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Guys,

has anyone from you mongers info about Flights from Ecuador to Colombia???(fe Cali)

I am thinking (just thinking....right now) of going to Ec. AND to Colombia in November.
I hear in Guayaqill and Quitop also great puss availeble and CHEAPO!!!

anyone impact please???

Johan.

Hello Johan,

You have a couple of options: 1) Tame to Cali, 2) Avianca to Bogota. Colombian girls have a great reputation for the GFE experience, so enjoy. Bogota has very good "shade" and it's a fun city (clubs, great restaurants). You'll get a lot of play in Cartagena too, and that's another fun town. I've never been to Cali, but have heard very good things about it too. Have a great time,

Pootang Hunter

I heard ther is a lot of migration from Peru because of the dollar, and colombia bacause of terrorism.
I wonder I've seen alot of Colombian girls but I have not seen any Peruvian girls in the buisness and guayas is close to the border

Does anyone know of any good reliable honest doctors in Guayaquil? And dentists? Someone who will not rip me off.

Thanks

Guys,

I was in cartagena last year..and I liked it a lot. A pity though that I couldn't do much because of my (ex!) novia at the time. Very celosa....so i had little time to sneak arround for other chicas...LOL

Anyways,, as I am in panama in February 2005 and I think I will have some time left (my ticket is 3 weeks valid) I am considering a trip to DR or to Ecuador. As I was in DR before and not overly liked it (allthough the women there are drop dead gorgeous) I tend to consider a short time to Ecuador.

Has somebody done this before?? Imean flying from one latin country to another? Does Copas Airlines also have flights to Ecuador?? I mean a flight to Quito would not take more then 2-3 hours...I guess.

Indeed it would be practical for me as the currency in BOTH Panama nd Ec. is the US Dollar. Right now for me (as an EURO user) dirt cheap!!
Other reason might be that Ec. is getting more and more stabile and has seen little inflation in contrast to other SA countries lately.

Fromn what I saw here and on other places on the net I am very IMPRESSED by the looks of the women in Guayaquil!! yes....I like very much the dark morenas and the negritas. Allthough the canelitas are also very welcome!

Cheers,


Johan.

Johan, done it lots of times. Grupo Taca has a direct flight from Panama City to Guayaquil.

Thanks Maltrufio!!:-)

I was on the website of Taca and I looked but I could not find any direct flights. (maybe I did something wrong?) All of them went via SAN JOSE in CR....which took up to 9 HOURS..!! Price was about US$ 350,- all in..acording that site.

I also went on a search with Copas....and they also had DIRECT flights to Guaquil.
Which took only 2 hours and 5 min..!! Same pricing here!!! 350 bucks (263 euros for me) which I think is not too expensive for a trip of 10 days.
So IF I go...it'll be with Copas...;-) saves me a lot of stress and time I guess.

The flights to DR from panama are all more expensive. 540 dollars and up....

thanks again for the tip

Cheers

Johan






[QUOTE=Maltrufio]Johan, done it lots of times. Grupo Taca has a direct flight from Panama City to Guayaquil.[/QUOTE]

I have found three websites that catered to mongering in this country

[url]www.mis-conejitas.com[/url]

[url]www.firstclass.com.ec[/url]

[url]www.jolie-femmes.com[/url]

if anybody has found anymore post up.

VIRUS WARNING :

I have a question DOOMBRINGER did you try these sites before so generously posting them ?

They are fucking riddled with viruses, did you know that ?

[url]www.mis-conejitas.com[/url]
[url]www.firstclass.com.ec[/url]
[url]www.jolie-femmes.com[/url]

Now I don't know you, or what your deal is but everyone should be warned that the sites are full of TROJAN VIRUSES SO BE WARNED AND DO NOT USE.

Buzz.

Hi Guys,


on this site:

[url]http://www.clasifica.com/[/url]


I found TONS of hookers and (maybe) freelancers in several SA countries. In Ecuador I noticed many hookers:-)
Also some more serious ads.

check it out dudes. the site is in spanish only;-)

Johan

Just for the record I have no idea what the fuck is going on but I have a personal computer at the house with DSL and I check for viruses everyweek and the sites that I post do not have viruses If however one is not carefull you can acquire viruses anywhere on the net by accepting cookies so on and so forth.
Someone should suggest to Buzz04 a class on how to safely navigate the net.

This is doombringer signing off.

I found this resource for Ecuador at [url]http://www.lamourgate.com/[/url] I don't know how usefull it is but it has alot of advertising even though I personallly have not contacted any of the independents or agencies involved in Quito or Guayaquil

I found a new website want to know if anybody has tried or will try their services

[url]http://www.escortsfirstclass.com/[/url] not to be confused with [url]http://www.firstclass.com.ec/[/url] that i posted earilier.

Anyway have a safe trip mongering you all.

I most humble member of this board would like to encourage you all, to initiate a kind of letter writing campaign so we can add a Salinas thread to the board there is just so much action and so many hotties in Salinas and is the only getaway spot in this country that it would only make sence that Jackson start a new thread, I've already PMed him on it, but to no avail I'm sure he has so many other things to do that he just hasn't gotten around to it but maybe if we emailed him collectively he could be persuaded to add a Salinas thread to the Ecuador board.

Anyway IMHO we need another thread called Salinas.
any bitches, gripes and complaints post up or PM me

Peace out.

I will put in a report if Salinas gets a folder. This is the nicest place in Ecuador IMHO.


Manta too.

You guys do watch your backs I hope. Shit happens big time. I mean you don't flash your rolexes and thick gold neck chains now do you?

Israel Air Force Industries envoy to Ecuador, Mordechai Pravda, killed during armed robbery.

An Israel Air force Industries envoy to Ecuador was murdered Thursday during an armed robbery in the coastal town of Guayaquil.

Eyewitnesses claimed 58-year-old Mordechai Pravda entered his rental car at 8 p.m. local time. A black vehicle suddenly pulled up and two men stepped out and smashed the windows of Pravda’s car.

They threatened him and ordered he drive towards downtown Guayaquil, where they forced Pravda to hand over all his money and possessions.

Pravda cooperated and gave them everything he had, except for one of the two necklaces he had around his neck. He told the robbers it was a gift from his father.

However, without responding, one of the men pointed his gun and shot Pravda in the head. Both men fled the scene.

Local residents found Pravda and rushed him over to a local clinic where he was pronounced dead.

Not a rare incident

Israel’s consul to Guayaquil Galit Efraim told Ynet that South American residents are used to violence on the streets.

“This city has a reputation of being a violent city,” she said. “ It’s the most violent cities in Ecuador with the highest crime rate.

Locals know not to get involved in such cases and to just cooperate with the criminals.”

Efraim said that Ecuador has a large Israeli community, made up of mostly businessmen.

“There is a clear warning by the Foreign Ministry for all Israeli’s to avoid any confrontation with robbers and to simply cooperate with them,” she said. “I believe Mordechai knew that and cooperated with them.”

Efraim said arrangements to transfer Pravda’s body to Israel were underway. In addition, local police have launched an investigation into the incident and are set to transfer its findings to the consul.

The nationally sindicated EXTRA has changes it's policy of allowing "companion adds" therefore it will become much harder to call those allways usefull escort services apparantly there has been new laws written by congress banning "Sex tourism" like these fucking country is a paradise for it anyway. Anyway just some usefull information I just thought I might share with you guys, in the future I will be compilling a list of all the escort agencies that I know off along with phone numbers since the other newspapers never allowed those adds. It has now become impossible to find them unless you are like me and keep those numbers around in case they come in handy they are surprisingly cheap no more than $25-40 per hour.

Peace out.

I have finally gotten JACKSON to add a section on the Ecuador board called salinas, that is for all you beach goers that were always PM me about all the hot non pro action going on in salinas so don't sit back and admire it post up, let us see how many people respond.

Peace out.

And what about the "casas" , such as Medellin, and how to find the new ones. Can yoy explain me more about taht, because I was therein march and nothing had achneged yet.

I am advising that people should be more carefull when calling the "agencies" since a friend of mine who works at the health ministry informed me that thos girls do not get regular check up for AIDS as do the SW or Club girls so be carefull.

Peace out.

I am told that the US dollar is the offical currency of Ecuador! Is this ture?

[QUOTE=El Pato]I am told that the US dollar is the offical currency of Ecuador! Is this ture?[/QUOTE]

Yup, has been since I think the year 2000 or so. But it's not the only Latin America country with the dollar, Panama uses it as well, and I think El Salvador does now too.

That's one of the good things about Ecuador IMHO, no worries about any exchange rate problems (like Brasil, for example), no matter how weak the dollar gets, a $15 session is still going to be $15!

Very interesting opinion Enzhino but IMHO the worst thing that happened to this country was the change to the dollar, from the foreigners point of view to invest in Ecuador costs almost as much as investing in Europe except that in Europe you have the advantage of being in a Democratically and economically stable region which is not the case in Ecuador and from a mongers point, if you are like me and travelled all of latin america you'll notice something allmost everywhere else pussy is cheaper and give better service ecuadorian women are not as pretty or as cheap as women in Central america or Brazil, Colombia or Venezuela.
Maybe some people do not like being bother with exchange but I prefer going through the hassle of exchanging if it means getting better pirces or cheaper products.
Just my .02$ in.

[QUOTE=Doombringer321]Very interesting opinion Enzhino but IMHO the worst thing that happened to this country was the change to the dollar, from the foreigners point of view to invest in Ecuador costs almost as much as investing in Europe except that in Europe you have the advantage of being in a Democratically and economically stable region which is not the case in Ecuador and from a mongers point, if you are like me and travelled all of latin america you'll notice something allmost everywhere else pussy is cheaper and give better service ecuadorian women are not as pretty or as cheap as women in Central america or Brazil, Colombia or Venezuela.
Maybe some people do not like being bother with exchange but I prefer going through the hassle of exchanging if it means getting better pirces or cheaper products.
Just my .02$ in.[/QUOTE]

Well Doombringer, you seem to be from Ecuador, so you know more about this than I do, what was life like with the Sucre? I have talked to a few people here in Quito about the currency, and they don't like using the dollar either, but most of them are Communist-wannabees, anti-TLCers who admire Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales, so I never really took their opinions seriously.

In terms of the mogering scene here, I can't speak for the entire country, but I think it's pretty good here in Quito. I've only lived in Brasil as well, no where else in SA, so I can't compare it to anything else, but the way the Real is going against the dollar, Quito is definitely cheaper than Rio, that's for sure, although the Northeast of Brasil is still somewhat affordable. Anyways, lately I've been paying anywhere from $7-$16 for 15-30 minute sessions here in Quito, ummm.....do you think I'm overpaying? Would be interested in your opinion on this.

And you live in Guayaquil right? I've talked to a few Ecuatorianos in the casas and they say the mongering scene in Quito is MUCH better than Guayaquil, so maybe that has something to do with the way you view mongering in Ecuador?

And as far as investing in Ecuador, no offense, but I wouldn't invest in this country no matter what the currency was!

You are quite right Ezinho investing in Ecudor is a waste of time, as far as the Sucre is concerned before the dollar you could buy a lobster dinner for 5000 sucres the equivalent of 0.25 cents try finding a lobster dinner now at that price, most people at the time who where middle class could afford a maid now most maids won't even talk to you unless you offer them 200$ a month so now it's getting like america where only the very wealthy bother getting maids at all.
As for your friends being uncomfortable they may be communist sympathizers but consider this the international exchange rate for the sucre at the time the government changed the currency was 15000:1, then the disgraced president who ruled at the time who is now BTW a professor in Harvard buisness faculty in the US, declared a banking holliday people couldn't withdraw their funds for a whole month add to that when the holliday was lifted 30 days latter people were forced to withdraw their funds at the rate of 25000:1 so right of the bat they lost about 40% of their capital, but the disaster doesn't end there get this, the government imposed a cap on the amount of money that you could withdraw in cash so people that had large amounts of money or savings were given government bonds in dollars, now unlike the US where most people can freely exchange a government bond for the quantity that is worth, here most people are distrustfull of the system so the people that wanted to change say a 1000$ dollar bond had to deal with a market that would only pay about half of what it was worth so on top of the fact that they lost their fortune on the exchange what was left had to be halfed by the sell of the bonds so the middle calss pretty much went to the shithole.
The few people that had any funds left did what was not contemplated before in this country MASS IMMIGRATION in a whole year over 3 million people left the country, it would have been nice if all the people that left were the illetarate and uneducated ignorant retards that seem to abound in this country, but what left was the cream of the crop doctors, lawyers, bankers, engineers, college professors, teachers, small buisness owners, midddle buisness owners, all the highly talented and educated people without which a country couldn't function and still be called a developing country. I personally didn't witness this event since I was at the time serving the US military but had enought grim accounts of the economic situation to kind of understand what this country went through, 6 yrs. latter the country is just now beginning the slow recovering process but it may take a whole decade more to get to where this country started economically before 2000 when the dollar became the official currency, so understandibly no one specially the average joe on the street is particularly thrilled with the dollar or the memories of the economic situation that developed when it changed in 2000.
As for mongering it seems to me that you go to the real "low class" borthels in the red light district that provide service by industrial standards in that respect it hasn't changed much but what has increased in price since the dollar came in has been the middle level hoes the strip club girls and escorts services the are now charging 40-80 an hour that is way to much to pay I have gotten FS in the streets of miami for $60 and it ain't like this country has stunners like the do in other SA countries and their conservative society and repressed sexual culture reflects in the performance of their providers half of the P4P women that I have screwed in this country 60% won't do oral much less BBBJ, CIMTC, only about 10% will do anal, about 30% don't feel comftarble with DATY and after a nut most (90%) would like for you to leave while this is true of all working girls in other countries I have found that here working girls are more restrictive and less creative in their performance and not as good as Colombians, Ticas or Cubanas much less Brazilian and Argentinas.
BTW before the dollar you could get FS for as little as 4$, fine hoes in strip clubs for $15 and true gems for about 40-60$, about the only good thing in this country is that I'm making $$$$ otherwise I would kiss it goodbye and leave however I do miss my trips to Cuba, Brazil and certainly Colombia I hope that my commitments will slow down enough for me to leave the country around June so that I can have a sexual adventure in anyone of the aftermentioned countries.

This is Doombirnger321 signing off.

We've all been reading about Tungurahua "erupting" in the Quito thread, but this is too much!

Note: Check out the photo in the article for an example of a typical non-pro from the Sierras of Ecuador, yikes! LOL

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060716/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/ecuador_volcano_4[/url]

[QUOTE=Ezinho]We've all been reading about Tungurahua "erupting" in the Quito thread, but this is too much![/QUOTE]Oddly enough Volcan Tungurahua seems to be coinciding with my own violent eruptions. I climbed to her crater at the end of March, thought my life was over multiple times sitting on her crater floor watching explosions, flying rocks and ash clouds stretching hundreds of meters high.

Came to Quito the first week of April. Then, in mid May, she started erupting violently. Right about the same time I found Mariela and Kathy. She went to 'sleep' for a couple months only to violently reassert herself last Friday and Saturday, coinciding with my exploration of South Quito -- finding Brixi and Samira.

From this it is obvious Volcan Tungurahua and I are joined at the hip, my friends. I could not have selected a better alias.

;-)

Tung,

I’m not sure how long it takes for a report to post on the site. Just in case I’ll propose that we meet at my hotel at 4:00pm, the Radisson, in the bar. I'll have a t-shirt on that says Ziljian on it. Just say your with ISG and I’ll understand. This is in case I am unable to contact you further. I'll wait a half hour and if you don't show then I'll assume you were not interested. Should you receive my post in time to reply and know a better location I’m flexible, but just remember you know the city and I don’t so make it simple. Perhaps you could also contact me direct at my hotmail account.

Jcr153@

In covering all bases I shall reply here too. Your hotel bar at 4pm, Aug 30, is a perfect location. I will be there with cash in hand and ready for a long night of club-hitting and girl-feasting, should that be what you want.

Thanks JCR!

Can someone please tell me avaiablity of Vitamin V and also Cialis in Ecuador?Going there next month.Gracias por su ayuda.Bigjohn1

The cost for Cialis 20mg (Brand Name) is $9.00 - $10,00 and does not need a prescription. You can buy it in any Fybeca Pharmacy in Ecuador

Well, I have my ticket to go to Ecuador on Oct 17 and will be staying at Hotel Othello in New Town.

Along with a lot of mongering, I would like to do some traveling within the country. I know Peru has VIP or luxury buses that go all over the country and would like a heads up on the similar scene in Ecuador.

Has anyone used one of these buses? The price seems cheap (about $1.00/hour) but maybe a little too cheap. I just don't want to have to share my seat with a goat in a 1966 school bus.

Any information will be appreciated.

Riding a bus in Ecuador is an adventure. When I was in Cuenca, I met a New Yorker who traveled by bus from Quito to Cuenca. When he fell asleep on the bus, somone went through his carry on luggage that he had stowed in the overhead rack and took this digital camera. He didn't know it was missing until he reached his hotel room. He also had his iPod stolen while he was sleeping on the bus. When he woke up, his headphone was still in his ears, but his iPod was gone.

I did, however, find traveling by bus in Ecuador much safer and more comfortable than in Peru.

[QUOTE=Tuna Man]Well, I have my ticket to go to Ecuador on Oct 17 and will be staying at Hotel Othello in New Town.

Along with a lot of mongering, I would like to do some traveling within the country. I know Peru has VIP or luxury buses that go all over the country and would like a heads up on the similar scene in Ecuador.

Has anyone used one of these buses? The price seems cheap (about $1.00/hour) but maybe a little too cheap. I just don't want to have to share my seat with a goat in a 1966 school bus.

Any information will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hey buddy, Been here a few days on some two three hour buses, yes, about one dollar per hour, some equal Greyhound, some better, some a little worse,yes,there are chickenbuses, but to very small places you probly will not see.

Big John 1

Tunaman,

I was asking the same questions and found out a few things. There are three ways more or less of doing bus travel within ecuador.

1. bus company transporte "panamericana" with an office near the mariscal(Tel 2551839/avenida cristobal colon & reina victoria) will take you to the major cities in ecuador.

2. Transporte ecuador- (JL Mera N21-44 cerca jorge washington) Same kind of service as panamericana but I think PA is better known..I might be wrong. They all say first class service etc. To me only mexico really had first class service. I've done the bus thing in peru and it was whatever so you get what you get.

3. There is a major bus station in quito near the old city called terminal terreste (????) I might be wrong with the name . Ive been to many latin countries so it's all a blur. Those buses leave every day to many places in ecuador. Set yourself up in quito and try to arrange a locker or something so you can leave some things and come back for them in a few days. You would be surprised what is within 3/4 hours from quito..Alot

Always go to a bookstore and check out the guide books they will point you in the right direction .

I hope to be in quito fairly soon myself.

* By the way bus travel is not safe in ecuador but I've heard it's cheap.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Tunaman,

I was asking the same questions and found out a few things. There are three ways more or less of doing bus travel within ecuador.

1. bus company transporte "panamericana" with an office near the mariscal(Tel 2551839/avenida cristobal colon & reina victoria) will take you to the major cities in ecuador.

2. Transporte ecuador- (JL Mera N21-44 cerca jorge washington) Same kind of service as panamericana but I think PA is better known..I might be wrong. They all say first class service etc. To me only mexico really had first class service. I've done the bus thing in peru and it was whatever so you get what you get.

3. There is a major bus station in quito near the old city called terminal terreste (????) I might be wrong with the name . Ive been to many latin countries so it's all a blur. Those buses leave every day to many places in ecuador. Set yourself up in quito and try to arrange a locker or something so you can leave some things and come back for them in a few days. You would be surprised what is within 3/4 hours from quito..Alot

Always go to a bookstore and check out the guide books they will point you in the right direction .

I hope to be in quito fairly soon myself.

* By the way bus travel is not safe in ecuador but I've heard it's cheap.[/QUOTE]

Excellent information on bus travel in Equador by the way. I hope to make it there next year somtime before summer in the US.rbc100

[QUOTE=Doombringer321]You are quite right Ezinho investing in Ecudor is a waste of time, as far as the Sucre is concerned before the dollar you could buy a lobster dinner for 5000 sucres the equivalent of 0.25 cents try finding a lobster dinner now at that price, most people at the time who where middle class could afford a maid now most maids won't even talk to you unless you offer them 200$ a month so now it's getting like america where only the very wealthy bother getting maids at all.
As for your friends being uncomfortable they may be communist sympathizers but consider this the international exchange rate for the sucre at the time the government changed the currency was 15000:1, then the disgraced president who ruled at the time who is now BTW a professor in Harvard buisness faculty in the US, declared a banking holliday people couldn't withdraw their funds for a whole month add to that when the holliday was lifted 30 days latter people were forced to withdraw their funds at the rate of 25000:1 so right of the bat they lost about 40% of their capital, but the disaster doesn't end there get this, the government imposed a cap on the amount of money that you could withdraw in cash so people that had large amounts of money or savings were given government bonds in dollars, now unlike the US where most people can freely exchange a government bond for the quantity that is worth, here most people are distrustfull of the system so the people that wanted to change say a 1000$ dollar bond had to deal with a market that would only pay about half of what it was worth so on top of the fact that they lost their fortune on the exchange what was left had to be halfed by the sell of the bonds so the middle calss pretty much went to the shithole.

The few people that had any funds left did what was not contemplated before in this country MASS IMMIGRATION in a whole year over 3 million people left the country, it would have been nice if all the people that left were the illetarate and uneducated ignorant retards that seem to abound in this country, but what left was the cream of the crop doctors, lawyers, bankers, engineers, college professors, teachers, small buisness owners, midddle buisness owners, all the highly talented and educated people without which a country couldn't function and still be called a developing country. I personally didn't witness this event since I was at the time serving the US military but had enought grim accounts of the economic situation to kind of understand what this country went through, 6 yrs. latter the country is just now beginning the slow recovering process but it may take a whole decade more to get to where this country started economically before 2000 when the dollar became the official currency, so understandibly no one specially the average joe on the street is particularly thrilled with the dollar or the memories of the economic situation that developed when it changed in 2000.

As for mongering it seems to me that you go to the real "low class" borthels in the red light district that provide service by industrial standards in that respect it hasn't changed much but what has increased in price since the dollar came in has been the middle level hoes the strip club girls and escorts services the are now charging 40-80 an hour that is way to much to pay I have gotten FS in the streets of Miami for $60 and it ain't like this country has stunners like the do in other SA countries and their conservative society and repressed sexual culture reflects in the performance of their providers half of the P4P women that I have screwed in this country 60% won't do oral much less BBBJ, CIMTC, only about 10% will do anal, about 30% don't feel comftarble with DATY and after a nut most (90%) would like for you to leave while this is true of all working girls in other countries I have found that here working girls are more restrictive and less creative in their performance and not as good as Colombians, Ticas or Cubanas much less Brazilian and Argentinas.

BTW before the dollar you could get FS for as little as 4$, fine hoes in strip clubs for $15 and true gems for about 40-60$, about the only good thing in this country is that I'm making $$$$ otherwise I would kiss it goodbye and leave however I do miss my trips to Cuba, Brazil and certainly Colombia I hope that my commitments will slow down enough for me to leave the country around June so that I can have a sexual adventure in anyone of the aftermentioned countries.

Like everywhere,of course Educador was once cheaper. But right now in Old Town, Quito, Hotel $6 nightly, good full meals one dollar each local places, cheap fruit, cheap beer cheap women, I average $15-$20 daily for EVERTHING, way cheaper than most places for sure!

Big John 1

I had to go to Peru-Ecuador border to re-new my visa, this was few days back. I had read about a *****house near the border so I decided to visit
the place. It is a ten minutes walk from the Ecuadorian immigration office.
There is a dirt road that branches out of the main highway, walk few yards
on this dirt road,turn left you will see one house on the left and three houses on the right, make another left, short one, you will get to see a huge building with a big door, inside there are many tables to watch the girls while you have a beer. I counted 28 girls working, this was at about noon. I did not see anyone I would have liked to screw, I left. $1 beer, $ 10 for screwing!

On the Peruvian side prices are cheap, on the Ecuadorian side everything is in $$$.

The other houses had rooms inside but were empty!

Hi guys,last week took a bus to a place called San Antonio,it is between Octavalo and Ibarra.When I disebarrked saw three female barbers advertised haircuts for 80 cents!!I watched awhile,chose the oldest and seeming the best barber.It turned out Silvia is 36.She was an outgoing morena type,and i have had much worse cuts for eight bucks!I gave her two bucks which she appreciated.The shop was closing,so I asked her to dinner,she said she needed to get her three sons,ages 12,4,and two,i said okay it was like a family dinner,the whole meal cost less than ten bucks for us all.She told me of her life,many weeks she earns 40 bucks.No beauty queen,a bit gorda,but a warm,caring woman.I had another hotel in Octavalo but got a oom for $3.50 to take Silvia for breakfast,she left her kids with a friend,without her kids very friendly.I asked her to come to my other hotel in Octavalo since she lived in a very small town,naturally worried about talk.She said she would meet me there,but only if we took separate buses and would arrange for kids.She showed up,albeit two hours late.She was a little nervous,so i suggested going for drinks,four cuba libres later we were both very ready.There was much talk in the room,a 62 year Gringo,a 36 year old ecuadorian in the same place.Not the greatest sex,not many differeent postions,but lots of affection.She did not want a condom and in fact pulled it off in the middle of things,nice big jugs,but nicer the feeling.We both went about the same time,watched TV a couple hours,then a repeat,in fact two repeats.Silvia asked for nothing,i gave her cab,not bus fare to her puebla as it was now dark,we both held,i gave her fifty bucks for groceries as a gift at the end.She does not want me in her town,I understand.Today got a nice email from Silvia.This was very good.Big John 1

[QUOTE=Big John 1]Hi guys,last week took a bus to a place called San Antonio,it is between Octavalo and Ibarra.When I disebarrked saw three female barbers advertised haircuts for 80 cents!!I watched awhile,chose the oldest and seeming the best barber.It turned out Silvia is 36.She was an outgoing morena type,and i have had much worse cuts for eight bucks!I gave her two bucks which she appreciated.The shop was closing,so I asked her to dinner,she said she needed to get her three sons,ages 12,4,and two,i said okay it was like a family dinner,the whole meal cost less than ten bucks for us all.She told me of her life,many weeks she earns 40 bucks.No beauty queen,a bit gorda,but a warm,caring woman.I had another hotel in Octavalo but got a oom for $3.50 to take Silvia for breakfast,she left her kids with a friend,without her kids very friendly.I asked her to come to my other hotel in Octavalo since she lived in a very small town,naturally worried about talk.She said she would meet me there,but only if we took separate buses and would arrange for kids.She showed up,albeit two hours late.She was a little nervous,so i suggested going for drinks,four cuba libres later we were both very ready.There was much talk in the room,a 62 year Gringo,a 36 year old ecuadorian in the same place.Not the greatest sex,not many differeent postions,but lots of affection.She did not want a condom and in fact pulled it off in the middle of things,nice big jugs,but nicer the feeling.We both went about the same time,watched TV a couple hours,then a repeat,in fact two repeats.Silvia asked for nothing,i gave her cab,not bus fare to her puebla as it was now dark,we both held,i gave her fifty bucks for groceries as a gift at the end.She does not want me in her town,I understand.Today got a nice email from Silvia.This was very good.Big John 1[/QUOTE]See guys,it can be done,for me a nice change from mongering.

Has anyone flown Lan airlines to ecuador? I've never really flown too many foreign carriers but due to shabby service and shabby airplanes on the american side I'd like to try something else.

I would be going coach from new york jfk to guayaquil (one hour layover) then on to quito.
I notice they have a jfk to quito through Lima,Peru . Do you have to get off the plane? Thanks

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Has anyone flown Lan airlines to ecuador? I've never really flown too many foreign carriers but due to shabby service and shabby airplanes on the american side I'd like to try something else.[/QUOTE]
I recently flew LAN all over South America over a 60 day period on a OneWorld Airpass. I was quite impressed with their excellent service. The most impressive thing was their punctuality. Every flight departed and arrived on time. Moreover, they aren't miserly about food the way US airlines are; if it's meal time, you'll get a hot meal. Food was average for airline food. Economy class seats were reasonably comfortable, with adequate legroom. No excessive waiting for checked luggage. It seems to be a popular airline; nearly every flight was full. I gained mileage with my AAdvantage card. They posted all the mileage promptly, and I had no problems in this area.

I didn't fly LAN to Ecuador, but I did fly them from Quito to Lima. I didn't take any intercontinental flights, only within SA. My longest flight was 6-1/2 hours from Santiago-Caracas, which is as long as an intercontinental flight. Service was still very good. On the intra-South America flights most of the flight attendants don't speak English, although announcements are in Spanish and English. This may be different on intercontinental routes.

Lorenzo

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Has anyone flown Lan airlines to ecuador? I've never really flown too many foreign carriers but due to shabby service and shabby airplanes on the american side I'd like to try something else.[/QUOTE]

I've flown LAN to Peru before, and service was fine. You can credit to American Airlines, in addition to LAN's own program.

Thank you to those who answered my question.

I have 28,000 miles with AA so that works great. My biggest complaint with AA is that the seats dont go back far enough and when I went to buenos aires last spring I vowed I would never do long flights with AA anymore.
The flight attendants on AA are miserable as well.

Everytime I travel through latin america by bus I have been pleased with the service. There seems to be some unwritten law that you get treated a certain way. I dont feel the same appreciation traveling with american companies. I'd like to try other avenues.

I am going to Quito in a few days. I bought my tickets through Expedia on COPA. It is a Panamanian airline, but I have never been on one of their flights before, so right now I can't say if they are good or not.

I fly out of JFK and connect in Panama City. The layover is only 2 hours, so it should not be too bad. Total price was $470 including tax.

If you keep checking all the different ticket brokers, you can find deals.

On my first trip to Costa Rica I went on AA and vowed to never use them again. The connection in Miami is a horrible pain in the ass. All the rest of the times I went to CR I Flew on Taca and had very good service.

FYI - Copa is a Continental affiliate. I have flown them US to Panama as well as Panama to Colombia and Costa Rica. Basically the same service level as Continental. Actually a little bit better on the Latin American legs. Mostly 737's. They have always ran on time on my trips.

Ok guys I am planning my trip to Ecuador in Feb 2007.

What are good, clean, reasonably priced girl friendly hotels near the action?

Can someone confirm that I can use the same electrical outlet plug in ecuador as I do in the states? I think I was able to last time I've just forgotten.


Thanks,

Artisttyp

Copa is 49% owned by Continental. They use the same frequent flyer plan, Onepass. You can get free upgrades to FC if you're an elite with CO.

All the Copa planes that I've seen are 737's. 800/900 series, I think. Connections in Panama City are pretty easy, as it's not that big of a hub, and you can walk from one end to the other in 10 minutes or so.

What is the best beach city for overall night life and action?

Thanks In Advance,

LP!

Artisttype- Voltage in Ecuador is 110 vlt 60hz same as us.

Lan is one of the best airlines in Latin America, AA needs to learn from them, the stewardesses are fine not like the old hads working for AA. Hahahah

Tuna Man- Copa is a great airline and duty free shopping in Panama which is the transit point is great for bargains.

Latin Passion- Manta is a party Beach City as well as Esmeraldas but personally I prefer Manta, more babes and cheaper prices.

I have been living in Quito 3 years and love it here, lots of ladies 3-1 Ratio and they love Gringos because they don't haave a macho bullshit attitude..Plus they like our $$$$.

Let me know if anyone needs any other info, glad to help out.

Planning my first trip to Ecuador in mid January, will hit Quito first then maybe the beach!

I'm reading a lot about the casas but not much about bringing chicas back to your room, what is the todo la noche scene all about?

Globe any short tiime apartment rentals in Quito, and if not any descent, hotels?

Thanks in advance,

LP!

I have the same kinds of questions and look forward to your reply here in the general forum or PM me if you like. Thanks for taking the time to help those looking forward to the answers.

Stay Safe!

Latina,
There are temporary apartments available fairly cheap, can check for you and let you know. As far as hotels, there is the Hotel Quito located next to American Ambassador's residence in the center of the city 5 minutes from Mariscal (GringoLand)which offers rates of about $50/night and is 4 star. Let me know what price range you are looking for and I can check out some alternates, hotels like Radisson & Marriott get about $150/night. Hostels are another matter $5-$10 range but you can forget about ladies coming there with you plus no privacy. Private casa are better but you go with the girl in their facility.

The better hotels tolerate a Lady visitor provided she gives her documents when going to your room, sometimes the hotel charges a small fee but if you register as a DOUBLE when checking in you can avoid the fee when the girl comes to your room, sometimes you need to scream like a LOCO GRINGO so they get the message. Ecuadorans by nature are very complacent and do not like verbal confrontations with Americans. I scream at them on an average of 5 times per day to get what I need done. So is the 3rd world.

DPILZBO-- Just let me know what particular info you need and will be glad to help.

You answered my main question pertaining to apts avaliable and a hotel suggestion. I have reservations at the Marriott but my buddies will be looking for cheaper places to stay which I might too but I got the Marriott for 80 a night. As always though, if I can be happy for cheaper, then so be it. lol.

What info do you have on cell phones, in particular sim cards. We all have unlocked quad band phones so sim cards would be nice. I saw that bell south and porta are carriers but not much else info wise.

Thanks again, I'll keep an eye out for your informative posts and those from other members.

Dpilzbo

I strongly discourage yelling like a gringo loco to get your way. No one deserves this kind of treatment (Maybe some people do, but I don't if you're yelling at them 5 times a day, you should consider chilling out a little bit). And behaving like this just leaves the impression that gringos are jagoffs who bring down nothing but their money and are worthy of being ripped off. Have some consideration for people coming down later. If they experience enough of this, you'll see more of the working women behaving like putas on a downtown NY street corner. Mean, cold, corrupt and businesslike. Have some consideration for the future mongers if nothing else.

Even if you adhere to the idea that it's an 3rd world country, behaving like a spoiled child is really not a ideal way to demonstate your superiority.

I hooked up with an absolute 28yo hottie, with kind of a low self-esteem!

This chica is absolutely smoking, educated, lives with her sister and get this NO RUG RATS! LOL!

I forgot I have some Starwood points in my account so I'll be at the Shearaton for one night then headed to the northern coast for a few days and back to Quito for a day! Love to hook up for a beer and a quick run at your favorite casa!

Dirty: Just my two cents but, I don't think Globe meant it like that, from what I gather he owns his own bussiness I think, and if you have ever tried doing business in South America, somtimes you have to use a persuasive argument to get things done down there, or else you will be stuck with the ole Manana attitude! And nada will get done.

I dont think anyone needs to yell at anybody thats why america is so awful.
One of the reasons I love south america is for the service. I feel they really appreciate your business.
Sometimes when Im shopping in a store the female clerks will drive you a little nuts showing you crap you dont need and doesnt relate to what your looking for but thats retail.
Americans have a bad reputation for being spoiled and its true we are very self involved. We demand alot.

Globe trotter,

If you're running a business and that's the way things have to be dealt with, then you have my apology and my sympathies as well.

On the other hand I just don't think it's good to recommend getting in people's faces when things don't go your way down there. I've seen too many times where a tourist loses his temper and becomes really ugly and confrontational and it really makes my stomach turn. And it really always ends up being Americans which just makes me ashamed and embarrassed. I just hope someone reads this and keeps it in mind next time they're ready to raise a fuss over somehthing stupid.

Sorry to go off topic.

Hi guys,

Sorry, but I did not mean to upset everyone with my comments about screaming like a "Loco Gringo" maybe it was a bad choice of words.

But being a business owner here and having to deal with a daily load of BS from various customers & public service companies, it is not easy to just wash your hands and accept customers that owe you $25,000-$50,000 and do not want to pay or when Andinatel & TV cable cut off your service even though you paid on time, just because they do not have the internal systems to properly monitor their customers. Or when customs (Aduana) here wants to charge you 30-40% of the value of the goods you are importing (when the published rate is 5%) just because one of the customs agents reviewing your cargo needs additional income to pay his own expenses (don't forget, Ecuador was rated the 3'rd most corrupt country in the world). Or when a Hospital purchasing agent has the "BALLS" to ask for a 50% Bribe to give you a $100,000 order when he is being paid by the state to do his job properly, if I paid that who do you think pays the ultimate price-- The Ecuadoran People, that's who.. and I do not think that is fair....

I have tried for over 2 years to be tolerant, understanding and accepting, but NO MORE, sorry but if you all had a business here, and not just visiting for a short time, you would totally understand what I am referring to. Every time I have done things the way it is done in the States, I have had shit piled on top of me, since I adopted the Loco Gringo attitude, my business has prospered because my customers know I mean business and that we are a serious and professional company that will not tolerate CORRUPTION, LIES, & TOTALLY BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE.

Make no mistake, I respect the Ecuadoran people otherwise I would not remain here, but I will not be trampled upon nor will I accept things because that is the "WAY IT IS DONE" when it is my livelyhood and that of my employees at stake, I have not run numerous successfull businesses in Latin America by acting that way, No Risk No Gain Guys.

Again, my appologies if I have offended anyone on the board.

I finally enjoyed myself and had the time to take off my pants without worrying.
Chicas cost $15 for 30 minutes which is what Im looking for. The girl was really pretty and I thought I made the mistake of choosing a ***** but she wound up giving a really good covered blowjob which is hard to do and she finished me off with a handjob no rubber. I havent gotten that here yet.
I tipped her $5 so the next time she knows there is a good tip coming to her if she treats me right. I want to go down on her for sure but I didnt have my mouthwash.
Tommorow I will try masajes medallin. Until then.

Artisttyp

Ok well Im back on lock down status here in new york. I promised to share a few bits of information. Here they are numbered as they pop out of my head.

1. If you have alot of stuff to take home arrive at the airport three hours ahead. I got nailed for my first time. They also saw a mountain of condoms and asked me questions whether I had a girlfriend in quito etc. I told them I always travel with condoms.

2. Bring small bills

3. Lan airlines was really fair. It cost me $50 to change dates coming and only $77 if I wanted to go home early ( I wasnt feeling well). The airplane going home had TV screens in front of every seat with various programming movies, games,tv etc. * The seats reclined like a lazy boy chair with leg and head reclining abilities. I will not go on american airlines again if I can help it.

4. [url]www.realaudiencia.com[/url] or hotel san francisco right around the corner for hotels in centro historico. $26 a night with tax and breakfast. I stayed the first 8 days in the old town and was glad I did. I really enjoyed waking up to a gothic enviorment with no tourists and a feeling for history. Dont stay there for the first few days till your breathing becomes better (many hills).

5. Indio Inn (not hotel) otovalo $30 with bfkfast accepts credit card rooms very nice quite hotel with rooms sourrounded by a courtyard. Very pleasant when you want to get away from the buying and selling of plaza de los ponchos.

6. Cotacatchi- buy bags and wallets like there is no tommorow...fantastic most people accept credit card but bring some cash you'll want it. Dont buy jackets in cotocatchi.

7. Leather Jackets- Go to a town called quisapincha 20 minutes from ambato $40/$50 for something they will charge $120 for in quito or cotacatchi. Its a little hike out there 3/4 hrs. Go to terminal terreste in quito ask for service to ambato (every 15 minutes) then ask for either a bus or cab from ambato bus terminal or side of the road as you enter ambato to quisapincha bus 25 cents cab $4 - $6. They accept credit cards in many but not all of the places.

8. In quito try Siam-thaifood
Rincon de guacho-Steak
Breakfast at the magin bean hostal (bring a huge appetite)

*All located in the mariscal foch gringolandia

9. Hotel rincon escandinavo baquerizo moreno and 6 de deciembre look for the yellow sign with a blue viking hat on it. This is the second time Ive stayed here. $25 with balcony quite cable tv with movie channels and very comfortable. Single rooms for $16. The only set back is you need to cross a few lonley streets at night. Take a cab if your worried. * You may be allowed to bring in a girl. The guy that worked the night shift last year said yes I didnt ask this time.

10. Dont expect much from the girls go to different casas for a variety of service. You get what you get so enjoy it.

11. Exit tax is $31.70 the most Ive ever paid anywhere. It was raised from $25 8 months ago.

Hey Artisttyp,
I'm sorry about the phone problems & that we missed each other,
but it I'm glad nevertheless that you enjoyed your time here.

Mongerers who want meet up with me or others here Quito when they get here, I recommend activating your PM services by paying Jackson's small fee. I will post some info privately that I won't post publicly for fairly obvious reasons. One of those things is my cell number.

