a lot of photos, anything from the place is interesting given the almost total lack of current information on the web. The most I've considered doing is going with my Haitian chica friend on her visa run (by bus almost 8 hours from SD) and cowering in petionville in a hotel while she takes care of business. Of course going with a girlfriend severely handicaps mongering activities. She confirms a story I'd heard that in some areas whites are so rare that children will run up pointing and yelling "Blan, Blan.." like you were a Martian.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Take a lot of photos, anything from the place is interesting given the almost total lack of current information on the web. The most I've considered doing is going with my Haitian chica friend on her visa run (by bus almost 8 hours from SD) and cowering in petionville in a hotel while she takes care of business. Of course going with a girlfriend severely handicaps mongering activities. She confirms a story I'd heard that in some areas whites are so rare that children will run up pointing and yelling "Blan, Blan.." like you were a Martian.[/QUOTE]

I promise. I plan to take all kinds of photos, monger-friendly and otherwise, security permitting.

I have had such experiences in my travels in Africa when I was in the hinterland, away from the city.

Afroski,

A friend and I are also contemplating being in PAP around mid-March. BadBear and one of his friends have us convinced. Planning on staying in the Petionville area.

[QUOTE=David_33]Afroski,

A friend and I are also contemplating being in PAP around mid-March. BadBear and one of his friends have us convinced. Planning on staying in the Petionville area.[/QUOTE]I was hoping to stay in or near a beach area. After doing some more reading it seems that either Jacmel or Cap Haitian might be good choices, what do you think?

IMHO if you want beaches you should go to the Dominican Republic.

I am thinking of going to haiti too.

Going to look into the safety issue.

And beard put up his number, so I may call him. I am also thinking of where I would visit.

I am in Los Angeles, hispanic.

Anyone down there now? Anybody there now, please give us a word about Haiti.

I think BadBear2000 is in Haiti now if everything went as planned for him. Please, say something. Thanks

Will be arriving in a few weeks. Have the tickets and hotel booked.

[QUOTE=David_33]Will be arriving in a few weeks. Have the tickets and hotel booked.[/QUOTE]

Thanks David!
Please, take a lot of pictures and share them with us. If you see some other fellows out there, encourage them to do the same. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Papi0170]Thanks David!
Please, take a lot of pictures and share them with us. If you see some other fellows out there, encourage them to do the same. Have fun![/QUOTE]

I have been living here nearly a year now and have posted a few times. The same questions keep coming up and they've all already been answered, pretty much: I personally wouldn't just be visiting and renting a car, unless you really are accustomed to exceptionally bad driving conditions. Certainly taking local buses is about the most hazardous act one could commit. Prices for most things, except beer, are more than the DR, and quality of 'holidaying' not as good. Sounds like the quality of ladies could be better, but id be judicious in that regard. Yeah, Haiti's still pretty bad place for 'better beaching', and relative to PaP, fairly little mongering action. Don't come looking or acting too lost or conspicuouis, s'il vous plait. Pretty hard to get around very much beyond Pietonville w/out French or Kreole, and only 10% speak French. Of course i find i don't have to bother w/entirely uneducated ladies here, either. I don't know what else to tell you...yeah, Haiti's 'great', but act smart and keep it on the low.

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr]I have been living here nearly a year now and have posted a few times. The same questions keep coming up and they've all already been answered, pretty much: I personally wouldn't just be visiting and renting a car, unless you really are accustomed to exceptionally bad driving conditions. Certainly taking local buses is about the most hazardous act one could commit. Prices for most things, except beer, are more than the DR, and quality of 'holidaying' not as good. Sounds like the quality of ladies could be better, but id be judicious in that regard. Yeah, Haiti's still pretty bad place for 'better beaching', and relative to PaP, fairly little mongering action. Don't come looking or acting too lost or conspicuouis, s'il vous plait. Pretty hard to get around very much beyond Pietonville w/out French or Kreole, and only 10% speak French. Of course i find i don't have to bother w/entirely uneducated ladies here, either. I don't know what else to tell you...yeah, Haiti's 'great', but act smart and keep it on the low.[/QUOTE]


Hi, I, and others, would be interested in knowing what you mean by looking conspicuous. Obviously, one should not go around in a suit totting expensive camera equipment, especially at night, especially in Cité Soleil but, honestly, just being white in an all-black country marks you out to begin with. What should we do, dress down? Tank shirts or old T-shirts in lieu of Lacoste shirts? Baseball hats instead of more elegant headgear? Grungy shorts instead of smart slacks? I know that in some countries, people are advised to dress down at airports so that later you are not marked out as being a rich target to shake down ... or worse.

Badbear insists that I shouldn't worry about security there as I suppose he has it figured out . I trust him and hope for the best.
I have travelled wide but I have survived hitherto because I am very cautious and seem have the requisite street smarts, so far at least. In any case, I would just like your informed opinion.

I am going to Haiti on March 10th. I sent the money to Sergo to by a nice little Kia SUV I inspected while I was there. He has it and is getting it checked out and paperwork legal. I will be meeting David and bringing him up to date on Haiti since it has been many years since he was there. boy is he going to be surprised at the way the Haitian Girls dress now. I bet I get at least 10 Yahooooooooooos on his way to the hotel. I will only be there one week but it is official now. I will be there permanently June 30 if not sooner. Now I was always one of those guys that made two lists. One why I should do something and another for why I should not do something

Here goes
Why should I go to Haiti?
1. I love young beautiful women (not babies)
2. I love pussy
3. I like warm weather
4. I like pussy
5. I like the laid back life
6. I like pussy
7. I have many friends for many years there
8. I like pussy
9. The people are very warm and friendly
10. I like pussy

Why I should not go to Haiti?
1. If I didn't love pussy
2. If I like cold weather.
3. If I liked old ugly fat women
4. If I liked women who have headaches every night
5. If I was scared of my shadow
6. bad roads
7. Too many vehicles

You see, I have a problem. On the should not side I can only find ifs. Fortunately these ifs do not apply to me. Our website will be up and running in March. I already have over 100 girls that have send me pics and emails. They have even called me. There are some real hotties that I shared with Dave because he has promised he will help me interview and take pics of the girls. This guy is a real sport. Can you imagine what he is going to go through taking pics of the girls, having to sex many of them, and god only knows what else. That takes real courage and I think we should all give him hand. Papio, I wish I could send you some pics on the IM here but I can't. Get me your email and I will shoot them over to you

Yes it is going to be a real sacrifice, but somebody has to help you out. I am taking my maca every day. The photos are truly breathtaking.

If all of you are gonna be there I better do the same.

[QUOTE=BootyLover]If all of you are gonna be there I better do the same.[/QUOTE]
Hey BootyL!
It's been a while since the last time we hear from you. We appreciate your input to this forum. When you head down there, please take lots of pictures and share them on this thread! Thanks!

Papio170, these pics are for you. I just wanted everyone to see a sample of the torture David and I are going through interviewing these disgusting Haitian girls. I know if you are truly our friends you are probably in tears wanting to save us from them with your help.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Papio170, these pics are for you. I just wanted everyone to see a sample of the torture David and I are going through interviewing these disgusting Haitian girls. I know if you are truly our friends you are probably in tears wanting to save us from them with your help.[/QUOTE]

Wow, BadBear, you've got me salivating already! As for myself, I am in tears not out of pity but because I am not already over there.
Is the last girl a Haitian? Very much on the light side.
Anyway, keep it up!!! M vle alle Ayiti kounye-a pou vwe fanm yo!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Papio170, these pics are for you. I just wanted everyone to see a sample of the torture David and I are going through interviewing these disgusting Haitian girls. I know if you are truly our friends you are probably in tears wanting to save us from them with your help.[/QUOTE]

Hey BigBadBear2000!

Thank you so much. I have been so hungry for some new pics. It was worth the wait. Keep up the good work.

Enjoy it while you can!

Hi badbear - I've really enjoyed your posts and photos: I'd never considered visiting Haiti before, but you've really put it on the map. Can you give a bit more information about your forthcoming website, and what you'll be doing over there? Are you planning on starting a monger-hotel like Blackbeards over the border in the Dominican Republic? Or are you just looking to hook up guys with babes? I sent you a PM too, did you get it?
Chris

Hi BadBear2000!
Thanks again for the photos, and I am looking forward to many more.

I just want to call your attention to my username. The name is Papi0170, not papio170. See my PM. This will help the flow of communication. Thanks!

I am almost sold on making my first trip to haiti after viewing those lovely pic from bad bear. I have a 1 week vacation starting April 4 to 11. Will there be any other members there at that time. Also more importantly can someone give me a pick up from the airport or give me a good contact to drive me to the hotel. You can send me the information through private message or I can contact you.

I can be bad bears first recruit to his beloved country.

Hahaha...BadBear is a real BAD BEAR...last pic that he posted and to which you commented is not a Haitian...she is one among the Indian Celebrity.

[url]http://www.santabanta.com/wallpapers/category.asp?catname=neetu%20chandra[/url]

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Wow, BadBear, you've got me salivating already! As for myself, I am in tears not out of pity but because I am not already over there.
Is the last girl a Haitian? Very much on the light side.

Anyway, keep it up!!! M vle alle Ayiti kounye-a pou vwe fanm yo![/QUOTE]

We´ll have to check this out.....I talked to her on the phone. She sounded snobby enough to be the girl in the photo. But there certainly is a resemblance.

Just a shoutout to David33 and Badbear to see how the interviewed girls are doing and if there are any pictures of them to be had.

My curiosity is getting the best of me.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Papio170, these pics are for you. I just wanted everyone to see a sample of the torture David and I are going through interviewing these disgusting Haitian girls. I know if you are truly our friends you are probably in tears wanting to save us from them with your help.[/QUOTE]

What is the trick Badbear? a lot of these girls aren't haitians

Yeah, some of the girls sent in fake pics. So Badbear had them come in personally and took photos and some flicks. He will probably post about his adventures. I'm in the lounge at Miami Intl. having missed my LAN flight to Lima, thanks to AA getting in late from Port-au-Prince. Once I'm back in Lima and have made up for lack of sleep in Haiti, I will post a report.

[QUOTE=David_33]Yeah, some of the girls sent in fake pics. So Badbear had them come in personally and took photos and some flicks. He will probably post about his adventures. I'm in the lounge at Miami Intl. having missed my LAN flight to Lima, thanks to AA getting in late from Port-au-Prince. Once I'm back in Lima and have made up for lack of sleep in Haiti, I will post a report.[/QUOTE]

Hi David!


I am glad that you and Badbear are not only surviving but thriving. I am hardly surpised that some of the girls might have tried to send a fake photo. In Third World countries with a barely functioning economy, such gambits are to be expected. I am glad that Badbear is/was/has been there to straighten things out.
I, nay we all, look very much forward to his reports, indeed to yours as well

I can assure you that any more pics I post on this sight or our new website will be taken first hand by me or my associate. I just got back last night and I can understand why David33 missed his flight. We were over 1 1/2 hours late on my flight the day before. Some crazy Haitian guy came on late and appeared to be drunk. Someone had taken his seat and he was yelling at the guy. The crew asked him to sit down anywhere until they got in the air and then they would resolve his seating problem. Thinking he as arguing with a taptap driver, he kept going so they had security escort him off the plane and then they had to take his luggage off.

But getting back to the more important things. I had over 120 girls contact info but due to a slow start and a short time frame we were only able to call about 60 of them. Several showed up. Some we have pics but no I.D.s so I cannot put them on our website yet. We do have a few and they will be available next week. We have short videos of each also which adds some charm to them. I was proposed by one hot looker which had no problem with my 61 years. As a matter of fact, when we got profiles on the girls, most of them were looking for a man between 25 and 60. Some even went up to 70. So old guys get wangers and tongues ready and let's go porking. I will give you some samples that I took myself.

David 33 was having some problems with the internet at the Villa Imperial but I found that most of the hotels were having problems. I spoke to the owner and he has agreed to meet with me on my return and will probably let me install Starband Commercial system at the hotels. Most hotels I have talked to will also do the same.

We are looking into renting a large house with pool and at least 5 bedrooms, each having private bathrooms. We are trying to help our fellow mongers have fun and a reasonable price.
Our website is cumming soon to a bed just for you and some hot Haitian babe.

there is no problem getting cutties in haiti that is will to do anything to make your stay a pleasant and fulfilled adventure and would appreciate gifts of 20 to 30. it takes a little time to get accustomed and before you know it you have spent a weeks vacation and it is time to leave and you did not get laid as many times as you wished. because of the f_ _ king un, everything has gotten expensive except pussy. the hotels have gone bananas and even thought the villa imperial is reasonable, we were having problems with the internet as it worked only about half the time.
i am planning to find a large house with pool with at least 5 bedrooms, each having a private bath. i am thinking about getting a very good cook to prepare meals because the restaurants are very expensive and i am sure you guys would rather spend your money on nookie and meals. i mean after all nookie is a meal in itself. most of the girls going on our sight has said they are looking for men 25 to 60 and some even went to 70

questions:
these are services i would like to offer but i need some feedback as to whether i could rely on all you mongers to visit every now and then.

1. pick you up at the airport and transport you to the house of love
2. provide you with a nice breakfast and lunch included in the room charge
3. have assorted drinks available for purchase at the local going prices
4. offer dinner of several choices for about 75% the local restaurant prices
5. have many bikini clad babes laying by the pool upon your arrival and during your stay
6. provide transportation down town at least once during the day and night per day
7. provide fast speed internet
8. provide free telephone service to the u.s.
9. provide inexpensive telephone service to other countries
10 provide translators for you to communicate with the girls or public
11.offer you tours of the area for a small fee
12.return you to the airport

would you be willing to spend $100 a day for these services. anything you work out with the girls is up to you. i will not get involve in those transactions. let me know

[quote=badbear2000]there is no problem getting cutties in haiti that is will to do anything to make your stay a pleasant and fulfilled adventure and would appreciate gifts of 20 to 30. it takes a little time to get accustomed and before you know it you have spent a weeks vacation and it is time to leave and you did not get laid as many times as you wished. because of the f_ _ king un, everything has gotten expensive except pussy. the hotels have gone bananas and even thought the villa imperial is reasonable, we were having problems with the internet as it worked only about half the time.
i am planning to find a large house with pool with at least 5 bedrooms, each having a private bath. i am thinking about getting a very good cook to prepare meals because the restaurants are very expensive and i am sure you guys would rather spend your money on nookie and meals. i mean after all nookie is a meal in itself. most of the girls going on our sight has said they are looking for men 25 to 60 and some even went to 70

questions:
these are services i would like to offer but i need some feedback as to whether i could rely on all you mongers to visit every now and then.

1. pick you up at the airport and transport you to the house of love
2. provide you with a nice breakfast and lunch included in the room charge
3. have assorted drinks available for purchase at the local going prices
4. offer dinner of several choices for about 75% the local restaurant prices
5. have many bikini clad babes laying by the pool upon your arrival and during your stay
6. provide transportation down town at least once during the day and night per day
7. provide fast speed internet
8. provide free telephone service to the u.s.
9. provide inexpensive telephone service to other countries
10 provide translators for you to communicate with the girls or public
11.offer you tours of the area for a small fee
12.return you to the airport

would you be willing to spend $100 a day for these services. anything you work out with the girls is up to you. i will not get involve in those transactions. let me know[/quote]

the pickup and dropoff at the airport is worth a lot to me.

to have a nice place to stay, access to internet, have a good chef and with fine svelte girls would be worth that money. however, i, for one, would not want a "blackbeards" à la puerto plata situation. i like the idea of a "hunt", not just having girls fawning over me automatically. others might like that but not me. let each have what they want in that department.

i, for one, can speak quite good french and quite passable krèyol and would not need the translation services (though i know others would). i would like to wine and dine the ladies. treat them like princesses. invite them to a nice restaurant downtown. buy things for them. tours would be nice.
the idea of you playing the middleman is appealing. quality has a price.
i might even bring as much wine i can stuff in my suitcase not to mention fine cuban cigars.

Dear Badbear

Thats is a great price for the service that you offer. I hope to be there on your grand opening night. I too would like to experience a marriage service with class that give us an opportunity to meet lovely women in a low key yet classy environment. I can't help thinking about the great film "Field of Dreams" and the classic line of the film "if you build it they will come" you should have no problem keeping your 5 room facility completely booked. I almost wish you would keep it unpublished and private but that is your call. As I said count me in also and I can't wait to see the website.

I like the sound of things. I would use all of the services you mentioned. The language help would be a big plus. I have been to Blackbeards 18+ times in the past three years and to Santiago 10+ times and would like a more private setting. A couple of girls around the pool is a nice touch as well.

I guess I am trying to get feedback from all you mongers. Our first sight is primarily for the reason to find husbands for these lonely Haitian Hotties but you and I know that most of you will go plant your seed and return to love another day. Since this sight is reaching out for nice Haitian girls that kept trying to get my room number for obviously more reasons that photos they wanted to keep it low profile so they would not pose in bikini or nude. I don't know about you but I like to get a real look at the horse I am going to ride so we are thinking about setting up a sight to show quite a bit more. This would require password protected sight. Are you guys willing to pay less say $10 to $15 a month to see nude pics, nude video, or even short sex videos so you will have a better idea of what you could get your hands on. Just let me know your feeling about this.

I had a cold most of the time I was there but Juliette did cum one night. She gave me a good massage, a great BBBJ, a little cow girl, back to the BBBJ, a little doggie, and a CIM BBBJ. So as you can see, even on a bad week there is always some good things happening in Haiti

After reading BadBears posts, seeing his pics and exchanging some E-mails, I convinced a friend of mine to go for it with me and we arrived in Port-au-Prince on the 12th. BadBear managed to bribe his way into customs as my friend´s bag was about the last off the carousel and he wanted to make sure we had actually made it to Haiti.

I lived and worked setting up a factory in Haiti a long time ago, so I was looking forward to getting back to Port-au-Prince. I was sad to see that it has changed for the worse in every way possible. The cause of these changes is the U.S. sticking its nose in the country´s affairs in the interest of “democracy”. EVERY Haitian I spoke with said that things were much better before. I was personally sickened watching U.N. and NGO 4x4 after 4x4 cruising the main drags. One would pass every couple of minutes. These parasites have filled up all the hotels. The U.N. cruising is costing more than $500,000,000 a year. Hey, why not? Its better than being in Darfur and getting shot at, right? Better off staying in Haiti and driving around in an air conditioned 4x4. Anyway, we stayed in a hotel which would cost around $15 a night in Peru. It cost us more than $50. Prices in Haiti are the same or higher than in the U.S. A medium Domino´s pizza cost $15. We paid around $140 for lunch for four.

The Haitians have also changed. When I lived there, there was practically no crime. Both BadBear and I got our cell phones ripped off. As someone who prides himself on knowing how to guard against such events, living as I do in Peru and having traveled to many third world countries, I am ashamed to admit that this happened to me. My excuse is that at the time I was distracted by a set of perfect boobs, (see pic below). There are also many Haitians with an attitude; some nasty looks, shitty service, this wasn´t like the Haiti I knew before. However I never felt like I was in any real danger of getting be-headed or kidnapped. The traffic is TERRIBLE and there are no taxis. So trying to get to the airport from our hotel was an interesting and relatively costly ($35) experience.

That is the bad, now for the good. BadBear is a nice guy and is getting some things going in Haiti. IMHO helping out mongerers is his best bet and he seems to be organizing a nice place to stay. He also has a bunch of girls who want to get married and some are real cuties for you guys who are looking for a hot wife. If one has a nice place to stay, and transport logistics completely worked out, most of the negatives will be eliminated. The girls are GREAT!!!!HOT!!!! CHEAP!!!, and ALL OVER THE PLACE. We aren´t talking Sosua-Pattaya-like pros yelling “papi” or “hansum man”, but normal girls who need some bucks. I usually paid $30 for a couple of hours. I probably could have paid $20 and had them stay the night, but I like to sleep by myself. I paid a little extra because I had them pose for pics, (they LOVE it), and got out the david_33-pervert vibrators (see pic below). I paid one girl $13, because she got a little hard core pro with me and I kicked her out. But other than that, all OK. My buddy met up with a super cutie that he ended up seeing for most of his time there. He was fixed up by a fellow ISG member who is Haitian and a great guy. His handle here is BootyLover. That said, if the babe he was fixing me up with the last night had shown up, I wouldn´t have been ripped off. But these things happen.

If BadBear gets it together I WILL go back to Haiti. If you like dark skinned girls, and you have someone on the ground to help you out with a decent place to stay and transport, I HIGHLY recommend a visit. If you are thinking of going on your own…think again, or spend some megabucks at one of the few 5 star hotels where they might be able to squeeze you in among the NGO and U.N. folk and drive you to and from the airport.

Some more pics:

[QUOTE=David_33]Some more pics:[/QUOTE]

That's some haitian chicks.

Very good work and for such nice boobs I would not mind loosing a cellphone!

[QUOTE=David_33]After reading BadBears posts, seeing his pics and exchanging some E-mails, I convinced a friend of mine to go for it with me and we arrived in Port-au-Prince on the 12th. BadBear managed to bribe his way into customs as my friend's bag was about the last off the carousel and he wanted to make sure we had actually made it to Haiti.

I lived and worked setting up a factory in Haiti a long time ago, so I was looking forward to getting back to Port-au-Prince. I was sad to see that it has changed for the worse in every way possible. The cause of these changes is the USA Sticking its nose in the country's affairs in the interest of "democracy". EVERY Haitian I spoke with said that things were much better before. I was personally sickened watching you. N. And NGO 4x4 after 4x4 cruising the main drags. One would pass every couple of minutes. These parasites have filled up all the hotels. The you. N. Cruising is costing more than $500, 000, 000 a year. Hey, why not? Its better than being in Darfur and getting shot at, right? Better off staying in Haiti and driving around in an air conditioned 4x4. Anyway, we stayed in a hotel which would cost around $15 a night in Peru. It cost us more than $50. Prices in Haiti are the same or higher than in the USA A medium Domino's pizza cost $15. We paid around $140 for lunch for four.

The Haitians have also changed. When I lived there, there was practically no crime. Both BadBear and I got our cell phones ripped off. As someone who prides himself on knowing how to guard against such events, living as I do in Peru and having traveled to many third world countries, I am ashamed to admit that this happened to me. My excuse is that at the time I was distracted by a set of perfect boobs, (see pic below). There are also many Haitians with an attitude; some nasty looks, shitty service, this wasn't like the Haiti I knew before. However I never felt like I was in any real danger of getting be-headed or kidnapped. The traffic is TERRIBLE and there are no taxis. So trying to get to the airport from our hotel was an interesting and relatively costly ($35) experience.

That is the bad, now for the good. BadBear is a nice guy and is getting some things going in Haiti. IMHO helping out mongerers is his best bet and he seems to be organizing a nice place to stay. He also has a bunch of girls who want to get married and some are real cuties for you guys who are looking for a hot wife. If one has a nice place to stay, and transport logistics completely worked out, most of the negatives will be eliminated. The girls are GREAT! HOT! CHEAP! , and ALL OVER THE PLACE. We aren't talking Sosua-Pattaya-like pros yelling "papi" or "hansum man", but normal girls who need some bucks. I usually paid $30 for a couple of hours. I probably could have paid $20 and had them stay the night, but I like to sleep by myself. I paid a little extra because I had them pose for pics, (they LOVE it), and got out the david_33-pervert vibrators (see pic below). I paid one girl $13, because she got a little hard core pro with me and I kicked her out. But other than that, all OK. My buddy met up with a super cutie and he ended up seeing for most of his time there. He was fixed up by a fellow ISG member who is Haitian and a great guy. His handle here is BootyLover. That said, if the babe he was fixing me up with the last night had shown up, I wouldn't have been ripped off. But these things happen.

If BadBear gets it together I WILL go back to Haiti. If you like dark skinned girls, and you have someone on the ground to help you out with a decent place to stay and transport, I HIGHLY recommend a visit. If you are thinking of going on your own. Think again, or spend some megabucks at one of the few 5 star hotels where they might be able to squeeze you in among the NGO and you. N. Folk and drive you to and from the airport.[/QUOTE]When you say "If you are thinking of going on your own. Think again, . " do you mean I shouldn't go if going alone? I'm thinking of coming down for Memorial Day weekend in May and definitely would be coming by myself.

[QUOTE=Afroski]When you say "If you are thinking of going on your own. Think again, . " do you mean I shouldn't go if going alone? I'm thinking of coming down for Memorial Day weekend in May and definitely would be coming by myself.[/QUOTE]

If you don't have contacts or friends in Haiti, or speak Creole well, it is a VERY difficult place to be alone.

I like the setup as proposed

I am in need any investors ?

Ciao

First of all, there is one thing I have picked up on David33 and his friend. They do not like the hardcore hookers. Me neither. I like the girlfriend attitude. The girls that will be visiting our house or getting on our website are not even prostitutes, they are girls looking for a guy for the future. You have to understand. In the U.S., you go out on a date, you buy the girl dinner, you take her dancing or to a movie, you take her home, and you give her a deep down the throat good night kiss. The next time, you may get lucky

I Haiti, you take the girl to dinner or to your bedroom. Either you start giving her a massage or she starts giving you a massage and you wind up sexing all night long. In the morning, she gives you a good bye kiss on the cheek. If she gives you a lip to lip deep kiss, she loves you. Kisses are more intimate to the Haitian girls that taking Mr Happy in her mouth or love tunnel.

Hey, you never can tell. You may actually find the girl you want to spend the rest of your life with or you may just find a girl for some good times with recurring events.

There is another thing. We want to make the whole area available to you because you may enjoy the hunt more than the actual act. I know I do. If you cannot find a girl in Haiti that lights up your lights, you have a serious problem or you are the walking dead.

Badbear is it possible to meet more ladies like the one with the red hair? I sent you a private message outlining my preferences. I understand you must be busy. However, I am literally 1 to 2 weeks away from deciding where to go. I was set on Sosua, but your plans and your new pics have me undecided. I would like to have a better idea of what to expect.

So if I understand you correctly BadBear, you are NOT talking about setting up a "Blackbeards" type of place. (NOTE: For those of you who don't know, Blackbeards is a place between Sosua and Puerto Plata, really isolated from anything. All the girls are hard core PROS and you could be f*&k #5 on the day for anyone of them....yuck). You are talking about having normal Haitian girls who are looking for decent guys? I think that's a GREAT idea. I think there are lots of guys who would love to meet a real girl, spend some time with the, maybe even develop relationships. I am sure that some of these girls will be there for "business" also whether you like it or not. Well, that's OK also I guess. There's a market for that too:)

If you are talking about about that, plus providing security, airport pick-up, food, lodging, translation services, tourist services, etc, then you are on to something. Having traveled to Haiti a few times myself, it would be an invaluable service. I had the honor of meeting you there and hanging out with you a few days and can vouch that you are a straight up guy. I can also vouch for the normal Haitian girls I met there who are sweet, kind, very sexy and VERY lovable. These are not the Haitian ho's you meet on the streets of Sosua guys!! I also love Haiti, and would love to see tourism start up for them again. Lord knows they could use the influx of capital there.

Count me in.....

well, everybody has their different interests/requirements, but here is my 2 cents worth....

i think the blackbeard-like resort is overkill.
i know you say that is not what you are doing, but if you have a villa, a chef and girls on call, that is substantially what it is.
yet you yourself have often said that it is not hard to close the deal with ordinary hatian girls - you just have to make some connections.

that is the service you can best provide - introductions/connections.
having a physical plant (hotel/restaurant) adds enormous costs and makes you vulnerable to criminal and police pressure. you want to get into paying protection money? well, you know haiti far better than i do, so i assume you understand the lay of the land.

as for services, i don't see an "all in one" service as being a good fit.
i should be able to cherry-pick my services. i just want airport pick-up and a translator, that's what i pay for. maybe hotel/villa rental referals. and i would like to be able to expense it, so it better not look like a escort service.

as for the web-site, i think it should be an introduction service - meet girls for dating or "guides" or "translators". they can communicate their interests. no need to be explicit about sexual services - a 20 year old girl who is interested in 30-50 year old guys for "romance" or "travel" is a pretty clear picture.

basically i think you have to start small (and cheap). setting up a web introduction service is a big enough project, but at least can be done part-time (i understood your main business was going to be running a plantation?) girls are not going to be able to pay to be on there, so it is up to the guys to pay - but really, how many guys are going to subscribe on an on-going basis for this? mostly, we are going to want a month or two of service just before a trip.

and for me, it is not so much the cost of paying for a web-site subscription, but the traceability of it - i don't want to leave tracks for auditors or divorce lawyers in my visa account. so a low-grade service that can be supported by advertising or something is much preferable.

again, i urge you to look at "date.ru" as a potential model (free site) or maybe "luckylovers.net" which men pay for by time segments. sites where you pay per contact i get a little suspicious of because they often have a high noise-to-signal ratio, i.e. a lot of false profiles, just to get guys to spend their credits.

the best model would be one where you (badbear enterprises) are promoting your fee-based services (airport transfers, hotel referals, maybe renting rooms in your villa if you decide to go that route) and use the web-based introduction service as a free loss-leader to drive visitors to your other services.

anyway, good luck and keep us informed!

