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There is lots of good info in the Old Forum about WG's and amateurs in Tallinn.

Check there first!!

Name: E-Luks
Address: Humala 4
Phone: 051-989862
Price: 400 EEK / hour

Name: Rock and roll girls
Address: Tuuleveski 34
Phone: 055-991417
Price: 400 EEK / hour

Name: White House
Address: Paljassaare 43
Phone: 0-6395357
Price: 400 EEK / hour

Address: Sikupilli 17
Price: 400 EEK / hour

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** BROTHELS the centre on Tallinn **

Address: Maakri 30 (apartment number 3)
Open: klo 10-22
Phone: 053-966442, 055-950306
Price: 250 EEK / half hour, 400 EEK / hour
(near Hotel Radisson SAS. Brothel works in old wooden apartment building)

Address: Lembitu 14 (apartment number 33)
Open: klo 10-22
Phone: 0-6480277
Price: 480 EEK / hour
(near Hotel Olympia. Brothel works in apartment building, just ring door bell apartment number 33)

Address: Narva mnt 16 (apartment number 2)
Open: klo 9-22
Phone: 0-6485981
Price: 300 EEK / hour
(Brothel works in apartment building, you have to call phone number to get inside)

Address: Narva mnt 2
Phone: 051-83987, 0-6601163
Price: 350 EEK / half hour, 500 EEK / hour
(Brothel works in apartment building, you have to call phone number to get inside)

Address: Narva mnt 26
Phone: 051-968741
Price: 400 EEK / hour

Address: Väike-Ameerika 7
Phone: 055-19586
Price: 400 EEK / hour (+200 EEK extra anal sex)
(Brothel works in apartment building, you have to call phone number to get inside)


You can also order girl in to your hotel room. It cost's 300 EEK / hour! (2 hours cost 500 EEK, 5 hours cost 1000 EEK)

Here you can find advertisements:
http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/foorumi/viewtopic.php?topic=15&forum=17&16

Brothels advertisements:

http://weekend.ee/entertainment/?tyyp=45

Brothels advertise in "Soov" paper! You can buy it from kiosk!!!!!!!

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Best TAXI COMPANY in Tallinn is Silver takso
Phone: 6482 300, 6482 383
http://www.silvertakso.ee/

THEY DON'T CHEAT!

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Estonia bank home page
http://www.ee/epbe/index.html.en

MONEY EXCHANGE

Haggai
http://www.haggai.ee
1 EUR = 15,635 EEK

Tavid
http://www.tavid.ee
1 EUR = 15,635 EEK

I will be in Tallinn for the month of July. Any ideas concerning apartment rentals? Thanks.

if you want buy low price videos or DVD:s

Amor Erootikakauplus
Address: Väike-Ameerika 11, Tallinn
Phone +3726481575

Eros Video
Address: Kopli 4, Tallinn
Phone +3726440224

Erotica Center
Address: Vana-Viru 14, Tallinn
Phone +3726314188

Hot-Lips
Address: Kunderi 40, Tallinn
Phone +3726009403

Minu Rocco
Address: Kaupmehe 2, Tallinn
Phone +3726481575

Mustamäe Erootikakeskus
Address: Sõpruse pst 222, Tallinn
Phone +3726544262

Sex Box
Address: Kaupmehe 2, Tallinn
Phone +3726604098

Sexyland Shop
Address: Gonsiori 3, Tallinn
Phone +3726601283

Strip club's in Tallinn:

Börsi Baar
Address: Lai 7

Club
Address: Sakala 12

Erotica Center
Address: Vana-Viru 14

From Dusk Till Dawn
Address: Endla 15

Lasso Baar
Address: Mere pst. 6 A

Le Galaxy
Address: Müürivahe 23 A

Lily
Address: Tatari 1 A

Mirtake
Address: Väike-Karja 1

Mr Robinson
Address: Aia 10

Soho
Address: Kaubamaja 3

Valge Lõvi
Address: Lai 8

X-Club
Address: Harju 6

low price hotel rooms:

TKTK Üliõpilas hotel
Address: Nõmme tee 47
Phone: +3726552679
Price: 300 EEK (2 person room)
(very good place to order girl in your hotel room)

Dorell hotel
Áddress: Karu 39
Phone: +3726261200, +3726623580
Price: 500 EEK
http://www.hot.ee/dorell/

In Helsinki there is no visible street action. It is against local codes and is enforced. If you go out to Vantaa (Tikkurila) apparently there is some near the railway station and by the Antilla store. I figure that it is too bloody cold, I've never seen anything!

In Tallinn there is not supposed to be any but I met a girl outside Hessburger by the Viru, she was hanging around. In the old town there is a little bit going on, mainly in the summer. In the evening look on the roads going though from the port area to Narva Mnt, drivers come through here and there are often a few girls wandering around, they are not obvious, I only realised what was going on when I was walking around and kept seeing the same girls on the beat. There are often girls looking a little lonely during the day, near MacDonald's. I have been approached outside Hollywood in the Old Town.

You can usually find someone to join you if you are taking a coffee or beer in the old square in the summer.

Most action is in the clubs and bars.

You can rent apartments through http://erel.ee they have places in or near the old town from 750Eek per night with discounts for longer periods. The places I have stayed in range from basic to very nice c/w sauna etc.

Old house bed and breakfast has some.

Check www.inyourpocket.com for more leads.

If you are staying for a month it may be worth asking local contacts for guidance, are you going for work, in which case there will be sombeody who knows a place... or pleasure in which case you may well have to pay the kind of money I noted above.

Prices are lower outside the old town or city centre but harder to find. Most tourists value the central location very highly. I was looking at quite nice places in decent areas for about $150 per month, although on a six month contract.

Dusty, that site lists apartments at a monthly rate of about $700, which is the cheapest on site. Is it possible to find a cheaper monthly rate in Tallinn for a flat in the center?

Are there any dominas in tallin?Please help me with this
question.

Erel have cheaper places not listed. They are as they told me 'not so beautiful'. The one I stayed in that was 'not so beautiful' was on Muurivahe (sp?) and was perfectly ok, clean and large but basic. It was also within 20 paces from Galaxy, itself a plus factor in my opinion. The problem is that tourists pay these prices because they are MUCH cheaper than a hotel and the length of stay that you propose is too short for a normal apartment rental... That is why if you have local contacts they may be of better help.

I can not help you here, I now live with my 'local contact' ;-)

Dusty, is Tallin like Riga, I have never been to Tallin but I have spent some time in Riga as well as Vilnius, are the cites comparable in any way. From what I understand, Tallin is a more beautiful city with much more to do, and the girls are incredable as well.

I have not yet been to Riga. Friends who have been tell me the place is also lovely, similar old toen, perhaps led highly restored. Apparently less P4P but still enough.

Swede

There are a couple of domina's here in Tallinn that I am aware of. I haven't though tried either one so you are on your own as far as that goes. One can be contacted by email at <octobergirl@hot.ee>, she offers SM and BDSM.

The other one is located at Liivimäe 2 - 40 and is called Lady Theresa SM Service, tel 6 459 567, 6 620 300 or GSM 055 983 688.

How about posting a report for the rest of us when you try them!

Here is another one of previous reports on the WG's of Tallinn. This was posted to the Old Forum just be it was archived. Thought that it would serve others with a copy here so that you don't have to go to the Old Forum.

Thought that I'd give my review of a couple of establishments. First one is located at Makri 30-3, tel. GSM 053 966 442 and 055 950 306. To find Makri street go outside the main entrance to the SAS Radisson Hotel which is in the center of the city. As soon as you step outside the front door turn right follow the building, go past the casino and the bar at the end of the building. Directly ahead of you will be a short,narrow street. This is Makri street. The 3rd or 4th building on the right is number 30. It is a normal old wooden apartment building. Go around to the back of the building, it's only 3 stories, go thru the door and up the stairs to the second floor. Knock on the door of apartment 3. Now you're in, to just a normal everyday Estonian apartment. Ask for a girl by the name of Viktoria. She's about 170 cms and 53 kgs, nice firm jugs and clean shaven. She's about a 6 or 7. She likes french kissing and is very oral and likes to ride on top. Don't know, but don't think that she'll do anal. She uses a condom for everything. She's 20 and a student at a local university. She doesn't watch the clock much, OK a little bit but she is quite enthusiastic and for 300 EEK per hour you can get your nut as many times as you want. She speaks good English and enjoys her time with you. There are generally 3 girls on per shift. Viktoria works every night after 17.00 until closing which is at 23.00. She also works every Saturday and Sunday. She is the only one that I've been with. Have met the other girls and they seem friendly enough.

There is another place located at Narva Mnt. 16-2. Tel- 6485 981 Used to be several nice providers here. They have since moved on. Went in to check out the girls last week. One about 40 years old and a sold 3, and the other one a solid 4 and 30 years old and about 75 kgs. Said no thanks and left.

Most of the local brothels, used by the locals are found in ordinary apartments. Nothing plush in any of them, but they are clean, secure and safe. You'll never see any security in them, although the madams tell me that they can be summoned within a few minutes. They are all discrete as you rarely will see any other clients there as well. They will direct traffic amongst the clients so that you won't see or be seen by another client. You will be able to shower both before and after the main event if you want. The girls are generally Russian and range from age 18 - 45, and from a solid 3 (see above), to 8's with a rare 9. Most of the 8, 9 and 10's hang out in the nightclubs and freelance out of them. There are always young girls 18 - 20 that are only working a day or two a week or for a few months to get some bills paid off. They aren't in the business for long, so you can have more of a GFE with them. Many of the best "girls" are 25+ and are not the stunning lookers, but will give you the time of your life. It is a business for them and they are catching on that satisfied customers are repeat customers. If you want a good satisfying time the local brothels are the place to go.

There are other brothels in town, Morgan Club, Lily, Infant, Tuukri and Hotel Max among others. Most of them cater more to the tourist trade, which is mostly Finnish. They'll charge 1000 EEK per hour, and the girls will generally be a little better looking than the local brothels. However, the girls will most assuredly be pressuring you to buy them a drink and will be watching the clock. Also many of them only give you one pop even though you've paid for an hour. Never have met an enthusiastic provider in any of them and have been to them all. Most of the girls there are very mechanical and are almost watching their watches over your shoulders - BORING!! One way though to save money, is to go to these brothels on your own. That means without a taxi taking you there. Lily is close to the Palace Hotel, just on the edge of Old Town for instance. If you get there by yourself, you can always go with a girl for 600 EEK per hour. I read where another poster said that the taxi driver would graciously wait for you for the hour and then take you back to where you were. Gracious, my ass! The brothel gives them a 400 EEK finders fee for bringing you in. If they can take you to several places they can make far more with the kickback fees than they can in fares. Tell the barkeep that you came on your own and ask what the rate is. All of the barmen and most of the girls are Russian. The barmen and some of the girls will speak passable English.

One thing that I should have mentioned in the previous report was that MOST of the local brothels, found in ordinary apartment buildings (see previous report) have a menu that you can choose from. You can have a girl for 20 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 60 minutes etc. Also during those time frames you can have a massage (handjob), or massage + minuet (BJ), or massage + minuet + sex. Of course the massage (handjob) is cheaper than the massage + minuet which is cheaper than the massage + minuet + sex. Your choice as to what you want. The girls split the money 50 / 50 with the house.

I generally pay for a massage + minuet for an hour which costs generally around 300 EEK, the massage + minuet + sex for one hour is generally around 400 EEK. Then when I get into the room I give the girl 100 EEK which makes the hour cost me 400 EEK, but the girl is much happier because she doesn't have the split the last 100 EEK with the house. It puts a big smile on their face and gets me a nicer time. Most of the girls know me well, as I'm a regular so I get a nice time anyway.

If you happen to choose a girl that isn't with the program, cold standoffish etc. and you discover this within the first 10 minutes, do this. Just stop and tell the girl to go get the madam. The madam will either give you back your money or give you your second choice girl. You must do this in the first 5 or 10 minutes though!

Many of the girls can give a good classic massage, so if you want you can enjoy that along with you other activites. The massages here are much better than the massage parlors in the US.

In my opinion you are NOT really expected to leave any tip at one of the local houses over and above the menu price. But of course it is nice if you have a good time and will get you a warmer welcome when you return! DO NOT though, tip more than 100 EEK, as all you do is teach the girls (particularly the young ones that are just starting out or are working part time) that their ass is golden. The end result, IMHO is that you ruin the girls and their work ethic. They become more and more like American woman and expect something for nothing!

I am NOT advocating keeping the working girls down, but be realistic with the tips. The average salary in Estonia is about $330.00 USD per month, about 5600 EEK (17.00 EEK = $1.00 USD). The average Estonian secretary makes about 250 EEK per working day. Yeah, maybe a girl working on her back is worth more than a secretary -- that ought to touch off a good debate! But lets not price ourselves (us foreigners) out of the market. I assure you that the local population doesn't tip at all!! Think about it.

About the local girls. Many of girls in Tallinn are available for nice times, although they may not have sex with you immediately. In the summer, the Old Town is full of Finnish tourists -- so I'm not convinced that Old Town is a great place for the uninitiated to pick up local girls. However, the park next to Viru Hotel is generally full of locals. Have a seat on one of the many benches, make eye contact, smile and if returned start a conversation. You could also go to one of the many nightclubs and try your luck there. Another good place to meet local girls are in the Internet cafes. With summer coming on, many of them won't have access to a computer as school will be out. They'll go to the internet cafes, where you can strike a conversation with them. Turn on the charm and see what happens!

The schools teach English here and the students are required to take it. Most of the young people want to practice their English and the young girls like to try and impress foreigners with their command of the English language. Don't major that you are an American, it takes some smooth flattering talk after all to bed any woman. Just be normal, kind, nice pay attention to them, ask them about what they like. Take them to dinner etc, etc, etc. and you will probably score. Be a gentleman!!

Housing is very tight in Estonia. As a consequence most young people live with their parents until they get married. You must have a place to take the girl back to, as obviously she isn't going to take you home to the family and screw. You won't have any problems with the hotels taking someone to your room. There are NO burly security men guarding the elevators like there are in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

It would be helpful if you take a local girl flowers if you meet her later -- that is a big custom here and I like it! Also small inexpensive gifts go a long ways towards getting her to say yes to your advances. Enjoy the country and the girls even if you don't get laid immediately -- ENJOY LIFE GUYS!!!

low price hostel:

Mahtra Hostel

Address: Mahtra 44
Phone: + 3726218828, + 3726345433
Price: single room 240 EEK, double room 300 EEK

http://www.mahtra.ee/

I am going to Tallinn this summer, is there any good places/suggestions on meeting local non-pro girls for some good times?

Just got back from Tallinn, again.
Just go to Cafe Amigo in the Hotel Viru. A wide range of women, young to old, good looking and not so. Chat to what you like and have a good time. This fat 40 year old just scored with a really attractive girl. Thought she might be on the game, she was not, or at least not for me...

Treat them like ordinary women be nice and fun WILL follow. I promise.

I bumped into a couple of groups of English guys who just could not beleive what they were seeing, they were having a great time shagging FIniish and Estonian birds.

@Dusty

What happened to the local girlfriend you were living with last month?

I assume if you were checking if the girls in the bar were on the game you are back in the hunt.

Peter-

When I am in Tallinn I stay with her, I'm not there all the time.

I had a night off!

She was working the other night and she does not like me to stay with her when she has work the next day. She works long hours and does not like to be tired!

I just decided to stay on a bit longer and hook up with a friend for a beer. I am glad I did.

OTOH I felt a bit guilty so maybe I'll be a good boy in future...

Is Talinn easy to get to from Helsinki. They lookl close on the map and I'm spending some time in Helsinki? Also are there any SW in Tallin?

So easy. there's a ferry that'll take you there. If I remember correctly, it runs at least a couple times a day, fast, cheap and nice.

There are loads of ferries. In the summer the fastest takes just an hour; look for Linda Line. Cost can be as little as 30Euro round trip, the one hour ferry may be a little more expensive.

For a cheap overnighter, book a hotel package. You will be able to book a decent hotel in the centre, with ferry, transport and breakfast for about 80-115 Euros

I gave some information on SW in a previous post. I would not bother with them unless you have a fetish for them! Go to a club like Cafe Amigo, Bonny and Clyde, Terrarium or Hollywood. Be nice and score a freebie!

Tallinn city best night clubs:

Decolte
Address: Ahrti 10

Hollywood
Address: Vana-Posti 8

Good brothel (new address)

Name: Club
Address: Lembitu 8 (near Olympia-hotel)
Phone: 051-914964, 0-6411160
Price: 600 EEK / hour

Web page: http://hot.ee/club12/

I will be staying in Tallinn mid week during July with my girlfriend. She is keen for us to get together up with another girl (her first time..). Can anyone recommend the best potential clubs for this - B&C/Amigo!? Also how open are the 'strip clubs' to couples going in together? Again, any recomendations...

Thanks, and of course I'll feedback how we get on!

hijcw

You didn't mention how old you or your girlfriend is, which is somewhat important so that you will "fit in" to the club that you go to. Bonnie and Clyde is for an older crowd 35+, and Amigo is filled with mostly older drunken Finns, again 35+, as they get in free when they are staying at Viru Hotel. Amigo is located in the basement of Viru Hotel.

If you are younger, 20 - 30 and your girlfriend is quite attractive you could try Venus Club (Vana Viru 14, on the outskirts of Old Town), Hollywood Club (Vana Posti 8 , in the center of Old Town co-located with Cinema Sõprus), Decolte (Ahtri 10) or Terrarium Club (near the harbor).

Most Estonians women are not really very keen on making it with another woman, but they may be quite intrigued with the thought of a threesome, don't know for sure! Hope springs eternal though!

All of the strip clubs welcome couples and at Galaxy they are as liable to dance on her lap as they are on your lap.

Freeler,

I was in Tallin about six nights in the second week of July. I spent two nights there last summer. I strongly agree with your impression of this town. I couldn't wait to leave last year - and this year I deliberately booked six nights before arriving to give it a fair chance. I was going to post something similar to what you said, but I've never seen anybody post impressions like ours - so I thought I had a problem and just wasn't getting this town. Glad to know I'm not alone.
I came from two and a half weeks in St. Petersburg to Tallin - and IMHO - it was a night and day experience. As a package, I think the women of Tallin rank near the bottom for Eastern European women (I've travelled to most of E. Europe in the last two years). Sure, the Nordic ice princesses can be super hot, but what about warmth, sweetness, etc. - words that a lot of guys use to describe the attraction of E. European women. I had pro and non-pro experiences in Russia, and the Russian women were great! I can't wait to go back. I haven't travelled to the other Nordic countries, but if this is the typical Nordic atmosphere, I am not in a hurry to visit these countries. And I have no interest in returning to Tallin.

Guys,
don't tell me that this is so, I was and still
am intending to visit Tallin in a couple of
weeks time, surely it is not all doom and
gloom, there must be good time to be
had somewhere here?

Guys. I must respectfully disagree with you on the quality of the women in Tallin and the good times to be had. In short, we all sometimes perceive the same things quite differently. I had a WONDERFUL time!!! The women are knock outs. Nuff said. Getting laid is easy for many who travel there. Its even easier for those willing to spend $15-20 (1 hr f&s), the cheapest in Europe, bar none. I agree that the people are cold, but don't take this personal bcuz its cultural. I don't think I'd smile either if I were invaded by the Russians for decades and worked for less than $8 per day. Remember, that their reality is hell compared to ours. They are very friendly if you engage them and usually very interested in westerners. I have traveled to virtually every country in Europe but tip my hat to the beauties in the Baltics, naively prancing around in their see through blouses, and mini mini skirts. They exhibit all forms of natural beauty from their eyes, to long legs, pretty faces, petite bodies to just sheer innocence. In addition, the prices are dirt cheap also. I admit that there are downsides also. But all I can say is that I can't wait to go back. I'm getting a rush just thinking about it. I do however respect your opinions and perhaps its not for everyone.

So I get the message about the not so
happy people of Tallin, but is it possible
to get laid, paid or unpaid? That and
some places to go for a beer would be
useful information, I mean it if it doesn't
work out I can always leave!!

Patrick,

My intention was not to bum anybody out on Tallin. I'm sure you can get laid for pay in the brothels and maybe out of Amigo and B&C (even free if you want to work). I think guys like Freeler and me are just tuned into a more friendly atmosphere of a place. I relate to his comments of " I got tired of them real fast" and " the total absence of joy got to me in six hours and even wiped the smile off of my face". So I admit I have an attitude on the place that I just had a hard time shaking. The culture was not for me. I had a printout of the brothels that were posted back in May from this site, but I just didn't seem to give a damn in a short while.
I admit that sweetness and warmth in a woman is a major turn on for me - so I've found a lot of satisfaction in the Slavic world. (Czech girls from outside of Prague - even if they've lived in Prague for a few years but grew up in the small cities can be simply amazing.)
The situation that I am happy to have as my final memory of Tallin happened at B&C the night before I left. I approached a 6-7 girl sitting with her girlfriend. I smiled and asked her name (nothing fancy of course). She pulled her head back and looked at me as if I had just asked her if she had ever fucked her father. Then in a most unfriendly manner said "Why!" I just turned and walked. Fuck this town I thought to myself. I couldn't wait to get on the bus the next day. (I'm not a fat bastard or anything like that. I'm tall, reasonably handsome, full head of hair, work out three times a week, don't dress like a dork, have good grooming habits, educated, etc. - I just say this to be clear that I have success with a fair number of women.)
So, Patrick, good luck! I admit I had a shitty attitude that clouded over my experiences. But I know there have been plenty of posts from the past from guys that loved the town and had good success and fun. Take care!

Everybody ..

I find interesting this difference in opinions. I can understand the reasons of those who complain about the sadness of this place, but as far as I'm concerned, in 1986 Hungary was not the happiest place on earth, but I really had a lot fun over there (also because at that time, in Eastern Europe paid sex was not the rule ... girls were much more innocent and easy to be made for just a small gift .. tears of nostalgy ..).

Well, back to Tallin, I'm kindly asking to those who are Estonia enthusiast to give us --who never went there-- reports and details on how they could make a successful contact with these beautiful and apparently frozen girls.
I think that would be useful to all of us.

Thanks for your contributions!

I was in Tallinn 2 years ago and found the people there (including the women) to be open and friendly. The only suggestion I have is before you go up to a woman you must have her permission. Guys think it is up to us whom approaches whom but in reality it is up to the woman. If a guy doesn't get the "look" and he approaches a woman, he'd better look like Brad Pitt!

Dudes, it appears that we have generated quite a bit of discussion regarding our differing views of Tallin. Jak I totally respect the way you have justified your view of Tallin and the same for Freeler.

I usually provoke conversation, with a friendly smile, and politely ask if they speak English, then ask if they know where's the nearest ATM or, newsstand, etc. Admittedly this is simple and some may say even superficial, but think about it. If a girl won't even answer a simple question like that what are the chances that she'll be receptive to a stronger come on. In other words, its just for conversation.

Anyway, in Tallin I asked a knock waitress for directions, while dining. I had a map, tour guide and wanted to go somewhere lively. I asked her did she know of this certain place (can't recall it at the moment). She sighed, then hesitated for a moment and then replied, "tell you what, I'll be off around 6 and I'll take you there if you like". I was shocked beyond belief. I then said what time shall I return. She said "give me to about 6:45 to fix up, bcuz I want to look nice for you." She was not some professional or anything like that but the friendly girl next-door type (an 8.5-9). She took me all over the place. We hung out for days. Although we made out we didn't have sex. I really didn't want to take advantage of her (honestly). She was marriage material for many, maybe even me, but I'm not at that stage.

After I left her, I went to a brothel and got laid by a petite, blond 19 year old for about $15 bucks. We cuddled, chatted, listen to some cds, and then went at it again. I told her I would return the next day.

Girl 3. During the same period, I had been to a certain Internet cafe. By my second visit, the girl who worked there was smiling at me when I walked in. I was dressed really sharp to go out and wearing a truly woman-getter cologne. She then said, hi, you left your pen when you were here before. I was taken, bcuz she barely looked at me b4. She then began making conversation like where was I from., blah, blah, blah. She began pouring me free drinks and we talked for hours. We decided to go to the movies the next day, despite the fact that she had a boyfriend. She was about an 8.5 -9. Tall blond, thin, beautiful eyes and an innocent smile. Anyway, I invited her back to my HOSTEL (8-12 bucks/room). I rented her a separate room. We had sex in the communal shower on the hall floor when everyone was asleep, then against the walls of the dark hall ways headed back to our rooms and then several more times during the night. I had her meet me at my hostel for the next couple of days.

Girl 4. I was walking around after leaving Mr. Robinson's (completely drunk) at about 3 am. Bumped into a Russian girl sexy as hell!!!! and seemed drunk also. I tried to talk but she spoke little English a just giggled and kept speaking in Russian. I rubbed her cheeks and started to tongue her. We began making out. We'd walk a bit and make out some more until we stepped into an alley. I unbuttoned her blouse and sucked her breasts. We exchanged orals but no penetration (no condoms). I then walked her home. We exchanged numbers but I never saw her again.

The next day I went back to the brothel, had beers and good sex. Then I had to catch a bus to Riga to eventually get back to the real world. I left almost in tears bcuz I wanted to have some more fun and was expected get to together for a movie with the waitress and of course buff girl #2 .

Thanks for all the information guys, I
am not so sure if it is a good idea or
not to go...but I had decided to, and
still will. So if I have anything to report
of any interest on my return, then I will.
Thanks again.

Everybody,

I've got the opinion that Tallin seems like a place you have to make feeling contact with, and probaly it is just a little more difficult than other places (for many reasons in Thailand it would be much easier).

In Mexico they say "agarra la onda", meaning that wherever you are you should try to sincronize yourself with the local general mood, as you cannot expect vice versa.

Probably just one day or two are not enough, and studying the situation a little more than usually before starting action could be a good strategy in this case (understanding is often very helpful).

I'm going to Helsinki, and if I'll take a trip to Tallin I'll tell you my experience.

Thanks you all kids.

Still love Tallinn...

My new favourite hotel is the 'Reval Express'. It is situated by the port so that you can there within 5 minutes from either the Lindaline Terminal or the main terminals.
Cost is just $60 per night. Unlike all other hotels that I have used there, you rent the whole room. You can specify double or single beds.

The place is modern and clean, if a little characterless.

It is very girl friendly as long as you are discreet. The other week, I was sitting with a friend outside, enjoying a beer, watching a procession of young lovlies, going in and out, singly and in pairs and all working...

After about 23:00 if you take a girl back, you will probably have to register her, there is no charge for this, she can stay for breakfast, if you want. Just make sure that she is carrying her passport! I lke this as it tends to ensure honesty.

BTW, I made some calls, the local places charge between 500 and 750 Eek for an hour to deliver a girl to your room at the hotel. Not tried any yet, not needed to.

Hi Chaps I am new to the forum but have read the Mixed reports for a while.I am planning a sex trip to Tallin in October and need to know up to date info on where to find the pretty friendly local girl action..Are there any Irish pubs? Or is it all nightclubs/Massage etc...Will use them if necassary..Also might take the train to Riga to check it out!!!
Keep up the good work gentlemen..BP

yes there is an Irish Pub, Molly Malones, just off the Raikoja (sp) Square in the old town. OK place. some good looking women go there. It's mainly a tourist and expat hangout. The women are looking (often) to hook up with guys from overseas, or they already work with those guys.

If you want to hook up with a civilian, then she will need to think that you will be there for a while and/or coming back soon. It's a good reason to rent an apartment. It also saves the walk of shame for the girl.

Thanks dusty_bin is it possible to book these apartments on arrival ?(I am only staying in the Baltics for 4 nights.)
Is there a tourist info office/contact No. who can SPK english,in the city that will sort it for me..?
I have been to Vilnius, a couple of times I hope Tallin is livelier.I have read the mixed reports over the months and want to try it for myself..
I am researching this time with a view to returning at Xmas...for longer cheaper appartment based holiday..Is it lively here at Xmas? or does the city close down..
Also wanna see Riga if its easy to get a train from tallin...!

BP

Go to www.inyourpocket.com and look in the where to stay section. You will need to book apartments in advance. I have booked with just a day notice, but if they have to put on heating etc then you want to give them some time.

Never stayed over Christmas, but if I were a working girl, I'd wanna be with family...

Many folk probably speak English as well as you do.

Train or bus, no problem, bus may be easier.

Thanks for the usefull info.I will post a report on my return, on my findings while I am out there.

I have been last weekend in Tallinn, the old town is very nice. I stayed at the Rottermannii Viikinig Hotel, about 57€ and it seemed to be the cheapest to book via internet. The first dissapointment was, that the taxi driver took 175 eek from the airport there (price according internet homepage 75 eek). Avoid Tulika Taksi ! When I was looking with this taxi company for a "house of girls" the driver brought me to a private place which was not clean, the girls seemed to be drug addictives. When I refused he told me that better brothels are "a little bit outside" . he went to Piriti and the Club102 on the other side of the town, which was not bad, the girls cost 1000 eek /one hour (but 200 is for the taxi). At least the taxi cost me 660 eek !!!!! The service there was quite OK and the girls average.
In the last night I had the best idea: I went by myself on foot to diana´s escort service (Lembitu 14-33) near Reval Olümpia Hotel, there is only the number, no name on the ring ! I heared a "da,da" (russian: yes) after ringing the bell and the door unlocked, I went up to the 4th floor when a blond girl opened very friendly and gave me a joice of 4 girls, I took Diana , she offered me 30 min of finest oil massage, relaxing music and then I had turn on my backside and she started bj and a very fine fuck, all to gether a real full hour of finest service for only 500 eek (cheaper than the taxi before !!!)
Diana has a second salon: Liivamae 2-40 (phone 645 9567, the she-boss is Karina)
so be careful with taxis !

I am off to Tallinn this weekend. We have a two bedroom apartment with Jacuzzi and sauna for 70Euro per night. Can't beat it! Collected from the ferry terminal and taken back when we leave. So its $70 for the weekend each!

For taxis, avoid Tulikka Taxi like the plague. Usually nice cars but hugely expensive. 660Eek, I assume that he waited whilst you chucked your muck, is really pushing it. He will have had about 400EEK as commission already! Taxi to Pirita should cost less than 100.

If you really want to save money, then get a local Phone card for your mobile. they cost just 150EEK and it means that you can call taxis to you. This is always cheaper, even with Tulikka. I would suggest that you use Viking taxis. The dispatcher can speak English and the guys have not yet ripped me off...
They charge just 4.5Eek per kilometer, some charge 11 or even more.

Hi guys!

There is lots of good information about Tallinn and I would like to say it's one of the best places to spend nice time in this part of the world.

I am Finnish guy who has spend quite much time here in Tallinn in the past and now I am living here permanently. I have been organizing tours for small Finnish groups and helped them to find what there are looking for.

If someone is interested in having a guide or being part of our group I would be more than happy to help. The thing I can offer is knowledge of local places, habbits, languages and ways to avoid rip offs.

If you are interested or just want to know more about life here, you can always send email to [email]maximus@sihteeriopisto.net[/email].

first time in this forum... i have travelled a bit around the world, not for sex but with sex. I found this site interesting because free.

So, I have just spent 3 months in Tallinn.

general infos... It is a nice town well preserved from the 12- 15 century. Not much tourist activities.. The old town is the main attraction for tourists, the rest remains quite soviet union style unless the pirita beach at the summer time.

Even though it is quite poor (average salary about 300 box a month), the finnish tourists ( 80 km) from there make a huge speculation especially in hotel rooms. They come for prostitution and shopping.

There is 2 very different population in Tallinn.. russians and estonians. 50=50. the russians are very easy to meet, less educated ( cannot go to university in there language), the estonians go out less frequently. That s not the same game to meet up these people. Russians, you can go quite straitht in a sexual way but it is after 2 or 3 meetings that you have sex. Same timing for estonians but, according the level of education, the approach needs to have a bit more subtility... So, it is very easy to have a pretty girl (and there are many beautiful), they only want to live at your foreigner standard for the duration of your stay. If you spend only a week-end, I guess it is a bad destination.

The best places to meet up girls is clearly the Venus club (almost especially done for meetings foreigners and girls). After will come the Robinson, just next, for russians girls, they can be pretty but never with a good level of education. The idea of the club is young russians who wan to meet older guys Russians with money... foreigners welcome for that here. For trying a one night stand, that is the best place.

After, this is the Hollywood, especially on Wednesday, if you are young and quite good looking. If you are about 40 and more, the cafe Amigo is the best.

About prostitution, you have few in every clubs, they are not obvious, there are girls who are dancing sexy by 2 (very sexy). Count between 500 to 1000 kr.

Outside this, the prostitution could be in 2 others way

- Houses, 1 hour 1000kr for foreigners, quality is not good according all the people I have met. I used one time... no more than ok. all the taxis bring you there. The taxi could be costly, especially if you do not like the first places... (around 200 to 600kr).

Striptease club. the private dancing is around 300 Kr, with some girls , you can have more with a tip. I have been in 5 or 6. the best is the lasso bar ( the only one where the girls are naked when dancing) and the one in Lai street. very good girl, one of them become a real friend.

In resume, it is a good country for girls if you spend some times and you are not old and ugly (eveb though you can find...). Last word, renting a flat is much better and often cheaper than hotel. I had one of the best flat available in this town (sauna...) for 12000 a month. It helps also for girls...

Basic prices

1 dollar 16 kroon

malboro 20 kr!!!!

restaurant from 80 to 500 kr

discos from 50 to 120 kr

hotel from 35 to 100 dollar ( the best cheap is named Hostel. accepting girls, nice staff, good location...)


Have a good trip

dustybin

You would not by any chance have the tel# or website of the apartment where you are staying, am visiting in Nov, and would prefer that rather than a hotel

Dundas

You can find the apartment that I stayed at through this website:
www.erel.ee

I will probably be back again in a weeks time!

I'm heading to Tallinn soon and looking forward to renewing some old acquaintances (!). But always on the lookout for something new and interesting. So........ anyone got any suggestions for where to find a young lady (max, late twenties) who is slim (or even skinny), fully shaven and up for BBBJ and anal, and photo sessions. Yeah, I know I don't want much, but if you don't ask you don't get!

And what is the view of the board on the Soho club - do the girls there do tricks?

Never been to the Soho Club.

The girls in the strip clubs I have been to are not generally on the game. Except 'Galaxy'. They offer escort but emphasise that it is 'companionship only' I am not too sure whether they mean it but I get the impression they do. Anyway, I am not going to pay their prices to find out how much extra the girl wants to shag me!

OTOH I have in the past had some success by just taking the girl for a 'private dance' and asking her afterwards for a date. The girls who are dancers usually consider themselves a cut above the working girls but when I have had dates, whilst money may not change hands, 'shopping' the day after is a normal part of the event. Cost, if any...? well that's really up to you and her!

if you visit tallinn try narva mnt 26. go into the garden back the house, ring the bell and wait. first day i met irene, very nice girl. only 400 eek for 1 hour. next day i returned and met another good girl, olga, she was really good. most girls didn´t speek english, but these two did.

have had some success with phoning numbers from the newspaper and finding numbers from soov.ee

basically, when i ask then if they speak english, they either hang up and are very helpful.

have tried two from these two numbers:
alucita (24hrs) 051949680
and laguna 053928708

both were 300eek /hr.

my question now is, what are some other good numbers to ring to get girls for an hour or two back to my apartment?

also what time do most of the little apartment places close?

from the info in previous posts I can add that
no answer from doorbell at 14-33 Lembitu
liivance 2-40 no longer exists
lembitu 8 is closed
maakri 30-3 no longer exists

narva mnt 10-19 (055950306) 400/hr
narva mnt 26 (055608741) 400-500/hr, pretty grotty place though i found
narva mnt 16-2 (06485981) have rang but not tried yet

any other apartments that are working?

so theres some info and questions for you all!
tiger.

Thanks Dusty Bin! I'm now in Tallinn and can confirm your thoughts about the SOHO! Too bloody cold to go out chasing this weekend so I think I'll have to resort to a home delivery service. Far better that the girl has to get dressed afterwards and go out into the cold..!

Tiger: $18 seems really cheap, what were the girls like and did they do takeaway?

I have good news for the users of taxis to go to brothels.

The taxi drivers were running a cartel whereby they were charging 400Eek comission for every scalp delivered to a brothel. Most of the clubs had put their prices up to 1200Eek, Morgan had stayed at 1000Eek. In most cases the clubs split the money with the girls so the girls were getting just 400Eek per hour, Less at Morgan and they were bloody busy!

The clubs realised this was silly, all were paying the same money and so the benefit was the same to all and the girls and the house were getting in some cases less than the taxi driver, who also sits around waiting to take the punter home, meter running of course...

So a few weeks ago the clubs told the drivers that the rates were being cut. It is now 100EEK and prices in the clubs are now running at 900Eek. How long the clubs will be able to hold the line, I don't know, but these clubs do have the best looking girls, the cheaper places tend to have the woofers.

My guess is the taxi drivers will build their own stables to a greater degree than they do currently, this is in itself a good thing, girls door to door, catalogue in the car. The more enterprising girls already work the taxis and the brothels.

Lembitu 8 may be closed but the is a new place just across the road.

I am not a big fan of brothels but it looks well made from the outside. Price was IIRC 750 per hour but you have to collect the girl, they don't do delivery. Not bad if you have an apartment on Kaupmehe or Lembitu... Especialy if you don't find what you want at Olumpia

the quality hasn't been excellent from the places i have rung and got home delivery. but for 300 EEK, its pretty cheap if you want a bit of action. the apartments brothels are fine, again the quality is not supurb, and they tend to want to do a 30 minute massage first. further it seems that they are mostly young russian girls.

what is the place called across the road from lembitu 8. also whats lily like, how mcuh and what is the quality of the ladies?

i am also trying to find a home delivery service with really good looking ladies. anyone have any phone numbers?

tiger.

Been a while since I posted last, but have only met a regular (not a professional working-girl, that is, although shopping is compulsary) that come to visit me when I contact her prior my travels. BTW - it was nice to see that there has been some activity on this thread again.


However - Visited Tallinn again for a few days with a friend, and did not feel to call the the regular this time.

On wednesday, after having had dinner with some friends at Bonaparte, me and one friend was to return to the SAS Radisson about 11 PM. On our way, we stopped by Mrs. Robinson, went downstairs, had a beer, and saw two girls stipping at the pole. Beautiful girls, as always, but no takeaway.

On our way back to the hotel, we crossed the Park at Estonian Boulevard, when two girls approached us, asking if we were looking for company. Hmmm... of cause - At least I was. :)

One girl was blond, but still russian, the other dark hair, and russian. The dark haired one looked a little shy, staying in the background while the other was talking to my friend. The blond one was asking EEK.3000,- (abt USD.200) from him. I started to talk to the other girl, and asked how much for a nice time for me. She answered EEK.400,- (USD 30), and saying privately to me that she was not happy with the other girl asking so much from foreigners (how could I disagree??).
As there is problems bringing girls to some of the hotels after 11 PM, she suggested that we should rent the sauna downstairs in Narva Mount no. 2. We went there, and paid EEK 200 for the sauna for one hour, EEK 20 for some towels, and had a very good time.

The girl, Rada, was in my book a 6 in look, but a 9 in attitude. She was outspoken, easy to talk english with, and a real tight pussy, as she was 20 years old. She worked hard to give me a good time in all aspects. She had a very wet nice pussy, with a real hard clit, and hard nipples as well - and she loved me liking the nipples. However - rather small breasts.

What more can you ask from 1,5 hour of fun at a cost of EEK 620,- with a (professional?) girl. Total cost about USD.45. The lady in charge of the Sauna got angry with us, since we did not leave after only one hour.

To my regret, the phone-number Roda gave me, was not working when I tried next day, hence I was not sure if I would be successfull in seeing her again. Well - she rang my hotel, and we met in the afternoon. However - did not have time for a repeat - but will try to meet her again on my next visit.

BTW - the phone-number for Makri 3-III that was posted earlier is not working. The reply from the operator was that the numbber is not excisting. Too bad, because I was hoping to meet Victoria that our fellow hobbyist posted info about some time back. PS. I read a post below saying it is gone.
Therefore a question to jyates: What happened to Victoria that you met at Makri 3-III, as she was the girl I was hoping to meet this time.

I think Tiger has hit the nail on the head. I couldn't find anything appealing for take out this weekend. None of the numbers I called seemed very helpful and I reckoned I wouldn't get what I was looking for (see my earlier post for the tech spec!) despite their assurances. So what we need here in the frozen Baltics is a reliable home delivery service. It's too bloody cold to go chasing!!!

The temperature last week was not so bad, about +2, but windy.

I found this page on the net:
[url]http://escort.future.ee/[/url]
but the phone number under "services" (english version) was "out of radio range or switched off" when I tried to call.

I do not know if this is "home delivery" as you call it, or only on the spot service.

Maybe worth while to check out.

Please give us a feedback after testing.

PS: there is also a forum on that site, but mainly in estonian.

have found a finnish forum on punting in tallinn. most of it is in finnish, but most finns speak english as well.

http://foorumi.sihteeriopisto.net/viewforum.php?f=42

Funnily enough I had found 'escort services' at the web site below on Sunday morning when lying in bed with nothing better to do than surf the net looking for pussy! I sent them an email as I'd read elsewhere that the phone number on the web site was out of action. I finally got an email reply today to ring another number but the guy at the other end had no idea what I was talking about!! So not looking good, this one. But thanks for the suggestion. I'm running out of time on this trip as I leave at the weekend but I'll be back in January to try again!

Sent these folks at escort services another email and got the reply that the new number would be available from 8 December! But still didn't give me any details by email of what was available. So none the wiser as yet!

Am I ever pissed off!
The fast boats from Helsinki were cancelled because of ice. I couldn't get a return ticket on the slow boats. Cancelled weekend away.

From now till March is a bad time to travel from Finland to Tallinn because the big boats are so slow (4.5 hrs to go 70Km plus up to an hour in customs)

went to narva mnt 10/19 friday night. they had some new girls working there - 3 pretty tasty girls. The i stayed with Christina, was 18, very fit body, nice tits and was fully shaven. started off with her doing a dance which turned into a lap dance with here straddling me, while we kissed and mucked around. she let me do any thing i wanted. then onto the bed full a bj followed by her riding me. after a bit, i was done. so while i worked up the energy for round 2, she gave me another dance - same routine but even more raunchier. this then led to another session on the bed and before I realised, my time was up. but it was 500 eek well spent. would have lived to have done the other 2 girls there at next, but there were other punters waiting. will be back again this week - recommended.

christina
looks - 8
body - 9
but i gather she is fairly new to the gig.

Hey guys,

I'm looking to visit Tallin in the spring when it is not so cold. I'm thinking about staying at the SAS Radisson. Can anyone give me an idea of where an American guy who speaks only English and Spanish can have a good and safe time in Tallin, and have good luck finding pro's or non-pro's? I'm looking for any information on the hotel itself (do pro's frequent bars in the Radisson?) or its surrounding area.

What is the disposition of the locals towards westerners?

Thanks for any info guys!

mastawsg@hotmail.com

Masta-

First, best thing, read the last few posts. You will see plenty of information about venues and girls written by and for English speakers.

You will I am sure gather that, even for worried American people, Tallinn is safe.

For information about the SAS Radisson go here:

http://www.radisson.com/tallinnee

There will be girls in the bars but you will have more fun going to other places noted within the previous posts. As to taking girls back, I assume that you will of course have booked a double room, in which case there will be no problem. If you book a single then you may well be asked to pay about 300eek for your guest.

If there are specific questions arising from your researches, please ask!

Marconista,

You asked about Victoria working at the now closed brothel at Makri 3. She left for Germany to work in an FKK house back in July. The house has since moved to Narva 10-19. Went there about 2 months ago and nothing but old dogs working. Read in a recent post that they now have some nice younger girls working there. I may have to drop by in the next day or two and check them out! Anyway, when I was there 2 months ago the women there said that Victoria had come back from Germany and was then on holidays in Russia. Don't know where she is. I'll ask about her when I go to visit in a day or two.

BTW - I am happy that more hobbyists are reporting on brothels that are open and what they are experiencing in them. I got tired of posting my own reports about the pros and not having many others post their own reports, so I've quit posting for some time. I'm still playing the hobbyist and still living full-time in Tallinn. If others want to see some new reports on new places, then you post your experiences and I'll be encouraged and start to post up-to-date info again.

Hi there jyates,,

Good to have you back on the board - long time no see.

Do hope that you will share any new developments with your fellow mongers.

Will email you.....

marconista

so jyates,

where's the best place then in your opinion? also, i have only been able to find russian speaking wls, where can I find cute young estonian wls?

i'm here for a couple of months, so look forward to you reply,

tiger.

Most of the girls on the game are Russian background, but not all. I think its a matter of luck!

You might want to try calling a couple of the agency numbers listed and ask. You can then make separate arrnagements with the girls.

I have met a few in bars and clubs but usually they are pretty discreet as they have other jobs and stuff.

Tiger88888

I don't know if anyone can say which brothel is the best, as the girls at each brothel are constanting changing. The key factor to me seems to be the woman administrator in each place. If the administrator wants to have a quality place with her girls providing a quality time to the hobbist then she will TRY to make the girls give a good time. If the administrator is not that keen on making a quality time then the girls quickly loss interest as well and become mechanical and clock watchers.

The brothels that I recommend cost between 300 - 500 EEK. For that money you generally don't find any stunningly beautiful women. You find girls and women that are looking to make money and about half the time they also really enjoy sex. Those are the ones that I look for. I don't want the ones that don't french kiss, that don't let you touch the honey pot, that don't enjoy their work. So if you and others are looking for girls that are attractive and height and weight porportional and who enjoy and give good sex, then I can hopefully steer you in the right direction.

I find that often times the real stunners think that they are somehow special and that their ass is golden. They generally have an attitude and are the ones that watch the clock and have all the rules! JMHO

I can recommend a place at Parnu Mnt 48 -19. I have been going there for well over a year and have had a consistently good time. I recomend Aljona, about 25 somewhat sagging due to having a child a few years ago, but still attractive with a GREAT attitude. She loves to french kiss, and loves to give rimjobs for extended periods. Last time she gave me a BBBJ - but I think that this is NOT a normal thing that she does. Also recomended is Jaana, about 21. Again loves to french kiss and also gave me a BBBJ the one time that I saw her. They both like to kiss and cuddle and are touching you all the time with nothing mechanical about their technique. They are both up for almost anything that you want.

You asked about finding some ethnic Estonian working girls. All the brothels are run by the Russian mafia. Because of cultural and economic reasons almost all of the girls will be ethnic Russians.

You will be able to find ethnic Estonian amateurs at nightclubs. Dusty Bin and others have posted of their experiences at them, you may want to read their posts.

It just depends on what you want and how much time, effort and money that you want to put into the hobby. Many of the hobbists that travel to Tallinn are here on business. They have told me that they don't have the time or inclination to troll in the nightclubs and see who they end up with at 2 am. They prefer to go to the brothel and have good sex without wasting all the time that goes into picking up an amateur at the nightclubs. Again just depends on you!

Marconista -

Victoria is back at Narva 10 -19. Saw her two nights ago. It was her first night back at work since June.

This a repost of a response to another post in the Russian section about finding girls for a couple of days.

Ah well there is a difference for you! I don't like brothels and I like to scout my own...

So the answer to your question is that I can not help you much...

If you want advance information on specific girls then I would be looking at Baltic Beauties or Le Fantasy (Google the names and they will be there). But they are bloody expensive. For the money, I would go to Tallinn and hit Olumpia (Bonny and Clyde) at about 23:00. Talk to the girls there, you should find something very nice and may be surprised on cost. There is also a woman often there with a string of very attractive girls. I think that she has them lined up for specific guys. Never bothered checking. SHe is short and chubby acting as mother hen to maybe six girls. They are always young and beautiful. I think she could sort you out.

Escort services seem to be running at about $300 for the night when prearranged. The girls will usually be model quality but will want to be discreet. Often will not go to restaurants and clubs but will keep you busy in the hotel room...

No contact information here as my friend has not given me the contact info, I will ask!

On the whole, I would go to Olumpia, see what you want and ask fairly directly, just make sure she is not with a boyfriend! RIght hand end of the bar is a good start8ing point, or the stool tables on the narrow section of the walkway round the front of the dancefloor before the bar.
It has been very good for me.

2 girls in Tallin?

Does anyone know of a good place in Tallin where they have girls with good experience in working in "teams". Especially if they are open to "working" on each other as well!

My past experiences shows that its great if the girls know their stuff. If not, its often quite disapointing.

Any clubs or brothels that specialize in this?


slacker

I stayed at a hotel near the port in Tallinn,
and there was a night club at the top with
many girls there on a weekend. Can you
help me as I have forgotton the name of
the hotel and on-top club. I didn't visit the
club that time, but I may go there again
and give it a shot!!

Patrick

I think that you are referring to the Metropol Hotel located at Mere Pst. 8b. The nightclub is called the Panoraam. You are right, there are sometimes a nice variety of young girls hanging out there! Good Hunting and please post a report!!

Panoraam is it!

Not a bad place at all.

Lots of Finns there. Profile is middle aged with lots of guys with white socks.

THere are usually quite a few girls there. I met a lovely one, Kristiina, 20 years old, $80 for the night. Don't just concentrate on the dancefloor and bar, look at the tables and banquettes in the raised area around the edge of the room.

Lots of civilians there also. It is a favourite weekend break spot for mr and mrs Pekka Suomi, so you should be polite. You may hit lucky and score a freeby off a visitor or local!

Thanks for that the Metropol it was, I will
post a report on anything when I get to
return later this year.

Dusty-bin

I appreciate your posts. Let me know if you are aware of any Estonian websites, where I may post a personal ad. I had a blast in Tallin last year ( see previous posts) and I am headed back in March and want to try the bars, personal ads and the brothels again. Do you ever travel down to Riga or Vilnius. I was there last year and found Riga fairly good despite the very pronounced presence of the Russian Mafia. I only got a hold on Vilnius my last day there, but look forward to going back.

BlairOne

Sorry guys, but I gave the wrong address in my post of 22 December. The correct address is Parnu mnt. 48 - 25. I gave the wrong flat number previously. Sorry if anyone tried to find it!

jyates

I bet the neighbours were well chuffed with all the guys knocking on the door looking all sheepish.... 'Is Irina there? Do you have any young girls?'

Nthing on the personal ads side, well there is some stuff in Estonian, but its bloody impossible to navigate unless you speak or read estonian. Try googling. IIRC www.uno.ee has some stuff, good luck.

Never been to Riga, maybe one day.

do you have a phone number for parna mnt 48/25?

Hi guys,

anyone tried baltic beauties? Was the service good?
They offer a two girls option, if anyone tried that
I'd like to know their opinion, were the girls into each other, that kind of stuf...

Thanks!

-- LG

Hey, guys.

This is my first post, and hopefully there will be many more to come...

Spent a week in Tallin three months ago, and had a great time. I was there with some friends, drinking, and having a great time. After a night salivating over the gorgeous girls at Hollywood we asked a cab driver to take us to a place with "bad girls". He laughed, and said he knew just the place. We asked for the best-looking "bad girls" in Tallin.

We drove out of the city into the woods to a nice neighborhood with large secluded houses, with gates and high walls. Stopped at a large house, I think it was called Club 102. Nice place, about 8-10 girls upstairs. Two were exceptionally beautiful, but they were doing strip-teases that night, so I got the impression they were not available for fun at that time... The rest of the girls were 7 to 9 in looks. Really beautiful, hot girls. Aged 18 to 21 max. They were nice and relaxed, let us take our time and choose.

One girl, about 19, blond, 5'2", great smile, tits etc., gave me an instant boner, so after a while I asked if we could go to a room. Duh! Paid 900 EEK at the bar, got some wolf-whistles from my friends and went to the room. Large room with a huge bed, and nice bathroom. The girl was a real beauty and had a great attitude. We giggled a lot, undressed, and showered together. She washed me good, and almost made me explode then and there. Moved onto the bed, and had great sex. BJ first, then several positions fucking, before I had to give up and blew my stuff. About 40 minutes of great sex. I was a happy man. Then she gave me a body-to-body massage and got me hot again, but sadly somebody knocked at the door after the hour was up, so we had to get dressed. Tipped her well, and went out to join the others. An excellent night.