For you guys coming to Quito or Ecuador & may want to have cellular access, I will suggest a few things.
First, it will be cheaper to buy or bring a cheap model cellular from the US or outside Ecuador.
I brought a cheap Nokia 6010 which I had been using in San Diego's T-Mobile network
and Tijuana's Telcel network. Therefore, the Movistar network in Ecuador worked fine for me.
Their offices which are all over will sell you a chip, card, number, & minutes for as little as $3.
That $3 is only an introductory offer, but lasts for over a month. While it won't last long for talking,
most people do text messeging as it's much cheaper. Then buy $10 cards as their expiration dates far exceed the cheaper cards. There also exists Porta and another for cell service, but I don't know much about them.
BTW, texting is also better if your spanish isn't very good, but you still want to communicate with the local girls.
Trying to comprehend listening to them by phone can be difficult & costly in minutes.

Those who won't have cellulars in Ecuador should make use of the cabinas found most everywhere here for making calls both locally and beyond. Don't be timid to ask them for assistance if neccessary as dialing local land lines or cellulars might require using some extra digits.

It appears as though another Latin American country has chosen to move away from the US orbit as the election results show that a leftist named Rafael Correa has won.
The other candidate, a US-backed bible-toting billionare bananaman named Alvaro Naboa from what I heard is likely to scream fraud.
I was walking the street earlier this evening and witnessed thousands on the streets smiling, cheering, singing, waving flags, blowing horns, etc.
Indeed a very interesting experience

[QUOTE=Bobisee]It appears as though another Latin American country has chosen to move away from the US orbit as the election results show that a leftist named Rafael Correa has won.
...........I was walking the street earlier this evening and witnessed thousands on the streets smiling, cheering, singing, waving flags, blowing horns, etc.
Indeed a very interesting experience[/QUOTE]

Bobisee:

Did they have Ley Seco (no alcohol sales) during the election period there - similar to Peru?

Polvo

Yeah, it's was a dry weekend most places.

I was down this weekend for business but tried to do some partying in the evening... Major bummer.:(

I am friendly with the lady who runs 270 La Nina so she did serve me and I took one of the Quitenas there. Fairly decent. All the other places I could find weren't even open.

As the US dollar continues its slow decline against the Euro, the pound, and other major world currencies, will that have any impact on the price of pussy in Ecuador, given the fact that their currency [i]is[/i] indeed the US dollar?

I'm planning a visit to Ecuador in March of next year.

[QUOTE=Long Stroker]As the US dollar continues its slow decline against the Euro, the pound, and other major world currencies, will that have any impact on the price of pussy in Ecuador, given the fact that their currency [i]is[/i] indeed the US dollar?

I'm planning a visit to Ecuador in March of next year.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm not sure I understand the question, are you coming from the U.S. or Europe? The price of snatch in Ecuador shouldn't rise if the dollar is low. I mean, snatch isn't an official currency traded on the world market. And even if it does rise, I doubt it would be a huge increase.

If anything, if you're coming from Europe, Ecuador pussy should be even cheaper. For example, the pound is almost 2-1 against the dollar now, so a 15 min session could cost as low as 3.5 Quid if you're British!

What I would be a little more concerned about is the new President of Ecuador, Rafael Correa. He has always been opposed to the dollar being the official currency of Ecuador, so it will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years with this new President. Who knows what will happen if he gets his way...

Planning my first trip to Ecuador.

Since the US dollar is their official currency, what kind of change do they give?

Quarters, nickels, dimes?

[QUOTE=Shekwan]Planning my first trip to Ecuador. Since the US dollar is their official currency, what kind of change do they give? Quarters, nickels, dimes?[/QUOTE]

I had read that they were going to change the name of the Ecuadorian currency to a "Tung"!

(This is a new denomination with an exchange rate of $7 per ficha!)

:-)

Polvo

Thanks for the reply, Ezinho. Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm coming from the US with dollars.

I just thought that maybe if the dollar gets too weak, the girls would bump the prices up some from the current $7, $15, and $20 structure.

[QUOTE=Globe Trotter]The cost for Cialis 20mg (Brand Name) is $9.00 - $10,00 and does not need a prescription. You can buy it in any Fybeca Pharmacy in Ecuador[/QUOTE]Anyone know if they offer the generic viagra, India brand, in Quito? I believe it was going for 2 bucks a pill in Costa Rica.

Later,

SB

Have some bad news for all us Ecuador mongers. Because of a coin shortage, the penny could be worth five cents soon! I wonder if this will affect prices?

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,247479,00.html[/url]

A potential shortage of coins in the United States could mean all those pennies in your piggy bank could be worth five times their current value soon, says an economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

Sharply rising prices of metals such as copper and nickel have meant the face value of pennies and nickels are worth less than the material that they are made of, increasing the risk that speculators could melt the coins and sell them for a profit.

Such a risk spurred the U.S. Mint last month to issue regulations limiting melting and exporting of the coins.

But Francois Velde, senior economist at the Chicago Fed, argued in a recent research note that prohibitions by the Mint would unlikely deter serious speculators who already have piled up the coinage.

The best solution, Velde said, would be to "rebase" the penny by making it worth five cents rather than one cent. Doing so would increase the amount of five-cent coins in circulation and do away with the almost worthless one cent coin.

"History shows that when coins are worth melting, they disappear," Velde wrote.

"Rebasing the penny would ... debase the five-cent piece and put it safely away from its melting point," he added.

Raw material prices in general have skyrocketed in the last five years, sending copper prices to record highs of $4.16 a pound in May. Copper pennies number 154 to a pound. Prices have since come down from that peak but could still trek higher, Velde said.

Since 1982, the Mint began making copper-coated zinc pennies to prevent metals speculators from taking advantage of lofty base metal prices. Though the penny is losing its importance — it is worth only four seconds of the average American's work time, assuming a 40-hour workweek — the Mint is making more and more pennies.

Velde said that since 1982 the Mint has produced 910 pennies for every American. Last year there were 8.23 billion pennies in circulation, according to the Mint.

"These factors suggest that, sooner or later, the penny will join the farthing (one-quarter of a penny) and the hapenny (one-half of a penny) in coin museums," he said.

I want to address this the most knowledgeable guys on the Quito scene, which seems to be Tung and you, Ezinho.

From what I have been reading here, it seems all the action is from casas/MPs/strip clubs that you have to take the girls upstairs to a dingy room to f*ck. Are there any chances of taking a girl back to your hotel/apartment to enjoy? either take-out from the establishment or you setting up a 'date' outside of her workplace. Sometimes it is just nice not to HAVE use the rooms upstairs.

Any place to pickup freelancers, etc.?

Yes Almotu it is possile to get a girl to come to your place. It is not mentioned much here, but there was a brief talk about it once if I am not mistaken. I was able to get a few numbers from girls that were interested in doing something outside of the casa. I just paid the 700 pennies or whatever the price was, and then while in the room talked more about coming to the hotel. That way you at least get a brief preview of the girl and if you even want her to come to your room. It was around 40% yes answers but my terrible spanish may have been the reason. Some of the girls quoted really high prices relative to what they may make for the same time in the casa but again my spanish skills made it almost impossible to negotiate with those girls. Bobisee helped me with one woman that I was interested in but I didn't get a chance to follow through. (Thanks again B)

There are some freelancers out there too. If I can find the info on this guy Chippy (may not be spelled correctly) I will post it here. He introduced us to some girls that were a lot of fun and turned out to be great guides too.

Hope this was helpful.

I was looking through the picture forum and particularly pictures from Tungurahua. His girls rate are from $7-20USD i persume. Is that right? Alot of those girls are gorgeous. Most of them look like girls from the hip-hops video. Can anyone tell me the rate for an all nighter with the girls in Ecuador? This sounds way too good. Thank for the info.

Hey Kid: scope out the most recent Quito Fuckclub List in the Reports of Distinction section. It will help to shed some light on your question without having to repeat myself here. Other posters, like the fellow previous to your post (Dpilzbo), have recently added some words.

And yes, $7-20 USD is right. 700 pennies gets you some lovin' pussy here.

Basically, I just like to mix things up. In Rio/Sao Paulo I like to go to termas, boites, take freelancers at HELP, have a local guy introduce me to chicas, massage parlours in Sao Paulo, etc. In Thailand, I like going to beer bars, soapies and go-go bars. Short Time / Long Time Whatever! After all, variety is the spice of life.

I just wanted to know my options for Quito and so far from what I have read here it is very tempting. Great, not having to watch the exchange rate to the local currency all the time before a trip. Let's face it, the USD is not doing well these days. It is nice to go to place and know the value of your 'pennies'.

BTW, just curious . . how much does a normal office secretary earn per week in Ecuador? a waitress? etc.

.....but remember alot of times the service is lame and paying for a double session does not mean you will get better service.
Sooner or later you will get an idea of where to spend your money and who to ask for extras but first I'd shop around and try on the merchandise .

Believe it or not but after three weeks I was bored with the service and could have really used some GFE hotel room action and Im someone that prefers casas over anything.

You will have a good time just be aware of the above.

This discussion is interesting, so I wanted to add my two cents on these topics of TLN and onsite service. Keep in mind, these are just my opinions, you may not agree with them.

First of all, I have never done TLN with a working girl in this country. Never. With normal girls, yes, but never with a pro. I have to admit I much prefer the casa scene, where you can take a girl, bang her for 15 minutes, and then move on to another girl. I personally prefer not to get involved emotionally with these girls; been there, done that, won't do it again. It's funny because when I lived in Brasil, I was the same way, I always loved the Centro short-time/termas scene, and absolutely hated the Help/Meia Pataca scene, so for me Quito is great.
[QUOTE=Almotu]Short Time / Long Time Whatever! After all, variety is the spice of life.
[/QUOTE]
I agree with this Almotu, but for me, the variety is in the different chicas you can bang all in one day, not different time spans! Call me crazy, but I like the availability of having sex with many different women for very little money; I believe Tungurahua holds this same opinion as well.

If you are really into TLN, I honestly am not sure why you would bother coming to this country. Just look at some of the reports in the Guayaquil thread, guys paying $100 or more upfront for TLN, and then the girl leaves after one pop. You can get a girl from one on the chongos to come back to your place for an hour or so, that's certainly possible, but TLN? ¡Bienvenido al Ecuador!

I notice that many guys have asked this same question about TLN, wondering why it is never mentioned on here. Gentlemen, sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct one! It's never mentioned here because we don't do it! Most girls here are not into it, and the local guys (which make up 95% of the clients) aren't into it as well. Keep in mind many of these guys are married, and just come to the casas for a quicky. They have no interest to romance these girls, and they certainly can't take them back home! So, there is no demand for TLN here. And what happens when there is no demand? That's right, Econ majors, there's no supply!

My advice: just enjoy Ecuador for what it is; a place where you can have a quicky with a beautiful girl from $6.50-20USD. If you're not into that, then I suggest going somewhere else. It's not a place to come for TLN, and it's not a place to come for GFE. Again, I don't get why someone would come here for those things when you can go to Colombia, Brasil, etc, etc. Just read the Rio thread, as crappy as the exchange rate is, guys are still getting R150-200 all nighters, thats only $75-100 USD, and the girls are hotter than here, and actually *want* to do TLN.

I think Doombringer wrote a report on TLN a while back, mentioning how crappy it is in this county. I don't have time to search for his post now, but you might want to do a search on his handle. He's a local so he knows what he's talking about.
[QUOTE=Almotu]
BTW, just curious . . how much does a normal office secretary earn per week in Ecuador? a waitress? etc.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure of the exact minimum wage, but I knew a girl (non-pro) who worked at Supermaxi (the largest gocery store chain in this country) as a cashier, and she made $150 A MONTH. Not sure if that was for a part-time or full-time salary, though.

Ezinho,

You definately hit the nail on the head with your post. I was one of the guys that asked about TLN before I went to Ecuador. I am a rookie monger that only had been to Brazil and enjoyed the TLN and non-pro (semi-pro? ) experience. After reading the postings here and in the other forums for that matter, I had my own theory about why it isn't mentioned. Once getting to Ecuador and learning the "ways of the Ecuador monger". LOL. I understood even more. I think your post should be put in the "reports of distinction" section if for no other reason but the fact you answer the TLN question pretty thoroughly. I think it would be a great help for those new to mongering in Ecuador.

I did offer my opinion about girls coming to the room but I was not even thinking about TLN (I guess subconsciously I have ruled out TLN too). I was thinking of an hour or two in the comfort of one's room. Being able to take a shower with them or offering a bite to eat is just something of interest to me. Also, I'm a big guy and some of those rooms were tiny! I bumped more body parts getting my pants down and that brings up another thing. I would like to be able to put my pants on the floor and not worry about DNA deposits or a few critters coming back with me. LOL. Hopefully, I did not mislead anyone about TLN experiences.

Again, myself and some friends will be back in Quito and Guayaquil in late May. I look forward to meeting and mongering with those of you here in this forum, especially those that are experienced in the Ecuador scene. Guayaquil is first on the list and we intend on discovering AT LEAST one unmentioned place and reporting on the places that have already been mentioned. LOL. If any of you guys are avaliable, let me know and we can make it a group effort! Be safe all.

Dpilzbo

I'm planning a side-trip to Quito from Rio de Janeiro. Probably 10 days max.

Plenty of Rio experience and general mongering but never been to Ecuador before.

General recommendations would be much appreciated (much useful stuff on here already, still working thru it).

Esp -

Best airlines for a good price between Rio & Quito

Good budget accommodation in Quito. I l'd like easy access to budget P4P but also some convenience in getting the best out of non-mongering aspects of teh city.

What to ask for in terms of a map in a bookshop. A-Z means zilch abroad. In Rio, for instance, the equivalent is a streetguide called 'Ruas' which has every street.

Where's the best place to get small bills? Are they easy to obtain?

Cheers :-)

Still working thru Tungurahua's excellent report, found the map details among other things. Guess Gringoland sounds best for first visit to get to know the place. Undecided whether to book flight Rio-Q in advance or not, or which airlines. Q sounds pretty tempting so I might need to knock another week off the Brasil sojourn!

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I'm planning a side-trip to Quito from Rio de Janeiro. Probably 10 days max.

Plenty of Rio experience and general mongering but never been to Ecuador before.

General recommendations would be much appreciated (much useful stuff on here already, still working thru it).

Esp -

Best airlines for a good price between Rio & Quito

Good budget accommodation in Quito. I l'd like easy access to budget P4P but also some convenience in getting the best out of non-mongering aspects of teh city.

What to ask for in terms of a map in a bookshop. A-Z means zilch abroad. In Rio, for instance, the equivalent is a streetguide called 'Ruas' which has every street.

Where's the best place to get small bills? Are they easy to obtain?

Cheers :-)[/QUOTE]
Hey Christopherd, you've asked some good questions here. First of all, keep in mind that you have to pay an air departure tax everytime you fly out of Ecuador, which was $37.90 USD as of a couple weeks ago. So you might want to factor that into your flight expenses. Also, Brasil requires a yellow fever vaccine from anyone that has been in Ecuador the last 90 days, just something to remember if you want entry back into Brasil.

As for the price of the ticket, I'm no travel agent, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it would probably be cheaper to fly to Miami than to Quito from Rio. Inter-continental South American flights are quite expensive, especially once you add up all the taxes and airport fees each country has. The best advice I can give for the lowest price is just to search the internet, or perhaps check out some travel agencies once you are in Rio.

As far as the *quickest* flight, I know Avianca has a Rio to Quito flight, with a stop in Bogota. That would probably be the quickest flight (unless it has an overnight stop in BOG). Copa Airlines also has a flight, but you would have to backtrack a little with a stop in Panama City. You might want to check out LanChile as well. I think that's probably it though, without having to make a ridiculous amount of stops and plane changes.

Let's see, what else...as for a map, you can go into almost any travel agency in Quito and they will be more than happy to give you a free map of the city. And for small bills, your best bet might be to change your 20's at a Casino, there are a few around Gringolandia. They always have change. But definately do change all your large bills, any chance you get. I once bought 80 cents worth of food at a Supermarket, and when I saw all the loose change in the cash register, I decided to use a twenty to pay for it; I've never seen a cashier so pissed off in my life! But there's nothing worse than going into a 700 penny casa and finding out they "don't have change". Yeah right.

Any other info you need should be found on the board. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]Hey Christopherd, you've asked some good questions here. First of all, keep in mind that you have to pay an air departure tax everytime you fly out of Ecuador, which was $37.90 USD as of a couple weeks ago. So you might want to factor that into your flight expenses. Also, Brasil requires a yellow fever vaccine from anyone that has been in Ecuador the last 90 days, just something to remember if you want entry back into Brasil.

As for the price of the ticket, I'm no travel agent, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it would probably be cheaper to fly to Miami than to Quito from Rio. Inter-continental South American flights are quite expensive, especially once you add up all the taxes and airport fees each country has. The best advice I can give for the lowest price is just to search the internet, or perhaps check out some travel agencies once you are in Rio.

As far as the *quickest* flight, I know Avianca has a Rio to Quito flight, with a stop in Bogota. That would probably be the quickest flight (unless it has an overnight stop in BOG). Copa Airlines also has a flight, but you would have to backtrack a little with a stop in Panama City. You might want to check out LanChile as well. I think that's probably it though, without having to make a ridiculous amount of stops and plane changes.

Let's see, what else...as for a map, you can go into almost any travel agency in Quito and they will be more than happy to give you a free map of the city. And for small bills, your best bet might be to change your 20's at a Casino, there are a few around Gringolandia. They always have change. But definately do change all your large bills, any chance you get. I once bought 80 cents worth of food at a Supermarket, and when I saw all the loose change in the cash register, I decided to use a twenty to pay for it; I've never seen a cashier so pissed off in my life! But there's nothing worse than going into a 700 penny casa and finding out they "don't have change". Yeah right.

Any other info you need should be found on the board. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Hey there, thanks for that! I would have missed the yellow fever thing so will check that out see if I can get it before going. The small change thing is a pain in lots of places - it's always my first job of the day in Rio. I've found a map name from the long 'fuck clubs' post but I'll try the freebie first. I like a complete A-Z for finding thise small roads that aren't marked on the tourist guides - and the big ones often include bus routes too.

One other thing - some non-mongering info - my lonely planet recommends a train de diablo ride that goes up into the mountains. Anyone know how far (time wise etc) that is from Quito?

Thanks again, guys

Thanks for your informative reply to my post. Obviously, the GFE feeling is different for everybody. But can I get PSE with a lot of DFK & BBBJ in the casas? My least favorite four words in the world is probably "No Kissing, no like." LOL

What is the deal with this Airline? I think there is mention that they are joining the OneWorld Alliance. Can this mean co-share flights with AA from American cities? Anyone know how their service is?

[QUOTE=Almotu]Thanks for your informative reply to my post. Obviously, the GFE feeling is different for everybody. But can I get PSE with a lot of DFK & BBBJ in the casas? My least favorite four words in the world is probably "No Kissing, no like." LOL[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl. If you invest some time in them, you'll get more. Helps if you can speak at least a little spanish also.

How much is a penny?

I thought Ecuador only uses US dollars, but many uses "penny". The Sucre was eliminated 2000.

How much is a penny. Confused!

I'm making my first trip to Ecuador on the 12 of may for a week. I'm flying in from Colombia. I'm assuming from what I've read that cross-country travel between major cities isn't the big concern that it is in Colombia. It looks like the border towns around Colombia in the north are the major place to watch out for. Am I correct?

I have taken buses in CR, DR, Nicaragua and other places and had no problem. I am just being extra cautious

Recommendations for altitude sickness in terms of medicines, etc.?

Looking forward to Ecuador.

David B.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Hey there, thanks for that! I would have missed the yellow fever thing so will check that out see if I can get it before going.[/QUOTE]BTW. Just incase someone else is wondering about yellow fever. It's a multi-shot series that you have to take over a 4-6 month period. You can take a minimum of 2 of the 3 shots required and be up in the mid 90% innoculation range. 1 shot is around 40% if I recall. I took 2 out of 3 rounds and did the research on it ahead of time and found out the 3rd shot only added a few more percent of protection. I didn't get that one. At $150 per shot in the US, it's expensive.

I had to get it because I have been to Colombia and wanted to enter Thailand which also requires the yellow fever card. Hope this helps someone.

David B.

[QUOTE=Dpilzbo]I did offer my opinion about girls coming to the room but I was not even thinking about TLN (I guess subconsciously I have ruled out TLN too). I was thinking of an hour or two in the comfort of one's room. [/QUOTE]I personally find it difficult to sleep with a stranger I just met. It takes a few nights with a GFE for me to get comfortable. I worry about being robbed probably most of all. Learned to hide things in the room very well.

It's interesting how different people view this. I prefer the GFE that likes other girls so I have the comfort of one I know. And I can still play with other girls.

I am heading back to Colombia on the 4th of May and then I will be in Quito on the 12th. I'm looking forward to seeing how that city compares to other places I have been. The girls seem a lot more open to GFE than other places from what I've read here.

Is it my imagination, or are the girls a bit on the heavier side on average in Quito? I have read a lot of reports and seen a lot of ecuador pictures. If so, you think it's because it's colder there?

David B

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Is it my imagination, or are the girls a bit on the heavier side on average in Quito? I have read a lot of reports and seen a lot of ecuador pictures. If so, you think it's because it's colder there?

David B[/QUOTE]Starch heavy diet. lots of rice and potatoes in the locals diet here since their really cheap. A lunch at the majority of the places, even dinner for that matter is only $1. Average menial worker salary is about $200 a month. So cheap filling food is the priority. Plus i'd imagine not exercising and genetics.

[QUOTE=Mraughh]Starch heavy diet. lots of rice and potatoes in the locals diet here since their really cheap. A lunch at the majority of the places, even dinner for that matter is only $1. Average menial worker salary is about $200 a month. So cheap filling food is the priority. Plus i'd imagine not exercising and genetics.[/QUOTE]But they get plenty of exercise :) I know I drop a few pounds every time I go.

David B.

[QUOTE=Mraughh]Starch heavy diet. lots of rice and potatoes in the locals diet here since their really cheap. A lunch at the majority of the places, even dinner for that matter is only $1. Average menial worker salary is about $200 a month. So cheap filling food is the priority. Plus i'd imagine not exercising and genetics.[/QUOTE]I didn't think it was my imagination. The thin chicks from Colombia must be a real hit there. Could charge a bit more :)

Took various advice here and got plenty of small change ($1's and $5's) and plenty of rubber.

I might stay in Quito much longer if it turns out to be better and cheaper than Cartagena. It sounds like it's a lot cheaper -- have to look around for a better deal on hotel though.

David B.

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I didn't think it was my imagination. The thin chicks from Colombia must be a real hit there. Could charge a bit more :)

Took various advice here and got plenty of small change ($1's and $5's) and plenty of rubber.

I might stay in Quito much longer if it turns out to be better and cheaper than Cartagena. It sounds like it's a lot cheaper -- have to look around for a better deal on hotel though.

David B.[/QUOTE]I find that Guayaquil and other costa chicas are pretty slender, and the majority of the ones in CR and guajira are slender.

Post #46 in the travel and announcment thread has a website with alot of hotels and hostels to give you directions and cheaper prices. Taxi's can be kind of expensive here if you arent careful. The flipside being that bussing is cheap but time consuming and the Eco-via you have to be careful about pickpockets.

[QUOTE=Mraughh]I find that Guayaquil and other costa chicas are pretty slender, and the majority of the ones in CR and guajira are slender.

Post #46 in the travel and announcment thread has a website with alot of hotels and hostels to give you directions and cheaper prices. Taxi's can be kind of expensive here if you arent careful. The flipside being that bussing is cheap but time consuming and the Eco-via you have to be careful about pickpockets.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which, it appears to be that $2 to $5 is a typical fare around Quito. Is this accurate?

David B.

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Speaking of which, it appears to be that $2 to $5 is a typical fare around Quito. Is this accurate?

David B.[/QUOTE]

yeah pretty much. at night it costs more since they dont use meters then. for instance, from the central historic district to mid town can run from 3.50 to 6+ depending on traffic and how fast the cabbies drive during the day.

the meters start at $.35 and increase both from time and driving.

for examples though at night, i've been quoted $15-$20 from the airport to cumbaya. that would be no more than $10. I keep track of what the daytime costs are for where I go and use those rates when I bargain with the cabbies at night. If they refuse to bargain, just get out of the cab, you'll find another easy or the cabbie will agree to your price.

Also remember that the trolley(25 cents) runs until 12 midnight. When I was staying in the centro historico I used to take the trolley to la mariscal then cab it back. The only set back you might have is walking from 10 de augusto down to amazonas. After 8pm those little streets can be very empty. However some have a few people...try to stick to the more populated areas. Amazonas and the surrounding area can be very sketchy even one block away from all the action of gringolandia.

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I'm making my first trip to Ecuador on the 12 of may for a week. I'm flying in from Colombia. I'm assuming from what I've read that cross-country travel between major cities isn't the big concern that it is in Colombia. It looks like the border towns around Colombia in the north are the major place to watch out for. Am I correct?

I have taken buses in CR, DR, Nicaragua and other places and had no problem. I am just being extra cautious

Recommendations for altitude sickness in terms of medicines, etc.?

Looking forward to Ecuador.

David B.[/QUOTE]

David,

Hope this helps! If you have been to Bogota, or Denver or any city that high up and did not suffer Altitude sickness no need to worry about Quito! I'm 44 and a heavy smoker and have not suffered from altitude sickness! My problem has been getting a good night sleep, and walking up a flight of stairs.

Taxi, I have never paid more then $5 buck night or late night. The guys at the Airport might try to charge you more but if you really want to save a buck or two walk out of the airport towards the Domestic Terminal then walk across the street and hail a taxi there! From the Airport to the Sheraton I paid like $2.50 I think!

Money: Yes carry small bills, must places will not have change for a $20, even most large companies will not change or accept a $50 or a $100!

Price of Chica's 60% less then Cartgena, but you get what you pay for!!!! You can find some hot ons that is for sure at a price of $15 to $20!

Hope your Espanol is past the tourist level, because you'll need it trying to find these damn Casas! I usually stay at the Hotel Eugenia, and not untill my third trip did I run across a casa two doors down, my Nephew was staying at the Hotel Cuba and again two doors down was another one! Chica's in Quito are a bit heaver then their Costal Eucadorian counterparts! And compared to Colombia Chica's sorry but no way can they compare to Colombianas!

The best looking women in Ecuador hands down are from Portoviejo, that is where my girl is from, and I'm sure most of the senior Ecuador members will tell you the same thing!

You can find Hotels in Quito from $10 and up, things are so cheap there 30% cheaper then Colombia I pamper myself and spend between $12 to $25 on the Coast and in Quito I spend $60 a night!

The whether in Quito is Cold does not go much past 70, and it is like a woman, you never know what she is going to do! It can be nice and sunny, then rain and cold, after the rain comes the FOG, then sun again, then rain, and more rain!

Travel to the coast takes 30 minutes anywhere in Ecuador, and cost around $120 round trip, the coast is much cheaper then Quito much cheaper!

Hope this helps!!

LP!

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Also remember that the trolley(25 cents) runs until 12 midnight. When I was staying in the centro historico I used to take the trolley to la mariscal then cab it back.[/QUOTE]The trolley is great, but be forewarned, it's a pickpocketers paradise when it's packed with passengers. I had my small digital camera ($350) pickpocketed out of my camera bag on my belt under my jacket. I've also caught guys unzipping my jacket pockets thinking that my notebook was my wallet.

It's best to ride the trolley during the off-peak hours.

Latina passion-

Hotels in guayaquil are not cheaper than quito. If you have experience on the coast it would be nice to have some information in the "other areas" section.
What cost you $120 airfare ? I think the closest beach to quito would be esmeraldas which I think is 3 hrs away.

Please correct me if Im wrong.


I agree the trolley is very busy and you will stand up for most of your ride but its a short ride to wherever. At least you only pay 25 cents for the suffering. I pay $2 a pop in NYC to sit next to hygiene catastrophes on the subway. I think the fare will rise again pretty soon.

* Never have anything accessible. Im sorry you lost your camera its very difficult to travel in the third world but it can be very rewarding as well.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Latina passion-

Hotels in guayaquil are not cheaper than quito. If you have experience on the coast it would be nice to have some information in the "other areas" section.
What cost you $120 airfare ? I think the closest beach to quito would be esmeraldas which I think is 3 hrs away.

Please correct me if Im wrong.


I agree the trolley is very busy and you will stand up for most of your ride but its a short ride to wherever. At least you only pay 25 cents for the suffering. I pay $2 a pop in NYC to sit next to hygiene catastrophes on the subway. I think the fare will rise again pretty soon.

* Never have anything accessible. Im sorry you lost your camera its very difficult to travel in the thirld world but it can be very rewarding as well.[/QUOTE]

30-40 minutes by plane from Quito to Guayaquil, Salinas, etc would be my guess is what he meant. Price sounds about right. VIP flies to both of those locations and they're now flying to Colombia also. Their office is located at the Quito airport. I enjoy flyiing with them, its a comfortable flight. Last I heard they have flights that go on Monday Wednesday and Friday to and from the coast.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Latina passion-

Hotels in guayaquil are not cheaper than quito. If you have experience on the coast it would be nice to have some information in the "other areas" section.
What cost you $120 airfare ? I think the closest beach to quito would be esmeraldas which I think is 3 hrs away.

Please correct me if Im wrong.


I agree the trolley is very busy and you will stand up for most of your ride but its a short ride to wherever. At least you only pay 25 cents for the suffering. I pay $2 a pop in NYC to sit next to hygiene catastrophes on the subway. I think the fare will rise again pretty soon.

* Never have anything accessible. Im sorry you lost your camera its very difficult to travel in the third world but it can be very rewarding as well.[/QUOTE]

I flew to Manta and Esmeraldas for $120 or a little less both times! As far as monger reports go not much to post, I am semi retired but I guess I owe at least a travel report! From Manta I drove to a small beach town called Crucita. Cabins where $12 bucks per person add a T.V. and it was $30 per night! The max I paid for food was $2.50 and a large beer was a buck, and a coke or bottle of water was 25 cents! Give me a few days and I will post a full report!

Jun. 22 - An Ecuadorean airline has come up with a risqué way of attracting customers - they have put models in lingerie in the aisles.

Ícaro airlines is putting underwear fashion parades on several national flights for a two-week special.

All passengers on Ecuador's most well-travelled route from the capital Quito to the port city of Guayaquil will be treated to a 10-minute sky-high show.


[url]http://www.reuters.com/news/video/videoStory?videoId=57842[/url]

Like Body Tech in Colombia?

I'm head to Quito in a couple of weeks, and am checking up on this thread to make sure I've got everything I need.

One thing that's caught my attention is the Brazil vaccination for yellow fever. I have a trip to Sao Paolo 2 1/2 months after this trip. Are they really going to deny me entry if I don't have it?

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I'm head to Quito in a couple of weeks, and am checking up on this thread to make sure I've got everything I need.

One thing that's caught my attention is the Brazil vaccination for yellow fever. I have a trip to Sao Paolo 2 1/2 months after this trip. Are they really going to deny me entry if I don't have it?[/QUOTE]

If they will, you wouldn't have time anyways. First two shots are 30 days apart if I recall correctly. The third is taken at the end of 6 months (from the first shot).

David B.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I'm head to Quito in a couple of weeks, and am checking up on this thread to make sure I've got everything I need.

One thing that's caught my attention is the Brazil vaccination for yellow fever. I have a trip to Sao Paolo 2 1/2 months after this trip. Are they really going to deny me entry if I don't have it?[/QUOTE]

"Coming to Brasil from Venezuela last year and from Colombia a few days ago I was asked to show my yellow fever vaccination.
I show other passengers detained for not having it and I am pretty sure Avianca got a fine too."

That was my post of 02/04/06 on the Rio forum.

According to the Varig personell a vaccination requirement commenced on 01/01/05.
I was going to fly from Rio to Caracas and back. So they told me that I should have a vaccination otherwise I could not return to Brasil without one and they suggested to have it right there at the airport of Rio which I did and got my vaccination card issued and stamped right away.
Just one shot.

El Greco

[QUOTE=El Greco]"Coming to Brasil from Venezuela last year and from Colombia a few days ago I was asked to show my yellow fever vaccination.
I show other passengers detained for not having it and I am pretty sure Avianca got a fine too."
[/QUOTE]

I'll be coming from the US on this trip, and not from South America. I went to Brazil in 2005, and don't recall having any checks on immunizations when I came at that time.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I'll be coming from the US on this trip, and not from South America. I went to Brazil in 2005, and don't recall having any checks on immunizations when I came at that time.[/QUOTE]

The whole vaccination issue was coming to Brazil from those Latin America countries not the USA.
Don't know about the necessary time interval but there must be one for sure.

El Greco

I just returned from Quito yesterday and wanted to share my experience with AMS. I had read up on the changes the higher alltitide can have on the body; headaches, shortness of breath, etc. I had opted to follow the recommendations of drinking a lot of water and taking aspirin. Upon my arrival in Quito I could definitely feel the effects of being winded just after getting off the plane. The next day I decided to descend a steep incline behind the Hotel Quito and upon going back up the stairs had to take rest breaks.

Now I'm no wuss, though I am 50 y.o., but walk the treadmill a couple times a week. I consider myself to be in fair shape. I had gotten accustomed to the change and walked several miles a day from the hotel to various parts of the city. I did have one trip to a much higher elevation, to 13K feet from the tram ride up to the mountian for a good view of the city below. Besides the temperature change, I was was obviously winded as well, but not to an unbearable point.

Now to my point. Upon my arrival back to Tampa, I experienced tightness in the chest and difficulty breathing. So much so that I thought I was going to pass out. I actually debated calling 911 (it was 2:30 a.m.). I did drive myself to the hospital where they ran an assortment of tests (chest x-ray, CT scan, EKG), only to provide me with an inhaler upon my release several hours later. The doctor had no clue as all the tests were negative. He figured it was just my body reacting to the climate/altitude change. I'm better now, but still have some chest tightness and wheezing breathing. That's gonna be one expensive inhaler!!

I was just wondering if anyone else had encountered anything similar upon their return?

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]If they will, you wouldn't have time anyways. First two shots are 30 days apart if I recall correctly. The third is taken at the end of 6 months (from the first shot).

[/QUOTE]

I got a shot yesterday, and as far as I can tell there is one, and only one shot. I think you have to take it 10-14 days before travel, at a minimum.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I got a shot yesterday, and as far as I can tell there is one, and only one shot. I think you have to take it 10-14 days before travel, at a minimum.[/QUOTE]
Jaimito is correct. There is only one shot for yellow fever. The protocol that Davidb3069 refers to is for Hepatitis B vaccine: 3 shots, first one, then the second after 30 days, then the 3rd after 6 months.

L

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Jaimito is correct. There is only one shot for yellow fever. The protocol that Davidb3069 refers to is for Hepatitis B vaccine: 3 shots, first one, then the second after 30 days, then the 3rd after 6 months.

L[/QUOTE]

You are correct. Yellow fever is only one shot. Hep B is what I was talking about. I commented on the wrong innoculation. I took them at the same time as they are both generally suggested for these countries.

David B.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]I just returned from Quito yesterday and wanted to share my experience with AMS. I had read up on the changes the higher alltitide can have on the body; headaches, shortness of breath, etc. I had opted to follow the recommendations of drinking a lot of water and taking aspirin. Upon my arrival in Quito I could definitely feel the effects of being winded just after getting off the plane. The next day I decided to descend a steep incline behind the Hotel Quito and upon going back up the stairs had to take rest breaks.

I was just wondering if anyone else had encountered anything similar upon their return?[/QUOTE]

I have been much more winded this time. I did not have a problem the last trip. I did put on a little weight between trips which I am sure is making a difference.

Upon return I did not have any problems related to altitude. I did bring a nasty cold back with me though that took a month to get over (cough).

David B.

Travelling to GYE for a one night stay and looking for place(s) to go. I see Calle 18, and Club Habana any others? I prefer take out and all nighters with one or two girls. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm a newbie and I'm headed down to quito in a couple of months, . Just wondering what all the abbreviations mean I. E. Gfe, BBBJ, etc.

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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Jaimito is correct. There is only one shot for yellow fever. The protocol that Davidb3069 refers to is for Hepatitis B vaccine: 3 shots, first one, then the second after 30 days, then the 3rd after 6 months.

L[/QUOTE]You should definetly get it.

Hep A - 2 shots, Hep B - 3 shots.

Hep A - this doc tell what to do if you are travelling soon:
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/NCIDOD/diseases/hepatitis/a/faqa.htm[/url]

General Info about A & B:
[url]http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4075abc.pdf[/url]

Better Website - Go Here:

[url]http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/destinationEcuador.aspx[/url]

I would get Hep A and Hep B vaccinations for sure.

This is a question for those of you residing in Ecuador.

Rafael Correa and his fellow party members appear emboldened by the latest election results, and it seems likely they will totally rewrite the Constitution. Do you think chica clubs will become a target?

If you're looking for the best bang for your buck, I'm convinced Ecuador is the best country for mongering in the Americas. However, I'm worried that places like la Calle 18 in Guayaquil and Barrio Los Tanques in Cuenca may soon be eliminated.

Any thoughts?

I've been living here for 4 years and I doubt he will bother with the casas since he has been know to frequent quite a few of the ladies sneeking them into the Hilton Colon in Quito at 6:00am.

He is too busy making promises to the poor in order to win votes, since they can't afford to go to even the $7 chongos it isn't that important for him.

If he eliminates any of them it's because they didn't pay the propina to the local cops.

[QUOTE=Acuerpado]This is a question for those of you residing in Ecuador.

Rafael Correa and his fellow party members appear emboldened by the latest election results, and it seems likely they will totally rewrite the Constitution. Do you think chica clubs will become a target?

If you're looking for the best bang for your buck, I'm convinced Ecuador is the best country for mongering in the Americas. However, I'm worried that places like la Calle 18 in Guayaquil and Barrio Los Tanques in Cuenca may soon be eliminated.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I would seriously doubt that casas would ever be targeted. The economic fallout from a move like that would be bad. They, like many other countries,
know sex tourists (as well as the locals) spend a large amount of $$ in those locations. Impacted are restaurants, bars, taxes at the airport, etc.

What they would likely target (if anything) would be the street hookers. You can see signs around town (especially in gringolandia) asking people not to do business with the hookers in the streets. Out of sight, out of mind would be my thought. I have personally witnessed them on more than one trip rounding up the hookers and putting them in the back of trucks to haul to the station.

People have been asking this question for many years in other places such as Costa Rica. The same answers were given there. HOOKERS are big business and pay the bills for a lot of families.

David

Guys,

I been hearing that getting a permanent visa for forreigners can be a real pain in the A.ss.

Is this true?? Anyone experiences?

TIA

Johan

[QUOTE=Johan007]Guys,

I been hearing that getting a permanent visa for forreigners can be a real pain in the A.ss.

Is this true?? Anyone experiences?

TIA

Johan[/QUOTE]Might try a school visa, open a business, or shack up with a local chick (really).

When I got my permanent Visa #9-II in 2003 you needed to open a revolving CD in the Central Bank for $1, 400. But since they elected the leftist son of a ***** Corea they raise the amount required to $35, 000. They are out of their friggin mind if they think anyone will deposit that amount of money in a country that has been going downhill.

I just left the country and have no intentions of returning after being there for 4 years. The economy is in shambles, there is no foreign investment coming in, no one has money to spend except for the rich, corruption is higher than ever despite reports to the contrary and especially if you are a foreigner (your costs are 3 times more than an Ecuadoran would pay) and banks are only in it to make money charging outrageous interest rates which if they were in place in any other country would be considered illegal. The word MAFIA comes to mind

I would seriously think twice about considering living there permanently at this time. Ecuador is becoming another Venezuela and Bolivia, all you need to do is follow what happens in Venezuela to see the same thing is starting in Ecuador. What a pitty because it is a beautiful country and I loved the way of life, but no more! If I wanted to live in a socialist country I would have moved to Cuba instead.

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Might try a school visa, open a business, or shack up with a local chick (really).[/QUOTE]"shack up". As in get marry you mean? Errrr HELL NO! Invest 35. 000 usd in this country? Fuck NO. ! Surely I would loose it all. Knowing these corrupt burocratic assholes.

Anyways reading the info given by Globe Trotter and reading up by myself lately I surely ahve NO more intrest in moving to ecuador. These lefties assholes are ruining it. :.(

Sounds like Chavez is getting his hands on ecuador as well. As on Bolivia.