[quote=badbear2000]there is no problem getting cutties in haiti that is will to do anything to make your stay a pleasant and fulfilled adventure and would appreciate gifts of 20 to 30. it takes a little time to get accustomed and before you know it you have spent a weeks vacation and it is time to leave and you did not get laid as many times as you wished...
i am planning to find a large house with pool with at least 5 bedrooms, each having a private bath.....
questions:
these are services i would like to offer but i need some feedback as to whether i could rely on all you mongers to visit every now and then.

1. pick you up at the airport and transport you to the house of love
2. provide you with a nice breakfast and lunch included in the room charge
3. have assorted drinks available for purchase at the local going prices
4. offer dinner of several choices for about 75% the local restaurant prices
5. have many bikini clad babes laying by the pool upon your arrival and during your stay
6. provide transportation down town at least once during the day and night per day
7. provide fast speed internet
8. provide free telephone service to the u.s.
9. provide inexpensive telephone service to other countries
10 provide translators for you to communicate with the girls or public
11.offer you tours of the area for a small fee
12.return you to the airport

would you be willing to spend $100 a day for these services. anything you work out with the girls is up to you. i will not get involve in those transactions. let me know[/quote]

Gentleman Travel,

Haiti is different than any other mongering destination I know of, in that there aren´t any taxis, traffic is worse than just about any place I´ve seen; about on a par with BKK, and most importantly there are practically NO GFE reasonably priced (under $120 or so) hotels available (due to NGO and UN presence). If you go to Rumania, you can rent a ST apt., no way in Haiti. So the basics are not available without an INCREDIBLE hassle. This is why it makes sense to set up a basic mongering infrastructure. If a visitor wants to be introduced, then BB will be able to make introductions. If the visitor wants to walk around Petionville and find his own chica, then that would be possible also.

[QUOTE=David_33]Gentleman Travel,

Haiti is different than any other mongering destination I know of, in that there aren´t any taxis, traffic is worse than just about any place I´ve seen; about on a par with BKK, and most importantly there are practically NO GFE reasonably priced (under $120 or so) hotels available (due to NGO and UN presence). If you go to Rumania, you can rent a ST apt., no way in Haiti. So the basics are not available without an INCREDIBLE hassle. This is why it makes sense to set up a basic mongering infrastructure. If a visitor wants to be introduced, then BB will be able to make introductions. If the visitor wants to walk around Petionville and find his own chica, then that would be possible also.[/QUOTE]

Hey David, BadBear2000, Bootylover, and all the others who have made valuable contributions to this forum, congratulations! David, special thank you for the pictures! Oh man! Oh man! I will check with you guys when I am ready. Bad Bear! Keep up the good work!

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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Well, everybody has their different interests/requirements, but here is my 2 cents worth....

I think the Blackbeard-like resort is overkill.
I know you say that is not what you are doing, but if you have a villa, a chef and girls on call, that is substantially what it is.

We are not having girls on call per say. We are merely inviting some of the girls that are going on our haitianbrides site to meet men. We do not tell them to expect money for sex.

Yet you yourself have often said that it is not hard to close the deal with ordinary Hatian girls - you just have to make some connections. We will help your hunting with transportation and translation if needed

That is the service you can best provide - introductions/connections.
Having a physical plant (hotel/restaurant) adds enormous costs and makes you vulnerable to criminal and police pressure.

We are merely looking at a nice house because of the costs associated with the hotels in Haiti due to the inflation caused by the UN. We will certainly give you info on the local hotels

You want to get into paying protection money? Well, you know Haiti far better than I do, so I assume you understand the lay of the land.

Yes, I do know Haiti and I have no intentions of paying protection money

As for services, I don't see an "all in one" service as being a good fit.
I should be able to cherry-pick my services. I just want airport pick-up and a translator, that's what I pay for. Maybe hotel/villa rental referals. And I would like to be able to expense it, so it better not look like a escort service.

As for the web-site, I think it should be an introduction service - meet girls for dating or "guides" or "translators". They can communicate their interests. No need to be explicit about sexual services - a 20 year old girl who is interested in 30-50 year old guys for "romance" or "travel" is a pretty clear picture. When you learn the Haitian girl's mentality you will see the light. Most Haitian girls think older men are more secure than younger men. Even the Haitian men have younger girl friends or wives.

Basically I think you have to start small (and cheap). Setting up a web introduction service is a big enough project, but at least can be done part-time (I understood your main business was going to be running a plantation?) Girls are not going to be able to pay to be on there, so it is up to the guys to pay - but really, how many guys are going to subscribe on an on-going basis for this? Mostly, we are going to want a month or two of service just before a trip.

I agree

And for me, it is not so much the cost of paying for a web-site subscription, but the traceability of it - I don't want to leave tracks for auditors or divorce lawyers in my Visa account. So a low-grade service that can be supported by advertising or something is much preferable.

Again, I urge you to look at "date.ru" as a potential model (free site) or maybe "LuckyLovers.net" which men pay for by time segments. Sites where you pay per contact I get a little suspicious of because they often have a high noise-to-signal ratio, i.e. a lot of false profiles, just to get guys to spend their credits.

The best model would be one where you (BadBear Enterprises) are promoting your fee-based services (airport transfers, hotel referals, maybe renting rooms in your villa if you decide to go that route) and use the web-based introduction service as a free loss-leader to drive visitors to your other services.

Anyway, good luck and keep us informed![/QUOTE]

Guys,

I am new to the forum but have been to the D.R. about 30 times in the last four years along with Venz. and C.R.

I have been trying to figure out a way to visit Haiti and still stay with in the safety guidelines that seem to be required. i.e. someone meet you at the airport that you trust ect.

I think I would like to go to Jacmel. Can anyone help with contacts of someone I could hire for the time I am there and any other info would be helpfull.

[QUOTE=Clayshooter]Guys,

I am new to the forum but have been to the D.R. about 30 times in the last four years along with Venz. and C.R.

I have been trying to figure out a way to visit Haiti and still stay with in the safety guidelines that seem to be required. i.e. someone meet you at the airport that you trust ect.

I think I would like to go to Jacmel. Can anyone help with contacts of someone I could hire for the time I am there and any other info would be helpfull.[/QUOTE]You many want to postpone your plans to haiti until badbear2000 gets his plans off the ground. If you go back through various posts, you will see what he and a friend of his are trying to work on. In a nut shell, he is working on friendly, affordable accomodations. Shuttle service to and from airport and most importanly, contacts for lovely GF companpanions throughout your stay. My suggestion is: until all is finalized, your best bet for haitians is Sosua.

My friend for 28 years in Haiti is from the Jacmel area. The roads to Jacmel have gotten bad over the years due to lack of maintenance. There was a time when I use to go there in about 1 1/2 hours. It is my understanding that it takes over 2 hours now. The roads are security safe and once you get to Jacmel, in my opinion, you just arrived to a small piece of paradise. If it is after June 30, I will be there with our overall plan in place



[QUOTE=Clayshooter]Guys,

I am new to the forum but have been to the D.R. about 30 times in the last four years along with Venz. and C.R.

I have been trying to figure out a way to visit Haiti and still stay with in the safety guidelines that seem to be required. i.e. someone meet you at the airport that you trust ect.

I think I would like to go to Jacmel. Can anyone help with contacts of someone I could hire for the time I am there and any other info would be helpfull.[/QUOTE]

Gentleman Travel, I can appreciate your assuming we have a Cat House but the fact is we will not have this. If you knew the Haitian girls like I know you would understand. There are 7 or 8 girls to every guy. If they get past 25 and do not have a husband or at least a steady in house boyfriend they fear being an old maid. In many cases this will happen. Perhaps we are playing on the innocent girls affection but the way I see it. You never can tell when one of you guys show up and find some babe with whom you wouldn't mind spending your remaining year. Then again, you may just be a one week fling with a honey that you will take to restaurants, give her gifts, and a few dollars that she would not have had. They are going to try everything to convince you to love them. If we sense or get reports that we have hard core pros there, we will not invite them again. We are going to offer in house food because of the high cost in restaurants. This does not mean you have to eat our food. If you have deep pockets then we encourage you to visit the local restaurants as there are some very good ones located in Petionville. Also we will offer transportation because of the up and down cost of the taxis. IF you like the hunt, then we will accommodate you there. My self, I would probably check what is available and then go for the hunt. Sometimes the hunt is actually more fun than the kill.

Also, as far as paper trails to you, since you already have contact info, you can actually contact me thru other avenues.



[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Well, everybody has their different interests/requirements, but here is my 2 cents worth....

I think the Blackbeard-like resort is overkill.
I know you say that is not what you are doing, but if you have a villa, a chef and girls on call, that is substantially what it is.
Yet you yourself have often said that it is not hard to close the deal with ordinary Hatian girls - you just have to make some connections.

That is the service you can best provide - introductions/connections.
Having a physical plant (hotel/restaurant) adds enormous costs and makes you vulnerable to criminal and police pressure. You want to get into paying protection money? Well, you know Haiti far better than I do, so I assume you understand the lay of the land.

As for services, I don't see an "all in one" service as being a good fit.
I should be able to cherry-pick my services. I just want airport pick-up and a translator, that's what I pay for. Maybe hotel/villa rental referals. And I would like to be able to expense it, so it better not look like a escort service.

As for the web-site, I think it should be an introduction service - meet girls for dating or "guides" or "translators". They can communicate their interests. No need to be explicit about sexual services - a 20 year old girl who is interested in 30-50 year old guys for "romance" or "travel" is a pretty clear picture.

Basically I think you have to start small (and cheap). Setting up a web introduction service is a big enough project, but at least can be done part-time (I understood your main business was going to be running a plantation?) Girls are not going to be able to pay to be on there, so it is up to the guys to pay - but really, how many guys are going to subscribe on an on-going basis for this? Mostly, we are going to want a month or two of service just before a trip.

And for me, it is not so much the cost of paying for a web-site subscription, but the traceability of it - I don't want to leave tracks for auditors or divorce lawyers in my Visa account. So a low-grade service that can be supported by advertising or something is much preferable.

Again, I urge you to look at "date.ru" as a potential model (free site) or maybe "LuckyLovers.net" which men pay for by time segments. Sites where you pay per contact I get a little suspicious of because they often have a high noise-to-signal ratio, i.e. a lot of false profiles, just to get guys to spend their credits.

The best model would be one where you (BadBear Enterprises) are promoting your fee-based services (airport transfers, hotel referals, maybe renting rooms in your villa if you decide to go that route) and use the web-based introduction service as a free loss-leader to drive visitors to your other services.

Anyway, good luck and keep us informed![/QUOTE]

To all you hard core mongerers (like me), who have absolutely NO INTEREST in a LTR; there are plenty of hot cuties around who are overjoyed at the possibility of being able to earn some bucks for a couple of hours, or a night´s company. Don´t get scared off by all this talk of girls for marriage.

Very true. I have had several hundred Haitian girls over the last few years and I AIN'T married yet.


[QUOTE=David_33]To all you hard core mongerers (like me), who have absolutely NO INTEREST in a LTR; there are plenty of hot cuties around who are overjoyed at the possibility of being able to earn some bucks for a couple of hours, or a night´s company. Don´t get scared off by all this talk of girls for marriage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Gentleman Travel, I can appreciate your assuming we have a Cat House but the fact is we will not have this. If you knew the Haitian girls like I know you would understand. There are 7 or 8 girls to every guy. If they get past 25 and do not have a husband or at least a steady in house boyfriend they fear being an old maid. In many cases this will happen. Perhaps we are playing on the innocent girls affection but the way I see it. You never can tell when one of you guys show up and find some babe with whom you wouldn't mind spending your remaining year. Then again, you may just be a one week fling with a honey that you will take to restaurants, give her gifts, and a few dollars that she would not have had. They are going to try everything to convince you to love them. If we sense or get reports that we have hard core pros there, we will not invite them again. We are going to offer in house food because of the high cost in restaurants. This does not mean you have to eat our food. If you have deep pockets then we encourage you to visit the local restaurants as there are some very good ones located in Petionville. Also we will offer transportation because of the up and down cost of the taxis. IF you like the hunt, then we will accommodate you there. My self, I would probably check what is available and then go for the hunt. Sometimes the hunt is actually more fun than the kill.

Also, as far as paper trails to you, since you already have contact info, you can actually contact me thru other avenues.[/QUOTE]Badbear is absolutely right. The hardcore monger does, often times, enjoy the hunt more so than the score. Especially true when one has found an untouched, diamond in the rough! That diamond has got to be ofcourse, slim, small waisted and have big natural tits!

The rise in popularity of Haiti could be resting on your shoulders my friend.

[QUOTE=Macrino]Badbear is absolutely right. The hardcore monger does, often times, enjoy the hunt more so than the score. Especially true when one has found an untouched, diamond in the rough! That diamond has got to be ofcourse, slim, small waisted and have big natural tits!

The rise in popularity of Haiti could be resting on your shoulders my friend.[/QUOTE]

I have already bought my ticket and, pending communication from Bad Bear himself, will be one of his first. I trust that everything will be up and running by the summer (my only worry is hurricanes in August). I will be going to Sosúa first and shortly after to Haiti itself. I will report on the comparisons and obvious differences. As I have reported in previous posts, including the Sosúa thread, I have partaken of Haitian girls and am anxious to see what Haitians who have not been to Dominican Republic are like. The ones I met are obviously different since they speak, sort of, Spanish and tend to copy the Dominicanas as far as shaving their bush is concerned (which I hate).

My appreciation goes out to Badbear and I hope to see him in August. I hope to be one of the first of a great trend.

Peace

Plenty of Hair in Haiti.

I mentioned to David 33 if he thought it would be good to have waterbeds in some rooms and he suggested I get you guys view. So lets hear from you. What do you think? They would of course be waveless and have lumbar support for us old f_ _ kers

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I mentioned to David 33 if he thought it would be good to have waterbeds in some rooms and he suggested I get you guys view. So lets hear from you. What do you think? They would of course be waveless and have lumbar support for us old f_ _ kers[/QUOTE]I would say stick with the regular mattress about knee-high for the best possible leverage. Also, they are much more durable.

[QUOTE=David_33]Plenty of Hair in Haiti.[/QUOTE]
Hi David.

That is great to hear. By the way, who was the girl in pictures Haiti06-Haiti11? These are the pictures that you posted. She is just the ticket for me. How old is she? Is she available? Anything that you could say about her? My mouth is watering.

She looks a lot better in person, tall and model-like. She is 19 as I remember, and is one of BootyLover´s friends. As soon as I got out the camera she began to pose and take off her clothes. Hot blooded and a good experience. I suggest you PM BootyLover for an introduction.

That would be the problem. With my job I typically only have about a weeks notice. If it looks like the first of july when you will be set up maybe is better to wait until then. I do thank you for the info.

If I were to go before I assume that ladies in Jacmel are as easy to meet as in the other areas maybe just not as plentifull.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]My friend for 28 years in Haiti is from the Jacmel area. The roads to Jacmel have gotten bad over the years due to lack of maintenance. There was a time when I use to go there in about 1 1/2 hours. It is my understanding that it takes over 2 hours now. The roads are security safe and once you get to Jacmel, in my opinion, you just arrived to a small piece of paradise. If it is after June 30, I will be there with our overall plan in place[/QUOTE]

Some good stuff coming out of there. I have been to the DR too many times and is time for a switch.

The Caribbean is so close that is hard not to think about it. I just returned from Africa (report to follow) and it was pretty awesome but when you factor the cost of the flight (almost $1500) vs what I would pay to fly to the DR/Haiti ($400 or so)...guess what I can do with the rest of that cash.

One question: people have mentioned the lack of english but I wonder...do a fair percentage of the chicks speak some spanish perhaps?

TIA

We should be ready to roll by July.


[QUOTE=Clayshooter]That would be the problem. With my job I typically only have about a weeks notice. If it looks like the first of july when you will be set up maybe is better to wait until then. I do thank you for the info.

If I were to go before I assume that ladies in Jacmel are as easy to meet as in the other areas maybe just not as plentifull.[/QUOTE]

Some of the girls speak English and some speak spanish. They all speak the universal language. SEX

[QUOTE=Concarne]Some good stuff coming out of there. I have been to the DR too many times and is time for a switch.

The Caribbean is so close that is hard not to think about it. I just returned from Africa (report to follow) and it was pretty awesome but when you factor the cost of the flight (almost $1500) vs what I would pay to fly to the DR/Haiti ($400 or so)...guess what I can do with the rest of that cash.

One question: people have mentioned the lack of english but I wonder...do a fair percentage of the chicks speak some spanish perhaps?

TIA[/QUOTE]

Some basic Creole is not hard to learn. Appears that most foreigners don´t even make the effort because when I spoke it (limited and probably poorly), the locals seemed to be pleasantly surprised. If you are seriously thinking about checking out the next great mongering destination, consider going here:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_5?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=haitian+creole&sprefix=haiti[/url]

and picking up the language basics. At least enough to say for example "could you please sit on my face": "si voux ple, esko ou kab shita sou figi mwe", or something like that.

here's some ceole that will be on badbears upcoming haitianbrides site:

learn creole
[b]for our clients, we will be supplying you with a great english>creole language cd before you depart for haiti. [/b]in the meantime, you can learn some creole below:

creole - english
* * * * * * * * * * *
bonjou! - good morning!
bonswa! - good afternoon!/evening! (used after 11 am)
komon ou ye? - how are you?
n'ap boule! (most common greeting and response) - good!
wi - yes
yo - they, them
non - no
mesi - thanks
anmwe! - help!
non, mesi - no, thanks
souple - please
merite - you're welcome
pa gen pwoblem - no problem
oke - ok
eskize mwen - excuse me
mwen regret sa - i'm sorry
gen... - there is/are...
pa genyen! - there is/are not any!
mwen pa genyen! - i don't have any!
sekonsa! - that's right!
piti piti - a little bit
anpil - a lot
gen anpil... - there are a lot of...
isit - here
la - there
tout bagay anfom? - is everything ok?
pa kounye-a - not now
toupatou - everywhere
anyen - nothing
preske - almost
atansyon! - attention!/watch out!
prese prese! - hurry!
dife! - fire!
rete! - stop!
kounye-a - now
nou ap chache... - we are looking for...
souple, ban mwen... - please give me...
separe sa ant nou - divide this among you
ye - yesterday
jodia - today
demen - tomorrow
maten an - this morning
apremidi a - this afternoon
aswe a - this evening
lendi - monday
madi - tuesday
mekredi - wednesday
jedi - thursday
vandredi - friday
samdi - saturday
dimanch - sunday
ou byen? - you ok?
mwen pa two byen - i'm not too well
mwen malad - i'm sick
te gen yon aksidan - there was an accident
nou bezwen yon dokte/yon mis touswit - we need a doctor/a nurse right now
kote iopital ia? - where is the hospital?
kote ii ou fe mal? - where does it hurt you?
li ansent - she's pregnant
mwen pa ka manje/domi - i cannot eat/sleep
mwengendjare - i have diarrhea
mwen anvi vonmi - i feel nauseated
tout ko mwen cho - my whole body is hot
mwen toudi - i'm dizzy
nou bezwen pansman/koton - we need bandages/cotton
mwen bezwen yon bagay pi blese sa a - i need something for this cut
ou gen sida - you have aids
mwen grangou - i'm hungry
mwen swaf anpil - i'm very thirsty
nou ta vle manje - we would like to eat
konben - how much?/how many?
poukisa? - why?
kote? - where?
kisa? - what?
kile? - when?
ki moun? - who?
kijan? - how?
kiles? - which?
eske gen...? - is/are there...?
eske ou gen...? - do you have...?
eske ou ka ede nou, souple? - can you help us please?
kote nou ka achte...? - where can we buy...?
eske ou ka di mwen...? - can you tell me...?
montre - show
ban - give
ki moun ki ia? - who is there?
kisa ou vie? - what do you want?
kisa ou ta via? - what would you like?
kisa ou ap fe ia? - what are you doing there?
kisa sa a ye? - what is that?
sa k'genyen? - what's the matter?
kisa pi nou fe? - what must we do?
eske ou te we...? - have you seen...?
eske ou pale angle/franse? - do you speak english/french?
ki moun isit ki pale angle? - who speaks english here?
ou konprann? - you understand?
kij an yo rele sa an kreyol? - what do they call that increole?
kij an yo di...an kreyol? - how do they say... in creole?
kisa ou bezouen? - what do you need?
kisa ki rive ou? - what happened to you?
ki kote li ale? - where did he go?
kilaj ou? - how old are you?
kote ou rete? - where do you live?
eske ou gen petit? - do you have any children?
kote nou ye? - where are we?
genyen - to have
chita - to sit
manje - to eat
rete - to stop
kouri - to run
kouche - to lie down
vini - to come
ale/prale - to go
ban - to give
rete trankil - to be quiet
pran - to get, receive
leve - to get up
sede - to give up
touye - to kill
frape - to hit
kache - to hide
konnen - to know
manti - to lie (not truth)
gade - to look
koupe - to cut
kwit-manje, fe-manje - to cook
fimen - to smoke
atake - to attack
ban pemi - to authorize
kri - to shout, yell, scream
achte - to buy
fe-apel - to call, name
netwaye - to clean
femen - to close
fose - to coerce, force
fini - to finish
obeyi - to obey
fe - konfyans - to trust
console - to comfort
pati - to leave, depart
mouri - to die
fe-desen - to draw, sketch
bwe - to drink
tonbe - to drop, fall
mete abo - embark, load, board
atoure - to surround
ranfose - to enforce
ou - you, your
mwen - i, me, my, mine
nou - us, our, you (plural)
ii - him, her, his, hers

* * * * * * * * * * * *
pronunciation guide
creole is written phonetically. each letter is pronounced, and each word is spelled as it is pronounced. creole has only been recognized as the official language of haiti in the last few years. therefore, there are many different ways in which the haitians write and spell creole words. there is an official standard that has been set, and this standard will be maintained in this publication. the following is a pronunciation guide using this standard; most of the sounds are french.

ch-share chache-to look for
o-claw fo-strong
e-aim ede-to aid, help
ou-you ou-you
e-leg mesi-thank you
r-(not rolled) respire-to breathe
g-go gen-to have
i-see isit-here
s-(always s) prese-in a hurry
j-(avoid the d sound) jou-day
y-yes pye-foot
o-toe zo-bone
there are nasal sounds in creole just as there are nasal sounds in french, which are pronounced partially through the nose, but without the "n" itself pronounced (a rare exception to the general pronunciation rule of pronouncing every letter). some english equivalents which come close to the nasal sounds are as follows:

an-alms dan-tooth
en-chopin pen-bread
on-don't bon-good

a. when a nasal sound is followed by another "n", or "m," the nasal sound is pronounced, then the "n" or "m" is pronounced separately.
b. if an accent is placed over the vowel, there is no nasal sound.
c. in never indicates a nasal sound.
the letter c is only used in the ch combination.
the letter k is used for the hard sound.
the letter s is used for the soft sound.

[QUOTE=David_33]Some basic Creole is not hard to learn. Appears that most foreigners don´t even make the effort because when I spoke it (limited and probably poorly), the locals seemed to be pleasantly surprised. If you are seriously thinking about checking out the next great mongering destination, consider going here:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_5?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=haitian+creole&sprefix=haiti[/url]

and picking up the language basics. At least enough to say for example "could you please sit on my face": "si voux ple, esko ou kab shita sou figi mwe", or something like that.[/QUOTE]
I highly recommend Wally Turnbill's book. It explains the basic grammar quite well though I think that his accent (there are CDs that can be had with it) is rather suspect. If someone really wants to get into the learning, I would also recommend works by the Creole Insitute of Indiana University such as "Ann pale kreyòl" which can be found at
[url]http://www.indiana.edu/~creole/abstract.html#_Haitian_Creole-English_Bilingual[/url]

If you already know French, Kreyòl is a real cinch. Even if you don't, it is not too hard. Much easier than Spanish. No irregular verbs, genders, etc.

The Prinsleur method has good speakers but it is extremely basic. A good beginning though.
These books have helped me immensely in my stay in Sosúa when I wanted to talk to Haitian girls. I am excited to see how I will fare in Haiti itself.

Baum Mway CoCo Give me pussy
Baum Mway Tibef Give me a BJ
Ou gayne belle boondow You have a beautiful ass

Now I don't know if that is the correct spelling but you say it like it is written

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Baum Mway CoCo Give me pussy
Baum Mway Tibef Give me a BJ
Ou gayne belle boondow You have a beautiful ass

Now I don't know if that is the correct spelling but you say it like it is written[/QUOTE]

Pardon me if I correct the spelling. I think it would be:

[B]Bay mwen koko [/B] Give me (your) pussy
[bye mwEN ko ko]
(the EN means the n is nasalized, i.e. said through the nose)

[B]Bay mwen tibèf [/B] Gimme a BJ (Lit. give me calf)
[bye mwEN tsee bef]

[B]Ou genyen bèl bounda [/B] You have a beautiful ass
[oo gEN yEN bell boon-dah]

Does the word "bounda" come from Brazilian troops stationed there? It is similar to Portuguese "bunda".

How would you see such things as

clit
DATY

Any cute little sayings or sweet nothings to whisper in her ear would be helpful. I am sure your people around you could think up of some.

Keep up the good work!!

Thanks for the spelling correction

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Pardon me if I correct the spelling. I think it would be:

[B]Bay mwen koko [/B] Give me (your) pussy
[bye mwEN ko ko]
(the EN means the n is nasalized, i.e. said through the nose)

[B]Bay mwen tibèf [/B] Gimme a BJ (Lit. give me calf)
[bye mwEN tsee bef]

[B]Ou genyen bèl bounda [/B] You have a beautiful ass
[oo gEN yEN bell boon-dah]

Does the word "bounda" come from Brazilian troops stationed there? It is similar to Portuguese "bunda".

How would you see such things as

clit
DATY

Any cute little sayings or sweet nothings to whisper in her ear would be helpful. I am sure your people around you could think up of some.

Keep up the good work!![/QUOTE]

Keep it simple for these foreigners. Instead of "ban mwen," use the contraction "Ban'm". Ex: Ban'm koko = give me pussy

Also, bounda has been in use in kreyol since well before the arrival of MINUSTAH in 2004.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Pardon me if I correct the spelling. I think it would be:

[B]Bay mwen koko [/B] Give me (your) pussy
[bye mwEN ko ko]
(the EN means the n is nasalized, i.e. said through the nose)

[B]Bay mwen tibèf [/B] Gimme a BJ (Lit. give me calf)
[bye mwEN tsee bef]

[B]Ou genyen bèl bounda [/B] You have a beautiful ass
[oo gEN yEN bell boon-dah]

Does the word "bounda" come from Brazilian troops stationed there? It is similar to Portuguese "bunda".

How would you see such things as

clit
DATY

Any cute little sayings or sweet nothings to whisper in her ear would be helpful. I am sure your people around you could think up of some.

Keep up the good work!![/QUOTE]

The word Bunda was there long before the U.N. parasites arrived, seems that it was originally african and then picked up by the portuguese as well as becoming a part of Caribbean French Creole. I tried to get a "bunda" vanity plate for my car in the States. Was denied so I had to go with "bundah" which was accepted.

I was calling Bunda about 27 years ago. So you are right. The only thing the UN brought was inflation and added traffic jambs


[QUOTE=David_33]The word Bunda was there long before the U.N. parasites arrived, seems that it was originally african and then picked up by the portuguese as well as becoming a part of Caribbean French Creole. I tried to get a "bunda" vanity plate for my car in the States. Was denied so I had to go with "bundah" which was accepted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I was calling Bunda about 27 years ago. So you are right. The only thing the UN brought was inflation and added traffic jambs[/QUOTE]

Yeah guys! That was the word for ass way back in "82 when I used to go there two or three times a year all the way through 1990. It's nothing new. I am going to have to come down there man! I miss it big time! Keep posting guys! More pics please!

Just wanted to say, you guys should check out social networking sites to set some things up for any trips to Haiti. Hi5.com has a ton of Haitian girls in all colors, shapes, and sizes. When I last went in October I spent the night with this girl. But I must warn you, these girls will try to use voodoo on you and sometimes it will work. This girl did some stuff on me that had me literally about to lose my mind and go insane. I've wisened up so I don't regret anything. Especially considering I got a night of incredible sex with her. I held back from sharing anything because I was a bit embarrassed by how I was getting taken by this girl, but I'm past all that now. At least I got to hit it.