The next night I went alone to another bordello in the same area. Nice house, nice girls, but not as nice as at Club 102. Chose a girl of 18, 5'5", dark hair, large breasts. She was not as into it, seemed fairly new, but I was drunk and did not care. Had so-so sex, good BJ. Then went back to the hotel and left Tallinn the next morning. Kicking myself for not having gotten laid every night I was there.

Hey Everyone,

I been thinking of visiting Tallin for a while now, and was wondering what was the average airfair from California, and rooming costs. Also does anyone know what the temperature will be like in late feburary and early march.

Thanks,
badboy

The temperature this week has varied between minus 28 and around minus 1 or 2! I suspect by late Feb or early March it could still be much the same. Certainly chillier than California!

For hotel accommodation have a look at www.hotelscentral.com. I use their services in other countries and find them very efficient and reliable. In Tallinn I prefer to stay in an apartment. Some very nice apartments are available at around $55-65 per day if you are staying for a week or so. Have a look at www.erel.ee.


And check out www.inyourpocket.com for a useful guide to Tallinn covering hotels, apartments, restaurants, entertainment, etc.


Enjoy!

A question for those who know Tallinn well.

In the Venus club the other night there was a gorgeous young blonde dancing on a small stage for the delight and edification of the patrons! She looked particularly fetching in her (extremely) tight gold catsuit which she then upzipped to the waist displaying her cute little breasts as she danced. I doubt if she is available (at least not for us older guys!) but my question is why did she need to have a minder with her who escorted her to and from the small stage, and never let her out of his sight, even when she had finished her show and was just dancing on the dance floor withh her friend. And the minder was an enormous guy - definitely not to be tangled with! Who is she I wonder?

Hello everybody,
going to Tallinn next week and look for a escort-lady for the first day (convenient to get everything shown by a native girl). Any Tip?
Thanks...

Which night was the girl dancing?

I have not seen girls there have miders before either. That said, security is never far away there. Those guys can FLY through a crowd to the centre of any trouble.

Dusty_bin, the blonde cutie was dancing in Venus last night, Saturday. And this guy was not your usual youngish 'heavy' but an older guy of serious girth who didn't look like he could run too fast, but god help you if he caught you!

Hello. Yesterday 3rd birthday with a little celebration at midnight in Venus Club. Very crowded, many pretty girls. Later one girl in a golden overall was dancing (GoGo). You talk about her?
Hollywood was almost empty at 22:30 so i left.
Before I have been to X-Club. The Club itself is very nice furnished, everything looks new and clean. The girls were very nice but you can't get more than a private dance for 350 EEK. Girls Drinks are the real ripp-off: 160 EEK. All in all nice to visit but thats all.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vin
[i]
...Club 102. ...
[/i][/QUOTE]

Well, would be nice if You can give some more information about this club - I couldn't find any match yet.

Digital.
I took a look at the Venus's programme. Saw nothing special. Not a superstar of any kind.

Maybe just a random bird on a short leash?

X-club is very nice but I have never seen it busy.

If you want to see attractive girls strip, then go to Borsi Bar on Lai. Very attractive girls, comfortable atmosphere. Some of the girls at X-club work at Borsi also.

Cost of a private is 300eek. No sex but if you get on well with the girl, you can get quite high mileage.
The girls are not on the game but have been known to make dates as civilians. High maintenance though (I know!)

"High maintenance though (I know!)"

how high?

Well there have been three, one was and is high maintenance emotionally, but costs me very little money; another, well, lets just say she could eat a menu from start to finish and the third, suggested that we should go shopping to the Bally shop next to my apartment. She had a bad attitude to my money... saw her for a few months though!

Hey, Frog.

Club 102 is a brothel, so you won't find information about it other than asking cab drivers etc. Probably run by the russian mafia. Most of the girls were russian too. Some scary looking 'guards' there, but very polite and welcoming. The second floor of the house has a bar (expensive), a lounging area, and a small stage for the dancers.

Anything in particular you wanted to know?

I was at the X-Club for a few hours with my pals, and had a great time. Fell completely for this Perfect 10-stripper. Her name was Natasha, and I think she was russian. Frustrating though, cause you can't touch the girls. Though one of my friends claimes to have been propositioned during a private dance...

No such luck for me. Would have spent a fortune to have an hour of fun with Natasha.

If she was called 'Natasha' the chances that she is NOT Russian are about ZIP!
Most of the girls will be Russian.

Most of the girls who dance are not on the game. Especially at a place like X-CLub. But if you were genuinely well off, she might be interested in some sex and shopping, hence my mention of the Bally shop.

Most of the girls have a pretty low opinion of the guys, they do tend to see us at our worst after all!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vin
[i]Club 102 [/i][/QUOTE]

Well, thank you for your comment. Meanwhile I've found that "Club" - looking for an Escort I was redirected to them... Spend 2 days with two of their girls in my appartement (approx. USD 1100).

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dusty_bin
[i]... 'Natasha' ... X-CLub [/i][/QUOTE]

Well, Natasha told me she's [b]Estonian[/b]; and "officially" you can't get more than a private dance in X-Club.

I don't think Natasha was in the game, but a girl my friend took for a private strip definitely was. This girl was also much more provocative in her dancing in the main room. Blonde, young... Maybe you know who I'm talking about...

Anyway, my friend declined as he was a newlywed... Poor sucker.

I spent some time chatting with Natasha, and she said she was a student at the university. Accounting, I think. I remember having ridiculous thoughts of sweeping her off her feet and bringing her home. Heheh.

dusty_bin, thanks for your research on the blonde cutie in the gold jumpsuit at Venus - as you say, maybe she was just on a short leash! It would seem that, to quote Ewiseman on the Warsaw board, that you and I shop the same shops as I ended that particular night in the Borsi.....!!!! In general I find that the girls in the clubs are not on the game but are probably more disposed to "getting physical" just by the very nature of their choice of profession. Sex and shopping just about sums it up! But as you say, since the girls see most guys at their worst in the club environment, a little bit of courtesy can go a surprisingly long way! I must try harder on my next visit to Tallinn but in rural Poland at the moment where the opportunities are somewhat limited!

Brothels in Tallinn

Hi guys!

I have had chance to visit most of the borthels in Tallinn during the last few months. These "clubs" are so called elite houses, where the price is around 1000 krones and the taxi driver gets nice share of it. Until the new year price was 900 krones (about 60 euros) but since it has been increased to 1100 (about 70 euros) and it's always for full hour.

Most of the girls speak at least some English, some very well. Older ones sometimes speak Finnish and almost everybody has Russian origin. I have had chance to talk with few girls from Ukraine and Latvia, altought most of them come from Narva or Kohtla-Jarve (those two big cities in Easter Estonia where 99% of people speak only Russian).

When it comes to sex it's basicly oral and normal intercourse in different positions with condom. Anal is very rare and requires an additional payment in most cases (to the girl directly). Some girls are shy and don't want to talk about these things in front of their friends but I think it's better to ask first than be disapointed.

Most of the houses charge entrance fee of 50 krones (3 euros), but in most cases it can be avoided with little negotiation. Drinks are very expensive (from 50 to 250 krones, 3 to 15 euros) and I recommend not to buy anything to the girls. It's just wasting your money without getting anything extra.

There are stripper in every club. They will take their upper part of their costume away but leave their pants on. Standard tip is 25 krones (1,5 euros), never give more. It will just make them creed. If the girl doesn't come to your lap, it's not worth of tip.

I have never had any problems but I wouldn't recommed going to any club alone totally drunk. Go with your friend if you want to drink like locals.

And to the houses. My personal favourites are Max, Leesika and Club 16.

Northern Tallinn, Pirita district

Club 102, Vabaõhukooli tee 102

One of the most well known places in Tallinn. Behind a motorized iron gate, friendly staff and usually high quality girls.

Club 16, Kõivu tee 16

Most days I find the largest collection of girls here, from 16 to 20. Has same owner than Club 102 and Club 4.

Club 4, Männimäe tee 4

Almost like the two others, hidden in the forrest and usually not so many girls.

Lepiku tee 34b

Quite standard place close to Club 4. Nice new house but sometimes rude service. Lots of girls.

City center

Koidu 68

Newest house in Tallinn. Many girls but sometimes rude service.

Tuukri 26

Very nice location close to harbour and city center. Very rude service.

Southern Tallinn, Nõmme, Mustamäe and õismäe districts

Max, Varese 30

One of my favorite places. Free entrance and beer with our club card. Usually nice girls but sometimes disappointments too.

Tedre 41

Has same owner than Max. Sometimes nice girls, altought I think that Max is owners nr. 1.

Sõlme 3

Nice new house in very quiet neighbourhood. Lots of locals.

Leesika 21

Quite resently renovered house, nice interior, nice girls. Sometimes real beauties from Latvia. Nice young Estonian girls which are hard to find from other places. Unfortunately old junks too. Fair service.

Infant, Järve 40

Maybe finest house in Tallinn but also the worst service. Very expensive drinks but sometimes can show the best girls in Tallinn too.

Tanuma 29

Place for locals altought they once didn't let us at the first when they thought we are Estonians. Nice service but rarely beautiful girls.

Kätki 6

Almost like Tanuma. Has old women but sometimes very nice young Estonians. Friend of mine took once three of them to my home for the night..

If you want to see some places and avoid taxi charges, please don't hesitate to email me (maximus@sihteeriopisto.net). Almost every weekend we have some kind of tournee with my Finnish friends.

Nice work, maximus!

I'm itching to go back now...

Maximus,

GREAT report!!! A few places that I haven't tried so thanks for the tips. The ones that I have tried you were right on in your comments and observations.

Keep em comin!!

Budget places in Tallinn

Along with the high quality brothels there are quite nice number of so called budget places in Tallinn. Price for one hour is between 300 and 500 krones (20 to 35 euros). Girls are usually not good looking than in more expensive places, but beautiful ones can be found.

Most of these places are already been reported in this forum, but I hope there is few new ones too.

Narva mnt 2

Just few hundrer meters from Viru Hotel. Quite nice girls, price 500 krones per hour. You have to call first, they will open the door then. Numbers are +372 51 83987 and +372 660 1163.

Narva mnt 10, apartment 19 (old Maakri 30, apartment 3)

Newest location on Narva mnt. 500 krones per hour. Someone has said that there is beautiful 18-years old Krista..

Narva mnt 16, apartment 2

Old and steady. Sometime two younger and good looking ones (incl. Eva), others old junks. Just 300 krones per hour.

Lembitu 7, apartment 21

Nice big apartment on first floor, sometimes very nice girls. Raded sometime ago by the police. 500 krones per hour.

Lembitu 14, apartment 33

On the 4th floor, usually from two to three girls. Price 450 krones per hour.

Pärnu mnt 48, huoneisto 25

Has same owner than Lembitu 7. Old junks, price 400 krones per hour.

Pärnu mnt 123, apartment 32

Same owner than Narva 16. Nothing special when it comes to girls. Price 300 krones.

Lõime 22, apartment 20

Close to hotel Stroomi. Quolity varies. Price 400 kroner per hour and two girls for 600 krones! You have to call first +372 52 50019.

Sikupilli 17, house

Old house close to Sikupilli's shopping centre. Stripper, few girls and quite reasonably priced bar. 500 krones per hour.

Paljassaare 43, house, White House

Long way from centrum in Paljassaare harbour area. Nothing special. 500 krones per hour.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vin
[i]Nice work, maximus!

I'm itching to go back now... [/i][/QUOTE]


Just remember to wear the snotty bag or you will really be itching!

well yjates - checked out parnu mnt 48/25 - and spent an hour with jaana - she is absolutely fantastic! very touchy feeling - was a bit sore so quite enjoyed the massage first - which turned into one of the most erotic massages i have had - complete with oilly body slide - she knows how to send a shiver up your spine with her fingernails. moved into move body slides on the front - french kissing, titty fucking (again oilly breasts - i was quite hard to control myself) so I got her to lie down and dinned at the Y. Funnyiest thing in retrospect - it spelt great. got her moving to the rhythum very quickly, a very juicy pussy. more kissing and cuddling then her on top and me finishing the deed of missionary. after everything was cleaned up - had another nice little massage, more kissing and cuddling. thoroughly enjoyed her company - an absolute pleasure - it seems like she really wanted to please - a change in attitude from other russian workers i have met. not sure about the quality of the other chicks there - but yaana gets my thumbs up - will be back for sure. btw - cost me 500 for the hr - this prices differs with the one below, so not sure what happened there.

tiger.

tiger

Jaana is rather special isn't she -- glad that you liked her!! Many of the pros that are working the houses now are quite mechanical and don't seem to enjoy their work -- to bad for them and for us!

About 3 weeks or so ago that house did away with the menu based pricing. Now it is 300 EEK per half hour or 500 EEK for a full hour, doesn't matter what you want to do. Although anal is NOT available for that price. Most of the girls do NOT provide that service and those that do, will want extra for it.

Thanks for the report. I saw Jaana a few nights ago, she was busy so I spend the hour with Alona (see my review of her on a previous post). I am planning on seeing Jaana again soon, she was looking hot the other night.

Happy hunting and keep those reports coming in!

Hi guys,

Have read all your posts with interest. Things seem to move pretty quickly in Tallinn, where I'm off for the first time pretty shortly. Only there for a couple of days, so don't want to waste time. Any advice gratefully received. Is X-club crap? What about Borsi? Which discos/bars are best to try to pick up local talent - perhaps Hollywood or Panoraam?

Is everything open 7 days, or is it very quiet earlier in the week?

And so many privates are reviewed here, can anyone offer their definitive best quality/price ratio? Thanks in advance to anyone who bothers to respond - promise I will review upon return!!

I just got back from BA Argentina. I had a great time. I am thinking of going to Tallin in May. Can you guys give me some advice where
to go for the good, how much is a good price to pay, are there GFE girls?

TheCrewof45@aol.com

Tommy NYC

X-club and Borsi are strip clubs. Dont expect to be findng to many hookers there.
I prefer Borsi to Xclub, although if you are feeling flush, the surroundongs in Xclub are very nice. Borsi is smaller and friendlier as well as less expensive. Some of the girls work both places.

When you say local talent do you mean civilians? How old are you, can you pull or do you normally need to pay?

Sunday and Monday are pretty quiet. The bars are open but the clubs are closed. Amigo is open every night but V. quiet on a Sunday.

Don't know about the apartments and stuff, not really interested. When you arrive, pick up a copy of the 'In your Pocket' guide. Cost is little, full of info including some escort, massage etc that seem to offer good value. THe places are generally the up market ones.

Thanks DB. I'm hoping to pull without paying - young enough for it to succeed quite often!! Any tips?

That's a whole big book!

If I were you I would do two things.
1. Stay in an apartment. www.erel.ee is in my opinion the best.
2. Have a story that you are either staying for a while, or returning soon to work. If people think that you are going to be around for a while then they will treat you differently

If you try to pull a girl on a one nighter, how does her self esteem feel when she knows that you just came to Tallinn to shag younger, more pretty girls than you could manage back home? If she thinks that there is a relationship in it then things change a lot!

But then, what do I know!

Best advice is to read a few posts. Spend 30 mintues reading and know more than me! If then you have some specific questions, please ask!

any been to lily's? any recommendations, and whats the cost?

thanks tiger.

I liked Lily's. It was right across from my Hotel, so it was easy to get to. There were about 8 girls there the night I was there, all russian and Latvian, but 4 that I found fabulous. Prices were 800EKR for an hour in the room. There are some posts in this forum about it, use the search function, or just read all the pages.

Peter

i believe that narva mnt 10/19 has moved to pronski 7/11 (keep walked up narva mnt away from the old town from narva 10 - first intersection turn right - pronski 7/11 is 50 metres down the road on the left hand side.

also, i girl i saw there, her name was victoria early 20's, with dark hard, great body and cute face - is she the same one who used to work at maakri?

tiger.

tiger

You are right about the place at Narva 10 moving about 200 metres onto Pronski. I just discovered that it had moved on Friday, 5.04. Don't know if the Victoria that you saw was the saw one that I reviewed last summer -- but it certainly sounds like her.

I saw Natalja, a Russian who speaks some English. She is about 23, cute, about 170 cms and 55 kgs. She has had a child so her breasts sag a bit. Anyway, paid for an hour. She gave a great blowjob, turned that into a good screwing and then I dumped my load when she went back to blowing me. We talked some, she gave me a nice massage, then ended the hour with another vigorous screw. She is enthusiastic and is into her work and I highly recommend her. She is NOT a clock watcher and seems to enjoy being on top. The rate is 500 EEK.

Do chicks in Tallin usually do BBBJ?

Thanks

Gladiator

Depends on the chicks that you want. In my experience almost none of the brothel workers do BBBJ. You can read my posts and find out the ones that do. Most of the amateurs do though!

Any thoughts from you, Dusty Bin?

Decided to try Lily's this evening for the first time. There's always something of a thrill about trying a new place for the first time. The choice wasn't brilliant but then a nice youngish cutie appeared so decided to go for it. 1000 EEK for a nice room with shower and sauna (800 EEK for a basic room) for one hour. Oksana (for that was her name!) was slim and shaven but wouldn't go for the triple play despite having a most inviting posterior. But two out of three ain't bad I suppose! Total cost was around 1500-1600 EEK including a vodka or two for the young lady, admission, etc. Say €100 - not bad value methinks!

I don't know too much about the brothels, but in the few I have taken girls from, then a rubber wa always used.

WIth other women, civilian or professional it has been a case of some do and some don't. I ask, but never push the point. I always figure that she is looking out for herself and has to be there long after I am gone. Always her choice...

For some reason if you get to know a girl then the close combat socks often get forgotten about.

Girls back to Hotels?

Hi, I have some general questions that I would be most grateful if someone could help me out with.

- Is it any problems bring back girls to Hotel rooms in the nomarl hotels? (any extra fee or complications?)

- Is there any good area where the stripclubs and brothels are within walking distance?

- What is the normal closing times for these places?

- Which 4 star hotel is located in that area?

- Is there any laid back bars with pool tables around that area?

Any info would be great!!

Best Regards

Slacker

DB.....if I go to Tallinn one evening on my next trip what do you recommend for Hotel and places....similar to Mikado to visit ?

Cheers
Joe

If you want a single night whotel and hore package then go for:

1) Hotel Olumpia (Reval Group) and their associated club, Bonnie and Clyde.

2) Hotel Viru and their club Amigo.

3) The eternal Finnish favourite: Hotel Metropol and Panoraam, so called because of its 8th floor view of the city and harbour, a perfect place to discuss business in the fresh air.

they are listed in order of my preference. You should avoid Sunday and Monday night as the place are either graveyard quiet or closed.

None of these places are like Mikado in as much as a large number of the female clientele are civilians, but if you ca not find a bedwarmer in one of these places then you need your wallet examining!

For each of these establishments, I would book a single room package from one of the ferry companies and then pay the 'extra bed' fee of 300EEK.
When I was last at the Viru, I just asked for an additional key card when I registered, they gave me one, no charge. If the girl is good looking, keep her until breakfast to make the other diners jealous...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dusty_bin
[i]If you want a single night whotel and hore package then go for:

1) Hotel Olumpia (Reval Group) and their associated club, Bonnie and Clyde.

2) Hotel Viru and their club Amigo.

3) The eternal Finnish favourite: Hotel Metropol and Panoraam, so called because of its 8th floor view of the city and harbour, a perfect place to discuss business in the fresh air.

they are listed in order of my preference. You should avoid Sunday and Monday night as the place are either graveyard quiet or closed.

When I was last at the Viru, I just asked for an additional key card when I registered, they gave me one, no charge. ... [/i][/QUOTE]

You are absolutely right on the money with what you are saying dusty_bin.
However - must correct you on Amigo - it is open on mondays, and a lot of people since B&C is closed mondays.

A very good idea to ask for an additional key-card. I will do that next time also. But guess you have to make sure that the right lady walk to your room, not a hustler or a thug (?)

Dusty bin you are a god!, A few of us travel 4-5 times a year to Tallinn, and your comments on Bonnie and Clyde and Cafe Amigo are spot on, it is quite impossible to leave there without a fit 22 year old on your arm, and since your post a year ago we always rent an apartment through www.erel.ee, used to stay at the Scandic Palace, but the prices there were going up on a weekly basis!. Now we get a three bedroom apartment for 100 euros a night right in the old town center, which is for nothing when 3 of us visit. Keep up the good work!.

Hi guys,

Couple of questions just before I depart for Tallinn - what are your votes for the no.1 strip club. Full strip essential, Number of dancers and dances, good lookers, and possibility of touching her &/or wanking off in a private dance?

Haven't managed to find any reports on Baltic Beauties. Prices seem very good for overnighters and there are a couple of horny girls' pics on their website (esp Mona). Has anyone used the service - are they reliable, do the girls perform well, OWO available etc?

Await my reports with interest!!

My favourite strip club is Borsi on Lai street in the old town. It is small and comfortable. The girls dance and sit with you. They leave on their G-string, usually.

A decent tip is 25-30 Eek per dance.

For 300Eek you can have a private dance upstairs. They do not fuck and I don't think I could bring myself to w@nk in front of one of them, although it does happen.
The amount of touching and feeling depends upon you and the girl. Some are very big fun, others are just ordinary fun.

In the afternoon, I sometimes find my way to Galaxy, on Muurivahe street. Never been at night, girls are younger than Borsi and tend to be too skinny for me, but many love them. Their girls often appear at late night shows in clubs.

For a more mixed event, then try Robinson. They have sauna and pool upstairs, bar/disco on the ground floor and strip bar (L'Atlantide) in the basement after about 23:00, separate admission. Nice friendly girls, private dances. They wil join you for a chat and a drink but do not hustle you over much, just nice and friendly.

The manager or garderobe guy at Robinson might offer a girl and sauna. It will NOT be one of the angels from downstairs. I did it once with a friend. Two skanky girls who looked as happy to see us as we were to see them turned out to 'empty the pipes'. Cost was IIRC 500Eek for the sauna and two girls for the hour. Some things are expensive even when free...

Girls from Borsi and Atlantide have been known to go on dates...
The girls usually work 3 days on and two days off so they need entertaining on their off nights!

Other places:
X-CLub, nice ambience: attractive girls, expensive - some of the girls at this place work at Borsi also.

Lassoo, never been: tourist trap for Finns.

Soho: Newish place, never been has a decent rep.

There is a place next to Terrarium, in the port, again for Finns, a girl who works there told me it was cold and boring. Can't remember the name, but it is right next to Terrarium.

Most of the brothels have a stripper or two to encourage the punters. Not worth a trip though and they want 50Eek to get up and look bored.

See my story in the Czech (Other Areas) and Finland (Helsinki) section where the trip started and finished (for now). It's a little adventure started in Christmas and pausing now in Easter:

- Czech Republic (Znoijmo, Prague, Brno)
- Slovak Republic (Nitra)
- Poland (Warsaw)
- Latvia (Riga)
- Estonia (Tallinn)
- Finland (Helsinki)

Address: Humala 4
Price: 400 / hour
Phone: 051-989862

Address: Lembitu 7 / 21
Price: 500 / hour
Phone: 0-6607401

Address: Lembitu 14 / 33
Price: 450 / hour
Phone: 0-6480277

Address: Narva MNT 14 / ??
Price: 600 / hour
Phone: 051-969097

Address: Narva MNT 16 / 2
Price: 300 / hour
Phone: 0-6485981

Address: Narva MNT 2 / ??
Price: 500 / hour
Phone: 051-83987

Address: Pronksi 7 / 11
Price: 500 / hour
Phone: 051-925534

Address: Pärnu MNT 123a / 32
Price: 300 / hour

Address: Pärnu MNT 48 / 25
Price: 400 / hour
Phone: 055-76680

Address: Sakala 14
Price: 600 / hour

Address: Sikupilli 17
Price: 500 / hour

Address: Tihase 29a
Price: 600 / hour

Address: Tuukri 26
Price: 600 / hour
Phone: 0-6605213

Address: Väike Amerika 7
Price: 400 / hour
Phone: 055-19586

Thank You juuh!

It is always good to have some adresses with price.

Visitor

just a note, lembitu 14/33 is no longer - there is some man living in the apartment now (who, btw, kindly offered to take to somewhere else).

I am booked into The Old House Hotel for a few days next month. Can anybody tell me anything about the place? Is it okay to take a girl back to your room? Should you pay or tip anybody if you do?
If you have any information please post here.

I have just looked at the website for "weekend.ee/entertainment under escort services and notice that every site listed has "Harju maakond" just before the telephone number. I originally thought that this was an address but they all 28 of them cannot be in the same place. I looked it up in an Estonian/English dictionary without success. Can anybody enlighten me?

jerry - i gather you are staying at the old house in Uus st. if so, its a fairly small hotel - i think like only 8 rooms or something - maybe not quite the amount of discretion needed if you were to bring a girl back. in terms of tipping someone, the people who operate the desk late at night are early twenty year olds - so may be not be approriate. you could try - but imho not the best place to take girls back.

tiger.

Jerry-

The Old House is NOT a good choice!

They close the door at about 23:00 and as Tiger said, there are a couple of youngsters who man the desk at night. The place is a guest house rather than a proper hotel. I think that there would be a fair bit of embarrassment if you traipsed back with your 'belle du nuit' at 04:00!

Old House does have some apartments though. I have used a couple of them. There is a very nice one on Vene (66) IIRC, obviously there is no problem with a place like that and the girls will love it!

Harju Maakond means Harju County.
Tallinn is in the county of Harju.

Thanks Dusty Bin for your answers. You certainly know your way round Tallinn! Thanks also for the "Harju Maakond " translation. That explains things. I will probably only stay at The Old House for one night in view of yours and Tiger's remarks. Have you any suggestions for a reasonably priced hotel (aroud 400-500 per night for a single) and preferably near the cetntre or near where all the action is? I have never been to Tallinn before so do not know my way around. Thanks for all your help so far

a cheaper hotel near the centre:
Hotell G9
Just a five-minute walk from Old Town, this small hotel on the third floor of an office building is a good pick for location and quality. Rooms are modern and spotless. extra bed 150kr

16 Singles: 500 kr 16 Doubles: 600 kr
16 Triples: 750 kr
http://www.hotelg9.ee/

or just check out http://www.inyourpocket.com/estonia/tallinn/en/category?cid=996

tiger.

Thanks Tiger for information on G9 hotel. I have booked in there for three nights. Back to my earlier questions: Would there be any problems taking a girl back to my room? Should I pay anybody at the hotel or tip them?

CHEAP HOTELS & HOSTELS NEAT THE CENTRE:

Hotell Dorell
Address: Karu 39
Phone +372 626 1200
http://www.dorell.ee/

Hostel G9
Address: Gonsiori 9
Phone +372 626 7100
http://www.hotelg9.ee/

Hostel Tehnika
Address: Tehnika 16
Phone +372 653 3173
http://hot.ee/hosteltehnika/

Hostel
Address: Uus 26
Phone +372 641 1281
http://www.tallinna.net/hostel_uus26.htm

Hostel OldHouse Guesthouse
Address: Uus 22
Phone +372 641 1464
http://www.oldhouse.ee/

Hotell Kristiine
Address: Luha 16
Phone +372 646 4600
http://www.kristiine.ee/

Hostel Vana Tom
Address: Väike-Karja 1
Phone +372 631 3252
http://www.hostel.ee/

Juuh has provided a useful list of hotels.

Don't forget that in most cases that you will be expected to pay extra for any accompanying guests after 23:30. I don't stay at the hotels on the list as I think you will find that once you add the cost of a guest to the liklihood that the bed in a single room will be tiny, you will be better of in a better place...

Many of the cheaper hotels will be much as we described the Old House situation, it is a part of being cheap...

When I stay in an hotel, I prefer the Reval Express hotel by the ferry terminal. Cost is $60 per night (I get a 20% discount on that though!), per room, including breakfast. All beds are doubles and although guests may be asked to register, a good thing IMHO, there is no extra charge.

The Express is only a few years old, very central and pretty comfortable, if basic. With some places, what you save in hotel cost, you pay in taxi fares. (For some reason, ladies of the night do not seem to be able to walk more than 100m!)



If you are coming over from Helsinki by ferry, you might want to look at a hotel package deal with a ferry company, they can be very good value for money.

But as dusty_bin has said before, an apartment is also a good option, with Erel (www.erel.ee) a good start. And no, I've no connection with them other than as a satisfied customer! For around 60 euro you get decent accommodation and facilities and a sauna as well. 'Nuff said!

Just back from Tallinn. Great time.
In brief here are the tips I pass on and will remember myself for my return:

1) It'll cost a lot more than you budget for! Yes drinks are fairly cheap but when you're drinking or entertaining all day it just drains out of your wallet!
2) Strip bars - much of a muchness. I liked Atlantide, but that was probably because the gorgeous Kata (Kate she says to the Brits) was there. A perfect 10 without any quibble. Atlantide's privates were less adventurous than some, but the sight of Kata naked was a great start to proceedings. She gave me her number too, while naked!! Some strip bars charge 300 for private then extra 200 for "hardcore" show, and they try to get another 200 for touching or wanking, but you can probably skip that with some persuading! Allegedly!
3) Try the local talent early in the evening. Pretty good success rate with flirting which can easily progress if you're lucky.
4) Cafe Amigo appears to be ok, especially when other places are quiet early in the week. However, I was told many girls were working when I thought they were just out with mates! I was warned off one local girl seconds after my tongue was down her throat and my hand on her nipple - her "friend", older, harsher woman effectively told me she could get me a good girl at her club....
5) Trust WSG - take the print out with you! Pronski 7/11 is the best. 500/hr for a gorgeous sweet 20 yo woman. Natalya or Natasha she calls herself. Very slim, short dark hair, everything goes. Started with condom, but after some nice treatment she soon discarded it and was intent on sucking me dry. And my mate had the same experience too! Speaks no English though!
5) On leaving Amigo got talking to another girl. About 25, a translator so excellent English. Smouldering eyes, jet black hair, very slim, but sadly a chain smoker. I assumed she was working but started chatting. Another mate of mine swears she wasn't working. Anyway we went back to my room and I gave her a nice present if she wasn;t working!! Think she probably dabbles if she likes the look of you. She didn't have any condoms so that may have been the major clue!
Didn't need rubber for oral (CIM) again! This star did everything - didn't go for A but as she was rimming for Estonia I assume that was available too. Seemed genuinely disappointed when I flaked out after 4th round. Sleep then she was gone in a puff of morning smoke!
6) Book a double room with only one name before you arrive. It seemed to help when I tried to get above girl past reception. She registered, but no charge despite the sign in the welcome pack in all the rooms that an evening guest costs extra 250. My double was a special found on internet, 4*, with brekky and cost less than those apartments, so it can be done!

And that's all I can remember at the moment - I may add more as it comes back to me!!

I'm travelling to EE countries on monthly basis. I'm starting to post reviews on my favourite places. Tallinn :

Tallinn is a very enjoyable small city during the spring and summer time. Small streets in the Old Town - medieval style - with many cafe's, bars and restaurants with many outdor sitting place.

Native Estonian girls are easy to meet, most of them are speaking english. There are friendly, smilling and not affraid to accept a drink and chat with you. If you like pretty young blondes Tallinn is your place...

* Bars :

There are now many bars in Old town Tallinn where you can find locals, expats and tourists.

I recommend you Nimeta Bar ( No Name bar - Suur Karja street 4/6 - tel. + 372 641 15 15 ) and Nimega bar ( Name bar - Suur Karja street 13 - tel. + 372 620 92 99 ) . Probably the best ones to meet regular estonian girls. It's quiet easy to meet girls speaking english in these bars. I was succesfull there at differents occasions. Girls are pretty and well dressed - from 18 to 30 y.o.

I found another interesting bar near Old Town Square - always plenty of nice estonian girls ( students, young girls ). It's called Avenuu bar ( Suur-Karja 10 - tel : + 372 644 10 19 ). It's open non-stop - everybody knows it.

Molly Malones ( Mundi street 2 - tel. + 372 631 30 16 ) is also well known by expats and local girls looking for contacts with foreigners.

In Beer House - a micro brewery - you can find group of mixed students and young estonians. Dunkri street 5 - tel. + 372 627 65 20.

* Discos / Dance clubs :

Another way to meet regular girls in Tallinn is to go to disco. Of course you can be asked by amateurs/semi-pro's or pro's too.

Bonnie & Clyde ( Olumpia hotel, Liivaia street 33 - tel. + 372 631 58 93 ) and Cafe Amigo ( Viru hotel, Viru Valjak 4 - tel. + 372 630 13 11 ) are located in hotels. When I went to these 2 dance clubs, I found little clients. Most of them where older. I was approached by some pro's. Not very attractive and expensive ( like in every hotels ).

Best club was probably Venus Club ( Vana Viru street 14 -tel. + 372 641 81 84 ). A lot of pretty young girls 18-25 - well dressed. Try also Hollywood club ( Vana Posti street 8 - tel. + 372 627 47 70 ) and Mr Robinson ( Aia street 10 - tel. + 372 627 36 00 ). Most of the girls who will follow you to your hotel will give free sex. Just buy them drinks :-) Paid girls will make you understanding that they are working before leaving the club to your hotel. You can negociate price. I had always very good sex withn both regular and working girls I picked-up.

* Strip clubs :

In strip clubs can be found more than a private dance :-) Be carrefull with lady's drinks ! Your bill can be pretty high :-)

X- club ( Harju street 6 - tel. + 372 631 05 75 ) is the most luxury and most expensive one. Check my post on WSA.

Borsi bar ( Lai street 7 - tel. + 372 641 19 59 ), Lasso bar ( Mere pst. 6a - tel. + 372 661 61 99 ) are cheaper. Also Soho bar ( Kaubamaja street 3 - tel. + 372 681 46 16 ). All these strip bars are offering private dances at expensive prices, go directly to the main menu and be sure to check what is included with the girl before paying ( some girls will provide only lap dance, some girls only HJ and/or BJ, some girls full sex ).

I found also the following addresses but had no opportunity to visit them : From dusk till dawn II ( Rataskaevu street 18/20- tel + 372 56 155 373 ) and Glaxy Cabaret ( Muurivahe street 23 A - tel . + 372 631 43 36 ), From dusk till dawn I ( Endla street 15 - + 372 662 02 09 ), Star Salong ( Roosikrantsi street 15 - tel. + 372 644 27 11 ).

* Private flats / massage salon :

Many russian girls are operating from a flat/apartment. Sometimes alone, sometimes in small groups of 3 to 5 girls. Check always the address and appartment number by phone before going there. Language can be a problem as they speak bad or no english...

Club 29, Adamsoni street 29 - tel + 372 53 916 795

Erotic massage - tel . + 372 51 989 308

Erotic massage Victoria - tel + 372 53 991 538

Erotic massage - tel. + 372 55 980 833

Erotic massage Teresa - tel. + 372 55 983 688

Erotic club - tel. + 372 660 74 01

Amore club - tel. + 372 664 78 53

Relax for men - tel. + 372 55 957 018

Erotic massage - + 372 53 918 287

Check also local newspapers for ads and phone numbers. You can also ask taxi drivers but keep in mind that they will drive you to the club giving him the best commission ( of course charged to your bill ). Taxis are not expensive in Tallinn but some taxi drivers can try to overcharge your bill as foreigner/ first timer. Hotel receptionists have usually their own contacts for escort services.

For information, many hotels have now internet connections for their guests. Otherwise, you can find internet cafes in Tallinn downtown. I used the ones in the department store located behind the Viru hotel ( Gonseiori street 2 ). It's on the upper floor ( 5th ? ). Or the one located in the Stokmann department store ( Liivalaia street ). It's on the 2nd floor.

* Restaurants :

Many restaurants in down town offering differents types of cuisines : medieval/Estonian cuisine but also russian, Caucasian ( Georgian, Armenian ), international, French, italian, Tex-Mex...

- Medieval/estonian : Old Hansa ( Vana Turg 1 - tel : + 372 627 9020 ) or Kuldse Notsu Korts ( Dunkri 8 - tel : + 372 628 65 67 ).

- French : Cathedral ( Lossiplats 2/Toom-Kooli 1 - tel: + 372 644 35 48 ).

- Russian : Troika (Raekoja plats 15 - Tel : + 372 627 62 45 ).

- World cuisine : Pegasus ( Harju 1 - tel : + 372 631 48 10 ).

- Classic luxury restaurant : Stenhus ( Puhavaimu 13/15 - tel : + 372 699 77 80 ) ( in Schlosse hotel ).

* Hotels :

I usually stay at the Radisson SAS hotel or Reval hotel Central located near the Old Town ( max 10 minutes walk ). Staffs are friendly, professional and speaking well english.

If you're looking for a luxury hotel with atmosphere ( Radisson SAS and Reval hotels are more business hotels ), choose St. Petersburg hotel or Schlosse hotel lovated in Old Town.

Last time my travel agent told me about a new hotel called Vana Viru also located in Old Town. He sent me pictures by e-mail but I never stayed there yet.

Feel free to contact him for more informations at hobbytravel@hotmail.com - BTW both managers are hobbyists themselves.

Tallinn is crazy!
Im here now - actually been here just one day - and i have already fucked my first estonian, a non-pro girl i met at a disco last night.
And i have already an appointment for meeting another girl this night, for dancing, drinking and hopefully some fun later.

And some boys have already tried to mug me!

All this in one day.

This town IS crazy!

I'll give you my report when im home - IF i go home.

chr

Hello Hrchrister!

Thank for your report, and please keep us updated with more information.

I have a couple of qustions, that you or someone else maybe can answer.

1) What is the dress-code over there? I realize it is different code from one place to another, but what do you think is appropriate in places like cafe amigo, bar nimegga and hollywood nightclub.

I rather not want to show up in bar nimegga in the wrong dress - looking like a complete fool! I guess the pro's really dont care, but I had also a certain hope to make acquaintance to some locals.

2) What happend when the boys tried to mug you? Is that common?

Will soon arrive Tallin myself! So all Mothers in Tallin - watch out for you daughters, lol

I will be in Tallin for the first time in August.

I would like suggestions for hotels, cost no problem where you can find good looking women, or failing that where you have no problems getting them in.

Given y request above, where can you find girls that you easily pick up.

Thanks for your help,

Rean

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Waper
[i]Hello Hrchrister!

1) What is the dress-code over there? I realize it is different code from one place to another, but what do you think is appropriate in places like cafe amigo, bar nimegga and hollywood nightclub.

I rather not want to show up in bar nimegga in the wrong dress - looking like a complete fool! I guess the pro's really dont care, but I had also a certain hope to make acquaintance to some locals.
[/i][/QUOTE]
First: take it easy :)
Nimega is mostly a bar for young people, croudy, small area for dancing, music and couple of bars. I wouldn't go there with suit and tie, you might be the only one :) From fashion jeans to smart dressed.
Free entrance

Hollywood is a place for more classy people (entrance is 100 EEK :) ) and maybe more elegant ones.

Amigo is the night club of Viru hotel where you can find pro (but not only). Something in between the previous ones. Suit is fine. There is a large dancing floor, 3 bars (if I remember correctly). You have to pay for enter but I don't recall the amount, could be at least 100EEK as well.

I might go to Tallinn today for a few days :)
CIAO

Don't mean to butt in, but from my experience in the eastern block, dress is really important.

You don't have to wear a suit. Just dress nice. This is pretty much a rule everywhere you go. It is definitely a class society and you want to show everybody which class you are in. If you dress down, dress "cool" down. That works too...but it still should look expensive! You want to set yourself apart from the local guys with no money to speak of wearing knock-off cheap clothes or old fashions. Generally speaking, eastern european girls will spend almost all of their spare change on clothes and holidays, so they expect their suitors to be someone they can be seen with...

It is of course possible to dress down and still look sexy or cool, still girls do expect you to show taste. Sometimes I like to dress down too, but in eastern europe I have learned to dress more European and even if dressing down, in hip hop style or grunge style or just ultra casual or whatever, it should be done with flair. There is a market for everything, you just have to find that perfect mix of looking like you didn't care how you looked and still ended up looking great...

To be safe going into clubs you don't know, don't wear jeans or sneakers. Jeans are appropriate in a lot of places, but not everywhere. Sneakers are only appropriate in really casual places with an Irish pub atmosphere or in certain hip hop or techno clubs.

Everybody has their own taste, these are just my observations.

this board has been a bit quiet of late - anyone have any good reviews or recommendations?

for my 2 cents - i found a nice chick from one of the home delivery numbers - 053928708 - russian bird out from st petersburg for a month - doesn't know how to stop! fully shaven and a lovely person - with enourmous energy. not bad for 400 eeks.

anyway, lets hear what everyone thinks - where is the best place to find:
1. quality,
2. pse,
3. gfe,
4. value for money?

tiger.

Hi Tiger,

can you describe her a bit ?
I tried Viktoria / Anzelika(http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/sivut/aikuisviihde_naisoppilaat_nayta_viro.php?name=viktoria).
Red hair, quite small, large butt and C-cup saggy tits. Good service and attitude but nothing to remember (50€). She can do anal.

After a meeting in Helsinki on a Friday I decided to spend the weekend in Tallinn. So I choose the Nordic Jet Line because their Terminal is central in Helsinki. The girl at the counter advised me to book the Hotel for Tallinn already there since it is a weekend. So I paid about 140 Euro for a round trip including one night in a reasonable priced Hotel.
The trip takes almost 2 hours and after immigration I proceeded to the Hotel Metropol. It is easy to find (walking distance). But when I arrived there, the girl at the counter told me, that there is no reservation for me and that all rooms are booked. So she called Nordic Jet Line and they arranged another room for me in higher priced Hotel. The lobby at the new Hotel was very small and I was already afraid that I would prefer to stay in Metropol. But coming to the room I was very surprised: a really to floor apartment, brand new made in old factory hall.
Following the advises in WSG Forum, I went then to Pronski 7/11. A 24 year old girl with black hair opened and I took her for one hour (500 EEK). She offered a towel and guided me to the shower. She then asked me, if I want a massage, which I accepted. After about 10 min I turned to my back and the massage became more sexual. She unwrapped her towel and started a BJ (covered only at this place). I moved her to 69 position and came within a few minutes. After some tender massage, she put her attention again to my cock, who showed a nice reaction. The following sex in all positions was great and she did everything to please me. So after about 50 of the 60 minutes I came again, when she was riding me. With a smile on my face I left the place and headed to old city.
I just roamed around and after about half an hour my eyes crossed young blonde girl who was also waling alone. We smiled at each other and I approached her and asked if she knows english. She has even studied english and agreed immediately to have a drink with me. What followed now, made my trip to Tallinn really unforgettable. This 23 year old girl spend the next 2 days with me, guided me to the city and restaurants – and fall in love to me (I am 46). When it came to sleep, she wanted to spend the first night at her home, which I accepted (I had already my 2 shots this evening). The following morning she came to my Hotel and we headed straight to my room. Too bad she had right during this weekend her menstruation, so the whole thing was a bit messy. She had had only once sex before and so she didn’t have much experience. But I guided her hands and her mouth to my most sensitive parts. She was a fast learner and provided a wonderful BBBJ. After some massage in the shower we proceeded to do some sightseeing in the old city.

Since this girl had to go back at work on Monday morning and there was not much action during the night due to her menstruation, I went on Monday morning again to Pronski 7/11. This time Anastasia opened. She came right out of the shower and was wrapped only with her towel. She is an about 23 year old blond Estonian and does a perfect BJ, really deep. In between the actions she massaged me with her perfect massage technique. They seem to have 24 hour service in most of the apartments, at least in Pronski they do. The problem there is just, that I have mostly 2 (good looking and young) girls, but only one room available.

After a good haircut for EEK 130 done by a Russian lady I proceeded to the ferry with a big smile on my face. Tallinn really rocks!

Hello!

I´m going to Tallinn 25/7. Have anybody visited some good adresses resently?

Visitor

There was some action in the 24 hour bar, the Avenue, on my last visit, very late, 5am. Just beckon them over if they don't approach you, you are in the FSU and they like their men strong! Pulled a semi pro for 400 krone. Money wasn't mentioned until before the deed and then I just gave her what I had. Communication was a bit of a problem as I don't speak Estonian and she didn't speak English. A pro in the Avenue wanted a gift of 1000 krone but I just laughed and walked away. I approached girls in Cafe Amigo but they were all just regular Estonian girls on a Friday night and the charm failed!

To Dusty_Bin and all Tallinn Experts

I'll be in Tallinn soon and I need some advices from you fellow mongers :
is Domina City Hotel a good location for hobbying ?
It must be, at least, "girlfriendly".
Do you think, I'd better stay at "Hotel Viru"?

Then let's see if I did my homework right, before getting there ;

"Places of interest" :

-Apartments : Pronski 7/11. Any other ?
-Clubs (Free-Lancers/Regulars) : Venus Club, Cafe Amigo, Hollywood (?),
Mr. Robinson. Any indication of prices ?
-Bars/Pick-up joints : Nimeta Bar, Nimega Bar,
Molly Malone's(Early in the evening).
-Strip Clubs : Borsi Bar. Worth a trip. I'll eventually try to arrange a date with one of the girs.

Thanks a lot to all of you guys and I'll keep you posted !

mro

Daytime:
What is the best option during the day? Between 1:00 PM and 4:00 PM? When I was in Tallin like four years ago I think I remember seeing girls sitting down at the main square. Anybody know what they run for? Or am I better off finding an apartment/brothel.

Thanks, and Happy Hunting!

mro -

other apartments of interest:
Pärnu mnt 48, apartment 25
Lembitu 7, apartment 21

both 500eek/hr.

In my opinion Tallinn is wonderful in these days. I have only some suggestion: try to find a balance between apartment girls and no-pro girls. Both have pro & cons. It's up to you.

I have a suggestion: try the internet cafè in the afternoon...

Miami Vice

yes the non pro girls are fantastic - but it takes a bit of nuturing... but well worth it in the long run (if you are staying longer than a weekend/week)

tiger

To Tiger88888

Dea Tiger,

thanks a lot for your reply regarding a couple of private apartments.

Do I have to call before getting there ?

Just to avoid they keep me waiting...

Thanks

pressing the doorbell is enough - but its handy to have a phone and their phone number in case no one answers the door. but those 3 places i mentioned below are pretty responsive (to the doorbell buzzer)

Hi all and thank you for all your reports (and to Jackson for his work)

I have been to Tallinn a few times but for short time (till one week). I am wondering if it's easier to pick up regular girls when you are alone or when you are with a friend?

I just noticed that most of the girls go out to discos or pubs in groups (usually 2 or 3 girls).

My next trip to Tallinn will be current August.

What do "Tallin experts" think about that?

Cheers.

Yahoo!
Unexpected trip to Tallinn!

If anyone will be in town this Friday afternoon the 8th to Sunday afternoon. please drop me a line to:

[email]WSG@notme.fea.st[/email]

Yes it is a real email address!

Looking for local help

I will be making a big tour around Eastern Europe

planning to stay in any other town that might be worth a visit. I am looking to get in touch with some locals who can also speak English or German, who have good communicative skills trying to make some money or find a new well paid job. Please get in touch with me or perhaps you can give me a referal of someone trustworthy who might be able to help me out in some of those towns finding some young girls, uni students, semi pros etc,
puxilove@hotmail.com

This is not about sex, per se, but important none the less...

When in Tallinn, DO NOT use the Monex group of money exchange offices. They have some sneaky little tricks to fleece the unsuspecting!

1) They advertise that there is no commission and offer, for small transactions a poor exchange rate.
- I can live with this, they have to make money after all!

2) The exchange rate is VERY POOR!

3) They provide the client with a plastic wallet for the money. I noticed that on the exchange rate sign the wallet was advertised as 'sold for 25eek'. When I checked my money and receipt there was no mention of this item, but the cash proffered was 25eek light.
I told the staff that I did not want to buy the wallet and was told that it was 'commission' and no refund would be offered.

You will get a better rate at your hotel than from these shysters, whose normal customers are drunken visitors, who seem not to notice the rip off. Normally I use plastic and one of the ubiquitous ATM machines, with no problems.

So do not use MONEX, easily recognisable by the blue lettering and yellow backgrounds of their signs.

Hi guys!

Summer holidays are over for most of the Finns, time to get back to work.. :)

There was quite nice article about brothels and their owners in local news paper one week ago, I try to get some kind of translation of it here too.

Orginal article can be found from here:

http://www.ekspress.ee/viewdoc/0B5368D921F0BEBCC2256D790053D830

Quite funny detail: comments from "a Finnish specialist", queted in the article are from my post to Sihteeriopisto.net (which was translated to this site too). At least we know now how Estonian newspapers take their material..

Brothels-thing requires one update, prices are now basicly 1200 kr (80 e) now for full hour. Guys at Sihteeriopisto have arranged free ride to most of them, ask for it from kanslisti@sihteeriopisto.net - at least you can save some 500 kr which would go to taxi otherwise.

[quote]3) They provide the client with a plastic wallet for the money. I noticed that on the exchange rate sign the wallet was advertised as 'sold for 25eek'. When I checked my money and receipt there was no mention of this item, but the cash proffered was 25eek light.
I told the staff that I did not want to buy the wallet and was told that it was 'commission' and no refund would be offered.
[/quote]

yeah i was talking to the guy who runs monex a while back. he was telling me that they make 5000 Euro a day during summer from the 'sales' of these plastic wallets. quite amazing really. its just unfortunate that its not the classic mcdonalds upsell, "would you like fries with that", rather, "lets make some money off the unsuspecting tourist"

anyway, shit happens i suppose.

tiger.

I will be in Tallin for a weekend in 2 weeks. Any advise about nice centraly hotels. Any recomendations (location / girls to the room)?

Radisson SAS
Park Consul Schlössle
St Petersbourg

Thanks, posting about my trip will follow.

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There is a surpsingly unknown, cosy, little hotel right in the centre of Tallinn. They do not advertise much, they are not listed in any travel agency brochures. It is my favourite:

http://www.hotelg9.ee/index_fi.php

Hotel G9
Gonsiori Street 9

You can easily find this street in any Tallinn map. It is situated 100 m from what is understood to be the centre of Tallinn: Viru square. The hotel has only 16 rooms. The rates you can find in the webpages. For example single room EEK 500,- / night = EUR 33,-. A bargain !

Reservation by email is convenient and reliable. When you arrive and register yourself you will get a plastic magnetic card to get through the main and dividing doors in the building. Plus of course the key to you own room. Most of the rooms are so situated that when you step in to the hotel floor ( 3rd floor) you do not even have to pass the clerk.

I have several times brough lady visitors for a nice few hours of sex in my room. Girls I know from before, or girls who I order through Tallinns various escort agencies.
No questions asked, most times no one from the hotel staff has even noticed my businesses.
Act like a gentleman, and you are treated as a gentleman.
If you step in singing songs and with a bottle in your hand - and with an unregistered lady in your arms you will be asked questions.

Hi,

I have some general questions that I would be most grateful if someone could help me out with.

- Is it any problems bring back girls to Hotel rooms in the normal hotels? (any extra fee or complications?)

- Is there any good areas where the stripclubs and brothels are within walking distance?

- Is there any places the is good for taking 2 girls?

- What is the normal opening & closing times for these places?

- Which 4 star hotel is located in that area?

- Is there any laid back bars with pool tables around that area?

- Is there any good spa and relax clubs where they also have "normal" massage?

- Is it possible to have good action every day in Tallinn or is it closed some days?

Any info would be great!!

Best Regards

Slacker

Hey fella's I had a great experience with one of the hottest women I have ever found in Estonia. She is an independent. I can tell you first hand that she is everything she is cracked up to be. Her name is Katja and she is from Talinn.

[blue]Hi Noah Chapin,

Please post your email address so these other guys can contact you regarding this chick's contact info.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Hello Noah Chapin.
Very nice picture, could you please send me contact information for my next visit in Tallinn.

Pierre

[blue]I deleted the email address in the above report. The Forum policy regarding the posting of email address is that if a member has information to share with other members, then that forum member must post their email address and invite the interested persons to send an email directly to them.