Well lukely he got booted out with his vote off last week.

Thanks for the infos guys.

OK back to Panama.

Johan

[QUOTE=Johan007]Guys,

I been hearing that getting a permanent visa for foreigners can be a real pain in the A.ss.

Is this true?? Anyone experiences?

TIA

Johan[/QUOTE]Yes. You are correct, its not worth the hassle. Also the problem having a tourist card in Ecuador is that its valad for 90 days in which you can extend it for 3 more months. The problem comes after the 6 months stay (3 months + 3 months extension). You have to leave the country until the next year.

Its not like Peru where you can keep repeating the process continuously. Also (unlike Peru) the customs people are not super friendly.

There is some kind of imitation site going on, I know alot of people have been asking about [url]www.firstclass.com.ec[/url] but there seems to be another imitation site [url]www.escortsfirstclass.com[/url] but it has better women and seems to be more "complete" site anyway this is for all of you that like to roll in "benzes" with Rollexes and all that, I on the other hand will stick to the "chongos" for $7.
Just my $0.02 in

Peace out.

[QUOTE=Johan007]"shack up". As in get marry you mean? Errrr HELL NO! Invest 35. 000 usd in this country? Fuck NO. ! Surely I would loose it all. Knowing these corrupt burocratic assholes.

Anyways reading the info given by Globe Trotter and reading up by myself lately I surely ahve NO more intrest in moving to ecuador. These lefties assholes are ruining it. :.(

Sounds like Chavez is getting his hands on ecuador as well. As on Bolivia.

Well lukely he got booted out with his vote off last week.

Thanks for the infos guys.

OK back to Panama.

Johan[/QUOTE]Here's what I did after I ran out of the 180 days. I ended up going to Lima, visited the ecuadorian embassy and applied for the Visa type 12-10 (called the tourism/business visa).

I just had to show proof of economic support (like a bank statement) paid 60 bucks for the processing fee. Now I have another 180 days of stay.

Ok........................help me make a choice. I' on the bubble of taking a trip there for 3 days before heading back to Rio. Is it really worth it? I can't get the smell of those centro casas out of my system. I need to get back and do some real damage. What do you fellas reckon?

ryjer

I think Tung has retired from writing on this site........

[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Ok........................help me make a choice. I' on the bubble of taking a trip there for 3 days before heading back to Rio. Is it really worth it? I can't get the smell of those centro casas out of my system. I need to get back and do some real damage. What do you fellas reckon?

ryjer[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Ok........................help me make a choice. I' on the bubble of taking a trip there for 3 days before heading back to Rio. Is it really worth it? I can't get the smell of those centro casas out of my system. I need to get back and do some real damage. What do you fellas reckon?

ryjer[/QUOTE]
For just three days, I don't think it's really worth it. Keep in mind that the altitude in Quito is over 9,200 feet, almost twice as high as Denver, Colorado. So it may take you a couple of days just to get accustomed to the altitude. I guess it depends how you react to it, have you been to other high altitude cities like La Paz or Bogota, for example? By the time you get comfortable with the lack of oxygen, it may be time for you to leave.

Also, the casas are spread out all over the city, so expect to either spend a lot of time on the bus, or spend a lot of money on cabs to go all over the city.

If you can stay for at least a week, it might be a good idea. But just three days? Just stay put in Rio and spend some quality time at Vila Mimosa.

[QUOTE=Saeta119]Here's what I did after I ran out of the 180 days. I ended up going to Lima, visited the ecuadorian embassy and applied for the Visa type 12-10 (called the tourism/business visa).

I just had to show proof of economic support (like a bank statement) paid 60 bucks for the processing fee. Now I have another 180 days of stay.[/QUOTE]

Did they give you at least something temporary on the spot? Or did you have to wait to come back in until they issued a visa? Is $5,000-$10,000 in cash enough to show economic support?

Visas here are a pain in the a@S. I was going to try for the equiv. of the residency here but they wanted the $35,000. Next best is the business visa from what I've gathered.

Opening a business here according to the us state department is very risky. They can convert what would normally be a civil matter in some type of business dispute into a criminal case and arrest you.

Sounds about as risky as driving a car here. An accident leading to injury or death is another automatic arrest according to the state department. Sounds like Mexico.

David

[QUOTE=Ezinho]For just three days, I don't think it's really worth it. Keep in mind that the altitude in Quito is over 9,200 feet, almost twice as high as Denver, Colorado. So it may take you a couple of days just to get accustomed to the altitude. I guess it depends how you react to it, have you been to other high altitude cities like La Paz or Bogota, for example? By the time you get comfortable with the lack of oxygen, it may be time for you to leave.

Also, the casas are spread out all over the city, so expect to either spend a lot of time on the bus, or spend a lot of money on cabs to go all over the city.

If you can stay for at least a week, it might be a good idea. But just three days? Just stay put in Rio and spend some quality time at Vila Mimosa.[/QUOTE]

I agree. 3 days doesn't do this place justice. That's assuming you aren't sick from the altitude.

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Did they give you at least something temporary on the spot? Or did you have to wait to come back in until they issued a visa? Is $5,000-$10,000 in cash enough to show economic support?

Visas here are a pain in the a@S. I was going to try for the equiv. of the residency here but they wanted the $35,000. Next best is the business visa from what I've gathered.

Opening a business here according to the us state department is very risky. They can convert what would normally be a civil matter in some type of business dispute into a criminal case and arrest you.

Sounds about as risky as driving a car here. An accident leading to injury or death is another automatic arrest according to the state department. Sounds like Mexico.

David[/QUOTE]I had to go back the next day in order to get the visa. Then I was told that within 30 days of entering the country I need to show up at the ministerio del exterior, something about having to sign up some papers and other stuff, I don't know much about it since I'll be going to quito next week to do this. ugh a pain in the butt.

yeah the accident thing, if you have some money you can get away with murder literally here, a lot of people if they get into a car accident, they just run away and usually the cops don't do much about following up leads.

[QUOTE=Saeta119]I had to go back the next day in order to get the visa. Then I was told that within 30 days of entering the country I need to show up at the ministerio del exterior, something about having to sign up some papers and other stuff, I don't know much about it since I'll be going to quito next week to do this. ugh a pain in the butt.[/QUOTE]

How long ago was that when you got your visa? Trying to figure out if it's still applicable.

Also on other sites I got to know that getting a perm visa in Ec. Is a pain in the Ass if you are a foreigner.

In many SA countries when you marry a woman there or make her legaly a child (you have to recognize the kid at a notary office) you can get some sort of perm visa.

In Brasil, Colombia, Peru, the DR and also in Paraguay this works. So I don't know for Ecuador.

Suerte

Johan

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]How long ago was that when you got your visa? Trying to figure out if it's still applicable.[/QUOTE]I got it on february 20th, 2008 (couple of weeks ago :) ) I was just in quito this past friday having to register at the ministerio del exterior, ahhh ecuadorian goverment offices are a trip, took me a half day to get that done (plus $10) ugh.

[QUOTE=Johan007]Also on other sites I got to know that getting a perm visa in Ec. Is a pain in the Ass if you are a foreigner.

In many SA countries when you marry a woman there or make her legaly a child (you have to recognize the kid at a notary office) you can get some sort of perm visa.

In Brasil, Colombia, Peru, the DR and also in Paraguay this works. So I don't know for Ecuador.

Suerte

Johan[/QUOTE]Yeah, but honestly my suggestion is that you go to the immigration offices and ask about:

Visa 12-X - tourism/business for countries that have signed pacts with Ecuador (costs $60).

Visa 12-IX - toursim/business for countries that haven't signed pacts with Ecuador (costs 230).

Since we're on the topic of Visas, anyone have a name of a english speaking lawyer that deals with visas here? Law is extremely complex to discuss in Spanish - it's so verbose. I've done it up until now but I always feel like I'm missing a big part of the conversation.

I have an american friend of mine that is getting a citizenship this week he went to the Law offices of Flaconi & Puig located in Quito if anybody needs any info on this issue PM me.

After looking at the cost comparisons of flights to SA vs Asia, the cost of living/ hotels, and the overpriced chicas, I as WHY GO. I can find SW girls just as nice here in t;he states for 75-100 ST.
While is it a bit risky, I still find it way better than going down to SA and spending thousands for shit I could get here. Shit with the inflation and everything else it better be a hell of a good deal for me to get out of USA for mongering purposes.
IMHO Col Bogs 70.00 chica seems like a complete rip-off.
Cheers
Hummer

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]After looking at the cost comparisons of flights to SA vs Asia, the cost of living/ hotels, and the overpriced chicas, I as WHY GO. I can find SW girls just as nice here in t;he states for 75-100 ST.
While is it a bit risky, I still find it way better than going down to SA and spending thousands for shit I could get here. Shit with the inflation and everything else it better be a hell of a good deal for me to get out of USA for mongering purposes.
IMHO Col Bogs 70.00 chica seems like a complete rip-off.
Cheers
Hummer[/QUOTE]

Many guys travel down here because we CAN'T STAND american chicks. We like the latinas and the lifestyle. At least for me, the cost is really the last consideration. More important (at least to me) is what the city/country offers me. The american chicks here are safe with me: I could care less about them. I know a lot of guys feel the same way.

David

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]After looking at the cost comparisons of flights to SA vs Asia, the cost of living/ hotels, and the overpriced chicas, I as WHY GO. I can find SW girls just as nice here in t;he states for 75-100 ST.
While is it a bit risky, I still find it way better than going down to SA and spending thousands for shit I could get here. Shit with the inflation and everything else it better be a hell of a good deal for me to get out of USA for mongering purposes.
IMHO Col Bogs 70.00 chica seems like a complete rip-off.
Cheers
Hummer[/QUOTE]


WTF is this Guy talking about the only expensives places to monger in SA are basicly Argentina and Brazil because Peru, Bolivia Even Colombia you can find from 6-15$ *****houses a round trip flight from Miami to Ecuador costs about 300-500 add the price of a $8-10 hostal a day $2 meals 3 times a day about $10 to get around in taxis. For about 1k you can fuck about 10 to 20 women on a weekend trip of course you are going to have to familiarize yourself on how the locals travel and all that if you for to the typical shearaton's and howard johnson you are going to get fucked up and pay thousands of dollars I like to see anybody find a deal like that picking up crack *****s down the block.

Best regards
Doombringer321.

[QUOTE=Doombringer321]WTF is this Guy talking about the only expensives places to monger in SA are basicly Argentina and Brazil because Peru, Bolivia Even Colombia you can find from 6-15$ *****houses a round trip flight from Miami to Ecuador costs about 300-500 add the price of a $8-10 hostal a day $2 meals 3 times a day about $10 to get around in taxis. For about 1k you can fuck about 10 to 20 women on a weekend trip of course you are going to have to familiarize yourself on how the locals travel and all that if you for to the typical shearaton's and howard johnson you are going to get fucked up and pay thousands of dollars I like to see anybody find a deal like that picking up crack *****s down the block.

Best regards
Doombringer321.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I was being nice with my response. Once you get settled in here, it's really not expensive. It's cheaper than the US. Where can you rent a $300 3-bedroom, 2 bath in the US?

And the quality of the girls is 1000% better than the hos in the US. Hell, I can drop $200-500 in a strip club in the US and not even get laid. Here you could get laid 25-50 times for that.

Maybe he's part of the christian uprising here :)

David

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I agree. I was being nice with my response. Once you get settled in here, it's really not expensive. It's cheaper than the US. Where can you rent a $300 3-bedroom, 2 bath in the US?

And the quality of the girls is 1000% better than the hos in the US. Hell, I can drop $200-500 in a strip club in the US and not even get laid. Here you could get laid 25-50 times for that.

Maybe he's part of the christian uprising here :)

David[/QUOTE]If read some of the posts on the colombian threads, you'll notice that some people speak of paying $75 and higher for a session, and yes for that price it's not worth a trip.

Mabye and I'm just speculating, he's posting the same thing on all S.A. threads? dunno, but yeah it's obvious he hasn't done his research about the $6 - $10 chongos

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]Many guys travel down here because we CAN'T STAND american chicks.

David[/QUOTE]This reasoning applies to me. But not for american girls, but for Belgium girls. (I am from Belgium). I think that latinas chiks are more passionate.

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]I agree. I was being nice with my response. Once you get settled in here, it's really not expensive. It's cheaper than the US. Where can you rent a $300 3-bedroom, 2 bath in the US?

And the quality of the girls is 1000% better than the hos in the US. Hell, I can drop $200-500 in a strip club in the US and not even get laid. Here you could get laid 25-50 times for that.

Maybe he's part of the christian uprising here :)

David[/QUOTE]And that's why I like Ecuador.

Marc :)

I never caught this when in Quito. But it certainly is relevant to the ongoing political developments of Ecuador.

[url]http://www.janes.com/news/security/countryrisk/iwr/iwr080411_1_n.shtml[/url]

11 April 2008

Event: Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa replaced his minister of defence and national police commander on 9 April as accusations of institutional collusion with foreign intelligence agencies plunged the armed forces and police into crisis. The joint chief of staff and the commanders of the army, navy and air force have also resigned.

Correa publicly accused on 6 April the security forces of being "taken over by the CIA", saying Ecuadorian military intelligence officers had passed information to the United States CIA that was subsequently shared with the Colombian government and used to target a raid against the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia: FARC) inside Ecuadorian territory on 1 March.

Correa is clearly using the crisis as a pretext for purging the armed forces and police and installing senior officers sympathetic to his political cause. It is also clear Quito is seeking to divert attention from a succession of embarrassing revelations in recent weeks of high-level Ecuadorian collusion with FARC.

Forecast: With Correa loyalists installed, the purge is now likely to extend further into the senior and middle ranks of the armed forces and police, with alleged links to foreign intelligence agencies used as a pretext for extending Correa's political control.

and

[url]http://www.viewswire.com/index.asp?layout=RKArticleVW3&article_id=1403241925&country_id=1790000179&refm=rkCtry&page_title=Latest%20alerts&rf=0[/url]

Summary: The recent removal of the most senior military and police commanders was a high-risk move by Ecuador’s president, Rafael Correa. If it succeeds, it could turn an international humiliation into a domestic political triumph, and help him to further consolidate his grip on power ahead of a constitutional referendum.

and

[url]http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2008/04/ecuadors_leader.html[/url]

For now, at least, the last word on the issue may rest with Mr. Ponce, the rumpled poet thrust into the public eye as Mr. Correa’s new defense minister.

In an interview in Quito, Mr. Ponce, 59, mentioned the moderately leftist governments of Brazil and Chile as potential partners for increased military cooperation, subtly suggesting a reluctance to depend heavily on Venezuelan aid, as countries like Bolivia have done. But he was also clear about relying far less on the United States.

“We must get past our legacy of relying too much on military relations with the United States, with President Bush showing little regard for national borders or sovereignty,” Mr. Ponce said. “The risk of remaining too close to such a partner is one of ideological contagion.”

I am thinking of wintering in Ecuador, say October to March. I live in Spain, but even here, the winters are too cold for me.

I would like to stay in a beach town, safe and friendly, where I can hire a girl or two to look after me, full time...in very way! I would prefer a couple of live-in chicas to visiting casas all the time. Hopefuly, that would be more fun, more regular, safer from a STD point-of-view for BBFS etc, and cheaper.

Any suggestions from you local experts? Is safety a problem though, for a blonde Spanish-speaking Englishman?

I am not into great nightlife; just a quiet life with good food, good wine, sunshine and lots of sex.

What should I pay for a modest house in a safe area and two girls each month. I am not rich - I would only have about 1000 euros amonth to spend.

Possible or a silly fantasy?

My perfect scenario would be to live on the edge of town somewhere; to have a scooter to get around (I like walking though, and the occasional taxi would be a fine alternative); to have two girls living me me for always-available fun. A fairly simple existance based on food, wine, sun and sex!

I don´t want a different girl every day, I was more thinking of paying them to live with me. A bit like a downmarket version of Hugh Hefner!

I am not a bar person, almost reclusive, in a way. To be hidden away in my private hedonistic pleasure palace.

Maybe rent a small cortijo with someone else and a few girls to have fun with.

Interested anyone?

I found new areas in the webwhere we mongers may "research" potential P4P action.

[url]www.quebarato.com.ec/relacionamientos.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.mundoanuncio.com/zona/ecuador_25/categoria/eroticos_profesionales_18.html[/url]

[url]http://www.adoos.ec/search?busqueda=0&province_id=x&subarea_id=&section_id=8&queryt=&query=&min_price=&max_price=&bedrooms=&category_id=823&district_id=&municipality_id=x&min_age=&max_age=&make_id=&model_id_value=&subcategory_id=&busqueda=1&subcategory_id=82311[/url]

These cites offer variety of services to different areas of the country

Hope you all enjoy

Best regards
Doombringer321.

People planning on traveling to Ecuador for more than 90 days need to do their homework before arriving. As of July 15, 2008, anyone that enters the country after June 20, 2008 cannot obtain a renewel 90 day Visa within the borders of Ecuador. You must leave the country first and obtain one outside. A story was in the El Comercio about it but I've been unable to find it. I have verified the details from other sources, however. Anyone from any country can now enter Ecuador without a Visa for up to 90 days. There have been changes to student, exchange, and other visas as well (I believe you have to obtain those before you arrive now).

David

For anyone going to Ecuador, there is a new law for tourist visas extensions as well!

We can no longer get a 90 day extension after our initial 90 days in Ecuador. Only Peruvians and colombians.

The only way anyone else can stay more than 90 days is get a 12-x visa. To get a 12-x visa within ecuador you will need an ecuadorian as your garantia and a copy of your bank account and a plane reservation.

I hear that if you go to Peru first you do not need the garantia (ecuadorian) but I don't know for sure. But I am sure of the part when you are within ecuador.

Vaughnyb

[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]For anyone going to Ecuador, there is a new law for tourist visas extensions as well!

We can no longer get a 90 day extension after our initial 90 days in Ecuador. Only Peruvians and colombians.

The only way anyone else can stay more than 90 days is get a 12-x visa. To get a 12-x visa within ecuador you will need an ecuadorian as your garantia and a copy of your bank account and a plane reservation.

I hear that if you go to Peru first you do not need the garantia (ecuadorian) but I don't know for sure. But I am sure of the part when you are within ecuador.

Vaughnyb[/QUOTE]

The 12-x (transient visa) is not being given out anymore according to a person I know that works in the visa migration office. Have you personally received this one in the last month? I managed to obtain a new temporary visa in the last 2 weeks... but I am married to an Ecuadorian and have a child with her. I am also processing my residency right now. They didn't issue me a 12-X, however, they issued me a 12-IX this time. He couldn't give me a 12-X because of the changes. The 12-IX is a tourist, business, and other special circumstances visa good for up to 180 days. The paperwork required for the 12-IX is a bit more involved than the 12-X.

You're probably referring to the Guarantia Economica in terms of a guarantee. They used to accept a copy of a few credit cards in lieu of the Guarantia Economia but since they don't issue the 12-X anymore, you have to have all the proper documents now (I just went through this).

If they issued you a 12-X, I would be highly surprised.

David

David or Vaughny,

Do you guys know what the reason was for this new law? It's not like there is a big rush of people that want to move to Ecuador. Why wouldn't they want people to come and stay in their country for an extended period of time and spend much needed money. Doesn't really make sense to me, but maybe there is a reason?

What I am wondering is, is it really worth it to go through the hassle of obtaining a guarantia and filling out all the forms or making a "visa run" to Peru, or would it just be easier (and maybe even cheaper) to just overstay your 90 day visa and then pay a fine when you leave? Does anyone know how much the fine is if you overstay?

Maybe I will find out next year if I go back to Ecuador!

[QUOTE=Ezinho]David or Vaughny,

Do you guys know what the reason was for this new law? It's not like there is a big rush of people that want to move to Ecuador. Why wouldn't they want people to come and stay in their country for an extended period of time and spend much needed money. Doesn't really make sense to me, but maybe there is a reason?

What I am wondering is, is it really worth it to go through the hassle of obtaining a guarantia and filling out all the forms or making a "visa run" to Peru, or would it just be easier (and maybe even cheaper) to just overstay your 90 day visa and then pay a fine when you leave? Does anyone know how much the fine is if you overstay?

Maybe I will find out next year if I go back to Ecuador![/QUOTE]The reason has to do with the new law where no visa is required to enter the country, you may have heard about it.

So what happens now is that you come in to the country without a need for a visa, not like almost 90% of people didn't do that to begin with.

But the problem that the country had now was that a LOT of people from other countries were coming and they were not tourists, I don't want to single out but I'm talking mainly about chinese, there were a couple of reports that last year there were like maybe 20,000 chinese people coming in, and now in 3 months the number is almost at 60,000.

I can tell you that this is true as 3 weeks ago I came back from Amsterdam and about 80% of the people in the plane were chinese.

The reason here I was told is that they are trying to find different ways to make it to the good USA, so from the report I saw they come to ecuador, travel by bus to venezuela and then somehow they make it to guatemala and then off to mexico.

Recently there was a news article that about 90 chinese people were deported from colombia to ecuador.

When laws are made here, people don't really put too much effort on them, so they figured ok we let anyone in for 90 days but after that you pretty much have to leave the country.

it's a good thing I found out about this issue as I will need to figure out a way to deal with this mess.

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[QUOTE=Ezinho]David or Vaughny,

Do you guys know what the reason was for this new law? It's not like there is a big rush of people that want to move to Ecuador. Why wouldn't they want people to come and stay in their country for an extended period of time and spend much needed money. Doesn't really make sense to me, but maybe there is a reason?

What I am wondering is, is it really worth it to go through the hassle of obtaining a guarantia and filling out all the forms or making a "visa run" to Peru, or would it just be easier (and maybe even cheaper) to just overstay your 90 day visa and then pay a fine when you leave? Does anyone know how much the fine is if you overstay?

Maybe I will find out next year if I go back to Ecuador![/QUOTE]

In general, I believe countries adopt these types of rules to minimize the number of people that become "public charges" - ie: they run out of money and live on the streets and cost the country money in services.

Overstaying your visa can result in:

a $200 fine
deportation from the country
being barred from re-entry for up to 10 years.
being denied other visas

David

Here's an interesting story about Ecuador's move to bio-metric scanning of fingerprints starting in January for all foreigners in order to keep the riff-raff out:

[url]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-11/25/content_10409905.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.rgemonitor.com/latam-monitor/255019/the_curious_case_of_ecuadors_default__and_why_it_matters[/url]

Thomas Trebat | Jan 12, 2009

One of the questions concerning Latin America in 2009 is whether or not the region will be plunged into yet another dismal round of debt defaults as commodity prices stay low and foreign capital inflows remain frozen solid.

For the skeptics, Ecuador is Exhibit A. In the context of a region that gave birth to the term “serial defaulter”, Ecuador’s mid-December decision to default on its bonded debt is an alarming development.

Unless you happen to own the bonds (and at this point only the most risk-addled investors probably do), ignoring the debt dustup in Ecuador is easy. Hasn’t President Rafael Correa, that scourge of the neo-liberals, been itching to do just this for years? Besides, the amount of bonded debt involved - $3.6 billion, at most, including bonds that Ecuador has probably repurchased – is not a systemic threat. For the casual observer, the action by Ecuador has a sort of hard-to-fathom, out of the blue character. After all, Ecuador was sitting on international reserves of $6 billion at the time it declared default, facing annual interest payments on the debt of less than $400 million. In these circumstances, what really could be gained compared to the costs of default?

Tempting as it is to forget about Ecuador, what happens next there matters a lot for Latin America and for the world. Why? First, dollarized Ecuador really has managed to get its political and economic act more or less together in recent years, say what you will about President Correa. Second, the financial pressures that comprise the default backdrop in Ecuador are similar throughout Latin America. Every Latin American country faces tough choices about how to react to terms of trade losses and the sudden stop in capital flows. Ecuador just happens to be one of the more vulnerable of the Latin economies and it may have in this case made a wrong choice.

We should not look upon the drama in Ecuador as morality play. Yes, the government has argued that the debt is “illegal” and “illegitimate” on the basis of a government study which, it seems safe to say, would be unlikely to fare well in impartial international arbitration. (President Correa, who is running for re-election in April, has warned the people of Ecuador to be prepared for painful retaliation from the international “monsters”, e.g., creditors.) Putting moral considerations aside, this is about how the global credit crunch is harming the commodity-addicted and foreign capital-dependent economies of Latin America.

The bigger economic picture in Ecuador is clear – and very alarming.

First, Ecuador’s exports, mainly crude oil, but other natural resources as well, are collapsing. Magdalena Barreiro of LatinSource Ecuador estimates that if current prices of $30/barrel for Ecuadoran crude oil (see graph below) prevail throughout 2009, the government stands to lose close to $3.4 billion in revenues compared to earlier budget projections based on higher crude prices..

Second, the vaunted international reserve coverage of Ecuador suddenly looks shaky and thin. Since reaching a high point in mid-December of more than $6 billion, reserves plunged to $4.4 billion in just two weeks in December. (See graph below.) The drop could be attributable to the government’s clumsy bond buyback effort, but certainly also it results from balance of payments setbacks. Further declines from this point on in international reserves could risk setting off a run on some $12 billion in deposits in Ecuador’s banking sector as nervous depositors correctly perceive in the reserve erosion a proximate threat to dollarization.

Third, the external financing situation of the government in 2009 is challenging, to say the least. Based on the most recent trends in fiscal spending, the government is looking at a financing need of more than $2 billion this year. (This is assuming that a raft of new spending programs mandated in the new constitution are not funded in 2009, but who knows?) While some of the financing needs could be met internally, Ecuador is going to have to raise significant funding abroad – perhaps as much as $2 billion. And where will this funding come from in the wake of the bond default? Maybe the IADB can provide some help, though that seems unlikely. The word out of Quito is that Iran, Venezuela, and even Argentina could be approached. In other words, Ecuador looks to be heading toward big fiscal trouble without a lot of good financing options.

Summing up, Ecuador presents many elements which in another context led to the collapse of convertibility in Argentina in 2001. Exports, not just crude exports, are falling fast. (The U.S. is the major market for Ecuador.) The government has no access to private lines of credit, no foreign investment to speak of, reserves which are being rapidly depleted, and government financing needs which are very large and likely to grow. Now add to this toxic mix a panicky run on deposits in the banking system and a scenario suddenly appears of an abandonment of dollarization followed by furious running of the printing presses to produce massive amounts of a new domestic currency.

Oddly enough, the Correa government may not find this scenario of de-dollarization (and implicit domestic default) all that frightening, though they would prefer it to occur after the April elections, naturally. Correa and other government officials have talked openly about shaking off the monetary and credit constraints imposed by a dollarization scheme which they inherited. They may be thinking now that they need the ability to create domestic liquidity in 2009 to bail out the government and the private sector, including the banks.

Yet the rest of Ecuador probably sees this scenario of a collapse in dollarization with enormous concern. The same opinion polls that show Ecuadorans in favor of external debt default find that 80% of the population favors keeping the dollar because it has brought a measure of stability to a once deeply troubled economy by protecting their own assets. Yet this confidence on the part of the public has to be seen as fragile, as a banking sector scare in December illustrated clearly.

Maybe dollarization can be sustained through the April elections, but if the adverse global trends continue, for how much longer after that, assuming President Chavez cannot or will not ride to Ecuador’s rescue? And if dollarization succumbs to the crisis, who is to say how severe the subsequent crisis of unemployment and falling real incomes could be in Ecuador? The Argentine economy plunged by 13% in the first year following the exit from convertibility.

I do not think it is worth the risk of waiting to find out how bad things could be in Ecuador. The truth is that global trends battering all of Latin America have backed Ecuador and some of the weaker economies into a tight corner. Some of these economies, or most of these, need some sort of global help – a lender or spender of last resort, emergency lines of credit - to weather the storm. Few of these economies, if any, have the ability to manage their own ways out of the crisis which has befallen them.

If pride and politics can be pushed aside, the wiser course for Ecuador and for the region would be to find some face-saving way to put the default genie back in the bottle and to seek some sort of international assistance in the form of arbitration and backup lines of credit, with a nod from the Obama administration. That could provide needed short-term support for dollarization which has been very positive for Ecuador.

a brief of continuing developments in ecuador. correa is taking some big risks, shaking things up. a part of me wants to believe he is trying to break the chronically-corrupt and stagnant power-structures of the past. this optimism could be explained away by me loving ecua-pussy so much -- how it taints the vision! the rational side of me says "correa, what the *%#/@ are you doing?!"

if he fucks up expect all chongos to be filled with thousands of newbies for the next five years. you will be able to party like it's 1999 -- literally (ecuador's last financial crisis was in 1999) and figuratively (the prince song). i don't want to see this happen to ecuador but as i typed previously many latin leaders seem to take two step forwards, three steps back.

here are some cut and pastes accumulated. no doubt i have missed some important bytes. but this provides some context.

april 2008. the farc blowup with colombia. correa sacks minister of defence and national police commander, accusing both of "institutional collusion with foreign intelligence agencies." it is said "correa is clearly using the crisis as a pretext for purging the armed forces and police and installing senior officers sympathetic to his political cause."

july 2008 article quote: "ecuadorean finance minister fausto ortiz resigned after the government seized two television stations and almost 200 other businesses in a dispute over debts stemming from a 1990s banking crisis. wilma salgado, a 55-year-old economist and former chief of the government agency that took over the businesses early today, was named as his replacement."

end of september 2008 correa managed to pass a new constitution for ecuador. as part of it (quote): "after scrapping central bank independence under its new constitution ..." what else is in the new constitution i have to re-study. i forgot about it after the more recent bond default. the constitution passed with 65% approval. as of jan 2009 he currently has a 70% approval rating with the residents of guayaquil and quito.

quote: "the 20th constitution in the history of this chronically unstable nation considerably broadens correa's powers and will let him run for two more consecutive terms, consolidating what he calls a citizen's revolution."

quote: "on september 28 ecuador´s army expelled brazilian construction company odebrecht, seizing us$800 million of odebrecht´s assets in the process. president correa issued a presidential decree ordering the requisition of odebrecht´s assets and dispatching troops to take over the company´s projects. a national emergency was being declared, the decree said, to recover the operational capacity of the san francisco hydro-electric dam and to avoid internal unrest as a result of power blackouts across the country."

in mid december correa refused to pay $30.6 million in interest on some foreign bonds ($3.9b), calling them illegitimate (ecuador has about $10b in debt). he is currently trying to renegotiate payment of the bonds at a discount (rumored 70% discount). the country's risk potential soared as a result. this reduces ecuador's chances of securing further international credit. at a time of low oil prices, its biggest cultural subsidizer, this is a risky move. especially when ecuador then had some $6 to 6.5 billion in foreign currency reserves and could have easily made the payment.

as one article says "ecuador's perceived risk spread calculated by jp morgan has ballooned to 5,049 points, compared to neighboring colombia's 509, despite the latter embroiled in a 40-year civil war."

another quote: "it may take ecuador the better part of a decade to regain access to international capital markets, he said. it’s a rare thing to not pay when you can."

quote: "he had invoked a one-month grace period on the interest payment in november, saying he wanted to analyze an audit commission’s report on the legality of the debt. correa, who counts venezuelan president hugo chavez among his closest allies, said in his radio address that he prayed to god and “lost a lot of sleep” as he weighed his options."

quote: “there’s a capital flight going on because of the uncertainty. people are worried.” and "they’re already feeling the lack of liquidity. in the end, he may have to de-dollarize.”

because he faces re-election in april 2009 he has ramped up social spending, which means he is burning through foreign currency reserves faster. though some of the burn was attributable to items other than social programs, in q4 alone foreign currency reserves dropped by $1.8b -- to $4.5b remaining today (as per a couple articles).

quote:"the unbalanced external accounts, the liquidity restrictions and the fiscal budget requirements show very bad indicators with a rapid deterioration."

less than two weeks after the bond default ecuador's state-owned social security institute said it will buy about $500 million in new government bonds after it purchased $700 million of the securities the week previous.

the us will withdraw from the manta base by end of 2009.

ecuador is currently seeking a $280 million credit line with iran.

ecuador inflation was 8.8% in 2008. it was 3.3% in 2007. in august 2008 the govt capped prices on some basic food items.

article quote: "ecuador's government will raise the minimum wage for the private sector by 9%, starting on jan. 1, labor minister antonio gagliardo said monday. in a press conference, gagliardo said the new minimum wage will be $218, up from $200 because of rising inflation. ecuador's consumer price index rose 9.13% over the 12-month period through november. gagliardo did not rule out that the government would call for another minimum wage increase in mid-2009. according to government data released in november, the basic living expenses for a family of four in ecuador was $506.79"

there is ongoing speculation correa could abandon the dollar in the future if oil prices remain low and foreign currency reserves run low. this would enable him to print more money. there is also speculation as of today that ecuador is drafting a proposal to legislate creation of a second currency to be used in the country.

due to longtime mining conflicts with foreign companies in april correa halted mining operations. a new bill was passed today by legislature to resume operations.

last month he initiated a policy for the military to start selling the various companies it owns. i would expect some members of the military, due to their privileged position in the past, are grumbling.

article quote: "ecuador's armed forces have begun a process of shedding companies under their control that do not contribute to national security, but they will maintain controlling stakes in those considered to be of "strategic" importance, the press reported monday. the military chief, gen. ernesto gonzalez, told el universo daily that the armed forces have begun a process of divesting or selling off stakes in several of the roughly 30 firms they have established over the past three decades. that, according to gonzalez, is due to a constitutional mandate requiring that the armed forces only participate in economic activities related to national security. among the businesses now owned by the military are companies dedicated to steel, dairy and clothing production; the exporting of flowers, bananas and shrimp; and the transport of oil to foreign countries."

today he announced plans to cut imports by $1.5 billion in 2009 in a move to defend use of the us dollar. quote: "unable to print currency, ecuador risks running out of dollars if it doesn’t reduce money spent on imports, correa said."

quote: "the president criticized the importation of too many expensive products in 2008. he expressed his dissatisfaction with the importation of candies worth about 65 million u.s. dollars, cell phones worth 250 million dollars, vehicles and auto parts worth 1.121 billion dollars, and 100 million dollars worth of perfumes."

article quote: "in spite of a large number of reforms in recent years, ecuador still ranks 150th out of 179 states surveyed in transparency international´s corruption perceptions index 2007, comparing unfavorably with regional peers, with the exception of venezuela. bureaucracy is a major issue for foreign companies, with legal and property transactions often subject to severe delays, corruption is endemic, and little has been done to improve the situation."

the post previous to this is a decent summary of ecuador in january 2009. where it goes from here: let the dice fly high !

one thing i do know for sure. the lollipops i bought for samira, lucy and mariela are going to see their prices skyrocket. i recommend isgers bring their own candies from now on. as you invest capital into those 800 penny fichas it will help you keep those "extras" expenses under control.

this is tungurahua reporting, signing out for isg-news-services, quito-branch.

Further news browsing led me to some new twists in the story.

In the last post I noted Ecuador's foreign reserves plummeted from about $6 billion US to $4.5 billion US during Q4 2008. Social spending would account for some, sure, but nothing that drastic. It had me curious. Why the sudden drop?

Then I found this bit. Quote: "On Thursday (Dec11-2008) the Quito-based newspaper El Comercio reported that the government had quietly bought back $680 million in debt from foreign creditors in recent weeks. It has raised the possibility that Ecuador may have purposely been trying to drive down the value of its bonds on international markets, allowing the government to step in and buy them back for a fraction of the cost of honoring them and making a renegotiation of the debt easier now."

Dec 13 article: "Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said yesterday that his nation is defaulting on its foreign debt, fulfilling his longtime populist pledge to leave international creditors in the lurch. ... Bondholders could be in for a steep haircut, though perhaps no worse than current market value for Ecuador's debt. As expectations of a default grew since September, the value of Ecuador's bonds fell more than 65 percent, to 30 cents on the dollar before Correa's announcement at 2 p.m. yesterday. They sank below 24 cents on the dollar shortly after his announcement."

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/12/AR2008121204105_pf.html[/url]
[url]http://seekingalpha.com/article/116119-ecuador-chronicles-of-a-default-foretold[/url]

In the last post I noted : "Less than two weeks after the bond default Ecuador's state-owned Social Security Institute (SSI) said it will buy about $500 million in new government bonds after it purchased $700 million of the securities the week previous."

Hmmm, let's put the pieces together: $680 million in debt repurchased, repackaged and sold to SSI for the nice round figure of $700 million. Then another $500 million in debt purchased, sold to SSI. That would be $1.18 billion accounted for of the $1.5 billion in foreign reserves burned through in Q4.

If Correa repurchased Ecuador's debt at an average of 30 cents on the dollar, $3.9 billion could be bought for $1.17 billion. I do not know if this is a valid picture what is happening "behind-the-scenes" but the numbers balance.

I am no expert in international finance but one would think there would be a barrage of lawsuits launched if this is what Correa is doing. This strikes me as a derivative of "insider-trading" -- ??

Quote: "Critics say the government may be playing a high-stakes game of chicken with investors."

Other bits: "Ecuador has hired Lazard Freres, an advisory firm that helped Argentina after its debt default, to oversee the restructuring of $3.2 billion in unpaid global bonds, President Rafael Correa said on Saturday." (Jan17 article)

Quote: "“Ecuador is a serial defaulter,” said Arturo Porzecanski, an expert in international finance, emerging markets and Latin America economics at American University in Washington, D.C. “They defaulted in the 1980s, 1990s and this decade. A lot of other countries have had one or two defaults, but Ecuador tops them all.” Indeed, Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history (see Debt Defaults and Lessons from a Decade of Crises by Federico Sturzenegger and Jeromin Zettelmeyer)."

I have to laugh at this last quote. Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history. Averaging one default per decade in the last thirty years. One has to wonder who is the bigger idiot here. The people defaulting or the people financing?

Whatever the case, the optimistic scenario is Correa could navigate this high-stakes gamble to success. After the dust settles, say five years, a bunch of new lenders step in with billions more.

As all variables are never known, the pessimistic outcome is Ecuador driven off the highest of Andean cliffs by Correa and his advisors. As rockers System of a Down would sing: "Trust in my self-righteous suicide!"

Hi Tung,

Interesting reading your social-political comments, as one of the many who have put your information to very good use in Ecuador and Colombia I'm glad your interests are broader then the classifieds of La Hora...:-)

My opinion?

The Bad: No way Ecuador is coming through this without printing its own currency again. This Correa just dug himself too big of a hole. After the elections April 26 all hell will break loose, unless crude climbs to above 60$ which is not likely come spring and depression in the US and Europe.

The Ugly: Yea sure they are manipulating the bond market, lowering the price and buying on the cheap. If this was a corporate bond they'd all be in jail now and for a long time. Being it's not corporate: fuck the suckers, we all know they never die only change.

Even uglier: This is all a convoluted and additional way for the guys on top to make a bundle for their swiss numbered accounts, in coordination with Venezuelan banks that have sold credit default swaps to the same suckers. After all, nobody's in politics in Ecuador for another reason then to fill their pockets, and they all do just that. Suckers everywhere: Ecuadorians paying taxes and funds/banks/persons investing in Ecuador sovereign debt.

The Good: when they do print currency, provided you earn in greenbacks, your already sweet mongering (and just current) life in Ecuador will turn into pure honey. AAA+ pussy to chose from on the cheap.

Who said there's not a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

Keep it up guy, you are an inspiration to all.

To those who have it to defend themselves in the event that something happens. I am assuming you put it in your carry on luggage. What about the chongos that have security at the front that pat you down? I think that at night when mongering would be the best and most necessary time to carry the pepper spray, so it would defeat the purpose of having to leave it back in the hotel room.

[QUOTE=Otravezencolmbia]To those who have it to defend themselves in the event that something happens. I am assuming you put it in your carry on luggage. What about the chongos that have security at the front that pat you down? I think that at night when mongering would be the best and most necessary time to carry the pepper spray, so it would defeat the purpose of having to leave it back in the hotel room.[/QUOTE]

You do not want to put pepper spray in your carry on luggage. This could land you in jail.

Hey Tunguraghua, [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=Tungurahua]Further news browsing led me to some new twists in the story.

In the last post I noted Ecuador's foreign reserves plummeted from about $6 billion US to $4.5 billion US during Q4 2008. Social spending would account for some, sure, but nothing that drastic. It had me curious. Why the sudden drop?

Then I found this bit. Quote: "On Thursday (Dec11-2008) the Quito-based newspaper El Comercio reported that the government had quietly bought back $680 million in debt from foreign creditors in recent weeks. It has raised the possibility that Ecuador may have purposely been trying to drive down the value of its bonds on international markets, allowing the government to step in and buy them back for a fraction of the cost of honoring them and making a renegotiation of the debt easier now."