What a babe!!!

Badbear and David. Just wanted to let you know that I had a great time in sosua with a number of beautiful haitian girls. I hope you get your plans off the ground real soon. Haiti is on my radar screen!

I will be making a short trip to Haiti on May 13th to the 19th. It is to check for houses to create a haven for all you hornie old men. It is also a trip to clean my tubes. I will post more pics this time. I hope we have everything up and running by July. If not, I will be there to assist in hotel locations, transportation, and be a Babe Dog. You know! Like a Bird Dog but pointing out the Babes

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I will be making a short trip to Haiti on May 13th to the 19th. It is to check for houses to create a haven for all you hornie old men. It is also a trip to clean my tubes. I will post more pics this time. I hope we have everything up and running by July. If not, I will be there to assist in hotel locations, transportation, and be a Babe Dog. You know! Like a Bird Dog but pointing out the Babes[/QUOTE]Reliable fast internet and horny Haitianas is all I need. Not in that order. These putas are pros from DR. Had it with professional novias. Haiti is the answer! See ya soon BB.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I will be making a short trip to Haiti on May 13th to the 19th. It is to check for houses to create a haven for all you hornie old men. It is also a trip to clean my tubes. I will post more pics this time. I hope we have everything up and running by July. If not, I will be there to assist in hotel locations, transportation, and be a Babe Dog. You know! Like a Bird Dog but pointing out the Babes[/QUOTE]Badbear:

Can I tag along? Would like to be in Haiti while you are down there to show me a few things. The dates of your trip coincide with mine.

No problem. PM me and I will give you all the contact info


QUOTE=Macrino]Badbear:

Can I tag along? Would like to be in Haiti while you are down there to show me a few things. The dates of your trip coincide with mine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]No problem. PM me and I will give you all the contact info


QUOTE=Macrino]Badbear:

Can I tag along? Would like to be in Haiti while you are down there to show me a few things. The dates of your trip coincide with mine.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Hey Guys!
I am waiting patiently for some new pictures on this thread. I am looking forward to BadBear's next trip and the other guys who will be there soon. I am working on something to see when I can come down. Peace!

There is one thing I want everyone to know. I will be very open with all of you about myself. I think you will need to feel you can trust me and I have no wife or girl friend to hide my life from. I realize that some of you guys have other lives besides playing with hot young babes and I can appreciate that since I was married three times. What I will know about you when you come to Haiti to prowl with me will stay with me. I will not share any info with other mongers. Now, if you come and you want the other guys to know you personally that is up to you. As far as I am concerned when I mention what a great time any of you have had in Haiti, it will be your WSG name on this sight. I plan on making Haiti the Monger Capital of the World. So Let's do it. I am even going to invite Jackson to come down for a while.

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]Although I haven't been to Haiti yet, I have been to the DR often enough that I know that the babes in Haiti super special, unlike the Sosua pros. Too many lies in the DR. I hope that in Haiti, without so MANY lies, my dreams and your dreams will come true. I don't need a cold piece o' pro. I need a hot Hatian! Or a few of 'them.[/QUOTE]The girls in Haiti are professional liars, dude.

[QUOTE=Lagocache]The girls in Haiti are professional liars, dude.[/QUOTE]Not to be too cynical, but is this not true of Caribbean/West Indian women in general - at least those whom we as mongers are apt to encounter? As the old saying goes, "you pays your money and you takes your chances."

One of the girls that is going to be on our sight told me that all American men just come to Haiti to screw and then go home.

The same girl told me that most young girls would have sex with the older men so they may take them back to the US where after a while they would dump them for younger men.

My question to her was, "And". She looked at the other girls kinda sheepish and said I guess it goes both ways.

I am not guaranteeing that every one of you guys are going to go to Haiti and find a wife. But I will guarantee you can get more black tight nookie in Haiti than you will know what to do with

I say go to Haiti, fall in love every night, return home, and live to return to Haiti and fall in love again




[QUOTE=Lagocache]The girls in Haiti are professional liars, dude.[/QUOTE]

I am in contact with one of our girls from our new website. Ayyyypapi, either call me or check your email for info. The one you are so hot for is ready to meet you.

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]True of women in general. Even if you sign a contract giving them the rights to half of your stuff never believe them. Of course we lie just as much; if not to them, then to ourselves.[/QUOTE]

Badbear,

Did you start a new website offering the services that you spoke of after you and David returned? I searched back thru the thread but didnt see anything about your website domain. I have been to DR many times and thinking of venturing to Haiti.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I will be making a short trip to Haiti on May 13th to the 19th. It is to check for houses to create a haven for all you hornie old men. It is also a trip to clean my tubes. I will post more pics this time. I hope we have everything up and running by July. If not, I will be there to assist in hotel locations, transportation, and be a Babe Dog. You know! Like a Bird Dog but pointing out the Babes[/QUOTE]


Now that it is practically the 19th, I am excited about your pictures. I hope you put some up lickety split. I would like to see some of what I will be getting this summer! I am sure others that follow this thread are with me on this.

Rock on, BadBear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Now that it is practically the 19th, I am excited about your pictures. I hope you put some up lickety split. I would like to see some of what I will be getting this summer! I am sure others that follow this thread are with me on this.

Rock on, BadBear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Hey Cunning Linguist!
I sure am with you. I have been waiting and I am still waiting. I am sure BadBear and some other guys have some goodies for us. Maybe time and circumstances are causing some delay. Be patient. They will come through! Peace!

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]I have NEVER been with a girl so into sex. Nobody in the DR came close. The second she came in I got a phone call. She started taking off my clothes while I was talking. Nobody kissed like that anywhere. And no funky perfume just natural and sexy. When it was over for me after an hour it seemed like she was just beginning and wanted it nonstop all night. She wanted to stay but I really do need to sleep at night.

Thanks for hooking me up BB.[/QUOTE]

What about some pictures?

Ayyyypapi is in love. Not with just one girl but all that black nookie you can get in Haiti. He loves to get out and just mingle among all the people. He sure puts a dampener on all the BS the media and other so called experts say about the dangers of Haiti. He agrees like I that you feel safer in Haiti than in many parts of the DR or the U.S. Anyway so much for that.

We have found a house and if everything goes well, it will be ready for all you mongers to come and enjoy yourselves before July 1. It will be private, there will be good internet, there will be phone access to the U.S, there will be a free breakfast in the morning, there will be pickup and delivery to the airport, there will be security, last but not least in an area where you can go onto the streets and pick up girls from the very innocent to hardcore SWers.

Within a few days I will be releasing prices and more info.

I have some pics to post here and I am sure the other guys that came down will also.

It is late at night and I have not had time to download from my computer. I do not have many as I was busy making sure the three guys that went with me were getting laid as much as humanly possible.

Start making your plans to come to the land of honeys

I'll post a report later but here's just a very, very tiny sampling of what's in Haiti. BTW, none of this would have been possible without BadBear and wheels.

If you are into black, unshaven pussy/armpits and a little body odor than haiti is paradise! Most of the girls are friendly, eager to meet a stranger and cheap. With a little french, creole and a jeep you can drive around all day and pull girls right off the street: This was proven many times over by badbear and other fellas during my short stay.

I ended up seeing the redheaded beauty with nice tits, which badbear talked about, but I was only able to make out with her in the back seat while we drove her home one night. I never saw her again and was a bit dissapointed. I thought she was the best looking girl! Badbear, promised that if he got her naked, he would post pics of her tits.

For those who are interested in visiting haiti, I reccomend going down when badbear is there. He is a reliable source and often times proved to be indespensible. He and a couple of other guys have located a house in the center of petionville. I have not seen it, but I hear it is real nice and will be perfect for bringing girls back. Note: since it is located in the center of town, you will be able to walk around and pick up girls yourself without the need of a vehicle. Not sure what the fee will be for the house.

To sum it up: if you are into primitive, unwesternized black girls, who don't have too many taboos about sex, than I suggest you give it a try.

You are all evil men. LOL.

Very best of luck to all ISGers going to Haiti.

B

Jackson, come spend a week with us in Haiti. The house will be on me. Food and drink, air fare, alcohol, and real good food will be your expense. I guarantee you will return to your home land with a sweet tooth, especially if you like very sweeeeeeeet chocolate. This is an invitation with no BS.

[QUOTE=Macrino]If you are into black, unshaven pussy/armpits and a little body odor than haiti is paradise! Most of the girls are friendly, eager to meet a stranger and cheap. With a little french, creole and a jeep you can drive around all day and pull girls right off the street: This was proven many times over by badbear and other fellas during my short stay.

I ended up seeing the redheaded beauty with nice tits, which badbear talked about, but I was only able to make out with her in the back seat while we drove her home one night. I never saw her again and was a bit dissapointed. I thought she was the best looking girl! Badbear, promised that if he got her naked, he would post pics of her tits.

For those who are interested in visiting haiti, I reccomend going down when badbear is there. He is a reliable source and often times proved to be indespensible. He and a couple of other guys have located a house in the center of petionville. I have not seen it, but I hear it is real nice and will be perfect for bringing girls back. Note: since it is located in the center of town, you will be able to walk around and pick up girls yourself without the need of a vehicle. Not sure what the fee will be for the house.

To sum it up: if you are into primitive, unwesternized black girls, who don't have too many taboos about sex, than I suggest you give it a try.[/QUOTE]

All these posts are really making me drool. In reference to your comment on the house being located in the very centre of Pétionville, how is it that you can pick up girls without a vehicle? By this I mean, are there bars or cantinas located along the road? (as in Sosúa or Pattaya) A park? Is it as simple as walking down the street, eyeing a girl you fancy, and then make a proposition to her? How can you tell which girls are on the level and who are shysters? (my Thai and Philippine experiences come to mind). I suppose that is where BadBear's expertise comes in.

I do look forward to finding a sweet non-pro (or a few of them) who could do with a bit of respect and love (and money if need be).

Also, in addition to girl hunting, are there other things possible to do? I, for one, would be interested in attending a voodoo ceremony which I understand are similar to terreiros de macumba (Brazil). Maybe it would be too dangerous. Just curious since Haiti is most famous for that and though I am a confirmed agnostic, I am very interested in such folklore.
In any case, I do promise you people that I will take quite a few pictures when I am down there this summer. I have already bought my ticket.

[QUOTE=La Isla]I'll post a report later but here's just a very, very tiny sampling of what's in Haiti. BTW, none of this would have been possible without BadBear and wheels.[/QUOTE]

Very nice. Now, tell Professor how is Haiti for someone who speaks no French. I tend to work in Spanish-speaking countries, although I survived a week in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]All these posts are really making me drool. In reference to your comment on the house being located in the very centre of Pétionville, h confirmed agnostic, I am very interested in such folklore.

In any case, I do promise you people that I will take quite a few pictures when I am down there this summer. I have already bought my ticket.[/QUOTE]Forget about bars and cantinas or comparing it to sosua. Unless you want to pick up waitresses, there is really no need to frequent these places for action.

As I have tried to point out, Haiti is the place to hunt and engage in sexual activities with women of the most primitive kind. Most of them don't drink anyway nor have such vices!

Here, it is back to the basics: Walk around. See something you like. Make it obvious that you want to fuck and grab her. There is no need to exchange stupid small talk or make pretend! It is down right crude, raw and very stinky sex with, what I consider, substandard looking women who happen to screw based on pure instincts. I say substandard, because you are not going to find too many model types with nails, make up and fancy clothes: The redheaded one was the closest thing to model material and she still had an unmistakable body odor!

Also, referring to the location of the house, you will not need a vehicle to hunt. The hotel we stayed at was kind of far from busy streets and parks, I. E. A vehicle was necessary!

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Very nice. Now, tell Professor how is Haiti for someone who speaks no French. I tend to work in Spanish-speaking countries, although I survived a week in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I seemed to have had a more difficult time than the other guys communicating with the gals on the streets. I pointed out that a little french goes a long way and opens you up to more opportunities: especially if you like picking up regular girls.

I noticed that many of the women in Haiti are somewhat hesitant and shy at first and don't quite stare. As a white person, you will attract attention, but in the form of glances. This initial shyness, however, is easily surpassed by the man showing some balls and speaking directly to them! Yes, a little french or creole, in my judgment, is necessary.

Example: windows down in the car, badbear sees a hot girl, he slams his breaks, sometimes in the middle of traffic, doesn't even bother pulling over and simply tells the girl to jump in. If you want to get a laugh: witness this big white guy speak creole. It is funny as hell!

In Petionville, it is easier to pick them up walking than driving. The problem when you are driving is you are liable to kill someone when you look too close at one of those fine asses. As a rule I do not go after the hard cores unless I just want a quickie and be done. Most of the time I find it more interesting to lure the innocents into my chamber for a little petting. There is no way I can explain Haiti. You just have to cum and experience it yourself. You will not leave disappointed.
We are taking possession of the house on June 15 so we will be ready by July. No Hotel will offer what we will.

I would like to have a midget standing outside the house yelling "De bus is coming, De bus is coming". And then greet you in a white suit telling you how your most wished for fantasy is about to come true. But you have to come to see for yourself.


[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]All these posts are really making me drool. In reference to your comment on the house being located in the very centre of Pétionville, how is it that you can pick up girls without a vehicle? By this I mean, are there bars or cantinas located along the road? (as in Sosúa or Pattaya) A park? Is it as simple as walking down the street, eyeing a girl you fancy, and then make a proposition to her? How can you tell which girls are on the level and who are shysters? (my Thai and Philippine experiences come to mind). I suppose that is where BadBear's expertise comes in.

I do look forward to finding a sweet non-pro (or a few of them) who could do with a bit of respect and love (and money if need be).

Also, in addition to girl hunting, are there other things possible to do? I, for one, would be interested in attending a voodoo ceremony which I understand are similar to terreiros de macumba (Brazil). Maybe it would be too dangerous. Just curious since Haiti is most famous for that and though I am a confirmed agnostic, I am very interested in such folklore.
In any case, I do promise you people that I will take quite a few pictures when I am down there this summer. I have already bought my ticket.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]
I would like to have a midget standing outside the house yelling "De bus is coming, De bus is coming". [/QUOTE]

You mean "Da COCO Bus" don't you? (coco=pussy in Creole)

When I first went to Haiti, it was very difficult getting any nookie. I was there at least 48 hours. But you have to remember that I had been married to a school teacher for 13 years and thought everyone had sex once a month. I thought everybody had to make an appointment with your wife to have sex. Then I realized how wrong I was and 5 times a day was possible. I went from 270 lbs to 215 lbs in 5 months and truly believed I could have played football again. I spoke no creole or Spanish. I was actually shy. As my visitors can tell you, Haiti changed all that. When you stop 10 girls and only two of them actually walk away, you know life is good. Come to Haiti. It is a great place and for you timid guys it is a confidence builder.



[QUOTE=Professor 1]Very nice. Now, tell Professor how is Haiti for someone who speaks no French. I tend to work in Spanish-speaking countries, although I survived a week in Thailand.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! I just didn't think all the guys would know what COCO was. If GOD made anything better, he kept it for himself



[QUOTE=La Isla]You mean "Da COCO Bus" don't you? (coco=pussy in Creole)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Very nice. Now, tell Professor how is Haiti for someone who speaks no French. I tend to work in Spanish-speaking countries, although I survived a week in Thailand.[QUOTE=Macrino]As a white person, you will attract attention, but in the form of glances.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

While I do not have the latter problem :), I appreciate the advice. It appears that I need to acquire a phrase book. Perhaps, I need to add Haiti to my list of places to conduct research.

I told Sergo about your communication problem. He just reminded me that I was that way when I first went down. He said to let you know the next time you come down he fully intends to go with you and when you say stop, he will make sure you are cumming more than normal. Trust me, he can do it. He knows how to get the innocent in the car and your bed

[QUOTE=Macrino]I seemed to have had a more difficult time than the other guys communicating with the gals on the streets. I pointed out that a little french goes a long way and opens you up to more opportunities: especially if you like picking up regular girls.

I noticed that many of the women in Haiti are somewhat hesitant and shy at first and don't quite stare. As a white person, you will attract attention, but in the form of glances. This initial shyness, however, is easily surpassed by the man showing some balls and speaking directly to them! Yes, a little french or creole, in my judgment, is necessary.

Example: windows down in the car, badbear sees a hot girl, he slams his breaks, sometimes in the middle of traffic, doesn't even bother pulling over and simply tells the girl to jump in. If you want to get a laugh: witness this big white guy speak creole. It is funny as hell![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I told Sergo about your communication problem. He just reminded me that I was that way when I first went down. He said to let you know the next time you come down he fully intends to go with you and when you say stop, he will make sure you are cumming more than normal. Trust me, he can do it. He knows how to get the innocent in the car and your bed[/QUOTE]

Hey BadBear! Man, you just crack me up. At first you did not sound that funny, but now you just crack me up with your jokes about the way you slam the breaks and pick up girls! Wow!!!
Keep up the good work!

I would need to make a quick trip from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince Haiti, made search on the internet, but only trip that was able to find were sending me back to Miami and then to Port au Prince.

Any info that you could provide on local plane company would be appreciated.

Horny B

[QUOTE=Horny B]I would need to make a quick trip from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince Haiti, made search on the internet, but only trip that was able to find were sending me back to Miami and then to Port au Prince.

Any info that you could provide on local plane company would be appreciated.

Horny B[/QUOTE]
Strangely, I don't think any scheduled flights exist, only charters for the rich and courageous. Most people use the bus, which is for the poor and courageous.

But I suggest you ask the same question on DR1 in the "Travel Questions" section of the forums. Sorry, this site won't allow me to post the URL but you can easily find it from the site name.

Keep it clean, it is not a w h o r e board and you will need to register (free) to post.

No comment on BadBear´s driving style. The best is listening to him at night when the Haitians refuse to dim their brights.

You can fly from puerto plata (POP) to Santo Domingo Isabela airport and from there PAP, now PAWA and tortugair I think both flying

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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Strangely, I don't think any scheduled flights exist, only charters for the rich and courageous. Most people use the bus, which is for the poor and courageous.

But I suggest you ask the same question on DR1 in the "Travel Questions" section of the forums. Sorry, this site won't allow me to post the URL but you can easily find it from the site name.

Keep it clean, it is not a w h o r e board and you will need to register (free) to post.[/QUOTE][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove text not in English[/u]. While I encourage contributions from all members, the Forum is an English-only website. Please do not post reports in any language other than English unless accompanied by a full English translation.[i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

When do you and your friend expect to show back up again. The internet problem will be a thing of the past


[QUOTE=David_33]No comment on BadBear´s driving style. The best is listening to him at night when the Haitians refuse to lower their brights.[/QUOTE]

I will check on this


[QUOTE=Horny B]I would need to make a quick trip from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince Haiti, made search on the internet, but only trip that was able to find were sending me back to Miami and then to Port au Prince.

Any info that you could provide on local plane company would be appreciated.

Horny B[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horny B]I would need to make a quick trip from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince Haiti, made search on the internet, but only trip that was able to find were sending me back to Miami and then to Port au Prince.

Any info that you could provide on local plane company would be appreciated.

Horny B[/QUOTE]

The only bus service from the DR to PauP is from Santo Domingo. However, may still be faster and cheaper to do that than go back to Miami, etc.

BadBear, my trip to Haiti resulted in an addiction to dark meat. Therefore, I will go back to Haiti if you get your act together...if not, I´m off to Ghana.

The airport transport hassle and crapo expensive hotels are keeping me away at this time.

[QUOTE=La Isla]The only bus service from the DR to PauP is from Santo Domingo. However, may still be faster and cheaper to do that than go back to Miami, etc.[/QUOTE]Effectively checked one of the recommendation on DR1, one of the recommendation was Capital Coach Line. Price stated was $75. 00 round trip from Santo Domingo to Port au Prince. In addition the Custom Fees to Port au Prince are $25. 00 US + 50 Gdes (I presume Gourdes which is the Haiti currency), on the way back there are also Custom Fees of $25. 00 US + 100 DR Pesos. The traveling time is 8 hres to go to Port au Prince, and 6hres back to Santo Domingo. Don't know why there are 2 hres difference.

We are very near getting the house ready and the airport hassle will be a thing of the passed. Will your friend come with you when you come


[QUOTE=David_33]BadBear, my trip to Haiti resulted in an addiction to dark meat. Therefore, I will go back to Haiti if you get your act together...if not, I´m off to Ghana.

The airport transport hassle and crapo expensive hotels are keeping me away at this time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]

I'm gonna fill an extra suitcase with things that will put smiles on faces and give stuff to schools (for starters). I hope anyone planning to go fills a suitcase and gives useful* stuff, especially books and learning tools, to the schools also. Don wants to make it a policy for people staying at his house, so that Blanc visitors will get a warm welcome from the Haitian neighbors.

* deodarant, perfume or scented douches are NOT useful. Note the period.[/QUOTE]

I thought that I ought to post this on this thread, not the photo thread where Ayyyypapi posted, after all, what is a photo thread without many photos?

What kind of useful stuff? I agree with books for schools but I doubt the usefulness of books in English if they don't understand them (perhaps at a high school level it is feasible). It is like sending beautiful encyclopaedias in Czech or even French to poverty-stricken schools in Mississippi. Nice but useless. As for books, what Haitian kids really need are books in Kreyol and therein lies the rub.

In any case, wouldn't the girls like perfume? Not useful, but appreciated. Also, how about handmedown clothes or clothes from GoodWill? Candy for the kids? Perhaps BadBear can elucidate somewhat on what would be best to take.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I thought that I ought to post this on this thread, not the photo thread where Ayyyypapi posted, after all, what is a photo thread without many photos?

What kind of useful stuff? I agree with books for schools but I doubt the usefulness of books in English if they don't understand them (perhaps at a high school level it is feasible). It is like sending beautiful encyclopaedias in Czech or even French to poverty-stricken schools in Mississippi. Nice but useless. As for books, what Haitian kids really need are books in Kreyol and therein lies the rub.

In any case, wouldn't the girls like perfume? Not useful, but appreciated. Also, how about handmedown clothes or clothes from GoodWill? Candy for the kids? Perhaps BadBear can elucidate somewhat on what would be best to take.[/QUOTE]

For those willing to make a difference in Haiti, plz bear in mind that the needs are in this order: food, health and education. You can hardly bring things for education but you could consider things like vitamins or water treatment stuff. You'd be able to make a difference for the girls and for neighbors. But you have to be careful to what signal you are sending out of the house: the deed doesn't mix well with humanitarian action

PS Believe it or not, girls prefer nice panties to perfume

I posted in that thread becasue of the video.

The following comments are my opinion only, but I hope you will agree.

I can think of alot useful stuff to give someone who has nothing. The last thing I would give a Haitian is somethng to make them more artificial. The last thing I would do would be to turn a Haitian into a Dominican or Gringa. I was so turned off by ALLl the Haitian Putas in the DR adding fake hair, asking for new clothes and perfume. YUCK. They see the other girls buyig nice disco clothes and now if they're with a guy more than a day or two, they all hit up the guys for clothes, perfume, jewelry and hair 24-7. Not stuff for their kids. That's why they came to Sosua in the first place; for their kids.

So I often went to the houses of my 2 novias; one in Mendoza ghetto and one in Sanchez ghetto of Santo Domingo, and bought the kids milk, medication and pampers (after buying the hair, clothes and perfume in Sosua like I HAD to). Please don't encourage these girls to ask for perfume, jewelry, fancy clothes and fake hair. I think BB is gonna ask the schools what they need and thats what he's gonna ask you to bring. Haitian schools aren't gonna ask for perfume.

I was (un)impressed by the fact that the DR doesn't teach the kids English. That locks them out of many opportucities. Someone on another board said lots of Dominicans learn English in American jails so watch out for the English speaking ones. I was impressed by some Haitians speaking fluent English. I asked them how they leared; they said they learned in school or taught themselves.

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Protein bars would definitely be better than candy for an undernourished chiled.Vitamins not good cause they will eat vitamins like candy. A whole suitcase of 300 protein bars and you just fed 300 kids for the day. Many hatian children eat mud pies. Candy ain't much of a step up.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1043125/Tortilla-riots-mud-cakes-food-expensive.html[/url]

Haitians don't need clothes SO much as good food, cause food lasts a day and clothes last a year; if it works they wear it. They sell clothes on the street. I don't see naked Haitians running araound anywhere (wee, some 2 year olds and one crazy guy but those are excptions).

Just think: If BB has 4 guys renting at any one time, and every day 25 bucks goes to charity, then over the course of the year the Blancs will have donated $36,500 to the community. And no doubt we wel be smiled upon for that. Unless it's all candy, perfume and j u n k.

One of they guys we were hanging with last week runs a charity operating in the DR and in Haiti. BB wants to use him to spearhead the charity effort, so he will have a list of exactly what to take (after asking the schools and hospitals). Perfume and candy will not be on that list.

Get ready; the smiles you will get will be some of the biggest and most genuine in your life. And all around, the girls will be the most beautiful you have ever seen. And without makeup.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I thought that I ought to post this on this thread, not the photo thread where Ayyyypapi posted, after all, what is a photo thread without many photos?

What kind of useful stuff? I agree with books for schools but I doubt the usefulness of books in English if they don't understand them (perhaps at a high school level it is feasible). It is like sending beautiful encyclopaedias in Czech or even French to poverty-stricken schools in Mississippi. Nice but useless. As for books, what Haitian kids really need are books in Kreyol and therein lies the rub.

In any case, wouldn't the girls like perfume? Not useful, but appreciated. Also, how about handmedown clothes or clothes from GoodWill? Candy for the kids? Perhaps BadBear can elucidate somewhat on what would be best to take.[/QUOTE]

BootyLover ehmm uncovers yet another fascinating item in the course of his inspections and research. Sharing his research findings with ISG simply adds another previously unknown fact in the mongering world. many thanks, BL. ;-))))

[QUOTE=BootyLover]
PS Believe it or not, girls prefer nice panties to perfume[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Excess]BootyLover ehmm uncovers yet another fascinating item in the course of his inspections and research. Sharing his research findings with ISG simply adds another previously unknown fact in the mongering world. many thanks, BL. ;-))))[/QUOTE]There was a German guy on the Kenya and Madagascar thread who talked about buying panties (or knickers for you English) before going on his mongering travels. I had forgotten about that though. Thanks BootyLover for reminding us. It shows how similar Haiti and Africa can be, doesn't it?

I see all these hot black babes on the sight from Kenya and other countries in Africa and I think, Gee these guys could be cumming to Haiti a lot cheaper than going there and from what people have told me it is dangerous in all these African countries. Now, that could be propaganda because if you listen to the news and reports from Haiti, Haiti is a living battle zone. However, I am getting this info from people in Haiti that have been to those African countries. Anyway it has got to be much cheaper cumming in Haiti.

Africa is not a country ,but a continent.lf one or two countries are having problems that does mean the rest have problems.Kenya had some problems but they don,t any more .
l have been to both ,Haiti and some African countries and they all have third World problems ,except South Africa.The other African countries are different from each other.
Before you go to any african country or to Haiti you must first check with the State Department and you will know if it,s safe to go to.

[quote=dogdays]africa is not a country ,but a continent.lf one or two countries are having problems that does mean the rest have problems.kenya had some problems but they don,t any more .

l have been to both ,haiti and some african countries and they all have third world problems ,except south africa.the other african countries are different from each other.

before you go to any african country or to haiti you must first check with the state department and you will know if it,s safe to go to.[/quote]150 cases of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] are reported in south africa everyday!!

20,000 people are killed every year mostly by stabbings and shootings in south africa!!

if u take out congo and sudan, more people are killed in south africa than all the other 51 african countries combined! botswana, namibia, tanzania, angola, ghana and many other african countries are statistically safer than the us. infact if you visit nationmaster.com, you'll realize that it is south american, east european and caribbean countries that lead in homicides, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] and carjackings.

point to ponder

[QUOTE=DogDays]Before you go to any african country or to Haiti you must first check with the State Department and you will know if it,s safe to go to.[/QUOTE]

They are a good guideline, but if you go strictly by that, you'll never leave your house. Talking to people on the ground is best

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]How about a movie? Worth 1000 pics. I don't take too many pics except for my x-novias in the DR. Done with THAT (i think....) Gonna post it on U tube.

For now check out my x-novia, a Haitiana from the DR. This kinda babe is on every block in P-Ville, 24-7 (swear)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoAo4n953uk[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, I don't even know where to start. I absolutely love chocolate. After looking at some of bb's pics and your vids, I think I need to skip cr, dr, columbia and make a dash to haiti. Live in Miami, so maybe I can just drift on over there, LOL.

That juliette girl reminds me of a beautiful apple bottom hatian I once worked with oh how I wanted to get with her.