This policy is necessary because otherwise the Forum will experience a flood of one line "reports" that are nothing more than additional requests for the information along with an email address, all of which do nothing to enhance the value of the Forum. By asking the provider of the information to post their email address, then everyone who is interested in receiving the information can contact the provider of the information without cluttering up the Forum.

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Jackson[/blue]

I confess, I would not mind making her acquaintance. She looks to be 'not young' but certainly very nice. Can you let me know how to contact her her please?

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Noah Chapin,

Please send the contact information. Thanks very much.

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Hello!

Anybody who knows where the girls from Lembitu 14, apartment 33 is now.
I hoped to see a girl Ksenia there, but it was closed. If you know where to find her please tell me.

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I have some bad news fella's! I e-mailed Katja and received a response today from her boyfriend evidently. He threatened me not to call or e-mail her any longer. It looks like this girl is being forced out of the buisness. Evidently he must monitor her e-mail? I called her today and she hung up on me! This is a terrible tragedy. This woman performed the best bbbj I have ever had! I came so hard I was weak in the knee's! What a treasure that girl was. One of the hottest I have ever been with! Well the search will never end! There is something always better out there some where!

Noah, How did you find Katjusha?

I found her throug a friend of mine who goes there 4 or 5 times a year for buisness. He knows the escort scene real well. I went out there with a Russian friend of mine and looked her up. What a real treat! I am glad I got a chance to at least experience her once!

I will be in Tallinn from september 27th, for 2 weeks or less. If someone is there at that time and would like to spend some time trying to pick up regular local girls or semi-pros, I would be glad to join him if he contacts me. I am in my 30's and have already been there a few times. I will rent a furnished apartment. My email is jgabin1@hotmail.com

Have fun !

J Gabin,

I will be in Talinn between 3rd Oct and 10th. We're 4 of us, with the same plan as yours. Regulars as well as pros are our mission. However, since we're first timers to Estonia, we would like your advice. We're thinking of getting a couple apartments in the old city. Shall we book beforehand? Is it easy to get willing girls for us mongers in our mid 20's?

Hi Malter Man

I am not a Tallinn "expert" as some members of this forum are...

You will have some good advices if you browse the reports. I am currently in Tallinn and it's cold here. Had to buy wool gloves! But women are beautiful here whatever the weather.

I think you will find easily some apartments, since there is very few tourists now in Tallinn. Try www.erel.ee

If you are 4, you will have some fun, and you can focus on semi-pros and pros since you are not going to stay for a long time.

Have fun

1st time in tallin, here is my report:

Business was earlier finished than expected, took Chopterline to Tallin, great deal for 39EUR.

I reserved a room in the G9 hotel. I am traveling often for business reason, for me, the hotel is too poor. Great for taking a girl to the room, with the key gard and you can get to your room without passing the lobby. but the standard is low, cheap, thin blanket, no shower gel, etc. location is good, 10 min walk to old town, 5 min to Pronski 7 11, 5-10 minutes to Stockman.

I went out for dinner, was in the Old Estonian, great food, reasonable prices for the quality and service. then during the next couple of hours I checked several places

Molly Malones, only 2 couples and men, no single women, was about 21:00.

Nimega bar, great atmosphere, had several drinks, there were good live music, many young people, serveral girls, but no chance to chat with them. no single girls, most of them in groups of 3 and more. great club, but no luck picking up girls around 23:00.

Nimeta bar, arrived about midnight. I was definitely to old. I am 35 and the average age of the guest were about 20. Really cute, great girls, but most of them knew each other, had a great time of watching them dancing.

Venus club: I arrived about 1am. Great atmosphere, huge disco club, had 2 drinks, a lot of cute young people, specially the girls were sexy dressed, could not find any pros, and it was to loud to chat with the girls. and I am not a disco king, so I left.

Arrived at 2am in the night club of the viru hotel, named Amigo? There I hanged around until 3:30, talked to serval girls, unfortunatly my favourite left with her friends. She was not interessted to meet me again or after the club. For me it was to much, the cute girls were there with there boyfriends, some pros had already their company, so I had my drinks, watching the people, mostly drunken Finnish guys, to bad. Finaly found a nice girl, chatted about 30 min with her, she asked if she can spend the night with me, I agreed, but she was really expensive. puh, 200 EUR for the night, non negotiable. I guess I showed to much interest, but she was the only single girl in the night club, so I decided to take her to the hotel. She was a little surprised about the standard of the G9, I guess normaly she meet men in the Radisson, Schloessle, etc.

In the hotel we took a shower togehter, and had good sex, including kisses, french kiss, covered blow job and sex, sex, sex. after a few hours sleep, she waked me with a kiss, started kissing again, it! I told her that I am to tired, but she continued with a great (covered) blow job and we had sex again.

I slept again a few hours, went shopping, had lunch, and checked the internet cafes in the old town.

Pitstop at Mundi: To small, not good for chatting.

Corner Vene/viru some girls drinking coffee.

Vaera Viru, 2nd floor of bookstore, no girls there.

Vana Viru, coffee shop in the 2nd floor, there were all the time young cuties using the internet, talked to them, but they were not interessted.

Then decided to check apartment. Pronski 7/11 is not far from G9. For you 1st timers, this doesn't meen Pronski 7 and Pronski 11. There is nothing at Pronski 11, just walk to Pronski 7 and ring the bell number 11. There is no name tag, just ring the bell. I went to the appartment and there were 3 girls there. One with blond short hair, curvy, then a cutie with long dark hairs, looking really young, and an little bit older lady. After a short discussion I took 2 girls for 1 hour for 1000 EEK. 1 hour is fine, because it's enough time for sex and a good massage. Do NOT take 2 girls, since they will talk all the time together, instead of focussing to you. the young girl, she mentioned she's 22, long dark hair, real cute was excellent. covered blow job, sex in several positions, and a good massage. The blond girl did only blow job, and fucking was only possible in one position. it was nice to get a blowjob from 2 girls, but I recomend to go to the room with only 1 girl (long dark! hair) for 1 hr and relax.

Then I decided to return to Helsinki and took the last ferry to Helsinki. This was the right decision, since I had the best gfe ever. but see Helsinki topic for more details.

Conclusion: There are a lot of young beautiful women in Tallin, but do not expect to take one to your room. most of the girls are in groups of 2 or more, so it is not easy as a single man. if you don't know anyone, and if you're there only for one or two nights it's hard to find the profs and they are as expensive as in Helsinki.

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Just back from a week in Tallinn.

First of all its pretty quiet at this time of the year. Nightlife is mainly limited to Fridays and Saturdays. Sundays is like a cemetry and Mondays to Wednesdays are little better. Tried Venus, Mr Robinson, and Cafe Amigo at Viru Hotel. Nimega and Nimeta were empty, didn't even go in. Locals suggested Terranium during the week. They said it's near the port but didn't manage to find it. Venus was cool.

Plenty of beautiful chicks in Estonia, it's the land of wonder women. But no luck with one-night stands. In fact it's not that easy to take regulars to bed. I feel that they need some time to get to know you well first.

Semi-pros and pros in night-clubs are not evident and I didn't find any. Street walkers are limited to the park beside Viru Hotel and the young ones demanded 1000EEK for the hour, 2000EEK for the night (too expensive). There were a couple of old ones too (no idea about price).

Finally I stumbled apon Tuukri 26. Kind of decent style brothel. 50EEK entrance fee, 600EEK for the hour. However girl at reception can be pretty hostile. She asked a couple of Norwegian 50yr olds for 2000EEK for the hour and refused to put down the price. At he end they left with 50EEK entrance fee less in their wallet. Beautiful girls, service depends on individual girl. Nice rooms with TV and ensuite. I recommend a girl who calls herself Marina. Will post her photo later in the photo section. Voluptous boobs, beautiful legs, and nice blue eyes. Great in bed too. Kissed all the time, bbj w/o condom and rode me like crazy. Seemed to enjoy it and asked me to come back the day after. The girls will try to take you to the bar first, but evade that. They will take a champagne which will cost you a further steep 600EEK.

I even tried Parnu Mnt 48/25. Go to building 48 on Parnu Manta and ring doorbell no 25. A woman's voice will answer (the mamasan). You needn't answer back, she will just open the main door from upstairs. Go up to door 25 and she will open the door for you. Warm woman, the mamasan, she will invite you into the sitting room and available girls will come so that you make your choice. Usually young russian girls, who barely speak english. Chances are that there will be one or two girls only. Room is quite simple, with double mattress on the floor, but neatly and romantically decorated and soft music. Tried a skinny girl with the name of Katya for one hour. Great service. After I came she started all over again. Kissed, bbj with cover on and fs in different positions. Price is 350EEK for half hour, 500EEK for the hour.

Finally got a couple of dates with regulars. Warm friendly people but one week is too short to take a girl to bed in Tallinn. Some girls in nightclubs are not so nice and are after drinks.

Now I must make some recommendations for places to eat. Baar Tallinn on Narva Mnt, is a cosy place, good food and reasonable prices. Service is friendly and had a date with one of the waitresses.

The only place to find food early in the morning - after 2am is a kiosk on Tuukri str, 100m away from Tuukri Nightclub/hostel (brothel). The girls working the kiosk are far from friendly, and the quality of food leaves much to be desired, considering it is not cheap at all, but it's the only place where you can find anything to eat at that time.

Internet cafes are a rare sight in Tallinn.

I am sorry that some guys seem to have been missing something...

There are loads of women, it is true to say that it can be difficult to separate the civulians and professionals in the clubs, but that is why I treat them all the same and see where it goes.
I am not into brothels at all.

I have never pulled from Venus, but it is a good place to go with a friend, male or female. Amigo and Bonnie and Clyde have many women available, but you have to approach them. As is always the case, the ones that approach you will be hard core and expensive. I treat it as dating, the Russians call it IIRC 'assisted dating' and it is not expensive.

On my last trip over I met up with a very lovely girl who I will be seeing again. She is a dancer, we had no opportunity to get it on as I was riding shotgun of several other guys on their first visit. Best thing is to give the impression that you are staying for some time, or coming back regularly, that way the ordinary girls and the part-timers will give you a good time. They know that Pekka Suomalainen comes at the weekend for a shag and goes home on Sunday afternoon, they dont want to give it up for that kind of relationship, they might as well charge as give it away free...
Treat em nice and have a great time!

Malter Man wrote at the end of his posting: "Internet cafes are a rare sight in Tallinn". May be so but there are a few. I have 2 hints for those interested:

Kaubamaja department store in the very center of the city, opposite Viru hotel. On the top floor there is a quiet internet café. About 8 terminals, seldom have I seen all being occupied. Kaubamaja is open Mon-Sat 09.00 – 21.00 Sun 10.00. – 19.00.

Coca Cola Plaza, bottom floor, game hall. Walk downstairs behind the cinema ticket counters. All terminals can be used for game or internet purposes. Number of terminals about 30. Far better computers and much more ergonomical in use than those at Kaubamaja. Open every day 10.00 – 22.45. My favourite.

Price level? If my memory serves me correctly 1 hour at CC Plaza Game Plaza costs EEK 30. Very reasonable for western tourists in any case.

Actually there are quite a few, I should have chimed in...
So, also:
Apollo bookshop at the bottom of Viru Street
F1 Cafe, next to Molly Malones
Viru Hotel and Express hotel, in fact most decent hotels have computers for their guests.

Outside of the old town there is one near the National library, essentially for locals and all in Estonian/Russian, good becasue I cant remember the address for that one either.

There is one around the corner from Robinson, can't remember the address. Usually they are not huge places, but sufficient.

Hey guys,

Have been reading the Tallinn posts with some interest. I'm interested in going for a few days (a few months as the girls will be advised).

I'm quite keen to go when there are plenty scandanavian girls (Finns and Swedes) there on vacation.

Can anyone advise when the best time to go would be - May 04?

Does anyone have any info on how easy to score with the scandy girls?

Cheers

Doggus,

I havn't met any Scandy girls on vacation this october in Tallinn. But I beleive there will be lots in the summer months. I was told by locals that the areas around the beaches are full of life in summer.

This leads me to a question? Has anyone ever stumbled on a certain "Terranium" nightclub or disco close to Sadam Port? Lots of locals mentioned it, but I never had any luck in finding it.

Malter Man,

I didn't try Terrarium (not Terranium) Night Club, since it's not located very close of the Old Town where I stay when I go there.

I was told by locals that it's a new one (about 2 years old).

You can check its web site at www.terrarium.ee. It's in Estonian, but you can find easily the map and...some cuties' pictures (don't know if indeed, they will be there when you go next time to the Club ;-) )

Doggus,

I don't really understand why you are interested in scandy girls in Tallinn ? You know, most of estonian girls look exactly like them. Estonian people would explain you that they are scandinavian indeed.

In these Tallinn and other WSG city pages positive paid sex experiences have quite rightly got the main attention of most writers and readers. Not to forget the darker side let me tell you of 2 negative experiences of mine.

Nurga Bar, situated in the corner of the streets Liivalaia and Tartu Maantie in the centre of Tallinn. If you stand in front of the department store Stockmann main entrance on Liivalaia and look left to the opposite side of the street you cannot see the bar itself yet but you can see the sign leading there. The bar is very near from there, 50 meters or so. There have been reports in WSG Forum about this place, dating back months ago.

This is a small bar/pub plus they have a sauna with a dressing room available. I visited the place in September 2002. I knew the sauna department's main purpose: for clients to have sex with a lady. The bar staff will order the girl. The staff speak best Russian, a little English too. They will phone to one of Tallinn’s many escort agencies to order a girl, all this very swift and efficient. Delivery in less than 30 minutes most times. Cost to the client: EEK 600,- or EEK 700,- per hour. EEK 600,- is the normal one – the extra applies if the client does not know the price level and does not argue Fair business. I do not think the price has gone up since then. As regular Tallinn sex holiday makers know the escort agency debiting at the moment is EEK 300,- / hour for any client. A mere USD 23,- which many of my friends have hard to believe. So the difference EEK 300,- or 400,- is the bar's profit. By the way: towels are given for extra charge only.

I paid the EEK 600,- , ordered a beer and sat down to wait. After 20 minutes an agency chauffor and the girl walked in. Okey, fine, I offered the lady a drink, she accepted lemonade and into the sauna compartment we went. I could see that the girl had a terrible hangover which she admitted. She did not look too bad. She said she is 23, looked to me at least 28, not a surprising thing in this business. When she had first walked in the bar she had looked a bit expressionless but not showing a bad mood. This she did show me in the sauna compartment where we sat down to talk and get ready for the action. We had one hour time, I could see that she tried to minimize the sex part time of it. Talking this and that, vainly asking me questions. How very humiliating: she took hold of my penis like of a piece of sausage, not looking at, just pulling back and forth, with a fed up expression on her face. She all this time did not look me in the eye.

I was like a dead object to her... I felt like a fool the whole time , there was no joy, no pleasure there. Anyhow I miraculously did get an erection, did have an intercourse with her. As well I could have told her: sorry, something is not right, let´s stop and put our clothes back on and just talk the rest of the time. I felt sorry for myself, I felt sorry for the girl.

This July I was staying in a hotel in Tallinn and decided to order a girl to be chauffored to me for 2 hours. I chose a number that has been mentioned earlier in these pages too: +372 53 928708.

I think they advertise themselves as "Laguna" in the sex journal Maaja. All was very simple: I phoned the number in my mobil phone, talked to the lady in Russian which I moderately command. She said yes, they have girls available at the moment. Is it OK after 45 minutes at my hotel ? I said yes but please bring several girls for me to choose from. She said OK, will do.

The lady phoned back at the appointed time and said they are 10 minutes late. No problem about that. I met the car in front of the hotel. A small passenger car, male driver who does the money collecting and 4 girls. They sat expressionless in the car while I made my choice. No stunners, no monsters. I made a quick choice: a girl with strangely white coloured hair, with a bit hoarse voice. Age ? My guess was 28 but she actually was 21. Sveta was the name, short for Svetlana. Not a good choice. She turned out to be shy of her body. If you readers have been with her this must sound familiar: she does not want to be naked in a lighted room. As it was summer afternoon she insisted on putting a blanket to cover the window... Okay, that gave some kind of darkness but she was all the more shy. She did not have a good body, she was not good to have sex with.

A previous customer had fucked her too hard she said, I was not allowed to move as freely as I would have liked. You know what I mean: I was definitely not having a good time. And she told me something I did not necessarily need to know: she is doing this job against her own will. Earlier she had fallen in love with a boy and tried to get out of this all. But no: she would have had to pay an enormous fine to her boss to do that. So she is forced to continue. Was she making this up ? Trying to get some extra money from me ? I think she was telling me the truth. I felt like shit after this sad encounter.

Musketeer:

What you describe is the dark side of our "hobby." The global sex trade is enormously profitable and the women are ferociously exploited.

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It ain't pretty.

Terrarium is perhaps 10 minutes walk, at most from the centre of the old town, it takes less time to get there than going to Bonnie and Clyde and only a couple of minutes longer than Amigo.

You should go. If you take a taxi, you should not pay more than 35EEk to get there from the edge of the old town, or the rest of the centre. Taxis in the old town are more expensive, they need a special permit to be there.

I have wriiten before about the seamy side of prostitution in Estonia. It plays, I think, only a very small part. I am not entirely sure I believe the girl's story, but perhaps it is true. I am sure though that it is a very small minority. The reason is that it is too easy for a girl who wants to rent herself out to do so, safely and easily. In all honesty, the girls most likely to be under any kind of pressure are likley to be those who are unnatractive, but who still want to work, those who have to settle for a bad deal to do what they want to do. I seriously doubt that any 'pressed labour' would be a local girl.
WHy do I say this?

In Estonia, there is no need to have a pimp, the girls in the bars such as B&C, Amigo, generally work on their own. There are some men and women who have a stable, I have seen at least one such in B&C. The girls keep at least half the money they make, plus any tips. In return they get physical security and introductions to relatively wealthy men. Not a bad deal frankly! The brothels, generally are clean and safe and again the girls get about half of the money after taxi drivers commissions, again not a bad deal. The girls working with taxi drivers and delivery services are often students or similar, they work the hours they want and seem free to make 'private' appointments. The girls doing this, relish the discretion and ease of the business.

There is only one bar, which I still work to get to the bottom of, that is a little different. Mr Robinson. Here it seems to me, many of the girls are working, but not in the bar. They are waiting for calls to go to work with the taxi drivers etc. These girls have pimps, but do not work with the club. The club gas its won contacts for this. I do not understand the separation but that seems to be how it is.

So. on the whole things are not too bad. I would always avoid the lowest price places, these are where you are likely to find the 'pressed labour', not from the girls charging sensible money.

Musketeer, I am sorry to hear of your bad experiences. You exemplify why I choose not to use brothels and especially not cheap ones. I think that you were unlucky with girls who did not want to work.

I know that in Saint Pete the forced labour with pimps forcing girls to pay for future earnings happens. It is one reason why girls go to Finland from SPb. I have never heard of it in Estonia.

If you want attractive, willing girls just go to Leesika, Club Max or Morgan. There are others, but I know these places and/or girls who work there. The girls may dislike the work, because it is boring fucking fat guys who are drunk, but usually they are able to convince the client that theyare having a good time. I guess they might given that they are earning from one client in one hour about 10-15% of the average monthly wage, excluding tips and drinks...

Not bad money for many!

On the other hand, if you brush up your relationship skills, pulling a nice looking girl for a few drinks and a bit of chat is both easy and fun. For me, the rental option is only ever used if all else fails...

dusty_bin,

once i went to mr. robinson, this summer. the ugly men who takes the coats insisted to show me some girls working in the sauna. i wasn't interested because there was much more available and for free in the dance floor. eventually the third time he asked i agreed to have a look at them. he said they were busy at that moment and that in 20 minutes everything would be ready for me. after a while he came to pick me up in the dance floor (i was really ashamed since everybody understood what was going on...) and upstair we went. in a small room there were 3 (probably) **** girls, small and bad dressed, smoking and tired. i cannot even rate them. i spoke to the man and said i was disgusted and not interested. he said that there would not be another round of girls, that i had to choose from them... of course i explained him that he should not even try to speak to me in that way and went downstairs. he then tried to take from me some money for their taxi (fool man!). the day after i saw two of the girls in a pub close to nimega, with two young english guys, when they saw me they avoided any eye contact and soon went out of the pub. i think they are semi pro or something like that, maybe they work really seldom, when they run out of money. they shouldn't be always available or linked with an agency.

A friend of mine appears to have got the best of the system at Robinson. The first time, he tipped the guy a couple of dollars and specified that the girl should be young, tall and blonde and that he would not be proceeding unless she was as specified. A few minutes of waiting in the sauna lounge and a girl exactly as specified was produced. He stumped up for the sauna, 400EEK and scarpered for three hours with the girl in his apartment for 300EEEK per hour. When I was with him more recently, he managed a similar feat, althugh this time the combo, whilst legal was a little more outre, but similarly inexpensive, this time I saw the result and aprove! It seems that approached carefully, Robinson may provide unexpected value, particularly if the deliverer is handled with discretion. Still no good to me as I prefer hunting in the wild to tethered game!

Tere guys!

I signed up months ago but had problems posting so this is a little delayed. This site is an incredible find! Based partly on this and partly on hearing from friends / tv / travel guides that Tallinn was a great place to go, I decided to slope off there over the August Bank Holiday, via Finland (I used Air Miles but they didn't fly to Estonia so I took this route - good fun ferrying it across the Baltic with the Finns). Rented an apartment right in the old town, then hit the streets.

Man, the girls here are fit! They're either Estonian birds, with that blond haired blue eyed Scandinavian look, or they have that dark haired, green-eyed smouldering look that Russian babes tend to have. I go regularly to France and Spain, have been to Prague, went to college in the States - but I have to say I have never seen such a concentration of babes in such a small area.

I would really love to try and pull (a normal girl) in this town and I think it is possible - the Estonians, guys or girls, are generally quite friendly, I found. However, as many posters here have noted, I think you do have to be here a while, you can't just breeze into town and expect a shag; they've had Finns coming over for a decade so they've wised up to what weekend visitors are after.

Anyway, met a couple of Brits in the pub, went out with them Friday and Saturday night, did promise myself I would leave the obligatory visit to the brothel till the end, after having exhausted all other possibilities. There was a barmaid in one of the Irish bars who was flirting, but she did have a boyfriend; maybe if I had more time.

Basically, got hammered with these guys, chatted with Estonians (who speak bloody good English) chatted with some Russians (oddly enough, in Spanish, they didn't speak any English - is Spanish a popular second language among Russians?). The gist of it was that Sunday came, the Brits I'd met went home, and Sunday in Tallinn is dead. The only place I was recommended to go was Amigos, in hotel Viru. All the reports are true, it was heaving! Met some Italian guy, chatted and started talking to a couple of Russian/Estonian girls who seemed quite normal, they weren't dressed slutty or anything. So it was a surprise after an hour and some drinks that they turned around and said, "So, guys, what happens now?" I said something about coming back to the apartment, and she came out with "That will be 100 Euros for an hour". I was floored! Of course I've seen hookers before, but these girls looked so normal, so... I don't know, wholesome.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I thought 100 Euros is a little high, this is still Eastern Europe although it's changing rapidly, and while they were pretty they weren't of a standard I haven't pulled before (maybe not often, but occasionally). Thinking about it later, I realised that there were so many of these businessman types in the place who would pay a 100 Euro w/o blinking, it made sense. So, yeah, guys, don't go spoiling them, it does affect prices for future customers. Anway, we gave it a miss, and proceeded to drink till closing.

After the Italian guy and I said bye, I suddenly realised it was 4 in the morning and it was my third night in Tallinn and I hadn't got shagged. WTF to do? Grabbed a cab and explained, "I want nice girls". No problem! Took me off to Morgans. Once inside, they had to wake up one of the girls, and she came out looking sulky. Had a couple of drinks with her - this is one thing I quite like, you can relax with the girl, decide if you want to do the deed with her. She was from Rostov in Russia, so were her friends, they get visas to come over, make some money, and then head back to their "normal" lives. Anyway, she was 25, tall - well, my height, I'm a short-arse for a guy. Good English, had good fun chatting with her and her friend. The burly Russian bouncer just stood at the bar and glowered, but I reckon these places are fine if you've got the money and you cause no problems.

Anyway, when it was time to go to the room, she talked me into taking 4 hours instead of 1. This is about 80 Euros X 4 = 320. Expensive, right? Fair enough, but this was my third night, I was on holiday and I still had a lot of unspent money burning a hole in my pocket; and it meant I could have a few sessions without worrying about the time. Best of all, in Morgans, if you pay for 4 hours - you get 10!!! I've looked through all the posts and I found nothing about this. Info, guys, info, I'm a newbie and already I'm contributing!

Anyway, went to the room, and because we had 10 hours, there was no rush, listened to music ("RRRah-dio Russka"), drank wine, chatted. Eventually got to the shag. I was pretty drunk, but i do remember we progressed to it slowly, more naturally than the girl putting her hands on her hips and barking, "So, we fuck now?" It was great. I sweettalked her into a BBBJ - I think the fact that I had been buying her drinks and that I had taken her for 10 hours helped a lot. Nice blowjob, kept running my hands through her long dark hair, feeling that fucking lovely body. Lunched under the yew tree (thought I'd come up with a new euphemism). Finally, time to put on the condom, shagged her in various positions before climbing off. Asked her if she would let me CIM. She refused. Bit hazy what I said, but finally she agreed, on condition of "buy me present". So, lay back, she stripped off the condom and proceeded to quite a sweet gentle blowjob, until finally I came in her mouth. She didn't swallow, but did keep my dick in her mouth, before scrambling off the bed to the sink and grabbing some tissue. Fuck her, girls have done that to me for free and LIKED it.

Anyway, fell into a drunken sleep, woke up on the Monday morning, had another couple of shags. Weird to be in a *****house in the morning, hearing the cleaner vacuuming outside. Fucked her once with the condom, and then after a bit more of a snooze another fuck, again finishing with BBBJ and CIM.

Then it was time to go for her present. We both had showers together, she soaped me down, lent me some toothpaste - fucking surreal! brushing my teeth with my fingers in the toilet of a *****house. As we were dressing we chatted and I think I got an inkling why I got pretty good treatment. She said things like "You are nice, you are clean..." She remarked (and guys, this is what SHE said, no offence intended from me) on how many Finns were tight with the money, and that Italians were even worse, counting out the pennies. So, I think all in all, screwing and blowing a reasonably okay looking thirty-five year old, not sweaty and drunken, clean and with a good attitude, was not the worst thing in the world for her. When she started saying things like "You are sexy" I took it with a grain of salt, though (but it still gives me a hard-on thinking about hearing in with that sexy Russian accent).

Anyway, we went to lunch, jesus the girl could eat for someone so slim - I still felt groggy from the night before and couldn't even finish. After that, took her to Stockmann, bought her a pair of shoes (Fuck, Stockmann is not cheap is it!) Spoiling her? Maybe, but I had had a really nice time with her, she was intelligent and funny, she spoke excellent English, and she had BBBJ'd me and let me come in her mouth twice. I've had entire relationships where that never happened.

After the shoes, we went and had coffee, and then i thought, fuck it, told her I would go back with her for another session. She was really pleased, went back, had another hour, another BBBJ, CIM, finishing up with a shower. At the end as I was leaving, I gave her 500 EEK tip, and her face just lit up like a child's and she jumped on me to hug me, going "you are nice, you are nice". (Okay, okay, I'm a mug, but if a working girl treats me nice, I'll treat her nice, there's enough cold fish out there we're sure to encounter).
Anyway, we exchanged e-mails, then I left, toured the town a bit; went out drinking that night some, but being Monday night, everything was quiet (even Amigos).

Next day I had till 4 for my ferry so, more out of curiosity than anything else, found the infamous Pronski 7-11 - now it's with this kind of establishment that WSG really proves its worth, no cab driver is ever going to take you to places like this.

Boy, it's a dodgy looking block of flats, really grotty. I walked up and down a few times, went into a bar and had a drink, before I got the nerve to ring the bell. Kept thinking some old lady would answer in Estonian. Instead, got buzzed in, and headed upstairs. 3 girls, okay quality, 2 of them just leaving. One of the ones leaving was quite do-able - not beautiful, but something dirty and cheap about her. Only 1 girl left, but WTF, for about 30 Euros on a Monday afternoon, what can you expect. She was an Estonian Russian student, going to University (did you know 1 year's fees in Estonia is equal to a year's fees in the UK? Christ that's harsh, considering their average wage!). Anyway, BJ with condom, shag for a while, but continuous drinking and fucking with the other girl had done me in, not much happening. Tried for a BBBJ but she was having none of it. Finished me off with a decent covered blowjob, gave her a couple of hundred EEK I still had on me as I wouldn't bother changing it back in Finland - plus I have a soft spot for working students, even if they're whoring - I used to wait tables at an all night diner when I was in Uni.

Interesting thing, she didn't seemed surprised that I had found the place. Apparently she was aware that the place was well known on the "In-tar-net". These places OWE the WSG!!

After a quick shower, back to the apartment, grabbed my stuff and off to the ports with very fond memories of Talinn. Such great memories that I returned a couple of months later with a mate, but that's another story!

Art,

Great Report, learned a lot about Tallin, learned a new Euphamism (which I will never ever use), and found out that you have yummy cum:^)

But seriously the report is great to read, I think the price you paid at Morgans was high compared to what I remember paying in tallin, but it seems you had your fun.

Peter

Actually, I think that what I paid at Morgan's was the going rate; the second time I went to Tallinn I went to Club 102 and it was around the same. YES, you can get it cheaper - places like Pronski 7/11 prove that, but there is less of a conveyer belt quality in places like Morgans. Actually, I just got off the phone with the girl from Morgans before I logged in. She'd given me her no. in Russia and after staggering home from an office Xmas party, thought I'd give her a call. The booze talking again! She was pleasantly surprised to hear from me. Trying to talk her into another trip to Tallinn, would be nice to spend a weekend there with a nice dyevushka at your beck and call. She sounded very doubtful (she's helping her mum out financially, etc - i think we often forget what a tough background a lot of these girls come from).

As far as price, I think the trick is finding your optimum level - yes, for 10 or 20 quid you can find a straight, mechanical shag, or for 40 or 50 you can find a nice fuck with a lovely girl - and bear in mind the same experience in London would be at least twice that. Having said that, Peter, if you have some tips for a cheaper time just as nice, I'm all ears!

Art,

Check out the German FKK section. In my opinion there is no comparable place in terms of price quality and comfort within europe tio the German FKK scen. There are some cheap flights from London to either Frankfurt or Düsseldorf, and a bunch of very nice clubs. I had been to Lily's in Tallin and remember paying 800 EEK's for an hour there, don't remember the exchange rate, but I think it was well under 50€.

In Germany 50€ for half an hour with DFK, BBBJ and covered sex is the normal price range, and that in as civilized and clean a place as germany.

Peter

Peter,

I've read a lot of posts about the FKK clubs on these boards and i must say I am curious. I know it's quite cheap to go to Frankfurt, I got a Ryanair flight there a few years ago for £1 + tax! But it seems a lot of these clubs are quite a bit out of town and tricky to find. Is it quite expensive to take taxis to these places?

The thing is, I also go to Tallinn because I can go drinking and eat lovely food at cheap prices. You can't spend 24 hours shagging nonstop! And I believe Germany is comparable in price to the UK, so outside of the FKK clubs it seems like costs could quickly pile up!

When I was in Frankfurt, I found some building near the train station where you walked in and there was different levels with rooms, each with a hooker inside, you went in and paid something like 20 Euros and got 20 minutes. Had a really crap experience with some South American girl who started screaming in anger because I didn't come in 5 minutes. In the end I just rolled off and left, I can't function under that pressure. But seeing how men were going in and out of the building nonstop as if it were a factory, I can understand how soul-destroying it must be, to have a different stranger come in every 20 minutes and use you like a piece of meat, so I don't really think of that girl with anger. I prefer the Morgans/Club 102 scenario where you can at least relax and establish a bit of human contact with the girls before going straight to the sex. It's more relaxing for you and I think it makes the girls a little bit more relaxed about their job, less like a piece of meat. They are human beings too!

Regds

Art

OK, about my 2nd trip to Tallinn.

Had such a great time convinced a mate to go along. This time, flew directly to Tallinn on a Friday night. For any Europeans who are familiar with Easy Jet and its owner Stelios, the Easy Jet desk was next to Estonian Air, and Stelios, the owner himself, was checking in for a flight to Athens, just like a normal bloke! The stag party ahead of us in the check-in queue heckled him goodnaturedly, and the mood of everyone in the Tallinn queue was good.

After 2 and a half hour flight, arrived in Tallin. Airport's okay, although small. It's only 3 km from town though, which is a plus.

Again, rented a flat in the Old Town from the same company. (Red Group, they're called, and they have a website, can't remember exactly but if you google Red Group Tallinn you should be ok. Good rates, nice flats. If you go through Virtual Tourist.com, there's an ad for Red Group which includes a 10% off coupon).

Anyway, we hit the ground running. Arriving at the flat by midnight, we straight away went out to the bars and clubs. I enjoyed it a lot more cos I've been here before and Tallinn is so small it quickly becomes familiar. My friend basically kept staring with awe at 1 girl after another, but unfortunately, he also hammered back 1 double JD and coke after another. Problem is, the guy works 70 hrs a week, including weekends, so when he goes on holiday, he larges it to the point he's sliding off barstools. Which is exactly what happened, by 3 I had to get in a cab with him and get him back to the flat. When the cab door opened he fell out onto the street like a sack of shit! It was a hell of a job getting him back up the 6 floors, even with a fully operational lift.

So he's passed out on the sofa and I'm pissed off because it's only 3, but I don't fancy clubbing alone at this time of night. So - downstairs, hailed a cab, and off to Club 102, which I was curious about after reading various descriptions from posters here. Boy, this place is really out in the boondocks, isn't it? Driving into the woods at night like that, you think you're in Stephen King country. I said that to the cab driver, who laughed and said in his thick accent that in fact he had a Stephen King novel in his glove compartment. "Toh-me-nokers!"

Club 102 is in a house with this big gate, very innocuous out there in suburbia. You go in and as somebody else here said, you're met by big Russian types who look menacing but are perfectly cordial. You hang out at the bar, have a few drinks, there's girls milling around, some dancing topless on a stage set up for that purpose. This was a Friday night and there were maybe 10 to 15 girls. Better selection than Morgans; most of the girls looked quite young, as opposed to hardened hookers. Sat with 3, buying drinks and having a laugh for a while - I really love this aspect of the establishments in Estonia, that you can just hang out with the girls, no rush.

The girls were Estonian Russians, as opposed to Morgans where the girls were actually from the Motherland. One thing I have to say about russian SWs, they're either natural hostesses, or they're incredibly easy going. Even taking the sex out of the equation, I had a really cool relaxing time drinking with them. We had quite a lot of laughs. One of the girls had studied spanish so we were talking our Spanish-as-a-second-language to each other. I had already picked a 19 year old blonde, but as the spanish-speaking one left to dance, she said to me in spanish something about liking me and hoping we could have a good time some time. Wish I'd picked her first, but what the hell. She was dark-haired and last time I was in Est. that's what I'd had. This time I wanted a blond-haired blue eyed girl.

The cost, by the way, was about the same as Morgans, about 1200 EEK for an hour, I think about 70 Euro? Whatever, it sounds less in Pounds (50)!

She had a lovely body, this girl, and we had sex in various positions, but everything w/ condom. I did try to get a blowjob without the condom, but she was having none of it. She had mentioned a boyfriend, I get the feeling she would fuck and do whatever, but doing anything without the rubber was in her mind truly cheating. I don't know, I'm only speculating, but she seemed pretty resolute, but it could be purely on health grounds.

Unfortunately, my friend was not the only one who had drunk too much and I to my chagrin, suffered whisky dick, ie as hard as I was, I just couldn't get to that orgasm point. Maybe the disappointment of not getting BBBJ did it, I don't know. Anyway, no problem, zipped up. Gave her 100 EEK, she didn't seem to be pissed off. I thought it was fair, I hadn't come, no BBBJ, and I HAD bought a few drinks for them earlier. She was nice, she sat with me while I waited for the cab the manager called.

Went home and crashed like a dead man, got up around 2 on Saturday afternoon ready for another round...

Art,

The Eros Centers around the rain stations are horrible places and I hardly know anyone who has ever had a decent experience there. I say FKK's specifically because the atmosphere there is very good. At most there is food and drink included int eh entry price. Interpersonal relations have never been a problem there for me either. Depending on where in the UK you are from the cost of food and drink in Germany might be the same or lower. If you are from London the costs are definitely lower. Not like Tallin, though.

Tallin is quite nice, I really like the time I spent there. Jsut that the whole pay for play set up in Germany is better than in Tallin, and based on the country standards quite reasonable.

Peter

Art, I can vouch for the effectiveness of the interent anfd WSG.

A friend of mine used to work at Morgan. I wrote on this board, singing her praises. She did not know I had done it; later I told her and she told me that after my mention on this site, business at Morgan had gone up significantly. During this period, she managed her business record... Seven guys in one night!

(Any wonder that I prefer to find girls in clubs!)

BTW for $320 I am not surprised she liked you, she would have taken out about $160 for that and probably not bothered to go back to work for a couple of days. OTOH you could have had a Goddess for the night for less. If you go back, try Bonny and Clyde and look for the best looking girls and play it large!

OK, gents... for starters, I would like to reprint my report on Tallinn I had posted on WSA earlier.

In general, I DO NOT recommend Tallinn. It does not possess premium talent, and neither does it have girls with a good attitude. It is possible I have become another victim of the world-famous calena bug, you know what they say - the only cure for a calena is another calena. Curacao has ruined almost every European location for me. So, here goes, read and weep.

Tallinn Update by Tbird or ¿Dónde están las chicas colombianas?

I just returned from Estonia, and would like to give everyone an update. I realize that I myself have posted a number of good reviews about Tallinn in the past, yet was noticing changes for the worse in some of the later postings. Unfortuantely, the place has deteriorated a lot, and I can no longer recommend it as a prime monger spot - not even a good value spot.

It is possible that I have been hopelessly spoiled by the Colombian chicas on Curacao. Maybe I have set up my standards too high.This
time around my main irritant was the girls' attitude.

Even in the more expensive clubs, such as Morgan, Max, and Golden (and prices have gone up to 1200 ...1500 EEK) the girls do not even try to suppress their general disgust at their line of business. At Golden Club I was amazed to see a dozen girls sitting on the couch, staring blankly into space, and not even trying to attract a client.

Most of the girls do not speak English. Or any other foreign language except for a smattering of Finnish. I speak Russian so it is not a problem for me, but it is a problem for the girls. How many clients do they lose? Not everyone is a drunk Finn who just wants to blow his wad and continue getting even drunker.

Overall the quality of the girls has gone down, down, down. I did not see ONE really beautiful girl. Very few girls would even qualify as cute. Most of them are just plain average.

I did have a positive experience, though. On my first day the cabbie took me to Morgan. This is the most conveniently located club since you do not really need a taxi to get there, it is 15 minutes walk from downtown at Virmalise 28/30. I was there on a Thursday night and there were perhaps 6 girls. No 9s or 10s, one girl possibly an 8. Turned out she was just the stripper, and did not provide any services.

I started talking to this girl named Tanya, and we went to a room. The cost for the hour was 1500 EEK. It was pleasant enough. After i got dressed I went back into the main area, and realized there was nobody there I wanted to talk to. The girls were busily discussing all kinds of everyday problems, heating bills, children's grades at school, etc. Now, I am not saying I was immediately ready for round , but they did not even make an attempt to attract my attention.

I am not an ugly guy, I treat the girls with respect, do not argue over a couple of dollars, and was really astonished by such attitude. So I sat down, got myself a Scotch, and Tanya reappeared. We started talking again, and decided that round 2 was in order.

In fact, it turned out to be round 2, and 3, and 4. I suggested that she relax, not worry about the time, and try to enjoy herself. She was very surprised by this, and twice asked me if I really wanted this. I assured her I did. So, after some heavy 4-play we settled into a spooning position, and she played with her clit while I slowly moved into her. It took a while but she did climax. That was a great feeling.

On Friday I met with Jupiter7 and we went to the club again. The club was full of drunk Finns.Some of them were so drunk they were asleep. The cycle would repeat itself throughout the evening: the Finns would roll in, get drunk, and leave. Again, the girls were very apathetic.I had another session with Tanya, and then we decided to call it quits for the night.

We had also visited a strip bar. I generally suggest to everyone that strip joints in Tallinn are not worth it. The girls do not do much, just swirl around the pole a couple of times, and then come around bugging you for tips and trying to get you to buy a private show. I was told there is very little difference between the strip joints.

Next day I met up with Jupiter7 and we ran out to Max and Golden. Club Max was virtually empty, and the girls were unattractive. There were maybe 4 of them, one kinda looked like a semi-cute freshman at a college stateside, the others were just ugly. We had a drink, and left. The taxi driver took us to Golden, which is generally in the middle of nowhere, a rather big house in a wooded area in the suburbs.

There I decided to play the role of "Un gringo muy estupido" and did not reveal that I understood Russian, I witnessed a scene where a Finnish man was obviously too drunk to actually ask a girl to go upstairs with him, and kept staring at her. She finally got up and yelled at him in Russian" What;s wrong with you, you m....f? If you want to f... just say so. Don't stand there like an idiot". The Finn understood absolutely nothing, the other girls laughed...

The next day I asked a guy who runs a strip club about the changes in the sex business. He told me that generally the more attractive girls had moved on to work abroad, in Finland or Germany or wherever else they could find better paid employment.

In conclusion, would I go back? Definitely not. It has become overpriced, the attitude sucks, the quality is down... if that's what you want why even leave the USA?

In my opinion, the FKK clubs in Germany, or clubs like the Sakura in Zurich represent a better value. Or better yet, go to Curacao. Or Colombia.

Hopefully my short report will save some fellow mongers a few hard-earned dollars, euros, pounds or whatever you carry.

To Dusty Bin:

You are probably right, for that amount of money I could have had better, but she was a pretty girl, she spoke good English, she was fun to hang out with, and I love the CIMs she does, progessing from grabbing a tissue the first couple of times back in August, to swallowing on the second visit in October. I guess I was going for the known quantity. I quite liked her dry humour, I told her I had had some work done on my house and would be throwing a party, and she responded in that dry Russian accent, "For this, people in your country have party?". It cracked me up.

Also, both times I have ended up in Morgans it's been at the end of the night, so the number of drinks consumed at that point is inversely proportional to your sensibleness.
But I will take your advice on board and head for B&C next time, heard and read a lot about it, but somehow never got the chance to go both times I visited.

Sorry, just realised reading my last post I mentioned the girl I got in August and October. Yes, on my second trip I did go back to Morgans and the same girl was there, and I did pick her, again for the night, again for the same price, and I know I was a sucker, but the fucks were even better, and this time when she did BBBJ and CIM, she swallowed and kept going, which I absolutely love. Strange how these girls follow the same patterns as "normal" girls, if they know you and are comfortable with you they will progress to doing the "special things".

I took my mate this time and I wasn't expecting to see this girl, thinking she had gone back to russia, but as it happened she had just renewed her visa and was there at the time I turned up. She and another girl who I had met 2 months previously waved to me and my mate cracked up, "We go into a *****house and they KNOW you!!! You dirty bastard!" For some reason people assume I'm quite a clean-living person and are shocked when they discover otherwise.

I'm quite surprised by what Tbird is saying, because generally most of the girls I've met in Tallinn spoke English to an acceptable degree and I usually had good fun with them, but then maybe I've been lucky.

Just came back from Portugal and had good service, but from a couple of absolute HOWLERS, I'm still shuddering at my lack of self-respect. It's in the Lisbon section, but I will say, compared to how low-key it was there, I think Tallinn's an absolute paradise.

Just for the record...

Security at Bonny and Clyde appears to have changed with the result that some of the old faces have gone...

OTOH it is still a great visit, perhaps better as the women there are more likely to be receptive civilians. At least that's what I have found...

Hi all,

I'll be traveling to Estonia the first couple weeks in February. I'm looking to sample some sights and sounds in Tallinn but only have two nights to do so. So far on my list of stops is Bonnie & Clyde, Mr. Robinson, Pronski 7/11, and Terrarium. Should I drop something from this list, or are there places that I should add? I've also become intrigued by a place called the Elite Club. Anything on that place?

Also, sorry to be annoying, but I will be in Tartu the rest of the visit. I'll post a request in the Other section, but does anybody know anything hot there? I was there last summer and had a really bad time, mongerwise. Thanks for anything you can provide. Hopefully I'll have good reports when I return.

Zadig

Zadig,

I have not been to B+C or Terrarium, but another place that is basically a pickup joint for paid action is Amigo's in Hotel Viru. As far as Pronski 7/11, it's good value for money, but you get what you pay for. It's sort of the McDonalds of mongering in Tallinn. I would suggest you leave it till the end and if no luck with the other locations, head down there on your last day.

If no luck with the other places, ask a cabbie for Morgans or (my preference) Club 102.
Been to Tallinn twice in the last year, would like to go again soon. Hope you can post your adventures with these locales when you get back.

Art

Hi,

planning to visit Tallinn this coming or maybe the fllowing weekend. Anyone has any good tips on where to finds girls.

Max

Why not read the previous posts...
There is plenty of good advice already available and it will take you less time to read than it would for anyone else to rewrite it for you.

Tell us how you get on!

Mr. dusty_bin,

Even if I am emphatic with your point (read previous posts), I think the same thing could have been said in a more polite way.

We are all here for the same thing, information, tomorrow it could be you asking the same thing.

No need to be aggressive.

Mr. Chencho

True, but we can all read and I don't see anyone sitting down and rewriting anything jsut yet. Do you?
At least the poster now has an idea as to why he has no response...

It is so easy to find non-pro students to go out with you in Tallinn. I was there last year, and I met a 21yo girl in a disco, a pretty nice one called Hollywood right in front of Domina City hotel. She was a hot one, with amazing ass. We met next day at a nice bar/restaurant called Pegasus(they are many beautiful young girls there hanging out everynight) we fucked all night long. I didn't think it was gonna be that easy, so I tried talking to some more girls in a disco again. I ended up going back to my room with a gorgeous blonde who loved to ride on top facing away with her long long legs, they were long enough I could suck on her toes while she was pleasuring us with her grind. She was 19. For the last night there, I really wanted to have a quiet night, so I went to an Irish pub in old town and decided to chill. No way, I ended up talking to 3 college girls there. One of them siad she has a sauna in her house, so we all went completely wasted. We were in there for a while 2 of those girls were topless in there. I mentioned that I really wanted to touch them,...... there were not any sexual tension there. They do go to sauna all the time after clubbing there. But it was a great experience going to sauna with three 20yo girls with thongs and no bra, and we sweat. We decided to drink some more vodka. one of them started touching me a little, she was so drank and horny from the sauna, I am sure because I was in my boxer shorts and had a hard on for the whole time in there. She asked me to take a cab home, so she could get dropped off on the way. Well, she never got out, my hotel wasn't that far. We fucked for good 2 hours in the bath tub and on the bed in front of a huge mirror. She was so hot.

One observation from 4 local non-pro regular girls I slept with in Tallinn->>> They all swallowed it all. Maybe it is what local men trained girls to do, I don't care but it was awsome. They all swallowed till the last drop was out. I can't stop picturing their faces doing it.

I didn't find it that easy, you must have good game! Be careful of the Scots I nearly got stabbed by one. From the Guardian today.

Rave heart

The handful of Scots who stayed on after a mid-90s football match have grown into a powerful, hard-partying economic force in Estonia, writes Ben Aris

Friday February 20, 2004

Western Europe wants to slap a ban on immigrants from the new eastern Europe states entering the EU in a few months, but in Estonia, the problem is not their people leaving the country, but all the Scots coming in.

It all started with a football friendly in 1993 between the two national sides. A group of Scottish supporters had been saving up to follow their team abroad, but could only afford one trip. Most plumped for games in more glamorous climes, but 40 brave hearts decided to follow the national team to the icy venue of Estonia, just inside the Arctic Circle. Only 20 came back. By the time the next friendly was played about 18 months later, 700 came for the game and only 400 returned.

Tiny Estonia has a population of 1.5m, the size of a small city, and is one of the 10 accession countries due to join in May. But its secret is slowly slipping out.

The gabled houses and cobbled streets of this Hansa League (an medieval trading guild that traded goods like furs and honey between Russia and the rest of Europe) town are beautiful and the Estonians have much more in common with their Finnish neighbours across the water than the Soviets.

But it is not the picturesque streets or the historical economic bonds with Britain (one of the main trade partners) that persuaded two dozen Scots to abandon their homes after two nights out in Tallinn. It was, not to put too fine a point on it, the Estonian girls.

It is St Valentine's Day in Tallinn and the Hell Hunt (White Wol), Tallinn's first pub, is filling up with punters for post-dinner drinks. Yelena Coates walks into the bar to be greeted with kisses and hugs by many of the regulars. She is the epitome of the eastern European beauty: blonde hair, a wide smile under strong cheekbones, dressed down but still sexy, and that air of coquettishness that eastern girls seem to master at birth.

Yelena is an ethnic Russian, as are half the city¹s population, but now lives most of the year in Edinburgh with her Scottish husband and six-year-old daughter, only returning occasionally to visit friends. The image of the typical Estonian diva is given a sharp jolt when she starts to speak English with a broad Scottish accent mixing in the guttural tones of her mother tongue. "It is nice to be in Scotland, but I miss my friends," she says. "I don't come back that often."

Plenty of Scots have gone native in Tallinn though. Hell Hunt manager Paul Gunn appears behind the bar in a bright green kilt and sporran, shouting at friends and dishing out drinks, surrounded by his team of Estonian barkeepers.

"The mid-90s was a mad time," he says in his broad accent. "It was a non-stop party with non-stop everything, all thrown at you at once."

Gunn, who after six years in Estonia still doesn't speak more than a few words of the impossibly difficult language (even the Finns, who are in the same language group, struggle with it), was a cofounder of Nimeta Baar, or Bar With No Name, which became the focus of party life for young Estonians.

"It all ran a bit out of control after a while. My partner was out in the casinos every night. It got to the point where the managers were coming to see me _ everyone knows everyone in this town _ and saying he is loosing too much. $10,000 a night. Now he is driving a cab in Edinburgh," says Gunn.

After Nimeta Baar, Gunn and his partner set up Nimega Baar (Bar With A Name) that even more than Nimeta, became the hub for Tallinn¹s in-crowd. But as the partying span out of control, they eventually lost control of it.

However, others were waiting in the wings to step into their shoes. Our swelling group has been joined by one of the "three Johns" _ all Scots - that now own both Nimega and Nimeta, as well as several other drinking holes in the tiny city centre.

It may have started as a wild weekend away, but the Scots have established themselves as a leading force in the growing economy.

You can walk across the old town in about 15 minutes, but it is chockful of bars and restaurants catering to the millions of Finnish visits a year from Helsinki and a growing number of stag weekenders flying in from Britain on budget deals as Tallinn's party reputation spreads its net wider.

Tallinn's bloke-centric nightlife, beautiful local girls hanging on the arms of rich men, may sound very un-PC to the western ear, but then Tallinn, was behind the iron curtain when the rest of the world went through the sexual revolution in the 1960s. For western men reared to treat women as equals, the first reaction to the brash sexuality of eastern women is one of shock, quickly followed by enrapturement.

As the evening wears on, the ranks grow. John's drop-dead gorgeous girlfriend Tanya, the dark mirror image of Yelena's blonde good looks, throws her arms around her friend, and they bury themselves in catching up. Another Tanya (a ethnic Russian, but Latvian passport holder) arrives with her British husband. Three large Scots, who own between them the country's largest sawmill, a furniture outlet and a dairy farm, chat with Gunn. (Arctic farms may be cold, they explain, but farming overheads in Estonia are so cheap, it's highly profitable.) And there's Dougal, the Irish location manager for the making of Mel Gibson's Braveheart, who comes to Tallinn whenever he can get away.

"Of course there is a lot of fun to be had here," says Gunn, gesturing at the girls, "But it is more than that. This place is alive with opportunity. It is all new. Nothing stays the same for long. All you need is energy."