Dec 13 article: "Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said yesterday that his nation is defaulting on its foreign debt, fulfilling his longtime populist pledge to leave international creditors in the lurch. ... Bondholders could be in for a steep haircut, though perhaps no worse than current market value for Ecuador's debt. As expectations of a default grew since September, the value of Ecuador's bonds fell more than 65 percent, to 30 cents on the dollar before Correa's announcement at 2 p.m. yesterday. They sank below 24 cents on the dollar shortly after his announcement."

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/12/AR2008121204105_pf.html[/url]
[url]http://seekingalpha.com/article/116119-ecuador-chronicles-of-a-default-foretold[/url]

In the last post I noted : "Less than two weeks after the bond default Ecuador's state-owned Social Security Institute (SSI) said it will buy about $500 million in new government bonds after it purchased $700 million of the securities the week previous."

Hmmm, let's put the pieces together: $680 million in debt repurchased, repackaged and sold to SSI for the nice round figure of $700 million. Then another $500 million in debt purchased, sold to SSI. That would be $1.18 billion accounted for of the $1.5 billion in foreign reserves burned through in Q4.

If Correa repurchased Ecuador's debt at an average of 30 cents on the dollar, $3.9 billion could be bought for $1.17 billion. I do not know if this is a valid picture what is happening "behind-the-scenes" but the numbers balance.

I am no expert in international finance but one would think there would be a barrage of lawsuits launched if this is what Correa is doing. This strikes me as a derivative of "insider-trading" -- ??

Quote: "Critics say the government may be playing a high-stakes game of chicken with investors."

Other bits: "Ecuador has hired Lazard Freres, an advisory firm that helped Argentina after its debt default, to oversee the restructuring of $3.2 billion in unpaid global bonds, President Rafael Correa said on Saturday." (Jan17 article)

Quote: "“Ecuador is a serial defaulter,” said Arturo Porzecanski, an expert in international finance, emerging markets and Latin America economics at American University in Washington, D.C. “They defaulted in the 1980s, 1990s and this decade. A lot of other countries have had one or two defaults, but Ecuador tops them all.” Indeed, Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history (see Debt Defaults and Lessons from a Decade of Crises by Federico Sturzenegger and Jeromin Zettelmeyer)."

I have to laugh at this last quote. Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history. Averaging one default per decade in the last thirty years. One has to wonder who is the bigger idiot here. The people defaulting or the people financing?

Whatever the case, the optimistic scenario is Correa could navigate this high-stakes gamble to success. After the dust settles, say five years, a bunch of new lenders step in with billions more.

As all variables are never known, the pessimistic outcome is Ecuador driven off the highest of Andean cliffs by Correa and his advisors. As rockers System of a Down would sing: "Trust in my self-righteous suicide!"[/QUOTE][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove text not in English[/u]. While I encourage contributions from all members, the Forum is an English-only website. Please do not post reports in any language other than English unless accompanied by a full English translation.[i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

Tung & TM, thanks for the interesting read on the Ecuadorian economic situation. I have thought about that as well, how does a country which does not issue its own currency survive when their main export market has dropped substantially such as Ecuador? It would be interesting to see if people would even accept a local currency, except maybe at the point of a gun, it would create a massive blackmarket for US$, and yes, could lead to some interesting times in the chongos (almost said casas! )

All hell breaking loose of course has positives and negatives. I have never been to Ecuador, but wish to go late June, so after the upcoming elections, which I would assume Correa will win, even if he cheats. The negative is that one could wind up in a Thailand situation, riots and closing down the airport, so you can't get the hell out, but on the positive, keeps down the gringo rabble, so as chica supply expands, and demand drops, prices will of course follow, which is the exact opposite of what has happened in Medellin. Tung, I will be following your fascinating, onthespot reporting, forget CNN, ISG on the ground, far better!

Chucha. I didn't read the rules. Sorry.

Hi Furysys,

People in Ecuador take about anything and don't do much about it, that's mainly why they are where they are. So the new currency will be accepted, especially when at first it will be presented as a 2 currency situation with parity (1:1) between them. Go to the Anal Connoisseurs Thread, it's much the same: first one finger, then 2 and then the main event :-)

Yes, black market, expending chica supply (for all the wrong reasons, granted) and some riots. On the other hand, Ecuadorians have thrown out 3 presidents so far (Abdala, Mahaud and Gutierrez) with a TOTAL of 3-5 days mild riots, 2 days airport closures and little or no consequences for tourists. Life went on as usual, except for the vicinity of the Government Palace and Congress.

So main effect MAY be for the Center chongos...Just go to the north ones as Chicas are not too politically active and would rather work then demonstrate in a tear gas cloud :-)

[QUOTE=Dirty Willy]You do not want to put pepper spray in your carry on luggage. This could land you in jail.[/QUOTE]Ok I think i mistyped. I meant to say you obviously would put it on your checked baggage.

[QUOTE=Otravezencolmbia]Ok I think i mistyped. I meant to say you obviously would put it on your checked baggage.[/QUOTE]

Pepper spray is also illegal in some countries. I recall reading about some places that it would be treated the same as if you had a gun. So, double check that all places you're going that it's allowed.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Pepper spray is also illegal in some countries. I recall reading about some places that it would be treated the same as if you had a gun. So, double check that all places you're going that it's allowed.[/QUOTE]I will be in Ecuador and Colombia only.

Anyone know of a good dentist in Quito. I had some fillings done in Pattaya last year and had one fall out and I've heard that dental work is inexpensive in Ecuador.

Thanks

Hi,

I was just wondering what the service charge is when you go to a restaurant? Usually this is a tip in most places I've been to. But here I've been to places that charge it then ask for a tip as well.

So is it a tax or a tip or something else?

Thanks,

BB

[QUOTE=Bigben0]Hi,

I was just wondering what the service charge is when you go to a restaurant? Usually this is a tip in most places I've been to. But here I've been to places that charge it then ask for a tip as well.

So is it a tax or a tip or something else?

Thanks,

BB[/QUOTE]Here is not like in the US. You leave the tip you want to. In some places tips are included (you have to look at the fine print). It ussually is 10% of the total. Then they add a 12% tax. If they ask you for an extra tip it's up to you if you want to leave it. I don't.

Chaps do you have any information regarding buying Vitamin V or C in Quito. In Argentina they sale Local brand Sildenafil and Magnum with excellent performance and good value for money (If buy in bulk under a $ for 50mg)

Any information regarding brand name, where to buy it and price would be great help. And any comments on performance I. E. Vs Viagra or Cialis would be great.

Thanks

J

[QUOTE=Otravezencolmbia]I will be in Ecuador and Colombia only.[/QUOTE]

Well, you can purchase pepper spray over the counter in a sporting good store at the Quicentro Mall in Quito. They have a most powerful brand that costs a few dollars. I tested it in the toilet, and nearly choked.

[QUOTE=Model500]Here is not like in the US. You leave the tip you want to. In some places tips are included (you have to look at the fine print). It ussually is 10% of the total. Then they add a 12% tax. If they ask you for an extra tip it's up to you if you want to leave it. I don't.[/QUOTE]

The 10% on the bill is intended for the kitchen staff and those that aren't the server. The server is supposed to keep the tip you leave at the table. This is how it "should" work but it's not necessarily reality many times in restaurants as the owners steal the tips.

David B.

Glancing through some of the threads here, is it safe to say that Ecuador is the best bargain in S.A.?

I am not familiar with all of the best mongering destinations, but if I am reading correctly that typical brothels charge around $20 for a girl, than that is pretty damn cheap. And hotel rates at $20 per night?

I prefer having girls come to my hotel. From what I see that is just as inexpensive?

[QUOTE=Nicebutthole]Glancing through some of the threads here, is it safe to say that Ecuador is the best bargain in S.A.?

I am not familiar with all of the best mongering destinations, but if I am reading correctly that typical brothels charge around $20 for a girl, than that is pretty damn cheap. And hotel rates at $20 per night?

I prefer having girls come to my hotel. From what I see that is just as inexpensive?[/QUOTE]It depends.

From my point of view, Colombia and Paraguay are better in terms of look, performance, and the price is very similar.

Probably even better.

You can find promotions for trios in the casas of Medellin or Cali, for example, and Paraguay hidden brothels are not expensive (but deserve their name).

But the so friendly Colombia can sometimes turn really hot, and Paraguay is too sleepy for most of people.

I can't speak for Brazil, but it seems most reports say it's great if not a bit pricey.



Ecuador offers a peaceful, structured, fun sex market.
Quito is well-kown on the map, thanks to our volcanic Tungurahua!
Lots of ISGers have already told how fun it is to add quickies one after the other for around 10 bucks each...
A first puta to cure your dickache and dry your leche, and the next two to your 1.50 dollar entrance fee.
Enjoy!

But, I'm not sure it's often mention here, it's not specially hard to score regular girls if you speak spanish.
On the coast, Manabi, Esmeraldas, you can find easy meat if you're discret. They're poor, sweet, naive girls; take advantage but don't screw everything being an asshole.
I said "if you're discret" because word on mouth is damn fast: little provincial towns.
If you like black s(k)in, Ibarra is a quiet town in a valley, surrounded by a lake and flower fields. And ways less dirty than Esmeraldas.
So much ebony here, but not the light-skin beauties you see in Porto Viejo, or the reddish-brown indians of the mountains.
I personnaly tested the hospitality of a milf I meet during a bus trip who spontaneously show me the (naked, of course) pics taken by her ex-german fuckfriend.
She really wants me to come to her home, looking for money to cover her son football expenses; I agree after making a point that, as a young guy, I need to fuck fresh pussies too, and need introduction.
And I don't want to appear as a mean gringo in front of so many noble teethless fellows. A gentleman must help a lady in distress.
Finally, thanks to her son, the soccer dream, and Nike prohibitives prices, I soon know well her nephews, the friends of them, etc.
It was indeed a victory, but in these places where everyone know what your eat for breakfast, I prefer to have some local help, a hand (among other things) tenderly given !


Quito and Guayaquil are quite big, impersonnal cities. Commercial and college neighboroods are good pick-up fields. Be careful: if you like teens, there is lot of high-school little things, hungry for foreigners, and who don't hesitate to lie about their real age. Very likely to the Peruvians.
Hopefully, they're generally in group and wear uniforms, with those high-knees socks.
Maybe one day some Japaneses will know it's easier to fullfil their fantasms here than in S-E Asia...
The bar-scene of Mariscal, the salsotecas, are full during the week-end.



Ecuador also offer, in a tiny land, great cultural places, landscapes, if you're in green or cultural tourism, or just want to do something between two shags.
Bus travels are not fast (if they are, you're probably dead because of the driver), planes are regular. But even in the worst case, it's unlikely that you are more than a tenth hours far of your destination.

By, the way, hotel rates could be cheaper than 20 dollars.
So I think it's a nice country, and probably the better in SA for a short or first stay. And yes, among the cheapest.

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I absolutely recommend that you bring bills of $20 and under with maybe a stack of 100 $1's if you are doing budget chongos.

I will be going in them with exact change so I can dish out payment for the the second 20 minute round if need be.

You might be able to pay with 50's at the higher end hotels or malls. I don't remember. Can someone verify this?

Also can someone remind me of how much the trolley costs ? I want to know if bringing a roll or two of quarters would be worth the trouble. Small change is definately worth the trouble.

Thanks,

Artisttyp

" Live life Eat ass "

The trolley was $.25 as of 2008. Dunno if they raised the prices or not since I left last May.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I absolutely recommend that you bring bills of $20 and under with maybe a stack of 100 $1's if you are doing budget chongos.

I will be going in them with exact change so I can dish out payment for the the second 20 minute round if need be.

You might be able to pay with 50's at the higher end hotels or malls. I don't remember. Can someone verify this?

Also can someone remind me of how much the trolley costs ? I want to know if bringing a roll or two of quarters would be worth the trouble. Small change is definately worth the trouble.

Thanks,

Artisttyp

" Live life Eat ass "[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I absolutely recommend that you bring bills of $20 and under with maybe a stack of 100 $1's if you are doing budget chongos.[/QUOTE]

This is a very good idea regardless of your destination.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Also can someone remind me of how much the trolley costs ? I want to know if bringing a roll or two of quarters would be worth the trouble.[/QUOTE]

The trole was US$0.25 in October/November. You do not need a roll of quarters--it adds unnecessary weight--as the trole cashier makes change.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]This is a very good idea regardless of your destination.



The trole was US$0.25 in October/November. You do not need a roll of quarters--it adds unnecessary weight--as the trole cashier makes change.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it would save me some time standing in line.

Thank you for the responses.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Maybe it would save me some time standing in line.

Thank you for the responses.[/QUOTE]
The trole runs very well during the day. Even if you miss one, another will be behind it. Also, the lines are not so long, perhaps five people or so ahead. Personally, I would pass on the roll of quarters. Oh, please visit Touch Me for me, if it remains open.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I absolutely recommend that you bring bills of $20 and under with maybe a stack of 100 $1's if you are doing budget chongos.

I will be going in them with exact change so I can dish out payment for the the second 20 minute round if need be.

You might be able to pay with 50's at the higher end hotels or malls. I don't remember. Can someone verify this?

Also can someone remind me of how much the trolley costs ? I want to know if bringing a roll or two of quarters would be worth the trouble. Small change is definately worth the trouble.

Thanks,

Artisttyp

" Live life Eat ass "[/QUOTE]20's and lower please. I always carry 5's and 1's nothing higher, even 10's seems to have problems in some places, and yes in chongos you want to have exact change, it's a nightmare sometimes to get change back.

Also coins are helpful, but you can get a roll of quarters or whatever denomination from a bank anywhere, not a big deal really, but if you want to bring your own, that's good too.

[QUOTE=Professor 1] Oh, please visit Touch Me for me, if it remains open.[/QUOTE]


Actually touch me was one of the very few cheapies that I enjoyed. However I will be doing things differently this time around. I have an allowance for 2 maybe 3 double sessions per week at cafe rojo then somethig set aside for 3 $60 hr sunday sessions at alondras.

My point is I will try not to get into the "rush " routine. I would rather pay a little more. After all it takes me almost 15 minutes to take off my clothes.

I should seriously consider wearing a sweatsuit with nothing on underneath!

A stopwatch is a must. I brought one to buenos aires and low and behold I got my time.


* By the way has anyone been to the cloud forest of mindo ? I found one tour operator but I am looking for other options. I will not however stay in the boondocks without a heater. I did that last time and it wasn't pretty even with 7 blankets on me.

Hi Artisttyp,

Almost all the travel agencies in Gringolandia offer different Mindo Tour option, with or without spending the night. Just walk around and ask.

I would not worry about the cold nights of Mindo, its almost sub tropical there, hot and humid daytime, warm to fresh (can't really describe it as cold or cool) nighttime.

Been reading these forums with interest for ages.

I am heading to Ecuador in November, only 20 days this time, but that's due to work.

Prior to this, I spent about 2.5 years living in various s.american countries, mainly Py, Peru.

Ended up with una bruja Paraguaya, and we had 5 great years. No longer together means office life in the UK has lost any interest for me.

Upon return from aforesaid trip in Nov / DEC, I am planning on another year in the beautiful and strangely alluring continent of South America.

W/o advertising anyone, there is a CELTA certified TEFL course in Quito which is effectively the cheapest (CELTA) certified course in S America.

Not been a member long, and this indeed is my first post, but will soon give Jacko his 20 yanqui dollar for access to the PM function.

Might be nice to know any members who are planning to be in Quito next year - I have to say some ideas on rental costs would be great.

Anyway, for now a big hello to all who currently reside in Ecuador, yet another Gringo (although technically not, as I am not from the USA), is soon to invest 9 months of his life in Quito.

I'll be teaching english part-time, and it is always nice to know other 'gringos'.

Y no te prepuces, hablo Español, y se cuidarme.

El Proff

[QUOTE=Elproff]

Anyway, for now a big hello to all who currently reside in Ecuador, yet another Gringo (although technically not, as I am not from the USA), is soon to invest 9 months of his life in Quito.
[/QUOTE]
May I ask how you are going to be able to stay in Ecuador for nine months, I assume, continuously? Is your employer going to get you a work visa or are you just going to overstay your tourist visa? Or maybe you're investing money in a business or something like that?

Also, anyone have any updated info on the length of stay for tourists. Last year it was mentioned that it is much more difficult and costly to get an extension past three months in a calendar year.

If I am right accordingly to new regulations visas for all tourists have been abolished, so if I am right you don't need a visa but you will be asked to levae country after three months time, but now you can renew your staying up to three times in a row. I will try to find some more info on these matter.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]May I ask how you are going to be able to stay in Ecuador for nine months, I assume, continuously? [/QUOTE]Yeah the plan is to do this continuously. As far as I am aware the tourist visa will be for 90 days on entrance - so I haven't actually worked out how the extension will be done.

I'm going to be asking the school where I do the course for their advice, but according to the guidebooks it may be possible to extend in country (for a fee of course) for a further 90 days.

Don't fancy overstaying my tourist visa. The obvious other option is a visa run to Peru or if I manage to get work teaching out there, maybe a legit work visa.

Any other forum members who know definite answers on this are welcome to share their knowledge, and when I get some definite answers I'll post some info. Might try ringing the Ecuadorian Embassy in Londres?

Yes, you can only get a 3 month visa, you can't get a new one just by going to Peru anymore.

You could get a x-20 visa where after paying over 200+ you get another 3 month extension.

Now if you become a part time teacher, buddy of mine used to teach for a couple of hours here and there, he got a work visa, and he was able to stay for 9 months. Good luck.

[url]www.zerohedge.com/article/american-story[/url]

A pretty sad story. You know things are bad when people are requesting to leave the United States in order to go back to Third World Countries.

I guess it's better to be poor in Ecuador than the US.

[QUOTE=Precocious One][url]www.zerohedge.com/article/american-story[/url]

A pretty sad story. You know things are bad when people are requesting to leave the United States in order to go back to Third World Countries.

I guess it's better to be poor in Ecuador than the US.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah it's better to be poor in Ecuador than the US!!! Especially if that's where all your family is. I'm a US citizen and I plan to move to EC as soon as hit the right number in my savings account, fuck the US. It's better to be middle class in Ecuador than in the US, and for that matter!

Hi Friends of Cuenca,

I will be there in January: Is there Viagra or the like available in the pharmacies without a prescription? Many thanks.

Frank

Leonela who had a page in Yahoo seems to have moved to a new home
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If you can afford the prices go ahead and call.

Does anyone know what areas in Quito are the safest and where can I get an apartment, furnished, for 6 or 7 weeks starting in late May?

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=Tattle]Does anyone know what areas in Quito are the safest and where can I get an apartment, furnished, for 6 or 7 weeks starting in late May?

Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]I had apartments many times but not in Gringolandia (too many tourists and that's very atractive for thieves) but I had in the neighbourhood of 10 de Agosto near the lower priced girls-places and I ha done time a apartment in the North (Near Quicentro) and at some other places just outside the tourist centre (6 de diciembre at the front of Body, but just that club give a lot of problems there because the girls are leaving at 4 in the morning and that never happens without many noise-making) It's complicates find a apartment for some weeks in Quito because the owners prefer long stays, often a year but I when I'm in Quito it's always for 2 or 3 months and everytime I found an apartment but It's not easy. If you're interested pm me and I can give you some suggestions because I'm prepairing my next stay in Quito from August till November.

In general, and given some logical precautions, how safe is travel in Ec.?

Greeting gentlemen,

I will be passing thru Quito from MDE on my way to Lima,Peru. I will be on a reconnaissance mission for my boys and I. My group and I will be in MDE for 2 weeks at the end of which 2 of us will break off and go to Quito and Lima for a week, concurrently. I have read thru a few of the threads and haven't hear much about money?

So, I went to yahoo currence converter and it appears that in Ecuador the currency is on par with the American $ (dollar for dollar), can anyone substantiate or discredit this notion.

And if the Ecuadorian $ is on par with the American $ how far does ones dollar go?
thanks,

Biggs

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greeting gentlemen,

So, I went to yahoo currence converter and it appears that in Ecuador the currency is on par with the American $ (dollar for dollar), can anyone substantiate or discredit this notion.

And if the Ecuadorian $ is on par with the American $ how far does ones dollar go?[/QUOTE]

The U.S. dollar IS the currency of Ecuador, senor. The dollar did well when I was there in late 2008.

The express bus and trole is $0.25. You can get a nice breakfast for $3.00. I did a hot number in a low-end MP for $8.00.

I hope that this helps. :)

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greeting gentlemen,

I will be passing thru Quito from MDE on my way to Lima,Peru. I will be on a reconnaissance mission for my boys and I. My group and I will be in MDE for 2 weeks at the end of which 2 of us will break off and go to Quito and Lima for a week, concurrently. I have read thru a few of the threads and haven't hear much about money?

So, I went to yahoo currence converter and it appears that in Ecuador the currency is on par with the American $ (dollar for dollar), can anyone substantiate or discredit this notion.

And if the Ecuadorian $ is on par with the American $ how far does ones dollar go?
thanks,

Biggs[/QUOTE]


Ecuador is a great place to live well for very cheap. Bring an extra fold up duffel bag so you can bring stuff home. You will find incredible deals on leather goods.

The problem with quito for some people is the altitude and the short sessions. Most were uneventful for me.

Bring no bill higher than a $20 and bring a stack of 10's 5's and 1's. You will thank yourself over and over again. Getting change is a biatch in ecuador like most other latin countries.

Thank you Artisttyp and Professor 1

After acting impulsively and more extensive research I am experiencing a bit of buyer’s remorse.

To explain, I have already book my ticket from MDE to Quito however I have discovered that I would much rather enjoy as stay in the city of Guayaquil as I am a connoisseur of chicas of the mulata/negra persuasion, hence my handle.

Can I expect and shortage of brown skinned Latina sweetness during my stay in Quito. Or can you suggest a rapid round trip transport from Quito to the coveted destination of Guayaquil?

Thanks Biggs

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ecuador is a great place to live well for very cheap. Bring an extra fold up duffel bag so you can bring stuff home. You will find incredible deals on leather goods.

The problem with quito for some people is the altitude and the short sessions. Most were uneventful for me.

Bring no bill higher than a $20 and bring a stack of 10's 5's and 1's. You will thank yourself over and over again. Getting change is a biatch in ecuador like most other latin countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Thank you Artisttyp and Professor 1

After acting impulsively and more extensive research I am experiencing a bit of buyer’s remorse.

To explain, I have already book my ticket from MDE to Quito however I have discovered that I would much rather enjoy as stay in the city of Guayaquil as I am a connoisseur of chicas of the mulata/negra persuasion, hence my handle.

Can I expect and shortage of brown skinned Latina sweetness during my stay in Quito. Or can you suggest a rapid round trip transport from Quito to the coveted destination of Guayaquil?

Thanks Biggs[/QUOTE]


Guayaquil has gotten mixed reviews from members. If you look at the guayaquil thread you will notice only a few budget offerings and a few clip joints.

Have no fear quito is chongo heaven for all types of girls. Look at the photo gallery. The mighty tung documents many girls as you described.

You can always take a bus to guayaquil for *very cheap. It takes 8 hours I believe. I did some planning but never made it there. Basically you have calle 18 street scene and a few SW areas for the budget monger. On the other hand quito is loaded with budget options.

I'd like to go back to quito again but the altitude sickness really messed me up. You need to prepare yourself for it. Speak to your doctor.



I like the DR chicas too. The closest thing I've seen to that look is colombia. Some of the blk girls look very dominican. Cartegena ?

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Can I expect and shortage of brown skinned Latina sweetness during my stay in Quito. Or can you suggest a rapid round trip transport from Quito to the coveted destination of Guayaquil?[/QUOTE]

You can find dark girls in Quito. Now, this is not New York or Chicago, so to speak, but I had a GREAT MP experience for $8 to $10 so with one. She gave me her number, but acted like she did not know me when I called later. Perhaps, she did not remember. In any event, you will find them, but it can be hit or miss. Also, you will see some, not many, on public transportation. When I was there, the girl that sold the tickets at the Basilica del Vota Nacional was a most hot sister. I could kick myself for not asking her out. Keep your eyes open, and ride public transportation.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp] I'd like to go back to quito again but the altitude sickness really messed me up. You need to prepare yourself for it. Speak to your doctor[/QUOTE]

Let me address this. Now, I did not have any problems after landing. On the plane descent, I did get an ear ache that I have not had in many years. The gum helped minimally. After the landing, I never had a problem. After unpacking, I went to the store--the supermarket was closed--and then visited one of the chongos.

Thank you much. You are both gentlemen and scholars. From what I gather, money, the dollar, will go quite longer and perform well in EC. I need to prepair myself for the altitude perhaps by consulting my Doc. Keep plenty of change and don't worry about missing out on blk Latinas in Quito because I will be able to locate some.

It will be interesting to see how the women of EC will compair with women I have experienced in RIO, DR and soon to experience in CO.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Let me address this. Now, I did not have any problems after landing. On the plane descent, I did get an ear ache that I have not had in many years. The gum helped minimally. After the landing, I never had a problem. After unpacking, I went to the store--the supermarket was closed--and then visited one of the chongos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Let me address this. Now, I did not have any problems after landing. On the plane descent, I did get an ear ache that I have not had in many years. The gum helped minimally. After the landing, I never had a problem. After unpacking, I went to the store--the supermarket was closed--and then visited one of the chongos.[/QUOTE]


You are one of the luckier people. The effects vary from person to person. It has nothing to do with how strong you are or how many miles you run a day. It's purely genetic from what I understand.

I came to the conclusion that high altitudes are not for me. I did survive both of my 3 week trips to quito but I can't say my breathing ever returned to normal when I was there. There were many times I was screwing with a jacked up heart rate due to the elevation. When I came it got worse.

I travel alone and can't depend on anyone but myself. If anything happened to me who will make the necessary flight arrangements etc ? The only thing I could do is get on a bus to a lower elevation. Who will pack my stuff up and get me on the bus???? On my second trip I notified a friend via email that I might need his help. That is how uncomfortable I was.

Bogota La Paz and Quito are no go's for me. It's such a bummer. La Paz hurts like hell since I love indian women.

I don't want to freak anybody out. It's different for everybody. I just wanted to share my story.

To be quite honest I don't know really what to expect. I have experienced higher elevations before, 3-6k ft, however I am not sure if anything I have experienced will be adequate preparation or remotely compariable to Quito's nearly 10k ft elevation?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]You are one of the luckier people. The effects vary from person to person. It has nothing to do with how strong you are or how many miles you run a day. It's purely genetic from what I understand.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]You are one of the luckier people. The effects vary from person to person. It has nothing to do with how strong you are or how many miles you run a day. It's purely genetic from what I understand.

I came to the conclusion that high altitudes are not for me. I did survive both of my 3 week trips to quito but I can't say my breathing ever returned to normal when I was there. There were many times I was screwing with a jacked up heart rate due to the elevation. When I came it got worse.

I travel alone and can't depend on anyone but myself. If anything happened to me who will make the necessary flight arrangements etc ? The only thing I could do is get on a bus to a lower elevation. Who will pack my stuff up and get me on the bus???? On my second trip I notified a friend via email that I might need his help. That is how uncomfortable I was.

Bogota La Paz and Quito are no go's for me. It's such a bummer. La Paz hurts like hell since I love indian women.

I don't want to freak anybody out. It's different for everybody. I just wanted to share my story.[/QUOTE]Two or three weeks before my trip to Quito, I start taking one tablet of children's tylenol a day. It's supposed to help thin the blood and also help with altitude sickness.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]To be quite honest I don't know really what to expect. I have experienced higher elevations before, 3-6k ft, however I am not sure if anything I have experienced will be adequate preparation or remotely compariable to Quito's nearly 10k ft elevation?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]You are one of the luckier people. The effects vary from person to person. It has nothing to do with how strong you are or how many miles you run a day. It's purely genetic from what I understand.[/QUOTE] That is exactly my point. You won't know until you go there. The only thing a doctor can do is check to make sure you don't have any pre existing conditions that would stop you from even trying...heart conditions lung problems etc. If you are healthy you should be fine but again everybody reacts differently.

One story I read somewhere stated that the grandmother was the only one that did not feel the effects. It varies greatly.

I had coca tea and took aspirin but that didn't due too much for me. Once you feel the negative effects ( if you do) you will realize that it takes a lot more than herbal tea to make you feel better.

The good news is quito is only number 2(La Paz #1) in height as far as SA goes and bogota is a little lower than quito. If you can do quito then you will be fine in bogota...lucky you!

Cuzco peru is the highest city. i was there last summer and just crossing the street would bring me to a pant. i got drunk and the hangover was death so i did not do that again. i too am planning on going to quito in july, but i have health probs and might go elsewhere. peace


[QUOTE=Artisttyp][QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]To be quite honest I don't know really what to expect. I have experienced higher elevations before, 3-6k ft, however I am not sure if anything I have experienced will be adequate preparation or remotely compariable to Quito's nearly 10k ft elevation?



That is exactly my point. You won't know until you go there. The only thing a doctor can do is check to make sure you don't have any pre existing conditions that would stop you from even trying...heart conditions lung problems etc. If you are healthy you should be fine but again everybody reacts differently.

One story I read somewhere stated that the grandmother was the only one that did not feel the effects. It varies greatly.

I had coca tea and took aspirin but that didn't due too much for me. Once you feel the negative effects ( if you do) you will realize that it takes a lot more than herbal tea to make you feel better.

The good news is quito is only number 2(La Paz #1) in height as far as SA goes and bogota is a little lower than quito. If you can do quito then you will be fine in bogota...lucky you![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]It will be interesting to see how the women of EC will compair with women I have experienced in RIO, DR and soon to experience in CO.[/QUOTE]You cannot compare the countries, as they are all distinct. It is as comparing Guersey cows, Jersey cows, and Central Pennsylvania imported Guersey cows.

As for me, Rio had the hottest girls, but I met more ordinary girls in DR. It was easier for me, speaking Spanish, to meet regular girls in the DR. My EC experience was limited to chongo girls.

Thank you for the insight. LOL@ the cows allegory, funny.

I agree with you. Question, where does one find a GFE friendly place to stay for a couple of days while in Qutio? Being close to some action is always good. I usually prefer safe areas, but not afraid of a couple of hard looks from locals, rodents and vermin are a no go for me.

Biggs

[QUOTE=Professor 1]You cannot compare the countries, as they are all distinct. It is as comparing Guersey cows, Jersey cows, and Central Pennsylvania imported Guersey cows.

As for me, Rio had the hottest girls, but I met more ordinary girls in DR. It was easier for me, speaking Spanish, to meet regular girls in the DR. My EC experience was limited to chongo girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Question, where does one find a GFE friendly place to stay for a couple of days while in Qutio? Being close to some action is always good. I usually prefer safe areas, but not afraid of a couple of hard looks from locals, rodents and vermin are a no go for me.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Sheraton. As with most hotels of this class, one MUST be discreet and not return with an out-and-out working girl. When I book, I tell them two persons and my girlfriend will arrive later. FYI, RCI timeshares trade into the Sheraton.

Anyone know about this place...

Hotel boutique plaza sucre, SUCRE OE2-36 Quito, Quito, EC

Basically, I'm looking for a place that I can bring girl(s) back to if I so choose without harrassment from hotel staff. I know how to carry myself when i'm out of town, so no wild orgies, where not allowed.

(1) I visited Ecuador from April 2010 through May 2010 and took the SIFA bus from Huanquilla, Ecuador to Tumbes in Peru. Soon the bus stopped in front of what I thought was the Ecuador immigration office where you get the exit visa stampled in your passport. I started to go out and asked the driver if that is where you get the exit stamp. I don't speak Spanish so I thought he told me that the office for getting the exist stamp was further ahead. What I realized later was that the driver probably did not want to stop there and to save time he simply gave me wrong info. By then we had reached the Peruvian immigration office and it was too late to go back and get my Ecuador exist visa.

(2) So my question is: will there be a problem if I wish to visit Ecuador again by bus from Peru, say in August or October?

[QUOTE=Obiter Dicta](1) I visited Ecuador from April 2010 through May 2010 and took the SIFA bus from Huanquilla, Ecuador to Tumbes in Peru. Soon the bus stopped in front of what I thought was the Ecuador immigration office where you get the exit visa stampled in your passport. I started to go out and asked the driver if that is where you get the exit stamp. I don't speak Spanish so I thought he told me that the office for getting the exist stamp was further ahead. What I realized later was that the driver probably did not want to stop there and to save time he simply gave me wrong info. By then we had reached the Peruvian immigration office and it was too late to go back and get my Ecuador exist visa.

(2) So my question is: will there be a problem if I wish to visit Ecuador again by bus from Peru, say in August or October?[/QUOTE]When you re-enter Ecuador, hand them your papers like everything is 100% OK. IF they give you some crap, act totally confused and surprised. Speak a lot of English until they get tired of you, then pay the "fee".

Does anyone know how much a taxi ride from UIO airport to Las Casas bajo or Mariscal sucre area should cost?

I will be visiting in Quito for 3 weeks in November, and of course plan to plenty on mongering. I want to take a side trip up to Lima, Peru for a couple days while I am there. My question is, will I have any problems with Ecuador immigration coming back to Quito? This may be a dumb question, but this is South America, I don't want to have any problems.

I am thinking of visiting for the first time. Can anybody give me a summary of the cost? I like bringing the girls back to my hotel for a few hours at a time. Which is a better hunting ground, clubs/bars, escorts, or massage parlors, and which is the city I should visit with the most potential for a newbie?

[QUOTE=Zoso895]I will be visiting in Quito for 3 weeks in November, and of course plan to plenty on mongering. I want to take a side trip up to Lima, Peru for a couple days while I am there. My question is, will I have any problems with Ecuador immigration coming back to Quito? This may be a dumb question, but this is South America, I don't want to have any problems.[/QUOTE]No, you will not have any problem coming back to Quito after visiting Peru. Just be prepared to pay $41 exit tax from Quito and $31 from Lima.

[QUOTE=Angelmio]I am thinking of visiting for the first time. Can anybody give me a summary of the cost? I like bringing the girls back to my hotel for a few hours at a time. Which is a better hunting ground, clubs/bars, escorts, or massage parlors, and which is the city I should visit with the most potential for a newbie?[/QUOTE]Chongos are your best bet in Quito and if you have good negotiation skills you can bring girls back to your hotel for a bargain. RTFF.

[QUOTE=Angelmio]I am thinking of visiting for the first time. Can anybody give me a summary of the cost? I like bringing the girls back to my hotel for a few hours at a time. Which is a better hunting ground, clubs/bars, escorts, or massage parlors, and which is the city I should visit with the most potential for a newbie?[/QUOTE]Quito and go to Cafe Rojo, that's all you need.

This year I am for the second time in apartments Mariscal (Paez y Robles) and for the second time they robbed me: when I was n´t at home an other guest had stolen my key and took my camera and money. Although I was sure which person had robbed me (confrimed by the owner of the apartments) the police refused to take action.

If you have plans to take apartment here: be very careful and look for other options.

Just flown from Medellin to Quit "LAN" drove to Coca (on Rio Napo 6 hours from Quito) and travelled down the river on a fast boat (Paisa girlfriend and I)from Coca to Nuevo Rocafuerte, Parque Yasuni, swam with the fresh water dolphins, then two more nights camping on the river until Mazan (15 minutes crossing by motorbike from the Rio Napo to the Rio Amazona, then 40 minutes in a fast boat to Iquitos, Peru.
Heading onto Leticia tomorow, then back to Bogota.

If any body would like more info, just ask.

I heading again to do this trip later in the year, anybody intertested, let me know.

Aussie Greg.

Calling your own policemen a bunch of ungrateful bandits?! lol.

Ecuador’s government declared a state of emergency on Thursday after protests by hundreds of police officers and members of the military produced a tense standoff between President Rafael Correa and rebellious elements of the security forces.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/world/americas/01ecuador.html?_r=1[/url]

The Irish Times - Friday, October 1, 2010
by RORY CARROLL

POLICE AND military units stormed the airport in Ecuador’s capital and burned tyres in front of their bases yesterday in a chaotic rebellion over austerity measures that cut their benefits.

Scores of uniformed men overran the landing strip at Quito’s main airport, forcing flights to be cancelled, and others confronted the president, Rafael Correa, in a dramatic showdown at a police regimental barracks.

Mr Correa challenged the protesters to kill him, according to local media.

“I’m not taking one step back. Gentleman, if you want to kill the president, here he is, kill him if you have the guts.”

The rebel officers responded with shouts, stones and teargas canisters, prompting Mr Correa’s bodyguards to spirit him from the scene.

The protests rapidly spread to bases and barracks in three provinces, with witnesses reporting looting, compounding a political crisis that could prompt the president to dissolve parliament and rule by decree until elections.

There was no indication that Mr Correa faced assassination, nor that the government would fall. The head of the armed forces, Ernesto Gonzalez, said troops remained loyal to Mr Correa.

“We are in a state of law. We are loyal to the maximum authority, which is the president.” The foreign minister, Ricardo Patino, played down the severity of the protests. “This is not a popular mobilisation, it is not a popular uprising, it is an uprising by the police, who are ill-informed,” he told TV network Telesur. The central bank chief, Diego Borja, called for calm.

Ecuador has a tradition of protests but to see about 150 mutinous members of the air force swarm through Quito’s Mariscal Sucre international airport was a first. The action was followed by hundreds of soldiers and police in Quito and the commercial capital, Guayaquil, who blocked roads, lit tyres and fired teargas. “Respect our rights!” some shouted.

There were no immediate reports of casualties and the president showed no sign of backing down. “They are a bunch of ungrateful bandits. No one has supported the police as much as this government,” he said.

The protests were triggered by a law passed by congress on Wednesday that would end the practice of giving medals and bonuses with each promotion. It would also extend from five to seven years the usual period required for promotions. The law needs to be published before it takes effect.

Mr Correa is a US-trained economist who has tried to slim Ecuador’s bureaucracy. His own party, the Country Alliance, opposed the austerity measures, prompting his threat to dissolve congress.

The constitution allows the president to declare a political impasse and dissolve the assembly until a presidential and parliamentary election. The measure needs constitutional court approval.

[url]http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/1001/1224280081450.html[/url]

Incensed officers shoved Correa around earlier in the day, pelted him with water and doused him in tear gas when he tried to speak to rebellious officers. The 47-year-old leader was taken to the hospital after being nearly asphyxiated by the gas.

Hours after Correa was roughed up, and surrounded by dozens of insurgent cops outside the hospital, the president declared himself "practically captive."

Some 800 police officers in Quito joined the protest, which appeared to have arisen spontaneously. The number of participants outside the capital was unclear. Ecuador has 40,000 police officers.

[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jKctbMk78vLE0q6KDZ3lYyL63y2wD9IIKD600?docId=D9IIKD600[/url]

Mr Correa has antagonised many powerful groups during his presidency, but the police have fared fairly well. In a bid to reduce corruption, he increased their salaries from $700 a month to $1,200.

[url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2010/09/ecuadors_striking_police[/url]

[QUOTE=Tungurahua]Calling your own policemen a bunch of ungrateful bandits?! lol.

Ecuador’s government declared a state of emergency on Thursday after protests by hundreds of police officers.......[/QUOTE]

Tung:

Yeah Correa is a piece of work. Educated at Univ of Illinois, Champagne-Urbana where he says he spent some of the best years of his life yet never passes on an opportunity to gratuitously bash the U.S. He's one to talk.

I followed this story yesterday on 4 different Latin TV channels that are part of my satellite service including the long shootout last night that succeeded in rescuing Correa from the police hospital. Wow. Talk about reality TV. Among other things it was highly entertaining, riveting.

Even today, there are several unclear details that raise some suspicion IMO. Most important among them: How and by exactly who was Correa being detained inside the hospital? I'm not doubting he was. The amount of gunfire last night was convincing enough but it's still not explained this morning even though the same channels have continued wall to wall coveraged. The police deny he was being held and that he and his bodyguards were unmolested inside the hospital.

Another detail not clarified today is how the situation at Quito airport was resolved. Early news reports said it was seized by rebelling air force personnel, not police.

Unrest, looting and travel disruption erupted throughout the country.

Aussie Greg if you're still in Ecuador and you read this: Did you run into any problems?

Schwmm

It`s pretty clear the CIA are destabilising Ecuador. Strength to President Correa and his people!