So where do I start. I have yet to monger internationally and due to bad economic times, its very difficult to due so here in the states. I'm very picky and the prices are still rather high here.

Where do I find a primer on the locale. Pricing, where to p/you girls, do I need to speak creole or french to get by or will english suffice? Where to stay? The usual questions.

Ap and bb help a brutha out.

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indi, just pm me and i will give you all the info you will need. you will be amazed at these hot honeys and how innocent some of them are.

as far as the guys that love africa, i have no problem with that. i was just thinking it is much more expensive to travel there than haiti. especially if you live in fl. you can actually make a hot weekend trip. sometimes spirit air has these $9 fairs that will cost you about $135 from miami.



quote=indi therapist]wow, i don't even know where to start. i absolutely love chocolate. after looking at some of bb's pics and your vids, i think i need to skip cr, dr, columbia and make a dash to haiti. live in miami, so maybe i can just drift on over there, lol.

that juliette girl reminds me of a beautiful apple bottom hatian i once worked with oh how i wanted to get with her.

so where do i start. i have yet to monger internationally and due to bad economic times, its very difficult to due so here in the states. i'm very picky and the prices are still rather high here.

where do i find a primer on the locale. pricing, where to p/you girls, do i need to speak creole or french to get by or will english suffice? where to stay? the usual questions.

ap and bb help a brutha out.

it[/quote]

There will be many more pics coming after June 15th and there will be even more coming after July 1. Be patient.


[QUOTE=Salsero 2310]Hello Black Bear,

Do you have more pics from black Haitianas? Your fotos are the hottest I ever have seen!

It[/QUOTE]

Tortug Air flys at 8:30 AM and 4:30 PM every day from SDQ to PAP Caribeair flys some days and one other. I will post links tomorrow but I just got blown away by two babes I use to visit regularly. They have put on some weight but they still know how blow on the tube




[QUOTE=La Isla]The only bus service from the DR to PauP is from Santo Domingo. However, may still be faster and cheaper to do that than go back to Miami, etc.[/QUOTE]

[quote=jerulez]150 cases of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] are reported in south africa everyday!!

20,000 people are killed every year mostly by stabbings and shootings in south africa!!

if u take out congo and sudan, more people are killed in south africa than all the other 51 african countries combined! botswana, namibia, tanzania, angola, ghana and many other african countries are statistically safer than the us. infact if you visit nationmaster.com, you'll realize that it is south american, east european and caribbean countries that lead in homicides, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] and carjackings.

point to ponder[/quote]

interesting site. stats like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] produce a very odd list and i have no idea what's happening to produce the numbers but it seems likely that the data is grossly distorted by different definitions and collection/reporting systems.

south african is on top of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] per capita, and the us has about one quarter the rate (1.19 per 1000 vs .30) but canada and australia have rates more than 2x the us and closer to sa - .77 or so and much much higher than dozens of third world countries and most other countries period. i don't think of canada and australia as exactly lawless places with an out of control culture of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] - yet they are among the few places up there in the ballpark with sa. at the very bottom are some fanatically muslim states both rich and poor.

if you look at the list it's so oddly mixed and the numbers vary so widely that it can't represent much more than artifacts of how they got the data.

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i was just in the dr getting a couple of dishes to insure high speed and reliable internet in the new house. ran in to ayyyypapi and we surfed santo domingo a couple of nights and we both decided haiti will take the dr's place very soon because most of the swers are getting fat from eating big macs, whoppers, and double wendys. we have decided if any of those place start opening up in haiti we will boycott them. it was in haiti 10 minutes when i saw more hot babes than the 3 days i was in the dr. i remember the good old days when i use to travel to the dr just for the babes. i have the hottest babe i have seen in a while in my room now but left my camera in a friend's car but will get it tomorrow for you to observe

[quote=badbear2000]i was just in the dr getting a couple of dishes to insure high speed and reliable internet in the new house. ran in to ayyyypapi and we surfed santo domingo a couple of nights and we both decided haiti will take the dr's place very soon because most of the swers are getting fat from eating big macs, whoppers, and double wendys. we have decided if any of those place start opening up in haiti we will boycott them. it was in haiti 10 minutes when i saw more hot babes than the 3 days i was in the dr. i remember the good old days when i use to travel to the dr just for the babes. i have the hottest babe i have seen in a while in my room now but left my camera in a friend's car but will get it tomorrow for you to observe[/quote]

ok bigbadbear!!!
i am ready! bring it on!

[QUOTE=Papi0170]OK BigBadBear!!!
I am ready! Bring it on![/QUOTE]
I'm ready too, have been for a couple of days in anticipation of something happening on the 17th, then 18th but to no avail. I hope Badbear is all right and nothing bad has happened to him.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I'm ready too, have been for a couple of days in anticipation of something happening on the 17th, then 18th but to no avail. I hope Badbear is all right and nothing bad has happened to him.[/QUOTE]

Hey CunningL!
Don't even think about it! BB is OK. I think he is compiling the pics and other data so he can pour it on us real good! Be ready guys! Hehehe!

The house will be officially open on July 15. I will be posting some rules and some pics of the house. We are already getting reservations so do not hesitate to let me know when you would like to come taste some sweet chocolate. Haiti truly the future love spot. Hell! What do I mean, it has been for some time.

I'l be coincidentally in PAP that week, working. Any offical ceremony or party? Do we need invitation? If possible then PM me for details.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The house will be officially open on July 15. I will be posting some rules and some pics of the house. We are already getting reservations so do not hesitate to let me know when you would like to come taste some sweet chocolate. Haiti truly the future love spot. Hell! What do I mean, it has been for some time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arainmain]I'l be coincidentally in PAP that week, working. Any offical ceremony or party? Do we need invitation? If possible then PM me for details.[/QUOTE]

"The seatbelt sign is off. Feel free to move about the planet." Your's is among the most diverse and eclectic lists of country posts I've ever seen. Your impressions of Haiti and comments would be very welcome.

Thanks Marco-Antonio. I indeed like to travel (always for work) and taste local flavors. I think I posted quite few reports on PAP, been in and out of haiti since 94, loved it always, had several non pro (but biased) gfe'ish relations, semi pros, a very few pros. Posted in this board several time about it. When there I prefer to avoid the Dominican ladies in the Mariani and PV areas (I prefer have those from Malpasse onwards and the new generation of hardcore Haitians.

Still waiting to know if I can go to the opening party, if considered and possible Badbear PM me the address.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]"The seatbelt sign is off. Feel free to move about the planet." Your's is among the most diverse and eclectic lists of country posts I've ever seen. Your impressions of Haiti and comments would be very welcome.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, tonight I will be posting more pics of some babes. We had an issue with the first house. The people promised to repair the pool but we saw nothing happening. Therefore we found the new CO CO HOUSE. I is ready but we will not take guests still until the 15th of July. All bedrooms have private baths. One even has a jacoozi. Initially the first come first serve at the going price of $100 per night. Later the jacoozi room with be a few dollars more.

Things you must know before your visit:

No girls in the house under 18 years of age
No drugs
Have fun

At this time we plan to have a waffle maker like the ones in Days Inns for the early birds and coffee at 6:00 AM. Our cook will serve breakfast from 9 until 10. This is free. It will be typical eggs and bacon or ham or whatever. You get the picture. There will be sandwiches available from noon until 2:00 PM. There will be a reasonable charge for that. We will be serving he major meal at 4:00PM that will cost from 6 to 10 dollars. We want to get an idea of what you can and cannot eat. Myself, I eat anything that does not eat me first. There will be sandwiches available after dinner for the snackers. Hopefully you will be snacking on some chocolate by then.

Trust me. It is harder to not get laid in Haiti than it is to get laid.

You will enjoy yourself

Unfortunately I posted a msg in the photo section in which all the questions were answered on this thread (sorry moderator). I'm very excited about the opportunity to go to Haiti and get a feel for it in a comfortable environment. Thanks for all of the info and work you've done. Can we book rooms through you via an email? I'm hoping you don't require a deposit unless you've got a secure site. I booked an apartment in Buenos Aires and my credit card number was hijacked from the site that I placed the reservation through. Obviously, a ride from pap to your place is important to all of us that are a little concerned about feeling secure at the airport. I've never been to Haiti and the last thing I would want is to be stranded at the airport knowing little creole and not knowing who to trust. I'm sure a white American stands out like a sore thumb especially if he's looking lost outside of the airport. I know your not taking reservations until the 15th of July but I do want to fly out and look around even if it's for two or three days. When you have time, do you mind posting specifics?

Thanks again on behalf of all us that love chocolate!

ok that's it. what a blowout omg. nonstop babes one on top of the other. so many i need to throw out my sim caard not kidding. don't make the mistake of giving girls a number without taking their photo and adding specfics about them or you won'r know who's calling. i just gave up answering my phone. they resorted to writing live letters and giving them to the hotel staff, calling me at 7am, leading me 2 miles down dirt roads to meet their parents. it's completely off the hook. these girls will not quit. they will pursue you in a very nice but persistent livingway. and if not that, they wil pursue you in the steet if you make the mistake of walking past a group of 8-10 street girls at night in the dark like i did. they are really aggressive if you are alone in the street at night. otherwise i felt completely 100% safe in haiti at all times. bb once drove his 4x4 thru a large street party of hundreds of semi-drink hatian males (no i don't think so.) and all moved out of the way. his window was all the way down and he just smiled. so if that happened in santo domingo at night. don't wanna think about it. anyway i digress. theres so much good stuff to say all the way around. the girls aren't just here and there. there are flocks of them at all times everywhere. nearly all of them respond to a kind "hola madmoiselle, venez ici". nearlyl all come over and give you their number, ask for yours, and neaarly all will all be yours for as long as you want them to be. you will be so spoiled. like a kid in the candy shop on his birthday, every day.

things they will really appreciate (you can see i fucked my brains out so good luck following this post):

bikinis

hair dryers

that's it.

no just kididng. but one hottie stole all the bikinis we had. she said she was gonna return them so came over at 2am with her little lesbian spinner girlfriend. we traded the spinner for the bikinis. fair? you will see her. she's 20 years old with the finest ass in the milky way. hhhhhhh0ooooobooooyyyyy. not even kidding. listen again not kidding. that ass is the finest. you just do'nt know. but you will if you have the balls to do what you want to. get dizzy thinking about that ass. excuse me. ok back.

ok just a word to you future re-born studs.

i have to give some type of haiti. specific advice rght?

do not fall into the trap of believing that a 17 year old is older than that. drop any suspected ****s like the plague. they may be ready willing and able but all illegal and we will get so screwed over by just one guy thinking that this is haiti so rules are different. n. o. okay?

- no drugs.

- do not recommend overt drunkeness in public. nobody we saw was drink. ever. just buzzed.

- learn basic french or creole. if only pickup lines, and stuff like "coco ici". sorry if this post is worthless for most, but jest get your ass over here and feel the better than you have ever felt in your life. and for every reason not just pussy. one last incoherent thought. we never saw a single person lying in the street asking for handouts unless they really had no use of at least one leg. lots of kids asking for change if you're driving with yiur window down. your choice. donations? again, your choice. they need everything so little things for the girls is fun andapprecated. i bought one girls family food for the whole week. felt really good. bye!

At this time we are using paypal when sometimes goes overboard with security. You can pay with a credit card through the paypal system. PM me for all info. We are not going to let anybody get stuck




[QUOTE=Vegas Flyer]Unfortunately I posted a msg in the photo section in which all the questions were answered on this thread (sorry moderator). I'm very excited about the opportunity to go to Haiti and get a feel for it in a comfortable environment. Thanks for all of the info and work you've done. Can we book rooms through you via an email? I'm hoping you don't require a deposit unless you've got a secure site. I booked an apartment in Buenos Aires and my credit card number was hijacked from the site that I placed the reservation through. Obviously, a ride from pap to your place is important to all of us that are a little concerned about feeling secure at the airport. I've never been to Haiti and the last thing I would want is to be stranded at the airport knowing little creole and not knowing who to trust. I'm sure a white American stands out like a sore thumb especially if he's looking lost outside of the airport. I know your not taking reservations until the 15th of July but I do want to fly out and look around even if it's for two or three days. When you have time, do you mind posting specifics?

Thanks again on behalf of all us that love chocolate![/QUOTE]

We will be charging $100 per night but will work something out for the long haulers. Even though there will be different prices in the future, at this time they are the same. We will offer the rooms according to the first cum first serve basis. If you are the first to reserve that time period you will get the choice. People are already trying to grab the jacuzzi room. I wonder why. Maybe it is because 3 hotties and one guy will fit perfect

I tried reporting this yesterday but got lost it cyperspace it seems: what i wanted to say was, Global, resident here in Haiti, contacted Badbear and came by to see him and house on Saturday. And it's just Fabulous! God, i can't imagine he could have done any better: great location relative to the best supermarket in Haiti, Pietonville, some three star dance spots almost a walk away. The rooms, all good and all a bit different, could hardly be better. There's even decent wall art and tasteful, 'faux Chinois' furnishings in the place. Geez, it was really terrific to see and talk to him about this promising project, how he's got a good handle on the operational needs and details, and 'special service' to others. Bring, perhaps, only especially good books to start a nice private library, and perhaps any favourite dining condiments. I will want 'in' on the Inn's opening event, and evening barbeques with decent poolside babes. I only hope he and others do this fine service by attracting 'sensible' clientele and without entirely spoiling les richesses du pays...On on!!

I'll chime in here even though I haven't been to the new house yet.

When traveling, its easy to fork over money for whatever level of accomodation you like. Believe it or not, like Africa, accomodations are expensive in Haiti. I know it doesn't make sense, but it is. For a "nice" hotel room in PAP or P'ville, you'll fork out a MINIMUM of $90 a night. What do you get? A nice room...and thats it. The new house from the photos I have seen looks nicer than all but the most expensive hotels there.

I know BadBear well and have spent alot of time with him in Haiti, as well as with Ayyyypapi. Besides a nice room with a pool, internet, access to the rest of the house and the pool, and breakfast...you'll get alot more.

First of all, with BadBear you have a built in guide to what can be a challenging country. He knows the country WELL. You'll feel SAFE. I mean really, how many of you would have the balls to venture into Haiti without someone like BB on the ground? He is a very decent human being and his love for Haiti is infectious.

Second, as mentioned, you will get access to everything from really sweet girls looking to meet a "blan" (it can mean white man OR African American...basically a foreigner) to girls who know how to get down and dirty.

Third. You get bragging rights to say you have been to Haiti. Trust me when I tell you most peoples mouths drop when you say that. Its only because they are ignorant and a small part of Haiti's ugly past is stuck in their heads. I have NEVER felt unsafe in Haiti in over 6 trips.

Fourth. You get to experience a very cool, mystical and totally different culture than you are used to. Haiti will be thrilling and heartwarming at the same time. You cannot come back from Haiti without taking time to reflect on the world and yourself.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Haiti is an EXPERIENCE. Go, you won't regret it, and you will definately never forget it. Don't be surprised if you find yourself coming back over and over again.

I am just recuperating from my too long trip. I have some more pics of the babe for bikini booty. And I have some more stay tuned to a pic coming near you.

One other thing, I love it when you guys come down and have a great time. I think I may be slowing down a little as I can only go for 1 or 2 hours at night and then a quickie 30 minutes in the morning.

We want you to come back to this sight and tell the other mongers or just plain guys that like sex what they are missing.

Have a nice night.
BB

We should have pics from the CoCo House after the 15th. We will then keep them cumming

When you make reservations we will expect 20% deposit for your time there. You can PM me for specifics. When you book, you will be given the option of what room you want. First cum, first serve. If you book for 7 days and after you get there you get the feelings in your groin you would like to hang out a little longer and there is space, I will cut you a little discount. Let's face it, the fewer times we have to go to the airport, it is better for us. If you find that this black nookie is to good to leave, you may want live here. We can also make you a deal. We will pick you up and drop you off at the airport. I made a deal with one of the airport security men to let me in. I plan to get a baseball cap with BADBEAR on it so there will be no question as to who I am. We will have coffee ready in the morning at 6:00AM. There will be a self operating waffle maker for the early bird. You may want to send your honey to get it for you as the Haitian girls love to serve their men. Even if it is only for one night. We will have wireless phones in each room with intercom capability if you want to talk to your friends in the other room or someone in the kitchen. You may even want our maid to bring you coffee in bed and since she is there polish your knob. Of course she will expect a tip. Which I am sure you will have no problem. The telephone will have a U.S. line for you calling convenience in case you want to call your wife or girl friend and explain to them how BJ is meant to be given. All of the above is included in the price except for the knob polishing as that is between you and the maid. Looking forward to meeting all you guys. Happy nookie hunting
BB

We will have sandwiches available at noon for a small fee. We will serve our main coarse at 5:00 PM. We are going to try and keep this under $10 and I assure you it will be good. There will also be sandwiches available later for the guests who like to snack before bed time. This will be handled by the honor system as you will have access to the refrig.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]We will have wireless phones in each room with intercom capability if you want to talk to your friends in the other room or someone in the kitchen. The telephone will have a U.S. line for you calling convenience in case you want to call your wife or girl friend and explain to them how BJ is meant to be given. All of the above is included in the price
BB[/QUOTE]

I assume that you forget to mention that there will be internet available (wifi or ethernet, only you can say) . I say this because you mentioned it in previous posts if I am not mistaken. Looking forward to seeing the place soon

We will have both Starband and Hughsnet. This is to insure there will always be internet. If you have stayed at the hotels in Haiti you will soon learn they are about as reliable as our government getting us out of the financial disaster in a short period. There will also be a desktop available for those who do not want to carry their laptops around with them.


[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I assume that you forget to mention that there will be internet available (wifi or ethernet, only you can say) . I say this because you mentioned it in previous posts if I am not mistaken. Looking forward to seeing the place soon[/QUOTE]

By July 15th this board will start rocking. There will be more pics and posts on the Haiti board than any other at ISG. So get ready to rumble. And better yet get ready to come to Haiti and be a part of it.

Gentlemen, before you buy into the earlier news about AIDS running wild in Haiti you need to look at this sight

[url]http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0709/637657.html[/url]

Now, I was living in Haiti when the AIDS epidemic broke out around the world. I know nobody that knows anybody that has AIDS. I asked a factory owner one time who had over 3, 000 employees how many AIDS cases he had there and to my surprise he told me they tested their employees every 3 months for AIDS. During the 5 years they had been testing there were no employees ever tested positive. I told him that did not make sense because the way the news media talks people are dropping like flies. He explained to me through the U.S. policies. They give third world countries money based on the number of AIDS cases they have. The Haitian government being as corrupt as it was, they exploded the number to get money. Unfortunately, the U.S. government was stupid enough to give it.

Why is a factory worker testing anyone for aids? Seems like an added cost that most third world countries wouldnt have? What was the name of the company?

It belonged to one of the richest families in Haiti. They were producing some items that a blood contamination could have caused a major problem. They had the money. There was no worry about money. You must not understand how third world countries work. There are a few very very rich and the majority is very poor.


[QUOTE=Katokay]Why is a factory worker testing anyone for aids? Seems like an added cost that most third world countries wouldnt have? What was the name of the company?[/QUOTE]

All, I am trying to plan a trip. I think I have read most of the reports and can not find any information as to how much the girls expect for ST and LT.

Any info. would be helpful.

This is something you pretty well decide on your own. For ST maybe 20. For LT 25 to 40. It really depends on how good the service is. I have an old friend that spends 500 gdes which is about 13. Expensive it is not. Good it is not. It is GREAT. Trust me. If you like sweet chocolate, you are going to love Haiti


[QUOTE=Clayshooter]All, I am trying to plan a trip. I think I have read most of the reports and can not find any information as to how much the girls expect for ST and LT.

Any info. would be helpful.[/QUOTE]

This is July 13, 2009 which will be my last day in the nation of boredom. Tomorrow, I will leave Missouri and be in Haiti before night fall. Before midnight I will be in the arms, between the legs, loving on a beautiful black goddess. I am hoping to see many of you guys. I just got an email from a hottie that says she wants to have a pool party at the Co Co House. There will be 12 of them. Now let me ask you------------should I or should I not. What do you think. There is already some lucky guys on their way on August 15th. Easy guy-----wait until you get there to have an orgasm. July 15, 2009 the Co Co House will be officially open for fun.

Congratulations! So much about living in America is so very awful in so many ways; it's fortunate for those of who can organize to live and be away a good bit.

I'm hoping that by this Sunday, eveningish?, will mark an inaugural opening/bbq at the BB Inn?! Do let us know?!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]This is July 13, 2009 which will be my last day in the nation of boredom. Tomorrow, I will leave Missouri and be in Haiti before night fall. Before midnight I will be in the arms, between the legs, loving on a beautiful black goddess. I am hoping to see many of you guys. I just got an email from a hottie that says she wants to have a pool party at the Co Co House. There will be 12 of them. Now let me ask you------------should I or should I not. What do you think. There is already some lucky guys on their way on August 15th. Easy guy-----wait until you get there to have an orgasm. July 15, 2009 the Co Co House will be officially open for fun.[/QUOTE]

Looking forward to that myself. I will be down there the second week of August.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Any of you guys that are in Haiti, you are invited to our weekly bbq which will start July 19. Call me 3761-1111[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Any of you guys that are in Haiti, you are invited to our weekly bbq which will start July 19. Call me 3761-1111[/QUOTE]
Hi BadBear,

I hope you provide us pictures of the bbq, especially of the babes (the meat that I prefer LOL), if you can possibly arrange it. I'd like to see what it will be like when I am there next month. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!

The new name. I just woke up to get something to drink and thought I may give you guys an idea of what to expect at the BBQs when you cum to the Chocolate Factory. Yep, that is the new name. I will have hats and tee-shirts made with that name on them. The water was cold at the beginning of the day but the hot chocolate heated it up quickly. My first wife showed up and told my 3rd wife I was a Boozen which is Haiti's name for a monger. I said"yep, I have to confess". My 3rd wife still slept with me. All 88 lbs of her which is mostly butt and tits. I will be posting come pics later today after I wake up and get my full body massage. Guys, there is Heaven on Earth. And it is at the Chocolate Factory

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The new name. I just woke up to get something to drink and thought I may give you guys an idea of what to expect at the BBQs when you cum to the Chocolate Factory. Yep, that is the new name. I will have hats and tee-shirts made with that name on them. The water was cold at the beginning of the day but the hot chocolate heated it up quickly. My first wife showed up and told my 3rd wife I was a Boozen which is Haiti's name for a monger. I said"yep, I have to confess". My 3rd wife still slept with me. All 88 lbs of her which is mostly butt and tits. I will be posting come pics later today after I wake up and get my full body massage. Guys, there is Heaven on Earth. And it is at the Chocolate Factory[/QUOTE]

Hi BB!
I'm back! I had to be out of town and was too busy to check the forum. Yes, I like the name Chocolate Factory better than "Coco House". In Haiti the word "coco" has a bad connotation. It makes people think automatically about "pussy" even though that's the French word for coconut.

Thanks again for the pictures, the reports, the valuable information about Haiti, and for all you do to keep us informed about Haiti.

I'm looking forward to the new pictures!
Chow!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The new name. I just woke up to get something to drink and thought I may give you guys an idea of what to expect at the BBQs when you cum to the Chocolate Factory. Yep, that is the new name. I will have hats and tee-shirts made with that name on them. The water was cold at the beginning of the day but the hot chocolate heated it up quickly. My first wife showed up and told my 3rd wife I was a Boozen which is Haiti's name for a monger. I said"yep, I have to confess". My 3rd wife still slept with me. All 88 lbs of her which is mostly butt and tits. I will be posting come pics later today after I wake up and get my full body massage. Guys, there is Heaven on Earth. And it is at the Chocolate Factory[/QUOTE]
Hmm. Well, I will have to bring some fine chocolate (Godiva) for the honeys. Chocolate is said to be a stimulant for arousal. Thus, chocolate will be all around LOL.
I am looking forward to the pictures.

[Papi, the problem with Coco is it means pussy in Kreole. Even the Chocolate House might attract more attention than one might wish for...I am starting to collect a good number of photos, but have always had a terrible ---and really Fucking--time uploading them here. Let me try a few now: one of some of BB's guests--who im sure became more...animated...later... and one of a girl i'd just met and brought with me. She really a delight too.]
]Hi BB!
I'm back! I had to be out of town and was too busy to check the forum. Yes, I like the name Chocolate Factory better than "Coco House". In Haiti the word "coco" has a bad connotation. It makes people think automatically about "pussy" even though that's the French word for coconut.

Thanks again for the pictures, the reports, the valuable information about Haiti, and for all you do to keep us informed about Haiti.

I'm looking forward to the new pictures!
Chow![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr][Papi, the problem with Coco is it means pussy in Kreole. Even the Chocolate House might attract more attention than one might wish for...I am starting to collect a good number of photos, but have always had a terrible ---and really Fucking--time uploading them here. Let me try a few now: one of some of BB's guests--who im sure became more...animated...later... and one of a girl i'd just met and brought with me. She really a delight too.]
]Hi BB!
I'm back! I had to be out of town and was too busy to check the forum. Yes, I like the name Chocolate Factory better than "Coco House". In Haiti the word "coco" has a bad connotation. It makes people think automatically about "pussy" even though that's the French word for coconut.

Thanks again for the pictures, the reports, the valuable information about Haiti, and for all you do to keep us informed about Haiti.

I'm looking forward to the new pictures!
Chow![/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Hi Global Nomadrr!
Thanks for the remark!
Of course I know what the word means in creole. That's why people think about pussy as soon as someone says it. In the DR (Boca Chica) There is a little hotel/restaurant called Casa Coco. It has a few coconut trees in front. Nobody is offended by that because they know it means coconut, the plant, but in Haiti it's a different story. In Haiti as soon as you say "coco" people will think of pussy. If they are talking about coconut they will say "cocoye", not coco.

Well, enough for that! Whatever the name, I hope I can stop by as soon as I have a chance!

Thanks for the pictures! That girl on the far left with the cup in her hand is telling me Come! Come! Come to Haiti! I think I saw her picture on the thread before!

Hey guys! Enjoy it while you can! That's all I can tell all those who have a chance to go down there!

[QUOTE=Global Nomadrr][Papi, the problem with Coco is it means pussy in Kreole. Even the Chocolate House might attract more attention than one might wish for...
Chow![/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

I'd have to agree. It's an unusual name for a hotel/guest house that has a racial/sexual association. I think you'd be better off with something low profile. Guys with an interest will find out and remember the name whatever it is. Any general publicity would be bad - and actually having a name that's odd and suggestive makes that more likely. Chateau Enculez or Hotel Ti Bef should probably be off the list too but they might make a funny t-shirt.

OK guys! Let's have some pictures now. Time to enjoy the show!

It is not like we are going to advertise on CNN. Co Co House would sound bad in Haiti. The Chocolate Factory is low key. We will consider others so we are open to any of you guys suggestion.. I mean after all this is going to be a play place for everyone. PLUG and PLAY

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony][/QUOTE]

I'd have to agree. It's an unusual name for a hotel/guest house that has a racial/sexual association. I think you'd be better off with something low profile. Guys with an interest will find out and remember the name whatever it is. Any general publicity would be bad - and actually having a name that's odd and suggestive makes that more likely. Chateau Enculez or Hotel Ti Bef should probably be off the list too but they might make a funny t-shirt.[/QUOTE]

We are compiling things now. And they are hot.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony][/QUOTE]I'd have to agree. It's an unusual name for a hotel/guest house that has a racial/sexual association. I think you'd be better off with something low profile. Guys with an interest will find out and remember the name whatever it is. Any general publicity would be bad - and actually having a name that's odd and suggestive makes that more likely. Chateau Enculez or Hotel Ti Bef should probably be off the list too but they might make a funny t-shirt.[/QUOTE]Hey Marco!

Man, you make me laugh! It's so funny the names suggested! Now, this would be like putting it on CNN as BB said!

Peace!

I have been busy trying to get everything going during the day and too busy with uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh-----You know at nights. But I promise we will post some today.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I have been busy trying to get everything going during the day and too busy with uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh-----You know at nights. But I promise we will post some today.[/QUOTE]


While we are waiting for Badbear's highly anticipated photos, I have a couple of simple questions. In providing financial gratification to the ladies for their company, etc., what would be best to pay them: in U.S. dollars or gourdes? I ask this question for two reasons: 1. a whopping 31% of Haiti's entire economy is based on remittances coming from Haitians living in the States so I imagine the economy is dollarized to a certain extent 2. I have heard it recommended on the Dominican Republic board not to pay girls in dollars. It is cheaper to work in pesos.
How about Haiti? Also, I imagine negotiations for services should be closed BEFORE, not AFTER the event. That is how it is done (or should be done) in places as diverse as Thailand, Philippines and the DR. I wonder if the Haitian girls use the Thai line "up to you".