Kava,

I have no idea how you achieved this. There are a lot of nice looking non-pro girls but everytime I saw somebody trying to chat them up, they would react with disgust, sort of as if insulted that the guy was thinking they were easy or a prozzie. I think the girls are friendly enough, sure, but I got the impression, as many people have said on this board, that you needed to be there a while and know them a little bit before you got lucky. That you got a few pulls this quickly is astonishing. And I'm not talking as someone who never pulls - even in London where the women can be pretty cold, I've managed occasionally to meet a decent-looking girl and be in bed with her a few hours later.

Still your tip about their tendency to swallow has reawakened my interest! I was planning to spend a few weeks between jobs this summer in Tallinn, maybe taking some Russian lessons (the reasons for THAT are pretty clear :-) ) so I may see if I can get something going with the non-pros.

No post for three weeks, must be winter! Tip for spotting pro in Tallinn/FSU. Apparently they tuck the strap of their handbag under their elbow, keeping it taut over their shoulder. I picked this tip up on a Russian woman marraige forum. (non competing, Jackson)

http://rwguide.com/thread_21982_a_tallinn_tale_is_this_a_trip_report.html

Hi Goldfinger and others,

After having made reasonable research on all these pages before my trip, I thought I could easily get what I was looking for ( a great Estonian just like the one who works in the FKK in Dietzenbach / Germany - I forgot about her name) but hell, it wasn't that simple. First I went to the famous Pronski 7/11, but nobody opened - are they closed some days? Then, in the same house, I tried app. 1, but uuuuuh, what a monster-show : two women, one abt. 50yo, whose good times are long ago, the other had close to the double of my weight. I escaped as fast as I could.

Finally, I called at Pärnu mnt. 48/25, and a friendly voice told me about three girls available. When I yarrived, there was only one but reception said, there is another ne coming in 5 minutes. They offered me a coffee, and we talked while waiting. At the end, I had the choice between a blonde, handsome 25yo and a dark-haired 30-something, slim with reasonable english - which I choose. Although Veronika was maybe a 7/10 only, we had a very relaxing and sensual hour together, recommendable to any guy who likes it smooth. My value-for-money ( EEK 500) ratio is a 9/10.

QUESTION: is there nothing like a *****-house / brothel in Tallinn? Action only in private flats or clubs like Amigo?

Bye,

Idefix

Idefix, there are loads.

Morgan has closed but lets see, club max, leesika, Tukri. Just ask a taxi driver

Often the best grils are inth eclubs, some doit that way for privacy the apartments are cheap and for locals

There are loads of names in the archives they are long term propositions, i dont use em as I prefer something more real though.

[blue]Does this look like deliberate disinformation to anybody else, or is it just me? This guy has posted essentially this same message 8 times, the last several with the HIV scare added at the end.

I'd like to hear from some of this section's regular posters. Is this guy legitimate or full of crap?

Thanks,

Jackson

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Hi,

Its better stay at home, and not go to former Eastern Countries. They are just after your money and its quite dangerous. Girls are not easy to get either, and prices are very high, for hotels resturants, bars and discos and whatever. For those who like hores can I say that they will be dissapointment becuase prices they will pay are much higher than home. It was different in the begining of 90, when just comunist time was over.

I've visited all baltic cities from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and they are all same. After being there some days you will realise you can hardly find normal girls in there.
They are all defect somehow. I think its harder to get girls in there than other Western European countries . Specially if you looking for normal girls then you are going to wrong place.

They have unrealistic ideas of the life in the west and they have a strange attittude to men. You will see all of these when you visit those countries.

People who have done the misstake and bring these girls to west to live with them will realise after a while that they have done a big misstake.

Let me know about your experience if you visit those states.

Be very very careful so you dont go back home with HIV infection becuase the HIV in population is much higher than other western coutries.

Good luck

I'm going to Estonia in May. Anyone got any rcommendations? I'm looking for younger girls, late teens, early 20s.

All Tha Stuff.

Didn¡¯t you just read the previous report? And the post before that .... and earlier reports? Some of us will never learn.

Very hard to believe any true monger that takes the postion
that western prices are not the highest in the world
and that western attitude is not the worst in the world.

Sure, of course some EE girls are greedy and cold as ice,
but after tasting and testing the GFE factor in North, South, and
Central America, and Asia, and East & West Europe, I can
say hands down that EE girls are 1000 times better.

However, its really a matter of personal taste. When you have time
and opportunity to get to the real true source of raw quality, like a
guy like Cronin in China, or that Moroccan guy, or Jackson's BA crew,
comparisons don't really apply anymore, because they have gone beyond
the "traveller's" realm. 1, 2 or even 3 weeks travelling only gives me a tiny taste of what's possible. Expat's who are lucky enough to get paid to live & work
in these places have moved to the next dimension that us travellers
never experience.

Rotting away inside the grinding race of rodents,

MM

(but counting down only 8 psychotic weeks left until its UKR-PSY time :-) !!

[blue]Does this look like deliberate disinformation to anybody else, or is it just me? This guy has posted essentially this same message 8 times, the last several with the HIV scare added at the end.

I'd like to hear from some of this section's regular posters. Is this guy legitimate or full of crap?

Thanks,

Jackson

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Hi,

Its better stay at home, and not go to former Eastern Countries. They are just after your money and its quite dangerous. Girls are not easy to get either, and prices are very high, for hotels resturants, bars and discos and whatever. For those who like hores can I say that they will be very dissapointed becuase prices they will pay are much higher than home for a bad quality with a girl with very bad attitude. It was different in the begining of 90, when just comunist time was over. It was completly different. you got quality for money and people were nice. It was amazing golden time. They were pure coutries and untouched.

I've visited all baltic cities in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania since begining of 90 and they are all same. After being there some days you will realise you can hardly find normal girls in there.

They are all defect somehow. I think its harder to get girls in there compare to Western European countries. Specially if you looking for normal girls then you are going to really wrong place.

They have unrealistic ideas of the life in the west and they have a strange attittude to men. You will see all of these when you visit those countries.

People who have done the misstake and bring these girls to west to live with them will realise after a while that they have done a big misstake.They realise too late that the most ugliest wetern girl is better than those blondies who will destroy their life later.

Let me know about your experience if you visit those states.

By the way:

Be very very careful so you dont go back home with HIV infection becuase the HIV in population is much higher than western coutries. Some reports says that the numbers are as high as some African coutries, and its growing like explosion and even European comunity is very concerned and try stop the epidemy who is growing very fast in eastern europe.

No body knows the real number of HIVs and althogh the official numbers are very high but estimated numbers of undetected HIVs are much much higher.

Good luck

[blue]Does this look like deliberate disinformation to anybody else, or is it just me? This guy has posted essentially this same message 8 times, the last several with the HIV scare added at the end.

I'd like to hear from some of this section's regular posters. Is this guy legitimate or full of crap?

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I was in Tallinn two years ago (things might have changed) and the MOST BEAUSTIFUL GIRLS WERE THROWING THEMSELVES AT ME!!!!! They would try to talk English and keep me in their shop as long as possible. They would want to meet me for breakfast, lunch or dinner to try to get to know me better. And when they saw I was not going to marry them and get them a green card they wanted to take me out to show me off to all their friends. I was arm candy!!!!

This all is changing fast in these three little countries. Estonia is going to be apart of the EU So there might be some truth to what this guy is saying but some guys are so negative and unpleasant to be around that no matter what they offer a girl, it’s going to be a no go.

jackson

i reckon that there is a small degree of truth in this - not sure about the hiv scaremongering but the picture has changed but it does everywhere once places become open to more people - eastern europe is a classic - suddenly more travellers with more ready-cash. i was touring around the eastern bloc countries in the early 60s in one of the first 230sls and my god was that heaven!!

i somehow feel that our friend may have had a bad experience and is a little bitter about something - perhaps losing his touch or too much competition around now with lots of other people having a different line to sell?

nylon stockings have been replaced with the possibility of a eu passport or us greencard - that is progress and a change of opportunities - it was easier to bring some stockings than offer a trip back to meet the folks years ago.

do not think that there is too much to be read into this but there does seem to be a taste of sour grapes somewhere along the line - perhaps causing some overreaction or he has been seriously taken for a ride?!

tt

Jackson,

There is absolutely some facts in what he is telling. Many of the great girls with Estonian/Latvian/Lithuanian passports are not working in their countries anymore. They have moved on to the scandianvian and other EU countries. So the remaining WG's are mainly hardened russians asking higher prices than what was normal in the late 90'ties. This is the situation in most hotel-bars. I have not yet used the brothels, so can not give info about them.

The HIV issue is absolutely something to be aware of. From what I have read, some doctors are afraid that they have only seen the tip of the iceberg so far. However, I guess at this stage it is more accurate for the eastern part of the baltic countries, close to Russia. But for sure, we will experience an escalation of the HIV-problem elsewhere in the Baltic.

Although eating in good restaurants in Tallinn has become more expensive also, the cost is still half of what you pay in similar places in scandinavian countries. And some of the places should have a star in the Michellin Guide.

Me, I still have my regular Estonian girl that come running when I call her. Now asking EEK 1000 for the evening, which is about usd.75. Not PRETTY, so I call her only when in a rush, ie busy with the purpose of going there, business.

Have tried to hook up with a friend here in the forum working in Tallinn, but we seem never to get the chance to be free at the same time. We had a plan to share a hot lady one night. Shall get back to this forum when sucessful.

BigthDikth

I have no anger and I'm not unpleasent. Someone must tell little facts. People will be dissapointed if they go there after reading your reports! Try give facts and not what you have experienced there. I think the one who is angry is you. I just tried give some information to other people so they dont expect a heaven and suddenly see something completly different.

I agree the matter about prices in there is not truthe all over, but i still tell you there is many new places that give you high prices as west with worse quality. They think they just charge the high prises as west becuase they have a fancy place.

I wrote what I think is true and I don't care at all if you still want go there every weekend. Its your life and your money.

Bye the way I have personaly no bad experience but what I wrote is what I believe are facts.

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Jackson,

Milky Boy is exaggerating a bit, but his overall post does have merit. I was in Estonia back in 2000, and the attitude of the girls in general was very enthusiastic. I visited last summer (2003), and there was a day and night difference. First off, there were hordes of foreign guys in town. I mean, hordes. Especially Italians. A lot of them were 18-22 year old frat boy types trying to hit on every girl in sight on the sidewalks. One night in club Hollywood, the guy/gal ratio was about 4-5 guys to 1 girl.

When you have a lot more demand than supply, the price skyrockets. Simple economics. As a result, the standards of the girls has gone way up. Like someone mentioned before, normal girls on the street scoff if one tries to approach them. Because they know it's just another foreigner who has come to their town thinking he can easily get laid.

Btw, this Kava guy below is full of it. He's making that stuff up.

As far as the change in the wind, I'll agree with the previous 3 posts.
In a place like Kiev, 4 years has brought a real movement of money coming in.
Each year from 2000 to 2003, I see more and more new high rise apartment construction, so a middle class is emerging slowly but surely, to get out of the projects. You know, the old run down soviet style buildings where life is about surviving squeezed into those tiny flats. You'll never get a true feel until you visit your girlfriend's family in one of those places. The bathrooms are about 1 inch wider than the toilet.

But things have and continue changing. In 2000, on school graduation day, the last Thursday in May, there was wild partying going on. Everybody getting hammered on countless very strong 35 cent large beers in the center and the connecting streets. Girls getting thrown into the fountains, totally drunk all night.

But go there now, there's a big ultra modern very expensive underground shopping mall where the fountains used to be. Super stuck up hotties strut around who wouldn't give James Bond the time of day. Basically identical to west Europe. In that respect, the wild old times are only a memory now.

But think how many more are still stuck trying to get out of those old projects.
The fun's not over, but everyone's right when they say its not what it was.

The trickle of reports from places like Irkutsk, Samara, Rostov, and Tahkent, don't really talk about things changing as fast, which makes me think that if you just get far enough away from the west, you can stay ahead of that wind. But to go to those place on non-business trips if you're russian language skills are poor, takes a big set of balls I think. So then for the mongers with the biggest balls to get the sweetest cherry pies is only fitting, let the little balled mongers pay up the nose for high mileage in comfy Prague.

I think part of the problem for many of the more experienced members of the forum who have been going to Eastern Bloc countries for a few years is that they have a completely different frame of reference to newer travellers. Unfortunately these people will "suffer" more than most, as they can remember the halycon days. The growth in the economy in these countries (at least in the bigger cities) and the increased number of tourists and businessmen is always going to make the situation worse and inflate prices at an exponential rate.

I don't think you can be too critical of the girls in these countries - if they ask, and more importantly get, $300 for the same service that they used to charge $100 for, that makes financial sense. The problem is the person who pays this money, not the girls for asking it in the first place. I'd do the same in their position!

In Kiev last year, a friend of mine was there at the same time as me and flush with cash. He had 3 overnighters at the Hotel Dnipro at $400 a pop, which is around £250. He's from London where this is a not uncommon rate for an hour. From his perspective he had a great time with beautiful girls at a great price. Being oblivious to the fact that he was overpaying he was delighted. The more this happens, and the more girls in these countries come aware that they can get this sort of money, the worse it will get. If you hark back to 2000 all the time, you're just going to get more and more depressed!

I'm a fairly new traveller to the Eastern Bloc and I love it there. As far as I can tell, there are more than enough beautiful women available with a great attitude and at a reasonable price. I'm not doubting it's not as much fun as it was, but I'll take Kiev over London in a heartbeat. I would still recommend Russia and Ukraine to any novice, you just need to go with realistic expectations.

The problem with HIV in these countries is very real though, as it is in parts of Africa and China. The problem is not so much that it has recently got worse, but that the genuine scale of the problem is now becoming apparant through more accurate reporting; it's no worse than in 2000, we are just beginning to know about it now. HIV awareness, testing and education is only just beginning in earnest in many of these countries (especially outside the larger cities) and I think when truely accurate figures start coming out the scale of the problem may be quite shocking.

There is some basis for the opinion that things are changing here.

It is getting harder to be ugly, unpleasant and rude.

One needs to be able to socialise and yes, prices are going up; in all areas of life.

If on the other hand, one can bother to be sociable, one can bother to look as though one cares about appearance and one is not a member of the travelling poor, then Estonia is still a great place to be. I know, I now live here!

Living here is very cheap compared to most developed countires and Estonia is certainly a developed country. If I want to pay for sex, then I need pay no more than €30 for the night. I f I so choose I can pay as much as €500. (possibly more)

As to the AIDS issue, that is really a crock.

There are about 1500 cases (IIRC, but of that order of magnitude) Most of these cases were uncovered about 2 years ago as the result of external funding for awareness and testing facilities. Since that initial surge of diagnosis, the rate of increase (the important figure) has dropped to insignificant levels. What was/is portrayed as a huge rate of infection and rapid spread of the disease is more accurately characterised as an uncovering of the pool of ten years of uder diagnosis and underreporting. Ten years worth of cases were uncovered in just one year, of course this looks catastrophic. (Imagine what the appearance of, for example, a price change over ten years would look like if reported as happening overnight.... prices double, catatrophe!) The AIDS industry has made great play of that surge, without truthfuly reporting the context. The similar situation applies in most areas of the Baltics and Russia.

How do I know?

I had access to the primary data sources. I have seen the numbers at first hand. If you want to know what goes on in the REAL world of HIV/Aids, look at the blood transfusion system, the answers are al there!

The reports you are refering are not correct! I dont know where you pick up these numbers! I am a medical doctor and i can recomend you reading united nations program on HIV/AID named UNAIDS and the epidemilological fact sheet in there. The direct adress to the fact sheet is: http://www.hivinsite.org/pdf/UNAIDS/Estonia_en.pdf

Its in PDF format and you see even the World health organisation in there. I dont know where you got those numbers that there is only 1500 with HIV. Iam sorry to say that in Estonia the number is 7700 in the end of 2001.

If you want an easy access to numbers of infections in those countries you read the report from AIDS FOUNDATION EAST&WEST. The adress is : http://www.afew.org/english/countries/estonia.php

There is other reports from other baltic govermental organisations you can easily find on internet. Please dont send wrong information to people.

If you should have seen AIDS patients you should take this more seriously to do everything informing people about the facts. One should be aware of risks in there. One should know what is waiting there. One should know about prices and risks and people in there. These coutries are basicly very different than western countries , baside the look of new shoping mals and peoples cloth and make upps that look like west. You cant change mentality and certain cultural thing in 10 years. I have read a lot of people been angry about things I wrote , but i just want to inform new guys be aware before they go there.

Remember that numbers in reports above are almost 3 years old and the real number of HIV people in there for HIV infected must be at leat 10,000 by now and not 1500 as you said . The prevalence of HIV is 1% in population only for 2001. Read the reports. Its a good site for all former soviet countries. This is not anything that government in those coutries are hiding becuase its really very very bad situation in there.

I love girls and I love fuck as much as all others but it doesent stopp me telling as much as I can about risks, in there.

I think you can find girls in there, but the question is if its worth it! I dont know the answer. I have been there and have had grate time too. but ive seen things changing slowly and lately getting so bad as a guy said before that in some discos the girl:boy ratio is 1:4 sometimes, and one can imagine how dissapointed one like us will be who waits something completly different.

Ok I know why you are wrong, I read the report!

You claimed that there were over 7000 cases of Aids, even the shoddy report does not say that, it claims that these are ESTIMATES, also there is a world of difference between carrying HIV and developing AIDS as a doctor you are of course aware of this, but perhaps forgot. Doctors have much to remember.

These figures are ESTIMATES based upon the figures that I gave you already. What they did, in very basic terms, was to extrapolate forward the figures from the previous year as though such a rate of diagnosis would occur all the time and had done so in the past. This, as far as I am concerned, fraudulent and was a part of the problem I discussed in my previous post. The DIAGNOSED infection rate is about 1 per 1000, giving a current number of diagnosed cases of 1500 or thereabouts. The rate of diagnosis has fallen now that the Aids population has been 'flushed out'

The important factor is the rate of increase, as a doctor, even you should know that and I can tell, because I have seen the graphs on the walls in the Verekesukus that the rate of new infections is indeed negligable. It basically follows the curve that would have led from about 1992 to today.

About the only part of the UNAids report that can be relied upon is the information about who is being infected becasue that is based upon the diagnosed cases directly.

Statistics can do many things, they can illuminate, or cast shade. In the murky world of Aids and Aids funding, shade is unfortunately the dominant mode. HELL, even the Estonian Government is in on the game. They get money for every case of HIV/Aids, to help with care; they are happy to receive it as it improves hospital facilities for all... (A similar situation appears to happen in most aid recieving countries, there is a lot of money and good wages in Aids!)
The game will be up very shortly in Estonia though because the rate of increase figures will be published shortly for 2002/3 and they will show what I have already told you!

I can not comment upon any other countries in this matter because I have no direct evidence, although any report employing the methodology and wording used by the UNAids writers would, I think be suspect. As you are probably aware, UNAids is an organisation pretty much discredited anyway.

Are you SURE you are a Doctor?
I for one would be concerned to see such a confusion on the part of any medical practitioner dealing with me! ;)

As you said and I will reuse...
sic 'Please dont send wrong information to people'.

I will not discuss with you anymore. I noticed that even reading the reports of well known and most respecteble organisations in the world couldent help you understand the situation in there or you dont want to undrestand. You understand everything wrong. Sorry to say but you probably read it but you couldent get in much of the information in there. I let people read it and i think most of people are smarter than you and will undrestand it. Actually its not so hard to undrestand if you [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. But you didnt understand it. We stop talking about AIDS in Estonia.

Anyway I did my point and smart people will read those websites in my previous reports and will see whats going on there, and fortunetly they dont need you to explain for them whats wroten there. Just keep writing about things you are good at and dont involve in things you dont know about.

And beside stop joking about these organisations who try helping people and dont even call it for AIDS industri. Its a very reality and without any profits for people working in this field. There is no AIDS industri. Its a AIDS tragedy going on and its growing fast in eastern and specially in baltic countries. You try saying the roports noone knows about. You saying new reports will show that the epidemi in there has slow down. I never before read it and its a joke you are saying. I dont know where you get these wrong information from ,but nobody even talk about slow down. Nothing indicates untill now that new coming reports in future will show slow down or not fast increasing compare with 2001(7000 HIVs between 15-49 years old, prevalence 1%).

You are saying coming reports will show slow down and the fast increasing number has stopped! Why you believe that when all experts say differently and its real big problem with fast increasing numbers of HIVs in baltic and specially in Estonia. you have no proof or scientific fact sheet but just talking. Stop it and let people find out by themselves.

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[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex [red]in Tallin[/red].

If you want to discuss Safe Sex, then please contrinue your conversation in the Safe Sex section of the Forum.

Let's get back to the subject of finding Women for Sex [red]in Tallin[/red].

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

Hey you guys,

I DON'T WANNA SEE YOU GUYS ARGUE HERE, please go ahead and do it somewhere else. I hope everyone understands we are on this section to talk about fucking!

Jackson asks =


[quote][i] I'd like to hear from some of this section's regular posters. Is this guy [ Milky Boy ] legitimate or full of crap? [/i][/quote]

Compare MB's description of the Action in Eastern Europe with those written by World Traveler =

WT makes East Europe sound like a Caucasian LOS; while MB apparently only meets amateur women who try to con him into getting them out of there

As for the HIV stuff =

East Europe is experiencing an Explosion in new cases of HIV Infection
[ [URL]http://www.avert.org/aroundworld.htm[/URL]]

But because the pandemic is in very early stages there, currently the Prevelance Rate is not significantly different from North America's = [URL] http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm [/URL]

You can just read the article is thos sites you are refering to:)

Is it crap? read the articles you refer to:) and you have the answer for your question! You should read it first before posting it body:)

Read even the articles I did posted before.

In one page about Baltics in the site you posted it says:

HIV spread continues at an alarming pace in the Baltic States. At 2,300 in 2002, the total number of HIV diagnoses in Latvia has risen five-fold since 1999. Just four years ago, Estonia reported 12 new HIV cases: in 2002, 899 people were newly diagnosed with the virus.

So is it something else I said in my post before?

[blue]Milky Boy,

Please re-post this in the Safe Sex section of the Forum where it can be read by those Forum Members who are specifically looking for this information.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Hi Tallin forum,
I have just spent my first night in the city (Hotel Sokos Viru) quite a good hotel with an almost respectable breakfast better than other Scandinavian offerings. I booked a return trip Helsinki-Tallin-Helsinki 1 nights hotel including breakfast for 100 Euro with Lindaline quite a good package the advertised price is 72 Euro but this is without the single supplement.

Anyway here’s how it went, first stop tried the famous Pronski 7/11 but no answer so tried to find Robinson’s the time was about 20:00hrs so it was too early for Amigos or Bonnie and Clyde no success in the search as I was on foot and the hotel map I had didn’t give much detail. Still a little cold this time of year so I decided to take a taxi BIG MISTAKE! I know we have all done it before and vow not to get caught again but I allowed him to talk me into a place he recommended, he took me to a nightclub at Teasje 29a basically a converted bungalow in the suburbs, the alarm bells were already ringing Rip off approaching but I am easily led and had popped some vitamin V.

When we arrived he insisted on coming in with me (obviously for cut) I paid him before we got out of the cab 100ekk which was high for the distance. I was the only punter in the place and was charged 50ekk for hanging my coat, sat down had a beer 60ekk, after about 2 mins a girl danced around the pole for 1 record then came and sat on my knee asking for a tip she was disappointed with the 100 I gave her which I thought was too much as she was poor. By this time I should have walked and left my taxi driver who was still waiting but the vitamin V was kicking in and there was 1 girl who had an encouraging smile the charge was 1200ekk for 1 hour not cheap but not too expensive.

The service in the room was terrible she stripped off quickly and launched into a cbj without any conversation totally mechanical and cold. I managed about 20mins before I forced myself to unload I had to ask for a shower and a towel which seemed to surprise, got dressed and decided to leave. My taxi driver was still waiting and insisted on taking me back to town even though I wanted to walk when I got in the cab the meter was still running from when I got out but I hadn’t asked him to wait, it was up to 266ekk I had paid 100 already any way when he dropped me off he pointed to the meter which was on 380 but no way was I going to pay so I gave 100 and got out.

In conclusion I had read the previous reports stating prices were on the up and it wasn’t the place it used to be but what really wound me up everybody was taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] even in the hotel Amigos bar which was quiet only 1 oldie there, when I went to hang my coat up the cloakroom guy said I had to tip him he said 100 was normal, fuck off, I took my coat up to my room. Maybe I have been very unlucky on my first visit and got caught with all the rip off merchants but I doubt it, I am well travelled and have mongered in South America many times where you need eyes in your arse. I cannot recommend Tallin as a place good for women yes the are some good lookers but that is normal any big city I suspect also with them entering the Euro and the close proximity to Finland prices will align themselves with Scandinavia as opposed to other European destinations.

May the force be with you.

Guys, this a post i just made in the Kiev section as i planing a six weeks August/September trip on what appears to be the best spots of EE, Tallin included. Thanks in advance for any answer :

I'd like to jump in with a few questions, beside the infos about pros spots which have been well reported ; excuse me for it, and thanks in advance for any answer ;

What are the current best cafes, happy-hours, outdoors terraces, bars, discos to meet regulars girls ?

Is there a kind of after-hour disco where both regulars, semi pros and pros come to late-party ?

Is there a kind of Country Club with swimming pool for sunlounging or some city beaches (with girlies to meet should be better !)

Could it be easy and at what price to reach by direct flight (on some good companies) Kiev from Tallin or Riga?

Once more, sorry to jump in the thread with questions, but Tallin will be totally new for me and i need some advices from the WSG fraternity ...

Cheers

www.inyourpocket.com

There is a 24 hour bar, the avenue, that gets busy after the clubs close.

Pirita beach, about 1km from the old town, Tallinn has a bar, gym, nightclub complex in the middle. Was built for the 1980 olympic rowing and sailing.

Airbaltic is a web based low cost airline that flys riga-kiev. Estonian air also fly Tallinn-Kiev but you have to book two weeks in advance to get the cheap seats unlike airbaltic.
Read the thread from the beginning all the info is here.

Goldfinger, thanks for this clear info.

Cheers

The brothels at Pronski 7 - 11 and at Pärnu Mnt. 48 - 25 have both closed down. Nice chap living and remodeling in the apartment at Pronski 7 -11 -- but don't think that anyone will go by to say hello to him ;)

jyates - do you know where they have moved to? or any other apartment recommendations?

tiger.

LukeSW
Sorry to hear your bad experiences in Tallinn.

The cabbie got 500eek of the 1200 you paid.

I have never been hustled for tips at the Viru hotel, I DO sometimes give the guys a tip, as I do at the bar, it saves time and energy all round, but never 100! As to Robinson, I never really have goten the hang of the place. It seems almost like a holding area for the girls in taxis. For sure, as a foreigner (non Russian) and probably relatively old, one stands out like a sore thumb.

If you want a girl then go downstairs and chat to the guy on the garde-robe, he will sort you out, in fact will probably suggest it. It is worth popping him a couple of Euro, if you are renting from there. The gils that Robinson's management round up are NOT the same as you will see in the main bar on the ground floor.

BTW wages are going up at about 10% per year and inflation is about 3%. Yes, your quick shag is going to cost more, although in all honesty, 1200eek is only about 200 more than it was five years ago.

One last thought, I would never bother with the apartments... cheap expereinces for folk who want their sex to be impersonal; and with ugly girls. The houses usually have the best that is on offer. The quality tends to improve in the summer.

Thanks for your concern Dusty, you probably like me are a well seasoned traveller, I accept the fact I was probably unlucky and didn't hit the right spots.

However I am making some parallels I have just spent a couple of days in the Bilbao region and visited a night club there Libertys near Vitoria, I had a Colombian girl 26 years old she was a stunner her arse was typical Colombian and excellent service was provided the cost 50 euro for 45 mins.

Details will be on the Spanish board soon.


May the force be with you.

BTW, just to note.

When you go to one of the brothels in the suburbs, you are paying 'furriner' prices.

If you take a girl from a nightclub, then more like €100-150 for the night. Perhaps less.

If you take a girl from Robinson, then you are buying into the taxi system and that will cost about €24 per hour, although at Robinson, you will also pay €24 for the sauna. Try to get the taxi drivers number, or the girls, cost will then drop to perhaps half the figure if the girl is called, or at least, if taxi is called, the 'sauna fee' is avoided.

For the most attractive professionals in Estonia, there should be NO need to pay more than €200 for the night. (Although you might, if like most guys who rent these girls...) BTW, it does not matter how much you pay... they will still think you were mad to pay at all!

BTW, you went to the right spots. I assume that for some reason or other you were wearing a target that said 'I have too much money'. I don't know what that target was, but losing it will save lots of money!

recently went to red room / red club?, near olympia hotel. not bad 7 girls working. talked to the barman and asked him the price. he quoted 1200eeks - i said to him that i had walked there and therefore didn't need to pay the taxi commission in my price. he smiled and asked how much I wanted to pay! i offered 800 and he agreed - so easy!

choose a lovely 23 russian girl, andrea- blonde hair, great body, perky little boobs. had a shower with her and then action for an hour. she spoke very good english and was excellent gfe.

more later (hopefully some pics!)

tiger.

Been here in Tallin for two weeks now and wanted to put in my two cents to the scene down here. All previous reports here are quite accurate with respect to the brothels and privates.

However, I find that the night club scene isn't much fruitful. Nice ladies out here but only for a good night out. Difficult to spot the semi's and working ones. Things don't get easy with a lot of the drunk scandinavian and finnish guys hitting on the ladies by the dozens. Put the women on guard for one trying to approach them later. Went out to the night club Venus on friday, first night in town, lot of girls but nothing clicking. Went to B&C and was packed with people from tours and a few old hags in the 40's range.

So, its aobut two in morning and heading back to the hotel on foot and cross paths with a cute girl in the old town aread. I figure what the heck so said HI and much to my surprise she stopped. Spoke almost no english and I offered her to go back to hotel, money etc etc. I guess she got the idea. Lead her to a taxi and off to hotel. Now this is a first for me and felt a bit proud for pulling it off. Wait....this story dosen't have a good ending. The hotel receptionist stopped and asked for her ID which she didn't have. Argued a lot with her but she who also wore the 'Employee of the month' was having none of it. Kick my luck in the ass goodbye. But didnt' let my hopes down and took her to the club Venus again, had to pay entrance 200 and good a bj in the stalls. I had to get something out of it guys. Something surely to remember.

With regards to escort the best bet it to get the magazine SL Ou*** something and under setion Toourv almost at the back. It a daily newspaper with a lot of ads. Just call em up and a 50 percent chance that they have escort and speak english. Prices are really reasonable average around 500 EEK per hour. Goes down to 350 as well. As to quality that is on the down side. But might get lucky with some young talent out there. Spot the lady a 100 as a tip and you could get a bbbj. Anal is a bit difficult to come by aut available no doubt. This is what I have been using and am quite content.

Summer coming and the girls are baring a lot out on the streets. Will keep posted on new encounters.

Cornelius

Cornelius

so what are some of the good numbers you have used to get lucky with some young talent out there?

tiger

tiger88888

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jyates98125

If You have some good advise, please tell us.

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Dusty Bin!

How to find them?

I galdly pay more if i just could find them.

"For the most attractive professionals in Estonia, there should be NO need to pay more than €200 for the night."

Pierre

Hi all pussy lovers!

I spend last weekend travelling with four guys. We had nice time with amateurs and semi-pros, experienced something new and survived with reasonable budget.


Introduction:

One of these guys asked about two months ago to organize accommodation, transportation and some program for four day trip. Idea was to see few different cities in Estonia, not just concentrate to Tallinn. Budget was set to 1000 euros. He also expressed his wish to see some girls to travel with them (not included in the budged).

Finding girls is the thing you are interested in, so first few words about it. While living here permanately it is hard to avoid meeting working girls. When friends and customers come here so often, it is easy to call few girls (known to be reliable and nice) and ask them to entertain. So I started so this time too, asked three nice ones (around 20 years of age) to join us for the whole time. Boys of course promissed to pay all the expensives and organize some pleasant programm, so I ended up offering 200 euros for each girl for the perioid of 3 nighs and 4 days. That was easily acceptable for both parties.

I wanted to find also some extra action, so I spend some time during few weeks mostly on work hours in Estonian chat rooms. I used usernames like "offering sponsorship" to get attention without asking from every girl separately. Surprisingly it worked. Private messages were from brief "hello" to direct questions like "how much". Since I write and speak understandable Estonian I used it, but told later that I am Finnish guy living in Tallinn and told my default story about looking for somebody to meet regularly (for having sex of course). Except from few young and unexperienced ones many showed interest after hearing the whole story too. In total, I got about 30 girls from all over Estonia with phone numbers, pictures and msn addersses (my favorite way to communicate). I met few of them living close to Tallinn and ended up.. well you know.

I notified few of them that I am coming on this weekend close to you with friends, if you want, we can meet and see what could happen.


Trip itself:

After these arrangements I was waiting for the guys with rented bus (9 seats) and one girl in the harbour. We began our way through shop and cafe in the old town to Pärnu. I had rented one house (with 6 bedrooms) just for us, sauna with fireplace was also in our own use. After setting up we drove to the center, took two girls found from the chat with us and headed to one nice Italian restaurant. One guy started to talk with these girls (they spoke fluent English, 18 and 20 years of age). I went to pick up two of these three "working girls" while boys continued their evening in the restaurant. It took some three hours from me, so they had already got back to the house. During few phone calls it came clear that these two "netgirls", while first very shy, warm up quite nicely and decided to go to the sauna together with the rest of the group. They also expressed their willinges to stay for the night.

I got back with two more girls just before midnight. The guy who started to talk with the two girls from the net said he is happy to be with both of them, separately or together, what ever fits best for them. Outcome was that he had three some including anal sex with both of them, whole night with very reasonable price. Girls had never done anything like that before. Guy itself was over 40, so age alone doesn't seem to make very big difference.

One of the guys falled in love with the girl met in the harbour and stayed with her the whole 4 day perioid. No reason to talk more about them.

Two guys left started to talk with these two new comers. They wanted to share one of them together, girl agreed, but in the end, she went upstairs just with one guy.

The next day we tried some horse riding in nearby establishment and drove to Tartu. One girl joined us by bus from Tallinn (being Friday evening and she was free from work), I stayed with her next two days. Girls from the net went back to home, so we had company of 5 guys and 4 girls. Friday evening went with drinking, grilling and changing pairs in some extend. Everybody had sex, not with everybody but quite many combinations anyway. It is mentionable that nobody (from the working girls) wanted anything extra for partner change or group arrangements.

Third day we drove from Tartu to Lake Peipsi, very large lake between Estonia and Russia. It haven't yet been found by foreing turists so it is easier to feel local atmosphare there. Difference to Pärnu is remarkable. We stayed in one house, just 100 meters from the beach, went to sauna, prepared nice dinner with ourselves, had sex with one and one -combinations and relaxed. If weather had been better, we would have went to sail to the lake.

Fourth day we drove to Rakvere, city 100 km east from Tallinn, had lunch and got back to Tallinn. Everybody was happy, some new places to everybody, some new experiences, enough food, drinks and sex. What more can boys want?

Guys,

A few number you call for incall service.

I don't remember the name of the girls, but I just say my preferences to the person answering the phone and get the details and select on the basis of that.
Just a warning, when they say 30 minutes arrival time, that usually means over an hour, waiting is a *****.

English is spoken on the other end but not perfect.

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From two occassions I got the numbers to the girls directly, which suits them and myself quite well. They get to keep all the money and I pay less than the agency rate. For bbbj 100 EEK extra does the trick.

Happy mongering

Maximus,

I think what you are describing is great, fun with girls but also to see a little bit of the country besides Tallinn (which, compared to say London or Paris, is quite small, after just two trips I kind of think I've seen most of the sights I need to see).

The other thing I notice you seem to be suggesting is that most of your girls are Estonian? I talked to and went with a few working girls in Tallinn, but all of them were Russian, either from "mother Russia" or Estonian Russian. I am not complaining, Russian girls are HOT, but it would be fun to sample some Eesti girls!

Art68,

I would say that in houses girls are half and half Russian and Estonian. It might be easier for me to talk and be with Estonians (language, culture) but yes, there is nothing wrong with Russians in the bed. ;)

And please, don't say it is hard to find Estonian working girls from Tallinn ;)

Max,

Of course I spent only a couple of long weekends there, but I got around, I hit Morgan's twice, Club 102 twice, went to the famous Pronski 7-11, chatted with working girls in Amigos - and every single one - except one girl in Club 102 - was Russian!

You have to keep in mind there is a bit of economic disparity between Estonian Estonians and Russian Estonians. The Russian contingent overall is a few steps behind the Estonian Estonians. The Estonians are more successful and hold a larger number of higher positions in govt. and industry. Percentage wise of course, since number wise is a given as there are more than double the number of Est. Estonians than Russian Estonians.

This also explains the seeming higher number of Russian girls in the trade compared to Estonians. Since they are poorer, they are more likely to turn to paid sex for income.

As for quality, I've been with both. You can't tell the difference. It depends on the girl. Of course, they both don't come anywhere close to the Brazilian girls. I've visited over 25 countries, almost all of them average out for quality, with the exception of Brazil. Brazilian chicks stand head and shoulders above all others. They'll fuck your out brains like nothing you've experienced before.

Guys,

Could anyone post the address to Morgans and Club 102?

And how much is the charge there?

Can one get extra's like bbbj and anal?

Thanks

Morgans is now closed, apparently, and Club 102 is in a house out in the woods somewhere, but if you ask a cab driver he will take you there. If one cab driver doesn't know, the next one will. From what I can remember it's out past Pirita somewhere.

Oh, about BBBJs and CIM - depends on the girl. First night I went to Club 102, girl wouldn't budge on BBBJ, the next night managed to barter with different girl for 1000Kr, which was really too high but I was pretty smashed and leaving the next day, didn't really think I was going to be spending that money anyway. She didn't do CIM but jesus, what a blowjob!

On the other hand at Morgan's I lucked out with a Russian girl over from Rostov who I convinced to let me CIM a couple of times, although I had to go "buy a present" with her. Came back a few months later and she was there and she not only let me CIM but she swallowed. I guess it depends on whether you can establish a good rapport with them.

Don't know what other guys think, but I reckon if you've bought them a few drinks and had a laugh with them beforehand you're more likely to get OWO and possibly CIM, than if you just drop your pants and say, "Give me CIM!"

Art 68 you are absolutely correct about Club 102. It is past Pirita and near the television tower. I've been there on several occasions but can't tell you the address. Just ask a cabbie and they'll take you there. It's been at least a year since my last visit, so am unable to give any type of report about the girls. Sorry, but maybe someone else will ;)

Club 102 is also closed. There are only three clubs working in Pirita.

Maximus,

Club 102 is also closed? Damn it, that means all the places I checked out in my two visits are closed - Morgans, 102 and Pronski 7-11. If I go back I'll be starting from scratch again - hell, might as well check out Riga if it's going to be like that.

I'm surprised about 102 though, one of the cab drivers told me it's been there for years. What is it, are the authorities starting to crack down or something? I hope not, I would say that a substantial portion of the tourism money they get from the 4 million visits they get a year is because people come over on the ferries for precisely this reason. Maybe the money spent in these establishments isn't taxed, but the guys who come over also spend money in bars, restaurants, hotels...

I think it would be a good idea for countries like Estonia and the Czech Republic to recognise that their beautiful women are a major natural resource of their countries! Cheap beer and food is great and their Old Towns are beautiful, but let's face it, once you've seen an Old Town once, you're not going to be booking a return trip in a hurry just to see it again!

To second the information. Club102 is closed. Went to Max on saturday. About 15 girls. But the russians are extremely pushy. A girl started a strip tease and then for a tip. Gave 25 but said minimum 50. I did get pissed off but they were like all in a group. Luckily there was only one estonian girl who spoke good english and had a good time with her. 50 is for entrance and an hour is 1200. A bit steep I must admit. Better to stick the house and incalls.

I got the my regular girl to talk a friend of hers into coming over. Always better with a non-pro. Do have to pay them both but I need a different taste. Even got the regular girl to finally do anal, which she extremely dislikes. And surprisingly that was the first for her and noway am I backing off. By the way she is 20 and her friend (to meet tonight) is 19! What more can I want?

Guys,

even when Club 102 is closed and Max has not-so-nice Russians (as always have had), there is no reason to forget Tallinn.

I spend this (long) weekend with one Scandinavian guy. Visited Pärnu and Tartu. Had quite nice luck, he had at best three local "non-pro" girls in the bed. He relaxed two nights with two semi-pros in Tallinn, now waiting to meet these three again tonight.

And there are still at least five houses running.. Would suggest those two in Pirita district.

Tiger88888 - Check for PM message!

Tallin rocks I have to say again. Have tried several incalls and over half have turned out to be real good services. I get the girl's private number for second time around and a reduced price as well. This 19 year old yesterday ended up screwing me instead of other way around. Was a little shy at first, not even willing to kiss and all other crap. But a little attention and warmth does wonders. She even gave a deep bbbj and CIM although didn't swalllow. Told me is an anal virgin. The next mission is to definetely change that statement. 19 anal virgin, can it get better?

Tallinn June 9, 2004.

RC (Red Club) is located close to Hotell Olympia, as another member advised earlier.
Leaving Olympia, turn right, walk across by the traffic-light, and then across the street, and you will see the RC-sign.

Rang the doorbell, welcomed by a guard, went downstairs to the bar. The bar is about 40sqm, with sittings along two walls. Ordered JB at the bar and paid EEK135 (including entrance) (abt. USD.10) About 15 girls present. In looks, between 3-8.

One girl looked better on distance, so sat down with her. Introduced herself as Andrea. She asked if I could buy her a glass of red wine, which I OK’d. Surprise! Cost EEK250 (USD.17). Wow. Expensive.

Before I approached Andrea, I asked the bartender what was going on in the club. He wanted to show me he rooms and sauna, which was on the offer, including all the girls in the bar (except for the pole-dancer). I asked the damage/cost. He quoted EEK1200 (USD.90) an hour. Another wow. I said that I did not come in a taxi (like previous member adviced), and he came down to EEK600 (USD.40) without me asking for a counter-offer.

Andrea asked for a second glass of red wine, which I did not accept, and then she asked for a vodka (EEK65) (USD10 – all amounts roughly on the exchange rate). I accepted the vodka, but she came back with a red wine, and I tried to explain this to the bartender, which all of a sudden did not speak English anymore. So I agreed to take her backstage if she would act as GF, with DATY etc. I she said yes, I would pay for the 2nd glass of red wine.

She was a talker, and seemed happy to talk English. She had been in my hometown working for a while, and talked talked talked. Hard to concentrate on the task, and I got soft after 30 minutes with her. Tried to make her work, no talk, but no success. I just decided to rip of the condom and leave.

I shall return to RC, to see if better next time. One bad adventure will not stop me.

Hey Corn-dog!

How about some photos?

Mangus,

Do I presume correct that the corn-dog was addressed to me?
If so then its unfortunate that I had my didital stolen in warsaw while having lunch in a cafe. Was that bastard slick or what, it happened in just a split second.

A couple of you guys asked about this 19 one I am seeing. I hope you agree that since she is a non-pro I will ask her first before posting her details.

My tour in Estonia comes to an end on Wednesday. Man am I going to miss this place.

Cornelius

Hello,

Is there anyone in Tallinn from the 9th till 12 July in Tallinn, who wants to look around this town for nice, pretty girls?

Please contact me by PM.

JJ

Dumn question, I know, but is the 1200 and 600 EEK quoted for one hour for the room AND the girl? Total? No hidden charges?

Estonia sounds nice.

Paul Piskanen

Yes, I paid EEK.600 for the room and the girl at the Red Club.
But please also observe that I in addition paid the entrance fee, and the redwine(s) for the girl.

Wa-hoo! Off to Tallinn the weekend the weekend of the 22nd-25th. Will hook up with another member there, although if any other visitors or residents are around, would be cool to meet up for "uks elu".

Given that pronski, morgans and club 102 (my personal favourite) are closed, all my knowledge is out of date. Anyone got any suggestions. Don't really like the sound of Red Club and Max. What about these clubs out in Pirita?

Hi,

I will in talling next month.

Does somebody could tell me sometings about MAHTRA hostel?
is it a good plase for found gilrs? what's the price?

Bye,

Alby

OK, went to Tallinn for a long weekend, within 20 minutes I remembered why I love this town. Even if you take out the mongering aspect, it's still a lovely town and there's still lots of beautiful girls just walking around.

3 negatives:

Last year when I was in the Old Town, it still felt pretty undiscovered. This year it's heaving with tourists, far more than last year, the EU accession must really have made a difference. I saw what many of us from the UK try to avoid, the standard drunken English louts who get hammered, stick to themselves and go to bars where they expect everyone to speak English so fluently that they understand regional accents that even people from London have problems understanding. Also lots of "Marthas and Hanks" from Midwest USA, "Oh my God, isn't that so PRETTY!" Plus busloads of Japanese tourists. And of course the American college kids "doing Europe" who look like they escaped from a Limp Bizkit concert!

So thankfully I hardly spent any time in the Old Town, because I hooked up with another member, Maximus, who knows the country like the back of his hand. If it hadn't been for him I think I would have been quite lost, so cheers Max. He and a group of us mongers hit other bars, restaurants, even made a day trip to Parnu where I had a picture taken with a group of foxy Russian girls on a bachelorette party who made any English hen party look absolutely drab in comparison. Being Russian they of course demanded money to take a photo with them :)! LOVE this country! I may post the photo since it's a harmless non-sexual one, not sure what the guidelines are on this.

OK negative 2. Part of the fun on my previous 2 pre-EU visits was that I was able to visit a variety of houses and chill and have a good time. Unfortunately the government is cracking down, and there was only one which I visited while I was there. Fortunately Max is on hand and knows a few houses, and he also has contacts available who work freelance. I appreciate his efforts and say to any mongers, even with the houses out of commission, you can still find girls and places, but I'd suggest you get in touch with someone like Max who knows the town.

Negative 3. Joining the EU seems to have tightened visa controls, because all the girls in the house were Estonian Russians, generally from smaller towns. Unlike the Russian girls last year who had come over from St Petersburg or wherever and were out to make as much money as possible while they were there, and were willing to be more flexible (I got BBBJ's and CIM) the local girls, while still looking to make money, are not quite as - I don't like to use this word but...desperate. Still 3 nights of good experience, but to this day the best experiences I had were with visiting Russian girls last year. But then you would have had to experience Tallinn in previous years to notice the difference. If you haven't gone, you still find an amazing variety of lovely 18-22 year old girls working in these places.

One positive, I didn't think costs in the houses had gone up. €100 last year per hour, €100 this year. Of course there are probably still "privates" like Pronski in operation where you can get it for €35 but I guess you'd have to look for them. I went once last year and while the service was okay, it was pretty standard, you got what you paid for.

Most of the well-known houses will close September 1st so if you are thinking of going, you have a month to take full advantage!

Don't know about picking up non-pros, still have the impression you have to be there for a while and you've got to seem sincere. I'm of Indian origin and while I got some looks last year, this year there were so many minorities from UK, France Germany that I was no longer so exotic :-( Funnily enough I did get checked out and smiled at invitingly by a couple of girls in the street but unfortunately they were in the 14-15 year range which is a little too young for my liking!

There you have it folks, how a country has changed since my report of a visit 11 months ago. Still a fantastic, clean and safe place, but probably far more enjoyable if you can meet up with a local contact and avoid tourist traps.

art68 - where did you hear that the houses are closing on sept 1? can any other punters verify this, max?

tiger

Guys,

yes, it is true, houses will be closed as we know them now. Probably owners will set up similiar places but they will be membership based or at least driver have to talk you in. This might also mean increase to the prices.

Seems it will be even more important to know people in near future- public and open offer will come to minimum - working girls itself will not disappear.

Current brothels will be closed. The action is taken against pimps. Apartments shared by girls will continue and as there is nothing to stop people renting a room for short periods, my guess is that the existing places will close and reopen on the basis that the punter pays to rent a room from the managment and selects a gril to whom he pays a fee.

In appearance at least there is no pimpage and the system carries on.

Was talking with a girl about this matter earlier today. Also, expect to see an expansion in sites such as Secretary Academy (sihiteeriopisto.fi) I have probably not got the name right, can a Finnish guy correct me? Thanks.

My guess is that prices will be a bit up and down to start with, but will generally end up higher. Perhaps not a bad thing, some of the girls do not exactly earn a fortune for shagging us ugly, drunken buggers!

DB,

"some of the girls do not exactly earn a fortune for shagging us ugly, drunken buggers!"

I resent your description of us above.

I ALWAYS tip well! :)

Right address is www.sihteeriopisto.net. Starting from August escort advertisement has been illegal in Finland (publishing contact information of working girls is considered pimping) so they have closed big parts of the site for time being.

Art68
I have noticed the same as you. Tallinn is being destroyed. Last year - and the year before - was fantastic. This year everything has changed (i've been there tree times this summer).
My girlfriends (and girls i meet when i'm going out) are constantly talking in anger about the "touristmen who are coming to Tallinn just to get laid and then go home".
They are also beginning to notice the same thing that girls in the west have noticed in many years: how sleasy and dirty the minority-boys from Uk, Germany, etc are. Not to mention what they say about the Italians! No wonder that you received less smiles this year, even if you where behaving nice.

I will avoid Tallinn from now on. I know exactly where to go next time to get that "Tallinn-feeling" again. And thats not in Estonia. Tallinn are destroyed. And now the houses are closing down. It cant be worse.
I love Tallinn, but my advice to fellow mongers: choose other cities.

Well, that was a bit of a surprise to the girls... I just spoke with a girl who advertises with them. She said to me that she now understood why her phone had stopped ringing the last few days.

According to the info, they are selling the site. My guess is moving the server to Estonia or Russia more like...

The tourism thing is getting a bit silly, I agree, but not in quite the way that others suggest. What has actually happened is that the market is meeting demand, so now when I go out, it is bloody hard to tell the civilians from professionals, especially when they do not let on for some time. Also, the places to go are now having to change. Frankly, neither I nor other residents are over chuffed when girls are continually approached by Italians, Germans and to a degree Britons. At least the Britons have some money, want to spend it and there are relatively few of them. Other travellers often seem to be members of the 'travelling poor'. So now, we seek new places and leave the old haunts to tourists. I expect that dress codes will start to make an appearance and a few more members clubs. I find myself looking forward to the winter months once more.

HRCHRISTER: I didn't say I got less or more smiles this year, I just said that nobody even looked at me twice this year because now they are so used to seeing different people. This means that whereas before you would get checked out because you were unique, and maybe you could start a conversation from that, now you can't. (People would come up to me last summer and start conversations, now they didn't). I also wouldn't say it's necessarily that you're in a minority they think you're dirty or sleazy, but unfortunately they can tell automatically that you are not from there, therefore chances are you are a tourist, and as a male tourist on his own, they probably automatically assume you're a sex tourist... so you must be dirty and sleazy just like all the other tourists! The only difference really is that they can identify you as a tourist a lot faster! Probably also true of people from mediterranean countries like Spain or Italy or Portugal who often don't look like the average Estonian.

But I never got that feeling anyway, people were always nice. Then again, I made it a point to learn some basic estonian phrases the first time I went and I always try and say "hello" and "please" in estonian, it's amazing how far that takes you (unlike, say, France).

DUSTY BIN: From what I saw in the expat bars this year, I can only imagine how pissed off resident foreigners are now that the "floods" are coming in. I don't even live there and I was pissed off! The first time I went, I basically went out with some Brits and Irish people from the consulates there and in St Petersburg. This year, even though there were tons of Brits I stayed as far away as possible. The only good thing about the Brits is that yes, they do seem to want to spend their money, and also, as drunk as they get, there's still some sort of repression thing happening, they won't as blatantly approach girls for paid sex - I don't think they've really gained this reputation in a lot of countries.