[QUOTE=Noddy]It`s pretty clear the CIA are destabilising Ecuador. Strength to President Correa and his people![/QUOTE]
I am shocked to read this! Are you saying that President Obama, savior of all humanity and noble peace prize winner would order such an imperialist action against the democratic socialist people’s government of Ecuador and specifically against President Correa himself?

To quote President Correa: “Socialism will continue. The Ecuadorian people voted for that. We are going to emphasize this fight for social justice, for regional justice. We are going to continue the fight to eliminate all forms of workplace exploitation within our socialist conviction: the supremacy of human work over capital. Nobody is in any doubt that our preferential option is for the poorest people, we are here because of them. Hasta la victoria siempre!”

Maybe the people of Ecuador are just getting tired of all the bull. Where is the progress? Social or economic.

[QUOTE=Noddy]It`s pretty clear the CIA are destabilising Ecuador. Strength to President Correa and his people![/QUOTE]Brilliant!

During the census next Sunday people are forced to stay indoors between 7 AM and 5 PM. Does anybody know how to avoid this? E.g. how to get a salvoconducto? I’ll be in Quito next weekend and I have better things to do. Any input is appreciated!

Ha! Don't think that's happening.

[QUOTE=Woody53]During the census next Sunday people are forced to stay indoors between 7 AM and 5 PM. Does anybody know how to avoid this? E.g. how to get a salvoconducto? I’ll be in Quito next weekend and I have better things to do. Any input is appreciated![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Woody53]During the census next Sunday people are forced to stay indoors between 7 AM and 5 PM. Does anybody know how to avoid this? E.g. how to get a salvoconducto? I’ll be in Quito next weekend and I have better things to do. Any input is appreciated![/QUOTE]

I was there for the census in 2001. I don't think there's any way around it. Absolutely nothing is open anyway.

You could just claim to be an ignorant foreigner that doesn't speak Spanish and see what happens. I wanted to try that but the family I was staying with advised against it.

[QUOTE=Dirty Willy]I was there for the census in 2001. I don't think there's any way around it. Absolutely nothing is open anyway.

You could just claim to be an ignorant foreigner that doesn't speak Spanish and see what happens. I wanted to try that but the family I was staying with advised against it.[/QUOTE]It's worse than expected: The census is in full swing and I have never seen Quito that empty. Nobody is on the road, except police patrols.

In addition the so called "ley seca" is enforced. Between Friday and Monday morning no alcohol consumption is allowed and police is behind this too. This has the unpleasant side effect, that all chongos are closed. As I didn't know I took a taxi to cafe rojo last night which was closed too. The cab driver asked by radio but the response was: No hay nada.

Thus I'm afraid tonight (Sunday) woun't be better.

[QUOTE=Woody53]It's worse than expected: The census is in full swing and I have never seen Quito that empty. Nobody is on the road, except police patrols.

In addition the so called "ley seca" is enforced. Between Friday and Monday morning no alcohol consumption is allowed and police is behind this too. This has the unpleasant side effect, that all chongos are closed. As I didn't know I took a taxi to cafe rojo last night which was closed too. The cab driver asked by radio but the response was: No hay nada.

Thus I'm afraid tonight (Sunday) woun't be better.[/QUOTE]
Being in Quito right now, I can confirm Woody's report. Yesterday (Saturday) I tried several chongos but they were all closed. Today, there is a curfew until 5 p.m. but the chongos will not open again before Monday afternoon. Bummer!

I have been to almost every country in Central and South America but never to Ecuador. I'm looking for a local, guy or girl who wants to make a few bucks and help me out. Here's the situation, I want to go on a vacacation to Ecuador (and bring a Cuban chica along. As most are aware Cubans are not free to travel the world but are permitted to travel to Ecuador as long as a citizen of Ecuador prepares an invitation letter. I don't believe there is any risk on the Ecuadorians part if that person runs into problems. It's nothing like the laws that govern Cubans in the United States. My understanding of searching the Internet and talking with other People who have gone that it's quite a simple process. Obviously many Cubans are using this friendly government arrangement to import clothes and make a buck, try to fake a marriage and gain citizenship, but many cubans that have a few bucks just want to get out of Cuba for a few weeks. If anyone can help with advice or provide me with a solid contact please send me a private message.

What is the current cost of a Claro sim card? Also the cost per minute for said sim card.

[QUOTE=Truckman;1189378]What is the current cost of a Claro sim card? Also the cost per minute for said sim card.[/QUOTE]In July this year I paid 15 dolar in an Claro office in Quito south.

I don't know anything about Montanita other than it's a couple hours away from Guayaquil. NEVER travel out of Guayaquil at night from the airport. Get a hotel, leave the next morning.

Be safe.

I was in Guayaquil in mid-September. 2011, exporing the Malecon, when I "bumped into" a reasonably attractive, professionally-attired, middle-class looking 30-year-old female named "Ana / Anita". She said she was there on business from Lima, Peru, and her family business was women's undergarments. Soon we were holding hands, and I suggested we go to my or her hotel. She suggested mine, and that we pick up some beers on the way (by now, the more experienced among you are saying RED FLAG!). We get to my hotel and she heads up the stairs without leaving I'd at the front desk (red flag #2). We shower, do some sucking and fucking (and she says "Salud!" every time we change positions, and we drink) , I cum, clean up, return to bed, resume our conversation, and that's the last thing I remember for 15 hours. She obviously slipped a drug in my beer, probably when she exited the shower first and I was drying off. She took a couple of $75 cameras, all four memory cards (one with about 250 photos, the *****) , some personal items and maybe $100 cash. Fortunately she did not physically harm me, or find my hidden passport or credit cards, but she had full access to my suitcase while I was "out". I had heard of some Scopolamine druggings in Ecuador by hookers, but since she was not ostensibly a hooker (and she was not cute enough for me to pay to have sex with her) , she took me completely by surprise. Live and learn guys, and watch out for this scenario. Karma is a *****, and maybe her next victim will catch her and make her pay.

Colorado, I am glad that you are okay The money can be replaced.

If anyone would like a wingman please contact me.

Yoamolatinas

Just wondering: what is the travel time from Quito to Guayaquil? Bus, car vs plane if any? Any good beach town with action or is it BYO there?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1260810]Just wondering: what is the travel time from Quito to Guayaquil? Bus, car vs plane if any? Any good beach town with action or is it BYO there?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Plane would be about an hour at the most.

Remember that as of Sep 30 there will be another digit to all cell phones for ex you need to dial 094900940 to call me but as of Sep 30 in order to call me you would have to dial 0994900940. As allways if you call from overseas you have to dial the suffix code which is +593 then the cell number

It appears these self-righteous communists fuckers have struck again and have banned mundoanuncio from posting sex ads in the ecuador section what a shame, you could allways find gems in that section. I will be on the lookout for sex ads in other sections of the web fear not my mongering brothers Doom has arrived.

Listen I don't do this often because in theory I am the ecuador "ecaudor" expert, but I am stumped where the fuck are there other sites like the recently shut down sex sextions of mundoanuncios. ?

As you may or may not be aware mundoanuncio which was the best and most reliable source of p4p chicas has stopped the practice of letting people put up sex ads this has to do with local laws that are somewhat hipocritical considering the level of permissiveness in this country however I found sources of ads that seem to be just as reliable.

[url]www.Evisos.ec[/url]

[url]www.anuncios.ec[/url]

[url]www.blidoo.com.ec[/url]

I've seen the posts about evios. Com and blidoo. Com, but for my money, Ecuador Sex Dolls is the best website to find hot chicas in Ecuador. The girls are updated regularly, you can comment and rate your escort, and the community is active. Perfect place to find babes throughout Ecuador.

I hope I am using the correct forum to post this. I have traveled so many places in the last forty years it's hard to remember. This forum has been extremely helpful to me for the last eight years. I have made several posts. All of my international travel has been for pleasure not business. I am not a high roller and since I retired I am doing my best to spend my kids inheritance. In my forty years of travel an attempt to rob me has been made about six times. Twice money was taken from me. Every time an attempt was made to rob me it was after dark and if you can believe this I was always within one to two blocks of my hotel. It has always been the same story. I am in a bar or restaurant a little tipsy and after a long day I decide to walk the short distance to my hotel. You know get a little fresh air before I retire. All my robbery attempts have been made like this. These incidences have been several years apart. I get a little complacent and wham. The last time was just a few months age in Buenos Aires and I was on a bust sidewalk. He didn't get much money maybe ten dollars. I bet there are other members that have had the same experience. Your walking down the sidewalk and out of nowhere someone comes up behind you and sticks his hands in your pocket and relieves you of your money. This isn't really a pickpocket. He doesn't care if you are aware of what he's doing, it happens so fast you don't have time to react. In this incident the weather was cool and I had most of my money in my inside jacket pocket.

So how do you protect yourself. Never carry your passport I don't care what the current wisdom is if the police stop you-something that has never happened to me, just tell them your passport is in your hotel room. If they give you any trouble just say this. I am personal friends with Hotrod 10. After a few days in jail I'm sure someone will bail you out. Did I mention the wallet. Never carry your wallet. When I had my wallet stolen it was my first night in the city I was exhausted after a ten hour flight and I just wasn't thinking.

When the sun goes down take a cab. If you are in a restaurant or bar just tell the bartender or someone that you need a cab. Don't make the same mistakes that I made.

This could happen any where, any country. There is a pouch that you could strap around your lower leg to keep your money, passport. It is sold at places like travel accessories. It is very useful! I have visited, Japan, Taiwan, So Korea, Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. In spent lots of time in Cambodi when Svay pak was open! Never had any trouble. To walk with few drinks on in estrange places is to ask for trouble!

OK guys,

Could someone help clear something up for me? I am trying to figure out what the deal is with latinamericancupid, and romancelatina. I joined LAC, and found varied results. Some chicas seem to be legit working girls, and some seem to be looking for a serious relationship. When I paid for the membership, the charge said something about "escorts". With that and the knowledge that many people have been talking about the sites on here (possibly other forum threads) , I assumed that they were working girls, but when I tried to set things up chicas are offended. Am I just contacting the wrong ones, or is this a legit dating site.

PS.

Feel free to poke at my lack of knowledge here, I am clueless with this.

Mine was in Lisbon. Here's what I do now:

Use the hotel safe, for passport, backup credit cards etc.

It's very important, put a note on the door for yourself to collect them on the way out. More than once I've caught myself at the last minute.

I just use my regular wallet, with my driver's lic, and cash and whatever card I want. Driver's licenses are good enough for I'd.

I also use pants / shorts with zippered pockets. I have some from llbean, and Duluth trading company. Duluth seems to be better.

I went to a nude beach in Italy, there I took only a photocopy of my dl and passport, and bus fare and beer money. No cards.

In Barcelona I was fingered twice in the same day. But my zippered pants easily saved the day.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1445934]I hope I am using the correct forum to post this. I have traveled so many places in the last forty years it's hard to remember. This forum has been extremely helpful to me for the last eight years. I have made several posts. All of my international travel has been for pleasure not business. I am not a high roller and since I retired I am doing my best to spend my kids inheritance. In my forty years of travel an attempt to rob me has been made about six times. Twice money was taken from me. Every time an attempt was made to rob me it was after dark and if you can believe this I was always within one to two blocks of my hotel. It has always been the same story. I am in a bar or restaurant a little tipsy and after a long day I decide to walk the short distance to my hotel. You know get a little fresh air before I retire. All my robbery attempts have been made like this. These incidences have been several years apart. I get a little complacent and wham. The last time was just a few months age in Buenos Aires and I was on a bust sidewalk. He didn't get much money maybe ten dollars. I bet there are other members that have had the same experience. Your walking down the sidewalk and out of nowhere someone comes up behind you and sticks his hands in your pocket and relieves you of your money. This isn't really a pickpocket. He doesn't care if you are aware of what he's doing, it happens so fast you don't have time to react. In this incident the weather was cool and I had most of my money in my inside jacket pocket..[/QUOTE]

For xtra security I use a locking cash bag that I place all the valuables in and then I lock this in the safe, I have heard rumors of "a little" cash going missing from the stash in the safe and seen a you tube video of staff opening the safe and removing some cash, so better safe then sorry, I bought mine on Amazon Master Lock 7120 D $18.00 of cheap extra security.

I will be Cuenca soon for some dental work and to check out the chica situation there. I was wondering if any one could recommend a good dentist with reasonable prices? Let me or the board know. Thanks.

[QUOTE=SamuRay;1446114]This could happen any where, any country. There is a pouch that you could strap around your lower leg to keep your money, passport. It is sold at places like travel accessories. It is very useful! I have visited, Japan, Taiwan, So Korea, Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. In spent lots of time in Cambodi when Svay pak was open! Never had any trouble. To walk with few drinks on in estrange places is to ask for trouble![/QUOTE]I use these too, they're quite good. I've got a couple -- the Eagle Creek one is quite good but make sure the velcro is secure. There are brands of travel clothing with hidden pockets: a good British brand is Rohan. Other places include under the insoles of your trainers. Trainers should be scruffy as some places will mug you for good-looking trainers. If they're new, I introduce them to some dried mud. One of the best places also worth using (eg a for a mobile phone) is down your crotch. Mostly the last place a mugger will look. If you have a sturdy (not easily slashable) backpack it is worth getting a padlock with a steel loop and locking it to a pipe or something immovable, and preferably out of sight as well, like under the bed. Don't keep all valuables and cards in the same place. Wear cheap local clothing. Have a few dollars' worth of mug money or a cheap disposable phone in an easy-reach pocket.

Imodium AD.

It is hard to find the good stuff here in Quito.

I bought a box with me, but did not check to see it was empty.

What a dummy. Almost 5 days of shitting.

Good evening,

Its definitely a toss up. You have women on there that are indeed working girls, then you have women there that are looking for love, and want to get the hell out of their country and come to America!! So it's best to skip that site and find the local escort sites of the sure thing. I've been on Brazilcupid before and there is definitely a mixture of both. It depends on what you want to do. I like to entertain a bit, then there's.

Times when I just want to take my frustration out on her insides! LOL the cupid sites are definitely good if you want to have a local to spend time with whenever you're in town. Especially the ones that only like a good.

Meal, a few drinks, good conversation and you still get what you want in the end. Plus they stay overnight without fees! LOL hope this helps.

[QUOTE=ColbySeven;1457881]OK guys,

Could someone help clear something up for me? I am trying to figure out what the deal is with latinamericancupid, and romancelatina. I joined LAC, and found varied results. Some chicas seem to be legit working girls, and some seem to be looking for a serious relationship. When I paid for the membership, the charge said something about "escorts". With that and the knowledge that many people have been talking about the sites on here (possibly other forum threads) , I assumed that they were working girls, but when I tried to set things up chicas are offended. Am I just contacting the wrong ones, or is this a legit dating site.

PS.

Feel free to poke at my lack of knowledge here, I am clueless with this.[/QUOTE]

I bought a box with me, but did not check to see it was empty.

After 20 odd years traveling all over the world I have found that prevention is better, I use a Pro Biotic on a daily basis and almost never get any problems.

Right now I am using a GNC product that seems very good.

There is almost 10 times as many reports of Quito as there is of Guayaquil funny thing is that most of the P4P are from the coast any ideas of why that is?

So I've been reading bad reports about this Easter period. As I'm travelling South America for a year, I wasn't going to be able to avoid it. So how does this work exactly? Is it just that a lot of the girls are on holiday or do the Chongo's close down during this time?

Is it just Good Friday and Easter Saturday / Sunday / Monday that are the issue?

[QUOTE=Joe100;2159697]So I've been reading bad reports about this Easter period. As I'm travelling South America for a year, I wasn't going to be able to avoid it. So how does this work exactly? Is it just that a lot of the girls are on holiday or do the Chongo's close down during this time?

Is it just Good Friday and Easter Saturday / Sunday / Monday that are the issue?[/QUOTE]Short answer: doesn't appear to have an impact in Quito at least.

I was in Quito for the week leading up to Easter this year and found plenty of activity in the chongos, massage places, and outcall agencies. I chatted w / girls at the chongos about it- according to multiple girls, most of the chongos don't slow down because most ladies don't travel home for the week. Easter Sunday itself might be pretty slow (but most Sundays are).

You guys post some very sexy, shapely women in Ecuador most of the time. I would fuck a chimp with a body like these. Is this the norm? Or is the norm like the 4 ft tall and 4 ft wide "real" Mexicanas I see in Tijuana and San Diego pushing baby strollers all over the place.

I was there a few years ago.

I can not believe how many white beautiful chicas that worked in these places.

[URL]http://www.fivestar-divas.com/ecuador-escorts/quito[/URL]

[URL]http://escort.guide/Ecuador/Quito/Escorts[/URL]

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-quito[/URL]

[URL]http://www.locanto.com.ec/masajes-eroticos/20901/[/URL]

[URL]https://ec.skokka.com/escorts/quito/[/URL] Watch out for trannies.

Backpage / Nenas Latinas.


Newspapers / Classifieds:

[URL]http://www.elcomercio.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.lahora.com.ec/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ecuador.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://www.evisos.ec/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.anuncios.ec/[/URL]

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2200153]You guys post some very sexy, shapely women in Ecuador most of the time. I would fuck a chimp with a body like these. Is this the norm? Or is the norm like the 4 ft tall and 4 ft wide "real" Mexicanas I see in Tijuana and San Diego pushing baby strollers all over the place.[/QUOTE]

I found this site totally legit its relatively cheap a friend of mine is the owner of the site, you pay a membership fee of $6 for 2 months and they give you access of phone numbers of different service providers in various parts of the country I have only serviced with the ones in GYE but is still awesome here is the site you all.

[URL]https://www.eliteagencia.net/[/URL]

How do you make the payment? $6 is pretty reasonable.

[QUOTE=Doombringer321;2251856]I found this site totally legit its relatively cheap a friend of mine is the owner of the site, you pay a membership fee of $6 for 2 months and they give you access of phone numbers of different service providers in various parts of the country I have only serviced with the ones in GYE but is still awesome here is the site you all.

[URL]https://www.eliteagencia.net/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2254718]How do you make the payment? $6 is pretty reasonable.[/QUOTE]Well I can see that you have looked at the site but have not read it or do not know how to read in Spanish the site gives a bank account # and what name to deposit under of course it would have to be done by a local, Banco del Pichincha only has one local in Miami in Brickell Ave if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=Doombringer321;2254914]Well I can see that you have looked at the site but have not read it or do not know how to read in Spanish the site gives a bank account # and what name to deposit under of course it would have to be done by a local, Banco del Pichincha only has one local in Miami in Brickell Ave if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information in my defense the word bank account is nowhere to be found I do see now the number and I did not know that was a bank name.

This report was an answer to another member asking a question but it needs to be in the general info section so that I may illuminate some folks on this issue.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1691-Photo-Gallery&p=2263805&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2263805.

Her stage name is "sirena del Mar." which means sea siren a Colombian hoe, since she is from the sea I had to introduce my big apex predator 40/ h she charge me 10 more for anal action love this fucking country. In Miami I would be broke.

All this ruckus is putting a cramp on my mongering life if this keep up I am ONLY going to get pussy at home good grief! Anyway it looks like all this rioting and looting will end sometime this week for those who are asking.

"Lockdown" is jail house term to describe the current mood in the country a little extreme term used for jail house professionals however not unlike the situation we are currently living in. All right gents the balloon has gone up we have confirmed we have confirmed 34 cases of CORONAVIRUS it propagated form migrants coming back and forth to Italy and the government does not want it to spread. Therefore they have cancelled all incoming flights and the nationals or residents that are from here have to go under quarantine that's more like house arrest for 14 days I mean the cops take you personally to your residence no shit folks chongos, gyms, soccer games, bars any establishment that is housing over 30 people only public transportation is working you can't even leave to another province that's the bad news the good news is that I don't give a shit cause I got plenty of hoes to call so cheers to you all that cannot currently fuck I shall enjoy in your name of course. Here are pics of a spinner that I fucked over the weekend.

Putting aside the issues of social distancing and such I am meeting my mistresses in the morning since there is a curfew at 1400 after that if we go over in the time they stay the night which makes my pipi happy but other than that there is not much to say on this issue it is what it is.

Curfew its at 1400 until the 12th but somehow I doubt it.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2434697]"Lockdown" is jail house term to describe the current mood in the country a little extreme term used for jail house professionals however not unlike the situation we are currently living in. All right gents the balloon has gone up we have confirmed we have confirmed 34 cases of CORONAVIRUS it propagated form migrants coming back and forth to Italy and the government does not want it to spread. Therefore they have cancelled all incoming flights and the nationals or residents that are from here have to go under quarantine that's more like house arrest for 14 days I mean the cops take you personally to your residence no shit folks chongos, gyms, soccer games, bars any establishment that is housing over 30 people only public transportation is working you can't even leave to another province that's the bad news the good news is that I don't give a shit cause I got plenty of hoes to call so cheers to you all that cannot currently fuck I shall enjoy in your name of course. Here are pics of a spinner that I fucked over the weekend.[/QUOTE]Dear fellow, is this girl from Guayaquil? Would you share her contact number and name?

Just to inform you all Coronavirus quarantine has been extended till the end of this week on Monday the governement will announce if it extend it another week that is all. Doom out.

To anyone paying attention and is alive in the board tomorrow the governemt will annoucne closedowns till the end of this month. On the positive note I have found a workaround to mongering girls are starving for money literally as long as you post a permit online and print it you can go monger with your favorita even the prices are going down love it love it.

To anyone that is reading or listening to the board since I appear to be the only one that is writing here is an update oficial from the government today. It's in spanish so put it on the translator or read it.

Cronograma de Reinicio de Actividades en Ecuador.

- 12 de mayo: Apertura pequeos comercios talleres why concesionarios.

- 23 de mayo: Apertura de LOS parques pblicos.

- 25 de mayo: Apertura de servicios personales.

- 26 de mayo: Apertura del trnsito nacional de la poblaciand.

- 1 de junio: Apertura de cafeteras, restaurantes why bares.

- 6 de junio: Apertura de centro de estudios (no quiere decir regreso de LOS alumnos a las aulas).

- 7 de junio: Apertura de hoteles why alojamientos tursticos.

- 19 de junio: Apertura del trnsito internacional de la poblaciand.

- 23 de junio: Apertura a la realizaciand de espectculos why deportes.

Fechas estimadas, sujeta a cambios.

I know most of you are lazy and will not bother with the details so let me give you the jist 1 of June "chongos" and bars will be reopened chongos is a *****house however international travel is not expeted till 19 June.

In the menatime attaced to this post is a hoe that I banged today for $30 after I escaped wifey and the quarantine I shall have to make the sacrifice of satisfying these women untill my monger brothers from overseas arrive is a chore I know but one that my pipi is willing to make enjoy and stay safe you all.

On the IATA website.

[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/international-travel-document-news/1580226297.htm[/URL]

I saw this regarding Ecuador.

Effective 1 June 2020:

1. Flights to Ecuador will be resuming.

2. Passengers and air crew must have a negative PCR test for Coronavirus (COVID-19) issued within 72 h before arrival.

Questions: Is this legit? If so, how do I get a PCR test? Any ideas?

I swear one time I saw on one of the Ecuador pages, can't remember if it was General info, GYE, or Quito, I looked several pages back on all 3 couldn't find it. Someone posted link to an independent escorts directory where you can set slider filters for what city, min-max age, min-max fee extras etc. Most of talent is con lugar. Anyone know what site that was?

Have a chance to take part of a week with a flight to Quito in October.

Am wondering if monger scene is better in Quito or Guyaquil?

Also are WGs available on Sundays or do they take off?

I think I found the previous mentioned directory with nifty search filters but if I did, 90% of listings vanished.

After today's level of madness the results are in folks so there is three options a Banker that's likely to rob everyone, a semi comunist 36 year old who has a degree from University of Michigan who happens to be controlled by a corrupt former president, and an Indigenous leader who claims the "indigenous right" shtick but is whiter as hell and married a French Brazilian by "ancestral right" whatever the fuck that means so in other words all of us who are currently living here are basically fucked in other positive news there is a second round of elections where there is going to be a repeat of todays madness so there is that.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNgiCgHPGo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJx8c8pr5ts[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIxyFjBBKfw[/URL]

In this videos is a fine example of competent social distancing and superior organisation that I have come to expect from Ecuador.

I have been in Ecuador for a few months and in my opinion using Tinder is by far the easiest way to get attractive women, most of whom I would describe as semi-pros or friends with benefits. You just got to match with them in Tinder and then chat with them on WhatsApp and arrange to meet. You can probably get them cheaper, but there are very few that will turn down $50, and a lot of them are very attractive college girls.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2444996]To anyone that is reading or listening to the board since I appear to be the only one that is writing here is an update oficial from the government today. It's in spanish so put it on the translator or read it.

Cronograma de Reinicio de Actividades en Ecuador.

- 12 de mayo: Apertura pequeos comercios talleres why concesionarios.

- 23 de mayo: Apertura de LOS parques pblicos.

- 25 de mayo: Apertura de servicios personales.

- 26 de mayo: Apertura del trnsito nacional de la poblaciand.

- 1 de junio: Apertura de cafeteras, restaurantes why bares.

- 6 de junio: Apertura de centro de estudios (no quiere decir regreso de LOS alumnos a las aulas).

- 7 de junio: Apertura de hoteles why alojamientos tursticos.

- 19 de junio: Apertura del trnsito internacional de la poblaciand.[/QUOTE]This is a very good one DB. You've done a valiant sacrifice.

The situation is getting more unstable by the minute thankfully it's a holiday but here is the situation the lead candidate has been caught receiving campaign contributions from a Colombian terrorist group named ELN so he might get suspended from the campaign in the runoff, Correa who did receive campaign from left wing guerrilla movements and narco traffickers as a candidate, is denying it so if the commission suspends the Arauz campaign expect some kind of violent reaction by its supporters.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2531014]I have been in Ecuador for a few months and in my opinion using Tinder is by far the easiest way to get attractive women, most of whom I would describe as semi-pros or friends with benefits. You just got to match with them in Tinder and then chat with them on WhatsApp and arrange to meet. You can probably get them cheaper, but there are very few that will turn down $50, and a lot of them are very attractive college girls.[/QUOTE]Do you take these girls out on date, or straight up arrange sex for money on Whatsapp?

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2531928]Do you take these girls out on date, or straight up arrange sex for money on Whatsapp?[/QUOTE]You can just arrange sex for money on WhatsApp. Obviously you don't want to be proposing sex for money to people who don't seem like likely candidates, but since I am in my mid-60's, usually women in their late teens or early twenties who like me on Tinder I'm looking for some kind of financial return rather than romance.

I did take one woman on a straight date on Christmas Eve when I took her and her children, and her sister out to eat at a restaurant, as she was having hard times and had lost a job in the pharmacy and was selling water in the street. However I did not have sex with her. She had rented an SUV for $20 for the evening so that she could bring my kids without exposing them to covid, so I reimbursed her for that also.

The employment situation is very bad because of the pandemic and there are lots of young women looking for opportunities to pick up extra cash.

If you are in doubt, you say something in a what's up conversation like "You look like you would know how to please a man in bed" and if they respond enthusiastically then you are basically off to the races.

This question was submitted by someone who I met on this site shout out to him however he is not the first one that has asked me this question which as you all know I make a habit of analyzing in depth. Brothels, spas, chongos, salsotecas and all establishments that have an affiliation with the sex industry in this country to THEM pussy is an appetizer, these people really make their money by selling alcohol or having them sells snack in the case of salsotecas / restaurants in red light and such, sex workers are independent contractors to them the do not work directly with the establishment otherwise they places would have to give them worker benefits and the girls would have to pay taxes, you see pussy is what attracts the customer base it's not however their source of income. As any industry it works by selling a product the better the product the better the service the more profits etc. However if that industry cannot make a profit by selling alcohol it creates a reverse incentive or a race to the bottom the best establishments cannot attract the best hookers because they do not have the client base to support them financially. So on paper it should be cheaper to get pussy however since the cannot ply their trade in establishments because of regularity reason I. E. COVID they have to "stay at home" now ounce you can get a hold of them since they are no longer fucking 10 20 guys a day maybe they are fucking 1 or 2 guys a day remember now the end customer the "john" is also hurting financially because of COVID these women have to adjust and charge 30 to 40 $ for their services because they have to pay for taxis and such and have to adjust to having to do more with less so prices stabilizing upwards not downwards.

Ecuador's National Electoral Council has suspended the recount in the first round of the presidential election requested by left-wing indigenous candidate Yaku Perez, who has alleged fraud denied him a place in the run-off.

The count was put on hold after the five-member council could not reach a majority in favor of Perez's request after holding a vote late Tuesday, with two for, one against, one abstention and another absent. "This plenary session of the National Electoral Council, unfortunately, does not respond to the request, nor does it approve or deny the report presented in the technical area" on the request for a recount, council head said.

Perez, a 51-year-old environmental lawyer, had formally submitted the request for a recount in 17 of the country's 24 provinces, the recount would involve about six million ballots, representing about 45 percent of Ecuador's registered voters, Perez won 19.38 percent of the vote in the February 7 election, just 33,000 votes behind his second-placed rival, right-wing former banker Guillermo Lasso, 65, who has also called for a recount, Economist Andres Arauz, a 36-year-old protege of former socialist president Rafael Correa, won 32.7 percent, which was not enough to win outright, and the race is now on to see who will face him in the April 11 run-off.

Perez alleges there was fraud to keep him out of the run-off after he was narrowly displaced by Lasso from second to third place in the middle of the count. "They are not going to defeat us, they are not going to annihilate us, the resistance continues. Today (the electoral council) has just made a decision that is left in limbo," Perez, the son of farmworkers, said after the council's announcement. Indigenous groups supporting Perez have called for rallies on Wednesday and a March to Quito to denounce alleged electoral fraud against their candidate, incumbent President Lenin Moreno's term in office ends on May 24.

After all these happy news what this really means is that another group of indigenous are about to start possible riots, on the one hand, we have the architect of Ecuador's dollarizations against the protege of Rafael Correa who is know to be corrupt as hell so start fucking smoke a blunt, do a line of cocaine in a girls pussy and otherwise just bust multiple nuts in different hoes because this shit is about to hit the fan, I shall be meditating on this issue as I concentrate myself on the nearest fatty and let the chaos blow over.

Was recently in Guayaquil and took the chance to meet Doombringer. Got to say, he's a straight up guy, knows the city, the scene, and will do you right if you meet him.

I was impressed to read his take on the Ecuador election. He obviously has a good understanding of what's going on here and his analysis shows what a sharp guy he is, intellectually. But don't let that fool you: he's also a down to earth, very funny, and very cool guy.

Thanks to you, Doom, for the help and friendship you extended to me while in your city.

[QUOTE=PolyOrchid;2533042]Was recently in Guayaquil and took the chance to meet Doombringer. Got to say, he's a straight up guy, knows the city, the scene, and will do you right if you meet him.

I was impressed to read his take on the Ecuador election. He obviously has a good understanding of what's going on here and his analysis shows what a sharp guy he is, intellectually. But don't let that fool you: he's also a down to earth, very funny, and very cool guy.

Thanks to you, Doom, for the help and friendship you extended to me while in your city.[/QUOTE]Well since we last saw each other, at least you will have good memories of Ecuador, I wish I had hope for the future, but I have been around Africa, middle east, and the defunct Yugoslavia I know all too well political and social instabilities and where they can lead, before Correa not that I am defending him we had 10 presidents in 10 years now that his semi dictatorship leadership is gone it appears that we are going to go back to the usual nonsense that goes on in this country, I am well prepared I have to refrigeration unit in case of food scarcity 1 have a functioning AR-15 several hundred rounds of ammunition, 3 9 mm along with dozen of clips I am a man of peace but I am highly intolerant of chaos or disturbances that will cause my pussy or food supply to dry up, I don't understand why we can't just have one big ass orgy and solve local problems in that manner, I just hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

The other day I was doing my round with one of my "mosas" (mistress) to the unenlightened, she had some strange strain of the legendary Buddha's delight Kush from Argentina, as I was blazing the high amounts of THC as she was sucking my dick and epiphany came to me.

In today's happy news, the electoral high council made an impactful decision first they will not do hand recount so whatever hope that Mr. Yaku had of winning the runoff election is out the window, so the election comes down to Arauz and Lazo, I have spoken ad museum about these two mother fuckers so I won't go into the details since you all want to know about where to fuck hookers and do multiple lines of cocaine through their pussies and assholes but I digress.

I have my own personal politics, however whatever I believe is the best way to govern a society is different since my cultural background is different, and this culture is primitive so they will not get it anyways, however there is something to be said for stability something that this particular small Andean nation is notoriously NOT known for.

DEMOCRACY or SEMI plutocracy which is what this country really is, came about after the end of a CIA sponsored Dictatorship that ruled the country till 1979 is really if you want to look at it this country is really 40 years old, if you look at the history in depth in these 40 years you had innumerable amount of coups, strikes and all sorts of highly unstable activities which do not lend itself to a well-run society, whoever win this election between a dictatorial left in the case of Arauz or Business US friendly right from Lasso they both will not rock the boat, they will continue their semi incompetent corrupt activities from the political leaning they belong to, the only wild card is if Yaku does protests but at least I will breathe a sigh of relief that neither my money food supply or pussy supply will not be affected.

I will continue to fuck my fatty until another epiphany comes as I anally her, keep on fuckin players.

Latest new from the prison riot that is going on in Guayaquil prisoners escaping going nuts just another beautiful day in the neighborhood.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72V732NC_uc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFKH5WtEXo[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2534367]Latest new from the prison riot that is going on in Guayaquil prisoners escaping going nuts just another beautiful day in the neighborhood.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72V732NC_uc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFKH5WtEXo[/URL][/QUOTE]To anyone who live in Ecuador or is an expat, there was a riot that started in 3 prisons simultaneously today in this country, after police took control and cleared the air there are at least 67 dead and 40 in critical care, not that the government gives a shit they certainly are not getting reelected so there is that. In other happy news apparently the autonomous cities can now independently buy COVID vaccines.

At least 79 inmates have been killed in simultaneous fights in four jails in Ecuador, one of the deadliest incidents in the country's prisons in years. The military and riot police have been deployed in an effort to quell the violence, which started on Tuesday, experts say the fights were prompted by a battle for control of the jails after a gang leader was killed in December, the number of dead is higher than the total of inmates killed in 2019 and 2020 combined. Early on Wednesday local time, prison authorities said the situation was now "under control", they updated the number of dead and said the violence had also engulfed a fourth jail, the deadliest incident happened in Turi prison, in the city of Cuenca, where 34 were killed. There were also fatalities in two prisons in the city of Guayaquil and in a jail in Latacunga. All of those killed were inmates, officials said.

Relatives of inmates await news after the acts of violence experienced inside the Guayaquil prison, in Guayaquil, Ecuador, 23 February 2021, relatives of inmates gathered outside Guayaquil's jail in the hope of getting any news, the first reports of fights came in at about 09:00 local time on Tuesday, Mr Moncayo said tension had been running high since the killing in December of Jorge Luis Zambrano, the leader of the Choneros gang, Zambrano, alias Itch, was shot dead in a cafeteria just months after being released from jail, during his time in prison, he and his gang ran a lucrative smuggling, drug dealing and extortion ring which mainly but not exclusively operates inside Ecuador's jails.

Soldier now stand guard outside a prison where inmates were killed during a riot that the government described as a concerted action by criminal organisations, in Guayaquil.

Tuesday's deadly fights are thought to have been over who should replace Zambrano and were said to have been planned and highly organised, according to Interior Minister Patricio Pazmiño.

Over the past two years, the government has twice declared emergency measures in Ecuador's jails, in May 2019 when 10 inmates were killed within weeks, and in August 2020, when a key witness in a corruption case was murdered inside his cell.

In other highly positive news apparently Ecuador is in the process of importing about a million vaccined from Pfizer corporation I guess they figure since they are good at getting old men erections they shoul be good at making vaccines.

That's all folks in Looney toones voice.

Doom out.

I went with one of my homeboys, to the world famous La Mansion night club and had to watch this dust up and my dogg took a video of it and there are two points that I have to make.

First in the video that is attached to this report you can see that there are very little patrons in this establishments as well as very few customers, as you can see there are tables marked why? You may ask because of social distancing.

Second point this video for those who have the ability to understand Spanish here is the scenario husband finds out that her girl works at a brothel, they have 1 kid together two things if you have a child together with a woman and you don't know that you woman is a hooker you are fucking stupid plain and simple, second of all the woman is mad at him why because he discovered her working in the club having sex with men for a living, in the dust up she revealed that "she was doing it for money" and he made the statement that he pays for everything weather that's true or not who knows, I will say this one more time for the record you can't make a hoe into a house wife I have seen far too many players fall in love with bitches, I get it western women are entitled they don't suck dick they are not feminine, the don't cook or clean, they don't take care of a man, but there is no way, that these particular type of women are any better look at the video really look at it, the lack of accountability the level of entitlement, here is this guy who clearly is a sucker but still working his ass off for minimum wage in Ecuador which is like almost 500 $ gives whatever is left of his salary to the woman and she is out there Thoting it up, this is hyper gamy at its finest. I feel sorry for the kid mom a hooker daddy a dumb ass yeah life has not started and already he has a great future.

Maybe I will have a future as a relationship expert imagine me as a relationship advice expert LOL. It's your boy Doom be safe players.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N01sRm_n9NU&t=1s[/URL]

General videos of diverse subjects which have occurred in this surprisingly eventful week.

The first video is my hommie alias the "pimp" he has presented me most of the girls that I fucked and posted in the Guayaquil board, the fallowing video is from another friend who is a worker of mine he is from Galapagos, there is night life over there including a surprise visit by a sea lion on the town. A fire which made the rounds in the wassap groups as I was going for an interview in a car and a fire broke out north of Guayaquil which occurred on Thursday, it took 300 idiots I mean sorry fire fighters to put it out.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZlPjlKTaE[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFlCzttK6So[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB25CV5FnYs[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K25X8KouDM[/URL]

In the first video, you can see the velocity in which some dumb ass motherfucking fucktards get robbed, on bicycle no less, so you players that are DMing about coming here pay attention when you are on the street you all. The second video some player gets fallowed from the motel with his side chick but the cucked hoe takes too long to confront the situation at the gas station the side chick intelligently plays to be a gas station worker and she apologizes to the husband for making a scene, I made a commentary on my channel about it watch and click like you all.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMrLZLO-USI[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWehMcSw_Tk[/URL]

Doom out.

This is a short video of a dead volcano very much a tourist today.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYmx0XlEjo8[/URL]

I was out hanging out in Medellin resto bar it's located in 6 de marzo y cuenca, believe it or not the girl in the video is named Angelina and is the owner of the bar.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vct8wPQFeBc[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2538084]

The first video is my hommie alias the "pimp" he has presented me most of the girls that I fucked and posted in the Guayaquil board..

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZlPjlKTaE[/URL][/QUOTE]So how did he get into this walk of life?

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2540418]So how did he get into this walk of life?[/QUOTE]Who know he is quite a character, but he is good at his job the fact that he used to falsify papers to get illegals in the US probably put him in contact with weird people.

The infectious disease of hyper gamy and lack of opportunity has arrived in Ecuador, far be it from me to criticize the current generation of player however I will continue to ruthlessly roast them for being stupid. Here is a simple exercise of logic WHY would you pay 20 to 30 $ a month to a woman so that she can show skin or even put a cucumber up their ass or fuck their boyfriend / lover / sugar daddy or what not, when for a minim of at least 12 or 15 $ you can get an average woman suck you and fuck you, if you put a couple of more bucks and want to be risqué you can go bareback and get BBBJ if you take them to dinner might spend like 40-60 $ depending on her taste and you can go all the way YET some human males even though they have these options, have opted to pay to see naked pics or videos of them fucking other guys. This definitely does not make any sense to me but yet somehow there is now an economic ecosystem who support these hoes and is all financed by young men I can't see locals 40 or above who participate in this foolishness. However, some of them look good here are pics of local only fan THOTS.

Its prob from Americans who live in sex prison and beyond porn seek a connection, which only fans is about.

If you live in a country where you can pay for sex easily only fans makes no sense.

So can we legalize sex work in America already?