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]While we are waiting for Badbear's highly anticipated photos, I have a couple of simple questions. In providing financial gratification to the ladies for their company, etc., what would be best to pay them: in U.S. dollars or gourdes? I ask this question for two reasons: 1. a whopping 31% of Haiti's entire economy is based on remittances coming from Haitians living in the States so I imagination the economy is dollarized to a certain extent 2. I have heard it recommended on the Dominican Republic board not to pay girls in dollars. It is cheaper to work in pesos.
How about Haiti? Also, I imagine negotiations for services should be closed BEFORE, not AFTER the event. That is how it is done (or should be done) in places as diverse as Thailand, Philippines and the DR. I wonder if the Haitian girls use the Thai line "up to you".[/QUOTE]

1. IMHO, it's best to pay in Gourdes (aka Haitian Dollars). They understand their own money and wont have to do any convoluted monetary conversions.
2. Negotiations are a personal thing. When dealing with anyone even resembling a pro or semi-pro, I'm like you. I like things clear an up front so that there's no "drama" at the end.

As to the anticipated photos, I can only assume that BadBear is having trouble setting up the internet at the house. Once its right, its great but the initial setup and alignment can be a pain in the butt.....

[QUOTE=La Isla]1. IMHO, it's best to pay in Gourdes (aka Haitian Dollars). [/QUOTE]
Misleading information!

"Haitian dollar" is slang for [b]five[/b] gourdes. This dates back to the time when the currency was pegged at 5 gourdes = US$1. It now floats.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Misleading information!

"Haitian dollar" is slang for [b]five[/b] gourdes. This dates back to the time when the currency was pegged at 5 gourdes = US$1. It now floats.[/QUOTE]


US$1=41 Haitian Gourdes
41 gourdes :5=8 Haitian dollars and some change.

I know! it's very confusing, but that's the way it is.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Misleading information!

"Haitian dollar" is slang for [b]five[/b] gourdes. This dates back to the time when the currency was pegged at 5 gourdes = US$1. It now floats.[/QUOTE]
NOT misleading at all. Gourdes are the currency. Haitian dollars do not literally exist. Its confusing, yes, but as I posted at length, thats Haiti. Youll figure it out when u get here :)

What about being able to get change or smaller denominations? In the DR it's often difficult to get change. Are smaller bills available (Gourdes)? Is it useful to bring small bills in US currency?

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]What about being able to get change or smaller denominations? In the DR it's often difficult to get change. Are smaller bills available (Gourdes)? Is it useful to bring small bills in US currency?[/QUOTE]


Marco!
Most Supermarket will be more than happy to change US dollars for you. They need the US dollars. The Tiger stores (Gas station/convenience store) will change money for you. The King Market by the Rex movie theater near the square (Champs-de-mars) will change money for you. AVOID at all cost getting change from the guys on the streets in the downtown area. It's DANGEROUS!!!

Most retail store or merchants won't have change for large bills. When you change money, if they give you large bills, you can buy something and pay with the large bills to get smaller denominations if they cannot break it down for you.

They have 10, 25, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000 gdes bills. They used to have 1, 2, 5 gourdes bills, they are doing away with them. They have been replaced by coins, because the coins last longer and are cheaper in the long run since the government won't have to print money so often. Just as they are doing in the DR. I remember the days when they had moneda in the DR. Not any more now. Same thing in Haiti.

One note though. Paper bills in Haiti can get veeeery dirty. Be warned!

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]Videos are nothing short of spectacular. But no titties or cracks. You'll see... In addiiton to BB will post photos with titties and cracks. He's busy with new wife "no. 5". He may not want to show her face on the board since she's so fucking fine. And that's noooo lie.[/QUOTE]

While patiently waiting for those spectacular videos and photos with bated breath, perhaps you could inform us about the typical prices for the girls in gourdes.
A gourde is slightly less than a DR peso. If the price for a girl in Sosúa is about 1,000-1,500 pesos for ST and 2,000-3,000 for LT (aka TLN), how much would a Haitian girl in Pétionville take and consider fair?
Would they take a swimsuit and/or Victoria's secret panties or a hairdryer in lieu of money?
Take care Ayyyypapi, I know that you are in the know on such things!!!!

BB touched on this a little while ago.

ST = 750-850 Gourdes. LT = 1000 - 1400 Gourdes

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]While patiently waiting for those spectacular videos and photos with bated breath, perhaps you could inform us about the typical prices for the girls in gourdes.

A gourde is slightly less than a DR peso. If the price for a girl in Sosúa is about 1,000-1,500 pesos for ST and 2,000-3,000 for LT (aka TLN), how much would a Haitian girl in Pétionville take and consider fair?

Would they take a swimsuit and/or Victoria's secret panties or a hairdryer in lieu of money?

Take care Ayyyypapi, I know that you are in the know on such things!!!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]While patiently waiting for those spectacular videos and photos with bated breath, perhaps you could inform us about the typical prices for the girls in gourdes.

A gourde is slightly less than a DR peso. If the price for a girl in Sosúa is about 1,000-1,500 pesos for ST and 2,000-3,000 for LT (aka TLN), how much would a Haitian girl in Pétionville take and consider fair?

Would they take a swimsuit and/or Victoria's secret panties or a hairdryer in lieu of money?

Take care Ayyyypapi, I know that you are in the know on such things!!!![/QUOTE]1.5M Gourdes for hour/ 2M all night, plus a celphone if u dont chicaproof your stuff. Don't think they won't steal your condoms either.

[QUOTE=Brian5432]BB touched on this a little while ago.

ST = 750-850 Gourdes. LT = 1000 - 1400 Gourdes[/QUOTE]They would take yur camea, cellphone, condoms, bikinis, hairdryer and more money in in addition to money.

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]1.5M Gourdes for hour/ 2M all night, plus a celphone if u dont chicaproof your stuff. Don't think they won't steal your condoms either.[/QUOTE]

Those prices are higher than the ones given by Brian.
So, in the very end, they cost the same as chicks in the Dominican Republic. For some reason, I was led to think it would be cheaper. At least I know what to expect.

Ayyyypapi gets carried away. Badbear pays anywhere from 500 gdes to 1000 gdes. Devide that by 40 and you ahve the dollar. Occasionally if I get a real hot one I will pay a little more.


[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Those prices are higher than the ones given by Brian.
So, in the very end, they cost the same as chicks in the Dominican Republic. For some reason, I was led to think it would be cheaper. At least I know what to expect.[/QUOTE]

Just returned from BadBear's place and a long weekend in Haiti. This was my first trip to Haiti and I can't compare it to the DR as I've never been there either. I've gotten around, however, Argentina, Thailand, PI, Costa Rica etc.

Haiti's an interesting place and I'm glad I went. I'll certainly return. For those of you who are thinking about going, there isn't a better guide or place to stay than at BadBears place. He is the 'host with the most'. He's been in Haiti for some time, he knows the culture and the way things work and your not going to find a better resource. The house has huge rooms all with an attached bathroom and Bear's staff is great. It's secure and fairly close to the nightlife and walking distance to at least one local market. There are pro's there but actually one's best bet is to either walk, drive around or go on a weekend night to a nightclub in Petitionville. If you like chocolate with a nice round booty and small waist, Haiti is the place. There are some stunners walking around and there were a few at JetSet, a nightclub in Petiionville. Bear set us up with a couple of girls to take us to the club on Sat. Night and they were great. They told us if we saw something else we liked to go for it but they were ready to shake it on the dance floor whenever we were ready. You couldn't ask for more. Bear's got some friends that brought some girls over on Sunday. We dranked and frolicked in the pool. Had a good time.

I recommend that anyone going pick up at least a little French or Creole. It hindered me and my partner when we weren't able to say anything at all to a hottie we saw. Thankfully, the girls that escorted us translated for us but a little French or Creole would have gone a long way. I suggest downloading some Creole from byki.com. It has a free download and if you want more terms or words you can pay for a more complete download. I won't return to Haiti without having some Creole or French in my repetoire. There are opportunities in Haiti and the Haitian girl that got ahold of me did it right, didn't ask for any money (I donated anyway after she got dressed and left the room) and left me smilin'. I'm too picky for my own good but the opportunities are there to tap a Haitian a couple of times a day if you want. All in all, a good trip. I met some good people, learned a little, stroked a hot little Haitian ass and will definately return.

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Guys it is coming. There will be videos and pics. These videos want be of some guy banging the chicks. They are just videos of the girls dancing and maybe putting lotion on a hot body but i can assure you it will want you to pack up your bags and head to Haiti.



[QUOTE=Salsero 2310]Hey Bad Bear,

Please post the most black girls with their open pussies soon as posible.

Haitianas are my favorite girls![/QUOTE]

At last, I have arrived at Coco House, I mean Chocolate House, I mean Haiti House.

I arrived, quite bedraggled and semi-coherent after an overnight in a waiting lounge at Miami International Airport, in Toussaint Louvrature Airport.

As we deplaned, images from the movie "The Comedians" came to mind but these are certainly different times. After going through customs, I came out and was immediately accosted by all manner of touts ranging from taxi touts to hotel touts. Then, amid the crowd, a hat bearing "Bad Bear" stood out. I waved at him and immediately another guy came over to me and said, in English, come with me, he is my boss!


I was so glad to BadBear and we immediately preceded to his somewhat beatup pickup. He actually stayed in the bed of the pickup while we made our way from the airport to Pétionville. Along the way, we could what could be best described as "Thailand meets Africa". The songlaew in Thailand or jeepneys in the Philippines are tap-taps in Haiti, a kind of pickup converted into a minibus. The names of the shops are amazing if you can understand Creole and French. One bizarre name: L'Homme, Pas Dieu (Man not God). I also failed to understand the meaning behind that one.

Haiti House as it will be formally know from hereon in, is a big house or like a small hotel. There is a small pool which is good for cooling down though not for training Michael Phelps. I met the other guests including a nice gentleman from Georgia and Ayyyypapi. There are also a couple of woman who take care of the housework and cooking not to forget Joseph who does everything else. There is great internet setup and even cable TV will be coming up soon. The rooms are spacious and air-conditioned. Everything is American-style as far as food is concerned since you can just help yourself to the fridge. There are also fixed meals. A great value.


One might ask, great but give me Sosúa and the beach over Pétionville. If that is what you are after, I would say you are right but if you are into beautiful, high-quality, non-jaded girls, this is what you might be looking for. Girls stream into and out of the house. Some are stunners but you have to make your approach as they won't come on to you. No tigresas like in Sosúa out here. Even you manage not to hitch up with the talent flowing in, BadBear and Ayyypapi have perfected the art of trolling (trawling for me) the streets. At first, you freak out.

Ayyypapi and I just walked down Delmas street and when we saw a girl we liked, all we did was invite them to our place for a swim and we got their number. They were more than willing to give it out. Imagine doing that in the States. Seeing a girl that tickles your fancy, stop her, invite her, and then you get her number. Ayyyypapi says that it is virtually guaranteed that they will play in the play once they came to your house. I believe him now but it is hard to do so unless you actually see it in person.


Trawling for babes at night is mind-boggling. Here you are, meandering in and out of some of the worst-kept, worst-lit streets around in the murky Haitian night, looking for luscious, unspoilt ebony babes, Believe me, their eboniness renders them nearly invisible in the murkiness unless the headlights are directly on them. In the end, even on a lacklustre rainy Monday night, you are guaranteed to find someone you like. BadBear is an amazing expert at this.

On my first night in Haiti, I went on a hunting/trawlling expedition. We went through all kinds of streets, all of which looked rather dodgy if not downright seed. I suppose it only enhances the mystique to it all. Then, in the darkness, somehow Ayyypapi spotted the girl I had been longing for: Marina. She was happy to see him but he told her that she would be with me, for which I was grateful and I don't think she minded too much either. Ayyypapi told me she was a firecracker but I was not prepared for pure dynamite.

After a very hot soapy shower together, we got down to horizontal activities. She absolutely loves DATY and came several times. You can't fake that because you feel the muscle contractions when all the sweetness is released all at once. Marina laughed every time she came. She also had the uncanny ability to keep my member rigid even after bodily fluids were joyously emitted. Indeed, we went on and on for hours. If I had not been there, I would not have believed it for myself. This was repeated again early in the morning. She really came a lot of times. The only down side was the brief argument over remuneration for services rendered but Ayyyypapi cleared things in the end. All in all, amazing that my dream of being with Marina came true. Welcome to Haiti!!!!!!!!

Many congratulations for taking the plunge, CL, and thanks for reporting back. If the reports are consistently good I shall be there within a few months for sure. Just need some of my DR haitianas to give me some intensive Kreyol practice first. I have the books and CDs but you cannot beat that intimate tuition.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]The only down side was the brief argument over remuneration for services rendered.[/QUOTE]
Now that is what I don't like. It always takes the edge off it for me which is why I got fed up with Sosúa dominicanas and I never get that problem from haitianas in the DR . How did that come about? Could it have been avoided by agreeing a price first?

First of all, I never spend more that 1000 gourdes unless I spend all night and day with them. Many of the girls are going to try to after sell you. I don't care if you give them $500 U.S., they may say too little. They are trying to get as much as they can. This does not mean you have to give in. When they say too little, that is all I have but I want you to come back. It is like you selling your car. You obviously want as much as you can get for it. You always wonder if you left too much on the table. That is how it is with the girls. I just gave Cunning Linguist a crash course on paying for nookie.




[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Many congratulations for taking the plunge, CL, and thanks for reporting back. If the reports are consistently good I shall be there within a few months for sure. Just need some of my DR haitianas to give me some intensive Kreyol practice first. I have the books and CDs but you cannot beat that intimate tuition.


Now that is what I don't like. It always takes the edge off it for me which is why I got fed up with Sosúa dominicanas and I never get that problem from haitianas in the DR . How did that come about? Could it have been avoided by agreeing a price first?[/QUOTE]

I just had to post this. After Ayyyypapi and Cunning Linguist let their girls out the gate, Cunning Linguist looked at me and said he was in aaauuuhhhh. He could not believe a girl could be this hot. She had multiple orgasms and just kept going. He said it made him feel like a 25 year old again. Now, you know why I came back to Haiti. It is the new Fountain of Youth.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Many congratulations for taking the plunge, CL, and thanks for reporting back. If the reports are consistently good I shall be there within a few months for sure. Just need some of my DR haitianas to give me some intensive Kreyol practice first. I have the books and CDs but you cannot beat that intimate tuition.


Now that is what I don't like. It always takes the edge off it for me which is why I got fed up with Sosúa dominicanas and I never get that problem from haitianas in the DR . How did that come about? Could it have been avoided by agreeing a price first?[/QUOTE]

Thanks Charles, I have been thinking about this time for months and I am now living my dream.
When I was in Sosúa last week, I committed blatant racial and cultural discrimination: I only went with the darkest of Haitian girls. However, as I mentioned in my latest report in the Sosúa thread, they are equally as jaded as Dominicanas once they become Dominicanized. Nevertheless, I only sought non-Dominicanized Haitians and it always did the trick.

In any case, yes indeed, the situation could have been avoided if we had agreed on the price beforehand. Normally I do this but this time round, I was desperate, it was the first day, and then I was overwhelmed by the prospect of doing Marina. From here on out, I will doing things as I always do, i.e. agree to a price beforehand. Nevertheless, in no moment was there a Dominican or Thai style of ranting and cursing. Only "Très petit" (very little) with a little moping and air of disappointment. Hell, I even gave her a genuine pair of Victoria Secret's panties, complete with label. It helped a bit but she still would have settled for a 1000 gourdes more or even a thousand pounds sterling if she could have got away with it.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Haitian girls ... are equally as jaded as Dominicanas once they become Dominicanized. Nevertheless, I only sought non-Dominicanized Haitians and it always did the trick.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I always try to do that. Look for wet and sandy ankles showing they have just waded across the Rio Masacre. They only take three months in the DR to go downhill. Or one month if in Sosúa.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]
In any case, yes indeed, the situation could have been avoided if we had agreed on the price beforehand. Normally I do this but this time round, I was desperate, it was the first day, and then I was overwhelmed by the prospect of doing Marina. From here on out, I will doing things as I always do, i.e. agree to a price beforehand.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry if I gave even the slightest suspicion that I was criticising your method. First, it is none of my business. Second, I imagine you are a lot more experienced than me at negotiating. And, third, I might have paid twice as much as you and would still have been delighted at what I got for my money by the sound of your report.

It isn't the price level I object to. It is the sour taste when the chica tries to renege on a deal, regardless of whether she wants to up from 500 to 1000 or from 2500 to 3500. As I wrote, I rarely get that from "fresh" haitianas in the DR so I was hoping to avoid it in the mother country.

I shall turn to this page eagerly each day hoping to read more of your adventures.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist] From here on out, I will doing things as I always do, i.e. agree to a price beforehand. [/QUOTE]Always a good practice in any country. Of course, you should have some idea of a "going rate". Definately not the drama in Haiti when this happens (very rarely) as it is in other places.

500-1000 gourdes ($12-$25US) is not alot for an hour or two with an unjaded beauty. All night is typically not my style but I imagine 1500-1600 gourde (+/- $40US) would have been appropriate. What was the final resolution?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Yes, I always try to do that. Look for wet and sandy ankles showing they have just waded across the Rio Masacre. They only take three months in the DR to go downhill. Or one month if in Sosúa.

I am sorry if I gave even the slightest suspicion that I was criticising your method. First, it is none of my business. Second, I imagine you are a lot more experienced than me at negotiating. And, third, I might have paid twice as much as you and would still have been delighted at what I got for my money by the sound of your report.

It isn't the price level I object to. It is the sour taste when the chica tries to renege on a deal, regardless of whether she wants to up from 500 to 1000 or from 2500 to 3500. As I wrote, I rarely get that from "fresh" haitianas in the DR so I was hoping to avoid it in the mother country.

I shall turn to this page eagerly each day hoping to read more of your adventures.[/QUOTE]Marina is #1 in my book. I'm glad we found her. She's bi, and I was with her friend. Verry HOT also. Ecause we wanted them both back we gave them 2M each plus taptap money. Nobody hotter than Marina. But if money is an issue, then give it up and agree to be a steady boyfriend like Bad Bear did. Free pussy, but just one pussy. Last night this true 18 y. O virgin beauty (in the green towel) wanted to give it up for me. What a suprise. I have never been with a virgin. Blew away the notion that by age 18 all Haitianas have fuckec over 1000 times. Wroong. Another stereotype. How many 18yo white american virgin beauties are there? MMMmmmmm. I think 3. But it could be as many as 5. I did not go "thru" with it, but we did everything else. The other pic is of a babe who wanted me to be her boyfriend as well. I'm new here so not gonna happen that fast. Bad Bear has been here 28 years, so I may take up a permanent girlfriend in about 20 years. Need to sort thru all some of the finest hottest babes in the universe first. So if you want it for FREE, you got it. And forever. If you want to pay, you got it for one night, until 5am then g'bye. That is really the truth. But an extra 500G is an extra 12 bucks. I respect those on a tight budget. But if I'm also not pissed over spending an xtra 12 bucks for a fantastic babe. But you almost do need to have a signed contract (as if that would work) for them not to ask for more. Especially in a mansion.

On my second day, I had to rest. Marina quite literally drained me of all my man juices.

One thing that I have had to learn here is that you have to be a bit forward or else you get nothing. There are plenty of girls around but you have to make a pass at them otherwise nothing happens.

In any case, on my third day here, Marina and her friend, Gadie, came. Ayyyypapi had them come and around 4 o'clock or so, they came. They were given swim suits to wear and they made a beeline to the small pool. That was where the fun began. After playing catch with some plastic balls, things started getting kinky. Marina started humping my leg and I was freaking out.I was getting her off by petting her in her erogenous zones. Eventually, her friend also got randy. Bikini bottoms started dropping and Ayyyypapi had the presence of mind to record some of this on film which I know he will be posting soon. Quite candid shots were taken. Ayyypapi and Marina then started getting it on and then Marina really started getting off. Needless to say, the water got quite rough. Gadie and I started as well but, unlike a pro like Ayyyypapi, the temperature of the water and new girls coming in inhibited my member from growing strong.
Eventually, we headed upstairs and did what nature intended a man and woman to do. Gadie has a muscular yet taut spinner of a body. The amazing thing is that she never works out but you would never know it.
All in all, an amazing time. We also worked out the price beforehand thereby preventing any drama.

Come to the Haiti House and make your own videos and take your own pics. Text message me for details and pricing. If you want to enjoy the hot chocolate this year, I suggest you make your reservations soon. The place is heating up and I don't mean from the sun.

This weekend I will post nude pics of my 5th wife. Somethings are just to good to keep for yourself. At this time she is off limits but I guess it is ok to look at her pics and jerk off. She has a perfect body and I am going to have problems moving on to wife number 6.

Bb,

You must have lived a great life up to this point to be having the exquisite good luck you are having with your wives. God bless you, Brother Bear! Since I have a Spirit fare that must be used before January, I hope to be able to get down to see you and your many wives.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000] This weekend I will post nude pics of my 5th wife. Somethings are just to good to keep for yourself. At this time she is off limits but I guess it is ok to look at her pics and jerk off. She has a perfect body and I am going to have problems moving on to wife number 6.[/QUOTE]

Ayyyypapi is in a hurry to get his new invention patented. He calls it "SexSnax". You see, when it gets late at night, these girls get horney and hungry. And I mean HORNY and HUNGRY. They chew on everything in sight like Tasmanian Devils. Miicrowaved "SexSnax" can be prepared and devoured by 3-4 girls at once, in the time it takes AyyyyPapi to change a condom.

i have just returned from a two week trip at badbear's haitian playboy mansion, and the (tails) tales can tell themselves. a little background on me 1st is due. i've done both rio and thailand. i enjoy variety in women (shape, hue, height and race), and was at a lack of the darkest of dark skin tones in my area for some time now. i had originally planned to fly to ghana africa, a guaranteed place i could get it out of my system and then enjoy some more fruits of nature. until i saw the posted photos of a couple of extremely dark skin girls located in the haiti photo gallery.

after contacting badbear and finding out that they as well as other hues were available in large numbers i decided to gamble, being that i spoke no creole or french and take a chance of traveling to haiti to see availability and potential monger scenery for myself as opposed to flying to africa where it was guaranteed. i figured if worse came to worse i could hop a flight across the border and guarantee some fun.

the flight totaled $389 roundtrip on spirit as opposed to africa $1500, from the us eastern seaboard. and the cost of staying at the haitian playboy mansion (my own name for it now) would be the same as staying at a decent hotel in uganda. but i got so much more for the money! a large room with private bath, internet, tv., pool, breakfast, laundry service, beverages including alcohol, someone who absolutely enjoys trawling for the ladies), translating with the ladies enough to get them in the vehicle and back to the lair for you. showing you the town, airport pickup and delivery service, etc.. gents expect that price to go up soon and it will be still worth more than you are spending because it's truly underpriced. don't get upset with me it's really just opening up and they have already realized it themselves. now for the report: the truth is i really only remember the first five days and the remainder became a blur with all the ladies running in and me kicking them out making room for the new ones daily.

day 1

i arrive at the airport and had to work my way thru customs. i forgot to retrieve the address of where i was staying and badbears phone number. i was relying on the fact that he would meet me outside the airport only. but customs wasn't too hard; the officers after 15 mins of telling them that my contact was outside in gestures and english actually gave me the name of a hotel to write down as my place of stay and released me. thank god it wasn't the us. badbear arrived a little while after me getting outside and was easily recognizable, big tall white guy amongst the sea of darker faces. i approach him we greet each other, i present him with a baseball cap that says badbear on the front (i read he wanted one) and head for home a 25 min ride from the airport. a little on badbear, one the best guys you could ever meet, sincere, fun, extremely hospitable, he by far is the host with the most. we arrive at a tall wall and a large gate that you cannot see thru, the gate opens and we have just arrived home. while walking toward my room and checking out the dark cuties in the pool i am introduced to a friend of the bears and it is the older white gent he spoke of that lives in the mountains and he came by to visit with one of young sexy girlfriends and her 18 yo. sexy spinner friend. i drop my bag and tour the rest of the house and meet the rest of the staff who were smiling and giving me the one of us is going to fuck you look. hell i was hoping it would be the both of them. myself bear and his and now my new hero sit down and chat while the hero gives me a lesson on how to get the ladies to come home and screw you without speaking the language. apparently it works because he had a couple of hot ones in the pool. an hour goes by and he tells me he is only screwing one of the girls and if i am interested let it be known. well hell yeah those two dark brown, spinner body chicks had my dick hard before i found out who they were with. he goes over to his girlfriend who he is teaching english to (yes the bear and his friends are re. colonizing haiti to speak english) and tells her to tell her friend i am interested in her. before i could get out of my room she was knocking on my door. mauldline was her name and she was no pro or semi pro by any means she was so tight she could have almost passed as a virgin. i still only got half way in the entire night. she sucked me bb and fucked me all night whatever i wanted. a knock came at my door around sevenish and it is the cook looking extremely good saying she stopped by to say goodnight. i believe she wanted to do more than that but since i had company i winked, smiled and told her i'll see her the next day. in the morning i had to work to get rid of mauldline she wanted to stay with me and asked me for nothing. i told her to go home and see about her mother and to buy themselves something nice and that i would call her later and gave her 1000 gourdes about $25 us which i borrowed from bear because we didn't have time to get to the bank or to get a phone on my first day. she was so excited by the gesture and was even more excited at the fact that i was going to call her later. forgot to tell you guys that i carry my laptop on every monger trip and use the google translate tool in order to exchange words with the ladies when we are not screwing and gesturing. just type in googletranslate in google search and when the page is up you two can type in what you have to say to each other.

day 2.

badbear heads out to the airport to meet vegas flyer another great person to hang with. i have always mongered solo in the past but i'm convinced after this trip you can definitely have fun with other mongers out on the prowl. i go online to do what i have always done ahead of time. i checkout afrointroductions, latinamericancupid and badoo.com (bear turned me on to the latter) in order to make some connects the easy way. no responses that day. badbear really can't get out that day he's come down hard with the flu. but he takes me anyway to the local market to exchange cash and get any items i may need. the exchange rate is 41.25 gourdes per $1 us. i check out the poverty going and coming and realize they live a tough life. i retreat to the pool with my beer and while there the cook joins me and tells me in broken english she likes me and she wants the peter. i am a little weary of screwing the help in reality because when they get jealous bad things can happen during the entire stay. she goes and get badbears current wife to translate for her and tells me that she likes me and wants to know if i like her. i have translated that i like her but am not looking for a girlfriend. she translates she is very jealous. (fellas get used to that hearing that all from all the girls here.) i have translated that i cannot be with her if she is going to be jealous and she suddenly changes her tune. she wants me anyway and she won't be jealous. imagine that.? ! that night she knocks on the door to give me a goodnight bbbj and superb fuck. she doesn't ask but afterwards i give her $1000 gourdes $25 and send her home doubly happy. do not want her to think i owe her anything.

day 3

we all go out to a bikini model show at a hotel nearby and i meet a girl who is currently working in haiti from the uk. white, sexy, we talk and exchange numbers and she wants to hook up on monday or later because she is working that weekend. after the show badbears gets his ex-wife and her sexy cousin to take us to club jet set. beautiful women are everywhere but we don't poly any french or creole so we admire from the dance floor where we dance with our guides who were more than happy to translate for us to any girl. i didn't feel right about using the hero's tactics in small confines. we figure just a little introductory french or creole would have aided in a great so we call it a night.

day 4

pool party sundays got to love them. bootylover shows up with a handful of sexy girls.--some pros and some semi pros. we party hard, one comes on too me (she speaks english the rest don't) and ask for $100 us to do whatever i wanted with her. after i finished laughing i told her $25 us. she continues to sell me on the $100 and i thank her and move on she was nice looking but the others were even hotter. i get booty lover to call two back to my room for fun and we negotiate down to $40 us each. i know it was too high for the area but no other prospects for the night and they were hot and semi pros i expected hot rio/ thailand action. we shower together and i get a nice double bbbj and hot lesbian scene. i start to fuck one and the other goes off and comes back a few minutes later then puts her panties on and gets what i believe to be is jealous. she wants to ruin the fun because the other got screwed first. any way i try to get her involved but her bad attitude makes my dick limp so i had to put her out. i gave her $1000 gourdes to scram. she walked out with no argument but return every 2 mins to talk to the other who kept putting her out. after the third time i told the second girl forget it. she locked the door and yelled at the 1st thru it when she knocked again. she returned to me and tells me in broken english and the little french i picked up that day that she wants no money and she's sorry. she begs in french to stay while trying to caress and hug me, after my continuous no's she ask to come spend time with me the following day. i took her number and gave her $ 1500 gourdes $37 us. she looks sad and leaves, i dispose of the number.

day 5

badbear takes me on a ride while he handles a little business. and we see walking the most beautiful black french model. a definite runway and photo goddess. we slow down i smile and she smiles back so we stop. i ask badbear to translate but she states that she speaks english as well. hallelujah brother! she hops in with us. she and i spend the day together we pick up a friend for aaypapi another permanent house guest. a little on aaypapi, cool guy, wild and crazy, always down for fun and keeps two women that goes both ways at all times. got to admire that shit. thanks for the memories. after some wild frolicking in the pool we take the girls to our separate quarters and have a wild night. i give mine 250 gourdes $6 us in the morning and tell her i ll call her later. this chick can eat and drink. her favorite question is "where's the beer and the whisky? " this is where things pick up and the names and faces get blurry. badbear and aaypapi keep so many women running in and out with their girlfriends you can't help but get screwed at least twice a day by someone new. they keep coming back with new friends all non pros just wanting boyfriends. since this day i had no need to step out to meet girls we kept so many running in and out i did not have time to meet neither the haitian girls who gave me their number over the internet nor the white girl from the uk who kept blowing up my phone. you have to take a pic with your cell phone to even attempt to remember them all. too many too screw them all and they will all hound you by calling you all day whether you screw them or not. and yes i understand why the big iron gate now. i must admit i had a gorgeous stalker chic who showed up twice uninvited. had to kick her out because i was busy with new chicks. we hung out in town a lot and i felt no harm at any time. the people are friendly. the girls love to hook up but you must approach them first, these are not latinas. and i screwed so many i can't keep count. all had super tight pussies i couldn't get it all in and yes one girl did do anal and i screwed so many super dark hot young girls it's out of my system for a while.

if you like black women of all hues and want to spend as little as possible go to haiti. sexy sexy sexy goregeous women everywhere and i am picky. i love the body scent it keeps the dick super hard. the pro scene is not that strong but the non pros oh my ______. they keep it hot and they are extremely hot. the pool parties got hotter daily and i'm talking non pros gone wild. the best i' ve ever seen. you must go. i'm glad i saved plenty of cash and did' not go to africa.

things you may want to know when you go:

1. get the address and phone number from badbear before you leave.