But the good news about Estonia is that really, outside the old town and centre, most tourists don't seem to want to venture (ok the Finns, but they have a longer history with Estonia and they have a language advantage). I think this means there are still lots of places in Estonia to see and adventure in. Just trying to work out my finances to see how I could spend a year there!

Art68. mmmh...i would be a little bit careful living other places than Tallinn in Estonia if your not nordic looking. In the west part you got Pärnu, where it is a lot of rasism against all foreigners. I have been there a lot, and i can't count how many times local men has made trouble just because i have lot of girlfriends there (i'm kinda big, so they just send me ugly sights and comments, but i have seen other tourist been beaten the hell of).
And in the eastern part, like Tartu and other cities, you got skinheads, and a lot of skeptism towards minorities. This is in general. Use you money in other countries.

HRCHRISTER,

I appreciate what you are saying, but I wouldn't think of living anywhere but Tallinn just purely because I think most of the jobs (for non-Estonians) are in Tallinn. But Parnu seemed a nice place to visit. Anyway, there's a lot of towns in the UK I wouldn't choose to live either (and I'm sure there are towns in Eastern Germany I would not choose to live either). Local arseholes are local arseholes anywhere.

I'm sure there are problems like what you are describing but I do not believe it is anywhere near as say Russia.

Yes,

Their skinheads hate germans and mostly Swedish and Finish guys. I have seen Swedish and Finish guys beeing badly beaten of Skinheads. They dont like Nordic people because they come and take their women. Its better if you look like indian, black or russian or english look, but not Scandinavian or worse look like germs. But dont worry, in tallin even Swedish and other nordic people have no problem if they are not alone at nights and alone in Discos.

Compare with other cities in Baltic girls at least talk english, and its more secure place. just avoid other cities in baltic coutries. In wintertime Thallin will be better but still never be as it was in 1990-1995. Forget it guys! Other bigger cities in baltic are even worse. If you want experience Estonia as it was 10 years ago, go to belurussia, or Russia. Its little truble with visa but its worse it.

'Their skinheads hate germans and mostly Swedish and Finish guys. I have seen Swedish and Finish guys beeing badly beaten of Skinheads. They dont like Nordic people because they come and take their women. Its better if you look like indian, black or russian or english look, but not Scandinavian or worse look like germs.'

Milky Boy,

With all due respect, I kindly disagree with you on the racial hatred. Probably their skinheads don't like Swedes, Finns or Germans but local Estonian people are genetically close to them. Basically they don't like people of black (black dick is sth different for the local women), Asian, Arab or maybe Hispanic looks. Its a pure biological thing and its got nothing to do with alien culture. Although I have never been to Estonia, I do believe what you have experienced is very unusual. posting the words 'Its better if you look.' is somewhat misleading for the nonwhite participants on the forum. I lived in the Scandinavia for more than 7 yrs and I do know whats on their minds. Skinheads are virtually the same all over East Europe and there is no reason for skinheads in Estonia to do sth radical against white while their conterparts in Russia do the minorities.

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Somebody is talking out of his bum...

For some reason that I do not know, a poster is writing inaccurate stuff about skinheads, violence and discrimination.

I live here.

I do not see skinheads, but I am not blind.

Among some groups it is fashionable to have very cropped hair. Some of these guys belong to 'sporting clubs' and some of these groups are racist.

But, they are not skinheads in the sense that a Briton or German might recognise. Nor is there any great degree of street crime or violence, other than the normal puppy fights between drunk teenagers that provide more amusement and spectacle for both locals and tourists than threat to anyone.

It is true that if you get drunk enough that you can not control yourself, or that you make yourself a victim, then you may, just as anywhere else, find yourself in unpleasant circumstances, but then the same would apply in any city in any part of the world.

BTW, I do not live in an expat ghetto, I live in a working class suburb, I am safe from harm, even though I am the only foreigner living within a kilometer in any direction.

While it is true that the recent influx of European travellers has changed the character of the city's social scene (for the worse -IMHO) the place is friendly and fun.

BTW - notes to Italian guys!
1) Not all women in clubs are prostitutes! Most are not!
2) Spend some money guys, this is a relatively poor country, but you guys make it look like you are coming from a third world nation.
3) Please do a reality check--- when you are hitting on a woman why make the women laugh at you by trying to pull a woman old enough to be your mother?
4) In Europe, men commonly use an item of male grooming called a razor. They can be bought in many shops and kiosks, try using one sometimes!
5) Stay in an hotel, not a hostel. That one letter makes a lot of difference between being a member of the travelling poor and being a respectable traveller!

These notes bought to you by a guy who was out clubbing last night and saw Italians getting a giggle from women at every turn. The tarts will take your money (while laughing), the rest were just laughing!

Dusty bin,

I am half-italian and, frankly, I think you can keep your suggestions for yourself.

I think that any of us, expatriate or long-term living in a foreing country, is able to write a list of suggestions for people new to the scene.

And this applies to any "newbie", no matter where they come from: Germiany, Usa, England or Tonga Islands.

I am living in Thailand and I could write a book about "how middle aged english man are screwed by young and cute thai girls".

But there is no point in semi-racist remarks like yours.

I don't want to defend Italians but I find this kind of humour a little bit silly.

I hope you don't take this post in the worng way.

Regards,

Alejandro

I think Dusty Bin's analysis is closest to what I personally saw.

While it is too extreme to say that there are skinheads rampaging down the streets of Estonia beating up anybody of a darker complexion, it is also too extreme to say that they would ignore such people and concentrate on scandinavian tourists. I think it would be more like they would beat up a black person, but if none were around they would find the nearest finnish guy and beat him up. Or Italian. Or all of them.

Of course I'm sure there are some, but I personally saw none, and even forgetting them, I didn't personally feel any bad or unfriendly looks from people, just slightly bemused or curious. I think if the circumstances were right for lots of skinhead groups to appear, you would also feel unfriendliness from a lot of "normal" people, the skinheads being an extreme manifestation of the dislike most people would have. However most Estonian people in my opinion were friendly. If there are some extremist groups I feel it would be the exception not the rule.

Anyway, I will say this, and I think any visible minority member who has spent his whole life in a European country would agree with me, you develop a kind of "6th sense" a kind of early warning system when you go anywhere. Without really consciously thinking about it, you look to see the kind of looks or the kind of silences that greet you. You are always that little bit extra aware, especially when you go into a place you have never been or you are not that familiar with. The one good thing about extremist racists is that they are not such good actors, you can pretty much tell within a couple of seconds of looking at the hostility in their eyes that it's a good time to leave. So, even if there are such dangers in Estonia, I doubt I or many other minority posters would just casually stroll in without thinking or keeping an eye out and say something foolish like, "Hey guys! Where de white women at?"

Of course, nobody can guarantee a 100 % safety but with common sense you can reduce the chances of something bad happening to a minimum.

Actually, it was not humour and there is no need to defend the indefensible.

I referred to Italians because it was they who were exemplars of the points I noted, not Britons, Indians, Germans or French...

There is a reason for this. There are now direct flights from Italy for about 120Euro. This is pretty cheap and the result is that Fabrizio, Antonio and the boyz are making the trip over. This evening, most had gone home; there were noticably fewer guys with fuzzy chops wandering around in packs.

Loads of English guys go to Thailand specifically to be screwed by Thai girls. There is a large industry devoted to the care and maintenance of guys who want commercial sex. In Tallinn, there is not, but many guys, but particularly noticably, this summer, Italian guys who think all Estonian women are on the game and will go all round heeled for a poorly groomed Italian with no money...
I doubt that in Thailand there are many young Britons walking the street in normal downtown areas, approaching girls and doing the same in places where ordinary people go for a night out with their friends...

I think that other posters who have been in Tallinn in recent weeks will have seem the same as I.

I did not take your post the wrong way, I understood exactly what you were trying to say, but if you are familiar with the 'style' of your working class countrymen, you will understand the points I was making. The Italians are, in this respect, very different to the Britons, who almost universally have plenty of money and a somewhat better set of manners. Poor Finns usually travel with their wives to buy beer and food, Germans and Spanish usually with families.
I saw three of the most gorgeous girls last night. It turned out that they were with three Britons over for the weekend. When I saw them together I could understand how the guys had done so well. The Britons were as well dressed as their girls, they behaved well with them and to make the final seal on the deal, it was obvious that some time had been spent, in the afternoon, with the three beauties, doing some shopping. They made a very attractive group, a pleasure to see and I am certain that all six had a very pleasant time.
There is a difference.

Dusty Bin,

I just answer to a couple of sentences you wrote in your message.
You wrote: "I doubt that in Thailand there are many young Britons walking the street in normal downtown areas, approaching girls and doing the same in places where ordinary people go for a night out with their friends...".

I saw exactly the same scenes you described in Tallin. But performed by young, drunk britons.

By the way now I am in Italy on holiday and I spent the last week in Palma de Majorca. Overthere britons are not well known for there good manners.

Again you wrote: "The Italians are, in this respect, very different to the Britons, who almost universally have plenty of money and a somewhat better set of manners".

This is completely stupid. Sorry but how can you judge a people just on what you saw in a small city in Estonia? This is a complete non-sense. Moreover I don't know how many people would agree that Britons have a better set of manners of Italians.

And when you wrote that the Britons were well dressed onestly you made me smile as everybody know that Italy is the land of fashion and Italians are among the best dressed people in the world.
I don't want to start a verbal fight but I think that it is impossible to make general statement about a whole people just because you saw the behaviour of a group o Italians on holiday in tallin. I would never judge all the Britons basing on the behaviour of the infamous football hooligans. And you ask me if i am familiar with working class italian people. Yes I am. And I think that you are familiar enough with english working class to know that its behaviour would not be so different in the same situation.

What I am tring to tell you is that in every western-rich-industrialized country you have working class, middel class and upper class and their behaviour are more or less the same.

So painting the all the Britons as Lords and all Italians as poor uneducated countrymen is completely wrong and shows a little knowledge of my country as well as a little bit of racism.

Regards,

Alejandro

[blue]Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

[i]Jackson[/i][/blue]

Dusty Bin.
Im totally agree with you. I've been to Tallinn a lot of times, twice the 8 last weeks, and i have seen the same as you about the Italians. And no, Alejandro66, he did not say semi-racist remarks. He just said the truth - something everyone in Tallinn can see, if they want.
This is something i see from miniority-men also (in general). No affense, Art68, but in general i notice a bit different view and attitude towards blond nordic woman from many minitory men, than we Nordic men do. All this is destroying the friendliness the estoinan girls are known for. In a couple of years from now, friendly Tallinn has become just the same as the cities in their western neigbourcountries after years with (to much) immigration.

But lets start discuss woman again, boys! This is after all a mongers site. I will be in Tallinn (for the last time) from Thursday this week to Monday next week – if someone want a beer. PM me.

If you want to know what the scene is in Tallinn and why it may have been irreparably spoiled, read the news. And this is only part of the problem:

Estonian Coffers Bulge from Booze-Cruising Finns
Aug 6, 1:04 pm ET

TALLINN (Reuters) - A rush of thirsty Finns making the short trip across to neighboring Estonia to stock up on cheap booze and beer have boosted state coffers in the small Baltic EU newcomer, the Finance Ministry said on Thursday.

Revenues from alcohol taxes rose more than 40 percent in June from the same period last year to 162 million kroons ($12.49 million) as Finns booze-cruised to the ex-Soviet state, and early estimates suggest a similar rise for July.

Finance Minister Taavi Veskimagi told Reuters EU entry had made it easier to travel to and from Estonia.

"But it's not all about alcohol," he said, adding that he hoped tourists would stay longer in the country and discover more of what Estonia has to offer.

Finnish "Vodka tourists" have long been a fixture of Estonia's capital Tallinn despite previous limitations on how much they could bring back.

But now they can take back as much booze and brew as they can carry after the small country of 1.4 million people joined the European Union in May.

Estonia's Finance Ministry plans to raise the tax on strong liquor by 20 percent from next year, but Estonian prices on alcohol will still remain far below Finnish levels.

A bottle of Estonian vodka currently cost around 5 to 6 euros ($6 to $7) compared with just above 16 euros in Finland even after Finnish authorities slashed alcohol taxes March in fear of the so-called "Vodka rallies" spiraling out of control after EU enlargement.

HRCHRISTER,

Yes, let's get back to the main topic. I have noted your points and I think I see what kind of opinions you hold. I'm not entirely sure this is the place to voice them, based on a one-sentence comment I made in my report, but of course editorial decisons are best left to Jackson. I don't think I will be requiring any more "advice" from you in future, thanks very much anyway. Let's leave it there.

DUSTY BIN: In all fairness , I think so far Tallinn has been lucky with Brits. Its starting to get a name here now - tonight on BBC 2's Newsnight they had an entire segment on Tallinn, showing some of the stag parties who are headed over, and they were basically probing the question of making money on one hand versus the effects of this kind of tourism on the city. I'm kind of gloomy about this, just thinking that 12 months ago I headed over to a place hardly anyone here had heard about and now its becoming a by-word for drunkenness and bad behaviour. I just hope the police nip any stupidity in the bud. The thing is, the Brits who are coming over at the moment are a little bit more resourceful, they've done some research, they had to find the one airline that flies directly from the UK to Tallinn - all that will change once you get some low cost airline flying there and travel agencies really start pushing Estonia - unfortunately then Tallinn will see the really low-rent Brits. I hope I'm wrong, I really don't want to see it become a Baltic version of Benidorm or Magaluf, but I don't think I am.

Anyway, I think I'm headed over for the August Bank Holiday with a bunch of friends who want to see it before it becomes spoiled. It still hasn't completely lost its charm for me.

Alejandro-
the Britons who come to Tallinn are generally speaking quite well off. This is a result of ther geographic origin. Usually they come from the London area, the richest in the UK, this is because the flights leave from Gatwick and so unless you are local, the times make a quick weekend visit impractical. On a BBC Newsnight programe last night, a British group were interviewed, they were planning to spend, EACH about 1000Euro, on top of their accommodation and travel. THis is a lot of money and very few other groups have this kind of spending power.
I know, from my connections that this is far from uncommon, they spend a lot of money. The Italians, in contrast do not have this kind of money, or if they do, are happy to hide it.

This does not mean that all Britons are wealthy, although those who travel tend to spend a lot, but many tourists are like the typical Italian Tallinn visitor, quite poor. They have yet to arrive in Tallinn because of the cost.

ART68
A thought to remember: Stag trips to Tallinn have become something of a 'hot-button' in both the UK and Estonia (and possibly Italy), but during 2003 there were less than 30,000 British visitors to Tallinn in the whole year. There are more Finns on any given weekend, than Britons in a year. Tour companies like to see the guys wearing the same T -shirts or polo shirts, it helps to identify them. This is good becasue they can be easily identified if there is a problem and frankly there are very few problems. I am associated with a firm that is in the stag trip field, although you will not have heard the name; to the best of my recollection, there was last year, one arrest, of one Briton and he went off home with a caution.

Essentially, this is a storm in a tea cup. Tallinn is learning to accommodate groups of young lads who, unlike Finns, do not get drunk and go to sleep. It is easier to accommodate those with money than those without. It will not take long for girls to recognise who are 'good company' and who are not. Sadly, they will tend to generalise, that is bad for all of us who live in Tallinn, but worst for those whose countrymen do not make good company.

There is actually very little bad behaviour, from any national group. My comments about the Italians were more about social ineptitide than bad behaviour. One does not feel threatened by their presence, other than wanting to call the fashion police! ;)

Tallinn and Estonia as a whole are a delight.

So, back on topic...
When you travel, spend some money, be nice and help the girls to have a good time. After all, how many of them actually WANT to fuck you for money? If you are sensible, I am sure that the supply of round heeled lovelies will expand to meet the demand.

Hi dusty,

It seems you do not miss any oppurtunity to throw shit on Italians.

You told what you think about them so many times. Is a kind of paranoid persecution, you are scared to lose power in your "pick-up arena" or simply some Italians has fucked your girlfriend?

I still remember the time I was one Havana beach with two girls. 4 Italians guys who were there near us had been eyeing one chica had the nerve to call her and ask for her number. Talk about a lack of respect !
I hate to sterotype people but generally speaking my experiences with Italians have not that positive.
Just my 2 cents.

Dusty Bin,

i understand your point of view. I hope you will meet soon some nice, well educated, well-off and well dressed italian people.

I can tell you that it is very easy.

Anyway I appreciated the calm and kindless in your posts.

I am quite convinced now that there isn't any racist remark in your posts.

Now go back to the topic: girls!

Downunder,

I guess that your experience with Italians has been made outside Italy.

Just try to expand your views.

It may be that staying downunder bring all your blood far from your brain...

Just a joke, of course.

I spent 2 years working in Australia (Perh, WA) and, generally speaking, my experience with australian people was wonderful.
Alejandro

ok my turn

Italians i think as a general population are extreamly nice and friendly.

I will admit that i have seen some italians in rome go from on american/english/german girl after another tring to pick them up. This was very strange to me and i maybe even though it was rude. But i tell you what i never saw them leave empty handed. I dont think they are better looking than the others in the bar but the group of english guy I saw tring to blow there drinks through a straw at a italian did not impress to many women. So in the end italian men may be a bit forward and even rude when it comes to picking up girls but like they say if you dont ask the answer is always no, but if you ask enough then someone will say yes.

So i must also say that not all italians are like this. the same as i hope not all english men are hooligans.

wow who knew that flamming could be so much fun

Cassius-
If I wanted to act as you suggest I do, I think I could find a better forum in which to perform.

I also think that you have not been reading very far or very long, or you simply could not have written as you did. I have made a single post with two follow ups that adressed discussion points from that post.

Most Italians I know and have met are just fine. I lived with one for a while and when he finally learned that his mummy was not going to wash his clothes any more, he was great. They are usually polite and good company. I am happy to have an Italian friend here in Tallinn. The guys to whom I referred displayed the traits I mentioned. Others have commented and explained why it is so. I learned something.

Do I assume that you are an Italian with a newly found complex?
Come vist and change our perceptions!

Jackson

I suggest a new topic: Europe / Estonia / Tallinn / Italian Men
Thanks

so why dont some of these italians write about there experiences here - this forum is trip reports and action....

I went out to play last night.

On my way home, I popped into Amigo, it is on the way home and entrance is free for me.

The place was really crowded. Much more than a normal Wednesday. Two strange things.
1) Many more guys than girls.
2) Everything with a pussy had been dragged in to serve the additional clients.

BTW, the majority of additional clients?
Yep, you guessed!

I was chatting to a woman at the bar. Alongside me, one of the pensioners dragged in to service the new clients was being earnestly chatted up by Ernesto, who was 25 if if he was a day. TO be fair, she was good looking for a 50+ year old, but her best days were behind her. Possibly she had come out with her grand daughter?

The Italian thing is getting very funny now. They are quite well behaved, but some of the younger ones need to watch themselves. Not so much in the clubs, but in the street and Mickey D's. It is not their fault, but some of the young girls 15-16 are coming on to these lads who are only very young also. The girl's Russian boyfriends are not happy to see this flirting with their girls, even though it is the girls instigating it!
There will be trouble. Young girls like to see thier guys fighting over them, same the world over. The Russian lads will fight, I doubt many of the Italians will be ready for the consequences.

I was happy, I found what I was looking for and left. I guess I am looking for different things to many of the visitors. Probably most visitors will find that there is enough to go round, notwithstanding the number of guys last night, most seemed happy to stand and stare.

I never been in Tallin, but I am use to go to Bratislava where often when I am not hunting. Sorry threaten with kalasnikov every women I say to have sex with me. I enjoy myself looking to polite-self-control british people sing late night drunk across the street on Stare Mesto, Old City, in Blava.

Particularly one pub, Dubliner, seems to show so well which kind of people are british people (yes we know the problem of hooligans tipically england problem for all the state has English football team as guest is nothing compare with one or two Italians that that in holiday touch the ass of one woman.) Fortunately not every British person is like them or like our fellow but so proud and racist super perfect man bin. God save the Quenn.

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Lukasek, I realise the English is not your first language. Because of this you probably missed the meaning of almost all of that I wrote.

So, you will have missed the points where I talked about the generally good behaviour of the Italians (the reason why I assume you needed to start a rant in a language that you do not use too well.)

You will have missed that I was pointing out things that would make it easier for Italians to acheive success. Most of what I wrote was hardly critical except in broad terms. I mean frankly, do you think that it is the most sensible thing in the world to be led on by a bunch of little girls when the likely response is a good kicking (at best) from the girl's boyfriends? Most travellers are aware of these issues, the current crop of Italians, because of their heritage/background seems unaware. The older guys seem more interested in older women, I don't know why, but they could do so much better, if they removed their beer goggles.

I was not claiming that all Britons everywhere were well behaved, they are not. I was, however, noting the differences between the Italian situation in Estonia and the British situation in Estonia. Sorry you could not understand what I wrote and also that you have no practical experience that allows you to debate objectively the point.

My points were much more along the line of 'hunting tips'. If you or anyone else can not understand them as such, becasue of language or other deficits, please do not involve yourself in discussion of them. If you understand what I wrote, then there is no need for criticism, or comparitive, but much more pejorative rants about another nation's people.

I will be happy, if a single Italian, Briton, Dutchman or Finn reads the previous posts and as a result learns enough to avoid a kicking, find a woman from the same generation as himself, or knows to stay in an hotel or apartment rather thanthe cheapest form of accommodation, used by the travelling poor worldwide, and rejected as a suitable trysting place, almost universally by women of easy, or negotiable virtue!

There is a reason why women ask where a man is staying (or had you not figured that out?)

If the streets were hoaching with Britons, Germans, Finns etc doing the same as the Italians I would cheerfully and accurately have described their behaviour in the same terms.

Dusty Bin,

Your answer to Lukasek is quite arrogant.

I don't know how can you be so full of yourself. Just because you're living in Tallin and are able to buy some sex in a "polite" way...

I think (and I hope) that Lukasek will give you the answer that you desereve.

Writing sentences like:

"If you or anyone else can not understand them as such, becasue of language or other deficits..."

or:

"I assume you needed to start a rant in a language that you do not use too well..."

Just show how you are narrow-minded.

I was thinkng to submit you post to Jackson but I don't want to waste more time on you.

Alejandro

Hi Dusty,

I often read the reports of this forum to get some info about the scene in the cities where I need to go for my business. This is my first post and I think I must do it as I'm an Italian and have been several times in Tallinn in the past 8 months. Sorry if my English is not perfect, but hope you will understand me anyway.

I'm a typical 38 y.o. italian guy, dark haired, fit and quite tall (more than italian average). I take care about my appearance and I keep my business attire often also after dinner (italian suits are still best of breed fashion, or not?). Even if I don't care to spend money (believe me I can spend a lot when a cutie is really hot!) I prefer to hunt freebies or semi-pros. No ethic in this, I just like the thrill of the hunt (if the quest takes to time I need anyway a pro...)

I easily got GFE anytime I was in Tallinn. Of course not all the girl are waiting for me to be shagged... I would say that I score every 3-4 and I rigorously avoid teens. I use eye contact in restaurants or expat bars (like Malone or Nimega) or simply send a bottle of champagne to the girl I'm interested in (if I'm in a disco bar like Mrs. Robinson or Venus). When the girl smiles and accept I go straight on, if not I immediately give up, as I don't want to bother anyone.

I don't think I'm rude behaving this way. That doesn't mean I'm greedy. A girlfriend is a lot of restaurants, travels, gifts. Treat them nice and you will get the best time you can imagine! A couple of girls came to Italy for a romantic week-end. Just be honest to keep out marriage thoughts and illusions

I have to say that my experience in Tallinn is not different from other places. I have more or less the same hit rate in many other countries (only UK is always really tough for me)

I slightly agree that the scene in Tallinn got worse last july. A lot of italian young people messing all around, but also several drunk Finns and Britons. One night I helped a couple of Scottish guys with more spirit than blood in the veins to reach their room in the Radisson where I use to stay

I will be back in Tallinn in september and I will be happy to offer you a beer to show that Italians can have fun in a polite way

Hope misundertandings between all of us are over

T

Alejandro66 and you others: SHUT UP!

This forum is for discussing pussy - and NOTHING else.

I visited Tallinn this weekend, and i noticed the same thing that Dusty Bin has been saying. I even saw some Italian-looking got a nasty beating near Suur-Karja.

But even if Dusty tells the truth or not i don't care. This "problem" vil solute itselves. The esonian girls has clearly began to notice their behaviour and sadly enough the local boys seems to haunt them down. Soon the planes from south will be "empty", at least not so full of pussyhunters.

In the meantime we should start discussing women again (and safe ways to get them). I may have something to add - IF you are interested in pussynews in this tread. I'm starting to wonder!

Hi guys

Common guys please come back to the piont and talk about OUR hobby GIRLS¨.

ESSI

Alejandro66 -
that is fine. I realise that not all can understand what I write. Sorry for writing in English, I don't do Italian, German or other languages. If you feel that what I wrote should be proscribed, then please feel free to point out any, or all of my posts to Jackson. A man who I know CAN read English and who has already seen these posts.

If I would need to open my mind in order to have the perception that you seem to have, then please God willing, I may forever remain closed minded.

Thanks for your well intentioned, but inaccurate comments!

Dusty Bin,

I write this message just to let you know that I AM ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH.

I just want to remark that insulting someone just beause his knowledge of English is not perfect is not fair. I think many people in this forum would agree about this fact.

And I have no doubt that you will remain narrow-minded... but very narrow minded as you are.

Anyway I agree that this discussion went a little bit too further.
So go back to the main objetc of this forum: girls.

Hrchrister,

I can understand by myself if I have to shut up or not.
If you don't like it please submit my posts to Jackson and ask him to ban me.

And soon the planes from South will be empty because not so many people like to go in a frozen land.

Anyway I guess you will be able to find some good company overthere.

Alejandro

Tonit66-

When you are next in town, let me know! If you do well in Robinson, you do better than I; but then I am a fat old geezer! For some reason, other than taking my own, which can be good fun, I have never done well there.

Alejandro66-
That's fine too! But don't forget the dictionary!

Dusty Bin,

Today I found my dictionary and now I have a good idea about how to use it.

Anyway I am sure you are too narrow-minded to guess.

Alejandro

I assume that you have some idea in connection with yourself as we are unlikely to be meeting any time soon!

So now you know the meanings of the words and understand what I wrote, that is good. Comprehension leads to insight!

Dusty Bin,

Wrong assumption, sorry.

It has a lot to do with you.

Please try to guess!

I understand that this is a very big effort for you, but once in a life time you can try.

You wrote that comprehension leads to insight?

Are you sure about it?

You always write that you have a perfect command of English (comprehension included, I guess) but I can not see any sign of insight in your post.

Try again!

Alejandro

Wow! this exchange is still going on! As far as I can recall it began after my last report in Tallinn back in July. While you guys have been arguing I was busy researching the internet for cheap flights and arranging another trip :-) ! Just came back from a long weekend there.

Great 4 days, the ordinary girls you see walking around the street are still phenomenal. This time I took 3 friends along from the UK and they were turning their heads every few seconds. As one of them remarked, "You can tell the guys who have just come back from Tallinn - they're the ones who have neck braces!"

It was actually nicer this time than in July. Still hordes of tourists, but not nearly as many as in July. And can I just say, I saw very few Italians. Maybe Dusty Bin and H R Christer scared them off!

I'm afraid this isn't going to be a true report, because on this, my 4th trip to Tallinn in a year, I actually never paid for it! (I know, its shocking, isn't it). As a matter of fact I met a nice divorced lady around my age (late 30's) and ended up spending 3 nights with her. Fantastic time - Estonian girls seem very reserved in public, but boy, judging from this one, they are tigresses in bed.

However, my friends did partake of paid pleasures, and as announced in earlier posts, it is still quite easy to find P4P, even without houses. It just involves having local contacts. Estonia didn't just turn into a rich country overnight, and there are still thousands of beautiful girls available for what is, by Western European standards, a paltry sum.

Still, if you fancy a change, its worth hitting one of the bars in the Old Town and trying to strike up a conversation with a local Estonian or Russian girl. I'm studying Russian at the moment, and I have learnt some Estonian phrases, and its amazing how endearing speaking a little bit of either of these languages seems to make you to Estonian or Russian girls!

Nagameeste!/Do Svidania!

Come on people, let us talk about what we are supposed to talk in this forum and make the best use of it.

It dosen't matter what lingo we speak and how we speak, what matters is that we are all hunting for the same thing and that makes us a community in itself.

Never been to Tallinn, but happen to do some business there, so may be in future it is my travel destination. Just curious to know if the quality of girls in Tallinn similar to what we get to see in a place like Moscow?

Cheers.

Women are women everywhere. There are attractive ones and ugly ones.

That said, during Soviet times, Estonianwomenhad the reputtion of being the most attractive in the Soviet Union and if you like Russian girls, well, Russians comprise half the population of Tallinn.

Dusty, thanks for your reply. Ya for sure I love Russian women, they are ever so gorgeous and sexy and the best part is that they love sex.... makes it even better for us.

After reading your post I am anxious to visit Estonia, I hope that it happens sometime soon in future.

Cheers.

I have recently returned from the Baltics and thought I would post some details of my trip as 'pay back' for all the valuable information obtained from the WSG site.

Firstly, I would publicly like to thank Dusty Bin for all the information provided by him prior to this trip to Tallinn, and also my earlier visits this year to Helsinki and Tallinn. He was very patient in answering my numerous and at times 'stupid questions'. We met up 3 times during my visit for a drink and visits to Cafe Amigo, Bonnie and Clyde e.t.c.

I did notice a lot of Italians in both Tallinn and Riga. This is probably due to 2 factors. Cheap flights and peak holiday season in Italy.

Without wishing to 'stoke up the embers' of the previous posts, my impression of the local attitudes to all the visiting tourisits, regardless of nationality, is that in the main 'money talks'. He/She who spends it freely is most warmly welcomed, those that do not, get the 'cold shoulder'. Unfortunately a large number falling within the category of not spending did appear to be Italian men. Not all I hasten to add, but those generaly falling within the under 30 age group. They were easily recognisable in the nightclubs and bars having sunglasses perched upon their heads, sweaters or other woollens tied around their waists, and being in groups of 5+ .

Back to the matter in hand. My trip was mainly work with as much play as I could fit in. I followed the advice of Dusty and other members of this board and obtained an apartment rather than a hotel for my stay. This not only worked out significantly cheaper, but allowed the hobby to be pursued without undue questions being asked by hotel staff. The apartment was arranged via the RED Group (www.redgroup.ee). It was located within a few minutes walk of the Radisson Hotel and Stockmans Depatmental store. The cost was 62 Euro per night for a one double bedroom apartment, including being picked up from the airport.

My first night entailed meeting a colleague for a few drinks at Molloy Malones in the market square. I left there some time after midnight and went to the Cafe Amigo with him. The Amigo was quieter than I was expecting. By the time my colleague departed it was almost 3:00 a.m. and there were slim pickings. I was reasonably drunk due to not having eaten much but consuming plenty of booze. I was determined not to leave alone on my first night. I left with a 40+ year old blond about 4.5, who's name I cannot remember. She wanted 60Euro (900EEK) for S/T, but eventually settled for 50 Euro for a double. Service was OK. First time was BBJ followed by FS in missionary and cowgirl. Second time was BBJ and doggie. By this time it was 06:00 and I booted her out as I needed my sleep. Her request for additional Taxi money was just ignored.

The second day had me feeling very tired and hungover after the previous day/nights weary travelling, working, drinking and sex. I was working in the apartment and making a lot of phone calls. I am really pleased I acted on Dusty Bin's suggestion of getting a local SIM card for my cell phone and not using international roaming. My previous trip had run up a 150 Euro cell phone bill during a 6 day visit. I got a local SIM for 10 Euro including 7 Euro call credit. I topped this up with 13 Euro and I still have credit left.

During the start of the afternoon I was feeling horny again. I knew it would be difficult to leave the apartment due to awaiting a courier arrival, so I decided to order in. I had done some research on the net prior to my arrival and had some local phone numbers. I tried a few and they were very relectant to visit. I managed to contact Svetlana, who's details I had obtained from the Sihteeriopisto site. I arranged a time but she did not turn up. I received a phone call saying she was runing 15 mins late. I waited and waited, but nothing. I telephoned her and she said she was about to get in Taxi. I told her not to bother as it was more than an hour after the agreed time.

I got my old copy of 'Tallinn this week' and had a look at the section dealing with massage. I phoned Laguna massage +372 581 13825. I was asked my requirements and they said they would send 3 girls over in 40 mins for me to take my pick. 40 mins later I received a phone call asking me to meet the 'boss' downstairs outside the building. I was escorted to the car where I picked a 23 year old black haired Russian girl. I payed him the agreed fee of 800EEK for 1 hour. (Cost is 600EEK when an incall) The 'boss' gave me his direct cell phone number and said he would be more than happy to be of service in the future. I gave the girl a drink, switched off the phone and adjorned to the bedroom. The girl was a 5-5.5. BJ and FS in 3 positions followed. The service was satisfactory but nothing special, but frankly I did not care. My only concern at that stage was to 'empty my sack'. I gave her a 50EEK tip to hasten her departure as I was still awaiting for my courier delivery. Luckly this arrived 10 mins after she had departed. I finished my work and then started to get ready for the evening out

I met Dusty Bin in Molloy Malones as arranged. We had a few beers and a fairly wide ranging conversation regarding the local mongering scene and the changes since Estonia joined the EU and future developments. Dusty suggested an Argentinian Resteraunt for dinner. I was more than happy to go along with his suggestion. The food was good and very good value price wise. During the meal the resteraunt had a Latin floor show. Dusty stated the dancers were provided from the same organisation which provides the cabaret for one of the 'clubs'. I think it may have been Galaxy.

After the meal we went to Bonnie and Clydes at the Reval Olympic Hotel. The club had some stunnigly attractive girls, but they were aware of this fact and it was obvious they were only there 'to be seen'. A number of older women started to drift in but it these were working. After a few drinks we decided to carry on to Cafe Amigo. The Amigo was reasonably busy for a Friday night with its usual mix of an older clientele than B&C. There were working girls, semi working girls, and I am sure some amateurs. The problem was trying to sift the amateurs from the others.

Not long after our arrival we met up with Dusty's current lady and a friend of hers called Irina. She looked about 30 years old, had brunette shoulder length hair and a slim figure, but with curves in the right places. I started talking to Irina who seemed interested. Dusty and his lady departed at about 02:30. I bought Irina a drink and everything appered to be going OK. I asked after a short time if she would like another. She requested a coffee. I said "you can have a coffee here or I could make you one back at my apartment". She looked at me in a strange way, muttered something under her breath, which I did not hear, and said she wanted a coffee here. This I bought her. By this time it was approaching 04:00 and I was dead on my feet. I needed to get to bed. I was interested in meeting Irina in the future as there was something about her which even in my tired state strongly appealed to me, but I did not wish to appear too eager (Big mistake), so I made my appoligies and left, knowing full well I could get her phone number from Dusty's lady.

I spoke to Dusty the next afternoon to get the phone number. He told me she was very interested in meeting up again. When I told him of the previous evenings events, he told me I had made a huge mistake. Irina being of Russian stock and used to Russian men did not understand the underlying message of 'a coffee at my place'. I was told I should have been much more direct; along the lines of 'do you want to come back to my place for sex'. I have explained this in detail to highlight the difference in attitudes and expectations between what we are used to in Western Europe and North America and elsewhere. I know this is a case of being wise after the event, but I hope other mongers benefit from using the local direct approach.

(more to follow)

REQUEST info for hotels: is either of these hotels a good choice? L'Ermitage or Uniquestay. If not, any other advice (except www.redgroup.ee, already mentioned?).

Thanks a lot

Well on the morning of my third day in Tallinn I managed to get out of bed at 10:00 am. I was feeling better than I had been for a number of days. I did a little shopping for the essentials, beer, phone card, vodka, fruit juice and spare condoms. By this time it was approaching 12:00pm. As most of the afternoon and early evening was free I decided to grab some food and do some sight seeing.

I went to the market square and sat outside Mollys for a beer and some breakfast/brunch. I decided to sit outside in order to allow my wandering eyes to look over the local sights, by which I am referring to the women. Unfortunately at this time of day most of these appeared to be tourists wearing anoraks, as rain was expected, and not locals.

I spent the afternoon snapping away with my camera. I went into a couple of bars (Nimeeta & the one next to it) during the showers to get out of the rain and to see what was happening. Unfortunately the clientele was mainly Brits on stag parties drinking and watching the soccer.

I headed over to the Radisson rooftop bar to catch the view and to see if there was any action. Unfortunately not. After a quick beer with Dusty and his lady I went back to the apartment to grab a nap and to get ready for the evening.

I met up with my colleague and we had a few beers in a number of places but unfortunately he was a bit difficult to shake off - a bit like a limpet. I was anxious to visit places where the ladies were, but he just wanted to drink and talk me to death about his hassles with his girlfriend. I eventually said I was going back to the apartment. He grabbed a taxi and as soon as it was out of sight I changed direction and headed to the Amigo.

It was 01:00 when I paid my 100EEK and walked into the Amigo. The place was busy even for a weekend. The Finns were out in force. I grabbed a drink and then stood by the back of the bar on the elevated level to have a good scout. I was trying to work out which were the amateurs and which were the WGs. I was having difficulty distinguishing between the Estonian and Finnish woman. The Russian women were easy to identify - they were the ones with pointy shoes and had Tits ! The ratio of women to men was not very good in comparison to other weekends.

I approached and spoke to an Estonian woman (7) mid 20s for about 10 mins. Things appeared to be progressing well. I was about to offer to buy her a drink when her bloody boyfriend turned up . I wished them a good night and moved over to the bar.

Whilst at the bar a number of women were making eye contact, but I recognised them from previous visits as ones who were 'serial drink scroungers', who disappear as soon as you buy them a drink.

I wondered round for a while looking for my next target. I spotted my victim and approached. She was a Finnish women (5.5 - 6) mid 30s. I spent the next 20 - 30 mins talking the usual rubbish, but did not get to far. It soon became apparent that she and her fiends were not for up for any male company that night, but were there to get completely drunk.

It was at his stage a spotted a young blonde in her early 20s wearing a red T-shirt. I thought initially she was a (6), but on closer viewing her skin complexion let her down and she was no better than (4.5). After speaking to her for a few minutes it became apparent she was working and was either drunk wired or both. I wasn't sure whether she was a semi or full pro. I said I was in the market. It was too noisy and crowded to talk so we went outside. She asked me to leave first as she did not want us to go out together. I found this slightly strange until I found out subsequently that security at the Amigo expect to receive something (money) from the local women who leave with a man, but do not arrive with one. Outside the Amigo I got a better look at the girl. Yes her face may have been a 4.5 but she had a nice little body on her. She agreed to 500EEK for a double, which was a little surprising, and we headed to the apartment.

I got her a drink and made her a sandwich whilst she was in the shower. She came out wrapped in a towel and we proceeded to the bedroom. I was disappointed when she removed the towel. She had a very nice body (6.5). Just about the right amount of meat on the bones not too much and not too little. Tits about 34C. Round one consisted of a very good BBJ followed by F/S cowgirl and mish. At this stage she appeared to be getting dressed to go. I asked her what she was doing. She had agreed a double for the price. She said her boyfriend (pimp?) was waiting. I thought oh shit this is all I need some irate man kicking the door in. I put the key in the lock and said I am not stopping you leaving, but I repeated she had agreed the price. She said the money was too little. On reflection I did think at the time it was a little light, so I said I would giver her a tip. She made a call and came back to the bed. Round 2 was BBJ mish and doggie. I paid her an extra 70 or 80 EEk and said that was all I had.

If it wasn't for the fact she had a boyfriend/pimp somewhere and the attempt to renege on the agreed deal I would have quite happily seen her again !!

The morning of my fourth and last full day commenced at 11:00 hrs about 4 hours after getting to bed. I had a meeting and working afternoon planned. Work was boring so I will skip the details. Had a nice late lunch in Pirita in a restaurant on the shore. The design of the place was similar to the hull of an upside down ship.

Met up with Dusty Bin and we went to the main square. Had some drinks and some food before going to Amigos. I was intending my last night in Tallinn not to be a very late one. The Amigo was quiet for a Sunday. I was expecting it to be busier but I could not be bothered to go elsewhere. Few local females were out.

I spotted a dark haired beauty sitting in the corner who appeared a likely prospect. Unfortunately she was approached by one of the Italian boys before I could make my move and he spent the next 45 mins talking to her. Dusty and myself went over to 2 blondes in the late 30s. When we tried to engage them in conversation they said they did not speak English.

Whilst back at the bar we saw 2 dark haired women arrive one was slim 30 - 35 the other with a great visible rack, appeared 35 -40. We started talking to them and things were going great guns. They disappeared to the toilets. We were waiting for them to return but nothing. Very strange both Dusty and myself looked at each other and said ‘that’s not happened to me before’.

The dark haired beauty seen earlier was on her own at this stage so I went over to her. Dusty said his goodbyes and departed. I am afraid it was a no go. Natalie made it plain she was off home very shortly, not up for a one nighter but was looking for a long term boyfriend. I took her phone number. You never know when it might come in handy!

I left the Amigo about 1/2 hour after Dusty. Outside about 100 meters from the Viru heading towards the old town, I was asked for a light by a black haired girl in her early to mid 20s, who said she was from the Ukraine (about a 5.5). She struck up a conversation, asked if I was interested in sex, but insisted she was not a pro. She said that it would normally cost 1000 EKK in a flat. I said no to this and was about to pitch a very low figure to see if she would bite, when our 2 friends who vanished from the Amigo appeared. The ones that disappeared. The thin one with the better English, Irinia, said she had to go back home as her baby sitter had called. She said she had a 5 year old daughter. To cut a long story short, after some negotiation, the one with the bid tits, Elena, came back to the apartment for 800EKK L/T.

Round One started when I joined her taking a shower. Shower gel and hands were exploring everywhere. BBJ under the running water followed by F/S doggie still in the shower.

Round Two in the bedroom. More BBJ and cowgirl. Round Three after a suitable rest was BBJ and doggie. By this stage I was fucked out and bone dry. I have to say she was one of the best fucks I have had for a very long time. It just proves my point that 30+ women are the best. They have generally ‘been around the block’ and know how to please. I paid her and got her phone number. When I told her a few of my friends would be interested in meeting her. She said she was happy for her phone number to be passed to them.

If anyone requires her number please PM me and I will oblige.

I am still trying to work out Elena and Irina. I think they were just a couple of amateurs who required some extra cash. I went to bed at 06:00 hrs, so much for my early night.

I left Tallinn a few hours later to go to another Baltic destination with a very satisfied smile on my face and vow to return as quickly as work and funds would allow.

I hope this and the previous report is not too long and boring and can be of assistance to some other fellow monger.

I have just been chompin at the bit to post this. I have never been to Talin ( although it is on my short list for a number of reasons ) and I actually live in Cancun, Mexico.

The reason for this post is to tell you that everything that has recently been said about the Italians is 100% true here too! They must be the same the world over. They have virutally no respect for the girls or for that matter for the guys they are with. Any one who disagrees is simply delusional or has never seen it first hand. If they act there like they do here, any beatings the Russian or Estonian boys lay on them is well deserved.

great report so far jake.... finally not some crap about which tourists are the worst, rather some action...

my latest adventure, i had some time off last friday, so drove out to pirita. went to club 4 (mannimae 4) - at about 1pm. doors were open so wandered in. one pretty hot bird watching tv. asked where the other girls were "its sleep time!"

she tried to sting me for 100 euro - but told here i had driven and always get better prices - how much she asked - i just told her 800eeks. no problems.

wasn't exactly gfe experience, no kissing, fingering or dinning, but she had a fantastic body and it was a very energtic time spent together. quick shower and sauna afterwoods and then headed off.

overall
looks: 8
body: 10
gfe: 4

not bad for a friday arvo, but i dont think i got my whole hour - rather when i was finished i was finished. its one thing, i must admit, with the apartments (well minimal number of them around now), you get good massage and 1 or 2 sessions in your hr.

one things for sure, if you know the game, you can see how much people can be ripped off. especially if they're pissed and going to these houses in a taxi.

tiger.

Ranskalainen,

When doing my research prior to my visits to Tallinn I looked at a number of hotels.

The Uniquestay was amongst the cheapest prices quoted for hotels but was too far out of the centre for my taste. I think the same applied to L'Ermitage.

I noticed the prices quoted for apartments reduced in either September or October, due to the end of the tourist season. Personally I would recommend an apartment very strongly having experienced both hotel and apartment stays. Some, if not most, hotels insist on booking in any 'extra' visitors spending the night. ID will be required by them to do this -can be very off putting and embarassing.

If you are looking for a hotel in particular, what are your main considerations ? Price ? Location ? Facilities ?

Besides the Red Group, other main companies dealing with apartment rental are Erel (www.erel.ee) and Cassandra (http://www.cassandra-apartments.com)

Attached is the address for apartments in Tallinn (Hope it works)

www.visitestonia.com/index.php?page=9&action=show_search&database=5&search=true&text=&region=1&county=0&type=25&lk=2&&lk=0


Tiger,

When looking at the girls listed on the Sihteeriopisto site for Tallinn, I found a large number based in Pirita. Any particular reason for this ?

Jake

Hello!
For one year ago there where a lot of apartments around Tallinn for quick and cheap sex. This where budget-places where an hour with a lady costed 500 eek. Many of them are gone, but is there any left? And how are the prices now?

Hello!

I'm going in TAllinn for an holidays and I would like to meet a nice girl for spend beautiful days together: Somebody can say me something about that? Somebody can recomand me a girl already meet? please let me know her name or let me know right places for find a girl in Tallinn.

Thank you

Hi,

I was in lesika a month ago and had 1 hour with an Estonian girl in the mid 20's, she was about 8 allover . She told me that it was her first time there and that most of the other girl where from rusia. Normally she worked in a place called something like max or mox. So if I wanted to meet here again I should not go to Lesika but Max. Does anybody know where Max is.

Paul

Well, autumn is here and schools have started. And it has brought action into "sponsorship scene". I have been looking for girls to offer short or long term (per night basis or monthly support) sponsorship, mostly from chat rooms.

For short term sponsorship story has been usually me plus some friends having party, where girl(s) are needed. Boys of course pay for drinks, snacks, tickets etc. It is very important not to start by talking of buying sex. Girls will understand the need of having sex anyway.

Since best target group is girls who have just moved away from home (need for financial support), age group is perfect, 18 to 21.

Girls feel this kind of "partying" interesting, usually they would do it anyway, but lack of funds makes them sit at home most of the weekends. Parties that involve having sex with new partners are common for these girls, and most services boys are looking for, including BBBJ are available almost without exception.

Long term sponsorship brings the cost of one night down, but requires long term interest and support reaching to the level of usual monthly salary (of student girl working in a bar/shop, not doctor). Solution is quite comfortable for both girl and boy, just probably unsuitable for most of first time tourists. Anyway tourists are not usually very interesting for amateur girls, since they can't provide longer term relationship (even it would be just sex and money exchanged). For tourist it is extremely important to have very good story (even better of course if it is true or close to true) of doing business in Estonia, investing to property, having local contacts and/or knowledge of local habits/history/society/language.

Girls can and will ask some questions about motives/wishes like: "why you pay for sex, can't you get it without money", "what I have to do for you / what you expect from me", "are you married / how can you cheat your wife", "are you just looking for sex", "have you done this before", "how much I will get". Is it best to have some answers ready.

May I bring two examples:

Short term sponsorship, 19yo, Tartu.

I was writing (mostly emails) with a girl from Tartu, studying last year in high school. She describe herself quite pretty, but not totally slim. Did not go to details (amounts, time spend etc) before meeting in person (usually wise thing).

Met her about two weeks ago with my friend Tuesday night. She agreed to come to our place for the night, have sex with both of us, only requirement being we would drop her to the school in the morning. On the way to our place we agreed on the amount.

Night started with some talking on the sofa, drinks and some snacks too. Rambo played some guitar and quite quickly she was naked between us, getting some massage. I felt the need to wash some private parts and the time I got back, Rambo was experiencing BBBJ. We changed and he continued with fingers, not just limiting to the first hole. The blow job I was experiencing was one of the best deep throats I have ever had. The same service attitude continued, all holes were in use, with circulation, and no matter in which order. These naughty games lasted until 5am.

Long term sponsorship, 19yo, Tallinn.

I first met this girl, coming from Tartu area, about one month ago. Slim, perfect ass, nice tits, beautiful face. The first time I had my fingers in her pants, discovering a very well shaved peach model, I knew, this was the perfect pussy I have been looking for years.

She came to Tallinn this autumn to start in University, had problems to find apartment etc. First 3-4 meetings were just watching films, talking, and looking for apartment and so on. She seemed quite inexperienced, very shy, didn't want to go through all things the first time.

Something interesting happened on 5th visit, started with listening Chris Isaak's Wicked Game on sofa, touching, kissing, headed for bedroom, played some finger games, drove her back to home for the rest of the night.

Sixth visit was first full night, mostly practicing tongue/language skills. She proved to be quite unexperienced, was her very first round of 69.

Street walkers in the old town heading up to the main square on an extremely quiet Sunday night. I looked and they said hello and the subject quickly came up but was extremely tired after three nights of heavy partying so declined.

What happened to the Avenue 24 hour bar? On Thursday I thought it was a gay bar at 3:00am. There used to be some action in there late and at least some non-pros to talk to.

There was an obvious pro in Bonnie and Clydes late Thursday but she wasn't very pretty. It was quiet in there too.

Found a great underground bar, that had no sign and most people would walk past, playing Britpop, by talking to two girls crossing the road outside the old town on the port side. It was at the junction of Olvimagi and Vene or Olevimagi and Uus, down some stairs guarded by a wall. This is a weekend place, was dead on Sunday and Monday. Went on to at least 6:00am. My friend had one of the girls who told us about it in tears after one date!

Venus on a friday seemed to be full of English and Italian guys and Estonian girls. Tried to pull the six foot blonde but was too drunk to have much chance or even a conversation!

Tallinn was a lot quieter than my previous visits in June and July in the last two years. Found it very difficult even to talk to someone in English, it used to be so easy!

Made my first trips to Tallin and Riga back in 97, and was in both places again in 2003, and the change is huge.

In 97 these countries were Pussy heaven, because there were so few tourists and the local people were much poorer than now, and the local women really wanted to meet foreign guys.

Now days, the women in these places have a very similar attitude to the women in the west.

Goldfinger and Fred Mercury

What have i been telling? Tallinn is d.e.s.t.r.o.y.e.d.
The changes has been enormous only the last year. To much single-man-tourism from Italy and Britain who anoy the local girls, plus better economy, has made this former pussy-heaven into a normal "western" city. Even many of the houses is closed down! I have as told in previous posts visited Tallinn for the last time, and are using my money elsewhere. There are still places who are pussyheaven - but not in Estonia.
chr.

I wish to lay down some guidelines to those of you who have never been to Tallinn.

From the private messages I have been receiving lately, I think many have been misguided.

1) First of all, Tallinn is no sexual playgroung. If you want a sex holiday go Thailand or Brasil.


2) Regulars are as hard to get as any other European Country. Estonia is no third world country, with hungry people on its streets and girls only too willing to spend the night with a foreigner for a small tip. Chances are, if you aren't getting a date every time you go clubbing in your home country, you aren't going to take a girl to bed the first night you arrive in Tallinn and keep her for the week or the duration of your stay.

3) *****s where probably non-existant in every single night club I visited, except one nightclub which was really a disguised *****-house. In fact it had rooms on the first floor and a reception where one pays for such services. So, forget about the South East Asia style where you find girls in bars willing to spend the night with you in return for a few bank notes.

4) There are a number of apartments where you ring the bell, are let in, and welcomed into a kind of sitting room. Soon after, a couple of girls come over. You choose your pick, pay for an hour or half hour, and are led to a room where you can fuck to your hearts content. You will find such addresses on the forum. (Forgot the addresses but I picked them up from the forum myself).

Conclusion: Unless you're some kind of gigolo, that type of person who manages to land a girl everytime he's out in his hometown, or else unless you're extremely lucky, you won't get laid by regulars in Estonia. The other option is *****s, *****s, *****s, which you will find for the usual one hour service, if you know where to look. GFE or not depends on the individual *****. Sorry for disappointing a few of you but that's my opinion from my one week long holiday a year ago.