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2541492]The infectious disease of hyper gamy and lack of opportunity has arrived in Ecuador, far be it from me to criticize the current generation of player however I will continue to ruthlessly roast them for being stupid. Here is a simple exercise of logic WHY would you pay 20 to 30 $ a month to a woman so that she can show skin or even put a cucumber up their ass or fuck their boyfriend / lover / sugar daddy or what not, when for a minim of at least 12 or 15 $ you can get an average woman suck you and fuck you, if you put a couple of more bucks and want to be risqu you can go bareback and get BBBJ if you take them to dinner might spend like 40-60 $ depending on her taste and you can go all the way YET some human males even though they have these options, have opted to pay to see naked pics or videos of them fucking other guys. This definitely does not make any sense to me but yet somehow there is now an economic ecosystem who support these hoes and is all financed by young men I can't see locals 40 or above who participate in this foolishness. However, some of them look good here are pics of local only fan THOTS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2541545]Its prob from Americans who live in sex prison and beyond porn seek a connection, which only fans is about.

If you live in a country where you can pay for sex easily only fans makes no sense.

So can we legalize sex work in America already?[/QUOTE]Therein lies my commentary these are Ecuadorian men or rather young men who are sponsoring Ecuadorian THOTIANAS, if millennial men are doing these it certainly is an indication of a more rooted problem in the interactivity of heterosexual relations in this country. I am now starting to see more entitlement in the women who are all after the gigachad the problem is that men out here are broke so the spoils go to the top 1% financially or the top 5% physically that leaves the rest sexually frustrated, but to pay for a "connection" as you say having brothels and other freedoms does not make sense to me, don't get me wrong the operated females are awesome but you can get that, by picking a girl at club just have to be choosy I mean there are even fat girls in Ecuador only fans who are doing the MILF thing WTF.

I don't live in Ecuador but I would think the average Ecuadorian is too poor to pay for onlyfans. Whos target audience is lonely people with extra money aka Americans.

Woman are always after men with the top money and looks, now its just easier. SA is the newest vehicle for this, if you have money you can get fake GFE from hotties.

I guess the lesson for me is make more money and try to be in better shape and everything will become easier, the rest we can't control.

If you are traveling for sex aka everyone on ISG then you are already in the top 1%.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2541744]Therein lies my commentary these are Ecuadorian men or rather young men who are sponsoring Ecuadorian THOTIANAS, if millennial men are doing these it certainly is an indication of a more rooted problem in the interactivity of heterosexual relations in this country. I am now starting to see more entitlement in the women who are all after the gigachad the problem is that men out here are broke so the spoils go to the top 1% financially or the top 5% physically that leaves the rest sexually frustrated, but to pay for a "connection" as you say having brothels and other freedoms does not make sense to me, don't get me wrong the operated females are awesome but you can get that, by picking a girl at club just have to be choosy I mean there are even fat girls in Ecuador only fans who are doing the MILF thing WTF.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2541492]The infectious disease of hyper gamy and lack of opportunity has arrived in Ecuador, far be it from me to criticize the current generation of player however I will continue to ruthlessly roast them for being stupid. Here is a simple exercise of logic WHY would you pay 20 to 30 $ a month to a woman so that she can show skin or even put a cucumber up their ass or fuck their boyfriend / lover / sugar daddy or what not, when for a minim of at least 12 or 15 $ you can get an average woman suck you and fuck you, if you put a couple of more bucks and want to be risqu you can go bareback and get BBBJ if you take them to dinner might spend like 40-60 $ depending on her taste and you can go all the way YET some human males even though they have these options, have opted to pay to see naked pics or videos of them fucking other guys. This definitely does not make any sense to me but yet somehow there is now an economic ecosystem who support these hoes and is all financed by young men I can't see locals 40 or above who participate in this foolishness. However, some of them look good here are pics of local only fan THOTS.[/QUOTE]Have you banged any Ecuadorian Onlyfan thotties before? Those ones look badddd!

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2541868]Have you banged any Ecuadorian Onlyfan thotties before? Those ones look badddd![/QUOTE]No and even though I have certain connections to some of these women I would not entertain the notion for a simple reason, mathematics if some let's call them models is getting X amount of $$ for getting her pictures taken or performing some acts weather be it solo or with someone, then product why in the case of hooking up with them because of the clout factor is going to go up exponentially upwards, there is a site who I won't mention you would have to look back at my previous posts years ago they had TV presenters charging like 300 $ an hour to fuck the site I believe is gone however modern day clout and notoriety is now being IG model and only fans cam girls so yes they are gorgeous some of them however they would if given a chance charge a lot more and at least in the case of my particular economy I would not be willing to pay whatever amount was asked, when like I mentioned before you can get regular hook ups for 20 to 30 $ with somewhat cute or average girls. Besides some of the girls are not exactly dime pieces look at the girl that I am posting she is not exactly thin, that's not a bad thing but she has an ONLY FANS account, she is and average at best, however girls like her and many others who are now models in the site would charge high price even though she is overweight her price is going to go up.

Her is an example of average.

This is to all of you who have written me throughout the years claiming Latin women are more feminine, they are more submissive, they are from a culture that know how to please a man yada yada yada. These Latin women while they are more submissive and they do come from a culture that takes lead from a man if you are not keenly aware of female nature and know how to keep your own masculinity and have an attitude of zero tolerance with the opposite sex, the same problems you have in the US or western Europe with women over there are the same problems you will have with women in any other culture, female nature and hyper gamy will not change because of race, creed, philosophy or ethnicity.

So allow me to show a clear example of what it's that I am talking about after my highly motivated rant here you have a woman in a domestic dispute she is claiming that he was going to hit her as you can see in the video Ecuadorian cops are there, but observe the level of anger, hostility and entitlement on the particular woman how is that any different, in female attitudes across women in the western hemisphere it's a good thing she went after a simp or beta males as they are now calling them.

Doom signing off.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6iqkwrQcRE[/URL]

A car crash between two buses it's sick as fuck you all check it out for the same reason you all watch NASCAR to observe the chaos, todays' guilty pleasure.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH_ozF0kV8M[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvwM5glFtw[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2544082]A car crash between two buses it's sick as fuck you all check it out for the same reason you all watch NASCAR to observe the chaos, todays' guilty pleasure.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH_ozF0kV8M[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvwM5glFtw[/URL][/QUOTE]WTF, was there no traffic lights?

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2544349]WTF, was there no traffic lights?[/QUOTE]Not only that they are public buses at that this fucker's are crazy.

Doom goes in a haze of ecstasy and tells a story.

I was out there today smoking some of that wacky tabacky with my hommie "The pimp" going over the performance of my latest conquest which I just finished sodomizing and through the haze of the copious amount of THC we are both over 40 and both grew up in Ecuador even though we took different path in life, but as always that's neither here nor there. Back when I was a kid in the 80's when most of you all motherfuckers where not even born yet, there was a huge fucking scandal involving Banco del Pacifico which at the time was the third largest private bank in the country now its own by the government because of mismanagement I believe an American bank was in the process of buying it, but to no avail, so anyway this scandal that broke out in the Pacifico back in the 80's involved the cashiers bank policy, at the time policy was to get the "prettiest" girls so the bank hired mostly Caucasian women, they were making minimum wage, they were dressed to the 9 with stiletto heels, pretty as fuck, perfume and all that, you get the point, now most of you who have had mistresses or have been sugar daddies, know that to keep a good looking woman it's expensive perfume, clothes, make up, gym membership costs money so here you have hundreds of women in these particular bank making low wages yet somehow they always look good for years, then BOOM the scandal broke literally hundreds of cashiers got arrested 3 managers where convicted of the equivalent of "white slavery" laws busted in a prostitution ring and ever since that time men of certain age in Ecuador always look at cashiers who look pretty and wonder. I mean let's be realistic minimum wage now is less than $500, that's not enough for some of these ladies to maintain their look, much less when you have a family and kids that's for sure.

So I went on a historical rant to say that I am far older and back in Ecuador enjoying the fruits of a young bank cashier now, her name is "Paula" will not put out her full name because I know some of you fuckers are thirsty and don't want you guys to track down and move in on my new favorite she charges a bit more but she spends the night I think she's single but who knows awesome performance even though it's pricey $60 for a couple of hours loves to suck and fuck.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2547186]Doom goes in a haze of ecstasy and tells a story.

I was out there today smoking some of that wacky tabacky with my hommie "The pimp" going over the performance of my latest conquest which I just finished sodomizing and through the haze of the copious amount of THC we are both over 40 and both grew up in Ecuador even though we took different path in life, but as always that's neither here nor there. Back when I was a kid in the 80's when most of you all motherfuckers where not even born yet, there was a huge fucking scandal involving Banco del Pacifico which at the time was the third largest private bank in the country now its own by the government because of mismanagement I believe an American bank was in the process of buying it, but to no avail, so anyway this scandal that broke out in the Pacifico back in the 80's involved the cashiers bank policy, at the time policy was to get the "prettiest" girls so the bank hired mostly Caucasian women, they were making minimum wage, they were dressed to the 9 with stiletto heels, pretty as fuck, perfume and all that, you get the point, now most of you who have had mistresses or have been sugar daddies, know that to keep a good looking woman it's expensive perfume, clothes, make up, gym membership costs money so here you have hundreds of women in these particular bank making low wages yet somehow they always look good for years, then BOOM the scandal broke literally hundreds of cashiers got arrested 3 managers where convicted of the equivalent of "white slavery" laws busted in a prostitution ring and ever since that time men of certain age in Ecuador always look at cashiers who look pretty and wonder. I mean let's be realistic minimum wage now is less than $500, that's not enough for some of these ladies to maintain their look, much less when you have a family and kids that's for sure.

So I went on a historical rant to say that I am far older and back in Ecuador enjoying the fruits of a young bank cashier now, her name is "Paula" will not put out her full name because I know some of you fuckers are thirsty and don't want you guys to track down and move in on my new favorite she charges a bit more but she spends the night I think she's single but who knows awesome performance even though it's pricey $60 for a couple of hours loves to suck and fuck.[/QUOTE]Great story and hell of a catch!

[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2547471]Great story and hell of a catch![/QUOTE]It's almost not really about the story, it's also historically accurate Ecuador is kind of conservative these topics you can't really look it up in google.

Shout out to a hommie of mine who sent me these video I posted it on my channel so that hopefully it can go viral, as you may or may not know in these particular country elections are mandatory they issue out a piece of paper to all citizens and legal residents it's a voter ID card that you need in order to carry it out any legal paperwork or just do taxes so everyone gets up on a Sunday and goes out to vote including prisoners something that as an American I find highly amusing, however people don't like it and here in the video is a citizen average guy telling how he really feels about voting and proceeds to tell the reporter that all candidates are assholes highly amusing for those that understand Spanish.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS0k7aIndiw[/URL]

The only fans apocalypse has come I knew it was a matter of time before it hit, these web sex workers were in the past charging between 100 to 150 to meet them sometimes that did not include fucking, here is the race to the bottom it has started, the business model is not sustainable for women that want to do this as a "hobby" if they wanted to do this for a living they have to constantly entertain their audience but with competition and a race to the bottom it's much better to just be a sex worker. Here is a chat group on telegram that I joined in Ecuador where some 40+ year old calling herself MILF something, she doesn't even look that good but still she is charging 60/ h 40/ half an hour to meet her it's still expensive you can find pretty tight women in their 20's for $25. So yes my brothers it has begun and in the end the customers win in these price wars.

This video is funny, well if it happened to you it would not be that funny, here is a simp bringing in a teddy bear and some mariachis and as you can see in the video the "boyfriend" is standing staring at the first floor of the house as he can see his significant other engaging in sexual acts with another man. Let this be a teaching lesson to all of you player who are stuck living in laland women have a dual mating strategy she has a "simp" who she is not that attracted to but needs resources from, she also has an "alpha" who she really is attracted to and will give anything to be in bed with him. It's because of this augmented level of hyper gamy that in modern times men are going red pill and MGTOW.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APD4sgpFhhI[/URL]

There's an old saying if you fallow girls you will end up with no money, but if you fallow money there will never be a shortage of girls. Here you have an old player enjoying the fruits of some sugar baby in his olden years right of 9 de Oct. In Guayaquil some Venezuela chic was filming yeah, she was fat but at 100 years old do you really think he gives a fuck.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD0qwNaQIN4[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2549265]This video is funny, well if it happened to you it would not be that funny, here is a simp bringing in a teddy bear and some mariachis and as you can see in the video the "boyfriend" is standing staring at the first floor of the house as he can see his significant other engaging in sexual acts with another man. Let this be a teaching lesson to all of you player who are stuck living in laland women have a dual mating strategy she has a "simp" who she is not that attracted to but needs resources from, she also has an "alpha" who she really is attracted to and will give anything to be in bed with him. It's because of this augmented level of hyper gamy that in modern times men are going red pill and MGTOW.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APD4sgpFhhI[/URL][/QUOTE]No fucking way jose! She did not hear the people outside going "ay" at her window? Obviously she did at the end, but man your life is like a reality show.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2550037]No fucking way jose! She did not hear the people outside going "ay" at her window? Obviously she did at the end, but man your life is like a reality show.[/QUOTE]Well let's be real the dating market in today's age's is like a reality show, but our human ancestor's would more aptly describe the current environment as a shit show. We the hobbysts as we used to be called in the net back in the day, we used to be called sexists, mysogonists and other names. But in reality, because of our hobby and proclivities we understand females nature and at least we are honest about it. We want pussy, sex workers want resources simple clean efficient, but dealing with women in countries were feminism has taken hold, means dealing with this kind of bullshit, it happens every day and I feel sorry for the young men coming up that are delusional and think that there are women who are out here worth a damm.

As many of you that watch the Ecuador board on a regular basis know I have a variety Youtube channel, here is my latest video right smack 15 blocks from my house somebody got whacked going to the election booth, don't get your panties in a bunch he was probably up to no good it's not as dangerous in Ecuador however it's good to be aware.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGiOJV87Upk[/URL]

A conservative former banker, Guillermo Lasso, has won Ecuador's presidential election following a run-off vote.

His opponent, the left-wing economist Andrés Arauz, conceded defeat hours after polls closed on Sunday.

With almost all the ballots counted, Mr. Lasso had won 52.4% of the vote compared to Mr. Arauz's 47.6%.

Mr. Lasso, a 65-year-old three-time presidential candidate, told supporters he accepted the "challenge of changing our country's destiny."

"It's a day on which all Ecuadoreans have decided their future," he said. "They have used their vote to express the need for change and the desire for better days."

This is an excerpt of news in BBC, this is the cartoon version of things, my opinion is secondary at this point he won let's deal with it, due to the level of instability in this nation it's doubtful that he will be allowed to lead considering the opposition is the majority they will sabotage him every step of the way. There is another thing to consider, this former banker was the economist minister when the country decided to dollarize itself while it has stabilized the country long term, it caused a massive migration to Europe and the US, families saw their capital go to zero overnight Mr. Lazo has demonstrated in the past that between his private interest in the country the country always comes second. I advise to all expat to divest their capital in offshore accounts so that you can weather the storm that is coming unfortunately social instability is not likely to cease in the near future. Attached to this report is a pic of my ballot vote that I wish to share with you all on how I really feel about this election.

There is a lawyer called Jaime Toral Salome, he is now a lawyer in private practice back in the day he was a loan sharker and kidnapper, while he is no longer engaged in his past activities he has now a private practice along with his son. He made a funny audio that I made into video format for those who speak Spanish is funny as fuck. Please subscribe and like.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ZFJrUO868[/URL]

DoomBringer321.

Calicuba in Guayaquil a brawl breaks out and cops don't do nothing be carefull out there.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HzJ5tl-bpQ[/URL]

Doom here back in action, another board member came in to Ecuador 3 days ago, however I will not be posting his name because I don't want you disturbing him on his ascension in the ways of the force.

Day 1 he came in and called my hommie the "pimp" and brought of the hoes from the stable she was a little fatter than the pics but most of them are anyway.

Day 2 this human who is old enough to be my father decided it was an intelligent idea to have a threesome the "pimp" came through like a gangster and provided said material ma man said he had an awesome time, at night he had another escort, a mulato woman who is part of my favoritas serviced him at night haven't posted pics of her yet, he also got some of that wacky tabacky in case any of you fuckers want to be judgmental it's legal to have up to 10 grams of whatever substance you desire.

Day 3 in case you people have not heard this country has lockdown in 16 out of 22 provinces Guayas being one of them so yesterday was fucking nuts everyone was buying up the shelves including myself had to wait two hours so that fresh chicken could come in bought 10 chickens since I have a huge freezer, so there are no clubs or chongos open until Monday however my main man the "pimp" is sending someone over later to the hotel got to love this fucking country. I posted a video on how I had to wait 2 hours so that I could buy live chicken. I also posted a video of the police smacking a mother fucker that was out in the street not respecting quarantine this people are serious about this shit they fear the Brazilian version of rona.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grpqpfE1ra0[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGe7RiJ8410[/URL]

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The lockdown ends the 20th if anyone is keeping score.

Manabí addendum. I have been asked repeatedly by some site member as well as foreigners and have been asked "where the baddest WG in Ecuador" this is a complex question, as well as a question of preference if you like African decent women you are not going to find them in Quito or Guayaquil the stick to the area known as Esmeraldas, if you are Pocahontas type of guy, you can find them in puyo or Lago agrio, but don't go any deeper these motherfuckers are extremely tribal even against Ecuadorians. And then there is Manabí there is no European presence in Ecuador per se basically the Spaniards or whatever Europeans were here fucked all the women and mixed in with the native populations, however there is a particular region of Ecuador where even Ecuadorians with money will throw down resources, cars, connections to get a women from this region and that's Manabí the reason behind this is quite simple, since Spanish times European migrants came to Manta and Bahia de Caraquez, skilled workers, artist, mechanics, teachers, entrepreneurs and pirates the area also had its share of slaves, so you got some exotic mixes in the area most of them are what I would consider white tanned but they are taller than most Ecuadorian women and a lot of them have clear eyes due to its European heritage.

In the link below is a video of Erika Velez she is a former beauty queen and now an actress however there is quite a lot of women from the region who look exactly like her.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MGEHE-2WY[/URL]

I have the new resolution for you all from the eternal wisdom of the idiots and corrupt fuckers who run this country so here we go.

The COE which is the emergency council that makes decisions in these times, in its infinite wisdom has decided to lift the curfew that was in place, it's now extended to 10 pm, but only for vehicles, you can walk around the street after that time looking stupid if you so desired.

Alcohol is still regulated so all you players who are used to macking over there in high-end clubs and discos are going to have to mingle with the broke folks in red-light districts.

Girl houses are open to the public however as I have explained ad nauseam in my other post that you all don't read, most of these establishments don't make money on the girls, their revenue stream comes from liquor sales, the areas where prostitution is openly practice are open, and they always have been however options are limited because of the lack of alcohol sales, so the days of 18 in Guayaquil or Calle Foch why Reina Victoria in Quito having hundreds of women roaming around are a thing of the past for the time being.

Escorts and escorts agencies are a thing nowadays, also incalls are becoming popular in the country however as I posted earlier about a couple that was robbing people in hotels you must be really careful.

Shout out to my man V that inspired this post.

As I was eating breakfast and my spouse started cooking eggs while I was sitting chilling and training my son for my eventual retirement and his inevitable rise as PIMP SUPREME in Ecuador I decided to communicate with my homie V in the US, he was observing how there is a business model difference in regards to prostitution in Colombia works visa vis Ecuador.

My homie was describing how he no longer prefers Colombia compared to Ecuador in part because it appears as though Colombian sex workers are now strict time watchers, and you get one of two scenarios that spoil your mood the dreaded knock on the door or the disconcerting request from the girls of "Leche".

I can explain the situation on how the business model of both countries is designed, here in Ecuador girls are not the source of revenue for the establishments, alcohol is so really no one gives a shit if the girl is fat, chubby, short, dresses inappropriately and what not because in the Ecuador business model girls are "independent contractors" they come and go as they please no one brings them to work in the profession do their relationship with the establishments is simply a matter of a place to exercise their profession at most they pay every time they go in the room 1-3 $ to the club for cleaning and usage of the facilities and so forth, most establishments put a CAP on the price forex. "El Gato" has a cap of $24 while "la 18" has a cap of $15 the CAP ranges wildly on mostly the reputation of the establishments and their talent, so the more formal establishment the better workers it attracts I. E. Prettier sex workers.

The Colombian model is wildly different in the sense that establishments spend resources to get poor women from their coffee plantation to the big city for work in the trade they clothe them feed them, so there is a vested interest in the establishment to get the most bang for the buck so to speak apart the girls are promoters of alcohol for the club as well, so I imagine these establishments in Colombia are money-making machines.

Here in Ecuador if a girl likes you and wishes to spend 2 hours with you no one is going to knock on the door and make you "hurry up" the "independent contractor" mentality equal to self-governing if the lady wishes to not make money it's her loss, not the establishment.

So are Colombian women more beautiful well yes, however, in my opinion, it's because they have a culture of taking care of themselves with makeup, dresses, femininity, surgeries and so forth, locals women here are not that conceited however I make the case that Ecuadorian women if they packaged themselves better they would 100% compete with women anywhere in Latin American, you have a nice mix of races here that produce an exotic mix of pussy not many white girls but if you like white girls go to Argentina or Russia, local women have less entitlement so there's less chance of you having to deal with drama something that my Colombian mongers complain constantly about Colombian women, they are more "homely" if you prefer that, and the prices are the same, all things being equal I call on my monger brothers worldwide to take another look at this little hidden gem called Ecuador, however, if too many of you show up and start simping and raising prices like you do every where else I shall have to fuck you up with extreme prejudice.

The end.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2567258]You have a nice mix of races here that produce an exotic mix of pussy. Not many white girls but if you like white girls go to Argentina or Russia.[/QUOTE]Amazing! Go all the way to Russia for some white girls? LOLOLOL! It never ceases to amaze me how many people just don't seem to understand how many white girls can be found in Brazil! I know because I've been fucking them for years (most in the butt). Hahaha! Latin America mongers you don't need to go all the way to Russia for some "brancas" (white girls). You don't even need to go to Germany! No, no, no! Go to Brazil! Plenty of brancas. Morenas and negras too! Believe this.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2567258]
Here in Ecuador if a girl likes you and wishes to spend 2 hours with you no one is going to knock on the door and make you "hurry up" the "independent contractor" mentality equal to self-governing if the lady wishes to not make money it's her loss, not the establishment.

So are Colombian women more beautiful well yes, however, in my opinion, it's because they have a culture of taking care of themselves with makeup, dresses, femininity, surgeries and so forth, locals women here are not that conceited however I make the case that Ecuadorian women if they packaged themselves better they would 100% compete with women anywhere in Latin American, you have a nice mix of races here that produce an exotic mix of pussy not many white girls but if you like white girls go to Argentina or Russia, local women have less entitlement so there's less chance of you having to deal with drama something that my Colombian mongers complain constantly about Colombian women, they are more "homely" if you prefer that, and the prices are the same, all things being equal I call on my monger brothers worldwide to take another look at this little hidden gem called Ecuador, however, if too many of you show up and start simping and raising prices like you do every where else I shall have to fuck you up with extreme prejudice.

The end.[/QUOTE]Bravoi! This was interesting and very entertaining to read. Thanks. I was just a couple of days ago thinking "how about Ecuador"? After all, I am so crazy for Latin girls that once I took note of an Ecuadorian girl that would have been highly inappropriate to mess with for me then, but I did remember the place for the source of where that sort of thing came from.

What you are talking about regarding Colombian establishments just confirms for me that I am not a friend of establishments, period. Now that you say that these girls in the establishments are essentially pimped out, I am getting even less interested in establishments. The self-governance is quite important if I want to get some feelings with the service. I like to be entertained with time so that the girl is the only one who would please with some enthusiasm or by all means let down with "leche papi. Oh mucho sexo. Estoy cansada" bullshit. But really I can't have some idiot knock at the door telling me to hurry up. Nope! So it is out-call for me, the heck if I have to pay more.

And that's where Ecuador perhaps falls at a disadvantage, since the out-call offerings of Colombia is vast and very interesting, even if I discount 50% of the girls on the various sites to be unresponsive or fraudulent. That still leaves more than all the offers I see from Ecuador. But I'd be curious. I did some search on SA and found not much there. So, probably it's Colombia for me still.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567338]Bravoi! This was interesting and very entertaining to read. Thanks. I was just a couple of days ago thinking "how about Ecuador"? After all, I am so crazy for Latin girls that once I took note of an Ecuadorian girl that would have been highly inappropriate to mess with for me then, but I did remember the place for the source of where that sort of thing came from.

What you are talking about regarding Colombian establishments just confirms for me that I am not a friend of establishments, period. Now that you say that these girls in the establishments are essentially pimped out, I am getting even less interested in establishments. The self-governance is quite important if I want to get some feelings with the service. I like to be entertained with time so that the girl is the only one who would please with some enthusiasm or by all means let down with "leche papi. Oh mucho sexo. Estoy cansada" bullshit.[/QUOTE]Outcall in Ecuador, let me clarify this issue as well by first studying mathematics, it's all about numbers obviously a country of say 50 million people will offer much greater choices than a country of 17 million people. Having said that and I am not being discriminatory or racist Colombians and for cultural and historical reasons are like Chinese they have a huge manufacturing base, they are experts at taking what you make take it apart and doing cheaper ala China, so there is a proclivity for entrepreneurship and creativity not found in other parts of Latin America, that being said if you add the influx of capital weather they came in from legal or illegal means Colombia as a whole has a grater capital capacity than Ecuador this is not a question but a statement, even here in Ecuador merchants that sell products the best ones are usually Colombian migrants, you go by any city in Ecuador the bread shops who are the owners Colombians, the guys who bring shit across the border, weather its illegal narcotics or black market products who are they Colombians, even in the illegal trade it was Colombians who taught Ecuadorians how to do drive-by shootings, and loan sharking, the first professional hitmen in this country guess who they were Colombians that before a former US service member taught people the art of marksmanship along with former cops that were fired for disagreeing with a former President. I don't say this from a place of discrimination but Colombians as a people, are extremely industrious and enterprising, Sooo this naturally translates to the world's oldest profession.

Colombia has a vibrant outcall industry simply because it's their nature to be commercial it's that simple and even now as we speak, just as a mental exercise go to Twitter and type "Ecuador hookers" or "Ecuador pregago" you will see a shit load of local Ecuador women or even Colombian women who ply their trade here in Ecuador, going from as cheap as $20/ h to solid 9-10 charing $200/ h so I refute your argument that there are fewer outcall services here in Ecuador, in fact aside from the obvious scammers or people with ill intentions which you find from Ottawa Canada to Patagonia, the Twitter, Baddo, Tinder, and Internet hook up and sex work is alive and well in Ecuador.

But my point is that despite the country being less commercialized outcall, there is in my humble view there is a prime opportunity to take advantage afforded in this virgin market shall we say, Covid has driven the prices down, high ends clubs have shut down you can literally find 9-10 going for half the price pre covid the market is ripe for some foreigners to come into the country and take advantage of them, that is before the girls wise up and see so many gringos and simps and fuck up the market as they have done in Panama and Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2567285]Amazing! Go all the way to Russia for some white girls? LOLOLOL! It never ceases to amaze me how many people just don't seem to understand how many white girls can be found in Brazil! I know because I've been fucking them for years (most in the butt). Hahaha! Latin America mongers you don't need to go all the way to Russia for some "brancas" (white girls). You don't even need to go to Germany! No, no, no! Go to Brazil! Plenty of brancas. Morenas and negras too! Believe this.[/QUOTE]So true, however, this whole "white women" conversation is kind of overrated aside from preference or racism, let's be clear here if you go to Wikipedia it says that at least in the case of Colombia 78% of the people identify as "white" in Ecuador there's a strong white presence due to mixing with pirates and European migrants in the Manabi area, it's social conditioning I suppose I have been to Europe I know the Caucasian races and white Latinos are not that, at best they are mixed however I do agree that there is plenty of White women to be had if you look hard enough.

Here is a clear example of an Ecuadorian white woman.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MGEHE-2WY[/URL]

I was out here chilling and shit I made a previous post on the famous Zic-zag bridge in Guayaquil, it also doubles now as Guayarte where the city hired graffiti artists to do some murals it's very artsy-fartsy area that leads to the wide variety of restaurants located in URDESA, so here is the link to my youtube videos please like share and subscribe.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fizPPJ7zbk&t=17s[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAju3wUt3g8[/URL]

I went with my spouse to the mandatory vaccinations station in the city they are distributing the Chinese vaccine I believe it's called SINOVAC, the city gives a basket of goods along with the vaccine it's actually pretty cool deal for people with lesser opportunities.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2583426]I went with my spouse to the mandatory vaccinations station in the city they are distributing the Chinese vaccine I believe it's called SINOVAC, the city gives a basket of goods along with the vaccine it's actually pretty cool deal for people with lesser opportunities.[/QUOTE]Be careful, Doom. I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but there is mounting evidence that the Chinese-made Sinovac COVID vaccine isn't very reliable. In countries like Indonesia, Bahrain, and Thailand where use of the Sinovac vaccine is widespread, an increasing number of people who received that vaccine are still getting COVID. It's becoming so alarming that countries that received the Sinovac vaccine are strongly considering switching to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. I'm definitely not trying to start a prolonged COVID vaccine debate in this forum, just merely pointing out what multiple news agencies are reporting online.

Stay safe. I know I speak for many when I say that I appreciate your Ecuador reports.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2583437]Be careful, Doom. I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but there is mounting evidence that the Chinese-made Sinovac COVID vaccine isn't very reliable. In countries like Indonesia, Bahrain, and Thailand where use of the Sinovac vaccine is widespread, an increasing number of people who received that vaccine are still getting COVID. It's becoming so alarming that countries that received the Sinovac vaccine are strongly considering switching to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. I'm definitely not trying to start a prolonged COVID vaccine debate in this forum, just merely pointing out what multiple news agencies are reporting online.

Stay safe. I know I speak for many when I say that I appreciate your Ecuador reports.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your concern, and while I am of the belief that this is man made, my decision as a certified private security officer has more to do with practicality than the belief of weather its right or wrong when certain critical industries won't sub contract unless you have a vaccine card then I had to reconsider also only the Chinese vaccines are arriving to Ecuador only retired millionaires are getting the Pfizer it's what it's.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2583437]Be careful, Doom. I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but there is mounting evidence that the Chinese-made Sinovac COVID vaccine isn't very reliable. In countries like Indonesia, Bahrain, and Thailand where use of the Sinovac vaccine is widespread, an increasing number of people who received that vaccine are still getting COVID. It's becoming so alarming that countries that received the Sinovac vaccine are strongly considering switching to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. I'm definitely not trying to start a prolonged COVID vaccine debate in this forum, just merely pointing out what multiple news agencies are reporting online.

Stay safe. I know I speak for many when I say that I appreciate your Ecuador reports.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the thought I also do not want to start a conversation on COVID it's what it's, personally, I believe it's man-made or whether deliberate or accidental escape as far as a gain of function research is a different situation, for me the decision was a practical one when sectors of industry start talking about requiring a vaccine card for subcontractor and me a certified private security officer in Ecuador needing subcontracts I just figured I needed to get it done and over with as soon as possible. When talking about what version of vaccines are around the rich guys got the PFIZER the common folk the rest of the 99% of the population got the SINOVAC like I said it's what it's.

Hello gents,

As always Doom has decided to teach you young wet behind the ears Millennials the ways of the force, masculinity, pimping, and macking.

This is the second part of an episode that happens every fucking day, in honor of Romper room this is another episode of Mr. Do bee and Mr. Don't bee.

As you players know I am always all about my game, my business, and my purpose until you mother fuckers blow up my goddam wassap with stupid messages and cannot leave me the fuck alone, however, every once in a while I get awesome intelligence on the hoes in the local areas, so without further a due here we go.

A long time ago a player known as Doom who in this story will portray Mr. Do bee got with a hoe on the world-famous "Isla del Tesoro" back in those days Isla was not filled with 8,9 and 10's as it's now, there were actually 6 and 7 dancing. This mulata sista who Mr. Do bee got with was a mixed Afro-Ecuadorian she fucked like it was nobody's business I am talking BBBJTCWS and BBBJWF it seems this particular mulata lady was catching feeling for Mr. Do Bee. But as a self-proclaimed Alfa male Mr. Do Bee understood that as a dancer and high-end call girl she was for the streets, you see gentlemen this is not about ego a call girl, sex worker, hooker, puta fill in the blank depending on the culture terminology and language, a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn, I will repeat this one more goddam time a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn.

You see gentlemen female nature is what it's and a woman is always looking to "shit test" her man or in many cases her men, in order to see who is worthy, they cannot help themselves they are simply slaves to their biological programming that seeks to find an imprint herself on the highest available suitor, as men we cannot fault this it's how we have evolved so it's incumbent upon us to always be one that keeps our shit together in order to prove to her we are worthy of her, and if not kick her to the street it's that simple gents.

So Mrs. Mulata at one point was fucking Mr. Do bee almost 3 times a week it got so bad that Mr. Do bee was thinking about divorcing his wife but a nagging feeling in the back of my head, always told me this was a bad idea, the sex was great, never boring when I spend my off days from working as Chief security officer, we easily fucked at least 4 or 5 times and this was a conservative number I did not care she was a hooker I was also catching feeling I ate her pussy raw, on her period it did not matter to me, she did ass to mouth I mean believe me when I tell you the sex was amazing, however as the months went by it was clear she wanted a promotion to main woman I thought long and hard and when she finally said the magic words "que somos" I said I will be whatever you want me to be however you are not going to be my woman I am not and will not, support you with your bastards children and have to deal with all your male side "friends" she cried but I was adamant, so naturally she left, I am not going to lie I was sad my pipi was even sadder but my conviction and resolution was not going to bend.

Here comes Mr. Don't bee in the picture, he is an older white American, he is kind, generous, and does whatever the mulata wants, you see gentlemen on the rebound she got with an older white guy, he was everything that I was not gentle, polite, and an open wallet, that romance has lasted 6 years in fact she currently lives in the US she sent me a texted me about 1 hour ago, through a friend of mine, telling me that she is feeling "bored" and that she filed for divorce awesome so let's fallow the logic please she left a "good man" that was attentive, kind and generous for what a better life in the US? Better opportunities for her and her bastards, sure however where does this leave Mr. Don't bee, emotionally and financially wrecked for sure, he invested time resources and emotions into a woman that in the end did not care about him at 71 years old this cannot be good.

The problem is gentlemen is that all of you including myself in the west have been conditioned to pedestalize women, to worship them, and treat them like these mystical creatures, women are as plain as a book, hypergamy is part and parcel of who they are as a species you cannot hate them you just have to understand them and adjust accordingly.

So the moral of the story gentlemen is this whether you are a monger or want to live a vanilla lifestyle, a woman who has been passed around cannot emotionally pair bond, and you will have to constantly have to deal with "shit test" it's better to leave her in the streets, it's never a good idea to upgrade a woman, work on yourself, travel, make yourself available to many women, but be on your purpose and women will gravitate towards you.

So the moral of the story is, be a do BEE don't be a don't BEE.

This is an old report from before the pandemic I don't know whether to weep or laugh at all the BS in the article but it's what it's.

[URL]https://www.efe.com/efe/english/life/ecuadorian-sex-workers-assert-rights-through-pioneering-union/50000263-4001560[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2585006]Hello gents,

As always Doom has decided to teach you young wet behind the ears Millennials the ways of the force, masculinity, pimping, and macking.

This is the second part of an episode that happens every fucking day, in honor of Romper room this is another episode of Mr. Do bee and Mr. Don't bee.

As you players know I am always all about my game, my business, and my purpose until you mother fuckers blow up my goddam wassap with stupid messages and cannot leave me the fuck alone, however, every once in a while I get awesome intelligence on the hoes in the local areas, so without further a due here we go.

A long time ago a player known as Doom who in this story will portray Mr. Do bee got with a hoe on the world-famous "Isla del Tesoro" back in those days Isla was not filled with 8,9 and 10's as it's now, there were actually 6 and 7 dancing. This mulata sista who Mr. Do bee got with was a mixed Afro-Ecuadorian she fucked like it was nobody's business I am talking BBBJTCWS and BBBJWF it seems this particular mulata lady was catching feeling for Mr. Do Bee. But as a self-proclaimed Alfa male Mr. Do Bee understood that as a dancer and high-end call girl she was for the streets, you see gentlemen this is not about ego a call girl, sex worker, hooker, puta fill in the blank depending on the culture terminology and language, a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn, I will repeat this one more goddam time a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn.

You see gentlemen female nature is what it's and a woman is always looking to "shit test" her man or in many cases her men, in order to see who is worthy, they cannot help themselves they are simply slaves to their biological programming that seeks to find an imprint herself on the highest available suitor, as men we cannot fault this it's how we have evolved so it's incumbent upon us to always be one that keeps our shit together in order to prove to her we are worthy of her, and if not kick her to the street it's that simple gents.

So Mrs. Mulata at one point was fucking Mr. Do bee almost 3 times a week it got so bad that Mr. Do bee was thinking about divorcing his wife but a nagging feeling in the back of my head, always told me this was a bad idea, the sex was great, never boring when I spend my off days from working as Chief security officer, we easily fucked at least 4 or 5 times and this was a conservative number I did not care she was a hooker I was also catching feeling I ate her pussy raw, on her period it did not matter to me, she did ass to mouth I mean believe me when I tell you the sex was amazing, however as the months went by it was clear she wanted a promotion to main woman I thought long and hard and when she finally said the magic words "que somos" I said I will be whatever you want me to be however you are not going to be my woman I am not and will not, support you with your bastards children and have to deal with all your male side "friends" she cried but I was adamant, so naturally she left, I am not going to lie I was sad my pipi was even sadder but my conviction and resolution was not going to bend.

Here comes Mr. Don't bee in the picture, he is an older white American, he is kind, generous, and does whatever the mulata wants, you see gentlemen on the rebound she got with an older white guy, he was everything that I was not gentle, polite, and an open wallet, that romance has lasted 6 years in fact she currently lives in the US she sent me a texted me about 1 hour ago, through a friend of mine, telling me that she is feeling "bored" and that she filed for divorce awesome so let's fallow the logic please she left a "good man" that was attentive, kind and generous for what a better life in the US? Better opportunities for her and her bastards, sure however where does this leave Mr. Don't bee, emotionally and financially wrecked for sure, he invested time resources and emotions into a woman that in the end did not care about him at 71 years old this cannot be good.

The problem is gentlemen is that all of you including myself in the west have been conditioned to pedestalize women, to worship them, and treat them like these mystical creatures, women are as plain as a book, hypergamy is part and parcel of who they are as a species you cannot hate them you just have to understand them and adjust accordingly.

So the moral of the story gentlemen is this whether you are a monger or want to live a vanilla lifestyle, a woman who has been passed around cannot emotionally pair bond, and you will have to constantly have to deal with "shit test" it's better to leave her in the streets, it's never a good idea to upgrade a woman, work on yourself, travel, make yourself available to many women, but be on your purpose and women will gravitate towards you.

So the moral of the story is, be a do BEE don't be a don't BEE.[/QUOTE]Lamentably, every word of this is true.

However, on the bright side, Ecuadorian women are horny as hell, and while they may appear to be reserved at first, once you get that first orgasm into them, they catch fire and there is no stopping them.

If you wish to pay for simple sex, you can go the the local zona de toleracion, enter a walled compound, and pay $15 to have your needs taken care of, but really Ecuador is not a mongering destination, because you can find it pretty much everywhere with little effort and familiarity with the country and the language. A script along the lines of "Hi, you are beautiful. What is your name? Tell me your Whatsapp number. " should be enough to get started on the primrose path with the women you meet when you are out and about. Of course financial gifts are still required to seal the deal, but I would always prefer an amateur to a pro, as they are so much easier to arouse.

I would recommend the dating App Tinder in Ecuador if you are looking for financially compensated sex with non-pros (meaning not street hookers). You can find some nice medical students, young doctors, law students, and, of course, street rats.

If you really want to turbocharge your profile you can state something like "en buscar de un suggar (or SB)". Alternatively you can write to your matches and tell them that they would make a great "suggar". I would also recommend actually stating what you are looking for in your profile. For example, if you want a medical student, or just a university student, then say so, and you are more likely to get matches from that demographic. This is because Ecuadorian women can be quite shy to start with and you need to make the first approach.

Oh, yes, one more thing--learning to speak Spanish is mandatory.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2583437]Be careful, Doom. I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but there is mounting evidence that the Chinese-made Sinovac COVID vaccine isn't very reliable. In countries like Indonesia, Bahrain, and Thailand where use of the Sinovac vaccine is widespread, an increasing number of people who received that vaccine are still getting COVID. It's becoming so alarming that countries that received the Sinovac vaccine are strongly considering switching to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. I'm definitely not trying to start a prolonged COVID vaccine debate in this forum, just merely pointing out what multiple news agencies are reporting online.