2. not necessary but only helps, pick up some introductory french or creole. you will get laid continuously by beautiful girls without it don't worry.

3. meet some girls on badoo.com or afro introductions ahead of time if you want to hit the ground running at top speed. port au prince area. still not necessary because once you get going it's too much to handle.

4. take pics of the girls with your phone while you get their number. they will all call or text the hell out of you.

5. you will more than likely only screw one of the staff, pick the one you want that includes one of the translators vicky. because the remainder will all back off once you tagged one.

6. bring plenty of condoms i left home with 66 and returned with probably less than 11. they love bare back too.

7. expect the price to go up you will need breakfast for two and dinner for two daily. always a new chick. also beer on tap, there are so many girls and they all drink like fish and that's ok. also they run through the towels and bed sheets (well you know) etc. i kept giving more and buying items i thought the house may need. there were just so many girls there!

8) bring bikinis for the girls, you keep them but they will get out of their clothes faster if you have them. thanks to badbear, ayypapi and vegas flyer for the use of theirs.

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Just a few questions. I have been to the DR alot and want something different so can anyone help me out with my questions. I have looked at the past posts and did not see anything.

1. Does the Haiti House have a website?

2. Are there any decent restaurants near the Haiti House?

Thanks in advance.

I have read the past posts and am curious about a few things.

I have been to DR alot and ready for a new adventure can anyone tell me.

Is there a website for Haiti House?

Are there decent restaurants close?

Thanks in advance

We will have a website within a few days. There are restaurants within 5-15 minutes of the Haiti House but you will soon learn that eating at the Haiti House is more enjoyable and less expensive than the restaurants. Meals are included in our prices because of the prices and slow service you receive in most restaurants


[QUOTE=Thelmas Gone]Just a few questions. I have been to the DR alot and want something different so can anyone help me out with my questions. I have looked at the past posts and did not see anything.

1. Does the Haiti House have a website?

2. Are there any decent restaurants near the Haiti House?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

thank you for the post. i don't think i could have introduced the haiti house any better. myself and the staff are looking forward to your return.

[quote=sawassdee]i have just returned from a two week trip at badbear's haitian playboy mansion, and the (tails) tales can tell themselves. a little background on me 1st is due. i've done both rio and thailand. i enjoy variety in women (shape, hue, height and race), and was at a lack of the darkest of dark skin tones in my area for some time now. i had originally planned to fly to ghana africa, a guaranteed place i could get it out of my system and then enjoy some more fruits of nature. until i saw the posted photos of a couple of extremely dark skin girls located in the haiti photo gallery.

after contacting badbear and finding out that they as well as other hues were available in large numbers i decided to gamble, being that i spoke no creole or french and take a chance of traveling to haiti to see availability and potential monger scenery for myself as opposed to flying to africa where it was guaranteed. i figured if worse came to worse i could hop a flight across the border and guarantee some fun.

the flight totaled $389 roundtrip on spirit as opposed to africa $1500, from the us eastern seaboard. and the cost of staying at the haitian playboy mansion (my own name for it now) would be the same as staying at a decent hotel in uganda. but i got so much more for the money! a large room with private bath, internet, tv., pool, breakfast, laundry service, beverages including alcohol, someone who absolutely enjoys trawling for the ladies), translating with the ladies enough to get them in the vehicle and back to the lair for you. showing you the town, airport pickup and delivery service, etc.. gents expect that price to go up soon and it will be still worth more than you are spending because it's truly underpriced. don't get upset with me it's really just opening up and they have already realized it themselves. now for the report: the truth is i really only remember the first five days and the remainder became a blur with all the ladies running in and me kicking them out making room for the new ones daily.

day 1

i arrive at the airport and had to work my way thru customs. i forgot to retrieve the address of where i was staying and badbears phone number. i was relying on the fact that he would meet me outside the airport only. but customs wasn't too hard; the officers after 15 mins of telling them that my contact was outside in gestures and english actually gave me the name of a hotel to write down as my place of stay and released me. thank god it wasn't the us. badbear arrived a little while after me getting outside and was easily recognizable, big tall white guy amongst the sea of darker faces. i approach him we greet each other, i present him with a baseball cap that says badbear on the front (i read he wanted one) and head for home a 25 min ride from the airport. a little on badbear, one the best guys you could ever meet, sincere, fun, extremely hospitable, he by far is the host with the most. we arrive at a tall wall and a large gate that you cannot see thru, the gate opens and we have just arrived home. while walking toward my room and checking out the dark cuties in the pool i am introduced to a friend of the bears and it is the older white gent he spoke of that lives in the mountains and he came by to visit with one of young sexy girlfriends and her 18 yo. sexy spinner friend. i drop my bag and tour the rest of the house and meet the rest of the staff who were smiling and giving me the one of us is going to fuck you look. hell i was hoping it would be the both of them. myself bear and his and now my new hero sit down and chat while the hero gives me a lesson on how to get the ladies to come home and screw you without speaking the language. apparently it works because he had a couple of hot ones in the pool. an hour goes by and he tells me he is only screwing one of the girls and if i am interested let it be known. well hell yeah those two dark brown, spinner body chicks had my dick hard before i found out who they were with. he goes over to his girlfriend who he is teaching english to (yes the bear and his friends are re. colonizing haiti to speak english) and tells her to tell her friend i am interested in her. before i could get out of my room she was knocking on my door. mauldline was her name and she was no pro or semi pro by any means she was so tight she could have almost passed as a virgin. i still only got half way in the entire night. she sucked me bb and fucked me all night whatever i wanted. a knock came at my door around sevenish and it is the cook looking extremely good saying she stopped by to say goodnight. i believe she wanted to do more than that but since i had company i winked, smiled and told her i'll see her the next day. in the morning i had to work to get rid of mauldline she wanted to stay with me and asked me for nothing. i told her to go home and see about her mother and to buy themselves something nice and that i would call her later and gave her 1000 gourdes about $25 us which i borrowed from bear because we didn't have time to get to the bank or to get a phone on my first day. she was so excited by the gesture and was even more excited at the fact that i was going to call her later. forgot to tell you guys that i carry my laptop on every monger trip and use the google translate tool in order to exchange words with the ladies when we are not screwing and gesturing. just type in googletranslate in google search and when the page is up you two can type in what you have to say to each other.

day 2.

badbear heads out to the airport to meet vegas flyer another great person to hang with. i have always mongered solo in the past but i'm convinced after this trip you can definitely have fun with other mongers out on the prowl. i go online to do what i have always done ahead of time. i checkout afrointroductions, latinamericancupid and badoo.com (bear turned me on to the latter) in order to make some connects the easy way. no responses that day. badbear really can't get out that day he's come down hard with the flu. but he takes me anyway to the local market to exchange cash and get any items i may need. the exchange rate is 41.25 gourdes per $1 us. i check out the poverty going and coming and realize they live a tough life. i retreat to the pool with my beer and while there the cook joins me and tells me in broken english she likes me and she wants the peter. i am a little weary of screwing the help in reality because when they get jealous bad things can happen during the entire stay. she goes and get badbears current wife to translate for her and tells me that she likes me and wants to know if i like her. i have translated that i like her but am not looking for a girlfriend. she translates she is very jealous. (fellas get used to that hearing that all from all the girls here.) i have translated that i cannot be with her if she is going to be jealous and she suddenly changes her tune. she wants me anyway and she won't be jealous. imagine that.? ! that night she knocks on the door to give me a goodnight bbbj and superb fuck. she doesn't ask but afterwards i give her $1000 gourdes $25 and send her home doubly happy. do not want her to think i owe her anything.

day 3

we all go out to a bikini model show at a hotel nearby and i meet a girl who is currently working in haiti from the uk. white, sexy, we talk and exchange numbers and she wants to hook up on monday or later because she is working that weekend. after the show badbears gets his ex-wife and her sexy cousin to take us to club jet set. beautiful women are everywhere but we don't poly any french or creole so we admire from the dance floor where we dance with our guides who were more than happy to translate for us to any girl. i didn't feel right about using the hero's tactics in small confines. we figure just a little introductory french or creole would have aided in a great so we call it a night.

day 4

pool party sundays got to love them. bootylover shows up with a handful of sexy girls.--some pros and some semi pros. we party hard, one comes on too me (she speaks english the rest don't) and ask for $100 us to do whatever i wanted with her. after i finished laughing i told her $25 us. she continues to sell me on the $100 and i thank her and move on she was nice looking but the others were even hotter. i get booty lover to call two back to my room for fun and we negotiate down to $40 us each. i know it was too high for the area but no other prospects for the night and they were hot and semi pros i expected hot rio/ thailand action. we shower together and i get a nice double bbbj and hot lesbian scene. i start to fuck one and the other goes off and comes back a few minutes later then puts her panties on and gets what i believe to be is jealous. she wants to ruin the fun because the other got screwed first. any way i try to get her involved but her bad attitude makes my dick limp so i had to put her out. i gave her $1000 gourdes to scram. she walked out with no argument but return every 2 mins to talk to the other who kept putting her out. after the third time i told the second girl forget it. she locked the door and yelled at the 1st thru it when she knocked again. she returned to me and tells me in broken english and the little french i picked up that day that she wants no money and she's sorry. she begs in french to stay while trying to caress and hug me, after my continuous no's she ask to come spend time with me the following day. i took her number and gave her $ 1500 gourdes $37 us. she looks sad and leaves, i dispose of the number.

day 5

badbear takes me on a ride while he handles a little business. and we see walking the most beautiful black french model. a definite runway and photo goddess. we slow down i smile and she smiles back so we stop. i ask badbear to translate but she states that she speaks english as well. hallelujah brother! she hops in with us. she and i spend the day together we pick up a friend for aaypapi another permanent house guest. a little on aaypapi, cool guy, wild and crazy, always down for fun and keeps two women that goes both ways at all times. got to admire that shit. thanks for the memories. after some wild frolicking in the pool we take the girls to our separate quarters and have a wild night. i give mine 250 gourdes $6 us in the morning and tell her i ll call her later. this chick can eat and drink. her favorite question is "where's the beer and the whisky? " this is where things pick up and the names and faces get blurry. badbear and aaypapi keep so many women running in and out with their girlfriends you can't help but get screwed at least twice a day by someone new. they keep coming back with new friends all non pros just wanting boyfriends. since this day i had no need to step out to meet girls we kept so many running in and out i did not have time to meet neither the haitian girls who gave me their number over the internet nor the white girl from the uk who kept blowing up my phone. you have to take a pic with your cell phone to even attempt to remember them all. too many too screw them all and they will all hound you by calling you all day whether you screw them or not. and yes i understand why the big iron gate now. i must admit i had a gorgeous stalker chic who showed up twice uninvited. had to kick her out because i was busy with new chicks. we hung out in town a lot and i felt no harm at any time. the people are friendly. the girls love to hook up but you must approach them first, these are not latinas. and i screwed so many i can't keep count. all had super tight pussies i couldn't get it all in and yes one girl did do anal and i screwed so many super dark hot young girls it's out of my system for a while.

if you like black women of all hues and want to spend as little as possible go to haiti. sexy sexy sexy goregeous women everywhere and i am picky. i love the body scent it keeps the dick super hard. the pro scene is not that strong but the non pros oh my ______. they keep it hot and they are extremely hot. the pool parties got hotter daily and i'm talking non pros gone wild. the best i' ve ever seen. you must go. i'm glad i saved plenty of cash and did' not go to africa.

things you may want to know when you go:

1. get the address and phone number from badbear before you leave.

2. not necessary but only helps, pick up some introductory french or creole. you will get laid continuously by beautiful girls without it don't worry.

3. meet some girls on badoo.com or afro introductions ahead of time if you want to hit the ground running at top speed. port au prince area. still not necessary because once you get going it's too much to handle.

4. take pics of the girls with your phone while you get their number. they will all call or text the hell out of you.

5. you will more than likely only screw one of the staff, pick the one you want that includes one of the translators vicky. because the remainder will all back off once you tagged one.

6. bring plenty of condoms i left home with 66 and returned with probably less than 11. they love bare back too.

7. expect the price to go up you will need breakfast for two and dinner for two daily. always a new chick. also beer on tap, there are so many girls and they all drink like fish and that's ok. also they run through the towels and bed sheets (well you know) etc. i kept giving more and buying items i thought the house may need. there were just so many girls there!

8) bring bikinis for the girls, you keep them but they will get out of their clothes faster if you have them. thanks to badbear, ayypapi and vegas flyer for the use of theirs.

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Sawassdee,
That was a great report! BadBear is a great host and the place is beautiful.

So you're saying there's lots of girls there? hahaha

Hopefully you'll post some pics.

Thanks again!

Badbear you spoiled me sir. I have not had a good meal since I left. And I can't find the sweet haitian mangos any where. Everything taste like crap now since my return. We are going to have to work out a mail away weekly meal plan than includes the mangos. LOL.

A little heads up. While there I depended somewhat on paypal and a walmart prepaid visa debit card I set up just for the trip. Paypal would not allow me to pay the remainder of my bill from haiti with any of my accounts I had setup with them but one. (the one with very little money in it) There was no phone help or online help with them to allow access to my other accounts. Secondly, I set up a prepaid visa debit card to control any loss if robbed. The banks in haiti kept showing a decline on their usage. Fortunately I brought an additional visa bank card as a backup. Cash, bank cards and major creditcards appeared to be my only aid.

Only 4 girls out of the many my entire stay asked for money or items from the store. The others never asked or even gestured. I gave them all diffrent amounts regardless depending on what we did. All from 200 gourdes upto 1000 gourdes except for the two pros from my report. The ones who recieved less were either on their period and all gave great tit and BBBJ or they ate and drank more than 2 men twice their size.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]We will have a website within a few days. There are restaurants within 5-15 minutes of the Haiti House but you will soon learn that eating at the Haiti House is more enjoyable and less expensive than the restaurants. Meals are included in our prices because of the prices and slow service you receive in most restaurants[/QUOTE]


BB2K,

What part of PaP is the house in? Are you prepared to share information about costs, etc?

Thanks

DK

I noticed a news story that gives a pretty good idea why the girls are very happy with the cash gifts they are getting. They just tried to raise the minimum wage in the export assembly sector from 70 to 200 gourdes - and failed to raise it that high. 200 gourdes for an 8 hour day (less than $5 US) is a wage that people aspire to (and don't usually get in a market with 50% or more unemployment).

[url]http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48146[/url]

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]I noticed a news story that gives a pretty good idea why the girls are very happy with the cash gifts they are getting. They just tried to raise the minimum wage in the export assembly sector from 70 to 200 gourdes - and failed to raise it that high. 200 gourdes for an 8 hour day (less than $5 US) is a wage that people aspire to (and don't usually get in a market with 50% or more unemployment).

[url]http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48146[/url][/QUOTE]


Just for perspective...

I have a friend who has a live-in maid/cook in suburban Port-au-Prince. She wakes up early, mops the floor, has his breakfast on the table by 9am, does the occasional food shopping, prepares dinner, keeps the house clean, etc. All of the duties that you would expect of the traditional maid function. I've eaten at his house, and she is an excellent cook and does a great job with keeping the house clean and his clothes laundered. Picture this: she lets him know when his food is on the table. He sits down and eats. Gets up and walks away. She clears the table, and washes the dishes. Sweet life, huh?

He provides her with room and board, and pays her US$ 150 per month. He treats her quite respectfully. And she is THRILLED with that. Her friends/acquaintances make substantially less. She can essentially "bank" her five dollars (U.S.) per day. She doesn't have to commute via tap-tap. She doesn't pay rent anywhere else (just helps her mother and family). She pays for her son to attend a good school.

With all due respect, I see that some of you guys are advocating paying these young girls up to $30-40 US. That is a small fortune to them - although they would never let you know it. I can't envision the scenario where you should give more than $1000 gourdes ($25 US) for TLN.

Cost benchmark: a bottle of the world-class local rum is $4 US.

Don't turn these women into "HELP" garotas. Please. They get QUICKLY spoiled by money.

With deference to BB2K and Papi, I have some knowledge of the country and culture, and I would be happy to share what I know.

[QUOTE=Dark Knight]Just for perspective...
He provides her with room and board, and pays her US$ 150 per month. He treats her quite respectfully. And she is THRILLED with that. Her friends/acquaintances make substantially less. She can essentially "bank" her five dollars (U.S.) per day. She doesn't have to commute via tap-tap. She doesn't pay rent anywhere else (just helps her mother and family). She pays for her son to attend a good school.

With all due respect, I see that some of you guys are advocating paying these young girls up to $30-40 US. That is a small fortune to them - although they would never let you know it. I can't envision the scenario where you should give more than $1000 gourdes ($25 US) for TLN.
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At 41:1 - $150(US) is 6150 Gourdes vs. 4000-5000 in an export plant (piecework rates) with no room and board or probably half that for a typical maid she's got a sweet job. He's doing well to have someone who feels good about her job and watches out for the place.

Bad Bear wrote:
"This is something you pretty well decide on your own. For ST maybe 20. For LT 25 to 40. It really depends on how good the service is. I have an old friend that spends 500 gdes which is about 13. Expensive it is not. Good it is not. It is GREAT. Trust me. If you like sweet chocolate, you are going to love Haiti."

BB also wrote:

"Ayyyypapi gets carried away. Badbear pays anywhere from 500 gdes to 1000 gdes. Devide that by 40 and you ahve the dollar. Occasionally if I get a real hot one I will pay a little more."

A modest explanation: I don't think there's any disagreement...

If you pay in dollars the convenient bill is the $20 if you pay in Gourdes it's the 500. Nobody is going to ask for change - and generally prices tend toward round figures. The fact that a $20 bill is over 800 gourdes rather than 500 doesn't change this. If you want to economize pay in gourdes.

These gourde rates happen to be exactly the same as the gringo rates in the DR (in pesos) before about 2003 or so. For quite a few years the standard was 500 pesos st/ 1000 lt. It's now about twice that in the DR so the Haiti rate would be a bit less than half the DR rate in dollar terms. In the DR you'd pay a lot more if you pay in dollars too. About half matches the difference between the general labor rates in the DR and Haiti and is the reason so many Haitians migrate to the DR looking for work.

As always some guys will just overpay and some girls will rapidly learn that it's stupid to not ask for more regardless of what you get. Based on BadBear and the posters with experience though - there seems to be a consensus that the normal rate is 500/1000 a bit less than half of DR prices converted to dollars.

Thanks for a really excellent report. Any other details of your trip, thoughts or observations would be very welcome.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]At 41:1 - $150(US) is 6150 Gourdes vs. 4000-5000 in an export plant (piecework rates) with no room and board or probably half that for a typical maid she's got a sweet job. He's doing well to have someone who feels good about her job and watches out for the place.

Bad Bear wrote:
"This is something you pretty well decide on your own. For ST maybe 20. For LT 25 to 40. It really depends on how good the service is. I have an old friend that spends 500 gdes which is about 13. Expensive it is not. Good it is not. It is GREAT. Trust me. If you like sweet chocolate, you are going to love Haiti."

BB also wrote:

"Ayyyypapi gets carried away. Badbear pays anywhere from 500 gdes to 1000 gdes. Devide that by 40 and you ahve the dollar. Occasionally if I get a real hot one I will pay a little more."

A modest explanation: I don't think there's any disagreement...

If you pay in dollars the convenient bill is the $20 if you pay in Gourdes it's the 500. Nobody is going to ask for change - and generally prices tend toward round figures. The fact that a $20 bill is over 800 gourdes rather than 500 doesn't change this. If you want to economize pay in gourdes.

These gourde rates happen to be exactly the same as the gringo rates in the DR (in pesos) before about 2003 or so. For quite a few years the standard was 500 pesos st/ 1000 lt. It's now about twice that in the DR so the Haiti rate would be a bit less than half the DR rate in dollar terms. In the DR you'd pay a lot more if you pay in dollars too. About half matches the difference between the general labor rates in the DR and Haiti and is the reason so many Haitians migrate to the DR looking for work.

As always some guys will just overpay and some girls will rapidly learn that it's stupid to not ask for more regardless of what you get. Based on BadBear and the posters with experience though - there seems to be a consensus that the normal rate is 500/1000 a bit less than half of DR prices converted to dollars.[/QUOTE]

The price depends on many factors:
1- will you be a repeat customer in the very short term
2- how low she is on the poverty scale (cue: she's asking for food)
3- how much she's invested in her appearance (clothes, body cream, hair, cleanliness, etc.)
4- how educated she is (manners, foreign languages, etc.)
5- how well she stand compared to competition (big butt tend to have too high self esteem)
6- how a newbie you are (they get that quickly)
6- what is your/her skin color ( lighter is perceived to value more money)
7- how funny you are ( cheaper if you can make her laugh, not smile)
8- how experience she is (pros, semi pro)
9- how good are your negotiating skills
10- how many others are getting their contract while she hasn't yet
11- what is the time of the day/week (cheaper on daytime and on weekdays)
12- how you meet her (street pick, party, introduction, etc.)

Please bear in mind that the average price is 25 for a good piece, but you may find gems on the lower side and trash on the upper side

Note1. Always lock up your valuables even when dealing at or beyond 25
Note2. If you want multiple make sure the first one choose the others
Note3. Negotiate everything before getting started

[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]Anybody have bad bears contact info?

I want to plan a trip to Haiti.[/QUOTE]Just click on his name and shoot him a private message.

He will answer.

That is all it takes. I am waiting for you at the Haitihouse

[QUOTE=Sawassdee]Just click on his name and shoot him a private message.

He will answer.[/QUOTE]

Ayyyypapi and I went out troling last night and 3 seconds into the trole, Ayyyypapi spotted a hottie. Got telephone and a promise of a visit to the Haiti House.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Ayyyypapi and I went out troling last night and 3 seconds into the trole, Ayyyypapi spotted a hottie. Got telephone and a promise of a visit to the Haiti House.[/QUOTE]Verified. Initiated trol at 10:09:45 pm. Target was spotted humming westbound at 10:09:48 pm; intercepted upon a 180. Rating: 9/10. Will not pursue entry into Guinness Book of World Records since it is easy to break that record here.

I finally had a chance to stop by BB's house Monday afternoon before my Tuesday departure back to Miami, and walked into a mini carnival. As I walked in there were like 4 cuties dancing by the pool and Ayyyypapi was the DJ. I definitely liked what I was seeing.

I chatted with BB for a bit while watching two cuties playing with each other and giving a show in the pool. Got a tour of the house, safe and secure location. I give you a A++ BB for the house and the setup with the ladies. Thank you for receiving me so well and that meal was delicious !! If I wasn't pressed for time I probably would have hopped on Nadege the cook.....she had a killer booty.

I was please to meet Sergo and the rest of the staff, they were polite and helpful.
When I return to Haiti, I definitely will make it a priority to attend your parties.
Oh and Ayyyypapi I can see you are the perfect wingman, because you seem to be ready to party at any moment.

For those that are contemplating on going to Haiti, have no worries BB is awesome and will take good care of you!

Sorry no photos from this trip, I will try my best next time to take photos.

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Hornie B just texted me this info and like the anti-locking brakes that Mercedes invented and gave to the rest of the industry, this is too good to keep secret.
[url]http://www.airtransat.ca/en/Info/port-au-prince-roundtrip-flights-starting-at-.aspx?ExitID=918&ContentType=gamme&gclid=CObcxPmytpwCFdFL5Qodl2fHm[/url]

This is a link to a flight deal from Montreal to Haiti House. Well not exactly to the Haiti House but to Port-au-Prince, Haiti and we will get you to the Haiti House.
The price is less than $300

This past Monday, my wife's two cousins showed up and went for a swim. Then 2 lesbians belonging to the lesbo hunting king Ayyyypapi decided to join. Here I was in the pool with a hard on watching the girls start playing children games and guess what I joined in. It suddenly realized that it is more than sex the Haitian girls give you. They give you a young feeling because you are not worrying about the day to day problems but the fact that you are playing with 18 to 25 year old hotties and loving it. I am 62 years old and feeling younger every day.

You have been asking for it and you now have it. Our website is up and running with all the answers to the questions you have. haitihouse dot com

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]You have been asking for it and you now have it. Our website is up and running with all the answers to the questions you have. haitihouse dot com[/QUOTE]

Looks great, BB. Congratulations.

I thought that I should write this separately in this thread. I put my comments about Haiti House in the photo thread along with photos. Perhaps Jackson could start another thread for this (Haitian politics) like he has done on other threads such as the one in Thailand, but I cannot resist making a few comments on Haiti itself since any thinking person cannot avoid doing so. Indeed, I think it is important that some people should know about what is really going on here.

Though Badbear and some of his friends would sometimes respectfully disagree with me on the impossible politics of Haiti (Badbear has a big heart and loves Haiti very much as well as his friends), I still think that there are significant issues here.

I was appalled at the neocolonialist condition of Haiti as reflected by its impoverishment. There is a difference between being a poor country and being an impoverished country. Haiti is a rich country that has been made impoverished by the policies of the U.S. government, France, and Canada. Haiti was the first country in Latin America to gain its independence but it was quashed on account of the fact that it was the only example of a successful slave rebellion. The seering facts of history are everywhere whether it is on the money or in the minds of the people. Haiti had to pay enormous reparations to France for the loss of the slaves until 1948!!!! This sum resulted in making Haiti the basket case it is today. It is on everybody's lips there.

All of the poor people I talked to, all of them without an exception, were for Aristide, the twice ousted president of Haiti (in coups perpetrated by the U.S. and/or France) while all of the expats and richer Haitians I talked to, all of them, were vehemently against him.

Although everyone in Haiti can speak Creole, the language of the elite is French and English. Creole is absent from street signs, most schools, newspapers, but is present on the lips of most of the people and scrawlings on the walls and even billboards. It is really symptomatic of the deep social divide. 85% of Haitians only speak Creole and many of the other so-called French speakers speak rather lousy French. Nevertheless, there will be no role for Creole until the elite allows for it which they will not do willingly. It is in their interest to cut off the 85% of the people who are unable to speak French in order to better control them.

There might be some idiots who spew the "Haitian-blacks-are-stupid-and-lazy-and-therefore-poor" arguments or misinformed people there who rant against giving the vote to the masses there because they are too uneducated or stupid to elect pro-American stooges but I suggest reading "Damming the Flood: Haiti, Aristide, and the Politics of Containment" by Peter Hallward or "An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President" by Randall Robinson to get an idea about what lies behind Haiti's impoverishment.