Happy hunting!!

Had a first mature (40-ish) lady, found on an Estonian dating site, and looking for some sponsoring. Look was average (or less), and conversation was difficult (she spoke no English, her and my German are limited). Although she was asking for sponsoring (entirely left to my discretion), I still had to ask more or less explicitly (luckily, I remembered someone mentioning this previously on the list). But once we got started, she was hot. No talking required anymore, we went on with business. She accepted to cuddle a lot whilst standing, then let me proceed and bring her to multiple and very strong orgasms, of such strength I had never experienced.

After that, I went to the old city for eating something, and was propositioned by a streetwalker. She would not make an appointment for the next day. But now I had realised that there are streetwalkers. Their trick to initiate a contact is apparently to ask for a cigarette or a light.

Next day, I should have met an Estonian girl met professionally a few days before, but she cancelled on the last minute. I was thus alone. Since it was my last day, I had to go to bed not too late. I did not have to walk long in the streets between Viru and Raekoja to find Anna, an 8+ aged about 20 (from the story of her life) with nice B cup size breasts (and a tattoo on one arm). She explained that she still lived with her parents, and asked 50 EUR or 750 EEK. I agreed and we went to the sauna of my hotel (no questions asked) for an hour and a half of sauna, jacuzzi and of course fun. No French kissing, BJ with, average performance.

Tallinn may no longer be what it was, my small sampling shows that it is still an interesting place to visit. Perhaps even worth crossing over from Helsinki (one of my more usual destinations)!

Cheer Up Compadres!

I'd like to finally contribute to this amazing community which has at times taken over my life. Sometimes I get the feeling it's all ANYONE ever thinks about, is she a ho?. As long as I know I'm not alone out there.

Back to the board in regards to what is being said about Tallin.

I was there for a 5 day visit in winter 2002. My only response to recent comments is DON'T be discouraged guys.

First of all, Tallin is an aesthetically gorgeous fairy tale city, yet unspoiled by mass tourism thus still relatively cheap, Saku is great beer and flows freely throughout the city and the P4P apartment scene was vibrant, eclectic, and easy to navigate thanks to WSG. And the non-pro scene is there for the taking.

So, relax, step away from the edge and breathe a sigh of relief.

My visit:

I stayed in one of those stanky backpacker hostel types Vana Tom. I had a private room and the young ladies working the front desk had no problem at all with visitors. They require overnight guests to sign in with a passport, however this policy was loosely enforced I later discovered.

I spent most of my days checking out Tallin.

At night I hung out at pubs, clubs and visited a number of apartments. I hit 3 different apartments during my stay...all great fun.

Meeting a regular Estonian girl as it turned out wasn't so difficult. On my third night I visited Mr. Robinson's club, i know what you're going to say "That's a Russian club". I assure you this was an Estonian girl, she made it abundantly clear.

Anyway, I sat down, had a couple of drinks while I watched the girls dance to awful euro techno. Two girls asked if they could sit with me, an 8 (blondie blue eyed, said she was 18) and a 4. I made sure I scooted over towards the 8 and we connected. I bought them a few rounds of drinks and we hung out the rest of the night, we shot pool upstairs. We ended up at a 24 hr. bar, by 10am I went to sleep and sent the girls on their way.

Later that night these girls came back to my room at 8pm. We went to a pub until it closed, I managed to get rid of her friend the 4 and went back to my room and she spent the night with me. She was young, very tight, up for 3 rounds and very quiet. Vana Tom is not very private, perhaps that's why.

The hard part was getting rid of her the next morning. That's life boys.

Don't believe the hype!

Thanks Jackson

Papa Wheelie

Take a new trip to Tallinn now late 2004.
I guess your report and view on Tallinn will be different, MUCH different from what you experienced two years ago...

But be my guest: pm me for knowledge about the new mongerplaces. It's just not in Tallinn.
chr

Patata chips
eh...i did not quit understand you - because of bad english.

BUT: read my former messages. I dont live in Tallinn, and as i have said many times: i dont go there anymore, so i do NOT try to keep a "heaven" for myself.
Tallinn AND Estonia is just not like it used to be. And one of many reasons are your fellow countrymen, patata Chips..

So i cant help you with other places in Estonia either. There arent any easy pussy-places there anymore. Its a hit and miss, just like in the west. But you could try Narva - the poorest city - but you HAVE to talk russian since 96 % is russianspeaking - and only that.

I'm sorry!

My advise to you is to forget about the baltic states and go further south where the economy still are bad, where the EU still is just a dream and where the tourists are rare.

chr.

I don't think at all that Tallinn is destroyed or ruined.

Of course it is not the same than 5 or 10 years ago, but it shouldn't even be. Economical growth, together with rapid increase of salaries and prices has of course changed pussy scene, both amateur and professional. After all, it is not separate part of the society, on the contrary the changes with prostitution (forms, availability, prices) reflects the changes in society. And is this bad? Surely not. I am very sure Tallinn is much nicer place for tourist now than 10 years ago. There are lots of fancy restaurants, comfortable hotels, usable public services, trustworthy legal system. And available pussy haven't disappeared anywhere.

We should not compare Estonia, now member of European Union, to third world countries, or even Russia.

Even the pressure from the press towards politics and police is strong, there are still few working houses, brothels, totally non-existing in the most of neighbouring countries. For one time tourists the availability should be quite ok and prices not too high. Striptease clubs preferred by some are, both quantity and quality, much nicer than in Helsinki for example.

For those, who come here more often, maybe because of business, there are more practical solutions. With some prior research over the net and/or local contacts it is quite easy to find girls who are ready to entertain guys in hotel rooms or private apartments.

Those who have stayed here longer and have learned local language(s) knows it is quite easy to get regular girls to spend some quality time in the bed for reasonable compensation. Not easy for tourists, but hey, can you do that at home either?

For most visitors, many of them coming from Scandinavia and UK, Tallinn offers fresh air and possibilities to do things that would be either too difficult or too expensive at home.

Tallinn seems to be also popular place to have business meetings, company ( now before Christmas) and stag parties, with reason, things like food, drinks, accommodation, transportation and conference services are much cheaper here. Girls and many other activities also available. There are not so many places nearby where you can go to shoot with assault rifles and have naked girl offering champagne (even it would be the cheap "Russian" sparkling wine) while driving with Hummer.

Some writes here seams to have unrealistic hopes, they would just want to take cheap flight here, walk to nearest bar, pick up beautiful girl and fuck her for free for next 4 days in row. Sorry, not possible.

Of course Tallinn, like any other place, loses some charm after 5 or 10 visits, new place has always "that something". Picking up place for weekend fun is always a compromise, but I am quite sure Tallinn is still one of the good places to visit in this part of the world.

Max

Cheap Flights now available to Tallinn from UK.

From 31 October easyjet start a route from Stanstead to Tallinn. This is fantasic news for UK punters. Myself and some friends went for a stag in July and had a good time with girls , drinking and casino but were not immpressed with the local airline.

Hopefully there will be as much of my countrymen as Finns on our next visit around Xmas.

I agree with everything Maximus has said. Yes, things have changed in Tallinn, even in the short time since I went there August 03 to this summer, but it's still one of the most charming places I've been to (and I have lived on 4 continents). There's still opportunities for picking up girls, paid or non-paid, you just have to be a bit more adventurous and try and make contacts or go outside the Old Town a bit. I went in July and August this year, and I'm going again this weekend. Yes, you can come across like an arsehole foreigner, but it's amazing how if you know a few Estonian words or a little bit about the country and its history, people quickly perceive you as different from the "sex-tourist/stag party foreigner." Learn a few words! "Tere". "Ilus". "Palun". "Tanun". They really make a difference.

Max also talked about the opportunities if you speak the local language. Well, he is talking about Estonian, but remember Tallinn is 50% Russian speakers, and I have taken about 35 hours of Russian (slightly more useful to know on a global scale); and (with Russian speaking dyevs) it's amazing how cute they think you are when you speak it, or try to speak it. Honestly, there are opportunities there (even if SOME girls throw drinks in your face). If you can come across as a sincere, normal guy who doesn't automatically assume every girl he talks to is a pro, you probably have a better chance than with girls in many Western European capitals.

Also, yes, Tallinn is not Ukraine or Romania, but let's face it, the average yearly salary is what, £4800? Your money still goes a loooooong way, if you're willing to splash out a little and you're not going to be counting every penny. I took a girl to an Azeri restaurant in the centre of town, and for 2 main courses with a bottle of wine, it came to slightly over £12. Not very "kallis"!

Just my thoughts. Nagemeeste!

[QUOTE=Patata Chips]
If I go to estonia sure I try Narva, my frend say go only where the people need to eat. Good luck[/QUOTE]

Now that I find really uncomfortable. I read those words and they made my flesh creep.

Originally Posted by Patata Chips:

If I go to estonia sure I try Narva, my frend say go only where the people need to eat. Good luck

Dusty,

I completley agree. I find the statement and the sentiments distastefull and repugnant.

Jake

Boys, Narva is not the poorest (metered by average salary) city, nor Ida-Virumaa county the poorest county, not even close.

No girl from the street will give ass to get food, not in Narva or anywhere else in Estonia.

Reasons for Narva visit should be something else. Art68 might tell about his experiences.

Max

No good trying to justify after the fact.
As far as I am concerned, if I pay for sex, it is with somebody who has a choice. Possibly from a limited palette of choices, but choice none the less. You clearly wrote:

'If I go to estonia sure I try Narva, my frend say go only where the people need to eat. Good luck'

That says that you are seeking women who have to fuck to eat. Who are otherwise going to starve.
A very different and shameful thing to say, notwithstanding what it says about you, as a person who is so poor that you have to stoop so low and so lacking in self respect that you feel this is acceptable to you...

Whether the people in Narva are this poor or not is not germane, it is the sick attitude that the poster displayed that is.

Actually Maximus, average income levels in Ida-Viru county ARE the lowest in the country at just 73% of the national average. It is one reason why so many girls come to Tallinn from the area.

[url]http://www.stat.ee/orb.aw?class=document&action=print&section=131396[/url]
That said, I am sure that there are places in Estonia where the average income is lower than Ida-Viru, but county, not so.

Dusty Bin,

just differnet way to read statistics. Average salary in Tallinn 2004 Q1 8419 eek, Ida-Virumaa 4 996 eek, four counties under it (Valga, Põlva, Võru and Jõgeva, lowest in Jõgeva 4803 eek). Average house hold size just bigger in Ida-Virumaa, lowering numbers statistics you refered showed. All the numbers also from [url]www.stat.ee[/url].

I didn't find numbers for Narva, but I remember it being close to 6000 eek per month. Thing of course is that in big cities salaries are higher (also house hold size smaller) and Narva is 3rd largest city in Estonia.

Also should remember that in rural areas big part of house hold income comes in cash lowering official numbers. In Tallinn there are many state institutions, big companies increasing the statistical average.

One thing also to remember, living costs in East Estonia are much lower than in Tallinn. So in the end, differences in standards of living are not so big than some numbers would first show.

Dear all,

Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to buy Viagra or Cialis OTC in Estonia?

I hope I post this message in the right thread.

Frenchie

apparently they have moved to

tartu mnt 51-26.

tiger.

Hi,

You can call +3725057173.

I paid 600 EEK for 4 pills and I felt like 20 again.


Kentmanni

well these guys used to be the original pronski 11/7 apartment and then moved to mere pst 8 - i know them quite well and they have always charged me 500/hr - but now i have my favourite girl there and they happyily deliver her to my apartment. she was telling me the other night that they had moved to tartu mnt now - but haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

btw getting very pissed off with the quality and service of the birds here - all the home delivery numbers bring at max (looking wise) 5-6/10 girls who are not really very interested. went to the red club on sat night late - got a session for 700 (as opposed to normal 1200), but again girl was uninterested and didn't want to be there. its shithouse, cause i have just had a month in russian and latvia - and every single girl was very energentic and made sure you enjoyed yourself thoroughly!

also haven't been very impressed with
[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=eng&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]

i have tried to call the love club many times ([url]http://www.redescort.com;[/url] +372 55 96 11 61) keep getting some guy on the phone who doesn't want to help.

what we need in tallinn/estonia is a page like

[url]http://zna.ru/[/url]

[url]http://www.escort.cz/v03/main.php?Lng=2&Edn=2&Sch=2[/url]

http://www.intimservis.lv/si/$en

where we can see the girls, get contact details (by email too), see photos and have the ability to send feedback about the girls for others to view.

tiger...

[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilas_tiedot.php?lang_so=eng&n=Kelly3&i=etukuva.jpg&city=Tallinn&land=EST[/url]

Not the least expensive, but well worth a call, especially if you want a little more than a quick jump!

She is busy, so it is worth calling before you arrive, if you are coming on a short trip.

BTW, the girls from redescort are all on [url]www.sihteeriopisto.net[/url], but not vice versa.

Viagra and Cialis are not available as OTC here. At least they should not be. WHy not go to the doctor and get a script?

dusty - so whats the best way to contact redescort? the guy on the phone (from the number provided) has been fair from responsive to my queries - maybe i shouldn't be asking in russain?

tiger

I hade a good experience from Narva mnt 14. Call +372 580 68 380. Ask for Katherine.

Pleace let me know if you like it.

Visitor

Ah, I see the problem, they use the same number on Secretary Academy and Red Wscort.

Well in that case, I guess they do not deserve your business...

I hade a nice experiense at Narva mnt 14. Call +372 580 68 380 and ask for Katherine. Price 600 EEK.

If you like it please let me know.

Visitor

Here is an alternative link to the Love Club, which I guess from the number given by Tiger8888 also goes by the name Red Escort:

[url]http://www.zone.ee/loveclub/esileht.htm[/url]

This place is also the Tuukri 26 hostel. My experience is mixed here. I had a really good time with a younger blond (can't remember the name, sorry) and a good time spoiled with a busty brunette named Marina. She gave great oral, but had some stank issues down below. I agree with the comments about the phone line. Service is less than helpful.

spot on guest - she was excellent...

tiger

Hey guys,

In Sunday's Observer (UK) there is a pretty big article about the influx of HIV into Estonia. According to the article, 1% of the population is HIV positive, which makes Estonia second only to Russia in percentage infected in the former USSR. The article goes on to say that the three reasons are promiscuity, drug use and poor government funding and communications.

Put that all together, and you've basically got the Russian population, who get the short end of the stick on all three of those. Since they make up the majority of the sex industry in Estonia, use 96% of the illicit drugs, and make up a third of the population, it would not be that much of a stretch to guess that the infection rate among Russians in Estonia is upwards of 3%.

Here's the article:

[url]http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1356052,00.html[/url]


AIDS GRIPS THE STAG PARTY'S FAVOURITE CITY

Teenage girls at most risk in Estonia's capital, Tallinn, as infection rates soar and cash for treatment stays scarce

Nick Paton Walsh in Tallinn
Sunday November 21, 2004

The Observer
A heroin user for most of his twenties, Yuri, 28, had been in prison for car theft near Tallinn, the capital of Estonia, for a year. When he came out he stayed clean, but only for six months. Then last week his life was torn apart when he found out he was HIV positive. He has yet to break the news to his 19-year-old girlfriend, Olga, with whom he has been having regular unprotected sex.

'I don't know how even to tell her about this,' Yuri told a health worker. 'I can't even go there.' He was shocked, because only one of the three other people he shared a drug spoon with was HIV positive, and this man always took his shot from the spoon last and they used different needles.

Yuri, who asked for his real name to be changed, has become a statistic in a health crisis that is threatening to envelop one of the European Union's newest members, a tiny Baltic state that became the EU's easternmost border last May. Estonia saw a massive rise in new HIV infections in 2000. Now an estimated 1 per cent of its 1.4 million population are HIV positive, one of the the highest rates in Europe.

Cheap flights and cheap alcohol bring thousands of holidaymakers and stag parties to Tallinn, a quaint city of cobbled streets which in the summer is full of young British men, now notorious here for their 'booze cruises'. This leads to a sexually charged atmosphere which may prove a key danger in the spread of the disease.

Nelli Kalikova, an MP and the former head of the city's anti-Aids centre, said the key problem in the next four years would be a spread of the virus among the heterosexual population.

The crisis has serious economic implications, not only for Estonia's tourism industry. Experts fear a strain on the economy in future as the country battles to treat an infected working population.

The number of new cases rose suddenly in 2000, although the rate has now slowed. But a different threat has emerged. The greatest rise in new cases is among young women aged between 15 and 19 - a trend ascribed by experts mainly to a young, sexually active population having unprotected sex.

They warn that those 15- to 24-year-olds who are newly infected now will, in 15 years' time, be Estonia's breadwinners. A government report last week warned last week that 2.3 per cent could be wiped off the country's economic worth by 2008.

Some say HIV-positive Estonians may use their visa privileges in the EU under the Schengen Convention - signed by Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Germany, Portugal and Spain , but not Britain - to seek better medical care in richer countries.

Ahead of World Aids Day next week, critics accuse the Estonian government of doing too little. Estonia ranks second in the former Soviet countries, behind Russia, for the highest number of newly reported HIV infections. But the entire government budget for Aids prevention and treatment is 10 million kroni a year - less than £500,000.

Irina Moroz, a doctor at an Aids centre in Tallinn, said: 'I was in Finland last week at a treatment centre with a budget of €3 million (£2.1m). That's nearly four times our entire national budget.'

Estonia's programmes are now subsidised by £6m from the Global Aids Fund, money not guaranteed for the future. The government, which critics say did virtually nothing from 1996 to 2002 while the disease was spreading, admits it must move fast to catch up.

Anneli Tall, its HIV/Aids specialist, admitted: 'We did not put enough effort in when HIV was among the risk groups like drug users.'

The priority now was to push the anti-Aids message in the education and health systems and the military.

Some HIV-positive Estonians are already looking overseas. 'Some of my patients are actively talking about going abroad to get better treatment,' said Moroz. 'These are women studying to be doctors or engineers, the skilled population of tomorrow.'

Julia, 34, who contracted HIV from a married man in August 2002, said: 'I do not know what the state is doing to help me as I have seen nothing.' She has a full-time job which gives her medical insurance that will pay for her drugs when she falls ill. 'I have not told my family about this [disease].

'Only three close friends know I am positive. I will tell my son, but only in the last few minutes of my life.'

In the streets and pubs of Tallinn the young tourists and locals show little knowledge of the prevalence of a virus that has Julia and so many others in its grip.

Monika Haartman, 22, an Estonian student sitting in the Scotland Yard pub last week, said: 'When it comes to HIV, most people always think that it's never going to happen to them.'

Dave Ford, 22, a sales rep from Kidderminster, walking down the main street on Friday afternoon, said: 'It was £40 on Easyjet to get here, the room's £20 and the women are gorgeous. One of our mates has pulled, but we're just mostly getting hammered.'

Yet Estonia's HIV crisis will not always remain out of sight. MP Kalikova said the HIV positive people 'are until now healthy and the problem remains invisible. You don't see someone dying of Aids every day. But that time will come soon.'

Play safe guys,

Shiva

The rate of discovery of new cases did tail off after 2001! What they did not say was that there has been little new infection since then.

The actual infection rate for HIV is actually 0.23% of the population. (as at 31st March 2003)

All other figures are confabulations based upon 'estimates' made assuming that the rate of discovery of infections would continue at the same rate as it did in 1999/2000, a time when there was a concerted effort, funded by WHO and the EU to uncover HIV in the population.

[url]http://www.afew.org/english/statistics/estonia.htm[/url]

Whilst nobody suggests that unprotected sex is a good thing, the decrease in the incidence of other STDs is a decent indicator that sexual transmission of HIV is not a huge issue, except for those whose incomes and livelihoods depend upon a growing HIV problem. It should be remembered that money received to deal with HIV/AIDS that is spent upon health care support for these people almost always has a positive impact on the health care service as a whole, in the recipient country. For this reason, there is a vested interest in maximising the appearance of HIV for which there is abundant 'free' money.
The same situation can be seen in Russia where HIV funding supports TB care. There is no doubt about the incidence of TB, the target groups are coincident and so money for one purpose goes to support another.

There is little risk of a sensible punter picking up HIV on a trip to Tallinn.

Hi guys,

I am going to Tallinn early next year and would like some good advice on clubs to vist in town.

Thanks,

Dave London

I had to go all the way back to fucking August to find any posts on prices and women. The more recent posts were the best. Thanks guys.

Then I read the posts further back on Italians and minority men. Dude, whoever is writing these posts writes like a fucking Mexican. Don't you know how to speak English if you are going to represent the blonde race.

Yes, it is sad that the fucking Britons ruined the local women and the alcoholic Finnish has imbued the local women with a sense of Western women attitude. But you are a still a fucking third world country. Maybe it is not obvious as Thailand, but everything is still for sale when you can "sponsor" a piece of ass from a college student at a university in Estonia.

The issue is that when you travel for 10 days, it is hard to (1) first find and (2) then develop a relationship with a non pro to get that piece of ass. Attitude or no attidude, white women who need money to pay their bills will still suck your dick. It just takes longer and you may have to kiss their ass and speak their language. I would suggest starting an email relationship before you visit the *****. Or just avoid the hassle altogether and go to Moscow.

As far as your discussion on politics and races, dude, you guys can't even write English fluently, and I am not even white. Are you guys, fucking Germans or someting? Because you write like Mexicans and talk like degos.

So how do Estonian non-pro women react to Asian, Latino, and Black men in general?

And what % of them speak English? They seem to be some of the hottest women around.

Rio nut,

I spent a few months in Estonia and Latvia, and had an Estonian girlfriend for 2 years.

I think many of the women are accepting to men from other races, often just out of curiousity as much as anything else.

Most women under 25 will speak some sort of english.

Black or Asian guys would want to be carefull, especially at walking around at night because some Russian men are very racist. Approx 50% of the population are Russian.

Look at post 373.

11-17-04

Visitor

Maximus was right : creating a "long-term" relationship pays off.

Mongering-wise, I planned my trip to Tallinn a long time in advance, and sent a few messages to ladies posting ads on two sites : [url]www.voodi.ee[/url] and [url]www.kodutud.com[/url]. The snag was, all the ads were in Estonian, so it was sheer guess, but with some practice, you end up guessing right.

So, I struck up a mail relationship with two ladies, one who was requesting eek1500 for the evening, and another one who did not request anything (yes, it happens).

The first one, Kriss, is a very lively young woman in her early thirties. Petite, short blond hair, big smile, enjoys champagne and candles (I did not have candles), very active in bed with a good knowhow. A semi-pro ? Anyway, she is afraid of diseases and will not accept CIM. But she will accept all the rest, with condom. I did not dare, and forgot to ask her to take a pic while in action. The one below is one she sent me.

The second one, Vita, may have been a pro, a long time ago. Early forties, petite, blond hair, quite reserved, not very beautiful, but a real bomb when she is ignited. she first pretended to have come on a misunderstanding, but eventually stayed and I had one of the best sex experiences in my life (I am not a Dr Skank, nor a Mangus Man, nor a Maximus, nor a roger Mellie, to name but a few) : straight sex, A-level, CIM, all in the space of 3 hours. I could not believe my body... What was unpleasant, though, was that she started getting emotional and embarrassed me, so I had to literally get rid of her in an ungentlemanly way. Is she merely a sex-starved widow, or is she after male expats for another life away from Estonia ? Anyway, a memorable experience !

One place to avoid : 26 Tuukri St. A rip-off joint offering second-rate sex to so-called Baltic beauties. I did not stay, but would have had to pay a good eek200 before having the chance of going upstairs with the lady of my choice (+ €90). I had many more contacts that I did not use for lack of time: I was there for work and my Estonian business partners had organized my stay so as to prevent me from being too much on my own. Little did they know how much I would have loved to be more on my own... Surely, fellow-mongers, you know what I am speaking about.

Thanks again to Tiger88888 and Maximus for their initial help.

Frenchie,

She's nice. Definitely in her thirties,but nice-looking. Anyway, Estonian women age quite well.

And yes, Maximus knows his shit!

Rio Nut,

I'm asian. In general, non-pro girls were open and cool to me from the receptionist at my hotel, girls in the shops to the girls in the pubs. Party girls generally party with whomever. If they find you interesting, then you'll be honored with the chance to hang out with them.

If you're boring, man you're just boring.

I would listen to Fred Mercury about the Russian men, though. The only incident you could consider harassment was at 6am at an all-night pub when a wanna-be gangsta mafia wuzz shorty got in my face and demanded I buy him and his comrades and their **** girlfriends a bottle of champagne. I refused and the cool non-pro girl I was with talked the situation down.

It's hard to generalize since I was hanging out with a couple of really cool russian guys that evening who bought us drinks all night and later breakfast.

I believe a more accurate estimate of the Russian population in Estonia is 28%. They can be easily avoided by going to the non-Russian pubs/clubs, but then that wouldn't be any fun now would it?

Does anyone know if the two Scandic Hotels in Tallinn are guest friendly?

I do not know of any hotels here that are not!

You may be asked to pay for an extra bed (in the order of 300eek) and to register your bride of the night, but hoteliers know why guys visit!

If you want discretion, rent an apartment. Girls will prefer it. Very nice apartments cost less than a mid price hotel and locations are very pleasant.

Yes, renting an apartment is the best solution to preserve the discretion of your activities... (See my post in General information).

A few minutes on the web will be enough for you to find the sites of a few companies offering apartments.

I have to agree with both Frenchie and Dusty Bin - an apartment should be your prefered option if at all possible.

I have been to Tallinn twice in the last eight months. The first time I stayed in a hotel, the Viru, and the second in an apartment. There was nothing wrong with the hotel, but the apartment was better suited to our "hobby", i.e. no need to book in guests or the danger of housekeeping interupting at the most inconvinient moments. The girls prefer accompanying you to your apartment rather than your hotel room. The cost of my stay in the apartment was approx. 60% of the cost of the hotel.

I´m soon visiting Tallinn. Could I have some good place to visit or telephone number to call?
Visitor

Hi friends,

I will go to Tallinn for business trip (first time in Estonia !). I will rent an own apartment for privacy reasons. Therefore I would be thankful if someone could give me updated information regarding my questions, because a lot of threads with hints were written long time ago.

Where can I find an updated list respectively phone numbers of private girls flats ? Is there a web page like escort.cz for Czech Republic ? Any recommendations ?

Are there any newspapers or magazines (like Annonce in CZ) where I can find ads ?

Any recommendations for overnights?

Is there a streetwalker area in Tallinn?

Thank you very much in advance guys.

Tom

Hi T.Stern,

Check out [url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilaat.php[/url]. It is a Finnish site. Click on Estonia on the map, and there you go.

The site is quite active nowadays. Many girls there work in clubs, as you'll get it when checking all the pics they are taken in the same place. you'll see the phone numbers on their posts. PM me if you need help with the language.

Masteroid

[QUOTE=Tom Stern]Hi friends,

I will go to Tallinn for business trip (first time in Estonia !). I will rent an own apartment for privacy reasons. Therefore I would be thankful if someone could give me updated information regarding my questions, because a lot of threads with hints were written long time ago.

Where can I find an updated list respectively phone numbers of private girls flats ? Is there a web page like escort.cz for Czech Republic ? Any recommendations ?

Are there any newspapers or magazines (like Annonce in CZ) where I can find ads ?

Any recommendations for overnights?

Is there a streetwalker area in Tallinn?

Thank you very much in advance guys.

Tom[/QUOTE]

Does anybody have any new info on Tallin.I am there for the first time on the above dates and would like to find preferably non pro types 18/22 yrs old. Who does'nt you probably think! LOL

Any info would be very much appreciated chaps.

I'd like to visit Tallinn sometime in the next few months, and would like to know some English speaking people who has some idea of where to go there or what to do. It'll be either pro, or picking up chicks. Preferably younger guys, as I'm in only my 20s myself. Drop me a PM :)

Went to Tallinn in May 2005. Called the number of a service:
[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]

The guy answered in English, told me I would be picked up in a private car. 80 Euros (a fortune here, equivalent of $1000 in US.) The driver, a nice guy, took me to two places.

The first place was called Mikado and was a little place, pretty well kept inside. There were a whole bunch of Russian girls there, mostly unattractive, and they were snickering at me in the corner, then trying to hustle me. Very unattractive.

I told the driver I was out of there, so then he took me to the Red Club. Similar in ambience to the first, maybe a bit nicer. Sat next to a blonde Russian bombshell (5-9 maybe) who kept on denying she was Russian "I'm Estonian!" when it was clear from her appearance and the fact that she kept speaking Russian that she was Russian. She wouldn't go to a room with me unless I bought her and her friend drinks (400 crowns, about 33 dollars.) That is an outrageous price even in the U.S. She later told me that she gets half of that. She was hot so I played along.

We went into the room after she had her drink, then a quick CBJ and very mechanical FS. We were done in a half hour. She asked me for payment. I told her that I would pay her when the entire hour was up. She told me that she doesn't do second cups, and in fact I offered to tip her extra but she said she couldn't take it, so we just sat there. She sighed a lot and really tried to act bored. Finally, I left, went into the sauna, and got dressed and left. There may be good local talent in Tallinn but I haven't seen it. It is mostly Russians trying to rip Westerners off.

Due to a window opening up in my itienary I am returning to Tallinn for a combination of business and some long neglected R & R after far too long a time away - well eight months to be exact. I finally managed to sort out my fravourite type of accommodation, an apartment, after many e-mails and phone calls.

I will be meeting up with Dusty Bin again and hope to report any worthwhile events or information obtained on this board. This board has been far to quiet since the start of the year.

It would be nice to meet up with some of the longstanding contributors to this and/or the Finland board. If anyone wants to meet up for a beer please PM me.

Regards

Jake

Malta Man,

I hope the woman in the photo you posted was a freebie. If not, how much did she pay you?

Zim ~ I think that you hit an unfortunate confluence of bad stuff and lack of knowledge. Thanks for telling us about it!

1) The page you referred to is simply an advertising service on behalf of girls and clubs. It would be interesting to note which of the adverts you responded to as I did not see any offering the service you mentioned.

2) 80 Euro is a lot of money for the service you were offered, almost any taxi driver will do the job for much, much less. The girls may well not have been laughing at you, just girls chatting together, often we tend to imagine the worst when we do not understand the language being used. They could have been laughing at you because they could see that the guy had dragged along another mug for their profit and pleasure. They would almost certainly know about your driver and his huge charges. In addition, if you took a girl, the club would also be passing him a commission of at least 24 Euro.

3) The US dollar has declined hugely over the last year or so. For Americans, Europe is no longer a cheap place. Have a chat with your glorious leader about that and start saving money rather than buying on credit. The prices you were charged for drinks were high, but not extortionate, in local terms, but for you, yes, they would seem expensive. In most cases, you can reckon on paying about 150 Kroons for a drink, bearing in mind that you are not buying a drink, but paying for the girl's time.
That prices seem higher for Americans can not be helped except by having special cheap prices for you guys (yeah like that would ever happen!) If you were simply visiting the place to have a fuck, I can't imagine why you would be wanting to buy girls drinks anyway.

4) A girl working in a brothel would almost certainly speak Russian, the place is almost certainly run by Russians, many of the girls would be Russian, a large number of the wealthier clients would be Russian. I live here and, frankly, it is pretty much impossible to tell a girl's origin by sight. There are tall blonde girls with a Russian heritage and short dumpy girls of Baltic extraction. Most girls in brothels are Russian in origin, but I know quite a few who are not and of course a girl born here and with an Estoninan passport might well not describe herself as Russian if she had Estonian citizenship and nationality.
There would have been no reason for her to lie to you about her heritage, but if she thought you were accusing her of lying, well, I am not surprised that service was less than stellar!.

5) When using [url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net[/url] it is worth trying to sort out the individual girls from the ads from clubs. Ask the advertiser and look out for several girls advertising with the same phone number. I would suggest that an individual girl will be a better bet than a girl in a brothel, for whom you are just guy number 3 from an expected six on her shift.

Sorry things did not work out so well for you. Red Club is certainly one of the nicer places in Tallinn, Mikado, I do not know of at all. Sadly, even commercial sex is, in the end, a personal matter and what works well for one person will not be good for another.
Tallinn has a lot to offer, but as always, when doing a new thing, that which seems easiest is not always the best.

Spent 3 days in Tallinn last week.Sex apart what an interesting place it is.Lovely old buildings and 1st class restaurants.

I had a 19 beauty fly up from Riga so I didn't explore the local scene. But, I spoke to a few non pro girls in bars etc and i am positive that with a polite approach they would be interested in earning a few pounds.

If anybody wants an apartment I strongly would advise you to go to redgroup. I stayed in apartment: Lembitu 14. Ten mins walk from the centre.

I had just 1 day in Tallinn, (stayed in hotel Olimpia) and after reading all on this forum and still being unclear where to look I was determinend to folow a local mongerer approach:


So I went out and bought a Newspaper:
Sl Ohtuleht; [url]www.sloleht.ee;[/url] Logo on Red & Blue background
page 16; look for TUTVUS; Prices 300 - 350 Est crowns.

Phoned Diana: Blonde fat, tel 56 732 877, Apt on Street "Lauteri" # 8, apt. 73, walking distance from Olimpiius Hotel. 2 girls, one with too much fluff... I said "Spasibo za vnimanie" and left.


Someone to check: Snejana 28y, 158/48: +372 55 555 231

Good luck there!

I plan on taking a day trip to Tallinn from Helsinki. Are there any incall places or street action I can take advantage of in such a short trip?

Also does anyone know when the last fast boat (hydrofoil) leaves Tallinn for Helsinki in the evening.

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]I plan on taking a day trip to Tallinn from Helsinki. Are there any incall places or street action I can take advantage of in such a short trip?

Also does anyone know when the last fast boat (hydrofoil) leaves Tallinn for Helsinki in the evening.[/QUOTE]

Red Club on Livalaia, at about 1 O'clock looking from the Olympia Hotel is open 24 hours. Probably lose a load there...

Linda Line has a fast boat leaving at 21:00 back to Helsinki. If the weather is bad, then you can take a Tallink slow boat overnight that leaves just before midnight.

Hi,

I'm young boy 21 and I want going to Bucharest or Tallin or other.

So I want meet a girl between 18 and 21.

But I want some help because I don't know this country and I want say where are the girls.

Can you tell me what the best town please?

Best regard,

Aero

if you are 21, try to find a nice girl in your town, go out for a date and don't pay for sex.

if you think you need some practice anyhow and you love european girls then check your buget. if i assume your budget is small, then go to poland.

poland is currently the best option for p4p and you also have a decent chance to meet a) a girl that speeks english and b) may let you in for friendship (freebie).

read the polish section of this forum carefully to be prepared.

[QUOTE=Frank Nery]
Someone to check: Snejana 28y, 158/48: +372 55 555 231
Good luck there![/QUOTE]Her pictures;[url]www.pilt.ee\snezhana[/url]

Price/1hour; locals 350eek / others 500eek

Snezana speaks English

Address; Pronksi x-xx

apologies for the delay in posting this but work has been very busy since my return.

i was in tallinn last month for a short visit. it was a combination of work and r&r. due to changing work commitments this trip was on, off and on again, all in the space of 12 days. therefore i was unable to do my usual detailed preparation. i had experienced major stress and hassles in the 6 months prior to the trip, both personal and work related. on this particular trip the mongering was not an essential element or a high priority of the r&r, but needless to say would never be ignored.

i had managed to book an apartment and part of the deal was to be picked up from the airport. within 45 minutes of the plane landing i was in the apartment completing the paperwork. a quick shopping expedition ensured the apartment was supplied with the essentials. i also eventually obtained a local sim card for my phone after some searching.

i met up with dusty bin and a lady friend of his, l, for diner at argentina on parnu mnt. l suggested inviting one of her friends over to make a foursome, but i unfortunately declined, as i was meeting up with irina who’s number i had from a previous visit.

i left the resteraunt and went to the front bar at the viru hotel where we were to meet. irina was 30 minutes late. after a few drinks we went back to my apartment. i fixed her a drink and we started ‘making out’ on the sofa. everything appeared to be going great. i had unhooked her bra. the belt and top button of her jeans were undone and i was rubbing her groin through her thong when i heard her say “i want some money”. i initially ignored her and carried on with the job in hand. she fastened her jeans and bra, crossed her arms and sat on the sofa next to me. this was a new scenario to me. i had never been in this situation before, where after bringing a girl back and events had started, money was demanded. i looked across at irina who had a smug smile on her face. i could read her mind at this stage. i am sure she was thinking i have got him excited. his dick will rule his brain and he is bound to say yes to whatever figure i have in mind. i have no problems with p4p having had many exceedingly enjoyable sessions of this, but this has always been when both parties were aware this was the case, and negotiations were above board and amicable. i was not going to be taken for an idiot or an ‘easy mark’. when i said i would not pay her she appeared somewhat surprised. she got her things and made her way to the door still looking over her shoulder and expecting me to change my mind and call her back. i saw her outside the building on her phone - presumably calling a taxi.

by this time it was still only 23:45. there was no way i was going to bed on my first night before midnight, so i walked over to the amigo. would you believe it the first non member of staff i saw in the place was irina coming out of the toilets. when she saw me out of the corner of her eye she hurried into the club. i went over and stood at the top of the steps by the elevated section of the bar, where you have a good view of the stage, the dance floor and the entrance. i had a few drinks and started to 'people watch'. i had a quick look to see who was out that night. just the usual - the finns, some locals, some working girls, some serial drink scroungers and a few of our italian friends.

2 guys came into the club, one who i had seen before on a number of occasions. he was slightly oriental in appearance. i presumed he was from russia or one of the ex soviet republics. the 2 guys stood next to me and started drinking. after about 30 minutes a drunk finn stumbled as he was climbing the steps and spilt his beer on the bar and the floor. my spectacles got splashed and the oriental man’s jacket. we both looked at each other and raised our eyes to the ceiling. we ended up talking to each other. he was not from russia or one of its former republics as i thought, but was japanese. he was a former diplomat who enjoyed his time in scandinavia and the baltics so much he decided to stay when his posting finished. the other guy was a close russian friend of his. on previous visits to the amigo i had noticed the japanese guy, s, usually with more than one girl. we talked about his time in the region and the changes over the last few years. just 2 guys in a bar chewing the fat.

2 women came into the club and s bought them drinks and started talking to them. one was about 35 with brown hair and a slim build. the other was about 40 with blonde hair tied back, a slightly fuller figure and with a nice rack. her pale skin, red lipstick and nails contrasted well with her black t-shirt. s introduced them. the brown haired one was his current girlfriend, not his only one i suspect, and the other her friend. i offered the blonde woman the stool i had been sitting on. this brought on an initial look of surprise on her face, thereafter a big smile, some meaningful facial expressions between her and her friend and subsequently she made some comments to her friend. i got the distinct impression this act and type of behaviour was not what she was used to or expected, certainly not in the amigo. the blonde woman, bw, spoke very little english and i do not speak estonian or russian. she kept apologising for not speaking english properly. i told her that was not necessary. firstly her english was good - it wasn’t - i was just being kind and diplomatic, and secondly, i should be the one apologising to her as i was the one who was in her country unable to speak her language. bw told me her name but, unfortunately due to the noise i did not hear it.

we carried on talking as best we could about this and that in between her regularly fending off approaches from men; mostly drunken finns, but also some italians and even a german. i discovered she was estonian as opposed to estonian with russian origin. she was divorced. she was or had been some sort of sports therapist. i was not getting any negative vibes or bad body language signs during our conversation - if you could call it that! it was at this stage i began to think i should try to see if i could do some ground work for a possible future assignation. to make any headway i decided i would have to adopt a different approach and strategy to what she was used to. i remembered her positive reaction to me giving her my stool, so i decided to act like a gentleman (albeit a gentleman who still wanted to fuck her). as some of the approaches being made to bw were quite aggressive in nature, i conveyed my distaste of the manner of them evident in my facial expressions, body language and some comments. bw took note of this. so far so good !

after about an hour or so s announced it was time for him to leave due to him having a busy next day. i presumed both women would leave with him or the bw with the russian, but no she stayed along with the russian guy. although they had been on the dance floor for a couple of dances i noticed there did not seem to be any chemistry or vibes between them far from it. it appeared russian guy was striking out. when she was not dancing bw was sitting on the stool next to me. due to difficulties in communication there were periods in time where there was no conversation between us. i brought her a drink and continued my act as a ‘second class david niven’ particularly when bw was beckoned over for a dance by a finnish guy on the other side of the bar with his finger. her reply was the bird - middle finger. i said the guy was a rude pig. if he wished to dance with her he should have come over and asked, not called her over like a dog. bw said she was used to this attitude as she was once married to a finn.

at this time i decided to ‘go over the trenches’ 'attack the front line' and make my move. it was approaching the witching hour and i asked bw if she would like to join me for a drink in my apartment; fully expecting an initial refusal, or a rain check at best with numbers being exchanged for the future, but she said yes. off we walked to my apartment. she came in took off her shoes and sat down on the sofa with the tv remote control. she refused any more alcohol and settled for an orange juice. after a couple of minutes on the sofa dfk kicked in and i had managed to undo her bra under her t-shirt. i took her hand and lead her to the bedroom. bw asked to go to the bathroom.

on her return she had already shed her jeans and was wearing only a tanga and her t-shirt. the t-shirt did not stay on very long. she had a lovely pair of tits. a nice handful with lovely pert nipples. we continued with the dfk. i realised i was dog tired after being awake for almost 24 hrs, drinking as much as i had that day and only having one decent meal, hence there was not going to be many shots from the ‘old pistol’. i unfortunately did not have any vitamin v with me. i changed from dfk to giving her nipples the attention they duly disserved whilst my fingers were attending to her clit. 15 mins of this brought her to a very nice climax. she moved down and proceeded to give me owo. her technique was not the best i have experienced but it certainly was not the worst. cowgirl followed with me then taking her from the side to complete round one. we both fell asleep.

a few hours later the ‘old man’ was awake and i reached over and started to gently play with bw’s groin. a few minutes of gentle massage lead too her being very wet and soon awake. i started daty which carried on until she came again. i got on top of her in the old missionary and eventually finished round 2 doggie. more sleep followed. i got out of bed to get a drink, take something for my hangover and brush my teeth. round 3 started the same as round 2 with some gentle massaging of bw’s clit. she then proceeded to turn me over onto my front and gave me a massage - and i mean a proper massage. she was not lying about having some sort of sports therapy training. it was a very relaxing massage. i turned over got bw on her back and 69 started. my tongue and fingers soon elicited a suitable reaction from her body. she had a pronounced orgasm. there was a very strange reaction at this stage in that there were tears in her eyes. i asked her what was wrong. she said nothing was wrong. i did not think i would be able to come again for round 3 but bw was having non of it. she took me in her mouth for owo and a good 15 minutes later i surprisingly filled her cheeks. unfortunately she was not a swallower and went off to the bathroom to dispose of the contents. by this time it was after 10:00 am.

bw returned from the bathroom and explained she had to leave as she was catching the ferry later that day to go to helsinki for a friends birthday. she had to get ready and pack. we kissed and said our goodbyes. unfortunately not only did i not manage to get her name i forgot to get her phone number as well. she was one i would certainly wish to see again. bw left and i went back to bed to get some sleep since i had to attend a meeting that afternoon.

I spent quite a long time in Tallinn, and I have found that the p4p action here is not as quality as Moscow, St Pete or the other Baltics. This was not always the case. As recent as 2000 there were some astonishing Estonian girls that were available, but EU membership and increase in living standards has cut into the number of girls that NEED to work.

I am in my mid 30's (although I do look younger) and I have never had a problem finding freebies in Tallinn. Nimega, Hollywood, or just approaching girls on the street and asking for directions have all paid off. It takes a day or two, but a good dinner / nice walk / peary cider all lead a suprisingly large number of 18-22 year old girls back to the apartment.

A word of warning: Do not get smashed and try to pick up Estonian girls. There are so many drunk Finns that come over for a gropefest that it turns them away.

Firstly, sorry for the delay between posting Part 1 and this. Unfortunately the small matter of work has interfered. I hope to have Part 3 posted later this week.


After my very enjoyable and tiring session with BW, I got out of my bed at 14:00 hrs, only because of my scheduled meeting at 15:00hrs. The meeting was quite productive. Another meeting was arranged for Monday afternoon, but prior to that I had the next 3 days and nights available to just ‘chill out and relax’.

I met up for a few drinks with some colleagues who had arrived over from Helsinki for the weekend. I was not going to stay with them all night as their objective was purely to drink as much as they could. They are nice guys but can be 'a bit of a pain' when drunk. I left them after a couple of hours and went over to Molly Malones, since I knew I could always run into them again later in the evening as they were staying in the Viru and would no doubt be frequenting the Amigo if still upright. AG, a friend of Dusty Bin’s, joined me for a beer before the arrival of Dusty, his lady friend L and a friend of her’s R. R was the person L wanted to invite over to Argentina on the previous night. She was a ‘hot little number’.

All five of us moved on to the Havana, which was a Latin bar I had not been to before. The clientele was of a reasonable age spread, but I think Dusty and myself were probably amongst the oldest in people in there, with some good music being played in the back room by the DJ. I was on the dance floor with R and things seemed to be progressing quite well. I was thinking to myself this could lead somewhere; if not tonight, possibly sometime in the future. AG wanted to go to the X club as he was hoping to meet up with one of the dancers and get her number. The girls agreed to go. The X club is a very ‘classy’ strip/lap dancing club close to the Japanese Embassy. The décor is very plush with a number of themed rooms. Entrance was 150 EKK for guys and 50 EKK for the girls. Although L and R appeared quite happy to go to the club their attitudes changed soon after our entrance. They departed after a short while. AG had a private dance with one of the girls. The dancers were a varied group and quite good, but I found a number of them were not to my taste because of their tattoos. I know some guys like girls with tattoos but it does not work for me. The girls start off by dancing on the stage but then move amongst the guys seated on the couches and chairs and perform in their laps with the expectation of a 25EKK tip. AG, Dusty and myself left after about an hour in the club. Our timing was just about right. As we were leaving a couple of large Stag parties arrived. I would recommend the X club as a place to visit.

Nothing of note on the mongering front occurred during this evening and the next 2 days and nights apart from obtaining a few phone numbers to be used for the future. Some of the venues visited were Bonnie and Clydes, the Amigo, Scotland Yard, VS Tallinn, Nimega, Nimeeta, Amarillo, Asian Aroma. Two very pleasant afternoon periods were spent watching the girls in the Viru centre and outside the Irish Pub on Viru. VS Tallinn and Asian Aroma are 2 places I would recommend to eat. Both provide good food and good value for money.

Happy hunting,

Jake Sins

(.... to be continued ......)

Great stuff Jake Sins! Amazing reporting!

It is good to hear from others like you and Russia Guy that the non-pro scene is still a very viable option in Tallin.

[QUOTE=Perry Mason #1]Great stuff Jake Sins! Amazing reporting!

It is good to hear from others like you and Russia Guy that the non-pro scene is still a very viable option in Tallin.[/QUOTE]Glad to be of help. I was out looking for a watch not to long ago and a friend and I walked up to two 8's on the street and asked where there was a good place to buy a watch. They tried for a few minutes to give us directions and finally just told us to come with them. They took us to a few shops and I actually bought a watch. To "thank them" for their trouble we had to buy them a drink and after a pleasant night we both hooked up that evening.

Old town is full of fun. Anyone know anything about the postcard mafia that bursts out in the summer? I talked to an 18 year old postcard girl for 30 minutes and we are meeting up for a drink when I am back in town. What it is the deal with the hotties that they hire for that gig?

The postcard girls work on commission. They are often students working to get the next semester's tuitoin fees sorted. Apparently they can earn quite good money.

I visited Red Club next to the Olympia Hotel last week. Paid 100 E for a nice young lady which allowed me to use her services twice during my hour with her. There were only about four girls in the club (it was in the afternoon). I should mention I'm not a strict negotiater when it comes to price but I did negotiate two pops.

We had a taxi take us to two other places. Mikado had three unnattractive girls and the other place had no girls since they were all at the beach. Sorry I don't have the name of the other place but it is named after its street address and it is near Mikado. Mikado Tallinn is nothing like Mikado of Helsinki but keep in mind I went during the day.

Thanks to Dusty Bin and others for the info provided here.

I was out at Cafe Amigo a couple of weeks ago with my girlfriend and a couple of her friends.

We were sitting in a booth enjoying a drink and a chat, a couple of young Italians wandered over, sweaters tied around their waists and bright white trainers, could have done with having a shave, but otherwise good looking in a bumpkin sort of a way and the two girls were willing to give them a chance. They sat down and within a couple of minutes the girls were fending off an assault of tongues, but they were not entirely unresponsive. Glasses were empty and the Italians were not, it seems drinking. (We found out why later!) The girls made it clear that they were unwilling to proceed without an infusion of Stroh and Cola. Lads disappear for a few minutes and return with a couple of glasses of the necessary.
More tongues and hands stuff...
Off for a dance...
More tongues and hands.

Guys are getting very worked up and the girls are having fun in that distant sort of way that girls, who are not that bothered, have. Making gentle fun of the guys, pushing them back, only to allow them access a few seconds later.

Of course all this has a purpose, the guys are as randy as a bag full of bunnies and they have been told that all girls are available for money (of course they are not!) They make their move, the first Mr Big Shot, offers the girls 30Euro each for the pleasure of their company at their hostel. Girls, are insulted, after all, even if they are not working they want to think they are worth more than that...

The farm boy paupers are quickly kicked off the table and we continued to enjoy ourselves. Now we knew why they were not drinking, probably could not afford to...

Is there something special about Italian boys? Are they all poor? Who tells them what is going on? Is there a special website for Italians with special decade old information?

[QUOTE=Dusty Bin]
Is there something special about Italian boys? Are they all poor? [/QUOTE]

Cheapos? Holiday on a budget?

I take it this summer's Roman look is still the same as last years - sweaters around the waist or over the shoulders, white trainers and sunglasses perched on their heads - even in the nighclubs !!!!

Jake Sins

Yes, just the same in all respects.

Have seen it a thousand times. If Italians especially those not used to travel, jump over the Alps north, they think they are going to travel to really cold places and they take their sweaters all the time with them.

It was so 20 yr back and it is the same now. I wonder when they start learning that the North can be hot temperature as well ...

I am surpised they had no money. Most of them live at home at their mother place still and have a lot of money to spend...

I don't know for sure, but I understand from what I have been told that many of the cheap flights coming in are from a relatively poor region of Italy. There are some well off folk around, especially during the hunting season from mid August onward.

Mr Chips ~ I suppose I could have written about Britons, or Finns or even Germans. But, truth be told, the poor clods who assailed us the other week, were Italians.
At least they were not wearing sandals, but then they would likely not have been allowed into the club... Poor - OK. Badly dressed - OK. Poor and badly dressed? No chance!

When Britons, or Finns do something noteworthy and broadly on topic, rest assured, I will note it. Until then, the Italians are doing as last year; being poor and chatting up women old enough to be their mothers. The Britons are being loud, fun, generous and popular. The Finns are still displaying the social prowess for which they are reknowned and the local girls still respond in an appropriate fashion to each group.

Sincere apologies for the huge delay in between posting this and Part 2. I am afraid work has been interefering again.


My last full day in Tallinn started quite late. I only got out of my bed around about 11 a.m. The last 4 late nights and accumulated lack of sleep had started to catch up with me. Although the previous night was a quiet one as far as the mongering was concerned, it still turned out to be a late one as I met up with some of the guys over from Helsinki and the drink was flowing.

A leisurely shower and bowl of cereal was followed by a meeting, which concluded the work element of the visit. A quick shopping trip for souvenirs ensured the rest of the time in the city was all mine. I went over to Molly Malone’s for a quick early evening final drink and would you believe it, I saw 2 guys sitting at the bar who used to work for the same company as me about 8 years previously. They were over in Tallinn for a sales meeting, but they had arrived a few days early to enjoy the delights of the city. They asked me for some information regarding the night life, particularly of the exotic variety, when they found out this was not my first trip to Tallinn. I was more than happy to oblige.