Stay safe. I know I speak for many when I say that I appreciate your Ecuador reports.[/QUOTE]I too have had 2 doses of Sinovac, which is made from a killed virus.

The situation regarding effectiveness of Sinovac is rather more nuanced than you have indicated, and while there is a lot to be said for mixing and matching vaccines to enhance immunity, Sinovac is pretty effective on the whole. Of particular note is that the epidemic seems to be very well controlled in China.

An issue in some parts of the world is to do with being sceptical of Chinese attempts to make friends and influence nations by distributing cheap vaccines. China certainly does seem to be doing more on this front that the US, which is home to several of the multinational drug companies with vaccines on the market.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57845644[/URL]

In another episode of Mr. Do bee and Don't bee, here we go again.

Mr. Don't Bee calls Mr. Do Bee the other day talking about a woman who we will call Bogota 6 because A. She is from Bogota and be. She is at 6 at best. It seems that Mr. Don't bee can't get enough of this woman, he has, after all, waited years to fuck her, you see gents she was his ex-wife's friend, so after he divorces he decides to pursue her in some exotic land called Ecuador Mr. Don't be is eager to please to be a good little boy and impress her as most Americans men have been taught, so he overpays in a hotel with a pool and buffet. awesome nothing says thirst / simp more than paying for more than what you need for some a woman's attention especially for a non-virgin 6 from Bogota in her 30's, but I digress. It seems that when Bogota 6 arrives, and she stayed a week with Mr. Don't Bee, she does a number on him what mysteries she did in the privacy of a 70 $ a day hotel is unknown to me, what is known however is that even though he came to "monger" after Bogota 6 left, he went several nights in a row to Isla del Tesoro and establishment known for having at least 7 and above sex workers, yet he did not partake in said mongering activities why you may ask, the explanation given by Mr. Don't bee is that he was "fucked out" by Bogota 6, amazing, so you come to a country to monger pay for 1 woman to fly from Colombia to Ecuador roundtrip just so you can fuck her in an expensive hotel by local standards, and even allowed her to make the itinerary, even though he paid for the trip, like I said amazing, Mr. Don't bee is from Chicago if you wanted a quick hook up with a colombiana all you have to do is narrow your search.

Criteria in any number of different dating apps you have tinder, badoo, bumble, eHarmony, Match, Christian Mingle, Ashley Maddison, FarmersOnly and many others, yet the SIMPING is strong with Mr. Don't Bee as it's with most western men, after much nagging from his wingman, Mr. Don't Bee finally starts to monger after not doing much of anything for like 4 days, yet it seems to Mr. Don't Bee cannot get Bogota 6 out of her thoughts, why? To men such as me, the vagina is not a mystery, it gets wet when it gets hot, it contracts when there is an orgasm, it expands when she conceives the end of the conversation. Mr. Don't bee has intimated that he believes he may have a future with Bogota 6, so let's be clear a man close to a 6-figure salary is going to potentially marry a woman from Colombia in her 30's bring her to feminist paradise USA so that after she divorces him and financially him with alimony and splitting of assets, because you know she is going to need it so spend the money with Bryan, Tyrone, Abdula, or Miguel since all these chads who are over 6 foot and have over 6 in. Dicks are going to need resources because they are broke, but we have to be understanding "because she is following her feelings" typical nonsensical bullshit espoused by western women the world over.

Now you have the story of Mr. Do Bee, you see gents Mr. Do Bee will probably die an unapologetic player, so one of his former paramours call him we shall call this stupid girl "the madam" like many women in the Orbit of Mr. Do Bee they all are competing for his attention and commitment however a player understands female nature and hypergamy and know that commitment can only be done after extreme vetting and even then there are risks, so Mr. Do Bee doesn't pay attention to any since that would be a distraction from his purpose. So to continue the story Mr. Do bee goes with the main baby mama and son in tow to the former paramour to hear what the latest disaster is, "the madam" informs him that she got robbed, apparently since she was TOO concentrated on her "boyfriend" she forgot that in the pimping game there can be no feelings your girls are your employees that perform sexual services for money on demand, that's all, like most employees they perform or get fired and replaced that's it, but "the madam's" heart is volatile and since she got her feeling hurt by the "boyfriend" she was not keeping her mind on her money and her money was definitely not on her mind, awesome, "the madam" proceeded to tell quite a tell apparently she forgot*due diligence on some girl in her stable, and she brought a couple of "customers" they were held up at gunpoint tied up and robbed, the recalcitrant employee and her crew staged a rape in one of the rooms that lasted a total of a minute even if it was a real most men take more than a minute to get undressed, so "the madam" get robbed her girls get spooked she now does due diligence and fires the one that carried out the inside job, along with other venezolanas, since Mr. Do bee has a business arrangement with "the madam" he is there to make sure that business get tightened up as soon as possible otherwise she will have to be replaced, she sobbed " you do that to ME" Mr. Do bee said "get your shit and your crew together, this is your fault" apparently the woman was more emotional than usual and almost cried and said "yes daddy" you see gents, Mr. Do bee understands that most women lack accountability, specially when they are used to having their way, why? Because there are always SIMPS out there to bail them out as if we men around the world have someone to bail us out.

This lack of self-awareness and stupidity would never be tolerated in any other area except in heterosexual relations in the west.

When Mr. Do bee finally gets in the car to go back home with the small minion of darkness called son, the MAIN woman says "so you fucked her" Mr. Do bee coolly replies "Yes, but before I met you" the Main one says "you are crazy you brought me here to meet your ex, you are nuts" this line of dialogue goes until he gets to the house and the shit tests continue until finally Mr. Do bee snaps and says "I don't want to talk about this shit you need to go cook dinner the baby and I will get hungry soon" and Mr. Do bee carries on as it should be.

You see gents this just happened a couple of hours ago, this is a prime example of two different men same age, same American upbringing, different result, Mr. Don't Bee overpays for P4P, Mr. Do Bee has many women in his orbit all competing for his attention; Yet pays attention to none except the baby mama and his purpose, Mr. Don't bee has a scarcity mentality and thinks of having a potential relationship with 1 woman, Mr. Do bee feels the baby mama is special but know she is not 1 in a million but 1 in millions of women, Mr. Don't Bee is thinking about potential marriage and will have to deal with the eventual divorce settlement, Mr. Do Bee will never marry and is an expat living in an Andean nation with no common in law marriage with property in his direct families name to protect his assets, Mr. Don't be allows a woman to organize him, Mr. Do bee puts his main woman in pocket after she tries to get out of pocket, Mr. Don't be panics one day and gets out of a wassap group dedicated to mongering after he tells his wingman the "I am afraid Bogota 6 will see something", Mr. Do bee shows videos to his main woman of the different strip clubs he visits, Mr. Don't be pedestalizes women, Mr. Do Bee gives women the treatment they have earned.

Different choices, different results, and to all men out there who are reading this true story with identities hidden, you need to heed this advice, stop the simping, stop behaving in an apologetic male fashion, we are men, women are our great motivators, however, there is a vast difference between today's woman and women of our grandmother's generation, can we change woman? In the west no, however, we do have options and choices we can either accept that the world has become a *gynocentric dystopia or we can choose to unplug from the matrix and walk a different path, blue pill or red pill,*the*choice is yours to make.

And as Romper Room says be a Do Bee don't be a Don't Bee.

Doom Out.

Today I received, my second dose of COVID I got my Vaccine card today I am officially authorized to give out hot beef injections to all pussies all over the world, in case you have not heard Ecuador was out of SINOVAC there was some stock of vaccines but they were Pfizer and Astro, but Ecuador over the weekend got 2 million vaccines from China so it's what it's.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLp290MB-Q[/URL]

Hi,

I'm a local, and I want to promote this website. I had sex with some of the girls promoted here. And I think this list is legit.

[URL]https://cleopatra.ec/listing-category/escorts-mujeres/[/URL]

In order to dispel the amount of fake news that is going on in Ecuador I will illuminate all the unenlightened so gather around children so that you may learn something, for the past 72 hours there have been difficulties with a bank the largest private bank that holds 53% of all of Ecuador's money called the Banco del Pichincha you see they publicly say they have "system issues" which is in a sense is true what it the real truth my intelligence sources have discovered that Banco of Pichincha and the Santander group one of the largest banks in Spain were in discussions to merge however in order to do that, Santander auditors had to hire a private audit group in order to investigate Banco of Pichincha they have been at it for 2 years what the audit resulted in is anyone guess that secret is buried deep inside the board of director's private correspondence with I am sure is extreme firewalls to prevent the info from getting out as well as non-disclosure agreements but after I am sure is an extensive review of the local bank the Santander group has declined to merge with Banco of Pichincha, and are NOW in the process of migrating the info that they had in Spain back to Ecuador it will probably be clear within the next 48 hours.

The thing is that people panic because they still have a fresh memory of a certain "bank holiday" in which most Ecuadorian capital contracted by as much as 80% when this country changed to the dollar around 2000.

Man things are getting crazy every day in these streets and people are getting dustier and more struggle by the day, the other day I received a notice from a man who is an ex-pat we shall call him J-man he thought it was an intelligent idea he appears to want ME to promote a sex worker to my pimping connections, it appears this player meet some girls in a site called seeking arrangements it seems this woman wanted to extract some money from J-man *shocking* not only that but her performance was apparently subpar amazing, all jokes aside you guys should take away a few lessons from this all of us PAY either upfront or as we leave, this is not rocket science woman do not love men, they love what men can do for them, seeking arrangements is a platform that asks men upfront what their salary is and there is a range starting from 100 K to 1 mill, so clearly is not for the average broke ass mother fucker, prostitution is not about paying for a woman's time is paying for them to leave and not bother you, I have heard from more than one goofy primate on how they bareback bla blah from a girl in seeking arrangements, well yeah but it's not "free" I and many others prefer the transactional aspects of sex so we are not bothered with bullshit later.

On other peaceful news, a former government official killed a high-end call girl because he got jealous so I will proceed to opine on that issue by repeating the words of a philosopher who shall be known as the pilot.

Dating music.

"Her job is to sell pussy. If you want to buy it and be her sponsor I am sure she would accept. If you don't want to pay the full price you need to let her stay where she belongs. In the Streets. Now is her time to fuck for cash. Let her. Then you only pay for the portion you use."

Give this motherfucker a goddam round of applause for such a philosophical rant.

Doom out.

This post has been inspired by a player that will be known as the J-man as well as others so the people have asked so they shall receive, it has come to my attention that a lot of players are under the impression that hooker is no longer necessary because you get "GFE experience" in places like Badoo, seeking arrangements and other such technological wizardry, in my opinion, this is absolute bullshit and I will proceed to illuminate you semi evolved primates as to why I have such opinions.

"Digital dating" is the apex of hypergamous behavior it is also the manifestation of the romantic female transformation, women in the west or who are westernized do not want men to approach them in public, they don't want to have to make an effort to look feminine and presentable in public to get attention, and they don't want to have to publicly display their interest in men, so digital dating was created in order to satisfy these objectives. Having said all of that and this is going to hurt people's feelings, it's "natural" for most women to want the men in their own community, it's only the natural state of affairs, I recall when I was in high school and was enrolled in Miami Springs senior high school, I dated nothing but white Cubans WHY? Well because Miami Springs had a higher tax bracket it attracted Cuban descendants who were professional, so I dated what was around me, the darker skin and poorer Cubans were in the ghetto in Hialeah this is not prejudiced it's a statement of fact, it's the same thing in the middle east, Africa, Latin America, Europe what have you, having said that what kind of strange feminine species goes online to actively seek arrangements pun intended; these women engage in this behavior for 3 reasons:

1. She is non-conformist, she has a situationship perhaps a single mother, and native patriarchal populations with good reason don't want to maintain a bastard that did not come from his seed excellent reason, in my opinion, she perhaps has been passed around and has burned her bridges in most non-western nation's men KNOW better than to commit to a woman who has been passed around.

2. She is trying to fulfill some fantasy let's be clear about one thing it's difficult to be a partner to a man who has standards, there's cooking, cleaning, and that's without having to deal with kids, modern women in all cultures are looking for "freedom" so because of culture, movies, the net they see the "foreigner experience" as a way to achieve said freedom.

3. There is no polite way to say this in most non-western country's men are not as dumb, and men in said cultures will not commit to women with high body counts who are career-driven, however, most western men have been conditioned to be simps and the thirst for female attention is so great that most men in the west will bend over backward for a woman's attention.

Having established that most of the women that go on these applications are not normal, there are pitfalls that you have to deal with, Badoo, tinder, bumble bee, and others, for the girls in these apps, once you advertise that you are a foreigner your attraction level will go up significantly that's all there is to it, even if you get BBFS on the first date no questions asked, ask yourself this question speaking as a man who has had sex with literally dozens of women on Facebook, Badoo and so on is she really FREE, see for you it was just sex, for her, it's a way out of the box that her society has put her in and she has a financial and emotional incentive to try to "lock you" down. We westerners both men and women we don't give a fuck about our bodies keeping it 100% most people don't hit the gym or eat healthy so obesity rate, heart disease and type 2 diabetes is high and we see sex as something casual, to women in these cultures it isn't casual, it's a way for them to survive and get a better outcome in life, this isn't news it becomes a problem is in the extraction process, you see all of you are part of internationalsexguide it's clear that you are not looking for a wife but rather someone to have casual fun with, maybe if the sex is good you can keep her part of your rotation most people in these ISG streets are players, an actor Charlie Sheen was asked ounce by a judge when sentenced for soliciting a prostitute why he would pay for sex he replied "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave" this is logical, to us who prefer this route and if you are a member of this board that is the reasoning that has been brought you to this site, as far as seeking arrangements I will say this about it, irrespective of what the girl you met there in the site gives you when you meet, remember this anytime a platform asks you to range your income and you have a floor of 100 k to over a Mill the standards of a women increase exponentially she is not looking for "fun" she is looking to be the sugar baby or wife to a man of value, and since I have been a member of the board for over 2 decades now, I know most of you guys are broke I recall the raging debates when it became a paid service to be a senior member so just imagine what a woman will do to you if you put in that you make a 100 k a year and don't fallow through with her expectations it will become a shit show.

Having made my grand speech here are some struggle women who are part of my dead fish alert, they have profiles in seeking arrangements however they are known to be "clingy", always struggling for money, don't know how to fuck, or just plain annoying.

I shall leave you struggle primates with the following happy thoughts.

In life we are a reflection of what we are and life will put you in your place.

A lady will have a home and a family, a Queen will obtain her throne, and a hooker will have her streets.

Doom out.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3OLLX5q8Ew[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUV0Fgtibqs[/URL]

As usual ma man Wilson is working non-stop to get the primo vaginal juices, which you players are craving here in Guayaquil. Even though most of you primates are going to MDE Colombia I assume because of the weather and the fact the weather is awesome and the variety of MDE sex workers, yes indeed an awesome idea let's group a bunch of American / Europeans / American residents in one spot by the millions so that the Simpathon can commence and make it more expensive for real players.

In the meantime, I will continue my indiscriminate profanations of the local vagina fauna and another sex worker coming in from the Capital of Quito to engage in slob on the nob as well as other highly motivating activities.

$40/ H.

Regards.

Doom out.

I am today as usual inspired and highly motivated by some of that buddha's delight, ma boys called me today and asked "hey boss man we need work for the hoes" this, as usual, is when I start yelling and pimp slapping people.

However, I am now a family man so I let the crew know that unfortunately Americans even though they came from a race of humans that had, the will, fortitude, and can-do attitude to become a superpower this is no longer the case.

I will state my argument I have had like 4 or 10 people sliding into my PM making observations around Ecuador, most of which end up pissing me off, you see players usually the observations go something like this.

"I hear Ecuador is dangerous" "I hear Colombianas are pretty" "I hear that Colombia and Peru are cheaper" "I hear that Medellin is much safer" as my old drill instructor used to say "cry me a fucking river" that was back in the day when barracks were not integrated, I can't see today's DI using profane language with about 12 to 15% women in a training platoon but I digress.

You see my fellow players gather around and allow Doom the opportunity to instruct you primates on some facts and statistics shall we, the level of safety is measured by the "crime index" this simple scale of 0-100 measures the level of safety compared to the US, the statisticians use the US as a benchmark since most tourists are American, Europe and parts of Asia are much much safer you could pass out drunk in the middle of a shitty neighborhood in Vietnam and almost nothing will happen to you, don't try that shit in Tijuana though.

The crime index goes something a little something like this when a country say Paraguay who has a crime index of 49.01 this means that Paraguay is safer than 49.01% of the neighborhoods in America this is the actual number BTW, so let us delve deep into the data to break this motherfucker down like a fraction.

Colombia which some of you rave about has a crime index in the whole country of 57.74, the breakdown by the city is attached to this report, this country, by comparison, Ecuador has an overall index of 56.85 lower than Colombia, but not by much. Here is where the rubber meets the road, the index only counts the totality of crimes reported, but here is one statistic where there is a glaring difference and it's the homicides rates, in Colombia, the rate flows from year to year and ebbs and flows from 24.3 to 27 homicides for 100.000 people, by comparison, the US has a homicide rate of 6, Ecuador an apparent hotbed of bedlam and chaos according to some has a rate of, wait for it 5.2 and the prison riots this year got it up to a projected 5.8.

So now that I have blown your minds, please tell me again how it's that you believe you are getting a better deal in Colombia, granted the women are somewhat prettier debatable but ok, Venezuelans had to migrate in mass for the established order of the sex workers to improve their services, and even when you take all of that into account, we are not even talking about the elephant in the room, the simping it's my firm belief backed by data that when you increase demand for a product say for ex. Pussy all you have done is increase its price not to mention the level of entitlement of said sex workers to such an extent that I get PM's all the time saying that girls no longer ask for pesos but dollars, some guys brag about walking around El Centro and paying 100 bucks for a hand job, so please stop the simping.

Doom out.

A report of my deep dive about this issue.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1078-American-Women&p=2625164&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2625164.

This woman is a scammer she uses her beauty to supposedly give you an onlyfans accounts take the money and not deliver.

In today's struggle news the daughter of "Fito" a gang leader that is currently in prison one of the 2 gangs who are in the process of depopulating themselves, had been released, a special wing of the police known UNASE took custody of the two young women who were kidnapped at gunpoint they had been held for 4 days.

I guess the upcoming fear of a conflict spilling to the streets, has been averted we can now go back to gangsters depopulating themselves in prison and in the streets Hip Hip Hooray, let's be clear about one gad dam thing the police did not "rescue" them in a SWAT or force recon operation, they went to an abandoned house in the woods and took possession of them they were unhurt, spooked but unhurt, so it's not as if the efficiency of the Ecuadorian security forces was a factor in those 2 young teenagers being released.

What I am aware of is that there is currently a conference in the Capitol between the president of Ecuador and Colombia, and among other things, they will discuss sharing intelligence and opening borders, how nice no more Ecuadorian intelligence officers being arrested in Colombia for thinking they are 007 nice change of pace.

Hope this is an omen for things to improve in Ecuador.

[URL]https://www.eltelegrafo.com.ec/noticias/actualidad/44/hija-de-alias-fito-fue-liberada[/URL]

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I am happy to report since I have had many questions asked, you now do not need PCR tests for entering Ecuador just a vaccine card which you will need to enter the establishment of working girls BTW.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2585006]Hello gents,

As always Doom has decided to teach you young wet behind the ears Millennials the ways of the force, masculinity, pimping, and macking.

This is the second part of an episode that happens every fucking day, in honor of Romper room this is another episode of Mr. Do bee and Mr. Don't bee.

As you players know I am always all about my game, my business, and my purpose until you mother fuckers blow up my goddam wassap with stupid messages and cannot leave me the fuck alone, however, every once in a while I get awesome intelligence on the hoes in the local areas, so without further a due here we go.

A long time ago a player known as Doom who in this story will portray Mr. Do bee got with a hoe on the world-famous "Isla del Tesoro" back in those days Isla was not filled with 8,9 and 10's as it's now, there were actually 6 and 7 dancing. This mulata sista who Mr. Do bee got with was a mixed Afro-Ecuadorian she fucked like it was nobody's business I am talking BBBJTCWS and BBBJWF it seems this particular mulata lady was catching feeling for Mr. Do Bee. But as a self-proclaimed Alfa male Mr. Do Bee understood that as a dancer and high-end call girl she was for the streets, you see gentlemen this is not about ego a call girl, sex worker, hooker, puta fill in the blank depending on the culture terminology and language, a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn, I will repeat this one more goddam time a woman never belongs to you it's simply your turn..[/QUOTE]This is so fucked up! Wow. My brain can't handle this story.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2567285]Amazing! Go all the way to Russia for some white girls? LOLOLOL! It never ceases to amaze me how many people just don't seem to understand how many white girls can be found in Brazil! I know because I've been fucking them for years (most in the butt). Hahaha! Latin America mongers you don't need to go all the way to Russia for some "brancas" (white girls). You don't even need to go to Germany! No, no, no! Go to Brazil! Plenty of brancas. Morenas and negras too! Believe this.[/QUOTE]But the flight fare to Brazil is few hundreds dollars more the flights to euro or spain. It is a shame that Brazil seems like being isolated from the entire fuxking world.

For those of you who have the capacity to read in Spanish and interesting article done by Extra the local national "yellow press" newspaper for those who are old enough to understand what yellow press even means anymore. This article was written to reflect the impact COVID had on the sex industry in general very interesting.

[URL]https://www.extra.ec/noticia/actualidad/duenos-bares-discotecas-chongos-dicen-restricciones-quebrando-61951.html[/URL]

In my capacity as the self-proclaimed leader of the Ecuadorian board, I have made a massive reorganization of my youtube channel and my tourism channel. Some videos I took down, especially the ones of some of the older hotels or the ones near downtown south which I no longer recommend since I got an arrangement in Sol del Oriente, and another one, some of the monger videos I have taken down for lack of views and some others I had to take down because some girls where bugging ma man "gringo loco" claiming that they were retiring so for those who have asked I have archived the links in one big massive compilation report.

Bars Videos: A list of bars that I have filmed inside quality is so so but watchable just follow the playlist there are about 10 videos of bars I will not list them one by one.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AApjFbj24aE&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPro_oii5MjtPJP-KdESQKtD&index=1[/URL]

Entrada de la 8 clubs: This is a complete compilation of 3 out of the 4 clubs that are located in "entrada de la 8" Guayaquil I will stress again the need for security in such places there are about 7 videos just follow the playlist.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjauyKdrPIo&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPrOiAX8VeP_hchv4SVcw348[/URL]

High-end clubs: This is a compilation of the more expensive side clubs in Guayaquil there are like 5 or 7 videos, just follow the playlist, some of the clubs don't even exist they remain for historical purposes since the high-end clientele took a hit because of COVID.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvvUhbEBCjo&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPpwPgwBYHyArPch_CZ_oPTH&index=1[/URL]

La 18: The most famous open-air red light district in Guayaquil I lost my virginity here decades ago it's also where I spend my only night in Jail in Ecuador the girl all love ma man "gringo loco" over there there is like 11 videos of the area most of them are short so just watch the whole playlist.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7IvHauLO8A&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPpYjsHhva6AZJmUhOpOt8JN&index=1&t=214s[/URL]

Isla del Tesoro: In my opinion, there is no better club or nothing that comes close to what we in the west would call a "strip club" experience than Isla del Tesoro it's big it has three dance stages it has seen better days but for those of us who remember Ecuadorian supermodels came out of this club, news anchors used to work here but what are you going to do times change it's what it's this playlist got like 5 videos I believe.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_qwB2KPvQ&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPrXkyd73XchhHwNJ3t_4gka[/URL]

Medium class chongos: These are the usual players not high class, not street level in Guayaquil the usual suspects gato Salome and so on although the clubs in "entrada de la 8" in my opinion could be considered high-class clubs just by the amount of infrastructure in it cut its kind of hard to consider yourself a high-class club when you are in the middle of the ghetto with 5 to 10 bodies dropping a week so it's what it's. The whole playlist it like 5 minutes several videos from several clubs all over the country.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vb8-Rex-M0&list=PL6r8BG1LRZPo3PiqLK1MNr-A5yidIN57C&index=1[/URL]

I shall add things to my playlists as I upload videos so just go to my handy playlist it's categorized bars, chongos, and high-end.

Hotels: this is the list of my favorite hotels in Guayaquil for budget and high-class mongers although I prefer cheap places I can't roll like some of you all are rolling too broke.

Hotel Presidente Review: usually more than 20 but less than 30 depending on the season the former manager of sol del Oriente is the manager now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGI0vra_c_A&t=22s[/URL]

Marriot: The name says it all not as famous as a Hilton it's for upper class I am what too broke to come here for sure guest fees and the whole nine.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBWYx2iQ8rA&t=1059s[/URL]

Hotel Unipark: The only thing I like about this place is that is located in downtown it has a good view of the cathedral not that I give a shit unless one of my side pieces has a fantasy of me fucking her on a balcony overlooking a catholic cathedral I am not interested there is a park next door but I have not interest in iguanas shitting on me it has happened it's worst than pigeon shit believe me.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-bzjUygekQ[/URL]

Hotel Ramada: Love the balcony overlooking the Malecon I might have to do a threesome right there in the balcony and film it so that my legend may grow.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfu4Sc_Bm-4&t=2s[/URL]

Wyndham Garden: I filmed this with Mr. Lucky an African American guy from Texas I love the fact that is near the airport, next to a mall however you will pay a guest fee plus depending on the season over 50 for a night here.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOvP23DLeA&t=2s[/URL]

Sol del Oriente: Olddie but goddie, I filmed this hotel with a guy named Zach that was backpacking Ecuador, especially Cuenca price over 20 for a night over here.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsRB-A2ekEI&t=31s[/URL]

Tropical Inn: The hotel where all of my adventures started it's still a great price for 22 bucks a night, gringo loco certainly did not complain.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpFNtIGAeR8[/URL]

Ecuador is now under "heightened security" in 3 different provinces Guayas, Manabi, and Esmeraldas in Guayaquil the entire south of the city is under martial law from 00.00 till 06 Am in order to cut down on crime in the upcoming communist holiday sorry "workers day" this, in theory, will last 60 days but who knows it might get cut down if the security situation continues not that it matters most girl houses don't go into wee hours of the morning and none are located south of Guayaquil way too many gangsters would congregate and depopulate each other if that was the case.

[URL]https://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/seguridad/estado-excepcion-guayas-manabi-esmeraldas.html[/URL]

Good afternoon players.

Sad music.

As some of you that have contacted me recently you may or may not know that my highly motivating channel dedicated to filming inside the clubs has been shut down, you know as I sit here and meditate on the fact that I have not visited the US for so long since I have become a struggling ex-pat that I am not even aware of what the fuck is happening in the west. I do not want to get off on a rant, especially a political rant since this is a prostitution board however I have watched the west from afar and the amount of oligarch control that corporations are exuding throughout the west is breathtaking on both sides of the aisle the left and the right can agree that the amount of corporate control going on in the west is getting obscene.

I say that to say this I never thought I would be personally affected by some of the stupidity that goes on in the west, but my channel got canceled "Ecuador after dark" never showed any nudity and if there was any it was in the context of a dance something that the community guidelines say can be done, it certainly was less than what you see in a Cardi be video or Iggy Izeelle showing everything but I guess a channel dedicated to unapologetically masculine activities cannot be allowed to continue in today's climate not that it matters much I have archived all of the content and will relaunch the channel under different auspices and will become a "color commentator" on mongering in Ecuador specifically shout out to Mr. L who is allowing me the use of his female talent in PartyEcuador for the purposes of interviewing girls and promoting them.

Interestingly enough my reviews on hotels are still on so you can still see them if you follow the links on the different hotels which I have published.

PartyEcuador.

[URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL]

Camilla, has been with two members on this board one from India and the other a Puerto Rican who goes by the name of "Sabor" on this board please like share and subscribe to my new channel.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jkfl_b7DVOQ[/URL]

Regards.

Doom.

In another episode of dusty news the fact that there is martial law in 3 provinces and a "heightened security" in Santo Domingo a city close to the bodegas where the store the "sugar" there was a riot in the jails that left at least 40 dead it seems that these humans are hell-bent on depopulating each other not that it matters much.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-61326507[/URL]

From the USA side.

I have come across some new reasons to be in Ecuador. Availability has me in Guayaquil, Salinas, Las Libertad, Montañita and Manta.

I really appreciate the advice provided but have some simple newbie questions:

From what I understand, Mr. Do Be would learn functional Spanish before venturing to these places alone and would stick with online hunting until then? I don't want to be a Mr. Don't Be but as I do have free time, my adventurous hobby spirit tugs.

Any advice for a budding Mr. Don't Be? Besides the whole no GPS / Pedestal-ing the puss. I expect to be wow'd, but I doubt I'll become infatuated.

Thanks again and I'll stay on the hunt to answer my own questions if necessary.

I have made a video presentation on Youtube kind of a general assessment of mongering in Ecuador as a whole in podcast format it will answer many questions for newbies and illuminate people just in case I am all about enlightening motherfuckers literally.

Why travel to Ecuador to monger?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hssyH0XBBZM[/URL]

What is the difference between coast women and Andean women in Ecuador??

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZO_NcJuWF8[/URL]

Doom out.

I watched your video and I want those minutes of my life back. So you have some nice rings. A complete waste of time, bandwidth, etc. And certainly didn't make me want to come back to Ecuador. So you like submissive women who will be faithful while you run around on them. I don't see the point of any of the video.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2728366]I watched your video and I want those minutes of my life back. So you have some nice rings. A complete waste of time, bandwidth, etc. And certainly didn't make me want to come back to Ecuador. So you like submissive women who will be faithful while you run around on them. I don't see the point of any of the videos.[/QUOTE]One of the things that we have to admire about the west is the certain "freedoms" that are available even if most humans have not necessarily earned any of said freedoms, my podcast was for those who can think the one podcast was about why come to Ecuador vis a vi staying home the other one is the difference between coastal women and Andean women such differences do exist.

Yet some feel that somehow the post was not illuminating enough well there is a revolutionary solution don't watch, the podcast was informative more than anything, however, such low vibrational opinions are never taken personally and are incorrect considering the amount of positive feedback that I got from members of this board plus my credentials speak for themselves hundreds of men that have come through this country and I have guided them to mongering paradise, some I have introduced them to their long time girlfriends others even got their favorite girls pregnant, there is even a tiny budding community of ex-pats in Guayaquil who have networked through me and still call me to manage their rotations, they were the ones who came up with my defense fund to get me out of jail so it's what it's.

The measure of a man is two-fold their ability to perform and their ability to call upon people in times of need it's the basis of any community small or large by criticizing without showing a better alternative or better yet, you make a podcast on how your call to action is so much better but that would take willpower and motivation, what you demonstrate by the hating is that you are what most people will ever be average at best, I have a higher calling to fulfill my purpose to get horny men living in the matrix in the west to have as much sex as humanly possible that has been accomplished and it's an ongoing process and evolution.

Doom out.

I did a podcast where I put the question of prostitution the options and the legality of said options and the historical context of prostitution in the general sense hope you all enjoy it.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OsUGY4XUo0[/URL]

This guy now lives in Colombia he is retired but he lived for years in Cuenca, he has a similar yet different opinion he is a fellow YouTuber who did a deep dive on dating women in Ecuador and he even had a video where he had 100 dates in 3 months check out his channel and his video on dating Ecuadorian women.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LMn2J0vdsQ[/URL]

Doom out.

It seems that party Ecuador has been going through some kind of a relaunch not that it matters they still have the same women follow their links they will give you their catalog in the back end.

[URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL]

So I made a series of videos lately about Ecuador's tourism and mongering for you all to enjoy.

Hilton Colon Review.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlovnRpvh6M&t=215s[/URL]

Oro Verde Review.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47q2iT9PBDY&t=96s[/URL]

Tonsupa New years 2023.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnp1E5AJPoE&t=239s[/URL]

Fresh veggies and fruit in Caraguay.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KlbP0UlAm8&t=88s[/URL]

A fresh poultry store.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCQnvT0CKQ&t=1036s[/URL]

The girls of Party Ecuador are on the prowl.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fSUV9_KU0[/URL]

Regards.

You all.

Well, it is election time in Ecuador and there has been a "ley seca" meaning no alcohol sales since midnight yesterday, as if any of these motherfuckers here make good elective decisions sober so the scene has been dead and will be dead till about 4 midnight Sunday since in theory there are no alcohol sales on Sunday, however, there is a holiday Monday so strip clubs and entertainment venues will be jumping on Monday.

So yesterday was election day in Ecuador for those that are not aware election is universal and compulsory in Ecuador there is even a polling booth in prison if you can believe that, so it seems that the "left" wing has won they are all supporters of a former president who has political asylum in Belgium and has yet to serve a day of an 8-year sentence for embezzlement SHOCKING in LA I know, not that any of that matter this country can turn totalitarian to something akin to what nazi Germany was or it can turn into something that would make Lenin proud but the real owners of the country are the People's Republic of China since the own the majority of the debt so I went there to vote no real problem at the end of the voting they give you a voting ID a proof that grants you a lot of access to goods and services including getting a passport in this country even if they anull their vote people still showed up I did my usual imitation of Picaso on the voting ballots as I do every time I need to vote locally hope you all enjoy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D216LY-WcTw[/URL]

I never realized till now how much arable land there is in Ecuador with just a little bit of money you can invest in all kinds of shit rice, cocoa, banana, you can raise chickens, and all kinds of shit so ma man Mr. L bought some property on an area called Petrillo and we are finally getting it ready to produce some happy rice. There is even some land up for sale near Mr. L's property.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYlaBozs6mc[/URL]

I just made an offer on a nice piece of property in Santa Marianita next to the beach Ecuador is underrated for the girls.

Copa Airlines will start Panama to Manta direct in August. The new airport opened up in Dec.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2789413]Copa Airlines will start Panama to Manta direct in August. The new airport opened up in Dec.[/QUOTE]What are the mongering options in Manta? Seems like a relatively small city.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2789769]What are the mongering options in Manta? Seems like a relatively small city.[/QUOTE]Its not a Quito. But between seeking, tinder and a few strip clubs. Manta is the 4th largest city in Ecuador.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2789887]Its not a Quito. But between seeking, tinder and a few strip clubs. Manta is the 4th largest city in Ecuador.[/QUOTE]Any intel on chongos? Though I guess it's not your thing since you mention SA (what are the going rates for online chicas BTW?).

Well, in any case, thanks for sharing, interesting option to consider, seems like it's warm sunny weather year round without much rain and not as hot as Panama or Cartagena.

Also looks like the direct flights from Panama will start end of Jun.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2789887]Its not a Quito. But between seeking, tinder and a few strip clubs. Manta is the 4th largest city in Ecuador.[/QUOTE]Manta is the 4th largest city yes however the problem with the mongering scene in that particular city is that Manta is also a hotbed for left-wing rebel activity and is also a non-regulated port that has been known drug smuggling, crews work there day and night the only place more dangerous is Esmeraldas which is a few hours away. One of the things that I notice about sex workers and women, in general, is that if they are used to gangsters and bad boys they will care very little about being good girlfriends to any men if its sex workers who cares they are for the streets anyway.

Are you saying that Manta is the second dangerous place to Esmeraldas?

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2789953]Manta is the 4th largest city yes however the problem with the mongering scene in that particular city is that Manta is also a hotbed for left-wing rebel activity and is also a non-regulated port that has been known drug smuggling, crews work there day and night the only place more dangerous is Esmeraldas which is a few hours away. One of the things that I notice about sex workers and women, in general, is that if they are used to gangsters and bad boys they will care very little about being good girlfriends to any men if its sex workers who cares they are for the streets anyway.[/QUOTE]

From both Tinder and SA. $40 for a few hours up to $100 for one that I see that lives over 4 hours one way on the bus and stays with me for 2 days of course they all say $100 but that don't mean that's what we pay.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2789926]Any intel on chongos? Though I guess it's not your thing since you mention SA (what are the going rates for online chicas BTW?).

Well, in any case, thanks for sharing, interesting option to consider, seems like it's warm sunny weather year round without much rain and not as hot as Panama or Cartagena.

Also looks like the direct flights from Panama will start end of Jun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2790475]Are you saying that Manta is the second dangerous place to Esmeraldas?[/QUOTE]Manta is not more dangerous than Esmeraldas and in fact, most of Esmeralda's crews make their money in Manta but that is not the point usually sex workers who have been ran through by gangsters are not that into regular folk the same way that women in their 40's who used to be hot and used to just date rappers and athletes can never ever be with a bricklayer, sure they are sex workers but since you are getting a subpar performance anyway why purposely go to a place where women have been rode hard and put away wet.

Finally glad Carnival is almost over. Sitting in the USA I complain on all the Ecuador holidays since everything is closed and no movement on my purchase as a result. But soon I will be on that side wondering why Ecuador does not have more holidays.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2789411]I just made an offer on a nice piece of property in Santa Marianita next to the beach Ecuador is underrated for the girls.[/QUOTE]

Second time a deal on property has become a no go. Heading back again in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2791794]Finally glad Carnival is almost over. Sitting in the USA I complain on all the Ecuador holidays since everything is closed and no movement on my purchase as a result. But soon I will be on that side wondering why Ecuador does not have more holidays.[/QUOTE]

So this news is kind of old, but what seems to be a lifetime ago or several years ago several ministers from that administration of Rafael Correa fled the country and revived asylum in several different left-wing governments in Latin America but one particular goofball did not put her affairs in order on a timely basis and had to feel to the Argentinean embassy where she received asylum even though she has an 8-year sentence pending for bribery and corruption as well as what we call in America violations of RICO she fled to the embassy of Argentina in 2020, a couple of days ago by way of magic I assume the embassy of Argentina informed the Ecuadorian government that she was no longer in the embassy apparently the Ecuadorian cops that were guardian the embassy were asleep at the wheel the only good thing Ecuadorian cops are good for is having a rotation of mistresses and keeping several baby mamas in their rotation and this particular lady is now in Venezuela were she received asylum so now there is a minor spat between the two governments what a shit show.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/ecuador-argentina-ambassadors-duarte-embassy-fa867e70abf63c6746d46309e86a3ef7[/URL]

In the many years that I have operated out of Ecuador, it's a rare occasion that I fail in my mission to entertain and fulfill male needs as much as humanly possible that is till today what a shit show.

So I had been talking to Mr. S for a while now I had an AirBnb set up the whole nine so he comes in on American at 1. 15 pm and I get a phone that I have never gotten in the past the player that I had been in communication with was detained at Ecuador Immigration checkpoint WTF moment 214 of the day so Mr. S is frantically calling me from inside the airport I cannot even enter to see him or talk to anyone because the Airport security is managed by a private company that will not allow you to go in unless the express permission of the government agents inside the pre-gate area. Mr. S is a professor of Spanish and Portugues so I doubt that there was a language issue but he was held there and firmly and politely told that he could not stay in the country and that he needed to leave he put an Ecuadorian agent on his cell phone and I was finally able to speak to a human he told me that regulations did not allow him to permit me to enter the inside area of the airport but that he was going to be well treated and that he was not allowed to go in the country because he had a negative recommendation on his passport by the source country in his particular case the US Mr. S has a criminal record in the past and Ecuador and the immigration agents exercised their power and discretion and made the decision to not allow him to enter the country, the reason given is because Mr. S had no visa a retarded statement since no visa is needed for a visit less than 90 days.

I took the shit personally but after speaking to some associates I finally got the scoop which I shall impart to you humans so gather around children Doom shall speak.

Ecuador in its eternal wisdom reserves the right to turn away any noncitizen and because of a current wave of corruption the immigration officials are being bigger dicks than usual why? Well, there was a wave of corruption cases that have exploded lately involving Albanians Syrians, and Lebanese who came in legally into the country and were given citizenship and allowed to set up enterprises as a front for illegal activities all the while circumventing regulations regards following due process in Ecuador. This caused the immigration office to suffer a wave of firings and the state of regulations is now in overkill mode I am certain the immigration office is not as bad as North Korea but it certainly is not like it was before.

As of the moment of this writing after much deliberations with an immigration attorney, it seems that there is a path to legal travel to Ecuador even if you have a heinous criminal past, and it's perfectly legal you can apply to the nearest consulate office of Ecuador there are several in the US and expose your case to the consulate assigned to that office he can review your case and give you a waiver but you have to have a local Ecuadorian attorney do it and have the documents apostille in the state that you live and have a local citizen to vouch for you and the whole nine so for all you naughty boys which there are many, you need to consult preferable with me or the people at the [URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL] they have a legal staff available to deal with this particular issues. In the meantime, an immigration attorney was able to get a pic of Mr. S inside being detained, at least we know he is well and will return to the US at 6 am I shall be working with Mr. S and coordinating with the nearest consulate so he can come in the future, although whether he will do so or not after this debacle is a different conversation.