I would also suggest listening to e: [url]http://web.mit.edu/webcast/tac/pugw...22feb02-16k.ram[/url]

which is a talk by Noam Chomsky and Paul Farmer (who actually lives in Haiti) in 2002. It was clear even then that Aristide was going to be overthrown by the U.S and their minions in Haiti. Indeed, he was swept up by the U.S. military and, against his will, whisked off to the Central African Republic in February, 2004. He now resides in South Africa.


Sorry if I have digressed from discussing the usual topics of Haitian pussy and the great availability thereof but I had to get this off my chest. One thing is screwing the girls, another thing is when another powerful country screws a weaker one, especially for a period of over 200 years..

It is hard to think about anything but pussy when you are in Haiti but I have to agree with CL in many of his statements. I do not think Aristide was the answer. I was here during most of his presidency. He got the poor people to vote for them by convincing them he would strip the rich of their money and give it to them. He turned them into cut-throat thieves while he loaded pallets full of money in his basement and shipped off to banks that were willing to hide his wealth. There are some wealthy families in Haiti that are good for Haiti and I have to agree there are some families that should be strung up. I would point out these families if it would do any good but more than likely it would just get the Haiti House blown up and then you guys would have no place to cum. Good evening and now back to pussy

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I thought that I should write this separately in this thread. I put my comments about Haiti House in the photo thread along with photos. Perhaps Jackson could start another thread for this (Haitian politics) like he has done on other threads such as the one in Thailand, but I cannot resist making a few comments on Haiti itself since any thinking person cannot avoid doing so. Indeed, I think it is important that some people should know about what is really going on here.

Though Badbear and some of his friends would sometimes respectfully disagree with me on the impossible politics of Haiti (Badbear has a big heart and loves Haiti very much as well as his friends), I still think that there are significant issues here.

I was appalled at the neocolonialist condition of Haiti as reflected by its impoverishment. There is a difference between being a poor country and being an impoverished country. Haiti is a rich country that has been made impoverished by the policies of the U.S. government, France, and Canada. Haiti was the first country in Latin America to gain its independence but it was quashed on account of the fact that it was the only example of a successful slave rebellion. The seering facts of history are everywhere whether it is on the money or in the minds of the people. Haiti had to pay enormous reparations to France for the loss of the slaves until 1948!!!! This sum resulted in making Haiti the basket case it is today. It is on everybody's lips there.

All of the poor people I talked to, all of them without an exception, were for Aristide, the twice ousted president of Haiti (in coups perpetrated by the U.S. and/or France) while all of the expats and richer Haitians I talked to, all of them, were vehemently against him.

Although everyone in Haiti can speak Creole, the language of the elite is French and English. Creole is absent from street signs, most schools, newspapers, but is present on the lips of most of the people and scrawlings on the walls and even billboards. It is really symptomatic of the deep social divide. 85% of Haitians only speak Creole and many of the other so-called French speakers speak rather lousy French. Nevertheless, there will be no role for Creole until the elite allows for it which they will not do willingly. It is in their interest to cut off the 85% of the people who are unable to speak French in order to better control them.

There might be some idiots who spew the "Haitian-blacks-are-stupid-and-lazy-and-therefore-poor" arguments or misinformed people there who rant against giving the vote to the masses there because they are too uneducated or stupid to elect pro-American stooges but I suggest reading "Damming the Flood: Haiti, Aristide, and the Politics of Containment" by Peter Hallward or "An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President" by Randall Robinson to get an idea about what lies behind Haiti's impoverishment.

I would also suggest listening to e: [url]http://web.mit.edu/webcast/tac/pugw...22feb02-16k.ram[/url]

which is a talk by Noam Chomsky and Paul Farmer (who actually lives in Haiti) in 2002. It was clear even then that Aristide was going to be overthrown by the U.S and their minions in Haiti. Indeed, he was swept up by the U.S. military and, against his will, whisked off to the Central African Republic in February, 2004. He now resides in South Africa.


Sorry if I have digressed from discussing the usual topics of Haitian pussy and the great availability thereof but I had to get this off my chest. One thing is screwing the girls, another thing is when another powerful country screws a weaker one, especially for a period of over 200 years..[/QUOTE]

Great job on the website!

[url]http://www.haitihouse.com/[/url]

Good job on the pictures. Thanks to CL for the pictures of the Haiti House setting from the roof and your report. I've tried to locate it on Google Earth but no luck finding it.

There are a few other travel resources on Haiti including Lonely Planet.

For a price comparison, the major hotels are all over $100/night without any of BadBears expertise or amenities and are probably not even guest friendly.

When you are visiting the Haiti House, it is very important to know the address for immigration. Please contact me for this info.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Great job on the website!

[url]http://www.haitihouse.com/[/url]

Good job on the pictures. Thanks to CL for the pictures of the Haiti House setting from the roof and your report. I've tried to locate it on Google Earth but no luck finding it.

There are a few other travel resources on Haiti including Lonely Planet.

For a price comparison, the major hotels are all over $100/night without any of BadBears expertise or amenities and are probably not even guest friendly.[/QUOTE]
What happened to the website? Is it down? Will it come back up?

because if some tight assed haitians that have gone to the u.s. and gotten americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think haiti is at this time. the house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.


[quote=indi therapist]what happened to the website? is it down? will it come back up?[/quote]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Because if some tight assed Haitians that have gone to the USA And gotten Americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think Haiti is at this time. The house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.[/QUOTE]can't pm at this time just let me know when the site is back up or send me an [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thank you

IT

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[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Because if some tight assed Haitians that have gone to the U.S. and gotten Americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think Haiti is at this time. The house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.[/QUOTE]BadBear,

I tried to PM you, I can't. I need to share some important info with you.

Even though the haitihouse website is not up, you can now reach me through my email there at info

Gentlemen, We try to make your stay at the Haiti House as eventful and as comfortable as possible. I just had a guest that was a vegetarian. I was unaware of it until after he was here and his stay was only for 3 days. I do not care what your eating habits are whether they are due to religious, health, or just plane taste choices, it is not your problem. This is my problem. Please let me know if you have any issues with certain foods and advise me before arriving what you do eat. I apologize for this problem with our guest even though we were trying to fill his tummy, I was not happy with us.

Hey BadBear. Any action lately at the HH? I will be there soon and need some incentive to make it thru this last week of work before I arrive.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Gentlemen, We try to make your stay at the Haiti House as eventful and as comfortable as possible. I just had a guest that was a vegetarian. I was unaware of it until after he was here and his stay was only for 3 days. I do not care what your eating habits are whether they are due to religious, health, or just plane taste choices, it is not your problem. This is my problem. Please let me know if you have any issues with certain foods and advise me before arriving what you do eat. I apologize for this problem with our guest even though we were trying to fill his tummy, I was not happy with us.[/QUOTE]

There were picks taken Saturday night that would blow your mind. We started to post them but just to give you an idea, there was over 12 hot babes in the pool getting drunk and naked. When you get here, you are going to go crazy and ask yourself why you didn't come before and then you will start trying to figure how many trips you can make during the next year. This place is guaranteed satisfaction unless you were castrated.




[QUOTE=Thelmas Gone]Hey BadBear. Any action lately at the HH? I will be there soon and need some incentive to make it thru this last week of work before I arrive.[/QUOTE]

There are many guys planning to come in the near future. There are some early birds that are already looking at a return visit. I really cannot imagine why. I mean after all there is danger lurking at every corner. Oooooops, I meant NOOKIE at every corner. I just had a gentlemen here for 4 days. I did not know whether he was enjoying himself after the first day so I asked him. His words were that he gotten laid more in the last 24 hours than he had in the last 3 months. We will have a turkey dinner on Thanksgiving. There will also be some hot chicks. Guys are starting to plan on Christmas, New Years, Carnival in Feb. Don't be too late and wind up holding your willy during those times. If you are a family guy, I understand.

I keep getting the same questions.
Q--If I am fat, can I still get a pretty Haitian girl A--YES
Q--Even though I am old and ugly can I still get a pretty Haitian girl A--Look at me I am 62, overweight, and ugly YES
Q--If I decide I want to live in Haiti can I get a pretty Haitian girl as a real live wife A--YES
Q--I see only spinners on your site, are there other shapes and sizes A--All sizes and shapes
Q--What are your rates and what do I get for the fee A--Contact me by PM here at ISG and I will give you all the info.

Even though this board has been dead for a few days, believe me the Haiti House is up and running. The visiting guys just don't have time for posting because they are too busy. One just called his buddy because he suddenly had more than he could handle and he needed help.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.

No actually he had two girls and a third showed up but because of house rules due to security and house supply abuse, he followed the rules and passed the new babe on to his buddy who was about to go trolling



[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]More than he could handle. More than 3?[/QUOTE]

Most guys that take pics here are about as professional as I am with a camera. These girls are hot and you can find them anywhere from a 1 to a 10


[QUOTE=PlanetHouston]On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]No actually he had two girls and a third showed up but because of house rules due to security and house supply abuse, he followed the rules and passed the new babe on to his buddy who was about to go trolling[/QUOTE]What are the house rules?

[QUOTE=PlanetHouston]On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.[/QUOTE]As in every country you'll find extremely hot, hot and not so hot women. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. One of the best things here is if they fall in the not so hot in the face category their bodies are still toned nicely from all the walking. Planet, go on out there and find you a few that have faces that match those shapely bodies. You will find at least 4 or 5 a day in an hour span that you will want to take back with you for good and the rest you won't mind letting them ride. I've met a handful of these girls in real life and the pictures of most don't do them any justice. I. E. AAypappis virgin. She was a stone cold stunner, body to kill for and angel face but her pic here in no way did her justice. A few others as well. There only downside is most don't have money to style their hair so you will see a lot of wigs. AAypapi I repeat again.--give me your virgin!

Since the jacuzzi room was not taken last night, I took advantage and took #5 for a spin in it. We drank wine that Ayyyypapi had left her and I must say I am not a wine drinker but that shit was great. After a little frolicking in the jacuzzi I learned that my special purpose was definitely not dead. Needless to say, #5 is walking kinda funny today. I thought I was in Heaven or maybe I know I am in Heaven

BadBear2000

Is it possible to stay at Haiti House? or at some other place you may recommend?

I am planning a trip to Port-au-Prince sometime in feb2010

thanks

Tavares

[QUOTE=Sawassdee]As in every country you'll find extremely hot, hot and not so hot women. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. One of the best things here is if they fall in the not so hot in the face category their bodies are still toned nicely from all the walking. Planet, go on out there and find you a few that have faces that match those shapely bodies. You will find at least 4 or 5 a day in an hour span that you will want to take back with you for good and the rest you won't mind letting them ride. I've met a handful of these girls in real life and the pictures of most don't do them any justice. I. E. AAypappis virgin. She was a stone cold stunner, body to kill for and angel face but her pic here in no way did her justice. A few others as well. There only downside is most don't have money to style their hair so you will see a lot of wigs. AAypapi I repeat again.--give me your virgin![/QUOTE]
You are so very right. I too had a great time there and I simply adore Haitian women. As for Ayyyypapi's virgin, well, I am not so sure she was a virgin after all. Before I had her, she told me that she wasn't after I had flat asked her about it. In any case, she certainly isn't one now!! ha, ha, ha!
In any case, you are my hero when it comes to dealing with the ladies, even when you don't know their lingo.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]You are so very right. I too had a great time there and I simply adore Haitian women. As for Ayyyypapi's virgin, well, I am not so sure she was a virgin after all. Before I had her, she told me that she wasn't after I had flat asked her about it. In any case, she certainly isn't one now!! ha, ha, ha!

In any case, you are my hero when it comes to dealing with the ladies, even when you don't know their lingo.[/QUOTE]Cunning linguist, i couldnt sleep after reading this last nite. lol.. I hope she was the one you spent the remainder of your time with, lucky devil. She was so hot in her bikinis and clothing, i can only imagine her walking around in my favorite outfit (skin). I would have traded 4 or 5 of my (new haitian friends) for 1 long day of fun with her. Please tell me you have pics of that body.?

If you like sweet chocolate with nookie that just does not get loose, you need to come to Haiti. Remember the girls that are tight for about the first 5 minutes and then you are afraid you may fall in. Well this will not happen here in Haiti. It seems to get tighter as you go. Maybe I am being a little to verbal but you have to come to Haiti to see for yourself.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]If you like sweet chocolate with nookie that just does not get loose, you need to come to Haiti. Remember the girls that are tight for about the first 5 minutes and then you are afraid you may fall in. Well this will not happen here in Haiti. It seems to get tighter as you go. Maybe I am being a little to verbal but you have to come to Haiti to see for yourself.[/QUOTE]In the DR, Haitian girls have the reputation of having "Cocomordan" which I think might be loosely translated as pussy control. What's the story from the homeland?

I don't know what you call it but they can definitely work that thang

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]In the DR, Haitian girls have the reputation of having "Cocomordan" which I think might be loosely translated as pussy control. What's the story from the homeland?[/QUOTE]

And all through the pool, not a girl was stirring-------------Wait, wrong story.

Was minutes before the pool party and the pool was empty when BadBear went trolling and returned with a car full. And in minutes, the pool was stocked and ready for fishing. Kinda like shooting fish in a barrel.

With the website currently down, would be curious to know the room rates and what is included within that rate for the Haiti House. Considering a late October five-night trip. A bit confused at the moment if its some kind of all-inclusive set-up or not.

Has the Crime rate decreased at all ?

Have always wanted to go but the crime reports held me back -- The fact that Im a pasty gringo wont help either.

[QUOTE=Adinga]Has the Crime rate decreased at all ?

Have always wanted to go but the crime reports held me back -- The fact that Im a pasty gringo wont help either.[/QUOTE]

I myself was quite worried about that but Badbear and co. will look out for you. Of course, you can't go lurking around in dark streets at night, along, with a lot of bling and an expensive video camera and a diamond-encrusted Rolex on (not many places where you can, to be sure). However, if you stick around them, there is no problem. Hell, I even went through infamous Cité Soleil a bit with Badbear and no problem. In fact, the people there even apologized for a truck stopping in front of us, picking up a mountain of garbage. Badbear and his friends know the score, they have the street smarts and Haiti House is quite safe in its own right.
Badbear will even pick you up at the airport. You can beat that. Even a pasty, relatively well-dressed pasty blanc like me "survived" the streets with Badbear. No problem.

The sight will be up again. The problem we had was we put videos on Utube and people jumped to our sight and we did not like what they were saying. We will be bringing it up again soon with a different name of course but believe me the Haiti House is still up and running.





[QUOTE=Salsero 2310]Hello Bad Bear, the site [url]www.haitihouse.com[/url] is not working.

Do you have a new site right now?

I am waiting for your new pics.[/QUOTE]

details and pricing
we are trying to keep the prices as low as possible. we have decided that it would be a pain in the ass to follow everyone around and their girl counting the number of beers and cokes they drink. we are figuring the following and hope we can survive with the price. free pick up and return to the airport or bus terminal, sunday barbarcue, which is great, a couple of 6 packs of beer, all the cokes you can drink, free breakfast, free late afternooon dinner, high speed internet with good magic jack operation, a provided net2phone with u.s. number, directv coming soon in each room, directv with
nfl ticket in the living room, in house laundry, and introduction to lots of hot babes. $130 per day. did i mention a pool full of nookie. i* just hope we can maintain this price. food in restaurants are very expensive and the service is slow. because of abuse we are now having to charge for breakfast and dinner for any girl you may have that eats here. breakfast will be $5 and dinner $10. we recommend snacks from the local market for night time since we have been forced to lock the kitchen down after dinner. i want furnish alcohol other than beer because people prefer different things. we do have a u.s number that any of you may use. these prices include a lot of extras that you wind up spending at a lot higher rate. even though expenses in haiti are high, the nookie is not.

however, i do want to make it very clear. we are not pimps. we do not charge you or make the girls give us a fee if you happen to get lucky. some of the girls we introduce are actually looking for a full time husband or a part time boy friend that will visit them often. i think ayyyypapi describes haiti as good as anyone can. it is just raw sex. no stops



[quote=getrhythm]with the website currently down, would be curious to know the room rates and what is included within that rate for the haiti house. considering a late october five-night trip. a bit confused at the moment if its some kind of all-inclusive set-up or not.[/quote]

Bad Bear,

Thanks, appreciate the info. Waiting to see if Spirit is going to offer any more of their $9 specials for the time frame of my birthday this month (10/23), then will probably pull the trigger on a trip. I'm a vet of four trips to the Dominican Republic, but this would be my first time in Haiti. Do you have a personal email you can be contacted at for reservations?

Thanks!

Trust me, I feel more secure roaming the streets of Petionville at night than I would in most major cities in the U.S. I just had a gentleman here from The DC area who went out walking and got back around 1:00AM. His only fear was he may get lost because he was rather intoxicated but he never feared the locals. IF security is the only thing keeping you from coming to Haiti, then pack your bags and come sample our sweet chocolate.

I recently visited the Haiti House, for a week end. Services and ambiance is as described. Homa made, and personal. I have experienced Haiti many times before and speak the language, but still was good to have this place. Might very well return, as I have to ensure that #5 tigth and firm ass cousin work some more for the dvd player she needs.

Gentlemen, if you are planning a November or December visit to the Haiti House, you better start making reservations. I have many inquiring but have not confirmed. We will have turkey on thanksgiving and I plan to have Santa put some nice candy in you stockings and your nuts in some nice hotties. We probably will not build snow men or have snow ball fights. Just throw a few hot babes in the pool.

Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks Larry







[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Gentlemen, if you are planning a November or December visit to the Haiti House, you better start making reservations. I have many inquiring but have not confirmed. We will have turkey on thanksgiving and I plan to have Santa put some nice candy in you stockings and your nuts in some nice hotties. We probably will not build snow men or have snow ball fights. Just throw a few hot babes in the pool.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alew217]Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks Larry[/QUOTE]Larry,

There's 2 regular airlines that goes to Santo Domingo on a daily basis.

Tortug Air and Carib Air.

Carib Air has a 30 seat plane and it's somewhat bigger than the one Tortug Air uses.

I am not expert on planes and I am not afraid of flying, but I always feel safer in that Carib Air bigger plane.

If you need more info let me know

I just returned today from the DR where I carried my 5th wife off to start school. I am going to miss that babe at least until she comes home in December or decides she loves MR HAPPY too much to stay away.

The bus ride is long but for the first time it will be interesting. There are 3 airlines. Ayyyypapi has flown Tortug many times and seems pleased with it. One of his hot Dominican friends followed him and his other hottie on the other airline Caribeair.
There is also PA WA which flies M-W-F

The one way flight is $125 while the one way bus is $70

Just a word of advice. I just had a guy come was going to spend a few days here and then go to the DR. He had purchased his ticket that way. He decided to hang here up until the last chance he had to catch his flight out of the DR.

As I was getting into the DR I noticed the girls. They are not the same as the babes I remember back in the 80s and 90s. They are fat. Very few are hotties like they use to be. It made me feel sick. Today when I came back to Haiti and I saw hottie after hottie I was glad to be home


[QUOTE=Alew217]Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks Larry[/QUOTE]

I have been reading an lurking on the site for a while and thanks to bb's pictures an reports. I want to make a trip haiti, but is it possible to find girls who shave there pits? I don't mind the bush but arm pit hair bothers me, or is this an unheard of for the women there?

My little dancer has her armpits shaved and she trims her pussy just the way I like it. Some guys here keep razors handy for just that. Many of them like to shave the girls pussys too but I like a little bush down there. I don't want to feel like I am screwing a little girl.


[QUOTE=WickedRebel]I have been reading an lurking on the site for a while and thanks to bb's pictures an reports. I want to make a trip haiti, but is it possible to find girls who shave there pits? I don't mind the bush but arm pit hair bothers me, or is this an unheard of for the women there?[/QUOTE]

I suggest you get complete flight information from the D.R. to PAP and post it. For example, are all flights to and from Santo Domingo? Probably a lot of guys would want to hedge their bets...

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]My little dancer has her armpits shaved and she trims her pussy just the way I like it. Some guys here keep razors handy for just that. Many of them like to shave the girls pussys too but I like a little bush down there. I don't want to feel like I am screwing a little girl.[/QUOTE]bb2k thanks for the reply but do they get offended if you ask them to? i love the dark skinned girls i have dated several in the states but i don't know what the customs are there.

No, they don't get offended. Most of them will even let you do it. My friend SJ better known as SUPER JEW takes his buzzer around with him all the time just in case. Haitian girls are not easily offended. I am telling you, they are the greatest women in the world and just to the let the mongers know that are lining up in the DR to get my little dancer, she is cumming home tomorrow. She decided it is better to go to school her and have MR HAPPY every night than to go to school in DR and sleep alone at night. I guess that is hopeful thinking but makes me feel good to think that way.


[QUOTE=WickedRebel]bb2k thanks for the reply but do they get offended if you ask them to? i love the dark skinned girls i have dated several in the states but i don't know what the customs are there.[/QUOTE]

Beg him to post some of the hot videos he took at out pool parties where the hotties are shaking their booties to no end. He can post them on utube and give you the link.

Just got this email from a guy thought it would be good for you to hear. Most American married couples prefer doggie style. This is where the man begs and woman rolls over and plays dead. Come to Haiti where you don't have to beg and you may be the one that rolls over a plays dead after several hours.

I usually don't post on the boards except to answer questions that could help other members of the board, to help them in their Hobbying interrogations.

However alway's thaught that Bad Bear was kinda preaching for his business by stating that you could find a pussy as fast as a wink.

Well arrived in Port au Prince at 3h15, local time. By the time I got out of the Custom at the Airport 3h45. Downtown Port au Prince 4h15, found my dream girl 4h30, invitation to dinner and? 4h32. I GUESS Bad Bear was right...

More to follow during the next week.

Hi guys,

Haiti seems to be nice destination for sure.

But I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

Now from my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies at all?

Cheers,

Boys Noise

Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

Yet I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

From my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys Noise

Ask Horny B about the 2 babes with Ayyyypapi


[QUOTE=Horny B]I usually don't post on the boards except to answer questions that could help other members of the board, to help them in their Hobbying interrogations.

However alway's thaught that Bad Bear was kinda preaching for his business by stating that you could find a pussy as fast as a wink.

Well arrived in Port au Prince at 3h15, local time. By the time I got out of the Custom at the Airport 3h45. Downtown Port au Prince 4h15, found my dream girl 4h30, invitation to dinner and? 4h32. I GUESS Bad Bear was right...

More to follow during the next week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boys Noise]Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

Yet I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

From my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys Noise[/QUOTE]

Of course, I am at an advantage here since I speak OK Thai and quite passable Creole. Normally they speak no English. I never had problems but Sawasdee, a gentleman who came to Haiti House spoke no languages at all but he did fine since he was good at everything else (knowing how to make the moves, etc.) Actually, if there are language problems, there are people there who will help you out. Sawasdee had an interesting method. He got his laptop, typed in a sentence in Google translate and had it translated into French. The girl's answer was typed in and duly translated into English. Of course, it is always best to have some command of the languaage spoken in the country you are visiting but few can actually do that.
In the end, Sawasdee got more action than me in spite of my language abilities. No, I am not that bad-looking and I have a fun and engaging personality I think but I am more shy than I should be.

Arrived in Haïti, I was a little bit anxious to go trough Custom as I was bringing a DVD for Bad Bear. The Custom officer was so busy cruising a co-worker, that he just took my declaration sheet and put in on top of the pile not even bothering to tell me to go trough.

Bad Bear was waiting for me outside the Airport entrance, wasn't bothered much by the Taxi scout. As I speak decent french, told the Taxi scout that I had someone waiting for me outside. She wouldn't let go until she was sure that I wasn't B. S. Her, following me until I saw Bad Bear and shook hand with him. The advantage was that no other taxi-cab drivers bothered me event thought there was about 50 of them waiting to pick up customers.

Was a pleasure to finally meet the big guy. He wasn't too hard to spot, first by height and and Bad Bear baseball cap. I jumped in his Pussy Mobile, and wasn't ready for what was to follow.

Was kind of down about immediately going pussy hunting. Travel time, and the need for a good meal was more at the top of my list. But Bad Bear was adamant on showing me the lower and the the Upper pussy market. Couldn't believe what was there, I think that a kid on X-mas morning couldn't be more excited than I was, but then again wasn't ready to accept the proclaimed stop and go with a girl as stated in posting on this, board. I had given to BB the description of what the type of girl that I like.

He has a gift on spotting them way ahead faster then I could do it. Within less than 5 minutes he had spotted a first one that fitted the profile. But unfortunately we couldn't stop due to traffic. Was a bit deceived, but when you think that you have seen the best possible girls comes another one that even look better. Within a couple of minutes he already had spotted another one, looking even better than the first one. For me it was the moment of truth. Was he boasting all the way in his posting, in order to draw customers to his business? We stopped and after talking to the girls less then a minute, she was in the Pussy mobile. Had to pinch myself to make sure that I wasn't dreaming. I was completely zone out that such a body could be seating with us. Good thing that she was seated in the back cause my male hormones level were increasing by the seconds. Few minutes later we were at the Residence, eating a good meal.

Another guest proposed to do a Water basket ball, game. That opened a door to check if the bikini trick was working? (This trick posted on this board in a previous post) It stated that by offering a bikini to a girl, it made the adaptation a bit easier for the girl. Well, asked her if she wanted to go for a swim in the pool, she agreed and already she was stripping naked in front of me to get into her a bikini graciously lended to her by a girl who was at the residence.

We really had a good time, and the girls also seemed to enjoy rubbing against the male... Was hard to concentrate with 4 beautiful woman in the pool, even to the point that I accidentally passed the ball to the girls on the other team. Well shit happen. Then it was time for my desert that I didn't take at supper. We started with a shower, then in the bed for additional exercise. I am not the type to give play by play description but can tell you that those Haitian girls know how to move their hip.

Being an older gentleman, enjoying time with those younger chicks, bring me 30 years back. Well I always say about my hobby, if I die from a heart attack while practicing it. I will die with a huge smile of satisfaction on my face.

For those who are wandering what was the final cost. She didn't had a cell phone, so Bad Bear brought us to the local Cell phone store. Bought her cell of my choice, which cost me 1, 800.00 Gourdes, which is about $35.00 US. Other advantage is that I know how to reach her. After we brought her back to her place and seemed quite happy with her evening. She made sure to ask that I call her later, during my stay.

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Yeah thx Cunning Linguist, thats what I thought. I know that its not a deal breaker for getting action, but still think its less fun. Thats why my next trip in november is probably gonna be ghana eventhough I d have loved to visit Haiti. The girls seem to be gorgous.

[QUOTE=Boys Noise]Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

Yet I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

From my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys Noise[/QUOTE]I don't know if you read my report but I shared that same dicatome in the beginning of my plans. I realised in my report there was a discrepancy after I posted it. The discrepancy was the cost of flying to ghana, it was not 1500 but 2500 us. I implore you to try haiti on for size. I speak no french or creo as cunning liguist stated, only english and broken spanish (and I do mean broken). You will save literally thousands of dollars by going to haiti and get laid ridiculously without any knowledge skills. If you want to sight see africa wins hands down but for fun with light to extremely darkskinned girls only haiti witout a doubt. I love to hear them moan and speak french while in the throws of passions. Youll see honestly that you don't have to pay 90 + percent of the girls there. You will truly do it just to get rid of them, once you pleasure them they never want to go home. Imagine that, you have to hideout, threaten them with a gun (they may take the beating and stay) or pay them to leave you penis alone. Honestly and I am not the most handsome guy. Get laid from day one and every day while partying with great guys like Badbear, Aaypapi and other fellow mongers from this site. Good luck with your decision.

[QUOTE=Boys Noise]Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys Noise[/QUOTE]Haiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.

I would add that many Haitians (those who did not receive further schooling) only know basic French.

Also that you are a bit hard on Kreyol which is a language in its own right and not a dialect of French although the vocubulary is 95% derived from French. The grammar is part French and part West African.

That may sound a petty quibble, but for centuries the denigration of the Kreyol langauge (by calling it corrupted French) has been an important factor in suppressing the general population and keeping power and wealth in the hands of a tiny French-speaking minority.


[QUOTE=Elmerfud]Haiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.[/QUOTE]

I have a 76 year old friend that has been in Haiti many years and he does not speak a word of Kreole or French and he gets more nookie than you can shake a stick at.