I went back to my apartment for a shower and shave. I was meeting up with Dusty for a final drink and a discussion of a business idea. We arranged to meet at the Amarillo in the Viru hotel at about 2300 hrs. By the time I had eaten and Dusty and I had finished our discussions it was approaching 1 a.m. On the way down to the Amigo Dusty spotted a lady, Lena, who used to be an old neighbour of his. I recognised her as a WG from my previous visits. She was blonde, slim, mid forties and not unpleasant.

Dusty and I grabbed a drink and had a look round. It looked like a typical Monday night crowd. A slightly older mixed clientele than you would usually find on a weekend. We went over and stood by the elevated section of the bar away from the main entrance in order to be in a position to survey most of the room. After a few minutes conversation I noticed 2 Russian girls (pointed shoes) with their backs to me standing by me at the bar being ‘chatted up’ by a group of Finns. A couple of the guys looked as if they had failed an audition for the latest Finnish Western. All they had missing were the horses, the spurs and the Stetsons. One of the girls was about 40, with white blonde hair, a medium build and a nice mammary development. The other looked about late 20s, with a slim build and a great arse. The girls had a few dances with the Finns. I noted the Finns were getting more and more physical during the dances with the girls. Each time upon their return from the dance floor they resumed their positions standing next to me at the bar. The slim one got out a cigarette but could not find her lighter. I said “ Here allow me”. I duly obliged with my lighter and was rewarded with a nice smile and the words “Thank you”. This was the first time I had managed to get a good look at her face and I thought she was quite attractive even though she was not the usual type I went for, i.e. very slim.

One of the Finns (he looked like a bigger and fatter version of Kenneth Williams in ‘Carry on Cowboy’) tried to do a few dance moves with the slim girl at the bar and almost threw her to the ground. I managed to prevent her falling by grabbing her back and arm. She said thank you to me again. Words were exchanged between the 2 girls. They had obviously had enough of the increasingly unwanted attention of the Finnish cowboys. They moved away from the bar and headed to the toilets. The Finns turned their attentions to some countrywomen of theirs, who were a good 20 years older than the 2 Russian girls and about half a ton heavier.

Dusty and I circulated. We spotted 3 Russian WGs entering. One was a about 40 with white blonde hair, dressed all in white with a stunning body. She was the sexiest thing in the place. The 2 girls with her were very attractive as well. One was black haired, black eyed, medium build, about 30 and looked like she was from one of the ex USSR stans. The other was brown haired, slim build, nice chest and in her mid 20s. Talk about being the centre of attention. It was like ‘flies round shit’. Finns, some young Brits (leftovers from a weekend stag party), a couple of Germans and some well heeled older Roman friends were all trying their luck. The Finns and Brits were slightly the worse for wear. The Romans had deeper pockets. The Romans won. Within 15 mins of arriving the 3 Russians had left with their respective ‘husbands’ of the night and no doubt with the next couple of weeks rent paid !

Dusty and I eventually ended up at the bar on the lower tier close to the access for the dance floor. We were talking when a very drunk and annoying Finn (yes it’s a cliché - but very true) appeared out of nowhere and started asking us what our price was and what we were selling. He thought we were salesmen. We manage to get rid of him.

Dusty was about to leave, when I asked him wait until I came back from the toilet, as I needed him to keep his eyes out for the 2 Russian girls from earlier, who were either still in the toilets or had left without my noticing. 3 yards from the Gents the 2 girls came out of the Ladies and I asked the slim one if she was ok. She said yes. Upon my return from the gents. I spotted the 2 girls at the bar not too far away from Dusty. He went to the toilet. I went over to the girls and started talking to the slim one as I knew she could at least speak some English. Her name was Angelica. I offered my apologies to her regarding the behaviour of the Finns earlier and said I would have asked her to dance myself if I was certain she was not with them. I thought I would try the same approach with Angelica as I tried with BW on my first night - the concerned Gentleman. Dusty returned said his goodbyes and left. Angelica’s friend, who’s name I cannot remember, did not speak English. The annoying drunken Finn returned and started to interrupt our conversation. He was being a real pain. Although I am not the world’s most avid dancer, having had serious problems with my tendons from a previous accident and also still sore from dancing 2 nights previously, I asked Angelica to dance just to get away from the bloody Finn.

We had a few dances together including a couple where Angelica tried to teach me the Cha Cha - I kid you not !! This did not work out too well since I have 2 left feet and very little rhythm, apart from when I am in Missionary, Doggie or any other sexual position. We went back to the bar and I bought Angelica a Gin and Tonic and some cigarettes. We continued talking about the usual crap. She asked if this was my first trip to Tallinn, whether I liked the city, why I was in Tallinn, what my job is, where I was staying. I asked her the usual rubbish as well - chit chat. I pretended the music was a little too loud and I was having difficulty hearing what she was saying, so I was bent a little forward with my hand placed gently on her back directing her voice towards my ear. There was no objection to my ‘gentle’ hand on her back so the touch became firmer. Still no objection and firmer still and I eventually started to caress and rub her back. No resistance was forthcoming. Things were preceding nicely when the fucking Finn turned up again. Angelica and I tried to ignore him as best we could. He then turned his attention onto Angelica’s friend. She was not going to be lumbered with him again, so she took up the offer of a dance from some guy. I grabbed Angelica’s hand and lead her onto the dance floor. Luckily for me the next 2 numbers were not too quick.

We returned to the bar area. The witching hour was rapidly approaching. I thought I had better make my move. I invited Angelica back to my place for a drink and to continue the evening/night. I thought I would probably get a ‘rain check’ and her phone number. I did not realistically expect much more, since I did not think Angelica’s friend would wish to come back to my place and play gooseberry even if Angelica was agreeable. Angelica spoke to her friend. She said she had brought her friend with her and she was supposed to take her back. We went out and picked up our coats. I met the 2 guys from Mollys arriving into the Amigo as we were leaving. I walked with the 2 girls to the taxi rank outside the Viru. I was fully expecting to be asked to drop both the girls off or at best drop the friend of first and Angelica coming back with me. I asked how much the taxi was going to cost. Angelica’s friend got into the first taxi - alone. It was at this stage I realised Angelica had decided to come back with me. She spoke to the taxi driver. He obviously quoted too much since her friend got out of the first taxi and got into another one. The cost was 80 EKK. I gladly handed over 100 EKK to the friend and wished her goodnight.

Angelica and I walked back to my nearby apartment. I fixed us both a couple of drinks whilst she put the fashion channel on the TV. She sat next to me on the sofa. I reached over and started to caress the back of her neck and cheek. I drew her towards me and started to kiss her. Almost immediately DFK. My hand went under her blouse and before I had a chance to cup her breast she was sitting astride me grinding her pelvis in my groin. Halleluiah I had got a real live one. Inwardly I was doing handstands and backflips. Her blouse came off in seconds along with her bra and my shirt. All this time the DFK and grinding was still going on. Her jeans and my trousers were dumped on the floor with a little more difficulty whilst she was still astride me. My mouth and hands were all over her. After a few minutes she said are we staying here. I picked her up with her legs still wrapped around me and took her to the bedroom. She made a quick trip to the bathroom where I heard the shower going.

She came back and we carried on from where we left off. The only negative thing was that Angelica did not do French. I initially used my fingers on her mouth, her nipples her stomach and finally her clit. This was followed by my mouth and lips with me ending up DATY. She enjoyed every minute of it, if the moisture on my fingers, my tongue and the bed are any evidence. She was purring and then moaning to her hearts content. I put an overcoat on the old man and round 1 was concluded in missionary. Angelica said she had to leave at 8.30 am as she has a meeting to attend. I set the alarm on my mobile phone and we fell asleep.

A couple of hours later I was awake. Angelica was lying with her head on my arm with her cute but next to my cock. Within seconds it was standing to attention. I removed my arm and put on another overcoat. I started to rub her mound and was pleased to hear the sound of her breathing altering. I could feel her wetness and inserted my fingers deeper. She was in that happy state of being half awake and still half asleep. I entered her from behind half way between doggie and from the side. I started to thrust with greater force. Angelica was fully awake by now. We adjusted position so that it was full doggie. 10 minutes of this brought round 2 to and end.

More sleep followed. I woke up at 08:15 with a ‘morning glory’ and a huge one at that. I had a quick trip to the bathroom to empty the bladder and to clean my teeth. I returned to the bed and Angelica was still asleep on her side facing me. I moistened my fingers and rubbed the tips of her nipples. This massage had the desired effect. They became erect. Angelica turned over onto her back. I proceed to give her groin the attention it duly disserved first with my fingers and then with my tongue. Moisture, moisture everywhere. Angelica rubbed the head of my cock a few times and then sat astride me cowgirl style and rode me like a jockey. This went on for quite a while. I almost ‘shot my bolt’ but managed to stop just in time. We changed positions and moved over to missionary with the bottom of Angelica’s legs against my shoulders. Round 3 finished in this manner. Angelica asked what time it was. I sheepishly replied it was almost 08:45. She jumped straight out of bed and rushed to the bathroom whilst I was still in bed with a smile and a smug expression on my face, which would have made the ‘Cheshire Cat’ envious.

Angelica quickly got dressed. I got her phone number from her. I said I may be back in about 6 weeks and I would call her. She called a taxi to take her to where she had parked her car in the city the night before and asked if she could have some money for it. I gave her 200EKK. We kissed and she departed. I went back to bed.

I got out of my pit about 1300hrs. Showered and packed. I had a very late breakfast at VS Tallinn where Dusty Bin joined me. We went back to the apartment, where I picked up my things and gave Dusty all the consumables I had not used, as I certainly was not carting them all the way back home. We got in a taxi and I dropped Dusty off at his apartment before heading out to the Airport and a flight back home.

As I mentioned in a previous post related to this trip, my objectives for this visit were a little work and some time away from all the shit that had impacted in my life in the previous 6 months. A few days to recharge my batteries in a lovely city seeing some friends and having a good time. This I achieved in bundles and I managed to score a couple of freebies with 2 nice local girls. What more can a man want ?

PS I will be out there again very, very shortly. Ain't life a ***** !!!!!!!

Happy hunting

Regards

JakeSins

Thanks for the vodka mate. See you next week!

Excellent report Jake.

Top report Jake. Tallin is a favourite of mine. I've had some good times there over the years. Enjoy Riga and lets read about it.

Great fun in Tallinn, too bad the changes of the city also means that many of the "watering holes" move on and change style.

Anyone knows what happened to the apartmentbrothel in the corner house Lembitu/Vambola the first floor. (Close to the park and just above the "tabledance/poolbar" in the basement.) Tried this establishment many times with fun and joy. Especially a small estonian 9-er with black hair, easyspooken and ongoing, made a great number a year ago. In overall nice girls to pick your choice from, polite hostess and clean rooms/bathroom.

Last winter, place closed, the house was being refurbished.

Instead a taxi-driver found me a parlor in the basement of a small apartmenthouse south of the railroad at Marta. Close to the gas station. One lady doing door and cash. The other with stunning tits. Germanspeaking. Service in small chambers with shower. Decent clean - ok service. After some foreplay she will start offering you the menu - ok pricing.

Clubs doesn't work out ok for me since they have limited service hours - ok f.i. Red Club runs long hours but it's so mainstream and europized - instead I'm looking for new apartment brothels. All info from the forum guests will be helpful!

Hello all.

I'm new to this forum. From what I have read, wow!

I travel quite a bit.

This forum has helped me out a great deal. It's amazing when I read something and I can say, wow, I know exactly where they mean.

Now on to my current dilemma. I'm in Tallin for a week. I'm looking for some locat talent to visit my hotel. I found some numbers, but none were fruitful.

Can someone help me out?

Thanks to all and thanks to this forum.

Cheers and happy hunting to us all.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I went to the Red Club.

I bought a 100eek beer and sat at one of the booths.

There were about 5 girls there.

None of them approached me. I just sat there and drank my beer.

What's up with that?

I'm use to the girls approaching me. Can anyone offer me some advice.

I went there around 0100.

I was there a couple of months ago and had a very good time there. There were only 3 girls there since it was in the afternoon. One came up to but the others kept their distance. If you go back I would sugest speaking to the bartender and asking him to let you know who is available. The bartender on duty when I visited spoke English very well.

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]I was there a couple of months ago and had a very good time there. There were only 3 girls there since it was in the afternoon. One came up to but the others kept their distance. If you go back I would sugest speaking to the bartender and asking him to let you know who is available. The bartender on duty when I visited spoke English very well.[/QUOTE]Just get yourself a drink and approach them one after one. They are waiting for your move. Sit down for a few minutes talk to her. If not the right one - move on and check the next one up. They are polite and some of them also talks decent english or german.

Does anyone have experiences with girls in Hotel Radisson in Tallinn? Is the hotel girl-friendly (maybe with some tip to security or regular registration at reception?)

Are there some girls also in the hotel (lobby, bar)?

[QUOTE=Root66]Does anyone have experiences with girls in Hotel Radisson in Tallinn? Is the hotel girl-friendly (maybe with some tip to security or regular registration at reception?)

Are there some girls also in the hotel (lobby, bar)?[/QUOTE]I have stayed there a few times and I didn't have any problems with girls but I've had only two allnighters that came quite early in the evening (7-8 o'clock), so don't know if the girls need to be registered if they come late at night. I don't think that there are any girls in lobby/bar (haven't seen any...). You can go to a club and pick up a girl, for example Red Club ([url]www.redclub.ee[/url]) or their "sister club" Mikado. Or you can order a girl to your room from [url]http://www.secretaryacademy.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=eng&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]

I hope that you have a good time.

[QUOTE=Root66]Does anyone have experiences with girls in Hotel Radisson in Tallinn? Is the hotel girl-friendly (maybe with some tip to security or regular registration at reception?)

Are there some girls also in the hotel (lobby, bar)?[/QUOTE]I have never seen any girls in the lobby although I did see one waiting outside the front entrance in the daytime who had also been offering her services in a nightclub the night before.

I have always found the hotel girl friendly when I have accompanied them.

Radisson allows girls upstairs, but they have to leave documentation at reception. OR if they will not/can not, then a little money to security will do the trick. IMHO any girl that will not register should not be taken into one's room.
To the best of my knowledge this now applies during the day as well as the evening.

I stayed a year ago in a hotel Tallink for a business seminar, unfortunately that trip I didn't have a possibility to develope relations with local ladies.

In the evening I recocnised a few guys trying to bring ladies upstairs with bad success. Receptionist seemed to be a quite sharp. I didn't catch the details of the discussion but the end of it was that guys went upstairs without ladies. It was over midnight what could be the reason or they just didn't have the right approach.

Are there any other better quality hotels beside Radisson that allows girls to stay over night?

I have never had any problems taking girls to Reval Hotel Olympia or Reval Park Hotel&Casino. Both of these hotels are quite nice.

Frankly, I do not know if ANY hotel in Tallinn that is not in one manner or another 'girl friendly'. The hotel trade here DEPENDS upon the trade in flesh so the only difference between one place and another is the manner in which they maintain security and make the extra from extra heads on pillows.

I would bet the girls who did not go upstairs in the Radisson were girls who did not have ID with them, or chose not to show it. The hotel charges, IIRC, 300eek per extra pillow used, unless a double occupancy is booked, most places do this. The Reval Express does not , but insists upon registering girls. If I were an hotel user, I would always ask the girl if she has her passport with her and reject a girl who did not. I can not imagine many 'professional' girls would not carry ID, they know the rules.

I'll go in Tallin in November: does someone suggest me how I could spend my time?

Thanks a lot

What do you wanna do?

@Captainfindus: If you are looking for girls, more or less the only website i found was [url]www.secretaryacademy.net[/url] - most girls look like semi-pro but some of them are from clubs or escort agencys.

On the street you'll not find many girls at the moment because the weather is terrible (snow/rain/cold).

It looks for me until now that Tallinn is not the best place to find girls (but maybe only i'm not able to find them).

Maybe it's easier to help you if you write a little bit more in detail what you are looking for - the old city of tallinn should be realy nice to walk around

do some fucking and lets hear about it, there is plenty of action there, just get among it, dont forget the camera for the sexy pics, this is always a good idea, if you bump into willie large try and stay away from him, he is easy to spot, he has thick rimmed glasses, wears brown couderoys and dirty old mac, and sweats in copious amounts

Who is Willie Large?

Hi guys,

Anyone interested to meet a nice girl in Tallinn that can come to your hotel or you can visit me.

I´m a nice slim girl in Tallinn that will give you a nice time in your hotel room or in my apartment. I perform normal sex with condom and I'm sure that you will enjoy it!
I also speak good english and is easy to communicate with so call me or send me an e-mail. I hope we will meet!

My measurements are:

Age 21
Brown hair and eyes
178 cm
60 Kg
Breast -80B

Prices are:

1 Hour 1000EEK or 70 Euro

Please send me a PM.

Kisses

Maria

[QUOTE=Maria Tallinn]
I´m a nice slim girl in Tallinn that will give you a nice time in your hotel room or in my apartment. I perform normal sex with condom and I'm sure that you will enjoy it!

Prices are:
1 Hour 1000EEK or 70 Euro
[/QUOTE]Whoa! It's not SO expensive in Tallinn! Normally you get covered normal sex with young nice english-speaking girl for 500-700 EEK.

[QUOTE=Kit Walker]Whoa! It's not SO expensive in Tallinn! Normally you get covered normal sex with young nice english-speaking girl for 500-700 EEK.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm..

Where?

Perhaps you last visited a while ago?

I am not saying you can not find 'something' for 32 Euro, but it is unlikely to be nice, nor Engish speaking.

[QUOTE=Dusty Bin]Hmmm..
Where?

Perhaps you last visited a while ago?

I am not saying you can not find 'something' for 32 Euro, but it is unlikely to be nice, nor Engish speaking.[/QUOTE]Local priceanchor is 400eek/h = TT = tavaline tasu = common price.

Yes, you can find nice, young and English speaking for 32€=500eek, if
you are using your legs and take a tour at apartmentplaces.

But this price is only, if seller don't understand that you ain't local. So you have to know basic Estonian or Russian phrases and numbers.

Same place, same service, use Finnish or English price change from 400 to minimum 500eek, maximum 800eek.

Example, local sloleht, add.
28/158/48. Efektne miniatuurne blondiin pakub lõõgastavat ja erootilist massaaži. Privaatne. Foto internetis. Snežana.

Talk Estonian, she changes to English, price 350.
Start English, price 500eek.

This doublepricing is common thing at former USSR-countries. Compare writing
about situation at Riga.

I wrote this about a year ago, but it may still be useful.

Feel free to post corrections/updates.

neurosynth

*** TALLINN *** (written August 20, 2004 by your correspondent, Neurosynth)

Here is a report on my recent visit to Tallinn Estonia. I've gotten most of this info from the web, but bring it together here in one place. It's the post I wish I could have found, but didn't, before going to Tallinn.

If someone wants to take this post and turn it into a more accurate FAQ by correcting what is wrong and keeping it up to date please do so!!

Initially I found information about Tallinn to be encouraging....

"Very inexpensive! Pretty Nordic and Russian looking girls! Don't even bother to go commercial because the local girls will gladly bed you with passion once you get a couple drinks in them!"

But then I found many of the details to be sketchy and/or wrong or out of date.

Ultimately I found a couple reliable places a little less expensive than the Amsterdam RLD but lower in quality and (obviously) number. Those are reported on below, along with a bunch of other useful info.

However please note...I was only there for 2 days!!!

I suspect that if one had time to check out the apartment places more fully some real bargain beauties could be found. As for the local non-working girls...they are indeed pretty and seem to like their drink...but I didn't see any indication that they are any "looser" than girls you might find at any random "first world" city bar.

*** Money ***

The Estonian Crown (EEK) is the currency, but I understand the Euro is on the way. I have no doubt this will result in higher prices. Here are today's (20.08.04) exchange rates -

1 US Dollar = 12.68645 Estonian Kroon
1 Estonian Kroon (EEK) = 0.07882 US Dollar (USD)
1 Euro = 15.65000 Estonian Kroon
1 Estonian Kroon (EEK) = 0.06390 Euro (EUR)

And some practical rules of thumb, rounded up, that are easier to remember and calculate with -

1000 EEK = $80 = 65€ $100 = 1300 EEK 100€ = 1600 EEK


** Geography ***

For the purposes of commercial sex there are 3 areas. The City Center where all the tall downtown buildings and better hotels are, the Old Town which is the medieval walled city interestingly preserved, and the outlying areas...i.e. everywhere else.

If you are not afraid to use a map (the streets are *not* on a grid system at all) and can walk for 15 minutes several times a day you will be able to walk everywhere within the City Center and Old Town. You can also usually find cabs in the City Center and have them wait (for a reasonable fee) if you go far afield. There are also trams, but I didn't bother to figure them out.

I know of no prostitution in the Old Town, but there are some strip clubs which, from everything I've read, are not worth the effort or money. Don't bother, I am told, because they are both tame and expensive (relative to the local (somewhat poor) economy).

In the City Center there are 3 major types of commercial sex services. There are at least 2 well organized brothels masked as clubs. I report on the two I went to later in this report. The clubs often have a bar and a sauna...and perhaps bedrooms...with anywhere from a handful to a dozen or more girls working at a time. There are also apartment run businesses with 1 to 3 or more girls. Finally there are a couple or three legitimate nightclubs that working girls supposedly cruise for johns wanting to take them back to the hotel. If choosing randomly the best girls are supposedly cruising the clubs, then at the brothel clubs, and the least attractive girls in the apartments.

But there is supposedly large variation and overlap. The clubs and cruising girls tend to be more expensive than the apartment girls. For the former expect to pay a total of at least 1000 EEK and perhaps as much as 1500 EEK or more. These charges might include buying the girl a mandatory expensive drink, a cover charge, and so on. The apartment girls might be available for 400 to 700 EEK.

In the outlying areas there are both club brothels and apartment businesses, or so I've read. I've also read that a number of these have been closed in the last year. I stayed in the City Center.

To get to these places you have 3 choices. Get an address, look it up on a map, and walk there, OR get in a cab and give him the address OR ask to be brought to "a good place". If you do the latter note that the driver will no doubt bring you to the place that gives him the largest kickback, and oh by the way they will charge *you* for that kickback. So what would have been a 600 EEK session might turn into a 1200 EEK session. If you walk to a place and the price seems steep, remind them that you walked there and did not take a taxi.

The easiest way to find places on your own is to use a computer and a physical paper map. First locate the address via maporama.com and then mark it on the physical paper map. You can then get all your targets on a real map, and not carry around a bunch of little printouts.

Note that addresses are often given in a format something like "Lembitu 7/23". In America we would note this as "7 Lembitu st., Apt #23". Maporama will want you to search for "7 Lembitu". Addresses tend to be building numbers rather than abstract coordinates with small numbers closer to the City Center.

I myself just made a map and walked everywhere. Not a problem if the address isn't in an outlying area.


*** Web Sites worth checking out ***

(BUT watch out for old news...places come and go with frequency...)

first choice:

Be sure to go to [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info[/url]

also check:

[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net[/url]
[url]http://www.pp.clinet.fi/~jel/tallinn.html[/url]
[url]http://www.xclub.ee/eng_page.html[/url]
[url]http://www.ttw.ee/25358[/url]

I'll also make a plug for one of my favorite sites with good Amsterdam, Netherlands, German FKK, and misc info:

[url]http://www.ignatzmice.com[/url]


*** City Center places I read about but now seem to be out of business ***

Narva Mnt 26
reported on in various posts ( "15-20 girls! Only 400 EEK/hr!"). The building, however, looks condemned and abandoned

Pronksi 7 / 11
Price: 500 / hour
Phone: 051-925534
Famous place now reported as closed. Ignore earlier references you may see elsewhere.

Other famous places now closed - Morgans, Club 102

SPECIAL IMPORTANT NOTE - I read mixed reports that a change in the local laws will result in other closings as of Sept. 2004 Where possible call ahead, but also not that prostitution will not be admitted to over the phone. Sorry, but that's the way it is. When I called Tuukri 26 (below) and asked "how many girls do you have?" the response was "I am sorry sir, we are a hostel". But they were happy to note they were open 24 hours a day.


*** My 2 Reviews - Tuukri 26 and Red Club ***

Tuukri 26
phone 6 605213

"Eleni"

Tuukri 26 is on the edge of the City Center and quite walkable. It appears to be a hostel with a little bar/club on the front, but in reality it is a brothel. I arrived there in the early afternoon on a early weekday, so as expected it was a bit slow. I paid 50 EEK for entry and then 40 EEK for a coke and then sat on a couch in the bar. There were a number of couches as well as bar stools around the bar. There were 3 or 4 girls who appeared to be working although they never approached me or even really looked my way. Another fellow on another couch seemed as bored as everyone else. So far it was not a terribly exciting experience. The girls were late 20's I'd say, but quite average looking ethnic Russians. After about 15 minutes a tall thin girl with long blond hair quickly walked into the bar, spoke to one of the other girls for a moment, and then rushed back out again. I didn't get a very good look at her but concluded she might be the only other girl working and the best of the lot.

After waiting to see see if she would return for another 10 minutes or so I spoke to the woman who appeared to be the bartender/housemother. She immediately asked "what kind of girl would you like" and I mentioned the one who had swept through. She thought for a minute and then realized who I meant. I am guessing the girl wasn't working at the moment, but she went to fetch her anyway.

A few minutes later the girl appeared and came directly to me on the couch. Turned out her name was Eleni and while her figure was indeed lithe and attractive her face was rather average and her manner flat, bored, and perhaps even a bit depressed. She spoke some English and said she was just tired. After some rather nothing chit chat I asked her about a room, and she responded by saying she would like a drink.

I wanted to avoid an expensive drink scam. It's not so much about the money as my wanting her to know that I wasn't a rube, that I knew the game, and expected a quality experience. This apparently threw her from her normal game, she skipped over the champaign request. I told her I'd rather just give her the money...she hesitated but said she really did want a drink and not the money. So I got a price quote from her for the room
(700 EEK) and the drink (vodka and orange juice for 200 EEK) and decided to go with it. Ultimately just under 1000 EEK or about $80 for the entire visit.

She got a bit more friendly and fun once the deal was on, and we both went upstairs and took a shower in the bathroom attached to her room. I spent a bit of time talking with her trying to get her to cheer up and get comfortable with me. Tried out my meager Russian language skills to little avail.

Undressed her body was indeed quite attractive with shapely B cup breasts with very pointy and responsive nipples. It seemed clear that everything was going to be covered, and her initial BJ was too fast and too short. I got her to slow down and take some time. I think these girls learn that some guys will let them get them off as quickly as possible...but some will not. You just have to make them understand that you are not going to be a quick turnover kind of guy.

From that point on she was a compliant but not terribly passionate sex partner. She declined any mouth to mouth kissing, but gave and accepted body kissing and indeed invited me to apply DATY. Able now to set the pace, I proceeded with some fairly standard missionary and then doggie-style fucking, and then finished with some vigorous missionary pounding.

Somehow I knew there wouldn't be another round, and in fact there was really only enough time left to shower again, visit a little more, and then leave. She seemed to appreciate a short massage before we got up, but again her response was flat.

All in all I'd do it again. There is no way I could have an hour session with a girl of her age and looks for $80 in most other cities. But I'd have gladly paid more for some real enthusiasm.


RC aka Red Club at Liivalaia 32 (1/2 block east of Hotel Olympia (Bonnie & Clyde) on other side of Liivalaia).

"Irina"

Around 10 pm the next night I made my way to the Red Club. On the outside there is a RC logo and the quality of construction of the club overall is of higher quality. It seems like a real, if small, club, and it seems obvious to me that it is mob owned and operated. It's a nice clean decorated place though, and I never felt intimidated.

I don't recall if i paid an entry fee...if so it was minimal...and I made my way directly to the bar and paid 100 EEK for a 85 EEK coke. I then scanned the couches of the small dark bar room. There were perhaps 8 girls sitting mostly together. I was never approached, although one of the younger fetching blond girls with a pleasingly fleshy (not fat) body and a wonderfully round Russian eyes gave me several looks. It looked a bit practiced to me, and from my experience with Amsterdam window girls I know that some develop a knockout glance...and then don't at all deliver once you get in the room. I feared she was one of those and having learned that the little voice in my head is seldom wrong I passed on her.

Across the room was the only girl sitting alone. This turned out to be Irina, an ethnic Russian Estonian with long red hair and a tall womanly (not fat, not skinny girlish) figure. She seemed to send out a confident vibe and I found her Russian-going-on-Nordic features...killer cheek bones, ice blue eyes, small but shapely and pointy nose and chin...a big turn on.

So I made my way to her. She was friendly and amusing but totally professional. I never thought we had any real connection, but then I am experienced and cynical in these matters...others might be fooled. But she was fun and pleasant and after a bit of chit chat I opted to skip the sauna and take a room with her for an hour. The total cost was 1300 EEK or about $100. I was to pay 300 EEK to the house and 1000 EEK to her. I now wonder if I had mentioned that I walked rather than taking a cab if I would have been charged less, but still $100/hr seemed like a bargain to me.

Unfortunately Irina had more limits than Eleni. I suppose I could have found this out beforehand had I interviewed her a bit more. No DATY. No fingers in the pussy. On the other hand her CBJ and intercourse were more spirited. It was an act, but it was a good act, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Afterwards she told me how terrible the economy was, how there was no prostitution under the Soviets because there was work for everyone, how the mob would be after her if she tried to work independently, and that she only got to keep 300 out of the 1000 EEK I had paid her. I didn't believe her of course, but tipped her an extra 200 EEK anyway. The extra $15 seemed to mean a lot more to her than I knew it did to me.

As I left that same blond girl gave me the eye one more time. That made me think that perhaps I had made a mistake. Most rip-off girls are not so persistent, and choose to go after then next guy instead. Then again there were no other guys there when I left. Oh well. There are always more *****s in the sea.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth]I wrote this about a year ago, but it may still be useful.
Feel free to post corrections/updates. neurosynth

*If choosing randomly the best girls are supposedly cruising the clubs, then at the brothel clubs, and the least attractive girls in the apartments.*

The least attractive girls in the apartments. This is false idea, you can find very attractive apartmentgirls, and those girls can earn better than clubgirls.

*For the former expect to pay a total of at least 1000 EEK and perhaps as much as 1500 EEK or more. These charges might include buying the girl a mandatory expensive drink, a cover charge, and so on.*

Clubrate is 100€=1500eek, and it is not mandatory to buy expensive drink, if girl insist that, my advice is, chance girl.

*The apartment girls might be available for 400 to 700 EEK.*

Localprice is 400eek/h, if you are tourist, they ask more. If you get europrice, you are fucked.

Once I got offer 50€/750eek , I said WHAT!? and turned around, new bid was 500eek, even that was over marketprice.

*To get to these places you have 3 choices. Get an address, look it up on a map, and walk there, OR get in a cab and give him the address OR ask to be brought to "a good place". If you do the latter note that the driver will no doubt bring you to the place that gives him the largest kickback, and oh by the way they will charge *you* for that kickback. So what would have been a 600 EEK session might turn into a 1200 EEK session. *

Normal clubprice is 1500eek. Driver gets 700eek, club 400eek, and girl gets 400eek. So, apartmentgirls might earn more than clubgirls! Lesser price, more clients!

*If you walk to a place and the price seems steep, remind them that you walked there and did not take a taxi*

Good advice, but doesn't work always. My advise is, when you arrive, make your case clear before you pay any money. My terms are; I pay 800eek, fuck one girl two times in hour. If this ain't OK. Then goodbye! Just like RLD.

*Note that addresses are often given in a format something like "Lembitu 7/23". *

Addresses might be confusing, so do your homework. [url]Www.tallinn.ee[/url] has interactive map, use it.

*Web Sites worth checking out*
[url]www.voodifoorum.com[/url] [url]www.foorum69.org[/url] both Estonian, but you can pick numbers and addresses.

*Pronksi 7 / 11 Famous place now reported as closed.*

Not closed, but different system, only one girl?
28/158/48. Efektne miniatuurne blondiin pakub lõõgastavat ja erootilist massaaži. Privaatne. Foto internetis. Snežana. She works there.

*Where possible call ahead, but also not that prostitution will not be admitted to over the phone. Sorry, but that's the way it is. When I called Tuukri 26 (below) and asked "how many girls do you have?" the response was "I am sorry sir, we are a hostel". *

You should have asked ” Do you have action?”

*** My 2 Reviews - Tuukri 26 and Red Club ***
*Tuukri 26 phone 6 605213
All in all I'd do it again. There is no way I could have an hour session with a girl of her age and looks for $80 in most other cities. But I'd have gladly paid more for some real enthusiasm.*

You were lucky, this was good service, if you compare avarage Tuukri experience.

*RC aka Red Club at Liivalaia 32

I opted to skip the sauna and take a room with her for an hour. The total cost was 1300 EEK or about $100. I was to pay 300 EEK to the house and 1000 EEK to her. I now wonder if I had mentioned that I walked rather than taking a cab if I would have been charged less, but still $100/hr seemed like a bargain to me.*

You are charged less only, if you state your position when you arrive RC. When you pick girl, then it is too late. You have fixed your position.

*how the mob would be after her if she tried to work independently*

To work independently ain't easy. You have to rent apartment, opening investment is minimum 15.000eek and every month you have to pay 6000-8000eek for landlord, water, and so on.

Place paperadds, internet, condoms, cleaning etc. Workload and lack of initial money are real reasons, not mob.

*and that she only got to keep 300 out of the 1000 EEK I had paid her. I didn't believe her of course*

I belive that she was honest. Why only 300, not 400eek? She was freelancer, those girls who are in Club's timetable get 400eek. For that, they have work no-rushhours, that is, wait at club and hope clients, and in real life, nobody enters place.

Ristor ~ The original poster was claiming that good looking English speaking girls are routinely available at much lower prices than is in fact the case.

If one speaks a modicum of Russian or Estonian, as you noted, then lower prices are available one can take the same girls that the locals do. It is very rare that girls/clubs/apartments service both markets.

Bottom line, English speaking girls can command a higher price, unless they are ugly, in which case they do not.

The original poster's contention was incorrect.

This is not really dual pricing, the girls in the apartments are rarely anything that I would want to touch with yours, let alone mine. The better looking, brighter girls tend to have some education and that means they speak some English and charge a premium for their looks, language or both. There are some girls out there who have 'secretaries' who can deal inEnglish, Finnish etc, they answer the phone and do the negotiating, this person will not be the person you end up shagging. They are paid for their work, they do a good job as a couple of girls I know use the services of a third girl to do all their bookings. It allows them to get some sleep and the secretary gets 30 Euro for each booking that actually happens. The difference in price covers that cost.

One can get a shag for quite small amounts of money if one chooses, but English speaking and attractive, at the same time, will not be on the cards. And yes, if one is personable, presentable and sociable then there is the possiblity of freebies, but most guys here do not really want that. Most guys, in the end either can not manage, or prefer to pay somebody to leave, rather than to stay. As to paying the money, if I am going to pay then I do not want to mess about with surly men in leather jackets, spotty girls from Belarus whose pussy smells of cat and negotiating a price sight unseen. If one is going to have a good time, then why mess about at the bottom end of the market in ANYTHING? I realise that there are people who just want the cheapest of everything, but I trust most are not like that. The best looking girls are in the clubs (and some of the worst - but one can easily make one's own choice!)

BTW, unless the guys that I know are very unusual - and they are not, prices at Red Club have gotten silly! Unless you are impatient, or just can not be bothered to talk to people, go over to Bonnie and Clyde.
Of the known 38 brothels that were open a year or so ago, 24 have been closed and many of the apartments have moved. The balance of the brothels are likely to get a knock on the door soonish.

X club is at [url]http://www.xclub.ee/[/url] in English the website has been updated.

QUOTE=Dusty Bin]

Bottom line, English speaking girls can command a higher price, unless they are ugly, in which case they do not.

As to paying the money, if I am going to pay then I do not want to mess about with surly men in leather jackets, spotty girls from Belarus whose pussy smells of cat and negotiating a price sight unseen. If one is going to have a good time, then why mess about at the bottom end of the market in ANYTHING? I realise that there are people who just want the cheapest of everything, but I trust most are not like that.
.[/QUOTE]

Dusty, you are 100% right!

I'm just wondering, I have visited 20+ places, where price is 400h/eek, and only twice I have seen leather jacket. Man with jacket was cabdriver, who drivers girls to English/Finnish speaking clients and price doubles. And I have never had any problems with bottom end places. Always clean towel, sometimes green russian tea.

And yes, I have been places like Golden Club, price 1500eek, no doggiestyle, police closed place Nov. 2005, Solme 3, same pricelevel, no clean towel, poor service.

This English and price is interesting question.

My claim was simply this, if client speaks English -> higher price. This is hard fact.

Can ugly girl with good command of English charge more than beautiful girl with poor English?

I have visited Estonia over 100 times, and I haven't seen any correlation with prices and girls looks or her language skills. But almost everytime I seen correlation pricebids and touristpricing. Starting cabs, haircuts, medical services etc....

[QUOTE=Dusty Bin]
Bottom line, English speaking girls can command a higher price, unless they are ugly, in which case they do not.

The best looking girls are in the clubs (and some of the worst - but one can easily make one's own choice!)[/QUOTE]Sorry, forgot, add [url]www.sloleht.ee[/url] summer 2005

19a. meeldiv uhke seksikas tiibi himura ergutava magusa kehaga pakkub värskendava massaazi ja mõmisat erootikat. Helista Marjana (19)
Place Lembitu 8
Price 300eek/½h
She speaks English

Was in Tallinn for a couple of days in business and was thinking that it would be nice to have a girl that came to the hotel instead of being at these clubs.

I have never liked to have sex at the clubs because it makes me nervous and it feels more comfortable to be on the hotelroom so i can relax and enjoy the meeting. So I contacted this maria and got her phonenumber and she agreed to meet me at the hotel.

She was 20min late to the meeting and called me and said it was much traffic so it took longer time than expected to come to the hotel.

I was relaxing in the hotel bar with a beer during the time so it did not really feel like along time to wait.

When she came she gave me a big hug and told me that she was sorry for being late.

I ordered her a drink and we was chatting for a while until we left for the room
when are glasses was empty.

She looked very nice and the sex was incredible good, it is her on the picture she have a link to in the advertisement.

She did not look to much on the clock and did really take care of me.

After the meeting it was time for her to leave and i felt like i was missing her when she left ;-(

This is bad because I know its not good to fall in love with a working girl.

I already plan another trip to Tallinn now and will try to find some other nice girls there if I don't take one more meeting with maria, we will see what happens.

There is like a lottery to call on these advertisements if the girl is as nice as in the pic and description but this one really was!

Best regards from a satisfied Tallinn visitor!

[QUOTE=Brillo]I have never liked to have sex at the clubs because it makes me nervous and it feels more comfortable to be on the hotelroom so i can relax and enjoy the meeting. So I contacted this maria and got her phonenumber and she agreed to meet me at the hotel.

She was 20min late to the meeting and called me and said it was much traffic so it took longer time than expected to come to the hotel.

I was relaxing in the hotel bar with a beer during the time so it did not really feel like along time to wait. [/QUOTE]Just wondering, you stayed at Hotel Tallink? As far I understand they are not so girlfriendly after 19.00 o'clock. Or girlfriendly at all.

Good first post Brillo:)

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[QUOTE=Ristor]Just wondering, you stayed at Hotel Tallink? As far I understand they are not so girlfriendly after 19.00 o'clock. Or girlfriendly at all.[/QUOTE]

Tallink is just fine, unless the guest is the problem.

Here is the most visited forum in estonia: [url=http://www.foorum69.org]http://www.foorum69.org[/url]

You can find there girls adresses, phone numbers etc.

Very good place.

well thats pretty useful koger, who do we know who speaks estonian? as there is no english used here its pretty useless

Gents,

Here is a Jan 22, 2006 Sunday Travel section article from the New York Times. Seems the mongering hobby environment in Tallinn won't be getting better anytime soon but there's still plenty to do in Estonia's "adult" Disneyland... (personally, Doctor Death's Military Academy appeals to me -- a AKM-47 is one of the few examples of "sexy" Soviet engineering).

Party Capital of the Year: Tallinn, Estonia
By SETH SHERWOOD (NYTimes)

WHEN the British guidebook author Laurence Shorter was sent to research Tallinn, the capital of Estonia, a couple of years ago, he knew little about it and had no idea what to expect. "I have to admit," he recalled recently, "I didn't really know where it was."

Six weeks later, Mr. Shorter emerged with a vastly improved sense of the city's location (on the Baltic Sea) and a newfound appreciation of its "full-time party culture," as he described the local vibe in the fruit of his adventure: a slick, hardbound directory of decadent addresses called "A Hedonist's Guide to Tallinn."

The 2004 guide - which lists pubs with handcuff-carrying waitresses, nightclubs with scantily clad dancers, and stylish restaurants representing every corner of the globe - has become a minor bible for the rapidly growing ranks of "time-poor, cash-rich 30-something partiers" heading to Tallinn, as Mr. Shorter described his audience.

How did a city smaller than Fresno, Calif., (population about 400,000) in a former Soviet backwater explode into a hot spot whose "Hedonist Guide" companions include the likes of Madrid and Miami?

The dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 and Estonia's integration into the European Union in 2004 have done much to open the nation of 1.4 million. So have budget-airline flights connecting Tallinn with Western European capitals.

But simple geography plays the main role. Just 50 miles across the Gulf of Finland from Helsinki, Tallinn gets a whopping injection of cash and conviviality from the more than half-million Finns who head across every year - frequently on multiple daily "booze cruises" - to exploit Tallinn's significantly cheaper alcohol.

Pockets filled with kroons (about 13 of them equal a dollar), motivated pleasure-seekers can smoke Cuban cigars at La Casa del Habano, watch rugby over a pint at Scotland Yard, sip cocktails in the Scandi-chic interiors of R.I.F.F., boogie at the huge Club Hollywood or elite Club Prive, watch women lose their clothes at the Soho strip club, and then lose their own shirts at Bally's Casino.

But Finns are increasingly quaffing alongside a new crowd: British bachelor-partyers. Take a summer stroll in the Old Town - the city's medieval center - and you're likely to find a host of Mr. Shorter's besotted countrymen weaving over the cobblestones and into myriad pubs and beer cellars. Many are sent by Tallinn Pissup, a three-year-old travel agency whose sole mission is to send bachelor parties to slosh through the various forms of decadence in the Estonian capital. (It has sister companies for Prague, Budapest and Bratislava.)

"It's quite exciting, because the local populations, especially there in Tallinn, have a great imagination for different activities," says Neil Smith, a founder and marketing manager of Tallinn Pissup. These include parachute jumping, demolition derbies, Doctor Death's Military Academy (machine-gun training) and a "Medieval Lesbian Stripper Show" in an Old Town cellar.

When the effects of all that late-night partying wears off, drinkers' eyes can take advantage of the Old Town's fairy-tale sights, including Middle Ages' houses merchants' guilds, chapels, monasteries and the soaring needlelike spire of St. Olaf's church. Better yet, they can hit the rustic Town Hall Square and its famous 15th-century pharmacy, which still offers relief from ye olde hangover.

Live a Full Live, Without Regret, and Die With a Smile on Your Face! Lee

Mikado and Red Club have been closed!

when and why?

tried this one out

[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilas_tiedot.php?lang_so=&n=Alisa17&i=etukuva.jpg&city=Tallinn&land=EST[/url]

met the blonde in the middle. nothing amazing, but still quite good. she was telling me, that the three of them used to work in a house in pirita, but now are back at school and working through this advert of the internet.

they speak good english for those who are interested.

tiger.

Thanks Tiger888 i will call them next time and try :-)

Tried this one [url]www.tallinn-escorts.com[/url]
and I was happy with her.

Anyone else who can recommend some girls?

Hello boys!

The weather start to get better and better here in Tallinn and not so cold as it was a couple of weeks ago so make your travel bag ready, book tickets and come here for a visit: -) If it still is cold I can keep you warm; -) Was a pleasure to meet some of you boys from the forum so I hope you want to come back!

See you soon!

//Maria

(See my ad in the advertisement section)

Hi guys,

I'm going to Tallinn end of this week, and I need help and advice where to go for pussy hunting.

If any one is in the city then lets get together.

Hi all,

A bit of a late report and the location information will be murky, sorry. I was back in Estonia in February. I got really messed up drunk one night, found a taxi driver and proposed he "take me to the girls". We went out to the Ülemiste area to a place he called Dekada or Deskada or something like that. Basic setup, like at Tükri 26 or RedClub or the old Morgan. About 8 or 9 girls there ranging from 5s to near 9s. These are mostly Russians bussed in from Narva, natch. A couple of older ones (but hot) motioned for me to sit with them. They tried to talk me into a threesome, but I was taken with a young girl named Anya. She was about 22 or 23, a little bit round in places, but really nice tits and a great smile. Something about her said that she'd fuck like crazy. The cost is a steep for Estonia, 1500 krones for an hour, but I plead impaired judgment. Pay the fee and off to the room.

Once in the room, Anya indeed turned out to be a tiger. She did ask 500 extra for oral without which again I paid that night but probably wouldn't have in other situations. Her oral without was pretty good, just the right combination of suction and saliva. Then on with the condom. She told me she wanted me on top which was weird for a house in my experience (most girls I've seen say they want it from behind - likely because it's less intimate that way). She even kissed a little while we were doing it (not really deep kisses but oh well). We did move to doggy for a little bit. I felt the pressure building but decided to try to hold it to see if something good would happen. This time my wish was granted. I laid back and she started on my orally again. I felt my completion coming and told her. She kept on sucking hard and I nutted in her mouth. It was great and even better when she kept me in her mouth until every last drop was out of me. No swallow, though, she then spat it out into a towel. But still a great experience. I'd definitely see Anya again.

But this is where the story gets sad - and where the alcohol kicked in even more. I decided for my next session to go for Irina, the 9. She was a severely cute little blondie. This girl was really hot & young (18 or 19 I think). I hoped that I had found my dream *****, a girl who was young and hot but willing to fuck like crazy. Boy was I disappointed. This girl was all business. And no sex. Claimed it was her time. Just oral and hand and not very good at that either. I was pissed. I guess she thought I'd just take it and not say anything. However, I speak just enough Russian to tell mama that I wasn't happy at all. She refunded 1000 of my fee. I was pretty fucked up at that point so didn't press for the other 500 (the size of the security guard made me think twice also).

So all in all, if you're not familiar with Tallinn, don't have contacts, and don't mind shelling out a bunch of money, try Dekada. But don't go for a cute blonde named Irina. You'll be sorely disappointed.

[QUOTE=Zadig]So all in all, if you're not familiar with Tallinn, don't have contacts, and don't mind shelling out a bunch of money, try Dekada. But don't go for a cute blonde named Irina. You'll be sorely disappointed.[/QUOTE]These things can happen if you get drunk in Tallin. You can also get mugged or killed. I recommend sobriety for anyone who goes to monger in Tallinn.

[QUOTE=Ristor]QUOTE=Dusty Bin]

Bottom line, English speaking girls can command a higher price, unless they are ugly, in which case they do not.

As to paying the money, if I am going to pay then I do not want to mess about with surly men in leather jackets, spotty girls from Belarus whose pussy smells of cat and negotiating a price sight unseen. If one is going to have a good time, then why mess about at the bottom end of the market in ANYTHING? I realise that there are people who just want the cheapest of everything, but I trust most are not like that.[/QUOTE]Dusty, you are 100% right!

I'm just wondering, I have visited 20+ places, where price is 400h/eek, and only twice I have seen leather jacket. Man with jacket was cabdriver, who drivers girls to English/Finnish speaking clients and price doubles. And I have never had any problems with bottom end places. Always clean towel, sometimes green russian tea.

And yes, I have been places like Golden Club, price 1500eek, no doggiestyle, police closed place Nov. 2005, Solme 3, same pricelevel, no clean towel, poor service.

This English and price is interesting question.

My claim was simply this, if client speaks English -> higher price. This is hard fact.

Can ugly girl with good command of English charge more than beautiful girl with poor English?

I have visited Estonia over 100 times, and I haven't seen any correlation with prices and girls looks or her language skills. But almost everytime I seen correlation pricebids and touristpricing. Starting cabs, haircuts, medical services etc....[/QUOTE]


This is total nonsense IMO.

[QUOTE=Spiderman1]Mikado and Red Club have been closed![/QUOTE]More news about that? What was the reason of the closing?

Does it seems the beginning of a generalized crackdown or there were problems just about those two brothels?

I was at Red Club last summer: not bad girls but too much expensive and unpleasant bartenders. But I'm not happy it has been closed ... :(

Hello,

I find today this Website with beautiful Baltic Escorts:

[url]http://baltic-escorts.promweb.de[/url]

Somebody have something to review about the Girls there?

Thanks

Dear friends! I was in Tallinn last weekend and did some checkups on my old mongering places, It looks like the police has closed most of the "hostel-brothels" that for some reason could exist for so long. Tukri is closed, Red Club is closed and according to my cab driver this is becaude of legal problems with the police.

Another tip on taxis, make sure that you check the prices prior to entering the cab, the leagally have to present 3 prices outside the cab. 1. Start Cost 2. Price/km (5 EEK is good, 15 or even 30 exists) 3. price for 1 hour waitingtime.

Take care

Dear friends of Tallinn,

After 3 years of absence I will visit Tallinn again in mid June. I was wondering how the Streetwalker Scene has developed since then ? Where can SW be found ? Which are the busiest places at the moment ?

Thanks & Regards !

Happy Traveller

Stayed at Sokos Viru Hotel at the end of Viru in Tallinn centre. Great hotel other than after 10pm wants to charge additional guests 500EEK to visit. This is the only hotel in Tallinn to do this.

Thursday 15th June 1am went for walk down Viru, approached by attractive mid 20s girl, 1000EEK for one hour, on hearing that was Staying at the Sokus Viru offered to take me to local massage parlour that would cost 200EEK. Declined and went to bed on own.

Thursday pm after doing some research on web called Snezana (5’ 6” slim & tanned) who is mentioned in previous reports. Agreed to have on hour in Viru hotel for 600EEK later in afternoon. Very attractive, late 20s Estonian with Russian background, perfunctory massage, covered oral with black condom which looked strange compared to western pink ones, enthusiastic reverse cowgirl then doggie to finish. Overall about 40 minutes of energetic sex but without kissing. Would have seen her again, but she was going on a weeks holiday to Russia on Friday and had left by the time I called on Friday afternoon. Contact: 555 55 231, accurate photos: [url]http://streamphoto.ru/users/snezana/81502/[/url]

Friday midnight, another walk down Viru, met Irina (5’ 6” slim with some tattoos, early 30’s Estonian with Russian background) agreed 1000EEK and 200EEK for room in Massage / Sauna. Had own Sauna and small cold pool for 200EEK for 1 hour although didn’t use either facility as there were better things to do. Had good massage, some kissing and licking of cock and balls before covered oral and enthusiastic cowgirl and missionary. Not quite a GFE, but good. Downside was additional 35EEK for orange juice and then 300EEK for her taxi home. Altogether on the expensive side. Irina couldn’t remember her phone number but said she would call the hotel with it and leave a message for me as I was meeting friends later - which she did.

Saturday afternoon called Irina again and she came to hotel for 1 hour for 1000EEK. Initally she arrived with babysitter, and then after receiving the payment left to take the babysitter home to show her the works, offering and leaving her handbag as security for her return. An hour later she was back and after she had put the TV on to get some sound, I had an amazing hour+ GFE, kissing, licking cock, owo, ball sucking and then on with condom for sex in a number of positions to the background of a Harry Potter film. Irina asked for another 300EEK for taxis which I paid, and when she had left I found that the film was on one of the pay channels so that was another 180EEK. Contact: 580 85 191.

Overall Snezana was the more attractive of the two, less than half the cost but whilst the sex was good I seemed to be doing more of the work. Would have liked to have seen her again. Irina really got into it and I had a great time, but the costs did mount up. If going back I would also try Escort Service in Tallinn Estonia who were very helpful but couldn’t fit me in the time I had left. Contact: 582 40 581, [url]www.tallinn-escorts.com[/url] . Both recommended in their own way.