So I have not done an episode like this in a while and I have been getting a lot of emails and Pms regarding what is going on in Ecuador and why is the supposed democracy we have in danger all fair questions so I will attempt to explain the foolishness that is going on in the country.

A long time ago to what seems to be a lifetime ago a particular president at the time who was rather combative in his approach to governance even though he was popular was afraid that because of his opposition to his government one day the opposition would be to such a degree that he would be out of power, no surprise he pissed off the US when he was a mere minister of government, gave Julian Assange asylum, put down an indigenous uprising, was in constant battle with a right-wing mayor that is just for starters, so it's no wonder he felt besieged therefore he created a mechanism in the constitution that is colloquial translated to "mutual death" aptly named it's the stupidest idea on the history of governance yet it seems to be on the books since 2008.

So the way this constitutional mechanism works is that the president and only the president has the authority to dissolve congress legally if he feels that they are impeding his authority, after such power has been exercised he can rule by decree for the period that it takes to call for a general election, everyone's position is on the ballot all of congress and also the president's if whoever wins whether the opposition or the incumbent president the day he is inaugurated he can start his 4-year term as it's counted since he won the new election.

The danger of this action is that if you are an unpopular congress person you are not getting reelected and if you are an unpopular president you are also not getting elected, chaotic, and unstable, it seems to me to be a recipe for poor governance hence the reason why it has never been used but since the president who it seems according to him being impeached over trumped up charges, he has hinted that such measure is on the table.

As usual, it's quite a shit show.

This is a question that has been asked by many people and many pms and sometimes the question has been asked to a pestering degree throughout the years, so this particular ad in the pic attached to this report is an ad that I found on Facebook for a brothel so this particular brothel which is looking for sex workers announce that a "ficha" which is the term for what the house charges for the "moment" is x amount of dollars the other fee is a fee for the cleaning for utilizing the bed staff and what not. This is why you see prices vary so much one club the "moment" is 15 dollars in another place is 21 and so on different houses set their prices differently.

Hope this illuminates you all.

So, there is a person who goes by Mr. P, I don't know him just got a text from him a few hours ago he wanted entertainment, so I sent him pics of the Party Ecuador crew he asked me about taking him to town he will spend several days I am interested in him having a good time, however, there is a particular issue that has been asked by him and others in the past and it has become somewhat of an issue. It is the good old bareback service now I am not going to get into the health aspects of it just not going to do it we are all grown adults and I realize that most of us should be responsible humans that try not to contaminate the world with STDs or STIS whether that happens or not is a different conversation, and I have no desire to debate the health aspects so putting the health issues aside, is BBFS viable in Ecuador?

The answer is maybe kind of sort of, prostitution as a profession in Ecuador is not seen in a positive light so the women that come into the game are already tense and shy so to speak, this is why Colombian and Venezuelan are somewhat more valued they are about their money and focused on the game, so since there is no culturally strong business model for sex work certain items here are not as negotiable as say Asia, the guys who I know got bareback on a regular consistently here in Ecuador like Nohope and the Pilot is because they put in the work, they are not just tourist in Ecuador one has a business here the other works here but if you think that most of you will come in and get bareback without putting in some kind of effort, like gifts, doing things outside of sex, taking them out to dinner and what not, well it's not happening unless she really likes you and that kind of defeats the purpose of getting a prostitute a comedian ounce said you do not hire a hooker to stay you hire here to leave so my 2 cents on the subject of bareback.

Are there Ecuadorian local forums like this? Looking for info about casas / chongos and strip clubs in Manta and Salinas.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2817427]Are there Ecuadorian local forums like this? Looking for info about casas / chongos and strip clubs in Manta and Salinas.[/QUOTE]No people when they want to talk about some shit create wassap local groups, they can't do it in facebook like they did in the past they will get banned so wassap and Spanish only.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2817496]No people when they want to talk about some shit create wassap local groups, they can't do it in facebook like they did in the past they will get banned so wassap and Spanish only.[/QUOTE]Que pena but thanks Doom.

I got the mysterious Mr. L an Ecuadorian Visa and ID the other day if people want costs and procedures Pm for the details.

You know back in the day when I used to be in uniform in the US back to what seems to be a lifetime ago around the 2000's there were these classes on how to behave when "off base" since you always had goofballs that wore all black American flags on their t-shirts, or regular American flags everywhere, or the famous paracord bracelet that few people even know their history or that they are even called paracord bracelet. So the powers that be wanted its young soldiers to at least "fit in" so they do not get identified, or the high and tights that were so high a drill instructor would blush, but the point of the situation is that that you needed to "blend in" then you got these goofballs in this video you see an extremely white, extremely loud, beach blond hair american not even bothering to speak Spanish being loud in a strip club in Guayaquil a good way to get spotted and get robbed I did not even advice him otherwise who am I to deny him of the opportunity for some character development by having some short locals rob his dumb ass don't get me wrong I am nice but not really.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYun89C4Pi8[/URL]

This was a post inspired by my homie gringo Loco he called me one day and asked why are there any racetracks in Guayaquil so I thought about it for a bit and I recall a time when there was a race track with betting and everything, however, since the economic downturn in 2000 there has not been a robust economy to support such business models but near my hometown of Samborondon so I made a happy video about it hope you all enjoy. The Miguel Salem Dibo racetrack has been around for 40 years it has a historical significance it is more active than the only other racetrack up in the Andes region of the country but this one in Samborondon is more involved.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIezBrjb66c&t=244s[/URL]

Anyone have any thoughts on the 60 Day State of Emergency after the assisnation??

Arriving August 23-Sept 5th. Still planning on going? But could it get ugly there? Be in Quito.

[QUOTE=Steve99;2842761]Anyone have any thoughts on the 60 Day State of Emergency after the assisnation??

Arriving August 23-Sept 5th. Still planning on going? But could it get ugly there? Be in Quito.[/QUOTE]The 60 Day State of Emergency has not taken place yet. They are pondering the issue. Quito? Why go there? For girls it is way better in GYE.

Now that I have done my due diligence with the PE legal team and found out the nuances and cleared the confusion regarding what is going on in the country and the executive decision that was recently made. So we are currently in a "state of exception" which means that the Ecuadorian authorities have the right to suppress certain rights, they have the authority to search and ask for ID and search without probable cause, and they can also enter property without a search warrant these are the facts, this decision was reached after a presidential candidate was whacked in a political rally. So after this event which occurred yesterday afternoon this executive decision was reached. Where lies the confusion a lot of people even locals are of the belief that the current state is either martial law or curfew neither what the current climate does is give more power to the state to carry out its activities for security reasons.

More importantly, how does this affect our hobby, it doesn't affect it in the slightest sex workers are still playing their trade adult entertainment establishments are still open, for example, I just got out accompanying a guy from this board to one of the most dangerous areas of the city of Guayaquil and the only thing I noticed was cops inside the club with assault rifles so there is a heightened sense of security.

As far as a danger for tourists or mongers this is not the case, the violence is directed towards intergang violence and there are corrupt politicians the guy who got whacked is a vocal opponent of the cartels and named leaders which is foolish. This country is not in a position to confront the cartel's head on the president has focused his efforts on getting prisons under control but the problem is much more significant than they admit and lack resources this is the 345 "state of exception" while comforting to some it has had no effect on diminishing crime the only way to deal with this is not to arrest gang bangers but to kill them or make it so unprofitable to engage in violence that the cartel leaders reign in their own people it's a business after all and they are governed by profit.

[URL]https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20230810/ecuador-asesinato-candidato-fernando-villavicencio-estado-excepcion-elecciones/2453753.shtml[/URL]

As of midnight Friday we have what they call "ley seca" which means sales of alcohol is prohibited because there are elections on Sunday as if the democratic process has been so successful with people sober if anything they probably need to be high drunk or both considering the clown show of candidates that there are out there. I on the other hand shall take the high road and do honours to Picasso on the ballot box I seriously want some suggestions if this election cycle I will draw penis, happy faces, or vaginas serious question?

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2842918]More importantly, how does this affect our hobby, it doesn't affect it in the slightest sex workers are still playing their trade adult entertainment establishments are still open, for example, I just got out accompanying a guy from this board to one of the most dangerous areas of the city of Guayaquil and the only thing I noticed was cops inside the club with assault rifles so there is a heightened sense of security.[/QUOTE]Only cops [B]inside[/B] with assault rifles? That's it? LOLOLOL! For people not used to seeing something like that it would scare the shit out of them LMAO! The cartels and turning Ecuador into a violent playing field of Colombian, Mexican, and even [B]Albanian[/B] criminals. Ecuador is in the crosshairs of the two biggest cocaine producers in the Americas, Colombia and Peru, and its dollarized economy is attractive to crooks looking to launder money. I know you don't want to over dramatize the situation, but don't underplay it either. This is a dangerous time for Ecuador which isn't what it was even 10 years ago. Which way is it going to go? We shall see. For the sake of the people who live there, I hope the authorities can tamp down on those thugs and run them out of the country. But, it won't be easy. Ask Colombia.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2845080]Only cops [B]inside[/B] with assault rifles? That's it? LOLOLOL! For people not used to seeing something like that it would scare the shit out of them LMAO! The cartels and turning Ecuador into a violent playing field of Colombian, Mexican, and even [B]Albanian[/B] criminals. Ecuador is in the crosshairs of the two biggest cocaine producers in the Americas, Colombia, and Peru, and its dollarized economy is attractive to crooks looking to launder money. I know you don't want to over dramatize the situation, but don't underplay it either. This is a dangerous time for Ecuador which isn't what it was even 10 years ago. Which way is it going to go? We shall see. For the sake of the people who live there, I hope the authorities can tamp down on those thugs and run them out of the country. But, it won't be easy. Ask Colombia.[/QUOTE]This is the kind of logic I have come to expect from people in modern Western culture, by this logic the most dangerous place on planet Earth is Tijuana I mean you got a legitimate case of unsolicited organ donations, drugs, robberies certainly gangsters shooting each other, so why is it that literally millions of Americans go there every year men and women to experience the "wild side" even "disciplined" humans such as my former comrades from the naval bases in San Diego, Camp Pendleton, Miramar and other literally cannot resist the allure of going bonkers across that small bridge into Tijuana, what Ecuador is experiencing is a shit show of proportions not seen since the end of the cold war where there was a budding left-wing guerrilla movement that was put down with no small help from the MOSSAD and the 75th Ranger regiment that trained Ecuador special forces is this current situation manageable perhaps, but none of you are the next reincarnation of Dan Daly, Smedly Buttler, Carlos Hathcock much less the legendary Audie L. Murphy so what are we talking about here? You people and yes I am generalizing either coming for business or pleasure you guys are not.

Coming here planning an operation much less actively engaging in activities that will cause undue attention to your punny selves, when and if people want to roll out who do they call? Me, that's it, do people venture out, other than touristy areas no, but even if Ecuador was in peaceful times you should not be doing that anyways unless you speak the language or have families members or friends that can advise you, I have been with the legendary gringo loco who is now 78 in areas where it seems you probably shit your pants and he stood out like a sore thumb, tall old white guy with a beard that rarely spoke Spanish yeah he got attention alright, but as a former corrections officer and who is old by definition, he had something that it seems that you people who are used to the sanitized streets of US or Europe (not so sanitized considering the chaos that is San Francisco, Baltimore) no longer seem to have, common sense, he also listened to my instructions that's it, he is no Rambo he focused on women and shut the fuck up and kept it moving, and it was not just mongering, he travelled the Malecon, he went to other cities with his girlfriend, but he never did anything stupid or took uneccesary risks, however if you are going to walk around like a goof ball, be loud without a care in the world in areas where even local do not roll, yeah you better be well trained because shit is going to hit the fan with a quickness, if perhaps you feel that travelling to Ecuador is by your definition so unsafe perhaps you should travel to the district of Colombia and visit capital hill, the White House, the district also by the way leads in being the highest murder rate in the US as of last fiscal year so truly I don't want to hear it, all of these countries and I do mean all of them are a shit show poverty, rampant corruption, graft, legacy of civil war in some cases started by world power rivalries, these countries are and will be for the next generation of my grandkids fucked up, that is just the way it's point blank and period. If people cannot find it in themselves to reach down their intestinal fortitude and somehow have fun and achieve their goals the most polite suggestion I can make is to stay home, there is nothing more that can be said on that topic.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2845200]This is the kind of logic I have come to expect from people in modern Western culture, by this logic the most dangerous place on planet Earth is Tijuana.[/QUOTE]I just saw a report on what's going on in Ecuador. It showed a police station in Guayaquil with sandbags piled up all over the place, even to cover up the windows. That's not normal. Now, they recognize the seriousness of the situation. So, why won't you? Look, nobody is saying that you can't go outside or that mongers will somehow be targeted. But that's not required. All you have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Like maybe in one of those puta bars with the armed cops standing around and something goes down. And you get hit in the crossfire. That's all it takes. And interesting that you bring up Tijuana because that's the one other popular place in the world I wouldn't be going to in order to monger right now. I wasn't about to go to Tijuana or Guayaquil looking for some pussy anyway. And what's happening now reduces the chances of that to zero for the moment. There have always been far superior destinations to visit, even before the heightened threats of violence in both places.

And FYI, I'm not somebody who just stays at home hiding out due to my "Western culture" fear as you would put it. No, you see I've been to over 50 countries on five continents my friend (some in active conflict zones so I know what danger looks like), and I'm hungry for more. And I'm able to do more because I don't travel and do things like hang out in places where the crooks are so brazen that they're literally killing high profile (and not so high profile) politicians in broad daylight (requiring the use of bullet proof vests) and hanging their sliced up enemies from bridges to send a menacing message. I don't need any chick's pussy that bad! I'll leave it like I did for the Tijuana threads. Be safe. I truly hope nothing happens. But, I'm not so naive to believe that it can't. These criminals aren't "honorable businessmen" who would never put civilians and / or tourists in harm's way, as was suggested by someone in the Tijuana threads. LMAO! Don't be naive men! And que le vaya bien!

Cane, I posted the Gente Bonita video to show people on this board what happened last March. I think they were targeted, because they didn't pay money. Who's to say that can't happen at the other Chongo places? Gente Bonita had a metal detector and security outside. I was patted down for weapons and showed my passport. That doesn't stop people from coming in with machine guns shooting up the place as you can see in the video if they want to. I don't see this happening in other monger locations, Thailand, Panama, Peru, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, and etc.

[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2845418]Cane, I posted the Gente Bonita video to show people on this board what happened last March. I think they were targeted, because they didn't pay money. Who's to say that can't happen at the other Chongo places? Gente Bonita had a metal detector and security outside. I was patted down for weapons and showed my passport. That doesn't stop people from coming in with machine guns shooting up the place as you can see in the video if they want to. I don't see this happening in other monger locations, Thailand, Panama, Peru, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, and etc.[/QUOTE]That's the truth my friend. If it can happen once, then it certainly can happen again. And that was in Quito. The violence and potential for more is even higher in Guayaquil if you ask me. Let's hope nothing happens (but the threats and attacks on the politicians and authorities continue):

[URL]https://time.news/nightclub-massacre-leaves-five-dead-and-seven-injured-in-quito/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gExq-NBcEU[/URL]

I have been to MDE, Lima and GYE more times than I can recall. In MDE I was robbed twice at knife point {once by a taxi driver } Also in Mayorista I had stuff stolen out of my room by a TLN Chica.

In Lima I was robbed by a Chica at Las Cucardas. One time in GYE I was pick pocketed for a small amount of goods. That was my only problem in GYE. I find that to me all these Country's are the same as far as getting ripped off. If you look at Doom's posts the guy he talks about who he calls Gringo Loco is me. Now I must say that having Doom as a Wing made me feel very safe in GYE.

Speaking of Taxi drivers I have found that the drivers in MDE are the worst as far as over charging, then Lima. In GYE I had very little problems with Taxi drivers.

No BOG is the worst.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2845516]I have been to MDE, Lima and GYE more times than I can recall. In MDE I was robbed twice at knife point {once by a taxi driver } Also in Mayorista I had stuff stolen out of my room by a TLN Chica.

In Lima I was robbed by a Chica at Las Cucardas. One time in GYE I was pick pocketed for a small amount of goods. That was my only problem in GYE. I find that to me all these Country's are the same as far as getting ripped off. If you look at Doom's posts the guy he talks about who he calls Gringo Loco is me. Now I must say that having Doom as a Wing made me feel very safe in GYE.

Speaking of Taxi drivers I have found that the drivers in MDE are the worst as far as over charging, then Lima. In GYE I had very little problems with Taxi drivers.[/QUOTE]

This is what I am talking about the last 2 weeks there have been 2 dead Americans because of "scopolamine" in Colombia Medellin by people in order to drug them and rob them, well these humans are not exactly chemical engineers so the doses are off and sometimes people die. I don't see the passport brothers or the greater monger community slowing down coming to MDE to get a girlfriend or pay for play in fact if anything Medellin is becoming the next las vegas, how long will it last who knows, the whole movement to travel to Colombia when did it start? During the height of Pablo Escobar's reign of terror obviously, this had to do with boomers and gen x wanting to get some happy sugar and some pay for play but that did not stop people. So this opinion that some have of "danger" while warranted has to be put in the relative context it belongs.

After much deliberation and somber reflection, I have decided to partake and a most profound civic duty the act of voting in such a respectful democracy in the pics are how serious I take my duties as you can see.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2845516]I have been to MDE, Lima and GYE more times than I can recall. In MDE I was robbed twice at knife point {once by a taxi driver } Also in Mayorista I had stuff stolen out of my room by a TLN Chica.

In Lima I was robbed by a Chica at Las Cucardas. One time in GYE I was pick pocketed for a small amount of goods. That was my only problem in GYE. I find that to me all these Country's are the same as far as getting ripped off. If you look at Doom's posts the guy he talks about who he calls Gringo Loco is me. Now I must say that having Doom as a Wing made me feel very safe in GYE.

Speaking of Taxi drivers I have found that the drivers in MDE are the worst as far as over charging, then Lima. In GYE I had very little problems with Taxi drivers.[/QUOTE]How did you get robbed as Las Cucardas? It's a strip club type place with a lot of management. Did the girl steal money from your wallet?

[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2845784]How did you get robbed as Las Cucardas? It's a strip club type place with a lot of management. Did the girl steal money from your wallet?[/QUOTE]I had been with here before so I let my guard down.

+She pickpocketed me.

So the other day with another member of this board we created an SAS company in Ecuador it is a type of Company (sociedad por acciones simplificadas) or SAS for short. It is basically a type of limited liability company that can pay taxes and can function as a corporate entity it was created for the relocation of the Tucan Bar [URL]https://www.facebook.com/tucanbarmontanita[/URL] to the Pink Iguana which will in the future become some club / hostel / restaurant whatever it becomes I hope that my friends who I have helped start this enterprise with succeed in their endeavors coming soon with videos of the place that I will post on my tourism channel [URL]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC5KS4_IwkMiMqO7Lf10qEg[/URL] if you guys that are digital nomads and ex-pats and want to create or need help transitioning give us a call we have a legal team at [URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL] to help with such adventures. We then proceeded to drink in a celebratory fashion at the bar area of the Hilton Colon in Guayaquil.

The new location of the Tucan bar.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/La-Iguana-Rosada/105180747983451[/URL]

I did a better job of editing the face out this was an intellectual and thoughtful discussion on pussy hope you all enjoy it.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrrahMnzDjI&t=333s[/URL]

Last week a player wanted some entertainment, he had been hitting me up for some time but we could not hook up finally I was able to bring a [URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL] girl to his location the Hotel Marriot courtyard in Guayaquil we talked about many various topics but when of the things that we discussed was the recent wave of violence in Ecuador decided to upload a video of the conversation up on youtube for those that have asked why are we having these problems in Ecuador lately also one of the girls that took care of him was there by my side after giving him a bomb ass session.

[URL]https://youtu.be/nK2zbSfGRn8?si=SjFmzNQHCJPZIUa1[/URL]

This a commentary on Mr. British who was locked up here in Ecuador over a woman you all should listen to the conversation and learn.

[URL]https://youtu.be/xDK-TW-YT00?si=imA0JKfochstenAN[/URL]

I had an interview with a passport bro about mongering in Colombia and the situations with some of them.

[URL]https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=E31n5C8Dkg29Ln_R[/URL]

I keep hearing from players how OMG Ecuadorian women are so submissive the cook clean they give this treatment and that treatment and this is all good and dandy because it is true however what some of you homies do not realize is how vindictive Ecuadorian women can get. Check out the example of this goofball who did not do his due diligence in hiding his rotations hence the consequences without further adue.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y-zXNzdEvyc?si=ZYqrqfnFm2rQVFgN[/URL]

This tradition as I have repeated in previous years is about a celebration of life the effigies that get burned on New Year's Eve get very creative I made a video about it on YouTube check it out you all.

Effigies in Guayaquil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/WQ-9AuLOooo?si=7G-eGmg_Rj0mXuxs[/URL]

Violence in the streets and on the air!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u96TPhxOBRE&ab_channel=DWNews[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67921986[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/09/americas/armed-men-interrupt-live-tv-ecuador-intl/index.html[/URL]

Understanding the violence: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67912242.amp[/URL].

[QUOTE=TheCane;2885059]Understanding the violence: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67912242.amp[/URL].[/QUOTE]Stay safe.

Prosecutor shot and killed: [URL]https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/17/ecuador-prosecutor-cesar-suarez-shot-killed[/URL].

[QUOTE=TheCane;2887084]Prosecutor shot and killed: [URL]https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/17/ecuador-prosecutor-cesar-suarez-shot-killed[/URL].[/QUOTE]Prosecutors have been killed for over 40 years in Ecuador this is not new, to those who have had any time living here the only new thing about this particular prosecutor is that he was investigating some drug lords with political connections.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2887366]Prosecutors have been killed for over 40 years in Ecuador this is not new, to those who have had any time living here the only new thing about this particular prosecutor is that he was investigating some drug lords with political connections.[/QUOTE]Nobody said it was anything new. It's a current news report on the ramped up violence going on in Ecuador today. It all is what it is. No denying the truth.

On January 11, 2024, the Government of Ecuador announced new entry restrictions in response to the ongoing state of internal armed conflict.

All foreigners entering Ecuador at crossing points with land or rivers borders with Colombia will need to present a criminal records check from their country of origin or residence. Both the original criminal record check and the Spanish translation must be apostilled and cover the past five years. Minors travelling with their family members will generally be exempt.

The Apostille Convention took effect in Canada on January 11, 2024. An apostille is a standard certificate allowing documents to be accepted in all countries where the convention is in effect.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2887495]On January 11, 2024, the Government of Ecuador announced new entry restrictions in response to the ongoing state of internal armed conflict.

All foreigners entering Ecuador at crossing points with land or rivers borders with Colombia will need to present a criminal records check from their country of origin or residence. Both the original criminal record check and the Spanish translation must be apostilled and cover the past five years. Minors travelling with their family members will generally be exempt.

The Apostille Convention took effect in Canada on January 11, 2024. An apostille is a standard certificate allowing documents to be accepted in all countries where the convention is in effect.[/QUOTE]And mongers have been complaining about having to get a visa to go to Brazil! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2887526]And mongers have been complaining about having to get a visa to go to Brazil! LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]To clarify no restrictions is coming to Ecuador unless you have some kind of criminal background federal or otherwise since the PN is finally doing what it needs to do which is to check if the people that come here are saints, or the next incarnation of Pablo Escobar if you have no background problems no one will pester you.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2888186]To clarify no restrictions is coming to Ecuador unless you have some kind of criminal background federal or otherwise since the PN is finally doing what it needs to do which is to check if the people that come here are saints, or the next incarnation of Pablo Escobar if you have no background problems no one will pester you.[/QUOTE]This is for LAND and RIVER not AIR. Ie covers the border to Colombia and Peru.

If the curfew over or was it extended again past April?

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2907968]If the curfew over or was it extended again past April?[/QUOTE]No more curfews.

Hi, I'm a local living in Quito, I used to in ISG back in 2007-2008. I could give advice on how to avoid dangerous zones and find the best girls.

I also run a telegram group, but I don't know if the admin will allow to post links here.

Just got my approval email for my investors visa. Get to get back in the next 60 days to pick it up and request my cedula. I am finally a gringodorian!

At doom. How was your BA trip? I am booked to Santiago and BA in Nov.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;2921873]Just got my approval email for my investors visa. Get to get back in the next 60 days to pick it up and request my cedula. I am finally a gringodorian!

At doom. How was your BA trip? I am booked to Santiago and BA in Nov.[/QUOTE]BA is a shit show why well? I have been spoiled by Ecuador and cheap places, so tinder, bumble, badoo every girl wants you to go to a boliche and even though Argentinans are broke they all expect you to spend money on them upwards of $100 I am not a club guy drinking alcahol and having a bad night is or ever was my idea of fun I have zero interest in "working" for a womans attention COVID it seems did a number on BA, so there is not a whole lot of strip clubs ceratinly not as much as 15 years ago, the spas or the sites are a shit show or rather I have lived in the wild west of Ecuador for so long that I am used to say sending a text on wassap and guetting about 100 naked pictures of women on my phone in BA they were shifty I assume because authorities enforce the law, so it's almost like the US where they play games and even if I did go I have zero desire to spend at minimun $60 for 30 minutes when I can go to a chongo and spend $14 for the same time so now Argentina will be a hard no ever.

This is tricky, because official all the brothels and sex clubs are closed.

But I am sure there is something.

Happening.

"Almost all the old sex places have been closed by.

The Women in the Government years ago. "

Buenos Aires 2024:

There is still Party life in the country:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtEc02QiD-c[/URL]

Gallo 1311, at Paraguay and Mansilla. 10+ Chicas. Prices: Cover 350 p, Chicas are asking 2700+p.

Hours: Martes a Sábados desde las 22 hs. 11 pm to Morning.

Tel: 113 145 0593,4 963 7195.

[URL]https://www.cocodrilobuenosaires.com/[/URL]

Cocodrilo Night Club (2023).

[URL]https://countryhelper.com/attraction-cocodrilo-22091[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2922021]BA is a shit show why well? I have been spoiled by Ecuador and cheap places, so tinder, bumble, badoo every girl wants you to go to a boliche and even though Argentinans are broke they all expect you to spend money on them upwards of $100 I am not a club guy drinking alcahol and having a bad night is or ever was my idea of fun I have zero interest in "working" for a womans attention COVID it seems did a number on BA, so there is not a whole lot of strip clubs ceratinly not as much as 15 years ago, the spas or the sites are a shit show or rather I have lived in the wild west of Ecuador for so long that I am used to say sending a text on wassap and guetting about 100 naked pictures of women on my phone in BA they were shifty I assume because authorities enforce the law, so it's almost like the US where they play games and even if I did go I have zero desire to spend at minimun $60 for 30 minutes when I can go to a chongo and spend $14 for the same time so now Argentina will be a hard no ever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2922145]This is tricky, because official all the brothels and sex clubs are closed.

But I am sure there is something.

Happening.

"Almost all the old sex places have been closed by.

The Women in the Government years ago. "

Buenos Aires 2024:

There is still Party life in the country:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtEc02QiD-c[/URL]

Gallo 1311, at Paraguay and Mansilla. 10+ Chicas. Prices: Cover 350 p, Chicas are asking 2700+p.

Hours: Martes a Sbados desde las 22 hs. 11 pm to Morning.

Tel: 113 145 0593,4 963 7195.

[URL]https://www.cocodrilobuenosaires.com/[/URL]

Cocodrilo Night Club (2023).

[URL]https://countryhelper.com/attraction-cocodrilo-22091[/URL][/QUOTE]I have no doubt that there is party life is just I believe a matter of preferance I want to go somewhere do my thing and be out, I do not want to get to know them debate politics, give a shit or feel sympathy about their shitty life, I do not want to pretend I want to save them I just want to stick my dick in and go, it seems that Argentina has had some rub off from the west and that to me who is used to having an itch be scratched at the nearest chongo, I no longuer roll like that I just want to dumb semen and go it's nothing personal I already have a wifey at home, plus all argentinans remember the "good times" so they want to charge "good time" prices women here when they are starving the do anything to get a plate of food not argentinan women again preferance I feel for them but from the bottom of my heart I don't give fuck, things are just easier in Ecuador, Peru and Colombia even though Colombia is being ruined by the "passport bros" women here understand the transactional nature of relationships and I like it that way that's just how I get down.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2922021]BA is a shit show why well? I have been spoiled by Ecuador and cheap places, so tinder, bumble, badoo every girl wants you to go to a boliche and even though Argentinans are broke they all expect you to spend money on them upwards of $100 I am not a club guy drinking alcahol and having a bad night is or ever was my idea of fun I have zero interest in "working" for a womans attention COVID it seems did a number on BA, so there is not a whole lot of strip clubs ceratinly not as much as 15 years ago, the spas or the sites are a shit show or rather I have lived in the wild west of Ecuador for so long that I am used to say sending a text on wassap and guetting about 100 naked pictures of women on my phone in BA they were shifty I assume because authorities enforce the law, so it's almost like the US where they play games and even if I did go I have zero desire to spend at minimun $60 for 30 minutes when I can go to a chongo and spend $14 for the same time so now Argentina will be a hard no ever.[/QUOTE]Which is very unfortunate because some Argentinian women are smoking hot. The ones that look half Italian, half Hispanic. Some of the hottest women in the world, imo. I was with one of them in Manchester one time. Great experience.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2922224]Which is very unfortunate because some Argentinian women are smoking hot. The ones that look half Italian, half Hispanic. Some of the hottest women in the world, imo. I was with one of them in Manchester one time. Great experience.[/QUOTE]Feminism ruins women say it with me one more goddamm time, so when an economy grows women elevate their "standards" because woman date up fuck up, most men do not care if they are with a broke woman as long as she tends to his needs, not so with women the theories on why that abounds, but the problems is that Argentina USED to be past tense rich, on top of that their cultural quirks they do not think they are Hispanic, truth be told they were no natives to interbreed with so they have a point, so irrespective of how much European blood they have in their DNA in modern times they still think or at least their women believe that they can find guys who can, provide them with some status even if that is not the case, in Ecuador for example I have and I am not ashamed to do so and will do so again as long as I can get away with it, I see a girl in a certain situation and tell her listen baby how about I give you this and you come over here and suck my dick, and they are Ohh no I can't do that, because I know they are broke I let it go sooner or later desperation will set in and they eventually call or text and they are ok, not so with argentinan women they could be literally having 1 bag of roman noodles they still think they are in the 90's and say "you have to take them to the boliche" and wine and dine them, to me that is a no not even a no but a "hell to the fuck no" starve, end of conversation.

No feminine woman is going to starve just so she can make a point, they will either settle or sell their bodies because they have needs but feminist women are slightly different and because I know that I can go to a place in Ecuador where I can have bare minimum sex for as little as $10 plus a domestic partner I am not stressing, they are not taking my money from me, let other simps fund their stupidity that is how we roll over here let the struggle pimping continue.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2924303]One of the reasons I started my YouTube channel is even though I am an expat who has been living in Ecuador for the past 13 years I have been married divorced had children legitimately and illegitimately mongered the whole time, has never been faithful, because no man with options ever is ...[/QUOTE]I love your YouTube channel, makes me laugh, makes me cry. I've never been to Ecuador. Not a word in Spanish. Any wisdom regarding a 2-weeks mongering trip to Ecuador vs. German FKK? I watched most of your videos, and although it may compare like apples and oranges, I'm curious if Mr. Doom has any direct insights. Hotel and car rentals have gone up 2 times in price in Europe lately. Would I need a car rental in Guayaquil? Or are there alternatives? I tried partyecuador dot com, but getting an error.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2925711]I love your YouTube channel, makes me laugh, makes me cry. I've never been to Ecuador. Not a word in Spanish. Any wisdom regarding a 2-weeks mongering trip to Ecuador vs. German FKK? I watched most of your videos, and although it may compare like apples and oranges, I'm curious if Mr. Doom has any direct insights. Hotel and car rentals have gone up 2 times in price in Europe lately. Would I need a car rental in Guayaquil? Or are there alternatives? I tried partyecuador dot com, but getting an error.[/QUOTE]There is a simple reason why prices do not increase here PEOPLE ARE BROKE irrespective of how much I big up Ecuador the fact of the matter is that people in most of the West are either too scared, too stupid, or too weak to come here to Ecuador western media has done a pretty amazing job in portraying it in the worst possible light, especially Guayaquil everyone thinks that Guayauqil is like mad max beyond Thunderdome last I heard, I think there was 1 foreigner that died, unlike Medellin where over 100+ foreigners die every year. Yet, people still praise Colombia for how beautiful or accommodating their women are or how "beautiful" the country is, and how it feels "safe" even though hundreds of foreigners including Latinos are dropping like flies.

All of that being said here is the truth bomb the lack of international tourism keeps prices low because the ones that are doing tourism are local or regional locals, so the concept of "gringo pricing" is not a thing in Ecuador there would have to be a large crowd of foreigners for that and that is simply not the case, as far as logistical yesterday I took a german on a happy tour here to my fair city of Guayaquil, he was amazed on how cheap taxis are, as long as you do not take taxis from the hotels it's rare for a cab ride to go past 10 and 10 is like traveling from Guayaquil to Duran, so rentals are out of the question plus since there is not a whole lot of cars in Ecuador parking is a problem as far as service providers go here is my take on that most FKKs tend to locals or Europeans that is their client base meaning they are meeting, mostly emasculated western men, ME personally I like my women be it the girls in my rotation or my service providers to be submissive, feminine and friendly, that is something you are not going to find in an FKK and no business model can survive without providing the customer what they want, in the case of Germany, it is like take it or leave it, in the case of Ecuador the customer says you do what I want or you starve, is this right? I have no idea but if it's wrong I do not want to be right it works well for me and the foreigners that I have taken care of are infinitely happier.

That is without discussing prices escorts are going to be more caring and take more care of themselves which is why you pay more, brothel girls run through 10-20 men a day but cost no more than 20.

As far as [URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL] is concerned they are switching to [URL]https://www.partygye.com/[/URL] but I have been too busy with my struggle pimping to announce it but they do have a Reddit board where there is either a telegram or a wasp that you can reach [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/worldunitedmonguers/[/URL].

Let the struggle continue.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2925711]I love your YouTube channel, makes me laugh, makes me cry. I've never been to Ecuador. Not a word in Spanish. Any wisdom regarding a 2-weeks mongering trip to Ecuador vs. German FKK? I watched most of your videos, and although it may compare like apples and oranges, I'm curious if Mr. Doom has any direct insights. Hotel and car rentals have gone up 2 times in price in Europe lately. Would I need a car rental in Guayaquil? Or are there alternatives? I tried partyecuador dot com, but getting an error.[/QUOTE]There is a simple reason why prices do not increase here PEOPLE ARE BROKE irrespective of how much I big up Ecuador the fact of the matter is that people in most of the West are either too scared, too stupid, or too weak to come here to Ecuador western media has done a pretty amazing job in portraying it in the worst possible light, especially Guayaquil everyone thinks that Guayauqil is like mad max beyond Thunderdome last I heard, I think there was 1 foreigner that died, unlike Medellin where over 100+ foreigners die every year. Yet, people still praise Colombia for how beautiful or accommodating their women are or how "beautiful" the country is, and how it feels "safe" even though hundreds of foreigners including Latinos are dropping like flies.

All of that being said here is the truth bomb the lack of international tourism keeps prices low because the ones that are doing tourism are local or regional locals, so the concept of "gringo pricing" is not a thing in Ecuador there would have to be a large crowd of foreigners for that and that is simply not the case, as far as logistical yesterday I took a german on a happy tour here to my fair city of Guayaquil, he was amazed on how cheap taxis are, as long as you do not take taxis from the hotels it's rare for a cab ride to go past 10 and 10 is like traveling from Guayaquil to Duran, so rentals are out of the question plus since there is not a whole lot of cars in Ecuador parking is a problem as far as service providers go here is my take on that most FKKs tend to locals or Europeans that is their client base meaning they are meeting, mostly emasculated western men, ME personally I like my women be it the girls in my rotation or my service providers to be submissive, feminine and friendly, that is something you are not going to find in an FKK and no business model can survive without providing the customer what they want, in the case of Germany, it is like take it or leave it, in the case of Ecuador the customer says you do what I want or you starve, is this right? I have no idea but if it's wrong I do not want to be right it works well for me and the foreigners that I have taken care of are infinitely happier.

That is without discussing prices escorts are going to be more caring and take more care of themselves which is why you pay more, brothel girls run through 10-20 men a day but cost no more than 20.

As far as [URL]https://partyecuador.com/[/URL] is concerned they are switching to [URL]https://www.partygye.com/[/URL] but I have been too busy with my struggle pimping to announce it but they do have a Reddit board where there is either a telegram or a wasp that you can reach [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/worldunitedmonguers/[/URL].

Let the struggle continue.

Very helpful info, much appreciated!

Since SESTA / FOSTA crushed the scene in the US, I switched to Germany because a typical German sauna club provides food, prostitutes, and some scenery like pole dancing Friday / Saturday evenings. I can do my work daytime and hang out in a company of prostitutes in the evening. Zero interest in tourist activity, sightseeing or beaches. Perhaps a short walk, weather permitting, just for an exercise. The main goal is to eat, fuck, sleep, and repeat. I am flexible. Brothel visits are fine, hotel escorts are splendid. Would this sort of accommodation be possible in Ecuador, presumably under some scholarly guidance from Mr. Doom?

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2926017]Very helpful info, much appreciated!

Since SESTA / FOSTA crushed the scene in the US, I switched to Germany because a typical German sauna club provides food, prostitutes, and some scenery like pole dancing Friday / Saturday evenings. I can do my work daytime and hang out in a company of prostitutes in the evening. Zero interest in tourist activity, sightseeing or beaches. Perhaps a short walk, weather permitting, just for an exercise. The main goal is to eat, fuck, sleep, and repeat. I am flexible. Brothel visits are fine, hotel escorts are splendid. Would this sort of accommodation be possible in Ecuador, presumably under some scholarly guidance from Mr. Doom?[/QUOTE]Do not concern yourself my unenlightened brother let me know when you arrive and I shall guide you to the promised land all is well in the land of Guayakill I have the spot for such accommodations, do not concern yourself about the violence the only violence you need to concern yourself if with penetrating as many holes as humanly possible that is just how we roll over here.

So much to say and so little time to do it, so let Doom the pimp player extraordinaire enlighten all you literal motherfuckers, so I am now an online consultant apart from doing my happy tours to people that come to Ecuador, I have been getting a lot of emails and clarification about what exactly is going on in Ecuador mainly the power outages. To be clear while some people blame the current administration for the chaos this stupidity has been long in the making, the short of it's Ecuador bet on Hydro and it was a pretty good bet except that no one took into account the fact that there will be a time where it does not rain so much, as it's going on now.

Will things improve? Unlikely in the short term long term who knows but most hotels and motels and brothels have diesel or gasoline power generators so fucking is certainly not a problem, stores have generators even if it contributes to noise and smog people have to work and eat so it's what it is till it rains.

The struggle pimping continues.

This is a Bloomberg report.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-ecuador-power-sinkhole/[/URL]

Basically in the short term, we will have some good electricity if it does not rain in October the cycle begins all over, and this country is going to have to make so hard decisions about the electrical infrastructure. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2974589]This is a Bloomberg report.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-ecuador-power-sinkhole/[/URL]

Basically in the short term, we will have some good electricity if it does not rain in October the cycle begins all over, and this country is going to have to make so hard decisions about the electrical infrastructure. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]Can I get an update? I'm visiting Olon in January and want to make sure I can be hooked up during that time I'd like to know the best time ay of doing that.

[QUOTE=Trewdaat;3038214]Can I get an update? I'm visiting Olon in January and want to make sure I can be hooked up during that time I'd like to know the best time ay of doing that.[/QUOTE]OK what does that even mean, if you want to know if it's safe the answer is NO we just had an elections communists won the president is currently looking stupid and powerless, Olon if for expats of beach bums if that is the case then go to the beach if it's to monger there is a couple of poor broke ass women that will think a foreigner is a good bet so she will not starve so plenty of that. What else is there to say.