[QUOTE=Sawassdee]I don't know if you read my report but I shared that same dicatome in the beginning of my plans. I realised in my report there was a discrepancy after I posted it. The discrepancy was the cost of flying to ghana, it was not 1500 but 2500 us. I implore you to try haiti on for size. I speak no french or creo as cunning liguist stated, only english and broken spanish (and I do mean broken). You will save literally thousands of dollars by going to haiti and get laid ridiculously without any knowledge skills. If you want to sight see africa wins hands down but for fun with light to extremely darkskinned girls only haiti witout a doubt. I love to hear them moan and speak french while in the throws of passions. Youll see honestly that you don't have to pay 90 + percent of the girls there. You will truly do it just to get rid of them, once you pleasure them they never want to go home. Imagine that, you have to hideout, threaten them with a gun (they may take the beating and stay) or pay them to leave you penis alone. Honestly and I am not the most handsome guy. Get laid from day one and every day while partying with great guys like Badbear, Aaypapi and other fellow mongers from this site. Good luck with your decision.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elmerfud]Haiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.[/QUOTE]
I would respectfully request that Mr. Fud look into things that he knows little about.
First of all, Haiti is not a French-speaking nation in the same way France and Quebec are. Some statistics say that only 15% of Haiti actually speak French. However, the elite only uses French in its business. This has always been the case and has been used to disenfranchise the rest of the population. Charles Pooter is spot on in his comment on the matter. Many understand basic French, at least enough to watch soap operas but cannot express themselves in it. There are some who are working to get Creole to be a normalized, standardized language so that the great majority of Haitians will have access to government.

Secondly, Creole is not a broken French. Mr. Fud should google "creole languages " if he is so inclined to know what they exactly are. The process is far more complex than just mangling a language up

Although 95% of the vocabulary is derived from French, the grammar is wholly different. In many ways, it is quite similar in structure to languages spoken in West Africa. The French do not understand Creole in the way that Spanish speakers can understand Portuguese or Italian or that Swedes can understand Danish and Norwegian. Many Haitians, the vast majority, do not understand French very well and certainly can't speak it.

An example of French and Creole:

Mwen genyen dè chwal
J'ai deux chevaux
I see two horses

Mwen vwe ou achte liv yo
Je vois les livres que vous avez acheté
I see the books that you have bought

I won't go into a detailed linguistic analysis but suffice it to say that they are birds of a very different feather. I respectfully invite Mr. Fud to look into this before he spouts off groundless, uninformed opinions.

In any case, the girls do appreciate it if you can at least say some things in Creole. It shows that you have respect for their often denigrated culture. You can check into my posts where I have posted some words and phrases in Creole.
Peace.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]There is also PA WA which flies M-W-F[/QUOTE]PAWA goes to the main airport SDQ (Las Americas)

Tortug Air and Caribair goes to La Isabela airport which is closer to the city than SDQ.

As some of you may know, Bad Bear wife #5 is a dancer and choreographer
( not the other kind dirty minds) I order to keep Bad Bear young, she has convinced him to start doing some dance move. I must admit that I couldn't
take more than the following short clip that follow. Anyway he has to begin somewhere, and his natural instinct drove him to pole dance. His style should improve with time.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvR1dsemBLM[/url]

Bad Bear, sorry for letting this one out, but I couln't resist.

You really took my bad side and I didn't even have my cap on.

[QUOTE=Horny B]As some of you may know, Bad Bear wife #5 is a dancer and choreographer
( not the other kind dirty minds) I order to keep Bad Bear young, she has convinced him to start doing some dance move. I must admit that I couldn't
take more than the following short clip that follow. Anyway he has to begin somewhere, and his natural instinct drove him to pole dance. His style should improve with time.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvR1dsemBLM[/url]

Bad Bear, sorry for letting this one out, but I couln't resist.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately all good things must come to an end. It was with some regrets that I was leaving Bad Bear place on Wednesday afternoon. Here are my afterthought looking back on my trip to Haiti.

About 3 times I went for a walk on the main street which is about 100 yards from Bad Bear place. These were in the afternoon, did I felt intimidated ? Not a single time, the only awkward thing for me was the fact it was now me that was a visible minority. ( No racism intended here) I have seen only one white person during those walk and honestly I didn't felt like exchanging with him. Although I lurked at the side streets, I avoided them as common sense told me not to run after problems. Why did I didn't felt threatened, first as stated I stayed on the main street at all times, for about over an hour each times that I was taking my walk. As I had travelled that street with Bad Bear, I knew the places were there was armed guards, they are everywhere, in Bank parking, Grocery store parking but frankly I shouldn't even raise that issue, as it would had been a real last resort move that didn't even came near of happening. Above that you see on a regular interval either the U.N. Trucks or local police patrolling and the one who are doing traffic. This is a main street and is heavily used, not much traffic lights, so they replaced them by traffic cops.

If you use common sense I don't see anything happening to you. I was bothered only one time by a teenager, just ignored him, continued my walk with no problem. Those who have visited Sosua in the Dominican Republic, will tell you that if you take a walk, somebody, will bother you every 100 yards, to sell you their junk, for dollar exchange, offer you to bring you to your destination by motoconcho, sell you drug or ladies offering your a massage. I wasn't bothered by none of the above.

Little tip: During my early Sunday walk, I was able to get my hand on cheap Creole book, sold on the side of the street, these must have been previously used to teach to the kids in school. I really had a good time later that day with two of the girls as they love it that you try to learn their language, I had them around me helping me make translation of the words that were in the book. Ended up finishing my homework that night with one of the two. Who said that doing homeworks couldn't be fun -:)

As for picking up Ladies, I have made it clear in my previous post on how easy it was, but what I didn't knew then were the well attended Sunday afternoon, Bad Bear BBQ. Also had the pleasure of meeting really cute and nice local girls there. Even have talk with a couple of them who had a very good English, have taken some phone numbers, unfortunately couldn't call back all of them due to my tight schedule, but I still have their phone number available for a future trip.

For those who have a cell phone with SIM card, I would recommend that you go buy a local one at the local cell phone store. It will cost you less than $10.00 and consider it as a good investment. I am not bragging here when I say that some evening while being with a girl I had to shut my phone, in order to avoid being bothered. For the others you can buy a cheap local cell phone for about $35.00 Reception was never a problem as there is a Cell phone tower just on the other side of the street of Big Bear place.

What I missed not doing, was renting a 4 W.D. Vehicule, either for cruising or going to the beach, I wouldn't drive in the Dominican Republic, but would take my chances in Haiti, avoiding the high traffic times of the day. I stated cruising not that I absolutely needed a vehicle to do so, as Bad Bear had often stated to me that if I wanted to go for a pussy ride, he was available at any times. But taking care of such a place take some of his time and I also wanted to make sure that he also had his happy time with his wife # 5. So for the rental will be for another trip.

The personal was attentive to my needs, as I had eaten early one morning, and until dinner time come later that day, Bad Bear who had errands to do, instructed the afternoon cook to check with me if I was hungry? So there is a knock at the door, and the Cook who's trying her best to learn her English ask me “ Are you Ugly? To which I swiftly replied, Yes Sweetheart I'm butt Ugly, but I still like myselve” The poor Girl didn't knew were to go from there, but having understood the meaning of her request, I told her that I could wait until dinner and thanked her for taking the time to check.

Overall, nothing being perfect I would easily give an 8+ for satisfaction, regarding that trip and for my stay at Big Bear place. And yes, for sure I'm looking forward to go back sometimes next year.

Well, I booked my flight to BadBear's place for mid-December. Will be my first trip to Haiti. Really looking forward to it!

And they call it Haiti. Guys if you love sweet chocolate and you come to Haiti, you will swear you have gone to Heaven. I have a video of my honey taking a shower. Send me a PM with your email address or if you have been able to pick up my email on my earlier posts, just title is Video Request. I cannot post this on utube, mytube, or any other tube but I can send it direct.

The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.


[QUOTE=BadBear2000]And they call it Haiti. Guys if you love sweet chocolate and you come to Haiti, you will swear you have gone to Heaven. I have a video of my honey taking a shower. Send me a PM with your email address or if you have been able to pick up my email on my earlier posts, just title is Video Request. I cannot post this on utube, mytube, or any other tube but I can send it direct.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.[/QUOTE]Just downloaded the video. Very nice BadBear! Looking forward to coming down soon.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with ProAm. Very nice video BigBear. Thanks for taking the time to share it! Can't wait to get over there!

Anyone know any good websites or forums (besides this one) that specialize in pics/videos of Haitian Women or that touch on mongering in Haiti?

How to get to/from Puerto Plata to Port Au Prince?

Easy and safe?

Our website will be back up soon. We may have to put a small charge on it just to keep the do-righters off.

[QUOTE=Blue Vette]Anyone know any good websites or forums (besides this one) that specialize in pics/videos of Haitian Women or that touch on mongering in Haiti?[/QUOTE]

You can take a bus from Puerto Plata to Santo Domingo. If you decide to stay at Boca Chica one night, you can fly pawa air out of the main airport on M-W-F around 5PM to Haiti. If you go on in to the Capital, you can catch a dailey flight to Haiti on Tortug air around 8AM or 4PM dailey or Caribeair. This will cost about $125. You can also catch 3 different buslines from SD which are Capital Bus Lines, Caribetour, and Tera Busline. Caribetour and Tera come strainght to Petionville and is only 5 minutes from the Haiti House. This trip will take about 6 hours and for a new comer will be interesting. Just bring a book or sleep on the way as the buses are comfortable.


[QUOTE=Mr Well]How to get to/from Puerto Plata to Port Au Prince?

Easy and safe?[/QUOTE]

Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.

N[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Our website will be back up soon. We may have to put a small charge on it just to keep the do-righters off.[/QUOTE]ladYlad to hear it.

Happy to pay a small charge for such a site.

You are correct. Thank you. Most our people have been flying Tortug Air


[QUOTE=Sanchi Panki]Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanchi Panki]Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.[/QUOTE]

Big Bear was using the English pronouciation, but effectively the Airline being French their trade name is Caraïbe Air.

Checked the price between the 2 Airlines and for Air Caraïbe the cost of their
roundtrip ticket is between $302.00 and $330.00, while Tortug Air prices seems to be lower at $240.00, quite a difference in price.

I think fly from SD to PAP it's absolutely far to be bargain, price is too high for a so short trip, yes it's the most confortable, easy and fast solution but in my opinion the prices are usually exagerated, amybe you can find better price taking the ticket on the place at Las Americas paying in Rd$ can be cheaper. However flying Miami-Pap is usually cheaper.

It is the tax on both sides that make it ridiculous. That is why I always take the bus. You lose time but the trip is interesting and the bus is comfortable


[QUOTE=Sanchi Panki]I think fly from SD to PAP it's absolutely far to be bargain, price is too high for a so short trip, yes it's the most confortable, easy and fast solution but in my opinion the prices are usually exagerated, amybe you can find better price taking the ticket on the place at Las Americas paying in Rd$ can be cheaper. However flying Miami-Pap is usually cheaper.[/QUOTE]

Hi BadBear2000,

You certainly seem to be having fun down there. I am going to be in Miami and would like to visit and stay with you guys. How is the 2nd. 9th June? I know it is a long way off, but I like to be prepared. Which airline would you recommend I fly down with from Miami?

The way the house is starting to fill up with future visitors, you should stake your place as soon as possible. Join the spirit airline $9 club and you may get a super deal. If not your best bet is probably American. Just let me know


[QUOTE=Freddy Scuttle]Hi BadBear2000,

You certainly seem to be having fun down there. I am going to be in Miami and would like to visit and stay with you guys. How is the 2nd. 9th June? I know it is a long way off, but I like to be prepared. Which airline would you recommend I fly down with from Miami?[/QUOTE]

FYI:

I just checked and Delta is flying JFK to PAP direct for $380 roundtrip WITH all taxes included. Not bad at all.....

Spirit was over $400 and the flight schedule was nowhere near as good. American Airlines for the same dates was close to $500....

Hi BadBear2000,

Flights booked and visit confirmed - $354 with AA is not bad. Arriving on 2nd June 2010 and leaving on the 9th. Looking forward to meeting you guys, let me know if I need to do anythiing else for you.

To reach Haiti I flew to SD, overnight, and took the bus from Caribe Tours to Port Au Prince. The bus leaves most days at 11 ampaid $ 75 return. You can buy tickets before the actual leaving date. You also need to pay $26 plus 1000 pesos the day of departure and show your passport, even though I managed to do without. When you return from PAP you pay 28$ plus some Gourdes. Left SD and took me 9 hours to reach PAP because of some accidents and heavy traffic in Haiti. At the border they will stamp your passport at both ends and check your luggage at the haitian border. We had to go back to the haitian office because the guys stamped 28 of September instead of 28 of October. Can you believe it? There are some children beggars various vendors and money changers. You can change in PAP but if you are stuck you can use the money changers, just look out for the guys with a photo ID they seem to be authorized. Bring a calculator with you, I changed on the way back anf I figured the guy made an honest commission, in other words I was not ripped off.

Be prepared for a culture shock when you drive into PAP

To be continued.

There are thousands of people swarming the streets, there are vendors everywhere selling everything, the diesel engines blacken the air and pollution is heavy. Street lights are lacking, roads are in a bad state and buildings are lookin sorry and dilapidated. Drivers are left to their own devices, they make the rules even though I noticed police on patrol.

Well, a late as I was BadBear was waiting for me, 3 hours of waiting. What a relief jumping in his car and driving off! He took me to his house in a quiet and safe area of Petionville which is the upscale spot of PAP. I met his staff, his wife, and her female guests. After dinner we went 'trollin' haitian word for prowling the street looking for women. We met Fabiola who flagged us down. I wasn; t sure she was a pro but I took her anyway. The girl was OK but after a while I got tired of her and sent her home. I gave her $15 after she asked me for $100 and off she went.

The following day we changed money and bought some food, the clerk gave me 4175 gourdes for $100.

Same night trollin again and ended up picking another pro because I liked her a lot. She was looking young fresh with a nice dress on. In the sack she was a bit inexperienced so after a while I got bored and sent her home with 1000 gourdes plus moto money 25 gourdes.

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Next day I spent time in a brand new gym, shopping for food, watchin direct tv and the same night BB took me to a night spot together with his wife and friends. On the way back home the wife says we want to come trollin too. So I, BB and 3 girls in the back stopped by some girls and they picked a nice petite girl and asked her if she wants to come home with me. I didn; t know where to put my face. So eventually I took this girl and she was hot and makin sexy sounds in creole. You know when they enjoy I enjoy it. Then after a while she started complaining I was taking too long so I sent her home 1000 gourdes plus moto money 30 gourdes.

Following day daytime trollin. Bad Bear spots a cutie walking up a street so he gives chase with the car, stops right in the middle of the road and, among 300 people around us, calls up this girl in creole, she stops and come over and BB ask where 'y' goin-well, I am goin home-home where-down the street-can I take you?. Yes thank you- there she hops in the car!

An adorable looking young girl. She gave us the cell number and promise to come over to HH for the barbecue. Her name is Taina. The same night hunting there is this small girl, Misha, lookin for business: she has a tight body, a megawatt smile and tries to charge me $50. We start laughing and she laugh too. I like her a lot so I take her. This girl fits me just right, no rush, clean, lean like a gazelle and she's really into it. It has been a long time I have done an unshaven girl but I didn; t bother me one bit. So far they were all unshaven-armpits, pussies and legs-

Raw and back to nature.

Well I have a good time with Misha she leaves in the middle of the night with 1600 gourdes. I could have paid less but I didn't want to.

To be continued

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It is Sunday and barbecue day so BB is busy buying supplies. Taina comes with Fedora who is just as hot as her, we eat and drink and those two girls are looking for boyfriends but I don't have time so they say when I come back I can have both of them. I did not ask if together or one after another. Anyway just to tell you that those non pro girls dig guys like us.

The same night I am without date so BB fires the engine and off we go. We see 2 girls strollin and BB ask me not to talk about money. He was right. Those girls just have nothing to do so they jump in the car and off to the house, we have drinks and start chatting. The girls speak decent english and ask how they can go back home. I answer you don't have to, you can sleep here and leave in the morning. I did not expect them to stay. I show them the room and they start watching Tv and getting comfortable. Meanwhile I take a shower and when I come back the girls are in bed but not naked. I focus on the one who gives the best vibes, Beatrice and leave the other Cassandra. After 30 minutes of fun courtshio finally Beatrice gives it up. Cassandra meanwhile pretend to sleep on the other side of the bed. I find that erotic what to do you have to enjoy the small things.

This is the only time I had TLC in haiti. Beatrice was warm affectionate and passionate. They asked me for moto money so I gave them 1000 gourdes but I could have given them 200 and it would not have mattered.

And so my 5 days in Haiti came to an end.

When you come to haiti you'll definitely monger like no other place because BB will do things you'll be amazed at. I could have bargained hard with the girls and spend over all not more than $60 but I did not have the heart.

Plan on spending more than a week so you will enjoy more time with non pro girls. Bring a camera, the haitian love pictures and videos!

Bring a sense of adventure.

PAP is not a dangerous pace if you know how to move.

Stick with BB and you are guaranteed to have fun, he is more haitian than some local people and knows his territory intimately, let him show you the real haiti those people work hard and hustle and sweat and all we hear and see coming from haiti is just the bad news.

So, come to Haiti but not just for the girls!

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I want to wish all the best and all the luck to BB and his activity, it'a a great thing and a great job. I hope one day to can afford the expense to pass some days at HH.

Cheers

Hi
I have been "fucking around" in over 60 countries, but I think that the Haiti babes I have seen at the forum belongs to the absolute sexiest in the world !!
One thing that makes them so sexy is that they seem to be very natural and have a face a bit of natives, I hope i can visit Haiti at the end of next year.
Mongers keep going to Haiti !!!


Best Regards
Buttlover

Great stuff. Excellent reports and the hottest Youtube video I have ever seen. That girl is amazing.

Those rules seem perfectly reasonable BB.

I am counting down the days to my visit in December!

As you guys Know from my report I spent 14 days at the haiti house. I hope that this post will clear a few things up.

1. I posted that the price at the time I was there was way too low from my own observation of the physical operation and way below the service recieved. Now, if you stay for example 200 days you will pay $130 x 200 days = $$ 26, 000. The price set at my stay was $100 a day and $10-$20 less than that for any stay over a week depending on the room you desired. AND originally before my stay it was less than those figures and included food per the original post. Gentlemen BB2K had just opened this place and ran the figures unknowingly of the X cost. The girls hanging out!

Personally I love having the women non. Pros especially hanging out and down for whatever, but I witness all of them daily eating more than a small countrys worth of food 2-3 times per day and drinking (beer, coke, bottled water, whiskey, tequila)more than a couple of whales plus going home with it for their families. Running thru towels and causing more work ex. Laundry (bikinis, towels, bed sheets), cooking and shopping, Power (all night parties (w music, tv's and additional lighting) and Water bills (pool maitenence almost daily (open and extremely jumping every night), damages to items (always something damaged during a party.

I see two great guys and good friends having a strained relationship over the original and no longer acceptible cost which dosent cut it due to the x factor. Money frustrations really affect mens psyche as we all know. Hell it will make you impotent.

2. The Haiti house is a tropical set up and IMHO doesn't require screens. I had 0 problems with mosquitos. The mansion is as nice or even better than my apts in Rio and better than the hotels in Thailand.

3. Found only one brothel the one Ayyypapi mentioned, and no stay away from it, but hell who needed it once youve met some girls their. They will bug the hell out of you anyway. You will have more gfe experiences IMHO here than quickies so its a matter of hitting the troll daily for new stuff while juggling the old stuff and don't invite the old stuff to the pool parties (way more fun working the new stuff).

4. Cost of Girls is what you make it. Nil is a great figure for them. They play in a pool are provided bikinis, food, drink, tv, music all in the mansion and you take them on the town if you want to. You might give them 30 gourdes for the taxi home your choice. Only a small percentage- The semi and pros asked for money, the others asked for nothing and were content just being there. So you don't have to pay the majority of them. I personally like to kick these types of girls a little something to keep them on my whimsical schedule. If the night yeilds nothing I call one I want to see and say catch a taxi here now! And I know they have enough to get there and pleasure me. So its really up to you.

5. Any time you can get out on the town take it and see haiti. I met the most goregous girl of my stay while heading out with badbear to get info on his job contracts. And she spoke english.

This seperation is unfortunate for all of us. We enjoyed the dynamic duos work and it was the finest.

Overall BB2k Haiti house is a grand place to have a ball (or give a couple) while saving money on extra rich chocolate nookie. And I will be back! Ayyypapi is one hell of a great guy to monger with hope you have the experience and I look forward to catching up with him soon.

Have fun Travel and be well.

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If any of you make reservations at the Haiti House and after one night wants to go to a hotel, they are free to do so. I certainly would not want to try and hold anyone up by making them pay for something they do not like. I am betting that will never happen. I will pick you up at the airport. I will take you to any hotel of your choice. I will even take you to the airport at your time of departure at no charge. Since everyone that has come has been well pleased I do not find that a real gamble. Some have come with the intention of spending 1/2 their time here and the other 1/2 in the Dominican Republic but decided to stay until they just made it to the DR in time to catch their flight.

It is my job to make certain that all you mongers get the most nookie and enjoy yourself at the lowest possible price. Now i realize that some of you guys do not have to worry about money but there are some mongers that are not so fortunate.
Yes, I do drive the guys around if they ask. I have never charged any visitor. However, all my visitors pay a premium for their room and extras. I do offer a very pretty girl that speaks very good English to drive them around and take them to clubs at night. She will even take them trolling and talk to the girls for the mongers. She has been getting $20 US for this but if you want to know the true by the time she spends 3 or 4 hours, count the wear and tear on her car, and the gas she burns it is not enough but she never complains. This was the price that Ayyyypapi kinda created for her when he started using her services. I did just take 2 guys out to the beach this past Saturday and I charged them 1000 gourdes each. It was an hour and a half both ways. The 2000 gourdes covered the gas and we all agreed this could be a good over night stay. The local taxi would have charged at $100 US. You can rent a car if you want to take the chance of driving here. It will cost you over $100 a day and if you have an accident you may not be able to get on the plane back home without settling a court case. Ayyyypapi was going to drive my car one night but did not know how to drive a straight shift car. Now he will say the car was the reason but when my old girl friend's car was down, she drove them around in my car. She had no problems. And yes if you want to go to a gym there is a nice one near by and I will drive you. And yes if you want to go to a club I will take you without charging you. If I do not feel up to it again I will get my old girl friend to do it and believe me $20 is a lot less than the taxis will charge. Please feel free to ask me any questions you want. I will be posting a walk thru of house in the next few days. Also, if you want videos and pics of hotbabes, stay tuned to this site and Haiti House when it comes back up this next week.

We will be putting pics and walk thru videos of the Haiti House. There will also be many pics of hot babes and videos of them dancing around the pool. Some will be just hot babes and others will be pros. At the Haiti House we aim to please.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]We will be putting pics and walk thru videos of the Haiti House. There will also be many pics of hot babes and videos of them dancing around the pool. Some will be just hot babes and others will be pros. At the Haiti House we aim to please.[/QUOTE]BadBear,

I'm thinking of coming down Nov29-Dec2 (Sunday through Wed.)

Are these days of the week ok for trolling, disco, etc.

Based on what I read, I think it shouldn't be a problem.

We are planning a big dinner on Thanksgiving at the Haiti House. There will be hot babes, turkey with dressing, sweet potatoes, hot babes, pool party, beer, cokes, hot babes, rice & Beans, all kinds of veges, and did I mention Hot babes. If we do not have room, we will help you arrange a stay at a local hotel. We will charge $10 for the dinner unless you are a guest at the Haiti House. If you have a family, then spend it with them but if you don't come enjoy Thanksgiving the way it is meant to be enjoyed. With a hot babe under each arm.

Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?

I don't think so but I do not know for sure. I will try and find out today



[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?[/QUOTE]

We had 15 bikini clad babes blessing the pool today. Even though the water has been kinda chilly the last few days. Today they warmed it up. I will be posting pics tomorrow. that is if it is okay with all our members

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]We had 15 bikini clad babes blessing the pool today. Even though the water has been kinda chilly the last few days. Today they warmed it up. I will be posting pics tomorrow. that is if it is okay with all our members[/QUOTE]

OK with me!!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]We had 15 bikini clad babes blessing the pool today. Even though the water has been kinda chilly the last few days. Today they warmed it up. I will be posting pics tomorrow. that is if it is okay with all our members[/QUOTE]Bring 'em on!

I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners.




[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners. [/quote]was there sometime a couple of years ago, during the RAM show I picked a couple of young ladies, while they were dancing, that ended in my room. No problem at all. In any case be discreet and if someone looks at you weirdly just ask "sak pase".

As we all know, If you have not made reservations early for the holidays, you will be paying a high price for them. This is why I am giving a special for the entire month of December and until the 8th of Jan. The nightly rates will be $100 which will cover the following:

Pickup and delivery to the airport
breakfast and lunch
beer and cokes
pool party on Sundays
wireless internet
in house laundry
private baths in every bedroom
introduction to the following: taxi drivers, tour guides, local restaurants, clubs, and how to get to these places if you do not want to wait for me.

I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood

The Bear's Lair? Piece and Love? Bikinis and booty?

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]I'm sure this group of people will be offended that you refused to change the name. Why? A slap in their face. I wonder if they will decide to visit during peak festivities.

Google this

Haitixchange index php viewthread 3277[/QUOTE]Whats odd is that if you read the Haitian Xchange forum

[url]http://www.Haitixchange.com/[/url] index.php/ forums/viewthread/ 3277/P84/#60077

A new concerned citizen named Concerned32 posted a link back to this forum with the text [QUOTE]"The website is back up. I've also found this guy advertising the house on a sex travelers website. He goes by the name of BadBear2000 and is trying to turn Haiti into another sex destination for old perverts. "[/QUOTE]Concerned32 is a newbie with one post on their forum, a post made on Nov 24, 2009.

Ayyyypapi, I'm interested in hearing what you think of this strange coincidence? Your words seem improbably prophetic? Perhaps you can share a stock tip?

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood[/QUOTE]The point is to make people curious. So this is it: La Maison de Plaisirs Erotiques.

People will come just to figure out what it means!

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood[/QUOTE]

La Maison de L'ours

or just L'ours B&B

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]La Maison de L'ours

or just L'ours B&B[/QUOTE]These two are my favourites so far. Building off these, how about, "Chez L'ours" or "Chez le Mauvais Ours."

[QUOTE=Ayyyypapi]Questions:

Are trolling fees included?

Does the free night include a free day?

Is the prize transferrable?

Does the prize include water and TP?

Is ice free?[/QUOTE]Now you're starting to be a bit of a goof about this. IMHO.

[QUOTE=Reconnoiter]Whats odd is that if you read the Haitian Xchange forum

[url]http://www.Haitixchange.com/[/url] index.php/ forums/viewthread/ 3277/P84/#60077

A new concerned citizen named Concerned32 posted a link back to this forum with the text Concerned32 is a newbie with one post on their forum, a post made on Nov 24, 2009.

Ayyyypapi, I'm interested in hearing what you think of this strange coincidence? Your words seem improbably prophetic? Perhaps you can share a stock tip?[/QUOTE]

They wouldn't have made that connection without having it directly posted by an ISG member.

Still it's an interesting forum. You will find knee jerk attacks and spontaneous responses to them by other members of that forum.

It would be interesting for BB or somebody associated with the house to join that forum and answer questions openly - especially cool if Kreyol could be answered in reasonably fluent Kreyol. The forum members seem to be mostly people living in the US who write very literate American English - I can't judge their Kreyol - but having spent a couple months corresponding with Haitians I see a lot of the same proverbs and idioms I pulled off of websites to garnish my efforts at it.

THE WAR IS OVER!

Sorry Jackson for shouting that but I think all the guys here would love to know that tonight Ayyyypapi and I made peace with each other. We plan to even spend Christmas together. Who knows, we may go trolling together again.
Amen
Do I hear another Amen

....Amen....

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood[/QUOTE]
[B]Chocolate Castle[/B]

How about Cache Paradis (Hidden Paradise)? Since I don't speak french the order may have to be checked in case it should be Le paradis cache.

When you get off the main road turning down Delmas 64 it is as if everything changes.

The trees on each side of the street seem to reach for each other as if they are trying to meet and greet. They provide a canopy that shades the road causing an almost dreamlike state.

Or maybe I shouldn't have been drinking all day long while in Haiti.

Anyway, Cache Paradis (Hidden Paradise). I think there is supposed to be an accent over the "e" but I can't find that in my phone.

Introduce some of the hottest black babes in the world to lonely, old and young, rich and poor, and----------Oh well you get the idea. As Willy Nelson would say "On the Troll again, I just can't wait to get on the Troll again" And unlike Willy, I have not outlived My uuuuuhhh Mr. Happy. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]Introduce some of the hottest black babes in the world to lonely, old and young, rich and poor, and----------Oh well you get the idea. As Willy Nelson would say "On the Troll again, I just can't wait to get on the Troll again" And unlike Willy, I have not outlived My uuuuuhhh Mr. Happy. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't these posts be in the Classified Ads section?