[QUOTE=Tradsweet]If going back I would also try Escort Service in Tallinn Estonia who were very helpful but couldn’t fit me in the time I had left. Contact: 582 40 581, [url]www.tallinn-escorts.com[/url] . Both recommended in their own way.[/QUOTE]Thank you for recommendation and nice to see that you was satisfied
with the service you got in phone.

We try to do our best to make it easy for the customers to setup a meeting and customer satisfaction is also our goal.

Maybe next time.

I've been to Tallinn several times, but I have to admit that it was years ago that I visited a girl in Tallinn - can someone tell me if there are any good brothes ("houses") in town nwodays? and are there still any apartments left?

With all the best,

Natten

I've been to Tallinn a few times, but I've to admit that Ive havnt met a girl in Tallinn for years - can someone give me an updated report for the city? Are there any houses (brothels) still in town (in pirita?) and are there any apartment-brothels still in town?

With all the best.

Natten

Many houses have been closed down during the last year but there are still some operating. Koidu (only take out) and Tihase are open and there are a few new houses in Pirita, just ask a cab driver and he will take you there.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Spiderman1]Many houses have been closed down during the last year but there are still some operating. Koidu (only take out) and Tihase are open and there are a few new houses in Pirita, just ask a cab driver and he will take you there.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Thanks Spiderman!

What are the prices nowdays for "entertainment" at the houses?

The usual price is 1500eek / hour!

cafe amigo - viru street, has a few workers inside the club each night, some o.k average 1500 eek 1 hour, a few street walkers outside around the park same fee 1000 to 1500 per hour, early 20's from uraine etc

Check out [url]www.hedone.ee[/url] for a very nice erotic massage experience in central old town.

Was there in July checked the local classifieds and hooked up with a couple of locals whow called to check prices / location etc, got a cab for 30 eek to an apartment 5 mins drive from old town square, had a half hour session - massage, covered bj, straight sex for 400 eek with a nice russian lady, very little english so try and get a local to arrange it.

Check out [url]www.captain69.co.uk[/url] for a world escort search - direct links to sites.

All in all a nice time, next time will get an apartment as most hotels are a little funny or charge a fee to bring girls after midnight.

James

[QUOTE=Spiderman1]The usual price is 1500eek / hour![/QUOTE]Thanks for the information Spiderman! Seems that the prices havent changed since I was in Tallinn a few years ago. Are you updated with the stripclubs aswell? is X-Club still the best one in Tallinn? And do you know if there are any "apartment"-brothels still running? I have read that the Police have closed down a few houses lately :(

By the way, can you recommend any hotels where its possible to order girls through hotelrecption?

Regards,

Natten

Natten,

Haven't been to any "apartment brothels" but you can checkout these web pages, [url]www.voodi.ee[/url] and [url]www.voodi.com[/url], they have some ads. I have heard that the receptionists at hotel Stroomi and Dorell can arrange girls, don't know about quality but I think you can get it cheap! :) Last time I was in Tallinn I went to Mister XXX, had a great time but it ended up being quite expensive with all the champagne and wine bottles, I actually ended up taking a dancer out of there... no sex though! :(

[QUOTE=James331]cafe amigo - viru street, has a few workers inside the club each night, some o.k average 1500 eek 1 hour, a few street walkers outside around the park same fee 1000 to 1500 per hour, early 20's from uraine etc

Check out [url]www.hedone.ee[/url] for a very nice erotic massage experience in central old town.

Was there in July checked the local classifieds and hooked up with a couple of locals whow called to check prices / location etc, got a cab for 30 eek to an apartment 5 mins drive from old town square, had a half hour session - massage, covered bj, straight sex for 400 eek with a nice russian lady, very little english so try and get a local to arrange it.

Check out [url]www.captain69.co.uk[/url] for a world escort search - direct links to sites.

All in all a nice time, next time will get an apartment as most hotels are a little funny or charge a fee to bring girls after midnight.

James[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info James!

In which paper did you find the adds? How many girls could you chose from at the apartment?

Best regards and thanks in advance,

Natten

[QUOTE=Natten]Thanks for the information Spiderman! Seems that the prices havent changed since I was in Tallinn a few years ago. Are you updated with the stripclubs aswell? is X-Club still the best one in Tallinn? And do you know if there are any "apartment"-brothels still running? I have read that the Police have closed down a few houses lately :(

By the way, can you recommend any hotels where its possible to order girls through hotelrecption?

Regards,

Natten[/QUOTE]Its also possible to call the girls and have them come to your hotel
without going through the reception.

Try this one

[url]www.tallinn-escorts.com[/url]

Maria

I hear that Mikado has re-opened!

this report is a result of reading the forum and exploring tallinn for three nights on my own, first time there. my mongering style these days is to enjoy the game of looking for it, and partake when i find something i like, not too urgent. i am looking mainly for company in my hotel.

when you learn things about mongering wherever you go, please report them in the forum to help the rest of us, even if it is short.

[b]non-pro's on a saturday night in city center[/b]

walking near hotel sakos viru on a saturday night around 1am, i got a friendly smile from one of three ladies heading into a bar. clearly not working girls: a different kind of eye contact than "the look," more like a friendly flirt. i followed them in to cafe amigo (ground level of hotel sakos viru, a landmark in city center at the end of viru street).

long story short, they were friendly and glad to have my company, and for me to buy them drinks of course. i think i almost had the one who spoke the best english. feedback from a friend: i should have waited until the bar closed. they don't want to be seen as "easy" and leave with me before then, but if you're outside and the conversation is "where should we go" it might lead to the room. the places closes at 5am, i think, and i was bushed.

they were mostly interested in estonians, and they rejected an offer from some finnish guys while i was there. they hated russians - talked a lot about that. i'm from usa, which seemed to be ok with them.

it wasn't all that expensive to buy a bunch of drinks - i figure i spent around us$56 total, including the door fee for me. i generally have not been really lucky with the non-pro scene, and i found the experience encouraging.

[b]wgs on the street and in clubs[/b]

another report here said that cafe amigo has working girls, too. i had not read it, and thus was not looking for them, but i did not see any obvious wgs. indeed, i did not see any on the streets that have been discussed here, even in the later evenings on saturday, sunday, monday.

[b]reval hotel olümpia and clubs there[/b]

my hotel was the reval hotel olümpia (on the edge of city center, corner liivalaia and a. lauteri). the elevators are in front, and the reception desk is around the corner, so it seems like it would be easy to go right up with a lady without any hotel discussion. i was amused to find two condoms in the minibar.

on my last night, i was walking by englishman's pub (ground level at reval hotel olümpia), a lady who had been in the toilet said hello as she returned to the bar. i took that as an invitation to discuss business. we chatted awhile, she was fluent in english. long story short: she was happy to go to my room with me, but she asked for 3000 eek, almost $250, and went down to 2000 eek. i did not bargain mush because i did not expect her to get to a price i was willing to pay (like 1000). there were four other ladies in waiting. i would put them in their 30s or early 40s, not bad looking for their age, but nothing like beautiful young babes either. i expect their customers are probably older/middle-aged businessmen.

also in the ground level at reval hotel olümpia is a club called bonnie and clyde's. i am told there are some working girls there, but the line to get in on a saturday night seemed to be younger, well-dressed estonian men and women, perhaps younger than the average at cafe amigo. thus you might try for a regular local girl at one of these two places, choosing on the basis of your age.

[b]other options around city center and old town[/b]

city center has some strip clubs which are discussed in this forum, and probably a place you can get action, and probably not cheaply. you could also spend a lot on lady drinks if you aren't careful. old town (adjacent to city center) has some massage places discussed in this thread, and others. i did not try them, but i expect that some or most offer at least hj service, but some might be therapeutic only (i.e. no extras). you'll find urls to some escort sites in reports on this thread, including one advertiser and a report from a guy who met her. the apartment scene is reportedly substantially less available, but not gone either. finally, there are a number of sex shops all over the place where you can get supplies and toys.

[b]summary[/b]

overall i would say tallinn was neither hopping with activity, nor dead. you could find it if you want it enough to pay the money. i don't think it is a place to find bargains.

[b]some recent reports i found useful[/b]
[list][*]james331 on [post=499620]old town[/post][*]tradsweet on [post=478638]tallinn mid june[/post][*]zadig on [post=449236]dekada (?)[/post][*]brillo meets [post=415549]maria who advertises here[/post][*]maria advertising [post=425263]an escort agency[/post][*]neurosynth gives [post=413976]an overview of mongering in tallinn[/post][/list]
[if you find this report useful, take a moment and post it in the reports of distinction. somehow it seems presumptuous to post one's own there.]

I have an old mate who is a serious sex tourist, now in his 40’s and living in Thailand. Lets call him Jim, and like me his weakness is sex. He also reads all the sex forums but rarely ever writes. He is home on holiday at the moment, and we got around to comparing our various sexploits around the world. This guy used to visit Germany in the late 80’s and did the whole FKK thing before there were many FKK clubs.

We were out for a drink tonite, and he then showed me some interesting video. He reckoned that the best places he ever went for free sex in Europe were Latvia and Estonia. He first visited with work in 1993. He says that back then there were almost no bars or restaurants in either Tallinn or Riga. Both countries were fresh out of communism, and they were really gloomy places. But the women just used to hang around everywhere, and in the city centre they would literally walk up to foreign guys, and try and chat in their broken English. He says some of them were sneaky and only wanted to be brought to a restaurant, and then they would fuck off home, but quite a few would agree to have sex after a meal or some drinks.

He showed me some video footage that he since transferred to his laptop, which he shot in June 1993 of the main square in Tallinn, and you could clearly see groups of girls just standing around. It was around 8pm, and in the footage he swapped the camera between him and his mate, and they walked up to several of the girls, who were only delighted to be chatted up and filmed. A couple of girls even walked over to the guys to introduce themselves. The video then cut to a bar, when he and his mate had two very hot blonde girls in their early 20’s at their table. It then cut to about 2 am, and the two girls were cuddled in a hotel room bed, after the guys had shagged them. Apparently the girls wouldn’t allow the guys to film them while having sex.

He visited both cities regularly from 93 to 95, and then went back last month for the first time in over 10 years, and just visited Tallinn. He says he couldn’t believe the difference. The place was overrun with tourists and he couldn’t get any local women to even talk to him. I first visited in 2000, and even then there were still a lot of free sexual possibilities. But when I visited again in 2002, it had noticeably changed for the worse.

I think Latvia and Estonia are now totally dead.

Ditto Wan King,

And the Baltic girls were the best specimens, tall, blonde, slim, gorgeous, and educated to fuck like Russians.....was gods gift.

trully spoiled by hoardes of tourists which weren't helped by drunk brits/finns, sleazy italians, and the general westernisation of the east...nothing against the above but most lack being tactful and harvesting the fruits of the north....Russia and Ukraine are probably last chances to explore before we have to play Sex and the City games with every Phycho New York inspired girl to get home base.

am very jealous of those early explorers

rgds
VB

[QUOTE=Wan King]I have an old mate who is a serious sex tourist, now in his 40’s and living in Thailand. Lets call him Jim, and like me his weakness is sex. He also reads all the sex forums but rarely ever writes. He is home on holiday at the moment, and we got around to comparing our various sexploits around the world. This guy used to visit Germany in the late 80’s and did the whole FKK thing before there were many FKK clubs.

We were out for a drink tonite, and he then showed me some interesting video. He reckoned that the best places he ever went for free sex in Europe were Latvia and Estonia. He first visited with work in 1993. He says that back then there were almost no bars or restaurants in either Tallinn or Riga. Both countries were fresh out of communism, and they were really gloomy places. But the women just used to hang around everywhere, and in the city centre they would literally walk up to foreign guys, and try and chat in their broken English. He says some of them were sneaky and only wanted to be brought to a restaurant, and then they would fuck off home, but quite a few would agree to have sex after a meal or some drinks.

He showed me some video footage that he since transferred to his laptop, which he shot in June 1993 of the main square in Tallinn, and you could clearly see groups of girls just standing around. It was around 8pm, and in the footage he swapped the camera between him and his mate, and they walked up to several of the girls, who were only delighted to be chatted up and filmed. A couple of girls even walked over to the guys to introduce themselves. The video then cut to a bar, when he and his mate had two very hot blonde girls in their early 20’s at their table. It then cut to about 2 am, and the two girls were cuddled in a hotel room bed, after the guys had shagged them. Apparently the girls wouldn’t allow the guys to film them while having sex.

He visited both cities regularly from 93 to 95, and then went back last month for the first time in over 10 years, and just visited Tallinn. He says he couldn’t believe the difference. The place was overrun with tourists and he couldn’t get any local women to even talk to him. I first visited in 2000, and even then there were still a lot of free sexual possibilities. But when I visited again in 2002, it had noticeably changed for the worse.

I think Latvia and Estonia are now totally dead.[/QUOTE]

I will be travelling in Europe in mid-November and will have about 4 days to spend in either Tallinn or Riga. Which is the better city for picking up local girls and which city is better for pros? Who has the better looking women?

Much appreciated.

Walt

Both places are shit for local girls these days unless u are a real good looking young stud. Are you?

Wan

That was one of the most depressing posts I have read.
The sad thing is, I have only been going to Tallinn since 2003 and I have seen a huge difference. I probably just caught the tail end of what your friend was talking about.
The only thing that makes me feel better is that I was straight out of university and still relatively broke in 1993-1995 so I probably wouldn't have made it over even if I had heard of the Baltics, but that's small comfort!

Walt
if you are talking about non-pros don't come with any illusions that it will be much different these days to trying to pull in London or Paris or Madrid.

Wan King's and Vitoriabitter's reports describe how mass tourism and westernization changes places all over the world - in terms of mongering it's a pitty of course!

I was in Tallinn during June 06 and attended a NGO congress there. I didn't found much time to monger around. But I got some impression about the scene on the saturday i when I had 'a day off'.

I left my group saturday afternoon and strayed through Tallinn's old town and had a couple of drinks in beer gardens.

Apparently there was no difference in comming into contact with local girls, than in any other westernized city in europe. So I wasn't attracted by going for a long-run work on girls and didn't spend much attention to them.

In the evening, after watching football in a pub (hard rock pub) I checked out some of the nearby bars and found a busy place crowded with young locals (russians and estonians).

There an older guy approached me while I was sitting at the bar. He started to gab and I was concentrated on half what he talked to me and half what was going on in the bar.

They guy invited me to his table and so I found myself sitting together with two old stagers of German origin. They both had some kind of flirt with the waitresses of this bar. And that was a reason to keep sitting there and watch what's going on.

I learned that these guys are frequent visitors there and that they pay the waitresses some drinks from time to time. That's their way to have a foot in the door and keep the waitresses tempered for a later occassion. But since there wasn't any form of body contact, I assume it doesn't happen on a frequent basis.

After two hours of strong drinking, I decided to go back to my hotel, which is located at Tallinn's main station (forgot the name).

For that I had to cross most of the old town and a bigger park, and the only one people I saw around where couples enjoying the mid-summer.

So no easy occassion to approach local girls, no pros in the old town or the park - frankly said it was boring for a mongerer, but luckily I had female contact with members of our group (LOL).

The best thing in Tallinn was definitely the mid-summer -great thing and worthwhile to go back in June once again (or to Helsinki..)!

Regards

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I strongly agree with recent reports on Baltics being dead for mongering. No doubt girls there are most beautiful in the world but it is not easy to meet girls if you are there just for a few days and p4p is very limited. In part it is due to fact that total population of cities like Riga, Tallinn etc is very small in comparison to let's say Prague.

If mongering is your goal, head somewhere else.

Blaah,

still there are many lonely poor girls who have child/ren. You just have to find out these rags and limp in. Also in Tallinn you can find out many places filled up with tourists, but many times (americans expecially) are too shy to pick up girls.
Thats fact that these days picking up girls isn`t that easy there than it was before, but still one can find their dream girl there more easily than from middle europe (where girls are extremely ugly = ecpecially in Britain and in Italy).
Glad that I did already find my wife from there, but still there is a change.

My Ferrari is my wife and she is from Estonia (actually estonian-russian)!!!!

I heard that it would be a great hit if there were black girls in brothels in Estonia.

This week I´ve had five very good experiences here in private appartments. Price-range 25 - 42 euros - not bad!

Naturally, all Russian girls. Mostly they do not speak Estonian - that´s one of the main reasons they works as hookers!

So the key here is to know the languages and the culture. Pity the occasional tourist!

[quote=love ganster]

i had five good 42 eu russian hookers

pity the tourist!

[/quote]

lg
ya know you wouldn't have to feel sorry for us, if you could give us a little peek at what you're snaggin ;)

[quote=bez bezarra]lg,

ya know you wouldn't have to feel sorry for us, if you could give us a little peek at what you're snaggin ;)[/quote]and if i do, all you horny dudes rush in with your bundles of dollars/euros, the prices go up, and i can't afford to visit my regular private appartements any more?

so, what's in it for me?

This is a board that shares info, experiences and lots more.........

Such a short sighted and selfish post is not something we seek to see on the board....so why did you bother posting?

Don't bother posting again if you are just going to gode the regular, genuine contributors!

[QUOTE=Bbois77]

Such a short sighted and selfish post is not something we seek to see on the board....so why did you bother posting?[/QUOTE]I'm just being realistic. Sorry if the Truth hurts!

[QUOTE=Love Ganster]

All horny dudes rush prices up and I can't visit apartment any more

So?

[/QUOTE]

So.....

I might be wrong about this, but the throngs of fat-wallet mongers
breathlessly waiting to bound into Tallin may only be real in your
imagination?

You just seemed to be real excited in your first post, and some of us are simply curious if your 25-42 euro russian pros are hot sluts, plain janes, or nasty pigs.

How satisfying our curiosity with a foto, is supposed to result in 'something
in it for you', well, we're not really sure how that works exactly.

Since you are new, you should learn that mongers who post fotos are not doing so because there is "something in it for them".

Posting fotos is very basic and simple, we do it, because we can.

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]

Posting fotos is very basic and simple, we do it, because we can.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, mate! My aim was not to offend, only to send a message: "Don't be a tourist in Tallinn! Get into the culture - it's worth the trouble, also money-wise!".

Regarding fotos No Can Do.

My latest hooker in Tallinn, Katja 22 yrs., shouted "NO Foto!" very strongly. Besides, wouldn't posting fotos require a membership fee?

Anyway, greetings from Riga, Latvia. Just got back to the hotel from visiting a nice 23 yrs. part -time hooker. Only 29 euros! The streets here are freezing cold, but I'm having a wonderfully warm feeling in the body thanks to the orgasm. She even gave a little bit of back-rub massage.

Guess what. First of all she showed some photos of herself with her Middle- Eastern husband, now travelling abroad.

When we fucked doggy-style and I was about to make some noise, she hushed me to keep quiet. Reason: Her two little kids vere in the neighboring room!

One thing is sure: I'll remember this Christmas Day in Riga!

[QUOTE=Love Ganster]

Does posting fotos require a membership fee?

[/QUOTE]

Feel free to share.

Also, when she proclaims "NO fotos!", you'll find offering
a small tip often results in a quick reversal of that. ;)

Finally, membership is very affordable. After you join,
you will not be disappointed when you start viewing the
many interesting pics others have contributed in the spirit
of mongering/exploration of the various flavors of pussy
across the globe.

Sign up today! :D

[url]http://www.voodi.com/naine-otsib-meest.php?type_id=3&page=3&action=show_results[/url]

plenty of phone numbers here.

also

[url]http://www.foorum69.org/gallery_view_album.php?cid=1[/url]

the apartments seemed to have dried up from a couple of years back - there are still a few around, but nothing fantastic (imho)

couple i know of, endla 94, pronski 7/1, pronski 7/11, lastekodu 18, maakri 44.

Love Ganster, share the knowledge, its makes for more fun for everyone.

tiger.

[QUOTE=Tiger888]plenty of phone numbers here.

also

[url]http://www.foorum69.org/gallery_view_album.php?cid=1[/url][/QUOTE]Just created an English Pages there as well in order to share information more WW and so you wouldn't also spend any pennies on those girls who are not worth it.

I'm pretty sure that English speaking customers pay more then Estonian speakers, so speak up!

Have a nice spendings in Estonia!

In between 1999 to 2004, I visited Tallinn about 20 times purely for mongering purposes! I would divide this time in to three distinct phases.

In the first phase between 1999-2001, it was hard to miss! I would show up and pull a freebie from any number of clubs and bars! If you spoke English and had some money and were out in the oldtown section of town, you would have your choice of would be brides of the night! Life was very very good indeed! There were houses (brothels) and many working girls in all clubs and bars. But really there was no need to pay directly: I still remember spending a week in Tallinn and sleeping with a different girl every night; all freebies apart from cost of drinks and food and small presents here and there:) I am very much an average Joe in terms of looks and game.

In the second phase, between 2001-2003, it became more challenging! Girls started getting pickier! You had to have a game plan. You had to spend time on ICQ to setup dates and the girls had to be satisfied that you were going to be around in Tallinn long-term and that you had some real money in your pocket. Still having a foreign boyfriend who spent money and was fun to be with was considered a good catch for most girls. Although more challenging, Tallinn was still my favorite destination for mongering:)

In the third phase, post 2004, I was shocked to find that being an English speaking foreigner had become a distinct disadvantage in the oldtown of Tallinn!!The oldtown of Tallinn was full of single foreign men who drank much too much beer and chased anything female in the worst kind of way. Frankly, I dont enjoy being around such crowd and to add insult to injury, I could no longer pull any freebies from any club or bar. The girls had heard every story I could come up with and had become almost unapproachable. Oh yes, Estonia now part of EU, had also become as expensive as most European capitals or to be fair, one could no longer consider Tallinn to be a cheap location as far as western accomodation, food and mongering was concerned.

The party as I knew it was over in 2004! One last note, from all the girls I knew from Tallinn whom I have kept in touch with three: two lnow ive in the UK and the third married a Canandian and now lives in Vancouver.

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[QUOTE=Poker Player 2] The girls had heard every story I could come up with and had become almost unapproachable. Oh yes, Estonia now part of EU, had also become as expensive as most European capitals or to be fair, one could no longer consider Tallinn to be a cheap location as far as western accomodation, food and mongering was concerned. [/QUOTE]Totally false.

Tallinn is still about half the price of any European capital. Food-wise, accomodation-wise, pussy-wise.

IF u know what to buy and where.

But judging from u r story, u never got into the "In Crowd".

You were always a tourist, and always will be.

Sorry for yo!

[QUOTE=Love Ganster]Totally false.

Tallinn is still about half the price of any European capital. Food-wise, accomodation-wise, pussy-wise.

IF you know what to buy and where.

But judging from u r story, u never got into the "In Crowd".

You were always a tourist, and always will be.

Sorry for yo![/QUOTE]Has it occurred to you that your postings add ZERO value to the forum? All you do is drop some names with no contact info, no photos or anything of substance whatsoever. This along with some inane assertions of how great the scene is in Tallinn. "in crowd", my ass.

You're neither informative nor entertaining. Please find some other forum to practice your "dictionary english". Thank you!

[QUOTE=Poker Player 2]The party as I knew it was over in 2004! One last note, from all the girls I knew from Tallinn whom I have kept in touch with three: two lnow ive in the UK and the third married a Canandian and now lives in Vancouver.[/QUOTE]

Poker Player, I completely agree with you.

The only thing about Latvia, and Estonia is that there still are certain Russian girls who will become your "girlfriend" if you have the money and you REALLY splash it. Doesnt matter what you look like, its all about the cash flow. Treat em well for a few days and they will have sex with you cos they will want to keep your cash flowing into their purses for the longest possible time, in the same way that you want your sperm flowing into her pussy for the longest time possible.

And just treating her is not enough either, you will have to treat her friends and family members aswell. And on top of all that, the first sign of being mean or not wanting to spend, and the jigs up.

For the money that you need to spend on these women, you could fuck dozens of FKK girls in Germany.

Wan king,

I appreciate that one could rent a girlfriend as you describe but I dare say you could do just as well in other parts of the world if you spent as much cash as you suggest.

On my last visit to Tallinn in 2004, you certainly could meet pros in clubs who would look you straight in the eye and quote you 200 euros an hour, you could still meet somewhat skanky looking girls outside of Cafe amigo (viru Hotel) on the street who would quote you 1000 eek for the hour and I even went to a house in the Lasnamae district of Tallinn where there were girls available for 600-1200 eek per hour. Ofcourse, the Red Club off of livalia was open at the time costing 1500 + eek per hour with a decent selection as well. Again it is a question of taste and outlook: I find it offensive to pay 200 euros an hour for club girls----- who is doing who here:)?, and I have no intention of paying money for sex for average or skanky looking girls at lower prices. Ofcourse, others may disagree! If I am going to Estonia to have fun, I intend on enjoying myself!

The golden period of mongering in Tallinn is over. Those of us lucky enough to have experienced it now realise how good it really was! In many ways I am happy that Estonia's economy (particularly Tallinn) has developed so fast and has integrated in to the European economy as well as it has. It sucks as far as mongering goes though:)

Dear All,

There is still fun to be had here that will not break the bank, try and avoid the main strip / clip joints catering for deep pockets and tourists etc.

I found the usual local papers to be of help, you can get them a any news stand or usually lying around in restaurants cafes etc, with many direct links to escorts with photos and telephone numbers, their flats are mainly a five minute drive from the old town with an average 20 minute session costing around £20 - 30 GBP or 600 EEK.
You have also got the usual SW's around Viru street charging 1000 to 1500 EEK, these are really quite it or miss in terms of looks.

[url]www.hedone.ee[/url] for a nice 1 hour proffessional massage with handjob 66 EURO for 45 minutes, excellent service and in the heart of the old town.

Relax masaze just off old town square charges around 25 Euros for a 1 hour massage with oil and handjob finish, only two ladies working usually but again very good service.

[url]www.hot.ee[/url]..... 30 USD for 1 hour massage, sauna etc.

As their seems to be limited escort web sites for Tallinn I would reccomend the local newspapers for saving time and money.

[QUOTE=Starfish75]Dear All,

There is still fun to be had here that will not break the bank, try and avoid the main strip / clip joints catering for deep pockets and tourists etc.

I found the usual local papers to be of help, you can get them a any news stand or usually lying around in restaurants cafes etc, with many direct links to escorts with photos and telephone numbers, their flats are mainly a five minute drive from the old town with an average 20 minute session costing around £20 - 30 GBP or 600 EEK.
You have also got the usual SW's around Viru street charging 1000 to 1500 EEK, these are really quite it or miss in terms of looks.

[url]www.hedone.ee[/url] for a nice 1 hour proffessional massage with handjob 66 EURO for 45 minutes, excellent service and in the heart of the old town.

Relax masaze just off old town square charges around 25 Euros for a 1 hour massage with oil and handjob finish, only two ladies working usually but again very good service.

[url]www.hot.ee[/url]..... 30 USD for 1 hour massage, sauna etc.

As their seems to be limited escort web sites for Tallinn I would reccomend the local newspapers for saving time and money.[/QUOTE]Web sites

[url]http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=eng&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]
[url]http://www.erotictutvus.com/?action=view&cat_id=12[/url]
[url]http://adult.pri.ee/index.php?id=tutvus&pid=naine_meest[/url]
[url]http://sextutvus.com/?action=view&cat_id=2[/url]
[url]http://www.voodi.ee/index.php?page=24&action=show_date&type_id=3[/url]
[url]http://www.otsimind.com/?action=view&cat_id=22[/url]
[url]http://www.voodi.com/naine-otsib-meest.php?type_id=3&page=3&action=show_results[/url]
[url]http://www.foorum69.org/[/url]

Price level is EEK 400-800
Street girls ask for 1.500 (Many on drugs...)
Club-girls 1.500 +

Good hunting!

The picture is real, and Alisa was a friendly and sweet girl with a thin and very firm body. Pale skin on the picture, but has a tan now. Good experience and a recommended classy dame. She speaks good english as well.

1200eek for one time, outcall only. Alisa was the one who answered the phone, even though the [url=http://www.freewebs.com/tallinngirls/]Tallinn Girls[/url] website lists a few other independent girls as well. Perhaps if you want to contact some other girl, you'll get their phone number by asking.

I first sent an email to the provided Gmail address, but that was not answered in a few hours. So I recommend to call directly to +372 58 304 112, as the phone was answered by Alisa immeadiately. It took her 20 minutes to arrive by car to city center.

From website:

[quote]You can contact us my sending email (address at website, because cannot post them here) or calling +372 58 304 112!

We do not have a place, we can just come to your hotel or apartment.

Please let us know when you are coming and where you will be staying, you will get our phone number and we can agree on the details on phone.

Remember that we are real girls, not a club or escort service. When you will get our phone number, you are directly talking to one of us![/quote]

This is a crosspost of the thread I also made to [url=http://www.foorum69.org/viewthread.php?tid=4219&page=1#pid45724]Foorum69[/url]

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...Double Nickel,

If Thailand's not the absolute #1 place for action, it can't be far behind. Estonia wasn't a bad experience BTW, the women are smokin' HOT aren't they. I found myself just taking pictures of random girls in the town square and on the street, they were so beautiful. (I don't suppose you ate at a restaurant called Troika did you?)[/QUOTE]I was on a cruise as part of a group. When my ship docked at Talinn I went off by myself in the morning. I was looking for local information when a cabdriver hailed me (not the other way around). He took me around, showed me the sights, took me to a place to buy souvenirs for the folk back home. I finally ask him about "saunas with girls." He takes me out of Talinn proper saying the good places are outside as they try to keep the center "cleaned up" for tourists.

He takes me to a gated place in a residential area. I get checked out by tough looking characters and let in. I get to see the girls sitting around the lounge. I pick the one with big tits. We go to the sauna facilities downstairs and we both strip and she showers me off. Instead of quantity time in the sauna we head back upstairs to the bedroom. We have a nice suck and fuck session and I leave happy.

My taxidriver had been waiting in the sauna with girls/brothel. He takes me back outside the old city gate. He quotes me a very paltry fee and doesn't even hint for a tip, although I give him one.

I meet my group for lunch, not at the Troika, but at "Old Talinn(?)" It is a huge place near the city hall. We have a medieval meal upstairs. Later I'm on my own again. These hot babes outside a beauty salon ask if I want a massage. I can't resist. I get a nice legitimate massage. Not knowing the local customs I had stripped down naked. They seemed to get a bit of a giggle about that. On my way back I noticed a sex emporium, I don't remember the name, not far outside the old city walls. It looked like fun times could be had there too.

Double Nickle

My 3rd day in Tallinn. It's just like any western country. The girls don't look much different from American girls. I must say there seem to be many more girls than guys. Just check out the bus stops during the rush hours. Female-to-male ratio is 10:1. And many pretty ones.

But I have to say that I am not terribly attracted to the Estonian/Russian look. I feel almost zero urge to court women here.

I personally prefer the Swedish, Dutch and French girls. I find some German girls attractive.

I hate to say it, but Tallinn doesn't light a fire in me.

Hey Guys,

I am in Tallinn for the next few days. In case you'd like to have a beer together and perhaps monger, gimme a buzz. My number in Tallinn is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

After walking around today, I did not have any saliva left. Too much drooling. These babes are hot. Hope I bang a dozen or two before I leave. :)

Bart

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[QUOTE=FrenchLover]My 3rd day in Tallinn. It's just like any western country. The girls don't look much different from American girls. I must say there seem to be many more girls than guys. Just check out the bus stops during the rush hours. Female-to-male ratio is 10:1. And many pretty ones.

But I have to say that I am not terribly attracted to the Estonian/Russian look. I feel almost zero urge to court women here.

I personally prefer the Swedish, Dutch and French girls. I find some German girls attractive.

I hate to say it, but Tallinn doesn't light a fire in me.[/QUOTE]

American looking???

Wow that's a new one.

There aren't that many hot Dutch chicks, I don't know where you were but I didn't see many after 5 days in Amsterdam just over 3 weeks ago, so my memories are FRESH.

Swedish are Norwegian women with big tits, pretty simple as that. Also more dark-haired women in Sweden than what the media of Western Culture would lead you to believe, even still a TON OF BLONDS, its insane...

Yes the correct assessment of Germany is there far too many average to worst looking women and hardly any stunners, just a few.

I agree that Eastern Europeans have a particular look that's not for everybody, but if you find Anna Kournikova HOT, then you can find girls like her running around Eastern Europe, however you'll find more looking like Sveta from Russian Brides....

There only saving grace is they are mostly very thin... Most have NO ASS and small boobs. Large mamaries are not common in these women, I'm still blown away by the pic Essi posted on his thread, I still haven't seen a skinny EE hottie with titties that big...

Generally speaking, the Estonian Estonians are a bit grim compared to the Russian Estonian girls (who I think are lovely! ). Sadly, the Russian ones have largely moved away to the west as Estonians are very racist (revenge time! ) and giving the Russians, even if they were born there, a hard time. This is very true, I have seen it many times for myself.

The talent is leaving Estonia. In every sense!

Very sad. The Soviets were just as evil to the Russians as they ever were to the Estonians.

Hey People,

Anyone who know where to get in contact with girls intessted in latex, fetishes etc in Tallin?

On my short tour of the Baltics & SPB, I'll be spending 2 nights in Tallinn (Sep 3-Sep 4). I have 2 days to find at least 1 P4P girl who isn't opposed to pictures - fully dressed is fine, but she must show her face.

If anyone can recommend an escort or brothel girl who isn't picture shy, please let me know. No old hags! DFK and BBBJ are preferable, but optional, for the lucky girl to put Estonia on the map. :)

Loso

Nobody answered my question, but I still managed to put Estonia on the map. After a few of her colleagues turned me down, Karina agreed to pictures:

[url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/2336[/url]

After my confirmed SPB apartment reservations were cancelled by SMS yesterday, I wasted the whole day trying to secure new reservations. But at the end of the day, I still managed to meet a SW on Viru St who wasn't picture-shy either. :)

Details when I get back home.

Loso

I'm a long time reader of this forum and another forum, but I have very little experience on this matter. Beside from one time (HJ) in San Francisco strip joint, I have never paid for sex. I have been curious about this phenomena for a long time, but have never had the chance to do this. I don't want to do this at home, too risky!

Anyway, I had the chance recently to travel to Tallinn for buisness for 5 days. This was my chance and I read all the recently posts on this forum and another forum and escort pages before I travel. I was prepared, so I thought.

I arrived on a Sunday at about 19:00. I have been reading about Maria [url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/1325[/url]. She came about an hour later and I had a greate experience. My first paid sex (1200 EEK/hour/pop). Maria was sweet and nice, recommended. Although, in retrospective this was a mistake. I tell you why later. I spent the rest of the evening walking around Tallinn and locating the stripclubs. A good day.

Monday, I start the evening with an erotic soap massage at the Hedone [url]http: //hedone. Ee/hedone/[/url] as suggested on this forum. Guys, I recommend this experience. First you get a shower, then she washes you with warm water and soap. You are totally nude and she washes everywhere. Then shower again while she clean up the massasge bench. Then the oil massasge, which was very nice. And the finalé, a HJ with a lot of oil. I came so hard, I nearly tasted my own spun! 1500 EEK for an hour.

After yesterdays great experience and now the massage, I got hungry for more. I though I try the X-club. It was around 21:30. I told you I was a rookie didn't I? This was a big mistake. 200 EEK to get in and I found the place empty! Only one girl was working cause it is a slow night and too early. The girl offered to dance for me. It was uninspiring, long dance before taking top off and getting my tip and then disappears. She came back and offered me a private show. I said no. Strike one.

I wasnt satisfied, so I got in a taxi and asked the driver for "sauna with girls". I told him I have heard of Club Morgan and Hotel Max. He said that they are both closed long time ago. I don't know if this is true. He took me to Terde club. This is the old Mikado! Terde is the streetname. We went in both and I was allowed to look inside before paying entrance fee. There were only two girls working and they were wearing there winter coats, inside! I told the taxi driver that I didn't fancy this and he took me to another place. Strike two.

He took me to a place called Club 8. 200 EEK and 50EEK for jacket. There were a few girls and some patrons. I saw a girl that I fancied right away, the other were either old/fat or didn't bother approching me. I sat down and had a coke. And then the girl I fancied start dancing by the dancing poll in the middle of the room. She had great big natural tits that I love. She came over to me and ask for a tip (min 100EEK). I talk with her later and found out that she only dances! Oh no. I called the taxi and he took me home. Strike three.

Now, about my mistake with Maria. I should have waited untill a weekday instead of during the weekend. If I have tried X-club and the sauna on a Sunday, it would have been better I guess.

Tuesday, I decide to call Regina [url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/1194[/url]. She has biiig boobs and I was curious. 1300 EEK and she was a little big. The sex was a bit difficult, but I got to play with two huge boobs. All in all, it was OK.

Wensday, I thought I tried something else and went to a casino. Again, I was the only one! 15 min and 500EEK later I was out and decide that this was a waste of money;.) I went to SOHO thinking that this place should be packed, but no. There were alot of girls though, but only me and a few other guests. The price was high and I think this would also be a waste of money. 10 min and I was out and heading to my hotel to call an escort. To my horror, none of the telehone nos of the girls I liked were working. No action for me.

Thursday, last night. I called Sanna [url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/Cathy2[/url]. Disapponting! She smells of smoke and wasnt friendly. But she did give good head. 1100 EEK/hour.

The advise is to spend the weekends at clubs or saunas and save the escort for slow nights like weekdays.

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Hi,

It was vary long time sins i was in Tallinn. Do any one know if Club Lily still in business?

club lilly is closed now

Hi guys!

Is everything closed in Tallinn these days?

What's the rationale behind this and where are all the young girls gone?

[b][color=green][size=4]Arriving...[/size][/color][/b]

My main destination for this trip was St. Petersburg. But flights to Tallinn were cheaper and spending a couple of nights in Estonia would allow me to add another country to my portfolio.

After a short and uneventful flight, I took the airport bus into town. I settled into my cozy hotel room, rested up and started calling escorts...

[b][color=green][size=4]Maria & Alina[/size][/color][/b]

[b][color=blue][size=3]Maria[/size][/color][/b]

Maria was top of my list. Few Tallinn escorts show their face on the Internet. Maria looked pretty, her rates were reasonable and she had favorable reviews.

[url]http://www.tallinn-escorts.com/mariaescort.html[/url]

[url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/1325[/url]

Her rate seems to have gone up from 70 EUR at the time of my visit to 90 EUR for 1 hour these days.

I was a little early when I first called her, but was able to talk to Maria at the second attempt. Her voice sounded really sweet as she assured me she loved French kissing. But Maria only gives CBJs and she wasn’t available until 8 PM. I texted her my room number and took a nap while waiting for my date...

When I heard a knock on my door, the live platinum blonde version of the Internet pictures was waiting in the corridor. Petite Maria had a better figure than her Internet stats suggested and seemed to be a total sweetie. But even though she shows her face on the Internet, she categorically refused to let me take any pictures. I had to let her go...

[b][color=blue][size=3]Alina[/size][/color][/b]

Between my first & second call to Maria, I’d dialed Alina’s digits. She didn’t answer, but sent me an SMS later. By then, I’d already agreed to see her friend Maria, but I arranged to meet Alina at 4 PM the following day.

[url]http://www.tallinn-escorts.com/alinaescort.html[/url]

After Maria refused to have her pretty face photographed, I called Alina again. She was picture-shy as well...

[b][color=green][size=4]Tori[/size][/color][/b]

When I called Tori, she readily admitted that the Internet pictures weren’t hers. She did seem confident about her looks, though. She volunteered to come to my room and I could send her back without a penny if I wasn’t instantly in lust.

When I asked her if I could take pictures... Tori hung up on me. She called me back later, but I’m still unsure whether Tori would have been a willing model, as her English was too limited. She seemed desperate to come and show me her wares, but I’d already set up a date with another girl...

BTW, Tori no longer appears on Secretary Academy. Her fee was 120 EUR for an hour. The model’s picture that caused me to give her a call has been attached.

[b][color=green][size=4]Karina[/size][/color][/b]

I couldn’t get through to Karina at first, but she called me back. At 150 EUR, this Russian minx was a damn expensive piece of ass. But Cat, as she calls herself these days, immediately agreed to pictures. That got her the gig...

[url]http://www.sexwork.net/girl/2336[/url]

Once I’d snapped a few pictures of Karina, we sat down on the bed and slowly started kissing. Our kisses grew more and more passionate and we were soon helping each other undress. After fooling around in the shower, my tongue explored Karina’s other pair of lips. She got soaking wet, as she was pressing her clit and rubbing her pussy against my tongue. But even though Karina seemed horny as hell, she’d only give me a CBJ.

Karina was playing with her clit as she was slowly grinding my dick. Her moans grew louder as I shook her ass all about. We were constantly kissing as we went through various positions until I finally exploded. Karina loves to fuck and provided a perfect GFE.

Karina cost me a small fortune, but I achieved my objective... and had a great time! :)

Loso

[b][color=green][size=4]Reservation Cancelled![/size][/color][/b]

Late on my first night in Tallinn, I received devastating news by SMS. My confirmed St. Petersburg apartment reservation was cancelled. I was traveling to Russia the next day. I had 9 porn shoots scheduled. And I didn’t have a place to stay! :mad:

Securing alternative accommodation at short notice wasn’t obvious. I spent hours and hours on the Internet and on the phone before finding an appropriate apartment. By the time I was ready to go out, it was 10 PM already.

[b][color=green][size=4]Streetwalkers[/size][/color][/b]

[b][color=blue][size=3]Viru Street[/size][/color][/b]

After a quick dinner at McDonald’s, I walked along Viru Street, looking for streetwalker action. A tall blonde, accompanied by her mother, seemed to be checking me out. She was past her sell-by-date.

[b][color=blue][size=3]Yevgeniya[/size][/color][/b]

Just as I was about to turn back, I was approached by Yevgeniya. She was too chubby for my taste, so I wasn’t really interested. Out of curiosity, I subjected her to a little questionnaire anyway. French kissing? OK. BBBJ? OK. Pictures? OK, but no nudes. Price? 1000 EEK. Yevgeniya seemed affectionate and eager to please. We ended up walking to my hotel...

After showering together, Yevgeniya went to work. She sucked on my nipples and gave me a cat bath before administering the most amazing BBBJ. Boy, could this girl suck! I could easily have unloaded in her mouth, but I wanted to fuck her as well.

Yevgeniya wouldn’t sit on my dick and made me do all the work. I pounded her missionary. I drilled her doggy style. But Yevgeniya’s body was full of bumps and bruises, which was a real turn-off. The fact that she kept checking my watch as I was fucking her wasn’t exactly helpful either. When I gave up and asked for a BBBJCIM, my time was up. WTF?

[b][color=blue][size=3]Fags![/size][/color][/b]

Since Yevgeniya finished my pack of cigarettes, I needed to go out and buy some smokes at 1.30 AM. When I spotted a couple of streetwalkers, I approached them. Since they were my age, I had no interest in their bodies. I just wanted to buy their pack of cigarettes. They weren’t for sale! :p

I aimlessly wandered around the deserted streets of Tallinn until I stumbled upon a kiosk that was open 24/7. Saved! :) After a few shots of nicotine and a couple of hours of sleep, I’d be catching the bus to St. Petersburg.

Loso

[b][color=green][size=4]getting there[/size][/color][/b]

[b][color=blue][size=3]estonian air[/size][/color][/b]

i flew from brussels to tallinn on estonian air. i made the reservation on their internet site. once you’ve selected your destination, the site shows the flight dates in different colors, according to the fare levels – very convenient!

[url]http://www.estonian-air.ee/index.php?lang=eng[/url]

estonian air doesn’t use e-tickets yet. my paper ticket was sent to me through regular mail at no extra cost.

the one way ticket cost me:

air fare: 1395 eek
airport fees: 368 eek
surcharge: 16 eek
[b]total: 1779 eek[/b]

the luggage allowance is 20 kg in economy. my luggage was 1 kg overweight. no problem!

[b][color=blue][size=3]airport bus[/size][/color][/b]

i bought a ticket for the airport bus at the kiosk in the airport (10 eek). buses are frequent and will take you to the centre of town.

i wasn’t sure where to get off the bus, so i stepped out when i noticed plenty of hotels. once i switched my phone on, the built-in gps system showed me how to walk to my hotel. the wonders of technology!

[b][color=green][size=4]accommodation[/size][/color][/b]

[b][color=blue][size=3]red group apartments[/size][/color][/b]

when i enquired about an apartment from red group apartments, they replied promptly. but their answer stated: “all our apartments are non-smoking”. no fucking way!

[url]http://www.redgroup.ee/tallinn-apartments[/url]

[b][color=blue][size=3]non-smoking hotels[/size][/color][/b]

when i checked out hotel options on booking.com, i discovered that many tallinn hotels exclusively feature non-smoking rooms as well!

[url]http://www.booking.com[/url]

[b][color=blue][size=3]domina inn city[/size][/color][/b]

i finally made reservations at domina inn city, which offered substantial discounts with “advance purchase rates”. and, of course, they had smoking rooms. :)

[url]http://www.dominahotels.com/eng/tallinn_hotel_estonia_domina_inn_city[/url]

i paid 59 eur/night through booking.com, including taxes and a buffet breakfast. the room was smallish, but nice and i loved the fellini poster on the wall.

one thing i didn’t appreciate is that both booking.com and the hotel website mention that wifi access is available free of charge in all rooms. in fact, they only offered high speed cable internet access... at 9 eur/day.

the hotel is perfectly girl-friendly. from the main entrance, the lift is straight ahead, while reception is way off on the left. the escorts could come straight to my room and walking in with a girl was no problem either.

loso

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Timing[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

I was in Tallinn:

September 3 - September 4 (2 nights)

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Statistics[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

During my 2-day stay in Tallinn, I had:

ST: 2
Girls: 2

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Escorts[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[B][COLOR=blue][SIZE=3]Escort Sites[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Adult Pri[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.adult.pri.ee/index.php?id=tutvus&pid=naine_meest[/url]

Only in Estonian. No pictures. You need to send an SMS to get a girl’s phone number. Useless!

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Erotic Tutvus[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.erotictutvus.com[/url]

Only in Estonian. Picture available for some girls, but few show their face. Most ads include a phone number.

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Secretary Academy[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.sexwork.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?lang_so=eng&land=EST&city=Tallinn[/url]

This site is in English and features pictures of most escorts, though few of them show their face. Apart from the girls’ vital statistics, the site contains information about services offered & languages spoken and some girls’ ads also mention their rates.

At the time of my visit, the girls’ phone numbers were mentioned on the site. These days, you have to pay for the girls’ contact info! :mad: 2.5 EUR per number with a minimum of 10 numbers. Ridiculous!

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Sex Tutvus[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.sextutvus.com[/url]

Only in Estonian. Picture available for some girls, but few show their face. Most ads include a phone number.

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Tallinn Escorts[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.tallinn-escorts.com/tallinnescorts.html[/url]

This site is in English, but only features a handful of girls. Phone numbers and rates are mentioned for each girl, as well as vital statistics, languages spoken and services offered. The pictures are real, but most girls are too shy to show their face.

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Voodi.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.voodi.com/naine-otsib-meest.php?type_id=3&page=3&action=show_results[/url]

Only in Estonian. Most ads contain phone numbers. You need to send an SMS to see the pictures.

[B][COLOR=purple][SIZE=2]Voodi.ee[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[url]http://www.voodi.ee/index.php?page=24&action=show_date&type_id=3[/url]

Only in Estonian. Most ads contain phone numbers. As usual, few girls show their face.

[B][COLOR=blue][SIZE=3]Local vs. Foreign Numbers[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

Since I was only in Tallinn for 2 days, I didn’t bother to get a local SIM card. I was roaming on my Belgian number. In retrospect, that may have been a smart move. Karina (Cat) told me she didn’t even answer calls from local numbers!

If you do get a local SIM card and try to get in touch with a girl catering to the foreign market and advertizing on the English sites (Secretary Academy & Tallinn Escorts), don’t be surprised if she won’t answer your calls. In that case, I suggest you send the girl an SMS telling her you’re a foreigner.

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Other P4P Options[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

From what I’ve read, most of the brothels in Tallinn have been closed. Visiting a strip club will set you back a small fortune and many of the girls are not available for take-out. Finally, there are streetwalkers along Viru Street, but the selection is very limited and the quality is low.

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Final Words[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

Walking around Tallinn, I spotted plenty of babes. Estonian girls are hot! But Estonia is developing fast and few Estonian beauties will resort to P4P, especially in their home country.

P4P options are limited. Prices are high. Tallinn is not a P4P destination!

Loso

Hi,

Anyone know if Olympia Hotel is girl friendly place?

Thnx in advance

[QUOTE=Vompat]Hi,

Anyone know if Olympia Hotel is girl friendly place?

Thnx in advance[/QUOTE]Its no problem to bring girls to Olympia hotel but they must register in the reception if they come after 22:00

One advice to all of you who call for escorts in Tallinn is to always tell the girl that you will not take her and not pay for the taxi if its not her on the pictures in the advertisement.

Its so much ad´s with fake model pictures now so please be aware.

Tallinn was great a few years ago, but now it is utterly the worst place.

Too expensive, boring and grey.

The prettiest girls in the world - trouble is, they don´t live there any more!

Thanx Sexxy for the info and for S.M. of course I will give it a try since I have to go there anyway.

Bareback sex

Try some streetgirls because some of them do it for 200EEK extra, but I will not do it due to the high risk of HIV/AIDS in Estonia.

I used early May to try out two Tallinn incall-chicks.

You can find the best assortment of fresh meat on [url]http://www.sextutvus.com/[/url]

Though, most of the avertisements are in Estonian, all the girls turn out to speak sufficient English on phone. You therefore only need a basic vocabulary to skim over the ads:

naine otsib meest = girl offers sex to men
suuseks = oral
seks = sex
suure rinnaga = big breasts
privatne koht = incall / brothel

Call the girl, if she picks the phone she's available immediately - let her send you the street and house number to your mobile phone (Tallinn street names are tricky to foreigners). When you arrive there, call again and she tells you the apartment number which you have to enter at the door (all have intercom)

I started on May 1st: The girl calls herself snezana (Snow White) sreet: Narva mnt. 10/17 +372 55555231- she opened the door in an incredible flower dress which she must have inherited from her grandmother, but sh didn't wear it long. We went into a tiny room in her apartment (apparently she was alone there) and after I had denied the shower and put 800 EEK on her night table, we started. She put of her ugly dress and I pulled down her G-string. She is small but in good shape with tapered but acceptable tits. She rolled of a condome on my penis and started to suck while she had one hand on my balls and used the other one to rub my prick. I put two fingers into her **** and tickled her clit which triggered and immediate splash of juice running down her legs. I tried to put her into 69 position but know she became a little rude so I decided to fuck her straight from behind and came hard within seconds - after she had gently pulled of the condome I laid on the bed and received a good massage - A nice and affordable medium sexy girl.

Three days later I called Dina +372 55986527 street: Endla 94/1 - 1/2 hour 500 EEK. The girl who opened the door had little in common with the girl on the picture. When I entered the apartment, another woman showed up (rather old and unattractive). I thought it was a female pimp, but the girl from the door asked me whichone of them I wanted - obviously I took the first.

The room was big and quiet with a small bed. When the girl had undressed, I saw that her belly was a little curved, but she wasn't pregnant only to little work-out. Anyway, she was 180cm tall, had good bell-shaped breasts and a nice teenage face (she told me she was 22). I kneed on the bed and she crawled to my lap, rolled up the condome and sucked me smoothly, doing a good job with her tongue (She had denied BBBJ). I had to stop her, not to come premature. I got on my back and she mounted, but she turned out too big and heavy for me, so I told her to get off and bend down on the bed. With her butt cheeks between my hands I banged her for a while than made her lay on the stomach and continued penetration - she even told me that she liked that position and it seemed true, judging from the juice between her legs. Finally, I took the missionary position and shagged her for some 15 minutes, she had a smiling face all time (little girl in candy store) and looked me straight into the eyes. At one point she trembled and stiffened for a second (I didn't ask whether she had an orgasm, but she looked happy).

When I came, she pet my thighs and allowed me to remain inside her for a short moment afterwards.

- A nice girl (medium pretty) who provides service with a natural feeling. Very good price.

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